From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 2 12:48:53 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2018 10:48:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4085] New: Fancy.dll fails to load on updated OS
Message-ID:
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Bug ID: 4085
Summary: Fancy.dll fails to load on updated OS
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
Version: 3.16.0
Hardware: PC
OS: Windows 10
Status: NEW
Severity: major
Priority: P3
Component: default
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: gerard.seibert at gmail.com
Created attachment 1911
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Error Message
Windows 10 Pro / amd 64
Windows Evaluation Copy: Version 1809; OS Build 17744.1003
I just updated to the latest version of the Microsoft beta version. Suddenly,
the "fancy" plugin will no longer load. I did a complete removal of claws-mail
and then reinstalled it to no avail.
I have attached a screenshot of the error message when I attempt to load it.
The debug output follows:
C:\Users\Gerard>C:\Users\Gerard\Downloads\gdb.exe "C:\Program Files (x86)\Claws
Mail\claws-mail.exe"
This binary was built by Equation Solution .
GNU gdb (GDB) 7.12
Copyright (C) 2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type "show copying"
and "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "x86_64-w64-mingw32".
Type "show configuration" for configuration details.
For bug reporting instructions, please see:
.
Find the GDB manual and other documentation resources online at:
.
For help, type "help".
Type "apropos word" to search for commands related to "word"...
Reading symbols from C:\Program Files (x86)\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe...(no
debugging symbols found)...done.
(gdb) run
Starting program: C:\Program Files (x86)\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe
[New Thread 15820.0x2310]
warning: Can not parse XML library list; XML support was disabled at compile
time
[New Thread 15820.0x4498]
[New Thread 15820.0x4a88]
[New Thread 15820.0x42fc]
[New Thread 15820.0x20a8]
[New Thread 15820.0x1bc0]
[New Thread 15820.0x35ac]
[New Thread 15820.0x28e4]
[New Thread 15820.0x4170]
[New Thread 15820.0x4b34]
[New Thread 15820.0x22d8]
[Thread 15820.0x22d8 exited with code 0]
[New Thread 15820.0x38a4]
[Thread 15820.0x38a4 exited with code 0]
[New Thread 15820.0x3fb4]
[Thread 15820.0x3fb4 exited with code 0]
[New Thread 15820.0x39e4]
[Thread 15820.0x39e4 exited with code 0]
[New Thread 15820.0x31cc]
[Thread 15820.0x31cc exited with code 0]
[New Thread 15820.0x4b60]
[New Thread 15820.0x3708]
[New Thread 15820.0x2420]
[New Thread 15820.0x2dac]
[New Thread 15820.0x473c]
[New Thread 15820.0x3a60]
[New Thread 15820.0x493c]
[Thread 15820.0x493c exited with code 0]
[New Thread 15820.0x3088]
[New Thread 15820.0xfe4]
[New Thread 15820.0x2128]
[New Thread 15820.0x31c0]
[New Thread 15820.0x3e50]
[New Thread 15820.0x4b40]
[New Thread 15820.0x40f8]
[New Thread 15820.0x24a8]
[Thread 15820.0x4b40 exited with code 0]
[New Thread 15820.0x4088]
warning:
onecoreuap\shell\ext\thumbnailcache\lib\thumbcacheobj.cpp(2076)\thumbcache.dll!6495DDBA:
(caller: 6495DCC9) ReturnHr(1) tid(4b60) 80070057 The parameter is incorrect.
warning:
onecoreuap\shell\ext\thumbnailcache\lib\thumbcacheobj.cpp(2076)\thumbcache.dll!6495DDBA:
(caller: 6495DCC9) ReturnHr(2) tid(4b60) 80070057 The parameter is incorrect.
warning:
onecoreuap\shell\ext\thumbnailcache\lib\thumbcacheobj.cpp(2076)\thumbcache.dll!6495DDBA:
(caller: 6495DCC9) ReturnHr(3) tid(4b60) 80070057 The parameter is incorrect.
warning:
shell\explorerframe\nsccloudstateiconextractor.cpp(152)\explorerframe.dll!087E6575:
(caller: 087E644E) ReturnHr(1) tid(4b60) 80004005 Unspecified error
warning:
shell\explorerframe\nsccloudstateiconextractor.cpp(127)\explorerframe.dll!087E6484:
(caller: 087E65DE) ReturnHr(2) tid(4b60) 80004005 Unspecified error
warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(745)\SHELL32.dll!76AA4499: (caller:
76AA4516) ReturnHr(1) tid(1bc0) 80040154 Class not registered
warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(861)\SHELL32.dll!76AA455F: (caller:
76AA3E2C) LogHr(1) tid(1bc0) 80040154 Class not registered
Msg:[Creating icon overlay handler from Registry failed. The CLSID is
{C418E880-6280-4010-A888-FD76028E5511}.]
warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(745)\SHELL32.dll!76AA4499: (caller:
76AA4516) ReturnHr(2) tid(1bc0) 80040154 Class not registered
warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(861)\SHELL32.dll!76AA455F: (caller:
76AA3E2C) LogHr(2) tid(1bc0) 80040154 Class not registered
Msg:[Creating icon overlay handler from Registry failed. The CLSID is
{5F4A6070-DB92-4C56-A487-F3850430608F}.]
warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(745)\SHELL32.dll!76AA4499: (caller:
76AA4516) ReturnHr(3) tid(1bc0) 80040154 Class not registered
warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(861)\SHELL32.dll!76AA455F: (caller:
76AA3E2C) LogHr(3) tid(1bc0) 80040154 Class not registered
Msg:[Creating icon overlay handler from Registry failed. The CLSID is
{EE73A341-C788-4A6B-B1EF-DDBFC0F190B6}.]
warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(745)\SHELL32.dll!76AA4499: (caller:
76AA4516) ReturnHr(4) tid(1bc0) 80040154 Class not registered
warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(861)\SHELL32.dll!76AA455F: (caller:
76AA3E2C) LogHr(4) tid(1bc0) 80040154 Class not registered
Msg:[Creating icon overlay handler from Registry failed. The CLSID is
{28CDCD88-B179-49D6-8B21-1A9AF9C0AE13}.]
warning: [check]work statison:1
warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(745)\SHELL32.dll!76AA4499: (caller:
76AA4516) ReturnHr(5) tid(3088) 80040154 Class not registered
warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(861)\SHELL32.dll!76AA455F: (caller:
76AA3E2C) LogHr(5) tid(3088) 80040154 Class not registered
Msg:[Creating icon overlay handler from Registry failed. The CLSID is
{C418E880-6280-4010-A888-FD76028E5511}.]
warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(745)\SHELL32.dll!76AA4499: (caller:
76AA4516) ReturnHr(6) tid(3088) 80040154 Class not registered
warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(861)\SHELL32.dll!76AA455F: (caller:
76AA3E2C) LogHr(6) tid(3088) 80040154 Class not registered
Msg:[Creating icon overlay handler from Registry failed. The CLSID is
{5F4A6070-DB92-4C56-A487-F3850430608F}.]
warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(745)\SHELL32.dll!76AA4499: (caller:
76AA4516) ReturnHr(7) tid(3088) 80040154 Class not registered
warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(861)\SHELL32.dll!76AA455F: (caller:
76AA3E2C) LogHr(7) tid(3088) 80040154 Class not registered
Msg:[Creating icon overlay handler from Registry failed. The CLSID is
{EE73A341-C788-4A6B-B1EF-DDBFC0F190B6}.]
warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(745)\SHELL32.dll!76AA4499: (caller:
76AA4516) ReturnHr(8) tid(3088) 80040154 Class not registered
warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(861)\SHELL32.dll!76AA455F: (caller:
76AA3E2C) LogHr(8) tid(3088) 80040154 Class not registered
Msg:[Creating icon overlay handler from Registry failed. The CLSID is
{28CDCD88-B179-49D6-8B21-1A9AF9C0AE13}.]
warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(745)\SHELL32.dll!76AA4499: (caller:
76AA4516) ReturnHr(9) tid(fe4) 80040154 Class not registered
warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(861)\SHELL32.dll!76AA455F: (caller:
76AA3E2C) LogHr(9) tid(fe4) 80040154 Class not registered
Msg:[Creating icon overlay handler from Registry failed. The CLSID is
{C418E880-6280-4010-A888-FD76028E5511}.]
warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(745)\SHELL32.dll!76AA4499: (caller:
76AA4516) ReturnHr(10) tid(fe4) 80040154 Class not registered
warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(861)\SHELL32.dll!76AA455F: (caller:
76AA3E2C) LogHr(10) tid(fe4) 80040154 Class not registered
Msg:[Creating icon overlay handler from Registry failed. The CLSID is
{5F4A6070-DB92-4C56-A487-F3850430608F}.]
warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(745)\SHELL32.dll!76AA4499: (caller:
76AA4516) ReturnHr(11) tid(fe4) 80040154 Class not registered
warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(861)\SHELL32.dll!76AA455F: (caller:
76AA3E2C) LogHr(11) tid(fe4) 80040154 Class not registered
Msg:[Creating icon overlay handler from Registry failed. The CLSID is
{EE73A341-C788-4A6B-B1EF-DDBFC0F190B6}.]
warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(745)\SHELL32.dll!76AA4499: (caller:
76AA4516) ReturnHr(12) tid(fe4) 80040154 Class not registered
warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(861)\SHELL32.dll!76AA455F: (caller:
76AA3E2C) LogHr(12) tid(fe4) 80040154 Class not registered
Msg:[Creating icon overlay handler from Registry failed. The CLSID is
{28CDCD88-B179-49D6-8B21-1A9AF9C0AE13}.]
warning: file name is : C:\Users\Gerard\Desktop\Adobe Application Manager 9.0
warning: non offline file
warning: file name is : C:\Users\Gerard\Desktop\GPUCache
warning: non offline file
warning: file name is :
C:\Users\Gerard\Desktop\AllCommands.{ED7BA470-8E54-465E-825C-99712043E01C}
warning: non offline file
warning: file name is : C:\Users\Gerard\Desktop\Old Firefox Data
warning: non offline file
warning: file name is : C:\Users\Gerard\Desktop\Tor Browser
warning: non offline file
warning: file name is : C:\Program Files (x86)\Claws
Mail\lib\claws-mail\plugins\smime.deps
warning: non offline file
[Thread 15820.0x3708 exited with code 0]
[Thread 15820.0x4b60 exited with code 0]
warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]:
warning: Heap block at 03BDCDC0 modified at 03BDCDE2 past requested size of 1a
warning: file name is : C:\Program Files (x86)\Claws Mail\lib
warning: non offline file
warning: file name is : C:\Program Files (x86)\Claws
Mail\lib\claws-mail\plugins
warning: non offline file
warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]:
warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 023D0000, 04F518C8 )
warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]:
warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 023D0000, 04F518C8 )
warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]:
warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 023D0000, 04F51960 )
warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]:
warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 023D0000, 04F51960 )
Thread 1 received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x0000002b in ?? ()
(gdb) bt full
#0 0x0000002b in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
(gdb) quit
A debugging session is active.
Inferior 1 [process 15820] will be killed.
Quit anyway? (y or n) y
I have no idea what to do to correct this problem.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 2 13:27:24 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2018 11:27:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4085] Fancy.dll fails to load on updated OS
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4085
--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian ---
I saw this too on a devel build of Windows 10. I think you have to install the
Microsoft C++ Redistributable
(https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2977003/the-latest-supported-visual-c-downloads),
because for some reason, Microsoft decided it's a good idea to remove it.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 2 17:00:28 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2018 15:00:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4085] Fancy.dll fails to load on updated OS
In-Reply-To:
References:
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https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4085
--- Comment #2 from Gerard Seibert ---
I checked, and I do have all versions of Microsoft C++ Redistributable
installed. I tried the 64-bit version of claws-mail, but that exhibits the same
problem.
I think it is worth noting that only the "fancy.dll" module exhibits this
problem. The other modules work fine. I tried unloading and reloading them
without any problems.
Since I am beta testing for Microsoft, I could submit a detailed report to them
regarding this problem. However, I do not know exactly what to report. Since
claws-mail is not a Microsoft product, I think I would need to supply specific
documentation. Any ideas?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 2 20:29:14 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2018 18:29:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4085] Fancy.dll fails to load on updated OS
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References:
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--- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian ---
OK, it took a while to pinpoint what's missing, but copying the "Universal
CRT"[1] dll from Windows 10 SDK[2] makes Fancy work again on Win10.
The issue I'm seeing right now, is that now Fancy works even if the DLL is
removed again, even if the SDK is reinstalled, and the system rebooted. Good
old Microsoft making things murky.
Can you please install this SDK, check if Fancy loads after you copy
ucrtbase.dll to the Claws Mail install dir?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 2 21:50:48 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2018 19:50:48 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4085] Fancy.dll fails to load on updated OS
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--- Comment #4 from Gerard Seibert ---
There are several "ucrtbase.dll" in that SDK. Which one should I copy? I am
using the 64-bit claws-mail right now. Also, do I place it in the "C:\Program
Files\Claws Mail" directory or somewhere else?
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From sylpheed at 911networks.com Mon Sep 3 02:12:50 2018
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 17:12:50 -0700
Subject: [Users] Subject line
Message-ID: <20180902171250.44473323@frogguski.911networks.com>
CM 3.17.1 on Manjaro
I have received this promo email from Dell. The subject line has an
umbrella at the beginning of the subject line.
https://i.imgur.com/aFE51Jj.png
Which font/emoji is it? Which font/emoji I can select?
I'd love to put a small camera at the beginning of the subject line.
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From subscript at free.fr Mon Sep 3 02:26:58 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 02:26:58 +0200
Subject: [Users] Semi-OT: grammar/style checker
In-Reply-To: <20180831093823.39adeb7e@frogguski.911networks.com>
References: <20180831093823.39adeb7e@frogguski.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20180903022658.02d5ed5d@ladybug>
Hello,
On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 09:38:50 -0700 sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:
> CM 3.6.0 on Manjaro.
>
> My spell checker is working great, but is there some type of
> grammar/style checker that would work with CM?
>
> What are you guys using?
I can corroborate the global silence here: nothing. I'm not aware of
any piece of software that would do that work for you.
Regards,
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From subscript at free.fr Mon Sep 3 02:30:37 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 02:30:37 +0200
Subject: [Users] Subject line
In-Reply-To: <20180902171250.44473323@frogguski.911networks.com>
References: <20180902171250.44473323@frogguski.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20180903023037.3556fd59@ladybug>
Hello,
On Sun, 2 Sep 2018 17:12:50 -0700 sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:
> CM 3.17.1 on Manjaro
>
> I have received this promo email from Dell. The subject line has an
> umbrella at the beginning of the subject line.
>
> https://i.imgur.com/aFE51Jj.png
>
> Which font/emoji is it? Which font/emoji I can select?
>
> I'd love to put a small camera at the beginning of the subject line.
You'll have to use multi-byte characters (UTF-8) and a font that
proposes the symbol you want, not sure everyone will be able to read
what you send, it will depend on what font is used on your side, and
what font are used by readers.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 3 11:23:55 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 09:23:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4086] New: VCalendar invitation presented as "Error -
Unknown calendar component type."
Message-ID:
https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4086
Bug ID: 4086
Summary: VCalendar invitation presented as "Error - Unknown
calendar component type."
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail
Version: 3.17.0
Hardware: PC
OS: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: Plugins/vCalendar
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: rol at as2917.net
Claws 3.17.0, using libical 2.0.0, is presenting the invitations I received as
empty except for the Event: line that contaiins "Error - Unknown calendar
component type.".
I've started Claws in --debug mode. It displays:
procheader.c:155:generic_get_one_field: empty line
message/rfc822 (offset:0 length:7377 encoding: 6)
multipart/alternative (offset:2212 length:5165 encoding: 6)
text/plain (offset:2353 length:1 encoding: 3)
text/html (offset:2495 length:2356 encoding: 3)
text/calendar (offset:4997 length:2327 encoding: 4)
procheader.c:155:generic_get_one_field: empty line
mimeview.c:828:text/calendar
messageview.c:1289:found part 6/alternative
mimeview.c:828:text/calendar
mimeview.c:828:text/calendar
vcalendar.c:246:vcal_viewer_get_widget
vcalendar.c:852:vcal_viewer_show_mimepart : /home2/rol/Mail/Dossiers
personnels/Boite de reception/444542
vcalendar.c:255:vcal_viewer_clear_viewer
vcalendar.c:229:creating /home2/rol/.claws-mail/mimetmp/0000009e.mimetmp
vcal_folder.c:2184:Converting DTSTART to UTC.
vcal_folder.c:2200:Converting DTEND to UTC.
vcalendar.c:881:TIMING vcal_viewer_show_mimepart : 0s002ms
summaryview.c:3773:TIMING summary_display_msg_full : 0s006ms
and the file /home2/rol/.claws-mail/mimetmp/0000009e.mimetmp contains:
BEGIN:VCALENDAR
METHOD:REQUEST
PRODID:Microsoft Exchange Server 2010
VERSION:2.0
BEGIN:VTIMEZONE
TZID:Romance Standard Time
BEGIN:STANDARD
DTSTART:16010101T030000
TZOFFSETFROM:+0200
TZOFFSETTO:+0100
RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;INTERVAL=1;BYDAY=-1SU;BYMONTH=10
END:STANDARD
BEGIN:DAYLIGHT
DTSTART:16010101T020000
TZOFFSETFROM:+0100
TZOFFSETTO:+0200
RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;INTERVAL=1;BYDAY=-1SU;BYMONTH=3
END:DAYLIGHT
END:VTIMEZONE
BEGIN:VEVENT
ORGANIZER;CN=My Colleague:MAILTO:My.Colleague at xxxx.net
ATTENDEE;ROLE=REQ-PARTICIPANT;PARTSTAT=NEEDS-ACTION;RSVP=TRUE;CN=Paul Rolla
nd:MAILTO:rol at xxxx.net
DESCRIPTION;LANGUAGE=en-US:\n
UID:040000008200E00074C5B7101A82E00800000000A0D0F5287543D401000000000000000
010000000D29004CD1B9C5F4A97702C6FF336B1A5
SUMMARY;LANGUAGE=en-US:Points projets EU
DTSTART;TZID=Romance Standard Time:20180903T140000
DTEND;TZID=Romance Standard Time:20180903T153000
CLASS:PUBLIC
PRIORITY:5
DTSTAMP:20180903T085943Z
TRANSP:OPAQUE
STATUS:CONFIRMED
SEQUENCE:0
LOCATION;LANGUAGE=en-US:JP office
X-MICROSOFT-CDO-APPT-SEQUENCE:0
X-MICROSOFT-CDO-OWNERAPPTID:-1100769310
X-MICROSOFT-CDO-BUSYSTATUS:TENTATIVE
X-MICROSOFT-CDO-INTENDEDSTATUS:BUSY
X-MICROSOFT-CDO-ALLDAYEVENT:FALSE
X-MICROSOFT-CDO-IMPORTANCE:1
X-MICROSOFT-CDO-INSTTYPE:0
X-MICROSOFT-DONOTFORWARDMEETING:FALSE
X-MICROSOFT-DISALLOW-COUNTER:FALSE
BEGIN:VALARM
DESCRIPTION:REMINDER
TRIGGER;RELATED=START:-PT15M
ACTION:DISPLAY
END:VALARM
END:VEVENT
END:VCALENDAR
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 3 11:49:10 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 09:49:10 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4086] VCalendar invitation presented as "Error -
Unknown calendar component type."
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--- Comment #1 from wwp ---
I saved your sample to a test.vcal file and could subscribe to it w/o issue
(libical 2.0.0 here too).
Could you try saving to a local file and subscribe to it ?
(file:///tmp/test.vcal for instance)
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 3 12:01:41 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 10:01:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4086] VCalendar invitation presented as "Error -
Unknown calendar component type."
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https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4086
--- Comment #2 from Paul Rolland ---
Can you explain how to do the subscription to a local file using Claws ?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 3 12:15:26 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 10:15:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4086] VCalendar invitation presented as "Error -
Unknown calendar component type."
In-Reply-To:
References:
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https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4086
--- Comment #3 from wwp ---
Create a text file named /tmp/test.vcal, containing the VCALENDAR data (from
BEGIN:VCALENDAR to END:VCALENDAR). Once the file is created, right-click the
vCalendar node in CM, "Subscribe to Webcal..." and type this Webcal URL:
file:///tmp/test.vcal .
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 3 12:34:32 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 10:34:32 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4086] VCalendar invitation presented as "Error -
Unknown calendar component type."
In-Reply-To:
References:
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https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4086
Paul Rolland changed:
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--- Comment #4 from Paul Rolland ---
OK,did that. I now have a new item in my "vCalendar" item named: rol.vcal (the
name of the file I subscribed to).
Now, if I click on that item, Claws goes Segfault :(
mh.c:236:MH scan not required: /home2/rol/Mail/Dossiers personnels/Claws
(1535970488 <= 1535970488)
folder.c:2761:Save cache for folder #mh/Mailbox/Dossiers personnels/Claws
msgcache.c:1189: Writing message cache to (null) and (null)...
msgcache.c:1270:done.
msgcache.c:1271:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s000ms
mh.c:1474:MH: forced mtime of Claws to 1535970488
folder.c:1239:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:908:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service files
mh.c:236:MH scan not required: /home2/rol/Mail/Dossiers personnels/Claws
(1535970488 <= 1535970488)
msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
mh.c:1409:wrote unseen sequence: 'unseen: 45-101 117-122 124-127 129-216'
mh.c:1442:TIMING mh_write_sequences : 0s000ms
mh.c:1474:MH: forced mtime of Claws to 1535970625
folderview.c:2309:Folder .rol.vcal is selected
folderview.c:2325:Opening folder .rol.vcal...
folder.c:2179:Scanning folder .rol.vcal for cache changes.
vcal_folder.c:849: num for file:///tmp/rol.vcal
vcal_folder.c:501:fetching
[New Thread 0x7fffd338d700 (LWP 27853)]
[Thread 0x7fffd338d700 (LWP 27853) exited]
vcal_folder.c:2184:Converting DTSTART to UTC.
vcal_folder.c:2200:Converting DTEND to UTC.
vcal_folder.c:573:add 1 :
040000008200E00074C5B7101A82E00800000000A0D0F5287543D401000000000000000010000000D29004CD1B9C5F4A97702C6FF336B1A5
vcal_folder.c:679:return 3
folder.c:2265:Remembered message 1 for fetching
folder.c:2265:Remembered message 2 for fetching
vcal_folder.c:926:get_msginfo
vcal_folder.c:1010: fetch for file:///tmp/rol.vcal 2
codeconv.c:1520:current locale: en_US.UTF-8
vcal_folder.c:1000:feed item dump to
/home2/rol/.claws-mail/tmp/evt-1000-today-events at vcal
vcal_folder.c:909:parse_msg
procheader.c:155:generic_get_one_field: empty line
vcal_folder.c:945: adding 2
vcal_folder.c:950: got msginfo 0xf03e80
vcal_folder.c:926:get_msginfo
vcal_folder.c:1010: fetch for file:///tmp/rol.vcal 1
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
but I think I understand now why:
(gdb) where
#0 0x00007ffff2511c8a in strlen () at /lib64/libc.so.6
#1 0x00007ffff25119ae in strdup () at /lib64/libc.so.6
#2 0x00007fffd52f3d79 in icalvalue_as_ical_string_r () at /lib64/libical.so.1
#3 0x00007fffd52e874b in icalproperty_as_ical_string_r ()
at /lib64/libical.so.1
....
and it seems that this is using libical.so.1 instead of libical.so.2 :(
Back to my compilation to understand and fix...
really sorry for the noise !!!
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From nicolas.claws at iselin.ch Tue Sep 4 21:05:21 2018
From: nicolas.claws at iselin.ch (nicolas.claws at iselin.ch)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 21:05:21 +0200
Subject: [Users] Ubuntu bionic: HTML viewer plugin for Claws
Message-ID: <20180904210521.7514a133@iota>
Hi Claws-Team,
I am a happy user of Claws since years. I even persuaded my mom and my
dad that HTML-Mails are a bad thing and there is no need to create
them and so they are using Claws too. Unfortunately, they still receive
a lot of HTML-mails and the fancy plugin was a faithful companion for
years.
Now I am about to upgrade their machines to "bionic", the LTS release
from spring 2018.
As far as I have understood, fancy was relying on too old code and
availability on ubuntu stopped with xenial. I was happy to discover
that "claws-mail-dillo-viewer" is available for cosmic (see package
search below), but I really do need a HTML-Viewer for bionic.
Are there any plans to bring dillo to bionic (amd64) too? Is there a PPA
for it? Maybe it is possible use the cosmic deb source to backport it to
bionic?
I know that a simple double click on the icon for the HTML-Part
launches an external browser - but the plugin way would be much nicer.
Furthermore, I am able to use a compiler myself, but I do this about
once every second year, so I don't feel really safe at it...
Any hint appreciated :-)
Regards
Nicolas
Ubuntu Package search:
https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=claws-mail
From dave at dawoodfall.net Wed Sep 5 01:14:52 2018
From: dave at dawoodfall.net (David Woodfall)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 00:14:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] Problem with opening links in RSSyl
Message-ID: <20180905001452.2cd976fd@raven.thebigvoid.org>
Hi
I tend to be mouseless as much as possible and I can tab my way through the
links in a newsfeed item, but the problem is that when I use Shift + F10 to
bring up the right click menu, highlight 'open in browser' and press enter,
nothing happens.
It works fine with the mouse of course.
I've also tried using xdotool to do the same thing with the real mouse,
but that also fails.
Any ideas?
-Dave
From dave at dawoodfall.net Wed Sep 5 01:27:47 2018
From: dave at dawoodfall.net (David Woodfall)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 00:27:47 +0100
Subject: [Users] Header pane customisation?
Message-ID: <20180905002747.0e417573@raven.thebigvoid.org>
Is it possible to customise the small header pane above messages?
I'd like to add the date to it for newsfeeds if it's possible because
you don't see the feed date when you open a feed item in a window.
-Dave
From ticho at claws-mail.org Wed Sep 5 08:37:30 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 08:37:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] Problem with opening links in RSSyl
In-Reply-To: <20180905001452.2cd976fd@raven.thebigvoid.org>
References: <20180905001452.2cd976fd@raven.thebigvoid.org>
Message-ID: <20180905083730.5be60aa8@penny>
On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 00:14:52 +0100
David Woodfall wrote:
> Hi
>
> I tend to be mouseless as much as possible and I can tab my way through the
> links in a newsfeed item, but the problem is that when I use Shift + F10 to
> bring up the right click menu, highlight 'open in browser' and press enter,
> nothing happens.
>
> It works fine with the mouse of course.
>
> I've also tried using xdotool to do the same thing with the real mouse,
> but that also fails.
>
> Any ideas?
You should run "claws-mail --debug" in a terminal, and observe the
output when you activate the "open in browser" menu item like you
described. It should print exact command that it's trying to start the
browser with, and you can troubleshoot from there.
Regards,
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From ricardo at mones.org Wed Sep 5 10:57:17 2018
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 10:57:17 +0200
Subject: [Users] Format of extraheaderrc
In-Reply-To: <20180831202923.75dd0bdd@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20180831125534.21304f5a.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
<20180831142923.7eae28f8.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
<20180831150009.00007a6a@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20180831161639.2f7edcdb.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
<20180831191522.659b21aa@busgosu>
<20180831202923.75dd0bdd@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20180905085717.y5fnz66gsguiskf2@busgosu>
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 08:29:23PM +0100, Dave Howorth wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 19:15:22 +0200
> Ricardo Mones wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 16:16:39 +0200
> > Tristan Miller wrote:
> >
> > > Perhaps I could write the message, save it in the drafts folder,
> > > edit it with a text editor to add the missing In-Reply-To header,
> > > then reopen it and send it with Claws Mail.
> >
> > Yep, that could work. I wonder... are you trying to handcraft a reply
> > to a message you can't reply (why not?), but, somehow, have its
> > message-id?
>
> I think he already explained that. It's a list message that he's
> already deleted. Presumably he can see the ID on a list archive or
> similar?
You're right, I overlooked that, sorry! and thanks for your answer ;-)
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From dave at dawoodfall.net Wed Sep 5 13:26:11 2018
From: dave at dawoodfall.net (David Woodfall)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 12:26:11 +0100
Subject: [Users] Problem with opening links in RSSyl
In-Reply-To: <20180905083730.5be60aa8@penny>
References: <20180905001452.2cd976fd@raven.thebigvoid.org>
<20180905083730.5be60aa8@penny>
Message-ID: <20180905112611.GB948@blackswan>
On Wednesday 5 September 2018 08:37,
Andrej Kacian put forth the proposition:
> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 00:14:52 +0100
> David Woodfall wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I tend to be mouseless as much as possible and I can tab my way through the
> > links in a newsfeed item, but the problem is that when I use Shift + F10 to
> > bring up the right click menu, highlight 'open in browser' and press enter,
> > nothing happens.
> >
> > It works fine with the mouse of course.
> >
> > I've also tried using xdotool to do the same thing with the real mouse,
> > but that also fails.
> >
> > Any ideas?
>
> You should run "claws-mail --debug" in a terminal, and observe the
> output when you activate the "open in browser" menu item like you
> described. It should print exact command that it's trying to start the
> browser with, and you can troubleshoot from there.
A plain diff between keyboard and mouse output shows:
< fancy_viewer.c:653:open outer: (null)
> fancy_viewer.c:653:open outer: https://arstechnica.com/?p=1366139
> utils.c:3254:execute_command_line(): executing: /path/to/browser 'https://arstechnica.com/?p=1366139'
I should also add that Shift+F10 works as expected for folders and on
messages in list etc.
-Dave
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first programs in any other language (maybe except for fortran, but then
I suspect all fortran programs look like `firsts')
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From subscript at free.fr Wed Sep 5 14:56:22 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 14:56:22 +0200
Subject: [Users] Problem with opening links in RSSyl
In-Reply-To: <20180905112611.GB948@blackswan>
References: <20180905001452.2cd976fd@raven.thebigvoid.org>
<20180905083730.5be60aa8@penny> <20180905112611.GB948@blackswan>
Message-ID: <20180905145622.221e47cd@ladybug>
Hello David,
On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 12:26:11 +0100 David Woodfall wrote:
> On Wednesday 5 September 2018 08:37,
> Andrej Kacian put forth the proposition:
> > On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 00:14:52 +0100
> > David Woodfall wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I tend to be mouseless as much as possible and I can tab my way through the
> > > links in a newsfeed item, but the problem is that when I use Shift + F10 to
> > > bring up the right click menu, highlight 'open in browser' and press enter,
> > > nothing happens.
> > >
> > > It works fine with the mouse of course.
> > >
> > > I've also tried using xdotool to do the same thing with the real mouse,
> > > but that also fails.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> >
> > You should run "claws-mail --debug" in a terminal, and observe the
> > output when you activate the "open in browser" menu item like you
> > described. It should print exact command that it's trying to start the
> > browser with, and you can troubleshoot from there.
>
> A plain diff between keyboard and mouse output shows:
>
> < fancy_viewer.c:653:open outer: (null)
>
> > fancy_viewer.c:653:open outer: https://arstechnica.com/?p=1366139
> > utils.c:3254:execute_command_line(): executing: /path/to/browser 'https://arstechnica.com/?p=1366139'
>
> I should also add that Shift+F10 works as expected for folders and on
> messages in list etc.
I see the same here, open outer: (null) when using the keyboard, and a
valid link (working) from a mouse click.
Regards,
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From epodata at gmail.com Wed Sep 5 15:24:08 2018
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 15:24:08 +0200
Subject: [Users] Q: Reply7Sender.
Message-ID: <20180905152408.59699c98@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
What's the difference between the functions Reply and Sender on the main display? To me it
looks like they are identical.
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Regards,
Erik P. Olsen
From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 5 15:36:35 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 13:36:35 -0000
Subject: [Users] Q: Reply7Sender.
In-Reply-To: <20180905152408.59699c98@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20180905152408.59699c98@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20180905143635.750a0190@localhost>
On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 15:24:08 +0200
"Erik P. Olsen" wrote:
> What's the difference between the functions Reply and Sender on the
> main display? To me it looks like they are identical.
If you get a message that has both
From: addr1 at domain.org
Reply-To: addr2 at domain.org
'Reply' would reply to addr2 at domain.org
'Reply to sender' would reply to addr1 at domain.org
'Reply to sender' always favours the address in the From header.
with regards
Paul
From nicolas.claws at iselin.ch Wed Sep 5 16:01:01 2018
From: nicolas.claws at iselin.ch (Nicolas Iselin)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 16:01:01 +0200
Subject: [Users] Q: Reply7Sender.
In-Reply-To: <20180905143635.750a0190@localhost>
References: <20180905152408.59699c98@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
<20180905143635.750a0190@localhost>
Message-ID: <20180905160101.3a860bed@nbsyg08>
Am Wed, 5 Sep 2018 13:36:35 -0000
schrieb Paul :
> If you get a message that has both
> From: addr1 at domain.org
> Reply-To: addr2 at domain.org
>
> 'Reply' would reply to addr2 at domain.org
> 'Reply to sender' would reply to addr1 at domain.org
>
> 'Reply to sender' always favours the address in the From header.
>
which is extremely handy when you received a mail from a mailing list
(that has the "Reply-To" set to the mailing list usually) and want to
reply to the sender only.
At least for me this is the main use case for "reply to sender"
Nicolas
From ticho at claws-mail.org Wed Sep 5 17:33:43 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 17:33:43 +0200
Subject: [Users] Problem with opening links in RSSyl
In-Reply-To: <20180905145622.221e47cd@ladybug>
References: <20180905001452.2cd976fd@raven.thebigvoid.org>
<20180905083730.5be60aa8@penny> <20180905112611.GB948@blackswan>
<20180905145622.221e47cd@ladybug>
Message-ID: <20180905173343.0f01dc08@penny>
On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 14:56:22 +0200
wwp wrote:
> I see the same here, open outer: (null) when using the keyboard, and a
> valid link (working) from a mouse click.
Fixed now in git:
https://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=288d3a7
Regards,
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 5 19:23:52 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2018 17:23:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3533] DSN (delivery status notification)
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3533
Olivier Brunel changed:
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is obsolete| |
--- Comment #15 from Olivier Brunel ---
Created attachment 1912
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Add Delivery Status Notification (DSN) support
v3: compose: Update current options when changing account
Makes things more consistent with other similar options (e.g. auto-Cc, Privacy
System, ...)
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From dave at dawoodfall.net Wed Sep 5 22:26:30 2018
From: dave at dawoodfall.net (David Woodfall)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:26:30 +0100
Subject: [Users] Problem with opening links in RSSyl
In-Reply-To: <20180905173343.0f01dc08@penny>
References: <20180905001452.2cd976fd@raven.thebigvoid.org>
<20180905083730.5be60aa8@penny> <20180905112611.GB948@blackswan>
<20180905145622.221e47cd@ladybug> <20180905173343.0f01dc08@penny>
Message-ID: <20180905202630.GC948@blackswan>
On Wednesday 5 September 2018 17:33,
Andrej Kacian put forth the proposition:
> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 14:56:22 +0200
> wwp wrote:
>
> > I see the same here, open outer: (null) when using the keyboard, and a
> > valid link (working) from a mouse click.
>
> Fixed now in git:
> https://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=288d3a7
Thank you very much. Works a treat.
-Dave
--
> : Any porters out there should feel happier knowing that DEC is shipping
> : me an AlphaPC that I intend to try getting linux running on: this will
> : definitely help flush out some of the most flagrant unportable stuff.
> : The Alpha is much more different from the i386 than the 68k stuff is, so
> : it's likely to get most of the stuff fixed.
>
> It's posts like this that almost convince us non-believers that there
> really is a god.
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From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Thu Sep 6 08:36:31 2018
From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter Richards)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 16:36:31 +1000
Subject: [Users] HTML rendering problems
Message-ID: <20180906163631.4823d1d5@peter-Inspiron-3542>
Hi,
In September last year, I had HTML rendering problems, in not being
able to read what was being sent to me. I tried those buttons on the
right, to give a different view; all to no avail. During the course of
2 weeks, there were no less than 45 emails sent to and fro, all mostly
because I could not 'see' what was being sent.
Today the problem appeared again. I even copy/pasted the HTML into
seamonkey, but it still wouldn't render properly. The person had added
links to images and all sorts of documentation, however I could not see
any images or links, except for two at the start of the email.
Is there some setting in Claws that I am missing, in regards to HTML
rendering please ?
Cheers,
Peter
From silver.bullet at zoho.com Thu Sep 6 09:04:52 2018
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 09:04:52 +0200
Subject: [Users] HTML rendering problems
In-Reply-To: <20180906163631.4823d1d5@peter-Inspiron-3542>
References: <20180906163631.4823d1d5@peter-Inspiron-3542>
Message-ID: <20180906090452.6d065d5e@utnubu>
Under
Configuration > Preferences... > Message View > Text Options >
HTML messages >
I chose
[x] Render HTML message as text
[ ] Render HTML-only messages with plugin if possible
and
Select the HTML part of multipart/alternative messages
is just the default selection, so checked or unchecked, both have got
pitfalls. If unchecked some messages are "empty" by default, if checked
quotes and line wrapping of some messages is "fishy" by default. You
need to use the buttons on the right, if you check or uncheck this
option.
From dave at howorth.org.uk Thu Sep 6 10:12:31 2018
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 09:12:31 +0100
Subject: [Users] HTML rendering problems
In-Reply-To: <20180906163631.4823d1d5@peter-Inspiron-3542>
References: <20180906163631.4823d1d5@peter-Inspiron-3542>
Message-ID: <20180906091231.754deabd@acer-suse.lan>
On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 16:36:31 +1000
Peter Richards wrote:
> In September last year, I had HTML rendering problems, in not being
> able to read what was being sent to me. I tried those buttons on the
> right, to give a different view; all to no avail. During the course of
> 2 weeks, there were no less than 45 emails sent to and fro, all mostly
> because I could not 'see' what was being sent.
>
> Today the problem appeared again. I even copy/pasted the HTML into
> seamonkey, but it still wouldn't render properly. The person had added
> links to images and all sorts of documentation, however I could not
> see any images or links, except for two at the start of the email.
>
> Is there some setting in Claws that I am missing, in regards to HTML
> rendering please ?
If seamonkey also cannot render it, maybe the problem is with the HTML
that is being sent rather than with claws' rendering of it?
If you type CTRL+U whilst viewing the message, you can see the source
of the message. i.e. what was actually sent. Have look at that and see
whether it seems sensible.
From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Thu Sep 6 12:15:29 2018
From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter Richards)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 20:15:29 +1000
Subject: [Users] HTML rendering problems
In-Reply-To: <20180906090452.6d065d5e@utnubu>
References: <20180906163631.4823d1d5@peter-Inspiron-3542>
<20180906090452.6d065d5e@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20180906201529.458b46b4@peter-Inspiron-3542>
Hi,
On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 09:04:52 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Under
>
> Configuration > Preferences... > Message View > Text Options >
> HTML messages >
>
> I chose
>
> [x] Render HTML message as text
> [ ] Render HTML-only messages with plugin if possible
Yes that is the settings I have
> and
>
> Select the HTML part of multipart/alternative messages
Hmm, that one is unchecked, so I will try that. Just checked that, but
the email still had rendering problems. I did press 'apply'.
> is just the default selection, so checked or unchecked, both have got
> pitfalls. If unchecked some messages are "empty" by default, if
> checked quotes and line wrapping of some messages is "fishy" by
> default. You need to use the buttons on the right, if you check or
> uncheck this option.
Okay thanks. I do get some emails (e.g. Paypal) and it seems properly
'constructed'. There are text and html parts and the email header specs
state it being multipart,etc. There are no problems reading those
types. The email headers on this email are:
Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
and the email body commences with html tags. So there is no real 'plain
text'.
As this is a html only email, that option
[ ] Render HTML-only messages with plugin if possible
can I use a plugin like either "Dillo HTML Viewer" or "Fancy" ? Will
that affect other html/text emails ? I guess it shouldn't, as the
inference is "HTML-only messages"
Thanks,
Peter
From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Thu Sep 6 12:36:28 2018
From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter Richards)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 20:36:28 +1000
Subject: [Users] HTML rendering problems
In-Reply-To: <20180906091231.754deabd@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20180906163631.4823d1d5@peter-Inspiron-3542>
<20180906091231.754deabd@acer-suse.lan>
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Hi,
On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 09:12:31 +0100
Dave Howorth wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 16:36:31 +1000
> Peter Richards wrote:
>
> > Is there some setting in Claws that I am missing, in regards to HTML
> > rendering please ?
>
> If seamonkey also cannot render it, maybe the problem is with the HTML
> that is being sent rather than with claws' rendering of it?
>
> If you type CTRL+U whilst viewing the message, you can see the source
> of the message. i.e. what was actually sent. Have look at that and see
> whether it seems sensible.
The image references don't look sensible at all, and that were the
parts that were missing when I viewed the email. Seems a lot of html
special characters there, and even replacing ones like "=2E" didn't
result in a valid url/uri ; only a 404. Here is how the image tags
started ..
References:
<20180810141427.765a8f56@busgosu>
<20180810143836.670035b0@acer-suse.lan>
<1533910238.2967546.1469944856.2849856C@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <20180911121946.h4dxxm5k4lduepkc@busgosu>
Hi Jeremy,
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 03:10:38PM +0100, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Aug 2018, at 14:38, Dave Howorth wrote:
>
> > This piqued my interest to have a look. So firstly, thanks Ricardo for
> > such a useful program! And nicely written too :)
> >
> > Jeremy's comment looked to me like he knew what he was talking about.
> > i.e. that he's actually run it on a Win 8.1 system and it works.
>
> Ah. Umm. I've run other perl programs which work on Windows as well
> as other OSes. I assume perl makes it reasonably easy to write cross-
> platform code, but that doesn't mean whoever wrote Clawsker did
> so in a cross-platform way. I rather assumed they would have done.
You're probably assuming too much... I can assure you that not caring
about being cross-platform makes it even more easier to develop ;-)
> I'm not using Claws at the moment and although looking at Clawsker
> is on my list of things to do, family circumstances prevent me from
> spending time on either Claws or Clawsker at the moment.
I hope everything is fine!
If you find time patches for this subject are welcome, though I use
Windows just when required, and I try it's not required as often as I
can ;-)
--
Ricardo Mones
~
Never send a human to do a machine's job. Agent Smith
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 12:00:34 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:00:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4076] Search for messages between timestamps
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 12:06:38 2018
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:06:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4066] font/ttf mimetype attachments get attached with
no Content-Type
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--- Comment #4 from Paul ---
this is not a claws-mail bug.
see
https://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Installation_and_Configuration#How_can_I_change_the_suggested_mimetype_for_attachments_I_am_sending.3F
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 12:13:35 2018
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:13:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4026] Impossible to use 'F10' as a hotkey
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 12:30:58 2018
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:30:58 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply
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I believe that this was caused by a patch added by suse to their package,
Do-not-use-msginfo_list-for-compose.patch, which breaks things.
This breakage was pointed out to them and the patch has been dropped since.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 12:39:11 2018
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:39:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3943] 3.16.0 crashes with config from 3.15.1 and older
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 18:07:00 2018
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 16:07:00 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply
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--- Comment #6 from Michal Suchánek ---
no, the breakage is fixed by the patch. without that patch the messages
selected in the message list are used for reply address but the message shown
in message view for text.
Because these need not be in sync the reply address need not correspond to the
message.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 19:23:26 2018
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 17:23:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply
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--- Comment #7 from Paul ---
with that patch you have to open a msg to reply to it, you can't just
right-click a msg to reply. also with that patch you can't select more than 1
msg (in order to open more than one compose window)and reply to them all.
So it breaks more than it attempts to fix.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 21:07:50 2018
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 19:07:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply
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--- Comment #8 from Michal Suchánek ---
(In reply to comment #7)
> with that patch you have to open a msg to reply to it, you can't just
> right-click a msg to reply.
Yes, you have to do that. Since the message view is the only component that can
convert message to text you won't get a message to reply to otherwise.
> also with that patch you can't select more than
> 1 msg (in order to open more than one compose window)and reply to them all.
To reply to a number of messages quoting completely unrelated message? No,
thanks.
It would be awesome if the code to convert a message to text was ripped out of
the messageview so you actually could quote arbitrary message and not only the
one displayed but that's a feature to be implemented.
>
> So it breaks more than it attempts to fix.
AFAICT it does not break anything what was not broken to start with.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 22:37:38 2018
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 20:37:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4085] Fancy.dll fails to load on updated OS
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--- Comment #5 from Andrej Kacian ---
I can't reproduce this anymore, both the 32-bit and the 64-bit versions seem to
work just fine on a freshly downloaded 1808 build from
https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/downloads/virtual-machines.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 23:44:22 2018
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 21:44:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4085] Fancy.dll fails to load on updated OS
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--- Comment #6 from Gerard Seibert ---
I am running two machines with Windows 10 Pro/amd 64 with the same development
versions installed. Claws-mail (64) works fine on one but fancy fails on the
other. I am creating a ticket for the Microsoft tech net to see if they have
any ideas.
When will you be posting and updated CM4Win version?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 00:13:09 2018
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 22:13:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply
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--- Comment #9 from Paul ---
(In reply to comment #8)
> Yes, you have to do that. Since the message view is the only component that
> can convert message to text you won't get a message to reply to otherwise.
You are absolutely wrong here. Try it (without the aforementioned patch) and
you will see. Enter a folder without automatically opening a message.
Right-click any message and choose 'reply'.
> To reply to a number of messages quoting completely unrelated message? No,
> thanks.
No. To reply to a number of messsages, each quoting the respective message you
are replying to, each being addressed to the sender of the respective message.
Try it (without the aforementioned patch) and you will see.
> AFAICT it does not break anything what was not broken to start with.
Keep trying and you will see.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 08:58:40 2018
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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 06:58:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4085] Fancy.dll fails to load on updated OS
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--- Comment #7 from Andrej Kacian ---
I was going to wait for this issue to be resolved, but I guess I'll just go
ahead and release 3.17.1 this or tomorrow's evening.
Feel free to reopen this, or contact me privately if there are some
developments.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 12:17:34 2018
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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 10:17:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4085] Fancy.dll fails to load on updated OS
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--- Comment #8 from Gerard Seibert ---
My second PC, the one on which fancy was failing has now updated itself to
version 1809, OS build 17754.1 for Windows 10 Pro. I opened claws-mail and
reinstalled the fancy plugin. It worked. All is well again. These are beta
builds, so I guess you have to expect a hiccup occasionally. Plus, I did file a
report with Microsoft about the problem. Maybe somebody actually read it.
I am looking forward to the new build. :)
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Subject: [Users] [Bug 4085] Fancy.dll fails to load on updated OS
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From dave at howorth.org.uk Thu Sep 13 12:31:44 2018
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:31:44 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in
reply
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Message-ID: <20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan>
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 22:13:09 +0000
noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:
> https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889
>
> --- Comment #9 from Paul ---
> (In reply to comment #8)
> > Yes, you have to do that. Since the message view is the only
> > component that can convert message to text you won't get a message
> > to reply to otherwise.
>
> You are absolutely wrong here. Try it (without the aforementioned
> patch) and you will see. Enter a folder without automatically opening
> a message. Right-click any message and choose 'reply'.
FWIW, I just tried replying to another message from this list, using
the Reply entry on the context menu of that message, whilst viewing this
message. I get a compose window prepopulated with the quoted body of
this message, which is clearly incorrect.
I'm using openSUSE Leap 15.0 and claws 3.16.0 from their repository.
I don't know whether I'm seeing something broken in claws or in an
openSUSE patch which I don't know whether it is applied or not?
But the claws I'm running is definitely borked.
Oh, and if I try from another folder where I have multiple senders, it
is the sender of the message that is being viewed, not the sender of
the message I am trying to reply to, that is used. So at least it's
consisently incrorrect.
I would never dream of actually trying to reply to a message using the
context menu, or trying to reply to more than one message at once. So
for me, the simplest fix would simply be to remove Reply from the
context menu. Also removing the ability to select a different message
in the list from the one that is displayed would be sensible for my
simple-minded usage; what is the purpose of that ability?
> > To reply to a number of messages quoting completely unrelated
> > message? No, thanks.
>
> No. To reply to a number of messsages, each quoting the respective
> message you are replying to, each being addressed to the sender of
> the respective message. Try it (without the aforementioned patch) and
> you will see.
>
> > AFAICT it does not break anything what was not broken to start
> > with.
>
> Keep trying and you will see.
From msuchanek at suse.de Thu Sep 13 12:41:15 2018
From: msuchanek at suse.de (Michal =?UTF-8?B?U3VjaMOhbmVr?=)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 12:41:15 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in
reply
In-Reply-To: <20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan>
References:
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Message-ID: <20180913124115.28a5a1cf@naga.suse.cz>
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:31:44 +0100
Dave Howorth wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 22:13:09 +0000
> noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:
>
> > https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889
> >
> > --- Comment #9 from Paul ---
> > (In reply to comment #8)
> > > Yes, you have to do that. Since the message view is the only
> > > component that can convert message to text you won't get a message
> > > to reply to otherwise.
> >
> > You are absolutely wrong here. Try it (without the aforementioned
> > patch) and you will see. Enter a folder without automatically
> > opening a message. Right-click any message and choose 'reply'.
>
> FWIW, I just tried replying to another message from this list, using
> the Reply entry on the context menu of that message, whilst viewing
> this message. I get a compose window prepopulated with the quoted
> body of this message, which is clearly incorrect.
Yes, that's the broken upstream behavior.
>
> I'm using openSUSE Leap 15.0 and claws 3.16.0 from their repository.
>
> I don't know whether I'm seeing something broken in claws or in an
> openSUSE patch which I don't know whether it is applied or not?
Apparently the patch is not applied. Otherwise you would get correct
reply to the message displayed regardless of the message on which you
pop up the context menu.
>
> But the claws I'm running is definitely borked.
>
> Oh, and if I try from another folder where I have multiple senders, it
> is the sender of the message that is being viewed, not the sender of
> the message I am trying to reply to, that is used. So at least it's
> consisently incrorrect.
>
>
> I would never dream of actually trying to reply to a message using the
> context menu, or trying to reply to more than one message at once. So
I would but that's something claws cannot do so I use a bandaid patch
that at least fixes replying to the displayed message.
> for me, the simplest fix would simply be to remove Reply from the
> context menu. Also removing the ability to select a different message
> in the list from the one that is displayed would be sensible for my
> simple-minded usage; what is the purpose of that ability?
There is a setting to always display the selected message.
Thanks
Michal
From kardan at riseup.net Thu Sep 13 12:44:00 2018
From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 12:44:00 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in
reply
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Hi,
did you take this from bugzilla to the list with a reason?
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:31:44 +0100
Dave Howorth wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 22:13:09 +0000
> noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:
>
> > https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889
> >
> > --- Comment #9 from Paul ---
> > (In reply to comment #8)
>
> I'm using openSUSE Leap 15.0 and claws 3.16.0 from their repository.
Are you able to reproduce it with latest claws or from git?
Best,
kardan
From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 13:03:02 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:03:02 -0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in
reply
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References:
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Message-ID: <20180913120302.08a138d7@localhost>
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:31:44 +0100
Dave Howorth wrote:
> FWIW, I just tried replying to another message from this list, using
> the Reply entry on the context menu of that message, whilst viewing
> this message. I get a compose window prepopulated with the quoted
> body of this message, which is clearly incorrect.
As I said in the bug item:
"Enter a folder without automatically opening a message.
Right-click any message and choose 'reply'."
If a message is open, then your reply is going there.
with regards
Paul
From msuchanek at suse.de Thu Sep 13 13:15:29 2018
From: msuchanek at suse.de (Michal =?UTF-8?B?U3VjaMOhbmVr?=)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 13:15:29 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in
reply
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Message-ID: <20180913131529.44cf0819@naga.suse.cz>
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:03:02 -0000
Paul wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:31:44 +0100
> Dave Howorth wrote:
>
> > FWIW, I just tried replying to another message from this list, using
> > the Reply entry on the context menu of that message, whilst viewing
> > this message. I get a compose window prepopulated with the quoted
> > body of this message, which is clearly incorrect.
>
> As I said in the bug item:
>
> "Enter a folder without automatically opening a message.
> Right-click any message and choose 'reply'."
>
> If a message is open, then your reply is going there.
Don't understand what you are saying. Can you say what is the behaviour
expected by you in detail? Also how does it work with reply-all?
Either way the code as is is bogus. It coalesces information from
multiple messages to create an addressee list which is clearly bogus.
It pretends to reply to one message while quoting another which is
clearly bogus as well.
Thanks
Michal
From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 13:23:28 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:23:28 -0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in
reply
In-Reply-To: <20180913131529.44cf0819@naga.suse.cz>
References:
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Message-ID: <20180913122328.7c9bf040@localhost>
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 13:15:29 +0200
Michal Suchánek wrote:
> Don't understand what you are saying. Can you say what is the
> behaviour expected by you in detail? Also how does it work with
> reply-all?
>
> Either way the code as is is bogus. It coalesces information from
> multiple messages to create an addressee list which is clearly
> bogus.
>
> It pretends to reply to one message while quoting another which is
> clearly bogus as well.
No need to reply to me and the mailing list - you have to be
subscribed to post, so just reply to the mailing list.
Be aware that I agree that right-clicking a message and choosing
reply should reply to that right-clicked message.
The suse patch was no good, as it fixed one thing and broke a couple
others. It needs to fix the issue without breaking anything else,
(obviously!).
with regards
Paul
From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 14:39:37 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 12:39:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply
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--- Comment #10 from Paul ---
The content of attachment 1875 has been deleted by
Paul
who provided the following reason:
breaks more than it fixes
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 14:40:55 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 12:40:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply
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--- Comment #11 from Paul ---
Created attachment 1913
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potential fix
Michal, try this patch.
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From dave at howorth.org.uk Thu Sep 13 17:54:19 2018
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 16:54:19 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in
reply
In-Reply-To: <20180913124400.5a3aed70@t43.ts>
References:
<20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan>
<20180913124400.5a3aed70@t43.ts>
Message-ID: <20180913165419.08a9358b@acer-suse.lan>
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 12:44:00 +0200
kardan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> did you take this from bugzilla to the list with a reason?
Yes, I'm replying to a post on the list not the bugzilla.
> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:31:44 +0100
> Dave Howorth wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 22:13:09 +0000
> > noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:
> >
> > > https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889
> > >
> > > --- Comment #9 from Paul ---
> > > (In reply to comment #8)
> >
> > I'm using openSUSE Leap 15.0 and claws 3.16.0 from their
> > repository.
>
> Are you able to reproduce it with latest claws or from git?
I don't know. I use the distro's repositories.
> Best,
> kardan
From dave at howorth.org.uk Thu Sep 13 18:09:24 2018
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 17:09:24 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in
reply
In-Reply-To: <20180913120302.08a138d7@localhost>
References:
<20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan>
<20180913120302.08a138d7@localhost>
Message-ID: <20180913170924.6a026b89@acer-suse.lan>
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:03:02 -0000
Paul wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:31:44 +0100
> Dave Howorth wrote:
>
> > FWIW, I just tried replying to another message from this list, using
> > the Reply entry on the context menu of that message, whilst viewing
> > this message. I get a compose window prepopulated with the quoted
> > body of this message, which is clearly incorrect.
>
> As I said in the bug item:
>
> "Enter a folder without automatically opening a message.
> Right-click any message and choose 'reply'."
Right, but that's a different test case, not what I just tested. Hence,
I said FWIW. I automatically display the next message when I enter a
folder, so I'm never going to encounter your test case.
> If a message is open, then your reply is going there.
That's wrong behaviour IMHO. If I right click on a message then any
action I choose from that pop-up menu should apply to the message I
clicked on, not the displayed message. That's the purpose of context
menus - to have CONTEXT!
It appears there isn't a consensus as to what the desired behaviour
should be, so it's not too surprising there's confusion about patches.
> with regards
>
> Paul
From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 18:16:47 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 16:16:47 -0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in
reply
In-Reply-To: <20180913170924.6a026b89@acer-suse.lan>
References:
<20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan>
<20180913120302.08a138d7@localhost>
<20180913170924.6a026b89@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20180913171647.51e43661@localhost>
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 17:09:24 +0100
Dave Howorth wrote:
> That's wrong behaviour IMHO.
Yes, mine too. (see my last message on this thread)
> It appears there isn't a consensus as to what the desired behaviour
> should be, so it's not too surprising there's confusion about
> patches.
No confusion about patches - the original submitted patch broke 2
behaviours to fix one.
with regards
Paul
From removed-gdpr at example.com Thu Sep 13 18:46:22 2018
From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 19:46:22 +0300
Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org
In-Reply-To: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost>
References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost>
Message-ID: <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost>
After so many days - still an issue.
Any feedback please?
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 18:48:40 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 16:48:40 -0000
Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org
In-Reply-To: <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost>
References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost>
<20180913194622.70556a82@localhost>
Message-ID: <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost>
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 19:46:22 +0300
Removed GDPR wrote:
> After so many days - still an issue.
> Any feedback please?
Patience?
with regards
Paul
From subscript at free.fr Thu Sep 13 19:10:31 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 19:10:31 +0200
Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org
In-Reply-To: <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost>
References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost>
<20180913194622.70556a82@localhost>
<20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost>
Message-ID: <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug>
Hello,
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 16:48:40 -0000 Paul wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 19:46:22 +0300
> Removed GDPR wrote:
>
> > After so many days - still an issue.
> > Any feedback please?
>
> Patience?
Also maybe.. money! To host it somewhere else, faster, and to afford
spending time on it? Money is time and vice-versa (in this world).
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From removed-gdpr at example.com Thu Sep 13 22:22:35 2018
From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 23:22:35 +0300
Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org
In-Reply-To: <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug>
References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost>
<20180913194622.70556a82@localhost>
<20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost>
<20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug>
Message-ID: <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost>
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 16:48:40 -0000 Paul wrote:
> Patience?
My first message is from 31.Aug (1 week after I
noticed the issue). This makes it 3 weeks total. I
think it would be unfair of you to say that I have
been impatient :)
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 19:10:31 +0200 wwp wrote:
> Also maybe.. money! To host it somewhere else,
> faster, and to afford spending time on it? Money is
> time and vice-versa (in this world).
Cloning from a US host gives me 3.5Mb/s - the speed
which I could get from EU 2-3 weeks ago. It seems to
me a routing issue. A financial one (e.g. a slower
hosting plan) would result in slowness from everywhere
all the time.
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 22:25:42 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 20:25:42 -0000
Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org
In-Reply-To: <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost>
References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost>
<20180913194622.70556a82@localhost>
<20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost>
<20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug>
<20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost>
Message-ID: <20180913212542.7972f91a@localhost>
>
> My first message is from 31.Aug (1 week after I
> noticed the issue). This makes it 3 weeks total. I
> think it would be unfair of you to say that I have
> been impatient :)
>
I meant patience whilst downloading.
with regards
Paul
From colin at colino.net Thu Sep 13 22:28:48 2018
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy-Mira)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 22:28:48 +0200
Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org
In-Reply-To: <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost>
References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost>
<20180913194622.70556a82@localhost>
<20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost>
<20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug>
<20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost>
Message-ID: <20180913222848.07c0d2b3@mike>
On 13 September 2018 at 23h22, Removed GDPR wrote:
Hi,
> > Also maybe.. money! To host it somewhere else,
> > faster, and to afford spending time on it? Money is
> > time and vice-versa (in this world).
>
> Cloning from a US host gives me 3.5Mb/s - the speed
> which I could get from EU 2-3 weeks ago. It seems to
> me a routing issue. A financial one (e.g. a slower
> hosting plan) would result in slowness from everywhere
> all the time.
I'm sorry, we don't have any weight over our hosting provider's
peerings...
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 22:41:28 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 20:41:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889
--- Comment #12 from Colin Leroy ---
Hi!
Apparently that patch would break replying to selected part of the displayed
body.
The problem, I think, is that the menubar "Reply" and the main menu's Reply
items use the displayed message, and the summaryview's contextual menu "Reply"
uses the same callback as the main menu.
For the two first cases, I'd say that's logical. For the last one, it's not.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 22:42:50 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 20:42:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply
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--- Comment #13 from Colin Leroy ---
We could change the behaviour so that all "Reply" from mainwindow (bar and
menu) would reply to the selected message instead of the opened one if the
selected one is different from the opened one ?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 23:12:27 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 21:12:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply
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--- Comment #14 from Colin Leroy ---
Created attachment 1914
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Another proposed fix
May I suggest that patch?
- Using the toolbar buttons, no change
- Using the menus (main and summary):
- If the message opened in the messageview is part of the summaryview
selection, no change.
- Else, skip using the messageview information altogether.
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From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Sep 14 10:22:08 2018
From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 11:22:08 +0300
Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org
In-Reply-To: <20180913222848.07c0d2b3@mike>
References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost>
<20180913194622.70556a82@localhost>
<20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost>
<20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug>
<20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180913222848.07c0d2b3@mike>
Message-ID: <20180914112208.4e942424@localhost>
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 22:28:48 +0200 Colin Leroy-Mira
wrote:
> I'm sorry, we don't have any weight over our hosting
> provider's peerings...
Have you at least notified them about the issue? I
don't expect it will get self fixed as it hasn't so
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 14 14:36:30 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 12:36:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
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--- Comment #15 from Michal Suchánek ---
(In reply to comment #14)
> Created attachment 1914 [details]
> Another proposed fix
>
> May I suggest that patch?
>
> - Using the toolbar buttons, no change
> - Using the menus (main and summary):
> - If the message opened in the messageview is part of the summaryview
> selection, no change.
> - Else, skip using the messageview information altogether.
This is broken. The messageview is the most prominent target for reply. So when
you click reply any place other than a popup from summaryview it should reply
to the message from messageview.
The selection in the summaryview may not even be visible when you trigger reply
anywhere else.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 14 14:55:42 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 12:55:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply
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--- Comment #16 from Colin Leroy ---
That's true. I'll see if I can put in the extra work to make it work.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 14 15:08:55 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:08:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply
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--- Comment #17 from Michal Suchánek ---
Also your patch does not remove the part that merges addressees from different
messages so it will probably not fix the issue.
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From pf at pfortin.com Fri Sep 14 19:07:29 2018
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:07:29 -0400
Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages
Message-ID: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com>
Hi,
Having a weird problem... I run 2 instances of CM, one on my primary
Linux account and another via "su - userid2". On the main instance,
incoming messages are checked and all seems fine. On the 2nd instance,
when mail arrives, I'm seeing long delays where CM is totally
unresponsive.
Testing: Instance2 offline. Sent test message from instance1.
"Get" produced:
Network log:
[12:39:26] POP> LIST
[12:39:26] POP< +OK Mailbox scan listing follows
[12:39:26] POP> RETR 226
[12:39:26] POP< +OK 2836 octets
[12:39:26] POP> QUIT
[12:39:26] POP< +OK Sayonara
Filtering log:
[12:39:27] processing rule 'Listings' [ from matchcase "@pfortin.com" &
to matchcase "pierre at pfortin.com" move "#mh/Mailbox/inbox/ListingsToSelf"
] [12:39:27] checking if message matches [ from matchcase "@pfortin.com"
] [12:39:27] checking if message matches [ to matchcase
"pierre at pfortin.com" ]
> message matches
[12:39:27] applying action [ move "#mh/Mailbox/inbox/ListingsToSelf" ]
CM hung until 12:40:28 (~60 seconds). This delay appears to be
multiplied by the number of messages arriving.
I'd been thinking this was due to SA plugin; but unchecking "Enable
SpamAssassin plugin", or unloading SA altogether has no effect on the
problem.
CM still hangs for 60 seconds per message.
Any suggestions on where to look for, or what might cause these delays?
Thanks,
Pierre
From subscript at free.fr Fri Sep 14 19:23:19 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 19:23:19 +0200
Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages
In-Reply-To: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com>
References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20180914192319.4bd12497@ladybug>
Hello Pierre,
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:07:29 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Having a weird problem... I run 2 instances of CM, one on my primary
> Linux account and another via "su - userid2". On the main instance,
> incoming messages are checked and all seems fine. On the 2nd instance,
> when mail arrives, I'm seeing long delays where CM is totally
> unresponsive.
>
> Testing: Instance2 offline. Sent test message from instance1.
> "Get" produced:
>
> Network log:
> [12:39:26] POP> LIST
> [12:39:26] POP< +OK Mailbox scan listing follows
> [12:39:26] POP> RETR 226
> [12:39:26] POP< +OK 2836 octets
> [12:39:26] POP> QUIT
> [12:39:26] POP< +OK Sayonara
>
> Filtering log:
> [12:39:27] processing rule 'Listings' [ from matchcase "@pfortin.com" &
> to matchcase "pierre at pfortin.com" move "#mh/Mailbox/inbox/ListingsToSelf"
> ] [12:39:27] checking if message matches [ from matchcase "@pfortin.com"
> ] [12:39:27] checking if message matches [ to matchcase
> "pierre at pfortin.com" ]
> > message matches
> [12:39:27] applying action [ move "#mh/Mailbox/inbox/ListingsToSelf" ]
>
> CM hung until 12:40:28 (~60 seconds). This delay appears to be
> multiplied by the number of messages arriving.
>
> I'd been thinking this was due to SA plugin; but unchecking "Enable
> SpamAssassin plugin", or unloading SA altogether has no effect on the
> problem.
>
> CM still hangs for 60 seconds per message.
>
> Any suggestions on where to look for, or what might cause these delays?
Do you run any other plugin that computes things remotely? Better
disable them all for your tests, anyway.
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From rol at witbe.net Fri Sep 14 19:26:14 2018
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 19:26:14 +0200
Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages
In-Reply-To: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com>
References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20180914192614.09172b9b@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
Hello,
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:07:29 -0400
Pierre Fortin wrote:
> Having a weird problem... I run 2 instances of CM, one on my primary
> Linux account and another via "su - userid2". On the main instance,
> incoming messages are checked and all seems fine. On the 2nd instance,
> when mail arrives, I'm seeing long delays where CM is totally
> unresponsive.
What happens if you stop instance1 and only run instance2 ? Still delays or
no more delays ?
Paul
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From myetto at gmail.com Fri Sep 14 19:33:28 2018
From: myetto at gmail.com (Michael A. Yetto)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:33:28 -0400
Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages
In-Reply-To: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com>
References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20180914133328.28605d5d@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:07:29 -0400
Pierre Fortin writes, and having writ moves on:
>I'd been thinking this was due to SA plugin; but unchecking "Enable
>SpamAssassin plugin", or unloading SA altogether has no effect on the
>problem.
>
>CM still hangs for 60 seconds per message.
>
>Any suggestions on where to look for, or what might cause these delays?
I had to give up on Dillo and stick to Fancy because opening the HTML
portion of an email took at least a minute each time. Even switching
to text and back to the HTML portion caused the same long delay with
each message.
I'm running version 3.17.1 on Kubuntu 18.04.01.
Mike Yetto
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From pf at pfortin.com Fri Sep 14 19:56:45 2018
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:56:45 -0400
Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages
In-Reply-To: <20180914192319.4bd12497@ladybug>
References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com>
<20180914192319.4bd12497@ladybug>
Message-ID: <20180914135645.30588b51@pfortin.com>
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 19:23:19 +0200 wwp wrote:
>Do you run any other plugin that computes things remotely? Better
>disable them all for your tests, anyway.
Plugins loaded:
Address Keeper
Attach Warner
AttRemover
Fancy HTML Viewer
NewMail
Notification
PDF Viewer
Python
None of these should be invoked on a simple one-line text-only message.
The main instance never has these delays.
Tried a different setup... instead of "su", I "ssh" to userid2 and the
same problem occurs.
Dunno if it's related; but instance1 (the one I'm using now) ignores a few
typed characters when checking for new mail...
Unloaded all the plugins by just clicking Unload 8 times, nothing else.
When I got to the last one, CM crashed:
[1]+ Segmentation fault (core dumped) cm
Where is the core dumped to?
The crash saved clawsrc with no changes, so restarting CM, all these
plugins are still loaded. A quick test shows that unloading Python is
the cause of the crash. I've started a bug report; but if you can
reproduce, it'll save me more debugging. Though, what else to do while
hurricane Florence howls around me... :)
Will continue testing the delay issue...
Pierre
From pf at pfortin.com Fri Sep 14 20:01:46 2018
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 14:01:46 -0400
Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages
In-Reply-To: <20180914192614.09172b9b@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com>
<20180914192614.09172b9b@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
Message-ID: <20180914140146.60d21bbf@pfortin.com>
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 19:26:14 +0200 Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) wrote:
>Hello,
>
>On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:07:29 -0400
>Pierre Fortin wrote:
>
>> Having a weird problem... I run 2 instances of CM, one on my primary
>> Linux account and another via "su - userid2". On the main instance,
>> incoming messages are checked and all seems fine. On the 2nd instance,
>> when mail arrives, I'm seeing long delays where CM is totally
>> unresponsive.
>
>What happens if you stop instance1 and only run instance2 ? Still delays or
>no more delays ?
>
>Paul
I've been seeing this problem for several months now -- too busy to follow
up; but have some time while hurricane Florence howls outside... as long
as I don't lose power...
The only possible connection between the 2 instances would be sharing the
spamd resources; but disabling SA didn't help. spamd logs and wireshark
traces of port 783 show no problems.
Pierre
From sylpheed at 911networks.com Fri Sep 14 20:07:04 2018
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 11:07:04 -0700
Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages
In-Reply-To: <20180914133328.28605d5d@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com>
<20180914133328.28605d5d@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
Message-ID: <20180914110704.3d094b1b@frogguski.911networks.com>
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:33:28 -0400
"Michael A. Yetto" wrote:
>
>I had to give up on Dillo and stick to Fancy because opening the HTML
>portion of an email took at least a minute each time. Even switching
>to text and back to the HTML portion caused the same long delay with
>each message.
>
>I'm running version 3.17.1 on Kubuntu 18.04.01.
I'm exactly the opposite. I use Dillo for the HTML because I'm on
Manjaro and the Archlinux maintainers of CM have removed Fancy from
the CM and only provide Dillo.
I could compile it myself, but it's so much simpler for me to let do
all the work/compile/dependencies...
BTW, I have no slow down with Dillo, but my default is "Render HTML
as text", then I switch to html when I need.
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vyS
From subscript at free.fr Fri Sep 14 20:14:38 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 20:14:38 +0200
Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages
In-Reply-To: <20180914140146.60d21bbf@pfortin.com>
References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com>
<20180914192614.09172b9b@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
<20180914140146.60d21bbf@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20180914201438.5d1c3ee5@ladybug>
Hello Pierre,
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 14:01:46 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 19:26:14 +0200 Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) wrote:
>
> >Hello,
> >
> >On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:07:29 -0400
> >Pierre Fortin wrote:
> >
> >> Having a weird problem... I run 2 instances of CM, one on my primary
> >> Linux account and another via "su - userid2". On the main instance,
> >> incoming messages are checked and all seems fine. On the 2nd instance,
> >> when mail arrives, I'm seeing long delays where CM is totally
> >> unresponsive.
> >
> >What happens if you stop instance1 and only run instance2 ? Still delays or
> >no more delays ?
> >
> >Paul
>
> I've been seeing this problem for several months now -- too busy to follow
> up; but have some time while hurricane Florence howls outside... as long
> as I don't lose power...
>
> The only possible connection between the 2 instances would be sharing the
> spamd resources; but disabling SA didn't help. spamd logs and wireshark
> traces of port 783 show no problems.
Am I wrong or you did not reply to Paul's question? Did you try running
instance2 *without* any instance1?
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From subscript at free.fr Fri Sep 14 20:17:32 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 20:17:32 +0200
Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages
In-Reply-To: <20180914135645.30588b51@pfortin.com>
References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com>
<20180914192319.4bd12497@ladybug>
<20180914135645.30588b51@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20180914201732.4403f681@ladybug>
Hello Pierre,
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:56:45 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 19:23:19 +0200 wwp wrote:
>
> >Do you run any other plugin that computes things remotely? Better
> >disable them all for your tests, anyway.
>
> Plugins loaded:
>
> Address Keeper
> Attach Warner
> AttRemover
> Fancy HTML Viewer
> NewMail
> Notification
> PDF Viewer
> Python
>
> None of these should be invoked on a simple one-line text-only message.
Yes, but what does it cost to try anyway? Trying to isolate a
behaviour, if you have no clue about the cause, remove as possible
sources as possible, if not reproducing anymore, add again one possible cause by
one possible cause, yes it could take forever ;-).
> The main instance never has these delays.
>
> Tried a different setup... instead of "su", I "ssh" to userid2 and the
> same problem occurs.
>
> Dunno if it's related; but instance1 (the one I'm using now) ignores a few
> typed characters when checking for new mail...
I get a UI more or less responsive when CM is fetching mail or rss
items, I always had, sometimes it's quite impossible to keep typing in
a compose window while there is network activity or updating a folder
view (I've just got it right now after email incorporation while I was
typing). I don't think this is 'abnormal' even if itchy-scratchy.
> Unloaded all the plugins by just clicking Unload 8 times, nothing else.
> When I got to the last one, CM crashed:
> [1]+ Segmentation fault (core dumped) cm
>
> Where is the core dumped to?
[snip]
If core there is, $HOME (should be). But I recommend trying to
reproduce it with CM running from gdb.
Regards,
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 14 20:26:36 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 18:26:36 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4087] New: Unloading Python crashes CM
Message-ID:
https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4087
Bug ID: 4087
Summary: Unloading Python crashes CM
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail
Version: GIT
Hardware: PC
OS: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: Plugins
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: pf at pfortin.com
pluginwindow.c:297:Creating plugins window...
pluginwindow.c:429:called inc_lock (lock count 1)
plugin.c:288:removing /usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/python.so rdeps
hooks.c:91:unregistered hook 1 in 'compose_created'
python_plugin.c:168:Problem running script file
'/home/pierre/.claws-mail/python-scripts/auto/shutdown'
python_plugin.c:729:Python plugin done and unloaded.
[3]+ Segmentation fault (core dumped) cm
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 14 20:53:46 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 18:53:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4088] New: spurious message when starting
Message-ID:
https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4088
Bug ID: 4088
Summary: spurious message when starting
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail
Version: GIT
Hardware: PC
OS: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: Other
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: pf at pfortin.com
Start CM
Konsole outputs:
[Users]HowcanIimportGooglecalendarsClawsMail?selecting folder
'#mh/Mailbox/Linux/claws-mail'
which seems like an old thread.
Change folder.
Close CM
Start again
Konsole outputs:
[Users]HowcanIimportGooglecalendarsClawsMail?selecting folder
'#mh/Mailbox/Linux/claws-mail/Bugs'
Looks like some trash in a buffer...
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 14 21:09:21 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 19:09:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4088] spurious message when starting
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4088
--- Comment #1 from Pierre Fortin ---
When starting CM, I sometimes also see:
open(): No such file or directory
[ Users]HowcanIimportGooglecalendarsClawsMail?selecting folder
'#mh/Mailbox/Linux/claws-mail/Bugs'
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From pf at pfortin.com Fri Sep 14 21:52:57 2018
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 15:52:57 -0400
Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages
In-Reply-To: <20180914192614.09172b9b@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com>
<20180914192614.09172b9b@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
Message-ID: <20180914155257.6cd05264@pfortin.com>
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 19:26:14 +0200 Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) wrote:
>What happens if you stop instance1 and only run instance2 ? Still delays or
>no more delays ?
Just did lots of testing. Based on this question, I reversed the startup
order of the 2 instances and now I can't reproduce the delays; even after
returning to my normal startup sequence...
Twilight Zone...
From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Sep 14 22:58:47 2018
From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 23:58:47 +0300
Subject: [Users] Dealing with slow IMAP servers
Message-ID: <20180914235847.15c2a99d@localhost>
Hi,
Some IMAP servers are very slow (e.g. Yahoo). It takes
many minutes to sync a folder which is 2-4Gb after
which it is somewhat bearable (but still slow) but if
one moves to another computer, one needs to repeat the
whole slow process of syncing.
I wonder: is there a way to tell Claws Mail not to
sync everything? For example: Android's mail client can
be told to load only the latest N messages. Is that
possible in CM? Or anything else suitable for slow
servers?
--
George
From ticho at claws-mail.org Fri Sep 14 23:04:22 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 23:04:22 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.17.1-1 for Windows unleashed
Message-ID: <20180914230422.12d40fd4@penny>
14th September 2018 Claws Mail 3.17.1-1
CLAWS MAIL FOR WINDOWS RELEASE NOTES
http://www.claws-mail.org/win32
Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast
email client.
See http://www.claws-mail.org/news.php for full information
regarding changes since the previous release.
Changes specific to the Windows release are:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
* Some supporting libraries have been updated to more recent
versions:
o gnutls from 3.5.18 to 3.6.3
o libexpat from 2.2.5 to 2.2.6
o curl from 7.59.0 to 7.61.0
o glib from 2.54.3 to 2.56.2
o harfbuzz from 1.3.3 to 1.8.8
o libpng from 1.6.29 to 1.6.34
o libgpg-error from 1.27 to 1.29
o libgcrypt from 1.8.2 to 1.8.3
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 14 23:35:46 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 21:35:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3533] DSN (delivery status notification)
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3533
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Add Delivery Status Notification (DSN) support
Update of the v3 to build against 3.17.0git53
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From myetto at gmail.com Sat Sep 15 17:19:23 2018
From: myetto at gmail.com (Michael A. Yetto)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 11:19:23 -0400
Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages
In-Reply-To: <20180914110704.3d094b1b@frogguski.911networks.com>
References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com>
<20180914133328.28605d5d@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
<20180914110704.3d094b1b@frogguski.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20180915111923.4af976b5@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 11:07:04 -0700
sylpheed at 911networks.com writes, and having writ moves on:
>On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:33:28 -0400
>"Michael A. Yetto" wrote:
>
>>
>>I had to give up on Dillo and stick to Fancy because opening the HTML
>>portion of an email took at least a minute each time. Even switching
>>to text and back to the HTML portion caused the same long delay with
>>each message.
>>
>>I'm running version 3.17.1 on Kubuntu 18.04.01.
>
>I'm exactly the opposite. I use Dillo for the HTML because I'm on
>Manjaro and the Archlinux maintainers of CM have removed Fancy from
>the CM and only provide Dillo.
>
>I could compile it myself, but it's so much simpler for me to let do
>all the work/compile/dependencies...
>
>BTW, I have no slow down with Dillo, but my default is "Render HTML
>as text", then I switch to html when I need.
>
Opening the HTML part with Dillo, either auto, manual, or reopening
causes a slow down to the point of stopping *everything else* for at
least a minute. No Dillo for me.
Mike Yetto
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From lbickley at bickleywest.com Sat Sep 15 17:31:16 2018
From: lbickley at bickleywest.com (Lyle Bickley)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 08:31:16 -0700
Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages
In-Reply-To: <20180915111923.4af976b5@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com>
<20180914133328.28605d5d@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
<20180914110704.3d094b1b@frogguski.911networks.com>
<20180915111923.4af976b5@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
Message-ID: <20180915083116.700a10bc@asrock>
I'm using Dillo with no issues re "opening time". Here's my
configuration:
Claws version 3.17.0git25
Plugins: Dillo, GData, PGP
System Information
GTK+ 2.24.32 / GLib 2.54.3
Locale: C (charset: US-ASCII)
Operating System: Linux 4.12.14-lp150.12.16-default (x86_64)
6-core AMD CPU 3.5GHz, 16GB memory, Radeon RX 560 Graphics
Best,
Lyle
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 11:19:23 -0400
"Michael A. Yetto" wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 11:07:04 -0700
> sylpheed at 911networks.com writes, and having writ moves on:
>
> >On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:33:28 -0400
> >"Michael A. Yetto" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>I had to give up on Dillo and stick to Fancy because opening the
> >>HTML portion of an email took at least a minute each time. Even
> >>switching to text and back to the HTML portion caused the same long
> >>delay with each message.
> >>
> >>I'm running version 3.17.1 on Kubuntu 18.04.01.
> >
> >I'm exactly the opposite. I use Dillo for the HTML because I'm on
> >Manjaro and the Archlinux maintainers of CM have removed Fancy from
> >the CM and only provide Dillo.
> >
> >I could compile it myself, but it's so much simpler for me to let do
> >all the work/compile/dependencies...
> >
> >BTW, I have no slow down with Dillo, but my default is "Render HTML
> >as text", then I switch to html when I need.
> >
>
> Opening the HTML part with Dillo, either auto, manual, or reopening
> causes a slow down to the point of stopping *everything else* for at
> least a minute. No Dillo for me.
>
> Mike Yetto
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From pf at pfortin.com Sat Sep 15 17:43:49 2018
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 11:43:49 -0400
Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages
In-Reply-To: <20180914133328.28605d5d@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com>
<20180914133328.28605d5d@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
Message-ID: <20180915114349.1455dc53@pfortin.com>
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:33:28 -0400 Michael A. Yetto wrote:
>On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:07:29 -0400
>Pierre Fortin writes, and having writ moves on:
>
>>I'd been thinking this was due to SA plugin; but unchecking "Enable
>>SpamAssassin plugin", or unloading SA altogether has no effect on the
>>problem.
>>
>>CM still hangs for 60 seconds per message.
>>
>>Any suggestions on where to look for, or what might cause these delays?
>
>I had to give up on Dillo and stick to Fancy because opening the HTML
>portion of an email took at least a minute each time. Even switching
>to text and back to the HTML portion caused the same long delay with
>each message.
>
>I'm running version 3.17.1 on Kubuntu 18.04.01.
>
>Mike Yetto
This thread was NOT about Dillo or Fancy. Please don't hijack threads...
From dave at howorth.org.uk Sat Sep 15 18:20:42 2018
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 17:20:42 +0100
Subject: [Users] news reader
Message-ID: <20180915172042.73e4decc@acer-suse.lan>
I believe it is possible to use claws as a news reader (i.e. NNTP, not
RSS). But I haven't found any documentation that explains how to do it
and I haven't had any success by experimenting.
Claws 3.16.0 - I've managed to create a mailbox called 'News (MH)' and
I created a news account that also created a mailbox called 'News
(News)' and I loaded RSSyl, based on an old answer I found from Michael
Rasmussen and that created 'My Feeds (RSSyl)'.
But I can't find any way to populate any of those maiboxes with any
content. (Well, I expect I could populate the RSSyl one, but it's not
RSS content that I want!).
What am I missing?
From removed-gdpr at example.com Sat Sep 15 18:30:32 2018
From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 19:30:32 +0300
Subject: [Users] news reader
In-Reply-To: <20180915172042.73e4decc@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20180915172042.73e4decc@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20180915193032.4790d82e@localhost>
Right click on the NNTP account folder (your "News
(News)" and then "Subscribe to newsgroup..." should
give you the available newsgroups. After picking one it
will show up as a sub-folder with the messages in it.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 15 18:44:31 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 16:44:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4089] New: when running via su|ssh,
CM stalls for 60 seconds on each received message
Message-ID:
https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4089
Bug ID: 4089
Summary: when running via su|ssh, CM stalls for 60 seconds on
each received message
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail
Version: GIT
Hardware: PC
OS: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: Other
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: pf at pfortin.com
Created attachment 1916
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debug output
I run 2 instances of CM (only POP3), one on my primary Linux account and
another via "su - userid2" (or "ssh userid2 at localhost"). On the main instance,
incoming messages are checked and all seems fine. On the 2nd instance, when
mail arrives, I'm seeing long delays where CM is totally unresponsive.
Ran with --debug which confirms 60 second delay -- see comments in debug
output.
For this test, I started CM and waited until it began polling on its own.
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From pf at pfortin.com Sat Sep 15 18:45:13 2018
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 12:45:13 -0400
Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages
In-Reply-To: <20180914155257.6cd05264@pfortin.com>
References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com>
<20180914192614.09172b9b@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
<20180914155257.6cd05264@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20180915124513.23985096@pfortin.com>
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 15:52:57 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote:
>On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 19:26:14 +0200 Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) wrote:
>
>>What happens if you stop instance1 and only run instance2 ? Still delays or
>>no more delays ?
>
>Just did lots of testing. Based on this question, I reversed the startup
>order of the 2 instances and now I can't reproduce the delays; even after
>returning to my normal startup sequence...
>
>Twilight Zone...
Surprise, the problem is back... got more info and filed bug 4089
From nick_koretsky at ukr.net Sat Sep 15 19:09:00 2018
From: nick_koretsky at ukr.net (Nick Koretsky)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 20:09:00 +0300
Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages
In-Reply-To: <20180915124513.23985096@pfortin.com>
References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com>
<20180914192614.09172b9b@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
<20180914155257.6cd05264@pfortin.com>
<20180915124513.23985096@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20180915200900.08df2cec@nikita>
On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 12:45:13 -0400
Pierre Fortin wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 15:52:57 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 19:26:14 +0200 Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) wrote:
> >
> >>What happens if you stop instance1 and only run instance2 ? Still
> >>delays or no more delays ?
> >
> >Just did lots of testing. Based on this question, I reversed the startup
> >order of the 2 instances and now I can't reproduce the delays; even after
> >returning to my normal startup sequence...
> >
> >Twilight Zone...
>
> Surprise, the problem is back... got more info and filed bug 4089
Looked at you debug output, try to disable notify plugin. You do not have
desktop running as that user, it fails to connect but there maybe a timeout
here...
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From brad at fineby.me.uk Sat Sep 15 19:22:39 2018
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 18:22:39 +0100
Subject: [Users] news reader
In-Reply-To: <20180915172042.73e4decc@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20180915172042.73e4decc@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20180915182239.682c97fa@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 17:20:42 +0100
Dave Howorth wrote:
Hello Dave,
>Claws 3.16.0 - I've managed to create a mailbox called 'News (MH)' and
>I created a news account that also created a mailbox called 'News
>(News)' and I loaded RSSyl, based on an old answer I found from Michael
>Rasmussen and that created 'My Feeds (RSSyl)'.
The only one you need to receive news is an Account with a Protocol of
type NNTP. Select the relevant protocol, populate the newsserver box
with the name of your desired server, and enter username and password.
Go to your newly created account, right click and select Subscribe to
newsgroup. You'll get a list of groups.
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/ _)rad never immediately apparent"
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From pf at pfortin.com Sat Sep 15 20:27:34 2018
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 14:27:34 -0400
Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages
In-Reply-To: <20180915200900.08df2cec@nikita>
References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com>
<20180914192614.09172b9b@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 20:09:00 +0300 Nick Koretsky wrote:
>On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 12:45:13 -0400
>Pierre Fortin wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 15:52:57 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote:
>>
>> >On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 19:26:14 +0200 Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) wrote:
>> >
>> >>What happens if you stop instance1 and only run instance2 ? Still
>> >>delays or no more delays ?
>> >
>> >Just did lots of testing. Based on this question, I reversed the startup
>> >order of the 2 instances and now I can't reproduce the delays; even after
>> >returning to my normal startup sequence...
>> >
>> >Twilight Zone...
>>
>> Surprise, the problem is back... got more info and filed bug 4089
>
>
>Looked at you debug output, try to disable notify plugin. You do not have
>desktop running as that user, it fails to connect but there maybe a timeout
>here...
This problem started 2-4 months ago IIRC. I've been running CM since at
least 2002 (Sylpheed version 0.6.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu))
and 2 instances all along. This issue is relatively recent -- been very
busy since mid-June so haven't had time to debug/report it. Hurricane
Florence is giving me time to work on this and other issues... :)
This instance of CM reports:
(cm:1204): libnotify-WARNING **: Failed to connect to proxy
quite often; but I can't be specific because my timestamp enhancement
request is still outstanding (bug 3353).
Aside: My primary instance of CM randomly reports:
** (cm:28672): WARNING **: addressbook folder not configured
but the address books are fine...
Besides, Notification plugin works just fine otherwise -- displaying
proper status at all times for both instances.
From dave at howorth.org.uk Sat Sep 15 20:45:56 2018
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 19:45:56 +0100
Subject: [Users] news reader
In-Reply-To: <20180915193032.4790d82e@localhost>
References: <20180915172042.73e4decc@acer-suse.lan>
<20180915193032.4790d82e@localhost>
Message-ID: <20180915194556.6a17e938@acer-suse.lan>
On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 19:30:32 +0300
Removed GDPR wrote:
> Right click on the NNTP account folder (your "News
> (News)" and then "Subscribe to newsgroup..." should
> give you the available newsgroups. After picking one it
> will show up as a sub-folder with the messages in it.
Thanks. I did that; it says:
"Can't retrieve newsgroup list."
> --
> George
From lfiskgr at gmail.com Sat Sep 15 21:13:02 2018
From: lfiskgr at gmail.com (Leon Fisk)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 15:13:02 -0400
Subject: [Users] news reader
In-Reply-To: <20180915194556.6a17e938@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20180915172042.73e4decc@acer-suse.lan>
<20180915193032.4790d82e@localhost>
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 19:45:56 +0100
Dave Howorth wrote:
>Thanks. I did that; it says:
>
>"Can't retrieve newsgroup list."
Do you have an NNTP account set up similar to the attached screen shot?
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From dave at howorth.org.uk Sat Sep 15 21:32:40 2018
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 20:32:40 +0100
Subject: [Users] news reader
In-Reply-To: <20180915182239.682c97fa@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20180915172042.73e4decc@acer-suse.lan>
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Message-ID: <20180915203240.4be5140f@acer-suse.lan>
On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 18:22:39 +0100
Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 17:20:42 +0100
> Dave Howorth wrote:
>
> Hello Dave,
>
> >Claws 3.16.0 - I've managed to create a mailbox called 'News (MH)'
> >and I created a news account that also created a mailbox called 'News
> >(News)' and I loaded RSSyl, based on an old answer I found from
> >Michael Rasmussen and that created 'My Feeds (RSSyl)'.
>
> The only one you need to receive news is an Account with a Protocol of
> type NNTP. Select the relevant protocol, populate the newsserver box
> with the name of your desired server, and enter username and password.
news server. username and password? I thought newsgroups were public?
> Go to your newly created account, right click and select Subscribe to
> newsgroup. You'll get a list of groups.
I don't :( I get "Can't retrieve newsgroup list."
From lfiskgr at gmail.com Sat Sep 15 21:43:05 2018
From: lfiskgr at gmail.com (Leon Fisk)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 15:43:05 -0400
Subject: [Users] news reader
In-Reply-To: <20180915203240.4be5140f@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20180915172042.73e4decc@acer-suse.lan>
<20180915182239.682c97fa@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
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Message-ID: <5b9d60ce.1c69fb81.4478a.768c@mx.google.com>
On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 20:32:40 +0100
Dave Howorth wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 17:20:42 +0100
>> Dave Howorth wrote:
>>
>> Hello Dave,
>>
> [...]
>>
>> The only one you need to receive news is an Account with a Protocol of
>> type NNTP. Select the relevant protocol, populate the newsserver box
>> with the name of your desired server, and enter username and password.
>
>news server. username and password? I thought newsgroups were public?
>
>> Go to your newly created account, right click and select Subscribe to
>> newsgroup. You'll get a list of groups.
>
>I don't :( I get "Can't retrieve newsgroup list."
Yeah, sorta public but you need a provider to link with. In the old
days most ISP's provided Usenet with their service. Not so much
anymore. My ISP dropped Usenet several years ago. There are a few free
providers but you still need to sign up with them. As you can see in
the screen shot in my other post/answer I'm using Eternal September.
You can sign up with them if you wish here:
http://www.eternal-september.org/
You won't get anywhere until you have a provider/account set up :)
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Claws 3.16.0, Ubuntu Lucid
From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 15 23:17:29 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 21:17:29 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3747] Crash when exiting
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 15 23:20:20 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 21:20:20 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3747] Libcairo-2.dll 64-bit crashes often
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 15 23:24:04 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 21:24:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3791] Fancy plugin may hang on 0%
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From dave at howorth.org.uk Sun Sep 16 00:05:06 2018
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 23:05:06 +0100
Subject: [Users] [SOLVED] Re: news reader
In-Reply-To: <5b9d60ce.1c69fb81.4478a.768c@mx.google.com>
References: <20180915172042.73e4decc@acer-suse.lan>
<20180915182239.682c97fa@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 15:43:05 -0400
Leon Fisk wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 20:32:40 +0100
> Dave Howorth wrote:
>
> >> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 17:20:42 +0100
> >> Dave Howorth wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello Dave,
> >>
> > [...]
> >>
> >> The only one you need to receive news is an Account with a
> >> Protocol of type NNTP. Select the relevant protocol, populate the
> >> newsserver box with the name of your desired server, and enter
> >> username and password.
> >
> >news server. username and password? I thought newsgroups were public?
> >
> >> Go to your newly created account, right click and select Subscribe
> >> to newsgroup. You'll get a list of groups.
> >
> >I don't :( I get "Can't retrieve newsgroup list."
>
> Yeah, sorta public but you need a provider to link with. In the old
> days most ISP's provided Usenet with their service. Not so much
> anymore. My ISP dropped Usenet several years ago. There are a few free
> providers but you still need to sign up with them. As you can see in
> the screen shot in my other post/answer I'm using Eternal September.
> You can sign up with them if you wish here:
>
> http://www.eternal-september.org/
>
> You won't get anywhere until you have a provider/account set up :)
Thanks Leon. I understand what you're saying but its not applicable for
what I want. What did help was the screenshot in your other mail,
showing the syntax required for the server.
From myetto at gmail.com Sun Sep 16 00:13:51 2018
From: myetto at gmail.com (Michael A. Yetto)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 18:13:51 -0400
Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages
In-Reply-To: <20180915114349.1455dc53@pfortin.com>
References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com>
<20180914133328.28605d5d@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 11:43:49 -0400
Pierre Fortin writes, and having writ moves on:
>This thread was NOT about Dillo or Fancy. Please don't hijack
>threads...
The tread was about slow opening of emails, just as I noticed. No other
possibility was offered when I added the information oabout Dillo on my
system. No thread was hijacked even if the originator of the thread
doesn't like a turn taken before the direction was firmly established.
Mike Yetto
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was to talk about what he had blocked, stopped, frustrated,
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From pf at pfortin.com Sun Sep 16 00:39:05 2018
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 18:39:05 -0400
Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages
In-Reply-To: <20180915181351.5db63df4@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com>
<20180914133328.28605d5d@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
<20180915114349.1455dc53@pfortin.com>
<20180915181351.5db63df4@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
Message-ID: <20180915183905.670846e1@pfortin.com>
On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 18:13:51 -0400 Michael A. Yetto wrote:
>On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 11:43:49 -0400
>Pierre Fortin writes, and having writ moves on:
>
>>This thread was NOT about Dillo or Fancy. Please don't hijack
>>threads...
>
>The tread was about slow opening of emails, just as I noticed. No other
>possibility was offered when I added the information oabout Dillo on my
>system. No thread was hijacked even if the originator of the thread
>doesn't like a turn taken before the direction was firmly established.
>
>Mike Yetto
Respectfully, the subject still says "60 second **hangs**", implying
nothing is possible until a 60 second timer triggers. There was nothing
therein "about slow opening".
Pierre
From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 16 04:47:07 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 02:47:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4089] when running via su|ssh,
CM stalls for 60 seconds on each received message
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--- Comment #1 from Pierre Fortin ---
Created attachment 1917
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--debug output of test message processing
Patched CM instance 2 to add timestamps (except plugins).
This output shows 2 test messages arriving in different polls.
The first was sent by mailx and the 2nd from CM instance 1.
Message from:
mailx: no delay in processing
CM: 60 second hang
The full contents of these 2 messages are included at the end of this file.
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From brad at fineby.me.uk Sun Sep 16 07:58:34 2018
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 06:58:34 +0100
Subject: [Users] news reader
In-Reply-To: <20180915203240.4be5140f@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20180915172042.73e4decc@acer-suse.lan>
<20180915182239.682c97fa@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
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Message-ID: <20180916065834.358e8705@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 20:32:40 +0100
Dave Howorth wrote:
Hello Dave,
>news server. username and password? I thought newsgroups were public?
As you've read from others; Some are, some aren't.
Even then, many now still require that you authenticate. Even if it's
only because they want to monetise the service, somehow.
As an aside, back when anonymous ftp was common, when logging in as
'anonymous', anything put in the password field would work (including
nothing), but the convention was to use your email address.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 16 11:40:11 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 09:40:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4089] when running via su|ssh,
CM stalls for 60 seconds on each received message
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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 09:40:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4089] when running via su|ssh,
CM stalls for 60 seconds on each received message
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 16 11:45:54 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 09:45:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4089] when running via su|ssh,
CM stalls for 60 seconds on each received message
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--- Comment #2 from Paul ---
as was already suggested on the mailing list, disable the notification plugin
as it is libnotify that appears to be causing the delay.
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From myetto at gmail.com Sun Sep 16 15:42:58 2018
From: myetto at gmail.com (Michael A. Yetto)
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 09:42:58 -0400
Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages
In-Reply-To: <20180915183905.670846e1@pfortin.com>
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 18:39:05 -0400
Pierre Fortin writes, and having writ moves on:
>On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 18:13:51 -0400 Michael A. Yetto wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 11:43:49 -0400
>>Pierre Fortin writes, and having writ moves on:
>>
>>>This thread was NOT about Dillo or Fancy. Please don't hijack
>>>threads...
>>
>>The tread was about slow opening of emails, just as I noticed. No
>>other possibility was offered when I added the information oabout
>>Dillo on my system. No thread was hijacked even if the originator of
>>the thread doesn't like a turn taken before the direction was firmly
>>established.
>>
>>Mike Yetto
>
>Respectfully, the subject still says "60 second **hangs**", implying
>nothing is possible until a 60 second timer triggers. There was
>nothing therein "about slow opening".
>
My reply was not off-topic just because I did not use the exact same
phrasing as you did. Nor was it off-topic because my guess as to the
cause was Dillo and its plugin rather than SpamAssasin and its plugin.
Nor was it off-topic because the delay in opening emails or doing
anything else was not an exact 60 seconds, but "at least a minute each
time."
My responses were no more off-topic than yours. Get over yourself and
end of conversation.
Mike Yetto
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 17 13:24:48 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 11:24:48 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4039] 3.13.2 kills 3.16.0-1 (?)
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--- Comment #5 from zctemhei at vomoto.com ---
Hi Andrej, thank you for your kind advice!
Two things I want to mention, in case somebody else has to go that route too:
1) I had to increase protocoll number from 0 to 3, to have IMAP instead of POP
back again.
2) Could not find a file passwordrc, but one called passwordstorerc. Seemd to
be the right one.
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Mon Sep 17 15:32:49 2018
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 14:32:49 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.17.1-1 for Windows unleashed
In-Reply-To: <20180914230422.12d40fd4@penny>
References: <20180914230422.12d40fd4@penny>
Message-ID: <20180917143249.00000a94@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 23:04:22 +0200
Andrej Kacian wrote:
> 14th September 2018 Claws Mail 3.17.1-1
> CLAWS MAIL FOR WINDOWS RELEASE NOTES
> http://www.claws-mail.org/win32
>
> Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast
> email client.
>
> See http://www.claws-mail.org/news.php for full information
> regarding changes since the previous release.
>
> Changes specific to the Windows release are:
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> * Some supporting libraries have been updated to more recent
> versions:
> o gnutls from 3.5.18 to 3.6.3
> o libexpat from 2.2.5 to 2.2.6
> o curl from 7.59.0 to 7.61.0
> o glib from 2.54.3 to 2.56.2
> o harfbuzz from 1.3.3 to 1.8.8
> o libpng from 1.6.29 to 1.6.34
> o libgpg-error from 1.27 to 1.29
> o libgcrypt from 1.8.2 to 1.8.3
>
Thanks Andrej, now using the 32 bit version and will report any
problems.
No obvious problems so far.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 17 22:25:55 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 20:25:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4089] when running via su|ssh,
CM stalls for 60 seconds on each received message
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--- Comment #3 from Pierre Fortin ---
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modified debug output
Continued testing. Added various debug_print statements and discovered 60
second delay is really 35 seconds and 25 seconds.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 17 22:34:44 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 20:34:44 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4089] when running via su|ssh,
CM stalls for 60 seconds on each received message
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Correction: 80s = 25s + 25s + 10s
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 17 23:24:55 2018
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Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 21:24:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4089] when running via su|ssh,
CM stalls for 60 seconds on each received message
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 00:04:45 2018
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Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 22:04:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on
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Another feed for which deleted items reappear as unread:
http://rss.frognews.bg/
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 05:54:55 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 03:54:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4089] when running via su|ssh,
CM stalls for 60 seconds on each received message
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--- Comment #5 from Pierre Fortin ---
Found the 25+25+10 second delays; but I don't know how to fix these; yet...
The first 25 second delay occurs in notification_trayicon.c:662
caps = notify_get_server_caps();
which is getting a GList and looking for "actions".
Added notify_is_initted() test which returns TRUE just before that call.
The second 25 second delay occurs in notification_trayicon.c:739
if(!notify_notification_show(popup.notification, &(popup.error))) {
The 10 second delay occurs in notification_trayicon.c:743
g_object_unref(G_OBJECT(popup.notification));
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 09:28:54 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 07:28:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on
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--- Comment #22 from Paul ---
(In reply to comment #21)
> Another feed for which deleted items reappear as unread:
>
> http://rss.frognews.bg/
No such problem with this feed for me. Which version of claws-mail are you
using now?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 10:34:02 2018
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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 08:34:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on
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[~]: /opt/claws-mail/bin/claws-mail -V
Claws Mail version 3.17.0-53-g102ceb
runtime GTK+ 2.24.32 / GLib 2.54.3
buildtime GTK+ 2.24.32 / GLib 2.54.3
Compiled-in features:
compface
Enchant
GnuTLS
IPv6
iconv
LDAP
libetpan 1.8
libSM
NetworkManager
librSVG 2.42.3
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 11:46:53 2018
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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 09:46:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4087] Unloading Python crashes CM
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--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones ---
Problem is not caused by the python plugin unload, but because you're running a
'shutdown' script. Removing or renaming 'shutdown' will workaround the problem.
Regarding the crash itself maybe this can shed some light:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3654652/why-does-the-python-c-api-crash-on-pyrun-simplefile
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 11:50:59 2018
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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 09:50:59 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4088] spurious message when starting
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--- Comment #2 from Ricardo Mones ---
You probably need to run "claws-mail --debug" or even "strace claws-mail
--debug" to try locate where those are written.
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From crlipton at gol.com Tue Sep 18 12:05:11 2018
From: crlipton at gol.com (Charles Lipton)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 19:05:11 +0900
Subject: [Users] Claws 3.17 and Dillo
Message-ID: <20180918190511.3b6ca931@onk-01.LPTN_LAN01>
I installed version 3.17 on Debian Stretch in an attempt to solve a
problem with HTML rendering. Fancy was replaced by Dillo and a whole
new set of problems has begun:
1. Dillo does not render CJK (Chinese-Japanese-Korean) fonts in mixed
HTML documents such as ads or business offers. Installed font for
Claws is a TrueType CJK font named IPAP Gothic, a standard Debian
installed font. It works well with non-HTML mail.
Is there a multilingual workaround, or is Dillo Latin text only? I
work in several realms in which I have to read and comment on
peer-reviewed articles and commentary. I need CJK capability in an HTML
reader.
When viewing just a text-only HTML document, the text typed in shows as
white blocks, as in the attached example. As you can also see from
that that screenshot, the subject titles show clearly, the text does
not.
In sales (advertorial) HTML pages, the typed comments between saved
blocks of advertorial text (photos / logos / artistically arranged
type) the contents of the saved blocks can be read, but the typed-in
comments, headlines, etc. are white squares with black or colored
borders.
2. Photos from local (e.g. from Asia and Australasian sources) load,
while photos from most European and North American sources do not.
Is there a way to force all photos to load?
3. With Fancy, page widths were always constrained so that content was
always within borders and margins were even and straight. Dillo allows
logos, texts, and images to stretch all the way across the Claws
viewing area.
Is there a way to constrain widths in mails in which margins were not
set by the sender?
4. That baby-shit brown background ... is there a way to set it for a
different color ... or, better yet, white?
Thank you in advance for any advice and assistance.
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From rol at witbe.net Tue Sep 18 12:17:30 2018
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:17:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws 3.17 and Dillo
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References: <20180918190511.3b6ca931@onk-01.LPTN_LAN01>
Message-ID: <20180918121730.623b629b@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
Hello,
On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 19:05:11 +0900
Charles Lipton wrote:
> I installed version 3.17 on Debian Stretch in an attempt to solve a
> problem with HTML rendering. Fancy was replaced by Dillo and a whole
> new set of problems has begun:
I'm using 3.17, self-compiled, and I have Fancy, not Dillo... have you
checked if you can unload Dillo and load Fancy, as it seems it was
performing better for you ?
Paul
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 13:46:45 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 11:46:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply
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--- Comment #18 from Michal Suchánek ---
(In reply to comment #11)
> Created attachment 1913 [details]
> potential fix
>
> Michal, try this patch.
I cannot reproduce the problem with this patch applied.
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From msuchanek at suse.de Tue Sep 18 13:50:15 2018
From: msuchanek at suse.de (Michal =?UTF-8?B?U3VjaMOhbmVr?=)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 13:50:15 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in
reply
In-Reply-To: <20180913122328.7c9bf040@localhost>
References:
<20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan>
<20180913120302.08a138d7@localhost>
<20180913131529.44cf0819@naga.suse.cz>
<20180913122328.7c9bf040@localhost>
Message-ID: <20180918135015.06ccff5b@naga.suse.cz>
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:23:28 -0000
Paul wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 13:15:29 +0200
> Michal Suchánek wrote:
>
> > Don't understand what you are saying. Can you say what is the
> > behaviour expected by you in detail? Also how does it work with
> > reply-all?
> >
> > Either way the code as is is bogus. It coalesces information from
> > multiple messages to create an addressee list which is clearly
> > bogus.
> >
> > It pretends to reply to one message while quoting another which is
> > clearly bogus as well.
>
> No need to reply to me and the mailing list - you have to be
> subscribed to post, so just reply to the mailing list.
AFAICT claws does not have per-list reply settings so I use reply-all
all the time which works with all lists.
>
> Be aware that I agree that right-clicking a message and choosing
> reply should reply to that right-clicked message.
>
> The suse patch was no good, as it fixed one thing and broke a couple
> others. It needs to fix the issue without breaking anything else,
> (obviously!).
It fixes sending mail to random people unrelated to the message which
can be considered security issue. On the other hand it breaks some
features in an obvious and easy to workaround way. I would say it's an
improvement.
Thanks
Michal
From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 14:17:39 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:17:39 -0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in
reply
In-Reply-To: <20180918135015.06ccff5b@naga.suse.cz>
References:
<20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan>
<20180913120302.08a138d7@localhost>
<20180913131529.44cf0819@naga.suse.cz>
<20180913122328.7c9bf040@localhost>
<20180918135015.06ccff5b@naga.suse.cz>
Message-ID: <20180918131739.1685734b@localhost>
On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 13:50:15 +0200
Michal Suchánek wrote:
> AFAICT claws does not have per-list reply settings so I use
> reply-all all the time which works with all lists.
See /Comfiguration/Preferences/Compose/Writing, 'Reply invokes
mailing list reply'.
See /Message/Reply to/Mailing List.
See /Message/Mailing List/...
Failing those, you can create a folder for a mailing list, filter the
messages into it, and then use the Folder Properties to set the
correct address.
> It fixes sending mail to random people unrelated to the message
> which can be considered security issue. On the other hand it breaks
> some features in an obvious and easy to workaround way. I would say
> it's an improvement.
That's where we differ. It's not about sending messages, but about
composing them. Arguably, the current situation is easy to avoid.
Sure it improves one thing and breaks 2 others, that makes a score of
-1 to me :) Since we know that your patch breaks things, it can't
possibly be accepted.
Anyway, Colin's patch is getting close to fixing it, (it also doesn't
break anything), some more work and it will be good.
with regards
Paul
From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 14:25:49 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:25:49 -0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in
reply
In-Reply-To: <20180918131739.1685734b@localhost>
References:
<20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan>
<20180913120302.08a138d7@localhost>
<20180913131529.44cf0819@naga.suse.cz>
<20180913122328.7c9bf040@localhost>
<20180918135015.06ccff5b@naga.suse.cz>
<20180918131739.1685734b@localhost>
Message-ID: <20180918132549.010e5c5b@localhost>
On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:17:39 -0000
Paul wrote:
> Sure it improves one thing and breaks 2 others
To be clear, 'it' here refers to your patch.
with regards
Paul
From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 14:47:06 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:47:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply
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--- Comment #19 from Paul ---
(In reply to comment #18)
>
> I cannot reproduce the problem with this patch applied.
Thanks for the test, but I spotted a couple problems with it after posting it
here. Colin's patch is some steps in the right direction, although not yet
without problems - e.g. main menu reply acts differently from toolbar button
reply.
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From shai at platonix.com Tue Sep 18 14:49:35 2018
From: shai at platonix.com (Shai Berger)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 15:49:35 +0300
Subject: [Users] Claws 3.17 and Dillo
In-Reply-To: <20180918190511.3b6ca931@onk-01.LPTN_LAN01>
References: <20180918190511.3b6ca931@onk-01.LPTN_LAN01>
Message-ID: <20180918154918.5dbc552e.shai@platonix.com>
On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 19:05:11 +0900
Charles Lipton wrote:
> 1. Dillo does not render CJK (Chinese-Japanese-Korean) fonts in mixed
> HTML documents such as ads or business offers. Installed font for
> Claws is a TrueType CJK font named IPAP Gothic, a standard Debian
> installed font. It works well with non-HTML mail.
>
FWIW, I just checked dillo (not even the plugin -- as a stand-alone
browser), and it fails to handle bidirectional text -- that is, it
renders Hebrew left-to-right. I would expect little there, as far as
internationalization goes.
Shai.
From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 16:28:36 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:28:36 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4087] Unloading Python crashes CM
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--- Comment #2 from Pierre Fortin ---
startup and shutdown scripts in ~/.claws-mail/python-scripts/auto do not cause
this crash. Rather, with ONLY compose_any in .../auto containing only "import
re" (all else commented) crashes CM
#!/usr/bin/env python
# save this as ~/.claws-mail/python-scripts/auto/compose_any
# Workaround for R: in reply headers
import re
#clawsmail.compose_window.set_subject(re.sub(
# r"^(Re|Fwd|Fw): R:", r"\1:",
# clawsmail.compose_window.get_subject()
# ))
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 16:36:17 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:36:17 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4087] Unloading Python crashes CM
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--- Comment #3 from Ricardo Mones ---
What does "/usr/bin/env python --version" output on your system?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 16:38:48 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:38:48 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4087] Unloading Python crashes CM
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--- Comment #4 from Pierre Fortin ---
$ python
Python 2.7.15 (default, May 1 2018, 17:08:05)
[GCC 5.4.0] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import re
>>>
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 16:46:25 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:46:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4087] Unloading Python crashes CM
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--- Comment #5 from Ricardo Mones ---
That's not the command I wrote :-)
Anyway it's strange because here it works fine with:
Python 2.7.13 (default, Nov 24 2017, 17:33:09)
[GCC 6.3.0 20170516] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>
And I have a more elaborated script on compose_any which adds some menu
entries, and which is not executable and without the shebang line... maybe
worth a test?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 17:14:21 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 15:14:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4087] Unloading Python crashes CM
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--- Comment #6 from Pierre Fortin ---
Ok... :)
$ /usr/bin/env python --version
Python 2.7.15
I also included "import re" to show it works there...
The shebang is the problem... I changed it to:
##!/usr/bin/env python
and the crash doesn't occur. Normally, the shell uses the shebang; CM
shouldn't, should it?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 17:34:32 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 15:34:32 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4087] Unloading Python crashes CM
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--- Comment #7 from Pierre Fortin ---
What the....??? Copied the original script back in, and now it doesn't
crash...
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 17:39:53 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 15:39:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4087] Unloading Python crashes CM
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--- Comment #8 from Pierre Fortin ---
Freaking weird... copied startup & shutdown back in and the crash returned.
Yet, comment out the shebang line in compose_any and the crashes stop...
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 17:49:51 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 15:49:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4087] Unloading Python crashes CM
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--- Comment #9 from Michael Rasmussen ---
(In reply to comment #8)
> Freaking weird... copied startup & shutdown back in and the crash returned.
> Yet, comment out the shebang line in compose_any and the crashes stop...
Maybe this problem?
https://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-bom.en
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 19:09:10 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 17:09:10 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on
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--- Comment #24 from Removed after GDPR request ---
Right after my previous reply I deleted again all messages for that feed and
now I refreshed it. The oldest message I see is with time:
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 15:39:31 GMT
+ there are others with timestamps from before my previous reply.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 19:10:07 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 17:10:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4087] Unloading Python crashes CM
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--- Comment #10 from Pierre Fortin ---
Created attachment 1920
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strace
Nope; no utf-8 chars at beginning. First char in all 3 files is "#" 0x23;
although startup & shutdown have:
# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
as their first lines -- which is only(?) used as a directive to an editor such
as emacs...
see strace output -- coincidence?: last read()=8 and si_addr=0x8...
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 20:21:06 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:21:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on
feed refreshing
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--- Comment #25 from Andrej Kacian ---
I suggest upgrading to latest git version - I just made some changes to how
feed item timestamps are handled, perhaps it will help you here. You will
probably see some items duplicated, that is a one-time glitch caused by the
change.
That said, I couldn't reproduce the described issue with the frognews feed even
before this. Deleted items stay deleted, only newly published items appear
after a feed refresh.
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From msuchanek at suse.de Tue Sep 18 21:54:21 2018
From: msuchanek at suse.de (Michal =?UTF-8?B?U3VjaMOhbmVr?=)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 21:54:21 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in
reply
In-Reply-To: <20180918131739.1685734b@localhost>
References:
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<20180913120302.08a138d7@localhost>
<20180913131529.44cf0819@naga.suse.cz>
<20180913122328.7c9bf040@localhost>
<20180918135015.06ccff5b@naga.suse.cz>
<20180918131739.1685734b@localhost>
Message-ID: <20180918215421.2828e47c@naga.suse.cz>
On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:17:39 -0000
Paul wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 13:50:15 +0200
> Michal Suchánek wrote:
>
> > AFAICT claws does not have per-list reply settings so I use
> > reply-all all the time which works with all lists.
>
> See /Comfiguration/Preferences/Compose/Writing, 'Reply invokes
> mailing list reply'.
What do you not understand about per-list? That's global setting, not
per-list. Some lists work like that, some do not.
>
> See /Message/Reply to/Mailing List.
>
> See /Message/Mailing List/...
So claws already knows what mailing list the message belongs to. If it
can set default reply option based on that it might work better.
However, it seems you can only choose between reply-sender and
reply-list as default. I want to choose between reply-list and
reply-all which does not seem to be supported at all (or making
reply-all the default for that matter). So I always invoke reply-all
manually overriding the default so what the default is is completely
irrelevant.
>
> Failing those, you can create a folder for a mailing list, filter the
> messages into it, and then use the Folder Properties to set the
> correct address.
But that forces me to create separate folder which is not something I
want.
>
> > It fixes sending mail to random people unrelated to the message
> > which can be considered security issue. On the other hand it breaks
> > some features in an obvious and easy to workaround way. I would say
> > it's an improvement.
>
> That's where we differ. It's not about sending messages, but about
> composing them.
And composing messages is about what? You stack them into your drawer
and never send them?
> Arguably, the current situation is easy to avoid.
It is not. claws gives you a reply window with bogus data - a message
with addresses from another message. Unless you carefully check each
message you compose you send messages to wrong people. The case when a
feature just fails completely is much easier to workaround.
Thanks
Michal
From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 22:10:05 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 20:10:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on
feed refreshing
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Thanks Andrej. Updated and will keep an eye on it.
> I couldn't reproduce the described issue with the frognews feed
I have been thinking: Do you think this may be because we may be in different
time zones (and CM not handling that properly)?
Right now I am deleting all in frognews again at:
[~]: date
Tue Sep 18 23:09:28 EEST 2018
Will check how things are tomorrow.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 23:23:56 2018
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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 21:23:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on
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[~]: date
Wed Sep 19 00:21:19 EEST 2018
Refreshing the feed shows me 2 old messages as unread:
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:32:18 GMT
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:41:57 GMT
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 23:56:41 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 21:56:41 -0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in
reply
In-Reply-To: <20180918215421.2828e47c@naga.suse.cz>
References:
<20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan>
<20180913120302.08a138d7@localhost>
<20180913131529.44cf0819@naga.suse.cz>
<20180913122328.7c9bf040@localhost>
<20180918135015.06ccff5b@naga.suse.cz>
<20180918131739.1685734b@localhost>
<20180918215421.2828e47c@naga.suse.cz>
Message-ID: <20180918225641.19575994@localhost>
On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 21:54:21 +0200
Michal Suchánek wrote:
> What do you not understand about per-list? That's global setting,
> not per-list. Some lists work like that, some do not.
Yes, it's a global setting, and it works for all mailing lists that
set the default list headers.
> >
> > See /Message/Reply to/Mailing List.
> >
> > See /Message/Mailing List/...
>
> So I always invoke reply-all
Yes, and this is the third or fourth time I'm asking you not
to send your reply to me and the list, but just send it to the list.
You should also respect the Reply-To header if the sender sets it,
and use that. Blanket reply-all does not respect that either.
> >
> > Failing those, you can create a folder for a mailing list, filter
> > the messages into it, and then use the Folder Properties to set
> > the correct address.
>
> But that forces me to create separate folder which is not something
> I want.
No, those mailing lists that don't use the standard list headers (or
explicit Reply-To: list-addr) force you do that.
> > Arguably, the current situation is easy to avoid.
>
> It is not.
Well, I said 'arguably'. Your argument is that it is not easy to
avoid, mine is that it is. But, anyway, as you know by now, your
patch was inadequate and a better patch is being prepared.
with regards
Paul
From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 23:58:55 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 21:58:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on
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--- Comment #28 from Paul ---
(In reply to comment #26)
> I have been thinking: Do you think this may be because we may be in
> different time zones (and CM not handling that properly)?
Do you have reason to think that CM does not handle timezones properly? I
don't. For example, I use a different timezone from Andrej, but neither of us
could reproduce your problem.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 00:13:46 2018
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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 22:13:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on
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screenshot for feed settings
> Do you have reason to think that CM does not handle timezones properly?
I was just speculating around the facts and wondering what may be different
between you guys and me. So the time zone difference was the only one I could
think about.
Another thing: are we using the same settings for the feed? I am attaching a
screenshot of mine.
Also: are you doing the same as me? I.e.
1. Delete all messages
2. Wait a few hours
3. Refresh the feed
If the answer to both questions is yes - it is a real mystery and I am open to
suggestions about how to investigate further.
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From kae at midnighthax.com Wed Sep 19 07:41:07 2018
From: kae at midnighthax.com (Keith Edmunds)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 06:41:07 +0100
Subject: [Users] Updating Google calendar from Claws
Message-ID: <20180919064107.02bd7981@ws.midnighthax.com>
I'm using the vCalendar plugin. When a calendar invitation arrives,
there's an "Action" box where I can "Accept" the invite.
Is there any way of linking this to Google calendar? There are two
situations that can arise: when someone within my Google GSuite invites me
to a meeting, and when someone external does. The former will create a
pending invite in Google calendar, and the latter won't. I'd like claws to
mark the invite as accepted in the first instance, and to create a
calendar entry in the second.
Thanks.
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From removed-gdpr at example.com Wed Sep 19 09:49:51 2018
From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:49:51 +0300
Subject: [Users] Deleting whole threads
Message-ID: <20180919104951.7cb1690a@localhost>
Hi,
I have a processing rule which auto deletes messages
which are "ignore_thread & age_greater 30". But I
suppose it would result in thread being partially
deleted if there are messages in the same thread which
are with age of 20 days.
I wonder: is there a way to delete a whole ignored
thread instead based on the age of the first (or
last) message in it? If not - do you think it would be
a useful feature request?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 15:55:43 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 13:55:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4090] New: Claws crashes on Windows 10 Pro (1803)
Message-ID:
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Bug ID: 4090
Summary: Claws crashes on Windows 10 Pro (1803)
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
Version: 3.16.0
Hardware: PC
OS: Windows 10
Status: NEW
Severity: major
Priority: P3
Component: default
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: mrmangas at gmail.com
Hello,
In our company we are using Windows 10 Pro (1803) with Claws-Mail x64 client.
It crashes all by itself after some time (1 - 2 hours after launching). I don't
have to do a single thing (not even a click) and it turns off just like that,
and I have to launch it again.
I just updated it from v. 3.16.0 to 3.16.3 and after few days to 3.17.1. It
remains the same, still crashes.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 17:38:58 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 15:38:58 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on
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--- Comment #30 from Removed after GDPR request ---
Here is another feed which shows the issue:
http://www.bacula.org/git/cgit.cgi/bacula/atom/?h=Branch-9.2
5-6 hours ago I deleted all messages in it. Now I refreshed it and it shows me
old messages, oldest one is from:
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2018 05:22:04 GMT
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 17:52:37 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 15:52:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4091] New: Buttons and shortcuts for quick search
Message-ID:
https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4091
Bug ID: 4091
Summary: Buttons and shortcuts for quick search
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail
Version: GIT
Hardware: PC
OS: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: enhancement
Priority: P3
Component: QuickSearch
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com
I find myself often using the same quick searches I used recently (which of
course show in the dropdown).
It would be great if one could create custom button(s) for specific quick
search which could appear for example in the bar between message list and
message view. Being able to assign shortcut keys for toggling those would be
even better.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 18:57:12 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 16:57:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4092] New: Consolidated search result message list
Message-ID:
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Bug ID: 4092
Summary: Consolidated search result message list
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail
Version: GIT
Hardware: PC
OS: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: enhancement
Priority: P3
Component: QuickSearch
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com
It would be very useful to have an option to see all messages (from subfolders
etc) found using search in a consolidated message list.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 19:05:32 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:05:32 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4093] New: Improve/enhance the visual cue of folders
containing messages found by quick search
Message-ID:
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Bug ID: 4093
Summary: Improve/enhance the visual cue of folders containing
messages found by quick search
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail
Version: GIT
Hardware: PC
OS: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: enhancement
Priority: P3
Component: UI/Folder List
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com
Currently recursive quick search adds a thin line loupe on the folders
containing messages matching search criteria. If the folder has no subfolders
(so that it can also show a "+" after folder name) that seems a vague visual
hint, especially when using breeze theme.
It would be good to have some more prominent visual style for folders
containing found messages (e.g. colored background of the line containing the
folder name, maybe yellow?)
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 19:15:03 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:15:03 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4093] Improve/enhance the visual cue of folders
containing messages found by quick search
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--- Comment #1 from djh ---
I'd second this request. I've often thought a different colour or bold text
would make it easier to spot matches than a small magnifying glass icon.
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From usenet at karmasailing.uk Wed Sep 19 19:22:31 2018
From: usenet at karmasailing.uk (Bob Williams)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 18:22:31 +0100
Subject: [Users] Proton Mail bridge
Message-ID: <20180919182231.470ca3ce@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
Is anyone else testing ProtonMail Bridge?
I find that Claws-Mail crashes when switching folders in my ProtonMail account. Apparently Bridge works OK with Thunderbird, so I wonder if the problem is in CM? I'm using version 3.17.1 from the openSUSE build.opensuse.org/server:mail repository
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 19:24:51 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:24:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4093] Improve/enhance the visual cue of folders
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> or bold text
Bold is currently the style for unread, so if it is used for search matches too
it would be ambiguous and cause additional confusion.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 19:30:28 2018
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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:30:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4093] Improve/enhance the visual cue of folders
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example
Here is an example of what it may look like (suppose Inbox and Sent contain
matches)
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From ticho at claws-mail.org Wed Sep 19 20:45:22 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 20:45:22 +0200
Subject: [Users] Proton Mail bridge
In-Reply-To: <20180919182231.470ca3ce@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
References: <20180919182231.470ca3ce@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
Message-ID: <20180919204522.795979b4@penny>
On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 18:22:31 +0100
Bob Williams wrote:
> Is anyone else testing ProtonMail Bridge?
>
> I find that Claws-Mail crashes when switching folders in my ProtonMail account. Apparently Bridge works OK with Thunderbird, so I wonder if the problem is in CM? I'm using version 3.17.1 from the openSUSE build.opensuse.org/server:mail repository
>
It's probably this:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4016
Get openSUSE to update their version of libetpan package, newer releases
have this bug fixed.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 20:57:24 2018
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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 18:57:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4090] Claws crashes on Windows 10 Pro (1803)
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--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian ---
Does the 32-bit version crash as well?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 21:06:55 2018
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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 19:06:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4090] Claws crashes on Windows 10 Pro (1803)
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--- Comment #2 from Lucas ---
I don't know. I didn't try it.
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From usenet at karmasailing.uk Wed Sep 19 21:15:50 2018
From: usenet at karmasailing.uk (Bob Williams)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 20:15:50 +0100
Subject: [Users] Proton Mail bridge
In-Reply-To: <20180919204522.795979b4@penny>
References: <20180919182231.470ca3ce@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
<20180919204522.795979b4@penny>
Message-ID: <20180919201550.464145bd@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 20:45:22 +0200
Andrej Kacian wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 18:22:31 +0100
> Bob Williams wrote:
>
> > Is anyone else testing ProtonMail Bridge?
> >
> > I find that Claws-Mail crashes when switching folders in my
> > ProtonMail account. Apparently Bridge works OK with Thunderbird, so
> > I wonder if the problem is in CM? I'm using version 3.17.1 from the
> > openSUSE build.opensuse.org/server:mail repository
>
> It's probably this:
> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4016
>
> Get openSUSE to update their version of libetpan package, newer
> releases have this bug fixed.
>
> Regards,
Many thanks Andrej. I'll chase openSUSE.
Bob
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 21:43:10 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 19:43:10 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4087] Unloading Python crashes CM
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--- Comment #11 from Shai Berger ---
(In reply to comment #10)
> Nope; no utf-8 chars at beginning. First char in all 3 files is "#" 0x23;
> although startup & shutdown have:
> # -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
> as their first lines -- which is only(?) used as a directive to an editor
> such as emacs...
>
No, they are used by the Python interpreter, in case you want to include
anything that isn't ASCII in your script. Not sure this has anything to do with
the actual problem, just wanted to clarify.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 20 09:13:58 2018
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 07:13:58 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4091] Buttons and shortcuts for quick search
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Abhay S. Kushwaha changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE
--- Comment #1 from Abhay S. Kushwaha ---
*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 2810 ***
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 07:13:58 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2810] "QuickSearch Button Bar" plugin
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--- Comment #3 from Abhay S. Kushwaha ---
*** Bug 4091 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 20 09:23:40 2018
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 07:23:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4092] Consolidated search result message list
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--- Comment #1 from Abhay S. Kushwaha ---
*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 2250 ***
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 07:23:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2250] Virtual folders
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*** Bug 4092 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 20 09:28:19 2018
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 07:28:19 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3757] Status not save before restart OS
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--- Comment #1 from Abhay S. Kushwaha ---
This information is called "metadata".
See Preferences -> Other -> Miscellaneous -> Metadata handling
Claws Mail requires clean exits anyway, so ideally you should exit Claws Mail,
and actually even other software before shutting down/restarting OS.
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From subscript at free.fr Thu Sep 20 22:17:07 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:17:07 +0200
Subject: [Users] [PATCH] quicksearch: expand extended symbols on "Edit"
In-Reply-To: <20180828180422.1d51a098@jjacky.com>
References: <20170610210902.14289-1-jjk@jjacky.com>
<20170610232351.414528e4@anthra>
<20170610235549.397d0acd@jjacky.com>
<20170611000759.33c89cae@anthra>
<20180828180422.1d51a098@jjacky.com>
Message-ID: <20180920221707.352574de@ladybug>
Hello Olivier,
On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 18:04:22 +0200 Olivier Brunel wrote:
> Bump; And a rebased on 3.17 just in case.
Merged, thanks!
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 21 14:37:40 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 12:37:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on
feed refreshing
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3971
--- Comment #31 from Removed after GDPR request ---
Update about frognews:
Today I tried something different. I marked all messages as read and after 2-3
hours I refreshed the feed:
Result: For some messages new duplicates appeared as unread (identical
timestamps_. Checking the content of those messages I see one difference: The
URL has changed. Looking at http://rss.frognews.bg/ though shows the particular
message only once.
I wonder if "Never mark it as new" may be failing and causing this particular
issue.
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From derekn at foolabs.com Fri Sep 21 23:09:28 2018
From: derekn at foolabs.com (Derek B. Noonburg)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 14:09:28 -0700
Subject: [Users] key binding mysteriously changing
Message-ID: <20180921140928.5c8a3464@numbat>
This is a weird little problem... I removed the key binding for
ctrl-W in the compose window (by navigating to Message -> Close and
hitting the Delete key). That works fine, and is reflected
in .claws-mail/menurc.
However, at some point later, the binding mysteriously reverts back to
the default (i.e., ctrl-W is once again bound to Message -> Close).
I have no idea how to debug this. If I delete the binding, quit claws,
and restart it, it's fine. The re-binding only seems to happen some
indeterminate time later. I have no idea what's triggering it.
I've seen this with 3.17.0 and 3.17.1, both compiled from source, on
Linux.
Has anyone seen anything like this? Any suggestions on how to track it
down?
- Derek
From chris2014 at postbox.xyz Sat Sep 22 09:42:35 2018
From: chris2014 at postbox.xyz (Chris)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 09:42:35 +0200
Subject: [Users] Watch Threads
Message-ID: <20180922094235.0725a7b2@cd>
All,
maybe a simple question: how to read watched threads? Is there any
filter, list or notification?
- Chris
From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 22 10:45:35 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 08:45:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4094] New: Provide visual cue and save reminder for
changed filter/processing rules
Message-ID:
https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4094
Bug ID: 4094
Summary: Provide visual cue and save reminder for changed
filter/processing rules
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail
Version: GIT
Hardware: PC
OS: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: enhancement
Priority: P3
Component: Filtering
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com
Currently when a filter or processing rule is changed one needs to click the
"Replace" button to save the change. However it is possible that one has edited
the rule and forgot to click "Replace" in which case the changes are simply
lost without undo (which can be annoying). So nothing provides a way to:
- remind the user of unsaved changes
- see that the rule has been changed
It would be good to have:
- a reminder which shows up if a rule is not saved
- a visual cue indicating that the rule has been changed but not saved (e.g.
make the line bold)
This suggestion is also for the sub-dialogs for condition and action editing
where the situation is the same.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 22 10:51:40 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 08:51:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4095] New: Provide visual indication for filter rules
with move/stop action
Message-ID:
https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4095
Bug ID: 4095
Summary: Provide visual indication for filter rules with
move/stop action
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail
Version: GIT
Hardware: PC
OS: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: enhancement
Priority: P3
Component: Filtering
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com
Considering that Claws Mail stops processing next filter rules if there is a
match for a rule with a move/stop action, it would be useful to have visual
indication for those particular rules (and/or for those which don't move/stop).
For example a different text color/background/icon for those rules. This would
be helpful to assign correct order of rules easier.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 22 10:54:35 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 08:54:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4094] Provide visual cue and save reminder for changed
filter/processing rules
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https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4094
--- Comment #1 from Removed after GDPR request ---
To clarify: this is a suggestion about individual rules when one switches from
one (edited) rule to another (I know there is a global reminder if one tries to
exit the rule editing interface if the currently selected rule has been edited
but that's different)
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From removed-gdpr at example.com Sat Sep 22 12:08:59 2018
From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed after GDPR request)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 13:08:59 +0300
Subject: [Users] Using RSS and NNTP through TOR
Message-ID: <20180922130859.6d1603da@localhost>
Hi,
I have been looking for a way to use RSS and NNTP
through TOR. The tor system service is started however
setting 127.0.0.1:9050 as socks5 proxy for the NNTP
account results in:
*** Error logging in to news.gmane.org:563...
*** Error creating session with news.gmane.org:563
I couldn't even find a way to set a proxy for RSSyl.
How can I do all that? (mail should work without proxy)
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From ticho at claws-mail.org Sat Sep 22 13:46:02 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 13:46:02 +0200
Subject: [Users] Using RSS and NNTP through TOR
In-Reply-To: <20180922130859.6d1603da@localhost>
References: <20180922130859.6d1603da@localhost>
Message-ID: <20180922134602.4e5bdfd2@penny>
On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 13:08:59 +0300
George wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have been looking for a way to use RSS and NNTP
> through TOR. The tor system service is started however
> setting 127.0.0.1:9050 as socks5 proxy for the NNTP
> account results in:
>
> *** Error logging in to news.gmane.org:563...
> *** Error creating session with news.gmane.org:563
>
> I couldn't even find a way to set a proxy for RSSyl.
>
> How can I do all that? (mail should work without proxy)
>
For NNTP, SOCKS5 proxy works just fine over here, although I'm using
Dante as my proxy server, not Tor. What does --debug output say when
trying to connect?
As for RSSyl, right now, probably only setting http_proxy and
https_proxy environment variables to "socks5://proxy:port" will work.
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From bugs.michael at gmx.net Sat Sep 22 15:32:55 2018
From: bugs.michael at gmx.net (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 15:32:55 +0200
Subject: [Users] SNI and Google Mail self-signed certificate for IMAP
Message-ID: <20180922153255.4e515ed0@noname>
Both Claws Mail 3.16.0 and 3.17.1, which don't exhibit the same
symptoms on Fedora 28, on Fedora 29 only get offered a self-signed
certificate when contacting Google Mail IMAP using gnutls.
It is not clear to me yet what exactly has changed and whether
the theory that it is related to SNI is correct. Why would the same
package be affected only on F29 and not F28?
Is anything known about this yet?
$ strings ~/.claws-mail/certs/imap.gmail.com.993.cert
0N110/
(No SNI provided; please fix your client.1
invalid2.invalid0
150101000000Z
300101000000Z0N110/
(No SNI provided; please fix your client.1
invalid2.invalid0
} \Y
w[M
]0[0
0*`d
#vBc
?I_n
From removed-gdpr at example.com Sat Sep 22 15:57:16 2018
From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 16:57:16 +0300
Subject: [Users] Using RSS and NNTP through TOR
In-Reply-To: <20180922134602.4e5bdfd2@penny>
References: <20180922130859.6d1603da@localhost> <20180922134602.4e5bdfd2@penny>
Message-ID: <20180922165716.57ed1591@localhost>
On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 13:46:02 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote:
> What does --debug output say when trying to connect?
Attached.
> As for RSSyl, right now, probably only setting
> http_proxy and https_proxy environment variables to
> "socks5://proxy:port" will work.
You mean in KDE Plasma settings? Won't that also force
mail to work through that proxy? I want mail to work
without proxy.
BTW I also experienced a weird issue when playing with
this. Here is the STR (please let me know if this is a
bug to be reported):
1. Set 127.0.0.1:9050 as socks5 proxy for NNTP account
2. Try to connect (failed as explained)
3. Undo 1
4. Repeat 1 for Preferences->Mail Handling->Proxy
(just to test if that would affect RSS, but this was
silly)
5. Refresh RSS
6. Undo 4
7. Exit CM
8. Start CM
9. Try to check default mail account
Suddenly here CM asked me for password although I have
always had it set in the account preferences. Then
when I went to check that account - I noticed that for
some reason the account was duplicated. I removed the
second copy, then tried again to check mail. Again: CM
asked for password. I opened again the account
settings, set the password, saved the changes. Once
again: CM asked for password. I exited CM but after
that could not start it. Only deleting the associated
directory in /tmp helped me start CM again. But even
after that - the password was not there. After a few
attempts CM finally memorized it.
Now that I was testing NNTP with proxy settings I
experienced a similar thing: Setting the proxy for the
NNTP account worked fine. Then for unsetting it I had
to do it twice because the first time the change
didn't get saved.
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From ticho at claws-mail.org Sat Sep 22 16:01:27 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 16:01:27 +0200
Subject: [Users] Using RSS and NNTP through TOR
In-Reply-To: <20180922165716.57ed1591@localhost>
References: <20180922130859.6d1603da@localhost> <20180922134602.4e5bdfd2@penny>
<20180922165716.57ed1591@localhost>
Message-ID: <20180922160127.2d3421ed@penny>
On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 16:57:16 +0300
Removed GDPR wrote:
> You mean in KDE Plasma settings?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_variable
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From ticho at claws-mail.org Sat Sep 22 16:10:00 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 16:10:00 +0200
Subject: [Users] Using RSS and NNTP through TOR
In-Reply-To: <20180922165716.57ed1591@localhost>
References: <20180922130859.6d1603da@localhost> <20180922134602.4e5bdfd2@penny>
<20180922165716.57ed1591@localhost>
Message-ID: <20180922161000.482deca9@penny>
On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 16:57:16 +0300
Removed GDPR wrote:
> ** (claws-mail:10267): WARNING **: socks5_connect: SOCKS5 response
> read failed
This looks like the proxy server does not work correctly - according to
the SOCKS5 protocol[1], the initial response should be two bytes, and if
it is anything else, Claws Mail will not like it[2].
> Suddenly here CM asked me for password although I have
> always had it set in the account preferences. Then
> when I went to check that account - I noticed that for
> some reason the account was duplicated. I removed the
> second copy, then tried again to check mail. Again: CM
> asked for password. I opened again the account
> settings, set the password, saved the changes. Once
> again: CM asked for password. I exited CM but after
> that could not start it. Only deleting the associated
> directory in /tmp helped me start CM again. But even
> after that - the password was not there. After a few
> attempts CM finally memorized it.
That looks like a bug, although I can't seem to reproduce it.
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOCKS5#SOCKS5
2. https://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=blob;f=src/common/proxy.c;hb=HEAD#l187
Regards,
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From ticho at claws-mail.org Sat Sep 22 16:12:00 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 16:12:00 +0200
Subject: [Users] SNI and Google Mail self-signed certificate for IMAP
In-Reply-To: <20180922153255.4e515ed0@noname>
References: <20180922153255.4e515ed0@noname>
Message-ID: <20180922161200.45fcbf8d@penny>
On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 15:32:55 +0200
Michael Schwendt wrote:
> Both Claws Mail 3.16.0 and 3.17.1, which don't exhibit the same
> symptoms on Fedora 28, on Fedora 29 only get offered a self-signed
> certificate when contacting Google Mail IMAP using gnutls.
>
> It is not clear to me yet what exactly has changed and whether
> the theory that it is related to SNI is correct. Why would the same
> package be affected only on F29 and not F28?
>
> Is anything known about this yet?
Perhaps different versions of GnuTLS in each Fedora? You can test the
connection yourself with gnutls-cli or gnutls-cli-debug.
Regards,
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 22 16:30:36 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 14:30:36 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4096] New: Sporadic crashes when opening an email
Message-ID:
https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4096
Bug ID: 4096
Summary: Sporadic crashes when opening an email
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
Version: 3.7.1
Hardware: PC
OS: Windows 10
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: default
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: gerard.seibert at gmail.com
Running Windows 10 / and 64, version 1809, build 17758.4 and claws-mail -
64bit, version 3.7.1.
CM crashes sporadically when opening emails. I tried to debug it; however, CM
always crashes when run under the debugger.
C:\Users\Gerard>C:\Users\Gerard\Downloads\gdb.exe "C:\Program Files\Claws
Mail\claws-mail.exe"
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There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type "show copying"
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Reading symbols from C:\Program Files\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe...(no debugging
symbols found)...done.
(gdb) run
Starting program: C:\Program Files\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe
[New Thread 15592.0x5318]
[New Thread 15592.0x535c]
[New Thread 15592.0x4c60]
[New Thread 15592.0x29ac]
warning: Can not parse XML library list; XML support was disabled at compile
time
[New Thread 15592.0x32e0]
[New Thread 15592.0x53bc]
[New Thread 15592.0x4a04]
[New Thread 15592.0x4d80]
[New Thread 15592.0x2820]
[New Thread 15592.0x4704]
[New Thread 15592.0x31c8]
[Thread 15592.0x31c8 exited with code 0]
[New Thread 15592.0x1eec]
[Thread 15592.0x1eec exited with code 0]
[New Thread 15592.0x358]
[Thread 15592.0x358 exited with code 0]
[New Thread 15592.0x3f1c]
[Thread 15592.0x3f1c exited with code 0]
[New Thread 15592.0x48b8]
[Thread 15592.0x48b8 exited with code 0]
warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]:
warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 00000197C20E0000,
00000197C7CA1960 )
Thread 1 received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap.
0x00007ffe702e8c07 in ?? ()
(gdb) continue
Continuing.
[New Thread 15592.0x4894]
warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]:
warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 00000197C20E0000,
00000197C7CA1960 )
Thread 1 received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap.
0x00007ffe702e8c07 in ?? ()
(gdb) bt full
#0 0x00007ffe702e8c07 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
Backtrace stopped: previous frame identical to this frame (corrupt stack?)
(gdb) quit
A debugging session is active.
Inferior 1 [process 15592] will be killed.
Quit anyway? (y or n) y
Since CM crashed prior to attempting to open an email, I cannot get any further
info. By the way, how do I run CM with "--debug" under the GDB debugger?
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From removed-gdpr at example.com Sat Sep 22 16:32:00 2018
From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 17:32:00 +0300
Subject: [Users] Using RSS and NNTP through TOR
In-Reply-To: <20180922161000.482deca9@penny>
References: <20180922130859.6d1603da@localhost> <20180922134602.4e5bdfd2@penny>
<20180922165716.57ed1591@localhost> <20180922161000.482deca9@penny>
Message-ID: <20180922173200.316ec9a9@localhost>
On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 16:10:00 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote:
> This looks like the proxy server does not work
> correctly - according to the SOCKS5 protocol[1], the
> initial response should be two bytes, and if it is
> anything else, Claws Mail will not like it[2].
Thanks for noticing that! I checked my /etc/torrc and
there was a misconfiguration for SocksPolicy. After
fixing it NNTP works with proxy.
> That looks like a bug, although I can't seem to
> reproduce it.
Which is strange because I have just experienced it
again. Unfortunately I also can't seem to reproduce it
deliberately.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 22 17:12:35 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 15:12:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4096] Sporadic crashes when opening an email
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4096
--- Comment #1 from Gerard Seibert ---
Okay, this time I was able to get the actual info at the time CM crashes.
C:\Users\Gerard>C:\Users\Gerard\Downloads\gdb.exe "C:\Program Files\Claws
Mail\claws-mail.exe"
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Reading symbols from C:\Program Files\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe...(no debugging
symbols found)...done.
(gdb) run "--debug"
Starting program: C:\Program Files\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe "--debug"
[New Thread 11944.0x5110]
[New Thread 11944.0x4f90]
[New Thread 11944.0x4640]
[New Thread 11944.0x1eec]
warning: Can not parse XML library list; XML support was disabled at compile
time
[New Thread 11944.0x5bec]
[New Thread 11944.0x6f8]
[New Thread 11944.0x54a8]
[New Thread 11944.0x4d04]
[New Thread 11944.0x5490]
[New Thread 11944.0x4ab0]
[New Thread 11944.0x3fc]
[Thread 11944.0x3fc exited with code 0]
[New Thread 11944.0x93c]
[Thread 11944.0x93c exited with code 0]
[New Thread 11944.0x4f58]
[Thread 11944.0x4f58 exited with code 0]
[New Thread 11944.0x29f8]
[Thread 11944.0x29f8 exited with code 0]
[New Thread 11944.0x2610]
[Thread 11944.0x2610 exited with code 0]
warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]:
warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 00000230516C0000,
00000230571A1960 )
Thread 1 received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap.
0x00007ffe702e8c07 in ?? ()
(gdb) continue
Continuing.
warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]:
warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 00000230516C0000,
00000230571A1960 )
Thread 1 received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap.
0x00007ffe702e8c07 in ?? ()
(gdb) continue
Continuing.
warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]:
warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 00000230516C0000,
00000230571A1A90 )
Thread 1 received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap.
0x00007ffe702e8c07 in ?? ()
(gdb) continue
Continuing.
warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]:
warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 00000230516C0000,
00000230571A1A90 )
Thread 1 received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap.
0x00007ffe702e8c07 in ?? ()
(gdb) continue
Continuing.
[New Thread 11944.0x61f4]
[New Thread 11944.0x5580]
[New Thread 11944.0x4700]
[New Thread 11944.0x3908]
[New Thread 11944.0x5114]
[New Thread 11944.0x95c]
[New Thread 11944.0x4668]
[New Thread 11944.0x2748]
[New Thread 11944.0x62cc]
[New Thread 11944.0x4de8]
[New Thread 11944.0x48f8]
[New Thread 11944.0x3bfc]
[New Thread 11944.0x30d0]
[New Thread 11944.0x5ecc]
[New Thread 11944.0x2034]
[New Thread 11944.0x2f64]
[Thread 11944.0x2034 exited with code 0]
[Thread 11944.0x3bfc exited with code 0]
[Thread 11944.0x30d0 exited with code 0]
[Thread 11944.0x5ecc exited with code 0]
[New Thread 11944.0x62a8]
[New Thread 11944.0x53e8]
[New Thread 11944.0x5970]
[New Thread 11944.0x37f0]
[New Thread 11944.0x5bd0]
[New Thread 11944.0x4884]
[New Thread 11944.0x4edc]
[New Thread 11944.0x5888]
Thread 1 received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x0000000063b52c30 in ?? ()
(gdb) continue
Continuing.
Thread 1 received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x0000000063b52c30 in ?? ()
(gdb) continue
Continuing.
[Thread 11944.0x54a8 exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x4640 exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x5bec exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x4f90 exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x6f8 exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x61f4 exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x3908 exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x5114 exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x95c exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x2748 exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x48f8 exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x4de8 exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x4700 exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x1eec exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x4ab0 exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x53e8 exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x5bd0 exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x62a8 exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x5970 exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x4668 exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x5580 exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x62cc exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x5888 exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x2f64 exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x4884 exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x37f0 exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x4edc exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x4d04 exited with code 3221225477]
[Thread 11944.0x5490 exited with code 3221225477]
[Inferior 1 (process 11944) exited with code 030000000005]
(gdb) bt full
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From brad at fineby.me.uk Sat Sep 22 16:00:36 2018
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 15:00:36 +0100
Subject: [Users] key binding mysteriously changing
In-Reply-To: <20180921140928.5c8a3464@numbat>
References: <20180921140928.5c8a3464@numbat>
Message-ID: <20180922150036.51dc160f@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 14:09:28 -0700
"Derek B. Noonburg" wrote:
Hello Derek,
>Has anyone seen anything like this? Any suggestions on how to track it
>down?
I'm not sure what expected behaviour would be if the following isn't
set, but I suggest you check that the "Enable customisable keyboard
shortcuts" setting in 'Preferences/Other/Miscellaneous' is enabled first.
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From derekn at foolabs.com Sat Sep 22 18:09:26 2018
From: derekn at foolabs.com (Derek B. Noonburg)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 09:09:26 -0700
Subject: [Users] key binding mysteriously changing
In-Reply-To: <20180922150036.51dc160f@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
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<20180922150036.51dc160f@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 15:00:36 +0100, Brad Rogers
wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 14:09:28 -0700
> "Derek B. Noonburg" wrote:
>
> Hello Derek,
>
> >Has anyone seen anything like this? Any suggestions on how to track
> >it down?
>
> I'm not sure what expected behaviour would be if the following isn't
> set, but I suggest you check that the "Enable customisable keyboard
> shortcuts" setting in 'Preferences/Other/Miscellaneous' is enabled
> first.
That's definitely enabled (and I just double-checked). I have a bunch
of custom key bindings -- this is the only one that behaves strangely.
- Derek
From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 22 18:52:28 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 16:52:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4095] Provide visual indication for filter rules with
move/stop action
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--- Comment #1 from Shai Berger ---
The code's term is "final action". There are currently only three of them --
STOP & DELETE, for which "no more processing" seems obvious, and MOVE. Up until
3.16 MARK_AS_SPAM was also a final action, but this has changed in 3.17.
This is defined in a function named "filtering_is_final_action()" in the file
filtering.c.
Given that the set of non-obviously-final actions includes only one action, I
think that adding code to visually mark final actions differently is a bit of
an overkill. That said, AFAIK the whole issue is not documented anywhere, and
adding this documentation might be useful.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 22 19:33:50 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 17:33:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4095] Provide visual indication for filter rules with
move/stop action
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> I think that adding code to visually mark final actions differently is a bit of an overkill.
I don't see why. To me it is an overkill to look at a long line of text (for
more complex rules) in which even the action is not visually separated from the
condition. A good UI combines function with visuals and currently nothing gives
a visual hint about what is done and what is the effect of it (in the context
of this whole suggestion)
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 22 20:49:40 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 18:49:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4095] Provide visual indication for filter rules with
move/stop action
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--- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian ---
I guess a small red "X" icon, or something similar, next to the rule name could
work, especially with a tooltip that says what it means.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 22 21:03:39 2018
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Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 19:03:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4095] Provide visual indication for filter rules with
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--- Comment #4 from Removed after GDPR request ---
Sounds good.
Another thing (in the context of my previous reply): It would be good also to
have a visual separation between the action and the condition on the line of
the rule. For example: the text of the action can be different color (or bold),
e.g.
from matchcase "watever at example.com" [*style*]move "...somewhere"[/*style*]
Perhaps this should be in a separate bug. Please let me know if I should file
one or it can be done at once for both things.
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From bugs.michael at gmx.net Sat Sep 22 22:26:45 2018
From: bugs.michael at gmx.net (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 22:26:45 +0200
Subject: [Users] SNI and Google Mail self-signed certificate for IMAP
In-Reply-To: <20180922161200.45fcbf8d@penny>
References: <20180922153255.4e515ed0@noname>
<20180922161200.45fcbf8d@penny>
Message-ID: <20180922222645.66d38a0f@noname>
On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 16:12:00 +0200, Andrej Kacian wrote:
> > Both Claws Mail 3.16.0 and 3.17.1, which don't exhibit the same
> > symptoms on Fedora 28, on Fedora 29 only get offered a self-signed
> > certificate when contacting Google Mail IMAP using gnutls.
> >
> > It is not clear to me yet what exactly has changed and whether
> > the theory that it is related to SNI is correct. Why would the same
> > package be affected only on F29 and not F28?
> >
> > Is anything known about this yet?
>
> Perhaps different versions of GnuTLS in each Fedora? You can test the
> connection yourself with gnutls-cli or gnutls-cli-debug.
Meanwhile, I've taken the time to look under the hood, since the package
appeared to be the same, but actually it is built differently based on
conditionals that depend on the distribution version. D'oh!
%if (0%{?fedora} <= 28)
--enable-ssl3-support \
%else
--enable-tls13-support \
%endif
The issue is reproducible with:
gnutls-cli --disable-sni imap.gmail.com:993
From bugs.michael at gmx.net Sat Sep 22 22:43:04 2018
From: bugs.michael at gmx.net (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 22:43:04 +0200
Subject: [Users] SNI and Google Mail self-signed certificate for IMAP
In-Reply-To: <20180922222645.66d38a0f@noname>
References: <20180922153255.4e515ed0@noname> <20180922161200.45fcbf8d@penny>
<20180922222645.66d38a0f@noname>
Message-ID: <20180922224304.771d1c1d@noname>
Further reading:
F29 Self-Contained Change: GnuTLS enables TLS 1.3 by default
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel at lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/4CK56YE3LZ2XESIIIZ6TWPQD32F2QWCH/
From bugs.michael at gmx.net Sun Sep 23 15:09:51 2018
From: bugs.michael at gmx.net (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 15:09:51 +0200
Subject: [Users] SNI and Google Mail self-signed certificate for IMAP
In-Reply-To: <20180922224304.771d1c1d@noname>
References: <20180922153255.4e515ed0@noname> <20180922161200.45fcbf8d@penny>
<20180922222645.66d38a0f@noname> <20180922224304.771d1c1d@noname>
Message-ID: <20180923150951.039c474f@noname>
> Further reading:
>
> F29 Self-Contained Change: GnuTLS enables TLS 1.3 by default
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel at lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/4CK56YE3LZ2XESIIIZ6TWPQD32F2QWCH/
>
There's also a libetpan feature request for SNI support, albeit for OpenSSL
not gnutls. https://github.com/dinhviethoa/libetpan/issues/258
It seems to me that is where the certificate retrieval and checking is done.
Claws Mail initializes and uses gnutls separately, however, too.
From epodata at gmail.com Sun Sep 23 22:15:48 2018
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 22:15:48 +0200
Subject: [Users] Question on moving Mailboxes.
Message-ID: <20180923221548.0b09b562@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Due to disk space constraints I am planning to move the various mailboxes to a different
file system. I know that I have to change the mailbox adresses in .claws-mail/accountrc
to point to the new addresses but in accountrc I have definitions like
local_inbox=#mh/Mailbox/inbox and this Mailbox directory does not exist; what does this
do? And there other similar definitions that do not exit. Can they be removed?
Are there more than mailbox addresses that have to be changed?
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 23 22:25:18 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 20:25:18 -0000
Subject: [Users] Question on moving Mailboxes.
In-Reply-To: <20180923221548.0b09b562@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20180923221548.0b09b562@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20180923212518.51c0e6e5@localhost>
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 22:15:48 +0200
"Erik P. Olsen" wrote:
> Are there more than mailbox addresses that have to be changed?
Stick to using the GUI, whether that is editing account prefs, adding
new mailboxes, or whatever.
with regards
Paul
From removed-gdpr at example.com Sun Sep 23 23:50:22 2018
From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 00:50:22 +0300
Subject: [Users] Compiling claws-mail
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20180924005022.2c304e5d@localhost>
Hi,
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GCC_optimization explains
that:
> -ftree-vectorize is an optimization option (default
> at -O3 and -Ofast), which attempts to vectorize
> loops using the selected ISA if possible. The reason
> it isn't enabled at -O2 is that it doesn't always
> improve code, it can make code slower as well, and
> usually makes the code larger; it really depends on
> the loop etc.
What is the case with Claws Mail? Would the build
benefit or suffer from using "-O3" instead of "-O2"?
Also: I would like to use a faster machine to create
builds for other slower machines (one of them even
32-bit). Do I need anything more than just finding the
proper "-march" setting for the target CPU?
--
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 24 09:31:31 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 07:31:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3984] Copy-paste in find/filter field works incorrectly
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Colin Leroy changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED
Resolution|FIXED |---
--- Comment #4 from Colin Leroy ---
Hi,
This fix fixes GTK's internal accelerators for copy-pasting, but breaks the
rest of Claws Mail's own mainwindow accelerators when the quicksearch has
focus.
Now if I search for a mail and need to reply to it, I can't hit Ctrl-R to do so
unless I unfocus the quicksearch.
I'm not sure if that's a win.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 24 09:47:41 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 07:47:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3984] Copy-paste in find/filter field works incorrectly
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--- Comment #5 from Colin Leroy ---
Created attachment 1923
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Fix the fix
This patch keeps the nice code cleanup, and fixes the issue I have with it,
without apparently breaking anything.
What do you think ?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 24 10:16:43 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 08:16:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply
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Colin Leroy changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Attachment #1914|0 |1
is obsolete| |
--- Comment #20 from Colin Leroy ---
Created attachment 1924
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Updated patch
Hi,
Update of the previous patch, making main toolbar buttons behave the same as
the menu items (both main and popup), so everything works the same:
- If the message opened in the messageview is part of the summaryview
selection, no change.
- Else, skip using the messageview information altogether.
Separate messageviews are unaffected of course: their buttons apply to their
displayed message.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 24 11:23:35 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 09:23:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3984] Copy-paste in find/filter field works incorrectly
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--- Comment #6 from Removed after GDPR request ---
> This patch keeps the nice code cleanup
Could you please advise how to use it? I have learned how to compile using git
source code but I don't know how to test patches. Need I manually apply the
line changes or is there a command which would allow me to do it?
Currently I am running Claws Mail version 3.17.0git59
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From jvromans at squirrel.nl Mon Sep 24 13:26:43 2018
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 13:26:43 +0200
Subject: [Users] Permanently decrypt an encrypted message
Message-ID: <20180924132643.3ebc381b@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Hi,
When I receive (PGP)encrypted messages, I need to input my PGP key and then
I can read the message. When I close the message, the temporary decryption
is gone and the message remains encrypted in the mailbox.
While this is good for some messages, it is not necessary for some other
messages. Once they survide the trip through the hostile internet and
arrive save on my servers they can be decrypted and may be kept decrypted.
I've searched the claws and plugins documentation but it seems that this
functionality is not provided by claws and/or the PGP plugins.
How can I permanently decrypt an encrypted message?
-- Johan
From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 25 11:30:02 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 09:30:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4088] spurious message when starting
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Paul changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE
--- Comment #3 from Paul ---
*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 2411 ***
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Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 09:30:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2411] quicksearch_history content partially written to
stdout
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What |Removed |Added
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CC| |pf at pfortin.com
--- Comment #5 from Paul ---
*** Bug 4088 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 25 11:37:56 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 09:37:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4082] "Edit Accounts" Window defualt size is Too Small
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Summary|"Edit Accounts" Window Too |"Edit Accounts" Window
|Small |defualt size is Too Small
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 25 11:38:15 2018
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Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 09:38:15 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4082] "Edit Accounts" Window default size is Too Small
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Summary|"Edit Accounts" Window |"Edit Accounts" Window
|defualt size is Too Small |default size is Too Small
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 25 11:43:27 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 09:43:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4064] Wrong message is opened in a new window
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Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 09:43:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply
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*** Bug 4064 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 25 11:52:44 2018
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Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 09:52:44 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply
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--- Comment #22 from Michal Suchánek ---
(In reply to comment #20)
> Created attachment 1924 [details]
> Updated patch
>
> Hi,
>
> Update of the previous patch, making main toolbar buttons behave the same as
> the menu items (both main and popup), so everything works the same:
>
> - If the message opened in the messageview is part of the summaryview
> selection, no change.
This is bogus. If more than one message is selected using the messageview info
for messages not shown in the messageview will produce the broken results.
> - Else, skip using the messageview information altogether.
This is also bogus. When a message is shown in the messageview any reply should
go to the message in messageview unless very precisely specified otherwise (ie
rightclicking a particular message in summary and picking reply from the
context menu).
As said earlier the selection in summaryview need not be visible due to
scrolling but the messageview is always visible. When both are visible the
messageview is way more prominent. Skipping the messageview when replying does
not make any sense from UI viewpoint.
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From linux at slavino.sk Tue Sep 25 20:27:06 2018
From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 20:27:06 +0200
Subject: [Users] Permanently decrypt an encrypted message
In-Reply-To: <20180924132643.3ebc381b@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
References: <20180924132643.3ebc381b@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <20180925202706.7f50dadc@bonifac.skk>
Hi,
Dňa Mon, 24 Sep 2018 13:26:43 +0200 Johan Vromans
napísal:
> When I receive (PGP)encrypted messages, I need to input my PGP key
> and then I can read the message. When I close the message, the
> temporary decryption is gone and the message remains encrypted in the
> mailbox.
>
> While this is good for some messages, it is not necessary for some
> other messages. Once they survide the trip through the hostile
> internet and arrive save on my servers they can be decrypted and may
> be kept decrypted.
I agree with you, that not all messages need to be stored encrypted and
option for store decrypted message is missing for me too. I asked this
same here some time ago, but without any response.
Then i tried to do it by self as action's script. I was able to do this
for simple PGP/Inline messages with simple shell script, but there is
problem to do the same with PGP/Mime messages.
I searched some solution a lot and only tool which i found was mimepgp
from http://www.courier-mta.org/sqwebmail/ but i retired it finally. It
works, but it produces ugly decrypted messages with custom mime part
(X-mimegpg or so) and CM is not able search inside this part...
I tried to do own PGP/Mime decrypt's solution in Python. While i was
able to get results, i retired this solution too, because i fell as
reinventing wheels, because CM must have this part implemented already
to show content of decrypted message.
Both solutions had one common problem, rewriting message file doesn't
remove encrypted icon in CM messages list and i was not able to
distinguish between encrypted and already decrypted messages in list.
The final solution, which i am using is, that i setup own SMTP server
for these messages, which works only with SMTP+STARTTLS (and via 587
only, to prevent mass SPAM attempts) to ensure encrypted messages over
net and avoid needing to encrypt each message... While this works well
for me, it is not solution for everyone, because it has some DNS
and/or static IP requirements.
Hope this help you to avoid trying not-working attempts...
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 26 17:21:47 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 15:21:47 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4035] Browsing to https://claws-mail.org results in a
TLS error
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4035
Paul changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |FIXED
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 26 18:06:08 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 16:06:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3984] Copy-paste in find/filter field works incorrectly
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3984
--- Comment #7 from Colin Leroy ---
Hi,
Save the patch file, and use:
patch -p1 < /path/to/the/patch.file
HTH :)
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From dan_arico at aricosystems.com Wed Sep 26 22:49:59 2018
From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 16:49:59 -0400
Subject: [Users] Ubuntu 18.04 and HTML
Message-ID: <20180926164959.090d7388.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
So how do I display HTML email? In the past, I used the fancy plugin,
but after I upgraded to 18.04 LTS, I could no longer find it.
Dan
--
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One OS to bring them all, and in the Darkness bind them,
In the land of Redmond, where the Sales Reps lie.
From lbickley at bickleywest.com Thu Sep 27 00:15:40 2018
From: lbickley at bickleywest.com (Lyle Bickley)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 15:15:40 -0700
Subject: [Users] Ubuntu 18.04 and HTML
In-Reply-To: <20180926164959.090d7388.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
References: <20180926164959.090d7388.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
Message-ID: <20180926151540.12f36ecc@asrock>
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 16:49:59 -0400
Dan Arico wrote:
> So how do I display HTML email? In the past, I used the fancy plugin,
> but after I upgraded to 18.04 LTS, I could no longer find it.
Download and install the "Dillo" browser and replace the "fancy" plugin
with the "dillo" plugin.
Dillo is nowhere near as nice as "fancy" - but it works for http
emails. It does not work for https emails. (I tried compiling it from
source including the "--enable-ssl" option, but it is alpha code and
does not work).
Dillo-3.0.5 is the current release and Dillo hasn't been upgraded since
June 2015).
Lyle
NOTE: Dillo source is available at: https://www.dillo.org/
--
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Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
From rezso at rezso.net Thu Sep 27 00:39:35 2018
From: rezso at rezso.net (=?UTF-8?B?UMOhZGVyIFJlenPFkQ==?=)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 00:39:35 +0200
Subject: [Users] Ubuntu 18.04 and HTML
In-Reply-To: <20180926151540.12f36ecc@asrock>
References: <20180926164959.090d7388.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
<20180926151540.12f36ecc@asrock>
Message-ID: <20180927003935.786f7d33@rezso>
>Dillo-3.0.5 is the current release and Dillo hasn't been upgraded since
>June 2015).
Try to compile from mercurial source:
https://hg.dillo.org/dillo
--
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From ricardo at mones.org Thu Sep 27 00:46:59 2018
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 00:46:59 +0200
Subject: [Users] Ubuntu 18.04 and HTML
In-Reply-To: <20180926151540.12f36ecc@asrock>
References: <20180926164959.090d7388.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
<20180926151540.12f36ecc@asrock>
Message-ID: <20180926224659.dkaf3hcg54v3ckam@busgosu>
On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 03:15:40PM -0700, Lyle Bickley wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 16:49:59 -0400
> Dan Arico wrote:
>
> > So how do I display HTML email? In the past, I used the fancy plugin,
> > but after I upgraded to 18.04 LTS, I could no longer find it.
>
> Download and install the "Dillo" browser and replace the "fancy" plugin
> with the "dillo" plugin.
There was no dillo plugin in that release, Ubuntu has no package for it.
It may be possible to build the fancy plugin from source, depends on the
development libraries available on that Ubuntu release.
> Dillo is nowhere near as nice as "fancy" - but it works for http
> emails. It does not work for https emails. (I tried compiling it from
> source including the "--enable-ssl" option, but it is alpha code and
> does not work).
Email HTML parts are saved in local files, which are shown by dillo. You
don't need neither https nor http protocols to read them.
best regards,
--
Ricardo Mones
~
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From lbickley at bickleywest.com Thu Sep 27 03:11:28 2018
From: lbickley at bickleywest.com (Lyle Bickley)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 18:11:28 -0700
Subject: [Users] Ubuntu 18.04 and HTML
In-Reply-To: <20180926224659.dkaf3hcg54v3ckam@busgosu>
References: <20180926164959.090d7388.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
<20180926151540.12f36ecc@asrock>
<20180926224659.dkaf3hcg54v3ckam@busgosu>
Message-ID: <20180926181128.6ec14e3a@asrock>
Hi Ricardo,
I wish that was always true, but alas it's not. Here's what happens if
an emails contains an embedded uses of ssl, such as:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/04/jpmorgan-says-next-crisis-will-feature-flash-crashes-and-social-unrest.html
In this case Dillo responds with:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
The https dpi was unable to send the following HTTP query:
GET /2018/09/04/jpmorgan-says-next-crisis-will-feature-flash-crashes-and-social-unrest.html
HTTP/1.1 Host: www.cnbc.com
User-Agent: Dillo/3.0.5
Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
DNT: 1
Referer: https://www.cnbc.com/
Connection: close
because Dillo's prototype plugin for https support is disabled.
If you want to test this alpha support code, just reconfigure with
--enable-ssl, recompile and reinstall. (Beware that this https support
is very limited now) To use https and SSL, you must have the OpenSSL
development libraries installed. Check your O/S distribution provider,
or check out www.openssl.org. Sent from the CNBC App. Available on
Google Play -
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I did configure Dillo with --enable-ssl - but it fails to compile
correctly.
I'll try the https://hg.dillo.org/dillo patch to 3.0.5 suggested by
Páder Rezső and will see if that works and will post the results...
Cheers,
Lyle
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On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 00:46:59 +0200
Ricardo Mones wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 03:15:40PM -0700, Lyle Bickley wrote:
> > On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 16:49:59 -0400
> > Dan Arico wrote:
> >
> > > So how do I display HTML email? In the past, I used the fancy
> > > plugin, but after I upgraded to 18.04 LTS, I could no longer find
> > > it.
> >
> > Download and install the "Dillo" browser and replace the "fancy"
> > plugin with the "dillo" plugin.
>
> There was no dillo plugin in that release, Ubuntu has no package for
> it.
>
> It may be possible to build the fancy plugin from source, depends on
> the development libraries available on that Ubuntu release.
>
> > Dillo is nowhere near as nice as "fancy" - but it works for http
> > emails. It does not work for https emails. (I tried compiling it
> > from source including the "--enable-ssl" option, but it is alpha
> > code and does not work).
>
> Email HTML parts are saved in local files, which are shown by dillo.
> You don't need neither https nor http protocols to read them.
>
> best regards,
--
73 NM6Y
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
From silver.bullet at zoho.com Thu Sep 27 03:54:08 2018
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 03:54:08 +0200
Subject: [Users] Ubuntu 18.04 and HTML
In-Reply-To: <20180926224659.dkaf3hcg54v3ckam@busgosu>
References: <20180926164959.090d7388.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
<20180926151540.12f36ecc@asrock>
<20180926224659.dkaf3hcg54v3ckam@busgosu>
Message-ID: <20180927035408.18a83796@utnubu>
On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 00:46:59 +0200, Ricardo Mones wrote:
>It may be possible to build the fancy plugin from source, depends on
>the development libraries available on that Ubuntu release.
The runtime dependencies are still available, so the packages
containing the header files must be available, too. However, it gains
absolutely nothing to build software based on vulnerable software.
It's the universe repository that still provides the insecure and
deprecated webkitgtk. This repository is community-maintained, it's not
supported by Canonical.
From lbickley at bickleywest.com Thu Sep 27 04:00:30 2018
From: lbickley at bickleywest.com (Lyle Bickley)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:00:30 -0700
Subject: [Users] Ubuntu 18.04 and HTML
In-Reply-To: <20180927003935.786f7d33@rezso>
References: <20180926164959.090d7388.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
<20180926151540.12f36ecc@asrock> <20180927003935.786f7d33@rezso>
Message-ID: <20180926190030.329b66c2@asrock>
Hi Páder,
On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 00:39:35 +0200
Páder Rezső wrote:
> >Dillo-3.0.5 is the current release and Dillo hasn't been upgraded
> >since June 2015).
>
> Try to compile from mercurial source:
> https://hg.dillo.org/dillo
Thanks for the suggestion. Patched Dillo-3.0.5 with the ssl update from
mercurial, recompiled Dillo with "./configure --enable-ssl", installed
dillo, restarted claws - and unfortunately "no joy". Same error occurs.
Bummer...
Cheers,
Lyle
--
73 NM6Y
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
From mir at miras.org Thu Sep 27 07:40:04 2018
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 07:40:04 +0200
Subject: [Users] Ubuntu 18.04 and HTML
In-Reply-To: <20180926224659.dkaf3hcg54v3ckam@busgosu>
References: <20180926164959.090d7388.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
<20180926151540.12f36ecc@asrock>
<20180926224659.dkaf3hcg54v3ckam@busgosu>
Message-ID: <20180927074004.60d050fe@sleipner.datanom.net>
On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 00:46:59 +0200
Ricardo Mones wrote:
>
> Email HTML parts are saved in local files, which are shown by dillo.
> You don't need neither https nor http protocols to read them.
>
That is not true since a html page can contain parts which is fetched
at runtime through a http(s) link. Think of images, js, css, and text
parts.
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 27 09:40:14 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 07:40:14 -0000
Subject: [Users] Ubuntu 18.04 and HTML
In-Reply-To: <20180927074004.60d050fe@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20180926164959.090d7388.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
<20180926151540.12f36ecc@asrock>
<20180926224659.dkaf3hcg54v3ckam@busgosu>
<20180927074004.60d050fe@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20180927083957.2e86a217@localhost>
On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 07:40:04 +0200
Michael Rasmussen wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 00:46:59 +0200
> Ricardo Mones wrote:
>
> >
> > Email HTML parts are saved in local files, which are shown by
> > dillo. You don't need neither https nor http protocols to read
> > them.
> That is not true since a html page can contain parts which is
> fetched at runtime through a http(s) link. Think of images, js,
> css, and text parts.
I agree with Ricardo's view. You really don't need https or http to
read them. However, the html messages might try to load remote
content and, obviously, these are served via https or http. As
everyone knows, remote content makes html messages a potential
security risk, etc. Not loading remote content does not stop you from
reading html messages, except perhaps the very worst examples where
everything is remote.
with regards
Paul
From pqsp at disroot.org Thu Sep 27 09:54:49 2018
From: pqsp at disroot.org (pq)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 02:54:49 -0500
Subject: [Users] mh folders unexpected behavior
Message-ID: <20180927075453.E7E48345F6@disroot.org>
I have multiple POP accounts with a MH folder for each one.
When I compose a new email, for any account, always the email is saved
on the SEND subfolder of the MH folder that fall into to first mailbox .
This behavior is unexpected, cuz when I wrote a email on a account X, i
expected that this email saves on the same MH folder. Same problem
with draft email. How to resolve this behavior?
---
pq
From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 27 10:22:55 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 08:22:55 -0000
Subject: [Users] mh folders unexpected behavior
In-Reply-To: <20180927075453.E7E48345F6@disroot.org>
References: <20180927075453.E7E48345F6@disroot.org>
Message-ID: <20180927092255.2e85be2a@localhost>
On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 02:54:49 -0500
pq wrote:
> I have multiple POP accounts with a MH folder for each one.
> When I compose a new email, for any account, always the email is
> saved on the SEND subfolder of the MH folder that fall into to
> first mailbox . This behavior is unexpected, cuz when I wrote a
> email on a account X, i expected that this email saves on the same
> MH folder. Same problem with draft email. How to resolve this
> behavior?
MH mailboxes are POP accounts. Several POP accounts can share a
single MH mailbox.
You resolve your issue by using the Account preferences to set the
special folders.
For example, I use several POP accounts and one MH mailbox. I've made
sub-folders in Sent, Inbox, etc, which correspond (via account prefs)
to the POP accounts.
with regards
Paul
From ticho at claws-mail.org Thu Sep 27 10:27:48 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 10:27:48 +0200
Subject: [Users] mh folders unexpected behavior
In-Reply-To: <20180927075453.E7E48345F6@disroot.org>
References: <20180927075453.E7E48345F6@disroot.org>
Message-ID: <20180927102748.4528747c@penny>
On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 02:54:49 -0500
pq wrote:
> I have multiple POP accounts with a MH folder for each one.
> When I compose a new email, for any account, always the email is saved
> on the SEND subfolder of the MH folder that fall into to first mailbox .
> This behavior is unexpected, cuz when I wrote a email on a account X, i
> expected that this email saves on the same MH folder. Same problem
> with draft email. How to resolve this behavior?
MH folders are not associated with POP3 accounts by default. Unless you
configure your POP3 account(s) to use particular folders for
drafts/queue/trash/sent, Claws Mail will use first folder of correct
type it finds.
Regards,
--
Andrej
From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 27 10:47:00 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 08:47:00 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889
Colin Leroy changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Attachment #1913|0 |1
is obsolete| |
Attachment #1924|0 |1
is obsolete| |
--- Comment #23 from Colin Leroy ---
Created attachment 1925
-->
https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1925&action=edit
Another better patch
Following more IRC chat, I think we can say that:
WE HAVE:
Message A is displayed, message A is selected
Mainwindow replies => To message A
Toolbar replies => To message A
SummaryPopup on message A replies => To message A
SummaryPopup on other message replies => To message A (IT SHOULDN'T)
Message A is displayed, messages A B C are selected
Mainwindow replies => To A, B, C
Toolbar replies => To A, B, C
SummaryPopup on message A, B or C replies => To A, B, C
SummaryPopup on other message (D) replies => To message A (IT SHOULDN'T)
Message A is displayed, but one other only, B, is selected
Mainwindow replies => to message A with some corner-case bug in address
selection (https://www.colino.net/tmp/reply.ogv)
Toolbar replies => to message A with some corner-case bug in address
selection (https://www.colino.net/tmp/reply.ogv)
SummaryPopup on message A replies => to message A with some corner-case bug
in address selection (https://www.colino.net/tmp/reply.ogv)
SummaryPopup on message B replies => to message A, with message B To
address (IT SHOULDN'T)
SummaryPopup on other message (D) replies => to message A, with message D
To address (IT SHOULDN'T)
Message A is displayed, but others only (B C D) are selected
Mainwindow replies => to selected messages B C D
Toolbar replies => to selected messages B C D
SummaryPopup on one of the selected messages replies => B C D
SummaryPopup on another message (E) replies => to message A, with message E
To address (IT SHOULDN'T)
WE WANT:
Message A is displayed, message A is selected
Mainwindow replies => To message A
Toolbar replies => To message A
SummaryPopup on message A replies => To message A
SummaryPopup on other message B (selects B) replies => To message B
Message A is displayed, messages A B C are selected
Mainwindow replies => To A, B, C
Toolbar replies => To A, B, C
SummaryPopup on message A, B or C replies => To A, B, C
SummaryPopup on other message (D) (selects D) replies => To message D
Message A is displayed, but one other only, B, is selected
Mainwindow replies => to message A
Toolbar replies => to message A
SummaryPopup on message A (selects A) replies => to message A
SummaryPopup on message B replies => to message B
SummaryPopup on other message (D) (selects D) replies => to message D
Message A is displayed, but others only (B C D) are selected
Mainwindow replies => to message A
Toolbar replies => to message A
SummaryPopup on one of the selected messages replies => B C D
SummaryPopup on another message (E) (selects E) replies => to message E
This doesn't describe precisely the "only quote selected part of the mail"
feature,
nor the "reply to attached message/rfc822 when it is the currently selected
part" feature,
which don't change and only applies when we reply to displayed message A and
only message A is selected.
The attached patch implements that "WE WANT" part.
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From lb at laurentbloch.org Thu Sep 27 15:34:59 2018
From: lb at laurentbloch.org (Laurent Bloch)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 15:34:59 +0200
Subject: [Users] How to generate UID's for address books
Message-ID: <20180927153459.44bcae41@olga>
Hi,
In order to register my students in my Claws-Mail address book,
I would like to write a program to read a CSV file with the names
and e-mail addresses of the students, and to write a LDIF file
which I could give to Claws-Mail (the CSV file is given to me
by the administrative guys of the university).
When looking at the Claws-Mail address-books, I see that each
entity has a unique UID (person, member, maybe etc.).
My question is: how to generate a valid UID for the entities I
will create, I suppose essentially persons (I will create groups
later by the Claws-Mail interface)?
Thanks for any hint. Cheers!
--
Laurent Bloch - https://www.laurentbloch.net - lb at laurentbloch.org
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From lfiskgr at gmail.com Thu Sep 27 15:47:23 2018
From: lfiskgr at gmail.com (Leon Fisk)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 09:47:23 -0400
Subject: [Users] How to generate UID's for address books
In-Reply-To: <20180927153459.44bcae41@olga>
References: <20180927153459.44bcae41@olga>
Message-ID: <5bacdf6c.1c69fb81.0332.8a06@mx.google.com>
On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 15:34:59 +0200
Laurent Bloch wrote:
>Hi,
>
>In order to register my students in my Claws-Mail address book,
>I would like to write a program to read a CSV file with the names
>and e-mail addresses of the students, and to write a LDIF file
>which I could give to Claws-Mail (the CSV file is given to me
>by the administrative guys of the university).
This doesn't exactly answer your question, but have you looked at the
tools here:
https://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php?section=downloads
A long time ago I used the "csv2addressbook.pl" to convert my a CSV
file with my addresses for use with Claws. If I remember correctly I had
to make a few mods but nothing all that difficult...
--
Leon
Claws 3.16.0, Ubuntu Lucid
From removed-gdpr at example.com Thu Sep 27 17:49:09 2018
From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 18:49:09 +0300
Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org
In-Reply-To: <20180914112208.4e942424@localhost>
References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost>
<20180913194622.70556a82@localhost>
<20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost>
<20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug>
<20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180913222848.07c0d2b3@mike>
<20180914112208.4e942424@localhost>
Message-ID: <20180927184909.1e5d3e65@localhost>
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 11:22:08 +0300 Removed GDPR wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 22:28:48 +0200 Colin Leroy-Mira
> wrote:
>
> > I'm sorry, we don't have any weight over our
> > hosting provider's peerings...
>
> Have you at least notified them about the issue? I
> don't expect it will get self fixed as it hasn't so
> far.
Any feedback please?
FWIW: My ISP switched me to 1 Gbps (and I do have very
fast connection speed to many countries), still this
crawls at 15-25 KiB/s.
--
George
From pqsp at disroot.org Thu Sep 27 18:40:31 2018
From: pqsp at disroot.org (pq)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 11:40:31 -0500
Subject: [Users] mh folders unexpected behavior
In-Reply-To: <20180927092255.2e85be2a@localhost>
References: <20180927075453.E7E48345F6@disroot.org>
<20180927092255.2e85be2a@localhost>
Message-ID: <20180927164035.C0A2F34630@disroot.org>
On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 08:22:55 -0000
Paul wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 02:54:49 -0500
> pq wrote:
>
> > I have multiple POP accounts with a MH folder for each one.
> > When I compose a new email, for any account, always the email is
> > saved on the SEND subfolder of the MH folder that fall into to
> > first mailbox . This behavior is unexpected, cuz when I wrote a
> > email on a account X, i expected that this email saves on the same
> > MH folder. Same problem with draft email. How to resolve this
> > behavior?
>
> MH mailboxes are POP accounts. Several POP accounts can share a
> single MH mailbox.
>
> You resolve your issue by using the Account preferences to set the
> special folders.
>
> For example, I use several POP accounts and one MH mailbox. I've made
> sub-folders in Sent, Inbox, etc, which correspond (via account prefs)
> to the POP accounts.
>
> with regards
>
> Paul
Thanks for all answers, I found the option for POP3
account(s) to use particular folders for drafts/queue/trash/sent. It's
on Properties > Advanced.
Regards
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 27 19:20:06 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 17:20:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3984] Copy-paste in find/filter field works incorrectly
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3984
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Hi Colin,
I see this was commited to git. I could try it out. Your fix seems to work
fine. Thanks!
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From lb at laurentbloch.org Thu Sep 27 21:39:12 2018
From: lb at laurentbloch.org (Laurent Bloch)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 21:39:12 +0200
Subject: [Users] How to generate UID's for address books
In-Reply-To: <5bacdf6c.1c69fb81.0332.8a06@mx.google.com>
References: <20180927153459.44bcae41@olga>
<5bacdf6c.1c69fb81.0332.8a06@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <20180927213912.477e3e10@tsvetaeva>
Thank you for your help, Leon. While reading the Perl program
I understood that the UID was just the date in seconds since 1970-01-01
00:00:00 UTC. I hope Claws-Mail will be happy with that!
Good evening (if you are in Europe :-)
Le jeudi 27 septembre 2018 Leon Fisk a écrit ceci :
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 15:34:59 +0200
> Laurent Bloch wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >In order to register my students in my Claws-Mail address book,
> >I would like to write a program to read a CSV file with the names
> >and e-mail addresses of the students, and to write a LDIF file
> >which I could give to Claws-Mail (the CSV file is given to me
> >by the administrative guys of the university).
>
>