From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 2 12:48:53 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2018 10:48:53 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4085] New: Fancy.dll fails to load on updated OS Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4085 Bug ID: 4085 Summary: Fancy.dll fails to load on updated OS Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail (Windows) Version: 3.16.0 Hardware: PC OS: Windows 10 Status: NEW Severity: major Priority: P3 Component: default Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: gerard.seibert at gmail.com Created attachment 1911 --> https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1911&action=edit Error Message Windows 10 Pro / amd 64 Windows Evaluation Copy: Version 1809; OS Build 17744.1003 I just updated to the latest version of the Microsoft beta version. Suddenly, the "fancy" plugin will no longer load. I did a complete removal of claws-mail and then reinstalled it to no avail. I have attached a screenshot of the error message when I attempt to load it. The debug output follows: C:\Users\Gerard>C:\Users\Gerard\Downloads\gdb.exe "C:\Program Files (x86)\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe" This binary was built by Equation Solution . GNU gdb (GDB) 7.12 Copyright (C) 2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type "show copying" and "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "x86_64-w64-mingw32". Type "show configuration" for configuration details. For bug reporting instructions, please see: . Find the GDB manual and other documentation resources online at: . For help, type "help". Type "apropos word" to search for commands related to "word"... Reading symbols from C:\Program Files (x86)\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe...(no debugging symbols found)...done. (gdb) run Starting program: C:\Program Files (x86)\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe [New Thread 15820.0x2310] warning: Can not parse XML library list; XML support was disabled at compile time [New Thread 15820.0x4498] [New Thread 15820.0x4a88] [New Thread 15820.0x42fc] [New Thread 15820.0x20a8] [New Thread 15820.0x1bc0] [New Thread 15820.0x35ac] [New Thread 15820.0x28e4] [New Thread 15820.0x4170] [New Thread 15820.0x4b34] [New Thread 15820.0x22d8] [Thread 15820.0x22d8 exited with code 0] [New Thread 15820.0x38a4] [Thread 15820.0x38a4 exited with code 0] [New Thread 15820.0x3fb4] [Thread 15820.0x3fb4 exited with code 0] [New Thread 15820.0x39e4] [Thread 15820.0x39e4 exited with code 0] [New Thread 15820.0x31cc] [Thread 15820.0x31cc exited with code 0] [New Thread 15820.0x4b60] [New Thread 15820.0x3708] [New Thread 15820.0x2420] [New Thread 15820.0x2dac] [New Thread 15820.0x473c] [New Thread 15820.0x3a60] [New Thread 15820.0x493c] [Thread 15820.0x493c exited with code 0] [New Thread 15820.0x3088] [New Thread 15820.0xfe4] [New Thread 15820.0x2128] [New Thread 15820.0x31c0] [New Thread 15820.0x3e50] [New Thread 15820.0x4b40] [New Thread 15820.0x40f8] [New Thread 15820.0x24a8] [Thread 15820.0x4b40 exited with code 0] [New Thread 15820.0x4088] warning: onecoreuap\shell\ext\thumbnailcache\lib\thumbcacheobj.cpp(2076)\thumbcache.dll!6495DDBA: (caller: 6495DCC9) ReturnHr(1) tid(4b60) 80070057 The parameter is incorrect. warning: onecoreuap\shell\ext\thumbnailcache\lib\thumbcacheobj.cpp(2076)\thumbcache.dll!6495DDBA: (caller: 6495DCC9) ReturnHr(2) tid(4b60) 80070057 The parameter is incorrect. warning: onecoreuap\shell\ext\thumbnailcache\lib\thumbcacheobj.cpp(2076)\thumbcache.dll!6495DDBA: (caller: 6495DCC9) ReturnHr(3) tid(4b60) 80070057 The parameter is incorrect. warning: shell\explorerframe\nsccloudstateiconextractor.cpp(152)\explorerframe.dll!087E6575: (caller: 087E644E) ReturnHr(1) tid(4b60) 80004005 Unspecified error warning: shell\explorerframe\nsccloudstateiconextractor.cpp(127)\explorerframe.dll!087E6484: (caller: 087E65DE) ReturnHr(2) tid(4b60) 80004005 Unspecified error warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(745)\SHELL32.dll!76AA4499: (caller: 76AA4516) ReturnHr(1) tid(1bc0) 80040154 Class not registered warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(861)\SHELL32.dll!76AA455F: (caller: 76AA3E2C) LogHr(1) tid(1bc0) 80040154 Class not registered Msg:[Creating icon overlay handler from Registry failed. The CLSID is {C418E880-6280-4010-A888-FD76028E5511}.] warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(745)\SHELL32.dll!76AA4499: (caller: 76AA4516) ReturnHr(2) tid(1bc0) 80040154 Class not registered warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(861)\SHELL32.dll!76AA455F: (caller: 76AA3E2C) LogHr(2) tid(1bc0) 80040154 Class not registered Msg:[Creating icon overlay handler from Registry failed. The CLSID is {5F4A6070-DB92-4C56-A487-F3850430608F}.] warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(745)\SHELL32.dll!76AA4499: (caller: 76AA4516) ReturnHr(3) tid(1bc0) 80040154 Class not registered warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(861)\SHELL32.dll!76AA455F: (caller: 76AA3E2C) LogHr(3) tid(1bc0) 80040154 Class not registered Msg:[Creating icon overlay handler from Registry failed. The CLSID is {EE73A341-C788-4A6B-B1EF-DDBFC0F190B6}.] warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(745)\SHELL32.dll!76AA4499: (caller: 76AA4516) ReturnHr(4) tid(1bc0) 80040154 Class not registered warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(861)\SHELL32.dll!76AA455F: (caller: 76AA3E2C) LogHr(4) tid(1bc0) 80040154 Class not registered Msg:[Creating icon overlay handler from Registry failed. The CLSID is {28CDCD88-B179-49D6-8B21-1A9AF9C0AE13}.] warning: [check]work statison:1 warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(745)\SHELL32.dll!76AA4499: (caller: 76AA4516) ReturnHr(5) tid(3088) 80040154 Class not registered warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(861)\SHELL32.dll!76AA455F: (caller: 76AA3E2C) LogHr(5) tid(3088) 80040154 Class not registered Msg:[Creating icon overlay handler from Registry failed. The CLSID is {C418E880-6280-4010-A888-FD76028E5511}.] warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(745)\SHELL32.dll!76AA4499: (caller: 76AA4516) ReturnHr(6) tid(3088) 80040154 Class not registered warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(861)\SHELL32.dll!76AA455F: (caller: 76AA3E2C) LogHr(6) tid(3088) 80040154 Class not registered Msg:[Creating icon overlay handler from Registry failed. The CLSID is {5F4A6070-DB92-4C56-A487-F3850430608F}.] warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(745)\SHELL32.dll!76AA4499: (caller: 76AA4516) ReturnHr(7) tid(3088) 80040154 Class not registered warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(861)\SHELL32.dll!76AA455F: (caller: 76AA3E2C) LogHr(7) tid(3088) 80040154 Class not registered Msg:[Creating icon overlay handler from Registry failed. The CLSID is {EE73A341-C788-4A6B-B1EF-DDBFC0F190B6}.] warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(745)\SHELL32.dll!76AA4499: (caller: 76AA4516) ReturnHr(8) tid(3088) 80040154 Class not registered warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(861)\SHELL32.dll!76AA455F: (caller: 76AA3E2C) LogHr(8) tid(3088) 80040154 Class not registered Msg:[Creating icon overlay handler from Registry failed. The CLSID is {28CDCD88-B179-49D6-8B21-1A9AF9C0AE13}.] warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(745)\SHELL32.dll!76AA4499: (caller: 76AA4516) ReturnHr(9) tid(fe4) 80040154 Class not registered warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(861)\SHELL32.dll!76AA455F: (caller: 76AA3E2C) LogHr(9) tid(fe4) 80040154 Class not registered Msg:[Creating icon overlay handler from Registry failed. The CLSID is {C418E880-6280-4010-A888-FD76028E5511}.] warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(745)\SHELL32.dll!76AA4499: (caller: 76AA4516) ReturnHr(10) tid(fe4) 80040154 Class not registered warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(861)\SHELL32.dll!76AA455F: (caller: 76AA3E2C) LogHr(10) tid(fe4) 80040154 Class not registered Msg:[Creating icon overlay handler from Registry failed. The CLSID is {5F4A6070-DB92-4C56-A487-F3850430608F}.] warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(745)\SHELL32.dll!76AA4499: (caller: 76AA4516) ReturnHr(11) tid(fe4) 80040154 Class not registered warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(861)\SHELL32.dll!76AA455F: (caller: 76AA3E2C) LogHr(11) tid(fe4) 80040154 Class not registered Msg:[Creating icon overlay handler from Registry failed. The CLSID is {EE73A341-C788-4A6B-B1EF-DDBFC0F190B6}.] warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(745)\SHELL32.dll!76AA4499: (caller: 76AA4516) ReturnHr(12) tid(fe4) 80040154 Class not registered warning: shell\shell32\ovrlaymn.cpp(861)\SHELL32.dll!76AA455F: (caller: 76AA3E2C) LogHr(12) tid(fe4) 80040154 Class not registered Msg:[Creating icon overlay handler from Registry failed. The CLSID is {28CDCD88-B179-49D6-8B21-1A9AF9C0AE13}.] warning: file name is : C:\Users\Gerard\Desktop\Adobe Application Manager 9.0 warning: non offline file warning: file name is : C:\Users\Gerard\Desktop\GPUCache warning: non offline file warning: file name is : C:\Users\Gerard\Desktop\AllCommands.{ED7BA470-8E54-465E-825C-99712043E01C} warning: non offline file warning: file name is : C:\Users\Gerard\Desktop\Old Firefox Data warning: non offline file warning: file name is : C:\Users\Gerard\Desktop\Tor Browser warning: non offline file warning: file name is : C:\Program Files (x86)\Claws Mail\lib\claws-mail\plugins\smime.deps warning: non offline file [Thread 15820.0x3708 exited with code 0] [Thread 15820.0x4b60 exited with code 0] warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]: warning: Heap block at 03BDCDC0 modified at 03BDCDE2 past requested size of 1a warning: file name is : C:\Program Files (x86)\Claws Mail\lib warning: non offline file warning: file name is : C:\Program Files (x86)\Claws Mail\lib\claws-mail\plugins warning: non offline file warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]: warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 023D0000, 04F518C8 ) warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]: warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 023D0000, 04F518C8 ) warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]: warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 023D0000, 04F51960 ) warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]: warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 023D0000, 04F51960 ) Thread 1 received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x0000002b in ?? () (gdb) bt full #0 0x0000002b in ?? () No symbol table info available. (gdb) quit A debugging session is active. Inferior 1 [process 15820] will be killed. Quit anyway? (y or n) y I have no idea what to do to correct this problem. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 2 13:27:24 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2018 11:27:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4085] Fancy.dll fails to load on updated OS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4085 --- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian --- I saw this too on a devel build of Windows 10. I think you have to install the Microsoft C++ Redistributable (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2977003/the-latest-supported-visual-c-downloads), because for some reason, Microsoft decided it's a good idea to remove it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 2 17:00:28 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2018 15:00:28 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4085] Fancy.dll fails to load on updated OS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4085 --- Comment #2 from Gerard Seibert --- I checked, and I do have all versions of Microsoft C++ Redistributable installed. I tried the 64-bit version of claws-mail, but that exhibits the same problem. I think it is worth noting that only the "fancy.dll" module exhibits this problem. The other modules work fine. I tried unloading and reloading them without any problems. Since I am beta testing for Microsoft, I could submit a detailed report to them regarding this problem. However, I do not know exactly what to report. Since claws-mail is not a Microsoft product, I think I would need to supply specific documentation. Any ideas? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 2 20:29:14 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2018 18:29:14 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4085] Fancy.dll fails to load on updated OS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4085 --- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian --- OK, it took a while to pinpoint what's missing, but copying the "Universal CRT"[1] dll from Windows 10 SDK[2] makes Fancy work again on Win10. The issue I'm seeing right now, is that now Fancy works even if the DLL is removed again, even if the SDK is reinstalled, and the system rebooted. Good old Microsoft making things murky. Can you please install this SDK, check if Fancy loads after you copy ucrtbase.dll to the Claws Mail install dir? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 2 21:50:48 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2018 19:50:48 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4085] Fancy.dll fails to load on updated OS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4085 --- Comment #4 from Gerard Seibert --- There are several "ucrtbase.dll" in that SDK. Which one should I copy? I am using the 64-bit claws-mail right now. Also, do I place it in the "C:\Program Files\Claws Mail" directory or somewhere else? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From sylpheed at 911networks.com Mon Sep 3 02:12:50 2018 From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 17:12:50 -0700 Subject: [Users] Subject line Message-ID: <20180902171250.44473323@frogguski.911networks.com> CM 3.17.1 on Manjaro I have received this promo email from Dell. The subject line has an umbrella at the beginning of the subject line. https://i.imgur.com/aFE51Jj.png Which font/emoji is it? Which font/emoji I can select? I'd love to put a small camera at the beginning of the subject line. -- sknahT vyS From subscript at free.fr Mon Sep 3 02:26:58 2018 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 02:26:58 +0200 Subject: [Users] Semi-OT: grammar/style checker In-Reply-To: <20180831093823.39adeb7e@frogguski.911networks.com> References: <20180831093823.39adeb7e@frogguski.911networks.com> Message-ID: <20180903022658.02d5ed5d@ladybug> Hello, On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 09:38:50 -0700 sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote: > CM 3.6.0 on Manjaro. > > My spell checker is working great, but is there some type of > grammar/style checker that would work with CM? > > What are you guys using? I can corroborate the global silence here: nothing. I'm not aware of any piece of software that would do that work for you. Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From subscript at free.fr Mon Sep 3 02:30:37 2018 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 02:30:37 +0200 Subject: [Users] Subject line In-Reply-To: <20180902171250.44473323@frogguski.911networks.com> References: <20180902171250.44473323@frogguski.911networks.com> Message-ID: <20180903023037.3556fd59@ladybug> Hello, On Sun, 2 Sep 2018 17:12:50 -0700 sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote: > CM 3.17.1 on Manjaro > > I have received this promo email from Dell. The subject line has an > umbrella at the beginning of the subject line. > > https://i.imgur.com/aFE51Jj.png > > Which font/emoji is it? Which font/emoji I can select? > > I'd love to put a small camera at the beginning of the subject line. You'll have to use multi-byte characters (UTF-8) and a font that proposes the symbol you want, not sure everyone will be able to read what you send, it will depend on what font is used on your side, and what font are used by readers. Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 3 11:23:55 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 09:23:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4086] New: VCalendar invitation presented as "Error - Unknown calendar component type." Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4086 Bug ID: 4086 Summary: VCalendar invitation presented as "Error - Unknown calendar component type." Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.17.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/vCalendar Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: rol at as2917.net Claws 3.17.0, using libical 2.0.0, is presenting the invitations I received as empty except for the Event: line that contaiins "Error - Unknown calendar component type.". I've started Claws in --debug mode. It displays: procheader.c:155:generic_get_one_field: empty line message/rfc822 (offset:0 length:7377 encoding: 6) multipart/alternative (offset:2212 length:5165 encoding: 6) text/plain (offset:2353 length:1 encoding: 3) text/html (offset:2495 length:2356 encoding: 3) text/calendar (offset:4997 length:2327 encoding: 4) procheader.c:155:generic_get_one_field: empty line mimeview.c:828:text/calendar messageview.c:1289:found part 6/alternative mimeview.c:828:text/calendar mimeview.c:828:text/calendar vcalendar.c:246:vcal_viewer_get_widget vcalendar.c:852:vcal_viewer_show_mimepart : /home2/rol/Mail/Dossiers personnels/Boite de reception/444542 vcalendar.c:255:vcal_viewer_clear_viewer vcalendar.c:229:creating /home2/rol/.claws-mail/mimetmp/0000009e.mimetmp vcal_folder.c:2184:Converting DTSTART to UTC. vcal_folder.c:2200:Converting DTEND to UTC. vcalendar.c:881:TIMING vcal_viewer_show_mimepart : 0s002ms summaryview.c:3773:TIMING summary_display_msg_full : 0s006ms and the file /home2/rol/.claws-mail/mimetmp/0000009e.mimetmp contains: BEGIN:VCALENDAR METHOD:REQUEST PRODID:Microsoft Exchange Server 2010 VERSION:2.0 BEGIN:VTIMEZONE TZID:Romance Standard Time BEGIN:STANDARD DTSTART:16010101T030000 TZOFFSETFROM:+0200 TZOFFSETTO:+0100 RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;INTERVAL=1;BYDAY=-1SU;BYMONTH=10 END:STANDARD BEGIN:DAYLIGHT DTSTART:16010101T020000 TZOFFSETFROM:+0100 TZOFFSETTO:+0200 RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;INTERVAL=1;BYDAY=-1SU;BYMONTH=3 END:DAYLIGHT END:VTIMEZONE BEGIN:VEVENT ORGANIZER;CN=My Colleague:MAILTO:My.Colleague at xxxx.net ATTENDEE;ROLE=REQ-PARTICIPANT;PARTSTAT=NEEDS-ACTION;RSVP=TRUE;CN=Paul Rolla nd:MAILTO:rol at xxxx.net DESCRIPTION;LANGUAGE=en-US:\n UID:040000008200E00074C5B7101A82E00800000000A0D0F5287543D401000000000000000 010000000D29004CD1B9C5F4A97702C6FF336B1A5 SUMMARY;LANGUAGE=en-US:Points projets EU DTSTART;TZID=Romance Standard Time:20180903T140000 DTEND;TZID=Romance Standard Time:20180903T153000 CLASS:PUBLIC PRIORITY:5 DTSTAMP:20180903T085943Z TRANSP:OPAQUE STATUS:CONFIRMED SEQUENCE:0 LOCATION;LANGUAGE=en-US:JP office X-MICROSOFT-CDO-APPT-SEQUENCE:0 X-MICROSOFT-CDO-OWNERAPPTID:-1100769310 X-MICROSOFT-CDO-BUSYSTATUS:TENTATIVE X-MICROSOFT-CDO-INTENDEDSTATUS:BUSY X-MICROSOFT-CDO-ALLDAYEVENT:FALSE X-MICROSOFT-CDO-IMPORTANCE:1 X-MICROSOFT-CDO-INSTTYPE:0 X-MICROSOFT-DONOTFORWARDMEETING:FALSE X-MICROSOFT-DISALLOW-COUNTER:FALSE BEGIN:VALARM DESCRIPTION:REMINDER TRIGGER;RELATED=START:-PT15M ACTION:DISPLAY END:VALARM END:VEVENT END:VCALENDAR -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 3 11:49:10 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 09:49:10 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4086] VCalendar invitation presented as "Error - Unknown calendar component type." In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4086 --- Comment #1 from wwp --- I saved your sample to a test.vcal file and could subscribe to it w/o issue (libical 2.0.0 here too). Could you try saving to a local file and subscribe to it ? (file:///tmp/test.vcal for instance) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 3 12:01:41 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 10:01:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4086] VCalendar invitation presented as "Error - Unknown calendar component type." In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4086 --- Comment #2 from Paul Rolland --- Can you explain how to do the subscription to a local file using Claws ? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 3 12:15:26 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 10:15:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4086] VCalendar invitation presented as "Error - Unknown calendar component type." In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4086 --- Comment #3 from wwp --- Create a text file named /tmp/test.vcal, containing the VCALENDAR data (from BEGIN:VCALENDAR to END:VCALENDAR). Once the file is created, right-click the vCalendar node in CM, "Subscribe to Webcal..." and type this Webcal URL: file:///tmp/test.vcal . -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 3 12:34:32 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 10:34:32 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4086] VCalendar invitation presented as "Error - Unknown calendar component type." In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4086 Paul Rolland changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #4 from Paul Rolland --- OK,did that. I now have a new item in my "vCalendar" item named: rol.vcal (the name of the file I subscribed to). Now, if I click on that item, Claws goes Segfault :( mh.c:236:MH scan not required: /home2/rol/Mail/Dossiers personnels/Claws (1535970488 <= 1535970488) folder.c:2761:Save cache for folder #mh/Mailbox/Dossiers personnels/Claws msgcache.c:1189: Writing message cache to (null) and (null)... msgcache.c:1270:done. msgcache.c:1271:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s000ms mh.c:1474:MH: forced mtime of Claws to 1535970488 folder.c:1239:Counting total number of messages... main.c:908:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service files mh.c:236:MH scan not required: /home2/rol/Mail/Dossiers personnels/Claws (1535970488 <= 1535970488) msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms mh.c:1409:wrote unseen sequence: 'unseen: 45-101 117-122 124-127 129-216' mh.c:1442:TIMING mh_write_sequences : 0s000ms mh.c:1474:MH: forced mtime of Claws to 1535970625 folderview.c:2309:Folder .rol.vcal is selected folderview.c:2325:Opening folder .rol.vcal... folder.c:2179:Scanning folder .rol.vcal for cache changes. vcal_folder.c:849: num for file:///tmp/rol.vcal vcal_folder.c:501:fetching [New Thread 0x7fffd338d700 (LWP 27853)] [Thread 0x7fffd338d700 (LWP 27853) exited] vcal_folder.c:2184:Converting DTSTART to UTC. vcal_folder.c:2200:Converting DTEND to UTC. vcal_folder.c:573:add 1 : 040000008200E00074C5B7101A82E00800000000A0D0F5287543D401000000000000000010000000D29004CD1B9C5F4A97702C6FF336B1A5 vcal_folder.c:679:return 3 folder.c:2265:Remembered message 1 for fetching folder.c:2265:Remembered message 2 for fetching vcal_folder.c:926:get_msginfo vcal_folder.c:1010: fetch for file:///tmp/rol.vcal 2 codeconv.c:1520:current locale: en_US.UTF-8 vcal_folder.c:1000:feed item dump to /home2/rol/.claws-mail/tmp/evt-1000-today-events at vcal vcal_folder.c:909:parse_msg procheader.c:155:generic_get_one_field: empty line vcal_folder.c:945: adding 2 vcal_folder.c:950: got msginfo 0xf03e80 vcal_folder.c:926:get_msginfo vcal_folder.c:1010: fetch for file:///tmp/rol.vcal 1 Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. but I think I understand now why: (gdb) where #0 0x00007ffff2511c8a in strlen () at /lib64/libc.so.6 #1 0x00007ffff25119ae in strdup () at /lib64/libc.so.6 #2 0x00007fffd52f3d79 in icalvalue_as_ical_string_r () at /lib64/libical.so.1 #3 0x00007fffd52e874b in icalproperty_as_ical_string_r () at /lib64/libical.so.1 .... and it seems that this is using libical.so.1 instead of libical.so.2 :( Back to my compilation to understand and fix... really sorry for the noise !!! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From nicolas.claws at iselin.ch Tue Sep 4 21:05:21 2018 From: nicolas.claws at iselin.ch (nicolas.claws at iselin.ch) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 21:05:21 +0200 Subject: [Users] Ubuntu bionic: HTML viewer plugin for Claws Message-ID: <20180904210521.7514a133@iota> Hi Claws-Team, I am a happy user of Claws since years. I even persuaded my mom and my dad that HTML-Mails are a bad thing and there is no need to create them and so they are using Claws too. Unfortunately, they still receive a lot of HTML-mails and the fancy plugin was a faithful companion for years. Now I am about to upgrade their machines to "bionic", the LTS release from spring 2018. As far as I have understood, fancy was relying on too old code and availability on ubuntu stopped with xenial. I was happy to discover that "claws-mail-dillo-viewer" is available for cosmic (see package search below), but I really do need a HTML-Viewer for bionic. Are there any plans to bring dillo to bionic (amd64) too? Is there a PPA for it? Maybe it is possible use the cosmic deb source to backport it to bionic? I know that a simple double click on the icon for the HTML-Part launches an external browser - but the plugin way would be much nicer. Furthermore, I am able to use a compiler myself, but I do this about once every second year, so I don't feel really safe at it... Any hint appreciated :-) Regards Nicolas Ubuntu Package search: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=claws-mail From dave at dawoodfall.net Wed Sep 5 01:14:52 2018 From: dave at dawoodfall.net (David Woodfall) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 00:14:52 +0100 Subject: [Users] Problem with opening links in RSSyl Message-ID: <20180905001452.2cd976fd@raven.thebigvoid.org> Hi I tend to be mouseless as much as possible and I can tab my way through the links in a newsfeed item, but the problem is that when I use Shift + F10 to bring up the right click menu, highlight 'open in browser' and press enter, nothing happens. It works fine with the mouse of course. I've also tried using xdotool to do the same thing with the real mouse, but that also fails. Any ideas? -Dave From dave at dawoodfall.net Wed Sep 5 01:27:47 2018 From: dave at dawoodfall.net (David Woodfall) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 00:27:47 +0100 Subject: [Users] Header pane customisation? Message-ID: <20180905002747.0e417573@raven.thebigvoid.org> Is it possible to customise the small header pane above messages? I'd like to add the date to it for newsfeeds if it's possible because you don't see the feed date when you open a feed item in a window. -Dave From ticho at claws-mail.org Wed Sep 5 08:37:30 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 08:37:30 +0200 Subject: [Users] Problem with opening links in RSSyl In-Reply-To: <20180905001452.2cd976fd@raven.thebigvoid.org> References: <20180905001452.2cd976fd@raven.thebigvoid.org> Message-ID: <20180905083730.5be60aa8@penny> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 00:14:52 +0100 David Woodfall wrote: > Hi > > I tend to be mouseless as much as possible and I can tab my way through the > links in a newsfeed item, but the problem is that when I use Shift + F10 to > bring up the right click menu, highlight 'open in browser' and press enter, > nothing happens. > > It works fine with the mouse of course. > > I've also tried using xdotool to do the same thing with the real mouse, > but that also fails. > > Any ideas? You should run "claws-mail --debug" in a terminal, and observe the output when you activate the "open in browser" menu item like you described. It should print exact command that it's trying to start the browser with, and you can troubleshoot from there. Regards, -- Andrej From ricardo at mones.org Wed Sep 5 10:57:17 2018 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 10:57:17 +0200 Subject: [Users] Format of extraheaderrc In-Reply-To: <20180831202923.75dd0bdd@acer-suse.lan> References: <20180831125534.21304f5a.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20180831142923.7eae28f8.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20180831150009.00007a6a@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20180831161639.2f7edcdb.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20180831191522.659b21aa@busgosu> <20180831202923.75dd0bdd@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: <20180905085717.y5fnz66gsguiskf2@busgosu> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 08:29:23PM +0100, Dave Howorth wrote: > On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 19:15:22 +0200 > Ricardo Mones wrote: > > > On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 16:16:39 +0200 > > Tristan Miller wrote: > > > > > Perhaps I could write the message, save it in the drafts folder, > > > edit it with a text editor to add the missing In-Reply-To header, > > > then reopen it and send it with Claws Mail. > > > > Yep, that could work. I wonder... are you trying to handcraft a reply > > to a message you can't reply (why not?), but, somehow, have its > > message-id? > > I think he already explained that. It's a list message that he's > already deleted. Presumably he can see the ID on a list archive or > similar? You're right, I overlooked that, sorry! and thanks for your answer ;-) -- Ricardo Mones ~ Datei nicht gefunden Fehler 404 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dave at dawoodfall.net Wed Sep 5 13:26:11 2018 From: dave at dawoodfall.net (David Woodfall) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 12:26:11 +0100 Subject: [Users] Problem with opening links in RSSyl In-Reply-To: <20180905083730.5be60aa8@penny> References: <20180905001452.2cd976fd@raven.thebigvoid.org> <20180905083730.5be60aa8@penny> Message-ID: <20180905112611.GB948@blackswan> On Wednesday 5 September 2018 08:37, Andrej Kacian put forth the proposition: > On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 00:14:52 +0100 > David Woodfall wrote: > > > Hi > > > > I tend to be mouseless as much as possible and I can tab my way through the > > links in a newsfeed item, but the problem is that when I use Shift + F10 to > > bring up the right click menu, highlight 'open in browser' and press enter, > > nothing happens. > > > > It works fine with the mouse of course. > > > > I've also tried using xdotool to do the same thing with the real mouse, > > but that also fails. > > > > Any ideas? > > You should run "claws-mail --debug" in a terminal, and observe the > output when you activate the "open in browser" menu item like you > described. It should print exact command that it's trying to start the > browser with, and you can troubleshoot from there. A plain diff between keyboard and mouse output shows: < fancy_viewer.c:653:open outer: (null) > fancy_viewer.c:653:open outer: https://arstechnica.com/?p=1366139 > utils.c:3254:execute_command_line(): executing: /path/to/browser 'https://arstechnica.com/?p=1366139' I should also add that Shift+F10 works as expected for folders and on messages in list etc. -Dave -- I don't know why, but first C programs tend to look a lot worse than first programs in any other language (maybe except for fortran, but then I suspect all fortran programs look like `firsts') -- Olaf Kirch .--. oo (____)// ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~' From subscript at free.fr Wed Sep 5 14:56:22 2018 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 14:56:22 +0200 Subject: [Users] Problem with opening links in RSSyl In-Reply-To: <20180905112611.GB948@blackswan> References: <20180905001452.2cd976fd@raven.thebigvoid.org> <20180905083730.5be60aa8@penny> <20180905112611.GB948@blackswan> Message-ID: <20180905145622.221e47cd@ladybug> Hello David, On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 12:26:11 +0100 David Woodfall wrote: > On Wednesday 5 September 2018 08:37, > Andrej Kacian put forth the proposition: > > On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 00:14:52 +0100 > > David Woodfall wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > I tend to be mouseless as much as possible and I can tab my way through the > > > links in a newsfeed item, but the problem is that when I use Shift + F10 to > > > bring up the right click menu, highlight 'open in browser' and press enter, > > > nothing happens. > > > > > > It works fine with the mouse of course. > > > > > > I've also tried using xdotool to do the same thing with the real mouse, > > > but that also fails. > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > You should run "claws-mail --debug" in a terminal, and observe the > > output when you activate the "open in browser" menu item like you > > described. It should print exact command that it's trying to start the > > browser with, and you can troubleshoot from there. > > A plain diff between keyboard and mouse output shows: > > < fancy_viewer.c:653:open outer: (null) > > > fancy_viewer.c:653:open outer: https://arstechnica.com/?p=1366139 > > utils.c:3254:execute_command_line(): executing: /path/to/browser 'https://arstechnica.com/?p=1366139' > > I should also add that Shift+F10 works as expected for folders and on > messages in list etc. I see the same here, open outer: (null) when using the keyboard, and a valid link (working) from a mouse click. Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From epodata at gmail.com Wed Sep 5 15:24:08 2018 From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 15:24:08 +0200 Subject: [Users] Q: Reply7Sender. Message-ID: <20180905152408.59699c98@Erik-PC.epolan.dk> What's the difference between the functions Reply and Sender on the main display? To me it looks like they are identical. -- Regards, Erik P. Olsen From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 5 15:36:35 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 13:36:35 -0000 Subject: [Users] Q: Reply7Sender. In-Reply-To: <20180905152408.59699c98@Erik-PC.epolan.dk> References: <20180905152408.59699c98@Erik-PC.epolan.dk> Message-ID: <20180905143635.750a0190@localhost> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 15:24:08 +0200 "Erik P. Olsen" wrote: > What's the difference between the functions Reply and Sender on the > main display? To me it looks like they are identical. If you get a message that has both From: addr1 at domain.org Reply-To: addr2 at domain.org 'Reply' would reply to addr2 at domain.org 'Reply to sender' would reply to addr1 at domain.org 'Reply to sender' always favours the address in the From header. with regards Paul From nicolas.claws at iselin.ch Wed Sep 5 16:01:01 2018 From: nicolas.claws at iselin.ch (Nicolas Iselin) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 16:01:01 +0200 Subject: [Users] Q: Reply7Sender. In-Reply-To: <20180905143635.750a0190@localhost> References: <20180905152408.59699c98@Erik-PC.epolan.dk> <20180905143635.750a0190@localhost> Message-ID: <20180905160101.3a860bed@nbsyg08> Am Wed, 5 Sep 2018 13:36:35 -0000 schrieb Paul : > If you get a message that has both > From: addr1 at domain.org > Reply-To: addr2 at domain.org > > 'Reply' would reply to addr2 at domain.org > 'Reply to sender' would reply to addr1 at domain.org > > 'Reply to sender' always favours the address in the From header. > which is extremely handy when you received a mail from a mailing list (that has the "Reply-To" set to the mailing list usually) and want to reply to the sender only. At least for me this is the main use case for "reply to sender" Nicolas From ticho at claws-mail.org Wed Sep 5 17:33:43 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 17:33:43 +0200 Subject: [Users] Problem with opening links in RSSyl In-Reply-To: <20180905145622.221e47cd@ladybug> References: <20180905001452.2cd976fd@raven.thebigvoid.org> <20180905083730.5be60aa8@penny> <20180905112611.GB948@blackswan> <20180905145622.221e47cd@ladybug> Message-ID: <20180905173343.0f01dc08@penny> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 14:56:22 +0200 wwp wrote: > I see the same here, open outer: (null) when using the keyboard, and a > valid link (working) from a mouse click. Fixed now in git: https://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=288d3a7 Regards, -- Andrej -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From dave at dawoodfall.net Wed Sep 5 22:26:30 2018 From: dave at dawoodfall.net (David Woodfall) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:26:30 +0100 Subject: [Users] Problem with opening links in RSSyl In-Reply-To: <20180905173343.0f01dc08@penny> References: <20180905001452.2cd976fd@raven.thebigvoid.org> <20180905083730.5be60aa8@penny> <20180905112611.GB948@blackswan> <20180905145622.221e47cd@ladybug> <20180905173343.0f01dc08@penny> Message-ID: <20180905202630.GC948@blackswan> On Wednesday 5 September 2018 17:33, Andrej Kacian put forth the proposition: > On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 14:56:22 +0200 > wwp wrote: > > > I see the same here, open outer: (null) when using the keyboard, and a > > valid link (working) from a mouse click. > > Fixed now in git: > https://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=288d3a7 Thank you very much. Works a treat. -Dave -- > : Any porters out there should feel happier knowing that DEC is shipping > : me an AlphaPC that I intend to try getting linux running on: this will > : definitely help flush out some of the most flagrant unportable stuff. > : The Alpha is much more different from the i386 than the 68k stuff is, so > : it's likely to get most of the stuff fixed. > > It's posts like this that almost convince us non-believers that there > really is a god. -- Anthony Lovell, to Linus's remarks about porting .--. oo (____)// ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~' From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Thu Sep 6 08:36:31 2018 From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter Richards) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 16:36:31 +1000 Subject: [Users] HTML rendering problems Message-ID: <20180906163631.4823d1d5@peter-Inspiron-3542> Hi, In September last year, I had HTML rendering problems, in not being able to read what was being sent to me. I tried those buttons on the right, to give a different view; all to no avail. During the course of 2 weeks, there were no less than 45 emails sent to and fro, all mostly because I could not 'see' what was being sent. Today the problem appeared again. I even copy/pasted the HTML into seamonkey, but it still wouldn't render properly. The person had added links to images and all sorts of documentation, however I could not see any images or links, except for two at the start of the email. Is there some setting in Claws that I am missing, in regards to HTML rendering please ? Cheers, Peter From silver.bullet at zoho.com Thu Sep 6 09:04:52 2018 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 09:04:52 +0200 Subject: [Users] HTML rendering problems In-Reply-To: <20180906163631.4823d1d5@peter-Inspiron-3542> References: <20180906163631.4823d1d5@peter-Inspiron-3542> Message-ID: <20180906090452.6d065d5e@utnubu> Under Configuration > Preferences... > Message View > Text Options > HTML messages > I chose [x] Render HTML message as text [ ] Render HTML-only messages with plugin if possible and Select the HTML part of multipart/alternative messages is just the default selection, so checked or unchecked, both have got pitfalls. If unchecked some messages are "empty" by default, if checked quotes and line wrapping of some messages is "fishy" by default. You need to use the buttons on the right, if you check or uncheck this option. From dave at howorth.org.uk Thu Sep 6 10:12:31 2018 From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 09:12:31 +0100 Subject: [Users] HTML rendering problems In-Reply-To: <20180906163631.4823d1d5@peter-Inspiron-3542> References: <20180906163631.4823d1d5@peter-Inspiron-3542> Message-ID: <20180906091231.754deabd@acer-suse.lan> On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 16:36:31 +1000 Peter Richards wrote: > In September last year, I had HTML rendering problems, in not being > able to read what was being sent to me. I tried those buttons on the > right, to give a different view; all to no avail. During the course of > 2 weeks, there were no less than 45 emails sent to and fro, all mostly > because I could not 'see' what was being sent. > > Today the problem appeared again. I even copy/pasted the HTML into > seamonkey, but it still wouldn't render properly. The person had added > links to images and all sorts of documentation, however I could not > see any images or links, except for two at the start of the email. > > Is there some setting in Claws that I am missing, in regards to HTML > rendering please ? If seamonkey also cannot render it, maybe the problem is with the HTML that is being sent rather than with claws' rendering of it? If you type CTRL+U whilst viewing the message, you can see the source of the message. i.e. what was actually sent. Have look at that and see whether it seems sensible. From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Thu Sep 6 12:15:29 2018 From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter Richards) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 20:15:29 +1000 Subject: [Users] HTML rendering problems In-Reply-To: <20180906090452.6d065d5e@utnubu> References: <20180906163631.4823d1d5@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20180906090452.6d065d5e@utnubu> Message-ID: <20180906201529.458b46b4@peter-Inspiron-3542> Hi, On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 09:04:52 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Under > > Configuration > Preferences... > Message View > Text Options > > HTML messages > > > I chose > > [x] Render HTML message as text > [ ] Render HTML-only messages with plugin if possible Yes that is the settings I have > and > > Select the HTML part of multipart/alternative messages Hmm, that one is unchecked, so I will try that. Just checked that, but the email still had rendering problems. I did press 'apply'. > is just the default selection, so checked or unchecked, both have got > pitfalls. If unchecked some messages are "empty" by default, if > checked quotes and line wrapping of some messages is "fishy" by > default. You need to use the buttons on the right, if you check or > uncheck this option. Okay thanks. I do get some emails (e.g. Paypal) and it seems properly 'constructed'. There are text and html parts and the email header specs state it being multipart,etc. There are no problems reading those types. The email headers on this email are: Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable and the email body commences with html tags. So there is no real 'plain text'. As this is a html only email, that option [ ] Render HTML-only messages with plugin if possible can I use a plugin like either "Dillo HTML Viewer" or "Fancy" ? Will that affect other html/text emails ? I guess it shouldn't, as the inference is "HTML-only messages" Thanks, Peter From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Thu Sep 6 12:36:28 2018 From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter Richards) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 20:36:28 +1000 Subject: [Users] HTML rendering problems In-Reply-To: <20180906091231.754deabd@acer-suse.lan> References: <20180906163631.4823d1d5@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20180906091231.754deabd@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: <20180906203628.3433178b@peter-Inspiron-3542> Hi, On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 09:12:31 +0100 Dave Howorth wrote: > On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 16:36:31 +1000 > Peter Richards wrote: > > > Is there some setting in Claws that I am missing, in regards to HTML > > rendering please ? > > If seamonkey also cannot render it, maybe the problem is with the HTML > that is being sent rather than with claws' rendering of it? > > If you type CTRL+U whilst viewing the message, you can see the source > of the message. i.e. what was actually sent. Have look at that and see > whether it seems sensible. The image references don't look sensible at all, and that were the parts that were missing when I viewed the email. Seems a lot of html special characters there, and even replacing ones like "=2E" didn't result in a valid url/uri ; only a 404. Here is how the image tags started .. References: <20180810141427.765a8f56@busgosu> <20180810143836.670035b0@acer-suse.lan> <1533910238.2967546.1469944856.2849856C@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <20180911121946.h4dxxm5k4lduepkc@busgosu> Hi Jeremy, On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 03:10:38PM +0100, Jeremy Nicoll wrote: > On Fri, 10 Aug 2018, at 14:38, Dave Howorth wrote: > > > This piqued my interest to have a look. So firstly, thanks Ricardo for > > such a useful program! And nicely written too :) > > > > Jeremy's comment looked to me like he knew what he was talking about. > > i.e. that he's actually run it on a Win 8.1 system and it works. > > Ah. Umm. I've run other perl programs which work on Windows as well > as other OSes. I assume perl makes it reasonably easy to write cross- > platform code, but that doesn't mean whoever wrote Clawsker did > so in a cross-platform way. I rather assumed they would have done. You're probably assuming too much... I can assure you that not caring about being cross-platform makes it even more easier to develop ;-) > I'm not using Claws at the moment and although looking at Clawsker > is on my list of things to do, family circumstances prevent me from > spending time on either Claws or Clawsker at the moment. I hope everything is fine! If you find time patches for this subject are welcome, though I use Windows just when required, and I try it's not required as often as I can ;-) -- Ricardo Mones ~ Never send a human to do a machine's job. Agent Smith -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: not available URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 12:00:34 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:00:34 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4076] Search for messages between timestamps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4076 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 12:06:38 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:06:38 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4066] font/ttf mimetype attachments get attached with no Content-Type In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4066 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #4 from Paul --- this is not a claws-mail bug. see https://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Installation_and_Configuration#How_can_I_change_the_suggested_mimetype_for_attachments_I_am_sending.3F -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 12:13:35 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:13:35 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4026] Impossible to use 'F10' as a hotkey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4026 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WONTFIX -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 12:30:58 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:30:58 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #5 from Paul --- I believe that this was caused by a patch added by suse to their package, Do-not-use-msginfo_list-for-compose.patch, which breaks things. This breakage was pointed out to them and the patch has been dropped since. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 12:39:11 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:39:11 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3943] 3.16.0 crashes with config from 3.15.1 and older In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3943 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 18:07:00 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 16:07:00 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889 Michal Suchánek changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID |--- --- Comment #6 from Michal Suchánek --- no, the breakage is fixed by the patch. without that patch the messages selected in the message list are used for reply address but the message shown in message view for text. Because these need not be in sync the reply address need not correspond to the message. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 19:23:26 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 17:23:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889 --- Comment #7 from Paul --- with that patch you have to open a msg to reply to it, you can't just right-click a msg to reply. also with that patch you can't select more than 1 msg (in order to open more than one compose window)and reply to them all. So it breaks more than it attempts to fix. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 21:07:50 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 19:07:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889 --- Comment #8 from Michal Suchánek --- (In reply to comment #7) > with that patch you have to open a msg to reply to it, you can't just > right-click a msg to reply. Yes, you have to do that. Since the message view is the only component that can convert message to text you won't get a message to reply to otherwise. > also with that patch you can't select more than > 1 msg (in order to open more than one compose window)and reply to them all. To reply to a number of messages quoting completely unrelated message? No, thanks. It would be awesome if the code to convert a message to text was ripped out of the messageview so you actually could quote arbitrary message and not only the one displayed but that's a feature to be implemented. > > So it breaks more than it attempts to fix. AFAICT it does not break anything what was not broken to start with. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 22:37:38 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 20:37:38 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4085] Fancy.dll fails to load on updated OS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4085 --- Comment #5 from Andrej Kacian --- I can't reproduce this anymore, both the 32-bit and the 64-bit versions seem to work just fine on a freshly downloaded 1808 build from https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/downloads/virtual-machines. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 23:44:22 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 21:44:22 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4085] Fancy.dll fails to load on updated OS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4085 --- Comment #6 from Gerard Seibert --- I am running two machines with Windows 10 Pro/amd 64 with the same development versions installed. Claws-mail (64) works fine on one but fancy fails on the other. I am creating a ticket for the Microsoft tech net to see if they have any ideas. When will you be posting and updated CM4Win version? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 00:13:09 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 22:13:09 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889 --- Comment #9 from Paul --- (In reply to comment #8) > Yes, you have to do that. Since the message view is the only component that > can convert message to text you won't get a message to reply to otherwise. You are absolutely wrong here. Try it (without the aforementioned patch) and you will see. Enter a folder without automatically opening a message. Right-click any message and choose 'reply'. > To reply to a number of messages quoting completely unrelated message? No, > thanks. No. To reply to a number of messsages, each quoting the respective message you are replying to, each being addressed to the sender of the respective message. Try it (without the aforementioned patch) and you will see. > AFAICT it does not break anything what was not broken to start with. Keep trying and you will see. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 08:58:40 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 06:58:40 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4085] Fancy.dll fails to load on updated OS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4085 Andrej Kacian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |LATER --- Comment #7 from Andrej Kacian --- I was going to wait for this issue to be resolved, but I guess I'll just go ahead and release 3.17.1 this or tomorrow's evening. Feel free to reopen this, or contact me privately if there are some developments. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 12:17:34 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 10:17:34 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4085] Fancy.dll fails to load on updated OS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4085 --- Comment #8 from Gerard Seibert --- My second PC, the one on which fancy was failing has now updated itself to version 1809, OS build 17754.1 for Windows 10 Pro. I opened claws-mail and reinstalled the fancy plugin. It worked. All is well again. These are beta builds, so I guess you have to expect a hiccup occasionally. Plus, I did file a report with Microsoft about the problem. Maybe somebody actually read it. I am looking forward to the new build. :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 12:18:19 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 10:18:19 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4085] Fancy.dll fails to load on updated OS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4085 Gerard Seibert changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Resolution|LATER |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From dave at howorth.org.uk Thu Sep 13 12:31:44 2018 From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:31:44 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 22:13:09 +0000 noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: > https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889 > > --- Comment #9 from Paul --- > (In reply to comment #8) > > Yes, you have to do that. Since the message view is the only > > component that can convert message to text you won't get a message > > to reply to otherwise. > > You are absolutely wrong here. Try it (without the aforementioned > patch) and you will see. Enter a folder without automatically opening > a message. Right-click any message and choose 'reply'. FWIW, I just tried replying to another message from this list, using the Reply entry on the context menu of that message, whilst viewing this message. I get a compose window prepopulated with the quoted body of this message, which is clearly incorrect. I'm using openSUSE Leap 15.0 and claws 3.16.0 from their repository. I don't know whether I'm seeing something broken in claws or in an openSUSE patch which I don't know whether it is applied or not? But the claws I'm running is definitely borked. Oh, and if I try from another folder where I have multiple senders, it is the sender of the message that is being viewed, not the sender of the message I am trying to reply to, that is used. So at least it's consisently incrorrect. I would never dream of actually trying to reply to a message using the context menu, or trying to reply to more than one message at once. So for me, the simplest fix would simply be to remove Reply from the context menu. Also removing the ability to select a different message in the list from the one that is displayed would be sensible for my simple-minded usage; what is the purpose of that ability? > > To reply to a number of messages quoting completely unrelated > > message? No, thanks. > > No. To reply to a number of messsages, each quoting the respective > message you are replying to, each being addressed to the sender of > the respective message. Try it (without the aforementioned patch) and > you will see. > > > AFAICT it does not break anything what was not broken to start > > with. > > Keep trying and you will see. From msuchanek at suse.de Thu Sep 13 12:41:15 2018 From: msuchanek at suse.de (Michal =?UTF-8?B?U3VjaMOhbmVr?=) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 12:41:15 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: <20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan> References: <20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: <20180913124115.28a5a1cf@naga.suse.cz> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:31:44 +0100 Dave Howorth wrote: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 22:13:09 +0000 > noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: > > > https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889 > > > > --- Comment #9 from Paul --- > > (In reply to comment #8) > > > Yes, you have to do that. Since the message view is the only > > > component that can convert message to text you won't get a message > > > to reply to otherwise. > > > > You are absolutely wrong here. Try it (without the aforementioned > > patch) and you will see. Enter a folder without automatically > > opening a message. Right-click any message and choose 'reply'. > > FWIW, I just tried replying to another message from this list, using > the Reply entry on the context menu of that message, whilst viewing > this message. I get a compose window prepopulated with the quoted > body of this message, which is clearly incorrect. Yes, that's the broken upstream behavior. > > I'm using openSUSE Leap 15.0 and claws 3.16.0 from their repository. > > I don't know whether I'm seeing something broken in claws or in an > openSUSE patch which I don't know whether it is applied or not? Apparently the patch is not applied. Otherwise you would get correct reply to the message displayed regardless of the message on which you pop up the context menu. > > But the claws I'm running is definitely borked. > > Oh, and if I try from another folder where I have multiple senders, it > is the sender of the message that is being viewed, not the sender of > the message I am trying to reply to, that is used. So at least it's > consisently incrorrect. > > > I would never dream of actually trying to reply to a message using the > context menu, or trying to reply to more than one message at once. So I would but that's something claws cannot do so I use a bandaid patch that at least fixes replying to the displayed message. > for me, the simplest fix would simply be to remove Reply from the > context menu. Also removing the ability to select a different message > in the list from the one that is displayed would be sensible for my > simple-minded usage; what is the purpose of that ability? There is a setting to always display the selected message. Thanks Michal From kardan at riseup.net Thu Sep 13 12:44:00 2018 From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 12:44:00 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: <20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan> References: <20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: <20180913124400.5a3aed70@t43.ts> Hi, did you take this from bugzilla to the list with a reason? On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:31:44 +0100 Dave Howorth wrote: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 22:13:09 +0000 > noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: > > > https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889 > > > > --- Comment #9 from Paul --- > > (In reply to comment #8) > > I'm using openSUSE Leap 15.0 and claws 3.16.0 from their repository. Are you able to reproduce it with latest claws or from git? Best, kardan From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 13:03:02 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:03:02 -0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: <20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan> References: <20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: <20180913120302.08a138d7@localhost> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:31:44 +0100 Dave Howorth wrote: > FWIW, I just tried replying to another message from this list, using > the Reply entry on the context menu of that message, whilst viewing > this message. I get a compose window prepopulated with the quoted > body of this message, which is clearly incorrect. As I said in the bug item: "Enter a folder without automatically opening a message. Right-click any message and choose 'reply'." If a message is open, then your reply is going there. with regards Paul From msuchanek at suse.de Thu Sep 13 13:15:29 2018 From: msuchanek at suse.de (Michal =?UTF-8?B?U3VjaMOhbmVr?=) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 13:15:29 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: <20180913120302.08a138d7@localhost> References: <20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan> <20180913120302.08a138d7@localhost> Message-ID: <20180913131529.44cf0819@naga.suse.cz> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:03:02 -0000 Paul wrote: > On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:31:44 +0100 > Dave Howorth wrote: > > > FWIW, I just tried replying to another message from this list, using > > the Reply entry on the context menu of that message, whilst viewing > > this message. I get a compose window prepopulated with the quoted > > body of this message, which is clearly incorrect. > > As I said in the bug item: > > "Enter a folder without automatically opening a message. > Right-click any message and choose 'reply'." > > If a message is open, then your reply is going there. Don't understand what you are saying. Can you say what is the behaviour expected by you in detail? Also how does it work with reply-all? Either way the code as is is bogus. It coalesces information from multiple messages to create an addressee list which is clearly bogus. It pretends to reply to one message while quoting another which is clearly bogus as well. Thanks Michal From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 13:23:28 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:23:28 -0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: <20180913131529.44cf0819@naga.suse.cz> References: <20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan> <20180913120302.08a138d7@localhost> <20180913131529.44cf0819@naga.suse.cz> Message-ID: <20180913122328.7c9bf040@localhost> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 13:15:29 +0200 Michal Suchánek wrote: > Don't understand what you are saying. Can you say what is the > behaviour expected by you in detail? Also how does it work with > reply-all? > > Either way the code as is is bogus. It coalesces information from > multiple messages to create an addressee list which is clearly > bogus. > > It pretends to reply to one message while quoting another which is > clearly bogus as well. No need to reply to me and the mailing list - you have to be subscribed to post, so just reply to the mailing list. Be aware that I agree that right-clicking a message and choosing reply should reply to that right-clicked message. The suse patch was no good, as it fixed one thing and broke a couple others. It needs to fix the issue without breaking anything else, (obviously!). with regards Paul From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 14:39:37 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 12:39:37 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889 --- Comment #10 from Paul --- The content of attachment 1875 has been deleted by Paul who provided the following reason: breaks more than it fixes The token used to delete this attachment was generated at 2018-09-13 14:39:22 CEST. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 14:40:55 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 12:40:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889 --- Comment #11 from Paul --- Created attachment 1913 --> https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1913&action=edit potential fix Michal, try this patch. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From dave at howorth.org.uk Thu Sep 13 17:54:19 2018 From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 16:54:19 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: <20180913124400.5a3aed70@t43.ts> References: <20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan> <20180913124400.5a3aed70@t43.ts> Message-ID: <20180913165419.08a9358b@acer-suse.lan> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 12:44:00 +0200 kardan wrote: > Hi, > > did you take this from bugzilla to the list with a reason? Yes, I'm replying to a post on the list not the bugzilla. > On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:31:44 +0100 > Dave Howorth wrote: > > > On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 22:13:09 +0000 > > noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: > > > > > https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889 > > > > > > --- Comment #9 from Paul --- > > > (In reply to comment #8) > > > > I'm using openSUSE Leap 15.0 and claws 3.16.0 from their > > repository. > > Are you able to reproduce it with latest claws or from git? I don't know. I use the distro's repositories. > Best, > kardan From dave at howorth.org.uk Thu Sep 13 18:09:24 2018 From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 17:09:24 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: <20180913120302.08a138d7@localhost> References: <20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan> <20180913120302.08a138d7@localhost> Message-ID: <20180913170924.6a026b89@acer-suse.lan> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:03:02 -0000 Paul wrote: > On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:31:44 +0100 > Dave Howorth wrote: > > > FWIW, I just tried replying to another message from this list, using > > the Reply entry on the context menu of that message, whilst viewing > > this message. I get a compose window prepopulated with the quoted > > body of this message, which is clearly incorrect. > > As I said in the bug item: > > "Enter a folder without automatically opening a message. > Right-click any message and choose 'reply'." Right, but that's a different test case, not what I just tested. Hence, I said FWIW. I automatically display the next message when I enter a folder, so I'm never going to encounter your test case. > If a message is open, then your reply is going there. That's wrong behaviour IMHO. If I right click on a message then any action I choose from that pop-up menu should apply to the message I clicked on, not the displayed message. That's the purpose of context menus - to have CONTEXT! It appears there isn't a consensus as to what the desired behaviour should be, so it's not too surprising there's confusion about patches. > with regards > > Paul From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 18:16:47 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 16:16:47 -0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: <20180913170924.6a026b89@acer-suse.lan> References: <20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan> <20180913120302.08a138d7@localhost> <20180913170924.6a026b89@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: <20180913171647.51e43661@localhost> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 17:09:24 +0100 Dave Howorth wrote: > That's wrong behaviour IMHO. Yes, mine too. (see my last message on this thread) > It appears there isn't a consensus as to what the desired behaviour > should be, so it's not too surprising there's confusion about > patches. No confusion about patches - the original submitted patch broke 2 behaviours to fix one. with regards Paul From removed-gdpr at example.com Thu Sep 13 18:46:22 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 19:46:22 +0300 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> Message-ID: <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> After so many days - still an issue. Any feedback please? -- George From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 18:48:40 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 16:48:40 -0000 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> Message-ID: <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 19:46:22 +0300 Removed GDPR wrote: > After so many days - still an issue. > Any feedback please? Patience? with regards Paul From subscript at free.fr Thu Sep 13 19:10:31 2018 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 19:10:31 +0200 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> Message-ID: <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> Hello, On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 16:48:40 -0000 Paul wrote: > On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 19:46:22 +0300 > Removed GDPR wrote: > > > After so many days - still an issue. > > Any feedback please? > > Patience? Also maybe.. money! To host it somewhere else, faster, and to afford spending time on it? Money is time and vice-versa (in this world). Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From removed-gdpr at example.com Thu Sep 13 22:22:35 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 23:22:35 +0300 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> Message-ID: <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 16:48:40 -0000 Paul wrote: > Patience? My first message is from 31.Aug (1 week after I noticed the issue). This makes it 3 weeks total. I think it would be unfair of you to say that I have been impatient :) On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 19:10:31 +0200 wwp wrote: > Also maybe.. money! To host it somewhere else, > faster, and to afford spending time on it? Money is > time and vice-versa (in this world). Cloning from a US host gives me 3.5Mb/s - the speed which I could get from EU 2-3 weeks ago. It seems to me a routing issue. A financial one (e.g. a slower hosting plan) would result in slowness from everywhere all the time. -- George From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 22:25:42 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 20:25:42 -0000 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> Message-ID: <20180913212542.7972f91a@localhost> > > My first message is from 31.Aug (1 week after I > noticed the issue). This makes it 3 weeks total. I > think it would be unfair of you to say that I have > been impatient :) > I meant patience whilst downloading. with regards Paul From colin at colino.net Thu Sep 13 22:28:48 2018 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy-Mira) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 22:28:48 +0200 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> Message-ID: <20180913222848.07c0d2b3@mike> On 13 September 2018 at 23h22, Removed GDPR wrote: Hi, > > Also maybe.. money! To host it somewhere else, > > faster, and to afford spending time on it? Money is > > time and vice-versa (in this world). > > Cloning from a US host gives me 3.5Mb/s - the speed > which I could get from EU 2-3 weeks ago. It seems to > me a routing issue. A financial one (e.g. a slower > hosting plan) would result in slowness from everywhere > all the time. I'm sorry, we don't have any weight over our hosting provider's peerings... -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 22:41:28 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 20:41:28 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889 --- Comment #12 from Colin Leroy --- Hi! Apparently that patch would break replying to selected part of the displayed body. The problem, I think, is that the menubar "Reply" and the main menu's Reply items use the displayed message, and the summaryview's contextual menu "Reply" uses the same callback as the main menu. For the two first cases, I'd say that's logical. For the last one, it's not. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 22:42:50 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 20:42:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889 --- Comment #13 from Colin Leroy --- We could change the behaviour so that all "Reply" from mainwindow (bar and menu) would reply to the selected message instead of the opened one if the selected one is different from the opened one ? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 23:12:27 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 21:12:27 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889 --- Comment #14 from Colin Leroy --- Created attachment 1914 --> https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1914&action=edit Another proposed fix May I suggest that patch? - Using the toolbar buttons, no change - Using the menus (main and summary): - If the message opened in the messageview is part of the summaryview selection, no change. - Else, skip using the messageview information altogether. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Sep 14 10:22:08 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 11:22:08 +0300 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180913222848.07c0d2b3@mike> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180913222848.07c0d2b3@mike> Message-ID: <20180914112208.4e942424@localhost> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 22:28:48 +0200 Colin Leroy-Mira wrote: > I'm sorry, we don't have any weight over our hosting > provider's peerings... Have you at least notified them about the issue? I don't expect it will get self fixed as it hasn't so far. -- George From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 14 14:36:30 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 12:36:30 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889 --- Comment #15 from Michal Suchánek --- (In reply to comment #14) > Created attachment 1914 [details] > Another proposed fix > > May I suggest that patch? > > - Using the toolbar buttons, no change > - Using the menus (main and summary): > - If the message opened in the messageview is part of the summaryview > selection, no change. > - Else, skip using the messageview information altogether. This is broken. The messageview is the most prominent target for reply. So when you click reply any place other than a popup from summaryview it should reply to the message from messageview. The selection in the summaryview may not even be visible when you trigger reply anywhere else. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 14 14:55:42 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 12:55:42 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889 --- Comment #16 from Colin Leroy --- That's true. I'll see if I can put in the extra work to make it work. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 14 15:08:55 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:08:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889 --- Comment #17 from Michal Suchánek --- Also your patch does not remove the part that merges addressees from different messages so it will probably not fix the issue. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From pf at pfortin.com Fri Sep 14 19:07:29 2018 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:07:29 -0400 Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages Message-ID: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com> Hi, Having a weird problem... I run 2 instances of CM, one on my primary Linux account and another via "su - userid2". On the main instance, incoming messages are checked and all seems fine. On the 2nd instance, when mail arrives, I'm seeing long delays where CM is totally unresponsive. Testing: Instance2 offline. Sent test message from instance1. "Get" produced: Network log: [12:39:26] POP> LIST [12:39:26] POP< +OK Mailbox scan listing follows [12:39:26] POP> RETR 226 [12:39:26] POP< +OK 2836 octets [12:39:26] POP> QUIT [12:39:26] POP< +OK Sayonara Filtering log: [12:39:27] processing rule 'Listings' [ from matchcase "@pfortin.com" & to matchcase "pierre at pfortin.com" move "#mh/Mailbox/inbox/ListingsToSelf" ] [12:39:27] checking if message matches [ from matchcase "@pfortin.com" ] [12:39:27] checking if message matches [ to matchcase "pierre at pfortin.com" ] > message matches [12:39:27] applying action [ move "#mh/Mailbox/inbox/ListingsToSelf" ] CM hung until 12:40:28 (~60 seconds). This delay appears to be multiplied by the number of messages arriving. I'd been thinking this was due to SA plugin; but unchecking "Enable SpamAssassin plugin", or unloading SA altogether has no effect on the problem. CM still hangs for 60 seconds per message. Any suggestions on where to look for, or what might cause these delays? Thanks, Pierre From subscript at free.fr Fri Sep 14 19:23:19 2018 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 19:23:19 +0200 Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages In-Reply-To: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com> References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20180914192319.4bd12497@ladybug> Hello Pierre, On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:07:29 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote: > Hi, > > Having a weird problem... I run 2 instances of CM, one on my primary > Linux account and another via "su - userid2". On the main instance, > incoming messages are checked and all seems fine. On the 2nd instance, > when mail arrives, I'm seeing long delays where CM is totally > unresponsive. > > Testing: Instance2 offline. Sent test message from instance1. > "Get" produced: > > Network log: > [12:39:26] POP> LIST > [12:39:26] POP< +OK Mailbox scan listing follows > [12:39:26] POP> RETR 226 > [12:39:26] POP< +OK 2836 octets > [12:39:26] POP> QUIT > [12:39:26] POP< +OK Sayonara > > Filtering log: > [12:39:27] processing rule 'Listings' [ from matchcase "@pfortin.com" & > to matchcase "pierre at pfortin.com" move "#mh/Mailbox/inbox/ListingsToSelf" > ] [12:39:27] checking if message matches [ from matchcase "@pfortin.com" > ] [12:39:27] checking if message matches [ to matchcase > "pierre at pfortin.com" ] > > message matches > [12:39:27] applying action [ move "#mh/Mailbox/inbox/ListingsToSelf" ] > > CM hung until 12:40:28 (~60 seconds). This delay appears to be > multiplied by the number of messages arriving. > > I'd been thinking this was due to SA plugin; but unchecking "Enable > SpamAssassin plugin", or unloading SA altogether has no effect on the > problem. > > CM still hangs for 60 seconds per message. > > Any suggestions on where to look for, or what might cause these delays? Do you run any other plugin that computes things remotely? Better disable them all for your tests, anyway. Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From rol at witbe.net Fri Sep 14 19:26:14 2018 From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=)) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 19:26:14 +0200 Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages In-Reply-To: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com> References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20180914192614.09172b9b@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Hello, On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:07:29 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote: > Having a weird problem... I run 2 instances of CM, one on my primary > Linux account and another via "su - userid2". On the main instance, > incoming messages are checked and all seems fine. On the 2nd instance, > when mail arrives, I'm seeing long delays where CM is totally > unresponsive. What happens if you stop instance1 and only run instance2 ? Still delays or no more delays ? Paul -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From myetto at gmail.com Fri Sep 14 19:33:28 2018 From: myetto at gmail.com (Michael A. Yetto) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:33:28 -0400 Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages In-Reply-To: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com> References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20180914133328.28605d5d@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:07:29 -0400 Pierre Fortin writes, and having writ moves on: >I'd been thinking this was due to SA plugin; but unchecking "Enable >SpamAssassin plugin", or unloading SA altogether has no effect on the >problem. > >CM still hangs for 60 seconds per message. > >Any suggestions on where to look for, or what might cause these delays? I had to give up on Dillo and stick to Fancy because opening the HTML portion of an email took at least a minute each time. Even switching to text and back to the HTML portion caused the same long delay with each message. I'm running version 3.17.1 on Kubuntu 18.04.01. Mike Yetto -- "A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory." - Leonard Nimoy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 488 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From pf at pfortin.com Fri Sep 14 19:56:45 2018 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:56:45 -0400 Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages In-Reply-To: <20180914192319.4bd12497@ladybug> References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com> <20180914192319.4bd12497@ladybug> Message-ID: <20180914135645.30588b51@pfortin.com> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 19:23:19 +0200 wwp wrote: >Do you run any other plugin that computes things remotely? Better >disable them all for your tests, anyway. Plugins loaded: Address Keeper Attach Warner AttRemover Fancy HTML Viewer NewMail Notification PDF Viewer Python None of these should be invoked on a simple one-line text-only message. The main instance never has these delays. Tried a different setup... instead of "su", I "ssh" to userid2 and the same problem occurs. Dunno if it's related; but instance1 (the one I'm using now) ignores a few typed characters when checking for new mail... Unloaded all the plugins by just clicking Unload 8 times, nothing else. When I got to the last one, CM crashed: [1]+ Segmentation fault (core dumped) cm Where is the core dumped to? The crash saved clawsrc with no changes, so restarting CM, all these plugins are still loaded. A quick test shows that unloading Python is the cause of the crash. I've started a bug report; but if you can reproduce, it'll save me more debugging. Though, what else to do while hurricane Florence howls around me... :) Will continue testing the delay issue... Pierre From pf at pfortin.com Fri Sep 14 20:01:46 2018 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 14:01:46 -0400 Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages In-Reply-To: <20180914192614.09172b9b@riri.DEF.witbe.net> References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com> <20180914192614.09172b9b@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Message-ID: <20180914140146.60d21bbf@pfortin.com> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 19:26:14 +0200 Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) wrote: >Hello, > >On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:07:29 -0400 >Pierre Fortin wrote: > >> Having a weird problem... I run 2 instances of CM, one on my primary >> Linux account and another via "su - userid2". On the main instance, >> incoming messages are checked and all seems fine. On the 2nd instance, >> when mail arrives, I'm seeing long delays where CM is totally >> unresponsive. > >What happens if you stop instance1 and only run instance2 ? Still delays or >no more delays ? > >Paul I've been seeing this problem for several months now -- too busy to follow up; but have some time while hurricane Florence howls outside... as long as I don't lose power... The only possible connection between the 2 instances would be sharing the spamd resources; but disabling SA didn't help. spamd logs and wireshark traces of port 783 show no problems. Pierre From sylpheed at 911networks.com Fri Sep 14 20:07:04 2018 From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 11:07:04 -0700 Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages In-Reply-To: <20180914133328.28605d5d@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com> <20180914133328.28605d5d@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> Message-ID: <20180914110704.3d094b1b@frogguski.911networks.com> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:33:28 -0400 "Michael A. Yetto" wrote: > >I had to give up on Dillo and stick to Fancy because opening the HTML >portion of an email took at least a minute each time. Even switching >to text and back to the HTML portion caused the same long delay with >each message. > >I'm running version 3.17.1 on Kubuntu 18.04.01. I'm exactly the opposite. I use Dillo for the HTML because I'm on Manjaro and the Archlinux maintainers of CM have removed Fancy from the CM and only provide Dillo. I could compile it myself, but it's so much simpler for me to let do all the work/compile/dependencies... BTW, I have no slow down with Dillo, but my default is "Render HTML as text", then I switch to html when I need. -- sknahT vyS From subscript at free.fr Fri Sep 14 20:14:38 2018 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 20:14:38 +0200 Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages In-Reply-To: <20180914140146.60d21bbf@pfortin.com> References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com> <20180914192614.09172b9b@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180914140146.60d21bbf@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20180914201438.5d1c3ee5@ladybug> Hello Pierre, On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 14:01:46 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 19:26:14 +0200 Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) wrote: > > >Hello, > > > >On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:07:29 -0400 > >Pierre Fortin wrote: > > > >> Having a weird problem... I run 2 instances of CM, one on my primary > >> Linux account and another via "su - userid2". On the main instance, > >> incoming messages are checked and all seems fine. On the 2nd instance, > >> when mail arrives, I'm seeing long delays where CM is totally > >> unresponsive. > > > >What happens if you stop instance1 and only run instance2 ? Still delays or > >no more delays ? > > > >Paul > > I've been seeing this problem for several months now -- too busy to follow > up; but have some time while hurricane Florence howls outside... as long > as I don't lose power... > > The only possible connection between the 2 instances would be sharing the > spamd resources; but disabling SA didn't help. spamd logs and wireshark > traces of port 783 show no problems. Am I wrong or you did not reply to Paul's question? Did you try running instance2 *without* any instance1? Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From subscript at free.fr Fri Sep 14 20:17:32 2018 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 20:17:32 +0200 Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages In-Reply-To: <20180914135645.30588b51@pfortin.com> References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com> <20180914192319.4bd12497@ladybug> <20180914135645.30588b51@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20180914201732.4403f681@ladybug> Hello Pierre, On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:56:45 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 19:23:19 +0200 wwp wrote: > > >Do you run any other plugin that computes things remotely? Better > >disable them all for your tests, anyway. > > Plugins loaded: > > Address Keeper > Attach Warner > AttRemover > Fancy HTML Viewer > NewMail > Notification > PDF Viewer > Python > > None of these should be invoked on a simple one-line text-only message. Yes, but what does it cost to try anyway? Trying to isolate a behaviour, if you have no clue about the cause, remove as possible sources as possible, if not reproducing anymore, add again one possible cause by one possible cause, yes it could take forever ;-). > The main instance never has these delays. > > Tried a different setup... instead of "su", I "ssh" to userid2 and the > same problem occurs. > > Dunno if it's related; but instance1 (the one I'm using now) ignores a few > typed characters when checking for new mail... I get a UI more or less responsive when CM is fetching mail or rss items, I always had, sometimes it's quite impossible to keep typing in a compose window while there is network activity or updating a folder view (I've just got it right now after email incorporation while I was typing). I don't think this is 'abnormal' even if itchy-scratchy. > Unloaded all the plugins by just clicking Unload 8 times, nothing else. > When I got to the last one, CM crashed: > [1]+ Segmentation fault (core dumped) cm > > Where is the core dumped to? [snip] If core there is, $HOME (should be). But I recommend trying to reproduce it with CM running from gdb. Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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[3]+ Segmentation fault (core dumped) cm Segmentation fault (core dumped) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 14 20:53:46 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 18:53:46 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4088] New: spurious message when starting Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4088 Bug ID: 4088 Summary: spurious message when starting Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Other Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: pf at pfortin.com Start CM Konsole outputs: [Users]HowcanIimportGooglecalendarsClawsMail?selecting folder '#mh/Mailbox/Linux/claws-mail' which seems like an old thread. Change folder. Close CM Start again Konsole outputs: [Users]HowcanIimportGooglecalendarsClawsMail?selecting folder '#mh/Mailbox/Linux/claws-mail/Bugs' Looks like some trash in a buffer... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 14 21:09:21 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 19:09:21 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4088] spurious message when starting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4088 --- Comment #1 from Pierre Fortin --- When starting CM, I sometimes also see: open(): No such file or directory [ Users]HowcanIimportGooglecalendarsClawsMail?selecting folder '#mh/Mailbox/Linux/claws-mail/Bugs' -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From pf at pfortin.com Fri Sep 14 21:52:57 2018 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 15:52:57 -0400 Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages In-Reply-To: <20180914192614.09172b9b@riri.DEF.witbe.net> References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com> <20180914192614.09172b9b@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Message-ID: <20180914155257.6cd05264@pfortin.com> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 19:26:14 +0200 Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) wrote: >What happens if you stop instance1 and only run instance2 ? Still delays or >no more delays ? Just did lots of testing. Based on this question, I reversed the startup order of the 2 instances and now I can't reproduce the delays; even after returning to my normal startup sequence... Twilight Zone... From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Sep 14 22:58:47 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 23:58:47 +0300 Subject: [Users] Dealing with slow IMAP servers Message-ID: <20180914235847.15c2a99d@localhost> Hi, Some IMAP servers are very slow (e.g. Yahoo). It takes many minutes to sync a folder which is 2-4Gb after which it is somewhat bearable (but still slow) but if one moves to another computer, one needs to repeat the whole slow process of syncing. I wonder: is there a way to tell Claws Mail not to sync everything? For example: Android's mail client can be told to load only the latest N messages. Is that possible in CM? Or anything else suitable for slow servers? -- George From ticho at claws-mail.org Fri Sep 14 23:04:22 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 23:04:22 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.17.1-1 for Windows unleashed Message-ID: <20180914230422.12d40fd4@penny> 14th September 2018 Claws Mail 3.17.1-1 CLAWS MAIL FOR WINDOWS RELEASE NOTES http://www.claws-mail.org/win32 Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast email client. See http://www.claws-mail.org/news.php for full information regarding changes since the previous release. 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Yetto) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 11:19:23 -0400 Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages In-Reply-To: <20180914110704.3d094b1b@frogguski.911networks.com> References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com> <20180914133328.28605d5d@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> <20180914110704.3d094b1b@frogguski.911networks.com> Message-ID: <20180915111923.4af976b5@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 11:07:04 -0700 sylpheed at 911networks.com writes, and having writ moves on: >On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:33:28 -0400 >"Michael A. Yetto" wrote: > >> >>I had to give up on Dillo and stick to Fancy because opening the HTML >>portion of an email took at least a minute each time. Even switching >>to text and back to the HTML portion caused the same long delay with >>each message. >> >>I'm running version 3.17.1 on Kubuntu 18.04.01. > >I'm exactly the opposite. I use Dillo for the HTML because I'm on >Manjaro and the Archlinux maintainers of CM have removed Fancy from >the CM and only provide Dillo. > >I could compile it myself, but it's so much simpler for me to let do >all the work/compile/dependencies... > >BTW, I have no slow down with Dillo, but my default is "Render HTML >as text", then I switch to html when I need. > Opening the HTML part with Dillo, either auto, manual, or reopening causes a slow down to the point of stopping *everything else* for at least a minute. No Dillo for me. Mike Yetto -- "New knowledge is the most valuable commodity on earth. The more truth we have to work with, the richer we become." - Kurt Vonnegut -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Here's my configuration: Claws version 3.17.0git25 Plugins: Dillo, GData, PGP System Information GTK+ 2.24.32 / GLib 2.54.3 Locale: C (charset: US-ASCII) Operating System: Linux 4.12.14-lp150.12.16-default (x86_64) 6-core AMD CPU 3.5GHz, 16GB memory, Radeon RX 560 Graphics Best, Lyle -- On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 11:19:23 -0400 "Michael A. Yetto" wrote: > On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 11:07:04 -0700 > sylpheed at 911networks.com writes, and having writ moves on: > > >On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:33:28 -0400 > >"Michael A. Yetto" wrote: > > > >> > >>I had to give up on Dillo and stick to Fancy because opening the > >>HTML portion of an email took at least a minute each time. Even > >>switching to text and back to the HTML portion caused the same long > >>delay with each message. > >> > >>I'm running version 3.17.1 on Kubuntu 18.04.01. > > > >I'm exactly the opposite. I use Dillo for the HTML because I'm on > >Manjaro and the Archlinux maintainers of CM have removed Fancy from > >the CM and only provide Dillo. > > > >I could compile it myself, but it's so much simpler for me to let do > >all the work/compile/dependencies... > > > >BTW, I have no slow down with Dillo, but my default is "Render HTML > >as text", then I switch to html when I need. > > > > Opening the HTML part with Dillo, either auto, manual, or reopening > causes a slow down to the point of stopping *everything else* for at > least a minute. No Dillo for me. > > Mike Yetto -- 73 NM6Y Bickley Consulting West Inc. http://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero" From pf at pfortin.com Sat Sep 15 17:43:49 2018 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 11:43:49 -0400 Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages In-Reply-To: <20180914133328.28605d5d@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com> <20180914133328.28605d5d@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> Message-ID: <20180915114349.1455dc53@pfortin.com> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:33:28 -0400 Michael A. Yetto wrote: >On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:07:29 -0400 >Pierre Fortin writes, and having writ moves on: > >>I'd been thinking this was due to SA plugin; but unchecking "Enable >>SpamAssassin plugin", or unloading SA altogether has no effect on the >>problem. >> >>CM still hangs for 60 seconds per message. >> >>Any suggestions on where to look for, or what might cause these delays? > >I had to give up on Dillo and stick to Fancy because opening the HTML >portion of an email took at least a minute each time. Even switching >to text and back to the HTML portion caused the same long delay with >each message. > >I'm running version 3.17.1 on Kubuntu 18.04.01. > >Mike Yetto This thread was NOT about Dillo or Fancy. Please don't hijack threads... From dave at howorth.org.uk Sat Sep 15 18:20:42 2018 From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 17:20:42 +0100 Subject: [Users] news reader Message-ID: <20180915172042.73e4decc@acer-suse.lan> I believe it is possible to use claws as a news reader (i.e. NNTP, not RSS). But I haven't found any documentation that explains how to do it and I haven't had any success by experimenting. Claws 3.16.0 - I've managed to create a mailbox called 'News (MH)' and I created a news account that also created a mailbox called 'News (News)' and I loaded RSSyl, based on an old answer I found from Michael Rasmussen and that created 'My Feeds (RSSyl)'. But I can't find any way to populate any of those maiboxes with any content. (Well, I expect I could populate the RSSyl one, but it's not RSS content that I want!). What am I missing? From removed-gdpr at example.com Sat Sep 15 18:30:32 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 19:30:32 +0300 Subject: [Users] news reader In-Reply-To: <20180915172042.73e4decc@acer-suse.lan> References: <20180915172042.73e4decc@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: <20180915193032.4790d82e@localhost> Right click on the NNTP account folder (your "News (News)" and then "Subscribe to newsgroup..." should give you the available newsgroups. After picking one it will show up as a sub-folder with the messages in it. -- George From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 15 18:44:31 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 16:44:31 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4089] New: when running via su|ssh, CM stalls for 60 seconds on each received message Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4089 Bug ID: 4089 Summary: when running via su|ssh, CM stalls for 60 seconds on each received message Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Other Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: pf at pfortin.com Created attachment 1916 --> https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1916&action=edit debug output I run 2 instances of CM (only POP3), one on my primary Linux account and another via "su - userid2" (or "ssh userid2 at localhost"). On the main instance, incoming messages are checked and all seems fine. On the 2nd instance, when mail arrives, I'm seeing long delays where CM is totally unresponsive. Ran with --debug which confirms 60 second delay -- see comments in debug output. For this test, I started CM and waited until it began polling on its own. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From pf at pfortin.com Sat Sep 15 18:45:13 2018 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 12:45:13 -0400 Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages In-Reply-To: <20180914155257.6cd05264@pfortin.com> References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com> <20180914192614.09172b9b@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180914155257.6cd05264@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20180915124513.23985096@pfortin.com> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 15:52:57 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote: >On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 19:26:14 +0200 Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) wrote: > >>What happens if you stop instance1 and only run instance2 ? Still delays or >>no more delays ? > >Just did lots of testing. Based on this question, I reversed the startup >order of the 2 instances and now I can't reproduce the delays; even after >returning to my normal startup sequence... > >Twilight Zone... Surprise, the problem is back... got more info and filed bug 4089 From nick_koretsky at ukr.net Sat Sep 15 19:09:00 2018 From: nick_koretsky at ukr.net (Nick Koretsky) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 20:09:00 +0300 Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages In-Reply-To: <20180915124513.23985096@pfortin.com> References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com> <20180914192614.09172b9b@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180914155257.6cd05264@pfortin.com> <20180915124513.23985096@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20180915200900.08df2cec@nikita> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 12:45:13 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 15:52:57 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote: > > >On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 19:26:14 +0200 Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) wrote: > > > >>What happens if you stop instance1 and only run instance2 ? Still > >>delays or no more delays ? > > > >Just did lots of testing. Based on this question, I reversed the startup > >order of the 2 instances and now I can't reproduce the delays; even after > >returning to my normal startup sequence... > > > >Twilight Zone... > > Surprise, the problem is back... got more info and filed bug 4089 Looked at you debug output, try to disable notify plugin. You do not have desktop running as that user, it fails to connect but there maybe a timeout here... -- Nick Koretsky (nick.koretsky at gmail.com) From brad at fineby.me.uk Sat Sep 15 19:22:39 2018 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 18:22:39 +0100 Subject: [Users] news reader In-Reply-To: <20180915172042.73e4decc@acer-suse.lan> References: <20180915172042.73e4decc@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: <20180915182239.682c97fa@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 17:20:42 +0100 Dave Howorth wrote: Hello Dave, >Claws 3.16.0 - I've managed to create a mailbox called 'News (MH)' and >I created a news account that also created a mailbox called 'News >(News)' and I loaded RSSyl, based on an old answer I found from Michael >Rasmussen and that created 'My Feeds (RSSyl)'. The only one you need to receive news is an Account with a Protocol of type NNTP. Select the relevant protocol, populate the newsserver box with the name of your desired server, and enter username and password. Go to your newly created account, right click and select Subscribe to newsgroup. You'll get a list of groups. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" I guess I shouldn't have strangled her to death Ugly - The Stranglers -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Based on this question, I reversed the startup >> >order of the 2 instances and now I can't reproduce the delays; even after >> >returning to my normal startup sequence... >> > >> >Twilight Zone... >> >> Surprise, the problem is back... got more info and filed bug 4089 > > >Looked at you debug output, try to disable notify plugin. You do not have >desktop running as that user, it fails to connect but there maybe a timeout >here... This problem started 2-4 months ago IIRC. I've been running CM since at least 2002 (Sylpheed version 0.6.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu)) and 2 instances all along. This issue is relatively recent -- been very busy since mid-June so haven't had time to debug/report it. Hurricane Florence is giving me time to work on this and other issues... :) This instance of CM reports: (cm:1204): libnotify-WARNING **: Failed to connect to proxy quite often; but I can't be specific because my timestamp enhancement request is still outstanding (bug 3353). Aside: My primary instance of CM randomly reports: ** (cm:28672): WARNING **: addressbook folder not configured but the address books are fine... Besides, Notification plugin works just fine otherwise -- displaying proper status at all times for both instances. From dave at howorth.org.uk Sat Sep 15 20:45:56 2018 From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 19:45:56 +0100 Subject: [Users] news reader In-Reply-To: <20180915193032.4790d82e@localhost> References: <20180915172042.73e4decc@acer-suse.lan> <20180915193032.4790d82e@localhost> Message-ID: <20180915194556.6a17e938@acer-suse.lan> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 19:30:32 +0300 Removed GDPR wrote: > Right click on the NNTP account folder (your "News > (News)" and then "Subscribe to newsgroup..." should > give you the available newsgroups. After picking one it > will show up as a sub-folder with the messages in it. Thanks. I did that; it says: "Can't retrieve newsgroup list." > -- > George From lfiskgr at gmail.com Sat Sep 15 21:13:02 2018 From: lfiskgr at gmail.com (Leon Fisk) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 15:13:02 -0400 Subject: [Users] news reader In-Reply-To: <20180915194556.6a17e938@acer-suse.lan> References: <20180915172042.73e4decc@acer-suse.lan> <20180915193032.4790d82e@localhost> <20180915194556.6a17e938@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: <5b9d59c5.1c69fb81.bac87.5bc3@mx.google.com> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 19:45:56 +0100 Dave Howorth wrote: >Thanks. I did that; it says: > >"Can't retrieve newsgroup list." Do you have an NNTP account set up similar to the attached screen shot? -- Leon Claws 3.16.0, Ubuntu Lucid -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Select the relevant protocol, populate the newsserver box > with the name of your desired server, and enter username and password. news server. username and password? I thought newsgroups were public? > Go to your newly created account, right click and select Subscribe to > newsgroup. You'll get a list of groups. I don't :( I get "Can't retrieve newsgroup list." From lfiskgr at gmail.com Sat Sep 15 21:43:05 2018 From: lfiskgr at gmail.com (Leon Fisk) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 15:43:05 -0400 Subject: [Users] news reader In-Reply-To: <20180915203240.4be5140f@acer-suse.lan> References: <20180915172042.73e4decc@acer-suse.lan> <20180915182239.682c97fa@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20180915203240.4be5140f@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: <5b9d60ce.1c69fb81.4478a.768c@mx.google.com> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 20:32:40 +0100 Dave Howorth wrote: >> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 17:20:42 +0100 >> Dave Howorth wrote: >> >> Hello Dave, >> > [...] >> >> The only one you need to receive news is an Account with a Protocol of >> type NNTP. Select the relevant protocol, populate the newsserver box >> with the name of your desired server, and enter username and password. > >news server. username and password? I thought newsgroups were public? > >> Go to your newly created account, right click and select Subscribe to >> newsgroup. You'll get a list of groups. > >I don't :( I get "Can't retrieve newsgroup list." Yeah, sorta public but you need a provider to link with. In the old days most ISP's provided Usenet with their service. Not so much anymore. My ISP dropped Usenet several years ago. There are a few free providers but you still need to sign up with them. As you can see in the screen shot in my other post/answer I'm using Eternal September. You can sign up with them if you wish here: http://www.eternal-september.org/ You won't get anywhere until you have a provider/account set up :) -- Leon Claws 3.16.0, Ubuntu Lucid From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 15 23:17:29 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 21:17:29 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3747] Crash when exiting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3747 m at freenote.de changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Version|3.14.1 |3.17.1 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 15 23:20:20 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 21:20:20 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3747] Libcairo-2.dll 64-bit crashes often In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3747 m at freenote.de changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|Crash when exiting |Libcairo-2.dll 64-bit | |crashes often -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 15 23:24:04 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 21:24:04 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3791] Fancy plugin may hang on 0% In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3791 m at freenote.de changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|Marking RSS item as read |Fancy plugin may hang on 0% |causes hang | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From dave at howorth.org.uk Sun Sep 16 00:05:06 2018 From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 23:05:06 +0100 Subject: [Users] [SOLVED] Re: news reader In-Reply-To: <5b9d60ce.1c69fb81.4478a.768c@mx.google.com> References: <20180915172042.73e4decc@acer-suse.lan> <20180915182239.682c97fa@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20180915203240.4be5140f@acer-suse.lan> <5b9d60ce.1c69fb81.4478a.768c@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <20180915230506.653d156b@acer-suse.lan> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 15:43:05 -0400 Leon Fisk wrote: > On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 20:32:40 +0100 > Dave Howorth wrote: > > >> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 17:20:42 +0100 > >> Dave Howorth wrote: > >> > >> Hello Dave, > >> > > [...] > >> > >> The only one you need to receive news is an Account with a > >> Protocol of type NNTP. Select the relevant protocol, populate the > >> newsserver box with the name of your desired server, and enter > >> username and password. > > > >news server. username and password? I thought newsgroups were public? > > > >> Go to your newly created account, right click and select Subscribe > >> to newsgroup. You'll get a list of groups. > > > >I don't :( I get "Can't retrieve newsgroup list." > > Yeah, sorta public but you need a provider to link with. In the old > days most ISP's provided Usenet with their service. Not so much > anymore. My ISP dropped Usenet several years ago. There are a few free > providers but you still need to sign up with them. As you can see in > the screen shot in my other post/answer I'm using Eternal September. > You can sign up with them if you wish here: > > http://www.eternal-september.org/ > > You won't get anywhere until you have a provider/account set up :) Thanks Leon. I understand what you're saying but its not applicable for what I want. What did help was the screenshot in your other mail, showing the syntax required for the server. From myetto at gmail.com Sun Sep 16 00:13:51 2018 From: myetto at gmail.com (Michael A. Yetto) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 18:13:51 -0400 Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages In-Reply-To: <20180915114349.1455dc53@pfortin.com> References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com> <20180914133328.28605d5d@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> <20180915114349.1455dc53@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20180915181351.5db63df4@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 11:43:49 -0400 Pierre Fortin writes, and having writ moves on: >This thread was NOT about Dillo or Fancy. Please don't hijack >threads... The tread was about slow opening of emails, just as I noticed. No other possibility was offered when I added the information oabout Dillo on my system. No thread was hijacked even if the originator of the thread doesn't like a turn taken before the direction was firmly established. Mike Yetto -- "Where fifty years before, a congressman's standard move to get reelected was to talk about the programs he had voted for, nowadays it was to talk about what he had blocked, stopped, frustrated, investigated, or marginalized." - Encounter with Tiber (Buzz Aldrin & John Barnes) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 488 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From pf at pfortin.com Sun Sep 16 00:39:05 2018 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 18:39:05 -0400 Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages In-Reply-To: <20180915181351.5db63df4@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com> <20180914133328.28605d5d@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> <20180915114349.1455dc53@pfortin.com> <20180915181351.5db63df4@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> Message-ID: <20180915183905.670846e1@pfortin.com> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 18:13:51 -0400 Michael A. Yetto wrote: >On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 11:43:49 -0400 >Pierre Fortin writes, and having writ moves on: > >>This thread was NOT about Dillo or Fancy. Please don't hijack >>threads... > >The tread was about slow opening of emails, just as I noticed. No other >possibility was offered when I added the information oabout Dillo on my >system. No thread was hijacked even if the originator of the thread >doesn't like a turn taken before the direction was firmly established. > >Mike Yetto Respectfully, the subject still says "60 second **hangs**", implying nothing is possible until a 60 second timer triggers. There was nothing therein "about slow opening". Pierre From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 16 04:47:07 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 02:47:07 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4089] when running via su|ssh, CM stalls for 60 seconds on each received message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4089 --- Comment #1 from Pierre Fortin --- Created attachment 1917 --> https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1917&action=edit --debug output of test message processing Patched CM instance 2 to add timestamps (except plugins). This output shows 2 test messages arriving in different polls. The first was sent by mailx and the 2nd from CM instance 1. Message from: mailx: no delay in processing CM: 60 second hang The full contents of these 2 messages are included at the end of this file. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From brad at fineby.me.uk Sun Sep 16 07:58:34 2018 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 06:58:34 +0100 Subject: [Users] news reader In-Reply-To: <20180915203240.4be5140f@acer-suse.lan> References: <20180915172042.73e4decc@acer-suse.lan> <20180915182239.682c97fa@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20180915203240.4be5140f@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: <20180916065834.358e8705@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 20:32:40 +0100 Dave Howorth wrote: Hello Dave, >news server. username and password? I thought newsgroups were public? As you've read from others; Some are, some aren't. Even then, many now still require that you authenticate. Even if it's only because they want to monetise the service, somehow. As an aside, back when anonymous ftp was common, when logging in as 'anonymous', anything put in the password field would work (including nothing), but the convention was to use your email address. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Tell the dinosaurs they just won't survive The History Of The World (Part 1) - The Damned -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 16 11:40:51 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 09:40:51 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4089] when running via su|ssh, CM stalls for 60 seconds on each received message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4089 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1917|application/octet-stream |text/plain mime type| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 16 11:45:54 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 09:45:54 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4089] when running via su|ssh, CM stalls for 60 seconds on each received message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4089 --- Comment #2 from Paul --- as was already suggested on the mailing list, disable the notification plugin as it is libnotify that appears to be causing the delay. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From myetto at gmail.com Sun Sep 16 15:42:58 2018 From: myetto at gmail.com (Michael A. Yetto) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 09:42:58 -0400 Subject: [Users] 60 second hangs on incoming messages In-Reply-To: <20180915183905.670846e1@pfortin.com> References: <20180914130729.6c203b30@pfortin.com> <20180914133328.28605d5d@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> <20180915114349.1455dc53@pfortin.com> <20180915181351.5db63df4@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> <20180915183905.670846e1@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20180916094258.67dcfadb@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 18:39:05 -0400 Pierre Fortin writes, and having writ moves on: >On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 18:13:51 -0400 Michael A. Yetto wrote: > >>On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 11:43:49 -0400 >>Pierre Fortin writes, and having writ moves on: >> >>>This thread was NOT about Dillo or Fancy. Please don't hijack >>>threads... >> >>The tread was about slow opening of emails, just as I noticed. No >>other possibility was offered when I added the information oabout >>Dillo on my system. No thread was hijacked even if the originator of >>the thread doesn't like a turn taken before the direction was firmly >>established. >> >>Mike Yetto > >Respectfully, the subject still says "60 second **hangs**", implying >nothing is possible until a 60 second timer triggers. There was >nothing therein "about slow opening". > My reply was not off-topic just because I did not use the exact same phrasing as you did. Nor was it off-topic because my guess as to the cause was Dillo and its plugin rather than SpamAssasin and its plugin. Nor was it off-topic because the delay in opening emails or doing anything else was not an exact 60 seconds, but "at least a minute each time." My responses were no more off-topic than yours. Get over yourself and end of conversation. Mike Yetto -- "Science is the difference between wanting a reason to believe and having a belief in reason." - @SarcasticRover -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 488 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 17 13:24:48 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 11:24:48 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4039] 3.13.2 kills 3.16.0-1 (?) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4039 --- Comment #5 from zctemhei at vomoto.com --- Hi Andrej, thank you for your kind advice! Two things I want to mention, in case somebody else has to go that route too: 1) I had to increase protocoll number from 0 to 3, to have IMAP instead of POP back again. 2) Could not find a file passwordrc, but one called passwordstorerc. Seemd to be the right one. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Mon Sep 17 15:32:49 2018 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 14:32:49 +0100 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.17.1-1 for Windows unleashed In-Reply-To: <20180914230422.12d40fd4@penny> References: <20180914230422.12d40fd4@penny> Message-ID: <20180917143249.00000a94@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 23:04:22 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > 14th September 2018 Claws Mail 3.17.1-1 > CLAWS MAIL FOR WINDOWS RELEASE NOTES > http://www.claws-mail.org/win32 > > Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast > email client. > > See http://www.claws-mail.org/news.php for full information > regarding changes since the previous release. > > Changes specific to the Windows release are: > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > * Some supporting libraries have been updated to more recent > versions: > o gnutls from 3.5.18 to 3.6.3 > o libexpat from 2.2.5 to 2.2.6 > o curl from 7.59.0 to 7.61.0 > o glib from 2.54.3 to 2.56.2 > o harfbuzz from 1.3.3 to 1.8.8 > o libpng from 1.6.29 to 1.6.34 > o libgpg-error from 1.27 to 1.29 > o libgcrypt from 1.8.2 to 1.8.3 > Thanks Andrej, now using the 32 bit version and will report any problems. No obvious problems so far. -- Brian From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 17 22:25:55 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 20:25:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4089] when running via su|ssh, CM stalls for 60 seconds on each received message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4089 --- Comment #3 from Pierre Fortin --- Created attachment 1918 --> https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1918&action=edit modified debug output Continued testing. Added various debug_print statements and discovered 60 second delay is really 35 seconds and 25 seconds. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 17 22:34:44 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 20:34:44 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4089] when running via su|ssh, CM stalls for 60 seconds on each received message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4089 Pierre Fortin changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1918|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #4 from Pierre Fortin --- Created attachment 1919 --> https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1919&action=edit debug output Correction: 80s = 25s + 25s + 10s -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 17 23:24:55 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 21:24:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4089] when running via su|ssh, CM stalls for 60 seconds on each received message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4089 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|Other |Plugins/Notification -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 00:04:45 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 22:04:45 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on feed refreshing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3971 --- Comment #21 from Removed after GDPR request --- Another feed for which deleted items reappear as unread: http://rss.frognews.bg/ -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 05:54:55 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 03:54:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4089] when running via su|ssh, CM stalls for 60 seconds on each received message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4089 --- Comment #5 from Pierre Fortin --- Found the 25+25+10 second delays; but I don't know how to fix these; yet... The first 25 second delay occurs in notification_trayicon.c:662 caps = notify_get_server_caps(); which is getting a GList and looking for "actions". Added notify_is_initted() test which returns TRUE just before that call. The second 25 second delay occurs in notification_trayicon.c:739 if(!notify_notification_show(popup.notification, &(popup.error))) { The 10 second delay occurs in notification_trayicon.c:743 g_object_unref(G_OBJECT(popup.notification)); -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 09:28:54 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 07:28:54 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on feed refreshing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3971 --- Comment #22 from Paul --- (In reply to comment #21) > Another feed for which deleted items reappear as unread: > > http://rss.frognews.bg/ No such problem with this feed for me. Which version of claws-mail are you using now? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 10:34:02 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 08:34:02 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on feed refreshing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3971 --- Comment #23 from Removed after GDPR request --- [~]: /opt/claws-mail/bin/claws-mail -V Claws Mail version 3.17.0-53-g102ceb runtime GTK+ 2.24.32 / GLib 2.54.3 buildtime GTK+ 2.24.32 / GLib 2.54.3 Compiled-in features: compface Enchant GnuTLS IPv6 iconv LDAP libetpan 1.8 libSM NetworkManager librSVG 2.42.3 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 11:46:53 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 09:46:53 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4087] Unloading Python crashes CM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4087 --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones --- Problem is not caused by the python plugin unload, but because you're running a 'shutdown' script. Removing or renaming 'shutdown' will workaround the problem. Regarding the crash itself maybe this can shed some light: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3654652/why-does-the-python-c-api-crash-on-pyrun-simplefile -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 11:50:59 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 09:50:59 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4088] spurious message when starting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4088 --- Comment #2 from Ricardo Mones --- You probably need to run "claws-mail --debug" or even "strace claws-mail --debug" to try locate where those are written. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From crlipton at gol.com Tue Sep 18 12:05:11 2018 From: crlipton at gol.com (Charles Lipton) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 19:05:11 +0900 Subject: [Users] Claws 3.17 and Dillo Message-ID: <20180918190511.3b6ca931@onk-01.LPTN_LAN01> I installed version 3.17 on Debian Stretch in an attempt to solve a problem with HTML rendering. Fancy was replaced by Dillo and a whole new set of problems has begun: 1. Dillo does not render CJK (Chinese-Japanese-Korean) fonts in mixed HTML documents such as ads or business offers. Installed font for Claws is a TrueType CJK font named IPAP Gothic, a standard Debian installed font. It works well with non-HTML mail. Is there a multilingual workaround, or is Dillo Latin text only? I work in several realms in which I have to read and comment on peer-reviewed articles and commentary. I need CJK capability in an HTML reader. When viewing just a text-only HTML document, the text typed in shows as white blocks, as in the attached example. As you can also see from that that screenshot, the subject titles show clearly, the text does not. In sales (advertorial) HTML pages, the typed comments between saved blocks of advertorial text (photos / logos / artistically arranged type) the contents of the saved blocks can be read, but the typed-in comments, headlines, etc. are white squares with black or colored borders. 2. Photos from local (e.g. from Asia and Australasian sources) load, while photos from most European and North American sources do not. Is there a way to force all photos to load? 3. With Fancy, page widths were always constrained so that content was always within borders and margins were even and straight. Dillo allows logos, texts, and images to stretch all the way across the Claws viewing area. Is there a way to constrain widths in mails in which margins were not set by the sender? 4. That baby-shit brown background ... is there a way to set it for a different color ... or, better yet, white? Thank you in advance for any advice and assistance. -- Charles Lipton cripton at gol.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 13:46:45 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 11:46:45 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889 --- Comment #18 from Michal Suchánek --- (In reply to comment #11) > Created attachment 1913 [details] > potential fix > > Michal, try this patch. I cannot reproduce the problem with this patch applied. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From msuchanek at suse.de Tue Sep 18 13:50:15 2018 From: msuchanek at suse.de (Michal =?UTF-8?B?U3VjaMOhbmVr?=) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 13:50:15 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: <20180913122328.7c9bf040@localhost> References: <20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan> <20180913120302.08a138d7@localhost> <20180913131529.44cf0819@naga.suse.cz> <20180913122328.7c9bf040@localhost> Message-ID: <20180918135015.06ccff5b@naga.suse.cz> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:23:28 -0000 Paul wrote: > On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 13:15:29 +0200 > Michal Suchánek wrote: > > > Don't understand what you are saying. Can you say what is the > > behaviour expected by you in detail? Also how does it work with > > reply-all? > > > > Either way the code as is is bogus. It coalesces information from > > multiple messages to create an addressee list which is clearly > > bogus. > > > > It pretends to reply to one message while quoting another which is > > clearly bogus as well. > > No need to reply to me and the mailing list - you have to be > subscribed to post, so just reply to the mailing list. AFAICT claws does not have per-list reply settings so I use reply-all all the time which works with all lists. > > Be aware that I agree that right-clicking a message and choosing > reply should reply to that right-clicked message. > > The suse patch was no good, as it fixed one thing and broke a couple > others. It needs to fix the issue without breaking anything else, > (obviously!). It fixes sending mail to random people unrelated to the message which can be considered security issue. On the other hand it breaks some features in an obvious and easy to workaround way. I would say it's an improvement. Thanks Michal From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 14:17:39 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:17:39 -0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: <20180918135015.06ccff5b@naga.suse.cz> References: <20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan> <20180913120302.08a138d7@localhost> <20180913131529.44cf0819@naga.suse.cz> <20180913122328.7c9bf040@localhost> <20180918135015.06ccff5b@naga.suse.cz> Message-ID: <20180918131739.1685734b@localhost> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 13:50:15 +0200 Michal Suchánek wrote: > AFAICT claws does not have per-list reply settings so I use > reply-all all the time which works with all lists. See /Comfiguration/Preferences/Compose/Writing, 'Reply invokes mailing list reply'. See /Message/Reply to/Mailing List. See /Message/Mailing List/... Failing those, you can create a folder for a mailing list, filter the messages into it, and then use the Folder Properties to set the correct address. > It fixes sending mail to random people unrelated to the message > which can be considered security issue. On the other hand it breaks > some features in an obvious and easy to workaround way. I would say > it's an improvement. That's where we differ. It's not about sending messages, but about composing them. Arguably, the current situation is easy to avoid. Sure it improves one thing and breaks 2 others, that makes a score of -1 to me :) Since we know that your patch breaks things, it can't possibly be accepted. Anyway, Colin's patch is getting close to fixing it, (it also doesn't break anything), some more work and it will be good. with regards Paul From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 14:25:49 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:25:49 -0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: <20180918131739.1685734b@localhost> References: <20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan> <20180913120302.08a138d7@localhost> <20180913131529.44cf0819@naga.suse.cz> <20180913122328.7c9bf040@localhost> <20180918135015.06ccff5b@naga.suse.cz> <20180918131739.1685734b@localhost> Message-ID: <20180918132549.010e5c5b@localhost> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:17:39 -0000 Paul wrote: > Sure it improves one thing and breaks 2 others To be clear, 'it' here refers to your patch. with regards Paul From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 14:47:06 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:47:06 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889 --- Comment #19 from Paul --- (In reply to comment #18) > > I cannot reproduce the problem with this patch applied. Thanks for the test, but I spotted a couple problems with it after posting it here. Colin's patch is some steps in the right direction, although not yet without problems - e.g. main menu reply acts differently from toolbar button reply. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From shai at platonix.com Tue Sep 18 14:49:35 2018 From: shai at platonix.com (Shai Berger) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 15:49:35 +0300 Subject: [Users] Claws 3.17 and Dillo In-Reply-To: <20180918190511.3b6ca931@onk-01.LPTN_LAN01> References: <20180918190511.3b6ca931@onk-01.LPTN_LAN01> Message-ID: <20180918154918.5dbc552e.shai@platonix.com> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 19:05:11 +0900 Charles Lipton wrote: > 1. Dillo does not render CJK (Chinese-Japanese-Korean) fonts in mixed > HTML documents such as ads or business offers. Installed font for > Claws is a TrueType CJK font named IPAP Gothic, a standard Debian > installed font. It works well with non-HTML mail. > FWIW, I just checked dillo (not even the plugin -- as a stand-alone browser), and it fails to handle bidirectional text -- that is, it renders Hebrew left-to-right. I would expect little there, as far as internationalization goes. Shai. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 16:28:36 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:28:36 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4087] Unloading Python crashes CM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4087 --- Comment #2 from Pierre Fortin --- startup and shutdown scripts in ~/.claws-mail/python-scripts/auto do not cause this crash. Rather, with ONLY compose_any in .../auto containing only "import re" (all else commented) crashes CM #!/usr/bin/env python # save this as ~/.claws-mail/python-scripts/auto/compose_any # Workaround for R: in reply headers import re #clawsmail.compose_window.set_subject(re.sub( # r"^(Re|Fwd|Fw): R:", r"\1:", # clawsmail.compose_window.get_subject() # )) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 16:36:17 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:36:17 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4087] Unloading Python crashes CM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4087 --- Comment #3 from Ricardo Mones --- What does "/usr/bin/env python --version" output on your system? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 16:38:48 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:38:48 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4087] Unloading Python crashes CM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4087 --- Comment #4 from Pierre Fortin --- $ python Python 2.7.15 (default, May 1 2018, 17:08:05) [GCC 5.4.0] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> import re >>> -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 16:46:25 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:46:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4087] Unloading Python crashes CM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4087 --- Comment #5 from Ricardo Mones --- That's not the command I wrote :-) Anyway it's strange because here it works fine with: Python 2.7.13 (default, Nov 24 2017, 17:33:09) [GCC 6.3.0 20170516] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> And I have a more elaborated script on compose_any which adds some menu entries, and which is not executable and without the shebang line... maybe worth a test? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 17:14:21 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 15:14:21 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4087] Unloading Python crashes CM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4087 --- Comment #6 from Pierre Fortin --- Ok... :) $ /usr/bin/env python --version Python 2.7.15 I also included "import re" to show it works there... The shebang is the problem... I changed it to: ##!/usr/bin/env python and the crash doesn't occur. Normally, the shell uses the shebang; CM shouldn't, should it? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 17:34:32 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 15:34:32 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4087] Unloading Python crashes CM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4087 --- Comment #7 from Pierre Fortin --- What the....??? Copied the original script back in, and now it doesn't crash... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 17:39:53 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 15:39:53 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4087] Unloading Python crashes CM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4087 --- Comment #8 from Pierre Fortin --- Freaking weird... copied startup & shutdown back in and the crash returned. Yet, comment out the shebang line in compose_any and the crashes stop... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 17:49:51 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 15:49:51 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4087] Unloading Python crashes CM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4087 --- Comment #9 from Michael Rasmussen --- (In reply to comment #8) > Freaking weird... copied startup & shutdown back in and the crash returned. > Yet, comment out the shebang line in compose_any and the crashes stop... Maybe this problem? https://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-bom.en -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 19:09:10 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 17:09:10 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on feed refreshing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3971 --- Comment #24 from Removed after GDPR request --- Right after my previous reply I deleted again all messages for that feed and now I refreshed it. The oldest message I see is with time: Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 15:39:31 GMT + there are others with timestamps from before my previous reply. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 19:10:07 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 17:10:07 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4087] Unloading Python crashes CM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4087 --- Comment #10 from Pierre Fortin --- Created attachment 1920 --> https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1920&action=edit strace Nope; no utf-8 chars at beginning. First char in all 3 files is "#" 0x23; although startup & shutdown have: # -*- coding: utf-8 -*- as their first lines -- which is only(?) used as a directive to an editor such as emacs... see strace output -- coincidence?: last read()=8 and si_addr=0x8... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 20:21:06 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:21:06 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on feed refreshing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3971 --- Comment #25 from Andrej Kacian --- I suggest upgrading to latest git version - I just made some changes to how feed item timestamps are handled, perhaps it will help you here. You will probably see some items duplicated, that is a one-time glitch caused by the change. That said, I couldn't reproduce the described issue with the frognews feed even before this. Deleted items stay deleted, only newly published items appear after a feed refresh. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From msuchanek at suse.de Tue Sep 18 21:54:21 2018 From: msuchanek at suse.de (Michal =?UTF-8?B?U3VjaMOhbmVr?=) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 21:54:21 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: <20180918131739.1685734b@localhost> References: <20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan> <20180913120302.08a138d7@localhost> <20180913131529.44cf0819@naga.suse.cz> <20180913122328.7c9bf040@localhost> <20180918135015.06ccff5b@naga.suse.cz> <20180918131739.1685734b@localhost> Message-ID: <20180918215421.2828e47c@naga.suse.cz> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:17:39 -0000 Paul wrote: > On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 13:50:15 +0200 > Michal Suchánek wrote: > > > AFAICT claws does not have per-list reply settings so I use > > reply-all all the time which works with all lists. > > See /Comfiguration/Preferences/Compose/Writing, 'Reply invokes > mailing list reply'. What do you not understand about per-list? That's global setting, not per-list. Some lists work like that, some do not. > > See /Message/Reply to/Mailing List. > > See /Message/Mailing List/... So claws already knows what mailing list the message belongs to. If it can set default reply option based on that it might work better. However, it seems you can only choose between reply-sender and reply-list as default. I want to choose between reply-list and reply-all which does not seem to be supported at all (or making reply-all the default for that matter). So I always invoke reply-all manually overriding the default so what the default is is completely irrelevant. > > Failing those, you can create a folder for a mailing list, filter the > messages into it, and then use the Folder Properties to set the > correct address. But that forces me to create separate folder which is not something I want. > > > It fixes sending mail to random people unrelated to the message > > which can be considered security issue. On the other hand it breaks > > some features in an obvious and easy to workaround way. I would say > > it's an improvement. > > That's where we differ. It's not about sending messages, but about > composing them. And composing messages is about what? You stack them into your drawer and never send them? > Arguably, the current situation is easy to avoid. It is not. claws gives you a reply window with bogus data - a message with addresses from another message. Unless you carefully check each message you compose you send messages to wrong people. The case when a feature just fails completely is much easier to workaround. Thanks Michal From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 22:10:05 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 20:10:05 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on feed refreshing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3971 --- Comment #26 from Removed after GDPR request --- Thanks Andrej. Updated and will keep an eye on it. > I couldn't reproduce the described issue with the frognews feed I have been thinking: Do you think this may be because we may be in different time zones (and CM not handling that properly)? Right now I am deleting all in frognews again at: [~]: date Tue Sep 18 23:09:28 EEST 2018 Will check how things are tomorrow. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 23:23:56 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 21:23:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on feed refreshing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3971 --- Comment #27 from Removed after GDPR request --- [~]: date Wed Sep 19 00:21:19 EEST 2018 Refreshing the feed shows me 2 old messages as unread: Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:32:18 GMT Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:41:57 GMT -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 23:56:41 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 21:56:41 -0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: <20180918215421.2828e47c@naga.suse.cz> References: <20180913113144.0551dfc1@acer-suse.lan> <20180913120302.08a138d7@localhost> <20180913131529.44cf0819@naga.suse.cz> <20180913122328.7c9bf040@localhost> <20180918135015.06ccff5b@naga.suse.cz> <20180918131739.1685734b@localhost> <20180918215421.2828e47c@naga.suse.cz> Message-ID: <20180918225641.19575994@localhost> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 21:54:21 +0200 Michal Suchánek wrote: > What do you not understand about per-list? That's global setting, > not per-list. Some lists work like that, some do not. Yes, it's a global setting, and it works for all mailing lists that set the default list headers. > > > > See /Message/Reply to/Mailing List. > > > > See /Message/Mailing List/... > > So I always invoke reply-all Yes, and this is the third or fourth time I'm asking you not to send your reply to me and the list, but just send it to the list. You should also respect the Reply-To header if the sender sets it, and use that. Blanket reply-all does not respect that either. > > > > Failing those, you can create a folder for a mailing list, filter > > the messages into it, and then use the Folder Properties to set > > the correct address. > > But that forces me to create separate folder which is not something > I want. No, those mailing lists that don't use the standard list headers (or explicit Reply-To: list-addr) force you do that. > > Arguably, the current situation is easy to avoid. > > It is not. Well, I said 'arguably'. Your argument is that it is not easy to avoid, mine is that it is. But, anyway, as you know by now, your patch was inadequate and a better patch is being prepared. with regards Paul From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 23:58:55 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 21:58:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on feed refreshing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3971 --- Comment #28 from Paul --- (In reply to comment #26) > I have been thinking: Do you think this may be because we may be in > different time zones (and CM not handling that properly)? Do you have reason to think that CM does not handle timezones properly? I don't. For example, I use a different timezone from Andrej, but neither of us could reproduce your problem. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 00:13:46 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 22:13:46 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on feed refreshing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3971 --- Comment #29 from Removed after GDPR request --- Created attachment 1921 --> https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1921&action=edit screenshot for feed settings > Do you have reason to think that CM does not handle timezones properly? I was just speculating around the facts and wondering what may be different between you guys and me. So the time zone difference was the only one I could think about. Another thing: are we using the same settings for the feed? I am attaching a screenshot of mine. Also: are you doing the same as me? I.e. 1. Delete all messages 2. Wait a few hours 3. Refresh the feed If the answer to both questions is yes - it is a real mystery and I am open to suggestions about how to investigate further. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From kae at midnighthax.com Wed Sep 19 07:41:07 2018 From: kae at midnighthax.com (Keith Edmunds) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 06:41:07 +0100 Subject: [Users] Updating Google calendar from Claws Message-ID: <20180919064107.02bd7981@ws.midnighthax.com> I'm using the vCalendar plugin. When a calendar invitation arrives, there's an "Action" box where I can "Accept" the invite. Is there any way of linking this to Google calendar? There are two situations that can arise: when someone within my Google GSuite invites me to a meeting, and when someone external does. The former will create a pending invite in Google calendar, and the latter won't. I'd like claws to mark the invite as accepted in the first instance, and to create a calendar entry in the second. Thanks. -- "Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read" - Groucho Marx From removed-gdpr at example.com Wed Sep 19 09:49:51 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:49:51 +0300 Subject: [Users] Deleting whole threads Message-ID: <20180919104951.7cb1690a@localhost> Hi, I have a processing rule which auto deletes messages which are "ignore_thread & age_greater 30". But I suppose it would result in thread being partially deleted if there are messages in the same thread which are with age of 20 days. I wonder: is there a way to delete a whole ignored thread instead based on the age of the first (or last) message in it? If not - do you think it would be a useful feature request? -- George From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 15:55:43 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 13:55:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4090] New: Claws crashes on Windows 10 Pro (1803) Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4090 Bug ID: 4090 Summary: Claws crashes on Windows 10 Pro (1803) Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail (Windows) Version: 3.16.0 Hardware: PC OS: Windows 10 Status: NEW Severity: major Priority: P3 Component: default Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: mrmangas at gmail.com Hello, In our company we are using Windows 10 Pro (1803) with Claws-Mail x64 client. It crashes all by itself after some time (1 - 2 hours after launching). I don't have to do a single thing (not even a click) and it turns off just like that, and I have to launch it again. I just updated it from v. 3.16.0 to 3.16.3 and after few days to 3.17.1. It remains the same, still crashes. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 17:38:58 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 15:38:58 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on feed refreshing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3971 --- Comment #30 from Removed after GDPR request --- Here is another feed which shows the issue: http://www.bacula.org/git/cgit.cgi/bacula/atom/?h=Branch-9.2 5-6 hours ago I deleted all messages in it. Now I refreshed it and it shows me old messages, oldest one is from: Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2018 05:22:04 GMT -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 17:52:37 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 15:52:37 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4091] New: Buttons and shortcuts for quick search Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4091 Bug ID: 4091 Summary: Buttons and shortcuts for quick search Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: QuickSearch Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com I find myself often using the same quick searches I used recently (which of course show in the dropdown). It would be great if one could create custom button(s) for specific quick search which could appear for example in the bar between message list and message view. Being able to assign shortcut keys for toggling those would be even better. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 18:57:12 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 16:57:12 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4092] New: Consolidated search result message list Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4092 Bug ID: 4092 Summary: Consolidated search result message list Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: QuickSearch Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com It would be very useful to have an option to see all messages (from subfolders etc) found using search in a consolidated message list. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 19:05:32 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:05:32 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4093] New: Improve/enhance the visual cue of folders containing messages found by quick search Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4093 Bug ID: 4093 Summary: Improve/enhance the visual cue of folders containing messages found by quick search Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: UI/Folder List Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com Currently recursive quick search adds a thin line loupe on the folders containing messages matching search criteria. If the folder has no subfolders (so that it can also show a "+" after folder name) that seems a vague visual hint, especially when using breeze theme. It would be good to have some more prominent visual style for folders containing found messages (e.g. colored background of the line containing the folder name, maybe yellow?) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 19:15:03 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:15:03 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4093] Improve/enhance the visual cue of folders containing messages found by quick search In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4093 --- Comment #1 from djh --- I'd second this request. I've often thought a different colour or bold text would make it easier to spot matches than a small magnifying glass icon. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From usenet at karmasailing.uk Wed Sep 19 19:22:31 2018 From: usenet at karmasailing.uk (Bob Williams) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 18:22:31 +0100 Subject: [Users] Proton Mail bridge Message-ID: <20180919182231.470ca3ce@blackbox.karmasailing.uk> Is anyone else testing ProtonMail Bridge? I find that Claws-Mail crashes when switching folders in my ProtonMail account. Apparently Bridge works OK with Thunderbird, so I wonder if the problem is in CM? I'm using version 3.17.1 from the openSUSE build.opensuse.org/server:mail repository -- Bob Williams System: Linux 4.18.5-1.g9e91e29-default Distro: Desktop: KDE Frameworks: 5.45.0, Qt: 5.9.4 and Plasma: 5.12.5 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 19:30:28 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:30:28 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4093] Improve/enhance the visual cue of folders containing messages found by quick search In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4093 --- Comment #3 from Removed after GDPR request --- Created attachment 1922 --> https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1922&action=edit example Here is an example of what it may look like (suppose Inbox and Sent contain matches) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From ticho at claws-mail.org Wed Sep 19 20:45:22 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 20:45:22 +0200 Subject: [Users] Proton Mail bridge In-Reply-To: <20180919182231.470ca3ce@blackbox.karmasailing.uk> References: <20180919182231.470ca3ce@blackbox.karmasailing.uk> Message-ID: <20180919204522.795979b4@penny> On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 18:22:31 +0100 Bob Williams wrote: > Is anyone else testing ProtonMail Bridge? > > I find that Claws-Mail crashes when switching folders in my ProtonMail account. Apparently Bridge works OK with Thunderbird, so I wonder if the problem is in CM? I'm using version 3.17.1 from the openSUSE build.opensuse.org/server:mail repository > It's probably this: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4016 Get openSUSE to update their version of libetpan package, newer releases have this bug fixed. Regards, -- Andrej -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 20:57:24 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 18:57:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4090] Claws crashes on Windows 10 Pro (1803) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4090 --- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian --- Does the 32-bit version crash as well? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 21:06:55 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 19:06:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4090] Claws crashes on Windows 10 Pro (1803) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4090 --- Comment #2 from Lucas --- I don't know. I didn't try it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From usenet at karmasailing.uk Wed Sep 19 21:15:50 2018 From: usenet at karmasailing.uk (Bob Williams) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 20:15:50 +0100 Subject: [Users] Proton Mail bridge In-Reply-To: <20180919204522.795979b4@penny> References: <20180919182231.470ca3ce@blackbox.karmasailing.uk> <20180919204522.795979b4@penny> Message-ID: <20180919201550.464145bd@blackbox.karmasailing.uk> On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 20:45:22 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 18:22:31 +0100 > Bob Williams wrote: > > > Is anyone else testing ProtonMail Bridge? > > > > I find that Claws-Mail crashes when switching folders in my > > ProtonMail account. Apparently Bridge works OK with Thunderbird, so > > I wonder if the problem is in CM? I'm using version 3.17.1 from the > > openSUSE build.opensuse.org/server:mail repository > > It's probably this: > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4016 > > Get openSUSE to update their version of libetpan package, newer > releases have this bug fixed. > > Regards, Many thanks Andrej. I'll chase openSUSE. Bob -- Bob Williams System: Linux 4.18.5-1.g9e91e29-default Distro: Desktop: KDE Frameworks: 5.45.0, Qt: 5.9.4 and Plasma: 5.12.5 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 21:43:10 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 19:43:10 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4087] Unloading Python crashes CM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4087 --- Comment #11 from Shai Berger --- (In reply to comment #10) > Nope; no utf-8 chars at beginning. First char in all 3 files is "#" 0x23; > although startup & shutdown have: > # -*- coding: utf-8 -*- > as their first lines -- which is only(?) used as a directive to an editor > such as emacs... > No, they are used by the Python interpreter, in case you want to include anything that isn't ASCII in your script. Not sure this has anything to do with the actual problem, just wanted to clarify. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 20 09:13:58 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 07:13:58 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4091] Buttons and shortcuts for quick search In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4091 Abhay S. Kushwaha changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE --- Comment #1 from Abhay S. Kushwaha --- *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 2810 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 20 09:13:58 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 07:13:58 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2810] "QuickSearch Button Bar" plugin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2810 Abhay S. Kushwaha changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |removed-gdpr at example.com --- Comment #3 from Abhay S. Kushwaha --- *** Bug 4091 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 20 09:23:40 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 07:23:40 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4092] Consolidated search result message list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4092 Abhay S. Kushwaha changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE --- Comment #1 from Abhay S. Kushwaha --- *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 2250 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 20 09:23:40 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 07:23:40 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2250] Virtual folders In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2250 Abhay S. Kushwaha changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |removed-gdpr at example.com --- Comment #12 from Abhay S. Kushwaha --- *** Bug 4092 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 20 09:28:19 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 07:28:19 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3757] Status not save before restart OS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3757 Abhay S. Kushwaha changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Abhay S. Kushwaha --- This information is called "metadata". See Preferences -> Other -> Miscellaneous -> Metadata handling Claws Mail requires clean exits anyway, so ideally you should exit Claws Mail, and actually even other software before shutting down/restarting OS. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From subscript at free.fr Thu Sep 20 22:17:07 2018 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:17:07 +0200 Subject: [Users] [PATCH] quicksearch: expand extended symbols on "Edit" In-Reply-To: <20180828180422.1d51a098@jjacky.com> References: <20170610210902.14289-1-jjk@jjacky.com> <20170610232351.414528e4@anthra> <20170610235549.397d0acd@jjacky.com> <20170611000759.33c89cae@anthra> <20180828180422.1d51a098@jjacky.com> Message-ID: <20180920221707.352574de@ladybug> Hello Olivier, On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 18:04:22 +0200 Olivier Brunel wrote: > Bump; And a rebased on 3.17 just in case. Merged, thanks! Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 21 14:37:40 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 12:37:40 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on feed refreshing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3971 --- Comment #31 from Removed after GDPR request --- Update about frognews: Today I tried something different. I marked all messages as read and after 2-3 hours I refreshed the feed: Result: For some messages new duplicates appeared as unread (identical timestamps_. Checking the content of those messages I see one difference: The URL has changed. Looking at http://rss.frognews.bg/ though shows the particular message only once. I wonder if "Never mark it as new" may be failing and causing this particular issue. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From derekn at foolabs.com Fri Sep 21 23:09:28 2018 From: derekn at foolabs.com (Derek B. Noonburg) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 14:09:28 -0700 Subject: [Users] key binding mysteriously changing Message-ID: <20180921140928.5c8a3464@numbat> This is a weird little problem... I removed the key binding for ctrl-W in the compose window (by navigating to Message -> Close and hitting the Delete key). That works fine, and is reflected in .claws-mail/menurc. However, at some point later, the binding mysteriously reverts back to the default (i.e., ctrl-W is once again bound to Message -> Close). I have no idea how to debug this. If I delete the binding, quit claws, and restart it, it's fine. The re-binding only seems to happen some indeterminate time later. I have no idea what's triggering it. I've seen this with 3.17.0 and 3.17.1, both compiled from source, on Linux. Has anyone seen anything like this? Any suggestions on how to track it down? - Derek From chris2014 at postbox.xyz Sat Sep 22 09:42:35 2018 From: chris2014 at postbox.xyz (Chris) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 09:42:35 +0200 Subject: [Users] Watch Threads Message-ID: <20180922094235.0725a7b2@cd> All, maybe a simple question: how to read watched threads? Is there any filter, list or notification? - Chris From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 22 10:45:35 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 08:45:35 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4094] New: Provide visual cue and save reminder for changed filter/processing rules Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4094 Bug ID: 4094 Summary: Provide visual cue and save reminder for changed filter/processing rules Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: Filtering Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com Currently when a filter or processing rule is changed one needs to click the "Replace" button to save the change. However it is possible that one has edited the rule and forgot to click "Replace" in which case the changes are simply lost without undo (which can be annoying). So nothing provides a way to: - remind the user of unsaved changes - see that the rule has been changed It would be good to have: - a reminder which shows up if a rule is not saved - a visual cue indicating that the rule has been changed but not saved (e.g. make the line bold) This suggestion is also for the sub-dialogs for condition and action editing where the situation is the same. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 22 10:51:40 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 08:51:40 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4095] New: Provide visual indication for filter rules with move/stop action Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4095 Bug ID: 4095 Summary: Provide visual indication for filter rules with move/stop action Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: Filtering Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com Considering that Claws Mail stops processing next filter rules if there is a match for a rule with a move/stop action, it would be useful to have visual indication for those particular rules (and/or for those which don't move/stop). For example a different text color/background/icon for those rules. This would be helpful to assign correct order of rules easier. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 22 10:54:35 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 08:54:35 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4094] Provide visual cue and save reminder for changed filter/processing rules In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4094 --- Comment #1 from Removed after GDPR request --- To clarify: this is a suggestion about individual rules when one switches from one (edited) rule to another (I know there is a global reminder if one tries to exit the rule editing interface if the currently selected rule has been edited but that's different) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From removed-gdpr at example.com Sat Sep 22 12:08:59 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed after GDPR request) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 13:08:59 +0300 Subject: [Users] Using RSS and NNTP through TOR Message-ID: <20180922130859.6d1603da@localhost> Hi, I have been looking for a way to use RSS and NNTP through TOR. The tor system service is started however setting 127.0.0.1:9050 as socks5 proxy for the NNTP account results in: *** Error logging in to news.gmane.org:563... *** Error creating session with news.gmane.org:563 I couldn't even find a way to set a proxy for RSSyl. How can I do all that? (mail should work without proxy) -- George From ticho at claws-mail.org Sat Sep 22 13:46:02 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 13:46:02 +0200 Subject: [Users] Using RSS and NNTP through TOR In-Reply-To: <20180922130859.6d1603da@localhost> References: <20180922130859.6d1603da@localhost> Message-ID: <20180922134602.4e5bdfd2@penny> On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 13:08:59 +0300 George wrote: > Hi, > > I have been looking for a way to use RSS and NNTP > through TOR. The tor system service is started however > setting 127.0.0.1:9050 as socks5 proxy for the NNTP > account results in: > > *** Error logging in to news.gmane.org:563... > *** Error creating session with news.gmane.org:563 > > I couldn't even find a way to set a proxy for RSSyl. > > How can I do all that? (mail should work without proxy) > For NNTP, SOCKS5 proxy works just fine over here, although I'm using Dante as my proxy server, not Tor. What does --debug output say when trying to connect? As for RSSyl, right now, probably only setting http_proxy and https_proxy environment variables to "socks5://proxy:port" will work. -- Andrej From bugs.michael at gmx.net Sat Sep 22 15:32:55 2018 From: bugs.michael at gmx.net (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 15:32:55 +0200 Subject: [Users] SNI and Google Mail self-signed certificate for IMAP Message-ID: <20180922153255.4e515ed0@noname> Both Claws Mail 3.16.0 and 3.17.1, which don't exhibit the same symptoms on Fedora 28, on Fedora 29 only get offered a self-signed certificate when contacting Google Mail IMAP using gnutls. It is not clear to me yet what exactly has changed and whether the theory that it is related to SNI is correct. Why would the same package be affected only on F29 and not F28? Is anything known about this yet? $ strings ~/.claws-mail/certs/imap.gmail.com.993.cert 0N110/ (No SNI provided; please fix your client.1 invalid2.invalid0 150101000000Z 300101000000Z0N110/ (No SNI provided; please fix your client.1 invalid2.invalid0 } \Y w[M ]0[0 0*`d #vBc ?I_n From removed-gdpr at example.com Sat Sep 22 15:57:16 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 16:57:16 +0300 Subject: [Users] Using RSS and NNTP through TOR In-Reply-To: <20180922134602.4e5bdfd2@penny> References: <20180922130859.6d1603da@localhost> <20180922134602.4e5bdfd2@penny> Message-ID: <20180922165716.57ed1591@localhost> On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 13:46:02 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > What does --debug output say when trying to connect? Attached. > As for RSSyl, right now, probably only setting > http_proxy and https_proxy environment variables to > "socks5://proxy:port" will work. You mean in KDE Plasma settings? Won't that also force mail to work through that proxy? I want mail to work without proxy. BTW I also experienced a weird issue when playing with this. Here is the STR (please let me know if this is a bug to be reported): 1. Set 127.0.0.1:9050 as socks5 proxy for NNTP account 2. Try to connect (failed as explained) 3. Undo 1 4. Repeat 1 for Preferences->Mail Handling->Proxy (just to test if that would affect RSS, but this was silly) 5. Refresh RSS 6. Undo 4 7. Exit CM 8. Start CM 9. Try to check default mail account Suddenly here CM asked me for password although I have always had it set in the account preferences. Then when I went to check that account - I noticed that for some reason the account was duplicated. I removed the second copy, then tried again to check mail. Again: CM asked for password. I opened again the account settings, set the password, saved the changes. Once again: CM asked for password. I exited CM but after that could not start it. Only deleting the associated directory in /tmp helped me start CM again. But even after that - the password was not there. After a few attempts CM finally memorized it. Now that I was testing NNTP with proxy settings I experienced a similar thing: Setting the proxy for the NNTP account worked fine. Then for unsetting it I had to do it twice because the first time the change didn't get saved. -- George -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: nntp-tor-connection.txt URL: From ticho at claws-mail.org Sat Sep 22 16:01:27 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 16:01:27 +0200 Subject: [Users] Using RSS and NNTP through TOR In-Reply-To: <20180922165716.57ed1591@localhost> References: <20180922130859.6d1603da@localhost> <20180922134602.4e5bdfd2@penny> <20180922165716.57ed1591@localhost> Message-ID: <20180922160127.2d3421ed@penny> On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 16:57:16 +0300 Removed GDPR wrote: > You mean in KDE Plasma settings? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_variable -- Andrej From ticho at claws-mail.org Sat Sep 22 16:10:00 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 16:10:00 +0200 Subject: [Users] Using RSS and NNTP through TOR In-Reply-To: <20180922165716.57ed1591@localhost> References: <20180922130859.6d1603da@localhost> <20180922134602.4e5bdfd2@penny> <20180922165716.57ed1591@localhost> Message-ID: <20180922161000.482deca9@penny> On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 16:57:16 +0300 Removed GDPR wrote: > ** (claws-mail:10267): WARNING **: socks5_connect: SOCKS5 response > read failed This looks like the proxy server does not work correctly - according to the SOCKS5 protocol[1], the initial response should be two bytes, and if it is anything else, Claws Mail will not like it[2]. > Suddenly here CM asked me for password although I have > always had it set in the account preferences. Then > when I went to check that account - I noticed that for > some reason the account was duplicated. I removed the > second copy, then tried again to check mail. Again: CM > asked for password. I opened again the account > settings, set the password, saved the changes. Once > again: CM asked for password. I exited CM but after > that could not start it. Only deleting the associated > directory in /tmp helped me start CM again. But even > after that - the password was not there. After a few > attempts CM finally memorized it. That looks like a bug, although I can't seem to reproduce it. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOCKS5#SOCKS5 2. https://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=blob;f=src/common/proxy.c;hb=HEAD#l187 Regards, -- Andrej From ticho at claws-mail.org Sat Sep 22 16:12:00 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 16:12:00 +0200 Subject: [Users] SNI and Google Mail self-signed certificate for IMAP In-Reply-To: <20180922153255.4e515ed0@noname> References: <20180922153255.4e515ed0@noname> Message-ID: <20180922161200.45fcbf8d@penny> On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 15:32:55 +0200 Michael Schwendt wrote: > Both Claws Mail 3.16.0 and 3.17.1, which don't exhibit the same > symptoms on Fedora 28, on Fedora 29 only get offered a self-signed > certificate when contacting Google Mail IMAP using gnutls. > > It is not clear to me yet what exactly has changed and whether > the theory that it is related to SNI is correct. Why would the same > package be affected only on F29 and not F28? > > Is anything known about this yet? Perhaps different versions of GnuTLS in each Fedora? You can test the connection yourself with gnutls-cli or gnutls-cli-debug. Regards, -- Andrej From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 22 16:30:36 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 14:30:36 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4096] New: Sporadic crashes when opening an email Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4096 Bug ID: 4096 Summary: Sporadic crashes when opening an email Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail (Windows) Version: 3.7.1 Hardware: PC OS: Windows 10 Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: default Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: gerard.seibert at gmail.com Running Windows 10 / and 64, version 1809, build 17758.4 and claws-mail - 64bit, version 3.7.1. CM crashes sporadically when opening emails. I tried to debug it; however, CM always crashes when run under the debugger. C:\Users\Gerard>C:\Users\Gerard\Downloads\gdb.exe "C:\Program Files\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe" This binary was built by Equation Solution . GNU gdb (GDB) 7.12 Copyright (C) 2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type "show copying" and "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "x86_64-w64-mingw32". Type "show configuration" for configuration details. For bug reporting instructions, please see: . Find the GDB manual and other documentation resources online at: . For help, type "help". Type "apropos word" to search for commands related to "word"... Reading symbols from C:\Program Files\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe...(no debugging symbols found)...done. (gdb) run Starting program: C:\Program Files\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe [New Thread 15592.0x5318] [New Thread 15592.0x535c] [New Thread 15592.0x4c60] [New Thread 15592.0x29ac] warning: Can not parse XML library list; XML support was disabled at compile time [New Thread 15592.0x32e0] [New Thread 15592.0x53bc] [New Thread 15592.0x4a04] [New Thread 15592.0x4d80] [New Thread 15592.0x2820] [New Thread 15592.0x4704] [New Thread 15592.0x31c8] [Thread 15592.0x31c8 exited with code 0] [New Thread 15592.0x1eec] [Thread 15592.0x1eec exited with code 0] [New Thread 15592.0x358] [Thread 15592.0x358 exited with code 0] [New Thread 15592.0x3f1c] [Thread 15592.0x3f1c exited with code 0] [New Thread 15592.0x48b8] [Thread 15592.0x48b8 exited with code 0] warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]: warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 00000197C20E0000, 00000197C7CA1960 ) Thread 1 received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap. 0x00007ffe702e8c07 in ?? () (gdb) continue Continuing. [New Thread 15592.0x4894] warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]: warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 00000197C20E0000, 00000197C7CA1960 ) Thread 1 received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap. 0x00007ffe702e8c07 in ?? () (gdb) bt full #0 0x00007ffe702e8c07 in ?? () No symbol table info available. Backtrace stopped: previous frame identical to this frame (corrupt stack?) (gdb) quit A debugging session is active. Inferior 1 [process 15592] will be killed. Quit anyway? (y or n) y Since CM crashed prior to attempting to open an email, I cannot get any further info. By the way, how do I run CM with "--debug" under the GDB debugger? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From removed-gdpr at example.com Sat Sep 22 16:32:00 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 17:32:00 +0300 Subject: [Users] Using RSS and NNTP through TOR In-Reply-To: <20180922161000.482deca9@penny> References: <20180922130859.6d1603da@localhost> <20180922134602.4e5bdfd2@penny> <20180922165716.57ed1591@localhost> <20180922161000.482deca9@penny> Message-ID: <20180922173200.316ec9a9@localhost> On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 16:10:00 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > This looks like the proxy server does not work > correctly - according to the SOCKS5 protocol[1], the > initial response should be two bytes, and if it is > anything else, Claws Mail will not like it[2]. Thanks for noticing that! I checked my /etc/torrc and there was a misconfiguration for SocksPolicy. After fixing it NNTP works with proxy. > That looks like a bug, although I can't seem to > reproduce it. Which is strange because I have just experienced it again. Unfortunately I also can't seem to reproduce it deliberately. -- George From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 22 17:12:35 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 15:12:35 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4096] Sporadic crashes when opening an email In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4096 --- Comment #1 from Gerard Seibert --- Okay, this time I was able to get the actual info at the time CM crashes. C:\Users\Gerard>C:\Users\Gerard\Downloads\gdb.exe "C:\Program Files\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe" This binary was built by Equation Solution . GNU gdb (GDB) 7.12 Copyright (C) 2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type "show copying" and "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "x86_64-w64-mingw32". Type "show configuration" for configuration details. For bug reporting instructions, please see: . Find the GDB manual and other documentation resources online at: . For help, type "help". Type "apropos word" to search for commands related to "word"... Reading symbols from C:\Program Files\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe...(no debugging symbols found)...done. (gdb) run "--debug" Starting program: C:\Program Files\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe "--debug" [New Thread 11944.0x5110] [New Thread 11944.0x4f90] [New Thread 11944.0x4640] [New Thread 11944.0x1eec] warning: Can not parse XML library list; XML support was disabled at compile time [New Thread 11944.0x5bec] [New Thread 11944.0x6f8] [New Thread 11944.0x54a8] [New Thread 11944.0x4d04] [New Thread 11944.0x5490] [New Thread 11944.0x4ab0] [New Thread 11944.0x3fc] [Thread 11944.0x3fc exited with code 0] [New Thread 11944.0x93c] [Thread 11944.0x93c exited with code 0] [New Thread 11944.0x4f58] [Thread 11944.0x4f58 exited with code 0] [New Thread 11944.0x29f8] [Thread 11944.0x29f8 exited with code 0] [New Thread 11944.0x2610] [Thread 11944.0x2610 exited with code 0] warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]: warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 00000230516C0000, 00000230571A1960 ) Thread 1 received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap. 0x00007ffe702e8c07 in ?? () (gdb) continue Continuing. warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]: warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 00000230516C0000, 00000230571A1960 ) Thread 1 received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap. 0x00007ffe702e8c07 in ?? () (gdb) continue Continuing. warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]: warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 00000230516C0000, 00000230571A1A90 ) Thread 1 received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap. 0x00007ffe702e8c07 in ?? () (gdb) continue Continuing. warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]: warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 00000230516C0000, 00000230571A1A90 ) Thread 1 received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap. 0x00007ffe702e8c07 in ?? () (gdb) continue Continuing. [New Thread 11944.0x61f4] [New Thread 11944.0x5580] [New Thread 11944.0x4700] [New Thread 11944.0x3908] [New Thread 11944.0x5114] [New Thread 11944.0x95c] [New Thread 11944.0x4668] [New Thread 11944.0x2748] [New Thread 11944.0x62cc] [New Thread 11944.0x4de8] [New Thread 11944.0x48f8] [New Thread 11944.0x3bfc] [New Thread 11944.0x30d0] [New Thread 11944.0x5ecc] [New Thread 11944.0x2034] [New Thread 11944.0x2f64] [Thread 11944.0x2034 exited with code 0] [Thread 11944.0x3bfc exited with code 0] [Thread 11944.0x30d0 exited with code 0] [Thread 11944.0x5ecc exited with code 0] [New Thread 11944.0x62a8] [New Thread 11944.0x53e8] [New Thread 11944.0x5970] [New Thread 11944.0x37f0] [New Thread 11944.0x5bd0] [New Thread 11944.0x4884] [New Thread 11944.0x4edc] [New Thread 11944.0x5888] Thread 1 received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x0000000063b52c30 in ?? () (gdb) continue Continuing. Thread 1 received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x0000000063b52c30 in ?? () (gdb) continue Continuing. [Thread 11944.0x54a8 exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x4640 exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x5bec exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x4f90 exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x6f8 exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x61f4 exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x3908 exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x5114 exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x95c exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x2748 exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x48f8 exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x4de8 exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x4700 exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x1eec exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x4ab0 exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x53e8 exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x5bd0 exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x62a8 exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x5970 exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x4668 exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x5580 exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x62cc exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x5888 exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x2f64 exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x4884 exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x37f0 exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x4edc exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x4d04 exited with code 3221225477] [Thread 11944.0x5490 exited with code 3221225477] [Inferior 1 (process 11944) exited with code 030000000005] (gdb) bt full No stack. (gdb) quit -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From brad at fineby.me.uk Sat Sep 22 16:00:36 2018 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 15:00:36 +0100 Subject: [Users] key binding mysteriously changing In-Reply-To: <20180921140928.5c8a3464@numbat> References: <20180921140928.5c8a3464@numbat> Message-ID: <20180922150036.51dc160f@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 14:09:28 -0700 "Derek B. Noonburg" wrote: Hello Derek, >Has anyone seen anything like this? Any suggestions on how to track it >down? I'm not sure what expected behaviour would be if the following isn't set, but I suggest you check that the "Enable customisable keyboard shortcuts" setting in 'Preferences/Other/Miscellaneous' is enabled first. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" This is the fifty first state of the USA Heartland - The The -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 488 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From derekn at foolabs.com Sat Sep 22 18:09:26 2018 From: derekn at foolabs.com (Derek B. Noonburg) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 09:09:26 -0700 Subject: [Users] key binding mysteriously changing In-Reply-To: <20180922150036.51dc160f@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20180921140928.5c8a3464@numbat> <20180922150036.51dc160f@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20180922090926.64ead178@h> On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 15:00:36 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 14:09:28 -0700 > "Derek B. Noonburg" wrote: > > Hello Derek, > > >Has anyone seen anything like this? Any suggestions on how to track > >it down? > > I'm not sure what expected behaviour would be if the following isn't > set, but I suggest you check that the "Enable customisable keyboard > shortcuts" setting in 'Preferences/Other/Miscellaneous' is enabled > first. That's definitely enabled (and I just double-checked). I have a bunch of custom key bindings -- this is the only one that behaves strangely. - Derek From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 22 18:52:28 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 16:52:28 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4095] Provide visual indication for filter rules with move/stop action In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4095 --- Comment #1 from Shai Berger --- The code's term is "final action". There are currently only three of them -- STOP & DELETE, for which "no more processing" seems obvious, and MOVE. Up until 3.16 MARK_AS_SPAM was also a final action, but this has changed in 3.17. This is defined in a function named "filtering_is_final_action()" in the file filtering.c. Given that the set of non-obviously-final actions includes only one action, I think that adding code to visually mark final actions differently is a bit of an overkill. That said, AFAIK the whole issue is not documented anywhere, and adding this documentation might be useful. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 22 19:33:50 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 17:33:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4095] Provide visual indication for filter rules with move/stop action In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4095 --- Comment #2 from Removed after GDPR request --- > I think that adding code to visually mark final actions differently is a bit of an overkill. I don't see why. To me it is an overkill to look at a long line of text (for more complex rules) in which even the action is not visually separated from the condition. A good UI combines function with visuals and currently nothing gives a visual hint about what is done and what is the effect of it (in the context of this whole suggestion) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 22 20:49:40 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 18:49:40 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4095] Provide visual indication for filter rules with move/stop action In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4095 --- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian --- I guess a small red "X" icon, or something similar, next to the rule name could work, especially with a tooltip that says what it means. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 22 21:03:39 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 19:03:39 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4095] Provide visual indication for filter rules with move/stop action In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4095 --- Comment #4 from Removed after GDPR request --- Sounds good. Another thing (in the context of my previous reply): It would be good also to have a visual separation between the action and the condition on the line of the rule. For example: the text of the action can be different color (or bold), e.g. from matchcase "watever at example.com" [*style*]move "...somewhere"[/*style*] Perhaps this should be in a separate bug. Please let me know if I should file one or it can be done at once for both things. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From bugs.michael at gmx.net Sat Sep 22 22:26:45 2018 From: bugs.michael at gmx.net (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 22:26:45 +0200 Subject: [Users] SNI and Google Mail self-signed certificate for IMAP In-Reply-To: <20180922161200.45fcbf8d@penny> References: <20180922153255.4e515ed0@noname> <20180922161200.45fcbf8d@penny> Message-ID: <20180922222645.66d38a0f@noname> On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 16:12:00 +0200, Andrej Kacian wrote: > > Both Claws Mail 3.16.0 and 3.17.1, which don't exhibit the same > > symptoms on Fedora 28, on Fedora 29 only get offered a self-signed > > certificate when contacting Google Mail IMAP using gnutls. > > > > It is not clear to me yet what exactly has changed and whether > > the theory that it is related to SNI is correct. Why would the same > > package be affected only on F29 and not F28? > > > > Is anything known about this yet? > > Perhaps different versions of GnuTLS in each Fedora? You can test the > connection yourself with gnutls-cli or gnutls-cli-debug. Meanwhile, I've taken the time to look under the hood, since the package appeared to be the same, but actually it is built differently based on conditionals that depend on the distribution version. D'oh! %if (0%{?fedora} <= 28) --enable-ssl3-support \ %else --enable-tls13-support \ %endif The issue is reproducible with: gnutls-cli --disable-sni imap.gmail.com:993 From bugs.michael at gmx.net Sat Sep 22 22:43:04 2018 From: bugs.michael at gmx.net (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 22:43:04 +0200 Subject: [Users] SNI and Google Mail self-signed certificate for IMAP In-Reply-To: <20180922222645.66d38a0f@noname> References: <20180922153255.4e515ed0@noname> <20180922161200.45fcbf8d@penny> <20180922222645.66d38a0f@noname> Message-ID: <20180922224304.771d1c1d@noname> Further reading: F29 Self-Contained Change: GnuTLS enables TLS 1.3 by default https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel at lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/4CK56YE3LZ2XESIIIZ6TWPQD32F2QWCH/ From bugs.michael at gmx.net Sun Sep 23 15:09:51 2018 From: bugs.michael at gmx.net (Michael Schwendt) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 15:09:51 +0200 Subject: [Users] SNI and Google Mail self-signed certificate for IMAP In-Reply-To: <20180922224304.771d1c1d@noname> References: <20180922153255.4e515ed0@noname> <20180922161200.45fcbf8d@penny> <20180922222645.66d38a0f@noname> <20180922224304.771d1c1d@noname> Message-ID: <20180923150951.039c474f@noname> > Further reading: > > F29 Self-Contained Change: GnuTLS enables TLS 1.3 by default > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel at lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/4CK56YE3LZ2XESIIIZ6TWPQD32F2QWCH/ > There's also a libetpan feature request for SNI support, albeit for OpenSSL not gnutls. https://github.com/dinhviethoa/libetpan/issues/258 It seems to me that is where the certificate retrieval and checking is done. Claws Mail initializes and uses gnutls separately, however, too. From epodata at gmail.com Sun Sep 23 22:15:48 2018 From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 22:15:48 +0200 Subject: [Users] Question on moving Mailboxes. Message-ID: <20180923221548.0b09b562@Erik-PC.epolan.dk> Due to disk space constraints I am planning to move the various mailboxes to a different file system. I know that I have to change the mailbox adresses in .claws-mail/accountrc to point to the new addresses but in accountrc I have definitions like local_inbox=#mh/Mailbox/inbox and this Mailbox directory does not exist; what does this do? And there other similar definitions that do not exit. Can they be removed? Are there more than mailbox addresses that have to be changed? -- Regards, Erik P. Olsen From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 23 22:25:18 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 20:25:18 -0000 Subject: [Users] Question on moving Mailboxes. In-Reply-To: <20180923221548.0b09b562@Erik-PC.epolan.dk> References: <20180923221548.0b09b562@Erik-PC.epolan.dk> Message-ID: <20180923212518.51c0e6e5@localhost> On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 22:15:48 +0200 "Erik P. Olsen" wrote: > Are there more than mailbox addresses that have to be changed? Stick to using the GUI, whether that is editing account prefs, adding new mailboxes, or whatever. with regards Paul From removed-gdpr at example.com Sun Sep 23 23:50:22 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 00:50:22 +0300 Subject: [Users] Compiling claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180924005022.2c304e5d@localhost> Hi, https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GCC_optimization explains that: > -ftree-vectorize is an optimization option (default > at -O3 and -Ofast), which attempts to vectorize > loops using the selected ISA if possible. The reason > it isn't enabled at -O2 is that it doesn't always > improve code, it can make code slower as well, and > usually makes the code larger; it really depends on > the loop etc. What is the case with Claws Mail? Would the build benefit or suffer from using "-O3" instead of "-O2"? Also: I would like to use a faster machine to create builds for other slower machines (one of them even 32-bit). Do I need anything more than just finding the proper "-march" setting for the target CPU? -- George From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 24 09:31:31 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 07:31:31 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3984] Copy-paste in find/filter field works incorrectly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3984 Colin Leroy changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|FIXED |--- --- Comment #4 from Colin Leroy --- Hi, This fix fixes GTK's internal accelerators for copy-pasting, but breaks the rest of Claws Mail's own mainwindow accelerators when the quicksearch has focus. Now if I search for a mail and need to reply to it, I can't hit Ctrl-R to do so unless I unfocus the quicksearch. I'm not sure if that's a win. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 24 09:47:41 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 07:47:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3984] Copy-paste in find/filter field works incorrectly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3984 --- Comment #5 from Colin Leroy --- Created attachment 1923 --> https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1923&action=edit Fix the fix This patch keeps the nice code cleanup, and fixes the issue I have with it, without apparently breaking anything. What do you think ? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 24 10:16:43 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 08:16:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889 Colin Leroy changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1914|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #20 from Colin Leroy --- Created attachment 1924 --> https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1924&action=edit Updated patch Hi, Update of the previous patch, making main toolbar buttons behave the same as the menu items (both main and popup), so everything works the same: - If the message opened in the messageview is part of the summaryview selection, no change. - Else, skip using the messageview information altogether. Separate messageviews are unaffected of course: their buttons apply to their displayed message. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 24 11:23:35 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 09:23:35 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3984] Copy-paste in find/filter field works incorrectly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3984 --- Comment #6 from Removed after GDPR request --- > This patch keeps the nice code cleanup Could you please advise how to use it? I have learned how to compile using git source code but I don't know how to test patches. Need I manually apply the line changes or is there a command which would allow me to do it? Currently I am running Claws Mail version 3.17.0git59 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From jvromans at squirrel.nl Mon Sep 24 13:26:43 2018 From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 13:26:43 +0200 Subject: [Users] Permanently decrypt an encrypted message Message-ID: <20180924132643.3ebc381b@phoenix.squirrel.nl> Hi, When I receive (PGP)encrypted messages, I need to input my PGP key and then I can read the message. When I close the message, the temporary decryption is gone and the message remains encrypted in the mailbox. While this is good for some messages, it is not necessary for some other messages. Once they survide the trip through the hostile internet and arrive save on my servers they can be decrypted and may be kept decrypted. I've searched the claws and plugins documentation but it seems that this functionality is not provided by claws and/or the PGP plugins. How can I permanently decrypt an encrypted message? -- Johan From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 25 11:30:02 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 09:30:02 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4088] spurious message when starting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4088 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE --- Comment #3 from Paul --- *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 2411 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 25 11:30:02 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 09:30:02 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2411] quicksearch_history content partially written to stdout In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2411 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |pf at pfortin.com --- Comment #5 from Paul --- *** Bug 4088 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 25 11:37:56 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 09:37:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4082] "Edit Accounts" Window defualt size is Too Small In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4082 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|"Edit Accounts" Window Too |"Edit Accounts" Window |Small |defualt size is Too Small -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 25 11:38:15 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 09:38:15 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4082] "Edit Accounts" Window default size is Too Small In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4082 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|"Edit Accounts" Window |"Edit Accounts" Window |defualt size is Too Small |default size is Too Small -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 25 11:43:27 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 09:43:27 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4064] Wrong message is opened in a new window In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4064 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE --- Comment #2 from Paul --- *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 3889 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 25 11:43:27 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 09:43:27 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |kardan at riseup.net --- Comment #21 from Paul --- *** Bug 4064 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 25 11:52:44 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 09:52:44 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889 --- Comment #22 from Michal Suchánek --- (In reply to comment #20) > Created attachment 1924 [details] > Updated patch > > Hi, > > Update of the previous patch, making main toolbar buttons behave the same as > the menu items (both main and popup), so everything works the same: > > - If the message opened in the messageview is part of the summaryview > selection, no change. This is bogus. If more than one message is selected using the messageview info for messages not shown in the messageview will produce the broken results. > - Else, skip using the messageview information altogether. This is also bogus. When a message is shown in the messageview any reply should go to the message in messageview unless very precisely specified otherwise (ie rightclicking a particular message in summary and picking reply from the context menu). As said earlier the selection in summaryview need not be visible due to scrolling but the messageview is always visible. When both are visible the messageview is way more prominent. Skipping the messageview when replying does not make any sense from UI viewpoint. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From linux at slavino.sk Tue Sep 25 20:27:06 2018 From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 20:27:06 +0200 Subject: [Users] Permanently decrypt an encrypted message In-Reply-To: <20180924132643.3ebc381b@phoenix.squirrel.nl> References: <20180924132643.3ebc381b@phoenix.squirrel.nl> Message-ID: <20180925202706.7f50dadc@bonifac.skk> Hi, Dňa Mon, 24 Sep 2018 13:26:43 +0200 Johan Vromans napísal: > When I receive (PGP)encrypted messages, I need to input my PGP key > and then I can read the message. When I close the message, the > temporary decryption is gone and the message remains encrypted in the > mailbox. > > While this is good for some messages, it is not necessary for some > other messages. Once they survide the trip through the hostile > internet and arrive save on my servers they can be decrypted and may > be kept decrypted. I agree with you, that not all messages need to be stored encrypted and option for store decrypted message is missing for me too. I asked this same here some time ago, but without any response. Then i tried to do it by self as action's script. I was able to do this for simple PGP/Inline messages with simple shell script, but there is problem to do the same with PGP/Mime messages. I searched some solution a lot and only tool which i found was mimepgp from http://www.courier-mta.org/sqwebmail/ but i retired it finally. It works, but it produces ugly decrypted messages with custom mime part (X-mimegpg or so) and CM is not able search inside this part... I tried to do own PGP/Mime decrypt's solution in Python. While i was able to get results, i retired this solution too, because i fell as reinventing wheels, because CM must have this part implemented already to show content of decrypted message. Both solutions had one common problem, rewriting message file doesn't remove encrypted icon in CM messages list and i was not able to distinguish between encrypted and already decrypted messages in list. The final solution, which i am using is, that i setup own SMTP server for these messages, which works only with SMTP+STARTTLS (and via 587 only, to prevent mass SPAM attempts) to ensure encrypted messages over net and avoid needing to encrypt each message... While this works well for me, it is not solution for everyone, because it has some DNS and/or static IP requirements. Hope this help you to avoid trying not-working attempts... regards -- Slavko http://slavino.sk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 26 18:06:08 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 16:06:08 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3984] Copy-paste in find/filter field works incorrectly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3984 --- Comment #7 from Colin Leroy --- Hi, Save the patch file, and use: patch -p1 < /path/to/the/patch.file HTH :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From dan_arico at aricosystems.com Wed Sep 26 22:49:59 2018 From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 16:49:59 -0400 Subject: [Users] Ubuntu 18.04 and HTML Message-ID: <20180926164959.090d7388.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> So how do I display HTML email? In the past, I used the fancy plugin, but after I upgraded to 18.04 LTS, I could no longer find it. Dan -- One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them, One OS to bring them all, and in the Darkness bind them, In the land of Redmond, where the Sales Reps lie. From lbickley at bickleywest.com Thu Sep 27 00:15:40 2018 From: lbickley at bickleywest.com (Lyle Bickley) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 15:15:40 -0700 Subject: [Users] Ubuntu 18.04 and HTML In-Reply-To: <20180926164959.090d7388.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> References: <20180926164959.090d7388.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> Message-ID: <20180926151540.12f36ecc@asrock> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 16:49:59 -0400 Dan Arico wrote: > So how do I display HTML email? In the past, I used the fancy plugin, > but after I upgraded to 18.04 LTS, I could no longer find it. Download and install the "Dillo" browser and replace the "fancy" plugin with the "dillo" plugin. Dillo is nowhere near as nice as "fancy" - but it works for http emails. It does not work for https emails. (I tried compiling it from source including the "--enable-ssl" option, but it is alpha code and does not work). Dillo-3.0.5 is the current release and Dillo hasn't been upgraded since June 2015). Lyle NOTE: Dillo source is available at: https://www.dillo.org/ -- 73 NM6Y Bickley Consulting West Inc. http://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero" From rezso at rezso.net Thu Sep 27 00:39:35 2018 From: rezso at rezso.net (=?UTF-8?B?UMOhZGVyIFJlenPFkQ==?=) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 00:39:35 +0200 Subject: [Users] Ubuntu 18.04 and HTML In-Reply-To: <20180926151540.12f36ecc@asrock> References: <20180926164959.090d7388.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20180926151540.12f36ecc@asrock> Message-ID: <20180927003935.786f7d33@rezso> >Dillo-3.0.5 is the current release and Dillo hasn't been upgraded since >June 2015). Try to compile from mercurial source: https://hg.dillo.org/dillo -- R. From ricardo at mones.org Thu Sep 27 00:46:59 2018 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 00:46:59 +0200 Subject: [Users] Ubuntu 18.04 and HTML In-Reply-To: <20180926151540.12f36ecc@asrock> References: <20180926164959.090d7388.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20180926151540.12f36ecc@asrock> Message-ID: <20180926224659.dkaf3hcg54v3ckam@busgosu> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 03:15:40PM -0700, Lyle Bickley wrote: > On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 16:49:59 -0400 > Dan Arico wrote: > > > So how do I display HTML email? In the past, I used the fancy plugin, > > but after I upgraded to 18.04 LTS, I could no longer find it. > > Download and install the "Dillo" browser and replace the "fancy" plugin > with the "dillo" plugin. There was no dillo plugin in that release, Ubuntu has no package for it. It may be possible to build the fancy plugin from source, depends on the development libraries available on that Ubuntu release. > Dillo is nowhere near as nice as "fancy" - but it works for http > emails. It does not work for https emails. (I tried compiling it from > source including the "--enable-ssl" option, but it is alpha code and > does not work). Email HTML parts are saved in local files, which are shown by dillo. You don't need neither https nor http protocols to read them. best regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ Don't take the name of root in vain. /usr/src/linux/README -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: not available URL: From lbickley at bickleywest.com Thu Sep 27 03:11:28 2018 From: lbickley at bickleywest.com (Lyle Bickley) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 18:11:28 -0700 Subject: [Users] Ubuntu 18.04 and HTML In-Reply-To: <20180926224659.dkaf3hcg54v3ckam@busgosu> References: <20180926164959.090d7388.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20180926151540.12f36ecc@asrock> <20180926224659.dkaf3hcg54v3ckam@busgosu> Message-ID: <20180926181128.6ec14e3a@asrock> Hi Ricardo, I wish that was always true, but alas it's not. Here's what happens if an emails contains an embedded uses of ssl, such as: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/04/jpmorgan-says-next-crisis-will-feature-flash-crashes-and-social-unrest.html In this case Dillo responds with: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The https dpi was unable to send the following HTTP query: GET /2018/09/04/jpmorgan-says-next-crisis-will-feature-flash-crashes-and-social-unrest.html HTTP/1.1 Host: www.cnbc.com User-Agent: Dillo/3.0.5 Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate DNT: 1 Referer: https://www.cnbc.com/ Connection: close because Dillo's prototype plugin for https support is disabled. If you want to test this alpha support code, just reconfigure with --enable-ssl, recompile and reinstall. (Beware that this https support is very limited now) To use https and SSL, you must have the OpenSSL development libraries installed. Check your O/S distribution provider, or check out www.openssl.org. Sent from the CNBC App. Available on Google Play - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I did configure Dillo with --enable-ssl - but it fails to compile correctly. I'll try the https://hg.dillo.org/dillo patch to 3.0.5 suggested by Páder Rezső and will see if that works and will post the results... Cheers, Lyle -- On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 00:46:59 +0200 Ricardo Mones wrote: > On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 03:15:40PM -0700, Lyle Bickley wrote: > > On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 16:49:59 -0400 > > Dan Arico wrote: > > > > > So how do I display HTML email? In the past, I used the fancy > > > plugin, but after I upgraded to 18.04 LTS, I could no longer find > > > it. > > > > Download and install the "Dillo" browser and replace the "fancy" > > plugin with the "dillo" plugin. > > There was no dillo plugin in that release, Ubuntu has no package for > it. > > It may be possible to build the fancy plugin from source, depends on > the development libraries available on that Ubuntu release. > > > Dillo is nowhere near as nice as "fancy" - but it works for http > > emails. It does not work for https emails. (I tried compiling it > > from source including the "--enable-ssl" option, but it is alpha > > code and does not work). > > Email HTML parts are saved in local files, which are shown by dillo. > You don't need neither https nor http protocols to read them. > > best regards, -- 73 NM6Y Bickley Consulting West Inc. http://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero" From silver.bullet at zoho.com Thu Sep 27 03:54:08 2018 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 03:54:08 +0200 Subject: [Users] Ubuntu 18.04 and HTML In-Reply-To: <20180926224659.dkaf3hcg54v3ckam@busgosu> References: <20180926164959.090d7388.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20180926151540.12f36ecc@asrock> <20180926224659.dkaf3hcg54v3ckam@busgosu> Message-ID: <20180927035408.18a83796@utnubu> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 00:46:59 +0200, Ricardo Mones wrote: >It may be possible to build the fancy plugin from source, depends on >the development libraries available on that Ubuntu release. The runtime dependencies are still available, so the packages containing the header files must be available, too. However, it gains absolutely nothing to build software based on vulnerable software. It's the universe repository that still provides the insecure and deprecated webkitgtk. This repository is community-maintained, it's not supported by Canonical. From lbickley at bickleywest.com Thu Sep 27 04:00:30 2018 From: lbickley at bickleywest.com (Lyle Bickley) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:00:30 -0700 Subject: [Users] Ubuntu 18.04 and HTML In-Reply-To: <20180927003935.786f7d33@rezso> References: <20180926164959.090d7388.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20180926151540.12f36ecc@asrock> <20180927003935.786f7d33@rezso> Message-ID: <20180926190030.329b66c2@asrock> Hi Páder, On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 00:39:35 +0200 Páder Rezső wrote: > >Dillo-3.0.5 is the current release and Dillo hasn't been upgraded > >since June 2015). > > Try to compile from mercurial source: > https://hg.dillo.org/dillo Thanks for the suggestion. Patched Dillo-3.0.5 with the ssl update from mercurial, recompiled Dillo with "./configure --enable-ssl", installed dillo, restarted claws - and unfortunately "no joy". Same error occurs. Bummer... Cheers, Lyle -- 73 NM6Y Bickley Consulting West Inc. http://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero" From mir at miras.org Thu Sep 27 07:40:04 2018 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 07:40:04 +0200 Subject: [Users] Ubuntu 18.04 and HTML In-Reply-To: <20180926224659.dkaf3hcg54v3ckam@busgosu> References: <20180926164959.090d7388.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20180926151540.12f36ecc@asrock> <20180926224659.dkaf3hcg54v3ckam@busgosu> Message-ID: <20180927074004.60d050fe@sleipner.datanom.net> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 00:46:59 +0200 Ricardo Mones wrote: > > Email HTML parts are saved in local files, which are shown by dillo. > You don't need neither https nor http protocols to read them. > That is not true since a html page can contain parts which is fetched at runtime through a http(s) link. Think of images, js, css, and text parts. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: Bill Dickey is learning me his experience. -- Yogi Berra in his rookie season. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 488 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 27 09:40:14 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 07:40:14 -0000 Subject: [Users] Ubuntu 18.04 and HTML In-Reply-To: <20180927074004.60d050fe@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20180926164959.090d7388.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20180926151540.12f36ecc@asrock> <20180926224659.dkaf3hcg54v3ckam@busgosu> <20180927074004.60d050fe@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20180927083957.2e86a217@localhost> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 07:40:04 +0200 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 00:46:59 +0200 > Ricardo Mones wrote: > > > > > Email HTML parts are saved in local files, which are shown by > > dillo. You don't need neither https nor http protocols to read > > them. > That is not true since a html page can contain parts which is > fetched at runtime through a http(s) link. Think of images, js, > css, and text parts. I agree with Ricardo's view. You really don't need https or http to read them. However, the html messages might try to load remote content and, obviously, these are served via https or http. As everyone knows, remote content makes html messages a potential security risk, etc. Not loading remote content does not stop you from reading html messages, except perhaps the very worst examples where everything is remote. with regards Paul From pqsp at disroot.org Thu Sep 27 09:54:49 2018 From: pqsp at disroot.org (pq) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 02:54:49 -0500 Subject: [Users] mh folders unexpected behavior Message-ID: <20180927075453.E7E48345F6@disroot.org> I have multiple POP accounts with a MH folder for each one. When I compose a new email, for any account, always the email is saved on the SEND subfolder of the MH folder that fall into to first mailbox . This behavior is unexpected, cuz when I wrote a email on a account X, i expected that this email saves on the same MH folder. Same problem with draft email. How to resolve this behavior? --- pq From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 27 10:22:55 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 08:22:55 -0000 Subject: [Users] mh folders unexpected behavior In-Reply-To: <20180927075453.E7E48345F6@disroot.org> References: <20180927075453.E7E48345F6@disroot.org> Message-ID: <20180927092255.2e85be2a@localhost> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 02:54:49 -0500 pq wrote: > I have multiple POP accounts with a MH folder for each one. > When I compose a new email, for any account, always the email is > saved on the SEND subfolder of the MH folder that fall into to > first mailbox . This behavior is unexpected, cuz when I wrote a > email on a account X, i expected that this email saves on the same > MH folder. Same problem with draft email. How to resolve this > behavior? MH mailboxes are POP accounts. Several POP accounts can share a single MH mailbox. You resolve your issue by using the Account preferences to set the special folders. For example, I use several POP accounts and one MH mailbox. I've made sub-folders in Sent, Inbox, etc, which correspond (via account prefs) to the POP accounts. with regards Paul From ticho at claws-mail.org Thu Sep 27 10:27:48 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 10:27:48 +0200 Subject: [Users] mh folders unexpected behavior In-Reply-To: <20180927075453.E7E48345F6@disroot.org> References: <20180927075453.E7E48345F6@disroot.org> Message-ID: <20180927102748.4528747c@penny> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 02:54:49 -0500 pq wrote: > I have multiple POP accounts with a MH folder for each one. > When I compose a new email, for any account, always the email is saved > on the SEND subfolder of the MH folder that fall into to first mailbox . > This behavior is unexpected, cuz when I wrote a email on a account X, i > expected that this email saves on the same MH folder. Same problem > with draft email. How to resolve this behavior? MH folders are not associated with POP3 accounts by default. Unless you configure your POP3 account(s) to use particular folders for drafts/queue/trash/sent, Claws Mail will use first folder of correct type it finds. Regards, -- Andrej From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 27 10:47:00 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 08:47:00 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889 Colin Leroy changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1913|0 |1 is obsolete| | Attachment #1924|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #23 from Colin Leroy --- Created attachment 1925 --> https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1925&action=edit Another better patch Following more IRC chat, I think we can say that: WE HAVE: Message A is displayed, message A is selected Mainwindow replies => To message A Toolbar replies => To message A SummaryPopup on message A replies => To message A SummaryPopup on other message replies => To message A (IT SHOULDN'T) Message A is displayed, messages A B C are selected Mainwindow replies => To A, B, C Toolbar replies => To A, B, C SummaryPopup on message A, B or C replies => To A, B, C SummaryPopup on other message (D) replies => To message A (IT SHOULDN'T) Message A is displayed, but one other only, B, is selected Mainwindow replies => to message A with some corner-case bug in address selection (https://www.colino.net/tmp/reply.ogv) Toolbar replies => to message A with some corner-case bug in address selection (https://www.colino.net/tmp/reply.ogv) SummaryPopup on message A replies => to message A with some corner-case bug in address selection (https://www.colino.net/tmp/reply.ogv) SummaryPopup on message B replies => to message A, with message B To address (IT SHOULDN'T) SummaryPopup on other message (D) replies => to message A, with message D To address (IT SHOULDN'T) Message A is displayed, but others only (B C D) are selected Mainwindow replies => to selected messages B C D Toolbar replies => to selected messages B C D SummaryPopup on one of the selected messages replies => B C D SummaryPopup on another message (E) replies => to message A, with message E To address (IT SHOULDN'T) WE WANT: Message A is displayed, message A is selected Mainwindow replies => To message A Toolbar replies => To message A SummaryPopup on message A replies => To message A SummaryPopup on other message B (selects B) replies => To message B Message A is displayed, messages A B C are selected Mainwindow replies => To A, B, C Toolbar replies => To A, B, C SummaryPopup on message A, B or C replies => To A, B, C SummaryPopup on other message (D) (selects D) replies => To message D Message A is displayed, but one other only, B, is selected Mainwindow replies => to message A Toolbar replies => to message A SummaryPopup on message A (selects A) replies => to message A SummaryPopup on message B replies => to message B SummaryPopup on other message (D) (selects D) replies => to message D Message A is displayed, but others only (B C D) are selected Mainwindow replies => to message A Toolbar replies => to message A SummaryPopup on one of the selected messages replies => B C D SummaryPopup on another message (E) (selects E) replies => to message E This doesn't describe precisely the "only quote selected part of the mail" feature, nor the "reply to attached message/rfc822 when it is the currently selected part" feature, which don't change and only applies when we reply to displayed message A and only message A is selected. The attached patch implements that "WE WANT" part. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From lb at laurentbloch.org Thu Sep 27 15:34:59 2018 From: lb at laurentbloch.org (Laurent Bloch) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 15:34:59 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to generate UID's for address books Message-ID: <20180927153459.44bcae41@olga> Hi, In order to register my students in my Claws-Mail address book, I would like to write a program to read a CSV file with the names and e-mail addresses of the students, and to write a LDIF file which I could give to Claws-Mail (the CSV file is given to me by the administrative guys of the university). When looking at the Claws-Mail address-books, I see that each entity has a unique UID (person, member, maybe etc.). My question is: how to generate a valid UID for the entities I will create, I suppose essentially persons (I will create groups later by the Claws-Mail interface)? Thanks for any hint. Cheers! -- Laurent Bloch - https://www.laurentbloch.net - lb at laurentbloch.org Si vous trouvez que l'éducation coûte cher, essayez l'ignorance ! (A. Lincoln) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 488 bytes Desc: Signature digitale OpenPGP URL: From lfiskgr at gmail.com Thu Sep 27 15:47:23 2018 From: lfiskgr at gmail.com (Leon Fisk) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 09:47:23 -0400 Subject: [Users] How to generate UID's for address books In-Reply-To: <20180927153459.44bcae41@olga> References: <20180927153459.44bcae41@olga> Message-ID: <5bacdf6c.1c69fb81.0332.8a06@mx.google.com> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 15:34:59 +0200 Laurent Bloch wrote: >Hi, > >In order to register my students in my Claws-Mail address book, >I would like to write a program to read a CSV file with the names >and e-mail addresses of the students, and to write a LDIF file >which I could give to Claws-Mail (the CSV file is given to me >by the administrative guys of the university). This doesn't exactly answer your question, but have you looked at the tools here: https://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php?section=downloads A long time ago I used the "csv2addressbook.pl" to convert my a CSV file with my addresses for use with Claws. If I remember correctly I had to make a few mods but nothing all that difficult... -- Leon Claws 3.16.0, Ubuntu Lucid From removed-gdpr at example.com Thu Sep 27 17:49:09 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 18:49:09 +0300 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180914112208.4e942424@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180913222848.07c0d2b3@mike> <20180914112208.4e942424@localhost> Message-ID: <20180927184909.1e5d3e65@localhost> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 11:22:08 +0300 Removed GDPR wrote: > On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 22:28:48 +0200 Colin Leroy-Mira > wrote: > > > I'm sorry, we don't have any weight over our > > hosting provider's peerings... > > Have you at least notified them about the issue? I > don't expect it will get self fixed as it hasn't so > far. Any feedback please? FWIW: My ISP switched me to 1 Gbps (and I do have very fast connection speed to many countries), still this crawls at 15-25 KiB/s. -- George From pqsp at disroot.org Thu Sep 27 18:40:31 2018 From: pqsp at disroot.org (pq) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 11:40:31 -0500 Subject: [Users] mh folders unexpected behavior In-Reply-To: <20180927092255.2e85be2a@localhost> References: <20180927075453.E7E48345F6@disroot.org> <20180927092255.2e85be2a@localhost> Message-ID: <20180927164035.C0A2F34630@disroot.org> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 08:22:55 -0000 Paul wrote: > On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 02:54:49 -0500 > pq wrote: > > > I have multiple POP accounts with a MH folder for each one. > > When I compose a new email, for any account, always the email is > > saved on the SEND subfolder of the MH folder that fall into to > > first mailbox . This behavior is unexpected, cuz when I wrote a > > email on a account X, i expected that this email saves on the same > > MH folder. Same problem with draft email. How to resolve this > > behavior? > > MH mailboxes are POP accounts. Several POP accounts can share a > single MH mailbox. > > You resolve your issue by using the Account preferences to set the > special folders. > > For example, I use several POP accounts and one MH mailbox. I've made > sub-folders in Sent, Inbox, etc, which correspond (via account prefs) > to the POP accounts. > > with regards > > Paul Thanks for all answers, I found the option for POP3 account(s) to use particular folders for drafts/queue/trash/sent. It's on Properties > Advanced. Regards --- pq From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 27 19:20:06 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 17:20:06 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3984] Copy-paste in find/filter field works incorrectly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3984 --- Comment #8 from Removed after GDPR request --- Hi Colin, I see this was commited to git. I could try it out. Your fix seems to work fine. Thanks! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From lb at laurentbloch.org Thu Sep 27 21:39:12 2018 From: lb at laurentbloch.org (Laurent Bloch) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 21:39:12 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to generate UID's for address books In-Reply-To: <5bacdf6c.1c69fb81.0332.8a06@mx.google.com> References: <20180927153459.44bcae41@olga> <5bacdf6c.1c69fb81.0332.8a06@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <20180927213912.477e3e10@tsvetaeva> Thank you for your help, Leon. While reading the Perl program I understood that the UID was just the date in seconds since 1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC. I hope Claws-Mail will be happy with that! Good evening (if you are in Europe :-) Le jeudi 27 septembre 2018 Leon Fisk a écrit ceci : > On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 15:34:59 +0200 > Laurent Bloch wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >In order to register my students in my Claws-Mail address book, > >I would like to write a program to read a CSV file with the names > >and e-mail addresses of the students, and to write a LDIF file > >which I could give to Claws-Mail (the CSV file is given to me > >by the administrative guys of the university). > > > > This doesn't exactly answer your question, but have you looked at the > tools here: > > https://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php?section=downloads > > A long time ago I used the "csv2addressbook.pl" to convert my a CSV > file with my addresses for use with Claws. If I remember correctly I had > to make a few mods but nothing all that difficult... > > -- > Leon > Claws 3.16.0, Ubuntu Lucid > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > https://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users -- Laurent Bloch - https://laurentbloch.net - lb at laurentbloch.org Si vous trouvez que l'éducation coûte cher, essayez l'ignorance ! (A. Lincoln) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 488 bytes Desc: Signature digitale OpenPGP URL: From subscript at free.fr Fri Sep 28 00:15:43 2018 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 00:15:43 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to generate UID's for address books In-Reply-To: <20180927213912.477e3e10@tsvetaeva> References: <20180927153459.44bcae41@olga> <5bacdf6c.1c69fb81.0332.8a06@mx.google.com> <20180927213912.477e3e10@tsvetaeva> Message-ID: <20180928001543.58de3ba3@ladybug> Hello Laurent, On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 21:39:12 +0200 Laurent Bloch wrote: > Thank you for your help, Leon. While reading the Perl program > I understood that the UID was just the date in seconds since 1970-01-01 > 00:00:00 UTC. I hope Claws-Mail will be happy with that! > > Good evening (if you are in Europe :-) Any UID, as in any unique identifier (unsigned int). Just make sure the number is unique, pick a random one if you want; the date in seconds since epoch is a good pick non-random one but be sure you're not creating several ones during the same second ;-). Regards, > Le jeudi 27 septembre 2018 Leon Fisk a écrit ceci : > > > On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 15:34:59 +0200 > > Laurent Bloch wrote: > > > > >Hi, > > > > > >In order to register my students in my Claws-Mail address book, > > >I would like to write a program to read a CSV file with the names > > >and e-mail addresses of the students, and to write a LDIF file > > >which I could give to Claws-Mail (the CSV file is given to me > > >by the administrative guys of the university). > > > > > > > > This doesn't exactly answer your question, but have you looked at the > > tools here: > > > > https://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php?section=downloads > > > > A long time ago I used the "csv2addressbook.pl" to convert my a CSV > > file with my addresses for use with Claws. If I remember correctly I had > > to make a few mods but nothing all that difficult... > > > > -- > > Leon > > Claws 3.16.0, Ubuntu Lucid > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > > https://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From lb at laurentbloch.org Fri Sep 28 00:23:25 2018 From: lb at laurentbloch.org (Laurent Bloch) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 00:23:25 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to generate UID's for address books In-Reply-To: <20180928001543.58de3ba3@ladybug> References: <20180927153459.44bcae41@olga> <5bacdf6c.1c69fb81.0332.8a06@mx.google.com> <20180927213912.477e3e10@tsvetaeva> <20180928001543.58de3ba3@ladybug> Message-ID: <20180928002325.63672de6@tsvetaeva> Le vendredi 28 septembre 2018 wwp a écrit ceci : > Hello Laurent, > > Any UID, as in any unique identifier (unsigned int). Just make sure > the number is unique, pick a random one if you want; the date in > seconds since epoch is a good pick non-random one but be sure you're > not creating several ones during the same second ;-). Uh uh, you are right, I'll add a delay :-( Regards! -- Laurent Bloch - https://laurentbloch.net - lb at laurentbloch.org Si vous trouvez que l'éducation coûte cher, essayez l'ignorance ! (A. Lincoln) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 488 bytes Desc: Signature digitale OpenPGP URL: From rol at witbe.net Fri Sep 28 03:04:02 2018 From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=)) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 03:04:02 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to generate UID's for address books In-Reply-To: <20180928002325.63672de6@tsvetaeva> References: <20180927153459.44bcae41@olga> <5bacdf6c.1c69fb81.0332.8a06@mx.google.com> <20180927213912.477e3e10@tsvetaeva> <20180928001543.58de3ba3@ladybug> <20180928002325.63672de6@tsvetaeva> Message-ID: <20180928030402.692c5f77@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Hello, On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 00:23:25 +0200 Laurent Bloch wrote: > Le vendredi 28 septembre 2018 wwp a écrit ceci : > > > Hello Laurent, > > > > Any UID, as in any unique identifier (unsigned int). Just make sure > > the number is unique, pick a random one if you want; the date in > > seconds since epoch is a good pick non-random one but be sure you're > > not creating several ones during the same second ;-). > > Uh uh, you are right, I'll add a delay :-( If you just need an (unsigned int), make it a counter ;) No need to wait while delays are ...delaying ! Paul -- Paul Rolland E-Mail : rol(at)witbe.net CTO - Witbe.net SA Tel. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 77 Les Collines de l'Arche Fax. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 99 F-92057 Paris La Defense RIPE : PR12-RIPE LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulrolland Skype : rollandpaul "I worry about my child and the Internet all the time, even though she's too young to have logged on yet. Here's what I worry about. 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From ricardo at mones.org Fri Sep 28 09:18:35 2018 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 09:18:35 +0200 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180927184909.1e5d3e65@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180913222848.07c0d2b3@mike> <20180914112208.4e942424@localhost> <20180927184909.1e5d3e65@localhost> Message-ID: <20180928071835.m2iocr3kciydy6gu@busgosu> On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 06:49:09PM +0300, Removed GDPR wrote: > On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 11:22:08 +0300 Removed GDPR wrote: > > > On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 22:28:48 +0200 Colin Leroy-Mira > > wrote: > > > > > I'm sorry, we don't have any weight over our > > > hosting provider's peerings... > > > > Have you at least notified them about the issue? I > > don't expect it will get self fixed as it hasn't so > > far. > > Any feedback please? > > FWIW: My ISP switched me to 1 Gbps (and I do have very > fast connection speed to many countries), still this > crawls at 15-25 KiB/s. Not sure why you're still cloning, which seems to be slow by default¹, and can be even slower using http (as announced²). Are you trying to prove something or what is this cloning for? Once you have a clone you only have to fetch or pull the changes, and this is usually several orders of magnitude faster. As Colin stated we don't have any control over this and notifying the provider won't achieve anything, besides perhaps some laugh in their tech department. best regards, ¹ https://www.google.es/search?q=git+clone+slow ² https://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=summary -- Ricardo Mones ~ bash: ./signature: No such file or directory /bin/bash -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Are you trying to > prove something or what is this cloning for? > > Once you have a clone you only have to fetch or pull the changes, and > this is usually several orders of magnitude faster. You could also use (or setup if you'd rather have control) a git mirror like Olaf Hering's https://github.com/olafhering/claws HTH, -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 28 10:20:06 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 08:20:06 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4097] New: Ability to reply to multiple messages in one message Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4097 Bug ID: 4097 Summary: Ability to reply to multiple messages in one message Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.17.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: UI/Actions Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: msuchanek at suse.de When multiple messages are selected in summary view and reply is invoked claws opens a reply window for each message selected. This is not very useful - if you are going to write a reply to the message anyway you can just select it separately before relying. However, opening one reply window quoting all the selected messages would be quite useful. Also the recipients should be collected from all messages according to reply/reply-all/reply-list. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 28 10:41:23 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 08:41:23 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4097] Ability to reply to multiple messages in one message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4097 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|UI/Actions |Other -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 28 10:49:41 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 08:49:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3889] address and quoted message inconsistent in reply In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3889 Ricardo Mones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #25 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2018-09-28 10:35:04.733301259 +0200 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b0970f01e48727d53915965ae42c27368874b69 Merge: 3d2d178 5d3761f Author: Colin Leroy Date: Fri Sep 28 10:35:03 2018 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=5d3761fe8f2dafd4eb30fd9322b00f5e6bdbaf4f Author: Colin Leroy Date: Fri Sep 28 10:33:20 2018 +0200 Fix bug #3889. * Fix right-click replying to messages in summaryview * Fix corner-case when selected and opened messages are different, and one of them is to a mailing-list. http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=d15c76ad8978cea678fe5a262b558e6eda2753be Author: Colin Leroy Date: Fri Sep 28 10:29:27 2018 +0200 Fix possible null-dereference (thanks Coverity) --- Comment #26 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2018-09-28 10:46:03.843470201 +0200 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=e758e47ef9aadef1a8b38d38891f0fe737b74575 Merge: 9b0970f d285bdf Author: Colin Leroy Date: Fri Sep 28 10:46:02 2018 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=d285bdfc245a9e9ed8dc12a4ff8539dd21544d82 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Fri Sep 28 10:33:20 2018 +0200 Fix bug #3889, "Address and quoted message inconsistent in reply" * Fix right-click replying to messages in summaryview * Fix corner-case when selected and opened messages are different, and one of them is to a mailing-list. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 28 10:58:56 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 08:58:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4097] Ability to reply to multiple messages in one message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4097 Ricardo Mones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones --- *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 1450 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 28 10:58:57 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 08:58:57 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 1450] ability to merge replies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1450 Ricardo Mones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |msuchanek at suse.de --- Comment #4 from Ricardo Mones --- *** Bug 4097 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 28 11:48:56 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 09:48:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4007] PGP/MIME email subject and header encryption / "memory hole" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4007 --- Comment #1 from nin at suremail.info --- Yes, please add support for "memory hole". I think the specs can be found now under: https://github.com/autocrypt/memoryhole -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 28 12:27:16 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 10:27:16 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 4007] PGP/MIME email subject and header encryption / "memory hole" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4007 --- Comment #2 from kardan at riseup.net --- It has an incomplete version. Please reach out to #autocrypt. https://github.com/autocrypt/memoryhole/issues/9 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Sep 28 13:22:19 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 14:22:19 +0300 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180928092617.28983f45@colin.i-run.lau> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180913222848.07c0d2b3@mike> <20180914112208.4e942424@localhost> <20180927184909.1e5d3e65@localhost> <20180928071835.m2iocr3kciydy6gu@busgosu> <20180928092617.28983f45@colin.i-run.lau> Message-ID: <20180928142219.56c5a547@localhost> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 09:18:35 +0200 Ricardo Mones wrote: > Not sure why you're still cloning, which seems to be > slow by default¹, and can be even slower using http > (as announced²). Makes no sense. It wasn't slow before and it is not slow from another continent as I explained in earlier messages. I am cloning: git://git.claws-mail.org/claws.git which I suppose means that I am not using http. Also when I clone things from GitHub I get very high speeds. Just an example: [/tmp/download]: git clone https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/firefox-ios.git Cloning into 'firefox-ios'... remote: Enumerating objects: 78, done. remote: Counting objects: 100% (78/78), done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (64/64), done. Receiving objects: 67% (60910/89738), 305.23 MiB | 25.33 MiB/s So I don't see why cloning should be slow by default. > Are you trying to prove something or what is this > cloning for? To get the latest source code when I don't have a local copy of it. (I build CM on more than one computer and I don't always store long term the source) > Once you have a clone you only have to fetch or pull > the changes, and this is usually several orders of > magnitude faster. Sure but this is a workaround. It doesn't remove the central issue. > As Colin stated we don't have any control over this > and notifying the provider won't achieve anything, > besides perhaps some laugh in their tech department. Nobody has laughed at me when I had similar issues with my own web hosting in the past. On the contrary - the hosting provider contacted their upstream providers which fixed things. It usually took them a few hours at most. On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 09:26:17 +0200 Colin Leroy-Mira wrote: > You could also use (or setup if you'd rather have > control) a git mirror like Olaf Hering's > https://github.com/olafhering/claws Thanks for sharing this one. -- George From colin at colino.net Fri Sep 28 13:33:51 2018 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy-Mira) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 13:33:51 +0200 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180928142219.56c5a547@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180913222848.07c0d2b3@mike> <20180914112208.4e942424@localhost> <20180927184909.1e5d3e65@localhost> <20180928071835.m2iocr3kciydy6gu@busgosu> <20180928092617.28983f45@colin.i-run.lau> <20180928142219.56c5a547@localhost> Message-ID: <20180928133351.40345c8f@colin.i-run.lau> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 14:22:19 +0300, Removed GDPR wrote: > Nobody has laughed at me when I had similar issues > with my own web hosting in the past. On the contrary - > the hosting provider contacted their upstream providers > which fixed things. It usually took them a few hours > at most. Please provide a traceroute result, and let me show you their reply. -- Colin From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Sep 28 13:49:52 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 14:49:52 +0300 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180928133351.40345c8f@colin.i-run.lau> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180913222848.07c0d2b3@mike> <20180914112208.4e942424@localhost> <20180927184909.1e5d3e65@localhost> <20180928071835.m2iocr3kciydy6gu@busgosu> <20180928092617.28983f45@colin.i-run.lau> <20180928142219.56c5a547@localhost> <20180928133351.40345c8f@colin.i-run.lau> Message-ID: <20180928144952.4504f57e@localhost> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 13:33:51 +0200 Colin Leroy-Mira wrote: > Please provide a traceroute result, and let me show > you their reply. I have sent it to you as a personal message. I prefer not to have traceroutes in public mailing list archives. Thank you for your understanding. -- George From subscript at free.fr Fri Sep 28 14:00:51 2018 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 14:00:51 +0200 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180928142219.56c5a547@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180913222848.07c0d2b3@mike> <20180914112208.4e942424@localhost> <20180927184909.1e5d3e65@localhost> <20180928071835.m2iocr3kciydy6gu@busgosu> <20180928092617.28983f45@colin.i-run.lau> <20180928142219.56c5a547@localhost> Message-ID: <20180928140051.1025859e@ladybug> Hello George, On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 14:22:19 +0300 Removed GDPR wrote: > [/tmp/download]: git clone https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/firefox-ios.git > Cloning into 'firefox-ios'... > remote: Enumerating objects: 78, done. > remote: Counting objects: 100% (78/78), done. > remote: Compressing objects: 100% (64/64), done. > Receiving objects: 67% (60910/89738), 305.23 MiB | 25.33 MiB/s > > So I don't see why cloning should be slow by default. Pff. And you're complaining about cloning speed? ;-) git clone https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/firefox-ios.git Cloning into 'firefox-ios'... remote: Enumerating objects: 78, done. remote: Counting objects: 100% (78/78), done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (64/64), done. Receiving objects: 71% (64392/89738), 372.47 MiB | 2.35 MiB/s Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From ticho at claws-mail.org Fri Sep 28 14:09:12 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 14:09:12 +0200 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> Message-ID: <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 23:22:35 +0300 Removed GDPR wrote: > On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 16:48:40 -0000 Paul wrote: > > > Patience? > > My first message is from 31.Aug (1 week after I > noticed the issue). This makes it 3 weeks total. I > think it would be unfair of you to say that I have > been impatient :) > > On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 19:10:31 +0200 wwp wrote: > > > Also maybe.. money! To host it somewhere else, > > faster, and to afford spending time on it? Money is > > time and vice-versa (in this world). > > Cloning from a US host gives me 3.5Mb/s - the speed > which I could get from EU 2-3 weeks ago. It seems to > me a routing issue. A financial one (e.g. a slower > hosting plan) would result in slowness from everywhere > all the time. What if you download a file, e.g. a release tarball, over http(s) from www.claws-mail.org? Does it go slow also? Regards, -- Andrej From colin at colino.net Fri Sep 28 14:09:49 2018 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy-Mira) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 14:09:49 +0200 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180928144952.4504f57e@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180913222848.07c0d2b3@mike> <20180914112208.4e942424@localhost> <20180927184909.1e5d3e65@localhost> <20180928071835.m2iocr3kciydy6gu@busgosu> <20180928092617.28983f45@colin.i-run.lau> <20180928142219.56c5a547@localhost> <20180928133351.40345c8f@colin.i-run.lau> <20180928144952.4504f57e@localhost> Message-ID: <20180928140949.3bf30c1b@colin.i-run.lau> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 14:49:52 +0300, Removed GDPR wrote: > > Please provide a traceroute result, and let me show > > you their reply. > > I have sent it to you as a personal message. I prefer > not to have traceroutes in public mailing list > archives. I didn't get it, though... -- Colin From colin at colino.net Fri Sep 28 14:24:49 2018 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy-Mira) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 14:24:49 +0200 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180928140949.3bf30c1b@colin.i-run.lau> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180913222848.07c0d2b3@mike> <20180914112208.4e942424@localhost> <20180927184909.1e5d3e65@localhost> <20180928071835.m2iocr3kciydy6gu@busgosu> <20180928092617.28983f45@colin.i-run.lau> <20180928142219.56c5a547@localhost> <20180928133351.40345c8f@colin.i-run.lau> <20180928144952.4504f57e@localhost> <20180928140949.3bf30c1b@colin.i-run.lau> Message-ID: <20180928142449.3c29f724@colin.i-run.lau> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 14:09:49 +0200, Colin Leroy-Mira wrote: > rsonal message. I prefer > > not to have traceroutes in public mailing list > > archives. > > I didn't get it, though... I did :) -- Colin From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Sep 28 14:31:02 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 15:31:02 +0300 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180928140051.1025859e@ladybug> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180913222848.07c0d2b3@mike> <20180914112208.4e942424@localhost> <20180927184909.1e5d3e65@localhost> <20180928071835.m2iocr3kciydy6gu@busgosu> <20180928092617.28983f45@colin.i-run.lau> <20180928142219.56c5a547@localhost> <20180928140051.1025859e@ladybug> Message-ID: <20180928153102.6316c6d9@localhost> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 14:00:51 +0200 wwp wrote: > Pff. And you're complaining about cloning speed? ;-) Yes, because with Claws Mail it is quite different: [/tmp/download]: git clone git://git.claws-mail.org/claws.git Cloning into 'claws'... remote: Counting objects: 108240, done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (17957/17957), done. Receiving objects: 2% (2165/108240), 444.00 KiB | 30.00 KiB/s -- George From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Sep 28 14:33:25 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 15:33:25 +0300 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> Message-ID: <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 14:09:12 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > What if you download a file, e.g. a release tarball, > over http(s) from www.claws-mail.org? Does it go > slow also? Yes: [/tmp/download]: wget https://www.claws-mail.org/download.php?file=releases/claws-mail-3.17.1.tar.gz --2018-09-28 15:32:00-- https://www.claws-mail.org/download.php?file=releases/claws-mail-3.17.1.tar.gz Resolving www.claws-mail.org (www.claws-mail.org)... 163.172.88.172 Connecting to www.claws-mail.org (www.claws-mail.org)|163.172.88.172|:443... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found Location: http://www.claws-mail.org//releases/claws-mail-3.17.1.tar.gz [following] --2018-09-28 15:32:00-- http://www.claws-mail.org//releases/claws-mail-3.17.1.tar.gz Connecting to www.claws-mail.org (www.claws-mail.org)|163.172.88.172|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently Location: https://www.claws-mail.org/releases/claws-mail-3.17.1.tar.gz [following] --2018-09-28 15:32:01-- https://www.claws-mail.org/releases/claws-mail-3.17.1.tar.gz Connecting to www.claws-mail.org (www.claws-mail.org)|163.172.88.172|:443... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 10171803 (9.7M) [application/x-gzip] Saving to: ‘download.php?file=releases%2Fclaws-mail-3.17.1.tar.gz’ hp?file=releases%2Fcla 3%[> ] 391.74K 26.9KB/s eta 5m 53s -- George From iwkse at claws-mail.org Fri Sep 28 17:15:30 2018 From: iwkse at claws-mail.org (Salvatore De Paolis) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 17:15:30 +0200 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> Message-ID: <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> Hi George, On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 15:33:25 +0300 Removed GDPR wrote: > On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 14:09:12 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > > > What if you download a file, e.g. a release tarball, > > over http(s) from www.claws-mail.org? Does it go > > slow also? > > Yes: wget https://www.claws-mail.org/download.php?file=releases/claws-mail-3.17.1.tar.gz --2018-09-28 17:14:16-- https://www.claws-mail.org/download.php?file=releases/claws-mail-3.17.1.tar.gz Resolving www.claws-mail.org (www.claws-mail.org)... 163.172.88.172 Connecting to www.claws-mail.org (www.claws-mail.org)|163.172.88.172|:443... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found Location: http://www.claws-mail.org//releases/claws-mail-3.17.1.tar.gz [following] --2018-09-28 17:14:17-- http://www.claws-mail.org//releases/claws-mail-3.17.1.tar.gz Connecting to www.claws-mail.org (www.claws-mail.org)|163.172.88.172|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently Location: https://www.claws-mail.org/releases/claws-mail-3.17.1.tar.gz [following] --2018-09-28 17:14:17-- https://www.claws-mail.org/releases/claws-mail-3.17.1.tar.gz Connecting to www.claws-mail.org (www.claws-mail.org)|163.172.88.172|:443... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 10171803 (9.7M) [application/x-gzip] Saving to: ‘download.php?file=releases%2Fclaws-mail-3.17.1.tar.gz.1’ download.php?file=releas 100%[==================================>] 9.70M 1.95MB/s in 5.2s I guess your problem hides somewhere else -- Salvatore From ticho at claws-mail.org Fri Sep 28 17:58:56 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 17:58:56 +0200 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> Message-ID: <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 17:15:30 +0200 Salvatore De Paolis wrote: > I guess your problem hides somewhere else That we already knew, I was just wondering whether the slowdowns come from transferring lot of small objects, or from bandwidth in general. (I know that a git clone is technically one TCP connection, but it has different, more staggered, characteristics than a single HTTP download.) George, you could do some tests against online.net (that's where the server is hosted), and inform them if you see the same slowdowns. -- Andrej From shai at platonix.com Fri Sep 28 18:40:08 2018 From: shai at platonix.com (Shai Berger) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 19:40:08 +0300 Subject: [Users] [SPAM] Re: Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> Message-ID: <20180928194008.06926996.shai@platonix.com> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 15:33:25 +0300 Removed GDPR wrote: > On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 14:09:12 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > > > What if you download a file, e.g. a release tarball, > > over http(s) from www.claws-mail.org? Does it go > > slow also? > > Yes: > 26.9KB/s I was going to suggest that you try to clone https://git.claws-mail.org/readonly/claws.git instead of the git:// URL, suspecting that your ISP is giving you lesser quality of service on ports other than the standard services (git uses 9418, IIRC, and you cloned Firefox via HTTPS). It's probably still worth a try, although I expect you'd get results similar to those you got when trying to download the tarball. As a workaround, I can suggest that you clone from https://gitlab.com/shaib/claws which I configured to mirror the main repository -- or, as Colin suggested, Olaf's mirror on GitHub. Either way, have you noticed your own ISP? I have just tried to clone from Israel (whose feeds go through the EU) and I got 3.5M/s. You have reported getting similar speeds from hosts in the US, and nobody else seems to be complaining; do you have any reason to think the problem is with the Claws infrastructure ISP, rather than your own? Have fun, Shai. From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Sep 28 19:04:37 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:04:37 +0300 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> Message-ID: <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 17:58:56 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > George, you could do some tests against online.net > (that's where the server is hosted), What particular tests are you suggesting? > and inform them if you see the same slowdowns. I am neither their client, nor I have any other relationship with them. -- George From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Sep 28 19:53:57 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:53:57 +0300 Subject: [Users] [SPAM] Re: Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180928194008.06926996.shai@platonix.com> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928194008.06926996.shai@platonix.com> Message-ID: <20180928205357.5c1b3b6d@localhost> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 19:40:08 +0300 Shai Berger wrote: > I was going to suggest that you try to clone > https://git.claws-mail.org/readonly/claws.git > instead of the git:// URL, That gives the same slow speed. > suspecting that your ISP is giving you lesser > quality of service on ports other than the standard > services Their answer is: they are not doing any of this. Also: the wget test to Claws (http) still showed same slowness. > do you have any reason to think the problem is with > the Claws infrastructure ISP, rather than your own? The reason is that I noticed that git cloning of Claws is slow, unlike anything else I test. BTW: I see sometimes people insert this "[SPAM]" in subject. Why is that and what is it supposed to mean? -- George From derekn at foolabs.com Fri Sep 28 20:10:36 2018 From: derekn at foolabs.com (Derek B. Noonburg) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 11:10:36 -0700 Subject: [Users] key binding mysteriously changing In-Reply-To: <20180921140928.5c8a3464@numbat> References: <20180921140928.5c8a3464@numbat> Message-ID: <20180928111036.111c3405@numbat> Following up on my own post: > This is a weird little problem... I removed the key binding for > ctrl-W in the compose window (by navigating to Message -> Close and > hitting the Delete key). That works fine, and is reflected > in .claws-mail/menurc. > > However, at some point later, the binding mysteriously reverts back to > the default (i.e., ctrl-W is once again bound to Message -> Close). I did a little bit of tracing, and I still can't figure out what's going on. It looks like gtk_accel_map_save() is sometimes not writing out the deleted binding correctly, but I'm not 100% sure of that. Maybe a bug in the specific version of gtk (2.24.31) I have? In any case, I re-bound to a key that I'm unlikely to hit by accident (ctrl-shift-W), which works just as well as unbinding for my purposes, and seems to avoid the problem (at least so far). - Derek From ticho at claws-mail.org Fri Sep 28 20:18:30 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:18:30 +0200 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> Message-ID: <20180928201830.5829f496@penny> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:04:37 +0300 Removed GDPR wrote: > On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 17:58:56 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > > > George, you could do some tests against online.net > > (that's where the server is hosted), > > What particular tests are you suggesting? Anything involving traffic between you and their network, the more the better. > > and inform them if you see the same slowdowns. > > I am neither their client, nor I have any other > relationship with them. But you're the only one (that we know of) who has this problem, so, like Shai mentioned elsewhere, it's more likely that the problem is on your end (or close to it). You need to work with your ISP and the other endpoint (online.net) to resolve it, nobody else is in a position to really help here. Regards, -- Andrej From dave at howorth.org.uk Fri Sep 28 20:26:04 2018 From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 19:26:04 +0100 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> Message-ID: <20180928192604.43746c6c@acer-suse.lan> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:04:37 +0300 Removed GDPR wrote: > On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 17:58:56 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > > > George, you could do some tests against online.net > > (that's where the server is hosted), > > What particular tests are you suggesting? > > > and inform them if you see the same slowdowns. > > I am neither their client, nor I have any other > relationship with them. I see they have a forum. Perhaps it is worth asking on there? From iwkse at claws-mail.org Fri Sep 28 20:35:33 2018 From: iwkse at claws-mail.org (Salvatore De Paolis) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:35:33 +0200 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> Message-ID: <20180928203533.37a2bb7d@net24.it> Hi Andrej, On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 17:58:56 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > That we already knew, I was just wondering whether the slowdowns come > from transferring lot of small objects, or from bandwidth in general. > (I know that a git clone is technically one TCP connection, but it has > different, more staggered, characteristics than a single HTTP download.) I get the same speed also when cloning with git. -- Salvatore From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Sep 28 20:57:48 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 21:57:48 +0300 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180928201830.5829f496@penny> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> <20180928201830.5829f496@penny> Message-ID: <20180928215748.3f4615b7@localhost> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:18:30 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > Anything involving traffic between you and their > network, the more the better. OK. I found http://ping.online.net/ Here is the result: [/tmp/download]: iperf3 -c ping.online.net Connecting to host ping.online.net, port 5201 [ 5] local 192.168.0.1 port 40130 connected to 62.210.18.40 port 5201 [ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr Cwnd [ 5] 0.00-1.00 sec 20.6 MBytes 173 Mbits/sec 109 2.72 MBytes [ 5] 1.00-2.00 sec 38.8 MBytes 325 Mbits/sec 25 2.01 MBytes [ 5] 2.00-3.00 sec 41.2 MBytes 346 Mbits/sec 0 2.11 MBytes [ 5] 3.00-4.00 sec 42.5 MBytes 357 Mbits/sec 0 2.19 MBytes [ 5] 4.00-5.00 sec 45.0 MBytes 377 Mbits/sec 0 2.24 MBytes [ 5] 5.00-6.00 sec 45.0 MBytes 377 Mbits/sec 0 2.28 MBytes [ 5] 6.00-7.00 sec 46.2 MBytes 388 Mbits/sec 0 2.30 MBytes [ 5] 7.00-8.00 sec 46.2 MBytes 388 Mbits/sec 0 2.32 MBytes [ 5] 8.00-9.00 sec 46.2 MBytes 388 Mbits/sec 0 2.32 MBytes [ 5] 9.00-10.00 sec 46.2 MBytes 388 Mbits/sec 0 2.32 MBytes - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - [ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr [ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 418 MBytes 351 Mbits/sec 134 sender [ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 417 MBytes 350 Mbits/sec receiver iperf Done. [/tmp/download]: wget http://ping.online.net/1000Mo.dat --2018-09-28 21:49:30-- http://ping.online.net/1000Mo.dat Resolving ping.online.net (ping.online.net)... 62.210.18.40 Connecting to ping.online.net (ping.online.net)|62.210.18.40|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 1000000000 (954M) [application/octet-stream] Saving to: ‘1000Mo.dat’ 1000Mo.dat 21%[====> ] 203.54M 10.7MB/s eta 91s > it's more likely that the problem is on your end (or > close to it). You need to work with your ISP and the > other endpoint (online.net) to resolve it, nobody > else is in a position to really help here. As I explained I have already talked to my ISP and they say they don't restrict anything based on port/protocol, just the global speed (which is currently capped at 1 Gbps for me). The test above also shows no issues between me and online.net. -- George From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Sep 28 21:03:30 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 22:03:30 +0300 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180928215748.3f4615b7@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> <20180928201830.5829f496@penny> <20180928215748.3f4615b7@localhost> Message-ID: <20180928220330.64cfa4c8@localhost> BTW git clone gives me the following speeds for these: 500-800 KiB/s: git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git ~20-30 KiB/s (similar to Claws): git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git What does this say? -- George From colin at colino.net Fri Sep 28 21:12:08 2018 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy-Mira) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 21:12:08 +0200 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180928220330.64cfa4c8@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> <20180928201830.5829f496@penny> <20180928215748.3f4615b7@localhost> <20180928220330.64cfa4c8@localhost> Message-ID: <20180928211208.208ed9e8@mike> On 28 September 2018 at 22h03, Removed GDPR wrote: Hi, > What does this say? I don't know. Just had an idea, though, can you try fixing git.claws-mail.org IP to 212.83.157.151 (another IP of the same server), in /etc/hosts ? -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Just had an idea, though, can you try > fixing git.claws-mail.org IP to 212.83.157.151 > (another IP of the same server), in /etc/hosts ? Tried this way: [/tmp/download]: git clone git://212.83.157.151/claws.git Cloning into 'claws'... remote: Counting objects: 108262, done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (17979/17979), done. Receiving objects: 1% (1511/108262), 316.00 KiB | 26.00 KiB/s -- George From iwkse at claws-mail.org Fri Sep 28 22:09:08 2018 From: iwkse at claws-mail.org (Salvatore De Paolis) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 22:09:08 +0200 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180928225959.7430a066@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> <20180928201830.5829f496@penny> <20180928215748.3f4615b7@localhost> <20180928220330.64cfa4c8@localhost> <20180928211208.208ed9e8@mike> <20180928225959.7430a066@localhost> Message-ID: <20180928220908.5c677b57@net24.it> Hi George, On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 22:59:59 +0300 Removed GDPR wrote: > [/tmp/download]: git clone git://212.83.157.151/claws.git > Cloning into 'claws'... > remote: Counting objects: 108262, done. > remote: Compressing objects: 100% (17979/17979), done. > Receiving objects: 1% (1511/108262), 316.00 KiB | 26.00 KiB/s Try with a proxy -- Salvatore From rol at witbe.net Fri Sep 28 22:15:46 2018 From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=)) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 22:15:46 +0200 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180928225959.7430a066@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> <20180928201830.5829f496@penny> <20180928215748.3f4615b7@localhost> <20180928220330.64cfa4c8@localhost> <20180928211208.208ed9e8@mike> <20180928225959.7430a066@localhost> Message-ID: <20180928221546.0d1de0c4@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Hello, On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 22:59:59 +0300 Removed GDPR wrote: > [/tmp/download]: git clone git://212.83.157.151/claws.git > Cloning into 'claws'... > remote: Counting objects: 108262, done. > remote: Compressing objects: 100% (17979/17979), done. > Receiving objects: 1% (1511/108262), 316.00 KiB | 26.00 KiB/s Tried that from various places (@Home, connected to Orange, in France, and from the office in New York, USA), and speeds are much higher than yours. I can share the traceroutes if you are interested, though we all know that this is little value when we are facing assymetric routing. Not sure if you shared your traceroute with Colin, but maybe you should, and give him your IP so that he can try a traceroute from the server whose IP is 212.83.157.151, so that you can check if there is something odd there. What's quite sure is that the server itself is not responsible... Now, depending on how many backbones the traffic goes thru, it may be difficult to find the culprit, and even more to find the fix :( Paul -- Paul Rolland E-Mail : rol(at)witbe.net CTO - Witbe.net SA Tel. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 77 Les Collines de l'Arche Fax. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 99 F-92057 Paris La Defense RIPE : PR12-RIPE LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulrolland Skype : rollandpaul "I worry about my child and the Internet all the time, even though she's too young to have logged on yet. Here's what I worry about. 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Sep 28 23:58:07 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 00:58:07 +0300 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180928221546.0d1de0c4@riri.DEF.witbe.net> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> <20180928201830.5829f496@penny> <20180928215748.3f4615b7@localhost> <20180928220330.64cfa4c8@localhost> <20180928211208.208ed9e8@mike> <20180928225959.7430a066@localhost> <20180928221546.0d1de0c4@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Message-ID: <20180929005807.4118f137@localhost> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 22:15:46 +0200 Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) wrote: > Not sure if you shared your traceroute with Colin, I did. > What's quite sure is that the server itself is not > responsible... Now, depending on how many backbones > the traffic goes thru, it may be difficult to find > the culprit, and even more to find the fix :( I think it has something to do with the upstream routing. When I traceroute from my machine I see 14 hops, 10 of which are outside my country. There are asterisks in the last hops: [...] 7 ae-0.level3.frnkge04.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.9.6) 26.629 ms 24.478 ms 25.824 ms 8 ae-2-3203.ear3.paris1.level3.net (4.69.161.126) 39.395 ms 40.448 ms 40.794 ms 9 212.3.235.198 (212.3.235.198) 43.597 ms 43.605 ms 46.021 ms 10 pni-th2-a9k1.th2.poneytelecom.eu (195.154.1.37) 45.136 ms 45.548 ms 45.544 ms 11 * 195.154.2.130 (195.154.2.130) 61.419 ms * 12 * * * 13 * * * 14 claws-mail.org (163.172.88.172) 41.814 ms 41.973 ms * The route to online.net: [...] 7 ae-0.level3.frnkge04.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.9.6) 29.017 ms 26.003 ms 26.252 ms 8 * * * 9 212.3.235.202 (212.3.235.202) 42.231 ms 45.522 ms 42.018 ms 10 45x-s44-2-a9k1.dc3.poneytelecom.eu (195.154.1.105) 45.831 ms 46.038 ms 195.154.1.153 (195.154.1.153) 48.656 ms 11 www.as12876.net (62.210.16.2) 47.376 ms 44.850 ms 47.251 ms and to ping.online.net: [...] 7 ae-0.level3.frnkge04.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.9.6) 25.282 ms 24.449 ms 25.969 ms 8 * * * 9 212.3.235.202 (212.3.235.202) 42.031 ms 43.357 ms 41.762 ms 10 bb2-bb1-be12876.dc3.poneytelecom.eu (195.154.1.251) 44.067 ms 45x-s44-2-a9k1.dc3.poneytelecom.eu (195.154.1.105) 42.121 ms 43.201 ms 11 grokouik.poneytelecom.eu (62.210.175.218) 45.538 ms ping.online.net (62.210.18.40) 41.508 ms 41.518 ms and to 212.83.157.151: [...] 7 ae-0.level3.frnkge04.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.9.6) 25.422 ms 28.325 ms 24.775 ms 8 * * * 9 212.3.235.202 (212.3.235.202) 42.347 ms 42.033 ms 43.168 ms 10 49e-s202b-1-dc2-a9k1.dc2.poneytelecom.eu (195.154.1.29) 46.167 ms 48.287 ms 48.203 ms 11 195.154.2.132 (195.154.2.132) 53.199 ms 53.752 ms 52.340 ms 12 srv.colino.net (212.83.157.151) 50.811 ms * * From US there are only 7 hops (and the git clone speed is fine): [...] 3 * * * 4 212.3.235.198 (212.3.235.198) 104.283 ms 104.306 ms 104.207 ms 5 pni-th2-a9k1.th2.poneytelecom.eu (195.154.1.37) 104.129 ms 104.135 ms * 6 * * 195.154.2.130 (195.154.2.130) 105.067 ms 7 claws-mail.org (163.172.88.172) 104.582 ms 104.681 ms 104.676 ms -- George From rol at witbe.net Sat Sep 29 00:10:22 2018 From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=)) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 00:10:22 +0200 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180929005807.4118f137@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> <20180928201830.5829f496@penny> <20180928215748.3f4615b7@localhost> <20180928220330.64cfa4c8@localhost> <20180928211208.208ed9e8@mike> <20180928225959.7430a066@localhost> <20180928221546.0d1de0c4@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929005807.4118f137@localhost> Message-ID: <20180929001022.287b7d09@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Hello George, On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 00:58:07 +0300 Removed GDPR wrote: > I think it has something to do with the upstream > routing. When I traceroute from my machine I see 14 > hops, 10 of which are outside my country. There are > asterisks in the last hops: > > [...] > 7 ae-0.level3.frnkge04.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.9.6) 26.629 ms > 24.478 ms 25.824 ms 8 ae-2-3203.ear3.paris1.level3.net (4.69.161.126) > 39.395 ms 40.448 ms 40.794 ms 9 212.3.235.198 (212.3.235.198) 43.597 > ms 43.605 ms 46.021 ms 10 pni-th2-a9k1.th2.poneytelecom.eu > (195.154.1.37) 45.136 ms 45.548 ms 45.544 ms 11 * 195.154.2.130 > (195.154.2.130) 61.419 ms * 12 * * * > 13 * * * > 14 claws-mail.org (163.172.88.172) 41.814 ms 41.973 ms * OK, so end of the path is GTT, then L3 (though I have to check that more carefully - only one hop in such a backbone is quite unusual), then Online > The route to online.net: > 7 ae-0.level3.frnkge04.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.9.6) 29.017 ms > 26.003 ms 26.252 ms 8 * * * > 9 212.3.235.202 (212.3.235.202) 42.231 ms 45.522 ms 42.018 ms > 10 45x-s44-2-a9k1.dc3.poneytelecom.eu (195.154.1.105) 45.831 ms 46.038 > ms 195.154.1.153 (195.154.1.153) 48.656 ms 11 www.as12876.net > (62.210.16.2) 47.376 ms 44.850 ms 47.251 ms Nearly the same : GTT, *** (instead of L3), and the Online... but *** may be L3 in disguise ;) > >From US there are only 7 hops (and the git clone speed > is fine): > > [...] > 3 * * * > 4 212.3.235.198 (212.3.235.198) 104.283 ms 104.306 ms 104.207 ms > 5 pni-th2-a9k1.th2.poneytelecom.eu (195.154.1.37) 104.129 ms 104.135 > ms * 6 * * 195.154.2.130 (195.154.2.130) 105.067 ms > 7 claws-mail.org (163.172.88.172) 104.582 ms 104.681 ms 104.676 ms That's the end of the path, and again, it's the same... Reverse traces (from claws-mal.org/srv.colino.net) would be interesting to see if the path is the same. The initial part is likely to be the same, and the difference is probably going to be in the part you hid... Paul -- Paul Rolland E-Mail : rol(at)witbe.net CTO - Witbe.net SA Tel. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 77 Les Collines de l'Arche Fax. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 99 F-92057 Paris La Defense RIPE : PR12-RIPE LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulrolland Skype : rollandpaul "I worry about my child and the Internet all the time, even though she's too young to have logged on yet. Here's what I worry about. I worry that 10 or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say 'Daddy, where were you when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?'" --Mike Godwin, Electronic Frontier Foundation -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From shai at platonix.com Sat Sep 29 11:36:29 2018 From: shai at platonix.com (Shai Berger) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 12:36:29 +0300 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180928205357.5c1b3b6d@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928194008.06926996.shai@platonix.com> <20180928205357.5c1b3b6d@localhost> Message-ID: <20180929123629.49960b5b.shai@platonix.com> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:53:57 +0300 Removed GDPR wrote: > On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 19:40:08 +0300 Shai Berger wrote: > > > do you have any reason to think the problem is with > > the Claws infrastructure ISP, rather than your own? > > The reason is that I noticed that git cloning of Claws > is slow, unlike anything else I test. > However, as noted, the same argument applies in the other direction -- it seems that your cloning is the only one that's slow, while other clonings of the Claws git repo seem to be of adequate (>2M/s) speed. > BTW: I see sometimes people insert this "[SPAM]" in > subject. Why is that and what is it supposed to mean? I apologize for that. "Spam" is a common term for junk mail. At least in my case, this is added to the subject line of received messages by some processor at my mail service provider, over which I have limited control, and when replying to messages where the processor added it when it shouldn't have, I sometimes neglect to remove it. Shai From removed-gdpr at example.com Sat Sep 29 12:01:53 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 13:01:53 +0300 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180929001022.287b7d09@riri.DEF.witbe.net> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> <20180928201830.5829f496@penny> <20180928215748.3f4615b7@localhost> <20180928220330.64cfa4c8@localhost> <20180928211208.208ed9e8@mike> <20180928225959.7430a066@localhost> <20180928221546.0d1de0c4@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929005807.4118f137@localhost> <20180929001022.287b7d09@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Message-ID: <20180929130153.3e4786c6@localhost> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 00:10:22 +0200 Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) wrote: > OK, so end of the path is GTT, then L3 (though I > have to check that more carefully - only one hop in > such a backbone is quite unusual), then Online What are GTT and L3? > Reverse traces (from claws-mal.org/srv.colino.net) > would be interesting to see if the path is the same. > The initial part is likely to be the same, and the > difference is probably going to be in the part you > hid... It is not possible to traceroute from anywhere to me because my firewall drops all input (including ICMP). I am not a network expert. If I understand correctly how it works: I connect to the git host, request something, then it sends packets back to me. Are you suggesting that the request and the response travel different routes? I suppose Colin has asked the service provider and will share their reply when it comes. -- George From removed-gdpr at example.com Sat Sep 29 12:02:05 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 13:02:05 +0300 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180929123629.49960b5b.shai@platonix.com> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928194008.06926996.shai@platonix.com> <20180928205357.5c1b3b6d@localhost> <20180929123629.49960b5b.shai@platonix.com> Message-ID: <20180929130205.0158387c@localhost> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 12:36:29 +0300 Shai Berger wrote: > However, as noted, the same argument applies in the > other direction -- it seems that your cloning is the > only one that's slow, while other clonings of the > Claws git repo seem to be of adequate (>2M/s) speed. I haven't seen anyone else's traceroute but I suppose it is different too. > I apologize for that. No worries, just wanted to know. Thanks. -- George From rol at witbe.net Sat Sep 29 16:24:31 2018 From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=)) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 16:24:31 +0200 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180929130153.3e4786c6@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> <20180928201830.5829f496@penny> <20180928215748.3f4615b7@localhost> <20180928220330.64cfa4c8@localhost> <20180928211208.208ed9e8@mike> <20180928225959.7430a066@localhost> <20180928221546.0d1de0c4@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929005807.4118f137@localhost> <20180929001022.287b7d09@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929130153.3e4786c6@localhost> Message-ID: <20180929162431.3e125da1@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Hello George, On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 13:01:53 +0300 Removed GDPR wrote: > What are GTT and L3? Sorry, my ISP background is surfacing... L3 (Level3) and GTT are large ISPs whose backbones are spanning throughout the planet... > It is not possible to traceroute from anywhere to me > because my firewall drops all input (including ICMP). Of course it is possible ;) Your firewall is dropping only part of the traffic otherwise you would have no connectivity ;) But the traceroutes we are interested in are not the one covering your internal network, I consider that part to be working as you have some git clone with decent speeds. The traceroutes we are interested in are the ones to some equipment close to you. It can be the external interface of your FW (even if it drop ICMP), or some local equivalent to "ping.online.net" hosted by your provider. > I am not a network expert. If I understand correctly > how it works: I connect to the git host, request > something, then it sends packets back to me. Are you > suggesting that the request and the response travel > different routes? Yes, this is highly possible... It has been decades since Internet is no more the symetric backbone it used to be at its inception. Now, it is a mesh of networks, connecting to each other in many different places, and each having their own strategy to decide the way they want the traffic to enter their infrastructure or leave it... Quick example : Office to home : 7 [14:21] :~> traceroute $HONE traceroute to $HOME ($HOME), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 192.168.0.14 (192.168.0.14) 0.633 ms 0.344 ms 0.296 ms 2 put92-4-82-231-50-254.fbx.proxad.net (82.231.50.254) 31.904 ms 33.094 ms 33.364 ms 3 213.228.8.254 (213.228.8.254) 32.494 ms 32.489 ms 33.492 ms 4 p11-crs16-1-be1009.intf.routers.proxad.net (194.149.161.13) 34.308 ms 33.085 ms 34.114 ms 5 194.149.166.54 (194.149.166.54) 33.183 ms 32.603 ms 33.866 ms 6 193.253.13.69 (193.253.13.69) 42.816 ms 32.961 ms 34.647 ms 7 ae49-0.nridf102.aubervilliers.francetelecom.net (193.252.98.105) 32.948 ms 34.450 ms 33.517 ms 8 ae42-0.ncidf104.paris15earrondissement.francetelecom.net (193.252.98.97) 34.452 ms 34.819 ms 33.267 ms 9 ae40-0.ncidf103.puteaux.francetelecom.net (193.252.98.17) 34.078 ms 34.452 ms 34.638 ms 10 * * * Home to office : 477 [14:18] rol at riri:~> traceroute $OFFICE traceroute to $OFFICE ($OFFICE), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 livebox.home (192.168.1.254) 0.361 ms 0.368 ms 0.405 ms 2 80.10.239.9 (80.10.239.9) 2.160 ms 2.496 ms 2.853 ms 3 ae102-0.ncidf103.Puteaux.francetelecom.net (193.253.80.138) 5.293 ms 5.298 ms 5.304 ms 4 ae41-0.niidf101.Paris3eArrondissement.francetelecom.net (193.252.159.42) 3.762 ms 3.660 ms 3.733 ms 5 193.252.137.10 (193.252.137.10) 3.750 ms 3.800 ms 3.720 ms 6 colt-1.gw.opentransit.net (193.251.154.76) 3.772 ms 1.764 ms 2.707 ms 7 * * * 8 * * * 9 router_120501482.ia.colt.net (62.23.86.14) 3.906 ms 3.819 ms 3.875 ms 10 $OFFICE ($OFFICE) 4.013 ms 4.052 ms 3.976 ms Office to home goes thru Free, and the FranceTelecom/Orange. Home to Office goes thru FranceTelecom/Orange and then Colt. Paul -- Paul Rolland E-Mail : rol(at)witbe.net CTO - Witbe.net SA Tel. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 77 Les Collines de l'Arche Fax. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 99 F-92057 Paris La Defense RIPE : PR12-RIPE LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulrolland Skype : rollandpaul "I worry about my child and the Internet all the time, even though she's too young to have logged on yet. Here's what I worry about. I worry that 10 or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say 'Daddy, where were you when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?'" --Mike Godwin, Electronic Frontier Foundation -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From removed-gdpr at example.com Sat Sep 29 18:06:20 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:06:20 +0300 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180929162431.3e125da1@riri.DEF.witbe.net> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> <20180928201830.5829f496@penny> <20180928215748.3f4615b7@localhost> <20180928220330.64cfa4c8@localhost> <20180928211208.208ed9e8@mike> <20180928225959.7430a066@localhost> <20180928221546.0d1de0c4@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929005807.4118f137@localhost> <20180929001022.287b7d09@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929130153.3e4786c6@localhost> <20180929162431.3e125da1@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Message-ID: <20180929190620.082f8b58@localhost> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 16:24:31 +0200 Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) wrote: > The traceroutes we are interested in are the ones to > some equipment close to you. It can be the external > interface of your FW (even if it drop ICMP), I don't see why. I have just got off the phone with my ISP (again) - they are not restricting anything based on port or protocol. Please consider also: - The high speed results to online.net - HTTP download from claws-mail.org is 30Kb/s - The differences are in the final hops of the route, not on my end. I have not seen a traceroute from anyone who says here their speed is 2Mb/s but to my mind something may be happening in those final hops. That said: you can traceroute gobul.net > Office to home : > [...] > Home to office : > [...] Those are 2 cases in which you initiate the connection from either end. The situation with git clone is: A sends a request to B (route 1) B responds to A (route 2) Perhaps it is possible that route 1 is different from route 2 but I have no idea how this can be checked (and if it has any relation to the issue). -- George From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 29 18:25:32 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 16:25:32 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on feed refreshing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3971 --- Comment #32 from Removed after GDPR request --- Another feed which just showed the issue: https://security.googleblog.com/feeds/posts/default Some hours ago I deleted message with timestamp: Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 09:51:05 GMT I refreshed the feed now and it appeared as unread. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 29 18:27:01 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 16:27:01 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on feed refreshing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3971 --- Comment #33 from Removed after GDPR request --- Another one: https://feedproxy.google.com/blogspot/amDG Messages: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 15:02:47 GMT Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 10:05:20 GMT -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From dave at howorth.org.uk Sat Sep 29 21:02:19 2018 From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 20:02:19 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on feed refreshing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180929200219.417ab49e@acer-suse.lan> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 16:25:32 +0000 noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: > https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3971 > > --- Comment #32 from Removed after GDPR request --- > Another feed which just showed the issue: > > https://security.googleblog.com/feeds/posts/default > > Some hours ago I deleted message with timestamp: > > Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 09:51:05 GMT > > I refreshed the feed now and it appeared as unread. Silly question but is this behaviour unique to claws? I don't use claws for RSS myself; I'm presently using feedbro and before that sage, but I often see repeated feed entries etc. I simply don't care; what's important is whether the feed shows you new items as they appear. From colin at colino.net Sat Sep 29 21:19:17 2018 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy-Mira) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 21:19:17 +0200 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180929130153.3e4786c6@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> <20180928201830.5829f496@penny> <20180928215748.3f4615b7@localhost> <20180928220330.64cfa4c8@localhost> <20180928211208.208ed9e8@mike> <20180928225959.7430a066@localhost> <20180928221546.0d1de0c4@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929005807.4118f137@localhost> <20180929001022.287b7d09@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929130153.3e4786c6@localhost> Message-ID: <20180929211917.52c2a23c@mike> On 29 September 2018 at 13h01, Removed GDPR wrote: Hi, > I suppose Colin has asked the service provider and > will share their reply when it comes. Yeah, I just got it, and it's an unsurprising "everything's fine on our end, it's his ISP": > Bonjour, > Je demande aux administrateurs de vérifier. Nous revenons vers vous. > Cordialement, Followed by: > Bonjour, > Tout semble fonctionnel sur notre reseau. > Il semblerait que son FAI soit la raison de ces lenteurs, je vous > invite à les consulter. Sorry George, I just don't have the energy necessary for this fight. I have to do it too often for a living, where I don't have a choice, that I'm tired of it :) -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From removed-gdpr at example.com Sat Sep 29 22:02:02 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 23:02:02 +0300 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180929211917.52c2a23c@mike> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> <20180928201830.5829f496@penny> <20180928215748.3f4615b7@localhost> <20180928220330.64cfa4c8@localhost> <20180928211208.208ed9e8@mike> <20180928225959.7430a066@localhost> <20180928221546.0d1de0c4@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929005807.4118f137@localhost> <20180929001022.287b7d09@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929130153.3e4786c6@localhost> <20180929211917.52c2a23c@mike> Message-ID: <20180929230202.77f337cc@localhost> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 21:19:17 +0200 Colin Leroy-Mira wrote: > Yeah, I just got it, and it's an unsurprising > "everything's fine on our end, it's his ISP": I don't speak French, so thanks for sharing a translated summary. So everyone says "it's not us" :) > Sorry George, I just don't have the energy necessary > for this fight. I have to do it too often for a > living, where I don't have a choice, that I'm tired > of it :) No problem. I will live with git pull. Sorry for so many messages. Thanks. -- George From jn.ml.clwm.729 at letterboxes.org Sat Sep 29 22:07:20 2018 From: jn.ml.clwm.729 at letterboxes.org (Jeremy Nicoll) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 21:07:20 +0100 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180929230202.77f337cc@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> <20180928201830.5829f496@penny> <20180928215748.3f4615b7@localhost> <20180928220330.64cfa4c8@localhost> <20180928211208.208ed9e8@mike> <20180928225959.7430a066@localhost> <20180928221546.0d1de0c4@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929005807.4118f137@localhost> <20180929001022.287b7d09@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929130153.3e4786c6@localhost> <20180929211917.52c2a23c@mike> <20180929230202.77f337cc@localhost> Message-ID: <1538251640.1147819.1525046320.4FE01649@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018, at 21:02, Removed GDPR wrote: > No problem. I will live with git pull. Sorry for so > many messages. If other people are not seeing the problem, is there some way - using VPN? - that George could make his request appear to come from somewhere else? -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. From rol at witbe.net Sat Sep 29 22:33:02 2018 From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=)) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 22:33:02 +0200 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <1538251640.1147819.1525046320.4FE01649@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> <20180928201830.5829f496@penny> <20180928215748.3f4615b7@localhost> <20180928220330.64cfa4c8@localhost> <20180928211208.208ed9e8@mike> <20180928225959.7430a066@localhost> <20180928221546.0d1de0c4@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929005807.4118f137@localhost> <20180929001022.287b7d09@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929130153.3e4786c6@localhost> <20180929211917.52c2a23c@mike> <20180929230202.77f337cc@localhost> <1538251640.1147819.1525046320.4FE01649@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <20180929223302.2c775ede@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Hello, On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 21:07:20 +0100 Jeremy Nicoll wrote: > > No problem. I will live with git pull. Sorry for so > > many messages. > > If other people are not seeing the problem, is there some way > - using VPN? - that George could make his request appear to > come from somewhere else? An HTTP proxy maybe ? I don't know git's internal, but I once read it was HTTP based... If so, there are (unfortunately) tons of open HTTP proxy that could be used. Paul -- Paul Rolland E-Mail : rol(at)witbe.net CTO - Witbe.net SA Tel. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 77 Les Collines de l'Arche Fax. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 99 F-92057 Paris La Defense RIPE : PR12-RIPE LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulrolland Skype : rollandpaul "I worry about my child and the Internet all the time, even though she's too young to have logged on yet. Here's what I worry about. I worry that 10 or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say 'Daddy, where were you when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?'" --Mike Godwin, Electronic Frontier Foundation -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From rol at witbe.net Sat Sep 29 23:29:55 2018 From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=)) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 23:29:55 +0200 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180929211917.52c2a23c@mike> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> <20180928201830.5829f496@penny> <20180928215748.3f4615b7@localhost> <20180928220330.64cfa4c8@localhost> <20180928211208.208ed9e8@mike> <20180928225959.7430a066@localhost> <20180928221546.0d1de0c4@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929005807.4118f137@localhost> <20180929001022.287b7d09@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929130153.3e4786c6@localhost> <20180929211917.52c2a23c@mike> Message-ID: <20180929232955.7b79f763@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Hello, On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 21:19:17 +0200 Colin Leroy-Mira wrote: > Yeah, I just got it, and it's an unsurprising "everything's fine on our > end, it's his ISP": Yup, not really a surprise... Traceroute from Online to Gobul goes thru : - AS12876 - ONLINE - Ams-IX (IP 80.249.209.32) - AS2914 - NTT (IP 83.217.227.5 and 83.217.227.2) - AS42459 - FOBUL (IP 212.45.65.238) - AS41017 - GOBULNET (IP 95.169.192.3) I don't give details of the path in Online, I don't think it's relevant. George's path from (I guess) some Gobul-managed IP goes thry Level3 via Frankfurt and then Paris. Gobul seems to be getting upstream connectivity via AS42459 (FOBUL) (Does every Internet related company has to end its name with "obul" in Bulgaria ? ;) And Fobul is getting transit from : - AS2914 (NTT) - AS3257 (GTT) - AS25076 (ISTARLINK) - though I have some doubt for this one. A traceroute from NTT Bulgaria (Sofia) gives : 1 * ae-12.r20.frnkge04.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.24) [MPLS: Label 299792 Exp 0] 25 msec 26 msec 2 ae-9.r02.frnkge04.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.142) 28 msec 29 msec 29 msec 3 ae-0.level3.frnkge04.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.9.6) 28 msec 29 msec 29 msec 4 * * * 5 212.3.235.198 45 msec 45 msec 45 msec 6 pni-th2-a9k1.th2.poneytelecom.eu (195.154.1.37) 39 msec 39 msec 39 msec 7 195.154.2.130 43 msec 42 msec 43 msec 8 claws-mail.org (163.172.88.172) 44 msec 44 msec 43 msec The same from GTT gives : 1 xe-1-2-7.cr1-fra6.ip4.gtt.net (89.149.186.78) 27.572 ms xe-8-0-4.cr1-fra6.ip4.gtt.net (141.136.111.233) 59.017 ms xe-1-2-7.cr1-fra6.ip4.gtt.net (89.149.186.78) 27.362 ms 2 xe-9-2-2.cr4-fra4.ip4.gtt.net (141.136.111.145) 27.628 ms 27.643 ms 27.420 ms 3 * * * 4 * * * 5 212.3.235.198 (212.3.235.198) 37.366 ms 37.559 ms 37.547 ms 6 pni-th2-a9k1.th2.poneytelecom.eu (195.154.1.37) 97.795 ms 37.421 ms 37.490 ms 7 195.154.2.130 (195.154.2.130) 38.175 ms 37.211 ms 37.065 ms 8 claws-mail.org (163.172.88.172) 37.121 ms 62.817 ms 37.259 ms But 212.3.235.198 appears to be associated with Level3... So, traffic from GTT or NTT goes to Level3, then to Online via a PNI... Definitely, we have some traffic assymetry going on... and a multi-hop AS paths, which makes it globally difficult to fully diagnose, and even more difficult to have it fixed as the three big networks involved (L3, GTT, NTT - and Online) are not very likely to spend much time on that :( And worse, we still don't know if the problem is the forward or the reverse path... And we are lacking all the beginning of George's path... -ENODATA to continue working on that... Paul -- Paul Rolland E-Mail : rol(at)witbe.net CTO - Witbe.net SA Tel. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 77 Les Collines de l'Arche Fax. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 99 F-92057 Paris La Defense RIPE : PR12-RIPE LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulrolland Skype : rollandpaul "I worry about my child and the Internet all the time, even though she's too young to have logged on yet. Here's what I worry about. I worry that 10 or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say 'Daddy, where were you when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?'" --Mike Godwin, Electronic Frontier Foundation -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From removed-gdpr at example.com Sun Sep 30 11:47:13 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 12:47:13 +0300 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180929232955.7b79f763@riri.DEF.witbe.net> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> <20180928201830.5829f496@penny> <20180928215748.3f4615b7@localhost> <20180928220330.64cfa4c8@localhost> <20180928211208.208ed9e8@mike> <20180928225959.7430a066@localhost> <20180928221546.0d1de0c4@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929005807.4118f137@localhost> <20180929001022.287b7d09@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929130153.3e4786c6@localhost> <20180929211917.52c2a23c@mike> <20180929232955.7b79f763@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Message-ID: <20180930124713.51c966c7@localhost> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 23:29:55 +0200 Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) wrote: > Traceroute from Online to Gobul goes thru : > A traceroute from NTT Bulgaria (Sofia) gives : > The same from GTT gives : How did you test these? (from?) > And we are lacking all the beginning of George's > path... Because those are not international hops and don't matter: http://susepaste.org/198dcd74 FWIW: The traceroute git.claws-mail.org pauses for some seconds right after hop 7. -- George From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 30 13:36:08 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 11:36:08 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3554] Claws-mail freezes when activating VPN or changing IP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3554 --- Comment #2 from Alexander Kurakin --- Good day! I have the same issue in 3.17.1. NetworkManager support is on. Everything work with this VPN in other client. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From rol at witbe.net Sun Sep 30 16:04:39 2018 From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=)) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 16:04:39 +0200 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180930124713.51c966c7@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> <20180928201830.5829f496@penny> <20180928215748.3f4615b7@localhost> <20180928220330.64cfa4c8@localhost> <20180928211208.208ed9e8@mike> <20180928225959.7430a066@localhost> <20180928221546.0d1de0c4@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929005807.4118f137@localhost> <20180929001022.287b7d09@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929130153.3e4786c6@localhost> <20180929211917.52c2a23c@mike> <20180929232955.7b79f763@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180930124713.51c966c7@localhost> Message-ID: <20180930160439.2a419229@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Hello, On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 12:47:13 +0300 Removed GDPR wrote: > > Traceroute from Online to Gobul goes thru : > > A traceroute from NTT Bulgaria (Sofia) gives : > > The same from GTT gives : > > How did you test these? (from?) That kindda tool is named a Looking Glass, it is run by most of the big networks to allow people to run some tests without asking their Noc ;) You can find a quite long list there : http://www.bgplookingglass.com/ and there http://www.traceroute.org/ > Because those are not international hops and don't > matter: > > http://susepaste.org/198dcd74 Well, they do confirm my analysis at the very least ;) Gobul -> Fobul -> NTT -> L3 -> Online > FWIW: The traceroute git.claws-mail.org pauses for some > seconds right after hop 7. Most probably an equipment configured with a non-routed address that is filtered. So, you received no replies (hence the *), and traceroute has to wait for the timeout (3 times - 3 *) before continuing... Paul -- Paul Rolland E-Mail : rol(at)witbe.net CTO - Witbe.net SA Tel. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 77 Les Collines de l'Arche Fax. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 99 F-92057 Paris La Defense RIPE : PR12-RIPE LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulrolland Skype : rollandpaul "I worry about my child and the Internet all the time, even though she's too young to have logged on yet. Here's what I worry about. I worry that 10 or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say 'Daddy, where were you when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?'" --Mike Godwin, Electronic Frontier Foundation -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From removed-gdpr at example.com Sun Sep 30 16:16:46 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 17:16:46 +0300 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180930160439.2a419229@riri.DEF.witbe.net> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> <20180928201830.5829f496@penny> <20180928215748.3f4615b7@localhost> <20180928220330.64cfa4c8@localhost> <20180928211208.208ed9e8@mike> <20180928225959.7430a066@localhost> <20180928221546.0d1de0c4@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929005807.4118f137@localhost> <20180929001022.287b7d09@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929130153.3e4786c6@localhost> <20180929211917.52c2a23c@mike> <20180929232955.7b79f763@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180930124713.51c966c7@localhost> <20180930160439.2a419229@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Message-ID: <20180930171646.3b960abb@localhost> Thanks for the links. So in short - everyone shrugs and blames others and we know nothing. :) -- George From colin at colino.net Sun Sep 30 17:34:00 2018 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy-Mira) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 17:34:00 +0200 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180929232955.7b79f763@riri.DEF.witbe.net> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> <20180928201830.5829f496@penny> <20180928215748.3f4615b7@localhost> <20180928220330.64cfa4c8@localhost> <20180928211208.208ed9e8@mike> <20180928225959.7430a066@localhost> <20180928221546.0d1de0c4@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929005807.4118f137@localhost> <20180929001022.287b7d09@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929130153.3e4786c6@localhost> <20180929211917.52c2a23c@mike> <20180929232955.7b79f763@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Message-ID: <20180930173400.7d37986a@mike> On 29 September 2018 at 23h29, Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) wrote: Hi, > -ENODATA to continue working on that... I guess you've already put in more time investing that than George's ISP and ours, combined :) So, thanks! -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From removed-gdpr at example.com Sun Sep 30 18:10:44 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 19:10:44 +0300 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180930173400.7d37986a@mike> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> <20180928201830.5829f496@penny> <20180928215748.3f4615b7@localhost> <20180928220330.64cfa4c8@localhost> <20180928211208.208ed9e8@mike> <20180928225959.7430a066@localhost> <20180928221546.0d1de0c4@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929005807.4118f137@localhost> <20180929001022.287b7d09@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929130153.3e4786c6@localhost> <20180929211917.52c2a23c@mike> <20180929232955.7b79f763@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180930173400.7d37986a@mike> Message-ID: <20180930191044.437ee3d6@localhost> On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 17:34:00 +0200 Colin Leroy-Mira wrote: > So, thanks! +1 -- George From rol at witbe.net Sun Sep 30 21:38:04 2018 From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=)) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 21:38:04 +0200 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180930171646.3b960abb@localhost> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> <20180928201830.5829f496@penny> <20180928215748.3f4615b7@localhost> <20180928220330.64cfa4c8@localhost> <20180928211208.208ed9e8@mike> <20180928225959.7430a066@localhost> <20180928221546.0d1de0c4@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929005807.4118f137@localhost> <20180929001022.287b7d09@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929130153.3e4786c6@localhost> <20180929211917.52c2a23c@mike> <20180929232955.7b79f763@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180930124713.51c966c7@localhost> <20180930160439.2a419229@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180930171646.3b960abb@localhost> Message-ID: <20180930213804.3a6f1e68@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Hello George, On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 17:16:46 +0300 Removed GDPR wrote: > Thanks for the links. My pleasure. > So in short - everyone shrugs and blames others and we > know nothing. :) Unfortunately, I'm afraid you are correct... Your access works correctly, some of the tests you did prove it. claws-mail.org works correctly, some have run a git clone to prove it. So, the problem is in between... but none of us has the control knobs required to test the various parts of the link from you to CM and identify which part is problematic. And though I can reach netops from these backbones on some IRC channel, asking them to investigate would imply being able to run tests in return, which I can't do... Sorry, Paul -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From rol at witbe.net Sun Sep 30 21:40:25 2018 From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=)) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 21:40:25 +0200 Subject: [Users] Extremely slow connection to git.claws-mail.org In-Reply-To: <20180930173400.7d37986a@mike> References: <20180831011903.76f70342@localhost> <20180913194622.70556a82@localhost> <20180913174840.7bef131e@localhost> <20180913191031.096b9611@ladybug> <20180913232235.73ab4c70@localhost> <20180928140912.570fc971@penny> <20180928153325.352b4f53@localhost> <20180928171530.722a911c@net24.it> <20180928175856.6d824a88@penny> <20180928200437.2420f632@localhost> <20180928201830.5829f496@penny> <20180928215748.3f4615b7@localhost> <20180928220330.64cfa4c8@localhost> <20180928211208.208ed9e8@mike> <20180928225959.7430a066@localhost> <20180928221546.0d1de0c4@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929005807.4118f137@localhost> <20180929001022.287b7d09@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180929130153.3e4786c6@localhost> <20180929211917.52c2a23c@mike> <20180929232955.7b79f763@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20180930173400.7d37986a@mike> Message-ID: <20180930214025.0516839a@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Hello, On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 17:34:00 +0200 Colin Leroy-Mira wrote: > On 29 September 2018 at 23h29, Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) wrote: > > Hi, > > > -ENODATA to continue working on that... > > I guess you've already put in more time investing that than George's ISP > and ours, combined :) That's week-end while being in New-York with nothing worth to do, except some code merge... and network debug ;) So, that was a pleasure to try to shed some light. > So, thanks! My pleasure... and if you have any news from any of these ISPs and need a confirmation, feel free to ask, Internet and its internals are my world ;) Paul -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: