From brad at fineby.me.uk Sat Oct 1 23:35:29 2016 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 22:35:29 +0100 Subject: [Users] GPG, Debian and Claws Message-ID: <20161001223529.215c7385@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Hello, As of today, Debian are shipping GPG2 as GPG. That is, 'modern' rather than 'classic'. Now, me being me, I can't get the darn thing to work with Claws. When I try to sign a message, I get the error; Could no queue message for sending; Signature failed: Data signing failed, No pinentry The thing is, pinentry (pinentry-qt, in fact) is installed. I've also followed the instructions at http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Plugins#How_do_I_configure_gpg-agent_and_the_PGP_plugin.3F regarding installation and setting for gpg, etc. I'd appreciate some guidance as to where/what I'm doing wrong. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" If you ain't sticking your knives in me, you will be eventually Monsoon - Robbie Williams From mir at miras.org Sat Oct 1 23:42:29 2016 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 23:42:29 +0200 Subject: [Users] GPG, Debian and Claws In-Reply-To: <20161001223529.215c7385@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20161001223529.215c7385@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20161001234229.54014239@sleipner.datanom.net> On Sat, 1 Oct 2016 22:35:29 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: > > I'd appreciate some guidance as to where/what I'm doing wrong. > What is your path setting for gpg in preferences -> plugins -> GPG Mine reads: /usr/bin/gpg2 -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: Man's reach must exceed his grasp, for why else the heavens? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From brad at fineby.me.uk Sun Oct 2 07:55:04 2016 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 06:55:04 +0100 Subject: [Users] GPG, Debian and Claws In-Reply-To: <20161001234229.54014239@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20161001223529.215c7385@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20161001234229.54014239@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20161002065504.2c950788@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Sat, 1 Oct 2016 23:42:29 +0200 Michael Rasmussen wrote: Hello Michael, >What is your path setting for gpg in preferences -> plugins -> GPG >Mine reads: /usr/bin/gpg2 /usr/bin/gpg I will point out that binary size for gpg & gpg2 is the same, gpg is not a symlink to gpg2 and 'gpg --version' reports; gpg (GnuPG) 2.1.15 libgcrypt 1.7.3-beta -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Just coz they do it in the movies, doesn't mean to say that it's cool Keep It Clean - The Vibrators From brad at fineby.me.uk Sun Oct 2 07:59:33 2016 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 06:59:33 +0100 Subject: [Users] GPG, Debian and Claws In-Reply-To: <20161001180304.7f2c1872@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> References: <20161001223529.215c7385@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20161001180304.7f2c1872@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> Message-ID: <20161002065933.50e80bdc@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Sat, 1 Oct 2016 18:03:04 -0400 Charles A Edwards wrote: Hello Charles, >It's caused because of gpg-agent running as daemon and pinentry/claws >is not configured to use it. Thanks Charles, that's done the trick. Next (silly?) question, how do I stop gpg-agent running as a daemon on next boot/login? I don't want to have to run your incantation every time I log in. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" We're going to hell anyway, let's travel first class Saturday Night - Kaiser Chiefs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 455 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Oct 2 08:41:08 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 06:41:08 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3703] New: The GData plugin does not load Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3703 Bug ID: 3703 Summary: The GData plugin does not load Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.14.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/GData Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: vishnugb at gmail.com When I try to load the GData plugin in Configuration > Plugins > Load > gdata.so , I get the following error message: libgdata.so.22: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Oct 2 08:56:15 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 06:56:15 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3703] The GData plugin does not load In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3703 --- Comment #1 from Ralf Mardorf --- Hi, I'm not a developer, just another user. Is the lib installed? Take a look with $ ls -l /usr/lib*/libgdata.so if it should be installed, try running $ sudo ldconfig if it's not installed, install it. Regards, Ralf -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Oct 2 08:58:38 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 06:58:38 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3703] The GData plugin does not load In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3703 --- Comment #2 from Ralf Mardorf --- Also take a look at $ ls -l /usr/local/lib*/libgdata.so -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Oct 2 09:02:33 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 07:02:33 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3703] The GData plugin does not load In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3703 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #3 from Paul --- You have, no doubt, installed the plugin from a disto package rather than building it yourself. The package is missing a dependency. The package is where the bug is. You need to install the libgdata package. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Oct 2 09:05:28 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 07:05:28 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3703] The GData plugin does not load In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3703 --- Comment #4 from Ralf Mardorf --- My apologies, I forgot the asterisks at the end $ ls -l /usr/lib*/libgdata.so* /usr/local/lib*/libgdata.so* -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Oct 2 11:07:37 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 09:07:37 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3703] The GData plugin does not load In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3703 --- Comment #5 from vishnugb at gmail.com --- (In reply to comment #3) > You have, no doubt, installed the plugin from a disto package rather than > building it yourself. The package is missing a dependency. The package is > where the bug is. You need to install the libgdata package. Yes, you were right. I installed it, and it work now. Thanks! Sorry. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From brad at fineby.me.uk Sun Oct 2 12:21:19 2016 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 11:21:19 +0100 Subject: [Users] {Solved} GPG, Debian and Claws In-Reply-To: <20161002065933.50e80bdc@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20161001223529.215c7385@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20161001180304.7f2c1872@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> <20161002065933.50e80bdc@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20161002112119.46d62fe5@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Sun, 2 Oct 2016 06:59:33 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: Hello, >Next (silly?) question, how do I stop gpg-agent running as a daemon on >next boot/login? I don't want to have to run your incantation every >time I log in. I've decided to compile/install gnupg v1.4.21 from source, and use that. Given the amount of stuff that uses gpg-agent, fiddling with it too much may be problematic. IDK for sure, but why take the risk, eh? :-) Thanks again to Charles and Michael for their assistance. TBH, I'd expected the change from v1* to v2* for use with CM to be a simple drop-in replacement. The way I see it that's a gnupg issue, not a CM one. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Now I found you out, I don't think you're so smart Who Are You - Black Sabbath -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Given the amount of stuff that uses gpg-agent, fiddling with it > too much may be problematic. IDK for sure, but why take the risk, > eh? :-) I hate the thought of you regressing to v1.4.21 (-; The high road it is. To allow gpg-agent|pinentry|claws to play nicely together the TTY being used has to be defined. Edit ~.bashrc (or the appropriate file if you are using a different shell) add the lines: GPG_TTY=$(tty) export GPG_TTY Run the commands or log-out and back-in. There should now be no issue with signing in claws even if agent is running. Charles -- Yow! I want my nose in lights! ---------------------- Mageia release 6 (Cauldron) for x86_64$ On SuperSize....http://www.eslrahc.com Registered Linux user #182463 4.7.5-server-1.mga6 x86_64 ---------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From brad at fineby.me.uk Sun Oct 2 19:48:51 2016 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 18:48:51 +0100 Subject: [Users] {Solved} GPG, Debian and Claws In-Reply-To: <20161002122920.6f0565fb@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> References: <20161001223529.215c7385@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20161001180304.7f2c1872@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> <20161002065933.50e80bdc@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20161002112119.46d62fe5@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20161002122920.6f0565fb@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> Message-ID: <20161002184851.796e88b1@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Sun, 2 Oct 2016 12:29:20 -0400 Charles A Edwards wrote: Hello Charles, >I hate the thought of you regressing to v1.4.21 (-; For me, it' snot really a problem; I don't really use GnuPG for anything much other than email signing. That said, it'd nice to get things working with v2 if at all possible. >Edit ~.bashrc (or the appropriate file if you are using a different >shell) >add the lines: >GPG_TTY=$(tty) >export GPG_TTY Done. Things working nicely. Also, notes made in the appropriate file here since (at some time) when I upgrade my hardware and re-install Debian, I *will* forget the above. Thanks again, Charles. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" It's only bits of plastic, lines projected on the wall Keep It Clean - The Vibrators -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From ricardo at mones.org Sun Oct 2 21:23:48 2016 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 21:23:48 +0200 Subject: [Users] Clawsker 1.0.0 unleashed! Message-ID: <20161002212348.5e6a21c0@busgosu> Hi all, Clawsker, the hidden preferences editor for Claws Mail has been released. Changes from the NEWS file: 1.0.0: - New plugins page to edit hidden preferences found in some plugins - New accounts page to edit hidden preferences of your accounts - Support hidden preference 'rewrite_first_from' (from git, to appear in next Claws Mail release) - New information page with detected versions - New CLI flag --read-only/-r to view preferences only (also works while Claws Mail is running) - Dropped support for Claws Mail versions lower than 3.9.1 - Preferences not found in file are initialized to default values - Translations: • Updated: Turkish, Brazilian Portuguese, Catalan, Dutch, Swedish, Norwegian Bokmål and Spanish • Dropped: Indonesian and Italian - And other minor improvements and fixes, see git log for details More details, outdated screenshots and download links on homepage: http://www.claws-mail.org/clawsker.php -- Ricardo Mones ~ Never send a human to do a machine's job. 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In-Reply-To: <20161002212348.5e6a21c0@busgosu> References: <20161002212348.5e6a21c0@busgosu> Message-ID: <20161002215600.73665c05@sleipner.datanom.net> Hi Mones, On Sun, 2 Oct 2016 21:23:48 +0200 Ricardo Mones wrote: > More details, outdated screenshots and download links on homepage: > http://www.claws-mail.org/clawsker.php > When will it hit Debian Unstable repos? -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: Yes, but will I see the EASTER BUNNY in skintight leather at an IRON MAIDEN concert? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From elcycrotom at netzero.net Mon Oct 3 17:50:42 2016 From: elcycrotom at netzero.net (elcycrotom at netzero.net) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 15:50:42 GMT Subject: [Users] (no subject) Message-ID: <20161003.105042.5499.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> remove please sudbe ths address... ____________________________________________________________ The Shocking Hillary Video We’re Not Supposed To Show You Health Sciences Institute http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/57f27e9a3b94f7e9a448est03duc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[was: GMail is really aggravating today...] Message-ID: <20161003123940.317e93f5@pfortin.com> Hi, Findings so far... can anyone help out with a clue stick(s)? Certificates on mail check (gmail) contain the following links (from wireshark trace). Important to note that I got the same results on successful and failing mail checks[0]: - http://pki.google.com/GIAG2.crt certificate file [1] [6] - http://clients1.google.com/ocsp Online Certificate Status Protocol[2] - http://pki.google.com/GIAG2.crl certificate file [4] - http://g.symcd.com returns 5-byte file: <8_random_chars>.ors [5] - http://g.symcb.com/crls/gtglobal.crl certificate file - http://crl.geotrust.com/crls/secureca.crl changes occasionally[3] - https://www.geotrust.com/resources/repository root cert website [0] I have 2 CM instance with 3 active GMail accounts each (several inactive). I don't understand how one [random] gmail account fails randomly while the others in the same scan work... [1] Returns "already installed" when accessed via Firefox [2] returns 404 error; BUT... see Note below [3] small file (347 bytes) -- internal timestamp+? changes Note: http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/definition/OCSP indicates that OCSP is superseding CRL (Certificate Revocation List). Is this something CM has to address, or automatically via a lib? I then compared this to LuxSci.com (email service I pay for); IMNSHO, they do a WAY better job for email than Google. - http://gn.symcb.com/gn.crl certificate file [4] - https://www.geotrust.com/resources/repository/legal root cert website - http://gn.symcd.com returns 5-byte file: <8_random_chars>.ors [5] - http://gn.symcb.com/gn.crt certificate file [6] - http://g1.symcb.com/crls/gtglobal.crl certificate file - http://g2.symcb.com returns a .ors file - http://www.geotrust.com/resources/cps resolves to above legal link [4] the LuxSci crl file is ~ 10 times larger than the GMail crl. These files vary depending on source: $ ll *crl -rw-rw-r-- 13212 Oct 3 10:06 GIAG2.crl -rw-rw-r-- 122137 Oct 3 11:36 gn.crl -rw-rw-r-- 347 Oct 3 10:12 secureca.crl [5] all .ors files are identical [6] .crt files are identical Aside: I have 3 gmail accounts on my Android phone in K-9 MUA, and it has not seen any such problem in the same time period. Same network, DNS, etc... For completeness, I had switched to OpenDNS servers about the same time this started. Now using google DNS (8.8.8.8 & 8.8.4.4) and still seeing the problem. Any other suggestions to help track down this: "Signature status: No certificate issuer found"? I have no problem digging; but a road sign(s) would help... Thanks & HTH, Pierre PS Both CM instances use only POP3 (so does my K-9). On Sun, 2 Oct 2016 20:46:37 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote: >Hi, > >I've been running 2 instances of CM for many years. In case it matters, >today, I updated from 3.14.0-87 to 3.14.0-106. Until now, CM has been >quietly accepting GMail's toggling SSL certs. Now, CM has been stalling >on both instances waiting for Accept and save to be clicked. > >So... in one instance, I set ALL accounts to: > > ssl_certs_auto_accept=0 > >and ALL the accounts in the other instance to: > > ssl_certs_auto_accept=1 > >and both instances are still displaying the SSL cert dialogs. I've >probably hit Accept and save over 50 times today... :P > >Looking at the .claws-mail/certs files, only the pop.gmail.com.* files >have been updated today. The smtp ones were last touched in Feb and Sept >respectively. > >Attached image of simultaneous cert dialogs and the settings at the time. > >Ideas? > >Cheers, >Pierre > > > > > > From thanotos2004 at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 19:57:50 2016 From: thanotos2004 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?6YSS57+85YewIEFsZXhhbmRlciBUaGFub3Rvcw==?=) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2016 01:57:50 +0800 Subject: [Users] Deleted mail don't go to designated folder Message-ID: Using Claws Mail 3.14.0 in Windows 10 and set a IMAP account First trial on delete hundreds of mail, eleven of them go to Trash, others marked as "To be moved"(understandable for IMAP, but don't know why 11 of them go to Trash directly). Then unmark the "To be moved" and set "Put deleted messages in" to a folder inside IMAP called "Deleted Items" Second trial on delete tens of mail, 3 of them go to "Deleted Items", others marked as "To be moved", then I decided to Expunge it, the Expunge is greyed out, as well as "Execute". On occasion, a pop up will say "Process Mark. Some marks are left. Process them?". Click Yes but the mail still inside Inbox but are not moved to "Deleted Items" or "Trash". What should I do to really first delete the mail so the they move to "Deleted Items" and the I can decide to further delete and expunge the items? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrej at kacian.sk Tue Oct 4 15:15:54 2016 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2016 15:15:54 +0200 Subject: [Users] Deleted mail don't go to designated folder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20161004151554.00007221@kacian.sk> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 01:57:50 +0800 鄒翼凰 Alexander Thanotos wrote: > Using Claws Mail 3.14.0 in Windows 10 and set a IMAP account > > First trial on delete hundreds of mail, eleven of them go to Trash, > others marked as "To be moved"(understandable for IMAP, but don't > know why 11 of them go to Trash directly). > > Then unmark the "To be moved" and set "Put deleted messages in" to a > folder inside IMAP called "Deleted Items" > > Second trial on delete tens of mail, 3 of them go to "Deleted > Items", others marked as "To be moved", then I decided to Expunge it, > the Expunge is greyed out, as well as "Execute". On occasion, a pop > up will say "Process Mark. Some marks are left. Process them?". Click > Yes but the mail still inside Inbox but are not moved to "Deleted > Items" or "Trash". > > What should I do to really first delete the mail so the they move to > "Deleted Items" and the I can decide to further delete and expunge the > items? > Hi, that seems like some limitation of your IMAP server. I am able to move to trash several thousands of messages at once. Granted, I am on Windows 7, but that shouldn't really make a difference. Perhaps your IMAP server (or something along the network path) cuts off the connection after moving first few messages, and the rest remains unmoved? Hard to say without seeing what you see. Regards, -- Andrej From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Oct 4 22:17:37 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2016 20:17:37 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3705] New: active account Mail Address corrupted when vcalendar loaded Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3705 Bug ID: 3705 Summary: active account Mail Address corrupted when vcalendar loaded Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/vCalendar Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: pf at pfortin.com Updated to 3.14.0-git 107. Composed message on the CM instance that had vcalendar loaded and when I hit Send, got a error about my send address. Loaded vcalendar in other CM instance, and my email address gets corrupted. Closing CM saves corrupted address in accountrc Unloaded vcalendar in both instances and OK again. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Oct 4 22:25:05 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2016 20:25:05 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3706] New: folder selection race condition on startup Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3706 Bug ID: 3706 Summary: folder selection race condition on startup Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Folder List Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: pf at pfortin.com With multiple accounts which takes a few seconds to startup. When the folder list appears, if I select a folder which is highlighted (new mail), it is opened momentarily, then the open folder switches to the last folder which was open when I closed CM. Noticed this over time; but it was more obvious today as I was restarting CM several times to figure out what was eventually reported as bug 3705. Running 3.14.0-git107 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Oct 4 22:29:46 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2016 20:29:46 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3705] active account Mail Address corrupted when vcalendar loaded In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3705 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Oct 4 22:30:55 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2016 20:30:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3706] folder selection race condition on startup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3706 Pierre Fortin changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|normal |enhancement --- Comment #1 from Pierre Fortin --- The unexpected folder switch occurs at the end of mail checking. If user selects a folder during startup, block the auto-open. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Oct 4 22:49:10 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2016 20:49:10 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3705] active account Mail Address corrupted when vcalendar loaded In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3705 --- Comment #1 from Pierre Fortin --- Created attachment 1689 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1689&action=edit debug log log file showing bug occurs. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Oct 5 01:08:51 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2016 23:08:51 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3705] active account Mail Address corrupted when vcalendar loaded In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3705 --- Comment #2 from Ricardo Mones --- Curious, I suffered a similar episode this morning and had to checkout the accountrc file from git to recover the single email address which was replaced with four bytes of noise. The episode involved also crashes which disappeared when running under gdb. After recovering accountrc all went fine. I thought it was some file corruption, but now that I saw this report seems it wasn't... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Oct 5 09:48:18 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2016 07:48:18 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3705] active account Mail Address corrupted when vcalendar loaded In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3705 Ricardo Mones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|WORKSFORME |--- -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Oct 5 09:49:54 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2016 07:49:54 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3705] active account Mail Address corrupted when address in Message-ID is used In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3705 Ricardo Mones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|active account Mail Address |active account Mail Address |corrupted when vcalendar |corrupted when address in |loaded |Message-ID is used -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Oct 5 09:56:48 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2016 07:56:48 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3705] active account Mail Address corrupted when address in Message-ID is used In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3705 Ricardo Mones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #3 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2016-10-05 09:53:02.752052081 +0200 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=dcd7355f755567b4b4f1d98cb8168e15cf2c3def Merge: ad14fa3 73ba30d Author: Colin Leroy Date: Wed Oct 5 09:53:02 2016 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=73ba30d10ad422feef0a8c3de5b178349ccb39f3 Author: Ricardo Mones Date: Wed Oct 5 09:51:31 2016 +0200 Fix bug #3705: active account Mail Address corrupted… …when address in Message-ID is used -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Oct 5 22:53:01 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2016 20:53:01 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3611] Selection of next message after manual filtering In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3611 --- Comment #3 from Tristan Miller --- I'm suffering from this problem too. It happens not only when filtering, but also when executing actions. Tweaking the settings in Preferences:Display:Summaries seems to have no effect. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From johnxj at comcast.net Thu Oct 6 06:25:13 2016 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 21:25:13 -0700 Subject: [Users] Unable to send to my university account (IMAP) Message-ID: <20161005212513.04e9302a@Devil-Bonobo> Claws Mail 3.9.3 from repositories on Xubuntu 14.04, up to date. I have had my university e-mail account set up with IMAP for several years. Until recently there has been no problem, but recently I am unable to send. Receiving, however, still works fine. In the configuration for the account sending and receiving are set with the same password. I copy and paste here from the log after a recent failed send: [21:17:44] IMAP4- [fetching flags...] [21:17:44] IMAP4> 151 UID FETCH 1:* (FLAGS UID) [21:17:44] IMAP4< * 1 FETCH (UID 152 [21:17:44] IMAP4< FLAGS (\Seen)) [21:17:44] IMAP4< 151 OK Success [21:17:44] IMAP4> 152 APPEND Queue (\Seen) {1174} [21:17:44] IMAP4< + go ahead [21:17:44] IMAP4> [data - 1176 bytes] [21:17:44] IMAP4< * 2 EXISTS [21:17:44] IMAP4< 152 OK [21:17:44] IMAP4< [APPENDUID 651579169 153] (Succes [21:17:44] IMAP4< s) [21:17:44] IMAP4> 153 UID STORE 153 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen) [21:17:44] IMAP4< 153 OK Success [21:17:44] IMAP4> 154 UID STORE 152 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted) [21:17:44] IMAP4< * 1 EXPUNGE [21:17:44] IMAP4< * 1 EXISTS [21:17:44] IMAP4< 154 OK Su [21:17:44] IMAP4< ccess [21:17:44] IMAP4> 155 EXPUNGE [21:17:44] IMAP4< 155 OK Success * Account 'PSU-JOH2': Connecting to SMTP server: smtp.gmail.com:465... *** SSL handshake failed *** Error occurred while sending the message. [21:17:45] IMAP4> 156 UID STORE 153 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted) [21:17:45] IMAP4< * 1 EXPUNGE [21:17:45] IMAP4< * 0 EXISTS [21:17:45] IMAP4< 156 OK Su [21:17:45] IMAP4< ccess [21:17:45] IMAP4> 157 EXPUNGE [21:17:45] IMAP4< 157 OK Success [21:17:45] IMAP4- [fetching UIDs...] [21:17:45] IMAP4> 158 UID FETCH 1:* (UID) [21:17:45] IMAP4< 158 OK Success [21:18:27] IMAP4> 159 NOOP [21:18:28] IMAP4< 159 OK Success I hope someone can give me some clues. From mir at miras.org Thu Oct 6 08:30:32 2016 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 08:30:32 +0200 Subject: [Users] Unable to send to my university account (IMAP) In-Reply-To: <20161005212513.04e9302a@Devil-Bonobo> References: <20161005212513.04e9302a@Devil-Bonobo> Message-ID: <20161006083032.16b9fc1a@sleipner.datanom.net> On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 21:25:13 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: > Claws Mail 3.9.3 from repositories on Xubuntu 14.04, up to date. > > > I hope someone can give me some clues. > You need to upgrade to a newer version since your version of claws uses an ancient SSL implementation which is no longer accepted in various places. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: Q: How was Thomas J. Watson buried? A: 9 edge down. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 163 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Oct 6 08:58:19 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 07:58:19 +0100 Subject: [Users] Unable to send to my university account (IMAP) In-Reply-To: <20161005212513.04e9302a@Devil-Bonobo> References: <20161005212513.04e9302a@Devil-Bonobo> Message-ID: <20161006075819.640ea3ec@kujata> On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 21:25:13 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: > Claws Mail 3.9.3 from repositories on Xubuntu 14.04, up to date. You can get a newer (not the latest) release here for 14.04: https://launchpad.net/~claws-mail/+archive/ubuntu/ppa Installing that should solve your problem. with regards Paul From wrosner at tirnet.de Thu Oct 6 11:42:29 2016 From: wrosner at tirnet.de (Wolfgang Rosner) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 11:42:29 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to print Headers on HTML mails ? Message-ID: <20161006114229.6b7d0a67@wjrws3.rosner.lokal> Hello, fellow claws users, can anybody tell me how to print formatted html mails including the essential header information? I'd expect at least, "From:", "To:", "cc:", date/time and subject. I know that printing emails is on the "don't do" list for many people, but there are occasional situations where I want to keep a pdf or even paper copy for reference, legal proof or forwarding to digitally disabled people. I use claws 3.11.1 from debian jessie in German locale. "Fancy" is configured for HTMl display. At the moment, I use the following workaround: In "Settings / Message display / text settings " I have [X] Display HTML as text [ ] use plugin for plain HTML messages [ ] display HTML for 'multipart alternative' messages (sorry, retranslated from German locale, menu text may not match exactly) In this settings, HTML is shown as plain text, including the headers, and printed this way. But I have to switch manually to HTML view to see them as formatted, and cannot print the formatted message. When I toggle the three switchtes above, I see the formatted messages in the reader, but the headers are shown outside the display windows on a different widget and not included in printing. Any proposals for a simple solution? Thanks! -- Wolfgang Rosner From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Oct 6 20:32:07 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2016 18:32:07 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3638] GData Plugin fails after initial Google handshake In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3638 lbickley changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|FIXED |--- --- Comment #13 from lbickley --- Currently running: System Information GTK+ 2.24.31 / GLib 2.44.1 Locale: en_US.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8) Operating System: Linux 4.1.31-30-default (x86_64) Claws Mail version 3.14.0-110-g80798c I've been observing the logs daily since the latest upgrade to GDATA and there have been none of the failures that I previously experienced.l Regular refresh is occuring: * GData plugin: Elapsed time since last refresh: 60 minutes, refreshing now * GData plugin: Authorization refresh successful * GData plugin: Starting async contacts query Thanks for the fix!!!! Cheers, Lyle -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Oct 6 21:45:09 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2016 19:45:09 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3638] GData Plugin fails after initial Google handshake In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3638 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com Fri Oct 7 03:06:49 2016 From: jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com (Jeremy Schneider) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 01:06:49 +0000 Subject: [Users] How to print Headers on HTML mails ? In-Reply-To: <20161006114229.6b7d0a67@wjrws3.rosner.lokal> References: <20161006114229.6b7d0a67@wjrws3.rosner.lokal> Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Wolfgang Rosner wrote: > can anybody tell me how to print formatted html mails including the > essential header information? We just had a discussion about this a few months back. I am also interested in this functionality; it would be very useful. http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2016-June/016704.html http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2802 -Jeremy -- http://about.me/jeremy_schneider From johnxj at comcast.net Fri Oct 7 05:20:14 2016 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 20:20:14 -0700 Subject: [Users] Unable to send to my university account (IMAP) In-Reply-To: <20161006075819.640ea3ec@kujata> References: <20161005212513.04e9302a@Devil-Bonobo> <20161006075819.640ea3ec@kujata> Message-ID: <20161006202014.28ef298e@Devil-Bonobo> On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 07:58:19 +0100 Paul dijo: >On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 21:25:13 -0700 >John Jason Jordan wrote: > >> Claws Mail 3.9.3 from repositories on Xubuntu 14.04, up to date. > >You can get a newer (not the latest) release here for 14.04: >https://launchpad.net/~claws-mail/+archive/ubuntu/ppa > >Installing that should solve your problem. Thanks to Paul and Michael. The PPA and then updating Claws Mail solved the problem. :) From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Oct 7 21:04:19 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2016 19:04:19 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3707] New: Impossible to type @ in the Italian version Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3707 Bug ID: 3707 Summary: Impossible to type @ in the Italian version Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail (Windows) Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Windows 10 Status: NEW Severity: major Priority: P3 Component: default Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: nicola-marras at alice.it I have Claws Mail (Italian Version)in three computers: Windows XP, Windows 7 and Windows 10. In all it is impossible to type @ when I write the mail address. Only possibility is copy and paste. A VERY annoing bug that I do not had using an English version. A question: it is possiblee to export the settings to another computer? Best regards, Nicola Marras -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From wrosner at tirnet.de Sat Oct 8 08:37:20 2016 From: wrosner at tirnet.de (Wolfgang Rosner) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2016 08:37:20 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to print Headers on HTML mails ? In-Reply-To: References: <20161006114229.6b7d0a67@wjrws3.rosner.lokal> Message-ID: <20161008083720.7998ef1a@wjrws3.rosner.lokal> Thank you, Jeremy, for the pointers. As I see, the discussion in bug #2802 refers to screen view only. This is simply solved by always having the headers on. But it does not refer to printing. I'd confirm http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2016-June/016726.html "The inability to print out simple email headers on HTML based email is a serious deal breaker." and add this to the list of "why you will not want to use claws mail". But this is not the way FOSS works, right? And apart from that glitch, I like claws in favour to some other bloatware and got used to it for half a year now. So what can we do to get it done? I can add my vote to the case, but will this suffice? Is there some kind of scriptable wrapper between claws and the "funny" renderer? It should not be that difficult to convert some header stuff to html, right? Or does it require the modification of the plugin itself? Where can I find pointers to the architecture and the relevant source code? -- Wolfgang Rosner Am Fri, 7 Oct 2016 01:06:49 +0000 schrieb Jeremy Schneider : > On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Wolfgang Rosner > wrote: > > can anybody tell me how to print formatted html mails including the > > essential header information? > > We just had a discussion about this a few months back. I am also > interested in this functionality; it would be very useful. > > http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2016-June/016704.html > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2802 > > -Jeremy > > -- > http://about.me/jeremy_schneider From wrosner at tirnet.de Sat Oct 8 08:59:58 2016 From: wrosner at tirnet.de (Wolfgang Rosner) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2016 08:59:58 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to print Headers on HTML mails ? In-Reply-To: <20161008083720.7998ef1a@wjrws3.rosner.lokal> References: <20161006114229.6b7d0a67@wjrws3.rosner.lokal> <20161008083720.7998ef1a@wjrws3.rosner.lokal> Message-ID: <20161008085958.3f21448b@wjrws3.rosner.lokal> Am Sat, 8 Oct 2016 08:37:20 +0200 schrieb Wolfgang Rosner : Here are some first results of my research for a solution: > Is there some kind of scriptable wrapper between claws and the "funny" > renderer? It should not be that difficult to convert some header stuff > to html, right? I found an extensibility hook in the manual: http://www.claws-mail.org/documentation.php?section=general Advanced features Actions Actions allow you to use all the power of the Unix command-line with your emails. I gave it a try and find that I can deliver the whole message (body and header) to the text editor kate, if I select the whole message in the view when calling my new generated action. So what is required is some command line mail viewer, which converts an HTML- or or multipart-email to sth like pdf or PS and pipe this into a PDF viewer, showing both HTML body and header. Is anybody aware of something like that? I tried other (bloatware) mailers from the garbage pile left on my machine (kate, icedove, evolution), but none works in the first instance. Maybe I had to play with their command line options? Or do I have to write a Perl script? > Or does it require the modification of the plugin itself? > Where can I find pointers to the architecture and the relevant source > code? OK - the source is here http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=blob;f=src/plugins/fancy/fancy_viewer.c;h=bafeb0b235f3e0d11d130ebef0a8ce5ec10cd84b;hb=HEAD I'd guess that this is the hook that is called by CM 852 static MimeViewer *fancy_viewer_create(void) 863 viewer->mimeviewer.show_mimepart = fancy_show_mimepart; and here the step where the file to print is sent to the viewer 275 static void fancy_show_mimepart(MimeViewer *_viewer, const gchar *infile, MimeInfo *partinfo) While this might be a natural point to intervene the display of the data, It would require extensive debugging to find out whether the header information is available at all at this place. In the experiments with "Action" above, I see that I only get the body delivered when I select the HTML-Part to call "fancy". So I'm afraid, the headers are not delivered in the "infile". Wolfgang Rosner From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Oct 8 15:40:52 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2016 13:40:52 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3708] New: Message flag/option to exempt individual messages from filtering and processing Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3708 Bug ID: 3708 Summary: Message flag/option to exempt individual messages from filtering and processing Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.14.0 Hardware: PC OS: Windows 10 Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: Filtering Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: alt.rw-9o6f8p42 at yopmail.com If messages are filtered and processed based on certain message criteria (sender, subject, etc.), filtering or processing may sometimes give an unwanted result, which cannot easily be solved by adapting the filter or processing rules. In these instances it is sometimes the easiest solution to call it a rare exception and change the outcome manually (i.e., move the mail to another folder, assign a different label, etc.). However, if filter and processing rules are reapplied to the respective e-mails, they will revert the manual changes, which is certain to happen if processing rules are configured to be applied whenever a folder is opened. It would be helpful to be able to exempt individual messages from filtering and processing in order to protect manual changes from being reverted. This option should be easily accessible through the context menu: (...) Add filter rule > (...) Add processing rule > (...) Exempt from filtering > filter rules > processing rules > both (...) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Oct 9 01:15:55 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2016 23:15:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3707] Impossible to type @ in the Italian version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3707 --- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian --- Since there is no Italian version of Claws Mail, I assume you mean Claws Mail on Windows system set to Italian locale. I do not have Italian Windows available, but I tried to reproduce it on English Windows (7) by choosing Italian language for Claws Mail, and Italian keyboard layout in Windows. Typing @ (AltGr plus key where English layout has a semicolon), but it worked fine. Can you do following two tests? 1. Does typing @ work when you have English keyboard layout active? 2. Open cmd.exe window and enter following commands: cd "c:\Program Files (x86)\Claws Mail" set LC_ALL=en_US claws-mail.exe Claws Mail should start in English language. Does typing @ work now with Italian or English keyboard layout? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Oct 9 01:17:41 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2016 23:17:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3707] Impossible to type @ in the Italian version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3707 --- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian --- Another question: Does typing @ work outside of the Compose window? For example, hit / to get a quicksearch bar. Are you able to type @ in the search entry? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Oct 9 02:25:17 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2016 00:25:17 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3708] Message flag/option to exempt individual messages from filtering and processing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3708 --- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian --- If I remember correctly, locking a message (menu /Message/Mark/Lock, or just Mark/Lock when right-clicking a message in summary view) accomplishes that. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Oct 9 11:42:28 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2016 09:42:28 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3709] New: NNTP uses net in offline mode Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3709 Bug ID: 3709 Summary: NNTP uses net in offline mode Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.13.2 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: NNTP Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: flammie at iki.fi My wireless internet connection broke so I went to offline mode to browse through all downloaded messages, but when clicking next message into an nntp folder started download, which in turn made the whole claws-mail hang for minutes. I find this bug critical since I also use offline mode to avoid high roaming charges and had I known that it still downloads all news, I might have saved dozens or maybe hundreds of euros. Offline mode must not use data in my opinion. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Oct 9 11:57:16 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2016 09:57:16 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3710] New: Fancy plugin: Upgrade to webkit2 ? Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3710 Bug ID: 3710 Summary: Fancy plugin: Upgrade to webkit2 ? Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.14.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/Fancy Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: klaus.kusche at computerix.info Webkit 2.4.x (the last release with webkit1 api support) is deprecated, unmaintained for almsot 3 years, does not support gtk3, and has not even received security fixes for quite some time. Any chance to switch to webkit versions based on the current webkit2 api? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Oct 9 12:10:13 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2016 10:10:13 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3709] NNTP uses net in offline mode In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3709 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Paul --- It respects offline mode. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Oct 9 12:20:20 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2016 10:20:20 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3708] Message flag/option to exempt individual messages from filtering and processing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3708 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WONTFIX --- Comment #2 from Paul --- You can add a filtering rule with a 'stop filter' Action to match the messages which you want skipped by the following rules. You can filter on just about any aspect of the message, so you should not have a problem finding something to work for you. With this comment and Andrej's, I am closing this. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Oct 9 13:46:02 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2016 11:46:02 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3710] Fancy plugin: Upgrade to webkit2 ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3710 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE --- Comment #1 from Paul --- newer versions of webkit api do not support GTK 2, only GTK 3. Claws Mail is GTK 2. bug #2371 is RFE for 'port to gtk 3', when that happens the fancy plugin will have to be updated, so this separate RFE doesn't make sense. Therefore I'm closing it as a duplicate. *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 2371 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Oct 9 13:46:02 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2016 11:46:02 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2371] Port to GTK+3.0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2371 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |klaus.kusche at computerix.inf | |o --- Comment #43 from Paul --- *** Bug 3710 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Oct 9 14:14:19 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2016 12:14:19 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3710] Fancy plugin: Upgrade to webkit2 ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3710 Klaus Kusche changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|DUPLICATE |--- --- Comment #2 from Klaus Kusche --- This is not just a RFE. It is a security problem: As far as I know, up to now close to 200 security fixes have been committed to the webkit2 versions which have not been applied to 2.4.x (i.e. webkit1). And there is a definite statement of the webkit development team that there will be no security backports to old webkit versions. See e.g. https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatanzaro/2016/02/01/on-webkit-security-updates/ The linux distribution I use is already discussing if and when webkit 2.4.x should be dropped for security reasons. If claws really wants long-term gtk2 support, I think it would have to switch from webkit to cef for html mail support. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Oct 9 14:36:51 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2016 12:36:51 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3710] Fancy plugin: Upgrade to webkit2 ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3710 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE --- Comment #3 from Paul --- (In reply to comment #2) That is now a different issue. Re-closing. *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 2371 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Oct 9 14:36:51 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2016 12:36:51 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2371] Port to GTK+3.0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2371 --- Comment #44 from Paul --- *** Bug 3710 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com Sun Oct 9 16:41:54 2016 From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2016 16:41:54 +0200 Subject: [Users] Unwanted signature padding Message-ID: <20161009164154.3f3463a9.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Dear all, I've been using KMail for over fifteen years, but due to some showstopping bugs in recent versions I'm trying out Claws Mail. Except for a couple minor annoyances, everything seems to be working well so far. One of these annoyances is the placement of signatures. I have Claws Mail configured (via Configuration -> Edit Accounts… -> Edit -> Account -> Compose -> Signature) to automatically insert my signature from a file. I find that, in the Compose window, Claws Mail automatically inserts three newlines before the signature. Is this a bug or a feature? If it's a feature, what purpose is it supposed to serve, and is there any way I can disable it? Regards, Tristan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tristan Miller Free Software developer, ferret herder, logologist https://logological.org/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 801 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From ricardo at mones.org Sun Oct 9 17:21:08 2016 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2016 17:21:08 +0200 Subject: [Users] Unwanted signature padding In-Reply-To: <20161009164154.3f3463a9.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> References: <20161009164154.3f3463a9.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Message-ID: <20161009172108.708bf308@busgosu> Hi, On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 16:41:54 +0200 Tristan Miller wrote: > One of these annoyances is the placement of signatures. I have > Claws Mail configured (via Configuration -> Edit Accounts… -> Edit -> > Account -> Compose -> Signature) to automatically insert my signature > from a file. I find that, in the Compose window, Claws Mail > automatically inserts three newlines before the signature. Is this a > bug or a feature? If it's a feature, what purpose is it supposed to > serve, and is there any way I can disable it? I never seen that, so I suspect is a problem on your side. Check that: • your signature file doesn't have 3 newlines at the beginning • your templates don't have extra newlines (Configuration menu, Preferences option, Compose/Templates panel) • you're not using folder templates and they also doesn't have extra lines (right click on folder you're composing from, Properties option, Templates panel). regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ The world will end in 5 minutes. Please log out. Unknown -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From brad at fineby.me.uk Sun Oct 9 17:19:01 2016 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2016 16:19:01 +0100 Subject: [Users] Unwanted signature padding In-Reply-To: <20161009164154.3f3463a9.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> References: <20161009164154.3f3463a9.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Message-ID: <20161009161901.64b5a1d6@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 16:41:54 +0200 Tristan Miller wrote: Hello Tristan, >from a file. I find that, in the Compose window, Claws Mail >automatically inserts three newlines before the signature. It doesn't here. Possibly there are blank spaces/newlines in you signature file and/or at the end of the email you're quoting. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" You never listen to a word that I said Public Image - Public Image Ltd -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 455 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com Sun Oct 9 17:51:20 2016 From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2016 17:51:20 +0200 Subject: [Users] Unwanted signature padding In-Reply-To: <20161009172108.708bf308@busgosu> References: <20161009164154.3f3463a9.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20161009172108.708bf308@busgosu> Message-ID: <20161009175120.42d927ce.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Greetings. On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 17:21:08 +0200, Ricardo Mones > > One of these annoyances is the placement of signatures. I have > > Claws Mail configured (via Configuration -> Edit Accounts… -> Edit > > -> Account -> Compose -> Signature) to automatically insert my > > signature from a file. I find that, in the Compose window, Claws > > Mail automatically inserts three newlines before the signature. Is > > this a bug or a feature? If it's a feature, what purpose is it > > supposed to serve, and is there any way I can disable it? > > I never seen that, so I suspect is a problem on your side. Check that: > > • your signature file doesn't have 3 newlines at the beginning > • your templates don't have extra newlines (Configuration menu, > Preferences option, Compose/Templates panel) > • you're not using folder templates and they also doesn't have extra > lines (right click on folder you're composing from, Properties > option, Templates panel). None of these conditions hold. My signature file doesn't have any newlines at the beginning. I am not using any compose template, and my reply template does not have any trailing newlines. I am not using any folder templates. On further experimentation, I think Claws Mail is probably just adding two newlines' worth of padding. The third newline is added after the signature separator (which is blank for me, since my signature file already includes the standard separator). Regards, Tristan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tristan Miller Free Software developer, ferret herder, logologist https://logological.org/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 801 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dave at howorth.org.uk Sun Oct 9 18:49:12 2016 From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2016 17:49:12 +0100 Subject: [Users] Unwanted signature padding In-Reply-To: <20161009175120.42d927ce.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> References: <20161009164154.3f3463a9.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20161009172108.708bf308@busgosu> <20161009175120.42d927ce.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Message-ID: <20161009174912.427c9da6@acer-suse.lan> The end of your mail appears in my claws to contain the following sequence: ... already includes the standard separator). Regards, Tristan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tristan Miller ... So I don't see any 3 newline sequences. Where are they, or are they simply an artefact at composition-time? Cheers, Dave From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com Sun Oct 9 19:08:58 2016 From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2016 19:08:58 +0200 Subject: [Users] Unwanted signature padding In-Reply-To: <20161009174912.427c9da6@acer-suse.lan> References: <20161009164154.3f3463a9.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20161009172108.708bf308@busgosu> <20161009175120.42d927ce.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20161009174912.427c9da6@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: <20161009190858.7f8dfe31.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Greetings. On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 17:49:12 +0100, Dave Howorth wrote: > The end of your mail appears in my claws to contain the following > sequence: That's because I always manually delete the extraneous newlines in the Compose window. > So I don't see any 3 newline sequences. Where are they, or are they > simply an artefact at composition-time? When I start a new message (via "Compose" or "Reply") the blank lines appear in the Compose window after the template (if any) but before my signature. Here are some screenshots illustrating my settings and the problem: Compose preferences for my default account: http://files.nothingisreal.com/tmp/claws-prefs.png Compose template preferences for my default account: http://files.nothingisreal.com/tmp/claws-templates.png My signature file, showing a conspicuous lack of leading newlines: http://files.nothingisreal.com/tmp/claws-signature.png Compose window with no template, showing the three extraneous newlines before the signature: http://files.nothingisreal.com/tmp/claws-compose.png Some further information: I find that if I manually change the signature separator to something else, apply the change, then remove it again and apply the change, then new messages I compose get two leading newlines rather than three. This behaviour persists until I restart Claws Mail, after which it goes back to inserting three newlines again. Regards, Tristan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tristan Miller Free Software developer, ferret herder, logologist https://logological.org/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 801 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Oct 9 21:21:59 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2016 19:21:59 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2035] don't download attachments when opening mail for reading In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2035 --- Comment #10 from Pedro --- Adding a bump to this old issue I found after getting stuck trying to follow a large email thread (where none of the participants bothered to strip the first message's 2+ MB attachment) on a slow 3G link. I guess this feature will only be useful for a small fraction of users, so maybe it could be hidden under a hidden pref. I might take a stab at implementing this if there's a developer wiling to help me figure out the proper way to integrate this with the current code. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From slitt at troubleshooters.com Mon Oct 10 06:16:16 2016 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 00:16:16 -0400 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3326] customizing keyboard shortcuts collides with menu shortcuts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20161010001616.313aba87@mydesk.domain.cxm> On Sun, 09 Oct 2016 15:34:23 +0000, noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3326 > > --- Comment #1 from Tristan Miller --- > Still reproducible with Claws Mail 3.14.0. Is there a workaround for > defining keyboard shortcuts? Perhaps by editing ~/.claws-mail/menurc? Yes. This is a well known problem, with a solution, and yes, editing ~/.claws-mail/.menurc is part of that solution. 1) Using the normal hotkey method, set your selection's hotkey to F11 or something else both recognizeable and unused. 2) Exit claws-mail. All invocations of Claws-Mail. 3) Edit ~/.claws-mail/.menurc and search for the F11 or whatever you just put in. 4) Change it to your desired hotkey. Use the rest of .menurc for examples of expressions of hotkeys. 5) Save .menurc and exit. 6) Run Claws-Mail. If you did everything right, your desired hotkey will be in effect. I thought I had documented this on my business website, but it turns out I haven't. Hopefully I soon will. HTH, SteveT Steve Litt == Whose business shall never be mentioned on the Claws-Mail List == From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Oct 10 10:21:15 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 09:21:15 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3326] customizing keyboard shortcuts collides with menu shortcuts In-Reply-To: <20161010001616.313aba87@mydesk.domain.cxm> References: <20161010001616.313aba87@mydesk.domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20161010092115.1118b78d@kujata> On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 00:16:16 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > I thought I had documented this on my business website, but it turns > out I haven't. Hopefully I soon will. Why on earth would you do that?? Surely you should do that on the Claws Mail FAQ and not use Claws Mail (any longer) to draw people to your business. No-one else uses Claws Mail in this way, not even members of the development team. with regards Paul From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Oct 10 10:33:08 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 09:33:08 +0100 Subject: [Users] Unwanted signature padding In-Reply-To: <20161009164154.3f3463a9.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> References: <20161009164154.3f3463a9.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Message-ID: <20161010093308.529d7089@kujata> On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 16:41:54 +0200 Tristan Miller wrote: > One of these annoyances is the placement of signatures. You will find that you have greater flexibility if you set a Reply Template in your Account Preferences instead. with regards Paul From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Oct 10 10:35:03 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 09:35:03 +0100 Subject: [Users] Unwanted signature padding In-Reply-To: <20161010093308.529d7089@kujata> References: <20161009164154.3f3463a9.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> <20161010093308.529d7089@kujata> Message-ID: <20161010093503.67bf8b5a@kujata> On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 09:33:08 +0100 Paul wrote: > Reply Template I should have said the 3 Templates: Compose, Reply and Forward. with regards Paul From dustbiz at gmail.com Mon Oct 10 15:04:12 2016 From: dustbiz at gmail.com (Dustin Miller) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 19:04:12 +0600 Subject: [Users] Browse Folder Window's Typing-Triggered Search Ignores First Key Entry Message-ID: <20161010190412.592b609a@dustin-NetPc> Problem Example: I use 'Ctrl+O' (to move message to a folder) or 'G' (to go to a folder). In the browse folder window that comes up I type something like 'inb' for the 'Inbox' folder, but only 'nb' shows up. (I think the one time when I typed it fast enough, it may have ignored the first two letters, but I don't think it's strictly a timing thing, since even when I waited for a bit, it would still ignore the first letter.) The consistently successful workaround that I'm using is to just type the initial character twice, once to 'wake up' the feature and then once for the actual search. Environment: Toshiba Netbook NB-305, Lubuntu 14.04, Claws 3.14.0 (built from tarball) I did not experience this with the same version of Claws running on Ubuntu 14.04 (with 'GNOME Flashback (Metacity)' desktop environment [DE]) on two separate desktop PCs. So I'm wondering whether this problem is associated with the LXDE DE? Or perhaps with the different hardware? For that reason, I'm also not sure whether this would qualify as a bug or not, but perhaps there is something that could be done on the Claws side to make this work as it's supposed to on this and similar systems. Let me know if you need more info. Thanks! From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Oct 10 16:15:41 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 15:15:41 +0100 Subject: [Users] Browse Folder Window's Typing-Triggered Search Ignores First Key Entry In-Reply-To: <20161010190412.592b609a@dustin-NetPc> References: <20161010190412.592b609a@dustin-NetPc> Message-ID: <20161010151541.4d7f43b8@kujata> On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 19:04:12 +0600 Dustin Miller wrote: > So I'm wondering whether this problem > is associated with the LXDE DE? Very likely to be that. with regards Paul From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Oct 10 19:06:09 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 17:06:09 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3711] New: Usage of (s) Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3711 Bug ID: 3711 Summary: Usage of (s) Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: other Hardware: Other OS: other Status: NEW Severity: minor Priority: P3 Component: UI/Translations Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: nicky at aptget.dk I'm in the process of proofreading the Danish translation with the help of the translator. There is several places throughout Claws Mail where constructs like this is used: #: src/compose.c:11388 msgid "" "Do you want to insert the contents of the file(s) into the message body, or " "attach it to the email?" However, while some of them is possible (but ugly) in Danish, this one is not. The reason is that file and files in this context in Danish have different endings: File = Filen Files = Filerne A rewrite of the string is also not possible in this case since "correct" Danish builds the sentence up around "the one" or "the several" part of the string. That means we have to choose between one or several when translating, which is, of course, less than optimal. A issue like this is off course very minor. But I was hoping the number of these constructs could be reduced over time. Thank you all very much for Claws Mail -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Oct 10 19:15:48 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 17:15:48 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3712] New: Name of the example domain in the translation Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3712 Bug ID: 3712 Summary: Name of the example domain in the translation Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: other Hardware: Other OS: other Status: NEW Severity: minor Priority: P3 Component: UI/Translations Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: nicky at aptget.dk I'm in the process of proofreading the Danish translation with the help of the translator. One of the strings I've read so far contains a domain example: #: src/editldap.c:450 msgid "" "This is the hostname of the server. For example, \"ldap.mydomain.com\" may " "be appropriate for the \"mydomain.com\" organization. An IP address may also " "be used. You may specify \"localhost\" if running an LDAP server on the same " "computer as Claws Mail." However, the domain "mydomain.com" is registered to some random domain registrar. May I instead suggest to use "example.org"? It's reserved by IANA for this exact purpose in mind. "mydomain.com" does not seem to be used anywhere else in the translation but this one string. Thank you all again for Claws Mail -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Oct 10 22:40:19 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 20:40:19 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3711] Usage of (s) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3711 Andrej Kacian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2016-10-10 20:31:03.511119585 +0200 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=5c1c044bd1dc2bafb33cd99e29e34983c985e323 Merge: dcd7355 0fec6a0 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Mon Oct 10 20:31:02 2016 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=0fec6a07b67735eedb29e20e987a7096e5d8f78d Author: Andrej Kacian Date: Mon Oct 10 20:08:49 2016 +0200 Improve plural handling of a file insert string. Fixes bug #3711. --- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian --- Thanks for reporting it, Nicky. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Oct 10 22:41:18 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 20:41:18 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3712] Name of the example domain in the translation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3712 Andrej Kacian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2016-10-10 20:33:02.761518051 +0200 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=4085a76d74a0d037b3e7dbf5fab2a045f3f996d1 Merge: 5c1c044 63e19c6 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Mon Oct 10 20:33:02 2016 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=63e19c6c8e361c2851737d42761923f215c794a9 Author: Andrej Kacian Date: Mon Oct 10 20:32:09 2016 +0200 Change mention of "mydomain.com" to "example.org". Fixes bug #3712. --- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian --- It's a small detail, but you're, of course, right, this is more proper. Thanks! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From wrosner at tirnet.de Tue Oct 11 01:35:14 2016 From: wrosner at tirnet.de (Wolfgang Rosner) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 01:35:14 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to print Headers on HTML mails ? In-Reply-To: <20161008085958.3f21448b@wjrws3.rosner.lokal> References: <20161006114229.6b7d0a67@wjrws3.rosner.lokal> <20161008083720.7998ef1a@wjrws3.rosner.lokal> <20161008085958.3f21448b@wjrws3.rosner.lokal> Message-ID: <20161011013514.3b6bb878@wjrws3.rosner.lokal> Am Sat, 8 Oct 2016 08:59:58 +0200 schrieb Wolfgang Rosner : > Or do I have to write a Perl script? After some futile research in other directions, I decided to do so. Attached you will find what I have done. It's still a crude hack in early pre-alpha state. Nevertheless, I just made some quick tests with differnt mail formats and it works surprisingly well. It even loads missing images from the web. No clue how to configure it not to do so. There is still some code page issue for correct display of German "Umlaut" (and maybe other special characters, I'd expect). You need "wkhtmltopdf" as html-to-pdf-converter and "okular" as pdf viewer. Config does not yet work here, change pipe command in line 112 to switch to a differnt viewer, instead. You need perl including Email::MIME and Data::Dumper modules. I've installed everything from the current debian jessie repo's. No idea about version dependencies. The script reads a message from STDIN in the format claws mail produces in its "Action" interface. Therefore, an action command has to be created in claws mail something like this: cat %p | /home/user/path/htmailread.pl (fit the path of the executable to your environment) To change the appearence of the header, try to tweak the HTML-generation of the header lines in code lines 72 ... 83. To change visible header items or their sequence, change line 21. If you don't understand the advices here, try to learn PERL or find somebody capable of it. Have fun testing. I'm glad to learn about your improvements :-) -- Wolfgang Rosner -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From dustbiz at gmail.com Tue Oct 11 20:53:26 2016 From: dustbiz at gmail.com (Dustin Miller) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 00:53:26 +0600 Subject: [Users] Browse Folder Window's Typing-Triggered Search Ignores First Key Entry In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20161012005326.351cb4e7@dustin-NetPc> > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 15:15:41 +0100 > From: Paul > To: users at lists.claws-mail.org > Subject: Re: [Users] Browse Folder Window's Typing-Triggered Search > Ignores First Key Entry > > On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 19:04:12 +0600 > Dustin Miller wrote: > > > So I'm wondering whether this problem > > is associated with the LXDE DE? > > Very likely to be that. Thanks, Paul, for your input. Was doing a bit of online searching regarding Lubuntu and focus of windows, since I thought that may be the issue (and I guess it still might be), but then I remembered and tested something that makes me wonder. It seems that the window is actually focused appropriately since the arrow keys and Enter key respond on the first press. But for some reason it takes at least one press of a letter key (which produces no visible effect at the time) before the search box will then open with the following letter key pressed. So it seems specifically related to how the keyboard input and the hidden search box interact, and (with my admittedly limited knowledge) that seems pretty specific to be affected by a DE. So with that additional info, do you still think this is a problem that is totally in the camp of LXDE, or do you think there's something on the Claws side that could be contributing to this and could possibly be improved from a compatibility standpoint? If you think it's LXDE, could you give me one or more terms and/or descriptions related to this hidden search box that might be helpful for my continued research online? Any help or ideas you have would be appreciated. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Oct 11 21:29:34 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 19:29:34 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3713] New: HTML not displayed properly Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3713 Bug ID: 3713 Summary: HTML not displayed properly Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.14.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/Fancy Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: mozga at trimen.pl Some HTML-containing messages that display correctly in version 3.11.1 do not display in 3.14.0. I think that version 3.13 also was affected. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From sylpheed at 911networks.com Tue Oct 11 21:43:23 2016 From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 12:43:23 -0700 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3713] New: HTML not displayed properly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20161011124323.0a4e7f5e@frogguski.911networks.com> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 19:29:34 +0000 noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: >http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3713 > > Bug ID: 3713 > Summary: HTML not displayed properly > Classification: Unclassified > Product: Claws Mail > Version: 3.14.0 > Hardware: PC > OS: Linux > Status: NEW > Severity: normal > Priority: P3 > Component: Plugins/Fancy > Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org > Reporter: mozga at trimen.pl > >Some HTML-containing messages that display correctly in version >3.11.1 do not display in 3.14.0. I think that version 3.13 also was >affected. > I had a very similar problem. The solution was: For me the solution was as per bug 3644 =================================== $ mv ~/.local/share/mime/packages/user-extension-html.xml ~/.local/share/mime/packages/user-extension-html.xml.original $ update-mime-database ~/.local/share/mime and restart CM: problem fixed. =================================== -- sknahT vyS From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Oct 11 22:09:34 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 20:09:34 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3713] HTML not displayed properly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3713 --- Comment #1 from Witek --- Created attachment 1690 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1690&action=edit html part that does not work but used to in older versions -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From slitt at troubleshooters.com Wed Oct 12 01:17:50 2016 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 19:17:50 -0400 Subject: [Users] Workaround for slow message list scroll and message display Message-ID: <20161011191750.378f175e@mydesk.domain.cxm> Hi all, Every version of Claws I've tried has been very sensitive to what's loaded and using resources on the computer. So when I have three different browsers each with 3 different youtube videos, every one of which has a plugin-containe process, the whole computer slows down, and Claws slows down more than most. When I kill off the gratuitous browsers and youtubes, system performance for the most part returns to normal. But Claws Mail continues scrolling slowly and displaying slowly. The workaround is: Once you've killed all the extraneous processes, close and restart Claws. It will be much faster, possibly by an order of magnitude. I'm even considering doing a prophylactic Claws restart every morning. SteveT Steve Litt == Whose business shall never be mentioned on the Claws-Mail List == -- SteveT Steve Litt September 2016 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting http://www.troubleshooters.com/28 From silver.bullet at zoho.com Wed Oct 12 07:26:52 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 07:26:52 +0200 Subject: [Users] Workaround for slow message list scroll and message display In-Reply-To: <20161011191750.378f175e@mydesk.domain.cxm> References: <20161011191750.378f175e@mydesk.domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20161012072652.68a38bbd@utnubu> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 19:17:50 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: >The workaround is: Once you've killed all the extraneous processes, >close and restart Claws. It will be much faster, possibly by an order >of magnitude. I'm even considering doing a prophylactic Claws restart >every morning. The hint, that if a user experience an issue, to stop and restart processes is amazing. Thank you for sharing this. Since you are an expert in troubleshooting, consider to troubleshoot, to find the cause. ;) From subscript at free.fr Wed Oct 12 07:53:56 2016 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 07:53:56 +0200 Subject: [Users] Workaround for slow message list scroll and message display In-Reply-To: <20161011191750.378f175e@mydesk.domain.cxm> References: <20161011191750.378f175e@mydesk.domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20161012075356.2295da00@anthra> Hello Steve, On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 19:17:50 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Every version of Claws I've tried has been very sensitive to what's > loaded and using resources on the computer. So when I have three > different browsers each with 3 different youtube videos, every one of > which has a plugin-containe process, the whole computer slows down, and > Claws slows down more than most. > > When I kill off the gratuitous browsers and youtubes, system > performance for the most part returns to normal. But Claws Mail > continues scrolling slowly and displaying slowly. > > The workaround is: Once you've killed all the extraneous processes, > close and restart Claws. It will be much faster, possibly by an order > of magnitude. I'm even considering doing a prophylactic Claws restart > every morning. > > SteveT > > Steve Litt > == Whose business shall never be mentioned on the Claws-Mail List == What you're describing sounds to me like a desktop system that loads more in memory than it could/should, thus swapping. Several separated browsers instances plus CM will clearly eat all your memory and a certain amount of disk swap, unless you have plenty RAM ("plenty" is relative to what you eat). What's your desktop RAM+swap amount, BTW? Even when processes are closed, a remaining one w/ memory pages swapped to disk will take quite a long time to get fast again, it's up to the kernel to move swapped (slow) pages to fast memory again. Indeed, closing/restarting CM "forces" this mechanism. I lived several years exactly like this (and w/ a running VMWare workstation and with a Gimp instance often opened, when I'm not using gcc to build big sources) into a 4GB RAM system, constantly swapping for 2GB at least, the day I've got 4GB of RAM more (25eur), was definitely another day. Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From slitt at troubleshooters.com Wed Oct 12 08:08:07 2016 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 02:08:07 -0400 Subject: [Users] Workaround for slow message list scroll and message display In-Reply-To: <20161012072652.68a38bbd@utnubu> References: <20161011191750.378f175e@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20161012072652.68a38bbd@utnubu> Message-ID: <20161012020807.3c993bc8@mydesk.domain.cxm> On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 07:26:52 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 19:17:50 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > >The workaround is: Once you've killed all the extraneous processes, > >close and restart Claws. It will be much faster, possibly by an order > >of magnitude. I'm even considering doing a prophylactic Claws restart > >every morning. > > The hint, that if a user experience an issue, to stop and restart > processes is amazing. Thank you for sharing this. > > Since you are an expert in troubleshooting, consider to troubleshoot, > to find the cause. > > ;) :-) Not my job, Mon. I've been in the code, trying to make one of the searches recursive, and it's too much for me. The prophylactic Claws rerun takes about a minute a day, of which only about 20 seconds requires user attention. So for six hours per year I can do the workaround. If the source of stateful slowdown is in the code, fixing it could take me 80 hours. I figured though that it might help others to: 1) Work around the problem like I do 2) For those troubleshooting it (if any), a distinction that narrows the root cause scope. 3) The ability of others to confirm or disprove my observation that the slowdown depends more on the history of the current Claws session than the current workload of the computer. SteveT Steve Litt == Whose business shall never be mentioned on the Claws-Mail List == From silver.bullet at zoho.com Wed Oct 12 08:35:01 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 08:35:01 +0200 Subject: [Users] Workaround for slow message list scroll and message display In-Reply-To: <20161012020807.3c993bc8@mydesk.domain.cxm> References: <20161011191750.378f175e@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20161012072652.68a38bbd@utnubu> <20161012020807.3c993bc8@mydesk.domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20161012083501.46176980@utnubu> On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 02:08:07 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: >I've been in the code, trying to make one of the searches recursive, >and it's too much for me. Hi, I would start troubleshooting even without using a debugger, let alone reading the code... On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 07:53:56 +0200, wwp wrote: >What you're describing sounds to me like a desktop system that loads >more in memory than it could/should, thus swapping. ...by e.g. running df -h free top and when running top, first stay with my default, sorted by CPU usage and then push Shift+M, to sort by memory usage. Perhaps something requires much CPU and/or memory resources. Maybe you did this already, but since you didn't mention any troubleshooting at all, I assume you didn't. Regards, Ralf From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Oct 12 08:35:44 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 07:35:44 +0100 Subject: [Users] Workaround for slow message list scroll and message display In-Reply-To: <20161012020807.3c993bc8@mydesk.domain.cxm> References: <20161011191750.378f175e@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20161012072652.68a38bbd@utnubu> <20161012020807.3c993bc8@mydesk.domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20161012073544.7bc13d39@kujata> On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 02:08:07 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > I figured though that it might help others to: > > 1) Work around the problem like I do > > 2) For those troubleshooting it (if any), a distinction that narrows > the root cause scope. > > 3) The ability of others to confirm or disprove my observation that > the slowdown depends more on the history of the current Claws > session than the current workload of the computer. See wwp's response. with regards Paul From slitt at troubleshooters.com Wed Oct 12 14:47:55 2016 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 08:47:55 -0400 Subject: [Users] Workaround for slow message list scroll and message display In-Reply-To: <20161012083501.46176980@utnubu> References: <20161011191750.378f175e@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20161012072652.68a38bbd@utnubu> <20161012020807.3c993bc8@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20161012083501.46176980@utnubu> Message-ID: <20161012084755.0a0fc1f4@mydesk.domain.cxm> On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 08:35:01 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 02:08:07 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > >I've been in the code, trying to make one of the searches recursive, > >and it's too much for me. > > Hi, > > I would start troubleshooting even without using a debugger, let > alone reading the code... > > On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 07:53:56 +0200, wwp wrote: > >What you're describing sounds to me like a desktop system that loads > >more in memory than it could/should, thus swapping. > > ...by e.g. running > > df -h > > free > > top > > and when running top, first stay with my default, sorted by CPU usage > and then push Shift+M, to sort by memory usage. Perhaps something > requires much CPU and/or memory resources. Maybe you did this already, > but since you didn't mention any troubleshooting at all, I assume you > didn't. > > Regards, > Ralf Sounds reasonable. Instead of doing my daily prophylactic restart, I'll let it happen again, run the commands you mention, restart it, rerun your commands, and exploit the differences. Naturally I'll keep you in the loop. You're right: Once I found the workaround, I troubleshot no more, because the workaround scratched my itch. SteveT Steve Litt == Whose business shall never be mentioned on the Claws-Mail List == -- SteveT Steve Litt September 2016 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting http://www.troubleshooters.com/28 From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Oct 12 15:17:25 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 13:17:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2258] Make threading more robust In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2258 --- Comment #10 from Tomasz Kalkosiński --- Is there an interest in this patch? Can I work on it and introduce it as an option? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Oct 12 15:22:12 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 13:22:12 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2258] Make threading more robust In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2258 --- Comment #11 from Paul --- (In reply to comment #10) > Is there an interest in this patch? Can I work on it and introduce it as an > option? Not really an interest, no. There is now an Actions script in Claws Mail sources which will suffice: http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=blob;f=tools/cm-reparent.pl;h=9a16da2e3b5c5b1149b9c2e6a5ed135b852383d4;hb=HEAD -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Oct 12 15:37:17 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 13:37:17 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2258] Make threading more robust In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2258 --- Comment #12 from Tomasz Kalkosiński --- Referred action is manual, Paul and it would be cumbersome to thread tens of emails on a daily basis. How do you work on your Bugzilla emails? Do you have them threaded? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Oct 12 15:49:21 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 13:49:21 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2258] Make threading more robust In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2258 --- Comment #13 from Paul --- (In reply to comment #12) > How do you work on your Bugzilla emails? Do you have them threaded? The original is the parent, the rest are children and are threaded as such. Request a fix in JIRA and Gerrit. I don't know about the latter, but the first is broken. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Oct 12 16:35:17 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 14:35:17 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2258] Make threading more robust In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2258 --- Comment #14 from Florian Mickler --- But If you don't have the first email then threading isn't working. That is the whole point of the problem. You don't have the first email if you are cc'd after the bug is created. I didn't check with recent versions of claws though. Did the behavior change? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Oct 12 20:44:45 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 18:44:45 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2258] Make threading more robust In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2258 --- Comment #15 from Tomasz Kalkosiński --- (In reply to comment #14) > But If you don't have the first email then threading isn't working. That is > the whole point of the problem. You don't have the first email if you are > cc'd after the bug is created. I didn't check with recent versions of claws > though. Did the behavior change? Exactly that's the point of the this patch. Since there is no first parent email - find the oldest child and pretend it's a parent. It doesn't break or change behavior if you have a real parent. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From jvromans at squirrel.nl Thu Oct 13 09:52:37 2016 From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 09:52:37 +0200 Subject: [Users] Selective purge thrash Message-ID: <20161013095237.3c7a5b6d@phoenix.squirrel.nl> Hi, I can configure Claws to automatically purge the trash on exit. However, I would want to retain the messages from the last couple of months. Is that possible? -- Johan From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Oct 13 10:17:15 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 09:17:15 +0100 Subject: [Users] Selective purge thrash In-Reply-To: <20161013095237.3c7a5b6d@phoenix.squirrel.nl> References: <20161013095237.3c7a5b6d@phoenix.squirrel.nl> Message-ID: <20161013091715.6335cb9a@kujata> On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 09:52:37 +0200 Johan Vromans wrote: > I can configure Claws to automatically purge the trash on exit. > However, I would want to retain the messages from the last couple > of months. Is that possible? You can purge the trash on startup. Here's how: Add a processing rule to your Trash folder, based on Age, with an Action of 'delete'. In the Trash folders Properties, set 'Run processing rules on start-up'. with regards Paul From jvromans at squirrel.nl Thu Oct 13 17:02:55 2016 From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 17:02:55 +0200 Subject: [Users] Selective purge thrash In-Reply-To: <20161013091715.6335cb9a@kujata> References: <20161013095237.3c7a5b6d@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161013091715.6335cb9a@kujata> Message-ID: <20161013170255.6de07683@phoenix.squirrel.nl> On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 09:17:15 +0100 Paul wrote: > Add a processing rule to your Trash folder, based on Age, with an > Action of 'delete'. > > In the Trash folders Properties, set 'Run processing rules on > start-up'. Exactly what I was looking for! Thanks! From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Oct 13 20:14:28 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 18:14:28 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3714] New: Combining AND and OR conditions in a rule Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3714 Bug ID: 3714 Summary: Combining AND and OR conditions in a rule Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.14.0 Hardware: PC OS: Windows 10 Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: Filtering Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: alt.rw-9o6f8p42 at yopmail.com Currently, if you want an action x applied to e-mails which meet the conditions 1 or 2 or 3 but not 4, you have to create 3 rules: Condition: 1 & ~4 Action: x Condition: 2 & ~4 Action: x Condition: 3 & ~4 Action: x It would be nice to be able to combine AND and OR conditions in one rule: Condition: (1 | 2 | 3) & ~4 Action: x Handling exceptions would become more comfortable. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Oct 14 12:25:58 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 10:25:58 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2258] Make threading more robust In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2258 --- Comment #16 from Tomasz Kalkosiński --- Paul, what do you think about this improvement? It is an other case that you thought. Main advantage of this patch is that Claws can group loose emails from trackers like Jira, Gerrit and others which send tons of emails. Other email clients handle them well grouping by either In-Reply-To or Subject. Claws can't do this at the moment and it's a disadvantage. It would be great to have this in master branch. I've tested this on my branch and it works great. I can update this patch against current version. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From clifflaine at europe.com Fri Oct 14 14:21:35 2016 From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 13:21:35 +0100 Subject: [Users] $an tag appears in all my email headers Message-ID: <20161014132135.43b7d709@korky-Inspiron-1011> Afternoon, Does anyone know why a $an tag is appearing, against a pale yellow background strip, as the first header in the message view? Here's what it looks like http://imgur.com/a/b891E I'm using CM 3.13.2 in Lubuntu (Ubuntu 16.04.1) Thanks Cliff From silver.bullet at zoho.com Fri Oct 14 14:41:39 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 14:41:39 +0200 Subject: [Users] $an tag appears in all my email headers In-Reply-To: <20161014132135.43b7d709@korky-Inspiron-1011> References: <20161014132135.43b7d709@korky-Inspiron-1011> Message-ID: <20161014144139.263c9ce8@utnubu> On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 13:21:35 +0100, Cliff Laine wrote: >Does anyone know why a $an tag is appearing, against a pale yellow >background strip, as the first header in the message view? Right click the message in the message list -> Tags -> uncheck or check a tag or add a tag Tags can be used by the quick search bar. Regards, Ralf From clifflaine at europe.com Sat Oct 15 10:09:18 2016 From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 09:09:18 +0100 Subject: [Users] $an tag appears in all my email headers In-Reply-To: <20161014144139.263c9ce8@utnubu> References: <20161014132135.43b7d709@korky-Inspiron-1011> <20161014144139.263c9ce8@utnubu> Message-ID: <20161015090918.09e694bf@korky-Inspiron-1011> On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 14:41:39 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 13:21:35 +0100, Cliff Laine wrote: > >Does anyone know why a $an tag is appearing, against a pale yellow > >background strip, as the first header in the message view? > > Right click the message in the message list -> Tags -> uncheck or > check a tag or add a tag > > Tags can be used by the quick search bar. > > Regards, > Ralf > Thanks Ralf, but that only works on individual messages. I'd rather not see them at all, on any mail. Cliff From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sat Oct 15 12:55:57 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 12:55:57 +0200 Subject: [Users] $an tag appears in all my email headers In-Reply-To: <20161015090918.09e694bf@korky-Inspiron-1011> References: <20161014132135.43b7d709@korky-Inspiron-1011> <20161014144139.263c9ce8@utnubu> <20161015090918.09e694bf@korky-Inspiron-1011> Message-ID: <20161015125557.70e134db@utnubu> On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 09:09:18 +0100, Cliff Laine wrote: >On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 14:41:39 +0200 >Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 13:21:35 +0100, Cliff Laine wrote: >> >Does anyone know why a $an tag is appearing, against a pale yellow >> >background strip, as the first header in the message view? >> >> Right click the message in the message list -> Tags -> uncheck or >> check a tag or add a tag >> >> Tags can be used by the quick search bar. >> >> Regards, >> Ralf >> > >Thanks Ralf, but that only works on individual messages. I'd rather not >see them at all, on any mail. Select all messages instead of a single message and remove the tag by the right click menu. Regards, Ralf From edwardp at linuxmail.org Sun Oct 16 04:37:07 2016 From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 22:37:07 -0400 Subject: [Users] Unwanted signature padding Message-ID: <20161015223707.7beb9710@upstairs> I just installed Linux (Fedora 24, 64-bit) on a brand new hard drive and after the install, Claws updated to 3.14. What I noticed in the signature, is when it's placed in the Compose message screen automatically from the signature file I created, there are /two/ newlines above the -- separator, which I believe is the correct placement, since the message would be started on the first line. with a blank line between the end of the message and the signature separator. From psychonaut at nothingisreal.com Sun Oct 16 16:27:31 2016 From: psychonaut at nothingisreal.com (Tristan Miller) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 16:27:31 +0200 Subject: [Users] Unwanted signature padding In-Reply-To: <20161015223707.7beb9710@upstairs> References: <20161015223707.7beb9710@upstairs> Message-ID: <20161016162731.648af9cc.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Greetings. On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 22:37:07 -0400, wrote: > I just installed Linux (Fedora 24, 64-bit) on a brand new hard > drive and after the install, Claws updated to 3.14. > > What I noticed in the signature, is when it's placed in the Compose > message screen automatically from the signature file I created, there > are /two/ newlines above the -- separator, which I believe is the > correct placement, since the message would be started on the first > line. with a blank line between the end of the message and the > signature separator. Yes, I observed that as well (in my message <20161009190858.7f8dfe31.psychonaut at nothingisreal.com>). I suppose the problem is that Claws Mail inserts a newline after the separator even when the separator is zero-length. This results in a total of three newlines (two before the separator and one after). If you use a separator, then this behaviour is fine, but if you don't, you get a superfluous blank line. Regards, Tristan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tristan Miller Free Software developer, ferret herder, logologist https://logological.org/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 801 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Oct 17 10:30:15 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 09:30:15 +0100 Subject: [Users] $an tag appears in all my email headers In-Reply-To: <20161014132135.43b7d709@korky-Inspiron-1011> References: <20161014132135.43b7d709@korky-Inspiron-1011> Message-ID: <20161017093015.178ed8f4@kujata> On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 13:21:35 +0100 Cliff Laine wrote: > Does anyone know why a $an tag is appearing Either you added the tag in Claws Mail, or, if it's an IMAP account, the tag had been added elsewhere. with regards Paul From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Oct 17 10:32:10 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 09:32:10 +0100 Subject: [Users] Unwanted signature padding In-Reply-To: <20161016162731.648af9cc.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> References: <20161015223707.7beb9710@upstairs> <20161016162731.648af9cc.psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> Message-ID: <20161017093210.6f22aed5@kujata> On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 16:27:31 +0200 Tristan Miller wrote: > If you use a > separator, then this behaviour is fine, but if you don't, you get a > superfluous blank line. The signature separator is not optional. with regards Paul From mb0087 at gmail.com Tue Oct 18 13:21:23 2016 From: mb0087 at gmail.com (Martin) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 13:21:23 +0200 Subject: [Users] How can I always show the CC field in message view? Message-ID: Hello all, I'm using Claws Mail 3.13.2 on Lubuntu 16.04. When I opened an email today that I had read through my webmail previously, I noticed that the grey area (see screenshot) does not tell me that there was a CC recipient. The white area by default also does not show it and starts right away with the message body. Only if I click on the [@] icon on the right sidebar titled "Type: message/rfc822" it shows me From/To/CC/Subject above the message. I find it crucial to know that and to whom a email was sent as copy, but couldn't figure out how to setup claws to always show me the CC field per default (either in the grey or in the white area) Can someone give advice? Thank you in advance. 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You can edit it, the option is available by the "Configuration" menu: Configuration > Preferences... > Text Options > [x] Display headers in message view > Edit Regards, Ralf From silver.bullet at zoho.com Tue Oct 18 13:36:40 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 13:36:40 +0200 Subject: [Users] How can I always show the CC field in message view? In-Reply-To: <20161018132729.066f6b4d@utnubu> References: <20161018132729.066f6b4d@utnubu> Message-ID: <20161018133640.6094f6fd@utnubu> On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 13:27:29 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 13:21:23 +0200, Martin wrote: >>Can someone give advice? > >You can edit it, the option is available by the "Configuration" menu: > >Configuration > Preferences... > Text Options > >[x] Display headers in message view > Edit My apologies, since I have "Display header pane above message view" disable, I didn't know that this doesn't affect the pane above the message view. For testing purpose I enabled it and notice that this doesn't work. Do you really need the pane above the message view? What I mentioned does work for the view "in the white area", so why having duplicated information above it? Regards, Ralf From brad at fineby.me.uk Tue Oct 18 13:45:54 2016 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 12:45:54 +0100 Subject: [Users] How can I always show the CC field in message view? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20161018124554.64a3dcca@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 13:21:23 +0200 Martin wrote: Hello Martin, >I find it crucial to know that and to whom a email was sent as copy, >but couldn't figure out how to setup claws to always show me the Configuration menu, Preferences -> Message View. Tick (check) 'Display headers in message view'. Click 'Edit' button (next to setting mentioned above) and there you can choose which headers are displayed. Obviously, if no Cc header is set in an email, it can't be displayed. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" It's not your heart, it's your bank I want to break It's Yer Money - Wonder Stuff -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 455 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From silver.bullet at zoho.com Tue Oct 18 15:03:37 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:03:37 +0200 Subject: [Users] How can I always show the CC field in message view? In-Reply-To: <20161018124554.64a3dcca@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20161018124554.64a3dcca@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20161018150337.163729ca@utnubu> On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 12:45:54 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: >Configuration menu, Preferences -> Message View. The OP seemingly wants to get it in the pane above the message view, too. I disabled the pane, however, other users might find it good to view the pane, since it's always visible, even when scrolling through a message, when the headers shown on top could hide. Regards, Ralf From slitt at troubleshooters.com Tue Oct 18 19:10:00 2016 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 13:10:00 -0400 Subject: [Users] Easy way to view new email Message-ID: <20161018131000.21461360@mydesk.domain.cxm> Hi all, I've known it all along, but never really thought of it til today. You know all those people whose clocks are wrong, such that when you pull in new email it's interspersed with the old email? And sometimes you get too enthusiastic with deletion and delete an old email? The fix to all that silliness is to put the letter U (upper case u) in the extended search field. That shows you nothing but unread mail, making it very easy to quickly dispense with the mail that just came in, regardless of its date. SteveT Steve Litt == Whose business shall never be mentioned on the Claws-Mail List == From dave at howorth.org.uk Tue Oct 18 20:42:45 2016 From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:42:45 +0100 Subject: [Users] How can I always show the CC field in message view? In-Reply-To: <20161018150337.163729ca@utnubu> References: <20161018124554.64a3dcca@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20161018150337.163729ca@utnubu> Message-ID: <20161018194245.22998ebd@acer-suse.lan> On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:03:37 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 12:45:54 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > >Configuration menu, Preferences -> Message View. > > The OP seemingly wants to get it in the pane above the message view, > too. I disabled the pane, however, other users might find it good to > view the pane, since it's always visible, even when scrolling through > a message, when the headers shown on top could hide. Agreed. To me personally, having the headers distinguished from the message body by a different background colour etc is useful. Repeating headers in the 'grey' and the 'white' area serves no purpose at all. Having the [most interesting] headers visible at all times is something I find useful. Personally I would like to see From, To, Cc, Bcc, Subject, Date in the grey area. I'm generally not interested in Sender and X-Mailer so would hide those behind a button or else use View Message Source (or whatever claws calls it) to look at them. Cheers, Dave > Regards, > Ralf PS why doesn't claws snip it's own footer in replies? From brad at fineby.me.uk Tue Oct 18 21:00:25 2016 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:00:25 +0100 Subject: [Users] How can I always show the CC field in message view? In-Reply-To: <20161018194245.22998ebd@acer-suse.lan> References: <20161018124554.64a3dcca@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20161018150337.163729ca@utnubu> <20161018194245.22998ebd@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: <20161018200025.1c3cf72b@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:42:45 +0100 Dave Howorth wrote: Hello Dave, >PS why doesn't claws snip it's own footer in replies? Because it's not delimited by a valid sig separator. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" No rotten apple's gonna spoil my fun Get The Funk Out - Extreme -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 455 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dave at howorth.org.uk Tue Oct 18 23:40:30 2016 From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 22:40:30 +0100 Subject: [Users] How can I always show the CC field in message view? In-Reply-To: <20161018200025.1c3cf72b@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20161018124554.64a3dcca@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20161018150337.163729ca@utnubu> <20161018194245.22998ebd@acer-suse.lan> <20161018200025.1c3cf72b@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20161018224030.0a35f55e@acer-suse.lan> On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:00:25 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: > On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:42:45 +0100 > Dave Howorth wrote: > > Hello Dave, > > >PS why doesn't claws snip it's own footer in replies? > > Because it's not delimited by a valid sig separator. Which begs the question? Why not? From andrej at kacian.sk Tue Oct 18 23:49:51 2016 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 23:49:51 +0200 Subject: [Users] How can I always show the CC field in message view? In-Reply-To: <20161018224030.0a35f55e@acer-suse.lan> References: <20161018124554.64a3dcca@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20161018150337.163729ca@utnubu> <20161018194245.22998ebd@acer-suse.lan> <20161018200025.1c3cf72b@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20161018224030.0a35f55e@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: <20161018234951.46461ade@penny> On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 22:40:30 +0100 Dave Howorth wrote: > On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:00:25 +0100 > Brad Rogers wrote: > > > On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:42:45 +0100 > > Dave Howorth wrote: > > > > Hello Dave, > > > > >PS why doesn't claws snip it's own footer in replies? > > > > Because it's not delimited by a valid sig separator. > > Which begs the question? > > Why not? Perhaps because whoever sent the e-mail configured it not to use a separator for their outgoing e-mails? -- Andrej From dave at howorth.org.uk Tue Oct 18 23:56:43 2016 From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 22:56:43 +0100 Subject: [Users] mangling URL? Message-ID: <20161018225643.4d952daa@acer-suse.lan> I get mails from my local planning authority that include links to particular planning applications. When I click on those links, the result in Firefox is broken (rewritten). Is it claws or firefox doing this? The mails are of type Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii The part of the URL that gets broken is the query parameters: ...?caseType=Application&keyVal=... in the message source and in claw's display becomes ...?caseType=Application\\&keyVal=... in Firefox's URL bar. Any ideas as to what's going on and how to fix it? (and yes, I know they should be sending a text part as well and I appreciate claws is doing me a favour by showing anything at all.) Cheers, Dave PS I'd rather not post the whole message but will send it privately if requested. From dave at howorth.org.uk Wed Oct 19 08:48:42 2016 From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 07:48:42 +0100 Subject: [Users] How can I always show the CC field in message view? In-Reply-To: <20161018234951.46461ade@penny> References: <20161018124554.64a3dcca@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20161018150337.163729ca@utnubu> <20161018194245.22998ebd@acer-suse.lan> <20161018200025.1c3cf72b@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20161018224030.0a35f55e@acer-suse.lan> <20161018234951.46461ade@penny> Message-ID: <20161019074842.72a59c44@acer-suse.lan> On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 23:49:51 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 22:40:30 +0100 > Dave Howorth wrote: > > > On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:00:25 +0100 > > Brad Rogers wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:42:45 +0100 > > > Dave Howorth wrote: > > > > > > Hello Dave, > > > > > > >PS why doesn't claws snip it's own footer in replies? > > > > > > Because it's not delimited by a valid sig separator. > > > > Which begs the question? > > > > Why not? > > Perhaps because whoever sent the e-mail configured it not to use a > separator for their outgoing e-mails? > The footer I'm talking about is that inserted by the claws mailing list! From silver.bullet at zoho.com Wed Oct 19 09:14:07 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 09:14:07 +0200 Subject: [Users] How can I always show the CC field in message view? In-Reply-To: <20161019074842.72a59c44@acer-suse.lan> References: <20161018124554.64a3dcca@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20161018150337.163729ca@utnubu> <20161018194245.22998ebd@acer-suse.lan> <20161018200025.1c3cf72b@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20161018224030.0a35f55e@acer-suse.lan> <20161018234951.46461ade@penny> <20161019074842.72a59c44@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: <20161019091407.6d5bb9e5@utnubu> On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 07:48:42 +0100, Dave Howorth wrote: >The footer I'm talking about is that inserted by the claws mailing >list! _______________________________________________ >Users mailing list >Users at lists.claws-mail.org >http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users I guess the reason for this is, that the mailman list footer should be distinguishable from user's signatures, but highlighted. Since interleaved posting, aka inline replying in combination with removing unnecessary text is the most common posting style, manually removing the footer usually doesn't cause extra work. Trimming the quotes now and then becomes an issue, if there's a dispute, but untrimmed quotes most of the times are annoying, so I only can repeat, removing the footer most of the times doesn't require an extra ammont of effort. Regards, Ralf From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Oct 19 09:50:25 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 08:50:25 +0100 Subject: [Users] mangling URL? In-Reply-To: <20161018225643.4d952daa@acer-suse.lan> References: <20161018225643.4d952daa@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: <20161019085025.4450efcf@kujata> On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 22:56:43 +0100 Dave Howorth wrote: > I get mails from my local planning authority that include links to > particular planning applications. When I click on those links, the > result in Firefox is broken (rewritten). Is it claws or firefox > doing this? You already asked this back in August, and you got your answer. The problem was in the version of xdg-utils that your distro ships. Read the thread starting here to jog your memory: http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2016-August/017291.html with regards Paul From brad at fineby.me.uk Wed Oct 19 10:03:29 2016 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 09:03:29 +0100 Subject: [Users] Footer & Sig delimiters (was: How can I always show the CC field in message view?) In-Reply-To: <20161019074842.72a59c44@acer-suse.lan> References: <20161018124554.64a3dcca@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20161018150337.163729ca@utnubu> <20161018194245.22998ebd@acer-suse.lan> <20161018200025.1c3cf72b@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20161018224030.0a35f55e@acer-suse.lan> <20161018234951.46461ade@penny> <20161019074842.72a59c44@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: <20161019082140.2750152f@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 07:48:42 +0100 Dave Howorth wrote: Hello Dave, >The footer I'm talking about is that inserted by the claws mailing list! Irrelevant. Without a valid delimiter, no MUA will cut a list footer. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" What will you do when the gas taps turn? The Gasman Cometh - Crass -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 455 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From mb0087 at gmail.com Wed Oct 19 10:35:01 2016 From: mb0087 at gmail.com (Martin) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 10:35:01 +0200 Subject: [Users] How can I always show the CC field in message view? Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 13:27:29 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Do you really need the pane above the message view? > What I mentioned does work for the view "in the white area", so why > having duplicated information above it? Regards, > Ralf Hey Ralf, no, it doesn't matter where I can see the CC field - either grey or white area. Though grey area apparently is independent from the users preferred way of displaying emails (plain / html) while white area isn't. I have now found a setup that works for me: I disabled "Select the HTML part of multipart/alternative messages", then claws shows me the To/From/CC,... fields above the body for either plain or html emails. Martin From silver.bullet at zoho.com Wed Oct 19 10:43:33 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 10:43:33 +0200 Subject: [Users] How can I always show the CC field in message view? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20161019104333.1d7483e1@utnubu> On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 10:35:01 +0200, Martin wrote: >"Select the HTML part of multipart/alternative messages" It's disabled here and I also don't use the HTML plugin. Indeed when selecting a part of a message, the headers hide. Perhaps an disadvantage of this setting is, that at the beginning I sometimes thought, that I received empty mails, but actually it were plain HTML mails. If you receive an empty mail, take care, it might be a HTML mail. Regards, Ralf From ricardo at mones.org Wed Oct 19 12:07:42 2016 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 12:07:42 +0200 Subject: [Users] How can I always show the CC field in message view? In-Reply-To: <20161019074842.72a59c44@acer-suse.lan> References: <20161018124554.64a3dcca@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20161018150337.163729ca@utnubu> <20161018194245.22998ebd@acer-suse.lan> <20161018200025.1c3cf72b@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20161018224030.0a35f55e@acer-suse.lan> <20161018234951.46461ade@penny> <20161019074842.72a59c44@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: <20161019100742.GA5758@busgosu.mones.org> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 07:48:42AM +0100, Dave Howorth wrote: > On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 23:49:51 +0200 > Andrej Kacian wrote: > > > On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 22:40:30 +0100 > > Dave Howorth wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:00:25 +0100 > > > Brad Rogers wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:42:45 +0100 > > > > Dave Howorth wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Dave, > > > > > > > > >PS why doesn't claws snip it's own footer in replies? > > > > > > > > Because it's not delimited by a valid sig separator. > > > > > > Which begs the question? > > > > > > Why not? > > > > Perhaps because whoever sent the e-mail configured it not to use a > > separator for their outgoing e-mails? > > > > The footer I'm talking about is that inserted by the claws mailing list! That's mailman footer, not Claws Mail "own" footer. And there's no reason to remove it within Claws Mail, but you can probably write a compose_any script for the python plugin¹ which removes it for you on replies. regards, ¹ http://www.claws-mail.org/plugin.php?plugin=python -- Ricardo Mones ~ Never send a human to do a machine's job. Agent Smith -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From mb0087 at gmail.com Wed Oct 19 17:56:50 2016 From: mb0087 at gmail.com (Martin) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 17:56:50 +0200 Subject: [Users] How can I always show the CC field in message view? Message-ID: > Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 10:43:33 +0200 > From: Ralf Mardorf > To: users at lists.claws-mail.org > Subject: Re: [Users] How can I always show the CC field in message > view? > Message-ID: <20161019104333.1d7483e1 at utnubu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Indeed when selecting a part of a message, the headers hide. Yes, one has to chose between either seeing the headers selected in the settings or seeing HTML emails rendered from the start. Cause now I have to manually open the HTML part of many emails I receive to be able to read them. Therefore I'd find it better to have the selected headers shown in the grey area instead of prepended to the body. Regards, Martin From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Oct 19 18:02:30 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 17:02:30 +0100 Subject: [Users] How can I always show the CC field in message view? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20161019170230.699c899c@kujata> On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 17:56:50 +0200 Martin wrote: > Cause now I have to manually open the HTML part of many emails I > receive to be able to read them. This is not strictly true because you can use the option 'render html messages as text', which normally suffices for all but the most 'highly structured' messages. with regards Paul From silver.bullet at zoho.com Wed Oct 19 18:43:01 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 18:43:01 +0200 Subject: [Users] How can I always show the CC field in message view? In-Reply-To: <20161019170230.699c899c@kujata> References: <20161019170230.699c899c@kujata> Message-ID: <20161019184301.468cc5c2@utnubu> On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 17:02:30 +0100, Paul wrote: >On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 17:56:50 +0200 Martin wrote: >> Cause now I have to manually open the HTML part of many emails I >> receive to be able to read them. > >This is not strictly true because you can use the option 'render html >messages as text', which normally suffices for all but the most >'highly structured' messages. This is what I've got enabled :). HTML mails still could be an annoyance, even multipart, plain text and HTML could cause issues, if the plain text part is broken, caused by the sender's mail thingy. Regards, Ralf From dave at howorth.org.uk Thu Oct 20 00:44:28 2016 From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 23:44:28 +0100 Subject: [Users] mangling URL? In-Reply-To: <20161019085025.4450efcf@kujata> References: <20161018225643.4d952daa@acer-suse.lan> <20161019085025.4450efcf@kujata> Message-ID: <20161019234428.3e0cbee3@acer-suse.lan> On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 08:50:25 +0100 Paul wrote: > On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 22:56:43 +0100 > Dave Howorth wrote: > > > I get mails from my local planning authority that include links to > > particular planning applications. When I click on those links, the > > result in Firefox is broken (rewritten). Is it claws or firefox > > doing this? > > You already asked this back in August, and you got your answer. The > problem was in the version of xdg-utils that your distro ships. > > Read the thread starting here to jog your memory: > http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2016-August/017291.html Ah, sorry for the noise. Too many systems, not enough working brain cells. Many thanks, Dave > with regards > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users From jvromans at squirrel.nl Thu Oct 20 08:27:18 2016 From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 08:27:18 +0200 Subject: [Users] Cancel startup from password dialog Message-ID: <20161020082718.6f5fb5c7@phoenix.squirrel.nl> Hi, It would be nice if it were possible to cancel the startup from the initial master password dialog. When I hit its cancel button, claws continues and I'm overwhelmed with password dialogs for all mailboxes. Why? Occasionally I hit the hot key that starts claws by accident... -- Johan From andrej at kacian.sk Thu Oct 20 11:57:20 2016 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 11:57:20 +0200 Subject: [Users] Cancel startup from password dialog In-Reply-To: <20161020082718.6f5fb5c7@phoenix.squirrel.nl> References: <20161020082718.6f5fb5c7@phoenix.squirrel.nl> Message-ID: <20161020115720.3511f326@penny> On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 08:27:18 +0200 Johan Vromans wrote: > Hi, > > It would be nice if it were possible to cancel the startup from the initial > master password dialog. When I hit its cancel button, claws continues and > I'm overwhelmed with password dialogs for all mailboxes. The master passphrase dialog only appears after the startup is finished, and Claws Mail starts looking at which accounts need updating. So by then it is too late to "cancel the startup". But I understand your point - a way to request that Claws Mail stops any network activity. That, I think is conceptually incorrect to do in the master passphrase dialog, since the dialog is used also in different contexts than for network connections (e.g. if you merely open account preferences for the first time). Perhaps something could be added to one of the password dialogs instead, where it would make more sense. > Why? Occasionally I hit the hot key that starts claws by accident... In short term, it might be more practical to just disable mail checking on start up, and just click 'Get Mail' manually instead. :) Regards, -- Andrej From jvromans at squirrel.nl Thu Oct 20 13:00:53 2016 From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 13:00:53 +0200 Subject: [Users] Cancel startup from password dialog In-Reply-To: <20161020115720.3511f326@penny> References: <20161020082718.6f5fb5c7@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161020115720.3511f326@penny> Message-ID: <20161020130053.5d706e36@phoenix.squirrel.nl> On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 11:57:20 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > The master passphrase dialog only appears after the startup is > finished, and Claws Mail starts looking at which accounts need > updating. So by then it is too late to "cancel the startup". [...] Thanks for the clarification. I guess I'll have to cope with my bad habits :) . -- Johan From rhutter at posteo.de Thu Oct 20 22:00:45 2016 From: rhutter at posteo.de (Ralf Hutter) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 22:00:45 +0200 Subject: [Users] Cancel startup from password dialog In-Reply-To: <20161020115720.3511f326@penny> References: <20161020082718.6f5fb5c7@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161020115720.3511f326@penny> Message-ID: <20161020220045.5bb0b151@Trisdesk> On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 11:57:20 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > But I > understand your point - a way to request that Claws Mail stops any > network activity. I, too, understand that point. In fact i've already wished for such a feature several times. Sometimes it happens that, for whatever reasons (mostly some failing WLAN connection), i can't connect to the internet for a while. But Claws checks for emails every couple of minutes. If it does before i have noticed that the web connection is gone, it keeps on trying for quite a long time and i can't use it in that time. A button "Stop downloading Emails" would really be helpful. In other situations, too, like when realizing you have clicked on an email with a huge attachment, but have a bad internet connection, so that the time it would take Claws to open that email would be too long, assuming you have more important emails to read. Ralf -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 473 bytes Desc: not available URL: From andrej at kacian.sk Thu Oct 20 22:24:07 2016 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 22:24:07 +0200 Subject: [Users] Cancel startup from password dialog In-Reply-To: <20161020220045.5bb0b151@Trisdesk> References: <20161020082718.6f5fb5c7@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161020115720.3511f326@penny> <20161020220045.5bb0b151@Trisdesk> Message-ID: <20161020222407.6a345d3e@penny> On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 22:00:45 +0200 Ralf Hutter wrote: > I, too, understand that point. In fact i've already wished for such a > feature several times. Sometimes it happens that, for whatever reasons > (mostly some failing WLAN connection), i can't connect to the internet > for a while. But Claws checks for emails every couple of minutes. Shouldn't the NetworkManager integration take care of that and automatically switch Claws Mail to offline mode? Regards, -- Andrej -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From ricardo at mones.org Fri Oct 21 09:56:57 2016 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 09:56:57 +0200 Subject: [Users] Cancel startup from password dialog In-Reply-To: <20161021081530.013daa6c@phoenix.squirrel.nl> References: <20161020082718.6f5fb5c7@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161020115720.3511f326@penny> <20161021081530.013daa6c@phoenix.squirrel.nl> Message-ID: <20161021075657.GB21242@busgosu.mones.org> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 08:15:30AM +0200, Johan Vromans wrote: > On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 11:57:20 +0200 > Andrej Kacian wrote: > > > That, I think is conceptually incorrect to do in the master passphrase > > dialog, since the dialog is used also in different contexts than > > for network connections (e.g. if you merely open account preferences for > > the first time). Perhaps something could be added to one of the > > password dialogs instead, where it would make more sense. > > A button [Proceed off-line] would do the trick. If that's a solution, what about adding --offline to you claws-mail command line associated with your hotkey? ;-) -- Ricardo Mones ~ You have the capacity to learn from mistakes. You'll learn a lot today. /usr/games/fortune -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There is no "NetworkManager" for FreeBSD. -- Jerry From jvromans at squirrel.nl Fri Oct 21 12:10:17 2016 From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 12:10:17 +0200 Subject: [Users] Cancel startup from password dialog In-Reply-To: <20161021075657.GB21242@busgosu.mones.org> References: <20161020082718.6f5fb5c7@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161020115720.3511f326@penny> <20161021081530.013daa6c@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021075657.GB21242@busgosu.mones.org> Message-ID: <157e6b83b40.279a.79732b7d3021152a70d3b4b4d6ad032f@squirrel.nl> Since 98% of the times I *do* want online startup... From subscript at free.fr Fri Oct 21 13:08:33 2016 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 13:08:33 +0200 Subject: [Users] Cancel startup from password dialog In-Reply-To: <157e6b83b40.279a.79732b7d3021152a70d3b4b4d6ad032f@squirrel.nl> References: <20161020082718.6f5fb5c7@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161020115720.3511f326@penny> <20161021081530.013daa6c@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021075657.GB21242@busgosu.mones.org> <157e6b83b40.279a.79732b7d3021152a70d3b4b4d6ad032f@squirrel.nl> Message-ID: <20161021130833.18b2965d@anthra> Hello Johan, On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 12:10:17 +0200 Johan Vromans wrote: > Since 98% of the times I *do* want online startup... And if you have no networkmanager helper, you could run a script periodically (crontab) that detects if network is up or down, and runs `claws-mail --online` or `claws-mail --offline`. Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From ricardo at mones.org Fri Oct 21 14:20:52 2016 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 14:20:52 +0200 Subject: [Users] Cancel startup from password dialog In-Reply-To: <20161021133633.2eda40ac@phoenix.squirrel.nl> References: <20161020082718.6f5fb5c7@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161020115720.3511f326@penny> <20161021081530.013daa6c@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021075657.GB21242@busgosu.mones.org> <157e6b83b40.279a.79732b7d3021152a70d3b4b4d6ad032f@squirrel.nl> <20161021130833.18b2965d@anthra> <20161021133633.2eda40ac@phoenix.squirrel.nl> Message-ID: <20161021122052.GA29000@busgosu.mones.org> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 01:36:33PM +0200, Johan Vromans wrote: > On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 13:08:33 +0200 > wwp wrote: > > > And if you have no networkmanager helper, you could run a script > > periodically (crontab) that detects if network is up or down, and runs > > `claws-mail --online` or `claws-mail --offline`. > > We're getting off-track. > > My original question was to prevent claws from continuing startup when > accidentally hitting the associated hot key. I think it was already clear the problem was not really stopping the startup (since it's already finished when master passphrase is asked as Andrej explained ) but the network operations that followed... Anyway, another idea to protect yourself from unwanted keystrokes: put your a simple yes/no dialog wrapper¹ around your call to claws-mail, so you have to confirm the launch :-) regards, ¹ http://www.pygtk.org/pygtk2tutorial/sec-Dialogs.html -- Ricardo Mones ~ Datei nicht gefunden Fehler 404 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From jvromans at squirrel.nl Fri Oct 21 18:06:44 2016 From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 18:06:44 +0200 Subject: [Users] Cancel startup from password dialog In-Reply-To: <20161021122052.GA29000@busgosu.mones.org> References: <20161020082718.6f5fb5c7@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161020115720.3511f326@penny> <20161021081530.013daa6c@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021075657.GB21242@busgosu.mones.org> <157e6b83b40.279a.79732b7d3021152a70d3b4b4d6ad032f@squirrel.nl> <20161021130833.18b2965d@anthra> <20161021133633.2eda40ac@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021122052.GA29000@busgosu.mones.org> Message-ID: <20161021180644.401f0815@phoenix.squirrel.nl> On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 14:20:52 +0200 Ricardo Mones wrote: > Anyway, another idea to protect yourself from unwanted keystrokes: put > your a simple yes/no dialog wrapper¹ around your call to claws-mail, so > you have to confirm the launch :-) Yes, but I only want to do this if claws is not ye running. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From cwallace at lodgingcompany.com Fri Oct 21 18:52:27 2016 From: cwallace at lodgingcompany.com (Chad Wallace) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 09:52:27 -0700 Subject: [Users] Cancel startup from password dialog In-Reply-To: <20161021180644.401f0815@phoenix.squirrel.nl> References: <20161020082718.6f5fb5c7@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161020115720.3511f326@penny> <20161021081530.013daa6c@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021075657.GB21242@busgosu.mones.org> <157e6b83b40.279a.79732b7d3021152a70d3b4b4d6ad032f@squirrel.nl> <20161021130833.18b2965d@anthra> <20161021133633.2eda40ac@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021122052.GA29000@busgosu.mones.org> <20161021180644.401f0815@phoenix.squirrel.nl> Message-ID: <20161021095227.2061d4c4@ws78.int.tlc> On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 18:06:44 +0200 Johan Vromans wrote: > On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 14:20:52 +0200 > Ricardo Mones wrote: > > > Anyway, another idea to protect yourself from unwanted keystrokes: > > put your a simple yes/no dialog wrapper¹ around your call to > > claws-mail, so you have to confirm the launch :-) > > Yes, but I only want to do this if claws is not ye running. Will this work? #!/bin/bash if ! ps -C claws-mail > /dev/null; then zenity --question --title="Confirm Claws Mail Launch" \ --text="Do you really want to run Claws Mail?" \ --width=400 2>/dev/null if [ $? -ne 1 ]; then claws-mail "$@" fi fi -- C. Chad Wallace, B.Sc. The Lodging Company http://www.lodgingcompany.com/ OpenPGP Public Key ID: 0x262208A0 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From codejodler at gmx.ch Fri Oct 21 20:16:06 2016 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 20:16:06 +0200 Subject: [Users] mangling URL? In-Reply-To: <20161019234428.3e0cbee3@acer-suse.lan> References: <20161018225643.4d952daa@acer-suse.lan> <20161019085025.4450efcf@kujata> <20161019234428.3e0cbee3@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: <20161021201606.6f1ab789.codejodler@gmx.ch> Dave, Not directly relate but just to mention it again: There is the possibility to insert the path to a script, as claws preference for browser. It does not fix when claws alerady break links, but offers you to choose different treatment depending on the URL. For example, you can download youtube links in the background or add login data or simply chose a different browser. For example, #!/bin/sh url="$1" # # Trigger list # Format: keyword {whitespace-separator} trigger-expression triggerlist="this this.url.com that that.domain.org youtube www.youtube" # # Defaults #browser="/usr/bin/iceweasel -new-tab" browser="/usr/local/bin/palemoon/palemoon -new-tab" dir_dl=~/Download/ log=$dir_dl/download.log # # Log function log_url () { echo "`date +%y-%m-%d`: $url" >> $log; } # # Debug echo "xxx claws browser: Got URL = "$url # # Trigger loop # match=`echo "$triggerlist" | while read keyword trigger; do echo "$url" | grep -q "$trigger" && echo $keyword && break done` # echo "Found: "$match; exit case $match in this) # example: convert url url=`echo "$url" | sed 's/\.new#new$/.0/1'` ;; that) # example: background download cd $dir_dl; browser="/usr/bin/wget " log_url ;; youtube) # background download dir_dl=$dir_dl/tube cd $dir_dl; browser="/usr/bin/youtube-dl -i --user-agent 'none' " log_url # browser="/usr/bin/get_flash_videos -q -y " ;; esac exec $browser $url From jvromans at squirrel.nl Fri Oct 21 21:08:35 2016 From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 21:08:35 +0200 Subject: [Users] Cancel startup from password dialog In-Reply-To: <20161021095227.2061d4c4@ws78.int.tlc> References: <20161020082718.6f5fb5c7@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161020115720.3511f326@penny> <20161021081530.013daa6c@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021075657.GB21242@busgosu.mones.org> <157e6b83b40.279a.79732b7d3021152a70d3b4b4d6ad032f@squirrel.nl> <20161021130833.18b2965d@anthra> <20161021133633.2eda40ac@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021122052.GA29000@busgosu.mones.org> <20161021180644.401f0815@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021095227.2061d4c4@ws78.int.tlc> Message-ID: <20161021210835.2367708a@phoenix.squirrel.nl> On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 09:52:27 -0700 Chad Wallace wrote: > Will this work? If your ps supports BSD syntax, yes. But actually this is quite similar to the script I use for some other programs :) . Hint (question) to claws developers: if you write a ~/.claws-mail/tmp/claws-crashed file, why not put the actual claws process id in it? -- Johan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dave at howorth.org.uk Sun Oct 23 17:49:50 2016 From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 16:49:50 +0100 Subject: [Users] Cancel startup from password dialog In-Reply-To: <20161021210835.2367708a@phoenix.squirrel.nl> References: <20161020082718.6f5fb5c7@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161020115720.3511f326@penny> <20161021081530.013daa6c@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021075657.GB21242@busgosu.mones.org> <157e6b83b40.279a.79732b7d3021152a70d3b4b4d6ad032f@squirrel.nl> <20161021130833.18b2965d@anthra> <20161021133633.2eda40ac@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021122052.GA29000@busgosu.mones.org> <20161021180644.401f0815@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021095227.2061d4c4@ws78.int.tlc> <20161021210835.2367708a@phoenix.squirrel.nl> Message-ID: <20161023164950.271677fc@acer-suse.lan> On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 21:08:35 +0200 Johan Vromans wrote: > On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 09:52:27 -0700 > Chad Wallace wrote: > > > Will this work? > > If your ps supports BSD syntax, yes. This is a strange observation. BSD syntax is normally taken to mean options written without a '-' character in front, like ps aux. But bizarrely, FreeBSD uses a version of ps that does use a leading '-' and in which -C is explained as "Change the way the CPU percentage is calculated by using a ``raw'' CPU calculation that ignores ``resident'' time (this normally has no effect)." So in neither case is the comment appropriate AFAICT. Fortunately, the version of ps used by linux does use -C to mean "Select by command name". Cheers, Dave > But actually this is quite similar to the script I use for some other > programs :) . > > Hint (question) to claws developers: if you write a > ~/.claws-mail/tmp/claws-crashed file, why not put the actual claws > process id in it? > > -- Johan From pmsavoy at windstream.net Sun Oct 23 20:24:34 2016 From: pmsavoy at windstream.net (Melinda Savoy) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 13:24:34 -0500 Subject: [Users] Notification system tray icon NOT working Message-ID: <20161023132434.28610011@msavoyLaptop> I just installed the Claws Mail package. I also downloaded and loaded the Notification plugin. How do I get the notification system tray icon to work? I've completed the setup where I enabled this type of notification but to no avail. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. From cwallace at lodgingcompany.com Sun Oct 23 20:39:33 2016 From: cwallace at lodgingcompany.com (Chad Wallace) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 11:39:33 -0700 Subject: [Users] Notification system tray icon NOT working In-Reply-To: <20161023132434.28610011@msavoyLaptop> References: <20161023132434.28610011@msavoyLaptop> Message-ID: <20161023113933.0abb8876@ws78.int.tlc> On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 13:24:34 -0500 Melinda Savoy wrote: > I just installed the Claws Mail package. I also downloaded and > loaded the Notification plugin. > > How do I get the notification system tray icon to work? I've > completed the setup where I enabled this type of notification but to > no avail. > > Any help would be appreciated. I think the solution will depend on what desktop environment you're running. I'm using Gnome 3, and the Popup feature of Notification works for me. -- C. Chad Wallace, B.Sc. The Lodging Company http://www.lodgingcompany.com/ OpenPGP Public Key ID: 0x262208A0 From pmsavoy at windstream.net Sun Oct 23 21:10:16 2016 From: pmsavoy at windstream.net (Melinda Savoy) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 14:10:16 -0500 Subject: [Users] Notification system tray icon NOT working In-Reply-To: <20161023113933.0abb8876@ws78.int.tlc> References: <20161023132434.28610011@msavoyLaptop> <20161023113933.0abb8876@ws78.int.tlc> Message-ID: <20161023141016.32881db2@msavoyLaptop> On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 11:39:33 -0700 Chad Wallace wrote: > On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 13:24:34 -0500 > Melinda Savoy wrote: > > > I just installed the Claws Mail package. I also downloaded and > > loaded the Notification plugin. > > > > How do I get the notification system tray icon to work? I've > > completed the setup where I enabled this type of notification but to > > no avail. > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > I think the solution will depend on what desktop environment you're > running. I'm using Gnome 3, and the Popup feature of Notification > works for me. > > Hi Chad, thanks for the quick reply. Sorry I forgot to mention that I'm working on the Ubuntu 16.04 Unity desktop. Any help/direction would again be appreciated. Thank you. From jvromans at squirrel.nl Sun Oct 23 23:49:25 2016 From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 23:49:25 +0200 Subject: [Users] Cancel startup from password dialog In-Reply-To: <20161023164950.271677fc@acer-suse.lan> References: <20161020082718.6f5fb5c7@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161020115720.3511f326@penny> <20161021081530.013daa6c@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021075657.GB21242@busgosu.mones.org> <157e6b83b40.279a.79732b7d3021152a70d3b4b4d6ad032f@squirrel.nl> <20161021130833.18b2965d@anthra> <20161021133633.2eda40ac@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021122052.GA29000@busgosu.mones.org> <20161021180644.401f0815@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021095227.2061d4c4@ws78.int.tlc> <20161021210835.2367708a@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161023164950.271677fc@acer-suse.lan> Message-ID: <20161023234925.65496f69@phoenix.squirrel.nl> On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 16:49:50 +0100 Dave Howorth wrote: > > If your ps supports BSD syntax, yes. > > This is a strange observation. BSD syntax is normally taken to mean > options written without a '-' character in front, like ps aux. > ... > So in neither case is the comment appropriate AFAICT. Fortunately, the > version of ps used by linux does use -C to mean "Select by command > name". Well, my ps (Fedora 23) reports: $ ps -C foo error: unsupported option (BSD syntax) Even though it is clearly in the docs: -C cmdlist Select by command name. This selects the processes whose executable name is given in cmdlist. Puzzling, Johan From silver.bullet at zoho.com Mon Oct 24 00:28:10 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 00:28:10 +0200 Subject: [Users] Cancel startup from password dialog In-Reply-To: <20161023234925.65496f69@phoenix.squirrel.nl> References: <20161020082718.6f5fb5c7@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161020115720.3511f326@penny> <20161021081530.013daa6c@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021075657.GB21242@busgosu.mones.org> <157e6b83b40.279a.79732b7d3021152a70d3b4b4d6ad032f@squirrel.nl> <20161021130833.18b2965d@anthra> <20161021133633.2eda40ac@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021122052.GA29000@busgosu.mones.org> <20161021180644.401f0815@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021095227.2061d4c4@ws78.int.tlc> <20161021210835.2367708a@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161023164950.271677fc@acer-suse.lan> <20161023234925.65496f69@phoenix.squirrel.nl> Message-ID: <20161024002810.2206eb7a@utnubu> On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 23:49:25 +0200, Johan Vromans wrote: >Well, my ps (Fedora 23) reports: > > $ ps -C foo > error: unsupported option (BSD syntax) Supported by Ubuntu's official repositories and at least by the user repository of Arch Linux, perhaps by the official repositories, too. [root at moonstudio ~]# cat /etc/issue Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS \n \l [root at moonstudio ~]# ps -C systemd PID TTY TIME CMD 1 ? 00:00:04 systemd 1248 ? 00:00:00 systemd [root at moonstudio ~]# systemd-nspawn -bqD /mnt/archlinux/ [snip] [root at archlinux ~]# cat /etc/issue Arch Linux \r (\l) [root at archlinux ~]# ps -C systemd PID TTY TIME CMD 1 ? 00:00:00 systemd 105 ? 00:00:00 systemd [root at archlinux ~]# pacman -Q procps-ng-classic procps-ng-classic 3.3.11-1 [root at archlinux ~]# shutdown -h now [snip] [root at moonstudio ~]# dpkg -l procps | grep ii ii procps 2:3.3.10-4ubuntu2 amd64 /proc file system utilities From avrunin at math.umass.edu Mon Oct 24 00:52:50 2016 From: avrunin at math.umass.edu (George Avrunin) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 18:52:50 -0400 Subject: [Users] Cancel startup from password dialog In-Reply-To: <20161023234925.65496f69@phoenix.squirrel.nl> References: <20161020082718.6f5fb5c7@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161020115720.3511f326@penny> <20161021081530.013daa6c@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021075657.GB21242@busgosu.mones.org> <157e6b83b40.279a.79732b7d3021152a70d3b4b4d6ad032f@squirrel.nl> <20161021130833.18b2965d@anthra> <20161021133633.2eda40ac@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021122052.GA29000@busgosu.mones.org> <20161021180644.401f0815@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021095227.2061d4c4@ws78.int.tlc> <20161021210835.2367708a@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161023164950.271677fc@acer-suse.lan> <20161023234925.65496f69@phoenix.squirrel.nl> Message-ID: <20161023185250.3a7e545f@g.localdomain> On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 23:49:25 +0200, Johan Vromans wrote: > Well, my ps (Fedora 23) reports: > > $ ps -C foo > error: unsupported option (BSD syntax) > > Even though it is clearly in the docs: > > -C cmdlist > Select by command name. This selects the processes whose > executable name is given in cmdlist. > > Puzzling, > Johan Works for me on Fedora 24: [~] 19) ps -C systemd PID TTY TIME CMD 1 ? 00:00:04 systemd 1270 ? 00:00:00 systemd ps is in /usr/bin/ps and comes from the rpm procps-ng-3.3.10-11.fc24.x86_64. And there's an example in the man page of using the -C option. I don't have a Fedora 23 box to try it on. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From andrej at kacian.sk Mon Oct 24 00:59:52 2016 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 00:59:52 +0200 Subject: [Users] Cancel startup from password dialog In-Reply-To: <20161024002810.2206eb7a@utnubu> References: <20161020082718.6f5fb5c7@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161020115720.3511f326@penny> <20161021081530.013daa6c@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021075657.GB21242@busgosu.mones.org> <157e6b83b40.279a.79732b7d3021152a70d3b4b4d6ad032f@squirrel.nl> <20161021130833.18b2965d@anthra> <20161021133633.2eda40ac@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021122052.GA29000@busgosu.mones.org> <20161021180644.401f0815@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021095227.2061d4c4@ws78.int.tlc> <20161021210835.2367708a@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161023164950.271677fc@acer-suse.lan> <20161023234925.65496f69@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161024002810.2206eb7a@utnubu> Message-ID: <20161024005952.29556b47@penny> On Mon, 24 Oct 2016 00:28:10 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Supported by Ubuntu's official repositories and at least by the user > repository of Arch Linux, perhaps by the official repositories, too. FWIW, Debian's ps manpage has following environment variable listed: I_WANT_A_BROKEN_PS Force obsolete command line interpretation. $ ps -C ps PID TTY TIME CMD 15923 pts/5 00:00:00 ps $ I_WANT_A_BROKEN_PS=yesplease ps -C ps error: unsupported option (BSD syntax) Usage: ps [options] Try 'ps --help ' or 'ps --help ' for additional help text. For more details see ps(1). $ Regards, -- Andrej From jvromans at squirrel.nl Mon Oct 24 08:19:53 2016 From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 08:19:53 +0200 Subject: [Users] Cancel startup from password dialog In-Reply-To: <20161024005952.29556b47@penny> References: <20161020082718.6f5fb5c7@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161020115720.3511f326@penny> <20161021081530.013daa6c@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021075657.GB21242@busgosu.mones.org> <157e6b83b40.279a.79732b7d3021152a70d3b4b4d6ad032f@squirrel.nl> <20161021130833.18b2965d@anthra> <20161021133633.2eda40ac@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021122052.GA29000@busgosu.mones.org> <20161021180644.401f0815@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021095227.2061d4c4@ws78.int.tlc> <20161021210835.2367708a@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161023164950.271677fc@acer-suse.lan> <20161023234925.65496f69@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161024002810.2206eb7a@utnubu> <20161024005952.29556b47@penny> Message-ID: <20161024081953.6079eede@phoenix.squirrel.nl> On Mon, 24 Oct 2016 00:59:52 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > FWIW, Debian's ps manpage has following environment variable listed: > > I_WANT_A_BROKEN_PS > Force obsolete command line interpretation. Ah! Apparently, eons ago, I added this to my login profile... Removing it makes "ps -C" work as documented! Thanks! -- Johan From h.m.brand at xs4all.nl Mon Oct 24 08:19:58 2016 From: h.m.brand at xs4all.nl (H.Merijn Brand) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 08:19:58 +0200 Subject: [Users] Cancel startup from password dialog In-Reply-To: <20161023234925.65496f69@phoenix.squirrel.nl> References: <20161020082718.6f5fb5c7@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161020115720.3511f326@penny> <20161021081530.013daa6c@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021075657.GB21242@busgosu.mones.org> <157e6b83b40.279a.79732b7d3021152a70d3b4b4d6ad032f@squirrel.nl> <20161021130833.18b2965d@anthra> <20161021133633.2eda40ac@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021122052.GA29000@busgosu.mones.org> <20161021180644.401f0815@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161021095227.2061d4c4@ws78.int.tlc> <20161021210835.2367708a@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20161023164950.271677fc@acer-suse.lan> <20161023234925.65496f69@phoenix.squirrel.nl> Message-ID: <20161024081958.40bfda97@pc09.procura.nl> On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 23:49:25 +0200, Johan Vromans wrote: > On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 16:49:50 +0100 > Dave Howorth wrote: > > > > If your ps supports BSD syntax, yes. > > > > This is a strange observation. BSD syntax is normally taken to mean > > options written without a '-' character in front, like ps aux. > > ... > > So in neither case is the comment appropriate AFAICT. Fortunately, the > > version of ps used by linux does use -C to mean "Select by command > > name". > > Well, my ps (Fedora 23) reports: > > $ ps -C foo > error: unsupported option (BSD syntax) > > Even though it is clearly in the docs: > > -C cmdlist > Select by command name. This selects the processes whose > executable name is given in cmdlist. Some ps binaries written in the POSIX times added these options conditionally by environment variables. (see Andrej's answer too) Some enabled these new options by defining $UNIX95 to any value $ env UNIX95="" ps -C boo *might* work completely different: HP-UX 11.23pa2$ ps -C boo ps: illegal option -- C usage: ps [-edaxzflP] [-u ulist] [-g glist] [-p plist] [-t tlist] [-R prmgroup] [-Z psetidlist] HP-UX 11.23pa2$ env UNIX95="" ps -C boo PID TTY TIME CMD That is a binary from over 11 years old: /usr/bin/ps: $Revision: 92453-07 linker linker crt0.o B.11.16.01 030415 $ ps.c $Date: 2005/05/30 03:42:36 $Revision: r11.23/4 PATCH_11.23 (PHCO_32475) $Revision: @(#) ps R11.23_BL2005_0530_2 PATCH_11.23 PHCO_32475 /usr/bin/ps: $Revision: 92453-07 linker linker crt0.o B.11.16.01 030415 $ $Date: 2005/05/30 03:42:36 $ > Puzzling, > Johan -- H.Merijn Brand http://tux.nl Perl Monger http://amsterdam.pm.org/ using perl5.00307 .. 5.25 porting perl5 on HP-UX, AIX, and openSUSE http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/ http://www.test-smoke.org/ http://qa.perl.org http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Oct 24 10:53:37 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 08:53:37 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3644] Fancy renders blank page for most html emails when using shared-mime-info 1.6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3644 --- Comment #6 from Paul --- *** Bug 3713 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Oct 24 10:55:43 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 08:55:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3704] incorrect return when viewing SSL certs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3704 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Oct 24 10:57:59 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 08:57:59 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3691] Unlike click to focus, TAB is inconsistent and does not update panes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3691 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Oct 24 10:59:34 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 08:59:34 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3655] Gmail IMAP account asks to "Rebuild folder tree" on each launch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3655 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Oct 24 18:43:16 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 16:43:16 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 1972] undo Move to Trash In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1972 --- Comment #7 from fghuzrazfvfgbfhudgbzudfag at dontsendmespam.de --- I'm also looking forward to have this option. For everybody (like me today) who unintentionally deleted (moved to trash) mails, here is a workaround: Claws changes the UID of a mail upon moving it. On a file system level, that means moving in combination with renaming the mail file(s). Therefore, one can identify moved mails by looking at and sorting according to the highest = newest UIDs in claws, and one can identify their files (which are named after their UIDs) by looking at and sorting according to the "created at" attributes in file system browser. Good luck! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Oct 25 02:13:49 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 00:13:49 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3715] New: Alt-Tab behavior on Mate Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3715 Bug ID: 3715 Summary: Alt-Tab behavior on Mate Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.14.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: jdunn14 at gmail.com I'm using the Mate Desktop spin of Fedora 24 and when I try to alt-tab between claws-mail and other applications it does not behave as expected. Specifically, I can tab away from claws-mail with no problem, but pressing alt-tab again does not bring claws-mail back to the foreground. It looks like every time alt-tab is pressed claws-mail is the first item on the window list, but that means tabbing to it requires cycling through all the windows or shift-alt-tabbing a couple of times. This is fairly annoying just because it breaks a very simple and standard behavior. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Oct 25 07:38:25 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 05:38:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3715] Alt-Tab behavior on Mate In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3715 Andrej Kacian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian --- Not a Claws Mail bug, it works correctly in any other environment I have ever tried it in. Looks a lot like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1493408 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Oct 25 16:45:31 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 14:45:31 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3715] Alt-Tab behavior on Mate In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3715 --- Comment #2 from Joseph Dunn --- Thanks for the pointer. This might even just be user-error since I can't seem to replicate it this morning anyway. Sorry for the noise. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From t_pol at tiscali.it Wed Oct 26 14:02:49 2016 From: t_pol at tiscali.it (T_POL) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 14:02:49 +0200 Subject: [Users] Filtering on Incorporation Message-ID: <20161026140249.31aad75d@agmob.localdomain> Hi list, I have a filter rule which works fine on MANUAL filtering but fails on INCORPORATION filtering. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks to anybody answering. Ciao Logs: =============================================== [13:27:36] filtering message (incorporation) ... ... [13:27:36] checking if message matches [ from regexpcase "IKEA.*FAMILY" ] > message does not match =============================================== [13:28:11] filtering message (manually) ... ... [13:28:11] checking if message matches [ from regexpcase "IKEA.*FAMILY" ] > message matches =============================================== From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Oct 26 14:12:38 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 13:12:38 +0100 Subject: [Users] Filtering on Incorporation In-Reply-To: <20161026140249.31aad75d@agmob.localdomain> References: <20161026140249.31aad75d@agmob.localdomain> Message-ID: <20161026131238.559a388a@kujata> On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 14:02:49 +0200 T_POL wrote: > I have a filter rule which works fine on MANUAL filtering but fails > on INCORPORATION filtering. Any help will be appreciated. > Thanks to anybody answering. It's an Account-based filtering rule, and you have chosen to apply them regardless of the account they belong to when manually filtering. Presumably you have also chosen to hide the dialogue which asks you this when manually filtering. To reinstate it, go to /Configuration/Preferences/Other/Miscellaneous check 'Ask about account specific rules when filtering manually'. with regards Paul From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Oct 26 14:25:02 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 13:25:02 +0100 Subject: [Users] Notification system tray icon NOT working In-Reply-To: <20161023141016.32881db2@msavoyLaptop> References: <20161023132434.28610011@msavoyLaptop> <20161023113933.0abb8876@ws78.int.tlc> <20161023141016.32881db2@msavoyLaptop> Message-ID: <20161026132502.366e59df@kujata> On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 14:10:16 -0500 Melinda Savoy wrote: > Hi Chad, thanks for the quick reply. Sorry I forgot to mention that > I'm working on the Ubuntu 16.04 Unity desktop. Any help/direction > would again be appreciated. The next release will have support for unity. with regards Paul From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Oct 26 14:26:02 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 13:26:02 +0100 Subject: [Users] mangling URL? In-Reply-To: <20161021201606.6f1ab789.codejodler@gmx.ch> References: <20161018225643.4d952daa@acer-suse.lan> <20161019085025.4450efcf@kujata> <20161019234428.3e0cbee3@acer-suse.lan> <20161021201606.6f1ab789.codejodler@gmx.ch> Message-ID: <20161026132602.774e90c0@kujata> On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 20:16:06 +0200 Michael wrote: > It does not fix when claws alerady break links Claws Mail does not break links!! with regards Paul From t_pol at tiscali.it Wed Oct 26 14:26:43 2016 From: t_pol at tiscali.it (T_POL) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 14:26:43 +0200 Subject: [Users] Filtering on Incorporation In-Reply-To: <20161026131238.559a388a@kujata> References: <20161026140249.31aad75d@agmob.localdomain> <20161026131238.559a388a@kujata> Message-ID: <20161026142643.3c843e5e@agmob.localdomain> On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 13:12:38 +0100 Paul wrote: > On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 14:02:49 +0200 > T_POL wrote: > > > I have a filter rule which works fine on MANUAL filtering but fails > > on INCORPORATION filtering. Any help will be appreciated. > > Thanks to anybody answering. > > It's an Account-based filtering rule, and you have chosen to apply > them regardless of the account they belong to when manually filtering. > > Presumably you have also chosen to hide the dialogue which asks you > this when manually filtering. To reinstate it, go > to /Configuration/Preferences/Other/Miscellaneous check 'Ask about > account specific rules when filtering manually'. > > with regards > > Paul Thanks for your answer Paul, 1) No. It is not an account-based rule, (I only have one local account configured, mails are retrieved via fetchmail) 2) No. That flag is already checked. Regards, Angelo From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Oct 26 14:59:48 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 13:59:48 +0100 Subject: [Users] Filtering on Incorporation In-Reply-To: <20161026142643.3c843e5e@agmob.localdomain> References: <20161026140249.31aad75d@agmob.localdomain> <20161026131238.559a388a@kujata> <20161026142643.3c843e5e@agmob.localdomain> Message-ID: <20161026135948.4d4b94e9@kujata> On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 14:26:43 +0200 T_POL wrote: > (I only have one local account configured, mails are retrieved via > fetchmail) Fetchmail dumps mail to /var/spool/mail/[USER] ? with regards Paul From t_pol at tiscali.it Wed Oct 26 15:16:46 2016 From: t_pol at tiscali.it (T_POL) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 15:16:46 +0200 Subject: [Users] Filtering on Incorporation In-Reply-To: <20161026135948.4d4b94e9@kujata> References: <20161026140249.31aad75d@agmob.localdomain> <20161026131238.559a388a@kujata> <20161026142643.3c843e5e@agmob.localdomain> <20161026135948.4d4b94e9@kujata> Message-ID: <20161026151646.55e8a19b@agmob.localdomain> On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 13:59:48 +0100 Paul wrote: > On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 14:26:43 +0200 > T_POL wrote: > > > (I only have one local account configured, mails are retrieved via > > fetchmail) > > Fetchmail dumps mail to /var/spool/mail/[USER] ? > > with regards > > Paul Yes it does. Is this the culprit ? Thanks, Angelo From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Oct 26 15:41:57 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 14:41:57 +0100 Subject: [Users] Filtering on Incorporation In-Reply-To: <20161026151646.55e8a19b@agmob.localdomain> References: <20161026140249.31aad75d@agmob.localdomain> <20161026131238.559a388a@kujata> <20161026142643.3c843e5e@agmob.localdomain> <20161026135948.4d4b94e9@kujata> <20161026151646.55e8a19b@agmob.localdomain> Message-ID: <20161026144157.43546f6b@kujata> On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 15:16:46 +0200 T_POL wrote: > Yes it does. > Is this the culprit ? No, that's not the culprit at all. Filtering for local accounts works the same as any other. Maybe you have not checked 'filter messages on receiving' for your account. If it's not that, then more info is needed. Filtering works, so I think it is user error. with regards Paul From brad at fineby.me.uk Wed Oct 26 16:53:05 2016 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 15:53:05 +0100 Subject: [Users] Toolbar "Go to Next Unread" behaviour Message-ID: <20161026154936.1a62863e@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Hello All, Yesterday, I upgraded my CM to Git gf9b68f and have noticed that the tool bar "Next" button's behaviour has changed. It used to select, and open, the next unread message, moving from folder to folder as necessary. Since my upgrade, the Next button behaves differently if there is more than one unread message in a folder. It opens the first message fine, but when I click the Next button a second time, it moves to the next unread message, but does not open it. Subsequent presses of the button do nothing. To proceed, I have to open the message as a separate event. I did notice there were a lot of changes in various source files, but hopefully this one can be reverted to the previous behaviour. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" My body's an oasis to drink from as you please Mirage - Siouxsie & The Banshees -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 455 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Oct 26 17:03:32 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 16:03:32 +0100 Subject: [Users] Toolbar "Go to Next Unread" behaviour In-Reply-To: <20161026154936.1a62863e@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20161026154936.1a62863e@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20161026160332.2e55e4bd@kujata> On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 15:53:05 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: > Yesterday, I upgraded my CM to Git gf9b68f and have noticed that the > tool bar "Next" button's behaviour has changed. It used to select, > and open, the next unread message, moving from folder to folder as > necessary. > > Since my upgrade, the Next button behaves differently if there is > more than one unread message in a folder. It opens the first > message fine, but when I click the Next button a second time, it > moves to the next unread message, but does not open it. Subsequent > presses of the button do nothing. To proceed, I have to open the > message as a separate event. See /Configuration/Preferences/Display/Summaries, 'open message when selected'. It does what you specify here. with regards Paul From brad at fineby.me.uk Wed Oct 26 17:56:49 2016 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 16:56:49 +0100 Subject: [Users] Toolbar "Go to Next Unread" behaviour In-Reply-To: <20161026160332.2e55e4bd@kujata> References: <20161026154936.1a62863e@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20161026160332.2e55e4bd@kujata> Message-ID: <20161026163647.19f9ba87@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 16:03:32 +0100 Paul wrote: Hello Paul, >See /Configuration/Preferences/Display/Summaries, 'open message when >selected'. It does what you specify here. Thanks, yes it does. However, changing that setting also has (to me) a negative side effect. When I alter that setting to anything other than "Never" and I click on a folder (by means other than the next button), a message always (message view is always visible here) gets opened and marked as read. I don't often want that to happen. This is because I sometimes need to flip between folders when replying to certain messages. I could set the mark message read timer to a non-zero value, but that too I find undesirable. Yeah, I want it all ways, I know. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Walking through town is quite scary I Predict A Riot - Kaiser Chiefs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 455 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Oct 26 18:01:01 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 17:01:01 +0100 Subject: [Users] Toolbar "Go to Next Unread" behaviour In-Reply-To: <20161026163647.19f9ba87@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20161026154936.1a62863e@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20161026160332.2e55e4bd@kujata> <20161026163647.19f9ba87@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20161026170101.2cfcf471@kujata> On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 16:56:49 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: > Yeah, I want it all ways, I know. Yep, you can never have enough options! :) with regards Paul From t_pol at tiscali.it Wed Oct 26 19:13:35 2016 From: t_pol at tiscali.it (T_POL) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 19:13:35 +0200 Subject: [Users] Filtering on Incorporation In-Reply-To: <20161026144157.43546f6b@kujata> References: <20161026140249.31aad75d@agmob.localdomain> <20161026131238.559a388a@kujata> <20161026142643.3c843e5e@agmob.localdomain> <20161026135948.4d4b94e9@kujata> <20161026151646.55e8a19b@agmob.localdomain> <20161026144157.43546f6b@kujata> Message-ID: <20161026191335.6358d7f2@agmob.localdomain> On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 14:41:57 +0100 Paul wrote: > On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 15:16:46 +0200 > T_POL wrote: > > > Yes it does. > > Is this the culprit ? > > No, that's not the culprit at all. Filtering for local accounts works > the same as any other. > > Maybe you have not checked 'filter messages on receiving' for your > account. > > If it's not that, then more info is needed. Filtering works, so I > think it is user error. > > with regards > > Paul OK. Thanks again for your support. I'll try creating a brand new filter rule and make some checks. Ciao, Angelo From rostedt at goodmis.org Wed Oct 26 21:16:49 2016 From: rostedt at goodmis.org (Steven Rostedt) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 15:16:49 -0400 Subject: [Users] How to kill the "Process Mark" dialog? Message-ID: <20161026151649.7b50e5ec@gandalf.local.home> Hi, With 3.14 things have changed a bit that are kind of annoying. One is that I don't want to have my deletions executed right a way. But I like to have them hidden. With the latest update, I need to have the "Execute immediately" for moved and deleted emails turned off. Because if I accidentally delete something, I just want to undelete it and not go searching for it in the Trash folder. But now with this, two things are annoying. One, is that the deleted message stays visible, even with "Hide deleted messages" set. And another is this constant "Process Mark" dialog that keeps popping up. I like the old way better. Where things were not deleted until "expunge" was executed, and I can hide them. How do I get back to that old behavior? -- Steve P.S. I would love being Cc'd as I don't read this list, and wont know I got an answer until I remember to go look at it. From richardkimber at btinternet.com Thu Oct 27 21:06:01 2016 From: richardkimber at btinternet.com (R Kimber) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 20:06:01 +0100 Subject: [Users] Next message after deletion Message-ID: <57F4D3B40537E29A@rgout03.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk> (added by postmaster@btinternet.com) I'm probably being obtuse here, but how do I control which message becomes the current message after I've deleted a message in the middle of a list of messages in a folder. At the moment, if I delete a message then the one above it becomes highlighted. In fact I'd prefer the new highlighted message to be the one below. My messages are listed with oldest at the top, if that's relevant. - Richard. -- Richard Kimber From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Oct 27 21:33:42 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 20:33:42 +0100 Subject: [Users] Next message after deletion In-Reply-To: <57F4D3B40537E29A@rgout03.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk> References: <57F4D3B40537E29A@rgout03.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk> Message-ID: <20161027203342.6a47095b@kujata> On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 20:06:01 +0100 R Kimber wrote: > At the moment, if I delete a message then the one above it becomes > highlighted. In fact I'd prefer the new highlighted message to be > the one below. My messages are listed with oldest at the top, if > that's relevant. Look for 'next_on_delete' here: http://claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html#adv_hidden with regards Paul From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Oct 28 10:59:18 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 08:59:18 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3716] New: Segmentation fault when trying to remove MH. Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3716 Bug ID: 3716 Summary: Segmentation fault when trying to remove MH. Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.13.2 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: critical Priority: P3 Component: Folders Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: br3eze at rambler.ru Removed Account. Removed Account's MailFolder (MH). Starting ClawsMail in terminal.. ~/MailFolder/queue: stat: No such file or directory -> Segmentation fault Played with removeing dirs/offline mode/rebuilding tree/etc. Account and it's dirs removed. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Oct 28 11:01:56 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 09:01:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3716] Segmentation fault when trying to remove MH. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3716 --- Comment #1 from Andrew L. --- Slackware 14.2 amd64 glibc-2.24_multilib -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From richardkimber at btinternet.com Fri Oct 28 18:18:04 2016 From: richardkimber at btinternet.com (R Kimber) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 17:18:04 +0100 Subject: [Users] Next message after deletion In-Reply-To: <20161027203342.6a47095b@kujata> References: <57F4D3B40537E29A@rgout03.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk> <20161027203342.6a47095b@kujata> Message-ID: <57F4D509055E1A91@rgout04.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk> (added by postmaster@btinternet.com) On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 20:33:42 +0100 Paul wrote: > Look for 'next_on_delete' here: > http://claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html#adv_hidden Ah. Brilliant. Thanks. - Richard -- Richard Kimber From rostedt at goodmis.org Fri Oct 28 21:58:17 2016 From: rostedt at goodmis.org (Steven Rostedt) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 15:58:17 -0400 Subject: [Users] How to kill the "Process Mark" dialog? In-Reply-To: <20161026151649.7b50e5ec@gandalf.local.home> References: <20161026151649.7b50e5ec@gandalf.local.home> Message-ID: <20161028155817.54cbef90@gandalf.local.home> On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 15:16:49 -0400 Steven Rostedt wrote: > Hi, > > With 3.14 things have changed a bit that are kind of annoying. One is > that I don't want to have my deletions executed right a way. But I like > to have them hidden. With the latest update, I need to have the > "Execute immediately" for moved and deleted emails turned off. Because > if I accidentally delete something, I just want to undelete it and not > go searching for it in the Trash folder. > > But now with this, two things are annoying. One, is that the deleted > message stays visible, even with "Hide deleted messages" set. And > another is this constant "Process Mark" dialog that keeps popping up. > > I like the old way better. Where things were not deleted until "expunge" > was executed, and I can hide them. How do I get back to that old > behavior? > Nobody else is annoyed by this update? Everyone likes the deleted messages going directly into Trash right away even if by accident? Or they like this annoying constantly popping up "Process Mark" dialog, and not being able to hide deleted messages? What's the "Hide deleted messages" option good for anyway if you can't have deleted messages hanging around and they don't seem to be hidden with this option when they are around? -- Steve From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Oct 29 10:41:51 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 08:41:51 +0000 Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?b?W0J1ZyAzNzE3XSBOZXc6ICDkv6HnrrHnhKHms5Xnmbs=?= =?utf-8?b?5YWl?= Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3717 Bug ID: 3717 Summary: 信箱無法登入 Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: other Hardware: Other OS: All Status: NEW Severity: major Priority: P3 Component: Filtering Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: superwoman72 at gmail.com Created attachment 1691 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1691&action=edit 照片 tk880a at gmail.com tk740a at gmail.com asd5522002 at gmail.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Oct 29 10:56:01 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 08:56:01 +0000 Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?b?W0J1ZyAzNzE3XSAg5L+h566x54Sh5rOV55m75YWl?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3717 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From andrej at kacian.sk Sun Oct 30 21:59:49 2016 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 21:59:49 +0100 Subject: [Users] How to kill the "Process Mark" dialog? In-Reply-To: <20161026151649.7b50e5ec@gandalf.local.home> References: <20161026151649.7b50e5ec@gandalf.local.home> Message-ID: <20161030215949.1f7e6568@penny> On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 15:16:49 -0400 Steven Rostedt wrote: > But now with this, two things are annoying. One, is that the deleted > message stays visible, even with "Hide deleted messages" set. And > another is this constant "Process Mark" dialog that keeps popping up. The "Process Marks" dialog when toggling "Hide [...] messages" options seems like a bug to me, with a rather easy fix, which will probably land before the upcoming release. As for "Hide deleted messages" not working - it does work (with the above mentioned fix). Claws Mail just doesn't consider as deleted those messages you "moved to trash", since they are flagged to be moved, not deleted. If you mark message to be deleted, then "Hide deleted messages" correctly hides it (again, after the mentioned fix). Regards, -- Andrej From jvromans at squirrel.nl Mon Oct 31 13:51:08 2016 From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 13:51:08 +0100 Subject: [Users] Fancy shows the wrong message Message-ID: <20161031135108.3963f976@grainne.squirrel.nl> Hi, This happens once in a while, but too often to be ignored. I can visit messages and they display correctly, but when I switch to the 'fancy html view' I sometimes get a totally different message (one that has been displayed earlier). Apparently a caching issue. I tried rebuilding the folder tree but this doesn't help. When I get such a wrong message, and click on [x]Enable remote content, I get a message similar to Unable to load page Problem occurred while loading the URL file:///home/jv/.claws-mail/mimetmp/00000100.mimetmp.html Error opening file: No such file or directory I have no idea where to look further. From jvromans at squirrel.nl Mon Oct 31 13:54:54 2016 From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 13:54:54 +0100 Subject: [Users] Fancy shows the wrong message In-Reply-To: <20161031135108.3963f976@grainne.squirrel.nl> References: <20161031135108.3963f976@grainne.squirrel.nl> Message-ID: <20161031135454.6f627034@grainne.squirrel.nl> On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 13:51:08 +0100 Johan Vromans wrote: > When I get such a wrong message, and click on [x]Enable remote content, I > get a message similar to > > Unable to load page > > Problem occurred while loading the URL > file:///home/jv/.claws-mail/mimetmp/00000100.mimetmp.html > > Error opening file: No such file or directory This is shown on the console: (claws-mail:6467): Claws-Mail-WARNING **: Failed to save image: Fatal error in PNG image file: Invalid IHDR data (claws-mail:6467): Claws-Mail-WARNING **: Failed to save image: Failed to open '/home/jv/.claws-mail/addrbook/' for writing: Is a directory