From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Jul  2 00:40:45 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2017 00:40:45 +0200
Subject: [Users] crash on Windows 8.1 caused by libcairo-2.dll
In-Reply-To: <20170620234659.07ecd906@penny>
References: <20170613120005.0000068b@secarica.ro>
 <20170613140653.366cb6b9.andrej@kacian.sk>
 <20170613162417.00002368@secarica.ro>
 <20170620185504.087b330e@penny>
 <20170620234215.0000685a@secarica.ro>
 <20170620234659.07ecd906@penny>
Message-ID: <20170702004045.0c9907e3@penny>

On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 23:46:59 +0200
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> Meanwhile, I'm going to build another version with libpng 1.6 instead
> of current 1.4. That is the only visible difference from the "good"
> libcairo.

It took a while, but I've just uploaded beta2 to
http://claws-mail.org/win32/test/

This is basically the same thing as beta1, except with latest libpng
1.6, instead of 1.4. I have little hope that it will stop the crashes,
but hey, one iteration at a time. :)

Sorry it took so long, summer is killing my productivity, with all the
heat and fun that can be had outside.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Jul  2 00:50:18 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2017 00:50:18 +0200
Subject: [Users] crash on Windows 8.1 caused by libcairo-2.dll
In-Reply-To: <20170621012808.00007f1f@secarica.ro>
References: <20170613120005.0000068b@secarica.ro>
 <20170613140653.366cb6b9.andrej@kacian.sk>
 <20170613162417.00002368@secarica.ro>
 <20170620185504.087b330e@penny>
 <20170620234215.0000685a@secarica.ro>
 <20170620234659.07ecd906@penny>
 <20170621012808.00007f1f@secarica.ro>
Message-ID: <20170702005018.6b942cfd@penny>

On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 01:28:08 +0300
Cristian Secară <liste at secarica.ro> wrote:

> > Thanks for the test. Could you also grab a windows version of GDB and
> > get a backtrace of the libcairo crash (with the "original" DLL from
> > our installer)? I can provide a DLL without the debug symbols
> > stripped, if needed.  
> 
> Yes, I think I can – just need to find a Windows build of GDB & to know what to do with it (currently I have no idea, since I never used it).

I've used the one at:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw-w64/files/External%20binary%20packages%20%28Win64%20hosted%29/gdb/

You need to make sure you have the correct one (32 or 64bit, depending
on which Claws Mail build you're running).

It is a commandline program, so run it in a cmd.exe window, with a full
path to claws-mail.exe as its only argument. In the gdb shell, just
type "run", and when you get a crash and get dumped back to the gdb
shell, you can get a backtrace with "bt" or "bt full". Or if you want
to see backtrace of all threads (Windows creates a lot of them),
"thread apply all bt".

I suggest starting with the 32-bit build. I have uploaded unstripped
claws-mail.exe and libcairo-2.dll to
http://claws-mail.org/win32/test/beta2-dlls-32bit
Using them instead of the DLLs from installer should give meaningful
backtraces in gdb.

I can upload more such DLLs as needed, but hopefully not all of them
(some are huge).

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From liste at secarica.ro  Sun Jul  2 11:29:56 2017
From: liste at secarica.ro (Cristian =?UTF-8?Q?Secar=C4=83?=)
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2017 12:29:56 +0300
Subject: [Users] crash on Windows 8.1 caused by libcairo-2.dll
In-Reply-To: <20170702005018.6b942cfd@penny>
References: <20170613120005.0000068b@secarica.ro>
 <20170613140653.366cb6b9.andrej@kacian.sk>
 <20170613162417.00002368@secarica.ro>
 <20170620185504.087b330e@penny>
 <20170620234215.0000685a@secarica.ro>
 <20170620234659.07ecd906@penny>
 <20170621012808.00007f1f@secarica.ro>
 <20170702005018.6b942cfd@penny>
Message-ID: <20170702122900.000035b9@secarica.ro>

În data de Sun, 2 Jul 2017 00:50:18 +0200, Andrej Kacian a scris:

> I've used the one at:
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw-w64/files/External%20binary%20packages%20%28Win64%20hosted%29/gdb/
> 
> You need to make sure you have the correct one (32 or 64bit, depending
> on which Claws Mail build you're running).
> 

So far I tried only with the 64bit version.

1. Running the new build, it crashed as usual :)

2. I turned back to my old (stable) Claws Mail, but replaced only
libcairo-2.dll and libpng16-16.dll files from this test build; it
crashed the same

3. I run gdb -- see the attached log files.

Maybe some useful info: in order to generate the crash, I just click at
random on several mail folders, one after the other and somewhat quick,
i.e. I don't wait for the display to finish rendering a particular
folder. Using this method the crash occurs in less than one minute.

Today I don't think I have much time to do more tests (for example with
32bit version), but probably I can to this the next days.

I am not such in a hurry, since (for me) the two Inkscape files still
makes Claws Mail rock solid :)

Cristi

-- 
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http://www.secărică.ro
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From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Jul  2 12:16:57 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2017 12:16:57 +0200
Subject: [Users] crash on Windows 8.1 caused by libcairo-2.dll
In-Reply-To: <20170702122900.000035b9@secarica.ro>
References: <20170613120005.0000068b@secarica.ro>
 <20170613140653.366cb6b9.andrej@kacian.sk>
 <20170613162417.00002368@secarica.ro>
 <20170620185504.087b330e@penny>
 <20170620234215.0000685a@secarica.ro>
 <20170620234659.07ecd906@penny>
 <20170621012808.00007f1f@secarica.ro>
 <20170702005018.6b942cfd@penny>
 <20170702122900.000035b9@secarica.ro>
Message-ID: <20170702121657.73136c17@penny>

On Sun, 2 Jul 2017 12:29:56 +0300
Cristian Secară <liste at secarica.ro> wrote:

> > I've used the one at:
> > https://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw-w64/files/External%20binary%20packages%20%28Win64%20hosted%29/gdb/
> > 
> > You need to make sure you have the correct one (32 or 64bit, depending
> > on which Claws Mail build you're running).
> >   
> 
> So far I tried only with the 64bit version.
> 
> 1. Running the new build, it crashed as usual :)

As expected then. Oh well.

> 2. I turned back to my old (stable) Claws Mail, but replaced only
> libcairo-2.dll and libpng16-16.dll files from this test build; it
> crashed the same
> 
> 3. I run gdb -- see the attached log files.

I see the same crash backtrace as I've already seen from someone else -
an impossible backtrace. In frame #1, cairo_status() is a simple
one-line function that only returns an integer variable, and can not in
any way call cairo_scaled_font_status() (frame #0).

I've had some weird issues in using 64-bit GDB on Windows myself in the
past, so while disappointing, it does not surprise me.

I would appreciate it if you could try to get a gdb backtrace with the
32-bit build and the two provided debug files, perhaps the backtrace
will be something real then.

> Maybe some useful info: in order to generate the crash, I just click at
> random on several mail folders, one after the other and somewhat quick,
> i.e. I don't wait for the display to finish rendering a particular
> folder. Using this method the crash occurs in less than one minute.

After one such crash, could you look in file claws-win32.log in your
TMPDIR, to see if there are any failed assertion warnings? There could
be something relevant there.

> Today I don't think I have much time to do more tests (for example with
> 32bit version), but probably I can to this the next days.
> 
> I am not such in a hurry, since (for me) the two Inkscape files still
> makes Claws Mail rock solid :)

I'll have to talk to Inkscape guys what their secret formula is,
because this bug is really bugging me - especially when I can not
reproduce it myself. :)

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From liste at secarica.ro  Sun Jul  2 13:47:53 2017
From: liste at secarica.ro (Cristian =?UTF-8?Q?Secar=C4=83?=)
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2017 14:47:53 +0300
Subject: [Users] crash on Windows 8.1 caused by libcairo-2.dll
In-Reply-To: <20170702121657.73136c17@penny>
References: <20170613120005.0000068b@secarica.ro>
 <20170613140653.366cb6b9.andrej@kacian.sk>
 <20170613162417.00002368@secarica.ro>
 <20170620185504.087b330e@penny>
 <20170620234215.0000685a@secarica.ro>
 <20170620234659.07ecd906@penny>
 <20170621012808.00007f1f@secarica.ro>
 <20170702005018.6b942cfd@penny>
 <20170702122900.000035b9@secarica.ro>
 <20170702121657.73136c17@penny>
Message-ID: <20170702144753.0000640e@secarica.ro>

În data de Sun, 2 Jul 2017 12:16:57 +0200, Andrej Kacian a scris:

> I would appreciate it if you could try to get a gdb backtrace with the
> 32-bit build and the two provided debug files, perhaps the backtrace
> will be something real then.

Well, bad luck (so to say): I "installed" the 32bit version in
Program Files (x86) (i.e. just unpacked there the package, no true
install), run it, but this one worked well and didn't crash (or I was
not able to crash it). Therefore, at least at first glance, it seems to
be a 64bit-only trouble.

I tried with the package named beta 2 and also by replacing the two
individual special build files.

Other thing -- assuming I want to debug the 32bit version (just in
case), I don't know where to get the 32bit gdb version, since the
previously indicated place is a 64bit place only. I already have the
MinGW package installed (done sometimes in the past), cannot remember
which version, but it is not of much help either: running its gdb with
Claws Mail 64bit says claws-mail.exe is not an executable (so it might
be a 32bit MinGW), but running that gdb with Clasw Mail 32bit nothing
happens, i.e. it does not launch anything. Perhaps a different syntax is
required ?

> After one such crash, could you look in file claws-win32.log in your
> TMPDIR, to see if there are any failed assertion warnings? There could
> be something relevant there.

Nothing useful, I suppose: the log is almost empty, such as
C:\Users\secarica\AppData\Roaming\Claws-mail\clawsrc:
or the same but added the last (?) selected folder before crash, such as
C:\Users\secarica\AppData\Roaming\Claws-mail\clawsrc: selecting folder
'#mh/liste/inbox\claws'

> [...] this bug is really bugging me - especially when I can not
> reproduce it myself. :)

Probably Windows 8+etc. is required ? This problem never occurred in
Windows 7 (also 64bit, same hardware system).

Cristi

-- 
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http://www.secărică.ro


From liste at secarica.ro  Sun Jul  2 21:35:04 2017
From: liste at secarica.ro (Cristian =?UTF-8?Q?Secar=C4=83?=)
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2017 22:35:04 +0300
Subject: [Users] crash on Windows 8.1 caused by libcairo-2.dll
In-Reply-To: <20170702144753.0000640e@secarica.ro>
References: <20170613120005.0000068b@secarica.ro>
 <20170613140653.366cb6b9.andrej@kacian.sk>
 <20170613162417.00002368@secarica.ro>
 <20170620185504.087b330e@penny>
 <20170620234215.0000685a@secarica.ro>
 <20170620234659.07ecd906@penny>
 <20170621012808.00007f1f@secarica.ro>
 <20170702005018.6b942cfd@penny>
 <20170702122900.000035b9@secarica.ro>
 <20170702121657.73136c17@penny>
 <20170702144753.0000640e@secarica.ro>
Message-ID: <20170702223453.000032f0@secarica.ro>

În data de Sun, 2 Jul 2017 14:47:53 +0300, Cristian Secară a scris:

> or the same but added the last (?) selected folder before crash, such
> as C:\Users\secarica\AppData\Roaming\Claws-mail\clawsrc: selecting folder '#mh/liste/inbox\claws'

Just curious (I observed this some time ago): Claws Mail code (or GTK+
code) knows how to read correctly a path with either / or \ ?

Cristi

-- 
Cristian Secară
http://www.secărică.ro


From prahladyeri at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  3 06:01:03 2017
From: prahladyeri at yahoo.com (Prahlad Yeri)
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2017 09:31:03 +0530
Subject: [Users] What is the large S logo on top-right corner of message
	views?
Message-ID: <20170703093103.00001fa3@yahoo.com>

Hi,

For some reason, I'm seeing a large S logo on top-right of message
views (PFA). I couldn't find about this anywhere in the docs or online
tutorials, what exactly is this?

-- 
Regards,

Prahlad
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From ragnar at iinet.net.au  Mon Jul  3 07:47:41 2017
From: ragnar at iinet.net.au (ragnar)
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2017 15:47:41 +1000
Subject: [Users] What is the large S logo on top-right corner of message
 views?
In-Reply-To: <20170703093103.00001fa3@yahoo.com>
References: <20170703093103.00001fa3@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20170703154741.5c432844@X260.fritz.box>

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On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 09:31:03 +0530
Prahlad Yeri <prahladyeri at yahoo.com> hacked into the keyboard:

> Hi,
> 
> For some reason, I'm seeing a large S logo on top-right of message
> views (PFA). I couldn't find about this anywhere in the docs or online
> tutorials, what exactly is this?
> 

It is an X-face.

The image data is included in the posting as encoded text, and
attached with an 'X-Face' header.

- From the claws-mail man page:
DESCRIPTION
       Currently implemented features include:
              · X-Face and (colour) Face support


- -- 
Ragnar Johanson                                 Darwin/macOS
ragnar[at]iinet[flyspeck]net[flyspeck]au
Please no HTML or proprietary data in email!   
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jul  3 09:03:12 2017
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2017 08:03:12 +0100
Subject: [Users] What is the large S logo on top-right corner of message
 views?
In-Reply-To: <20170703154741.5c432844@X260.fritz.box>
References: <20170703093103.00001fa3@yahoo.com>
 <20170703154741.5c432844@X260.fritz.box>
Message-ID: <20170703080312.30659983@kujata>

On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 15:47:41 +1000
ragnar <ragnar at iinet.net.au> wrote: 

> It is an X-face.
> 
> The image data is included in the posting as encoded text, and
> attached with an 'X-Face' header.
> 
> - From the claws-mail man page:
> DESCRIPTION
>        Currently implemented features include:
>               · X-Face and (colour) Face support

Actually, that's a Face header not an X-Face header, the latter being
black/white only.

http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Installation_and_Configuration#How_can_I_make_Claws_Mail_send_my_compface_image_in_the_mails.3F

http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Installation_and_Configuration#How_can_I_make_Claws_Mail_send_a_colour_Face_image_in_the_mails.3F

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jul  3 15:53:23 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 13:53:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3836] Give PGP/MIME signatures a name of
 "signature.asc" instead of "noname"
In-Reply-To: <bug-3836-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3836-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3836-595-GyWntx9kVt@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3836

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
         Resolution|FIXED                       |WONTFIX

--- Comment #9 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
FWIW, this has been reverted, as it causes more problems (e.g.
antivirus/antispam software) than it solves.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jul  3 20:10:43 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 18:10:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3836] Give PGP/MIME signatures a name of
 "signature.asc" instead of "noname"
In-Reply-To: <bug-3836-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3836-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3836-595-YIH4NE1BJg@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3836

--- Comment #10 from Olivier Brunel <jjk at jjacky.com> ---
Created attachment 1763
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1763&action=edit
Add a 'signature.asc' name for PGP MIME signatures

For what it's worth, isn't it possible to simply add a "name" parameter to the
Content-Type, w/out adding a Content-Disposition header?

When this was first implemented (commit c099ea75) both that and a
Content-Disposition header were done, then later both removed. But maybe
keeping only the name parameter is enough to help w/out triggering
confusion/issues wrt antivirus & such.

(FWIW I believe it's what Mutt does.)

Attached patch does just that, which - from the few tests I could do - seems to
work fine w/ (claws ofc, as well as) gmail.

HTH

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jul  3 20:11:50 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 18:11:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3533] DSN (delivery status notification)
In-Reply-To: <bug-3533-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3533-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3533-595-lMxSaAOdJu@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3533

--- Comment #9 from Olivier Brunel <jjk at jjacky.com> ---
Created attachment 1764
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1764&action=edit
Add Delivery Status Notification (DSN) support

Had a look at this recently, so here's a new patch. This is based on Alex
Fedorov work - thanks! - and basically just changes UI things.

Specifically, the account option moved to Compose, and was split into 3
checkboxes as suggested: Success, Failure, and Delay.

Those options only set a default, which can itself be overwritten by similar
options under folder properties, page Compose.
Either way, a new menu in Compose window will show the current options as well
as allow to set them on a per-message basis.

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From dave at howorth.org.uk  Mon Jul  3 20:40:31 2017
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2017 19:40:31 +0100
Subject: [Users] mailto links not on top
In-Reply-To: <20170629211352.62e05222@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20170629211352.62e05222@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20170703194031.77cc6af0@acer-suse.lan>

Nobody has any ideas? Or has encountered the symptoms?

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 21:13:52 +0100
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:
> When I click on a mailto link on a web page the compose page opens
> UNDER other windows. Sometimes I can't see it at all. This is very
> annoying and different to how the world used to be. But I don't know
> what has changed, so I'm asking here to see if anybody has any
> ideas.
> 
> My browser is Firefox 52.1.1
> My MUA is Claws Mail 3.13.2
> My OS is Leap 42.2
> My desktop is LXDE
> 
> All from the standard openSUSE repositories.


From mir at miras.org  Mon Jul  3 21:01:29 2017
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 21:01:29 +0200
Subject: [Users] mailto links not on top
In-Reply-To: <20170703194031.77cc6af0@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20170629211352.62e05222@acer-suse.lan>
 <20170703194031.77cc6af0@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <A60C6D1C-D48A-47BE-9AF3-59B3D188453A@miras.org>

It's a desktop setting which govern where new windows are opened.

On July 3, 2017 8:40:31 PM GMT+02:00, Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:
>Nobody has any ideas? Or has encountered the symptoms?
>
>On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 21:13:52 +0100
>Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:
>> When I click on a mailto link on a web page the compose page opens
>> UNDER other windows. Sometimes I can't see it at all. This is very
>> annoying and different to how the world used to be. But I don't know
>> what has changed, so I'm asking here to see if anybody has any
>> ideas.
>> 
>> My browser is Firefox 52.1.1
>> My MUA is Claws Mail 3.13.2
>> My OS is Leap 42.2
>> My desktop is LXDE
>> 
>> All from the standard openSUSE repositories.
>_______________________________________________
>Users mailing list
>Users at lists.claws-mail.org
>http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jul  3 21:54:22 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 19:54:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3348] Contact pictures not deleted when contact is
	deleted
In-Reply-To: <bug-3348-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3348-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3348-595-rErc2j1gZL@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3348

--- Comment #11 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
I've tested this again and seems it works now, so I'm pushing an improved
version of your patch :-)

The only explanation I can find is either I did a bad testing (most likely) or
that something affecting this was fixed at some point.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jul  3 23:59:41 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 21:59:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3348] Contact pictures not deleted when contact is
	deleted
In-Reply-To: <bug-3348-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3348-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3348-595-iCKe5TenUP@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3348

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #12 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2017-07-03 21:56:02.503542110 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2162e0bb2f9369356e65514bf78c02b83e3ff2f
Merge: 6aa51a1 066e76a
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Mon Jul 3 21:56:02 2017 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=066e76a2863a8468b8fd491e50396661b62174e6
Author: Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
Date:   Mon Jul 3 21:55:23 2017 +0200

    Fix bug #3348 ‘Contact pictures not deleted when contact is deleted’

    Based on original patch submitted by Charles Lehner (thanks!)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jul  4 14:17:58 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 12:17:58 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3844] New: Regression in 3.14: The acccount preference,
 'Move deleted mails to trash and expunge immediately' has been removed.
Message-ID: <bug-3844-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3844

            Bug ID: 3844
           Summary: Regression in 3.14: The acccount preference, 'Move
                    deleted mails to trash and expunge immediately' has
                    been removed.
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.14.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders/IMAP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: dfs at roaringpenguin.com

Hi,

Removal of the ability to work with the IMAP "deleted" flag as intended is a
regression.  Moving messages to the Trash folder is not what I want.

The reason is that if you accidentally delete a message, moving it to Trash is
lossy... it doesn't track the original folder.  Setting the Deleted flag is not
lossy; you can restore the message exactly to its original state by clearing
the flag.

Please revert this regression.

Regards,

Dianne.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jul  4 14:36:47 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 12:36:47 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3844] Regression in 3.14: The acccount preference,
 'Move deleted mails to trash and expunge immediately' has been
 removed.
In-Reply-To: <bug-3844-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3844-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3844-595-zI9JrC7zzK@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3844

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Uncheck "Execute immediately when moving or deleting messages" in preferences,
on Summaries page. You will get the desired behavior for both deleting and
moving to trash.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jul  4 15:01:33 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 13:01:33 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3844] Regression in 3.14: The acccount preference,
 'Move deleted mails to trash and expunge immediately' has been
 removed.
In-Reply-To: <bug-3844-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3844-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3844-595-lQKBaqWXdy@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3844

Dianne Skoll <dfs at roaringpenguin.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|RESOLVED                    |REOPENED
         Resolution|INVALID                     |---

--- Comment #2 from Dianne Skoll <dfs at roaringpenguin.com> ---
I would like to reopen this.  Your solution works halfway, but Ctrl-E to
expunge deleted messages no longer works and I could not find a way to do it
from the menus.

Am I missing something else?

Regards,

Dianne.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jul  4 15:04:28 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 13:04:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3844] Regression in 3.14: The acccount preference,
 'Move deleted mails to trash and expunge immediately' has been
 removed.
In-Reply-To: <bug-3844-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3844-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3844-595-qLru1NdEpb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3844

--- Comment #3 from Dianne Skoll <dfs at roaringpenguin.com> ---
Sorry, never mind.  I had customized my toolbar and the "Execute" button was
missing.

It would be nice to have a keyboard shortcut for "Execute" if there isn't one.

Regards,

Dianne.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jul  4 18:39:48 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 16:39:48 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3844] Regression in 3.14: The acccount preference,
 'Move deleted mails to trash and expunge immediately' has been
 removed.
In-Reply-To: <bug-3844-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3844-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3844-595-Uu9KAF5wCr@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3844

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|REOPENED                    |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #4 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> Sorry, never mind.  I had customized my toolbar and the "Execute" button was
> missing.
> 
> It would be nice to have a keyboard shortcut for "Execute" if there isn't
> one.

Already has one: see Tools/Execute menu option or the manual. You can also
customize it.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jul  5 13:35:01 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2017 11:35:01 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2552] in automatic checking,
 enable the use of different time intervals
In-Reply-To: <bug-2552-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2552-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2552-595-KRbHhA6gZG@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2552

--- Comment #44 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
(In reply to comment #43)
> I'm still of the opinion I made in comment #37 - it's far too convoluted.

Fully agreed. I think that any progress here should be based on the last patch
before the ridiculous multiplier was introduced - the patch in comment #9.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jul  5 20:52:56 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2017 18:52:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3836] Give PGP/MIME signatures a name of
 "signature.asc" instead of "noname"
In-Reply-To: <bug-3836-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3836-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3836-595-eyDxyWkJtJ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3836

--- Comment #11 from Scott Emmons <lscotte at gmail.com> ---
Thanks Olivier Brunel - that patch works great for me as well, and seems to do
exactly the minimal set of changes - making the attachment show up as
"signature.asc" instead of "noname" with no changes to the disposition.

I can't see how this would cause any issues for spam filtering, etc - it seems
to be what mutt, thunderbird+enigmail, etc do.

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From andrej at kacian.sk  Thu Jul  6 11:11:13 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 11:11:13 +0200
Subject: [Users] crash on Windows 8.1 caused by libcairo-2.dll
In-Reply-To: <20170702144753.0000640e@secarica.ro>
References: <20170613120005.0000068b@secarica.ro>
 <20170613140653.366cb6b9.andrej@kacian.sk>
 <20170613162417.00002368@secarica.ro>
 <20170620185504.087b330e@penny>
 <20170620234215.0000685a@secarica.ro>
 <20170620234659.07ecd906@penny>
 <20170621012808.00007f1f@secarica.ro>
 <20170702005018.6b942cfd@penny>
 <20170702122900.000035b9@secarica.ro>
 <20170702121657.73136c17@penny>
 <20170702144753.0000640e@secarica.ro>
Message-ID: <20170706111113.0a1d42d6@penny>

On Sun, 2 Jul 2017 14:47:53 +0300
Cristian Secară <liste at secarica.ro> wrote:

> În data de Sun, 2 Jul 2017 12:16:57 +0200, Andrej Kacian a scris:
> 
> > I would appreciate it if you could try to get a gdb backtrace with the
> > 32-bit build and the two provided debug files, perhaps the backtrace
> > will be something real then.  
> 
> Well, bad luck (so to say): I "installed" the 32bit version in
> Program Files (x86) (i.e. just unpacked there the package, no true
> install), run it, but this one worked well and didn't crash (or I was
> not able to crash it). Therefore, at least at first glance, it seems to
> be a 64bit-only trouble.

Oh well, I was hoping for a better backtrace, but no crash is also a
good outcome.

I have now uploaded the two non-stripped files to
http://claws-mail.org/win32/test/beta2-dlls-64bit/

Can you please try getting a gdb backtrace on 64-bit version with these?

> Other thing -- assuming I want to debug the 32bit version (just in
> case), I don't know where to get the 32bit gdb version, since the
> previously indicated place is a 64bit place only. I already have the
> MinGW package installed (done sometimes in the past), cannot remember
> which version, but it is not of much help either: running its gdb with
> Claws Mail 64bit says claws-mail.exe is not an executable (so it might
> be a 32bit MinGW), but running that gdb with Clasw Mail 32bit nothing
> happens, i.e. it does not launch anything. Perhaps a different syntax is
> required ?

The 32-bit gdb should be there as well, in files prefixed with "i686".

> > After one such crash, could you look in file claws-win32.log in your
> > TMPDIR, to see if there are any failed assertion warnings? There could
> > be something relevant there.  
> 
> Nothing useful, I suppose: the log is almost empty, such as
> C:\Users\secarica\AppData\Roaming\Claws-mail\clawsrc:
> or the same but added the last (?) selected folder before crash, such as
> C:\Users\secarica\AppData\Roaming\Claws-mail\clawsrc: selecting folder
> '#mh/liste/inbox\claws'

Ok. it was a long shot anyway - I found some older bugreport about
a similar crash where another symptom was certain failed assertion
warnings from pango, and wanted to rule it out.

> > [...] this bug is really bugging me - especially when I can not
> > reproduce it myself. :)  
> 
> Probably Windows 8+etc. is required ? This problem never occurred in
> Windows 7 (also 64bit, same hardware system).

That could very well be, and in that case, "tough luck" for me, I'm not
likely to have access to a Windows 8 or newer system anytime soon.
Although I know that there was at least one user (Gerard) who also has
crashes seemingly in libcairo DLL when viewing certain HTML messages. I
don't know if it is the same bug, or another one...

Regards,
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From andrej at kacian.sk  Thu Jul  6 11:23:31 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 11:23:31 +0200
Subject: [Users] crash on Windows 8.1 caused by libcairo-2.dll
In-Reply-To: <20170702223453.000032f0@secarica.ro>
References: <20170613120005.0000068b@secarica.ro>
 <20170613140653.366cb6b9.andrej@kacian.sk>
 <20170613162417.00002368@secarica.ro>
 <20170620185504.087b330e@penny>
 <20170620234215.0000685a@secarica.ro>
 <20170620234659.07ecd906@penny>
 <20170621012808.00007f1f@secarica.ro>
 <20170702005018.6b942cfd@penny>
 <20170702122900.000035b9@secarica.ro>
 <20170702121657.73136c17@penny>
 <20170702144753.0000640e@secarica.ro>
 <20170702223453.000032f0@secarica.ro>
Message-ID: <20170706112331.70ec7464@penny>

On Sun, 2 Jul 2017 22:35:04 +0300
Cristian Secară <liste at secarica.ro> wrote:

> În data de Sun, 2 Jul 2017 14:47:53 +0300, Cristian Secară a scris:
> 
> > or the same but added the last (?) selected folder before crash, such
> > as C:\Users\secarica\AppData\Roaming\Claws-mail\clawsrc: selecting folder '#mh/liste/inbox\claws'  
> 
> Just curious (I observed this some time ago): Claws Mail code (or GTK+
> code) knows how to read correctly a path with either / or \ ?

Not really, it's just certain informative-only message strings using
OS-specific directory separators even in places where they shouldn't
(claws-mail internal paths like above). I fixed a lot of these in the
past, but probably not everything, as we see here. :)

They're harmless, though.

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From jerry at seibercom.net  Thu Jul  6 13:13:22 2017
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 07:13:22 -0400
Subject: [Users] crash on Windows 8.1 caused by libcairo-2.dll
In-Reply-To: <20170706111113.0a1d42d6@penny>
References: <20170613120005.0000068b@secarica.ro>
 <20170613140653.366cb6b9.andrej@kacian.sk>
 <20170613162417.00002368@secarica.ro>
 <20170620185504.087b330e@penny>
 <20170620234215.0000685a@secarica.ro>
 <20170620234659.07ecd906@penny>
 <20170621012808.00007f1f@secarica.ro>
 <20170702005018.6b942cfd@penny>
 <20170702122900.000035b9@secarica.ro>
 <20170702121657.73136c17@penny>
 <20170702144753.0000640e@secarica.ro>
 <20170706111113.0a1d42d6@penny>
Message-ID: <20170706071322.000037bd@seibercom.net>

On Thu, 6 Jul 2017 11:11:13 +0200, Andrej Kacian stated:

>That could very well be, and in that case, "tough luck" for me, I'm not
>likely to have access to a Windows 8 or newer system anytime soon.
>Although I know that there was at least one user (Gerard) who also has
>crashes seemingly in libcairo DLL when viewing certain HTML messages. I
>don't know if it is the same bug, or another one...

Hello Andrej,

I am going to install the 64-bit beta you listed later today and see if
it makes any difference.

BTW, couldn't you just run Windows 10-64bit in a virtual environment?

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From dave at howorth.org.uk  Thu Jul  6 14:28:41 2017
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 13:28:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] mailto links not on top
In-Reply-To: <A60C6D1C-D48A-47BE-9AF3-59B3D188453A@miras.org>
References: <20170629211352.62e05222@acer-suse.lan>
 <20170703194031.77cc6af0@acer-suse.lan>
 <A60C6D1C-D48A-47BE-9AF3-59B3D188453A@miras.org>
Message-ID: <20170706132841.2b501f59@acer-suse.lan>

On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 21:01:29 +0200
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:
> It's a desktop setting which govern where new windows are opened.

Thanks. I've been unable to discover such a setting. Any chance you
could give me any hints? Also whilst the compose window opens under
other windows when I click a link in Firefox, it opens on top if I use
an xdg-email command line to open a compose window. So this seems to be
more specific than affecting the entire desktop.

> On July 3, 2017 8:40:31 PM GMT+02:00, Dave Howorth
> <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:
> >Nobody has any ideas? Or has encountered the symptoms?
> >
> >On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 21:13:52 +0100
> >Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:  
> >> When I click on a mailto link on a web page the compose page opens
> >> UNDER other windows. Sometimes I can't see it at all. This is very
> >> annoying and different to how the world used to be. But I don't
> >> know what has changed, so I'm asking here to see if anybody has any
> >> ideas.
> >> 
> >> My browser is Firefox 52.1.1
> >> My MUA is Claws Mail 3.13.2
> >> My OS is Leap 42.2
> >> My desktop is LXDE
> >> 
> >> All from the standard openSUSE repositories.  
> >_______________________________________________
> >Users mailing list
> >Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> >http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users  
> 



From victoria.a.stuart at gmail.com  Fri Jul  7 04:06:21 2017
From: victoria.a.stuart at gmail.com (Victoria Stuart (gmail))
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 19:06:21 -0700
Subject: [Users] Poorly-wrapped text when viewed in external editor
Message-ID: <20170706190425.78ab7f08@VictoriasJourney.com>

A quick question: my messages flow nicely (the width of preview pane) in Claws, but some of them -- viewed in an external text editor (Geany; gedit) -- are wrapped, poorly, with the wrapped lines terminating with an equals sign. E.g.

OK - CLAWS:

The neurodegeneration that occurs in Parkinson's disease is a result of stress on the endoplasmic reticulum in the cell rather than failure of the mitochondria as previously thought, according to a study in fruit flies. It was found that the death of neurons associated with the disease was prevented when chemicals that block the effects of endoplasmic reticulum stress were used. Some inherited forms of early-onset Parkinson's disease have typically been blamed on poorly functioning mitochondria, the powerhouses of cells. Without reliable sources of energy, neurons wither and die. This may not be the complete picture of what is happening within cells affected by Parkinson's. Researchers from the MRC Toxicology Unit at the University of Leicester used a common fruit fly to investigate this further; fruit flies were used because they provide a good genetic model for humans.

NOT OK - GEANY [SAME IN GEDIT; cat (TERMINAL)]:

The neurodegeneration that occurs in Parkinson's disease is a result of str=
ess on the endoplasmic reticulum in the cell rather than failure of the mit=
ochondria as previously thought, according to a study in fruit flies. It wa=
s found that the death of neurons associated with the disease was prevented=
 when chemicals that block the effects of endoplasmic reticulum stress were=
 used. Some inherited forms of early-onset Parkinson's disease have typical=
ly been blamed on poorly functioning mitochondria, the powerhouses of cells=
. Without reliable sources of energy, neurons wither and die. This may not =
be the complete picture of what is happening within cells affected by Parki=
nson's. Researchers from the MRC Toxicology Unit at the University of Leice=
ster used a common fruit fly to investigate this further; fruit flies were =
used because they provide a good genetic model for humans.

Other messages look OK, both in Claws and in the terminal and text editors.

Any ideas on what's causing this, and how I can obtain the properly-formatted text outside of Claws?

Specifically, is there some Claws setting that I can tweak?  I don't want to have to reformat these messages (1000's) with command-line tools (awk; sed; ...), if I don't have too.

Thanks!

==============================================================================


From lists at larsko.org  Fri Jul  7 06:14:15 2017
From: lists at larsko.org (Lars Kotthoff)
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 21:14:15 -0700
Subject: [Users] Address filtering for reply-all
Message-ID: <20170706211415.5174668a@sakura>

Hi,

 my organization has various email addresses set up for me (full name, short
form) which are all aliased to one account. So on this account I get email with
different To: addresses. When I reply all, it copies the address that is aliased
into a To: header, i.e. I'll send the mail to myself as well. Is there any way
to filter this?

I've had a look at the filter and processing rules, but they don't seem to be
able to modify the email.

Thanks,

Lars


From andrej at kacian.sk  Fri Jul  7 09:50:48 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 09:50:48 +0200
Subject: [Users] Poorly-wrapped text when viewed in external editor
In-Reply-To: <20170706190425.78ab7f08@VictoriasJourney.com>
References: <20170706190425.78ab7f08@VictoriasJourney.com>
Message-ID: <20170707095048.32ad318c@penny>

On Thu, 6 Jul 2017 19:06:21 -0700
"Victoria Stuart (gmail)" <victoria.a.stuart at gmail.com> wrote:

> A quick question: my messages flow nicely (the width of preview pane) in Claws, but some of them -- viewed in an external text editor (Geany; gedit) -- are wrapped, poorly, with the wrapped lines terminating with an equals sign. E.g.

That is probably the "flowed" format the messages are using. This
article explains how it works nicely:
https://cpbotha.net/2016/09/27/thunderbird-support-of-rfc-3676-formatflowed-is-half-broken/

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From andrej at kacian.sk  Fri Jul  7 12:16:44 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 12:16:44 +0200
Subject: [Users] crash on Windows 8.1 caused by libcairo-2.dll
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On Thu, 6 Jul 2017 07:13:22 -0400
Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Jul 2017 11:11:13 +0200, Andrej Kacian stated:
> 
> >That could very well be, and in that case, "tough luck" for me, I'm not
> >likely to have access to a Windows 8 or newer system anytime soon.
> >Although I know that there was at least one user (Gerard) who also has
> >crashes seemingly in libcairo DLL when viewing certain HTML messages. I
> >don't know if it is the same bug, or another one...  
> 
> Hello Andrej,
> 
> I am going to install the 64-bit beta you listed later today and see if
> it makes any difference.

Thanks! If nothing else, it should fix the too-small printing issue...

> BTW, couldn't you just run Windows 10-64bit in a virtual environment?

I do not know of any legal way to obtain that OS, so, no. :)

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From dustbiz at gmail.com  Fri Jul  7 14:36:19 2017
From: dustbiz at gmail.com (Dustin Miller)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 18:36:19 +0600
Subject: [Users] mailto links not on top
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1499421602.1589.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
References: <mailman.3.1499421602.1589.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
Message-ID: <20170707183619.53803c52@dpc>

Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 13:28:41 +0100
From: Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk>
To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Subject: Re: [Users] mailto links not on top

On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 21:01:29 +0200
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:
> It's a desktop setting which govern where new windows are opened.  

Thanks. I've been unable to discover such a setting. Any chance you
could give me any hints? Also whilst the compose window opens under
other windows when I click a link in Firefox, it opens on top if I use
an xdg-email command line to open a compose window. So this seems to be
more specific than affecting the entire desktop.

DM: Hi Dave! I'm about 90% sure Michael's right on this. I ran into an
issue related to this on Lubuntu 14.04 (shares the LXDE DE w/ you)
where the 'Select folder' window in Claws (eg. for moving a message or
going to another folder) would 'ignore' the first character you typed
when doing a 'search' for a folder. The best I could figure out is that
the first key you hit somehow brought the window into the focus state
that would then allow you to type and have your text come up in the
search field. And I didn't have this problem w/ the same version of
Claws in Ubuntu 14.04 using the Gnome Flashback DE. If I remember
right, there was another user on this list awhile back that had this
same Claws issue but perhaps w/ a different distro/DE, and I think he
ended up doing some digging around and figured out he had to uninstall
some sort of package and/or maybe change some config file somewhere.

DM: I'm also running Lubuntu 16.04 on a couple boxes and sometimes (but
not all the time) when I use Ctrl-Alt-T to open a terminal window, it
will open behind other windows. After the Lubuntu 14.04 problem
mentioned above, I looked through all the settings I could find and
none of them helped with this. So I'm guessing your answer will lie
somewhere in a bit of a deep dive into LXDE's docs and inner workings
to figure out what files you may need to edit or what you may need to
install/uninstall or tweak to get your desired behavior. So far I
haven't taken the time to do this, so can't help you on details. It's
possible this could be an LXDE bug, but it might be a 'feature'. :)
Perhaps you could save some time by posting a question on whatever
lists, forums, etc. LXDE has for their software since it's likely other
users may have experienced this same thing. HTH, Dustin

> On July 3, 2017 8:40:31 PM GMT+02:00, Dave Howorth
> <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:  
> >Nobody has any ideas? Or has encountered the symptoms?
> >
> >On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 21:13:52 +0100
> >Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:    
> >> When I click on a mailto link on a web page the compose page opens
> >> UNDER other windows. Sometimes I can't see it at all. This is very
> >> annoying and different to how the world used to be. But I don't
> >> know what has changed, so I'm asking here to see if anybody has any
> >> ideas.
> >> 
> >> My browser is Firefox 52.1.1
> >> My MUA is Claws Mail 3.13.2
> >> My OS is Leap 42.2
> >> My desktop is LXDE
> >> 
> >> All from the standard openSUSE repositories. 


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jul  7 15:19:07 2017
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 14:19:07 +0100
Subject: [Users] mailto links not on top
In-Reply-To: <20170707183619.53803c52@dpc>
References: <mailman.3.1499421602.1589.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
 <20170707183619.53803c52@dpc>
Message-ID: <20170707141907.1ac77819@kujata>

On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 18:36:19 +0600
Dustin Miller <dustbiz at gmail.com> wrote: 

> Thanks. I've been unable to discover such a setting. Any chance you
> could give me any hints? Also whilst the compose window opens under
> other windows when I click a link in Firefox, it opens on top if I
> use an xdg-email command line to open a compose window. So this
> seems to be more specific than affecting the entire desktop.

Why not use 'xdg-email' to handle mailto links in firefox? (Maybe you
are, you haven't said how you've configured firefox. Whatever you've
done, it's pretty much off-topic here. :)

with regards

Paul


From jimmy.patch at gmail.com  Fri Jul  7 17:39:09 2017
From: jimmy.patch at gmail.com (Jim Pachowski)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 21:09:09 +0530
Subject: [Users] Poorly-wrapped text when viewed in external editor
In-Reply-To: <20170707095048.32ad318c@penny>
References: <20170706190425.78ab7f08@VictoriasJourney.com>
 <20170707095048.32ad318c@penny>
Message-ID: <CAJJJNQ+rsD0jtB2AUpmmh30uXZz-VukbRx-q4SPnCjjVf6D2Vg@mail.gmail.com>

> > some of them -- viewed in an external text editor
> > (Geany; gedit) -- are wrapped, poorly, with the wrapped
> > lines terminating with an equals sign. E.g.
>
> That is probably the "flowed" format the messages are using. This
> article explains how it works nicely:
> https://cpbotha.net/2016/09/27/thunderbird-support-of-rfc-3676-formatflowed-is-half-broken/

Actually it sounds the external editor is picking up quoted printable
encoding while the email display is taking that encoding into account.


From victoria.a.stuart at gmail.com  Fri Jul  7 17:46:28 2017
From: victoria.a.stuart at gmail.com (Victoria Stuart (gmail))
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 08:46:28 -0700
Subject: [Users] Poorly-wrapped text when viewed in external editor
In-Reply-To: <CAJJJNQ+rsD0jtB2AUpmmh30uXZz-VukbRx-q4SPnCjjVf6D2Vg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20170706190425.78ab7f08@VictoriasJourney.com>
 <20170707095048.32ad318c@penny>
 <CAJJJNQ+rsD0jtB2AUpmmh30uXZz-VukbRx-q4SPnCjjVf6D2Vg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20170707084628.5912584c@gmail.com>

@Jim: I think that is correct: when I "cat" those messages in a terminal, I get the same thing (affected messages only; wrapped with an equals sign at the end).

Any idea on how I can turn this off (if possible)?  Everything in Claws looks great; but I want to use those (archived) messages for some NLP work.

I can remove them with a small bash script (sed; ...) -- will post that solution later; want to test it more, first -- but looking for an easy fix.  ;-)

@Andrej: Thanks also for your reply; appreciated!  :-)

> Actually it sounds the external editor is picking up quoted printable
>encoding while the email display is taking that encoding into account.


From jerry at seibercom.net  Fri Jul  7 18:16:15 2017
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 12:16:15 -0400
Subject: [Users] claws-mail-3.15.0-2beta3-64bit.exe
Message-ID: <20170707121615.0000520e@seibercom.net>

Andrej, I have installed the new version on a Windows 10 PRO /64-bit
machine, version 1703 and so far so good.

1) The problem with printing HTML emails seems to have been resolved

2) The program has not crashed yet (keeping fingers crossed)

3) Unfortunately, the program does seem rather sluggish when compared
to the previous version.

4) Under "ABOUT" there is no new version number. All that is listed is:
Claws Mail version 3.15.0

5) System info is shown as:
System Information
GTK+ 2.24.31 / GLib 2.49.2
Locale: en_US (charset: ISO-8859-1)
Operating System: Win32

Shouldn't the operating system be listed as Win64?

I think that at least bumping the version number would aid a user if
they were to forget what version they had installed. You have had
several in the past few months.

I will let you know if anything new crops up. Thanks for all your hard
work.

-- 
Jerry


From jerry at seibercom.net  Fri Jul  7 19:31:17 2017
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 13:31:17 -0400
Subject: [Users] Warning messages with claws-mail-3.15.0-2beta3-64bit.exe
Message-ID: <20170707133117.00000bd1@seibercom.net>

Andrej, I started claws-mail under the debugger. I am still receiving a
lot of "warning" messages when it starts up. This is the start of the
log:

C:\Users\Gerard>C:\Users\Gerard\Downloads\gdb.exe  "C:\Program Files\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe"
This binary was built by Equation Solution <http://www.Equation.com>.
GNU gdb (GDB) 7.12
Copyright (C) 2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  Type "show copying"
and "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "x86_64-w64-mingw32".
Type "show configuration" for configuration details.
For bug reporting instructions, please see:
<http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/bugs/>.
Find the GDB manual and other documentation resources online at:
<http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/documentation/>.
For help, type "help".
Type "apropos word" to search for commands related to "word"...
Reading symbols from C:\Program Files\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(gdb) run "--debug"
Starting program: C:\Program Files\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe "--debug"
[New Thread 8512.0x2afc]
[New Thread 8512.0x175c]
[New Thread 8512.0x2fd4]
[New Thread 8512.0x44d8]
warning: Can not parse XML library list; XML support was disabled at compile time
[New Thread 8512.0x6ac]
[New Thread 8512.0x2a18]
[New Thread 8512.0x252c]
[New Thread 8512.0x2dc]
[New Thread 8512.0x4394]
[New Thread 8512.0x32cc]
warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]:
warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 000001D256960000, 000001D25B291940 )

Thread 1 received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap.
0x00007ffe2bb42477 in ?? ()
(gdb) continue
Continuing.
[New Thread 8512.0x2f40]
warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]:
warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 000001D256960000, 000001D25B291940 )

Thread 1 received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap.
0x00007ffe2bb42477 in ?? ()
(gdb) continue
Continuing.
warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]:
warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 000001D256960000, 000001D25B291A70 )

Thread 1 received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap.
0x00007ffe2bb42477 in ?? ()
(gdb) continue
Continuing.
warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]:
warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 000001D256960000, 000001D25B291A70 )

Thread 1 received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap.
0x00007ffe2bb42477 in ?? ()
(gdb) continue
Continuing.
[New Thread 8512.0x2b98]
[New Thread 8512.0x29d4]
[Thread 8512.0x29d4 exited with code 0]
[New Thread 8512.0x4658]
[Thread 8512.0x4658 exited with code 0]
[New Thread 8512.0x1d68]
[Thread 8512.0x1d68 exited with code 0]
[New Thread 8512.0x46ec]
[Thread 8512.0x46ec exited with code 0]
[New Thread 8512.0x748]
[Thread 8512.0x748 exited with code 0]
[Thread 8512.0x175c exited with code 0]
[Thread 8512.0x2fd4 exited with code 0]
[Thread 8512.0x44d8 exited with code 0]
[New Thread 8512.0x226c]
[New Thread 8512.0x938]
[New Thread 8512.0x1500]
[New Thread 8512.0x2514]
[New Thread 8512.0x1d3c]
[New Thread 8512.0x38c4]
[New Thread 8512.0x7d8]
[New Thread 8512.0x337c]
[New Thread 8512.0x44d0]
[New Thread 8512.0x168]
[New Thread 8512.0x2ec4]
[New Thread 8512.0x264c]
[Thread 8512.0x168 exited with code 0]
[New Thread 8512.0x2a70]
[Thread 8512.0x2ec4 exited with code 0]
[New Thread 8512.0x2b70]
[Thread 8512.0x2b70 exited with code 3990860784]
[New Thread 8512.0x4100]
[Thread 8512.0x4100 exited with code 3990860784]
[Thread 8512.0x2a70 exited with code 0]


I just thought that you might be interested.

-- 
Jerry


From victoria.a.stuart at gmail.com  Fri Jul  7 20:19:20 2017
From: victoria.a.stuart at gmail.com (Victoria Stuart (gmail))
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 11:19:20 -0700
Subject: [Users] Poorly-wrapped text when viewed in external editor
In-Reply-To: <20170707084628.5912584c@gmail.com>
References: <20170706190425.78ab7f08@VictoriasJourney.com>
 <20170707095048.32ad318c@penny>
 <CAJJJNQ+rsD0jtB2AUpmmh30uXZz-VukbRx-q4SPnCjjVf6D2Vg@mail.gmail.com>
 <20170707084628.5912584c@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20170707111920.6c2fac23@gmail.com>

OK: here is my solution:

    find ./1 -type f -iname '[0-9]' -exec sed -i -e ':a;N;$!ba;s/=\n//g' {} \;

executed in a bash script (or simply on the command line).

Details here (GitHub gist):

    https://gist.github.com/victoriastuart/2e1094ecacaf6e25b3347c2dcd597c66

Claws mail messages are saved in numeric-only filenames, so my plan is to copy the Claws mail directories I want to work with to another location, and run that script over the contents (copied folders), thus preserving the integrity of my Claws Mail directories but allowing me to preprocess ("clean) those affected messages, prior to further work with them.

Best, V.  :-)


From mir at miras.org  Fri Jul  7 21:00:02 2017
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 21:00:02 +0200
Subject: [Users] mailto links not on top
In-Reply-To: <20170706132841.2b501f59@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20170629211352.62e05222@acer-suse.lan>
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On Thu, 6 Jul 2017 13:28:41 +0100
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 21:01:29 +0200
> Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:
> > It's a desktop setting which govern where new windows are opened.  
> 
> Thanks. I've been unable to discover such a setting. Any chance you
> could give me any hints? Also whilst the compose window opens under
> other windows when I click a link in Firefox, it opens on top if I use
> an xdg-email command line to open a compose window. So this seems to be
> more specific than affecting the entire desktop.
> 
I don't know for LXDE but for XFCE the place to do this is in the
all-settings application. See screenshots attached.


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From rikona at sonic.net  Fri Jul  7 23:40:18 2017
From: rikona at sonic.net (rikona)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 14:40:18 -0700
Subject: [Users] Poorly-wrapped text when viewed in external editor
In-Reply-To: <20170707084628.5912584c@gmail.com>
References: <20170706190425.78ab7f08@VictoriasJourney.com>
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Message-ID: <20170707144018.4bb4d8dc@chewie>

On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 08:46:28 -0700
"Victoria Stuart (gmail)" <victoria.a.stuart at gmail.com> wrote:

> @Jim: I think that is correct: when I "cat" those messages in a
> terminal, I get the same thing (affected messages only; wrapped with
> an equals sign at the end).

I also 'archive' direct copies of CM files and thought I'd better take a
look. I see the same thing, but only for SOME, but not all, non-text
parts of emails [HTML, etc]. The text part does not seem to have =
signs at the end of lines. However, this seriously breaks my archives.

It looks as though CM inserts the = signs in the file - is this true?

> Any idea on how I can turn this off (if possible)?  

That would be necessary for my archiving - I have several hundred dirs,
each with many files. Likely too hard to fix with your script. I can
accept long lines if that is the alternative. 

> Everything in > Claws looks great; but I want to use those (archived) messages for
> some NLP work.

For me also - the = sign breaks the archives.

> I can remove them with a small bash script (sed; ...) -- will post
> that solution later; want to test it more, first -- but looking for
> an easy fix.  ;-)

I saw that, nice, but with many hundreds of dirs, this is not
practical for me.

Any way to keep CM from doing this, if CM is putting in the = signs?

CM can also archive in a few formats, but these are not readable by my
comp-wide search pgm, which I use many times a day, so those formats
can't be used. And, even if one of those format is used, would the =
sign still be there if the format is unpacked?

> 
> @Andrej: Thanks also for your reply; appreciated!  :-)
> 
> > Actually it sounds the external editor is picking up quoted
> > printable
> >encoding while the email display is taking that encoding into
> >account.  
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users



From dave at howorth.org.uk  Sat Jul  8 01:07:27 2017
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 00:07:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] mailto links not on top
In-Reply-To: <20170707141907.1ac77819@kujata>
References: <mailman.3.1499421602.1589.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
 <20170707183619.53803c52@dpc> <20170707141907.1ac77819@kujata>
Message-ID: <20170708000727.01e09995@acer-suse.lan>

On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 14:19:07 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 18:36:19 +0600
> Dustin Miller <dustbiz at gmail.com> wrote: 

Actually, he didn't. I did.

> > Thanks. I've been unable to discover such a setting. Any chance you
> > could give me any hints? Also whilst the compose window opens under
> > other windows when I click a link in Firefox, it opens on top if I
> > use an xdg-email command line to open a compose window. So this
> > seems to be more specific than affecting the entire desktop.  
> 
> Why not use 'xdg-email' to handle mailto links in firefox? (Maybe you
> are, you haven't said how you've configured firefox. Whatever you've
> done, it's pretty much off-topic here. :)

I haven't configured Firefox at all in this regard, so far as I
remember. In particular, it all used to work as I would expect with the
compose window appearing on top, but now it doesn't but with no changes
on my part so far as I know. So I'm trying to discover why the
behaviour has changed.

So as far as I know, it isn't anything I've done at all but instead is
something that some developer has done somewhere. My problem is which
developer?

As to why I haven't configured firefox to use xdg-email as the mailto
program, the answer is that I haven't configured firefox to use any
program. It's using whatever is the default, which in my case is claws.
And I don't really want to have to use a specific configuration for
something that should work out of the box.

As to why I'm asking here, it's because claws is one piece of the
puzzle. I started by asking on the opensuse list but got no useful
response, so I thought I'd try here. It seems to me there are often
well-informed people on this list.

Cheers, Dave

> with regards
> 
> Paul


From dave at howorth.org.uk  Sat Jul  8 01:20:00 2017
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 00:20:00 +0100
Subject: [Users] mailto links not on top
In-Reply-To: <20170707210002.20ee6d23@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20170629211352.62e05222@acer-suse.lan>
 <20170703194031.77cc6af0@acer-suse.lan>
 <A60C6D1C-D48A-47BE-9AF3-59B3D188453A@miras.org>
 <20170706132841.2b501f59@acer-suse.lan>
 <20170707210002.20ee6d23@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20170708002000.23063847@acer-suse.lan>

On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 21:00:02 +0200
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Jul 2017 13:28:41 +0100
> Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 21:01:29 +0200
> > Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:  
> > > It's a desktop setting which govern where new windows are
> > > opened.    
> > 
> > Thanks. I've been unable to discover such a setting. Any chance you
> > could give me any hints? Also whilst the compose window opens under
> > other windows when I click a link in Firefox, it opens on top if I
> > use an xdg-email command line to open a compose window. So this
> > seems to be more specific than affecting the entire desktop.
> >   
> I don't know for LXDE but for XFCE the place to do this is in the
> all-settings application. See screenshots attached.

Thanks. I'm afraid I've no idea what the LXDE equivalent to your
all-settings application is. The window manager is openbox but it's
configuration manager doesn't have very similar options.

I'm not sure which of the settings in your example you think might be
relevant. I use focus follows mouse for example, but I don't think that
should be relevant.

Cheers, Dave


From mir at miras.org  Sat Jul  8 01:45:05 2017
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 01:45:05 +0200
Subject: [Users] mailto links not on top
In-Reply-To: <20170708002000.23063847@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20170629211352.62e05222@acer-suse.lan>
 <20170703194031.77cc6af0@acer-suse.lan>
 <A60C6D1C-D48A-47BE-9AF3-59B3D188453A@miras.org>
 <20170706132841.2b501f59@acer-suse.lan>
 <20170707210002.20ee6d23@sleipner.datanom.net>
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Message-ID: <20170708014505.415a03e0@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 00:20:00 +0100
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:

> 
> Thanks. I'm afraid I've no idea what the LXDE equivalent to your
> all-settings application is. The window manager is openbox but it's
> configuration manager doesn't have very similar options.
> 
Maybe this:
"If your distro is using openbox as a window manager, open the Openbox
Configuration Manager. On the "Windows" tab, the very first entry is "Focusing Windows". Make sure there is a check in the box. That will, as it says, "Focus new windows when they appear." Some distros don't have this checked by default." (https://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?t=37016)

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From avrunin at math.umass.edu  Sat Jul  8 01:55:20 2017
From: avrunin at math.umass.edu (George Avrunin)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 19:55:20 -0400
Subject: [Users] Poorly-wrapped text when viewed in external editor
In-Reply-To: <20170707144018.4bb4d8dc@chewie>
References: <20170706190425.78ab7f08@VictoriasJourney.com>
 <20170707095048.32ad318c@penny>
 <CAJJJNQ+rsD0jtB2AUpmmh30uXZz-VukbRx-q4SPnCjjVf6D2Vg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20170707195520.54c62823@g.localdomain>

On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 14:40:18 -0700, rikona wrote:

> It looks as though CM inserts the = signs in the file - is this true?

I think Jim Pachowski's comment earlier in the thread is the most likely
explanation: the = characters are from quoted-printable encoding.  This
uses the = as an escape to encode 8-bit data using printable ASCII
characters, and also makes all the lines no more than 76 characters long
(before encoding), as in the example in Victoria Stuart's message.  (See
RFC 2045, which replaced RFC 1521 on this.)  

Can you look at the actual message source for one of these messages and see
if there's a header saying "Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable"?  

  George




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From geek at uniserve.com  Sat Jul  8 03:11:17 2017
From: geek at uniserve.com (Dave Stevens)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 18:11:17 -0700
Subject: [Users] cntl-t for threaded view?
Message-ID: <20170707181117.6eec370e@user-Satellite-A100>

I had a keyboard shortcut on claws 3.0.9 so I could use cntl-t to
switch between threaded and non-threaded views. That's not the default
on 3.13.2 that I'm using. Can I get that back?

Dave


-- 
In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the
usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are
not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to
simplistic questions.

----- Ursula Le Guin


From rikona at sonic.net  Sat Jul  8 05:13:52 2017
From: rikona at sonic.net (rikona)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 20:13:52 -0700
Subject: [Users] Poorly-wrapped text when viewed in external editor
In-Reply-To: <20170707195520.54c62823@g.localdomain>
References: <20170706190425.78ab7f08@VictoriasJourney.com>
 <20170707095048.32ad318c@penny>
 <CAJJJNQ+rsD0jtB2AUpmmh30uXZz-VukbRx-q4SPnCjjVf6D2Vg@mail.gmail.com>
 <20170707084628.5912584c@gmail.com>
 <20170707144018.4bb4d8dc@chewie>
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Message-ID: <20170707201352.72e893a5@chewie>

On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 19:55:20 -0400
George Avrunin <avrunin at math.umass.edu> wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 14:40:18 -0700, rikona wrote:
> 
> > It looks as though CM inserts the = signs in the file - is this
> > true?  
> 
> I think Jim Pachowski's comment earlier in the thread is the most
> likely explanation: the = characters are from quoted-printable
> encoding.  This uses the = as an escape to encode 8-bit data using
> printable ASCII characters, and also makes all the lines no more than
> 76 characters long 

Yes - all the ones I looked at are like that.

> Can you look at the actual message source for one of these messages
> and see if there's a header saying "Content-Transfer-Encoding:
> quoted-printable"?  

Yes - all the = signs do have that header. The HTML that does not
have = has a different header.

SO, how can I view the non-CM file archive with the HTML as what one
would expect for HTML? What tool displays that section as it 'should'
look? Several I tried don't work, and some crash!



From mail at VictoriasJourney.com  Sat Jul  8 05:17:21 2017
From: mail at VictoriasJourney.com (Victoria Stuart (VictoriasJourney.com))
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 20:17:21 -0700
Subject: [Users] Poorly-wrapped text when viewed in external editor
In-Reply-To: <20170707111920.6c2fac23@gmail.com>
References: <20170706190425.78ab7f08@VictoriasJourney.com>
 <20170707095048.32ad318c@penny>
 <CAJJJNQ+rsD0jtB2AUpmmh30uXZz-VukbRx-q4SPnCjjVf6D2Vg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20170707201721.1a0b0704@VictoriasJourney.com>

Yes, in my case there is ...

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HEADER (part) FROM AFFECTED MESSAGE (printed-quotable; '='-terminated lines):

    ...
    Mime-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
     boundary="--==_mimepart_595ed001a35d6_bad43fbaf62cb98881253";
     charset=utf-8
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All
    Auto-Submitted: auto-generated
    X-Mailer: Zendesk Mailer
    ...
    Content-Type: text/plain;
     charset=utf-8
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HEADER (part) FROM UNAFFECTED MESSAGE ('normally'-wrapped lines):

    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Can you look at the actual message source for one of these messages and see
> if there's a header saying "Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable"?
> George


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jul  8 09:38:08 2017
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 08:38:08 +0100
Subject: [Users] cntl-t for threaded view?
In-Reply-To: <20170707181117.6eec370e@user-Satellite-A100>
References: <20170707181117.6eec370e@user-Satellite-A100>
Message-ID: <20170708083808.290f3381@kujata>

On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 18:11:17 -0700
Dave Stevens <geek at uniserve.com> wrote: 

> I had a keyboard shortcut on claws 3.0.9 so I could use cntl-t to
> switch between threaded and non-threaded views. That's not the
> default on 3.13.2 that I'm using. Can I get that back?

http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Interface#How_can_I_change_the_key-bindings_.28hot-keys.29_in_Claws_Mail.3F

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jul  8 09:39:35 2017
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 08:39:35 +0100
Subject: [Users] cntl-t for threaded view?
In-Reply-To: <20170707181117.6eec370e@user-Satellite-A100>
References: <20170707181117.6eec370e@user-Satellite-A100>
Message-ID: <20170708083935.49733e00@kujata>

On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 18:11:17 -0700
Dave Stevens <geek at uniserve.com> wrote: 

> I had a keyboard shortcut on claws 3.0.9 so I could use cntl-t to
> switch between threaded and non-threaded views. That's not the
> default on 3.13.2 that I'm using.

BTW, the defaults only apply to new installations. Upgrading will not
change any of your configured key bindings.

with regards

Paul


From liste at secarica.ro  Sat Jul  8 14:07:40 2017
From: liste at secarica.ro (Cristian =?UTF-8?Q?Secar=C4=83?=)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 15:07:40 +0300
Subject: [Users] saving first to drafts does not retain the per-folder
 selected dictionary
Message-ID: <20170708150740.00004d6a@secarica.ro>

Suppose I have a particular folder (like the one for Claws Mail mailing
list, for example), customized to default to other than
application-default dictionary (in this case, customized for en_US).

Starting to compose a fresh message (and send directly) is ok, but if I
happen to first save the message in drafts folder and then later
continue editing, the preference for customized dictionary is lost and
reselecting the custom dictionary is required in order to hide the
"mispelled" underlining.

Would like this to be fixed in some future version...

Thank you,
Cristi

-- 
Cristian Secară
http://www.secărică.ro


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Sat Jul  8 14:36:21 2017
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 14:36:21 +0200
Subject: [Users] saving first to drafts does not retain the per-folder
 selected dictionary
In-Reply-To: <20170708150740.00004d6a@secarica.ro>
References: <20170708150740.00004d6a@secarica.ro>
Message-ID: <20170708143621.5db0c4e0@utnubu>

Hi,

in some cases a workaround could be:

1.

Select the draft folder > Create new folder... [NewFolder]
and edit the dictionaries for this folder

2.

Configuration > Edit Accounts... > Double click an selected account >
Advanced > Put Draft messages in [#mh/Claws Mail/draft/NewFolder]

If the account should be used for several different folders, then

1.

Select the draft folder > Create new folder(s)... [NewFolder(s)]
and edit the dictionaries for this folder(s)

2.

Move the messages manually from the default draft folder to a
sub-directory draft NewFolder with the wanted dictionaries.

Consider to add feature request to the bugtracker.

Regards,
Ralf



From liste at secarica.ro  Sat Jul  8 16:28:11 2017
From: liste at secarica.ro (Cristian =?UTF-8?Q?Secar=C4=83?=)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 17:28:11 +0300
Subject: [Users] saving first to drafts does not retain the per-folder
 selected dictionary
In-Reply-To: <20170708143621.5db0c4e0@utnubu>
References: <20170708150740.00004d6a@secarica.ro>
 <20170708143621.5db0c4e0@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20170708172811.0000659c@secarica.ro>

În data de Sat, 8 Jul 2017 14:36:21 +0200, Ralf Mardorf a scris:

> in some cases a workaround could be:
> 
> 1.
> 
> [...] (lot of work)

Thank you for the suggestion, but it looks too complicated for a workaround, considering all mailing lists & other dedicated folders I have that requires use of foreign language.

> Consider to add feature request to the bugtracker.

This, maybe. I suspect this should be not so difficult to implement (?) given that other custom details, like the landing folder (if custom specified) is already preserved when passing a message through the drafts folder.

Cristi

-- 
Cristian Secară
http://www.secărică.ro


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Sat Jul  8 17:29:07 2017
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 17:29:07 +0200
Subject: [Users] saving first to drafts does not retain the per-folder
 selected dictionary
In-Reply-To: <20170708172811.0000659c@secarica.ro>
References: <20170708150740.00004d6a@secarica.ro>
 <20170708143621.5db0c4e0@utnubu>
 <20170708172811.0000659c@secarica.ro>
Message-ID: <20170708172907.3581cb6d@utnubu>

BTW. how many dictionaries do you need?

Usually my dictionaries are en_GB and de_DE and I'm using both at the
same time. However, in the composer window the menu Spelling > Options
does provide just different de and en dictionaries and the bizarre he
default under more. Indeed, switching to en_US is nasty, since it's part
of a "More..." menu, but selecting just en_GB or de_De instead of using
both, seems not to be much work, but usually everything is fine, when
both dictionaries are enabled.

I guess the feature you want, instead of any workaround is only useful
for those who need more than two dictionaries and if using two
dictionaries at the same time isn't an option.



From dave at howorth.org.uk  Sat Jul  8 20:21:29 2017
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:21:29 +0100
Subject: [Users] mailto links not on top
In-Reply-To: <20170708014505.415a03e0@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20170629211352.62e05222@acer-suse.lan>
 <20170703194031.77cc6af0@acer-suse.lan>
 <A60C6D1C-D48A-47BE-9AF3-59B3D188453A@miras.org>
 <20170706132841.2b501f59@acer-suse.lan>
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Message-ID: <20170708192129.1bbd56b7@acer-suse.lan>

On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 01:45:05 +0200
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 00:20:00 +0100
> Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:
> > Thanks. I'm afraid I've no idea what the LXDE equivalent to your
> > all-settings application is. The window manager is openbox but it's
> > configuration manager doesn't have very similar options.
> >   
> Maybe this:
> "If your distro is using openbox as a window manager, open the Openbox
> Configuration Manager. On the "Windows" tab, the very first entry is
> "Focusing Windows". Make sure there is a check in the box. That will,
> as it says, "Focus new windows when they appear." Some distros don't
> have this checked by
> default." (https://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?t=37016)

Many thanks. Yes, I already have that box checked.

I recently signed up to the LXDE mailing list but it seems to be very
low volume. Perhaps I should try the forum.

FWIW, I use focus follows mouse.


From geek at uniserve.com  Sat Jul  8 22:57:18 2017
From: geek at uniserve.com (Dave Stevens)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 13:57:18 -0700
Subject: [Users] cntl-t for threaded view?
In-Reply-To: <20170708083808.290f3381@kujata>
References: <20170707181117.6eec370e@user-Satellite-A100>
 <20170708083808.290f3381@kujata>
Message-ID: <20170708135718.01af3a4c@user-Satellite-A100>

On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 08:38:08 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 18:11:17 -0700
> Dave Stevens <geek at uniserve.com> wrote: 
> 
> > I had a keyboard shortcut on claws 3.0.9 so I could use cntl-t to
> > switch between threaded and non-threaded views. That's not the
> > default on 3.13.2 that I'm using. Can I get that back?
> 
> http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Interface#How_can_I_change_the_key-bindings_.28hot-keys.29_in_Claws_Mail.3F
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul

lovely, thanks so much!

d

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-- 
In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the
usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are
not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to
simplistic questions.

----- Ursula Le Guin


From cae at eslrahc.com  Sun Jul  9 02:40:55 2017
From: cae at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 20:40:55 -0400
Subject: [Users] mailto links not on top
In-Reply-To: <20170708192129.1bbd56b7@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20170629211352.62e05222@acer-suse.lan>
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Message-ID: <20170708204055.0cfbd105@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>

On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:21:29 +0100
Dave Howorth wrote:

> > "If your distro is using openbox as a window manager, open the
> > Openbox Configuration Manager. On the "Windows" tab, the very first
> > entry is "Focusing Windows". Make sure there is a check in the box.
> > That will, as it says, "Focus new windows when they appear." Some
> > distros don't have this checked by
> > default." (https://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?t=37016)  
> 
> Many thanks. Yes, I already have that box checked.
> 
> I recently signed up to the LXDE mailing list but it seems to be very
> low volume. Perhaps I should try the forum.
> 
> FWIW, I use focus follows mouse.

When 'focus follows mouse' the focus may not leave firefox so the
compose window opens beneath firefox.

2 choices

1) In 'Openbox configuration Manager' Windows select "Place new windows
under mouse pointer"

2) Click on the 'compose' tab on the lxde panel and super fast move
the mouse pointer to that now visible compose window.  


There may, in fact be more ways but I've tried the 2 above.


    Charles

-- 
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The Hermaphrodaddies
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From dave at howorth.org.uk  Sun Jul  9 04:37:49 2017
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 03:37:49 +0100
Subject: [Users] mailto links not on top
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On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 20:40:55 -0400
Charles A Edwards <cae at eslrahc.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:21:29 +0100
> Dave Howorth wrote:
> 
> > > "If your distro is using openbox as a window manager, open the
> > > Openbox Configuration Manager. On the "Windows" tab, the very
> > > first entry is "Focusing Windows". Make sure there is a check in
> > > the box. That will, as it says, "Focus new windows when they
> > > appear." Some distros don't have this checked by
> > > default." (https://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?t=37016)    
> > 
> > Many thanks. Yes, I already have that box checked.
> > 
> > I recently signed up to the LXDE mailing list but it seems to be
> > very low volume. Perhaps I should try the forum.
> > 
> > FWIW, I use focus follows mouse.  
> 
> When 'focus follows mouse' the focus may not leave firefox so the
> compose window opens beneath firefox.

Hi Charles,

Thanks for the reply and this idea.

> 2 choices
> 
> 1) In 'Openbox configuration Manager' Windows select "Place new
> windows under mouse pointer"

I didn't have this checked but I do now. But it doesn't seem to do
anything. In particular:
a) it doesn't solve my original problem, the compose window is still
not on top;
b) if I press the Compose button on the claws toolbar, the compose
window opens on top, with focus, but alongside the mouse in exactly the
same position as if the option is not checked.

> 2) Click on the 'compose' tab on the lxde panel and super fast move
> the mouse pointer to that now visible compose window.  

I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Do you mean click on entry for the
compose window in the task bar in the lxpanel at the bottom of my
screen? In which case, yes, I can do that and the window raises and I
can move to it (as slowly as I like). But the whole point of my query
is to avoid that extra step and have the compose window appear on top
of others as it used to do. Apologies if I've misunderstood what you
meant.

> There may, in fact be more ways but I've tried the 2 above.

I don't understand why your results are different to mine.

Cheers, Dave

>     Charles
> 



From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Jul  9 12:18:39 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:18:39 +0200
Subject: [Users] Warning messages with claws-mail-3.15.0-2beta3-64bit.exe
In-Reply-To: <20170707133117.00000bd1@seibercom.net>
References: <20170707133117.00000bd1@seibercom.net>
Message-ID: <20170709121839.4293ddfc@penny>

On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 13:31:17 -0400
Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:

> warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]:
> warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 000001D256960000, 000001D25B291A70 )

Yes, I sometimes notice those. They are probably Windows GDB's reacting
to the few small memory leaks Claws Mail still has. It's not ideal, but
we're slowly getting rid of them (they're tricky to find). They
shouldn't affect anything.

For now, you can disable GDB halting on them it with
"handle SIGTRAP nostop pass" in GDB before starting the program with
"run". It's not ideal, but at least it doesn't get in the way when
we're interested in other things.

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From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Jul  9 12:28:21 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:28:21 +0200
Subject: [Users] claws-mail-3.15.0-2beta3-64bit.exe
In-Reply-To: <20170707121615.0000520e@seibercom.net>
References: <20170707121615.0000520e@seibercom.net>
Message-ID: <20170709122821.15504449@penny>

On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 12:16:15 -0400
Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:

> 3) Unfortunately, the program does seem rather sluggish when compared
> to the previous version.

Hm, that might be because I disabled use of a certain CPU instruction
set (SSE2) for one of the libraries, after seeing that the
"noncrashing" GTK Windows builds have it disabled for 64bit as well.
Obviously it did not help, since we still get crashes.

Just out of curiosity, can you put a finger on what exactly feels
sluggish? Redrawing of certain interface elements? Opening windows
(compose, preferences, etc.)? Something else?

> 4) Under "ABOUT" there is no new version number. All that is listed is:
> Claws Mail version 3.15.0
> 
> 5) System info is shown as:
> System Information
> GTK+ 2.24.31 / GLib 2.49.2
> Locale: en_US (charset: ISO-8859-1)
> Operating System: Win32
> 
> Shouldn't the operating system be listed as Win64?

"Win32" is just a platform name here, like "Linux" or "FreeBSD".

> I think that at least bumping the version number would aid a user if
> they were to forget what version they had installed. You have had
> several in the past few months.

Thing is, my "beta" releases are just betas in name of the
installation .exe file, nothing else. Windows applications have rather
constrained formal versioning - x.y.z-r, where each of the four have to
be a whole number. So there is no place to put an information about a
"beta" build there. Previous version was 3.15.0-1 (Claws Mail 3.15.0,
Windows package first release), and eventually there will be 3.15.0-2
(Windows package second release).

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From rdmyers.42 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 10 15:07:55 2017
From: rdmyers.42 at gmail.com (Rodney D. Myers)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 09:07:55 -0400
Subject: [Users] interesting question
Message-ID: <20170710090755.2f55ffe7@gmail.com>

What would happen if I set up one computer (computer a) to use
claws-mail, and then NFS mount that computer (computer b) and run
claws-mail against the same ~/Mail directory.

Would computer a follow if I read and/or reply using computer b?

Thanks

-- 
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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
        Ben Franklin - 1759
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From jimmy.patch at gmail.com  Mon Jul 10 15:33:30 2017
From: jimmy.patch at gmail.com (Jim Pachowski)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 19:03:30 +0530
Subject: [Users] interesting question
In-Reply-To: <20170710090755.2f55ffe7@gmail.com>
References: <20170710090755.2f55ffe7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJJJNQ+n0_zKwYtx6a7ec+g31=FM2JphX-iPk=6D_xPzRas3dQ@mail.gmail.com>

> What would happen if I set up one computer (computer a) to use
> claws-mail, and then NFS mount that computer (computer b) and run
> claws-mail against the same ~/Mail directory.
>
> Would computer a follow if I read and/or reply using computer b?

Yes. Take care the paths are referenced correctly and both
instances of Claws Mail are not running at the same time.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jul 10 18:50:32 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 16:50:32 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3845] New: Auto-folders in gmail remain bold even
 after mail has been read.
Message-ID: <bug-3845-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3845

            Bug ID: 3845
           Summary: Auto-folders in gmail remain bold even after mail has
                    been read.
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.14.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders/IMAP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: pcbaker at gmail.com

IMAP folders appear in bold even after messages have been read, when using
Gmails automatic folders such as All Mail and Read.

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From jerry at seibercom.net  Mon Jul 10 19:05:43 2017
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:05:43 -0400
Subject: [Users] Synchronize Folders grayed out
Message-ID: <20170710130543.00003eda@seibercom.net>

I just installed claws-mail on a new Windows 10 PC. The "Synchronize
Folder" option is grayed out. Since it is not on my other two machines,
and I "think" I have them configured identically, I was wondering what
the problem might be.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jul 11 08:24:44 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 06:24:44 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3846] New: Translation error on Chinese Simplified
Message-ID: <bug-3846-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3846

            Bug ID: 3846
           Summary: Translation error on Chinese Simplified
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Translations
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: yalun_liang at 126.com

The translation(/po/zh_CN.po:17067)
"这种模式下如果当机了即时数据不会完全丢失，但或许数据保存会来的比较慢。"
Should be:
"这种模式下如果宕机了内存中的数据不会完全丢失，但或许数据保存会比较慢。"

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From claws-mail at bercot.org  Tue Jul 11 12:38:40 2017
From: claws-mail at bercot.org (David BERCOT)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 12:38:40 +0200
Subject: [Users] HTML emails
In-Reply-To: <20170520100805.0e14731e@kujata>
References: <20170519173523.76f71d65@frogguski.911networks.com>
 <20170520100805.0e14731e@kujata>
Message-ID: <20170711123840.3ba2a365@debian-david-dsi.bercot.org>

Hello,

I'm a bit late but I've just upgraded to the claws-mail 3.15 with Debian !
According to Paul, I don't have to intall the fancy-plugin (I can't because the plugin is still in 3.14 version) because it is now included in claws-mail ?
So, how can I display HTML mails ?
They are only in text mode...

Thank you.

David.

Le Sat, 20 May 2017 10:08:05 +0100,
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> a écrit :
> On Fri, 19 May 2017 17:35:23 -0700
> sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote: 
> 
> > 2. I'd like to know what's the better of viewing HTML emails since
> > fancy is gone.
> > 
> > Currently, I have dillo loaded but it only "kind of works". Fonts
> > are small and can't enlarge them on the fly. Often some the images
> > either do not load or are so distorted...  
> 
> The Fancy plugin has not gone. It was included in the last release.
> The Dillo plugin was not included in the last release, as Dillo does
> not allow blocking remote content and other such concerns.
> 
> Dillo can be configured by its preferences page, ~/.dillo/dillorc.
> Here is what looks like a good example of its settings:
> http://samiam.org/software/dillo/dillorc
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jul 12 16:09:05 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 14:09:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3847] New: Ub
Message-ID: <bug-3847-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3847

            Bug ID: 3847
           Summary: Ub
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.14.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Fancy
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: nedhedrick at gmx.com

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jul 12 16:20:30 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 14:20:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3847] Ubuntu package claws-mail-fancy-plugin not
 updated to 3.15.0-2.
In-Reply-To: <bug-3847-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3847-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3847-595-5m13nnuyzB@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3847

Ned Hedrick <nedhedrick at gmx.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |nedhedrick at gmx.com
            Summary|Ub                          |Ubuntu package
                   |                            |claws-mail-fancy-plugin not
                   |                            |updated to 3.15.0-2.

--- Comment #1 from Ned Hedrick <nedhedrick at gmx.com> ---
When automatic software updates were installed, claws-mail was updated to
3.15.0-2.  However, claws-mail-fancy-plugin was removed because an updated
package was not downloaded.  

Attempts to re-install the plugin fails due to dependencies because available
claws-mail-fancy-plugin is still at 3.14 level.

At this time, claws-mail-fancy-plugin package is unusable.

Note that all other plugins and components were updated to 3.15.0-2 except for
the fancy plugin.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jul 12 17:09:56 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:09:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3847] Ubuntu package claws-mail-fancy-plugin not
 updated to 3.15.0-2.
In-Reply-To: <bug-3847-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3847-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3847-595-l6Rhj3MUYa@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3847

--- Comment #2 from Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> ---
Query the package repositories you use to check whether an update Fancy plugin
is being provided. Some distributions no longer build the plugin because of
security bugs in the unmaintained webkitgtk version it uses.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jul 12 17:18:22 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:18:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3847] Ubuntu package claws-mail-fancy-plugin not
 updated to 3.15.0-2.
In-Reply-To: <bug-3847-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3847-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3847-595-QBWpke4uXa@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3847

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #3 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
INVALID because it's about distro packaging, which is not handled by us.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jul 12 18:55:07 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:55:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3266] procmime.c: FILE leak in specific circumstances
In-Reply-To: <bug-3266-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3266-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3266-595-VreQnuOIuc@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3266

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2017-07-12 18:50:02.715301921 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=ddff08989033e8c3ccdd6e2179166da2a2000c3a
Merge: 5fea23f 6fedb78
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Wed Jul 12 18:50:02 2017 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=6fedb78e7f7928e72d6e7c7919ac2be752c789d7
Author: Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Wed Jul 12 18:48:48 2017 +0200

    Fix a file descriptor leak in procmime_decode_content().

    Closes bug #3266 - procmime.c: FILE leak in specific circumstances

--- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Looks like this report got overlooked. :) Sorry about that, and thanks!

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jul 12 19:01:02 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:01:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1773] [PATCH] compare strings faster
In-Reply-To: <bug-1773-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1773-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1773-595-ljv7PKH1Us@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1773

--- Comment #5 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> The problem with g_strcmp0 is that it's since glib 2.16.
> We have strcmp2 that does the same internally.

We now depend on glib >= 2.20, so this problem is no longer a problem. :)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jul 12 23:47:05 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 21:47:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1773] [PATCH] compare strings faster
In-Reply-To: <bug-1773-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1773-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1773-595-7o0l5avVFB@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1773

--- Comment #6 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #5)
> (In reply to comment #3)
> > The problem with g_strcmp0 is that it's since glib 2.16.
> > We have strcmp2 that does the same internally.
> 
> We now depend on glib >= 2.20, so this problem is no longer a problem. :)

That strcmp2 sounds like a candidate for removal then :)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jul 12 23:58:16 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 21:58:16 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1773] [PATCH] compare strings faster
In-Reply-To: <bug-1773-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1773-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1773-595-xHUjFRDHyK@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1773

--- Comment #7 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
For a carefu(In reply to comment #6)
> > We now depend on glib >= 2.20, so this problem is no longer a problem. :)
> 
> That strcmp2 sounds like a candidate for removal then :)

For a careful removal - the two functions return slightly different values for
various combinations of null and non-null arguments, so a simple
s/strcmp2/g_strcmp0/g might cause some breakage.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jul 13 00:46:42 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 22:46:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1773] [PATCH] compare strings faster
In-Reply-To: <bug-1773-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1773-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1773-595-YfdScsU0wV@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1773

--- Comment #8 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #7)
> For a carefu(In reply to comment #6)
> > > We now depend on glib >= 2.20, so this problem is no longer a problem. :)
> > 
> > That strcmp2 sounds like a candidate for removal then :)
> 
> For a careful removal - the two functions return slightly different values
> for various combinations of null and non-null arguments, so a simple
> s/strcmp2/g_strcmp0/g might cause some breakage.

Indeed, just to be sure I've made a little test program which shows what you
say:

"(null)" "(null)"       g_strcmp0 = 0   strcmp2 = -1
"(null)" "abcdef"       g_strcmp0 = -1  strcmp2 = -1
"abcdef" "(null)"       g_strcmp0 = 1   strcmp2 = -1
"abcdef" "abcdef"       g_strcmp0 = 0   strcmp2 = 0
"abcdef" "fedcba"       g_strcmp0 = -5  strcmp2 = -5

Since usage is mostly to test != 0, the problematic case is the first one. Not
sure if some comparison relies on that inequality, I'll check tomorrow.

Otherwise the patch works fine so far :-)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jul 13 00:51:50 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 22:51:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1773] [PATCH] compare strings faster
In-Reply-To: <bug-1773-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1773-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1773-595-0Q9GlsBNOL@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1773

--- Comment #9 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
Created attachment 1765
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1765&action=edit
Replace strcmp2 by g_strcmp0

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jul 13 10:09:42 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 08:09:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3848] New: Cannot edit existing filter or processing
	rules
Message-ID: <bug-3848-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3848

            Bug ID: 3848
           Summary: Cannot edit existing filter or processing rules
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: major
          Priority: P3
         Component: Filtering
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: brad at fineby.me.uk

Using GIT108 and I can no longer edit any filtering or pre/post processing
rules within Claws.  This applies to those accessed via the Configuration menu
and those accessed via the folder list RMB context menu.

Although I'm using a PC/Linux, I suspect this will affect other platform/OS
combos.

Severity raised to major.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jul 13 11:38:55 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 09:38:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3848] Cannot edit existing filter or processing rules
In-Reply-To: <bug-3848-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3848-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3848-595-6OWO1KRVXu@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3848

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2017-07-13 10:34:02.683703528 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=d3c0bb6594998675f2663837042d6cdbc2f17029
Merge: 7b1a5cd 57e6203
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Thu Jul 13 10:34:02 2017 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=57e6203525cd1238f5f7164ba2587c50a603d2c4
Author: Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Thu Jul 13 10:31:04 2017 +0200

    Revert "Fix a memory leak in matcherrc rule parsing."

    This reverts commit 2103e3787ab8ef2c8eb43d35292e5c91b5b61237.
    Closes bug #3848 - Cannot edit existing filter or processing  rules.

--- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Fixed in git, sorry about that.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jul 13 21:31:34 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 19:31:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3848] Cannot edit existing filter or processing rules
In-Reply-To: <bug-3848-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3848

--- Comment #3 from brad at fineby.me.uk <brad at fineby.me.uk> ---
Stuff(1) happens, as they say.

Thanks for the quick work, Andrej.

All is well again. Cheers.

(1) Not really 'stuff'   :-)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jul 14 14:32:06 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 12:32:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2194] Address Collector should not create multiple
 copies of the same address book
In-Reply-To: <bug-2194-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2194-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2194-595-NN73vneNoU@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2194

--- Comment #2 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
The dialog corresponding to that option would need an additional "Append to
address book" or similarly named checkbox to avoid creation of a new one.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jul 15 11:44:56 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 09:44:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3849] New: How to view HTML?
Message-ID: <bug-3849-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3849

            Bug ID: 3849
           Summary: How to view HTML?
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.15.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Fancy
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: mozga at trimen.pl

I just upgraded Claws Mail to version 3.15 (in Debian testing) and Fancy plugin
disappeared. HTML is not rendered. How to make HTML visible again?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jul 15 11:53:10 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 09:53:10 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3849] How to view HTML?
In-Reply-To: <bug-3849-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3849-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3849-595-Wx0B0bkvUg@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3849

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
this is a bug tracker, not a forum.
build webkitgtk yourself, grab the dillo plugin from git, etc...

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jul 19 16:31:55 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 14:31:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2093] Posting to SSL enabled news server appears to
 stall after DATA phase
In-Reply-To: <bug-2093-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2093-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2093

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jul 20 08:58:01 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 06:58:01 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2151] Bugzilla is missing more recent versions of
 Microsoft OS's
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References: <bug-2151-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2151-595-oaZ4lH2zQ2@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2151

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--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
All recent Windows versions have been in the selection for a while now. 64-bit
versions do not need to be listed separately, in my opinion.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jul 20 13:33:42 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 11:33:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3850] New: Remember more than one SSL certificate perl
 service (SMTPS/IMAPS/POP3S)
Message-ID: <bug-3850-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3850

            Bug ID: 3850
           Summary: Remember more than one SSL certificate perl service
                    (SMTPS/IMAPS/POP3S)
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.15.0
          Hardware: All
                OS: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: anfi at onet.eu

It seems that some email providers deploy more than one SSL certificate per
provided service (multiple servers not sharing certificates?).

It would be nice to make claws-mail capable to remember upon configuration
request up to a few SSL certificated per service.

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From dustbiz at gmail.com  Fri Jul 21 12:15:39 2017
From: dustbiz at gmail.com (Dustin Miller)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 16:15:39 +0600
Subject: [Users] Browse Folder Window's Typing-Triggered Search Ignores
 First Key Entry
In-Reply-To: <20161010190412.592b609a@dustin-NetPc>
References: <20161010190412.592b609a@dustin-NetPc>
Message-ID: <20170721161539.3743c822@dpc>

On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 19:04:12 +0600
Dustin Miller <dustbiz at gmail.com> wrote:

> Problem Example: I use 'Ctrl+O' (to move message to a folder) or
> 'G' (to go to a folder). In the browse folder window that comes up I
> type something like 'inb' for the 'Inbox' folder, but only 'nb' shows
> up. (I think the one time when I typed it fast enough, it may have
> ignored the first two letters, but I don't think it's strictly a
> timing thing, since even when I waited for a bit, it would still
> ignore the first letter.) The consistently successful workaround that
> I'm using is to just type the initial character twice, once to 'wake
> up' the feature and then once for the actual search.
> 
> Environment: Toshiba Netbook NB-305, Lubuntu 14.04, Claws 3.14.0
> (built from tarball)
> 
> I did not experience this with the same version of Claws running on
> Ubuntu 14.04 (with 'GNOME Flashback (Metacity)' desktop environment
> [DE]) on two separate desktop PCs. So I'm wondering whether this
> problem is associated with the LXDE DE? Or perhaps with the different
> hardware? For that reason, I'm also not sure whether this would
> qualify as a bug or not, but perhaps there is something that could be
> done on the Claws side to make this work as it's supposed to on this
> and similar systems.

FWIW, this problem seems to be 'fixed' in Lubuntu 16.04 based on my
recent experience with it on a different system. Based on my current
experience and what others have reported, LXDE still seems to have some
issues with the way it handles the focusing of windows for some
programs on some systems some of the time, but I'm not sure what the
problem is exactly or how to remedy it. But based on what I've read on
this list, this type of issue as it relates to Claws is not a Claws
issue. My guess is the best place for someone to start trouble-shooting
this is in the LXDE docs, forums, and/or other resources available.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jul 22 10:15:11 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 08:15:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2371] Port to GTK+3.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-2371-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2371-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2371-595-J0h1mJiOmQ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2371

Christopher Head <chead at chead.ca> changed:

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                 CC|                            |chead at chead.ca

--- Comment #54 from Christopher Head <chead at chead.ca> ---
Hello folks! I might be interested in helping out with the GTK3 porting effort
(I have a moderate amount of GTK+ experience, albeit almost of all if it using
gtkmm instead of pure C). Is there any kind of plan or checklist of particular
tasks that would make sense to parcel out?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jul 22 11:01:41 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 09:01:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2371] Port to GTK+3.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-2371-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2371-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2371-595-Cht7T6KZQf@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2371

--- Comment #55 from Hanno Meyer-Thurow <h.mth at web.de> ---
The task I had on my list back in 2011 was the GtkStyle -> GtkStyleContext
port.

Next to the Gtk documentation I would recommend looking at libreoffice gtk3
code[0] in general and especially for the gtk style context, the native widget
code[1].

[0] https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/vcl/unx/gtk3
[1]
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/vcl/unx/gtk3/gtk3salnativewidgets-gtk.cxx

Licensing - taking code - should be no problem since LO uses some weak
licensing. Ok to reuse in GPL code.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jul 22 20:05:36 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 18:05:36 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2371] Port to GTK+3.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-2371-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2371-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2371-595-oQjatyeCmL@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2371

--- Comment #56 from Christopher Head <chead at chead.ca> ---
OK. I might take a look at that. Although, might I ask something? According to
the documentation, GtkStyle is deprecated but still exists in 3. Does that mean
that Claws is expected to build and run properly with 3 already, and the
remaining work is just undeprecation? I agree that undeprecation work is worth
doing, but if it’s relying on something completely missing in 3, then wouldn’t
it make more sense to fix that first?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jul 22 23:37:35 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 21:37:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3850] Remember more than one SSL certificate per
 service (SMTPS/IMAPS/POP3S)
In-Reply-To: <bug-3850-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3850-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3850-595-CQCaElYvRL@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3850

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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            Summary|Remember more than one SSL  |Remember more than one SSL
                   |certificate perl service    |certificate per service
                   |(SMTPS/IMAPS/POP3S)         |(SMTPS/IMAPS/POP3S)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jul 23 00:26:39 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 22:26:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2371] Port to GTK+3.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-2371-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2371-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2371

--- Comment #57 from Hanno Meyer-Thurow <h.mth at web.de> ---
It is not just undeprecation.

Getting it to compile with current Gtk3 is a prerequisite. See step 1 and 3.
See comment #8 for additional sanitizing CFLAGS to add for proper access to Gtk
structures. No more direct access to members of structures. I guess code
deteriorated again; therefore the afore-mentioned CFLAGS and revisiting steps 1
and 3.

Deprecated code is just no good. Full stop. There is GtkRcStyle next to
GtkStyle, which is just no more available AFAIR. Therefore the Gtk(Rc)Style
refactoring. (#ifdef'ing)

I was able to compile and run Claws-Mail with Gtk3 back then. Though, the UI
was just completely unusable. There, the fun begins. :-)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jul 23 01:46:39 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 23:46:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3347] allow re-edit sent messages in folders with
 "save copy of outgoing messages to this folder instead of sent"
In-Reply-To: <bug-3347-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3347-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3347-595-bMWT4zRw6P@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3347

--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
Just noticed this has also been reported in Debian BTS some time ago:
https://bugs.debian.org/830291

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jul 23 02:00:22 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2017 00:00:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3851] New: Please add "empty folder" function.
Message-ID: <bug-3851-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3851

            Bug ID: 3851
           Summary: Please add "empty folder" function.
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: All
                OS: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: mones at users.sourceforge.net

An old request for a simple but powerful new menu option for folder list.

Quoting original submitter:
"
Please add "empty folder" function to pop-up menu, called w/ right click on a
folder
-- that will empty the under mouse cursor folder. This adds more comfotable a
folder
contents deletion at one click instead of seelcting all then, delete.
" (sic)

See original bug report for more info.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jul 23 02:00:44 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2017 00:00:44 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3851] Please add "empty folder" function.
In-Reply-To: <bug-3851-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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Message-ID: <bug-3851-595-49dzHiyA9Y@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3851

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

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                URL|                            |https://bugs.debian.org/712
                   |                            |759

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jul 23 08:51:53 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2017 06:51:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2371] Port to GTK+3.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-2371-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2371-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2371-595-pMBrQCdpOR@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2371

--- Comment #58 from Klaus Kusche <klaus.kusche at computerix.info> ---
Don't forget to port the fancy plugin:
The webkit interface has changed significantly from gtk2 to gtk3.

The fancy plugin is the main reason why gtk3 is needed urgently:
gtk2 webkit is going away really soon now in most distributions
for security reasons.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jul 25 10:56:45 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 08:56:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3852] New: delete header entry button doesn't restore
	colour
Message-ID: <bug-3852-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3852

            Bug ID: 3852
           Summary: delete header entry button doesn't restore colour
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: All
                OS: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Compose Window
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: mones at users.sourceforge.net

In compose window header entries which are automatically filled get their
background coloured to indicate that fact.

If the entry content is removed with the delete button next to it, background
colour is not restored, as one would expect (because it doesn't contain an
automatically filled value anymore).

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jul 25 17:17:20 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 15:17:20 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2371] Port to GTK+3.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-2371-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2371-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2371-595-lOBoWDoWSL@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2371

--- Comment #59 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Created attachment 1766
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1766&action=edit
folderview rewrite using GtkTreeView, v2

For what it's worth, about a month ago I rewrote folderview to use
GtkTreeView&co. almost completely. There are a few things missing (mainly
drag&drop functionality and column visibility configuration), but it mostly
works for day to day use.

There are a few issues with it, though, which stopped me from continuing:
 - when opening a folder by clicking on it, the focus sometimes does not stay
in summaryview
 - it seems impossible to make the rows as dense as with the old tree widget

If anyone is interested in continuing this work, I am attaching a patch of what
I have so far. Feel free to contact me for more info e.g. about the mentioned
issues - they are caused mostly by insufficient API, and some kludgy design
within the GtkTreeView widget code.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jul 25 17:21:49 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 15:21:49 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2371] Port to GTK+3.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-2371-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2371-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2371-595-Pct9r43mDg@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2371

--- Comment #60 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Note that even with --enable-gtk3, Python and Fancy plugins still seem to use
GTK2 CFLAGS. In Fancy's case, we already know that it will require additional
porting, but I don't believe Python plugin has been mentioned here yet.

Looks like there is no PyGTK3 - instead, PyGObject will need to be used for
GTK3: https://python-gtk-3-tutorial.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jul 25 17:27:31 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 15:27:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2371] Port to GTK+3.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-2371-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2371-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2371-595-pMMeu32FoC@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2371

--- Comment #61 from James Le Cuirot <chewi at aura-online.co.uk> ---
(In reply to comment #60)
> Looks like there is no PyGTK3 - instead, PyGObject will need to be used for
> GTK3: https://python-gtk-3-tutorial.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

Porting from PyGTK2 to PyGObject is very easy. I did it for another application
recently and I don't even know Python that well. This a migration script that
covers the basics.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jul 25 23:48:26 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 21:48:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2371] Port to GTK+3.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-2371-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2371-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2371-595-Gte0cyySEU@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2371

--- Comment #62 from Holger Berndt <hb at claws-mail.org> ---
(In reply to comment #61)
> Porting from PyGTK2 to PyGObject is very easy. I did it for another
> application recently and I don't even know Python that well. This a
> migration script that covers the basics.

I guess you are talking about porting PyGtk-based Python code to
PyGObject-based Python code. That might be helpful for some scripts users have
written based on the Python plugin, but it's not helpful for the plugin itself
- which is written in C, and uses the C-API of PyGtk and CPython.

So the task is to port from the C-API of PyGtk to the C-API of PyGObject (in
case there is one, or whatever magic stuff needs to be done for gobject
introspection). Also, a port from the C-API of CPython2 to the C-API of
CPython3 is probably required.

It sounds doable, but I wouldn't call it "very easy".

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From bvamundsen at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 27 06:02:03 2017
From: bvamundsen at yahoo.com (Brian Amundsen)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 04:02:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Users] Issues with Yahoo Mail and claws newly started?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.4.1501063202.2046.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
References: <mailman.4.1501063202.2046.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
Message-ID: <1248152628.301084.1501128123587@mail.yahoo.com>

Since Tuesday evening I have not been able to connect with Yahoo's imap
mail server.  I continually get a login refuse.  I've checked the Yahoo
system does have the allow third party apps to access, I've tried
imap-ssl<.>mail<.>yahoo<.>com and just straight imap<. both fail. This
was all working find until Tuesday.  Any one else experiencing this
issue and any work arounds?  I get a message that it is an RFC
compliance of server issue?Cheers, BrianA_MN
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From bvamundsen at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 27 16:20:18 2017
From: bvamundsen at yahoo.com (Brian)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 09:20:18 -0500
Subject: [Users] Solved: Issues with Yahoo Mail and claws newly started?
In-Reply-To: <1248152628.301084.1501128123587@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.4.1501063202.2046.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
 <1248152628.301084.1501128123587@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20170727092018.56bb125c@hicrest1.UGATE2>

On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 04:02:03 +0000 (UTC)
Brian Amundsen <bvamundsen at yahoo.com> wrote:
.
> Since Tuesday evening I have not been able to connect with Yahoo's
> imap mail server.  I continually get a login refuse.  I've checked
> the Yahoo system does have the allow third party apps to access, I've
> tried imap-ssl<.>mail<.>yahoo<.>com and just straight imap<. both
> fail. This was all working find until Tuesday.  Any one else
> experiencing this issue and any work arounds?  I get a message that
> it is an RFC compliance of server issue?Cheers, BrianA_MN
.
--------------------------------------
So I started researching old issues of third party apps with Yahoo IMAP
and found one post on mozillaZine that mentioned testing authorization
of their account with plain-text. So in following this idea and after
testing with Automatic Authorization setting and geting "login-refues"
and seeing in the network log that PLAIN and LOGIN were tested,  I
changed the configuration of claws to use Plain-text and every
thing began to work. I have always simply relied on Automatic
authentication and don't know what changed at Yahoo, but in case
others are having this same issue this seems to correct it.

Out of curiosity, when set to Automatic authentication, which
"protocols" are used?  All or best guess? 

Looking forward to replies.

Pax tecum, absit iniuria;
BrianA_MN

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A: Because it makes understanding the conversation harder!
Q: What is wrong with top replying?


From mir at miras.org  Thu Jul 27 16:27:49 2017
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 16:27:49 +0200
Subject: [Users] Solved: Issues with Yahoo Mail and claws newly started?
In-Reply-To: <20170727092018.56bb125c@hicrest1.UGATE2>
References: <mailman.4.1501063202.2046.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
 <1248152628.301084.1501128123587@mail.yahoo.com>
 <20170727092018.56bb125c@hicrest1.UGATE2>
Message-ID: <20170727162749.12608cf2@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 09:20:18 -0500
Brian <bvamundsen at yahoo.com> wrote:

> 
> Out of curiosity, when set to Automatic authentication, which
> "protocols" are used?  All or best guess? 
> 
The server will advertise which login methods it supports. Claws then
chooses the most secure method advertised.

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From bvamundsen at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 27 21:39:02 2017
From: bvamundsen at yahoo.com (Brian)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 14:39:02 -0500
Subject: [Users] Solved: Issues with Yahoo Mail and claws newly started?
In-Reply-To: <20170727092018.56bb125c@hicrest1.UGATE2>
References: <mailman.4.1501063202.2046.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
 <1248152628.301084.1501128123587@mail.yahoo.com>
 <20170727092018.56bb125c@hicrest1.UGATE2>
Message-ID: <20170727143902.5eb44456@hicrest1.UGATE2>

On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 09:20:18 -0500
Brian <bvamundsen at yahoo.com> wrote:
.
.
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 04:02:03 +0000 (UTC)
> Brian Amundsen <bvamundsen at yahoo.com> wrote:
> .
> > Since Tuesday evening I have not been able to connect with Yahoo's
> > imap mail server.  I continually get a login refuse.  I've checked
> > the Yahoo system does have the allow third party apps to access,
> > I've tried imap-ssl<.>mail<.>yahoo<.>com and just straight imap<.
> > both fail. This was all working find until Tuesday.  Any one else
> > experiencing this issue and any work arounds?  I get a message that
> > it is an RFC compliance of server issue?Cheers, BrianA_MN  
> .
> --------------------------------------
> So I started researching old issues of third party apps with Yahoo
> IMAP and found one post on mozillaZine that mentioned testing
> authorization of their account with plain-text. So in following this
> idea and after testing with Automatic Authorization setting and
> geting "login-refues" and seeing in the network log that PLAIN and
> LOGIN were tested,  I changed the configuration of claws to use
> Plain-text and every thing began to work. I have always simply relied
> on Automatic authentication and don't know what changed at Yahoo, but
> in case others are having this same issue this seems to correct it.
> 
> Out of curiosity, when set to Automatic authentication, which
> "protocols" are used?  All or best guess? 
.
--------------------------------------
On IRC it was suggested to post the claws.log to pastebin. It is now
posted and at 

https://pastebin.com/zb2BSvaJ

That log shows an RSS error, which is a confirmed server outage by
AlienBob.  The real issues start at 14:12:28 when attempting to log in
to imap dot mail dot yahoo dot com.  

The first failure is with the IMAP receive auth type set to AUTOMATIC.  

The second failure, starting at 14:14:49, is with the same setting
changed to PLAIN.  In this setting I also get a claws-mail ERROR screen
that states that PLAIN and LOGIN are only supported if libetpan is
built with SASL support.  Before building claws-mail I had built
libetpan and have cyrus-SASL installed first.

The last successful login, starting at 14:19:55, is with the AUTH set to
Plain-text.
 
BTW I also have a zoho.com IMAP account configured which connects
without issue using the AUTOMATIC setting, and connected each time when
the yahoo.com connections were rejected.

Hopefully this helps one of the dev's to research if this is a
claws-mail build issue or Yahoo server non-compliance.  NOTE the
Automatic setting worked on Tuesday July 25.  I'm aware that some have
noted that Yahoo reported some intermittent login issues which as of
Wednesday are reported resolved. Perhaps their resolve patched a hole
that now requires something new, like a special Third-Party app
password key?

System is Slackware64 multilib with Claws 3.15.0 libetpan 1.8 and cyrus
-sasl-2.1.26

Pax tecum, absit iniuria;
Brian

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Q: What is wrong with top replying?


From andrej at kacian.sk  Thu Jul 27 22:29:29 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 22:29:29 +0200
Subject: [Users] Solved: Issues with Yahoo Mail and claws newly started?
In-Reply-To: <20170727143902.5eb44456@hicrest1.UGATE2>
References: <mailman.4.1501063202.2046.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
 <1248152628.301084.1501128123587@mail.yahoo.com>
 <20170727092018.56bb125c@hicrest1.UGATE2>
 <20170727143902.5eb44456@hicrest1.UGATE2>
Message-ID: <20170727222929.2c4c17c2@penny>

On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 14:39:02 -0500
Brian <bvamundsen at yahoo.com> wrote:

> On IRC it was suggested to post the claws.log to pastebin. It is now
> posted and at 
> 
> https://pastebin.com/zb2BSvaJ

>From this, and from your other posts in this thread, it is rather clear
that Yahoo's SASL authentication is broken. Their servers advertise
SASL PLAIN and SASL LOGIN mechanisms, in addition to good old
plaintext mechanism, but only the last one works.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jul 28 11:24:24 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 09:24:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3853] New: Hacked by ./M4RY_PR0S4
Message-ID: <bug-3853-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3853

            Bug ID: 3853
           Summary: Hacked by ./M4RY_PR0S4
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: newbiepentest at gmail.com

Created attachment 1767
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Hacked by ./M4RY_PR0S4

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jul 28 11:40:38 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 09:40:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3853] Hacked by ./M4RY_PR0S4
In-Reply-To: <bug-3853-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3853-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3853-595-VzT2NA4jMf@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3853

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Congratulations, you successfully created a bugzilla account, created a bug
entry and attached a file to it. You are truly a fearsome hacker.

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From rsv869 at runbox.com  Fri Jul 28 14:37:38 2017
From: rsv869 at runbox.com (Reid Vail)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 08:37:38 -0400
Subject: [Users] Addressbook error
Message-ID: <20170728083738.3b0fac6d@rsv2-Serval-Pro>

Hello Claw Mail team -

I'm running version 3.13.2 on Linux Mint 18.2 and started getting this message when
Claws starts: "Addressbook Error - Could not read address index".

What are my steps to correct this, please?

Thanks

Reid


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Fri Jul 28 23:32:40 2017
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 23:32:40 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3853] Hacked by ./M4RY_PR0S4
In-Reply-To: <bug-3853-595-VzT2NA4jMf@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3853-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3853-595-VzT2NA4jMf@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20170728233240.52f5b80c@gandalf.lan3>

  lol

> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3853
> 
> Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:
> 
>            What    |Removed                     |Added
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>              Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED  
>          Resolution|---                         |INVALID  
> 
> --- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
> Congratulations, you successfully created a bugzilla account, created a bug
> entry and attached a file to it. You are truly a fearsome hacker.
> 



From marcel.parciak at gmail.com  Sat Jul 29 10:36:33 2017
From: marcel.parciak at gmail.com (Marcel Parciak)
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 10:36:33 +0200
Subject: [Users] vCalendar improvements
Message-ID: <20170729103633.1dfdd8c2@marcelnb.localdomain>

Hey everyone,

I would like to know if there is someone actively developing the
vCalendar plugin for claws right now? After using claws for some time
now, I'd like to help improving the calendar functions a little bit.
Things like authentication support or caldav support (things that I
would need actually).

Is there a good entry point or agenda to stick to? I think I would be
able (and would enjoy) to dedicate some free time to that.

- Marcel
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jul 31 09:29:35 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 07:29:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3854] New: IMAP error on imap.qip.ru: parse error
 (very probably non-RFC compliance from the server)
Message-ID: <bug-3854-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3854

            Bug ID: 3854
           Summary: IMAP error on imap.qip.ru: parse error (very probably
                    non-RFC compliance from the server)
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.15.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders/IMAP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: drizt at land.ru

Created attachment 1768
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Network Log

Often I get such error message in Network Log. My mail server is http://qip.ru.
Due this error it is difficult to use Claws. Connection is often broken. I also
will write to qip.ru support. I understand that it can be a server problem.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jul 31 10:58:09 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 08:58:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3854] IMAP error on imap.qip.ru: parse error (very
 probably non-RFC compliance from the server)
In-Reply-To: <bug-3854-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3854-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3854-595-VLGaF99j7v@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3854

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
If I'm reading this right, the last line received from server is bogus - it
seems to be a repeat of the similar line two lines above, but without the
mandatory pseudo-tag "*". (RFC 3501 section 2.2)

Also, it is sent after the "OK" response to our "STORE" request, which is
wrong. (see RFC 3501, section 6.4.6)

In IMAP protocol terms, that line is basically an unsolicited (and invalid)
server reply to a client request with tag "FETCH", which was never made.

No wonder Claws Mail doesn't like it. The server seems to be broken.

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From bvamundsen at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 31 14:11:21 2017
From: bvamundsen at yahoo.com (Brian)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 07:11:21 -0500
Subject: [Users] [BUG 3854] IMAP error on imap.qip.ru: parse error
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2.1501495202.26161.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
References: <mailman.2.1501495202.26161.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
Message-ID: <20170731071121.7007f3f6@hicrest1.UGATE2>

This is interesting.  This is the same error I've been getting from
Yahoo's servers for the last two weeks. I wonder if there is a
connection between the two issues?  

I corrected my connection by editing:
Configuration->EditAccounts..->Account<name>->Receive->Authorisation->Plain-Text

Try that and see if your connection is no longer broken. If it corrects
your problem please report back here to the list.  Otherwise let your
ISP know they may have broken server.  

BrianA_MN


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jul 31 21:46:03 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 19:46:03 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3800] automatic naming of automatic filtering rules
In-Reply-To: <bug-3800-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3800-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3800-595-nE3SAQkvBD@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3800

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Created attachment 1769
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Propose rule name

A neat idea, I'm not sure how this bug ended up ignored by everyone. :)
Attached patch sets the rule name to "<chosenheader> is <valueofthatheader>".

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