[Users] claws-mail does not remember password even though the "Remember with password manager" option is checked

[Dustin Miller]

On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 20:26:46 -0600
lmfrm <lmfrm at nanogroup.xyz> wrote:

> No response from the Mint forum. This claws mailing list was my last
> hope.
> 
> I removed gnome-keyring and it did not stop the behavior.
> 
DM: I am not sure if gnome-keyring necessarily controls this behavior
or whether it's just a program that stores and handles whatever the
broader system tells it to.
> 
> Gpg-agent is essential ...
> 
> If that is causing this behavior there's nothing I can do except try
> to contact gnupg, ...
> 
> If Claws did not have an explicit dependency on other packages such as
> keyrings or gnupg then it should not consult them for passwords or
> keys.
> 
DM: Since you've installed Claws in the broader system, it's possible
that Claws is not the one consulting them. It could be that it is
simply trying to do something, but the overall system is configured in
such a way that that action triggers the system (or some other program)
to give you the window you're seeing. (For example, sometimes when I
open my browser to go to a website, the system (not the browser) pops up
a window requesting me to enter a password in order to access the
network.

DM: My guess is that you'll be 'spinning your wheels' a bit on this
until you figure out what is actually causing the behavior you don't
want. Perhaps your system has logs that you could check for that? You
could try running Claws from the command-line in order to see output in
the terminal, in case that helps. You could do the same and add the
'--debug' option for possibly more output. I think it will be hard for
someone else to figure out what's causing the issue unless they have
access to your system or you're able to provide more detailed info.
HTH, ---Dustin
> 
> 
> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 07:40:01 +0600
> Dustin Miller <dustbiz at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > 
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> > On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 15:53:33 -0600
> > lmfrm <lmfrm at nanogroup.xyz> wrote:
> >   
> > > "Remember with password manager" is not from Claws Mail. This
> > > sentence appears nowhere in Claws Mail. So whatever is asking to
> > > remember your password is not Claws Mail."
> > >   
> > DM: I use Linux Mint as well, and I'm guessing this is related to
> > gnome-keyring or something similar that is system-wide and is meant
> > to work as a built-in password manager storage area. I don't really
> > use anything like that, so I don't know much about it, other than
> > that sometimes (often) on my system's first attempt (of a session)
> > to access the network / internet (by whatever program) I have to
> > enter the password that it 'forced' me to create. I think there are
> > ways to disable it, but I haven't found any that are 'easy' and/or
> > seemed 'secure', so I just put up with it.  
> > > 
> > > "Claws Mail is not a gnome program and has nothing to do with
> > > gnome-keyring...Your gpg-agent settings will control your
> > > interaction with gpg on your system, not specifically in Claws
> > > Mail."
> > > 
> > > Well something is causing Claws to use gnome-keyring and/or
> > > gpg-agent when it's installed. I don't know enough about how my
> > > system works under the hood to comment further on that aspect. All
> > > I see is what's going on on the surface.
> > >   
> > DM: I would guess you should focus on finding out what is causing
> > what. It's possible that this is not a Claws issue, so you might
> > find better help / advice elsewhere. ---Dustin
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