[Users] Can't login to my GMail IMAP acct

[sgeneris at comcast.net]

Hi, Richard,

I went over the CM Oauth2 FAQ and the Google instructions for
getting an ID. These are WAY TOO technical and no end-users should
be exposed to them. Much of the terminology and concepts I don't
even understand and I cannot decide what to choose.  GMail API
activation seems different than in the instructions and it's not 
even clear that the API I found is the one that I am supposed
to activate. The pages you and I see are different. 

I wonder if a lot has to do with you and most users running Linux and
its browsers and I running Windows and its browser -- 
shouldn't, but hey, what do I know. Perhaps between you
and Jonathan can figure things out.

Of course, most of the blame goes to
Google (typical!), but the fact is that I also use another
email program ***authored and maintained by one person***
and it automated the OAuth2 configuration and made it
almost painless. There are so many techies here -- why
not do the same? We don't want to have to drop CM.

I will try to document the details of what happens when
I follow the instructions, but I suspect I won't go very far.

Jonathan, anybody who can help, pls do.

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard <lists-claws at listmail.innovate.net>
To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2022 18:39:47 +0000
Subject: Re: [Users] Can't login to my GMail IMAP acct

> I'm not certain what you're not doing, but I just set OAuth2 up
> successfully on another of my google accounts. For me that screen
> showed 30+ options, and gmail was among them. [you have to enable the
> gmail api on an earlier "enable api and services" screen.]
> 
> You might do better setting up an app-password while you work through
> OAuth2.
> 
> 
> [3rd request -- do not include my direct address in replies
> (otherwise future messages will go to /dev/null).]
> 
> ------------ Original Message ------------
> > Date: Wednesday, June 08, 2022 10:43:35 -0700
> > From: sgeneris at comcast.net
> >
> > Sorry, but you must see a different page than I -- the FAQ sent me
> > here:
> > 
> > https://console.cloud.google.com/apis/credentials/consent/edit;newA
> > ppInternalUser=false?project=dbdebunk-352716&supportedpurview=proje
> > ct
> > 
> > Per attached screenshot there is no scrolling. There are back and
> > forward arrows and when I use the forward arrow all the way through
> > the 25 options in the list, none is about GMail.
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Richard 
> > Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2022 17:35:34 +0000
> > 
> >> Because you aren't scrolling down to see all the options. I just
> >> confirmed that it's (still) there.
> >> 
> >>   > None of these options are listed for me to check
> >> 
> >> 
> >> {do not include my direct address in replies.]
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ------------ Original Message ------------
> >> > Date: Wednesday, June 08, 2022 10:16:56 -0700
> >> > From: sgeneris at comcast.net
> >> > 
> >> > Thank you.
> >> > 
> >> > I tried to follow the Oauth instructions, but there are
> >> > discrepancies.
> >> > 
> >> > For example, on the scopes page there are no entries like these:
> >> > 
> >> >  "Select (check the box) this entry: "Gmail API,
> >> > https://mail.google.com/, Read, compose, send and
> >> > permanently delete all your email from Gmail"
> >> > 
> >> > None of these options are listed for me to check -- nothing about
> >> > GMail -- only Cloud, BigQuery and such.
> >> > 
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: Richard <lists-claws at listmail.innovate.net>
> >> > Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2022 16:47:48 +0000
> >> > 
> >> >> See the OAuth2 section of the claws-mail faq:
> >> >> 
> >> >>   <https://claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Main_Page>
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> [please do not include my direct address in replies.]
> >> >> 
> >> >> ------------ Original Message ------------
> >> >> > Date: Wednesday, June 08, 2022 09:32:35 -0700
> >> >> > From: sgeneris at comcast.net
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Thanks, Richard.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > I would like to set up Oauth2 but I have no idea how.
> >> >> > I use CM Windows version and I am an end user, no developer.
> >> >> > Can you point me to instructions how to do this in CM?
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> > From: Richard 
> >> >> > Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2022 16:27:22 +0000
> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> Or, you can also set up, and configure claws to use, an "app
> >> >> >> password"
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >>   <https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833?hl=en>
> >> >> >>   
> >> >> >> You just can no longer use your google site-wide password
> >> >> >> with 3rd party applications. 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> ------------ Original Message ------------
> >> >> >> > Date: Wednesday, June 08, 2022 09:21:52 -0700
> >> >> >> > From: sgeneris at comcast.net
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > I am using Windows and am an end-user not a developer.
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> >> > From: Michael Rasmussen 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 09:01:14 -0700
> >> >> >> >> sgeneris at comcast.net wrote:
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> > What the hell is going on?
> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> You are using plain login and not oauth.
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> ------------ End Original Message ------------
> >> >> 
> >> ------------ End Original Message ------------
> 
> ------------ End Original Message ------------
> 
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