[Users] Surprising actions behavior

Shai Berger shai at platonix.com
Tue Dec 26 00:17:00 CET 2017

Hi all, and merry Christmas to those who celebrate,

I now see all of the below in 3.16.0. They're a little annoying. Any
comments? Pointers into the source?


On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 02:01:08 +0200
Shai Berger <shai at platonix.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> I see some behaviors around actions, which I find surprising. I looked
> for settings to fix these, but couldn't find them, and I want to ask
> for your opinion before opening tickets and/or trying to fix them.
> The version is 3.15.1 on Debian Testing, I compiled it myself in order
> to include the Fancy plugin but other than that it's the released
> version.
> In no particular order, here they are:
> 1) There seems to be no logging of actions available. I configured
> some action, and it didn't do what I expected, and I had to debug by
> guessing.
> 2) "stop" is available as a filter-action when configuring Actions. It
> really makes sense only in filters. I'm not sure if putting it in the
> end of a list of actions causes any problems, because of no logging.
> 3) I defined a mark-as-spam action using a filter-action, to do the
> following:
> - Execute a command (train my Bayesian filter that it's spam)
> - Mark the message read
> - Mark the message as spam
> - Move the message to the junk folder
> This looked like it did the first three, but failed to move the
> message to the junk folder. At first, there was a "stop" in the end
> (because the action was originally translated from a KMail filter), I
> removed it and it didn't change anything. Then I tried to promote the
> "move" operation so it ran earlier in the sequence.
> 3a) In the filter-action editor, I could move it wherever I liked, but
> when I pressed OK, it wouldn't move before the mark_as_read.
> 3b) So I had the actions ordered as "execute, mark_as_read, move,
> mark_as_spam" -- and now the messages are moved, but not marked as
> spam. Is the filter-action in Actions limited to 3 actions only?
> 4) As noted, the action above includes a "move" operation, which means
> that when it ends, the previously-selected message is no longer in the
> active folder. I'd expect the next or previous message in the list to
> be selected, like what happens when a message is deleted; but instead,
> the selection jumped to the first unread message in the folder. In
> case this matters, my preference for "selection when entering a new
> folder" is "last message opened; none".
> Is any of the above expected behavior? Assuming not, are there easy
> ways to fix, or work around them?
> Thanks, and sorry for the length,
> Shai.
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