From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun May  1 11:42:06 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 01 May 2016 09:42:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3640] Multiples issues with the licenses of
	Claws-mail-theme
In-Reply-To: <bug-3640-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3640-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3640-595-wftU4ejnoL@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3640

--- Comment #5 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #4)
> Hi,
> 
> thanks for the script.
> 
> For KDE4ish, isn't the relicensing allowed by the license itself? (point 2b
> of LGPLv3 or point 3 of LGPLv2 & 2.1)
> Or do I misunderstand the wording (I clearly ANAL) ?

Yes, after reading those points I also think those allow relicensing under GPL.

> thanks again
> regards
> Julien

Thank you for pointing them out ;-)

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.


From cel at celehner.com  Mon May  2 00:09:27 2016
From: cel at celehner.com (Charles Lehner)
Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 18:09:27 -0400
Subject: [Users] where do I change the external program invocation
 string?
In-Reply-To: <20160429084502.10323cbc@user-Satellite-A100>
References: <20160429084502.10323cbc@user-Satellite-A100>
Message-ID: <20160501180927.7aba035b@cel>

On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 08:45:02 -0700
Dave Stevens <geek at uniserve.com> wrote:

> I think it must be possible to change the text string somehow (i.e.,
> permanently) to add in the missing space but I don't know where to
> look. Anyone know?

Does editing ~/.claws-mail/command_history to replace the bad string 
work?

-- 
Charles


From cjk at teamcharliesangels.com  Mon May  2 00:35:17 2016
From: cjk at teamcharliesangels.com (Charlie Kravetz)
Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 16:35:17 -0600
Subject: [Users] where do I change the external program invocation
 string?
In-Reply-To: <20160429084502.10323cbc@user-Satellite-A100>
References: <20160429084502.10323cbc@user-Satellite-A100>
Message-ID: <20160501163517.18ee3783@whynot.keepingdreams.org>

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On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 08:45:02 -0700
Dave Stevens <geek at uniserve.com> wrote:

>Recently, for unknown reasons, Claws has.been refusing to open a .pdf
>attachment. 
>
>I click on the attachment name text (something.pdf) and am
>taken to a screen where there are several options that can be invoked
>by pressing a single key, in this case L. When I press the key a box
>pops up containing the text "evince'%s'" There is a default button so I
>push enter (or click on the button, it doesn't matter) then the box
>disappears and is replaced by another identical box. This loops as
>long as I have patience for. 
> 
>I've found a manual fix which is to insert a space between the text
>"evince" and the parameter string following "'%s'" Then I can push
>enter and evince starts with the correct file opening.
>
>I think it must be possible to change the text string somehow (i.e.,
>permanently) to add in the missing space but I don't know where to
>look. Anyone know?
>
>claws 3.9.3
>
>D
>
>

Using Debian Linux here, I find that under claws-mail menu,
Configuration -> Preferences -> External Programs. You can enter a
program or correct one already present. I usually just add my own
choice.

- -- 
Charlie Kravetz
Linux Registered User Number 425914
[http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html]
Never let anyone steal your DREAM.   [http://keepingdreams.com]
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From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Mon May  2 01:00:14 2016
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 17:00:14 -0600
Subject: [Users] Subtle Quick Search Issue
Message-ID: <20160501170014.3cc66d29@jhegaala.localdomain>

I found an interesting quirk in the quick search. I have incremental
searches enabled. So as I type into the quick search window, the list
of emails with the text narrows. So far so good.

Quick search also has a pull down menu of past quick search strings. I
had been thinking there was a bug because this menu never seemed to be
refreshed.

Here is the quirk. Normally with an incremental search I just type in
my string far enough to get a decent selection of messages. I just
found out that to preserve a search string for future selection in the
pull-down menu, I must hit the Enter key when I am satisfied that I want
to preserve it.

That might be worth documenting.

Also a typo in the on-line documentation:

/cilicking/clicking/

http://www.claws-mail.org/documentation.php?section=general

Thank you.

-- 

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
-- U.S. Const. Amendment IV

Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0  809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB


From bpmishra92 at gmail.com  Mon May  2 12:29:01 2016
From: bpmishra92 at gmail.com (Brahm Prakash Mishra)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 15:59:01 +0530
Subject: [Users] Screen flicker issue with claws mail on i3+compton
Message-ID: <CA+htnQ_M5oRrWKAkBYmkA+1ESxn85VYOYjW88YwyC=AGzN7iqQ@mail.gmail.com>

I need to start compton on i3 for my chromium to display correctly (it
gives me tearing issues otherwise). If I do that however, claws-mail starts
flickering. If I stop compton, it works properly again.

Could someone help me debug the issue? Where can I look for the cause of
this happening?

-- 
Brahm Prakash Mishra
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From epodata at gmail.com  Mon May  2 15:17:11 2016
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 15:17:11 +0200
Subject: [Users] How to use Ouick search.
Message-ID: <20160502151711.1a4c3793@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>

Selecting Quick search opens an input field next to the text "Extended".
An information button offers an explanation of how to set up a search.
Suppose I would search for <string> in all mail bodies I should enter
the following: b <string> and then what? No search button to hit so I
assume I should hit ENTER. But the only thing that happens is that the
search field turns yellow. Where are the results?

I sure miss something but can't see what that is. The manual is not very
informative so I need someone to please guide me in the right direction.

-- 
Erik


From pf at pfortin.com  Mon May  2 16:16:16 2016
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 10:16:16 -0400
Subject: [Users] How to use Ouick search.
In-Reply-To: <20160502151711.1a4c3793@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20160502151711.1a4c3793@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20160502101616.010ca572@pfortin.com>

On Mon, 2 May 2016 15:17:11 +0200 Erik P. Olsen wrote:

>Selecting Quick search opens an input field next to the text "Extended".
>An information button offers an explanation of how to set up a search.
>Suppose I would search for <string> in all mail bodies I should enter
>the following: b <string> and then what? No search button to hit so I
>assume I should hit ENTER. But the only thing that happens is that the
>search field turns yellow. Where are the results?
>
>I sure miss something but can't see what that is. The manual is not very
>informative so I need someone to please guide me in the right direction.
>

Such searches are generally done while in the folder you wish to search;
but, as you move move to other folders, the search will repeat -- until
you hit Clear. 

The positive results are those messages that are still visible in the
message list.  This is more akin to "grep -l ..." than "grep ..."


From claws-mail at fy3.co.uk  Mon May  2 16:25:37 2016
From: claws-mail at fy3.co.uk (Chris Hirst)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 15:25:37 +0100
Subject: [Users] How to use Ouick search.
In-Reply-To: <20160502151711.1a4c3793@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20160502151711.1a4c3793@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20160502152537.18013166@chris-HP>

Where are results?

In the usual window, the 'search' is really a 'filter' for the message list.


From rhutter at posteo.de  Mon May  2 16:54:27 2016
From: rhutter at posteo.de (Ralf Hutter)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 16:54:27 +0200
Subject: [Users] How to use Ouick search.
In-Reply-To: <20160502101616.010ca572@pfortin.com>
References: <20160502151711.1a4c3793@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160502101616.010ca572@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20160502165427.338f61c6@Trisdesk>


On Mon, 2 May 2016 10:16:16 -0400 Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2 May 2016 15:17:11 +0200 Erik P. Olsen wrote:
> 
> >Selecting Quick search opens an input field next to the text
> >"Extended". An information button offers an explanation of how to
> >set up a search. Suppose I would search for <string> in all mail
> >bodies I should enter the following: b <string> and then what? No
> >search button to hit so I assume I should hit ENTER. But the only
> >thing that happens is that the search field turns yellow. Where are
> >the results?
> >
> >I sure miss something but can't see what that is. The manual is not
> >very informative so I need someone to please guide me in the right
> >direction.
> >
> 
> Such searches are generally done while in the folder you wish to
> search; but, as you move move to other folders, the search will
> repeat -- until you hit Clear. 
> 
> The positive results are those messages that are still visible in the
> message list.  This is more akin to "grep -l ..." than "grep ..."
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

No, the search will not automatically be repeated when you change the
folder. That depends on your setting in the menu left to the searchbox
("Extended").
Ralf
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From epodata at gmail.com  Mon May  2 17:44:10 2016
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 17:44:10 +0200
Subject: [Users] How to use Ouick search.
In-Reply-To: <20160502101616.010ca572@pfortin.com>
References: <20160502151711.1a4c3793@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160502101616.010ca572@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20160502174410.2b74d672@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>

On 2016-05-02 at 10:16:16 Pierre Fortin wrote:

> On Mon, 2 May 2016 15:17:11 +0200 Erik P. Olsen wrote:
> 
> >Selecting Quick search opens an input field next to the text
> >"Extended". An information button offers an explanation of how to
> >set up a search. Suppose I would search for <string> in all mail
> >bodies I should enter the following: b <string> and then what? No
> >search button to hit so I assume I should hit ENTER. But the only
> >thing that happens is that the search field turns yellow. Where are
> >the results?
> >
> >I sure miss something but can't see what that is. The manual is not
> >very informative so I need someone to please guide me in the right
> >direction.
> >  
> 
> Such searches are generally done while in the folder you wish to
> search; but, as you move move to other folders, the search will
> repeat -- until you hit Clear. 
> 
> The positive results are those messages that are still visible in the
> message list.  This is more akin to "grep -l ..." than "grep ..."

OK. I select the folder in which mails from my wine supplier are found.
I know that many of the mails contain the word barollo so I set up
search for barollo by entering b barollo after the extended button and
hit ENTER. The search field becomes yellow and the message list is
empty. So again where are the results?

-- 
Erik



From pf at pfortin.com  Mon May  2 18:02:39 2016
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 12:02:39 -0400
Subject: [Users] How to use Ouick search.
In-Reply-To: <20160502165427.338f61c6@Trisdesk>
References: <20160502151711.1a4c3793@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160502101616.010ca572@pfortin.com>
 <20160502165427.338f61c6@Trisdesk>
Message-ID: <20160502120239.5cc9230a@pfortin.com>

On Mon, 2 May 2016 16:54:27 +0200 Ralf Hutter wrote:

>No, the search will not automatically be repeated when you change the
>folder. That depends on your setting in the menu left to the searchbox
>("Extended").
>Ralf

I have nothing 'left to the searchbox ("Extended")' and switching folders
DOES work for me...  I don't see what you are talking about...


From pf at pfortin.com  Mon May  2 18:04:10 2016
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 12:04:10 -0400
Subject: [Users] How to use Ouick search.
In-Reply-To: <20160502174410.2b74d672@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20160502151711.1a4c3793@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160502101616.010ca572@pfortin.com>
 <20160502174410.2b74d672@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20160502120410.167b660b@pfortin.com>

On Mon, 2 May 2016 17:44:10 +0200 Erik P. Olsen wrote:

>OK. I select the folder in which mails from my wine supplier are found.
>I know that many of the mails contain the word barollo so I set up
>search for barollo by entering b barollo after the extended button and
>hit ENTER. The search field becomes yellow and the message list is
>empty. So again where are the results?

Maybe the search term is not in the "message body"...

try:  B barollo


From rhutter at posteo.de  Mon May  2 18:05:56 2016
From: rhutter at posteo.de (Ralf Hutter)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 18:05:56 +0200
Subject: [Users] How to use Ouick search.
In-Reply-To: <20160502174410.2b74d672@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20160502151711.1a4c3793@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160502101616.010ca572@pfortin.com>
 <20160502174410.2b74d672@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20160502180556.03783bc4@Trisdesk>


On Mon, 2 May 2016 17:44:10 +0200 "Erik P. Olsen" <epodata at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 2016-05-02 at 10:16:16 Pierre Fortin wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 2 May 2016 15:17:11 +0200 Erik P. Olsen wrote:
> > 
> > >Selecting Quick search opens an input field next to the text
> > >"Extended". An information button offers an explanation of how to
> > >set up a search. Suppose I would search for <string> in all mail
> > >bodies I should enter the following: b <string> and then what? No
> > >search button to hit so I assume I should hit ENTER. But the only
> > >thing that happens is that the search field turns yellow. Where are
> > >the results?
> > >
> > >I sure miss something but can't see what that is. The manual is not
> > >very informative so I need someone to please guide me in the right
> > >direction.
> > >  
> > 
> > Such searches are generally done while in the folder you wish to
> > search; but, as you move move to other folders, the search will
> > repeat -- until you hit Clear. 
> > 
> > The positive results are those messages that are still visible in
> > the message list.  This is more akin to "grep -l ..." than
> > "grep ..."
> 
> OK. I select the folder in which mails from my wine supplier are
> found. I know that many of the mails contain the word barollo so I
> set up search for barollo by entering b barollo after the extended
> button and hit ENTER. The search field becomes yellow and the message
> list is empty. So again where are the results?
> 

That wine is called barolo, not barollo.
Does that help?
Cheers,
Ralf
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From pf at pfortin.com  Mon May  2 18:38:30 2016
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 12:38:30 -0400
Subject: [Users] How to use Ouick search.
In-Reply-To: <20160502165427.338f61c6@Trisdesk>
References: <20160502151711.1a4c3793@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160502101616.010ca572@pfortin.com>
 <20160502165427.338f61c6@Trisdesk>
Message-ID: <20160502123830.13968a05@pfortin.com>

On Mon, 2 May 2016 16:54:27 +0200 Ralf Hutter wrote:

>X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.23; i686-pc-linux-gnu)
                      ^^^^^
You should update -- probably the difference between our responses...

>No, the search will not automatically be repeated when you change the
>folder. That depends on your setting in the menu left to the searchbox
>("Extended").
>Ralf


From andrej at kacian.sk  Mon May  2 18:56:19 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 18:56:19 +0200
Subject: [Users] How to use Ouick search.
In-Reply-To: <20160502120239.5cc9230a@pfortin.com>
References: <20160502151711.1a4c3793@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160502101616.010ca572@pfortin.com>
 <20160502165427.338f61c6@Trisdesk>
 <20160502120239.5cc9230a@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20160502185619.295cb62e@hiker>

On Mon, 2 May 2016 12:02:39 -0400
Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:

> I have nothing 'left to the searchbox ("Extended")' and switching
> folders DOES work for me...  I don't see what you are talking about...

It's caused by the "Sticky" checkbox when you expand the quicksearch
type combobox.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From pf at pfortin.com  Mon May  2 19:11:30 2016
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 13:11:30 -0400
Subject: [Users] How to use Ouick search.
In-Reply-To: <20160502185619.295cb62e@hiker>
References: <20160502151711.1a4c3793@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160502101616.010ca572@pfortin.com>
 <20160502165427.338f61c6@Trisdesk>
 <20160502120239.5cc9230a@pfortin.com>
 <20160502185619.295cb62e@hiker>
Message-ID: <20160502131130.06a77676@pfortin.com>

On Mon, 2 May 2016 18:56:19 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote:

>On Mon, 2 May 2016 12:02:39 -0400
>Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:
>
>> I have nothing 'left to the searchbox ("Extended")' and switching
>> folders DOES work for me...  I don't see what you are talking
>> about...  
>
>It's caused by the "Sticky" checkbox when you expand the quicksearch
>type combobox.

...and definitely not 'left to the searchbox ("Extended")'  -- not always
easy to parse & grok incorrect/misleading statements (I'm not immune :)

I appreciate sticky when searching archives organized by year.

>Regards,
Cheers!


From epodata at gmail.com  Mon May  2 19:42:29 2016
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 19:42:29 +0200
Subject: [Users] How to use Ouick search.
In-Reply-To: <20160502180556.03783bc4@Trisdesk>
References: <20160502151711.1a4c3793@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160502101616.010ca572@pfortin.com>
 <20160502174410.2b74d672@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160502180556.03783bc4@Trisdesk>
Message-ID: <20160502194229.588db2ce@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>

On 2016-05-02 at 18:05:56 Ralf Hutter wrote:

> On Mon, 2 May 2016 17:44:10 +0200 "Erik P. Olsen" <epodata at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > On 2016-05-02 at 10:16:16 Pierre Fortin wrote:
> >   
> > > On Mon, 2 May 2016 15:17:11 +0200 Erik P. Olsen wrote:
> > >   
> > > >Selecting Quick search opens an input field next to the text
> > > >"Extended". An information button offers an explanation of how to
> > > >set up a search. Suppose I would search for <string> in all mail
> > > >bodies I should enter the following: b <string> and then what? No
> > > >search button to hit so I assume I should hit ENTER. But the only
> > > >thing that happens is that the search field turns yellow. Where
> > > >are the results?
> > > >
> > > >I sure miss something but can't see what that is. The manual is
> > > >not very informative so I need someone to please guide me in the
> > > >right direction.
> > > >    
> > > 
> > > Such searches are generally done while in the folder you wish to
> > > search; but, as you move move to other folders, the search will
> > > repeat -- until you hit Clear. 
> > > 
> > > The positive results are those messages that are still visible in
> > > the message list.  This is more akin to "grep -l ..." than
> > > "grep ..."  
> > 
> > OK. I select the folder in which mails from my wine supplier are
> > found. I know that many of the mails contain the word barollo so I
> > set up search for barollo by entering b barollo after the extended
> > button and hit ENTER. The search field becomes yellow and the
> > message list is empty. So again where are the results?
> >   
> 
> That wine is called barolo, not barollo.
> Does that help?
> Cheers,
> Ralf

Yes, I don't know why I misspelled barolo. But what really helped was 
B barolo instead of b barolo.

Thanks for all your help. Too bad you also have to spell correctly :-)

-- 
Erik


From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Tue May  3 08:46:58 2016
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 08:46:58 +0200
Subject: [Users] Confusing subjects/message views behaviour
Message-ID: <20160503084658.5dc7c720@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

Given the following scenario:

In the subjects window I click on a subject. The subject is
selected (highlighted) and the corresponding message is displayed.

Using the arrow keys, I move the highlight to another subject. This doesn't
change the message that is shown.

Now, some commands (view, mark, ...) operate on the highlighted message,
while other commands (reply, ...) operate on the message that is shown.

-- Johan
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From andrej at kacian.sk  Tue May  3 09:22:48 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 09:22:48 +0200
Subject: [Users] Confusing subjects/message views behaviour
In-Reply-To: <20160503084658.5dc7c720@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
References: <20160503084658.5dc7c720@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <20160503092248.4891480d@penny>

On Tue, 3 May 2016 08:46:58 +0200
Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl> wrote:

> Given the following scenario:
> 
> In the subjects window I click on a subject. The subject is
> selected (highlighted) and the corresponding message is displayed.
> 
> Using the arrow keys, I move the highlight to another subject. This doesn't
> change the message that is shown.
> 
> Now, some commands (view, mark, ...) operate on the highlighted message,
> while other commands (reply, ...) operate on the message that is shown.

You can change this behavior by changing the "Open message when selected"
setting in application preferences, on Display/Summaries page.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue May  3 09:33:33 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 03 May 2016 07:33:33 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3624] Key import isn't implemented in Windows.
In-Reply-To: <bug-3624-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3624-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3624-595-vAE4tCqeUP@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3624

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #6 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
This has now been implemented, see
<http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=c4a67908ff7646951679cd56b187c689f8f325ca>.

Done with bare winapi, since g_spawn* functions have a somewhat different use
case than what was needed here. Also, I trust winapi more than I trust glib to
not change the API in a year or so.

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From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Tue May  3 09:46:55 2016
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 09:46:55 +0200
Subject: [Users] Confusing subjects/message views behaviour
In-Reply-To: <20160503092248.4891480d@penny>
References: <20160503084658.5dc7c720@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20160503092248.4891480d@penny>
Message-ID: <20160503094655.3d963477@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

On Tue, 3 May 2016 09:22:48 +0200
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> > Now, some commands (view, mark, ...) operate on the highlighted message,
> > while other commands (reply, ...) operate on the message that is
> > shown.  
> 
> You can change this behavior by changing the "Open message when selected"
> setting in application preferences, on Display/Summaries page.

Thanks, I'll give this a try.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue May  3 10:49:27 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 03 May 2016 08:49:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3624] Key import isn't implemented in Windows.
In-Reply-To: <bug-3624-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3624-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3624-595-9B2ACwlyUK@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3624

--- Comment #7 from Gerard Seibert <gerard.seibert at gmail.com> ---
(In reply to comment #6)
> This has now been implemented, see
> <http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;
> h=c4a67908ff7646951679cd56b187c689f8f325ca>.
> 
> Done with bare winapi, since g_spawn* functions have a somewhat different
> use case than what was needed here. Also, I trust winapi more than I trust
> glib to not change the API in a year or so.

Great news; thank you. Do you have any idea when a new version of claws-mail
will be released? There have been at least two major changes since it was last
released?

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From ricardo at mones.org  Tue May  3 12:47:06 2016
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 12:47:06 +0200
Subject: [Users] [OT] Re: Screen flicker issue with claws mail on i3+compton
In-Reply-To: <CA+htnQ_M5oRrWKAkBYmkA+1ESxn85VYOYjW88YwyC=AGzN7iqQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+htnQ_M5oRrWKAkBYmkA+1ESxn85VYOYjW88YwyC=AGzN7iqQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20160503104706.GI7079@busgosu.mones.org>

On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 03:59:01PM +0530, Brahm Prakash Mishra wrote:
> I need to start compton on i3 for my chromium to display correctly (it
> gives me tearing issues otherwise). If I do that however, claws-mail starts
> flickering. If I stop compton, it works properly again.

Given what the FAQ says I doubt that Claws Mail is the only affected…

> Could someone help me debug the issue? Where can I look for the cause of
> this happening?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=compton+faq

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From ricardo at mones.org  Tue May  3 12:51:50 2016
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 12:51:50 +0200
Subject: [Users] Subtle Quick Search Issue
In-Reply-To: <20160501170014.3cc66d29@jhegaala.localdomain>
References: <20160501170014.3cc66d29@jhegaala.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20160503105150.GJ7079@busgosu.mones.org>

On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 05:00:14PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
[…]
> Also a typo in the on-line documentation:
> 
> /cilicking/clicking/
> 
> http://www.claws-mail.org/documentation.php?section=general

Fixed, thanks!
-- 
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  comparisons from figures, and victories from comparisons. 
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From nvx2004 at hotmail.com  Tue May  3 18:32:19 2016
From: nvx2004 at hotmail.com (nvx)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 18:32:19 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Enhancement] Clear selection when IMAP message is no
 longer available
Message-ID: <BLU436-SMTP2012C90E7DC9C4F64440D60A97A0@phx.gbl>

I often access my IMAP mail account via multiple devices at the same
time (office computer, mobile phone, ...). As such, it often happens to
me that when I keep the Inbox folder selected, new messages are
automatically previewed by Claws Mail and thus marked as read.

My setup:
- Default selection: last opened message, none
- View message on selection: if preview pane is visible
- Open Inbox when new messages are available: disabled
- Preview pane visible: yes
- Mark message as read after: 0 seconds

Therefore: when a message is selected in the Inbox and during a periodic
mail check Claws Mail finds that this message is no longer
available (e.g. because it has been deleted/moved via another device)
but new message(s) are available, the original selection is retained
and hence one of the new messages is automatically selected and
previewed. This, consequently, marks the message as read.

What I would suggest here is to clear the selection if Claws Mail finds
during mail check that the selected message is no longer
available. This would then prevent auto-selecting any of the new
messages, previewing them, and, ultimately, none of them would be
marked as read.

Steps to reproduce:
1. Set up an IMAP account & enable preview pane. Set "View message on
selection" to "If preview pane is visible" and "Mark message as read
after" to "0 seconds".
2. Clear all messages from Inbox & keep Inbox opened.
3. Send one message to the respective account and wait until it has
been received by Claws Mail. Select the message to preview it.
4. Disable periodic mail check (just to make sure that steps 5 & 6 are
carried out before the next mail check).
5. Delete the IMAP message using another client (mobile phone/...).
6. Send a second message to the respective account.
7. Enable periodic mail check in Claws Mail and wait until mail is
synced.
8. When Claws Mail checks the IMAP Inbox, it deletes the first message
which is no longer available and downloads the second, new message.
However, because previously the first message was selected, the new
(second) message becomes immediately selected as well and hence marked
as read.

OS & application info:
Ubuntu 16.04 x64
Claws mail 3.13.2


From ricardo at mones.org  Wed May  4 09:39:36 2016
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 09:39:36 +0200
Subject: [Users] [OT] Re: Screen flicker issue with claws mail on
 i3+compton
In-Reply-To: <CA+htnQ-ORDN4t_S5L=oxuJRk+zgY7un9YibqHs6jNTBx1EJKnQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+htnQ_M5oRrWKAkBYmkA+1ESxn85VYOYjW88YwyC=AGzN7iqQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20160503104706.GI7079@busgosu.mones.org>
 <CA+htnQ-ORDN4t_S5L=oxuJRk+zgY7un9YibqHs6jNTBx1EJKnQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20160504073936.GK7079@busgosu.mones.org>

On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 10:07:54PM +0530, Brahm Prakash Mishra wrote:
> Thanks, your suggestion helped me single in on the issue. It is the
> 'unredir' option in compton config. Commenting it out or whitelisting
> claws-mail solves the problem

You're welcome. If you found a solution the usual is to answer to the
public list, so others can find the answer in the future, even if it's
off-topic ;-)

regards,

> On May 3, 2016 4:17 PM, "Ricardo Mones" <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 03:59:01PM +0530, Brahm Prakash Mishra wrote:
> > > I need to start compton on i3 for my chromium to display correctly (it
> > > gives me tearing issues otherwise). If I do that however, claws-mail
> > starts
> > > flickering. If I stop compton, it works properly again.
> >
> > Given what the FAQ says I doubt that Claws Mail is the only affected…
> >
> > > Could someone help me debug the issue? Where can I look for the cause of
> > > this happening?
> >
> > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=compton+faq
> >
> > --
> >   Ricardo Mones
> >   ~
> >   Never send a human to do a machine's job.               Agent Smith
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Users mailing list
> > Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
> >
> >

-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  The three principal virtues of a programmer are Laziness, 
  Impatience, and Hubris.                                    man perl

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From bpmishra92 at gmail.com  Wed May  4 10:01:28 2016
From: bpmishra92 at gmail.com (Brahm Prakash Mishra)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 13:31:28 +0530
Subject: [Users] [OT] Re: Screen flicker issue with claws mail on
	i3+compton
In-Reply-To: <20160504073936.GK7079@busgosu.mones.org>
References: <CA+htnQ_M5oRrWKAkBYmkA+1ESxn85VYOYjW88YwyC=AGzN7iqQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20160503104706.GI7079@busgosu.mones.org>
 <CA+htnQ-ORDN4t_S5L=oxuJRk+zgY7un9YibqHs6jNTBx1EJKnQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20160504073936.GK7079@busgosu.mones.org>
Message-ID: <CA+htnQ-7CRpkJp75zOq0dbToGDNYTeyfiNbBMwPOerk=9RHLNg@mail.gmail.com>

I will do accordingly in future.

I'll leave a refined answer here for fixing claws-mail flicker with
compton.

The issue occurs because Compton by default tries to redirect output from
full screen windows to X. This is done to increase frame-rate on
applications like games which might have bad performance because of an
intervening compositor layer. Some applications can cause this redirection
attempt to be visible. If you have an auto-hiding status bar at the bottom,
it will flicker each time the bar shows or hides itself (as in my setup).
These steps will fix the issue -

1. Locate compton.conf file (its in */etc/**xdg**/* on my system). Then,
either -

2. Comment out the line '*unredir-if-possible** = true;' *or

3. Add *unredir-**if-**possible-exclude** = [ "class_g = **'Claws-mail**'**
"];*     or -

4. Add *unredir-**if-**possible-delay** = 500;* This adds a 500 ms delay
between the redirection and stops in the flicker in *nearly* all use cases.

Thanks for all the help.

Cheers,
Brahm
On May 4, 2016 1:10 PM, "Ricardo Mones" <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:

> On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 10:07:54PM +0530, Brahm Prakash Mishra wrote:
> > Thanks, your suggestion helped me single in on the issue. It is the
> > 'unredir' option in compton config. Commenting it out or whitelisting
> > claws-mail solves the problem
>
> You're welcome. If you found a solution the usual is to answer to the
> public list, so others can find the answer in the future, even if it's
> off-topic ;-)
>
> regards,
>
> > On May 3, 2016 4:17 PM, "Ricardo Mones" <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 03:59:01PM +0530, Brahm Prakash Mishra wrote:
> > > > I need to start compton on i3 for my chromium to display correctly
> (it
> > > > gives me tearing issues otherwise). If I do that however, claws-mail
> > > starts
> > > > flickering. If I stop compton, it works properly again.
> > >
> > > Given what the FAQ says I doubt that Claws Mail is the only affected…
> > >
> > > > Could someone help me debug the issue? Where can I look for the
> cause of
> > > > this happening?
> > >
> > > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=compton+faq
> > >
> > > --
> > >   Ricardo Mones
> > >   ~
> > >   Never send a human to do a machine's job.               Agent Smith
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Users mailing list
> > > Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> > > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
> > >
> > >
>
> --
>   Ricardo Mones
>   ~
>   The three principal virtues of a programmer are Laziness,
>   Impatience, and Hubris.                                    man perl
>
>
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From ricardo at mones.org  Wed May  4 10:11:13 2016
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 10:11:13 +0200
Subject: [Users] [OT] Re: Screen flicker issue with claws mail on
 i3+compton
In-Reply-To: <CA+htnQ-7CRpkJp75zOq0dbToGDNYTeyfiNbBMwPOerk=9RHLNg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+htnQ_M5oRrWKAkBYmkA+1ESxn85VYOYjW88YwyC=AGzN7iqQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20160503104706.GI7079@busgosu.mones.org>
 <CA+htnQ-ORDN4t_S5L=oxuJRk+zgY7un9YibqHs6jNTBx1EJKnQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20160504073936.GK7079@busgosu.mones.org>
 <CA+htnQ-7CRpkJp75zOq0dbToGDNYTeyfiNbBMwPOerk=9RHLNg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20160504081113.GL7079@busgosu.mones.org>

On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 01:31:28PM +0530, Brahm Prakash Mishra wrote:
> I will do accordingly in future.
> 
> I'll leave a refined answer here for fixing claws-mail flicker with
> compton.

Excellent! thanks!
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed May  4 18:42:08 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 16:42:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3353] unify date/time stamping of all console/log
	messages
In-Reply-To: <bug-3353-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3353-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3353-595-lW2DYTNCVh@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3353

--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
Created attachment 1644
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1644&action=edit
timestamp debug messages

Not sure if this is all what you wanted in this request, but it's a start ;-)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu May  5 10:09:45 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 05 May 2016 08:09:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3353] unify date/time stamping of all console/log
	messages
In-Reply-To: <bug-3353-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3353-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3353-595-SHHwhjJBZR@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3353

--- Comment #2 from Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> ---
(In reply to comment #1)

> Not sure if this is all what you wanted in this request, but it's a start ;-)

Thanks for the 'start' :) -- really appreciated!
Compiled latest git + these mods; but not yet seeing what I was hoping for...
Digging into the code (I can read it somewhat; but haven't written C in over 40
years), it appears the code I'm hoping to see get time stamps is in
src/common/log.h where there are refs to G_GNUC_PRINTF (also in
src/common/utils.h, src/privacy.h, and possibly src/alertpanel.h &
src/statusbar.h)  Found
https://developer.gnome.org/glib/stable/glib-Miscellaneous-Macros.html#G-GNUC-PRINTF:CAPS
but I don't yet see how to change 
  void log_* (LogInstance instance, const gchar *format, ...) G_GNUC_PRINTF(2,
3);
to add time stamps...  Guessing change to struct _LogText needed; but... :)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu May  5 13:40:05 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 05 May 2016 11:40:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3353] unify date/time stamping of all console/log
	messages
In-Reply-To: <bug-3353-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3353-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3353-595-7WyA8aK5q0@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3353

--- Comment #3 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
I see, you were probably referring to messages in internal log than in console.

This patch only timestamps --debug log (the "console" part) to help debugging. 

Anyway, this is not going to be pushed, so consider yourself at the starting
point again ;-)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu May  5 20:15:12 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 05 May 2016 18:15:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3644] New: Fancy renders blank page for most html
 emails when using shared-mime-info 1.6
Message-ID: <bug-3644-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3644

            Bug ID: 3644
           Summary: Fancy renders blank page for most html emails when
                    using shared-mime-info 1.6
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.13.2
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: major
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Fancy
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: gilbertw1 at gmail.com

Using shared-mime-info 1.6 on my system (Arch Linux -
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/shared-mime-info/) results in a
majority of emails rendering blank pages when viewing in html. Downgrading to
shared-mime-info 1.5 resolves the issue completely with all emails displaying
properly.

I've not yet discovered a correlation between the emails that display correctly
and the ones that result in blank screens. I will report back if I am able to
do so.

Additionally, here is a link to the forum thread with others experiencing the
same issue:

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=211484

Thank You.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu May  5 22:04:33 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 05 May 2016 20:04:33 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3644] Fancy renders blank page for most html emails
 when using shared-mime-info 1.6
In-Reply-To: <bug-3644-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3644-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3644-595-8YMZQbYtLn@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3644

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Using share-mime-info 1.6 on a fedora system and every html mail displays fine
with the Fancy plugin. Looks like some other problem on arch.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu May  5 22:38:18 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 05 May 2016 20:38:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3644] Fancy renders blank page for most html emails
 when using shared-mime-info 1.6
In-Reply-To: <bug-3644-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3644-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3644-595-VzyEVxEl1o@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3644

--- Comment #2 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Bryan, you probably should look in the direction of webkit, which is what the
Fancy plugin uses, rather than Claws Mail.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri May  6 00:30:30 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 05 May 2016 22:30:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3644] Fancy renders blank page for most html emails
 when using shared-mime-info 1.6
In-Reply-To: <bug-3644-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3644-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3644-595-635zyDEfBy@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3644

--- Comment #3 from Bryan Gilbert <gilbertw1 at gmail.com> ---
Thanks for the pointer and for taking the time to look at the issue!

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You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.


From clifflaine at europe.com  Sat May  7 09:43:33 2016
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 08:43:33 +0100
Subject: [Users] Lost toolbar
Message-ID: <20160507084333.1ccb7372@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

Morning all

I was typing an email just now and I've accidentally pressed something
which has made the toolbar disappear in the main window. Does anyone
know how I could get it back?

Thanks

Cliff


From bpmishra92 at gmail.com  Sat May  7 09:48:02 2016
From: bpmishra92 at gmail.com (Brahm Prakash Mishra)
Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 13:18:02 +0530
Subject: [Users] Lost toolbar
In-Reply-To: <20160507084333.1ccb7372@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20160507084333.1ccb7372@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <CA+htnQ9Yfvr2RkmyfAEX1r4WOw-K3j4mmeOJUVraTR4UoFJf=Q@mail.gmail.com>

Could you try F12?
On May 7, 2016 1:14 PM, "Cliff Laine" <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote:

> Morning all
>
> I was typing an email just now and I've accidentally pressed something
> which has made the toolbar disappear in the main window. Does anyone
> know how I could get it back?
>
> Thanks
>
> Cliff
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
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From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Sat May  7 09:48:22 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 09:48:22 +0200
Subject: [Users] Lost toolbar
In-Reply-To: <20160507084333.1ccb7372@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20160507084333.1ccb7372@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20160507094822.647f9721@utnubu>

On Sat, 7 May 2016 08:43:33 +0100, Cliff Laine wrote:
>I was typing an email just now and I've accidentally pressed something
>which has made the toolbar disappear in the main window. Does anyone
>know how I could get it back?

View > Show or hide > Toolbar > ...

Assumed you're using default shortcuts and you lost the menu bar, push
F12.





From clifflaine at europe.com  Sat May  7 10:03:41 2016
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 09:03:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] Lost toolbar
In-Reply-To: <20160507094822.647f9721@utnubu>
References: <20160507084333.1ccb7372@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20160507094822.647f9721@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160507090341.0e6e74f4@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

On Sat, 7 May 2016 09:48:22 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <silver.bullet at zoho.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 7 May 2016 08:43:33 +0100, Cliff Laine wrote:
> >I was typing an email just now and I've accidentally pressed
> >something which has made the toolbar disappear in the main window.
> >Does anyone know how I could get it back?
> 
> View > Show or hide > Toolbar > ...
> 
> Assumed you're using default shortcuts and you lost the menu bar, push
> F12.
> 

Great thank you Ralf! 

Moral of the story: don't try to type emails
from a strange position whilst still in bed :) 

Cliff


From andrej at kacian.sk  Sat May  7 10:47:10 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 10:47:10 +0200
Subject: [Users] Lost toolbar
In-Reply-To: <20160507090341.0e6e74f4@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20160507084333.1ccb7372@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20160507094822.647f9721@utnubu>
 <20160507090341.0e6e74f4@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20160507104710.587a7fdc@penny>

On Sat, 7 May 2016 09:03:41 +0100
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote:

> Moral of the story: don't try to type emails
> from a strange position whilst still in bed :) 

We're changing the default shortcut for this to Ctrl+F12, so in the
future, you'll need much stranger position (or stranger bed?) to
accidentally trigger it. :)

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From ken_11 at btinternet.com  Sun May  8 11:54:17 2016
From: ken_11 at btinternet.com (Ken Parkes)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 10:54:17 +0100
Subject: [Users] Full headers
Message-ID: <20160508105417.2c6e66e6@AMDdesktop>


Since switching to Claws about two years ago I haven't had any cause to
want to check full headers to messages. Today I have that need but
having been through the Configuration, Tools, etc and the manual,
I'm lost. Can someone help please?

TIA Ken


From mailinglists at gusnan.se  Sun May  8 12:00:01 2016
From: mailinglists at gusnan.se (Andreas Ronnquist)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 12:00:01 +0200
Subject: [Users] Full headers
In-Reply-To: <20160508105417.2c6e66e6@AMDdesktop>
References: <20160508105417.2c6e66e6@AMDdesktop>
Message-ID: <20160508120001.476428a8@debian-workstation.lan>

> Since switching to Claws about two years ago I haven't had any cause
> to want to check full headers to messages. Today I have that need but
> having been through the Configuration, Tools, etc and the manual,
> I'm lost. Can someone help please?
> 
> TIA Ken

In the menu:

View -> Show all headers

Defaults to the keybinding Ctrl+H.

-- Andreas Rönnquist
mailinglists at gusnan.se



From h.m.brand at xs4all.nl  Sun May  8 12:01:40 2016
From: h.m.brand at xs4all.nl (H.Merijn Brand)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 12:01:40 +0200
Subject: [Users] Full headers
In-Reply-To: <20160508105417.2c6e66e6@AMDdesktop>
References: <20160508105417.2c6e66e6@AMDdesktop>
Message-ID: <20160508120140.7b9c2be6@pc09.procura.nl>

On Sun, 8 May 2016 10:54:17 +0100, Ken Parkes <ken_11 at btinternet.com>
wrote:

> Since switching to Claws about two years ago I haven't had any cause to
> want to check full headers to messages. Today I have that need but
> having been through the Configuration, Tools, etc and the manual,
> I'm lost. Can someone help please?

Control-H ?

-- 
H.Merijn Brand  http://tux.nl   Perl Monger  http://amsterdam.pm.org/
using perl5.00307 .. 5.23   porting perl5 on HP-UX, AIX, and openSUSE
http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/        http://www.test-smoke.org/
http://qa.perl.org   http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/
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From emilyj at hiwaay.net  Sun May  8 12:03:06 2016
From: emilyj at hiwaay.net (Emily Jackson)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 05:03:06 -0500
Subject: [Users] Full headers
In-Reply-To: <20160508105417.2c6e66e6@AMDdesktop>
References: <20160508105417.2c6e66e6@AMDdesktop>
Message-ID: <20160508050306.00006869@hiwaay.net>

On Sun, 8 May 2016 10:54:17 +0100
Ken Parkes <ken_11 at btinternet.com> wrote:

> Since switching to Claws about two years ago I haven't had any cause
> to want to check full headers to messages. Today I have that need but
> having been through the Configuration, Tools, etc and the manual,
> I'm lost. Can someone help please?

From the View menu select ¨Show All Headers.¨

HTH,

Emily


From linux at slavino.sk  Sun May  8 12:03:23 2016
From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 12:03:23 +0200
Subject: [Users] Full headers
In-Reply-To: <20160508105417.2c6e66e6@AMDdesktop>
References: <20160508105417.2c6e66e6@AMDdesktop>
Message-ID: <20160508120323.7a0a6095@bonifac.skk>

Ahoj,

Dňa Sun, 8 May 2016 10:54:17 +0100 Ken Parkes <ken_11 at btinternet.com>
napísal:

> 
> Since switching to Claws about two years ago I haven't had any cause
> to want to check full headers to messages. Today I have that need but
> having been through the Configuration, Tools, etc and the manual,
> I'm lost. Can someone help please?

do you tried the Ctrl+H?

-- 
Slavko
http://slavino.sk
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From ken_11 at btinternet.com  Sun May  8 12:07:08 2016
From: ken_11 at btinternet.com (Ken Parkes)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 11:07:08 +0100
Subject: [Users] Full headers
In-Reply-To: <20160508105417.2c6e66e6@AMDdesktop>
References: <20160508105417.2c6e66e6@AMDdesktop>
Message-ID: <20160508110708.2fe4b81f@AMDdesktop>

On Sun, 8 May 2016 10:54:17 +0100
Ken Parkes <ken_11 at btinternet.com> wrote:

> 
> Since switching to Claws about two years ago I haven't had any cause
> to want to check full headers to messages. Today I have that need but
> having been through the Configuration, Tools, etc and the manual,
> I'm lost. Can someone help please?
>

Ah! Found it hidden away in text options.  Sorry to trouble you all.

Ken


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Sun May  8 12:39:52 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 12:39:52 +0200
Subject: [Users] Full headers
In-Reply-To: <20160508120323.7a0a6095@bonifac.skk>
References: <20160508105417.2c6e66e6@AMDdesktop>
 <20160508120323.7a0a6095@bonifac.skk>
Message-ID: <20160508123952.5b7ab013@utnubu>

On Sun, 8 May 2016 12:03:23 +0200, Slavko wrote:
>Ctrl+H

"View > Message Source" (default shortcut Ctrl+U) could be helpful too.



From gerry.gazules at gmail.com  Sun May  8 12:47:16 2016
From: gerry.gazules at gmail.com (G.H.)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 12:47:16 +0200
Subject: [Users] Users Digest, Vol 57, Issue 10
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1462701602.2685.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
References: <mailman.5.1462701602.2685.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
Message-ID: <572F1934.4080208@gmail.com>

Open message to investigate
Select <View> in the toolbar
Select <Show All Headers> from the drop-down menu.
et voila!

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> Since switching to Claws about two years ago I haven't had any cause to
> want to check full headers to messages. Today I have that need but
> having been through the Configuration, Tools, etc and the manual,
> I'm lost. Can someone help please?
>
> TIA Ken
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From nick at linicks.net  Sun May  8 15:19:37 2016
From: nick at linicks.net (Nick Warne)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 14:19:37 +0100
Subject: [Users] Learn as spam button
Message-ID: <20160508141937.28d04fde@palantirII.linicks.net>


Hi all,

Used to use claws-mail years ago, and for some reason when updating
machines a few years back, moved on to thunderbird - until the latest
update makes it take about 50 seconds to even load!

So back to claws - brilliant, so fast and it just does what you need it
to do (why did I ever drop it?) - thanks everyone!

And, a small hack (!).  I found the 'Learn Spam' toolbar button menu

Learn as Ham
Learn as Spam

items a bit close together, so one could easily hit the wrong one by
mistake.  The attached patch just adds two new lines so they are
separated a bit more and easier/safer to hit with the mouse.

Thanks,

Nick
-- 
Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward?  That's the trouble with
time travel, you never can tell."
		-- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun May  8 15:23:03 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 14:23:03 +0100
Subject: [Users] Learn as spam button
In-Reply-To: <20160508141937.28d04fde@palantirII.linicks.net>
References: <20160508141937.28d04fde@palantirII.linicks.net>
Message-ID: <20160508142303.630200cc@kujata>

On Sun, 8 May 2016 14:19:37 +0100
Nick Warne <nick at linicks.net> wrote: 

> items a bit close together, so one could easily hit the wrong one by
> mistake.  The attached patch just adds two new lines so they are
> separated a bit more and easier/safer to hit with the mouse.

If you go to /Configuration/Preferences/Toolbars/Main Window, you can
add a separator between them.

with regards

Paul


From nick at linicks.net  Sun May  8 15:30:21 2016
From: nick at linicks.net (Nick Warne)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 14:30:21 +0100
Subject: [Users] Learn as spam button
In-Reply-To: <20160508142303.630200cc@kujata>
References: <20160508141937.28d04fde@palantirII.linicks.net>
 <20160508142303.630200cc@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160508143021.4b50d895@palantirII.linicks.net>

On Sun, 8 May 2016 14:23:03 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 8 May 2016 14:19:37 +0100
> Nick Warne <nick at linicks.net> wrote: 
> 
> > items a bit close together, so one could easily hit the wrong one by
> > mistake.  The attached patch just adds two new lines so they are
> > separated a bit more and easier/safer to hit with the mouse.  
> 
> If you go to /Configuration/Preferences/Toolbars/Main Window, you can
> add a separator between them.

No, I didn't mean the icons spacing - I meant the drop down menu
spacing when you click the little arrow next to the 'Learn Spam' button
icon.

Nick
-- 
Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward?  That's the trouble with
time travel, you never can tell."
		-- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Sun May  8 15:39:56 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 15:39:56 +0200
Subject: [Users] Learn as spam button
In-Reply-To: <20160508142303.630200cc@kujata>
References: <20160508141937.28d04fde@palantirII.linicks.net>
 <20160508142303.630200cc@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160508153956.6908ac9f@utnubu>

I prefer if only one button is shown, "Spam" or "Ham", it makes no sense
to show both side by side.
Assumed I marked a message that isn't marked as "Spam", it
automatically displays "Spam" only [see attached screenshot], if a mail
that already is marked as "Spam" is selected, it automatically shows a
"heart" icon and the text "Ham".
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From nick at linicks.net  Sun May  8 16:14:59 2016
From: nick at linicks.net (Nick Warne)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 15:14:59 +0100
Subject: [Users] Learn as spam button
In-Reply-To: <20160508153956.6908ac9f@utnubu>
References: <20160508141937.28d04fde@palantirII.linicks.net>
 <20160508142303.630200cc@kujata> <20160508153956.6908ac9f@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160508151459.798c0973@palantirII.linicks.net>

On Sun, 8 May 2016 15:39:56 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <silver.bullet at zoho.com> wrote:

> I prefer if only one button is shown, "Spam" or "Ham", it makes no
> sense to show both side by side.
> Assumed I marked a message that isn't marked as "Spam", it
> automatically displays "Spam" only [see attached screenshot], if a
> mail that already is marked as "Spam" is selected, it automatically
> shows a "heart" icon and the text "Ham".

Sorry, I think you all misunderstand me.

There is only one 'Learn Spam' icon, and it is set at default as 'Learn
as Spam' - but the little arrow on the right of that displays a menu so
you can set mail as ham or spam.

The little hack I done just makes the menu items further apart so it
reduces the chance of hitting the wrong one.

Nick
-- 
Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward?  That's the trouble with
time travel, you never can tell."
		-- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun May  8 16:18:06 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 15:18:06 +0100
Subject: [Users] Learn as spam button
In-Reply-To: <20160508143021.4b50d895@palantirII.linicks.net>
References: <20160508141937.28d04fde@palantirII.linicks.net>
 <20160508142303.630200cc@kujata>
 <20160508143021.4b50d895@palantirII.linicks.net>
Message-ID: <20160508151806.7ef20699@kujata>

On Sun, 8 May 2016 14:30:21 +0100
Nick Warne <nick at linicks.net> wrote: 

> No, I didn't mean the icons spacing - I meant the drop down menu
> spacing when you click the little arrow next to the 'Learn Spam'
> button icon.

Of course, yes. If I'd waited just a few seconds longer to reply...
Anyway, that is the job of your GTK theme.

with regards

Paul


From nick at linicks.net  Sun May  8 16:35:24 2016
From: nick at linicks.net (Nick Warne)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 15:35:24 +0100
Subject: [Users] Learn as spam button
In-Reply-To: <20160508141937.28d04fde@palantirII.linicks.net>
References: <20160508141937.28d04fde@palantirII.linicks.net>
Message-ID: <20160508153524.4c9cacca@palantirII.linicks.net>

On Sun, 8 May 2016 14:19:37 +0100
Nick Warne <nick at linicks.net> wrote:
 
> And, a small hack (!).  I found the 'Learn Spam' toolbar button menu
> 
> Learn as Ham
> Learn as Spam
> 
> items a bit close together, so one could easily hit the wrong one by
> mistake.  The attached patch just adds two new lines so they are
> separated a bit more and easier/safer to hit with the mouse.

Actually, a new patch/hack makes it better - the menu now looks like:

Learn as Spam
--
Learn as Ham

The middle option doesn't do anything, and the two options are now
'mouse click' safe.

Nick
-- 
Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward?  That's the trouble with
time travel, you never can tell."
		-- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"
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From nvx2004 at hotmail.com  Tue May 10 09:09:22 2016
From: nvx2004 at hotmail.com (nvx .)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 07:09:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] Actions: move entire thread
Message-ID: <DUB120-W4037AF19FC1C68EFE571D7A9710@phx.gbl>

Moving the selected message to a specific folder via a user action can
simply be done via "%as{move FOLDER}". Can I do the same thing
also for entire threads? If so, what operator do I use instead of "%as"?

Additionally, is there a _complete_ list of the available "%" operators
somewhere? I tried to find it but failed -- none of the partial lists I
encountered mentioned even the "%as". :(

Thanks. 		 	   		  

From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue May 10 10:38:30 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 09:38:30 +0100
Subject: [Users] Actions: move entire thread
In-Reply-To: <DUB120-W4037AF19FC1C68EFE571D7A9710@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB120-W4037AF19FC1C68EFE571D7A9710@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20160510093830.6cc11336@kujata>

On Tue, 10 May 2016 07:09:22 +0000
"nvx ." <nvx2004 at hotmail.com> wrote: 

> Moving the selected message to a specific folder via a user action
> can simply be done via "%as{move FOLDER}". Can I do the same thing
> also for entire threads? 

Yes, just select the thread first.

> If so, what operator do I use instead of "%as"?

It's the same:

 %as{} - apply filtering actions between {} to selected messages

> Additionally, is there a _complete_ list of the available "%"
> operators somewhere? I tried to find it but failed -- none of the
> partial lists I encountered mentioned even the "%as". :(

Go to /Configuration/Actions and click the 'Information' button.
(This is where "%as" is mentioned.)

with regards

Paul


From nvx2004 at hotmail.com  Tue May 10 10:51:09 2016
From: nvx2004 at hotmail.com (nvx .)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 08:51:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] Actions: move entire thread
In-Reply-To: <20160510093830.6cc11336@kujata>
References: <DUB120-W4037AF19FC1C68EFE571D7A9710@phx.gbl>,
 <20160510093830.6cc11336@kujata>
Message-ID: <DUB120-W1948F8E26DB74DB1CE507EA9710@phx.gbl>

----------------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 09:38:30 +0100
> From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk
> To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] Actions: move entire thread
>
> On Tue, 10 May 2016 07:09:22 +0000
> "nvx ." <nvx2004 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Moving the selected message to a specific folder via a user action
>> can simply be done via "%as{move FOLDER}". Can I do the same thing
>> also for entire threads?
>
> Yes, just select the thread first.

What I meant (and probably should have stated in a clearer manner) is that the entire thread would be moved to the specified folder no matter whether the first message in the thread is selected, the last one, some message in the "middle" of the thread, or even multiple messages therein. (As of now, if I do not select all the messages in the thread manually then those not selected will not be moved.)

Simply said, I am asking for the same behaviour as in Gmail.

>> If so, what operator do I use instead of "%as"?
>
> It's the same:
>
> %as{} - apply filtering actions between {} to selected messages
>
>> Additionally, is there a _complete_ list of the available "%"
>> operators somewhere? I tried to find it but failed -- none of the
>> partial lists I encountered mentioned even the "%as". :(
>
> Go to /Configuration/Actions and click the 'Information' button.
> (This is where "%as" is mentioned.)

Oh, I must be blind. Thanks!

> with regards
>
> Paul
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
 		 	   		  

From colin at colino.net  Tue May 10 11:13:37 2016
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 11:13:37 +0200
Subject: [Users] Actions: move entire thread
In-Reply-To: <DUB120-W1948F8E26DB74DB1CE507EA9710@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB120-W4037AF19FC1C68EFE571D7A9710@phx.gbl>
 <20160510093830.6cc11336@kujata>
 <DUB120-W1948F8E26DB74DB1CE507EA9710@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20160510111337.0e859f44@colin.i-run.lau>

On Tue, 10 May 2016 08:51:09 +0000, "nvx ." <nvx2004 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> What I meant (and probably should have stated in a clearer manner) is
> that the entire thread would be moved to the specified folder no
> matter whether the first message in the thread is selected, the last
> one, some message in the "middle" of the thread, or even multiple
> messages therein. (As of now, if I do not select all the messages in
> the thread manually then those not selected will not be moved.)

You can't directly apply actions to whole threads, but there's a
"Select thread" menu entry in the "Edit" menu, that you can assign a
shortcut to, making what you want a two keyboard shortcuts operation.

HTH,
-- 
Colin


From nvx2004 at hotmail.com  Tue May 10 11:44:58 2016
From: nvx2004 at hotmail.com (nvx .)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 09:44:58 +0000
Subject: [Users] Actions: move entire thread
In-Reply-To: <20160510111337.0e859f44@colin.i-run.lau>
References: <DUB120-W4037AF19FC1C68EFE571D7A9710@phx.gbl>,
 <20160510093830.6cc11336@kujata>,
 <DUB120-W1948F8E26DB74DB1CE507EA9710@phx.gbl>,
 <20160510111337.0e859f44@colin.i-run.lau>
Message-ID: <DUB120-W43CDF7BF54391A45D9A96A9710@phx.gbl>

----------------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 11:13:37 +0200
> From: colin at colino.net
> To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] Actions: move entire thread
>
> On Tue, 10 May 2016 08:51:09 +0000, "nvx ." <nvx2004 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What I meant (and probably should have stated in a clearer manner) is
>> that the entire thread would be moved to the specified folder no
>> matter whether the first message in the thread is selected, the last
>> one, some message in the "middle" of the thread, or even multiple
>> messages therein. (As of now, if I do not select all the messages in
>> the thread manually then those not selected will not be moved.)
>
> You can't directly apply actions to whole threads, but there's a
> "Select thread" menu entry in the "Edit" menu, that you can assign a
> shortcut to, making what you want a two keyboard shortcuts operation.

Great, thank you.

Still, I am unable to assign Ctrl + Shift + A (or any other shortcut for that matter) to the respective menu item. I have enabled the shortcut customization in Preferences but every time I place mouse cursor over the menu item and press the key combination the menu simply disappears and the shortcut is not assigned. Any hints as to what might be the cause?

Thanks 		 	   		  

From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue May 10 11:55:00 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 10:55:00 +0100
Subject: [Users] Actions: move entire thread
In-Reply-To: <DUB120-W43CDF7BF54391A45D9A96A9710@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB120-W4037AF19FC1C68EFE571D7A9710@phx.gbl>
 <20160510093830.6cc11336@kujata>
 <DUB120-W1948F8E26DB74DB1CE507EA9710@phx.gbl>
 <20160510111337.0e859f44@colin.i-run.lau>
 <DUB120-W43CDF7BF54391A45D9A96A9710@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20160510105500.6cf94e53@kujata>

On Tue, 10 May 2016 09:44:58 +0000
"nvx ." <nvx2004 at hotmail.com> wrote: 

> Any hints as to what might be the cause?

It could be that your DE is overriding this. Gnome, perhaps?

with regards

Paul


From nvx2004 at hotmail.com  Tue May 10 12:09:23 2016
From: nvx2004 at hotmail.com (nvx .)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 10:09:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] Actions: move entire thread
In-Reply-To: <20160510105500.6cf94e53@kujata>
References: <DUB120-W4037AF19FC1C68EFE571D7A9710@phx.gbl>,
 <20160510093830.6cc11336@kujata>,
 <DUB120-W1948F8E26DB74DB1CE507EA9710@phx.gbl>,
 <20160510111337.0e859f44@colin.i-run.lau>,
 <DUB120-W43CDF7BF54391A45D9A96A9710@phx.gbl>, <20160510105500.6cf94e53@kujata>
Message-ID: <DUB120-W127CD4002C652D7C858F1AA9710@phx.gbl>

----------------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 10:55:00 +0100
> From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk
> To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] Actions: move entire thread
>
> On Tue, 10 May 2016 09:44:58 +0000
> "nvx ." <nvx2004 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Any hints as to what might be the cause?
>
> It could be that your DE is overriding this. Gnome, perhaps?

Unity in Ubuntu 16.04 x64. It is strange, though. If I press Ctrl + Shift + A, Address Book is opened so the DE probably does not consume the keypress events. or is it that this specific combination cannot be re-mapped to something else than the AB?

Where are these custom key bindings stored and in which format? Perhaps I could just edit the config file and be done with it... ;) 		 	   		  

From andrej at kacian.sk  Tue May 10 12:24:14 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 12:24:14 +0200
Subject: [Users] Actions: move entire thread
In-Reply-To: <DUB120-W127CD4002C652D7C858F1AA9710@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB120-W4037AF19FC1C68EFE571D7A9710@phx.gbl>
 <20160510093830.6cc11336@kujata>
 <DUB120-W1948F8E26DB74DB1CE507EA9710@phx.gbl>
 <20160510111337.0e859f44@colin.i-run.lau>
 <DUB120-W43CDF7BF54391A45D9A96A9710@phx.gbl>
 <20160510105500.6cf94e53@kujata>
 <DUB120-W127CD4002C652D7C858F1AA9710@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20160510122414.55f381b5@hiker>

On Tue, 10 May 2016 10:09:23 +0000
"nvx ." <nvx2004 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Unity in Ubuntu 16.04 x64. It is strange, though. If I press Ctrl +
> Shift + A, Address Book is opened so the DE probably does not consume
> the keypress events. or is it that this specific combination cannot
> be re-mapped to something else than the AB?

Reassigning Ctrl+Shift+A (also initially set to addressbok) works just
fine over here, on KDE4. It could be the DE.

> Where are these custom key bindings stored and in which format?
> Perhaps I could just edit the config file and be done with it... ;)

It's ~/.claws-mail/menurc

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From nvx2004 at hotmail.com  Tue May 10 12:47:22 2016
From: nvx2004 at hotmail.com (nvx .)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 10:47:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] Actions: move entire thread
In-Reply-To: <20160510122414.55f381b5@hiker>
References: <DUB120-W4037AF19FC1C68EFE571D7A9710@phx.gbl>,
 <20160510093830.6cc11336@kujata>,
 <DUB120-W1948F8E26DB74DB1CE507EA9710@phx.gbl>,
 <20160510111337.0e859f44@colin.i-run.lau>,
 <DUB120-W43CDF7BF54391A45D9A96A9710@phx.gbl>, <20160510105500.6cf94e53@kujata>,
 <DUB120-W127CD4002C652D7C858F1AA9710@phx.gbl>, <20160510122414.55f381b5@hiker>
Message-ID: <DUB120-W84E1B62C457A1D6C3A4BFA9710@phx.gbl>

----------------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 12:24:14 +0200
> From: andrej at kacian.sk
> To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] Actions: move entire thread
>
> On Tue, 10 May 2016 10:09:23 +0000
> "nvx ." <nvx2004 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Unity in Ubuntu 16.04 x64. It is strange, though. If I press Ctrl +
>> Shift + A, Address Book is opened so the DE probably does not consume
>> the keypress events. or is it that this specific combination cannot
>> be re-mapped to something else than the AB?
>
> Reassigning Ctrl+Shift+A (also initially set to addressbok) works just
> fine over here, on KDE4. It could be the DE.
>
>> Where are these custom key bindings stored and in which format?
>> Perhaps I could just edit the config file and be done with it... ;)
>
> It's ~/.claws-mail/menurc

Thanks. Although the respective keyboard shortcut is still shown also for Address Book in addition to being listed for Edit> Select thread, it works as I wanted it to so I can live with that. 		 	   		  

From nvx2004 at hotmail.com  Tue May 10 12:51:51 2016
From: nvx2004 at hotmail.com (nvx .)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 10:51:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] Actions: move entire thread
In-Reply-To: <DUB120-W84E1B62C457A1D6C3A4BFA9710@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB120-W4037AF19FC1C68EFE571D7A9710@phx.gbl>, ,
 <20160510093830.6cc11336@kujata>, ,
 <DUB120-W1948F8E26DB74DB1CE507EA9710@phx.gbl>, ,
 <20160510111337.0e859f44@colin.i-run.lau>, ,
 <DUB120-W43CDF7BF54391A45D9A96A9710@phx.gbl>, 
 <20160510105500.6cf94e53@kujata>, ,
 <DUB120-W127CD4002C652D7C858F1AA9710@phx.gbl>, 
 <20160510122414.55f381b5@hiker>,<DUB120-W84E1B62C457A1D6C3A4BFA9710@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <DUB120-W37ED23DC0E44D122343DF5A9710@phx.gbl>

>>> Where are these custom key bindings stored and in which format?
>>> Perhaps I could just edit the config file and be done with it... ;)
>>
>> It's ~/.claws-mail/menurc
>
> Thanks. Although the respective keyboard shortcut is still shown also for Address Book in addition to being listed for Edit> Select thread, it works as I wanted it to so I can live with that.

Oh, silly me -- I forgot to remove the address book key binding. Now it is all as it should be.

Thank you all for the hints and advice. 		 	   		  

From mett at pmars.jp  Tue May 10 18:12:20 2016
From: mett at pmars.jp (mett at pmars.jp)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 01:12:20 +0900
Subject: [Users] compile latest claws-mail on OpenBSD5.9
Message-ID: <3fec55811f16b5989d0cc1e69ab2e4d4@pmars.jp>

Good Evening,
Thanks a lot for the software you re providing.

Im trying to install claws from the tarball I found on claws-mail.org.
When I use ./configure (user or root, same results)
I get an answer telling me ./configure cannot find the lib providing 
encrypt.

Thing is I have encrypt as /usr/bin/encrypt.

I've installed openssl in order to provide an encrypt library; to no 
avail.

I've installed gcc and bison(couldn't find byacc in OpenBSD ports) to no 
avail.

I've ggld 'checking for library containing encrypt... no
configure: error: 'encrypt'-function not found.' to no results.

I've look for a way of setting up the path to encrypt(/usr/bin/encrypt), 
hoping it will lead to the lib,
in the ./configure file but couldn't find it.

I m wondering if sby saw this phenom already,
and what might be the proper way of tackling it.

FYI: Im quite a noob at compiling, ie. my success results are not 
stable.
Sometimes the PC Im using is compiling(./configure-ing and installing) 
properly,
sometimes it's not.

TALIA

ps:info about the system I am using are below;
if you need more,  please tell me.
---------------8>-----------------------
mett:/home/mett/downloads/claws-mail-3.13.2:7$uname -a
OpenBSD ecs.tamerr 5.9 GENERIC.MP#1616 i386


mett:/home/mett/downloads/claws-mail-3.13.2:10$ pkg_info -A              
                                                                      
[22/1309]
aspell-0.60.6.1p2   spell checker designed to eventually replace Ispell
atk-2.18.0          accessibility toolkit used by gtk+
bison-3.0.4         GNU parser generator
bzip2-1.0.6p7       block-sorting file compressor, unencumbered
cairo-1.14.6        vector graphics library
curl-7.47.0         get files from FTP, Gopher, HTTP or HTTPS servers
cyrus-sasl-2.1.26p15 RFC 2222 SASL (Simple Authentication and Security 
Layer)
desktop-file-utils-0.22p0 utilities for dot.desktop entries
fluxbox-1.3.7p0     window manager based on the original Blackbox code
fribidi-0.19.7      library implementing the Unicode Bidirectional 
Algorithm
gcc-4.9.3p3         GNU compiler collection: core C compiler
gcc-libs-4.9.3p3    GNU compiler collection: support libs
gdk-pixbuf-2.32.3   graphic library for gtk+2
gettext-0.19.7      GNU gettext runtime libraries and programs
giflib-5.1.2        tools and library routines for working with GIF 
images
glib2-2.46.2p0      general-purpose utility library
gmp-5.0.2p3         library for arbitrary precision arithmetic
gnome-icon-theme-3.12.0p3 base icon theme for GNOME
gnome-icon-theme-symbolic-3.12.0p2 base icon theme extension for special 
UI contexts
gnupg-1.4.19p0      GNU privacy guard - a free PGP replacement
gnutls-3.3.21       GNU Transport Layer Security library
gpgme-1.5.1p1       GnuPG Made Easy
graphite2-1.3.5     rendering for complex writing systems
gtk+2-2.24.29       multi-platform graphical toolkit
gtk-update-icon-cache-3.18.7 gtk+ icon theme caching utility
harfbuzz-1.1.3      text shaping library
hicolor-icon-theme-0.15 fallback theme of the icon theme specification
imlib2-1.4.7        image manipulation library
jasper-1.900.1p4    reference implementation of JPEG-2000
jpeg-9a             IJG's JPEG compression utilities
libarchive-3.1.2p0  multi-format archive and compression library
libassuan-2.1.1     IPC library used by GnuPG and gpgme
libcanberra-0.30p2  implementation of the Freedesktop sound theme spec.
libcanberra-gtk-0.30p3 gtk+2 helper for libcanberra
libcroco-0.6.11     generic CSS parsing library for GNOME project
libelf-0.8.13p3     read, modify, create ELF files on any arch
libetpan-1.6p0      mail purpose library
libexecinfo-0.2p5v0 clone of backtrace facility found in the GNU libc
libffi-3.2.1p0      Foreign Function Interface
libgpg-error-1.21   error codes for GnuPG related software
libiconv-1.14p3     character set conversion library
libid3tag-0.15.1bp4 library for reading ID3 tags
libidn-1.32         internationalized string handling
libltdl-2.4.2p1     GNU libtool system independent dlopen wrapper
libmpc-0.9p1        complex numbers math library
libnettle-3.2       cryptographic library
libnotify-0.7.6p0   send desktop notifications to a notification daemon
libogg-1.3.2p0      Ogg bitstream library
librsvg-2.40.13     SAX-based render library for SVG files
libsigsegv-2.10p2   library for handling page faults in user mode
libtasn1-4.7        Abstract Syntax Notation One structure parser 
library
libvorbis-1.3.5     audio compression codec library
libxml-2.9.3        XML parsing library
lzo2-2.09           portable speedy lossless data compression library
m4-1.4.17           GNU m4
mpfr-3.1.0.3p0      library for multiple-precision floating-point 
computations
nghttp2-1.6.0       library for HTTP/2
p11-kit-0.22.1p1    library for loading and enumurating of PKCS#11 
modules
pango-1.38.1        library for layout and rendering of text
pcre-8.38           perl-compatible regular expression library
png-1.6.20          library for manipulating PNG images
python-2.7.11       interpreted object-oriented programming language
quirks-2.197        exceptions to pkg_add rules
shared-mime-info-1.5 shared mime database for desktops
sound-theme-freedesktop-0.8p0 XDG sound theme
startup-notification-0.12p4 library for tracking application startup
tiff-4.0.6p0        tools and library routines for working with TIFF 
images
xz-5.2.2p0          LZMA compression and decompression tools


mett:/home/mett/downloads/claws-mail-3.13.2:9$ dmesg                     
                                                                      
[76/1236]
OpenBSD 5.9 (GENERIC.MP) #1616: Fri Feb 26 01:28:13 MST 2016
     deraadt at i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 
2.40 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,NXE,LONG,SSE3,DTES64,MWAIT
,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,LAHF,PERF,SENSOR
real mem  = 3480698880 (3319MB)
avail mem = 3401453568 (3243MB)
mpath0 at root
scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: date 12/22/06, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfa0e0, SMBIOS rev. 
2.4 @ 0xf0000 (39 entries)
bios0: vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD version "6.00 PG" date 
12/22/2006
bios0: ELITEGROUP COMPUTER SYSTEM CO.,LTD. 945G-M3
acpi0 at bios0: rev 0
acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SLIC MCFG APIC SSDT SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices PEX0(S5) PEX1(S5) PEX2(S5) PEX3(S5) PEX4(S5) 
PEX5(S5) HUB0(S5) UAR1(S5) UAR2(S5) USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB3(S3) 
USBE(S3) AC9
7(S5) AZAL(S5) [...]
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xe0000000, bus 0-255
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 8 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges
cpu0: apic clock running at 266MHz
cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, C-substates=0.2, IBE
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 
2.40 GHz
cpu1: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,NXE,LONG,SSE3,DTES64,MWAIT
,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,LAHF,PERF,SENSOR
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 4 pa 0xfec00000, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 4
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX0)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX1)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX2)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX3)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX4)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX5)
acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus 1 (HUB0)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C1(@1 halt!), FVS, 2400, 1600 MHz
acpicpu1 at acpi0: C1(@1 halt!), FVS, 2400, 1600 MHz
acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature is 85 degC
acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB
bios0: ROM list: 0xc0000/0xae00! 0xcc000/0x8000! 0xd4000/0x1000
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82945G Host" rev 0x02
inteldrm0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel 82945G Video" rev 0x02
drm0 at inteldrm0                                                        
                                                                      
[28/1236]
intagp0 at inteldrm0
agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xd0000000, size 0x10000000
inteldrm0: apic 4 int 16
inteldrm0: 1600x900
wsdisplay0 at inteldrm0 mux 1: console (std, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (std, vt100 emulation)
azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 "Intel 82801GB HD Audio" rev 0x01: msi
azalia0: codecs: Realtek ALC883
audio0 at azalia0
uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x01: apic 4 int 
23
uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x01: apic 4 int 
19
uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x01: apic 4 int 
18
uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x01: apic 4 int 
16
ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x01: apic 4 int 
23
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ppb0 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 "Intel 82801BA Hub-to-PCI" rev 0xe1
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
re0 at pci1 dev 5 function 0 "Realtek 8169SC" rev 0x10: RTL8169/8110SCd 
(0x1800), apic 4 int 20, address 00:19:21:5e:47:06
rgephy0 at re0 phy 7: RTL8169S/8110S/8211 PHY, rev. 2
ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Intel 82801GB LPC" rev 0x01: PM 
disabled
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 "Intel 82801GB SATA" rev 0x01: DMA, 
channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: <WDC WD800JD-75MSA3>
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 76293MB, 156250000 sectors
wd1 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1: <WDC WD800JD-75MSA3>
wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 76293MB, 156250000 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 6
wd1(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 6
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus1 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: <HL-DT-ST, DVDRAM GSA-H42N, RL00> ATAPI 
5/cdrom removable
wd2 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 1: <Hitachi HDP725025GLAT80>
wd2: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 238475MB, 488397168 sectors
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4
wd2(pciide0:1:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 6
ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 "Intel 82801GB SMBus" rev 0x01: apic 4 
int 19
iic0 at ichiic0
spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 2GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-6400CL6
spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x52: 2GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-6400CL6
usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
uhub3 at usb3 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb4 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0
uhub4 at usb4 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
isa0 at ichpcib0
isadma0 at isa0
com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 irq 1 irq 12
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
spkr0 at pcppi0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7
it0 at isa0 port 0x2e/2: IT8712F rev 7, EC port 0x290
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16
umass0 at uhub0 port 8 configuration 1 interface 0 "Generic Mass Storage 
Device" rev 2.00/1.29 addr 2
umass0: using SCSI over Bulk-Only
scsibus2 at umass0: 2 targets, initiator 0
sd0 at scsibus2 targ 1 lun 0: <Generic, USB SD Reader, 1.00> SCSI0 
0/direct removable
sd1 at scsibus2 targ 1 lun 1: <Generic, USB CF Reader, 1.01> SCSI0 
0/direct removable
sd2 at scsibus2 targ 1 lun 2: <Generic, USB SM Reader, 1.02> SCSI0 
0/direct removable
sd3 at scsibus2 targ 1 lun 3: <Generic, USB MS Reader, 1.03> SCSI0 
0/direct removable
vscsi0 at root
scsibus3 at vscsi0: 256 targets
softraid0 at root
scsibus4 at softraid0: 256 targets
sd4 at scsibus4 targ 1 lun 0: <OPENBSD, SR RAID 1, 005> SCSI2 0/direct 
fixed
sd4: 76292MB, 512 bytes/sector, 156247598 sectors
root on sd4a (b660cf3452d5fa5d.a) swap on sd4b dump on sd4b
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From nick at linicks.net  Tue May 10 18:28:15 2016
From: nick at linicks.net (Nick Warne)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 17:28:15 +0100
Subject: [Users] compile latest claws-mail on OpenBSD5.9
In-Reply-To: <3fec55811f16b5989d0cc1e69ab2e4d4@pmars.jp>
References: <3fec55811f16b5989d0cc1e69ab2e4d4@pmars.jp>
Message-ID: <20160510172815.5de31877@palantirII.linicks.net>

On Wed, 11 May 2016 01:12:20 +0900
mett at pmars.jp wrote:

> Good Evening,
> Thanks a lot for the software you re providing.
> 
> Im trying to install claws from the tarball I found on claws-mail.org.
> When I use ./configure (user or root, same results)
> I get an answer telling me ./configure cannot find the lib providing 
> encrypt.
> 
> Thing is I have encrypt as /usr/bin/encrypt.

So you have /usr/bin/encrypt/lib

directory?

Edit /etc/ld.so.conf

to include that path (i.e. add /usr/bin/encrypt/lib )

and then run #~ ldconfig

(all as root, of course).

Nick
-- 
Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward?  That's the trouble with
time travel, you never can tell."
		-- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Tue May 10 18:29:46 2016
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 17:29:46 +0100
Subject: [Users] compile latest claws-mail on OpenBSD5.9
In-Reply-To: <3fec55811f16b5989d0cc1e69ab2e4d4@pmars.jp>
References: <3fec55811f16b5989d0cc1e69ab2e4d4@pmars.jp>
Message-ID: <20160510172946.2e3fd793@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Wed, 11 May 2016 01:12:20 +0900
mett at pmars.jp wrote:

Hello mett at pmars.jp,

>I get an answer telling me ./configure cannot find the lib providing 
>encrypt.
>
>Thing is I have encrypt as /usr/bin/encrypt.

Chances are it's looking for the relevant -dev package, not the binary.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
You never listen to a word that I said
Public Image - Public Image Ltd
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From andrej at kacian.sk  Tue May 10 20:34:46 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 20:34:46 +0200
Subject: [Users] compile latest claws-mail on OpenBSD5.9
In-Reply-To: <20160510172946.2e3fd793@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <3fec55811f16b5989d0cc1e69ab2e4d4@pmars.jp>
 <20160510172946.2e3fd793@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20160510203446.316b9015@penny>

On Tue, 10 May 2016 17:29:46 +0100
Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> >I get an answer telling me ./configure cannot find the lib providing 
> >encrypt.
> >
> >Thing is I have encrypt as /usr/bin/encrypt.  
> 
> Chances are it's looking for the relevant -dev package, not the binary.

Actually, it's looking for a library providing the encrypt() C
function. On Linux, this is usually libcrypt, shipped together with the
system C runtime (libc). I have no idea where OBSD gets it.

http://nixdoc.net/man-pages/OpenBSD/man3/encrypt.3.html

Regards,
-- 
Andrej
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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Tue May 10 21:09:21 2016
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 20:09:21 +0100
Subject: [Users] compile latest claws-mail on OpenBSD5.9
In-Reply-To: <20160510203446.316b9015@penny>
References: <3fec55811f16b5989d0cc1e69ab2e4d4@pmars.jp>
 <20160510172946.2e3fd793@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20160510203446.316b9015@penny>
Message-ID: <20160510200921.07fa858f@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Tue, 10 May 2016 20:34:46 +0200
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

Hello Andrej,

>Actually, it's looking for a library providing the encrypt() C

Which all goes to show I have little idea of what I'm talking about, when
it comes to compiling code.   :-(

Ah, well.......

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
Black man got a lot of problems, but he don't mind throwing a brick
White Riot - The Clash
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From nick at linicks.net  Tue May 10 21:25:28 2016
From: nick at linicks.net (Nick Warne)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 20:25:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] compile latest claws-mail on OpenBSD5.9
In-Reply-To: <20160510200921.07fa858f@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <3fec55811f16b5989d0cc1e69ab2e4d4@pmars.jp>
 <20160510172946.2e3fd793@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20160510203446.316b9015@penny>
 <20160510200921.07fa858f@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20160510202528.10eb19a2@palantirII.linicks.net>

On Tue, 10 May 2016 20:09:21 +0100
Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 10 May 2016 20:34:46 +0200
> Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:
> 
> Hello Andrej,
> 
> >Actually, it's looking for a library providing the encrypt() C  
> 
> Which all goes to show I have little idea of what I'm talking about,
> when it comes to compiling code.   :-(

Good question.  What does the *BSD family use as C libs?  I would have
guessed GLibc ~ but never guess.

Nick
-- 
Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward?  That's the trouble with
time travel, you never can tell."
		-- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"


From andrej at kacian.sk  Tue May 10 21:45:50 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 21:45:50 +0200
Subject: [Users] compile latest claws-mail on OpenBSD5.9
In-Reply-To: <20160510202528.10eb19a2@palantirII.linicks.net>
References: <3fec55811f16b5989d0cc1e69ab2e4d4@pmars.jp>
 <20160510172946.2e3fd793@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20160510203446.316b9015@penny>
 <20160510200921.07fa858f@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20160510202528.10eb19a2@palantirII.linicks.net>
Message-ID: <20160510214550.6a6ac694@penny>

On Tue, 10 May 2016 20:25:28 +0100
Nick Warne <nick at linicks.net> wrote:

> > Which all goes to show I have little idea of what I'm talking about,
> > when it comes to compiling code.   :-(  
> 
> Good question.  What does the *BSD family use as C libs?  I would have
> guessed GLibc ~ but never guess.

I highly doubt they're using the "GNU C library". :)

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From boxcars at gmx.net  Tue May 10 22:12:10 2016
From: boxcars at gmx.net (=?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?=)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 15:12:10 -0500
Subject: [Users] compile latest claws-mail on OpenBSD5.9
References: <3fec55811f16b5989d0cc1e69ab2e4d4@pmars.jp>
 <20160510172946.2e3fd793@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20160510203446.316b9015@penny>
 <20160510200921.07fa858f@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20160510202528.10eb19a2@palantirII.linicks.net>
 <20160510214550.6a6ac694@penny>
Message-ID: <20160510151210.09b00876@sepulchrave.remarqs>

On Tue, 10 May 2016 21:45:50 +0200
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> On Tue, 10 May 2016 20:25:28 +0100
> Nick Warne <nick at linicks.net> wrote:
> 
> > > Which all goes to show I have little idea of what I'm talking
> > > about, when it comes to compiling code.   :-(    
> > 
> > Good question.  What does the *BSD family use as C libs?  I would
> > have guessed GLibc ~ but never guess.  
> 
> I highly doubt they're using the "GNU C library". :)

Shockingly, they call their C library "BSD libc".  (Probably amongst
themselves they just all it "libc".)  Anyway, it looks like most *BSDs
use the same one,
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_standard_library#BSD_libc>.



From mett at pmars.jp  Wed May 11 15:40:19 2016
From: mett at pmars.jp (mett)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 22:40:19 +0900
Subject: [Users] compile latest claws-mail on OpenBSD5.9
In-Reply-To: <20160510151210.09b00876@sepulchrave.remarqs>
References: <3fec55811f16b5989d0cc1e69ab2e4d4@pmars.jp>
 <20160510172946.2e3fd793@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20160510203446.316b9015@penny>
 <20160510200921.07fa858f@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20160510202528.10eb19a2@palantirII.linicks.net>
 <20160510214550.6a6ac694@penny>
 <20160510151210.09b00876@sepulchrave.remarqs>
Message-ID: <edb425eff974b0d14ac21d65a558d08c@pmars.jp>

2016-05-11 05:12 に »Q« さんは書きました:
> On Tue, 10 May 2016 21:45:50 +0200
> Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 10 May 2016 20:25:28 +0100
>> Nick Warne <nick at linicks.net> wrote:
>> 
>> > > Which all goes to show I have little idea of what I'm talking
>> > > about, when it comes to compiling code.   :-(
>> >
>> > Good question.  What does the *BSD family use as C libs?  I would
>> > have guessed GLibc ~ but never guess.
>> 
>> I highly doubt they're using the "GNU C library". :)
> 
> Shockingly, they call their C library "BSD libc".  (Probably amongst
> themselves they just all it "libc".)  Anyway, it looks like most *BSDs
> use the same one,
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_standard_library#BSD_libc>.
> 
Gud eve,
thanks for all the answers.
Im currently checking ldconfig(first encounter) and lib for crypt(and 
encrypt in btw) functions.
I found a libgcrypt I installed but that didn't do it...
Anyway it looks like it ll take more time than I expected
so Ill update when I found a solution or when I have another question
linked to this thread.

Again thanks a lot for the comments.


From andrej at kacian.sk  Wed May 11 16:01:29 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 16:01:29 +0200
Subject: [Users] compile latest claws-mail on OpenBSD5.9
In-Reply-To: <3fec55811f16b5989d0cc1e69ab2e4d4@pmars.jp>
References: <3fec55811f16b5989d0cc1e69ab2e4d4@pmars.jp>
Message-ID: <20160511160129.1893735f@hiker>

On Wed, 11 May 2016 01:12:20 +0900
mett at pmars.jp wrote:

> Im trying to install claws from the tarball I found on claws-mail.org.

Let's take a step back. Why are you doing it this way, instead of using
the official OpenBSD packages? There seem to be quite recent (3.13.2)
packages available on official mirrors, e.g.
http://ftp.spline.de/pub/OpenBSD/5.9/packages/amd64/

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From jseymour at LinxNet.com  Wed May 11 16:04:04 2016
From: jseymour at LinxNet.com (Jim Seymour)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 10:04:04 -0400
Subject: [Users] compile latest claws-mail on OpenBSD5.9
In-Reply-To: <edb425eff974b0d14ac21d65a558d08c@pmars.jp>
References: <3fec55811f16b5989d0cc1e69ab2e4d4@pmars.jp>
 <20160510172946.2e3fd793@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20160510203446.316b9015@penny>
 <20160510200921.07fa858f@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20160510202528.10eb19a2@palantirII.linicks.net>
 <20160510214550.6a6ac694@penny>
 <20160510151210.09b00876@sepulchrave.remarqs>
 <edb425eff974b0d14ac21d65a558d08c@pmars.jp>
Message-ID: <20160511100404.6f9bf5ea@win0091>

On Wed, 11 May 2016 22:40:19 +0900
mett <mett at pmars.jp> wrote:

[snip]
> I found a libgcrypt I installed but that didn't do it...
[snip]

I don't know about OpenBSD (never used it), but it *might* be necessary
to install the development support (include files, mainly) separately,
like it often is under Linux.

You probably really need to be asking such questions in the appropriate
OpenBSD forum.

Good Luck,
Jim
-- 
Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam
filtering.  If you reply to this email and your email is
rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my
web form at <http://jimsun.LinxNet.com/contact/scform.php>.


From mett at pmars.jp  Wed May 11 16:58:55 2016
From: mett at pmars.jp (mett)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 23:58:55 +0900
Subject: [Users] compile latest claws-mail on OpenBSD5.9
In-Reply-To: <20160511160129.1893735f@hiker>
References: <3fec55811f16b5989d0cc1e69ab2e4d4@pmars.jp>
 <20160511160129.1893735f@hiker>
Message-ID: <0ddc251e6e4a0ba72f0d8b46b3e93dfa@pmars.jp>

2016-05-11 23:01 に Andrej Kacian さんは書きました:
> On Wed, 11 May 2016 01:12:20 +0900
> mett at pmars.jp wrote:
> 
>> Im trying to install claws from the tarball I found on claws-mail.org.
> 
> Let's take a step back. Why are you doing it this way, instead of using
> the official OpenBSD packages? There seem to be quite recent (3.13.2)
> packages available on official mirrors, e.g.
> http://ftp.spline.de/pub/OpenBSD/5.9/packages/amd64/
> 
> Regards,

Im trying to install claws-mail without the dbus dependency.
The package in the ports is dbus dependent.

Actually, my next step will be to ftp only claws-mail package from the 
ports
and try to build from there
(to be honest no big hopes regarding the dependency but you don t know
if you don't try!).

Thanks for the comments.





From rsv869 at runbox.com  Wed May 11 19:36:42 2016
From: rsv869 at runbox.com (Reid Vail)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 13:36:42 -0400
Subject: [Users] bogo filter error on startup
Message-ID: <20160511133642.14bc813e@linux-vyih.suse>

Hello Claws team -

I'm running Claws 3.12..0.  

I recently switch distros from LinuxMint to SuSE Leap
42.1, and since then am getting a Claws start-up message saying "bogofilter -T -b`
couldn't be run"

I tried removing that plugin and reinstalling it, but no change.  Any thoughts what
might be causing that?

Thanks

Reid


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed May 11 19:43:32 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 18:43:32 +0100
Subject: [Users] bogo filter error on startup
In-Reply-To: <20160511133642.14bc813e@linux-vyih.suse>
References: <20160511133642.14bc813e@linux-vyih.suse>
Message-ID: <20160511184332.6ed70f60@kujata>

On Wed, 11 May 2016 13:36:42 -0400
Reid Vail <rsv869 at runbox.com> wrote: 

> I tried removing that plugin and reinstalling it, but no change.
> Any thoughts what might be causing that?

You haven't installed bogofilter.

with regards

Paul


From nick at linicks.net  Wed May 11 20:03:59 2016
From: nick at linicks.net (Nick Warne)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 19:03:59 +0100
Subject: [Users] bogo filter error on startup
In-Reply-To: <20160511184332.6ed70f60@kujata>
References: <20160511133642.14bc813e@linux-vyih.suse>
 <20160511184332.6ed70f60@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160511190359.145c913a@palantirII.linicks.net>

On Wed, 11 May 2016 18:43:32 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 11 May 2016 13:36:42 -0400
> Reid Vail <rsv869 at runbox.com> wrote: 
> 
> > I tried removing that plugin and reinstalling it, but no change.
> > Any thoughts what might be causing that?
> 
> You haven't installed bogofilter.

I had this error but resolved it by googling - leading to the obvious
answer.

The docs for bogofilter plugin do mention you need a local installation,
but perhaps it also needs a mention about that error message too, to
make it obvious.

Nick
-- 
Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward?  That's the trouble with
time travel, you never can tell."
		-- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"


From ken_11 at btinternet.com  Wed May 11 21:27:51 2016
From: ken_11 at btinternet.com (Ken Parkes)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 20:27:51 +0100
Subject: [Users] Full headers
In-Reply-To: <20160508123952.5b7ab013@utnubu>
References: <20160508105417.2c6e66e6@AMDdesktop>
 <20160508120323.7a0a6095@bonifac.skk>
 <20160508123952.5b7ab013@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160511202751.4cc124d2@AMDdesktop>

On Sun, 8 May 2016 12:39:52 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <silver.bullet at zoho.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 8 May 2016 12:03:23 +0200, Slavko wrote:
> >Ctrl+H
> 
> "View > Message Source" (default shortcut Ctrl+U) could be helpful
> too.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

My apologies for not responding earlier, have been tied up.  I expected
a simple View or Preferences "shew all headers" but couldn't find one
until I went into text options (a strange site for such a change).

How I missed the option in View confounds me.  I get more stupid by
the day.

TFL  Ken 


From ejm181 at gmail.com  Thu May 12 15:57:44 2016
From: ejm181 at gmail.com (Jeremy Morris)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 14:57:44 +0100
Subject: [Users] Notification delay
Message-ID: <57348BD8.1020704@gmail.com>

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From nick at linicks.net  Thu May 12 20:00:22 2016
From: nick at linicks.net (Nick Warne)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 19:00:22 +0100
Subject: [Users] Notification delay
In-Reply-To: <57348BD8.1020704@gmail.com>
References: <57348BD8.1020704@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20160512190022.672182dc@palantirII.linicks.net>

On Thu, 12 May 2016 14:57:44 +0100
Jeremy Morris <ejm181 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've just started to use Claws (linux Mint 17) as a possible
> replacement for the increasingly slow T'bird

I don't know the answer to your question, but I moved (back) to claws
mail due to t'bird slowness - like 50 seconds start up, and 20~30
seconds to check 4 acounts.  Claws does it in < 5 seconds.

It's a breath of fresh air :)

Nick
-- 
Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward?  That's the trouble with
time travel, you never can tell."
		-- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"


From mir at miras.org  Thu May 12 20:28:38 2016
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 20:28:38 +0200
Subject: [Users] Notification delay
In-Reply-To: <57348BD8.1020704@gmail.com>
References: <57348BD8.1020704@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20160512202838.548f9102@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Thu, 12 May 2016 14:57:44 +0100
Jeremy Morris <ejm181 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've just started to use Claws (linux Mint 17) as a possible replacement for the increasingly slow T'bird - but I notice that there's a significant delay in Claws notifying me of received mail.T'bird, phone and Outlook all refresh within seconds of a new mail being received, but Claws takes several minutes. T'bird and Claws are both set to check every 10 minutes. ANyone explain how Claws identifies when new mail lands in my mailbox, and why it takes so long to appear in the mail client, compared to other mail clients?
> 
The other MUA's you mention all have implemented IMAP IDLE or better
known as push email (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2177). Claws mail
has not implemented this feature.

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917
--------------------------------------------------------------
/usr/games/fortune -es says:
That secret you've been guarding, isn't.
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From John at wexfordpress.com  Sat May 14 07:59:01 2016
From: John at wexfordpress.com (John Culleton)
Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 01:59:01 -0400
Subject: [Users] Problem with Claws Mail Version 3.13.2
Message-ID: <20160514015901.723f5c0a@simple.wexfordpress.net>

For some time after moving to a new computer I
have not had a usable spam filter. Now after
upgrading Slackware to 1.4.2 beta 2 and with it
Claws Mail if I designate an incoming email as
spam the system stalls. 

Is there a current user guide for using
bogofilter with Claws Mail Version 3.13.2?

All advice appreciated.

John Culleton


From nick at linicks.net  Thu May 12 20:42:16 2016
From: nick at linicks.net (Nick Warne)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 19:42:16 +0100
Subject: [Users] Problem with Claws Mail Version 3.13.2
In-Reply-To: <20160514015901.723f5c0a@simple.wexfordpress.net>
References: <20160514015901.723f5c0a@simple.wexfordpress.net>
Message-ID: <20160512194216.16f280b5@palantirII.linicks.net>

John,

On Sat, 14 May 2016 01:59:01 -0400
John Culleton <John at wexfordpress.com> wrote:

> For some time after moving to a new computer I
> have not had a usable spam filter. Now after
> upgrading Slackware to 1.4.2 beta 2 and with it
> Claws Mail if I designate an incoming email as
> spam the system stalls. 
> 
> Is there a current user guide for using
> bogofilter with Claws Mail Version 3.13.2?

Is it Saturday already?

I used slackbuilds bogoflter build from source - it's quite simple:

https://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.1/system/bogofilter/?search=bogofilter

All works fine here.

If you need any help, yell.

Nick
-- 
Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward?  That's the trouble with
time travel, you never can tell."
		-- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"


From John at wexfordpress.com  Sat May 14 08:54:35 2016
From: John at wexfordpress.com (John Culleton)
Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 02:54:35 -0400
Subject: [Users] Fw: Install bogofilter?
In-Reply-To: <20160408172657.72a76694@utnubu>
References: <20160408101842.29ec3e15@simple.wexford>
 <20160408171226.2902c9e5@utnubu> <20160408172657.72a76694@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160514025435.439c700c@simple.wexfordpress.net>

On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 17:26:57 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <silver.bullet at zoho.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 17:12:26 +0200, Ralf Mardorf
> wrote:
> >if you install the plugin by the menu
> >Configuration > Plugins, there;s nothing else
> >to do.  
> 
> PS: My apologies, you perhaps want to check
> Configuration > Preferences... > Plugins >
> Bogofilter > Process messages on receiving.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
> 

This solved the freezing problem. Whether
bogofilter is in operation is yet to be
determined. 

John Culleton.


From nick at linicks.net  Thu May 12 21:42:40 2016
From: nick at linicks.net (Nick Warne)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 20:42:40 +0100
Subject: [Users] Fw: Install bogofilter?
In-Reply-To: <20160514025435.439c700c@simple.wexfordpress.net>
References: <20160408101842.29ec3e15@simple.wexford>
 <20160408171226.2902c9e5@utnubu> <20160408172657.72a76694@utnubu>
 <20160514025435.439c700c@simple.wexfordpress.net>
Message-ID: <20160512204240.359eb482@palantirII.linicks.net>

On Sat, 14 May 2016 02:54:35 -0400
John Culleton <John at wexfordpress.com> wrote:

> This solved the freezing problem. Whether
> bogofilter is in operation is yet to be
> determined. 

Good job - but as I said, it isn't Saturday yet.  You need to at least
get system time/date right, that can fubar all sorts of things.

Nick
-- 
Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward?  That's the trouble with
time travel, you never can tell."
		-- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu May 12 21:45:45 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 19:45:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3645] New: The plugin.php page doesn't show all plugins
Message-ID: <bug-3645-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3645

            Bug ID: 3645
           Summary: The plugin.php page doesn't show all plugins
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Website
           Version: unspecified
          Hardware: PC
               URL: http://www.claws-mail.org/plugin.php?plugin=dillo
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: General
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: claws-mail at ch.pkts.ca

I found a link to the dillo html renderer plugin, but when I went to the main
plugin.php page, it was not visible.  Same for the gtk html plugin, and
probably unknown others (since they're not shown).

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu May 12 23:40:08 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 21:40:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3645] The plugin.php page doesn't show all plugins
In-Reply-To: <bug-3645-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3645-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3645-595-a9PP8VjzPL@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3645

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
That page shows the current plugins. The 2 you mentioned were retired long ago.

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From ejm181 at gmail.com  Fri May 13 10:04:42 2016
From: ejm181 at gmail.com (Jeremy Morris)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 09:04:42 +0100
Subject: [Users] Notification delay
In-Reply-To: <20160512202838.548f9102@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <57348BD8.1020704@gmail.com>
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri May 13 15:17:20 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 13:17:20 +0000
Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?q?=5BBug_3646=5D_New=3A__SEGV_when_selecting_unic?=
 =?utf-8?q?ode_char_=E2=89=A5_U+10000?=
Message-ID: <bug-3646-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3646

            Bug ID: 3646
           Summary: SEGV when selecting unicode char ≥ U+10000
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: major
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Compose Window
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: jb at leger.tf

Created attachment 1645
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1645&action=edit
call stack

In the compose windows, I write text with unicode ≥ U+10000, like

> Hello

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri May 13 15:28:33 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 13:28:33 +0000
Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?q?=5BBug_3646=5D__SEGV_when_selecting_unicode_cha?=
 =?utf-8?q?r_=E2=89=A5_U+10000?=
In-Reply-To: <bug-3646-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3646-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3646-595-LI7Z1KWaaa@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3646

--- Comment #1 from Jean-Benoist Leger <jb at leger.tf> ---
It seems the bucktracker does not like ≥ U+10000 too.

So, I try again, without U+10000

In the compose windows, I write text with unicode ≥ U+10000, like (but with
real caracter, not escaped one)

> Hello \U0001d500\U0001d4f8\U0001d4fb\U0001d4f5\U0001d4ed!

Without the bug
===============

I select text begining with a normal character e.g. (I use [] to mark
selection):

> Hel[lo \U0001d500\U0001d4f8\U0001d4fb\U0001d4f5\U0001d4ed!]

and I right-click, nothing happens.

With the bug
============

I select text begining with a ≥ U+10000 character e.g. (I use [] to mark
selection):

> Hello [\U0001d500\U0001d4f8\U0001d4fb\U0001d4f5\U0001d4ed!]

and I right-click, SEGV happens.

Details
=======

Version: bug happens with 3.11.1 packaged by my distribution and git version
(commit c4ebc9dacb8242351b3cc485aadfe6bc05f89cd8)

Provided in attachment: gdb call stack for both version.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri May 13 15:32:13 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 13:32:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?q?=5BBug_3646=5D__SEGV_when_selecting_unicode_cha?=
 =?utf-8?q?r_=E2=89=A5_U+10000?=
In-Reply-To: <bug-3646-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3646-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3646-595-n4s0b9Y5Lm@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3646

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Severity|major                       |normal

--- Comment #2 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
looks like a crash in hunspell.
no crash here.
what dictionary are you using?
what distro and version are you using?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri May 13 15:33:52 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 13:33:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?q?=5BBug_3646=5D__SEGV_when_selecting_unicode_cha?=
 =?utf-8?q?r_=E2=89=A5_U+10000?=
In-Reply-To: <bug-3646-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3646-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3646-595-lEsNWcgMLr@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3646

--- Comment #3 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Maybe you can attach a message which produces this? Or fwd as attachment to me
directly.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri May 13 15:38:54 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 13:38:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?q?=5BBug_3646=5D__SEGV_when_selecting_unicode_cha?=
 =?utf-8?q?r_=E2=89=A5_U+10000?=
In-Reply-To: <bug-3646-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3646-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3646-595-zBE6Tj6qBU@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3646

Jean-Benoist Leger <jb at leger.tf> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Severity|normal                      |major

--- Comment #4 from Jean-Benoist Leger <jb at leger.tf> ---
My distribution is Debian Jessie (8.4).

I use the `fr_FR` dictionnary. The problem does not happend wuth the `en`.

I will attach a message for reproducing.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri May 13 15:40:33 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 13:40:33 +0000
Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?q?=5BBug_3646=5D__SEGV_when_selecting_unicode_cha?=
 =?utf-8?q?r_=E2=89=A5_U+10000?=
In-Reply-To: <bug-3646-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3646-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3646-595-XOo5asmyjm@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3646

--- Comment #5 from Jean-Benoist Leger <jb at leger.tf> ---
Created attachment 1646
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1646&action=edit
Example to reproduce (in UTF-8)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri May 13 15:44:13 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 13:44:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?q?=5BBug_3646=5D__SEGV_when_selecting_unicode_cha?=
 =?utf-8?q?r_=E2=89=A5_U+10000?=
In-Reply-To: <bug-3646-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3646-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3646-595-jgsSNpQ2zT@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3646

Jean-Benoist Leger <jb at leger.tf> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Severity|major                       |normal

--- Comment #6 from Jean-Benoist Leger <jb at leger.tf> ---
I think the bugtracker web interface hates me. Sorry for serverity change.

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From nick at linicks.net  Fri May 13 16:03:25 2016
From: nick at linicks.net (Nick Warne)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 15:03:25 +0100
Subject: [Users] Change browser from system default
Message-ID: <20160513150325.41745a48@palantirII.linicks.net>

Hi All,

I am currently using Dillo more and more, but my Slackware syatem is set
to use Firefox (as most important sites, like banking etc. use a lot
of js).

Is there a way I can tell Claws to use Dillo from mailed URL's?

Thanks,

Nick
-- 
Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward?  That's the trouble with
time travel, you never can tell."
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri May 13 16:32:58 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 15:32:58 +0100
Subject: [Users] Change browser from system default
In-Reply-To: <20160513150325.41745a48@palantirII.linicks.net>
References: <20160513150325.41745a48@palantirII.linicks.net>
Message-ID: <20160513153258.7bcb2e07@kujata>

On Fri, 13 May 2016 15:03:25 +0100
Nick Warne <nick at linicks.net> wrote: 

> Is there a way I can tell Claws to use Dillo from mailed URL's?

/Configuration/Preferences/External programs

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri May 13 16:34:31 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 14:34:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?q?=5BBug_3646=5D__SEGV_when_selecting_unicode_cha?=
 =?utf-8?q?r_=E2=89=A5_U+10000_with_fr=5FFR_dictionary?=
In-Reply-To: <bug-3646-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3646-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3646-595-YeO85T4Fka@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3646

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
          Component|UI/Compose Window           |UI/Compose Window/Spell
                   |                            |Checker
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID
            Summary|SEGV when selecting unicode |SEGV when selecting unicode
                   |char ≥ U+10000              |char ≥ U+10000 with fr_FR
                   |                            |dictionary

--- Comment #7 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
It's not our bug. Probably hunspell's bug

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri May 13 16:35:24 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 14:35:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?q?=5BBug_3646=5D__SEGV_when_selecting_unicode_cha?=
 =?utf-8?q?r_=E2=89=A5_U+10000_with_fr=5FFR_dictionary?=
In-Reply-To: <bug-3646-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3646-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3646-595-Pa4Enk0rQy@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3646

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|RESOLVED                    |REOPENED
         Resolution|INVALID                     |---

--- Comment #8 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Sorry, didn't mean to close it. Not our bug, but not good to crash...

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From nick at linicks.net  Fri May 13 16:41:16 2016
From: nick at linicks.net (Nick Warne)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 15:41:16 +0100
Subject: [Users] Change browser from system default
In-Reply-To: <20160513153258.7bcb2e07@kujata>
References: <20160513150325.41745a48@palantirII.linicks.net>
 <20160513153258.7bcb2e07@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160513154116.39008698@palantirII.linicks.net>

On Fri, 13 May 2016 15:32:58 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 13 May 2016 15:03:25 +0100
> Nick Warne <nick at linicks.net> wrote: 
> 
> > Is there a way I can tell Claws to use Dillo from mailed URL's?  
> 
> /Configuration/Preferences/External programs

Doh!  I looked everywhere for that!

Thanks,

Nick
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From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Fri May 13 17:57:17 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 17:57:17 +0200
Subject: [Users] Change browser from system default
In-Reply-To: <20160513150325.41745a48@palantirII.linicks.net>
References: <20160513150325.41745a48@palantirII.linicks.net>
Message-ID: <20160513175717.4686a213@utnubu>

On Fri, 13 May 2016 15:03:25 +0100, Nick Warne wrote:
>Is there a way I can tell Claws to use Dillo from mailed URL's?

Configuration > Preferences... > Message View > External Programs > ...



From pf at pfortin.com  Sat May 14 16:50:17 2016
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 10:50:17 -0400
Subject: [Users] New folder notification (SysTrayIcon) default
Message-ID: <20160514105017.5af8dcc8@pfortin.com>

Hi,

After all these years, never noticed that once "Only include selected
folders" is enabled, newly created folder(s) are disabled by default.

Before opening an enhancement request, is there already an option to
set the Notification default for new folders?

If not, I would find myself wishing
  Configuration:Preferences:Plugins:Notification:SysTrayIcon
had:

  [ ] Only {include,exclude} selected folders  [Select folders...]

instead of simply:

  [ ] Only include selected folders  [Select folders...]

This could then be used as the default for new folders.  For example,
once initially setup, my preference for new folders is to enable
notifications. The only reason I enabled this feature was to disable
notifications on Drafts and a few other folders.  By using exclude, I
could scan my long folder list more quickly -- check marks are easier to
see flying by than blanks.

{include,exclude} would essentially be a default toggle which would also
toggle all folder selections.

Cheers,
Pierre




From osterd at gmx.de  Sun May 15 17:12:38 2016
From: osterd at gmx.de (osterd at gmx.de)
Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 17:12:38 +0200
Subject: [Users] Feature request: More then 1 alternative dictionary
Message-ID: <20160515171238.7f9c2e5f@Secure>

Hello Claws-Mail developers,

for a long time I've been doing very well with just two different dictionaries
for spell checking. However as time passes and I learned more languages I have
now at least three languages that I write my e-mails in.

Would it be possible with little effort to modify the spell checking
configuration page in a way that an "arbitrary" number of languages can be
used? E.g. by picking the candidates from a list of installed dictionaries.
Since enchant run's in the backend it shouldn't be to difficult to iterate
through all the dictionaries in the list. Is it?

For the moment I'm thinking about hot-fixing my problem by creating a joint
aspell dictionary from two dictionaries. However this is certainly not the way
to go in the long run.

Best
H.


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Sun May 15 18:06:37 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 18:06:37 +0200
Subject: [Users] Feature request: More then 1 alternative dictionary
In-Reply-To: <20160515171238.7f9c2e5f@Secure>
References: <20160515171238.7f9c2e5f@Secure>
Message-ID: <20160515180637.17b09126@utnubu>

Did you try to use different dictionaries per folder?

Select a folder, right click > Properties > Compose > ...

The folder properties also just provide 2 directories, but I suspect
you can chose 2 different directories for each folder.

Regards,
Ralf



From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Sun May 15 18:15:00 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 18:15:00 +0200
Subject: [Users] Feature request: More then 1 alternative dictionary
In-Reply-To: <20160515180637.17b09126@utnubu>
References: <20160515171238.7f9c2e5f@Secure> <20160515180637.17b09126@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160515181500.5d55e5b0@utnubu>

On Sun, 15 May 2016 18:06:37 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>Did you try to use different dictionaries per folder?
>
>Select a folder, right click > Properties > Compose > ...
>
>The folder properties also just provide 2 directories, but I suspect
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^
>you can chose 2 different directories for each folder.
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^

Oops ;)

I don't write again to correct those typos, just to inform that there
already is a list available.

The composer (editor) window's menu provides

Spelling > Options > ...

were you can select a dictionary on demand, from a list of dictionaries.



From freebsd at grem.de  Sun May 15 18:35:15 2016
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 18:35:15 +0200
Subject: [Users] Parse PGP/MIME headers emitted by GPGMail + Exchange [patch]
Message-ID: <20160515183515.52d439ca@bsd64.grem.de>

This patch allows claws to read PGP encrypted email created by GPGMail
over the Exchange plugin of Mail.app on Mac OS X:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3632

It would be cool if one of the developers could take a look at it and
give some feedback.

Thanks & sorry for nagging,
Michael

-- 
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From nc at oceantron.com  Sun May 15 18:46:49 2016
From: nc at oceantron.com (Kyle)
Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 12:46:49 -0400
Subject: [Users] Automatic "Processing" of emails
Message-ID: <20160515124649.000018ce@unknown>

Hey Claws devs and users, 

Maybe I've got a blind spot somewhere, but is Claws Mail capable
of running all "processing" rules for folders upon pressing "Get
Mail" or automatic checking for new mail every X minutes?

Is there a way to automatically process emails like that?
Because every time I want the "processing" rules to work, I must 
manually click on the folder itself.

Kyle


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun May 15 19:03:52 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 17:03:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3632] Parse PGP/MIME headers emitted by GPGMail +
	Exchange
In-Reply-To: <bug-3632-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3632-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3632-595-XYFZ4BrFVn@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3632

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
What you describe is against the relevant RFCs (2015, 3156, sections 4 and 5 in
each). I do not think we should encourage this.

I know that the common advice is "be strict with what you send, be accepting
with what you receive", but I feel that is for situations where there are
ambiguities in the standard. This is a pretty clear-cut violation of the RFCs.

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From nick at linicks.net  Sun May 15 19:12:38 2016
From: nick at linicks.net (Nick Warne)
Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 18:12:38 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3632] Parse PGP/MIME headers emitted by GPGMail +
 Exchange
In-Reply-To: <bug-3632-595-XYFZ4BrFVn@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3632-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3632-595-XYFZ4BrFVn@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20160515181238.2d5c65c8@palantirII.linicks.net>

On Sun, 15 May 2016 17:03:52 +0000
noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:

> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3632
> 
> --- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
> What you describe is against the relevant RFCs (2015, 3156, sections
> 4 and 5 in each). I do not think we should encourage this.
> 
> I know that the common advice is "be strict with what you send, be
> accepting with what you receive", but I feel that is for situations
> where there are ambiguities in the standard. This is a pretty
> clear-cut violation of the RFCs.

And typical MS behaviour to get all to adjust to what they want (i.e.
break the standards to get people to change to make it work with what
they want).

Nick
-- 
Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward?  That's the trouble with
time travel, you never can tell."
		-- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun May 15 19:18:08 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 17:18:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3632] Parse PGP/MIME headers emitted by GPGMail +
	Exchange
In-Reply-To: <bug-3632-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3632-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3632-595-h3fEzs6xG3@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3632

--- Comment #2 from Michael Gmelin <freebsd at grem.de> ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> What you describe is against the relevant RFCs (2015, 3156, sections 4 and 5
> in each). I do not think we should encourage this.
> 
> I know that the common advice is "be strict with what you send, be accepting
> with what you receive", but I feel that is for situations where there are
> ambiguities in the standard. This is a pretty clear-cut violation of the
> RFCs.

I agree that we shouldn't encourage this, but unfortunately other clients like
Mail.app and Thunderbird can open, decrypt and verify those e-mails without any
issues. Mutt might as well, didn't test it myself. So there is little incentive
for anyone to correct the source of the problem.

I prefer to encourage people to use encryption over trying to persuade
commercial vendors into fixing their various RFC violations.

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From clifflaine at europe.com  Mon May 16 13:49:39 2016
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 12:49:39 +0100
Subject: [Users] Automated send later?
Message-ID: <20160516124939.5cab95e4@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

Afternoon all

I was wondering if there is anything like SendLater for CM -- i.e., a
way of sending an email at a specified time in the future without
having to be present at one's computer.

Yours

Cliff


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon May 16 14:35:01 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 13:35:01 +0100
Subject: [Users] Automated send later?
In-Reply-To: <20160516124939.5cab95e4@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20160516124939.5cab95e4@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20160516133501.6e116294@kujata>

On Mon, 16 May 2016 12:49:39 +0100
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote: 

> I was wondering if there is anything like SendLater for CM -- i.e.,
> a way of sending an email at a specified time in the future without
> having to be present at one's computer.

Not really. The only thing approaching that, I think, would be
queueing some msgs, and then using the crontab (for example) to
execute `claws-mail --send`.

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon May 16 14:36:25 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 13:36:25 +0100
Subject: [Users] Automatic "Processing" of emails
In-Reply-To: <20160515124649.000018ce@unknown>
References: <20160515124649.000018ce@unknown>
Message-ID: <20160516133625.7d96df4f@kujata>

On Sun, 15 May 2016 12:46:49 -0400
Kyle <nc at oceantron.com> wrote: 

> Because every time I want the "processing" rules to work, I must 
> manually click on the folder itself.

This is how Processing rules work. You want Filtering rules instead.
http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Filtering_%26_Processing_of_Messages#What_is_the_difference_between_Filtering.2C_Folder_Processing.2C_Pre.2FPost-processing.3F

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon May 16 15:11:42 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 13:11:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3632] Parse PGP/MIME headers emitted by GPGMail +
	Exchange
In-Reply-To: <bug-3632-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3632-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3632-595-5rfnqwvLv7@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3632

--- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Well, you're welcome to use the patch yourself, as well as convince any
distribution packagers to include the patch, if you feel that is the right
thing to do. Or, you can request the relevant RFC to be updated, relaxing the
rules about the message structure.

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From clifflaine at europe.com  Mon May 16 15:39:47 2016
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 14:39:47 +0100
Subject: [Users] Automated send later?
In-Reply-To: <20160516133501.6e116294@kujata>
References: <20160516124939.5cab95e4@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20160516133501.6e116294@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160516143947.53000f22@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

On Mon, 16 May 2016 13:35:01 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 16 May 2016 12:49:39 +0100
> Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote: 
> 
> > I was wondering if there is anything like SendLater for CM -- i.e.,
> > a way of sending an email at a specified time in the future without
> > having to be present at one's computer.
> 
> Not really. The only thing approaching that, I think, would be
> queueing some msgs, and then using the crontab (for example) to
> execute `claws-mail --send`.
> 

OK thanks Paul. 

I've just found a GUI for setting up cron jobs which makes this easier.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnome-schedule/

Cliff



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon May 16 16:45:19 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 14:45:19 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3632] Parse PGP/MIME headers emitted by GPGMail +
	Exchange
In-Reply-To: <bug-3632-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3632-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3632-595-O23jj82nq4@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3632

--- Comment #4 from Michael Gmelin <freebsd at grem.de> ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> Well, you're welcome to use the patch yourself, as well as convince any
> distribution packagers to include the patch, if you feel that is the right
> thing to do. Or, you can request the relevant RFC to be updated, relaxing
> the rules about the message structure.

That's great news, thank you!

But seriously, maybe a more general approach to solve such problems would be
helpful? Something like an input filter plugin that can modify the mime
structure of a message (maybe even by configuration?) before it is fed into the
message view.

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From nc at oceantron.com  Mon May 16 16:59:56 2016
From: nc at oceantron.com (Kyle)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 10:59:56 -0400
Subject: [Users] Automatic "Processing" of emails + export/import of
 rules
In-Reply-To: <20160516133625.7d96df4f@kujata>
References: <20160515124649.000018ce@unknown> <20160516133625.7d96df4f@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160516105956.00005200@unknown>

Paul,

I forgot I'd tried using Filtering rules last year and it didn't
seem to work (or I messed up). I have "Filter messages on
receiving" enabled right now, and a filtering rule set up to
route replies from this list to the correct folder. I'll see what
happens as soon as someone replies (to the list or this thread).

Also, is there a way to export processing rules and have them
imported as filtering rules? I'd have to set the account each
filtering rule applies to. I have about over 200 processing rules
across different folders and it'd be a lot of work to convert
all of them manually to filters.

I looked at a few pages (including the one you linked) in the
Claws Mail FAQ but couldn't find the answer to the export/import
question so I'm asking here now.

Thanks,
Kyle


On Mon, 16 May 2016 13:36:25 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 15 May 2016 12:46:49 -0400
> Kyle <nc at oceantron.com> wrote: 
> 
> > Because every time I want the "processing" rules to work, I
> > must manually click on the folder itself.
> 
> This is how Processing rules work. You want Filtering rules
> instead.
> http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Filtering_%26_Processing_of_Messages#What_is_the_difference_between_Filtering.2C_Folder_Processing.2C_Pre.2FPost-processing.3F
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users



From nc at oceantron.com  Mon May 16 17:03:07 2016
From: nc at oceantron.com (Kyle)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 11:03:07 -0400
Subject: [Users] Automatic "Processing" of emails + export/import of
 rules
In-Reply-To: <20160516105956.00005200@unknown>
References: <20160515124649.000018ce@unknown> <20160516133625.7d96df4f@kujata>
 <20160516105956.00005200@unknown>
Message-ID: <20160516110307.00000260@unknown>

and... my reply to you was just filtered to the correct folder,
without clicking on INBOX!

now just need to know about exporting processing rules and
importing them as filtering rules


On Mon, 16 May 2016 10:59:56 -0400
Kyle <nc at oceantron.com> wrote:

> Paul,
> 
> I forgot I'd tried using Filtering rules last year and it
> didn't seem to work (or I messed up). I have "Filter messages
> on receiving" enabled right now, and a filtering rule set up to
> route replies from this list to the correct folder. I'll see
> what happens as soon as someone replies (to the list or this
> thread).
> 
> Also, is there a way to export processing rules and have them
> imported as filtering rules? I'd have to set the account each
> filtering rule applies to. I have about over 200 processing
> rules across different folders and it'd be a lot of work to
> convert all of them manually to filters.
> 
> I looked at a few pages (including the one you linked) in the
> Claws Mail FAQ but couldn't find the answer to the
> export/import question so I'm asking here now.
> 
> Thanks,
> Kyle
> 
> 
> On Mon, 16 May 2016 13:36:25 +0100
> Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 15 May 2016 12:46:49 -0400
> > Kyle <nc at oceantron.com> wrote: 
> > 
> > > Because every time I want the "processing" rules to work, I
> > > must manually click on the folder itself.
> > 
> > This is how Processing rules work. You want Filtering rules
> > instead.
> > http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Filtering_%26_Processing_of_Messages#What_is_the_difference_between_Filtering.2C_Folder_Processing.2C_Pre.2FPost-processing.3F
> > 
> > with regards
> > 
> > Paul
> > _______________________________________________
> > Users mailing list
> > Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users



From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Mon May 16 17:10:30 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 17:10:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] Automated send later?
In-Reply-To: <20160516143947.53000f22@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20160516124939.5cab95e4@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20160516133501.6e116294@kujata>
 <20160516143947.53000f22@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20160516171030.59cb5948@utnubu>

>On Mon, 16 May 2016 13:35:01 +0100 Paul wrote:
>> Not really. The only thing approaching that, I think, would be
>> queueing some msgs, and then using the crontab (for example) to
>> execute `claws-mail --send`.

IIUC this would sent all mails in the "Queue" folder.

A /usr/bin/sendmail replacement that is easy to use, could be used to
send individual mails at different times. I installed msmtp as
sendmail replacement and used it without the need to spend much time in
learning how to do this. Maybe there are better sendmail alternatives,
I don't know.



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon May 16 17:13:44 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 16:13:44 +0100
Subject: [Users] Automatic "Processing" of emails + export/import of
 rules
In-Reply-To: <20160516110307.00000260@unknown>
References: <20160515124649.000018ce@unknown> <20160516133625.7d96df4f@kujata>
 <20160516105956.00005200@unknown> <20160516110307.00000260@unknown>
Message-ID: <20160516161344.223beef0@kujata>

On Mon, 16 May 2016 11:03:07 -0400
Kyle <nc at oceantron.com> wrote: 

> now just need to know about exporting processing rules and
> importing them as filtering rules

You'll have to do it manually, using copy/paste.

Quit claws-mail.
Open ~/.claws-mail/matcherrc

You'll see your processing rules first: the folder name/path,
followed by its processing rules. After all of the processing rules,
you see 3 headings:

[preglobal]

[postglobal]

[filtering]


You want to copy and paste all your processing rules under
[filtering], one per line. Be warned: order is important.
After this remove all the processing rule lines, name/path and
rule(s).

Remember to backup matcherrc first!

 with regards

Paul


From nc at oceantron.com  Mon May 16 17:28:24 2016
From: nc at oceantron.com (Kyle)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 11:28:24 -0400
Subject: [Users] Automatic "Processing" of emails + export/import of
 rules
In-Reply-To: <20160516161344.223beef0@kujata>
References: <20160515124649.000018ce@unknown> <20160516133625.7d96df4f@kujata>
 <20160516105956.00005200@unknown> <20160516110307.00000260@unknown>
 <20160516161344.223beef0@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160516112824.00004025@unknown>

I assume you're referring to the Linux address

I'm on Windows 7, and the matcherrc file is located at
../AppData/Roaming/Claws-mail/

There are two others in that folder: matcherrc.bak and
matcherrc.pre_names
Safe to ignore both?

I'll do a backup of everything first. Thanks for the helpful
instructions.


On Mon, 16 May 2016 16:13:44 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 16 May 2016 11:03:07 -0400
> Kyle <nc at oceantron.com> wrote: 
> 
> > now just need to know about exporting processing rules and
> > importing them as filtering rules
> 
> You'll have to do it manually, using copy/paste.
> 
> Quit claws-mail.
> Open ~/.claws-mail/matcherrc
> 
> You'll see your processing rules first: the folder name/path,
> followed by its processing rules. After all of the processing
> rules, you see 3 headings:
> 
> [preglobal]
> 
> [postglobal]
> 
> [filtering]
> 
> 
> You want to copy and paste all your processing rules under
> [filtering], one per line. Be warned: order is important.
> After this remove all the processing rule lines, name/path and
> rule(s).
> 
> Remember to backup matcherrc first!
> 
>  with regards
> 
> Paul
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users



From osterd at gmx.de  Mon May 16 17:59:56 2016
From: osterd at gmx.de (osterd at gmx.de)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 17:59:56 +0200
Subject: [Users] Feature request: More then 1 alternative dictionary
Message-ID: <20160516175956.531de167@Secure>

> Oops ;)
> 
> I don't write again to correct those typos, just to inform that there
> already is a list available.
> 
> The composer (editor) window's menu provides
> 
> Spelling > Options > ...
> 
> were you can select a dictionary on demand, from a list of dictionaries.

Dear Ralf,
thanks for the response. I know that it is possible to assign dictionaries
ad-hoc from the editor but that is not what I want.

I didn't knew about the assignment per folder but again that's not what I want.
Otherwise I'd need to have multiple folders of the same type but for different
languages.

Right now as I said I had to join dictionaries. So for anybody who might had to
do the same here is what I did for aspell 0.60 without an utf8 charset
installed:

1) Make up a new language name, ideally 2 letters. Eg.: ef as a joint
   Spanish-French dictionary.
2) Uncompress aspell dictionaries that should be joined or take word lists from
   somewhere else.
     aspell -d es dump master | aspell -l es expand | tr ' ' '\n' > es.dict
     aspell -d fr dump master | aspell -l fr expand | tr ' ' '\n' > fr.dict
3) Create a joint word list in iso8859-16 coding.
     cat {es,fr}.dict > ef.dict
     uconf -f `file -ib ef.dict | awk -F"=" '{print $2}'` -t iso8859-16 > \
     ef.dict.fixed
4) Create a language data file.
     sudo cat > /usr/share/aspell/ef.dat << EOF
	name	ef
	charset iso8859-16
	special ' -*-  - -*-  e' ***
	# Convert special symbols to latin1 coding e.g. é to e' and complete the
	# line above with the format "special_character BeginMidEnd" to indicate
	# where this character is allowed within the vocabulary. You'll get
	# errors in the next step if you missed something.
        EOF
4) Compile wordlist to aspell dictionary:
     aspell --lang=ef create master ./ef.rws < ef.dict.fixed
5) "Install the dictionary":
     sudo mv ef.rws /var/lib/aspell
     sudo ln -s /var/lib/aspell/ef.rws /usr/lib/share/aspell/ef.rws
5.1) Create a corresponding multi dictionary. Just necessary for aspell to
   find the dictionary.
     sudo cat > /usr/lib/share/aspell/ef.multi << EOF
        add ef.rws
        EOF

Now test if aspell finds the new dictionary by typing:
    aspell dump dicts
If so, check if the dictionary is properly installed with:
    aspell -l ef -c foobar.txt
for any file foobar.txt.

All paths can be looked up on the current install through:
    aspell config

With that I simply selected in claws mail "ef" as my "first" language and the
"second" dictionary could then be my third language.

Best H.


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Mon May 16 19:25:36 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 19:25:36 +0200
Subject: [Users] Automated send later?
In-Reply-To: <20160516171030.59cb5948@utnubu>
References: <20160516124939.5cab95e4@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20160516133501.6e116294@kujata>
 <20160516143947.53000f22@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20160516171030.59cb5948@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160516192536.2057c45b@utnubu>

On Mon, 16 May 2016 17:10:30 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>On Mon, 16 May 2016 13:35:01 +0100 Paul wrote:  
>>> Not really. The only thing approaching that, I think, would be
>>> queueing some msgs, and then using the crontab (for example) to
>>> execute `claws-mail --send`.  
>
>IIUC this would sent all mails in the "Queue" folder.
>
>A /usr/bin/sendmail replacement that is easy to use, could be used to
>send individual mails at different times. I installed msmtp as
>sendmail replacement and used it without the need to spend much time in
>learning how to do this. Maybe there are better sendmail alternatives,
>I don't know.

I got a reply off-list, that my answer should be off-topic, so I guess
I need to explain more detailed.

Once a mail e.g. is saved as draft, it's possible to get the complete
mail by an action.

Selecting a mail and applying an action with the %f variable could save
the mail ready to send by the msmtp command and e.g. add a cron job.
This requires a short script.

Yes, Claws doesn't provide an option by default, but my guess is, that
giving the hint, how to solve this issue using Claws features isn't
off-topic.

Since I'm short in time, I don't provide a scrip, but hopefully this
hint is helpful.

Regards,
Ralf



From nc at oceantron.com  Tue May 17 04:25:48 2016
From: nc at oceantron.com (Kyle)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 22:25:48 -0400
Subject: [Users] Automatic "Processing" of emails + export/import of
 rules
In-Reply-To: <20160516112824.00004025@unknown>
References: <20160515124649.000018ce@unknown> <20160516133625.7d96df4f@kujata>
 <20160516105956.00005200@unknown> <20160516110307.00000260@unknown>
 <20160516161344.223beef0@kujata> <20160516112824.00004025@unknown>
Message-ID: <20160516222548.000004e0@unknown>

No need to reply, Paul. I got it figured out.

Your time is appreciated.


On Mon, 16 May 2016 11:28:24 -0400
Kyle <nc at oceantron.com> wrote:

> I assume you're referring to the Linux address
> 
> I'm on Windows 7, and the matcherrc file is located at
> ../AppData/Roaming/Claws-mail/
> 
> There are two others in that folder: matcherrc.bak and
> matcherrc.pre_names
> Safe to ignore both?
> 
> I'll do a backup of everything first. Thanks for the helpful
> instructions.
> 
> 
> On Mon, 16 May 2016 16:13:44 +0100
> Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 16 May 2016 11:03:07 -0400
> > Kyle <nc at oceantron.com> wrote: 
> > 
> > > now just need to know about exporting processing rules and
> > > importing them as filtering rules
> > 
> > You'll have to do it manually, using copy/paste.
> > 
> > Quit claws-mail.
> > Open ~/.claws-mail/matcherrc
> > 
> > You'll see your processing rules first: the folder name/path,
> > followed by its processing rules. After all of the processing
> > rules, you see 3 headings:
> > 
> > [preglobal]
> > 
> > [postglobal]
> > 
> > [filtering]
> > 
> > 
> > You want to copy and paste all your processing rules under
> > [filtering], one per line. Be warned: order is important.
> > After this remove all the processing rule lines, name/path
> > and rule(s).
> > 
> > Remember to backup matcherrc first!
> > 
> >  with regards
> > 
> > Paul
> > _______________________________________________
> > Users mailing list
> > Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users



From andrej at kacian.sk  Tue May 17 11:00:33 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 11:00:33 +0200
Subject: [Users] Automated send later?
In-Reply-To: <20160516192536.2057c45b@utnubu>
References: <20160516124939.5cab95e4@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20160516133501.6e116294@kujata>
 <20160516143947.53000f22@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20160516171030.59cb5948@utnubu> <20160516192536.2057c45b@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160517110033.13d34794@hiker>

On Mon, 16 May 2016 19:25:36 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <silver.bullet at zoho.com> wrote:

> Selecting a mail and applying an action with the %f variable could
> save the mail ready to send by the msmtp command and e.g. add a cron
> job. This requires a short script.

Not a good idea. Messages stored as drafts contain internal data in
X-... headers, you probably do not want to send them together with your
message.

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From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Tue May 17 13:26:18 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 13:26:18 +0200
Subject: [Users] Automated send later?
In-Reply-To: <20160517110033.13d34794@hiker>
References: <20160516124939.5cab95e4@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20160516133501.6e116294@kujata>
 <20160516143947.53000f22@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20160516171030.59cb5948@utnubu> <20160516192536.2057c45b@utnubu>
 <20160517110033.13d34794@hiker>
Message-ID: <20160517132618.5cb26727@utnubu>

On Tue, 17 May 2016 11:00:33 +0200, Andrej Kacian wrote:
>On Mon, 16 May 2016 19:25:36 +0200
>Ralf Mardorf <silver.bullet at zoho.com> wrote:
>
>> Selecting a mail and applying an action with the %f variable could
>> save the mail ready to send by the msmtp command and e.g. add a cron
>> job. This requires a short script.  
>
>Not a good idea. Messages stored as drafts contain internal data in
>X-... headers, you probably do not want to send them together with your
>message.

It doesn't seem to be an unsolvable issue ;).



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue May 17 19:36:17 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 17:36:17 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3647] New: Sending mail always complains about SSL
 certificate changing
Message-ID: <bug-3647-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3647

            Bug ID: 3647
           Summary: Sending mail always complains about SSL certificate
                    changing
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.13.2
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: SMTP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: claws-mail at ch.pkts.ca

Our mail is handled by a cluster of servers behind a load balancer.  The SSL
certificates have the name of the server and also the name of the load balancer
as a Server Alternate Name (SAN).  

Because of these things, every time I send an email, I get an error saying that
the cert is invalid (hostname != server name) and would I like to save it for
next time.

Can you fix it so that CM checks the SAN and allows connections if the server
name is on the SAN list?

Also, how do I load our company's CA on the list of trusted CAs?  I couldn't
find this in any menu or preference setting.

Thanks

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue May 17 19:37:23 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 17:37:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3647] Sending mail always complains about SSL
 certificate changing
In-Reply-To: <bug-3647-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3647-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3647-595-0s4izxnNiK@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3647

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Created attachment 1647
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Screenshot

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue May 17 23:36:40 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 21:36:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3647] add support for Subject Alternate Name (SAN)
In-Reply-To: <bug-3647-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3647-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3647-595-FIkirReDsy@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3647

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
          Component|SMTP                        |Other
            Summary|Sending mail always         |add support for Subject
                   |complains about SSL         |Alternate Name (SAN)
                   |certificate changing        |
           Severity|normal                      |enhancement

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed May 18 18:42:37 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 16:42:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3647] add support for Subject Alternate Name (SAN)
In-Reply-To: <bug-3647-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3647-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3647-595-OyUlREkUGY@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3647

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
We already check Subject Alternate Names. Function
gnutls_x509_crt_check_hostname() is used, which does that implicitly.

I just tested a connection against a server which uses a different Subject CN,
and a few SANs, and it worked just fine, server name matching one of the SANs.

You can load your CA to your system's CA list (/etc/ssl for most Linux
distributions).

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From osterd at gmx.de  Fri May 20 11:12:22 2016
From: osterd at gmx.de (osterd at gmx.de)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 11:12:22 +0200
Subject: [Users] Exclamation mark after Inbox
Message-ID: <20160520111222.55de28ce@Secure>

Hey,

can anybody please explain to me what an exclamation mark in brackets after the
Inbox folders means?

I observed it a couple of times now but I could see no clear relation as to
when it occurs. I only found out that it vanishes if I read the most recent
mails.

What does trigger it? I tried searching for it in the documentation but my
search turned up empty most likely because I didn't really knew what to search
for.

Best H.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri May 20 11:15:54 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 10:15:54 +0100
Subject: [Users] Exclamation mark after Inbox
In-Reply-To: <20160520111222.55de28ce@Secure>
References: <20160520111222.55de28ce@Secure>
Message-ID: <20160520101554.43720f1c@kujata>

On Fri, 20 May 2016 11:12:22 +0200
<osterd at gmx.de> wrote: 

> can anybody please explain to me what an exclamation mark in
> brackets after the Inbox folders means?

It indicates that you have unread replies to Marked messages.

with regards

Paul


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Fri May 20 11:17:28 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 11:17:28 +0200
Subject: [Users] Exclamation mark after Inbox
In-Reply-To: <20160520111222.55de28ce@Secure>
References: <20160520111222.55de28ce@Secure>
Message-ID: <1463735848.836.59.camel@zoho.com>

On Fri, 2016-05-20 at 11:12 +0200, osterd at gmx.de wrote:
> can anybody please explain to me what an exclamation mark in brackets
> after the Inbox folders means?

https://www.google.de/?gws_rd=ssl#q=claws+mail+exclamation+mark
http://users.claws-mail.narkive.com/SYU4WyXJ/what-is-an-exclamation-mark
-in-front-of-a-folder



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri May 20 20:35:38 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 18:35:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1491] add option to change sort order within threads
In-Reply-To: <bug-1491-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1491-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1491-595-J7KW6z2Ofm@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1491

--- Comment #1 from Olivier Brunel <jjk at jjacky.com> ---
Created attachment 1648
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Always sort by date ASC within a thread when by thread date

When sorting by date descendingly, it doesn't really make sense to sort
messages
within a thread any other way than ascendingly (regardless of sort order),
since
most will already be done so, due to their parent/children relationship.

So, when sorting by thread date we sort messages within a thread by date
ascendingly, regardless of current sort order.

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From nvx2004 at hotmail.com  Sat May 21 05:54:23 2016
From: nvx2004 at hotmail.com (nvx)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 05:54:23 +0200
Subject: [Users] Cannot connect to SMTP servers via SSL/465
Message-ID: <BLU437-SMTP97DBC557A5D6091E079EA0A94C0@phx.gbl>

Since I am very happy with Claws Mail compared to Thunderbird (mainly
due to its snappiness and low memory consumption), I decided to use CM
also on my other Linux laptop. I moved all the relevant settings by
just copying the config files -- this should not cause any problems, I
think, because the respective username is the same on both machines and
therefore the paths listed in the config files do exist.

However, every time I try to send mail via SSL/465 (no matter the
server) on the second laptop, it fails and the log says that the SSL
handshake has failed. I am sure that all the settings are correct
because on the original laptop it works fine as well as on the second
laptop when using Thunderbird.

I tried to uncheck the "non-blocking SSL" but that did not solve the
problem. I also tried to create some of the offending accounts anew but
saw no improvement either.

Receiving mail via SSL and sending mail via TLS works as expected.
Still, some of the servers which I need to connect to support only
SSL/465 (or unencrypted 25 :/ ).

Is there anything I could try to change in the settings to get the SSL
connection working?

Thanks.

nvx


From andrej at kacian.sk  Sat May 21 09:42:34 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 09:42:34 +0200
Subject: [Users] Cannot connect to SMTP servers via SSL/465
In-Reply-To: <BLU437-SMTP97DBC557A5D6091E079EA0A94C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU437-SMTP97DBC557A5D6091E079EA0A94C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20160521094234.036a5d7e@penny>

On Sat, 21 May 2016 05:54:23 +0200
nvx <nvx2004 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> However, every time I try to send mail via SSL/465 (no matter the
> server) on the second laptop, it fails and the log says that the SSL
> handshake has failed. I am sure that all the settings are correct
> because on the original laptop it works fine as well as on the second
> laptop when using Thunderbird.

Hi, you probably used newer version of Claws Mail on your other system.
Version 3.9.3 you are using now has trouble connecting to some servers
which have disabled SSLv3 protocol in favor of TLSv1 and newer.

I strongly suggest upgrading to at least version 3.11.1, but ideally to
the latest version 3.13.2. If you can not upgrade you should be able use
one of the workarounds described in
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3300#c1

Regards,
-- 
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From nvx2004 at hotmail.com  Sat May 21 10:49:55 2016
From: nvx2004 at hotmail.com (nvx)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 10:49:55 +0200
Subject: [Users] Cannot connect to SMTP servers via SSL/465
In-Reply-To: <20160521094234.036a5d7e@penny>
References: <BLU437-SMTP97DBC557A5D6091E079EA0A94C0@phx.gbl>
 <20160521094234.036a5d7e@penny>
Message-ID: <BLU436-SMTP13081DFA63DD01AA4967472A94C0@phx.gbl>

2016/05/21 09:42, Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk>:

> Hi, you probably used newer version of Claws Mail on your other
> system. Version 3.9.3 you are using now has trouble connecting to
> some servers which have disabled SSLv3 protocol in favor of TLSv1 and
> newer.
> 
> I strongly suggest upgrading to at least version 3.11.1, but ideally
> to the latest version 3.13.2. If you can not upgrade you should be
> able use one of the workarounds described in
> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3300#c1

Great, thank you! Is there any official PPA with 3.13.3? The thing is,
I am running LXLE on the second laptop (it being an older unit)
so doing apt-get update/upgrade, indeed, only provides CM 3.9.3. Thus
I added the team PPA
(https://launchpad.net/~claws-mail/+archive/ubuntu/ppa) into sources
but there the latest version is 3.11.1. CM can send mail now which is a
definite improvement but I'd prefer the latest version if possible. ;)
Is there some official PPA that is updated more often and hence
provides the latest CM?

Thanks again.

nvx


From nick at linicks.net  Sat May 21 11:11:14 2016
From: nick at linicks.net (Nick Warne)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 10:11:14 +0100
Subject: [Users] Cannot connect to SMTP servers via SSL/465
In-Reply-To: <BLU436-SMTP13081DFA63DD01AA4967472A94C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU437-SMTP97DBC557A5D6091E079EA0A94C0@phx.gbl>
 <20160521094234.036a5d7e@penny>
 <BLU436-SMTP13081DFA63DD01AA4967472A94C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20160521101114.04d2b88b@palantirII.linicks.net>

On Sat, 21 May 2016 10:49:55 +0200
nvx <nvx2004 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I strongly suggest upgrading to at least version 3.11.1, but ideally
> > to the latest version 3.13.2. If you can not upgrade you should be
> > able use one of the workarounds described in
> > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3300#c1  
> 
> Great, thank you! Is there any official PPA with 3.13.3? The thing is,
> I am running LXLE on the second laptop (it being an older unit)
> so doing apt-get update/upgrade, indeed, only provides CM 3.9.3. Thus
> I added the team PPA
> (https://launchpad.net/~claws-mail/+archive/ubuntu/ppa) into sources
> but there the latest version is 3.11.1. CM can send mail now which is
> a definite improvement but I'd prefer the latest version if
> possible. ;) Is there some official PPA that is updated more often
> and hence provides the latest CM?

If you can't get the latest CM from your distro, CM is easy to build.

I don't even install it on the system - I just install it in my $HOME
directory.

As the config files are in $HOME/.claws-mail, it should be install and
go.

Basically 'mkdir claws' then configure (with options you need):

./configure --prefix=/home/USERNAME/claws --disable-ipv6
--disable-jpilot --disable-vcalendar-plugin

then 'make install'.

The binary will now be in $HOME/claws/bin/ and it will know where all
the libs etc. are, so no messing with LIB paths etc.

Off you go.

Obviously if the latest version becomes available and you wish to start
using that, just delete the $HOME/claws directory and install the new
one.

Nick
-- 
Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward?  That's the trouble with
time travel, you never can tell."
		-- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat May 21 12:15:45 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 10:15:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3648] New: Failing to verify signatures that has
 signed with more than one key
Message-ID: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3648

            Bug ID: 3648
           Summary: Failing to verify signatures that has signed with more
                    than one key
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.13.2
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Privacy
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: sami at olmari.fi

Created attachment 1649
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Example file to be signed

If I have an mail that is signed with multiple keys, using method similar or
varied from: gpg2 -u key1 -u key2 --clearsign filename, Claws fails to check
signature(s) at all from the message, it will say "unknown error" or "no key
found" (I haven't yet established by what logic which error comes). Gpg itself
can verify keys just fine (with for example: gpg2 --verify filename).

As messages can be signed with multiple keys at one go, Claws should be able to
verify all keys a message is signed with.

I have attached an example file and it's detach-sign file and also clearsigned
version of the file for your convenience. Both keys can be found on
sks-keyservers

https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x7655170609501EF8
and
https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x1F2E80A9EF8AC947

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat May 21 12:16:51 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 10:16:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3648] Failing to verify signatures that has signed
 with more than one key
In-Reply-To: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3648-595-lK4soJ2puX@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3648

--- Comment #1 from Sami Olmari <sami at olmari.fi> ---
Created attachment 1650
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Detach signed file for examplefile

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat May 21 12:17:20 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 10:17:20 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3648] Failing to verify signatures that has signed
 with more than one key
In-Reply-To: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3648-595-Cc6Y3BSDwj@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3648

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Clearsigned version from examplefile

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat May 21 12:31:22 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 10:31:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3648] Failing to verify signatures that has signed
 with more than one key
In-Reply-To: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3648-595-yYd46leZSP@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3648

--- Comment #3 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Attaching a complete msg as an example would be more useful

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat May 21 12:34:56 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 10:34:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3648] Failing to verify signatures that has signed
 with more than one key
In-Reply-To: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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Created attachment 1652
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat May 21 12:44:15 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 10:44:15 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3648] Failing to verify signatures that has signed
 with more than one key
In-Reply-To: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat May 21 12:56:40 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 10:56:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3648] Failing to verify signatures that has signed
 with more than one key
In-Reply-To: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3648-595-OaoOqVArQu@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3648

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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         Resolution|---                         |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #5 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Works fine for me using gpg2 in Claws Mail.

It will fail if you use gpg (rather than gpg2) because:

"Can't check signature: unknown pubkey algorithm"

Make sure you have configured Claws Mail to use gpg2 rather than gpg in
/Configuration/Preferences/Plugins/GPG, 'Path to GnuPG executable'.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat May 21 12:57:31 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 10:57:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3648] Failing to verify signatures that has signed
 with more than one key
In-Reply-To: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3648

--- Comment #6 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Created attachment 1653
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat May 21 13:12:21 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 11:12:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3648] Failing to verify signatures that has signed
 with more than one key
In-Reply-To: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3648-595-A9y2rJOcHX@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

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Sami Olmari <sami at olmari.fi> changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Sami Olmari <sami at olmari.fi> ---
But gpg(1) can resolve the rsa key used in message just fine, even when there
exist the ed25519 that is "unknown pubkey algorithm":

gpg --verify gpg-dual-sign.sig gpg-dual-sign
gpg: Signature made la 21. toukokuuta 2016 12.34.16 EEST
gpg:                using ? key 0xAC5E3C41AC86CC36
gpg: Can't check signature: unknown pubkey algorithm
gpg: Signature made la 21. toukokuuta 2016 12.34.16 EEST
gpg:                using RSA key 0x32FEBC47F4EC92E4
gpg: Good signature from "Sami Olmari <sami at olmari.fi>" [ultimate]
gpg:                 aka "Sami Olmari <olmari at kapsi.fi>" [ultimate]
gpg:                 aka "Sami Olmari <olmari at netikka.fi>" [ultimate]
gpg:                 aka "[jpeg image of size 4394]" [ultimate]

Does Claws check only the first key and be happy with that result? instead of
both (or all) keys? This might be the culprit and also the original issue would
still exist, not checking all the keys that message is signed with :)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat May 21 13:14:48 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 11:14:48 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3648] Failing to verify signatures that has signed
 with more than one key
In-Reply-To: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3648-595-8am3mEqy3L@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3648

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--- Comment #8 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
No, it bails out when it encounters an error.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat May 21 13:36:15 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 11:36:15 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3648] Reports error on first unverifiable signature on
 message that has been signed with more than one key
In-Reply-To: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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         Resolution|WORKSFORME                  |---
            Summary|Failing to verify           |Reports error on first
                   |signatures that has signed  |unverifiable signature on
                   |with more than one key      |message that has been
                   |                            |signed with more than one
                   |                            |key

--- Comment #9 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
On further testing, if the first signature cannot be verified, then Claws Mail
reports an error, regardless of the verification of the 2nd signature.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat May 21 13:45:14 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 11:45:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3648] Reports error on first unverifiable signature on
 message that has been signed with more than one key
In-Reply-To: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3648-595-DNszWWhf2n@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3648

--- Comment #10 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
This would need rethinking how we handle and display signature status. It is
easy enough to walk through all the signatures in
sgpgme_sigstat_gpgme_to_privacy() via sig->next, but in the end, it returns a
single signature status.

One way could be to make the function return a pointer to a linked list of
"signature statuses", each of which would contain identifying string and
SignatureStatus. The UI could then walk through the list, and say something
like "X of Y signatures valid, click for details".

Just thinking aloud here. :)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat May 21 14:35:44 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 12:35:44 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3648] Reports error on first unverifiable signature on
 message that has been signed with more than one key
In-Reply-To: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3648-595-exwKQujxpU@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3648

--- Comment #11 from Sami Olmari <sami at olmari.fi> ---
Glad you talked out loud, Andrej :) Those methods would sound sane way to
achieve this, should this ever be implemented. Sadly I can only provide you
with this and no ready code, but this indeed kind of is a bug, or defiency of a
sort currently. While I also realise mine method of using keys is widely
uncommon, it still is possible, so why not ;)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat May 21 14:47:11 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 12:47:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3648] Reports error on first unverifiable signature on
 message that has been signed with more than one key
In-Reply-To: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3648-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3648-595-14XDRMQSBT@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3648

--- Comment #12 from Sami Olmari <sami at olmari.fi> ---
When I wondered this issue (especially with exist status relating to "one
working key" situation, someone at #gnupg suggested that:

< K_F> for one thing you shouldn't look at return code if using gpg, you'd need
to use gpgv in an automated setting if return code is important
< K_F> but would need to look at status-fd and properly consider key validity
etc
< K_F> (to elaborate, you should look at return code, but not to determine
signature validity)

if this would be any help in general with gpg implementation more videly even
outside this bug.

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From nick at linicks.net  Sat May 21 15:44:54 2016
From: nick at linicks.net (Nick Warne)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 14:44:54 +0100
Subject: [Users] Bogofilter mistake - how to revert
Message-ID: <20160521144454.6ae61574@palantirII.linicks.net>

Hi all,

How do I revert if accidentally marking a mail as Spam when it isn't
(which seems to be undo-able if you mark spam to be deleted)?

Also I looked for spamlist.db and hamlist.db, but it seems CM doesn't
use that format?

Thanks,

Nick
-- 
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time travel, you never can tell."
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From nick at linicks.net  Sat May 21 15:53:49 2016
From: nick at linicks.net (Nick Warne)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 14:53:49 +0100
Subject: [Users] Size of binary built from source - not stripped
Message-ID: <20160521145349.64cb7f6d@palantirII.linicks.net>

I just noticed that building from source, the bianry install is not
stripped.

Not that it makes much difference to the speed of operation of Claws
(blazing fast), it must make some difference:

ls -lsa progs/claws/bin/
12436 -rwxr-xr-x 1 n1ck users 12733660 May 21 11:19 claws-mail

strip progs/claws/bin/claws-mail

ls -lsa progs/claws/bin/
3684 -rwxr-xr-x 1 n1ck users 3771096 May 21 14:47 claws-mail

Surely only devs need an unstripped binary?

Nick
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time travel, you never can tell."
		-- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"


From nick at linicks.net  Sat May 21 16:04:22 2016
From: nick at linicks.net (Nick Warne)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 15:04:22 +0100
Subject: [Users] Size of binary built from source - not stripped
In-Reply-To: <20160521145349.64cb7f6d@palantirII.linicks.net>
References: <20160521145349.64cb7f6d@palantirII.linicks.net>
Message-ID: <20160521150422.2c6a16a9@palantirII.linicks.net>

On Sat, 21 May 2016 14:53:49 +0100
Nick Warne <nick at linicks.net> wrote:

> I just noticed that building from source, the bianry install is not
> stripped.

OK, ignore this:

*I MUST PAY ATTENTION*

From:

https://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/html_node/Standard-Targets.html

the standard is:

make install-strip

Sorry for the noise.

Nick
-- 
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time travel, you never can tell."
		-- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"


From john_serink at trimble.com  Sat May 21 17:34:09 2016
From: john_serink at trimble.com (John Serink)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 23:34:09 +0800
Subject: [Users] Claws mail connection to gmail
Message-ID: <20160521153409.5779541.41043.296@trimble.com>


  Original Message  

Hello All:

To get this to work I had to generate a google apps password for
claws-email and use this rather than my email password to connect. It
has something to do with the fact that I enabled 2 factor
authentication and that won't work with devices.

it seems after I left my machine for a few hours that claws 'forgot'
the password as it kept asking for one...
So I had to revoke the old one and issue a new one which I wrote down
so if it happens again, I've got it.

Anyhow, my question has to do with the folders after the gmail
connection came up. Gmail created its own folder in the folder tree
from Claws and under the gmail folder is:
All Mail,
Drafts,
Important,
Sent Mail,
Spam,
Starred,
Trash.

Does anyone know how to get gmail to use the same folders as claws?
Its a bit messy as is.

Cheers,
John 

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Advanced Positioning 
Trimble Navigation Singapore PTE Ltd. 
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From john_serink at trimble.com  Sat May 21 17:35:00 2016
From: john_serink at trimble.com (John Serink)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 23:35:00 +0800
Subject: [Users] Importing of pst files into claws
Message-ID: <20160521153500.5779541.60832.298@trimble.com>


  Original Message  

Hi All:

I have been experimenting with readpst and got it to work with a
relatively simple pst file I have that had just two folders, inBoz and
Sent. I converted it like this:
readpst -D -M -r -o Zmail2007 PersonalFolders2007.pst

It created the following:
├── Zmail2007
│   └── Personal Folders2007
│   ├── InBox
│   │   └── mbox
│   └── SentItems
│   └── mbox

So, I created a new mailbox called 2007 and I imported this guy:
├── Zmail2007
│   └── Personal Folders2007
│   ├── InBox
│   │   └── mbox
To the new inbox folder and this guy:
├── Zmail2007
│   └── Personal Folders2007
│   └── SentItems
│   └── mbox
To the new sent items folder.
The only hiccups were that some email addresses that outlook had
replaced with alias did not show up, just the alias did. All the
attachments are there, its all good.

Problem is, the next folder I want to bring over has over 200 folders
in it and it will create an mbox file for each folder which means I'd
have to create a new mailbox and manually create everyone of the 200
folders and manually import each one.....
That will take weeks....
Someone else must have already crossed this bridge. Any ideas on how to
automate this?

Cheers,
John 




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Trimble Navigation Singapore PTE Ltd. 
80 Marine Parade Road, 
Co. Reg. No. 199204958W 
#22-06 Parkway Parade 
Singapore 449269 
Tel 65-6348-2212 
Fax 65-6348-2232 
DID 65-6348-2178 
HP 65-9129-4250
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From nick at linicks.net  Sat May 21 17:36:45 2016
From: nick at linicks.net (Nick Warne)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 16:36:45 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws mail connection to gmail
In-Reply-To: <20160521153409.5779541.41043.296@trimble.com>
References: <20160521153409.5779541.41043.296@trimble.com>
Message-ID: <20160521163645.3bb66f14@palantirII.linicks.net>

On Sat, 21 May 2016 23:34:09 +0800
John Serink <john_serink at trimble.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know how to get gmail to use the same folders as claws?
> Its a bit messy as is.

I just configured gmail to forward messages to my main email account
that claws checks.

You can forget all about gmail then.

Nick
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time travel, you never can tell."
		-- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sat May 21 17:40:30 2016
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 16:40:30 +0100
Subject: [Users] Bogofilter mistake - how to revert
In-Reply-To: <20160521144454.6ae61574@palantirII.linicks.net>
References: <20160521144454.6ae61574@palantirII.linicks.net>
Message-ID: <20160521164030.56528e61@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Sat, 21 May 2016 14:44:54 +0100
Nick Warne <nick at linicks.net> wrote:

Hello Nick,

>How do I revert if accidentally marking a mail as Spam when it isn't
>(which seems to be undo-able if you mark spam to be deleted)?

If you delete the spam, rather than send it to a waste (trash) folder
then yes, I believe it can't be undone.  I would always suggest sending
spam to a trash folder for that reason.  That way, you can select the
message and the "Mark as Spam" button in the toolbar (if you have it
loaded) automatically turns into a "Mark as Ham" button.  Otherwise, use
the Message menu / Mark -> appropriately.

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        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
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From nick at linicks.net  Sat May 21 18:00:41 2016
From: nick at linicks.net (Nick Warne)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 17:00:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] Bogofilter mistake - how to revert
In-Reply-To: <20160521164030.56528e61@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20160521144454.6ae61574@palantirII.linicks.net>
 <20160521164030.56528e61@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20160521170041.3afafe26@palantirII.linicks.net>

Hi Brad,

On Sat, 21 May 2016 16:40:30 +0100
Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> If you delete the spam, rather than send it to a waste (trash) folder
> then yes, I believe it can't be undone.  I would always suggest
> sending spam to a trash folder for that reason.  That way, you can
> select the message and the "Mark as Spam" button in the toolbar (if
> you have it loaded) automatically turns into a "Mark as Ham" button.
> Otherwise, use the Message menu / Mark -> appropriately.

Thanks, just sorted that - but reading the bogofilter man pages etc, it
mentions spamlist.db and hamlist.db - so I was wondering if 'lost'
mails end up there, but these files don't exist on my system after
installing bogofilter for claws to use.

Nick
-- 
Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward?  That's the trouble with
time travel, you never can tell."
		-- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"


From myetto1 at nycap.rr.com  Sat May 21 18:21:07 2016
From: myetto1 at nycap.rr.com (Michael A. Yetto)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 12:21:07 -0400
Subject: [Users] Claws mail connection to gmail
In-Reply-To: <20160521153409.5779541.41043.296@trimble.com>
References: <20160521153409.5779541.41043.296@trimble.com>
Message-ID: <20160521122107.7c7ac53e@braetac>

On Sat, 21 May 2016 23:34:09 +0800
John Serink <john_serink at trimble.com> wrote:

>  Original Message  
>
>Hello All:
>
>To get this to work I had to generate a google apps password for
>claws-email and use this rather than my email password to connect. It
>has something to do with the fact that I enabled 2 factor
>authentication and that won't work with devices.
>
>it seems after I left my machine for a few hours that claws 'forgot'
>the password as it kept asking for one...
>So I had to revoke the old one and issue a new one which I wrote down
>so if it happens again, I've got it.
>
>Anyhow, my question has to do with the folders after the gmail
>connection came up. Gmail created its own folder in the folder tree
>from Claws and under the gmail folder is:
>All Mail,
>Drafts,
>Important,
>Sent Mail,
>Spam,
>Starred,
>Trash.
>
>Does anyone know how to get gmail to use the same folders as claws?
>Its a bit messy as is.

Setup the GMail account as Pop3 rather than IMAP and the mail/can will
be sent to the same inbox as the other POP3 accounts.

Mike Yetto
-- 
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something is true."
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From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Sat May 21 18:43:59 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 18:43:59 +0200
Subject: [Users] Bogofilter mistake - how to revert
In-Reply-To: <20160521170041.3afafe26@palantirII.linicks.net>
References: <20160521144454.6ae61574@palantirII.linicks.net>
 <20160521164030.56528e61@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20160521170041.3afafe26@palantirII.linicks.net>
Message-ID: <20160521184359.1192721d@utnubu>

On Sat, 21 May 2016 17:00:41 +0100, Nick Warne wrote:
>reading the bogofilter man pages etc, it mentions spamlist.db and
>hamlist.db - so I was wondering if 'lost' mails end up there, but
>these files don't exist on my system after installing bogofilter for
>claws to use.

I don't have exactly those files, but

$ ls -Gg .bogofilter/
total 9556
-rw-r--r-- 1  286720 May 21 18:28 __db.001
-rw-r--r-- 1  294912 May 21 18:28 __db.002
-rw-r--r-- 1 5135296 May 21 18:28 __db.003
-rw-r--r-- 1       0 Feb 21  2013 lockfile-d
-rw-r--r-- 1    1024 May 21 18:28 lockfile-p
-rw-r--r-- 1 1048576 May 20 17:46 log.0000000043
-rw-r--r-- 1 4452352 May 20 17:46 wordlist.db

and those files seem to be related to spam, I e.g. marked
avaaz.org mails as spam and the current petition is mentioned by the
subject

$ strings .bogofilter/__db.001 | grep puppy
stop_the_puppy_slaughter_loc+
$ strings .bogofilter/__db.001 | grep -i hundefleisch
subj:Hundefleisch-Festival+
$ strings .bogofilter/wordlist.db | grep avaaz.org | tail
rcvd:mta111.avaaz.org
rcvd:mta110.avaaz.org
rcvd:mta109.avaaz.org
rcvd:mta107.avaaz.org
rcvd:mta104.avaaz.org
rcvd:mta102.avaaz.org
rcvd:mta101.avaaz.org
secure.avaaz.org
avaazimages.avaaz.org
avaaz.org

Regards,
Ralf



From andrej at kacian.sk  Sat May 21 19:18:00 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 19:18:00 +0200
Subject: [Users] Importing of pst files into claws
In-Reply-To: <20160521153500.5779541.60832.298@trimble.com>
References: <20160521153500.5779541.60832.298@trimble.com>
Message-ID: <20160521191800.5fb44f28@penny>

On Sat, 21 May 2016 23:35:00 +0800
John Serink <john_serink at trimble.com> wrote:

> Problem is, the next folder I want to bring over has over 200 folders
> in it and it will create an mbox file for each folder which means I'd
> have to create a new mailbox and manually create everyone of the 200
> folders and manually import each one.....
> That will take weeks....
> Someone else must have already crossed this bridge. Any ideas on how to
> automate this?

The convert_mbox.pl script, from Claws Mail tools directory might help
you - it converts a mbox file to a MH folder, which can then simply be
read by Claws Mail.

Regards
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From rpi4cmech at gmail.com  Mon May 23 01:19:34 2016
From: rpi4cmech at gmail.com (Ben Ritchey)
Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 18:19:34 -0500
Subject: [Users] Notification
Message-ID: <20160522181934.2d472e7f@RPi4cMech>


I cannot get Claws to notify me via external command when I have new
mail. Tried default preferences and Notification plugin, but no joy. Any
ideas where to look/test/anything? I am specifying:
aplay /path/name.wav (as the command). command works fine from any
terminal. I am using Claws-mail 3.11.1 for armhf :)

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From andrej at kacian.sk  Mon May 23 01:49:53 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 01:49:53 +0200
Subject: [Users] Notification
In-Reply-To: <20160522181934.2d472e7f@RPi4cMech>
References: <20160522181934.2d472e7f@RPi4cMech>
Message-ID: <20160523014953.5ea390c5@penny>

On Sun, 22 May 2016 18:19:34 -0500
Ben Ritchey <rpi4cmech at gmail.com> wrote:

> I cannot get Claws to notify me via external command when I have new
> mail. Tried default preferences and Notification plugin, but no joy. Any
> ideas where to look/test/anything? I am specifying:
> aplay /path/name.wav (as the command). command works fine from any
> terminal. I am using Claws-mail 3.11.1 for armhf :)

A good starting point would be running claws-mail with --debug switch
in a terminal, and watching the output when the external command is
supposed to run.

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From rpi4cmech at gmail.com  Mon May 23 17:51:16 2016
From: rpi4cmech at gmail.com (Ben Ritchey)
Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 10:51:16 -0500
Subject: [Users] Notification
Message-ID: <20160523105116.53187185@RPi4cMech>

Ok, I tried the --debug option but I'm not a linux guru and did not see
anything about executing an external command or errors per se either. :(

Anyway to save the scrollback buffer and mail to someone? who?

Running Raspbian Jesse on a Raspberry Pi 3B fyi

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon May 23 17:56:45 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 16:56:45 +0100
Subject: [Users] Notification
In-Reply-To: <20160523105116.53187185@RPi4cMech>
References: <20160523105116.53187185@RPi4cMech>
Message-ID: <20160523165645.10f287b3@kujata>

On Mon, 23 May 2016 10:51:16 -0500
Ben Ritchey <rpi4cmech at gmail.com> wrote: 

> Ok, I tried the --debug option but I'm not a linux guru and did not
> see anything about executing an external command or errors per se
> either. :(

You will see something like this:

inc.c:1440:executing new mail notification command: play /home/claws/you_rang.wav
utils.c:3296:execute_command_line(): executing: play /home/claws/you_rang.wav
play FAIL formats: can't open input file `/home/claws/you_rang.wav': No such file or directory


This is using the standard option, not the notification plugin.

with regards

Paul


From lfisk at iserv.net  Mon May 23 19:18:27 2016
From: lfisk at iserv.net (Leon Fisk)
Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 13:18:27 -0400
Subject: [Users] Notification
In-Reply-To: <20160522181934.2d472e7f@RPi4cMech>
References: <20160522181934.2d472e7f@RPi4cMech>
Message-ID: <201605231718.u4NHISvf024710@mail6.iserv.net>

On Sun, 22 May 2016 18:19:34 -0500
Ben Ritchey <rpi4cmech at gmail.com> wrote:

>I cannot get Claws to notify me via external command when I have new
>mail. Tried default preferences and Notification plugin, but no joy. Any
>ideas where to look/test/anything? I am specifying:
>aplay /path/name.wav (as the command). command works fine from any
>terminal. I am using Claws-mail 3.11.1 for armhf :)
>

I use the Notification plug in. Similar to what you want to do. I run
an external command "espeak". I attached a couple screen
shots with my settings.

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From rpi4cmech at gmail.com  Mon May 23 21:01:04 2016
From: rpi4cmech at gmail.com (Ben Ritchey)
Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 14:01:04 -0500
Subject: [Users] Notification glitch
Message-ID: <20160523140104.3a7edf91@RPi4cMech>

I figured out part of the problem, when I receive new email (coming via
imap from gmail) claws-mail flags it as unread only, NOT NEW! I made
sure I sent a unique message to test and it always skips the new flag.

Any way to fix this? Config looks fine to me :)

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon May 23 21:04:18 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 20:04:18 +0100
Subject: [Users] Notification glitch
In-Reply-To: <20160523140104.3a7edf91@RPi4cMech>
References: <20160523140104.3a7edf91@RPi4cMech>
Message-ID: <20160523200418.7359da4c@kujata>

On Mon, 23 May 2016 14:01:04 -0500
Ben Ritchey <rpi4cmech at gmail.com> wrote: 

> I figured out part of the problem, when I receive new email (coming
> via imap from gmail) claws-mail flags it as unread only, NOT NEW! I
> made sure I sent a unique message to test and it always skips the
> new flag.
> 
> Any way to fix this? Config looks fine to me :)

Unfortunately it's not Claws Mail that flags it as unread, not new.
It's gmail IMAP which ignores the standards and does not recognise or
flag mails as new. For gmail imap there is only read or unread.

with regards

Paul


From nick at linicks.net  Mon May 23 22:17:26 2016
From: nick at linicks.net (Nick Warne)
Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 21:17:26 +0100
Subject: [Users] Notification glitch
In-Reply-To: <20160523200418.7359da4c@kujata>
References: <20160523140104.3a7edf91@RPi4cMech>
 <20160523200418.7359da4c@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160523211726.316ee247@palantirII.linicks.net>

On Mon, 23 May 2016 20:04:18 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 23 May 2016 14:01:04 -0500
> Ben Ritchey <rpi4cmech at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> > I figured out part of the problem, when I receive new email (coming
> > via imap from gmail) claws-mail flags it as unread only, NOT NEW! I
> > made sure I sent a unique message to test and it always skips the
> > new flag.
> > 
> > Any way to fix this? Config looks fine to me :)  
> 
> Unfortunately it's not Claws Mail that flags it as unread, not new.
> It's gmail IMAP which ignores the standards and does not recognise or
> flag mails as new. For gmail imap there is only read or unread.

I just tested this - just configure gmail to forward mail to your claws
account.

If you need to reply, then use then gmail webmail account.

It stops all the hassle.

Nick
-- 
Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward?  That's the trouble with
time travel, you never can tell."
		-- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"


From jseymour at LinxNet.com  Tue May 24 12:44:52 2016
From: jseymour at LinxNet.com (Jim Seymour)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 06:44:52 -0400
Subject: [Users] Notification glitch
In-Reply-To: <20160523200418.7359da4c@kujata>
References: <20160523140104.3a7edf91@RPi4cMech>
 <20160523200418.7359da4c@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160524064452.56af25bc@win0091>

On Mon, 23 May 2016 20:04:18 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]
> 
> Unfortunately it's not Claws Mail that flags it as unread, not new.
> It's gmail IMAP which ignores the standards and does not recognise or
> flag mails as new. For gmail imap there is only read or unread.

Has anybody bothered to bug-report this to Google?

Regards,
Jim
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From jerry at seibercom.net  Tue May 24 13:02:23 2016
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 07:02:23 -0400
Subject: [Users] Notification glitch
In-Reply-To: <20160524064452.56af25bc@win0091>
References: <20160523140104.3a7edf91@RPi4cMech>
 <20160523200418.7359da4c@kujata> <20160524064452.56af25bc@win0091>
Message-ID: <20160524070223.00004c02@seibercom.net>

On Tue, 24 May 2016 06:44:52 -0400, Jim Seymour stated:

>Has anybody bothered to bug-report this to Google?

I assume you meant that as a joke. Google doesn't care abut its users,
it is just interested in how much revenue it can generate. Haven't you
ever noticed that a users email sent to a mail forum such as
claws-mail is not echoed back like it is done with other email
providers. That is just for starters.

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From rpi4cmech at gmail.com  Tue May 24 14:30:10 2016
From: rpi4cmech at gmail.com (Ben Ritchey)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 07:30:10 -0500
Subject: [Users] Notification glitch fixed!
Message-ID: <20160524073010.538dfefa@RPi4cMech>

I got lucky, changed Gmail from IMAP to Pop3 and it works now :)

Thanks all for the help!

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue May 24 21:54:26 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 19:54:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2227] Implement some way of asynchroneous processing
 of imap actions
In-Reply-To: <bug-2227-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2227-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2227-595-EgXaenSYKE@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2227

--- Comment #8 from Marcel <mg.degroot at openmailbox.org> ---
Also voting for this one. Compared to for instance Thunderbird it is the most
notable difference that makes working with Claws sometimes annoying.

(but it is also one of the very few negative differences ;))

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From malick.faye at openmailbox.org  Tue May 24 22:59:51 2016
From: malick.faye at openmailbox.org (Malick Faye)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 20:59:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] S/Mime send "Cannot sign" error
Message-ID: <20160524205951.00001e3f@openmailbox.org>

Hi , I'm a newbie with encryption tools.

I have install Gpg4win 2.3.1 with Kleopatra
It runs obviously on Windows (7 exactly).
I do have 2 mails with their certificates.
Kleopatra even recognises them and put the parent 
as "Trusted root certificate".

BUT, Claws 3.13.2 send the error [S/Mime: "Cannot sign, Non trouvé (27)]


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri May 27 15:14:00 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 13:14:00 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3649] New: Fancy plugin does not work
Message-ID: <bug-3649-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3649

            Bug ID: 3649
           Summary: Fancy plugin does not work
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.13.2
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Fancy
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: mozga at trimen.pl

I noticed that recent version of Fancy plugin provided with 3.13.2 doesn`t
work. I tested on Arch-based manjaro and on Debian testing branch. It displays
nothing or some old stuff from cache or something like that.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri May 27 15:24:01 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 13:24:01 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3649] Fancy plugin does not work
In-Reply-To: <bug-3649-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3649-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3649-595-yYn92TXZjz@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3649

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 3644 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri May 27 15:24:01 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 13:24:01 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3644] Fancy renders blank page for most html emails
 when using shared-mime-info 1.6
In-Reply-To: <bug-3644-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3644-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3644-595-TfP7a28zTj@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3644

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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                 CC|                            |mozga at trimen.pl

--- Comment #4 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
*** Bug 3649 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun May 29 01:33:15 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 23:33:15 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3031] Go to Inbox does nothing
In-Reply-To: <bug-3031-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3031-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3031-595-o6q8U7cNsK@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3031

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #4 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
(In reply to comment #2)
> It was not clear to me that 'Go to Inbox' meant 'Go to Inbox if new mail is
> in Inbox'. 

Well, the checkbox is placed within "After receiving new mail" section, so
naturally it means just that.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun May 29 01:34:38 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 23:34:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3521] Mbox import from Thunderbird crashes on
	completion
In-Reply-To: <bug-3521-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3521-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3521-595-K8iWb7poC9@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3521

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #6 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
No response, looks like the crash is indeed fixed. Feel free to reopen if that
is not the case.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun May 29 01:37:32 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 23:37:32 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3520] Run command doesn't execute
In-Reply-To: <bug-3520-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3520-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3520-595-BfdWyNcPYY@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3520

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
This works for me in 3.13.2, e.g. I choose to run "notepad.exe" after manual
receive, and I get an empty notepad window when I manually check mail.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun May 29 19:52:06 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 17:52:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3392] CRAM-MD5 doesn't work
In-Reply-To: <bug-3392-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3392-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3392-595-AaTjY2ufDF@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3392

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

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         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
This currently doesn't work on Windows for IMAP and NNTP, because our build of
libetpan (the middleware library we use for these protocols) does not have SASL
support compiled in.

Fortunately, I have figured out how to do it, after overcoming the biggest
roadblock - building cyrus-sasl and its plugins - so next Windows release will
have this working, as well as SCRAM-SHA1 and DIGEST-MD5.

See commit
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws-win32-installer.git;a=commitdiff;h=0790661d3c25ea558f6f053d343dba158488bcd6

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun May 29 23:47:43 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 21:47:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2668] claws freezes whenever it encounters POP3 error
 while hidden in notification area
In-Reply-To: <bug-2668-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2668-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2668-595-W2fHUX7vFR@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2668

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

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         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #5 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
I can not reproduce this in latest version (3.13.2), closing. Feel free to
reopen if it is still an issue for you.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun May 29 23:50:14 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 21:50:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2467] Selective downloading based on age
In-Reply-To: <bug-2467-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2467-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2467-595-NxUb1jASM5@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2467

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun May 29 23:52:18 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 21:52:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2959] Initial wizard stuck on endless loop
In-Reply-To: <bug-2959-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2959-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2959-595-RnHOkOCedb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2959

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Feel free to reopen this bug if this still happens with the latest release.

Setting to run the app as administrator should never be a solution, but rather
a security risk.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon May 30 15:57:24 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 13:57:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2802] Display headers in message view when rendering
	with Fancy
In-Reply-To: <bug-2802-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2802-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2802-595-sLKASaRhEZ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2802

--- Comment #9 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
(In reply to comment #6)

> I've had a private email talk with someone who was asking almost the same
> thing but this time showing exactly the same header information of the text
> message.
> I've been working on a patch and it's almost done, but due to time leak
> that's not yet ready.
> With that patch the header will behave the same way as in text messages.

That would indeed be an ideal solution, I seem to remember that we discussed
such solution a while back. Is there any progress with the patch? :)

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From codejodler at gmx.ch  Mon May 30 23:33:18 2016
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 23:33:18 +0200
Subject: [Users] Ghost emails / very strange POP behavior
Message-ID: <20160530233318.495939e2.codejodler@gmx.ch>

Hello,

I'm using claws with different devices, mainly PC and laptop.

My usual mail custom is to download via POP to my PC, and have all mails deleted on the providers server. On the road, using my laptop, i download via POP too but do not delete. (The reason is rare internet connection.)

Now this happens: 4 days ago, someone sent me a mail which i read on the road. The mail should have been kept at server, undeleted. We exchanged some 2 more mails.

Yesterday, i arrived at home and downloaded all mails the usual way. Because i was really busy, didn't recognize that the above mails did not appear in my claws inbox ! Just the usual way, i POPed my mails several time this evening. I repeat, that should also delete all mails at server.

Todoay, being in another place, i even logged in by webmail (using firefox) and found some 3 mails, but did not see the ones in question. There's no way i could have overlooked them !

Later that day, at home again, i POPed my mails the usual way to my PC again, and THIS time some mails went in: The original mail sent by my friend, and her answer ! (My intermediate answer written from my laptop got stored there, so that's ok). Also, a new reply to that last answer, just from today.

I am totally stunned how this works out !

Maybe the new answer triggered something. But how could those original mails be NOT downloaded to my PC, and the same time be NOT visible in the webmailer, and THEN drop in some days later ???


My best gess is they DID went in but somehow got 'lost' or hidden by claws; abd then, with the new reply, suddenly became visible again ?

That's why i'm asking you. Is it possible ? WHAT would be possible at all here ?

I asked the provider (it's Berlin posteo.de, a sound address) the same question, waiting for answer. 

Please tell me your ideas !




From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Tue May 31 09:43:18 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 09:43:18 +0200
Subject: [Users] Ghost emails / very strange POP behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160530233318.495939e2.codejodler@gmx.ch>
References: <20160530233318.495939e2.codejodler@gmx.ch>
Message-ID: <20160531094318.34dc4f46@utnubu>

On Mon, 30 May 2016 23:33:18 +0200, Michael wrote:
>Please tell me your ideas !

You didn't mention what version of Claws you're using, however, I guess
it doesn't matter, since this most likely is an issue caused by your
ISP.

I'm using POP accounts only. I send and receive mails using Claws and
send and receive mails using Evolution, but only Evolution deletes the
mails from the server.

Years ago this approach without Claws being involved sometimes caused
issues for mailing lists, bizarre, since it were not the common mailing
list issues, duplicated mails, DKIM ..., I don't remember what exactly
didn't work correctly. However, I didn't experience an issue with this
approach since years.

Regards,
Ralf



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue May 31 09:57:22 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 08:57:22 +0100
Subject: [Users] Ghost emails / very strange POP behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160530233318.495939e2.codejodler@gmx.ch>
References: <20160530233318.495939e2.codejodler@gmx.ch>
Message-ID: <20160531085722.5d8aa4d3@kujata>

On Mon, 30 May 2016 23:33:18 +0200
Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote: 

> My best gess is they DID went in but somehow got 'lost' or hidden
> by claws; abd then, with the new reply, suddenly became visible
> again ?
> 
> That's why i'm asking you. Is it possible ? WHAT would be possible
> at all here ?

In Claws Mail, when you elect to leave mails on the server, Claws
Mail keeps a list of UIDLs (unique identifiers) in a file
~/.claws-mail/uidl/ named [SERVER]-[EMAIL ADDRESS]. This is how it
knows what it's already got, and when to remove them from the server.

It is not possible for Claws Mail to hide messages on the server from
other clients, (including webmail).

with regards

Paul


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Tue May 31 14:18:28 2016
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 14:18:28 +0200
Subject: [Users] Ghost emails / very strange POP behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160531094318.34dc4f46@utnubu>
References: <20160530233318.495939e2.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531094318.34dc4f46@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160531141828.2f5ea9e3.codejodler@gmx.ch>

Paul,

This is what i assumed. I just wanted to hear a qualified opinion. Now i'm left with the ISPs answer, but really, i wonder if they come up with anything.

Does anybody got an idea how in the world such a thing can happen at all, i mean, whatever weird contruction might be necessary (like, mails stuck in some badly managed relay computer, mabe even man-in-the-middle or other hacked account thing or manipulation ... whatever !) because i'm totally stunned and clueless. 


Ralf,

I guess there can be many issues with mailing lists, for example they've got additional server chain and queue, but this is not such a case.


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Tue May 31 14:22:09 2016
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 14:22:09 +0200
Subject: [Users] Ghost emails / very strange POP behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160531141828.2f5ea9e3.codejodler@gmx.ch>
References: <20160530233318.495939e2.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531094318.34dc4f46@utnubu>
 <20160531141828.2f5ea9e3.codejodler@gmx.ch>
Message-ID: <20160531142209.4660cd08.codejodler@gmx.ch>

Another idea, what happens when mails get read in the webmail interface, and marked as "read" ? 
Does it make a difference to claws POPing them to a computer ? (I also wonder what it means for IMAP, just curious.)

I'm quite sure those mails simply weren't there, though. I mean, it was only 3 other mails in the online inbox and none in any other folder, and i'm not  hallucinating and not yet senile :D


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Tue May 31 14:27:10 2016
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 14:27:10 +0200
Subject: [Users] Ghost emails / very strange POP behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160531142209.4660cd08.codejodler@gmx.ch>
References: <20160530233318.495939e2.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531094318.34dc4f46@utnubu>
 <20160531141828.2f5ea9e3.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531142209.4660cd08.codejodler@gmx.ch>
Message-ID: <20160531142710.5a6ea82b.codejodler@gmx.ch>


And to clarify, Paul: I was wondering if the mails became invisible *locally* on my PC, somehow. Let's say some weird issue with the file system driver or whatever crazy shit; causing claws to not show them until another mail was added to the thread ?
Because this would be a possibility how those mails 'disappeared' from the server - they simply got downloaded and removed. 
It's way more plausible that they really weren't there anymore, and got 'lost' on the PC somehow.

Is there any weird combination of faults that could lead to such an outcome ? Plus, having them 'restored' later ?

(But my PC did not crash for a long time, if that's your next idea.)
 


From pf at pfortin.com  Tue May 31 15:29:17 2016
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 09:29:17 -0400
Subject: [Users] Ghost emails / very strange POP behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160531142209.4660cd08.codejodler@gmx.ch>
References: <20160530233318.495939e2.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531094318.34dc4f46@utnubu>
 <20160531141828.2f5ea9e3.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531142209.4660cd08.codejodler@gmx.ch>
Message-ID: <20160531092917.34cea11a@pfortin.com>

On Tue, 31 May 2016 14:22:09 +0200 Michael wrote:

>Another idea, what happens when mails get read in the webmail interface,
>and marked as "read" ? 

Only affects webmail interface.

>Does it make a difference to claws POPing them to a computer ? 

No. Although when POPed, webmail shows them read.

>(I also wonder what it means for IMAP, just curious.)

No idea. Never used IMAP.

>I'm quite sure those mails simply weren't there, though. I mean, it was
>only 3 other mails in the online inbox and none in any other folder, and
>i'm not  hallucinating and not yet senile :D

Can only suspect UIDL corruption...   I POP from laptop, Android phone &
Android tablet & occasionally use webmail on several servers and barely
recall a minor UIDL issue many years ago.

You said you delete messages when received on one machine...  this
_could_ cause UIDL confusion...  I only delete mail from the servers from
one machine, and even then, 10 days later (Receive in Edit accounts...)


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Tue May 31 17:45:58 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 17:45:58 +0200
Subject: [Users] Ghost emails / very strange POP behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160531142710.5a6ea82b.codejodler@gmx.ch>
References: <20160530233318.495939e2.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531094318.34dc4f46@utnubu>
 <20160531141828.2f5ea9e3.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531142209.4660cd08.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531142710.5a6ea82b.codejodler@gmx.ch>
Message-ID: <20160531174558.6f6181f6@utnubu>

On Tue, 31 May 2016 14:22:09 +0200, Michael wrote:
>Another idea, what happens when mails get read in the webmail
>interface, and marked as "read" ? Does it make a difference to claws
>POPing them to a computer ?

No, I can do this with several different providers and it doesn't
affect Claws.

On Tue, 31 May 2016 14:27:10 +0200, Michael wrote:
>Is there any weird combination of faults that could lead to such an
>outcome ? Plus, having them 'restored' later ?

Evolution (another MUA) provides a selection box "Show" (all messages,
(un)read messages, last 5 days, label etc.). It could happen, that
assumed you scroll with the mouse wheel through the list of mails, you
by accident scroll inside the "show" selection box, without noticing
it. Unlikely that something similar happens with Claws quick search bar.



From codejodler at gmx.ch  Tue May 31 20:24:52 2016
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 20:24:52 +0200
Subject: [Users] Ghost emails / very strange POP behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160531092917.34cea11a@pfortin.com>
References: <20160530233318.495939e2.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531094318.34dc4f46@utnubu>
 <20160531141828.2f5ea9e3.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531142209.4660cd08.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531092917.34cea11a@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20160531202452.12011e3e.codejodler@gmx.ch>

Pierre,

thx for your reply.

> You said you delete messages when received on one machine...  this
> _could_ cause UIDL confusion...  I only delete mail from the servers from
> one machine, and even then, 10 days later (Receive in Edit accounts...)

I always assumed that whateve i do at the laptop, does not affect the server mailbox in any way, since the laptop just only downloads, never syncs. Was that incorrect ?

The first time i read those 'lost messages' was on the road from my laptop, which is set to POP but not delet from server. And despite what i might have written before, i just find that i did not delete the first message, there, but deleted my answer and the folllow up. 

I wonder what UIDL corruption is, and how does it show up to the claws user ? Is there a possibility some mail gets into "stealth mode" somehow ?

And i have to repeat, i think it already happened earlier, at least two times, but back then i just could not believe it, and somehow went with the hopeful idea that my brain must be on err.


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Tue May 31 20:32:11 2016
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 20:32:11 +0200
Subject: [Users] Ghost emails / very strange POP behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160531174558.6f6181f6@utnubu>
References: <20160530233318.495939e2.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531094318.34dc4f46@utnubu>
 <20160531141828.2f5ea9e3.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531142209.4660cd08.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531142710.5a6ea82b.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531174558.6f6181f6@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160531203211.362afc02.codejodler@gmx.ch>

Ralf,

that's another idea ... a GUI problem. First of all, i use Quicksearch very rarely, and it definitely wasn't activated that time, and for a long time anyway.

The mails in question get filtered into a main folder filled with hundreds of private mail, so, clearly the mails of this folder were not set "invisible" altogether. But is there any GUI way to make a certain thread 'invisible' ?? Not just collapsed.


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Tue May 31 20:47:52 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 20:47:52 +0200
Subject: [Users] Ghost emails / very strange POP behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160531203211.362afc02.codejodler@gmx.ch>
References: <20160530233318.495939e2.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531094318.34dc4f46@utnubu>
 <20160531141828.2f5ea9e3.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531142209.4660cd08.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531142710.5a6ea82b.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531174558.6f6181f6@utnubu>
 <20160531203211.362afc02.codejodler@gmx.ch>
Message-ID: <20160531204752.14d2edf6@utnubu>

On Tue, 31 May 2016 20:32:11 +0200, Michael wrote:
>But is there any GUI way to make a certain thread 'invisible' ??

There at least is "Hide read messages" in Claws' "View" menu.

If a read message is selected, when you by accident check it, then you
would see a read messages and might not notice that other read messages
are hidden. OTOH, as soon as you start to scroll and search missing
mails, you'll notice that something is fishy and that not just a few
mails are missing.



From pf at pfortin.com  Tue May 31 20:52:22 2016
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 14:52:22 -0400
Subject: [Users] Ghost emails / very strange POP behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160531202452.12011e3e.codejodler@gmx.ch>
References: <20160530233318.495939e2.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531094318.34dc4f46@utnubu>
 <20160531141828.2f5ea9e3.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531142209.4660cd08.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531092917.34cea11a@pfortin.com>
 <20160531202452.12011e3e.codejodler@gmx.ch>
Message-ID: <20160531145222.2b39bde0@pfortin.com>

On Tue, 31 May 2016 20:24:52 +0200 Michael wrote:

>Pierre,
>
>thx for your reply.
>
>> You said you delete messages when received on one machine...  this
>> _could_ cause UIDL confusion...  I only delete mail from the servers
>> from one machine, and even then, 10 days later (Receive in Edit
>> accounts...)  
>
>I always assumed that whateve i do at the laptop, does not affect the
>server mailbox in any way, since the laptop just only downloads, never
>syncs. Was that incorrect ?
>
>The first time i read those 'lost messages' was on the road from my
>laptop, which is set to POP but not delet from server. And despite what
>i might have written before, i just find that i did not delete the first
>message, there, but deleted my answer and the folllow up. 
>
>I wonder what UIDL corruption is, and how does it show up to the claws
>user ? Is there a possibility some mail gets into "stealth mode"
>somehow ?
>
>And i have to repeat, i think it already happened earlier, at least two
>times, but back then i just could not believe it, and somehow went with
>the hopeful idea that my brain must be on err.

I vaguely recall something about UIDL, maybe 10 years ago. It's likely
the reason I have a 10 day delay in deleting mail off the servers. That
way, all my other devices can grab the messages without risk of some ot
them disappearing during their POP retrieve.

Just a SWAG; but avoiding potential race conditions between devices still
seems reasonable...  :)


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Tue May 31 21:06:09 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 21:06:09 +0200
Subject: [Users] Ghost emails / very strange POP behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160531145222.2b39bde0@pfortin.com>
References: <20160530233318.495939e2.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531094318.34dc4f46@utnubu>
 <20160531141828.2f5ea9e3.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531142209.4660cd08.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531092917.34cea11a@pfortin.com>
 <20160531202452.12011e3e.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531145222.2b39bde0@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <1464721569.911.7.camel@zoho.com>

On Tue, 2016-05-31 at 14:52 -0400, Pierre Fortin wrote:
> Just a SWAG; but avoiding potential race conditions between devices
> still seems reasonable...  :)

Race conditions are another issue. Now I retrieved your mail first by
the MUA that deletes from the POP server, before I retrieved it by the
other MUA. Usually I would ignore it, or assumed it's important, I would
e.g. Ex/Import as mbox or resend it. Such race condition issues don't
make mails appear after a while, they are lost and never will appear.

The delay is a very good idea, I changed all accounts to delete after
one day. Thank you! I always considered a delay as bad, but actually I
missed the forest for the trees.



From codejodler at gmx.ch  Tue May 31 22:08:06 2016
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 22:08:06 +0200
Subject: [Users] Ghost emails / very strange POP behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160531204752.14d2edf6@utnubu>
References: <20160530233318.495939e2.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531094318.34dc4f46@utnubu>
 <20160531141828.2f5ea9e3.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531142209.4660cd08.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531142710.5a6ea82b.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531174558.6f6181f6@utnubu>
 <20160531203211.362afc02.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531204752.14d2edf6@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160531220806.0119b06c.codejodler@gmx.ch>

> There at least is "Hide read messages" in Claws' "View" menu.

ok that's a nice try.

However, when those lost mails finally appeared / dropped in, they were bold letter = unread. Which fits into what Pierre said, that with POP, the read / unread status of the webmail interface is not parsed to the downloading MUA.

> OTOH, as soon as you start to scroll and search missing
> mails, you'll notice that something is fishy and that not just a few
> mails are missing.

And this is another reason why i would have noticed it: I have mail folders sorted latest-atop, and since i always keep a ton of already read messages, to work on replies some (far!) da later, it's really very visible here, if suddenly only unread were atop. No way i wouldn't notice ! 


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Tue May 31 23:09:40 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 23:09:40 +0200
Subject: [Users] Ghost emails / very strange POP behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160531220806.0119b06c.codejodler@gmx.ch>
References: <20160530233318.495939e2.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531094318.34dc4f46@utnubu>
 <20160531141828.2f5ea9e3.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531142209.4660cd08.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531142710.5a6ea82b.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531174558.6f6181f6@utnubu>
 <20160531203211.362afc02.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531204752.14d2edf6@utnubu>
 <20160531220806.0119b06c.codejodler@gmx.ch>
Message-ID: <20160531230940.6aab9388@utnubu>

On Tue, 31 May 2016 22:08:06 +0200, Michael wrote:
>However, when those lost mails finally appeared / dropped in, they
>were bold letter = unread. Which fits into what Pierre said, that with
>POP, the read / unread status of the webmail interface is not parsed
>to the downloading MUA.

Why should Claws care about it at all?

Paul already pointed out:

>In Claws Mail, when you elect to leave mails on the server, Claws
>Mail keeps a list of UIDLs (unique identifiers) in a file
>~/.claws-mail/uidl/ named [SERVER]-[EMAIL ADDRESS]. This is how it
>knows what it's already got, and when to remove them from the server.

Likely the only option now is to wait for a reply from your ISP.
Perhaps unplanned maintenance caused the issue.