From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 1 12:13:33 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2017 10:13:33 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3801] Broken auto wrapping
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--- Comment #2 from Ralf Mardorf ---
When I wrote the text in quotes...
"Hi,
I forgot to mention that the line breaks happen
with"
...the wrapping happened at < 50 chars, but Claws is set up to warp
after at 72 chars. I also noticed that sometimes even words are wrapped.
When I replied to mail today everything was ok. For testing purpose I
wrote this text in a new mail and only one time I run into this issue.
This is _not_ an April Fools' joke. The issue already started yesterday.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 2 03:33:27 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2017 01:33:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3793] Segfaults when autocompletion returns too many
results
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--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones ---
After some investigation seems this is not caused by a big number of addresses
on address book, but by the master passphrase dialog being launched in the
middle of the address completion ([0] and [1] are added debug_print, not in
current code):
ldapquery.c:694:===ldapqry_connect===
ldapserver.c:731:cert Success
ldapserver.c:737:tm Success
ldapserver.c:806:Got handle to LDAP host 192.168.1.5 on port 389
ldapserver.c:809:Setting version 3
passwordstore.c:180:Getting password '192.168.1.5' from block (0/LDAP)
passwordstore.c:189:[0] Grabbing pointer
passwordstore.c:198:[1] Decrypting password
Segmentation fault
The decrypting process calls password.c:master_passphrase(), which launches the
dialog when the password is not in memory.
This somehow makes the program crash, probably because both windows (dialog and
autocompletion) are assuming they're the only one running and both try to grab
input and/or focus.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 2 03:34:04 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2017 01:34:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3793] Segfaults when master passphrase dialog is
launched in the middle of autocompletion
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Ricardo Mones changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Summary|Segfaults when |Segfaults when master
|autocompletion returns too |passphrase dialog is
|many results |launched in the middle of
| |autocompletion
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 2 18:07:52 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2017 16:07:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3801] Broken auto wrapping
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Paul changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |FIXED
--- Comment #3 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/
++ ChangeLog 2017-04-02 13:25:02.923787816 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f0c5783d3283961971ca4efe287c288269f93fc
Merge: 0db0436 592315a
Author: Colin Leroy
Date: Sun Apr 2 13:25:02 2017 +0200
Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=592315ae177248b7435a353a53883a0d78c7c4a3
Author: Paul
Date: Sun Apr 2 12:24:20 2017 +0100
fix bug 3801, 'Broken auto wrapping'
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From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sun Apr 2 18:25:55 2017
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2017 18:25:55 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3801] Broken auto wrapping
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Message-ID: <20170402182555.3eedd766@utnubu>
Hi,
I'm short in time, so I'll try building tomorrow, when I've got time to
fix issues.
At the moment it doesn't work building claws.
The PKGBUILD contains
prepare() {
cd claws-mail/
# show timestamp in about dialog
patch -Np1 < "${srcdir}/claws-timestamp.patch"
git update-index --assume-unchanged src/gtk/about.c
and it fails with
patching file src/gtk/about.c
Hunk #1 FAILED at 820.
1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file src/gtk/about.c.rej
Regards,
Ralf
From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 2 20:22:51 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2017 18:22:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3789] Selecting "View -> Goto -> next unread" then
trying to set "n" as key shortcut opens dialog
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Paul changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Component|UI |default
Product|Claws Mail |Claws Mail (Windows)
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 2 20:23:08 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2017 18:23:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3783] Cannot add new dictionary
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Paul changed:
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Component|UI/Compose Window/Spell |default
|Checker |
Product|Claws Mail |Claws Mail (Windows)
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 2 20:23:35 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2017 18:23:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3773] Broken Unicode support in RSSyl
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Component|Plugins/RSSyl |default
Product|Claws Mail |Claws Mail (Windows)
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From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au Mon Apr 3 05:32:42 2017
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 13:32:42 +1000
Subject: [Users] (Solved) Not downloading from Gmail
In-Reply-To: <20170329154112.68dee9e8@Devil-Bonobo>
References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo>
<20161208213655.684898c6@pfortin.com>
<20161208191610.55f3f483@Devil-Bonobo>
<20161209084610.4223be07@kujata>
<20161209102245.3ead05a5@Devil-Bonobo>
<20170329154112.68dee9e8@Devil-Bonobo>
Message-ID: <20170403133242.6ec190c4@PPlive>
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 15:41:12 -0700
John Jason Jordan wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 10:22:45 -0800
> John Jason Jordan dijo:
>
> >On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 08:46:10 +0000
> >Paul dijo:
> >
> >>On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 19:16:10 -0800
> >>John Jason Jordan wrote:
> >>
> >>> 2) I turned on 'allow less secure apps,' but it made no
> >>> difference.
> >>
> >>You definitely need that google option turned on. In google's world
> >>'less secure' is a misnomer for apps that don't support OAuth 2.0,
> >>and Claws does not use OAuth.
> >
> >Success! At first it didn't work, so I turned it off. Then because
> >you said I definitely need it I turned it back on, now everything
> >works.
>
> I'm back with continuing Gmail problems. I have two Gmail accounts -
> one for my university created when they moved to Gmail about three
> years ago, and the other is a private account I created myself many
> years ago.
>
> The first problem is that Gmail is constantly changing its
> certificates. I always click on 'accept and save' (should I?) and then
> the mail retrieval proceeds normally.
I am not an expert, but you probably should look at the new certificate
and if it appears believable, curse Google and click on 'accept and
save'. Consider another service provider?
Is there any reason that CM can not remember that multiple certificates
have been accepted, or is there some reason that accepting a new one
must cause the previous one to be discarded?
> However, lately I have had so
> much trouble connecting that I increased the timeout to three
> minutes, and now I don't get the popup about the new certificate
> until the end of the three minutes. Currently this is only happening
> with the university account, which I access with IMAP. I say it is
> only happening there because I am unable to connect to the private
> account at all, unless I access it with a web browser. The private
> account is POP3 and it was working with Claws Mail as recently as a
> couple weeks ago. Here is what the log says when I attempt to
> retrieve or send mail on the private POP3 account:
>
> * Account 'Gmail': Connecting to POP3 server: pop.gmail.com:995...
> [14:54:11] IMAP4> 61 NOOP
> [14:54:11] IMAP4< 61 OK Success
> [14:55:11] IMAP4> 62 NOOP
> [14:55:12] IMAP4< 62 OK Success
> ** Session timed out. You may be able to recover by increasing the
> timeout value in Preferences/Other/Miscellaneous.
> ...
> * Account 'Gmail': Connecting to SMTP server: smtp.gmail.com:587...
> [15:26:11] IMAP4> 125 NOOP
> [15:26:11] IMAP4< 125 OK Success
> [15:27:11] IMAP4> 126 NOOP
> [15:27:12] IMAP4< 126 OK Success
> *** Session timed out. You may be able to recover by increasing the
> timeout value in Preferences/Other/Miscellaneous.
>
> First issue about the above logs is why does it say 'IMAP4' when it is
> trying to connect to a POP3 server? Also, even though it timed out, it
> continues to add half a dozen more pairs of lines like the above for
> five or six minutes more.
>
> I also wonder about the certificates. What is supposed to happen with
> a POP3 account when there is a new certificate? What f there was a new
> one and I failed to accept it? Would I continue to get popups about
> it? If not that might explain why this account stopped working.
>
> Any other suggestions welcome!
You do still have "Solved" in Subject line. Starting a new thread or
modifying the Subject might help.
--
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bP
From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au Mon Apr 3 07:20:13 2017
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 15:20:13 +1000
Subject: [Users] Address book defaults to lower case
In-Reply-To: <20170322143413.6b434b8c@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20170322092823.75bcfc1c@blackbox.home.karmasailing.uk>
<20170322103406.09e50760@anthra>
<20170322101125.0000126b@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20170322115535.334233b6@hiker>
<20170322143413.6b434b8c@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20170403152013.23b8c0b5@PPlive>
On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 14:34:13 +0000
Dave Howorth wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 11:55:35 +0100
> Andrej Kacian wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 10:11:25 +0000
> > Brian Morrison wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 10:34:06 +0100
> > > wwp wrote:
> > >
> > > > I can't believe a server wants capitalized names in email
> > > > addresses (or case sensitiveness in general). Would you show us
> > > > the error thrown by this server?
> > >
> > > Actually folks, the local part of the address before the @ should
> > > have case preserved, there are people who do use capitalized
> > > addresses in this way.
> > >
> >
> > You are both correct and incorrect (as is frequently the case with
> > RFCs).
> >
> > RFC 2821[1] manages to contradict itself. In section 2.4, it says:
> >
> > [...] The local-part of a mailbox
> > MUST BE treated as case sensitive. Therefore, SMTP
> > implementations MUST take care to preserve the case of mailbox
> > local-parts. Mailbox domains are not case sensitive. In
> > particular, for some hosts the user "smith" is different from the
> > user "Smith". However, exploiting the case sensitivity of mailbox
> > local-parts impedes interoperability and is discouraged.
> >
> > Then later, in section 4.1.2:
> >
> > While the above definition for Local-part is relatively
> > permissive, for maximum interoperability, a host that expects to
> > receive mail SHOULD avoid defining mailboxes where the Local-part
> > requires (or uses) the Quoted-string form or where the Local-part
> > is case- sensitive.
> >
> > Arguably, "MUST" takes precedence over "SHOULD".
No argument about it. Read section 2.3 Terminology.
Background: For many years I have been annoyed by technical documents
that devote large sections to defining the obvious. What happened was
that a couple of centuries ago the British parliament defined many of
these little terms and their interpretation in "new" laws - but this
happened after the American revolution (also known as the war of
independence). So, what is actually a difference of dialect was
prompting me to ask, "What is wrong with these people, didn't they go
to school?".
Much like Boolean algebra uses OR and XOR as two similar words that do
similar but different things because it is the least ugly way to do
what must be done, the Standards bodies have landed on the British
standard usage because they need a standard and the British one
exists.
> But in particular, the part in 2.4 does apply to claws, does it not?
> In terms of the address book, it must treat the local part as
> case-sensitive.
>
> Of course it can also comply with 4.1.2 in terms of mailboxes that it
> defines. The two sections are not contradictory.
>
> Or have I misunderstood something?
You are pretty much on the money.
Restating the RFC; case sensitive local parts are a bad thing, don't do
it, but if you encounter an email from an idiot be polite play along
and respect it.
As an edge case, "JohnSmith" is easier to read than "johnsmith" or
"JOHNSMITH" and I would use it as a readability aid, but I would expect
all capitalization variants to refer to the one user - even though it
is theoretically possible that there are 2**9 different John Smiths
involved.
> > 1. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2821
Not respecting capitalization, in the local part, is a bug not a
feature.
Sorry for the English lecture, but I am working off a few decades of
annoyance.
> > Regards,
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From andrej at kacian.sk Mon Apr 3 08:02:36 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 08:02:36 +0200
Subject: [Users] (Solved) Not downloading from Gmail
In-Reply-To: <20170403133242.6ec190c4@PPlive>
References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo>
<20161208213655.684898c6@pfortin.com>
<20161208191610.55f3f483@Devil-Bonobo>
<20161209084610.4223be07@kujata>
<20161209102245.3ead05a5@Devil-Bonobo>
<20170329154112.68dee9e8@Devil-Bonobo>
<20170403133242.6ec190c4@PPlive>
Message-ID: <20170403080236.42c67571@penny>
On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 13:32:42 +1000
blind Pete wrote:
> Is there any reason that CM can not remember that multiple certificates
> have been accepted, or is there some reason that accepting a new one
> must cause the previous one to be discarded?
No, no reason. You can even enable it with "unsafe_ssl_certs" hidden
preference (see user manual). It's just that it's usually a bad idea to
have it enabled by default, since sane providers stick to the good old
"one service, one certificate" rule.
Regards,
--
Andrej
From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 3 10:13:30 2017
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 09:13:30 +0100
Subject: [Users] Address book defaults to lower case
In-Reply-To: <20170403152013.23b8c0b5@PPlive>
References: <20170322092823.75bcfc1c@blackbox.home.karmasailing.uk>
<20170322103406.09e50760@anthra>
<20170322101125.0000126b@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20170322115535.334233b6@hiker>
<20170322143413.6b434b8c@acer-suse.lan>
<20170403152013.23b8c0b5@PPlive>
Message-ID: <20170403091330.76a2c49d@kujata>
On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 15:20:13 +1000
blind Pete wrote:
> Not respecting capitalization, in the local part, is a bug not a
> feature.
Anyway, the problem is that the address book doesn't allow you to
change case, rather than it insisting on lower case.
with regards
Paul
From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 3 14:35:56 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 12:35:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3802] New: IMAP folders turned into Local
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3802
Bug ID: 3802
Summary: IMAP folders turned into Local
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail
Version: 3.14.0
Hardware: PC
OS: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: Folders/IMAP
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: flammie at iki.fi
I have a problem, where the automatic fetching of the messages does not work
anymore, even though it is checked in the options and set to every N minutes.
Upon inspection I noticed that my two IMAP accounts show up in configuration as
Protocol: "Local". However, clicking the root folder of the accounts launches
IMAP fetch as usual. I checked accountrc and it says protocol=3. Is there
anything else I can do for debugging?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 3 15:50:30 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 13:50:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3802] IMAP folders turned into Local
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Paul changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |INVALID
--- Comment #1 from Paul ---
Change the protocol number to 1 for imap accounts.
The protocol numbers were changed a few version back, and the migration was
automatic. However, you've used a new post-migration version, and then
downgraded to a pre-migration version, the upgraded again.
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From jvromans at squirrel.nl Mon Apr 3 16:55:17 2017
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 16:55:17 +0200
Subject: [Users] Process mark and marked messages
Message-ID: <20170403165517.7dd36ec7@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Hi,
I have a new keyboard that has a slightly different layout, and I keep
hitting the DEL key by accident. To avoid losing messages in Claws, I
disabled "immediate processing of move and delete". It's a life saver.
However, I noticed the following:
When performing a move or delete on a message, it gets a process mark and
the subject text turns grey. But when the message already has an ordinary
mark (✓) its subject text does not turn grey, so there is no visual clue
that is has a processing mark.
Is this intentional?
-- Johan
From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 3 19:01:58 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 17:01:58 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3801] Broken auto wrapping
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3801
--- Comment #4 from Ralf Mardorf ---
Hi,
I compiled 3.15.0git17 and the issue seems to be fixed.
Regards,
Ralf
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Apr 4 01:01:26 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 23:01:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3793] Segfaults when master passphrase dialog is
launched in the middle of autocompletion
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3793
--- Comment #2 from Ricardo Mones ---
An alternative abort message also caused by this:
[xcb] Unknown request in queue while dequeuing
[xcb] Most likely this is a multi-threaded client and XInitThreads has not been
called
[xcb] Aborting, sorry about that.
claws-mail: ../../src/xcb_io.c:179: dequeue_pending_request: Assertion
`!xcb_xlib_unknown_req_in_deq' failed.
Aborted
(Amazing! :)
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Apr 4 06:00:31 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2017 04:00:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3801] Broken auto wrapping
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Ralf Mardorf changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED
Resolution|FIXED |---
--- Comment #5 from Ralf Mardorf ---
Hi,
this happened right now when composing a mail with 3.15.0git17:
====
There's no cpufreq/scaling_governor when running Linux running as a
gues
in
a
virtual
machine.
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2017-April/289831.html
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2017-April/289831.html
====
It might be that I made the typos, 2 times "running" and "gues", but I
definitively didn't push return after "gues", "in", "a" and "virtual".
First I copied the links, then I wrote the text above the links.
Regards,
Ralf
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From pf at pfortin.com Tue Apr 4 06:17:32 2017
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 00:17:32 -0400
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3801] Broken auto wrapping
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20170404001732.59eca85d@pfortin.com>
On Tue, 04 Apr 2017 04:00:31 +0000 noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:
>http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3801
>
>Ralf Mardorf changed:
>
> What |Removed |Added
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED
> Resolution|FIXED |---
>
>--- Comment #5 from Ralf Mardorf ---
>Hi,
>
>this happened right now when composing a mail with 3.15.0git17:
>
>====
>There's no cpufreq/scaling_governor when running Linux running as a
>gues
>in
>a
>virtual
>machine.
>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2017-April/289831.html
>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2017-April/289831.html
>====
>
>It might be that I made the typos, 2 times "running" and "gues", but I
>definitively didn't push return after "gues", "in", "a" and "virtual".
>First I copied the links, then I wrote the text above the links.
>
>Regards,
>Ralf
>
This issue has been around for many years. Most of it was resolved; but
it still occurs very randomly. The only thing I can add is that it
appears more likely when pasting confuses wrapping[1]; but that's still a
wild guess.
[1] like a counter not updated by length of pasted string
From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Apr 4 09:02:53 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2017 07:02:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3801] Broken auto wrapping
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3801
Paul changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |FIXED
--- Comment #6 from Paul ---
You reported this bug about Claws 3.15.0.r9.g7c16b7e35, there was a recent
change in git which caused this bug, that recent change was fixed. Any wrapping
issues you now see (I can no longer reproduce any problems) are not this bug,
but another. Therefore, I am closing this bug as this bug in particular is
fixed.
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From ricardo at mones.org Tue Apr 4 10:11:49 2017
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 10:11:49 +0200
Subject: [Users] (Solved) Not downloading from Gmail
In-Reply-To: <20170403080236.42c67571@penny>
References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo>
<20161208213655.684898c6@pfortin.com>
<20161208191610.55f3f483@Devil-Bonobo>
<20161209084610.4223be07@kujata>
<20161209102245.3ead05a5@Devil-Bonobo>
<20170329154112.68dee9e8@Devil-Bonobo>
<20170403133242.6ec190c4@PPlive> <20170403080236.42c67571@penny>
Message-ID: <20170404081148.GA15821@busgosu.mones.org>
On Mon, Apr 03, 2017 at 08:02:36AM +0200, Andrej Kacian wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 13:32:42 +1000
> blind Pete wrote:
>
> > Is there any reason that CM can not remember that multiple certificates
> > have been accepted, or is there some reason that accepting a new one
> > must cause the previous one to be discarded?
>
> No, no reason. You can even enable it with "unsafe_ssl_certs" hidden
> preference (see user manual). It's just that it's usually a bad idea to
> have it enabled by default, since sane providers stick to the good old
> "one service, one certificate" rule.
Since the domains causing most of the problems with this are usually
well known, maybe a better experience without accepting all those unsafe
certs could be turning that boolean preference into a list of regexp and
only skipping this check to the domains matching any of the regexp in
the list.
That way known annoyers can be added to the list, and certs from others
would still require a manual waiver. You could even have the original
unsafe_ssl_certs behaviour using the *.* regexp.
What do you think?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Apr 4 10:33:35 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2017 08:33:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3803] New: Can't send letters larger than 10kb via
IMAP without SSL/TLS
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3803
Bug ID: 3803
Summary: Can't send letters larger than 10kb via IMAP without
SSL/TLS
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
Version: 3.15.0
Hardware: PC
OS: Windows 7
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: default
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: nalimov at fintech.ru
I'm using opensource mail server hmailserver and Claws Mail client connected
via IMAP.
In case I do not use SSL / TLS, I encounter the following bug:
When I try to send a letter larger than ~10 kilobytes (no matter, with an
attachment or just with a long text), Claws Mail gives me the following
message:
Error: Could not queue message for sending.
Claws-Mail Network Log:
* Account 'accountname': Connecting to IMAP server: server.name:143...
[12:13:10] IMAP< * OK IMAPrev1
* IMAP connection is un-authenticated
[12:13:11] IMAP> 1 CAPABILITY
[12:13:11] IMAP< * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 CHILDREN IDLE QUOTA SORT ACL
NAMESPACE RIGHTS=texk
[12:13:11] IMAP< 1 OK CAPABILITY completed
[12:13:11] IMAP> Logging accountname at domain.name to server.name using plaintext
[12:13:11] IMAP< LOGIN completed
[12:13:11] IMAP< Login to server.name successful
[12:13:11] IMAP> 3 LIST "" ""
[12:13:11] IMAP< * LIST (\Noselect) "\\" ""
[12:13:11] IMAP< 3 OK LIST completed
[12:13:11] IMAP> 4 SELECT Queue
[12:13:11] IMAP< * 0 EXISTS
[12:13:11] IMAP< * 0 RECENT
[12:13:11] IMAP< * FLAGS (\Deleted \Seen \Draft \Answered \Flagged)
[12:13:11] IMAP< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1489512006] current uidvalidity
[12:13:11] IMAP< * OK [UIDNEXT 16] next uid
[12:13:11] IMAP< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Deleted \Seen \Draft \Answered
\Flagged)] limited
[12:13:11] IMAP< 4 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed
[12:13:11] IMAP- [fetching UIDs...]
[12:13:11] IMAP> 5 UID FETCH 1:* (UID)
[12:13:11] IMAP< 5 OK UID completed
[12:13:11] IMAP> 6 APPEND Queue (\Seen) {29003}
[12:13:11] IMAP< + Ready for literal data
[12:13:11] IMAP> [data - 8166 bytes]
[12:13:11] IMAP> [data - 8190 bytes]
[12:13:11] IMAP> [data - 8190 bytes]
** IMAP error on server.name: stream error
** IMAP connection broken
hMailServer log:
"DEBUG" 3060 "2017-04-04 12:21:45.733" "The read operation failed.
Bytes transferred: 0 Remote IP: ip_address, Session: 252, Code: 2, Message: End
of file"
"DEBUG" 3060 "2017-04-04 12:21:45.733" "Ending session 252"
When I try to save a message as a draft, Claws Mail gives me the following
message:
Error: could not save draft.
Network Log:
[12:23:03] IMAP> 6 APPEND Drafts (\Seen) {28938}
[12:23:03] IMAP< + Ready for literal data
[12:23:03] IMAP> [data - 8179 bytes]
[12:23:03] IMAP> [data - 8190 bytes]
[12:23:03] IMAP> [data - 8190 bytes]
** IMAP error on server.name: stream error
** IMAP connection broken
BUT! If I use SSL/TLS connection, the message is sent or saved as a draft
without errors.
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From silver.bullet at zoho.com Tue Apr 4 11:30:36 2017
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 11:30:36 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3801] Broken auto wrapping
In-Reply-To: <20170404001732.59eca85d@pfortin.com>
References:
<20170404001732.59eca85d@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20170404113036.73b6e3b7@utnubu>
On Tue, 4 Apr 2017 00:17:32 -0400, Pierre Fortin wrote:
>This issue has been around for many years. Most of it was resolved; but
>it still occurs very randomly. The only thing I can add is that it
>appears more likely when pasting confuses wrapping[1]; but that's
>still a wild guess.
>
>[1] like a counter not updated by length of pasted string
Hi,
I'm using Claws since 30 Oct 2014. I can't remember that this happened
for >= 3.11.0 up to <= 3.14.1-19-ge7206c0 and maybe it was just good
luck, but even 3.15.0-1-g9782061 was ok. If that should have happened
before, than at least that seldom, that I didn't care about it. I can't
remember that suddenly a line break happened after each word.
I hope you are right and it just happened by random for
3.15.0.r17.g2736853ff and will not happen that often as it did for
3.15.0.r9.g7c16b7e35.
Regards,
Ralf
From kardan at riseup.net Wed Apr 5 10:33:45 2017
From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 10:33:45 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail tries to connect in offline-mode
Message-ID: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net>
Hi,
how can I stop claws-mail from connecting to mail providers? Although
activated offline-mode it always tries to connect, when I switch a
folder. I want to have control over outgoing connections.
Also I would like to disable the dialog "Switch to online mode for
synchronisation?"
Practically I want to search in archived mails without updating the
archive. For the moment rgrep is more useful for that.
Should I open a bug report?
Best,
kardan
From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Apr 5 10:41:41 2017
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 09:41:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail tries to connect in offline-mode
In-Reply-To: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net>
References: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net>
Message-ID: <20170405094141.7fb0bd43@kujata>
On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 10:33:45 +0200
kardan wrote:
> how can I stop claws-mail from connecting to mail providers?
> Although activated offline-mode it always tries to connect, when I
> switch a folder. I want to have control over outgoing connections.
> Also I would like to disable the dialog "Switch to online mode for
> synchronisation?"
BY 'always tries to connect' do you mean that the 'switch to online
mode' dialogue is shown? If that's the case, then it asks you whether
you want to rather than just trying to go online. Just choose the
'No' button in that dialogue and you're done.
with regards
Paul
From kardan at riseup.net Wed Apr 5 11:04:17 2017
From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 11:04:17 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail tries to connect in offline-mode
In-Reply-To: <20170405094141.7fb0bd43@kujata>
References: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net>
<20170405094141.7fb0bd43@kujata>
Message-ID: <20170405110417.5bdcd4d9@riseup.net>
On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 09:41:41 +0100
Paul wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 10:33:45 +0200
> kardan wrote:
>
> > how can I stop claws-mail from connecting to mail providers?
> > Although activated offline-mode it always tries to connect, when I
> > switch a folder. I want to have control over outgoing connections.
> > Also I would like to disable the dialog "Switch to online mode for
> > synchronisation?"
>
> BY 'always tries to connect' do you mean that the 'switch to online
> mode' dialogue is shown?
No, it actually tries to connect.
> If that's the case, then it asks you whether
> you want to rather than just trying to go online. Just choose the
> 'No' button in that dialogue and you're done.
I don't want to be asked everytime.
> with regards
>
> Paul
Thanks!
kardan
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Apr 5 11:27:29 2017
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 10:27:29 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail tries to connect in offline-mode
In-Reply-To: <20170405110417.5bdcd4d9@riseup.net>
References: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net>
<20170405094141.7fb0bd43@kujata>
<20170405110417.5bdcd4d9@riseup.net>
Message-ID: <20170405102729.1f3cf5a8@kujata>
On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 11:04:17 +0200
kardan wrote:
> No, it actually tries to connect.
Why do you think it tries to connect?
> > If that's the case, then it asks you whether
> > you want to rather than just trying to go online. Just choose the
> > 'No' button in that dialogue and you're done.
>
> I don't want to be asked everytime.
You are talking about the 'Folder synchronisation' dialogue, which
offers [Cancel] and [Synchronise] buttons.
So your request is only that you don't want to be asked every time?
with regards
Paul
From kardan at riseup.net Wed Apr 5 11:43:09 2017
From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 11:43:09 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail tries to connect in offline-mode
In-Reply-To: <20170405102729.1f3cf5a8@kujata>
References: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net>
<20170405094141.7fb0bd43@kujata>
<20170405110417.5bdcd4d9@riseup.net>
<20170405102729.1f3cf5a8@kujata>
Message-ID: <20170405114309.30301645@riseup.net>
Hi Paul,
On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 10:27:29 +0100
Paul wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 11:04:17 +0200
> kardan wrote:
>
> > No, it actually tries to connect.
My wording was not corret. It connects and tries to login.
> Why do you think it tries to connect?
This is what happens:
1. activate offline mode. The dialogue appears "Do you want to
synchronise folders now?" - 'No', I want to enable offline mode, dammit.
2. select a folder. the network log reads:
* Account 'ng': Connecting to IMAP server: .net:993...
[11:35:35] IMAP< * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR
LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE IDLE AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=LOGIN] Dovecot ready.
* IMAP connection is un-authenticated
[11:35:36] IMAP> 1 CAPABILITY
[11:35:36] IMAP< * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR
LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE IDLE AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=LOGIN
[11:35:36] IMAP< 1 OK Pre-login capabilities listed, post-login
capabilities have more.
[11:35:36] IMAP> Logging kardan@ to .net
using PLAIN
[11:35:39] IMAP< Authentication failed.
** IMAP error on .net: LOGIN error
[11:35:39] IMAP< Error logging in to .net
[11:35:39] IMAP> Logging kardan@ to .net
using LOGIN
[11:35:47] IMAP< Authentication failed.
** IMAP error on .net: LOGIN error
[11:35:47] IMAP< Error logging in to .net
[11:35:47] IMAP> Logging kardan@ to .net
using plaintext
[11:35:54] IMAP< Authentication failed.
** IMAP error on .net: LOGIN error
[11:35:54] IMAP< Error logging in to .net
*** Connection to .net failed: login refused.
[11:35:56] IMAP> 5 LOGOUT
[11:35:57] IMAP< * BYE Logging out
[11:35:57] IMAP< 5 OK Logout completed.
It tries three times to login, shows a password dialogue and gives up.
> > I don't want to be asked everytime.
>
> You are talking about the 'Folder synchronisation' dialogue, which
> offers [Cancel] and [Synchronise] buttons.
>
> So your request is only that you don't want to be asked every time?
Yes. (Whatever 'only' is supposed to mean here.)
Thanks!
kardan
From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Apr 5 11:49:56 2017
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 10:49:56 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail tries to connect in offline-mode
In-Reply-To: <20170405114309.30301645@riseup.net>
References: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net>
<20170405094141.7fb0bd43@kujata>
<20170405110417.5bdcd4d9@riseup.net>
<20170405102729.1f3cf5a8@kujata>
<20170405114309.30301645@riseup.net>
Message-ID: <20170405104956.24b1fd22@kujata>
On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 11:43:09 +0200
kardan wrote:
> My wording was not corret. It connects and tries to login.
It doesn't do that here. Offline is offline. What version of
claws-mail are you using?
> Yes. (Whatever 'only' is supposed to mean here.)
'Only' in this context, means that the /only/ thing I see in your
message is a request to not be asked every time you go offline.
with regards
Paul
From kardan at riseup.net Wed Apr 5 15:02:23 2017
From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 15:02:23 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail tries to connect in offline-mode
In-Reply-To: <20170405104956.24b1fd22@kujata>
References: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net>
<20170405094141.7fb0bd43@kujata>
<20170405110417.5bdcd4d9@riseup.net>
<20170405102729.1f3cf5a8@kujata>
<20170405114309.30301645@riseup.net>
<20170405104956.24b1fd22@kujata>
Message-ID: <20170405150223.39d18f00@riseup.net>
On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 10:49:56 +0100
Paul wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 11:43:09 +0200
> kardan wrote:
>
> > My wording was not corret. It connects and tries to login.
>
> It doesn't do that here.
The network log showed that it tried to login. Why do you think it is
not true?
> Offline is offline. What version of
> claws-mail are you using?
3.14.1
From ricardo at mones.org Wed Apr 5 15:21:13 2017
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 15:21:13 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail tries to connect in offline-mode
In-Reply-To: <20170405150223.39d18f00@riseup.net>
References: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net>
<20170405094141.7fb0bd43@kujata>
<20170405110417.5bdcd4d9@riseup.net>
<20170405102729.1f3cf5a8@kujata>
<20170405114309.30301645@riseup.net>
<20170405104956.24b1fd22@kujata>
<20170405150223.39d18f00@riseup.net>
Message-ID: <20170405132113.GB15821@busgosu.mones.org>
On Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 03:02:23PM +0200, kardan wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 10:49:56 +0100
> Paul wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 11:43:09 +0200
> > kardan wrote:
> >
> > > My wording was not corret. It connects and tries to login.
> >
> > It doesn't do that here.
>
> The network log showed that it tried to login. Why do you think it is
> not true?
Nobody said it wasn't true. And only Paul knows what Paul thinks ;)
That problem you describe it's very unlikely to happen unless something
very weird is happening in your Claws Mail or operating system.
> > Offline is offline. What version of
> > claws-mail are you using?
>
> 3.14.1
Built from source or packaged? Which system is yours?
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From kardan at riseup.net Wed Apr 5 21:17:52 2017
From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 21:17:52 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail tries to connect in offline-mode
In-Reply-To: <20170405132113.GB15821@busgosu.mones.org>
References: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net>
<20170405094141.7fb0bd43@kujata>
<20170405110417.5bdcd4d9@riseup.net>
<20170405102729.1f3cf5a8@kujata>
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Message-ID: <20170405211752.7bffc99d@riseup.net>
On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 15:21:13 +0200
Ricardo Mones wrote:
> That problem you describe it's very unlikely to happen unless
> something very weird is happening in your Claws Mail or operating
> system.
Maybe this is a configuration issue?
> > > Offline is offline. What version of
> > > claws-mail are you using?
> >
> > 3.14.1
>
> Built from source or packaged? Which system is yours?
It's the packaged version for Debian stretch. I can try with the latest
version from git later tonight.
Best,
Kardan
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 6 00:52:40 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2017 22:52:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2581] expander arrows are too tiny to hit with the
mouse
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2581
Ricardo Mones changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |FIXED
--- Comment #7 from Ricardo Mones ---
Fixed in 2012.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 6 01:55:49 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2017 23:55:49 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3804] New: Trying to delete folders that don't exist:
fail
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3804
Bug ID: 3804
Summary: Trying to delete folders that don't exist: fail
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail
Version: 3.13.2
Hardware: PC
OS: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: Folders/IMAP
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: claws-mail at ch.pkts.ca
I use CM and Outlook (Web Access). I deleted a folder on the server using
Outlook, and then tried to delete the same folder in CM, but get the error
"Can't remove the folder XXXX".
The funny thing is, the network log says this:
[16:53:11] IMAP4< * STATUS Tasks (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 1 UIDVALIDITY 70 UNSEEN 0)
[16:53:11] IMAP4< 15 OK STATUS completed.
[16:53:16] IMAP4> 16 UNSUBSCRIBE "Impersonal emails/XXX"
[16:53:16] IMAP4< 16 OK UNSUBSCRIBE completed.
[16:53:16] IMAP4> 17 DELETE "Impersonal emails/XXX"
[16:53:16] IMAP4< 17 NO The requested item could not be found.
** IMAP error on ballard.amazon.com: DELETE error
[16:53:16] IMAP4> 18 DELETE "Impersonal emails/XXX/"
[16:53:16] IMAP4< 18 NO The requested item could not be found.
** IMAP error on ballard.amazon.com: DELETE error
** can't delete mailbox
[16:53:16] IMAP4> 19 SELECT "Impersonal emails/XXX"
[16:53:16] IMAP4< 19 NO "Impersonal emails/XXX" doesn't exist.
** IMAP error on ballard.amazon.com: SELECT error
** can't select folder: Impersonal emails/XXX
In short, I can't delete the folder because it doesn't exist.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 6 01:58:47 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2017 23:58:47 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3804] Trying to delete folders that don't exist: fail
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3804
--- Comment #1 from Pd ---
Apparently, if I unsubscribe from the folder first, then I can delete it.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 6 10:40:11 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2017 08:40:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3804] Better handling of deleting a non-existent IMAP
folder
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3804
Andrej Kacian changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Summary|Trying to delete folders |Better handling of deleting
|that don't exist: fail |a non-existent IMAP folder
Severity|normal |enhancement
--- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian ---
Function imap_remove_folder_real() could be improved:
If the DELETE command gets a NO response, check whether the folder exists on
server side (STATUS, LIST or LSUB command, probably the first one to make it
simple), and if not, just continue with cleanup on client side as if DELETE
succeeded.
(In reply to comment #1)
> Apparently, if I unsubscribe from the folder first, then I can delete it.
Could please you post the protocol log from this action too?
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From nalimov at fintech.ru Thu Apr 6 11:54:39 2017
From: nalimov at fintech.ru (=?koi8-r?B?7sHMyc3P1yD0yc3V0iD3zMHEyc3J0s/Xyd4=?=)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 09:54:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] Strange error when sending
Message-ID: <944E6BD247E2DE4B94CA8071A458B33679F5E1ED@E2K7.fintech.ru>
Hello!
I ran into an incomprehensible mistake, made a bugreport (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3803), but I did not get any reaction.
Perhaps, such a mistake occurs at someone else. If you have met with a similar problem and have been able to solve it - please write to me about this.
Thank you in advance!
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From: lists-claws at listmail.innovate.net (Richard)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2017 11:49:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] Strange error when sending
In-Reply-To: <944E6BD247E2DE4B94CA8071A458B33679F5E1ED@E2K7.fintech.ru>
References: <944E6BD247E2DE4B94CA8071A458B33679F5E1ED@E2K7.fintech.ru>
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------------ Original Message ------------
> Date: Thursday, April 06, 2017 09:54:39 +0000
> From: Налимов Тимур Владимирович
>
> Hello!
> I ran into an incomprehensible mistake, made a bugreport
> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=
> 3803), but I did not get any reaction. Perhaps, such a mistake
> occurs at someone else. If you have met with a similar problem and
> have been able to solve it - please write to me about this.
>
> Thank you in advance!
>
> Timur
>
>
I'm going to guess that the server you are connecting to doesn't
intend to support unencrypted sessions, but isn't configured
correctly so doesn't reject them outright. E.g., it appears to let
you send your credentials unencrypted, but then doesn't start up the
data connection. In short, rather than properly turning off IMAP/143
and forcing people to IMAPS/993, they left 143 open in the worst way
possible (accepting unencrypted credentials).
If CM is configured to save the draft to the server and the server
isn't configured properly (so CM can't make a successful connection),
there isn't a lot that CM can do. So, this looks like a server, not
CM, issue/error. [and perhaps a service provider to move away from.]
The solution would seem to be to configure your CM instance to use
IMAPS/993, as you indicate that that works.
From andrej at kacian.sk Thu Apr 6 14:19:12 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 14:19:12 +0200
Subject: [Users] Strange error when sending
In-Reply-To: <31AB2CCE7580A9CCEB8C285C@ritz.innovate.net>
References: <944E6BD247E2DE4B94CA8071A458B33679F5E1ED@E2K7.fintech.ru>
<31AB2CCE7580A9CCEB8C285C@ritz.innovate.net>
Message-ID: <20170406141912.55e386b1@hiker>
On Thu, 06 Apr 2017 11:49:45 +0000
Richard wrote:
>
>
> ------------ Original Message ------------
> > Date: Thursday, April 06, 2017 09:54:39 +0000
> > From: Налимов Тимур Владимирович
>
> >
> > Hello!
> > I ran into an incomprehensible mistake, made a bugreport
> > (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=
> > 3803), but I did not get any reaction. Perhaps, such a mistake
> > occurs at someone else. If you have met with a similar problem and
> > have been able to solve it - please write to me about this.
> >
> > Thank you in advance!
> >
> > Timur
> >
> >
>
> I'm going to guess that the server you are connecting to doesn't
> intend to support unencrypted sessions, but isn't configured
> correctly so doesn't reject them outright. E.g., it appears to let
> you send your credentials unencrypted, but then doesn't start up the
> data connection. In short, rather than properly turning off IMAP/143
> and forcing people to IMAPS/993, they left 143 open in the worst way
> possible (accepting unencrypted credentials).
>
> If CM is configured to save the draft to the server and the server
> isn't configured properly (so CM can't make a successful connection),
> there isn't a lot that CM can do. So, this looks like a server, not
> CM, issue/error. [and perhaps a service provider to move away from.]
>
> The solution would seem to be to configure your CM instance to use
> IMAPS/993, as you indicate that that works.
No, there really is a bug in Claws Mail. I was able to reproduce it,
and will be trying to fix it. Unfortunately, it looks like a result of a
memory corruption somewhere else in the code - and this kind of bugs is
hard to track down.
Regards,
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 6 21:38:41 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2017 19:38:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3804] Better handling of deleting a non-existent IMAP
folder
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3804
--- Comment #3 from Pd ---
Apologies, but today I created a folder in CM, deleted it with OWA, and then
successfully deleted it in CM.
I'm pretty sure I could reproduce the error by deleting one of my other
long-lived folders (created at the same time and in the same way as the problem
folders), but they've got lots of mail in them and I've got them set up with
tons of filtering rules. I really don't want to delete them. :-/
In short, I'm not sure how to reproduce the problem now.
Is there an easy way to show every property about a folder on the imap server
AND in CM? Then I could create a new folder and tweak it until it exactly
matches an existing folder except for the name. Hopefully that should
reproduce the problem.
Thanks.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 7 01:34:35 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2017 23:34:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2716] bigger triangular buttons in folder tree
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2716
Ricardo Mones changed:
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From olaf at aepfle.de Fri Apr 7 07:59:00 2017
From: olaf at aepfle.de (Olaf Hering)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 07:59:00 +0200
Subject: [Users] failed SMTP auth does not ask for new password
Message-ID: <20170407075541.6ce0ee0f.olaf@aepfle.de>
While trying to send an email I entered the wrong SMTP password. In the logs I see the 501 response from the server. When I try to send the message again CM will reuse the existing password, instead of asking for a new one. Is there any code in CM which would ask for a new password? If so, perhaps the "failed auth" response is not parsed properly.
I noticed my provider responds with 535, as shown below, and CM recognizes that a different password is needed.
Olaf
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* Konto: 'u at h': Verbinde mit SMTP-Server: host:25...
[07:53:04] SMTP< 220 host GroupWise Internet Agent 14.2.1 Copyright 1993-2016 Novell, Inc., a Micro Focus Company. All rights reserved. Ready
[07:53:04] ESMTP> EHLO sender
[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-host
[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-AUTH LOGIN
[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME
[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-SIZE
[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-DSN
[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250 STARTTLS
[07:53:04] ESMTP> STARTTLS
[07:53:04] ESMTP< 220 Ready to start TLS
[07:53:04] ESMTP> EHLO sender
[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-host
[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-AUTH LOGIN
[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME
[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-SIZE
[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250 DSN
[07:53:04] ESMTP> AUTH LOGIN
[07:53:04] ESMTP< 334 whatever
[07:53:04] ESMTP> [USERID]
[07:53:04] ESMTP< 334 whatever
[07:53:04] ESMTP> [PASSWORD]
[07:53:08] ESMTP< 501 Authentication failed
** Fehler bei der SMTP-Sitzung
*** Fehler beim Senden der Nachricht:
501 Authentication failed
[07:53:08] IMAP- [fetching flags...]
[07:53:08] IMAP> 3594 UID FETCH 1:* (FLAGS UID)
....
...
* Konto: 'olaf at aepfle.de': Verbinde mit SMTP-Server: smtp.strato.de:25...
[07:55:53] SMTP< 220 smtp.strato.de ESMTP RZmta 40.4 ready (mo31)
[07:55:53] ESMTP> EHLO sender
[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-smtp.strato.de greets 62.216.207.153
[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-PIPELINING
[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME
[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-DELIVERBY
[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-SIZE 104857600
[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-AUTH DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN
[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-STARTTLS
[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-BURL imap
[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-CHUNKING
[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250 HELP
[07:55:54] ESMTP> STARTTLS
[07:55:54] ESMTP< 220 Ready to start TLS
[07:55:54] ESMTP> EHLO sender
[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-smtp.strato.de greets 62.216.207.153
[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-PIPELINING
[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME
[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-DELIVERBY
[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-SIZE 104857600
[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-AUTH DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN
[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-BURL imap
[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-CHUNKING
[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250 HELP
[07:55:54] ESMTP> AUTH CRAM-MD5
[07:55:54] ESMTP< 334 whatever
[07:55:54] ESMTP< [Decoded: whatever]
[07:55:54] ESMTP> [Encoded: whatever]
[07:55:54] ESMTP> whatever
[07:55:58] ESMTP< 535 5.7.8 Authentication failed: wrong user/password
** Fehler beim Authentifizieren
*** Authentifizierung schlug fehl:
535 5.7.8 Authentication failed: wrong user/password
[07:55:58] IMAP> 2101 SELECT Queue
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From mir at miras.org Fri Apr 7 08:06:50 2017
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2017 08:06:50 +0200
Subject: [Users] failed SMTP auth does not ask for new password
In-Reply-To: <20170407075541.6ce0ee0f.olaf@aepfle.de>
References: <20170407075541.6ce0ee0f.olaf@aepfle.de>
Message-ID:
Edit account dialog is where you change password.
On April 7, 2017 7:59:00 AM GMT+02:00, Olaf Hering wrote:
>While trying to send an email I entered the wrong SMTP password. In the
>logs I see the 501 response from the server. When I try to send the
>message again CM will reuse the existing password, instead of asking
>for a new one. Is there any code in CM which would ask for a new
>password? If so, perhaps the "failed auth" response is not parsed
>properly.
>
>I noticed my provider responds with 535, as shown below, and CM
>recognizes that a different password is needed.
>
>Olaf
>
>...
>* Konto: 'u at h': Verbinde mit SMTP-Server: host:25...
>[07:53:04] SMTP< 220 host GroupWise Internet Agent 14.2.1 Copyright
>1993-2016 Novell, Inc., a Micro Focus Company. All rights reserved.
>Ready
>[07:53:04] ESMTP> EHLO sender
>[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-host
>[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-AUTH LOGIN
>[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME
>[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-SIZE
>[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-DSN
>[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250 STARTTLS
>[07:53:04] ESMTP> STARTTLS
>[07:53:04] ESMTP< 220 Ready to start TLS
>[07:53:04] ESMTP> EHLO sender
>[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-host
>[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-AUTH LOGIN
>[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME
>[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-SIZE
>[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250 DSN
>[07:53:04] ESMTP> AUTH LOGIN
>[07:53:04] ESMTP< 334 whatever
>[07:53:04] ESMTP> [USERID]
>[07:53:04] ESMTP< 334 whatever
>[07:53:04] ESMTP> [PASSWORD]
>[07:53:08] ESMTP< 501 Authentication failed
>** Fehler bei der SMTP-Sitzung
>*** Fehler beim Senden der Nachricht:
>501 Authentication failed
>[07:53:08] IMAP- [fetching flags...]
>[07:53:08] IMAP> 3594 UID FETCH 1:* (FLAGS UID)
>....
>
>...
>* Konto: 'olaf at aepfle.de': Verbinde mit SMTP-Server:
>smtp.strato.de:25...
>[07:55:53] SMTP< 220 smtp.strato.de ESMTP RZmta 40.4 ready (mo31)
>[07:55:53] ESMTP> EHLO sender
>[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-smtp.strato.de greets 62.216.207.153
>[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
>[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-PIPELINING
>[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME
>[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-DELIVERBY
>[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-SIZE 104857600
>[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-AUTH DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN
>[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-STARTTLS
>[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-BURL imap
>[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-CHUNKING
>[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250 HELP
>[07:55:54] ESMTP> STARTTLS
>[07:55:54] ESMTP< 220 Ready to start TLS
>[07:55:54] ESMTP> EHLO sender
>[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-smtp.strato.de greets 62.216.207.153
>[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
>[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-PIPELINING
>[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME
>[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-DELIVERBY
>[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-SIZE 104857600
>[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-AUTH DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN
>[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-BURL imap
>[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-CHUNKING
>[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250 HELP
>[07:55:54] ESMTP> AUTH CRAM-MD5
>[07:55:54] ESMTP< 334 whatever
>[07:55:54] ESMTP< [Decoded: whatever]
>[07:55:54] ESMTP> [Encoded: whatever]
>[07:55:54] ESMTP> whatever
>[07:55:58] ESMTP< 535 5.7.8 Authentication failed: wrong user/password
>** Fehler beim Authentifizieren
>*** Authentifizierung schlug fehl:
>535 5.7.8 Authentication failed: wrong user/password
>[07:55:58] IMAP> 2101 SELECT Queue
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From olaf at aepfle.de Fri Apr 7 08:09:57 2017
From: olaf at aepfle.de (Olaf Hering)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 08:09:57 +0200
Subject: [Users] failed SMTP auth does not ask for new password
In-Reply-To:
References: <20170407075541.6ce0ee0f.olaf@aepfle.de>
Message-ID: <20170407080957.5997b2fb.olaf@aepfle.de>
Am Fri, 07 Apr 2017 08:06:50 +0200
schrieb Michael Rasmussen :
> Edit account dialog is where you change password.
No. Only when the passwords are stored in the settings.
But as a workaround I may use that now to get the message out.
Thanks for pointing that out.
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 7 09:22:20 2017
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 08:22:20 +0100
Subject: [Users] failed SMTP auth does not ask for new password
In-Reply-To: <20170407080957.5997b2fb.olaf@aepfle.de>
References: <20170407075541.6ce0ee0f.olaf@aepfle.de>
<20170407080957.5997b2fb.olaf@aepfle.de>
Message-ID: <20170407082220.5b723949@kujata>
On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 08:09:57 +0200
Olaf Hering wrote:
> No. Only when the passwords are stored in the settings.
> But as a workaround I may use that now to get the message out.
> Thanks for pointing that out.
In the main menu:
/Tools/Forget all session passwords
with regards
Paul
From kieakl at ihug.co.nz Fri Apr 7 11:01:40 2017
From: kieakl at ihug.co.nz (kangaroo)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 21:01:40 +1200
Subject: [Users] Attachments do not show in sent folder list
Message-ID: <20170407210140.0000110d@ihug.co.nz>
I don't know if this is a bug or a preference. I have looked thru the preference settings and did not see anything specific for attachments in sent emails.
If I send an email with an attachment and then go to the sent folder list, the attachment icon does not show next to the sent email. I have to select the sent email to get the attachment icon to appear. Once it appears then it stays visible and does not disappear if I swap folders, stop / start program etc.
On occasions I want to scan thru the email list looking for emails with attachments, because of the above this does not work because the attachment icon may not show. I would expect the attachement icon to show if I have that column in the headers and the email has an attachment, I should not have to select the email to get the icon to appear.
Using Win 10, version 3.14.1 32 bit
From edwardp at linuxmail.org Sat Apr 8 01:23:02 2017
From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 19:23:02 -0400
Subject: [Users] Gmail Secure Certificates
Message-ID: <20170407192302.371b0e3b@downstairs>
For the past several days, when I have tried to receive and send e-mail
via Gmail, Claws Mail displays a window that the secure certificates
for imap.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com have changed and asks what to do.
This is starting to become rather annoying. I fail to see how their
secure certificates can change on a daily basis, unless Google is
having 'issues'.
Is this a problem with Claws, or is this actually on Google's end? I
would prefer not to file a bug report if it's not an issue directly with
Claws.
Thanks. :)
Ed
From andrej at kacian.sk Sat Apr 8 02:02:22 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2017 02:02:22 +0200
Subject: [Users] Gmail Secure Certificates
In-Reply-To: <20170407192302.371b0e3b@downstairs>
References: <20170407192302.371b0e3b@downstairs>
Message-ID: <20170408020222.7eba362f@penny>
On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 19:23:02 -0400
wrote:
> For the past several days, when I have tried to receive and send e-mail
> via Gmail, Claws Mail displays a window that the secure certificates
> for imap.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com have changed and asks what to do.
>
> This is starting to become rather annoying. I fail to see how their
> secure certificates can change on a daily basis, unless Google is
> having 'issues'.
>
> Is this a problem with Claws, or is this actually on Google's end? I
> would prefer not to file a bug report if it's not an issue directly with
> Claws.
Since gmail has the service loadbalanced across several actual servers,
their certificates are sometimes out of sync.
You can enable 'Automatically accept valid SSL/TLS certificates' option
in account preferences, which should help if your system has up to
date CA certificates bundle, and recognizes gmail's certificates as
valid.
Regards,
--
Andrej
From edwardp at linuxmail.org Sat Apr 8 02:20:18 2017
From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 20:20:18 -0400
Subject: [Users] Gmail Secure Certificates
In-Reply-To: <20170408020222.7eba362f@penny>
References: <20170407192302.371b0e3b@downstairs>
<20170408020222.7eba362f@penny>
Message-ID: <20170407202018.28b74d62@downstairs>
On Sat, 8 Apr 2017 02:02:22 +0200
Andrej Kacian wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 19:23:02 -0400
> wrote:
>
> > For the past several days, when I have tried to receive and send
> > e-mail via Gmail, Claws Mail displays a window that the secure
> > certificates for imap.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com have changed and
> > asks what to do.
> >
> > This is starting to become rather annoying. I fail to see how their
> > secure certificates can change on a daily basis, unless Google is
> > having 'issues'.
> >
> > Is this a problem with Claws, or is this actually on Google's end? I
> > would prefer not to file a bug report if it's not an issue directly
> > with Claws.
>
> Since gmail has the service loadbalanced across several actual
> servers, their certificates are sometimes out of sync.
>
> You can enable 'Automatically accept valid SSL/TLS certificates'
> option in account preferences, which should help if your system has
> up to date CA certificates bundle, and recognizes gmail's
> certificates as valid.
>
> Regards,
Fedora has an updated ca-certificates package for Fedora 25, that is in
testing, currently. I will wait until it's released before making the
above change.
Thanks for the reply.
From myetto1 at nycap.rr.com Sat Apr 8 04:39:44 2017
From: myetto1 at nycap.rr.com (Michael A. Yetto)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 22:39:44 -0400
Subject: [Users] Gmail Secure Certificates
In-Reply-To: <20170407202018.28b74d62@downstairs>
References: <20170407192302.371b0e3b@downstairs>
<20170408020222.7eba362f@penny>
<20170407202018.28b74d62@downstairs>
Message-ID: <20170407223944.4e411274@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 20:20:18 -0400
writes, and having writ moves on:
>On Sat, 8 Apr 2017 02:02:22 +0200
>Andrej Kacian wrote:
>> Since gmail has the service loadbalanced across several actual
>> servers, their certificates are sometimes out of sync.
>>
>> You can enable 'Automatically accept valid SSL/TLS certificates'
>> option in account preferences, which should help if your system has
>> up to date CA certificates bundle, and recognizes gmail's
>> certificates as valid.
>>
>> Regards,
>
>Fedora has an updated ca-certificates package for Fedora 25, that is in
>testing, currently. I will wait until it's released before making the
>above change.
I made the above change several months ago and It solved the problem
immediately.
Mike Yetto
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 8 22:55:16 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2017 20:55:16 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3803] Can't send letters larger than 10kb via IMAP
without SSL/TLS
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3803
Andrej Kacian changed:
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Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE
--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian ---
*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 2262 ***
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 8 22:55:16 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2017 20:55:16 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2262] Frequent occurrences of "Could not queue message
for sending"
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Andrej Kacian changed:
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--- Comment #13 from Andrej Kacian ---
*** Bug 3803 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 8 22:58:41 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2017 20:58:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2262] Frequent occurrences of "Could not queue message
for sending"
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Andrej Kacian changed:
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Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |FIXED
--- Comment #14 from Andrej Kacian ---
Fixed in commits
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws-win32-installer.git;a=commitdiff;h=a9eee6
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws-win32-installer.git;a=commitdiff;h=859187
The patch is somewhat heavy-handed, but it should suffice.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 9 04:38:31 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2017 02:38:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3805] New: getting claws mail set-up
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3805
Bug ID: 3805
Summary: getting claws mail set-up
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail
Version: 3.15.0
Hardware: Other
OS: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: major
Priority: P3
Component: Plugins/Python
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: rkl1east at gmail.com
most likely its me not a bug, i set up an email using claws mail on a raspberry
pi3. everything went fine, except i cannot send out or receive mail. when i
attempt to send i get "An error happened during SMTP session.
Use "Send queued messages" from the main window to retry." any assistance would
be great thanks.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 9 11:18:50 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2017 09:18:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3805] getting claws mail set-up
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Paul changed:
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--- Comment #1 from Paul ---
This is a bug tracker, not a help forum. Please use either the users' mailing
list or #claws IRC channel for support: http://www.claws-mail.org/MLs.php
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 9 20:17:50 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2017 18:17:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3806] New: HTML emails hang
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3806
Bug ID: 3806
Summary: HTML emails hang
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
Version: 3.15.0
Hardware: PC
OS: Windows 7
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: default
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: wazz at ellijay.com
Installed the latest 64bit Claws, and trying to open HTML emails causes Claws
to hang.
Reverted back to the earlier 3.14.1 64bit, and all is well.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 10 07:41:41 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 05:41:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3806] HTML emails hang
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Does this happen on all HTML e-mails, or just some of them?
What if you install latest 3.15.0-1, but 32-bit version (uninstall the 64-bit
version first)?
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From jaccode at virginmedia.com Mon Apr 10 12:20:14 2017
From: jaccode at virginmedia.com (Jack)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 12:20:14 +0200
Subject: [Users] Autoconfig does not support port 465 in SRV record
Message-ID:
Hello,
Virgin Media uses SSL/TLS on port 465 for email submission via SMTP:
$ dig _submission._tcp.virginmedia.com -t SRV +short
0 1 465 smtp.virginmedia.com.
https://help.virginmedia.com/system/templates/selfservice/vm/help/customer/locale/en-GB/portal/200300000001000/article/HELP-2203/Email-Settings-for-all-Virgin-Media-domains
Claws Mail supports SRV records for autoconfiguration. Unfortunately, it always assumes that STARTTLS (=explicit SSL/TLS) is used for SMTP. But in this case I need implicit SSL/TLS on port 465.
I would like to suggest that the autoconfig wizard in Claws Mail tests if STARTTLS works for SMTP. If it doesn't, it should try implicit SSL/TLS.
If this is not possible to implement, I suggest that implicit SSL/TLS is always used for port 465. It is very unlikely that someone would be running STARTTLS on port 465. Ports 25 and 587 are commonly used for STARTTLS.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 10 21:23:03 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 19:23:03 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3807] New: Decrypting AES encrypted passwords (for
backups), configure password store
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3807
Bug ID: 3807
Summary: Decrypting AES encrypted passwords (for backups),
configure password store
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail
Version: 3.14.0
Hardware: PC
OS: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: minor
Priority: P3
Component: Plugins/Privacy/PGP
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: max_musterman256 at web.de
"The 3.14.0 release implements a completely new password storage backend."
Though I did not find a description in the manual for it (searching for
password). Origin is a problem about a forgotten password and I have GPG
installed/compiled according to the manual.
In ~/.claws-mail/passwordstorerc the password should be saved though mine seems
to be recv {AES-256-CBC,50000}LONG_AES_KEY...
I guess this is GPG dependent, since a GPG key is used with this account.
How does the decription work? Can I do this manually as well?
I cannot configure the email accounts to not encrypt the passwords.
Is this behavior intendend? A notion/hint would be great.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 10 22:11:44 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:11:44 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3807] Decrypting AES encrypted passwords (for backups),
configure password store
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--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian ---
Hi, the encryption scheme is described at
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=blob;f=doc/src/password_encryption.txt
If you have not set a master passphrase, you should be able to decrypt the
saved password using this information, since it is encrypted using a static
key, selected at compile time (defaults to "passkey0", I don't think anyone
ever changes this).
I am closing this, as this is a bug tracker, not a discussion or help forum.
Please use a mailing list (http://claws-mail.org/MLs.php), or come visit us on
IRC channel #claws at FreeNode instead.
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From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au Wed Apr 12 16:31:33 2017
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 00:31:33 +1000
Subject: [Users] Address book defaults to lower case
In-Reply-To: <20170403091330.76a2c49d@kujata>
References: <20170322092823.75bcfc1c@blackbox.home.karmasailing.uk>
<20170322103406.09e50760@anthra>
<20170322101125.0000126b@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20170322115535.334233b6@hiker>
<20170322143413.6b434b8c@acer-suse.lan>
<20170403152013.23b8c0b5@PPlive> <20170403091330.76a2c49d@kujata>
Message-ID: <20170413003133.6b1a39c9@PPlive>
On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 09:13:30 +0100
Paul wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 15:20:13 +1000
> blind Pete wrote:
>
> > Not respecting capitalization, in the local part, is a bug not a
> > feature.
>
> Anyway, the problem is that the address book doesn't allow you to
> change case, rather than it insisting on lower case.
>
> with regards
>
> Paul
So, CM *is* respecting case on the local part, and following
standards? Or does somebody want to start with, say,
johnsmith at example.com, edit it to JohnSmith at example.com and expect
replies to go to each and every capitalization variation of
jOhNsMith at example.com? That would be 2 to the 9 emails in this
example. It might annoy the postmaster at the other end.
Or do you want a CM only label like "Doctor who?" displayed to the user
while the original address is untouched?
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From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au Wed Apr 12 18:02:14 2017
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 02:02:14 +1000
Subject: [Users] (Solved) Not downloading from Gmail
In-Reply-To: <20170404081148.GA15821@busgosu.mones.org>
References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo>
<20161208213655.684898c6@pfortin.com>
<20161208191610.55f3f483@Devil-Bonobo>
<20161209084610.4223be07@kujata>
<20161209102245.3ead05a5@Devil-Bonobo>
<20170329154112.68dee9e8@Devil-Bonobo>
<20170403133242.6ec190c4@PPlive> <20170403080236.42c67571@penny>
<20170404081148.GA15821@busgosu.mones.org>
Message-ID: <20170413020214.053c1b0c@PPlive>
On Tue, 4 Apr 2017 10:11:49 +0200
Ricardo Mones wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 03, 2017 at 08:02:36AM +0200, Andrej Kacian wrote:
> > On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 13:32:42 +1000
> > blind Pete wrote:
> >
> > > Is there any reason that CM can not remember that multiple
> > > certificates have been accepted, or is there some reason that
> > > accepting a new one must cause the previous one to be discarded?
> >
> > No, no reason. You can even enable it with "unsafe_ssl_certs" hidden
> > preference (see user manual). It's just that it's usually a bad
> > idea to have it enabled by default, since sane providers stick to
> > the good old "one service, one certificate" rule.
Thanks, but you answered a question that I did not mean to ask (and
already knew the answer to).
Rather than lowering the standards for all certificates, when caught in
a gmail load balancing unpredictability is there any way to mark both of
(hopefully) only two gmail certificates as accepted?
> Since the domains causing most of the problems with this are usually
> well known, maybe a better experience without accepting all those
> unsafe certs could be turning that boolean preference into a list of
> regexp and only skipping this check to the domains matching any of
> the regexp in the list.
>
> That way known annoyers can be added to the list, and certs from
> others would still require a manual waiver. You could even have the
> original unsafe_ssl_certs behaviour using the *.* regexp.
>
> What do you think?
Lowering the standards for one provider would be less bad than lowering
the standards for all certificates.
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Apr 12 18:22:04 2017
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 17:22:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] (Solved) Not downloading from Gmail
In-Reply-To: <20170413020214.053c1b0c@PPlive>
References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo>
<20161208213655.684898c6@pfortin.com>
<20161208191610.55f3f483@Devil-Bonobo>
<20161209084610.4223be07@kujata>
<20161209102245.3ead05a5@Devil-Bonobo>
<20170329154112.68dee9e8@Devil-Bonobo>
<20170403133242.6ec190c4@PPlive> <20170403080236.42c67571@penny>
<20170404081148.GA15821@busgosu.mones.org>
<20170413020214.053c1b0c@PPlive>
Message-ID: <20170412172204.63c784c7@kujata>
Just use the option 'Automatically accept valid SSL/TLS certificates'
in the account prefs.
regards
Paul
From johnxj at gmx.com Wed Apr 12 20:42:47 2017
From: johnxj at gmx.com (John Jason Jordan)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 11:42:47 -0700
Subject: [Users] (Solved) Not downloading from Gmail
In-Reply-To: <20170412172204.63c784c7@kujata>
References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo>
<20161208213655.684898c6@pfortin.com>
<20161208191610.55f3f483@Devil-Bonobo>
<20161209084610.4223be07@kujata>
<20161209102245.3ead05a5@Devil-Bonobo>
<20170329154112.68dee9e8@Devil-Bonobo>
<20170403133242.6ec190c4@PPlive> <20170403080236.42c67571@penny>
<20170404081148.GA15821@busgosu.mones.org>
<20170413020214.053c1b0c@PPlive> <20170412172204.63c784c7@kujata>
Message-ID: <20170412114247.31928b1b@Devil-Bonobo>
On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 17:22:04 +0100
Paul dijo:
>Just use the option 'Automatically accept valid SSL/TLS certificates'
>in the account prefs.
I have always had that checked for my Gmail account, but I still get
the pop-ups when there is a new one and I have to accept it manually to
continue.
From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Apr 12 20:47:19 2017
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 19:47:19 +0100
Subject: [Users] (Solved) Not downloading from Gmail
In-Reply-To: <20170412114247.31928b1b@Devil-Bonobo>
References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo>
<20161208213655.684898c6@pfortin.com>
<20161208191610.55f3f483@Devil-Bonobo>
<20161209084610.4223be07@kujata>
<20161209102245.3ead05a5@Devil-Bonobo>
<20170329154112.68dee9e8@Devil-Bonobo>
<20170403133242.6ec190c4@PPlive> <20170403080236.42c67571@penny>
<20170404081148.GA15821@busgosu.mones.org>
<20170413020214.053c1b0c@PPlive> <20170412172204.63c784c7@kujata>
<20170412114247.31928b1b@Devil-Bonobo>
Message-ID: <20170412194719.7233f043@kujata>
On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 11:42:47 -0700
John Jason Jordan wrote:
> I have always had that checked for my Gmail account, but I still get
> the pop-ups when there is a new one and I have to accept it
> manually to continue.
you probably have to update your system's ca-certificates so that
'Google Internet Authority G2' is included.
with regards
Paul
From andrej at kacian.sk Thu Apr 13 09:16:04 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 09:16:04 +0200
Subject: [Users] Autoconfig does not support port 465 in SRV record
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20170413091604.012ba963@penny>
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 12:20:14 +0200
Jack wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Virgin Media uses SSL/TLS on port 465 for email submission via SMTP:
>
> $ dig _submission._tcp.virginmedia.com -t SRV +short
> 0 1 465 smtp.virginmedia.com.
>
> https://help.virginmedia.com/system/templates/selfservice/vm/help/customer/locale/en-GB/portal/200300000001000/article/HELP-2203/Email-Settings-for-all-Virgin-Media-domains
>
> Claws Mail supports SRV records for autoconfiguration. Unfortunately, it always assumes that STARTTLS (=explicit SSL/TLS) is used for SMTP. But in this case I need implicit SSL/TLS on port 465.
>
> I would like to suggest that the autoconfig wizard in Claws Mail tests if STARTTLS works for SMTP. If it doesn't, it should try implicit SSL/TLS.
>
> If this is not possible to implement, I suggest that implicit SSL/TLS is always used for port 465. It is very unlikely that someone would be running STARTTLS on port 465. Ports 25 and 587 are commonly used for STARTTLS.
>
Fixed in git, even though technically this is incorrect. See the
relevant commit message for details:
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=dbec2c
Regards,
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From jaccode at virginmedia.com Thu Apr 13 10:35:57 2017
From: jaccode at virginmedia.com (Jack)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 10:35:57 +0200
Subject: [Users] Autoconfig does not support port 465 in SRV record
In-Reply-To: <20170413091604.012ba963@penny>
References:
<20170413091604.012ba963@penny>
Message-ID: <96C4ACE4-C934-4F3D-8587-A873515B79B1@virginmedia.com>
Hello Andrej,
Thanks for your support! I agree that port 465 is no longer an official standard for SMTP. But there are ISPs that still use the port.
Some background info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMTPS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunistic_TLS#Weaknesses_and_mitigations
https://www.fastmail.com/help/technical/ssltlsstarttls.html
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 13 16:47:50 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 14:47:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3808] New: vCalendar plugin does not load due to
undefined symbol icaltime_from_timet
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3808
Bug ID: 3808
Summary: vCalendar plugin does not load due to undefined symbol
icaltime_from_timet
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail
Version: 3.15.0
Hardware: PC
OS: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: blocker
Priority: P3
Component: Plugins/vCalendar
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: aprsa09 at gmail.com
Ubuntu 16.04, installing from sources.
Installed libical-master or libical-2.0.0 from github, same result.
Configuring and building went without a problem; ldd on vcalendar.so shows:
libical.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/libical.so.2 (0x00007f8272df6000)
When trying to load the plugin, the following is reported:
The following error occurred while loading vcalendar.so:
/usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/vcalendar.so: undefined symbol:
icaltime_from_timet
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From dave at howorth.org.uk Thu Apr 13 22:36:42 2017
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 21:36:42 +0100
Subject: [Users] (Solved) Not downloading from Gmail
In-Reply-To: <20170413020214.053c1b0c@PPlive>
References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo>
<20161208213655.684898c6@pfortin.com>
<20161208191610.55f3f483@Devil-Bonobo>
<20161209084610.4223be07@kujata>
<20161209102245.3ead05a5@Devil-Bonobo>
<20170329154112.68dee9e8@Devil-Bonobo>
<20170403133242.6ec190c4@PPlive> <20170403080236.42c67571@penny>
<20170404081148.GA15821@busgosu.mones.org>
<20170413020214.053c1b0c@PPlive>
Message-ID: <20170413213642.5be2fbda@acer-suse.lan>
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 02:02:14 +1000
blind Pete wrote:
> Rather than lowering the standards for all certificates, when caught
> in a gmail load balancing unpredictability is there any way to mark
> both of (hopefully) only two gmail certificates as accepted?
The regexp solution would allow you to do that if you wished wouldn't
it?
From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 14 01:39:25 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 23:39:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3808] vCalendar plugin does not load due to undefined
symbol icaltime_from_timet
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3808
--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian ---
You're probably using libical 3.0.0, where function icaltime_from_timet was
deprecated and removed in that release. Try 2.0.0, it works over here on Debian
Testing.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 14 01:55:25 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 23:55:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3808] vCalendar plugin does not load due to undefined
symbol icaltime_from_timet
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3808
--- Comment #2 from rezso ---
Just a note: icaltime_from_timet is deprecated also in libical 2.0:
https://libical.github.io/libical/apidocs/icaltime_8h.html
The best way is replace it with icaltime_from_timet_with_zone.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 14 02:08:52 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 00:08:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3808] vCalendar plugin does not load due to undefined
symbol icaltime_from_timet
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3808
--- Comment #3 from aprsa ---
Nope, this is libical-2.0. I did try the master git branch as well, same
results. I could try a pre-2.0 version, but the claws release notes said 2.0+
was required. A patch suggested by rezso might indeed be best?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 14 12:54:56 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 10:54:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3808] vCalendar plugin does not load due to undefined
symbol icaltime_from_timet
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3808
Michael Rasmussen changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |FIXED
--- Comment #4 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/
++ ChangeLog 2017-04-14 12:48:03.363492320 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=489dce2d36ead88de5424ae267ebbc9871f8bbd1
Merge: 700a1bb 73d4891
Author: Colin Leroy
Date: Fri Apr 14 12:48:02 2017 +0200
Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=73d48910780a64de0deec8fe59e87318618f049a
Author: Michael Rasmussen
Date: Fri Apr 14 12:47:41 2017 +0200
Fix bug #3808: Replace icaltime_from_timet with
icaltime_from_timet_with_zone
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From c.buhtz at posteo.jp Fri Apr 14 14:36:37 2017
From: c.buhtz at posteo.jp (c.buhtz at posteo.jp)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 14:36:37 +0200
Subject: [Users] Feature: save sent mails in answered mails folder
Message-ID: <3w4HGJ5tx1zyRn@submission01.posteo.de>
In my working environment it would be very useful if mails wouldn't be
stored in the "sent" folder but in the same folder where the original
mail I reply to is stored.
But it would be important that this option would be related to a
specific folder. So I can turn it on for some but not all folders.
Some of my folders are representing person (e.g. "TheBoss"). And I view
the mails there threaded. So it would be great if my own replys would
appear in that threads.
Currently I have filters for that. But I have to create such filters
for each folder extra. A simple checkbox in the folder setting would be
great.
What do you think?
From brad at fineby.me.uk Fri Apr 14 14:44:45 2017
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 13:44:45 +0100
Subject: [Users] Feature: save sent mails in answered mails folder
In-Reply-To: <3w4HGJ5tx1zyRn@submission01.posteo.de>
References: <3w4HGJ5tx1zyRn@submission01.posteo.de>
Message-ID: <20170414134445.72a1fcc5@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 14:36:37 +0200
wrote:
Hello c.buhtz at posteo.jp,
>Currently I have filters for that. But I have to create such filters
>for each folder extra. A simple checkbox in the folder setting would be
>great.
It already exists. See: Folder context menu, Properties/Compose.
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From rezso at rezso.net Fri Apr 14 14:46:24 2017
From: rezso at rezso.net (=?UTF-8?B?UMOhZGVyIFJlenPFkQ==?=)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 14:46:24 +0200
Subject: [Users] Feature: save sent mails in answered mails folder
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Message-ID: <20170414144624.2abb9b93@papi.home>
Fri, 14 Apr 2017 14:36:37 +0200 -n
írta:
>In my working environment it would be very useful if mails wouldn't be
>stored in the "sent" folder but in the same folder where the original
>mail I reply to is stored.
>
>But it would be important that this option would be related to a
>specific folder. So I can turn it on for some but not all folders.
>
>Some of my folders are representing person (e.g. "TheBoss"). And I view
>the mails there threaded. So it would be great if my own replys would
>appear in that threads.
See the folder preferences: right click on the folder name,
Preferences, Compose.
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From suevb01 at gmail.com Fri Apr 14 19:59:27 2017
From: suevb01 at gmail.com (sue butler)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 18:59:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] Query - adding people to address book using filters
Message-ID: <1d03cb71-ec8a-ab27-6894-112164d5c647@gmail.com>
When I click on a message and 'Add sender to address book" the senders
name is added as well as the email address, which is great.
But, when I use a filter rule to do it, it adds their email address as
their name, which is not so great! (Especially when their email address
does not easily relate to their name)
Is there a way to get the filter rule to add their name?
Many thanks,
Sue
From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 15 15:36:04 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 13:36:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] New: Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3809
Bug ID: 3809
Summary: Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail
Version: 3.13.2
Hardware: PC
OS: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: Plugins/Privacy/PGP
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: nosp at abwesend.de
Created attachment 1741
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Output of "gdb claws-mail"
Loading any of these plugins
pgpcore.so
pgpinline.so
pgpmime.so
via Configuration->Plugins...->Load...
causes Claws Mail to freeze.
I attached output of gdb.
OS: Xubuntu 16.04.2
Installed with:
sudo apt-get install claws-mail claws-mail-plugins claws-mail-extra-plugins
claws-mail-pgpinline claws-mail-pgpmime claws-mail-fancy-plugin
claws-mail-smime-plugin claws-mail-dbg
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 15 16:16:21 2017
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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 14:16:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing
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Andrej Kacian changed:
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From andrej at kacian.sk Sat Apr 15 19:44:39 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 19:44:39 +0200
Subject: [Users] Query - adding people to address book using filters
In-Reply-To: <1d03cb71-ec8a-ab27-6894-112164d5c647@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20170415194439.4f1519b9@penny>
On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 18:59:27 +0100
sue butler wrote:
> When I click on a message and 'Add sender to address book" the senders
> name is added as well as the email address, which is great.
>
> But, when I use a filter rule to do it, it adds their email address as
> their name, which is not so great! (Especially when their email address
> does not easily relate to their name)
>
> Is there a way to get the filter rule to add their name?
Hi, it seems this was a bug, which I just fixed. The filtering action
will add the name correctly in the next release.
Thanks for noticing and reporting this!
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 15 20:12:21 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:12:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing
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--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian ---
What happens when Claws Mail is frozen? Is one (or perhaps more) CPU core at
100%?
Can you please, instead of "externally killing" the process, let it run, hit
CTRL+c in the console where gdb is running, and get a backtrace ('thread apply
all bt full' command)?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 15 20:46:55 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:46:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3810] New: SSL certificate manager: add Signature
Status and Expiration
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3810
Bug ID: 3810
Summary: SSL certificate manager: add Signature Status and
Expiration
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail
Version: GIT
Hardware: PC
OS: All
Status: NEW
Severity: enhancement
Priority: P3
Component: Other
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: pf at pfortin.com
SSL certificate manager only list Server and Port.
It would be easier to manage certs (way fewer mouse actions) if the list also
included Signature Status and Expiration.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 15 20:56:00 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:56:00 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3810] SSL certificate manager: add Signature Status
and Expiration
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--- Comment #1 from Pierre Fortin ---
...and allowed multiple selections.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 15 21:03:44 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 19:03:44 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing
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--- Comment #2 from nosp at abwesend.de ---
Created attachment 1742
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gdb backtrace
Output of:
gdb claws-mail
run --debug
thread apply all bt full
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 15 21:10:05 2017
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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 19:10:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing
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--- Comment #3 from nosp at abwesend.de ---
CPUs are idle during Claws Mail is frozen. Memory consumption does not change
and is low.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 15 23:40:33 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 21:40:33 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing
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--- Comment #4 from Andrej Kacian ---
I am stumped. The freeze obviously happens while Claws Mail is trying to figure
out whether you have some secret keys in your keyring - both PGP and S/MIME -
but I have no idea why it would just stop.
Do these commands finish OK and do they list something out of the ordinary?
gpg --list-secret-keys
gpgsm --list-secret-keys
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 00:51:52 2017
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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 22:51:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing
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--- Comment #5 from Michael Rasmussen ---
It could also be related to some malfunctioning gpg agent. To me it looks as
the problem I once had where the agent failed to call the pineentry program and
therefore communicated with stdout. If I recall I wrote the proper solution on
this bug tracker somewhere.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 00:53:40 2017
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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 22:53:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing
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--- Comment #6 from nosp at abwesend.de ---
I ran both commands:
gpg --list-secret-keys
Lists the key I imported the other day.
gpgsm --list-secret-keys
No output at all.
I deleted the key and tried again to load the plugins. Same behavior as far as
I understand. See attachment gdb_backtrace_no_keys.
I created another key and tried again, same result. See attachment
gdb_backtrace_new_key.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 00:54:25 2017
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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 22:54:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing
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--- Comment #7 from nosp at abwesend.de ---
Created attachment 1743
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backtrace after deleting existing keys
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 00:54:56 2017
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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 22:54:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing
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--- Comment #8 from nosp at abwesend.de ---
Created attachment 1744
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backtrace after creating new key
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 01:08:40 2017
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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 23:08:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing
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--- Comment #9 from Michael Rasmussen ---
What output does the following give:
dpkg --get-selections |grep pinentry
env |grep -i tty
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 09:41:42 2017
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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 07:41:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing
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--- Comment #10 from nosp at abwesend.de ---
:~$ dpkg --get-selections |grep pinentry
pinentry-gnome3 install
pinentry-gtk2 install
:~$ env |grep -i tty
:~$
(not output for env |grep -i tty)
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 11:18:31 2017
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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 09:18:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing
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--- Comment #11 from Michael Rasmussen ---
Try adding this to ~/.bashrc
# Set GPG TTY
export GPG_TTY=/dev/pts/1
Sometimes below is also necessary but try above first:
#$(tty)
# Refresh gpg-agent tty in case user switches into an X session
gpg-connect-agent updatestartuptty /bye >/dev/null
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 11:49:54 2017
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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 09:49:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing
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--- Comment #12 from nosp at abwesend.de ---
Created attachment 1745
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Output of gdb claws-mail after modifying .bashrc
Added
export GPG_TTY=/dev/pts/1
to .bashrc.
gdb claws-mail
run --debug
Loading plugins worked as expected.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 11:52:23 2017
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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 09:52:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing
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--- Comment #13 from nosp at abwesend.de ---
After adding export GPG_TTY=/dev/pts/1 to .bashrc, the plugin loaded
successfully.
Thanks!
Anything else I can do to help fix/avoid this for others?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 11:54:16 2017
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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 09:54:16 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing
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Paul changed:
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--- Comment #14 from Paul ---
It's a Xubuntu 16.04.2 bug, gpg-agent not getting set up correctly. You can
report it to them.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 11:57:14 2017
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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 09:57:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing
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--- Comment #15 from nosp at abwesend.de ---
Will do, thanks again.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 12:17:52 2017
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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 10:17:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing
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--- Comment #16 from Andrej Kacian ---
(In reply to comment #13)
> After adding export GPG_TTY=/dev/pts/1 to .bashrc, the plugin loaded
> successfully.
> Thanks!
>
> Anything else I can do to help fix/avoid this for others?
What if your TTY is different next time you log in? I don't think it always has
to be /dev/pts/1.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 12:21:26 2017
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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 10:21:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing
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--- Comment #17 from Paul ---
(In reply to comment #16)
> (In reply to comment #13)
> > After adding export GPG_TTY=/dev/pts/1 to .bashrc, the plugin loaded
> > successfully.
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Anything else I can do to help fix/avoid this for others?
>
> What if your TTY is different next time you log in? I don't think it always
> has to be /dev/pts/1.
Yes, what you want is this:
export GPG_TTY=`tty`
Re: https://www.gnupg.org/documentation/manuals/gnupg/Common-Problems.html
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 12:48:52 2017
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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 10:48:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing
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--- Comment #18 from Michael Rasmussen ---
I have done some testing. It seems to be of no importance what value the
GPG_TTY environment variable has as long as it is set. Maybe of importance for
the curses based pinentry but seems irrelevant to the gtk or gnome based
pinentry so it could be a bug in gpg-agent?
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From suevb01 at gmail.com Sun Apr 16 19:28:30 2017
From: suevb01 at gmail.com (sue butler)
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 18:28:30 +0100
Subject: [Users] Running Clawsmail from boot
Message-ID: <07a13638-1203-875d-d5b0-6f3c054da16c@gmail.com>
Hi
My aim is to run Claws from boot, and despite trying various methods I
just cant do it, I wonder whether anyone has any suggestions....
I am relatively new to the Raspberry Pi, Linux and Claws, but have
managed to work most things out. I now have Clawsmail with the Python
Plugin running on a Raspberry Pi. (Noobs setup) It runs just fine, and I
am really pleased with it. There are no issues at all when I start it
from the desktop screen. I have a Python plugin script that runs when
email arrives from specific accounts . This too works fine.
My problems arose when trying to start Clawsmail from boot...
Initially I thought the lack of success was my inability to use crontab
correctly, so downloaded the very simple Gnome Scheduler. In this I
have tried 3 different approaches:
Running the python script mentioned below
Using a shell script
Just putting "claws-mail"
At the moment I am trying to run these on an hourly schedule, rather
than on reboot, but none appear to work. (Other scripts, not related to
Claws, work fine.)
I have a simple Python3 script which is designed to check the internet
connection, and then start Claws. When it is run from the command line
it opens Claws, but with output:
/** (claws-mail:4201): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GtkCMUnit'
as enum when in fact it is of type 'gint'/
in this case, the prompt line reappears once Claws is loaded and the
warning has been printed out. Claws appears to work normally.
When I start Claws from the command line using/$ claws-mail/ I get a
similar response, but the command line hangs until I use ^C although
Claws starts up and runs OK.
If I receive mail that triggers the Python Plugin before hitting ^C then
I get another line of output:
/sys:1: Warning:
/build/glib2.0-tTvduh/glib2.0-2.42.1/./gobject/gsignal.c:2540: handler
'4014' of instance '0x603300' is not blocked /
Sometimes I am then unable to shut claws down normally, after these
messages, and even "killing" it takes a long time. BUT if I close the
command line window after /$ claws-mail/ then Claws closes too.
I suspect that this is the reason that my attempts to run any programs
to start Claws from boot result in no action at all - .maybe Claws
opens, but then immediately shuts down?
Any advice gratefully received,
Thank you,
Sue
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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 11:49:46 -0600
Subject: [Users] Running Clawsmail from boot
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On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 18:28:30 +0100
sue butler wrote:
> My aim is to run Claws from boot, and despite trying various methods
> I just cant do it, I wonder whether anyone has any suggestions....
Do you really want to run it from boot? If you do run it at boot, you
may be running it as root, not what you want. Linux reserves root for
system work, which may be ticklish. Also, root has full access to the
system, and can therefor do a lot of damage.
Much better to run user applications (such as claws-mail) as your user.
You may prefer to set it to launch on login, not on boot. How you do
that depends on your window and session managers.
> When I start Claws from the command line using/$ claws-mail/ I get a
> similar response, but the command line hangs until I use ^C although
> Claws starts up and runs OK.
Right. Running just
$ claws-mail
runs CM in the foreground, and blocks the shell. To run it in the
background and get back the use of the shell, run instead
$ claws-mail &
(Note the ampersand.)
> I am relatively new to the Raspberry Pi, Linux and Claws, but have
> managed to work most things out.
:-) You were bitten by one of the many and subtle differences between
Windows and Linux/Unix.
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From david.burleigh at gmx.com Sun Apr 16 20:02:03 2017
From: david.burleigh at gmx.com (David Burleigh)
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 14:02:03 -0400
Subject: [Users] 3.15.0 Package for Ubuntu?
Message-ID: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz>
Does anyone know of a Ubuntu package for version 3.15.0?
--
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828-475-5126
From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sun Apr 16 20:26:57 2017
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 20:26:57 +0200
Subject: [Users] 3.15.0 Package for Ubuntu?
In-Reply-To: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz>
References: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz>
Message-ID: <1492367217.811.2.camel@zoho.com>
On Sun, 2017-04-16 at 14:02 -0400, David Burleigh wrote:
> Does anyone know of a Ubuntu package for version 3.15.0?
Hi,
you could build the package on your own. It shouldn't require to build
any dependencies, it at least isn't necessary when running Ubuntu
16.04.2 LTS.
I removed all claws-mail related packages from official Ubuntu
repositories, but kept all dependencies and also installed all make
dependencies, IOW you need to install required dev packages.
I'm usually building the latest commit from git, but you could checkout
3.15.0 from git as described below. IIRC you also could use a tag
instead of the commit a2ef596.
git clone git://git.claws-mail.org/claws.git
cd claws/
git checkout a2ef596
./autogen.sh
./configure --build=$(uname -m)-ubuntu-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --disable-jpilot --disable-maintainer-mode --disable-manual --disable-static --enable-bogofilter-plugin --enable-crash-dialog --enable-enchant --enable-gnutls --enable-ldap --enable-pgpmime-plugin --enable-silent-rules --enable-spamassassin-plugin
make
sudo checkinstall
Checkinstall offers a menu, I only edit it a little bit:
0 - Maintainer: [ Foo ]
1 - Summary: [ A GTK+ based e-mail client - git checkout ]
2 - Name: [ claws-mail-git ]
3 - Version: [ 3.15.0 ]
4 - Release: [ 1 ]
5 - License: [ GPL3 ]
6 - Group: [ checkinstall ]
7 - Architecture: [ amd64 ]
8 - Source location: [ claws ]
9 - Alternate source location: [ ]
10 - Requires: [ ]
11 - Provides: [ claws-mail ]
12 - Conflicts: [ ]
13 - Replaces: [ ]
Regards,
Ralf
From david.burleigh at gmx.com Sun Apr 16 20:32:57 2017
From: david.burleigh at gmx.com (David Burleigh)
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 14:32:57 -0400
Subject: [Users] 3.15.0 Package for Ubuntu?
In-Reply-To: <1492367217.811.2.camel@zoho.com>
References: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz>
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Ok, thank you, I'll give that a try.
On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 20:26:57 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2017-04-16 at 14:02 -0400, David Burleigh wrote:
> [...]
>
> Hi,
>
> you could build the package on your own. It shouldn't require to build
> any dependencies, it at least isn't necessary when running Ubuntu
> 16.04.2 LTS.
>
> I removed all claws-mail related packages from official Ubuntu
> repositories, but kept all dependencies and also installed all make
> dependencies, IOW you need to install required dev packages.
>
> I'm usually building the latest commit from git, but you could
> checkout 3.15.0 from git as described below. IIRC you also could use
> a tag instead of the commit a2ef596.
>
>
> git clone git://git.claws-mail.org/claws.git
>
> cd claws/
>
> git checkout a2ef596
>
> ./autogen.sh
>
> ./configure --build=$(uname -m)-ubuntu-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr
> --disable-jpilot --disable-maintainer-mode --disable-manual
> --disable-static --enable-bogofilter-plugin --enable-crash-dialog
> --enable-enchant --enable-gnutls --enable-ldap
> --enable-pgpmime-plugin --enable-silent-rules
> --enable-spamassassin-plugin
>
> make
>
> sudo checkinstall
>
>
> Checkinstall offers a menu, I only edit it a little bit:
>
> 0 - Maintainer: [ Foo ]
> 1 - Summary: [ A GTK+ based e-mail client - git checkout ]
> 2 - Name: [ claws-mail-git ]
> 3 - Version: [ 3.15.0 ]
> 4 - Release: [ 1 ]
> 5 - License: [ GPL3 ]
> 6 - Group: [ checkinstall ]
> 7 - Architecture: [ amd64 ]
> 8 - Source location: [ claws ]
> 9 - Alternate source location: [ ]
> 10 - Requires: [ ]
> 11 - Provides: [ claws-mail ]
> 12 - Conflicts: [ ]
> 13 - Replaces: [ ]
>
> Regards,
> Ralf
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
From andrej at kacian.sk Sun Apr 16 20:34:09 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 20:34:09 +0200
Subject: [Users] Running Clawsmail from boot
In-Reply-To: <07a13638-1203-875d-d5b0-6f3c054da16c@gmail.com>
References: <07a13638-1203-875d-d5b0-6f3c054da16c@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20170416203409.0f62dda4@penny>
On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 18:28:30 +0100
sue butler wrote:
> Initially I thought the lack of success was my inability to use crontab
> correctly, so downloaded the very simple Gnome Scheduler. In this I
> have tried 3 different approaches:
> Running the python script mentioned below
> Using a shell script
> Just putting "claws-mail"
The correct approach is to configure:
1. Whatever login manager you use to auto-login a user of your choice.
2. Whatever window manager or desktop environment you use to start
claws-mail upon login for that particular user's session.
Regards,
--
Andrej
From kardan at riseup.net Sun Apr 16 22:13:03 2017
From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan)
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 22:13:03 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail tries to connect in offline-mode
In-Reply-To: <20170405104956.24b1fd22@kujata>
References: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net>
<20170405094141.7fb0bd43@kujata>
<20170405110417.5bdcd4d9@riseup.net>
<20170405102729.1f3cf5a8@kujata>
<20170405114309.30301645@riseup.net>
<20170405104956.24b1fd22@kujata>
Message-ID: <20170416212621.212ca352@riseup.net>
Hi Paul,
I watched the beast some more time.
On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 10:49:56 +0100
Paul wrote:
> It doesn't do that here. Offline is offline.
It appears that Claws has its rounds to finish and does not directly
react to my nervous clicks to go offline.
Just like a train you sent away some time ago will not directly jump to
the depot when you call it back.
Would it be possible to implement 'beaming' to kill existing
connections?
Talking of connections: From time to time claws dies from broken
connections. Not regularly, maybe a memory corruption due to
unfreed variables.
Best and thanks,
kardan
(I am not on the list)
Claws Mail version 3.14.1
runtime GTK+ 2.24.31 / GLib 2.50.3
buildtime GTK+ 2.24.31 / GLib 2.50.3
Compiled-in features:
compface
Enchant
GnuTLS 3.5.8-5
IPv6
iconv
JPilot
LDAP
libetpan 1.6
libSM
NetworkManager
** (claws-mail:4593): WARNING **: [17:22:05] Couldn't login to IMAP
server mail.riseup.net.
*** Error in `claws-mail': free(): corrupted unsorted chunks:
0x0abd6200 *** ======= Backtrace: =========
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x6737a)[0xb623437a]
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x6dfb7)[0xb623afb7]
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x6e776)[0xb623b776]
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_free+0x20)[0xb69189f0]
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_string_free+0x44)[0xb6935614]
claws-mail(session_destroy+0x74)[0x820e584]
claws-mail[0x80dfa01]
claws-mail[0x80e34df]
claws-mail(folder_item_scan_full+0xb4)[0x80c9c84]
claws-mail(folder_item_scan+0xe)[0x80cc38e]
claws-mail(procmsg_send_queue+0xa2)[0x81802c2]
claws-mail(send_queue_cb+0x69)[0x81b3d39]
claws-mail[0x81b3ee1]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x14b)[0xb6a05c3b]
From suevb01 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 11:03:41 2017
From: suevb01 at gmail.com (sue butler)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 10:03:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] Running Clawsmail from boot
In-Reply-To: <20170416114946.34507b62@hawk.localdomain>
References: <07a13638-1203-875d-d5b0-6f3c054da16c@gmail.com>
<20170416114946.34507b62@hawk.localdomain>
Message-ID:
On 16/04/2017 18:49, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 18:28:30 +0100
> sue butler wrote:
>
>> My aim is to run Claws from boot, and despite trying various methods
>> I just cant do it, I wonder whether anyone has any suggestions....
> Do you really want to run it from boot?
Sorry - my poor explanation - I want it to start up when the Raspberry
Pi starts. (For example, after a power outage) I understand about not
running it as root - although I was considering that this might have to
be an option!! I hoped that just launching it in a Python Script that
runs from the Scheduler (or crontab) would launch it with me as the
user, just as it does when I run the script from the command line.
> Much better to run user applications (such as claws-mail) as your user.
> You may prefer to set it to launch on login, not on boot. How you do
> that depends on your window and session managers.
Am digging about with Google to try to find out more about how to do this!
>
>> When I start Claws from the command line using/$ claws-mail/ I get a
>> similar response, but the command line hangs until I use ^C although
>> Claws starts up and runs OK.
> Right. Running just
>
> $ claws-mail
> runs CM in the foreground, and blocks the shell. To run it in the
> background and get back the use of the shell, run instead
> $ claws-mail &
> (Note the ampersand.)
Sorry, have tried that, and it still behaves the same way. I had tried
both approaches in my Python Script too, and it made no difference.
Should I be worried about the Warning I get?
>
>> I am relatively new to the Raspberry Pi, Linux and Claws, but have
>> managed to work most things out.
> :-) You were bitten by one of the many and subtle differences between
> Windows and Linux/Unix.
>
Ha ha - I know nothing about Windows either, my main experience of
programming was in the days when you turned up at the "computer room"
with your program on punched cards! I am on a steep learning curve!
Thanks for your help, and if you can suggest any other options I would
be more than happy to try them.
Sue
From suevb01 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 11:09:57 2017
From: suevb01 at gmail.com (sue butler)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 10:09:57 +0100
Subject: [Users] Running Clawsmail from boot
In-Reply-To: <20170416203409.0f62dda4@penny>
References: <07a13638-1203-875d-d5b0-6f3c054da16c@gmail.com>
<20170416203409.0f62dda4@penny>
Message-ID: <255681e5-7722-2ffa-1aa5-07901ecb76f6@gmail.com>
On 16/04/2017 19:34, Andrej Kacian wrote:
>
> The correct approach is to configure:
> 1. Whatever login manager you use to auto-login a user of your choice.
> 2. Whatever window manager or desktop environment you use to start
> claws-mail upon login for that particular user's session.
>
> Regards,
Thank you, I am now busy trying to find out how to do this. (The user
auto-login is already set as default on the Rasbian Noobs set-up)
Do I need to worry about the warning messages?
/** (claws-mail:4201): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GtkCMUnit'
as enum when in fact it is of type 'gint'/
/sys:1: Warning:
/build/glib2.0-tTvduh/glib2.0-2.42.1/./gobject/gsignal.c:2540: handler
'4014' of instance '0x603300' is not blocked
Sue
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From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 12:48:40 +0200
Subject: [Users] Running Clawsmail from boot
In-Reply-To: <255681e5-7722-2ffa-1aa5-07901ecb76f6@gmail.com>
References: <07a13638-1203-875d-d5b0-6f3c054da16c@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20170417124840.004e3f9a@penny>
On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 10:09:57 +0100
sue butler wrote:
> On 16/04/2017 19:34, Andrej Kacian wrote:
> >
> > The correct approach is to configure:
> > 1. Whatever login manager you use to auto-login a user of your choice.
> > 2. Whatever window manager or desktop environment you use to start
> > claws-mail upon login for that particular user's session.
> >
> > Regards,
> Thank you, I am now busy trying to find out how to do this. (The user
> auto-login is already set as default on the Rasbian Noobs set-up)
> Do I need to worry about the warning messages?
>
> /** (claws-mail:4201): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GtkCMUnit'
> as enum when in fact it is of type 'gint'/
>
> /sys:1: Warning:
> /build/glib2.0-tTvduh/glib2.0-2.42.1/./gobject/gsignal.c:2540: handler
> '4014' of instance '0x603300' is not blocked
I really have no idea, I've never seen these before, but neither of
them look very healthy.
Although, the first one almost looks like you are running claws-mail
which was built against a different version of GLib than your system
has installed.
Regards,
--
Andrej
From suevb01 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 13:17:22 2017
From: suevb01 at gmail.com (sue butler)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 12:17:22 +0100
Subject: [Users] Running Clawsmail from boot
In-Reply-To: <20170417124840.004e3f9a@penny>
References: <07a13638-1203-875d-d5b0-6f3c054da16c@gmail.com>
<20170416203409.0f62dda4@penny>
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Message-ID:
On 17/04/2017 11:48, Andrej Kacian wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 10:09:57 +0100
> sue butler wrote:
>
>> Do I need to worry about the warning messages?
>>
>> /** (claws-mail:4201): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GtkCMUnit'
>> as enum when in fact it is of type 'gint'/
>>
>> /sys:1: Warning:
>> /build/glib2.0-tTvduh/glib2.0-2.42.1/./gobject/gsignal.c:2540: handler
>> '4014' of instance '0x603300' is not blocked
> I really have no idea, I've never seen these before, but neither of
> them look very healthy.
>
> Although, the first one almost looks like you are running claws-mail
> which was built against a different version of GLib than your system
> has installed.
>
>
That is odd, as I only set up the system less than a month ago and the
Noobs installation comes with Clawsmail installed. I loaded the Python
Plugin a few days later. I could try uninstalling and re-installing
Clawsmail I guess.
Thanks anyway - I will come back if it causes me problems.
Sue
From andrej at kacian.sk Mon Apr 17 14:30:47 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:30:47 +0200
Subject: [Users] Running Clawsmail from boot
In-Reply-To:
References: <07a13638-1203-875d-d5b0-6f3c054da16c@gmail.com>
<20170416203409.0f62dda4@penny>
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<20170417124840.004e3f9a@penny>
Message-ID: <20170417143047.53b03afc@penny>
On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 12:17:22 +0100
sue butler wrote:
> On 17/04/2017 11:48, Andrej Kacian wrote:
> > On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 10:09:57 +0100
> > sue butler wrote:
> >
> >> Do I need to worry about the warning messages?
> >>
> >> /** (claws-mail:4201): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GtkCMUnit'
> >> as enum when in fact it is of type 'gint'/
> >>
> >> /sys:1: Warning:
> >> /build/glib2.0-tTvduh/glib2.0-2.42.1/./gobject/gsignal.c:2540: handler
> >> '4014' of instance '0x603300' is not blocked
> > I really have no idea, I've never seen these before, but neither of
> > them look very healthy.
> >
> > Although, the first one almost looks like you are running claws-mail
> > which was built against a different version of GLib than your system
> > has installed.
> >
> >
> That is odd, as I only set up the system less than a month ago and the
> Noobs installation comes with Clawsmail installed. I loaded the Python
> Plugin a few days later. I could try uninstalling and re-installing
> Clawsmail I guess.
Hm, after some more research (if web searches can be called
'research' :) ), it is triggered by you loading the python plugin.
The warning itself, "Trying to register gtype '...' as enum ...", comes
from pygobject, but I do not know nearly enough about Python and
pygtk/pygobject to even guess whether the error is in Claws Mail code
or you have a buggy version of pygobject installed. Sorry.
Regards,
--
Andrej
From mir at miras.org Mon Apr 17 14:45:51 2017
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:45:51 +0200
Subject: [Users] Running Clawsmail from boot
In-Reply-To: <20170417143047.53b03afc@penny>
References: <07a13638-1203-875d-d5b0-6f3c054da16c@gmail.com>
<20170416203409.0f62dda4@penny>
<255681e5-7722-2ffa-1aa5-07901ecb76f6@gmail.com>
<20170417124840.004e3f9a@penny>
<20170417143047.53b03afc@penny>
Message-ID: <20170417144551.7bcd3111@sleipner.datanom.net>
On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:30:47 +0200
Andrej Kacian wrote:
>
> Hm, after some more research (if web searches can be called
> 'research' :) ), it is triggered by you loading the python plugin.
>
> The warning itself, "Trying to register gtype '...' as enum ...", comes
> from pygobject, but I do not know nearly enough about Python and
> pygtk/pygobject to even guess whether the error is in Claws Mail code
> or you have a buggy version of pygobject installed. Sorry.
Has anybody ever tested the python plugin on ARMv7 before? Maybe a type
porting problem between x86 and ARMv7?
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From clifflaine at europe.com Mon Apr 17 14:47:49 2017
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 13:47:49 +0100
Subject: [Users] 3.15.0 Package for Ubuntu?
In-Reply-To: <1492367217.811.2.camel@zoho.com>
References: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz>
<1492367217.811.2.camel@zoho.com>
Message-ID: <20170417134749.201c5ae6@korky-Inspiron-1525>
On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 20:26:57 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2017-04-16 at 14:02 -0400, David Burleigh wrote:
> > Does anyone know of a Ubuntu package for version 3.15.0?
>
> Hi,
>
> you could build the package on your own. It shouldn't require to build
> any dependencies, it at least isn't necessary when running Ubuntu
> 16.04.2 LTS.
>
> git clone git://git.claws-mail.org/claws.git
>
> cd claws/
>
> git checkout a2ef596
>
> ./autogen.sh
>
I can get this far, then
user at user ~/claws $ ./autogen.sh
./autogen.sh: 39: ./autogen.sh: aclocal: not found
./autogen.sh: 45: exec: ./configure: not found
From mir at miras.org Mon Apr 17 14:49:42 2017
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:49:42 +0200
Subject: [Users] 3.15.0 Package for Ubuntu?
In-Reply-To: <20170417134749.201c5ae6@korky-Inspiron-1525>
References: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz> <1492367217.811.2.camel@zoho.com>
<20170417134749.201c5ae6@korky-Inspiron-1525>
Message-ID: <20170417144942.4b2ac591@sleipner.datanom.net>
On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 13:47:49 +0100
Cliff Laine wrote:
>
> I can get this far, then
>
> user at user ~/claws $ ./autogen.sh
> ./autogen.sh: 39: ./autogen.sh: aclocal: not found
> ./autogen.sh: 45: exec: ./configure: not found
Above is normally solved by installing the build-essential package.
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From suevb01 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 15:02:29 2017
From: suevb01 at gmail.com (sue butler)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:02:29 +0100
Subject: [Users] Running Clawsmail from boot
In-Reply-To: <20170416114946.34507b62@hawk.localdomain>
References: <07a13638-1203-875d-d5b0-6f3c054da16c@gmail.com>
<20170416114946.34507b62@hawk.localdomain>
Message-ID: <0b0bd7ab-f202-20c3-b67f-581ab57e70ea@gmail.com>
Just a quick update - I have now found the right place to add clawsmail
into my login sequence, and all is working as planned:
http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2014/05/how-to-autostart-apps-in-rasbian-lxde-desktop/
I am still a little concerned about the warning messages, but they don't
seem to be affecting anything, so I will ignore them!
Thank you so much for all your help, both Charles and Andrej.
Sue
From clifflaine at europe.com Mon Apr 17 15:28:37 2017
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:28:37 +0100
Subject: [Users] 3.15.0 Package for Ubuntu?
In-Reply-To: <20170417144942.4b2ac591@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz> <1492367217.811.2.camel@zoho.com>
<20170417134749.201c5ae6@korky-Inspiron-1525>
<20170417144942.4b2ac591@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20170417142837.5662eceb@korky-Inspiron-1525>
On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:49:42 +0200
Michael Rasmussen wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 13:47:49 +0100
> Cliff Laine wrote:
>
> >
> > I can get this far, then
> >
> > user at user ~/claws $ ./autogen.sh
> > ./autogen.sh: 39: ./autogen.sh: aclocal: not found
> > ./autogen.sh: 45: exec: ./configure: not found
>
> Above is normally solved by installing the build-essential package.
>
Thank you Michael, but not here unfortunately (Mint 18, Ubuntu 16.04.4).
Cliff
From mir at miras.org Mon Apr 17 15:42:43 2017
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 15:42:43 +0200
Subject: [Users] 3.15.0 Package for Ubuntu?
In-Reply-To: <20170417142837.5662eceb@korky-Inspiron-1525>
References: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz> <1492367217.811.2.camel@zoho.com>
<20170417134749.201c5ae6@korky-Inspiron-1525>
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<20170417142837.5662eceb@korky-Inspiron-1525>
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On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:28:37 +0100
Cliff Laine wrote:
>
> Thank you Michael, but not here unfortunately (Mint 18, Ubuntu 16.04.4).
>
Then sudo apt install automake autoconf
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From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Mon Apr 17 16:49:14 2017
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 08:49:14 -0600
Subject: [Users] 3.15.0 Package for Ubuntu?
In-Reply-To: <20170417142837.5662eceb@korky-Inspiron-1525>
References: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz> <1492367217.811.2.camel@zoho.com>
<20170417134749.201c5ae6@korky-Inspiron-1525>
<20170417144942.4b2ac591@sleipner.datanom.net>
<20170417142837.5662eceb@korky-Inspiron-1525>
Message-ID: <20170417084914.35340491@hawk.localdomain>
On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:28:37 +0100
Cliff Laine wrote:
> > Above is normally solved by installing the build-essential package.
> >
>
> Thank you Michael, but not here unfortunately (Mint 18, Ubuntu
> 16.04.4).
Odd. I see it on Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
Try:
apt-cache show build-essential
If that shows that the package is available, edit the line to install
it.
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From dick at therucks.me.uk Mon Apr 17 21:54:02 2017
From: dick at therucks.me.uk (Dick Ruck)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 20:54:02 +0100
Subject: [Users] next-on-delete query
Message-ID: <20170417205402.1528bfed@gandalf>
I am running CM 3.13.2 on Mint 18.1 Serena. When I delete a mail the
next selected email is the previous email, which I believe is the
correct default behaviour.
I would prefer the cursor to select the next email after deletion so
I closed CM and edited ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc
changing
next_on_delete=0
to
next_on_delete=1
I ran CM and the behaviour has not changed, CM still selects the
previous message.
Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug?
TIA
Dick
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From andrej at kacian.sk Mon Apr 17 22:20:17 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 22:20:17 +0200
Subject: [Users] next-on-delete query
In-Reply-To: <20170417205402.1528bfed@gandalf>
References: <20170417205402.1528bfed@gandalf>
Message-ID: <20170417222017.46843c08@penny>
On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 20:54:02 +0100
Dick Ruck wrote:
> I am running CM 3.13.2 on Mint 18.1 Serena. When I delete a mail the
> next selected email is the previous email, which I believe is the
> correct default behaviour.
>
> I would prefer the cursor to select the next email after deletion so
> I closed CM and edited ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc
> changing
> next_on_delete=0
> to
> next_on_delete=1
>
> I ran CM and the behaviour has not changed, CM still selects the
> previous message.
>
> Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug?
If your 'deleting' is in fact moving to Trash folder, this is indeed a
bug that was fixed in 3.14.0. From that version's release notes:
* Preferences: The 'next_on_delete' hidden preference now applies to
trashing or moving, in addition to deleting, a message.
Regards,
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From dick at therucks.me.uk Mon Apr 17 23:54:29 2017
From: dick at therucks.me.uk (Dick Ruck)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 22:54:29 +0100
Subject: [Users] next-on-delete query
In-Reply-To: <20170417222017.46843c08@penny>
References: <20170417205402.1528bfed@gandalf> <20170417222017.46843c08@penny>
Message-ID: <20170417225429.7e8c8027@gandalf>
Thank you Andrej,
Dick
On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 22:20:17 +0200
Andrej Kacian wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 20:54:02 +0100
> Dick Ruck wrote:
>
> > I am running CM 3.13.2 on Mint 18.1 Serena. When I delete a mail the
> > next selected email is the previous email, which I believe is the
> > correct default behaviour.
> >
> > I would prefer the cursor to select the next email after deletion so
> > I closed CM and edited ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc
> > changing
> > next_on_delete=0
> > to
> > next_on_delete=1
> >
> > I ran CM and the behaviour has not changed, CM still selects the
> > previous message.
> >
> > Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug?
>
> If your 'deleting' is in fact moving to Trash folder, this is indeed a
> bug that was fixed in 3.14.0. From that version's release notes:
>
> * Preferences: The 'next_on_delete' hidden preference now applies to
> trashing or moving, in addition to deleting, a message.
>
> Regards,
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Apr 18 17:40:10 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 15:40:10 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3744] Crash upon deleting tags
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3744
Paul changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |FIXED
--- Comment #8 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/
++ ChangeLog 2017-04-09 18:33:02.962605369 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=0aebd110e77ebb278a6cc6b6967dfaa6618d16ab
Merge: d21265f 9eb1c96
Author: Colin Leroy
Date: Sun Apr 9 18:33:02 2017 +0200
Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=9eb1c969c85d38b31c12ec188eec8932e522a45d
Author: Andrej Kacian
Date: Sun Apr 9 18:31:52 2017 +0200
Fix GUI not updating after deleting a tag.
Fixes bug #3744 - Crash upon deleting tags.
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From edwardp at linuxmail.org Tue Apr 18 23:56:04 2017
From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 17:56:04 -0400
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.15 > Fedora
Message-ID: <20170418175604.56829023@downstairs>
Will Claws 3.15 eventually make its way to Fedora? I was curious
as to whether it was delayed, because of all the bug reports filed
since 3.15 was unleashed and didn't see it listed on the Fedora Updates
System web site.
Unfortunately, I can no longer use Claws for Windows, as Windows (under
7 Home Premium, 64-bit) will no longer update. Since Microsoft now
releases monthly updates as combined security/quality roll-ups, those
files will not install on my system, the error code indicates a
permission error, yet as my account is also the Administrator account,
there is no reason why those cannot be installed. As it will no
longer update, I'm through with Windows.
From andrej at kacian.sk Wed Apr 19 00:07:45 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 00:07:45 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.15 > Fedora
In-Reply-To: <20170418175604.56829023@downstairs>
References: <20170418175604.56829023@downstairs>
Message-ID: <20170419000745.5eac8bca@penny>
On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 17:56:04 -0400
wrote:
> Will Claws 3.15 eventually make its way to Fedora? I was curious
> as to whether it was delayed, because of all the bug reports filed
> since 3.15 was unleashed and didn't see it listed on the Fedora Updates
> System web site.
There seems to be some activity on that front:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=1474
> Unfortunately, I can no longer use Claws for Windows, as Windows (under
> 7 Home Premium, 64-bit) will no longer update. Since Microsoft now
> releases monthly updates as combined security/quality roll-ups, those
> files will not install on my system, the error code indicates a
> permission error, yet as my account is also the Administrator account,
> there is no reason why those cannot be installed. As it will no
> longer update, I'm through with Windows.
Shouldn't that first word read as "Fortunately"? :)
Regards,
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From edwardp at linuxmail.org Wed Apr 19 00:54:19 2017
From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 18:54:19 -0400
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.15 > Fedora
Message-ID: <20170418185419.55850663@downstairs>
Depends on the subject, Andrej. :)
"Unfortunately" - Because I really liked using the 64-bit Windows
version of Claws. You couldn't imagine how happy I was, to see something
other than a web browser, for Windows, made available for 64-bit
software/architecture.
"Fortunately" - well, OK... Fortunately, I am no longer using Windows
because of its inability to update.
Thank you for the link to the koji (buildsystem) site, I have
bookmarked it. Although it shows information for Fedora 26 and 27,
but not for 25. Maybe they're not building packages for 25 due to the
upcoming release of 26?
Ed
From edwardp at linuxmail.org Wed Apr 19 01:06:14 2017
From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 19:06:14 -0400
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.15 > Fedora
Message-ID: <20170418185419.55850663@downstairs>
(Looks like my original post didn't make it to the list, my apologies
if this one ends up being a duplicate.)
Depends on the subject, Andrej. :)
"Unfortunately" - Because I really liked using the 64-bit Windows
version of Claws. You couldn't imagine how happy I was, to see something
other than a web browser, for Windows, made available for 64-bit
software/architecture.
"Fortunately" - well, OK... Fortunately, I am no longer using Windows
because of its inability to update.
Thank you for the link to the koji (buildsystem) site, I have
bookmarked it. Although it shows information for Fedora 26 and 27,
but not for 25. Maybe they're not building packages for 25 due to the
upcoming release of 26?
Ed
From kardan at riseup.net Wed Apr 19 03:52:54 2017
From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 03:52:54 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail tries to connect in offline-mode
In-Reply-To: <20170405104956.24b1fd22@kujata>
References: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net>
<20170405094141.7fb0bd43@kujata>
<20170405110417.5bdcd4d9@riseup.net>
<20170405102729.1f3cf5a8@kujata>
<20170405114309.30301645@riseup.net>
<20170405104956.24b1fd22@kujata>
Message-ID: <20170416212621.212ca352@riseup.net>
Hi Paul,
I watched the beast some more time.
On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 10:49:56 +0100
Paul wrote:
> It doesn't do that here. Offline is offline.
It appears that Claws has its rounds to finish and does not directly
react to my nervous clicks to go offline.
Just like a train won't jump directly to the depot when you call it
back.
Would it be possible to implement 'beaming' to kill existing
connections?
Talking of connections: From time to time claws dies from broken
connections. Not regularly, maybe a memory leak (details below).
Best and thanks,
kardan
Claws Mail version 3.14.1
runtime GTK+ 2.24.31 / GLib 2.50.3
buildtime GTK+ 2.24.31 / GLib 2.50.3
Compiled-in features:
compface
Enchant
GnuTLS 3.5.8-5
IPv6
iconv
JPilot
LDAP
libetpan 1.6
libSM
NetworkManager
** (claws-mail:4593): WARNING **: [17:22:05] Couldn't login to IMAP
server mail.riseup.net.
*** Error in `claws-mail': free(): corrupted unsorted chunks:
0x0abd6200 *** ======= Backtrace: =========
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x6737a)[0xb623437a]
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x6dfb7)[0xb623afb7]
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x6e776)[0xb623b776]
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_free+0x20)[0xb69189f0]
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_string_free+0x44)[0xb6935614]
claws-mail(session_destroy+0x74)[0x820e584]
claws-mail[0x80dfa01]
claws-mail[0x80e34df]
claws-mail(folder_item_scan_full+0xb4)[0x80c9c84]
claws-mail(folder_item_scan+0xe)[0x80cc38e]
claws-mail(procmsg_send_queue+0xa2)[0x81802c2]
claws-mail(send_queue_cb+0x69)[0x81b3d39]
claws-mail[0x81b3ee1]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x14b)[0xb6a05c3b]
From olaf at aepfle.de Wed Apr 19 08:08:25 2017
From: olaf at aepfle.de (Olaf Hering)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 08:08:25 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail tries to connect in offline-mode
In-Reply-To: <20170416212621.212ca352@riseup.net>
References: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net>
<20170405094141.7fb0bd43@kujata>
<20170405110417.5bdcd4d9@riseup.net>
<20170405102729.1f3cf5a8@kujata>
<20170405114309.30301645@riseup.net>
<20170405104956.24b1fd22@kujata>
<20170416212621.212ca352@riseup.net>
Message-ID: <20170419080825.138692d2.olaf@aepfle.de>
Am Wed, 19 Apr 2017 03:52:54 +0200
schrieb kardan :
> ** (claws-mail:4593): WARNING **: [17:22:05] Couldn't login to IMAP
> server mail.riseup.net.
> *** Error in `claws-mail': free(): corrupted unsorted chunks:
This part was most likely fixed yesterday:
da97dac53 Fix use after free
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 20 02:10:04 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 00:10:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3811] New: delete SSL certs ignored
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3811
Bug ID: 3811
Summary: delete SSL certs ignored
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail
Version: GIT
Hardware: PC
OS: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: UI
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: pf at pfortin.com
Trying to cleanup many years of old SSL certs using Tools->SSL/TLS
certificates. It appears the certs have been deleted; but only the list was
updated.
Close the tool and re-open it and the old certs are still there.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 20 07:20:32 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 05:20:32 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3811] remove old certs from ~/.claws-mail/certs/
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3811
Paul changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Summary|delete SSL certs ignored |remove old certs from
| |~/.claws-mail/certs/
Severity|normal |enhancement
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 20 07:28:01 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 05:28:01 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3811] deleting SSL certs doesn't always work
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3811
Paul changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Summary|remove old certs from |deleting SSL certs doesn't
|~/.claws-mail/certs/ |always work
Severity|enhancement |normal
--- Comment #1 from Paul ---
I was a bit too quick on my first edit. On more testing I note that sometimes
clicking the 'Delete' button doesn't work - just once from several test
deletes.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 20 09:50:57 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 07:50:57 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3812] New: It is not possible to write "i" and
"=?UTF-8?Q?=C4=B0?=" characters with W8.1's touchscreen keyboard
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3812
Bug ID: 3812
Summary: It is not possible to write "i" and "İ" characters
with W8.1's touchscreen keyboard
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
Version: 3.15.0
Hardware: PC
OS: Windows 8
Status: NEW
Severity: major
Priority: P3
Component: default
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: unknownbuckethead at yandex.com
I'm using Windows 8.1 tablet with latest updates installed. I don't have a
physical keyboard so I'm using Windows' touch screen keyboard. With Turkish
locale and Turkish Q keyboard layout, it is not possible to write "i" and "İ"
characters in Claws Mail. The other keyboard that called "On-screen keyboard"
has no problem with these characters.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 20 12:32:24 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 10:32:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3812] It is not possible to write "i" and
"=?UTF-8?Q?=C4=B0?=" characters with W8.1's touchscreen keyboard
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3812
--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian ---
Hi, perhaps this might help you, sounds like it could be the same issue you're
having:
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_word-mso_windows8/bug-windows-8-touchscreen-turkish-q-keyboard-opens/9e2662b9-c2de-41b9-9613-0d2000956830
I have no idea what the solution proposed in the last answer is, since I do not
speak Turkish, but hopefully it will be useful to you.
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From clifflaine at europe.com Fri Apr 21 10:23:44 2017
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 09:23:44 +0100
Subject: [Users] 3.15.0 Package for Ubuntu?
In-Reply-To: <20170417084914.35340491@hawk.localdomain>
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On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 08:49:14 -0600
Charles Curley wrote:
>
> Try:
>
> apt-cache show build-essential
>
>
> If that shows that the package is available, edit the line to install
> it.
>
That produces:
Package: build-essential
Priority: optional
Section: devel
Installed-Size: 20
Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers
Original-Maintainer: Matthias Klose
Architecture: i386
Version: 12.1ubuntu2
Depends: libc6-dev | libc-dev, gcc (>= 4:5.2), g++ (>= 4:5.2), make,
dpkg-dev (>= 1.17.11) Filename:
pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_12.1ubuntu2_i386.deb Size:
4756 MD5sum: 1cb9932e040ab09c95aa375a269b9668
SHA1: 592f3a43dd4853f390a4034e30d8aba428176182
SHA256: 071efa6b5921bf68867017d7e2b113ad21505fed187eb385d9125b59bb46d465
Description-en_GB: Informational list of build-essential packages
[...]
Description-md5: 90ef0ef86cafda0bd16f746eb621d9da Bugs:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug Build-Essential: yes
Origin: Ubuntu
Supported: 5y
Task: ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-usb, edubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-usb,
ubuntustudio-audio, ubuntukylin-desktop
N: Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist' in directory
'/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
--------------
I assume that means CM 3.15.0 isn't available to me?
Cliff
From silver.bullet at zoho.com Fri Apr 21 12:14:17 2017
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:14:17 +0200
Subject: [Users] 3.15.0 Package for Ubuntu?
In-Reply-To: <20170421092344.305a893e@korky-Inspiron-1525>
References: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz> <1492367217.811.2.camel@zoho.com>
<20170417134749.201c5ae6@korky-Inspiron-1525>
<20170417144942.4b2ac591@sleipner.datanom.net>
<20170417142837.5662eceb@korky-Inspiron-1525>
<20170417084914.35340491@hawk.localdomain>
<20170421092344.305a893e@korky-Inspiron-1525>
Message-ID: <20170421121417.2a64749e@utnubu>
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 09:23:44 +0100, Cliff Laine wrote:
>N: Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist' in directory
>'/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
>
>--------------
>
>I assume that means CM 3.15.0 isn't available to me?
Read
https://askubuntu.com/questions/829370/n-ignoring-file-50unattended-upgrades-ucf-dist-in-directory-etc-apt-apt-con
this notice is irrelevant, but you anyway could get rid of it.
How did you try to install the package or packages?
Did you run
sudo apt update
sudo apt install build-essential
sudo apt install automake autoconf
?
Perhaps you missed to run "sudo apt update" first?
You could also try running
cd /tmp/
wget http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_12.1ubuntu2_i386.deb
sudo apt update
sudo apt full-upgrade
sudo apt install ./build-essential_12.1ubuntu2_i386.deb
"apt install" does the same as "gdebi" does, it installs the local stored
package and tries to resolve dependencies from the repositories.
If it should fail, post the complete output of the commands and the output of
grep -v "#" /etc/apt/sources.list
Regards,
Ralf
From silver.bullet at zoho.com Fri Apr 21 12:37:15 2017
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:37:15 +0200
Subject: [Users] 3.15.0 Package for Ubuntu?
In-Reply-To: <20170421121417.2a64749e@utnubu>
References: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz> <1492367217.811.2.camel@zoho.com>
<20170417134749.201c5ae6@korky-Inspiron-1525>
<20170417144942.4b2ac591@sleipner.datanom.net>
<20170417142837.5662eceb@korky-Inspiron-1525>
<20170417084914.35340491@hawk.localdomain>
<20170421092344.305a893e@korky-Inspiron-1525>
<20170421121417.2a64749e@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20170421123715.2f590b50@utnubu>
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:14:17 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 09:23:44 +0100, Cliff Laine wrote:
>>N: Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist' in directory
>>'/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
>>
>>--------------
>>
>>I assume that means CM 3.15.0 isn't available to me?
>
>Read
>
>https://askubuntu.com/questions/829370/n-ignoring-file-50unattended-upgrades-ucf-dist-in-directory-etc-apt-apt-con
>
>this notice is irrelevant, but you anyway could get rid of it.
>
>How did you try to install the package or packages?
>
>Did you run
>
>sudo apt update
>sudo apt install build-essential
>sudo apt install automake autoconf
>
>?
>
>Perhaps you missed to run "sudo apt update" first?
>
>You could also try running
>
>cd /tmp/
>wget
>http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_12.1ubuntu2_i386.deb
>sudo apt update sudo apt full-upgrade
>sudo apt install ./build-essential_12.1ubuntu2_i386.deb
>
>"apt install" does the same as "gdebi" does, it installs the local
>stored package and tries to resolve dependencies from the repositories.
>
>If it should fail, post the complete output of the commands and the
>output of
>
>grep -v "#" /etc/apt/sources.list
autoconf is a hard dependency of automake, so you only need to install
autoconf or if you just want to install build-essential, then
automake and autoconf seem to be just suggested dependencies of
build-essential's hard dependency gcc, so you might need to run
sudo apt -o APT::Install-Suggests="true" install build-essential
resp.
sudo apt -o APT::Install-Suggests="true" install ./build-essential_12.1ubuntu2_i386.deb
From silver.bullet at zoho.com Fri Apr 21 12:38:56 2017
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:38:56 +0200
Subject: [Users] 3.15.0 Package for Ubuntu?
In-Reply-To: <20170421123715.2f590b50@utnubu>
References: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz> <1492367217.811.2.camel@zoho.com>
<20170417134749.201c5ae6@korky-Inspiron-1525>
<20170417144942.4b2ac591@sleipner.datanom.net>
<20170417142837.5662eceb@korky-Inspiron-1525>
<20170417084914.35340491@hawk.localdomain>
<20170421092344.305a893e@korky-Inspiron-1525>
<20170421121417.2a64749e@utnubu> <20170421123715.2f590b50@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20170421123856.059c9685@utnubu>
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:37:15 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:14:17 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 09:23:44 +0100, Cliff Laine wrote:
>>>N: Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist' in directory
>>>'/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
>>>
>>>--------------
>>>
>>>I assume that means CM 3.15.0 isn't available to me?
>>
>>Read
>>
>>https://askubuntu.com/questions/829370/n-ignoring-file-50unattended-upgrades-ucf-dist-in-directory-etc-apt-apt-con
>>
>>this notice is irrelevant, but you anyway could get rid of it.
>>
>>How did you try to install the package or packages?
>>
>>Did you run
>>
>>sudo apt update
>>sudo apt install build-essential
>>sudo apt install automake autoconf
>>
>>?
>>
>>Perhaps you missed to run "sudo apt update" first?
>>
>>You could also try running
>>
>>cd /tmp/
>>wget
>>http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_12.1ubuntu2_i386.deb
>>sudo apt update sudo apt full-upgrade
>>sudo apt install ./build-essential_12.1ubuntu2_i386.deb
>>
>>"apt install" does the same as "gdebi" does, it installs the local
>>stored package and tries to resolve dependencies from the
>>repositories.
>>
>>If it should fail, post the complete output of the commands and the
>>output of
>>
>>grep -v "#" /etc/apt/sources.list
>
>autoconf is a hard dependency of automake, so you only need to install
>autoconf or if you just want to install build-essential, then
^^^^^^^^
Oops, this should read automake
>automake and autoconf seem to be just suggested dependencies of
>build-essential's hard dependency gcc, so you might need to run
>
>sudo apt -o APT::Install-Suggests="true" install build-essential
>
>resp.
>
>sudo apt -o APT::Install-Suggests="true"
>install ./build-essential_12.1ubuntu2_i386.deb
From victoria.a.stuart at gmail.com Fri Apr 21 20:09:07 2017
From: victoria.a.stuart at gmail.com (Victoria Stuart (gmail))
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 11:09:07 -0700
Subject: [Users] Processing rules on folder without opening it?
Message-ID: <20170421110907.007b081a@gmail.com>
I have various email accounts, each with an Inbox and a processing rule (filter: all new mail move to another folder ...).
I want to automatically move the messages that arrive in those Inbox folders to a default Inbox (my main email account), without first having to click those various Inboxes (to trigger the filter).
How can I accomplish this?
==============================================================================
From myetto1 at nycap.rr.com Fri Apr 21 21:23:36 2017
From: myetto1 at nycap.rr.com (Michael A. Yetto)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 15:23:36 -0400
Subject: [Users] Processing rules on folder without opening it?
In-Reply-To: <20170421110907.007b081a@gmail.com>
References: <20170421110907.007b081a@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20170421152336.6d183d89@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 11:09:07 -0700
"Victoria Stuart (gmail)" writes, and
having writ moves on:
>I have various email accounts, each with an Inbox and a processing
>rule (filter: all new mail move to another folder ...).
>
>I want to automatically move the messages that arrive in those Inbox
>folders to a default Inbox (my main email account), without first
>having to click those various Inboxes (to trigger the filter).
>
>How can I accomplish this?
>
I think what you want is under Configuration / Edit Account / Edit /
Receive; set Filter messages on receiving.
And then, of course, create the appropriate filters.
Mike Yetto
--
"The important thing in science is not so much to obtain new facts as to
discover new ways of thinking about them."
- Sir William Henry Bragg, Nobel Prize for Physics, 1915
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From victoria.a.stuart at gmail.com Fri Apr 21 21:39:13 2017
From: victoria.a.stuart at gmail.com (Victoria Stuart (gmail))
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:39:13 -0700
Subject: [Users] Processing rules on folder without opening it?
In-Reply-To: <20170421152336.6d183d89@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
References: <20170421110907.007b081a@gmail.com>
<20170421152336.6d183d89@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
Message-ID: <20170421123715.016b9eb4@VictoriasJourney.com>
Thank you for your suggestion, but I have that enabled, already, on all my mail accounts:
"Configuration / Edit Accounts / Edit / Receive: set Filter messages on receiving."
==============================================================================
>I have various email accounts, each with an Inbox and a processing
>rule (filter: all new mail move to another folder ...).
>
>I want to automatically move the messages that arrive in those Inbox
>folders to a default Inbox (my main email account), without first
>having to click those various Inboxes (to trigger the filter).
>
>How can I accomplish this?
I think what you want is under Configuration / Edit Account / Edit /
Receive; set Filter messages on receiving.
And then, of course, create the appropriate filters.
==============================================================================
From victoria.a.stuart at gmail.com Fri Apr 21 21:46:48 2017
From: victoria.a.stuart at gmail.com (Victoria Stuart (gmail))
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:46:48 -0700
Subject: [Users] Processing rules on folder without opening it?
In-Reply-To: <20170421123715.016b9eb4@VictoriasJourney.com>
References: <20170421110907.007b081a@gmail.com>
<20170421152336.6d183d89@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
<20170421123715.016b9eb4@VictoriasJourney.com>
Message-ID: <20170421124648.2fb7b139@gmail.com>
OK: working now, for some reason! Thank you - very much appreciated! :-D
==============================================================================
----- Original Message(s): -----
Date: 2017 Apr 21 (Fri) 12:39
From: "Victoria Stuart (gmail)"
To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Cc: mail at VictoriasJourney.com
Subject: Re: [Users] Processing rules on folder without opening it?
Thank you for your suggestion, but I have that enabled, already, on all my mail accounts:
"Configuration / Edit Accounts / Edit / Receive: set Filter messages on receiving."
==============================================================================
>I have various email accounts, each with an Inbox and a processing
>rule (filter: all new mail move to another folder ...).
>
>I want to automatically move the messages that arrive in those Inbox
>folders to a default Inbox (my main email account), without first
>having to click those various Inboxes (to trigger the filter).
>
>How can I accomplish this?
I think what you want is under Configuration / Edit Account / Edit /
Receive; set Filter messages on receiving.
And then, of course, create the appropriate filters.
==============================================================================
From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 21 22:46:45 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:46:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3813] New: "mouse up" activates link even if "mouse
down" occurred outside the link / cannot copy link text
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3813
Bug ID: 3813
Summary: "mouse up" activates link even if "mouse down"
occurred outside the link / cannot copy link text
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail
Version: 3.14.1
Hardware: PC
OS: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: Plugins/Fancy
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: thewildbeast at osndok.com
I often receive emails that have a single linkified identifier.
e.g.
Tracking Number: 123456
...where "123456" is an HTML link.
...sometimes with a few characters noise after it.
...sometimes with "more linked text" before it.
As a user, I want to copy the *text* of the link.
Experimentally, I find:
* If I right click on the link, there is an option to copy it's URL, but not
it's text.
* If I try to highlight the text *starting* inside the link, it begins a
drag-and-drop operation (thinking that I want to open it in a browser, for
example)
* If I start the highlight from outside, but *end* inside the link... then the
software interprets that I was trying to click the link,
* Using Ctrl, Alt, or Shift modifier keys does not produce an effect that would
let me more easily select the desired text
Therefore, the only way (that I know of) to perform this operation in the
fancy/html view is to select *MORE* than the link (both before and after), and
then trim it again wherever I end up pasting it; which seems like it is "twice
the work" of normal copy-and-paste workflows.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 21 22:53:11 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:53:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3814] New: using 'escape' to cancel a dragged link
often opens it as if it is clicked... sometimes twice
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3814
Bug ID: 3814
Summary: using 'escape' to cancel a dragged link often opens it
as if it is clicked... sometimes twice
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail
Version: 3.14.1
Hardware: PC
OS: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: Plugins/Fancy
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: thewildbeast at osndok.com
Steps to reproduce:
1. optionally: begin holding down alt or control
2. start dragging a link at least outside of it's own bounds-box
3. press any key (or release modifier)
4. press escape to cancel the drag
Expected:
* the dragged link should pop back in place, without further action
Actual:
* the dragged link pops back in place, but
* claws 'activates' the link in the default web browser
* ...sometimes *TWICE*.
I might guess that claws/fancy is reacting to it's own cancelled drag-and-drop
event, but the behavior is a bit weird... especially the
double-opening-when-trying-to-cancel effect.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 22 01:18:18 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 23:18:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3814] end of mouse drag or text selection erroneously
activates links
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3814
Andrej Kacian changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Summary|using 'escape' to cancel a |end of mouse drag or text
|dragged link often opens it |selection erroneously
|as if it is clicked... |activates links
|sometimes twice |
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 22 01:23:53 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 23:23:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3813] "mouse up" activates link even if "mouse down"
occurred outside the link / cannot copy link text
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3813
Andrej Kacian changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |FIXED
--- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/
++ ChangeLog 2017-04-22 01:07:03.017939284 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=d9d8a5d80d1dadeca265c2de33e04c3507d579ec
Merge: 8bbce16 fd6bb2a
Author: Colin Leroy
Date: Sat Apr 22 01:07:02 2017 +0200
Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=fd6bb2ab3c69ddfbe3e500f011186bdde6ab6a62
Author: Andrej Kacian
Date: Sat Apr 22 01:04:10 2017 +0200
Fancy: correctly handle when text selection event ends on a link
Fixes bug #3813 - "mouse up" activates link even if "mouse down"
occurred outside the link / cannot copy link text
...with a small caveat where this is not implemented for
webkitgtk version earlier than 1.5.1, because I couldn't find
relevant old enough API documentation.
--- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian ---
Thanks for the report. Together with the fix for #3814, links, selecting and
selection dragging should behave more or less predictably, and similarly to how
Firefox handles it.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 22 01:24:09 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 23:24:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3814] end of mouse drag or text selection erroneously
activates links
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3814
Andrej Kacian changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |FIXED
--- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/
++ ChangeLog 2017-04-22 01:19:02.632313343 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=12831f0f8f2555230f84893083cb14467eaf21b7
Merge: d9d8a5d ab84747
Author: Colin Leroy
Date: Sat Apr 22 01:19:02 2017 +0200
Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=ab847472955f979cb63bf0a9b576383e51ef5094
Author: Andrej Kacian
Date: Sat Apr 22 01:15:30 2017 +0200
Fancy: simplify open-or-not decision to x,y matching or not
Fixes bug #3814: end of mouse drag or text selection erroneously
activates links
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From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Mon Apr 24 08:40:25 2017
From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:40:25 +1000
Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ?
Message-ID: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
Hi,
Using Mail on Kubuntu 16.04.1 and there are LOTS of problems. Has anyone on
this list changed over from KMail please ? I have looked here and there
regards docs about this, but doesn't seem comprehensive. Or I looked in the
wrong places, .. lol
Have installed Claws and it is now looking in my /home/****/Mail path, plus
added a heap of files. Anyway, I didn't want to get too bogged down initially
with questions, but if there is a KMail/akonadi expert here, would much
appreciate it. (I have to restart the akonadi server many times each day,
..sigh).
Regards,
Peter
From slitt at troubleshooters.com Mon Apr 24 09:22:29 2017
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 03:22:29 -0400
Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ?
In-Reply-To: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
Message-ID: <20170424032229.072a0155@mydesk.domain.cxm>
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:40:25 +1000, Peter
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Using Mail on Kubuntu 16.04.1 and there are LOTS of problems. Has
> anyone on this list changed over from KMail please ? I have looked
> here and there regards docs about this, but doesn't seem
> comprehensive. Or I looked in the wrong places, .. lol
I ran away from Kmail about the time they became Kmail2, and I've never
been sorry. Here's the story:
http://troubleshooters.com/lpm/201202/201202.htm
>
> Have installed Claws and it is now looking in my /home/****/Mail
> path, plus added a heap of files. Anyway, I didn't want to get too
> bogged down initially with questions, but if there is a KMail/akonadi
> expert here, would much appreciate it. (I have to restart the
> akonadi server many times each day, ..sigh).
Akonadi, Nepomuk, and out of control dbus-daemons are the reasons I
left Kmail. I don't think ANYBODY is an expert at these things. If
you're having akonadi problems, I suggest you get out of Kmail while it
still works.
The way I made the transition was:
1) Make a local Dovecot IMAP server
2) Nurse Kmail to work long enough to copy all my mailboxes in their
various trees to the local IMAP server.
3) Set up Claws-Mail to be able to interact with the local IMAP server.
I never copied the IMAP server account to Claws mailboxes: I just use
Claws as a window into my IMAP server. That way if I ever want to
switch from Claws to Alpine or Mutt, it's as easy as having Alpine or
Mutt look at the existing IMAP server account.Matter of fact, I have a
parallel Alpine email client looking at my IMAP all the time, in case
of troubleshooting or other questions. Instead of using Claws
filters, I just use Procmail to distribute my mail to various boxes
within the IMAP server, so all my email gets properly organized, no
matter the email client I'm using..
Be sure you set your IMAP up as ssl only. Nobody needs to be sending
passwords in the clear.
HTH,
From edodd55 at gmail.com Mon Apr 24 12:04:20 2017
From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:04:20 +1000
Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ?
In-Reply-To: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
Message-ID: <20170424200420.343da242.edodd55@gmail.com>
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:40:25 +1000
Peter wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Using Mail on Kubuntu 16.04.1 and there are LOTS of problems. Has
> anyone on this list changed over from KMail please ? I have looked
> here and there regards docs about this, but doesn't seem
> comprehensive. Or I looked in the wrong places, .. lol
>
> Have installed Claws and it is now looking in my /home/****/Mail
> path, plus added a heap of files. Anyway, I didn't want to get too
> bogged down initially with questions, but if there is a KMail/akonadi
> expert here, would much appreciate it. (I have to restart the
> akonadi server many times each day, ..sigh).
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
>
>
as a long time claws-mail user I converted my husband's Kmail to
claws-mail because the akonadi server wouldn't start and so on and so
forth.
I used a script to convert the Kmail mailbox format ready for
Claws-mail and it was excellent. Somewhere on the web site!
Then I made a few filters and showed him how to make filters and
organise his mail and have provided no further assistance. He is
managing it well without it.
Liz
From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Mon Apr 24 13:58:44 2017
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron))
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 07:58:44 -0400
Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ?
In-Reply-To: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
Message-ID: <20170424075844.2a604860@ron.cerrocora.org>
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:40:25 +1000
Peter wrote:
> Using Mail on Kubuntu 16.04.1 and there are LOTS of problems. Has anyone on
> this list changed over from KMail please ? I have looked here and there
> regards docs about this, but doesn't seem comprehensive. Or I looked in the
> wrong places, .. lol
Reposting what I sent to various lists in 2012 (KDE, Claws-mail, Mageia)
Cheers,
Ron.
--
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-- P.E. Trudeau
-- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
Migrating from KMAil-1 (with mbox) to Claws-Mail
Having got fed up with KDE as the years went by and KDE became more and more bloatware, I have finally decided to bite the bullet because Mageia-1 has reached its end of life, and upgrading to Mageia-2 (or 3) entails moving to Kmail-2, of which I had heard less-than-shining reports; so the time has come now to migrate to Claws Mail, get rid of KDE and move to a lighter Desktop Environment in the new release of Mageia. This is how I have done it.
First open Kmail, "un-tree" any folder that is inside another folder, and bring them up to the "Local folders" level. Then compact all folders (or deleted mails will re-appear).
Open addressbook, and export as a LDIF file.
Create a temporary directory (~/toto) and use Valentin Koch's mbox2mh script to migrate all your mbox mail folders from /.kde4/share/apps/kmail/mail to mh folders in ~/toto. This is to avoid any unpleasantness if any of your Kmail folders have the same name as a CM folder. Then move all those folders from ~/toto to your CM directory, changing names if needed.
Open CM, right-click on the top item of the folders list "mailmh (MH)" and click "Check for new folders"; wait while _all_ your mails are gone through; then right-click on each folder in turn, and click "Mark all as read" (all your mails were read, no ?).
Go to Tools => Addressbook, then Tools => Import LDIF file to add the content of your Kmail addressbook to the CM addressbook.
If you had but a few filter rules, re-create them with the GUI; if you had a mort of them, see below.
Good luck.
Migrating mail filtering rules from KMAil to Claws-Mail
Getting fed up with KDE as the years go by and KDE becomes more and more
bloatware, I finally decided to bite the bullet, to get rid of KDE and move
to a lighter Desktop Environment; the only thing keeping me in KDE was KMail,
with over 125 filtering rules I did not relish entering one by one using the
Claws-MailGUI.
So I looked into how could I speed up the process by working directly on the
config files.
In KMail, the filter rules are part of ~/.kde4/share/config/kmailrc where each
rule is in a paragraph beginning with [FilterN] with N the ID number of the
rule. In Claws-Mail, they are in ~/.claws-mail/matcherrc, where each rule
occupys one line.
Since about 95% of my rules were based on whether a given string was present
in either the Subject header, the From header or the whole message, and simply
moved the message to a given folder, I have decided to concentrate on those,
and do with the GUI the few remaining and more complicated rules.
For the rules based on the presence of a string, in KMail each rule has lines
for name= (the name of the rule), one or several filedA, fieldB etc lines for
Subject, Message, From etc, the same number of contentsA, contentsB etc lines
for the strings, an action-args line for the name of the folder, and an
action-name=transfer indicating what the rule does; dead simple.
In Claws-Mail, each rule line starts with 'enabled rulename "Name Of The
Rule"' indicating the rule is active, and called 'Name Of The Rule', then one
or several 'subject matchcase "string1"', 'from matchcase "string2"' or
'message matchcase "string3"' that indicate which header to filter on with
what string, those being separated by '|' if any condition is sufficient for
the rule, and '&' if all conditions must be fulfilled.
So I started by making a dummy rule file with the gui, which I then edited
using Kwrite; it holds the building blocks I will use for cutting and pasting
the rules together, with the addition of strings I will cut and paste from
kmailrc :
[preglobal]
[postglobal]
[filtering]
enabled rulename "" subject matchcase "" move "#mh/mailmh/"
enabled rulename "" from matchcase "" move "#mh/mailmh/"
enabled rulename "" message matchcase "" move "#mh/mailmh/"
| subject matchcase ""
| from matchcase ""
| message matchcase ""
Mode d'Emploi :
Start building your rule with one of the three 'enabled rulename....'
segments, depending on whether the first condition of your rule is on Subject,
>From or Message. If your rule is on Message Body, Any Header etc adjust to
suit.
Add | subject..., | from.... and | message... segments to match all the
FieldA, FieldB, etc in the Kmail rule, to build the skeleton of the rule.
Copy and paste the name, contentsA, B etc. and action-arg strings from kmailrc
in their places between the "" in your rule skeleton.
And Presto, your rule is done. If your rule depends on all conditions being
fulfilled together, replace all the '|' of the rule with '&'. If you want your
rule to be case-sensitive, use 'match' instead of 'matchcase'.
While a rule in KMail is limited to eight conditions, there does not seem to
be any such limitation in Claws-Mail, which means that if you were compelled
in KMail to split a rule in several rules doing the same action, you can bring
them all together in Claws-Mail.
To check for mis-pasted or forgotten strings, search your file for the strings
'""' and 'mailmh/"'.
Once you have finished editing matcherrc, you will have to restart Claws-Mail
for the new filter rules to be taken into account.
enabled rulename "test1" subject matchcase "Test2" move "#mh/mailmh/trash"
mark_as_read
enabled rulename "test2" from matchcase "olgiati" & subject matchcase "test" &
subject match "Case Sensitive" & from regexpcase "ABC*"
& headers_part matchcase "headers" & body_part matchcase "body" & message
matchcase "whole message" delete
A quick syntax and vocabulary :
enabled | disabled : whether the rule is active or not.
rulename "string" : the identifier of the rule.
[ from | subject | message | body_part | headers_part ] [match | matchcase |
regexpcase ] "string" Where to look for the string, and how (case sensitive,
insensitive, regular expression) A tilde ~ at the beginning implies a
negation.of the condition. | means OR, & means AND and the two should not
AFAIK be mixed in a rule.
[move "#mh/mailmh/string" | delete] : move message to the mail folder string,
or delete it.
From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 24 14:17:45 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:17:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3644] Fancy renders blank page for most html emails
when using shared-mime-info 1.6
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3644
--- Comment #10 from Martin Nicholas ---
Yep, Fiddling with mime types does indeed nullify the effect of this bug. This
is achieved at the expense of another (unknown) program which is now broken in
some way.
Furthermore, under certain circumstances a link in an HTML mail such as:
To the top
opens this temporary file in the default (?) browser, rather than the required
behaviour of scrolling to the top.
A typical user will regard both these behaviours as bugs. Hint: There are no
typical users reading this thread.
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From dan_arico at aricosystems.com Mon Apr 24 17:16:44 2017
From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 11:16:44 -0400
Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ?
In-Reply-To: <20170424200420.343da242.edodd55@gmail.com>
References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
<20170424200420.343da242.edodd55@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20170424111644.3a47100c.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
> Peter wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Using Mail on Kubuntu 16.04.1 and there are LOTS of problems. Has
> > anyone on this list changed over from KMail please ? I have looked
> > here and there regards docs about this, but doesn't seem
> > comprehensive. Or I looked in the wrong places, .. lol
> >
> > Have installed Claws and it is now looking in my /home/****/Mail
> > path, plus added a heap of files. Anyway, I didn't want to get too
> > bogged down initially with questions, but if there is a
> > KMail/akonadi expert here, would much appreciate it. (I have to
> > restart the akonadi server many times each day, ..sigh).
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> as a long time claws-mail user I converted my husband's Kmail to
> claws-mail because the akonadi server wouldn't start and so on and so
> forth.
>
> I used a script to convert the Kmail mailbox format ready for
> Claws-mail and it was excellent. Somewhere on the web site!
>
> Then I made a few filters and showed him how to make filters and
> organise his mail and have provided no further assistance. He is
> managing it well without it.
>
> Liz
This is the script I used to do the conversion. I found it on the web.
kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.pl
Dan Arico
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From iwkse at claws-mail.org Mon Apr 24 18:13:02 2017
From: iwkse at claws-mail.org (Salvatore De Paolis)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:13:02 +0200
Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ?
In-Reply-To: <20170424111644.3a47100c.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
<20170424200420.343da242.edodd55@gmail.com>
<20170424111644.3a47100c.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
Message-ID: <20170424181302.7233fbc0@net24.it>
Hi Dan,
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 11:16:44 -0400
Dan Arico wrote:
>
> This is the script I used to do the conversion. I found it on the web.
>
> kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.pl
>
> Dan Arico
>
Well that's a Paul (claws) script and it's in claws mail sources, tools folder
--
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 24 18:22:52 2017
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:22:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ?
In-Reply-To: <20170424181302.7233fbc0@net24.it>
References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
<20170424200420.343da242.edodd55@gmail.com>
<20170424111644.3a47100c.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
<20170424181302.7233fbc0@net24.it>
Message-ID: <20170424172252.71b84a40@kujata>
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:13:02 +0200
Salvatore De Paolis wrote:
> Well that's a Paul (claws) script and it's in claws mail sources,
> tools folder
Yeah, it's listed here: http://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php and
downloadable here:
http://www.claws-mail.org/tools/claws-mail_kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.tar.gz
Good to hear that it is still useful :)
with regards
Paul
From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Mon Apr 24 18:44:10 2017
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 10:44:10 -0600
Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ?
In-Reply-To: <20170424111644.3a47100c.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
<20170424200420.343da242.edodd55@gmail.com>
<20170424111644.3a47100c.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
Message-ID: <20170424104410.73ba6723@hawk.localdomain>
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 11:16:44 -0400
Dan Arico wrote:
> This is the script I used to do the conversion. I found it on the web.
>
> kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.pl
For address book conversion, there is also csv2addressbook.pl, also
available at the claws tools web page.
http://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php
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and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
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From bvamundsen at yahoo.com Mon Apr 24 19:08:55 2017
From: bvamundsen at yahoo.com (Brian)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:08:55 -0500
Subject: [Users] HTML Support within Claws-mail
Message-ID: <20170424120855.2214e7a1@hicrest1.UGATE2>
I understand that claws-mail is intended for text not HTML, but some of
my subscribed sites don't offer text only (example FORMED
). So I installed the Fancy plugin
and allowed remote content, images, java script, and plugins. However I
find that some websites still don't render and instead I end up with a
blank preview box. Currently don't have firewall or antimalware
running.
Is there something I'm forgetting to do, or is Fancy not expected to
convert all HTML?
It seems the ones encoded with UTF-8 although they are
multi-part message in MIME format, always fail. Is this an issue with
my webkitgtk build or an issue that fancy only allows 7-bit?
Cheers, Brian
From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 24 19:07:11 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:07:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3815] New: Present available secret GPG keys for
selection in account preferences
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3815
Bug ID: 3815
Summary: Present available secret GPG keys for selection in
account preferences
Classification: Unclassified
Product: Claws Mail
Version: GIT
Hardware: All
OS: All
Status: NEW
Severity: enhancement
Priority: P3
Component: Plugins/Privacy/PGP
Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Reporter: andrej at kacian.sk
GPGME can be used to get secret key IDs from the keyring, and a
GtkComboBoxEntry could be used to make them available for selection.
With GtkComboBoxEntry, user can still type the key ID directly.
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 24 19:08:44 2017
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:08:44 +0100
Subject: [Users] HTML Support within Claws-mail
In-Reply-To: <20170424120855.2214e7a1@hicrest1.UGATE2>
References: <20170424120855.2214e7a1@hicrest1.UGATE2>
Message-ID: <20170424180844.5aced398@kujata>
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:08:55 -0500
Brian wrote:
> I understand that claws-mail is intended for text not HTML, but
> some of my subscribed sites don't offer text only (example FORMED
> ). So I installed the Fancy plugin
> and allowed remote content, images, java script, and plugins.
> However I find that some websites still don't render and instead I
> end up with a blank preview box. Currently don't have firewall or
> antimalware running.
See
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3644
Claws Mail is intended to display html msgs, but not create them.
with regards
Paul
From andrej at kacian.sk Mon Apr 24 19:10:09 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 19:10:09 +0200
Subject: [Users] HTML Support within Claws-mail
In-Reply-To: <20170424120855.2214e7a1@hicrest1.UGATE2>
References: <20170424120855.2214e7a1@hicrest1.UGATE2>
Message-ID: <20170424191009.72c19fcc@penny>
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:08:55 -0500
Brian wrote:
> I understand that claws-mail is intended for text not HTML, but some of
> my subscribed sites don't offer text only (example FORMED
> ). So I installed the Fancy plugin
> and allowed remote content, images, java script, and plugins. However I
> find that some websites still don't render and instead I end up with a
> blank preview box. Currently don't have firewall or antimalware
> running.
>
> Is there something I'm forgetting to do, or is Fancy not expected to
> convert all HTML?
>
> It seems the ones encoded with UTF-8 although they are
> multi-part message in MIME format, always fail. Is this an issue with
> my webkitgtk build or an issue that fancy only allows 7-bit?
See
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3644
for a possible reason.
Regards,
--
Andrej
From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 24 21:19:49 2017
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 19:19:49 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3815] Present available secret GPG keys for selection
in account preferences
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3815
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From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com Mon Apr 24 21:45:07 2017
From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:45:07 +0200
Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ?
In-Reply-To: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
Message-ID: <20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Dear Peter,
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:40:25 +1000, Peter
wrote:
> Using Mail on Kubuntu 16.04.1 and there are LOTS of problems. Has
> anyone on this list changed over from KMail please ? I have looked
> here and there regards docs about this, but doesn't seem
> comprehensive. Or I looked in the wrong places, .. lol
>
> Have installed Claws and it is now looking in my /home/****/Mail
> path, plus added a heap of files. Anyway, I didn't want to get too
> bogged down initially with questions, but if there is a KMail/akonadi
> expert here, would much appreciate it. (I have to restart the
> akonadi server many times each day, ..sigh).
I was a long-term user of KMail (since at least 2001) on my home
computer. When KMail2 came out, I held off on upgrading because of
several showstopping bugs I read about on the KDE Bugzilla. Years and
years passed and these bugs didn't get fixed; meanwhile I was stuck
using an increasingly antiquated operating system (openSUSE 11.4, from
2012) since all newer versions of it packaged only KMail2. Last year I
finally broke down and upgraded the OS to the most recent version.
Predictably, KMail2 turned out to be a nightmare. Converting my old
mail folders was fraught with problems. When I finally got that sorted
out, I was bitten by the infamous message duplication bug wherein extra
copies of messages would appear whenever the filters were run. None of
the workarounds from the dozen or so bug reports worked for me. I had
no choice but to switch to another mail client. Though I use Thunderbird
at work, its filtering system is underpowered and buggy. Claws Mail
seemed to be the only other option.
In KMail2, as in KMail, my mail was stored in maildir folders, so the
easiest migration path to Claws Mail was to set up a local IMAP server
-- Dovecot -- and copy over my maildir folders. I then set up an IMAP
account in Claws Mail pointing at the local IMAP server.
I couldn't find any way of easily and accurately migrating my KMail(2)
filters, so I manually recreated them all in Claws Mail. It took me a
while to get the hang of Claws Mail's filters and actions.
The only thing that I haven't been able to migrate to my satisfaction
is the address book. KMail2 gets the address book from KAddressbook,
which uses vCards. But Claws Mail supports neither vCards nor
CalDAV servers -- at least not very well. I did manage to export the
KAddressbook entries and import them into Claws Mail, but almost all
the fields other than the name and e-mail address were lost.
At this point, I'm waiting either for better vCard/CalDAV support
in Claws Mail (in which case I'll consider my migration to Claws Mail
complete), or for KMail2 to fix their mail duplication bug, in which
case I might switch back to KMail2.
Regards,
Tristan
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From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Mon Apr 24 22:02:51 2017
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 14:02:51 -0600
Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ?
In-Reply-To: <20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
<20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Message-ID: <20170424140251.3f00e1e4@hawk.localdomain>
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:45:07 +0200
Tristan Miller wrote:
> The only thing that I haven't been able to migrate to my satisfaction
> is the address book.
Have you tried csv2addressbook.pl? http://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php
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place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com Mon Apr 24 22:04:37 2017
From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:04:37 +0200
Subject: [Users] Opening mailto: links with Claws Mail in KDE
Message-ID: <20170424220437.07173b12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Greetings.
Apropos of the recent thread on using Claws Mail instead of KMail, does
anyone know how to get recent versions of KDE to open mailto: links in
Claws Mail instead of KMail?
This is supposed to be accomplished by launching System Settings,
selecting Default Applications->Email Client->Use a different
email client, and then entering "claws-mail %u" in the input box.
However, this setting doesn't work. The system opens all mailto: links
in KMail even when "Use a different email client" is selected.
There is a longstanding bug report for this issue at
. Does anyone here know
of a workaround, short of uninstalling KMail? (Maybe I could
symlink /usr/bin/kmail to /usr/bin/claws-mail, though that would get
overwritten every time KMail is upgraded.)
Regards,
Tristan
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From brad at fineby.me.uk Mon Apr 24 22:50:48 2017
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:50:48 +0100
Subject: [Users] Opening mailto: links with Claws Mail in KDE
In-Reply-To: <20170424220437.07173b12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
References: <20170424220437.07173b12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Message-ID: <20170424215048.655a1a60@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:04:37 +0200
Tristan Miller wrote:
Hello Tristan,
>This is supposed to be accomplished by launching System Settings,
>selecting Default Applications->Email Client->Use a different
>email client, and then entering "claws-mail %u" in the input box.
>
>However, this setting doesn't work. The system opens all mailto: links
I was going to say "Works for me", but reading further I see that's only
the case because I don't have KMail installed (I never have).
Rather than remove KMail, you /could/ try renaming the binary. That way,
KDE shouldn't be able to find it, hopefully.
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From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Mon Apr 24 22:54:35 2017
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron))
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:54:35 -0400
Subject: [Users] Opening mailto: links with Claws Mail in KDE
In-Reply-To: <20170424220437.07173b12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
References: <20170424220437.07173b12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Message-ID: <20170424165435.73a5ae33@ron.cerrocora.org>
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:04:37 +0200
Tristan Miller wrote:
> Apropos of the recent thread on using Claws Mail instead of KMail, does
> anyone know how to get recent versions of KDE to open mailto: links in
> Claws Mail instead of KMail?
Possible (horrible) bodge:
- Remove Kmail
- Creat in /usr/bin/ a link /usr/bin/kmail pointing to /usr/bin/claws-mail
Cheers,
Ron.
--
If I had better tools,
I could more effectively demonstrate
my total incompetence.
-- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
From andrej at kacian.sk Mon Apr 24 23:01:56 2017
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 23:01:56 +0200
Subject: [Users] Opening mailto: links with Claws Mail in KDE
In-Reply-To: <20170424215048.655a1a60@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20170424220437.07173b12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
<20170424215048.655a1a60@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20170424230156.2b01d834@penny>
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:50:48 +0100
Brad Rogers wrote:
> I was going to say "Works for me", but reading further I see that's only
> the case because I don't have KMail installed (I never have).
I'd like to say "Works for me, even with kmail installed". I am using
KDE 5.28 on Debian Testing, and following command in systemsettings:
claws-mail --compose "%u"
Version of my (totally unused and unusable) kmail:
$ kmail --version
kmail2 5.2.3
HTH,
--
Andrej
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From geek at uniserve.com Tue Apr 25 00:04:43 2017
From: geek at uniserve.com (Dave Stevens)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 15:04:43 -0700
Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ?
In-Reply-To: <20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
<20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Message-ID: <20170424150443.65e6f629@user-Satellite-A100>
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:45:07 +0200
Tristan Miller wrote:
> Dear Peter,
>
> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:40:25 +1000, Peter
> wrote:
> > Using Mail on Kubuntu 16.04.1 and there are LOTS of problems. Has
> > anyone on this list changed over from KMail please ? I have looked
> > here and there regards docs about this, but doesn't seem
> > comprehensive. Or I looked in the wrong places, .. lol
well my experiences parallel yours. I loved kmail when it was first
released, got stuck in KM2 from an upgrade and had to divert my
attention into akonadi maintenance when I would rather have had a simple
mail client. Claws fits me just so, a nice simple predictable pop
client, all I want really.
Dave
--
In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the
usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are
not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to simplistic
questions.
----- Ursula Le Guin
From bvamundsen at yahoo.com Tue Apr 25 00:33:54 2017
From: bvamundsen at yahoo.com (Brian)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:33:54 -0500
Subject: [Users] SOLVED - HTML Support within Claws-mail
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20170424173354.72c19675@hicrest1.UGATE2>
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:51:00 +0200
users-request at lists.claws-mail.org wrote:
.
.
> From: Paul
> To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] HTML Support within Claws-mail
> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:08:44 +0100
>
> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:08:55 -0500
> Brian wrote:
> > ...
> > However I find that some websites still don't render and instead I
> > end up with a blank preview box. Currently don't have firewall or
> > antimalware running.
>
>
> See
> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3644
>
> Claws Mail is intended to display html msgs, but not create them.
>
> with regards
>
> Paul
>
>
> From: Andrej Kacian
> To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] HTML Support within Claws-mail
> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 19:10:09 +0200
>
> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:08:55 -0500
> Brian wrote:
>
> > ...So I installed the Fancy plugin
> > and allowed remote content, images, java script, and plugins.
> > However I find that some websites still don't render and instead I
> > end up with a blank preview box. ...
> See
> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3644
> for a possible reason.
>
> Regards,
Problem solved by following the solution suggested in the
attached links.
.
.
--------------------------------------
Pax tecum, absit iniuria;
Brian
Addendum:
A: Because it makes understanding the conversation harder!
Q: What is wrong with top replying?
From silver.bullet at zoho.com Tue Apr 25 00:42:01 2017
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 00:42:01 +0200
Subject: [Users] HTML Support within Claws-mail
In-Reply-To: <20170424120855.2214e7a1@hicrest1.UGATE2>
References: <20170424120855.2214e7a1@hicrest1.UGATE2>
Message-ID: <20170425004201.605086c5@utnubu>
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:08:55 -0500, Brian wrote:
>I find that some websites still don't render and instead I end up with
>a blank preview box.
Here Claws is set up to display only plain text. Some HTML only mails
show an empty preview, unless I click the small HTML icon on the right
vertical bar.
From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Tue Apr 25 00:48:34 2017
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron))
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:48:34 -0400
Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ?
In-Reply-To: <20170424150443.65e6f629@user-Satellite-A100>
References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
<20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
<20170424150443.65e6f629@user-Satellite-A100>
Message-ID: <20170424184834.110a25fd@ron.cerrocora.org>
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 15:04:43 -0700
Dave Stevens wrote:
> > Using Mail on Kubuntu 16.04.1 and there are LOTS of problems. Has
> > anyone on this list changed over from KMail please ? I have looked
> > here and there regards docs about this, but doesn't seem
> > comprehensive. Or I looked in the wrong places, .. lol
> well my experiences parallel yours. I loved kmail when it was first
> released, got stuck in KM2 from an upgrade and had to divert my
> attention into akonadi maintenance when I would rather have had a simple
> mail client. Claws fits me just so, a nice simple predictable pop
> client, all I want really.
Similar for me: was very pleased to find Kmail when I switched from Windows to Mandrake Linux in the late nineties, as it was very similar then to Eudora I had run under Win95.
Later, as KDE became more and more bloated, it was only Kmail that kept me from moving to something lighter, which I finally did five years ago, and started using Claws-Mail.
Wonder how many of us here are old Eudora users...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
You can't fall off the floor.
-- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Tue Apr 25 00:50:12 2017
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron))
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:50:12 -0400
Subject: [Users] HTML Support within Claws-mail
In-Reply-To: <20170424120855.2214e7a1@hicrest1.UGATE2>
References: <20170424120855.2214e7a1@hicrest1.UGATE2>
Message-ID: <20170424185012.0710c60a@ron.cerrocora.org>
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:08:55 -0500
Brian wrote:
> I find that some websites still don't render and instead I end up with a
> blank preview box. Currently don't have firewall or antimalware
> running.
Claws-Mail is an email client, not a web browser...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
You can't fall off the floor.
-- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
From geek at uniserve.com Tue Apr 25 00:59:19 2017
From: geek at uniserve.com (Dave Stevens)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 15:59:19 -0700
Subject: [Users] longer term stats?
Message-ID: <20170424155919.34c0a162@user-Satellite-A100>
In 3.13.2 when I click help -> about and the statistics tab I get stats
for this session only. Is there a specifier for longer periods?
Dave
--
In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the
usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are
not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to
simplistic questions.
----- Ursula Le Guin
From geek at uniserve.com Tue Apr 25 01:00:47 2017
From: geek at uniserve.com (Dave Stevens)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:00:47 -0700
Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ?
In-Reply-To: <20170424184834.110a25fd@ron.cerrocora.org>
References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
<20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
<20170424150443.65e6f629@user-Satellite-A100>
<20170424184834.110a25fd@ron.cerrocora.org>
Message-ID: <20170424160047.5b073666@user-Satellite-A100>
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:48:34 -0400
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> predictable pop client, all I want really.
>
> Similar for me: was very pleased to find Kmail when I switched from
> Windows to Mandrake Linux in the late nineties, as it was very
> similar then to Eudora I had run under Win95.
>
> Later, as KDE became more and more bloated, it was only Kmail that
> kept me from moving to something lighter, which I finally did five
> years ago, and started using Claws-Mail.
>
> Wonder how many of us here are old Eudora users...
well, me for one
d
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ron.
--
In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the
usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are
not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to
simplistic questions.
----- Ursula Le Guin
From silver.bullet at zoho.com Tue Apr 25 01:01:57 2017
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 01:01:57 +0200
Subject: [Users] HTML Support within Claws-mail
In-Reply-To: <20170424185012.0710c60a@ron.cerrocora.org>
References: <20170424120855.2214e7a1@hicrest1.UGATE2>
<20170424185012.0710c60a@ron.cerrocora.org>
Message-ID: <20170425010157.6a85e438@utnubu>
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:50:12 -0400, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
>On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:08:55 -0500 >Brian wrote:
>
>> I find that some websites still don't render and instead I end up
^^^^^^^^
>> with a blank preview box. Currently don't have firewall or
>> antimalware running.
>
>Claws-Mail is an email client, not a web browser...
Oops, I read "mails" instead of "websites". Indeed, some "mails" are
quasi just remote content, if so, then even Claws set up to display only
plain text works, by clicking the remote content link, since then
automagically a web browser opens.
From m8il1ists at gmail.com Tue Apr 25 02:08:38 2017
From: m8il1ists at gmail.com (Kevin Chadwick)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 01:08:38 +0100
Subject: [Users] HTML Support within Claws-mail
In-Reply-To: <20170424185012.0710c60a@ron.cerrocora.org>
References: <20170424120855.2214e7a1@hicrest1.UGATE2>
<20170424185012.0710c60a@ron.cerrocora.org>
Message-ID: <20170425010838.76a9df0a@mechanicum.chadwicks.me.uk>
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:50:12 -0400
> > I find that some websites still don't render and instead I end up
> > with a blank preview box. Currently don't have firewall or
> > antimalware running.
>
> Claws-Mail is an email client, not a web browser...
Indeed, despite being the norm (and the reason for breaches at even
Google) browsing web pages especially including javascript that are
chosen by anonymous random strangers, is asking for trouble or atleast a
slow machine.
Companies that send html are viewed dimly by me.
From pf at pfortin.com Tue Apr 25 02:39:32 2017
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:39:32 -0400
Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ?
In-Reply-To: <20170424184834.110a25fd@ron.cerrocora.org>
References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
<20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
<20170424150443.65e6f629@user-Satellite-A100>
<20170424184834.110a25fd@ron.cerrocora.org>
Message-ID: <20170424203932.2d83bac2@pfortin.com>
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:48:34 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
>Wonder how many of us here are old Eudora users...
From 1988 when Steve Dorner made it available on Macs until a few
years after 1991 when he sold it to Qualcomm, and support started to
decline.
From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Tue Apr 25 02:29:07 2017
From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter Richards)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:29:07 +1000
Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ?
In-Reply-To: <20170424032229.072a0155@mydesk.domain.cxm>
References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
<20170424032229.072a0155@mydesk.domain.cxm>
Message-ID: <20170425102907.089e7096@peter-Inspiron-3542>
Hi Steve,
Thanks for your reply, and sharing your story. Thanks to all the other
people who replied. It is very overcast here, and I dont even have
enough power to run/recharge a laptop, lol
I'll reply in more detail,once the weather improves. Am definitely
serious about making the shift from KMail, especially akonadi.
Need to know some basic akonadi commands to get into the db and extract
everything, Hopefully in the same folder heirarcy as the Kmail folder
heirarchy. My apologies if someone has already done so, in the other
messages.
Someone may already have supplied some tips there, but only 200 watts
coming in off the panels, so have to turn the laptop off. lol
Regards,
Peter
PS Steve - some of those products you mentioned remended me of the
days with Pegasus mail, and the tools we used with it. Some name like
uucp I think ??
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 03:22:29 -0400 Steve
Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:40:25 +1000, Peter
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Using Mail on Kubuntu 16.04.1 and there are LOTS of problems. Has
> > anyone on this list changed over from KMail please ? I have looked
.. snip ...
From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Tue Apr 25 04:22:19 2017
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:22:19 -0600
Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ?
In-Reply-To: <20170425102907.089e7096@peter-Inspiron-3542>
References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
<20170424032229.072a0155@mydesk.domain.cxm>
<20170425102907.089e7096@peter-Inspiron-3542>
Message-ID: <20170424202219.1beb051d@hawk.localdomain>
On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:29:07 +1000
Peter Richards wrote:
> Some name like
> uucp I think ??
uucp! First kmail, now uucp. What's next, Stonehenge? :-)
--
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
-- U.S. Const. Amendment IV
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From cjk at teamcharliesangels.com Tue Apr 25 05:00:49 2017
From: cjk at teamcharliesangels.com (Charlie Kravetz)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:00:49 -0700
Subject: [Users] Opening mailto: links with Claws Mail in KDE
In-Reply-To: <20170424220437.07173b12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
References: <20170424220437.07173b12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Message-ID: <20170424200049.3c5c00a5@whynot.keepingdreams.org>
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:04:37 +0200
Tristan Miller wrote:
>Greetings.
>
>Apropos of the recent thread on using Claws Mail instead of KMail, does
>anyone know how to get recent versions of KDE to open mailto: links in
>Claws Mail instead of KMail?
>
>This is supposed to be accomplished by launching System Settings,
>selecting Default Applications->Email Client->Use a different
>email client, and then entering "claws-mail %u" in the input box.
>
>However, this setting doesn't work. The system opens all mailto: links
>in KMail even when "Use a different email client" is selected.
>
>There is a longstanding bug report for this issue at
>. Does anyone here know
>of a workaround, short of uninstalling KMail? (Maybe I could
>symlink /usr/bin/kmail to /usr/bin/claws-mail, though that would get
>overwritten every time KMail is upgraded.)
>
>Regards,
>Tristan
>
I use a short bash program to this in Firefox. Make sure it is in the
path or it will fail.
#!/bin/bash
#
## Tell Firefox what you've done.
## Go to the Applications tab in the Preferences dialog
## When you select 'mailto' in the Content Type column on the left,
## you'll see a drop-down list in the Action column on the right.
##
## Choose Use other... and a window opens in which you can select a
## helper application (third screenshot). Navigate in this window to
## the folder where you put mailto.sh, select mailto.sh and choose Open.
##
## Now when choosing to send an email through firefox, claws-mail will
## open with the 'TO:' filled in
## -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
#
claws-mail --compose "$1"
- --
Charlie Kravetz
Linux Registered User Number 425914
[http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html]
Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com]
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From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com Tue Apr 25 09:46:40 2017
From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:46:40 +0200
Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ?
In-Reply-To: <20170425102907.089e7096@peter-Inspiron-3542>
References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
<20170424032229.072a0155@mydesk.domain.cxm>
<20170425102907.089e7096@peter-Inspiron-3542>
Message-ID: <20170425094640.5d3286ff.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Dear Peter,
On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:29:07 +1000, Peter Richards
wrote:
> Need to know some basic akonadi commands to get into the db and
> extract everything, Hopefully in the same folder heirarcy as the
> Kmail folder heirarchy. My apologies if someone has already done so,
> in the other messages.
That might not be necessary -- my KMail and KMail2 kept mail in maildir
(formerly mbox) format in ~/Mail. IIRC Akonadi was used only for
indexing (though it probably did keep an entire copy of all my mails in
a database). Perhaps setups vary, but if yours is like mine, then you
can just migrate the maildir folders/mbox files using standard tools
and forget about the Akonadi database.
Regards,
Tristan
--
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Tristan Miller
Free Software developer, ferret herder, logologist
https://logological.org/
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From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com Tue Apr 25 09:51:10 2017
From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:51:10 +0200
Subject: [Users] Opening mailto: links with Claws Mail in KDE
In-Reply-To: <20170424220437.07173b12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
References: <20170424220437.07173b12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Message-ID: <20170425095110.024abbc5.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Dear all,
Thanks for suggesting renaming or symlinking /usr/bin/kmail, but I
think this part of my original e-mail may have escaped your attention:
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:04:37 +0200, Tristan Miller
> Maybe I could symlink /usr/bin/kmail to /usr/bin/claws-mail, though
> that would get overwritten every time KMail is upgraded.
I'm running a rolling release (openSUSE Tumbleweed) so updating KMail
is not a terribly uncommon occurrence. Every time the package manager
does an upgrade, it's probably going to overwrite /usr/bin/kmail (or
worse yet, the link target) with the new version of KMail from the RPM.
Regards,
Tristan
--
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Tristan Miller
Free Software developer, ferret herder, logologist
https://logological.org/
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From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com Tue Apr 25 10:12:17 2017
From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:12:17 +0200
Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ?
In-Reply-To: <20170424140251.3f00e1e4@hawk.localdomain>
References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
<20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
<20170424140251.3f00e1e4@hawk.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20170425101217.0f6c207a.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Greetings.
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 14:02:51 -0600, Charles Curley
wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:45:07 +0200
> Tristan Miller wrote:
>
> > The only thing that I haven't been able to migrate to my
> > satisfaction is the address book.
>
> Have you tried csv2addressbook.pl? http://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php
I have. As far as I can tell, it hasn't been updated since 2008 and
doesn't work with CSV files exported by recent versions of KAddressbook:
$ ./csv2addressbook.pl --type=kmail --csv=/tmp/addressbook.csv
ERROR:
Invalid field count!
Problem with your exported CSV file
The best I was able to do was to export to LDIF from KAddressbook and
then use Claws Mail's native LDIF importer. As I mentioned before,
this imported the names and e-mail addresses, but nothing else. Now
I'm living in synchronization hell, where I am manually maintaining
both the Claws Mail and KAddressbook address books. (I am not sure I
want to manually migrate the rest of the address book data to Claws
Mail, as the interface is a lot clunkier.)
What I really want is CardDAV support, as this means I won't need to
maintain and synchronize my address book across mail clients or
machines. Instead I can just keep a single address book running on a
Radicale server on my always-on Raspberry Pi, and connect to it from any
CardDAV-capable mail client.
Regards,
Tristan
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From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com Tue Apr 25 10:27:15 2017
From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:27:15 +0200
Subject: [Users] Opening mailto: links with Claws Mail in KDE
In-Reply-To: <20170424230156.2b01d834@penny>
References: <20170424220437.07173b12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
<20170424215048.655a1a60@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
<20170424230156.2b01d834@penny>
Message-ID: <20170425102715.54adb80c.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Greetings.
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 23:01:56 +0200, Andrej Kacian
wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:50:48 +0100
> Brad Rogers wrote:
>
> > I was going to say "Works for me", but reading further I see that's
> > only the case because I don't have KMail installed (I never have).
>
> I'd like to say "Works for me, even with kmail installed". I am using
> KDE 5.28 on Debian Testing, and following command in systemsettings:
>
> claws-mail --compose "%u"
Fascinating. Does it work even when you use kde-open from the command
line, as follows?
$ kde-open mailto:test at example.com
If even this works, I wonder if Debian might have patched the bug in
their own packages, in which case it needs to be applied upstream...
Regards,
Tristan
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From slitt at troubleshooters.com Tue Apr 25 12:07:18 2017
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 06:07:18 -0400
Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ?
In-Reply-To: <20170424203932.2d83bac2@pfortin.com>
References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
<20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
<20170424150443.65e6f629@user-Satellite-A100>
<20170424184834.110a25fd@ron.cerrocora.org>
<20170424203932.2d83bac2@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20170425060718.6b285684@mydesk.domain.cxm>
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:39:32 -0400, Pierre Fortin
wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:48:34 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
>
> >Wonder how many of us here are old Eudora users...
>
> From 1988 when Steve Dorner made it available on Macs until a few
> years after 1991 when he sold it to Qualcomm, and support started to
> decline.
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
Hi,
I used Eudora when I was on Windows plus Internet: 1996-2000. I liked
it, but when I tried it again on Linux around 2010, well, let's just
say it wasn't nearly as good as I remember.
SteveT
From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com Tue Apr 25 12:31:16 2017
From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 12:31:16 +0200
Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ?
In-Reply-To: <20170425060718.6b285684@mydesk.domain.cxm>
References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
<20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
<20170424150443.65e6f629@user-Satellite-A100>
<20170424184834.110a25fd@ron.cerrocora.org>
<20170424203932.2d83bac2@pfortin.com>
<20170425060718.6b285684@mydesk.domain.cxm>
Message-ID: <20170425123116.63fdc3cc.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Dear Steve,
On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 06:07:18 -0400, Steve Litt
wrote:
> I used Eudora when I was on Windows plus Internet: 1996-2000. I liked
> it, but when I tried it again on Linux around 2010, well, let's just
> say it wasn't nearly as good as I remember.
Wine ought to be able to run all the old versions of Eudora you know
and love. ;)
I only wish there were some way of running KMail 1 on recent versions
of KDE. I've tried compiling it myself but there are too many
incompatible dependencies.
Regards,
Tristan
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From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Tue Apr 25 13:43:06 2017
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron))
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 07:43:06 -0400
Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ?
In-Reply-To: <20170425123116.63fdc3cc.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
<20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
<20170424150443.65e6f629@user-Satellite-A100>
<20170424184834.110a25fd@ron.cerrocora.org>
<20170424203932.2d83bac2@pfortin.com>
<20170425060718.6b285684@mydesk.domain.cxm>
<20170425123116.63fdc3cc.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Message-ID: <20170425074306.2511dc35@ron.cerrocora.org>
On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 12:31:16 +0200
Tristan Miller wrote:
> I only wish there were some way of running KMail 1 on recent versions of KDE.
What is the point, now that you have claws-mail ?
Cheers,
Ron.
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but the rest of the world is viewing this
as your I.Q. test.
And it is not looking good.
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From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Tue Apr 25 14:25:50 2017
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 06:25:50 -0600
Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ?
In-Reply-To: <20170425101217.0f6c207a.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
<20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
<20170424140251.3f00e1e4@hawk.localdomain>
<20170425101217.0f6c207a.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Message-ID: <20170425062550.0215850e@jhegaala.localdomain>
On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:12:17 +0200
Tristan Miller wrote:
> $ ./csv2addressbook.pl --type=kmail --csv=/tmp/addressbook.csv
> ERROR:
> Invalid field count!
> Problem with your exported CSV file
Hmmm, well, you *may* be able to fix that. It depends on how
comfortable you are doing some perl hacking, and what changes the kmail
folks made since 2008. And, just in case, whether you have a complete
backup of your .claws-mail/addrbook/ directory.
If all they did was create new columns to the right of the ones
csv2addressbook.pl knows about, you can add the new ones to the
array @kmail_fields. csv is a plain text file format, so you should be
able to copy and paste, and maybe do a bit of editing.
--
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and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
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supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com Tue Apr 25 15:37:20 2017
From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:37:20 +0200
Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ?
In-Reply-To: <20170425074306.2511dc35@ron.cerrocora.org>
References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64>
<20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
<20170424150443.65e6f629@user-Satellite-A100>
<20170424184834.110a25fd@ron.cerrocora.org>
<20170424203932.2d83bac2@pfortin.com>
<20170425060718.6b285684@mydesk.domain.cxm>
<20170425123116.63fdc3cc.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
<20170425074306.2511dc35@ron.cerrocora.org>
Message-ID: <20170425153720.5490645d.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Greetings.
On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 07:43:06 -0400, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 12:31:16 +0200
> Tristan Miller wrote:
>
> > I only wish there were some way of running KMail 1 on recent
> > versions of KDE.
>
> What is the point, now that you have claws-mail ?
Support for CalDAV, and much better support for vCard. Better
integration with the desktop environment (such as using the system
default applications to open attachments) and with other KDE-universe
applications such as KGpg, KWallet, KOrganizer, and KAddressbook.
Full-text search of e-mails. I'm sure there are a few more features
I'm forgetting.
Regards,
Tristan
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From cjk at teamcharliesangels.com Tue Apr 25 15:43:02 2017
From: cjk at teamcharliesangels.com (Charlie Kravetz)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 06:43:02 -0700
Subject: [Users] Opening mailto: links with Claws Mail in KDE
In-Reply-To: <20170425102715.54adb80c.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
References: <20170424220437.07173b12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
<20170424215048.655a1a60@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
<20170424230156.2b01d834@penny>
<20170425102715.54adb80c.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com>
Message-ID: <20170425064302.2ea33ce9@whynot.keepingdreams.org>
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On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:27:15 +0200
Tristan Miller wrote:
>Greetings.
>
>On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 23:01:56 +0200, Andrej Kacian
> wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:50:48 +0100
>> Brad Rogers wrote:
>>
>> > I was going to say "Works for me", but reading further I see that's
>> > only the case because I don't have KMail installed (I never have).
>>
>> I'd like to say "Works for me, even with kmail installed". I am using
>> KDE 5.28 on Debian Testing, and following command in systemsettings:
>>
>> claws-mail --compose "%u"
>
>Fascinating. Does it work even when you use kde-open from the command
>line, as follows?
>
>$ kde-open mailto:test at example.com
>
>If even this works, I wonder if Debian might have patched the bug in
>their own packages, in which case it needs to be applied upstream...
>
>Regards,
>Tristan
>
No, it won't work unless kde-open is using firefox.
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[http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html]
Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com]
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From ewahl at osc.edu Tue Apr 25 15:46:47 2017
From: ewahl at osc.edu (Edward Wahl)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:46:47 -0400
Subject: [Users] longer term stats?
In-Reply-To: <20170424155919.34c0a162@user-Satellite-A100>
References: <20170424155919.34c0a162@user-Satellite-A100>
Message-ID: <20170425094647.05967f62@osc.edu>
Appears to be "session" based.
How long are your sessions lasting?
Session statistics
Started: 02/08/2017(Wed) 10:42
Incoming traffic
Received messages: 10557
Outgoing traffic
New/redirected messages: 55
Replied messages: 242
Forwarded messages: 31
Total outgoing messages: 328
Ed
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 15:59:19 -0700
Dave Stevens