From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 1 12:13:33 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2017 10:13:33 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3801] Broken auto wrapping In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3801 --- Comment #2 from Ralf Mardorf --- When I wrote the text in quotes... "Hi, I forgot to mention that the line breaks happen with" ...the wrapping happened at < 50 chars, but Claws is set up to warp after at 72 chars. I also noticed that sometimes even words are wrapped. When I replied to mail today everything was ok. For testing purpose I wrote this text in a new mail and only one time I run into this issue. This is _not_ an April Fools' joke. The issue already started yesterday. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 2 03:33:27 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2017 01:33:27 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3793] Segfaults when autocompletion returns too many results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3793 --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones --- After some investigation seems this is not caused by a big number of addresses on address book, but by the master passphrase dialog being launched in the middle of the address completion ([0] and [1] are added debug_print, not in current code): ldapquery.c:694:===ldapqry_connect=== ldapserver.c:731:cert Success ldapserver.c:737:tm Success ldapserver.c:806:Got handle to LDAP host 192.168.1.5 on port 389 ldapserver.c:809:Setting version 3 passwordstore.c:180:Getting password '192.168.1.5' from block (0/LDAP) passwordstore.c:189:[0] Grabbing pointer passwordstore.c:198:[1] Decrypting password Segmentation fault The decrypting process calls password.c:master_passphrase(), which launches the dialog when the password is not in memory. This somehow makes the program crash, probably because both windows (dialog and autocompletion) are assuming they're the only one running and both try to grab input and/or focus. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 2 03:34:04 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2017 01:34:04 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3793] Segfaults when master passphrase dialog is launched in the middle of autocompletion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3793 Ricardo Mones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|Segfaults when |Segfaults when master |autocompletion returns too |passphrase dialog is |many results |launched in the middle of | |autocompletion -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 2 18:07:52 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2017 16:07:52 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3801] Broken auto wrapping In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3801 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #3 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2017-04-02 13:25:02.923787816 +0200 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f0c5783d3283961971ca4efe287c288269f93fc Merge: 0db0436 592315a Author: Colin Leroy Date: Sun Apr 2 13:25:02 2017 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=592315ae177248b7435a353a53883a0d78c7c4a3 Author: Paul Date: Sun Apr 2 12:24:20 2017 +0100 fix bug 3801, 'Broken auto wrapping' -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sun Apr 2 18:25:55 2017 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2017 18:25:55 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3801] Broken auto wrapping In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20170402182555.3eedd766@utnubu> Hi, I'm short in time, so I'll try building tomorrow, when I've got time to fix issues. At the moment it doesn't work building claws. The PKGBUILD contains prepare() { cd claws-mail/ # show timestamp in about dialog patch -Np1 < "${srcdir}/claws-timestamp.patch" git update-index --assume-unchanged src/gtk/about.c and it fails with patching file src/gtk/about.c Hunk #1 FAILED at 820. 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file src/gtk/about.c.rej Regards, Ralf From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 2 20:22:51 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2017 18:22:51 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3789] Selecting "View -> Goto -> next unread" then trying to set "n" as key shortcut opens dialog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3789 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|UI |default Product|Claws Mail |Claws Mail (Windows) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 2 20:23:08 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2017 18:23:08 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3783] Cannot add new dictionary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3783 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|UI/Compose Window/Spell |default |Checker | Product|Claws Mail |Claws Mail (Windows) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 2 20:23:35 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2017 18:23:35 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3773] Broken Unicode support in RSSyl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3773 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|Plugins/RSSyl |default Product|Claws Mail |Claws Mail (Windows) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au Mon Apr 3 05:32:42 2017 From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 13:32:42 +1000 Subject: [Users] (Solved) Not downloading from Gmail In-Reply-To: <20170329154112.68dee9e8@Devil-Bonobo> References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo> <20161208213655.684898c6@pfortin.com> <20161208191610.55f3f483@Devil-Bonobo> <20161209084610.4223be07@kujata> <20161209102245.3ead05a5@Devil-Bonobo> <20170329154112.68dee9e8@Devil-Bonobo> Message-ID: <20170403133242.6ec190c4@PPlive> On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 15:41:12 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 10:22:45 -0800 > John Jason Jordan dijo: > > >On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 08:46:10 +0000 > >Paul dijo: > > > >>On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 19:16:10 -0800 > >>John Jason Jordan wrote: > >> > >>> 2) I turned on 'allow less secure apps,' but it made no > >>> difference. > >> > >>You definitely need that google option turned on. In google's world > >>'less secure' is a misnomer for apps that don't support OAuth 2.0, > >>and Claws does not use OAuth. > > > >Success! At first it didn't work, so I turned it off. Then because > >you said I definitely need it I turned it back on, now everything > >works. > > I'm back with continuing Gmail problems. I have two Gmail accounts - > one for my university created when they moved to Gmail about three > years ago, and the other is a private account I created myself many > years ago. > > The first problem is that Gmail is constantly changing its > certificates. I always click on 'accept and save' (should I?) and then > the mail retrieval proceeds normally. I am not an expert, but you probably should look at the new certificate and if it appears believable, curse Google and click on 'accept and save'. Consider another service provider? Is there any reason that CM can not remember that multiple certificates have been accepted, or is there some reason that accepting a new one must cause the previous one to be discarded? > However, lately I have had so > much trouble connecting that I increased the timeout to three > minutes, and now I don't get the popup about the new certificate > until the end of the three minutes. Currently this is only happening > with the university account, which I access with IMAP. I say it is > only happening there because I am unable to connect to the private > account at all, unless I access it with a web browser. The private > account is POP3 and it was working with Claws Mail as recently as a > couple weeks ago. Here is what the log says when I attempt to > retrieve or send mail on the private POP3 account: > > * Account 'Gmail': Connecting to POP3 server: pop.gmail.com:995... > [14:54:11] IMAP4> 61 NOOP > [14:54:11] IMAP4< 61 OK Success > [14:55:11] IMAP4> 62 NOOP > [14:55:12] IMAP4< 62 OK Success > ** Session timed out. You may be able to recover by increasing the > timeout value in Preferences/Other/Miscellaneous. > ... > * Account 'Gmail': Connecting to SMTP server: smtp.gmail.com:587... > [15:26:11] IMAP4> 125 NOOP > [15:26:11] IMAP4< 125 OK Success > [15:27:11] IMAP4> 126 NOOP > [15:27:12] IMAP4< 126 OK Success > *** Session timed out. You may be able to recover by increasing the > timeout value in Preferences/Other/Miscellaneous. > > First issue about the above logs is why does it say 'IMAP4' when it is > trying to connect to a POP3 server? Also, even though it timed out, it > continues to add half a dozen more pairs of lines like the above for > five or six minutes more. > > I also wonder about the certificates. What is supposed to happen with > a POP3 account when there is a new certificate? What f there was a new > one and I failed to accept it? Would I continue to get popups about > it? If not that might explain why this account stopped working. > > Any other suggestions welcome! You do still have "Solved" in Subject line. Starting a new thread or modifying the Subject might help. -- testing bP From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au Mon Apr 3 07:20:13 2017 From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 15:20:13 +1000 Subject: [Users] Address book defaults to lower case In-Reply-To: <20170322143413.6b434b8c@acer-suse.lan> References: <20170322092823.75bcfc1c@blackbox.home.karmasailing.uk> <20170322103406.09e50760@anthra> <20170322101125.0000126b@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20170322115535.334233b6@hiker> <20170322143413.6b434b8c@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: <20170403152013.23b8c0b5@PPlive> On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 14:34:13 +0000 Dave Howorth wrote: > On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 11:55:35 +0100 > Andrej Kacian wrote: > > > On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 10:11:25 +0000 > > Brian Morrison wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 10:34:06 +0100 > > > wwp wrote: > > > > > > > I can't believe a server wants capitalized names in email > > > > addresses (or case sensitiveness in general). Would you show us > > > > the error thrown by this server? > > > > > > Actually folks, the local part of the address before the @ should > > > have case preserved, there are people who do use capitalized > > > addresses in this way. > > > > > > > You are both correct and incorrect (as is frequently the case with > > RFCs). > > > > RFC 2821[1] manages to contradict itself. In section 2.4, it says: > > > > [...] The local-part of a mailbox > > MUST BE treated as case sensitive. Therefore, SMTP > > implementations MUST take care to preserve the case of mailbox > > local-parts. Mailbox domains are not case sensitive. In > > particular, for some hosts the user "smith" is different from the > > user "Smith". However, exploiting the case sensitivity of mailbox > > local-parts impedes interoperability and is discouraged. > > > > Then later, in section 4.1.2: > > > > While the above definition for Local-part is relatively > > permissive, for maximum interoperability, a host that expects to > > receive mail SHOULD avoid defining mailboxes where the Local-part > > requires (or uses) the Quoted-string form or where the Local-part > > is case- sensitive. > > > > Arguably, "MUST" takes precedence over "SHOULD". No argument about it. Read section 2.3 Terminology. Background: For many years I have been annoyed by technical documents that devote large sections to defining the obvious. What happened was that a couple of centuries ago the British parliament defined many of these little terms and their interpretation in "new" laws - but this happened after the American revolution (also known as the war of independence). So, what is actually a difference of dialect was prompting me to ask, "What is wrong with these people, didn't they go to school?". Much like Boolean algebra uses OR and XOR as two similar words that do similar but different things because it is the least ugly way to do what must be done, the Standards bodies have landed on the British standard usage because they need a standard and the British one exists. > But in particular, the part in 2.4 does apply to claws, does it not? > In terms of the address book, it must treat the local part as > case-sensitive. > > Of course it can also comply with 4.1.2 in terms of mailboxes that it > defines. The two sections are not contradictory. > > Or have I misunderstood something? You are pretty much on the money. Restating the RFC; case sensitive local parts are a bad thing, don't do it, but if you encounter an email from an idiot be polite play along and respect it. As an edge case, "JohnSmith" is easier to read than "johnsmith" or "JOHNSMITH" and I would use it as a readability aid, but I would expect all capitalization variants to refer to the one user - even though it is theoretically possible that there are 2**9 different John Smiths involved. > > 1. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2821 Not respecting capitalization, in the local part, is a bug not a feature. Sorry for the English lecture, but I am working off a few decades of annoyance. > > Regards, -- testing bP From andrej at kacian.sk Mon Apr 3 08:02:36 2017 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 08:02:36 +0200 Subject: [Users] (Solved) Not downloading from Gmail In-Reply-To: <20170403133242.6ec190c4@PPlive> References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo> <20161208213655.684898c6@pfortin.com> <20161208191610.55f3f483@Devil-Bonobo> <20161209084610.4223be07@kujata> <20161209102245.3ead05a5@Devil-Bonobo> <20170329154112.68dee9e8@Devil-Bonobo> <20170403133242.6ec190c4@PPlive> Message-ID: <20170403080236.42c67571@penny> On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 13:32:42 +1000 blind Pete wrote: > Is there any reason that CM can not remember that multiple certificates > have been accepted, or is there some reason that accepting a new one > must cause the previous one to be discarded? No, no reason. You can even enable it with "unsafe_ssl_certs" hidden preference (see user manual). It's just that it's usually a bad idea to have it enabled by default, since sane providers stick to the good old "one service, one certificate" rule. Regards, -- Andrej From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 3 10:13:30 2017 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 09:13:30 +0100 Subject: [Users] Address book defaults to lower case In-Reply-To: <20170403152013.23b8c0b5@PPlive> References: <20170322092823.75bcfc1c@blackbox.home.karmasailing.uk> <20170322103406.09e50760@anthra> <20170322101125.0000126b@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20170322115535.334233b6@hiker> <20170322143413.6b434b8c@acer-suse.lan> <20170403152013.23b8c0b5@PPlive> Message-ID: <20170403091330.76a2c49d@kujata> On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 15:20:13 +1000 blind Pete wrote: > Not respecting capitalization, in the local part, is a bug not a > feature. Anyway, the problem is that the address book doesn't allow you to change case, rather than it insisting on lower case. with regards Paul From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 3 14:35:56 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 12:35:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3802] New: IMAP folders turned into Local Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3802 Bug ID: 3802 Summary: IMAP folders turned into Local Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.14.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Folders/IMAP Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: flammie at iki.fi I have a problem, where the automatic fetching of the messages does not work anymore, even though it is checked in the options and set to every N minutes. Upon inspection I noticed that my two IMAP accounts show up in configuration as Protocol: "Local". However, clicking the root folder of the accounts launches IMAP fetch as usual. I checked accountrc and it says protocol=3. Is there anything else I can do for debugging? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 3 15:50:30 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 13:50:30 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3802] IMAP folders turned into Local In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3802 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Paul --- Change the protocol number to 1 for imap accounts. The protocol numbers were changed a few version back, and the migration was automatic. However, you've used a new post-migration version, and then downgraded to a pre-migration version, the upgraded again. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From jvromans at squirrel.nl Mon Apr 3 16:55:17 2017 From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 16:55:17 +0200 Subject: [Users] Process mark and marked messages Message-ID: <20170403165517.7dd36ec7@phoenix.squirrel.nl> Hi, I have a new keyboard that has a slightly different layout, and I keep hitting the DEL key by accident. To avoid losing messages in Claws, I disabled "immediate processing of move and delete". It's a life saver. However, I noticed the following: When performing a move or delete on a message, it gets a process mark and the subject text turns grey. But when the message already has an ordinary mark (✓) its subject text does not turn grey, so there is no visual clue that is has a processing mark. Is this intentional? -- Johan From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 3 19:01:58 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 17:01:58 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3801] Broken auto wrapping In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3801 --- Comment #4 from Ralf Mardorf --- Hi, I compiled 3.15.0git17 and the issue seems to be fixed. Regards, Ralf -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Apr 4 01:01:26 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 23:01:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3793] Segfaults when master passphrase dialog is launched in the middle of autocompletion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3793 --- Comment #2 from Ricardo Mones --- An alternative abort message also caused by this: [xcb] Unknown request in queue while dequeuing [xcb] Most likely this is a multi-threaded client and XInitThreads has not been called [xcb] Aborting, sorry about that. claws-mail: ../../src/xcb_io.c:179: dequeue_pending_request: Assertion `!xcb_xlib_unknown_req_in_deq' failed. Aborted (Amazing! :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Apr 4 06:00:31 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2017 04:00:31 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3801] Broken auto wrapping In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3801 Ralf Mardorf changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|FIXED |--- --- Comment #5 from Ralf Mardorf --- Hi, this happened right now when composing a mail with 3.15.0git17: ==== There's no cpufreq/scaling_governor when running Linux running as a gues in a virtual machine. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2017-April/289831.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2017-April/289831.html ==== It might be that I made the typos, 2 times "running" and "gues", but I definitively didn't push return after "gues", "in", "a" and "virtual". First I copied the links, then I wrote the text above the links. Regards, Ralf -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From pf at pfortin.com Tue Apr 4 06:17:32 2017 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 00:17:32 -0400 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3801] Broken auto wrapping In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20170404001732.59eca85d@pfortin.com> On Tue, 04 Apr 2017 04:00:31 +0000 noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: >http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3801 > >Ralf Mardorf changed: > > What |Removed |Added >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED > Resolution|FIXED |--- > >--- Comment #5 from Ralf Mardorf --- >Hi, > >this happened right now when composing a mail with 3.15.0git17: > >==== >There's no cpufreq/scaling_governor when running Linux running as a >gues >in >a >virtual >machine. >https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2017-April/289831.html >https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2017-April/289831.html >==== > >It might be that I made the typos, 2 times "running" and "gues", but I >definitively didn't push return after "gues", "in", "a" and "virtual". >First I copied the links, then I wrote the text above the links. > >Regards, >Ralf > This issue has been around for many years. Most of it was resolved; but it still occurs very randomly. The only thing I can add is that it appears more likely when pasting confuses wrapping[1]; but that's still a wild guess. [1] like a counter not updated by length of pasted string From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Apr 4 09:02:53 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2017 07:02:53 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3801] Broken auto wrapping In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3801 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #6 from Paul --- You reported this bug about Claws 3.15.0.r9.g7c16b7e35, there was a recent change in git which caused this bug, that recent change was fixed. Any wrapping issues you now see (I can no longer reproduce any problems) are not this bug, but another. Therefore, I am closing this bug as this bug in particular is fixed. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From ricardo at mones.org Tue Apr 4 10:11:49 2017 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 10:11:49 +0200 Subject: [Users] (Solved) Not downloading from Gmail In-Reply-To: <20170403080236.42c67571@penny> References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo> <20161208213655.684898c6@pfortin.com> <20161208191610.55f3f483@Devil-Bonobo> <20161209084610.4223be07@kujata> <20161209102245.3ead05a5@Devil-Bonobo> <20170329154112.68dee9e8@Devil-Bonobo> <20170403133242.6ec190c4@PPlive> <20170403080236.42c67571@penny> Message-ID: <20170404081148.GA15821@busgosu.mones.org> On Mon, Apr 03, 2017 at 08:02:36AM +0200, Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 13:32:42 +1000 > blind Pete wrote: > > > Is there any reason that CM can not remember that multiple certificates > > have been accepted, or is there some reason that accepting a new one > > must cause the previous one to be discarded? > > No, no reason. You can even enable it with "unsafe_ssl_certs" hidden > preference (see user manual). It's just that it's usually a bad idea to > have it enabled by default, since sane providers stick to the good old > "one service, one certificate" rule. Since the domains causing most of the problems with this are usually well known, maybe a better experience without accepting all those unsafe certs could be turning that boolean preference into a list of regexp and only skipping this check to the domains matching any of the regexp in the list. That way known annoyers can be added to the list, and certs from others would still require a manual waiver. You could even have the original unsafe_ssl_certs behaviour using the *.* regexp. What do you think? -- Ricardo Mones ~ RTFM - "Read The Manual" (The 'F' is silent). Usually a very good idea. Bjarne Stroustrup -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Apr 4 10:33:35 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2017 08:33:35 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3803] New: Can't send letters larger than 10kb via IMAP without SSL/TLS Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3803 Bug ID: 3803 Summary: Can't send letters larger than 10kb via IMAP without SSL/TLS Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail (Windows) Version: 3.15.0 Hardware: PC OS: Windows 7 Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: default Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: nalimov at fintech.ru I'm using opensource mail server hmailserver and Claws Mail client connected via IMAP. In case I do not use SSL / TLS, I encounter the following bug: When I try to send a letter larger than ~10 kilobytes (no matter, with an attachment or just with a long text), Claws Mail gives me the following message: Error: Could not queue message for sending. Claws-Mail Network Log: * Account 'accountname': Connecting to IMAP server: server.name:143... [12:13:10] IMAP< * OK IMAPrev1 * IMAP connection is un-authenticated [12:13:11] IMAP> 1 CAPABILITY [12:13:11] IMAP< * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 CHILDREN IDLE QUOTA SORT ACL NAMESPACE RIGHTS=texk [12:13:11] IMAP< 1 OK CAPABILITY completed [12:13:11] IMAP> Logging accountname at domain.name to server.name using plaintext [12:13:11] IMAP< LOGIN completed [12:13:11] IMAP< Login to server.name successful [12:13:11] IMAP> 3 LIST "" "" [12:13:11] IMAP< * LIST (\Noselect) "\\" "" [12:13:11] IMAP< 3 OK LIST completed [12:13:11] IMAP> 4 SELECT Queue [12:13:11] IMAP< * 0 EXISTS [12:13:11] IMAP< * 0 RECENT [12:13:11] IMAP< * FLAGS (\Deleted \Seen \Draft \Answered \Flagged) [12:13:11] IMAP< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1489512006] current uidvalidity [12:13:11] IMAP< * OK [UIDNEXT 16] next uid [12:13:11] IMAP< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Deleted \Seen \Draft \Answered \Flagged)] limited [12:13:11] IMAP< 4 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed [12:13:11] IMAP- [fetching UIDs...] [12:13:11] IMAP> 5 UID FETCH 1:* (UID) [12:13:11] IMAP< 5 OK UID completed [12:13:11] IMAP> 6 APPEND Queue (\Seen) {29003} [12:13:11] IMAP< + Ready for literal data [12:13:11] IMAP> [data - 8166 bytes] [12:13:11] IMAP> [data - 8190 bytes] [12:13:11] IMAP> [data - 8190 bytes] ** IMAP error on server.name: stream error ** IMAP connection broken hMailServer log: "DEBUG" 3060 "2017-04-04 12:21:45.733" "The read operation failed. Bytes transferred: 0 Remote IP: ip_address, Session: 252, Code: 2, Message: End of file" "DEBUG" 3060 "2017-04-04 12:21:45.733" "Ending session 252" When I try to save a message as a draft, Claws Mail gives me the following message: Error: could not save draft. Network Log: [12:23:03] IMAP> 6 APPEND Drafts (\Seen) {28938} [12:23:03] IMAP< + Ready for literal data [12:23:03] IMAP> [data - 8179 bytes] [12:23:03] IMAP> [data - 8190 bytes] [12:23:03] IMAP> [data - 8190 bytes] ** IMAP error on server.name: stream error ** IMAP connection broken BUT! If I use SSL/TLS connection, the message is sent or saved as a draft without errors. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From silver.bullet at zoho.com Tue Apr 4 11:30:36 2017 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 11:30:36 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3801] Broken auto wrapping In-Reply-To: <20170404001732.59eca85d@pfortin.com> References: <20170404001732.59eca85d@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20170404113036.73b6e3b7@utnubu> On Tue, 4 Apr 2017 00:17:32 -0400, Pierre Fortin wrote: >This issue has been around for many years. Most of it was resolved; but >it still occurs very randomly. The only thing I can add is that it >appears more likely when pasting confuses wrapping[1]; but that's >still a wild guess. > >[1] like a counter not updated by length of pasted string Hi, I'm using Claws since 30 Oct 2014. I can't remember that this happened for >= 3.11.0 up to <= 3.14.1-19-ge7206c0 and maybe it was just good luck, but even 3.15.0-1-g9782061 was ok. If that should have happened before, than at least that seldom, that I didn't care about it. I can't remember that suddenly a line break happened after each word. I hope you are right and it just happened by random for 3.15.0.r17.g2736853ff and will not happen that often as it did for 3.15.0.r9.g7c16b7e35. Regards, Ralf From kardan at riseup.net Wed Apr 5 10:33:45 2017 From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 10:33:45 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws-mail tries to connect in offline-mode Message-ID: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net> Hi, how can I stop claws-mail from connecting to mail providers? Although activated offline-mode it always tries to connect, when I switch a folder. I want to have control over outgoing connections. Also I would like to disable the dialog "Switch to online mode for synchronisation?" Practically I want to search in archived mails without updating the archive. For the moment rgrep is more useful for that. Should I open a bug report? Best, kardan From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Apr 5 10:41:41 2017 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 09:41:41 +0100 Subject: [Users] Claws-mail tries to connect in offline-mode In-Reply-To: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net> References: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net> Message-ID: <20170405094141.7fb0bd43@kujata> On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 10:33:45 +0200 kardan wrote: > how can I stop claws-mail from connecting to mail providers? > Although activated offline-mode it always tries to connect, when I > switch a folder. I want to have control over outgoing connections. > Also I would like to disable the dialog "Switch to online mode for > synchronisation?" BY 'always tries to connect' do you mean that the 'switch to online mode' dialogue is shown? If that's the case, then it asks you whether you want to rather than just trying to go online. Just choose the 'No' button in that dialogue and you're done. with regards Paul From kardan at riseup.net Wed Apr 5 11:04:17 2017 From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 11:04:17 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws-mail tries to connect in offline-mode In-Reply-To: <20170405094141.7fb0bd43@kujata> References: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net> <20170405094141.7fb0bd43@kujata> Message-ID: <20170405110417.5bdcd4d9@riseup.net> On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 09:41:41 +0100 Paul wrote: > On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 10:33:45 +0200 > kardan wrote: > > > how can I stop claws-mail from connecting to mail providers? > > Although activated offline-mode it always tries to connect, when I > > switch a folder. I want to have control over outgoing connections. > > Also I would like to disable the dialog "Switch to online mode for > > synchronisation?" > > BY 'always tries to connect' do you mean that the 'switch to online > mode' dialogue is shown? No, it actually tries to connect. > If that's the case, then it asks you whether > you want to rather than just trying to go online. Just choose the > 'No' button in that dialogue and you're done. I don't want to be asked everytime. > with regards > > Paul Thanks! kardan -- Ich bin über XMPP und OTR-Verschlüsselung in Echtzeit erreichbar: kardan at riseup.net / kardan at jabber.ccc.de Bitte Emails an mich verschlüsseln: https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/de https://help.riseup.net/de/security/message-security/openpgp Mein Schlüssel: pub rsa2048/0xF6B2F5D14EF9EC81 2016-05-20 [SC] [expires: 2017-05-20] Key fingerprint = 1280 7C9D 2D9C 4ADB 0A78 37FC F6B2 F5D1 4EF9 EC81 uid [ultimate] kardan sub rsa2048/0xAB2F3A9EC09A1693 2016-05-20 [E] Herunterladen: https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xF6B2F5D14EF9EC81 Tails ist ein auf Online-Sicherheit und Anonymität optimiertes USB-Live-System: https://capulcu.blackblogs.org/neue-texte/bandi From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Apr 5 11:27:29 2017 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 10:27:29 +0100 Subject: [Users] Claws-mail tries to connect in offline-mode In-Reply-To: <20170405110417.5bdcd4d9@riseup.net> References: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net> <20170405094141.7fb0bd43@kujata> <20170405110417.5bdcd4d9@riseup.net> Message-ID: <20170405102729.1f3cf5a8@kujata> On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 11:04:17 +0200 kardan wrote: > No, it actually tries to connect. Why do you think it tries to connect? > > If that's the case, then it asks you whether > > you want to rather than just trying to go online. Just choose the > > 'No' button in that dialogue and you're done. > > I don't want to be asked everytime. You are talking about the 'Folder synchronisation' dialogue, which offers [Cancel] and [Synchronise] buttons. So your request is only that you don't want to be asked every time? with regards Paul From kardan at riseup.net Wed Apr 5 11:43:09 2017 From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 11:43:09 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws-mail tries to connect in offline-mode In-Reply-To: <20170405102729.1f3cf5a8@kujata> References: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net> <20170405094141.7fb0bd43@kujata> <20170405110417.5bdcd4d9@riseup.net> <20170405102729.1f3cf5a8@kujata> Message-ID: <20170405114309.30301645@riseup.net> Hi Paul, On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 10:27:29 +0100 Paul wrote: > On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 11:04:17 +0200 > kardan wrote: > > > No, it actually tries to connect. My wording was not corret. It connects and tries to login. > Why do you think it tries to connect? This is what happens: 1. activate offline mode. The dialogue appears "Do you want to synchronise folders now?" - 'No', I want to enable offline mode, dammit. 2. select a folder. the network log reads: * Account 'ng': Connecting to IMAP server: .net:993... [11:35:35] IMAP< * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE IDLE AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=LOGIN] Dovecot ready. * IMAP connection is un-authenticated [11:35:36] IMAP> 1 CAPABILITY [11:35:36] IMAP< * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE IDLE AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=LOGIN [11:35:36] IMAP< 1 OK Pre-login capabilities listed, post-login capabilities have more. [11:35:36] IMAP> Logging kardan@ to .net using PLAIN [11:35:39] IMAP< Authentication failed. ** IMAP error on .net: LOGIN error [11:35:39] IMAP< Error logging in to .net [11:35:39] IMAP> Logging kardan@ to .net using LOGIN [11:35:47] IMAP< Authentication failed. ** IMAP error on .net: LOGIN error [11:35:47] IMAP< Error logging in to .net [11:35:47] IMAP> Logging kardan@ to .net using plaintext [11:35:54] IMAP< Authentication failed. ** IMAP error on .net: LOGIN error [11:35:54] IMAP< Error logging in to .net *** Connection to .net failed: login refused. [11:35:56] IMAP> 5 LOGOUT [11:35:57] IMAP< * BYE Logging out [11:35:57] IMAP< 5 OK Logout completed. It tries three times to login, shows a password dialogue and gives up. > > I don't want to be asked everytime. > > You are talking about the 'Folder synchronisation' dialogue, which > offers [Cancel] and [Synchronise] buttons. > > So your request is only that you don't want to be asked every time? Yes. (Whatever 'only' is supposed to mean here.) Thanks! kardan From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Apr 5 11:49:56 2017 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 10:49:56 +0100 Subject: [Users] Claws-mail tries to connect in offline-mode In-Reply-To: <20170405114309.30301645@riseup.net> References: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net> <20170405094141.7fb0bd43@kujata> <20170405110417.5bdcd4d9@riseup.net> <20170405102729.1f3cf5a8@kujata> <20170405114309.30301645@riseup.net> Message-ID: <20170405104956.24b1fd22@kujata> On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 11:43:09 +0200 kardan wrote: > My wording was not corret. It connects and tries to login. It doesn't do that here. Offline is offline. What version of claws-mail are you using? > Yes. (Whatever 'only' is supposed to mean here.) 'Only' in this context, means that the /only/ thing I see in your message is a request to not be asked every time you go offline. with regards Paul From kardan at riseup.net Wed Apr 5 15:02:23 2017 From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 15:02:23 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws-mail tries to connect in offline-mode In-Reply-To: <20170405104956.24b1fd22@kujata> References: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net> <20170405094141.7fb0bd43@kujata> <20170405110417.5bdcd4d9@riseup.net> <20170405102729.1f3cf5a8@kujata> <20170405114309.30301645@riseup.net> <20170405104956.24b1fd22@kujata> Message-ID: <20170405150223.39d18f00@riseup.net> On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 10:49:56 +0100 Paul wrote: > On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 11:43:09 +0200 > kardan wrote: > > > My wording was not corret. It connects and tries to login. > > It doesn't do that here. The network log showed that it tried to login. Why do you think it is not true? > Offline is offline. What version of > claws-mail are you using? 3.14.1 From ricardo at mones.org Wed Apr 5 15:21:13 2017 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 15:21:13 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws-mail tries to connect in offline-mode In-Reply-To: <20170405150223.39d18f00@riseup.net> References: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net> <20170405094141.7fb0bd43@kujata> <20170405110417.5bdcd4d9@riseup.net> <20170405102729.1f3cf5a8@kujata> <20170405114309.30301645@riseup.net> <20170405104956.24b1fd22@kujata> <20170405150223.39d18f00@riseup.net> Message-ID: <20170405132113.GB15821@busgosu.mones.org> On Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 03:02:23PM +0200, kardan wrote: > On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 10:49:56 +0100 > Paul wrote: > > > On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 11:43:09 +0200 > > kardan wrote: > > > > > My wording was not corret. It connects and tries to login. > > > > It doesn't do that here. > > The network log showed that it tried to login. Why do you think it is > not true? Nobody said it wasn't true. And only Paul knows what Paul thinks ;) That problem you describe it's very unlikely to happen unless something very weird is happening in your Claws Mail or operating system. > > Offline is offline. What version of > > claws-mail are you using? > > 3.14.1 Built from source or packaged? Which system is yours? regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ The world will end in 5 minutes. Please log out. Unknown -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From kardan at riseup.net Wed Apr 5 21:17:52 2017 From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 21:17:52 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws-mail tries to connect in offline-mode In-Reply-To: <20170405132113.GB15821@busgosu.mones.org> References: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net> <20170405094141.7fb0bd43@kujata> <20170405110417.5bdcd4d9@riseup.net> <20170405102729.1f3cf5a8@kujata> <20170405114309.30301645@riseup.net> <20170405104956.24b1fd22@kujata> <20170405150223.39d18f00@riseup.net> <20170405132113.GB15821@busgosu.mones.org> Message-ID: <20170405211752.7bffc99d@riseup.net> On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 15:21:13 +0200 Ricardo Mones wrote: > That problem you describe it's very unlikely to happen unless > something very weird is happening in your Claws Mail or operating > system. Maybe this is a configuration issue? > > > Offline is offline. What version of > > > claws-mail are you using? > > > > 3.14.1 > > Built from source or packaged? Which system is yours? It's the packaged version for Debian stretch. I can try with the latest version from git later tonight. Best, Kardan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 6 01:55:49 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2017 23:55:49 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3804] New: Trying to delete folders that don't exist: fail Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3804 Bug ID: 3804 Summary: Trying to delete folders that don't exist: fail Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.13.2 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Folders/IMAP Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: claws-mail at ch.pkts.ca I use CM and Outlook (Web Access). I deleted a folder on the server using Outlook, and then tried to delete the same folder in CM, but get the error "Can't remove the folder XXXX". The funny thing is, the network log says this: [16:53:11] IMAP4< * STATUS Tasks (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 1 UIDVALIDITY 70 UNSEEN 0) [16:53:11] IMAP4< 15 OK STATUS completed. [16:53:16] IMAP4> 16 UNSUBSCRIBE "Impersonal emails/XXX" [16:53:16] IMAP4< 16 OK UNSUBSCRIBE completed. [16:53:16] IMAP4> 17 DELETE "Impersonal emails/XXX" [16:53:16] IMAP4< 17 NO The requested item could not be found. ** IMAP error on ballard.amazon.com: DELETE error [16:53:16] IMAP4> 18 DELETE "Impersonal emails/XXX/" [16:53:16] IMAP4< 18 NO The requested item could not be found. ** IMAP error on ballard.amazon.com: DELETE error ** can't delete mailbox [16:53:16] IMAP4> 19 SELECT "Impersonal emails/XXX" [16:53:16] IMAP4< 19 NO "Impersonal emails/XXX" doesn't exist. ** IMAP error on ballard.amazon.com: SELECT error ** can't select folder: Impersonal emails/XXX In short, I can't delete the folder because it doesn't exist. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 6 01:58:47 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2017 23:58:47 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3804] Trying to delete folders that don't exist: fail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3804 --- Comment #1 from Pd --- Apparently, if I unsubscribe from the folder first, then I can delete it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 6 10:40:11 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2017 08:40:11 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3804] Better handling of deleting a non-existent IMAP folder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3804 Andrej Kacian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|Trying to delete folders |Better handling of deleting |that don't exist: fail |a non-existent IMAP folder Severity|normal |enhancement --- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian --- Function imap_remove_folder_real() could be improved: If the DELETE command gets a NO response, check whether the folder exists on server side (STATUS, LIST or LSUB command, probably the first one to make it simple), and if not, just continue with cleanup on client side as if DELETE succeeded. (In reply to comment #1) > Apparently, if I unsubscribe from the folder first, then I can delete it. Could please you post the protocol log from this action too? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From nalimov at fintech.ru Thu Apr 6 11:54:39 2017 From: nalimov at fintech.ru (=?koi8-r?B?7sHMyc3P1yD0yc3V0iD3zMHEyc3J0s/Xyd4=?=) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 09:54:39 +0000 Subject: [Users] Strange error when sending Message-ID: <944E6BD247E2DE4B94CA8071A458B33679F5E1ED@E2K7.fintech.ru> Hello! I ran into an incomprehensible mistake, made a bugreport (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3803), but I did not get any reaction. Perhaps, such a mistake occurs at someone else. If you have met with a similar problem and have been able to solve it - please write to me about this. Thank you in advance! Timur -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lists-claws at listmail.innovate.net Thu Apr 6 13:49:45 2017 From: lists-claws at listmail.innovate.net (Richard) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2017 11:49:45 +0000 Subject: [Users] Strange error when sending In-Reply-To: <944E6BD247E2DE4B94CA8071A458B33679F5E1ED@E2K7.fintech.ru> References: <944E6BD247E2DE4B94CA8071A458B33679F5E1ED@E2K7.fintech.ru> Message-ID: <31AB2CCE7580A9CCEB8C285C@ritz.innovate.net> ------------ Original Message ------------ > Date: Thursday, April 06, 2017 09:54:39 +0000 > From: Налимов Тимур Владимирович > > Hello! > I ran into an incomprehensible mistake, made a bugreport > (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id= > 3803), but I did not get any reaction. Perhaps, such a mistake > occurs at someone else. If you have met with a similar problem and > have been able to solve it - please write to me about this. > > Thank you in advance! > > Timur > > I'm going to guess that the server you are connecting to doesn't intend to support unencrypted sessions, but isn't configured correctly so doesn't reject them outright. E.g., it appears to let you send your credentials unencrypted, but then doesn't start up the data connection. In short, rather than properly turning off IMAP/143 and forcing people to IMAPS/993, they left 143 open in the worst way possible (accepting unencrypted credentials). If CM is configured to save the draft to the server and the server isn't configured properly (so CM can't make a successful connection), there isn't a lot that CM can do. So, this looks like a server, not CM, issue/error. [and perhaps a service provider to move away from.] The solution would seem to be to configure your CM instance to use IMAPS/993, as you indicate that that works. From andrej at kacian.sk Thu Apr 6 14:19:12 2017 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 14:19:12 +0200 Subject: [Users] Strange error when sending In-Reply-To: <31AB2CCE7580A9CCEB8C285C@ritz.innovate.net> References: <944E6BD247E2DE4B94CA8071A458B33679F5E1ED@E2K7.fintech.ru> <31AB2CCE7580A9CCEB8C285C@ritz.innovate.net> Message-ID: <20170406141912.55e386b1@hiker> On Thu, 06 Apr 2017 11:49:45 +0000 Richard wrote: > > > ------------ Original Message ------------ > > Date: Thursday, April 06, 2017 09:54:39 +0000 > > From: Налимов Тимур Владимирович > > > > > Hello! > > I ran into an incomprehensible mistake, made a bugreport > > (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id= > > 3803), but I did not get any reaction. Perhaps, such a mistake > > occurs at someone else. If you have met with a similar problem and > > have been able to solve it - please write to me about this. > > > > Thank you in advance! > > > > Timur > > > > > > I'm going to guess that the server you are connecting to doesn't > intend to support unencrypted sessions, but isn't configured > correctly so doesn't reject them outright. E.g., it appears to let > you send your credentials unencrypted, but then doesn't start up the > data connection. In short, rather than properly turning off IMAP/143 > and forcing people to IMAPS/993, they left 143 open in the worst way > possible (accepting unencrypted credentials). > > If CM is configured to save the draft to the server and the server > isn't configured properly (so CM can't make a successful connection), > there isn't a lot that CM can do. So, this looks like a server, not > CM, issue/error. [and perhaps a service provider to move away from.] > > The solution would seem to be to configure your CM instance to use > IMAPS/993, as you indicate that that works. No, there really is a bug in Claws Mail. I was able to reproduce it, and will be trying to fix it. Unfortunately, it looks like a result of a memory corruption somewhere else in the code - and this kind of bugs is hard to track down. Regards, -- Andrej From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 6 21:38:41 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2017 19:38:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3804] Better handling of deleting a non-existent IMAP folder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3804 --- Comment #3 from Pd --- Apologies, but today I created a folder in CM, deleted it with OWA, and then successfully deleted it in CM. I'm pretty sure I could reproduce the error by deleting one of my other long-lived folders (created at the same time and in the same way as the problem folders), but they've got lots of mail in them and I've got them set up with tons of filtering rules. I really don't want to delete them. :-/ In short, I'm not sure how to reproduce the problem now. Is there an easy way to show every property about a folder on the imap server AND in CM? Then I could create a new folder and tweak it until it exactly matches an existing folder except for the name. Hopefully that should reproduce the problem. Thanks. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 7 01:34:35 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2017 23:34:35 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2716] bigger triangular buttons in folder tree In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2716 Ricardo Mones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- URL|http://http://bugs.debian.o |https://bugs.debian.org/683 |rg/683402 |402 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From olaf at aepfle.de Fri Apr 7 07:59:00 2017 From: olaf at aepfle.de (Olaf Hering) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 07:59:00 +0200 Subject: [Users] failed SMTP auth does not ask for new password Message-ID: <20170407075541.6ce0ee0f.olaf@aepfle.de> While trying to send an email I entered the wrong SMTP password. In the logs I see the 501 response from the server. When I try to send the message again CM will reuse the existing password, instead of asking for a new one. Is there any code in CM which would ask for a new password? If so, perhaps the "failed auth" response is not parsed properly. I noticed my provider responds with 535, as shown below, and CM recognizes that a different password is needed. Olaf ... * Konto: 'u at h': Verbinde mit SMTP-Server: host:25... [07:53:04] SMTP< 220 host GroupWise Internet Agent 14.2.1 Copyright 1993-2016 Novell, Inc., a Micro Focus Company. All rights reserved. Ready [07:53:04] ESMTP> EHLO sender [07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-host [07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-AUTH LOGIN [07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME [07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-SIZE [07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-DSN [07:53:04] ESMTP< 250 STARTTLS [07:53:04] ESMTP> STARTTLS [07:53:04] ESMTP< 220 Ready to start TLS [07:53:04] ESMTP> EHLO sender [07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-host [07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-AUTH LOGIN [07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME [07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-SIZE [07:53:04] ESMTP< 250 DSN [07:53:04] ESMTP> AUTH LOGIN [07:53:04] ESMTP< 334 whatever [07:53:04] ESMTP> [USERID] [07:53:04] ESMTP< 334 whatever [07:53:04] ESMTP> [PASSWORD] [07:53:08] ESMTP< 501 Authentication failed ** Fehler bei der SMTP-Sitzung *** Fehler beim Senden der Nachricht: 501 Authentication failed [07:53:08] IMAP- [fetching flags...] [07:53:08] IMAP> 3594 UID FETCH 1:* (FLAGS UID) .... ... * Konto: 'olaf at aepfle.de': Verbinde mit SMTP-Server: smtp.strato.de:25... [07:55:53] SMTP< 220 smtp.strato.de ESMTP RZmta 40.4 ready (mo31) [07:55:53] ESMTP> EHLO sender [07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-smtp.strato.de greets 62.216.207.153 [07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES [07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-PIPELINING [07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME [07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-DELIVERBY [07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-SIZE 104857600 [07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-AUTH DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN [07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-STARTTLS [07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-BURL imap [07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-CHUNKING [07:55:54] ESMTP< 250 HELP [07:55:54] ESMTP> STARTTLS [07:55:54] ESMTP< 220 Ready to start TLS [07:55:54] ESMTP> EHLO sender [07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-smtp.strato.de greets 62.216.207.153 [07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES [07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-PIPELINING [07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME [07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-DELIVERBY [07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-SIZE 104857600 [07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-AUTH DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN [07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-BURL imap [07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-CHUNKING [07:55:54] ESMTP< 250 HELP [07:55:54] ESMTP> AUTH CRAM-MD5 [07:55:54] ESMTP< 334 whatever [07:55:54] ESMTP< [Decoded: whatever] [07:55:54] ESMTP> [Encoded: whatever] [07:55:54] ESMTP> whatever [07:55:58] ESMTP< 535 5.7.8 Authentication failed: wrong user/password ** Fehler beim Authentifizieren *** Authentifizierung schlug fehl: 535 5.7.8 Authentication failed: wrong user/password [07:55:58] IMAP> 2101 SELECT Queue ... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 195 bytes Desc: Digitale Signatur von OpenPGP URL: From mir at miras.org Fri Apr 7 08:06:50 2017 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2017 08:06:50 +0200 Subject: [Users] failed SMTP auth does not ask for new password In-Reply-To: <20170407075541.6ce0ee0f.olaf@aepfle.de> References: <20170407075541.6ce0ee0f.olaf@aepfle.de> Message-ID: Edit account dialog is where you change password. On April 7, 2017 7:59:00 AM GMT+02:00, Olaf Hering wrote: >While trying to send an email I entered the wrong SMTP password. In the >logs I see the 501 response from the server. When I try to send the >message again CM will reuse the existing password, instead of asking >for a new one. Is there any code in CM which would ask for a new >password? If so, perhaps the "failed auth" response is not parsed >properly. > >I noticed my provider responds with 535, as shown below, and CM >recognizes that a different password is needed. > >Olaf > >... >* Konto: 'u at h': Verbinde mit SMTP-Server: host:25... >[07:53:04] SMTP< 220 host GroupWise Internet Agent 14.2.1 Copyright >1993-2016 Novell, Inc., a Micro Focus Company. All rights reserved. >Ready >[07:53:04] ESMTP> EHLO sender >[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-host >[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-AUTH LOGIN >[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME >[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-SIZE >[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-DSN >[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250 STARTTLS >[07:53:04] ESMTP> STARTTLS >[07:53:04] ESMTP< 220 Ready to start TLS >[07:53:04] ESMTP> EHLO sender >[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-host >[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-AUTH LOGIN >[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME >[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250-SIZE >[07:53:04] ESMTP< 250 DSN >[07:53:04] ESMTP> AUTH LOGIN >[07:53:04] ESMTP< 334 whatever >[07:53:04] ESMTP> [USERID] >[07:53:04] ESMTP< 334 whatever >[07:53:04] ESMTP> [PASSWORD] >[07:53:08] ESMTP< 501 Authentication failed >** Fehler bei der SMTP-Sitzung >*** Fehler beim Senden der Nachricht: >501 Authentication failed >[07:53:08] IMAP- [fetching flags...] >[07:53:08] IMAP> 3594 UID FETCH 1:* (FLAGS UID) >.... > >... >* Konto: 'olaf at aepfle.de': Verbinde mit SMTP-Server: >smtp.strato.de:25... >[07:55:53] SMTP< 220 smtp.strato.de ESMTP RZmta 40.4 ready (mo31) >[07:55:53] ESMTP> EHLO sender >[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-smtp.strato.de greets 62.216.207.153 >[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES >[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-PIPELINING >[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME >[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-DELIVERBY >[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-SIZE 104857600 >[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-AUTH DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN >[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-STARTTLS >[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-BURL imap >[07:55:53] ESMTP< 250-CHUNKING >[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250 HELP >[07:55:54] ESMTP> STARTTLS >[07:55:54] ESMTP< 220 Ready to start TLS >[07:55:54] ESMTP> EHLO sender >[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-smtp.strato.de greets 62.216.207.153 >[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES >[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-PIPELINING >[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME >[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-DELIVERBY >[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-SIZE 104857600 >[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-AUTH DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN >[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-BURL imap >[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250-CHUNKING >[07:55:54] ESMTP< 250 HELP >[07:55:54] ESMTP> AUTH CRAM-MD5 >[07:55:54] ESMTP< 334 whatever >[07:55:54] ESMTP< [Decoded: whatever] >[07:55:54] ESMTP> [Encoded: whatever] >[07:55:54] ESMTP> whatever >[07:55:58] ESMTP< 535 5.7.8 Authentication failed: wrong user/password >** Fehler beim Authentifizieren >*** Authentifizierung schlug fehl: >535 5.7.8 Authentication failed: wrong user/password >[07:55:58] IMAP> 2101 SELECT Queue >... -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ---- This mail was virus scanned and spam checked before delivery. This mail is also DKIM signed. See header dkim-signature. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From olaf at aepfle.de Fri Apr 7 08:09:57 2017 From: olaf at aepfle.de (Olaf Hering) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 08:09:57 +0200 Subject: [Users] failed SMTP auth does not ask for new password In-Reply-To: References: <20170407075541.6ce0ee0f.olaf@aepfle.de> Message-ID: <20170407080957.5997b2fb.olaf@aepfle.de> Am Fri, 07 Apr 2017 08:06:50 +0200 schrieb Michael Rasmussen : > Edit account dialog is where you change password. No. Only when the passwords are stored in the settings. But as a workaround I may use that now to get the message out. Thanks for pointing that out. Olaf -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 195 bytes Desc: Digitale Signatur von OpenPGP URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 7 09:22:20 2017 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 08:22:20 +0100 Subject: [Users] failed SMTP auth does not ask for new password In-Reply-To: <20170407080957.5997b2fb.olaf@aepfle.de> References: <20170407075541.6ce0ee0f.olaf@aepfle.de> <20170407080957.5997b2fb.olaf@aepfle.de> Message-ID: <20170407082220.5b723949@kujata> On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 08:09:57 +0200 Olaf Hering wrote: > No. Only when the passwords are stored in the settings. > But as a workaround I may use that now to get the message out. > Thanks for pointing that out. In the main menu: /Tools/Forget all session passwords with regards Paul From kieakl at ihug.co.nz Fri Apr 7 11:01:40 2017 From: kieakl at ihug.co.nz (kangaroo) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 21:01:40 +1200 Subject: [Users] Attachments do not show in sent folder list Message-ID: <20170407210140.0000110d@ihug.co.nz> I don't know if this is a bug or a preference. I have looked thru the preference settings and did not see anything specific for attachments in sent emails. If I send an email with an attachment and then go to the sent folder list, the attachment icon does not show next to the sent email. I have to select the sent email to get the attachment icon to appear. Once it appears then it stays visible and does not disappear if I swap folders, stop / start program etc. On occasions I want to scan thru the email list looking for emails with attachments, because of the above this does not work because the attachment icon may not show. I would expect the attachement icon to show if I have that column in the headers and the email has an attachment, I should not have to select the email to get the icon to appear. Using Win 10, version 3.14.1 32 bit From edwardp at linuxmail.org Sat Apr 8 01:23:02 2017 From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 19:23:02 -0400 Subject: [Users] Gmail Secure Certificates Message-ID: <20170407192302.371b0e3b@downstairs> For the past several days, when I have tried to receive and send e-mail via Gmail, Claws Mail displays a window that the secure certificates for imap.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com have changed and asks what to do. This is starting to become rather annoying. I fail to see how their secure certificates can change on a daily basis, unless Google is having 'issues'. Is this a problem with Claws, or is this actually on Google's end? I would prefer not to file a bug report if it's not an issue directly with Claws. Thanks. :) Ed From andrej at kacian.sk Sat Apr 8 02:02:22 2017 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2017 02:02:22 +0200 Subject: [Users] Gmail Secure Certificates In-Reply-To: <20170407192302.371b0e3b@downstairs> References: <20170407192302.371b0e3b@downstairs> Message-ID: <20170408020222.7eba362f@penny> On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 19:23:02 -0400 wrote: > For the past several days, when I have tried to receive and send e-mail > via Gmail, Claws Mail displays a window that the secure certificates > for imap.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com have changed and asks what to do. > > This is starting to become rather annoying. I fail to see how their > secure certificates can change on a daily basis, unless Google is > having 'issues'. > > Is this a problem with Claws, or is this actually on Google's end? I > would prefer not to file a bug report if it's not an issue directly with > Claws. Since gmail has the service loadbalanced across several actual servers, their certificates are sometimes out of sync. You can enable 'Automatically accept valid SSL/TLS certificates' option in account preferences, which should help if your system has up to date CA certificates bundle, and recognizes gmail's certificates as valid. Regards, -- Andrej From edwardp at linuxmail.org Sat Apr 8 02:20:18 2017 From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 20:20:18 -0400 Subject: [Users] Gmail Secure Certificates In-Reply-To: <20170408020222.7eba362f@penny> References: <20170407192302.371b0e3b@downstairs> <20170408020222.7eba362f@penny> Message-ID: <20170407202018.28b74d62@downstairs> On Sat, 8 Apr 2017 02:02:22 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 19:23:02 -0400 > wrote: > > > For the past several days, when I have tried to receive and send > > e-mail via Gmail, Claws Mail displays a window that the secure > > certificates for imap.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com have changed and > > asks what to do. > > > > This is starting to become rather annoying. I fail to see how their > > secure certificates can change on a daily basis, unless Google is > > having 'issues'. > > > > Is this a problem with Claws, or is this actually on Google's end? I > > would prefer not to file a bug report if it's not an issue directly > > with Claws. > > Since gmail has the service loadbalanced across several actual > servers, their certificates are sometimes out of sync. > > You can enable 'Automatically accept valid SSL/TLS certificates' > option in account preferences, which should help if your system has > up to date CA certificates bundle, and recognizes gmail's > certificates as valid. > > Regards, Fedora has an updated ca-certificates package for Fedora 25, that is in testing, currently. I will wait until it's released before making the above change. Thanks for the reply. From myetto1 at nycap.rr.com Sat Apr 8 04:39:44 2017 From: myetto1 at nycap.rr.com (Michael A. Yetto) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 22:39:44 -0400 Subject: [Users] Gmail Secure Certificates In-Reply-To: <20170407202018.28b74d62@downstairs> References: <20170407192302.371b0e3b@downstairs> <20170408020222.7eba362f@penny> <20170407202018.28b74d62@downstairs> Message-ID: <20170407223944.4e411274@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 20:20:18 -0400 writes, and having writ moves on: >On Sat, 8 Apr 2017 02:02:22 +0200 >Andrej Kacian wrote: >> Since gmail has the service loadbalanced across several actual >> servers, their certificates are sometimes out of sync. >> >> You can enable 'Automatically accept valid SSL/TLS certificates' >> option in account preferences, which should help if your system has >> up to date CA certificates bundle, and recognizes gmail's >> certificates as valid. >> >> Regards, > >Fedora has an updated ca-certificates package for Fedora 25, that is in >testing, currently. I will wait until it's released before making the >above change. I made the above change several months ago and It solved the problem immediately. Mike Yetto -- "I believe that we are a story-driven species and that we understand how things are put together, in the context of narrative. It's a shame that science hasn't been taught that way, in a long time. It's usually the fact completely devoid of any human experience or any idea of how the scientist came to that conclusion." - Ann Druyan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 8 22:55:16 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2017 20:55:16 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2262] Frequent occurrences of "Could not queue message for sending" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2262 Andrej Kacian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |nalimov at fintech.ru --- Comment #13 from Andrej Kacian --- *** Bug 3803 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 8 22:58:41 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2017 20:58:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2262] Frequent occurrences of "Could not queue message for sending" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2262 Andrej Kacian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #14 from Andrej Kacian --- Fixed in commits http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws-win32-installer.git;a=commitdiff;h=a9eee6 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws-win32-installer.git;a=commitdiff;h=859187 The patch is somewhat heavy-handed, but it should suffice. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 9 04:38:31 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2017 02:38:31 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3805] New: getting claws mail set-up Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3805 Bug ID: 3805 Summary: getting claws mail set-up Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.15.0 Hardware: Other OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: major Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/Python Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: rkl1east at gmail.com most likely its me not a bug, i set up an email using claws mail on a raspberry pi3. everything went fine, except i cannot send out or receive mail. when i attempt to send i get "An error happened during SMTP session. Use "Send queued messages" from the main window to retry." any assistance would be great thanks. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 9 11:18:50 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2017 09:18:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3805] getting claws mail set-up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3805 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Paul --- This is a bug tracker, not a help forum. Please use either the users' mailing list or #claws IRC channel for support: http://www.claws-mail.org/MLs.php -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 9 20:17:50 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2017 18:17:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3806] New: HTML emails hang Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3806 Bug ID: 3806 Summary: HTML emails hang Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail (Windows) Version: 3.15.0 Hardware: PC OS: Windows 7 Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: default Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: wazz at ellijay.com Installed the latest 64bit Claws, and trying to open HTML emails causes Claws to hang. Reverted back to the earlier 3.14.1 64bit, and all is well. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 10 07:41:41 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 05:41:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3806] HTML emails hang In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3806 --- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian --- Does this happen on all HTML e-mails, or just some of them? What if you install latest 3.15.0-1, but 32-bit version (uninstall the 64-bit version first)? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From jaccode at virginmedia.com Mon Apr 10 12:20:14 2017 From: jaccode at virginmedia.com (Jack) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 12:20:14 +0200 Subject: [Users] Autoconfig does not support port 465 in SRV record Message-ID: Hello, Virgin Media uses SSL/TLS on port 465 for email submission via SMTP: $ dig _submission._tcp.virginmedia.com -t SRV +short 0 1 465 smtp.virginmedia.com. https://help.virginmedia.com/system/templates/selfservice/vm/help/customer/locale/en-GB/portal/200300000001000/article/HELP-2203/Email-Settings-for-all-Virgin-Media-domains Claws Mail supports SRV records for autoconfiguration. Unfortunately, it always assumes that STARTTLS (=explicit SSL/TLS) is used for SMTP. But in this case I need implicit SSL/TLS on port 465. I would like to suggest that the autoconfig wizard in Claws Mail tests if STARTTLS works for SMTP. If it doesn't, it should try implicit SSL/TLS. If this is not possible to implement, I suggest that implicit SSL/TLS is always used for port 465. It is very unlikely that someone would be running STARTTLS on port 465. Ports 25 and 587 are commonly used for STARTTLS. -- Jack -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 10 21:23:03 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 19:23:03 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3807] New: Decrypting AES encrypted passwords (for backups), configure password store Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3807 Bug ID: 3807 Summary: Decrypting AES encrypted passwords (for backups), configure password store Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.14.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: minor Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/Privacy/PGP Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: max_musterman256 at web.de "The 3.14.0 release implements a completely new password storage backend." Though I did not find a description in the manual for it (searching for password). Origin is a problem about a forgotten password and I have GPG installed/compiled according to the manual. In ~/.claws-mail/passwordstorerc the password should be saved though mine seems to be recv {AES-256-CBC,50000}LONG_AES_KEY... I guess this is GPG dependent, since a GPG key is used with this account. How does the decription work? Can I do this manually as well? I cannot configure the email accounts to not encrypt the passwords. Is this behavior intendend? A notion/hint would be great. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 10 22:11:44 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:11:44 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3807] Decrypting AES encrypted passwords (for backups), configure password store In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3807 Andrej Kacian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian --- Hi, the encryption scheme is described at http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=blob;f=doc/src/password_encryption.txt If you have not set a master passphrase, you should be able to decrypt the saved password using this information, since it is encrypted using a static key, selected at compile time (defaults to "passkey0", I don't think anyone ever changes this). I am closing this, as this is a bug tracker, not a discussion or help forum. Please use a mailing list (http://claws-mail.org/MLs.php), or come visit us on IRC channel #claws at FreeNode instead. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au Wed Apr 12 16:31:33 2017 From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 00:31:33 +1000 Subject: [Users] Address book defaults to lower case In-Reply-To: <20170403091330.76a2c49d@kujata> References: <20170322092823.75bcfc1c@blackbox.home.karmasailing.uk> <20170322103406.09e50760@anthra> <20170322101125.0000126b@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20170322115535.334233b6@hiker> <20170322143413.6b434b8c@acer-suse.lan> <20170403152013.23b8c0b5@PPlive> <20170403091330.76a2c49d@kujata> Message-ID: <20170413003133.6b1a39c9@PPlive> On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 09:13:30 +0100 Paul wrote: > On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 15:20:13 +1000 > blind Pete wrote: > > > Not respecting capitalization, in the local part, is a bug not a > > feature. > > Anyway, the problem is that the address book doesn't allow you to > change case, rather than it insisting on lower case. > > with regards > > Paul So, CM *is* respecting case on the local part, and following standards? Or does somebody want to start with, say, johnsmith at example.com, edit it to JohnSmith at example.com and expect replies to go to each and every capitalization variation of jOhNsMith at example.com? That would be 2 to the 9 emails in this example. It might annoy the postmaster at the other end. Or do you want a CM only label like "Doctor who?" displayed to the user while the original address is untouched? -- testing bP From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au Wed Apr 12 18:02:14 2017 From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 02:02:14 +1000 Subject: [Users] (Solved) Not downloading from Gmail In-Reply-To: <20170404081148.GA15821@busgosu.mones.org> References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo> <20161208213655.684898c6@pfortin.com> <20161208191610.55f3f483@Devil-Bonobo> <20161209084610.4223be07@kujata> <20161209102245.3ead05a5@Devil-Bonobo> <20170329154112.68dee9e8@Devil-Bonobo> <20170403133242.6ec190c4@PPlive> <20170403080236.42c67571@penny> <20170404081148.GA15821@busgosu.mones.org> Message-ID: <20170413020214.053c1b0c@PPlive> On Tue, 4 Apr 2017 10:11:49 +0200 Ricardo Mones wrote: > On Mon, Apr 03, 2017 at 08:02:36AM +0200, Andrej Kacian wrote: > > On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 13:32:42 +1000 > > blind Pete wrote: > > > > > Is there any reason that CM can not remember that multiple > > > certificates have been accepted, or is there some reason that > > > accepting a new one must cause the previous one to be discarded? > > > > No, no reason. You can even enable it with "unsafe_ssl_certs" hidden > > preference (see user manual). It's just that it's usually a bad > > idea to have it enabled by default, since sane providers stick to > > the good old "one service, one certificate" rule. Thanks, but you answered a question that I did not mean to ask (and already knew the answer to). Rather than lowering the standards for all certificates, when caught in a gmail load balancing unpredictability is there any way to mark both of (hopefully) only two gmail certificates as accepted? > Since the domains causing most of the problems with this are usually > well known, maybe a better experience without accepting all those > unsafe certs could be turning that boolean preference into a list of > regexp and only skipping this check to the domains matching any of > the regexp in the list. > > That way known annoyers can be added to the list, and certs from > others would still require a manual waiver. You could even have the > original unsafe_ssl_certs behaviour using the *.* regexp. > > What do you think? Lowering the standards for one provider would be less bad than lowering the standards for all certificates. -- testing bP From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Apr 12 18:22:04 2017 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 17:22:04 +0100 Subject: [Users] (Solved) Not downloading from Gmail In-Reply-To: <20170413020214.053c1b0c@PPlive> References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo> <20161208213655.684898c6@pfortin.com> <20161208191610.55f3f483@Devil-Bonobo> <20161209084610.4223be07@kujata> <20161209102245.3ead05a5@Devil-Bonobo> <20170329154112.68dee9e8@Devil-Bonobo> <20170403133242.6ec190c4@PPlive> <20170403080236.42c67571@penny> <20170404081148.GA15821@busgosu.mones.org> <20170413020214.053c1b0c@PPlive> Message-ID: <20170412172204.63c784c7@kujata> Just use the option 'Automatically accept valid SSL/TLS certificates' in the account prefs. regards Paul From johnxj at gmx.com Wed Apr 12 20:42:47 2017 From: johnxj at gmx.com (John Jason Jordan) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 11:42:47 -0700 Subject: [Users] (Solved) Not downloading from Gmail In-Reply-To: <20170412172204.63c784c7@kujata> References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo> <20161208213655.684898c6@pfortin.com> <20161208191610.55f3f483@Devil-Bonobo> <20161209084610.4223be07@kujata> <20161209102245.3ead05a5@Devil-Bonobo> <20170329154112.68dee9e8@Devil-Bonobo> <20170403133242.6ec190c4@PPlive> <20170403080236.42c67571@penny> <20170404081148.GA15821@busgosu.mones.org> <20170413020214.053c1b0c@PPlive> <20170412172204.63c784c7@kujata> Message-ID: <20170412114247.31928b1b@Devil-Bonobo> On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 17:22:04 +0100 Paul dijo: >Just use the option 'Automatically accept valid SSL/TLS certificates' >in the account prefs. I have always had that checked for my Gmail account, but I still get the pop-ups when there is a new one and I have to accept it manually to continue. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Apr 12 20:47:19 2017 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 19:47:19 +0100 Subject: [Users] (Solved) Not downloading from Gmail In-Reply-To: <20170412114247.31928b1b@Devil-Bonobo> References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo> <20161208213655.684898c6@pfortin.com> <20161208191610.55f3f483@Devil-Bonobo> <20161209084610.4223be07@kujata> <20161209102245.3ead05a5@Devil-Bonobo> <20170329154112.68dee9e8@Devil-Bonobo> <20170403133242.6ec190c4@PPlive> <20170403080236.42c67571@penny> <20170404081148.GA15821@busgosu.mones.org> <20170413020214.053c1b0c@PPlive> <20170412172204.63c784c7@kujata> <20170412114247.31928b1b@Devil-Bonobo> Message-ID: <20170412194719.7233f043@kujata> On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 11:42:47 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: > I have always had that checked for my Gmail account, but I still get > the pop-ups when there is a new one and I have to accept it > manually to continue. you probably have to update your system's ca-certificates so that 'Google Internet Authority G2' is included. with regards Paul From andrej at kacian.sk Thu Apr 13 09:16:04 2017 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 09:16:04 +0200 Subject: [Users] Autoconfig does not support port 465 in SRV record In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20170413091604.012ba963@penny> On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 12:20:14 +0200 Jack wrote: > Hello, > > Virgin Media uses SSL/TLS on port 465 for email submission via SMTP: > > $ dig _submission._tcp.virginmedia.com -t SRV +short > 0 1 465 smtp.virginmedia.com. > > https://help.virginmedia.com/system/templates/selfservice/vm/help/customer/locale/en-GB/portal/200300000001000/article/HELP-2203/Email-Settings-for-all-Virgin-Media-domains > > Claws Mail supports SRV records for autoconfiguration. Unfortunately, it always assumes that STARTTLS (=explicit SSL/TLS) is used for SMTP. But in this case I need implicit SSL/TLS on port 465. > > I would like to suggest that the autoconfig wizard in Claws Mail tests if STARTTLS works for SMTP. If it doesn't, it should try implicit SSL/TLS. > > If this is not possible to implement, I suggest that implicit SSL/TLS is always used for port 465. It is very unlikely that someone would be running STARTTLS on port 465. Ports 25 and 587 are commonly used for STARTTLS. > Fixed in git, even though technically this is incorrect. See the relevant commit message for details: http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=dbec2c Regards, -- Andrej From jaccode at virginmedia.com Thu Apr 13 10:35:57 2017 From: jaccode at virginmedia.com (Jack) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 10:35:57 +0200 Subject: [Users] Autoconfig does not support port 465 in SRV record In-Reply-To: <20170413091604.012ba963@penny> References: <20170413091604.012ba963@penny> Message-ID: <96C4ACE4-C934-4F3D-8587-A873515B79B1@virginmedia.com> Hello Andrej, Thanks for your support! I agree that port 465 is no longer an official standard for SMTP. But there are ISPs that still use the port. Some background info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMTPS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunistic_TLS#Weaknesses_and_mitigations https://www.fastmail.com/help/technical/ssltlsstarttls.html --- Jack -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 13 16:47:50 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 14:47:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3808] New: vCalendar plugin does not load due to undefined symbol icaltime_from_timet Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3808 Bug ID: 3808 Summary: vCalendar plugin does not load due to undefined symbol icaltime_from_timet Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.15.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: blocker Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/vCalendar Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: aprsa09 at gmail.com Ubuntu 16.04, installing from sources. Installed libical-master or libical-2.0.0 from github, same result. Configuring and building went without a problem; ldd on vcalendar.so shows: libical.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/libical.so.2 (0x00007f8272df6000) When trying to load the plugin, the following is reported: The following error occurred while loading vcalendar.so: /usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/vcalendar.so: undefined symbol: icaltime_from_timet -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From dave at howorth.org.uk Thu Apr 13 22:36:42 2017 From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 21:36:42 +0100 Subject: [Users] (Solved) Not downloading from Gmail In-Reply-To: <20170413020214.053c1b0c@PPlive> References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo> <20161208213655.684898c6@pfortin.com> <20161208191610.55f3f483@Devil-Bonobo> <20161209084610.4223be07@kujata> <20161209102245.3ead05a5@Devil-Bonobo> <20170329154112.68dee9e8@Devil-Bonobo> <20170403133242.6ec190c4@PPlive> <20170403080236.42c67571@penny> <20170404081148.GA15821@busgosu.mones.org> <20170413020214.053c1b0c@PPlive> Message-ID: <20170413213642.5be2fbda@acer-suse.lan> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 02:02:14 +1000 blind Pete wrote: > Rather than lowering the standards for all certificates, when caught > in a gmail load balancing unpredictability is there any way to mark > both of (hopefully) only two gmail certificates as accepted? The regexp solution would allow you to do that if you wished wouldn't it? From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 14 01:39:25 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 23:39:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3808] vCalendar plugin does not load due to undefined symbol icaltime_from_timet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3808 --- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian --- You're probably using libical 3.0.0, where function icaltime_from_timet was deprecated and removed in that release. Try 2.0.0, it works over here on Debian Testing. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 14 01:55:25 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 23:55:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3808] vCalendar plugin does not load due to undefined symbol icaltime_from_timet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3808 --- Comment #2 from rezso --- Just a note: icaltime_from_timet is deprecated also in libical 2.0: https://libical.github.io/libical/apidocs/icaltime_8h.html The best way is replace it with icaltime_from_timet_with_zone. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 14 02:08:52 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 00:08:52 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3808] vCalendar plugin does not load due to undefined symbol icaltime_from_timet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3808 --- Comment #3 from aprsa --- Nope, this is libical-2.0. I did try the master git branch as well, same results. I could try a pre-2.0 version, but the claws release notes said 2.0+ was required. A patch suggested by rezso might indeed be best? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 14 12:54:56 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 10:54:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3808] vCalendar plugin does not load due to undefined symbol icaltime_from_timet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3808 Michael Rasmussen changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #4 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2017-04-14 12:48:03.363492320 +0200 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=489dce2d36ead88de5424ae267ebbc9871f8bbd1 Merge: 700a1bb 73d4891 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Fri Apr 14 12:48:02 2017 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=73d48910780a64de0deec8fe59e87318618f049a Author: Michael Rasmussen Date: Fri Apr 14 12:47:41 2017 +0200 Fix bug #3808: Replace icaltime_from_timet with icaltime_from_timet_with_zone -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From c.buhtz at posteo.jp Fri Apr 14 14:36:37 2017 From: c.buhtz at posteo.jp (c.buhtz at posteo.jp) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 14:36:37 +0200 Subject: [Users] Feature: save sent mails in answered mails folder Message-ID: <3w4HGJ5tx1zyRn@submission01.posteo.de> In my working environment it would be very useful if mails wouldn't be stored in the "sent" folder but in the same folder where the original mail I reply to is stored. But it would be important that this option would be related to a specific folder. So I can turn it on for some but not all folders. Some of my folders are representing person (e.g. "TheBoss"). And I view the mails there threaded. So it would be great if my own replys would appear in that threads. Currently I have filters for that. But I have to create such filters for each folder extra. A simple checkbox in the folder setting would be great. What do you think? From brad at fineby.me.uk Fri Apr 14 14:44:45 2017 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 13:44:45 +0100 Subject: [Users] Feature: save sent mails in answered mails folder In-Reply-To: <3w4HGJ5tx1zyRn@submission01.posteo.de> References: <3w4HGJ5tx1zyRn@submission01.posteo.de> Message-ID: <20170414134445.72a1fcc5@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 14:36:37 +0200 wrote: Hello c.buhtz at posteo.jp, >Currently I have filters for that. But I have to create such filters >for each folder extra. A simple checkbox in the folder setting would be >great. It already exists. See: Folder context menu, Properties/Compose. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Every single one of us Devil Inside - INXS -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 488 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From rezso at rezso.net Fri Apr 14 14:46:24 2017 From: rezso at rezso.net (=?UTF-8?B?UMOhZGVyIFJlenPFkQ==?=) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 14:46:24 +0200 Subject: [Users] Feature: save sent mails in answered mails folder In-Reply-To: <3w4HGJ5tx1zyRn@submission01.posteo.de> References: <3w4HGJ5tx1zyRn@submission01.posteo.de> Message-ID: <20170414144624.2abb9b93@papi.home> Fri, 14 Apr 2017 14:36:37 +0200 -n írta: >In my working environment it would be very useful if mails wouldn't be >stored in the "sent" folder but in the same folder where the original >mail I reply to is stored. > >But it would be important that this option would be related to a >specific folder. So I can turn it on for some but not all folders. > >Some of my folders are representing person (e.g. "TheBoss"). And I view >the mails there threaded. So it would be great if my own replys would >appear in that threads. See the folder preferences: right click on the folder name, Preferences, Compose. -- R. From suevb01 at gmail.com Fri Apr 14 19:59:27 2017 From: suevb01 at gmail.com (sue butler) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 18:59:27 +0100 Subject: [Users] Query - adding people to address book using filters Message-ID: <1d03cb71-ec8a-ab27-6894-112164d5c647@gmail.com> When I click on a message and 'Add sender to address book" the senders name is added as well as the email address, which is great. But, when I use a filter rule to do it, it adds their email address as their name, which is not so great! (Especially when their email address does not easily relate to their name) Is there a way to get the filter rule to add their name? Many thanks, Sue From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 15 15:36:04 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 13:36:04 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] New: Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 Bug ID: 3809 Summary: Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.13.2 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/Privacy/PGP Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: nosp at abwesend.de Created attachment 1741 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1741&action=edit Output of "gdb claws-mail" Loading any of these plugins pgpcore.so pgpinline.so pgpmime.so via Configuration->Plugins...->Load... causes Claws Mail to freeze. I attached output of gdb. OS: Xubuntu 16.04.2 Installed with: sudo apt-get install claws-mail claws-mail-plugins claws-mail-extra-plugins claws-mail-pgpinline claws-mail-pgpmime claws-mail-fancy-plugin claws-mail-smime-plugin claws-mail-dbg -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 15 16:16:21 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 14:16:21 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 Andrej Kacian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1741|application/octet-stream |text/plain mime type| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From andrej at kacian.sk Sat Apr 15 19:44:39 2017 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 19:44:39 +0200 Subject: [Users] Query - adding people to address book using filters In-Reply-To: <1d03cb71-ec8a-ab27-6894-112164d5c647@gmail.com> References: <1d03cb71-ec8a-ab27-6894-112164d5c647@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20170415194439.4f1519b9@penny> On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 18:59:27 +0100 sue butler wrote: > When I click on a message and 'Add sender to address book" the senders > name is added as well as the email address, which is great. > > But, when I use a filter rule to do it, it adds their email address as > their name, which is not so great! (Especially when their email address > does not easily relate to their name) > > Is there a way to get the filter rule to add their name? Hi, it seems this was a bug, which I just fixed. The filtering action will add the name correctly in the next release. Thanks for noticing and reporting this! Regards, -- Andrej From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 15 20:12:21 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:12:21 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 --- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian --- What happens when Claws Mail is frozen? Is one (or perhaps more) CPU core at 100%? Can you please, instead of "externally killing" the process, let it run, hit CTRL+c in the console where gdb is running, and get a backtrace ('thread apply all bt full' command)? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 15 20:46:55 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:46:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3810] New: SSL certificate manager: add Signature Status and Expiration Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3810 Bug ID: 3810 Summary: SSL certificate manager: add Signature Status and Expiration Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: All Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: Other Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: pf at pfortin.com SSL certificate manager only list Server and Port. It would be easier to manage certs (way fewer mouse actions) if the list also included Signature Status and Expiration. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 15 20:56:00 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:56:00 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3810] SSL certificate manager: add Signature Status and Expiration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3810 --- Comment #1 from Pierre Fortin --- ...and allowed multiple selections. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 15 21:03:44 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 19:03:44 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 --- Comment #2 from nosp at abwesend.de --- Created attachment 1742 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1742&action=edit gdb backtrace Output of: gdb claws-mail run --debug thread apply all bt full -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 15 21:10:05 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 19:10:05 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 --- Comment #3 from nosp at abwesend.de --- CPUs are idle during Claws Mail is frozen. Memory consumption does not change and is low. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 15 23:40:33 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 21:40:33 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 --- Comment #4 from Andrej Kacian --- I am stumped. The freeze obviously happens while Claws Mail is trying to figure out whether you have some secret keys in your keyring - both PGP and S/MIME - but I have no idea why it would just stop. Do these commands finish OK and do they list something out of the ordinary? gpg --list-secret-keys gpgsm --list-secret-keys -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 00:51:52 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 22:51:52 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 --- Comment #5 from Michael Rasmussen --- It could also be related to some malfunctioning gpg agent. To me it looks as the problem I once had where the agent failed to call the pineentry program and therefore communicated with stdout. If I recall I wrote the proper solution on this bug tracker somewhere. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 00:53:40 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 22:53:40 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 --- Comment #6 from nosp at abwesend.de --- I ran both commands: gpg --list-secret-keys Lists the key I imported the other day. gpgsm --list-secret-keys No output at all. I deleted the key and tried again to load the plugins. Same behavior as far as I understand. See attachment gdb_backtrace_no_keys. I created another key and tried again, same result. See attachment gdb_backtrace_new_key. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 00:54:25 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 22:54:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 --- Comment #7 from nosp at abwesend.de --- Created attachment 1743 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1743&action=edit backtrace after deleting existing keys -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 00:54:56 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 22:54:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 --- Comment #8 from nosp at abwesend.de --- Created attachment 1744 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1744&action=edit backtrace after creating new key -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 01:08:40 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 23:08:40 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 --- Comment #9 from Michael Rasmussen --- What output does the following give: dpkg --get-selections |grep pinentry env |grep -i tty -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 09:41:42 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 07:41:42 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 --- Comment #10 from nosp at abwesend.de --- :~$ dpkg --get-selections |grep pinentry pinentry-gnome3 install pinentry-gtk2 install :~$ env |grep -i tty :~$ (not output for env |grep -i tty) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 11:18:31 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 09:18:31 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 --- Comment #11 from Michael Rasmussen --- Try adding this to ~/.bashrc # Set GPG TTY export GPG_TTY=/dev/pts/1 Sometimes below is also necessary but try above first: #$(tty) # Refresh gpg-agent tty in case user switches into an X session gpg-connect-agent updatestartuptty /bye >/dev/null -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 11:49:54 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 09:49:54 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 --- Comment #12 from nosp at abwesend.de --- Created attachment 1745 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1745&action=edit Output of gdb claws-mail after modifying .bashrc Added export GPG_TTY=/dev/pts/1 to .bashrc. gdb claws-mail run --debug Loading plugins worked as expected. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 11:52:23 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 09:52:23 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 --- Comment #13 from nosp at abwesend.de --- After adding export GPG_TTY=/dev/pts/1 to .bashrc, the plugin loaded successfully. Thanks! Anything else I can do to help fix/avoid this for others? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 11:54:16 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 09:54:16 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #14 from Paul --- It's a Xubuntu 16.04.2 bug, gpg-agent not getting set up correctly. You can report it to them. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 11:57:14 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 09:57:14 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 --- Comment #15 from nosp at abwesend.de --- Will do, thanks again. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 12:17:52 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 10:17:52 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 --- Comment #16 from Andrej Kacian --- (In reply to comment #13) > After adding export GPG_TTY=/dev/pts/1 to .bashrc, the plugin loaded > successfully. > Thanks! > > Anything else I can do to help fix/avoid this for others? What if your TTY is different next time you log in? I don't think it always has to be /dev/pts/1. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 12:21:26 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 10:21:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 --- Comment #17 from Paul --- (In reply to comment #16) > (In reply to comment #13) > > After adding export GPG_TTY=/dev/pts/1 to .bashrc, the plugin loaded > > successfully. > > Thanks! > > > > Anything else I can do to help fix/avoid this for others? > > What if your TTY is different next time you log in? I don't think it always > has to be /dev/pts/1. Yes, what you want is this: export GPG_TTY=`tty` Re: https://www.gnupg.org/documentation/manuals/gnupg/Common-Problems.html -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 16 12:48:52 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 10:48:52 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3809] Loading gpg related plugin causes freezing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 --- Comment #18 from Michael Rasmussen --- I have done some testing. It seems to be of no importance what value the GPG_TTY environment variable has as long as it is set. Maybe of importance for the curses based pinentry but seems irrelevant to the gtk or gnome based pinentry so it could be a bug in gpg-agent? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From suevb01 at gmail.com Sun Apr 16 19:28:30 2017 From: suevb01 at gmail.com (sue butler) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 18:28:30 +0100 Subject: [Users] Running Clawsmail from boot Message-ID: <07a13638-1203-875d-d5b0-6f3c054da16c@gmail.com> Hi My aim is to run Claws from boot, and despite trying various methods I just cant do it, I wonder whether anyone has any suggestions.... I am relatively new to the Raspberry Pi, Linux and Claws, but have managed to work most things out. I now have Clawsmail with the Python Plugin running on a Raspberry Pi. (Noobs setup) It runs just fine, and I am really pleased with it. There are no issues at all when I start it from the desktop screen. I have a Python plugin script that runs when email arrives from specific accounts . This too works fine. My problems arose when trying to start Clawsmail from boot... Initially I thought the lack of success was my inability to use crontab correctly, so downloaded the very simple Gnome Scheduler. In this I have tried 3 different approaches: Running the python script mentioned below Using a shell script Just putting "claws-mail" At the moment I am trying to run these on an hourly schedule, rather than on reboot, but none appear to work. (Other scripts, not related to Claws, work fine.) I have a simple Python3 script which is designed to check the internet connection, and then start Claws. When it is run from the command line it opens Claws, but with output: /** (claws-mail:4201): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GtkCMUnit' as enum when in fact it is of type 'gint'/ in this case, the prompt line reappears once Claws is loaded and the warning has been printed out. Claws appears to work normally. When I start Claws from the command line using/$ claws-mail/ I get a similar response, but the command line hangs until I use ^C although Claws starts up and runs OK. If I receive mail that triggers the Python Plugin before hitting ^C then I get another line of output: /sys:1: Warning: /build/glib2.0-tTvduh/glib2.0-2.42.1/./gobject/gsignal.c:2540: handler '4014' of instance '0x603300' is not blocked / Sometimes I am then unable to shut claws down normally, after these messages, and even "killing" it takes a long time. BUT if I close the command line window after /$ claws-mail/ then Claws closes too. I suspect that this is the reason that my attempts to run any programs to start Claws from boot result in no action at all - .maybe Claws opens, but then immediately shuts down? Any advice gratefully received, Thank you, Sue -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Sun Apr 16 19:49:46 2017 From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 11:49:46 -0600 Subject: [Users] Running Clawsmail from boot In-Reply-To: <07a13638-1203-875d-d5b0-6f3c054da16c@gmail.com> References: <07a13638-1203-875d-d5b0-6f3c054da16c@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20170416114946.34507b62@hawk.localdomain> On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 18:28:30 +0100 sue butler wrote: > My aim is to run Claws from boot, and despite trying various methods > I just cant do it, I wonder whether anyone has any suggestions.... Do you really want to run it from boot? If you do run it at boot, you may be running it as root, not what you want. Linux reserves root for system work, which may be ticklish. Also, root has full access to the system, and can therefor do a lot of damage. Much better to run user applications (such as claws-mail) as your user. You may prefer to set it to launch on login, not on boot. How you do that depends on your window and session managers. > When I start Claws from the command line using/$ claws-mail/ I get a > similar response, but the command line hangs until I use ^C although > Claws starts up and runs OK. Right. Running just $ claws-mail runs CM in the foreground, and blocks the shell. To run it in the background and get back the use of the shell, run instead $ claws-mail & (Note the ampersand.) > I am relatively new to the Raspberry Pi, Linux and Claws, but have > managed to work most things out. :-) You were bitten by one of the many and subtle differences between Windows and Linux/Unix. -- The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. -- U.S. Const. Amendment IV Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB From lists at lazygranch.com Sun Apr 16 19:56:57 2017 From: lists at lazygranch.com (lists at lazygranch.com) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 10:56:57 -0700 Subject: [Users] Running Clawsmail from boot In-Reply-To: <07a13638-1203-875d-d5b0-6f3c054da16c@gmail.com> References: <07a13638-1203-875d-d5b0-6f3c054da16c@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20170416175657.5726295.9175.26363@lazygranch.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david.burleigh at gmx.com Sun Apr 16 20:02:03 2017 From: david.burleigh at gmx.com (David Burleigh) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 14:02:03 -0400 Subject: [Users] 3.15.0 Package for Ubuntu? Message-ID: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz> Does anyone know of a Ubuntu package for version 3.15.0? -- David Burleigh 828-475-5126 From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sun Apr 16 20:26:57 2017 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 20:26:57 +0200 Subject: [Users] 3.15.0 Package for Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz> References: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz> Message-ID: <1492367217.811.2.camel@zoho.com> On Sun, 2017-04-16 at 14:02 -0400, David Burleigh wrote: > Does anyone know of a Ubuntu package for version 3.15.0? Hi, you could build the package on your own. It shouldn't require to build any dependencies, it at least isn't necessary when running Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS. I removed all claws-mail related packages from official Ubuntu repositories, but kept all dependencies and also installed all make dependencies, IOW you need to install required dev packages. I'm usually building the latest commit from git, but you could checkout 3.15.0 from git as described below. IIRC you also could use a tag instead of the commit a2ef596. git clone git://git.claws-mail.org/claws.git cd claws/ git checkout a2ef596 ./autogen.sh ./configure --build=$(uname -m)-ubuntu-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --disable-jpilot --disable-maintainer-mode --disable-manual --disable-static --enable-bogofilter-plugin --enable-crash-dialog --enable-enchant --enable-gnutls --enable-ldap --enable-pgpmime-plugin --enable-silent-rules --enable-spamassassin-plugin make sudo checkinstall Checkinstall offers a menu, I only edit it a little bit: 0 - Maintainer: [ Foo ] 1 - Summary: [ A GTK+ based e-mail client - git checkout ] 2 - Name: [ claws-mail-git ] 3 - Version: [ 3.15.0 ] 4 - Release: [ 1 ] 5 - License: [ GPL3 ] 6 - Group: [ checkinstall ] 7 - Architecture: [ amd64 ] 8 - Source location: [ claws ] 9 - Alternate source location: [ ] 10 - Requires: [ ] 11 - Provides: [ claws-mail ] 12 - Conflicts: [ ] 13 - Replaces: [ ] Regards, Ralf From david.burleigh at gmx.com Sun Apr 16 20:32:57 2017 From: david.burleigh at gmx.com (David Burleigh) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 14:32:57 -0400 Subject: [Users] 3.15.0 Package for Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <1492367217.811.2.camel@zoho.com> References: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz> <1492367217.811.2.camel@zoho.com> Message-ID: <20170416143242.2e8fb477@dz> Ok, thank you, I'll give that a try. On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 20:26:57 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2017-04-16 at 14:02 -0400, David Burleigh wrote: > [...] > > Hi, > > you could build the package on your own. It shouldn't require to build > any dependencies, it at least isn't necessary when running Ubuntu > 16.04.2 LTS. > > I removed all claws-mail related packages from official Ubuntu > repositories, but kept all dependencies and also installed all make > dependencies, IOW you need to install required dev packages. > > I'm usually building the latest commit from git, but you could > checkout 3.15.0 from git as described below. IIRC you also could use > a tag instead of the commit a2ef596. > > > git clone git://git.claws-mail.org/claws.git > > cd claws/ > > git checkout a2ef596 > > ./autogen.sh > > ./configure --build=$(uname -m)-ubuntu-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr > --disable-jpilot --disable-maintainer-mode --disable-manual > --disable-static --enable-bogofilter-plugin --enable-crash-dialog > --enable-enchant --enable-gnutls --enable-ldap > --enable-pgpmime-plugin --enable-silent-rules > --enable-spamassassin-plugin > > make > > sudo checkinstall > > > Checkinstall offers a menu, I only edit it a little bit: > > 0 - Maintainer: [ Foo ] > 1 - Summary: [ A GTK+ based e-mail client - git checkout ] > 2 - Name: [ claws-mail-git ] > 3 - Version: [ 3.15.0 ] > 4 - Release: [ 1 ] > 5 - License: [ GPL3 ] > 6 - Group: [ checkinstall ] > 7 - Architecture: [ amd64 ] > 8 - Source location: [ claws ] > 9 - Alternate source location: [ ] > 10 - Requires: [ ] > 11 - Provides: [ claws-mail ] > 12 - Conflicts: [ ] > 13 - Replaces: [ ] > > Regards, > Ralf > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users From andrej at kacian.sk Sun Apr 16 20:34:09 2017 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 20:34:09 +0200 Subject: [Users] Running Clawsmail from boot In-Reply-To: <07a13638-1203-875d-d5b0-6f3c054da16c@gmail.com> References: <07a13638-1203-875d-d5b0-6f3c054da16c@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20170416203409.0f62dda4@penny> On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 18:28:30 +0100 sue butler wrote: > Initially I thought the lack of success was my inability to use crontab > correctly, so downloaded the very simple Gnome Scheduler. In this I > have tried 3 different approaches: > Running the python script mentioned below > Using a shell script > Just putting "claws-mail" The correct approach is to configure: 1. Whatever login manager you use to auto-login a user of your choice. 2. Whatever window manager or desktop environment you use to start claws-mail upon login for that particular user's session. Regards, -- Andrej From kardan at riseup.net Sun Apr 16 22:13:03 2017 From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 22:13:03 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws-mail tries to connect in offline-mode In-Reply-To: <20170405104956.24b1fd22@kujata> References: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net> <20170405094141.7fb0bd43@kujata> <20170405110417.5bdcd4d9@riseup.net> <20170405102729.1f3cf5a8@kujata> <20170405114309.30301645@riseup.net> <20170405104956.24b1fd22@kujata> Message-ID: <20170416212621.212ca352@riseup.net> Hi Paul, I watched the beast some more time. On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 10:49:56 +0100 Paul wrote: > It doesn't do that here. Offline is offline. It appears that Claws has its rounds to finish and does not directly react to my nervous clicks to go offline. Just like a train you sent away some time ago will not directly jump to the depot when you call it back. Would it be possible to implement 'beaming' to kill existing connections? Talking of connections: From time to time claws dies from broken connections. Not regularly, maybe a memory corruption due to unfreed variables. Best and thanks, kardan (I am not on the list) Claws Mail version 3.14.1 runtime GTK+ 2.24.31 / GLib 2.50.3 buildtime GTK+ 2.24.31 / GLib 2.50.3 Compiled-in features: compface Enchant GnuTLS 3.5.8-5 IPv6 iconv JPilot LDAP libetpan 1.6 libSM NetworkManager ** (claws-mail:4593): WARNING **: [17:22:05] Couldn't login to IMAP server mail.riseup.net. *** Error in `claws-mail': free(): corrupted unsorted chunks: 0x0abd6200 *** ======= Backtrace: ========= /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x6737a)[0xb623437a] /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x6dfb7)[0xb623afb7] /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x6e776)[0xb623b776] /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_free+0x20)[0xb69189f0] /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_string_free+0x44)[0xb6935614] claws-mail(session_destroy+0x74)[0x820e584] claws-mail[0x80dfa01] claws-mail[0x80e34df] claws-mail(folder_item_scan_full+0xb4)[0x80c9c84] claws-mail(folder_item_scan+0xe)[0x80cc38e] claws-mail(procmsg_send_queue+0xa2)[0x81802c2] claws-mail(send_queue_cb+0x69)[0x81b3d39] claws-mail[0x81b3ee1] /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x14b)[0xb6a05c3b] From suevb01 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 11:03:41 2017 From: suevb01 at gmail.com (sue butler) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 10:03:41 +0100 Subject: [Users] Running Clawsmail from boot In-Reply-To: <20170416114946.34507b62@hawk.localdomain> References: <07a13638-1203-875d-d5b0-6f3c054da16c@gmail.com> <20170416114946.34507b62@hawk.localdomain> Message-ID: On 16/04/2017 18:49, Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 18:28:30 +0100 > sue butler wrote: > >> My aim is to run Claws from boot, and despite trying various methods >> I just cant do it, I wonder whether anyone has any suggestions.... > Do you really want to run it from boot? Sorry - my poor explanation - I want it to start up when the Raspberry Pi starts. (For example, after a power outage) I understand about not running it as root - although I was considering that this might have to be an option!! I hoped that just launching it in a Python Script that runs from the Scheduler (or crontab) would launch it with me as the user, just as it does when I run the script from the command line. > Much better to run user applications (such as claws-mail) as your user. > You may prefer to set it to launch on login, not on boot. How you do > that depends on your window and session managers. Am digging about with Google to try to find out more about how to do this! > >> When I start Claws from the command line using/$ claws-mail/ I get a >> similar response, but the command line hangs until I use ^C although >> Claws starts up and runs OK. > Right. Running just > > $ claws-mail > runs CM in the foreground, and blocks the shell. To run it in the > background and get back the use of the shell, run instead > $ claws-mail & > (Note the ampersand.) Sorry, have tried that, and it still behaves the same way. I had tried both approaches in my Python Script too, and it made no difference. Should I be worried about the Warning I get? > >> I am relatively new to the Raspberry Pi, Linux and Claws, but have >> managed to work most things out. > :-) You were bitten by one of the many and subtle differences between > Windows and Linux/Unix. > Ha ha - I know nothing about Windows either, my main experience of programming was in the days when you turned up at the "computer room" with your program on punched cards! I am on a steep learning curve! Thanks for your help, and if you can suggest any other options I would be more than happy to try them. Sue From suevb01 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 11:09:57 2017 From: suevb01 at gmail.com (sue butler) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 10:09:57 +0100 Subject: [Users] Running Clawsmail from boot In-Reply-To: <20170416203409.0f62dda4@penny> References: <07a13638-1203-875d-d5b0-6f3c054da16c@gmail.com> <20170416203409.0f62dda4@penny> Message-ID: <255681e5-7722-2ffa-1aa5-07901ecb76f6@gmail.com> On 16/04/2017 19:34, Andrej Kacian wrote: > > The correct approach is to configure: > 1. Whatever login manager you use to auto-login a user of your choice. > 2. Whatever window manager or desktop environment you use to start > claws-mail upon login for that particular user's session. > > Regards, Thank you, I am now busy trying to find out how to do this. (The user auto-login is already set as default on the Rasbian Noobs set-up) Do I need to worry about the warning messages? /** (claws-mail:4201): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GtkCMUnit' as enum when in fact it is of type 'gint'/ /sys:1: Warning: /build/glib2.0-tTvduh/glib2.0-2.42.1/./gobject/gsignal.c:2540: handler '4014' of instance '0x603300' is not blocked Sue / -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrej at kacian.sk Mon Apr 17 12:48:40 2017 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 12:48:40 +0200 Subject: [Users] Running Clawsmail from boot In-Reply-To: <255681e5-7722-2ffa-1aa5-07901ecb76f6@gmail.com> References: <07a13638-1203-875d-d5b0-6f3c054da16c@gmail.com> <20170416203409.0f62dda4@penny> <255681e5-7722-2ffa-1aa5-07901ecb76f6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20170417124840.004e3f9a@penny> On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 10:09:57 +0100 sue butler wrote: > On 16/04/2017 19:34, Andrej Kacian wrote: > > > > The correct approach is to configure: > > 1. Whatever login manager you use to auto-login a user of your choice. > > 2. Whatever window manager or desktop environment you use to start > > claws-mail upon login for that particular user's session. > > > > Regards, > Thank you, I am now busy trying to find out how to do this. (The user > auto-login is already set as default on the Rasbian Noobs set-up) > Do I need to worry about the warning messages? > > /** (claws-mail:4201): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GtkCMUnit' > as enum when in fact it is of type 'gint'/ > > /sys:1: Warning: > /build/glib2.0-tTvduh/glib2.0-2.42.1/./gobject/gsignal.c:2540: handler > '4014' of instance '0x603300' is not blocked I really have no idea, I've never seen these before, but neither of them look very healthy. Although, the first one almost looks like you are running claws-mail which was built against a different version of GLib than your system has installed. Regards, -- Andrej From suevb01 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 13:17:22 2017 From: suevb01 at gmail.com (sue butler) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 12:17:22 +0100 Subject: [Users] Running Clawsmail from boot In-Reply-To: <20170417124840.004e3f9a@penny> References: <07a13638-1203-875d-d5b0-6f3c054da16c@gmail.com> <20170416203409.0f62dda4@penny> <255681e5-7722-2ffa-1aa5-07901ecb76f6@gmail.com> <20170417124840.004e3f9a@penny> Message-ID: On 17/04/2017 11:48, Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 10:09:57 +0100 > sue butler wrote: > >> Do I need to worry about the warning messages? >> >> /** (claws-mail:4201): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GtkCMUnit' >> as enum when in fact it is of type 'gint'/ >> >> /sys:1: Warning: >> /build/glib2.0-tTvduh/glib2.0-2.42.1/./gobject/gsignal.c:2540: handler >> '4014' of instance '0x603300' is not blocked > I really have no idea, I've never seen these before, but neither of > them look very healthy. > > Although, the first one almost looks like you are running claws-mail > which was built against a different version of GLib than your system > has installed. > > That is odd, as I only set up the system less than a month ago and the Noobs installation comes with Clawsmail installed. I loaded the Python Plugin a few days later. I could try uninstalling and re-installing Clawsmail I guess. Thanks anyway - I will come back if it causes me problems. Sue From andrej at kacian.sk Mon Apr 17 14:30:47 2017 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:30:47 +0200 Subject: [Users] Running Clawsmail from boot In-Reply-To: References: <07a13638-1203-875d-d5b0-6f3c054da16c@gmail.com> <20170416203409.0f62dda4@penny> <255681e5-7722-2ffa-1aa5-07901ecb76f6@gmail.com> <20170417124840.004e3f9a@penny> Message-ID: <20170417143047.53b03afc@penny> On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 12:17:22 +0100 sue butler wrote: > On 17/04/2017 11:48, Andrej Kacian wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 10:09:57 +0100 > > sue butler wrote: > > > >> Do I need to worry about the warning messages? > >> > >> /** (claws-mail:4201): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GtkCMUnit' > >> as enum when in fact it is of type 'gint'/ > >> > >> /sys:1: Warning: > >> /build/glib2.0-tTvduh/glib2.0-2.42.1/./gobject/gsignal.c:2540: handler > >> '4014' of instance '0x603300' is not blocked > > I really have no idea, I've never seen these before, but neither of > > them look very healthy. > > > > Although, the first one almost looks like you are running claws-mail > > which was built against a different version of GLib than your system > > has installed. > > > > > That is odd, as I only set up the system less than a month ago and the > Noobs installation comes with Clawsmail installed. I loaded the Python > Plugin a few days later. I could try uninstalling and re-installing > Clawsmail I guess. Hm, after some more research (if web searches can be called 'research' :) ), it is triggered by you loading the python plugin. The warning itself, "Trying to register gtype '...' as enum ...", comes from pygobject, but I do not know nearly enough about Python and pygtk/pygobject to even guess whether the error is in Claws Mail code or you have a buggy version of pygobject installed. Sorry. Regards, -- Andrej From mir at miras.org Mon Apr 17 14:45:51 2017 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:45:51 +0200 Subject: [Users] Running Clawsmail from boot In-Reply-To: <20170417143047.53b03afc@penny> References: <07a13638-1203-875d-d5b0-6f3c054da16c@gmail.com> <20170416203409.0f62dda4@penny> <255681e5-7722-2ffa-1aa5-07901ecb76f6@gmail.com> <20170417124840.004e3f9a@penny> <20170417143047.53b03afc@penny> Message-ID: <20170417144551.7bcd3111@sleipner.datanom.net> On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:30:47 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > > Hm, after some more research (if web searches can be called > 'research' :) ), it is triggered by you loading the python plugin. > > The warning itself, "Trying to register gtype '...' as enum ...", comes > from pygobject, but I do not know nearly enough about Python and > pygtk/pygobject to even guess whether the error is in Claws Mail code > or you have a buggy version of pygobject installed. Sorry. Has anybody ever tested the python plugin on ARMv7 before? Maybe a type porting problem between x86 and ARMv7? -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: An optimist is a man who looks forward to marriage. A pessimist is a married optimist. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 488 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From clifflaine at europe.com Mon Apr 17 14:47:49 2017 From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 13:47:49 +0100 Subject: [Users] 3.15.0 Package for Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <1492367217.811.2.camel@zoho.com> References: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz> <1492367217.811.2.camel@zoho.com> Message-ID: <20170417134749.201c5ae6@korky-Inspiron-1525> On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 20:26:57 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2017-04-16 at 14:02 -0400, David Burleigh wrote: > > Does anyone know of a Ubuntu package for version 3.15.0? > > Hi, > > you could build the package on your own. It shouldn't require to build > any dependencies, it at least isn't necessary when running Ubuntu > 16.04.2 LTS. > > git clone git://git.claws-mail.org/claws.git > > cd claws/ > > git checkout a2ef596 > > ./autogen.sh > I can get this far, then user at user ~/claws $ ./autogen.sh ./autogen.sh: 39: ./autogen.sh: aclocal: not found ./autogen.sh: 45: exec: ./configure: not found From mir at miras.org Mon Apr 17 14:49:42 2017 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:49:42 +0200 Subject: [Users] 3.15.0 Package for Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <20170417134749.201c5ae6@korky-Inspiron-1525> References: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz> <1492367217.811.2.camel@zoho.com> <20170417134749.201c5ae6@korky-Inspiron-1525> Message-ID: <20170417144942.4b2ac591@sleipner.datanom.net> On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 13:47:49 +0100 Cliff Laine wrote: > > I can get this far, then > > user at user ~/claws $ ./autogen.sh > ./autogen.sh: 39: ./autogen.sh: aclocal: not found > ./autogen.sh: 45: exec: ./configure: not found Above is normally solved by installing the build-essential package. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: In West Union, Ohio, No married man can go flying without his spouse along at any time, unless he has been married for more than 12 months. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 488 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From suevb01 at gmail.com Mon Apr 17 15:02:29 2017 From: suevb01 at gmail.com (sue butler) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:02:29 +0100 Subject: [Users] Running Clawsmail from boot In-Reply-To: <20170416114946.34507b62@hawk.localdomain> References: <07a13638-1203-875d-d5b0-6f3c054da16c@gmail.com> <20170416114946.34507b62@hawk.localdomain> Message-ID: <0b0bd7ab-f202-20c3-b67f-581ab57e70ea@gmail.com> Just a quick update - I have now found the right place to add clawsmail into my login sequence, and all is working as planned: http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2014/05/how-to-autostart-apps-in-rasbian-lxde-desktop/ I am still a little concerned about the warning messages, but they don't seem to be affecting anything, so I will ignore them! Thank you so much for all your help, both Charles and Andrej. Sue From clifflaine at europe.com Mon Apr 17 15:28:37 2017 From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:28:37 +0100 Subject: [Users] 3.15.0 Package for Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <20170417144942.4b2ac591@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz> <1492367217.811.2.camel@zoho.com> <20170417134749.201c5ae6@korky-Inspiron-1525> <20170417144942.4b2ac591@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20170417142837.5662eceb@korky-Inspiron-1525> On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:49:42 +0200 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 13:47:49 +0100 > Cliff Laine wrote: > > > > > I can get this far, then > > > > user at user ~/claws $ ./autogen.sh > > ./autogen.sh: 39: ./autogen.sh: aclocal: not found > > ./autogen.sh: 45: exec: ./configure: not found > > Above is normally solved by installing the build-essential package. > Thank you Michael, but not here unfortunately (Mint 18, Ubuntu 16.04.4). Cliff From mir at miras.org Mon Apr 17 15:42:43 2017 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 15:42:43 +0200 Subject: [Users] 3.15.0 Package for Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <20170417142837.5662eceb@korky-Inspiron-1525> References: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz> <1492367217.811.2.camel@zoho.com> <20170417134749.201c5ae6@korky-Inspiron-1525> <20170417144942.4b2ac591@sleipner.datanom.net> <20170417142837.5662eceb@korky-Inspiron-1525> Message-ID: <20170417154243.7e9ddb1e@sleipner.datanom.net> On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:28:37 +0100 Cliff Laine wrote: > > Thank you Michael, but not here unfortunately (Mint 18, Ubuntu 16.04.4). > Then sudo apt install automake autoconf -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: Referring to a book: I read part of it all the way through. -- Samuel Goldwyn -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 488 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Mon Apr 17 16:49:14 2017 From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 08:49:14 -0600 Subject: [Users] 3.15.0 Package for Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <20170417142837.5662eceb@korky-Inspiron-1525> References: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz> <1492367217.811.2.camel@zoho.com> <20170417134749.201c5ae6@korky-Inspiron-1525> <20170417144942.4b2ac591@sleipner.datanom.net> <20170417142837.5662eceb@korky-Inspiron-1525> Message-ID: <20170417084914.35340491@hawk.localdomain> On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:28:37 +0100 Cliff Laine wrote: > > Above is normally solved by installing the build-essential package. > > > > Thank you Michael, but not here unfortunately (Mint 18, Ubuntu > 16.04.4). Odd. I see it on Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS Try: apt-cache show build-essential If that shows that the package is available, edit the line to install it. -- The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. -- U.S. Const. Amendment IV Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB From dick at therucks.me.uk Mon Apr 17 21:54:02 2017 From: dick at therucks.me.uk (Dick Ruck) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 20:54:02 +0100 Subject: [Users] next-on-delete query Message-ID: <20170417205402.1528bfed@gandalf> I am running CM 3.13.2 on Mint 18.1 Serena. When I delete a mail the next selected email is the previous email, which I believe is the correct default behaviour. I would prefer the cursor to select the next email after deletion so I closed CM and edited ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc changing next_on_delete=0 to next_on_delete=1 I ran CM and the behaviour has not changed, CM still selects the previous message. Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug? TIA Dick -- Please help combat spam, when sending out bulk emails: 1. always use the BCC: field 2. never use the TO: or CC: fields From andrej at kacian.sk Mon Apr 17 22:20:17 2017 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 22:20:17 +0200 Subject: [Users] next-on-delete query In-Reply-To: <20170417205402.1528bfed@gandalf> References: <20170417205402.1528bfed@gandalf> Message-ID: <20170417222017.46843c08@penny> On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 20:54:02 +0100 Dick Ruck wrote: > I am running CM 3.13.2 on Mint 18.1 Serena. When I delete a mail the > next selected email is the previous email, which I believe is the > correct default behaviour. > > I would prefer the cursor to select the next email after deletion so > I closed CM and edited ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc > changing > next_on_delete=0 > to > next_on_delete=1 > > I ran CM and the behaviour has not changed, CM still selects the > previous message. > > Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug? If your 'deleting' is in fact moving to Trash folder, this is indeed a bug that was fixed in 3.14.0. From that version's release notes: * Preferences: The 'next_on_delete' hidden preference now applies to trashing or moving, in addition to deleting, a message. Regards, -- Andrej From dick at therucks.me.uk Mon Apr 17 23:54:29 2017 From: dick at therucks.me.uk (Dick Ruck) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 22:54:29 +0100 Subject: [Users] next-on-delete query In-Reply-To: <20170417222017.46843c08@penny> References: <20170417205402.1528bfed@gandalf> <20170417222017.46843c08@penny> Message-ID: <20170417225429.7e8c8027@gandalf> Thank you Andrej, Dick On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 22:20:17 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 20:54:02 +0100 > Dick Ruck wrote: > > > I am running CM 3.13.2 on Mint 18.1 Serena. When I delete a mail the > > next selected email is the previous email, which I believe is the > > correct default behaviour. > > > > I would prefer the cursor to select the next email after deletion so > > I closed CM and edited ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc > > changing > > next_on_delete=0 > > to > > next_on_delete=1 > > > > I ran CM and the behaviour has not changed, CM still selects the > > previous message. > > > > Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug? > > If your 'deleting' is in fact moving to Trash folder, this is indeed a > bug that was fixed in 3.14.0. From that version's release notes: > > * Preferences: The 'next_on_delete' hidden preference now applies to > trashing or moving, in addition to deleting, a message. > > Regards, -- Please help combat spam, when sending out bulk emails: 1. always use the BCC: field 2. never use the TO: or CC: fields From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Apr 18 17:40:10 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 15:40:10 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3744] Crash upon deleting tags In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3744 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #8 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2017-04-09 18:33:02.962605369 +0200 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=0aebd110e77ebb278a6cc6b6967dfaa6618d16ab Merge: d21265f 9eb1c96 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Sun Apr 9 18:33:02 2017 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=9eb1c969c85d38b31c12ec188eec8932e522a45d Author: Andrej Kacian Date: Sun Apr 9 18:31:52 2017 +0200 Fix GUI not updating after deleting a tag. Fixes bug #3744 - Crash upon deleting tags. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From edwardp at linuxmail.org Tue Apr 18 23:56:04 2017 From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 17:56:04 -0400 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.15 > Fedora Message-ID: <20170418175604.56829023@downstairs> Will Claws 3.15 eventually make its way to Fedora? I was curious as to whether it was delayed, because of all the bug reports filed since 3.15 was unleashed and didn't see it listed on the Fedora Updates System web site. Unfortunately, I can no longer use Claws for Windows, as Windows (under 7 Home Premium, 64-bit) will no longer update. Since Microsoft now releases monthly updates as combined security/quality roll-ups, those files will not install on my system, the error code indicates a permission error, yet as my account is also the Administrator account, there is no reason why those cannot be installed. As it will no longer update, I'm through with Windows. From andrej at kacian.sk Wed Apr 19 00:07:45 2017 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 00:07:45 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.15 > Fedora In-Reply-To: <20170418175604.56829023@downstairs> References: <20170418175604.56829023@downstairs> Message-ID: <20170419000745.5eac8bca@penny> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 17:56:04 -0400 wrote: > Will Claws 3.15 eventually make its way to Fedora? I was curious > as to whether it was delayed, because of all the bug reports filed > since 3.15 was unleashed and didn't see it listed on the Fedora Updates > System web site. There seems to be some activity on that front: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=1474 > Unfortunately, I can no longer use Claws for Windows, as Windows (under > 7 Home Premium, 64-bit) will no longer update. Since Microsoft now > releases monthly updates as combined security/quality roll-ups, those > files will not install on my system, the error code indicates a > permission error, yet as my account is also the Administrator account, > there is no reason why those cannot be installed. As it will no > longer update, I'm through with Windows. Shouldn't that first word read as "Fortunately"? :) Regards, -- Andrej From edwardp at linuxmail.org Wed Apr 19 00:54:19 2017 From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 18:54:19 -0400 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.15 > Fedora Message-ID: <20170418185419.55850663@downstairs> Depends on the subject, Andrej. :) "Unfortunately" - Because I really liked using the 64-bit Windows version of Claws. You couldn't imagine how happy I was, to see something other than a web browser, for Windows, made available for 64-bit software/architecture. "Fortunately" - well, OK... Fortunately, I am no longer using Windows because of its inability to update. Thank you for the link to the koji (buildsystem) site, I have bookmarked it. Although it shows information for Fedora 26 and 27, but not for 25. Maybe they're not building packages for 25 due to the upcoming release of 26? Ed From edwardp at linuxmail.org Wed Apr 19 01:06:14 2017 From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 19:06:14 -0400 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.15 > Fedora Message-ID: <20170418185419.55850663@downstairs> (Looks like my original post didn't make it to the list, my apologies if this one ends up being a duplicate.) Depends on the subject, Andrej. :) "Unfortunately" - Because I really liked using the 64-bit Windows version of Claws. You couldn't imagine how happy I was, to see something other than a web browser, for Windows, made available for 64-bit software/architecture. "Fortunately" - well, OK... Fortunately, I am no longer using Windows because of its inability to update. Thank you for the link to the koji (buildsystem) site, I have bookmarked it. Although it shows information for Fedora 26 and 27, but not for 25. Maybe they're not building packages for 25 due to the upcoming release of 26? Ed From kardan at riseup.net Wed Apr 19 03:52:54 2017 From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 03:52:54 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws-mail tries to connect in offline-mode In-Reply-To: <20170405104956.24b1fd22@kujata> References: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net> <20170405094141.7fb0bd43@kujata> <20170405110417.5bdcd4d9@riseup.net> <20170405102729.1f3cf5a8@kujata> <20170405114309.30301645@riseup.net> <20170405104956.24b1fd22@kujata> Message-ID: <20170416212621.212ca352@riseup.net> Hi Paul, I watched the beast some more time. On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 10:49:56 +0100 Paul wrote: > It doesn't do that here. Offline is offline. It appears that Claws has its rounds to finish and does not directly react to my nervous clicks to go offline. Just like a train won't jump directly to the depot when you call it back. Would it be possible to implement 'beaming' to kill existing connections? Talking of connections: From time to time claws dies from broken connections. Not regularly, maybe a memory leak (details below). Best and thanks, kardan Claws Mail version 3.14.1 runtime GTK+ 2.24.31 / GLib 2.50.3 buildtime GTK+ 2.24.31 / GLib 2.50.3 Compiled-in features: compface Enchant GnuTLS 3.5.8-5 IPv6 iconv JPilot LDAP libetpan 1.6 libSM NetworkManager ** (claws-mail:4593): WARNING **: [17:22:05] Couldn't login to IMAP server mail.riseup.net. *** Error in `claws-mail': free(): corrupted unsorted chunks: 0x0abd6200 *** ======= Backtrace: ========= /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x6737a)[0xb623437a] /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x6dfb7)[0xb623afb7] /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x6e776)[0xb623b776] /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_free+0x20)[0xb69189f0] /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_string_free+0x44)[0xb6935614] claws-mail(session_destroy+0x74)[0x820e584] claws-mail[0x80dfa01] claws-mail[0x80e34df] claws-mail(folder_item_scan_full+0xb4)[0x80c9c84] claws-mail(folder_item_scan+0xe)[0x80cc38e] claws-mail(procmsg_send_queue+0xa2)[0x81802c2] claws-mail(send_queue_cb+0x69)[0x81b3d39] claws-mail[0x81b3ee1] /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_closure_invoke+0x14b)[0xb6a05c3b] From olaf at aepfle.de Wed Apr 19 08:08:25 2017 From: olaf at aepfle.de (Olaf Hering) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 08:08:25 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws-mail tries to connect in offline-mode In-Reply-To: <20170416212621.212ca352@riseup.net> References: <20170405103345.4a269166@riseup.net> <20170405094141.7fb0bd43@kujata> <20170405110417.5bdcd4d9@riseup.net> <20170405102729.1f3cf5a8@kujata> <20170405114309.30301645@riseup.net> <20170405104956.24b1fd22@kujata> <20170416212621.212ca352@riseup.net> Message-ID: <20170419080825.138692d2.olaf@aepfle.de> Am Wed, 19 Apr 2017 03:52:54 +0200 schrieb kardan : > ** (claws-mail:4593): WARNING **: [17:22:05] Couldn't login to IMAP > server mail.riseup.net. > *** Error in `claws-mail': free(): corrupted unsorted chunks: This part was most likely fixed yesterday: da97dac53 Fix use after free Olaf -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 20 07:20:32 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 05:20:32 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3811] remove old certs from ~/.claws-mail/certs/ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3811 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|delete SSL certs ignored |remove old certs from | |~/.claws-mail/certs/ Severity|normal |enhancement -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 20 07:28:01 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 05:28:01 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3811] deleting SSL certs doesn't always work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3811 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|remove old certs from |deleting SSL certs doesn't |~/.claws-mail/certs/ |always work Severity|enhancement |normal --- Comment #1 from Paul --- I was a bit too quick on my first edit. On more testing I note that sometimes clicking the 'Delete' button doesn't work - just once from several test deletes. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 20 09:50:57 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 07:50:57 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3812] New: It is not possible to write "i" and "=?UTF-8?Q?=C4=B0?=" characters with W8.1's touchscreen keyboard Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3812 Bug ID: 3812 Summary: It is not possible to write "i" and "İ" characters with W8.1's touchscreen keyboard Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail (Windows) Version: 3.15.0 Hardware: PC OS: Windows 8 Status: NEW Severity: major Priority: P3 Component: default Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: unknownbuckethead at yandex.com I'm using Windows 8.1 tablet with latest updates installed. I don't have a physical keyboard so I'm using Windows' touch screen keyboard. With Turkish locale and Turkish Q keyboard layout, it is not possible to write "i" and "İ" characters in Claws Mail. The other keyboard that called "On-screen keyboard" has no problem with these characters. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 20 12:32:24 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 10:32:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3812] It is not possible to write "i" and "=?UTF-8?Q?=C4=B0?=" characters with W8.1's touchscreen keyboard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3812 --- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian --- Hi, perhaps this might help you, sounds like it could be the same issue you're having: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_word-mso_windows8/bug-windows-8-touchscreen-turkish-q-keyboard-opens/9e2662b9-c2de-41b9-9613-0d2000956830 I have no idea what the solution proposed in the last answer is, since I do not speak Turkish, but hopefully it will be useful to you. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From clifflaine at europe.com Fri Apr 21 10:23:44 2017 From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 09:23:44 +0100 Subject: [Users] 3.15.0 Package for Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <20170417084914.35340491@hawk.localdomain> References: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz> <1492367217.811.2.camel@zoho.com> <20170417134749.201c5ae6@korky-Inspiron-1525> <20170417144942.4b2ac591@sleipner.datanom.net> <20170417142837.5662eceb@korky-Inspiron-1525> <20170417084914.35340491@hawk.localdomain> Message-ID: <20170421092344.305a893e@korky-Inspiron-1525> On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 08:49:14 -0600 Charles Curley wrote: > > Try: > > apt-cache show build-essential > > > If that shows that the package is available, edit the line to install > it. > That produces: Package: build-essential Priority: optional Section: devel Installed-Size: 20 Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers Original-Maintainer: Matthias Klose Architecture: i386 Version: 12.1ubuntu2 Depends: libc6-dev | libc-dev, gcc (>= 4:5.2), g++ (>= 4:5.2), make, dpkg-dev (>= 1.17.11) Filename: pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_12.1ubuntu2_i386.deb Size: 4756 MD5sum: 1cb9932e040ab09c95aa375a269b9668 SHA1: 592f3a43dd4853f390a4034e30d8aba428176182 SHA256: 071efa6b5921bf68867017d7e2b113ad21505fed187eb385d9125b59bb46d465 Description-en_GB: Informational list of build-essential packages [...] Description-md5: 90ef0ef86cafda0bd16f746eb621d9da Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug Build-Essential: yes Origin: Ubuntu Supported: 5y Task: ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-usb, edubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-usb, ubuntustudio-audio, ubuntukylin-desktop N: Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension -------------- I assume that means CM 3.15.0 isn't available to me? Cliff From silver.bullet at zoho.com Fri Apr 21 12:14:17 2017 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:14:17 +0200 Subject: [Users] 3.15.0 Package for Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <20170421092344.305a893e@korky-Inspiron-1525> References: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz> <1492367217.811.2.camel@zoho.com> <20170417134749.201c5ae6@korky-Inspiron-1525> <20170417144942.4b2ac591@sleipner.datanom.net> <20170417142837.5662eceb@korky-Inspiron-1525> <20170417084914.35340491@hawk.localdomain> <20170421092344.305a893e@korky-Inspiron-1525> Message-ID: <20170421121417.2a64749e@utnubu> On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 09:23:44 +0100, Cliff Laine wrote: >N: Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist' in directory >'/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension > >-------------- > >I assume that means CM 3.15.0 isn't available to me? Read https://askubuntu.com/questions/829370/n-ignoring-file-50unattended-upgrades-ucf-dist-in-directory-etc-apt-apt-con this notice is irrelevant, but you anyway could get rid of it. How did you try to install the package or packages? Did you run sudo apt update sudo apt install build-essential sudo apt install automake autoconf ? Perhaps you missed to run "sudo apt update" first? You could also try running cd /tmp/ wget http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_12.1ubuntu2_i386.deb sudo apt update sudo apt full-upgrade sudo apt install ./build-essential_12.1ubuntu2_i386.deb "apt install" does the same as "gdebi" does, it installs the local stored package and tries to resolve dependencies from the repositories. If it should fail, post the complete output of the commands and the output of grep -v "#" /etc/apt/sources.list Regards, Ralf From silver.bullet at zoho.com Fri Apr 21 12:37:15 2017 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:37:15 +0200 Subject: [Users] 3.15.0 Package for Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <20170421121417.2a64749e@utnubu> References: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz> <1492367217.811.2.camel@zoho.com> <20170417134749.201c5ae6@korky-Inspiron-1525> <20170417144942.4b2ac591@sleipner.datanom.net> <20170417142837.5662eceb@korky-Inspiron-1525> <20170417084914.35340491@hawk.localdomain> <20170421092344.305a893e@korky-Inspiron-1525> <20170421121417.2a64749e@utnubu> Message-ID: <20170421123715.2f590b50@utnubu> On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:14:17 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 09:23:44 +0100, Cliff Laine wrote: >>N: Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist' in directory >>'/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension >> >>-------------- >> >>I assume that means CM 3.15.0 isn't available to me? > >Read > >https://askubuntu.com/questions/829370/n-ignoring-file-50unattended-upgrades-ucf-dist-in-directory-etc-apt-apt-con > >this notice is irrelevant, but you anyway could get rid of it. > >How did you try to install the package or packages? > >Did you run > >sudo apt update >sudo apt install build-essential >sudo apt install automake autoconf > >? > >Perhaps you missed to run "sudo apt update" first? > >You could also try running > >cd /tmp/ >wget >http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_12.1ubuntu2_i386.deb >sudo apt update sudo apt full-upgrade >sudo apt install ./build-essential_12.1ubuntu2_i386.deb > >"apt install" does the same as "gdebi" does, it installs the local >stored package and tries to resolve dependencies from the repositories. > >If it should fail, post the complete output of the commands and the >output of > >grep -v "#" /etc/apt/sources.list autoconf is a hard dependency of automake, so you only need to install autoconf or if you just want to install build-essential, then automake and autoconf seem to be just suggested dependencies of build-essential's hard dependency gcc, so you might need to run sudo apt -o APT::Install-Suggests="true" install build-essential resp. sudo apt -o APT::Install-Suggests="true" install ./build-essential_12.1ubuntu2_i386.deb From silver.bullet at zoho.com Fri Apr 21 12:38:56 2017 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:38:56 +0200 Subject: [Users] 3.15.0 Package for Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <20170421123715.2f590b50@utnubu> References: <20170416140203.4dea5287@dz> <1492367217.811.2.camel@zoho.com> <20170417134749.201c5ae6@korky-Inspiron-1525> <20170417144942.4b2ac591@sleipner.datanom.net> <20170417142837.5662eceb@korky-Inspiron-1525> <20170417084914.35340491@hawk.localdomain> <20170421092344.305a893e@korky-Inspiron-1525> <20170421121417.2a64749e@utnubu> <20170421123715.2f590b50@utnubu> Message-ID: <20170421123856.059c9685@utnubu> On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:37:15 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:14:17 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 09:23:44 +0100, Cliff Laine wrote: >>>N: Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist' in directory >>>'/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension >>> >>>-------------- >>> >>>I assume that means CM 3.15.0 isn't available to me? >> >>Read >> >>https://askubuntu.com/questions/829370/n-ignoring-file-50unattended-upgrades-ucf-dist-in-directory-etc-apt-apt-con >> >>this notice is irrelevant, but you anyway could get rid of it. >> >>How did you try to install the package or packages? >> >>Did you run >> >>sudo apt update >>sudo apt install build-essential >>sudo apt install automake autoconf >> >>? >> >>Perhaps you missed to run "sudo apt update" first? >> >>You could also try running >> >>cd /tmp/ >>wget >>http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_12.1ubuntu2_i386.deb >>sudo apt update sudo apt full-upgrade >>sudo apt install ./build-essential_12.1ubuntu2_i386.deb >> >>"apt install" does the same as "gdebi" does, it installs the local >>stored package and tries to resolve dependencies from the >>repositories. >> >>If it should fail, post the complete output of the commands and the >>output of >> >>grep -v "#" /etc/apt/sources.list > >autoconf is a hard dependency of automake, so you only need to install >autoconf or if you just want to install build-essential, then ^^^^^^^^ Oops, this should read automake >automake and autoconf seem to be just suggested dependencies of >build-essential's hard dependency gcc, so you might need to run > >sudo apt -o APT::Install-Suggests="true" install build-essential > >resp. > >sudo apt -o APT::Install-Suggests="true" >install ./build-essential_12.1ubuntu2_i386.deb From victoria.a.stuart at gmail.com Fri Apr 21 20:09:07 2017 From: victoria.a.stuart at gmail.com (Victoria Stuart (gmail)) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 11:09:07 -0700 Subject: [Users] Processing rules on folder without opening it? Message-ID: <20170421110907.007b081a@gmail.com> I have various email accounts, each with an Inbox and a processing rule (filter: all new mail move to another folder ...). I want to automatically move the messages that arrive in those Inbox folders to a default Inbox (my main email account), without first having to click those various Inboxes (to trigger the filter). How can I accomplish this? ============================================================================== From myetto1 at nycap.rr.com Fri Apr 21 21:23:36 2017 From: myetto1 at nycap.rr.com (Michael A. Yetto) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 15:23:36 -0400 Subject: [Users] Processing rules on folder without opening it? In-Reply-To: <20170421110907.007b081a@gmail.com> References: <20170421110907.007b081a@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20170421152336.6d183d89@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 11:09:07 -0700 "Victoria Stuart (gmail)" writes, and having writ moves on: >I have various email accounts, each with an Inbox and a processing >rule (filter: all new mail move to another folder ...). > >I want to automatically move the messages that arrive in those Inbox >folders to a default Inbox (my main email account), without first >having to click those various Inboxes (to trigger the filter). > >How can I accomplish this? > I think what you want is under Configuration / Edit Account / Edit / Receive; set Filter messages on receiving. And then, of course, create the appropriate filters. Mike Yetto -- "The important thing in science is not so much to obtain new facts as to discover new ways of thinking about them." - Sir William Henry Bragg, Nobel Prize for Physics, 1915 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 473 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From victoria.a.stuart at gmail.com Fri Apr 21 21:39:13 2017 From: victoria.a.stuart at gmail.com (Victoria Stuart (gmail)) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:39:13 -0700 Subject: [Users] Processing rules on folder without opening it? In-Reply-To: <20170421152336.6d183d89@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> References: <20170421110907.007b081a@gmail.com> <20170421152336.6d183d89@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> Message-ID: <20170421123715.016b9eb4@VictoriasJourney.com> Thank you for your suggestion, but I have that enabled, already, on all my mail accounts: "Configuration / Edit Accounts / Edit / Receive: set Filter messages on receiving." ============================================================================== >I have various email accounts, each with an Inbox and a processing >rule (filter: all new mail move to another folder ...). > >I want to automatically move the messages that arrive in those Inbox >folders to a default Inbox (my main email account), without first >having to click those various Inboxes (to trigger the filter). > >How can I accomplish this? I think what you want is under Configuration / Edit Account / Edit / Receive; set Filter messages on receiving. And then, of course, create the appropriate filters. ============================================================================== From victoria.a.stuart at gmail.com Fri Apr 21 21:46:48 2017 From: victoria.a.stuart at gmail.com (Victoria Stuart (gmail)) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:46:48 -0700 Subject: [Users] Processing rules on folder without opening it? In-Reply-To: <20170421123715.016b9eb4@VictoriasJourney.com> References: <20170421110907.007b081a@gmail.com> <20170421152336.6d183d89@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> <20170421123715.016b9eb4@VictoriasJourney.com> Message-ID: <20170421124648.2fb7b139@gmail.com> OK: working now, for some reason! Thank you - very much appreciated! :-D ============================================================================== ----- Original Message(s): ----- Date: 2017 Apr 21 (Fri) 12:39 From: "Victoria Stuart (gmail)" To: users at lists.claws-mail.org Cc: mail at VictoriasJourney.com Subject: Re: [Users] Processing rules on folder without opening it? Thank you for your suggestion, but I have that enabled, already, on all my mail accounts: "Configuration / Edit Accounts / Edit / Receive: set Filter messages on receiving." ============================================================================== >I have various email accounts, each with an Inbox and a processing >rule (filter: all new mail move to another folder ...). > >I want to automatically move the messages that arrive in those Inbox >folders to a default Inbox (my main email account), without first >having to click those various Inboxes (to trigger the filter). > >How can I accomplish this? I think what you want is under Configuration / Edit Account / Edit / Receive; set Filter messages on receiving. And then, of course, create the appropriate filters. ============================================================================== From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 21 22:46:45 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:46:45 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3813] New: "mouse up" activates link even if "mouse down" occurred outside the link / cannot copy link text Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3813 Bug ID: 3813 Summary: "mouse up" activates link even if "mouse down" occurred outside the link / cannot copy link text Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.14.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/Fancy Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: thewildbeast at osndok.com I often receive emails that have a single linkified identifier. e.g. Tracking Number: 123456 ...where "123456" is an HTML link. ...sometimes with a few characters noise after it. ...sometimes with "more linked text" before it. As a user, I want to copy the *text* of the link. Experimentally, I find: * If I right click on the link, there is an option to copy it's URL, but not it's text. * If I try to highlight the text *starting* inside the link, it begins a drag-and-drop operation (thinking that I want to open it in a browser, for example) * If I start the highlight from outside, but *end* inside the link... then the software interprets that I was trying to click the link, * Using Ctrl, Alt, or Shift modifier keys does not produce an effect that would let me more easily select the desired text Therefore, the only way (that I know of) to perform this operation in the fancy/html view is to select *MORE* than the link (both before and after), and then trim it again wherever I end up pasting it; which seems like it is "twice the work" of normal copy-and-paste workflows. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 21 22:53:11 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:53:11 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3814] New: using 'escape' to cancel a dragged link often opens it as if it is clicked... sometimes twice Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3814 Bug ID: 3814 Summary: using 'escape' to cancel a dragged link often opens it as if it is clicked... sometimes twice Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.14.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/Fancy Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: thewildbeast at osndok.com Steps to reproduce: 1. optionally: begin holding down alt or control 2. start dragging a link at least outside of it's own bounds-box 3. press any key (or release modifier) 4. press escape to cancel the drag Expected: * the dragged link should pop back in place, without further action Actual: * the dragged link pops back in place, but * claws 'activates' the link in the default web browser * ...sometimes *TWICE*. I might guess that claws/fancy is reacting to it's own cancelled drag-and-drop event, but the behavior is a bit weird... especially the double-opening-when-trying-to-cancel effect. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 22 01:18:18 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 23:18:18 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3814] end of mouse drag or text selection erroneously activates links In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3814 Andrej Kacian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|using 'escape' to cancel a |end of mouse drag or text |dragged link often opens it |selection erroneously |as if it is clicked... |activates links |sometimes twice | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 22 01:23:53 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 23:23:53 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3813] "mouse up" activates link even if "mouse down" occurred outside the link / cannot copy link text In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3813 Andrej Kacian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2017-04-22 01:07:03.017939284 +0200 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=d9d8a5d80d1dadeca265c2de33e04c3507d579ec Merge: 8bbce16 fd6bb2a Author: Colin Leroy Date: Sat Apr 22 01:07:02 2017 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=fd6bb2ab3c69ddfbe3e500f011186bdde6ab6a62 Author: Andrej Kacian Date: Sat Apr 22 01:04:10 2017 +0200 Fancy: correctly handle when text selection event ends on a link Fixes bug #3813 - "mouse up" activates link even if "mouse down" occurred outside the link / cannot copy link text ...with a small caveat where this is not implemented for webkitgtk version earlier than 1.5.1, because I couldn't find relevant old enough API documentation. --- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian --- Thanks for the report. Together with the fix for #3814, links, selecting and selection dragging should behave more or less predictably, and similarly to how Firefox handles it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 22 01:24:09 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 23:24:09 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3814] end of mouse drag or text selection erroneously activates links In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3814 Andrej Kacian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2017-04-22 01:19:02.632313343 +0200 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=12831f0f8f2555230f84893083cb14467eaf21b7 Merge: d9d8a5d ab84747 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Sat Apr 22 01:19:02 2017 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=ab847472955f979cb63bf0a9b576383e51ef5094 Author: Andrej Kacian Date: Sat Apr 22 01:15:30 2017 +0200 Fancy: simplify open-or-not decision to x,y matching or not Fixes bug #3814: end of mouse drag or text selection erroneously activates links -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Mon Apr 24 08:40:25 2017 From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:40:25 +1000 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? Message-ID: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> Hi, Using Mail on Kubuntu 16.04.1 and there are LOTS of problems. Has anyone on this list changed over from KMail please ? I have looked here and there regards docs about this, but doesn't seem comprehensive. Or I looked in the wrong places, .. lol Have installed Claws and it is now looking in my /home/****/Mail path, plus added a heap of files. Anyway, I didn't want to get too bogged down initially with questions, but if there is a KMail/akonadi expert here, would much appreciate it. (I have to restart the akonadi server many times each day, ..sigh). Regards, Peter From slitt at troubleshooters.com Mon Apr 24 09:22:29 2017 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 03:22:29 -0400 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> Message-ID: <20170424032229.072a0155@mydesk.domain.cxm> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:40:25 +1000, Peter wrote: > Hi, > > Using Mail on Kubuntu 16.04.1 and there are LOTS of problems. Has > anyone on this list changed over from KMail please ? I have looked > here and there regards docs about this, but doesn't seem > comprehensive. Or I looked in the wrong places, .. lol I ran away from Kmail about the time they became Kmail2, and I've never been sorry. Here's the story: http://troubleshooters.com/lpm/201202/201202.htm > > Have installed Claws and it is now looking in my /home/****/Mail > path, plus added a heap of files. Anyway, I didn't want to get too > bogged down initially with questions, but if there is a KMail/akonadi > expert here, would much appreciate it. (I have to restart the > akonadi server many times each day, ..sigh). Akonadi, Nepomuk, and out of control dbus-daemons are the reasons I left Kmail. I don't think ANYBODY is an expert at these things. If you're having akonadi problems, I suggest you get out of Kmail while it still works. The way I made the transition was: 1) Make a local Dovecot IMAP server 2) Nurse Kmail to work long enough to copy all my mailboxes in their various trees to the local IMAP server. 3) Set up Claws-Mail to be able to interact with the local IMAP server. I never copied the IMAP server account to Claws mailboxes: I just use Claws as a window into my IMAP server. That way if I ever want to switch from Claws to Alpine or Mutt, it's as easy as having Alpine or Mutt look at the existing IMAP server account.Matter of fact, I have a parallel Alpine email client looking at my IMAP all the time, in case of troubleshooting or other questions. Instead of using Claws filters, I just use Procmail to distribute my mail to various boxes within the IMAP server, so all my email gets properly organized, no matter the email client I'm using.. Be sure you set your IMAP up as ssl only. Nobody needs to be sending passwords in the clear. HTH, From edodd55 at gmail.com Mon Apr 24 12:04:20 2017 From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:04:20 +1000 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> Message-ID: <20170424200420.343da242.edodd55@gmail.com> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:40:25 +1000 Peter wrote: > Hi, > > Using Mail on Kubuntu 16.04.1 and there are LOTS of problems. Has > anyone on this list changed over from KMail please ? I have looked > here and there regards docs about this, but doesn't seem > comprehensive. Or I looked in the wrong places, .. lol > > Have installed Claws and it is now looking in my /home/****/Mail > path, plus added a heap of files. Anyway, I didn't want to get too > bogged down initially with questions, but if there is a KMail/akonadi > expert here, would much appreciate it. (I have to restart the > akonadi server many times each day, ..sigh). > > Regards, > > Peter > > as a long time claws-mail user I converted my husband's Kmail to claws-mail because the akonadi server wouldn't start and so on and so forth. I used a script to convert the Kmail mailbox format ready for Claws-mail and it was excellent. Somewhere on the web site! Then I made a few filters and showed him how to make filters and organise his mail and have provided no further assistance. He is managing it well without it. Liz From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Mon Apr 24 13:58:44 2017 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron)) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 07:58:44 -0400 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> Message-ID: <20170424075844.2a604860@ron.cerrocora.org> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:40:25 +1000 Peter wrote: > Using Mail on Kubuntu 16.04.1 and there are LOTS of problems. Has anyone on > this list changed over from KMail please ? I have looked here and there > regards docs about this, but doesn't seem comprehensive. Or I looked in the > wrong places, .. lol Reposting what I sent to various lists in 2012 (KDE, Claws-mail, Mageia) Cheers, Ron. -- Luck, that's when preparation and opportunity meet. -- P.E. Trudeau -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- Migrating from KMAil-1 (with mbox) to Claws-Mail Having got fed up with KDE as the years went by and KDE became more and more bloatware, I have finally decided to bite the bullet because Mageia-1 has reached its end of life, and upgrading to Mageia-2 (or 3) entails moving to Kmail-2, of which I had heard less-than-shining reports; so the time has come now to migrate to Claws Mail, get rid of KDE and move to a lighter Desktop Environment in the new release of Mageia. This is how I have done it. First open Kmail, "un-tree" any folder that is inside another folder, and bring them up to the "Local folders" level. Then compact all folders (or deleted mails will re-appear). Open addressbook, and export as a LDIF file. Create a temporary directory (~/toto) and use Valentin Koch's mbox2mh script to migrate all your mbox mail folders from /.kde4/share/apps/kmail/mail to mh folders in ~/toto. This is to avoid any unpleasantness if any of your Kmail folders have the same name as a CM folder. Then move all those folders from ~/toto to your CM directory, changing names if needed. Open CM, right-click on the top item of the folders list "mailmh (MH)" and click "Check for new folders"; wait while _all_ your mails are gone through; then right-click on each folder in turn, and click "Mark all as read" (all your mails were read, no ?). Go to Tools => Addressbook, then Tools => Import LDIF file to add the content of your Kmail addressbook to the CM addressbook. If you had but a few filter rules, re-create them with the GUI; if you had a mort of them, see below. Good luck. Migrating mail filtering rules from KMAil to Claws-Mail Getting fed up with KDE as the years go by and KDE becomes more and more bloatware, I finally decided to bite the bullet, to get rid of KDE and move to a lighter Desktop Environment; the only thing keeping me in KDE was KMail, with over 125 filtering rules I did not relish entering one by one using the Claws-MailGUI. So I looked into how could I speed up the process by working directly on the config files. In KMail, the filter rules are part of ~/.kde4/share/config/kmailrc where each rule is in a paragraph beginning with [FilterN] with N the ID number of the rule. In Claws-Mail, they are in ~/.claws-mail/matcherrc, where each rule occupys one line. Since about 95% of my rules were based on whether a given string was present in either the Subject header, the From header or the whole message, and simply moved the message to a given folder, I have decided to concentrate on those, and do with the GUI the few remaining and more complicated rules. For the rules based on the presence of a string, in KMail each rule has lines for name= (the name of the rule), one or several filedA, fieldB etc lines for Subject, Message, From etc, the same number of contentsA, contentsB etc lines for the strings, an action-args line for the name of the folder, and an action-name=transfer indicating what the rule does; dead simple. In Claws-Mail, each rule line starts with 'enabled rulename "Name Of The Rule"' indicating the rule is active, and called 'Name Of The Rule', then one or several 'subject matchcase "string1"', 'from matchcase "string2"' or 'message matchcase "string3"' that indicate which header to filter on with what string, those being separated by '|' if any condition is sufficient for the rule, and '&' if all conditions must be fulfilled. So I started by making a dummy rule file with the gui, which I then edited using Kwrite; it holds the building blocks I will use for cutting and pasting the rules together, with the addition of strings I will cut and paste from kmailrc : [preglobal] [postglobal] [filtering] enabled rulename "" subject matchcase "" move "#mh/mailmh/" enabled rulename "" from matchcase "" move "#mh/mailmh/" enabled rulename "" message matchcase "" move "#mh/mailmh/" | subject matchcase "" | from matchcase "" | message matchcase "" Mode d'Emploi : Start building your rule with one of the three 'enabled rulename....' segments, depending on whether the first condition of your rule is on Subject, >From or Message. If your rule is on Message Body, Any Header etc adjust to suit. Add | subject..., | from.... and | message... segments to match all the FieldA, FieldB, etc in the Kmail rule, to build the skeleton of the rule. Copy and paste the name, contentsA, B etc. and action-arg strings from kmailrc in their places between the "" in your rule skeleton. And Presto, your rule is done. If your rule depends on all conditions being fulfilled together, replace all the '|' of the rule with '&'. If you want your rule to be case-sensitive, use 'match' instead of 'matchcase'. While a rule in KMail is limited to eight conditions, there does not seem to be any such limitation in Claws-Mail, which means that if you were compelled in KMail to split a rule in several rules doing the same action, you can bring them all together in Claws-Mail. To check for mis-pasted or forgotten strings, search your file for the strings '""' and 'mailmh/"'. Once you have finished editing matcherrc, you will have to restart Claws-Mail for the new filter rules to be taken into account. enabled rulename "test1" subject matchcase "Test2" move "#mh/mailmh/trash" mark_as_read enabled rulename "test2" from matchcase "olgiati" & subject matchcase "test" & subject match "Case Sensitive" & from regexpcase "ABC*" & headers_part matchcase "headers" & body_part matchcase "body" & message matchcase "whole message" delete A quick syntax and vocabulary : enabled | disabled : whether the rule is active or not. rulename "string" : the identifier of the rule. [ from | subject | message | body_part | headers_part ] [match | matchcase | regexpcase ] "string" Where to look for the string, and how (case sensitive, insensitive, regular expression) A tilde ~ at the beginning implies a negation.of the condition. | means OR, & means AND and the two should not AFAIK be mixed in a rule. [move "#mh/mailmh/string" | delete] : move message to the mail folder string, or delete it. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 24 14:17:45 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:17:45 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3644] Fancy renders blank page for most html emails when using shared-mime-info 1.6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3644 --- Comment #10 from Martin Nicholas --- Yep, Fiddling with mime types does indeed nullify the effect of this bug. This is achieved at the expense of another (unknown) program which is now broken in some way. Furthermore, under certain circumstances a link in an HTML mail such as: To the top opens this temporary file in the default (?) browser, rather than the required behaviour of scrolling to the top. A typical user will regard both these behaviours as bugs. Hint: There are no typical users reading this thread. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From dan_arico at aricosystems.com Mon Apr 24 17:16:44 2017 From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 11:16:44 -0400 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170424200420.343da242.edodd55@gmail.com> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170424200420.343da242.edodd55@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20170424111644.3a47100c.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> > Peter wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Using Mail on Kubuntu 16.04.1 and there are LOTS of problems. Has > > anyone on this list changed over from KMail please ? I have looked > > here and there regards docs about this, but doesn't seem > > comprehensive. Or I looked in the wrong places, .. lol > > > > Have installed Claws and it is now looking in my /home/****/Mail > > path, plus added a heap of files. Anyway, I didn't want to get too > > bogged down initially with questions, but if there is a > > KMail/akonadi expert here, would much appreciate it. (I have to > > restart the akonadi server many times each day, ..sigh). > > > > Regards, > > > > Peter > > > > > as a long time claws-mail user I converted my husband's Kmail to > claws-mail because the akonadi server wouldn't start and so on and so > forth. > > I used a script to convert the Kmail mailbox format ready for > Claws-mail and it was excellent. Somewhere on the web site! > > Then I made a few filters and showed him how to make filters and > organise his mail and have provided no further assistance. He is > managing it well without it. > > Liz This is the script I used to do the conversion. I found it on the web. kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.pl Dan Arico -- One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them, One OS to bring them all, and in the Darkness bind them, In the land of Redmond, where the Sales Reps lie. From iwkse at claws-mail.org Mon Apr 24 18:13:02 2017 From: iwkse at claws-mail.org (Salvatore De Paolis) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:13:02 +0200 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170424111644.3a47100c.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170424200420.343da242.edodd55@gmail.com> <20170424111644.3a47100c.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> Message-ID: <20170424181302.7233fbc0@net24.it> Hi Dan, On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 11:16:44 -0400 Dan Arico wrote: > > This is the script I used to do the conversion. I found it on the web. > > kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.pl > > Dan Arico > Well that's a Paul (claws) script and it's in claws mail sources, tools folder -- Salvatore From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 24 18:22:52 2017 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:22:52 +0100 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170424181302.7233fbc0@net24.it> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170424200420.343da242.edodd55@gmail.com> <20170424111644.3a47100c.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20170424181302.7233fbc0@net24.it> Message-ID: <20170424172252.71b84a40@kujata> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:13:02 +0200 Salvatore De Paolis wrote: > Well that's a Paul (claws) script and it's in claws mail sources, > tools folder Yeah, it's listed here: http://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php and downloadable here: http://www.claws-mail.org/tools/claws-mail_kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.tar.gz Good to hear that it is still useful :) with regards Paul From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Mon Apr 24 18:44:10 2017 From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 10:44:10 -0600 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170424111644.3a47100c.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170424200420.343da242.edodd55@gmail.com> <20170424111644.3a47100c.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> Message-ID: <20170424104410.73ba6723@hawk.localdomain> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 11:16:44 -0400 Dan Arico wrote: > This is the script I used to do the conversion. I found it on the web. > > kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.pl For address book conversion, there is also csv2addressbook.pl, also available at the claws tools web page. http://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php -- The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. -- U.S. Const. Amendment IV Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB From bvamundsen at yahoo.com Mon Apr 24 19:08:55 2017 From: bvamundsen at yahoo.com (Brian) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:08:55 -0500 Subject: [Users] HTML Support within Claws-mail Message-ID: <20170424120855.2214e7a1@hicrest1.UGATE2> I understand that claws-mail is intended for text not HTML, but some of my subscribed sites don't offer text only (example FORMED ). So I installed the Fancy plugin and allowed remote content, images, java script, and plugins. However I find that some websites still don't render and instead I end up with a blank preview box. Currently don't have firewall or antimalware running. Is there something I'm forgetting to do, or is Fancy not expected to convert all HTML? It seems the ones encoded with UTF-8 although they are multi-part message in MIME format, always fail. Is this an issue with my webkitgtk build or an issue that fancy only allows 7-bit? Cheers, Brian From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 24 19:07:11 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:07:11 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3815] New: Present available secret GPG keys for selection in account preferences Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3815 Bug ID: 3815 Summary: Present available secret GPG keys for selection in account preferences Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: All OS: All Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/Privacy/PGP Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: andrej at kacian.sk GPGME can be used to get secret key IDs from the keyring, and a GtkComboBoxEntry could be used to make them available for selection. With GtkComboBoxEntry, user can still type the key ID directly. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching the reporter of the bug. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 24 19:08:44 2017 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:08:44 +0100 Subject: [Users] HTML Support within Claws-mail In-Reply-To: <20170424120855.2214e7a1@hicrest1.UGATE2> References: <20170424120855.2214e7a1@hicrest1.UGATE2> Message-ID: <20170424180844.5aced398@kujata> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:08:55 -0500 Brian wrote: > I understand that claws-mail is intended for text not HTML, but > some of my subscribed sites don't offer text only (example FORMED > ). So I installed the Fancy plugin > and allowed remote content, images, java script, and plugins. > However I find that some websites still don't render and instead I > end up with a blank preview box. Currently don't have firewall or > antimalware running. See http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3644 Claws Mail is intended to display html msgs, but not create them. with regards Paul From andrej at kacian.sk Mon Apr 24 19:10:09 2017 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 19:10:09 +0200 Subject: [Users] HTML Support within Claws-mail In-Reply-To: <20170424120855.2214e7a1@hicrest1.UGATE2> References: <20170424120855.2214e7a1@hicrest1.UGATE2> Message-ID: <20170424191009.72c19fcc@penny> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:08:55 -0500 Brian wrote: > I understand that claws-mail is intended for text not HTML, but some of > my subscribed sites don't offer text only (example FORMED > ). So I installed the Fancy plugin > and allowed remote content, images, java script, and plugins. However I > find that some websites still don't render and instead I end up with a > blank preview box. Currently don't have firewall or antimalware > running. > > Is there something I'm forgetting to do, or is Fancy not expected to > convert all HTML? > > It seems the ones encoded with UTF-8 although they are > multi-part message in MIME format, always fail. Is this an issue with > my webkitgtk build or an issue that fancy only allows 7-bit? See http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3644 for a possible reason. Regards, -- Andrej From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 24 21:19:49 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 19:19:49 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3815] Present available secret GPG keys for selection in account preferences In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3815 --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones --- / ) / / ----' (_____ ((__) ((___) ((__) ----.___((_) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching the reporter of the bug. From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com Mon Apr 24 21:45:07 2017 From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:45:07 +0200 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> Message-ID: <20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Dear Peter, On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:40:25 +1000, Peter wrote: > Using Mail on Kubuntu 16.04.1 and there are LOTS of problems. Has > anyone on this list changed over from KMail please ? I have looked > here and there regards docs about this, but doesn't seem > comprehensive. Or I looked in the wrong places, .. lol > > Have installed Claws and it is now looking in my /home/****/Mail > path, plus added a heap of files. Anyway, I didn't want to get too > bogged down initially with questions, but if there is a KMail/akonadi > expert here, would much appreciate it. (I have to restart the > akonadi server many times each day, ..sigh). I was a long-term user of KMail (since at least 2001) on my home computer. When KMail2 came out, I held off on upgrading because of several showstopping bugs I read about on the KDE Bugzilla. Years and years passed and these bugs didn't get fixed; meanwhile I was stuck using an increasingly antiquated operating system (openSUSE 11.4, from 2012) since all newer versions of it packaged only KMail2. Last year I finally broke down and upgraded the OS to the most recent version. Predictably, KMail2 turned out to be a nightmare. Converting my old mail folders was fraught with problems. When I finally got that sorted out, I was bitten by the infamous message duplication bug wherein extra copies of messages would appear whenever the filters were run. None of the workarounds from the dozen or so bug reports worked for me. I had no choice but to switch to another mail client. Though I use Thunderbird at work, its filtering system is underpowered and buggy. Claws Mail seemed to be the only other option. In KMail2, as in KMail, my mail was stored in maildir folders, so the easiest migration path to Claws Mail was to set up a local IMAP server -- Dovecot -- and copy over my maildir folders. I then set up an IMAP account in Claws Mail pointing at the local IMAP server. I couldn't find any way of easily and accurately migrating my KMail(2) filters, so I manually recreated them all in Claws Mail. It took me a while to get the hang of Claws Mail's filters and actions. The only thing that I haven't been able to migrate to my satisfaction is the address book. KMail2 gets the address book from KAddressbook, which uses vCards. But Claws Mail supports neither vCards nor CalDAV servers -- at least not very well. I did manage to export the KAddressbook entries and import them into Claws Mail, but almost all the fields other than the name and e-mail address were lost. At this point, I'm waiting either for better vCard/CalDAV support in Claws Mail (in which case I'll consider my migration to Claws Mail complete), or for KMail2 to fix their mail duplication bug, in which case I might switch back to KMail2. Regards, Tristan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tristan Miller Free Software developer, ferret herder, logologist https://logological.org/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Mon Apr 24 22:02:51 2017 From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 14:02:51 -0600 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Message-ID: <20170424140251.3f00e1e4@hawk.localdomain> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:45:07 +0200 Tristan Miller wrote: > The only thing that I haven't been able to migrate to my satisfaction > is the address book. Have you tried csv2addressbook.pl? http://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php -- The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. -- U.S. Const. Amendment IV Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com Mon Apr 24 22:04:37 2017 From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:04:37 +0200 Subject: [Users] Opening mailto: links with Claws Mail in KDE Message-ID: <20170424220437.07173b12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Greetings. Apropos of the recent thread on using Claws Mail instead of KMail, does anyone know how to get recent versions of KDE to open mailto: links in Claws Mail instead of KMail? This is supposed to be accomplished by launching System Settings, selecting Default Applications->Email Client->Use a different email client, and then entering "claws-mail %u" in the input box. However, this setting doesn't work. The system opens all mailto: links in KMail even when "Use a different email client" is selected. There is a longstanding bug report for this issue at . Does anyone here know of a workaround, short of uninstalling KMail? (Maybe I could symlink /usr/bin/kmail to /usr/bin/claws-mail, though that would get overwritten every time KMail is upgraded.) Regards, Tristan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tristan Miller Free Software developer, ferret herder, logologist https://logological.org/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Rather than remove KMail, you /could/ try renaming the binary. That way, KDE shouldn't be able to find it, hopefully. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" I must be hallucinating, watching angels celebrating There Must Be An Angel (Playing With My Heart) - Eurythmics -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 488 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Mon Apr 24 22:54:35 2017 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron)) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:54:35 -0400 Subject: [Users] Opening mailto: links with Claws Mail in KDE In-Reply-To: <20170424220437.07173b12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> References: <20170424220437.07173b12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Message-ID: <20170424165435.73a5ae33@ron.cerrocora.org> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:04:37 +0200 Tristan Miller wrote: > Apropos of the recent thread on using Claws Mail instead of KMail, does > anyone know how to get recent versions of KDE to open mailto: links in > Claws Mail instead of KMail? Possible (horrible) bodge: - Remove Kmail - Creat in /usr/bin/ a link /usr/bin/kmail pointing to /usr/bin/claws-mail Cheers, Ron. -- If I had better tools, I could more effectively demonstrate my total incompetence. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From andrej at kacian.sk Mon Apr 24 23:01:56 2017 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 23:01:56 +0200 Subject: [Users] Opening mailto: links with Claws Mail in KDE In-Reply-To: <20170424215048.655a1a60@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20170424220437.07173b12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20170424215048.655a1a60@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20170424230156.2b01d834@penny> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:50:48 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: > I was going to say "Works for me", but reading further I see that's only > the case because I don't have KMail installed (I never have). I'd like to say "Works for me, even with kmail installed". I am using KDE 5.28 on Debian Testing, and following command in systemsettings: claws-mail --compose "%u" Version of my (totally unused and unusable) kmail: $ kmail --version kmail2 5.2.3 HTH, -- Andrej -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From geek at uniserve.com Tue Apr 25 00:04:43 2017 From: geek at uniserve.com (Dave Stevens) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 15:04:43 -0700 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Message-ID: <20170424150443.65e6f629@user-Satellite-A100> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:45:07 +0200 Tristan Miller wrote: > Dear Peter, > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:40:25 +1000, Peter > wrote: > > Using Mail on Kubuntu 16.04.1 and there are LOTS of problems. Has > > anyone on this list changed over from KMail please ? I have looked > > here and there regards docs about this, but doesn't seem > > comprehensive. Or I looked in the wrong places, .. lol well my experiences parallel yours. I loved kmail when it was first released, got stuck in KM2 from an upgrade and had to divert my attention into akonadi maintenance when I would rather have had a simple mail client. Claws fits me just so, a nice simple predictable pop client, all I want really. Dave -- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to simplistic questions. ----- Ursula Le Guin From bvamundsen at yahoo.com Tue Apr 25 00:33:54 2017 From: bvamundsen at yahoo.com (Brian) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:33:54 -0500 Subject: [Users] SOLVED - HTML Support within Claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20170424173354.72c19675@hicrest1.UGATE2> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:51:00 +0200 users-request at lists.claws-mail.org wrote: . . > From: Paul > To: users at lists.claws-mail.org > Subject: Re: [Users] HTML Support within Claws-mail > Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:08:44 +0100 > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:08:55 -0500 > Brian wrote: > > ... > > However I find that some websites still don't render and instead I > > end up with a blank preview box. Currently don't have firewall or > > antimalware running. > > > See > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3644 > > Claws Mail is intended to display html msgs, but not create them. > > with regards > > Paul > > > From: Andrej Kacian > To: users at lists.claws-mail.org > Subject: Re: [Users] HTML Support within Claws-mail > Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 19:10:09 +0200 > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:08:55 -0500 > Brian wrote: > > > ...So I installed the Fancy plugin > > and allowed remote content, images, java script, and plugins. > > However I find that some websites still don't render and instead I > > end up with a blank preview box. ... > See > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3644 > for a possible reason. > > Regards, Problem solved by following the solution suggested in the attached links. . . -------------------------------------- Pax tecum, absit iniuria; Brian Addendum: A: Because it makes understanding the conversation harder! Q: What is wrong with top replying? From silver.bullet at zoho.com Tue Apr 25 00:42:01 2017 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 00:42:01 +0200 Subject: [Users] HTML Support within Claws-mail In-Reply-To: <20170424120855.2214e7a1@hicrest1.UGATE2> References: <20170424120855.2214e7a1@hicrest1.UGATE2> Message-ID: <20170425004201.605086c5@utnubu> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:08:55 -0500, Brian wrote: >I find that some websites still don't render and instead I end up with >a blank preview box. Here Claws is set up to display only plain text. Some HTML only mails show an empty preview, unless I click the small HTML icon on the right vertical bar. From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Tue Apr 25 00:48:34 2017 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron)) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:48:34 -0400 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170424150443.65e6f629@user-Satellite-A100> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20170424150443.65e6f629@user-Satellite-A100> Message-ID: <20170424184834.110a25fd@ron.cerrocora.org> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 15:04:43 -0700 Dave Stevens wrote: > > Using Mail on Kubuntu 16.04.1 and there are LOTS of problems. Has > > anyone on this list changed over from KMail please ? I have looked > > here and there regards docs about this, but doesn't seem > > comprehensive. Or I looked in the wrong places, .. lol > well my experiences parallel yours. I loved kmail when it was first > released, got stuck in KM2 from an upgrade and had to divert my > attention into akonadi maintenance when I would rather have had a simple > mail client. Claws fits me just so, a nice simple predictable pop > client, all I want really. Similar for me: was very pleased to find Kmail when I switched from Windows to Mandrake Linux in the late nineties, as it was very similar then to Eudora I had run under Win95. Later, as KDE became more and more bloated, it was only Kmail that kept me from moving to something lighter, which I finally did five years ago, and started using Claws-Mail. Wonder how many of us here are old Eudora users... Cheers, Ron. -- You can't fall off the floor. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Tue Apr 25 00:50:12 2017 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron)) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:50:12 -0400 Subject: [Users] HTML Support within Claws-mail In-Reply-To: <20170424120855.2214e7a1@hicrest1.UGATE2> References: <20170424120855.2214e7a1@hicrest1.UGATE2> Message-ID: <20170424185012.0710c60a@ron.cerrocora.org> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:08:55 -0500 Brian wrote: > I find that some websites still don't render and instead I end up with a > blank preview box. Currently don't have firewall or antimalware > running. Claws-Mail is an email client, not a web browser... Cheers, Ron. -- You can't fall off the floor. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From geek at uniserve.com Tue Apr 25 00:59:19 2017 From: geek at uniserve.com (Dave Stevens) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 15:59:19 -0700 Subject: [Users] longer term stats? Message-ID: <20170424155919.34c0a162@user-Satellite-A100> In 3.13.2 when I click help -> about and the statistics tab I get stats for this session only. Is there a specifier for longer periods? Dave -- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to simplistic questions. ----- Ursula Le Guin From geek at uniserve.com Tue Apr 25 01:00:47 2017 From: geek at uniserve.com (Dave Stevens) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:00:47 -0700 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170424184834.110a25fd@ron.cerrocora.org> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20170424150443.65e6f629@user-Satellite-A100> <20170424184834.110a25fd@ron.cerrocora.org> Message-ID: <20170424160047.5b073666@user-Satellite-A100> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:48:34 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > predictable pop client, all I want really. > > Similar for me: was very pleased to find Kmail when I switched from > Windows to Mandrake Linux in the late nineties, as it was very > similar then to Eudora I had run under Win95. > > Later, as KDE became more and more bloated, it was only Kmail that > kept me from moving to something lighter, which I finally did five > years ago, and started using Claws-Mail. > > Wonder how many of us here are old Eudora users... well, me for one d > > Cheers, > > Ron. -- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to simplistic questions. ----- Ursula Le Guin From silver.bullet at zoho.com Tue Apr 25 01:01:57 2017 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 01:01:57 +0200 Subject: [Users] HTML Support within Claws-mail In-Reply-To: <20170424185012.0710c60a@ron.cerrocora.org> References: <20170424120855.2214e7a1@hicrest1.UGATE2> <20170424185012.0710c60a@ron.cerrocora.org> Message-ID: <20170425010157.6a85e438@utnubu> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:50:12 -0400, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: >On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:08:55 -0500 >Brian wrote: > >> I find that some websites still don't render and instead I end up ^^^^^^^^ >> with a blank preview box. Currently don't have firewall or >> antimalware running. > >Claws-Mail is an email client, not a web browser... Oops, I read "mails" instead of "websites". Indeed, some "mails" are quasi just remote content, if so, then even Claws set up to display only plain text works, by clicking the remote content link, since then automagically a web browser opens. From m8il1ists at gmail.com Tue Apr 25 02:08:38 2017 From: m8il1ists at gmail.com (Kevin Chadwick) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 01:08:38 +0100 Subject: [Users] HTML Support within Claws-mail In-Reply-To: <20170424185012.0710c60a@ron.cerrocora.org> References: <20170424120855.2214e7a1@hicrest1.UGATE2> <20170424185012.0710c60a@ron.cerrocora.org> Message-ID: <20170425010838.76a9df0a@mechanicum.chadwicks.me.uk> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:50:12 -0400 > > I find that some websites still don't render and instead I end up > > with a blank preview box. Currently don't have firewall or > > antimalware running. > > Claws-Mail is an email client, not a web browser... Indeed, despite being the norm (and the reason for breaches at even Google) browsing web pages especially including javascript that are chosen by anonymous random strangers, is asking for trouble or atleast a slow machine. Companies that send html are viewed dimly by me. From pf at pfortin.com Tue Apr 25 02:39:32 2017 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:39:32 -0400 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170424184834.110a25fd@ron.cerrocora.org> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20170424150443.65e6f629@user-Satellite-A100> <20170424184834.110a25fd@ron.cerrocora.org> Message-ID: <20170424203932.2d83bac2@pfortin.com> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:48:34 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: >Wonder how many of us here are old Eudora users... From 1988 when Steve Dorner made it available on Macs until a few years after 1991 when he sold it to Qualcomm, and support started to decline. From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Tue Apr 25 02:29:07 2017 From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter Richards) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:29:07 +1000 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170424032229.072a0155@mydesk.domain.cxm> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170424032229.072a0155@mydesk.domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20170425102907.089e7096@peter-Inspiron-3542> Hi Steve, Thanks for your reply, and sharing your story. Thanks to all the other people who replied. It is very overcast here, and I dont even have enough power to run/recharge a laptop, lol I'll reply in more detail,once the weather improves. Am definitely serious about making the shift from KMail, especially akonadi. Need to know some basic akonadi commands to get into the db and extract everything, Hopefully in the same folder heirarcy as the Kmail folder heirarchy. My apologies if someone has already done so, in the other messages. Someone may already have supplied some tips there, but only 200 watts coming in off the panels, so have to turn the laptop off. lol Regards, Peter PS Steve - some of those products you mentioned remended me of the days with Pegasus mail, and the tools we used with it. Some name like uucp I think ?? On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 03:22:29 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:40:25 +1000, Peter > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Using Mail on Kubuntu 16.04.1 and there are LOTS of problems. Has > > anyone on this list changed over from KMail please ? I have looked .. snip ... From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Tue Apr 25 04:22:19 2017 From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:22:19 -0600 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170425102907.089e7096@peter-Inspiron-3542> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170424032229.072a0155@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20170425102907.089e7096@peter-Inspiron-3542> Message-ID: <20170424202219.1beb051d@hawk.localdomain> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:29:07 +1000 Peter Richards wrote: > Some name like > uucp I think ?? uucp! First kmail, now uucp. What's next, Stonehenge? :-) -- The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. -- U.S. Const. Amendment IV Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB From cjk at teamcharliesangels.com Tue Apr 25 05:00:49 2017 From: cjk at teamcharliesangels.com (Charlie Kravetz) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:00:49 -0700 Subject: [Users] Opening mailto: links with Claws Mail in KDE In-Reply-To: <20170424220437.07173b12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> References: <20170424220437.07173b12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Message-ID: <20170424200049.3c5c00a5@whynot.keepingdreams.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:04:37 +0200 Tristan Miller wrote: >Greetings. > >Apropos of the recent thread on using Claws Mail instead of KMail, does >anyone know how to get recent versions of KDE to open mailto: links in >Claws Mail instead of KMail? > >This is supposed to be accomplished by launching System Settings, >selecting Default Applications->Email Client->Use a different >email client, and then entering "claws-mail %u" in the input box. > >However, this setting doesn't work. The system opens all mailto: links >in KMail even when "Use a different email client" is selected. > >There is a longstanding bug report for this issue at >. Does anyone here know >of a workaround, short of uninstalling KMail? (Maybe I could >symlink /usr/bin/kmail to /usr/bin/claws-mail, though that would get >overwritten every time KMail is upgraded.) > >Regards, >Tristan > I use a short bash program to this in Firefox. Make sure it is in the path or it will fail. #!/bin/bash # ## Tell Firefox what you've done. ## Go to the Applications tab in the Preferences dialog ## When you select 'mailto' in the Content Type column on the left, ## you'll see a drop-down list in the Action column on the right. ## ## Choose Use other... and a window opens in which you can select a ## helper application (third screenshot). Navigate in this window to ## the folder where you put mailto.sh, select mailto.sh and choose Open. ## ## Now when choosing to send an email through firefox, claws-mail will ## open with the 'TO:' filled in ## ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- # claws-mail --compose "$1" - -- Charlie Kravetz Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEG5QK93YKrQMH22ZTiq6LjqbJ0IAFAlj+u+EACgkQiq6LjqbJ 0ICNxQf9GTi+Ewr1DZ4hHtgGgx6CQ0pDdWfFJUux/73krW0m4/p9OGxFfRd8wMRP QQIusjU3JXyi3dfUbysUYVbCHjiIHir2N5mCGhmDQJ8Moo8gwsM/hLmg/AKgG3QT LXf0Pp8+yrhQOWcMdveFTx/bIdLySlwv57ARw6+KarEhZG9M6nNYa4XT7gAWywl8 2Usew24MpRWpvtvpVE6Amh6uB/4NiRKPnaENhhL62T2XFOLG3hxJJNUVJneIi7Iw Zu3lh/RUqoq32ehJqNDxO5jwmPkQNCQkKcHdCHwhbIyy8YVXh62+66LdtaXIl7iy Gw8rYo2umTQrLwp8DairnGQj71CZfg== =HcHl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com Tue Apr 25 09:46:40 2017 From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:46:40 +0200 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170425102907.089e7096@peter-Inspiron-3542> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170424032229.072a0155@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20170425102907.089e7096@peter-Inspiron-3542> Message-ID: <20170425094640.5d3286ff.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Dear Peter, On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:29:07 +1000, Peter Richards wrote: > Need to know some basic akonadi commands to get into the db and > extract everything, Hopefully in the same folder heirarcy as the > Kmail folder heirarchy. My apologies if someone has already done so, > in the other messages. That might not be necessary -- my KMail and KMail2 kept mail in maildir (formerly mbox) format in ~/Mail. IIRC Akonadi was used only for indexing (though it probably did keep an entire copy of all my mails in a database). Perhaps setups vary, but if yours is like mine, then you can just migrate the maildir folders/mbox files using standard tools and forget about the Akonadi database. 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Every time the package manager does an upgrade, it's probably going to overwrite /usr/bin/kmail (or worse yet, the link target) with the new version of KMail from the RPM. Regards, Tristan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tristan Miller Free Software developer, ferret herder, logologist https://logological.org/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com Tue Apr 25 10:12:17 2017 From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:12:17 +0200 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170424140251.3f00e1e4@hawk.localdomain> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20170424140251.3f00e1e4@hawk.localdomain> Message-ID: <20170425101217.0f6c207a.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Greetings. On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 14:02:51 -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:45:07 +0200 > Tristan Miller wrote: > > > The only thing that I haven't been able to migrate to my > > satisfaction is the address book. > > Have you tried csv2addressbook.pl? http://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php I have. As far as I can tell, it hasn't been updated since 2008 and doesn't work with CSV files exported by recent versions of KAddressbook: $ ./csv2addressbook.pl --type=kmail --csv=/tmp/addressbook.csv ERROR: Invalid field count! Problem with your exported CSV file The best I was able to do was to export to LDIF from KAddressbook and then use Claws Mail's native LDIF importer. As I mentioned before, this imported the names and e-mail addresses, but nothing else. Now I'm living in synchronization hell, where I am manually maintaining both the Claws Mail and KAddressbook address books. (I am not sure I want to manually migrate the rest of the address book data to Claws Mail, as the interface is a lot clunkier.) What I really want is CardDAV support, as this means I won't need to maintain and synchronize my address book across mail clients or machines. Instead I can just keep a single address book running on a Radicale server on my always-on Raspberry Pi, and connect to it from any CardDAV-capable mail client. Regards, Tristan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tristan Miller Free Software developer, ferret herder, logologist https://logological.org/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com Tue Apr 25 10:27:15 2017 From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:27:15 +0200 Subject: [Users] Opening mailto: links with Claws Mail in KDE In-Reply-To: <20170424230156.2b01d834@penny> References: <20170424220437.07173b12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20170424215048.655a1a60@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20170424230156.2b01d834@penny> Message-ID: <20170425102715.54adb80c.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Greetings. On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 23:01:56 +0200, Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:50:48 +0100 > Brad Rogers wrote: > > > I was going to say "Works for me", but reading further I see that's > > only the case because I don't have KMail installed (I never have). > > I'd like to say "Works for me, even with kmail installed". I am using > KDE 5.28 on Debian Testing, and following command in systemsettings: > > claws-mail --compose "%u" Fascinating. Does it work even when you use kde-open from the command line, as follows? $ kde-open mailto:test at example.com If even this works, I wonder if Debian might have patched the bug in their own packages, in which case it needs to be applied upstream... Regards, Tristan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tristan Miller Free Software developer, ferret herder, logologist https://logological.org/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From slitt at troubleshooters.com Tue Apr 25 12:07:18 2017 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 06:07:18 -0400 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170424203932.2d83bac2@pfortin.com> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20170424150443.65e6f629@user-Satellite-A100> <20170424184834.110a25fd@ron.cerrocora.org> <20170424203932.2d83bac2@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20170425060718.6b285684@mydesk.domain.cxm> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:39:32 -0400, Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:48:34 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > > >Wonder how many of us here are old Eudora users... > > From 1988 when Steve Dorner made it available on Macs until a few > years after 1991 when he sold it to Qualcomm, and support started to > decline. > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users Hi, I used Eudora when I was on Windows plus Internet: 1996-2000. I liked it, but when I tried it again on Linux around 2010, well, let's just say it wasn't nearly as good as I remember. SteveT From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com Tue Apr 25 12:31:16 2017 From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 12:31:16 +0200 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170425060718.6b285684@mydesk.domain.cxm> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20170424150443.65e6f629@user-Satellite-A100> <20170424184834.110a25fd@ron.cerrocora.org> <20170424203932.2d83bac2@pfortin.com> <20170425060718.6b285684@mydesk.domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20170425123116.63fdc3cc.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Dear Steve, On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 06:07:18 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > I used Eudora when I was on Windows plus Internet: 1996-2000. I liked > it, but when I tried it again on Linux around 2010, well, let's just > say it wasn't nearly as good as I remember. Wine ought to be able to run all the old versions of Eudora you know and love. ;) I only wish there were some way of running KMail 1 on recent versions of KDE. I've tried compiling it myself but there are too many incompatible dependencies. Regards, Tristan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tristan Miller Free Software developer, ferret herder, logologist https://logological.org/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Tue Apr 25 13:43:06 2017 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron)) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 07:43:06 -0400 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170425123116.63fdc3cc.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20170424150443.65e6f629@user-Satellite-A100> <20170424184834.110a25fd@ron.cerrocora.org> <20170424203932.2d83bac2@pfortin.com> <20170425060718.6b285684@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20170425123116.63fdc3cc.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Message-ID: <20170425074306.2511dc35@ron.cerrocora.org> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 12:31:16 +0200 Tristan Miller wrote: > I only wish there were some way of running KMail 1 on recent versions of KDE. What is the point, now that you have claws-mail ? Cheers, Ron. -- America, you may call this an election, but the rest of the world is viewing this as your I.Q. test. And it is not looking good. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Tue Apr 25 14:25:50 2017 From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 06:25:50 -0600 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170425101217.0f6c207a.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20170424140251.3f00e1e4@hawk.localdomain> <20170425101217.0f6c207a.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Message-ID: <20170425062550.0215850e@jhegaala.localdomain> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:12:17 +0200 Tristan Miller wrote: > $ ./csv2addressbook.pl --type=kmail --csv=/tmp/addressbook.csv > ERROR: > Invalid field count! > Problem with your exported CSV file Hmmm, well, you *may* be able to fix that. It depends on how comfortable you are doing some perl hacking, and what changes the kmail folks made since 2008. And, just in case, whether you have a complete backup of your .claws-mail/addrbook/ directory. If all they did was create new columns to the right of the ones csv2addressbook.pl knows about, you can add the new ones to the array @kmail_fields. csv is a plain text file format, so you should be able to copy and paste, and maybe do a bit of editing. -- The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. -- U.S. Const. Amendment IV Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com Tue Apr 25 15:37:20 2017 From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:37:20 +0200 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170425074306.2511dc35@ron.cerrocora.org> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20170424150443.65e6f629@user-Satellite-A100> <20170424184834.110a25fd@ron.cerrocora.org> <20170424203932.2d83bac2@pfortin.com> <20170425060718.6b285684@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20170425123116.63fdc3cc.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20170425074306.2511dc35@ron.cerrocora.org> Message-ID: <20170425153720.5490645d.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Greetings. On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 07:43:06 -0400, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 12:31:16 +0200 > Tristan Miller wrote: > > > I only wish there were some way of running KMail 1 on recent > > versions of KDE. > > What is the point, now that you have claws-mail ? Support for CalDAV, and much better support for vCard. Better integration with the desktop environment (such as using the system default applications to open attachments) and with other KDE-universe applications such as KGpg, KWallet, KOrganizer, and KAddressbook. Full-text search of e-mails. I'm sure there are a few more features I'm forgetting. Regards, Tristan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tristan Miller Free Software developer, ferret herder, logologist https://logological.org/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From cjk at teamcharliesangels.com Tue Apr 25 15:43:02 2017 From: cjk at teamcharliesangels.com (Charlie Kravetz) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 06:43:02 -0700 Subject: [Users] Opening mailto: links with Claws Mail in KDE In-Reply-To: <20170425102715.54adb80c.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> References: <20170424220437.07173b12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20170424215048.655a1a60@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20170424230156.2b01d834@penny> <20170425102715.54adb80c.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Message-ID: <20170425064302.2ea33ce9@whynot.keepingdreams.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:27:15 +0200 Tristan Miller wrote: >Greetings. > >On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 23:01:56 +0200, Andrej Kacian > wrote: >> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:50:48 +0100 >> Brad Rogers wrote: >> >> > I was going to say "Works for me", but reading further I see that's >> > only the case because I don't have KMail installed (I never have). >> >> I'd like to say "Works for me, even with kmail installed". I am using >> KDE 5.28 on Debian Testing, and following command in systemsettings: >> >> claws-mail --compose "%u" > >Fascinating. Does it work even when you use kde-open from the command >line, as follows? > >$ kde-open mailto:test at example.com > >If even this works, I wonder if Debian might have patched the bug in >their own packages, in which case it needs to be applied upstream... > >Regards, >Tristan > No, it won't work unless kde-open is using firefox. - -- Charlie Kravetz Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEG5QK93YKrQMH22ZTiq6LjqbJ0IAFAlj/UmYACgkQiq6LjqbJ 0IBdPwgAuXhzB7rKvFMJcvqWZ6aGZPL3Hium0He2wI27ztV6nRrxjddwXCj/SDU6 7kSW1WnEYgTnBlt6MB0n1ATkmwMaB/kBCb22s2xLfpNVUGAoDLJh9ISTVqCrhHcD TzZQn/lZU+bErHm4Q7/Pu/Y9cDmMlUDj++yTwLE+ucjUm/Pj+/M7rpDdEgCxb/Gr WV9+9EINKiy5YMg2zSRyYV48t5/bQmO4maoHyFmg/HyR2TT1jlTotS+NhyZ3v6fZ EgY9uceOzTagOXAhFEZyMDoMqKeGWpTmRZIA42olookRzvFL+fXbXn61OV6fRpOB 01/ssY5+hp0+4zXmwsNEZzQ6C0Z30w== =y/ne -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ewahl at osc.edu Tue Apr 25 15:46:47 2017 From: ewahl at osc.edu (Edward Wahl) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:46:47 -0400 Subject: [Users] longer term stats? In-Reply-To: <20170424155919.34c0a162@user-Satellite-A100> References: <20170424155919.34c0a162@user-Satellite-A100> Message-ID: <20170425094647.05967f62@osc.edu> Appears to be "session" based. How long are your sessions lasting? Session statistics Started: 02/08/2017(Wed) 10:42 Incoming traffic Received messages: 10557 Outgoing traffic New/redirected messages: 55 Replied messages: 242 Forwarded messages: 31 Total outgoing messages: 328 Ed On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 15:59:19 -0700 Dave Stevens wrote: > In 3.13.2 when I click help -> about and the statistics tab I get stats > for this session only. Is there a specifier for longer periods? > > Dave > > -- Ed Wahl Ohio Supercomputer Center 614-292-9302 From ghaverla at materialisations.com Tue Apr 25 16:06:13 2017 From: ghaverla at materialisations.com (Gordon Haverland) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 07:06:13 -0700 Subject: [Users] longer term stats? In-Reply-To: <20170425094647.05967f62@osc.edu> References: <20170424155919.34c0a162@user-Satellite-A100> <20170425094647.05967f62@osc.edu> Message-ID: <20170425070613.19f7db57@newmain2.materia> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:46:47 -0400 Edward Wahl wrote: > Appears to be "session" based. > > How long are your sessions lasting? Session statistics Started: 12/02/17(Sun) 18:23 Incoming traffic Received messages: 4483 Outgoing traffic New/redirected messages: 131 Replied messages: 132 Forwarded messages: 1 Total outgoing messages: 264 Gord From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com Tue Apr 25 16:10:36 2017 From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 16:10:36 +0200 Subject: [Users] Opening mailto: links with Claws Mail in KDE In-Reply-To: <20170425064302.2ea33ce9@whynot.keepingdreams.org> References: <20170424220437.07173b12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20170424215048.655a1a60@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20170424230156.2b01d834@penny> <20170425102715.54adb80c.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20170425064302.2ea33ce9@whynot.keepingdreams.org> Message-ID: <20170425161036.4c58488e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Dear Charlie, On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 06:43:02 -0700, Charlie Kravetz wrote: > On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:27:15 +0200 > Tristan Miller wrote: > >On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 23:01:56 +0200, Andrej Kacian > > wrote: > >> I'd like to say "Works for me, even with kmail installed". I am > >> using KDE 5.28 on Debian Testing, and following command in > >> systemsettings: > >> > >> claws-mail --compose "%u" > > > >Fascinating. Does it work even when you use kde-open from the > >command line, as follows? > > > >$ kde-open mailto:test at example.com > > No, it won't work unless kde-open is using firefox. What do you mean by that? kde-open, like xdg-open, is a DE-level file handler that gets called when you open a file or follow a link from an arbitrary KDE application. For mailto: links, it's supposed to invoke the command you selected in System Settings. You can't simultaneously set this entry to "claws-mail" and "firefox". If you set it to "firefox", then mailto: links will supposedly* open in Firefox. But this is an extremely silly thing to do, since Firefox is not a mail client. (Anyway, how do you know what does and doesn't work on Andrej's computer?) Regards, Tristan * Supposedly because, as I've mentioned, there's a bug that causes KDE to ignore the setting, and open all mailto: links in KMail anyway. Andrej claims that he's not affected by this bug, so I'm just trying to double-check that this is because the underlying kde-open really is working properly. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tristan Miller Free Software developer, ferret herder, logologist https://logological.org/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com Tue Apr 25 16:16:39 2017 From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 16:16:39 +0200 Subject: [Users] Opening mailto: links with Claws Mail in KDE In-Reply-To: <20170424200049.3c5c00a5@whynot.keepingdreams.org> References: <20170424220437.07173b12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20170424200049.3c5c00a5@whynot.keepingdreams.org> Message-ID: <20170425161639.1e9cb402.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Dear Charlie, On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:00:49 -0700, Charlie Kravetz wrote: > I use a short bash program to this in Firefox. Make sure it is in the > path or it will fail. No doubt this works fine for following mailto: links within Firefox, but it doesn't solve the problem generally. There are plenty of other applications in which one might encounter mailto: links (RSS aggregators, instant messaging clients, PDF readers, other web browsers, etc.). Regards, Tristan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tristan Miller Free Software developer, ferret herder, logologist https://logological.org/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Wed Apr 26 01:29:18 2017 From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:29:18 +1000 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170425094640.5d3286ff.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170425102907.089e7096@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170425094640.5d3286ff.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Message-ID: <2303002.bH4VqSo2qb@peter-asus64> Hi Tristan, On Tuesday, 25 April 2017 9:46:40 AM AEST Tristan Miller wrote: > Dear Peter, > > On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:29:07 +1000, Peter Richards > > wrote: > > Need to know some basic akonadi commands to get into the db and > > extract everything, Hopefully in the same folder heirarcy as the > > Kmail folder heirarchy. My apologies if someone has already done so, > > in the other messages. > > That might not be necessary -- my KMail and KMail2 kept mail in maildir > (formerly mbox) format in ~/Mail. IIRC Akonadi was used only for > indexing (though it probably did keep an entire copy of all my mails in > a database). Perhaps setups vary, but if yours is like mine, then you > can just migrate the maildir folders/mbox files using standard tools > and forget about the Akonadi database. I would love to completely forget about akonadi, but after checking just one folder, unfortunately need to get into that db, or at the least synchronise things. I checked one folder in KMail and it shows 49 messages. Counted them, and got 49. Then had a look at the file system and there are only 43 messages. So if I simply use the file structure, there is the risk of loosing messages. :( Regards, Peter From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Wed Apr 26 01:34:02 2017 From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:34:02 +1000 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170424111644.3a47100c.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170424200420.343da242.edodd55@gmail.com> <20170424111644.3a47100c.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> Message-ID: <2712204.3ONvUedYTN@peter-asus64> Hi Dan, On Monday, 24 April 2017 11:16:44 AM AEST Dan Arico wrote: > This is the script I used to do the conversion. I found it on the web. > > kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.pl Thanks for that script; have downloaded it. :) Regards, Peter From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Wed Apr 26 01:39:03 2017 From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:39:03 +1000 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170424172252.71b84a40@kujata> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170424181302.7233fbc0@net24.it> <20170424172252.71b84a40@kujata> Message-ID: <3159082.2FuXojymM4@peter-asus64> Hi Paul, On Monday, 24 April 2017 5:22:52 PM AEST Paul wrote: > On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:13:02 +0200 > > Salvatore De Paolis wrote: > > Well that's a Paul (claws) script and it's in claws mail sources, > > tools folder > > Yeah, it's listed here: http://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php and > downloadable here: > http://www.claws-mail.org/tools/claws-mail_kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.tar.gz Thanks for your script. Does the script handle hidden files and directories ? KMail's std structure is if I have a folder named 'Family & Friends' and have many underneath that folder, there is hidden paths like .. .Family & Friends.directory ----Browne, Jim ----Smith, Betty I did notice Claws only saw paths that weren't hidden. Regards, Peter From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Wed Apr 26 01:45:14 2017 From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:45:14 +1000 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170424075844.2a604860@ron.cerrocora.org> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170424075844.2a604860@ron.cerrocora.org> Message-ID: <2105336.vBNHjYJVkx@peter-asus64> Hi Renaud, On Monday, 24 April 2017 7:58:44 AM AEST Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:40:25 +1000 > > Peter wrote: > > Using Mail on Kubuntu 16.04.1 and there are LOTS of problems. Has anyone > > on > > this list changed over from KMail please ? I have looked here and there > > regards docs about this, but doesn't seem comprehensive. Or I looked in > > the > > wrong places, .. lol > > Reposting what I sent to various lists in 2012 (KDE, Claws-mail, Mageia) > > First open Kmail, "un-tree" any folder that is inside another folder, and bring them up to the "Local folders" level. Then compact all folders (or deleted mails will re-appear). Thanks for your instructions. I would not be in a position to 'un-tree' folders. Whilst the number of emails is only about 62,000 and 3.7 Gb, there are 2488 sub-folders. Regards, Peter From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Wed Apr 26 01:53:01 2017 From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:53:01 +1000 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Message-ID: <6947239.xCjCHCDYMS@peter-asus64> Hi Tristan, On Monday, 24 April 2017 9:45:07 PM AEST Tristan Miller wrote: > In KMail2, as in KMail, my mail was stored in maildir folders, so the > easiest migration path to Claws Mail was to set up a local IMAP server > -- Dovecot -- and copy over my maildir folders. I then set up an IMAP > account in Claws Mail pointing at the local IMAP server. Quite a number of people on this list have suggested a Dovecot server. I notice the server on our website is Dovecot. I'm not sure I want to go through the learning curve there though to set one up locally. The 'mess' that has resulted from akonadi makes that db not equal to what I see on the file system at present. Trying to hunt for tools to look at the MySQL db in a sensible view. By that I mean to export all emails from akonadi in a structured layout, the same as the KMail folder heirarchy. Then to use Beyond compare to see what is missing, extra,etc, from what is sitting on the file system. Regards, Peter From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Wed Apr 26 02:17:08 2017 From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 10:17:08 +1000 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <6947239.xCjCHCDYMS@peter-asus64> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <6947239.xCjCHCDYMS@peter-asus64> Message-ID: <6230652.W1o1I0HrzP@peter-asus64> Hi, Just some questions please .... 1. Does anyone know what commands to issue to akonadi, to get a 'structured' dump of everything. By structured, I mean that the resultant files will sit within the same heirarchy as they appear now under KMail. There is a little bit hare on akonadi, but not much: https://techbase.kde.org/KDE_PIM/Akonadi/Development_Tools 2. Have been looking at other tools to view/dump the akonadi data; a list at http://www.databasejournal.com/features/mysql/slideshows/top-10-mysql-gui-tools.html Have installed workbench as it is developed by Sun. Whether it can get the akonadi rows out in the preferred format, ..hmm. 3. I prefer to do a complete/fresh install of Kubuntu, as upgrades sometimes don't go too well. Apart from the obvious file structure with Claws, are the config/setup type files easy to find/backup/restore. Any other 'gotchas' in regards to moving Claws to another computer ?? 4. With KMail, I can add/delete files to the file system (KMail structure) and can then use the new file/s in KMail. It's dynamic. But I see when I drop a (KMail - long name) file in a box/folder within Claws, it isn't 'seen' by Claws ? Maybe this is just the next question .. 5. Filenames. KMail defaults to the (very long) names as displayed from the Dovecot server on our site, or for sent mails, it creates a new name (e.g. 1239778504.6557.B8ueO:2,RS ) I notice Claws starts at 1,2,3, ... Is there a setting in config. regards the naming convention, or is that just how it is ? I guess it's a matter of adjusting, .. seeing the long names for years, ..lol I know Beyond Compare doesn't like copying the long names across the network, so if I have to move emails across the network, have to tar first. I assume the Claws naing convention will actually be easier. When I get everying out of akonadi, I was hoping to use Beyond Compare to check what is in the akonadi db to what is in the file system. But BC relies on the same filename. :) Regards, Peter From slitt at troubleshooters.com Wed Apr 26 02:20:57 2017 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 20:20:57 -0400 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <6947239.xCjCHCDYMS@peter-asus64> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170424214507.6228428e.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <6947239.xCjCHCDYMS@peter-asus64> Message-ID: <20170425202057.44a7cbe5@mydesk.domain.cxm> On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:53:01 +1000, Peter wrote: > Hi Tristan, > > On Monday, 24 April 2017 9:45:07 PM AEST Tristan Miller wrote: > > In KMail2, as in KMail, my mail was stored in maildir folders, so > > the easiest migration path to Claws Mail was to set up a local IMAP > > server -- Dovecot -- and copy over my maildir folders. I then set > > up an IMAP account in Claws Mail pointing at the local IMAP > > server. > > Quite a number of people on this list have suggested a Dovecot > server. I notice the server on our website is Dovecot. I'm not sure I > want to go through the learning curve there though to set one up > locally. You could use the IMAP for gmail. That's what I did in order to do a "hello world" proof of concept of moving mail from Kmail2 to Claws. But sending all this stuff out the Internet might be so slow that it would be quicker to build your own Dovecot. How private are these emails? If you don't care about Google's ability to mess with them and give them to others, you could just try copying all 62,000 messages to a gmail account you create (hopefully with full SSL). It will probably take hours to days. Personally, I'm a huge believer in having your own IMAP server, for reasons I'll reveal later in this email. > > The 'mess' that has resulted from akonadi makes that db not equal to > what I see on the file system at present. Trying to hunt for tools to > look at the MySQL db in a sensible view. By that I mean to export all > emails from akonadi in a structured layout, the same as the KMail > folder heirarchy. The minute the KDE folks strayed from mbox and maildir, I knew it was going to be the kind of trouble you mention, and I bailed ASAP. The betrayal I felt when Kmail became Kmail2 (with akonadai) was so complete that I vowed never to let an email client take possession of my messages again. So now I keep my messages on my Dovecot IMAP server, and use my email client just to look at them, search them, and to send replies. I even do my filtering with procmail rather than Claws. The result is if Claws had an influx of 200 programmers all wanting to prove their worth by making simple email into a lifetime achievement by throwing standards in the garbage and doing it their own way, I could be up and running with another IMAP aware email client tomorrow. It's a secure feeling. SteveT Steve Litt April 2017 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Wed Apr 26 02:53:14 2017 From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 10:53:14 +1000 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170425202057.44a7cbe5@mydesk.domain.cxm> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <6947239.xCjCHCDYMS@peter-asus64> <20170425202057.44a7cbe5@mydesk.domain.cxm> Message-ID: <1602766.OL4FRTvxQv@peter-asus64> On Tuesday, 25 April 2017 8:20:57 PM AEST Steve Litt wrote: > You could use the IMAP for gmail. That's what I did in order to do a > "hello world" proof of concept of moving mail from Kmail2 to Claws. But > sending all this stuff out the Internet might be so slow that it would > be quicker to build your own Dovecot. Is the Dovecot idea just to help/assist in the migration from KMail to Claws, or is it a better long term solution ? I'd be a bit concerned to use this (old) desktop, for anything that would create a big load. It's 9 yrs old and needed replacing yrs ago. I'm noticing it is getting slower and slower. Yes I could have a box just for Dovecot, but we have power restrictions, so autumn/ winter, couldn't add any more power usage. > How private are these emails? If you don't care about Google's ability > to mess with them and give them to others, you could just try copying > all 62,000 messages to a gmail account you create (hopefully with full > SSL). It will probably take hours to days. We do have a few GMail/Google emails, but 99% of these emails are private, > The minute the KDE folks strayed from mbox and maildir, I knew it was > going to be the kind of trouble you mention, and I bailed ASAP. The > betrayal I felt when Kmail became Kmail2 (with akonadai) was so > complete that I vowed never to let an email client take possession of > my messages again. So now I keep my messages on my Dovecot IMAP server, > and use my email client just to look at them, search them, and to send > replies. I even do my filtering with procmail rather than Claws. The > result is if Claws had an influx of 200 programmers all wanting to > prove their worth by making simple email into a lifetime achievement by > throwing standards in the garbage and doing it their own way, I could > be up and running with another IMAP aware email client tomorrow. When I first installed Claws, I set the GMail a/c to IMAP. Was very interesting the way it can do that. I'd assume that a Dovecot IMAP server would go well on a small NAS device (low power), then it an be accessed over a lan. Have had a brif look through akonadi db via the MySQL 'workbench'. Oh dear, what a mess. My background is structured programming and system analyst, db admin; I just 'shudder' when I see such things. Even had a brief look at what is all under the akonadi paths, .... yep, .. now I'm even more keen to drop it and go to Claws. lol Peter From slitt at troubleshooters.com Wed Apr 26 05:34:42 2017 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 23:34:42 -0400 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <1602766.OL4FRTvxQv@peter-asus64> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <6947239.xCjCHCDYMS@peter-asus64> <20170425202057.44a7cbe5@mydesk.domain.cxm> <1602766.OL4FRTvxQv@peter-asus64> Message-ID: <20170425233442.5f3115bc@mydesk.domain.cxm> On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 10:53:14 +1000, Peter wrote: > On Tuesday, 25 April 2017 8:20:57 PM AEST Steve Litt wrote: > > You could use the IMAP for gmail. That's what I did in order to do a > > "hello world" proof of concept of moving mail from Kmail2 to Claws. > > But sending all this stuff out the Internet might be so slow that > > it would be quicker to build your own Dovecot. > > Is the Dovecot idea just to help/assist in the migration from KMail > to Claws, or is it a better long term solution ? In my opinion, Dovecot plus an email client is very much a better long term solution than an email client at all. Kmail was once wonderful: Look what happened to it. > I'd be a bit > concerned to use this (old) desktop, for anything that would create a > big load. It's 9 yrs old and needed replacing yrs ago. I'm noticing > it is getting slower and slower. Yes I could have a box just for > Dovecot, but we have power restrictions, so autumn/ winter, couldn't > add any more power usage. On my machine, Dovecot doesn't even show up on a top command. If I were handling email for hundreds of people it would be different,but I'm handling it only for myself. > > How private are these emails? If you don't care about Google's > > ability to mess with them and give them to others, you could just > > try copying all 62,000 messages to a gmail account you create > > (hopefully with full SSL). It will probably take hours to days. > > We do have a few GMail/Google emails, but 99% of these emails are > private, So if you want to keep these emails in house, you need to keep the whole conversion in house. > > The minute the KDE folks strayed from mbox and maildir, I knew it > > was going to be the kind of trouble you mention, and I bailed ASAP. > > The betrayal I felt when Kmail became Kmail2 (with akonadai) was so > > complete that I vowed never to let an email client take possession > > of my messages again. So now I keep my messages on my Dovecot IMAP > > server, and use my email client just to look at them, search them, > > and to send replies. I even do my filtering with procmail rather > > than Claws. The result is if Claws had an influx of 200 programmers > > all wanting to prove their worth by making simple email into a > > lifetime achievement by throwing standards in the garbage and doing > > it their own way, I could be up and running with another IMAP aware > > email client tomorrow. > > When I first installed Claws, I set the GMail a/c to IMAP. Was very > interesting the way it can do that. I'd assume that a Dovecot IMAP > server would go well on a small NAS device (low power), then it an be > accessed over a lan. I doubt it would go on a NAS device. It needs a complete operating system, as far as I know. I put Dovecot on my Daily Driver Desktop, the same computer as I use to interact with Claws-Mail and cruise the web. There are a lot of things that slow this computer down (mainly web browsing and Virtual Machine hosting), but believe me, I don't know Dovecot's running except that I get my email. SteveT From slitt at troubleshooters.com Wed Apr 26 05:40:40 2017 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 23:40:40 -0400 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170425233442.5f3115bc@mydesk.domain.cxm> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <6947239.xCjCHCDYMS@peter-asus64> <20170425202057.44a7cbe5@mydesk.domain.cxm> <1602766.OL4FRTvxQv@peter-asus64> <20170425233442.5f3115bc@mydesk.domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20170425234040.74318aa9@mydesk.domain.cxm> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 23:34:42 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > In my opinion, Dovecot plus an email client is very much a better long > term solution than an email client at all. s/at all/alone/ Oops. SteveT From andrej at kacian.sk Wed Apr 26 09:52:11 2017 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:52:11 +0200 Subject: [Users] Opening mailto: links with Claws Mail in KDE In-Reply-To: <20170425102715.54adb80c.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> References: <20170424220437.07173b12.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20170424215048.655a1a60@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20170424230156.2b01d834@penny> <20170425102715.54adb80c.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Message-ID: <20170426095211.79d081a7@hiker> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:27:15 +0200 Tristan Miller wrote: > Fascinating. Does it work even when you use kde-open from the command > line, as follows? > > $ kde-open mailto:test at example.com > > If even this works, I wonder if Debian might have patched the bug in > their own packages, in which case it needs to be applied upstream... You are right, with kde-open, it stubbornly uses kmail. Only from Firefox and one or two other apps, I get claws-mail compose window instead. Sorry for the noise. Regards, -- Andrej -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 801 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From edodd55 at gmail.com Wed Apr 26 11:43:22 2017 From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 19:43:22 +1000 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <2303002.bH4VqSo2qb@peter-asus64> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170425102907.089e7096@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170425094640.5d3286ff.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <2303002.bH4VqSo2qb@peter-asus64> Message-ID: <20170426194322.521049c5.edodd55@gmail.com> On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:29:18 +1000 Peter wrote: > I would love to completely forget about akonadi, but after checking > just one folder, unfortunately need to get into that db, or at the > least synchronise things. > > I checked one folder in KMail and it shows 49 messages. Counted them, > and got 49. Then had a look at the file system and there are only 43 > messages. So if I simply use the file structure, there is the risk of > loosing messages. :( > > Regards, > > Peter This whole thing has been scripted in Perl, by Paul. Copy your Mail database somewhere else and use Paul's script, leaving your KMail untouched. It's a belt-and-braces system - do your conversions on your backup! Liz From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Wed Apr 26 12:22:01 2017 From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter Richards) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:22:01 +1000 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170426194322.521049c5.edodd55@gmail.com> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170425102907.089e7096@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170425094640.5d3286ff.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <2303002.bH4VqSo2qb@peter-asus64> <20170426194322.521049c5.edodd55@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20170426202201.035e2d8a@peter-Inspiron-3542> Hi Liz, On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 19:43:22 +1000 Liz wrote: > On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:29:18 +1000 > Peter wrote: > > > I would love to completely forget about akonadi, but after checking > > just one folder, unfortunately need to get into that db, or at the > > least synchronise things. > > > > I checked one folder in KMail and it shows 49 messages. Counted > > them, and got 49. Then had a look at the file system and there are > > only 43 messages. So if I simply use the file structure, there is > > the risk of loosing messages. :( > > > > This whole thing has been scripted in Perl, by Paul. It's been a while since I used/wrote any Perl, but after hving a look at Paul's script, there doesn't seem to be any code there to use the (akonadi) MySQL database. It parses through the KMail folder structure only. From https://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi " In SC 4.4, KAddressBook became the first application to start using the Akonadi framework. In SC 4.7, KMail, KOrganizer, KJots, etc. were updated to use Akonadi as well." From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_Software_Compilation_4#KDE_SC_4.7 "KDE SC 4.7 was released on 28 July 2011." The latest version of Paul's script is 25/02/2007 Those articles simply confirm that Akonadi came after Paul's script. If I use the KMail data "as is", because there are data discrepancies (between KMail and Akonadi database), I will loose emails. Have only checked 2 folders and both had differences. What I can "see" in Kmail isn't in the Kmail folder structure, it is in the Akonadi db MySQL database. Therefore, I need to get that sorted first, to remove any data discrepancies. Regards, Peter From sylpheed at 911networks.com Wed Apr 26 18:24:10 2017 From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:24:10 -0700 Subject: [Users] dillo Message-ID: <20170426092410.0a670577@frogguski.911networks.com> CM 3.14.1 I just installed Dillo to be able to preview some html emails. Is there a key to increase the font size? I'm getting old and even with progressives glasses it's becoming difficult. I've looked at keysrc and I don't "see anything" (pun intended). I've tried every combination of alt, shift and ctrl with the plus or minus and nothing. -- sknahT vyS From gour at atmarama.com Wed Apr 26 20:47:35 2017 From: gour at atmarama.com (Gour) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:47:35 +0200 Subject: [Users] integrating Claws with Emacs' org-mode Message-ID: <20170426204735.472a6590@atmarama.dtdns.net> Hello, I am considering if there is a way to integrate Claws-mail with Emacs' org-mode in a way described here: https://superuser.com/questions/71786/can-i-create-a-link-to-a-specific-email-message-in-outlook iow. I'd like to be able to create external hyperlinks in my org-mode files pointing the the mail/news messages in Claws, so that when I create external link to some Claws' mail/news message I can click on it within Emacs and then see selected message in Claws' GUI. After asking about in in #claws I got several responses (thank you all!) and tried with the following: claws-mail --select '#imap/gour/INBOX/10254' and, voila, Claws did select the correct message. :-) Now I'd like to get some hint how could I automate creating correct external link to mail/news messages within org-mode file, iow. is it just the question of crearing some Emacs macro to do it by supplying value for 'Number' column within Claws and/or do you recommend something else? Here is some docs about creating new external link types in org-mode: http://orgmode.org/manual/Adding-hyperlink-types.html#Adding-hyperlink-types Sincerely, Gour -- The intricacies of action are very hard to understand. Therefore one should know properly what action is, what forbidden action is, and what inaction is. From mir at miras.org Wed Apr 26 21:34:13 2017 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 21:34:13 +0200 Subject: [Users] dillo In-Reply-To: <20170426092410.0a670577@frogguski.911networks.com> References: <20170426092410.0a670577@frogguski.911networks.com> Message-ID: <20170426213413.16fc428b@sleipner.datanom.net> On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:24:10 -0700 sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote: > CM 3.14.1 > > I just installed Dillo to be able to preview some html emails. > > Is there a key to increase the font size? I'm getting old and even > with progressives glasses it's becoming difficult. > > I've looked at keysrc and I don't "see anything" (pun intended). I've > tried every combination of alt, shift and ctrl with the plus or minus > and nothing. > Create ~/.dillo/style.css Try adding this to file: code, tt, pre, samp, kbd {font-family: monospace !important; font-size: 1.0em !important} * {font-family: serif !important; font-size: 1.2em !important} The size em is a relative size where 1.0 means 100% and 1.2 means 120% NB. the order in the file is important since the file is read according to first match takes precedent. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: You will be married within a year. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I haven't figured out what mairix.sh is for. (On debian, package claws-mail-tools, /usr/share/doc/claws-mail/tools/mairix.sh.) It appears to combine the scan and search operations into one command. Nice, but I usually find myself making multiple searches as I refine my query. So only the first scan in a series of searches would be useful. -- The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. -- U.S. Const. Amendment IV Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 27 07:39:54 2017 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 06:39:54 +0100 Subject: [Users] Mairix In-Reply-To: <20170426174256.6ba0b7b9@hawk.localdomain> References: <20170426174256.6ba0b7b9@hawk.localdomain> Message-ID: <20170427063954.593080f3@kujata> On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 17:42:56 -0600 Charles Curley wrote: > I tried creating it with mkdir and > touching .mh_sequences. That created it, but I could not see it in > claws-mail. Use the top-level mailbox folder's context menu, 'Check for new folders'. with regards Paul From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 27 15:19:33 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 13:19:33 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3816] New: ClawsMail does not start in Windows 10 Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3816 Bug ID: 3816 Summary: ClawsMail does not start in Windows 10 Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail (Windows) Version: 3.15.0 Hardware: PC OS: Windows 10 Status: NEW Severity: major Priority: P3 Component: default Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: admin at dcitelecom.com I am running ClawsMail 3.9.3 without issues on Windows 10, 64 bit. I recently tried to upgrade to the newest Clawsmail version, i.e. 3.15.0-1 but it does not start in windows 10. I tried both the 32 and 64 bit versions. I am sorry I don't have more information but there is no error. It just flickers a couple of times and does not start. Is there are log or debug I could provide? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 27 15:46:55 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 13:46:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3816] ClawsMail does not start in Windows 10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3816 --- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian --- You could try running claws-mail.exe with --debug flag, and then look for a file named "claws-win32.log" somewhere in your system's temporary folder (TEMP system variable). Also make sure that you have a clean install, by uninstalling Claws Mail and making sure that there is no "Claws Mail" (or the old install location, "GNU\Claws Mail") folder. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From eldlistmailingz at tropicsoft.com Thu Apr 27 16:10:08 2017 From: eldlistmailingz at tropicsoft.com (Edward Diener) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 10:10:08 -0400 Subject: [Users] Cross platform data for a newsreader and e-mail client Message-ID: <855e36fd-6ae8-f34a-db2e-ceeccbb26b7b@tropicsoft.com> I am looking for a news reader, e-mail cliient, supporting Linux and Windows, which supports the sharing of data between both OSs. In other words, on a shared drive ( NTFS partition ) I want to be able to have the data of the application accessible by both Windows ( 7, 8.1, 10 ) and various Linux distros in a multi-boot environment. I am not looking to access the data at the same time from different OSs, but just to be able to access the same data flawlessly when running Claws on Windows or a Linux distro. Is this possible with Claws ? I had been using Thunderbird, but after having problems sharing a TB profile between Windows and Linux distros I was told that this was not officially supported by TB. Therefore I am looking for a good alternative and found Claws. But I did not find the information on whether data can be shared across platforms, so I am asking on this mailing list before I start to use Claws. From rol at witbe.net Thu Apr 27 17:04:27 2017 From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=)) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 17:04:27 +0200 Subject: [Users] longer term stats? In-Reply-To: <20170424155919.34c0a162@user-Satellite-A100> References: <20170424155919.34c0a162@user-Satellite-A100> Message-ID: <20170427170427.23c279a7@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Hello Dave, On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 15:59:19 -0700 Dave Stevens wrote: > In 3.13.2 when I click help -> about and the statistics tab I get stats > for this session only. Is there a specifier for longer periods? No, stats are collected from the moment Claws starts to the moment it stops, and they are resetted each time it starts. I also think it could be nice to have a longer term statistics collection in addition to this session based one... but that's not the core function of a MUA ;) Paul -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 27 18:12:23 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 16:12:23 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3816] ClawsMail does not start in Windows 10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3816 Andrej Kacian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1746|application/octet-stream |text/plain mime type| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 27 22:17:55 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 20:17:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3816] ClawsMail does not start in Windows 10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3816 --- Comment #3 from admin at dcitelecom.com --- Problem solved. It appears old versions of Claws Mail can not be upgraded directly to the newest version. All user data has to be deleted and then some of it can be copied back. Thanks. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From rol at witbe.net Thu Apr 27 22:31:28 2017 From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=)) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 22:31:28 +0200 Subject: [Users] Mairix In-Reply-To: <20170427063954.593080f3@kujata> References: <20170426174256.6ba0b7b9@hawk.localdomain> <20170427063954.593080f3@kujata> Message-ID: <20170427223128.17138a8d@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Hello, On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 06:39:54 +0100 Paul wrote: > On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 17:42:56 -0600 > Charles Curley wrote: > > > I tried creating it with mkdir and > > touching .mh_sequences. That created it, but I could not see it in > > claws-mail. > > Use the top-level mailbox folder's context menu, 'Check for new > folders'. Well, while we are quietly chatting about Mairix, I have a suggestion... Would it be possible to add a new Folder type (Mairix Search results), and have it automagically parse the links that are present in the disk directory to recreate the folder tree when presenting the search results ? For example, if the search result directory contains : lrwxrwxrwx 1 rol rol 52 Apr 27 22:27 27845 -> /home2/rol/Mail/Dossiers personnels/Phabricator/5768 lrwxrwxrwx 1 rol rol 52 Apr 27 22:27 27984 -> /home2/rol/Mail/Dossiers personnels/Phabricator/5906 lrwxrwxrwx 1 rol rol 71 Apr 27 22:27 28515 -> /home2/rol/Mail/Dossiers personnels/Sous-dossiers/ASAComputers/54 lrwxrwxrwx 1 rol rol 71 Apr 27 22:27 28517 -> /home2/rol/Mail/Dossiers personnels/Sous-dossiers/ASAComputers/56 lrwxrwxrwx 1 rol rol 66 Apr 27 22:27 28573 -> /home2/rol/Mail/Dossiers personnels/Sous-dossiers/ASInfo/106 lrwxrwxrwx 1 rol rol 64 Apr 27 22:27 29120 -> /home2/rol/Mail/Dossiers personnels/Sous-dossiers/Artem/73 lrwxrwxrwx 1 rol rol 47 Apr 27 22:27 3005 -> /home2/rol/Mail/Dossiers personnels/Achats/2242 lrwxrwxrwx 1 rol rol 47 Apr 27 22:27 3006 -> /home2/rol/Mail/Dossiers personnels/Achats/2243 lrwxrwxrwx 1 rol rol 47 Apr 27 22:27 3007 -> /home2/rol/Mail/Dossiers personnels/Achats/2244 lrwxrwxrwx 1 rol rol 47 Apr 27 22:27 3018 -> /home2/rol/Mail/Dossiers personnels/Achats/2255 then it'd be great to have Claws display a Search result tree that would be Search results > Dossiers Personnets > Phabricator > Sous-dossiers > AComputers > Info > Achats because often, you know that the information you need is in a folder, but the "flat" presentation of the Mairix results doesn't ease the identification of the mail containing the info. Or is it possible to have Mairix create a directory tree that Claws could process ? Regards, Paul -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 27 23:00:12 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 21:00:12 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3816] ClawsMail does not start in Windows 10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3816 --- Comment #4 from Andrej Kacian --- Based on the log you provided, it seems like some of the old configuration files got corrupted and I was going to test a few scenarios when I'd get a bit of time. I am not aware of any change over the years that would make an older configuration incompatible, but it could be that there was (or still is?) some bug in the Windows port specifically that could cause this. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 27 23:35:29 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 21:35:29 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3817] New: Rework alertpanel focus handling Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3817 Bug ID: 3817 Summary: Rework alertpanel focus handling Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: minor Priority: P3 Component: Other Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: flo.xfce at gmx-topmail.de Created attachment 1747 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1747&action=edit Rework alertpanel focus handling The current way of giving focus to a button other than button1 in the alertpanel we prepend a plus sign to the label. This is bad style. Also, this breaks building with the --enable-gtk3 flag (which is unsupported atm, true, but still another reason to rework the current code). The attached patch introduces a seperate flag to specify which button in the alertpanel should be focused. A bit more typing is neccessary, but yields much cleaner code. The patch is rather big because there are so many calls to alertpanel(), but the changes are trivial. The patch was created with git diff origin/master..alertpanel_rework -- . ':!po' -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 27 23:49:12 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 21:49:12 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3817] Rework alertpanel focus handling In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3817 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|Other |UI -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From mm at edor.eu Fri Apr 28 00:36:37 2017 From: mm at edor.eu (Uwe) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 00:36:37 +0200 Subject: [Users] Mairix In-Reply-To: <20170426174256.6ba0b7b9@hawk.localdomain> References: <20170426174256.6ba0b7b9@hawk.localdomain> Message-ID: <15b8a5db-9b3c-8d7d-c7be-07f8f12a452e@edor.eu> I'm using as frontend recoll, as backend xapian, this works better for me, even together with claws. Click on search results, opens the specific message in claws, and the search options are very advantages, if you need. On 27.04.2017 01:42, Charles Curley wrote: > I just installed mairix from the debian repositories. I'm rather > impressed with it. I can specify a subset to be indexed of all the > emails available. It took about a minute to index for the first time > several gigabytes of emails, and then seconds to search the index for > a keyword. That is much faster than using find across all the emails I > have. > > I did have a problem. I wanted the output folder to be where claws-mail > would find it, so in its mail tree. I tried creating it with mkdir and > touching .mh_sequences. That created it, but I could not see it in > claws-mail. > > Instead I created it where I wanted it using claws-mail. That worked. > > I haven't figured out what mairix.sh is for. (On debian, package > claws-mail-tools, /usr/share/doc/claws-mail/tools/mairix.sh.) It appears > to combine the scan and search operations into one command. Nice, but I > usually find myself making multiple searches as I refine my query. So > only the first scan in a series of searches would be useful. > From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Fri Apr 28 12:22:33 2017 From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter Richards) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 20:22:33 +1000 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170426202201.035e2d8a@peter-Inspiron-3542> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170425102907.089e7096@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170425094640.5d3286ff.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <2303002.bH4VqSo2qb@peter-asus64> <20170426194322.521049c5.edodd55@gmail.com> <20170426202201.035e2d8a@peter-Inspiron-3542> Message-ID: <20170428202233.76255fed@peter-Inspiron-3542> After much searching and trying this and that to get akonadi db to synch with KMail, I tried the 'Copy to' feature, whereby you can copy an entire folder. Setup a new maildir folder with KMail first, then tried one of the folders where akonadi db emails were different from what was showing as under ~/Mail path. I was very surprised that it worked. So, tried another folder where there were missing emails and the 'copy to' to the new Maaildir path. Checked in the new '/Mail' path and very surpised that the missing emails were there. Then another folder; it worked also. Then tried one of the large folders and it crashed. Reboots, restarted the akonadi server, etc,etc, for a few hours. Wheels started to spin again. However, as I was able to recover the important folders (well more to the point, get akonadi server to export them to the new MailDir path), and I was wanting to drop KMaail/akonadi, decided to use what was showing in the ~/Mail path for all the other emails. Took some backups and ran Paul's script. There were a few minor errors that came up, and have now been able to make those changes to the script and ran it today. All looks good. Got some help from Perl Monks, as my Perl was a tad rusty. :) It was SO nice to completely uninstall KMail and anything at all that had the name 'akonadi' in it. lol Have been testing/trialling Claws on this laptop and looking foward to installing it tomorrow on the desktop where all the email folders are. Am not convinced I need to travel down the Dovecot path, as I'm not sure that I need it ?? Surely, just Claws is ample for my needs. When I was trying to check the input from the script (KMail folders) against the output with Beyond Compare, couldn't find a method to check the files by CRC. However, dropping the folder view enabled a view that was reasonable enough to see that the conversion was working okay. Also tried fdupes to check input folders to output, as it uses CRC I think. All looked okay there, at least a spot check, as I wasn't going to check about 64,000 lines of output. lol Thanks to everyone on this list. You have been very helpful and informative. Peter From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Fri Apr 28 12:39:10 2017 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron)) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 06:39:10 -0400 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170428202233.76255fed@peter-Inspiron-3542> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170425102907.089e7096@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170425094640.5d3286ff.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <2303002.bH4VqSo2qb@peter-asus64> <20170426194322.521049c5.edodd55@gmail.com> <20170426202201.035e2d8a@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170428202233.76255fed@peter-Inspiron-3542> Message-ID: <20170428063910.072385a3@ron.cerrocora.org> On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 20:22:33 +1000 Peter Richards wrote: > It was SO nice to completely uninstall KMail and anything at all that > had the name 'akonadi' in it. lol And all the rest of the K bloatware... Cheers, Ron. -- Historians are doomed to provide the raw material for bigotry and nationalism -- Eric Hobsbawm -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Fri Apr 28 12:46:33 2017 From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter Richards) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 20:46:33 +1000 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170428063910.072385a3@ron.cerrocora.org> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170425102907.089e7096@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170425094640.5d3286ff.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <2303002.bH4VqSo2qb@peter-asus64> <20170426194322.521049c5.edodd55@gmail.com> <20170426202201.035e2d8a@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170428202233.76255fed@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170428063910.072385a3@ron.cerrocora.org> Message-ID: <20170428204633.2eff28ae@peter-Inspiron-3542> On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 06:39:10 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 20:22:33 +1000 > Peter Richards wrote: > > > It was SO nice to completely uninstall KMail and anything at all > > that had the name 'akonadi' in it. lol > > And all the rest of the K bloatware... Yes, I don't use any of the other 'PIM' packages, and I think the only other "K" package is KMyMoney, so I'm now asking myself, ..do I really need Kubuntu, and should I just swap back to Ubuntu. lol Regards, Peter From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 28 13:16:18 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 11:16:18 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3818] New: On Mailbox with various folders with unread mail "next unread" jumps to next folder with unread mail Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3818 Bug ID: 3818 Summary: On Mailbox with various folders with unread mail "next unread" jumps to next folder with unread mail Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail (Windows) Version: 3.15.0 Hardware: PC OS: Windows 7 Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: default Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: tschweikle at gmail.com * Install Claws mail oder upgrade to 3.15.0. * Configure your mailbox Selecting "next unread" will jump to next unread mail. Selecting "next unread" a second time it will jump to next unread mail in the next folder, ignoring unread mail in the one you came from. Selecting "next unread" again, again jumps to next unread in the next folder. At the end it starts all over. I'd awaited to select "next unread" to jump to next unread within the same folder, until no unread mail leftm then jumping to next unread in next folder. I found this with version 3.15.0 on Windows (32- and 64-bit) and Linux (Ubuntu 17.04, 64-bit). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 28 13:26:43 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 11:26:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3818] On Mailbox with various folders with unread mail "next unread" jumps to next folder with unread mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3818 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Paul --- 'next' is next, 'previous' is previous. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From olaf at aepfle.de Fri Apr 28 13:38:04 2017 From: olaf at aepfle.de (Olaf Hering) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 13:38:04 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3818] On Mailbox with various folders with unread mail "next unread" jumps to next folder with unread mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20170428133804.320c3fa1.olaf@aepfle.de> Am Fri, 28 Apr 2017 11:26:43 +0000 schrieb noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk: > Resolution|--- |INVALID > 'next' is next, 'previous' is previous. ... and shift+g is jump to other folder. Something that is now duplicated by shift+n. This response indicates that the UI of 3.15 is supposed to stay in its now broken state. Olaf -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 195 bytes Desc: Digitale Signatur von OpenPGP URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 28 15:09:13 2017 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:09:13 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3818] On Mailbox with various folders with unread mail "next unread" jumps to next folder with unread mail In-Reply-To: <20170428133804.320c3fa1.olaf@aepfle.de> References: <20170428133804.320c3fa1.olaf@aepfle.de> Message-ID: <20170428140913.06d46531@kujata> On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 13:38:04 +0200 Olaf Hering wrote: > ... and shift+g is jump to other folder. Something that is now > duplicated by shift+n. Not really. shift+g (/View/Go to/Folder) is for going to any folder, and presents the folder selection dialogue for choosing the folder. And that's quite different from shift+n. > This response indicates that the UI of 3.15 > is supposed to stay in its now broken state. 'broken'? What I do have a vague plan to add is when using go to [next|previous] and reaching the end, show a dialogue asking 'go to next folder or go the beginning of the current folder', etc. Is that what you are hinting at? with regards Paul From olaf at aepfle.de Fri Apr 28 15:59:42 2017 From: olaf at aepfle.de (Olaf Hering) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:59:42 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3818] On Mailbox with various folders with unread mail "next unread" jumps to next folder with unread mail In-Reply-To: <20170428140913.06d46531@kujata> References: <20170428133804.320c3fa1.olaf@aepfle.de> <20170428140913.06d46531@kujata> Message-ID: <20170428155942.37db3ab5.olaf@aepfle.de> Am Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:09:13 +0100 schrieb Paul : > On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 13:38:04 +0200 > Olaf Hering wrote: > > ... and shift+g is jump to other folder. Something that is now > > duplicated by shift+n. > Not really. shift+g (/View/Go to/Folder) is for going to any folder, > and presents the folder selection dialogue for choosing the folder. > And that's quite different from shift+n. For me shift+g goes to the next folder with unread messages. If that happens by accident or because I unknowingly adjusted some knobs or because that's the default, no idea. > > This response indicates that the UI of 3.15 > > is supposed to stay in its now broken state. > 'broken'? What I do have a vague plan to add is when using go to > [next|previous] and reaching the end, show a dialogue asking 'go to > next folder or go the beginning of the current folder', etc. Is that > what you are hinting at? Another dialog would be cumbersome. The one from 'shift+p' is already unpleasant. As several people already pointed out, the changes in 3.15 implement unexpected behavior. I for one expect that 'next unread' cycles within the same folder until all messages are read. At least that is what I'm used to. If the next step would be 'jump to other folder' or just do noting with shift+n is probably a matter of taste. So far I could not come up with a good explanation what the change is actually trying to achieve or fix. If the cursor is (for whatever reason) in the middle of a list of unread messages, why would one want to go just in a single direction to the very end, and then stop there? Today I briefly looked at the source to find the reason why 'shift+p' would show a popup, and 'shift+n' would not. There is a knob "next_unread_msg_dialog". For some reason its only shown for 'shift+p'. If it is set to "assume no" I finally got a UI I can live with: 'shift+n/p' go to the end of each direction, and only 'shift+g' will switch folders. No more unexpected jumps to other folders. That enables me to use thread-view again, instead of a flat list ordered by date. So I think I'm all set. Olaf -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 195 bytes Desc: Digitale Signatur von OpenPGP URL: From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com Fri Apr 28 16:45:41 2017 From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:45:41 +0200 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170428202233.76255fed@peter-Inspiron-3542> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170425102907.089e7096@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170425094640.5d3286ff.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <2303002.bH4VqSo2qb@peter-asus64> <20170426194322.521049c5.edodd55@gmail.com> <20170426202201.035e2d8a@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170428202233.76255fed@peter-Inspiron-3542> Message-ID: <20170428164541.7d82a1c5.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Greetings. On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 20:22:33 +1000, Peter Richards wrote: > Am not convinced I need to travel down the Dovecot path, as I'm not > sure that I need it ?? Surely, just Claws is ample for my needs. But surely you said the same thing about KMail when you started using it. :) Using an IMAP server like Dovecot is more future-proof. If you decide, now or in the future, that you don't like Claws Mail, or if you ever find you want to access your mail from another system that Claws Mail doesn't run on, then things will be easier for you if all your messages are on an IMAP server. (And since IMAP servers store messages in a standard way, you can always switch from Dovecot to something else if you need to.) Regards, Tristan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tristan Miller Free Software developer, ferret herder, logologist https://logological.org/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That is, put up the requester asking "Go to next folder", or "Loop through this folder" and additionally ask the use (check box in same requester, perhaps) "Use this behaviour always" Something like; (button) Loop through this folder (button) Go to next folder (checkbox) |_| Always use this setting -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Tell the dinosaurs they just won't survive The History Of The World (Part 1) - The Damned -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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None of the definitions of "next" are wrong, just different. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" The public gets what the public wants Going Underground - The Jam -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 488 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From slitt at troubleshooters.com Fri Apr 28 18:11:00 2017 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 12:11:00 -0400 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170428063910.072385a3@ron.cerrocora.org> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170425102907.089e7096@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170425094640.5d3286ff.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <2303002.bH4VqSo2qb@peter-asus64> <20170426194322.521049c5.edodd55@gmail.com> <20170426202201.035e2d8a@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170428202233.76255fed@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170428063910.072385a3@ron.cerrocora.org> Message-ID: <20170428121100.48ba08fe@mydesk.domain.cxm> On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 06:39:10 -0400, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 20:22:33 +1000 > Peter Richards wrote: > > > It was SO nice to completely uninstall KMail and anything at all > > that had the name 'akonadi' in it. lol > > And all the rest of the K bloatware... > > Cheers, I hear you Ron! In 2012, several months after getting rid of Kmail2, I finally got rid of K3B, an excellent DVD burner that suffers from being a KDE program. It was my last KDE program. I removed all KDE libraries and made a policy that I would never again install any KDE program, because with KDE, in for a penny, in for a pound. In the ensuing years, my computer has been much more stable. SteveT From slitt at troubleshooters.com Fri Apr 28 18:14:59 2017 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 12:14:59 -0400 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170428204633.2eff28ae@peter-Inspiron-3542> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170425102907.089e7096@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170425094640.5d3286ff.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <2303002.bH4VqSo2qb@peter-asus64> <20170426194322.521049c5.edodd55@gmail.com> <20170426202201.035e2d8a@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170428202233.76255fed@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170428063910.072385a3@ron.cerrocora.org> <20170428204633.2eff28ae@peter-Inspiron-3542> Message-ID: <20170428121459.24c566a4@mydesk.domain.cxm> On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 20:46:33 +1000, Peter Richards wrote: > On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 06:39:10 -0400 > Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > > > On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 20:22:33 +1000 > > Peter Richards wrote: > > > > > It was SO nice to completely uninstall KMail and anything at all > > > that had the name 'akonadi' in it. lol > > > > And all the rest of the K bloatware... > > Yes, I don't use any of the other 'PIM' packages, and I think the only > other "K" package is KMyMoney, so I'm now asking myself, ..do I really > need Kubuntu, and should I just swap back to Ubuntu. lol > > Regards, > > Peter Hi Peter, If you're going to use any Buntu at all, I'd like to recommend Lubuntu, which is Ubuntu using the LXDE GOSFUI (a GOSFUI is a user interface that is either a window manager or a desktop environment). LXDE is very lightweight, and my experience with a couple years of Lubuntu use under my belt is it's like adding more RAM and speeding up your processor. And, as always, I recommend to every touch-typist that whatever GOSFUI you're using, you install dmenu and hotkey it in to your GOSFUI. Your productivity will skyrocket. SteveT From slitt at troubleshooters.com Fri Apr 28 18:38:20 2017 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 12:38:20 -0400 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170428164541.7d82a1c5.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170425102907.089e7096@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170425094640.5d3286ff.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <2303002.bH4VqSo2qb@peter-asus64> <20170426194322.521049c5.edodd55@gmail.com> <20170426202201.035e2d8a@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170428202233.76255fed@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170428164541.7d82a1c5.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Message-ID: <20170428123820.38960cff@mydesk.domain.cxm> On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:45:41 +0200, Tristan Miller wrote: > Greetings. > > On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 20:22:33 +1000, Peter Richards > wrote: > > Am not convinced I need to travel down the Dovecot path, as I'm not > > sure that I need it ?? Surely, just Claws is ample for my needs. > > But surely you said the same thing about KMail when you started using > it. :) Using an IMAP server like Dovecot is more future-proof. If > you decide, now or in the future, that you don't like Claws Mail, or > if you ever find you want to access your mail from another system > that Claws Mail doesn't run on, then things will be easier for you if > all your messages are on an IMAP server. (And since IMAP servers > store messages in a standard way, you can always switch from Dovecot > to something else if you need to.) > > Regards, > Tristan Hi Tristan, You know that, and I know that, but imagine how daunting it would be for Peter to have to quickly set up the whole IMAP bucket brigade: Fetchmail to procmail to Dovecot to Claws. His priority was to get his data out of Kmail2 while he still could, and from what I've read, he has. Now that his data is safe, if Peter ever wants to dip his feet in the personal IMAP waters, what he could do is use one email address, that he seldom uses, as an entry to IMAP. He could start by getting it thru fetchmail, and then set up Dovecot and procmail, and very slowly get that whole thing working, including SSL. Setting this up doesn't put at risk his email system. Once it's all set up, if he wants, he can copy various directories to the new system, and set up fetchmail sections and procmail recipes to directly load incoming emails of certain categories to his new Dovecot. But for the time being, I say to Peter: Congratulations on saving your data from that data muncher called Kmail. SteveT From andrej at kacian.sk Fri Apr 28 19:16:18 2017 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 19:16:18 +0200 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170428164541.7d82a1c5.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170425102907.089e7096@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170425094640.5d3286ff.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <2303002.bH4VqSo2qb@peter-asus64> <20170426194322.521049c5.edodd55@gmail.com> <20170426202201.035e2d8a@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170428202233.76255fed@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170428164541.7d82a1c5.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Message-ID: <20170428191618.411123f8@hiker> On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:45:41 +0200 Tristan Miller wrote: > (And since IMAP servers store messages in a standard way, That is not necessarily true. There are no rules about storage backend for IMAP, each server implementation can pick whatever backend they like to store user mailboxes, even if they create their own. It is up to you to do your homework and find out what backend(s) a given IMAP server software supports before deploying it. -- Andrej -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 801 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From jvromans at squirrel.nl Fri Apr 28 22:49:12 2017 From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 22:49:12 +0200 Subject: [Users] Strange message selection after delete Message-ID: <20170428224912.3af3535b@phoenix.squirrel.nl> I have disabled "immediate processing of move and delete". I have 5 messages in my subject view, and the first (top) message is selected. I hit [Del]. Message #1 is marked for deletion and message #2 is selected. I hit [Del]. Message #2 is marked for deletion and message #1 is selected. I hit [Del]. Message #3 is selected. I hit [Del]. Message #3 is marked for deletion and message #2 is selected. I hit [Del]. Message #1 is selected. And so on... -- Johan From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Sat Apr 29 05:56:10 2017 From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter Richards) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 13:56:10 +1000 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170428121459.24c566a4@mydesk.domain.cxm> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170425102907.089e7096@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170425094640.5d3286ff.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <2303002.bH4VqSo2qb@peter-asus64> <20170426194322.521049c5.edodd55@gmail.com> <20170426202201.035e2d8a@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170428202233.76255fed@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170428063910.072385a3@ron.cerrocora.org> <20170428204633.2eff28ae@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170428121459.24c566a4@mydesk.domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20170429135610.6f63c82f@peter-asus64> Hi Steve, On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 12:14:59 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > If you're going to use any Buntu at all, I'd like to recommend > Lubuntu, which is Ubuntu using the LXDE GOSFUI (a GOSFUI is a user > interface that is either a window manager or a desktop environment). > LXDE is very lightweight, and my experience with a couple years of > Lubuntu use under my belt is it's like adding more RAM and speeding > up your processor. > > And, as always, I recommend to every touch-typist that whatever GOSFUI > you're using, you install dmenu and hotkey it in to your GOSFUI. Your > productivity will skyrocket. Okay thanks. I will take a look at Lubuntu and see if I can run all the current packages that I need on it. It may well be suitable, given the fact that this desktop is 9 years old and short of RAM and even disk space now. It's nice to be using Claws now, all up and going. It sure is lightweight; it's not even using 100K of memory at present. lol Regards, Peter From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Sat Apr 29 06:11:32 2017 From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter Richards) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:11:32 +1000 Subject: [Users] Moving emails from another computer Message-ID: <20170429141132.089c0755@peter-asus64> I noticed there is a numbering system with Claws, each file/email has a unique name. During the few days that I ran Claws on another computer, there were a number of messages sent/received. How do I add those emails to the (new) Claws please ? There is a 'File | Import mbox file' , however these files are not 'mbox', they are MailDir. Regards, Peter From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Sat Apr 29 07:24:50 2017 From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter Richards) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:24:50 +1000 Subject: [Users] Moving emails from another computer In-Reply-To: <20170429141132.089c0755@peter-asus64> References: <20170429141132.089c0755@peter-asus64> Message-ID: <20170429152450.1a4b4523@peter-asus64> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:11:32 +1000 Peter Richards wrote: > I noticed there is a numbering system with Claws, each file/email has > a unique name. During the few days that I ran Claws on another > computer, there were a number of messages sent/received. > > How do I add those emails to the (new) Claws please ? There is a 'File > | Import mbox file' , however these files are not 'mbox', they are > MailDir. The 'Drafts' folder was empty, so I copied 2 files into that. I can view them okay in Claws. Hopefully there is nothing internal that can be corrupted ? The 3 hidden files seem to have been updated. There is another 56 emails, all in one folder and all of the Claws format. Will it be okay to copy the rest into 'Drafts' without corrupting anything within Claws ? Regards, Peter From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Sat Apr 29 08:00:52 2017 From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 00:00:52 -0600 Subject: [Users] Moving emails from another computer In-Reply-To: <20170429141132.089c0755@peter-asus64> References: <20170429141132.089c0755@peter-asus64> Message-ID: <20170429000052.04190ff1@jhegaala.localdomain> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:11:32 +1000 Peter Richards wrote: > I noticed there is a numbering system with Claws, each file/email has > a unique name. During the few days that I ran Claws on another > computer, there were a number of messages sent/received. > > How do I add those emails to the (new) Claws please ? Shut Claws down. Make sure the new emails have what will be unique file names. Copy them into place. Restart Claws. -- The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. -- U.S. Const. Amendment IV Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sat Apr 29 08:27:40 2017 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 08:27:40 +0200 Subject: [Users] Moving emails from another computer In-Reply-To: <20170429152450.1a4b4523@peter-asus64> References: <20170429141132.089c0755@peter-asus64> <20170429152450.1a4b4523@peter-asus64> Message-ID: <20170429082740.7ca0cbbf@utnubu> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:11:32 +1000, Peter Richards wrote: >How do I add those emails to the (new) Claws please ? There is a 'File >| Import mbox file' , however these files are not 'mbox', they are >MailDir. The old Claws doesn't provide File > Export to mbox file... and/or File > Export Selected to mbox file... ? On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:24:50 +1000, Peter Richards wrote: >There is another 56 emails, all in one folder and all of the Claws >format. Will it be okay to copy the rest into 'Drafts' without >corrupting anything within Claws ? If you copy them with a file manager or by command line to Drafts or any other empty folder, nothing should get corrupted. After that you even could copy them from the Draft or any other folder, to another folder that isn't empty, that already contains an email with the same number, since then it would become a number higher, than the email with the already highest number, but you need to do this step from within Claws, not by using a file manager or command line. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 29 14:47:45 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 12:47:45 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3325] Password conversion from plaintext to encrypted does not handle ! as first char of plaintext password In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3325 Andrej Kacian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WONTFIX --- Comment #6 from Andrej Kacian --- When Claws Mail looks at the password in the preferences and sees it prefixed with '!', it assumes that what comes after the '!' is already encrypted. That is why this problem exists - if migrating from very old configuration, where passwords were stored directly in plaintext, any password starting with '!' will be problematic. Unfortunately, at this point, I doubt anyone is going to spend their time fixing this corner case. Especially since Claws Mail has already moved on to yet another system for storing passwords. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From lenard.lynch at gmail.com Sat Apr 29 20:43:20 2017 From: lenard.lynch at gmail.com (Lenard Lynch) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 13:43:20 -0500 Subject: [Users] Windows NNTP recipe/how-to pointer Message-ID: <008901d2c118$797cbec0$6c763c40$@gmail.com> Looking for a recipe/how-to for install/setup of NNTP Claws-mail for Windows using binaries. The user archive posts on Windows and NNTP are sparse, but it looks like it used to work... If this isn't the correct place to post this question, please point me toward it. TIA What I've tried so far and failed: 1) Installed Claws-mail on Windows (32-bit v3.15.0) 2) Docs point to libetpan (but the plugin is not hosted with the other plugins) Found binaries, but they appear to be a little dated... https://github.com/dinhviethoa/libetpan/tree/master/build-windows http://d.etpan.org/mailcore2-deps/libetpan-win32/ 3) Copied .dlls (plus dependencies in this documentation) to lib\claws-mail\plugins directory 4) Attempted to load libetpan.dll using the "Configuration | Plugins | Load" controls After resolving issues with missing .dlls dialogs, I'm left with a remaining error: "The following error occurred while loading libetpan.dll: 'plugin_name': the specified procedure could not be found." Am I doing this wrong? Should I be trying an older version of Claws-mail? If so, what version should I be looking for? Has support for this withered and/or been abandoned? If I can get any help resolving this, I'd assist others that come after... After digging a bit more, I see this: http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2016-May/016596.html So it looks like there were plans a year ago to get this working on Windows... Good Journey, Len Lynch Realizes: "Culture eats technology for breakfast." -Russ White (rule11.us) From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 29 21:23:52 2017 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 19:23:52 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3819] New: Duplicate definition of global pygtk symbols Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3819 Bug ID: 3819 Summary: Duplicate definition of global pygtk symbols Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: other Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Other Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: hanno at hboeck.de Created attachment 1748 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1748&action=edit claws-mail-3.15.0-fix-no-common.patch When including the pygtk headers they create some global symbols. See e.g. this in pygtk.h: #if defined(NO_IMPORT) || defined(NO_IMPORT_PYGTK) extern struct _PyGtk_FunctionStruct *_PyGtk_API; #else struct _PyGtk_FunctionStruct *_PyGtk_API; #endif If these headers get included multiple times then the symbol is defined multiple times, which is not strictly correct C. Other files using the same global symbol have to mark it with "extern". pygtk does that if some #define commands are set. claws includes these headers in two files (src/plugins/python/clawsmailmodule.c, src/plugins/python/python-hooks.c). Now by default gcc is lax with this and will accept duplicate symbols. However it can be turned into a more strict mode with the "-fno-common" flag. To reproduce: ./configure CFLAGS="-O2 -fno-common"; make It will show an error like this: .libs/python_la-python-hooks.o:(.bss+0x8): multiple definition of `_PyGObject_API' .libs/python_la-clawsmailmodule.o:(.bss+0x8): first defined here .libs/python_la-python-hooks.o:(.bss+0x0): multiple definition of `_PyGtk_API' .libs/python_la-clawsmailmodule.o:(.bss+0x0): first defined here To fix this the proper #define commands need to be set in one of the files including the pygtk headers. I have attached a patch to do that in clawsmailmodule.c. Please apply. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From lenard.lynch at gmail.com Sat Apr 29 22:17:22 2017 From: lenard.lynch at gmail.com (Lenard Lynch) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:17:22 -0500 Subject: [Users] Windows NNTP recipe/how-to pointer Message-ID: <009701d2c125$9ca4c340$d5ee49c0$@gmail.com> Apologies to the list. *NNTP is baked-in and working* (even though I didn't a libetpan plugin installed or named as such). If you don't find the option to specify an NNTP protocol in the UI, do this: "Configuration | Edit accounts | New" You should have NNTP available as a protocol now. Len Lynch Realizes: "Culture eats technology for breakfast." -Russ White (rule11.us) From andrej at kacian.sk Sat Apr 29 22:33:29 2017 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 22:33:29 +0200 Subject: [Users] Windows NNTP recipe/how-to pointer In-Reply-To: <009701d2c125$9ca4c340$d5ee49c0$@gmail.com> References: <009701d2c125$9ca4c340$d5ee49c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20170429223329.39d712c8@hiker> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:17:22 -0500 "Lenard Lynch" wrote: > Apologies to the list. > > *NNTP is baked-in and working* (even though I didn't a libetpan plugin > installed or named as such). > > If you don't find the option to specify an NNTP protocol in the UI, > do this: "Configuration | Edit accounts | New" > > You should have NNTP available as a protocol now. I was just writing a reply to your earlier post. :) Yes, NNTP support works just fine. There is no libetpan plugin. Libetpan is a library distributed with Claws Mail (you can find the DLL in the installation dir) which handles IMAP and NNTP protocol. So there is no need to look for any 3rd party DLLs. The bug report you linked to was talking about specific authentication mechanism (SASL), and in fact I shouldn't have even mentioned NNTP there, as Claws Mail does not support SASL for NNTP at all. (Any volunteers?) You should be able to use NNTP just fine, unless the server you are using happens to require SASL-based authentication for reading or posting. Regards, -- Andrej From lenard.lynch at gmail.com Sat Apr 29 23:59:19 2017 From: lenard.lynch at gmail.com (Lenard Lynch) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:59:19 -0500 Subject: [Users] Windows NNTP recipe/how-to pointer In-Reply-To: <009701d2c125$9ca4c340$d5ee49c0$@gmail.com> References: <009701d2c125$9ca4c340$d5ee49c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000301d2c133$da90eef0$8fb2ccd0$@gmail.com> Thank you Andrej! The other thing I notice is that it appears that NNTP subscribed groups are limited to 300 items fetched downloaded. Is there a way to tune this? Is there a way to specify checking for headers only, and downloading message bodies after selecting a message? Len Lynch (312) 656-4264 cell lenlynch at pobox.com Realizes: "Culture eats technology for breakfast." -Russ White From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Sun Apr 30 00:22:41 2017 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 23:22:41 +0100 Subject: [Users] Windows NNTP recipe/how-to pointer In-Reply-To: <000301d2c133$da90eef0$8fb2ccd0$@gmail.com> References: <009701d2c125$9ca4c340$d5ee49c0$@gmail.com> <000301d2c133$da90eef0$8fb2ccd0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20170429231946.000065b9@prost.fenrir.org.uk> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:59:19 -0500 "Lenard Lynch" wrote: > Thank you Andrej! > > The other thing I notice is that it appears that NNTP subscribed > groups are limited to 300 items fetched downloaded. > > Is there a way to tune this? Account preferences then Receive tab > > Is there a way to specify checking for headers only, and > downloading message bodies after selecting a message? Folder properties (Right click in folder pane) then Synchronise for offline use. -- Brian From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Sun Apr 30 02:01:47 2017 From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter Richards) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 10:01:47 +1000 Subject: [Users] Moving emails from another computer In-Reply-To: <20170429000052.04190ff1@jhegaala.localdomain> References: <20170429141132.089c0755@peter-asus64> <20170429000052.04190ff1@jhegaala.localdomain> Message-ID: <20170430100147.5491a46d@peter-asus64> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 00:00:52 -0600 Charles Curley wrote: > On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:11:32 +1000 > Peter Richards wrote: > > > I noticed there is a numbering system with Claws, each file/email > > has a unique name. During the few days that I ran Claws on another > > computer, there were a number of messages sent/received. > > > > How do I add those emails to the (new) Claws please ? > > Shut Claws down. Make sure the new emails have what will be unique > file names. Copy them into place. Restart Claws. Thanks, that worked fine. :) Peter From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Sun Apr 30 02:04:46 2017 From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter Richards) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 10:04:46 +1000 Subject: [Users] Moving emails from another computer In-Reply-To: <20170429082740.7ca0cbbf@utnubu> References: <20170429141132.089c0755@peter-asus64> <20170429152450.1a4b4523@peter-asus64> <20170429082740.7ca0cbbf@utnubu> Message-ID: <20170430100446.00632bc1@peter-asus64> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 08:27:40 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:11:32 +1000, Peter Richards wrote: > >How do I add those emails to the (new) Claws please ? There is a > >'File | Import mbox file' , however these files are not 'mbox', they > >are MailDir. > > The old Claws doesn't provide > > File > Export to mbox file... > > and/or > > File > Export Selected to mbox file... > > ? Thanks, I will use that method next time, as it is a lot easier than renaming 56 files to the naming convention that Claws uses. > On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:24:50 +1000, Peter Richards wrote: > >There is another 56 emails, all in one folder and all of the Claws > >format. Will it be okay to copy the rest into 'Drafts' without > >corrupting anything within Claws ? > > If you copy them with a file manager or by command line to Drafts or > any other empty folder, nothing should get corrupted. After that you > even could copy them from the Draft or any other folder, to another > folder that isn't empty, that already contains an email with the same > number, since then it would become a number higher, than the email > with the already highest number, but you need to do this step from > within Claws, not by using a file manager or command line. Okay thanks; understood now. :) Peter From peter777 at users.sourceforge.net Sun Apr 30 03:36:42 2017 From: peter777 at users.sourceforge.net (Peter Richards) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 11:36:42 +1000 Subject: [Users] Suitability of using Claws instead of KMail ? In-Reply-To: <20170428123820.38960cff@mydesk.domain.cxm> References: <2928017.WZe3LsGyL2@peter-asus64> <20170425102907.089e7096@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170425094640.5d3286ff.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <2303002.bH4VqSo2qb@peter-asus64> <20170426194322.521049c5.edodd55@gmail.com> <20170426202201.035e2d8a@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170428202233.76255fed@peter-Inspiron-3542> <20170428164541.7d82a1c5.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20170428123820.38960cff@mydesk.domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20170430113642.69d1c4a3@peter-asus64> Hi Steve, On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 12:38:20 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > You know that, and I know that, but imagine how daunting it would be > for Peter to have to quickly set up the whole IMAP bucket brigade: > Fetchmail to procmail to Dovecot to Claws. His priority was to get his > data out of Kmail2 while he still could, and from what I've read, he > has. > > Now that his data is safe, if Peter ever wants to dip his feet in the > personal IMAP waters, what he could do is use one email address, that > he seldom uses, as an entry to IMAP. He could start by getting it thru > fetchmail, and then set up Dovecot and procmail, and very slowly get > that whole thing working, including SSL. Setting this up doesn't put > at risk his email system. Once it's all set up, if he wants, he can > copy various directories to the new system, and set up fetchmail > sections and procmail recipes to directly load incoming emails of > certain categories to his new Dovecot. > > But for the time being, I say to Peter: Congratulations on saving your > data from that data muncher called Kmail. Yes, I agree. You have 'read' my situation very well. For now, I'm enjoying Claws and not having to content with KMail/akonadi. I almost have to pinch myself that I'm using such a fast and lightweight email client. Peter From codejodler at gmx.ch Sun Apr 30 13:32:17 2017 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Micha) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 13:32:17 +0200 Subject: [Users] claws sending one IMAP account syncs also disabled other accounts ? Message-ID: <20170430133217.36724fe5@lynx> When sending off mails for one IMAP account, claws tries to sync other IMAP and POP accounts too, wich i have disabled in the Accounts overview, and meanwhile also changed the passwords, so claws is asking me for the passwords, many times....) Can i somehow switch off this behavior ? Shouldn't 'disabled' just mean that, they are not synced or triggered in any way ? From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 30 13:40:17 2017 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 12:40:17 +0100 Subject: [Users] claws sending one IMAP account syncs also disabled other accounts ? In-Reply-To: <20170430133217.36724fe5@lynx> References: <20170430133217.36724fe5@lynx> Message-ID: <20170430124017.3e9dc01f@kujata> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 13:32:17 +0200 Micha wrote: > When sending off mails for one IMAP account, claws tries to sync > other IMAP and POP accounts too, wich i have disabled in the > Accounts overview, and meanwhile also changed the passwords, so > claws is asking me for the passwords, many times....) > > Can i somehow switch off this behavior ? Shouldn't 'disabled' just > mean that, they are not synced or triggered in any way ? When you use 'send queued messages' Claws Mail checks all queues of all accounts. To send msgs from just one, right-click the queue folder and choose 'send queue'. with regards Paul