[Users] Some questions from new/old claws user

Brian Morrison bdm at fenrir.org.uk
Tue Dec 11 17:30:30 CET 2018

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 15:24:25 +0000
John Long <codeblue at inbox.lv> wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 09:41:51 -0500
> Jim Seymour <jseymour at LinxNet.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:26:52 +0000
> > John Long <codeblue at inbox.lv> wrote:
> >   
> > > 
> > > I am more lost than before. I am sorry for not understanding, but it
> > > feels like you know something but you are not saying it.    
> > 
> > I really don't see how they could have been more clear.  
> They could have been more clear by pointing out exactly where there is
> a tag in the raw message text I posted to the list.

There is nothing in that message that appears to be a tag or Tag:
header. I don't know where this came from but I made a couple of
suggestions based on your comments about the $an and $encrypted
strings you mentioned. 

> > > Are you saying that you see nothing in the raw message that has
> > > anything to do with tags?    
> > 
> > What they're saying is there's nothing in the official claws-mail
> > source that would inject those tags.  
> 1. It is not certain I'm running the official claws-mail source, I'm
> using the Fedora 28 package.

I use my own locally built git version under Fedora <current-release> 64
bit, it uses the source code from the Claws-Mail git repository.
It has no additional code other than a couple of things to keep the
fancy plugin working that actually affect Fedora, not Claws-Mail

> 2. There are bugs in code all the time. If claws-mail never had any
> bugs, I would be inclined to trust that kind of statement.

Claws has tagging code, it wouldn't display a tag if there wasn't
something to display but it's clearly not within Claws itself.

> 3. Since nobody has pointed to a problem in the raw message, it
> suggests there is a bug in the copy of claws-mail I'm running. If
> somebody did point out the problem in the message, it could help
> resolving the issue.

There is *nothing* in the message that includes or creates the content
of the tag you describe. However we don't know exactly how your mail is
processed either with your ISP, mail provider, IMAP host or on your
local machine. I suspect the involvement of PHP and/or openSIPS.

> > > And if so, doesn't that mean there is some sort of bug in the copy
> > > of claws I'm running?    
> > 
> > Maybe there is, but the devs of the official source can hardly be
> > expected to know what, or how it got there.  
> But they could point out the part of the raw message text that contains
> the tag so we could have something to go on. Simply repeating "the code
> doesn't do that" is not helpful in resolving the issue.

As I have said several times, the raw message has nothing that appears
to be any kind of tag nor anything that is the string you describe.

To my mind something else is changing the message that Claws has stored
on disk, as I said above the $an and $encrypted strings come up in
searches for openSIPS and also some PHP scripts that appear to be used
in mail handling by some providers.

Do you have any global processing rules?


Brian Morrison

                "I am not young enough to know everything"
                                                          Oscar Wilde

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