From bugs.michael at gmx.net Thu Feb 1 03:03:54 2018 From: bugs.michael at gmx.net (Michael Schwendt) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 03:03:54 +0100 Subject: [Users] Fwd: Deprecate libcrypt and don't build it by default. Message-ID: <20180201030354.729d2527@noname> Hello, everyone! The following has been causing some disturbance recently: | Deprecate libcrypt and don't build it by default. | https://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2017-08/msg01257.html | The function prototypes for crypt and encrypt are removed from | unistd.h, and the function prototype for setkey is removed from | stdlib.h; they do *not* come back with --enable-obsolete-crypt. Claws Mail still contains compatibility code to decrypt old passwords which the user has not changed. As I understand it, Claws Mail does not re-encrypt those old passwords automatically, because it would not add security before the user would set a customized Master Password (a feature since 3.14.0). Are there any plans with regard to this? From finkandreas at web.de Thu Feb 1 10:52:48 2018 From: finkandreas at web.de (Andreas Fink) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 10:52:48 +0100 Subject: [Users] libnsl not needed? Message-ID: <20180201105248.0899ca74@web.de> Hello, why is claws-mail checking for gethostbyaddr in libnsl in the file configure.ac? This seems rather unnecessary, since the final binary of claws-mail does no link to libnsl if you use the linker flag --as-needed. Can this be removed for future builds, since we do not need to link against more libraries then necessary ;) Cheers Andreas From ticho at claws-mail.org Thu Feb 1 11:43:36 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 11:43:36 +0100 Subject: [Users] Fwd: Deprecate libcrypt and don't build it by default. In-Reply-To: <20180201030354.729d2527@noname> References: <20180201030354.729d2527@noname> Message-ID: <20180201114211.73318366.andrej@kacian.sk> On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 03:03:54 +0100 Michael Schwendt wrote: > Hello, everyone! > > The following has been causing some disturbance recently: > > | Deprecate libcrypt and don't build it by default. > | https://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2017-08/msg01257.html > > | The function prototypes for crypt and encrypt are removed from > | unistd.h, and the function prototype for setkey is removed from > | stdlib.h; they do *not* come back with --enable-obsolete-crypt. > > Claws Mail still contains compatibility code to decrypt old passwords > which the user has not changed. As I understand it, Claws Mail does > not re-encrypt those old passwords automatically, because it would not > add security before the user would set a customized Master Password > (a feature since 3.14.0). > > Are there any plans with regard to this? There are no plans as of yet. The idea was that the old-style passwords would eventually disappear, one by one, from users' configurations, and the compatibility code will be removed many, many years from now. I guess we could look at adding our own --disable-obsolete-password-encryption configure option sometimes. Regards, -- Andrej From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 1 21:36:22 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2018 20:36:22 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3957] New: Claws-Mail 64bit crashes when composing new message while spell-check is on Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3957 Bug ID: 3957 Summary: Claws-Mail 64bit crashes when composing new message while spell-check is on Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail (Windows) Version: 3.16.0 Hardware: PC OS: Windows 10 Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: default Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: mergia at gmx.net When I try to write a new message in Claws-Mail (64bit version) under Windows 10, the program crashes each time I write more than about 30 characters. The overall amount of characters in the message does not matter, it must be either the time or the amount of newly added characters. This only happens as long as spell-check is activated. If I disable spellcheck, the program is stable, and I can write and reply to messages with text of any length. Steps to Reproduce Reply to any message with spell-check activated and write more than about 30 characters. Actual Results The application crashes without any error messages. Expected Results The window stays open till I either close it or send the message. Workaround Disable automatic spell check. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 1 22:40:18 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2018 21:40:18 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3957] Claws-Mail 64bit crashes when composing new message while spell-check is on In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3957 --- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian --- What if you disable automatic draft saving every X characters (on Writing page in main preferences) and leave spell checking enabled? Does it still crash? I was just able to reproduce this crash once, but not anymore, which is weird. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From rmnet at mailc.net Fri Feb 2 18:07:02 2018 From: rmnet at mailc.net (Rene Maurer) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2018 18:07:02 +0100 Subject: [Users] No spell checker anymore Message-ID: <20180202170705.837A224996@mailuser.nyi.internal> Hello I am using claws-mail 3.16.0 on ARCH Linux and I have just detected that spell ckeck is gone away (I have done a system update some days ago, but I am not sure that this is the cause of the problem). There is no more Spell Cheching entry in Preferences|Compose and also during message compose spell check isn't available anymore. Can anybody point me to the right direction for locating the error, please. Thanks, René From den_ml at posteo.de Fri Feb 2 18:18:06 2018 From: den_ml at posteo.de (Denis) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2018 20:18:06 +0300 Subject: [Users] Convenient way ofI browsing/viewing backuped messages? In-Reply-To: <20180130091709.0e4e8eb9@kujata> References: <20180128100703.2b862f17@manjaro> <20180128111946.47a1d3a4@kujata> <20180130103408.343d8681@manjaro> <20180130091709.0e4e8eb9@kujata> Message-ID: <20180202201806.6cfc0def@manjaro> On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 09:17:09 +0000 Paul wrote: > On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 10:34:08 +0300 > Denis wrote: > > > But does this work only with copying messages from within Claws > > Mail? When I try copying message files with file manager, Claws > > Mail does not see them in the corresponding folder of the new MH > > mailbox. I'm asking just in case, copying messages with a file > > manager may sometime come in handy. > > Yes, I was talking about copying within claws-mail. You can also do > it with the file manager. If you move them with the file manager and > claws-mail does not see them, (which never has been the case for me), > you can right-click the top-level MH mailbox folder and choose 'check > for new messages'. (There are also 'check for new folders' and > 'rebuild folder tree', if ever you need them.) > > with regards > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users Thanks for the help! -- Respectfully, Denis Shadrin From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 2 18:34:38 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2018 17:34:38 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3957] Claws-Mail 64bit crashes when composing new message while spell-check is on In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3957 --- Comment #2 from mergia at gmx.net --- Disabling auto save also prevents the crash. Strangely enough, any option only changes the program's stability after I completely reboot the computer / windows. That is, if I start with a stable connection, I can compose messages with both options enabled. However, if I restart the computer while Claws had both options enabled, it will still crash if I try to write a message even if I disable them before actually writing the message. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From danlyke at flutterby.com Fri Feb 2 22:04:07 2018 From: danlyke at flutterby.com (Dan Lyke) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2018 13:04:07 -0800 Subject: [Users] Message deletion working backwards from what I expect Message-ID: <20180202130407.7a0c12df@crocus> I upgraded to Ubuntu 17.10, and all of a sudden it's like the behavior for the main message pane got reversed: If I'm sorted by date ascending as I go down, delete a message and the highlighted bar goes to the message before the one I deleted, not staying in the same place and highlighting the one after. If I'm sorted the other way, delete goes to the one after. This is annoying 'cause I want to start at the oldest new message and delete as I read them, instead this new control behavior means I have to start at the newest new message. Is there some config option I screwed up? From cae at eslrahc.com Fri Feb 2 22:37:35 2018 From: cae at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2018 16:37:35 -0500 Subject: [Users] Message deletion working backwards from what I expect In-Reply-To: <20180202130407.7a0c12df@crocus> References: <20180202130407.7a0c12df@crocus> Message-ID: <20180202163735.1a567688@Boss1800.eslrahc.com> On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 13:04:07 -0800 Dan Lyke wrote: > If I'm sorted by date ascending as I go down, delete a message and the > highlighted bar goes to the message before the one I deleted, not > staying in the same place and highlighting the one after. > > If I'm sorted the other way, delete goes to the one after. > > This is annoying 'cause I want to start at the oldest new message and > delete as I read them, instead this new control behavior means I have > to start at the newest new message. > > Is there some config option I screwed up? You can set|change the behavior in the "Hidden preferences" The change can done by gui using clawsker Or by manually editing ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc Change "next_on_delete=0" to "next_on_delete=1" With either method close claws before making the change. Charles -- You will meet an important person who will help you advance professionally. ---------------------- Mageia release 7 (Cauldron) for x86_64$ On Boss1800....http://www.eslrahc.com Registered Linux user #182463 4.14.16-server-1.mga7 x86_64 ---------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 195 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From shai at platonix.com Fri Feb 2 22:50:00 2018 From: shai at platonix.com (Shai Berger) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2018 23:50:00 +0200 Subject: [Users] Message deletion working backwards from what I expect In-Reply-To: <20180202130407.7a0c12df@crocus> References: <20180202130407.7a0c12df@crocus> Message-ID: <20180202235000.4ca6a830.shai@platonix.com> It's probably not something you've done, but it's something you can fix. There's a hidden setting: next_on_delete '0' or '1'. Controls the message selection after deleting, moving, or trashing a message. Default is '0', select previous message. You can change it in your .claws-mail/clawsrc file. HTH, Shai. On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 13:04:07 -0800 Dan Lyke wrote: > I upgraded to Ubuntu 17.10, and all of a sudden it's like the behavior > for the main message pane got reversed: > > If I'm sorted by date ascending as I go down, delete a message and the > highlighted bar goes to the message before the one I deleted, not > staying in the same place and highlighting the one after. > > If I'm sorted the other way, delete goes to the one after. > > This is annoying 'cause I want to start at the oldest new message and > delete as I read them, instead this new control behavior means I have > to start at the newest new message. > > Is there some config option I screwed up? > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users From dan_arico at aricosystems.com Fri Feb 2 23:06:21 2018 From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2018 17:06:21 -0500 Subject: [Users] Settings Message-ID: <20180202170621.25b3030c.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> I'm having a problem with my compose window. The dropdown menus for From: and the To:/cc:/bcc: below show a black background and an almost black font that makes it impossible to read. When I move the mouse pointer over the menu, the font changes to a lighter color so it's still possible to use. I'd like to change the colors, but I can't find the settings. Can anyone help? Dan Arico -- One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them, One OS to bring them all, and in the Darkness bind them, In the land of Redmond, where the Sales Reps lie. From danlyke at flutterby.com Fri Feb 2 23:33:51 2018 From: danlyke at flutterby.com (Dan Lyke) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2018 14:33:51 -0800 Subject: [Users] Message deletion working backwards from what I expect In-Reply-To: <20180202235000.4ca6a830.shai@platonix.com> References: <20180202130407.7a0c12df@crocus> <20180202235000.4ca6a830.shai@platonix.com> Message-ID: <20180202143351.329d5ea4@crocus> On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 23:50:00 +0200 Shai Berger wrote: > It's probably not something you've done, but it's something you can > fix. There's a hidden setting: > > next_on_delete > > '0' or '1'. Controls the message selection after deleting, > moving, or trashing a message. Default is '0', select > previous message. Thanks, there's still something about this that isn't the previous behavior, but I think I can train my fingers to get along with "1". Dan From dave at howorth.org.uk Sat Feb 3 02:08:41 2018 From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 01:08:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] Settings In-Reply-To: <20180202170621.25b3030c.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> References: <20180202170621.25b3030c.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> Message-ID: <20180203010841.79f1d35f@acer-suse.lan> On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 17:06:21 -0500 Dan Arico wrote: > I'm having a problem with my compose window. The dropdown menus for > From: and the To:/cc:/bcc: below show a black background and an almost > black font that makes it impossible to read. When I move the mouse > pointer over the menu, the font changes to a lighter color so it's > still possible to use. > > I'd like to change the colors, but I can't find the settings. Can > anyone help? What operating system? What desktop environment? What theme? (all if applicable) > Dan Arico From dan_arico at aricosystems.com Sat Feb 3 02:17:35 2018 From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2018 20:17:35 -0500 Subject: [Users] Settings In-Reply-To: <20180203010841.79f1d35f@acer-suse.lan> References: <20180202170621.25b3030c.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20180203010841.79f1d35f@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: <20180202201735.2401da7d.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 01:08:41 +0000 Dave Howorth wrote: > On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 17:06:21 -0500 > Dan Arico wrote: > > > I'm having a problem with my compose window. The dropdown menus for > > From: and the To:/cc:/bcc: below show a black background and an > > almost black font that makes it impossible to read. When I move the > > mouse pointer over the menu, the font changes to a lighter color so > > it's still possible to use. > > > > I'd like to change the colors, but I can't find the settings. Can > > anyone help? > > What operating system? What desktop environment? What theme? (all if > applicable) Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. -- One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them, One OS to bring them all, and in the Darkness bind them, In the land of Redmond, where the Sales Reps lie. From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sat Feb 3 05:22:46 2018 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 05:22:46 +0100 Subject: [Users] No spell checker anymore In-Reply-To: <20180202170705.837A224996@mailuser.nyi.internal> References: <20180202170705.837A224996@mailuser.nyi.internal> Message-ID: <20180203052246.6920ba81@utnubu> On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 18:07:02 +0100, Rene Maurer wrote: >I am using claws-mail 3.16.0 on ARCH Linux and I have just detected The mail of your header claims Claws Mail 3.16.0git25. >that spell ckeck is gone away (I have done a system update some days >ago, but I am not sure that this is the cause of the problem). > >There is no more Spell Cheching entry in Preferences|Compose and also >during message compose spell check isn't available anymore. > >Can anybody point me to the right direction for locating the error, >please. 1. see my mail to this list http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2018-January/020780.html A workaround might be to provide an older release of enchant, too or just test to link from the old path to the new path. 2. take a look at the bottom of https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/commit/trunk?h=packages/claws-mail&id=08c232c39c98f5652a8b74db212b2138b053973a As you can see the offical repository patched against the new version of enchant, maybe this does fix the issue. 3. if you are intreasted that this should get fixed by upstream, you need to report it to http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/ From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sat Feb 3 05:26:30 2018 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 05:26:30 +0100 Subject: [Users] No spell checker anymore In-Reply-To: <20180203052246.6920ba81@utnubu> References: <20180202170705.837A224996@mailuser.nyi.internal> <20180203052246.6920ba81@utnubu> Message-ID: <20180203052630.22c8aec1@utnubu> On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 05:22:46 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 18:07:02 +0100, Rene Maurer wrote: >>I am using claws-mail 3.16.0 on ARCH Linux and I have just detected > >The mail of your header claims Claws Mail 3.16.0git25. > >>that spell ckeck is gone away (I have done a system update some days >>ago, but I am not sure that this is the cause of the problem). >> >>There is no more Spell Cheching entry in Preferences|Compose and also >>during message compose spell check isn't available anymore. >> >>Can anybody point me to the right direction for locating the error, >>please. > >1. see my mail to this list >http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2018-January/020780.html >A workaround might be to provide an older release of enchant, too or >just test to link from the old path to the new path. Links unlikely work, an idiotic idea, but keeping two versions of enchant while compiling against the old verson might work. >2. take a look at the bottom of >https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/commit/trunk?h=packages/claws-mail&id=08c232c39c98f5652a8b74db212b2138b053973a > >As you can see the offical repository patched against the new version >of enchant, maybe this does fix the issue. > >3. if you are intreasted that this should get fixed by upstream, you >need to report it to http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/ > -- https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2018/01/spectre_and_mel_1.html From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 3 11:58:14 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 10:58:14 +0000 Subject: [Users] Settings In-Reply-To: <20180202201735.2401da7d.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> References: <20180202170621.25b3030c.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20180203010841.79f1d35f@acer-suse.lan> <20180202201735.2401da7d.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> Message-ID: <20180203105814.37e29a68@kujata> On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 20:17:35 -0500 Dan Arico wrote: > Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. That only answers one third of what you were asked. But, anyway, it's a GTK+ theme problem. Try changing your GTK theme and theme engine. It could be that your desktop environment is having a detrimental effect. Here is a mailing list message which might help you, it deals with tooltip colouring, but is essentially the same problem, I believe: http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2018-January/020618.html with regards Paul From rmnet at mailc.net Sat Feb 3 12:40:02 2018 From: rmnet at mailc.net (Rene Maurer) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 12:40:02 +0100 Subject: [Users] No spell checker anymore In-Reply-To: <20180203052630.22c8aec1@utnubu> References: <20180202170705.837A224996@mailuser.nyi.internal> <20180203052246.6920ba81@utnubu> <20180203052630.22c8aec1@utnubu> Message-ID: <20180203114004.BC0827E41F@mailuser.nyi.internal> Ralf, thank you very much for pointing this out! From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sat Feb 3 16:51:40 2018 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 16:51:40 +0100 Subject: [Users] No spell checker anymore In-Reply-To: <20180203114004.BC0827E41F@mailuser.nyi.internal> References: <20180202170705.837A224996@mailuser.nyi.internal> <20180203052246.6920ba81@utnubu> <20180203052630.22c8aec1@utnubu> <20180203114004.BC0827E41F@mailuser.nyi.internal> Message-ID: <20180203165140.78757998@utnubu> On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 12:40:02 +0100, Rene Maurer wrote: >Ralf, thank you very much for pointing this out! You are welcome! Btw. I don't know why the AUR maintainer just bumped the git release, without applying a patch. He seemingly didn't understand my comment and my comment why I flagged it out of date. Since I'm short in time, spell checking still is broken for my Arch Linux claws-mail-git build. From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sat Feb 3 16:52:52 2018 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 16:52:52 +0100 Subject: [Users] No spell checker anymore In-Reply-To: <20180203165140.78757998@utnubu> References: <20180202170705.837A224996@mailuser.nyi.internal> <20180203052246.6920ba81@utnubu> <20180203052630.22c8aec1@utnubu> <20180203114004.BC0827E41F@mailuser.nyi.internal> <20180203165140.78757998@utnubu> Message-ID: <20180203165252.09f8f35f@utnubu> On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 16:51:40 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 12:40:02 +0100, Rene Maurer wrote: >>Ralf, thank you very much for pointing this out! > >You are welcome! Btw. I don't know why the AUR maintainer just bumped >the git release, without applying a patch. He seemingly didn't >understand my comment and my comment why I flagged it out of date. >Since I'm short in time, spell checking still is broken for my Arch >Linux claws-mail-git build. Btw. what is "3.16.0git25/patched" ^^^^^^^^ for? From rmnet at mailc.net Sat Feb 3 19:26:25 2018 From: rmnet at mailc.net (Rene Maurer) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 19:26:25 +0100 Subject: [Users] No spell checker anymore In-Reply-To: <20180203165252.09f8f35f@utnubu> References: <20180202170705.837A224996@mailuser.nyi.internal> <20180203052246.6920ba81@utnubu> <20180203052630.22c8aec1@utnubu> <20180203114004.BC0827E41F@mailuser.nyi.internal> <20180203165140.78757998@utnubu> <20180203165252.09f8f35f@utnubu> Message-ID: <20180203182629.1185124724@mailuser.nyi.internal> Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Btw. what is "3.16.0git25/patched" > ^^^^^^^^ for? ;-) I don't like the standard quotation mark behavior for multiple replies. So I apply a patch and build claws myself. Maybe you remember... http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2016-February/015921.html From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sat Feb 3 19:43:34 2018 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 19:43:34 +0100 Subject: [Users] No spell checker anymore In-Reply-To: <20180203182629.1185124724@mailuser.nyi.internal> References: <20180202170705.837A224996@mailuser.nyi.internal> <20180203052246.6920ba81@utnubu> <20180203052630.22c8aec1@utnubu> <20180203114004.BC0827E41F@mailuser.nyi.internal> <20180203165140.78757998@utnubu> <20180203165252.09f8f35f@utnubu> <20180203182629.1185124724@mailuser.nyi.internal> Message-ID: <20180203194334.067472d5@utnubu> On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 19:26:25 +0100, Rene Maurer wrote: >Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> Btw. what is "3.16.0git25/patched" >> ^^^^^^^^ for? > >;-) > >I don't like the standard quotation mark behavior for multiple >replies. So I apply a patch and build claws myself. > >Maybe you remember... >http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2016-February/015921.html Indeed I remeber this thread, since a mutt or so user asked me off-list, why I reply with >Q >> A :D. He already suspected that it's an MUA "issue" and not my eccentricity ;). From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sat Feb 3 19:46:46 2018 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 19:46:46 +0100 Subject: [Users] No spell checker anymore In-Reply-To: <20180203194334.067472d5@utnubu> References: <20180202170705.837A224996@mailuser.nyi.internal> <20180203052246.6920ba81@utnubu> <20180203052630.22c8aec1@utnubu> <20180203114004.BC0827E41F@mailuser.nyi.internal> <20180203165140.78757998@utnubu> <20180203165252.09f8f35f@utnubu> <20180203182629.1185124724@mailuser.nyi.internal> <20180203194334.067472d5@utnubu> Message-ID: <20180203194646.1fb33dc0@utnubu> Oops, vice versa not >Q >> A but >> Q >A Reply to Q 'n' A :D From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sat Feb 3 19:56:35 2018 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 19:56:35 +0100 Subject: [Users] No spell checker anymore In-Reply-To: <20180203182629.1185124724@mailuser.nyi.internal> References: <20180202170705.837A224996@mailuser.nyi.internal> <20180203052246.6920ba81@utnubu> <20180203052630.22c8aec1@utnubu> <20180203114004.BC0827E41F@mailuser.nyi.internal> <20180203165140.78757998@utnubu> <20180203165252.09f8f35f@utnubu> <20180203182629.1185124724@mailuser.nyi.internal> Message-ID: <20180203195635.0c049e12@utnubu> On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 19:26:25 +0100, Rene Maurer wrote: >Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> Btw. what is "3.16.0git25/patched" >> ^^^^^^^^ for? > >;-) > >I don't like the standard quotation mark behavior for multiple >replies. So I apply a patch and build claws myself. Consider to remove the patch, since it removes the extraordinary freakish coolness from Claws. I heard of users who only migrated from another MUA to Claws, regarding this unique distinctive feature. From dan_arico at aricosystems.com Sat Feb 3 22:38:23 2018 From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 16:38:23 -0500 Subject: [Users] Settings In-Reply-To: <20180203105814.37e29a68@kujata> References: <20180202170621.25b3030c.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20180203010841.79f1d35f@acer-suse.lan> <20180202201735.2401da7d.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20180203105814.37e29a68@kujata> Message-ID: <20180203163823.469c4ee7.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 10:58:14 +0000 Paul wrote: > On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 20:17:35 -0500 > Dan Arico wrote: > > > Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. > > That only answers one third of what you were asked. It's the standard setup that System 76 was putting on the systems they've sold for the last couple of years. But, anyway, it's > a GTK+ theme problem. Try changing your GTK theme and theme engine. > It could be that your desktop environment is having a detrimental > effect. Here is a mailing list message which might help you, it > deals with tooltip colouring, but is essentially the same problem, I > believe: > > http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2018-January/020618.html Not trying to be obtuse, but I just want to change one color. Dan -- One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them, One OS to bring them all, and in the Darkness bind them, In the land of Redmond, where the Sales Reps lie. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 3 23:28:06 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2018 22:28:06 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3958] New: Import properties from vCards Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3958 Bug ID: 3958 Summary: Import properties from vCards Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.16.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: UI/Address Book Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: shai at platonix.com I've just imported some addresses from a .vcf file, and found the import missing. The formatted names and email addresses seem to have been imported properly (up to v3.0 issues, see Bug 3767), but other properties -- telephone numbers, addresses, organization, notes, and even nicknames and name parts -- are all missing. I note that the address book has, by default, some predefined names for the phones and addresses, but will accept any name. It would be useful even if I had gotten the phones as raw vcard entries -- that is, with names like 'TEL;TYPE=MOBILE' rather than the nice 'mobile phone'. But current import seems to just ignore them. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From jerry at seibercom.net Sun Feb 4 12:06:47 2018 From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 06:06:47 -0500 Subject: [Users] Making auth easier: OAuth 2.0 for Google APIs Message-ID: <20180204060647.00004288@seibercom.net> I know it has been asked before; however, I was wondering if there was any interest in adapting claws-mail to use the two part authentication as described by Google here: https://developers.googleblog.com/2011/03/making-auth-easier-oauth-20-for-google.html Microsoft has apparently added support for it: https://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2013/09/12/microsoft-finally-adds-imap-and-oauth-support-to-outlook-com/ Yahoo has stated that they are going to soon be blocking MUAs that don't employ it. -- Jerry From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 4 08:56:42 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2018 07:56:42 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3959] New: Filter rules affects only on INBOX Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3959 Bug ID: 3959 Summary: Filter rules affects only on INBOX Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.15.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: minor Priority: P3 Component: Filtering Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: bergentroll at insiberia.net I have "Junk E-mails" falder, where on server side goes spam messages with "**SPAM**" prefix in the Subject header. But server does not mark these letters as readed. I create a suitable filter rule, but it has no affect on my junk folder. If I send a mail with "**SPAM** lorem ipsum" subject to INBOX folder, rule works fine and message is marked as readed. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 4 12:10:00 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2018 11:10:00 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3959] Filter rules affects only on INBOX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3959 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Paul --- That is exactly how it is supposed to be. Filtering rules apply only to messages which are not filtered server-side. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From ricardo at mones.org Sun Feb 4 12:46:40 2018 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 12:46:40 +0100 Subject: [Users] Making auth easier: OAuth 2.0 for Google APIs In-Reply-To: <20180204060647.00004288@seibercom.net> References: <20180204060647.00004288@seibercom.net> Message-ID: <20180204114640.qsihs5cs42f2tguj@curuxu> On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 06:06:47AM -0500, Jerry wrote: > I know it has been asked before; however, I was wondering if there was any > interest in adapting claws-mail to use the two part authentication as > described by Google here: > https://developers.googleblog.com/2011/03/making-auth-easier-oauth-20-for-google.html Sure, do you have a good patch? > Microsoft has apparently added support for it: > https://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2013/09/12/microsoft-finally-adds-imap-and-oauth-support-to-outlook-com/ And IMAP access using password is still enabled. > Yahoo has stated that they are going to soon be blocking MUAs that don't > employ it. Losing users just because...? Really? ;-) They've also done what the OAuth inventors did: https://blog.context.io/yahoos-less-secure-app-setting-2203fcef54f best regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it. Richard Feynman -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: not available URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 4 14:05:08 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2018 13:05:08 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3959] Filter rules affects only on INBOX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3959 --- Comment #2 from bergentroll at insiberia.net --- (In reply to comment #1) > That is exactly how it is supposed to be. Filtering rules apply only to > messages which are not filtered server-side. OK, it seems like a little incomprehension. So why filter rules does not affect on folder other than INBOX? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 4 14:05:27 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2018 13:05:27 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3959] Filter rules affects only on INBOX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3959 bergentroll at insiberia.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID |--- -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 4 14:13:23 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2018 13:13:23 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3959] Filter rules affects only on INBOX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3959 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #3 from Paul --- Because Filtering is to filter incoming messages. You can use Processing rules after messages have been received, or run the filter rules manually. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 4 15:01:37 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2018 14:01:37 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3959] Filter rules affects only on INBOX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3959 --- Comment #4 from bergentroll at insiberia.net --- But if new messages come to folders other then INPUT, there messages is still incoming, they need processing too, are not they? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 4 15:14:39 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2018 14:14:39 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3959] Filter rules affects only on INBOX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3959 --- Comment #5 from Paul --- If they land somewhere other than INBOX then they've already been filtered. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 4 15:37:35 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2018 14:37:35 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3959] Filter rules affects only on INBOX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3959 --- Comment #6 from bergentroll at insiberia.net --- Ok, Paul. I've got you, thanks. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Sun Feb 4 18:34:21 2018 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 17:34:21 +0000 Subject: [Users] Making auth easier: OAuth 2.0 for Google APIs In-Reply-To: <20180204114640.qsihs5cs42f2tguj@curuxu> References: <20180204060647.00004288@seibercom.net> <20180204114640.qsihs5cs42f2tguj@curuxu> Message-ID: <20180204173421.4d0c4125@peterson.fenrir.org.uk> On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 12:46:40 +0100 Ricardo Mones wrote: > > Yahoo has stated that they are going to soon be blocking MUAs that don't > > employ it. > > Losing users just because...? Really? ;-) Who are this Yahoo people? -- Brian Morrison "I am not young enough to know everything" Oscar Wilde From ticho at claws-mail.org Sun Feb 4 21:43:51 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 21:43:51 +0100 Subject: [Users] Making auth easier: OAuth 2.0 for Google APIs In-Reply-To: <20180204060647.00004288@seibercom.net> References: <20180204060647.00004288@seibercom.net> Message-ID: <20180204214351.3f3f89e2@penny> On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 06:06:47 -0500 Jerry wrote: > I know it has been asked before; however, I was wondering if there was any > interest in adapting claws-mail to use the two part authentication as > described by Google here: > https://developers.googleblog.com/2011/03/making-auth-easier-oauth-20-for-google.html > > Microsoft has apparently added support for it: > https://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2013/09/12/microsoft-finally-adds-imap-and-oauth-support-to-outlook-com/ > > Yahoo has stated that they are going to soon be blocking MUAs that don't > employ it. > >From Wikipedia: "Because OAuth 2.0 is more of a framework than a defined protocol, one OAuth 2.0 implementation is less likely to be naturally interoperable with another OAuth 2.0 implementation. Further deployment profiling and specification is required for any interoperability." This fact alone makes OAuth smell very bad to me. If we were to add OAuth support, it would have to be implemented differently for each provider (Google, Microsoft, my own mailserver if I decided to implement OAuth for it, Yahoo, ...), which is utter madness. I'm not against having this implemented (hopefully in a plugin), but I'm definitely not planning to go anywhere near it. Regards, -- Andrej From jerry at seibercom.net Sun Feb 4 22:17:56 2018 From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 16:17:56 -0500 Subject: [Users] Making auth easier: OAuth 2.0 for Google APIs In-Reply-To: <20180204214351.3f3f89e2@penny> References: <20180204060647.00004288@seibercom.net> <20180204214351.3f3f89e2@penny> Message-ID: <20180204161756.00006f15@seibercom.net> On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 21:43:51 +0100, Andrej Kacian stated: >On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 06:06:47 -0500 >Jerry wrote: > >> I know it has been asked before; however, I was wondering if there was any >> interest in adapting claws-mail to use the two part authentication as >> described by Google here: >> https://developers.googleblog.com/2011/03/making-auth-easier-oauth-20-for-google.html >> >> Microsoft has apparently added support for it: >> https://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2013/09/12/microsoft-finally-adds-imap-and-oauth-support-to-outlook-com/ >> >> Yahoo has stated that they are going to soon be blocking MUAs that don't >> employ it. >> > >From Wikipedia: > >"Because OAuth 2.0 is more of a framework than a defined protocol, one > OAuth 2.0 implementation is less likely to be naturally interoperable > with another OAuth 2.0 implementation. Further deployment profiling and > specification is required for any interoperability." > >This fact alone makes OAuth smell very bad to me. If we were to add >OAuth support, it would have to be implemented differently for each >provider (Google, Microsoft, my own mailserver if I decided to >implement OAuth for it, Yahoo, ...), which is utter madness. > >I'm not against having this implemented (hopefully in a plugin), but >I'm definitely not planning to go anywhere near it. There does appear to be a standard , although I am not sure how closely it is adhered to. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-v2-10 -- Jerry From shai at platonix.com Sun Feb 4 23:35:51 2018 From: shai at platonix.com (Shai Berger) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 00:35:51 +0200 Subject: [Users] Making auth easier: OAuth 2.0 for Google APIs In-Reply-To: <20180204161756.00006f15@seibercom.net> References: <20180204060647.00004288@seibercom.net> <20180204214351.3f3f89e2@penny> <20180204161756.00006f15@seibercom.net> Message-ID: <20180205003551.2d7f63f7.shai@platonix.com> On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 16:17:56 -0500 Jerry wrote: > On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 21:43:51 +0100, Andrej Kacian stated: > > > > >If we were to add > >OAuth support, it would have to be implemented differently for each > >provider (Google, Microsoft, my own mailserver if I decided to > >implement OAuth for it, Yahoo, ...), which is utter madness. > > > >I'm not against having this implemented (hopefully in a plugin), but > >I'm definitely not planning to go anywhere near it. > > There does appear to be a standard , although I > am not sure how closely it is adhered to. > For an idea of how well this works in practice, have a look at python-social-auth[1]. They have a special class for every supported provider[2]. Many of these classes are trivial, taking all of their behaviors from parent classes and adding just some constant or default definitions. Some are less trivial. Have fun, Shai. [1] http://python-social-auth.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ [2] https://github.com/python-social-auth/social-core/tree/master/social_core/backends From bvamundsen at yahoo.com Mon Feb 5 23:20:06 2018 From: bvamundsen at yahoo.com (Brian) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 16:20:06 -0600 Subject: [Users] Making auth easier: OAuth 2.0 for Google APIs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180205162006.3d386ac8@hicrest1.UGATE2> I've used Claws-mail for over ten years, moving five accounts away from Seamonley's email and non-standard mbox format. One year ago I also moved my wife off Outlook due to all the extraneous features which aren't used and MS propensity to constantly update with unneeded features. So I moved six different accounts for stability and consistent standards with mh files. If some of the large email providers decide to move to (their flavor of) OAuth, then I'll have to either start using their email in a browser or move from Claw-Mail to another client which has OAuth. I realize my simple needs aren't a big concern for the developers, but I would like to plan on what to expect from Claws-Mail and plan a multi month migration if necessary. At this time, I'm still connecting to GMail with 2FA turned off since I don't have cell texting. So would the Claws-mail development team please confirm they will add the ability to do this by plugin and publish how that plugin API will function? Or is the official development team position that Claws-mail will never support OAuth of any type and users should move to providers who don't require it if they want to continue to use Claw-mail. Pax tecum, absit iniuria; BrianA_MN From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 9 09:34:39 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2018 08:34:39 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3960] New: Sends unencrypted emails when encryption fails Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3960 Bug ID: 3960 Summary: Sends unencrypted emails when encryption fails Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.13.2 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Compose Window Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: claws_bugzilla at gdr.name When sending to one recipient, I'm getting the most unusual behavior: There's some PGP error but Claws decides to send the email in plaintext anyway. The error is probably in my setup and I'm not really asking for help with this, but it's a security problem that plain text email is being sent when it's not expected. I would expect 0. Privacy system = PGP Inline, Encrypt, not Sign 1. Getting an alert "Please note that attachments are not encrypted by the PGP/Inline system, nor are email headers, like Subject." 2. Getting "This encryption key is not fully trusted. If you choose to encrypt the message with this key, you don't know for sure that it will go to the person you mean it to." 3. Getting an alert with a red X icon, title "Error", heading "Error" and text "Couldn't encrypt the email: Unknown error", with only Close button. Claws Mail version 3.13.2 from Ubuntu 16.04 repos. (BUT AS FAR AS I SEE THE CODE IN HEAD IS NO DIFFERENT - SEE BELOW) PGP/Inline plugin Version: 3.13.2 ➜ ~ gpg2 --version gpg (GnuPG) 2.1.11 libgcrypt 1.6.5 ... ➜ ~ gpg --version gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.20 ... Could it be that this branch in code should return a negative number to prevent the message from sending? http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=blob;f=src/compose.c;h=ae5cd90e89b68b0056553d441d851b0ced5b5d78;hb=HEAD#l5903 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 9 15:19:36 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2018 14:19:36 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3960] Sends unencrypted emails when encryption fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3960 --- Comment #2 from GDR! --- Well, I selected Options->Encrypt so maybe I'm sending something confidential that I don't want to send in plain text. I'd rather not send it than send it in plain text. If you don't believe a random internet stranger that it's a security issue - when Enigmail for Thunderbird sent unencrypted email even though encryption was enabled, it made the news and got a CVE number. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 9 15:23:56 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2018 14:23:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3960] Sends unencrypted emails when encryption fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3960 --- Comment #3 from Paul --- You are totally believed, and I've verified the problem locally. I have a quick fix patch, which is, like you say, returning -5. Either this patch or a better, more complete fix will be in the next release. Thanks for the report. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 9 16:21:56 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2018 15:21:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3960] Sends unencrypted emails when encryption fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3960 --- Comment #4 from GDR! --- Thank you for taking this seriously Paul. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 9 16:29:14 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2018 15:29:14 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3960] Sends unencrypted emails when encryption fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3960 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|UI/Compose Window |Plugins/Privacy/PGP -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 9 21:04:40 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2018 20:04:40 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3857] crash when setting a wrong host In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3857 Michael Rasmussen changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #2 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2018-02-09 20:48:04.083112687 +0100 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=54033a1a46c19cb83c367699c705d7796463c9c5 Merge: 1c89c21 8036059 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Fri Feb 9 20:48:03 2018 +0100 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=80360594f0d55125e97a4831e46fea08b08e95be Author: Michael Rasmussen Date: Fri Feb 9 20:46:54 2018 +0100 Forgotten changes in commit 09301b6e73e4af1b03b6f19d340dd909cf527bcc Signed-off-by: Michael Rasmussen http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=d1c488269e3244759b921c041c77bcd198282af0 Merge: 2ae542a 09301b6 Author: Michael Rasmussen Date: Fri Feb 9 20:40:26 2018 +0100 Merge branch 'master' of ssh+git://git.claws-mail.org/home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=2ae542a77b687501c99fb4204a71d92abe6efce0 Merge: bc4915b a4b3b84 Author: Michael Rasmussen Date: Mon Nov 27 22:51:59 2017 +0100 Merge branch 'master' of ssh+git://git.claws-mail.org/home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc4915bb92508d919130ad229d8483324b82f039 Merge: 39be80d 8e9f89b Author: Michael Rasmussen Date: Thu Nov 16 17:18:24 2017 +0100 Merge branch 'master' of ssh+git://git.claws-mail.org/home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=39be80dde52ad1b5815fc14af5bec39068ee55d9 Merge: 22249a5 51805d8 Author: Michael Rasmussen Date: Fri Oct 27 16:45:01 2017 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of ssh+git://git.claws-mail.org/home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=22249a5bdbc5930c0a3069804ba9cdf35ec07dec Merge: c034331 3bce048 Author: Michael Rasmussen Date: Sat Sep 23 22:55:25 2017 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of ssh+git://git.claws-mail.org/home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=c03433163c1b3d0d9aaefc82c7c5a5fa2c413a58 Merge: 7ee8518 2bc71e4 Author: Michael Rasmussen Date: Tue Aug 29 23:07:36 2017 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of ssh+git://git.claws-mail.org/home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=7ee8518c9e2538f4c857e4d94dfcb2718edde48c Merge: 29ecadc 404c674 Author: Michael Rasmussen Date: Sat Aug 26 23:56:30 2017 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of ssh+git://git.claws-mail.org/home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=29ecadc1cb6d568b5a23e06d9256c0a714cb51a7 Author: Zhouyang Date: Fri Aug 4 11:53:26 2017 +0200 Fix bug #3857: Thanks to Zhouyang Signed-off-by: Michael Rasmussen -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From chris2014 at postbox.xyz Sun Feb 11 07:28:35 2018 From: chris2014 at postbox.xyz (Chris) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 07:28:35 +0100 Subject: [Users] Collapse all Threads Message-ID: <20180211072835.3e43bf81@cd> All, is there a shortcut to collapse all threads? TIA Chris -- Papst Franziskus ruft zum Kampf gegen Fake News auf. Wir finden, der Mann, der sich als Stellvertreter Christi ausgibt, von dem er behauptet, dessen Mutter sei zeitlebens Jungfrau gewesen, er hätte über Wasser gehen und selbiges in Wein verwandeln können, hat vollkommen recht. From chris2014 at postbox.xyz Sun Feb 11 07:32:53 2018 From: chris2014 at postbox.xyz (Chris) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 07:32:53 +0100 Subject: [Users] Doesnt move all messages Message-ID: <20180211073253.65721ded@cd> All, I'm on Ubuntu using Claws 3.13.2. When moving a couple of a hundred mails of a mailing list to another folder, only about 100 or 200 mails are moved. Claws doesn't crash and I don't find any error message in Dovecot log. Then I filter the mails again, select all and push Ctrl + O and then again only a part is moved. How to move all mails at once? Chris -- Papst Franziskus ruft zum Kampf gegen Fake News auf. Wir finden, der Mann, der sich als Stellvertreter Christi ausgibt, von dem er behauptet, dessen Mutter sei zeitlebens Jungfrau gewesen, er hätte über Wasser gehen und selbiges in Wein verwandeln können, hat vollkommen recht. From ticho at claws-mail.org Sun Feb 11 08:33:42 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 08:33:42 +0100 Subject: [Users] Collapse all Threads In-Reply-To: <20180211072835.3e43bf81@cd> References: <20180211072835.3e43bf81@cd> Message-ID: <20180211083342.368c8669@penny> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 07:28:35 +0100 Chris wrote: > All, > > is there a shortcut to collapse all threads? Look in the View menu of the main window. :) Regards, -- Andrej From ticho at claws-mail.org Sun Feb 11 08:37:20 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 08:37:20 +0100 Subject: [Users] Doesnt move all messages In-Reply-To: <20180211073253.65721ded@cd> References: <20180211073253.65721ded@cd> Message-ID: <20180211083720.3a18218e@penny> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 07:32:53 +0100 Chris wrote: > All, > > I'm on Ubuntu using Claws 3.13.2. > > When moving a couple of a hundred mails of a mailing list to another > folder, only about 100 or 200 mails are moved. Claws doesn't crash and > I don't find any error message in Dovecot log. Then I filter the mails > again, select all and push Ctrl + O and then again only a part is moved. No idea what could be wrong, I can move thousands of messages at once over here, and I am also using Dovecot. Maybe have a look at the Network log (main window's Tools menu or ~/.claws-mail/claws.log on disk) for more clues. Regards, -- Andrej From chris2014 at postbox.xyz Sun Feb 11 09:02:14 2018 From: chris2014 at postbox.xyz (Chris) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 09:02:14 +0100 Subject: [Users] Collapse all Threads In-Reply-To: <20180211083342.368c8669@penny> References: <20180211072835.3e43bf81@cd> <20180211083342.368c8669@penny> Message-ID: <20180211090214.7524dd30@cd> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 08:33:42 +0100 Andrej Kacian wrote: > Look in the View menu of the main window. :) At least on Xubuntu there's no shortcut shown. - Chris -- Papst Franziskus ruft zum Kampf gegen Fake News auf. Wir finden, der Mann, der sich als Stellvertreter Christi ausgibt, von dem er behauptet, dessen Mutter sei zeitlebens Jungfrau gewesen, er hätte über Wasser gehen und selbiges in Wein verwandeln können, hat vollkommen recht. From ticho at claws-mail.org Sun Feb 11 09:16:09 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 09:16:09 +0100 Subject: [Users] Collapse all Threads In-Reply-To: <20180211090214.7524dd30@cd> References: <20180211072835.3e43bf81@cd> <20180211083342.368c8669@penny> <20180211090214.7524dd30@cd> Message-ID: <20180211091609.423d5789@penny> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 09:02:14 +0100 Chris wrote: > On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 08:33:42 +0100 > Andrej Kacian wrote: > > > Look in the View menu of the main window. :) > > At least on Xubuntu there's no shortcut shown. Ah, you mean the keyboard shortcut? You can assign any keyboard shortcut to any menu option you want. See here for more info: http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Interface#How_can_I_change_the_key-bindings_.28hot-keys.29_in_Claws_Mail.3F Regards, -- Andrej From chris2014 at postbox.xyz Sun Feb 11 15:28:32 2018 From: chris2014 at postbox.xyz (Chris) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 15:28:32 +0100 Subject: [Users] Collapse all Threads In-Reply-To: <20180211091609.423d5789@penny> References: <20180211072835.3e43bf81@cd> <20180211083342.368c8669@penny> <20180211090214.7524dd30@cd> <20180211091609.423d5789@penny> Message-ID: <20180211152832.25c6434a@cd> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 09:16:09 +0100 Andrej Kacian wrote: > Ah, you mean the keyboard shortcut? You can assign any keyboard > shortcut to any menu option you want. See here for more info: > http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Interface#How_can_I_change_the_key-bindings_.28hot-keys.29_in_Claws_Mail.3F That's good, thank you. - Chris -- Papst Franziskus ruft zum Kampf gegen Fake News auf. Wir finden, der Mann, der sich als Stellvertreter Christi ausgibt, von dem er behauptet, dessen Mutter sei zeitlebens Jungfrau gewesen, er hätte über Wasser gehen und selbiges in Wein verwandeln können, hat vollkommen recht. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 11 17:22:09 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 16:22:09 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3961] New: Claws marks all emails as read Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3961 Bug ID: 3961 Summary: Claws marks all emails as read Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail (Windows) Version: 3.15.0 Hardware: PC OS: Windows 7 Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: default Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: wazz at ellijay.com I have reported this before, more than once over the years. Claws marks all my emails in my main Inbox as read. Has happened twice recently. I have claws open in a window, I am doing something else in another window, I go back to the Claws window, and everything gets marked as read. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 11 17:54:43 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 16:54:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3961] Claws marks all emails as read In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3961 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE --- Comment #1 from Paul --- *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 3950 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 11 17:54:43 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 16:54:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3950] marks all emails as "read" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3950 --- Comment #1 from Paul --- *** Bug 3961 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From den_ml at posteo.de Sun Feb 11 19:17:18 2018 From: den_ml at posteo.de (Denis) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 21:17:18 +0300 Subject: [Users] Convenient way ofI browsing/viewing backuped messages? In-Reply-To: <20180128111946.47a1d3a4@kujata> References: <20180128100703.2b862f17@manjaro> <20180128111946.47a1d3a4@kujata> Message-ID: <20180211211718.76a9c838@manjaro> On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 11:19:46 +0000 Paul wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 10:07:03 +0300 > Denis wrote: > > > I have limited space in my account, so I want to backup my messages > > and then delete those older than a couple months from the account. > > I know how to make a backup - there is a plugin for Claws Mail, > > also I can manually copy the subdir I need from > > ~/.claws-mail/imapcache. But how do I then browse/view these > > messages? > > > > Using a text editor is not really convenient because you get a > > block of service information (Return-Path, Received: from, and so > > on) and cannot see non-text attachments. Besides it would be > > convenient to browse these (backed up) messages in Claws Mail, like > > with the messages that are currently in your account, just in a > > different folder. So, anyone has done that? Do I need to create a > > separate offline account and somehow point Claws Mail to the folder > > with the backed up messages? Is there a standard/popular way of > > handling it? > > You don't need to create an offline account, but probably the easiest > way is to create an MH mailbox, (/File/Add mailbox/MH...) and then > copy the messages you want to backup to a folder in the MH mailbox, > and then delete them from your IMAP mailbox. > > with regards > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users I noticed that Claws Mail puts messages sent not from my main account into that backup mailbox. I have a Posteo account and two aliases to it. Messages from these aliases should go (and went before I created a backup mailbox) into the same mailbox as the messages from/to my main account. But now when I send a message from either alias it goes not to the Sent in my "Posteo (IMAP)" mailbox but into the Sent folder of my mailbox for backups - "Mail_backup (MH)". How can I prevent it? -- Respectfully, Denis Shadrin From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 11 20:36:30 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 19:36:30 +0000 Subject: [Users] Convenient way ofI browsing/viewing backuped messages? In-Reply-To: <20180211211718.76a9c838@manjaro> References: <20180128100703.2b862f17@manjaro> <20180128111946.47a1d3a4@kujata> <20180211211718.76a9c838@manjaro> Message-ID: <20180211193630.4fbd43c4@kujata> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 21:17:18 +0300 Denis wrote: > How can I prevent it? See the 'Advanced' page of the account preferences. with regards Paul From den_ml at posteo.de Sun Feb 11 20:52:51 2018 From: den_ml at posteo.de (Denis) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 22:52:51 +0300 Subject: [Users] Convenient way ofI browsing/viewing backuped messages? In-Reply-To: <20180211193630.4fbd43c4@kujata> References: <20180128100703.2b862f17@manjaro> <20180128111946.47a1d3a4@kujata> <20180211211718.76a9c838@manjaro> <20180211193630.4fbd43c4@kujata> Message-ID: <20180211225251.74f59a90@manjaro> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 19:36:30 +0000 Paul wrote: > On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 21:17:18 +0300 > Denis wrote: > > > How can I prevent it? > > See the 'Advanced' page of the account preferences. > > with regards > > Paul Thanks! -- Respectfully, Denis Shadrin From lane at duphy4.physics.drexel.edu Sun Feb 11 23:42:55 2018 From: lane at duphy4.physics.drexel.edu (Charles Lane) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 16:42:55 -0600 Subject: [Users] imap TLS 'user certificate' problems Message-ID: <20180211164255.6b67b32c@wombat5> This *isn't* a claws-mail bug, but it showed up while trying to have claws-mail present a user-certificate to a Dovecot server. (this is the certificate you put in the mailer config in the "TLS/SSL" page). I got a certificate and private key in a .pem file; worked fine with s_client; but handshake failed with claws. After much bug tracking with claws-mail --debug, setting the env value GNUTLS_DEBUG_LEVEL, and gdb, it turns out to be a problem in libetpan when working with gnuTLS >2.12. With a minor fix to libetpan, now things work, at least for .pem certificates. My next step is to send a patch to the person in charge of libetpan. -- Chuck Lane Drexel Univ. =]--p-|<≡π*π*π*~ν~~~ν~~~ν~~~ν FNAL x5484 \-µ-µ-µ-[*e] lane at duphy4.physics.drexel.edu From kardan at riseup.net Mon Feb 12 10:46:42 2018 From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 10:46:42 +0100 Subject: [Users] claws checks disabled accounts Message-ID: <20180212104642.5e00ad60@riseup.net> Hi, i have several deactivated accounts but from time to time I am asked to approve a new TLS certificate for one of them. However this account should not be checked at all because the (first) "G" column in the account list is not checked. How can I make sure, claws does not check it without deleting the account? Thanks, kardan From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 12 10:56:13 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 09:56:13 +0000 Subject: [Users] claws checks disabled accounts In-Reply-To: <20180212104642.5e00ad60@riseup.net> References: <20180212104642.5e00ad60@riseup.net> Message-ID: <20180212095613.20757f1b@kujata> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 10:46:42 +0100 kardan wrote: > i have several deactivated accounts but from time to time I am > asked to approve a new TLS certificate for one of them. However > this account should not be checked at all because the (first) "G" > column in the account list is not checked. How can I make sure, > claws does not check it without deleting the account? When does it check them, when you click the 'get all' button? with regards Paul From kardan at riseup.net Mon Feb 12 11:12:08 2018 From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 11:12:08 +0100 Subject: [Users] claws checks disabled accounts In-Reply-To: <20180212095613.20757f1b@kujata> References: <20180212104642.5e00ad60@riseup.net> <20180212095613.20757f1b@kujata> Message-ID: <20180212111208.6d200174@riseup.net> Hi Paul, > > i have several deactivated accounts but from time to time I am > > asked to approve a new TLS certificate for one of them. However > > this account should not be checked at all because the (first) "G" > > column in the account list is not checked. How can I make sure, > > claws does not check it without deleting the account? > > When does it check them, when you click the 'get all' button? It's a bit tricky and do not get it yet. Just now I was asked again for the certificate, which I declined. Now pressing Ctrl+i or Ctrl+Shift+i does not check the account in question again. Do you have an idea how this is possible? Kardan From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 12 12:08:17 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 11:08:17 +0000 Subject: [Users] claws checks disabled accounts In-Reply-To: <20180212111208.6d200174@riseup.net> References: <20180212104642.5e00ad60@riseup.net> <20180212095613.20757f1b@kujata> <20180212111208.6d200174@riseup.net> Message-ID: <20180212110817.60e35651@kujata> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 11:12:08 +0100 kardan wrote: > Do you have an idea how this is possible? Not yet. Is this an IMAP account? Have a look at, or share, the --debug output and things might become clearer. with regards Paul From kardan at riseup.net Mon Feb 12 12:23:22 2018 From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 12:23:22 +0100 Subject: [Users] claws checks disabled accounts In-Reply-To: <20180212110817.60e35651@kujata> References: <20180212104642.5e00ad60@riseup.net> <20180212095613.20757f1b@kujata> <20180212111208.6d200174@riseup.net> <20180212110817.60e35651@kujata> Message-ID: <20180212122322.13105a43@riseup.net> Am Mon, 12 Feb 2018 11:08:17 +0000 schrieb Paul : > On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 11:12:08 +0100 > kardan wrote: > > > Do you have an idea how this is possible? > > Not yet. Is this an IMAP account? Have a look at, or share, the > --debug output and things might become clearer. Yes, IMAP. I just found out that folders of this account were checked for synchronization when I saw "folder X wants sync" in the log. I am not sure if synchronization should be applied for disabled accounts. There might be cases but for me it was confusing. Thanks for the fast hint! Kardan From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 12 12:44:52 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 11:44:52 +0000 Subject: [Users] claws checks disabled accounts In-Reply-To: <20180212122322.13105a43@riseup.net> References: <20180212104642.5e00ad60@riseup.net> <20180212095613.20757f1b@kujata> <20180212111208.6d200174@riseup.net> <20180212110817.60e35651@kujata> <20180212122322.13105a43@riseup.net> Message-ID: <20180212114452.4333a225@kujata> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 12:23:22 +0100 kardan wrote: > I am not sure if synchronization should be applied for disabled > accounts. Maybe this is the source of the confusion. When you untick the G column you are not disabling the accounts, you are just excluding them from being checked when you use 'get all'. with regards Paul From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 13 17:44:56 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 16:44:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3950] marks all emails as "read" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3950 --- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian --- Do you have automatic mail checking enabled? Do you use any filters in Claws Mail? Is this on an IMAP account, or POP3 with a local (MH) mailbox? The only way I see this could happen is that somehow, in all folders of the local mailbox, the .claws_mark file gets deleted. That is the file holding info about message flags, including "new" and "unread" flags. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 13 18:12:13 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 17:12:13 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3950] marks all emails as "read" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3950 --- Comment #3 from wazz at ellijay.com --- IMAP, no filters, no auto check -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 13 23:00:58 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 22:00:58 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3950] marks all emails as "read" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3950 --- Comment #4 from Shai Berger --- (In reply to comment #2) > > The only way I see this could happen is that somehow, in all folders of the > local mailbox, the .claws_mark file gets deleted. That is the file holding > info about message flags, including "new" and "unread" flags. Actually, in my experience, a folder where the .claws_mark file is missing gets all marked unread, not all read. Bug reporter: Do you also access the IMAP account from some other client simultaneously? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 13 23:46:34 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 22:46:34 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3880] GTK theme is applied incorrectly to list of mails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3880 --- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian --- Created attachment 1842 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1842&action=edit A fix Attached patch should solve the issue. I tried with fg (all states) set to red and text (all states) set to green, and everything seems to still work (custom folder colors in folderview, message color flags in summaryview, etc.). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 14 00:00:52 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 23:00:52 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3950] marks all emails as "read" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3950 --- Comment #5 from wazz at ellijay.com --- No, never simultaneously. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From sylpheed at 911networks.com Thu Feb 15 03:31:00 2018 From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 18:31:00 -0800 Subject: [Users] Spell check MIA Message-ID: <20180214183100.5568e936@frogguski.sritch.com> CM 3.16.0 on manjaro I've been using CM for about 8 years, but now the spell-check has disappeared. How can I track down what happened? $ pacman -Q enchant enchant 2.2.1-1 $ pacman -Q aspell aspell 0.60.6.1-5 Spell check was working fine just a few days ago. So obviously I did something, just don't know what... Thanks -- sknahT vyS From silver.bullet at zoho.com Thu Feb 15 09:10:41 2018 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 09:10:41 +0100 Subject: [Users] Spell check MIA In-Reply-To: <20180214183100.5568e936@frogguski.sritch.com> References: <20180214183100.5568e936@frogguski.sritch.com> Message-ID: <20180215091041.32eca747@utnubu> On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 18:31:00 -0800, sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote: >CM 3.16.0 on manjaro > >I've been using CM for about 8 years, but now the spell-check has >disappeared. How can I track down what happened? > >$ pacman -Q enchant >enchant 2.2.1-1 >$ pacman -Q aspell >aspell 0.60.6.1-5 > >Spell check was working fine just a few days ago. So obviously I did >something, just don't know what... http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2018-January/020780.html http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2018-February/020841.html From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 15 12:16:08 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 11:16:08 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3962] New: Please secure this website Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3962 Bug ID: 3962 Summary: Please secure this website Classification: Unclassified Product: Website Version: unspecified Hardware: PC OS: All Status: NEW Severity: major Priority: P3 Component: General Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com The site is with very weak security overall: https://securityheaders.io/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thewildbeast.co.uk&followRedirects=on -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 15 12:18:51 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 11:18:51 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3963] New: claws-mail: Popup notifications not working Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3963 Bug ID: 3963 Summary: claws-mail: Popup notifications not working Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.16.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/Notification Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com Created attachment 1843 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1843&action=edit preferences STR: 1. Enable the notification plugin: Configuration->Plugins->Load->notification.so 2. In preferences enable Popups (see screenshot) EXPECTED When new mail arrives a popup notification should appear, as shown here: http://www.claws-mail.org/plugin.php?plugin=notification ACTUAL Popup does not appear. Testing in KDE Plasma. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 15 12:22:10 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 11:22:10 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3964] New: Attachment icon doesn't show in message list unless the message is clicked Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3964 Bug ID: 3964 Summary: Attachment icon doesn't show in message list unless the message is clicked Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.16.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: major Priority: P3 Component: UI/Message List Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com STR: 1. Open a mail folder (not INBOX) containing a message with attachment EXPECTED There icon for attachment should appear left of the message to show that there is an attachment. ACTUAL The icon appears only after the message is clicked. After navigating to another folder and returning to the previous one the icon is still there. After restarting claws-mail the icon is gone again. In INBOX everything seems to work as expected. Testing with a Gmail account without synchronizing folders for offline use, configured as per http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Using_Claws_with_Gmail -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 15 12:24:25 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 11:24:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3965] New: Hover tooltips appear blank (or with wrong foreground/background) Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3965 Bug ID: 3965 Summary: Hover tooltips appear blank (or with wrong foreground/background) Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.16.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com Created attachment 1844 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1844&action=edit screenshot STR: 1. Open a mail folder in claws-mail 2. Hover over a message in the list or over a button in the menu EXPECTED The tooltip should be readable ACTUAL The tooltip is not readable (looks like the foreground and background merge into the same light gray color) Additional info: tried installing also theme 'breeze' from http://www.claws-mail.org/themes.php but that didn't improve anything. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 15 12:37:14 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 11:37:14 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3963] claws-mail: Popup notifications not working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3963 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME --- Comment #1 from Paul --- In kde plasma the pretty popup is not possible, but (if you have libnotify installed) you will get a simple text popup. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 15 12:38:07 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 11:38:07 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3965] Hover tooltips appear blank (or with wrong foreground/background) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3965 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #1 from Paul --- Fixed in git very recently. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 15 12:43:26 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 11:43:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3964] Attachment icon doesn't show in message list unless the message is clicked In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3964 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE --- Comment #1 from Paul --- *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 3307 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 15 12:43:26 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 11:43:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3307] Attachment icon displays only after message viewed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3307 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |removed-gdpr at example.com --- Comment #2 from Paul --- *** Bug 3964 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 15 12:55:32 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 11:55:32 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3962] Please secure this website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3962 --- Comment #1 from Removed after GDPR request --- How come security is a minor issue on a site with a login form? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 15 13:10:12 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 12:10:12 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3962] Please secure this website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3962 --- Comment #2 from Paul --- we're not taking any personal details. All bug comments are publicly visible. https is better, of course, and that will happen at some point, but it is low priority - there's little to protect here. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 15 13:46:52 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 12:46:52 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3880] GTK theme is applied incorrectly to list of mails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3880 Andrej Kacian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #3 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2018-02-14 22:59:04.712209603 +0100 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=dde11a75c75f469eb3bccf139566841844c154f4 Merge: d0cc31b 13d82d6 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Wed Feb 14 22:59:03 2018 +0100 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=13d82d666b2ef07f1ae58ba5c44c889205ced720 Author: Andrej Kacian Date: Tue Feb 13 23:50:15 2018 +0100 Make GtkCMCList/Tree use "text", not "fg" rc property for text color. Closes bug #3880. --- Comment #4 from Andrej Kacian --- Fixed in git. Thanks for bringing this up! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 15 14:21:18 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 13:21:18 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3963] claws-mail: Popup notifications not working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3963 --- Comment #4 from Removed after GDPR request --- Is it possible that I need something else? How can I find out why it is not working? BTW I also tried the option called Command with: notify-send -t 10000 "Claws Mail" "New mail" (just so that I get some notification when new mail arrives) But it doesn't work either. Should that go into a separate bug report? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 15 14:30:52 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 13:30:52 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3963] claws-mail: Popup notifications not working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3963 --- Comment #5 from Paul --- notify-send -t 10000 "Claws Mail" "New mail" works for me also. Seems like you need to look outside of claws-mail for the cause. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 15 17:07:29 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 16:07:29 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3307] Attachment icon displays only after message viewed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3307 --- Comment #3 from Cristian Secară --- Created attachment 1845 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1845&action=edit random attachment icon bug > [...] and it's a design decision rather than a bug. > [...] if the messages are filtered, they will be scanned and display any attachments icons 'immediately'. Not true, or at least it did not work as expected - see attached snapshot where some messages don't show the attachment icon. All messages from the that folder are filtered (moved to it, based on To: field). Cristi -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 15 17:13:29 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 16:13:29 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3307] Attachment icon displays only after message viewed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3307 --- Comment #4 from Paul --- IIRC, the filter must include a full body search. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 15 17:18:52 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 16:18:52 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3307] Attachment icon displays only after message viewed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3307 --- Comment #5 from Cristian Secară --- If so, then why some messages *do* show the attachment icon ? There is no difference between messages in my previously snapshot example – neither in their content, nor in the filtering action that affects them. Cristi -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 15 17:20:56 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 16:20:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3307] Attachment icon displays only after message viewed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3307 --- Comment #6 from Paul --- I don't experience this problem, ever. Trying running with --debug to get some hints to narrow it down. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 15 17:27:07 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 16:27:07 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3964] Attachment icon doesn't show in message list unless the message is clicked In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3964 --- Comment #2 from Cristian Secară --- For the bugged behaviour described here there is a workaround – although it involves some extra work: just move whatever message (any message) from the actual folder to a different folder (any folder) and then put it back => now the attachment icon stays there permanently even after Claws Mail restart. I was forced to do that for all of my folders (and there are a lot) when I switched to Claws Mail and had to import all my messages and folders structure from Sylpheed. BTW this bug affects also the PGP signature icon. Cristi -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 15 17:51:41 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 16:51:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3307] Attachment icon displays only after message viewed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3307 --- Comment #7 from Removed after GDPR request --- Please note that in my bug report (3964) I noticed that in INBOX the icons seem to show correctly (as expected). They don't show in other Gmail folders though. Not sure if this is helpful in any way. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 15 21:31:26 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 20:31:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3966] New: Folders can't be opened/viewed during mail checking Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3966 Bug ID: 3966 Summary: Folders can't be opened/viewed during mail checking Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.16.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Message List Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com I have a Gmail box with 100+ folders (some with quite a few messages). Clicking "Get Mail" takes a while and during this process if I click on any folder - I can't see the messages in it. All I see is just the mouse cursor waiting for the update to finish. This practically freezes the whole process of working with the program during the sync. Would it be possible to make claws-mail to allow browsing the folders during sync with the mail server? GNOME Evolution can do that and it simply shows the newly arrived messages after the sync completes. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 15 21:17:17 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 20:17:17 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3307] Attachment icon displays only after message viewed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3307 --- Comment #9 from Removed after GDPR request --- I am testing with a Gmail account without synchronizing folders for offline use. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 09:57:56 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 10:57:56 +0200 Subject: [Users] Popup notifications not working Message-ID: Hi, Recently I opened a bug report about this but as Paul explained it works for him: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3963 Unfortunately I am unable to find the cause why it doesn't work for me. Can someone please help me to find the reason and hopefully fix it? In case this matters this is on openSUSE Leap 42.3, KDE Plasma desktop (using kdm). -- George From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 10:05:34 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 11:05:34 +0200 Subject: [Users] Clicking a link in claws-mail opens it in default browser after a very long wait Message-ID: Hi, I am experiencing this issue on openSUSE Leap 42.3 (using KDE Plasma desktop). When I click a link in a mail message it opens after 20-30 seconds (or more) in the default browser (Chromium). Has anyone any idea if this is a bug or how to fix this? -- George From andrej at kacian.sk Fri Feb 16 10:13:09 2018 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 10:13:09 +0100 Subject: [Users] Clicking a link in claws-mail opens it in default browser after a very long wait In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180216101309.6d4954dd.andrej@kacian.sk> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 11:05:34 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > Hi, > > I am experiencing this issue on openSUSE Leap 42.3 (using KDE Plasma > desktop). When I click a link in a mail message it opens after 20-30 > seconds (or more) in the default browser (Chromium). > > Has anyone any idea if this is a bug or how to fix this? Try running claws-mail in a termina with --debug option, and observe what happens when you click on a link. Most likely it runs the browser via the xdg-open program, which you can simulate on your own outside of Claws Mail and figure out why it takes so long. Regards, -- Andrej Kacian From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 16 10:15:41 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 09:15:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3967] New: Links containing Cyrillic characters are not highlighted properly Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3967 Bug ID: 3967 Summary: Links containing Cyrillic characters are not highlighted properly Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.16.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Message View Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com Created attachment 1846 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1846&action=edit screenshot If there is a link in the message body which contains params with Cyrillic letters it is not highlighted as a whole link but only partially (till the first Cyrillic letter). Please check attached screenshot. Looking at the same message in Gmail's UI I see the link highlighted properly. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 16 10:47:33 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 09:47:33 +0000 Subject: [Users] Popup notifications not working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180216094733.0a7396d7@kujata> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 10:57:56 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > In case this matters this is on openSUSE Leap 42.3, KDE Plasma > desktop (using kdm). What version of kde plasma? with regards Paul From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 16 10:48:58 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 09:48:58 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3967] Links containing Cyrillic characters are not highlighted properly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3967 --- Comment #1 from Paul --- Attach an example message if you can - much more useful than a screenshot alone. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 16 11:18:57 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 10:18:57 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3967] Links containing Cyrillic characters are not highlighted properly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3967 --- Comment #2 from Cristian Secară --- Created attachment 1847 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1847&action=edit non-ASCII url bug This bug seems to be related to all (?) non-ASCII characters, not only Cyrillic and is present since ever both in Claws Mail and Sylpheed. I assume there were previous reports on this (for sure it was for Sylpheed), but never addressed. My signature shows always broken and it uses only Latin characters – see attached snapshot. Cristi -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 16 11:25:47 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 10:25:47 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3967] Links containing Cyrillic characters are not highlighted properly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3967 --- Comment #3 from Removed after GDPR request --- Created attachment 1848 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1848&action=edit test message Attaching a sample message exported from claws-mail (with private info sanitized) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 11:30:45 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 12:30:45 +0200 Subject: [Users] Clicking a link in claws-mail opens it in default browser after a very long wait In-Reply-To: <20180216101309.6d4954dd.andrej@kacian.sk> References: <20180216101309.6d4954dd.andrej@kacian.sk> Message-ID: Thanks Andrej, It seems indeed the culprit is xdg-open as it takes too long. I have just shared my findings in the bug report on openSUSE which I had open: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1080766#c7 -- George From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 11:36:52 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 12:36:52 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to insert signature above the original (quoted) message when replying? Message-ID: I can't find a way to do this. Is it possible in claws-mail? -- George From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 11:43:43 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 12:43:43 +0200 Subject: [Users] Popup notifications not working In-Reply-To: <20180216094733.0a7396d7@kujata> References: <20180216094733.0a7396d7@kujata> Message-ID: > What version of kde plasma? 5.8.7 -- George From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 16 11:48:16 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 10:48:16 +0000 Subject: [Users] How to insert signature above the original (quoted) message when replying? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180216104816.6dc1e56c@kujata> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 12:36:52 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > I can't find a way to do this. > Is it possible in claws-mail? Yes. Modify your Templates. Top-posting is bad, but if you want to do that you can. Disable 'Automatically insert signature' in the Compose page of the Account prefs and instead use something like the following somewhere in your Templates: |file{/full/path/to/signature/file} Templates can be configured on the Templates page of the Account preferences. These can be overridden by the Templates in the folder Properties. with regards Paul From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 16 11:58:18 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 10:58:18 +0000 Subject: [Users] Popup notifications not working In-Reply-To: References: <20180216094733.0a7396d7@kujata> Message-ID: <20180216105818.63a9d9a0@kujata> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 12:43:43 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > > What version of kde plasma? > > 5.8.7 5.11.5 here, that could be the reason it works for me and fails for you. with regards Paul From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 12:24:51 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 13:24:51 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to insert signature above the original (quoted) message when replying? In-Reply-To: <20180216104816.6dc1e56c@kujata> References: <20180216104816.6dc1e56c@kujata> Message-ID: Great. Thanks Paul! > Top-posting is bad Why? George From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 12:45:08 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 13:45:08 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to hide sender IP address and host name? Message-ID: Hi, I notice that when sending emails through an email client like claws-mail the email headers contain the sender IP address and the host name (which is in /etc/hosts). I don't want to send that info to the receiver because I don't think it is their business to know that and it is not related to the essence of the email communication. I have read people saying that it is possible to use Tor network for sending emails but it is not recommended because the delivery becomes unreliable (Tor hosts may be blacklisted for spam etc). So that is not an option obviously. When sending through mail provider's web interface there is no issue (this info is not sent) but I am looking for a way to do it without having to use web interfaces, i.e. through an email client. Is that possible? -- George From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 16 12:54:23 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 11:54:23 +0000 Subject: [Users] How to insert signature above the original (quoted) message when replying? In-Reply-To: References: <20180216104816.6dc1e56c@kujata> Message-ID: <20180216115423.16bcb389@kujata> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 13:24:51 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > Why? Here's the standard response to that question: A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? with regards Paul From rol at witbe.net Fri Feb 16 12:55:19 2018 From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=)) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 12:55:19 +0100 Subject: [Users] How to hide sender IP address and host name? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180216125519.749092fc@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Hello, On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 13:45:08 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > When sending through mail provider's web interface there is no issue > (this info is not sent) Plain wrong, I know of some WebMail providers that are maintaining this informations to allow recipient to do some checks if they have a doubt... Paul -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 16 12:56:25 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 11:56:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] How to hide sender IP address and host name? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180216115625.2d3c36f5@kujata> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 13:45:08 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > When sending through mail provider's web interface there is no issue > (this info is not sent) but I am looking for a way to do it without > having to use web interfaces, i.e. through an email client. > > Is that possible? The info is sent when using webmail, only the IP number is their IP number and not yours. You can use the 'Domain name' option on the 'Advanced' page of the Account preferences to give a false host name. with regards Paul From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 16 13:14:44 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 12:14:44 +0000 Subject: [Users] How to hide sender IP address and host name? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180216121444.08558f77@kujata> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 13:45:08 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > When sending through mail provider's web interface there is no issue > (this info is not sent) but I am looking for a way to do it without > having to use web interfaces, i.e. through an email client. You use gmail, so some would argue that you left your privacy concerns at the door anyway. with regards Paul From dave at howorth.org.uk Fri Feb 16 13:38:12 2018 From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 12:38:12 +0000 Subject: [Users] Clicking a link in claws-mail opens it in default browser after a very long wait In-Reply-To: References: <20180216101309.6d4954dd.andrej@kacian.sk> Message-ID: <20180216123812.161f42e6@acer-suse.lan> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 12:30:45 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > Thanks Andrej, > > It seems indeed the culprit is xdg-open as it takes too long. I have > just shared my findings in the bug report on openSUSE which I had > open: > > https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1080766#c7 Perhaps you should go to the openSUSE forum to get help in tracking down exactly what the problem is. From rhutter at posteo.de Fri Feb 16 13:49:21 2018 From: rhutter at posteo.de (Ralf Hutter) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 13:49:21 +0100 Subject: [Users] How to insert signature above the original (quoted) message when replying? In-Reply-To: <20180216104816.6dc1e56c@kujata> References: <20180216104816.6dc1e56c@kujata> Message-ID: <20180216134921.1d79bd45@Trisdesk> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 10:48:16 +0000 Paul wrote: > On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 12:36:52 +0200 > Removed GDPR wrote: > > > I can't find a way to do this. > > Is it possible in claws-mail? > > Yes. Modify your Templates. > > Top-posting is bad, but if you want to do that you can. > > Disable 'Automatically insert signature' in the Compose page of > the Account prefs and instead use something like the following > somewhere in your Templates: > > |file{/full/path/to/signature/file} > > Templates can be configured on the Templates page of the > Account preferences. > > These can be overridden by the Templates in the folder Properties. > > with regards > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users But now you get to a problem: I find it practical that i can switch between different accounts in the Compose window and Claws inserts the corresponding signature. If i disable that, i can, via templates, program the signature to be anywhere i like in responses, but lack the other feature in any mails i compose directly. If i don't disable it, there would be two signatures in every response. Isn't is possible to distinguish between: Automatically insert signature in Compose Mail / Responses / Forwarded Mail? Ralf -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 473 bytes Desc: not available URL: From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 15:20:18 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:20:18 +0200 Subject: [Users] Clicking a link in claws-mail opens it in default browser after a very long wait In-Reply-To: <20180216123812.161f42e6@acer-suse.lan> References: <20180216101309.6d4954dd.andrej@kacian.sk> <20180216123812.161f42e6@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: > Perhaps you should go to the openSUSE forum to get help in tracking > down exactly what the problem is. Perhaps. But from openSUSE's bugzilla it seems the package maintainers will look into it. From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 15:21:52 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:21:52 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to insert signature above the original (quoted) message when replying? In-Reply-To: <20180216115423.16bcb389@kujata> References: <20180216104816.6dc1e56c@kujata> <20180216115423.16bcb389@kujata> Message-ID: I am not sure I understand correctly what you mean by top-posting. Could you clarify please? Other than that: I think it is natural to read the reply first and have the rest (previous reply) just as a reference. Also after the reply is finished, naturally a signature would indicate that. No? The other option would be to first scroll down through older text (which not only I have read but also written) just to find the new info after it. If you have any other view I would be open to hear it. I am open to learn about any good practices about email structuring etc. From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 15:22:20 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:22:20 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to hide sender IP address and host name? In-Reply-To: <20180216125519.749092fc@riri.DEF.witbe.net> References: <20180216125519.749092fc@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Message-ID: > Plain wrong, I know of some WebMail providers that are maintaining > this informations to allow recipient to do some checks if they have a > doubt... Well, at least Gmail and Yahoo don't do it. No idea about others. (of course G. and Y. have other much more serious privacy issues but that's another story) From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 15:22:30 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:22:30 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to hide sender IP address and host name? In-Reply-To: <20180216115625.2d3c36f5@kujata> References: <20180216115625.2d3c36f5@kujata> Message-ID: > The info is sent when using webmail, only the IP number is their IP > number and not yours. I know that. I guess for the sake of clarity I need to ask then: How to send email without revealing the sender's IP address? Is it possible for example for the client and/or server to be configured in a way which sends only the IP address of the server but not that of the actual computer from which the message is sent? (I suppose Gmail is doing something like that) > You can use the 'Domain name' option on the 'Advanced' page of the > Account preferences to give a false host name. That works for the host name, thanks! From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 15:22:39 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:22:39 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to hide sender IP address and host name? In-Reply-To: <20180216121444.08558f77@kujata> References: <20180216121444.08558f77@kujata> Message-ID: > You use gmail, so some would argue that you left your privacy > concerns at the door anyway. I am currently looking for alternatives actually, so this is part of a bigger reaserch :) Unfortunately I can't find a single online service provider who can guarantee me that their systems are clean from proprietary malware (like Intel ME, proprietary BIOS etc) and without that merely migrating to yet another "owned" system hardly makes any sense. Can you recommend anything along these lines? Otherwise with end-to-end encryption one can pipe through any server I guess and it wouldn't really matter who the carrier is. BTW, as a side note, I would rather assume that Google have done a much better job regarding cleaning their systems than most others: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iffTJ1vPCSo But again - that is a separate discussion I suppose. The question how to hide the sender's IP address from the receiver (not from the server) still remains. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 16 15:31:02 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 14:31:02 +0000 Subject: [Users] How to hide sender IP address and host name? In-Reply-To: References: <20180216115625.2d3c36f5@kujata> Message-ID: <20180216143102.1585b634@kujata> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:22:30 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > I know that. I guess for the sake of clarity I need to ask then: > How to send email without revealing the sender's IP address? Is it > possible for example for the client and/or server to be configured > in a way which sends only the IP address of the server but not that > of the actual computer from which the message is sent? (I suppose > Gmail is doing something like that) It's the server that adds that header. Nothing the client can do about it. with regards Paul From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 15:38:04 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:38:04 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to hide sender IP address and host name? In-Reply-To: <20180216143102.1585b634@kujata> References: <20180216115625.2d3c36f5@kujata> <20180216143102.1585b634@kujata> Message-ID: > It's the server that adds that header. Nothing the client can do > about it. Thanks for clarifying. Is there any requirement (e.g. by some technological standard) that the original sender's IP address must be in the headers or that is simply a configuration up to the sysadmin who does configures the SMTP server? And along these lines: are you aware of any mail service providers which don't reveal the sender's IP address? From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 16 15:55:28 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 14:55:28 +0000 Subject: [Users] How to hide sender IP address and host name? In-Reply-To: References: <20180216115625.2d3c36f5@kujata> <20180216143102.1585b634@kujata> Message-ID: <20180216145528.36172cf3@kujata> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:38:04 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > Is there any requirement (e.g. by some technological standard) that > the original sender's IP address must be in the headers or that is > simply a configuration up to the sysadmin who does configures the > SMTP server? postfix can be configured to anonymise them, for example. with regards Paul From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 16 15:59:21 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 14:59:21 +0000 Subject: [Users] How to insert signature above the original (quoted) message when replying? In-Reply-To: References: <20180216104816.6dc1e56c@kujata> <20180216115423.16bcb389@kujata> Message-ID: <20180216145921.0ae5df08@kujata> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:21:52 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > I am not sure I understand correctly what you mean by top-posting. > Could you clarify please? I gave the top-posting example. Here is the same example but reversed to demonstrate bottom-posting: Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? A: Top-posting. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. I'm not sure how to make it any clearer. > The other option would be to first scroll down through older text > (which not only I have read but also written) just to find the new > info after it. In Claws Mail you can collapse quotes by default, toggling their collapsed/expanded state with a double-click. That's another option. It does rely on correspondants using the standard quote symbol (>) though. with regards Paul From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 16:12:24 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 17:12:24 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to insert signature above the original (quoted) message when replying? In-Reply-To: <20180216145921.0ae5df08@kujata> References: <20180216104816.6dc1e56c@kujata> <20180216115423.16bcb389@kujata> <20180216145921.0ae5df08@kujata> Message-ID: > I'm not sure how to make it any clearer. Got it. Thanks! > > The other option would be to first scroll down through older text > > (which not only I have read but also written) just to find the new > > info after it. > > In Claws Mail you can collapse quotes by default, toggling their > collapsed/expanded state with a double-click. That's another option. > It does rely on correspondants using the standard quote symbol (>) > though. Claws Mail is fantastic of course. But on the other side of the wire not everyone has it, so the issue with scrolling down to find the actual reply is still relevant I guess. From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 16:12:47 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 17:12:47 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to hide sender IP address and host name? In-Reply-To: <20180216145528.36172cf3@kujata> References: <20180216115625.2d3c36f5@kujata> <20180216143102.1585b634@kujata> <20180216145528.36172cf3@kujata> Message-ID: > postfix can be configured to anonymise them, for example. Learn about this, I must :P Thanks! :) From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 16 16:17:02 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 15:17:02 +0000 Subject: [Users] How to insert signature above the original (quoted) message when replying? In-Reply-To: References: <20180216104816.6dc1e56c@kujata> <20180216115423.16bcb389@kujata> <20180216145921.0ae5df08@kujata> Message-ID: <20180216151702.7273c893@kujata> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 17:12:24 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > Claws Mail is fantastic of course. But on the other side of the wire > not everyone has it, so the issue with scrolling down to find the > actual reply is still relevant I guess. Not really. You're using the gmail web interface to post but the quote collapsing still works fine for your messages. with regards Paul From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 16 16:22:24 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 15:22:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] How to insert signature above the original (quoted) message when replying? In-Reply-To: <20180216151702.7273c893@kujata> References: <20180216104816.6dc1e56c@kujata> <20180216115423.16bcb389@kujata> <20180216145921.0ae5df08@kujata> <20180216151702.7273c893@kujata> Message-ID: <20180216152224.1756fde3@kujata> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 15:17:02 +0000 Paul wrote: > On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 17:12:24 +0200 > Removed GDPR wrote: > > > Claws Mail is fantastic of course. But on the other side of the > > wire not everyone has it, so the issue with scrolling down to > > find the actual reply is still relevant I guess. > > Not really. You're using the gmail web interface to post but the > quote collapsing still works fine for your messages. Or maybe you meant people using other clients scrolling down to find your reply.... I find myself scrolling a lot more with stuck-in-the-mud top-posters, who don't understand (or bother with) replying inline, just to try to work out which part of my message their vague words could be referring to. with regards Paul From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 16:39:20 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 17:39:20 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to insert signature above the original (quoted) message when replying? In-Reply-To: <20180216152224.1756fde3@kujata> References: <20180216104816.6dc1e56c@kujata> <20180216115423.16bcb389@kujata> <20180216145921.0ae5df08@kujata> <20180216151702.7273c893@kujata> <20180216152224.1756fde3@kujata> Message-ID: > > Not really. You're using the gmail web interface to post but the > > quote collapsing still works fine for your messages. Generally: 1. I type my message in Claws Mail 2. I save it (which puts it in Drafts) 3. I send it through Gmail's web interface (which I run in pure HTML, without JS) to avoid sharing the IP address of the sen > Or maybe you meant people using other clients scrolling down to find > your reply.... That. It is a basic usability principle to put the most important information at the most visible place. In the case of a message that would mean: put the actual message on top, don't bury it under piles of other info. > I find myself scrolling a lot more with stuck-in-the-mud top-posters, > who don't understand (or bother with) replying inline, just to try to > work out which part of my message their vague words could be > referring to. I hope I am not one of them :) From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 16:43:03 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 17:43:03 +0200 Subject: [Users] Popup notifications not working In-Reply-To: <20180216105818.63a9d9a0@kujata> References: <20180216094733.0a7396d7@kujata> <20180216105818.63a9d9a0@kujata> Message-ID: How can I investigate this further please? From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 16 16:56:27 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 15:56:27 +0000 Subject: [Users] How to insert signature above the original (quoted) message when replying? In-Reply-To: References: <20180216104816.6dc1e56c@kujata> <20180216115423.16bcb389@kujata> <20180216145921.0ae5df08@kujata> <20180216151702.7273c893@kujata> <20180216152224.1756fde3@kujata> Message-ID: <20180216155627.7e6ba210@kujata> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 17:39:20 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > It is a basic usability principle In my experience, these same people quote everything, and keep on quoting everything with each reply, so you end up with a large message consisting of 90% junk. with regards Paul From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 17:05:37 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:05:37 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to insert signature above the original (quoted) message when replying? In-Reply-To: <20180216155627.7e6ba210@kujata> References: <20180216104816.6dc1e56c@kujata> <20180216115423.16bcb389@kujata> <20180216145921.0ae5df08@kujata> <20180216151702.7273c893@kujata> <20180216152224.1756fde3@kujata> <20180216155627.7e6ba210@kujata> Message-ID: > In my experience, these same people quote everything, and keep on > quoting everything with each reply, so you end up with a large > message consisting of 90% junk. True. Perhaps that is to a great extent because of how the default (web) mail clients are made to work. I am happy to have found claws! From slitt at troubleshooters.com Fri Feb 16 16:53:43 2018 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 10:53:43 -0500 Subject: [Users] Clicking a link in claws-mail opens it in default browser after a very long wait In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180216105343.6f0ef94a@mydesk.domain.cxm> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 11:05:34 +0200, Removed GDPR wrote: > Hi, > > I am experiencing this issue on openSUSE Leap 42.3 (using KDE Plasma > desktop). When I click a link in a mail message it opens after 20-30 > seconds (or more) in the default browser (Chromium). > > Has anyone any idea if this is a bug or how to fix this? > > -- > George > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users Hi George, I assume what you want to correct is the 20 to 30 seconds. First of all, keep in mind that KDE is huge, bloated, entangled, very dependent on dbus. You're running KDE on top of kdm. Such a setup is expected to perform considerably more slowly than, let's say, LXDE running straight from startx. Does "considerably" mean 20-30 seconds? That remains to be seen. Your computer could have gotten itself in a state. Perform a top command, and see if any processes are hogging most/all CPU or RAM. If so, kill them. If not, power cycle the machine to get rid of any state, and see if it still has this delay. The other thing is, we have no idea what kind of hardware is running this. If you have a 1.5GHz CPU with 2GB RAM, 20-30 seconds is completely expected, at least when you run Chromium the first time. SteveT From mir at miras.org Fri Feb 16 17:08:29 2018 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 17:08:29 +0100 Subject: [Users] How to insert signature above the original (quoted) message when replying? In-Reply-To: References: <20180216104816.6dc1e56c@kujata> <20180216115423.16bcb389@kujata> <20180216145921.0ae5df08@kujata> <20180216151702.7273c893@kujata> <20180216152224.1756fde3@kujata> <20180216155627.7e6ba210@kujata> Message-ID: <20180216170829.76c9b18e@sleipner.datanom.net> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:05:37 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > > True. Perhaps that is to a great extent because of how the default > (web) mail clients are made to work. > Add MS Outlook to the wall of shame! -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: I am a bookaholic. If you are a decent person, you will not sell me another book. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 488 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 17:14:53 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:14:53 +0200 Subject: [Users] What does "Keep old items" do? (RSS feed properties) Message-ID: I can't seem to find documentation about it. From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 17:14:40 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:14:40 +0200 Subject: [Users] How can I import Google calendars into Claws Mail? Message-ID: Is that even possible? GNOME Evolution seems capable of even syncing those. I wonder if Claws can do anything like it. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 16 17:22:33 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:22:33 +0000 Subject: [Users] What does "Keep old items" do? (RSS feed properties) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180216162233.022020a1@kujata> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:14:53 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > I can't seem to find documentation about it. A server might restrict its rss fee to 20 items, removing old items as new items are added. This option will keep all the old entries, regardless of what's happening on the server. with regards Paul From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 16 17:27:39 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:27:39 +0000 Subject: [Users] How can I import Google calendars into Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180216162739.122dbaaa@kujata> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:14:40 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > How can I import Google calendars into Claws Mail? > > Is that even possible? No, it's not possible. There's an old RFE for that: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2251 Patches welcome! with regards Paul From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 17:33:44 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:33:44 +0200 Subject: [Users] Clicking a link in claws-mail opens it in default browser after a very long wait In-Reply-To: <20180216105343.6f0ef94a@mydesk.domain.cxm> References: <20180216105343.6f0ef94a@mydesk.domain.cxm> Message-ID: Hi Steve, > I assume what you want to correct is the 20 to 30 seconds. Yes. It is actually more than a minute in my latest test. > Your computer could have gotten itself in a state. Perform a top > command, and see if any processes are hogging most/all CPU or RAM. If > so, kill them. If not, power cycle the machine to get rid of any > state, and see if it still has this delay. No, the system is fine. Not overloaded at all. There CPU is not busy and there is plenty of free RAM. No issues with any other programs either. I can still work in various other programs (including the browser itself) without problems while waiting for the clicked link to open. > The other thing is, we have no idea what kind of hardware is running > this. If you have a 1.5GHz CPU with 2GB RAM, 20-30 seconds is > completely expected, at least when you run Chromium the first time. I am testing this on a good desktop machine (3.4Ghz, 32GB RAM, OS on SSD). Everything flies, really. 20-30s (or even 5s) is totally unacceptable for such system. It is not the browser being started or not either, I notice it happening in both cases without any difference. From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 17:42:00 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:42:00 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to insert signature above the original (quoted) message when replying? In-Reply-To: <20180216170829.76c9b18e@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20180216104816.6dc1e56c@kujata> <20180216115423.16bcb389@kujata> <20180216145921.0ae5df08@kujata> <20180216151702.7273c893@kujata> <20180216152224.1756fde3@kujata> <20180216155627.7e6ba210@kujata> <20180216170829.76c9b18e@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: > Add MS Outlook to the wall of shame! The last time I touched this program was 10+ years ago at the office of my ex employer on a computer of a colleague (we were discussing some emails). I have never used it myself and never even considered it. From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 17:42:09 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:42:09 +0200 Subject: [Users] How can I import Google calendars into Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <20180216162739.122dbaaa@kujata> References: <20180216162739.122dbaaa@kujata> Message-ID: Thanks Paul. I hope some day it will be. From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 17:42:17 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:42:17 +0200 Subject: [Users] What does "Keep old items" do? (RSS feed properties) In-Reply-To: <20180216162233.022020a1@kujata> References: <20180216162233.022020a1@kujata> Message-ID: Thank you! From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 17:44:57 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:44:57 +0200 Subject: [Users] Is it possible to see the number of messages in an email thread? Message-ID: Subject From ticho at claws-mail.org Fri Feb 16 17:48:56 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 17:48:56 +0100 Subject: [Users] What does "Keep old items" do? (RSS feed properties) In-Reply-To: <20180216162233.022020a1@kujata> References: <20180216162233.022020a1@kujata> Message-ID: <20180216174856.320f439e@penny> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:22:33 +0000 Paul wrote: > On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:14:53 +0200 > Removed GDPR wrote: > > > I can't seem to find documentation about it. > > A server might restrict its rss fee to 20 items, removing old items > as new items are added. This option will keep all the old entries, > regardless of what's happening on the server. I guess we could add a tooltip to that checkbox explaining what exactly "old" means in this context. :) Regards, -- Andrej From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 17:53:40 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:53:40 +0200 Subject: [Users] What does "Keep old items" do? (RSS feed properties) In-Reply-To: <20180216174856.320f439e@penny> References: <20180216162233.022020a1@kujata> <20180216174856.320f439e@penny> Message-ID: > I guess we could add a tooltip to that checkbox explaining what > exactly "old" means in this context. :) That would be great! From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 18:00:17 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 19:00:17 +0200 Subject: [Users] What does "Keep old items" do? (RSS feed properties) In-Reply-To: <20180216162233.022020a1@kujata> References: <20180216162233.022020a1@kujata> Message-ID: Is there a way to toggle it for all feeds at once? From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 16 18:10:57 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 17:10:57 +0000 Subject: [Users] Is it possible to see the number of messages in an email thread? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180216171057.1182e1f4@kujata> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:44:57 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > Subject Click on a message in the thread, use /File/Select Thread, and then look at the panel between message list and message body where it says 'n items selected'. with regards Paul From h.m.brand at xs4all.nl Fri Feb 16 18:23:54 2018 From: h.m.brand at xs4all.nl (H.Merijn Brand) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:23:54 +0100 Subject: [Users] Clicking a link in claws-mail opens it in default browser after a very long wait In-Reply-To: <20180216105343.6f0ef94a@mydesk.domain.cxm> References: <20180216105343.6f0ef94a@mydesk.domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20180216182354.311bb1df@pc09.procura.nl> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 10:53:43 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > First of all, keep in mind that KDE is huge, bloated, entangled, very > dependent on dbus. You're running KDE on top of kdm. Such a setup is > expected to perform considerably more slowly than, let's say, LXDE > running straight from startx. Does "considerably" mean 20-30 seconds? > That remains to be seen. Hmm, sounds like someone *not* using KDE/Plasma with a grunge against it Once a WM is running, it does its job. Having to wait 1 second on an action to complete is way less than every day spending 15 seconds on finding hidden features in Gnome^W(fill in the WM you hate most) sixty times a day. Please don't judge someone on selecting a WM. He/she will pick the one that most appeals to their flow of work. And when using the right tools, the fun returns in using the tools and work suddenly becomes a whole lot more efficient. If KDE/KWM/Plasma is the desktop of choice, it might be not your choice, but it works. And remember: it is software, and *all* software is bloated, as it is created to serve a wider public than just you. *I* e.g. don't care at all about availability of translations in Russian/Chinese/Slovac/(fill in a random language that you don't speak), but I do value the time and effort spent by people making the product more usable for other users. LXDE might be less bloated, but that does not make it the ideal WM for everyone. And when using emacs there, it will be just as slow and bloated as when running under KDE. Sorry, emacs isn't bloated, it just offers tons of features *I* don't find usable. So much for bloated. /me runs plasma5 and does *not* experience 20-30 seconds delays -- H.Merijn Brand http://tux.nl Perl Monger http://amsterdam.pm.org/ using perl5.00307 .. 5.27 porting perl5 on HP-UX, AIX, and openSUSE http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/ http://www.test-smoke.org/ http://qa.perl.org http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 473 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From h.m.brand at xs4all.nl Fri Feb 16 18:27:20 2018 From: h.m.brand at xs4all.nl (H.Merijn Brand) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:27:20 +0100 Subject: [Users] How to insert signature above the original (quoted) message when replying? In-Reply-To: <20180216155627.7e6ba210@kujata> References: <20180216104816.6dc1e56c@kujata> <20180216115423.16bcb389@kujata> <20180216145921.0ae5df08@kujata> <20180216151702.7273c893@kujata> <20180216152224.1756fde3@kujata> <20180216155627.7e6ba210@kujata> Message-ID: <20180216182720.338189d7@pc09.procura.nl> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 15:56:27 +0000, Paul wrote: > On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 17:39:20 +0200 > Removed GDPR wrote: > > > It is a basic usability principle > > In my experience, these same people quote everything, and keep on > quoting everything with each reply, so you end up with a large > message consisting of 90% junk. What about those people failing to strip signatures and (company) logo's? Sometimes I am included in long mail exchanges where - no kidding - 30 company logo's are still attached (plus of course all the small icons that they want in their signatures for e-mail, facebook, twitter and other channels their company wants you to contact then through. It is hopeless: M$-Outlook encourages this behaviour (and the useless use of HTML mail) -- H.Merijn Brand http://tux.nl Perl Monger http://amsterdam.pm.org/ using perl5.00307 .. 5.27 porting perl5 on HP-UX, AIX, and openSUSE http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/ http://www.test-smoke.org/ http://qa.perl.org http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 473 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From slitt at troubleshooters.com Fri Feb 16 19:27:08 2018 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 13:27:08 -0500 Subject: [Users] Clicking a link in claws-mail opens it in default browser after a very long wait In-Reply-To: References: <20180216105343.6f0ef94a@mydesk.domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20180216132708.1e0b9f25@mydesk.domain.cxm> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:33:44 +0200, Removed GDPR wrote: > Hi Steve, > > > I assume what you want to correct is the 20 to 30 seconds. > > Yes. It is actually more than a minute in my latest test. > > > Your computer could have gotten itself in a state. Perform a top > > command, and see if any processes are hogging most/all CPU or RAM. > > If so, kill them. If not, power cycle the machine to get rid of any > > state, and see if it still has this delay. > > No, the system is fine. Not overloaded at all. There CPU is not busy > and there is plenty of free RAM. No issues with any other programs > either. I can still work in various other programs (including the > browser itself) without problems while waiting for the clicked link to > open. > > > The other thing is, we have no idea what kind of hardware is running > > this. If you have a 1.5GHz CPU with 2GB RAM, 20-30 seconds is > > completely expected, at least when you run Chromium the first > > time. > > I am testing this on a good desktop machine (3.4Ghz, 32GB RAM, > OS on SSD). Everything flies, really. 20-30s (or even 5s) is totally > unacceptable for such system. It is not the browser being started or > not either, I notice it happening in both cases without any > difference. Hi George, Next step: Several times under varying conditions, start chromium from the command prompt and see if the delay is in the same neighborhood. If it is, you've ruled out Claws. If it's not, see what command Claws really runs when spawning Chromium, and try *that* on the command prompt. Either way, look at the command line output of the Chromium you ran from the command prompt, to see if there's anything suspicious. SteveT From dave at howorth.org.uk Fri Feb 16 22:40:30 2018 From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 21:40:30 +0000 Subject: [Users] Clicking a link in claws-mail opens it in default browser after a very long wait In-Reply-To: References: <20180216101309.6d4954dd.andrej@kacian.sk> <20180216123812.161f42e6@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: <20180216214030.777dad9c@acer-suse.lan> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:20:18 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > > Perhaps you should go to the openSUSE forum to get help in tracking > > down exactly what the problem is. > > Perhaps. But from openSUSE's bugzilla it seems the package maintainers > will look into it. It doesn't look that way to me; that's why I suggested going to the forum for some help. Just like the claws bugzilla isn't for discussion, neither is the opensuse bugzilla intended for that. From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 23:36:47 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 00:36:47 +0200 Subject: [Users] Clicking a link in claws-mail opens it in default browser after a very long wait In-Reply-To: <20180216132708.1e0b9f25@mydesk.domain.cxm> References: <20180216105343.6f0ef94a@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20180216132708.1e0b9f25@mydesk.domain.cxm> Message-ID: > Next step: Several times under varying conditions, start chromium from > the command prompt and see if the delay is in the same neighborhood. > If it is, you've ruled out Claws. If it's not, see what command Claws > really runs when spawning Chromium, and try *that* on the command > prompt. Either way, look at the command line output of the Chromium > you ran from the command prompt, to see if there's anything > suspicious. There is no issue with starting Chromium and there has never been (under any conditions). Also the delay happens regardless if Chromium is running or not when the link is clicked. I tried what you suggest (running chromium from console) and then in another console: ----- [~]: time xdg-open https://opensuse.org real 1m42.716s user 0m0.141s sys 0m0.041s ----- Upon opening of the URL in Chromium (after the delay) nothing shows in the first console. All I see when Chromium is started from console is: ----- [5364:5393:0217/002917.705535:ERROR:nss_util.cc(724)] After loading Root Certs, loaded==false: NSS error code: -8018 [5364:5364:0217/002917.715892:ERROR:configuration_policy_handler_list.cc(92)] Unknown policy: NTPContentSuggestionsEnabled [1:18:0217/002920.641622:ERROR:adm_helpers.cc(73)] Failed to query stereo recording. ----- but that is before running xdg-open. From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 23:37:01 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 00:37:01 +0200 Subject: [Users] Is it possible to see the number of messages in an email thread? In-Reply-To: <20180216171057.1182e1f4@kujata> References: <20180216171057.1182e1f4@kujata> Message-ID: > Click on a message in the thread, use /File/Select Thread I am doing it but there is no "Select Thread" in the File menu. From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 23:37:10 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 00:37:10 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to insert signature above the original (quoted) message when replying? In-Reply-To: <20180216182720.338189d7@pc09.procura.nl> References: <20180216104816.6dc1e56c@kujata> <20180216115423.16bcb389@kujata> <20180216145921.0ae5df08@kujata> <20180216151702.7273c893@kujata> <20180216152224.1756fde3@kujata> <20180216155627.7e6ba210@kujata> <20180216182720.338189d7@pc09.procura.nl> Message-ID: > What about those people failing to strip signatures and (company) > logo's? Perhaps we can call this "recepient abuse" :) From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 16 23:37:23 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 00:37:23 +0200 Subject: [Users] Clicking a link in claws-mail opens it in default browser after a very long wait In-Reply-To: <20180216214030.777dad9c@acer-suse.lan> References: <20180216101309.6d4954dd.andrej@kacian.sk> <20180216123812.161f42e6@acer-suse.lan> <20180216214030.777dad9c@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: > It doesn't look that way to me; that's why I suggested going to the > forum for some help. Just like the claws bugzilla isn't for > discussion, neither is the opensuse bugzilla intended for that. It is an actual bug report, not a discussion. Why would you say that? Also there are quite a few people in the CC list. Why doesn't that look like they would pay attention? Anyway I have opened a thread in the forum too. It won't hurt to follow your ad From pf at pfortin.com Fri Feb 16 23:54:35 2018 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 17:54:35 -0500 Subject: [Users] List server: bad DKIM? Message-ID: <20180216175435.0d1817fd@pfortin.com> Hi, Did something change on the list server recently? With the list more active lately, I've noticed that I'm seeing replies to messages I haven't seen. Tracked this down to my MTA (luxsci.com) deleting messages with DKIM issues. Rather than delete, I've changed the MTA action to modify the message by adding "DKIM" in the Subject and it's now passing more list messages with DKIM in the subject. Strangely, some messages pass the DKIM test while others don't... Is the list server's DKIM failing? Pierre From pf at pfortin.com Fri Feb 16 23:56:33 2018 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 17:56:33 -0500 Subject: [Users] Is it possible to see the number of messages in an email thread? In-Reply-To: References: <20180216171057.1182e1f4@kujata> Message-ID: <20180216175633.37b7f446@pfortin.com> On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 00:37:01 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: >> Click on a message in the thread, use /File/Select Thread > >I am doing it but there is no "Select Thread" in the File menu. It's in the Edit menu. From removed-gdpr at example.com Sat Feb 17 00:10:02 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 01:10:02 +0200 Subject: [Users] Is it possible to see the number of messages in an email thread? In-Reply-To: <20180216175633.37b7f446@pfortin.com> References: <20180216171057.1182e1f4@kujata> <20180216175633.37b7f446@pfortin.com> Message-ID: > It's in the Edit menu. Thanks! From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 17 00:46:12 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 23:46:12 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3969] New: Key combinations don't work with NumPad keys Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3969 Bug ID: 3969 Summary: Key combinations don't work with NumPad keys Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.16.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Other Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com I noticed that shortcuts like Shift+* or Ctrl+1 don't work if I use NumPad keys but only with top row keys. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 17 11:35:24 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 10:35:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3969] Key combinations don't work with NumPad keys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3969 --- Comment #1 from Paul --- They do work, but visually (the text on the menu item) they look identical to each other, but they are not. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 17 12:26:04 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 11:26:04 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3969] Key combinations don't work with NumPad keys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3969 --- Comment #2 from Removed after GDPR request --- This is difficult to understand. Are you saying that the actual bug is: "Ctrl + 1" (visually in the menu) is ambiguous with "Ctrt + 1 (top row key)" and "Ctrl + 1 (numpad key)"? I.e. that the visualization of the key combination should be fixed? If yes - is it possible to unify/separate the two? (or have an explicit preference for it) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From removed-gdpr at example.com Sat Feb 17 17:06:01 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 18:06:01 +0200 Subject: [Users] How do I search inside message source? Message-ID: When I open the message source I can't see an option to search inside the displayed text. Is that possible or should it be requested as a feature? -- George From removed-gdpr at example.com Sat Feb 17 18:19:40 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:19:40 +0200 Subject: [Users] How can I display latest messages without auto selecting one of them? Message-ID: My question is related to this bug report: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3968 In '/Configuration/Preferences/Display/Summaries/default selection when entering a folder' I had to set 'last email in the list' so that the message list is auto scrolled to display the latest emails. But that also automatically selects (and marks as read) the latest message in the folder. Considering this is marked as invalid bug, how can I do the same but without auto selecting the latest message in the folder? Is that possible at all? An example scenario in which I see this useful is to simply click on folders to have a quick look but read the actual unread messages later. Auto marking them (currently) creates the need to mark them again as unread which is inconvenient. From removed-gdpr at example.com Sat Feb 17 18:52:50 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:52:50 +0200 Subject: [Users] Which files from ~/.claws-mail should be backed up? Message-ID: And which ones are not necessary for a recovery? (e.g. caches or anything else that is temporary or is anyway retrieved during next mail or RSS sync) From ticho at claws-mail.org Sat Feb 17 19:10:23 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:10:23 +0100 Subject: [Users] How can I display latest messages without auto selecting one of them? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180217191023.57975c0e@penny> On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:19:40 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > Considering this is marked as invalid bug, how can I do the same but > without auto selecting the latest message in the folder? Is that > possible at all? If you have a recent enough version (at least 3.15.0, I think), you'll find what you need on Summaries page in preferences. Regards, -- Andrej From removed-gdpr at example.com Sat Feb 17 19:27:22 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 20:27:22 +0200 Subject: [Users] How can I display latest messages without auto selecting one of them? In-Reply-To: <20180217191023.57975c0e@penny> References: <20180217191023.57975c0e@penny> Message-ID: > If you have a recent enough version (at least 3.15.0, I think), you'll > find what you need on Summaries page in preferences. Could you please point me to the specific setting which does what I am looking for? I am having difficulty to spot it (using 3.16.0) From marco at marvil07.net Sat Feb 17 19:50:26 2018 From: marco at marvil07.net (Marco Villegas) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 13:50:26 -0500 Subject: [Users] How do I search inside message source? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180217185036.C7F342100484@mx.colino.net> George, A work-around: use the "Open with" or copy/paste and use any editor with search feature. On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 18:06:01 +0200 George wrote: > When I open the message source I can't see an option to search inside > the displayed text. > > Is that possible or should it be requested as a feature? > > -- > George > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users Best, From ticho at claws-mail.org Sat Feb 17 20:12:19 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 20:12:19 +0100 Subject: [Users] How can I display latest messages without auto selecting one of them? In-Reply-To: References: <20180217191023.57975c0e@penny> Message-ID: <20180217201219.3719dd6f@penny> On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 20:27:22 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > > If you have a recent enough version (at least 3.15.0, I think), you'll > > find what you need on Summaries page in preferences. > > Could you please point me to the specific setting which does what I am > looking for? I am having difficulty to spot it (using 3.16.0) There' an "Open message when selected" frame with a bunch of checkboxes. They control after which actions a selected message also gets opened. Regards, -- Andrej From epodata at gmail.com Sat Feb 17 21:46:36 2018 From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 21:46:36 +0100 Subject: [Users] How do I search inside message source? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180217214636.44c8436d@Erik-PC.epolan.dk> On 2018-02-17 at 18:06:01 Removed GDPR wrote: > When I open the message source I can't see an option to search inside > the displayed text. Edit -> Find in current message -- Erik From dave at howorth.org.uk Sat Feb 17 22:09:25 2018 From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 21:09:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] How do I search inside message source? In-Reply-To: <20180217214636.44c8436d@Erik-PC.epolan.dk> References: <20180217214636.44c8436d@Erik-PC.epolan.dk> Message-ID: <20180217210925.1d144e6b@acer-suse.lan> On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 21:46:36 +0100 "Erik P. Olsen" wrote: > On 2018-02-17 at 18:06:01 Removed GDPR wrote: > > > When I open the message source I can't see an option to search > > inside the displayed text. > > Edit -> Find in current message That doesn't work. Specifically, I opened the source of the message I am replying to, then selected Edit/Find in current message and searched for 'score' and got 'Search string not found'. But the word is clearly there in the headers. From removed-gdpr at example.com Sat Feb 17 22:28:18 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 23:28:18 +0200 Subject: [Users] How do I search inside message source? In-Reply-To: <20180217185036.C7F342100484@mx.colino.net> References: <20180217185036.C7F342100484@mx.colino.net> Message-ID: > A work-around: use the "Open with" or copy/paste and use any editor > with search feature. Thanks, Marco. I guess this rather makes it a candidate for a feature request? From removed-gdpr at example.com Sat Feb 17 22:28:44 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 23:28:44 +0200 Subject: [Users] How can I display latest messages without auto selecting one of them? In-Reply-To: <20180217201219.3719dd6f@penny> References: <20180217191023.57975c0e@penny> <20180217201219.3719dd6f@penny> Message-ID: > There' an "Open message when selected" frame with a bunch of > checkboxes. They control after which actions a selected message also > gets opened. Thanks. I unchecked "When opening a folder". That still highlights the message in the list but doesn't mark it as read. Is there a way not to highlight it at all (but still auto-scroll the list to the latest one)? From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 17 22:42:28 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 21:42:28 +0000 Subject: [Users] How can I display latest messages without auto selecting one of them? In-Reply-To: References: <20180217191023.57975c0e@penny> <20180217201219.3719dd6f@penny> Message-ID: <20180217214228.1fac132a@kujata> On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 23:28:44 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > Is there a way not to highlight it at all (but still auto-scroll the > list to the latest one)? What practical difference would that make? with regards Paul From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 17 22:53:08 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 21:53:08 +0000 Subject: [Users] How do I search inside message source? In-Reply-To: References: <20180217185036.C7F342100484@mx.colino.net> Message-ID: <20180217215308.5b1535dd@kujata> On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 23:28:18 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > Thanks, Marco. I guess this rather makes it a candidate for a > feature request? Not really. You have the Actions feature for things like this. /Configuration/Actions Just create a 'shell command' type of Action, with Menu Name: Open with/kate Command: kate -n %f& To use it go to /Tools/Actions/Open with/kate You can assign a hotkey combo to it if you want. with regards Paul From pf at pfortin.com Sat Feb 17 23:07:02 2018 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 17:07:02 -0500 Subject: [Users] DKIM Signature issues [Was: List server: bad DKIM?] In-Reply-To: <20180216175435.0d1817fd@pfortin.com> References: <20180216175435.0d1817fd@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20180217170702.7fc3cb01@pfortin.com> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 17:54:35 -0500 I wrote: >Hi, > >Did something change on the list server recently? > >With the list more active lately, I've noticed that I'm seeing replies >to messages I haven't seen. Tracked this down to my MTA (luxsci.com) >deleting messages with DKIM issues. Rather than delete, I've changed the >MTA action to modify the message by adding "DKIM" in the Subject and it's >now passing more list messages with DKIM in the subject. Strangely, >some messages pass the DKIM test while others don't... Changed: removed DKIM from subject; now, it adds a custom header which CM uses to color messages with bad DKIM signatures. >Is the list server's DKIM failing? Nope; problem is mainly GMail; it generates bad DKIM signatures. Reported the following to Google at https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!forum/gmail ------------------ I receive emails from a list server (lists.claws-mail.org). I've noticed that recently, some messages are replies to messages I've never seen. Finally tracked this down to DKIM signature failures in emails originating from: *@gmail.com, *@invalid.tld(passes through gmail.com(d=1e100.net;) servers) There may be others; but these are the most obvious so far... PS The "required" categories are useless for this report because I'm reporting DKIM failures on messages FROM GMail. ------------------- Removed GDPR : your messages contain Google DKIM Signatures; does this seem right to you? Steve Litt : Your DKIM Signature is not affected by Google; but for some reason, it is being flagged with: DKIM_SIGNED,T_DKIM_INVALID,URIBL_BLOCKED so my MTA was discarding them. HTH Pierre From removed-gdpr at example.com Sat Feb 17 23:08:02 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:08:02 +0200 Subject: [Users] Popup notifications not working In-Reply-To: <20180216105818.63a9d9a0@kujata> References: <20180216094733.0a7396d7@kujata> <20180216105818.63a9d9a0@kujata> Message-ID: Absolutely strange! I have just seen a popup for the first time ever! (the same one which I configured to be send using notify-send) No settings changed regarding notifications at all. Any idea what may be going on? From removed-gdpr at example.com Sat Feb 17 23:32:23 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:32:23 +0200 Subject: [Users] How do I search inside message source? In-Reply-To: <20180217215308.5b1535dd@kujata> References: <20180217185036.C7F342100484@mx.colino.net> <20180217215308.5b1535dd@kujata> Message-ID: Thanks Paul! In my case I used command: kwrite %f& Q: Would it be more correct to use: kwrite --tempfile %f& > You can assign a hotkey combo to it if you want. How can I do that please? From removed-gdpr at example.com Sat Feb 17 23:32:56 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:32:56 +0200 Subject: [Users] How can I display latest messages without auto selecting one of them? In-Reply-To: <20180217214228.1fac132a@kujata> References: <20180217191023.57975c0e@penny> <20180217201219.3719dd6f@penny> <20180217214228.1fac132a@kujata> Message-ID: > What practical difference would that make? When a message is highlighted: 1) it is visually not quite straightforward to distinguish whether it is automatically marked as read or not (there is additional 1-2 seconds needed to realize what is actually happening). 2) naturally one would associate highlighting with marking as read as in the majority of programs this seems to be the common thing. So I would say it would be a UX improvement. From removed-gdpr at example.com Sat Feb 17 23:34:08 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:34:08 +0200 Subject: [Users] DKIM Signature issues [Was: List server: bad DKIM?] In-Reply-To: <20180217170702.7fc3cb01@pfortin.com> References: <20180216175435.0d1817fd@pfortin.com> <20180217170702.7fc3cb01@pfortin.com> Message-ID: > your messages contain Google DKIM Signatures; does this seem right to > you? Yes. I am (still) using Google Apps and mail is handled by Gmail. https://toolbox.googleapps.com/apps/checkmx/check?domain=invalid.tld&dkim_selector= What is the exact problem you are facing? I can't see your *.google.com link (I have JS disabled). From ticho at claws-mail.org Sat Feb 17 23:35:18 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 23:35:18 +0100 Subject: [Users] Popup notifications not working In-Reply-To: References: <20180216094733.0a7396d7@kujata> <20180216105818.63a9d9a0@kujata> Message-ID: <20180217233518.32aa2540@penny> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:08:02 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > Absolutely strange! > > I have just seen a popup for the first time ever! (the same one which I > configured to be send using notify-send) > > No settings changed regarding notifications at all. > > Any idea what may be going on? No idea, but running in a terminal with --debug might give some clues. Or it might not. -- Andrej From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 17 23:36:59 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 22:36:59 +0000 Subject: [Users] How do I search inside message source? In-Reply-To: References: <20180217185036.C7F342100484@mx.colino.net> <20180217215308.5b1535dd@kujata> Message-ID: <20180217223659.4857c05b@kujata> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:32:23 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > How can I do that please? http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Interface#How_can_I_change_the_key-bindings_.28hot-keys.29_in_Claws_Mail.3F with regards Paul From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 17 23:41:10 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 22:41:10 +0000 Subject: [Users] How can I display latest messages without auto selecting one of them? In-Reply-To: References: <20180217191023.57975c0e@penny> <20180217201219.3719dd6f@penny> <20180217214228.1fac132a@kujata> Message-ID: <20180217224110.1efb4d56@kujata> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:32:56 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > 1) it is visually not quite straightforward to distinguish whether > it is automatically marked as read or not (there is additional 1-2 > seconds needed to realize what is actually happening). It does what you chose in those options you recently learnt about. Maybe you need to add the S(tatus) column to the msg list. Normally it would not take 2 seconds to see an envelope icon or the lack of one. > 2) naturally one would associate highlighting with marking as read > as in the majority of programs this seems to be the common thing. See previous answer. with regards Paul From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 17 23:54:16 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 22:54:16 +0000 Subject: [Users] Popup notifications not working In-Reply-To: References: <20180216094733.0a7396d7@kujata> <20180216105818.63a9d9a0@kujata> Message-ID: <20180217225416.0766fd48@kujata> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:08:02 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > Any idea what may be going on? I read somewhere about a bug with send-notify and/or the notification daemon. Seems fixed in my version of KDE, maybe you need to upgrade KDE as the quickest route to the fix. with regards Paul From edodd55 at gmail.com Sun Feb 18 00:01:17 2018 From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 10:01:17 +1100 Subject: [Users] How to insert signature above the original (quoted) message when replying? In-Reply-To: <20180216155627.7e6ba210@kujata> References: <20180216104816.6dc1e56c@kujata> <20180216115423.16bcb389@kujata> <20180216145921.0ae5df08@kujata> <20180216151702.7273c893@kujata> <20180216152224.1756fde3@kujata> <20180216155627.7e6ba210@kujata> Message-ID: <20180218100117.41d6b550.edodd55@gmail.com> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 15:56:27 +0000 Paul wrote: > > It is a basic usability principle > > In my experience, these same people quote everything, and keep on > quoting everything with each reply, so you end up with a large > message consisting of 90% junk. Agreed. Webmail interfaces tend to make this very hard, which is why so many people don't trim out unnecessary junk. Liz From edodd55 at gmail.com Sun Feb 18 00:05:04 2018 From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 10:05:04 +1100 Subject: [Users] How to hide sender IP address and host name? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180218100504.2cc6d146.edodd55@gmail.com> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 13:45:08 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > Hi, > > I notice that when sending emails through an email client like > claws-mail the email headers contain the sender IP address and the > host name (which is in /etc/hosts). I don't want to send that info to > the receiver because I don't think it is their business to know that > and it is not related to the essence of the email communication. Within your emails the sender address and the IP address so that the mail will pass a number of spam filters. While you consider it unwarranted disclosure, others require it to allow the email to pass. Liz From flyingrhino at orcon.net.nz Sun Feb 18 00:20:35 2018 From: flyingrhino at orcon.net.nz (flyingrhino) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 12:20:35 +1300 Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?q?How_to_insert_signature_above_the_original_=28q?= =?utf-8?q?uoted=29_message_when_replying=3F?= In-Reply-To: <20180216104816.6dc1e56c@kujata> References: <20180216104816.6dc1e56c@kujata> Message-ID: > > Top-posting is bad, but if you want to do that you can. Tell that to the 99.999999% of the sheeple who consume technology blindly without a clue of how it is meant to be used. From pf at pfortin.com Sun Feb 18 00:27:16 2018 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 18:27:16 -0500 Subject: [Users] DKIM Signature issues [Was: List server: bad DKIM?] In-Reply-To: References: <20180216175435.0d1817fd@pfortin.com> <20180217170702.7fc3cb01@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20180217182716.3779fee4@pfortin.com> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:34:08 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: >> your messages contain Google DKIM Signatures; does this seem right to >> you? > >Yes. I am (still) using Google Apps and mail is handled by Gmail. > >https://toolbox.googleapps.com/apps/checkmx/check?domain=invalid.tld&dkim_selector= > >What is the exact problem you are facing? My MTA was set to discard messages with bad DKIM Signatures. Recently noticed missing messages from this list (responses to messages I never saw). Looks like anyone posting here via GMail has a bad DKIM Sig. I've changed my MTA's (luxsci.com) DKIM rule to simply add a new header and let the messages through. >I can't see your *.google.com link (I have JS disabled). It's just a link to the bug report I posted to GMail (included in previous message). Just giving a heads up in case others are missing messages from GMail users. I missed a lot of messages here because of this. Also reported to luxsci.com -- those guys are awesome in getting issues resolved; so hoping to know more soon... Pierre From removed-gdpr at example.com Sun Feb 18 01:28:07 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 02:28:07 +0200 Subject: [Users] Popup notifications not working In-Reply-To: <20180217225416.0766fd48@kujata> References: <20180216094733.0a7396d7@kujata> <20180216105818.63a9d9a0@kujata> <20180217225416.0766fd48@kujata> Message-ID: I experienced only 2 popup notifications. Nothing since then. > I read somewhere about a bug with send-notify and/or the notification > daemon. Seems fixed in my version of KDE, maybe you need to upgrade > KDE as the quickest route to the fix. Thanks for the info. I am using the latest one from the official repos. Perhaps it would be upgraded with Leap 15. From removed-gdpr at example.com Sun Feb 18 01:28:17 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 02:28:17 +0200 Subject: [Users] How do I search inside message source? In-Reply-To: <20180217223659.4857c05b@kujata> References: <20180217185036.C7F342100484@mx.colino.net> <20180217215308.5b1535dd@kujata> <20180217223659.4857c05b@kujata> Message-ID: Thanks I will read that. From removed-gdpr at example.com Sun Feb 18 01:28:36 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 02:28:36 +0200 Subject: [Users] How can I display latest messages without auto selecting one of them? In-Reply-To: <20180217224110.1efb4d56@kujata> References: <20180217191023.57975c0e@penny> <20180217201219.3719dd6f@penny> <20180217214228.1fac132a@kujata> <20180217224110.1efb4d56@kujata> Message-ID: Well, I am not arguing but really: in which of the attached examples is it easier to spot the unread message? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: current.png Type: image/png Size: 32527 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: proposed.png Type: image/png Size: 33654 bytes Desc: not available URL: From removed-gdpr at example.com Sun Feb 18 01:29:42 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 02:29:42 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to hide sender IP address and host name? In-Reply-To: <20180218100504.2cc6d146.edodd55@gmail.com> References: <20180218100504.2cc6d146.edodd55@gmail.com> Message-ID: > Within your emails the sender address and the IP address so that the > mail will pass a number of spam filters. > While you consider it unwarranted disclosure, others require it to > allow the email to pass. But the mail passes based on MX, SPF (whitelisting server IP address) and DKIM, not based on the personal IP address of the mail client (which doesn't exist in the server or domain configuration). From removed-gdpr at example.com Sun Feb 18 01:30:00 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 02:30:00 +0200 Subject: [Users] DKIM Signature issues [Was: List server: bad DKIM?] In-Reply-To: <20180217182716.3779fee4@pfortin.com> References: <20180216175435.0d1817fd@pfortin.com> <20180217170702.7fc3cb01@pfortin.com> <20180217182716.3779fee4@pfortin.com> Message-ID: My DKIM is set correctly. I don't know why it should be treated as "bad". Everyone has been receiving my emails correctly for years. -- George From lists at lazygranch.com Sun Feb 18 02:04:17 2018 From: lists at lazygranch.com (lists at lazygranch.com) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 17:04:17 -0800 Subject: [Users] DKIM Signature issues [Was: List server: bad DKIM?] In-Reply-To: References: <20180216175435.0d1817fd@pfortin.com> <20180217170702.7fc3cb01@pfortin.com> <20180217182716.3779fee4@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20180217170417.40fd3853.lists@lazygranch.com> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 02:30:00 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > My DKIM is set correctly. I don't know why it should be treated > as "bad". Everyone has been receiving my emails correctly for years. > > -- > George > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list Here is what I have for your header (sanitized). Try http://dkimvalidator.com/ Received-SPF: Pass (sender SPF authorized) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=212.83.157.151; helo=mx.colino.net; envelope-from=users-bounces at lists.claws-mail.org; receiver=lists at example.com DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 www.example.com F1A2769BE9 Authentication-Results: centos-1gb-sfo1-01; dmarc=fail (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=invalid.tld Authentication-Results: centos-1gb-sfo1-01; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=users-bounces at lists.claws-mail.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 www.example.com F1A2769BE9 Authentication-Results: www.example.com; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key) header.d=invalid.tld header.i=@invalid.tld header.b="jMs72D5j" Received: from mx.colino.net (srv.colino.net [212.83.157.151]) From pf at pfortin.com Sun Feb 18 02:19:42 2018 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 20:19:42 -0500 Subject: [Users] DKIM Signature issues [Was: List server: bad DKIM?] In-Reply-To: References: <20180216175435.0d1817fd@pfortin.com> <20180217170702.7fc3cb01@pfortin.com> <20180217182716.3779fee4@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20180217201942.2ec50a63@pfortin.com> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 02:30:00 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: >My DKIM is set correctly. I don't know why it should be treated >as "bad". Everyone has been receiving my emails correctly for years. I don't either; but here's what's in the message you just sent... DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=invalid.tld; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=g83YXMYYNsl1eJK4+bXsGC8brqDhgiF7NKjYOBtU7bc=; b=jMs72D5jD6xLID/x8OE5JbltsRXx6EZrUqv1kO8JKH+qpLy3N84LShzth4cL/p2F2R ELvwj0fqRZacLUETBfdx7uu/QbhBG1c5IU9k3pOqOtUWNzsfrf9DyX194zeOW0G9npNG lPo2v6YUsU/Pvvfz86136Rz2t7wEy4QR1irJ0GAGtseKY6+EyVclzXApu/hZwaTD02vb vdOFlP246R848Sr897C03mFFbdeKrT0oXH1pummTivQJte0dj6nZX7jVXWRd2fAkvtg2 YA/ov1YcNAUK4NTm5M/L7RrgAFhvUA2TCyDuraU6ytMXJ+KY3I04UXYvi/7cTpfvAyrP 3Eyw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=g83YXMYYNsl1eJK4+bXsGC8brqDhgiF7NKjYOBtU7bc=; b=Pkl1U4Waz8+WLwoknio6BLrUW0jvxm7nRbUFbzKrpEAyycvWk3vKmtLUG72Gw7Qk3H gDReM5g/CL5XUeNokhs7SMv/zf7+6N31f9bKK6Nizfao0gdkhN783Qvig6NepQWDrY9n EyRbJSq3HEK2MPxk5m6iBV3ApLnGWLJ/QHNB/u+1hCXpZQ4kBUB7v6t2amiUye/z18jM mzl87EQip8N2wFSbQKk3EOZyiJP8tmqVpVbsM5tb0sLxAH6P6yG/OBCWZ3DFOcM+sZt8 9UNMxv9Ldnkgkpce5/fNNU3cK1OnNFbR3jtKk7cdFn1ifVjlaZ7png8daj1wSqdF1m9M XMUA== I presume the first is what you set. Is the 2nd from Google something you'd expect; or are they butting in? I'm learning DKIM on the fly, so any input appreciated... Pierre From lists at lazygranch.com Sun Feb 18 03:08:32 2018 From: lists at lazygranch.com (lists at lazygranch.com) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 18:08:32 -0800 Subject: [Users] DKIM Signature issues [Was: List server: bad DKIM?] In-Reply-To: <20180217201942.2ec50a63@pfortin.com> References: <20180216175435.0d1817fd@pfortin.com> <20180217170702.7fc3cb01@pfortin.com> <20180217182716.3779fee4@pfortin.com> <20180217201942.2ec50a63@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20180217180832.124b68b6.lists@lazygranch.com> On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 20:19:42 -0500 Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 02:30:00 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > > >My DKIM is set correctly. I don't know why it should be treated > >as "bad". Everyone has been receiving my emails correctly for > >years. > > I don't either; but here's what's in the message you just sent... > > DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=invalid.tld; > s=google; > h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; > bh=g83YXMYYNsl1eJK4+bXsGC8brqDhgiF7NKjYOBtU7bc=; > b=jMs72D5jD6xLID/x8OE5JbltsRXx6EZrUqv1kO8JKH+qpLy3N84LShzth4cL/p2F2R > ELvwj0fqRZacLUETBfdx7uu/QbhBG1c5IU9k3pOqOtUWNzsfrf9DyX194zeOW0G9npNG > lPo2v6YUsU/Pvvfz86136Rz2t7wEy4QR1irJ0GAGtseKY6+EyVclzXApu/hZwaTD02vb > vdOFlP246R848Sr897C03mFFbdeKrT0oXH1pummTivQJte0dj6nZX7jVXWRd2fAkvtg2 > YA/ov1YcNAUK4NTm5M/L7RrgAFhvUA2TCyDuraU6ytMXJ+KY3I04UXYvi/7cTpfvAyrP > 3Eyw== > X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; > d=1e100.net; s=20161025; > h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date > :message-id:subject:to; > bh=g83YXMYYNsl1eJK4+bXsGC8brqDhgiF7NKjYOBtU7bc=; > b=Pkl1U4Waz8+WLwoknio6BLrUW0jvxm7nRbUFbzKrpEAyycvWk3vKmtLUG72Gw7Qk3H > gDReM5g/CL5XUeNokhs7SMv/zf7+6N31f9bKK6Nizfao0gdkhN783Qvig6NepQWDrY9n > EyRbJSq3HEK2MPxk5m6iBV3ApLnGWLJ/QHNB/u+1hCXpZQ4kBUB7v6t2amiUye/z18jM > mzl87EQip8N2wFSbQKk3EOZyiJP8tmqVpVbsM5tb0sLxAH6P6yG/OBCWZ3DFOcM+sZt8 > 9UNMxv9Ldnkgkpce5/fNNU3cK1OnNFbR3jtKk7cdFn1ifVjlaZ7png8daj1wSqdF1m9M > XMUA== > > I presume the first is what you set. Is the 2nd from Google something > you'd expect; or are they butting in? > > I'm learning DKIM on the fly, so any input appreciated... > > Pierre > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list Looks like the OP did a relay. That usually is problematic for SPF. I'm not sure about DKIM. Google has a setup for relay on their business email. I just whitelist the one person I know who insists on using a relay. As far as google is concerned, DKIM is good enough for ID. The private key has to be on the server originating the email. There is some nuance where having SPF as well makes is more secure. If you run your own server, it is easy enough to meet both criteria. I'm running the opendmarc milter, but not rejecting anyone. Eventually I may. I noticed most mailing lists fail spf but pass DKIM, and opendmarc is satisfied. Here is the postfix log (sanitized). You can see the claws spf passes. Good enough for me. DKIM passing would verify the content was not altered, but for a mailing list, who cares. ------------- eb 18 01:21:01 centos-1gb-sfo1-01 postfix/smtpd[3630]: connect from srv.colino.net[212.83.157.151] Feb 18 01:21:01 centos-1gb-sfo1-01 postfix/smtpd[3630]: Anonymous TLS connection established from srv.colino.net[212.83.157.151]: TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits) Feb 18 01:21:03 centos-1gb-sfo1-01 policyd-spf[3638]: spfcheck: pyspf result: "['None', '', 'helo']" Feb 18 01:21:03 centos-1gb-sfo1-01 policyd-spf[3638]: None; identity=helo; client-ip=212.83.157.151; helo=mx.colino.net; envelope-from=users-bounces at lists.claws-mail.org; receiver=lists at example.com Feb 18 01:21:03 centos-1gb-sfo1-01 policyd-spf[3638]: spfcheck: pyspf result: "['Pass', 'sender SPF authorized', 'mailfrom']" Feb 18 01:21:03 centos-1gb-sfo1-01 policyd-spf[3638]: Pass; identity=mailfrom; client-ip=212.83.157.151; helo=mx.colino.net; envelope-from=users-bounces at lists.claws-mail.org; receiver=lists at example.com Feb 18 01:21:05 centos-1gb-sfo1-01 postfix/smtpd[3630]: 3007069BE9: client=srv.colino.net[212.83.157.151] Feb 18 01:21:05 centos-1gb-sfo1-01 postfix/cleanup[3639]: 3007069BE9: message-id=<20180217201942.2ec50a63 at pfortin.com> Feb 18 01:21:05 centos-1gb-sfo1-01 opendkim[1143]: 3007069BE9: srv.colino.net [212.83.157.151] not internal Feb 18 01:21:05 centos-1gb-sfo1-01 opendkim[1143]: 3007069BE9: not authenticated Feb 18 01:21:05 centos-1gb-sfo1-01 opendkim[1143]: 3007069BE9: bad signature data Feb 18 01:21:05 centos-1gb-sfo1-01 opendmarc[1140]: 3007069BE9 ignoring Authentication-Results at 2 from www.example.com Feb 18 01:21:05 centos-1gb-sfo1-01 opendmarc[1140]: 3007069BE9 ignoring Authentication-Results at 4 from mx.colino.net Feb 18 01:21:05 centos-1gb-sfo1-01 opendmarc[1140]: 3007069BE9: SPF(mailfrom): users-bounces at lists.claws-mail.org pass Feb 18 01:21:06 centos-1gb-sfo1-01 opendmarc[1140]: 3007069BE9: pfortin.com none Feb 18 01:21:06 centos-1gb-sfo1-01 postfix/qmgr[1276]: 3007069BE9: from=, size=6245, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Feb 18 01:21:06 centos-1gb-sfo1-01 postfix/virtual[3640]: 3007069BE9: to=, relay=virtual, delay=4.1, delays=4.1/0.01/0/0, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to maildir) From pf at pfortin.com Sun Feb 18 06:15:33 2018 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:15:33 -0500 Subject: [Users] List server: bad DKIM? In-Reply-To: <20180216175435.0d1817fd@pfortin.com> References: <20180216175435.0d1817fd@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20180218001533.74681395@pfortin.com> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 17:54:35 -0500 Pierre Fortin wrote: >Hi, > >Did something change on the list server recently? > >With the list more active lately, I've noticed that I'm seeing replies >to messages I haven't seen. Tracked this down to my MTA (luxsci.com) >deleting messages with DKIM issues. Rather than delete, I've changed the >MTA action to modify the message by adding "DKIM" in the Subject and it's >now passing more list messages with DKIM in the subject. Strangely, >some messages pass the DKIM test while others don't... > >Is the list server's DKIM failing? This is getting convoluted; but before going to bed, here's what I've found... I see threads where only Paul's emails appear -- really weird to see lots of answers to questions never seen... :] I can't see those missing messages; but since allowing messages failing DKIM to pass (about 48 hours ago), a pattern is emerging... Every message my provider flags (previously discarded) contains an Authentication-Results header: Received: by mx.colino.net (Postfix, from userid 1024) id 7FAD22100522; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:03:36 +0100 (CET) Authentication-Results: mx.colino.net; dkim=fail reason="verification failed; insecure key" header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=htu2K9Mi; dkim-adsp=none (insecure policy); dkim-atps=neutral Received: from marv.colino.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mx.colino.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F305A2100499; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:01:44 +0100 (CET) while messages that aren't flagged a) do not contain this header, nor DKIM signatures from previous MTAs: Received: by mx.colino.net (Postfix, from userid 1024) id 17B6921004D7; Sat, 17 Feb 2018 22:10:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from marv.colino.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mx.colino.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A863F210049B; Sat, 17 Feb 2018 22:09:31 +0100 (CET) b) have DKIM signatures before arriving at marv.colino.net and a new one gets inserted between marv.colino.net and mx.colino.net: Received: by mx.colino.net (Postfix, from userid 1024) id CEACB21004A4; Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:10:54 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=claws-mail.org; s=mail; t=1518891054; bh=FscXU3w6gLWcDd2bLXeHroxP6fLq5HgHN7D9qA0o8og=; h=Date:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-Id: List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe; b=J41KSmxFTa2rPmpVb+CTsfeZHTm8OiB6utD0IYYk/snvJCYFWH0hzSB4Oug3+P/g8 JPGjM7lPPvr0b/39QTFAZ0HZHYeBcIgxpLCGboRl4+zSm/6AiCZ0JPrq+3qU+ZNQKA 3ZGwhC3rUaQRzY8+9B1CnKfFrucwOYrtcixswLWc= Received: from marv.colino.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mx.colino.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755D8210048A; Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:10:27 +0100 (CET) Questions I hope to dig into in the morning: - colino.net can't sign a message if it doesn't like the prev sig, can it? - Is the preceding DKIM signature really bad, or is colino.net glitchy? - In the case of invalid.tld, is Google inserting signatures in the correct order?: DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=invalid.tld; s=google; v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; - Is colino.net reading these Google signatures correctly? - Is the X-Google-DKIM-Signature included in its DKIM-Signature? - Is colino.net being confused by this dual Google sig? - Other? Those who get up 5-6 hours ahead of me are welcome to add questions, or a fix... :) Hope I didn't screw up in collecting data while groggy... G'nite, Pierre From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 18 09:50:25 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 08:50:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] List server: bad DKIM? In-Reply-To: <20180218001533.74681395@pfortin.com> References: <20180216175435.0d1817fd@pfortin.com> <20180218001533.74681395@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20180218085025.1fc0a166@kujata> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:15:33 -0500 Pierre Fortin wrote: > Those who get up 5-6 hours ahead of me are welcome to add > questions, or a fix... :) Isn't this all getting off-topic now? (Yes, it is!) with regards Paul From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 18 09:53:30 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 08:53:30 +0000 Subject: [Users] How can I display latest messages without auto selecting one of them? In-Reply-To: References: <20180217191023.57975c0e@penny> <20180217201219.3719dd6f@penny> <20180217214228.1fac132a@kujata> <20180217224110.1efb4d56@kujata> Message-ID: <20180218085330.3fe04e27@kujata> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 02:28:36 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > Well, I am not arguing but really: in which of the attached > examples is it easier to spot the unread message? They are both equally easy. If the blue highlighting in your screenshots gives you trouble, change your gtk theme. Or use a Claws Mail theme that produces more readily visible icons. with regards Paul From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 18 10:19:55 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 09:19:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] See the 'FILES' section of `man claws-mail` for brief descriptions of the files. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180218091955.38dd4334@kujata> On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:52:50 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > And which ones are not necessary for a recovery? (e.g. caches or > anything else that is temporary or is anyway retrieved during next > mail or RSS sync) From removed-gdpr at example.com Sun Feb 18 10:42:38 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 11:42:38 +0200 Subject: [Users] DKIM Signature issues [Was: List server: bad DKIM?] In-Reply-To: <20180217170417.40fd3853.lists@lazygranch.com> References: <20180216175435.0d1817fd@pfortin.com> <20180217170702.7fc3cb01@pfortin.com> <20180217182716.3779fee4@pfortin.com> <20180217170417.40fd3853.lists@lazygranch.com> Message-ID: > Authentication-Results: www.example.com; dkim=fail reason="signature > verification failed" (2048-bit key) header.d=invalid.tld > header.i=@invalid.tld header.b="jMs72D5j" Received: from mx.colino.net > (srv.colino.net [212.83.157.151]) > I don't know why signature verification is failing when you test. Here is my test: https://www.mail-tester.com/web-g4gw0 From removed-gdpr at example.com Sun Feb 18 10:43:05 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 11:43:05 +0200 Subject: [Users] List server: bad DKIM? In-Reply-To: <20180218001533.74681395@pfortin.com> References: <20180216175435.0d1817fd@pfortin.com> <20180218001533.74681395@pfortin.com> Message-ID: > - In the case of invalid.tld, is Google inserting signatures in the > correct order?: > DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; > d=invalid.tld; s=google; > v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; As per https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc6376.txt: " Existing standards allow intermediate MTAs to reorder header fields. If a Signer signs two or more header fields of the same name, this can cause spurious verification errors on otherwise legitimate messages. In particular, Signers that sign any existing DKIM- Signature fields run the risk of having messages incorrectly fail to verify." But all that is indeed quite off-topic to claws mail itself. From removed-gdpr at example.com Sun Feb 18 10:43:26 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 11:43:26 +0200 Subject: [Users] How can I display latest messages without auto selecting one of them? In-Reply-To: <20180218085330.3fe04e27@kujata> References: <20180217191023.57975c0e@penny> <20180217201219.3719dd6f@penny> <20180217214228.1fac132a@kujata> <20180217224110.1efb4d56@kujata> <20180218085330.3fe04e27@kujata> Message-ID: > They are both equally easy. Without statistical info based on user feedback, that would need a more careful look I think. In current.png there is a black icon with thin lines on medium dark blue. Definitely not an eye catcher. So the only visual clue is the thickness of the letters (which is a tiny difference with white on blue text) In proposed.png the black icon is on bright background and the bold text is much more readable and instantly pops visually. It also doesn't create the impression that the message is already selected. Normally selected UI elements are a visual clue that the element is being acted upon and in this case it is not. Perhaps if it is not too difficult to implement the proposal it may be worth considering. Up to you of course, it is your program :) > If the blue highlighting in your > screenshots gives you trouble, change your gtk theme. Or use a Claws > Mail theme that produces more readily visible icons. Perhaps changing blue to something lighter would work but then all selection backgrounds would change to that and reduce the way selections contrast currently. From removed-gdpr at example.com Sun Feb 18 10:43:32 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 11:43:32 +0200 Subject: [Users] See the 'FILES' section of `man claws-mail` for brief descriptions of the files. In-Reply-To: <20180218091955.38dd4334@kujata> References: <20180218091955.38dd4334@kujata> Message-ID: Thanks Paul! From ticho at claws-mail.org Sun Feb 18 11:35:57 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 11:35:57 +0100 Subject: [Users] How can I display latest messages without auto selecting one of them? In-Reply-To: References: <20180217191023.57975c0e@penny> <20180217201219.3719dd6f@penny> <20180217214228.1fac132a@kujata> <20180217224110.1efb4d56@kujata> <20180218085330.3fe04e27@kujata> Message-ID: <20180218113557.11a63fa0@penny> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 11:43:26 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > In current.png there is a black icon with thin lines on medium dark > blue. Definitely not an eye catcher. There is your problem. Use a different Claws Mail icon theme, one that has icons which stand out more. I would probably also be confused if I was using the icon theme you are using, why did you select it in the first place? It's not a default icon theme, and for a good reason. Regards, -- Andrej From removed-gdpr at example.com Sun Feb 18 12:20:49 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 13:20:49 +0200 Subject: [Users] How can I display latest messages without auto selecting one of them? In-Reply-To: <20180218113557.11a63fa0@penny> References: <20180217191023.57975c0e@penny> <20180217201219.3719dd6f@penny> <20180217214228.1fac132a@kujata> <20180217224110.1efb4d56@kujata> <20180218085330.3fe04e27@kujata> <20180218113557.11a63fa0@penny> Message-ID: > There is your problem. Use a different Claws Mail icon theme, one that > has icons which stand out more. Hm. You have a point here. Maybe the breeze theme should be improved? In the default one the icon is more visible but still purple on mid-dark blue is not an eye catcher. The other considerations also remain. > why did you select it in the first place? It seemed to have a more seamless UI with KDE Plasma. From ticho at claws-mail.org Sun Feb 18 12:38:30 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 12:38:30 +0100 Subject: [Users] How can I display latest messages without auto selecting one of them? In-Reply-To: References: <20180217191023.57975c0e@penny> <20180217201219.3719dd6f@penny> <20180217214228.1fac132a@kujata> <20180217224110.1efb4d56@kujata> <20180218085330.3fe04e27@kujata> <20180218113557.11a63fa0@penny> Message-ID: <20180218123830.0edf8da4@penny> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 13:20:49 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > > There is your problem. Use a different Claws Mail icon theme, one that > > has icons which stand out more. > > Hm. You have a point here. Maybe the breeze theme should be improved? > > In the default one the icon is more visible but still purple on mid-dark > blue is not an eye catcher. The other considerations also remain. Feel free to get involved, we could always use more icon themes, or improved existing ones. Even the default icon theme might need some refreshing. Note, however, that the cursor color has different colors in different GTK+ themes, where the default blue icon stands out more. > > why did you select it in the first place? > > It seemed to have a more seamless UI with KDE Plasma. Yes, so seamless that you can't see where one element ends and another begins. :) Regards, -- Andrej From pf at pfortin.com Sun Feb 18 13:44:02 2018 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 07:44:02 -0500 Subject: [Users] List server: bad DKIM? In-Reply-To: <20180218085025.1fc0a166@kujata> References: <20180216175435.0d1817fd@pfortin.com> <20180218001533.74681395@pfortin.com> <20180218085025.1fc0a166@kujata> Message-ID: <20180218074402.15ecd254@pfortin.com> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 08:50:25 +0000 Paul wrote: >Isn't this all getting off-topic now? (Yes, it is!) I suppose it is for those who can follow the topics... [Your message is OK] From pf at pfortin.com Sun Feb 18 13:44:05 2018 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 07:44:05 -0500 Subject: [Users] List server: bad DKIM? In-Reply-To: References: <20180216175435.0d1817fd@pfortin.com> <20180218001533.74681395@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20180218074405.53f39802@pfortin.com> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 11:43:05 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: >But all that is indeed quite off-topic to claws mail itself. [This message would not have been seen if DKIM sig blocking was on.] Fine; I'll move the discussion to the CM list server list... Oh wait... there isn't one. Guess I'll file a bug... Hmm... List Server is not an option: From http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi >Claws Mail: >Claws Mail (Windows): >clawsker: >Website: Wouldn't matter anyway since turning bad DKIM sig blocking back on will prevent me from participating. Ironic that the very first DKIM discussion was one George started 4/10/16, and I was the first to help him; but to be fair his was about displaying those headers, while this thread is about even having messages at all to be able to help with. Off topic? Hell, I'm selectively off list... :Pierre From removed-gdpr at example.com Sun Feb 18 13:59:40 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 14:59:40 +0200 Subject: [Users] How can I display latest messages without auto selecting one of them? In-Reply-To: <20180218123830.0edf8da4@penny> References: <20180217191023.57975c0e@penny> <20180217201219.3719dd6f@penny> <20180217214228.1fac132a@kujata> <20180217224110.1efb4d56@kujata> <20180218085330.3fe04e27@kujata> <20180218113557.11a63fa0@penny> <20180218123830.0edf8da4@penny> Message-ID: > Feel free to get involved, we could always use more icon themes, or > improved existing ones. Even the default icon theme might need some > refreshing. I would be glad to. The only issue is physical time. Is there any documentation on how to create/update themes? > Note, however, that the cursor color has different colors in different > GTK+ themes, where the default blue icon stands out more. Noted. Thanks. > Yes, so seamless that you can't see where one element ends and > another begins. :) :) From codejodler at gmx.ch Sun Feb 18 21:08:51 2018 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 21:08:51 +0100 Subject: [Users] Doesnt move all messages In-Reply-To: <20180211083720.3a18218e@penny> References: <20180211073253.65721ded@cd> <20180211083720.3a18218e@penny> Message-ID: <20180218210851.203a91c3@gandalf.lan3> > On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 07:32:53 +0100 > Chris wrote: > > > All, > > > > I'm on Ubuntu using Claws 3.13.2. > > > > When moving a couple of a hundred mails of a mailing list to another > > folder, only about 100 or 200 mails are moved. Claws doesn't crash and > > I don't find any error message in Dovecot log. Then I filter the mails > > again, select all and push Ctrl + O and then again only a part is moved. > > No idea what could be wrong, I can move thousands of messages at once > over here, and I am also using Dovecot. Maybe have a look at the > Network log (main window's Tools menu or ~/.claws-mail/claws.log on > disk) for more clues. Or maybe an issue with collapsed threads (copying only the top mail of thread) ? From olaf at aepfle.de Sun Feb 18 21:26:04 2018 From: olaf at aepfle.de (Olaf Hering) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 21:26:04 +0100 Subject: [Users] Which files from ~/.claws-mail should be backed up? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180218212604.08dade1f.olaf@aepfle.de> Am Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:52:50 +0200 schrieb Removed GDPR : > And which ones are not necessary for a recovery? (e.g. caches .claws-mail/imapcache/ is required if "ignore thread" or "mark thread" flags are used. Olaf -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you want to search the headers, first select "Show All Headers" from the Message menu (Ctrl+H by default, I believe). It works just fine. From removed-gdpr at example.com Sun Feb 18 21:53:29 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:53:29 +0200 Subject: [Users] How do I search inside message source? In-Reply-To: <20180218224048.780973c0.shai@platonix.com> References: <20180217214636.44c8436d@Erik-PC.epolan.dk> <20180217210925.1d144e6b@acer-suse.lan> <20180218224048.780973c0.shai@platonix.com> Message-ID: > from the Message menu (Ctrl+H by default, I believe). It works just > fine. It does, thanks! From dave at howorth.org.uk Sun Feb 18 22:36:24 2018 From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 21:36:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] How do I search inside message source? In-Reply-To: <20180218224048.780973c0.shai@platonix.com> References: <20180217214636.44c8436d@Erik-PC.epolan.dk> <20180217210925.1d144e6b@acer-suse.lan> <20180218224048.780973c0.shai@platonix.com> Message-ID: <20180218213624.575ef4bf@acer-suse.lan> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:40:48 +0200 Shai Berger wrote: > On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 21:09:25 +0000 > Dave Howorth wrote: > > > On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 21:46:36 +0100 > > "Erik P. Olsen" wrote: > > > > > > Edit -> Find in current message > > > > That doesn't work. Specifically, I opened the source of the message > > I am replying to, then selected Edit/Find in current message and > > searched for 'score' and got 'Search string not found'. But the word > > is clearly there in the headers. > > It searches in the displayed message pane, not in the message source. > If you want to search the headers, first select "Show All Headers" > from the Message menu (Ctrl+H by default, I believe). It works just > fine. Since the OP's question was "How do I search inside message source" then searching the source is a rather vital part of the answer! But I'll grant you that typing CTRL-H and then searching the message pane also works for headers, so thanks for that tip. It's not quite the same because searching the source searches the encoded body, but quite who would want to do that is not known to me. From removed-gdpr at example.com Tue Feb 20 19:49:21 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 20:49:21 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to hide sender IP address and host name? In-Reply-To: References: <20180216115625.2d3c36f5@kujata> <20180216143102.1585b634@kujata> Message-ID: I have just found that sending through Yahoo's SMTP does not reveal the IP address of the sending host. But I also found something else: Clicking on a folder in a Yahoo Mail account with about 3800 messages takes extremely long (15-20 minutes) and while this is running nothing else can be done with the program. In comparison clicking on a Gmail folder with a similar number of messages takes 2 seconds. What could be causing this? From codejodler at gmx.ch Tue Feb 20 21:30:07 2018 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 21:30:07 +0100 Subject: [Users] How to hide sender IP address and host name? In-Reply-To: References: <20180216115625.2d3c36f5@kujata> <20180216143102.1585b634@kujata> Message-ID: <20180220213007.6919707c@gandalf.lan3> George, it is good practice to stick with one topic per thread. If you are really intersted in why yahoo is slow, you should open a separate thread; but i also believe you should direct that question to some Yahoo support in the first place. But then we probably can anticipate the answer .... in a nutshell, while Google knows how to deal with big data efficiently, and usually is doing a good job, Yahoo was always a pain in the ass. In terms of privacy there is no real good guy out there, IMHO, but of course Google is also more efficiently doing a good job in having ways of profiling you. Go figure. From removed-gdpr at example.com Tue Feb 20 21:39:17 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 22:39:17 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to hide sender IP address and host name? In-Reply-To: <20180220213007.6919707c@gandalf.lan3> References: <20180216115625.2d3c36f5@kujata> <20180216143102.1585b634@kujata> <20180220213007.6919707c@gandalf.lan3> Message-ID: Sorry Michael. I thought there may be something related to claws-mail in particular regarding Yahoo's IMAP slowness, that's why I mentioned it. But perhaps you are right. Meanwhile I found on the web that others complain from the same. I also found that having the folders cached for offline use creates a little faster experience (but just a little). Re. privacy - this thread was not attempt for hiding from the mail server but for hiding the IP address from the recipient. Of course you are right - neither Google, nor Yahoo are our friends. I am looking for the best possible alternative but I still haven't found it. Again - sorry for the offtopic. -- George From lists-claws at listmail.innovate.net Tue Feb 20 23:23:18 2018 From: lists-claws at listmail.innovate.net (Richard) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 22:23:18 +0000 Subject: [Users] How to hide sender IP address and host name? In-Reply-To: References: <20180216115625.2d3c36f5@kujata> <20180216143102.1585b634@kujata> <20180220213007.6919707c@gandalf.lan3> Message-ID: <01D30E8C762CB84716D85457@ritz.innovate.net> > Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 22:39:17 +0200 > From: Removed GDPR > > Re. privacy - this thread was not attempt for hiding from the mail > server but for hiding the IP address from the recipient. Of course > you are right - neither Google, nor Yahoo are our friends. I am > looking for the best possible alternative but I still haven't found > it. > The client's IPnumber is gotten by the mail server by virtue of the mail submission connection/process. You can't control/hide that. The mail server will likely resolve it and include both the resolved name and IPnumber is the message headers. This is out of the control of the mail client. The mail server can select to not publish that information, but you need to take that up with your MSP. Webmail and other closed environments (e.g., the gmail mobile device app) allow the controlling MSP to do all manner of things, including suppressing client details (IPnumber/TZ, etc) - some do some don't. Third-party mail clients (e.g., claws) aren't relevant here. From ticho at claws-mail.org Tue Feb 20 23:34:04 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 23:34:04 +0100 Subject: [Users] How to hide sender IP address and host name? In-Reply-To: <01D30E8C762CB84716D85457@ritz.innovate.net> References: <20180216115625.2d3c36f5@kujata> <20180216143102.1585b634@kujata> <20180220213007.6919707c@gandalf.lan3> <01D30E8C762CB84716D85457@ritz.innovate.net> Message-ID: <20180220233404.66cdd93a@penny> On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 22:23:18 +0000 Richard wrote: > The client's IPnumber is gotten by the mail server by virtue of the > mail submission connection/process. You can't control/hide that. Sure you can - just use Tor. :) -- Andrej From lists-claws at listmail.innovate.net Tue Feb 20 23:45:32 2018 From: lists-claws at listmail.innovate.net (Richard) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 22:45:32 +0000 Subject: [Users] How to hide sender IP address and host name? In-Reply-To: <20180220233404.66cdd93a@penny> References: <20180216115625.2d3c36f5@kujata> <20180216143102.1585b634@kujata> <20180220213007.6919707c@gandalf.lan3> <01D30E8C762CB84716D85457@ritz.innovate.net> <20180220233404.66cdd93a@penny> Message-ID: <024277410AE288CE6F7B9245@ritz.innovate.net> > Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 23:34:04 +0100 > From: Andrej Kacian > > On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 22:23:18 +0000 > Richard wrote: > >> The client's IPnumber is gotten by the mail server by virtue of the >> mail submission connection/process. You can't control/hide that. > > Sure you can - just use Tor. :) Truc, that obscures the mail client's true IPnumber. It doesn't actually hide the client connection information (though the anonymity is probably sufficient) and this isn't something that the mail client controls, which was the OPs question/request. From removed-gdpr at example.com Wed Feb 21 00:00:03 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 01:00:03 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to hide sender IP address and host name? In-Reply-To: <20180220233404.66cdd93a@penny> References: <20180216115625.2d3c36f5@kujata> <20180216143102.1585b634@kujata> <20180220213007.6919707c@gandalf.lan3> <01D30E8C762CB84716D85457@ritz.innovate.net> <20180220233404.66cdd93a@penny> Message-ID: > Sure you can - just use Tor. :) How do you make sure your mail will be delivered? Tor nodes are often blacklisted for spam. From lists-claws at listmail.innovate.net Wed Feb 21 00:11:03 2018 From: lists-claws at listmail.innovate.net (Richard) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 23:11:03 +0000 Subject: [Users] How to hide sender IP address and host name? In-Reply-To: References: <20180216115625.2d3c36f5@kujata> <20180216143102.1585b634@kujata> <20180220213007.6919707c@gandalf.lan3> <01D30E8C762CB84716D85457@ritz.innovate.net> <20180220233404.66cdd93a@penny> Message-ID: <2089ABDB0D0DF240F0ECE6E3@ritz.innovate.net> > Date: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 01:00:03 +0200 > From: Removed GDPR > >> Sure you can - just use Tor. :) > > How do you make sure your mail will be delivered? Tor nodes are > often blacklisted for spam. The mail client's connection is not generally (should not be) evaluated for purposes of spam (people submit mail from all manner of connections). Rather, it's the submission server and on that are the evaluated entities. A properly configured submission server should only care about the submitter's credentials, not the network details, (unless of course it has reason to be specifically restricted) so you should be able to submit from a Tor connection just as easily as anywhere else. All that said ... I think this is now rather off topic for the Claws list. From removed-gdpr at example.com Wed Feb 21 00:21:33 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 01:21:33 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to hide sender IP address and host name? In-Reply-To: <2089ABDB0D0DF240F0ECE6E3@ritz.innovate.net> References: <20180216115625.2d3c36f5@kujata> <20180216143102.1585b634@kujata> <20180220213007.6919707c@gandalf.lan3> <01D30E8C762CB84716D85457@ritz.innovate.net> <20180220233404.66cdd93a@penny> <2089ABDB0D0DF240F0ECE6E3@ritz.innovate.net> Message-ID: > All that said ... I think this is now rather off topic for the Claws > list. Unless there is a way to use claws mail to send using Tor network. Is that possible? From removed-gdpr at example.com Wed Feb 21 00:36:49 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 01:36:49 +0200 Subject: [Users] Different columns for email and RSS lists - is that possible? Message-ID: I don't want to see the "From" and "Size" columns in RSS feeds but I want to see them for emails. Is it possible to configure claws-mail in such way? From removed-gdpr at example.com Wed Feb 21 00:36:48 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 01:36:48 +0200 Subject: [Users] Different columns for email and RSS lists - is that possible? Message-ID: I don't want to see the "From" and "Size" columns in RSS feeds but I want to see them for emails. Is it possible to configure claws-mail in such way? From removed-gdpr at example.com Wed Feb 21 11:23:44 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 12:23:44 +0200 Subject: [Users] Clicking a link in claws-mail opens it in default browser after a very long wait In-Reply-To: <20180216123812.161f42e6@acer-suse.lan> References: <20180216101309.6d4954dd.andrej@kacian.sk> <20180216123812.161f42e6@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: I think I may have found a fix for the issue, so I will share it in case someone else experiences anything similar. I noticed that the first time xdg-open tries to open a URL a notification in the tray area appears. So I went to "Proxy - System Settings Module" in Plasma and I saw it was set to "Detect proxy configuration automatically" which I changed to "No Proxy". Now clicking links seems to work fine. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Client Initiation Once the server has sent the greeting (welcoming) message and the client has received it, the client normally sends the EHLO command to the server, indicating the client's identity. ... In the EHLO command, the host sending the command identifies itself; 4.1.1.1. Extended HELLO (EHLO) or HELLO (HELO) These commands are used to identify the SMTP client to the SMTP server. The argument clause contains the fully-qualified domain name of the SMTP client, if one is available. In situations in which the SMTP client system does not have a meaningful domain name (e.g., when its address is dynamically allocated and no reverse mapping record is available), the client SHOULD send an address literal (IPv4 or IPv6). 4.4. Trace Information When an SMTP server receives a message for delivery or further processing, it MUST insert trace ("time stamp" or "Received") information at the beginning of the message content, as discussed in Section 4.1.1.4. This line MUST be structured as follows: o The FROM clause, which MUST be supplied in an SMTP environment, SHOULD contain both (1) the name of the source host as presented in the EHLO command and (2) an address literal containing the IP address of the source, determined from the TCP connection. ... In short, client (the CM in this case) have to identify itself with FQDN or IP (if FQDN is not available). And the server have to mark this ID and client's IP in message headers (usually Received header). Anything other breaks RFC. One cannot compare it with the webmail behavior, because it can use local access (not SMTP) to mail server, where the another rules are applied. And, of course, the clients assess webmail by HTTP, which is another story. If you steel need to hide hostname (vhich is used to get FQDN) and/or IP, ask to change RFC... regards Slavko -- Slavko http://slavino.sk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 473 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From colin at colino.net Wed Feb 21 11:53:08 2018 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 11:53:08 +0100 Subject: [Users] How to hide sender IP address and host name? In-Reply-To: References: <20180216115625.2d3c36f5@kujata> <20180216143102.1585b634@kujata> <20180220213007.6919707c@gandalf.lan3> <01D30E8C762CB84716D85457@ritz.innovate.net> <20180220233404.66cdd93a@penny> <2089ABDB0D0DF240F0ECE6E3@ritz.innovate.net> Message-ID: <20180221115308.1ef4bc3b@colin.i-run.lau> On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 01:21:33 +0200, Removed GDPR wrote: > > All that said ... I think this is now rather off topic for the Claws > > list. > > Unless there is a way to use claws mail to send using Tor network. Is > that possible? If you can find an SMTP server that can relay to other STMP servers over Tor, yes, by setting up Claws to use that SMTP server. -- Colin From removed-gdpr at example.com Wed Feb 21 12:07:05 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 13:07:05 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to hide sender IP address and host name? In-Reply-To: <7344b3bc-1f18-f3cd-d530-54ff0b3729df@slavino.sk> References: <20180216115625.2d3c36f5@kujata> <20180216143102.1585b634@kujata> <20180220213007.6919707c@gandalf.lan3> <01D30E8C762CB84716D85457@ritz.innovate.net> <20180220233404.66cdd93a@penny> <7344b3bc-1f18-f3cd-d530-54ff0b3729df@slavino.sk> Message-ID: Thanks Slavko. I guess this makes sending through web interfaces which don't expose the original IP address more secure in the sense: the correspondent who is not aware of the IP address of the sender could not initiate some attack of the sending host. I also suppose that what you shared means that Yahoo's SMTP which does not reveal the sender's IP address is not up to standard. From removed-gdpr at example.com Wed Feb 21 19:39:21 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 20:39:21 +0200 Subject: [Users] See the 'FILES' section of `man claws-mail` for brief descriptions of the files. In-Reply-To: <20180218091955.38dd4334@kujata> References: <20180218091955.38dd4334@kujata> Message-ID: Ok, I have read the whole man page. However it doesn't describe the sub-folders of ~/.claws-mail but just the files in the root directory. Perhaps my question should have been more explicit as I am looking to correctly backup the whole tree without including things which are temporary/cache. I assume that all *.bak files are not really necessary too as most of them seem to be identical copies of their non-*.bak version so it hardly makes sense to backup the backup. In tagsdb directory I see tree structures even for accounts which I have already deleted (is that a bug?) Do I need to backup that directory? What about files named: .claws_cache .claws_mark .mh_sequences Can I safely ignore directories: imapcache (I don't use "ignore thread" or "mark thread" flags) mimetmp newscache tempfolder Anything else which can (or must not) be ignored? -- George From removed-gdpr at example.com Thu Feb 22 15:23:14 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 16:23:14 +0200 Subject: [Users] Disable "Scan for new mail" for folder and all subfolders? Message-ID: Currently if I disable "Scan for new mail" the subfolders keep getting scanned on "Get Mail". How can I disable "Scan for new mail" for folder and all subfolders without having to go through each and every one? From removed-gdpr at example.com Thu Feb 22 15:31:53 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 16:31:53 +0200 Subject: [Users] Gmail account: impossible to delete Drafts, Sent, Queue and Trash folders Message-ID: I have Gmail account in which I have the standard [Gmail]/(subfolders) which I have configured accordingly as Drafts, Outbox, Trash and Queue. These work fine. However I also have Drafts, Sent, Queue and Trash folders in the main tree (not inside [Gmail] folder) and I can't delete them. Yet they add clutter to the folder structure Is that a bug? If not - how can I delete them? (Yes, I know I can unsubscribe from them but they would still appear if "Show only subscribed folders" is turned off) From ricardo at mones.org Thu Feb 22 17:15:03 2018 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 17:15:03 +0100 Subject: [Users] Disable "Scan for new mail" for folder and all subfolders? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180222161503.zgpwve4ckjhpilnr@busgosu> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 04:23:14PM +0200, Removed GDPR wrote: > Currently if I disable "Scan for new mail" the subfolders keep getting > scanned on "Get Mail". > > How can I disable "Scan for new mail" for folder and all subfolders > without having to go through each and every one? There's a column on the right full of empty checkboxes, the title reads "Apply to subfolders". Try to mark the one at the same height of the "Scan for new mail" checkbox before applying ;-) -- Ricardo Mones ~ 15:14 <@mones> you're overconfident today :) 15:14 <@claws> i will be this way forever now Seen on #claws -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But you can tell the account to use Gmail provided folders and remove later the ones which Claws Mail creates by default. See account preferences, Advanced page, Folder group. regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ bash: ./signature: No such file or directory /bin/bash -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: not available URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 22 15:41:19 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 14:41:19 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] New: Deleted news reappear as unread on feed refreshing Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3971 Bug ID: 3971 Summary: Deleted news reappear as unread on feed refreshing Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.16.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: major Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/RSSyl Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com Tested with feeds: https://www.schneier.com/blog/index.rdf https://www.hyperbola.info/feeds/news/ https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=UCkK9UDm_ZNrq_rIXCz3xCGA -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 22 15:43:37 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 14:43:37 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted news reappear as unread on feed refreshing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3971 --- Comment #1 from Removed after GDPR request --- Doesn't happen when refreshing this feed: http://seclists.org/rss/fulldisclosure.rss -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From removed-gdpr at example.com Thu Feb 22 18:20:18 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 19:20:18 +0200 Subject: [Users] Disable "Scan for new mail" for folder and all subfolders? In-Reply-To: <20180222161503.zgpwve4ckjhpilnr@busgosu> References: <20180222161503.zgpwve4ckjhpilnr@busgosu> Message-ID: Thanks Ricardo! The UI needs improvement :) From removed-gdpr at example.com Thu Feb 22 18:20:28 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 19:20:28 +0200 Subject: [Users] Gmail account: impossible to delete Drafts, Sent, Queue and Trash folders In-Reply-To: <20180222161906.3ikxh4q6ccpnqgrf@busgosu> References: <20180222161906.3ikxh4q6ccpnqgrf@busgosu> Message-ID: > No, it's not a bug. But you can tell the account to use Gmail provided > folders and remove later the ones which Claws Mail creates by default. > > See account preferences, Advanced page, Folder group. I have already done that. Yet strangely the 4 folders created by Claws Mail were there and impossible to delete... until I restarted the program. After restarting: only the Queue was at the root level and I could delete it. Definitely weird (and looks buggy). From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Thu Feb 22 22:31:16 2018 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 18:31:16 -0300 Subject: [Users] Frozen claws-mail Message-ID: <20180222183116.2edfcc82@ron.cerrocora.org> From time to time, once or twice a week, I find claws-mail frozen, folders window and message window blank, message list showing one message, and top showing that claws-mail is using 100% cpu. Attempts to close the window do nothing, I have to go to a console and "pkill claws-mail" to stop it, so I can restart it. Any idea ? CM 3.11.1 under Devuan Jessie. Cheers, Ron. -- Chaos is King and Magic is loose in the world. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 23 01:15:31 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 02:15:31 +0200 Subject: [Users] Is it possible to display Gmail's labels in message list? Message-ID: I have read that Gmail is some what not quite standard IMAP, still I am wondering - is there a way to have in claws mail some indication which folders/labels the messages in the list belong to? (Similar to how they are displayed in Gmail's interface) From johnxj at gmx.com Fri Feb 23 06:51:44 2018 From: johnxj at gmx.com (John Jason Jordan) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 21:51:44 -0800 Subject: [Users] Copying configs from old computer causes crash? Message-ID: <20180222215144.36c16f16@Devil-Bonobo> I have used Claws-Mail on my laptop for years, currently Xubuntu 14.04.3. There are four mail accounts and dozens of e-mail addresses for correspondents. I wish to transfer all of this to a new computer which has Xubuntu 17.10.1. I installed Claws-Mail on the new computer from the Ubuntu repositories, version 3.15.0. I forgot that I meant to copy the .claws-mail folder from ~/ on the old computer and paste it into ~/ on the new computer and instead I just launched Claws-Mail on the new computer. This popped up a bunch of welcome screens asking me for a lot of stuff that I didn't want to add so I left it all blank. When I got to the end of the screens Claws-Mail wouldn't let me close the welcome screens without also closing the main program. Then I copied and pasted the .claws-mail folder from the old computer to the new one, and launched Claws-Mail. It didn't pop up, and several minutes later Ubuntu gave me a window that said "The application Claws Mail has closed unexpectedly.' The details in the crash window said: claws-mail crashed with SIGSEGV in ___strchr_avx2() Apport/Version 2.20.7-Oubuntu3.7 Architecture amd64 and much more that would be difficult to post here because I'd have to type it manually - although it also said: Duplicate of: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs1727499 I tried to check out the bug but the page says " This page does not exist, or you may not have permission to see it." The new computer is for doing some CPU intensive stuff and my old computer is what I will continue to use for mail, so the new installation is just to give me a backup to get on the net in case something goes horribly wrong with my old computer - in other words, fixing this problem is not urgent. Nevertheless, suggestions will be greatly appreciated! From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 23 13:47:46 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 12:47:46 +0000 Subject: [Users] Copying configs from old computer causes crash? In-Reply-To: <20180222215144.36c16f16@Devil-Bonobo> References: <20180222215144.36c16f16@Devil-Bonobo> Message-ID: <20180223124746.6d65ebff@kujata> On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 21:51:44 -0800 John Jason Jordan wrote: > Nevertheless, suggestions will be greatly appreciated! Looks like bug 3855, 'segfault at startup with old profile and IMAP account'. This was fixed in 3.15.1. I suggest you upgrade to 3.16.0 with regards Paul From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 23 13:53:41 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 12:53:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] Frozen claws-mail In-Reply-To: <20180222183116.2edfcc82@ron.cerrocora.org> References: <20180222183116.2edfcc82@ron.cerrocora.org> Message-ID: <20180223125341.4e00a603@kujata> On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 18:31:16 -0300 "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" wrote: > Any idea ? CM 3.11.1 under Devuan Jessie. Upgrade. 3.11.1 was released over 3 years ago and there have been 9 releases since. with regards Paul From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 23 13:54:43 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 12:54:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] Different columns for email and RSS lists - is that possible? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180223125443.69d5fc0a@kujata> On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 01:36:49 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > Is it possible to configure claws-mail in such way? No. with regards Paul From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 23 14:25:23 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 15:25:23 +0200 Subject: [Users] Different columns for email and RSS lists - is that possible? In-Reply-To: <20180223125443.69d5fc0a@kujata> References: <20180223125443.69d5fc0a@kujata> Message-ID: > No. May one we file this as a feature request? From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 23 14:35:25 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 13:35:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on feed refreshing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3971 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WONTFIX --- Comment #2 from Paul --- Those feed items don't have a GUID, and deleted feed items are identified by the GUID. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 23 14:37:35 2018 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 13:37:35 +0000 Subject: [Users] Different columns for email and RSS lists - is that possible? In-Reply-To: References: <20180223125443.69d5fc0a@kujata> Message-ID: <20180223133735.21e7df99@kujata> On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 15:25:23 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > May one we file this as a feature request? You can file a feature request, but that doesn't mean that it'll ever happen. To have a better chance, submit a patch. with regards Paul From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 23 14:53:54 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 13:53:54 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on feed refreshing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3971 --- Comment #3 from Removed after GDPR request --- I don't know what this means but in newsbeuter there is no problem with those same feeds. (in case you want to reconsider) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 23 14:57:32 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 13:57:32 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3972] New: Option for different columns for email and RSS lists Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3972 Bug ID: 3972 Summary: Option for different columns for email and RSS lists Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.16.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: UI/Message List Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com "From" and "Size" columns in RSS feeds are not particularly useful (although they are for email messages). Currently claws-mail doesn't allow to have different columns for RSS and mail. This is a feature request for making it possible as discussed in the mailing list. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From johnxj at gmx.com Fri Feb 23 17:36:59 2018 From: johnxj at gmx.com (John Jason Jordan) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 08:36:59 -0800 Subject: [Users] Copying configs from old computer causes crash? In-Reply-To: <20180223124746.6d65ebff@kujata> References: <20180222215144.36c16f16@Devil-Bonobo> <20180223124746.6d65ebff@kujata> Message-ID: <20180223083659.1aca66e2@Devil-Bonobo> On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 12:47:46 +0000 Paul dijo: >On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 21:51:44 -0800 >John Jason Jordan wrote: > >> Nevertheless, suggestions will be greatly appreciated! > >Looks like bug 3855, 'segfault at startup with old profile and IMAP >account'. > >This was fixed in 3.15.1. > >I suggest you upgrade to 3.16.0 I upgraded to 3.15.1 and the problem is solved. Thanks! From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Fri Feb 23 17:51:30 2018 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 16:51:30 +0000 Subject: [Users] Gmail account: impossible to delete Drafts, Sent, Queue and Trash folders In-Reply-To: References: <20180222161906.3ikxh4q6ccpnqgrf@busgosu> Message-ID: <20180223165130.00007d87@prost.fenrir.org.uk> On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 19:20:28 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > > No, it's not a bug. But you can tell the account to use Gmail > > provided folders and remove later the ones which Claws Mail creates > > by default. > > > > See account preferences, Advanced page, Folder group. > > I have already done that. Yet strangely the 4 folders created by Claws > Mail were there and impossible to delete... until I restarted the > program. After restarting: only the Queue was at the root level and I > could delete it. > > Definitely weird (and looks buggy). It's done like that to ensure that you can't delete the necessary folders completely, so it's a 2 stage process, change the folders to where you want them then restart and delete the originals. For your protection. -- Brian From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Fri Feb 23 17:52:27 2018 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 16:52:27 +0000 Subject: [Users] Disable "Scan for new mail" for folder and all subfolders? In-Reply-To: References: <20180222161503.zgpwve4ckjhpilnr@busgosu> Message-ID: <20180223165227.00002b88@prost.fenrir.org.uk> On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 19:20:18 +0200 Removed GDPR wrote: > Thanks Ricardo! > > The UI needs improvement :) Patches always welcome! ;-) -- Brian From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 23 18:29:08 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 19:29:08 +0200 Subject: [Users] Disable "Scan for new mail" for folder and all subfolders? In-Reply-To: <20180223165227.00002b88@prost.fenrir.org.uk> References: <20180222161503.zgpwve4ckjhpilnr@busgosu> <20180223165227.00002b88@prost.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: > Patches always welcome! ;-) Sure but I am not a programmer :) From removed-gdpr at example.com Fri Feb 23 18:29:26 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 19:29:26 +0200 Subject: [Users] Gmail account: impossible to delete Drafts, Sent, Queue and Trash folders In-Reply-To: <20180223165130.00007d87@prost.fenrir.org.uk> References: <20180222161906.3ikxh4q6ccpnqgrf@busgosu> <20180223165130.00007d87@prost.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: I am not sure if that is the case. I think it may be some glitch in the program because earlier (in previous days) I am quite sure I had those unnecessary folders deleted. But yesterday I noticed they were back again while I was sorting some messages and folders. IOW: It is not the case of configuring, then assigning which folder is outbox, which is trash etc. but this is happening much latter. I can't provide STR though because it doesn't happen today. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 23 22:33:41 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 21:33:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3971] Deleted rss feed item reappears as unread on feed refreshing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3971 Andrej Kacian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Resolution|WONTFIX |FIXED --- Comment #4 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2018-02-23 22:29:10.106450835 +0100 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=525d5a8a91773df1c5305cc0626c7a82610692f6 Merge: 4ca6903 a0d936f Author: Colin Leroy Date: Fri Feb 23 22:29:08 2018 +0100 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0d936fb78ceaf27132f72b90e02a7967cb8d46a Author: Andrej Kacian Date: Fri Feb 23 22:27:35 2018 +0100 RSSyl: fix deleted item checking when modified or published time is missing Fixes bug #3971. --- Comment #5 from Andrej Kacian --- Actually, there was a bug in RSSyl that caused the deleted items even with IDs to appear, after a second refresh. Fixed now in git. Deleted items reappearing in the hyperbola.info feed can't be fixed on our side, though - they give their feed items empty ID string, so there's nothing we can do to reliably identify individual items to determine that they have been deleted before. Not without breaking other feeds, which use ID strings correctly. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 24 19:31:46 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 18:31:46 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3973] New: Drag'n'drop doesn't work correctly with filter and switching folders Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3973 Bug ID: 3973 Summary: Drag'n'drop doesn't work correctly with filter and switching folders Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.16.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Message List Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com Have 2 different folders containing at least a few same messages. STR: 1. Click folder #1 2. Type some string to filter a few, e.g. From/To/Cc/Subject/Tag: abc at example.com 3. A few messages show up according to the filter 4. Switch to folder #2 - it contains at least a few of the same messages, so it shows messages in the list (filter is still active) 5. Press Ctrl+A - messages get selected 6. Try to drag the selected messages to folder #3 EXPECTED Dragging should work ACTUAL Dragging does not work. The only way to make it work is (when in folder #2): deselect the messages (which were previously selected using Ctrl+A) then Ctrl+A again - then dragging works. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 24 19:37:46 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 18:37:46 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3973] Drag'n'drop doesn't work correctly with filter and switching folders In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3973 --- Comment #1 from Removed after GDPR request --- Actually it seems unrelated to filters. Simply navigating to a folder and pressing Ctrl+A makes the selected messages non-draggable. (unless a mouse click previously occurred somewhere in the message list). In Preferences:Display:Summaries:Open message when selected I have all checkboxes on except "Always" and "When opening a folder" and "Set default selection when entering a folder" is set to "none" -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 24 21:09:41 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 20:09:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3973] Drag'n'drop doesn't work correctly with Quick Search and switching folders In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3973 --- Comment #2 from Paul --- Works for me. Tested several times. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 24 21:52:33 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 20:52:33 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3973] Drag'n'drop doesn't work correctly with Quick Search and switching folders In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3973 --- Comment #3 from Removed after GDPR request --- Aren't you using a later (git) version? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 24 22:05:13 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 21:05:13 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3973] Drag'n'drop doesn't work correctly with Quick Search and switching folders In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3973 --- Comment #4 from Removed after GDPR request --- Please make sure that when you click a mail folder nothing is automatically selected and that you don't click in the message list before pressing Ctrl+A. I can reproduce it each and every time. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 24 22:05:34 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 21:05:34 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3973] Drag'n'drop doesn't work correctly with Quick Search and switching folders In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3973 --- Comment #5 from Removed after GDPR request --- KDE Plasma 5.8.7 in case that matters. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 24 22:09:30 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 21:09:30 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3973] Drag'n'drop doesn't work correctly with Quick Search and switching folders In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3973 --- Comment #6 from Removed after GDPR request --- I also notice that pressing "Delete" after Ctrl+A also has no effect whatsoever. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 25 14:12:03 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2018 13:12:03 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3973] 'select all' in summaryview does not automatically focus the summaryview In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3973 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|Drag'n'drop doesn't work |'select all' in summaryview |correctly with Quick Search |does not automatically |and switching folders |focus the summaryview -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 25 14:19:46 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2018 13:19:46 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3973] 'select all' in summaryview does not automatically focus the summaryview In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3973 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #7 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2018-02-25 14:19:03.915195538 +0100 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=8acabfe3d70e1841ab9e838e62a8f55e76512112 Merge: b4a3b2d a3e48bd Author: Colin Leroy Date: Sun Feb 25 14:19:03 2018 +0100 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=a3e48bd6e7e62dedfef8ddedbeeb90400b5234b3 Author: Paul Date: Sun Feb 25 13:18:40 2018 +0000 fix bug 3973, ''select all' in summaryview does not automatically focus the summaryview' The problem is apparent when 'default selection on entering a folder' is set to 'none' and the first user action on entering the folder is 'select all'. This visually selected all the messages but summaryview did not have the focus, so any actions performed on that list would fail. Removed summary_select_all(), which didn't quite do as advertised and instead use gtk_cmclist_select_all() which selects and focuses. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 25 18:23:04 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2018 17:23:04 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3974] New: Collect addresses does not collect them all Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3974 Bug ID: 3974 Summary: Collect addresses does not collect them all Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.16.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Tools Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com Tested on a folder with more than 1000 messages. STR: 1. Select folder (I will call it ROOT for the sake of this report) 2. Tool:Collect addresses:From current folder 3. Turn on all checkboxes except "Include subfolders" 4. Go to address book. Copy one email addresses 5. Paste it on a From/To/Cc/Subject/Tag filter 6. Create a subfolder of ROOT and move the filtered messages to it 7. Repeat 4-6 for the other collected email addresses 8. Select the ROOT folder EXPECTED No messages should remain in the ROOT folder. ACTUAL Messages remain in the ROOT folder. Also repeating steps 2-3 finds new email addresses in ROOT which previously didn't show in the list of collected ones. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 25 18:24:32 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2018 17:24:32 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3974] Collect addresses does not collect them all In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3974 --- Comment #1 from Removed after GDPR request --- ETA: I am putting "Address book folder size" to 50000 (although ROOT doesn't really contain more than 10-20 addresses, I am sure of that) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 25 18:31:43 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2018 17:31:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3975] New: No option to copy only email address Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3975 Bug ID: 3975 Summary: No option to copy only email address Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.16.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: UI/Address Book Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com Right clicking on an entry in address in Address book doesn't have an option to copy only the email address. Also copying the email address from a message (right click->Copy this address) copies it with the name, e.g. " john at doe.com" It would be useful to have options to copy only the email address and/or only the name for the purpose of using the copied string in filter. Even better: additional option to directly right click and have an option "Use address as From/To/Cc/Subject/Tag filter" -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 25 21:10:36 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2018 20:10:36 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3974] Collect addresses does not collect them all In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3974 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE --- Comment #2 from Paul --- looks like a duplicate of #1517 *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 1517 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 25 21:10:36 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2018 20:10:36 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 1517] address harvest does not collect address from undownloaded imap messages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1517 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |removed-gdpr at example.com --- Comment #10 from Paul --- *** Bug 3974 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From removed-gdpr at example.com Mon Feb 26 11:19:13 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 12:19:13 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to display email address instead of name in "From" column? Message-ID: Subject From ticho at claws-mail.org Mon Feb 26 11:27:27 2018 From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 11:27:27 +0100 Subject: [Users] Look for 'summary_from_show' hidden preference at http://www.claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180226112520.4bd5be3f.andrej@kacian.sk> Subject -- Andrej From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Mon Feb 26 11:33:36 2018 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 07:33:36 -0300 Subject: [Users] Selection question Message-ID: <20180226073336.2083be46@ron.cerrocora.org> Is there a way to select, in a folder, all the messages that have an attachment ? Cheers, Ron. -- If you sit down at a poker game and don't see a sucker, get up. You're the sucker. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From usenet at karmasailing.uk Mon Feb 26 11:42:01 2018 From: usenet at karmasailing.uk (Bob Williams) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:42:01 +0000 Subject: [Users] Look for 'summary_from_show' hidden preference at http://www.claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html In-Reply-To: <20180226112520.4bd5be3f.andrej@kacian.sk> References: <20180226112520.4bd5be3f.andrej@kacian.sk> Message-ID: <20180226104201.2e46ae16@blackbox.karmasailing.uk> On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 11:27:27 +0100 Andrej Kacian wrote: > Subject > :-) -- Bob Williams System: Linux 4.4.114-42-default Distro: openSUSE 42.3 (x86_64) Desktop: KDE Frameworks: 5.32.0, Qt: 5.6.2 and Plasma: 5.8.7 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Mon Feb 26 12:10:20 2018 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 08:10:20 -0300 Subject: [Users] Selection question In-Reply-To: <20180226114304.465860bf@papi.home> References: <20180226073336.2083be46@ron.cerrocora.org> <20180226114304.465860bf@papi.home> Message-ID: <20180226081020.6f847b79@ron.cerrocora.org> On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 11:43:04 +0100 Páder Rezső wrote: > >Is there a way to select, in a folder, all the messages that have an > >attachment ? > > Use extended search with "has_attachment". OK Ta. Cheers, Ron. -- Poets have been mysteriously reticent on the subject of cheese. -- Edna St. Vincent Millay -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From subscript at free.fr Mon Feb 26 12:30:51 2018 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 12:30:51 +0100 Subject: [Users] Look for 'summary_from_show' hidden preference at http://www.claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html In-Reply-To: <20180226104201.2e46ae16@blackbox.karmasailing.uk> References: <20180226112520.4bd5be3f.andrej@kacian.sk> <20180226104201.2e46ae16@blackbox.karmasailing.uk> Message-ID: <20180226123051.31788e89@ladybug> On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:42:01 +0000 Bob Williams wrote: > On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 11:27:27 +0100 > Andrej Kacian wrote: > > > Subject > > > > :-) :-) -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 27 13:50:55 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 12:50:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3976] New: Folder rule does not work in first attempt Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3976 Bug ID: 3976 Summary: Folder rule does not work in first attempt Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.15.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Filtering Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: clawsmail at mailgrab.exedio.com My Xubuntu uses Claws-Mail in version "3.15.0-dirty" I think this is a bug, but maybe I don't understand something here. I added following two rules to my IMAP INBOX: [#imap/xxx.xxx at xxx.com/INBOX] enabled rulename "JenkinsF" from matchcase "jenkins at xxx.com" & ~subject match "Successful" move "#imap/xxx.xxx at xxx.com/Jenkins-Fail" stop enabled rulename "JenkinsS" from matchcase "jenkins at xxx.com" & subject match "Successful" move "#imap/xxx.xxx at xxx.com/Jenkins-Success" stop The problem: After clicking on my INBOX all emails from jenkins at xxx.com moving to the Jenkins-Fail folder. Including the mails with a "Success" in the subject. If I move the emails manually back to the INBOX folder, then the behavior is correct. The "Success"-mails to the Jenkins-Success folder and the remaining mails to Jenkins-Fail. I my first approach I used filter rules instead of folder rules. Same problem... A typical subject (without quotes) is: "Jenkins: my-project-name-master #3568 - Successful" -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From bobgoodwin at fastmail.us Tue Feb 27 18:39:50 2018 From: bobgoodwin at fastmail.us (Bob Goodwin) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 12:39:50 -0500 Subject: [Users] Filter configuration - Message-ID: <00ffaf61-9aa3-cc3e-b880-7c361aeb7227@fastmail.us> I want to try Claws Mail and have installed it in Fedora-27. I have created an email account and collected 210 messages. Now I need to establish directories to sort mail into and have established a sub directory under Inbox [Newegg] to test with. I can drag files into it but I can't seem to get the filter settings correct. No matter what entries I have tried it has just errored each time so far. The manual instructions haven't helped me, I may be just too dumb but I have trouble understanding what to enter in each item in the menu. Is there an example I could look at? Thank you, Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 FEDORA-27/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bobgoodwin at fastmail.us Tue Feb 27 18:41:32 2018 From: bobgoodwin at fastmail.us (Bob Goodwin) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 12:41:32 -0500 Subject: [Users] Filter configuration - Message-ID: <2594465b-730f-11f5-5684-fff2e36c7c01@fastmail.us> I want to try Claws Mail and have installed it in Fedora-27. I have created an email account and collected 210 messages. Now I need to establish directories to sort mail into and have established a sub directory under Inbox [Newegg] to test with. I can drag files into it but I can't seem to get the filter settings correct. No matter what entries I have tried it has just errored each time so far. The manual instructions haven't helped me, I may be just too dumb but I have trouble understanding what to enter in each item in the menu. Is there an example I could look at? Thank you, Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 FEDORA-27/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3 From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 27 20:16:56 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:16:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3902] UI deadlock when trying to exit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3902 --- Comment #4 from Kostya Vasilyev --- Happened again, same pattern: - got into a loop trying to fetch non-existent messages in the Queue folder - there is a bunch (more than a dozen) local files in imapcache/..../Inbox/Queue - their UID's again exceed the UIDNEXT of Inbox.Queue on the server - their content are incoming messages, not outgoing messages - there are zero messages in the server Inbox.Queue folder $ rpm -qi claws-mail Name : claws-mail Version : 3.15.1 Release : 1.fc27 Architecture: x86_64 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 28 05:53:33 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 04:53:33 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3977] New: Fix crashes when some external APIs fail Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3977 Bug ID: 3977 Summary: Fix crashes when some external APIs fail Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.16.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: major Priority: P3 Component: Plugins Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: jiazhouyang09 at gmail.com Created attachment 1849 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1849&action=edit patch of the potential API bugs Hi, I'm a PhD student. I analyzed the claws source code and found some potential API bugs that may cause crashes. These crashes are mainly caused by insufficient error handling of API functions like curl_easy_perform, gdk_keyboard_grab or pthread_create. I think it's unsafe to assume the library function would be correct. It would be better if we could handle the error properly. Attached please find the patch against version claws-mail-3.16.0. Hopefully, it can solve these potential bugs. Best, Zhouyang -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 28 14:31:11 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 13:31:11 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3977] Fix crashes when some external APIs fail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3977 --- Comment #1 from wwp --- Good thing, you're right. Did you proof-test all the modified situations? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 28 15:07:58 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 14:07:58 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3977] Fix crashes when some external APIs fail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3977 --- Comment #2 from Zhouyang --- Yes, I have tested the modifications, and everything looks good. I think the modified situations still need double checks, since I have limited domain knowledge on detailed code logic. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 28 19:40:04 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 18:40:04 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3963] claws-mail: Popup notifications not working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3963 --- Comment #13 from Removed after GDPR request --- Update: I have just configured a separate email account but with POP. The news is that popup notifications work for POP. Yet they don't work for IMAP. So the reason is obviously not the KDE version. Could you please test with IMAP and reconsider fixing? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 28 19:44:58 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 18:44:58 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3957] Claws-Mail 64bit crashes when saving a draft In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3957 Andrej Kacian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|Claws-Mail 64bit crashes |Claws-Mail 64bit crashes |when composing new message |when saving a draft |while spell-check is on | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 28 20:10:50 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 19:10:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3963] claws-mail: Popup notifications not working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3963 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Resolution|WORKSFORME |INVALID --- Comment #14 from Paul --- The popup is for 'new' mail. You use gmail's imap, which doesn't know what a 'new' mail is, it only knows 'unread' and 'read'. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 28 20:35:44 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 19:35:44 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3963] claws-mail: Popup notifications not working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3963 --- Comment #15 from Removed after GDPR request --- Yes, ok - as terminology popups don't work for 'unread' IMAP mail but still from user viewpoint it makes sense to receive notifications for 'unread' mail as normally new messages arrive unread and one would like to be notified about incoming unread email. At least that is how other email clients notify the user. The tray icon notification works correctly along this logic. But popups don't. Why should that be INVALID? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From removed-gdpr at example.com Wed Feb 28 23:15:10 2018 From: removed-gdpr at example.com (Removed GDPR) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 00:15:10 +0200 Subject: [Users] Viewing threads Message-ID: Hi, I am facing the following problem (gmail account accessed via IMAP): Typical scenario: I receive an email in Inbox and I reply to it. The incoming messages stays in Inbox, the outgoing one ends up in Sent Mail but I don't see the messages threaded due to this separation. Workarounds I have found so far: - Move both messages to the same folder (e.g. Inbox or some other). But that is illogical because it makes sense sent messages to still be viewable in Sent Mail. Moving them to another folder removes them from Sent Mail. - Look at the "All Mail" folder. But this is an overkill because it contains a huge number of messages. When using Gmail's web interface this problem does not exist. Threads are always visible properly regardless of labels/folders. My questions are: 1. How can I get this properly organized when using Claws and IMAP so that I don't have to make any illogical moves (as in 1) or to browse thousands of emails? The purpose is to always be able to view the whole thread, not to seek for it's individual messages across folders. 2. How can I see in the message list which IMAP folders (labels) the current message belongs to? Gmail's web interface displays them very nicely, one can assign colors etc and it would be great if I could do something similar in Claws Mail. 3. Is there a way to display a whole thread like a linear sequence in Claws similar to the "Expand all" function in Gmail's web interface? From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 28 23:32:40 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 22:32:40 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3963] claws-mail: Popup notifications not working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3963 --- Comment #16 from Holger Berndt --- It's INVALID because this bug report does not name a bug. With respect to the "New" and "Unread" IMAP flags, the plugin behaves as it should. What you are requesting is a special handling to work around a broken IMAP implementation of your mail provider. There is an enhancement request in bug 2451 for this specific issue. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 28 23:55:06 2018 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 22:55:06 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3963] claws-mail: Popup notifications not working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3963 --- Comment #17 from Removed after GDPR request --- Is Yahoo's IMAP also broken? Because for it popups still don't show up. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.