[Users] Claws Mail 3.13.2 Unleashed!!

blind Pete peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au
Tue Feb 2 07:40:30 CET 2016

On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 07:30:55 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 16:45:28 +1100, blind Pete wrote:
> >On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 11:25:48 +0000
> >Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> 19th January 2016                                   Claws Mail
> >> 3.13.2  
> >[snip]
> >
> >Is there a standard procedure to get current releases into 
> >the distribution that I happen to be using?  Is it normal 
> >for developers to send mail to all of the big distributions, 
> >or to expect them to browse your web site?  I could probably 
> >compile a copy for myself, but that would not help the 
> >community as a whole.  Are these things highly automated 
> >or always a PITA?  
> The package maintainers follow the development. You need to read the
> policy of your distro. Most distros are release model distros, IOW
> they freeze the versions of the software and only will provide
> security related upgrades. New software is only provided by the next
> release. Some distros provide long term support releases, so the user
> can rely on a work-flow that will not change within the release for
> several years, e.g. to avoid the need to train employees to use new
> software.
> Other distros are rolling releases, they provide the latest software
> versions, IOW they follow upstream.
> Since you're using an Ubuntu flavour you can follow the
> Ubuntu development by the Debian tracker.
> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/claws-mail
> The Ubuntu policy is, that there will be no upgrades within a release.
> "Support length
>     Regular releases are supported for 9 months.
>     Long term support (LTS) releases are for 5 years." -
>     https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
> Within the support time a release will stay with a version of clwas.
> Claws will not be upgraded to the recent version.

That is the one that is relevant to me.  

Does the CM team release security patches for "old" releases like 3.12
or even 3.11?  I've just realized that I don't remember seeing any
mention of them recently.  

Is there an official CM numbering scheme, and what does it mean?  
First number, major release - incompatible with previous ones?
Second number, feature enhancement?   
Third number, bug fix - not security related?
Fourth number, Security fix?  

Is there just a single development tree with security fixes triggering
a release and selection of a suitable number?  

It seems that all CM releases are security releases.  

> Rolling releases usually aren't user-friendly,
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux#User_centrality .
> Maintaining a rolling release requires much more work, than building a
> claws package (or claws packages, assumed you prefer to split claws
> into several packages) for Ubuntu.
> I'm using Arch and Ubuntu, building from git for Wily doesn't take
> much time.
> [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ sudo systemd-nspawn -qD /mnt/moonstudio
> [root at moonstudio ~]# lsb_release -dc
> Description:	Ubuntu 15.10
> Codename:	wily
> [root at moonstudio ~]# dpkg -l claws-mail-git|grep ii
> ii  claws-mail-git 3.13.2-1-geb0880-1 amd64        A GTK+ based
> e-mail client - git checkout

That is probably what I should be doing, but if I can convince someone
else to do it that would suit me better.  The best that I am likely to
achieve is get a more current version on Ubuntu, or maybe a PPA.  

> If you consider building claws from git as annoying work, you wont be
> happy using Arch Linux and unlikely any other rolling release. You
> should get used to that the distro of your choice doesn't follow
> upstream.

I'm on a long term release distribution because I want to spend more
time using my computer rather than playing with it.  


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