From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Apr  3 15:06:04 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 13:06:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4003] New: Attachment names/extensions do not work
 with other clients
Message-ID: <bug-4003-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4003

            Bug ID: 4003
           Summary: Attachment names/extensions do not work with other
                    clients
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.16.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: major
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: cjwp at posteo.de

Hey there,

it seems that the file names of attachments that I send with Claws have some
strange kind of format that are unreadable by other email software.
Example: a ".doc"-file is renamed to something like =BMjAxOF9GcsO8aGphaHJfUE0r=
when opening the e-mail in another program (or even the web interface).
This happens both to the recipients of my mail as well as to myself when trying
to open the attachments using another client.

Any hints on how to fix this (should the problem be on my end) would be greatly
appreciated.

Cheers
Chris

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Apr  3 16:46:45 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 14:46:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4003] Attachment names/extensions do not work with
 other clients
In-Reply-To: <bug-4003-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4003-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4003-595-BCF337vu5p@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4003

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
no such problem here. please attach an example message made with claws-mail, or
send me one directly.

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From a.meyer at nimmini.de  Tue Apr  3 17:56:51 2018
From: a.meyer at nimmini.de (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 17:56:51 +0200
Subject: [Users] compiling claws-mail
Message-ID: <20180403175651.335cae0a@workstation>

Hello!

On a fresh installation of opensuse Leap 42.3 I see this when I
compile claws-mail.

Disabled due to missing dependencies:
            - archive
            - fancy
            - gdata
            - pdf_viewer
            - python
            - tnef_parse
            - vcalendar

Python is installed and also python-devel
Python 2.7.13

checking whether to build smime plugin... yes
checking whether to build spam_report plugin... yes
checking whether to build tnef_parse plugin... no
configure: WARNING: Plugin tnef_parse will not be built; missing libytnef"
checking whether to build vcalendar plugin... no
configure: WARNING: "Plugin vcalendar will not be built; missing libical "
checking that generated files are newer than configure... done
configure: creating ./config.status

Don't know why python does not build and what to do with the others.

Any help appreciated

Kind regards

  Andreas


From olaf at aepfle.de  Tue Apr  3 18:03:57 2018
From: olaf at aepfle.de (Olaf Hering)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 18:03:57 +0200
Subject: [Users] compiling claws-mail
In-Reply-To: <20180403175651.335cae0a@workstation>
References: <20180403175651.335cae0a@workstation>
Message-ID: <20180403180357.0df5ad5e.olaf@aepfle.de>

Am Tue, 3 Apr 2018 17:56:51 +0200
schrieb Andreas Meyer <a.meyer at nimmini.de>:

> Don't know why python does not build and what to do with the others.

Just open configure.ac and see what exactly configure checks for. Most of it can be fixed with something like 'zypper in "pkgconfig(ical)".
In case of python, the dependency is apparently pkgconfig(python2) and pkgconfig(pygtk-2.0).

Good luck.

Olaf

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From a.meyer at nimmini.de  Tue Apr  3 18:33:02 2018
From: a.meyer at nimmini.de (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 18:33:02 +0200
Subject: [Users] compiling claws-mail
In-Reply-To: <20180403180357.0df5ad5e.olaf@aepfle.de>
Message-ID: <20180403183302.272340bc@workstation>

Am Tue, 3 Apr 2018 18:03:57 +0200 schrieb Olaf Hering <olaf at aepfle.de>:

> Am Tue, 3 Apr 2018 17:56:51 +0200
> schrieb Andreas Meyer <a.meyer at nimmini.de>:
> 
> > Don't know why python does not build and what to do with the others.  
> 
> Just open configure.ac and see what exactly configure checks for. Most of it can be fixed with something like 'zypper in "pkgconfig(ical)".
> In case of python, the dependency is apparently pkgconfig(python2) and pkgconfig(pygtk-2.0).

Danke!

zypper in "pkgconfig(pygtk-2.0)" hat python installiert.
zypper in "pkgconfig(ical)" findet allerdings nichts und auch nicht zypper in "pkgconfig(archive)"

Kind regards

  Andreas


From a.meyer at nimmini.de  Tue Apr  3 18:36:43 2018
From: a.meyer at nimmini.de (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 18:36:43 +0200
Subject: [Users] compiling claws-mail
In-Reply-To: <20180403180357.0df5ad5e.olaf@aepfle.de>
Message-ID: <20180403183643.7f936de1@workstation>

Am Tue, 3 Apr 2018 18:03:57 +0200
schrieb Olaf Hering <olaf at aepfle.de>:

> Am Tue, 3 Apr 2018 17:56:51 +0200
> schrieb Andreas Meyer <a.meyer at nimmini.de>:
> 
> > Don't know why python does not build and what to do with the others.  
> 
> Just open configure.ac and see what exactly configure checks for. Most of it can be fixed with something like 'zypper in "pkgconfig(ical)".
> In case of python, the dependency is apparently pkgconfig(python2) and pkgconfig(pygtk-2.0).

oh, looked at configure.ac and zypper in "pkgconfig(libarchive)" did the trick.

  Andreas


From den_ml at posteo.de  Tue Apr  3 18:59:33 2018
From: den_ml at posteo.de (Denis)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 19:59:33 +0300
Subject: [Users] Several column orders in Message List
Message-ID: <20180403195933.396c1548@manjaro>

Hi, everyone!

I'm sorry, but I can't seem to find it in the manual. Can I have different column order in different boxes?

In my mailbox I want to keep my current order of columns in Message List: Subject-From-Date-Size, but in my feeds (I get them with RSSyl) I want the columns in another order: Subject-Date-From-Size, because the date and time of a news item is usually more important than the author name, especially if we are talking about blogs: one blog = one author.

Is there a way to set it this way?

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Apr  3 19:08:13 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 18:08:13 +0100
Subject: [Users] Several column orders in Message List
In-Reply-To: <20180403195933.396c1548@manjaro>
References: <20180403195933.396c1548@manjaro>
Message-ID: <20180403180813.3fd3986a@kujata>

On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 19:59:33 +0300
Denis <den_ml at posteo.de> wrote: 

> I'm sorry, but I can't seem to find it in the manual. Can I have
> different column order in different boxes?

Not only in different mailboxes, but in different folders. Every
folder has its own sort order. Just select it and it is saved for
that folder.

with regards

Paul


From den_ml at posteo.de  Tue Apr  3 19:17:40 2018
From: den_ml at posteo.de (Denis)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 20:17:40 +0300
Subject: [Users] Several column orders in Message List
In-Reply-To: <20180403180813.3fd3986a@kujata>
References: <20180403195933.396c1548@manjaro> <20180403180813.3fd3986a@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180403201740.379d32d6@manjaro>

On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 18:08:13 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 19:59:33 +0300
> Denis <den_ml at posteo.de> wrote: 
> 
> > I'm sorry, but I can't seem to find it in the manual. Can I have
> > different column order in different boxes?
> 
> Not only in different mailboxes, but in different folders. Every
> folder has its own sort order. Just select it and it is saved for
> that folder.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul

How? If I select "View -> Set displayed columns -> In message list", then it affects every box and folder, and I don't see any other way.

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From a.meyer at nimmini.de  Tue Apr  3 19:19:37 2018
From: a.meyer at nimmini.de (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 19:19:37 +0200
Subject: [Users] moving claws-mail to new system
Message-ID: <20180403191937.6c55c4a1@workstation>

Hello!

One more question. I compiled and installed claws-mail successfully on
my new system.

Now in the old installation I had some email-accounts and with a lot of
folders and filters.

Can I copy this old structure somehow to the new system and what folders
and files would that be?

Kind regards

  Andreas


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Apr  3 19:24:12 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 18:24:12 +0100
Subject: [Users] Several column orders in Message List
In-Reply-To: <20180403201740.379d32d6@manjaro>
References: <20180403195933.396c1548@manjaro> <20180403180813.3fd3986a@kujata>
 <20180403201740.379d32d6@manjaro>
Message-ID: <20180403182412.338ec724@kujata>

On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 20:17:40 +0300
Denis <den_ml at posteo.de> wrote: 

> How? If I select "View -> Set displayed columns -> In message
> list", then it affects every box and folder, and I don't see any
> other way.

Oh, my mistake. I read 'order' and thought you were talking about
sort order. The actual answer is 'no'.

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Apr  3 19:30:40 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 18:30:40 +0100
Subject: [Users] moving claws-mail to new system
In-Reply-To: <20180403191937.6c55c4a1@workstation>
References: <20180403191937.6c55c4a1@workstation>
Message-ID: <20180403183040.7df20c7c@kujata>

On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 19:19:37 +0200
Andreas Meyer <a.meyer at nimmini.de> wrote: 

> Can I copy this old structure somehow to the new system and what
> folders and files would that be?

Yes, you can. If you have an MH mailbox then you should copy this,
(default is ~/Mail), and you should also copy ~/.claws-mail/. See
`man claws-mail` for descriptions of what it contains.

Be mindful about preserving permissions and ownership, i.e. do it.

Easiest way is probably creating tarballs.

with regards

Paul


From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Tue Apr  3 19:52:11 2018
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 11:52:11 -0600
Subject: [Users] moving claws-mail to new system
In-Reply-To: <20180403183040.7df20c7c@kujata>
References: <20180403191937.6c55c4a1@workstation>
 <20180403183040.7df20c7c@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180403115211.318a2cc7@hawk.localdomain>

On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 18:30:40 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 19:19:37 +0200
> Andreas Meyer <a.meyer at nimmini.de> wrote: 
> 
> > Can I copy this old structure somehow to the new system and what
> > folders and files would that be?  
> 
> Yes, you can. If you have an MH mailbox then you should copy this,
> (default is ~/Mail), and you should also copy ~/.claws-mail/. See
> `man claws-mail` for descriptions of what it contains.
> 
> Be mindful about preserving permissions and ownership, i.e. do it.
> 
> Easiest way is probably creating tarballs.

Indeed. I do exactly this routinely with unison between two desktops and
a laptop. Works just fine.

Just be sure claws-mail is shut down when you make the transfer.

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From a.meyer at nimmini.de  Tue Apr  3 21:56:49 2018
From: a.meyer at nimmini.de (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 21:56:49 +0200
Subject: [Users] fontsize of buttons and message window
Message-ID: <20180403215631.724acd4b.a.meyer@nimmini.de>

Hello!

And one more question. Can one change the fontsize of the buttons and the messagewindow too?

Kind regards

  Andreas


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Tue Apr  3 22:11:37 2018
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 21:11:37 +0100
Subject: [Users] fontsize of buttons and message window
In-Reply-To: <20180403215631.724acd4b.a.meyer@nimmini.de>
References: <20180403215631.724acd4b.a.meyer@nimmini.de>
Message-ID: <20180403211137.3592d72a@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 21:56:49 +0200
Andreas Meyer <a.meyer at nimmini.de> wrote:

Hello Andreas,

>And one more question. Can one change the fontsize of the buttons and
>the messagewindow too?

'Preferences - Display section - Fonts' will be of use to you.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Apr  4 07:26:55 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 05:26:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4004] New: To be able to set how often Claws checks
 for email by account
Message-ID: <bug-4004-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4004

            Bug ID: 4004
           Summary: To be able to set how often Claws checks for email by
                    account
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Actions
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: lbickley at bickleywest.com

version 3.16.0git101
System Information
GTK+ 2.24.31 / GLib 2.48.2
Locale: en_US.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8)
Operating System: Linux 4.4.120-45-default (x86_64)

Currently, there is one setting in Preferences to establish how often Claws
checks for emails. I have several email accounts - some high and some low
priority. It would be advantageous to be able to set how often each "account"
checks for email.

For instance, I could set my high priority accounts to check for email every 5
minutes and my low priority accounts to check every 30 minutes.

Cheers,
Lyle

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Apr  4 09:06:18 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 07:06:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4004] To be able to set how often Claws checks for
 email by account
In-Reply-To: <bug-4004-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4004-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4004-595-aE2UHq2Gq0@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4004

wwp <wwp at claws-mail.org> changed:

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*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 2552 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Apr  4 09:06:18 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 07:06:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2552] in automatic checking,
 enable the use of different time intervals
In-Reply-To: <bug-2552-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2552-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2552-595-1EtnZ3MMIR@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2552

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                 CC|                            |lbickley at bickleywest.com

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*** Bug 4004 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Apr  4 10:01:54 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 08:01:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3992] folderitemrc keeps stale data for
 deleted/renamed folders/accounts
In-Reply-To: <bug-3992-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3992-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3992-595-Vkkxx51vnu@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3992

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |DUPLICATE

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*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 3952 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Apr  4 10:01:54 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 08:01:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3952] Renaming an account appends to folderitemrc
 rather rewriting it
In-Reply-To: <bug-3952-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3952-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3952-595-1kgboMVBjd@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3952

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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                 CC|                            |removed-gdpr at example.com

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*** Bug 3992 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Apr  4 10:27:56 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 08:27:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3985] An empty progress bar remains after POP mail
 check completes
In-Reply-To: <bug-3985-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3985-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3985-595-oHzBdCG04O@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3985

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Apr  4 11:12:39 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 09:12:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4003] Attachment names/extensions do not work with
 other clients
In-Reply-To: <bug-4003-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4003-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4003-595-tRw3b76YWN@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4003

--- Comment #2 from cjwp at posteo.de ---
Hey Paul,

done - sent you an e-mail with a document named test.odt - (I assume you'll
have to view it in a software other than Claws in order to replicate the
problem).

Thanks
Chris

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Apr  4 11:16:18 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 09:16:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4003] Attachment names/extensions do not work with
 other clients
In-Reply-To: <bug-4003-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4003-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4003-595-ZZk5SrXa5N@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4003

--- Comment #3 from cjwp at posteo.de ---
Mh, this is strange... now I can view the attachment I sent to you no problem
in other applications - no sign of yesterday's bug... I see if I can replicate
it anyways...



(In reply to comment #2)
> Hey Paul,
> 
> done - sent you an e-mail with a document named test.odt - (I assume you'll
> have to view it in a software other than Claws in order to replicate the
> problem).
> 
> Thanks
> Chris

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Apr  4 11:29:40 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 09:29:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4003] Attachment names/extensions do not work with
 other clients
In-Reply-To: <bug-4003-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4003-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4003-595-WncwG10ERJ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4003

--- Comment #4 from cjwp at posteo.de ---
Found the problem (or rather I now know what to do in order to replicate it) -
apparently, this only occurs when the attached file's name contains an umlaut
(ä, ö, ü) as it tends to do every so often here in Germany ;)

Perhaps this can be fixed by tweaking some obscure setting I'm simply oblivious
to?

Sent you another e-mail with a file named täst.odt so you can see for
yourself...

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Apr  4 11:35:52 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 09:35:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4003] Attachment names/extensions do not work with
 other clients
In-Reply-To: <bug-4003-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4003-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4003-595-ZVNTmcecXR@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4003

--- Comment #5 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Yes, certainly no problem here with the täst.odt attachment. Looking at the
source of the message we can see:

Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="=??B?dMOkc3Qub2R0?="

So the filename, täst.odt, is base64 encoded, but there is a problem. If I
attach the same file, my message source looks like this:

Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="=?UTF-8?B?dMOkc3Qub2R0?="

Note the 'UTF-8' between the question marks which is missing in yours.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Apr  4 13:10:06 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 11:10:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4003] Attachment names/extensions do not work with
 other clients
In-Reply-To: <bug-4003-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4003-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4003-595-pQoG9RTura@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4003

--- Comment #6 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
On the /Configuration/Preferences/Mail Handling/Sending page, what is your
'Outgoing encoding' set as?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Apr  4 13:16:02 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 11:16:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4003] Attachment names/extensions do not work with
 other clients
In-Reply-To: <bug-4003-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4003-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4003-595-dNZVggh58K@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4003

--- Comment #7 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
... and also, on /Help/About, on the 'Info' tab, under 'System Information',
what is the value of 'Locale'?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Apr  4 13:45:13 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 11:45:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4005] New: Possibility to have different columns
 and/or column order in different folders
Message-ID: <bug-4005-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4005

            Bug ID: 4005
           Summary: Possibility to have different columns and/or column
                    order in different folders
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: other
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message List
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: den_ml at posteo.de

I am not talking about sorting order, what I mean is the columns themselves in
the Message List.

E.g. in my mailbox I want the following columns in the following order from
left to right: Subject-From-Date-Size. But in feeds (I get them with RSSyl) I
want the columns either in another order (Subject-Date-From-Size) or to not
have the From column at all (Subject-Date-Size).

Rationale: the date and time of a news item is usually more important than the
author name. Besides, many sites give feeds without the names of authors of
news items, so From just displays the name of the site, so this field is not
needed, because this site's feed is already in a separate folder. The same goes
for blogs with just one author.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Apr  4 13:56:59 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 11:56:59 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4005] Possibility to have different columns and/or
 column order in different folders
In-Reply-To: <bug-4005-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4005-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4005-595-ykZ2ibJYs4@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4005

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 3972 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Apr  4 13:56:59 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 11:56:59 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3972] Option for different columns for email and RSS
	lists
In-Reply-To: <bug-3972-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3972-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3972-595-UNe2Vchoqi@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3972

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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                 CC|                            |den_ml at posteo.de

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
*** Bug 4005 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From a.meyer at nimmini.de  Thu Apr  5 03:01:39 2018
From: a.meyer at nimmini.de (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 03:01:39 +0200
Subject: [Users] Problem with GPG
Message-ID: <20180405030119.13461b50.a.meyer@nimmini.de>

Hello!

After moving to a fresh system openSUSE Leap 42.3 my GPG does not work anymore.

The folder .gnupg is there with all the keys but for example kgpg shows nothing.
Also when I want to sign an email I get "no key found" or something.

What can I do to make claws-mail find my keys which reside in /home/andreas/.gnupg ?
Permissions are ok.

Kind Regards

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Apr  5 10:57:37 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 09:57:37 +0100
Subject: [Users] Problem with GPG
In-Reply-To: <20180405030119.13461b50.a.meyer@nimmini.de>
References: <20180405030119.13461b50.a.meyer@nimmini.de>
Message-ID: <20180405095737.7311c421@kujata>

On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 03:01:39 +0200
Andreas Meyer <a.meyer at nimmini.de> wrote: 

> After moving to a fresh system openSUSE Leap 42.3 my GPG does not
> work anymore.

Have you tried gpg and/or gpg2 from the commandline and verified that
there is not a problem /outside/ of claws-mail?

with regards

Paul


From a.meyer at nimmini.de  Thu Apr  5 11:31:13 2018
From: a.meyer at nimmini.de (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 11:31:13 +0200
Subject: [Users] Problem with GPG
In-Reply-To: <20180405095737.7311c421@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180405113113.11b68788.a.meyer@nimmini.de>

Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> schrieb am 05.04.18 um 09:57:37 Uhr:

> On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 03:01:39 +0200
> Andreas Meyer <a.meyer at nimmini.de> wrote: 
> 
> > After moving to a fresh system openSUSE Leap 42.3 my GPG does not
> > work anymore.  
> 
> Have you tried gpg and/or gpg2 from the commandline and verified that
> there is not a problem /outside/ of claws-mail?

Today the keys are there. Must have had something to do with kgpg or somesuch.
Seems a restart solved the problem, don't know.

Thank you!

  Andreas
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From johngeoffreywalker at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Apr  5 13:58:36 2018
From: johngeoffreywalker at yahoo.co.uk (John G Walker)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 12:58:36 +0100
Subject: [Users] Notification icon missing
Message-ID: <20180405125836.3d7ab651@Adele>

Yesterday, when I restarted Claws-Mail, my notification icon failed to
appear. This has happened before on occasions, but the workaround then
was to unload the plugin and then reload it. This time the workaround
has failed.

Any ideas as to what is going on?

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From subscript at free.fr  Thu Apr  5 14:21:00 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 14:21:00 +0200
Subject: [Users] Notification icon missing
In-Reply-To: <20180405125836.3d7ab651@Adele>
References: <20180405125836.3d7ab651@Adele>
Message-ID: <20180405142100.09136c13@ladybug>

Hello John,


On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 12:58:36 +0100 John G Walker <johngeoffreywalker at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Yesterday, when I restarted Claws-Mail, my notification icon failed to
> appear. This has happened before on occasions, but the workaround then
> was to unload the plugin and then reload it. This time the workaround
> has failed.
> 
> Any ideas as to what is going on?

Presuming that you "notification icon" is related to the notification
plug-in..

Start `claws-mail --debug` from a terminal. What's the error in GUI when
you attempt to load the plugin? Anything caught in terminal at that
moment?

How do you install Claws Mail exactly? Why did you restart it, BTW?

`ldd $PREFIX/lib/claws-mail/plugins/notification.so` could also tell us
if a binary dependency is not satisfied anymore. $PREFIX depends on how
you install Claws Mail.


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Apr  5 16:09:48 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2018 14:09:48 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3951] First unread message selected surprisingly in
 some scenarios
In-Reply-To: <bug-3951-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3951-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3951-595-FJXeY2AuPb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3951

--- Comment #1 from Tristan Miller <psychonaut at nothingisreal.com> ---
Scenario #1 is a duplicate of Bug 3840.

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From johngeoffreywalker at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Apr  5 17:08:32 2018
From: johngeoffreywalker at yahoo.co.uk (John G Walker)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 16:08:32 +0100
Subject: [Users] Notification icon missing
In-Reply-To: <20180405142100.09136c13@ladybug>
References: <20180405125836.3d7ab651@Adele> <20180405142100.09136c13@ladybug>
Message-ID: <20180405160832.76936af4@Adele>



On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 14:21:00 +0200 wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:

Thanks for replying. wwp.

> Presuming that you "notification icon" is related to the notification
> plug-in..
> 

Yes. The notification plugin normally puts an icon is the System Tray
which alters when there are unread messages.

> Start `claws-mail --debug` from a terminal. What's the error in GUI
> when you attempt to load the plugin? Anything caught in terminal at
> that moment?
> 

I ran this from a terminal, unloaded the plugin then got this when I
loaded it again:

notification_core.c:332:Notification Plugin: Hash table created
notification_hotkeys.c:105:Notification plugin: Updating keybindings..
notification_hotkeys.c:115:Notification plugin: Unbinding all
keybindings.. notification_hotkeys.c:105:Notification plugin: Updating
keybindings.. notification_hotkeys.c:115:Notification plugin: Unbinding
all keybindings.. notification_plugin.c:357:Notification plugin loaded
plugin.c:525:Plugin Notification (from
file /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/notification.so) loaded
plugin.c:526:TIMING
plugin_load /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/notification.so: 0s044ms

This seems to have worked. Given that the notification icon was
appearing until it didn't I doubt that it's an installation issue.

> How do you install Claws Mail exactly? Why did you restart it, BTW?
> 

I installed Claws-Mail many moons ago from a SuSE repository. I
restarted it because I rebooted my PC!

> `ldd $PREFIX/lib/claws-mail/plugins/notification.so` could also tell
> us if a binary dependency is not satisfied anymore. $PREFIX depends
> on how you install Claws Mail.

How do I find where Yast has installed Claws-Mail? I used to know how
to do this sort of thing, but these days I just run things and get on
with my life. I use Linux so that I can look under the hood if things
go wrong, but nowadays they so seldom do,

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From subscript at free.fr  Thu Apr  5 17:28:57 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 17:28:57 +0200
Subject: [Users] Notification icon missing
In-Reply-To: <20180405160832.76936af4@Adele>
References: <20180405125836.3d7ab651@Adele> <20180405142100.09136c13@ladybug>
 <20180405160832.76936af4@Adele>
Message-ID: <20180405172857.4817ea51@ladybug>

Hello John,


On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 16:08:32 +0100 John G Walker <johngeoffreywalker at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 14:21:00 +0200 wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:
> 
[snip]
> I ran this from a terminal, unloaded the plugin then got this when I
> loaded it again:
> 
> notification_core.c:332:Notification Plugin: Hash table created
> notification_hotkeys.c:105:Notification plugin: Updating keybindings..
> notification_hotkeys.c:115:Notification plugin: Unbinding all
> keybindings.. notification_hotkeys.c:105:Notification plugin: Updating
> keybindings.. notification_hotkeys.c:115:Notification plugin:
> Unbinding all keybindings.. notification_plugin.c:357:Notification
> plugin loaded plugin.c:525:Plugin Notification (from
> file /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/notification.so) loaded
> plugin.c:526:TIMING
> plugin_load /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/notification.so: 0s044ms
> 
> This seems to have worked. Given that the notification icon was
> appearing until it didn't I doubt that it's an installation issue.

The question is, how can it "disappear"? That might be a defect in the
plug-in code, but we'll need more information to understand
when/why/how it ceases functioning.
Could you tell us what notification features are enabled (preferences >
plugins > notification)? Would be nice to identify the context when it
stops, too. Last resort if we can't reproduce will be to run claws-mail
from gdb or valgrind.


[snip]
> > `ldd $PREFIX/lib/claws-mail/plugins/notification.so` could also tell
> > us if a binary dependency is not satisfied anymore. $PREFIX depends
> > on how you install Claws Mail.  
> 
> How do I find where Yast has installed Claws-Mail? I used to know how
> to do this sort of thing, but these days I just run things and get on
> with my life. I use Linux so that I can look under the hood if things
> go wrong, but nowadays they so seldom do,

It's /usr, the log excerpts you included in your previous email talks
about /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/notification.so.
But IMO we don't care about `ldd` anymore now that we know that the
plug-in loads w/o error.


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Apr  6 12:10:19 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2018 10:10:19 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4006] New: Message List navigates wrong way with lists
 sorted in reverse date order
Message-ID: <bug-4006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4006

            Bug ID: 4006
           Summary: Message List navigates wrong way with lists sorted in
                    reverse date order
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.16.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message List
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: vine35792468 at gmail.com

When a message list is set to sort in reverse date order, the 'P', 'N' and
spacebar keys navigate the wrong way.  This is particularly noticeable when the
list also shows a threaded view.  Pressing the 'N' key for example will move to
the previous message in the thread, not the next, and the spacebar key fails to
work at all because the "next" (in fact preceding) messages have already been
read.

Message lists work correctly when sorted in reverse date order with
claws-mail-3.14.1 and earlier (I've not tested claws-mail-3.15.0, and
claws-mail-3.15.1 won't compile for me because of libical issues).

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Apr  6 12:30:56 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2018 10:30:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4006] Message List navigates wrong way with lists
 sorted in reverse date order
In-Reply-To: <bug-4006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4006-595-hP4nyrwVLG@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4006

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
When the message list is sorted in reverse date order the P (previous) and N
(next) are also reversed. If you sort from bottom to top N moves up, P moves
down. When you sort from top to bottom N move down, P moves up.

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From trey at fastmail.fm  Fri Apr  6 19:19:47 2018
From: trey at fastmail.fm (Trey Sizemore)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 13:19:47 -0400
Subject: [Users] libsecret dependency error
Message-ID: <20180406131947.618e6de9@antergos>

I've recently been getting the following errors for the libsecret
package, and I'm not sure how to best resolve:

Making package: lib32-libsecret 0.18.6-1 (Fri Apr  6 13:15:40 EDT 2018)
==> Checking runtime dependencies...
==> Missing dependencies:
  -> libsecret=0.18.6


Or this variation with pacman:

error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: lib32-libsecret: installing libsecret (0.18.6-1) breaks dependency
'libsecret=0.18.5+14+g9980655'

Any help is greatly appreciated!

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From mir at miras.org  Fri Apr  6 19:25:30 2018
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 19:25:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] libsecret dependency error
In-Reply-To: <20180406131947.618e6de9@antergos>
References: <20180406131947.618e6de9@antergos>
Message-ID: <20180406192530.3ab812d1@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Fri, 6 Apr 2018 13:19:47 -0400
Trey Sizemore <trey at fastmail.fm> wrote:

> I've recently been getting the following errors for the libsecret
> package, and I'm not sure how to best resolve:
> 
> Making package: lib32-libsecret 0.18.6-1 (Fri Apr  6 13:15:40 EDT 2018)
> ==> Checking runtime dependencies...
> ==> Missing dependencies:
>   -> libsecret=0.18.6  
> 
> 
> Or this variation with pacman:
> 
> error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
> :: lib32-libsecret: installing libsecret (0.18.6-1) breaks dependency
> 'libsecret=0.18.5+14+g9980655'
> 
> Any help is greatly appreciated!
> 
Seems to be a packaging problem so try contact the Arch packager.

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From trey at fastmail.fm  Fri Apr  6 20:09:37 2018
From: trey at fastmail.fm (Trey Sizemore)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 14:09:37 -0400
Subject: [Users] libsecret dependency error
In-Reply-To: <20180406131947.618e6de9@antergos>
References: <20180406131947.618e6de9@antergos>
Message-ID: <20180406180937.GA8462@antergos>

On Fri Apr 06, 2018 01:19PM, Trey Sizemore wrote:
> I've recently been getting the following errors for the libsecret
> package, and I'm not sure how to best resolve:
> 
> Making package: lib32-libsecret 0.18.6-1 (Fri Apr  6 13:15:40 EDT 2018)
> ==> Checking runtime dependencies...
> ==> Missing dependencies:
>   -> libsecret=0.18.6
> 
> 
> Or this variation with pacman:
> 
> error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
> :: lib32-libsecret: installing libsecret (0.18.6-1) breaks dependency
> 'libsecret=0.18.5+14+g9980655'
> 
> Any help is greatly appreciated!
> 

Sorry...wrong list.

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From dave at howorth.org.uk  Sat Apr  7 13:25:15 2018
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 12:25:15 +0100
Subject: [Users] error in display of empty quoted lines
Message-ID: <20180407122515.5c3e45d4@acer-suse.lan>

I think there is an error in how claws displays empty quoted lines. I
received an email that contains the following sequence:

greater [some text then] newline greater space newline greater space
newline [more text]

So [some text then] is part of an original message and [more text] is
part of a reply to that message.

I would expect it to be displayed as:

> some text then
> 
> 
more text

But claws actually displays it as

> some text then
> > more text

which is very confusing. Presumably you will need to use something
other than claws to view this mail to see what I am talking about.

I'm using claws 3.13.2 which is standard on openSUSE Leap 42.3. Is this
a known bug?


From dave at howorth.org.uk  Sat Apr  7 13:31:34 2018
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 12:31:34 +0100
Subject: [Users] error in display of empty quoted lines
In-Reply-To: <20180407122515.5c3e45d4@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20180407122515.5c3e45d4@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20180407123134.6ddd0e7c@acer-suse.lan>

On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 12:25:15 +0100
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:

> I think there is an error in how claws displays empty quoted lines. I
> received an email that contains the following sequence:
> 
> greater [some text then] newline greater space newline greater space
> newline [more text]
> 
> So [some text then] is part of an original message and [more text] is
> part of a reply to that message.
> 
> I would expect it to be displayed as:
> 
> > some text then
> > 
> >   
> more text
> 
> But claws actually displays it as
> 
> > some text then  
> > > more text  
> 
> which is very confusing. Presumably you will need to use something
> other than claws to view this mail to see what I am talking about.

Hmm, claws displays my mail as I would hope, so there's something more
complicated going on. What other information does the display depend
upon than the characters actually in the text?

> I'm using claws 3.13.2 which is standard on openSUSE Leap 42.3. Is
> this a known bug?


From shai at platonix.com  Sat Apr  7 17:14:10 2018
From: shai at platonix.com (Shai Berger)
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 18:14:10 +0300
Subject: [Users] error in display of empty quoted lines
In-Reply-To: <20180407123134.6ddd0e7c@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20180407122515.5c3e45d4@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180407123134.6ddd0e7c@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20180407181410.47c0bc36.shai@platonix.com>

On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 12:31:34 +0100
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 12:25:15 +0100
> Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > I think there is an error in how claws displays empty quoted lines.
> > I received an email that contains the following sequence:
> > 
> > greater [some text then] newline greater space newline greater space
> > newline [more text]
> > 

When you say "newline" -- is that CR, LF, CRLF, or something else?
Maybe that's the difference between the mails?


From ticho at claws-mail.org  Sat Apr  7 17:17:41 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 17:17:41 +0200
Subject: [Users] error in display of empty quoted lines
In-Reply-To: <20180407123134.6ddd0e7c@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20180407122515.5c3e45d4@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180407123134.6ddd0e7c@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20180407171741.1d69d722@penny>

On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 12:31:34 +0100
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:

> Hmm, claws displays my mail as I would hope, so there's something more
> complicated going on. What other information does the display depend
> upon than the characters actually in the text?

It would probably help if you were able to forward (as attachment) an
example message - if it's not something private, of course.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From dave at howorth.org.uk  Sat Apr  7 22:04:25 2018
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 21:04:25 +0100
Subject: [Users] error in display of empty quoted lines
In-Reply-To: <20180407181410.47c0bc36.shai@platonix.com>
References: <20180407122515.5c3e45d4@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180407123134.6ddd0e7c@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180407181410.47c0bc36.shai@platonix.com>
Message-ID: <20180407210425.73685786@acer-suse.lan>

On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 18:14:10 +0300
Shai Berger <shai at platonix.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 12:31:34 +0100
> Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 12:25:15 +0100
> > Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:
> >   
> > > I think there is an error in how claws displays empty quoted
> > > lines. I received an email that contains the following sequence:
> > > 
> > > greater [some text then] newline greater space newline greater
> > > space newline [more text]
> 
> When you say "newline" -- is that CR, LF, CRLF, or something else?
> Maybe that's the difference between the mails?

Sorry, it's a newline \n 0x0A.

I suspect the difference may be something more like

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Language: fr
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

in the original message versus

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

in my message. I'm not sure why claws uses base64 to send my messages.
Is that a configuration option?


From dave at howorth.org.uk  Sat Apr  7 22:05:37 2018
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 21:05:37 +0100
Subject: [Users] error in display of empty quoted lines
In-Reply-To: <20180407171741.1d69d722@penny>
References: <20180407122515.5c3e45d4@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180407123134.6ddd0e7c@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180407171741.1d69d722@penny>
Message-ID: <20180407210537.47351cfe@acer-suse.lan>

On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 17:17:41 +0200
Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org> wrote:

> On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 12:31:34 +0100
> Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > Hmm, claws displays my mail as I would hope, so there's something
> > more complicated going on. What other information does the display
> > depend upon than the characters actually in the text?  
> 
> It would probably help if you were able to forward (as attachment) an
> example message - if it's not something private, of course.

Indeed, but I didn't write the original message and don't have
permission to reproduce it. I'll see if I can get it.


From subscript at free.fr  Sat Apr  7 22:14:49 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 22:14:49 +0200
Subject: [Users] error in display of empty quoted lines
In-Reply-To: <20180407210537.47351cfe@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20180407122515.5c3e45d4@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180407123134.6ddd0e7c@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180407171741.1d69d722@penny>
 <20180407210537.47351cfe@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20180407221449.0408a003@ladybug>

Hello Dave,


On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 21:05:37 +0100 Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 17:17:41 +0200
> Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 12:31:34 +0100
> > Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:
> >   
> > > Hmm, claws displays my mail as I would hope, so there's something
> > > more complicated going on. What other information does the display
> > > depend upon than the characters actually in the text?    
> > 
> > It would probably help if you were able to forward (as attachment) an
> > example message - if it's not something private, of course.  
> 
> Indeed, but I didn't write the original message and don't have
> permission to reproduce it. I'll see if I can get it.

Make a copy of the email file itself, replace recipients, body text and
other sensible words with random ones, what matters is the text
structure, not the words themselves, and we don't care about
sender/recipients.


Regards,

-- 
wwp
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From dave at howorth.org.uk  Sun Apr  8 00:19:28 2018
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 23:19:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] error in display of empty quoted lines
In-Reply-To: <20180407221449.0408a003@ladybug>
References: <20180407122515.5c3e45d4@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180407123134.6ddd0e7c@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180407171741.1d69d722@penny>
 <20180407210537.47351cfe@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180407221449.0408a003@ladybug>
Message-ID: <20180407231928.05d8240b@acer-suse.lan>

On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 22:14:49 +0200
wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:

> Hello Dave,
> 
> 
> On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 21:05:37 +0100 Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 17:17:41 +0200
> > Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 12:31:34 +0100
> > > Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:
> > >     
> > > > Hmm, claws displays my mail as I would hope, so there's
> > > > something more complicated going on. What other information
> > > > does the display depend upon than the characters actually in
> > > > the text?      
> > > 
> > > It would probably help if you were able to forward (as
> > > attachment) an example message - if it's not something private,
> > > of course.    
> > 
> > Indeed, but I didn't write the original message and don't have
> > permission to reproduce it. I'll see if I can get it.  
> 
> Make a copy of the email file itself, replace recipients, body text
> and other sensible words with random ones, what matters is the text
> structure, not the words themselves, and we don't care about
> sender/recipients.
> 
> Regards,

OK, there's a hacked about version attached.

BTW, I discovered that the message I sent to the claws-mail list was 

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

but what the list sent back to me was

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

I have no idea why the list software would do that.
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From dave at howorth.org.uk  Sun Apr  8 13:18:14 2018
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 12:18:14 +0100
Subject: [Users] error in display of empty quoted lines
In-Reply-To: <20180407210425.73685786@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20180407122515.5c3e45d4@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180407123134.6ddd0e7c@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180407181410.47c0bc36.shai@platonix.com>
 <20180407210425.73685786@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20180408121814.1dfebefe@acer-suse.lan>

On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 21:04:25 +0100
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 18:14:10 +0300
> Shai Berger <shai at platonix.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 12:31:34 +0100
> > Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 12:25:15 +0100
> > > Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:
> > >     
> > > > I think there is an error in how claws displays empty quoted
> > > > lines. I received an email that contains the following sequence:
> > > > 
> > > > greater [some text then] newline greater space newline greater
> > > > space newline [more text]  
> > 
> > When you say "newline" -- is that CR, LF, CRLF, or something else?
> > Maybe that's the difference between the mails?  
> 
> Sorry, it's a newline \n 0x0A.
> 
> I suspect the difference may be something more like
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> Content-Language: fr
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> 
> in the original message versus

OK. I think I understand what is going on. But since I've gone from
zero knowledge to 'understanding' by reading a single document, I may
well be mistaken, so be gentle :)

I think the problem stems from 'format=flowed' and I think both the
originating mailer and claws have bugs.

My source of information was <https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2646.txt>.

The originating mailer sent a mail with a change in quoting depth on a
flowed line, which it is not supposed to do. (i.e. greater space
newline more text - it should have been: greater newline more text). So
I think it's buggy.

Claws, in deciding how to display such a broken email, is supposed to
give priority to the change in quoting level: 'a receiving agent SHOULD
handle it using quote-depth wins'. So it should display it as I
expected, not how it does. So I think claws is also buggy.

Are there any configuration options that would let me improve how claws
deals with this?

Or have I misunderstood?

> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> 
> in my message. I'm not sure why claws uses base64 to send my messages.
> Is that a configuration option?


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Apr  8 13:42:10 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 12:42:10 +0100
Subject: [Users] error in display of empty quoted lines
In-Reply-To: <20180408121814.1dfebefe@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20180407122515.5c3e45d4@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180407123134.6ddd0e7c@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180407181410.47c0bc36.shai@platonix.com>
 <20180407210425.73685786@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180408121814.1dfebefe@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20180408124210.02c253b2@kujata>

On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 12:18:14 +0100
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote: 

> I think the problem stems from 'format=flowed' and I think both the
> originating mailer and claws have bugs.

Yes, it is to do with 'format-flowed'.

> My source of information was <https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2646.txt>.
> 
> The originating mailer sent a mail with a change in quoting depth
> on a flowed line, which it is not supposed to do. (i.e. greater
> space newline more text - it should have been: greater newline more
> text). So I think it's buggy.
> 
> Claws, in deciding how to display such a broken email, is supposed
> to give priority to the change in quoting level: 'a receiving agent
> SHOULD handle it using quote-depth wins'. So it should display it
> as I expected, not how it does. So I think claws is also buggy.

I've also been perusing that RFC, and I too wondered about which side
is wrong. But, for me, this morning is not the ideal time to try to
decipher an RFC.

> Are there any configuration options that would let me improve how
> claws deals with this?

Setting the hidden pref 'respect_flowed_format' to 0 (the default)
helps with your msg, although that doesn't seem right either.

I toyed with a patch:
http://thewildbeast.co.uk/claws_patches/possible_fix_for_format_flowed.patch
But I'm not convinced that this is correct either right now.

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Apr  8 17:47:37 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2018 15:47:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3346] Contact merging
In-Reply-To: <bug-3346-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3346-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3346-595-voad4mwLcT@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3346

wwp <wwp at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Attachment #1456|0                           |1
        is obsolete|                            |

--- Comment #5 from wwp <wwp at claws-mail.org> ---
Created attachment 1863
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1863&action=edit
Patch updated to build against recent GIT and GTK (+fixes)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Apr  8 17:52:36 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2018 15:52:36 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3346] Contact merging
In-Reply-To: <bug-3346-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3346-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3346-595-CPRR6gdqxf@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3346

--- Comment #6 from wwp <wwp at claws-mail.org> ---
Sorry for the delay.. I had to update the patch so that it builds against fresh
GIT code, and solve use of deprecated GTK+ calls, but also fixing the picture
selection (previous patch was getting picture data that could not be used to
check picture filenames). Basically the patch works, as far as I could test it.
There are ways to enhance it, like making the dialog contents expanding upon
dialog resize, sorting names, adding a tooltip or another side-widget that
would show full contact detail upon picture or name selection, and maybe
in-depth contact data checking because currently it only checks for name data
to determine if contacts are similar (IIRC).

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From dave at howorth.org.uk  Sun Apr  8 18:19:32 2018
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 17:19:32 +0100
Subject: [Users] error in display of empty quoted lines
In-Reply-To: <20180408124210.02c253b2@kujata>
References: <20180407122515.5c3e45d4@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180407123134.6ddd0e7c@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180407181410.47c0bc36.shai@platonix.com>
 <20180407210425.73685786@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180408121814.1dfebefe@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180408124210.02c253b2@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180408171932.3af31776@acer-suse.lan>

On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 12:42:10 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 12:18:14 +0100
> Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote: 
> 
> > I think the problem stems from 'format=flowed' and I think both the
> > originating mailer and claws have bugs.  
> 
> Yes, it is to do with 'format-flowed'.

Thanks for the confirmation.

> > My source of information was <https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2646.txt>.

I've now discovered I wasted my time to some extent and I should have
been reading <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3676>

I'll get around to that later, not right now.

> > The originating mailer sent a mail with a change in quoting depth
> > on a flowed line, which it is not supposed to do. (i.e. greater
> > space newline more text - it should have been: greater newline more
> > text). So I think it's buggy.
> > 
> > Claws, in deciding how to display such a broken email, is supposed
> > to give priority to the change in quoting level: 'a receiving agent
> > SHOULD handle it using quote-depth wins'. So it should display it
> > as I expected, not how it does. So I think claws is also buggy.  
> 
> I've also been perusing that RFC, and I too wondered about which side
> is wrong. But, for me, this morning is not the ideal time to try to
> decipher an RFC.

I don't blame you :)

> > Are there any configuration options that would let me improve how
> > claws deals with this?  
> 
> Setting the hidden pref 'respect_flowed_format' to 0 (the default)
> helps with your msg, although that doesn't seem right either.

Thanks for that. I vaguely remember setting it to 1 because of broken
URLs so I'm not sure which is better. There was another message, also
produced by Thunderbird with format=flowed, that claws renders
inelegantly:

Original:

On 08/04/18 xxxx wrote:
> some quoted text.
> 
> a two line quoted
> paragraph.
> 
> another quoted
> two line paragraph.
> 
> and some more quoted text

(note spaces at the end of the '> ' lines but not at the end of those
with text. So quite seriously broken.)

As rendered by claws:

On 08/04/18 xxxx wrote:
> some quoted text.
> > a two line quoted
> paragraph.
> > another quoted
> two line paragraph.
> > and some more quoted text

Not ideal :(

> I toyed with a patch:
> http://thewildbeast.co.uk/claws_patches/possible_fix_for_format_flowed.patch
> But I'm not convinced that this is correct either right now.

I'm not sure either. I'll have another look after I've read the correct
spec.

> with regards
> 
> Paul

Cheers, Dave


From dave at howorth.org.uk  Sun Apr  8 21:05:02 2018
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 20:05:02 +0100
Subject: [Users] error in display of empty quoted lines
In-Reply-To: <20180408171932.3af31776@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20180407122515.5c3e45d4@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180407123134.6ddd0e7c@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180407181410.47c0bc36.shai@platonix.com>
 <20180407210425.73685786@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180408121814.1dfebefe@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180408124210.02c253b2@kujata>
 <20180408171932.3af31776@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20180408200502.3e6ad2fa@acer-suse.lan>

On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 17:19:32 +0100
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:
> There was another message, also produced by Thunderbird with
> format=flowed, that claws renders inelegantly:

And I've just found another even worse example. Again Blunderbird V and
again format=flowed. Source is:

>    some quoted
> text here.
> 

some unquoted text here.

(spaces after the > but none at the end of any quoted text so very
definitely broken)
And claws renders it as:

> >    some quoted
> text here.
> some unquoted text here.

Quite why claws has ignored the completely blank line I don't know.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Apr  8 23:35:51 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 22:35:51 +0100
Subject: [Users] error in display of empty quoted lines
In-Reply-To: <20180408200502.3e6ad2fa@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20180407122515.5c3e45d4@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180407123134.6ddd0e7c@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180407181410.47c0bc36.shai@platonix.com>
 <20180407210425.73685786@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180408121814.1dfebefe@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180408124210.02c253b2@kujata>
 <20180408171932.3af31776@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180408200502.3e6ad2fa@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20180408223551.7072555f@kujata>

On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 20:05:02 +0100
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote: 

> Quite why claws has ignored the completely blank line I don't know.

I don't suppose you tried my patch with this other message?

Can you again share this message?

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Apr  9 10:27:35 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2018 08:27:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4007] New: PGP/MIME email subject and header
 encryption / "memory hole"
Message-ID: <bug-4007-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4007

            Bug ID: 4007
           Summary: PGP/MIME email subject and header encryption / "memory
                    hole"
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: other
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Privacy/PGP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: hanno at hboeck.de

The latest version of enigmail supports OpenPGP-encrypted Subjects. The mail
subject is replaced with a placeholder and the real subject is in the mail.

It would be nice if claws could start supporting this as well (at least for
reading/displaying for a start).

The spec used to live here:
https://modernpgp.org/memoryhole/

Unfortunately it's offline right now, but you can access it here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20170301022028/https://modernpgp.org/memoryhole/

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Apr  9 13:39:21 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2018 11:39:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3346] Contact merging
In-Reply-To: <bug-3346-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3346-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3346-595-hPRIGdXpqD@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3346

--- Comment #7 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
Updated patch builds and works nicely here, I'd say push it! ;-)

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From Stefan.Brunthaler at Brunthaler.de  Mon Apr  9 17:17:45 2018
From: Stefan.Brunthaler at Brunthaler.de (Stefan Brunthaler)
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2018 17:17:45 +0200
Subject: [Users] Problem with bsfilterw.exe and claws mail 3.16 on Win10x64
Message-ID: <0E1A89FDB013C80D421FC5CF@[192.168.1.33]>

Hi,

I installed claws mail on 2 PCs with Win10 (x64). Now I have
the error case that bsfilterw.exe will crash and bsfilter will fail.
This error has been reported for earlier versions some years
ago, but was never fixed or has magically come to life again.

Can someone pls. do something about it?

Thanks,
Stefan B.

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Fon: +49.30.215081-11, Fax: +49.30.215081-88
HRB 27 337 beim Amtsgericht Berlin-Charlottenburg
ILN: 40 37176 00000 4 / Mail: brun at brunthaler.de



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Apr 10 00:27:22 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2018 22:27:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3346] Contact merging
In-Reply-To: <bug-3346-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3346-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3346-595-VPxF4mYqkO@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3346

wwp <wwp at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #8 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2018-04-10 00:26:07.515195760 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=d705f90f18bbdb91babd1ac9e83cad06c919f6ec
Merge: ef5e4d1 f25722a
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Tue Apr 10 00:26:05 2018 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=f25722af77b9378ce0fcfb4c3d09b9bd3c01902a
Author: wwp <wwp at free.fr>
Date:   Tue Apr 10 00:23:14 2018 +0200

    Add a basic contact merging feature to the address book, thanks to
    Charles Lehner <cel at celehner.com>.
    Closes bug 3346: Contact merging

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From dave at howorth.org.uk  Tue Apr 10 21:54:26 2018
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 20:54:26 +0100
Subject: [Users] error in display of empty quoted lines
In-Reply-To: <20180408223551.7072555f@kujata>
References: <20180407122515.5c3e45d4@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180407123134.6ddd0e7c@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180407181410.47c0bc36.shai@platonix.com>
 <20180407210425.73685786@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180408121814.1dfebefe@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180408124210.02c253b2@kujata>
 <20180408171932.3af31776@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180408200502.3e6ad2fa@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180408223551.7072555f@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180410205426.1bd42a78@acer-suse.lan>

On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 22:35:51 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 20:05:02 +0100
> Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote: 
> 
> > Quite why claws has ignored the completely blank line I don't
> > know.  
> 
> I don't suppose you tried my patch with this other message?

Sorry I haven't replied earlier; I've been busy with other things. I
haven't tried your patch at all yet, I'm afraid. I run a binary from
the distro repo and I don't want to run any risk of disturbing my mail.

I downloaded the source and have been reading it a bit but haven't
thought about compiling it and installing it somehow as a test system
that can't interfere with my real mail. Is there a how-to for that by
any chance?

I've been looking at procmime.c, which is where your patch applies, and
I don't see any quote character processing, except in the patch. I
haven't convinced myself how it is possible to process flowed messages
without the quote logic.

> Can you again share this message?

It's only the bit of text that I extracted that is significantly
different. It's another flowed post from a Thunderbird client.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Apr 11 14:54:33 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 12:54:33 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4006] Message List navigates wrong way with lists
 sorted in reverse date order
In-Reply-To: <bug-4006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4006-595-BiBLxl1zuT@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4006

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Apr 11 14:56:52 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 12:56:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3999] add support for enchant-2
In-Reply-To: <bug-3999-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3999-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3999-595-3ab90Pq8pm@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3999

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         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Apr 11 16:48:12 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 14:48:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3978] "From" column displays both name and email
 address for Outbox
In-Reply-To: <bug-3978-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3978-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3978-595-bnjR0jIVEF@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3978

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2018-04-11 16:46:03.364752856 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb5d15b3097c177299667e55f082d4abb0811df1
Merge: 036708d a7f84c5
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Wed Apr 11 16:46:02 2018 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=a7f84c556ea8ac3a99addcfbe14b42297b281655
Author: Paul <paul at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Wed Apr 11 15:45:55 2018 +0100

    fix bug 3978, '"From" column displays both name and email address for
Outbox'

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Apr 11 17:23:47 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 15:23:47 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4006] Message List navigates wrong way with lists
 sorted in reverse date order
In-Reply-To: <bug-4006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4006-595-jotBxGtZ7o@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4006

Chris Vine <vine35792468 at gmail.com> changed:

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         Resolution|INVALID                     |---

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Apr 11 17:26:17 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 15:26:17 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4006] Message List navigates wrong way with lists
 sorted in reverse date order
In-Reply-To: <bug-4006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4006-595-09ScKbB3Bo@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4006

--- Comment #2 from Chris Vine <vine35792468 at gmail.com> ---
Some one has marked this as invalid.  I have re-opened it as it is obviously
not invalid.  You cannot navigate the message list when sorted in reverse date
order in thread view correctly.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Apr 11 18:32:18 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 16:32:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4006] Message List navigates wrong way with lists
 sorted in reverse date order
In-Reply-To: <bug-4006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4006-595-kDwxS3JZBb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4006

--- Comment #3 from Chris Vine <vine35792468 at gmail.com> ---
Created attachment 1864
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1864&action=edit
Patch for message lists sorted in reverse date order

Attached is a patch which restores message lists sorted in reverse date order
so as to behave in the way they did in previous versions of claws-mail.

With claws-mail-3.16.0, you cannot properly navigate a message list sorted in
reverse date order when in thread view.  Pressing 'N' goes to the previous
message in the thread, and 'P' operates vice versa.  When in thread view, the
space bar does not operate at all (it should read the next unread message in
the thread) because the previous message in the thread has already been read.

The patch corrects this.  Arguably, when the end of a thread has been reached,
pressing the 'N' or spacebar key should move "upwards" in the way that
claws-mail-3.16 intends, but that would require a much more complicated patch. 
As mentioned, this patch restores the behavior of claws-mail so it works in the
same way as version-3.14.1 (I have not tested 3.15 to see how that behaves).

The patch applies to claws-mail-3.16.0.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Apr 11 19:03:14 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 17:03:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4006] Message List navigates wrong way with lists
 sorted in reverse date order
In-Reply-To: <bug-4006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4006-595-9az9q58Nla@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4006

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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From emninger at riseup.net  Thu Apr 12 17:08:06 2018
From: emninger at riseup.net (emninger at riseup.net)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 17:08:06 +0200
Subject: [Users] claws-mail thru tor by torsocks - how?
Message-ID: <20180412170806.64a5d71a.emninger@riseup.net>

Running claws-mail in manjaro i3 on a Sony Vaio i7

Although the instructions on torproject.org say claws-mail works with
tor (service), i'm unable to get it running thru tor.

Otoh, proxychains does the job. But as far as i read torsocks would be
to prefer over proxychains as a wrapper.

I've tor running at 127.0.0.1:9050

The error msg i get, when i try to start claws-mail via torsocks (by
'torsocks claws-mail') is:

'1523423670 WARNING torsocks[3605]: [syscall] Unsupported syscall
number 217. Denying the call (in tsocks_syscall() at syscall.c:488'

The torsocks.conf settings are (standard):
TorAddress 127.0.0.1
TorPort 9050
OnionAddrRange 127.42.42.0/24

The proxychains.conf settings are:
strict_chain
proxy_dns
remote_dns_subnet 224
localnet 192.168.10.0:80/255.255.255.0
socks5 	127.0.0.1 9050

After doing 'proxychains claws-mail' i get:
[proxychains] config file found: /etc/proxychains.conf
[proxychains] preloading /usr/lib/libproxychains4.so
[proxychains] DLL init: proxychains-ng 4.12
[proxychains] Strict chain  ...  127.0.0.1:9050  ...  mail.riseup.net

(i.e. all fine :) ).

Anyone out there has an idea?

Thanks a lot in advance!


From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Fri Apr 13 09:32:18 2018
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:32:18 +0200
Subject: [Users] Account specific keep messages unread
Message-ID: <20180413093218.17a64bb5@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

Normally, a new message is considered 'read' when it has been viewed for
mark_as_read_delay seconds.

I want to disable this behaviour for one of my accounts. This particular
mailbox is shared with others so messages should stay unread until someone
takes action.

Is this possible?

-- Johan


From subscript at free.fr  Fri Apr 13 09:41:30 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:41:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] Account specific keep messages unread
In-Reply-To: <20180413093218.17a64bb5@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
References: <20180413093218.17a64bb5@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <20180413094130.6e562c2e@ladybug>

Hello Johan,


On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:32:18 +0200 Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl> wrote:

> Normally, a new message is considered 'read' when it has been viewed for
> mark_as_read_delay seconds.
> 
> I want to disable this behaviour for one of my accounts. This particular
> mailbox is shared with others so messages should stay unread until someone
> takes action.
> 
> Is this possible?

In short, no.

Problem is that this mark_as_read_delay settings is global and not
account-specific, which means that in terms of internal design it's
definitely another thing. It could even be hard to implement this on a
per-account basis, this mostly depends how messages a distributed
(folders may not belong to only one account, what if you move messages
between folders, etc). Your concern is IMAP-related, right?

Maybe, this is a blind suggestion, maybe your problem could be
considered from another end? Like for instance, disabling this global
setting and for some folders, create a processing rule that would mark
unread emails as read following their age? I'm not sure if there's a
satisfying way but I must admit that I find the case a lil' bit
tortuous.


Regards,

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From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Fri Apr 13 09:50:43 2018
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:50:43 +0200
Subject: [Users] Account specific keep messages unread
In-Reply-To: <20180413094130.6e562c2e@ladybug>
References: <20180413093218.17a64bb5@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20180413094130.6e562c2e@ladybug>
Message-ID: <20180413095034.67a58b8c@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:41:30 +0200, wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:

> In short, no.
> [...] I must admit that I find the case a lil' bit tortuous.

I agree. Thanks for your time.


From info at uktvhub.com  Fri Apr 13 19:21:24 2018
From: info at uktvhub.com (UKTV Hub)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 19:21:24 +0200
Subject: [Users] Mail settings export.
Message-ID: <20180413192124.23f4077c@kevin-300E4A-300E5A-300E7A-3430EA-3530EA>

Hi all. Is there a way to backup or export the mail settings (I have 15
email accounts) from Claws Ubuntu to Claws windows 10 pls.

Thanks in advance.

Kev


From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Fri Apr 13 19:55:48 2018
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 11:55:48 -0600
Subject: [Users] Mail settings export.
In-Reply-To: <20180413192124.23f4077c@kevin-300E4A-300E5A-300E7A-3430EA-3530EA>
References: <20180413192124.23f4077c@kevin-300E4A-300E5A-300E7A-3430EA-3530EA>
Message-ID: <20180413115548.57633b27@hawk.localdomain>

On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 19:21:24 +0200
UKTV Hub <info at uktvhub.com> wrote:

> Hi all. Is there a way to backup or export the mail settings (I have
> 15 email accounts) from Claws Ubuntu to Claws windows 10 pls.

Probably, meaning I don't know about windows specific issues. Back up
~/.claws-mail.

In addition, claws preserves some information about any local mail
boxes. It will re-calculate it if need be. If you still want to back
that stuff up, back up wherever your mail local boxes are, normally
~/Mail.

If you do this routinely, look into using unison. I use it for Unix to
Unix backups.

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destroyed itself within. The essential causes of Rome's decline lay in
her people, her morals, her class struggle, her failing trade, her
bureaucratic despotism, her stifling taxes, her consuming wars.

-- Will and Ariel Durant, III The Story of Civilization (1944) epilogue


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Apr 13 21:35:19 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 19:35:19 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3993] Claws Mail connects to IMAP server when it
	should not
In-Reply-To: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3993-595-JiKBWYG0gr@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3993

--- Comment #22 from Ronald Smith <ronaldsmith200 at gmail.com> ---
I have tested and I can confirm this is a bug. No connections should be made
without explicit request or simply due to existence of pre/post filters.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Apr 13 23:26:41 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 21:26:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3993] Claws Mail connects to IMAP server when it
	should not
In-Reply-To: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3993-595-ubsTwoYv57@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3993

--- Comment #23 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
(In reply to comment #22)
> I have tested and I can confirm this is a bug. No connections should be made
> without explicit request or simply due to existence of pre/post filters.

I tested and could not reproduce it.

What are your pre- and post-processing rules? Note that processing rules only
get run on entering a folder or by manual use of a folder's processing rules
via the folder context menu.

If you are able to reproduce it, perhaps you can attach the debug log?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Apr 14 11:15:09 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 09:15:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3993] Claws Mail connects to IMAP server when it
	should not
In-Reply-To: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3993

--- Comment #24 from Ronald Smith <ronaldsmith200 at gmail.com> ---
I see the OP has shared a debug log. Why is that not enough?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Apr 14 11:22:23 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 09:22:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3993] Claws Mail connects to IMAP server when it
	should not
In-Reply-To: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3993

--- Comment #25 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
(In reply to comment #24)
> I see the OP has shared a debug log. Why is that not enough?

I know, but if you look at it you will see it is quite useless. I'm not asking
just for fun.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Apr 14 12:01:49 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 10:01:49 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3993] Claws Mail connects to IMAP server when it
	should not
In-Reply-To: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3993-595-w6gI061K0Z@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3993

--- Comment #26 from Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> ---
I've been curious enough as to give it a try, too, but couldn't reproduce it so
far.

What are the exact steps for reproducing it after a clean "rm -rf
~/.claws-mail"?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Apr 14 12:38:11 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 10:38:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3993] Claws Mail connects to IMAP server when it
	should not
In-Reply-To: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #27 from Removed after GDPR request <removed-gdpr at example.com> ---
The steps are:

1. rm -rf ~/.claws-mail
2. The STR from the OP - you won't see a connection to the YAHOO account
3. Add some pre or post filtering rule. Example:

[preglobal]
enabled rulename "testrule" unread color 1

4. Restart CM - you will see a connection to the YAHOO account

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From littlergirl at gmail.com  Sat Apr 14 12:54:10 2018
From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 06:54:10 -0400
Subject: [Users] Advance to next message when Trash is clicked
Message-ID: <5ad1ddf2.4128c80a.2693b.cf4e@mx.google.com>

Hey there,

I'm now using Claws Mail 3.13.2 after having used a much older version
for quite some time. In my older version (I don't have the version
number available), I was able to click the Trash button in the
toolbar while a message was selected in the message list. The message
would be marked as trash and the next available message would be
selected automatically, with locked messages being skipped. As a
result, I could repeatedly click the Trash button and it would
advance through the messages for me, marking each as trash.

I cannot do that in this version of Claws Mail. When I click the
Trash button, the current message is marked as trash and stays
selected without advancing to the next one. If I want to trash the
next message, I either have to click it with the mouse first or press
the down arrow first. I'd like the previous behavior back, if
possible.

I've been all through the settings several times and nothing is
leaping out at me as being the setting I need to change. Does anybody
know where I should look to toggle that behavior? Any help would be
appreciated.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Apr 14 13:45:06 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 11:45:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3993] Claws Mail connects to IMAP server when it
	should not
In-Reply-To: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3993-595-0JNAzIT6BQ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3993

--- Comment #28 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
I can reproduce this, but I get connection to both accounts, not just the
second one. It is because Claws Mail applies these global rules to all folders
it knows about during startup by calling this from main():

folder_func_to_all_folders(initial_processing, (gpointer *)mainwin);

This has been the case for many years, possibly even before Claws Mail was
originally forked from Sylpheed, so I'm not sure I would categorize this as
bug. Maybe we just need better user control about what happens on startup.

Perhaps an "Apply processing rules on startup" checkbox, either global or
per-account (or maybe even per-folder) ?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Apr 14 13:46:53 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 11:46:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3993] Claws Mail connects to IMAP server when it
	should not
In-Reply-To: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3993-595-z6MQhA6chA@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3993

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Created attachment 1865
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1865&action=edit
console output of STR

Here is how I test in order to isolate the issue. After creating the 2 accounts
(GMAIL and YAHOO) I delete everything except the files shown in the output of
the tree command and back this up in a dir named TEST. The clawsrc file is the
default one which CM creates. Then I run the commands shown.

Using the same procedure anyone should be able to generate one's own debug logs
with full details.

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From ticho at claws-mail.org  Sat Apr 14 13:53:11 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 13:53:11 +0200
Subject: [Users] Advance to next message when Trash is clicked
In-Reply-To: <5ad1ddf2.4128c80a.2693b.cf4e@mx.google.com>
References: <5ad1ddf2.4128c80a.2693b.cf4e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <20180414135311.228b5934@penny>

On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 06:54:10 -0400
Little Girl <littlergirl at gmail.com> wrote:

> I cannot do that in this version of Claws Mail. When I click the
> Trash button, the current message is marked as trash and stays
> selected without advancing to the next one. If I want to trash the
> next message, I either have to click it with the mouse first or press
> the down arrow first. I'd like the previous behavior back, if
> possible.

Try enabling the "Execute immediately when moving or deleting messages"
checkbox in preferences on Summaries page.

Regards,
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Apr 14 13:57:07 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 11:57:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3993] Claws Mail connects to IMAP server when it
	should not
In-Reply-To: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3993-595-g5uD7x8cCE@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3993

--- Comment #30 from Removed after GDPR request <removed-gdpr at example.com> ---
> I can reproduce this, but I get connection to both accounts, not just the second one.

Yes, same here. Thanks for confirming.

> so I'm not sure I would categorize this as bug.

Perhaps it can be categorized as a potential privacy issue. If one starts the
program one doesn't need to inform all the IMAP servers "Hey, I started my mail
client". One may simply want to read RSS without connecting to any IMAP
accounts etc.

> Perhaps an "Apply processing rules on startup" checkbox, either global or per-account (or maybe even per-folder) ?

Per-account and per-folder sounds like an overkill. Also while a global option
may sound as a good idea it is somewhat "fighting" with the other options like
"Check for mail at startup" and not checking a particular account. IOW: there
already are options what to check and when so it would make more sense the
program logic to follow those preferences rather than initiate connections on
its own.

Thinking about all this from a privacy perspective: it would be good to have an
option to disable the "NOOP" commands sent every now and then without going
offline. If mail should be checked for example every 30 minutes, there is
hardly any point to tell the server "Well, I am not checking my mail but you
should know that I am online". All this background chattering only helps the
companies to create better analytics and profile us more and more deeply.
Perhaps this needs a separate bug report?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Apr 14 14:19:34 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 12:19:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3993] Claws Mail connects to IMAP server when it
	should not
In-Reply-To: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3993-595-lYKi4vDx3l@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3993

--- Comment #31 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
(In reply to comment #30)
> Per-account and per-folder sounds like an overkill. Also while a global
> option may sound as a good idea it is somewhat "fighting" with the other
> options like "Check for mail at startup" and not checking a particular
> account. IOW: there already are options what to check and when so it would
> make more sense the program logic to follow those preferences rather than
> initiate connections on its own.

Fair enough, that was just the first idea that popped into my mind. :) Maybe it
would be simpler just to skip IMAP (or any other remote) folders for this
"initial processing" if appropriate.

> Thinking about all this from a privacy perspective: it would be good to have
> an option to disable the "NOOP" commands sent every now and then without
> going offline. If mail should be checked for example every 30 minutes, there
> is hardly any point to tell the server "Well, I am not checking my mail but
> you should know that I am online". All this background chattering only helps
> the companies to create better analytics and profile us more and more
> deeply. Perhaps this needs a separate bug report?

Yes, this is an entirely separate topic, just like your mention elsewhere about
optionally not connecting to a newly added IMAP account.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Apr 14 14:23:49 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 12:23:49 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4008] New: Provide an option to disable automatic NOOP
	commands
Message-ID: <bug-4008-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4008

            Bug ID: 4008
           Summary: Provide an option to disable automatic NOOP commands
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.16.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders/IMAP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com

It would be good to have an option to disable the automatic "NOOP" commands for
IMAP sent every now and then without going offline. If mail should be checked
for example every 30 minutes, there is hardly any point to tell the server
"Well, I am not checking my mail but you should know that I am online". All
this background chattering only helps the service providers to create better
analytics and profile us more and more deeply.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Apr 14 14:26:49 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 12:26:49 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4009] New: Automatic connection to newly added IMAP
	accout
Message-ID: <bug-4009-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4009

            Bug ID: 4009
           Summary: Automatic connection to newly added IMAP accout
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.16.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders/IMAP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com

It seems CM connects automatically to the server of a newly added IMAP account
although the user may not want an instantaneous connection. If the user has
control on the software he should be the one to explicitly ask for connection
(either through pressing the "Get mail" button or otherwise).

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Apr 14 14:29:00 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 12:29:00 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3993] Claws Mail connects to IMAP server when it
	should not
In-Reply-To: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3993-595-Q4PxbsPQAI@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3993

--- Comment #32 from Removed after GDPR request <removed-gdpr at example.com> ---
> Yes, this is an entirely separate topic...

OK. Added bug reports for both things: 4008 and 4009.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Apr 14 14:29:19 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 12:29:19 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4009] Automatic connection to newly added IMAP account
In-Reply-To: <bug-4009-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4009-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4009-595-4tvYPZQ9ye@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4009

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           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
            Summary|Automatic connection to     |Automatic connection to
                   |newly added IMAP accout     |newly added IMAP account

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Apr 14 14:33:09 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 12:33:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3993] Claws Mail connects to IMAP server when it
	should not
In-Reply-To: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3993-595-pbzXsI238Z@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3993

--- Comment #33 from Removed after GDPR request <removed-gdpr at example.com> ---
Now that this is a confirmed and reproduced issue, can someone please consider
reopening this bug and hopefully fixing it? After so many hours of testing to
find the issue it would be a pity to leave it to sink.

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From charles at stremen.xs4all.nl  Sat Apr 14 14:36:33 2018
From: charles at stremen.xs4all.nl (Charles Stroom)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 14:36:33 +0200
Subject: [Users] when deleting a message, the previous message becomes active
Message-ID: <20180414143633.499ab8bc@fiume7.localnet>


Hey all,

when I delete a message from the summary list (the right-hand upper
part of the claws window), the message is deleted, but the previous
message becomes active in stead of the next message. Say I have 5
messages (A-E) in the summary list and C is active (highlighted) and I
push "delete" then C is gone to "Trash" and B is now highlighted. This
was not the case in a previous version, there D would highlighted.  The
current behaviour is a bit annoying and I would hope there is a setting
to change it but I have been unable to find one.  This is with Claws
Mail version 3.13.2, as RPM provided by Opensuse Leap 42.3.

The exception: if "A" is highlighted and deleted, then "B" becomes
highlighted.

Charles


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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Apr 14 14:43:10 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 13:43:10 +0100
Subject: [Users] when deleting a message,
 the previous message becomes active
In-Reply-To: <20180414143633.499ab8bc@fiume7.localnet>
References: <20180414143633.499ab8bc@fiume7.localnet>
Message-ID: <20180414134310.1a710724@kujata>

On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 14:36:33 +0200
Charles Stroom <charles at stremen.xs4all.nl> wrote: 

> I would hope there is a setting
> to change it but I have been unable to find one.

See http://claws-mail.org/NEWS for details of all the changes between
your previous version and your current version.

Here you will see, among other items, this:

* A hidden pref has been added, 'next_on_delete'. This controls the
  message selection when a message is deleted. A setting of '0'
  which cause the previous, older message to be selected, a setting
  of '1' will cause the next, newer message to be selected.


with regards

Paul


From charles at stremen.xs4all.nl  Sat Apr 14 16:17:48 2018
From: charles at stremen.xs4all.nl (Charles Stroom)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 16:17:48 +0200
Subject: [Users] when deleting a message,
 the previous message becomes active
In-Reply-To: <20180414134310.1a710724@kujata>
References: <20180414143633.499ab8bc@fiume7.localnet>
 <20180414134310.1a710724@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180414161748.342812d3@fiume7.localnet>

Thank you very much and I looked at the user manual on the web site and
found the next_to_delete setting.  It changed indeed the behaviour and
I played a bit with the option (changing between 0 and 1 and back) and
to my surprise at present the setting is next_on_delete=0, but it
highlights the next message (as if it were =1).  Still I am happy
because it works again as I prefer.

I tried to find another option to suppress the confirmation pop-up
dialogue when deleting a message, but could not find anything of the
kind in NEWS or manual.  Does such an option exist?

Kind regards,

Charles


On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 13:43:10 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 14:36:33 +0200
> Charles Stroom <charles at stremen.xs4all.nl> wrote: 
> 
> > I would hope there is a setting
> > to change it but I have been unable to find one.  
> 
> See http://claws-mail.org/NEWS for details of all the changes between
> your previous version and your current version.
> 
> Here you will see, among other items, this:
> 
> * A hidden pref has been added, 'next_on_delete'. This controls the
>   message selection when a message is deleted. A setting of '0'
>   which cause the previous, older message to be selected, a setting
>   of '1' will cause the next, newer message to be selected.
> 
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
> 


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From pf at pfortin.com  Sat Apr 14 17:25:28 2018
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 11:25:28 -0400
Subject: [Users] Exiting from Preferences for current account...
Message-ID: <20180414112528.260adc6e@pfortin.com>

A nit; but I haven't found the cause...

I run 2 instances of CM:

1. Access Preferences for current account...
   Cancel|OK returns to CM

2. Access Preferences for current account...
   Cancel|OK opens Edit Accounts (can't imagine a reason for doing so)

Initially assumed a bug; but instance 1 doesn't do this, so there must be
a setting I can't find...

Pierre


From littlergirl at gmail.com  Sat Apr 14 17:25:02 2018
From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 11:25:02 -0400
Subject: [Users] Advance to next message when Trash is clicked
In-Reply-To: <20180414135311.228b5934@penny>
References: <5ad1ddf2.4128c80a.2693b.cf4e@mx.google.com>
 <20180414135311.228b5934@penny>
Message-ID: <5ad21d6c.033aed0a.f6790.2da7@mx.google.com>

Hey there,

Andrej Kacian wrote:
> Little Girl wrote:
> 
> > I cannot do that in this version of Claws Mail. When I click the
> > Trash button, the current message is marked as trash and stays
> > selected without advancing to the next one. If I want to trash the
> > next message, I either have to click it with the mouse first or
> > press the down arrow first. I'd like the previous behavior back,
> > if possible.  
> 
> Try enabling the "Execute immediately when moving or deleting
> messages" checkbox in preferences on Summaries page.

Thanks. It's not quite what I was after, but it's better than how
it's been recently, so I'll use it.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Apr 14 17:32:56 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 15:32:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4010] New: Allow "Enable remote content" on per folder
	basis
Message-ID: <bug-4010-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4010

            Bug ID: 4010
           Summary: Allow "Enable remote content" on per folder basis
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: pf at pfortin.com

I get regular mail from a few sources I trust, and have "Select the HTML part
of multipart messages" set to Yes; but always need to click+select "Enable
remote content" to view these messages.

Adding a folder option to "Enable remote content" automatically would speed
mail handling.

Thanks

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.


From ticho at claws-mail.org  Sat Apr 14 17:35:52 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 17:35:52 +0200
Subject: [Users] Advance to next message when Trash is clicked
In-Reply-To: <5ad21d6c.033aed0a.f6790.2da7@mx.google.com>
References: <5ad1ddf2.4128c80a.2693b.cf4e@mx.google.com>
 <20180414135311.228b5934@penny>
 <5ad21d6c.033aed0a.f6790.2da7@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <20180414173552.5de95d5b@penny>

On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 11:25:02 -0400
Little Girl <littlergirl at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey there,
> 
> Andrej Kacian wrote:
> > Little Girl wrote:
> >   
> > > I cannot do that in this version of Claws Mail. When I click the
> > > Trash button, the current message is marked as trash and stays
> > > selected without advancing to the next one. If I want to trash the
> > > next message, I either have to click it with the mouse first or
> > > press the down arrow first. I'd like the previous behavior back,
> > > if possible.    
> > 
> > Try enabling the "Execute immediately when moving or deleting
> > messages" checkbox in preferences on Summaries page.  
> 
> Thanks. It's not quite what I was after, but it's better than how
> it's been recently, so I'll use it.

May I ask what detail exactly are you missing from the previous versions
here?

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From liste at secarica.ro  Sat Apr 14 17:48:01 2018
From: liste at secarica.ro (Cristian =?UTF-8?Q?Secar=C4=83?=)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 18:48:01 +0300
Subject: [Users] Advance to next message when Trash is clicked
In-Reply-To: <5ad1ddf2.4128c80a.2693b.cf4e@mx.google.com>
References: <5ad1ddf2.4128c80a.2693b.cf4e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <20180414184801.00005687@secarica.ro>

În data de Sat, 14 Apr 2018 06:54:10 -0400, Little Girl a scris:

> In my older version (I don't have the version
> number available), I was able to click the Trash button in the
> toolbar while a message was selected in the message list. The message
> would be marked as trash and the next available message would be
> selected automatically, with locked messages being skipped.

Cannot tell about locked messages, but in 3.16.0 (Windows), when clicking on the trash icon, the current message is marked as deleted and then the cursor (horizontal highlight) goes to the next message (down, in my case). The marked message(s) gets deleted only when clicking the execute icon.

Thus, on my setup, this sounds like your old/desired behaviour.

Could be some trouble with the particular 3.13.2 version ?
Could be it has something to do with the folder sort order ?

Cristi

-- 
Cristian Secară
http://www.secărică.ro


From littlergirl at gmail.com  Sat Apr 14 18:24:55 2018
From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 12:24:55 -0400
Subject: [Users] Advance to next message when Trash is clicked
In-Reply-To: <20180414173552.5de95d5b@penny>
References: <5ad1ddf2.4128c80a.2693b.cf4e@mx.google.com>
 <20180414135311.228b5934@penny>
 <5ad21d6c.033aed0a.f6790.2da7@mx.google.com>
 <20180414173552.5de95d5b@penny>
Message-ID: <5ad22b7e.ee23ed0a.cdecd.fd89@mx.google.com>

Hey there,

Andrej Kacian wrote:
> Little Girl wrote:
> > Andrej Kacian wrote:  
> > >     
> > > Try enabling the "Execute immediately when moving or deleting
> > > messages" checkbox in preferences on Summaries page.    
> > 
> > Thanks. It's not quite what I was after, but it's better than how
> > it's been recently, so I'll use it.  
> 
> May I ask what detail exactly are you missing from the previous
> versions here?

Sure. In the previous version, it would mark the message with a flag
and advance to the next message. Then, when I would leave the Inbox
to go to another folder, it would pop up a confirmation message
asking me if I'd like to follow through on the flagged messages. If I
said yes, they would all be trashed at once.

In this current version, it would mark the message with a flag and
stay on the same message until I manually advanced to another message
with the mouse or an arrow key. Then, when I would leave the inbox to
go to another folder, it would pop up a confirmation message
asking if I'd like to follow through on the flagged messages. If I
said yes, they would all be trashed at once.

Now, with your suggestion in place, it immediately trashes the
message and moves to the next message.

I'm currently pleased that your solution gets Claws Mail to advance
to the next message when I click the Trash button or press the Del
key, but I'd prefer the messages to just be flagged like they used to
be and ask for confirmation when I leave the folder. That's the
work flow I've been using for years and I liked it. I'll use it this
way, though. It's better than having to manually move from one
message to the next after clicking the Trash button.

-- 
Little Girl

There is no spoon.


From littlergirl at gmail.com  Sat Apr 14 18:42:18 2018
From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 12:42:18 -0400
Subject: [Users] Advance to next message when Trash is clicked
In-Reply-To: <20180414184801.00005687@secarica.ro>
References: <5ad1ddf2.4128c80a.2693b.cf4e@mx.google.com>
 <20180414184801.00005687@secarica.ro>
Message-ID: <5ad22f93.0247c80a.ebbea.d0f6@mx.google.com>

Hey there,

Cristian Secară wrote:
> În data de Sat, 14 Apr 2018 06:54:10 -0400, Little Girl a scris:
> 
> > In my older version (I don't have the version
> > number available), I was able to click the Trash button in the
> > toolbar while a message was selected in the message list. The
> > message would be marked as trash and the next available message
> > would be selected automatically, with locked messages being
> > skipped.  
> 
> Cannot tell about locked messages, but in 3.16.0 (Windows), when
> clicking on the trash icon, the current message is marked as
> deleted and then the cursor (horizontal highlight) goes to the next
> message (down, in my case). The marked message(s) gets deleted only
> when clicking the execute icon.

Interesting. Where is the execute icon?
 
> Thus, on my setup, this sounds like your old/desired behaviour.

Yes. That definitely sounds more like what I'm used to and what I'm
after.

> Could be some trouble with the particular 3.13.2 version ?

Maybe. I may have to use the PPA to grab a more recent version since
Ubuntu MATE LTS considers this one to be up-to-date.

> Could be it has something to do with the folder sort order ?

I doubt it. That hasn't changed and there's nothing unusual in my
set-up. I've got the default folders and one additional parent folder
with about 230 child folders, none of which have child folders in
them. All messages are in the default or child folders, and none are
stored directly in the parent folder.

Until you chimed in, it had occurred to me that Linux Mint (my
previous operating system) may have intervened in some way and
enhanced the Claws Mail features, but now it's looking more like a
version issue, which means the PPA might solve this completely.

-- 
Little Girl

There is no spoon.


From liste at secarica.ro  Sat Apr 14 19:22:04 2018
From: liste at secarica.ro (Cristian =?UTF-8?Q?Secar=C4=83?=)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 20:22:04 +0300
Subject: [Users] Advance to next message when Trash is clicked
In-Reply-To: <5ad22f93.0247c80a.ebbea.d0f6@mx.google.com>
References: <5ad1ddf2.4128c80a.2693b.cf4e@mx.google.com>
 <20180414184801.00005687@secarica.ro>
 <5ad22f93.0247c80a.ebbea.d0f6@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <20180414202204.00000377@secarica.ro>

În data de Sat, 14 Apr 2018 12:42:18 -0400, Little Girl a scris:

> The marked message(s) gets deleted only when clicking the execute
> icon.
> 
> Interesting. Where is the execute icon?

It should be manually added in Configuration -> Preferences... -> Toolbars -> Main Window

Cristi

-- 
Cristian Secară
http://www.secărică.ro


From littlergirl at gmail.com  Sat Apr 14 19:30:37 2018
From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 13:30:37 -0400
Subject: [Users] Advance to next message when Trash is clicked
In-Reply-To: <20180414202204.00000377@secarica.ro>
References: <5ad1ddf2.4128c80a.2693b.cf4e@mx.google.com>
 <20180414184801.00005687@secarica.ro>
 <5ad22f93.0247c80a.ebbea.d0f6@mx.google.com>
 <20180414202204.00000377@secarica.ro>
Message-ID: <5ad23acb.c706c80a.f5fce.37b2@mx.google.com>

Hey there,

Cristian Secară wrote:
> În data de Sat, 14 Apr 2018 12:42:18 -0400, Little Girl a scris:
> 
> > Interesting. Where is the execute icon?  
> 
> It should be manually added in Configuration -> Preferences... ->
> Toolbars -> Main Window

Ah, okay, thank you. I'll make a note of it for when I get that
version of Claws Mail. Will it also give you a confirmation message
if you don't click the Execute button and you leave the folder you're
currently in?

I took a look at the PPA and it seems that it's not even at the
version I'm at, let alone your version, so I'll wait before making a
change and just fumble along with it as it currently is:

https://launchpad.net/~claws-mail/+archive/ubuntu/ppa

-- 
Little Girl

There is no spoon.


From liste at secarica.ro  Sat Apr 14 19:51:39 2018
From: liste at secarica.ro (Cristian =?UTF-8?Q?Secar=C4=83?=)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 20:51:39 +0300
Subject: [Users] Advance to next message when Trash is clicked
In-Reply-To: <5ad23acb.c706c80a.f5fce.37b2@mx.google.com>
References: <5ad1ddf2.4128c80a.2693b.cf4e@mx.google.com>
 <20180414184801.00005687@secarica.ro>
 <5ad22f93.0247c80a.ebbea.d0f6@mx.google.com>
 <20180414202204.00000377@secarica.ro>
 <5ad23acb.c706c80a.f5fce.37b2@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <20180414205139.00006960@secarica.ro>

În data de Sat, 14 Apr 2018 13:30:37 -0400, Little Girl a scris:

> > It should be manually added in Configuration -> Preferences... ->
> > Toolbars -> Main Window  
> 
> Ah, okay, thank you. I'll make a note of it for when I get that
> version of Claws Mail.

I suppose you already have that in preferences. It was the same in
Sylpheed long ago, so it should be there already in Claws Mail (?).

> Will it also give you a confirmation message if you don't click the
> Execute button and you leave the folder you're currently in?

Currently the confirmation is required only when leaving the folder
with marked messages in place, but not for the execute button. However,
I cannot remember if there was in fact such a confirmation message
even for the execute button with a checkbox like "don't remind me
again" which perhaps I checked at one point.

As a personal preference, I would have liked that the trash action to
perform in a toggle manner, i.e. pressing delete key or clicking trash
icon on already marked for deletion message to un-mark it.

Cristi

-- 
Cristian Secarã
http://www.secãricã.ro


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Apr 14 20:03:14 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 19:03:14 +0100
Subject: [Users] Advance to next message when Trash is clicked
In-Reply-To: <20180414205139.00006960@secarica.ro>
References: <5ad1ddf2.4128c80a.2693b.cf4e@mx.google.com>
 <20180414184801.00005687@secarica.ro>
 <5ad22f93.0247c80a.ebbea.d0f6@mx.google.com>
 <20180414202204.00000377@secarica.ro>
 <5ad23acb.c706c80a.f5fce.37b2@mx.google.com>
 <20180414205139.00006960@secarica.ro>
Message-ID: <20180414190314.23a1ad48@kujata>

On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 20:51:39 +0300
Cristian Secară <liste at secarica.ro> wrote: 

> I suppose you already have that in preferences. It was the same in
> Sylpheed long ago, so it should be there already in Claws Mail (?).

Actually it was in claws-mail (then named sylpheed-claws) before it
was in sylpheed. :)

with regards

Paul


From lfiskgr at gmail.com  Sat Apr 14 20:17:10 2018
From: lfiskgr at gmail.com (Leon Fisk)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 14:17:10 -0400
Subject: [Users] Advance to next message when Trash is clicked
In-Reply-To: <5ad23acb.c706c80a.f5fce.37b2@mx.google.com>
References: <5ad1ddf2.4128c80a.2693b.cf4e@mx.google.com>
 <20180414184801.00005687@secarica.ro>
 <5ad22f93.0247c80a.ebbea.d0f6@mx.google.com>
 <20180414202204.00000377@secarica.ro>
 <5ad23acb.c706c80a.f5fce.37b2@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <5ad245a9.0b686b0a.70341.5f59@mx.google.com>

On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 13:30:37 -0400
Little Girl <littlergirl at gmail.com> wrote:

<huge snip>

There used to be a hidden preference:

next_on_delete=1

in the "clawsrc" file in your .claws-mail directory. I tried switching
it back and forth but it didn't seem to work on this build. You might
want to check that. Not sure if it was suppose to work with "trash"
too...

You can change it via the "clawsker" utility program also. Make
sure you quit claws first before making changes...

-- 
Leon
Claws 3.16.0, Ubuntu Lucid


From littlergirl at gmail.com  Sat Apr 14 20:27:01 2018
From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 14:27:01 -0400
Subject: [Users] Advance to next message when Trash is clicked
In-Reply-To: <20180414205139.00006960@secarica.ro>
References: <5ad1ddf2.4128c80a.2693b.cf4e@mx.google.com>
 <20180414184801.00005687@secarica.ro>
 <5ad22f93.0247c80a.ebbea.d0f6@mx.google.com>
 <20180414202204.00000377@secarica.ro>
 <5ad23acb.c706c80a.f5fce.37b2@mx.google.com>
 <20180414205139.00006960@secarica.ro>
Message-ID: <5ad24805.4572c80a.bf7bc.d39b@mx.google.com>

Hey there,

Cristian Secară wrote:
> În data de Sat, 14 Apr 2018 13:30:37 -0400, Little Girl a scris:
> 
> > > It should be manually added in Configuration -> Preferences...
> > > -> Toolbars -> Main Window    
> > 
> > Ah, okay, thank you. I'll make a note of it for when I get that
> > version of Claws Mail.  
> 
> I suppose you already have that in preferences. It was the same in
> Sylpheed long ago, so it should be there already in Claws Mail (?).

I don't see it. I have these:

Main Window: Compose, Send, Stop, Preferences, and Trash.

Message Window: Reply, All, Sender, Forward, Trash, Spam, and Next.

Compose Window: Draft, Insert, Attach, Address, and Send.
 
> > Will it also give you a confirmation message if you don't click
> > the Execute button and you leave the folder you're currently in?  
> 
> Currently the confirmation is required only when leaving the folder
> with marked messages in place, but not for the execute button.

That's perfect, and exactly what I'd like it to do.

> However, I cannot remember if there was in fact such a confirmation
> message even for the execute button with a checkbox like "don't
> remind me again" which perhaps I checked at one point.

With what you just said above, I wouldn't even need the execute
button.

> As a personal preference, I would have liked that the trash action
> to perform in a toggle manner, i.e. pressing delete key or clicking
> trash icon on already marked for deletion message to un-mark it.

You'd have to return to the message you just trashed manually to
accomplish that if it was an available option. Even with mine not
behaving properly, repeatedly clicking the Trash button does nothing.

I agree, though, that it would be nice to have some sort of one-click
way of toggling marked message flags.

-- 
Little Girl

There is no spoon.


From littlergirl at gmail.com  Sat Apr 14 20:32:28 2018
From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 14:32:28 -0400
Subject: [Users] Advance to next message when Trash is clicked - [solved]
In-Reply-To: <5ad245a9.0b686b0a.70341.5f59@mx.google.com>
References: <5ad1ddf2.4128c80a.2693b.cf4e@mx.google.com>
 <20180414184801.00005687@secarica.ro>
 <5ad22f93.0247c80a.ebbea.d0f6@mx.google.com>
 <20180414202204.00000377@secarica.ro>
 <5ad23acb.c706c80a.f5fce.37b2@mx.google.com>
 <5ad245a9.0b686b0a.70341.5f59@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <5ad2495c.c77c370a.4f046.c450@mx.google.com>

Hey there,

Leon Fisk wrote:
>Little Girl wrote:

>There used to be a hidden preference:
>
>next_on_delete=1
>
>in the "clawsrc" file in your .claws-mail directory. I tried
>switching it back and forth but it didn't seem to work on this
>build. You might want to check that. Not sure if it was suppose to
>work with "trash" too...
>
>You can change it via the "clawsker" utility program also. Make
>sure you quit claws first before making changes...

That worked! Now it's working exactly as I want it to! Thank you so
much!

-- 
Little Girl

There is no spoon.


From ticho at claws-mail.org  Sat Apr 14 21:06:03 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 21:06:03 +0200
Subject: [Users] Advance to next message when Trash is clicked
In-Reply-To: <5ad22b7e.ee23ed0a.cdecd.fd89@mx.google.com>
References: <5ad1ddf2.4128c80a.2693b.cf4e@mx.google.com>
 <20180414135311.228b5934@penny>
 <5ad21d6c.033aed0a.f6790.2da7@mx.google.com>
 <20180414173552.5de95d5b@penny>
 <5ad22b7e.ee23ed0a.cdecd.fd89@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <20180414210603.5cf89181@penny>

On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 12:24:55 -0400
Little Girl <littlergirl at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm currently pleased that your solution gets Claws Mail to advance
> to the next message when I click the Trash button or press the Del
> key, but I'd prefer the messages to just be flagged like they used to
> be and ask for confirmation when I leave the folder. That's the
> work flow I've been using for years and I liked it. I'll use it this
> way, though. It's better than having to manually move from one
> message to the next after clicking the Trash button.

I can understand how that would be annoying, but I think it is
something that has been fixed in the newer Claws Mail versions, because
when I disable the "Execute immediately ..." checkbox, Claws Mail
advances to the next message after marking current message for deletion
or for moving to trash. By your X-Mailer header, you're using version
3.13.2, which is a few years old by now. :)

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From littlergirl at gmail.com  Sat Apr 14 21:14:29 2018
From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 15:14:29 -0400
Subject: [Users] Advance to next message when Trash is clicked
In-Reply-To: <20180414210603.5cf89181@penny>
References: <5ad1ddf2.4128c80a.2693b.cf4e@mx.google.com>
 <20180414135311.228b5934@penny>
 <5ad21d6c.033aed0a.f6790.2da7@mx.google.com>
 <20180414173552.5de95d5b@penny>
 <5ad22b7e.ee23ed0a.cdecd.fd89@mx.google.com>
 <20180414210603.5cf89181@penny>
Message-ID: <5ad2532a.45b9370a.9810a.d5f9@mx.google.com>

Hey there,

Andrej Kacian wrote:
>Little Girl <littlergirl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'd prefer the messages to just be flagged like they used to be
>> and ask for confirmation when I leave the folder. That's the work
>> flow I've been using for years and I liked it. I'll use it this
>> way, though. It's better than having to manually move from one
>> message to the next after clicking the Trash button.  
>
>I can understand how that would be annoying, but I think it is
>something that has been fixed in the newer Claws Mail versions,
>because when I disable the "Execute immediately ..." checkbox, Claws
>Mail advances to the next message after marking current message for
>deletion or for moving to trash. By your X-Mailer header, you're
>using version 3.13.2, which is a few years old by now. :)

Yep, and there's not much that can be done about it without building
it myself. The highest PPA version is 3.11.something, which is even
older than mine. This has been solved with a quick edit in the
clawsrc file, though, so all is well.

-- 
Little Girl

There is no spoon.


From a.meyer at nimmini.de  Sat Apr 14 21:29:06 2018
From: a.meyer at nimmini.de (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 21:29:06 +0200
Subject: [Users] Importing maildir emails from kmail to claws-mail
Message-ID: <20180414212906.66a23d3b.a.meyer@nimmini.de>

Hello!

Is it possible to import email from kmail, which is in maildir format?

Kind regards

  Andreas

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Apr 14 21:36:13 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 20:36:13 +0100
Subject: [Users] Importing maildir emails from kmail to claws-mail
In-Reply-To: <20180414212906.66a23d3b.a.meyer@nimmini.de>
References: <20180414212906.66a23d3b.a.meyer@nimmini.de>
Message-ID: <20180414203613.0dc197e7@kujata>

On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 21:29:06 +0200
Andreas Meyer <a.meyer at nimmini.de> wrote: 

> Is it possible to import email from kmail, which is in maildir
> format?

There's a script here that does just that:
http://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php

with regards

Paul


From a.meyer at nimmini.de  Sat Apr 14 21:44:17 2018
From: a.meyer at nimmini.de (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 21:44:17 +0200
Subject: [Users] Importing maildir emails from kmail to claws-mail
In-Reply-To: <20180414203613.0dc197e7@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180414214417.56650c79.a.meyer@nimmini.de>

Hello!

Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> schrieb am 14.04.18 um 20:36:13 Uhr:

> On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 21:29:06 +0200
> Andreas Meyer <a.meyer at nimmini.de> wrote: 
> 
> > Is it possible to import email from kmail, which is in maildir
> > format?  
> 
> There's a script here that does just that:
> http://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php

Can this claws-mail_kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.tar.gz be used for maildir format?

Kind regards

  Andreas

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Apr 14 21:50:28 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 20:50:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] Importing maildir emails from kmail to claws-mail
In-Reply-To: <20180414214417.56650c79.a.meyer@nimmini.de>
References: <20180414203613.0dc197e7@kujata>
 <20180414214417.56650c79.a.meyer@nimmini.de>
Message-ID: <20180414205028.74f6b15e@kujata>

On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 21:44:17 +0200
Andreas Meyer <a.meyer at nimmini.de> wrote: 

> Can this claws-mail_kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.tar.gz be used for
> maildir format?


I refer you to my previous response.

with regards

Paul


From shai at platonix.com  Sun Apr 15 02:09:53 2018
From: shai at platonix.com (Shai Berger)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 03:09:53 +0300
Subject: [Users] Importing maildir emails from kmail to claws-mail
In-Reply-To: <20180414205028.74f6b15e@kujata>
References: <20180414203613.0dc197e7@kujata>
 <20180414214417.56650c79.a.meyer@nimmini.de>
 <20180414205028.74f6b15e@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180415030953.7d73b209.shai@platonix.com>

Hi Paul, Andreas,

On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 20:50:28 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 21:44:17 +0200
> Andreas Meyer <a.meyer at nimmini.de> wrote: 
> 
> > Can this claws-mail_kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.tar.gz be used for
> > maildir format?  
> 

Yes, it can, but I think you'll be better off using the attached -- It
improves upon the existing kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.pl (as far as my
Perl reading goes) by preserving "unread" and "replied" state in the
messages.

If you also have filters you'd like to translate from KMail to
Claws-Mail, I have scripts for that too.

Have fun,
	Shai.
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From liste at secarica.ro  Sun Apr 15 09:41:43 2018
From: liste at secarica.ro (Cristian =?UTF-8?Q?Secar=C4=83?=)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 10:41:43 +0300
Subject: [Users] Advance to next message when Trash is clicked
In-Reply-To: <5ad24805.4572c80a.bf7bc.d39b@mx.google.com>
References: <5ad1ddf2.4128c80a.2693b.cf4e@mx.google.com>
 <20180414184801.00005687@secarica.ro>
 <5ad22f93.0247c80a.ebbea.d0f6@mx.google.com>
 <20180414202204.00000377@secarica.ro>
 <5ad23acb.c706c80a.f5fce.37b2@mx.google.com>
 <20180414205139.00006960@secarica.ro>
 <5ad24805.4572c80a.bf7bc.d39b@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <20180415104143.000033e8@secarica.ro>

În data de Sat, 14 Apr 2018 14:27:01 -0400, Little Girl a scris:

> I don't see it. I have these:
> 
> Main Window: Compose, Send, Stop, Preferences, and Trash.

In preferences I have these:
http://www.secarica.ro/misc/claws_mail_preferences_toolbar.png

Note: for this snapshot I launched the program with set lang=en environment in order for the UI to display in English overall, but the actual selected toolbar items shows still translated in my language since these are stored in a separate .xml file (but they can be guessed by their icon)

Cristi

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From a.meyer at nimmini.de  Sun Apr 15 11:59:05 2018
From: a.meyer at nimmini.de (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 11:59:05 +0200
Subject: [Users] Importing maildir emails from kmail to claws-mail
In-Reply-To: <20180415030953.7d73b209.shai@platonix.com>
Message-ID: <20180415115905.1ccd5582.a.meyer@nimmini.de>

Hello!

Shai Berger <shai at platonix.com> schrieb am 15.04.18 um 03:09:53 Uhr:

> Hi Paul, Andreas,
> 
> On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 20:50:28 +0100
> Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 21:44:17 +0200
> > Andreas Meyer <a.meyer at nimmini.de> wrote: 
> >   
> > > Can this claws-mail_kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.tar.gz be used for
> > > maildir format?    
> >   
> 
> Yes, it can, but I think you'll be better off using the attached -- It
> improves upon the existing kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.pl (as far as my
> Perl reading goes) by preserving "unread" and "replied" state in the
> messages.

Thank you for the script! I'll give it to the person who has this problems
with kmail. It's not me myself.

> If you also have filters you'd like to translate from KMail to
> Claws-Mail, I have scripts for that too.

I'll come back if it's necessarry.

> Have fun,
> 	Shai.

Have a nice day!

  Andreas

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From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Sun Apr 15 20:57:12 2018
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 11:57:12 -0700
Subject: [Users] Small question
Message-ID: <20180415115712.05fad7fb@frogguski.911networks.com>

CM 3.16.0 on Manjaro

Here's a screen capture:

https://i.imgur.com/Fv9DZVf.png

What's the up caret at the bottom right the CM screen? When I click
on it it does nothing.

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vyS


From richardkimber at btinternet.com  Sun Apr 15 21:05:06 2018
From: richardkimber at btinternet.com (Richard Kimber)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 20:05:06 +0100
Subject: [Users] Small question
In-Reply-To: <20180415115712.05fad7fb@frogguski.911networks.com>
References: <20180415115712.05fad7fb@frogguski.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20180415200506.7cf015cb@infinity>

On Sun, 15 Apr 2018 11:57:12 -0700
sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:

> CM 3.16.0 on Manjaro
> 
> Here's a screen capture:
> 
> https://i.imgur.com/Fv9DZVf.png
> 
> What's the up caret at the bottom right the CM screen? When I click
> on it it does nothing.
> 

It looks as though your already at the top so you can't go further up.
Maybe it should be greyed out in that situation.

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From littlergirl at gmail.com  Sun Apr 15 21:20:34 2018
From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 15:20:34 -0400
Subject: [Users] Advance to next message when Trash is clicked
In-Reply-To: <20180415104143.000033e8@secarica.ro>
References: <5ad1ddf2.4128c80a.2693b.cf4e@mx.google.com>
 <20180414184801.00005687@secarica.ro>
 <5ad22f93.0247c80a.ebbea.d0f6@mx.google.com>
 <20180414202204.00000377@secarica.ro>
 <5ad23acb.c706c80a.f5fce.37b2@mx.google.com>
 <20180414205139.00006960@secarica.ro>
 <5ad24805.4572c80a.bf7bc.d39b@mx.google.com>
 <20180415104143.000033e8@secarica.ro>
Message-ID: <5ad3a612.e426ed0a.c17c2.c952@mx.google.com>

Hey there,

Cristian Secară wrote:

>In preferences I have these:
>http://www.secarica.ro/misc/claws_mail_preferences_toolbar.png

Ah, thank you. I see it in mine, now, too. I don't use that, though.
I just leave the folder and it reminds me to follow up on the marked
messages. That could be useful in the future, though, if this
advancing to the next message gets permanently removed for any
reason. Thanks for your help.

-- 
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There is no spoon.


From rezso at rezso.net  Sun Apr 15 21:41:23 2018
From: rezso at rezso.net (=?UTF-8?B?UMOhZGVyIFJlenPFkQ==?=)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 21:41:23 +0200
Subject: [Users] Small question
In-Reply-To: <20180415115712.05fad7fb@frogguski.911networks.com>
References: <20180415115712.05fad7fb@frogguski.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20180415214123.1628ba81@rezso>


>What's the up caret at the bottom right the CM screen? When I click
>on it it does nothing.

With those arrows you can scroll the message parts, if the message
contains many parts (for example the message contains more attachments).
You have two parts in this email, so scrolling not needed.

-- 
R.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Apr 16 12:09:39 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:09:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4011] New: Add a CLI option to start Claws Mail
 minimized to tray
Message-ID: <bug-4011-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4011

            Bug ID: 4011
           Summary: Add a CLI option to start Claws Mail minimized to tray
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: other
          Hardware: PC
                OS: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: den_ml at posteo.de

That would be useful for loading Claws Mail on system start. At the same time,
launching Claws Mail without options would open its window as usual.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Apr 16 12:19:31 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:19:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4011] Add a CLI option to start Claws Mail minimized
	to tray
In-Reply-To: <bug-4011-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4011-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4011-595-vZ4XBxsfKw@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4011

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
          Component|Other                       |Plugins/Notification

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Apr 16 12:21:23 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:21:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4011] Add a CLI option to start Claws Mail minimized
	to tray
In-Reply-To: <bug-4011-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4011-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4011-595-QeqVPsGvOJ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4011

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Are you aware that the Notification plugin's SystrayIcon module already has an
option to 'Hide at start-up'?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Apr 16 12:32:12 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:32:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4011] Add a CLI option to start Claws Mail minimized
	to tray
In-Reply-To: <bug-4011-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4011-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4011-595-JrlKQcou1z@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4011

--- Comment #2 from Denis <den_ml at posteo.de> ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> Are you aware that the Notification plugin's SystrayIcon module already has
> an option to 'Hide at start-up'?

I'm away from my home machine right now, but am I right that this option makes
Claws Mail always start minimized to tray? As far as I remember, it is so. But
if I start Claws Mail manually, I want to get to its window immediately.
Starting it minimized to tray for me only makes sense on the system start-up.

And why would I want to start it manually if it is already launched on system
start-up? Because you may want to exit the program for different reasons.

It may not be an issue for a lot of users, but if it's not too much trouble
implementing it as a CLI key, I would be glad to see it.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Apr 16 12:47:02 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:47:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4011] Add a CLI option to start Claws Mail minimized
	to tray
In-Reply-To: <bug-4011-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4011-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4011-595-EDuNrzsIfx@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4011

--- Comment #3 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Another question is, why do you want it to be started in a minimised state if
it is started at on system start?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Apr 16 13:02:11 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 11:02:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4011] Add a CLI option to start Claws Mail minimized
	to tray
In-Reply-To: <bug-4011-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4011-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4011-595-lpP5vQOsY5@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4011

--- Comment #4 from Denis <den_ml at posteo.de> ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> Another question is, why do you want it to be started in a minimised state
> if it is started at on system start?

I may have other things to do. An analogy: if you have auto mounting enabled
(so that inserted flash drive is mounted on system start-up), does it mean that
you want this flash drive opened in your file manager when the system is
loaded? I do not, I just want it mounted.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Apr 16 14:28:49 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 12:28:49 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4012] New: External domain highlighting feature
Message-ID: <bug-4012-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4012

            Bug ID: 4012
           Summary: External domain highlighting feature
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: other
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: ddiss at samba.org

A number of other mail clients (AFAICT Thunderbird[1] and iOS) offer support
for highlighting of addresses that fall outside the sender's domain. I'd very
much appreciate a similar feature in Claws, via plugin or otherwise.

1. Thunderbird external domain highlighter
  
https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/addon/highlight-external-addresses/
2. iOS mail "Mark Addresses" feature
   http://osxdaily.com/2017/05/08/mark-addresses-domains-mail-ios/

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From usenet at karmasailing.uk  Mon Apr 16 14:50:08 2018
From: usenet at karmasailing.uk (Bob Williams)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:50:08 +0100
Subject: [Users] Problem with processing rule
Message-ID: <20180416135008.30b5bdd3@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>

The account is a gmail account. I am trying to move some messages which are filtered into a folder named "crew" to another folder. My processing rule for folder "crew" contains the following condition:

body_part matchcase "has completed a provisional membership form"

but none of the qualifying messages move to the new folder on entering "crew"

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.

Bob
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From subscript at free.fr  Mon Apr 16 15:05:49 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:05:49 +0200
Subject: [Users] Problem with processing rule
In-Reply-To: <20180416135008.30b5bdd3@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
References: <20180416135008.30b5bdd3@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
Message-ID: <20180416150549.5a416d20@ladybug>

Hello Bob,


On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:50:08 +0100 Bob Williams <usenet at karmasailing.uk> wrote:

> The account is a gmail account. I am trying to move some messages which are filtered into a folder named "crew" to another folder. My processing rule for folder "crew" contains the following condition:
> 
> body_part matchcase "has completed a provisional membership form"
> 
> but none of the qualifying messages move to the new folder on entering "crew"
> 
> I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.

Maybe because the body text is encoded? What's the body format of those
emails?


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From usenet at karmasailing.uk  Mon Apr 16 15:38:33 2018
From: usenet at karmasailing.uk (Bob Williams)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:38:33 +0100
Subject: [Users] Problem with processing rule
In-Reply-To: <20180416150549.5a416d20@ladybug>
References: <20180416135008.30b5bdd3@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
 <20180416150549.5a416d20@ladybug>
Message-ID: <20180416143833.5fe60178@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:05:49 +0200
wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:

> Hello Bob,
> 
> 
> On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:50:08 +0100 Bob Williams
> <usenet at karmasailing.uk> wrote:
> 
> > The account is a gmail account. I am trying to move some messages
> > which are filtered into a folder named "crew" to another folder. My
> > processing rule for folder "crew" contains the following condition:
> > 
> > body_part matchcase "has completed a provisional membership form"
> > 
> > but none of the qualifying messages move to the new folder on
> > entering "crew"
> > 
> > I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.  
> 
> Maybe because the body text is encoded? What's the body format of
> those emails?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 

From the message headers, I see

Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Is that what you mean? In Claws I have View > Character Encoding set to Automatic.

Bob

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From subscript at free.fr  Mon Apr 16 17:42:14 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:42:14 +0200
Subject: [Users] Problem with processing rule
In-Reply-To: <20180416143833.5fe60178@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
References: <20180416135008.30b5bdd3@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
 <20180416150549.5a416d20@ladybug>
 <20180416143833.5fe60178@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
Message-ID: <20180416173931.5a317274@ladybug>

Hello Bob,


On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:38:33 +0100 Bob Williams <usenet at karmasailing.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:05:49 +0200
> wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:
> 
> > Hello Bob,
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:50:08 +0100 Bob Williams
> > <usenet at karmasailing.uk> wrote:
> >   
> > > The account is a gmail account. I am trying to move some messages
> > > which are filtered into a folder named "crew" to another folder. My
> > > processing rule for folder "crew" contains the following condition:
> > > 
> > > body_part matchcase "has completed a provisional membership form"
> > > 
> > > but none of the qualifying messages move to the new folder on
> > > entering "crew"
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.    
> > 
> > Maybe because the body text is encoded? What's the body format of
> > those emails?
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> >   
> 
> From the message headers, I see
> 
> Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> 
> Is that what you mean? In Claws I have View > Character Encoding set to Automatic.

Unless I'm missing something, filtering those messages' body part seems
OK to me. Unless it's IMAP and the body is not yet retrieved?

Or unless your filtering rules include other conditions that are not
matching. Did you try debugging the filtering (Tools/Filtering log, you
need to turn on filtering debugging in Preferences/Other/Logging.


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From usenet at karmasailing.uk  Mon Apr 16 20:04:41 2018
From: usenet at karmasailing.uk (Bob Williams)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 19:04:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] Problem with processing rule
In-Reply-To: <20180416173931.5a317274@ladybug>
References: <20180416135008.30b5bdd3@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
 <20180416150549.5a416d20@ladybug>
 <20180416143833.5fe60178@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
 <20180416173931.5a317274@ladybug>
Message-ID: <20180416190441.57a1c01d@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:42:14 +0200
wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:

> Hello Bob,
> 
> 
> On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:38:33 +0100 Bob Williams
> <usenet at karmasailing.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:05:49 +0200
> > wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:
> >   
> > > Hello Bob,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:50:08 +0100 Bob Williams
> > > <usenet at karmasailing.uk> wrote:
> > >     
> > > > The account is a gmail account. I am trying to move some
> > > > messages which are filtered into a folder named "crew" to
> > > > another folder. My processing rule for folder "crew" contains
> > > > the following condition:
> > > > 
> > > > body_part matchcase "has completed a provisional membership
> > > > form"
> > > > 
> > > > but none of the qualifying messages move to the new folder on
> > > > entering "crew"
> > > > 
> > > > I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.      
> > > 
> > > Maybe because the body text is encoded? What's the body format of
> > > those emails?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > >     
> > 
> > From the message headers, I see
> > 
> > Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> > 
> > Is that what you mean? In Claws I have View > Character Encoding
> > set to Automatic.  
> 
> Unless I'm missing something, filtering those messages' body part
> seems OK to me. Unless it's IMAP and the body is not yet retrieved?
> 
> Or unless your filtering rules include other conditions that are not
> matching. Did you try debugging the filtering (Tools/Filtering log,
> you need to turn on filtering debugging in Preferences/Other/Logging.
> 
It's IMAP, but the body is readable.
No other filtering rules applied.

Logging gives:

[18:58:27] filtering message (folder processing: Crew)
            message file: /home/bob/.claws-mail/imapcache/imap.gmail.com/bob.williams at brightonbelle.org/Crew/848
            Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:48:57 +0100
            From: Timothy Test <info at brightonbelle.org>
            To: crew at brightonbelle.org
            Subject: 04-07-2019 Timothy Test Brighton
[18:58:27] processing rule 'Provisional' [ body_part matchcase "has completed a provisional membership form" move "#imap/Brighton Belle/Provisional Members" ]
[18:58:27] checking if message matches [ body_part matchcase "has completed a provisional membership form" ]
> message does not match

The relevant paragraph in the message that I am searching on reads:

Timothy Test has completed a provisional membership form for the event on 04-07-2019 and has selected xxx.xxx at brightonbelle.org as skipper. Please check the form and reply to them confirming a place is available and letting them know how they should pay their contribution. 

Bob

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From subscript at free.fr  Mon Apr 16 20:15:33 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 20:15:33 +0200
Subject: [Users] Problem with processing rule
In-Reply-To: <20180416190441.57a1c01d@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
References: <20180416135008.30b5bdd3@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
 <20180416150549.5a416d20@ladybug>
 <20180416143833.5fe60178@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
 <20180416173931.5a317274@ladybug>
 <20180416190441.57a1c01d@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
Message-ID: <20180416201533.683f49fa@ladybug>

Hello Bob,


On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 19:04:41 +0100 Bob Williams <usenet at karmasailing.uk> wrote:
[snip]
> It's IMAP, but the body is readable.
> No other filtering rules applied.
> 
> Logging gives:
> 
> [18:58:27] filtering message (folder processing: Crew)
>             message file: /home/bob/.claws-mail/imapcache/imap.gmail.com/bob.williams at brightonbelle.org/Crew/848
>             Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:48:57 +0100
>             From: Timothy Test <info at brightonbelle.org>
>             To: crew at brightonbelle.org
>             Subject: 04-07-2019 Timothy Test Brighton
> [18:58:27] processing rule 'Provisional' [ body_part matchcase "has completed a provisional membership form" move "#imap/Brighton Belle/Provisional Members" ]
> [18:58:27] checking if message matches [ body_part matchcase "has completed a provisional membership form" ]
> > message does not match  
> 
> The relevant paragraph in the message that I am searching on reads:
> 
> Timothy Test has completed a provisional membership form for the event on 04-07-2019 and has selected xxx.xxx at brightonbelle.org as skipper. Please check the form and reply to them confirming a place is available and letting them know how they should pay their contribution. 

OK. Would you mind sending me such email (anonymize it if you want),
privately, so that I can test here?


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From subscript at free.fr  Mon Apr 16 20:34:09 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 20:34:09 +0200
Subject: [Users] Problem with processing rule
In-Reply-To: <20180416190441.57a1c01d@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
References: <20180416135008.30b5bdd3@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
 <20180416150549.5a416d20@ladybug>
 <20180416143833.5fe60178@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
 <20180416173931.5a317274@ladybug>
 <20180416190441.57a1c01d@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
Message-ID: <20180416203409.73e79323@ladybug>

Hello Bob,


On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 19:04:41 +0100 Bob Williams <usenet at karmasailing.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:42:14 +0200
> wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:
> 
> > Hello Bob,
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:38:33 +0100 Bob Williams
> > <usenet at karmasailing.uk> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:05:49 +0200
> > > wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:
> > >     
> > > > Hello Bob,
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:50:08 +0100 Bob Williams
> > > > <usenet at karmasailing.uk> wrote:
> > > >       
> > > > > The account is a gmail account. I am trying to move some
> > > > > messages which are filtered into a folder named "crew" to
> > > > > another folder. My processing rule for folder "crew" contains
> > > > > the following condition:
> > > > > 
> > > > > body_part matchcase "has completed a provisional membership
> > > > > form"
> > > > > 
> > > > > but none of the qualifying messages move to the new folder on
> > > > > entering "crew"
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.        
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe because the body text is encoded? What's the body format of
> > > > those emails?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > >       
> > > 
> > > From the message headers, I see
> > > 
> > > Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
> > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> > > 
> > > Is that what you mean? In Claws I have View > Character Encoding
> > > set to Automatic.    
> > 
> > Unless I'm missing something, filtering those messages' body part
> > seems OK to me. Unless it's IMAP and the body is not yet retrieved?
> > 
> > Or unless your filtering rules include other conditions that are not
> > matching. Did you try debugging the filtering (Tools/Filtering log,
> > you need to turn on filtering debugging in Preferences/Other/Logging.
> >   
> It's IMAP, but the body is readable.
> No other filtering rules applied.
> 
> Logging gives:
> 
> [18:58:27] filtering message (folder processing: Crew)
>             message file: /home/bob/.claws-mail/imapcache/imap.gmail.com/bob.williams at brightonbelle.org/Crew/848
>             Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:48:57 +0100
>             From: Timothy Test <info at brightonbelle.org>
>             To: crew at brightonbelle.org
>             Subject: 04-07-2019 Timothy Test Brighton
> [18:58:27] processing rule 'Provisional' [ body_part matchcase "has completed a provisional membership form" move "#imap/Brighton Belle/Provisional Members" ]
> [18:58:27] checking if message matches [ body_part matchcase "has completed a provisional membership form" ]
> > message does not match  
> 
> The relevant paragraph in the message that I am searching on reads:
> 
> Timothy Test has completed a provisional membership form for the event on 04-07-2019 and has selected xxx.xxx at brightonbelle.org as skipper. Please check the form and reply to them confirming a place is available and letting them know how they should pay their contribution. 

OK I got it. It's because there's a 0x0A (linefeed) char between 'a' and
'provisional' (at least here) in the body. So you think it's a space,
but it's a just non-printable that prints as ' '.

Such line-break can occur anywhere in the text, you should take this
into account in your match rule, for instance using a regexp instead:

 "has.completed.a.provisional.membership.form"

(one could write a more realistic regexp with, but you'd loose in
readability, this one matches reasonably enough)


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From usenet at karmasailing.uk  Mon Apr 16 22:33:10 2018
From: usenet at karmasailing.uk (Bob Williams)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 21:33:10 +0100
Subject: [Users] Problem with processing rule [SOLVED]
In-Reply-To: <20180416203409.73e79323@ladybug>
References: <20180416135008.30b5bdd3@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
 <20180416150549.5a416d20@ladybug>
 <20180416143833.5fe60178@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
 <20180416173931.5a317274@ladybug>
 <20180416190441.57a1c01d@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>
 <20180416203409.73e79323@ladybug>
Message-ID: <20180416213310.72b54bd3@blackbox.karmasailing.uk>

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 20:34:09 +0200
wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:

> OK I got it. It's because there's a 0x0A (linefeed) char between 'a'
> and 'provisional' (at least here) in the body. So you think it's a
> space, but it's a just non-printable that prints as ' '.
> 
> Such line-break can occur anywhere in the text, you should take this
> into account in your match rule, for instance using a regexp instead:
> 
>  "has.completed.a.provisional.membership.form"
> 
> (one could write a more realistic regexp with, but you'd loose in
> readability, this one matches reasonably enough)

Brilliant. Works perfectly. Many thanks for your help.

Regards

Bob
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From jg.trosh at gmail.com  Tue Apr 17 16:03:45 2018
From: jg.trosh at gmail.com (John Gliksberg)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 16:03:45 +0200
Subject: [Users] [bug?] Possibly wrong behaviour of Return key
Message-ID: <CAOj6OXPe5-7-pHtB9_pt7HbEo5=h6a5w1xJwN-Lnx2P4ezM0vg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all, first time poster here.


I'm not sure of the correct way to report an issue, so here I am doing
my best.

In the message list view, when the message content view is deactivated
(View > Show or Hide > Message view = off, or with shortcut V), opening
a message with a double click opens it in a separate window. However,
pressing the Return key instead reactivates the message view. I suspect
that's not the intended behaviour, at least it's not what I expected.

I know I can force it to open in a new window with ^[N but it feels
like the generic "open" key (Return) should be context aware and open a
new window when message view has been deactivated.

I hope this is not already a known issue or a clear design choice.

Thanks for maintaining this great program,


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From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Tue Apr 17 17:50:13 2018
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 08:50:13 -0700
Subject: [Users] shortcut keys
Message-ID: <20180417085013.3dfdcf06@frogguski.911networks.com>

CM 3.16.0

How do I see all the current shortcut keys in CM?

Configuration | Preferences | Other |Miscellanous|Keyboard Shortcuts
only choose the defaults

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Apr 17 21:24:03 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 19:24:03 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3993] Claws Mail connects to IMAP server when it
	should not
In-Reply-To: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3993-595-w4ReTQnSBN@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3993

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
         Resolution|INVALID                     |FIXED

--- Comment #34 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2018-04-17 21:23:03.627927074 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=93f58c355b267a733a6756972925d904e5c3b166
Merge: 846f511 a29676e
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Tue Apr 17 21:23:02 2018 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=a29676ed69c4ff8566ae4eb8ca7e650e40cda22b
Author: Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Tue Apr 17 21:17:34 2018 +0200

    Fix unwanted IMAP connections on startup caused by processing rules.

    The culprit was a combination of folder_item_prefs_clear()
    setting item->enable_processing to TRUE even though default
    value should be FALSE, and initial_processing() not skipping
    over root folders, which do not have this variable later set
    to correct default value in xml_to_folder_item().

    Closes bug #3993: Claws Mail connects to IMAP server when it should not

--- Comment #35 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
*poof*, bug fixed.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Apr 17 23:04:06 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 21:04:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3993] Claws Mail connects to IMAP server when it
	should not
In-Reply-To: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3993-595-XTWfxWDO3j@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3993

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Great! Thanks.

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From codejodler at gmx.ch  Wed Apr 18 00:16:39 2018
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 00:16:39 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3993] Claws Mail connects to IMAP server when it
 should not
In-Reply-To: <bug-3993-595-w4ReTQnSBN@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3993-595-w4ReTQnSBN@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20180418001639.2902b675@gandalf.lan3>

I can't believe that this long discussion finally got a fix for real ... !

Good job & thank you, Andrej ! (+Colin?)


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Wed Apr 18 12:32:53 2018
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 11:32:53 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3993] Claws Mail connects to IMAP server when it
 should not
In-Reply-To: <20180418001639.2902b675@gandalf.lan3>
References: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3993-595-w4ReTQnSBN@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <20180418001639.2902b675@gandalf.lan3>
Message-ID: <20180418113253.00006943@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 00:16:39 +0200
Michael wrote:

> I can't believe that this long discussion finally got a fix for
> real ... !

Such problems are often corrected but may take time to investigate and
work out what needs fixing.

Patience is a virtue...

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Apr 18 12:43:04 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 11:43:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3993] Claws Mail connects to IMAP server when it
 should not
In-Reply-To: <20180418113253.00006943@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3993-595-w4ReTQnSBN@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <20180418001639.2902b675@gandalf.lan3>
 <20180418113253.00006943@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20180418114304.165ef714@kujata>

On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 11:32:53 +0100
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote: 

> Such problems are often corrected but may take time to investigate
> and work out what needs fixing.

And a certain level of compliance from the submitter reduces the
time needed, which was lacking here.

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Apr 20 12:52:17 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 10:52:17 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4013] New: "Menu path" font size in Hotkeys tab is too
	small
Message-ID: <bug-4013-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4013

            Bug ID: 4013
           Summary: "Menu path" font size in Hotkeys tab is too small
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: clawsker
           Version: 1.0.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com

Created attachment 1866
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1866&action=edit
screenshot

The font size of the contents of "Menu path" column in Hotkeys is too small.
The Hotkey column shows correct size (as per KDE's default font).

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Apr 20 13:48:22 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 11:48:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4013] "Menu path" font size in Hotkeys tab is too small
In-Reply-To: <bug-4013-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4013-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4013-595-Syc2pj8hM4@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4013

--- Comment #1 from Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> ---
What is your screenshot supposed to demonstrate?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Apr 20 13:57:09 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 11:57:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4013] "Menu path" font size in Hotkeys tab is too small
In-Reply-To: <bug-4013-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4013-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4013-595-afE3Q4ZxcD@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4013

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That the font size in the left column is smaller than everything else in the
UI.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Apr 20 14:05:11 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 12:05:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4013] "Menu path" font size in Hotkeys tab is too small
In-Reply-To: <bug-4013-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4013-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4013-595-LOWAJjwXa2@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4013

--- Comment #3 from Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> ---
Your ticket title claims it would be "too small". The screenshot doesn't
confirm that. That it is smaller is intentional. In your screenshot it is much
bigger than with default GNOME Shell, for example.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Apr 20 14:07:04 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 12:07:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4013] "Menu path" font size in Hotkeys tab is too small
In-Reply-To: <bug-4013-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4013-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4013-595-bm5YsBPV9w@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4013

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #4 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
It's intentional.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Apr 20 17:22:08 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 15:22:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4013] "Menu path" font size in Hotkeys tab is too small
In-Reply-To: <bug-4013-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4013-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4013-595-YqjPrAStc3@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4013

--- Comment #5 from Removed after GDPR request <removed-gdpr at example.com> ---
I understand this may be subjective but on a 108dpi screen it is too small. The
"normal" font is Noto Sans 10. I don't know why it is intentional but keeping
something deliberately hard to read is not good, especially considering the
available (now wasted) space on the right side.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Apr 20 18:10:18 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 16:10:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4013] "Menu path" font size in Hotkeys tab is too small
In-Reply-To: <bug-4013-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4013-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4013-595-iDcj1fpAZL@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4013

wwp <wwp at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|RESOLVED                    |REOPENED
         Resolution|INVALID                     |---
     Ever confirmed|0                           |1

--- Comment #6 from wwp <wwp at claws-mail.org> ---
It's maybe intentional, but it only shows lazy programming here. We should
either use the same size and allow resizing or column (or resize automatically
or use a scrollbar), or make the font size proportional to the DPI, instead of
hardcoding it. Here on a 1920x1080 screen 96DPI, the font size is OK but
because I'm an eagle-eye one, increase the DPI or use poorer eyes and it's not
OK at all. Or close as WONTFIX if you don't want to fix.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Apr 20 18:44:40 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 16:44:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4014] New: "Work offline" doesn't seem to affect RSS
 feed fetching
Message-ID: <bug-4014-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4014

            Bug ID: 4014
           Summary: "Work offline" doesn't seem to affect RSS feed
                    fetching
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.16.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/RSSyl
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com

STR:

1. Activate "Work offline"
2. Refresh RSS feeds

EXPECTED:
A message dialog should appear suggesting to go online or override for N
minutes.

ACTUAL:
Feeds are refreshed.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Apr 20 18:49:40 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 16:49:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4015] New: Overriding "work offline" still shows icon
 that connection is offline
Message-ID: <bug-4015-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4015

            Bug ID: 4015
           Summary: Overriding "work offline" still shows icon that
                    connection is offline
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.16.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com

STR:

1. Click on an IMAP folder while online
2. Activate "work offline"
3. Restart CM
4. When asked to override for 300 minutes click "Yes"

EXPECTED:
The "work offline" icon should show "Online" until the time (300 minutes)
expires. (ideally with a countdown timer)

ACTUAL:
The "work offline" icon still shows "offline" and I can actually work online.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Apr 20 18:58:21 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 16:58:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4014] "Work offline" doesn't seem to affect
In-Reply-To: <bug-4014-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4014-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4014-595-6DuFoS25w8@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4014

Removed after GDPR request <removed-gdpr at example.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
          Component|Plugins/RSSyl               |Other
            Summary|"Work offline" doesn't seem |"Work offline" doesn't seem
                   |to affect RSS feed fetching |to affect

--- Comment #1 from Removed after GDPR request <removed-gdpr at example.com> ---
Actually "Work offline" seems to have no effect on IMAP either. I can click
"Get Mail" successfully fetch mail even while "Work offline" is active.

The only thing which "Work offline" seems to do is to stop the automatic NOOP
and automatic periodic mail fetching.

Perhaps this (imo buggy) behavior could be considered as an unexpected
temporary "solution" to bug#4008.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Apr 20 19:01:05 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 17:01:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4014] "Work offline" doesn't seem to affect RSS
In-Reply-To: <bug-4014-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4014-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4014-595-bDqh9zP5De@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4014

Removed after GDPR request <removed-gdpr at example.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
          Component|Other                       |Plugins/RSSyl
            Summary|"Work offline" doesn't seem |"Work offline" doesn't seem
                   |to affect                   |to affect RSS

--- Comment #2 from Removed after GDPR request <removed-gdpr at example.com> ---
Correction: I am sorry, please ignore previous comment as it seems to be valid
only in "override" mode.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Apr 21 11:55:14 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2018 09:55:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3993] Claws Mail connects to IMAP server when it
	should not
In-Reply-To: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3993-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3993-595-asyOvwWhee@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3993

--- Comment #37 from Ronald Smith <ronaldsmith200 at gmail.com> ---
Thank you.

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From kae at midnighthax.com  Thu Apr 19 23:27:28 2018
From: kae at midnighthax.com (Keith Edmunds)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 22:27:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] Per-folder signatures?
Message-ID: <20180419222728.1feda706@ws.midnighthax.com>

Is it possible to override the account signature on a per-folder basis?

Thanks
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From subscript at free.fr  Sun Apr 22 13:55:25 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 13:55:25 +0200
Subject: [Users] Per-folder signatures?
In-Reply-To: <20180419222728.1feda706@ws.midnighthax.com>
References: <20180419222728.1feda706@ws.midnighthax.com>
Message-ID: <20180422135525.60d5ec8f@ladybug>

Hello Keith,


On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 22:27:28 +0100 Keith Edmunds <kae at midnighthax.com> wrote:

> Is it possible to override the account signature on a per-folder basis?

Yes, at least by using folder properties' templates. You'd have disable
the signature in your account prefs, set the default signature in the
compose/reply/forward templates of the root folder and apply
recursively, then set a different signature in the
compose/reply/forward templates of the folders where you want a
different signature.

A true per-folder signature would be a RFE, I'm afraid.


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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sun Apr 22 12:48:05 2018
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 11:48:05 +0100
Subject: [Users] Per-folder signatures?
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Message-ID: <20180422114805.54caf7e6@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 22:27:28 +0100
Keith Edmunds <kae at midnighthax.com> wrote:

Hello Keith,

>Is it possible to override the account signature on a per-folder basis?

Use the templates feature of each folder's Properties from folder
context menu.

However, if you wish to use the same signature for multiple folders, I
suggest creating an SMTP only account(adding the signature to its
properties) and using that for default compose/reply etc.

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From kae at midnighthax.com  Sun Apr 22 14:43:14 2018
From: kae at midnighthax.com (Keith Edmunds)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 13:43:14 +0100
Subject: [Users] Per-folder signatures?
In-Reply-To: <20180422114805.54caf7e6@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20180419222728.1feda706@ws.midnighthax.com>
 <20180422114805.54caf7e6@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20180422134314.6b1717e3@ws.midnighthax.com>

> However, if you wish to use the same signature for multiple folders, I
> suggest creating an SMTP only account(adding the signature to its
> properties) and using that for default compose/reply etc.

Oh that's a smart idea. Thanks, Brad.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Apr 23 11:31:18 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 09:31:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4013] "Menu path" font size in Hotkeys tab is too small
In-Reply-To: <bug-4013-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4013-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4013-595-pIzgQKqeA4@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4013

--- Comment #7 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #6)
> It's maybe intentional, but it only shows lazy programming here.

Won't say the opposite... :-)

> We should either use the same size and allow resizing or column (or resize
> automatically or use a scrollbar)

It already resizes automatically. The intention was to distinguish somehow
labels from hotkeys, which can't be done using same size (and bold and italic
did't look very well to my eyes).

>, or make the font size proportional to the DPI, instead of hardcoding it.

That can be done using Pango markup, which is my preferred option so far,
though still have to test it on a high-DPI display.

> Here on a 1920x1080 screen 96DPI, the font size is OK but because I'm an
> eagle-eye one, increase the DPI or use poorer eyes and it's not OK at all.

Crazy-horse agrees with Eagle-eye: fixed size not OK for white man :-)

> Or close as WONTFIX if you don't want to fix.

I'd keep that card for future fixes harder than this one ;-)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Apr 23 12:09:54 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 10:09:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4013] "Menu path" font size in Hotkeys tab is too small
In-Reply-To: <bug-4013-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4013-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4013-595-hxYPCvbLRA@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4013

--- Comment #8 from Removed after GDPR request <removed-gdpr at example.com> ---
> The intention was to distinguish somehow labels from hotkeys

They are already distinguished by the left alignment of both columns.

If I may suggest:

- Make the font the same size
- Bold the lines with assigned hotkey
- Replace "Disabled" with empty to make it easier for the eye to see the actual
shortcuts
- Make columns sortable, e.g. clicking on "Hotkey" to sort the hotkeys
- Currently it is possible to assign the same hotkey to different actions.
Create a warning when duplicate hotkeys are assigned suggesting to either swap
the assignment or cancel it.

Do any of these need a separate bug/enhancement report?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Apr 23 22:36:00 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 20:36:00 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4016] New: Claws-mail segfault
Message-ID: <bug-4016-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4016

            Bug ID: 4016
           Summary: Claws-mail segfault
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.16.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: major
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders/IMAP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: rce-dev at protonmail.com

Claws-mail segfaults under two conditions as described below:
1: claws-mail segfaults while executing or closing "Checkfor new folders"
2: claws-mail segfaults while exiting claws-mail:


claws-mail configuration:

imap localhost:1143 STARTLS (ProtonMail Bridge)
smtp localhost:1025 STARTLS
use non-blocking SSL/TLS

Fedora fc27
lxde-common-0.99.2-3.fc27.noarch
claws-mail version 3.16.0
libetpan   version 1.8

PC: ThinkPad T540p

------
GDB Backtrace when claws-mail segfaults while executing or closing
"Check for new folders"

claws-mail[10696]: segfault at 0 ip 00007fb4cd366814 sp \
00007fb4c0dfba70 error 4 in libetpan.so[7fb4cd333000+c2000]

gdb backtrace:
#0  0x00007fb4cd366814 in clist_foreach (lst=0x0,
func=func at entry=0x7fb4cd380a20 <mailimap_flag_free>, data=data at entry=0x0) at
clist.c:220
#1  0x00007fb4cd380ad5 in mailimap_flag_list_free (flag_list=0x7fb4b8031c90) at
mailimap_types.c:1204
#2  0x00007fb4cd382800 in mailimap_selection_info_free
(sel_info=0x7fb4b8032140) at mailimap_types.c:3109
#3  0x00007fb4cd36b588 in mailimap_select_condstore_optional
(session=0x2814250, mb=0x7fb4b802a810 "Sent", condstore=condstore at entry=0,
p_mod_sequence_value=p_mod_sequence_value at entry=0x7fb4c0dfbb08) at
condstore.c:497
#4  0x00007fb4cd36c310 in mailimap_select (session=<optimized out>,
mb=<optimized out>) at mailimap.c:2094
#5  0x00000000005acbbf in select_run (op=<optimized out>) at imap-thread.c:1341
#6  0x00000000005cf546 in thread_run (data=0x2708fe0) at
etpan-thread-manager.c:340
#7  0x00007fb4ce75b50b in start_thread () at /usr/lib64/libpthread.so.0
#8  0x00007fb4cd07216f in clone () at /usr/lib64/libc.so.6

------
GDB Backtrace when claws-mail segfaults while exiting claws-mail:

claws-mail[23534]: segfault at 0 ip 00007f8b0898d814 sp 00007f8af7ffeaf0 error
4 in libetpan.so.20.1.0[7f8b0895a000+c2000]

bt
#0  0x00007f8b0898d814 in clist_foreach (lst=0x0,
func=func at entry=0x7f8b089a7a20 <mailimap_flag_free>, data=data at entry=0x0) at
clist.c:220
#1  0x00007f8b089a7ad5 in mailimap_flag_list_free (flag_list=0x7f8aec03f530) at
mailimap_types.c:1204
#2  0x00007f8b089a9800 in mailimap_selection_info_free
(sel_info=0x7f8aec03d530) at mailimap_types.c:3109
#3  0x00007f8b0899406e in mailimap_free (session=0x25e4000) at mailimap.c:2694
#4  0x00000000005cf546 in thread_run (data=0x27e1f70) at
etpan-thread-manager.c:340
#5  0x00007f8b09d8250b in start_thread () at /usr/lib64/libpthread.so.0
#6  0x00007f8b0869916f in clone () at /usr/lib64/libc.so.6

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Apr 24 08:47:31 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 06:47:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4016] Claws-mail segfault
In-Reply-To: <bug-4016-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4016-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4016-595-lJaVd1unnJ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4016

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
On a quick glance, it seems to me that the crash is inside libetpan, due to a
missing NULL check on the sel_flags member of struct mailimap_selection_info.
It is initialized to NULL when the struct is allocated earlier, but perhaps due
to the IMAP server's lack of support for flags, it is never used, and
mailimap_selection_info_free() (and subsequently clist_free()) does not expect
it.

Can you please post contents of ~/.claws-mail/claws.log (with folder names etc.
sufficiently sanitized, if you feel like it) from the crashing run? I'd like to
see the network traffic between Claws Mail and the server.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Apr 24 10:54:20 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 08:54:20 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4016] Claws-mail segfault
In-Reply-To: <bug-4016-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4016-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4016-595-qp1NzY4KKO@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4016

--- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
If you are in a position to recompile libetpan yourself, can you please try it
with this change applied? It should fix the crash.

https://github.com/ticho/libetpan/commit/aeab7755a44e8b22d373e94ab043e7d0c8fb016c

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From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Tue Apr 24 11:31:21 2018
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:31:21 +0200
Subject: [Users] Reload loses locks?
In-Reply-To: <bug-4016-595-qp1NzY4KKO@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4016-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-4016-595-qp1NzY4KKO@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20180424113121.264f256d@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

Claws 3.16.0 on Fedora 27.

Yesterday when I started claws-mail, and for some reason it reloaded all
mail folders (a complete IMAP fetch instead of an update fetch). 

This morning I found out that I had lost the messages that I had marked
locked.

I lock messages in a mailbox that are of special interest, so I can easily
"select all" - "delete" to clean out the mail folder while keeping the
interesting messages.

Questions: Why the reload? The log file shows nothing, it just starts with a
huge series of IMAP fetches.
Is it intended behaviour to lose the lock status of the messages?


From ticho at claws-mail.org  Tue Apr 24 12:14:32 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 12:14:32 +0200
Subject: [Users] Reload loses locks?
In-Reply-To: <20180424113121.264f256d@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
References: <bug-4016-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-4016-595-qp1NzY4KKO@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <20180424113121.264f256d@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <20180424121224.5f2ebacd.andrej@kacian.sk>

On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:31:21 +0200
Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl> wrote:

> Claws 3.16.0 on Fedora 27.
> 
> Yesterday when I started claws-mail, and for some reason it reloaded
> all mail folders (a complete IMAP fetch instead of an update fetch). 
> 
> This morning I found out that I had lost the messages that I had
> marked locked.
> 
> I lock messages in a mailbox that are of special interest, so I can
> easily "select all" - "delete" to clean out the mail folder while
> keeping the interesting messages.
> 
> Questions: Why the reload? The log file shows nothing, it just starts
> with a huge series of IMAP fetches.
> Is it intended behaviour to lose the lock status of the messages?

Did you delete ~/.claws-mail/imapcache, or some subfolder within? That
is where local message flags are kept, in particular
folders' .claws_cache and .claws_mark files. Their absence would
explain your described behavior.

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From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Tue Apr 24 13:00:54 2018
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 13:00:54 +0200
Subject: [Users] Reload loses locks?
In-Reply-To: <20180424121224.5f2ebacd.andrej@kacian.sk>
References: <bug-4016-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-4016-595-qp1NzY4KKO@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <20180424113121.264f256d@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20180424121224.5f2ebacd.andrej@kacian.sk>
Message-ID: <20180424130036.7efe8894@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 12:14:32 +0200, Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org>
wrote:

> Did you delete ~/.claws-mail/imapcache, or some subfolder within? That
> is where local message flags are kept, in particular
> folders' .claws_cache and .claws_mark files. Their absence would
> explain your described behavior.

I'm pretty sure I didn't, but one can never be sure,

I'll take my losses for now...


From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Tue Apr 24 13:49:01 2018
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 13:49:01 +0200
Subject: [Users] Using templates
Message-ID: <20180424134901.6a70494b@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

Claws Mail 3.16.0 on Fedora 27.

I want to send out a couple of near-identical mail messages consisting of a
(personalized) introduction and an attachment. A good occasion to
play a bit with claws' templates.

I defined a template MyTemplate and started using it.

The first thing that I noticed is that using a template requires far too
much user action. 

 - Compose email message
 - Tools > Template > MyTemplate
 - Replace or insert (WHY?? The message is empty)

I looked for a "Compose mail from template" function but could not find
anything suitable.

Then I noticed that the attachment doesn't show. In the template I have

    |attach{/home/me/Documents/Invitation.pdf}

(which does exist and is readable) but the document is not attached. No
messages on the console or in the logs.
Using "file" instead of "attach" inserts the PDF into the mail message,
which is, of course, not appropriate.

It makes me feel I'm doing something wrong... But what?


From subscript at free.fr  Tue Apr 24 14:18:42 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 14:18:42 +0200
Subject: [Users] Using templates
In-Reply-To: <20180424134901.6a70494b@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
References: <20180424134901.6a70494b@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <20180424141842.3e5bbb22@ladybug>

Hello Johan,


On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 13:49:01 +0200 Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl> wrote:

> Claws Mail 3.16.0 on Fedora 27.
> 
> I want to send out a couple of near-identical mail messages consisting of a
> (personalized) introduction and an attachment. A good occasion to
> play a bit with claws' templates.
> 
> I defined a template MyTemplate and started using it.
> 
> The first thing that I noticed is that using a template requires far too
> much user action. 
> 
>  - Compose email message
>  - Tools > Template > MyTemplate
>  - Replace or insert (WHY?? The message is empty)
> I looked for a "Compose mail from template" function but could not find
> anything suitable.

You probably don't see why inserting or replacing can be useful or
don't need the distinction; in your case, use replace, as inserting
depends where the cursor is.

Templates can be applied automatically to the whole new composition or
reply, when set in folders' properties or account prefs. This is maybe
what you should prefer?


> Then I noticed that the attachment doesn't show. In the template I have
> 
>     |attach{/home/me/Documents/Invitation.pdf}
> 
> (which does exist and is readable) but the document is not attached. No
> messages on the console or in the logs.
> Using "file" instead of "attach" inserts the PDF into the mail message,
> which is, of course, not appropriate.
> 
> It makes me feel I'm doing something wrong... But what?

Attachments were broken in 3.16.0 (and maybe before), this is already
fixed in repository, you'll have to wait for next version or compile
from the sources.


Regards,

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From johngeoffreywalker at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Apr 24 16:13:18 2018
From: johngeoffreywalker at yahoo.co.uk (John G Walker)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:13:18 +0100
Subject: [Users] Notification icon missing
In-Reply-To: <20180405172857.4817ea51@ladybug>
References: <20180405125836.3d7ab651@Adele> <20180405142100.09136c13@ladybug>
 <20180405160832.76936af4@Adele> <20180405172857.4817ea51@ladybug>
Message-ID: <20180424151318.385f5180@Adele>



On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 17:28:57 +0200 wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:

> Hello John,
> 
> 
> On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 16:08:32 +0100 John G Walker
> <johngeoffreywalker at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 14:21:00 +0200 wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:
> > 
> [snip]
> > I ran this from a terminal, unloaded the plugin then got this when I
> > loaded it again:
> > 
> > notification_core.c:332:Notification Plugin: Hash table created
> > notification_hotkeys.c:105:Notification plugin: Updating
> > keybindings.. notification_hotkeys.c:115:Notification plugin:
> > Unbinding all keybindings.. notification_hotkeys.c:105:Notification
> > plugin: Updating keybindings..
> > notification_hotkeys.c:115:Notification plugin: Unbinding all
> > keybindings.. notification_plugin.c:357:Notification plugin loaded
> > plugin.c:525:Plugin Notification (from
> > file /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/notification.so) loaded
> > plugin.c:526:TIMING
> > plugin_load /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/notification.so: 0s044ms
> > 
> > This seems to have worked. Given that the notification icon was
> > appearing until it didn't I doubt that it's an installation issue.
> 
> The question is, how can it "disappear"? That might be a defect in the
> plug-in code, but we'll need more information to understand
> when/why/how it ceases functioning.
> Could you tell us what notification features are enabled (preferences
> > plugins > notification)? Would be nice to identify the context when
> > it
> stops, too. Last resort if we can't reproduce will be to run
> claws-mail from gdb or valgrind.
> 
> 
> [snip]
> > > `ldd $PREFIX/lib/claws-mail/plugins/notification.so` could also
> > > tell us if a binary dependency is not satisfied anymore. $PREFIX
> > > depends on how you install Claws Mail.  
> > 
> > How do I find where Yast has installed Claws-Mail? I used to know
> > how to do this sort of thing, but these days I just run things and
> > get on with my life. I use Linux so that I can look under the hood
> > if things go wrong, but nowadays they so seldom do,
> 
> It's /usr, the log excerpts you included in your previous email talks
> about /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/notification.so.
> But IMO we don't care about `ldd` anymore now that we know that the
> plug-in loads w/o error.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 

Many apologies for not replying to this promptly. It's a bit rude after
I had a prompt reply to my original email. But I had to go away just
after receiving it and have not really had time to get around to
looking at the problem since I got back.

In the meantime, I have at least been limping along.

However, I had to reboot, from a full shutdown, and this has solved the
problem. So thanks for the reply.

Though I'm really puzzled, since this implies that the problem was an
OS corruption. But that should have shown up with the diagnostics that
you had me previously run. I think we'll have to write this up as
"mysterious".

But belated thanks for responding,


-- 
 All the best,
 John


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Apr 24 16:27:00 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:27:00 +0100
Subject: [Users] Notification icon missing
In-Reply-To: <20180424151318.385f5180@Adele>
References: <20180405125836.3d7ab651@Adele> <20180405142100.09136c13@ladybug>
 <20180405160832.76936af4@Adele> <20180405172857.4817ea51@ladybug>
 <20180424151318.385f5180@Adele>
Message-ID: <20180424152700.4d14d37c@kujata>

On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:13:18 +0100
John G Walker <johngeoffreywalker at yahoo.co.uk> wrote: 

> Though I'm really puzzled, since this implies that the problem was
> an OS corruption. But that should have shown up with the
> diagnostics that you had me previously run. I think we'll have to
> write this up as "mysterious".

It's probably a problem with your desktop environment, which controls
the notification area, and not a problem with the plugin.

with regards

Paul


From johngeoffreywalker at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Apr 24 17:37:58 2018
From: johngeoffreywalker at yahoo.co.uk (John G Walker)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 16:37:58 +0100
Subject: [Users] Notification icon missing
In-Reply-To: <20180424152700.4d14d37c@kujata>
References: <20180405125836.3d7ab651@Adele> <20180405142100.09136c13@ladybug>
 <20180405160832.76936af4@Adele> <20180405172857.4817ea51@ladybug>
 <20180424151318.385f5180@Adele> <20180424152700.4d14d37c@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180424163758.45a6266c@Adele>



On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:27:00 +0100 Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>
wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:13:18 +0100
> John G Walker <johngeoffreywalker at yahoo.co.uk> wrote: 
> 
> > Though I'm really puzzled, since this implies that the problem was
> > an OS corruption. But that should have shown up with the
> > diagnostics that you had me previously run. I think we'll have to
> > write this up as "mysterious".
> 
> It's probably a problem with your desktop environment, which controls
> the notification area, and not a problem with the plugin.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

I think that must be the case. Except that it didn't appear to affect
any other icon. But, since it's gone away now, we'll never know.


It's the first time this has happened in a decade or so of using
Claws-Mail,

-- 
 All the best,
 John


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Apr 24 18:14:47 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 16:14:47 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4016] Claws-mail segfault
In-Reply-To: <bug-4016-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4016-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4016-595-guEOhIwbgn@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4016

--- Comment #3 from rce-dev at protonmail.com ---
I've compiled libetpan with the suggested changes.

The crash issue is fixed.

May I assume there is no need for the information requested in Comment 1?

Thanks, very much, for your assistance.

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From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Tue Apr 24 19:40:56 2018
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 19:40:56 +0200
Subject: [Users] Using templates
In-Reply-To: <20180424141842.3e5bbb22@ladybug>
References: <20180424134901.6a70494b@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20180424141842.3e5bbb22@ladybug>
Message-ID: <20180424194047.4d95de72@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 14:18:42 +0200, wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:

> You probably don't see why inserting or replacing can be useful or
> don't need the distinction; 

Oh yes, I do. But in the case of a fresh (empty) compose window I think
asking whether to insert or replace is not necessary.

I've now rebuilt claws from git, and attaching is working properly.

For the mailing I temporary configure (in the folder properties) a template
to use. This works nice. However, as said earlier, a "compose from
template" feature would be appreciated.

Thanks for your helpful assistance.

-- Johan


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Apr 24 19:49:25 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 17:49:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4016] Claws-mail segfault
In-Reply-To: <bug-4016-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4016-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4016-595-Ww06qYNShW@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4016

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #4 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Thanks for the confirmation, I sent the fix upstream:
https://github.com/dinhviethoa/libetpan/pull/290

As for the log, you're right that it is not necessary, although I'm still
curious how exactly the IMAP protocol responses from this ProtonMail Bridge
look, so that it confuses libetpan and makes it hit this unhandled case. If you
could send it to me privately (ticho at claws-mail.org), I'd be grateful. It's
up to you, though.

I'm closing this ticket as INVALID, since it is not a bug in Claws Mail.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Apr 24 20:50:42 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 18:50:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4017] New: Crash when jumping between unread emails
Message-ID: <bug-4017-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4017

            Bug ID: 4017
           Summary: Crash when jumping between unread emails
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.16.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 10
            Status: NEW
          Severity: major
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: w1mnkham at gmail.com

Windows 10 64bit 1803 build 17134.1 client 64bit 3.16.0

Log Name:      Application
Source:        Application Error
Date:          4/24/2018 1:26:30 PM
Event ID:      1000
Task Category: (100)
Level:         Error
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      DESKTOP-VMI25EQ
Description:
Faulting application name: claws-mail.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp:
0x00000000
Faulting module name: libcairo-2.dll, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x00000000
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x000000000004b8eb
Faulting process id: 0xa8c
Faulting application start time: 0x01d3db38e7e18dc7
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files\Claws Mail\libcairo-2.dll
Report Id: 321956c0-ce18-4a27-ac40-77436ed1ce01
Faulting package full name: 
Faulting package-relative application ID: 
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="Application Error" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>100</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2018-04-24T17:26:30.889658900Z" />
    <EventRecordID>2412</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>Application</Channel>
    <Computer>DESKTOP-VMI25EQ</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data>claws-mail.exe</Data>
    <Data>0.0.0.0</Data>
    <Data>00000000</Data>
    <Data>libcairo-2.dll</Data>
    <Data>0.0.0.0</Data>
    <Data>00000000</Data>
    <Data>c0000005</Data>
    <Data>000000000004b8eb</Data>
    <Data>a8c</Data>
    <Data>01d3db38e7e18dc7</Data>
    <Data>C:\Program Files\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe</Data>
    <Data>C:\Program Files\Claws Mail\libcairo-2.dll</Data>
    <Data>321956c0-ce18-4a27-ac40-77436ed1ce01</Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
  </EventData>
</Event>

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Apr 24 21:15:24 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 19:15:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4017] Crash when jumping between unread emails
In-Reply-To: <bug-4017-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4017-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4017-595-oaxR88HW3u@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4017

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Does the crash happen also with the 32-bit Claws Mail version?

You need to uninstall the 64-bit version before installing the 32-bit version
(and vice versa), but your data and configuration will be preserved and are
compatible, so you can change between the two versions anytime.

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From subscript at free.fr  Tue Apr 24 21:16:00 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 21:16:00 +0200
Subject: [Users] Using templates
In-Reply-To: <20180424194047.4d95de72@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
References: <20180424134901.6a70494b@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20180424141842.3e5bbb22@ladybug>
 <20180424194047.4d95de72@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <20180424211600.5eda4e77@ladybug>

Hello Johan,


On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 19:40:56 +0200 Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl> wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 14:18:42 +0200, wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:
> 
> > You probably don't see why inserting or replacing can be useful or
> > don't need the distinction;   
> 
> Oh yes, I do. But in the case of a fresh (empty) compose window I think
> asking whether to insert or replace is not necessary.
> 
> I've now rebuilt claws from git, and attaching is working properly.

Thanks for doing this, it's an effort but it's always better like this
if you cannot afford waiting for the next official package from your
distro.
 

> For the mailing I temporary configure (in the folder properties) a template
> to use. This works nice. However, as said earlier, a "compose from
> template" feature would be appreciated.

I'm not promising anything, but I'll think more about it and discuss w/
the dev team. To be honest, I have a bunch of global templates that I
use just for new composing. And what I do is: compose new, apply
template (replace), full stop. I don't see much complication here.


Regards,

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Apr 24 22:18:41 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 20:18:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4017] Crash when jumping between unread emails
In-Reply-To: <bug-4017-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4017-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4017-595-xqkUwskiZM@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4017

--- Comment #2 from Jonathan <w1mnkham at gmail.com> ---
Thanks for getting back with me. I uninstalled 64bit and installed 32bit, which
fails on start with the following error:

Log Name:      Application
Source:        Application Error
Date:          4/24/2018 4:02:50 PM
Event ID:      1000
Task Category: (100)
Level:         Error
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      DESKTOP-VMI25EQ
Description:
Faulting application name: claws-mail.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp:
0x00000000
Faulting module name: claws-mail.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x00000000
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x001f3d13
Faulting process id: 0xf3f8
Faulting application start time: 0x01d3dc07378b8deb
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe
Report Id: 96b8ae65-e803-454f-acce-fc9107f63573
Faulting package full name: 
Faulting package-relative application ID: 
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="Application Error" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>100</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2018-04-24T20:02:50.410569600Z" />
    <EventRecordID>2475</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>Application</Channel>
    <Computer>DESKTOP-VMI25EQ</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data>claws-mail.exe</Data>
    <Data>0.0.0.0</Data>
    <Data>00000000</Data>
    <Data>claws-mail.exe</Data>
    <Data>0.0.0.0</Data>
    <Data>00000000</Data>
    <Data>c0000005</Data>
    <Data>001f3d13</Data>
    <Data>f3f8</Data>
    <Data>01d3dc07378b8deb</Data>
    <Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe</Data>
    <Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe</Data>
    <Data>96b8ae65-e803-454f-acce-fc9107f63573</Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
  </EventData>
</Event>

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From olaf at aepfle.de  Wed Apr 25 10:27:44 2018
From: olaf at aepfle.de (Olaf Hering)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 10:27:44 +0200
Subject: [Users] dead area in folder list
Message-ID: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>

In the folder list, each folder has an icon left to its name. On the left beside that icon there is an area which allows to change the icon from closed to open, and back. But that area does not actually select and highlight the folder. Every other area does select that folder. Anyone else seeing this behavior?

Olaf
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Apr 25 10:45:27 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 09:45:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] dead area in folder list
In-Reply-To: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>
References: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>
Message-ID: <20180425094527.158276e1@kujata>

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 10:27:44 +0200
Olaf Hering <olaf at aepfle.de> wrote: 

> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.1 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-suse-linux-gnu)

Is that a future version of claws-mail? :)

with regards

Paul


From subscript at free.fr  Wed Apr 25 10:50:34 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 10:50:34 +0200
Subject: [Users] dead area in folder list
In-Reply-To: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>
References: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>
Message-ID: <20180425105034.7af512e8@ladybug>

Hello Olaf,


On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 10:27:44 +0200 Olaf Hering <olaf at aepfle.de> wrote:

> In the folder list, each folder has an icon left to its name. On the left beside that icon there is an area which allows to change the icon from closed to open, and back. But that area does not actually select and highlight the folder. Every other area does select that folder. Anyone else seeing this behavior?
> 
> Olaf

Can't reproduce it, I'm afraid (GTK+ 2.24.31 on a CentOS7).


Regards,

-- 
wwp
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From olaf at aepfle.de  Wed Apr 25 10:52:36 2018
From: olaf at aepfle.de (Olaf Hering)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 10:52:36 +0200
Subject: [Users] dead area in folder list
In-Reply-To: <20180425094527.158276e1@kujata>
References: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>
 <20180425094527.158276e1@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180425105236.2b1ba2f9.olaf@aepfle.de>

Am Wed, 25 Apr 2018 09:45:27 +0100
schrieb Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>:

> Is that a future version of claws-mail? :)

No. It is old by todays standards, one commit behind..
claws-mail-20180418.2a197d0dc

Olaf
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From dave at howorth.org.uk  Wed Apr 25 14:23:43 2018
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 13:23:43 +0100
Subject: [Users] dead area in folder list
In-Reply-To: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>
References: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>
Message-ID: <20180425132343.66264a80@acer-suse.lan>

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 10:27:44 +0200
Olaf Hering <olaf at aepfle.de> wrote:

> In the folder list, each folder has an icon left to its name. On the
> left beside that icon there is an area which allows to change the
> icon from closed to open, and back. But that area does not actually
> select and highlight the folder. Every other area does select that
> folder. Anyone else seeing this behavior?

Yes, I see that behaviour. It appears to be useful to me, so I expect
it is a deliberate piece of design.

When I am rearranging which folders are open and which are closed, I do
not want the focus to follow every click to the folders I am closing,
for example. I will complete my rearrangement and then select a folder
to view, if it is not the one I was at previously.


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Wed Apr 25 14:36:50 2018
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 13:36:50 +0100
Subject: [Users] dead area in folder list
In-Reply-To: <20180425132343.66264a80@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>
 <20180425132343.66264a80@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20180425133650.0000081f@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 13:23:43 +0100
Dave Howorth wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 10:27:44 +0200
> Olaf Hering <olaf at aepfle.de> wrote:
> 
> > In the folder list, each folder has an icon left to its name. On the
> > left beside that icon there is an area which allows to change the
> > icon from closed to open, and back. But that area does not actually
> > select and highlight the folder. Every other area does select that
> > folder. Anyone else seeing this behavior?  
> 
> Yes, I see that behaviour. It appears to be useful to me, so I expect
> it is a deliberate piece of design.
> 
> When I am rearranging which folders are open and which are closed, I
> do not want the focus to follow every click to the folders I am
> closing, for example. I will complete my rearrangement and then
> select a folder to view, if it is not the one I was at previously.

Entirely agree, wanting a folder tree or sub-tree expanded is not
necessarily because I want it selected, it's usually because I am about
to move some emails by drag and drop and I want to put them into a
folder that is normally hidden by its parent folder tree being
collapsed.

-- 

Brian Morrison


From jjk at jjacky.com  Wed Apr 25 15:48:40 2018
From: jjk at jjacky.com (Olivier Brunel)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 15:48:40 +0200
Subject: [Users] dead area in folder list
In-Reply-To: <20180425132343.66264a80@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>
 <20180425132343.66264a80@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20180425154840.1c9a3441@jjacky.com>

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 13:23:43 +0100
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 10:27:44 +0200
> Olaf Hering <olaf at aepfle.de> wrote:
> 
> > In the folder list, each folder has an icon left to its name. On the
> > left beside that icon there is an area which allows to change the
> > icon from closed to open, and back. But that area does not actually
> > select and highlight the folder. Every other area does select that
> > folder. Anyone else seeing this behavior?  
> 
> Yes, I see that behaviour. It appears to be useful to me, so I expect
> it is a deliberate piece of design.

I believe the oddity Olaf was referring to, is that the behavior you're
describing is absolutely fine & expected when a folder has subfolders,
and in the area in question should then exist an expander (an arrow, or
a plus/minus sign, probably depends on your theme) that you click on,
but it also works for folders that have no children - and where no such
expander exists/is visible: then you can still click on the area where
an expander would be drawn (if the folder had children), and it doesn't
select the folder but simply toggle its icon (opened/closed); Had you
clicked slightly more to the left or the right, the folder would have
been selected.

Not sure if it's a bug, by design, or just how it is, but I can see why
it might feel odd/unexpected for childless folders, due to the lack of
visual aid (expander).

HTH,


From paulsteyn1 at afrihost.co.za  Wed Apr 25 16:30:30 2018
From: paulsteyn1 at afrihost.co.za (Paul Steyn)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 16:30:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] How to set default new folder behaviour
Message-ID: <20180425163030.36951c06@afrihost.co.za>

Hi All,

I've previously set "Save copy of outgoing messages to this folder
instead of sent" on all folders, by going to the top level folder,
selecting "Properties | Compose", then marking "Save copy of outgoing
messages to this folder instead of sent" and "Apply to subfolders",
then clicking "Apply" and "OK". This sets that property on all the
folders I currently have, just as I want. However, I've noticed that
any new folders do not have this property set. How to I make this the
default? Or can it be set on a global level instead of a per folder
level?

Kind regards


Paul Steyn


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Wed Apr 25 16:37:11 2018
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 15:37:11 +0100
Subject: [Users] dead area in folder list
In-Reply-To: <20180425154840.1c9a3441@jjacky.com>
References: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>
 <20180425132343.66264a80@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180425154840.1c9a3441@jjacky.com>
Message-ID: <20180425153711.00004495@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 15:48:40 +0200
Olivier Brunel wrote:

> it doesn't
> select the folder but simply toggle its icon (opened/closed)

Does that actually do anything useful?

I've just noticed that if you click to the left of the expand/collapse
widget that the folder selection occurs, so it seems to be a little
less clear where to click for each function than I expected.

-- 

Brian Morrison


From ticho at claws-mail.org  Wed Apr 25 18:29:22 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 18:29:22 +0200
Subject: [Users] dead area in folder list
In-Reply-To: <20180425154840.1c9a3441@jjacky.com>
References: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>
 <20180425132343.66264a80@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180425154840.1c9a3441@jjacky.com>
Message-ID: <20180425182922.08e84af2@penny>

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 15:48:40 +0200
Olivier Brunel <jjk at jjacky.com> wrote:

> Not sure if it's a bug, by design, or just how it is, but I can see why
> it might feel odd/unexpected for childless folders, due to the lack of
> visual aid (expander).

It should be an easy fix to make it open the folder instead of
expanding/collapsing, if there are no children. I never noticed it
myself.

Perhaps we'll fix it in 3.16.2 release. :)

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Thu Apr 26 00:36:06 2018
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 23:36:06 +0100
Subject: [Users] dead area in folder list
In-Reply-To: <20180425182922.08e84af2@penny>
References: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>
 <20180425132343.66264a80@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180425154840.1c9a3441@jjacky.com>
 <20180425182922.08e84af2@penny>
Message-ID: <20180425233606.75a2908c@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 18:29:22 +0200
Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org> wrote:

> Perhaps we'll fix it in 3.16.2 release. :)

Please don't...

-- 

Brian Morrison

                "I am not young enough to know everything"
                                                          Oscar Wilde


From ticho at claws-mail.org  Thu Apr 26 00:54:34 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 00:54:34 +0200
Subject: [Users] dead area in folder list
In-Reply-To: <20180425233606.75a2908c@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>
 <20180425132343.66264a80@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180425154840.1c9a3441@jjacky.com>
 <20180425182922.08e84af2@penny>
 <20180425233606.75a2908c@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20180426005434.4109c1cc@penny>

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 23:36:06 +0100
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 18:29:22 +0200
> Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org> wrote:
> 
> > Perhaps we'll fix it in 3.16.2 release. :)  
> 
> Please don't...
> 

Why not?

-- 
Andrej


From cae at eslrahc.com  Thu Apr 26 01:03:06 2018
From: cae at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 19:03:06 -0400
Subject: [Users] dead area in folder list
In-Reply-To: <20180425182922.08e84af2@penny>
References: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>
 <20180425132343.66264a80@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180425154840.1c9a3441@jjacky.com>
 <20180425182922.08e84af2@penny>
Message-ID: <20180425190306.429a86a7@Boss1800.eslrahc.com>

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 18:29:22 +0200
Andrej Kacian wrote:

> > Not sure if it's a bug, by design, or just how it is, but I can see
> > why it might feel odd/unexpected for childless folders, due to the
> > lack of visual aid (expander).  
> 
> It should be an easy fix to make it open the folder instead of
> expanding/collapsing, if there are no children. I never noticed it
> myself.
> 
> Perhaps we'll fix it in 3.16.2 release. :)

Please do not.

It is standard and proper folder|directory behavior.

Check it in your file manager of choice.
Open Any folder|directory on your system that that contains
sub-folders.
The folder will be opened but no included sub-folder or file will be
selected or highlighted unless you specifically choose it.


    Charles 
 

-- 
F.S. Fitzgerald to Hemingway:
	"Ernest, the rich are different from us."
Hemingway:
	"Yes.  They have more money."
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From subscript at free.fr  Thu Apr 26 08:27:02 2018
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 08:27:02 +0200
Subject: [Users] dead area in folder list
In-Reply-To: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>
References: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>
Message-ID: <20180426082702.4510aaea@ladybug>

Hello Olaf,


On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 10:27:44 +0200 Olaf Hering <olaf at aepfle.de> wrote:

> In the folder list, each folder has an icon left to its name. On the left beside that icon there is an area which allows to change the icon from closed to open, and back. But that area does not actually select and highlight the folder. Every other area does select that folder. Anyone else seeing this behavior?

Ah, now I see what you mean, it's the way the widget works and I'm glad
it works that way!


Regards,

-- 
wwp
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From ticho at claws-mail.org  Thu Apr 26 08:42:47 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 08:42:47 +0200
Subject: [Users] dead area in folder list
In-Reply-To: <20180426082702.4510aaea@ladybug>
References: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>
 <20180426082702.4510aaea@ladybug>
Message-ID: <20180426084247.3d9c2e31@penny>

On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 08:27:02 +0200
wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:

> Hello Olaf,
> 
> 
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 10:27:44 +0200 Olaf Hering <olaf at aepfle.de> wrote:
> 
> > In the folder list, each folder has an icon left to its name. On the left beside that icon there is an area which allows to change the icon from closed to open, and back. But that area does not actually select and highlight the folder. Every other area does select that folder. Anyone else seeing this behavior?  
> 
> Ah, now I see what you mean, it's the way the widget works and I'm glad
> it works that way!

Hm, am I the only one who thinks it's stupid that clicking a small area
in the middle that does not look any different from the rest of the
folder "line" does not open the folder, but instead pointlessly toggles
the folder icon between "open" and "closed"?

It's counter-intuitive, and no better than the weird Microsoft
interfaces where you're never sure what is an active widget and what is
just a passive informative label or icon, because there are no bevels
or borders.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej
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From jjk at jjacky.com  Thu Apr 26 09:20:27 2018
From: jjk at jjacky.com (Olivier Brunel)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 09:20:27 +0200
Subject: [Users] dead area in folder list
In-Reply-To: <20180425190306.429a86a7@Boss1800.eslrahc.com>
References: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>
 <20180425132343.66264a80@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180425154840.1c9a3441@jjacky.com>
 <20180425182922.08e84af2@penny>
 <20180425190306.429a86a7@Boss1800.eslrahc.com>
Message-ID: <20180426092027.78ce8ebd@jjacky.com>

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 19:03:06 -0400
Charles A Edwards <cae at eslrahc.com> wrote:

> It is standard and proper folder|directory behavior.
> 
> Check it in your file manager of choice.
> Open Any folder|directory on your system that that contains
> sub-folders.
> The folder will be opened but no included sub-folder or file will be
> selected or highlighted unless you specifically choose it.

Are you sure you're talking about the same thing? This is specifically
about a folder that does *not* have any children, yet for which an area
exists that can be clicked that will simply toggle its icon (for no
good reason), instead of selecting it as it would elsewhere.

This does not affect any folder that has children, nothing will be
changed for those of course.


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Thu Apr 26 15:43:50 2018
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 15:43:50 +0200
Subject: [Users] dead area in folder list
In-Reply-To: <20180426092027.78ce8ebd@jjacky.com>
References: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>
 <20180425132343.66264a80@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180425154840.1c9a3441@jjacky.com>
 <20180425182922.08e84af2@penny>
 <20180425190306.429a86a7@Boss1800.eslrahc.com>
 <20180426092027.78ce8ebd@jjacky.com>
Message-ID: <20180426154350.457ae5c8@gandalf.lan3>

Oliver,

> Are you sure you're talking about the same thing? This is specifically
> about a folder that does *not* have any children, yet for which an area
> exists that can be clicked that will simply toggle its icon (for no
> good reason), instead of selecting it as it would elsewhere.

I am a little pzuzzled because i don't see such an icon for 'childless' folders.

Theme stw, claws 3.16.0


From jjk at jjacky.com  Thu Apr 26 16:07:42 2018
From: jjk at jjacky.com (Olivier Brunel)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 16:07:42 +0200
Subject: [Users] dead area in folder list
In-Reply-To: <20180426154350.457ae5c8@gandalf.lan3>
References: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>
 <20180425132343.66264a80@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180425154840.1c9a3441@jjacky.com>
 <20180425182922.08e84af2@penny>
 <20180425190306.429a86a7@Boss1800.eslrahc.com>
 <20180426092027.78ce8ebd@jjacky.com>
 <20180426154350.457ae5c8@gandalf.lan3>
Message-ID: <20180426160742.73f47d16@jjacky.com>

On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 15:43:50 +0200
Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote:

> Oliver,
> 
> > Are you sure you're talking about the same thing? This is
> > specifically about a folder that does *not* have any children, yet
> > for which an area exists that can be clicked that will simply
> > toggle its icon (for no good reason), instead of selecting it as it
> > would elsewhere.  
> 
> I am a little pzuzzled because i don't see such an icon for
> 'childless' folders.

Yes, I think that's the point: for childless folders there is no
expander, nothing to see, and yet clicking on that small area still has
special handling "as if" there was an expander.

(IOW it's as if, for childless folders, instead of removing the
expander it had simply been hidden / not been drawn, but cliking on
"it" (where it would have been drawn) was still possible and processed
with special (expand/collapse) meaning.)


When Andrej is talking abount fixing it, it would mean "removing" that
special area, i.e. have it behave as when clicking on the rest of the
row (again, this is only for childless folders).
But obviously, whenever there is an expander (i.e. folders with
children) then nothing would change, everything works as expected
there.


--

Also, trying to be clear: when I said "toggle its icon" earlier I was
then referring to the folder's icon, toggling between that of an opened
folder and a closed one; I was not talking about the expander you
click on.


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Thu Apr 26 16:24:20 2018
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 15:24:20 +0100
Subject: [Users] dead area in folder list
In-Reply-To: <20180426005434.4109c1cc@penny>
References: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>
 <20180425132343.66264a80@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180425154840.1c9a3441@jjacky.com>
 <20180425182922.08e84af2@penny>
 <20180425233606.75a2908c@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20180426005434.4109c1cc@penny>
Message-ID: <20180426152420.0000248a@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 00:54:34 +0200
Andrej Kacian wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 23:36:06 +0100
> Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 18:29:22 +0200
> > Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org> wrote:
> >   
> > > Perhaps we'll fix it in 3.16.2 release. :)    
> > 
> > Please don't...
> >   
> 
> Why not?
> 

What I mean is, please don't change the way the collapse/expand widget
works. Of course if it's possible to have a different widget for
childless folders, so that clicking anywhere selects or deselects that
folder then I won't complain, but I'm so used to the existing behaviour
that I wouldn't like it to change in a way that makes the folder tree
harder to use.

-- 

Brian Morrison


From ticho at claws-mail.org  Thu Apr 26 17:26:40 2018
From: ticho at claws-mail.org (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 17:26:40 +0200
Subject: [Users] dead area in folder list
In-Reply-To: <20180426160742.73f47d16@jjacky.com>
References: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>
 <20180425132343.66264a80@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180425154840.1c9a3441@jjacky.com>
 <20180425182922.08e84af2@penny>
 <20180425190306.429a86a7@Boss1800.eslrahc.com>
 <20180426092027.78ce8ebd@jjacky.com>
 <20180426154350.457ae5c8@gandalf.lan3>
 <20180426160742.73f47d16@jjacky.com>
Message-ID: <20180426172640.02fc34e8@penny>

On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 16:07:42 +0200
Olivier Brunel <jjk at jjacky.com> wrote:

> When Andrej is talking abount fixing it, it would mean "removing" that
> special area, i.e. have it behave as when clicking on the rest of the
> row (again, this is only for childless folders).
> But obviously, whenever there is an expander (i.e. folders with
> children) then nothing would change, everything works as expected
> there.

Yep, exactly.

The attached patch does just that, anyone is feel free to test it for
themselves.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Thu Apr 26 17:43:47 2018
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 16:43:47 +0100
Subject: [Users] dead area in folder list
In-Reply-To: <20180426172640.02fc34e8@penny>
References: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>
 <20180425132343.66264a80@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180425154840.1c9a3441@jjacky.com>
 <20180425182922.08e84af2@penny>
 <20180425190306.429a86a7@Boss1800.eslrahc.com>
 <20180426092027.78ce8ebd@jjacky.com>
 <20180426154350.457ae5c8@gandalf.lan3>
 <20180426160742.73f47d16@jjacky.com>
 <20180426172640.02fc34e8@penny>
Message-ID: <20180426164347.0000489b@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 17:26:40 +0200
Andrej Kacian wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 16:07:42 +0200
> Olivier Brunel <jjk at jjacky.com> wrote:
> 
> > When Andrej is talking abount fixing it, it would mean "removing"
> > that special area, i.e. have it behave as when clicking on the rest
> > of the row (again, this is only for childless folders).
> > But obviously, whenever there is an expander (i.e. folders with
> > children) then nothing would change, everything works as expected
> > there.  
> 
> Yep, exactly.
> 
> The attached patch does just that, anyone is feel free to test it for
> themselves.

Well it seems to do what I wanted, which is not to change anything
relating to folders with children.

I'd say it's a nice simplification and from only a two line patch!

-- 

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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Thu Apr 26 17:57:54 2018
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 16:57:54 +0100
Subject: [Users] dead area in folder list
In-Reply-To: <20180426172640.02fc34e8@penny>
References: <20180425102744.32dbc32c.olaf@aepfle.de>
 <20180425132343.66264a80@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180425154840.1c9a3441@jjacky.com>
 <20180425182922.08e84af2@penny>
 <20180425190306.429a86a7@Boss1800.eslrahc.com>
 <20180426092027.78ce8ebd@jjacky.com>
 <20180426154350.457ae5c8@gandalf.lan3>
 <20180426160742.73f47d16@jjacky.com>
 <20180426172640.02fc34e8@penny>
Message-ID: <20180426165754.349d0b7b@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 17:26:40 +0200
Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org> wrote:

Hello Andrej,

>The attached patch does just that, anyone is feel free to test it for
>themselves.

As Brian says, it's working nicely.  Cheers Andrej.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Apr 27 11:57:54 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 09:57:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4018] New: Provide preferences for improved
 readability in message view
Message-ID: <bug-4018-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4018

            Bug ID: 4018
           Summary: Provide preferences for improved readability in
                    message view
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.16.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message View
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: removed-gdpr at example.com

Line width (characters per line), indentation and line spacing are important
factors for text readability.

Currently CM doesn't seem to provide many options for those in message view and
the "Line space" option seems to affect only the space between paragraphs.

On a big/wide screen where a message can become quite wide it becomes difficult
to read if it is not word wrapped by the sender. That is the case even if the
program window is not fully maximized. The only way to make the message more
narrow in the standard layout (apart from opening it in a separate window) is
to reduce the overall window width. But that comes at the expense of narrowing
also the message list which truncates useful info like message date, subject,
etc. So one needs to compromise. Additionally having the message text flow
right to the edge of its frame makes it additionally difficult to read in many
cases.

This can be improved by having options for message view:

- left/right margin
- maximum width of non-wrapped text
- center (or not) the text which is narrowed as a result of the above
- easy/quick way to toggle the message view font between two possibilities,
e.g. monospaced and non-monospaced. Sometimes non-monospaced font is easier to
read.
- perhaps even a way to scale up/down the message view font (like one does in a
browser using ctrl+/- or ctrl+scroll)

Of course it makes sense that these should be only for message view, i.e. they
should work independently of the compositing wrapping preferences. That can be
quite useful for reading news/RSS or other messages with lengthy lines.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Apr 27 19:26:46 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 17:26:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1379] Quota support
In-Reply-To: <bug-1379-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1379-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1379-595-r3Wg6BP570@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1379

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|RESOLVED                    |REOPENED
         Resolution|WONTFIX                     |---

--- Comment #2 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Let's keep this one open.

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From dave at howorth.org.uk  Sun Apr 29 17:04:18 2018
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 16:04:18 +0100
Subject: [Users] Mail to list of addresses
Message-ID: <20180429160418.1922b0ba@acer-suse.lan>

How do I send mail to a list of addresses?

I have a bunch of people who I've just added to a newly created Address
Book so that I can send them all an email. But I can't figure out how
to do it.

The message I want to send is already composed and includes
attachments. How do I select all the names in the address book and add
them to the address fields of the email?

I have found the Mail To entry on the context menu of the adress book
list, but that creates a new empty mail with the addressees. If I
select Copy from that context menu and then try to paste into the
address field of my mail, it seems to paste instead what I happened
to have selected (copied) previously. In other words, the Copy menu
entry doesn't seem to work. What am I missing?

Thanks, Dave


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Apr 29 17:11:31 2018
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 16:11:31 +0100
Subject: [Users] Mail to list of addresses
In-Reply-To: <20180429160418.1922b0ba@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20180429160418.1922b0ba@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20180429161131.314f7fdf@kujata>

On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 16:04:18 +0100
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote: 

> I have found the Mail To entry on the context menu of the adress
> book list, but that creates a new empty mail with the addressees.

Open the Address Book from the Compose window's Tools menu and not
from the main window's menu.

with regards

Paul


From dave at howorth.org.uk  Sun Apr 29 17:17:32 2018
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 16:17:32 +0100
Subject: [Users] Mail to list of addresses
In-Reply-To: <20180429161131.314f7fdf@kujata>
References: <20180429160418.1922b0ba@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180429161131.314f7fdf@kujata>
Message-ID: <20180429161732.6edc647f@acer-suse.lan>

On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 16:11:31 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 16:04:18 +0100
> Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote: 
> 
> > I have found the Mail To entry on the context menu of the adress
> > book list, but that creates a new empty mail with the addressees.  
> 
> Open the Address Book from the Compose window's Tools menu and not
> from the main window's menu.

Thanks for the amazingly fast response! But that doesn't work - it just
opens a new empty compose window and pastes the addresses into that.

Cheers, Dave


From johngeoffreywalker at yahoo.co.uk  Sun Apr 29 18:19:32 2018
From: johngeoffreywalker at yahoo.co.uk (John G Walker)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 17:19:32 +0100
Subject: [Users] Mail to list of addresses
In-Reply-To: <20180429160418.1922b0ba@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20180429160418.1922b0ba@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20180429171932.21205a21@Adele>



On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 16:04:18 +0100 Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk>
wrote:

> How do I send mail to a list of addresses?
> 
> I have a bunch of people who I've just added to a newly created
> Address Book so that I can send them all an email. But I can't figure
> out how to do it.
> 
> The message I want to send is already composed and includes
> attachments. How do I select all the names in the address book and add
> them to the address fields of the email?
> 
> I have found the Mail To entry on the context menu of the adress book
> list, but that creates a new empty mail with the addressees. If I
> select Copy from that context menu and then try to paste into the
> address field of my mail, it seems to paste instead what I happened
> to have selected (copied) previously. In other words, the Copy menu
> entry doesn't seem to work. What am I missing?
> 
> Thanks, Dave
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

Seems like you need to create a group in the address book and put that
name of the group in the To field. Or, better still, in the Bcc field,
to keep them hidden,

-- 
 All the best,
 John


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Sun Apr 29 19:41:24 2018
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 19:41:24 +0200
Subject: [Users] Mail to list of addresses
In-Reply-To: <20180429161732.6edc647f@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20180429160418.1922b0ba@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180429161131.314f7fdf@kujata>
 <20180429161732.6edc647f@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20180429194124.34ff2848@gandalf.lan3>

Dave,

It seems you can do it this way:

1. Open the message for editing (compose window)
2. Click into 'To' field 
3. Click Tools --> Addressbook
4. In the adressbook, select folder or group
5. select all 
6. Click 'To:' button below (or 'BCC:')

That should insert the selected addresses into the edited mail.






From dave at howorth.org.uk  Sun Apr 29 21:38:51 2018
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 20:38:51 +0100
Subject: [Users] Mail to list of addresses
In-Reply-To: <20180429194124.34ff2848@gandalf.lan3>
References: <20180429160418.1922b0ba@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180429161131.314f7fdf@kujata>
 <20180429161732.6edc647f@acer-suse.lan>
 <20180429194124.34ff2848@gandalf.lan3>
Message-ID: <20180429203851.561d1571@acer-suse.lan>

On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 19:41:24 +0200
Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote:
> Dave,
> 
> It seems you can do it this way:
Or not, in my case:

> 1. Open the message for editing (compose window)
> 2. Click into 'To' field 
> 3. Click Tools --> Addressbook
> 4. In the adressbook, select folder or group
> 5. select all
All good up until this point

> 6. Click 'To:' button below (or 'BCC:')
> 
> That should insert the selected addresses into the edited mail.

But no, step 6 results in claws hanging and a dialog box offering to
terminate the process.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Apr 30 10:56:25 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 08:56:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4019] New: Dark GTK theme is applied incompletely if
 CM is loaded on system start
Message-ID: <bug-4019-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4019

            Bug ID: 4019
           Summary: Dark GTK theme is applied incompletely if CM is loaded
                    on system start
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: other
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: den_ml at posteo.de

Created attachment 1867
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1867&action=edit
On system start

I use a dark GTK theme (Vertex-Maia-Dark), and if Claws Mail is loaded on
system start, the theme is not applied completely (see screenshot). If Claws
Mail is started manually after the machine has finished loading everything,
then its interface looks as it's supposed to look.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Apr 30 10:57:31 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 08:57:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4019] Dark GTK theme is applied incompletely if CM is
 loaded on system start
In-Reply-To: <bug-4019-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4019-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4019-595-pU2n875aym@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4019

--- Comment #1 from Denis <den_ml at posteo.de> ---
Created attachment 1868
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1868&action=edit
On manual load

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Apr 30 13:09:56 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:09:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4020] New: Publish Claws Mail Flatpak on flathub.org
Message-ID: <bug-4020-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4020

            Bug ID: 4020
           Summary: Publish Claws Mail Flatpak on flathub.org
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.16.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: michael.hofer at adfinis-sygroup.ch

Hi

Over the past few days I worked on a Flatpak to provide claws-mail
(https://github.com/karras/flatpak-claws-mail).

It reached a point where I'd like to open a pull request to the Flathub
repository (https://github.com/flathub/flathub).

As this will require continuous maintenance, which I'd offer to take care of, I
wanted to check back with the dev team if this okay or if you've been working
on it on your end anyway.

Overall my current Flatpak works but will for sure require addtional
polishing. Especially how we want to handle the plugins properly (e.g. ship a
few by default, include via extensions, etc.).

Thanks for your feedback!

Cheers

Michael

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From pf at pfortin.com  Mon Apr 30 14:58:08 2018
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 08:58:08 -0400
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4019] New: Dark GTK theme is applied incompletely
 if CM is loaded on system start
In-Reply-To: <bug-4019-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4019-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20180430085808.485f2179@pfortin.com>

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 08:56:25 +0000 noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:

>http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4019

>I use a dark GTK theme (Vertex-Maia-Dark), and if Claws Mail is loaded on
>system start, the theme is not applied completely (see screenshot). If Claws
>Mail is started manually after the machine has finished loading everything,
>then its interface looks as it's supposed to look.

Sounds like this could be handled in crontab with an

 @reboot sleep N && <path>/claws-mail

where N is the number of seconds needed to make sure whatever CM needs is
ready...


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Apr 30 15:49:17 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 13:49:17 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 4020] Publish Claws Mail Flatpak on flathub.org
In-Reply-To: <bug-4020-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-4020-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-4020-595-MQSOL78MA9@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4020

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Hello Michael, we haven't been working on this, nor do we plan to. Good luck
with it.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Apr 30 21:01:13 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 19:01:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3840] Actions do not honour next_on_delete
In-Reply-To: <bug-3840-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3840-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3840-595-6gyChyB9hQ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3840

--- Comment #2 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
This bug seems very similar to #1857.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Apr 30 21:05:25 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 19:05:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2708] suggestion for clearer folder list appearance
In-Reply-To: <bug-2708-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2708-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2708-595-81kBIVnIq9@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2708

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |WONTFIX

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Apr 30 22:58:53 2018
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:58:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3951] First unread message selected surprisingly in
 some scenarios
In-Reply-To: <bug-3951-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3951-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3951-595-cECc3Gc2b3@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3951

--- Comment #2 from Shai Berger <shai at platonix.com> ---
As noted in Bug 3840#c3, Bug 1857 is also related.

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