From mail at VictoriasJourney.com  Fri Dec  1 05:04:35 2017
From: mail at VictoriasJourney.com (Victoria Stuart (VictoriasJourney.com))
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 20:04:35 -0800
Subject: [Users] Poorly-wrapped text when viewed in external editor
In-Reply-To: <20170707111920.6c2fac23@gmail.com>
References: <20170706190425.78ab7f08@VictoriasJourney.com>
 <20170707095048.32ad318c@penny>
 <CAJJJNQ+rsD0jtB2AUpmmh30uXZz-VukbRx-q4SPnCjjVf6D2Vg@mail.gmail.com>
 <20170707084628.5912584c@gmail.com>
 <20170707111920.6c2fac23@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20171130200435.1541935a@VictoriasJourney.com>

Hello everyone!  I returned to this issue yesterday as I now want to use my CM messages for NLP-related work.  Looking at the raw (saved) messages, I noticed (linux: file -i <file>) that they were "message/rfc822; charset=us-ascii" even though I work in UTF-8 and CM displays them correctly (e.g. Greek letters in scientific text). Noting that the headers contain

    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I did a quick search and found two Linux utilities that I explored, that decode MIME-encoded text:

    munpack (part of the mpack package)
    uudeview

that enable you to process (unpack / decode) those messages.

I found the latter to be the most useful, as it allowed me to easily get the text of each of the CM files with a .txt extension, that I used in the processing.  I wrote a bash script, below, that will recursively grab CM files from a specified starting folder, and return the textual portions with an .out extension (optionally into a single output folder).

Since CM stores messages numerically (non-uniquely across directories), you can either output to the source directory, or rename the files.  I wanted to tag the file names with the parent directory name, anyway, so I just dump everything into a common output folder, with the files named with the parent folder, base name, and and .out extension.

Cheers, Victoria  :-)

# ============================================================================

#!/bin/bash

export LANG=C.UTF-8

# /mnt/Vancouver/Programming/scripts/claws/claws-decode.sh

# ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
# ENABLE SPACES IN FILENAMES:

## https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4638874/how-to-loop-through-a-directory-recursively-to-delete-files-with-certain-extensi

## To allow spaces in filenames,
##   at the top of the script include: IFS=$'\n'; set -f
##   at the end of the script include: unset IFS; set +f

IFS=$'\n'; set -f

# ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
# SET PATHS:

PWD=$(pwd)

OUT=$PWD/out
# https://stackoverflow.com/questions/793858/how-to-mkdir-only-if-a-dir-does-not-already-exist
mkdir -p $OUT

IN="/mnt/Vancouver/Programming/scripts/claws/claws_mail/"

# https://superuser.com/questions/716001/how-can-i-get-files-with-numeric-names-using-ls-command
# FILES=$(find $IN -type f -regex ".*/[0-9 ]*")     ## recursive; numeric filenames only

FILES=$(find $IN -type f -regex ".*/[0-9 ]*")       ## recursive; numeric filenames only (may include spaces)

# echo '$FILES:'                                    ## single-quoted, prints: $FILES:
# echo "$FILES"                                     ## double-quoted, prints path/, filename (one per line)

# ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
# MAIN LOOP:

for f in $FILES
    do
        bp=$(basename $(dirname "$f"))
        bn=$(basename "$f")

        # Output to $OUT dir:
        # https://askubuntu.com/questions/538913/how-can-i-copy-files-with-duplicate-filenames-into-one-directory-and-retain-both
        # uudeview -q -i -t $f; /usr/bin/cp -f --backup=existing -S .orig 0001.txt $OUT/$bp.$bn.out; rm -f 0001.txt
        uudeview -q -i -t $f; /usr/bin/cp -f --backup=simple -S .orig 0001.txt $OUT/$bp.$bn.out; rm -f 0001.txt

        # Output to source dir:
        # uudeview -q -i -t $f; /usr/bin/cp -f 0001.txt $f.out; rm -f 0001.txt
    done

# ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

unset IFS; set +f

# ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
# CLEAN UP:

## This must appear after the "unset IFS; set +f" line, above).

# ----------------------------------------
# Remove multiple extensions via 'brace expansion':

# https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10516384/how-to-delete-multiple-files-at-once-in-bash-on-linux
# rm -f *.{jpg, pdf, png, gif}
# Either of these work, but do NOT include spaces anywhere inside the braces:

#rm -fR $PWD/*.{jpg,pdf,png,gif}
rm -fR $PWD/*{.jpg,.pdf,.png,.gif}

# ----------------------------------------
# Rename extensions of renamed, duplicate files:

rename out.orig orig.out $OUT/*.orig

# ============================================================================


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Fri Dec  1 16:51:31 2017
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 16:51:31 +0100
Subject: [Users] autocrypt
Message-ID: <20171201165131.629d6153@gandalf.lan3>

What do you think about https://autocrypt.org ?


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec  2 13:52:14 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2017 12:52:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1517] address harvest does not collect address from
 undownloaded imap messages
In-Reply-To: <bug-1517-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1517-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1517-595-RIy0rQbyiW@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1517

--- Comment #9 from Tomas F <pulauten at gmail.com> ---
I would argue that this is a design mistake though. Why does someone need to
load the whole folder offline which can take many minutes when you could
harvest the addresses from the headers only which you have loaded in the client
already? It could work in a few seconds and this way it takes long minutes.

Not speaking about how counterintuitive this feature is. You should really at
least indicate somehow why it only downloads a few messages instead of the
whole folder.

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From shai at platonix.com  Sun Dec  3 10:13:00 2017
From: shai at platonix.com (Shai Berger)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 11:13:00 +0200
Subject: [Users] HTML presentation plugin
Message-ID: <201712031113.00890.shai@platonix.com>

Hi,

One of the features I need in a mail client is inline presentation of HTML 
mails. I really like Claws' attitude towards HTML in mail -- never produce it 
yourself, default to not presenting HTML -- but to my regret, I cannot impose 
that attitude on everyone I communicate with.

When I started my "move to Claws" project, I noted that Claws supports HTML 
mail presentation via different plugins. However, it seems that these plugins 
have gone stale -- Debian includes none of them, the Fancy plugin is now 
considered insecure, and the Dillo and Html2gtk plugins have been removed from 
the list of plugins[1].

I tried the basic workarounds I found suggested online -- the "open with" 
functionality, with a browser. I found that Firefox and Chrome do not get the 
right encoding, and that Dillo does not seem to support Right-to-Left 
languages. So, none of these seem usable for me.

Is there work going on to restore this functionality?

If not, and I want to try, where would be a good place to start?

Thanks,
	Shai


[1] http://www.claws-mail.org/plugins.php 


From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Dec  3 10:46:47 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 10:46:47 +0100
Subject: [Users] HTML presentation plugin
In-Reply-To: <201712031113.00890.shai@platonix.com>
References: <201712031113.00890.shai@platonix.com>
Message-ID: <20171203104647.0f83a2f0@penny>

On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 11:13:00 +0200
Shai Berger <shai at platonix.com> wrote:

> Is there work going on to restore this functionality?
> 
> If not, and I want to try, where would be a good place to start?

Hi,

in the short term, your best bet is probably to compile the
(correct version of) WebKit library on your own, and compile Claws Mail
with the Fancy plugin enabled. That will allow you to keep using Fancy
indefinitely into the future, no matter what your distro does, at the
cost of increased maintenance around keeping your mail client updated.

In the long term, there are two viable options:

 - Fancy was removed by many distros because the WebKitGtk version it
   uses is insecure, and any newer, supported WebKitGtk version
   only works with GTK3. So you can help out with porting to GTK3. Once
   Claws Mail supports GTK3, we can update Fancy to use a newer version
   of WebKitGtk, and distros can then package Claws Mail with this
   plugin enabled again.
   There is an ongoing effort by several people to make this happen,
   feel free to join in.

 - Write a plugin using different HTML rendering engine.
   Possible candidates that I know of are Chrome Embedded Framework
   (CEF) and LiteHTML. (Anyone knows about more? It has to have a C or
   C++ API.) We will be more than happy to help out.
   We already have a very basic LiteHTML plugin in the works, but there
   is another issue - it takes a lot of work to have a renderer that
   would support correctly display all the weird stuff that various
   HTML email generators out there can throw at it. WebKit is a product
   of many people over many years, and it shows. LiteHTML is a work of
   a single developer, and sometimes incorrectly displays more
   complicated HTML layouts. It also lacks the possibility to select
   text with your mouse.

If you want to help, the best way to start is to get yourself acquainted
with the code, and then it is up to you where and how you want to
help. :)

Regards,
-- 
Andrej



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec  4 02:51:10 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 01:51:10 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3929] New: Using App Specific Passwords via
 Google/Gmail Sign in Settings
Message-ID: <bug-3929-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3929

            Bug ID: 3929
           Summary: Using App Specific Passwords via Google/Gmail Sign in
                    Settings
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.15.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: critical
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: jlopez777 at gmail.com

Hello, I use app-specific passwords for my email client. My app-specific
password is not remembered despite asking it to be remembered. It works once
and then asks again the next time around forcing me to create new app-specific
passwords.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec  4 09:38:29 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 08:38:29 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3929] Using App Specific Passwords via Google/Gmail
 Sign in Settings
In-Reply-To: <bug-3929-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3929-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3929-595-d5cA21a9yb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3929

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
If you enter the password in account preferences, Claws Mail will remember it.

If you do not enter it in account preferences, Claws Mail will ask for the
password when it connects to the mail server, and offer to remember it only for
current session, which means until you close Claws Mail.

So if you want the password to be remembered permanently, open account
preferences and enter it there.

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From andrej at kacian.sk  Mon Dec  4 10:15:40 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 10:15:40 +0100
Subject: [Users] autocrypt
In-Reply-To: <20171201165131.629d6153@gandalf.lan3>
References: <20171201165131.629d6153@gandalf.lan3>
Message-ID: <20171204101540.4915d467.andrej@kacian.sk>

On Fri, 1 Dec 2017 16:51:31 +0100
Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote:

> What do you think about https://autocrypt.org ?

It looks... interesting, I guess, although I haven't had the time yet
to fully read what it is about. From the brief glance I assume it is
some sort of user-friendly verification framework built on top of PGP
keys?

Regards,
-- 
Andrej Kacian



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec  4 14:20:56 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 13:20:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3930] New: message view reverts to text on receipt of
 new message
Message-ID: <bug-3930-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3930

            Bug ID: 3930
           Summary: message view reverts to text on receipt of new message
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message View
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: pf at pfortin.com

Some messages I get are [unfortunately] easier to read with Fancy because of
content (images, etc) [sometimes] only appearing in HTML section.  I was
reading one such message, when a new message arrived into current folder -- CM
updated the message list AND reverted me to text view (my default viewing
method).

CM should respect my decision and leave the message view as displayed when
updating the message list.  Hmm... would this also happen if I was viewing a
PDF attachment? Other?

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From myetto1 at nycap.rr.com  Mon Dec  4 17:15:04 2017
From: myetto1 at nycap.rr.com (Michael A. Yetto)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 11:15:04 -0500
Subject: [Users] autocrypt
In-Reply-To: <20171204101540.4915d467.andrej@kacian.sk>
References: <20171201165131.629d6153@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171204101540.4915d467.andrej@kacian.sk>
Message-ID: <20171204111504.382e4657@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>

On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 10:15:40 +0100
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> writes, and having writ moves on:

>On Fri, 1 Dec 2017 16:51:31 +0100
>Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote:
>
>> What do you think about https://autocrypt.org ?  
>
>It looks... interesting, I guess, although I haven't had the time yet
>to fully read what it is about. From the brief glance I assume it is
>some sort of user-friendly verification framework built on top of PGP
>keys?
>

Does this quote make it appear to be built on a framework of PGP, or
one of Warm-Fuzzy.

"Autocrypt first aims to provide convenient encryption that is neither
perfect nor as secure as traditional e-mail encryption, but is
convenient enough for much wider adoption."

Verification seems to be controlled, or at the least strongly influenced
 by, the party wishing to be verified. No method is mentioned
for avoiding man-in-the-middle attacks. 

Mike Yetto
-- 
"Skeptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which
deep thoughts can be winnowed from deep nonsense"
 - Carl Sagan
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From jcubic at onet.pl  Mon Dec  4 17:49:27 2017
From: jcubic at onet.pl (Jakub Jankiewicz)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 17:49:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] Save icon name
Message-ID: <20171204174927.6176fb6c@old-laptop>

I'm using old theme and modified version of it Hash303030/HashA0A0A0 with
light and dark gray and they lack save icon in compose mail dialog.

Does the icon name changed? I'm using Xubuntu 1.04 with claws 3.14.1.

--
Jakub Jankiewicz, Web Developer
http://jcubic.pl/me


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec  4 18:14:22 2017
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 17:14:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] autocrypt
In-Reply-To: <20171204111504.382e4657@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
References: <20171201165131.629d6153@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171204101540.4915d467.andrej@kacian.sk>
 <20171204111504.382e4657@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
Message-ID: <20171204171422.2c7960c9@kujata>

On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 11:15:04 -0500
"Michael A. Yetto" <myetto1 at nycap.rr.com> wrote: 

> "Autocrypt first aims to provide convenient encryption that is
> neither perfect nor as secure as traditional e-mail encryption, but
> is convenient enough for much wider adoption."

Since using PGP/GPG is not difficult or inconvenient, and autocrypt is
not as secure, then there seems to be little point going forward. 

with regards

Paul


From dave at howorth.org.uk  Mon Dec  4 20:17:01 2017
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 19:17:01 +0000
Subject: [Users] autocrypt
In-Reply-To: <20171204171422.2c7960c9@kujata>
References: <20171201165131.629d6153@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171204101540.4915d467.andrej@kacian.sk>
 <20171204111504.382e4657@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20171204171422.2c7960c9@kujata>
Message-ID: <20171204191701.1201a1f8@acer-suse.lan>

On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 17:14:22 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 11:15:04 -0500
> "Michael A. Yetto" <myetto1 at nycap.rr.com> wrote: 
> 
> > "Autocrypt first aims to provide convenient encryption that is
> > neither perfect nor as secure as traditional e-mail encryption, but
> > is convenient enough for much wider adoption."  
> 
> Since using PGP/GPG is not difficult or inconvenient, and autocrypt is
> not as secure, then there seems to be little point going forward. 

They're probably aiming at people like me. I don't use PGP/GPG and
don't check the signatures of those who do, because I've never suffered
any problems as a result of mistaken identity etc. So I'm probably open
to a bunch of possible attacks but I still haven't bothered to apply or
even learn how to apply the tools that are available. i.e. PGP/GPG has
an entry barrier that is too high for me at present. I don't want any
more hassle.

But having said that, if I did bother about such issues I would want a
solution that was secure, not just something that was convenient. So
I'd agree with Paul's assessment.

I also wonder why the project chose the name of an existing unrelated
product as its name?

Cheers, Dave


From mark+claws at carnildo.com  Mon Dec  4 21:12:51 2017
From: mark+claws at carnildo.com (Mark Wagner)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 12:12:51 -0800
Subject: [Users] autocrypt
In-Reply-To: <20171204111504.382e4657@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
References: <20171201165131.629d6153@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171204101540.4915d467.andrej@kacian.sk>
 <20171204111504.382e4657@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
Message-ID: <20171204121251.4fb26f24@puma.carnildo.com>

On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 11:15:04 -0500
"Michael A. Yetto" <myetto1 at nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 10:15:40 +0100
> Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> writes, and having writ moves on:
> 
> >On Fri, 1 Dec 2017 16:51:31 +0100
> >Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote:
> >  
> >> What do you think about https://autocrypt.org ?    
> >
> >It looks... interesting, I guess, although I haven't had the time yet
> >to fully read what it is about. From the brief glance I assume it is
> >some sort of user-friendly verification framework built on top of PGP
> >keys?
> >  
> 
> Does this quote make it appear to be built on a framework of PGP, or
> one of Warm-Fuzzy.
> 
> "Autocrypt first aims to provide convenient encryption that is neither
> perfect nor as secure as traditional e-mail encryption, but is
> convenient enough for much wider adoption."
> 
> Verification seems to be controlled, or at the least strongly
> influenced by, the party wishing to be verified. No method is
> mentioned for avoiding man-in-the-middle attacks. 

My reading of it is that it's essentially PGP implemented the way that
most people use it: keys are authenticated on the basis of "trust on
first use".  Yes, an active attacker can subvert it easily, but in the
real world, active attackers are vanishingly rare, and the real threat
is passive eavesdroppers recording as much Internet traffic as they can.

-- 
Mark


From myetto1 at nycap.rr.com  Mon Dec  4 21:31:39 2017
From: myetto1 at nycap.rr.com (Michael A. Yetto)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 15:31:39 -0500
Subject: [Users] autocrypt
In-Reply-To: <20171204191701.1201a1f8@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20171201165131.629d6153@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171204101540.4915d467.andrej@kacian.sk>
 <20171204111504.382e4657@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20171204171422.2c7960c9@kujata>
 <20171204191701.1201a1f8@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20171204153139.69dca610@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>

On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 19:17:01 +0000
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> writes, and having writ moves on:

>I also wonder why the project chose the name of an existing unrelated
>product as its name?

Perhaps the developer is a fan of Friday night horror movies on TV and
wants to be known as 'The AutoCryptKeeper'.

Mike 'just saying' Yetto
-- 
"Science is the difference between wanting a reason to believe and
having a belief in reason."
 - @SarcasticRover
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Tue Dec  5 12:30:39 2017
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 11:30:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] autocrypt
In-Reply-To: <20171204171422.2c7960c9@kujata>
References: <20171201165131.629d6153@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171204101540.4915d467.andrej@kacian.sk>
 <20171204111504.382e4657@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20171204171422.2c7960c9@kujata>
Message-ID: <20171205113039.00006c6a@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 17:14:22 +0000
Paul wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 11:15:04 -0500
> "Michael A. Yetto" <myetto1 at nycap.rr.com> wrote: 
> 
> > "Autocrypt first aims to provide convenient encryption that is
> > neither perfect nor as secure as traditional e-mail encryption, but
> > is convenient enough for much wider adoption."  
> 
> Since using PGP/GPG is not difficult or inconvenient, and autocrypt is
> not as secure, then there seems to be little point going forward. 

+1


-- 

Brian Morrison


From shai at platonix.com  Tue Dec  5 22:41:02 2017
From: shai at platonix.com (Shai Berger)
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 23:41:02 +0200
Subject: [Users] HTML presentation plugin
In-Reply-To: <20171203104647.0f83a2f0@penny>
References: <201712031113.00890.shai@platonix.com>
 <20171203104647.0f83a2f0@penny>
Message-ID: <201712052341.02668.shai@platonix.com>

Hi Andrej and all,

On Sunday 03 December 2017 11:46:47 Andrej Kacian wrote:
> 
> in the short term, your best bet is probably to compile the
> (correct version of) WebKit library on your own, and compile Claws Mail
> with the Fancy plugin enabled.

This turned out easier than I expected -- the correct version of the Webkit 
library is still in Debian, even on testing and unstable (although there is a 
bug against it, calling for its removal before the next Debian Stable is 
released). All I needed to do was "aptitude install libwebkitgtk-dev"; after 
that, configure enabled the fancy plugin by default.

So, this blocker for my move to claws is now removed.

Thanks,
	Shai.


From mail at VictoriasJourney.com  Wed Dec  6 19:42:49 2017
From: mail at VictoriasJourney.com (Victoria Stuart (VictoriasJourney.com))
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 10:42:49 -0800
Subject: [Users] Poorly-wrapped text when viewed in external editor
In-Reply-To: <20171130200435.1541935a@VictoriasJourney.com>
References: <20170706190425.78ab7f08@VictoriasJourney.com>
 <20170707095048.32ad318c@penny>
 <CAJJJNQ+rsD0jtB2AUpmmh30uXZz-VukbRx-q4SPnCjjVf6D2Vg@mail.gmail.com>
 <20170707084628.5912584c@gmail.com>
 <20170707111920.6c2fac23@gmail.com>
 <20171130200435.1541935a@VictoriasJourney.com>
Message-ID: <20171206104249.1501b420@VictoriasJourney.com>

I see these messages are archived by month (http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/); my update above is in response to my thread in July 2017: http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2017-July/019762.html


From jn.ml.clwm.729 at letterboxes.org  Wed Dec  6 20:07:35 2017
From: jn.ml.clwm.729 at letterboxes.org (Jeremy Nicoll)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2017 19:07:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] Poorly-wrapped text when viewed in external editor
In-Reply-To: <20171206104249.1501b420@VictoriasJourney.com>
References: <20170706190425.78ab7f08@VictoriasJourney.com>
 <20170707095048.32ad318c@penny>
 <CAJJJNQ+rsD0jtB2AUpmmh30uXZz-VukbRx-q4SPnCjjVf6D2Vg@mail.gmail.com>
 <20170707084628.5912584c@gmail.com> <20170707111920.6c2fac23@gmail.com>
 <20171130200435.1541935a@VictoriasJourney.com>
 <20171206104249.1501b420@VictoriasJourney.com>
Message-ID: <1512587255.2754185.1196345136.767D3473@webmail.messagingengine.com>

On Wed, 6 Dec 2017, at 18:42, Victoria Stuart (VictoriasJourney.com)
wrote:
> I see these messages are archived by month
> (http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/); my update above is in
> response to my thread in July 2017:
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2017-July/019762.html

I think you're seeing a 'problem' that isn't actually there.  The "badly 
formatted" data isn't meant to be read directly by a human being; 
instead it's packaged up (in this case as Quoted-Printable) so that it 
can be sent properly across an email network.  It is not meant to be
formatted. 

Any mail client should show you the unpacked data, formatted 
within its capabilities.

Possibly the question that should really be asked is why plain text
has been packed as Quoted-Printable.  It's likely to happen if that
text contains any of the following: accented letters, hard spaces, 
sexed opening & closing quotes, ligatures etc - all characters NOT 
supported by basic email systems.

It's a bit like someone saving a webpage, then opening the html in
a text editor and wondering why it doesn't look like it does in a 
browser.
 
-- 
Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own.


From serge_robitaille at hotmail.com  Wed Dec  6 21:42:28 2017
From: serge_robitaille at hotmail.com (Serge Robitaille)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 20:42:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] Help - Claws Mail version 3.15.0 - PGP Plugin
Message-ID: <CY4PR04MB1257A1BBFEC2837642D86678F9320@CY4PR04MB1257.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Hi,

I need some advice to setup PGP...done it before on a previous computer but can't get it to work on this computer running Windows 10 32bits.

- PGP plugin are loaded

- Wish to use existing PGP Key created with PGP4Win

- In Claw's Preference for the present Account, PGP Plug-in - can't access Sign Key (not enable for some reasons).

What am I missing ?


_________________
Serge Robitaille
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From olaf at aepfle.de  Thu Dec  7 09:17:06 2017
From: olaf at aepfle.de (Olaf Hering)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 09:17:06 +0100
Subject: [Users] Poorly-wrapped text when viewed in external editor
In-Reply-To: <1512587255.2754185.1196345136.767D3473@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <20170706190425.78ab7f08@VictoriasJourney.com>
 <20170707095048.32ad318c@penny>
 <CAJJJNQ+rsD0jtB2AUpmmh30uXZz-VukbRx-q4SPnCjjVf6D2Vg@mail.gmail.com>
 <20170707084628.5912584c@gmail.com>
 <20170707111920.6c2fac23@gmail.com>
 <20171130200435.1541935a@VictoriasJourney.com>
 <20171206104249.1501b420@VictoriasJourney.com>
 <1512587255.2754185.1196345136.767D3473@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <20171207081706.GA3525@aepfle.de>

On Wed, Dec 06, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:

> Possibly the question that should really be asked is why plain text
> has been packed as Quoted-Printable.  It's likely to happen if that
> text contains any of the following: accented letters, hard spaces, 
> sexed opening & closing quotes, ligatures etc - all characters NOT 
> supported by basic email systems.

It is 2017. Sending 8bit should be the standard since a few years.
If you find a system that corrupts 8bit data, please let us know.

Olaf
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec  7 01:26:05 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2017 00:26:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3931] New: segfault searching server with master
	password
Message-ID: <bug-3931-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3931

            Bug ID: 3931
           Summary: segfault searching server with master password
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: major
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Address Book/LDAP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: mones at users.sourceforge.net

Created attachment 1821
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1821&action=edit
gdb backtrace of the crash

Requires:
• A working LDAP server configured in Address Book
• Use master password

Steps to reproduce:
• Open Address Book
• Select configured LDAP server
• Enter some search term on the search entry
• Press the Find button

Result:
Segmentation fault (backtrace attached).

Expected:
Master dialog pops-up asking for password, password is entered and query is
performed.

Thanks in advance,

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From codejodler at gmx.ch  Thu Dec  7 20:19:21 2017
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 20:19:21 +0100
Subject: [Users] autocrypt
In-Reply-To: <20171204153139.69dca610@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
References: <20171201165131.629d6153@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171204101540.4915d467.andrej@kacian.sk>
 <20171204111504.382e4657@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20171204171422.2c7960c9@kujata>
 <20171204191701.1201a1f8@acer-suse.lan>
 <20171204153139.69dca610@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
Message-ID: <20171207201921.45814ecd@gandalf.lan3>


Paul wrote,

> Since using PGP/GPG is not difficult or inconvenient

What's easy for you, and maybe most people on this list, might be difficult for others. 

How much is the global percentage of Email users who use PGP, what do you think ? I bet it's like 20%. And what do you think is the reason. 

And the majority would not start configuring PGP just when they suddenly have some specially private / critical communication, maybe just for lacking time (- they first need to understand things), instead they would rather leave Email aside and move to voice call (hoping it won't be recorded). 
Or just stay with unsigned Email and simply ignore the problem.
And even if it's not logical, this does not mean they don't care about internet privacy; rather, they've given up on it because it was justb a little bit too hard to understand. 

I also know many E-Mail users (mostly form the Windows and Apple worlds) who generally and wholeheartedly refuse to learn something 'technical' about using their computer. I  know the common arguments how that is wrong. But it is no more true today that you need to understand technology just to be able to use it,  rather, people even expect technology just to work out of the box and (if they got hte money) leave anything else to service.

The majority of todays internet users expect stuff like whatsapp, it just encrypts end-to-end, and you do not have to bother about it.*)

That's why i asked about autocrypt, if you think it's useful approach, as an idea or philosophy, a step in the Evolution of Email ? 


*) while in fact you already agreed from the beginning to give that part of your privacy to Facebook anyway, or Google or Microsoft. But i think this is another story.



From linux at slavino.sk  Thu Dec  7 21:04:53 2017
From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 21:04:53 +0100
Subject: [Users] autocrypt
In-Reply-To: <20171207201921.45814ecd@gandalf.lan3>
References: <20171201165131.629d6153@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171204101540.4915d467.andrej@kacian.sk>
 <20171204111504.382e4657@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20171204171422.2c7960c9@kujata>
 <20171204191701.1201a1f8@acer-suse.lan>
 <20171204153139.69dca610@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20171207201921.45814ecd@gandalf.lan3>
Message-ID: <20171207210453.6f9a2aa1@bonifac.skk>

Ahoj,

Dňa Thu, 7 Dec 2017 20:19:21 +0100 Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> napísal:

> Paul wrote,
> 
> > Since using PGP/GPG is not difficult or inconvenient  
> 
> I also know many E-Mail users (mostly form the Windows and Apple
> worlds) who generally and wholeheartedly refuse to learn something
> 'technical' about using their computer. I  know the common arguments
> how that is wrong. But it is no more true today that you need to
> understand technology just to be able to use it,  rather, people even
> expect technology just to work out of the box and (if they got hte
> money) leave anything else to service.

BTW, my 17 years old students are able to use GnuPG on Windows, where
it is not installed by default.

> The majority of todays internet users expect stuff like whatsapp, it
> just encrypts end-to-end, and you do not have to bother about it.*)

I consider "false security" to be worse than no security. If someone is
not willing to learn how to use tools as GnuPG is, they have do not use
them at all.

It is the same, as if someone don't want to learn how to lock his
home's door. One can use someone other, who will be locking/unlocking
them for he - but that person then can unlock his door for others too.

The security *is* or *is not* (as the gravidity), anything between is
false security.

regards

-- 
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http://slavino.sk
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From codejodler at gmx.ch  Fri Dec  8 01:18:11 2017
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 01:18:11 +0100
Subject: [Users] autocrypt
In-Reply-To: <20171207210453.6f9a2aa1@bonifac.skk>
References: <20171201165131.629d6153@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171204101540.4915d467.andrej@kacian.sk>
 <20171204111504.382e4657@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20171204171422.2c7960c9@kujata>
 <20171204191701.1201a1f8@acer-suse.lan>
 <20171204153139.69dca610@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20171207201921.45814ecd@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171207210453.6f9a2aa1@bonifac.skk>
Message-ID: <20171208011811.2ea95ca0@gandalf.lan3>

Slavko,

> BTW, my 17 years old students are able to use GnuPG on Windows, where
> it is not installed by default.

I'm no more student myself, but know about 20 first semester students and i'm pretty sure that about 15 of them don't even know what PGP is or does.

(They're all using Email of course)

So what ?

> I consider "false security" to be worse than no security. 

I agree (and i never said i'm personally happy with whatsapp)

> If someone is not willing to learn how to use tools as GnuPG is, they have do not use
> them at all.

Yes, "they do not have" ... this is wishful thinking but simply does not reflect reality, because they all just do Email, anyway.

And do you really want to tell them off ?? Like, several hundred million ?

> It is the same, as if someone don't want to learn how to lock his
> home's door.

Modern home doors lock themselves when you shut them. And this is standard for new houses (at least in Germany) today, no matter if city or village. 
The times when you would not expext evil people are long gone ...


> The security *is* or *is not* (as the gravidity), anything between is
> false security.

I think that's too black-white, since there is no absolute security with whatever-system anyway. It's just a matter of time and knowledge (or evil intent), and you can only make it harder to exploit. So, in my eyes, a little more security adding up to say 60% is better than 30% or none.




From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec  8 16:28:52 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2017 15:28:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3932] New: Claws is sending mail prematurely as I
 draft messages.
Message-ID: <bug-3932-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3932

            Bug ID: 3932
           Summary: Claws is sending mail prematurely as I draft messages.
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.15.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: critical
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Actions
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: jlopez777 at gmail.com

If I am drafting an email and send it, I assume it would get delivered like
this:

"Dear Bob, 

How are you? Hope all is well. 

Joe"

______

In reality, what it is doing is sending several emails throughout the composing
process and sending a series of emails like the following example blelow

Email sent 1 would read:

"Dear Bob,

How"

__________

Email sent 2 would read

"Dear Bob, 

How are you? Hope"

__________

Another email would be sent shortly after and would read:

"Dear Bob, 

How are you? Hope all is we"

__________

Until FINALLY the message is sent in its complete form. 

This has been EMBARRASSING and anything you can do to help me would much be
appreciated. Here is a video demonstrating the bug using a screen recorder -
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1txYFs6c0FjLyD000JWV8UoQ8YIsJQCbx/view 

Please excuse my daughter in the background. 


A claws fan,
Joe
jlopez777 at gmail.com

p.s. It was used on my other Linux machine version 3.15.1 on Antegros, this has
happened on my MX-16.1 machine as well. 

I'm pretty sure it was when using IMPA configuration for Gmail email account.
POP3 seemed to work fine on my other Antegros machine. 

Thanks. 



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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec  8 17:06:54 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2017 16:06:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3932] Claws is sending mail prematurely as I draft
	messages.
In-Reply-To: <bug-3932-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3932-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3932-595-tmtC2qgppJ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3932

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
This is a bug/mis-feature/lacking feature of gmail's imap implementation - it
cannot handle incremental saves to drafts.

These multiple drafted copies you see in the gmail web interface will not have
been sent, they are just many drafted copies.

In order to workaround gmail's broken imap you have 2 solutions:

1. Go to /Configuration/Preferences/Compose/Writing and turn of the
'Automatically save message to Drafts folder every n characters'

or

2. Use a local Drafts folder in an MH mailbox, (use /File/Add mailbox/MH... to
add one if necessary), and use the option on the account preferences Advanced
page to use that Drafts folder.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec  8 20:32:31 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2017 19:32:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3918] Claws presents 1y old certificate as new and
 asks for exchange
In-Reply-To: <bug-3918-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3918-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3918-595-yXfg3NX0YD@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3918

--- Comment #2 from codejodler at gmx.ch ---
Well, i exchanged several mails with them and they still insist that they
really, really didn't.

What are my options to get behind this ?

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From jcubic at onet.pl  Sun Dec 10 09:58:52 2017
From: jcubic at onet.pl (Jakub Jankiewicz)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 09:58:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] Build from source on 64bit Fedora
Message-ID: <20171210095852.1b688676@jcubic>

Hi,

I'm trying to build from git source. After installing all dependencies,
that's popup when calling config script, I've got error that EXTERN.h is
missing so I've added (because that's where the file is located):

export CPATH=/usr/lib64/perl5/CORE/

but then I've got errors, from perl, like this one:

/usr/lib64/perl5/CORE/proto.h:5687:15: error: unknown type name ‘off64_t’;
did you mean ‘off _t’?
 PERL_CALLCONV Off_t Perl_PerlIO_tell(pTHX_ PerlIO *f);
               ^

Any tips how to build claws-mail from source on 64bit GNU/Linux system?

Thanks

--
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http://jcubic.pl/me


From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Dec 10 10:54:58 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:54:58 +0100
Subject: [Users] Build from source on 64bit Fedora
In-Reply-To: <20171210095852.1b688676@jcubic>
References: <20171210095852.1b688676@jcubic>
Message-ID: <20171210105458.39a3386b@penny>

On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 09:58:52 +0100
Jakub Jankiewicz <jcubic at onet.pl> wrote:

> Any tips how to build claws-mail from source on 64bit GNU/Linux system?

My first advice would be to disable building of the Perl plugin unless
you explicitly want to use it. :) Rest of Claws Mail does not need Perl
at all, so you won't get such errors.

Most "64bit GNU/Linux systems" do not have any issues with building
also Perl plugin, though. This is either some peculiarity of your
chosen distribution, or just some missing Perl-related "devel" package.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 10 11:54:13 2017
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:54:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] Build from source on 64bit Fedora
In-Reply-To: <20171210095852.1b688676@jcubic>
References: <20171210095852.1b688676@jcubic>
Message-ID: <20171210105413.64d73cd1@kujata>

On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 09:58:52 +0100
Jakub Jankiewicz <jcubic at onet.pl> wrote: 

> Any tips how to build claws-mail from source on 64bit GNU/Linux
> system?


You need to install the perl-ExtUtils-Embed package.

with regards

Paul


From jcubic at onet.pl  Sun Dec 10 13:45:37 2017
From: jcubic at onet.pl (Jakub Jankiewicz)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 13:45:37 +0100
Subject: [Users] Password get scrambled after installing from source
Message-ID: <20171210134537.1d2e0b2b@jcubic>

I had installation in Fedora of Claws and on top of that I've installed the
version from git source.

After installation passwords for two of my accounts get replaced with some
garbage and I needed to updated it.

Weird enough one password was fine. The only difference is that account that
was fine was the last one and there was one account that was not selected in
between accounts that had password replaced and the password that was not
replaced.

Is this a bug? Should I report it in Bugzilla?

The version installed in Fedora was 3.15.1.

--
Jakub Jankiewicz, Web Developer
http://jcubic.pl/me


From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Dec 10 14:06:04 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:06:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] Password get scrambled after installing from source
In-Reply-To: <20171210134537.1d2e0b2b@jcubic>
References: <20171210134537.1d2e0b2b@jcubic>
Message-ID: <20171210140604.48d6f869@penny>

On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 13:45:37 +0100
Jakub Jankiewicz <jcubic at onet.pl> wrote:

> I had installation in Fedora of Claws and on top of that I've installed the
> version from git source.
> 
> After installation passwords for two of my accounts get replaced with some
> garbage and I needed to updated it.
> 
> Weird enough one password was fine. The only difference is that account that
> was fine was the last one and there was one account that was not selected in
> between accounts that had password replaced and the password that was not
> replaced.
> 
> Is this a bug? Should I report it in Bugzilla?
> 
> The version installed in Fedora was 3.15.1.

Sounds like a bug, yes. Do you still have both Claws Mail versions side
by side (one from Fedora package, one self-compiled, and presumably
installed in /usr/local) ? If so, try running each in turn, and look at
what the passwords look like in account preferences.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej



From jcubic at onet.pl  Sun Dec 10 14:40:03 2017
From: jcubic at onet.pl (Jakub Jankiewicz)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:40:03 +0100
Subject: [Users] Password get scrambled after installing from source
In-Reply-To: <20171210140604.48d6f869@penny>
References: <20171210134537.1d2e0b2b@jcubic>
	<20171210140604.48d6f869@penny>
Message-ID: <20171210144003.12b24af9@jcubic>


On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:06:04 +0100
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 13:45:37 +0100
> Jakub Jankiewicz <jcubic at onet.pl> wrote:
> 
> > I had installation in Fedora of Claws and on top of that I've installed
> > the version from git source.
> > 
> > After installation passwords for two of my accounts get replaced with some
> > garbage and I needed to updated it.
> > 
> > Weird enough one password was fine. The only difference is that account
> > that was fine was the last one and there was one account that was not
> > selected in between accounts that had password replaced and the password
> > that was not replaced.
> > 
> > Is this a bug? Should I report it in Bugzilla?
> > 
> > The version installed in Fedora was 3.15.1.  
> 
> Sounds like a bug, yes. Do you still have both Claws Mail versions side
> by side (one from Fedora package, one self-compiled, and presumably
> installed in /usr/local) ? If so, try running each in turn, and look at
> what the passwords look like in account preferences.

It seems that I have both but the old one don't have show password option but
it seems the password is fine because I don't get error when I fetch emails.


--
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http://jcubic.pl/me


From jcubic at onet.pl  Sun Dec 10 14:49:59 2017
From: jcubic at onet.pl (Jakub Jankiewicz)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:49:59 +0100
Subject: [Users] Notification don't load
Message-ID: <20171210144959.0bb0a279@jcubic>

Hi,

I've just installed claws from source and notification plugin didn't load. I
had this when running config:

            - notification
                Features:
                    banner
                    command
                    hotkeys
                    lcdproc
                    libnotify
                    libcanberra-gtk
                    popup
                    trayicon
                Disabled due to missing dependencies:
                    unity/messaging-menu

And when I've selected notification from Plugins dialog I got error that the
plugin can't be loaded because of error (no error message provided due to
error that I've just reported on bugzilla
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3933).

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From jcubic at onet.pl  Sun Dec 10 15:03:51 2017
From: jcubic at onet.pl (Jakub Jankiewicz)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 15:03:51 +0100
Subject: [Users] Build from source on 64bit Fedora
In-Reply-To: <20171210105413.64d73cd1@kujata>
References: <20171210095852.1b688676@jcubic> <20171210105413.64d73cd1@kujata>
Message-ID: <20171210150351.7611975e@jcubic>



On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:54:13 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> > Any tips how to build claws-mail from source on 64bit GNU/Linux
> > system?
> 
> You need to install the perl-ExtUtils-Embed package.

Thanks, it work

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http://jcubic.pl/me


From jcubic at onet.pl  Sun Dec 10 15:08:10 2017
From: jcubic at onet.pl (Jakub Jankiewicz)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 15:08:10 +0100
Subject: [Users] Save icon name
In-Reply-To: <20171204174927.6176fb6c@old-laptop>
References: <20171204174927.6176fb6c@old-laptop>
Message-ID: <20171210150810.73889cae@jcubic>



On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 17:49:27 +0100
Jakub Jankiewicz <jcubic at onet.pl> wrote:

> Does the icon name changed? I'm using Xubuntu 1.04 with claws 3.14.1.

Found it in source code the icon changed name from mail to mail_draft.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 10 14:47:26 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 13:47:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3933] New: Plugin error loading message show
 description instead of error
Message-ID: <bug-3933-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3933

            Bug ID: 3933
           Summary: Plugin error loading message show description instead
                    of error
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: jcubic at onet.pl

Created attachment 1822
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1822&action=edit
Screenshot of the error

I've got error while loading notification plugin, and it show description
instead of error message.

I've installed Claws on top of Fedora build in installation but just to be sure
that the plugin was from right installation I've remove it from
/usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/ directory

The config says:

            - notification
                Features:
                    banner
                    command
                    hotkeys
                    lcdproc
                    libnotify
                    popup
                    trayicon
                Disabled due to missing dependencies:
                    unity/messaging-menu
   Disabled:
            - demo

The binary will be installed in /usr/local/bin

Configure finished, type 'make' to build.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 10 15:16:11 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:16:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3933] Plugin error loading message show description
 instead of error
In-Reply-To: <bug-3933-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3933-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3933-595-gnt9I4Rd5Q@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3933

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
You have one notification loaded from one location and you are trying to load
another copy of the plugin from a different location.

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From quailrunner at cinci.rr.com  Sun Dec 10 15:29:18 2017
From: quailrunner at cinci.rr.com (Jerome P Rosenthal)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 09:29:18 -0500
Subject: [Users] Newbee on Claws
Message-ID: <20171210092918.000045df@cinci.rr.com>


Hi,

I'm new to Claws Mail and have a few questions I hope you can answer
for me.

How can I adjust, as a default,  the left margin when
composing. Right now there is no margin.

At the top of my folders list following my name and also following the
Mailbox header is "(MH)." I have no idea what it is and would like to
delete it. Help please.

Finally, is there any toolbar when composing emails that have options
for font size, underlining, bolding, indenting, etc?

Thank you so much for any help in finding solutions.

Jerry


From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org  Sun Dec 10 15:47:57 2017
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 11:47:57 -0300
Subject: [Users] Newbee on Claws
In-Reply-To: <20171210092918.000045df@cinci.rr.com>
References: <20171210092918.000045df@cinci.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20171210114757.7380d930@ron.cerrocora.org>

On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 09:29:18 -0500
Jerome P Rosenthal <quailrunner at cinci.rr.com> wrote:

> How can I adjust, as a default,  the left margin when
> composing. Right now there is no margin.
> Finally, is there any toolbar when composing emails that have options
> for font size, underlining, bolding, indenting, etc?

Claws-mail is plain text only, so there is no provision for formatting, margins, fonts, font size, underlining, bolding, indenting, etc
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
-- 
                   So, is the glass half empty, half full,
                  or just twice as large as it needs to be ?
                                    
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From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Dec 10 16:11:07 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 16:11:07 +0100
Subject: [Users] Password get scrambled after installing from source
In-Reply-To: <20171210144003.12b24af9@jcubic>
References: <20171210134537.1d2e0b2b@jcubic> <20171210140604.48d6f869@penny>
 <20171210144003.12b24af9@jcubic>
Message-ID: <20171210161107.5b80976f@penny>

On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:40:03 +0100
Jakub Jankiewicz <jcubic at onet.pl> wrote:

> > Sounds like a bug, yes. Do you still have both Claws Mail versions side
> > by side (one from Fedora package, one self-compiled, and presumably
> > installed in /usr/local) ? If so, try running each in turn, and look at
> > what the passwords look like in account preferences.  
> 
> It seems that I have both but the old one don't have show password option but
> it seems the password is fine because I don't get error when I fetch emails.

Can you please try recompiling Claws Mail with attached patch and see if
you can still see this bug?

Thanks,
-- 
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 10 16:38:14 2017
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 15:38:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] Newbee on Claws
In-Reply-To: <20171210092918.000045df@cinci.rr.com>
References: <20171210092918.000045df@cinci.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20171210153814.0eb82b9b@kujata>

On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 09:29:18 -0500
Jerome P Rosenthal <quailrunner at cinci.rr.com> wrote: 

> How can I adjust, as a default,  the left margin when
> composing. Right now there is no margin.

There's a hidden preference, show_compose_margin, see the manual for
details of this and all hidden preferences:
http://claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html

> At the top of my folders list following my name and also following
> the Mailbox header is "(MH)." I have no idea what it is and would
> like to delete it. Help please.

It indicates that it is an MH format mailbox. You've have to live
with it because you can't remove it.

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 10 18:16:41 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 17:16:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3793] Segfaults when master passphrase dialog is
 launched in the middle of autocompletion
In-Reply-To: <bug-3793-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3793-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3793-595-L1jLcz8raF@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3793

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #3 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2017-12-10 18:14:03.093337675 +0100
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=fcff54c23bcab3ddb3c0d3d7c0e700049427adc0
Merge: 446fd06 e0f4140
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Sun Dec 10 18:14:02 2017 +0100

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=e0f41407ce397eed880ba0360d9b5725f9176ed8
Author: Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Sun Dec 10 10:49:02 2017 +0100

    Fix bug 3931: segfault searching server with master password

    Request master passphrase earlier and inhibit search if no master
    passphrase is available.

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=48f72c22f91fbe0d6e872e89bd4dce9d39090e81
Author: Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Sun Dec 10 10:49:01 2017 +0100

    Fix bug 3793: segfault when autocompletion asks for master passphrase

    This is done by checking early if any ldap server is password-protected,
    and asking for master passphrase when compose window appears.  If user
    cancels the dialog (does not enter the passphrase), we temporarily
    disable the password-protected LDAP servers, just for that particular
    compose window. We reenable them in compose_destroy().

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=d954a01de48f90a726e79995f4daeed3e9fee11b
Author: Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Sun Dec 10 10:49:00 2017 +0100

    Add public call to get master password

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 10 18:17:16 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 17:17:16 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3931] segfault searching server with master password
In-Reply-To: <bug-3931-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3931-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3931-595-Sslb6DzdfX@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3931

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2017-12-10 18:14:03.093337675 +0100
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=fcff54c23bcab3ddb3c0d3d7c0e700049427adc0
Merge: 446fd06 e0f4140
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Sun Dec 10 18:14:02 2017 +0100

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=e0f41407ce397eed880ba0360d9b5725f9176ed8
Author: Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Sun Dec 10 10:49:02 2017 +0100

    Fix bug 3931: segfault searching server with master password

    Request master passphrase earlier and inhibit search if no master
    passphrase is available.

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=48f72c22f91fbe0d6e872e89bd4dce9d39090e81
Author: Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Sun Dec 10 10:49:01 2017 +0100

    Fix bug 3793: segfault when autocompletion asks for master passphrase

    This is done by checking early if any ldap server is password-protected,
    and asking for master passphrase when compose window appears.  If user
    cancels the dialog (does not enter the passphrase), we temporarily
    disable the password-protected LDAP servers, just for that particular
    compose window. We reenable them in compose_destroy().

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=d954a01de48f90a726e79995f4daeed3e9fee11b
Author: Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Sun Dec 10 10:49:00 2017 +0100

    Add public call to get master password

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From codejodler at gmx.ch  Sun Dec 10 19:07:33 2017
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 19:07:33 +0100
Subject: [Users] Remove selected attachments of mail archive
Message-ID: <20171210190733.3e3966e5@gandalf.lan3>

Hi everybody, and especially Devos,

My local (POP) mail folders are getting really huge in size and i believe this is mostly for zillions of attachments, like Photos or PDF documents. I'm already keeping only mails that i really want to keep, so deleting the mails (text) is not an option. It's still some thousand mails, after some years, in about 100 folders, and i'm not going to scan through all these. I'd like to shrink these folders somehow, to speed up backups.

My question is, what do you think how hard it would be, to code a plugin (maybe python) that lists all attachments, clickable (to open and examine) and allows to select multiple to remove from their respective mail. I'd appreciate just a comment like 'easy' or 'difficult'.

I'm not going to file this as feature request because i think nobody will pick it up anyway. I'm just curious, and if you say it's easy, maybe i can find someone doing that stuff for me. 


From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Dec 10 19:19:46 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 19:19:46 +0100
Subject: [Users] Remove selected attachments of mail archive
In-Reply-To: <20171210190733.3e3966e5@gandalf.lan3>
References: <20171210190733.3e3966e5@gandalf.lan3>
Message-ID: <20171210191946.5a4f458e@penny>

On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 19:07:33 +0100
Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote:

> Hi everybody, and especially Devos,
> 
> My local (POP) mail folders are getting really huge in size and i believe this is mostly for zillions of attachments, like Photos or PDF documents. I'm already keeping only mails that i really want to keep, so deleting the mails (text) is not an option. It's still some thousand mails, after some years, in about 100 folders, and i'm not going to scan through all these. I'd like to shrink these folders somehow, to speed up backups.
> 
> My question is, what do you think how hard it would be, to code a plugin (maybe python) that lists all attachments, clickable (to open and examine) and allows to select multiple to remove from their respective mail. I'd appreciate just a comment like 'easy' or 'difficult'.
> 
> I'm not going to file this as feature request because i think nobody will pick it up anyway. I'm just curious, and if you say it's easy, maybe i can find someone doing that stuff for me. 

Such plugin already exists. :) It's called Attachment Remover, or
"AttRemover", and it should be packaged with all the other plugins on
any OS/distribution.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej



From iljarogoff at gmail.com  Sun Dec 10 20:12:45 2017
From: iljarogoff at gmail.com (Ilja Rogoff)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 20:12:45 +0100
Subject: [Users] IMAP idle
Message-ID: <5A2D872D.7030805@gmail.com>

Hello,

I'm new to Claws Mail on Windows. So far it looks like the perfect email
client for me. The only feature I'm missing is the IMAP idle / IMAP push
feature. Most clients I know have that feature... is there a way to get
this by using a plugin? Or will it be added somewhen?

-- 
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    iljarogoff at gmail.com



From cae at eslrahc.com  Sun Dec 10 23:27:57 2017
From: cae at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 17:27:57 -0500
Subject: [Users] Claws git shows version as 1.15.0
Message-ID: <20171210172757.7d0ca354@Boss1800.eslrahc.com>


Why is not git version taged as 1.15.1???

 claws-mail -V
Claws Mail version 3.15.0-194-ge0f414-dirty
runtime GTK+ 2.24.31 / GLib 2.54.2
buildtime GTK+ 2.24.31 / GLib 2.54.2
Compiled-in features:
 compface
 Enchant
 GnuTLS
 IPv6
 iconv
 JPilot
 LDAP
 libetpan 1.8
 libSM
 NetworkManager
 librSVG 2.40.19


    Charles
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4.14.5-server-1.mga7 x86_64
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From shai at platonix.com  Sun Dec 10 23:48:26 2017
From: shai at platonix.com (Shai Berger)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 00:48:26 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws git shows version as 1.15.0
In-Reply-To: <20171210172757.7d0ca354@Boss1800.eslrahc.com>
References: <20171210172757.7d0ca354@Boss1800.eslrahc.com>
Message-ID: <201712110048.27043.shai@platonix.com>

On Monday 11 December 2017 00:27:57 Charles A Edwards wrote:
> Why is not git version taged as 1.15.1???
> 

Because the development is not linear.

When 3.15.0 was released, the development branch was split in two: the master 
branch (which is most you compiled) progresses towards 3.16, while another 
branch is used for fixes of 3.15.x -- it's called 3.15.0-cherrypick (a somewhat 
odd name, but...). The 3.15.1 tag only exists in that branch.

HTH,
	Shai.


From ricardo at mones.org  Mon Dec 11 02:47:21 2017
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 02:47:21 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws git shows version as 1.15.0
In-Reply-To: <201712110048.27043.shai@platonix.com>
References: <20171210172757.7d0ca354@Boss1800.eslrahc.com>
 <201712110048.27043.shai@platonix.com>
Message-ID: <20171211024721.1248eadb@busgosu>

On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 00:48:26 +0200
Shai Berger <shai at platonix.com> wrote:

> On Monday 11 December 2017 00:27:57 Charles A Edwards wrote:
> > Why is not git version taged as 1.15.1???
> >   
> 
> Because the development is not linear.

There's an open investigation on time travel to fix some config version
issue, until that is achieved development will still be linear ;-)

> When 3.15.0 was released, the development branch was split in two: the
> master branch (which is most you compiled) progresses towards 3.16, while
> another branch is used for fixes of 3.15.x -- it's called
> 3.15.0-cherrypick (a somewhat odd name, but...). The 3.15.1 tag only
> exists in that branch.

There's no spoon^Wsplitting. The 3.15.1 release is made with selected fixes
from master branch (see man git-cherry-pick), hence the "somewhat odd" name.

Anything in 3.15.1 was already in master.

regards,
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  00:46 <@Ticho> um, yes                            Seen on #sylpheed
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From ricardo at mones.org  Mon Dec 11 02:53:12 2017
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 02:53:12 +0100
Subject: [Users] IMAP idle
In-Reply-To: <5A2D872D.7030805@gmail.com>
References: <5A2D872D.7030805@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20171211025312.448c0645@busgosu>

On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 20:12:45 +0100
Ilja Rogoff <iljarogoff at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm new to Claws Mail on Windows. So far it looks like the perfect email
> client for me. The only feature I'm missing is the IMAP idle / IMAP push
> feature. Most clients I know have that feature... is there a way to get
> this by using a plugin? Or will it be added somewhen?

Not yet. See the complete story in http://www.claws-mail.org/bug/1408 and
http://www.claws-mail.org/bug/1748.

regards,
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From iljarogoff at gmail.com  Mon Dec 11 12:58:59 2017
From: iljarogoff at gmail.com (Ilja Rogoff)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 12:58:59 +0100
Subject: [Users] IMAP idle
In-Reply-To: <20171211025312.448c0645@busgosu>
References: <5A2D872D.7030805@gmail.com> <20171211025312.448c0645@busgosu>
Message-ID: <E84AFAFC-943D-4365-A6C6-29BB2BB234C8@gmail.com>

Ok, thanks for the links. I believe I could not expect that there is a change on that feature.

Am 11. Dezember 2017 02:53:12 MEZ schrieb Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>:
>On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 20:12:45 +0100
>Ilja Rogoff <iljarogoff at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I'm new to Claws Mail on Windows. So far it looks like the perfect
>email
>> client for me. The only feature I'm missing is the IMAP idle / IMAP
>push
>> feature. Most clients I know have that feature... is there a way to
>get
>> this by using a plugin? Or will it be added somewhen?
>
>Not yet. See the complete story in http://www.claws-mail.org/bug/1408
>and
>http://www.claws-mail.org/bug/1748.
>
>regards,

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From codejodler at gmx.ch  Mon Dec 11 19:49:00 2017
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:49:00 +0100
Subject: [Users] Remove selected attachments of mail archive
In-Reply-To: <20171210191946.5a4f458e@penny>
References: <20171210190733.3e3966e5@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171210191946.5a4f458e@penny>
Message-ID: <20171211194900.1d785d58@gandalf.lan3>

Andrej,

Just installed and tried that plugin, and it works like a charme ...

wohoo, clwas rocks !

(I saw this plugin before but always thought it works for incoming mails)



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec 11 18:57:56 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 17:57:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3934] New: print html bug
Message-ID: <bug-3934-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3934

            Bug ID: 3934
           Summary: print html bug
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.15.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 8
            Status: NEW
          Severity: major
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: rmaf at clix.pt

Hi,

When I print a html email, Claws Mail does it correctly, except it produces a
miniature (i.e. a very small size print). See attachment.
Is there a way to correct this behavior? 

Regards,
Rui Ferreira

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec 11 18:59:14 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 17:59:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3934] print html bug
In-Reply-To: <bug-3934-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3934-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3934-595-v22RfbhwrR@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3934

--- Comment #1 from rmaf at clix.pt ---
Created attachment 1823
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1823&action=edit
print html result

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec 11 20:35:10 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:35:10 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3934] print html bug
In-Reply-To: <bug-3934-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3934-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3934-595-ksfOAVCqC2@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3934

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #2 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
use /File/Page setup.

Please discuss this further on the users' mailing list or IRC:
http://www.claws-mail.org/MLs.php

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec 11 20:46:02 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:46:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3934] print html bug
In-Reply-To: <bug-3934-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3934-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3934-595-0eNeOJWatb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3934

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
         Resolution|INVALID                     |FIXED

--- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Actually, this is a bug in the Windows port that is already fixed, and the
upcoming release next week will include it.

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws-win32-installer.git;a=commitdiff;h=67e2d374dab415d880074e3b6e17867e82c6d79a

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 12 02:37:26 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 01:37:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3935] New: Build from GIT master broken on arch linux
Message-ID: <bug-3935-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3935

            Bug ID: 3935
           Summary: Build from GIT master broken on arch linux
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: glitsj16 at gmail.com

Looks like LDAP-related commit
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commit;h=48f72c22f91fbe0d6e872e89bd4dce9d39090e81
breaks the claws-mail build from GIT master on arch linux:
[...]
compose.c: In function ‘_ldap_srv_func’:
compose.c:7100:2: error: unknown type name ‘LdapServer’; did you mean
‘GDBusServer’?
  LdapServer *server = (LdapServer *)data;
  ^~~~~~~~~~
  GDBusServer
compose.c:7100:24: error: ‘LdapServer’ undeclared (first use in this function);
did you mean ‘server’?
  LdapServer *server = (LdapServer *)data;
                        ^~~~~~~~~~
                        server
compose.c:7100:24: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for
each function it appears in
compose.c:7100:36: error: expected expression before ‘)’ token
  LdapServer *server = (LdapServer *)data;
                                    ^
compose.c:7103:86: error: request for member ‘control’ in something not a
structure or union
  debug_print("%s server '%s'\n", (*enable == TRUE ? "enabling" : "disabling"),
server->control->hostName);
                                                                               
      ^~
compose.c:7104:8: error: request for member ‘searchFlag’ in something not a
structure or union
  server->searchFlag = *enable;
        ^~
compose.c: In function ‘compose_destroy’:
compose.c:9102:25: error: ‘Compose {aka struct _Compose}’ has no member named
‘passworded_ldap_servers’
  g_slist_foreach(compose->passworded_ldap_servers,
                         ^~
compose.c:9104:22: error: ‘Compose {aka struct _Compose}’ has no member named
‘passworded_ldap_servers’
  g_slist_free(compose->passworded_ldap_servers);
                      ^~
make[4]: *** [Makefile:1492: compose.o] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory '/home/glitsj16/.buildzone/00.tmpfs/claws/src'
make[3]: *** [Makefile:1552: all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory '/home/glitsj16/.buildzone/00.tmpfs/claws/src'
make[2]: *** [Makefile:1241: all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/glitsj16/.buildzone/00.tmpfs/claws/src'
make[1]: *** [Makefile:775: all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/glitsj16/.buildzone/00.tmpfs/claws'
make: *** [Makefile:550: all] Error 2

Full log at https://ptpb.pw/rx0v.debug
When reverting the aforementioned commit the build goes fine.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 12 11:06:24 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 10:06:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3936] New: LDAP StartTLS LDAPv3 (port 389) does not
 work for addressbooks
Message-ID: <bug-3936-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3936

            Bug ID: 3936
           Summary: LDAP StartTLS LDAPv3 (port 389) does not work for
                    addressbooks
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.15.1
          Hardware: All
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Address Book/LDAP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: k847354 at keit.eu

Using the same LDAP user's account witch require a password:

- LDAPs  (port 636) with checkbox SSL/TLS checked -> ok
- LDAP   (port 389) with checkbox SSL/TLS and STARTTLS unchecked -> ok
- LDAPv3 (port 389) with checkbox STARTTLS checked -> KO

Using "ldapsearch -H ldap://serverName -Z -D '<DN_of_the_user>' -w"
is working fine, so no LDAP misconfiguration identified.

Looking with packet sniffer: seems that even with the checkbox STARTTLS checked
no STARTTLS is initiate but a standard SSL/TLS connection.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 12 13:44:21 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 12:44:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3935] Build from GIT master broken on arch linux
In-Reply-To: <bug-3935-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3935-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3935-595-enhKG35Cag@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3935

--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
Created attachment 1824
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1824&action=edit
Probable fix

Hi, can you check if the attached patch fixes it for you?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 12 14:24:23 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 13:24:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3935] Build from GIT master broken on arch linux
In-Reply-To: <bug-3935-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3935-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3935-595-ptAE4cklDR@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3935

--- Comment #2 from glitsj16 at gmail.com ---
@Ricardo:

 Hi, confirming the attached patch does fix things. Really appreciate your
speedy reply and solution. Many thanks and all the best.

Regards

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 12 18:32:21 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 17:32:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3935] Build from GIT master broken on arch linux
In-Reply-To: <bug-3935-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3935-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3935-595-qCRvY4Ruua@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3935

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #3 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2017-12-12 18:30:02.806534479 +0100
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=d7c2b57323c923e9c493180f11c2a7e25604309c
Merge: 4e2f656 5b7108e
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Tue Dec 12 18:30:02 2017 +0100

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=5b7108e97efe38ce7888b3af90a302e32c01c91e
Author: Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
Date:   Tue Dec 12 18:27:23 2017 +0100

    Fix bug 3935: build from GIT master broken on arch linux

    Completes 48f72c22f91fbe0d6e872e89bd4dce9d39090e81 to allow building
    with disabled LDAP support.

--- Comment #4 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
You're welcome! Thanks for the feedback.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 14 01:07:50 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 00:07:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3936] LDAP StartTLS LDAPv3 (port 389) does not work
 for addressbooks
In-Reply-To: <bug-3936-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3936-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3936-595-mSdR6b1zFH@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3936

--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #0)
> Using the same LDAP user's account witch require a password:
> 
> - LDAPs  (port 636) with checkbox SSL/TLS checked -> ok
> - LDAP   (port 389) with checkbox SSL/TLS and STARTTLS unchecked -> ok
> - LDAPv3 (port 389) with checkbox STARTTLS checked -> KO

Which is the status of SSL/TLS checkbox in the third case?

> Using "ldapsearch -H ldap://serverName -Z -D '<DN_of_the_user>' -w"
> is working fine, so no LDAP misconfiguration identified.
> 
> Looking with packet sniffer: seems that even with the checkbox STARTTLS
> checked no STARTTLS is initiate but a standard SSL/TLS connection.

Looking at current code STARTTLS is not initiated if SSL/TLS checkbox is
enabled, so you may try to disable it and see if it works.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 14 09:28:16 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 08:28:16 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3936] LDAP StartTLS LDAPv3 (port 389) does not work
 for addressbooks
In-Reply-To: <bug-3936-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3936-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3936-595-v7S2rbmLtr@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3936

--- Comment #2 from k847354 at keit.eu ---
The two checkbox "SSL/TLS" and "STARTTLS" can't be checked together:

- when "STARTTLS" is checked, "SSL/TLS" is grey, so you can't enable it.
- In the same way when "SSL/TLS" is checked, "STARTTLS" is grey, so you can't
enable it.

This is behaviours is totally normal.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 14 12:06:52 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 11:06:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3936] LDAP StartTLS LDAPv3 (port 389) does not work
 for addressbooks
In-Reply-To: <bug-3936-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3936-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3936-595-M0GlxOAAmQ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3936

--- Comment #3 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
Created attachment 1825
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1825&action=edit
Probably better URI for LDAP with STARTTLS

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 14 12:09:04 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 11:09:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3936] LDAP StartTLS LDAPv3 (port 389) does not work
 for addressbooks
In-Reply-To: <bug-3936-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3936-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3936-595-FJ3ueH1LRB@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3936

--- Comment #4 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #2)
> The two checkbox "SSL/TLS" and "STARTTLS" can't be checked together:
> 
> - when "STARTTLS" is checked, "SSL/TLS" is grey, so you can't enable it.
> - In the same way when "SSL/TLS" is checked, "STARTTLS" is grey, so you
> can't enable it.
> 
> This is behaviours is totally normal.

Heh, that happens when you only look at the code and not at UI ;-)

I don't have a STARTTLS enabled LDAP server at hand, so, can you check if
attached patch fixes the issue for you?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 14 14:33:02 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 13:33:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3936] LDAP StartTLS LDAPv3 (port 389) does not work
 for addressbooks
In-Reply-To: <bug-3936-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3936-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3936-595-0VJeUoNNoz@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3936

--- Comment #5 from k847354 at keit.eu ---
The code modification in attachment 1825 get this result from LDAP logs:

conn=1961 fd=41 ACCEPT from IP=...
conn=1961 op=0 EXT oid=1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.20037
conn=1961 op=0 STARTTLS
conn=1961 op=0 RESULT oid= err=0 text=
conn=1961 fd=41 TLS established tls_ssf=256 ssf=256
conn=1961 op=1 EXT oid=1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.20037
conn=1961 op=1 STARTTLS
conn=1961 op=1 RESULT oid= err=1 text=TLS already started

=> So it is better but not sufficient. To get more clues, when i do
something like:

ldapwhoami -H ldap://servername -Z -D "userDN" -W

Here is the LDAP logs:

conn=1963 fd=42 ACCEPT from IP=...
conn=1963 op=0 EXT oid=1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.20037
conn=1963 op=0 STARTTLS
conn=1963 op=0 RESULT oid= err=0 text=
conn=1963 fd=42 TLS established tls_ssf=256 ssf=256
conn=1963 op=1 BIND dn=... method=128
conn=1963 op=1 BIND dn=... mech=SIMPLE ssf=0
RESULT tag=97 err=0 text=
EXT oid=1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.11.3
WHOAMI
RESULT oid= err=0 text=
UNBIND
closed

=> So something is wrong in sequencing the connection.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 14 17:45:19 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 16:45:19 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3936] LDAP StartTLS LDAPv3 (port 389) does not work
 for addressbooks
In-Reply-To: <bug-3936-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3936-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3936-595-L3oYtoUYRK@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3936

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Attachment #1825|0                           |1
        is obsolete|                            |

--- Comment #6 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
Created attachment 1826
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1826&action=edit
Even better URIs for LDAP with STARTTLS

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 14 17:47:17 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 16:47:17 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3936] LDAP StartTLS LDAPv3 (port 389) does not work
 for addressbooks
In-Reply-To: <bug-3936-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3936-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3936-595-dC81qjfD6F@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3936

--- Comment #7 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #5)
> The code modification in attachment 1825 [details] get this result from LDAP
> logs:
> 
> conn=1961 fd=41 ACCEPT from IP=...
> conn=1961 op=0 EXT oid=1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.20037
> conn=1961 op=0 STARTTLS
> conn=1961 op=0 RESULT oid= err=0 text=
> conn=1961 fd=41 TLS established tls_ssf=256 ssf=256
> conn=1961 op=1 EXT oid=1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.20037
> conn=1961 op=1 STARTTLS
> conn=1961 op=1 RESULT oid= err=1 text=TLS already started
> 
> => So it is better but not sufficient. To get more clues, when i do
> something like:
[...] 
> => So something is wrong in sequencing the connection.

Yep, patch was doing STARTTLS twice. I've updated the patch to do it only once.

Please try again ;-)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 15 12:11:39 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 11:11:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3936] LDAP StartTLS LDAPv3 (port 389) does not work
 for addressbooks
In-Reply-To: <bug-3936-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3936

--- Comment #8 from k847354 at keit.eu ---
I have tested patch attachment 1826 but now there is no STARTTLS any more.

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From shai at platonix.com  Sun Dec 17 01:01:08 2017
From: shai at platonix.com (Shai Berger)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2017 02:01:08 +0200
Subject: [Users] Surprising actions behavior
Message-ID: <20171217020108.2a6aa3bb.shai@platonix.com>

Hi all,

I see some behaviors around actions, which I find surprising. I looked
for settings to fix these, but couldn't find them, and I want to ask
for your opinion before opening tickets and/or trying to fix them.

The version is 3.15.1 on Debian Testing, I compiled it myself in order
to include the Fancy plugin but other than that it's the released
version.

In no particular order, here they are:

1) There seems to be no logging of actions available. I configured some
action, and it didn't do what I expected, and I had to debug by
guessing.

2) "stop" is available as a filter-action when configuring Actions. It
really makes sense only in filters. I'm not sure if putting it in the
end of a list of actions causes any problems, because of no logging.

3) I defined a mark-as-spam action using a filter-action, to do the
following:
- Execute a command (train my Bayesian filter that it's spam)
- Mark the message read
- Mark the message as spam
- Move the message to the junk folder
This looked like it did the first three, but failed to move the message
to the junk folder. At first, there was a "stop" in the end (because
the action was originally translated from a KMail filter), I removed it
and it didn't change anything. Then I tried to promote the "move"
operation so it ran earlier in the sequence.
3a) In the filter-action editor, I could move it wherever I liked, but
when I pressed OK, it wouldn't move before the mark_as_read.
3b) So I had the actions ordered as "execute, mark_as_read, move,
mark_as_spam" -- and now the messages are moved, but not marked as
spam. Is the filter-action in Actions limited to 3 actions only?

4) As noted, the action above includes a "move" operation, which means
that when it ends, the previously-selected message is no longer in the
active folder. I'd expect the next or previous message in the list to
be selected, like what happens when a message is deleted; but instead,
the selection jumped to the first unread message in the folder. In case
this matters, my preference for "selection when entering a new folder"
is "last message opened; none".

Is any of the above expected behavior? Assuming not, are there easy
ways to fix, or work around them?

Thanks, and sorry for the length,
Shai.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 17 13:18:56 2017
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2017 12:18:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.16.0 unleashed!!!!
Message-ID: <20171217121856.0a7bc920@kujata>

17th December 2017                                  Claws Mail 3.16.0

		    CLAWS MAIL  RELEASE NOTES
                    http://www.claws-mail.org

Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast 
email client.

New in this release:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

* Preferences: for the 'default selection on entering a folder' on
  the Display/Summaries page, the first new, first unread, and first
  marked message options are now sort-order aware.

* Preferences: the previously hidden preference to 'Warn when sending
  to more recipients than []' has been added to the
  Mail Handling/Sending page.

* Preferences: Toolbars/Compose window: Sign/Encrypt toggle buttons
  can been added to the toolbar.

* Preferences: Fancy Plugin: allow stylesheet file/folder names to
  have spaces in them.

* Account Preferences: a 'Show password' checkbox has been added next
  to the password fields.

* Account Preferences: the OpenPGP and S/MIME preferences have been
  split into two separate pages.

* Account Preferences: newline characters are disallowed in account
  usernames and passwords, and warnings are shown to the user if this
  is attempted.

* Compose: more UTF-8 list-item characters have been added.

* Address book: a 'Show password' checkbox has been added next to the
  LDAP server 'bind password' field.

* GPG: full key/signature fingerprints are now shown instead of the
  short versions.

* SSL Certificate Manager: added support for ipv6 addresses.

* NNTP: Fetch XOVER and XHDR data in batches of 5000 and use the
  statusbar progress meter when opening/refreshing a NNTP folder.

* CLI: the --insert option has been added to --compose, to allow
  inserting files from the command line.

* Plugins window: keyboard shortcuts to Load/Unload buttons have
  been added.

* PDF Viewer Plugin: a print button has been added.

* The HTML parser now supports all entities.

* Tools: a simple bash completion helper has been added,
  tools/bash_completion/claws-mail.

* Updated translations: Brazilian Portuguese, Catalan, Czech, Danish,
	Dutch, Finnish, French, German, Hungarian, Italian,
	Norwegian Bokmål, Russian, Slovak, Spanish, Swedish, Turkish.

* New translations: Japanese, Polish, Romanian.

* Bug fixes:
	o bug 3266, 'procmime.c: FILE leak in specific circumstances'
	o bug 3784, 'Very similar strings in src/gtk/about.c'
	o bug 3793, 'Segfaults when master passphrase dialog is
		     launched in the middle of autocompletion'
	o bug 3795, 'Fix typo in utils.c'
	o bug 3796, 'Fix format-security warnings in alertpanel_ use'
	o bug 3797, 'Unfold quoting renders quotes completely
		     confusing'
	o bug 3801, 'Broken auto wrapping'
	o bug 3808, 'vCalendar plugin does not load due to undefined
		     symbol icaltime_from_timet'
	o bug 3813, '"mouse up" activates link even if "mouse down"
		     occurred outside the link / cannot copy link
		     text'
	o bug 3814, 'end of mouse drag or text selection erroneously
		     activates links'
	o bug 3819, 'Duplicate definition of global pygtk symbols'
	o bug 3821, 'Potential security issue with libetpan code in
		     mailmbox plugin'
	o bug 3916, 'message view shows wrong message contents'
	o bug 3843, 'Non-functional "Change to..." command in
		     Spelling menu'
	o bug 3852, 'delete header entry button doesn't restore
		     colour'
	o bug 3881, 'Hide Read Threads eats emails'
	o bug 3886, '"About to send mail to 2 recipients" warning
		     when one of them is Reply-To'
	o bug 3892, 'build fails with enchant-2.1.0'
	o bug 3893, 'Text mode open/copy web links ignores trailing
		     tilde(s)'
	o bug 3924, 'Fix configuration of sieve plugin on FreeBSD
		     (segfaulted)'
	o bug 3931, 'segfault searching server with master password'
	o off-by-one error in textview's quote unfolding
	o Make sure outgoing messages have a trailing newline
	o 'add_to_addressbook' filtering action correctly add the
	  name
	o improved handling of bad filenames get_serverport() in
	  ssl_manager.c
	o building against older webkitgtk versions
	o crash in mailimf_group_parse() in mailmbox plugin
	o missing invalid regexp indication in folder preferences.
	o truncated input widgets in preferences window
	o ignore_thread not marking complete thread
	o buffer length handling in GnuTLS password encryption and
	  decryption
	o many memory leaks

For further details of the numbered bugs and RFEs listed above
see http://claws-mail.org/bug/[BUG NUMBER]

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From chrisretusn at bluehome.net  Mon Dec 18 03:35:53 2017
From: chrisretusn at bluehome.net (Chris Schrauben)
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 10:35:53 +0800
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.16.0 unleashed!!!!
In-Reply-To: <20171217121856.0a7bc920@kujata>
References: <20171217121856.0a7bc920@kujata>
Message-ID: <20171218103553.1260a53e@racermach.home.lan>

On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 12:18:56 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> 17th December 2017                                  Claws Mail 3.16.0
> 
> * Account Preferences: a 'Show password' checkbox has been added next
>   to the password fields.
> 	o bug 3808, 'vCalendar plugin does not load due to undefined
> 		     symbol icaltime_from_timet'

Perfect timing. I found my self having to recompile Claws Mail after
some library upgrades to Slackware-current. Ran into bug 3808, in my
quest for possible patches I found that Claws Mail was just updated
yesterday with a fix.

Awesome update, really like the show password checkbox.
Thanks!
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec 18 10:31:45 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 09:31:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3936] LDAP StartTLS LDAPv3 (port 389) does not work
 for addressbooks
In-Reply-To: <bug-3936-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3936-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3936-595-MnAk9PO1Sm@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3936

--- Comment #9 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #8)
> I have tested patch attachment 1826 [details] but now there is no STARTTLS
> any more.

That's a bit strange. With the binary which has the patch applied can you run
"/path/to/your/claws-mail --debug > debug.log 2>&1", test connection to your
LDAP and attach the debug.log file to this bug?

Thanks in advance,

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec 18 12:05:24 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 11:05:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3921] Follow-up to #3764. Cleanup gitignore
In-Reply-To: <bug-3921-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3921-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3921-595-7ZQxpCwEKI@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3921

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2017-12-18 12:05:03.074886035 +0100
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=f03a6d41d7d348c3c7b8bdf21595f7d8dd0955cb
Merge: cdcbdae 2933a88
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Mon Dec 18 12:05:02 2017 +0100

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=2933a88155c211d513134d0f6715e0024940c08f
Author: Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
Date:   Mon Dec 18 12:02:14 2017 +0100

    Fix bug 3921: Follow-up to #3764. Cleanup gitignore

    Thanks Flo for the patch, but sed -i '/libical/libical/d' .gitignore
    was faster than applying the patch itself ;-)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec 18 12:18:48 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 11:18:48 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3936] LDAP StartTLS LDAPv3 (port 389) does not work
 for addressbooks
In-Reply-To: <bug-3936-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3936-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3936-595-7pNLozEwXT@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3936

--- Comment #10 from k847354 at keit.eu ---
Created attachment 1827
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1827&action=edit
Test STARTTLS ok with pacth code in attachment 1826

I have tested again patch code in attachment 1826 and now it is working!
(I should have made a mistake the previous time, sorry)

Here is debug logs, to confirm that it is working for STARTTLS.
Thanks

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From lfisk at iserv.net  Mon Dec 18 13:43:59 2017
From: lfisk at iserv.net (Leon Fisk)
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 08:43:59 -0400
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.16.0 unleashed!!!!
In-Reply-To: <20171217121856.0a7bc920@kujata>
References: <20171217121856.0a7bc920@kujata>
Message-ID: <201712181244.vBICi0YC017155@mail5.iserv.net>

On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 12:18:56 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

>17th December 2017                                  Claws Mail 3.16.0
<snip>

Tried building this on an old Ubuntu system running 10.04.

Up to this point it has always built okay. I don't build a lot of the
plugins that would probably cause problems.

Here is the tail-end of the output where it errors out:

===
Making all in .
addr_compl.c: In function ‘addrcompl_clear_queue’:
addr_compl.c:1132: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘g_list_free_full’
compose.c: In function ‘compose_force_encryption’:
compose.c:1331: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘g_slist_free_full’
imap.c: In function ‘imap_fetch_msg_full’:
imap.c:1572: warning: format ‘%zd’ expects type ‘signed size_t’, but argument 3 has type ‘goffset’
imap.c: In function ‘imap_is_msg_fully_cached’:
imap.c:1675: warning: format ‘%zd’ expects type ‘signed size_t’, but argument 4 has type ‘goffset’
ldapctrl.c: In function ‘ldapctl_full_attribute_array’:
ldapctrl.c:642: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘g_list_free_full’
libtool: link: gcc -g -O2 -Wno-unused-function -Wno-pointer-sign -Wall -pthread -I/usr/include/enchant -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -Wl,--export-dynamic -o .libs/claws-mail account.o action.o addrcache.o addr_compl.o addressadd.o addrgather.o addrharvest.o addritem.o advsearch.o alertpanel.o autofaces.o avatars.o codeconv.o compose.o crash.o customheader.o displayheader.o edittags.o enriched.o entity.o export.o file_checker.o filtering.o folder.o folder_item_prefs.o foldersel.o folderutils.o folderview.o grouplistdialog.o headerview.o html.o image_viewer.o imap.o imap_gtk.o import.o inc.o localfolder.o main.o mainwindow.o manual.o matcher.o matcher_parser_lex.o matcher_parser_parse.o mbox.o message_search.o messageview.o mh.o mh_gtk.o mimeview.o msgcache.o news.o news_gtk.o noticeview.o partial_download.o password.o password_gtk.o passwordstore.o pop.o prefs_account.o prefs_actions.o prefs_common.o prefs_compose_writing.o prefs_customheader.o prefs_display_header.o prefs_ext_prog.o prefs_filtering_action.o prefs_filtering.o prefs_folder_item.o prefs_fonts.o prefs_gtk.o prefs_image_viewer.o prefs_logging.o prefs_matcher.o prefs_message.o prefs_migration.o prefs_msg_colors.o prefs_other.o prefs_quote.o prefs_receive.o prefs_send.o prefs_spelling.o prefs_summaries.o prefs_summary_column.o prefs_summary_open.o prefs_folder_column.o prefs_template.o prefs_themes.o prefs_toolbar.o prefs_wrapping.o printing.o privacy.o procheader.o procmime.o procmsg.o quote_fmt.o quote_fmt_lex.o quote_fmt_parse.o recv.o remotefolder.o send_message.o setup.o sourcewindow.o ssl_manager.o statusbar.o stock_pixmap.o summary_search.o summaryview.o textview.o toolbar.o undo.o unmime.o uri_opener.o wizard.o addrbook.o addrclip.o addrcustomattr.o addressbook.o addressbook_foldersel.o addrindex.o addrquery.o addrselect.o addrduplicates.o browseldap.o editaddress.o editaddress_other_attributes_ldap.o editbook.o editgroup.o editjpilot.o editldap_basedn.o editldap.o editvcard.o exphtmldlg.o expldifdlg.o exporthtml.o exportldif.o importldif.o importmutt.o importpine.o jpilot.o ldapctrl.o ldaplocate.o ldapquery.o ldapserver.o ldapupdate.o ldaputil.o ldif.o mutt.o pine.o vcard.o -pthread -pthread -pthread -pthread -pthread  etpan/.libs/libclawsetpan.a -L/usr/lib gtk/.libs/libclawsgtk.a -lcrypt /usr/lib/libenchant.so /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so /usr/lib/libgio-2.0.so /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so /usr/lib/libcairo.so /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so /usr/lib/libfreetype.so -lfontconfig /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so -lnsl -llber -lldap /usr/lib/libgnutls.so -lcompface /usr/lib/libpisock.so /usr/lib/libusb.so /usr/lib/libbluetooth.so -lSM -lICE -lstartup-notification-1 -L/lib -ldbus-glib-1 -ldbus-1 -lpthread /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so -lrt /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so -lm /usr/lib/libetpan.so -ldb-4.8 -lz -llockfile /usr/lib/libsasl2.so -ldl -lresolv -lssl -lcrypto -pthread
addr_compl.o: In function `addrcompl_clear_queue':
/usr/local/src/claws-mail-3.16.0/src/addr_compl.c:1132: undefined reference to `g_list_free_full'
compose.o: In function `compose_force_encryption':
/usr/local/src/claws-mail-3.16.0/src/compose.c:1331: undefined reference to `g_slist_free_full'
/usr/local/src/claws-mail-3.16.0/src/compose.c:1331: undefined reference to `g_slist_free_full'
ldapctrl.o: In function `ldapctl_full_attribute_array':
/usr/local/src/claws-mail-3.16.0/src/ldapctrl.c:642: undefined reference to `g_list_free_full'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[4]: *** [claws-mail] Error 1
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make: *** [all] Error 2
===

Any ideas to fix this or should I just count my blessings and stay with 3.15.0?

-- 
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Claws 3.15.0, Ubuntu Lucid


From andrej at kacian.sk  Mon Dec 18 14:31:54 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 14:31:54 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.16.0 unleashed!!!!
In-Reply-To: <201712181244.vBICi0YC017155@mail5.iserv.net>
References: <20171217121856.0a7bc920@kujata>
 <201712181244.vBICi0YC017155@mail5.iserv.net>
Message-ID: <20171218143154.19984c30@penny>

On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 08:43:59 -0400
Leon Fisk <lfisk at iserv.net> wrote:

> Any ideas to fix this or should I just count my blessings and stay with 3.15.0?

It seems that glib-2.0 headers on your system are either corrupted or
missing completely. The functions and symbols in these errors come from
this library.

Furthermore, the final linking command is missing "-lglib-2.0". What
does this command say?

pkg-config --libs --cflags glib-2.0

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From lfisk at iserv.net  Mon Dec 18 14:48:11 2017
From: lfisk at iserv.net (Leon Fisk)
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 09:48:11 -0400
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.16.0 unleashed!!!!
In-Reply-To: <20171218143154.19984c30@penny>
References: <20171217121856.0a7bc920@kujata>
 <201712181244.vBICi0YC017155@mail5.iserv.net>
 <20171218143154.19984c30@penny>
Message-ID: <201712181348.vBIDmAHF008542@mail2.iserv.net>

On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 14:31:54 +0100
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

>On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 08:43:59 -0400
>Leon Fisk <lfisk at iserv.net> wrote:
>
>> Any ideas to fix this or should I just count my blessings and stay with 3.15.0?  
>
>It seems that glib-2.0 headers on your system are either corrupted or
>missing completely. The functions and symbols in these errors come from
>this library.
>
>Furthermore, the final linking command is missing "-lglib-2.0". What
>does this command say?
>
>pkg-config --libs --cflags glib-2.0

I'm sure they're there, been building lots of stuff through the
years. Could easily be missing something else though included in newer
systems :)

os at os:/usr/local/src/claws-mail-3.16.0$ pkg-config --libs --cflags glib-2.0
-I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include  -lglib-2.0

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Claws 3.15.0, Ubuntu Lucid


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec 18 15:37:03 2017
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 14:37:03 +0000
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.16.0 unleashed!!!!
In-Reply-To: <201712181244.vBICi0YC017155@mail5.iserv.net>
References: <20171217121856.0a7bc920@kujata>
 <201712181244.vBICi0YC017155@mail5.iserv.net>
Message-ID: <20171218143703.22c59330@kujata>

On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 08:43:59 -0400
Leon Fisk <lfisk at iserv.net> wrote: 

> Tried building this on an old Ubuntu system running 10.04.

Your version of ubuntu is not even supported by ubuntu any more.

with regards

Paul


From lfisk at iserv.net  Mon Dec 18 20:42:37 2017
From: lfisk at iserv.net (Leon Fisk)
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 15:42:37 -0400
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.16.0 unleashed!!!!
In-Reply-To: <20171218143154.19984c30@penny>
References: <20171217121856.0a7bc920@kujata>
 <201712181244.vBICi0YC017155@mail5.iserv.net>
 <20171218143154.19984c30@penny>
Message-ID: <201712181942.vBIJgY18031997@mail5.iserv.net>

On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 14:31:54 +0100
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

>It seems that glib-2.0 headers on your system are either corrupted or
>missing completely. The functions and symbols in these errors come from
>this library.
<snip>

Andrej, thanks for replying. Some more info that may help.

If I edit a couple files to get rid of the previously listed
declaration warnings it builds okay:

===
addr_compl.c:1132: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘g_list_free_full’
compose.c:1331: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘g_slist_free_full’
ldapctrl.c:642: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘g_list_free_full’
===

I just compared the files to old 3.15.0 and made the spots referencing
those functions read the same. Not a good fix by any means...

I don't build all the plugins. Maybe a missing declaration is being picked up there?
I'm a complete amateur at this but something doesn't seem right in those
files for "g_list_free_full" and "‘g_slist_free_full".

Here is the plugin output from configure:

===
claws-mail 3.16.0

Using Address Book : Original stable interface
JPilot             : yes
LDAP               : yes
gnuTLS             : yes
iconv              : yes
compface           : yes
IPv6               : yes
enchant            : yes
IMAP4              : yes
NNTP               : yes
Crash dialog       : no
LibSM              : yes
DBUS               : yes
NetworkManager     : yes
Manual             : no
Generic UMPC code  : no
SVG support        : no
Config dir         : .claws-mail
Password crypto    : old
Plugins
   Built:
            - archive
            - att_remover
            - attachwarner
            - libravatar
            - notification
                Features:
                    banner
                    command
                    hotkeys
                    lcdproc
                    libnotify
                    libcanberra-gtk
                    popup
                    trayicon
                Disabled due to missing dependencies:
                    unity/messaging-menu
            - perl
            - python
            - pgpcore
            - pgpmime
            - smime
   Disabled:
            - acpi_notifier
            - address_keeper
            - bogofilter
            - bsfilter
            - clamd
            - demo
            - fancy
            - fetchinfo
            - gdata
            - mailmbox
            - managesieve
            - newmail
            - pdf_viewer
            - pgpinline
            - rssyl
            - spamassassin
            - spam_report
            - tnef_parse
            - vcalendar

The binary will be installed in /usr/bin
===

-- 
Leon
Claws 3.15.0, Ubuntu Lucid


From andrej at kacian.sk  Mon Dec 18 21:32:45 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 21:32:45 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.16.0 unleashed!!!!
In-Reply-To: <201712181942.vBIJgY18031997@mail5.iserv.net>
References: <20171217121856.0a7bc920@kujata>
 <201712181244.vBICi0YC017155@mail5.iserv.net>
 <20171218143154.19984c30@penny>
 <201712181942.vBIJgY18031997@mail5.iserv.net>
Message-ID: <20171218213245.7bb40b29@penny>

On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 15:42:37 -0400
Leon Fisk <lfisk at iserv.net> wrote:

> I just compared the files to old 3.15.0 and made the spots referencing
> those functions read the same. Not a good fix by any means...
> 
> I don't build all the plugins. Maybe a missing declaration is being picked up there?
> I'm a complete amateur at this but something doesn't seem right in those
> files for "g_list_free_full" and "‘g_slist_free_full".

Actually, Paul found the issue - your glib version is too old, function
g_list_free_full was added in 2.28, while you only have 2.20.

You definitely should upgrade your OS at this point.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej



From linux at slavino.sk  Mon Dec 18 21:38:46 2017
From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko)
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 21:38:46 +0100
Subject: [Users] CM 3.16 and Selection when entering a folder
Message-ID: <20171218213846.11422acb@bonifac.skk>

Hi,

i have trouble with the new version and the "Selection when entering a
folder" settings.

I use ordering messages by date descending, then the newest messages
are at top of list. I have set, that CM has to select first new or fist
unread message and i expect, that the first is by my ordering, i.e. the
newest new/unread, but CM selects the latest new/unread message.

There are not options to select latest new/unread.

Please, is this desired behavior or bug?

-- 
Slavko
http://slavino.sk
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec 18 21:37:26 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 20:37:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3936] LDAP StartTLS LDAPv3 (port 389) does not work
 for addressbooks
In-Reply-To: <bug-3936-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3936-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3936-595-gD3fwCB18w@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3936

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #11 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2017-12-18 21:22:02.673682976 +0100
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b745cfacefcafbb022baf07604cc8f6d0361e56
Merge: d265708 174c03f
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Mon Dec 18 21:22:02 2017 +0100

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=174c03f1931636ba6a47415619c18ce5af572d69
Author: Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
Date:   Mon Dec 18 21:20:25 2017 +0100

    Fix Bug 3936: LDAP StartTLS does not work for addressbooks

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec 18 22:47:14 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 21:47:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3937] New: autocrypt support
Message-ID: <bug-3937-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3937

            Bug ID: 3937
           Summary: autocrypt support
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: other
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Privacy/PGP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: nin at suremail.info

Please add support for autocrypt:
https://autocrypt.org/en/latest/details.html

Thanks for considering and for claws-mail itself!

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec 18 23:42:30 2017
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 22:42:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] CM 3.16 and Selection when entering a folder
In-Reply-To: <20171218213846.11422acb@bonifac.skk>
References: <20171218213846.11422acb@bonifac.skk>
Message-ID: <20171218224230.410df4cd@kujata>

On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 21:38:46 +0100
Slavko <linux at slavino.sk> wrote: 

> Please, is this desired behavior or bug?

What you want is the opposite of 'first ...', you want 'last ...', so
that's a feature request.

with regards

Paul


From rol at witbe.net  Tue Dec 19 07:57:52 2017
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 07:57:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] CM 3.16 and Selection when entering a folder
In-Reply-To: <20171218224230.410df4cd@kujata>
References: <20171218213846.11422acb@bonifac.skk>
 <20171218224230.410df4cd@kujata>
Message-ID: <20171219075752.76aa8cd4@riri.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello,

On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 22:42:30 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> > Please, is this desired behavior or bug?  
> 
> What you want is the opposite of 'first ...', you want 'last ...', so
> that's a feature request.

I've been fighting with that too before going back to 3.15.1.

Paul, what's the reasoning that leads you (the dev team) to consider that
this should be the _last_ that I want ? When I look at my list, it's at the
top, so it's the first.

Paul

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 19 09:57:16 2017
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 08:57:16 +0000
Subject: [Users] CM 3.16 and Selection when entering a folder
In-Reply-To: <20171219075752.76aa8cd4@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
References: <20171218213846.11422acb@bonifac.skk>
 <20171218224230.410df4cd@kujata>
 <20171219075752.76aa8cd4@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
Message-ID: <20171219085716.19036e4e@kujata>

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 07:57:52 +0100
"Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)" <rol at witbe.net> wrote: 

> Paul, what's the reasoning that leads you (the dev team) to
> consider that this should be the _last_ that I want ? When I look
> at my list, it's at the top, so it's the first.

What's at the top, whether it be newest message or oldest message,
depends on your chosen sort order.

with regards

Paul


From linux at slavino.sk  Tue Dec 19 09:58:49 2017
From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 09:58:49 +0100
Subject: [Users] CM 3.16 and Selection when entering a folder
In-Reply-To: <20171218224230.410df4cd@kujata>
References: <20171218213846.11422acb@bonifac.skk>
 <20171218224230.410df4cd@kujata>
Message-ID: <20171219095849.68a3d15c@bonifac.skk>

Ahoj,

Dňa Mon, 18 Dec 2017 22:42:30 +0000 Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>
napísal:

> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 21:38:46 +0100
> Slavko <linux at slavino.sk> wrote: 
> 
> > Please, is this desired behavior or bug?  
> 
> What you want is the opposite of 'first ...', you want 'last ...', so
> that's a feature request.

Do you really consider first message in my list as last? In our country
the lists are counted from top, not from bottom...

regards

-- 
Slavko
http://slavino.sk
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 19 10:13:37 2017
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 09:13:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] CM 3.16 and Selection when entering a folder
In-Reply-To: <20171219095849.68a3d15c@bonifac.skk>
References: <20171218213846.11422acb@bonifac.skk>
 <20171218224230.410df4cd@kujata>
 <20171219095849.68a3d15c@bonifac.skk>
Message-ID: <20171219091337.4dbd4626@kujata>

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 09:58:49 +0100
Slavko <linux at slavino.sk> wrote: 

> Do you really consider first message in my list as last? In our
> country the lists are counted from top, not from bottom...

That depends on the sort order... but perhaps not in your country?
Your assumption is that 'first' means 'top'.

with regards

Paul


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Tue Dec 19 12:16:35 2017
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 12:16:35 +0100
Subject: [Users] autocrypt
In-Reply-To: <20171208011811.2ea95ca0@gandalf.lan3>
References: <20171201165131.629d6153@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171204101540.4915d467.andrej@kacian.sk>
 <20171204111504.382e4657@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20171204171422.2c7960c9@kujata>
 <20171204191701.1201a1f8@acer-suse.lan>
 <20171204153139.69dca610@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20171207201921.45814ecd@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171207210453.6f9a2aa1@bonifac.skk>
 <20171208011811.2ea95ca0@gandalf.lan3>
Message-ID: <20171219121635.3baa241f@gandalf.lan3>

My Email Provider sent a mail today about how they are supporting autocrypt now.


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Tue Dec 19 12:48:25 2017
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 12:48:25 +0100
Subject: [Users] autocrypt
In-Reply-To: <20171219121635.3baa241f@gandalf.lan3>
References: <20171201165131.629d6153@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171204101540.4915d467.andrej@kacian.sk>
 <20171204111504.382e4657@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20171204171422.2c7960c9@kujata>
 <20171204191701.1201a1f8@acer-suse.lan>
 <20171204153139.69dca610@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20171207201921.45814ecd@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171207210453.6f9a2aa1@bonifac.skk>
 <20171208011811.2ea95ca0@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171219121635.3baa241f@gandalf.lan3>
Message-ID: <20171219124825.708f6066@gandalf.lan3>


For those who don't like to read it up, the core is that autocrypt exchanges public PGP keys 'in the background' (i.e. in headers) communication with a first, empty mail sent between the communication partners. After that, following communication with that partner uses that key. 
From user side, if you send a mail to someone whos MUA also is supporting autocrypt, the communication will be encrypted automaticly without configuration.

You might aks what's the providers role (when normally the thing is done between MUA) ? Here are some details.

(1) They will be adding an autocrypt header for senders whose MUA does not support it yet.  (For that to work, they need the user to upload their PGP key to the provider first, see below.) If a MUA has already added autocrypt header, they won't touch it.

(2) Also, that provider says they generally add DKIM signature to the autocrypted communication to prevent 'man-in-the-middle' manipulation.

(3) They offer automatic encryption of any incoming mails, even if they're not encrypted by sender.

(4) They also support a OpenPGP-Header which contains links for recipients where to find the public key.

Of course, for all that, one has to create a PGP pair first.  You then upload your key(s) to their server from their Web GUI. They give links to descriptions using Enigmail or Mailvelope.

They recommend that MUAs inform users about changes of key or encryption state (on/off).




From dave at howorth.org.uk  Tue Dec 19 12:58:50 2017
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 11:58:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] CM 3.16 and Selection when entering a folder
In-Reply-To: <20171219095849.68a3d15c@bonifac.skk>
References: <20171218213846.11422acb@bonifac.skk>
 <20171218224230.410df4cd@kujata>
 <20171219095849.68a3d15c@bonifac.skk>
Message-ID: <20171219115850.6b981ffb@acer-suse.lan>

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 09:58:49 +0100
Slavko <linux at slavino.sk> wrote:

> Ahoj,
> 
> Dňa Mon, 18 Dec 2017 22:42:30 +0000 Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>
> napísal:
> 
> > On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 21:38:46 +0100
> > Slavko <linux at slavino.sk> wrote: 
> >   
> > > Please, is this desired behavior or bug?    
> > 
> > What you want is the opposite of 'first ...', you want 'last ...',
> > so that's a feature request.  
> 
> Do you really consider first message in my list as last? In our
> country the lists are counted from top, not from bottom...

There's an ambiguity in the meaning of 'first' and 'last', in
particular in terms of what they apply to. In your mind you see them
applying to the presentation order on screen. In Paul's mind he sees
them as applicable to the order in which the messages arrived.

Short of making the description a lot longer and thereby unambiguous,
or changing it to be perhaps 'top' or 'earliest' and thus hopefully more
descriptive of the attribute it describes and less descriptive of the
attribute it doesn't describe, I think it's something people just have
to learn the meaning of. As ever, writing code carries extra votes!


From rol at witbe.net  Tue Dec 19 13:13:22 2017
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 13:13:22 +0100
Subject: [Users] CM 3.16 and Selection when entering a folder
In-Reply-To: <20171219115850.6b981ffb@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20171218213846.11422acb@bonifac.skk>
 <20171218224230.410df4cd@kujata>
 <20171219095849.68a3d15c@bonifac.skk>
 <20171219115850.6b981ffb@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20171219131322.056b524f@riri.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello,

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 11:58:50 +0000
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:

> There's an ambiguity in the meaning of 'first' and 'last', in
> particular in terms of what they apply to. In your mind you see them
> applying to the presentation order on screen. In Paul's mind he sees
> them as applicable to the order in which the messages arrived.
> 
> Short of making the description a lot longer and thereby unambiguous,
> or changing it to be perhaps 'top' or 'earliest' and thus hopefully more
> descriptive of the attribute it describes and less descriptive of the
> attribute it doesn't describe, I think it's something people just have
> to learn the meaning of. As ever, writing code carries extra votes!

I totally agree....

Rol

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 19 13:20:25 2017
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 12:20:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] CM 3.16 and Selection when entering a folder
In-Reply-To: <20171219115850.6b981ffb@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20171218213846.11422acb@bonifac.skk>
 <20171218224230.410df4cd@kujata>
 <20171219095849.68a3d15c@bonifac.skk>
 <20171219115850.6b981ffb@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20171219122025.3b170cc5@kujata>

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 11:58:50 +0000
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote: 

> There's an ambiguity in the meaning of 'first' and 'last', in
> particular in terms of what they apply to. In your mind you see them
> applying to the presentation order on screen. In Paul's mind he sees
> them as applicable to the order in which the messages arrived.
> 
> Short of making the description a lot longer and thereby
> unambiguous, or changing it to be perhaps 'top' or 'earliest' and
> thus hopefully more descriptive of the attribute it describes and
> less descriptive of the attribute it doesn't describe, I think it's
> something people just have to learn the meaning of. As ever,
> writing code carries extra votes!

Just before your message I made changes to the code in GIT.

Rather than earliest/latest I chose oldest/newest, both of which are
better than first/last.

I also added extra options for 'newest marked', 'newest new' and
'newest unread' messages.

with regards

Paul


From lfisk at iserv.net  Tue Dec 19 13:22:26 2017
From: lfisk at iserv.net (Leon Fisk)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 08:22:26 -0400
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.16.0 unleashed!!!!
In-Reply-To: <20171218213245.7bb40b29@penny>
References: <20171217121856.0a7bc920@kujata>
 <201712181244.vBICi0YC017155@mail5.iserv.net>
 <20171218143154.19984c30@penny>
 <201712181942.vBIJgY18031997@mail5.iserv.net>
 <20171218213245.7bb40b29@penny>
Message-ID: <201712191222.vBJCMQnS032701@mail2.iserv.net>

On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 21:32:45 +0100
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

>On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 15:42:37 -0400
>Leon Fisk <lfisk at iserv.net> wrote:
>
>> I just compared the files to old 3.15.0 and made the spots referencing
>> those functions read the same. Not a good fix by any means...
>> 
>> I don't build all the plugins. Maybe a missing declaration is being picked up there?
>> I'm a complete amateur at this but something doesn't seem right in those
>> files for "g_list_free_full" and "‘g_slist_free_full".  
>
>Actually, Paul found the issue - your glib version is too old, function
>g_list_free_full was added in 2.28, while you only have 2.20.
>
>You definitely should upgrade your OS at this point.

Ah, now I understand where those are meant to come from.

Thanks for the OS advice but not likely to happen. Old computer and it
would be unwise to try getting a new OS to work on it...

-- 
Leon
Claws 3.15.0, Ubuntu Lucid


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Tue Dec 19 14:45:36 2017
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 13:45:36 +0000
Subject: [Users] CM 3.16 and Selection when entering a folder
In-Reply-To: <20171219122025.3b170cc5@kujata>
References: <20171218213846.11422acb@bonifac.skk>
 <20171218224230.410df4cd@kujata>
 <20171219095849.68a3d15c@bonifac.skk>
 <20171219115850.6b981ffb@acer-suse.lan>
 <20171219122025.3b170cc5@kujata>
Message-ID: <20171219134536.000035b6@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 12:20:25 +0000
Paul wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 11:58:50 +0000
> Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote: 
> 
> > There's an ambiguity in the meaning of 'first' and 'last', in
> > particular in terms of what they apply to. In your mind you see them
> > applying to the presentation order on screen. In Paul's mind he sees
> > them as applicable to the order in which the messages arrived.
> > 
> > Short of making the description a lot longer and thereby
> > unambiguous, or changing it to be perhaps 'top' or 'earliest' and
> > thus hopefully more descriptive of the attribute it describes and
> > less descriptive of the attribute it doesn't describe, I think it's
> > something people just have to learn the meaning of. As ever,
> > writing code carries extra votes!  
> 
> Just before your message I made changes to the code in GIT.
> 
> Rather than earliest/latest I chose oldest/newest, both of which are
> better than first/last.
> 
> I also added extra options for 'newest marked', 'newest new' and
> 'newest unread' messages.

Thanks Paul, this is a nice enhancement!

I wonder if the forthcoming Win32 3.16.0 build could be based on this
latest git version?

-- 

Brian Morrison


From andrej at kacian.sk  Tue Dec 19 17:40:17 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 17:40:17 +0100
Subject: [Users] CM 3.16 and Selection when entering a folder
In-Reply-To: <20171219134536.000035b6@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20171218213846.11422acb@bonifac.skk>
 <20171218224230.410df4cd@kujata>
 <20171219095849.68a3d15c@bonifac.skk>
 <20171219115850.6b981ffb@acer-suse.lan>
 <20171219122025.3b170cc5@kujata>
 <20171219134536.000035b6@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20171219174017.6bad6a21@penny>

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 13:45:36 +0000
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

> I wonder if the forthcoming Win32 3.16.0 build could be based on this
> latest git version?

There's a long-standing policy that Windows releases do not get
features ahead of official releases, with exception of Windows-specific
features and bugfixes of course. :)

By the way, the Windows build should be available sometimes tomorrow. I
had a rather unpleasant case of toothache over these past few days, so
I couldn't get to it earlier.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej



From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Tue Dec 19 18:03:05 2017
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 17:03:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] CM 3.16 and Selection when entering a folder
In-Reply-To: <20171219174017.6bad6a21@penny>
References: <20171218213846.11422acb@bonifac.skk>
 <20171218224230.410df4cd@kujata>
 <20171219095849.68a3d15c@bonifac.skk>
 <20171219115850.6b981ffb@acer-suse.lan>
 <20171219122025.3b170cc5@kujata>
 <20171219134536.000035b6@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20171219174017.6bad6a21@penny>
Message-ID: <20171219170305.000074d6@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 17:40:17 +0100
Andrej Kacian wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 13:45:36 +0000
> Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > I wonder if the forthcoming Win32 3.16.0 build could be based on
> > this latest git version?  
> 
> There's a long-standing policy that Windows releases do not get
> features ahead of official releases, with exception of
> Windows-specific features and bugfixes of course. :)

OK, the one I really want fixed is the NNTP folder suddenly refreshing
and losing the article I'm reading. That's no problem in 3.16.0, I
tried the test version at git177 and it keeps hanging and becoming
unresponsive. Back to 3.15.0 for Windows...

> 
> By the way, the Windows build should be available sometimes tomorrow.
> I had a rather unpleasant case of toothache over these past few days,
> so I couldn't get to it earlier.

My condolences, I currently have just finished a 3rd course of
antibiotics to deal with an under-tooth abscess and have had the root
canals filled too. It's no fun!

-- 

Brian Morrison


From yonaton at riseup.net  Tue Dec 19 19:05:07 2017
From: yonaton at riseup.net (yonaton at riseup.net)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 12:05:07 -0600
Subject: [Users] autocrypt
In-Reply-To: <20171219124825.708f6066@gandalf.lan3>
References: <20171201165131.629d6153@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171204101540.4915d467.andrej@kacian.sk>
 <20171204111504.382e4657@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20171204171422.2c7960c9@kujata>
 <20171204191701.1201a1f8@acer-suse.lan>
 <20171204153139.69dca610@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20171207201921.45814ecd@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171207210453.6f9a2aa1@bonifac.skk>
 <20171208011811.2ea95ca0@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171219121635.3baa241f@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171219124825.708f6066@gandalf.lan3>
Message-ID: <20171219120507.753f7132@ACAB.TOSIAR>

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 12:48:25 +0100
Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote:

> For those who don't like to read it up, the core is that autocrypt exchanges
> public PGP keys 'in the background' (i.e. in headers) communication with a
> first, empty mail sent between the communication partners. After that,
> following communication with that partner uses that key. From user side, if
> you send a mail to someone whos MUA also is supporting autocrypt, the
> communication will be encrypted automaticly without configuration.
> 
> You might aks what's the providers role (when normally the thing is done
> between MUA) ? Here are some details.
> 
> (1) They will be adding an autocrypt header for senders whose MUA does not
> support it yet.  (For that to work, they need the user to upload their PGP key
> to the provider first, see below.) If a MUA has already added autocrypt
> header, they won't touch it.
> 
> (2) Also, that provider says they generally add DKIM signature to the
> autocrypted communication to prevent 'man-in-the-middle' manipulation.
> 
> (3) They offer automatic encryption of any incoming mails, even if they're not
> encrypted by sender.
> 
> (4) They also support a OpenPGP-Header which contains links for recipients
> where to find the public key.
> 
> Of course, for all that, one has to create a PGP pair first.  You then upload
> your key(s) to their server from their Web GUI. They give links to
> descriptions using Enigmail or Mailvelope.
> 
> They recommend that MUAs inform users about changes of key or encryption state
> (on/off).
> 
> 

  No. If someone can't already use gpg or pgp, they're too stupid to even own a
  computer and are probably the persons who cause countless other idiots like
  them to get hacked, cracked, spoofed, bugged, and all the other nasty things
  that happen to those idiots.

  If you're all for this, go proselytize it elsewhere, no one has shown any
  interest in it and yet you keep pestering like a fly.

  

-- 
Huh, funny how Homeland Security rhymes with Gestapo.

A: Yes.
Q: Are you sure?
A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
Q: Why is top posting stupid and frowned upon?


From jjk at jjacky.com  Tue Dec 19 13:00:02 2017
From: jjk at jjacky.com (Olivier Brunel)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 13:00:02 +0100
Subject: [Users] CM 3.16 and Selection when entering a folder
In-Reply-To: <20171219085716.19036e4e@kujata>
References: <20171218213846.11422acb@bonifac.skk>
 <20171218224230.410df4cd@kujata>
 <20171219075752.76aa8cd4@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20171219085716.19036e4e@kujata>
Message-ID: <20171219130002.5eef4b30@jjacky.com>

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 08:57:16 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 07:57:52 +0100
> "Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)" <rol at witbe.net> wrote: 
> 
> > Paul, what's the reasoning that leads you (the dev team) to
> > consider that this should be the _last_ that I want ? When I look
> > at my list, it's at the top, so it's the first.  
> 
> What's at the top, whether it be newest message or oldest message,
> depends on your chosen sort order.

Exactly. Which message is first, whether it be newest message or oldest
message, depends on your chosen sort order. Except claws ignores that
(due to sort order awareness)...

You seem to think that sorting desc means having the list still sorted
asc but shown upside down, it doesn't. It simply means the list is
sorting differently, but the first item remains the one on top.


From jjk at jjacky.com  Tue Dec 19 13:00:10 2017
From: jjk at jjacky.com (Olivier Brunel)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 13:00:10 +0100
Subject: [Users] CM 3.16 and Selection when entering a folder
In-Reply-To: <20171219091337.4dbd4626@kujata>
References: <20171218213846.11422acb@bonifac.skk>
 <20171218224230.410df4cd@kujata>
 <20171219095849.68a3d15c@bonifac.skk>
 <20171219091337.4dbd4626@kujata>
Message-ID: <20171219130010.25b1671c@jjacky.com>

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 09:13:37 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 09:58:49 +0100
> Slavko <linux at slavino.sk> wrote: 
> 
> > Do you really consider first message in my list as last? In our
> > country the lists are counted from top, not from bottom...  
> 
> That depends on the sort order... but perhaps not in your country?
> Your assumption is that 'first' means 'top'.

I don't think this is country-related actually, in a sorted list the
first item is the one on top. A sorted list goes from first to last,
from top to bottom.

So when sorting by date asc, the oldest item is first/on top, but when
sorting desc the newest item is first/on top. The issue here is that,
under the so-called "sort order awareness", claws ignores the sort
order (direction) to always have the oldest item be first. (We're all
assuming sorting by date here obviously, even though it could be
something else, in which case this "awareness" means nothing at all).

Specifically, when sorting desc it reverses first/last, prev/next,
etc This is literally what happens in the code.

I believe this was done for people who sort their messages list by date
desc, yet would like the select first/go next features to act on the
list sorted asc. This "sort order awareness" gives such results, so
long as you sort by date ofc.

But obviously not everyone who sorts by date desc want such behavior,
some would rather that first still means first, i.e. the item on top.
This is why I wrote a patch (attached) to add an option, so one could
disable this sort order awareness...

HTH,
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From jjk at jjacky.com  Tue Dec 19 14:25:58 2017
From: jjk at jjacky.com (Olivier Brunel)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 14:25:58 +0100
Subject: [Users] CM 3.16 and Selection when entering a folder
In-Reply-To: <20171219122025.3b170cc5@kujata>
References: <20171218213846.11422acb@bonifac.skk>
 <20171218224230.410df4cd@kujata>
 <20171219095849.68a3d15c@bonifac.skk>
 <20171219115850.6b981ffb@acer-suse.lan>
 <20171219122025.3b170cc5@kujata>
Message-ID: <20171219142558.7dc475fc@jjacky.com>

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 12:20:25 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 11:58:50 +0000
> Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote: 
> 
> > There's an ambiguity in the meaning of 'first' and 'last', in
> > particular in terms of what they apply to. In your mind you see them
> > applying to the presentation order on screen. In Paul's mind he sees
> > them as applicable to the order in which the messages arrived.
> > 
> > Short of making the description a lot longer and thereby
> > unambiguous, or changing it to be perhaps 'top' or 'earliest' and
> > thus hopefully more descriptive of the attribute it describes and
> > less descriptive of the attribute it doesn't describe, I think it's
> > something people just have to learn the meaning of. As ever,
> > writing code carries extra votes!  
> 
> Just before your message I made changes to the code in GIT.
> 
> Rather than earliest/latest I chose oldest/newest, both of which are
> better than first/last.

I believe this is wrong, because it's not what the code actually does.
First/last are better IMHO, because they're actually correct.

Just see for yourself: sort by size. Then it's not the oldest or
newest, it's the smallest/biggest! Because this is linked to the
current sort order of the list.

Have a look in the Sort menu, you'll see there's plenty of options that
aren't date, even no sort at all. For all of them, first/last are
correct, oldest/newest are not.

So now your new labels for those actions are plain wrong for every
one whose sort order isn't by date!
All of this because you're trying to do something (have it work on
messages sorted by date asc no matter what the sort order of the list)
while actually doing something else (using the sort order of the
list).

This is bound to create confusion/issues, not to mention you're not
addressing those of us who'd like to have claws use the sort order of
the list...

I still feel simply adding an option to disable this "sort order
awareness" would resolve the issue, and allow people to have it one way
or the other, as they wishes... (hence my patch.)


From linux at slavino.sk  Tue Dec 19 19:57:21 2017
From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 19:57:21 +0100
Subject: [Users] CM 3.16 and Selection when entering a folder
In-Reply-To: <20171219122025.3b170cc5@kujata>
References: <20171218213846.11422acb@bonifac.skk>
 <20171218224230.410df4cd@kujata>
 <20171219095849.68a3d15c@bonifac.skk>
 <20171219115850.6b981ffb@acer-suse.lan>
 <20171219122025.3b170cc5@kujata>
Message-ID: <20171219195721.2525a2ee@bonifac.skk>

Ahoj,

Dňa Tue, 19 Dec 2017 12:20:25 +0000 Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>
napísal:

> On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 11:58:50 +0000
> Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote: 
> 
> > There's an ambiguity in the meaning of 'first' and 'last', in
> > particular in terms of what they apply to. In your mind you see them
> > applying to the presentation order on screen. In Paul's mind he sees
> > them as applicable to the order in which the messages arrived.

Yes, my English is not enough to deal with these nuances.

> I also added extra options for 'newest marked', 'newest new' and
> 'newest unread' messages.

Thanks. For now i solved it with Select the Last message -- I can live
with it for some time.

regards

-- 
Slavko
http://slavino.sk
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 19 20:11:53 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 19:11:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3902] UI deadlock when trying to exit
In-Reply-To: <bug-3902-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3902-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3902-595-s1ljuYsuZk@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3902

--- Comment #2 from Kostya Vasilyev <kmansoft at gmail.com> ---
OK it happened again and I was running with --debug in the terminal.

I was writing a message (draft) not sure if I'd hit Send yet or not, but:

Claws went into a loop trying to fetch a bunch of non-existent messages from
the "Queue" folder:

imap.c:1554:trying to fetch cached
/home/kman/.claws-mail/imapcache/mail.mobisystems.com/support at aqua-mail.com/INBOX/Queue/12993
imap.c:1600:getting session...
imap.c:529:locking session 0x55ef7b361be0 (0)
imap.c:1610:IMAP fetching messages
imap.c:1621:getting message 12993...
imap-thread.c:2595:imap fetch_content - begin
imap-thread.c:372:found imap 0x55ef7b2cad40
imap-thread.c:372:found imap 0x55ef7b2cad40
[21:57:25] IMAP> 4651 UID FETCH 12993 BODY.PEEK[] 
[21:57:25] IMAP< [data - 47 bytes]
imap-thread.c:2584:imap fetch_content run - end 25
imap-thread.c:388:generic_cb
imap-thread.c:372:found imap 0x55ef7b2cad40

** (claws-mail:16534): WARNING **: [21:57:25] IMAP error on
mail.mobisystems.com: FETCH error

imap.c:542:unlocking session 0x55ef7b361be0
imap.c:4324:fetch err 25

(claws-mail:16534): Claws-Mail-WARNING **: can't fetch message 12993

where the message's UID would increment and increment and increment.

The loop finished when the UID reached 13054 (doesn't seem special in any
way...) and the UI un-froze.

The server's Inbox.Queue folder never has this many messages, usually just a
few at most.

While Claws was looping, I connected to the server using openssl and checked
Inbox.Queue - it had zero messages.

---
k2 select Inbox.Queue
* OK [CLOSED] Previous mailbox closed.
* FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft)
* OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft \*)] Flags
permitted.
* 0 EXISTS
* 0 RECENT
* OK [UIDVALIDITY 1478516821] UIDs valid
* OK [UIDNEXT 1885] Predicted next UID
k2 OK [READ-WRITE] Select completed (0.001 + 0.000 secs).
---

Looking at the log file, looks like the issue started out like this:

---
[21:51:41] IMAP> 601 SELECT "INBOX.Queue" 
[21:51:41] IMAP< * OK [CLOSED] Previous mailbox closed. 
[21:51:41] IMAP< * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft) 
[21:51:41] IMAP< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft
\*)] Flags permitted. 
[21:51:41] IMAP< * 0 EXISTS 
[21:51:41] IMAP< * 0 RECENT 
[21:51:41] IMAP< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1478516821] UIDs valid 
[21:51:41] IMAP< * OK [UIDNEXT 1884] Predicted next UID 
[21:51:41] IMAP< 601 OK [READ-WRITE] Select completed (0.001 + 0.000 secs). 
[21:51:41] IMAP> 602 UID FETCH 6036 BODY.PEEK[] 
[21:51:42] IMAP< [data - 46 bytes]
[21:51:42] ** warning: IMAP error on mail.mobisystems.com: FETCH error
[21:51:42] IMAP> 603 UID FETCH 6038 BODY.PEEK[] 
[21:51:42] IMAP< [data - 46 bytes]
[21:51:42] ** warning: IMAP error on mail.mobisystems.com: FETCH error
[21:51:42] IMAP> 604 UID FETCH 6039 BODY.PEEK[] 
[21:51:42] IMAP< [data - 46 bytes]
[21:51:42] ** warning: IMAP error on mail.mobisystems.com: FETCH error
[21:51:42] IMAP> 605 UID FETCH 6040 BODY.PEEK[] 
[21:51:42] IMAP< [data - 46 bytes]
[21:51:42] ** warning: IMAP error on mail.mobisystems.com: FETCH error
[21:51:42] IMAP> 606 UID FETCH 6042 BODY.PEEK[] 
[21:51:42] IMAP< [data - 46 bytes]
[21:51:42] ** warning: IMAP error on mail.mobisystems.com: FETCH error
[21:51:42] IMAP> 607 UID FETCH 6044 BODY.PEEK[] 
[21:51:42] IMAP< [data - 46 bytes]
[21:51:42] ** warning: IMAP error on mail.mobisystems.com: FETCH error
---

1 - Given the "UIDNEXT 1885" for Inbox.Queue (above), there hasn't yet been a
message with UID 6036 and trying to fetch it (command 602) would of course
fail. So looks like Claws somehow comes up with a completely invalid UID for a
message in Inbox.Queue.

2 - Trying to rescue the IMAP session by fetching 12000 messages with ever
increasing UID's seems questionable to me (what is that supposed to do)?

3 - And then that UI is "half-frozen" as this "rescue attempt" is ongoing seems
weird to me too.

( sorry if comments are "too technical" - I have some experience with IMAP as a
developer, but don't mean to assume or impose )

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 19 20:19:06 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 19:19:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3902] UI deadlock when trying to exit
In-Reply-To: <bug-3902-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3902-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3902-595-4LxzFQjQyx@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3902

--- Comment #3 from Kostya Vasilyev <kmansoft at gmail.com> ---
Something else is weird.

$ ls
~/.claws-mail/imapcache/mail.mobisystems.com/support at aqua-mail.com/INBOX/Queue/
6025  6027  6028  6031  6032  6033  6035

Remember that the issue started with:

[21:51:41] IMAP> 602 UID FETCH 6036 BODY.PEEK[] 

If I open the Queue folder in Claws - there are zero messages, which is in sync
with the server.

I looked inside those files - they're all quite old, at least from six months
back. Why do they exist and why did they not get deleted (which I assume they
would be since the server message count for this folder is zero?)

Still the UID's seem wrong - given the UIDNEXT 1885 I mentioned above.

( there might have been a UIDVALIDITY change since, but shouldn't that have
deleted all cached messages? )

-- 
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From rol at witbe.net  Tue Dec 19 20:39:02 2017
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 20:39:02 +0100
Subject: [Users] CM 3.16 and Selection when entering a folder
In-Reply-To: <20171219130010.25b1671c@jjacky.com>
References: <20171218213846.11422acb@bonifac.skk>
 <20171218224230.410df4cd@kujata>
 <20171219095849.68a3d15c@bonifac.skk>
 <20171219091337.4dbd4626@kujata>
 <20171219130010.25b1671c@jjacky.com>
Message-ID: <20171219203902.16f3db4b@riri.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello,

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 13:00:10 +0100
Olivier Brunel <jjk at jjacky.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 09:13:37 +0000
> Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 09:58:49 +0100
> > Slavko <linux at slavino.sk> wrote: 
> > 
> > > Do you really consider first message in my list as last? In our
> > > country the lists are counted from top, not from bottom...  
> > 
> > That depends on the sort order... but perhaps not in your country?
> > Your assumption is that 'first' means 'top'.
> 
> I don't think this is country-related actually, in a sorted list the
> first item is the one on top. A sorted list goes from first to last,
> from top to bottom.
> 
> So when sorting by date asc, the oldest item is first/on top, but when
> sorting desc the newest item is first/on top. The issue here is that,
> under the so-called "sort order awareness", claws ignores the sort
> order (direction) to always have the oldest item be first. (We're all
> assuming sorting by date here obviously, even though it could be
> something else, in which case this "awareness" means nothing at all).
> 
> Specifically, when sorting desc it reverses first/last, prev/next,
> etc This is literally what happens in the code.
> 
> I believe this was done for people who sort their messages list by date
> desc, yet would like the select first/go next features to act on the
> list sorted asc. This "sort order awareness" gives such results, so
> long as you sort by date ofc.

Excellent presentation ! 

> But obviously not everyone who sorts by date desc want such behavior,
> some would rather that first still means first, i.e. the item on top.
> This is why I wrote a patch (attached) to add an option, so one could
> disable this sort order awareness...

I'm going to try this ASAP, your brilliant summary/presentation of the
situation looks really promising ;)

Rol - not signing Paul to avoid confusion with the "real Paul" ;)


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From codejodler at gmx.ch  Tue Dec 19 21:28:19 2017
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 21:28:19 +0100
Subject: [Users] autocrypt
In-Reply-To: <20171219120507.753f7132@ACAB.TOSIAR>
References: <20171201165131.629d6153@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171204101540.4915d467.andrej@kacian.sk>
 <20171204111504.382e4657@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20171204171422.2c7960c9@kujata>
 <20171204191701.1201a1f8@acer-suse.lan>
 <20171204153139.69dca610@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20171207201921.45814ecd@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171207210453.6f9a2aa1@bonifac.skk>
 <20171208011811.2ea95ca0@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171219121635.3baa241f@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171219124825.708f6066@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171219120507.753f7132@ACAB.TOSIAR>
Message-ID: <20171219212819.4352e8df@gandalf.lan3>


I didn't know that hateful people exist on this list.




From colin at colino.net  Tue Dec 19 21:33:52 2017
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 21:33:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] autocrypt
In-Reply-To: <20171219212819.4352e8df@gandalf.lan3>
References: <20171201165131.629d6153@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171204101540.4915d467.andrej@kacian.sk>
 <20171204111504.382e4657@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20171204171422.2c7960c9@kujata>
 <20171204191701.1201a1f8@acer-suse.lan>
 <20171204153139.69dca610@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20171207201921.45814ecd@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171207210453.6f9a2aa1@bonifac.skk>
 <20171208011811.2ea95ca0@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171219121635.3baa241f@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171219124825.708f6066@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171219120507.753f7132@ACAB.TOSIAR>
 <20171219212819.4352e8df@gandalf.lan3>
Message-ID: <20171219213352.5d4395c6@mike>

On 19 December 2017 at 21h28, Michael wrote:

Hi, 

> I didn't know that hateful people exist on this list.

Me neither, and I find that sad. 

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From kardan at riseup.net  Wed Dec 20 00:54:32 2017
From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 00:54:32 +0100
Subject: [Users] autocrypt
In-Reply-To: <20171219213352.5d4395c6@mike>
References: <20171201165131.629d6153@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171204101540.4915d467.andrej@kacian.sk>
 <20171204111504.382e4657@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20171204171422.2c7960c9@kujata>
 <20171204191701.1201a1f8@acer-suse.lan>
 <20171204153139.69dca610@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20171207201921.45814ecd@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171207210453.6f9a2aa1@bonifac.skk>
 <20171208011811.2ea95ca0@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171219121635.3baa241f@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171219124825.708f6066@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171219120507.753f7132@ACAB.TOSIAR>
 <20171219212819.4352e8df@gandalf.lan3>
 <20171219213352.5d4395c6@mike>
Message-ID: <20171220005432.6ebeadcc@riseup.net>

(slightly off topic for email purists)

Using OMEMO (/ 'autocrypt') in pidgin with the lurch plugin is quite
handy (still needs a restart of pidgin after activation). New chat
windows handshake with my communication partner before I can even think
or click to enable OTR: https://github.com/gkdr/lurch

Also gpg moves towards usability at cost of security:
https://github.com/riseupnet/riseup_help/issues/455

Comfortable end-to-end-encryption becomes more and more available in
modern chat clients. I am waiting for an email client that tries to
establish a XMPP connection when I open a message window to
automatically start an encrypted session if the person is online.

Kardan

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 21:33:52 +0100
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

> On 19 December 2017 at 21h28, Michael wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> > I didn't know that hateful people exist on this list.  
> 
> Me neither, and I find that sad. 
> 



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 20 01:25:38 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 00:25:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1408] IDLE-Support with libEtPan (since 0.52)
In-Reply-To: <bug-1408-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1408-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1408-595-KMCqtSw6e1@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1408

--- Comment #32 from kardan at riseup.net ---
Last comment sound like WONTFIX because INCOMPATIBLE with claws.

comparison to other clients:
https://github.com/riseupnet/riseup_help/issues/465

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 20 10:17:47 2017
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 09:17:47 +0000
Subject: [Users] CM 3.16 and Selection when entering a folder
In-Reply-To: <20171219142558.7dc475fc@jjacky.com>
References: <20171218213846.11422acb@bonifac.skk>
 <20171218224230.410df4cd@kujata>
 <20171219095849.68a3d15c@bonifac.skk>
 <20171219115850.6b981ffb@acer-suse.lan>
 <20171219122025.3b170cc5@kujata>
 <20171219142558.7dc475fc@jjacky.com>
Message-ID: <20171220091747.3dfbb9da@kujata>

Olivier,

Thank you for your series of cocksure, bantam-strutting rants which
seem to have been instigated by a change in GIT which was only a few
hours old, and, as such, are a work in progress.

You are always on our IRC channel and are a subscriber to the
developers' mailing list but you chose the users' list as the place to
let off steam.

Yes, it was clear and known before you decided to state it that these
changes make most sense for those users sorting by date. For those
who sort by date (possibly most users) the current state is an
improvement. This series of changes, in fact, were started after
discussions with users who pointed out the problems with the previous
behaviour.

Since sorting is a folder-specific setting, your patch doesn't cut it
either. What is needed, I think, is something a bit smarter which is
aware of the current folder's sort criteria and then is able to do
the 'right thing' based on that.

I welcome you to share your ideas, but not in your blunt instrument
approach because that too easily comes across as self-righteous
anger. On another thread on this list someone said they were sad to
pereive a certain attitude, but yours can be perceived in much the
same way.

To reiterate, I am not disagreeing with everything you said, but I am
not agreeing with it all either.

regards

Paul







From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 20 10:22:59 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 09:22:59 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3938] New: [PATCH] Port from libnm-util/libnm-glib to
	libnm
Message-ID: <bug-3938-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3938

            Bug ID: 3938
           Summary: [PATCH] Port from libnm-util/libnm-glib to libnm
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: other
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: lkundrak at v3.sk

Created attachment 1828
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1828&action=edit
[PATCH] Port from libnm-util/libnm-glib to libnm

libnm-glib has been deprecated for three years and is eventually going
to disappear.

[lkundrak at v3.sk: wrote the commit mesage, patch originally from
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=862879]
---
 configure.ac | 2 +-
 src/main.c   | 9 ---------
 2 files changed, 1 insertion(+), 10 deletions(-)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 20 13:09:06 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 12:09:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2540] Treat <br> variants as newlines on HTML only
	messages
In-Reply-To: <bug-2540-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2540-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2540-595-08DHBd14Cf@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2540

--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
Hi Pierre, is bug this still happening?

I think this may have also fixed by patch for #3236 in 2014¹, but just
wondering :-)

regards,

¹
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e2217d5bb5722a5426158f49bcaed95005a28f6

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 20 13:45:52 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 12:45:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3938] [PATCH] Port from libnm-util/libnm-glib to libnm
In-Reply-To: <bug-3938-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3938-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3938-595-1yJBSRKOzD@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3938

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 3895 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 20 13:45:52 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 12:45:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3895] Port from libnm-util/libnm-glib to libnm (or
 GNetworkMonitor)
In-Reply-To: <bug-3895-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3895-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3895-595-uxMl9wPn8u@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3895

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |lkundrak at v3.sk

--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
*** Bug 3938 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 20 14:04:02 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:04:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1408] IDLE-Support with libEtPan (since 0.52)
In-Reply-To: <bug-1408-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1408-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1408-595-JZtEKEyatv@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1408

--- Comment #33 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #32)
> Last comment sound like WONTFIX because INCOMPATIBLE with claws.

Not really, it's implemented in the Sylpheed plugin which is also single
threaded, from its README:

[…]
| The LibSylph IMAP4 client implementation is synchronous. When IMAP
NOTIFY/IDLE
| is used, notifications could arrive at any time. This would require
significant
| changes to LibSylph's IMAP code. This plugin uses a workaround of having a
| second IMAP session for the asynchronous events, so that the core IMAP code
| is left untouched.

The same could be done within Claws Mail.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 20 14:22:55 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:22:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2540] Treat <br> variants as newlines on HTML only
	messages
In-Reply-To: <bug-2540-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2540-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2540-595-BdS7KxbOOH@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2540

Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #2 from Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> ---
Haven't noticed this in a while; closing.

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From jjk at jjacky.com  Wed Dec 20 18:05:35 2017
From: jjk at jjacky.com (Olivier Brunel)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 18:05:35 +0100
Subject: [Users] CM 3.16 and Selection when entering a folder
In-Reply-To: <20171220091747.3dfbb9da@kujata>
References: <20171218213846.11422acb@bonifac.skk>
 <20171218224230.410df4cd@kujata>
 <20171219095849.68a3d15c@bonifac.skk>
 <20171219115850.6b981ffb@acer-suse.lan>
 <20171219122025.3b170cc5@kujata>
 <20171219142558.7dc475fc@jjacky.com>
 <20171220091747.3dfbb9da@kujata>
Message-ID: <20171220180535.4e5eed5b@jjacky.com>

On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 09:17:47 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> Olivier,
> 
> Thank you for your series of cocksure, bantam-strutting rants which
> seem to have been instigated by a change in GIT which was only a few
> hours old, and, as such, are a work in progress.

I am sorry you read my messages that way, but it is neither how I
wrote/intended it, nor how I read it now. It might be because English
isn't my mother tongue, but I can assure you it wasn't meant as rants,
angry, or anything of the sort of me letting off steam. Apologies
(to you and everyone else reading) if it comes off that way.

Please also note it wasn't instigated by a change in git, I was
merely making on comment on such change, which you had previously
mentionned in the thread, that is all.

As for my interest in this issue, much like my writing of the patch,
that actually goes back months.

 
> You are always on our IRC channel and are a subscriber to the
> developers' mailing list but you chose the users' list as the place to
> let off steam.
>
> Yes, it was clear and known before you decided to state it that these
> changes make most sense for those users sorting by date. For those
> who sort by date (possibly most users) the current state is an
> improvement. This series of changes, in fact, were started after
> discussions with users who pointed out the problems with the previous
> behaviour.

Right, and I'm one of the other users who've had issue with those
changes, and tried to explain that while sorting by date, we don't
want this special behavior, we'd still like first to mean first, and
use go next to go the next message... yes, even when sorting desc.

All I was asking, by contributing a patch, is for an option to opt out
of this sort order awareness.


> Since sorting is a folder-specific setting, your patch doesn't cut it
> either. What is needed, I think, is something a bit smarter which is
> aware of the current folder's sort criteria and then is able to do
> the 'right thing' based on that.

Ok, but could you explain why you feel the patch doesn't cut it.
Because, IMHO, it does. That is, I feel whether one does want this "sort
order awareness" feature - for all his folders (hence your
implementation of it), or one doesn't, for none of his folders (hence
a global option).

And as one who doesn't want this feature, and who has been using the
patch to turn it off for some time now, I can say that it works exactly
as I'd like (all the time for all my folders).

And based on comments by others who have had similar issues, it also
seems to be a global switch situation -- see Slavko who said elsewhere
in this very thread:

>For now i solved it with Select the Last message -- I can live
>with it for some time.

That obviously (to me) is more of a workaround that a real/proper
solution, but it certainly convey that what he's after works indeed in a
global option way -- or do you disagree with that?

I'm not sure more is needed; Yes, a single global option is a simple
on/off switch, for all folders in all mailboxes, but sometimes simple
is enough :)

(And if some people do want for more complicated behavior, let them talk
first maybe... as I haven't heard such requests, though I may have
missed them ofc.)


> I welcome you to share your ideas, but not in your blunt instrument
> approach because that too easily comes across as self-righteous
> anger. On another thread on this list someone said they were sad to
> pereive a certain attitude, but yours can be perceived in much the
> same way.

I know I am blunt and can come off arrogant, and I'm no native speaker
and as such may not perceive things as you (and others native speakers)
do, but I'm pretty sure I wasn't hateful nor did I ever insulted anyone,
neither in this thread or another one.


Cheers,


> To reiterate, I am not disagreeing with everything you said, but I am
> not agreeing with it all either.
> 
> regards
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users



From andrej at kacian.sk  Thu Dec 21 19:43:55 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 19:43:55 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.16.0-1 for Windows unleashed
Message-ID: <20171221194355.7c612ec7@penny>

21st December 2017                                    Claws Mail 3.16.0
                 CLAWS MAIL FOR WINDOWS RELEASE NOTES
                   http://www.claws-mail.org/win32

Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast
email client.

See http://www.claws-mail.org/news.php for full information regarding
changes since the previous release.

Changes specific to Windows are:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
* Fixed sporadic crashes in file chooser dialog.
* Custom stylesheet setting in the Fancy plugin now works with
  Windows paths.
* Fixed saving message parts to disk if the part name contains
  a question mark.
* Use GLib's GIO interface for retrieving file info, instead of
  POSIX stat(). This fixes wrong attachment or message size display
  on some 64-bit Windows systems.
* Filtering log is now available in Tools menu and its configuration
  in Preferences.
* Small description text fixes in plugins DLL metadata.
* GTK+ support for more languages is now installed.
* Some supporting libraries have been updated to more recent
  versions:
  o libpng from 1.4.20 to 1.6.29
  o libetpan from 1.6 to 1.7.2
  o libiconv from 1.14 to 1.15
  o libtasn1 from 4.8 to 4.12
  o nettle from 3.2 to 3.3
  o gmp from 6.1.1 to 6.1.2
  o gnutls from 3.5.2 to 3.5.9
  o libcurl from 3.51.0 to 3.57.0
  o glib from 2.49.2 to 2.54.2
  o gdk-pixbuf from 2.35.2 to 2.36.11
  o glib-networking from 2.48.2 to 2.50.0
  o libsoup from 2.56.0 to 2.58.1
  o libgpg-error from 1.25 to 1.27
  o libgcrypt from 1.7.3 to 1.8.2
  o libassuan from 2.4.3 to 2.5.1
  o gpgme from 1.8.0 to 1.9.0
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From subscript at free.fr  Thu Dec 21 23:54:04 2017
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 23:54:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.16.0-1 for Windows unleashed
In-Reply-To: <20171221194355.7c612ec7@penny>
References: <20171221194355.7c612ec7@penny>
Message-ID: <20171221235404.262d85c5@ladybug>

Hello Andrej,


On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 19:43:55 +0100 Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> 21st December 2017                                    Claws Mail 3.16.0
>                  CLAWS MAIL FOR WINDOWS RELEASE NOTES
>                    http://www.claws-mail.org/win32
[snip]

Nice, thanks for Windows users!


Regards,

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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Fri Dec 22 11:41:32 2017
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 10:41:32 +0000
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.16.0-1 for Windows unleashed
In-Reply-To: <20171221194355.7c612ec7@penny>
References: <20171221194355.7c612ec7@penny>
Message-ID: <20171222104132.000008f8@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 19:43:55 +0100
Andrej Kacian wrote:

> 21st December 2017                                    Claws Mail
> 3.16.0 CLAWS MAIL FOR WINDOWS RELEASE NOTES

Working well here (using the 64 bit version) although I have seen a
couple of hangs followed by Claws closing during compose.

I will try to debug it and report further.

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From andrej at kacian.sk  Fri Dec 22 11:50:54 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 11:50:54 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.16.0-1 for Windows unleashed
In-Reply-To: <20171222104132.000008f8@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20171221194355.7c612ec7@penny>
 <20171222104132.000008f8@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20171222115054.0000247f@kacian.sk>

On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 10:41:32 +0000
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 19:43:55 +0100
> Andrej Kacian wrote:
> 
> > 21st December 2017                                    Claws Mail
> > 3.16.0 CLAWS MAIL FOR WINDOWS RELEASE NOTES  
> 
> Working well here (using the 64 bit version) although I have seen a
> couple of hangs followed by Claws closing during compose.
> 
> I will try to debug it and report further.
> 

Do you have automatic draft saving every X characters enabled in
preferences? There was a bug causing occasional crashes during such
draft saving during development, but it should be fixed for this
release.

Regards,
-- 
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Fri Dec 22 12:06:14 2017
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 11:06:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.16.0-1 for Windows unleashed
In-Reply-To: <20171222115054.0000247f@kacian.sk>
References: <20171221194355.7c612ec7@penny>
 <20171222104132.000008f8@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20171222115054.0000247f@kacian.sk>
Message-ID: <20171222110614.0000381a@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 11:50:54 +0100
Andrej Kacian wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 10:41:32 +0000
> Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 19:43:55 +0100
> > Andrej Kacian wrote:
> >   
> > > 21st December 2017                                    Claws Mail
> > > 3.16.0 CLAWS MAIL FOR WINDOWS RELEASE NOTES    
> > 
> > Working well here (using the 64 bit version) although I have seen a
> > couple of hangs followed by Claws closing during compose.
> > 
> > I will try to debug it and report further.
> >   
> 
> Do you have automatic draft saving every X characters enabled in
> preferences? There was a bug causing occasional crashes during such
> draft saving during development, but it should be fixed for this
> release.

I do, and I've just disabled it to see if it helps.

I have also moved my drafts folder onto the local mailbox instead of on
my IMAP server too.

More when I have it...


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From jerry at seibercom.net  Fri Dec 22 13:17:42 2017
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 07:17:42 -0500
Subject: [Users] claws-mail for Windows - 32bit still crashing
Message-ID: <20171222071742.000002ef@seibercom.net>

I just updated to the latest version of claws-mail for Windows (32 bit). I
have had a continuing problem with the 64 bit version crashing on certain
emails. Anyway, while this version does seem more stable, it is still crashing
on the same type of email. This is being run on a Windows 10 PRO, version
1709, 64 bit system. The following is the debug output. Perhaps someone might
have an idea what the problem is.

C:\Users\Gerard>C:\Users\Gerard\Downloads\gdb -ex run --args "C:\Program Files (x86)\Claws Mail\claws-mail" --debug
This binary was built by Equation Solution <http://www.Equation.com>.
GNU gdb (GDB) 7.12
Copyright (C) 2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  Type "show copying"
and "show warranty" for details.
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Reading symbols from C:\Program Files (x86)\Claws Mail\claws-mail...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Starting program: C:\Program Files (x86)\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe --debug
[New Thread 15316.0x5224]
warning: Can not parse XML library list; XML support was disabled at compile time
[New Thread 15316.0xd64]
[New Thread 15316.0x59d4]
[New Thread 15316.0x2fc4]
[New Thread 15316.0x2b6c]
[New Thread 15316.0x5f0c]
[New Thread 15316.0x5a68]
[New Thread 15316.0x5018]
[New Thread 15316.0x58b0]
[New Thread 15316.0x289c]
warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]:
warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 037A0000, 08561978 )
warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]:
warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 037A0000, 08561978 )
warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]:
warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 037A0000, 08562D10 )
warning: HEAP[claws-mail.exe]:
warning: Invalid address specified to RtlSizeHeap( 037A0000, 08562D10 )
[New Thread 15316.0x5364]
[Thread 15316.0x5364 exited with code 0]
[New Thread 15316.0x5864]
[Thread 15316.0x5864 exited with code 0]
[New Thread 15316.0x5e04]
[Thread 15316.0x5e04 exited with code 0]
[New Thread 15316.0x5a2c]
[Thread 15316.0x5a2c exited with code 0]
[New Thread 15316.0x2ce8]
[Thread 15316.0x2ce8 exited with code 0]
[New Thread 15316.0x22a8]
[New Thread 15316.0x4cc8]
[New Thread 15316.0x5660]
[New Thread 15316.0x4bfc]
[New Thread 15316.0x3ffc]
[New Thread 15316.0x5dc8]
[New Thread 15316.0x15c]
[New Thread 15316.0x4ccc]
[New Thread 15316.0x5ab8]
[New Thread 15316.0x3dcc]
[New Thread 15316.0x56d4]
warning: 1   638E5ED5
warning: 2   63A7BC33
warning: 3   63C5B4E3
warning: 4   63C5BFB9
warning: 5   63C478F9
warning: 6   63C4B6A9
warning: 7   639FEFEC
warning: 8   63D8497D
warning: 9   6374F01C
warning: 10  63D779A4
warning: 11  63D77AAB
warning: 12  63D7ECC3
warning: 13  63D76E66
warning: 14  64C60D05
warning: 15  68129973
warning: 16  6812A693
warning: 17  6812A86F
warning: 18  6812AC4D
warning: 19  678E60BD
warning: 20  00473971
warning: 21  002713E3
warning: 22  77988654
warning: 23  77AA4A47
warning: 24  77AA4A17

Thread 1 received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x776c08b2 in ?? ()
(gdb) continue
Continuing.

Thread 1 received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x008adde8 in ?? ()
(gdb) continue
Continuing.
[Thread 15316.0x5a68 exited with code 255]
[Thread 15316.0x59d4 exited with code 255]
[Thread 15316.0x2fc4 exited with code 255]
[Thread 15316.0xd64 exited with code 255]
[Thread 15316.0x2b6c exited with code 255]
[Thread 15316.0x5f0c exited with code 255]
[Thread 15316.0x4cc8 exited with code 255]
[Thread 15316.0x289c exited with code 255]
[Thread 15316.0x22a8 exited with code 255]
[Thread 15316.0x5660 exited with code 255]
[Thread 15316.0x5dc8 exited with code 255]
[Thread 15316.0x15c exited with code 255]
[Thread 15316.0x4bfc exited with code 255]
[Thread 15316.0x3ffc exited with code 255]
[Thread 15316.0x3dcc exited with code 255]
[Thread 15316.0x4ccc exited with code 255]
[Thread 15316.0x56d4 exited with code 255]
[Thread 15316.0x5018 exited with code 255]
[Thread 15316.0x58b0 exited with code 255]
[Inferior 1 (process 15316) exited with code 0377]
(gdb) bt full
No stack.
(gdb) quit


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec 23 02:57:40 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 01:57:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3939] New: XHDR newsgroups command endless loop
Message-ID: <bug-3939-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3939

            Bug ID: 3939
           Summary: XHDR newsgroups command endless loop
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.16.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: NNTP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: jean.diraison at ac-rennes.fr

Created attachment 1829
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1829&action=edit
Manage -1 end special value in nntp_threaded_xhdr nntp_threaded_over

The XHDR newsgroups command keeps downloading data forever in some case.

This happens when nntp_threaded_xhdr() function [src/etpan/nntp-thread.c] is
called with "end" parameter equal to 0xffffffff = (guint32)-1. The condition in
the while loop is always true (cbeg <= end && cend <= end).

I have experienced this problem with groups where last article has been deleted
(for example server: richelieu.ac-versailles.fr:119  group:
ac-versailles.vie-du-reseau.discussions ).

When this occurs, the XOVER command returns no data. So "newlist" stay NULL in
news_get_msginfos_for_range() function [src/news.c]. In this case, the "first"
and "last" signed integers are equals to -1 in news_get_extra_fields()
function, and they are converted to unsigned 32 bits integers 0xffffffff in
nntp_threaded_xhdr() call [src/etpan/nntp-thread.c].



I don't know what is the best way to solve this problem:
* return from news_get_extra_fields() if msglist is NULL
* or manage -1 special case values in nntp_threaded_xhdr() to keep previous
behavior (by comparing values + ones)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec 23 03:01:23 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 02:01:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3939] XHDR newsgroups command endless loop
In-Reply-To: <bug-3939-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3939-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3939-595-6Ldsjsy2Ql@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3939

Jean Diraison <jean.diraison at ac-rennes.fr> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Attachment #1829|0                           |1
        is obsolete|                            |

--- Comment #1 from Jean Diraison <jean.diraison at ac-rennes.fr> ---
Created attachment 1830
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1830&action=edit
Manage -1 end special value in nntp_threaded_xhdr nntp_threaded_over

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From andrej at kacian.sk  Sat Dec 23 16:08:42 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 16:08:42 +0100
Subject: [Users] claws-mail for Windows - 32bit still crashing
In-Reply-To: <20171222071742.000002ef@seibercom.net>
References: <20171222071742.000002ef@seibercom.net>
Message-ID: <20171223160842.3ab4b8ef.andrej@kacian.sk>

On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 07:17:42 -0500
Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:

> I just updated to the latest version of claws-mail for Windows (32
> bit). I have had a continuing problem with the 64 bit version
> crashing on certain emails. Anyway, while this version does seem more
> stable, it is still crashing on the same type of email. This is being
> run on a Windows 10 PRO, version 1709, 64 bit system. The following
> is the debug output. Perhaps someone might have an idea what the
> problem is.

I'm afraid that with the .exe and .dll files included in the install
package, it is impossible to get meaningful GDB backtraces, since the
symbols have been stripped (as evidenced by the "... in ?? ()" lines in
GDB output.

I'd have to supply you with the larger, unstripped version of the
files.

Another possibility would be figure out how to build the programs and
libraries with debug symbols stored separately, just like how most
major Linux distributions do it. We could then have an addon "debug"
package, which could be installed when needed.

Maybe after the holidays.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej Kacian



From jerry at seibercom.net  Sat Dec 23 21:42:07 2017
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 15:42:07 -0500
Subject: [Users] claws-mail for Windows - 32bit still crashing
In-Reply-To: <20171223160842.3ab4b8ef.andrej@kacian.sk>
References: <20171222071742.000002ef@seibercom.net>
 <20171223160842.3ab4b8ef.andrej@kacian.sk>
Message-ID: <20171223154207.00006267@seibercom.net>

On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 16:08:42 +0100, Andrej Kacian stated:

>On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 07:17:42 -0500
>Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:
>
>> I just updated to the latest version of claws-mail for Windows (32
>> bit). I have had a continuing problem with the 64 bit version
>> crashing on certain emails. Anyway, while this version does seem more
>> stable, it is still crashing on the same type of email. This is being
>> run on a Windows 10 PRO, version 1709, 64 bit system. The following
>> is the debug output. Perhaps someone might have an idea what the
>> problem is.  
>
>I'm afraid that with the .exe and .dll files included in the install
>package, it is impossible to get meaningful GDB backtraces, since the
>symbols have been stripped (as evidenced by the "... in ?? ()" lines in
>GDB output.
>
>I'd have to supply you with the larger, unstripped version of the
>files.
>
>Another possibility would be figure out how to build the programs and
>libraries with debug symbols stored separately, just like how most
>major Linux distributions do it. We could then have an addon "debug"
>package, which could be installed when needed.
>
>Maybe after the holidays.
>
>Regards,

Sound like a plan to me. Let me know when you have something to test out.

-- 
Jerry


From ricardo at mones.org  Sun Dec 24 17:53:58 2017
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2017 17:53:58 +0100
Subject: [Users] Clawsker 1.1.1 unleashed
Message-ID: <20171224165358.l2oamg2c6rm3k3wo@curuxu>

Hi all,

Clawsker, the Claws Mail hidden preferences editor and tweaker has been
released.

Changes shamelessly copied from the NEWS file:

 - Updated preferences data to cope with changes in Claws Mail 3.16.0
 - Fix bug in Quick Search colors data which rendered it unsettable
 - Translations:
   • Updated: German

More details, outdated screenshots and download links on homepage:
http://www.claws-mail.org/clawsker.php

-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  Never send a human to do a machine's job.               Agent Smith

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From bugs.michael at gmx.net  Sun Dec 24 22:28:08 2017
From: bugs.michael at gmx.net (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2017 22:28:08 +0100
Subject: [Users] 3.16.0 crashes for me
Message-ID: <20171224222808.2da9f206@noname>

Merry Christmas everyone, especially the devs!

A quick upgrade to Claws Mail 3.16.0 crashes early for me with a configuration
that works fine with 3.15.1 and older. When downgrading to 3.15.1, that one
still works. Environment is Fedora 27 x86_64.

Any idea what's the culprit in thread 1?

Thread 5 (Thread 0x7fffde536700 (LWP 29672)):
#0  0x00007ffff2c760d9 in syscall () from /lib64/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#1  0x00007ffff35fb66a in g_cond_wait_until () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#2  0x00007ffff358a381 in g_async_queue_pop_intern_unlocked ()
   from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#3  0x00007ffff35dde64 in g_thread_pool_thread_proxy () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#4  0x00007ffff35dd4c6 in g_thread_proxy () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#5  0x00007ffff4585609 in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#6  0x00007ffff2c7be6f in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.

Thread 4 (Thread 0x7fffded37700 (LWP 29671)):
#0  0x00007ffff2c760d9 in syscall () from /lib64/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#1  0x00007ffff35fb66a in g_cond_wait_until () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#2  0x00007ffff358a381 in g_async_queue_pop_intern_unlocked ()
   from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#3  0x00007ffff35dde64 in g_thread_pool_thread_proxy () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#4  0x00007ffff35dd4c6 in g_thread_proxy () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#5  0x00007ffff4585609 in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#6  0x00007ffff2c7be6f in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.

Thread 3 (Thread 0x7fffdf538700 (LWP 29670)):
#0  0x00007ffff2c6f8bb in poll () from /lib64/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#1  0x00007ffff35b5ed9 in g_main_context_iterate.isra () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#2  0x00007ffff35b6272 in g_main_loop_run () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#3  0x00007ffff6005b36 in gdbus_shared_thread_func () from /lib64/libgio-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#4  0x00007ffff35dd4c6 in g_thread_proxy () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#5  0x00007ffff4585609 in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#6  0x00007ffff2c7be6f in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.

Thread 2 (Thread 0x7fffdfd39700 (LWP 29669)):
#0  0x00007ffff2c6f8bb in poll () from /lib64/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#1  0x00007ffff35b5ed9 in g_main_context_iterate.isra () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#2  0x00007ffff35b5fec in g_main_context_iteration () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#3  0x00007ffff35b6031 in glib_worker_main () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#4  0x00007ffff35dd4c6 in g_thread_proxy () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#5  0x00007ffff4585609 in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#6  0x00007ffff2c7be6f in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.

Thread 1 (Thread 0x7ffff7faff80 (LWP 29665)):
#0  0x00007ffff2ce5988 in __strchr_avx2 () from /lib64/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#1  0x0000555555834ad6 in make_dir_hier (dir=dir at entry=0x0) at utils.c:2186
        parent_dir = <optimized out>
        p = <optimized out>
#2  0x00005555556e3d6a in imap_get_num_list (folder=0x555556149600, 
    _item=0x55555619f290, msgnum_list=0x7fffffff6620, old_uids_valid=0x7fffffff661c)
    at imap.c:4596
        item = 0x55555619f290
        session = <optimized out>
        uidlist = 0x0
        dir = <optimized out>
        known_list_len = <optimized out>
        path = 0x0
        __func__ = "imap_get_num_list"
#3  0x00005555556c85ec in folder_item_scan_full (item=item at entry=0x55555619f290, 
    filtering=filtering at entry=1) at folder.c:2161
        folder = 0x555556149600
        folder_list = 0x0
        cache_list = 0x0
        folder_list_cur = <optimized out>
        cache_list_cur = <optimized out>
        new_list = 0x0
        exists_list = 0x0
        elem = <optimized out>
        newmsg_list = 0x0
        newcnt = 0
        unreadcnt = 0
        totalcnt = 0
        markedcnt = 0
        unreadmarkedcnt = 0
        repliedcnt = 0
        forwardedcnt = 0
        lockedcnt = 0
        ignoredcnt = 0
        watchedcnt = 0
        cache_max_num = <optimized out>
        folder_max_num = <optimized out>
        cache_cur_num = <optimized out>
        folder_cur_num = <optimized out>
        update_flags = 0
        old_uids_valid = 1
        subject_table = 0x0
#4  0x00005555556c96cb in folder_item_read_cache (item=item at entry=0x55555619f290)
    at folder.c:2662
        unreadcnt = 0
        unreadmarkedcnt = 0
        lockedcnt = 0
        msginfo = <optimized out>
        cur = <optimized out>
        markedcnt = 0
        repliedcnt = 0
        watchedcnt = 0
        newcnt = 0
        forwardedcnt = 0
        ignoredcnt = 0
        cache_file = 0x0
        mark_file = 0x0
        tags_file = 0x7fffd0008950 "/home/ms27/.claws-mail/tagsdb/#imap/GMX/Queue/.claws_tags"
        start = {tv_sec = 1514150424, tv_usec = 560996}
        end = {tv_sec = 93825004145152, tv_usec = 93825000506352}
        diff = <optimized out>
        timing_name = 0x555555942dd5 ""
        __FUNCTION__ = "folder_item_read_cache"
#5  0x00005555556c9e78 in folder_item_get_msg_list (item=0x55555619f290)
    at folder.c:2823
No locals.
#6  0x00005555556d3138 in folderview_update_node (folderview=<optimized out>, 
    node=<optimized out>) at folderview.c:1698
        ctree = <optimized out>
        style = <optimized out>
        color_style = <optimized out>
        item = <optimized out>
        xpm = <optimized out>
        openxpm = <optimized out>
        searchicon = 0x0
        mark = <optimized out>
        name = <optimized out>
        str = <optimized out>
        add_unread_mark = <optimized out>
        add_sub_match_mark = <optimized out>
        use_bold = <optimized out>
        use_color = <optimized out>
        col_pos = <optimized out>
        stype = <optimized out>
#7  0x00005555556d3837 in folderview_gnode_func (ctree=<optimized out>, 
    depth=<optimized out>, gnode=<optimized out>, cnode=<optimized out>, 
    data=<optimized out>) at folderview.c:1823
        folderview = <optimized out>
        item = <optimized out>
#8  0x000055555587e146 in gtk_sctree_insert_gnode (ctree=ctree at entry=0x555555d383f0, 
    parent=parent at entry=0x5555561a8d40, sibling=sibling at entry=0x5555561a8da0, 
    gnode=gnode at entry=0x55555618fef0, 
    func=func at entry=0x5555556d3810 <folderview_gnode_func>, 
    data=data at entry=0x555555f6de00) at gtksctree.c:1924
        clist = 0x555555d383f0
        cnode = 0x5555561a9a00
        child = 0x0
        new_child = <optimized out>
        list = 0x5555561a9a00
        work = <optimized out>
        depth = 2
#9  0x000055555587e1e4 in gtk_sctree_insert_gnode (ctree=0x555555d383f0, 
    parent=<optimized out>, sibling=<optimized out>, gnode=0x555556166f90, 
    func=0x5555556d3810 <folderview_gnode_func>, data=0x555555f6de00)
    at gtksctree.c:1947
        clist = 0x555555d383f0
        cnode = 0x5555561a8d40
        child = 0x5555561a8da0
        new_child = <optimized out>
        list = 0x5555561a8d40
        work = 0x55555618fef0
        depth = 1
#10 0x00005555556d5c0a in folderview_set_folders (folderview=<optimized out>)
    at folderview.c:1905
        list = <optimized out>
#11 folderview_set (folderview=<optimized out>) at folderview.c:797
        ctree = <optimized out>
        mainwin = <optimized out>
        sel_item = <optimized out>
        op_item = <optimized out>
#12 0x00005555556d6070 in folderview_update_folder (source=<optimized out>, 
    userdata=<optimized out>) at folderview.c:2964
        hookdata = <optimized out>
        folderview = <optimized out>
        ctree = <optimized out>
#13 0x0000555555820287 in hooks_marshal (hook=<optimized out>, data=0x7fffffffba30)
    at hooks.c:107
        func = <optimized out>
        marshal_data = 0x7fffffffba30
#14 0x00007ffff35a6524 in g_hook_list_marshal () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#15 0x0000555555820979 in hooks_invoke (
    hooklist_name=hooklist_name at entry=0x555555895f59 "folder_update", 
    source=source at entry=0x7fffffffca80) at hooks.c:125
        hooklist = <optimized out>
        marshal_data = {source = 0x7fffffffca80, abort = 0}
#16 0x00005555556c34a8 in folder_add (folder=0x555556149600) at folder.c:805
        cur_folder = <optimized out>
        cur = <optimized out>
        i = <optimized out>
        hookdata = {folder = 0x555556149600, update_flags = FOLDER_ADD_FOLDER, 
          item = 0x0, item2 = 0x0}
#17 0x00005555556c7908 in folder_read_list () at folder.c:852
        folder = <optimized out>
        node = 0x7fffd0012330
        cur = 0x7fffd0007b20
        xmlnode = <optimized out>
        path = <optimized out>
#18 0x000055555567d2eb in main (argc=<optimized out>, argv=<optimized out>)
    at main.c:1355
        connection = 0x555555dc0888
        error = 0x0
        nm_proxy = 0x555555db03a0
        userrc = <optimized out>
        mainwin = 0x555555df0150
        folderview = 0x555555f6de00
        icon = 0x555555dc8360
        crash_file_present = <optimized out>
        num_folder_class = 0
        asked_for_migration = 0
        start_done = 1
        plug_list = 0x0
        never_ran = 0
        mainwin_shown = 0
        start = {tv_sec = 1514150424, tv_usec = 404862}
        end = {tv_sec = 0, tv_usec = 23712}
        diff = <optimized out>
        timing_name = 0x5555558add15 "startup"
        __FUNCTION__ = "main"


From bugs.michael at gmx.net  Sun Dec 24 22:33:22 2017
From: bugs.michael at gmx.net (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2017 22:33:22 +0100
Subject: [Users] 3.16.0 crashes for me
In-Reply-To: <20171224222808.2da9f206@noname>
References: <20171224222808.2da9f206@noname>
Message-ID: <20171224223322.4ec63750@noname>

Terminal output is:

$ claws-mail 
/home/ms27/.claws-mail/tmp/mc-ms19f: unlink: Is a directory

(claws-mail:30715): Claws-Mail-CRITICAL **: imap_item_get_path: assertion 'folder_path != NULL' failed
folder.c:3967 Condition path != NULL failed
traceback:
0:	claws-mail(+0x172359) [0x559a1c592359]
1:	claws-mail(+0x17553f) [0x559a1c59553f]
2:	claws-mail(folder_item_get_msg_list+0x78) [0x559a1c595e78]
3:	claws-mail(+0x17f138) [0x559a1c59f138]
4:	claws-mail(+0x17f837) [0x559a1c59f837]
5:	claws-mail(gtk_sctree_insert_gnode+0x116) [0x559a1c74a146]
6:	claws-mail(gtk_sctree_insert_gnode+0x1b4) [0x559a1c74a1e4]
7:	claws-mail(folderview_set+0x22a) [0x559a1c5a1c0a]
8:	claws-mail(+0x182070) [0x559a1c5a2070]
9:	claws-mail(+0x2cc287) [0x559a1c6ec287]
10:	/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_hook_list_marshal+0x54) [0x7f1bde661524]
11:	claws-mail(hooks_invoke+0x59) [0x559a1c6ec979]
12:	claws-mail(folder_add+0xb8) [0x559a1c58f4a8]
13:	claws-mail(folder_read_list+0x68) [0x559a1c593908]
14:	claws-mail(main+0xc7b) [0x559a1c5492eb]
15:	/lib64/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xea) [0x7f1bddc3e03a]
16:	claws-mail(_start+0x2a) [0x559a1c54b4da]


(claws-mail:30715): Claws-Mail-CRITICAL **: imap_item_get_path: assertion 'folder_path != NULL' failed
folder.c:3991 Condition path != NULL failed
traceback:
0:	claws-mail(+0x172659) [0x559a1c592659]
1:	claws-mail(+0x17554f) [0x559a1c59554f]
2:	claws-mail(folder_item_get_msg_list+0x78) [0x559a1c595e78]
3:	claws-mail(+0x17f138) [0x559a1c59f138]
4:	claws-mail(+0x17f837) [0x559a1c59f837]
5:	claws-mail(gtk_sctree_insert_gnode+0x116) [0x559a1c74a146]
6:	claws-mail(gtk_sctree_insert_gnode+0x1b4) [0x559a1c74a1e4]
7:	claws-mail(folderview_set+0x22a) [0x559a1c5a1c0a]
8:	claws-mail(+0x182070) [0x559a1c5a2070]
9:	claws-mail(+0x2cc287) [0x559a1c6ec287]
10:	/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_hook_list_marshal+0x54) [0x7f1bde661524]
11:	claws-mail(hooks_invoke+0x59) [0x559a1c6ec979]
12:	claws-mail(folder_add+0xb8) [0x559a1c58f4a8]
13:	claws-mail(folder_read_list+0x68) [0x559a1c593908]
14:	claws-mail(main+0xc7b) [0x559a1c5492eb]
15:	/lib64/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xea) [0x7f1bddc3e03a]
16:	claws-mail(_start+0x2a) [0x559a1c54b4da]

msgcache.c:586 Condition cache_file != NULL failed
traceback:
0:	claws-mail(msgcache_read_cache+0xe8e) [0x559a1c5efd1e]
1:	claws-mail(+0x17556b) [0x559a1c59556b]
2:	claws-mail(folder_item_get_msg_list+0x78) [0x559a1c595e78]
3:	claws-mail(+0x17f138) [0x559a1c59f138]
4:	claws-mail(+0x17f837) [0x559a1c59f837]
5:	claws-mail(gtk_sctree_insert_gnode+0x116) [0x559a1c74a146]
6:	claws-mail(gtk_sctree_insert_gnode+0x1b4) [0x559a1c74a1e4]
7:	claws-mail(folderview_set+0x22a) [0x559a1c5a1c0a]
8:	claws-mail(+0x182070) [0x559a1c5a2070]
9:	claws-mail(+0x2cc287) [0x559a1c6ec287]
10:	/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_hook_list_marshal+0x54) [0x7f1bde661524]
11:	claws-mail(hooks_invoke+0x59) [0x559a1c6ec979]
12:	claws-mail(folder_add+0xb8) [0x559a1c58f4a8]
13:	claws-mail(folder_read_list+0x68) [0x559a1c593908]
14:	claws-mail(main+0xc7b) [0x559a1c5492eb]
15:	/lib64/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xea) [0x7f1bddc3e03a]
16:	claws-mail(_start+0x2a) [0x559a1c54b4da]


(claws-mail:30715): Claws-Mail-CRITICAL **: imap_item_get_path: assertion 'folder_path != NULL' failed
Segmentation fault (core dumped)


From shai at platonix.com  Tue Dec 26 00:17:00 2017
From: shai at platonix.com (Shai Berger)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2017 01:17:00 +0200
Subject: [Users] Surprising actions behavior
In-Reply-To: <20171217020108.2a6aa3bb.shai@platonix.com>
References: <20171217020108.2a6aa3bb.shai@platonix.com>
Message-ID: <20171226011700.19f5da6d.shai@platonix.com>

Hi all, and merry Christmas to those who celebrate,

I now see all of the below in 3.16.0. They're a little annoying. Any
comments? Pointers into the source?

Thanks,
	Shai.

On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 02:01:08 +0200
Shai Berger <shai at platonix.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I see some behaviors around actions, which I find surprising. I looked
> for settings to fix these, but couldn't find them, and I want to ask
> for your opinion before opening tickets and/or trying to fix them.
> 
> The version is 3.15.1 on Debian Testing, I compiled it myself in order
> to include the Fancy plugin but other than that it's the released
> version.
> 
> In no particular order, here they are:
> 
> 1) There seems to be no logging of actions available. I configured
> some action, and it didn't do what I expected, and I had to debug by
> guessing.
> 
> 2) "stop" is available as a filter-action when configuring Actions. It
> really makes sense only in filters. I'm not sure if putting it in the
> end of a list of actions causes any problems, because of no logging.
> 
> 3) I defined a mark-as-spam action using a filter-action, to do the
> following:
> - Execute a command (train my Bayesian filter that it's spam)
> - Mark the message read
> - Mark the message as spam
> - Move the message to the junk folder
> This looked like it did the first three, but failed to move the
> message to the junk folder. At first, there was a "stop" in the end
> (because the action was originally translated from a KMail filter), I
> removed it and it didn't change anything. Then I tried to promote the
> "move" operation so it ran earlier in the sequence.
> 3a) In the filter-action editor, I could move it wherever I liked, but
> when I pressed OK, it wouldn't move before the mark_as_read.
> 3b) So I had the actions ordered as "execute, mark_as_read, move,
> mark_as_spam" -- and now the messages are moved, but not marked as
> spam. Is the filter-action in Actions limited to 3 actions only?
> 
> 4) As noted, the action above includes a "move" operation, which means
> that when it ends, the previously-selected message is no longer in the
> active folder. I'd expect the next or previous message in the list to
> be selected, like what happens when a message is deleted; but instead,
> the selection jumped to the first unread message in the folder. In
> case this matters, my preference for "selection when entering a new
> folder" is "last message opened; none".
> 
> Is any of the above expected behavior? Assuming not, are there easy
> ways to fix, or work around them?
> 
> Thanks, and sorry for the length,
> Shai.
> _______________________________________________
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> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
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From pf at pfortin.com  Tue Dec 26 01:11:29 2017
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2017 19:11:29 -0500
Subject: [Users] Surprising actions behavior
In-Reply-To: <20171226011700.19f5da6d.shai@platonix.com>
References: <20171217020108.2a6aa3bb.shai@platonix.com>
 <20171226011700.19f5da6d.shai@platonix.com>
Message-ID: <20171225191129.29f43f5c@pfortin.com>

On Tue, 26 Dec 2017 01:17:00 +0200 Shai Berger wrote:

>> 3) I defined a mark-as-spam action using a filter-action, to do the
>> following:
>> - Execute a command (train my Bayesian filter that it's spam)
>> - Mark the message read
>> - Mark the message as spam
>> - Move the message to the junk folder
>> This looked like it did the first three, but failed to move the
>> message to the junk folder. At first, there was a "stop" in the end
>> (because the action was originally translated from a KMail filter), I
>> removed it and it didn't change anything. Then I tried to promote the
>> "move" operation so it ran earlier in the sequence.
>> 3a) In the filter-action editor, I could move it wherever I liked, but
>> when I pressed OK, it wouldn't move before the mark_as_read.
>> 3b) So I had the actions ordered as "execute, mark_as_read, move,
>> mark_as_spam" -- and now the messages are moved, but not marked as
>> spam. Is the filter-action in Actions limited to 3 actions only?

Once you move a message, it's no longer accessible.  Make all changes to
a message before moving it. Failure to move sounds like my bug report:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3919

HTH,
Pierre


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 26 14:10:48 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2017 13:10:48 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3940] New: Depends on unmaintained pygtk
Message-ID: <bug-3940-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3940

            Bug ID: 3940
           Summary: Depends on unmaintained pygtk
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Python
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: mones at users.sourceforge.net

Quoting original reporter:
,-------
| pygtk is unmaintained upstream. It has not had a release since GNOME 3
| was released in 2011.
| 
| The way forward is to port your app to use GObject Introspection
| bindings.
| 
| For more information on GObject Introspection see [1] and [2].
| 
| Please try to do this before the Buster release as we're going to 
| try to remove pygtk this cycle.
| 
| If you have any question don't hesitate to ask.
| 
| [1] https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GObjectIntrospection
| [2] https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/PyGObject
`-------

FWIW no dates for Buster release (Debian 10) are already announced, but at
current release rate that's probably happening around the middle of 2019 (see
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases for past dates).

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 26 14:11:43 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2017 13:11:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3940] Depends on unmaintained pygtk
In-Reply-To: <bug-3940-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3940-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3940-595-DgpGAkAcvp@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3940

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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                URL|                            |https://bugs.debian.org/885
                   |                            |266

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From philippe at gramoulle.com  Fri Dec 29 20:57:28 2017
From: philippe at gramoulle.com (Philippe =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Gramoull=E9?=)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2017 20:57:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] Latest GIT: Claws doesn't show body nor attachment
Message-ID: <20171229195729.077CB5FBB4@smtp.gramoulle.com>

Hi Everybody

I know everyone's busy with new year's eve but still spammers don't
rest !

I have received several mails lately , spam of course, and none of
which shows the message and .7z attachment.

Mail shows up empty with no attachment.

Let me know if you'd like me to fill a bug. If any dev is interested
in the offending mails, i'd rather send them offlist.

Setup is Debian Sid, x86 with latest GIT.

Truly yours,

Philippe

PS: Thanks, as always, for such a great mail client !



From shai at platonix.com  Fri Dec 29 12:20:15 2017
From: shai at platonix.com (Shai Berger)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2017 13:20:15 +0200
Subject: [Users] minor BiDi issue in messages list
Message-ID: <20171229132015.183fb264.shai@platonix.com>

Hi,

I'm seeing a very minor BiDi issue in the message list: When message
subjects begin with a strong RTL character, their directionality is set
to RTL -- which is excellent, way better than what I've been used to;
but given that excellence, the fact that they're still indented to the
left rather than to the right is a miss.

Is this a known issue? Is this a Claws issue, or a GTK one?

Thanks,
	Shai.


From trey at fastmail.fm  Fri Dec 29 13:51:45 2017
From: trey at fastmail.fm (Trey Sizemore)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2017 07:51:45 -0500
Subject: [Users] Viewing of HTML mails in 3.15.1 or 3.16.0
Message-ID: <20171229075145.5285e49b@fastmail.fm>

Hi All-

I know I'm late to the party regarding HTML mails in claws, but wanted
to find out the best current options for doing so.

I know that the fancy plugin has been removed due to Webkit issues.  Is
dillo still an option?  I don't see it in my 3.15.1 build on opensuse
Tumbleweed and also installed 3.16.0 from a different repo.  No plugins
seem available for these to do the trick.

Will compiling from source do the trick?  I had done this many years
ago, but have recently gotten back to my linux machine and claws again
recently and would love to have this working.

Thanks!

-- 
Cheers,
Trey
----
 
This wasn't just plain terrible, this was fancy terrible. 
This was terrible with raisins in it. 
                 --Dorothy Parker
 
Linux localhost 4.14.6-1-default x86_64
 07:47:43  up  11:01,  2 users,  load average: 0.33, 0.48, 0.36


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 31 05:18:03 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 04:18:03 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3917] CM getting slower when retrieving mail
In-Reply-To: <bug-3917-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3917-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3917-595-kXLn5rlCU3@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3917

--- Comment #3 from Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> ---
Got 3 more messages left in ~/.claws-mail/temfolder/processing-N on 3 different
accounts (one each) -- 2 since updating to 3.16.0

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec 30 12:48:26 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 11:48:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3919] manual filtering does not move spam
In-Reply-To: <bug-3919-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3919-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3919-595-aiaYboCWE2@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3919

Shai Berger <shai at platonix.com> changed:

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                 CC|                            |shai at platonix.com

--- Comment #1 from Shai Berger <shai at platonix.com> ---
Hi,

I think my case is relevant to this bug: I don't have an anti-spam plug-in
installed at all; I never expected mark_as_spam to move the message, so I just
added a "move" action after it. Here's a piece of filtering log for a relevant
message:

[13:38:41] processing rule 'Spam handling' [ header
"X-Spambayes-Classification" matchcase "spam" mark_as_spam move "#mh/Mail/junk"
stop ]
[13:38:41] checking if message matches [ header "X-Spambayes-Classification"
matchcase "spam" ]
> message matches
[13:38:41] applying action [ mark_as_spam ]

As you can see, after "mark_as_spam", processing just stops, although the other
actions are clearly there in the log.

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