From mahlamytsike at gmail.com  Wed Jan  3 01:56:53 2018
From: mahlamytsike at gmail.com (mahlamytsike at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 02:56:53 +0200
Subject: [Users] Probable bug: Claws Mail crashes when pasting longer text
 to editor window mail body
Message-ID: <20180103025653.394187ad@Twinhead>

Hi 

When pasting text to editor window mail body, the whole Claws Mail
first hangs and then disappears completely. Please refer comments
below in crash output.

Claws Mail 3.15.1-3.0
Enchant 2.1.2-3.0
Manjaro 32-bit

Attempted to edit saved draft in Local Mail folder. Claws shows edited
draft normally, but when attemting to edit this draft under Claws Mail
editor, the whole thing crashes again.

Temporary solution is when downgrading to Claws Mail 3.15.1-1 (among
with enchant 1.6.1-2).

Thank you !

Crash output:

$ claws-mail
claws.c:102:Starting Claws Mail version Claws Mail 3.15.1-dirty
utils.c:1817:using default rc_dir /home/mocambo/.claws-mail
main.c:2212:Using control
socket /tmp/claws-mail-1000/eceffe1aae78fe7f3780ae699ea57f7a
main.c:2307:another Claws Mail instance is already running.
<--in this point Claws Mail hangs-->
** (process:29636): WARNING **: Socket IO timeout

** (process:29636): WARNING **: [00:48:58] Socket IO timeout.

Claws Mail is already running on display .
<--in this point Claws Mail disappears-->


From colin at colino.net  Fri Jan  5 09:35:59 2018
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 09:35:59 +0100
Subject: [Users] Test, and sorry
Message-ID: <20180105093559.6b3810c5@colin.i-run.lau>

Hi everyone,

I'm sending this email to test if the mailing-lists are back up. I'm
sorry about the service staying broken since Dec 29th. 

My server died that day, and things went wrong with mailman during the
restore, and I just did not get time to fix it until now.

Thanks for your understanding,
-- 
Colin


From cae at eslrahc.com  Fri Jan  5 10:02:12 2018
From: cae at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 04:02:12 -0500
Subject: [Users] Viewing of HTML mails in 3.15.1 or 3.16.0
In-Reply-To: <20171229075145.5285e49b@fastmail.fm>
References: <20171229075145.5285e49b@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <20180105040212.0bc35938@Boss1800.eslrahc.com>

On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 07:51:45 -0500
Trey Sizemore wrote:

> I know I'm late to the party regarding HTML mails in claws, but wanted
> to find out the best current options for doing so.
> 
> I know that the fancy plugin has been removed due to Webkit issues.
> Is dillo still an option?  I don't see it in my 3.15.1 build on
> opensuse Tumbleweed and also installed 3.16.0 from a different repo.
> No plugins seem available for these to do the trick.
> 
> Will compiling from source do the trick?  I had done this many years
> ago, but have recently gotten back to my linux machine and claws again
> recently and would love to have this working.

If building from source both dillo and fancy plugins can still be built
but Neither are recommended.

For html mail that I wish to see|read I middle-click on the html icon
shown on the right hand border and the email in opened in my default
browser.


    Charles

-- 
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 11:11:02 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 10:11:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] Viewing of HTML mails in 3.15.1 or 3.16.0
In-Reply-To: <20171229075145.5285e49b@fastmail.fm>
References: <20171229075145.5285e49b@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <20180105101102.15d5a882@kujata>

On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 07:51:45 -0500
Trey Sizemore <trey at fastmail.fm> wrote: 

> I know that the fancy plugin has been removed due to Webkit
> issues.  Is dillo still an option?

The Fancy plugin is no longer available in some (most?) distros due
to the webkit library no longer being available, but it has not been
removed from our git repo or release tarballs.

The Fancy plugin is a better option than dillo because with the
former it is possible to block remote content, and with the latter it
is not.

I still use the Fancy plugin, after building webkit from source.

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 11:13:07 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 10:13:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] Latest GIT: Claws doesn't show body nor attachment
In-Reply-To: <20171229195729.077CB5FBB4@smtp.gramoulle.com>
References: <20171229195729.077CB5FBB4@smtp.gramoulle.com>
Message-ID: <20180105101307.735eb07c@kujata>

On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 20:57:28 +0100
Philippe Gramoullé <philippe at gramoulle.com> wrote: 

> I have received several mails lately , spam of course, and none of
> which shows the message and .7z attachment.
> 
> Mail shows up empty with no attachment.
> 
> Let me know if you'd like me to fill a bug. If any dev is interested
> in the offending mails, i'd rather send them offlist.

I suspect that is a broken msg format in the spam mails rather than a
bug in claws-mail. You can send me a copy if you're interested in
confirming that or not.

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 11:15:27 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 10:15:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] Probable bug: Claws Mail crashes when pasting longer
 text to editor window mail body
In-Reply-To: <20180103025653.394187ad@Twinhead>
References: <20180103025653.394187ad@Twinhead>
Message-ID: <20180105101527.384adebf@kujata>

On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 02:56:53 +0200
<mahlamytsike at gmail.com> wrote: 

> Temporary solution is when downgrading to Claws Mail 3.15.1-1 (among
> with enchant 1.6.1-2).

A couple users have visited the IRC channel with this problem. Are
you using arch? They were.

The crash is caused by enchant. You can downgrade enchant or just
disable spell checking in claws-mail.

with regards

Paul


From ricardo at mones.org  Fri Jan  5 11:20:52 2018
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 11:20:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] Test, and sorry
In-Reply-To: <20180105093559.6b3810c5@colin.i-run.lau>
References: <20180105093559.6b3810c5@colin.i-run.lau>
Message-ID: <20180105102052.5te6pmranpnft5fy@busgosu>

Hi Colin,

On Fri, Jan 05, 2018 at 09:35:59AM +0100, Colin Leroy wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I'm sending this email to test if the mailing-lists are back up. I'm
> sorry about the service staying broken since Dec 29th. 
> 
> My server died that day, and things went wrong with mailman during the
> restore, and I just did not get time to fix it until now.
> 
> Thanks for your understanding,

Thanks for maintaining it, and doing it for free ;-)

best regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  Quantity derives from measurement, figures from quantities, 
  comparisons from figures, and victories from comparisons. 
                                                              Sun Tzu

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan  2 14:27:13 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2018 13:27:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3940] Depends on unmaintained pygtk
In-Reply-To: <bug-3940-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3940-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3940-595-41EO3TMp5i@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3940

--- Comment #2 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> GObjectIntrospection means using GTK+3. Calling GObjectIntrospection for
> GTK+2 "unmaintained" would be an under-statement - I think it's never been
> really supported. So I don't think anything can be done to improve the
> situation at this moment.
> 
> Btw, GTK+2 itself is also unmaintained and has had its last release in 2011.
> Shipping it in your distro but leaving out other basic parts leaves your
> packages in a somewhat rotten, degraded state.

I agree with this last paragraph, notice the view of the distro is not the same
for all developers ;-)

The problem is not the level of maintenance, of course.

If you cut a tree it makes a lot of noise, but if you prune branch by branch
until the tree dies nobody will notice those branches falling. And in the end
you will also have more reasons to cut it, since it has no branches to support.

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From trey at fastmail.fm  Fri Jan  5 13:54:58 2018
From: trey at fastmail.fm (Trey Sizemore)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 07:54:58 -0500
Subject: [Users] Viewing of HTML mails in 3.15.1 or 3.16.0
In-Reply-To: <20180105101102.15d5a882@kujata>
References: <20171229075145.5285e49b@fastmail.fm>
 <20180105101102.15d5a882@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180105125137.GA22611@antergos>

On Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:11AM, Paul wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 07:51:45 -0500
> Trey Sizemore <trey at fastmail.fm> wrote: 
> 
> > I know that the fancy plugin has been removed due to Webkit
> > issues.  Is dillo still an option?
> 
> The Fancy plugin is no longer available in some (most?) distros due
> to the webkit library no longer being available, but it has not been
> removed from our git repo or release tarballs.
> 
> The Fancy plugin is a better option than dillo because with the
> former it is possible to block remote content, and with the latter it
> is not.
> 
> I still use the Fancy plugin, after building webkit from source.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul

Understood.  Thanks Paul!

-- 
Cheers,
Trey
----
 
The beauty of the soul shines out when a man bears 
with composure one heavy mischance after another, 
not because he does not feel them, but because
he is a man of high and heroic temper. 
                 --Aristotle
 
Linux antergos 4.14.10-1-ARCH x86_64
 07:51:03 up 20:31,  1 user,  load average: 0.75, 0.77, 0.59


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 14:09:10 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2018 13:09:10 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3941] New: Connecting to IMAP server: SSL/TLS
	handshake failed
Message-ID: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3941

            Bug ID: 3941
           Summary: Connecting to IMAP server: SSL/TLS handshake failed
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.15.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders/IMAP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: r.pretki at gmail.com

Created attachment 1831
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1831&action=edit
Log file [claws-mail --debug > /home/[name]/LOG.txt]

I'm reporting an error related to signing in to IMAP.

When I try to open any IMAP folder, the claws mail returns the following error:

    * Account '[wycięte]': Connecting to IMAP server: imap.[wycięte].com:993...
    *** SSL/TLS handshake failed

This applies to all IMAP folders I have. Regardless of the email service
provider. I do not have e-mail set to POP.

Using the claws-mail --debug > /home/[name]/LOG.txt  option returns the
following result:

    ** Message: filtering log disabled
    ** Message: Account '[hidden address]': Connecting to IMAP server:
imap.kolabnow.com:993...
    ** (claws-mail:7228): WARNING **: [13:26:09] SSL/TLS handshake failed
    (claws-mail:7228): Claws-Mail-CRITICAL **: imap_scan_required: assertion
'session != NULL' failed
    ** Message: Account '[hidden address]': Connecting to IMAP server:
imap.gmail.com:993...
    ** (claws-mail:7228): WARNING **: [13:26:13] SSL/TLS handshake failed
    (claws-mail:7228): Claws-Mail-CRITICAL **: imap_scan_required: assertion
'session != NULL' failed

Fresh installation does not help. Removing the ".claws-mail" directory and
clean launch also does not help.

My environment:
Claws Mail 3.15.1-dirty
openSUSE Tumbleweed 20171230 + KDE
Linux version 4.14.10-1.ga9b9f85-default (geeko at buildhost) (gcc version 7.2.1
20171020 [gcc-7-branch revision 253932] (SUSE Linux))

Reproducible: always

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 14:36:24 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2018 13:36:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3941] Connecting to IMAP server: SSL/TLS handshake
	failed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3941-595-Kak7fxqrbj@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3941

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
the attached log file does not include a connection attempt so is of "limited
use".

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From robotico at posteo.es  Fri Jan  5 15:24:09 2018
From: robotico at posteo.es (robotico at posteo.es)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 14:24:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] Qubes 3.2 Split GPG with Claws mail client?
Message-ID: <20180105142409.61045846.robotico@posteo.es>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

Hello, Claws users.

Does anybody know how to configure Claws mail client using Qubes' Split
GPG?

Would it be possible at all? 

(In Thunderbird's Enigmail you override gpg folder setting
with /usr/bin/qubes-gpg-client-wrapper,
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/split-gpg/.)

Thanks!

R.
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 15:34:56 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 14:34:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] Qubes 3.2 Split GPG with Claws mail client?
In-Reply-To: <20180105142409.61045846.robotico@posteo.es>
References: <20180105142409.61045846.robotico@posteo.es>
Message-ID: <20180105143456.0d5d629e@kujata>

On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 14:24:09 +0000
<robotico at posteo.es> wrote: 

> Does anybody know how to configure Claws mail client using Qubes'
> Split GPG?
> 
> Would it be possible at all? 

Did you try entering `/usr/bin/qubes-gpg-client-wrapper` in the 'Path
to GnuPG executable' option?

(I think that this option might not be in the old version of
claws-mail (3.11.1) which you are using, which was released more than
3 years ago. You really should upgrade!!)

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 15:33:03 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2018 14:33:03 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3941] Connecting to IMAP server: SSL/TLS handshake
	failed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3941-595-YlStUYf4hw@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3941

--- Comment #2 from Michael Rasmussen <mir at datanom.net> ---
Have you tried using STARTTLS instead?

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From liste at secarica.ro  Fri Jan  5 16:57:10 2018
From: liste at secarica.ro (Cristian =?UTF-8?Q?Secar=C4=83?=)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 17:57:10 +0200
Subject: [Users] cursor going to the newest message ?
Message-ID: <20180105175710.00004ac1@secarica.ro>

How can I convince Claws Mail 3.16.0 so that, when entering a folder
with some new messages, the cursor will go on the newest unread message
– that is the one on very top of them ? Right now it goes to the oldest
of the unread ones, which may be somewhere down in list, minutes, hours
or days ago.

Cristi

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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Fri Jan  5 17:24:00 2018
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 16:24:00 +0000
Subject: [Users] cursor going to the newest message ?
In-Reply-To: <20180105175710.00004ac1@secarica.ro>
References: <20180105175710.00004ac1@secarica.ro>
Message-ID: <20180105162400.7b1c9adb@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 17:57:10 +0200
Cristian Secară <liste at secarica.ro> wrote:

Hello Cristian,

>How can I convince Claws Mail 3.16.0 so that, when entering a folder
>with some new messages, the cursor will go on the newest unread message

Preferences, Display/Summaries "Set default action when entering a
folder" is what you're looking for.

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From pf at pfortin.com  Fri Jan  5 18:10:34 2018
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 12:10:34 -0500
Subject: [Users] cursor going to the newest message ?
In-Reply-To: <20180105175710.00004ac1@secarica.ro>
References: <20180105175710.00004ac1@secarica.ro>
Message-ID: <20180105121034.57de00a0@pfortin.com>

On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 17:57:10 +0200 Cristian Secară wrote:

>How can I convince Claws Mail 3.16.0 so that, when entering a folder
>with some new messages, the cursor will go on the newest unread message
>– that is the one on very top of them ? Right now it goes to the oldest
>of the unread ones, which may be somewhere down in list, minutes, hours
>or days ago.
>
>Cristi
>

Configuration->Preferences->Display->Summaries
  click: Set default selection when entering a folder


From liste at secarica.ro  Fri Jan  5 18:29:52 2018
From: liste at secarica.ro (Cristian =?UTF-8?Q?Secar=C4=83?=)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 19:29:52 +0200
Subject: [Users] cursor going to the newest message ?
In-Reply-To: <20180105162400.7b1c9adb@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20180105175710.00004ac1@secarica.ro>
 <20180105162400.7b1c9adb@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20180105192952.000068fb@secarica.ro>

În data de Fri, 5 Jan 2018 16:24:00 +0000, Brad Rogers a scris:

> Preferences, Display/Summaries "Set default action when entering a
> folder" is what you're looking for.

That seems to have worked, though totally counterintuitive: I was there previously looking for something like "newest unread", but which does not exist; now I played at random with some of those existing and it seems that newest unread == not {first unread} and so (hopefully) removing the later from that list appears to determine the desired behaviour.

Thank you,
Cristi

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 19:20:53 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2018 18:20:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3942] New: Claws Mail 64bit crashes at save or autosave
Message-ID: <bug-3942-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3942

            Bug ID: 3942
           Summary: Claws Mail 64bit crashes at save or autosave
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.16.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 8
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: bugz at secarica.ro

Claws Mail 64bit, running on Windows 8.1 64 bit, crashes immediately when
composing a message and either (1) characters count reaches 50 or whatever
number is set in global config for autosave or (2) when saving the draft on
purpose (Ctrl+S or via menu).

Happens the same if upgraded over 3.15.x or clean fresh install.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 19:22:07 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2018 18:22:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3941] Connecting to IMAP server: SSL/TLS handshake
	failed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3941-595-V6I1ocSyXn@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3941

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Created attachment 1832
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1832&action=edit
LOG-2 file [claws-mail --debug]

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 19:22:25 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2018 18:22:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3941] Connecting to IMAP server: SSL/TLS handshake
	failed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3941-595-4NduSzQAKJ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3941

--- Comment #4 from r.pretki at gmail.com ---
@Paul
I did not exclude any login items.
I'm adding a new log. I used "claws-mail --debug" option.

@Michael Rasmussen
Yes. I also tried this before reporting the bug. Setting STARTTLS does not
help.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 19:41:24 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2018 18:41:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3941] Connecting to IMAP server: SSL/TLS handshake
	failed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3941-595-4JHCsnfcre@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3941

--- Comment #5 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
what is the output of these 2 commands?:

$ libetpan-config --libs
$ libetpan-config --version

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From rob at hoelz.ro  Fri Jan  5 20:13:12 2018
From: rob at hoelz.ro (Rob Hoelz)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 13:13:12 -0600
Subject: [Users] Building claws-mail 3.16.0 with GTK3/GTK3 port status
Message-ID: <20180105131312.35311ab5@eridanus>

Hi claws-mail devs and users,

Like many of you, I have been looking for ways of viewing HTML e-mails since the deprecation of the webkitgtk2-based fancy plugin.  I saw someone took a stab
at porting the fancy plugin to webkit2gtk-4.0 [1], which relies on GTK3.  Last week I tried to compile claws-mail 3.16.0 against GTK3 (using --enable-gtk3), but
encountered a bunch of errors - is work to port claws-mail to GTK3 still ongoing, or is it stalled?  I'm happy to share my (admittedly crappy) patch that I wrote
to get things to compile and help to get claws-mail working with GTK3 so we users could have a secure HTML viewer once again, but I thought I would check in first
and see where things stand with GTK3.

Thanks,
Rob

[1] http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2017-November/020295.html


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 20:36:26 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 19:36:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] Building claws-mail 3.16.0 with GTK3/GTK3 port status
In-Reply-To: <20180105131312.35311ab5@eridanus>
References: <20180105131312.35311ab5@eridanus>
Message-ID: <20180105193626.1ecb6d3a@kujata>

On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 13:13:12 -0600
Rob Hoelz <rob at hoelz.ro> wrote: 

> is work to port claws-mail to GTK3 still ongoing, or is it stalled?

It's somewhere in between - it's not stalled but the going is slow
currently.

Patches welcome!!

with regards

Paul


From rob at hoelz.ro  Fri Jan  5 21:44:30 2018
From: rob at hoelz.ro (Rob Hoelz)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 14:44:30 -0600
Subject: [Users] Building claws-mail 3.16.0 with GTK3/GTK3 port status
In-Reply-To: <20180105193626.1ecb6d3a@kujata>
References: <20180105131312.35311ab5@eridanus> <20180105193626.1ecb6d3a@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180105144430.4d2ac17c@eridanus>

On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 19:36:26 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 13:13:12 -0600
> Rob Hoelz <rob at hoelz.ro> wrote: 
> 
> > is work to port claws-mail to GTK3 still ongoing, or is it stalled?
> 
> It's somewhere in between - it's not stalled but the going is slow
> currently.
> 
> Patches welcome!!
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

That's great to hear!  I'll need to clean up my patch then =)  Is there a forum or something for discussing GTK3 work, or should I use this list? I assume I should work off of the Git repository as well?

-Rob


From robotico at posteo.es  Fri Jan  5 23:11:13 2018
From: robotico at posteo.es (robotico at posteo.es)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 22:11:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] Qubes 3.2 Split GPG with Claws mail client?
In-Reply-To: <20180105143456.0d5d629e@kujata>
References: <20180105142409.61045846.robotico@posteo.es>
 <20180105143456.0d5d629e@kujata>
Message-ID: <3zCzQp2Yllz9rxF@submission02.posteo.de>

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On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 14:34:56 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 14:24:09 +0000
> <robotico at posteo.es> wrote: 
> 
> > Does anybody know how to configure Claws mail client using Qubes'
> > Split GPG?
 
> Did you try entering `/usr/bin/qubes-gpg-client-wrapper` in the 'Path
> to GnuPG executable' option?
 
> (I think that this option might not be in the old version of
> claws-mail (3.11.1) which you are using, which was released more than
> 3 years ago. You really should upgrade!!)

Thanks a lot! I'm on version 3.14.1 now, in another, Debian 9 based VM,
which should work.

However, Claws shows me the error "Gpgme protocol 'OpenPGP' is unusable:
Engine '/usr/bin/qubes-gpg-client'* version 1.0.0 is installed, but
version 1.4.0 is required" at startup.

(QubesSplit GPG uses GPG2 under the hood – gpg (GnuPG) 2.2.3
libgcrypt 1.7.9).

*I think, it has to be 'qubes-gpg-client' in '… GnuPG executable'
instead of '… client-wrapper' as in Enigmail.

Any ideas?

Best regards,

Rob

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From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net  Fri Jan  5 23:12:42 2018
From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter Richards)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:12:42 +1100
Subject: [Users] cursor going to the newest message ?
In-Reply-To: <20180105162400.7b1c9adb@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20180105175710.00004ac1@secarica.ro>
 <20180105162400.7b1c9adb@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20180106091242.53014a29@peter-Inspiron-3542>

On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 16:24:00 +0000
Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 17:57:10 +0200
> Cristian Secară <liste at secarica.ro> wrote:
> 
> Hello Cristian,
> 
> >How can I convince Claws Mail 3.16.0 so that, when entering a folder
> >with some new messages, the cursor will go on the newest unread
> >message  
> 
> Preferences, Display/Summaries "Set default action when entering a
> folder" is what you're looking for.

Wow, it works. That has been one minor annoyance with Claws, as usually
with all folders, I want it to position where the last read email was.

Now to just have it 'display' the contents of that message. Currently I
have to click it with the mouse, as the view is blank.

Thanks,

Peter



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 23:23:56 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 22:23:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] cursor going to the newest message ?
In-Reply-To: <20180106091242.53014a29@peter-Inspiron-3542>
References: <20180105175710.00004ac1@secarica.ro>
 <20180105162400.7b1c9adb@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20180106091242.53014a29@peter-Inspiron-3542>
Message-ID: <20180105222356.5f2f3165@kujata>

On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:12:42 +1100
Peter Richards <peter777 at users.sourceforge.net> wrote: 

> Now to just have it 'display' the contents of that message.
> Currently I have to click it with the mouse, as the view is blank.

Same preference page, check the box for 'Always' in the 'Open message
when selected' frame. (But perhaps this has changed since the version
of Claws Mail which you use (3.13.2, released 2 years ago.)

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 21:07:54 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2018 20:07:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3917] CM getting slower when retrieving mail
In-Reply-To: <bug-3917-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3917-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3917-595-EXZkOc6FQa@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3917

--- Comment #4 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
I too have found four messages in one of the processing-* folders, dated
several months ago, so I don't think this is something new in 3.16.0.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 21:16:48 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2018 20:16:48 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3919] manual filtering does not move spam
In-Reply-To: <bug-3919-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3919-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3919-595-okHeXtHtLN@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3919

--- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
I think I know what is going on. A while ago, the action "mark_as_spam" used to
also move the marked message to a spam folder. That was changed in 2015, in
this commit:
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=8549b2a

The idea was for users to add an explicit move action if they wanted to have
the messages moved.

However, I seem to have missed the fact that "mark_as_spam" is considered by
Claws Mail as one of "final actions", after which any processing stops. See
here:
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=blob;f=src/filtering.c#l774

It seems that solution would be to remove this action from there. Pierre or
Shai, can you recompile with the line "case MATCHACTION_MARK_AS_SPAM:" removed
and test if the processing continues past that action?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 21:55:19 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2018 20:55:19 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3941] Connecting to IMAP server: SSL/TLS handshake
	failed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3941-595-85YzUvLnaX@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3941

--- Comment #6 from r.pretki at gmail.com ---
Thank you very much for your interest in my problem!

Zypper shows that I have libetpan17 (1.6-1.11), but the effect of using the
commands indicated by you is empty:

name at hostname:~> libetpan-config --libs
bash: /usr/bin/libetpan-config: No such file or directory
name at hostname:~> libetpan-config --version
bash: /usr/bin/libetpan-config: No such file or directory

name at hostname:~> sudo libetpan-config --libs
sudo: libetpan-config: command not found
name at hostname:~> sudo libetpan-config --version
sudo: libetpan-config: command not found

I decided to additionally install libetpan-devel (1.6-1.11) (and two
dependencies: cyrus-sasl-devel and libdb-4_8-devel):

Installing cyrus-sasl-devel-2.1.26-16.1.x86_64.rpm (installed size 1,25 MiB)
Installing libdb-4_8-devel-4.8.30-33.1.x86_64.rpm (installed size 154,1 KiB)
Installing libetpan-devel-1.6-1.11.x86_64.rpm (installed size 1,13 MiB)

The effect of using commands you specify is as follows:

name at hostname:~> libetpan-config --libs
-L/usr/lib64 -letpan -lz -ldb-4.8 -lz -pthread -lsasl2

name at hostname:~> libetpan-config --version
1.6

I tried to run claws-mail. The error still occurs. No changes.

Below you can find information about packages:

name at hostname:~> sudo zypper se libetpan
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...

libetpan-debugsource | Debug sources for package libetpan | package
libetpan-devel | Mail handling library | package
libetpan17 | Mail handling library | package
libetpan17-debuginfo | Debug information for package libetpan17 | package

name at hostname:~> sudo zypper if libetpan17
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
Information for package libetpan17:
-----------------------------------
Repository     : openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss
Name           : libetpan17             
Version        : 1.6-1.11               
Arch           : x86_64                 
Vendor         : openSUSE               
Installed Size : 982,7 KiB              
Installed      : Yes (automatically)    
Status         : up-to-date             
Source package : libetpan-1.6-1.11.src  
Summary        : Mail handling library  
Description    :                        
    libEtPan is a mail purpose library. It will be used for low-level mail
    handling : network protocols (IMAP/NNTP/POP3/SMTP over TCP/IP and
    SSL/TCP/IP, already implemented), local storage (mbox/MH/maildir),
    message / MIME parse

name at hostname:~> sudo zypper if libetpan-devel
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
Information for package libetpan-devel:
---------------------------------------
Repository     : openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss
Name           : libetpan-devel         
Version        : 1.6-1.11               
Arch           : x86_64                 
Vendor         : openSUSE               
Installed Size : 1,1 MiB                
Installed      : Yes                    
Status         : up-to-date             
Source package : libetpan-1.6-1.11.src  
Summary        : Mail handling library  
Description    :                        
    libEtPan is a mail purpose library. It will be used for low-level mail
    handling : network protocols (IMAP/NNTP/POP3/SMTP over TCP/IP and
    SSL/TCP/IP, already implemented), local storage (mbox/MH/maildir),
    message / MIME parse

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 23:31:37 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2018 22:31:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3941] Connecting to IMAP server: SSL/TLS handshake
	failed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3941-595-jYPr2S7Cts@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3941

--- Comment #7 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
(In reply to comment #6)
> name at hostname:~> libetpan-config --libs
> -L/usr/lib64 -letpan -lz -ldb-4.8 -lz -pthread -lsasl2

That looks suspect. Here is the output on my system:

$ libetpan-config --libs
-L/usr/lib64 -letpan -lcurl -lexpat -lz -lgnutls -lgcrypt -lgpg-error -lz
-ldb-5.3 -lz -llockfile -pthread -lsasl2

It looks like your libetpan is not compiled with gnutls support, and that would
explain the failure it has in attempting the encrypted connection.

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan  5 23:39:43 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 22:39:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] Building claws-mail 3.16.0 with GTK3/GTK3 port status
In-Reply-To: <20180105144430.4d2ac17c@eridanus>
References: <20180105131312.35311ab5@eridanus> <20180105193626.1ecb6d3a@kujata>
 <20180105144430.4d2ac17c@eridanus>
Message-ID: <20180105223943.50f55b04@kujata>

On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 14:44:30 -0600
Rob Hoelz <rob at hoelz.ro> wrote: 

> Is there a forum or something for discussing GTK3 work, or should I
> use this list?

The IRC channel is good for quick responses at certain times of day.
http://www.claws-mail.org/MLs.php

> I assume I should work off of the Git repository as well?

Yes.

with regards

Paul


From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net  Sat Jan  6 01:52:46 2018
From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter Richards)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 11:52:46 +1100
Subject: [Users] cursor going to the newest message ?
In-Reply-To: <20180105222356.5f2f3165@kujata>
References: <20180105175710.00004ac1@secarica.ro>
 <20180105162400.7b1c9adb@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20180106091242.53014a29@peter-Inspiron-3542>
 <20180105222356.5f2f3165@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180106115246.13a0c3b0@peter-Inspiron-3542>

On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 22:23:56 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:12:42 +1100
> Peter Richards <peter777 at users.sourceforge.net> wrote: 
> 
> > Now to just have it 'display' the contents of that message.
> > Currently I have to click it with the mouse, as the view is blank.  
> 
> Same preference page, check the box for 'Always' in the 'Open message
> when selected' frame. (But perhaps this has changed since the version
> of Claws Mail which you use (3.13.2, released 2 years ago.)

Thanks very much Paul, works fine.  :)

I have Kubuntu 17.10 to install soon, so hopefully I will be on a more
recent version of Claws then.

Regards,

Peter


From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Sat Jan  6 01:53:59 2018
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 16:53:59 -0800
Subject: [Users] RSSyl: disable some feed
Message-ID: <20180105165359.5bb53e76@frogguski.sritch.com>

CM 3.16.0 with RSSyl.

I have dozens and dozens of feeds. I'm very happy with RRsyl, but I
have a few dead feeds that I want to keep but no point in having:

> [16:43:30] RSSyl: Updating feed: http://mpkelley.com/blog/rss.xml
> *** RSSyl: No valid feed found at 'http://mpkelley.com/blog/rss.xml'

How can I disable the feeds without deleting them?

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vyS


From claws at slashproc.org  Sat Jan  6 02:18:06 2018
From: claws at slashproc.org (Manfred Schmitt)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 02:18:06 +0100
Subject: [Users] RSSyl: disable some feed
In-Reply-To: <20180105165359.5bb53e76@frogguski.sritch.com>
References: <20180105165359.5bb53e76@frogguski.sritch.com>
Message-ID: <20180106021806.4efc467c@e6520.bassdart.slashproc.org>

sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:
> 
> How can I disable the feeds without deleting them?
> 
Set the refresh interval to 0 in the feed properties of the feed.

Bye,
Manne


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Fri Jan  5 19:12:53 2018
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 18:12:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] cursor going to the newest message ?
In-Reply-To: <20180105192952.000068fb@secarica.ro>
References: <20180105175710.00004ac1@secarica.ro>
 <20180105162400.7b1c9adb@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20180105192952.000068fb@secarica.ro>
Message-ID: <20180105181253.00ef5e6d@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 19:29:52 +0200
Cristian Secară <liste at secarica.ro> wrote:

Hello Cristian,

>previously looking for something like "newest unread", but which does
>not exist;

It's listed under Possible Actions here.  You have to drag it across
to the other half of the window for it to be used.

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        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
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From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net  Sat Jan  6 07:42:25 2018
From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter Richards)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 17:42:25 +1100
Subject: [Users] Tooltip - background colours
Message-ID: <20180106174225.7594983c@peter-Inspiron-3542>

Hi,

I'm just needing to look at this one again, as I never did get it
solved. The original post is at:

http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2017-May/019219.html

where I can't see what the tooltip is, because the background and
foreground are the same colour (or almost the same).

From Paul's reply below, it is a GTK+ 2 theme problem.

On Fri, 5 May 2017 07:06:34 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 5 May 2017 13:18:25 +1000
> Peter Richards <peter777 at users.sourceforge.net> wrote: 
>   
> > Is it possible to run Claws in debug mode, to try and see what is
> > causing this ?    
> 
> That won't help. Those colours are controlled by your GTK+ 2 theme.

The same problem is happening in other GTK+ 2 apps, like GIMP.

I have looked at the colours in system settings, and the tooltip is set
to white foreground and black background.

I'm just not sure where to start looking to fix this. If there are any
other Kubuntu 16.04.3 users on this list, possibly they have been able
to enable some sort of workaround ??

Regards,

Peter


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jan  6 00:57:58 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2018 23:57:58 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3917] CM getting slower when retrieving mail
In-Reply-To: <bug-3917-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3917-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3917-595-intE8IRqIs@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3917

--- Comment #5 from Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> ---
Right. This bug was opened a full month before 3.16.0  :) 
I don't recall changing the version above; but may have...

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jan  6 00:58:04 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2018 23:58:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3919] manual filtering does not move spam
In-Reply-To: <bug-3919-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3919-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3919-595-qL6YcWojfL@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3919

--- Comment #3 from Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> ---
Compiled and running.  It now moves the msg on manual filtering; will have to
wait for spam to check auto filtering.

If mark_as_spam no longer moves messages, then shouldn't the spamassassin
option:
     "[X] Save spam in [_____________] [Browse]" 
be removed since an explicit "move" is required in Filtering?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jan  6 01:13:59 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2018 00:13:59 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3919] manual filtering does not move spam
In-Reply-To: <bug-3919-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3919-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3919-595-DL7tatwb4e@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3919

--- Comment #4 from Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> ---
Oops...  I missed something regarding the spamassassin option -- it's still
needed for automatic spam filtering via the plug-in v. matcherrc filtering.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jan  6 10:39:15 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2018 09:39:15 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3941] Connecting to IMAP server: SSL/TLS handshake
	failed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3941-595-JWiiprafL7@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3941

--- Comment #8 from r.pretki at gmail.com ---
I think you're right.

I replaced the repository with claws-mail and libetpan:

from: https://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/suse/x86_64/
claws-mail-3.15.1-2.1.x86_64.rpm
libetpan17-1.6-1.11.x86_64.rpm

to:
https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/mail/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/x86_64/
claws-mail-3.16.0-1.2.x86_64.rpm
libetpan20-1.8-28.1.x86_64.rpm

Unfortunately, I did not find the right libetpan to substitute, which would
allow full verification (without changing the claws-mail version). Claws-mail
3.15 did not work with libetpan 1.8.

Currently the problem has disappeared. Everything is working properly.

Thank you very much for help. I think that this bug reporting can be closed.

If you want to take a look at my RPMs files, in the links above you will find
RPMs that I have installed (previously and now). Because of the size, the first
repository loads in the web browser a bit longer. Below you will find direct
links:
https://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/suse/x86_64/claws-mail-3.15.1-2.1.x86_64.rpm
https://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/suse/x86_64/libetpan17-1.6-1.11.x86_64.rpm

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jan  6 10:41:51 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2018 09:41:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3941] Connecting to IMAP server: SSL/TLS handshake
	failed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3941-595-dnOSvYLY97@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3941

r.pretki at gmail.com changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |WORKSFORME

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jan  6 10:49:46 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2018 09:49:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3941] Connecting to IMAP server: SSL/TLS handshake
	failed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3941-595-q9C1YoDdkb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3941

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
         Resolution|WORKSFORME                  |INVALID

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jan  6 10:50:11 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2018 09:50:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3919] manual filtering does not move spam
In-Reply-To: <bug-3919-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3919-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3919-595-FI1IFqmuk0@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3919

--- Comment #5 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Indeed. The mark_as_spam action only tells the spamassassin plugin to "learn"
the marked message as spam (train its database using the message contents).

On the other hand, during automatic scan on receiving, the plugin:
- scans the message and determines whether it is spam or not,
- uses it to train its database accordingly,
- moves the message if configured to do so.

The option you mention is roughly equivalent to you adding a "move" action
after "mark_as_spam" in your manual TLD-based filtering rule. Then the
procedure, in comparison to above is:
- the rule conditions determine whether the message is spam or not,
- the mark_as_spam action triggers the learning
- the move action triggers the move

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From philippe at gramoulle.com  Sat Jan  6 13:47:18 2018
From: philippe at gramoulle.com (Philippe =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Gramoull=E9?=)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 13:47:18 +0100
Subject: [Users] Latest GIT: Claws doesn't show body nor attachment
In-Reply-To: <20180105101307.735eb07c@kujata>
References: <20171229195729.077CB5FBB4@smtp.gramoulle.com>
 <20180105101307.735eb07c@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180106124719.BE8AC5FBB9@smtp.gramoulle.com>

On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 10:13:07 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 20:57:28 +0100
> Philippe Gramoullé <philippe at gramoulle.com> wrote: 
> 
> > I have received several mails lately , spam of course, and none of
> > which shows the message and .7z attachment.
> > 
> > Mail shows up empty with no attachment.
> > 
> > Let me know if you'd like me to fill a bug. If any dev is interested
> > in the offending mails, i'd rather send them offlist.  
> 
> I suspect that is a broken msg format in the spam mails rather than a
> bug in claws-mail. You can send me a copy if you're interested in
> confirming that or not.
> 
Hi Paul,

This is indeed probably the case. Still, out of 3 different emails that
show this behavior, the Mail (Apple) application was able to read
correctly 2 of them. I've sent you the offending mails

Thanks much,

Philippe


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jan  6 13:25:55 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2018 12:25:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3919] manual filtering does not move spam
In-Reply-To: <bug-3919-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3919-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3919-595-Txqbwi81V6@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3919

--- Comment #6 from Shai Berger <shai at platonix.com> ---
Is the list of final operations documented anywhere? I wouldn't have added a
"stop" after every "move" in my rules if I had known...

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jan  6 14:26:15 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2018 13:26:15 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3943] New: 3.16.0 crashes with config from 3.15.1 and
	older
Message-ID: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3943

            Bug ID: 3943
           Summary: 3.16.0 crashes with config from 3.15.1 and older
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.16.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: mschwendt at fedoraproject.org

I've posted about this to the mailing-list without receiving any response:
http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2017-December/020541.html

An upgrade to Claws Mail 3.16.0 crashes early for me with a configuration
that works fine with 3.15.1 and older. When downgrading to 3.15.1, that one
still works. Environment is Fedora 27 x86_64.

I've rebuilt the folder tree in 3.15.1, but that doesn't help either.

Thread 5 (Thread 0x7fffde536700 (LWP 29672)):
#0  0x00007ffff2c760d9 in syscall () from /lib64/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#1  0x00007ffff35fb66a in g_cond_wait_until () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#2  0x00007ffff358a381 in g_async_queue_pop_intern_unlocked ()
   from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#3  0x00007ffff35dde64 in g_thread_pool_thread_proxy () from
/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#4  0x00007ffff35dd4c6 in g_thread_proxy () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#5  0x00007ffff4585609 in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#6  0x00007ffff2c7be6f in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.

Thread 4 (Thread 0x7fffded37700 (LWP 29671)):
#0  0x00007ffff2c760d9 in syscall () from /lib64/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#1  0x00007ffff35fb66a in g_cond_wait_until () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#2  0x00007ffff358a381 in g_async_queue_pop_intern_unlocked ()
   from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#3  0x00007ffff35dde64 in g_thread_pool_thread_proxy () from
/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#4  0x00007ffff35dd4c6 in g_thread_proxy () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#5  0x00007ffff4585609 in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#6  0x00007ffff2c7be6f in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.

Thread 3 (Thread 0x7fffdf538700 (LWP 29670)):
#0  0x00007ffff2c6f8bb in poll () from /lib64/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#1  0x00007ffff35b5ed9 in g_main_context_iterate.isra () from
/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#2  0x00007ffff35b6272 in g_main_loop_run () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#3  0x00007ffff6005b36 in gdbus_shared_thread_func () from
/lib64/libgio-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#4  0x00007ffff35dd4c6 in g_thread_proxy () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#5  0x00007ffff4585609 in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#6  0x00007ffff2c7be6f in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.

Thread 2 (Thread 0x7fffdfd39700 (LWP 29669)):
#0  0x00007ffff2c6f8bb in poll () from /lib64/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#1  0x00007ffff35b5ed9 in g_main_context_iterate.isra () from
/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#2  0x00007ffff35b5fec in g_main_context_iteration () from
/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#3  0x00007ffff35b6031 in glib_worker_main () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#4  0x00007ffff35dd4c6 in g_thread_proxy () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#5  0x00007ffff4585609 in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#6  0x00007ffff2c7be6f in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.

Thread 1 (Thread 0x7ffff7faff80 (LWP 29665)):
#0  0x00007ffff2ce5988 in __strchr_avx2 () from /lib64/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#1  0x0000555555834ad6 in make_dir_hier (dir=dir at entry=0x0) at utils.c:2186
        parent_dir = <optimized out>
        p = <optimized out>
#2  0x00005555556e3d6a in imap_get_num_list (folder=0x555556149600, 
    _item=0x55555619f290, msgnum_list=0x7fffffff6620,
old_uids_valid=0x7fffffff661c)
    at imap.c:4596
        item = 0x55555619f290
        session = <optimized out>
        uidlist = 0x0
        dir = <optimized out>
        known_list_len = <optimized out>
        path = 0x0
        __func__ = "imap_get_num_list"
#3  0x00005555556c85ec in folder_item_scan_full
(item=item at entry=0x55555619f290, 
    filtering=filtering at entry=1) at folder.c:2161
        folder = 0x555556149600
        folder_list = 0x0
        cache_list = 0x0
        folder_list_cur = <optimized out>
        cache_list_cur = <optimized out>
        new_list = 0x0
        exists_list = 0x0
        elem = <optimized out>
        newmsg_list = 0x0
        newcnt = 0
        unreadcnt = 0
        totalcnt = 0
        markedcnt = 0
        unreadmarkedcnt = 0
        repliedcnt = 0
        forwardedcnt = 0
        lockedcnt = 0
        ignoredcnt = 0
        watchedcnt = 0
        cache_max_num = <optimized out>
        folder_max_num = <optimized out>
        cache_cur_num = <optimized out>
        folder_cur_num = <optimized out>
        update_flags = 0
        old_uids_valid = 1
        subject_table = 0x0
#4  0x00005555556c96cb in folder_item_read_cache
(item=item at entry=0x55555619f290)
    at folder.c:2662
        unreadcnt = 0
        unreadmarkedcnt = 0
        lockedcnt = 0
        msginfo = <optimized out>
        cur = <optimized out>
        markedcnt = 0
        repliedcnt = 0
        watchedcnt = 0
        newcnt = 0
        forwardedcnt = 0
        ignoredcnt = 0
        cache_file = 0x0
        mark_file = 0x0
        tags_file = 0x7fffd0008950
"/home/ms27/.claws-mail/tagsdb/#imap/GMX/Queue/.claws_tags"
        start = {tv_sec = 1514150424, tv_usec = 560996}
        end = {tv_sec = 93825004145152, tv_usec = 93825000506352}
        diff = <optimized out>
        timing_name = 0x555555942dd5 ""
        __FUNCTION__ = "folder_item_read_cache"
#5  0x00005555556c9e78 in folder_item_get_msg_list (item=0x55555619f290)
    at folder.c:2823
No locals.
#6  0x00005555556d3138 in folderview_update_node (folderview=<optimized out>, 
    node=<optimized out>) at folderview.c:1698
        ctree = <optimized out>
        style = <optimized out>
        color_style = <optimized out>
        item = <optimized out>
        xpm = <optimized out>
        openxpm = <optimized out>
        searchicon = 0x0
        mark = <optimized out>
        name = <optimized out>
        str = <optimized out>
        add_unread_mark = <optimized out>
        add_sub_match_mark = <optimized out>
        use_bold = <optimized out>
        use_color = <optimized out>
        col_pos = <optimized out>
        stype = <optimized out>
#7  0x00005555556d3837 in folderview_gnode_func (ctree=<optimized out>, 
    depth=<optimized out>, gnode=<optimized out>, cnode=<optimized out>, 
    data=<optimized out>) at folderview.c:1823
        folderview = <optimized out>
        item = <optimized out>
#8  0x000055555587e146 in gtk_sctree_insert_gnode
(ctree=ctree at entry=0x555555d383f0, 
    parent=parent at entry=0x5555561a8d40, sibling=sibling at entry=0x5555561a8da0, 
    gnode=gnode at entry=0x55555618fef0, 
    func=func at entry=0x5555556d3810 <folderview_gnode_func>, 
    data=data at entry=0x555555f6de00) at gtksctree.c:1924
        clist = 0x555555d383f0
        cnode = 0x5555561a9a00
        child = 0x0
        new_child = <optimized out>
        list = 0x5555561a9a00
        work = <optimized out>
        depth = 2
#9  0x000055555587e1e4 in gtk_sctree_insert_gnode (ctree=0x555555d383f0, 
    parent=<optimized out>, sibling=<optimized out>, gnode=0x555556166f90, 
    func=0x5555556d3810 <folderview_gnode_func>, data=0x555555f6de00)
    at gtksctree.c:1947
        clist = 0x555555d383f0
        cnode = 0x5555561a8d40
        child = 0x5555561a8da0
        new_child = <optimized out>
        list = 0x5555561a8d40
        work = 0x55555618fef0
        depth = 1
#10 0x00005555556d5c0a in folderview_set_folders (folderview=<optimized out>)
    at folderview.c:1905
        list = <optimized out>
#11 folderview_set (folderview=<optimized out>) at folderview.c:797
        ctree = <optimized out>
        mainwin = <optimized out>
        sel_item = <optimized out>
        op_item = <optimized out>
#12 0x00005555556d6070 in folderview_update_folder (source=<optimized out>, 
    userdata=<optimized out>) at folderview.c:2964
        hookdata = <optimized out>
        folderview = <optimized out>
        ctree = <optimized out>
#13 0x0000555555820287 in hooks_marshal (hook=<optimized out>,
data=0x7fffffffba30)
    at hooks.c:107
        func = <optimized out>
        marshal_data = 0x7fffffffba30
#14 0x00007ffff35a6524 in g_hook_list_marshal () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#15 0x0000555555820979 in hooks_invoke (
    hooklist_name=hooklist_name at entry=0x555555895f59 "folder_update", 
    source=source at entry=0x7fffffffca80) at hooks.c:125
        hooklist = <optimized out>
        marshal_data = {source = 0x7fffffffca80, abort = 0}
#16 0x00005555556c34a8 in folder_add (folder=0x555556149600) at folder.c:805
        cur_folder = <optimized out>
        cur = <optimized out>
        i = <optimized out>
        hookdata = {folder = 0x555556149600, update_flags = FOLDER_ADD_FOLDER, 
          item = 0x0, item2 = 0x0}
#17 0x00005555556c7908 in folder_read_list () at folder.c:852
        folder = <optimized out>
        node = 0x7fffd0012330
        cur = 0x7fffd0007b20
        xmlnode = <optimized out>
        path = <optimized out>
#18 0x000055555567d2eb in main (argc=<optimized out>, argv=<optimized out>)
    at main.c:1355
        connection = 0x555555dc0888
        error = 0x0
        nm_proxy = 0x555555db03a0
        userrc = <optimized out>
        mainwin = 0x555555df0150
        folderview = 0x555555f6de00
        icon = 0x555555dc8360
        crash_file_present = <optimized out>
        num_folder_class = 0
        asked_for_migration = 0
        start_done = 1
        plug_list = 0x0
        never_ran = 0
        mainwin_shown = 0
        start = {tv_sec = 1514150424, tv_usec = 404862}
        end = {tv_sec = 0, tv_usec = 23712}
        diff = <optimized out>
        timing_name = 0x5555558add15 "startup"
        __FUNCTION__ = "main"

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan  7 09:40:59 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2018 08:40:59 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] New: Failing IMAP account on startup
Message-ID: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3944

            Bug ID: 3944
           Summary: Failing IMAP account on startup
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.16.0
          Hardware: All
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders/IMAP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: niroday at yandex.ru

Created attachment 1833
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"claws-mail --debug" log

Hello. 
When i run the app either from terminal or from app launcher (dmenu, rofi) i
get this error:
"Claws Mail has detected a configured mailbox, but it is incomplete. It is
possibly due to a failing IMAP account. Use "Rebuild folder tree" on the
mailbox parent folder's context menu to try to fix it."
The error appears even after rebuilding folder tree. However it doesn't affect
on other functionality. Receiving mail with imap works fine.

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From liste at secarica.ro  Sun Jan  7 14:00:38 2018
From: liste at secarica.ro (Cristian =?UTF-8?Q?Secar=C4=83?=)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2018 15:00:38 +0200
Subject: [Users] to translate or to not translate ? ("OpenPGP digital
	signature")
Message-ID: <20180107150038.00004ac0@secarica.ro>

The following string is inserted after the Content-Description: ... when composing a signed message:

#: src/plugins/pgpmime/pgpmime.c:598
msgid "OpenPGP digital signature"

Is this ok to be translated ?

This string will show up also as tooltip over the yellow key icon on right side of a signed message.

Cristi

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan  7 14:13:24 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2018 13:13:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] to translate or to not translate ? ("OpenPGP digital
 signature")
In-Reply-To: <20180107150038.00004ac0@secarica.ro>
References: <20180107150038.00004ac0@secarica.ro>
Message-ID: <20180107131324.67c9d8e0@kujata>

On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 15:00:38 +0200
Cristian Secară <liste at secarica.ro> wrote: 

> The following string is inserted after the Content-Description: ...
> when composing a signed message:
> 
> #: src/plugins/pgpmime/pgpmime.c:598
> msgid "OpenPGP digital signature"
> 
> Is this ok to be translated ?

This is really a question for the translators' mailing list rather
than this one.

The answer is, yes, it is ok to be translated. A quick look at the
work of other translators shows that they have chosen to translate
this.

Although mistakes can be made, if the string is offered for
translation then it is ok for it is be translated.

with regards

Paul


From subscript at free.fr  Sun Jan  7 14:38:33 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2018 14:38:33 +0100
Subject: [Users] to translate or to not translate ? ("OpenPGP digital
 signature")
In-Reply-To: <20180107131324.67c9d8e0@kujata>
References: <20180107150038.00004ac0@secarica.ro>
 <20180107131324.67c9d8e0@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180107143833.57641d07@ladybug>

Hello,


On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 13:13:24 +0000 Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 15:00:38 +0200
> Cristian Secară <liste at secarica.ro> wrote: 
> 
> > The following string is inserted after the Content-Description: ...
> > when composing a signed message:
> > 
> > #: src/plugins/pgpmime/pgpmime.c:598
> > msgid "OpenPGP digital signature"
> > 
> > Is this ok to be translated ?  
> 
> This is really a question for the translators' mailing list rather
> than this one.
> 
> The answer is, yes, it is ok to be translated. A quick look at the
> work of other translators shows that they have chosen to translate
> this.
> 
> Although mistakes can be made, if the string is offered for
> translation then it is ok for it is be translated.

And of course, 'OpenPGP' itself, as other formal names, has not to be
translated, unless it's commonly done (I don't think it's the case for
that one).


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From liste at secarica.ro  Sun Jan  7 14:57:26 2018
From: liste at secarica.ro (Cristian =?UTF-8?Q?Secar=C4=83?=)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2018 15:57:26 +0200
Subject: [Users] to translate or to not translate ? ("OpenPGP digital
 signature")
In-Reply-To: <20180107131324.67c9d8e0@kujata>
References: <20180107150038.00004ac0@secarica.ro>
 <20180107131324.67c9d8e0@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180107155726.00005953@secarica.ro>

În data de Sun, 7 Jan 2018 13:13:24 +0000, Paul a scris:

> > #: src/plugins/pgpmime/pgpmime.c:598
> > msgid "OpenPGP digital signature"
> > 
> > Is this ok to be translated ?  
> 
> This is really a question for the translators' mailing list rather
> than this one.

Not quite (I think), as this is rather about the principle and not
about the translation itself. This string belongs to the "technical"
part of a message, that's why I have a dilemma.

> A quick look at the work of other translators shows that they have
> chosen to translate this.

I doubt they were aware where this string comes from. I only
accidentally found out after seeing the bug I have just filled and only
by looking at a source of a signed message.

Cristi

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan  7 14:50:18 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2018 13:50:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3945] New: UTF-8 not decoded for popup on pgpmime
Message-ID: <bug-3945-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3945

            Bug ID: 3945
           Summary: UTF-8 not decoded for popup on pgpmime
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 8
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: bugz at secarica.ro

Created attachment 1834
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snapshot of the popup window

The popup window that shows up over the yellow key icon on right side of a
signed message does not decode the UTF-8 part of the string (where applicable
on translated strings).

English string is "OpenPGP digital signature".

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan  7 15:01:03 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2018 14:01:03 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3945] UTF-8 not decoded for popup on pgpmime
In-Reply-To: <bug-3945-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3945-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3945-595-G0i65vfAUI@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3945

--- Comment #1 from Cristian Secară <bugz at secarica.ro> ---
The translated string in that popup window should be "Semnătură digitală
OpenPGP", as it is in the (Romanian) .po/.mo file.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan  7 15:12:05 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2018 14:12:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3943] 3.16.0 crashes with config from 3.15.1 and older
In-Reply-To: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3943-595-C9H7yolLBM@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3943

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
I replied to your mailing list post sometimed during the holiday break, but I
think the reply got eaten during the recent server problems. So, let's try
here:

What is the value of "config_version" in your clawsrc file?

What are the values of "protocol" and "config_version" (if any) in
accountrc for the GMX account in accountrc file?

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan  7 17:07:44 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2018 16:07:44 +0000
Subject: [Users] to translate or to not translate ? ("OpenPGP digital
 signature")
In-Reply-To: <20180107155726.00005953@secarica.ro>
References: <20180107150038.00004ac0@secarica.ro>
 <20180107131324.67c9d8e0@kujata>
 <20180107155726.00005953@secarica.ro>
Message-ID: <20180107160744.712bc59f@kujata>

On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 15:57:26 +0200
Cristian Secară <liste at secarica.ro> wrote: 

> Not quite (I think)

Well, yes, totally.

> > A quick look at the work of other translators shows that they have
> > chosen to translate this.  
> 
> I doubt they were aware where this string comes from.

What makes you different from any other translator? Anyway, the
translators' list is for all questions relating to translation.

with regards

Paul


From usenet at karmasailing.uk  Sun Jan  7 17:35:29 2018
From: usenet at karmasailing.uk (Bob Williams)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2018 16:35:29 +0000
Subject: [Users] Does Claws-Mail honour the Followup-To: header?
Message-ID: <20180107163529.3dbe7ec5@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>

I have just tried using the Followup-To: header in a mailing-list message, but when I replied to my own message, CM addressed the reply to the original mailing-list, not the one specified in the Followup-To: header.

If the option to set this header is available in the Compose window, shouldn't CM also recognise it in received messages that I am replying to? Or am I missing something? I am using Claws-Mail 3.16.0.

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From marekhwd at gmail.com  Sun Jan  7 19:11:17 2018
From: marekhwd at gmail.com (Marek Howard)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2018 19:11:17 +0100
Subject: [Users] External password store
Message-ID: <20180107181117.s5pnbmgumcp3m5qs@localhost>

Hello.

Would it be possible or acceptable to include reading passwords from command 
output so that external password stores like pass[1], Gnome Keyring, or custom 
stores password could be used?

pass is becoming increasingly popular. There's now even extension for Firefox[2] 
which queries pass locally. It's not about "security" but rather convenience of 
having the passwords stored in single place. Password commands are also 
supported by OfflineIMAP and isync (mbsync).

Claws-mail could just execute the password command once when opening the IMAP 
connection for the first time and then cache it. Is something like this 
possible?

Thank you.

[1] https://www.passwordstore.org/
[2] https://github.com/passff/passff


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan  7 19:59:14 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2018 18:59:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3943] 3.16.0 crashes with config from 3.15.1 and older
In-Reply-To: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3943-595-vOxYqtKCXg@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3943

--- Comment #2 from Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> ---
$ grep config_version ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc
config_version=2
$


The account you ask about is IMAP.

[Account: 20]
account_name=GMX
protocol=0
...


$ grep config_version ~/.claws-mail/accountrc
$

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From rob at hoelz.ro  Sun Jan  7 23:05:57 2018
From: rob at hoelz.ro (Rob Hoelz)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2018 16:05:57 -0600
Subject: [Users] [GTK3] What to do about GtkStock and GTK_STOCK_YES?
Message-ID: <20180107160557.3d689e95@eridanus>

Hi claws-mail devs,

When I was working on getting Claws Mail 3.16 to compile against GTK3, one of the most common errors I found was with code like this:

> "+" GTK_STOCK_YES

It appears that pre-GTK3, GTK_STOCK_YES and co. were simply string constants, so this would just prepend a plus character to that string,
which Claws Mail uses in alertpane_create to set up some custom behavior for the corresponding labels.

In GTK3, however, those constants are GtkStock* (just casted from string constants, but this still makes the compiler unhappy).  In my patch,
I just expanded GTK_STOCK_YES and co. to the underlying string constant where needed to get claws to compile.  Obviously this isn't really viable
going forward, so I was wondering how this change should be made instead.  Should we set up our own CM_STOCK_* constants?

-Rob


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan  7 21:51:38 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2018 20:51:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3919] manual filtering does not move spam
In-Reply-To: <bug-3919-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3919-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3919-595-Ntaapjxwww@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3919

--- Comment #7 from Shai Berger <shai at platonix.com> ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> Compiled and running.  It now moves the msg on manual filtering; will have
> to wait for spam to check auto filtering.
> 

I confirm this too, and also confirm on automatic spam filtering.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan  7 22:25:17 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2018 21:25:17 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3945] UTF-8 not decoded for popup on pgpmime
In-Reply-To: <bug-3945-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3945-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3945-595-qY1rCIhHh4@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3945

--- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Created attachment 1835
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my screenshot

Must be the way tooltips are handled by your window manager, because it looks
fine to me on KDE5, see attachment.

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From epodata at gmail.com  Mon Jan  8 10:48:35 2018
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 10:48:35 +0100
Subject: [Users] Two questions about templates.
Message-ID: <20180108104835.40f42925@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>

Mojn all,

1. Is there a hidden setting that allows inserting a template without
confirmation?

2. Is there a way to position the cursor after an inserted template (or
perhaps elsewhere in the message) rather than at the top of the message
body?

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From subscript at free.fr  Mon Jan  8 11:01:10 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 11:01:10 +0100
Subject: [Users] Two questions about templates.
In-Reply-To: <20180108104835.40f42925@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20180108104835.40f42925@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20180108110110.73fa51ce@ladybug>

Hello Erik,


On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 10:48:35 +0100 "Erik P. Olsen" <epodata at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mojn all,
> 
> 1. Is there a hidden setting that allows inserting a template without
> confirmation?

I'm afraid no.


> 2. Is there a way to position the cursor after an inserted template (or
> perhaps elsewhere in the message) rather than at the top of the message
> body?

See %cursor / %X, place %X at the end of your template body.


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From epodata at gmail.com  Mon Jan  8 11:38:25 2018
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 11:38:25 +0100
Subject: [Users] Two questions about templates.
In-Reply-To: <20180108110110.73fa51ce@ladybug>
References: <20180108104835.40f42925@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20180108110110.73fa51ce@ladybug>
Message-ID: <20180108113825.3c4612e0@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>

On 2018-01-08 at 11:01:10 wwp wrote:

> Hello Erik,
> 
> 
> On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 10:48:35 +0100 "Erik P. Olsen" <epodata at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Mojn all,
> > 
> > 1. Is there a hidden setting that allows inserting a template
> > without confirmation?  
> 
> I'm afraid no.
> 
> 
> > 2. Is there a way to position the cursor after an inserted template
> > (or perhaps elsewhere in the message) rather than at the top of the
> > message body?  
> 
> See %cursor / %X, place %X at the end of your template body.
 
Doesn't work this way with my templates. For example I have a template
that looks like:

|file{/home/erik/Templates/StandardDansk}

Adding %X at the end of this template does indeed place the cursor
differently but not at the end of the template text, it's inserted
somewhere in the middle of the last line.

Adding %X at the end of the text in the file does nothing.

Is it supposed to work with this sort of templates?

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From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net  Mon Jan  8 11:38:45 2018
From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter Richards)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 21:38:45 +1100
Subject: [Users] Tooltip - background colours
In-Reply-To: <20180106174225.7594983c@peter-Inspiron-3542>
References: <20180106174225.7594983c@peter-Inspiron-3542>
Message-ID: <20180108213845.3427b8af@peter-Inspiron-3542>

On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 17:42:25 +1100
Peter Richards <peter777 at users.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> I have looked at the colours in system settings, and the tooltip is
> set to white foreground and black background.
> 
> I'm just not sure where to start looking to fix this. If there are any
> other Kubuntu 16.04.3 users on this list, possibly they have been able
> to enable some sort of workaround ??

Looked under System settings - Colors - Options

Uncheck "Apply colors to non-Qt applications"

exited Claws, then restarted , and now the tooltips work fine.

Regards,

Peter



From ticho at claws-mail.org  Mon Jan  8 17:22:52 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 17:22:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] [GTK3] What to do about GtkStock and GTK_STOCK_YES?
In-Reply-To: <20180107160557.3d689e95@eridanus>
References: <20180107160557.3d689e95@eridanus>
Message-ID: <20180108172252.21e1bb4a@penny>

On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 16:05:57 -0600
Rob Hoelz <rob at hoelz.ro> wrote:

> Hi claws-mail devs,
> 
> When I was working on getting Claws Mail 3.16 to compile against GTK3, one of the most common errors I found was with code like this:
> 
> > "+" GTK_STOCK_YES  
> 
> It appears that pre-GTK3, GTK_STOCK_YES and co. were simply string constants, so this would just prepend a plus character to that string,
> which Claws Mail uses in alertpane_create to set up some custom behavior for the corresponding labels.
> 
> In GTK3, however, those constants are GtkStock* (just casted from string constants, but this still makes the compiler unhappy).  In my patch,
> I just expanded GTK_STOCK_YES and co. to the underlying string constant where needed to get claws to compile.  Obviously this isn't really viable
> going forward, so I was wondering how this change should be made instead.  Should we set up our own CM_STOCK_* constants?

I would opt for scrapping this whole "+" prefix thing in alertpanel.c,
and just change the alertpanel API to indicate which button should be
focused by default in a different way - perhaps a simple extra integer
parameter which could have values 1, 2, 3 or 0 (no button has focus).

It would also simplify the alertpanel_create() code somewhat, and less
string manipulation in C is always a good idea. :)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan  9 10:12:10 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2018 09:12:10 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3946] New: Deleting a message jumps focus on the
 previous rather than next message
Message-ID: <bug-3946-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3946

            Bug ID: 3946
           Summary: Deleting a message jumps focus on the previous rather
                    than next message
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.16.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message List
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: besnik at programeshqip.org

Hello,

Consider that you just received five new messages; you go to 3d message, read
it and hit Delete to delete it. You're expecting focus to go to 4th message.
Instead Claws Mail jumps it to 2nd one.

I did not experienced this in my previous installation. It was again under a
Debian (jessie), while this one is under Siduction. I'm assuming that this has
to do with Claws Mail.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan  9 10:33:26 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2018 09:33:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3946] Deleting a message jumps focus on the previous
 rather than next message
In-Reply-To: <bug-3946-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3946-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3946-595-tMOsmwTGIp@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3946

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
There is a hidden option, 'next_on_delete', which controls exactly what you are
talking about. You have that set to '0', change it to '1'.

This is documented in the manual and was detailed in the release notes.

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan  9 10:47:05 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 09:47:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] Does Claws-Mail honour the Followup-To: header?
In-Reply-To: <20180107163529.3dbe7ec5@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
References: <20180107163529.3dbe7ec5@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
Message-ID: <20180109094705.6ff47b71@kujata>

On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 16:35:29 +0000
Bob Williams <usenet at karmasailing.uk> wrote: 

> I have just tried using the Followup-To: header in a mailing-list
> message, but when I replied to my own message, CM addressed the
> reply to the original mailing-list, not the one specified in the
> Followup-To: header.

The Followup-To header is specifically a usenet header (for
newsgroups), and Claws Mail supports it when it is used in the
correct place.

with regards

Paul


From usenet at karmasailing.uk  Tue Jan  9 10:51:06 2018
From: usenet at karmasailing.uk (Bob Williams)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 09:51:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] Does Claws-Mail honour the Followup-To: header?
In-Reply-To: <20180109094705.6ff47b71@kujata>
References: <20180107163529.3dbe7ec5@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
 <20180109094705.6ff47b71@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180109095106.77ce68f5@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>

On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 09:47:05 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 16:35:29 +0000
> Bob Williams <usenet at karmasailing.uk> wrote: 
> 
> > I have just tried using the Followup-To: header in a mailing-list
> > message, but when I replied to my own message, CM addressed the
> > reply to the original mailing-list, not the one specified in the
> > Followup-To: header.  
> 
> The Followup-To header is specifically a usenet header (for
> newsgroups), and Claws Mail supports it when it is used in the
> correct place.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul

Thanks Paul. I'd missed the difference between email mailing lists and nntp usenet newsgroups.

Bob
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan  9 10:54:57 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 09:54:57 +0000
Subject: [Users] Two questions about templates.
In-Reply-To: <20180108113825.3c4612e0@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20180108104835.40f42925@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20180108110110.73fa51ce@ladybug>
 <20180108113825.3c4612e0@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20180109095457.5c8f4e8e@kujata>

On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 11:38:25 +0100
"Erik P. Olsen" <epodata at gmail.com> wrote: 

> Adding %X at the end of this template does indeed place the cursor
> differently but not at the end of the template text, it's inserted
> somewhere in the middle of the last line.

That works fine for me.

> Adding %X at the end of the text in the file does nothing.
> 
> Is it supposed to work with this sort of templates?

When you insert a file it is inserted as-is, template symbols do not
work when used in the file which you insert.

with regards

Paul


From epodata at gmail.com  Tue Jan  9 11:20:20 2018
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 11:20:20 +0100
Subject: [Users] Two questions about templates.
In-Reply-To: <20180109095457.5c8f4e8e@kujata>
References: <20180108104835.40f42925@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20180108110110.73fa51ce@ladybug>
 <20180108113825.3c4612e0@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20180109095457.5c8f4e8e@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180109112020.03635cdd@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>

On 2018-01-09 at 09:54:57 Paul wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 11:38:25 +0100
> "Erik P. Olsen" <epodata at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> > Adding %X at the end of this template does indeed place the cursor
> > differently but not at the end of the template text, it's inserted
> > somewhere in the middle of the last line.  
> 
> That works fine for me.

So I've hit a bug, I assume.

If I send the file to you off list could you test it to see if it
indeed is a bug?

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan  9 11:30:11 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 10:30:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] Two questions about templates.
In-Reply-To: <20180109112020.03635cdd@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20180108104835.40f42925@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20180108110110.73fa51ce@ladybug>
 <20180108113825.3c4612e0@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20180109095457.5c8f4e8e@kujata>
 <20180109112020.03635cdd@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20180109103011.56e07088@kujata>

On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 11:20:20 +0100
"Erik P. Olsen" <epodata at gmail.com> wrote: 

> If I send the file to you off list could you test it to see if it
> indeed is a bug?

Yes, please do.

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan  9 13:03:27 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2018 12:03:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3947] New: Build break with --disable-libsm
 --enable-crash-dialog
Message-ID: <bug-3947-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3947

            Bug ID: 3947
           Summary: Build break with --disable-libsm --enable-crash-dialog
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.16.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: zsolt.foldvari at protonmail.com

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=e4f6b0b3 breaks the build
by conditionally removing 'argv0' in main.c, while still referencing it in
crash.c.


$ ./configure --disable-libsm --enable-crash-dialog
<...>
claws-mail 3.16.0

Using Address Book : Original stable interface
JPilot             : no
LDAP               : yes
gnuTLS             : yes
iconv              : yes
compface           : no
IPv6               : yes
enchant            : yes
IMAP4              : yes
NNTP               : yes
Crash dialog       : yes
LibSM              : no
DBUS               : yes
NetworkManager     : no
Manual             : no
Generic UMPC code  : no
SVG support        : yes
Config dir         : .claws-mail
Password crypto    : gnutls
Plugins
<...>


$ make
make  all-recursive
<...>
libtool: link: gcc -g -O2 -Wno-unused-function -Wno-pointer-sign -Wall -pthread
-I/usr/include/enchant -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include
-Wl,--export-dynamic -o claws-mail account.o action.o addrcache.o addr_compl.o
addressadd.o addrgather.o addrharvest.o addritem.o advsearch.o alertpanel.o
autofaces.o avatars.o codeconv.o compose.o crash.o customheader.o
displayheader.o edittags.o enriched.o entity.o export.o file_checker.o
filtering.o folder.o folder_item_prefs.o foldersel.o folderutils.o folderview.o
grouplistdialog.o headerview.o html.o image_viewer.o imap.o imap_gtk.o import.o
inc.o localfolder.o main.o mainwindow.o manual.o matcher.o matcher_parser_lex.o
matcher_parser_parse.o mbox.o message_search.o messageview.o mh.o mh_gtk.o
mimeview.o msgcache.o news.o news_gtk.o noticeview.o partial_download.o
password.o password_gtk.o passwordstore.o pop.o prefs_account.o prefs_actions.o
prefs_common.o prefs_compose_writing.o prefs_customheader.o
prefs_display_header.o prefs_ext_prog.o prefs_filtering_action.o
prefs_filtering.o prefs_folder_item.o prefs_fonts.o prefs_gtk.o
prefs_image_viewer.o prefs_logging.o prefs_matcher.o prefs_message.o
prefs_migration.o prefs_msg_colors.o prefs_other.o prefs_quote.o
prefs_receive.o prefs_send.o prefs_spelling.o prefs_summaries.o
prefs_summary_column.o prefs_summary_open.o prefs_folder_column.o
prefs_template.o prefs_themes.o prefs_toolbar.o prefs_wrapping.o printing.o
privacy.o procheader.o procmime.o procmsg.o quote_fmt.o quote_fmt_lex.o
quote_fmt_parse.o recv.o remotefolder.o send_message.o setup.o sourcewindow.o
ssl_manager.o statusbar.o stock_pixmap.o summary_search.o summaryview.o
textview.o toolbar.o undo.o unmime.o uri_opener.o wizard.o addrbook.o
addrclip.o addrcustomattr.o addressbook.o addressbook_foldersel.o addrindex.o
addrquery.o addrselect.o addrduplicates.o browseldap.o editaddress.o
editaddress_other_attributes_ldap.o editbook.o editgroup.o editjpilot.o
editldap_basedn.o editldap.o editvcard.o exphtmldlg.o expldifdlg.o exporthtml.o
exportldif.o importldif.o importmutt.o importpine.o jpilot.o ldapctrl.o
ldaplocate.o ldapquery.o ldapserver.o ldapupdate.o ldaputil.o ldif.o mutt.o
pine.o vcard.o -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed -pthread -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed
-pthread  -L/usr/local/lib etpan/.libs/libclawsetpan.a -L/usr/lib64
gtk/.libs/libclawsgtk.a -lgmodule-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lcrypt -lenchant
-lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -latk-1.0 -lpangoft2-1.0
-lpango-1.0 -lfontconfig -lfreetype -lnsl -llber -lldap -lgnutls
-lstartup-notification-1 -ldbus-glib-1 -ldbus-1 -lrsvg-2 -lgio-2.0
-lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lcairo -lm -letpan -lssl -lcrypto
/usr/lib64/libdb-5.3.so -lpthread -lz -pthread
crash.o: In function `crash_handler':
/home/zsolt/software/claws-mail-3.16.0/src/crash.c:536: undefined reference to
`argv0'
/home/zsolt/software/claws-mail-3.16.0/src/crash.c:549: undefined reference to
`argv0'
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan  9 13:46:09 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2018 12:46:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3947] Build break with --disable-libsm
	--enable-crash-dialog
In-Reply-To: <bug-3947-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3947-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3947-595-SEAcNc5Nri@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3947

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2018-01-09 13:34:03.611171676 +0100
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=0f9946c3e11674724de3684d48152f87f5fe6465
Merge: 63c5db4 36103cc
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Tue Jan 9 13:34:02 2018 +0100

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=36103cc2bc933d623738ec8a3b82b246196e0f43
Author: Paul <paul at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Tue Jan 9 12:33:05 2018 +0000

    fix bug 3947, 'Build break with --disable-libsm --enable-crash-dialog'

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From rob at hoelz.ro  Tue Jan  9 14:49:06 2018
From: rob at hoelz.ro (Rob Hoelz)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 07:49:06 -0600
Subject: [Users] [GTK3] What to do about GtkStock and GTK_STOCK_YES?
In-Reply-To: <20180108172252.21e1bb4a@penny>
References: <20180107160557.3d689e95@eridanus> <20180108172252.21e1bb4a@penny>
Message-ID: <20180109074906.17824003@eridanus>

On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 17:22:52 +0100
Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 16:05:57 -0600
> Rob Hoelz <rob at hoelz.ro> wrote:
> 
> > Hi claws-mail devs,
> > 
> > When I was working on getting Claws Mail 3.16 to compile against
> > GTK3, one of the most common errors I found was with code like this:
> > 
> > > "+" GTK_STOCK_YES  
> > 
> > It appears that pre-GTK3, GTK_STOCK_YES and co. were simply string
> > constants, so this would just prepend a plus character to that
> > string, which Claws Mail uses in alertpane_create to set up some
> > custom behavior for the corresponding labels.
> > 
> > In GTK3, however, those constants are GtkStock* (just casted from
> > string constants, but this still makes the compiler unhappy).  In
> > my patch, I just expanded GTK_STOCK_YES and co. to the underlying
> > string constant where needed to get claws to compile.  Obviously
> > this isn't really viable going forward, so I was wondering how this
> > change should be made instead.  Should we set up our own CM_STOCK_*
> > constants?
> 
> I would opt for scrapping this whole "+" prefix thing in alertpanel.c,
> and just change the alertpanel API to indicate which button should be
> focused by default in a different way - perhaps a simple extra integer
> parameter which could have values 1, 2, 3 or 0 (no button has focus).
> 
> It would also simplify the alertpanel_create() code somewhat, and less
> string manipulation in C is always a good idea. :)

This would be my preferred way going forward as well - when I was working on
my patch, it's not entirely obvious what the prefixed plus character is doing.
Something more explicit as to what's going on would be helpful!

-Rob


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan  9 15:03:02 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 14:03:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] [GTK3] What to do about GtkStock and GTK_STOCK_YES?
In-Reply-To: <20180109074906.17824003@eridanus>
References: <20180107160557.3d689e95@eridanus> <20180108172252.21e1bb4a@penny>
 <20180109074906.17824003@eridanus>
Message-ID: <20180109140302.0fa0fc88@kujata>

On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 07:49:06 -0600
Rob Hoelz <rob at hoelz.ro> wrote: 

> it's not entirely obvious what the prefixed plus character is doing.
> Something more explicit as to what's going on would be helpful!

It denotes the default (selected) button.

with regards

Paul


From rob at hoelz.ro  Tue Jan  9 19:10:42 2018
From: rob at hoelz.ro (Rob Hoelz)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 12:10:42 -0600
Subject: [Users] [GTK3] What to do about GtkStock and GTK_STOCK_YES?
In-Reply-To: <20180109140302.0fa0fc88@kujata>
References: <20180107160557.3d689e95@eridanus> <20180108172252.21e1bb4a@penny>
 <20180109074906.17824003@eridanus> <20180109140302.0fa0fc88@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180109121042.003d97fb@eridanus>

On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 14:03:02 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 07:49:06 -0600
> Rob Hoelz <rob at hoelz.ro> wrote: 
> 
> > it's not entirely obvious what the prefixed plus character is doing.
> > Something more explicit as to what's going on would be helpful!
> 
> It denotes the default (selected) button.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

Thanks, Paul!  If we stuck with the concatenated strings, maybe we could create a #define
(like #define DEFAULT_BUTTON "+" or something) to make this clearer while reading the code?
Otherwise, I think some flags for each button (or a "default button" parameter) would be
a good move forward, in light of the GTK3 changes.  I'd be happy to undertake this work -
I just want to throw some ideas out there to make sure that the work has a higher change
of being merged before I work on it!

-Rob


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan  9 21:16:54 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2018 20:16:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3943] 3.16.0 crashes with config from 3.15.1 and older
In-Reply-To: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3943-595-D4pKb8yfxf@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3943

--- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Are you sure that same configuration dir works with 3.15.x? protocol=0 denotes
a POP3 account, so my guess is that you hit some corner case bug in code that
made CM think your accountrc needs modification.

If you still have the "working" copy of the .claws-mail dir on a box with
3.15.x installed, please look how the mentioned values look there. That will
help me with reproducing the bug you're hitting when trying that configuration
dir with 3.16.0.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan  9 22:49:28 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2018 21:49:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3943] 3.16.0 crashes with config from 3.15.1 and older
In-Reply-To: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3943-595-jscsvI7cmS@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3943

--- Comment #4 from Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> ---
> Are you sure that same configuration dir works with 3.15.x? 

Yes, I still use it daily. And it has been used with versions much older than
3.15.1 before.


> protocol=0 denotes a POP3 account,

Wow!

It's IMAP email accounts indeed, trust me. I access the remote folders via IMAP
protocol using Claws Mail 3.15.1. One of them is Google Mail with protocol=0,
too. I don't use the "Get Mail" feature for any of them.


But your detective work is good nevertheless. In 3.15.1, Folder View shows
"IMAP" for these accounts. Edit accounts dialogs show "POP".

Could it be that accessing the same user account with different versions of
Claws Mail has lead to an inconsistency? 3.15.1 and older could handle it
somehow. 3.16.0 cannot.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan  9 22:51:51 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2018 21:51:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3943] 3.16.0 crashes with config from 3.15.1 and older
In-Reply-To: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3943-595-r95Tsa1oUv@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3943

--- Comment #5 from Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> ---
Oh, the Fedora Project SMTP account set up in Claws Mail is shown as "News" in
folder view and "NNTP" in the account settings. That makes no sense either.

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From johnxj at gmx.com  Wed Jan 10 02:30:35 2018
From: johnxj at gmx.com (John Jason Jordan)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 17:30:35 -0800
Subject: [Users] IMAP4 with university Gmail account
Message-ID: <20180109173035.25be13f5@Devil-Bonobo>

I have Claws Mail version 3.11.1 on Xubuntu 14.04, and everything
has worked fine for years, but I need some help/advice using IMAP4 with
my university Gmail account.

The problem is that, for reasons that I have never grasped, Gmail
places all mail into a folder called All Mail, and never deletes it,
even when I delete it from the Inbox. If I delete mail from the All
Mail folder that I have retained in the Inbox (because maybe I will
need it some day) it automatically also gets deleted from the Inbox.
This strikes me as a kind of stupid way to run a mail system, but I
guess I'm stuck with it. Currently there are nearly 5,000 mails in the
All Mail folder, but I guess if Google doesn't mind keeping them, I
don't care either.

The problem is that when Claws Mail updates the account it hangs on the
All Mail folder because, of course, it has to scan all that mail. When
I update the mail for this account I really only want to update the
Inbox; I don't need it to check all the other folders. Is there a way
to tell Claws Mail to ignore other folders?


From ticho at claws-mail.org  Wed Jan 10 08:08:41 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 08:08:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] IMAP4 with university Gmail account
In-Reply-To: <20180109173035.25be13f5@Devil-Bonobo>
References: <20180109173035.25be13f5@Devil-Bonobo>
Message-ID: <20180110080841.0b6e07f3@penny>

On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 17:30:35 -0800
John Jason Jordan <johnxj at gmx.com> wrote:

> The problem is that when Claws Mail updates the account it hangs on the
> All Mail folder because, of course, it has to scan all that mail. When
> I update the mail for this account I really only want to update the
> Inbox; I don't need it to check all the other folders. Is there a way
> to tell Claws Mail to ignore other folders?

You could disable "Scan for new mail" option for the "All Mail" folder
and its subdirectories. Then Claws Mail would only update those folders
when you open them.

I guess you could also subscribe to all folders except "All Mail" and
subdirectories, and set the account to only show subscribed folders.
You would then have to subscribe to every new created folder in the
future to see it, though.

(I have no idea how Google's not-quite-IMAP works with folder
subscriptions.)

Regards,
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jan 10 01:00:28 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 00:00:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3943] 3.16.0 crashes with config from 3.15.1 and older
In-Reply-To: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3943-595-3Lo2R5B9KB@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3943

--- Comment #6 from Michael Rasmussen <mir at datanom.net> ---
(In reply to comment #5)
> Oh, the Fedora Project SMTP account set up in Claws Mail is shown as "News"
> in folder view and "NNTP" in the account settings. That makes no sense
> either.

You cannot share a claws-mail home between current and old config where old
config is before changing the password algorithm. I seem to remember this
specific situation where using a version of claws before changing password
algorithm resulted in a situation just like yours (All mail accounts where
'reset' to POP)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jan 10 01:03:29 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 00:03:29 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3943] 3.16.0 crashes with config from 3.15.1 and older
In-Reply-To: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #7 from Michael Rasmussen <mir at datanom.net> ---
My last post should have read: You cannot use a version of claws before
password algorithm change with a claws-home where the configuration file has
been converted to the new password algorithm format - behaviour is unknown.

Maybe some test should prevent this situation?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jan 10 09:31:41 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 08:31:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3943] 3.16.0 crashes with config from 3.15.1 and older
In-Reply-To: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3943-595-1VmAoBfmkd@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3943

--- Comment #8 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
It's a bit more complicated, unfortunately. Claws Mail will already complain on
startup if it finds a config file with config_version higher than it supports.
But this is a situation, where between 3.15.1 and 3.16.0, we are adding
config_version not only to clawsrc, but to each separate account.

Unless a working time machine is invented, 3.15.1 has no way of knowing that
3.16.0 would do this, and will ignore config_version in your accountrc file -
and discard it upon saving the file.

Still, I thought I had this situation handled, that's why I am asking for a
sample config directory that works on 3.15.1 (all accounts have correct
protocol after two or more restarts of 3.15.1), but breaks with 3.16.0 like in
original comment #0 here.

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From johnxj at gmx.com  Wed Jan 10 18:09:30 2018
From: johnxj at gmx.com (John Jason Jordan)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:09:30 -0800
Subject: [Users] IMAP4 with university Gmail account
In-Reply-To: <20180110080841.0b6e07f3@penny>
References: <20180109173035.25be13f5@Devil-Bonobo>
 <20180110080841.0b6e07f3@penny>
Message-ID: <20180110090930.4f299b31@Devil-Bonobo>

On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 08:08:41 +0100
Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org> dijo:

>On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 17:30:35 -0800
>John Jason Jordan <johnxj at gmx.com> wrote:
>
>> The problem is that when Claws Mail updates the account it hangs on
>> the All Mail folder because, of course, it has to scan all that
>> mail. When I update the mail for this account I really only want to
>> update the Inbox; I don't need it to check all the other folders. Is
>> there a way to tell Claws Mail to ignore other folders?
>
>You could disable "Scan for new mail" option for the "All Mail" folder
>and its subdirectories. Then Claws Mail would only update those folders
>when you open them.

That did it! I looked all over for an option like that but couldn't
find it. Having told me I could do it I looked again, and finally found
out how - right click on the folder, select properties, untick the 'Scan
for new mail' box.

>(I have no idea how Google's not-quite-IMAP works with folder
>subscriptions.)

I think I'm too old to ever understand most of Gmail. :(


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jan 10 20:56:26 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 19:56:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3943] 3.16.0 crashes with config from 3.15.1 and older
In-Reply-To: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3943-595-0ii5MEJTPS@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3943

--- Comment #9 from Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> ---
Re: comment 6

And still 3.15.1 worked fine with exactly the same ~/.claws-mail contents and
continue to work. 3.15.1 doesn't crash because of the wrong protocol= versions.


Re: comment 8

The account that crashes with 3.16.0 has __not__ used before with 3.16.0,
because that version crashed early as reported. It's a ~/.claws-mail that has
been used with 3.15.1 and still works with 3.15.1 despite the messed up
protocol= values in the accountrc file.

As when the accountrc file got changed, no idea. It's not as if I change Claws
Mail versions frequently. But perhaps a long time ago I've run a newer version
and have returned to an older release due to problems. It's a user mistake to
do that, if Claws Mail can break, but 3.16.0 is the first version to crash
while 3.15.1 has not complained.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jan 10 23:56:32 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 22:56:32 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3943] 3.16.0 crashes with config from 3.15.1 and older
In-Reply-To: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3943

--- Comment #10 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Can you show the complete --debug output from the startup attempt with 3.16.0?
Either send to my email privately, or attach it here as a text file. Thanks.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 11 00:46:16 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 23:46:16 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3943] 3.16.0 crashes with config from 3.15.1 and older
In-Reply-To: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3943-595-slKb4a8Ibz@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3943

--- Comment #11 from Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> ---
Created attachment 1836
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1836&action=edit
claws-mail --debug output with #mh/Mailbox messages removed

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 11 12:30:30 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:30:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3943] 3.16.0 crashes with config from 3.15.1 and older
In-Reply-To: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3943-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #12 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Ok, this is what happened:

Your IMAP account has already been saved in accountrc with protocol=0 (POP3)
for a while. Possibly after initial protocols renumbering in 3.14.1 release -
there were some bugs which caused it not to work correctly in some cases.

In your case, the renumbering seems to have run at least once more, as IMAP
went from protocol=3 to protocol=1 (down by 2), while you have protocol=0.

Before 3.16.0 release, the code that returns local path to an IMAP folder was
written as specific for IMAP, so it did not check whether protocol of the
account connected with each folder. Therefore it always returned correct path
regardless of incorrect protocol= value. 

In 3.16.0, this code was changed to use a function shared for all folder
classes (IMAP, MH, mbox, RSSyl, ...), and this function does first check for
protocol, in order to decide what to do. And since it did not see an IMAP
account connected to the folders, it returns an empty value, which eventually
results in the crash you experience.

The fix in your case is to manually correct the protocol= values in accountrc:
0 for a POP3 account, 1 for IMAP, 2 for NNTP, 3 for Local, 4 for SMTP-only.

After that, 3.16.0 should start correctly, and you should also be able to
freely switch between 3.16.0 and 3.15.1 with the same config dir.

The original bug, which caused the wrong renumbering has already been fixed, I
believe.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 14 14:26:18 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 13:26:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3941] Connecting to IMAP server: SSL/TLS handshake
	failed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3941-595-cRrx6htSke@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3941

Tristan Miller <psychonaut at nothingisreal.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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--- Comment #9 from Tristan Miller <psychonaut at nothingisreal.com> ---
Problem is reproducible for me with openSUSE Tumbleweed using the default
repositories.  I think we've established that this a downstream problem with
the openSUSE packages.  Is there a downstream bug report?  If so, please let me
know the URL.  Otherwise, I will report it myself.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 14 22:55:27 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 21:55:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3948] New: Spellchecker causes crash when German
 umlauts are used (=?UTF-8?Q?=C3=B6?=, =?UTF-8?Q?=20=C3=A4?=,
 =?UTF-8?Q?=20=C3=BC?=, ...)
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3948

            Bug ID: 3948
           Summary: Spellchecker causes crash when German umlauts are used
                    (ö, ä, ü, ...)
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.16.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Compose Window/Spell Checker
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: andy641 at gmx.at

The spellchecker causes a crash when German umlauts (ö, ä, ü, ...) are typed
into the compose dialog. GDB prints the following error message:

Thread 1 "claws-mail" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x00007fffe459d976 in hspell_check_word () from /usr/lib/libhspell.so.0

If I disable spellchecking in the settings dialog, everything works fine. I am
using Arch Linux.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 14 23:17:53 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 22:17:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3948] Spellchecker causes crash when German umlauts
 are used (=?UTF-8?Q?=C3=B6?=, =?UTF-8?Q?=20=C3=A4?=, =?UTF-8?Q?=20=C3=BC?=,
 ...)
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--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
What version of enchant?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 15 07:12:26 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 06:12:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3948] Spellchecker causes crash when German umlauts
 are used (=?UTF-8?Q?=C3=B6?=, =?UTF-8?Q?=20=C3=A4?=, =?UTF-8?Q?=20=C3=BC?=,
 ...)
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3948

--- Comment #2 from Andreas Rohner <andy641 at gmx.at> ---
Here is the enchant version:

$ enchant -v
@(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 (but really Enchant 2.1.2)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 15 08:08:47 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 07:08:47 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3949] New: opening account preferences window crashes
 when compiled with ./configure --disable-dbus
Message-ID: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3949

            Bug ID: 3949
           Summary: opening account preferences window crashes when
                    compiled with ./configure --disable-dbus
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: other
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Actions
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: claws-mail at mvath.de

When attempting to open any account references window
(no matter whether through "Configuration" -> "Preferences for current account"
or by pressing "Edit" in the "Edit accounts" window)
there occur the message (output with claw-mail --debug):

prefs_account.c:3793:Opening account preferences window...
prefs_account.c:3795:called inc_lock (lock count 1)
passwordstore.c:180:Getting password 'recv_cert' from block (1/1)
passwordstore.c:185:Block (1/1) not found.
passwordstore.c:180:Getting password 'send_cert' from block (1/1)
passwordstore.c:185:Block (1/1) not found.
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary de de
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary de_AT de_AT
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary en_US en_US
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary en en
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary en_CA en_CA
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary en_GB en_GB
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary de_DE de_DE
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary de_CH de_CH
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary en_AU en_AU

(claws-mail:32739): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot register existing type
'DBusGProxy'

(claws-mail:32739): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_type_set_qdata: assertion 'node
!= NULL' failed

(claws-mail:32739): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_boxed_type_register_static:
assertion 'g_type_from_name (name) == 0' failed

(claws-mail:32739): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_type_set_qdata: assertion 'node
!= NULL' failed

(claws-mail:32739): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_boxed_type_register_static:
assertion 'g_type_from_name (name) == 0' failed

(claws-mail:32739): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_type_set_qdata: assertion 'node
!= NULL' failed
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary de de
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary de_AT de_AT
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary en_US en_US
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary en en
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary en_CA en_CA
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary en_GB en_GB
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary de_DE de_DE
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary de_CH de_CH
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary en_AU en_AU
passwordstore.c:180:Getting password 'send' from block (1/1)
passwordstore.c:185:Block (1/1) not found.
passwordstore.c:180:Getting password 'recv' from block (1/1)
passwordstore.c:185:Block (1/1) not found.
prefswindow.c:671:0.000000

and then the application segfaults, according to gdb somewhere in glib.

The problem occurs *if and only if* ./configure --disable-dbus is used.
Moreover, the problem did not occur a while ago (when older versions of many
libraries like glib and gtk+ etc. had been used: I am a gentoo user, so I have
regular library and compiler upgrades).

Currently, the problem is reproducible with claws-mail versions 3.16.0 and
3.15.1 (I didn't try older ones) and the following library versions:
gtk-2.24.31-r1
glib-2.50.3-r1
glibc-2.25-r9
(I can add further if requested.)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 15 10:20:32 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 09:20:32 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3949] opening account preferences window crashes when
 compiled with ./configure --disable-dbus
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3949

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Can you attach the full backtrace? Even though the crash happens within GLib,
it would be interesting to see where the trace leaves Claws Mail code.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 15 10:29:22 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 09:29:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3949] opening account preferences window crashes when
 compiled with ./configure --disable-dbus
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3949

--- Comment #2 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
I cannot reproduce that with newer versions of those libraries which you
listed. Which suggests to me that it is not our bug.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 15 12:41:19 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 11:41:19 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3949] opening account preferences window crashes when
 compiled with ./configure --disable-dbus
In-Reply-To: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3949

--- Comment #3 from Martin Väth <claws-mail at mvath.de> ---
(In reply to comment #2)
> I cannot reproduce that with newer versions of those libraries which you
> listed.

I had also tried after an experimental upgrade to glib-2.52.3 but still had the
same problem.

> Which suggests to me that it is not our bug.

What looks suspicious to me for --disable-dbus is the warning:

(claws-mail:32739): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot register existing type
'DBusGProxy

This lets me conjecture that perhaps some #ifdef for dbus-related stuff is
missing somewhere in the code.

(In reply to comment #1)
> Can you attach the full backtrace?

Despite compiling with C{,XX}FLAGS=''-O0 -g -ggdb3 -no-pie -fno-PIE'
I did not get a sane backtrace.
(I have several protection mechanisms like gcc-7.2.0 w/ pie+ssp and ASLR in the
kernel which might be the culprit for this...)

#0  0x00007ffff7153d64 in g_main_context_prepare () from
/usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#1  0x00007fff00000000 in ?? ()
#2  0x00000000008ee240 in ?? ()
#3  0x00007fffffff8dd4 in ?? ()
#4  0x00007fffffff8d74 in ?? ()
#5  0xffffffff00000018 in ?? ()
#6  0x177c939869fa1300 in ?? ()
#7  0x000000000090f6a0 in ?? ()
#8  0x000000000090f6a0 in ?? ()
#9  0x000000000090f6a0 in ?? ()
#10 0x0000000000d626a0 in ?? ()
#11 0x0000000000000001 in ?? ()
#12 0x0000000000000005 in ?? ()
#13 0x0000000000cf1550 in ?? ()
#14 0x00007ffff715488e in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#15 0x0000000000e95e00 in ?? ()
#16 0x0000000100000027 in ?? ()
#17 0x00007fffffff8f10 in ?? ()
#18 0x177c939869fa1300 in ?? ()
#19 0x000000000090f6a0 in ?? ()
#20 0x0000000000e95e00 in ?? ()
#21 0x000000000090f6a0 in ?? ()
#22 0x0000000000e95e0c in ?? ()
#23 0x0000000000cf1550 in ?? ()
#24 0x00007fffffffa120 in ?? ()
#25 0x00007ffff71ebc00 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#26 0x00007ffff7155f12 in g_main_loop_run () from /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#27 0x0000000000e95e00 in ?? ()
#28 0x0000000000b987d0 in ?? ()
#29 0x00007fffffff8f10 in ?? ()
#30 0x0000000000b987d0 in ?? ()
#31 0x00007fffffff8f10 in ?? ()
#32 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 15 13:01:21 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 12:01:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3949] opening account preferences window crashes when
 compiled with ./configure --disable-dbus
In-Reply-To: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3949-595-gWGE0P159w@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3949

--- Comment #4 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
DBusGProxy is from building with network-manager support.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 15 13:03:11 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 12:03:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3949] opening account preferences window crashes when
 compiled with ./configure --disable-dbus
In-Reply-To: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3949-595-9KqHU7DRze@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3949

--- Comment #5 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Try this and see if it still crashes:
Quit claws-mail.
open ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc
set use_networkmanager=0

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 15 13:16:03 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 12:16:03 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3949] opening account preferences window crashes when
 compiled with ./configure --disable-dbus
In-Reply-To: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3949-595-XaWen4i9kH@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3949

--- Comment #6 from Martin Väth <claws-mail at mvath.de> ---
(In reply to comment #4)
> DBusGProxy is from building with network-manager support.

I don't have networkmanager installed.
The warning occurs also if I build with --disable-networkmanager

(In reply to comment #5)
> Try this and see if it still crashes:
> Quit claws-mail.
> open ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc
> set use_networkmanager=0

Unfortunately, the crash is still there.
But also the warning is still there.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 15 14:39:35 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 13:39:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3949] opening account preferences window crashes when
 compiled with ./configure --disable-dbus
In-Reply-To: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3949-595-KnOhadZyKt@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3949

--- Comment #7 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
As for the backtrace, it would probably be more useful if you installed the
package with debug symbols (claws-mail-debug or claws-mail-dbg in most
distributions).

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 15 18:34:38 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 17:34:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3949] opening account preferences window crashes when
 compiled with ./configure --disable-dbus
In-Reply-To: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3949-595-SjRsI6nY8C@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3949

--- Comment #8 from Martin Väth <claws-mail at mvath.de> ---
(In reply to comment #7)
> if you installed the package with debug symbols

As mentioned, I have compiled with C{,XX}FLAGS="-g -ggdb3 -O0", so debug
symbols are there. The problem with the backtrace is probably some pie/ASLR
mangling which interferes with gdb. Maybe late this evening I have some time to
investigate this issue, but I cannot promise in the moment.

> claws-mail-debug or claws-mail-dbg in most distributions

I am using gentoo, not a binary distribution. (I also doubt that there is any
binary distribution which ships claws-mail without dbus support which is a
necessary condition to produce the problem...)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 15 18:39:31 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 17:39:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3949] opening account preferences window crashes when
 compiled with ./configure --disable-dbus
In-Reply-To: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3949-595-kbVktPG5W5@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3949

--- Comment #9 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
I tried it with --disable-dbus and could not reproduce it, so it's not simply
that. Anyway the point was that your backtrace was made with stripped binaries
and no debug info, so however you do that, a more meaningful backtrace is
needed.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 15 19:14:23 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 18:14:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3949] opening account preferences window crashes when
 compiled with ./configure --disable-dbus
In-Reply-To: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3949-595-1W6mprBPIk@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3949

--- Comment #10 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
As far as I know, neither ASLR nor PIC/PIE is a problem when working with gdb.
My guess is that you do not have the splitdebug feature enabled in your
make.conf. see https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Debugging#Don.27t_strip_symbols for
more details.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 15 19:39:21 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 18:39:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3949] opening account preferences window crashes when
 compiled with ./configure --disable-dbus
In-Reply-To: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3949-595-2BCr4RjhEq@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3949

--- Comment #11 from Martin Väth <claws-mail at mvath.de> ---
(In reply to comment #10)
> As far as I know, neither ASLR nor PIC/PIE is a problem when working with
> gdb.

This used to be different some years ago until gdb was fixed. I was
conjecturing that this fix was perhaps not up-to-date for the new gcc -fPIE
implementation. But it seems now that it works indeed fine (see below).

> My guess is that you do not have the splitdebug feature enabled

I have called ./configure ... && make (no make install) manually as a user and
have run it directly from the src-directory. In fact, the symbols are there and
debugging works perfectly: After adding an artificial assignment to *NULL for
testing purposes, I got a completely sane backtrace with function and variable
names. But after the above crash, I still get only the meaningless junk...
Of course, glib & friends are not compiled with debugging symbols, but this
does not explain why there does not appear at least one function from
claws-mail. Maybe this crash occurs in some auxiliary thread, only, which
exists only within glib?

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From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Tue Jan 16 01:08:11 2018
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 17:08:11 -0700
Subject: [Users] Tags in Quick Search: Bug??
Message-ID: <20180115155529.068e775f@jhegaala.localdomain>

Claws-mail 3.14.1 (pi) on Debian 8.x.

I have just started using tags. I have two set on messages in a gmail
account. I see them in the messages.

If I go to the quick search, and select "Tag" in the pulldown menu, and
enter a tag, I get no search results. If I select
"From/To/Cc/Subject/Tag", I get the correct result.

Am I doing something wrong, or misunderstanding something, or have I hit
a bug?


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From lenard.lynch at gmail.com  Tue Jan 16 02:21:04 2018
From: lenard.lynch at gmail.com (Lenard Lynch)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 19:21:04 -0600
Subject: [Users] Windows version guidance - stuck message can't be sent
Message-ID: <CAFpV=KTb239YVCJUHLPTGcKSrsSord9qGnVXURh+G0nfV99KRw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for Claws-Mail!

I use it as a nntp reader.  I recently have a issue and am looking for
guidance on how to clear this condition properly.

Issue:  replying to an nntp post, with an small file attachment, failed
produced message:  Queued messages  Some unsent messages are queued.  Exit
now?  Cancel OK

I looked for about to see if I could find this message, close claws-mail,
delete it, and restart claws-mail to verify that the condition is cleared.

I was able to see in the
C:\Users\<user's-account>\AppData\Roaming\Claws-mail\tmp
directory that the failed message is written there, when attempting to
close claws-mail.

The filename is:  nntp0B2873E8

I'm not finding any file that looks like this, or another file that has the
contents of this file, so I must be doing something really wrong, like
looking in all the wrong places...

Any assistance with his would be most appreciated.  If there is some docs
that I should be looking at, I'll gladly go there.



-LenLynch
+1 312.656.4264
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From subscript at free.fr  Tue Jan 16 09:34:20 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 09:34:20 +0100
Subject: [Users] Tags in Quick Search: Bug??
In-Reply-To: <20180115155529.068e775f@jhegaala.localdomain>
References: <20180115155529.068e775f@jhegaala.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20180116093420.4d6a034f@ladybug>

Hello Charles,


On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 17:08:11 -0700 Charles Curley <charlescurley at charlescurley.com> wrote:

> Claws-mail 3.14.1 (pi) on Debian 8.x.
> 
> I have just started using tags. I have two set on messages in a gmail
> account. I see them in the messages.
> 
> If I go to the quick search, and select "Tag" in the pulldown menu, and
> enter a tag, I get no search results. If I select
> "From/To/Cc/Subject/Tag", I get the correct result.
> 
> Am I doing something wrong, or misunderstanding something, or have I hit
> a bug?

Tags here, are not meant to be gmail tags, but tags that you can
add/remove to emails, from within Claws Mail and they are limited to
Claws Mail itself. Right-click an email in a folder and see the "Tags"
submenu of the context menu; or from main menu: Message/Tags.
You can manage the tags list (that you can apply to emails) from main
menu: Configuration/Tags.


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From usenet at karmasailing.uk  Tue Jan 16 10:11:22 2018
From: usenet at karmasailing.uk (Bob Williams)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 09:11:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] Tags in Quick Search: Bug??
In-Reply-To: <20180116093420.4d6a034f@ladybug>
References: <20180115155529.068e775f@jhegaala.localdomain>
 <20180116093420.4d6a034f@ladybug>
Message-ID: <20180116091122.540d4f43@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>

On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 09:34:20 +0100
wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:

> Hello Charles,
> 
> 
> On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 17:08:11 -0700 Charles Curley
> <charlescurley at charlescurley.com> wrote:
> 
> > Claws-mail 3.14.1 (pi) on Debian 8.x.
> > 
> > I have just started using tags. I have two set on messages in a
> > gmail account. I see them in the messages.
> > 
> > If I go to the quick search, and select "Tag" in the pulldown menu,
> > and enter a tag, I get no search results. If I select
> > "From/To/Cc/Subject/Tag", I get the correct result.
> > 
> > Am I doing something wrong, or misunderstanding something, or have
> > I hit a bug?  
> 
> Tags here, are not meant to be gmail tags, but tags that you can
> add/remove to emails, from within Claws Mail and they are limited to
> Claws Mail itself. Right-click an email in a folder and see the "Tags"
> submenu of the context menu; or from main menu: Message/Tags.
> You can manage the tags list (that you can apply to emails) from main
> menu: Configuration/Tags.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 

Make sure your tags have no spaces in the tag name.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 16 05:57:49 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 04:57:49 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3949] opening account preferences window crashes when
 compiled with ./configure --disable-dbus
In-Reply-To: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3949-595-9GR76YHTM2@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3949

--- Comment #12 from Martin Väth <claws-mail at mvath.de> ---
As a last attempt, I installed glib with debugging symbols.
And indeed, all symbols from the backtrace are _only_ from glib:

#0  0x00007ffff706c916 in g_main_context_prepare (context=0x828f50,
priority=0x7fffffff8840) at ../../glib-2.50.3/glib/gmain.c:3494
#1  0x00007ffff706d200 in g_main_context_iterate (context=0x828f50, block=1,
dispatch=1, self=0xbcb0c0) at ../../glib-2.50.3/glib/gmain.c:3909
#2  0x00007ffff706d6fa in g_main_loop_run (loop=0x9bb710) at
../../glib-2.50.3/glib/gmain.c:4125
#3  0x00007ffff7886fa7 in gtk_main () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#4  0x00000000004fb6fc in prefs_account_open (ac_prefs=ac_prefs at entry=0xb44270,
dirty=dirty at entry=0x7fffffff897c) at prefs_account.c:3915
#5  0x000000000044e43d in account_open (ac_prefs=0xb44270) at account.c:472
#6  0x00007ffff71579b6 in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID (closure=0x852f10,
return_value=0x0, n_param_values=1, param_values=0x7fffffff9be0,
invocation_hint=0x7fffffff9b20, marshal_data=0x0)
    at ../../glib-2.50.3/gobject/gmarshal.c:875
#7  0x00007ffff7154968 in g_closure_invoke (closure=0x852f10, return_value=0x0,
n_param_values=1, param_values=0x7fffffff9be0, invocation_hint=0x7fffffff9b20)
at ../../glib-2.50.3/gobject/gclosure.c:804
#8  0x00007ffff7170fbc in signal_emit_unlocked_R (node=0x87aea0, detail=0,
instance=0x899710, emission_return=0x0, instance_and_params=0x7fffffff9be0) at
../../glib-2.50.3/gobject/gsignal.c:3635
#9  0x00007ffff71702c9 in g_signal_emit_valist (instance=0x899710,
signal_id=136, detail=0, var_args=0x7fffffff9e98) at
../../glib-2.50.3/gobject/gsignal.c:3391
#10 0x00007ffff717084c in g_signal_emit (instance=0x899710, signal_id=136,
detail=0) at ../../glib-2.50.3/gobject/gsignal.c:3447
#11 0x00007ffff77c35af in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#12 0x00007ffff71579b6 in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID (closure=0x8e5f60,
return_value=0x0, n_param_values=1, param_values=0x7fffffffa220,
invocation_hint=0x7fffffffa160, marshal_data=0x7ffff78984e0)
    at ../../glib-2.50.3/gobject/gmarshal.c:875
#13 0x00007ffff7154fbc in g_type_class_meta_marshal (closure=0x8e5f60,
return_value=0x0, n_param_values=1, param_values=0x7fffffffa220,
invocation_hint=0x7fffffffa160, marshal_data=0x378)
    at ../../glib-2.50.3/gobject/gclosure.c:997
#14 0x00007ffff7154968 in g_closure_invoke (closure=0x8e5f60, return_value=0x0,
n_param_values=1, param_values=0x7fffffffa220, invocation_hint=0x7fffffffa160)
at ../../glib-2.50.3/gobject/gclosure.c:804
#15 0x00007ffff7170cd2 in signal_emit_unlocked_R (node=0x8e5fc0, detail=0,
instance=0x993910, emission_return=0x0, instance_and_params=0x7fffffffa220) at
../../glib-2.50.3/gobject/gsignal.c:3565
#16 0x00007ffff71702c9 in g_signal_emit_valist (instance=0x993910,
signal_id=151, detail=0, var_args=0x7fffffffa4d8) at
../../glib-2.50.3/gobject/gsignal.c:3391
#17 0x00007ffff717084c in g_signal_emit (instance=0x993910, signal_id=151,
detail=0) at ../../glib-2.50.3/gobject/gsignal.c:3447
#18 0x00007ffff79a8475 in gtk_widget_activate () from
/usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#19 0x00007ffff789c6ad in gtk_menu_shell_activate_item () from
/usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#20 0x00007ffff789c9f2 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#21 0x00007ffff788971e in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#22 0x00007ffff7154fbc in g_type_class_meta_marshal (closure=0x80d3a0,
return_value=0x7fffffffa7f0, n_param_values=2, param_values=0x7fffffffa8e0,
invocation_hint=0x7fffffffa820, marshal_data=0x160)
    at ../../glib-2.50.3/gobject/gclosure.c:997
#23 0x00007ffff7154968 in g_closure_invoke (closure=0x80d3a0,
return_value=0x7fffffffa7f0, n_param_values=2, param_values=0x7fffffffa8e0,
invocation_hint=0x7fffffffa820)
    at ../../glib-2.50.3/gobject/gclosure.c:804
#24 0x00007ffff717113e in signal_emit_unlocked_R (node=0x80d3f0, detail=0,
instance=0x984ad0, emission_return=0x7fffffffa9c0,
instance_and_params=0x7fffffffa8e0) at ../../glib-2.50.3/gobject/gsignal.c:3673
#25 0x00007ffff717035f in g_signal_emit_valist (instance=0x984ad0,
signal_id=42, detail=0, var_args=0x7fffffffaba8) at
../../glib-2.50.3/gobject/gsignal.c:3401
#26 0x00007ffff717084c in g_signal_emit (instance=0x984ad0, signal_id=42,
detail=0) at ../../glib-2.50.3/gobject/gsignal.c:3447
#27 0x00007ffff79a988c in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#28 0x00007ffff7887cfc in gtk_propagate_event () from
/usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#29 0x00007ffff788811b in gtk_main_do_event () from
/usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#30 0x00007ffff7f5ac0f in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
#31 0x00007ffff706c26b in g_main_dispatch (context=0x828f50) at
../../glib-2.50.3/glib/gmain.c:3203
#32 0x00007ffff706d0f0 in g_main_context_dispatch (context=0x828f50) at
../../glib-2.50.3/glib/gmain.c:3856
#33 0x00007ffff706d2d4 in g_main_context_iterate (context=0x828f50, block=1,
dispatch=1, self=0xbcb0c0) at ../../glib-2.50.3/glib/gmain.c:3929
#34 0x00007ffff706d6fa in g_main_loop_run (loop=0x92ac50) at
../../glib-2.50.3/glib/gmain.c:4125
#35 0x00007ffff7886fa7 in gtk_main () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#36 0x0000000000449ff1 in main (argc=<optimized out>, argv=<optimized out>) at
main.c:1614

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 16 06:43:24 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 05:43:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3949] opening account preferences window crashes when
 compiled with ./configure --disable-dbus
In-Reply-To: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3949-595-ooonKgkE0e@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3949

--- Comment #13 from Martin Väth <claws-mail at mvath.de> ---
By systematic inserting of fprintf(stderr, ...) I finally binsected the problem
(claws-mail-3.16.0):

1. The crash finally occurs in the call of gtk_main() in prefs_account.c

2. The warning/error messages (which do not occur with --enable-dbus) are
printed in the 5th iteration of the loop prefswindow_build_all_pages(). More
precisely, they are printed then in prefswindow_build_page() in the call
page->create_widget(page, GTK_WINDOW(prefswindow->window), prefswindow->data);

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 16 15:19:38 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 14:19:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3949] opening account preferences window crashes when
 compiled with ./configure --disable-dbus
In-Reply-To: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3949-595-jMprSNnqcN@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3949

--- Comment #14 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
You can print out page->path[1] (a gchar*) to uniquely identify which page is
being dealt with at the moment. If you run claws-mail with --debug flag, you
can also use debug_print(), which is basically fprintf(stderr, ...) with some
trimmings. :)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 16 15:26:22 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 14:26:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3949] opening account preferences window crashes when
 compiled with ./configure --disable-dbus
In-Reply-To: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3949-595-WQammbkO4Z@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3949

--- Comment #15 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
I forgot to add that you can then go inside the create_widget function of that
particular page (in prefs_account.c), and continue adding your debug output to
further isolate where the crash happens.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 16 17:04:50 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:04:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3949] opening account preferences window crashes when
 compiled with ./configure --disable-dbus
In-Reply-To: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3949-595-hob7uU8Yvu@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3949

--- Comment #16 from Martin Väth <claws-mail at mvath.de> ---
I found now the offending library call:

enchant_broker_list_dicts(broker, list_dict_cb, &list);

(in the file src/gtk/gtkaspell.c in function gtkaspell_get_dictionary_list).

When I comment it out, there are no warnings/errors and no crash.

Note that the above call happens twice when opening the account preferences
window: In the first call there is no warning/error printed, but in the second
call it is. Maybe for some reason the enchant_broker_list_dicts() function must
be called only once?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 16 17:27:24 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:27:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3949] opening account preferences window crashes when
 compiled with ./configure --disable-dbus
In-Reply-To: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3949-595-qkyzP47Tec@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3949

--- Comment #17 from Martin Väth <claws-mail at mvath.de> ---
To be more precise:

The warnings/errors are printed (in the second call) *before*
the callback function list_dict_cb() is executed.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 16 17:41:34 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:41:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3949] opening account preferences window crashes when
 compiled with ./configure --disable-dbus
In-Reply-To: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3949-595-LwKnm04Ono@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3949

--- Comment #18 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
what version of enchant are you using?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 16 19:12:28 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 18:12:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3949] opening account preferences window crashes when
 compiled with ./configure --disable-dbus
In-Reply-To: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3949-595-36lblBdFp0@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3949

--- Comment #19 from Martin Väth <claws-mail at mvath.de> ---
1.6.1
(Versions 2.1.0 and 2.1.1 are masked in gentoo due to incompatible API
changes).

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 16 19:29:48 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 18:29:48 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3949] opening account preferences window crashes when
 compiled with ./configure --disable-dbus
In-Reply-To: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3949-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3949-595-R7teuekgEk@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3949

Martin Väth <claws-mail at mvath.de> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #20 from Martin Väth <claws-mail at mvath.de> ---
It seems to be a pure enchant-1.6.1 bug: No problems with enchant-2.1.1
(with claws-mail-3.16.0; claws-mail-3.15.1 did not compile with enchant-2.1.1).

Sorry for the noise.

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From enitka1 at comcast.net  Wed Jan 17 03:51:02 2018
From: enitka1 at comcast.net (Ernest Nitka)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 19:51:02 -0700
Subject: [Users] Newbie ?
Message-ID: <672185D6-7EE0-4636-BF37-631320945EBC@comcast.net>

Raspberry Pi 3 . When I launch claws the welcome screen comes up and nothing happens.  Help?

Ernie nitka

From subscript at free.fr  Wed Jan 17 08:56:22 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 08:56:22 +0100
Subject: [Users] Newbie ?
In-Reply-To: <672185D6-7EE0-4636-BF37-631320945EBC@comcast.net>
References: <672185D6-7EE0-4636-BF37-631320945EBC@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20180117085622.7d518430@ladybug>

Hello Ernest,


On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 19:51:02 -0700 Ernest Nitka <enitka1 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Raspberry Pi 3 . When I launch claws the welcome screen comes up and nothing happens.  Help?

What's in output if you start claws-mail from a terminal? (`claws-mail
--debug`, even)

To me it looks like a crash, would be nice to start claws-mail from gdb
and get a `bt` when the crash happens.


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From shai at platonix.com  Wed Jan 17 09:12:01 2018
From: shai at platonix.com (Shai Berger)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 10:12:01 +0200
Subject: [Users] Surprising actions behavior
In-Reply-To: <20171225191129.29f43f5c@pfortin.com>
References: <20171217020108.2a6aa3bb.shai@platonix.com>
 <20171226011700.19f5da6d.shai@platonix.com>
 <20171225191129.29f43f5c@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20180117101201.1f2c5ecb.shai@platonix.com>

Hi,

Raising this thread after a few weeks...

In the original mail I raised four issues:

1) Logging of actions is a feature I would like to add. I got no
response on that. Is there a reason not to add action reports to the
filtering log?

2) A very minor, aesthetic issue (redundant "stop" operation available
in filter-actions used in user-actions)

3) Failure of configured actions. With the help of Pierre and Andrej, I
now understand how this follows from the definition of some actions as
"final", and for me it is mostly solved. This is being handled at
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3919

4) The last, and still annoying issue: When a filter-action in a
user-action moves a message out of the folder, selection goes to the
first unread message in the folder rather than to the next or previous
message, regardless of selection-when-entering-a-folder or
next_on_delete configurations.

I assume the last one is a bug.

Thanks,
	Shai.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jan 17 11:14:30 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 10:14:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] Surprising actions behavior
In-Reply-To: <20180117101201.1f2c5ecb.shai@platonix.com>
References: <20171217020108.2a6aa3bb.shai@platonix.com>
 <20171226011700.19f5da6d.shai@platonix.com>
 <20171225191129.29f43f5c@pfortin.com>
 <20180117101201.1f2c5ecb.shai@platonix.com>
Message-ID: <20180117101430.371d8903@kujata>

On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 10:12:01 +0200
Shai Berger <shai at platonix.com> wrote: 

> 1) Logging of actions is a feature I would like to add. I got no
> response on that. Is there a reason not to add action reports to the
> filtering log?

The first reason that comes to mind is that running Actions is not
filtering, so for the same reason it doesn't get added to the network
log, it doesn't get added to the filtering log either.

> 2) A very minor, aesthetic issue (redundant "stop" operation
> available in filter-actions used in user-actions)

It's not redundant, it has its uses, albeit limited.

> 4) The last, and still annoying issue: When a filter-action in a
> user-action moves a message out of the folder, selection goes to the
> first unread message in the folder rather than to the next or
> previous message, regardless of selection-when-entering-a-folder or
> next_on_delete configurations.

First point is that you're already in the folder, you are not
entering the folder. It's also not a Delete (/Message/Delete) or
Move (/Message/Move), which is what the next_on_delete applies to.
That doesn't make it less annoying, I agree. :) 

with regards

Paul


From ricardo at mones.org  Wed Jan 17 13:21:50 2018
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 13:21:50 +0100
Subject: [Users] Newbie ?
In-Reply-To: <672185D6-7EE0-4636-BF37-631320945EBC@comcast.net>
References: <672185D6-7EE0-4636-BF37-631320945EBC@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20180117122150.lcqtmp5royzy3ylc@busgosu>

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 07:51:02PM -0700, Ernest Nitka wrote:
> Raspberry Pi 3 . When I launch claws the welcome screen comes up and
> nothing happens.  Help?

There's no welcome screen in Claws Mail, you're probably seeing the
initial configuration wizard. You have to configure at least one mail
account before starting to use Claws Mail.

The wizard dialogs should be self-explaining about required info, but if
you have some doubt on what's required let us know which field are you
having problems with (a screenshot may also help).

regards,
-- 
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  ~
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  Impatience, and Hubris.                                    man perl

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From shai at platonix.com  Wed Jan 17 18:31:35 2018
From: shai at platonix.com (Shai Berger)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 19:31:35 +0200
Subject: [Users] Surprising actions behavior
In-Reply-To: <20180117101430.371d8903@kujata>
References: <20171217020108.2a6aa3bb.shai@platonix.com>
 <20171226011700.19f5da6d.shai@platonix.com>
 <20171225191129.29f43f5c@pfortin.com>
 <20180117101201.1f2c5ecb.shai@platonix.com>
 <20180117101430.371d8903@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180117193135.3bc8befc.shai@platonix.com>

On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 10:14:30 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 10:12:01 +0200
> Shai Berger <shai at platonix.com> wrote: 
> 
> > 1) Logging of actions is a feature I would like to add. I got no
> > response on that. Is there a reason not to add action reports to the
> > filtering log?  
> 
> The first reason that comes to mind is that running Actions is not
> filtering, so for the same reason it doesn't get added to the network
> log, it doesn't get added to the filtering log either.
> 

I think I have been less than completely clear here: I'm referring
specifically to actions performed as part of filtering. For example,
the filtering of my last received message ends like so (actual
filtering rules irrelevant and redacted):

	[19:02:21] processing rule 'X' [ CONDS mark_as_read move
	"#mh/Mail/trash" ] 
	[19:02:21] checking if message matches [ CONDS ]
	> message matches
	[19:02:21] applying action [ mark_as_read ]
	[19:02:21] applying action [ move "#mh/Mail/trash" ]

Now, an action like "mark_as_read" can't reasonably fail -- if it does,
the user needs to be alerted and the operation aborted. But other
actions can fail in interesting ways; say, a Move onto a remote IMAP
server could fail, or -- the one that interested me -- 'execute'. I
think an `execute` action should report if it ended with a non-zero
return code, and (at least in that case) spill its stdout and stderr
into the filtering log.

> > 2) A very minor, aesthetic issue (redundant "stop" operation
> > available in filter-actions used in user-actions)  
> 
> It's not redundant, it has its uses, albeit limited.
> 

It's not redundant in filter actions  -- but in user-actions
(/Configuration/Actions)?

> > 4) The last, and still annoying issue: When a filter-action in a
> > user-action moves a message out of the folder, selection goes to the
> > first unread message in the folder rather than to the next or
> > previous message, regardless of selection-when-entering-a-folder or
> > next_on_delete configurations.  
> 
> First point is that you're already in the folder, you are not
> entering the folder. It's also not a Delete (/Message/Delete) or
> Move (/Message/Move), which is what the next_on_delete applies to.
> That doesn't make it less annoying, I agree. :) 
> 

I think that "Move in an action is not /Message/Move" is pretty much
what I'm complaining about.

Thanks,
	Shai.


From shai at platonix.com  Wed Jan 17 22:39:18 2018
From: shai at platonix.com (Shai Berger)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 23:39:18 +0200
Subject: [Users] Surprising actions behavior
In-Reply-To: <20180117193135.3bc8befc.shai@platonix.com>
References: <20171217020108.2a6aa3bb.shai@platonix.com>
 <20171226011700.19f5da6d.shai@platonix.com>
 <20171225191129.29f43f5c@pfortin.com>
 <20180117101201.1f2c5ecb.shai@platonix.com>
 <20180117101430.371d8903@kujata>
 <20180117193135.3bc8befc.shai@platonix.com>
Message-ID: <20180117233918.6c6d40e5.shai@platonix.com>

On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 19:31:35 +0200
Shai Berger <shai at platonix.com> wrote:

> > > 4) The last, and still annoying issue: When a filter-action in a
> > > user-action moves a message out of the folder, selection goes to
> > > the first unread message in the folder rather than to the next or
> > > previous message, regardless of selection-when-entering-a-folder
> > > or next_on_delete configurations.    
> > 
> > First point is that you're already in the folder, you are not
> > entering the folder. It's also not a Delete (/Message/Delete) or
> > Move (/Message/Move), which is what the next_on_delete applies to.
> > That doesn't make it less annoying, I agree. :) 
> >   
> 
> I think that "Move in an action is not /Message/Move" is pretty much
> what I'm complaining about.
> 

Well, I found another case, unrelated to Move: In a folder with some
unread messages, use the quick-search; put in something which does not
match the currently-selected message, but does match an unread message.
The first matching unread message is selected.

So now I'm guessing that this is the behavior whenever the selected
message suddenly becomes unavailable to display. I submit that, in this
case, the behavior should either follow a generalized version of
next_on_delete (selecting not the next/previous message generally, but
the next/previous message available to display), or behave as if
entering the folder (with no previously-selected message).

This is mostly a problem when combined with "mark message as read when
selected". I like "mark message as read when selected".

Thanks,
	Shai.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jan 17 23:00:22 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 22:00:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3950] New: marks all emails as "read"
Message-ID: <bug-3950-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3950

            Bug ID: 3950
           Summary: marks all emails as "read"
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.15.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: wazz at ellijay.com

Every now and then Claws marks all my emails in my main folder as "read".  It
has happened with prior versions, and now with the 64bit version.

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From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com  Thu Jan 18 09:02:23 2018
From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 09:02:23 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing the name of an account
Message-ID: <20180118090214.5ec6e272.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>

Greetings.

If I change the name of an account (via Configuration->Preferences for
current account->Account->Basic->Name of account) do I need to change
all the filters and actions that refer to it?  Or does this get taken
care of automatically?

Regards,
Tristan

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From subscript at free.fr  Thu Jan 18 09:12:45 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 09:12:45 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing the name of an account
In-Reply-To: <20180118090214.5ec6e272.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
References: <20180118090214.5ec6e272.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Message-ID: <20180118091245.5e171173@ladybug>

Hello Tristan,


On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 09:02:23 +0100 Tristan Miller <psychonaut at nothingisreal.com> wrote:

> Greetings.
> 
> If I change the name of an account (via Configuration->Preferences for
> current account->Account->Basic->Name of account) do I need to change
> all the filters and actions that refer to it?  Or does this get taken
> care of automatically?

It's automatic, internally, accounts are handled by their ID (which you
cannot change), even if their name is shown in the user interface.


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From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com  Thu Jan 18 10:44:38 2018
From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:44:38 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing the name of an account
In-Reply-To: <20180118091245.5e171173@ladybug>
References: <20180118090214.5ec6e272.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118091245.5e171173@ladybug>
Message-ID: <20180118104432.02a31136.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>

Greetings.

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 09:12:45 +0100, wwp <subscript at free.fr>
wrote:
> > If I change the name of an account (via Configuration->Preferences
> > for current account->Account->Basic->Name of account) do I need to
> > change all the filters and actions that refer to it?  Or does this
> > get taken care of automatically?
> 
> It's automatic, internally, accounts are handled by their ID (which
> you cannot change), even if their name is shown in the user interface.

OK, that's reassuring.  I asked because all the rc files in the
~/.claws-mail directory that record filtering and actions refer to
accounts by name.  I thought maybe that these rc files reflected the
"internal" representation.

Regards,
Tristan

-- 
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                  Tristan Miller
Free Software developer, ferret herder, logologist
             https://logological.org/
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 10:56:23 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 09:56:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] Changing the name of an account
In-Reply-To: <20180118104432.02a31136.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
References: <20180118090214.5ec6e272.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118091245.5e171173@ladybug>
 <20180118104432.02a31136.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Message-ID: <20180118095623.75461e8b@kujata>

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:44:38 +0100
Tristan Miller <psychonaut at nothingisreal.com> wrote: 

> all the rc files in the
> ~/.claws-mail directory that record filtering and actions refer to
> accounts by name.  

No, they refer to them by number.
e.g.:

enabled rulename "foo" account 9 subject matchcase "foo" color 2

with regards

Paul


From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com  Thu Jan 18 11:06:52 2018
From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:06:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing the name of an account
In-Reply-To: <20180118095623.75461e8b@kujata>
References: <20180118090214.5ec6e272.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118091245.5e171173@ladybug>
 <20180118104432.02a31136.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118095623.75461e8b@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180118110645.5fe7ae12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>

Dear Paul,

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 09:56:23 +0000, Paul
<claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:44:38 +0100
> Tristan Miller <psychonaut at nothingisreal.com> wrote: 
> 
> > all the rc files in the
> > ~/.claws-mail directory that record filtering and actions refer to
> > accounts by name.    
> 
> No, they refer to them by number.
> e.g.:
> 
> enabled rulename "foo" account 9 subject matchcase "foo" color 2

But not in the case of move targets, it seems:

enabled rulename "foo" account 1 from matchcase "bar"
move "#imap/foo/INBOX/baz" stop

Regards,
Tristan

-- 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                  Tristan Miller
Free Software developer, ferret herder, logologist
             https://logological.org/
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 07:46:02 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 06:46:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3951] New: First unread message selected surprisingly
 in some scenarios
Message-ID: <bug-3951-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3951

            Bug ID: 3951
           Summary: First unread message selected surprisingly in some
                    scenarios
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.16.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message List
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: shai at platonix.com

I've seen three scenarios, which are really two, where the first unread message
in the folder is selected. In some of these scenarios it is annoying because it
moves the selection far from where it was (and where it was expected to be). In
all of them it is also annoying in combination with the "mark message as read:
when selected" setting, because if one is not careful, messages get marked as
read when the user wanted to keep them unread.

The first scenario is when the selected message becomes unavailable to display,
and not through an explicit delete or move operation. I've seen two cases of
this:

(1) When the selected message is moved by an action (e.g. marking as spam)

(2) When searching the folder, and the selected message does not match the
search criteria, but some other unread message does

The second scenario is the converse -- when you're in a folder, no message is
selected, but unread messages suddenly become available to display

(3) After searching a folder using criteria which match nothing, no message is
selected. Clearing the search criteria then selects the first unread message

Ideally, in case (1) above the behavior should be ruled by the next_on_delete
setting, and in cases (2) and (3) by the
default-selection-when-entering-a-folder setting. I'd also consider "no
selection" as reasonable behavior in all three cases, but this may just be my
bias (my default-selection-when-entering is set to "previously selected;
none").

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 11:19:30 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:19:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] Changing the name of an account
In-Reply-To: <20180118110645.5fe7ae12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
References: <20180118090214.5ec6e272.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118091245.5e171173@ladybug>
 <20180118104432.02a31136.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118095623.75461e8b@kujata>
 <20180118110645.5fe7ae12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Message-ID: <20180118101930.395d7228@kujata>

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:06:52 +0100
Tristan Miller <psychonaut at nothingisreal.com> wrote: 

> But not in the case of move targets, it seems:
> 
> enabled rulename "foo" account 1 from matchcase "bar"
> move "#imap/foo/INBOX/baz" stop

In fact, yes. That's a mailbox and not an account.

with regards

Paul


From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com  Thu Jan 18 11:24:08 2018
From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:24:08 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing the name of an account
In-Reply-To: <20180118101930.395d7228@kujata>
References: <20180118090214.5ec6e272.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118091245.5e171173@ladybug>
 <20180118104432.02a31136.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118095623.75461e8b@kujata>
 <20180118110645.5fe7ae12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118101930.395d7228@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180118112401.49564743.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>

Dear Paul,

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:19:30 +0000, Paul
> > But not in the case of move targets, it seems:
> > 
> > enabled rulename "foo" account 1 from matchcase "bar"
> > move "#imap/foo/INBOX/baz" stop  
> 
> In fact, yes. That's a mailbox and not an account.

OK, thanks.  Perhaps you can answer this question for me: Why, when
changing the name of an account, does Claws Mail automatically change
the associated mailbox name in the move targets of all my filter rules,
but not the associated mailbox name in the move targets of my actions?
Is that a bug?

Regards,
Tristan

-- 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                  Tristan Miller
Free Software developer, ferret herder, logologist
             https://logological.org/
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-


From colin at colino.net  Thu Jan 18 11:25:57 2018
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:25:57 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing the name of an account
In-Reply-To: <20180118101930.395d7228@kujata>
References: <20180118090214.5ec6e272.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118091245.5e171173@ladybug>
 <20180118104432.02a31136.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118095623.75461e8b@kujata>
 <20180118110645.5fe7ae12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118101930.395d7228@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180118112557.44a688bb@colin.i-run.lau>

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:19:30 +0000, Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>
wrote:

> > But not in the case of move targets, it seems:
> > 
> > enabled rulename "foo" account 1 from matchcase "bar"
> > move "#imap/foo/INBOX/baz" stop  
> 
> In fact, yes. That's a mailbox and not an account.

If renaming the account renames the mailbox (I think it does), the
filtering actions will be updated to reflect the new mailbox name,
anyway.

-- 
Colin


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 11:31:21 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:31:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] Changing the name of an account
In-Reply-To: <20180118112401.49564743.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
References: <20180118090214.5ec6e272.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118091245.5e171173@ladybug>
 <20180118104432.02a31136.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118095623.75461e8b@kujata>
 <20180118110645.5fe7ae12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118101930.395d7228@kujata>
 <20180118112401.49564743.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Message-ID: <20180118103121.24922932@kujata>

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:24:08 +0100
Tristan Miller <psychonaut at nothingisreal.com> wrote: 

> Why, when
> changing the name of an account, does Claws Mail automatically
> change the associated mailbox name

It doesn't necessarily. In your case you are talking about IMAP
accounts, which do get a mailbox per account. In the case of POP
accounts, they can all share a single mailbox and that mailbox name
is not linked to any of those POP accounts directly.

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 11:33:59 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:33:59 +0000
Subject: [Users] Changing the name of an account
In-Reply-To: <20180118112557.44a688bb@colin.i-run.lau>
References: <20180118090214.5ec6e272.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118091245.5e171173@ladybug>
 <20180118104432.02a31136.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118095623.75461e8b@kujata>
 <20180118110645.5fe7ae12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118101930.395d7228@kujata>
 <20180118112557.44a688bb@colin.i-run.lau>
Message-ID: <20180118103359.349d8d81@kujata>

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:25:57 +0100
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote: 

> If renaming the account renames the mailbox (I think it does)

For IMAP accounts, yes. And that's an important distinction here.

with regards

Paul


From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com  Thu Jan 18 11:39:26 2018
From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:39:26 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing the name of an account
In-Reply-To: <20180118103121.24922932@kujata>
References: <20180118090214.5ec6e272.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118091245.5e171173@ladybug>
 <20180118104432.02a31136.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118095623.75461e8b@kujata>
 <20180118110645.5fe7ae12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118101930.395d7228@kujata>
 <20180118112401.49564743.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118103121.24922932@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180118113920.7a93ee10.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>

Dear Paul,

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:31:21 +0000, Paul
<claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> > Why, when
> > changing the name of an account, does Claws Mail automatically
> > change the associated mailbox name  
> 
> It doesn't necessarily. In your case you are talking about IMAP
> accounts, which do get a mailbox per account. In the case of POP
> accounts, they can all share a single mailbox and that mailbox name
> is not linked to any of those POP accounts directly.

Thanks, but that distinction isn't really relevant to my question.  For
the same (IMAP) account, renaming the account updates the mailbox names
mentioned in the filters but not in the actions.  Is this by design or
is this a bug?

Regards,
Tristan

-- 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                  Tristan Miller
Free Software developer, ferret herder, logologist
             https://logological.org/
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-


From colin at colino.net  Thu Jan 18 11:42:25 2018
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:42:25 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing the name of an account
In-Reply-To: <20180118113920.7a93ee10.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
References: <20180118090214.5ec6e272.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118091245.5e171173@ladybug>
 <20180118104432.02a31136.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118095623.75461e8b@kujata>
 <20180118110645.5fe7ae12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118101930.395d7228@kujata>
 <20180118112401.49564743.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118103121.24922932@kujata>
 <20180118113920.7a93ee10.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Message-ID: <20180118114225.4eb68918@colin.i-run.lau>

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:39:26 +0100, Tristan Miller
<psychonaut at nothingisreal.com> wrote:

> For
> the same (IMAP) account, renaming the account updates the mailbox
> names mentioned in the filters but not in the actions.  Is this by
> design or is this a bug?

For "shell commands" actions, that's by design. For "filter actions"
actions, if renaming doesn't happen, that may well be a bug.

-- 
Colin


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 11:43:39 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:43:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] Changing the name of an account
In-Reply-To: <20180118113920.7a93ee10.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
References: <20180118090214.5ec6e272.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118091245.5e171173@ladybug>
 <20180118104432.02a31136.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118095623.75461e8b@kujata>
 <20180118110645.5fe7ae12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118101930.395d7228@kujata>
 <20180118112401.49564743.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118103121.24922932@kujata>
 <20180118113920.7a93ee10.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Message-ID: <20180118104339.5ab1709a@kujata>

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:39:26 +0100
Tristan Miller <psychonaut at nothingisreal.com> wrote: 

> Thanks, but that distinction isn't really relevant to my question.
> For the same (IMAP) account, renaming the account updates the
> mailbox names mentioned in the filters but not in the actions.  Is
> this by design or is this a bug?

What actions? Do you mean the Actions feature?
(/Configuration/Actions)

with regards

Paul


From colin at colino.net  Thu Jan 18 11:44:36 2018
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:44:36 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing the name of an account
In-Reply-To: <20180118114225.4eb68918@colin.i-run.lau>
References: <20180118090214.5ec6e272.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118091245.5e171173@ladybug>
 <20180118104432.02a31136.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118095623.75461e8b@kujata>
 <20180118110645.5fe7ae12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118101930.395d7228@kujata>
 <20180118112401.49564743.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118103121.24922932@kujata>
 <20180118113920.7a93ee10.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118114225.4eb68918@colin.i-run.lau>
Message-ID: <20180118114436.348fc879@colin.i-run.lau>

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:42:25 +0100, Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
wrote:

> > For the same (IMAP) account, renaming the account updates the
> > mailbox names mentioned in the filters but not in the actions.  Is
> > this by design or is this a bug?  
> 
> For "shell commands" actions, that's by design. For "filter actions"
> actions, if renaming doesn't happen, that may well be a bug.

Although I just tried, and renaming is done for "filter actions"
actions (%as{...})

-- 
Colin


From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com  Thu Jan 18 11:48:20 2018
From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:48:20 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing the name of an account
In-Reply-To: <20180118114225.4eb68918@colin.i-run.lau>
References: <20180118090214.5ec6e272.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118091245.5e171173@ladybug>
 <20180118104432.02a31136.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118095623.75461e8b@kujata>
 <20180118110645.5fe7ae12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118101930.395d7228@kujata>
 <20180118112401.49564743.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118103121.24922932@kujata>
 <20180118113920.7a93ee10.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118114225.4eb68918@colin.i-run.lau>
Message-ID: <20180118114820.7b3fd82c.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>

Greetings.

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:42:25 +0100, Colin Leroy
<colin at colino.net> wrote:
> For "shell commands" actions, that's by design. For "filter actions"
> actions, if renaming doesn't happen, that may well be a bug.

Yes, I'm talking about filter actions.  I'll post a bug report then.

Regards,
Tristan

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             https://logological.org/
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 11:48:33 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:48:33 +0000
Subject: [Users] Changing the name of an account
In-Reply-To: <20180118114225.4eb68918@colin.i-run.lau>
References: <20180118090214.5ec6e272.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118091245.5e171173@ladybug>
 <20180118104432.02a31136.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118095623.75461e8b@kujata>
 <20180118110645.5fe7ae12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118101930.395d7228@kujata>
 <20180118112401.49564743.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118103121.24922932@kujata>
 <20180118113920.7a93ee10.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118114225.4eb68918@colin.i-run.lau>
Message-ID: <20180118104833.6d74cddc@kujata>

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:42:25 +0100
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote: 

> For "filter actions"
> actions, if renaming doesn't happen, that may well be a bug.

It does happen, they also get renamed.

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 11:55:13 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:55:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] Changing the name of an account
In-Reply-To: <20180118104833.6d74cddc@kujata>
References: <20180118090214.5ec6e272.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118091245.5e171173@ladybug>
 <20180118104432.02a31136.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118095623.75461e8b@kujata>
 <20180118110645.5fe7ae12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118101930.395d7228@kujata>
 <20180118112401.49564743.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118103121.24922932@kujata>
 <20180118113920.7a93ee10.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118114225.4eb68918@colin.i-run.lau>
 <20180118104833.6d74cddc@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180118105513.37dae5a0@kujata>

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:48:33 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote: 

> It does happen, they also get renamed.

In fact, further testing reveals that there is a bug there.

when I rename the account and then open the Actions config window it
does show that it is renamed there. However, the config file is not
updated, so when I restart claws-mail that change is lost.

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 12:10:39 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:10:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] Changing the name of an account
In-Reply-To: <20180118114820.7b3fd82c.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
References: <20180118090214.5ec6e272.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118091245.5e171173@ladybug>
 <20180118104432.02a31136.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118095623.75461e8b@kujata>
 <20180118110645.5fe7ae12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118101930.395d7228@kujata>
 <20180118112401.49564743.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118103121.24922932@kujata>
 <20180118113920.7a93ee10.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118114225.4eb68918@colin.i-run.lau>
 <20180118114820.7b3fd82c.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Message-ID: <20180118111039.0cd9d86b@kujata>

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:48:20 +0100
Tristan Miller <psychonaut at nothingisreal.com> wrote: 

> I'll post a bug report then.

No need, this is now fixed in GIT.

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 12:42:30 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:42:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3944-595-J7AxYkTAzB@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3944

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
How are you qutting claws-mail? Just killing it, or a proper, clean exit?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 12:52:56 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:52:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3944-595-yFthsVtDE4@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3944

--- Comment #2 from niroday at yandex.ru ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> How are you qutting claws-mail? Just killing it, or a proper, clean exit?

File-Exit or Ctrl+Q

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 13:04:06 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:04:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3944-595-MQH7BGcrLi@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3944

--- Comment #3 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
And yet you get the "Claws Mail has detected a configured mailbox, but it is
incomplete...." dialogue every time you start claws-mail?

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From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com  Thu Jan 18 13:27:06 2018
From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 13:27:06 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing the name of an account
In-Reply-To: <20180118111039.0cd9d86b@kujata>
References: <20180118090214.5ec6e272.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118091245.5e171173@ladybug>
 <20180118104432.02a31136.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118095623.75461e8b@kujata>
 <20180118110645.5fe7ae12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118101930.395d7228@kujata>
 <20180118112401.49564743.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118103121.24922932@kujata>
 <20180118113920.7a93ee10.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118114225.4eb68918@colin.i-run.lau>
 <20180118114820.7b3fd82c.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118111039.0cd9d86b@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180118132706.4c32fb23.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>

Dear Paul,

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:10:39 +0000, Paul
<claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:48:20 +0100
> Tristan Miller <psychonaut at nothingisreal.com> wrote: 
> 
> > I'll post a bug report then.  
> 
> No need, this is now fixed in GIT.

Thanks for the speedy fix.  It's not just actionsrc but also
folderitemrc that looks wrong after renaming an account, so I'll
still open a bug for the latter issue.

Regards,
Tristan

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 13:34:46 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:34:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] Changing the name of an account
In-Reply-To: <20180118132706.4c32fb23.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
References: <20180118090214.5ec6e272.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118091245.5e171173@ladybug>
 <20180118104432.02a31136.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118095623.75461e8b@kujata>
 <20180118110645.5fe7ae12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118101930.395d7228@kujata>
 <20180118112401.49564743.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118103121.24922932@kujata>
 <20180118113920.7a93ee10.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118114225.4eb68918@colin.i-run.lau>
 <20180118114820.7b3fd82c.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118111039.0cd9d86b@kujata>
 <20180118132706.4c32fb23.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Message-ID: <20180118123446.2be69a5a@kujata>

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 13:27:06 +0100
Tristan Miller <psychonaut at nothingisreal.com> wrote: 

> It's not just actionsrc but also
> folderitemrc that looks wrong after renaming an account, so I'll
> still open a bug for the latter issue.

That's a different issue. The issue here is that, rather than
renaming an existing item, a new item, with the new name, is added.

with regards

Paul


From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com  Thu Jan 18 13:39:59 2018
From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 13:39:59 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing the name of an account
In-Reply-To: <20180118123446.2be69a5a@kujata>
References: <20180118090214.5ec6e272.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118091245.5e171173@ladybug>
 <20180118104432.02a31136.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118095623.75461e8b@kujata>
 <20180118110645.5fe7ae12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118101930.395d7228@kujata>
 <20180118112401.49564743.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118103121.24922932@kujata>
 <20180118113920.7a93ee10.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118114225.4eb68918@colin.i-run.lau>
 <20180118114820.7b3fd82c.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118111039.0cd9d86b@kujata>
 <20180118132706.4c32fb23.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
 <20180118123446.2be69a5a@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180118133959.53a9ce0b.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>

Greetings.

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:34:46 +0000, Paul
<claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> > It's not just actionsrc but also
> > folderitemrc that looks wrong after renaming an account, so I'll
> > still open a bug for the latter issue.  
> 
> That's a different issue. The issue here is that, rather than
> renaming an existing item, a new item, with the new name, is added.

Yes, that's pretty much what my new bug report says.

Regards,
Tristan

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 13:10:58 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:10:58 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3944-595-glaOyHMHwB@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3944

--- Comment #4 from niroday at yandex.ru ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> And yet you get the "Claws Mail has detected a configured mailbox, but it is
> incomplete...." dialogue every time you start claws-mail?

Yes, i do. I can make a short record if it's needed.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 13:28:00 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:28:00 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3952] New: Renaming an account copies rather than
 replaces folder settings
Message-ID: <bug-3952-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3952

            Bug ID: 3952
           Summary: Renaming an account copies rather than replaces folder
                    settings
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.16.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com

When I rename an IMAP account (Configuration->Preferences for current
account->Account->Basic->Name of account), the folder settings for the
associated mailbox are correctly preserved.  However, folderitemrc then
contains two copies of all the folder settings: one set for the mailbox's old
name, and one set for the mailbox's new name.  I think the old folder settings
(i.e., the ones referencing the previous mailbox name) should have been
removed.  At best, keeping the old ones around pollutes the rc file with a
bunch of dangling entries; at worst, they might prevent the default folder
settings from being applied if the user later creates a new account with the
old name.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 13:52:53 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:52:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3944-595-dJJGCGdr65@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3944

--- Comment #5 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
how many accounts do you have?

Please check /Configuration/Edit Accounts/...

and verify that ~/.claws-mail/accountrc corresponds with that.

Then check ~/.claws-mail/folderlist.xml and verify that that also corresponds.

(You can send me those 2 files privately, if you want me to check.)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 14:14:52 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 13:14:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3944-595-MbkgPLylYc@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3944

--- Comment #6 from niroday at yandex.ru ---
(In reply to comment #5)
> how many accounts do you have?
> 
> Please check /Configuration/Edit Accounts/...
> 
> and verify that ~/.claws-mail/accountrc corresponds with that.
> 
> Then check ~/.claws-mail/folderlist.xml and verify that that also
> corresponds.
> 
> (You can send me those 2 files privately, if you want me to check.)

I checked it. Seems like they correspond. Anyway sent it to you.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 14:33:27 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 13:33:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3944-595-C1Xc6duDC6@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3944

--- Comment #7 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Thanks for sending the files.

Your accountrc seems messed up somehow.

Account 2 is using Account 1's IMAP mailbox, and Account 1 is using a
non-existant MH mailbox.

Quit claws-mail, backup your accountrc, then make the follwing changes to
accountrc:

for Account 2, set
inbox=#imap/LVA/INBOX
local_inbox=#imap/LVA/INBOX

and for Account 1, set
inbox=#imap/niroday/INBOX
local_inbox=#imap/niroday/INBOX

Restart claws-mail. You should get the "Claws Mail has detected a configured
mailbox, but it is incomplete...." dialogue on the first run, but after that it
should all be OK.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 14:45:27 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 13:45:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3918] Claws presents 1y old certificate as new and
 asks for exchange
In-Reply-To: <bug-3918-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3918-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3918-595-Yyv0BtoDMO@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3918

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #3 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
There's nowhere to go with this. Claws Mail gets the certificate from the
server. posteo say they didn't offer an old cert, so that's a stalemate.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 14:47:40 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 13:47:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3944-595-NNIxMQyhBA@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3944

--- Comment #8 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
If the manual editing of accountrc still does not resolve the issue, just
remove both accounts and then re-add them.

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From jn.ml.clwm.729 at letterboxes.org  Thu Jan 18 15:30:53 2018
From: jn.ml.clwm.729 at letterboxes.org (Jeremy Nicoll)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 14:30:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <bug-3944-595-NNIxMQyhBA@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3944-595-NNIxMQyhBA@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <1516285853.3093567.1239815680.2A91558D@webmail.messagingengine.com>

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018, at 13:47, noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:
> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3944
> 
> --- Comment #8 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
> If the manual editing of accountrc still does not resolve the issue, just
> remove both accounts and then re-add them.

Having just been reading about things like filter definitions
recording internally account numbers, I'm curious what happens
to filter defs (etc) when one removes an account that they refer
to?  Do the filter defs get deleted?  Or kept but no longer work?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 15:01:19 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 14:01:19 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3944-595-T8bQ0vSCg2@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3944

--- Comment #9 from niroday at yandex.ru ---
(In reply to comment #8)
> If the manual editing of accountrc still does not resolve the issue, just
> remove both accounts and then re-add them.

Unfortunately, manual reconfiguring doesn't resolve this issue, just as you
said. I deleted both of my accounts and then found accountrc empty. After
adding the first account, i found this strange
inbox=#mh/Mailbox/inbox
local_inbox=#mh/Mailbox/inbox
again as well as i get the same message on claws-mail startup.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 15:37:11 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 14:37:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3944-595-tvwPa0frj0@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3944

--- Comment #10 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
it could be that at least one of your imap accounts is misconfigured, logging
in is not possible, and therefore 'rebuild folder tree' cannot complete.

Do you see now two imap mailboxes? Can you successfully run 'rebuild folder
tree' on both (right-click the top-level mailbox folder for this menu item)

I am trying to set up things here in order to try to reproduce your problem, in
the meantime if you can do the above tests and report back that would be good.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 15:53:52 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 14:53:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3944-595-2DJlPzPdAw@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3944

--- Comment #11 from niroday at yandex.ru ---
(In reply to comment #10)
> it could be that at least one of your imap accounts is misconfigured,
> logging in is not possible, and therefore 'rebuild folder tree' cannot
> complete.
> 
> Do you see now two imap mailboxes? Can you successfully run 'rebuild folder
> tree' on both (right-click the top-level mailbox folder for this menu item)
> 
> I am trying to set up things here in order to try to reproduce your problem,
> in the meantime if you can do the above tests and report back that would be
> good.

If i start CM from my terminal i can see these messages when rebuilding folder
tree is running:

** (claws-mail:14685): WARNING **: [17:43:32] can't create mailbox

In case this fail depends on folder rights, i have /var/spool/mail (i'm running
arch and /var/mail is a link to /var/spool/mail):

drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 4.0K Oct 17 10:32 mail

Every single file in $HOME/.claws-mail:

-rw-r--r-- 1 localuser users

The other things like receiving or sending e-mails works without any errors. 
Hope it helps.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 16:02:57 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 15:02:57 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3944-595-o5TuqW20e8@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3944

--- Comment #12 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
It's nothing to do with the local spool (/var/mail/spool)

It's looking more and more like a misocnfigured imap account (or both of them).

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 16:05:16 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 15:05:16 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3944-595-GYakaeVXqk@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3944

--- Comment #13 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Do you see both IMAP accounts in the folder list?

Do they both show folders or just a single top-level folder?

If you just see the single top-level folder with no sub-folders then it is
almost certainly that you are not able to log-in to the server with the
credentials you have provided.

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 16:17:00 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 15:17:00 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <1516285853.3093567.1239815680.2A91558D@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3944-595-NNIxMQyhBA@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <1516285853.3093567.1239815680.2A91558D@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <20180118151700.49fbd792@kujata>

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 14:30:53 +0000
Jeremy Nicoll <jn.ml.clwm.729 at letterboxes.org> wrote: 

> Having just been reading about things like filter definitions
> recording internally account numbers, I'm curious what happens
> to filter defs (etc) when one removes an account that they refer
> to?  Do the filter defs get deleted?  Or kept but no longer work?

You're in the wrong thread.

I just tested, and unfortunately they just get left behind.

with regards

Paul


From jn.ml.clwm.729 at letterboxes.org  Thu Jan 18 16:21:20 2018
From: jn.ml.clwm.729 at letterboxes.org (Jeremy Nicoll)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 15:21:20 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <20180118151700.49fbd792@kujata>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3944-595-NNIxMQyhBA@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <1516285853.3093567.1239815680.2A91558D@webmail.messagingengine.com>
 <20180118151700.49fbd792@kujata>
Message-ID: <1516288880.3109276.1239876336.3178658B@webmail.messagingengine.com>

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018, at 15:17, Paul wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 14:30:53 +0000
> Jeremy Nicoll <jn.ml.clwm.729 at letterboxes.org> wrote: 
> 
> > Having just been reading about things like filter definitions
> > recording internally account numbers, I'm curious what happens
> > to filter defs (etc) when one removes an account that they refer
> > to?  Do the filter defs get deleted?  Or kept but no longer work?
> 
> You're in the wrong thread.

I'm not.  You just suggested someone delete and re-add 
account definitions, and I was basically asking if that 
would cause collateral damage to other definition files.


> I just tested, and unfortunately they just get left behind.

I was going to go on and ask if there's an easy way to
find a set of 'orphan' definitions and update them to
(presumably) a new internal account number.


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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 16:37:28 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 15:37:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <1516288880.3109276.1239876336.3178658B@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3944-595-NNIxMQyhBA@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <1516285853.3093567.1239815680.2A91558D@webmail.messagingengine.com>
 <20180118151700.49fbd792@kujata>
 <1516288880.3109276.1239876336.3178658B@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <20180118153728.55175b17@kujata>

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 15:21:20 +0000
Jeremy Nicoll <jn.ml.clwm.729 at letterboxes.org> wrote: 

> I'm not.  You just suggested someone delete and re-add 
> account definitions, and I was basically asking if that 
> would cause collateral damage to other definition files.

Well, yes, you are. This thread is for [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP
account on startup, which has nothing to do with filtering or
deleting accounts.

> > I just tested, and unfortunately they just get left behind.  
> 
> I was going to go on and ask if there's an easy way to
> find a set of 'orphan' definitions and update them to
> (presumably) a new internal account number.

If the filter rule is assigned to an Account and that Account gets
deleted, then its filter rules get removed also.

If the filter rule moves a message to an IMAP mailbox, and that IMAP
mailbox is removed, the filter rules does not get removed. Which is
messy, but the message to be moved does not get lost, it just gets
dumped into the inbox, as if unfiltered.

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 16:20:41 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 15:20:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3944-595-lbt8punMUm@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3944

--- Comment #14 from niroday at yandex.ru ---
(In reply to comment #13)
> Do you see both IMAP accounts in the folder list?
> 
> Do they both show folders or just a single top-level folder?
> 
> If you just see the single top-level folder with no sub-folders then it is
> almost certainly that you are not able to log-in to the server with the
> credentials you have provided.

Yes, i see them both.
They both show folders just like if i access my account using browser.
I'm sure i see every folder as well as i can without a error receive and send
messages from both of my accounts.
I've just tried another e-mail client with exactly the same imap settings and
experienced no problems.

Please tell me if you need more information.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 16:26:40 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 15:26:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3944-595-dSnBrWyHLu@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3944

--- Comment #15 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
OK, time for drastic measures...

Move (or rename) your whole ~/.claws-mail directory out of the way, and start
from scratch.

If possible, create a video of the operation and/or supply a complete debug
log. (You'll need to start with `claws-mail --debug > claws-mail.debug` for
that.)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 17:03:42 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 16:03:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3944-595-O2vQuqkxpX@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3944

--- Comment #16 from niroday at yandex.ru ---
(In reply to comment #15)
> OK, time for drastic measures...
> 
> Move (or rename) your whole ~/.claws-mail directory out of the way, and
> start from scratch.
> 
> If possible, create a video of the operation and/or supply a complete debug
> log. (You'll need to start with `claws-mail --debug > claws-mail.debug` for
> that.)

Sent you all the data. I made a little mistake when showing an english version
of yandex imap settings page. Of course i use imap/smtp.yandex.ru. Sorry for
that.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 17:47:12 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 16:47:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3944-595-jecWxKm8g7@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3944

--- Comment #17 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
i created a yandex imap account and don't have any problems at all.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 17:52:26 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 16:52:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3944-595-TYofq74E6d@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3944

--- Comment #18 from niroday at yandex.ru ---
(In reply to comment #17)
> i created a yandex imap account and don't have any problems at all.

I hope the video shows that i do nothing wrong configuring account. So it could
be distro specific problems or something else?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 17:55:59 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 16:55:59 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3944-595-fbYojlU99M@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3944

--- Comment #19 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Perhaps you using arch is pertinent. We have seen a lot of odd, unreproducible
problems from arch users.

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From jn.ml.clwm.729 at letterboxes.org  Thu Jan 18 18:55:58 2018
From: jn.ml.clwm.729 at letterboxes.org (Jeremy Nicoll)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 17:55:58 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <20180118153728.55175b17@kujata>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3944-595-NNIxMQyhBA@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <1516285853.3093567.1239815680.2A91558D@webmail.messagingengine.com>
 <20180118151700.49fbd792@kujata>
 <1516288880.3109276.1239876336.3178658B@webmail.messagingengine.com>
 <20180118153728.55175b17@kujata>
Message-ID: <1516298158.3157180.1240070072.19D7C619@webmail.messagingengine.com>

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018, at 15:37, Paul wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 15:21:20 +0000
> Jeremy Nicoll <jn.ml.clwm.729 at letterboxes.org> wrote: 
> 
> > I'm not.  You just suggested someone delete and re-add 
> > account definitions, and I was basically asking if that 
> > would cause collateral damage to other definition files.
> 
> Well, yes, you are. This thread is for [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP
> account on startup, which has nothing to do with filtering or
> deleting accounts.

Ok, yes, not directly.  And that's why I didn't post my question
on the thread itself in the bug tracker.

But because of the parallel discussion of accounts being 
referenced by their seqence id (I presume) in other config
files, I wondered if the user you'd just told IN THIS THREAD
to delete and redefine accounts would screw up those other
files by doing so.

I was surprised you hadn't discussed how a user might 
preserver these related definitions so that they could be 
more easily reinstated after the deleted & added accounts.


> > > I just tested, and unfortunately they just get left behind.  
> > 
> > I was going to go on and ask if there's an easy way to
> > find a set of 'orphan' definitions and update them to
> > (presumably) a new internal account number.
> 
> If the filter rule is assigned to an Account and that Account gets
> deleted, then its filter rules get removed also.

So in this case, the user might have had lots of definitions that 
would need recreated.



> If the filter rule moves a message to an IMAP mailbox, and that IMAP
> mailbox is removed, the filter rules does not get removed. Which is
> messy, but the message to be moved does not get lost, it just gets
> dumped into the inbox, as if unfiltered.

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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Thu Jan 18 19:12:05 2018
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 18:12:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <1516298158.3157180.1240070072.19D7C619@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3944-595-NNIxMQyhBA@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <1516285853.3093567.1239815680.2A91558D@webmail.messagingengine.com>
 <20180118151700.49fbd792@kujata>
 <1516288880.3109276.1239876336.3178658B@webmail.messagingengine.com>
 <20180118153728.55175b17@kujata>
 <1516298158.3157180.1240070072.19D7C619@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <20180118181205.00000548@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 17:55:58 +0000
Jeremy Nicoll wrote:

> So in this case, the user might have had lots of definitions that 
> would need recreated.

It's always sensible to back up ~/.claws-mail somewhere...

-- 

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 18:20:55 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 17:20:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3944-595-rIz0Dwrxjz@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3944

--- Comment #20 from niroday at yandex.ru ---
(In reply to comment #19)
> Perhaps you using arch is pertinent. We have seen a lot of odd,
> unreproducible problems from arch users.

Anyway thanks a lot for your help and your time. Should i close the ticket?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 19:17:44 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 18:17:44 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3944-595-tNqsHC1TvH@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3944

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #21 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
yes, I think closing it is the right thing to do now - I'll close it.

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 18 19:19:30 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 18:19:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <1516298158.3157180.1240070072.19D7C619@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3944-595-NNIxMQyhBA@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <1516285853.3093567.1239815680.2A91558D@webmail.messagingengine.com>
 <20180118151700.49fbd792@kujata>
 <1516288880.3109276.1239876336.3178658B@webmail.messagingengine.com>
 <20180118153728.55175b17@kujata>
 <1516298158.3157180.1240070072.19D7C619@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <20180118181930.4f79b6ba@kujata>

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 17:55:58 +0000
Jeremy Nicoll <jn.ml.clwm.729 at letterboxes.org> wrote: 

> So in this case, the user might have had lots of definitions that 
> would need recreated.

I doubt it. If they are assigned to an account they are for that
account only. So if the account is no longer needed, neither are its
filter rules.

with regards

Paul


From jn.ml.clwm.729 at letterboxes.org  Thu Jan 18 19:28:18 2018
From: jn.ml.clwm.729 at letterboxes.org (Jeremy Nicoll)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 18:28:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3944] Failing IMAP account on startup
In-Reply-To: <20180118181930.4f79b6ba@kujata>
References: <bug-3944-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3944-595-NNIxMQyhBA@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <1516285853.3093567.1239815680.2A91558D@webmail.messagingengine.com>
 <20180118151700.49fbd792@kujata>
 <1516288880.3109276.1239876336.3178658B@webmail.messagingengine.com>
 <20180118153728.55175b17@kujata>
 <1516298158.3157180.1240070072.19D7C619@webmail.messagingengine.com>
 <20180118181930.4f79b6ba@kujata>
Message-ID: <1516300098.3167386.1240110848.5D6CEDE8@webmail.messagingengine.com>

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018, at 18:19, Paul wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 17:55:58 +0000
> Jeremy Nicoll <jn.ml.clwm.729 at letterboxes.org> wrote: 
> 
> > So in this case, the user might have had lots of definitions that 
> > would need recreated.
> 
> I doubt it. If they are assigned to an account they are for that
> account only. So if the account is no longer needed, neither are its
> filter rules.

But you suggested the user with the account that was getting
the funny message delete & redefine their account definition.

Had there been filters before for message traffic arriving at 
that account, surely the equivalent filters would still need to
be in place for the newly-defined account?

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From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Fri Jan 19 02:07:02 2018
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 17:07:02 -0800
Subject: [Users] Action: open HTML
Message-ID: <20180118170702.33f2e26f@frogguski.sritch.com>

CM 3.16.0

I'd like to be able open an html email chromium through a action,
that I can assign a shortcut to.

chromium %p&

The %p opens chromium, but it's the whole file including the headers,
the plain text and the html code.

I want to replicate the:

a > right click > open.

How do I get just the HTML part of the email. Right now I get:

> file:///home/froggy/.claws-mail/mimetmp/00000007.mimetmp

(I had elbowS surgerieS and I'm trying reduce the number of mouse
clicks)

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From cae at eslrahc.com  Fri Jan 19 04:37:01 2018
From: cae at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 22:37:01 -0500
Subject: [Users] Action: open HTML
In-Reply-To: <20180118170702.33f2e26f@frogguski.sritch.com>
References: <20180118170702.33f2e26f@frogguski.sritch.com>
Message-ID: <20180118223701.22a212f9@Boss1800.eslrahc.com>

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 17:07:02 -0800
sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:

> I'd like to be able open an html email chromium through a action,
> that I can assign a shortcut to.
> 
> chromium %p&
> 
> The %p opens chromium, but it's the whole file including the headers,
> the plain text and the html code.


The default, for multipart messages, is text view.

That can be changed in Configuration/Message view/Text options
Toggle the box for "Select the HTML part of multipart messages"
and apply the change.

"chromium %p&"  should now perform as you desire

( you really do not need to use "&", I tested on this system using 
"nightly %p" and it worked without issue.) 


    Charles

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From rsv869 at runbox.com  Fri Jan 19 14:46:06 2018
From: rsv869 at runbox.com (Reid Vail)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 08:46:06 -0500
Subject: [Users] Two IMAP accounts - received mail goes to just one
Message-ID: <20180119084606.1be4a6d1@pop-os>

Hello CLaw-mail team -

I'm running version 3.15.0-dirty.  I have two IMAP accounts and receive
mail on both but Claws is putting all received mail in just one of the
two. That is, if I get three messages via Gmail and two via Runbox, all
five appear in the Runbox inbox.

How can I trouble-shoot this?

Thx

Reid


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan 19 14:51:16 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:51:16 +0000
Subject: [Users] Two IMAP accounts - received mail goes to just one
In-Reply-To: <20180119084606.1be4a6d1@pop-os>
References: <20180119084606.1be4a6d1@pop-os>
Message-ID: <20180119135116.1d3d072f@kujata>

On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 08:46:06 -0500
Reid Vail <rsv869 at runbox.com> wrote: 

> I'm running version 3.15.0-dirty.  I have two IMAP accounts and
> receive mail on both but Claws is putting all received mail in just
> one of the two. That is, if I get three messages via Gmail and two
> via Runbox, all five appear in the Runbox inbox.
> 
> How can I trouble-shoot this?

Are you filtering messages?

Have a look at (or share) the network log and the filtering log.

with regards

Paul


From subscript at free.fr  Fri Jan 19 15:38:28 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 15:38:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] Two IMAP accounts - received mail goes to just one
In-Reply-To: <20180119084606.1be4a6d1@pop-os>
References: <20180119084606.1be4a6d1@pop-os>
Message-ID: <20180119153828.6c4d456d@ladybug>

Hello Reid,


On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 08:46:06 -0500 Reid Vail <rsv869 at runbox.com> wrote:

> Hello CLaw-mail team -
> 
> I'm running version 3.15.0-dirty.  I have two IMAP accounts and receive
> mail on both but Claws is putting all received mail in just one of the
> two. That is, if I get three messages via Gmail and two via Runbox, all
> five appear in the Runbox inbox.
> 
> How can I trouble-shoot this?

Can't reproduce here w/ a GMail and another IMAP account. Check your
filtering rules?


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From rsv869 at runbox.com  Fri Jan 19 19:11:28 2018
From: rsv869 at runbox.com (Reid Vail)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:11:28 -0500
Subject: [Users] Two IMAP accounts - received mail goes to just one
Message-ID: <20180119084606.1be4a6d1@pop-os>

Hello CLaw-mail team -

I'm running version 3.15.0-dirty.  I have two IMAP accounts and receive
mail on both but Claws is putting all received mail in just one of the
two. That is, if I get three messages via Gmail and two via Runbox, all
five appear in the Runbox inbox.

How can I trouble-shoot this?

Thx

Reid


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan 19 23:06:57 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 22:06:57 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3953] New: TSS handshake failure after updating from
 3.15 to 3.16
Message-ID: <bug-3953-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3953

            Bug ID: 3953
           Summary: TSS handshake failure after updating from 3.15 to 3.16
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 10
            Status: NEW
          Severity: blocker
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: oao at csi.com

After I upgraded from version 3.15 to 3.16, I can't connect to the server --
TSS handshake failure.

I can connect to it via another email program.

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You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jan 20 08:40:00 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 07:40:00 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3919] manual filtering does not move spam
In-Reply-To: <bug-3919-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3919-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3919-595-8ItxsnzWFN@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3919

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #8 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2018-01-18 21:15:06.695097503 +0100
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=6328a6be5e87b3ff6a974714b0e4ba881202002a
Merge: b18c96c 4302636
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Thu Jan 18 21:15:05 2018 +0100

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=4302636fb7a93c42287ffc9c37862bd21e29dc2c
Author: Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Thu Jan 18 21:13:46 2018 +0100

    Do not consider "mark_as_spam" as a final action, since it does not move
the marked message.

    Fixes Bug 3919 - manual filtering does not move spam

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From usenet at karmasailing.uk  Sat Jan 20 14:27:33 2018
From: usenet at karmasailing.uk (Bob Williams)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:27:33 +0000
Subject: [Users] Does CM strip signatures in replies?
Message-ID: <20180120132733.43d372cd@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>

I'm using Claws-Mail 3.16.0.

Does Claws-Mail strip signatures starting with '-- ' on the first line? If so, is there a setting somewhere to enable this behaviour?

Thanks

Bob
-- 
Bob Williams
   System:  Linux 4.4.104-39-default
   Distro:  openSUSE 42.3 (x86_64)
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From rsv869 at runbox.com  Sat Jan 20 15:41:02 2018
From: rsv869 at runbox.com (Reid Vail)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 09:41:02 -0500
Subject: [Users] Two IMAP accounts - received mail goes to just one -
 updated - no filtering
Message-ID: <20180120094102.35a1dc0b@pop-os>

Hello Claws team -

Thanks for the feedback. There are no filters in place.
Filter log file is disabled, probably because there are no filters.

suggestions welcome.

Reid



From bugs.michael at gmx.net  Sat Jan 20 15:54:51 2018
From: bugs.michael at gmx.net (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 15:54:51 +0100
Subject: [Users] Does CM strip signatures in replies?
In-Reply-To: <20180120132733.43d372cd@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
References: <20180120132733.43d372cd@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
Message-ID: <20180120155451.733463c2@noname>

On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:27:33 +0000, Bob Williams wrote:

> I'm using Claws-Mail 3.16.0.
> 
> Does Claws-Mail strip signatures starting with '-- ' on the first line? If so, is there a setting somewhere to enable this behaviour?
> 

Yes, you can open Preferences > Compose > Templates > Reply
and change the defaults.


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sat Jan 20 15:29:45 2018
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 14:29:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] Does CM strip signatures in replies?
In-Reply-To: <20180120132733.43d372cd@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
References: <20180120132733.43d372cd@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
Message-ID: <20180120142945.66d0f4bf@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:27:33 +0000
Bob Williams <usenet at karmasailing.uk> wrote:

Hello Bob,


>Does Claws-Mail strip signatures starting with '-- ' on the first line?

Only when replying to messages with the separator with following
proviso; highlighting the sig will quote it within your reply.

You can't turn off display of sigs in the message view.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
When I say ugly, I don't mean rough looking, I mean hideous
Ugly - The Stranglers
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From bugs.michael at gmx.net  Sat Jan 20 16:07:12 2018
From: bugs.michael at gmx.net (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 16:07:12 +0100
Subject: [Users] Two IMAP accounts - received mail goes to just one -
 updated - no filtering
In-Reply-To: <20180120094102.35a1dc0b@pop-os>
References: <20180120094102.35a1dc0b@pop-os>
Message-ID: <20180120160712.7c984e12@noname>

On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 09:41:02 -0500, Reid Vail wrote:

> Hello Claws team -
> 
> Thanks for the feedback. There are no filters in place.
> Filter log file is disabled, probably because there are no filters.
> 
> suggestions welcome.

My suggestion is to be more verbose with your description of what you see
on the screen and how you use Claws Mail. Do you see two separate folder
trees for your separate IMAP accounts? When you say "received mail", do
you refer to accessing those remote folders via IMAP, or do you transfer
messages to your local computer somehow? Your usage scenario is not clear
to me yet.

Multiple IMAP accounts work fine here, but I access the remote accounts
via IMAP, which means the messages remain on the remote IMAP server
(except for locally cached copies). When I browse "INBOX" for one IMAP
account, obviously I don't see the messages from the second account's
separate INBOX.

And when I poll the servers to download messages, I do that with an
external tools (fetchmail/procmail), which move and filter the messages
appropriately, but that has nothing to do with Claws Mail.


From usenet at karmasailing.uk  Sat Jan 20 16:44:30 2018
From: usenet at karmasailing.uk (Bob Williams)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 15:44:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] Does CM strip signatures in replies?
In-Reply-To: <20180120155451.733463c2@noname>
References: <20180120132733.43d372cd@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
 <20180120155451.733463c2@noname>
Message-ID: <20180120154430.159c00c0@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>

On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 15:54:51 +0100
Michael Schwendt <bugs.michael at gmx.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:27:33 +0000, Bob Williams wrote:
> 
> > I'm using Claws-Mail 3.16.0.
> > 
> > Does Claws-Mail strip signatures starting with '-- ' on the first
> > line? If so, is there a setting somewhere to enable this behaviour? 
> 
> Yes, you can open Preferences > Compose > Templates > Reply
> and change the defaults.
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

Excellent. Thank you. I hadn't thought to look in Templates.

-- 
Bob Williams
   System:  Linux 4.4.104-39-default
   Distro:  openSUSE 42.3 (x86_64)
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From usenet at karmasailing.uk  Sat Jan 20 16:46:24 2018
From: usenet at karmasailing.uk (Bob Williams)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 15:46:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] Does CM strip signatures in replies?
In-Reply-To: <20180120142945.66d0f4bf@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20180120132733.43d372cd@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
 <20180120142945.66d0f4bf@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20180120154624.127c1330@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>

On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 14:29:45 +0000
Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:27:33 +0000
> Bob Williams <usenet at karmasailing.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hello Bob,
> 
> 
> >Does Claws-Mail strip signatures starting with '-- ' on the first
> >line?  
> 
> Only when replying to messages with the separator with following
> proviso; highlighting the sig will quote it within your reply.
> 
> You can't turn off display of sigs in the message view.
> 

Thanks Brad. I meant when replying, should have been clearer.

-- 
Bob Williams
   System:  Linux 4.4.104-39-default
   Distro:  openSUSE 42.3 (x86_64)
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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sat Jan 20 16:54:17 2018
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 15:54:17 +0000
Subject: [Users] Does CM strip signatures in replies?
In-Reply-To: <20180120154624.127c1330@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
References: <20180120132733.43d372cd@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
 <20180120142945.66d0f4bf@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20180120154624.127c1330@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
Message-ID: <20180120155417.55b0447b@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 15:46:24 +0000
Bob Williams <usenet at karmasailing.uk> wrote:

Hello Bob,

>Thanks Brad. I meant when replying, should have been clearer.

NP.

I should have read the subject properly;  You mention replies
there.   :-)

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
I'd hate to look into those eyes and see an ounce of pain
Sweet Child O'Mine - Guns 'N' Roses
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From rsv869 at runbox.com  Sat Jan 20 18:17:26 2018
From: rsv869 at runbox.com (Reid Vail)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 12:17:26 -0500
Subject: [Users] Two IMAP accounts - received mail goes to just one -
 updated - no filtering
In-Reply-To: <20180120160712.7c984e12@noname>
References: <20180120094102.35a1dc0b@pop-os> <20180120160712.7c984e12@noname>
Message-ID: <20180120121726.56e5a322@pop-os>

On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 16:07:12 +0100
Michael Schwendt <bugs.michael at gmx.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 09:41:02 -0500, Reid Vail wrote:
> 
> > Hello Claws team -
> > 
> > Thanks for the feedback. There are no filters in place.
> > Filter log file is disabled, probably because there are no filters.
> > 
> > suggestions welcome.  
> 
> My suggestion is to be more verbose with your description of what you
> see on the screen and how you use Claws Mail. Do you see two separate
> folder trees for your separate IMAP accounts? When you say "received
> mail", do you refer to accessing those remote folders via IMAP, or do
> you transfer messages to your local computer somehow? Your usage
> scenario is not clear to me yet.
> 
> Multiple IMAP accounts work fine here, but I access the remote
> accounts via IMAP, which means the messages remain on the remote IMAP
> server (except for locally cached copies). When I browse "INBOX" for
> one IMAP account, obviously I don't see the messages from the second
> account's separate INBOX.
> 
> And when I poll the servers to download messages, I do that with an
> external tools (fetchmail/procmail), which move and filter the
> messages appropriately, but that has nothing to do with Claws Mail.
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

Hi and thanks for the reply,

I tried to keep it simple because my implementation and use are very
basic. That can be deceiving, too, I guess.

Yes I do have two folder trees.  One for Runbox, which is the default,
and a second shown below that for gmail. When I poll for new mail Claws
checks each separately.  Runbox first and then Gmail.

All the folders and messages in my Claws accounts are duplicates of
what is on the servers.

I access both accounts directly; no message transfer between accounts or
forwarding.  

Thx

Reid


From claws at slashproc.org  Sat Jan 20 18:27:15 2018
From: claws at slashproc.org (Manfred Schmitt)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 18:27:15 +0100
Subject: [Users] Two IMAP accounts - received mail goes to just one
In-Reply-To: <20180119084606.1be4a6d1@pop-os>
References: <20180119084606.1be4a6d1@pop-os>
Message-ID: <20180120182715.6b158790@e6520.bassdart.slashproc.org>

Reid Vail wrote:

> Hello CLaw-mail team -
> 
> I'm running version 3.15.0-dirty.  I have two IMAP accounts and receive
> mail on both but Claws is putting all received mail in just one of the
> two. That is, if I get three messages via Gmail and two via Runbox, all
> five appear in the Runbox inbox.
> 
> How can I trouble-shoot this?
> 
Maybe you have set the Inbox-Folder in the gmail Account Settings ->
Advanced (accidentally) to the wrong Inbox?

Bye,
Manne


From rsv869 at runbox.com  Sat Jan 20 18:38:36 2018
From: rsv869 at runbox.com (Reid Vail)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 12:38:36 -0500
Subject: [Users] Two IMAP accounts - received mail goes to just one
In-Reply-To: <20180120182715.6b158790@e6520.bassdart.slashproc.org>
References: <20180119084606.1be4a6d1@pop-os>
 <20180120182715.6b158790@e6520.bassdart.slashproc.org>
Message-ID: <20180120123836.6df9e644@pop-os>

On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 18:27:15 +0100
Manfred Schmitt <claws at slashproc.org> wrote:

> Reid Vail wrote:
> 
> > Hello CLaw-mail team -
> > 
> > I'm running version 3.15.0-dirty.  I have two IMAP accounts and
> > receive mail on both but Claws is putting all received mail in just
> > one of the two. That is, if I get three messages via Gmail and two
> > via Runbox, all five appear in the Runbox inbox.
> > 
> > How can I trouble-shoot this?
> >   
> Maybe you have set the Inbox-Folder in the gmail Account Settings ->
> Advanced (accidentally) to the wrong Inbox?
> 
> Bye,
> Manne
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

Thanks, but no luck... 

In this version anyway the Advanced page has no option for where to
place new messages; only Deleted, Queued, Sent and Draft.


From ticho at claws-mail.org  Sat Jan 20 18:39:43 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 18:39:43 +0100
Subject: [Users] Two IMAP accounts - received mail goes to just one
In-Reply-To: <20180119084606.1be4a6d1@pop-os>
References: <20180119084606.1be4a6d1@pop-os>
Message-ID: <20180120183943.433fe939@penny>

On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:11:28 -0500
Reid Vail <rsv869 at runbox.com> wrote:

> Hello CLaw-mail team -
> 
> I'm running version 3.15.0-dirty.  I have two IMAP accounts and receive
> mail on both but Claws is putting all received mail in just one of the
> two. That is, if I get three messages via Gmail and two via Runbox, all
> five appear in the Runbox inbox.

Maybe a stupid idea, but perhaps you have automatic mail forwarding
to your Runbox email address set up in your Gmail account?

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From claws at slashproc.org  Sat Jan 20 18:49:09 2018
From: claws at slashproc.org (Manfred Schmitt)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 18:49:09 +0100
Subject: [Users] Two IMAP accounts - received mail goes to just one
In-Reply-To: <20180120123836.6df9e644@pop-os>
References: <20180119084606.1be4a6d1@pop-os>
 <20180120182715.6b158790@e6520.bassdart.slashproc.org>
 <20180120123836.6df9e644@pop-os>
Message-ID: <20180120184909.14fbb0a0@e6520.bassdart.slashproc.org>

Reid Vail wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 18:27:15 +0100
> Manfred Schmitt <claws at slashproc.org> wrote:
> > >     
> > Maybe you have set the Inbox-Folder in the gmail Account Settings ->
> > Advanced (accidentally) to the wrong Inbox?
> >  
> 
> Thanks, but no luck... 
> 
> In this version anyway the Advanced page has no option for where to
> place new messages; only Deleted, Queued, Sent and Draft.
> _______________________________________________

You're right, looks the same here, my fault.

Bye,
Manne


From bugs.michael at gmx.net  Sat Jan 20 20:11:20 2018
From: bugs.michael at gmx.net (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 20:11:20 +0100
Subject: [Users] Two IMAP accounts - received mail goes to just one -
 updated - no filtering
In-Reply-To: <20180120121726.56e5a322@pop-os>
References: <20180120094102.35a1dc0b@pop-os> <20180120160712.7c984e12@noname>
 <20180120121726.56e5a322@pop-os>
Message-ID: <20180120201120.542313ef@noname>

On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 12:17:26 -0500, Reid Vail wrote:

> Yes I do have two folder trees.  One for Runbox, which is the default,
> and a second shown below that for gmail. When I poll for new mail Claws
> checks each separately.  Runbox first and then Gmail.

What happens if you _don't_ "poll", but browse the folders of one account's
INBOX without accessing the other account?

And with "poll", I assume you refer to using the "Get Mail" button?

> All the folders and messages in my Claws accounts are duplicates of
> what is on the servers.

Of course, and therefore accessing one IMAP server cannot show any
messages stored on the other IMAP server, unless you sync them somehow.


From rsv869 at runbox.com  Sat Jan 20 22:35:11 2018
From: rsv869 at runbox.com (Reid Vail)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 16:35:11 -0500
Subject: [Users] Two IMAP accounts - received mail goes to just one -
 Solved
In-Reply-To: <20180120201120.542313ef@noname>
References: <20180120094102.35a1dc0b@pop-os> <20180120160712.7c984e12@noname>
 <20180120121726.56e5a322@pop-os> <20180120201120.542313ef@noname>
Message-ID: <20180120163511.3b6ef8cf@pop-os>

On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 20:11:20 +0100
Michael Schwendt <bugs.michael at gmx.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 12:17:26 -0500, Reid Vail wrote:
> 
> > Yes I do have two folder trees.  One for Runbox, which is the
> > default, and a second shown below that for gmail. When I poll for
> > new mail Claws checks each separately.  Runbox first and then
> > Gmail.  
> 
> What happens if you _don't_ "poll", but browse the folders of one
> account's INBOX without accessing the other account?
> 
> And with "poll", I assume you refer to using the "Get Mail" button?
> 
> > All the folders and messages in my Claws accounts are duplicates of
> > what is on the servers.  
> 
> Of course, and therefore accessing one IMAP server cannot show any
> messages stored on the other IMAP server, unless you sync them
> somehow. _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

Hello Claws team 

Thanks for helping.  Got it solved.

There is a selectable item in both account's Receive config page. " 'Get
Mail' checks for mail in this account". It was selected for Runbox,
which is the first account an is the default, but not selected for
Gmail.

When I enable it for Gmail the issue goes away. 

Not sure why Claws is checking the Gmail account when it's not enabled,
and why it puts it in the wrong account, and maybe it points to a
different issue. 

Anyway...Regards,

Reid



From bugs.michael at gmx.net  Sat Jan 20 23:03:09 2018
From: bugs.michael at gmx.net (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 23:03:09 +0100
Subject: [Users] Two IMAP accounts - received mail goes to just one -
 Solved
In-Reply-To: <20180120163511.3b6ef8cf@pop-os>
References: <20180120094102.35a1dc0b@pop-os> <20180120160712.7c984e12@noname>
 <20180120121726.56e5a322@pop-os> <20180120201120.542313ef@noname>
 <20180120163511.3b6ef8cf@pop-os>
Message-ID: <20180120230309.17bc8b81@noname>

On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 16:35:11 -0500, Reid Vail wrote:

> Thanks for helping.  Got it solved.
> 
> There is a selectable item in both account's Receive config page. " 'Get
> Mail' checks for mail in this account". It was selected for Runbox,
> which is the first account an is the default, but not selected for
> Gmail.

Doubtful.

What that checkbox does is that it assigns an account to the "Get Mail"
button. If you don't mark that checkbox, the button does _nothing_.
You could still click the arrow right of the button and select an account
manually. Or you assign multiple accounts to check when clicking "Get Mail".

The alternative way how to assign accounts to the Get Mail button is
found directly on the first "Edit accounts" dialog in the "G" column.


From den_ml at posteo.de  Sun Jan 21 10:48:16 2018
From: den_ml at posteo.de (Denis)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:48:16 +0300
Subject: [Users] Date column misinterprets the date format
Message-ID: <20180121124816.675b0e74@manjaro>

Hi, everyone!

In Preferences -> Display -> Summaries there is an option "Date format" where you can set how the date will be formatted in the column "Date". I have it set to "%x(%a) %H:%M" (that is default, I think).

%x means locale's date representation. My locale default is yyyy-mm-dd, it can be seen when you type a command "date +%x" in console, the result is (for today) "2018-01-21".

But Claws Mail displays the "Date" column in "mm/dd/yyyy" format.

Now, I know that I can just change the option "%x" to "%F", but since "%x" is supposed to show the locale's date representation, I thought I should report it as a bug.

So before reporting it, I want to check out that I didn't miss anything.

-- 
Respectfully,
Denis Shadrin


From subscript at free.fr  Sun Jan 21 10:59:08 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 10:59:08 +0100
Subject: [Users] Date column misinterprets the date format
In-Reply-To: <20180121124816.675b0e74@manjaro>
References: <20180121124816.675b0e74@manjaro>
Message-ID: <20180121105908.54de3b7e@ladybug>

Hello Denis,


On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:48:16 +0300 Denis <den_ml at posteo.de> wrote:

> Hi, everyone!
> 
> In Preferences -> Display -> Summaries there is an option "Date format" where you can set how the date will be formatted in the column "Date". I have it set to "%x(%a) %H:%M" (that is default, I think).
> 
> %x means locale's date representation. My locale default is yyyy-mm-dd, it can be seen when you type a command "date +%x" in console, the result is (for today) "2018-01-21".
> 
> But Claws Mail displays the "Date" column in "mm/dd/yyyy" format.
> 
> Now, I know that I can just change the option "%x" to "%F", but since "%x" is supposed to show the locale's date representation, I thought I should report it as a bug.
> 
> So before reporting it, I want to check out that I didn't miss anything.

One explanation I'd see is that the locales are different in Claws Mail
and "elsewhere". What do you compare Claws Mail to? Locale in a
terminal? In other application launched the same was you launch Claws
Mail (i.e. from the desktop menu)? Having different locales (in
terminal vs desktop/"start menu" links) could be due to custom user
locale being set in ~/.bashrc or .profile, vs defaults set in /etc/.


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From den_ml at posteo.de  Sun Jan 21 11:26:41 2018
From: den_ml at posteo.de (Denis)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:26:41 +0300
Subject: [Users] Date column misinterprets the date format
In-Reply-To: <20180121105908.54de3b7e@ladybug>
References: <20180121124816.675b0e74@manjaro> <20180121105908.54de3b7e@ladybug>
Message-ID: <20180121132641.7bb2528e@manjaro>

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 10:59:08 +0100
wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:

> Hello Denis,
> 
> 
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:48:16 +0300 Denis <den_ml at posteo.de> wrote:
> 
> > Hi, everyone!
> > 
> > In Preferences -> Display -> Summaries there is an option "Date
> > format" where you can set how the date will be formatted in the
> > column "Date". I have it set to "%x(%a) %H:%M" (that is default, I
> > think).
> > 
> > %x means locale's date representation. My locale default is
> > yyyy-mm-dd, it can be seen when you type a command "date +%x" in
> > console, the result is (for today) "2018-01-21".
> > 
> > But Claws Mail displays the "Date" column in "mm/dd/yyyy" format.
> > 
> > Now, I know that I can just change the option "%x" to "%F", but
> > since "%x" is supposed to show the locale's date representation, I
> > thought I should report it as a bug.
> > 
> > So before reporting it, I want to check out that I didn't miss
> > anything.  
> 
> One explanation I'd see is that the locales are different in Claws
> Mail and "elsewhere". What do you compare Claws Mail to? Locale in a
> terminal? In other application launched the same was you launch Claws
> Mail (i.e. from the desktop menu)? Having different locales (in
> terminal vs desktop/"start menu" links) could be due to custom user
> locale being set in ~/.bashrc or .profile, vs defaults set in /etc/.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
Yes, I compared Claws Mail to "date +%x" command, and my LC_TIME is set in my .zshrc file since I didn't want to mess with system-wide settings. So I should set LC_TIME system-wide?

Is it only Claws Mail behaviour that it does not read settings exported from .zshrc (or .bashrc) or is it like this with all GUI programs?

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From subscript at free.fr  Sun Jan 21 12:16:28 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:16:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] Date column misinterprets the date format
In-Reply-To: <20180121132641.7bb2528e@manjaro>
References: <20180121124816.675b0e74@manjaro> <20180121105908.54de3b7e@ladybug>
 <20180121132641.7bb2528e@manjaro>
Message-ID: <20180121121628.785569da@ladybug>

Hello Denis,


On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:26:41 +0300 Denis <den_ml at posteo.de> wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 10:59:08 +0100
> wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:
> 
> > Hello Denis,
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:48:16 +0300 Denis <den_ml at posteo.de> wrote:
> >   
> > > Hi, everyone!
> > > 
> > > In Preferences -> Display -> Summaries there is an option "Date
> > > format" where you can set how the date will be formatted in the
> > > column "Date". I have it set to "%x(%a) %H:%M" (that is default, I
> > > think).
> > > 
> > > %x means locale's date representation. My locale default is
> > > yyyy-mm-dd, it can be seen when you type a command "date +%x" in
> > > console, the result is (for today) "2018-01-21".
> > > 
> > > But Claws Mail displays the "Date" column in "mm/dd/yyyy" format.
> > > 
> > > Now, I know that I can just change the option "%x" to "%F", but
> > > since "%x" is supposed to show the locale's date representation, I
> > > thought I should report it as a bug.
> > > 
> > > So before reporting it, I want to check out that I didn't miss
> > > anything.    
> > 
> > One explanation I'd see is that the locales are different in Claws
> > Mail and "elsewhere". What do you compare Claws Mail to? Locale in a
> > terminal? In other application launched the same was you launch Claws
> > Mail (i.e. from the desktop menu)? Having different locales (in
> > terminal vs desktop/"start menu" links) could be due to custom user
> > locale being set in ~/.bashrc or .profile, vs defaults set in /etc/.
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> >   
> Yes, I compared Claws Mail to "date +%x" command, and my LC_TIME is set in my .zshrc file since I didn't want to mess with system-wide settings. So I should set LC_TIME system-wide?

Or, you write a tiny script that only sets the locale and starts
claws-mail. You edit the desktop shortcut to fire that script instead
of the claws-mail binary.

 
> Is it only Claws Mail behaviour that it does not read settings exported from .zshrc (or .bashrc) or is it like this with all GUI programs?

You'll get the same behaviour w/ other apps launched from the desktop
shortcuts, the logics is simple.

Unless you edit system-wide settings OR you user's X or desktop session
script, I cannot guess what and where it is.
 

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From ticho at claws-mail.org  Sun Jan 21 12:18:15 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:18:15 +0100
Subject: [Users] Date column misinterprets the date format
In-Reply-To: <20180121132641.7bb2528e@manjaro>
References: <20180121124816.675b0e74@manjaro> <20180121105908.54de3b7e@ladybug>
 <20180121132641.7bb2528e@manjaro>
Message-ID: <20180121121815.4246000a@penny>

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:26:41 +0300
Denis <den_ml at posteo.de> wrote:

> Yes, I compared Claws Mail to "date +%x" command, and my LC_TIME is set in my .zshrc file since I didn't want to mess with system-wide settings. So I should set LC_TIME system-wide?
> 
> Is it only Claws Mail behaviour that it does not read settings exported from .zshrc (or .bashrc) or is it like this with all GUI programs?

Does it display correctly if you launch Claws Mail from a shell which
has LC_TIME set, e.g. from an xterm?

Regards,
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From den_ml at posteo.de  Sun Jan 21 12:39:33 2018
From: den_ml at posteo.de (Denis)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 14:39:33 +0300
Subject: [Users] Date column misinterprets the date format
In-Reply-To: <20180121121815.4246000a@penny>
References: <20180121124816.675b0e74@manjaro> <20180121105908.54de3b7e@ladybug>
 <20180121132641.7bb2528e@manjaro> <20180121121815.4246000a@penny>
Message-ID: <20180121143933.15470ecf@manjaro>

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:18:15 +0100
Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:26:41 +0300
> Denis <den_ml at posteo.de> wrote:
> 
> > Yes, I compared Claws Mail to "date +%x" command, and my LC_TIME is
> > set in my .zshrc file since I didn't want to mess with system-wide
> > settings. So I should set LC_TIME system-wide?
> > 
> > Is it only Claws Mail behaviour that it does not read settings
> > exported from .zshrc (or .bashrc) or is it like this with all GUI
> > programs?  
> 
> Does it display correctly if you launch Claws Mail from a shell which
> has LC_TIME set, e.g. from an xterm?
> 
> Regards,

I just checked out, and yes, it does display it correcrtly when launched from my login shell. And since wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote that this is the same behaviour w/ other apps launched from the desktop
shortcuts, I'm just going to adjust system-wide settings.

Thanks for the replies!

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From dave at howorth.org.uk  Sun Jan 21 12:47:17 2018
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 11:47:17 +0000
Subject: [Users] Date column misinterprets the date format
In-Reply-To: <20180121143933.15470ecf@manjaro>
References: <20180121124816.675b0e74@manjaro> <20180121105908.54de3b7e@ladybug>
 <20180121132641.7bb2528e@manjaro> <20180121121815.4246000a@penny>
 <20180121143933.15470ecf@manjaro>
Message-ID: <20180121114717.26e26e0f@acer-suse.lan>

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 14:39:33 +0300
Denis <den_ml at posteo.de> wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:18:15 +0100
> Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:26:41 +0300
> > Denis <den_ml at posteo.de> wrote:
> >   
> > > Yes, I compared Claws Mail to "date +%x" command, and my LC_TIME
> > > is set in my .zshrc file since I didn't want to mess with
> > > system-wide settings. So I should set LC_TIME system-wide?
> > > 
> > > Is it only Claws Mail behaviour that it does not read settings
> > > exported from .zshrc (or .bashrc) or is it like this with all GUI
> > > programs?    
> > 
> > Does it display correctly if you launch Claws Mail from a shell
> > which has LC_TIME set, e.g. from an xterm?
> > 
> > Regards,  
> 
> I just checked out, and yes, it does display it correcrtly when
> launched from my login shell. And since wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote
> that this is the same behaviour w/ other apps launched from the
> desktop shortcuts, I'm just going to adjust system-wide settings.

You shouldn't need to adjust system-wide settings. There should be a
place to configure the environment for the desktop for the user who is
logged in.

But if you're the only person that uses the machine, it won't matter.

> Thanks for the replies!
> 



From ticho at claws-mail.org  Sun Jan 21 13:15:30 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:15:30 +0100
Subject: [Users] Date column misinterprets the date format
In-Reply-To: <20180121143933.15470ecf@manjaro>
References: <20180121124816.675b0e74@manjaro> <20180121105908.54de3b7e@ladybug>
 <20180121132641.7bb2528e@manjaro> <20180121121815.4246000a@penny>
 <20180121143933.15470ecf@manjaro>
Message-ID: <20180121131530.5325130a@penny>

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 14:39:33 +0300
Denis <den_ml at posteo.de> wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:18:15 +0100
> Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:26:41 +0300
> > Denis <den_ml at posteo.de> wrote:
> >   
> > > Yes, I compared Claws Mail to "date +%x" command, and my LC_TIME is
> > > set in my .zshrc file since I didn't want to mess with system-wide
> > > settings. So I should set LC_TIME system-wide?
> > > 
> > > Is it only Claws Mail behaviour that it does not read settings
> > > exported from .zshrc (or .bashrc) or is it like this with all GUI
> > > programs?    
> > 
> > Does it display correctly if you launch Claws Mail from a shell which
> > has LC_TIME set, e.g. from an xterm?
> > 
> > Regards,  
> 
> I just checked out, and yes, it does display it correcrtly when launched from my login shell. And since wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote that this is the same behaviour w/ other apps launched from the desktop
> shortcuts, I'm just going to adjust system-wide settings.
> 
> Thanks for the replies!

This is because your window manager / desktop environment is not
zsh, nor does it use zsh to start itself, and therefore it does not
inherit settings in zsh's resource files.

You need either a wrapper script with zsh as interpreter (as wwp
suggested), or a different way to set up environment variables for your
login session.

If you go with the wrapper, I suggest putting your settings
into .zshenv, since .zshrc is only read for interactive shells.

Regards,
-- 
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 21 17:41:56 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 16:41:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3954] New: Next unread message function does not work
Message-ID: <bug-3954-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3954

            Bug ID: 3954
           Summary: Next unread message function does not work
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.15.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: NNTP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: codepen at regionet.pl

"Next unread message" function does not work in newsgroups folders, but in mail
folders it works very well.
Does not work menu "View-goto-next unrread message", same key shorcut "n" or
"space". Only the requester appears "No unread message found. Go to next
flolder?"
Fedora 27 claws-mail-3.15.1-1.fc27.x86_64

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 21 17:55:14 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 16:55:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3954] Next unread message function does not work
In-Reply-To: <bug-3954-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3954-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3954-595-ATAAy1FdQD@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3954

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
It works for me (using 3.16.0). Try 'Previous unread message'. If sorting from
top to bottom next goes downwards. If sorting from bottom to top next goes
upwards.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 21 18:15:34 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 17:15:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3954] Next unread message function does not work
In-Reply-To: <bug-3954-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3954-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3954-595-SOefKKA50G@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3954

--- Comment #2 from Pet <codepen at regionet.pl> ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> It works for me (using 3.16.0). Try 'Previous unread message'. If sorting
> from top to bottom next goes downwards. If sorting from bottom to top next
> goes upwards.

You're right, it depends on sorting now.
In the previous all versions (maybe 3.14 and earlier) it works regardless of
sorting. It's a shame.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 21 20:17:56 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 19:17:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3918] Claws presents 1y old certificate as new and
 asks for exchange
In-Reply-To: <bug-3918-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3918-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3918-595-MEOGQ8Xp7E@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3918

--- Comment #4 from codejodler at gmx.ch ---
Created attachment 1837
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Cert update request when receiving POP

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 21 20:18:36 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 19:18:36 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3918] Claws presents 1y old certificate as new and
 asks for exchange
In-Reply-To: <bug-3918-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3918-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3918-595-rfCwEvoT7O@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3918

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Cert update request when Sending POP

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 21 20:27:46 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 19:27:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3918] Claws presents 1y old certificate as new and
 asks for exchange
In-Reply-To: <bug-3918-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3918-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3918-595-Jp4089p6pP@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3918

--- Comment #6 from codejodler at gmx.ch ---
I agree it's a stalemate.

I got the same issue todasy and asked the provider again about it.

A couple of weeks ago, i asked Posteo if some weird type of man-in-the-middle
could be involved, but they can't imagine. 
Do you think there could be something like this going on ?

But i'm ok with closing the bug (for now).

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 21 20:54:22 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 19:54:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3918] Claws presents 1y old certificate as new and
 asks for exchange
In-Reply-To: <bug-3918-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3918-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3918-595-o5DvaOSrrK@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3918

--- Comment #7 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Your 2 latest screen shots don't show the same issue. They both look entirely
expected - posteo have replaced the cert that expires on 22-Jan-18 with a new
cert which expires on 22-Jan-19.

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From bvamundsen at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 21 22:15:46 2018
From: bvamundsen at yahoo.com (Brian)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:15:46 -0600
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail support for Oauth2 or how do you do it under
	Linux?
Message-ID: <20180121151546.4540b729@hicrest1.UGATE2>

So I have a couple of email service providers, gmail and yahoo, which
are pushing for me to remove my "allow less secure apps" setting and
get on the Oauth2 signin process.  I additionally need to figure out
out to get a Linux based Symantec VIP Access type service worknig for
signing in to my financial service.  But let stay with the email
providers.  Does Claws-mail have any development activity going towards
Oauth2 support like Seamonkey and Thunderbird integrate?  Or is there a
plugin to use with Claws-mail?

Or can someone give me an outline on how to implement Oauth2 globally
so that when an gmail or yahoo request I can respond and remove the
burden from Claws-mail?

I know Oauth and Oauth2 have been around for a decade or more and I
also know that two factor authentication is becoming more common as
ISP's are trying to fight off hackers.  So I figure I better figure
this out sooner than later.  

Cheers.  BrianA_MN


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 22 12:02:38 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:02:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3953] TSS handshake failure after updating from 3.15
	to 3.16
In-Reply-To: <bug-3953-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3953-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3953-595-rUB8lZNfck@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3953

--- Comment #1 from Tristan Miller <psychonaut at nothingisreal.com> ---
What's TSS?  Do you mean TLS?  If so, this is possibly a duplicate of Bug 3941.
 If you're using OpenSUSE, try switching your packages to the versions in the
server:/mail YaST repository.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 22 12:58:23 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:58:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3941] Connecting to IMAP server: SSL/TLS handshake
	failed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3941-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3941-595-YN9pI7TVqV@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3941

--- Comment #10 from Tristan Miller <psychonaut at nothingisreal.com> ---
No answer to my last comment, so I opened an openSUSE Tumbleweed bug myself:
<https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1077025>

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 25 16:39:32 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 15:39:32 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3955] New: add trust level to pgp info
Message-ID: <bug-3955-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3955

            Bug ID: 3955
           Summary: add trust level to pgp info
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.16.0
          Hardware: All
                OS: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Privacy/PGP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: mones at users.sourceforge.net

Quoting original submitter:

| when receiving a mail with a correct signature from an                        
| untrusted/unverified key in your keyring, claws-mail displays the text        
| 'Good signature from ...' next to a green padlock icon. This is very          
| misleading as it looks exactly as one would expect a correct signature        
| from a verified pgpkey should look.

A patch is also provided with a new classification suggestion, see:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=888292#5

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 25 16:39:56 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 15:39:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3955] add trust level to pgp info
In-Reply-To: <bug-3955-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3955-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3955-595-LB8jTKZfX6@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3955

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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                URL|                            |https://bugs.debian.org/888
                   |                            |292

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jan 27 14:39:01 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 13:39:01 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1692] Feature Request: Ability to display the remote
 IMAP root folder's total size
In-Reply-To: <bug-1692-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1692-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1692-595-8U2kCC8wB8@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1692

--- Comment #8 from Hanno Meyer-Thurow <h.mth at web.de> ---
Created attachment 1839
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1839&action=edit
backend: threaded query to quotaroot of libetpan

This patch adds the backend function imap_threaded_quotaroot to
src/etpan/imap-thread.[ch].

I will work on the frontend function, which belongs to src/imap.[ch] on my next
spare time, if noone else shows up first. If interested, check the capability
function and be a good copy-cat.

Feel free to modify and/or extend to your liking.

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From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Sat Jan 27 18:01:34 2018
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 18:01:34 +0100
Subject: [Users] Spellchecking doesn't work anymore
Message-ID: <20180127180134.01c067b8@utnubu>

"Ralf_Mardorf commented on 2018-01-27 16:53

For your very information

[rocketmouse at archlinux aur]$ pacman -Q enchant claws-mail-git

enchant 2.2.1-1

claws-mail-git 3.16.0.r24.g93eaaa941-1

I build claws-mail-git 3.16.0.r24.g93eaaa941-1 against enchant 2.2.1-1 and spell checking doesn't work anymore, while e.g. spell checking for

[rocketmouse at archlinux aur]$ pacman -Q evolution

evolution 3.26.4-2

still works.

I don't have time to write a bug report at the upstream bug tracker, but will forward it to the claws mailing list.

Perhaps the culprit is the same as for Xed:

"ion203 commented on 2018-01-27 01:47

Looks like /usr/bin/enchant was moved to /usr/bin/enchant-2 with 2.2.1 (https://www.archlinux.org/todo/enchant-221-rebuild/). I can just steal pluma's patch for the same issue." - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xed/"

- https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/claws-mail-git/#comment-630892



From den_ml at posteo.de  Sun Jan 28 08:07:03 2018
From: den_ml at posteo.de (Denis)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 10:07:03 +0300
Subject: [Users] Convenient way ofI browsing/viewing backuped messages?
Message-ID: <20180128100703.2b862f17@manjaro>

I have limited space in my account, so I want to backup my messages and then delete those older than a couple months from the account. I know how to make a backup - there is a plugin for Claws Mail, also I can manually copy the subdir I need from ~/.claws-mail/imapcache. But how do I then browse/view these messages?

Using a text editor is not really convenient because you get a block of service information (Return-Path, Received: from, and so on) and cannot see non-text attachments. Besides it would be convenient to browse these (backed up) messages in Claws Mail, like with the messages that are currently in your account, just in a different folder. So, anyone has done that? Do I need to create a separate offline account and somehow point Claws Mail to the folder with the backed up messages? Is there a standard/popular way of handling it?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 28 11:58:04 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 10:58:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1692] Feature Request: Ability to display the remote
 IMAP root folder's total size
In-Reply-To: <bug-1692-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1692-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1692-595-HCbe3DGK17@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1692

--- Comment #9 from Hanno Meyer-Thurow <h.mth at web.de> ---
Comment on attachment 1839
  --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1839
backend: threaded query to quotaroot of libetpan

+    if ((result.error == MAILIMAP_NO_ERROR) /* only testing no_error may leak?
*/
+        || (result.error == MAILIMAP_NO_ERROR_AUTHENTICATED)
+        || (result.error == MAILIMAP_NO_ERROR_NON_AUTHENTICATED))

Well, I guess I was overly eager. :-)
Simply testing for no_error seems enough.
Please remove no_error_* tests before applying.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 28 12:06:07 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 11:06:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1692] Feature Request: Ability to display the remote
 IMAP root folder's total size
In-Reply-To: <bug-1692-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1692-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1692-595-4CXJRq7riq@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1692

--- Comment #10 from Hanno Meyer-Thurow <h.mth at web.de> ---
Created attachment 1840
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1840&action=edit
frontend: query to quotaroot of folder

This patch adds the frontend function imap_folder_quotaroot to src/imap.[ch].

This function should be queried from UI. I will not work on the UI. This is up
to you guys to present the imap quota whereever you want it to appear.

Feel free to modify and/or extend to your liking. Like the function naming?
Maybe imap_get_quotaroot is better?

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 28 12:19:46 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 11:19:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] Convenient way ofI browsing/viewing backuped messages?
In-Reply-To: <20180128100703.2b862f17@manjaro>
References: <20180128100703.2b862f17@manjaro>
Message-ID: <20180128111946.47a1d3a4@kujata>

On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 10:07:03 +0300
Denis <den_ml at posteo.de> wrote: 

> I have limited space in my account, so I want to backup my messages
> and then delete those older than a couple months from the account.
> I know how to make a backup - there is a plugin for Claws Mail,
> also I can manually copy the subdir I need from
> ~/.claws-mail/imapcache. But how do I then browse/view these
> messages?
> 
> Using a text editor is not really convenient because you get a
> block of service information (Return-Path, Received: from, and so
> on) and cannot see non-text attachments. Besides it would be
> convenient to browse these (backed up) messages in Claws Mail, like
> with the messages that are currently in your account, just in a
> different folder. So, anyone has done that? Do I need to create a
> separate offline account and somehow point Claws Mail to the folder
> with the backed up messages? Is there a standard/popular way of
> handling it?

You don't need to create an offline account, but probably the easiest
way is to create an MH mailbox, (/File/Add mailbox/MH...) and then
copy the messages you want to backup to a folder in the MH mailbox,
and then delete them from your IMAP mailbox.

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 28 12:59:34 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 11:59:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1692] Feature Request: Ability to display the remote
 IMAP root folder's total size
In-Reply-To: <bug-1692-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1692-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1692-595-N1KvNL8iJY@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1692

--- Comment #11 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Looks nice so far. I'm thinking about how to present the size to the user.
Maybe an additional page in folder properties, where one could see the size,
and perhaps set some kind of warning threshold(s)?

We'll probably need to add new folder class function to get folder size, which
can also be implemented by other folder classes like MH or RSSyl.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 28 22:15:04 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 21:15:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1692] Feature Request: Ability to display the remote
 IMAP root folder's total size
In-Reply-To: <bug-1692-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1692-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1692-595-SK9VwDJgef@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1692

--- Comment #12 from Hanno Meyer-Thurow <h.mth at web.de> ---
I would concur with the initial reporter of this bugreport. Present it in the
status bar next to the currently selected account, and/or in the title bar
actually.

That is where I would look first and second for account quota. :-)

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From flyingrhino at orcon.net.nz  Mon Jan 29 01:46:54 2018
From: flyingrhino at orcon.net.nz (flyingrhino)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 13:46:54 +1300
Subject: [Users] Shortcut key to fancy render view for HTML messages
Message-ID: <20180129134654.3ee0d8e4@kenslpc>

Hi,

Is there a way to create a keyboard shortcut (if doesn't already exist) to display a message with fancy plugin HTML rendering?

By default claws 3.11.1 (latest version on the LM 17.3 repo) displays emails as text - which is great.
However, sometimes people send HTML messages which need to be rendered using fancy plugin.
I'm a big keyboard fan and navigate claws as much as possible using the keyboard.

Thanks,

-- 
Rhinos can fly,

It's just a case of mind over matter ...
... And you need a lot of mind to control that much matter ...



From pf at pfortin.com  Mon Jan 29 02:02:26 2018
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 20:02:26 -0500
Subject: [Users] Shortcut key to fancy render view for HTML messages
In-Reply-To: <20180129134654.3ee0d8e4@kenslpc>
References: <20180129134654.3ee0d8e4@kenslpc>
Message-ID: <20180128200226.38ff3ef1@pfortin.com>

On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 13:46:54 +1300 flyingrhino wrote:

>Is there a way to create a keyboard shortcut (if doesn't already exist) to display a message with fancy plugin HTML rendering?

The "a" key moves to the next part -- keep hitting it as required (it
wraps back to the first part).  The "z" key goes to the previous part;
but does not wrap to the last part.


From rhutter at posteo.de  Mon Jan 29 13:20:17 2018
From: rhutter at posteo.de (Ralf Hutter)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 13:20:17 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3950] New: marks all emails as "read"
In-Reply-To: <bug-3950-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3950-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20180129132017.73612555@Trisdesk>

This has happened to me about 3 times over the last 3 years. I use
Claws on 2 computers and believe it has not only happened on one
of them.
Anyone else?
Ralf

On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 22:00:22 +0000 noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:

> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3950
> 
>             Bug ID: 3950
>            Summary: marks all emails as "read"
>     Classification: Unclassified
>            Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
>            Version: 3.15.0
>           Hardware: PC
>                 OS: Windows 7
>             Status: NEW
>           Severity: normal
>           Priority: P3
>          Component: default
>           Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
>           Reporter: wazz at ellijay.com
> 
> Every now and then Claws marks all my emails in my main folder as
> "read".  It has happened with prior versions, and now with the 64bit
> version.
> 
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From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Mon Jan 29 21:48:30 2018
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 13:48:30 -0700
Subject: [Users] Tags in Quick Search: Bug??
In-Reply-To: <20180116091122.540d4f43@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
References: <20180115155529.068e775f@jhegaala.localdomain>
 <20180116093420.4d6a034f@ladybug>
 <20180116091122.540d4f43@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
Message-ID: <20180129134802.4bbe26f5@hawk.localdomain>

On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 09:11:22 +0000
Bob Williams <usenet at karmasailing.uk> wrote:

> Make sure your tags have no spaces in the tag name.

That makes a big difference. Thank you.

Would someone please be so kind as to add that to the documentation. Or
remove the necessity from the code.

-- 

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destroyed itself within. The essential causes of Rome's decline lay in
her people, her morals, her class struggle, her failing trade, her
bureaucratic despotism, her stifling taxes, her consuming wars.

-- Will and Ariel Durant, III The Story of Civilization (1944) epilogue


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 29 21:39:37 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 20:39:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3792] After moving emails,
	they remain in 'to be moved' state
In-Reply-To: <bug-3792-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3792-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3792-595-bNkcataACu@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3792

--- Comment #1 from Tristan Miller <psychonaut at nothingisreal.com> ---
I'm experiencing this as well.  Sometimes, when I move a message by dragging it
to another folder, the message stays in the original folder, but turns blue and
gets marked as "To be moved".  If I restart Claws Mail, the message is back to
the usual unmarked and coloured state, but still in the original folder.

Is this a problem with my IMAP server or with Claws Mail?  Unfortunately, the
problem started happening right after I upgraded both packages (from Claws Mail
3.15.1 to Claws Mail 3.16.0, and from Dovecot 2.2 to Dovecot 2.3.0).

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From ricardo at mones.org  Tue Jan 30 00:36:51 2018
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 00:36:51 +0100
Subject: [Users] Tags in Quick Search: Bug??
In-Reply-To: <20180129134802.4bbe26f5@hawk.localdomain>
References: <20180115155529.068e775f@jhegaala.localdomain>
 <20180116093420.4d6a034f@ladybug>
 <20180116091122.540d4f43@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
 <20180129134802.4bbe26f5@hawk.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20180129233651.vneiyszuylbl75gi@curuxu>

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 01:48:30PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 09:11:22 +0000
> Bob Williams <usenet at karmasailing.uk> wrote:
> 
> > Make sure your tags have no spaces in the tag name.
> 
> That makes a big difference. Thank you.
> 
> Would someone please be so kind as to add that to the documentation. Or
> remove the necessity from the code.

The attached patch seems to work fine for searching tags with spaces,
though you need to quote them in "", otherwise it would work as usually.

Of course this still needs to be documented somewhere :)

regards,
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From anmeyer at mailbox.org  Tue Jan 30 03:46:05 2018
From: anmeyer at mailbox.org (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 03:46:05 +0100
Subject: [Users] Can't decrypt my PGP-mail
Message-ID: <20180130034605.4428a486.anmeyer@mailbox.org>

Hello!

I just was sending an encrypted answer to an encrypted email I got
but when try to read the answer I sent one more time in the sent folder
I can't decrypt it.

What's wrong?

Kind regards

  Andreas

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From flyingrhino at orcon.net.nz  Tue Jan 30 03:59:28 2018
From: flyingrhino at orcon.net.nz (flyingrhino)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 15:59:28 +1300
Subject: [Users] Shortcut key to fancy render view for HTML messages
In-Reply-To: <20180129134654.3ee0d8e4@kenslpc>
References: <20180129134654.3ee0d8e4@kenslpc>
Message-ID: <20180130155928.6878f3da@kenslpc>

Hi,

Anyone have advice here?

Thanks.


On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 13:46:54 +1300
flyingrhino <flyingrhino at orcon.net.nz> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Is there a way to create a keyboard shortcut (if doesn't already exist) to display a message with fancy plugin HTML rendering?
> 
> By default claws 3.11.1 (latest version on the LM 17.3 repo) displays emails as text - which is great.
> However, sometimes people send HTML messages which need to be rendered using fancy plugin.
> I'm a big keyboard fan and navigate claws as much as possible using the keyboard.
> 
> Thanks,
> 



-- 
Rhinos can fly,

It's just a case of mind over matter ...
... And you need a lot of mind to control that much matter ...



From ticho at claws-mail.org  Tue Jan 30 04:44:22 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 04:44:22 +0100
Subject: [Users] Can't decrypt my PGP-mail
In-Reply-To: <20180130034605.4428a486.anmeyer@mailbox.org>
References: <20180130034605.4428a486.anmeyer@mailbox.org>
Message-ID: <20180130044413.1d42f893@penny>

On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 03:46:05 +0100
Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at mailbox.org> wrote:

> Hello!
> 
> I just was sending an encrypted answer to an encrypted email I got
> but when try to read the answer I sent one more time in the sent folder
> I can't decrypt it.
> 
> What's wrong?

Do you have "Encrypt sent messages with your own key in
addition to recipient's" checkbox enabled on Privacy page in account
preferences?

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From flyingrhino at orcon.net.nz  Tue Jan 30 05:51:02 2018
From: flyingrhino at orcon.net.nz (flyingrhino)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 17:51:02 +1300
Subject: [Users] Shortcut key to fancy render view for HTML messages
In-Reply-To: <20180129231357.12d4c69b@pfortin.com>
References: <20180129134654.3ee0d8e4@kenslpc> <20180130155928.6878f3da@kenslpc>
 <20180129231357.12d4c69b@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20180130175102.4a9c53d4@kenslpc>


The "a" key moves to the next part -- keep hitting it as required (it
wraps back to the first part).  The "z" key goes to the previous part;
but does not wrap to the last part.

> 
> Replied with this last night...  did you miss it?  Doesn't it help?
> 

My apologies, there was a lot of junk mail yesterday and I must have deleted your response with it.
Yes, your response is exactly what I've been looking for.
Thank you very much.

Now that I know what to look for - it does appear in the menus (View -> Go To -> Next part A / Previous part Z) , but the name "part" is not descriptive - especially since the column is named "MIME Type" if you expand it horizontally :(

Anyway problem solved !


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Tue Jan 30 06:00:46 2018
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 06:00:46 +0100
Subject: [Users] Shortcut key to fancy render view for HTML messages
In-Reply-To: <20180130155928.6878f3da@kenslpc>
References: <20180129134654.3ee0d8e4@kenslpc> <20180130155928.6878f3da@kenslpc>
Message-ID: <20180130060046.4a0e1652@utnubu>

Hi,

Linux Mint is based upon official ubuntu repositories. Claws mail as
well as the claws-mail-fancy-plugin and libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 are
from the official Ubuntu universe repository. The universe repository is
maintained by the community and insecure.

"Universe – Community-Maintained, Open-Source Software:

Licence: Open source
Updates: Canonical does not provide update.
Some updates may be provided by the Ubuntu community." -
https://askubuntu.com/questions/58364/whats-the-difference-between-multiverse-universe-restricted-and-main

Regarding webkit read
https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatanzaro/2016/02/01/on-webkit-security-updates/ .

To cut a long story short, official Arch Linux repositories don't
provide webkitgtk anymore and claws-mail from official Arch
repositories is build without the fancy plugin.

Better add an action to display HTML mails with a webbrowser. To some
extent automatically selecting HTML and displaying it as text does
work, too.

Regards,
Ralf



From flyingrhino at orcon.net.nz  Tue Jan 30 06:48:49 2018
From: flyingrhino at orcon.net.nz (flyingrhino)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 18:48:49 +1300
Subject: [Users] Shortcut key to fancy render view for HTML messages
In-Reply-To: <20180130060046.4a0e1652@utnubu>
References: <20180129134654.3ee0d8e4@kenslpc> <20180130155928.6878f3da@kenslpc>
 <20180130060046.4a0e1652@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20180130184849.7ab01db0@kenslpc>

On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 06:00:46 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <silver.bullet at zoho.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Linux Mint is based upon official ubuntu repositories. Claws mail as
> well as the claws-mail-fancy-plugin and libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 are
> from the official Ubuntu universe repository. The universe repository is
> maintained by the community and insecure.
> 
> "Universe – Community-Maintained, Open-Source Software:
> 
> Licence: Open source
> Updates: Canonical does not provide update.
> Some updates may be provided by the Ubuntu community." -
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/58364/whats-the-difference-between-multiverse-universe-restricted-and-main
> 
> Regarding webkit read
> https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatanzaro/2016/02/01/on-webkit-security-updates/ .
> 
> To cut a long story short, official Arch Linux repositories don't
> provide webkitgtk anymore and claws-mail from official Arch
> repositories is build without the fancy plugin.
> 
> Better add an action to display HTML mails with a webbrowser. To some
> extent automatically selecting HTML and displaying it as text does
> work, too.
> 
> Regards,
> Ralf
> 
> ___

This is a very important post ! Thanks.

If fancy is undermined due to inconsistent/aged libwebkitgtk , should claws even support fancy any more? 
As much as we appreciate the hard work by the fancy developers, the software is only as secure as the libraries it relies upon.

I always default to the text rendered version of mails (due to speed and reduce clutter), but sometimes the sender sends important stuff hidden within html so displaying html is unfortunately sometimes required.
Keeping the display fully within claws avoids switching programs and is all driven from within the same working environment. Is there some way of using an external browser to do the rendering and feeding it into the claws message frame?


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Tue Jan 30 08:29:00 2018
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 08:29:00 +0100
Subject: [Users] Shortcut key to fancy render view for HTML messages
In-Reply-To: <20180130184849.7ab01db0@kenslpc>
References: <20180129134654.3ee0d8e4@kenslpc> <20180130155928.6878f3da@kenslpc>
 <20180130060046.4a0e1652@utnubu> <20180130184849.7ab01db0@kenslpc>
Message-ID: <20180130082900.08be5c62@utnubu>

On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 18:48:49 +1300, flyingrhino wrote:
>sometimes the sender sends important stuff hidden within html so
>displaying html is unfortunately sometimes required

Let alone that they often send HTML mails with remote content, while
the multipart plain text might contain a link, the plain text part might
be not the same as the HTML part and sometimes represent outdated
information that is diffeerent from the HTML part's information of the
mail. This could happen, even if this conflicting information is not
part of the remote content. IOW your business partner might provide
contrary information by the plain text and HTML source of a
multipart mail, while most of us tend to rely on this informaton,
instead of trying to understand the long attached PDFs with general
business terms and simlar content.



From den_ml at posteo.de  Tue Jan 30 08:34:08 2018
From: den_ml at posteo.de (Denis)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 10:34:08 +0300
Subject: [Users] Convenient way ofI browsing/viewing backuped messages?
In-Reply-To: <20180128111946.47a1d3a4@kujata>
References: <20180128100703.2b862f17@manjaro> <20180128111946.47a1d3a4@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180130103408.343d8681@manjaro>

On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 11:19:46 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 10:07:03 +0300
> Denis <den_ml at posteo.de> wrote: 
> 
> > I have limited space in my account, so I want to backup my messages
> > and then delete those older than a couple months from the account.
> > I know how to make a backup - there is a plugin for Claws Mail,
> > also I can manually copy the subdir I need from
> > ~/.claws-mail/imapcache. But how do I then browse/view these
> > messages?
> > 
> > Using a text editor is not really convenient because you get a
> > block of service information (Return-Path, Received: from, and so
> > on) and cannot see non-text attachments. Besides it would be
> > convenient to browse these (backed up) messages in Claws Mail, like
> > with the messages that are currently in your account, just in a
> > different folder. So, anyone has done that? Do I need to create a
> > separate offline account and somehow point Claws Mail to the folder
> > with the backed up messages? Is there a standard/popular way of
> > handling it?  
> 
> You don't need to create an offline account, but probably the easiest
> way is to create an MH mailbox, (/File/Add mailbox/MH...) and then
> copy the messages you want to backup to a folder in the MH mailbox,
> and then delete them from your IMAP mailbox.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

Thanks!

But does this work only with copying messages from within Claws Mail? When I try copying message files with file manager, Claws Mail does not see them in the corresponding folder of the new MH mailbox. I'm asking just in case, copying messages with a file manager may sometime come in handy.

-- 
Respectfully,
Denis Shadrin


From flyingrhino at orcon.net.nz  Tue Jan 30 09:24:41 2018
From: flyingrhino at orcon.net.nz (flyingrhino)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 21:24:41 +1300
Subject: [Users] Shortcut key to fancy render view for HTML messages
In-Reply-To: <20180130082900.08be5c62@utnubu>
References: <20180129134654.3ee0d8e4@kenslpc>
 <20180130155928.6878f3da@kenslpc> <20180130060046.4a0e1652@utnubu>
 <20180130184849.7ab01db0@kenslpc> <20180130082900.08be5c62@utnubu>
Message-ID: <8a863987fa5763468df4637c2f67a983@webmail.orcon.net.nz>

On 2018-01-30 20:29, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 18:48:49 +1300, flyingrhino wrote:
>> sometimes the sender sends important stuff hidden within html so
>> displaying html is unfortunately sometimes required
> 
> Let alone that they often send HTML mails with remote content, while
> the multipart plain text might contain a link, the plain text part 
> might
> be not the same as the HTML part and sometimes represent outdated
> information that is diffeerent from the HTML part's information of the
> mail. This could happen, even if this conflicting information is not
> part of the remote content. IOW your business partner might provide
> contrary information by the plain text and HTML source of a
> multipart mail, while most of us tend to rely on this informaton,
> instead of trying to understand the long attached PDFs with general
> business terms and simlar content.
> 

Don't get me started about remote content!
Hotels, car rental agencies, even travel agents are notorious for 
sending evil remote content.
It's not prevalent in the business circle I work in, but definitely 
travel services are some of the worst offenders.

I get the almost empty text message (in claws main mail frame), and only 
when I switch to fancy, I see all the information they sent.
And you have no trace of it because if the HTML source goes down, the 
content is lost.
And over time some of the links and images change/disappear and the mail 
starts to dilute.

Really sucks.





From anmeyer at mailbox.org  Tue Jan 30 09:50:01 2018
From: anmeyer at mailbox.org (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 09:50:01 +0100
Subject: [Users] Can't decrypt my PGP-mail
In-Reply-To: <20180130044413.1d42f893@penny>
References: <20180130034605.4428a486.anmeyer@mailbox.org>
 <20180130044413.1d42f893@penny>
Message-ID: <20180130095001.2c33610c.anmeyer@mailbox.org>

Hello!

Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org> schrieb am 30.01.18 um 04:44:22 Uhr:

> On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 03:46:05 +0100
> Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at mailbox.org> wrote:
> 
> > Hello!
> > 
> > I just was sending an encrypted answer to an encrypted email I got
> > but when try to read the answer I sent one more time in the sent folder
> > I can't decrypt it.
> > 
> > What's wrong?  
> 
> Do you have "Encrypt sent messages with your own key in
> addition to recipient's" checkbox enabled on Privacy page in account
> preferences?

No, this is not enabled. I remembeer the email I got from the partner was
encrypted with another key than the emailaddress it was sent to finally.
Maybe this has something to do with it?

Kind regards

  Andreas
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 30 00:03:45 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 23:03:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3792] After moving emails,
	they remain in 'to be moved' state
In-Reply-To: <bug-3792-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3792-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3792-595-RO6ypKyqJ2@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3792

--- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
It could be Dovecot 2.3. I'm using Dovecot 2.2.29.1 and daily move IMAP
messages around in Claws Mail, without any issues.

It would be interesting to see what the IMAP network log says. Also, the debug
output - run claws-mail with --debug option from terminal, and record the
complete output from when this bug happens to you.

-- 
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You are the assignee for the bug.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 30 00:59:54 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 23:59:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3792] After moving emails,
	they remain in 'to be moved' state
In-Reply-To: <bug-3792-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3792-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3792-595-iCbGluGC54@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3792

--- Comment #3 from Kasper Peeters <kasper.peeters at phi-sci.com> ---
No, it's not Dovecot; I am on 2.2.29 and have had this on earlier versions too. 

Something similar happens when I disconnect the network, then delete a message.
Claws will spin for a while, then give up and turn the message blue (same thing
happens if I click 'stop all'). When I stop and restart claws, the message is
black again.

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 30 10:17:09 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 09:17:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] Convenient way ofI browsing/viewing backuped messages?
In-Reply-To: <20180130103408.343d8681@manjaro>
References: <20180128100703.2b862f17@manjaro> <20180128111946.47a1d3a4@kujata>
 <20180130103408.343d8681@manjaro>
Message-ID: <20180130091709.0e4e8eb9@kujata>

On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 10:34:08 +0300
Denis <den_ml at posteo.de> wrote: 

> But does this work only with copying messages from within Claws
> Mail? When I try copying message files with file manager, Claws
> Mail does not see them in the corresponding folder of the new MH
> mailbox. I'm asking just in case, copying messages with a file
> manager may sometime come in handy.

Yes, I was talking about copying within claws-mail. You can also do
it with the file manager. If you move them with the file manager and
claws-mail does not see them, (which never has been the case for me),
you can right-click the top-level MH mailbox folder and choose 'check
for new messages'. (There are also 'check for new folders' and
'rebuild folder tree', if ever you need them.)

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 30 10:22:55 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 09:22:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] Shortcut key to fancy render view for HTML messages
In-Reply-To: <20180130184849.7ab01db0@kenslpc>
References: <20180129134654.3ee0d8e4@kenslpc> <20180130155928.6878f3da@kenslpc>
 <20180130060046.4a0e1652@utnubu> <20180130184849.7ab01db0@kenslpc>
Message-ID: <20180130092255.4a20e3fc@kujata>

On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 18:48:49 +1300
flyingrhino <flyingrhino at orcon.net.nz> wrote: 

> If fancy is undermined due to inconsistent/aged libwebkitgtk ,
> should claws even support fancy any more?

I believe that using the Fancy plugin with its default settings -
blocking remote content, blocking javascript, etc - is safe.
Potentially a lot safer, I would say, then simply opening the html
part in a browser, as was suggested here.

with regards

Paul


From edodd55 at gmail.com  Tue Jan 30 10:56:34 2018
From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 20:56:34 +1100
Subject: [Users] Shortcut key to fancy render view for HTML messages
In-Reply-To: <20180130082900.08be5c62@utnubu>
References: <20180129134654.3ee0d8e4@kenslpc> <20180130155928.6878f3da@kenslpc>
 <20180130060046.4a0e1652@utnubu> <20180130184849.7ab01db0@kenslpc>
 <20180130082900.08be5c62@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20180130205634.5fd8c074.edodd55@gmail.com>

On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 08:29:00 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <silver.bullet at zoho.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 18:48:49 +1300, flyingrhino wrote:
> >sometimes the sender sends important stuff hidden within html so
> >displaying html is unfortunately sometimes required  
> 
> Let alone that they often send HTML mails with remote content, while
> the multipart plain text might contain a link, the plain text part
> might be not the same as the HTML part and sometimes represent
> outdated information that is diffeerent from the HTML part's
> information of the mail. This could happen, even if this conflicting
> information is not part of the remote content. IOW your business
> partner might provide contrary information by the plain text and HTML
> source of a multipart mail, while most of us tend to rely on this
> informaton, instead of trying to understand the long attached PDFs
> with general business terms and simlar content.
> 

I concur...
I got several emails advertising the same webinar, months after the
date.
Eventually I realised that the html content was for new webinars, and
someone was too lazy to write a decent email.


Liz


From ticho at claws-mail.org  Tue Jan 30 11:25:52 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 11:25:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] Testing Windows version with newer Webkit
Message-ID: <20180130112552.4f0e0518@penny>

Hello all,

I have finally managed to make a newer Webkit version compile for
Windows, and so I have prepared Windows packages for testing. I would
appreciate if someone can give it a go.

It is basically 3.16.0-1 release, with nothing else changed but
WebkitGTK library, which has been updated from 2.3.5a to 2.4.11 - the
latest version which still had support for webkit1 API, as well as
GTK+2.

Hopefully this will fix at least some of the HTML-mail-related crashes
that have been reported.

The installer packages are available at
http://claws-mail.org/win32/test/newwebkit/

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Tue Jan 30 13:49:41 2018
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 12:49:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] Can't decrypt my PGP-mail
In-Reply-To: <20180130095001.2c33610c.anmeyer@mailbox.org>
References: <20180130034605.4428a486.anmeyer@mailbox.org>
 <20180130044413.1d42f893@penny>
 <20180130095001.2c33610c.anmeyer@mailbox.org>
Message-ID: <20180130124941.00005bd9@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 09:50:01 +0100
Andreas Meyer wrote:

> Hello!
> 
> Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org> schrieb am 30.01.18 um 04:44:22
> Uhr:
> 
> > On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 03:46:05 +0100
> > Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at mailbox.org> wrote:
> >   
> > > Hello!
> > > 
> > > I just was sending an encrypted answer to an encrypted email I got
> > > but when try to read the answer I sent one more time in the sent
> > > folder I can't decrypt it.
> > > 
> > > What's wrong?    
> > 
> > Do you have "Encrypt sent messages with your own key in
> > addition to recipient's" checkbox enabled on Privacy page in account
> > preferences?  
> 
> No, this is not enabled. I remembeer the email I got from the partner
> was encrypted with another key than the emailaddress it was sent to
> finally. Maybe this has something to do with it?

You will only be able to decrypt messages where the relevant private
key is in your key ring, so I doubt it would affect things.

It's perfectly fine to encrypt to yourself provided that you can accept
the additional security effects of doing so. It's not a good idea if
you *really* only want the addressee (or more accurately the key owner)
to be able to decrypt it.

-- 

Brian Morrison


From anmeyer at mailbox.org  Tue Jan 30 16:11:22 2018
From: anmeyer at mailbox.org (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 16:11:22 +0100
Subject: [Users] Can't decrypt my PGP-mail
In-Reply-To: <20180130124941.00005bd9@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20180130034605.4428a486.anmeyer@mailbox.org>
 <20180130044413.1d42f893@penny>
 <20180130095001.2c33610c.anmeyer@mailbox.org>
 <20180130124941.00005bd9@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20180130161122.572a9bcd.anmeyer@mailbox.org>

Hello!

Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> schrieb am 30.01.18 um 12:49:41 Uhr:

> On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 09:50:01 +0100
> Andreas Meyer wrote:
> 
> > Hello!
> > 
> > Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org> schrieb am 30.01.18 um 04:44:22
> > Uhr:
> >   
> > > On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 03:46:05 +0100
> > > Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at mailbox.org> wrote:
> > >     
> > > > Hello!
> > > > 
> > > > I just was sending an encrypted answer to an encrypted email I got
> > > > but when try to read the answer I sent one more time in the sent
> > > > folder I can't decrypt it.
> > > > 
> > > > What's wrong?      
> > > 
> > > Do you have "Encrypt sent messages with your own key in
> > > addition to recipient's" checkbox enabled on Privacy page in account
> > > preferences?    
> > 
> > No, this is not enabled. I remembeer the email I got from the partner
> > was encrypted with another key than the emailaddress it was sent to
> > finally. Maybe this has something to do with it?  
> 
> You will only be able to decrypt messages where the relevant private
> key is in your key ring, so I doubt it would affect things.
> 
> It's perfectly fine to encrypt to yourself provided that you can accept
> the additional security effects of doing so. It's not a good idea if
> you *really* only want the addressee (or more accurately the key owner)
> to be able to decrypt it.


I don't understand, what's going on. I answer to an email with an encrypted
email. This encrypted email I sent is stored in the Sent-folder.

Now I want to review this encrypted email I sent and can't decrypt, open
and view it.

I understand is encrypted with the public key. Do you say if i had encrypted
it with my own key additionally, I would be able to open and review it?

Kind regards

  Andreas

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 30 16:23:08 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 15:23:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] Can't decrypt my PGP-mail
In-Reply-To: <20180130161122.572a9bcd.anmeyer@mailbox.org>
References: <20180130034605.4428a486.anmeyer@mailbox.org>
 <20180130044413.1d42f893@penny>
 <20180130095001.2c33610c.anmeyer@mailbox.org>
 <20180130124941.00005bd9@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20180130161122.572a9bcd.anmeyer@mailbox.org>
Message-ID: <20180130152308.3cd25d7f@kujata>

On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 16:11:22 +0100
Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at mailbox.org> wrote: 

> I understand is encrypted with the public key. Do you say if i had
> encrypted it with my own key additionally, I would be able to open
> and review it?

Yes.

with regards

Paul


From usenet at karmasailing.uk  Tue Jan 30 16:29:09 2018
From: usenet at karmasailing.uk (Bob Williams)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 15:29:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] Can't decrypt my PGP-mail
In-Reply-To: <20180130161122.572a9bcd.anmeyer@mailbox.org>
References: <20180130034605.4428a486.anmeyer@mailbox.org>
 <20180130044413.1d42f893@penny>
 <20180130095001.2c33610c.anmeyer@mailbox.org>
 <20180130124941.00005bd9@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20180130161122.572a9bcd.anmeyer@mailbox.org>
Message-ID: <20180130152909.57bd88ec@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>

On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 16:11:22 +0100
Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at mailbox.org> wrote:

> Hello!
> 
> Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> schrieb am 30.01.18 um 12:49:41
> Uhr:
> 
> > On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 09:50:01 +0100
> > Andreas Meyer wrote:
> >   
> > > Hello!
> > > 
> > > Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org> schrieb am 30.01.18 um
> > > 04:44:22 Uhr:
> > >     
> > > > On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 03:46:05 +0100
> > > > Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at mailbox.org> wrote:
> > > >       
> > > > > Hello!
> > > > > 
> > > > > I just was sending an encrypted answer to an encrypted email
> > > > > I got but when try to read the answer I sent one more time in
> > > > > the sent folder I can't decrypt it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What's wrong?        
> > > > 
> > > > Do you have "Encrypt sent messages with your own key in
> > > > addition to recipient's" checkbox enabled on Privacy page in
> > > > account preferences?      
> > > 
> > > No, this is not enabled. I remembeer the email I got from the
> > > partner was encrypted with another key than the emailaddress it
> > > was sent to finally. Maybe this has something to do with it?    
> > 
> > You will only be able to decrypt messages where the relevant private
> > key is in your key ring, so I doubt it would affect things.
> > 
> > It's perfectly fine to encrypt to yourself provided that you can
> > accept the additional security effects of doing so. It's not a good
> > idea if you *really* only want the addressee (or more accurately
> > the key owner) to be able to decrypt it.  
> 
> 
> I don't understand, what's going on. I answer to an email with an
> encrypted email. This encrypted email I sent is stored in the
> Sent-folder.
> 
> Now I want to review this encrypted email I sent and can't decrypt,
> open and view it.
> 
> I understand is encrypted with the public key. Do you say if i had
> encrypted it with my own key additionally, I would be able to open
> and review it?
> 
> Kind regards
> 
>   Andreas
> 

You encrypted with the other person's public key. Only that person's private key can decrypt that message, including the copy in your Sent mail folder. By encrypting with your own public key, as well as the other person's public key, both of you can decrypt the message, each using their own private key.

Some background reading here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy

Bob
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Tue Jan 30 17:22:28 2018
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 16:22:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] Testing Windows version with newer Webkit
In-Reply-To: <20180130112552.4f0e0518@penny>
References: <20180130112552.4f0e0518@penny>
Message-ID: <20180130162228.00004a36@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 11:25:52 +0100
Andrej Kacian wrote:

> The installer packages are available at
> http://claws-mail.org/win32/test/newwebkit/

Have installed this, will report on any problems if they seem serious.

Looking at the About tabs there is nothing to show the updated
webkitgtk version, so I hope it is the updated version :)


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From anmeyer at mailbox.org  Tue Jan 30 17:36:12 2018
From: anmeyer at mailbox.org (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 17:36:12 +0100
Subject: [Users] Can't decrypt my PGP-mail
In-Reply-To: <20180130152909.57bd88ec@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
References: <20180130034605.4428a486.anmeyer@mailbox.org>
 <20180130044413.1d42f893@penny>
 <20180130095001.2c33610c.anmeyer@mailbox.org>
 <20180130124941.00005bd9@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20180130161122.572a9bcd.anmeyer@mailbox.org>
 <20180130152909.57bd88ec@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
Message-ID: <20180130173612.7be5bea7.anmeyer@mailbox.org>

Bob Williams <usenet at karmasailing.uk> schrieb am 30.01.18 um 15:29:09 Uhr:

> > I understand is encrypted with the public key. Do you say if i had
> > encrypted it with my own key additionally, I would be able to open
> > and review it?

> You encrypted with the other person's public key. Only that person's private key can decrypt that message, including the copy in your Sent mail folder. By encrypting with your own public key, as well as the other person's public key, both of you can decrypt the message, each using their own private key.
> 
> Some background reading here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy

Thank you Guys! Another step understanding PGP.

  Andreas

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From ticho at claws-mail.org  Tue Jan 30 19:28:18 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 19:28:18 +0100
Subject: [Users] Testing Windows version with newer Webkit
In-Reply-To: <20180130162228.00004a36@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20180130112552.4f0e0518@penny>
 <20180130162228.00004a36@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20180130192818.1576ff88@penny>

On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 16:22:28 +0000
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 11:25:52 +0100
> Andrej Kacian wrote:
> 
> > The installer packages are available at
> > http://claws-mail.org/win32/test/newwebkit/  
> 
> Have installed this, will report on any problems if they seem serious.
> 
> Looking at the About tabs there is nothing to show the updated
> webkitgtk version, so I hope it is the updated version :)

It is an external DLL file, and Webkit's API does not seem to provide a
way to query its version, so you'll just have to trust me here. Or
build it yourself, of course - there's always that. :)

It would probably be enough to just take the webkit DLL from these
packages and replace it in any previous Claws Mail installation.

Regards,
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From ticho at claws-mail.org  Tue Jan 30 21:17:21 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 21:17:21 +0100
Subject: [Users] Shortcut key to fancy render view for HTML messages
In-Reply-To: <20180130184849.7ab01db0@kenslpc>
References: <20180129134654.3ee0d8e4@kenslpc> <20180130155928.6878f3da@kenslpc>
 <20180130060046.4a0e1652@utnubu> <20180130184849.7ab01db0@kenslpc>
Message-ID: <20180130211721.551b9f9a@penny>

On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 18:48:49 +1300
flyingrhino <flyingrhino at orcon.net.nz> wrote:

> If fancy is undermined due to inconsistent/aged libwebkitgtk , should
> claws even support fancy any more? As much as we appreciate the hard
> work by the fancy developers, the software is only as secure as the
> libraries it relies upon.

It is an optional plugin. Once its downside (being insecure) outweighs
its usefulness, you can unload and never use it again.

We will likely continue to include it in Claws Mail releases for the
foreseeable future, even though most Linux distributions will remove
it from their packages. At most, I can see us adding a warning dialog
upon loading the plugin, informing the user about the issue.

Regards,

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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Tue Jan 30 23:26:07 2018
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 22:26:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] Testing Windows version with newer Webkit
In-Reply-To: <20180130192818.1576ff88@penny>
References: <20180130112552.4f0e0518@penny>
 <20180130162228.00004a36@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20180130192818.1576ff88@penny>
Message-ID: <20180130222607.00003698@prost.fenrir.org.uk>

On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 19:28:18 +0100
Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 16:22:28 +0000
> Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 11:25:52 +0100
> > Andrej Kacian wrote:
> >   
> > > The installer packages are available at
> > > http://claws-mail.org/win32/test/newwebkit/    
> > 
> > Have installed this, will report on any problems if they seem
> > serious.
> > 
> > Looking at the About tabs there is nothing to show the updated
> > webkitgtk version, so I hope it is the updated version :)  
> 
> It is an external DLL file, and Webkit's API does not seem to provide
> a way to query its version, so you'll just have to trust me here. Or
> build it yourself, of course - there's always that. :)
> 
> It would probably be enough to just take the webkit DLL from these
> packages and replace it in any previous Claws Mail installation.
>

What's the difference between this and the 3.16.0-2 version in the test
directory?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 30 21:40:39 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 20:40:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3956] New: Please allow a folder to be emptied for
 folders such as 'Junk'
Message-ID: <bug-3956-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3956

            Bug ID: 3956
           Summary: Please allow a folder to be emptied for folders such
                    as 'Junk'
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.16.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Folder List
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: will.brokenbourgh2877 at gmail.com

When a folder is right-clicked and 'Properties' -> 'General' -> 'Folder Type'
is chosen, in addition to 'Normal', 'Trash', 'Queue', etc, I think there needs
to be a folder type of 'Junk'.  

I'm asking for this so that it can be emptied like the Trash folder, instead of
having to Select All and Deleting.

If a 'Junk' folder type is too specific, maybe you could add a check-box to the
general folder properties called 'Can be emptied' or something similar.

Thank you! :-)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jan 31 00:02:11 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 23:02:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3956] Please allow a folder to be emptied for folders
 such as 'Junk'
In-Reply-To: <bug-3956-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3956-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3956-595-5auHfdSm8w@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3956

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
You can make your Junk folder a sub-folder of the Trash folder and then it is
also a Trash folder and can be emptied via the right-click menu item.

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From flyingrhino at orcon.net.nz  Wed Jan 31 00:06:05 2018
From: flyingrhino at orcon.net.nz (flyingrhino)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 12:06:05 +1300
Subject: [Users] Shortcut key to fancy render view for HTML messages
In-Reply-To: <20180130211721.551b9f9a@penny>
References: <20180129134654.3ee0d8e4@kenslpc> <20180130155928.6878f3da@kenslpc>
 <20180130060046.4a0e1652@utnubu> <20180130184849.7ab01db0@kenslpc>
 <20180130211721.551b9f9a@penny>
Message-ID: <20180131120605.46c44492@kenslpc>

On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 21:17:21 +0100
Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 18:48:49 +1300
> flyingrhino <flyingrhino at orcon.net.nz> wrote:
> 
> > If fancy is undermined due to inconsistent/aged libwebkitgtk , should
> > claws even support fancy any more? As much as we appreciate the hard
> > work by the fancy developers, the software is only as secure as the
> > libraries it relies upon.
> 
> It is an optional plugin. Once its downside (being insecure) outweighs
> its usefulness, you can unload and never use it again.
> 
> We will likely continue to include it in Claws Mail releases for the
> foreseeable future, even though most Linux distributions will remove
> it from their packages. At most, I can see us adding a warning dialog
> upon loading the plugin, informing the user about the issue.
> 
> Regards,
> 

Supporting fancy + warning message is a fair solution. 
I love the usefulness of fancy and it's a shame that the libraries let it down.

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It's just a case of mind over matter ...
... And you need a lot of mind to control that much matter ...



From ticho at claws-mail.org  Wed Jan 31 00:25:45 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 00:25:45 +0100
Subject: [Users] Testing Windows version with newer Webkit
In-Reply-To: <20180130222607.00003698@prost.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20180130112552.4f0e0518@penny>
 <20180130162228.00004a36@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20180130192818.1576ff88@penny>
 <20180130222607.00003698@prost.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20180131002545.4c79ea8d@penny>

On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 22:26:07 +0000
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

> What's the difference between this and the 3.16.0-2 version in the test
> directory?

That one was just to test a build with debug symbols in separate files.
The same can be tested with the "newwebkit" builds, though, see
the .zip files, so the 3.16.0-2 version is pretty much obsolete. I will
delete it soon.

Regards,
-- 
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jan 31 01:30:42 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 00:30:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3956] Please allow a folder to be emptied for folders
 such as 'Junk'
In-Reply-To: <bug-3956-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3956-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3956-595-hXCJc67XGZ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3956

--- Comment #2 from Will B <will.brokenbourgh2877 at gmail.com> ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> You can make your Junk folder a sub-folder of the Trash folder and then it
> is also a Trash folder and can be emptied via the right-click menu item.

Thank you Paul, this is helpful.

I would still like to keep this open until it's implemented or denied.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jan 31 16:33:27 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 15:33:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3956] Please allow a folder to be emptied for folders
 such as 'Junk'
In-Reply-To: <bug-3956-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3956-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3956-595-PULxyHKiR9@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3956

--- Comment #3 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> You can make your Junk folder a sub-folder of the Trash folder and then it
> is also a Trash folder and can be emptied via the right-click menu item.

Unfortunately this doesn't work for server-side top-level Junk folders which
you can't move.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jan 31 16:45:39 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 15:45:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3956] Please allow a folder to be emptied for folders
 such as 'Junk'
In-Reply-To: <bug-3956-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3956-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3956-595-jul6v8V2VJ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3956

--- Comment #4 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #0)
> When a folder is right-clicked and 'Properties' -> 'General' -> 'Folder
> Type' is chosen, in addition to 'Normal', 'Trash', 'Queue', etc, I think
> there needs to be a folder type of 'Junk'.  
> 
> I'm asking for this so that it can be emptied like the Trash folder, instead
> of having to Select All and Deleting.
> 
> If a 'Junk' folder type is too specific, maybe you could add a check-box to
> the general folder properties called 'Can be emptied' or something similar.

Having to configure folders for this simple operation is a bit overkill IMO.
Furthermore, if not configured that way, should the "Select All" + "Delete"
combination still empty the folder or not? :-)

Reusing the "Empty trash..." context menu item and naming it "Empty folder..."
when it's not a Trash folder is more straighforward and probably easier to
implement.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jan 31 17:31:47 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 16:31:47 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3956] Please allow a folder to be emptied for folders
 such as 'Junk'
In-Reply-To: <bug-3956-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3956-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3956-595-lICy12Nrhk@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3956

--- Comment #5 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
Created attachment 1841
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Proposed fix

This is a quick implementation of the "Empty folder..." menu item. It surely
can be improved because of the similarity with the empty trash function, but
seems to do the job.

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