From c-blair at illinois.edu  Fri Feb  1 01:59:00 2019
From: c-blair at illinois.edu (Blair, Charles E III)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 00:59:00 +0000
Subject: [Users] Problem with office365 server
Message-ID: <CY1PR11MB066512A3A050C08D04CB1D5D81920@CY1PR11MB0665.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

   I am now using claws-mail 3.14.1 (system upgrade).

   I have IMAP: outlook.office365.com using SSL/TLS.

   I have SMTP: smtp.office365.com using STARTLS.

   Below is the log file.  Thanks for any advice.

[18:48:07]  Connecting to IMAP server: outlook.office365.com:993...
[18:48:07] IMAP< * OK The Microsoft Exchange IMAP4 service is ready. 
[18:48:07] * message: IMAP connection is un-authenticated
[18:48:07] IMAP> 1 CAPABILITY 
[18:48:07] IMAP< * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=XOAUTH2 SASL-IR UIDPLUS MOVE ID UNSELECT CHILDREN IDLE NAMESPACE LITERAL+ 
[18:48:07] IMAP< 1 OK CAPABILITY completed. 
[18:48:07] IMAP> Logging c-blair to outlook.office365.com using PLAIN
[18:48:07] IMAP< AUTHENTICATE failed.
[18:48:07] ** warning: IMAP error on outlook.office365.com: LOGIN error
[18:48:07] IMAP< Error logging in to outlook.office365.com
[18:48:07] IMAP> Logging c-blair to outlook.office365.com using plaintext
[18:48:08] IMAP< LOGIN failed.
[18:48:08] ** warning: IMAP error on outlook.office365.com: LOGIN error
[18:48:08] IMAP< Error logging in to outlook.office365.com
[18:48:20] IMAP> 4 LOGOUT 


From mir at miras.org  Fri Feb  1 07:28:21 2019
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 07:28:21 +0100
Subject: [Users] Problem with office365 server
In-Reply-To: <CY1PR11MB066512A3A050C08D04CB1D5D81920@CY1PR11MB0665.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CY1PR11MB066512A3A050C08D04CB1D5D81920@CY1PR11MB0665.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <20190201072821.6cce29fa@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 00:59:00 +0000
"Blair, Charles E III" <c-blair at illinois.edu> wrote:

> 
> [18:48:07]  Connecting to IMAP server: outlook.office365.com:993...
> [18:48:07] IMAP< * OK The Microsoft Exchange IMAP4 service is ready. 
> [18:48:07] * message: IMAP connection is un-authenticated
> [18:48:07] IMAP> 1 CAPABILITY 
> [18:48:07] IMAP< * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=XOAUTH2
> SASL-IR UIDPLUS MOVE ID UNSELECT CHILDREN IDLE NAMESPACE LITERAL+
> [18:48:07] IMAP< 1 OK CAPABILITY completed. [18:48:07] IMAP> Logging
> c-blair to outlook.office365.com using PLAIN [18:48:07] IMAP<
> AUTHENTICATE failed. [18:48:07] ** warning: IMAP error on
> outlook.office365.com: LOGIN error [18:48:07] IMAP< Error logging in
> to outlook.office365.com [18:48:07] IMAP> Logging c-blair to
> outlook.office365.com using plaintext [18:48:08] IMAP< LOGIN failed.
> [18:48:08] ** warning: IMAP error on outlook.office365.com: LOGIN
> error [18:48:08] IMAP< Error logging in to outlook.office365.com
> [18:48:20] IMAP> 4 LOGOUT 
Normally your account/login name with office365 equals to your email
address so try using your complete email address as login.

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917
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From freebsd at grem.de  Fri Feb  1 10:06:35 2019
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 10:06:35 +0100
Subject: [Users] Problem with office365 server
In-Reply-To: <CY1PR11MB066512A3A050C08D04CB1D5D81920@CY1PR11MB0665.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CY1PR11MB066512A3A050C08D04CB1D5D81920@CY1PR11MB0665.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <4DE365B7-9164-4E71-BC99-6498D9A47977@grem.de>



> On 1. Feb 2019, at 01:59, Blair, Charles E III <c-blair at illinois.edu> wrote:
> 
>   I am now using claws-mail 3.14.1 (system upgrade).
> 
>   I have IMAP: outlook.office365.com using SSL/TLS.
> 
>   I have SMTP: smtp.office365.com using STARTLS.
> 
>   Below is the log file.  Thanks for any advice.
> 
> [18:48:07]  Connecting to IMAP server: outlook.office365.com:993...
> [18:48:07] IMAP< * OK The Microsoft Exchange IMAP4 service is ready. 
> [18:48:07] * message: IMAP connection is un-authenticated
> [18:48:07] IMAP> 1 CAPABILITY 
> [18:48:07] IMAP< * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=XOAUTH2 SASL-IR UIDPLUS MOVE ID UNSELECT CHILDREN IDLE NAMESPACE LITERAL+ 
> [18:48:07] IMAP< 1 OK CAPABILITY completed. 
> [18:48:07] IMAP> Logging c-blair to outlook.office365.com using PLAIN
> [18:48:07] IMAP< AUTHENTICATE failed.
> [18:48:07] ** warning: IMAP error on outlook.office365.com: LOGIN error
> [18:48:07] IMAP< Error logging in to outlook.office365.com
> [18:48:07] IMAP> Logging c-blair to outlook.office365.com using plaintext
> [18:48:08] IMAP< LOGIN failed.
> [18:48:08] ** warning: IMAP error on outlook.office365.com: LOGIN error
> [18:48:08] IMAP< Error logging in to outlook.office365.com
> [18:48:20] IMAP> 4 LOGOUT 
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> https://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

Office365 suffered from major problems in the last few days, maybe it’s related.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/01/29/office_365_outage/

-m


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From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org  Sat Feb  2 10:08:32 2019
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 06:08:32 -0300
Subject: [Users] Two Claws-Mail annoyances under Linux
Message-ID: <20190202060832.06aa899d@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>


Following a migration from Devuan Linux to PCLinuxOS, and a complete re-install of everything, I find myself plagued, when using Claws Mail, with two annoying problems for which I found no help on the net:

The first one is almost certainly a CM problem, less sure about the second one. But anyway all help or advice would be very welcome.

1 -  I was used, under Devuan, when deleting a message, I was used to having the next un-read message automagically selected; no longer.

2 - When clicking on a web link, the Firefox windows is now automatically moved from the workspace where it was to that where I'm working in CM, instead of remaining where it belongs..

Any idea .
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
-- 
         El consejo de la mujer es poco, y el que no le toma es loco.
                                      -- Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra
                                    
                   -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
 


From perry at piermont.com  Sat Feb  2 17:19:14 2019
From: perry at piermont.com (Perry E. Metzger)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 11:19:14 -0500
Subject: [Users] Building the gtk3 claws variant?
Message-ID: <20190202111914.58e3fc89@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com>

What do I need to do in order to check out and build the gtk3 variant
of Claws? And is there a version of Fancy that works with it?

Perry
-- 
Perry E. Metzger		perry at piermont.com


From iwkse at claws-mail.org  Sat Feb  2 17:55:57 2019
From: iwkse at claws-mail.org (Salvatore De Paolis)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 17:55:57 +0100
Subject: [Users] Building the gtk3 claws variant?
In-Reply-To: <20190202111914.58e3fc89@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com>
References: <20190202111914.58e3fc89@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com>
Message-ID: <20190202175557.1f86ada7@net24.it>

Hi Perry,

On Sat, 2 Feb 2019 11:19:14 -0500
"Perry E. Metzger" <perry at piermont.com> wrote:

> What do I need to do in order to check out and build the gtk3 variant
> of Claws? And is there a version of Fancy that works with it?
> 
> Perry


You need to checkout the remote gtk3 branch like:

git checkout -b gtk3 origin/gtk3

and you're on the right branch for building fancy. It renders page in
the actual stage but there's stuff missing from the gtk2 version.
I also suggest you to take a look at the litehtml plugin. (there's a
specific branch for that)

-- 
Salvatore


From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Sat Feb  2 18:56:02 2019
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 09:56:02 -0800
Subject: [Users] RSSyl: disable feed
Message-ID: <20190202095602.170fce07@frogguski.911networks.com>

CM 3.17.3

I use RSSyl a lot. I have a whole bunch of feeds. Some of them are
quite old and now dead. But, I want to keep them.

Is there a way of disabling the feed but keeping the data?

-- 
sknahT

vyS


From ticho at claws-mail.org  Sat Feb  2 19:27:01 2019
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 19:27:01 +0100
Subject: [Users] RSSyl: disable feed
In-Reply-To: <20190202095602.170fce07@frogguski.911networks.com>
References: <20190202095602.170fce07@frogguski.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20190202192701.6ee75f8c@penny>

On Sat, 2 Feb 2019 09:56:02 -0800
sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:

> CM 3.17.3
> 
> I use RSSyl a lot. I have a whole bunch of feeds. Some of them are
> quite old and now dead. But, I want to keep them.
> 
> Is there a way of disabling the feed but keeping the data?

If by "disabling" you mean that the feed should not be updated/refreshed
anymore, you can set the refresh interval to 0 in feed properties.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej
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From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Sat Feb  2 21:53:29 2019
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 12:53:29 -0800
Subject: [Users] RSSyl: disable feed
In-Reply-To: <20190202192701.6ee75f8c@penny>
References: <20190202095602.170fce07@frogguski.911networks.com>
 <20190202192701.6ee75f8c@penny>
Message-ID: <20190202125329.3b09e031@frogguski.911networks.com>

On Sat, 2 Feb 2019 19:27:01 +0100
Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org> wrote:

>If by "disabling" you mean that the feed should not be
>updated/refreshed anymore, you can set the refresh interval to 0 in
>feed properties.

Exactly what I was looking for. I just didn't see the notice at the
bottom right of the screen until you mentioned it.

-- 
sknahT

vyS


From edodd at billiau.net  Sun Feb  3 01:51:12 2019
From: edodd at billiau.net (Liz)
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2019 11:51:12 +1100
Subject: [Users] Advice on configuring the From: header
Message-ID: <20190203115112.28aefa22@billiau.net>

I have just joined a list which will admit persons with a code embedded
in their email address.

The email address I have used does not have a "Send" function but only
redirects mail to another email address.

I would like my From: header to contain that address with the code
embedded
but send the mail out through an account which does do SMTP

Would a "Compose" template for the account do this for me?

Liz


From dave at howorth.org.uk  Sun Feb  3 21:00:21 2019
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2019 20:00:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] Advice on configuring the From: header
In-Reply-To: <20190203115112.28aefa22@billiau.net>
References: <20190203115112.28aefa22@billiau.net>
Message-ID: <20190203200021.070b4b9c@acer-suse.lan>

On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 11:51:12 +1100
Liz <edodd at billiau.net> wrote:

> I have just joined a list which will admit persons with a code
> embedded in their email address.
> 
> The email address I have used does not have a "Send" function but only
> redirects mail to another email address.
> 
> I would like my From: header to contain that address with the code
> embedded
> but send the mail out through an account which does do SMTP
> 
> Would a "Compose" template for the account do this for me?

I believe so, yes. I use a Reply template with %t in the From field to
ensure I reply with the appropriate From address to messages from
particular groups of correspondents. So I think you may need more than
just the Compose template if you ever reply to list postings, but
that's just an extension of your plan.


From subscript at free.fr  Sun Feb  3 21:38:18 2019
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2019 21:38:18 +0100
Subject: [Users] Advice on configuring the From: header
In-Reply-To: <20190203200021.070b4b9c@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20190203115112.28aefa22@billiau.net>
 <20190203200021.070b4b9c@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20190203213818.5f2f0de1@ladybug>

Hello,


On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 20:00:21 +0000 Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 11:51:12 +1100
> Liz <edodd at billiau.net> wrote:
> 
> > I have just joined a list which will admit persons with a code
> > embedded in their email address.
> > 
> > The email address I have used does not have a "Send" function but only
> > redirects mail to another email address.
> > 
> > I would like my From: header to contain that address with the code
> > embedded
> > but send the mail out through an account which does do SMTP
> > 
> > Would a "Compose" template for the account do this for me?  
> 
> I believe so, yes. I use a Reply template with %t in the From field to
> ensure I reply with the appropriate From address to messages from
> particular groups of correspondents. So I think you may need more than
> just the Compose template if you ever reply to list postings, but
> that's just an extension of your plan.

Alternatively you could use a send-only account.


Regards,

-- 
wwp
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From rol at witbe.net  Sun Feb  3 23:26:36 2019
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2019 23:26:36 +0100
Subject: [Users] Advice on configuring the From: header
In-Reply-To: <20190203213818.5f2f0de1@ladybug>
References: <20190203115112.28aefa22@billiau.net>
 <20190203200021.070b4b9c@acer-suse.lan>
 <20190203213818.5f2f0de1@ladybug>
Message-ID: <20190203232636.228b0b42@riri.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello,

On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 21:38:18 +0100
wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:

> Alternatively you could use a send-only account.

+1 - I've 18 of them configured on my machine, and this is working
perfectly.

Best,
Rol
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From dave at howorth.org.uk  Mon Feb  4 00:36:37 2019
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2019 23:36:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] Advice on configuring the From: header
In-Reply-To: <20190203232636.228b0b42@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
References: <20190203115112.28aefa22@billiau.net>
 <20190203200021.070b4b9c@acer-suse.lan>
 <20190203213818.5f2f0de1@ladybug>
 <20190203232636.228b0b42@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
Message-ID: <20190203233637.0136513a@acer-suse.lan>

On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 23:26:36 +0100
"Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)" <rol at witbe.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 21:38:18 +0100
> wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:
> 
> > Alternatively you could use a send-only account.  
> 
> +1 - I've 18 of them configured on my machine, and this is working
> perfectly.
> 
> Best,
> Rol

I'm curious how that works. If I want to send a reply to a list
message, so as to preserve threading etc, what do I do?


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Feb  4 08:34:52 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 07:34:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3991] Deleting news subscription preserves its
 newscache subfolder
In-Reply-To: <bug-3991-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3991-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3991-595-GPW6BPop0x@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3991

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |WORKSFORME

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Feb  4 08:53:08 2019
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 07:53:08 -0000
Subject: [Users] Advice on configuring the From: header
In-Reply-To: <20190203115112.28aefa22@billiau.net>
References: <20190203115112.28aefa22@billiau.net>
Message-ID: <20190204075308.01ba4a5d@localhost>

On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 11:51:12 +1100
Liz <edodd at billiau.net> wrote: 

> Would a "Compose" template for the account do this for me?

No, the Templates in the Account preferences do not offer the From
header.

However, either the general Templates (/Configuration/Templates) and
the folder Templates (right-click folder, choose 'Properties') do.

So, for example, if you filter those ml msgs to a certain folder, you
can set a Template for that folder.

Alternately, as has already been suggested, you can create an
SMTP-only account. Filtering those ml msg to a folder and setting
this new account as the default account in the folder properties
would automate that.

with regards

Paul


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Mon Feb  4 08:51:48 2019
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 07:51:48 +0000
Subject: [Users] Advice on configuring the From: header
In-Reply-To: <20190203233637.0136513a@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20190203115112.28aefa22@billiau.net>
 <20190203200021.070b4b9c@acer-suse.lan>
 <20190203213818.5f2f0de1@ladybug>
 <20190203232636.228b0b42@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20190203233637.0136513a@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20190204075148.5e3800d0@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 23:36:37 +0000
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:

Hello Dave,

>I'm curious how that works. If I want to send a reply to a list
>message, so as to preserve threading etc, what do I do?

List messages should be sorted to their own folder, and the folder set up
so that outgoing messages are saved there rather than "Sent".

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
Your life is like a schedule, you run to meet the bills
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From subscript at free.fr  Mon Feb  4 09:01:18 2019
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 09:01:18 +0100
Subject: [Users] Advice on configuring the From: header
In-Reply-To: <20190203233637.0136513a@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20190203115112.28aefa22@billiau.net>
 <20190203200021.070b4b9c@acer-suse.lan>
 <20190203213818.5f2f0de1@ladybug>
 <20190203232636.228b0b42@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20190203233637.0136513a@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20190204090118.0dc77a4a@ladybug>

Hello Dave,


On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 23:36:37 +0000 Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 23:26:36 +0100
> "Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)" <rol at witbe.net> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 21:38:18 +0100
> > wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:
> >   
> > > Alternatively you could use a send-only account.    
> > 
> > +1 - I've 18 of them configured on my machine, and this is working
> > perfectly.
> > 
> > Best,
> > Rol  
> 
> I'm curious how that works. If I want to send a reply to a list
> message, so as to preserve threading etc, what do I do?

In fact you don't even need a send-only account to do what you want.
You just need to filter incoming mails from your account, matching "a
list" to be copied into "a folder" (which you already have probably),
and in this folder's properties (in Compose), set the default account
to be "your account" and set your "address with the code embedded" in
the From field of the compose/reply/forward templates.

The alternate way using a send-only account would be:

1. Configure your "normal" receive/send account.
2. Configure your new send-only (SMTP) account w/ the exact same
information as set in the normal account but the email address contains
"the code embedded".
3. Configure filtering rules at least so that mails received with your
normal account, from "a list", land into a specific folder.
4. In the properties of that list folder, set the default account to be
your send-only account. No need to play w/ templates.

BTW, is "the code embedded" like the normalized email alias address,
like "dave+code at ..." ?


Regards,

-- 
wwp
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From edodd at billiau.net  Mon Feb  4 11:04:32 2019
From: edodd at billiau.net (Liz)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 21:04:32 +1100
Subject: [Users] Advice on configuring the From: header
In-Reply-To: <20190204090118.0dc77a4a@ladybug>
References: <20190203115112.28aefa22@billiau.net>
 <20190203200021.070b4b9c@acer-suse.lan>
 <20190203213818.5f2f0de1@ladybug>
 <20190203232636.228b0b42@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20190203233637.0136513a@acer-suse.lan>
 <20190204090118.0dc77a4a@ladybug>
Message-ID: <20190204210432.2f90e7a9@billiau.net>

On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 09:01:18 +0100
wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:

> Hello Dave,
> 
> 
> On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 23:36:37 +0000 Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 23:26:36 +0100
> > "Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)" <rol at witbe.net> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 21:38:18 +0100
> > > wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:
> > >     
> > > > Alternatively you could use a send-only account.      
> > > 
> > > +1 - I've 18 of them configured on my machine, and this is working
> > > perfectly.
> > > 
> > > Best,
> > > Rol    
> > 
> > I'm curious how that works. If I want to send a reply to a list
> > message, so as to preserve threading etc, what do I do?  
> 
> In fact you don't even need a send-only account to do what you want.
> You just need to filter incoming mails from your account, matching "a
> list" to be copied into "a folder" (which you already have probably),
> and in this folder's properties (in Compose), set the default account
> to be "your account" and set your "address with the code embedded" in
> the From field of the compose/reply/forward templates.
> 
> The alternate way using a send-only account would be:
> 
> 1. Configure your "normal" receive/send account.
> 2. Configure your new send-only (SMTP) account w/ the exact same
> information as set in the normal account but the email address
> contains "the code embedded".
> 3. Configure filtering rules at least so that mails received with your
> normal account, from "a list", land into a specific folder.
> 4. In the properties of that list folder, set the default account to
> be your send-only account. No need to play w/ templates.
> 
> BTW, is "the code embedded" like the normalized email alias address,
> like "dave+code at ..." ?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 

Lots of interesting ideas here. 
So the coded email address
code at example.org.au
can only receive mail. It goes to a forwarder which sends it to an
email account in the normal sense.

I'm not sure how I can send a mail with that address, because many
places refuse mail where the email address and the sending mail server
don't match.
However, I will try and see what happens.

Yes, the mails are already filtered to their own folder.

Liz


From jerry at seibercom.net  Mon Feb  4 17:10:41 2019
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 11:10:41 -0500
Subject: [Users] managesieve plug in problem
Message-ID: <20190204111041.00006a91@seibercom.net>

dovecot 2.3.4
FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE-p2
Claws Mail version 3.17.3 for Windows

I have been experimenting with the "managesieve" plug in. The plug in
can find and open the existing "default" sieve file just fine.
Unfortunately, it cannot write to it, at least not unless I give
everything "0777" permissions. Everything in the directory is under
"vmail" owner and group.
/usr/local/etc/dovecot/sieve directory
drwxr-xr-x  3 root   wheel     7B 2019-02-02 05:39:03 EST ./
drwxr-xr-x  7 root   wheel    10B 2019-01-20 19:54:38 EST ../
-rw-r--r--  1 root   wheel   205B 2018-09-09 12:13:04 EDT Makefile
-rw-r--r--  1 vmail  vmail    27K 2019-02-02 05:37:47 EST default.sieve
-rw-r--r--  1 vmail  vmail    27K 2019-02-02 05:37:47 EST default.sieve-bak
-rw-r--r--  1 vmail  vmail    25K 2019-02-02 05:38:14 EST default.svbin
drwxr-xr-x  2 vmail  vmail     2B 2019-02-04 10:51:04 EST tmp/

The error message from the dovecot log:

Feb 04 10:51:04
managesieve(gerard at seibercom.net)<33610><+Lj+ahOBtROubeH6>: Erro r:
sieve: file storage: save: Failed to save Sieve script:
rename(/usr/local/etc /dovecot/sieve/default.sieve) failed: Permission
denied (euid=1002(vmail) egid=1 002(vmail) UNIX perms appear ok
(ACL/MAC wrong?), dir owned by 0:0 mode=0755)

Dovecot is in the vmail group:
pw showgroup vmail
vmail:*:1002:dovecot

I am not sure if this is a claws-mail problem or a dovecot one;
however, I thought I would start here.

Thanks!

-- 
Jerry


From freebsd at grem.de  Mon Feb  4 17:19:14 2019
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 17:19:14 +0100
Subject: [Users] managesieve plug in problem
In-Reply-To: <20190204111041.00006a91@seibercom.net>
References: <20190204111041.00006a91@seibercom.net>
Message-ID: <E2AE5BA5-050C-48D4-9533-974CBD8AA4F9@grem.de>

The error message is pretty clear: the directory isn’t owned by the vmail user, it really should be. Might be an issue with dovecot (or manually copying things around, as usually dovecot creates everything under the vmail user, assuming you configured it correctly).

-m

> On 4. Feb 2019, at 17:10, Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:
> 
> dovecot 2.3.4
> FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE-p2
> Claws Mail version 3.17.3 for Windows
> 
> I have been experimenting with the "managesieve" plug in. The plug in
> can find and open the existing "default" sieve file just fine.
> Unfortunately, it cannot write to it, at least not unless I give
> everything "0777" permissions. Everything in the directory is under
> "vmail" owner and group.
> /usr/local/etc/dovecot/sieve directory
> drwxr-xr-x  3 root   wheel     7B 2019-02-02 05:39:03 EST ./
> drwxr-xr-x  7 root   wheel    10B 2019-01-20 19:54:38 EST ../
> -rw-r--r--  1 root   wheel   205B 2018-09-09 12:13:04 EDT Makefile
> -rw-r--r--  1 vmail  vmail    27K 2019-02-02 05:37:47 EST default.sieve
> -rw-r--r--  1 vmail  vmail    27K 2019-02-02 05:37:47 EST default.sieve-bak
> -rw-r--r--  1 vmail  vmail    25K 2019-02-02 05:38:14 EST default.svbin
> drwxr-xr-x  2 vmail  vmail     2B 2019-02-04 10:51:04 EST tmp/
> 
> The error message from the dovecot log:
> 
> Feb 04 10:51:04
> managesieve(gerard at seibercom.net)<33610><+Lj+ahOBtROubeH6>: Erro r:
> sieve: file storage: save: Failed to save Sieve script:
> rename(/usr/local/etc /dovecot/sieve/default.sieve) failed: Permission
> denied (euid=1002(vmail) egid=1 002(vmail) UNIX perms appear ok
> (ACL/MAC wrong?), dir owned by 0:0 mode=0755)
> 
> Dovecot is in the vmail group:
> pw showgroup vmail
> vmail:*:1002:dovecot
> 
> I am not sure if this is a claws-mail problem or a dovecot one;
> however, I thought I would start here.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -- 
> Jerry
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> https://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users



From jerry at seibercom.net  Mon Feb  4 17:58:22 2019
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 11:58:22 -0500
Subject: [Users] managesieve plug in problem
In-Reply-To: <E2AE5BA5-050C-48D4-9533-974CBD8AA4F9@grem.de>
References: <20190204111041.00006a91@seibercom.net>
 <E2AE5BA5-050C-48D4-9533-974CBD8AA4F9@grem.de>
Message-ID: <20190204115822.0000443f@seibercom.net>

On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 17:19:14 +0100, Michael Gmelin stated:
>> On 4. Feb 2019, at 17:10, Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:
>> 
>> dovecot 2.3.4
>> FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE-p2
>> Claws Mail version 3.17.3 for Windows
>> 
>> I have been experimenting with the "managesieve" plug in. The plug in
>> can find and open the existing "default" sieve file just fine.
>> Unfortunately, it cannot write to it, at least not unless I give
>> everything "0777" permissions. Everything in the directory is under
>> "vmail" owner and group.
>> /usr/local/etc/dovecot/sieve directory
>> drwxr-xr-x  3 root   wheel     7B 2019-02-02 05:39:03 EST ./
>> drwxr-xr-x  7 root   wheel    10B 2019-01-20 19:54:38 EST ../
>> -rw-r--r--  1 root   wheel   205B 2018-09-09 12:13:04 EDT Makefile
>> -rw-r--r--  1 vmail  vmail    27K 2019-02-02 05:37:47 EST
>> default.sieve -rw-r--r--  1 vmail  vmail    27K 2019-02-02 05:37:47
>> EST default.sieve-bak -rw-r--r--  1 vmail  vmail    25K 2019-02-02
>> 05:38:14 EST default.svbin drwxr-xr-x  2 vmail  vmail     2B
>> 2019-02-04 10:51:04 EST tmp/
>> 
>> The error message from the dovecot log:
>> 
>> Feb 04 10:51:04
>> managesieve(gerard at seibercom.net)<33610><+Lj+ahOBtROubeH6>: Erro r:
>> sieve: file storage: save: Failed to save Sieve script:
>> rename(/usr/local/etc /dovecot/sieve/default.sieve) failed:
>> Permission denied (euid=1002(vmail) egid=1 002(vmail) UNIX perms
>> appear ok (ACL/MAC wrong?), dir owned by 0:0 mode=0755)
>> 
>> Dovecot is in the vmail group:
>> pw showgroup vmail
>> vmail:*:1002:dovecot
>> 
>> I am not sure if this is a claws-mail problem or a dovecot one;
>> however, I thought I would start here.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> -- 
>> Jerry

>The error message is pretty clear: the directory isn’t owned by the
>vmail user, it really should be. Might be an issue with dovecot (or
>manually copying things around, as usually dovecot creates everything
>under the vmail user, assuming you configured it correctly).
>
>-m

Considering that all the data files were user/group "vmail" and that
dovecot was in the "vmail" group, I find it rather interesting that the
plug in, apparently running as user/group "vmail" could not write to the
file although it could open and view it. I changed the ownership on
the directory and the problem is now solved. Now I just have to wait
and see if any problems show up on the dovecot side.

-- 
Jerry




From dave at howorth.org.uk  Mon Feb  4 19:17:28 2019
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 18:17:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] managesieve plug in problem
In-Reply-To: <20190204115822.0000443f@seibercom.net>
References: <20190204111041.00006a91@seibercom.net>
 <E2AE5BA5-050C-48D4-9533-974CBD8AA4F9@grem.de>
 <20190204115822.0000443f@seibercom.net>
Message-ID: <20190204181728.395b4e3b@acer-suse.lan>

On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 11:58:22 -0500
Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 17:19:14 +0100, Michael Gmelin stated:
> >> On 4. Feb 2019, at 17:10, Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >> dovecot 2.3.4
> >> FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE-p2
> >> Claws Mail version 3.17.3 for Windows
> >> 
> >> I have been experimenting with the "managesieve" plug in. The plug
> >> in can find and open the existing "default" sieve file just fine.
> >> Unfortunately, it cannot write to it, at least not unless I give
> >> everything "0777" permissions. Everything in the directory is under
> >> "vmail" owner and group.
> >> /usr/local/etc/dovecot/sieve directory
> >> drwxr-xr-x  3 root   wheel     7B 2019-02-02 05:39:03 EST ./
> >> drwxr-xr-x  7 root   wheel    10B 2019-01-20 19:54:38 EST ../
> >> -rw-r--r--  1 root   wheel   205B 2018-09-09 12:13:04 EDT Makefile
> >> -rw-r--r--  1 vmail  vmail    27K 2019-02-02 05:37:47 EST
> >> default.sieve -rw-r--r--  1 vmail  vmail    27K 2019-02-02 05:37:47
> >> EST default.sieve-bak -rw-r--r--  1 vmail  vmail    25K 2019-02-02
> >> 05:38:14 EST default.svbin drwxr-xr-x  2 vmail  vmail     2B
> >> 2019-02-04 10:51:04 EST tmp/
> >> 
> >> The error message from the dovecot log:
> >> 
> >> Feb 04 10:51:04
> >> managesieve(gerard at seibercom.net)<33610><+Lj+ahOBtROubeH6>: Erro r:
> >> sieve: file storage: save: Failed to save Sieve script:
> >> rename(/usr/local/etc /dovecot/sieve/default.sieve) failed:
> >> Permission denied (euid=1002(vmail) egid=1 002(vmail) UNIX perms
> >> appear ok (ACL/MAC wrong?), dir owned by 0:0 mode=0755)
> >> 
> >> Dovecot is in the vmail group:
> >> pw showgroup vmail
> >> vmail:*:1002:dovecot
> >> 
> >> I am not sure if this is a claws-mail problem or a dovecot one;
> >> however, I thought I would start here.
> >> 
> >> Thanks!
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Jerry  
> 
> >The error message is pretty clear: the directory isn’t owned by the
> >vmail user, it really should be. Might be an issue with dovecot (or
> >manually copying things around, as usually dovecot creates everything
> >under the vmail user, assuming you configured it correctly).
> >
> >-m  
> 
> Considering that all the data files were user/group "vmail" and that
> dovecot was in the "vmail" group, I find it rather interesting that
> the plug in, apparently running as user/group "vmail" could not write
> to the file although it could open and view it.

Surely it's behaving entirely as expected? The only 'person' who can
*write* to the directory is the 'vair' user. You were apparently running
as the 'dovecot' user and so had only read permission.

> I changed the
> ownership on the directory and the problem is now solved. Now I just
> have to wait and see if any problems show up on the dovecot side.
> 



From jerry at seibercom.net  Mon Feb  4 22:02:20 2019
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 16:02:20 -0500
Subject: [Users] managesieve plug in problem
In-Reply-To: <20190204181728.395b4e3b@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20190204111041.00006a91@seibercom.net>
 <E2AE5BA5-050C-48D4-9533-974CBD8AA4F9@grem.de>
 <20190204115822.0000443f@seibercom.net>
 <20190204181728.395b4e3b@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20190204160220.00004d73@seibercom.net>

On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 18:17:28 +0000, Dave Howorth stated:

>Surely it's behaving entirely as expected? The only 'person' who can
>*write* to the directory is the 'vair' user. You were apparently
>running as the 'dovecot' user and so had only read permission.

I assume you meant "vmail" user. I have to contact the dovecot group.
Dovecot is configured to use "vmail"; however, there may be a separate
setting for the managesieve plug in that I am not aware of.

-- 
Jerry


From freebsd at grem.de  Mon Feb  4 22:09:07 2019
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 22:09:07 +0100
Subject: [Users] managesieve plug in problem
In-Reply-To: <20190204160220.00004d73@seibercom.net>
References: <20190204111041.00006a91@seibercom.net>
 <E2AE5BA5-050C-48D4-9533-974CBD8AA4F9@grem.de>
 <20190204115822.0000443f@seibercom.net>
 <20190204181728.395b4e3b@acer-suse.lan>
 <20190204160220.00004d73@seibercom.net>
Message-ID: <CB9D3918-4D19-4D6F-9854-07C40602E5A5@grem.de>

I’m using a similar setup (dovecot + sieve) and I didn’t perceive such behavior.

I would suggest you create a new user on your server for testing purposes to see if you can reproduce that problem. My gut feeling is that it was caused by accident by some manual administrative task.

> On 4. Feb 2019, at 22:02, Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 18:17:28 +0000, Dave Howorth stated:
> 
>> Surely it's behaving entirely as expected? The only 'person' who can
>> *write* to the directory is the 'vair' user. You were apparently
>> running as the 'dovecot' user and so had only read permission.
> 
> I assume you meant "vmail" user. I have to contact the dovecot group.
> Dovecot is configured to use "vmail"; however, there may be a separate
> setting for the managesieve plug in that I am not aware of.
> 
> -- 
> Jerry
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> https://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users



From jn.ml.clwm.729 at letterboxes.org  Tue Feb  5 00:29:44 2019
From: jn.ml.clwm.729 at letterboxes.org (Jeremy Nicoll)
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 18:29:44 -0500
Subject: [Users] Advice on configuring the From: header
In-Reply-To: <20190204210432.2f90e7a9@billiau.net>
References: <20190203115112.28aefa22@billiau.net>
 <20190203200021.070b4b9c@acer-suse.lan> <20190203213818.5f2f0de1@ladybug>
 <20190203232636.228b0b42@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20190203233637.0136513a@acer-suse.lan> <20190204090118.0dc77a4a@ladybug>
 <20190204210432.2f90e7a9@billiau.net>
Message-ID: <6e1ae806-3903-4f29-821d-17794608d977@www.fastmail.com>

On Mon, 4 Feb 2019, at 10:05, Liz wrote:

> Lots of interesting ideas here. 
> So the coded email address
> code at example.org.au
> can only receive mail. It goes to a forwarder which sends it to an
> email account in the normal sense.
> 
> I'm not sure how I can send a mail with that address, because many
> places refuse mail where the email address and the sending mail server
> don't match.
> However, I will try and see what happens.

For some of my mail lists I'm subscribed twice, under two different
email addresses.

I send contributions from one email address but never get any ml
traffic sent to that address.

I receive copies of all ml messages to a different address, but never
reply to the list (or make new posts) from that address.

I think I first started doing that with Yahoo lists, when one joined 
Yahoo with a  "Yahoo id", which had nothing to do with an email 
address.  And one could associate several (four?) email addresses
with the Yahoo id.   Then, per mail list, it was possible (and maybe 
still is) to say which address (of the four) one wanted a particular
list's traffic to be sent to.   Contributions to any/all lists could come
from any of the addresses that matched one's Yahoo id.

-- 
Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Feb  5 13:41:01 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 12:41:01 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1606] Make send account,
 receive account and identities independent
In-Reply-To: <bug-1606-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1606-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1606-595-u2aXxLzs8s@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1606

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Created attachment 1955
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https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1955&action=edit
How to slove dependencies

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From geoff at hughes.net  Wed Feb  6 01:18:49 2019
From: geoff at hughes.net (Geoffrey Leach)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 16:18:49 -0800
Subject: [Users] "new mail " plugin?
Message-ID: <20190205161756.761c065e@puget.mtranch.com>

I'm looking for a "new mail" plugin that runs under xfce. Any pointers?


From colin at colino.net  Wed Feb  6 08:56:00 2019
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy-Mira)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 08:56:00 +0100
Subject: [Users] "new mail " plugin?
In-Reply-To: <20190205161756.761c065e@puget.mtranch.com>
References: <20190205161756.761c065e@puget.mtranch.com>
Message-ID: <20190206085600.28412879@colin.i-run.lau>

On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 16:18:49 -0800, Geoffrey Leach <geoff at hughes.net>
wrote:

Hi,

> I'm looking for a "new mail" plugin that runs under xfce. Any
> pointers?

the Notification plugin probably? (what feature are you looking for
exactly?)

-- 
Colin


From subscript at free.fr  Wed Feb  6 09:01:48 2019
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 09:01:48 +0100
Subject: [Users] "new mail " plugin?
In-Reply-To: <20190205161756.761c065e@puget.mtranch.com>
References: <20190205161756.761c065e@puget.mtranch.com>
Message-ID: <20190206090148.76079621@ladybug>

Hello Geoffrey,


On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 16:18:49 -0800 Geoffrey Leach <geoff at hughes.net> wrote:

> I'm looking for a "new mail" plugin that runs under xfce. Any pointers?

New mail.. as being notified when a new mail comes in? Or a widget to
click on, in order to compose a new mail?

The shorter is not always the clearer. Could you elaborate a bit?


Regards,

-- 
wwp
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From pf at pfortin.com  Wed Feb  6 13:51:20 2019
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 07:51:20 -0500
Subject: [Users] procmsg.c:  Error vs Warning on Send
Message-ID: <20190206075120.172bf10b@pfortin.com>

Kept getting an Error while sending large messages...

Shouldn't the following dialog be a Warning?  It's not really an Error
when a message is queued simply because there's already a message being
sent...

   Error
   Already trying to send.
   Use "Send queued messages" from the main window to retry.

Also, the user does not need to use "Send queued messages" in this case
since the queued messages get sent without intervention as the previous
one(s) complete; thus making even a Warning redundant.


From geoff at hughes.net  Wed Feb  6 15:13:49 2019
From: geoff at hughes.net (Geoffrey Leach)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 06:13:49 -0800
Subject: [Users] "new mail " plugin?
In-Reply-To: <20190206090148.76079621@ladybug>
References: <20190205161756.761c065e@puget.mtranch.com>
 <20190206090148.76079621@ladybug>
Message-ID: <20190206061349.5301cd0c@puget.mtranch.com>

Thanks for the reply (and Colin as well!)

A widget that sits in the task bar and monitors the inbox. When new
mail arrives, it changes its (visible) state. Different color,
different gif, whatever. Clicking on the widget opens Claws.

On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 09:01:48 +0100
wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:

> On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 16:18:49 -0800 Geoffrey Leach <geoff at hughes.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > I'm looking for a "new mail" plugin that runs under xfce. Any
> > pointers?  
> 
> New mail.. as being notified when a new mail comes in? Or a widget to
> click on, in order to compose a new mail?
> 
> The shorter is not always the clearer. Could you elaborate a bit?




From colin at colino.net  Wed Feb  6 15:20:35 2019
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy-Mira)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 15:20:35 +0100
Subject: [Users] "new mail " plugin?
In-Reply-To: <20190206061349.5301cd0c@puget.mtranch.com>
References: <20190205161756.761c065e@puget.mtranch.com>
 <20190206090148.76079621@ladybug>
 <20190206061349.5301cd0c@puget.mtranch.com>
Message-ID: <20190206152035.15e66d07@colin.i-run.lau>

On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 06:13:49 -0800, Geoffrey Leach <geoff at hughes.net>
wrote:

> Thanks for the reply (and Colin as well!)
> 
> A widget that sits in the task bar and monitors the inbox. When new
> mail arrives, it changes its (visible) state. Different color,
> different gif, whatever. Clicking on the widget opens Claws.

That's the Notification plugin with the systray icon enabled :)

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From subscript at free.fr  Wed Feb  6 15:29:28 2019
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 15:29:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] "new mail " plugin?
In-Reply-To: <20190206061349.5301cd0c@puget.mtranch.com>
References: <20190205161756.761c065e@puget.mtranch.com>
 <20190206090148.76079621@ladybug>
 <20190206061349.5301cd0c@puget.mtranch.com>
Message-ID: <20190206152821.56ef3d12@ladybug>

Hello Geoffrey,


On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 06:13:49 -0800 Geoffrey Leach <geoff at hughes.net> wrote:

> Thanks for the reply (and Colin as well!)
> 
> A widget that sits in the task bar and monitors the inbox. When new
> mail arrives, it changes its (visible) state. Different color,
> different gif, whatever. Clicking on the widget opens Claws.
[snip]

Then, what Colin has suggested is what you need, once the Notification
plugin is loaded, see Configuration/Preferences/Plugins/Notification/SysTrayIcon.


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From geoff at hughes.net  Wed Feb  6 17:23:08 2019
From: geoff at hughes.net (Geoffrey Leach)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 08:23:08 -0800
Subject: [Users] "new mail " plugin?
In-Reply-To: <20190206152821.56ef3d12@ladybug>
References: <20190205161756.761c065e@puget.mtranch.com>
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 <20190206061349.5301cd0c@puget.mtranch.com>
 <20190206152821.56ef3d12@ladybug>
Message-ID: <20190206082308.3fb4229d@puget.mtranch.com>

Splendid. Exactly what I need. Thanks.

On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 15:29:28 +0100
wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:

> Hello Geoffrey,
> 
> 
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 06:13:49 -0800 Geoffrey Leach <geoff at hughes.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for the reply (and Colin as well!)
> > 
> > A widget that sits in the task bar and monitors the inbox. When new
> > mail arrives, it changes its (visible) state. Different color,
> > different gif, whatever. Clicking on the widget opens Claws.  
> [snip]
> 
> Then, what Colin has suggested is what you need, once the Notification
> plugin is loaded, see
> Configuration/Preferences/Plugins/Notification/SysTrayIcon.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 



From mykhyggz at gmail.com  Sat Feb  9 01:32:43 2019
From: mykhyggz at gmail.com (Michael Higgins)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 16:32:43 -0800
Subject: [Users] Threading problem via gmail
Message-ID: <20190208163243.4980f8d0@lappytoppy>

Hey folks...

Shot in the dark here, but my GF sez all the other folks that send her
email, their messages are threaded just fine.

However, not mine. Where should I look to fix things?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Feb 11 10:17:04 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 09:17:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3759] Keyboard shortcuts don't work in address book
In-Reply-To: <bug-3759-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3759-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3759-595-9ORLinXYq0@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3759

--- Comment #3 from Tristan Miller <psychonaut at nothingisreal.com> ---
Confirming that the problem still exists in Claws Mail 3.17.3.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Feb 11 10:25:25 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 09:25:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4153] New: Can't set shortcuts for commands in
 second-level menus
Message-ID: <bug-4153-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4153

            Bug ID: 4153
           Summary: Can't set shortcuts for commands in second-level menus
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com

The UI FAQ at
<https://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Interface#How_can_I_change_the_key-bindings_.28hot-keys.29_in_Claws_Mail.3F>
describes the procedure for binding a shortcut key to a pull-down menu command:
activate the menu, mouse-over the desired command, and type the desired
shortcut.  Unfortunately, this procedure works only for top-level menu entries.
 It does not work for menu entries on the second or subsequent levels, such as
the  "Spelling->Options->Use alternate" command of the Compose window.

AFAIK the problem was first reported for Claws Mail 3.8.0 on (X)ubuntu 12.04 at
<https://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2012-October/004022.html> but I
can still reproduce it with Claws Mail 3.17.3 on openSUSE Tumbleweed.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Feb 11 10:36:46 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 09:36:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4153] Can't set shortcuts for commands in
 Spelling->Options menu of Compose window
In-Reply-To: <bug-4153-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4153-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4153-595-qm96f4cKtw@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4153

Tristan Miller <psychonaut at nothingisreal.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
          Component|UI                          |UI/Compose Window/Spell
                   |                            |Checker
            Summary|Can't set shortcuts for     |Can't set shortcuts for
                   |commands in second-level    |commands in
                   |menus                       |Spelling->Options menu of
                   |                            |Compose window

--- Comment #1 from Tristan Miller <psychonaut at nothingisreal.com> ---
Upon further testing and reading the source, it appears that this isn't a
general problem with second-level menus.  With some of them you can set
shortcuts, and with some of them you can't.  From looking at compose.c, it
looks like there is simply no shortcut identifier defined for the commands
under Spelling/Options.

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From codejodler at gmx.ch  Tue Feb 12 06:07:07 2019
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 06:07:07 +0100
Subject: [Users] tagsdb cleanup ?
Message-ID: <20190212060707.56818b5a@gandalf.lan3>

Looking into .claws-mail/tagdb folder, there doesn't seem to happen any cleanup  ... i can see folders which were deleted long ago.

What can i do to clean it up ? Can i just delete the folders in 'tagsdb', and then do a toplevel 'rebuild folder tree' ? 


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Tue Feb 12 23:23:38 2019
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 22:23:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] Latest git - missing header file
Message-ID: <20190212222338.000018a4@prost.fenrir.org.uk>


Just tried to build 3.17.3git95 and I get this error:

In file included from css_selector.cpp:3:
document.h:7:10: fatal error: gumbo.h: No such file or directory
 #include "gumbo.h"
          ^~~~~~~~~
compilation terminated.

I assume that it's just a file that got left out of the git commits...

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From mir at miras.org  Tue Feb 12 23:48:12 2019
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 23:48:12 +0100
Subject: [Users] Latest git - missing header file
In-Reply-To: <20190212222338.000018a4@prost.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20190212222338.000018a4@prost.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20190212234812.505c546c@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 22:23:38 +0000
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

> Just tried to build 3.17.3git95 and I get this error:
> 
> In file included from css_selector.cpp:3:
> document.h:7:10: fatal error: gumbo.h: No such file or directory
>  #include "gumbo.h"
>           ^~~~~~~~~
> compilation terminated.
> 
> I assume that it's just a file that got left out of the git commits...
> 
Do you have gumbo development package installed?

dpkg -s libgumbo-dev
Package: libgumbo-dev
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: libdevel
Installed-Size: 577
Maintainer: Onur Aslan <onur at onur.im>
Architecture: amd64
Multi-Arch: same
Source: gumbo-parser
Version: 0.10.1+dfsg-2.3
Depends: libgumbo1 (= 0.10.1+dfsg-2.3)
Description: pure-C HTML5 parser development files
 Gumbo is an implementation of the HTML5 parsing algorithm implemented
 as a pure C99 library with no outside dependencies.  It's designed to
serve as a building block for other tools and libraries such as linters,
 validators, templating languages, and refactoring and analysis tools.
 .
 This package contains development files for Gumbo.
Homepage: https://github.com/google/gumbo-parser


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From mir at miras.org  Tue Feb 12 23:54:58 2019
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 23:54:58 +0100
Subject: [Users] Latest git - missing header file
In-Reply-To: <20190212234812.505c546c@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20190212222338.000018a4@prost.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20190212234812.505c546c@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20190212235458.6bbc3b2b@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 23:48:12 +0100
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 22:23:38 +0000
> Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > Just tried to build 3.17.3git95 and I get this error:
> > 
> > In file included from css_selector.cpp:3:
> > document.h:7:10: fatal error: gumbo.h: No such file or directory
> >  #include "gumbo.h"
> >           ^~~~~~~~~
> > compilation terminated.
> > 
> > I assume that it's just a file that got left out of the git
> > commits... 
> Do you have gumbo development package installed?
> 
dpkg -S gumbo.h
libgumbo-dev:amd64: /usr/include/gumbo.h


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From ticho at claws-mail.org  Wed Feb 13 00:00:55 2019
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 00:00:55 +0100
Subject: [Users] Latest git - missing header file
In-Reply-To: <20190212222338.000018a4@prost.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20190212222338.000018a4@prost.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20190213000055.28cc6ffe@penny>

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 22:23:38 +0000
Brian Morrison wrote:

> Just tried to build 3.17.3git95 and I get this error:
> 
> In file included from css_selector.cpp:3:
> document.h:7:10: fatal error: gumbo.h: No such file or directory
>  #include "gumbo.h"
>           ^~~~~~~~~
> compilation terminated.
> 
> I assume that it's just a file that got left out of the git commits...
> 

Hm, the litehtml plugin should have been automatically disabled if
configure did not find libgumbo, and you shouldn't have come across
this error.

Can you please send me the config.log file from your build, so that I
can look at what went wrong?

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From mir at miras.org  Wed Feb 13 00:48:24 2019
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 00:48:24 +0100
Subject: [Users] Latest git - missing header file
In-Reply-To: <20190213000055.28cc6ffe@penny>
References: <20190212222338.000018a4@prost.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20190213000055.28cc6ffe@penny>
Message-ID: <20190213004824.1021b5a9@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 00:00:55 +0100
Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org> wrote:

> 
> Hm, the litehtml plugin should have been automatically disabled if
> configure did not find libgumbo, and you shouldn't have come across
> this error.
> 
> Can you please send me the config.log file from your build, so that I
> can look at what went wrong?
> 
Fixed in 6438002de


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From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org  Wed Feb 13 12:45:11 2019
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 08:45:11 -0300
Subject: [Users] Tweak needed
Message-ID: <20190213084511.666838af@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>

In a new install of Claws-Mail, under PCLinuxOS.

When I delete a message, CM selects the message directly above in the message list; I would like it to go to the next unread message, as it did under Debian then Devuan.

Where do I tweak that ?
 
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Wed Feb 13 18:12:25 2019
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 17:12:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] Latest git - missing header file
In-Reply-To: <20190213004824.1021b5a9@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20190212222338.000018a4@prost.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20190213000055.28cc6ffe@penny>
 <20190213004824.1021b5a9@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20190213171225.00002576@prost.fenrir.org.uk>

On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 00:48:24 +0100
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 00:00:55 +0100
> Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hm, the litehtml plugin should have been automatically disabled if
> > configure did not find libgumbo, and you shouldn't have come across
> > this error.
> > 
> > Can you please send me the config.log file from your build, so that
> > I can look at what went wrong?
> >   
> Fixed in 6438002de
> 
> 

Thanks guys, I have now installed the gumbo-parser and
gumbo-parser-devel packages (Fedora 29) and CM correctly finds the
needed header files and everything builds correctly. Just need to fix
up my spec file to create the new plugin package.

Thanks for the help!

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Feb 14 11:23:12 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 10:23:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4154] New: Show when send message is encrypted - use
	colors
Message-ID: <bug-4154-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4154

            Bug ID: 4154
           Summary: Show when send message is encrypted - use colors
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.16.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Privacy/PGP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: zwinki2 at gmx.de

When sending an PGP encrypted message, one has to open the "options" menu to
see if it is encrypted or not. There should be some marker to see if encryption
and signing is active.

Also for received messages the interface could be improved. Kmail shows a blue
marging if a message is encrypted, green if correctly signed and the key is
known, yellow otherwise, and red if the is a signature error. Maybe you could
use a similar principle ...

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Feb 14 11:28:12 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 10:28:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4155] New: remember directory of last saving
Message-ID: <bug-4155-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4155

            Bug ID: 4155
           Summary: remember directory of last saving
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.16.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: zwinki2 at gmx.de

When storing a received mail with Ctrl+S, the directory of the last such action
is not remembered. I have to click on "last used" and then look which of the
numerous "tmp" entries was the right. Cumbersome, since I must store the mails
because of many several reasons (e.g., encrypted mails tortured by Outlook
which are not more recognized as encrypted, so I have to handle them with my
own script).

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Feb 14 11:38:00 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 10:38:00 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4154] Show when send message is encrypted - use colors
In-Reply-To: <bug-4154-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4154-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4154-595-M8uI5eSaWf@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4154

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID
           Severity|normal                      |enhancement

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Since 3.16.0 there are buttons in the Compose window, which clearly indicate
whether signing and encrypting are selected. Since then it was no longer
necessary to open the Options menu.

Messages which are received are clearly indicated and checked by the bar below
the message view, and the mime icons to the right of the message also clearly
indicate the status.

That is, all the indicators are there already.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Feb 14 11:42:34 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 10:42:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4155] remember directory of last saving
In-Reply-To: <bug-4155-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4155-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4155-595-VsbMb4tsRd@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4155

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Severity|normal                      |enhancement

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Probably a more suitable and easy to use option for your particular case is to
configure an Action to handle that operation. (/Configuration/Actions..),
though I agree that the last used directory should be remembered.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Feb 14 15:14:34 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:14:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4155] remember directory of last saving
In-Reply-To: <bug-4155-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4155-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4155-595-BFn2tbv1vG@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4155

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #2 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2019-02-14 15:13:04.318484705 +0100
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=e8df8623efe9da6b728765ff800780c420bb2aab
Author: Paul <paul at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Thu Feb 14 14:12:35 2019 +0000

    fix bug 4155, 'remember directory of last saving'

    drop messageview_save_as(), use only summary_save_as()

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From mail at leeunderwood.org  Thu Feb 14 19:53:08 2019
From: mail at leeunderwood.org (Lee Underwood)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 13:53:08 -0500
Subject: [Users] Update on HTML viewer?
Message-ID: <20190214135308.1746fc9d@lee-desktop2>

I was wondering if there was any update on an HTML viewer available for Claws Mail on Ubuntu 18.04?

Thanks!


From ms at kilabit.info  Thu Feb 14 20:31:04 2019
From: ms at kilabit.info (Shulhan)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 02:31:04 +0700
Subject: [Users] The message source is not end with CRLF
Message-ID: <3e533650-70cd-8d10-b50c-84411421cdab@kilabit.info>

Hi all,

I would like run some pre/post-processing tool (testing a DKIM library,

actually) for message, then I just realize that the message line ending

is converted to my local file format, which means CRLF at message field

is converted to LF.

Is there an option to disable this?

BTW, as long time users, I would like to say thank you for creating and

maintaining this software.

Regards,

Shulhan

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From krylov.r00t at gmail.com  Thu Feb 14 20:59:27 2019
From: krylov.r00t at gmail.com (Ivan Krylov)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 22:59:27 +0300
Subject: [Users] Synchronizing an MH directory
Message-ID: <20190214225927.3eb3453b@Tarkus>

Hi!

One of my mail accounts is on a server with relatively little storage.
I have multiple computers with Claws Mail installed. I would like to
store the mail from this server on all my machines. Other files are
synchronized between them using Unison [*], so I thought I could try
adding the MH directory to the list of synchronized files.

First of all, I had to set Unison to ignore .claws_* files, because
they are frequently changed and binary, making merging very hard if not
impossible. (I might be able to set Unison to always silently prefer the
newer version of a file on conflict, but I'm not sure it wouldn't crash
Claws Mail.)

The e-mail server offers both POP and IMAP. Since removing mail on the
server would cause removing it in IMAP the client, too, I used POP
access.

If I instruct Claws to remove the mail from the server immediately,
everything works relatively well (Claws notices new files in the MH
directory when I click on Inbox). This leaves a small window of time
between getting an e-mail and synchronizing it to the other machines
when one misbehaving computer might destroy it altogether.

Being a bit paranoid, I tried to switch the delete timeout to 14 days
(to keep one more copy on the server just in case), but that caused
duplicate e-mails to appear in the mailbox: one copy would be freshly
downloaded from another machine and the other would be downloaded from
the e-mail server. I could press Tools/Remove duplicates when that
happens or even try to set up Claws to do that every time after
checking e-mail, but I'm a bit wary of this option too.

Has anyone else tried to set up a workflow like I'm trying to? Can I
have my cake (relatively painless synchronization of MH directories)
and eat it too (keep mail on the POP server for a while)?

-- 
Best regards,
Ivan

[*] https://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/


From ricardo at mones.org  Fri Feb 15 08:43:01 2019
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 08:43:01 +0100
Subject: [Users] Update on HTML viewer?
In-Reply-To: <20190214135308.1746fc9d@lee-desktop2>
References: <20190214135308.1746fc9d@lee-desktop2>
Message-ID: <20190215074301.lyhjgbxgscwlj4wr@curuxu>

On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 01:53:08PM -0500, Lee Underwood wrote:
> I was wondering if there was any update on an HTML viewer available
> for Claws Mail on Ubuntu 18.04?

None that we're aware of.

regards,
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From mail at leeunderwood.org  Fri Feb 15 18:35:56 2019
From: mail at leeunderwood.org (Lee Underwood)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 12:35:56 -0500
Subject: [Users] Update on HTML viewer?
In-Reply-To: <20190215074301.lyhjgbxgscwlj4wr@curuxu>
References: <20190214135308.1746fc9d@lee-desktop2>
 <20190215074301.lyhjgbxgscwlj4wr@curuxu>
Message-ID: <20190215123556.38c1246d@lee-desktop2>

Thanks!



On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 01:53:08PM -0500, Lee Underwood wrote:
> > I was wondering if there was any update on an HTML viewer available
> > for Claws Mail on Ubuntu 18.04?  
> 
> None that we're aware of.
> 
> regards,
> -- 
>   Ricardo Mones 
>   ~
>   bash: ./signature: No such file or directory              /bin/bash
> 



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Feb 16 10:27:18 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 09:27:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4156] New: filtering messages received in Junk/Spam
	folder ASAP
Message-ID: <bug-4156-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4156

            Bug ID: 4156
           Summary: filtering messages received in Junk/Spam folder ASAP
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: other
          Hardware: All
                OS: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders/IMAP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: anfi at onet.eu

I would like to filter messages delivered to IMAP's Junk/Spam folder just like
messages delivered to INBOX folder.

Sporadically the mail server delivers some ham messages to Junk/Spam folder.
The messages are "obvious ham" to my personal Bayes classifier (bogofilter).
I would like to be able to move such messages from Junk/Spam folder to INBOX
ASAP [without entering Junk/Spam folder in GUI].

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Feb 16 11:37:48 2019
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 10:37:48 -0000
Subject: [Users] Tweak needed
In-Reply-To: <20190213084511.666838af@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
References: <20190213084511.666838af@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
Message-ID: <20190216103748.789269b2@localhost>

On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 08:45:11 -0300
"Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" <renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org> wrote: 

> Where do I tweak that ?

From the release notes of version 3.13.1:

* A hidden pref has been added, 'next_on_delete'. This controls the
  message selection when a message is deleted. A setting of '0'
  which cause the previous, older message to be selected, a setting
  of '1' will cause the next, newer message to be selected.

If you want to know something more about hidden preferences, see the
manual:
https://claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html#adv_hidden

It's always worth reading the release notes when upgrading.
https://claws-mail.org/NEWS

with regards

Paul


From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org  Sat Feb 16 14:14:19 2019
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 10:14:19 -0300
Subject: [Users] Tweak needed
In-Reply-To: <20190216103748.789269b2@localhost>
References: <20190213084511.666838af@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
 <20190216103748.789269b2@localhost>
Message-ID: <20190216101419.2642cffa@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>

On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 10:37:48 -0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> If you want to know something more about hidden preferences, see the
> manual:
> https://claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html#adv_hidden
 
Thank you for that info; much needed ! 

Where is Clawsker nowadays when you need it ?

> It's always worth reading the release notes when upgrading.
> https://claws-mail.org/NEWS

Well, you know how it is when the cron-job during the night does an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade...
 
;-3)

Cheers,
 
Ron.
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From mir at miras.org  Sat Feb 16 14:32:51 2019
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 14:32:51 +0100
Subject: [Users] Tweak needed
In-Reply-To: <20190216101419.2642cffa@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
References: <20190213084511.666838af@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
 <20190216103748.789269b2@localhost>
 <20190216101419.2642cffa@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
Message-ID: <20190216143251.430d800a@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 10:14:19 -0300
"Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" <renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org> wrote:

> 
> Where is Clawsker nowadays when you need it ?
> 
https://debian.pkgs.org/10/debian-main-i386/clawsker_1.3.1-1_all.deb.html

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Feb 17 13:24:28 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 12:24:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4157] New: Sudden CPU spike while receiving mail.
Message-ID: <bug-4157-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4157

            Bug ID: 4157
           Summary: Sudden CPU spike while receiving mail.
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.17.3
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: iivxx at xxvii.st

(Chose 'Other' since I'm unsure what component is causing me trouble).

Sometimes when receiving when Claws-Mail I experience CPU spikes. Occasionally
the program complete freezes, others I'm able to stop it while trying to
navigate the GUI. While I haven't been able to discern a definite pattern I'm
suspect it has something to do with this:

"file-utils.c:58:TIMING safe_fclose : 0s033ms
file-utils.c:133:/usr/bin/shred /home/mrtea/.claws-mail/tmp/claws-crashed
exited with status 0
file-utils.c:133:/usr/bin/shred /home/mrtea/.claws-mail/tmp/tmpfile.00000005
exited with status 0
file-utils.c:133:/usr/bin/shred
/home/mrtea/.claws-mail/mimetmp/00000001.245601_721685.pdf exited with status 0
file-utils.c:133:/usr/bin/shred
/home/mrtea/.claws-mail/mimetmp/0000000a.mimetmp.html exited with status 0
file-utils.c:133:/usr/bin/shred
/home/mrtea/.claws-mail/mimetmp/00000009.mimetmp.html exited with status 0
file-utils.c:133:/usr/bin/shred
/home/mrtea/.claws-mail/mimetmp/00000002.245601_721685.pdf exited with status
0"

This might be complete out of left field, but I can't get the Dillo plugin to
work. Since I can't I just open HTML-messages I just open these in Dillo
externally. While I can't say that it has happened every time, it seems like to
happen more often when I'm using Dillo while receiving e-mail.


I'm on Debian (Stretch) and this seem to have started happening while upgrading
from a previous Claws version. Might have to do with Debian, so I'll provide
more info it proves to be strictly Claws related.

// J.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Feb 17 13:32:03 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 12:32:03 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4157] Sudden CPU spike while receiving mail.
In-Reply-To: <bug-4157-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4157-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4157-595-JHEtxIowei@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4157

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Turn off 'Use secure file deletion if possible'
(/Configuration/Preferences/Other/Miscellaneous), and see if that stops the cpu
spike.

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From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org  Sun Feb 17 17:04:59 2019
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 13:04:59 -0300
Subject: [Users] Tweak needed
In-Reply-To: <20190216143251.430d800a@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20190213084511.666838af@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
 <20190216103748.789269b2@localhost>
 <20190216101419.2642cffa@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
 <20190216143251.430d800a@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20190217130459.50217076@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>

On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 14:32:51 +0100
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> > Where is Clawsker nowadays when you need it ?

> https://debian.pkgs.org/10/debian-main-i386/clawsker_1.3.1-1_all.deb.html

Thanks; helped me find the latest rpm to install in my distro.
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
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From ms at kilabit.info  Mon Feb 18 07:22:15 2019
From: ms at kilabit.info (Shulhan)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 13:22:15 +0700
Subject: [Users] The message source is not end with CRLF
In-Reply-To: <3e533650-70cd-8d10-b50c-84411421cdab@kilabit.info>
References: <3e533650-70cd-8d10-b50c-84411421cdab@kilabit.info>
Message-ID: <3ff4f3cb-85ab-a207-fdfc-cc4fbde16b1c@kilabit.info>



On 15/02/2019 02:31, Shulhan wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I would like run some pre/post-processing tool (testing a DKIM library,
> 
> actually) for message, then I just realize that the message line ending
> 
> is converted to my local file format, which means CRLF at message field
> 
> is converted to LF.
> 
> Is there an option to disable this?
> 
> BTW, as long time users, I would like to say thank you for creating and
> 
> maintaining this software.
> 

Forgot to mention that I use Claws at master branch 7216545e9 on Linux 
64bit machine.


From gio.duemila at yandex.com  Mon Feb 18 22:23:36 2019
From: gio.duemila at yandex.com (Giuseppe Dibello)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 22:23:36 +0100
Subject: [Users] change color skin
Message-ID: <20190218222336.7c74b2cd@EEE-Pc>

Hi, is it possible to change the general grey color of the skin? I
searched into the plugins but there are only buttons available. Thank
you eventually.


From mark+claws at carnildo.com  Mon Feb 18 23:27:30 2019
From: mark+claws at carnildo.com (Mark Wagner)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 14:27:30 -0800
Subject: [Users] change color skin
In-Reply-To: <20190218222336.7c74b2cd@EEE-Pc>
References: <20190218222336.7c74b2cd@EEE-Pc>
Message-ID: <20190218142730.624b87c1@puma.carnildo.com>

On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 22:23:36 +0100
Giuseppe Dibello <gio.duemila at yandex.com> wrote:

> Hi, is it possible to change the general grey color of the skin? I
> searched into the plugins but there are only buttons available. Thank
> you eventually.

Claws uses your global color settings.  I don't think it's possible to
color it independently of the rest of your desktop environment.

-- 
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Feb 18 23:35:10 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 22:35:10 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4155] remember directory of last saving
In-Reply-To: <bug-4155-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4155-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4155-595-HbYNrcbt0w@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4155

--- Comment #3 from KDEuser <zwinki2 at gmx.de> ---
Thank you for the quick fix - it works!

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Feb 18 23:44:03 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 22:44:03 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4154] Show when send message is encrypted - use colors
In-Reply-To: <bug-4154-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4154-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4154-595-dndszCT3UB@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4154

--- Comment #2 from KDEuser <zwinki2 at gmx.de> ---
Created attachment 1956
  -->
https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1956&action=edit
compose window with encrypted message

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Feb 18 23:46:12 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 22:46:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4154] Show when send message is encrypted - use colors
In-Reply-To: <bug-4154-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4154-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4154-595-swj30NRDu5@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4154

--- Comment #3 from KDEuser <zwinki2 at gmx.de> ---
Sorry, my comment was lost: The attachment in the last comment is my compose
window for an encrypted message (freshly compiled version 3.17.3git101 on
OpenSuse Leap 15.0) - I never saw any icon indicating enryption ...

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From subscript at free.fr  Tue Feb 19 08:31:39 2019
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 08:31:39 +0100
Subject: [Users] change color skin
In-Reply-To: <20190218142730.624b87c1@puma.carnildo.com>
References: <20190218222336.7c74b2cd@EEE-Pc>
 <20190218142730.624b87c1@puma.carnildo.com>
Message-ID: <20190219083139.77664f59@ladybug>

Hello,


On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 14:27:30 -0800 Mark Wagner <mark+claws at carnildo.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 22:23:36 +0100
> Giuseppe Dibello <gio.duemila at yandex.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi, is it possible to change the general grey color of the skin? I
> > searched into the plugins but there are only buttons available. Thank
> > you eventually.  
> 
> Claws uses your global color settings.  I don't think it's possible to
> color it independently of the rest of your desktop environment.

It does, as other GTK apps do, using GTK themes (either globally, i.e.
at desktop level, or using ~/.claws-mail/gtkrc-2.0).


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Feb 19 08:48:52 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 07:48:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4154] Show when send message is encrypted - use colors
In-Reply-To: <bug-4154-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4154-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4154-595-gLDZk0dWtZ@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4154

--- Comment #4 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Your screen shot does not show an encrypted message, it shows a message which
is going to be encrypted.

When I said, "Since 3.16.0 there are buttons in the Compose window", that was
not 100% correct. They are available since 3.16.0, but you must add them via
/Configuration/Preferences/Toolbars/Compose Window.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Feb 19 09:39:27 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 08:39:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4154] Show when send message is encrypted - use colors
In-Reply-To: <bug-4154-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4154-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4154-595-drlBrdHMxz@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4154

--- Comment #5 from KDEuser <zwinki2 at gmx.de> ---
Ah, great, it works! Thanks!
No so easy to find :-(

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From dave at howorth.org.uk  Tue Feb 19 13:26:53 2019
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 12:26:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] change color skin
In-Reply-To: <20190219083139.77664f59@ladybug>
References: <20190218222336.7c74b2cd@EEE-Pc>
 <20190218142730.624b87c1@puma.carnildo.com>
 <20190219083139.77664f59@ladybug>
Message-ID: <20190219122653.45c5cb18@acer-suse.lan>

On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 08:31:39 +0100
wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 14:27:30 -0800 Mark Wagner
> <mark+claws at carnildo.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 22:23:36 +0100
> > Giuseppe Dibello <gio.duemila at yandex.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > Hi, is it possible to change the general grey color of the skin? I
> > > searched into the plugins but there are only buttons available.
> > > Thank you eventually.    
> > 
> > Claws uses your global color settings.  I don't think it's possible
> > to color it independently of the rest of your desktop environment.  
> 
> It does, as other GTK apps do, using GTK themes (either globally, i.e.
> at desktop level, or using ~/.claws-mail/gtkrc-2.0).

Fascinating. I just created ~/.claws-mail/gtkrc-2.0 and put this in it:

style "default-style"
{
	# set the background to orange
        bg[NORMAL] = "#ffa500"
}

class "GtkWidget" style "default-style"

Shows what's possible :)


From flyingrhino at orcon.net.nz  Wed Feb 20 09:02:10 2019
From: flyingrhino at orcon.net.nz (flyingrhino)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 21:02:10 +1300
Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?q?How_to_set_scroll_offset_setting_for_all_the_me?=
 =?utf-8?q?ssages_lists_=3F?=
Message-ID: <b86f86efc643c65230dd623c8b1b1eac@webmail.orcon.net.nz>

Hi,

Claws 3.16.0 on linux mint 18.3 .

Does anyone know how I can configure the scroll offset in the messages 
list?
Basically when I get towards the top or bottom of the message list I 
want it to scroll in that direction while still showing n messages above 
or below the highlighted line.

In VIM this is called:  set scrolloff=5

Does claws have a similar feature ?

Thanks.



From ticho at claws-mail.org  Wed Feb 20 10:11:28 2019
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 10:11:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] How to set scroll offset setting for all the messages
 lists ?
In-Reply-To: <b86f86efc643c65230dd623c8b1b1eac@webmail.orcon.net.nz>
References: <b86f86efc643c65230dd623c8b1b1eac@webmail.orcon.net.nz>
Message-ID: <20190220101128.0b7fe545@hiker>

On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 21:02:10 +1300
flyingrhino <flyingrhino at orcon.net.nz> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Claws 3.16.0 on linux mint 18.3 .
> 
> Does anyone know how I can configure the scroll offset in the
> messages list?
> Basically when I get towards the top or bottom of the message list I 
> want it to scroll in that direction while still showing n messages
> above or below the highlighted line.
> 
> In VIM this is called:  set scrolloff=5
> 
> Does claws have a similar feature ?

No, there is no such thing, at least not user-configurable.

The message list only has a simple "scroll a bit further if the row
after the newly selected one is not fully visible" functionality when
moving the cursor with arrow keys. See function
gtkut_ctree_node_move_if_on_the_edge() in src/gtk/gtkutils.c.

Regards,
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From edodd at billiau.net  Wed Feb 20 10:57:33 2019
From: edodd at billiau.net (Liz)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 20:57:33 +1100
Subject: [Users] Advice on configuring the From: header
In-Reply-To: <20190204075308.01ba4a5d@localhost>
References: <20190203115112.28aefa22@billiau.net>
 <20190204075308.01ba4a5d@localhost>
Message-ID: <20190220205733.36057bac@billiau.net>

On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 07:53:08 -0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 11:51:12 +1100
> Liz <edodd at billiau.net> wrote: 
> 
> > Would a "Compose" template for the account do this for me?  
> 
> No, the Templates in the Account preferences do not offer the From
> header.
> 
> However, either the general Templates (/Configuration/Templates) and
> the folder Templates (right-click folder, choose 'Properties') do.
> 
> So, for example, if you filter those ml msgs to a certain folder, you
> can set a Template for that folder.
> 
> Alternately, as has already been suggested, you can create an
> SMTP-only account. Filtering those ml msg to a folder and setting
> this new account as the default account in the folder properties
> would automate that.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
>

Thanks everyone for your ideas. I have successfully posted to the new
email group and had replies.

Liz


From gio.duemila at yandex.com  Wed Feb 20 12:55:43 2019
From: gio.duemila at yandex.com (Giuseppe Dibello)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 12:55:43 +0100
Subject: [Users] change color skin
Message-ID: <20190220125543.09f1df0a@EEE-Pc>

Has it runned on your computer? I have a snap installation of Claws
Mail, I created a file "default-style.css" putting it into
"home/claws-mail-moon127/gtkrc-2.0" folder but, restarting the
computer, the software appears always grey and the only effect has been
the disappearence of the arrow of the mouse. There's something wrong.
The folder ".claws-mail" appears to be yet created but, searching for
it, it doesn't appears. 


From subscript at free.fr  Wed Feb 20 13:48:08 2019
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 13:48:08 +0100
Subject: [Users] change color skin
In-Reply-To: <20190220125543.09f1df0a@EEE-Pc>
References: <20190220125543.09f1df0a@EEE-Pc>
Message-ID: <20190220134808.7621c941@ladybug>

Hello Giuseppe,


On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 12:55:43 +0100 Giuseppe Dibello <gio.duemila at yandex.com> wrote:

> Has it runned on your computer? I have a snap installation of Claws
> Mail, I created a file "default-style.css" putting it into
> "home/claws-mail-moon127/gtkrc-2.0" folder but, restarting the
> computer, the software appears always grey and the only effect has been
> the disappearence of the arrow of the mouse. There's something wrong.
> The folder ".claws-mail" appears to be yet created but, searching for
> it, it doesn't appears. 

CSS? gtkrc files have nothing to do with CSS.


Regards,

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Feb 20 14:12:46 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 13:12:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2371] Port to GTK+3.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-2371-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2371-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2371-595-b51BglnLzh@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2371

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Created attachment 1957
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fancy plugin "cid:" handler and POC of web extension

Implemented "cid:", "mid:" handlers.
Adden a proof of concept web extension for filtering content loaded (filtering
not implemented).

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Feb 20 14:20:16 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 13:20:16 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2371] Port to GTK+3.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-2371-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2371-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2371-595-im77uS09fg@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2371

tonich.sh at gmail.com changed:

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From littlergirl at gmail.com  Wed Feb 20 14:20:33 2019
From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 08:20:33 -0500
Subject: [Users] change color skin
In-Reply-To: <20190220125543.09f1df0a@EEE-Pc>
References: <20190220125543.09f1df0a@EEE-Pc>
Message-ID: <5c6d543f.1c69fb81.aff60.1e59@mx.google.com>

Hey there,

Giuseppe Dibello wrote:

>Has it runned on your computer? I have a snap installation of Claws
>Mail, I created a file "default-style.css" putting it into
>"home/claws-mail-moon127/gtkrc-2.0" folder but, restarting the
>computer, the software appears always grey and the only effect has
>been the disappearence of the arrow of the mouse. There's something
>wrong. The folder ".claws-mail" appears to be yet created but,
>searching for it, it doesn't appears. 

Instead of using the default-style.css file to style Claws Mail,
you'll be using the gtkrc-2.0 file.

That file must be created inside of the hidden .claws-mail directory
inside your home directory. The dot at the beginning of its name
means it's a hidden directory. To see that directory, turn on display
of hidden files in your file manager (probably in the View menu).

As an example, if your username is gio, you'd put the gtkrc-2.0 file
into the /home/gio/.claws-mail directory.

Once you've created it, you'll want to edit it and put one or more
theming rules in it. If you use the contents of the example David
Howorth shared yesterday and then open Claws Mail, its background will
be orange. Here are those contents again:

style "default-style"
{
        # set the background to orange
        bg[NORMAL] = "#ffa500"
}

class "GtkWidget" style "default-style"

You can change #ffa500 to whatever color you like. Also, for more
styling options, the GNOME wiki has a tutorial on GTK theming here:

https://wiki.gnome.org/Attic/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GtkThemes

-- 
Little Girl

There is no spoon.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Feb 20 18:02:59 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 17:02:59 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4157] Sudden CPU spike while receiving mail.
In-Reply-To: <bug-4157-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4157-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4157-595-EMAfpZFgTf@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4157

--- Comment #2 from iivxx at xxvii.st ---
The thought has crossed my mind to do that. Seeing as my e-mail habits have
stayed the same, and I've had it turned on for 3-4 years, it really seems odd
that I've never experienced this before.

That's why I felt that it might be relevant for the developers to know this.
Could be something strictly on my end, but I wanted to mention it at least. "If
it's happening to me it'll probably happen to others."

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Feb 20 18:21:52 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 17:21:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4157] Sudden CPU spike when using secure deletion
In-Reply-To: <bug-4157-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4157-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4157-595-sjpaUznLhu@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4157

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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            Summary|Sudden CPU spike while      |Sudden CPU spike when using
                   |receiving mail.             |secure deletion

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From flyingrhino at orcon.net.nz  Wed Feb 20 20:45:12 2019
From: flyingrhino at orcon.net.nz (flyingrhino)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 08:45:12 +1300
Subject: [Users]
 =?utf-8?q?How_to_set_scroll_offset_setting_for_all_the_me?=
 =?utf-8?q?ssages_lists_=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <20190220101128.0b7fe545@hiker>
References: <b86f86efc643c65230dd623c8b1b1eac@webmail.orcon.net.nz>
 <20190220101128.0b7fe545@hiker>
Message-ID: <344ebab0350839e456481c4e065c9413@webmail.orcon.net.nz>

On 2019-02-20 22:11, Andrej Kacian wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 21:02:10 +1300
> flyingrhino <flyingrhino at orcon.net.nz> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Claws 3.16.0 on linux mint 18.3 .
>> 
>> Does anyone know how I can configure the scroll offset in the
>> messages list?
>> Basically when I get towards the top or bottom of the message list I
>> want it to scroll in that direction while still showing n messages
>> above or below the highlighted line.
>> 
>> In VIM this is called:  set scrolloff=5
>> 
>> Does claws have a similar feature ?
> 
> No, there is no such thing, at least not user-configurable.
> 
> The message list only has a simple "scroll a bit further if the row
> after the newly selected one is not fully visible" functionality when
> moving the cursor with arrow keys. See function
> gtkut_ctree_node_move_if_on_the_edge() in src/gtk/gtkutils.c.
> 
> Regards,

Thanks for the quick response.
Is it something that I can make a feature request for?
I think even a config file variable is perfectly ok, it doesn't need to 
be in the GUI. Something similar to the hidden configs that are already 
present in claws.

Regards.




From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Feb 21 01:05:00 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 00:05:00 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4158] New: ERR [AUTH] Web login required:
 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754
Message-ID: <bug-4158-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4158

            Bug ID: 4158
           Summary: ERR [AUTH] Web login required:
                    https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.17.3
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 10
            Status: NEW
          Severity: blocker
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: willy.sagenhaft at googlemail.com

Created attachment 1959
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There You are the Error Protocoll

Hello,

the whole day I tried to solve this problem.

There is absolutely no result from Google when entering this code above for
searching. 

I updated claws Mail vom 3.13.1 to 3.17.3 and looked around on Youtube to get
any useful hind.

No chance. Nothing works.

Even the simple screenshot of a googlemail.com to claws mail configuration
could help. But all I found was that old, nobody can use it with the new
version.

Please give me a helping hand.

As an attachment there is a screenshot from the error report.

Best regards

- Eric -

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Feb 21 08:13:47 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 07:13:47 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4158] ERR [AUTH] Web login required:
 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754
In-Reply-To: <bug-4158-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4158-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4158-595-3SsJy2YBhA@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4158

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
This is not a support forum, it is  bug tracker. Please use either the users'
mailing list or IRC for future support queries. Details here:
https://www.claws-mail.org/MLs.php

If you search on a search engine (rather than youtube) for "gmail web login
required", you can find many such queries and solutions. For example,
http://blog.replymanager.com/2013/09/how-to-address-gmail-error-web-login.html
gives some hints in resolving the issue, but you can find several other places
offering solutions too here: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=gmail+web+login+required

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Feb 21 08:15:30 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 07:15:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4158] ERR [AUTH] Web login required:
 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754
In-Reply-To: <bug-4158-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4158-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4158-595-W6KrHNj6uV@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4158

--- Comment #2 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
BTW, https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754 actually seems to provide
solutions.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Feb 22 14:25:25 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 13:25:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4159] New: Decryption Oracle based on replying to PGP
 or S/MIME encrypted emails
Message-ID: <bug-4159-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4159

            Bug ID: 4159
           Summary: Decryption Oracle based on replying to PGP or S/MIME
                    encrypted emails
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.14.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Privacy/PGP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: jens.a.mueller+claws at rub.de

In the scope of academic research in cooperation with Ruhr-Uni Bochum and FH
Münster, Germany we discovered a security issue in Claws: An attacker who is in
possession of PGP encrypted messages can append them to her own text. If the
victim replies, the plaintext is leaked to an attacker's email address.

-----------------------------------
*Leaking plaintext through replies*
-----------------------------------

/Attacker model/: Attacker is in possession of PGP encrypted messages, which
she may have obtained as passive man-in-the-middle or by actively hacking into
the victim's mail server or gateway

/Attacker's goal/: Leak the plaintext by wrapping the ciphertext within a
benign-looking email sent to and decrypted+replied to by the victim

/Attack outline:/ If Claws receives a text/plain email as depicted below, it
decrypt the ciphertext part(s), and shows it together with the
attacker-controlled text (which may be prepended and/or appended).

[Attacker's text]
-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
[Unknown ciphertext]
-----END PGP MESSAGE-----
[Some more attacker's text]

A benign-looking attacker's text may lure the victim into replying. Because the
decrypted text is also quoted in the reply, the user unintentionally acts as a
decryption oracle. To obfuscate the existence of the encrypted text, the
attacker may add a lot of newlines or hide it within a long conversation
history. A user replying to such a ‘mixed content’ conversation thereby leaks
the plaintext of encrypted messages wrapped within attacker-controlled text.
This attack works for PGP/INLINE and PGP/MIME captured ciphertexts because
PGP/INLINE can be downgraded to PGP/MIME.

Another option to perform the attack is by using multipart emails with PGP or
S/MIME encrypted parts, as depicted below:

multipart/mixed
   |--- Attacker's part
   |--- [encrypted part]
   +--- Attacker's part

Again, Claws decrypts the ciphertext part(s), together with the
attacker-controlled text. However, the only the first part is included in the
reply (unless the user marks then whole message text). This attack works for
PGP/MIME and S/MIME captured ciphertext.

---------------
Countermeasures
---------------

Do not decrypt encrypted emails unless there is only one single encrypted
text/part.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Feb 22 14:27:41 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 13:27:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4159] Decryption Oracle based on replying to PGP or
 S/MIME encrypted emails
In-Reply-To: <bug-4159-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4159-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4159-595-yFnbzjRxna@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4159

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Proof-of-concept PGP

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Feb 22 14:28:34 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 13:28:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4159] Decryption Oracle based on replying to PGP or
 S/MIME encrypted emails
In-Reply-To: <bug-4159-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4159-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4159-595-59mNoz6EYM@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4159

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Proof-of-concept S/MIME

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Feb 23 15:23:01 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 14:23:01 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4160] New: Default thread view cannot be changed
Message-ID: <bug-4160-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4160

            Bug ID: 4160
           Summary: Default thread view cannot be changed
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.17.3
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: spam at cogit.net

Default thread view remains set to threaded and cannot be changed. When the
user deactivates the default thread view, Claws Mail activates it again.

Preferences -> Display -> Summaries -> Defaults -> New folders -> Thread view

My system:

Operating system           : Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 
OS version                 : 6.1.7601
Service pack major version : 1
Service pack minor version : 0
Free physical memory       : 8836936
Total physical memory      : 17052119040
PC manufacturer            : TOSHIBA
PC model                   : PORTEGE R930
CPU                        : Intel64 Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9
OS bitness                 : 64
CPU bitness                : 64
BIOS manufacturer          : TOSHIBA
BIOS name                  : Default System BIOS
BIOS version               : Version 6.80  
Motherboard manufacturer   : TOSHIBA
Motherboard product        : PORTEGE R930
Motherboard version        : Version A0
Display                    : Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
Display width              : 1024
Display height             : 768
DPI                        : 120

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Feb 24 11:42:36 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 10:42:36 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4160] Default thread view cannot be changed
In-Reply-To: <bug-4160-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4160-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4160-595-cZpKV8emLq@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4160

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
already fixed in git.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Feb 24 11:52:49 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 10:52:49 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4159] Decryption Oracle based on replying to PGP or
 S/MIME encrypted emails
In-Reply-To: <bug-4159-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4159-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4159-595-RJ2eznpDGY@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4159

--- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Just for clarification - by:
"[...] because PGP/INLINE can be downgraded to PGP/MIME."
               ^^^^^^^^                      ^^^^^^^^^^

did you mean the opposite?
"[...] because PGP/MIME can be downgraded to PGP/INLINE."
               ^^^^^^^^                      ^^^^^^^^^^

I can certainly reproduce this (and anyone working on this will have to
reproduce it with PGP message blocks encrypted to their secret keys), and agree
that this is an issue. I am however unsure how to best solve it without
blocking users from legitimate uses of inline PGP.

I think we should focus on the first described case (PGP/Inline), as I do not
consider the latter case (plaintext leak via PGP/Mime and PGP/SMIME replies)
really a leak - if the user explicitly selects the decrypted plaintext for
inclusion into a reply, it is reasonable to assume that they want to include it
there.

Ideas:
1. Require that a PGP/Inline message is at the very beginning of the message
body (or a text/plain message part), otherwise do not even attempt to decrypt
it.

This is rather easy to implement, and would be an ideal solution if we could
assume that users always want to protect the entire message body, and not just
some critical part in the middle (something analogous to
"[spoiler]...[/spoiler]" tags on various web forums). Admittedly, that sort of
usage is probably quite rare, but possible.

2. Display a warning dialog on starting a reply if the quoted text would
include a mix of unencrypted and (originally) encrypted text, and let the user
decide how to proceed.

This would be slightly more difficult to implement, since at that point in the
code, the entire displayed content is already decrypted, and there is no
programmatic way to determine which portions were originally encrypted.
However, I think it could be done by adding GtkTextMarks around the decrypted
content when the message is being decrypted and displayed.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Feb 24 13:45:34 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 12:45:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4160] Default thread view cannot be changed
In-Reply-To: <bug-4160-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4160-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4160-595-0cmoRPCfqW@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4160

Mike <spam at cogit.net> changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Mike <spam at cogit.net> ---
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Feb 24 15:45:39 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 14:45:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4159] Decryption Oracle based on replying to PGP or
 S/MIME encrypted emails
In-Reply-To: <bug-4159-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4159-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4159-595-NUebq8wWFd@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4159

--- Comment #4 from Jens <jens.a.mueller+claws at rub.de> ---
> did you mean the opposite?
> "[...] because PGP/MIME can be downgraded to PGP/INLINE."
>                ^^^^^^^^                      ^^^^^^^^^^

Yes :)

As in: the attacker captures a PGP/MIME encrypted email (which should be more
common these days), but places it into the body of a text/plain message to
enforce the user agent to interpret it as PGP/INLINE.

Personally, I'm not a friend of letting users decide. Imho option 1) should be
fine, as no sane user agent should produce plaintext||pgp-inline-encrypted.
(However, copying + pasting ascii armored ciphertext and an additional text
could produce such a message. On the other hand, in such cases it can be
assumed that the communication partners want to manually encrypt/decrypt the
message on the command line anyway.)

One more thing to think about, in case option 1) is implemented, is that the
attacker can encrypt her text to:

-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
[Attacker's ciphertext]
-----END PGP MESSAGE-----
-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
[Unknown ciphertext]
-----END PGP MESSAGE-----

Therefore, only one single ascii armored data blob per message (or per MIME
part) should be accepted (again, no sane UA should produce multiple blobs
within one message part, correct?)


In any case, for Claws this issue is somewhat limited because it affects "only"
careless users who do not scroll down the entire communication history. In
various other email clients, the encrypted part can be completely hidden with
HTML/CSS when receiving and replying to a message which is much worse.

Therefore: Yet another good reason to *not* support HTML email :)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Feb 25 04:57:47 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 03:57:47 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4161] New: Regular expression \d does not work
Message-ID: <bug-4161-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4161

            Bug ID: 4161
           Summary: Regular expression \d does not work
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.17.3
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: spam at cogit.net

Filter for regular expression of "\d" does not work, but "[0-9]" does work.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Feb 25 18:15:59 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 17:15:59 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4162] New: Error upon saving an attachment: cannot
 open this location....
Message-ID: <bug-4162-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4162

            Bug ID: 4162
           Summary: Error upon saving an attachment: cannot open this
                    location....
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.17.3
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: spam at cogit.net

When I try to save an attachment, the following error message pops up.

"You can't open this location using this program. Please try a different
location."

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Feb 25 18:22:41 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 17:22:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4162] Error upon saving an attachment: cannot open
 this location....
In-Reply-To: <bug-4162-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4162-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4162-595-Sqm39pDRB5@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4162

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
why is that a bug?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Feb 25 18:41:55 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 17:41:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4162] Error upon saving an attachment: cannot open
 this location....
In-Reply-To: <bug-4162-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4162-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4162-595-LmhqOPBRlT@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4162

--- Comment #2 from Mike <spam at cogit.net> ---
I don't find any reason for this message to occur. The location is a normal
location, is writeable, and is not on a network or external drive. When the
message dialog is dismissed, everything else occurs normally.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Feb 25 22:23:55 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 21:23:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2371] Port to GTK+3.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-2371-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2371-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2371-595-EUmY9meBU8@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2371

--- Comment #66 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
(In reply to comment #65)
> Created attachment 1958 [details]
> fancy plugin "cid:" handler and POC of web extension

Um, I'm pretty sure we do not want webextensions in a simple HTML emails
rendering - that sounds like a recipe for security disasters.

The cid/mid handling stuff looks cool, though.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Feb 25 23:45:32 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 22:45:32 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4163] New: Selected menu items are obscured as black
 text on blue background with classic Windows theme
Message-ID: <bug-4163-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4163

            Bug ID: 4163
           Summary: Selected menu items are obscured as black text on blue
                    background with classic Windows theme
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.17.3
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: spam at cogit.net

When using a classic Windows theme without aero, selected menu items are
obscured because they are rendered as black text on a dark blue background.
Most other programs are able to avoid this problem by inverting the selected
text from black to white, so that selected items show in high contrast as white
on blue instead of black on blue.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Feb 25 23:55:24 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 22:55:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2108] Enhance "Wrap current paragraph"
In-Reply-To: <bug-2108-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2108-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2108-595-SIQg7ohAgP@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2108

--- Comment #1 from Mike <spam at cogit.net> ---
I agree! This is how various other programs (e.g., some text editors) wrap or
join lines.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Feb 26 09:08:58 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 08:08:58 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4163] Selected menu items are obscured as black text
 on blue background with classic Windows theme
In-Reply-To: <bug-4163-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4163-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4163-595-2RxiNRvJAy@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4163

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
that's a problem with the theme, not a bug of claws-mail

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Feb 26 12:25:34 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 11:25:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4163] Selected menu items are obscured as black text
 on blue background with classic Windows theme
In-Reply-To: <bug-4163-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4163-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4163-595-68FVmsOWe1@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4163

Mike <spam at cogit.net> changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Mike <spam at cogit.net> ---
The theme may be a suboptimal one, but there is also a way for most programs to
dodge the issue.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Feb 26 12:41:24 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 11:41:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4163] Selected menu items are obscured as black text
 on blue background with classic Windows theme
In-Reply-To: <bug-4163-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4163-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4163-595-zV5iTLfAri@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4163

--- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Yes, you can, by creating file "%APPDATA%\Claws-Mail\gtkrc-2.0" with following
content:

style "inverted-menu-fg" {
  fg[PRELIGHT] = "#ffffff"
}

widget_class "*.GtkMenu.*" style "inverted-menu-fg"



I'm considering hardcoding this style override into claws-mail.exe itself,
since this glitch is unlikely to ever be fixed in GTK. However, it is only
useful in the classic theme, and is in fact causing similar problem (this time
white text on light background) with the default Win7 aero theme, I don't think
it's a good idea.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Feb 26 12:49:56 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 11:49:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4163] Selected menu items are obscured as black text
 on blue background with classic Windows theme
In-Reply-To: <bug-4163-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4163-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4163-595-lbBgDsdJJ7@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4163

Mike <spam at cogit.net> changed:

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--- Comment #4 from Mike <spam at cogit.net> ---
Fabulous! Beautiful! It worked. 

Perhaps you could code it as an option for us old-timers! Actually, the old
theme is great and popular, which is why Microsoft has provided it for so many
years.

Thank you.

Mike

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Feb 26 13:11:21 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 12:11:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4163] Selected menu items are obscured as black text
 on blue background with classic Windows theme
In-Reply-To: <bug-4163-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4163-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4163-595-gLkPHwCfTh@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4163

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Feb 26 23:51:43 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 22:51:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2809] Save QuickSearch Search Rules
In-Reply-To: <bug-2809-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2809-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2809-595-riHkI3PXRh@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2809

--- Comment #1 from Mike <spam at cogit.net> ---
Would be great!

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Feb 27 09:55:25 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 08:55:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4161] Regular expression \d does not work
In-Reply-To: <bug-4161-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4161-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4161-595-d032LuhJqg@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4161

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
Filtering regexps are POSIX Extended¹, not Perl².
Use "[:digit:]" if you want to match a digit.

¹ http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/regex.7.html
² https://perldoc.perl.org/perlre.html

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Feb 27 13:31:07 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 12:31:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4161] Regular expression \d does not work
In-Reply-To: <bug-4161-595@https.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4161

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--- Comment #2 from Mike <spam at cogit.net> ---
Thanks!

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Feb 27 14:00:26 2019
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 13:00:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4161] Regular expression \d does not work
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