[Users] Switching from Thunderbird to claws-mail.
Rolf Turner
r.turner at auckland.ac.nz
Wed Aug 12 06:59:46 CEST 2020
Thanks yet again. I have *almost* made up my mind to try claws-mail!!!
cheers,
Rolf
On 12/08/20 4:49 pm, Lawrence London wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 7:26 PM Rolf Turner <r.turner at auckland.ac.nz
> <mailto:r.turner at auckland.ac.nz>> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for taking the time to answer me. Sorry for being slow to
> respond. I've been preoccupied with some other things.
>
> Please see in-line below.
>
> On 11/08/20 2:28 pm, Lawrence London wrote:
>
> > 1. Will claws-mail allow me to get away from the flakiness I am
> > currently experiencing with Thunderbird?
>
> >
> > Yes.
>
> Very good news indeed.
>
>
> Claw is a must have (with emphasis). I used all Mozilla's email
> products including Thunderbird.
> As I upgraded to new versions of TBird, wanting to keep the folder
> systems from previous versions,
> I ended up with a rather cumbersome installation but it served my needs,
> I had all my folders and messages
> for many years. I was backing up messages in batches as text files,
> organized by topic. I also uploaded the folder files (Unix mailbox
> format) to my Linux shell account
> at the site where I have Mailman lists and websites. I then ran Mhonarc
> or Hypermail on them to create webarchives for my friends to browse.
> They really liked that.
> Sp TBird was really useful....until I needed to reinstall it on a new
> computer and it blew off my folder system. That is when I switched to
> Claws. I am pretty sure Claws folder files are Unix mailbox format and
> I can use them as I did TBirds.
>
> >
> >
> > 2. Does claws-mail have message filters, at least somewhat
> > analogous to
> > those provided by Thunderbird?
> >
> > I think it does but I have not looked for them yet.
>
> Others have said that it has such filters.
>
> I read that and yes it is probably robust.
>
> >
> > 3. How easy (or difficult) will it be for me to import my
> elaborate
> > tree of saved message folders from Thunderbird into claws-mail?
> > Impossible? Possible but gruellingly arduous? Piece of cake
> (said he,
> > optimistically)? Please note that since I have an enormous
> number of
> > saved emails to which I'd like to retain access, I would need
> to import
> > them in a fairly automated manner, and not in a kludgy one-by-one
> > manner.
> >
> >
> > 1) just guessing about this one
> > Get a Gmail account then import the feed to your account you
> currently
> > use Thunderbird for.
>
> I'm sorry to be a thicko, but I don't understand this. Specifically I
> don't understand what "import the feed" means.
>
> Use imap and the mail server login for your current email feed and it
> will pick that up and add it to your Gmail folders (labels) so you can
> easily identify it
> within the Gmail folders (labels) you have already created.
>
> I already have a Gmail account (that I don't use much). Different
> name (the bit before "@") from the account that I mostly use (the one
> that is "hosted" by the U. of Auckland).
>
> > Then install Claws and point it to your Gmail account. If you create
> > filters in Gmail I think Claws will pick these up and mirror them in
> > your Claws feed and folder.
> > or 2) install Claws and point it to your current email server(s)
> > 3) re-create your filters in Claws
>
> I don't think that this matters anyhow since it appears that claws-mail
> has adequate filtering capabilities.
>
> Paul says this indirect method using Gmail is a bad idea so just use
> Claws directly to get your email from the host you currently use TBird for
> and take the time to create new folders or use the downloadable tools to
> do that for you as someone already mentioned.
>
> I use Gmail because it gets email from a different mail host that I
> never send mail through and only need to be able to read. Gmail is my
> primary, if not only, mail host
> so Claws gets its feed from there. Every change made in Gmail is
> mirrored in Claws. I wish I could find another free email host that is
> reliable but for now I will continue using only Gmail.
>
> >
> > Its confusing for me because I have a lot of old email accounts
> > including an active one I can not directly
> > access without installing Thunderbird so I indirectly access it with
> > Claws and it works fine; easily manageable.
> >
> > 4. Are there any pitfalls or Traps for Young Players that I
> have not
> > envisaged in the foregoing?
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Do you want to run Claws on your boot drive with the entire Claws
> file
> > system existing there?
> > I do not run mine on my boot drive; doesn;t make sense. I run 3
> > computers with Win 7 to 8 to 10.
> > I Installed Claws on an external hard drive; all files exist
> there only.
> > I run it with a special string.
> > I can plug that hard drive into any of my computers and run it
> with the
> > same string. Works perfectly.
> > I recommend doing it that way.
> > Here is the string I use, change hard drive designation, folder
> names
> > and paths as needed: [maybe this will work for you]
> >
> > e:\CLAWS Mail\claws-mail.exe --alternate-config-dir e:\Claws Mail
> Config
>
> Again sorry to be a thicko, but again I don't understand. Why would I
> not want to run claws-mail on my boot drive? I'm pretty sure that I
> *do* want to; I want my email to be immediately and conveniently
> available. Your discussion seems to be Windoze oriented; I *don't do*
> Windoze. (I'm strictly Linux; I run Ubuntu 18.04.)
>
>
> I should use Linux but because of the kind of work I do and the wide
> array of apps I rely on I have to stick with Windows (7,8 and 10 on
> three computers).
> The advantage to having the entire Claws installation on a hard drive is
> that I can make copies of it on lots of drives and plug any of them into
> any of my computers and update Claws on all of them.
> A very portable system. If it is just on the boot drive on one computer
> I have to worry about keeping the filesystem backed up. This way I can
> run Claws on three computers at once and update each one,
> providing me with secure backups of all my email.
>
> I need to reverse engineer how I set this up with the edited config file
> so I can recreate it if I ever need to. For now the command I use to run
> it works fine. I think it is just incredible that I can run Claws on an
> external drive without it having to be installed on a boot drive, which
> it is not. It is all in the initial install of Claws on a machine and
> telling it where all the folders exist. It only creates a few files on
> each machine it is installed on, like my .signature.
>
>
> >
> > good luck
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> I hope you get Claws performing the way you want. I would try to use the
> tools that will convert your TBird mail folders to Claws ones. I hope
> you get that to work.
> I will be interested in any feedback you get about that.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Lawrence
> Chapel Hill, N.C.
>
>
> >
> >
> > I hope that these questions make sense and are not
> inappropriate, and
> > that one or more of you will be able to provide me with some
> useful
> > answers.
> >
> >
> > I will be interested in the replies you get to your questions.
>
> I'll cc the list in answering the replies that I get.
>
> cheers,
>
> Rolf
>
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