From pf at pfortin.com  Wed Jun  1 00:12:05 2016
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 18:12:05 -0400
Subject: [Users] FYI: Bad date formats and sorting...
Message-ID: <20160531181205.426893df@pfortin.com>

Thought this might be useful info about date sorting...

Last week, I received some mail which didn't appear where it should in
the list of messages.  Discovered the problem to be due to the sender
using an antiquated date format. Sent them the following and still
haven't heard back...

>It should read:
>     Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 22:23:29 -0400
>not: Date: Wed May 25 22:23:29 EDT 2016 
>
>Your Date causes incorrect sort-by-date at the receiving end.
>See also https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5322#section-4.3

The sender...?  US-CERT!   The guys who keep tabs on vulnerabilities...
sure inspires confidence...   :/


From rol at witbe.net  Wed Jun  1 01:09:24 2016
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 01:09:24 +0200
Subject: [Users] FYI: Bad date formats and sorting...
In-Reply-To: <20160531181205.426893df@pfortin.com>
References: <20160531181205.426893df@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20160601010924.24143277@riri.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello Pierre,

On Tue, 31 May 2016 18:12:05 -0400
Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:

> Thought this might be useful info about date sorting...
> 
> Last week, I received some mail which didn't appear where it should in
> the list of messages.  Discovered the problem to be due to the sender
> using an antiquated date format. Sent them the following and still
> haven't heard back...
> 
> >It should read:
> >     Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 22:23:29 -0400
> >not: Date: Wed May 25 22:23:29 EDT 2016 
> >
> >Your Date causes incorrect sort-by-date at the receiving end.
> >See also https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5322#section-4.3  

I'm also "fighting" with GrandStream, a IPBX maker, because the latest
update changes the date to be formatted as:

Date: Tue May 31 03:10:08 CEST 2016

I opened a ticket, referred them to the RFC, and was told that this was
escalated.... Ticket was closed yesterday due to lack of activity, never
got a reply from the escalation.

Guess we are going to have to learn to work with these buggy dates :(

Paul

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From pf at pfortin.com  Wed Jun  1 01:26:24 2016
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 19:26:24 -0400
Subject: [Users] FYI: Bad date formats and sorting...
In-Reply-To: <20160601010924.24143277@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
References: <20160531181205.426893df@pfortin.com>
 <20160601010924.24143277@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
Message-ID: <20160531192624.31fa62af@pfortin.com>

On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 01:09:24 +0200 Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) wrote:

>Hello Pierre,
>
>On Tue, 31 May 2016 18:12:05 -0400
>Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:
>
>> Thought this might be useful info about date sorting...
>> 
>> Last week, I received some mail which didn't appear where it should in
>> the list of messages.  Discovered the problem to be due to the sender
>> using an antiquated date format. Sent them the following and still
>> haven't heard back...
>>   
>> >It should read:
>> >     Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 22:23:29 -0400
>> >not: Date: Wed May 25 22:23:29 EDT 2016 
>> >
>> >Your Date causes incorrect sort-by-date at the receiving end.
>> >See also https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5322#section-4.3    
>
>I'm also "fighting" with GrandStream, a IPBX maker, because the latest
>update changes the date to be formatted as:
>
>Date: Tue May 31 03:10:08 CEST 2016
>
>I opened a ticket, referred them to the RFC, and was told that this was
>escalated.... Ticket was closed yesterday due to lack of activity, never
>got a reply from the escalation.
>
>Guess we are going to have to learn to work with these buggy dates :(

Yup...  looked into the code and thought the best place to "fix" this
was as the message(s) arrived...  I'm willing to give it a shot if someone
can point me to the right bit of code (inc.c?) where the message arrives
and just before it gets written, I can give it a try...  

>Paul



From andrej at kacian.sk  Wed Jun  1 07:42:49 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 07:42:49 +0200
Subject: [Users] FYI: Bad date formats and sorting...
In-Reply-To: <20160531192624.31fa62af@pfortin.com>
References: <20160531181205.426893df@pfortin.com>
 <20160601010924.24143277@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20160531192624.31fa62af@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20160601074249.4f2c4582@penny>

On Tue, 31 May 2016 19:26:24 -0400
Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:

> Yup...  looked into the code and thought the best place to "fix" this
> was as the message(s) arrived...  I'm willing to give it a shot if someone
> can point me to the right bit of code (inc.c?) where the message arrives
> and just before it gets written, I can give it a try...  

We generally have a policy of not modifying contents of received
messages, so instead of fixing the date, I think it would be better to
just parse the obsolete date string correctly. Look in procheader.c,
function procheader_scan_date_string().

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From h.m.brand at xs4all.nl  Wed Jun  1 08:01:42 2016
From: h.m.brand at xs4all.nl (H.Merijn Brand)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 08:01:42 +0200
Subject: [Users] FYI: Bad date formats and sorting...
In-Reply-To: <20160601074249.4f2c4582@penny>
References: <20160531181205.426893df@pfortin.com>
 <20160601010924.24143277@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20160531192624.31fa62af@pfortin.com>
 <20160601074249.4f2c4582@penny>
Message-ID: <20160601080142.29c8fda9@pc09.procura.nl>

On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 07:42:49 +0200, Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk>
wrote:

> On Tue, 31 May 2016 19:26:24 -0400
> Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:
> 
> > Yup...  looked into the code and thought the best place to "fix" this
> > was as the message(s) arrived...  I'm willing to give it a shot if someone
> > can point me to the right bit of code (inc.c?) where the message arrives
> > and just before it gets written, I can give it a try...    
> 
> We generally have a policy of not modifying contents of received
> messages, so instead of fixing the date, I think it would be better to
> just parse the obsolete date string correctly. Look in procheader.c,
> function procheader_scan_date_string().
> 
> Regards,

I always add code there too, because I cannot stand AM/PM

@@ -820,6 +820,18 @@ static gint procheader_scan_date_string(const gchar *str,
 			day, month, year, hh, mm, ss);
 	if (result == 6) return 0;
 
+	result = sscanf(str, "%3s %3s %d %2d:%2d:%2d %d",
+			weekday, month, day, hh, mm, ss, year);
+	if (result == 7) return 0;
+
+	result = sscanf(str, "%3s, %d %3s %d %2d:%2d:%2d %2s",
+			weekday, day, month, year, hh, mm, ss, zone);
+	if (result == 7) {
+	    if (*zone == 'P') hh = hh + 12;
+	    *zone = (gchar)0;
+	    return 0;
+	    }
+
 	*ss = 0;
 	result = sscanf(str, "%10s %d %9s %d %2d:%2d %6s",
 			weekday, day, month, year, hh, mm, zone);



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From subscript at free.fr  Wed Jun  1 08:46:11 2016
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 08:46:11 +0200
Subject: [Users] FYI: Bad date formats and sorting...
In-Reply-To: <20160601080142.29c8fda9@pc09.procura.nl>
References: <20160531181205.426893df@pfortin.com>
 <20160601010924.24143277@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20160531192624.31fa62af@pfortin.com>
 <20160601074249.4f2c4582@penny>
 <20160601080142.29c8fda9@pc09.procura.nl>
Message-ID: <20160601084611.07d6c861@anthra>

Hello H.Merijn,


On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 08:01:42 +0200 "H.Merijn Brand" <h.m.brand at xs4all.nl> wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 07:42:49 +0200, Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 31 May 2016 19:26:24 -0400
> > Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > Yup...  looked into the code and thought the best place to "fix" this
> > > was as the message(s) arrived...  I'm willing to give it a shot if someone
> > > can point me to the right bit of code (inc.c?) where the message arrives
> > > and just before it gets written, I can give it a try...      
> > 
> > We generally have a policy of not modifying contents of received
> > messages, so instead of fixing the date, I think it would be better to
> > just parse the obsolete date string correctly. Look in procheader.c,
> > function procheader_scan_date_string().
> > 
> > Regards,  
> 
> I always add code there too, because I cannot stand AM/PM
> 
> @@ -820,6 +820,18 @@ static gint procheader_scan_date_string(const gchar *str,
>  			day, month, year, hh, mm, ss);
>  	if (result == 6) return 0;
>  
> +	result = sscanf(str, "%3s %3s %d %2d:%2d:%2d %d",
> +			weekday, month, day, hh, mm, ss, year);
> +	if (result == 7) return 0;
> +
> +	result = sscanf(str, "%3s, %d %3s %d %2d:%2d:%2d %2s",
> +			weekday, day, month, year, hh, mm, ss, zone);
> +	if (result == 7) {
> +	    if (*zone == 'P') hh = hh + 12;
> +	    *zone = (gchar)0;
> +	    return 0;
> +	    }
> +
>  	*ss = 0;
>  	result = sscanf(str, "%10s %d %9s %d %2d:%2d %6s",
>  			weekday, day, month, year, hh, mm, zone);

Where in the GUI/data do you have to act from the code in order to
customize date/time display that you cannot do from the preferences?
Could you please elaborate a bit?


Regards,

-- 
wwp
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From pf at pfortin.com  Wed Jun  1 08:57:47 2016
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 02:57:47 -0400
Subject: [Users] FYI: Bad date formats and sorting...
In-Reply-To: <20160601074249.4f2c4582@penny>
References: <20160531181205.426893df@pfortin.com>
 <20160601010924.24143277@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20160531192624.31fa62af@pfortin.com>
 <20160601074249.4f2c4582@penny>
Message-ID: <20160601025747.1be2c0ab@pfortin.com>

On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 07:42:49 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote:

>On Tue, 31 May 2016 19:26:24 -0400
>Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:
>
>> Yup...  looked into the code and thought the best place to "fix" this
>> was as the message(s) arrived...  I'm willing to give it a shot if
>> someone can point me to the right bit of code (inc.c?) where the
>> message arrives and just before it gets written, I can give it a
>> try...    
>
>We generally have a policy of not modifying contents of received
>messages, so instead of fixing the date, I think it would be better to
>just parse the obsolete date string correctly. Look in procheader.c,
>function procheader_scan_date_string().

Ah-ha! (burst of enlightenment :)

So just the parsing is needed...  

================ leaving for the benefit of other readers ===========
The RFCs also talk about obsolete date formats. In particular, the US
timezones and even list a translation:
  UT, GMT = +0000
  EDT -0400
  EST -0500
  CDT -0500
  CST -0600
  MDT -0600
  MST -0700
  PDT -0700
  PST -0800
and also mentions military TZ references (though I've never seen these):
  a,A = -1 through i,I = -9
  j,J not used (appears to be northern Pacific)
  k,K = -10 through y,Y +12
  z,Z +0000
================ leaving for the benefit of other readers ===========

Paul Holland sent me a private note with CEST (Central European
Summer Time) which doesn't appear to be RFC referenced...

Notwithstanding the above, Paul H. provided this code:

  // Date: Tue May 31 03:10:08 CEST 2016
  result = sscanf(str, "%3s %3s %d %d:%d:%d %s %d",
                 weekday, month, day, hh, mm, ss, zone, year);
  if (result == 8) return 0;

which handles the case I originally posted about:
  // Date: Wed May 25 22:23:29 EDT 2016 

Cool!  More digging revealed that, except for this date format, CM already
handles pretty much all of the above at remote_tzoffset_sec() in
src/common/utils.c

Continually amazed by this great MUA   :)

>Regards,


From h.m.brand at xs4all.nl  Wed Jun  1 08:57:56 2016
From: h.m.brand at xs4all.nl (H.Merijn Brand)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 08:57:56 +0200
Subject: [Users] FYI: Bad date formats and sorting...
In-Reply-To: <20160601084611.07d6c861@anthra>
References: <20160531181205.426893df@pfortin.com>
 <20160601010924.24143277@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20160531192624.31fa62af@pfortin.com>
 <20160601074249.4f2c4582@penny>
 <20160601080142.29c8fda9@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20160601084611.07d6c861@anthra>
Message-ID: <20160601085756.015e7b65@pc09.procura.nl>

On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 08:46:11 +0200, wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:

> Where in the GUI/data do you have to act from the code in order to
> customize date/time display that you cannot do from the preferences?
> Could you please elaborate a bit?

These patches gathered from waaaaay back:

diff -pur a/src/procheader.c b/src/procheader.c
--- a/src/procheader.c  2008-04-19 06:00:30.000000000 +0200
+++ b/src/procheader.c  2008-08-06 14:27:54.000000000 +0200

It /might/ be that the options for date-display customization have been
added afterward. As long as these do not disturb normal operation, I
just leave them in. It cannot harm, can it?

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From subscript at free.fr  Wed Jun  1 09:33:40 2016
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:33:40 +0200
Subject: [Users] FYI: Bad date formats and sorting...
In-Reply-To: <20160601085756.015e7b65@pc09.procura.nl>
References: <20160531181205.426893df@pfortin.com>
 <20160601010924.24143277@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20160531192624.31fa62af@pfortin.com>
 <20160601074249.4f2c4582@penny>
 <20160601080142.29c8fda9@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20160601084611.07d6c861@anthra>
 <20160601085756.015e7b65@pc09.procura.nl>
Message-ID: <20160601093340.4556ffe2@anthra>

Hello H.Merijn,


On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 08:57:56 +0200 "H.Merijn Brand" <h.m.brand at xs4all.nl> wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 08:46:11 +0200, wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:
> 
> > Where in the GUI/data do you have to act from the code in order to
> > customize date/time display that you cannot do from the preferences?
> > Could you please elaborate a bit?  
> 
> These patches gathered from waaaaay back:
> 
> diff -pur a/src/procheader.c b/src/procheader.c
> --- a/src/procheader.c  2008-04-19 06:00:30.000000000 +0200
> +++ b/src/procheader.c  2008-08-06 14:27:54.000000000 +0200
> 
> It /might/ be that the options for date-display customization have been
> added afterward. As long as these do not disturb normal operation, I
> just leave them in. It cannot harm, can it?

I applied locally only, it cannot :-).


Regards,

-- 
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From jseymour at LinxNet.com  Wed Jun  1 12:40:28 2016
From: jseymour at LinxNet.com (Jim Seymour)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 06:40:28 -0400
Subject: [Users] FYI: Bad date formats and sorting...
In-Reply-To: <20160531181205.426893df@pfortin.com>
References: <20160531181205.426893df@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20160601064028.2a5a075d@win0091>

On Tue, 31 May 2016 18:12:05 -0400
Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:

> Thought this might be useful info about date sorting...
> 
> Last week, I received some mail which didn't appear where it should in
> the list of messages.  Discovered the problem to be due to the sender
> using an antiquated date format. Sent them the following and still
> haven't heard back...
> 
> >It should read:
> >     Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 22:23:29 -0400
> >not: Date: Wed May 25 22:23:29 EDT 2016 
> >
> >Your Date causes incorrect sort-by-date at the receiving end.
> >See also https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5322#section-4.3  
> 
> The sender...?  US-CERT!   The guys who keep tabs on
> vulnerabilities... sure inspires confidence...   :/

Odd.  I just looked at my CERT folder:

| Subject: TA16-144A: WPAD Name Collision Vulnerability
| Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 15:22:06 -0500
| To: jseymour at linxnet.com
| From: "US-CERT" <US-CERT at ncas.us-cert.gov>

Looks right to me.

Regards,
Jim
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From pf at pfortin.com  Wed Jun  1 15:19:38 2016
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:19:38 -0400
Subject: [Users] FYI: Bad date formats and sorting...
In-Reply-To: <20160601064028.2a5a075d@win0091>
References: <20160531181205.426893df@pfortin.com>
 <20160601064028.2a5a075d@win0091>
Message-ID: <20160601091938.7fabe0d3@pfortin.com>

On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 06:40:28 -0400 Jim Seymour wrote:

>Odd.  I just looked at my CERT folder:
>
>| Subject: TA16-144A: WPAD Name Collision Vulnerability
>| Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 15:22:06 -0500
>| To: jseymour at linxnet.com
>| From: "US-CERT" <US-CERT at ncas.us-cert.gov>
>
>Looks right to me.

Then you never submitted a report... :)  The weekly reports are
correct; the bad date was in a message to all past reporters...
Subject: NTIA Coordinated Vulnerability Disclosure Survey [INFO#558540]


From rol at witbe.net  Wed Jun  1 17:05:31 2016
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 17:05:31 +0200
Subject: [Users] FYI: Bad date formats and sorting...
In-Reply-To: <20160601080142.29c8fda9@pc09.procura.nl>
References: <20160531181205.426893df@pfortin.com>
 <20160601010924.24143277@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20160531192624.31fa62af@pfortin.com>
 <20160601074249.4f2c4582@penny>
 <20160601080142.29c8fda9@pc09.procura.nl>
Message-ID: <20160601170531.04dd08ee@riri.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello,

On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 08:01:42 +0200
"H.Merijn Brand" <h.m.brand at xs4all.nl> wrote:

> I always add code there too, because I cannot stand AM/PM

;)

So, here is attached a first patch combining what H.Merijn is using, and
what I sent yesterday to Pierre.

While we are on that area, any other idea/requests ? Does any feel we
should handle more formats ? 

Best,
Paul

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too young to have logged on yet. Here's what I worry about. I worry that 10
or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say 'Daddy, where were you
when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?'"
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From nicolas.claws at iselin.ch  Thu Jun  2 08:10:42 2016
From: nicolas.claws at iselin.ch (Nicolas Iselin)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 08:10:42 +0200
Subject: [Users] FYI: Bad date formats and sorting...
In-Reply-To: <20160601170531.04dd08ee@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
References: <20160531181205.426893df@pfortin.com>
 <20160601010924.24143277@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20160531192624.31fa62af@pfortin.com>
 <20160601074249.4f2c4582@penny>
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Hi Paul

Am Wed, 1 Jun 2016 17:05:31 +0200
schrieb "Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)" <rol at witbe.net>:

> While we are on that area, any other idea/requests ? Does any feel we
> should handle more formats ? 

I'm sorry I didn't follow the whole thread, so this request might be
covered already. I receive mails from an asterisk based IP telephony
software (Askozia) with badly formed date headers. So sometimes I miss a
mail because these mails are considered to be older than everything
else. Examples are: 

date: Fri May 27 14:27:56 CEST 2016
date: Tue Apr 26 09:49:45 CEST 2016
date: Thu Feb  4 10:00:23 CET 2016
date: Thu Jan 28 08:51:38 CET 2016

I guess this is not as defined in the RFCs, but it would be nice if
claws would be more "liberal" in this case :-)

Regards
Nicolas


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun  2 08:28:52 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 07:28:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] FYI: Bad date formats and sorting...
In-Reply-To: <20160602081042.2a2f38e1@omega64>
References: <20160531181205.426893df@pfortin.com>
 <20160601010924.24143277@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20160531192624.31fa62af@pfortin.com>
 <20160601074249.4f2c4582@penny>
 <20160601080142.29c8fda9@pc09.procura.nl>
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 <20160602081042.2a2f38e1@omega64>
Message-ID: <20160602072852.4304a741@kujata>

http://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php

At this URL, and also in the tools/ directory of the release
tarballs, and in git, you can find a script to use with Actions:

-------8<--------8<--------8<--------8<--------

* fix-date.sh

 WHAT IT DOES
	Add a 'Date:' header to the selected email(s) when such
 header is missing. The correct date is guessed from other headers
 that contain timestamp information (preferred: Fetchinfo header if
 found) or from the file or system date as a fallback. The order or
 preference for the date valuereplacement can be changed by editing
 the script. This script can be used to fix messages that show non
 RFC-compliant Date headers as well.
	X-Original-Date is always added too if not already existing
 (if so, it's left untouched), to keep track of the original value if
 any. An existing Date: header is not overwritten unless you use the
 --force switch.
	Non RFC-compliant dates can be overwritten using the --rfc
 switch. Use --strict to use strict RFC matching patterns for date
 values in other headers.
	
  HOW TO USE IT
	fix_date.sh %F

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From brenda at ibas.co.uk  Thu Jun  2 12:33:59 2016
From: brenda at ibas.co.uk (brenda at ibas.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 11:33:59 +0100
Subject: [Users] (no subject)
Message-ID: <20160602113359.00003520@ibas.co.uk>



Begin forwarded message:

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 10:59:06 +0100
From: <brenda at ibas.co.uk>
To: users at lists.claws-mail.org


Hi,

I have installed Claws as it supprts Pop3, like the design and layout
and have sorted most initial issues with one exception:

I have four accounts and each time a mail is received to any one of
them it is duplicated to all other accounts. More worrying is that
I am also receiving copies of mails sent to my work colleagues who are
on different e.mail systems. So I am getting multiple repeat mails
intended for various people in our office - even those not intended
for me.

Is there a way rojund this ?

Many thanks,

Brenda


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun  2 13:39:26 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 12:39:26 +0100
Subject: [Users] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20160602113359.00003520@ibas.co.uk>
References: <20160602113359.00003520@ibas.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20160602123926.5ec338ea@kujata>

On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 11:33:59 +0100
<brenda at ibas.co.uk> wrote: 

> I have four accounts and each time a mail is received to any one of
> them it is duplicated to all other accounts.

You are not clear here. In Claws Mail a POP account is an entity
which is distinct from an Mailbox. All of the your 4 POP accounts
could share a single mailbox (this is the default), or you could have
set it up so that they each have their own mailbox.

This could be caused by your filtering rules. Do you have filtering
rules?

Tell us more.

> More worrying is that
> I am also receiving copies of mails sent to my work colleagues who
> are on different e.mail systems. So I am getting multiple repeat
> mails intended for various people in our office - even those not
> intended for me.

There is no way that Claws Mail could make this happen. The mails you
are receiving are the mails which the server gives to you.

with regards

Paul


From rol at witbe.net  Thu Jun  2 16:38:58 2016
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 16:38:58 +0200
Subject: [Users] FYI: Bad date formats and sorting...
In-Reply-To: <20160602072852.4304a741@kujata>
References: <20160531181205.426893df@pfortin.com>
 <20160601010924.24143277@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20160531192624.31fa62af@pfortin.com>
 <20160601074249.4f2c4582@penny>
 <20160601080142.29c8fda9@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20160601170531.04dd08ee@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20160602081042.2a2f38e1@omega64> <20160602072852.4304a741@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160602163858.2c6c7865@riri.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello Paul,

On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 07:28:52 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> At this URL, and also in the tools/ directory of the release
> tarballs, and in git, you can find a script to use with Actions:
> 
> * fix-date.sh
> 
>  WHAT IT DOES
> 	Add a 'Date:' header to the selected email(s) when such

That's nice, but I don't see why I should have to go through an action on
the mails manually when that can be done automatically by Claws.

And the second problem I see is that I have Processing rules which are
acting on the date of the email, and dispatching them to Archives folder. 
These mails with their "unknown" date are automatically processed and
dispatched to these Archives. Using a manual Actions would force me to go
through all the possible destination folder, apply the Action, and then
move the mails back to the correct location...

What's the problem with extending Claws ability to recognize new date
formats ?

Regards,
Paul

-- 

Paul Rolland                                E-Mail : rol(at)witbe.net
CTO - Witbe.net SA                          Tel. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 77
Les Collines de l'Arche                     Fax. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 99
F-92057 Paris La Defense                    RIPE : PR12-RIPE

LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulrolland
Skype    : rollandpaul

"I worry about my child and the Internet all the time, even though she's
too young to have logged on yet. Here's what I worry about. I worry that 10
or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say 'Daddy, where were you
when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?'"
--Mike Godwin, Electronic Frontier Foundation 


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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun  2 16:43:06 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 15:43:06 +0100
Subject: [Users] FYI: Bad date formats and sorting...
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Message-ID: <20160602154306.788c347b@kujata>

On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 16:38:58 +0200
"Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)" <rol at witbe.net> wrote: 

> That's nice, but I don't see why I should have to go through an
> action on the mails manually when that can be done automatically by
> Claws.

I'm not saying you should, I'm saying you could.

> What's the problem with extending Claws ability to recognize new
> date formats ?

None come to mind right now.

with regards

Paul


From rol at witbe.net  Thu Jun  2 17:38:14 2016
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 17:38:14 +0200
Subject: [Users] FYI: Bad date formats and sorting...
In-Reply-To: <20160602154306.788c347b@kujata>
References: <20160531181205.426893df@pfortin.com>
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 <20160601074249.4f2c4582@penny>
 <20160601080142.29c8fda9@pc09.procura.nl>
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Message-ID: <20160602173814.00ddecff@riri.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello,

On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 15:43:06 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 16:38:58 +0200
> "Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)" <rol at witbe.net> wrote: 
> 
> > That's nice, but I don't see why I should have to go through an
> > action on the mails manually when that can be done automatically by
> > Claws.  
> 
> I'm not saying you should, I'm saying you could.

Sorry, I misunderstood you, thanks for the clarification.

Best,
Paul

-- 

Paul Rolland                                E-Mail : rol(at)witbe.net
CTO - Witbe.net SA                          Tel. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 77
Les Collines de l'Arche                     Fax. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 99
F-92057 Paris La Defense                    RIPE : PR12-RIPE

LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulrolland
Skype    : rollandpaul

"I worry about my child and the Internet all the time, even though she's
too young to have logged on yet. Here's what I worry about. I worry that 10
or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say 'Daddy, where were you
when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?'"
--Mike Godwin, Electronic Frontier Foundation 


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From codejodler at gmx.ch  Fri Jun  3 07:10:42 2016
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 07:10:42 +0200
Subject: [Users] Ghost emails / very strange POP behavior
In-Reply-To: <1464721569.911.7.camel@zoho.com>
References: <20160530233318.495939e2.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531094318.34dc4f46@utnubu>
 <20160531141828.2f5ea9e3.codejodler@gmx.ch>
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Since i added a time delay of 3 days now to my "remove from server" setting in the PC claws, the last three days are naturally downloaded a second time when i launch laptop claws. Somehow i wonder if something like this could have triggered the strange behavior. However, that time, i had no time delay checked, in neither device, and it wouldn't explain why i didn't see the time-shifted mails in the webmailer. 

MSP didn't respond so far. Maybe they're working on it now ;P


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun  3 09:36:28 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 08:36:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] Ghost emails / very strange POP behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160603071042.229ebf50.codejodler@gmx.ch>
References: <20160530233318.495939e2.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531094318.34dc4f46@utnubu>
 <20160531141828.2f5ea9e3.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531142209.4660cd08.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531092917.34cea11a@pfortin.com>
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Message-ID: <20160603083628.7028110c@kujata>

On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 07:10:42 +0200
Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote: 

> Somehow i wonder if something like this could have triggered the
> strange behavior.

There is no reason to think that it would.

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun  3 16:06:25 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 14:06:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3638] GData Plugin fails after initial Google handshake
In-Reply-To: <bug-3638-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3638-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3638-595-3ttQxHNnvj@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3638

--- Comment #7 from lbickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com> ---
As you can see, the bug still exists. Is anyone working on this problem?

I am currently running:
Claws version 3.13.2-120-ge630ef

System Information
GTK+ 2.24.28 / GLib 2.42.2
Locale: en_US.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8)
Operating System: Linux 3.16.6-2-desktop (x86_64)
-------------------------------------------------

06:29:12] POP3< +OK Bye-bye.

* GData plugin: Starting async contacts query
*** GData plugin: Error querying for contacts: Authentication required:
<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<title>Error
401
(Client Error)!!1</title>
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From lists.o at la-familia-grande.de  Sat Jun  4 14:15:59 2016
From: lists.o at la-familia-grande.de (Oliver =?UTF-8?B?TWVpw59uZXI=?=)
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 14:15:59 +0200
Subject: [Users] Templates: Use Userinput to select attachment
Message-ID: <20160604141559.3c693a3e@osiris.olly.local>

Hi Folks,

for a specific template I need an attachment, but it's not a static
filename. So I need a way to do something like

|attach{ |input{filename} }

or to be prompted to choose a file from the filesystem.

Any ideas or solutions?

Best regards
    Olly


From nick at linicks.net  Sat Jun  4 14:32:29 2016
From: nick at linicks.net (Nick Warne)
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 13:32:29 +0100
Subject: [Users] Templates: Use Userinput to select attachment
In-Reply-To: <20160604141559.3c693a3e@osiris.olly.local>
References: <20160604141559.3c693a3e@osiris.olly.local>
Message-ID: <20160604133229.46e71b70@palantirII.linicks.net>

On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 14:15:59 +0200
Oliver Meißner <lists.o at la-familia-grande.de> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> 
> for a specific template I need an attachment, but it's not a static
> filename. So I need a way to do something like
> 
> |attach{ |input{filename} }
> 
> or to be prompted to choose a file from the filesystem.
> 
> Any ideas or solutions?

Hammer and nail etc.  Do it the other way around.  Knock up a small
perl script that will rename the file to a constant each time - then
your template can remain static.

NIck
-- 
Gosh that takes me back... or is it forward?  That's the trouble with
time travel, you never can tell."
		-- Doctor Who "Androids of Tara"


From lists.o at la-familia-grande.de  Sun Jun  5 10:36:50 2016
From: lists.o at la-familia-grande.de (Oliver =?UTF-8?B?TWVpw59uZXI=?=)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 10:36:50 +0200
Subject: [Users] Templates: Use Userinput to select attachment
In-Reply-To: <20160604133229.46e71b70@palantirII.linicks.net>
References: <20160604141559.3c693a3e@osiris.olly.local>
 <20160604133229.46e71b70@palantirII.linicks.net>
Message-ID: <20160605103650.3e735335@osiris.olly.local>

Am Sat, 4 Jun 2016 13:32:29 +0100
schrieb Nick Warne <nick at linicks.net>:

> Hammer and nail etc.  Do it the other way around.  Knock up a small
> perl script that will rename the file to a constant each time - then
> your template can remain static.

It works. Thanks.

Olly


From John at wexfordpress.com  Sun Jun  5 17:20:26 2016
From: John at wexfordpress.com (John Culleton)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 11:20:26 -0400
Subject: [Users] Directing spam to my Spam folder.
In-Reply-To: <20120523145326.4175b33b@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20120523092845.06b022f6@syx.wexfordpress.net>
 <20120523145326.4175b33b@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20160605112026.1c6a4b1a@simple.wexfordpress.net>

On Wed, 23 May 2012 14:53:26 +0100
Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 23 May 2012 09:28:45 -0400
> john Culleton <John at wexfordpress.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello john,
> 
> > n my prevous bogofilter installation I was
> > able to direct all messages that I clicked as
> > spam to my designated Spam folder. That
> > desn't seem to work any more. Anyone know the
> > routine?   
> 
> Works here (v3.8.0).  Double check prefs in
> Plugins/Bogofilter. Specifically, that the
> place selected to send spam to exists, and is
> ticked as being active.
> 

Using 3.13.2

Can't find a line marked Plugins. Is that in
claws-mail? If so how do I get to it?

Thanks in advance


From John at wexfordpress.com  Sun Jun  5 17:29:00 2016
From: John at wexfordpress.com (John Culleton)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 11:29:00 -0400
Subject: [Users] Directing spam to my Spam folder.
In-Reply-To: <20120523092845.06b022f6@syx.wexfordpress.net>
References: <20120523092845.06b022f6@syx.wexfordpress.net>
Message-ID: <20160605112900.42d708ac@simple.wexfordpress.net>

On Wed, 23 May 2012 09:28:45 -0400
john Culleton <John at wexfordpress.com> wrote:

> n my prevous bogofilter installation I was able
> to direct all messages that I clicked as spam
> to my designated Spam folder. That desn't seem
> to work any more. Anyone know the routine? 
> 
> version 3.7.10cvs86

Never mind. Found plugins in Configuration
column. Activated bogofilter. Now the "spam" item
on top line works.

I seem to remember that separately from
Claws-mail I must run the bogofilter
program nightly. Anyone have a sample of that
command?

John C.


From patrick.boettcher at posteo.de  Sun Jun  5 22:40:41 2016
From: patrick.boettcher at posteo.de (Patrick Boettcher)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 22:40:41 +0200
Subject: [Users] Assign out-of-thread mail to a thread
Message-ID: <20160605224041.7f25989d@posteo.de>

Hi,

Some people's mailers seem to break thread-replies. It
happens all the time that replies are not assigned to their
thread-hierarchy. 

Would it be possible to add an option or functionality to manually
re-assign them to their thread - ideally by drag and drop? 

It would be really useful for, e.g, archiving reasons.

Or is there something which already exists?

regards,

--
Patrick.
 


From rol at witbe.net  Mon Jun  6 08:30:20 2016
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 08:30:20 +0200
Subject: [Users] Assign out-of-thread mail to a thread
In-Reply-To: <20160605224041.7f25989d@posteo.de>
References: <20160605224041.7f25989d@posteo.de>
Message-ID: <20160606083020.42df3a00@riri.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello,

On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 22:40:41 +0200
Patrick Boettcher <patrick.boettcher at posteo.de> wrote:

> Some people's mailers seem to break thread-replies. It
> happens all the time that replies are not assigned to their
> thread-hierarchy. 
> 
> Would it be possible to add an option or functionality to manually
> re-assign them to their thread - ideally by drag and drop? 
> 
> It would be really useful for, e.g, archiving reasons.
> 
> Or is there something which already exists?

Have you tried the following configuration:
 - View > Thread View: selected
 - View > Sort > By thread date: selected
 - View > Sort > Attract by Subject: selected

Best,
Paul

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From h.m.brand at xs4all.nl  Mon Jun  6 10:26:30 2016
From: h.m.brand at xs4all.nl (H.Merijn Brand)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 10:26:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] Assign out-of-thread mail to a thread
In-Reply-To: <20160606083020.42df3a00@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
References: <20160605224041.7f25989d@posteo.de>
 <20160606083020.42df3a00@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
Message-ID: <20160606102630.3b2764e6@pc09.procura.nl>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 08:30:20 +0200, "Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)"
<rol at witbe.net> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 22:40:41 +0200
> Patrick Boettcher <patrick.boettcher at posteo.de> wrote:
> 
> > Some people's mailers seem to break thread-replies. It
> > happens all the time that replies are not assigned to their
> > thread-hierarchy. 
> > 
> > Would it be possible to add an option or functionality to manually
> > re-assign them to their thread - ideally by drag and drop? 
> > 
> > It would be really useful for, e.g, archiving reasons.
> > 
> > Or is there something which already exists?  
> 
> Have you tried the following configuration:
>  - View > Thread View: selected
>  - View > Sort > By thread date: selected
>  - View > Sort > Attract by Subject: selected

Of course :)

But that still leaves a (lot of) mail that falls outside of the thread
because the mail client used by the sender doesn't know how to follow
the RFC's for correctly sending a reply.

Some history:

On Mon, 9 May 2005 17:37:59 +0200, "H.Merijn Brand" <h.m.brand at xs4all.nl> wrote:

> Some people just can't use mail clients. There's just no way teaching them.
> Some people do it right, and some people use Internet Mail Service and just
> don't manage to get threading right.
> 
> I also got this in Becky, where someone posts message A, you reply with
> message B, and the poster of message A replies to B with C, but C get
> threaded with A as parent. Very annoying if you want to safe it in the right
> place (with B as parent) if the thread turns out to be a large one with a lot
> of different branches
> 
> In becky I was able to drag a message to another message (only when in thread-
> view mode), at which point Becky would ask me to confirm to force re-thread
> message C to be hooked to B being it's new parent.
> 
> Would such a thing be possible in SC?

That one did not get a single reply

On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 21:51:30 +0100, "H.Merijn Brand" <h.m.brand at xs4all.nl> wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:00:34 +0000, Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:32:40 +0000
> > John G Walker <johngwalker at tiscali.co.uk> wrote: 
> >   
> > > A question on this: how does claws-mail decide what thread a specific
> > > email message belongs to? This case implied that it uses the subject
> > > line, but this does not accord with my experience in other cases, when
> > > a change of subject does not affect threading,  
> > 
> > It uses the In-Reply-To and References headers.
> > 
> > Some automated mailers, (scripts, etc), and some bad MUAs don't
> > properly added these headers, so we have the option to thread
> > using Subject in addition to those header, which is further controlled
> > by the hidden option thread_by_subject_max_age, a value in days.  
> 
> Which reminds me of a long-missed feature Becky! was offering:
> Manual re-threading. One could drag mis-threaded posts to a new
> parent message, and whatever header Becky used was changed or
> added so the new position was remembered..
> 
> Certainly with some MUA's we won't name, mis-threaded messages
> are quite common.
> 
> > In the Compose window you can use '/Options/Remove references' if
> > you 'resourcefully' clicked reply on a message to get the correct To
> > address but are really starting a new thread.   
> 
> And that was a right-click option: break thread

That one did not get a reply either

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:12:37 +0100, "H.Merijn Brand" <h.m.brand at xs4all.nl> wrote:

> Is there a hook available that is triggered if one message is dropped
> on another message?
> 
> What I want (to achieve) is to alter the dropped message to add or
> replace the In-Reply-To: header to contain the Message-ID: of the
> message the message is dropped on, optionally changing the Subject:
> on the fly to prepend Re: if needed.
> 
> This seems to me a very easy way to implement a drag-and-drop thread
> repair tool.

Answered by Colin:

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:19:12 +0100, Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

> > Is there a hook available that is triggered if one message is dropped
> > on another message?  
> 
> nope, there isn't.

On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 17:13:45 +0200, Axel Palm <axelpalm at mail.ee> wrote:

> am suggesting another useful feature namely (like a feature in mutt)
> unlinking messages from thread that someone has stold (by applyng
> reply button, but actually starting his own thread).
> 
> It would be also useful to link together into threads mails that
> are related content, but are not threaded. For example:
> you had mail conversation with boss of the business partner and
> he ordered his secretary to mail you some documents. I would
> like to link boss'es and secretary's e-mails together. 

A total of 8 replies in that thread

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 08:58:57 +0100, "H.Merijn Brand" <h.m.brand at xs4all.nl> wrote:

> I'd like to create a plug-in that enables me to "correct" threads.
> 
> Even in 2014, almost 2015, there are numerous people that have no idea
> how mail works, and they reply in ways that completely ruin the normal
> flow of a discussion.  If they do it on purpose, or if it is the fault
> of their MC of choice I don't know, but I quite often want to keep the
> mail, but IN THE RIGHT SPOT in the discussion.
> 
> I envision a plug-in that enables drag-and-drop a mail on another mail
> in the list-view that modifies (or adds) the In-Reply-To header in the
> dragged mail to the Message-Id in the dropped-on mail.
> 
> This has been a feature I used quite often in Becky!, a MC on Windows.
> 
> I have done some coding in CM,  but I have no idea yet how above could
> be achieved yet. Any guidance would be appreciated.
> 
> If someone else likes the idea and implements that him/herself, I will
> not be offended :)

Probably the most interesting thread to read with a total of 10 replies

> Best,
> Paul

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From patrick.boettcher at posteo.de  Mon Jun  6 12:15:54 2016
From: patrick.boettcher at posteo.de (Patrick Boettcher)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 12:15:54 +0200
Subject: [Users] Assign out-of-thread mail to a thread
In-Reply-To: <20160606102630.3b2764e6@pc09.procura.nl>
References: <20160605224041.7f25989d@posteo.de>
 <20160606083020.42df3a00@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20160606102630.3b2764e6@pc09.procura.nl>
Message-ID: <20160606121554.17b53e7f@posteo.de>

Hi,

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 10:26:30 +0200
"H.Merijn Brand" <h.m.brand at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> But that still leaves a (lot of) mail that falls outside of the thread
> because the mail client used by the sender doesn't know how to follow
> the RFC's for correctly sending a reply.

I somewhere read, I think here on the list, that claws is following a
dogma of not altering mails on the server - except for some flags maybe.

Is that so?

That would kill this feature. 

> On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 08:58:57 +0100, "H.Merijn Brand"
> <h.m.brand at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> 
> > I'd like to create a plug-in that enables me to "correct" threads.

That was exactly the idea I had/dreamed of. Are there any news
concerning this development? Who was the developer?

Is such a plugin likely to be accepted for inclusion?

Who was the original person proposing to write this plugin?

regards,
--
Patrick.





From andrej at kacian.sk  Mon Jun  6 12:26:53 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 12:26:53 +0200
Subject: [Users] Assign out-of-thread mail to a thread
In-Reply-To: <20160606121554.17b53e7f@posteo.de>
References: <20160605224041.7f25989d@posteo.de>
 <20160606083020.42df3a00@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20160606102630.3b2764e6@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20160606121554.17b53e7f@posteo.de>
Message-ID: <20160606122653.02ba73ec@hiker>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 12:15:54 +0200
Patrick Boettcher <patrick.boettcher at posteo.de> wrote:

> > On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 08:58:57 +0100, "H.Merijn Brand"
> > <h.m.brand at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> >   
> > > I'd like to create a plug-in that enables me to "correct"
> > > threads.  
> 
> That was exactly the idea I had/dreamed of. Are there any news
> concerning this development? Who was the developer?
> 
> Is such a plugin likely to be accepted for inclusion?

Since we already have at least one plugin that modifies messages
(attachment remover), I'd say yes.

Or perhaps a better long-term solution would be to integrate both
att_remover and this hypothetical new plugin into a single "message
modifier" plugin that would itself be extendable. :)

Regards,
-- 
Andrej
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  6 13:01:26 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 11:01:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3650] New: Delete message with auto expunge option
 doesn't delete it.
Message-ID: <bug-3650-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3650

            Bug ID: 3650
           Summary: Delete message with auto expunge option doesn't delete
                    it.
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders/IMAP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: a.mv at gmx.fr

On an IMAP4 account with option "Move to trash and expunge immediately" a
message I want to delete remains in the Inbox marked as 'To be moved'. Forever.
If I deselect the option and use Expunge command directly it works, but the
message never goes to Trash. Just move to trash works as well.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  6 13:25:45 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 11:25:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3650] Delete message with auto expunge option doesn't
 delete it.
In-Reply-To: <bug-3650-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3650-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3650-595-FI6qOy5GXi@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3650

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
This is a bug that will be fixed in next release. For now, just keep the
account option enabled, and instead set the "Execute immediately when moving or
deleting messages" option in common preferences, Summaries page to what you
need.

See
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=a451a77a45d751008a663d3b5f08381a38654917
for details about the fix.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  6 18:04:20 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 16:04:20 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3650] Delete message with auto expunge option doesn't
 delete it.
In-Reply-To: <bug-3650-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3650-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3650-595-ZxN1VlAJgf@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3650

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #2 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
mark INVALID because it was already fixed in GIT before this item was created.

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From h.m.brand at xs4all.nl  Mon Jun  6 19:09:05 2016
From: h.m.brand at xs4all.nl (H.Merijn Brand)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 19:09:05 +0200
Subject: [Users] Assign out-of-thread mail to a thread
In-Reply-To: <20160606122653.02ba73ec@hiker>
References: <20160605224041.7f25989d@posteo.de>
 <20160606083020.42df3a00@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20160606102630.3b2764e6@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20160606121554.17b53e7f@posteo.de> <20160606122653.02ba73ec@hiker>
Message-ID: <20160606190905.7b1b9178@pc09.procura.nl>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 12:26:53 +0200, Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk>
wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 12:15:54 +0200
> Patrick Boettcher <patrick.boettcher at posteo.de> wrote:
> 
> > > On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 08:58:57 +0100, "H.Merijn Brand"
> > > <h.m.brand at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> > >     
>  [...]  
> > 
> > That was exactly the idea I had/dreamed of. Are there any news
> > concerning this development? Who was the developer?
> > 
> > Is such a plugin likely to be accepted for inclusion?  
> 
> Since we already have at least one plugin that modifies messages
> (attachment remover), I'd say yes.
> 
> Or perhaps a better long-term solution would be to integrate both
> att_remover and this hypothetical new plugin into a single "message
> modifier" plugin that would itself be extendable. :)
> 
> Regards,

I attached a perl script (modify the she-bang and the version if
appropriate) to account for 99% of the cases I want to use it for

Add it as an action as

	Menu name:	Reparent (fix threading)
	Command:	cm-reparent.pl %F

Select all messages that you want reparented in the list view and then
activate this action

All messages (except the oldest) will now reference to the oldest.


-- 
H.Merijn Brand  http://tux.nl   Perl Monger  http://amsterdam.pm.org/
using perl5.00307 .. 5.23   porting perl5 on HP-UX, AIX, and openSUSE
http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/        http://www.test-smoke.org/
http://qa.perl.org   http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/
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From epodata at gmail.com  Mon Jun  6 22:07:53 2016
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:07:53 +0200
Subject: [Users] Order of filtering and spam handling.
Message-ID: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>

It seems that spam handling kicks in before filtering. Can that be
altered?

-- 
Erik


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Mon Jun  6 22:21:30 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:21:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] Order of filtering and spam handling.
In-Reply-To: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20160606222130.41581d71@utnubu>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:07:53 +0200, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
>It seems that spam handling kicks in before filtering. Can that be
>altered?

In my experiences even the filter option "Match criteria: Flags, Flag
Spam is set" is useless for my POP accounts. Sorting spam in my
experiences is a weak point of Claws. To sort spam I'm using another
MUA, sharing ~/.bogofilter/ with Claws.



From cae at eslrahc.com  Mon Jun  6 22:20:55 2016
From: cae at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 16:20:55 -0400
Subject: [Users] Order of filtering and spam handling.
In-Reply-To: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20160606162055.1d0da658@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:07:53 +0200
Erik P. Olsen wrote:

> It seems that spam handling kicks in before filtering. Can that be
> altered?

Not if you are using a plugin for spam.

You can do it by unloading the plugin and than creating a filter to
check for spam and setting it as the last filter to be run.


    Charles

-- 
<Knghtbrd> RoboHak - okay, the patch isn't broken, but my brain
           apparently is
<wc> that's nothing new (;
<Knghtbrd> wc - hush.
<Knghtbrd> =>
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From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Mon Jun  6 22:27:37 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:27:37 +0200
Subject: [Users] Order of filtering and spam handling.
In-Reply-To: <20160606222130.41581d71@utnubu>
References: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160606222130.41581d71@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160606222737.0489081e@utnubu>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:21:30 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:07:53 +0200, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
>>It seems that spam handling kicks in before filtering. Can that be
>>altered?  
>
>In my experiences even the filter option "Match criteria: Flags, Flag
>Spam is set" is useless for my POP accounts. Sorting spam in my
>experiences is a weak point of Claws. To sort spam I'm using another
>MUA, sharing ~/.bogofilter/ with Claws.

PS: You could disable Claws' spam filtering and include it by the
"Execute" option of the filtering. I didn't test it, because it's less
work for me, to handle this with another MUA.



From cae at eslrahc.com  Mon Jun  6 22:37:27 2016
From: cae at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 16:37:27 -0400
Subject: [Users] Order of filtering and spam handling.
In-Reply-To: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20160606163727.47903774@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:07:53 +0200
Erik P. Olsen wrote:

> It seems that spam handling kicks in before filtering. Can that be
> altered?

Not if you are using a plugin for spam.

You can do it by unloading the plugin and than creating a filter to
check for spam and setting it as the last filter to be run.


    Charles

-- 
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           apparently is
<wc> that's nothing new (;
<Knghtbrd> wc - hush.
<Knghtbrd> =>
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From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Mon Jun  6 22:39:40 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:39:40 +0200
Subject: [Users] Order of filtering and spam handling.
In-Reply-To: <20160606162055.1d0da658@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
References: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160606162055.1d0da658@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
Message-ID: <20160606223940.6df4727f@utnubu>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 16:20:55 -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote:
>You can do it by unloading the plugin and than creating a filter to
>check for spam and setting it as the last filter to be run.

If it's the last filter rule, then you gain nothing, if you want to
sort spam, e.g.
if flag spam is set and from contains .com then move to foo
if flag spam is set and from contains .ru  then move to bar

Regards,
Ralf



From cae at eslrahc.com  Mon Jun  6 22:48:45 2016
From: cae at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 16:48:45 -0400
Subject: [Users] Order of filtering and spam handling.
In-Reply-To: <20160606223940.6df4727f@utnubu>
References: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160606162055.1d0da658@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20160606223940.6df4727f@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160606164845.7b430e35@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:39:40 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> >You can do it by unloading the plugin and than creating a filter to
> >check for spam and setting it as the last filter to be run.  
> 
> If it's the last filter rule, then you gain nothing, if you want to
> sort spam, e.g.
> if flag spam is set and from contains .com then move to foo
> if flag spam is set and from contains .ru  then move to bar

But that Was Not the question he asked.
He wanted the spam check done after filtering.


    Charles

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It is not acceptable to shoot first.
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From nc at oceantron.com  Mon Jun  6 22:51:32 2016
From: nc at oceantron.com (Kyle)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 16:51:32 -0400
Subject: [Users] Order of filtering and spam handling.
In-Reply-To: <20160606222130.41581d71@utnubu>
References: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160606222130.41581d71@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160606165132.00002e40@unknown>

Instead of Flag Spam, why not just set a tag of $Junk for
messages that are spam? Works for me. 


On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:21:30 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <silver.bullet at zoho.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:07:53 +0200, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
> >It seems that spam handling kicks in before filtering. Can
> >that be altered?
> 
> In my experiences even the filter option "Match criteria:
> Flags, Flag Spam is set" is useless for my POP accounts.
> Sorting spam in my experiences is a weak point of Claws. To
> sort spam I'm using another MUA, sharing ~/.bogofilter/ with
> Claws.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users



From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Mon Jun  6 22:53:23 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:53:23 +0200
Subject: [Users] Order of filtering and spam handling.
In-Reply-To: <20160606223940.6df4727f@utnubu>
References: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160606162055.1d0da658@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20160606223940.6df4727f@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160606225323.7c48e9d2@utnubu>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:39:40 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 16:20:55 -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote:
>>You can do it by unloading the plugin and than creating a filter to
>>check for spam and setting it as the last filter to be run.  
>
>If it's the last filter rule, then you gain nothing, if you want to
>sort spam, e.g.
>if flag spam is set and from contains .com then move to foo
>if flag spam is set and from contains .ru  then move to bar

I suspect the issue the OP experiences is, that after a plugin sorted
out spam, the filtering doesn't affect the spam. Perhaps the OP really
wants just that after the sorting is done, spam is marked as spam,
without an additional sorting, but often it's wanted to sort mail after
it was detected as spam.



From lbickley at bickleywest.com  Mon Jun  6 23:06:53 2016
From: lbickley at bickleywest.com (Lyle Bickley)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 14:06:53 -0700
Subject: [Users] adjusting font size displayed by the "fancy" plugin
Message-ID: <20160606140653.4a3f84dc@asrock.bcwi.net>

I have tried unsuccessfully to create several CSS stylesheets to
correct the default "fancy" plugin font size of 6 or 8 points. None of
my stylesheets had any effect on font size - including one which adjusts
the size of font depending on the size of the screen. All were copied
from known running sources.

Does someone have stylesheets that are known to work with this plugin?

I'm running: Claws version 3.13.2-120-ge630ef

System Information:
GTK+ 2.24.28 / GLib 2.42.2
Locale: en_US.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8)
Operating System: Linux 3.16.6-2-desktop (x86_64)

Regards,
Lyle
-- 
73      AF6WS
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com

"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"


From epodata at gmail.com  Mon Jun  6 23:10:05 2016
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 23:10:05 +0200
Subject: [Users] Order of filtering and spam handling.
In-Reply-To: <20160606225323.7c48e9d2@utnubu>
References: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160606162055.1d0da658@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20160606223940.6df4727f@utnubu> <20160606225323.7c48e9d2@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160606231005.2b5912af@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>

On 2016-06-06 at 22:53:23 Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:39:40 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 16:20:55 -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote:  
> >>You can do it by unloading the plugin and than creating a filter to
> >>check for spam and setting it as the last filter to be run.    
> >
> >If it's the last filter rule, then you gain nothing, if you want to
> >sort spam, e.g.
> >if flag spam is set and from contains .com then move to foo
> >if flag spam is set and from contains .ru  then move to bar  
> 
> I suspect the issue the OP experiences is, that after a plugin sorted
> out spam, the filtering doesn't affect the spam. Perhaps the OP really
> wants just that after the sorting is done, spam is marked as spam,
> without an additional sorting, but often it's wanted to sort mail
> after it was detected as spam.

My spam folder gets filled up at an increasing speed. Some are negativ
hits which I don't want deleted but others come every day and sometimes
more than once and these I want to filter out to delete. I haven't as
yet found out how to do it but I'll see if some of the advice I have
received can be used.

Thanks to all for your advice.

-- 
Erik



From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Mon Jun  6 23:10:42 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 23:10:42 +0200
Subject: [Users] Order of filtering and spam handling.
In-Reply-To: <20160606165132.00002e40@unknown>
References: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160606222130.41581d71@utnubu> <20160606165132.00002e40@unknown>
Message-ID: <20160606231042.36628ea8@utnubu>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 16:51:32 -0400, Kyle wrote:
>On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:21:30 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:07:53 +0200, Erik P. Olsen wrote:  
>> >It seems that spam handling kicks in before filtering. Can
>> >that be altered?  
>> 
>> In my experiences even the filter option "Match criteria:
>> Flags, Flag Spam is set" is useless for my POP accounts.
>> Sorting spam in my experiences is a weak point of Claws. To
>> sort spam I'm using another MUA, sharing ~/.bogofilter/ with
>> Claws.
>Instead of Flag Spam, why not just set a tag of $Junk for
>messages that are spam? Works for me.

There is no "Match criteria: Tag" provided by the filtering, by

Configuration > Filtering... > Condition Define... > Match criteria:

"Tag" is shadowed, not available.

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 16:48:45 -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote:
>But that Was Not the question he asked.
>He wanted the spam check done after filtering.

Yes and that can be done as you and I described. For good reasons it's
just unusual to apply filters and at last check against spam.

There might be differences for POP and IMAP.

Regards,
Ralf




From myetto1 at nycap.rr.com  Mon Jun  6 23:30:43 2016
From: myetto1 at nycap.rr.com (Michael A. Yetto)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 17:30:43 -0400
Subject: [Users] Order of filtering and spam handling.
In-Reply-To: <20160606231005.2b5912af@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160606162055.1d0da658@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20160606223940.6df4727f@utnubu> <20160606225323.7c48e9d2@utnubu>
 <20160606231005.2b5912af@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20160606173043.0a409148@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 23:10:05 +0200
"Erik P. Olsen" <epodata at gmail.com> wrote:

>My spam folder gets filled up at an increasing speed. Some are negativ
>hits which I don't want deleted but others come every day and sometimes
>more than once and these I want to filter out to delete. I haven't as
>yet found out how to do it but I'll see if some of the advice I have
>received can be used.
>
>Thanks to all for your advice.

Try going to Preferences / Bogofilter and and check When unsure, move
to <#mh/Mailbox/inbox/spam-suspect>,  or some other filter. Just check
and classify what is in there until Bogofilter has a better handle on
your criteria.

Mike Yetto
-- 
"The difference between faith and insanity is that faith is the ability
to hold firmly to a conclusion that is incompatible with the evidence,
whereas insanity is the ability to hold firmly to a conclusion that is
incompatible with the evidence."
 - William Harwood
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From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Mon Jun  6 23:35:24 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 23:35:24 +0200
Subject: [Users] Order of filtering and spam handling.
In-Reply-To: <20160606231005.2b5912af@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160606162055.1d0da658@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20160606223940.6df4727f@utnubu> <20160606225323.7c48e9d2@utnubu>
 <20160606231005.2b5912af@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20160606233524.7580cc71@utnubu>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 23:10:05 +0200, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
>My spam folder gets filled up at an increasing speed. Some are negativ
>hits which I don't want deleted but others come every day and sometimes
>more than once and these I want to filter out to delete. I haven't as
>yet found out how to do it but I'll see if some of the advice I have
>received can be used.

If possible I try to handle this kind of special junk by the ISP's
filter, while I usually disable the ISP junk filter options and use
bogofilter when retrieving mails.

Some ISP allow to ban mails by different useful or not that
useful filter options. If possible I'm using this, so I don't get such
mails at all. Usually this works, if a mail has got always the same
email address. Unfortunately wildcards, resp. address or subject or ...
"contains" usually isn't provided or not working.

How to handle this might be different for IMAP and POP, but at least
for POP accounts I can avoid to download some unwanted mails, when
using the ISP filter for those mails.



From brad at fineby.me.uk  Mon Jun  6 23:35:17 2016
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:35:17 +0100
Subject: [Users] Order of filtering and spam handling.
In-Reply-To: <20160606231005.2b5912af@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160606162055.1d0da658@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20160606223940.6df4727f@utnubu> <20160606225323.7c48e9d2@utnubu>
 <20160606231005.2b5912af@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20160606223517.22ac4c42@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 23:10:05 +0200
"Erik P. Olsen" <epodata at gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Erik,

>more than once and these I want to filter out to delete.

I'd delete them at the server.  Of course, there has to be some common
element that recurs for you to create a delete filter that works
successfully.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
Two sides to every story
Public Image - Public Image Ltd
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From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Mon Jun  6 23:47:43 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 23:47:43 +0200
Subject: [Users] Order of filtering and spam handling.
In-Reply-To: <20160606173043.0a409148@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
References: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160606162055.1d0da658@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20160606223940.6df4727f@utnubu> <20160606225323.7c48e9d2@utnubu>
 <20160606231005.2b5912af@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160606173043.0a409148@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
Message-ID: <20160606234743.735bd67d@utnubu>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 17:30:43 -0400, Michael A. Yetto wrote:
>On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 23:10:05 +0200
>"Erik P. Olsen" <epodata at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>My spam folder gets filled up at an increasing speed. Some are negativ
>>hits which I don't want deleted but others come every day and
>>sometimes more than once and these I want to filter out to delete. I
>>haven't as yet found out how to do it but I'll see if some of the
>>advice I have received can be used.
>>
>>Thanks to all for your advice.  
>
>Try going to Preferences / Bogofilter and and check When unsure, move
>to <#mh/Mailbox/inbox/spam-suspect>,  or some other filter. Just check
>and classify what is in there until Bogofilter has a better handle on
>your criteria.

Bogofilter should decide to delete or to be unsure ;)? This is asking
for trouble, an option that is just useful for some people. It's better
to always check mails marked as spam and mails that are definitively,
without any doubt spam + send in high ammounts, should be deleted by a
filter rule, or as already mentioned, better directly get banned by the
ISP filters.



From cae at eslrahc.com  Mon Jun  6 23:48:59 2016
From: cae at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 17:48:59 -0400
Subject: [Users] Order of filtering and spam handling.
In-Reply-To: <20160606231042.36628ea8@utnubu>
References: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160606222130.41581d71@utnubu> <20160606165132.00002e40@unknown>
 <20160606231042.36628ea8@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160606174859.0c2a2a72@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 23:10:42 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> >But that Was Not the question he asked.
> >He wanted the spam check done after filtering.  
> 
> Yes and that can be done as you and I described. For good reasons it's
> just unusual to apply filters and at last check against spam.
> 
> There might be differences for POP and IMAP.

Mine is POP3

For all folders I use, except for inbox, either the individual sender
or the list is whitelisted.

I can recall maybe 3 spam in all the folders in 10 yrs.

All other spam and other crap are in the inbox and it is on these
mails that the filter would be run.

Filer:
Condition: test "/usr/bin/bogofilter -u < %F"
Action:    color 3 move "#mh/Mailbox/inbox/SPAMBOX" 

Then I would use an action for mark spam|ham, unlearn spam|ham and
others.

I used that before there was bogofilter-plugin, but have used the
plugin since its incorporation.
Unlike bsfilter of windows, bogofilter on linux takes almost no time.

There many right ways to use bogofilter.
The specifics are just a matter of preference. 


    Charles   


-- 
"Most of us, when all is said and done, like what we like and make up
reasons for it afterwards."
-- Soren F. Petersen
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Mageia release 6 (Cauldron) for x86_64$
On SuperSize....http://www.eslrahc.com
Registered Linux user #182463
4.6.1-server-1.mga6 x86_64
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From boxcars at gmx.net  Tue Jun  7 00:15:55 2016
From: boxcars at gmx.net (=?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?=)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 17:15:55 -0500
Subject: [Users] adjusting font size displayed by the "fancy" plugin
References: <20160606140653.4a3f84dc@asrock.bcwi.net>
Message-ID: <20160606171555.0f6813ed@sepulchrave.remarqs>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 14:06:53 -0700
Lyle Bickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com> wrote:

> I have tried unsuccessfully to create several CSS stylesheets to
> correct the default "fancy" plugin font size of 6 or 8 points. None of
> my stylesheets had any effect on font size - including one which
> adjusts the size of font depending on the size of the screen. All
> were copied from known running sources.
> 
> Does someone have stylesheets that are known to work with this plugin?

This works for me:

* { font-family : "Dejavu Mono", Monospace; font-size : 13pt }

I've got some other stuff in the css file, but that's the only rule
that handles font size.



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun  7 00:18:13 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 23:18:13 +0100
Subject: [Users] Order of filtering and spam handling.
In-Reply-To: <20160606231042.36628ea8@utnubu>
References: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160606222130.41581d71@utnubu> <20160606165132.00002e40@unknown>
 <20160606231042.36628ea8@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160606231813.41004d47@kujata>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 23:10:42 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <silver.bullet at zoho.com> wrote: 

> There is no "Match criteria: Tag" provided by the filtering, by
> 
> Configuration > Filtering... > Condition Define... > Match criteria:
> 
> "Tag" is shadowed, not available.

The Tag needs to exist before you can match it, so if you don't have
any Tags the Tag match criteria is greyed out. Create the Tag you
want to use.

with regards

Paul


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Tue Jun  7 00:19:44 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 00:19:44 +0200
Subject: [Users] Order of filtering and spam handling.
In-Reply-To: <20160606174859.0c2a2a72@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
References: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160606222130.41581d71@utnubu> <20160606165132.00002e40@unknown>
 <20160606231042.36628ea8@utnubu>
 <20160606174859.0c2a2a72@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
Message-ID: <20160607001944.230a33c3@utnubu>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 17:48:59 -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote:
>There many right ways to use bogofilter.
>The specifics are just a matter of preference.

Regarding the OP's goal IMO the best approach is what Brad and I
mentioned, to delete or ban the mails on the server. I don't know what
features are provided by gmail.com and what ever else the OP might
use, but usually it's not an issue to at least ban mails that
always are sent from the same email address, smarter filters sometimes
aren't provided or they don't work. I wouldn't expect reg
ex/wildcards, resp. "if ... contains, then ..." options do work. This
likely isn't an issue when running your own server, but when using an
ISP's email service the available filters usually is weak and buggy.



From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Tue Jun  7 00:27:30 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 00:27:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] Order of filtering and spam handling.
In-Reply-To: <20160606231813.41004d47@kujata>
References: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160606222130.41581d71@utnubu> <20160606165132.00002e40@unknown>
 <20160606231042.36628ea8@utnubu> <20160606231813.41004d47@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160607002730.0f67ea0c@utnubu>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 23:18:13 +0100, Paul wrote:
>On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 23:10:42 +0200
>Ralf Mardorf <silver.bullet at zoho.com> wrote: 
>
>> There is no "Match criteria: Tag" provided by the filtering, by
>> 
>> Configuration > Filtering... > Condition Define... > Match criteria:
>> 
>> "Tag" is shadowed, not available.  
>
>The Tag needs to exist before you can match it, so if you don't have
>any Tags the Tag match criteria is greyed out. Create the Tag you
>want to use.

Yes, the point is, that something needs to add a tag, but I was
speaking about sorting, after the bogofilter plugin has marked messages
as spam.

However, for the goal the OP described (unfortunately not by the first
mail), it doesn't matter. It should be no issue for the OP.

Regards,
Ralf



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun  7 00:40:49 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 23:40:49 +0100
Subject: [Users] Order of filtering and spam handling.
In-Reply-To: <20160606231005.2b5912af@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160606162055.1d0da658@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20160606223940.6df4727f@utnubu> <20160606225323.7c48e9d2@utnubu>
 <20160606231005.2b5912af@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20160606234049.152e90e1@kujata>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 23:10:05 +0200
"Erik P. Olsen" <epodata at gmail.com> wrote: 

> My spam folder gets filled up at an increasing speed. Some are
> negativ hits which I don't want deleted but others come every day
> and sometimes more than once and these I want to filter out to
> delete. I haven't as yet found out how to do it but I'll see if
> some of the advice I have received can be used.

Another option, not yet mentioned, is this.

Configure the Bogofilter plugin to 'Only mark as spam', then in your
final filtering rule use the Condition 'Flags' - 'Spam' is Set, and
an Action to delete or move (as you require). If those messages that
you don't want to delete are moved to a sub-folder in a preceding
rule then they will not be deleted.

Another possibility is to use the Bogofilter plugin option, 'Whitelist
senders found in address book ....'.

You might just find that training bogofilter will work. Use 'Mark as
Ham' on those false positives.

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun  7 00:42:49 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 23:42:49 +0100
Subject: [Users] Order of filtering and spam handling.
In-Reply-To: <20160607002730.0f67ea0c@utnubu>
References: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160606222130.41581d71@utnubu> <20160606165132.00002e40@unknown>
 <20160606231042.36628ea8@utnubu> <20160606231813.41004d47@kujata>
 <20160607002730.0f67ea0c@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160606234249.690a9d8e@kujata>

On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 00:27:30 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <silver.bullet at zoho.com> wrote: 

> Yes, the point is, that something needs to add a tag, but I was
> speaking about sorting, after the bogofilter plugin has marked
> messages as spam.

The filtering Action will set a Tag, not create a new Tag. You can
create your Tag and then use a filtering rule to 'add' it to a
message. 

with regards

Paul


From lbickley at bickleywest.com  Tue Jun  7 01:01:42 2016
From: lbickley at bickleywest.com (Lyle Bickley)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 16:01:42 -0700
Subject: [Users] adjusting font size displayed by the "fancy" plugin
In-Reply-To: <20160606171555.0f6813ed@sepulchrave.remarqs>
References: <20160606140653.4a3f84dc@asrock.bcwi.net>
 <20160606171555.0f6813ed@sepulchrave.remarqs>
Message-ID: <20160606160142.05000336@asrock.bcwi.net>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 17:15:55 -0500
»Q« <boxcars at gmx.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 14:06:53 -0700
> Lyle Bickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com> wrote:
> 
> > I have tried unsuccessfully to create several CSS stylesheets to
> > correct the default "fancy" plugin font size of 6 or 8 points. None
> > of my stylesheets had any effect on font size - including one which
> > adjusts the size of font depending on the size of the screen. All
> > were copied from known running sources.
> > 
> > Does someone have stylesheets that are known to work with this
> > plugin?  
> 
> This works for me:
> 
> * { font-family : "Dejavu Mono", Monospace; font-size : 13pt }
> 
> I've got some other stuff in the css file, but that's the only rule
> that handles font size.

Thanks for the quick reply!

I tried it - and it also failed. So it must be something else I'm doing
wrong.

I put your stylesheet rule into a file named "mstyle" and pointed to it
via the configuration/preferences/plugin/Fancy browse. I
initially just "applied" the change and subsequently restarted claws.
In both cases I still got a super tiny font output from "Fancy"....

Lyle 


> 
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users



-- 
73      AF6WS
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com

"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"


From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Tue Jun  7 01:21:16 2016
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 16:21:16 -0700
Subject: [Users] adjusting font size displayed by the "fancy" plugin
In-Reply-To: <20160606171555.0f6813ed@sepulchrave.remarqs>
References: <20160606140653.4a3f84dc@asrock.bcwi.net>
 <20160606171555.0f6813ed@sepulchrave.remarqs>
Message-ID: <20160606162116.2d628a91@frogguski.911networks.com>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 17:15:55 -0500
»Q« <boxcars at gmx.net> wrote:

>This works for me:
>
>* { font-family : "Dejavu Mono", Monospace; font-size : 13pt }
>
>I've got some other stuff in the css file, but that's the only rule
>that handles font size.

What would be the name and location of the css file?

Thanks


-- 
sknahT

vyS


From boxcars at gmx.net  Tue Jun  7 03:15:17 2016
From: boxcars at gmx.net (=?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?=)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 20:15:17 -0500
Subject: [Users] adjusting font size displayed by the "fancy" plugin
References: <20160606140653.4a3f84dc@asrock.bcwi.net>
 <20160606171555.0f6813ed@sepulchrave.remarqs>
 <20160606162116.2d628a91@frogguski.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20160606201517.10b1bba0@sepulchrave.remarqs>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 16:21:16 -0700
sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 17:15:55 -0500
> »Q« <boxcars at gmx.net> wrote:
> 
> >This works for me:
> >
> > * { font-family : "Dejavu Mono", Monospace; font-size : 13pt }
> >
> >I've got some other stuff in the css file, but that's the only rule
> >that handles font size.  
> 
> What would be the name and location of the css file?

Mine is $HOME/.claws-mail/fancy-styling.css but the location is
configurable via Fancy's options.





From lbickley at bickleywest.com  Tue Jun  7 07:11:08 2016
From: lbickley at bickleywest.com (Lyle Bickley)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:11:08 -0700
Subject: [Users] adjusting font size displayed by the "fancy" plugin
In-Reply-To: <20160606201517.10b1bba0@sepulchrave.remarqs>
References: <20160606140653.4a3f84dc@asrock.bcwi.net>
 <20160606171555.0f6813ed@sepulchrave.remarqs>
 <20160606162116.2d628a91@frogguski.911networks.com>
 <20160606201517.10b1bba0@sepulchrave.remarqs>
Message-ID: <20160606221108.093d3264@asrock.bcwi.net>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 20:15:17 -0500
»Q« <boxcars at gmx.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 16:21:16 -0700
> sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 17:15:55 -0500
> > »Q« <boxcars at gmx.net> wrote:
> >   
> > >This works for me:
> > >
> > > * { font-family : "Dejavu Mono", Monospace; font-size : 13pt }
> > >
> > >I've got some other stuff in the css file, but that's the only rule
> > >that handles font size.    
> > 
> > What would be the name and location of the css file?  
> 
> Mine is $HOME/.claws-mail/fancy-styling.css but the location is
> configurable via Fancy's options.

Is the above snippet the complete contents of the file?

Are you running a Linux or Windows version of claws?

Lyle

-- 
73      AF6WS
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com

"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"


From ricardo at mones.org  Tue Jun  7 12:07:21 2016
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 12:07:21 +0200
Subject: [Users] Assign out-of-thread mail to a thread
In-Reply-To: <20160606190905.7b1b9178@pc09.procura.nl>
References: <20160605224041.7f25989d@posteo.de>
 <20160606083020.42df3a00@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20160606102630.3b2764e6@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20160606121554.17b53e7f@posteo.de> <20160606122653.02ba73ec@hiker>
 <20160606190905.7b1b9178@pc09.procura.nl>
Message-ID: <20160607100721.GA3025@busgosu.mones.org>

Hi,

On Mon, Jun 06, 2016 at 07:09:05PM +0200, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
[…]
> I attached a perl script (modify the she-bang and the version if
> appropriate) to account for 99% of the cases I want to use it for
> 
> Add it as an action as
> 
> 	Menu name:	Reparent (fix threading)
> 	Command:	cm-reparent.pl %F
> 
> Select all messages that you want reparented in the list view and then
> activate this action
> 
> All messages (except the oldest) will now reference to the oldest.

I'd like to add it to our tools directory, is it licensed somehow? :)

regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  Don't take the name of root in vain.          /usr/src/linux/README

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From h.m.brand at xs4all.nl  Tue Jun  7 12:39:27 2016
From: h.m.brand at xs4all.nl (H.Merijn Brand)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 12:39:27 +0200
Subject: [Users] Assign out-of-thread mail to a thread
In-Reply-To: <20160607100721.GA3025@busgosu.mones.org>
References: <20160605224041.7f25989d@posteo.de>
 <20160606083020.42df3a00@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20160606102630.3b2764e6@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20160606121554.17b53e7f@posteo.de> <20160606122653.02ba73ec@hiker>
 <20160606190905.7b1b9178@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20160607100721.GA3025@busgosu.mones.org>
Message-ID: <20160607123927.28932f91@pc09.procura.nl>

On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 12:07:21 +0200, Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, Jun 06, 2016 at 07:09:05PM +0200, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
> […]
> > I attached a perl script (modify the she-bang and the version if
> > appropriate) to account for 99% of the cases I want to use it for
> > 
> > Add it as an action as
> > 
> > 	Menu name:	Reparent (fix threading)
> > 	Command:	cm-reparent.pl %F
> > 
> > Select all messages that you want reparented in the list view and then
> > activate this action
> > 
> > All messages (except the oldest) will now reference to the oldest.  
> 
> I'd like to add it to our tools directory, is it licensed somehow? :)

Artistic License if you want a license:

Attached is a cleaner version with minimal docs at he end and version
and copyright info

This'll do?

FWIW, feel free to change the first line to #!/usr/bin/perl :)
personally I never use system perl

> regards,


-- 
H.Merijn Brand  http://tux.nl   Perl Monger  http://amsterdam.pm.org/
using perl5.00307 .. 5.23   porting perl5 on HP-UX, AIX, and openSUSE
http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/        http://www.test-smoke.org/
http://qa.perl.org   http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/
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From ricardo at mones.org  Tue Jun  7 13:06:03 2016
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 13:06:03 +0200
Subject: [Users] Assign out-of-thread mail to a thread
In-Reply-To: <20160607123927.28932f91@pc09.procura.nl>
References: <20160605224041.7f25989d@posteo.de>
 <20160606083020.42df3a00@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20160606102630.3b2764e6@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20160606121554.17b53e7f@posteo.de> <20160606122653.02ba73ec@hiker>
 <20160606190905.7b1b9178@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20160607100721.GA3025@busgosu.mones.org>
 <20160607123927.28932f91@pc09.procura.nl>
Message-ID: <20160607110603.GA10910@busgosu.mones.org>

On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 12:39:27PM +0200, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 12:07:21 +0200, Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Mon, Jun 06, 2016 at 07:09:05PM +0200, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
> > […]
> > > I attached a perl script (modify the she-bang and the version if
> > > appropriate) to account for 99% of the cases I want to use it for
> > > 
> > > Add it as an action as
> > > 
> > > 	Menu name:	Reparent (fix threading)
> > > 	Command:	cm-reparent.pl %F
> > > 
> > > Select all messages that you want reparented in the list view and then
> > > activate this action
> > > 
> > > All messages (except the oldest) will now reference to the oldest.  
> > 
> > I'd like to add it to our tools directory, is it licensed somehow? :)
> 
> Artistic License if you want a license:
> 
> Attached is a cleaner version with minimal docs at he end and version
> and copyright info
> 
> This'll do?

Sure, it's already on git master ;-) Thanks!

> FWIW, feel free to change the first line to #!/usr/bin/perl :)
> personally I never use system perl

I did. I guess it's common to use it until you have to deal with
several perl versions ;)

best regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  RTFM - "Read The Manual" (The 'F' is silent). Usually a very good 
  idea.                                             Bjarne Stroustrup

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From boxcars at gmx.net  Tue Jun  7 14:40:34 2016
From: boxcars at gmx.net (=?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?=)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 07:40:34 -0500
Subject: [Users] adjusting font size displayed by the "fancy" plugin
References: <20160606140653.4a3f84dc@asrock.bcwi.net>
 <20160606171555.0f6813ed@sepulchrave.remarqs>
 <20160606162116.2d628a91@frogguski.911networks.com>
 <20160606201517.10b1bba0@sepulchrave.remarqs>
 <20160606221108.093d3264@asrock.bcwi.net>
Message-ID: <20160607074034.4d9d5406@sepulchrave.remarqs>

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:11:08 -0700
Lyle Bickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com> wrote:

> From: Lyle Bickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com>
> Organization: Bickley Consulting West Inc.
> To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
> Subject: Re: adjusting font size displayed by the "fancy" plugin
> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:11:08 -0700
> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2-120-ge630ef (GTK+ 2.24.28;
> x86_64-suse-linux-gnu) Newsgroups: gmane.mail.sylpheed.claws.general
> 
> On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 20:15:17 -0500
> »Q« <boxcars at gmx.net> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 16:21:16 -0700
> > sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:
> >   
> > > On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 17:15:55 -0500
> > > »Q« <boxcars at gmx.net> wrote:
> > >     
> > > >This works for me:
> > > >
> > > > * { font-family : "Dejavu Mono", Monospace; font-size : 13pt }
> > > >
> > > >I've got some other stuff in the css file, but that's the only
> > > >rule that handles font size.      
> > > 
> > > What would be the name and location of the css file?    
> > 
> > Mine is $HOME/.claws-mail/fancy-styling.css but the location is
> > configurable via Fancy's options.  
> 
> Is the above snippet the complete contents of the file?
> 
> Are you running a Linux or Windows version of claws?

A Gentoo build, Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.29; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)

Here's the entire file:

* { font-family : "Dejavu Mono", Monospace; font-size : 13pt }

body { background-color : white ! important ; color : black ! important }

blockquote { background-color : #EEF; padding : 1em }

blockquote>blockquote { background-color : #DDF }

blockquote>blockquote>blockquote { background-color : #CCF }



From lbickley at bickleywest.com  Tue Jun  7 17:03:28 2016
From: lbickley at bickleywest.com (Lyle Bickley)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 08:03:28 -0700
Subject: [Users] adjusting font size displayed by the "fancy" plugin
In-Reply-To: <20160607074034.4d9d5406@sepulchrave.remarqs>
References: <20160606140653.4a3f84dc@asrock.bcwi.net>
 <20160606171555.0f6813ed@sepulchrave.remarqs>
 <20160606162116.2d628a91@frogguski.911networks.com>
 <20160606201517.10b1bba0@sepulchrave.remarqs>
 <20160606221108.093d3264@asrock.bcwi.net>
 <20160607074034.4d9d5406@sepulchrave.remarqs>
Message-ID: <20160607080328.59220acd@asrock.bcwi.net>

On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 07:40:34 -0500
»Q« <boxcars at gmx.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:11:08 -0700
> Lyle Bickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: Lyle Bickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com>
> > Organization: Bickley Consulting West Inc.
> > To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
> > Subject: Re: adjusting font size displayed by the "fancy" plugin
> > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:11:08 -0700
> > X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2-120-ge630ef (GTK+ 2.24.28;
> > x86_64-suse-linux-gnu) Newsgroups: gmane.mail.sylpheed.claws.general
> > 
> > On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 20:15:17 -0500
> > »Q« <boxcars at gmx.net> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 16:21:16 -0700
> > > sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:
> > >     
> > > > On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 17:15:55 -0500
> > > > »Q« <boxcars at gmx.net> wrote:
> > > >       
> > > > >This works for me:
> > > > >
> > > > > * { font-family : "Dejavu Mono", Monospace; font-size : 13pt }
> > > > >
> > > > >I've got some other stuff in the css file, but that's the only
> > > > >rule that handles font size.        
> > > > 
> > > > What would be the name and location of the css file?      
> > > 
> > > Mine is $HOME/.claws-mail/fancy-styling.css but the location is
> > > configurable via Fancy's options.    
> > 
> > Is the above snippet the complete contents of the file?
> > 
> > Are you running a Linux or Windows version of claws?  
> 
> A Gentoo build, Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.29; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
> 
> Here's the entire file:
> 
> * { font-family : "Dejavu Mono", Monospace; font-size : 13pt }
> 
> body { background-color : white ! important ; color : black !
> important }
> 
> blockquote { background-color : #EEF; padding : 1em }
> 
> blockquote>blockquote { background-color : #DDF }  
> 
> blockquote>blockquote>blockquote { background-color : #CCF }  
> 

That worked. I'm not sure why the earlier snippet didn't - but at this
point, I'm a "happy camper".

Thanks again for your help!

Cheers,
Lyle

-- 
73      AF6WS
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com

"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"


From boxcars at gmx.net  Tue Jun  7 17:44:55 2016
From: boxcars at gmx.net (=?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?=)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 10:44:55 -0500
Subject: [Users] adjusting font size displayed by the "fancy" plugin
References: <20160606140653.4a3f84dc@asrock.bcwi.net>
 <20160606171555.0f6813ed@sepulchrave.remarqs>
 <20160606162116.2d628a91@frogguski.911networks.com>
 <20160606201517.10b1bba0@sepulchrave.remarqs>
 <20160606221108.093d3264@asrock.bcwi.net>
 <20160607074034.4d9d5406@sepulchrave.remarqs>
 <20160607080328.59220acd@asrock.bcwi.net>
Message-ID: <20160607104455.40e98997@sepulchrave.remarqs>

On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 08:03:28 -0700
Lyle Bickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com> wrote:

> That worked. I'm not sure why the earlier snippet didn't - but at this
> point, I'm a "happy camper".
> 
> Thanks again for your help!

I have no idea why that worked when nothing else did, but I'm glad
you've got it sorted.  :)



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun  8 09:07:50 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2016 07:07:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2802] Display headers in message view when rendering
	with Fancy
In-Reply-To: <bug-2802-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2802-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2802-595-kTfDkfjEf7@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2802

--- Comment #10 from Salvatore De Paolis <iwkse at claws-mail.org> ---
Heya Andrej,
sorry for the delay, unfortunately I cannot find that patch anymore, but as I
recall it wasn't so near to be completed. I still believe as a kind of
workaround is good to enable the option in the message view > text options >
Display header pane above message view.
This is going to show only a little of the headers,

*Waves*

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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Wed Jun  8 16:58:55 2016
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 10:58:55 -0400
Subject: [Users] The move function is difficult
Message-ID: <20160608105855.322a47c4@mydesk.domain.cxm>

Hi all,

The move functionality is difficult to use. First, the destination tree
opens fully expanded, so instead of drilling down to the desired
destination, the user must scroll and eye scan through all sorts of
directories in individually alphabetized levels. By the time it's over,
whatever train of thought I had is gone.

Theoretically, the user has a second method: Typing the folder into the
input field at the bottom. Only problem is, that doesn't work: It
doesn't recognize keystrokes, either backspace or characters.

SteveT

Steve Litt 
== Whose business shall never be mentioned on the Claws-Mail List ==


From ricardo at mones.org  Wed Jun  8 17:04:06 2016
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 17:04:06 +0200
Subject: [Users] The move function is difficult
In-Reply-To: <20160608105855.322a47c4@mydesk.domain.cxm>
References: <20160608105855.322a47c4@mydesk.domain.cxm>
Message-ID: <20160608150406.GA11317@busgosu.mones.org>

On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 10:58:55AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi all,
[…]
> Theoretically, the user has a second method: Typing the folder into the
> input field at the bottom. Only problem is, that doesn't work: It
> doesn't recognize keystrokes, either backspace or characters.

Keep the tree focused and start typing. The tree is searched and the
input field is updated with the selected folder.

If you focus the input field it's supposed you're going to type the
folder name yourself, not by searching the tree.

HTH,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  Datei nicht gefunden                                     Fehler 404

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun  9 02:47:44 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2016 00:47:44 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3651] New: Duplicate notifications are displayed
Message-ID: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3651

            Bug ID: 3651
           Summary: Duplicate notifications are displayed
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.13.2
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Notification
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: edwardp at linuxmail.org

Created attachment 1654
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1654&action=edit
Screenshot showing duplicate notifications

I have Claws Mail 3.13.2 installed under Fedora (64-bit) and I've noticed
duplicate notifications appearing when e-mail is received with Claws Mail. I am
attaching a small screenshot showing both of the notification icons in the
taskbar. This particular screenshot is coming from the LXDE desktop.

Not sure why this is happening, whether it is a bug, or if it's something
specific to Fedora.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun  9 08:28:38 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2016 06:28:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3651] Duplicate notifications are displayed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3651-595-Tcf9prtYwq@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3651

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
What Claws Mail icon theme are you using?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun  9 23:52:59 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2016 21:52:59 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3651] Duplicate notifications are displayed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3651

--- Comment #2 from Edward <edwardp at linuxmail.org> ---
Hi Paul.

It's the 'Default internal theme'.

(Past Linux distros I used, included the 'claws-mail-themes' package, however
Fedora does not currently offer this package.)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 10 07:21:46 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 05:21:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3651] Duplicate notifications are displayed
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3651

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #3 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
In that case I'll close this. Neither of those envelope icons in your screen
shot come from Claws Mail.

(BTW, you don't need a package for the themes, you can just download them from
http://www.claws-mail.org/themes.php and untar them into ~/.claws-mail/themes/)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 10 19:14:27 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 17:14:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3651] Duplicate notifications are displayed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3651

--- Comment #4 from Edward <edwardp at linuxmail.org> ---
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Task bar showing original envelope upon launch of Claws Mail.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 10 19:15:17 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 17:15:17 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3651] Duplicate notifications are displayed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3651

--- Comment #5 from Edward <edwardp at linuxmail.org> ---
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Task bar showing second open envelope.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 10 19:15:37 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 17:15:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3651] Duplicate notifications are displayed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3651

--- Comment #6 from Edward <edwardp at linuxmail.org> ---
Created attachment 1657
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Preferences

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 10 19:20:55 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 17:20:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3651] Duplicate notifications are displayed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3651-595-ghUD7HYK8S@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3651

Edward <edwardp at linuxmail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|RESOLVED                    |REOPENED
         Resolution|INVALID                     |---

--- Comment #7 from Edward <edwardp at linuxmail.org> ---
I am attaching three additional screenshots.

The first one shows one open envelope upon launch of Claws Mail.

The second screenshot also shows a second envelope appearing when the first new
message is detected (IMAP).

The third screenshot shows the Preferences for the notification plugin.

If you say these envelopes are not from Claws Mail, then there may still be an
issue with the notification. 

Note that there is also a "bubble" that occasionally appears at the upper right
corner of the screen displaying for a certain number of seconds, the number of
new messages. If I open a new message, this bubble reappears and the new
message count always increases by one, each time. 

Both this bubble and the second envelope, both display the Claws Mail logo when
the bubble appears or in case of the envelope, clicked.

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From andrzej.filip at gmail.com  Fri Jun 10 21:00:52 2016
From: andrzej.filip at gmail.com (Andrzej A. Filip)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:00:52 +0200
Subject: [Users] Order of filtering and spam handling. [perl plugin]
In-Reply-To: <20160606231005.2b5912af@Erik-PC.epolan.dk> (Erik P. Olsen's
 message of "Mon, 6 Jun 2016 23:10:05 +0200")
References: <20160606220753.1dca677b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160606162055.1d0da658@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20160606223940.6df4727f@utnubu> <20160606225323.7c48e9d2@utnubu>
 <20160606231005.2b5912af@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <anfi+9hc19ia25f-g6a5@wp.eu>

"Erik P. Olsen" <epodata at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2016-06-06 at 22:53:23 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 22:39:40 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> >On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 16:20:55 -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote:  
>> >>You can do it by unloading the plugin and than creating a filter to
>> >>check for spam and setting it as the last filter to be run.    
>> >
>> >If it's the last filter rule, then you gain nothing, if you want to
>> >sort spam, e.g.
>> >if flag spam is set and from contains .com then move to foo
>> >if flag spam is set and from contains .ru  then move to bar  
>> 
>> I suspect the issue the OP experiences is, that after a plugin sorted
>> out spam, the filtering doesn't affect the spam. Perhaps the OP really
>> wants just that after the sorting is done, spam is marked as spam,
>> without an additional sorting, but often it's wanted to sort mail
>> after it was detected as spam.
>
> My spam folder gets filled up at an increasing speed. Some are negativ
> hits which I don't want deleted but others come every day and sometimes
> more than once and these I want to filter out to delete. I haven't as
> yet found out how to do it but I'll see if some of the advice I have
> received can be used.
>
> Thanks to all for your advice.

Have you considered deploying spam filtering
(bogofilter/spamassassin/both) using perl filter plugin?
It should allow you to create "for spam filtering rules".

IMHO you should use special tag for "fast delete" (e.g. after 2-3 days).

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 10 23:38:55 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:38:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3651] Duplicate notifications are displayed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3651-595-W9kLjYP9Nl@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3651

--- Comment #8 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Attach screen shots showing the context menu of the tray icons.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jun 11 00:39:27 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 22:39:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3651] Duplicate notifications are displayed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3651-595-CWyfprJBV3@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3651

--- Comment #9 from Edward <edwardp at linuxmail.org> ---
Created attachment 1658
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Envelope 1

First envelope that appears immediately after Claws Mail is launched. The
context menu references Claws Mail.

Was unable to do the screenshots with the menu displayed, the menu disappears
once the mouse is clicked elsewhere on the screen, so these two images were
taken with a mobile phone.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jun 11 00:40:30 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 22:40:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3651] Duplicate notifications are displayed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3651-595-TWWa9Hbrp1@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3651

--- Comment #10 from Edward <edwardp at linuxmail.org> ---
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Envelope 2

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jun 11 00:42:32 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 22:42:32 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3651] Duplicate notifications are displayed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3651-595-ZUie7Mp3Fd@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3651

--- Comment #11 from Edward <edwardp at linuxmail.org> ---
Envelopes 1 and 2 were taken with a mobile phone, as the menu (from 1) and the
notification (from 2) disappear when the mouse is clicked elsewhere on the
screen.

Envelope 1's menu references Claws Mail in the text. Envelope 2 displays the
Claws Mail logo.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jun 11 10:16:58 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 08:16:58 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3651] Duplicate notifications are displayed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3651-595-srezSxrWuJ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3651

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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         Resolution|---                         |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #12 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
It is strange that in the screen shot where you show the context menu there is
only one icon in the systray. But at least we do we see the Claws Mail context
menu.

You said that you're using the defualt theme, but the systray icons are not
from the deault theme.

It is not a Fedora issue, I'm using Fedora without these oddities. However, I
use KDE and LXDE, so it might be an LXDE issue.

Anyway, it works fine here. I think it is something to do with how your system
is configured.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 12 01:07:16 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 23:07:16 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3651] Duplicate notifications are displayed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3651-595-NnYof56bgX@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3651

--- Comment #13 from Edward <edwardp at linuxmail.org> ---
Created attachment 1660
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Taskbar from MATE desktop.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 12 01:07:55 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 23:07:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3651] Duplicate notifications are displayed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3651-595-WAuZfkDpMs@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3651

--- Comment #14 from Edward <edwardp at linuxmail.org> ---
(In reply to comment #13)
> Created attachment 1660 [details]
> Taskbar from MATE desktop.

Only one envelope appears on the taskbar using the MATE desktop.

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From rezso at rezso.net  Sun Jun 12 15:07:16 2016
From: rezso at rezso.net (=?UTF-8?B?UMOhZGVyIFJlenPFkQ==?=)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 15:07:16 +0200
Subject: [Users] Printing email
Message-ID: <20160612150716.73c4b469@papi.home>

Hi all,


I want to print an email, with sender, recipient, date and subject.
But in the preview I see the body part of the email only.
How I can print the full email? 

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From lists-claws at listmail.innovate.net  Sun Jun 12 15:18:42 2016
From: lists-claws at listmail.innovate.net (Richard)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 13:18:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] Printing email
In-Reply-To: <20160612150716.73c4b469@papi.home>
References: <20160612150716.73c4b469@papi.home>
Message-ID: <B4E1EFD635EF6A81B858DC3D@ritz.innovate.net>


> Date: Sunday, June 12, 2016 15:07:16 +0200
> From: Páder Rezső <rezso at rezso.net>
>
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> I want to print an email, with sender, recipient, date and subject.
> But in the preview I see the body part of the email only.
> How I can print the full email? 

When you invoke the print option, do you have the full message in
view, or only a body part?

When I have the full message in view -- the top "part" icon, with the
'@' sign -- I get the full message, visible headers included, in
print preview as well as output.




From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sun Jun 12 15:25:19 2016
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:25:19 +0100
Subject: [Users] Printing email
In-Reply-To: <20160612150716.73c4b469@papi.home>
References: <20160612150716.73c4b469@papi.home>
Message-ID: <20160612142519.125175ca@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 15:07:16 +0200
Páder Rezső <rezso at rezso.net> wrote:

Hello Páder,

>How I can print the full email? 

Configuration menu:
Preferences -> Message View -> Text Options - "Display headers in
message view" then 'Edit' which headers you want displayed, is one way.

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From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Sun Jun 12 15:25:29 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 15:25:29 +0200
Subject: [Users] Printing email
In-Reply-To: <20160612150716.73c4b469@papi.home>
References: <20160612150716.73c4b469@papi.home>
Message-ID: <20160612152529.08019be1@utnubu>

If I select the "@" icon at the right side, the mail is shown with
those headers and the print preview shows them. If I select the "txt"
icon, then the mail is displayed without the headers and the print
preview also doesn't show them.

Claws version 3.13.2-1-geb08800



From lists-claws at listmail.innovate.net  Sun Jun 12 16:02:45 2016
From: lists-claws at listmail.innovate.net (Richard)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:02:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] Printing email
Message-ID: <5E0ED852063442EAC462F5BD@ritz.innovate.net>



> Date: Sunday, June 12, 2016 15:25:29 +0200
> From: Ralf Mardorf <silver.bullet at zoho.com>
>
> If I select the "@" icon at the right side, the mail is shown with
> those headers and the print preview shows them. If I select the
> "txt" icon, then the mail is displayed without the headers and the
> print preview also doesn't show them.
> 
> Claws version 3.13.2-1-geb08800

I believe that the "@" icon view includes the first message part --
which, with multi-part messages, is generally the text part. Is that
not your case, hence explicitly selecting the text part?

I agree that even with "Display headers in message view" set you
don't seem to get the visible headers if you select other than the
"@-part view".




From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Sun Jun 12 16:23:30 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 16:23:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] Printing email
In-Reply-To: <5E0ED852063442EAC462F5BD@ritz.innovate.net>
References: <5E0ED852063442EAC462F5BD@ritz.innovate.net>
Message-ID: <20160612162330.18e92722@utnubu>

On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:02:45 +0000, Richard wrote:
>Is that not your case, hence explicitly selecting the text part?

I'm not the OP, I only wanted to point out, that if the OP would/could
chose the "@"-icon, resp. "message/rfc822", the print preview shows the
headers and the mail (body, signature and what ever else).

My version of Claws seems to be the same as the OP's version. FWIW I
only use the "Address Keeper" and "Bogofilter" plugins, maybe the HTML
related plugin affects the printer preview.

Regards,
Ralf



From dan_arico at aricosystems.com  Sun Jun 12 18:49:44 2016
From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 12:49:44 -0400
Subject: [Users] Printing email
In-Reply-To: <20160612150716.73c4b469@papi.home>
References: <20160612150716.73c4b469@papi.home>
Message-ID: <20160612124944.52afb1c7.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>

On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 15:07:16 +0200
Páder Rezső <rezso at rezso.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> 
> I want to print an email, with sender, recipient, date and subject.
> But in the preview I see the body part of the email only.
> How I can print the full email? 
> 

Under Linux, highlight everything on the screen that you want. Bring up
your favorite editor and paste into it. Print from the editor.

Dan Arico

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun 14 01:34:06 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 23:34:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3651] Duplicate notifications are displayed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3651-595-aupWnCEolp@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3651

--- Comment #15 from Edward <edwardp at linuxmail.org> ---
The second envelope that appeared, is a general notification icon that is from
LXDE.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun 14 06:36:18 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 04:36:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3644] Fancy renders blank page for most html emails
 when using shared-mime-info 1.6
In-Reply-To: <bug-3644-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3644-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3644-595-3z8l756d3f@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3644

--- Comment #5 from Martin Schwenke <martin at meltin.net> ---
I understand that this is closed, but people come here looking for
answers to this and I just found one, so I figure it is worth
documenting what I found to try and help others...  :-)

When using the Fancy plugin files like this are created:

  ~/.claws-mail/mimetmp/000000c0.mimetmp.html

Note the ".html" extension.

By bisecting my configuration, I found I had a file called:

  ~/.local/share/mime/packages/user-extension-html.xml

containing:

  <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
  <mime-info xmlns="http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/shared-mime-info">
   <mime-type type="application/x-extension-html">
    <comment>html document</comment>
    <glob pattern="*.html"/>
   </mime-type>
  </mime-info>

This looks like it maps files with extension .html to MIME type
application/x-extension-html.

Removing this file and running:

  update-mime-database ~/.local/share/mime

stopped the problem with the Fancy plugin occurring.

Note that running the above command makes other changes to
~/.local/share/mime/ so you might want to backup this directory when
testing.

If I re-add the file and run the above command again the problem
returns.

Another thing that works around the problem is removing the changes to
/usr/share/mime/packages/freedesktop.org.xml mentioned at
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1623743#p1623743, which
seems to explain why downgrading shared-mime-info helps.

I'm not sure what created
~/.local/share/mime/packages/user-extension-html.xml.  However,
neither it nor most of the other contents of ~/.local/share/mime/ had
changed for over a year (probably since I installed this new laptop
and started using it).  However, when I upgraded shared-mime-info to
1.6 back in early May, this triggered a bug somewhere in combination
with the existence of this file.  I wish I understood more...

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Tue Jun 14 08:13:39 2016
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 08:13:39 +0200
Subject: [Users] Ghost emails / very strange POP behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160603083628.7028110c@kujata>
References: <20160530233318.495939e2.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531094318.34dc4f46@utnubu>
 <20160531141828.2f5ea9e3.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531142209.4660cd08.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531092917.34cea11a@pfortin.com>
 <20160531202452.12011e3e.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160531145222.2b39bde0@pfortin.com>
 <1464721569.911.7.camel@zoho.com>
 <20160603071042.229ebf50.codejodler@gmx.ch>
 <20160603083628.7028110c@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160614081339.7b20901f.codejodler@gmx.ch>

The MSP did not respond.


From pf at pfortin.com  Wed Jun 15 04:07:29 2016
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 22:07:29 -0400
Subject: [Users] IMAP password length?
Message-ID: <20160614220729.6d434112@pfortin.com>

Hi,

Getting my daughter onto Linux with CM.  I've never used IMAP; but she
wants it.

However, it appears there may be a password length limit.  Her's is 15
characters and fails when connecting to GMail.

Is this likely her problem, or should we keep looking?

Thanks,
Pierre


From ricardo at mones.org  Wed Jun 15 08:53:30 2016
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:53:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] IMAP password length?
In-Reply-To: <20160614220729.6d434112@pfortin.com>
References: <20160614220729.6d434112@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20160615065330.GA16681@busgosu.mones.org>

Hi Pierre,

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 10:07:29PM -0400, Pierre Fortin wrote:
[…]
> However, it appears there may be a password length limit.  Her's is 15
> characters and fails when connecting to GMail.
> 
> Is this likely her problem, or should we keep looking?

Keep looking, mine has more than 15 chars and have no problems.

regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
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From albert.aribaud at free.fr  Wed Jun 15 10:18:18 2016
From: albert.aribaud at free.fr (Albert ARIBAUD)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 10:18:18 +0200
Subject: [Users] IMAP password length?
In-Reply-To: <20160614220729.6d434112@pfortin.com>
References: <20160614220729.6d434112@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20160615101818.4aa24da8@lilith>

Hi,

Le Tue, 14 Jun 2016 22:07:29 -0400
Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> a écrit:

> Hi,
> 
> Getting my daughter onto Linux with CM.  I've never used IMAP; but she
> wants it.
> 
> However, it appears there may be a password length limit.  Her's is 15
> characters and fails when connecting to GMail.

Does it fail with a specific message in the network log?

> Is this likely her problem, or should we keep looking?

An encoding issue maybe, if the pwd contains non-ASCII characters?

> Thanks,
> Pierre

Amicalement,
-- 
Albert.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 15 10:31:04 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 09:31:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] IMAP password length?
In-Reply-To: <20160615101818.4aa24da8@lilith>
References: <20160614220729.6d434112@pfortin.com>
 <20160615101818.4aa24da8@lilith>
Message-ID: <20160615093104.2ffe5f2f@kujata>

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 10:18:18 +0200
Albert ARIBAUD <albert.aribaud at free.fr> wrote: 

> An encoding issue maybe, if the pwd contains non-ASCII characters?

Is that a pure guess? Do you have any reason to think an encoding
issue is likely?

with regards

Paul


From mir at miras.org  Wed Jun 15 10:41:11 2016
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 10:41:11 +0200
Subject: [Users] IMAP password length?
In-Reply-To: <20160615093104.2ffe5f2f@kujata>
References: <20160614220729.6d434112@pfortin.com>
 <20160615101818.4aa24da8@lilith> <20160615093104.2ffe5f2f@kujata>
Message-ID: <C3F914C1-653D-423C-A3D0-C37D7AA22F15@miras.org>

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Hash: SHA512

It could be caused by the password encryption algorithm?

On June 15, 2016 10:31:04 AM GMT+02:00, Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
>On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 10:18:18 +0200
>Albert ARIBAUD <albert.aribaud at free.fr> wrote:
>
>> An encoding issue maybe, if the pwd contains non-ASCII characters?
>
>Is that a pure guess? Do you have any reason to think an encoding
>issue is likely?
>
>with regards
>
>Paul
>_______________________________________________
>Users mailing list
>Users at lists.claws-mail.org
>http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

- --
Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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From albert.aribaud at free.fr  Wed Jun 15 12:04:13 2016
From: albert.aribaud at free.fr (Albert ARIBAUD)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:04:13 +0200
Subject: [Users] IMAP password length?
In-Reply-To: <20160615093104.2ffe5f2f@kujata>
References: <20160614220729.6d434112@pfortin.com>
 <20160615101818.4aa24da8@lilith> <20160615093104.2ffe5f2f@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160615120413.041f44e1@lilith>

Hi Paul,

Le Wed, 15 Jun 2016 09:31:04 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> a écrit:

> On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 10:18:18 +0200
> Albert ARIBAUD <albert.aribaud at free.fr> wrote: 
> 
> > An encoding issue maybe, if the pwd contains non-ASCII characters?  
> 
> Is that a pure guess? Do you have any reason to think an encoding
> issue is likely?

No, it's not a pure guess, and no, I don't have any reason to think an
encoding issue is likely.

I do, however, have reasons for thinking it is /possible/.

The reasons I have are, precisely, more than one past experience with
non-ASCII password (mis-)encoding in various password use scenarios,
not necessarily related to mail.

Note that I'm not implying that Claws Mail might mis-encode non-ASCII
passwords, mind you; mis-encoding could happen just as well on the web
page or in the shell where the password is /set/. I am just saying that
there are 'opportunities' for mis-encoding, and that knowing whether
the password is ASCII or not can help either discard or consider the
possibility.

> with regards
> 
> Paul

Amicalement,
-- 
Albert.


From rezso at rezso.net  Wed Jun 15 12:28:29 2016
From: rezso at rezso.net (=?UTF-8?B?UMOhZGVyIFJlenPFkQ==?=)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:28:29 +0200
Subject: [Users] Printing email
In-Reply-To: <B4E1EFD635EF6A81B858DC3D@ritz.innovate.net>
References: <20160612150716.73c4b469@papi.home>
 <B4E1EFD635EF6A81B858DC3D@ritz.innovate.net>
Message-ID: <20160615122829.33e441ac@papi.home>

> When you invoke the print option, do you have the full message in
> view, or only a body part?

In the view, I see the body part only, because this is an html mail, and
CM selects automatically the html.

> When I have the full message in view -- the top "part" icon, with the
> '@' sign -- I get the full message, visible headers included, in
> print preview as well as output.

It works, thank you.

-- 
Regards,

Rezső
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From jerry at seibercom.net  Wed Jun 15 12:50:24 2016
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 06:50:24 -0400
Subject: [Users] Printing email
In-Reply-To: <20160615122829.33e441ac@papi.home>
References: <20160612150716.73c4b469@papi.home>
 <B4E1EFD635EF6A81B858DC3D@ritz.innovate.net>
 <20160615122829.33e441ac@papi.home>
Message-ID: <20160615065024.000025d1@seibercom.net>

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:28:29 +0200, Páder Rezső stated:

>> When you invoke the print option, do you have the full message in
>> view, or only a body part?  
>
>In the view, I see the body part only, because this is an html mail,
>and CM selects automatically the html.
>
>> When I have the full message in view -- the top "part" icon, with the
>> '@' sign -- I get the full message, visible headers included, in
>> print preview as well as output.  
>
>It works, thank you.

Okay, maybe I am doing something wrong; however, when I click that
icon, the headers do appear; however, the message view changes to text.
There are many times that I want the headers printed along with the
message text, with the text in HTML format. This works in MS Outlook so
obviously it is possible.

This is using Claws Mail version 3.13.2-dirty

System Information
GTK+ 2.24.28 / GLib 2.45.2
Locale: en_US (charset: ISO-8859-1)
Operating System: Win32

-- 
Jerry


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 15 12:57:50 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:57:50 +0100
Subject: [Users] Printing email
In-Reply-To: <20160615065024.000025d1@seibercom.net>
References: <20160612150716.73c4b469@papi.home>
 <B4E1EFD635EF6A81B858DC3D@ritz.innovate.net>
 <20160615122829.33e441ac@papi.home>
 <20160615065024.000025d1@seibercom.net>
Message-ID: <20160615115750.4b118a5a@kujata>

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 06:50:24 -0400
Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote: 

> This works in MS Outlook so
> obviously it is possible.

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2802

with regards

Paul


From epodata at gmail.com  Wed Jun 15 14:13:05 2016
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:13:05 +0200
Subject: [Users] Notifications.
Message-ID: <20160615141305.74c35b98@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>

Have the notification preferences changed in version 3.13.2? I can't
find the check boxes for "Use system sound" and "Display folder
name" (popup). I specifically miss the system sound.

-- 
Erik


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 15 14:19:24 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 13:19:24 +0100
Subject: [Users] Notifications.
In-Reply-To: <20160615141305.74c35b98@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20160615141305.74c35b98@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20160615131924.331cca1c@kujata>

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:13:05 +0200
"Erik P. Olsen" <epodata at gmail.com> wrote: 

> Have the notification preferences changed in version 3.13.2? I can't
> find the check boxes for "Use system sound" and "Display folder
> name" (popup). I specifically miss the system sound.

They've not moved.

"Use sound theme" is there:
/Configuration/Preferences/Plugins/Notification

"Display folder name" is there:
/Configuration/Preferences/Plugins/Notification/Popup

with regards

Paul


From andrej at kacian.sk  Wed Jun 15 14:23:07 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:23:07 +0200
Subject: [Users] Notifications.
In-Reply-To: <20160615141305.74c35b98@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20160615141305.74c35b98@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20160615142307.4b2b9ecf@penny>

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:13:05 +0200
"Erik P. Olsen" <epodata at gmail.com> wrote:

> Have the notification preferences changed in version 3.13.2? I can't
> find the check boxes for "Use system sound" and "Display folder
> name" (popup). I specifically miss the system sound.
> 

I don't know about "Use system sound", but "Display folder name"
option is only available if you compile Claws Mail with libnotify
support.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From jerry at seibercom.net  Wed Jun 15 14:27:15 2016
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:27:15 -0400
Subject: [Users] Printing email
In-Reply-To: <20160615115750.4b118a5a@kujata>
References: <20160612150716.73c4b469@papi.home>
 <B4E1EFD635EF6A81B858DC3D@ritz.innovate.net>
 <20160615122829.33e441ac@papi.home>
 <20160615065024.000025d1@seibercom.net>
 <20160615115750.4b118a5a@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160615082715.000028c0@seibercom.net>

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:57:50 +0100, Paul stated:

>On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 06:50:24 -0400
>Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote: 
>
>> This works in MS Outlook so
>> obviously it is possible.  
>
>http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2802
>
>with regards
>
>Paul

Thanks Paul. I tried the solutions presented there; however, they do
not work on the Windows version of Claws-Mail. In fact, I am not seeing
the "PRINT PREVIEW" option either. The inability to print out simple
email headers on HTML based email is a serious deal breaker. I have a
job with a local municipality that requires me to print out hard
copies of virtually all of the mail I receive. I need those headers
included on HTML email.

-- 
Jerry


From epodata at gmail.com  Wed Jun 15 14:36:48 2016
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:36:48 +0200
Subject: [Users] Notifications.
In-Reply-To: <20160615142307.4b2b9ecf@penny>
References: <20160615141305.74c35b98@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160615142307.4b2b9ecf@penny>
Message-ID: <20160615143648.4fcabfbf@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>

On 2016-06-15 at 14:23:07 Andrej Kacian wrote:

> I don't know about "Use system sound", but "Display folder name"
> option is only available if you compile Claws Mail with libnotify
> support.

Yes, that could very well be the problem. I'll try to add support for
libnotify. (I wonder how much more support is needed to build Claws
Mail with full capabilities :-)

-- 
Erik



From epodata at gmail.com  Wed Jun 15 14:55:52 2016
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:55:52 +0200
Subject: [Users] Notifications.
In-Reply-To: <20160615143648.4fcabfbf@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20160615141305.74c35b98@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160615142307.4b2b9ecf@penny>
 <20160615143648.4fcabfbf@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20160615145552.28a41fd0@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>

On 2016-06-15 at 14:36:48 Erik P. Olsen wrote:

> On 2016-06-15 at 14:23:07 Andrej Kacian wrote:
> 
> > I don't know about "Use system sound", but "Display folder name"
> > option is only available if you compile Claws Mail with libnotify
> > support.  
> 
> Yes, that could very well be the problem. I'll try to add support for
> libnotify. (I wonder how much more support is needed to build Claws
> Mail with full capabilities :-)

Thanks for the hint, "Display folder name" is back. I now only miss
"Use system sound" but it's probably another missing piece of support.
I'll check autogen output for what else is missing.

-- 
Erik


 


From pf at pfortin.com  Wed Jun 15 14:56:20 2016
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:56:20 -0400
Subject: [Users] IMAP password length?
In-Reply-To: <20160615065330.GA16681@busgosu.mones.org>
References: <20160614220729.6d434112@pfortin.com>
 <20160615065330.GA16681@busgosu.mones.org>
Message-ID: <20160615085620.77c1926b@pfortin.com>

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:53:30 +0200 Ricardo Mones wrote:

>Hi Pierre,
>
>On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 10:07:29PM -0400, Pierre Fortin wrote:
>[…]
>> However, it appears there may be a password length limit.  Her's is 15
>> characters and fails when connecting to GMail.
>> 
>> Is this likely her problem, or should we keep looking?  
>
>Keep looking, mine has more than 15 chars and have no problems.
>
>regards,

Thanks Ricardo.  To answer the non-ASCII issue, the password contains
upper/lower alpha + 0-9 + shift[0-6]

After posting the question, she mentioned that she also uses Google's
2-step verification because she does virtual book-keeping/accounting for
various clients in remote cities.  Convinced her to turn that off to at
least get initially connected; but every time she tried, Google returned a
"something went wrong" (paraphrased) message. 
Her password does work if she tries POP; so this may be the 2-step
verification...  is this supported?

Thanks,
Pierre


From mir at miras.org  Wed Jun 15 15:15:49 2016
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:15:49 +0200
Subject: [Users] IMAP password length?
In-Reply-To: <20160615085620.77c1926b@pfortin.com>
References: <20160614220729.6d434112@pfortin.com>
 <20160615065330.GA16681@busgosu.mones.org>
 <20160615085620.77c1926b@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <45A33F58-63D3-40C5-A63D-F3D44CD88C89@miras.org>

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What version of CM does she use? Google uses a new oauth2 version which requeres newest CM.

On June 15, 2016 2:56:20 PM GMT+02:00, Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:53:30 +0200 Ricardo Mones wrote:
>
>>Hi Pierre,
>>
>>On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 10:07:29PM -0400, Pierre Fortin wrote:
>>[…]
>>> However, it appears there may be a password length limit.  Her's is
>15
>>> characters and fails when connecting to GMail.
>>>
>>> Is this likely her problem, or should we keep looking?
>>
>>Keep looking, mine has more than 15 chars and have no problems.
>>
>>regards,
>
>Thanks Ricardo.  To answer the non-ASCII issue, the password contains
>upper/lower alpha + 0-9 + shift[0-6]
>
>After posting the question, she mentioned that she also uses Google's
>2-step verification because she does virtual book-keeping/accounting
>for
>various clients in remote cities.  Convinced her to turn that off to at
>least get initially connected; but every time she tried, Google
>returned a
>"something went wrong" (paraphrased) message.
>Her password does work if she tries POP; so this may be the 2-step
>verification...  is this supported?
>
>Thanks,
>Pierre
>_______________________________________________
>Users mailing list
>Users at lists.claws-mail.org
>http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

- --
Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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From epodata at gmail.com  Wed Jun 15 15:15:59 2016
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:15:59 +0200
Subject: [Users] Notifications.
In-Reply-To: <20160615145552.28a41fd0@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20160615141305.74c35b98@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160615142307.4b2b9ecf@penny>
 <20160615143648.4fcabfbf@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160615145552.28a41fd0@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20160615151559.5ca15efe@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>

On 2016-06-15 at 14:55:52 Erik P. Olsen wrote:

> On 2016-06-15 at 14:36:48 Erik P. Olsen wrote:
> 
> > On 2016-06-15 at 14:23:07 Andrej Kacian wrote:
> >   
> > > I don't know about "Use system sound", but "Display folder name"
> > > option is only available if you compile Claws Mail with libnotify
> > > support.    
> > 
> > Yes, that could very well be the problem. I'll try to add support
> > for libnotify. (I wonder how much more support is needed to build
> > Claws Mail with full capabilities :-)  
> 
> Thanks for the hint, "Display folder name" is back. I now only miss
> "Use system sound" but it's probably another missing piece of support.
> I'll check autogen output for what else is missing.

Adding support for libcanberra.gtk brings "Use sound theme" back.

Thanks for your help.

-- 
Erik



From andrej at kacian.sk  Wed Jun 15 15:31:50 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:31:50 +0200
Subject: [Users] IMAP password length?
In-Reply-To: <45A33F58-63D3-40C5-A63D-F3D44CD88C89@miras.org>
References: <20160614220729.6d434112@pfortin.com>
 <20160615065330.GA16681@busgosu.mones.org>
 <20160615085620.77c1926b@pfortin.com>
 <45A33F58-63D3-40C5-A63D-F3D44CD88C89@miras.org>
Message-ID: <20160615153150.5249ec8d@penny>

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:15:49 +0200
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> What version of CM does she use? Google uses a new oauth2 version which requeres newest CM.

That is just for the gdata plugin, and not at all for IMAP login.

-- 
Andrej
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From mir at miras.org  Wed Jun 15 15:36:57 2016
From: mir at miras.org (mir at miras.org)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:36:57 +0200
Subject: [Users] IMAP password length?
In-Reply-To: <20160615153150.5249ec8d@penny>
References: <20160614220729.6d434112@pfortin.com>
 <20160615065330.GA16681@busgosu.mones.org>
 <20160615085620.77c1926b@pfortin.com>
 <45A33F58-63D3-40C5-A63D-F3D44CD88C89@miras.org>
 <20160615153150.5249ec8d@penny>
Message-ID: <4c05d952db044b9babea47fb74d7fad7@miras.org>

On 2016-06-15 15:31, Andrej Kacian wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:15:49 +0200
> Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:
> 
>> What version of CM does she use? Google uses a new oauth2 version 
>> which requeres newest CM.
> 
> That is just for the gdata plugin, and not at all for IMAP login.
> 
Sorry, thought is was the same.

But maybe this then:

"If you have 2-Step Verification on your Google Account, you might need 
an App Password to sign in"
https://support.google.com/mail/troubleshooter/1668960?hl=en

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From ricardo at mones.org  Wed Jun 15 16:34:44 2016
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:34:44 +0200
Subject: [Users] IMAP password length?
In-Reply-To: <4c05d952db044b9babea47fb74d7fad7@miras.org>
References: <20160614220729.6d434112@pfortin.com>
 <20160615065330.GA16681@busgosu.mones.org>
 <20160615085620.77c1926b@pfortin.com>
 <45A33F58-63D3-40C5-A63D-F3D44CD88C89@miras.org>
 <20160615153150.5249ec8d@penny>
 <4c05d952db044b9babea47fb74d7fad7@miras.org>
Message-ID: <20160615143444.GB16681@busgosu.mones.org>

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 03:36:57PM +0200, mir at miras.org wrote:
[…]
> But maybe this then:
> 
> "If you have 2-Step Verification on your Google Account, you might need an
> App Password to sign in"
> https://support.google.com/mail/troubleshooter/1668960?hl=en

That "App Password" would require support on Claws Mail side, which is
not currently implemented.

The way to go is to allow to "unsafe" apps to access your IMAP account.

regards,
-- 
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  ~
  00:45 < hammar> cool.. have you used rssyl?                          
  00:46 <@Ticho> um, yes                            Seen on #sylpheed

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From pf at pfortin.com  Wed Jun 15 16:49:26 2016
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 10:49:26 -0400
Subject: [Users] IMAP password length?
In-Reply-To: <4c05d952db044b9babea47fb74d7fad7@miras.org>
References: <20160614220729.6d434112@pfortin.com>
 <20160615065330.GA16681@busgosu.mones.org>
 <20160615085620.77c1926b@pfortin.com>
 <45A33F58-63D3-40C5-A63D-F3D44CD88C89@miras.org>
 <20160615153150.5249ec8d@penny>
 <4c05d952db044b9babea47fb74d7fad7@miras.org>
Message-ID: <20160615104926.15857fdd@pfortin.com>

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:36:57 +0200 mir at miras.org wrote:

>On 2016-06-15 15:31, Andrej Kacian wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:15:49 +0200
>> Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:
>>   
>>> What version of CM does she use? Google uses a new oauth2 version 
>>> which requeres newest CM.  

She can't be any newer...  I installed my build script on her system and
it compiled/installed 3.13.2git153   Hmm...  I never use[d] IMAP; are
there any IMAP-only dependencies that may need to be installed?

>> That is just for the gdata plugin, and not at all for IMAP login.
>>   
>Sorry, thought is was the same.
>
>But maybe this then:
>
>"If you have 2-Step Verification on your Google Account, you might need 
>an App Password to sign in"
>https://support.google.com/mail/troubleshooter/1668960?hl=en

We've been through that...  she has K9 mail setup this way on her Android
phone and that works. So she was puzzled as to why it didn't work on CM;
and why I built the latest for her...  

BTW, there was a strange situation where 3.13.2git153 initially tried
loading Mageia's default 3.11.1 plugins. Those were in italics.  Before I
could think of anything, she hit Load on one of the [non-italics] 3.13.2
plugins and that worked, so we continued with the rest and all's fine now
with the plugins... so maybe the next step is to use a fresh
~/.claws-mail...? 

Cheers,
Pierre


From pf at pfortin.com  Wed Jun 15 16:52:20 2016
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 10:52:20 -0400
Subject: [Users] IMAP password length?
In-Reply-To: <20160615143444.GB16681@busgosu.mones.org>
References: <20160614220729.6d434112@pfortin.com>
 <20160615065330.GA16681@busgosu.mones.org>
 <20160615085620.77c1926b@pfortin.com>
 <45A33F58-63D3-40C5-A63D-F3D44CD88C89@miras.org>
 <20160615153150.5249ec8d@penny>
 <4c05d952db044b9babea47fb74d7fad7@miras.org>
 <20160615143444.GB16681@busgosu.mones.org>
Message-ID: <20160615105220.209e41b8@pfortin.com>

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:34:44 +0200 Ricardo Mones wrote:

>On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 03:36:57PM +0200, mir at miras.org wrote:
>[…]
>> But maybe this then:
>> 
>> "If you have 2-Step Verification on your Google Account, you might
>> need an App Password to sign in"
>> https://support.google.com/mail/troubleshooter/1668960?hl=en  
>
>That "App Password" would require support on Claws Mail side, which is
>not currently implemented.

That's what I wondered...  good to know.

>The way to go is to allow to "unsafe" apps to access your IMAP account.

Agreed...  we were working through that when we also tried to disable the
2-step which fails...

Thanks!!  Will report what we eventually find.  Much appreciated!

Pierre



From avrunin at math.umass.edu  Wed Jun 15 17:46:14 2016
From: avrunin at math.umass.edu (George Avrunin)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:46:14 -0400
Subject: [Users] IMAP password length?
In-Reply-To: <20160615143444.GB16681@busgosu.mones.org>
References: <20160614220729.6d434112@pfortin.com>
 <20160615065330.GA16681@busgosu.mones.org>
 <20160615085620.77c1926b@pfortin.com>
 <45A33F58-63D3-40C5-A63D-F3D44CD88C89@miras.org>
 <20160615153150.5249ec8d@penny>
 <4c05d952db044b9babea47fb74d7fad7@miras.org>
 <20160615143444.GB16681@busgosu.mones.org>
Message-ID: <20160615114614.4c5c5dde.avrunin@math.umass.edu>

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:34:44 +0200, Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 03:36:57PM +0200, mir at miras.org wrote:
> […]
> > But maybe this then:
> > 
> > "If you have 2-Step Verification on your Google Account, you might need an
> > App Password to sign in"
> > https://support.google.com/mail/troubleshooter/1668960?hl=en  
> 
> That "App Password" would require support on Claws Mail side, which is
> not currently implemented.
> 
> The way to go is to allow to "unsafe" apps to access your IMAP account.
> 
> regards,

I don't think that's correct.  You can have Google give you an "app
password", which you then use for the password you enter in setting up the
imap account.  Claws treats it as a standard imap password, and Google then
allows Claws to read and send mail through gmail.  You don't have to allow
"unsafe" apps in general, and can keep 2-factor authentication.  

  George


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 15 18:27:58 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:27:58 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3652] New: utils.c:4740:47: warning: ordered
 comparison of pointer with integer zero [-Wextra]
Message-ID: <bug-3652-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3652

            Bug ID: 3652
           Summary: utils.c:4740:47: warning: ordered comparison of
                    pointer with integer zero [-Wextra]
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: other
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: dcb314 at hotmail.com

Source code is

    while (i < 60 && score < 3
           && fgets(buffer, sizeof (buffer), fp) > 0) {

Suggest new code

    while (i < 60 && score < 3
           && fgets(buffer, sizeof (buffer), fp) != 0) {

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From pf at pfortin.com  Wed Jun 15 18:30:11 2016
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:30:11 -0400
Subject: [Users] IMAP password length?
In-Reply-To: <20160615114614.4c5c5dde.avrunin@math.umass.edu>
References: <20160614220729.6d434112@pfortin.com>
 <20160615065330.GA16681@busgosu.mones.org>
 <20160615085620.77c1926b@pfortin.com>
 <45A33F58-63D3-40C5-A63D-F3D44CD88C89@miras.org>
 <20160615153150.5249ec8d@penny>
 <4c05d952db044b9babea47fb74d7fad7@miras.org>
 <20160615143444.GB16681@busgosu.mones.org>
 <20160615114614.4c5c5dde.avrunin@math.umass.edu>
Message-ID: <20160615123011.71490d5c@pfortin.com>

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:46:14 -0400 George Avrunin wrote:

>On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:34:44 +0200, Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
>wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 03:36:57PM +0200, mir at miras.org wrote:
>> […]  
>> > But maybe this then:
>> > 
>> > "If you have 2-Step Verification on your Google Account, you might
>> > need an App Password to sign in"
>> > https://support.google.com/mail/troubleshooter/1668960?hl=en    
>> 
>> That "App Password" would require support on Claws Mail side, which is
>> not currently implemented.
>> 
>> The way to go is to allow to "unsafe" apps to access your IMAP account.
>> 
>> regards,  
>
>I don't think that's correct.  You can have Google give you an "app
>password", which you then use for the password you enter in setting up
>the imap account.  Claws treats it as a standard imap password, and
>Google then allows Claws to read and send mail through gmail.  You don't
>have to allow "unsafe" apps in general, and can keep 2-factor
>authentication.  

Are you sure?  During our troubleshooting, she got a 16-character code
and pasted it into the password field; but that didn't work either...

She has work priorities at the moment, so we'll try all the suggestions
later.

>  George

Thanks,
Pierre



From jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com  Wed Jun 15 18:42:24 2016
From: jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com (Jeremy Schneider)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:42:24 -0400
Subject: [Users] Printing email
In-Reply-To: <20160615082715.000028c0@seibercom.net>
References: <20160612150716.73c4b469@papi.home>
 <B4E1EFD635EF6A81B858DC3D@ritz.innovate.net>
 <20160615122829.33e441ac@papi.home>
 <20160615065024.000025d1@seibercom.net>
 <20160615115750.4b118a5a@kujata>
 <20160615082715.000028c0@seibercom.net>
Message-ID: <20160615124224.0ee87139@jeremy-nb.localdomain>

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:27:15 -0400 Jerry wrote:
> The inability to print out
> simple email headers on HTML based email is a serious deal breaker. 

Add my vote to this feature request. I would also find it very useful
to print html/fancy mails with headers.

In my case, I often need to create PDF records of receipts for expense
reports. Often email receipts can only be displayed in HTML format, and
I really do need the headers as part of my expense records.

Right now I routinely open these emails with a different email client
just to print the expense record to PDF, then I go back to claws. It
will be really cool when claws can print HTML messages with headers!

-Jeremy

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From avrunin at math.umass.edu  Wed Jun 15 19:19:01 2016
From: avrunin at math.umass.edu (George Avrunin)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 13:19:01 -0400
Subject: [Users] IMAP password length?
In-Reply-To: <20160615123011.71490d5c@pfortin.com>
References: <20160614220729.6d434112@pfortin.com>
 <20160615065330.GA16681@busgosu.mones.org>
 <20160615085620.77c1926b@pfortin.com>
 <45A33F58-63D3-40C5-A63D-F3D44CD88C89@miras.org>
 <20160615153150.5249ec8d@penny>
 <4c05d952db044b9babea47fb74d7fad7@miras.org>
 <20160615143444.GB16681@busgosu.mones.org>
 <20160615114614.4c5c5dde.avrunin@math.umass.edu>
 <20160615123011.71490d5c@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20160615131901.7ab9f71a.avrunin@math.umass.edu>

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:30:11 -0400, Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:

> Are you sure?  During our troubleshooting, she got a 16-character code
> and pasted it into the password field; but that didn't work either...
> 
> She has work priorities at the moment, so we'll try all the suggestions
> later.

I'm not 100% sure, but I did this for a machine (that I don't have access to
at the moment) a year or so ago.  I'm pretty sure that was what we had to do.
In GMail help (https://support.google.com/mail/answer/185833?hl=en,   Email
clients, offline, & accessibility > Email clients using IMAP), Google does
say "An App password is a 16-digit passcode that gives an app or device
permission to access your Google Account. If you use 2-Step-Verification and
are seeing a “password incorrect” error when trying to access your Google
Account, an App password may solve the problem. Most of the time, you’ll only
have to enter an App password once per app or device, so don’t worry about
memorizing it."

  George


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From andrej at kacian.sk  Wed Jun 15 19:32:58 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:32:58 +0200
Subject: [Users] IMAP password length?
In-Reply-To: <20160615104926.15857fdd@pfortin.com>
References: <20160614220729.6d434112@pfortin.com>
 <20160615065330.GA16681@busgosu.mones.org>
 <20160615085620.77c1926b@pfortin.com>
 <45A33F58-63D3-40C5-A63D-F3D44CD88C89@miras.org>
 <20160615153150.5249ec8d@penny>
 <4c05d952db044b9babea47fb74d7fad7@miras.org>
 <20160615104926.15857fdd@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20160615193258.6881886e@penny>

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 10:49:26 -0400
Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:

> BTW, there was a strange situation where 3.13.2git153 initially tried
> loading Mageia's default 3.11.1 plugins. Those were in italics.

Plugins in italics are those that your configuration says you want
loaded, but which Claws Mail could not load this session. Either
because the plugin is missing for current version, or some other reason.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 15 20:20:49 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:20:49 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3653] New: Upgrading from Mageia5 default (3.11.1),
 3.13.2git tries to load 3.11.1 plugins
Message-ID: <bug-3653-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3653

            Bug ID: 3653
           Summary: Upgrading from Mageia5 default (3.11.1), 3.13.2git
                    tries to load 3.11.1 plugins
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: pf at pfortin.com

Created attachment 1661
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1661&action=edit
CM plugin error dialog

Following up on my daughter's problems getting GMail IMAP working, I upgraded
her from Mageia5's CM 3.11.1 to 3.13.2git153.  When starting CM, got an error
dialog about plugins.

I can reproduce this situation on my system:
- installed CM 3.11.1 via Mageia5 mcc RPMs.
- started it on a virgin userid
  - used all defaults + Save
- installed a bunch of plugins
- quit CM 3.11.1
- started CM 3.13.2git145 (my current version)
- got error dialog

So it appears CM is trying to load plugins from ‎/usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/
instead of /usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/ where build installed them...

Also, shouldn't the build install the plugins in 
/usr/local/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/ ?

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From pf at pfortin.com  Wed Jun 15 20:21:22 2016
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:21:22 -0400
Subject: [Users] IMAP password length?
In-Reply-To: <20160615193258.6881886e@penny>
References: <20160614220729.6d434112@pfortin.com>
 <20160615065330.GA16681@busgosu.mones.org>
 <20160615085620.77c1926b@pfortin.com>
 <45A33F58-63D3-40C5-A63D-F3D44CD88C89@miras.org>
 <20160615153150.5249ec8d@penny>
 <4c05d952db044b9babea47fb74d7fad7@miras.org>
 <20160615104926.15857fdd@pfortin.com>
 <20160615193258.6881886e@penny>
Message-ID: <20160615142122.02c299b4@pfortin.com>

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:32:58 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote:

>On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 10:49:26 -0400
>Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:
>
>> BTW, there was a strange situation where 3.13.2git153 initially tried
>> loading Mageia's default 3.11.1 plugins. Those were in italics.  
>
>Plugins in italics are those that your configuration says you want
>loaded, but which Claws Mail could not load this session. Either
>because the plugin is missing for current version, or some other reason.

Hi Andrej,  Opening a new bug:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3653

Cheers,
Pierre


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 15 20:22:30 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:22:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3653] Upgrading from Mageia5 default (3.11.1),
 3.13.2git tries to load 3.11.1 plugins
In-Reply-To: <bug-3653-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3653-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3653-595-3iSTRrGj6F@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3653

--- Comment #1 from Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> ---
Created attachment 1662
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1662&action=edit
Load plugins accessing 3.11.1

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 15 20:25:26 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:25:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3653] Upgrading from Mageia5 default (3.11.1),
 3.13.2git tries to load 3.11.1 plugins
In-Reply-To: <bug-3653-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3653-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3653-595-mL2K8gkujF@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3653

--- Comment #2 from Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> ---
Created attachment 1663
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Load installs 3.13.2 plugin

Looks like CM accesses /usr/lib[64]/claws-mail/plugins/ on initial load; but
does load correct plugins from /usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins on "Load".

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 15 21:21:54 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:21:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3653] Upgrading from Mageia5 default (3.11.1),
 3.13.2git tries to load 3.11.1 plugins
In-Reply-To: <bug-3653-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3653-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3653

--- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Can you please post contents of [Plugins_GTK2] section in your
.claws-mail/clawsrc file?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 15 22:36:34 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 20:36:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3653] Upgrading from Mageia5 default (3.11.1),
 3.13.2git tries to load 3.11.1 plugins
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3653

--- Comment #4 from Charles A Edwards <cae at eslrahc.com> ---
When you updated your daughters system to 3.13.2git153 you should have
uninstalled
all the Mga5 3.11.1 rpms.

The plugin path is ~./claws-mail will now need to be updated for the new path

PATH in Mga5 will always search /usr/lib64 Before /usr/local/lib if it finds
plugins in /usr/lib64/ it will try to load them and not even check
/usr/local/lib


The issues you found is not a bug in Claws or even Mga5.
Similar would occur for any app if you have 2 instances of the same app
installed using 2 different paths.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 15 23:01:07 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 21:01:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3653] Upgrading from Mageia5 default (3.11.1),
 3.13.2git tries to load 3.11.1 plugins
In-Reply-To: <bug-3653-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3653

--- Comment #5 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Created attachment 1664
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1664&action=edit
Do not store full path for plugins in PLUGINDIR.

Actually, I think there really is a bug. The configuration stores full path for
loaded plugins, even if they're in the default plugin directory (which is
$PREFIX/claws-mail/plugins, where $PREFIX is usually different for Claws Mail
from a distro package, and when compiled from source). That results in the
program trying to load wrong plugins on startup.

Attached patch should fix this, although Pierre should either unload all the
wrong plugins (in italics) and load the right ones, or edit the mentioned
[Plugins_GTK2] section in clawsrc, leaving only e.g. "fancy.so" on each line,
instead of full paths. With this patch, the configuration will be saved
correctly from that point on, and fancy.so from correct directory will be
loaded every time.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 15 23:15:01 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 21:15:01 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3653] Upgrading from Mageia5 default (3.11.1),
 3.13.2git tries to load 3.11.1 plugins
In-Reply-To: <bug-3653-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3653

--- Comment #6 from Charles A Edwards <cae at eslrahc.com> ---
As long as the 3.11.1 rpms remains on the system the manifest and paths used
for
those rpms will remain and the there will exist 2 different prefix_dir
depending upon how claws is launched.

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From pauriem at gmail.com  Thu Jun 16 10:09:09 2016
From: pauriem at gmail.com (pauriem at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:09:09 -0600
Subject: [Users] way to append to log file instead of clobbering?
Message-ID: <CAEgzk+=ezk4s3wGoUZw9i1ixqhAwsss5pLqK-FZ0wRw8X=TVYQ@mail.gmail.com>

when I do a fetch or send from claws mail, it saves the details of the
transaction with the remote server in a log file, but the next time I
do any similar action, that log is replaced with the next one (though
it saves one previous instance as a back up). Is there a setting that
tells it to append new transactions to an existing log instead? This
would be better for me since now I have to copy each log file manually
if I want to reference it later and keep it from getting clobbered. I
am using the package for Ubuntu 14.04 Thanks for amy help!


From albert.aribaud at free.fr  Thu Jun 16 12:43:34 2016
From: albert.aribaud at free.fr (Albert ARIBAUD)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 12:43:34 +0200
Subject: [Users] way to append to log file instead of clobbering?
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Message-ID: <20160616124334.4b89857e@lilith>

Hi,

Le Thu, 16 Jun 2016 02:09:09 -0600
"pauriem at gmail.com" <pauriem at gmail.com> a écrit:

> when I do a fetch or send from claws mail, it saves the details of the
> transaction with the remote server in a log file, but the next time I
> do any similar action, that log is replaced with the next one (though
> it saves one previous instance as a back up). Is there a setting that
> tells it to append new transactions to an existing log instead? This
> would be better for me since now I have to copy each log file manually
> if I want to reference it later and keep it from getting clobbered. I
> am using the package for Ubuntu 14.04 Thanks for amy help!

I don't know if such a setting.

However, you could just watch the backup log file and each time it
changes (which is not as often as each time the main log changes), back
it up (possibly using logrotate if you have it available on your
system, so that you can easily control for instance how far back in
time you backup should go, or how many backup files at most you are
willing to keep).

This way, you would end up with:

- CM's current log
- CM's backup log
- as many backups as you like of CM's backup log

HTH.

Amicalement,
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 16 15:22:18 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 13:22:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3654] New: "Remember password permanently" option
Message-ID: <bug-3654-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3654

            Bug ID: 3654
           Summary: "Remember password permanently" option
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: All
                OS: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: pf at pfortin.com

Unless 'Remember password for this session' is checked, every POP poll asks for
the account password -- what is the reasoning for not remembering a password
beyond one poll per password request?  
Few [new] users will grok that logic -- I don't...

Upon startup, users are asked for each account's password; then still need to
re-enter them via "Edit accounts..." -or- Cancel poll (each account), then Edit
accounts so as not to have to enter passwords twice.

Change "Remember password for this session" option to "Remember password
permanently".

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 16 15:47:42 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 13:47:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3653] Upgrading from Mageia5 default (3.11.1),
 3.13.2git tries to load 3.11.1 plugins
In-Reply-To: <bug-3653-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3653-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3653-595-VI7VbN3xVo@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3653

--- Comment #7 from Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> ---
There is no reason why we can't have different versions of any program.  This
is no different from having the /boot/vmlinuz symlink pointing at one of N
kernels.

My build script was keeping the previous copy of CM as a backoff option; but I
now realize that this was useless since the plugins are over-written.

The distro provided version should not have to be removed for me to run git
versions.   Ideally, it would be great to have the ability save one or more
previous versions for backoff purposes.

In fact, when running a git version, then building a new version; while the
previous plugin files are "replaced" by the newly built ones, Linux will not
actually delete the old (now hidden) plugins until their reference counts go to
zero (when all instances of their parent CM are stopped).

(In reply to comment #3)
> Can you please post contents of [Plugins_GTK2] section in your
> .claws-mail/clawsrc file?

# Instances 1 & 2 (same; but order differs):
[Plugins_GTK2]
/usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/acpi_notifier.so
/usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/address_keeper.so
/usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/attachwarner.so
/usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/fancy.so
/usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/pdf_viewer.so
/usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/python.so
/usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/libravatar.so
/usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/rssyl.so
/usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/notification.so
/usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/att_remover.so

# Instance 3 (testing only):
[Plugins_GTK2]
pgpcore.so     <===
/usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/acpi_notifier.so
/usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/attachwarner.so
/usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/att_remover.so
/usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/fancy.so
/usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/libravatar.so
/usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/notification.so
/usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/pdf_viewer.so
/usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/smime.so
/usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/tnef_parse.so
/usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/vcalendar.so
/usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/python.so
/usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/python.so    <===

The first and last are interesting...

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 16 16:06:04 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 14:06:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3654] "Remember password permanently" option
In-Reply-To: <bug-3654-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3654-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3654-595-yEshUJCaRO@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3654

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
If you wants passwords remembered forever wrote them on account configuration,
is that simple.

'Remember password for this session' is for users which doesn't want to write
passwords in the accountrc file, but don't want to be asked for account
password on every retrieval while Claws Mail is running.

And some users doesn't trust neither disk nor memory and want to be asked every
time for the password.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 16 16:21:41 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 14:21:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3654] "Remember password permanently" option
In-Reply-To: <bug-3654-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3654-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3654-595-EEvHZQ82Xg@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3654

Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|RESOLVED                    |REOPENED
         Resolution|INVALID                     |---

--- Comment #2 from Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> If you wants passwords remembered forever wrote them on account
> configuration, is that simple.

That wasn't my point since I wrote:   re-enter them via "Edit accounts..."

> 'Remember password for this session' is for users which doesn't want to
> write passwords in the accountrc file, but don't want to be asked for
> account password on every retrieval while Claws Mail is running.

But what about the users who've been happily relying on their passwords already
existing in the accountrc file; but not being transferred to the new
passwordstorerc?  In fact, I was on git 141 which used passwordstorerc, yet
when moving to git 153, even those were deleted...

> And some users doesn't trust neither disk nor memory and want to be asked
> every time for the password.

I'd bet quite rare user(s) v. the typical user...  :)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 15 18:27:58 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:27:58 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3652] utils.c:4740:47: warning: ordered comparison of
 pointer with integer zero [-Wextra]
In-Reply-To: <bug-3652-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3652-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3652

--- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2016-06-16 16:30:02.314229950 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=5d455d4a2c3cd4d9b0274a625e00c40a14858aa0
Merge: 1c488fa 804af9b
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Thu Jun 16 16:30:01 2016 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=804af9b07981803eda6596ba6e62b8d05979d482
Author: Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
Date:   Thu Jun 16 16:28:54 2016 +0200

    Fix bug #3652 “warning: ordered comparison of pointer…”

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 16 16:41:08 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 14:41:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3654] "Remember password permanently" option
In-Reply-To: <bug-3654-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3654-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3654-595-qe7L3b5zVk@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3654

--- Comment #3 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #2)
> (In reply to comment #1)
> > If you wants passwords remembered forever wrote them on account
> > configuration, is that simple.
> 
> That wasn't my point since I wrote:   re-enter them via "Edit accounts..."

Ok.

> > 'Remember password for this session' is for users which doesn't want to
> > write passwords in the accountrc file, but don't want to be asked for
> > account password on every retrieval while Claws Mail is running.
> 
> But what about the users who've been happily relying on their passwords
> already existing in the accountrc file; but not being transferred to the new
> passwordstorerc?  In fact, I was on git 141 which used passwordstorerc, yet
> when moving to git 153, even those were deleted...

I think that change was announced by the developer:

http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/devel/2016-May/001698.html

If you follow git you're exposed to this kind of things I'm afraid.

> > And some users doesn't trust neither disk nor memory and want to be asked
> > every time for the password.
> 
> I'd bet quite rare user(s) v. the typical user...  :)

:-)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 16 17:45:28 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 15:45:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3654] "Remember password permanently" option
In-Reply-To: <bug-3654-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3654-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3654-595-I1G56IAtao@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3654

--- Comment #4 from Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> (In reply to comment #2)
> > (In reply to comment #1)

> If you follow git you're exposed to this kind of things I'm afraid.

True; but doing so doesn't make the point of preserving passwords through a
rework less valid.  While Andrej did add the caveat:
   Also, your currently stored passwords are invalid, as of latest commit
   (54ce0e8). Sorry. :)
surely he didn't intend for non-git users to lose all their passwords between
3.13.2 and the next release... or did he?   My goal in this enhancement request
was to point out that the new password system should not lose existing
passwords if entered via the password request dialog.  In my case, it meant
locating my hint file to recall the FOURTEEN active and different account
passwords; I should have cancelled all the POP fetches and cut my password
entry to 14 instead of 28; but hey... :)   Definitely won't be fun if this
happens to everyone on the next release...

Don't get me wrong...  I love being on git to help test and provide feedback.
:)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 16 18:20:19 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 16:20:19 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3654] "Remember password permanently" option
In-Reply-To: <bug-3654-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3654-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3654-595-TOdRdLp9SZ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3654

--- Comment #5 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
No, the idea is indeed to provide a seamless move to passwordrc for users
upgrading from previous version. But that will only apply for next release.
It's not worth it writing a migration code between two git versions, since at
that stage, we were still iterating on the format of the file (and nobody says
the format is final even now :) ).

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From chrisj01 at swbell.net  Fri Jun 17 22:04:49 2016
From: chrisj01 at swbell.net (Christopher Jones)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 20:04:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Users] POP3 not getting all mail
References: <230687477.5477866.1466193889248.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <230687477.5477866.1466193889248.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Hello,
This is my first post.  I've been using Claws and really like it, but there's one thing I haven't figured out yet.  I have several years of mail in my Yahoo mail.  When I setup a Yahoo account and use POP3 it only downloads mail from this year.  How can I get it to pull down the mail from further back?
A little about my system.  I'm running XUbuntu v16.04 and Claws v3.13.2.
Thank you for any assistance,
Chris
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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Mon Jun 20 03:19:24 2016
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 21:19:24 -0400
Subject: [Users] Claws 3.13.2 auto-read all my unread messages
Message-ID: <20160619211924.12693f47@mydesk.domain.cxm>

Hi all,

This only happened to me once, it was an event, but just in case some
of you have observed it and are wondering if you're crazy...

I came to my computer, clicked "Get Mail", and after it got the mail
for my inbox, it started reading the emails one by one, and then
marking them read. In other words, in the message list, the highlight
kept going down until it was at the newest message.

Then it got to my spam folder and started reading every one of that
folder's unread messages. Soon Claws aborted wordlessly, whether
because I hit Ctrl+C or clicked the windows X button or just because it
got confused, I don't know.

It acted as if I leaned on the n key and got the keyboard buffer filled
with hundreds of n characters, but I don't think I did that.

By the way, this was 3.13.2 or perhaps its latest predecessor: I'm on a
rolling release distro so I'm not sure.

So if you see something like this happen, you might not be crazy or
imagining things :-)

SteveT

Steve Litt 
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun 20 11:04:23 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 10:04:23 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws 3.13.2 auto-read all my unread messages
In-Reply-To: <20160619211924.12693f47@mydesk.domain.cxm>
References: <20160619211924.12693f47@mydesk.domain.cxm>
Message-ID: <20160620100423.0fd819f0@kujata>

On Sun, 19 Jun 2016 21:19:24 -0400
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote: 

> I came to my computer, clicked "Get Mail", and after it got the mail
> for my inbox, it started reading the emails one by one, and then
> marking them read. In other words, in the message list, the
> highlight kept going down until it was at the newest message.

The code to do this does not exist in Claws Mail. So it must be
something else.

 
> By the way, this was 3.13.2 or perhaps its latest predecessor: I'm
> on a rolling release distro so I'm not sure.

It's always easy to tell what version you are using. For
example, /Help/About, or the main window title, or `claws-mail
--version` to name three methods. Anyway, in your case:

X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu)

What distro is that 'rolling distro' that you use?

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun 20 11:14:32 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 10:14:32 +0100
Subject: [Users] POP3 not getting all mail
In-Reply-To: <230687477.5477866.1466193889248.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <230687477.5477866.1466193889248.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <230687477.5477866.1466193889248.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20160620101432.6a6442ed@kujata>

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 20:04:49 +0000 (UTC)
Christopher Jones <chrisj01 at swbell.net> wrote: 

> This is my first post.  I've been using Claws and really like it,
> but there's one thing I haven't figured out yet.  I have several
> years of mail in my Yahoo mail.  When I setup a Yahoo account and
> use POP3 it only downloads mail from this year.  How can I get it
> to pull down the mail from further back? A little about my system.
> I'm running XUbuntu v16.04 and Claws v3.13.2. Thank you for any
> assistance,

Probably the server is refusing to send more.

with regards

Paul


From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Mon Jun 20 23:46:52 2016
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 17:46:52 -0400
Subject: [Users] Claws 3.13.2 auto-read all my unread messages
In-Reply-To: <20160620100423.0fd819f0@kujata>
References: <20160619211924.12693f47@mydesk.domain.cxm>
 <20160620100423.0fd819f0@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160620174652.46d2da5c@mydesk.domain.cxm>

On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 10:04:23 +0100, Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>
wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jun 2016 21:19:24 -0400
> Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote: 
> 
> > I came to my computer, clicked "Get Mail", and after it got the mail
> > for my inbox, it started reading the emails one by one, and then
> > marking them read. In other words, in the message list, the
> > highlight kept going down until it was at the newest message.  
> 
> The code to do this does not exist in Claws Mail. So it must be
> something else.

Yeah, I thought it was a gremlin. I just wanted it on the list in case
somebody else has it happen.

> 
>  
> > By the way, this was 3.13.2 or perhaps its latest predecessor: I'm
> > on a rolling release distro so I'm not sure.  
> 
> It's always easy to tell what version you are using. For
> example, /Help/About, or the main window title, or `claws-mail
> --version` to name three methods.

My problem is I don't know the last time my Claws got upgraded, so the
Claws I started this thread with might be newer than the Claws in which
I observed the symptom.


>  Anyway, in your case:
> 
> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu)
> 
> What distro is that 'rolling distro' that you use?

Void Linux, 64 bit, GCC. Subjectively speaking, Void seems to always
have a nicely working Claws-Mail, which isn't surprising, because
almost all its software (except webkit browsers) works extremely well.

SteveT

Steve Litt 
== Whose business shall never be mentioned on the Claws-Mail List ==


From claws-mail at fy3.co.uk  Tue Jun 21 13:14:22 2016
From: claws-mail at fy3.co.uk (Chris Hirst)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 12:14:22 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws 3.13.2 auto-read all my unread messages
In-Reply-To: <20160620174652.46d2da5c@mydesk.domain.cxm>
References: <20160619211924.12693f47@mydesk.domain.cxm>
 <20160620100423.0fd819f0@kujata>
 <20160620174652.46d2da5c@mydesk.domain.cxm>
Message-ID: <20160621121422.5af708c8@chris-main>

I would suggest that your keyboard is the problem (down cursor key sticking) and you have

	"Mark message as read when selected, after [ 0 ] seconds"

set in Configuration -> Preferences -> Display -> Summaries ->

Set that to the;

	"Only when opened in a new window or when replied to"

option, and it will never happen again.



From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Wed Jun 22 19:51:04 2016
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 19:51:04 +0200
Subject: [Users] Quick subject / sender view
Message-ID: <20160622195104.178e7a1c@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

Hi,

When looking at a message in a mailbox, is it possible to quickly restrict
view to all messages from/to this sender? Likewise, all messages with the
same subject?

Yes, I can paste the address or subject in the From/To/CC/Subject selection
box, but I was looking for something even simpler (e.g., a right click menu
entry).


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Wed Jun 22 20:54:47 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 20:54:47 +0200
Subject: [Users] Quick subject / sender view
In-Reply-To: <20160622195104.178e7a1c@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
References: <20160622195104.178e7a1c@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <20160622205447.0ef81761@utnubu>

On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 19:51:04 +0200, Johan Vromans wrote:
>When looking at a message in a mailbox, is it possible to quickly
>restrict view to all messages from/to this sender? Likewise, all
>messages with the same subject?

View > Show or hide > [x] Column headers

You can either sort by clicks on the column header, e.g. by Subject
ascending, descending , click one or two times or by

View > Sort > ...

Perhaps also useful

View > Thread view

Keep in mind, the column headers might have a side scrollbar and
you can assign a shortcut to each menu entry.

Regards,
Ralf



From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Wed Jun 22 21:02:42 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 21:02:42 +0200
Subject: [Users] Quick subject / sender view
In-Reply-To: <20160622205447.0ef81761@utnubu>
References: <20160622195104.178e7a1c@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20160622205447.0ef81761@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160622210242.232be808@utnubu>

On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 20:54:47 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 19:51:04 +0200, Johan Vromans wrote:
>>When looking at a message in a mailbox, is it possible to quickly
>>restrict view to all messages from/to this sender? Likewise, all
>>messages with the same subject?  
>
>View > Show or hide > [x] Column headers
>
>You can either sort by clicks on the column header, e.g. by Subject
>ascending, descending , click one or two times or by
>
>View > Sort > ...
>
>Perhaps also useful
>
>View > Thread view
>
>Keep in mind, the column headers might have a side scrollbar and
>you can assign a shortcut to each menu entry.

PS: Off course, the above mentioned is restricted to messages in the
same folder, not for the same mailbox or account. But since you
mentioned the "selection box", you were speaking about a folder.



From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Wed Jun 22 23:31:38 2016
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 23:31:38 +0200
Subject: [Users] Quick subject / sender view
In-Reply-To: <20160622210242.232be808@utnubu>
References: <20160622195104.178e7a1c@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20160622205447.0ef81761@utnubu> <20160622210242.232be808@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160622233138.3b9e2e04@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 21:02:42 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <silver.bullet at zoho.com> wrote:

> PS: Off course, the above mentioned is restricted to messages in the
> same folder, not for the same mailbox or account. But since you
> mentioned the "selection box", you were speaking about a folder.

Indeed.

Thanks for the interesting suggestions. Although helpful, it is not what I
had in mind.

What I would like to achieve is the effect of putting the senders name (or
the subject) in the From/To/CC/Subject selection box, but with a single key
or mouse click.


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Thu Jun 23 01:22:19 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 01:22:19 +0200
Subject: [Users] Quick subject / sender view
In-Reply-To: <20160622233138.3b9e2e04@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
References: <20160622195104.178e7a1c@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20160622205447.0ef81761@utnubu> <20160622210242.232be808@utnubu>
 <20160622233138.3b9e2e04@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <20160623012219.3c4e90b1@utnubu>

On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 23:31:38 +0200, Johan Vromans wrote:
>What I would like to achieve is the effect of putting the senders name
>(or the subject) in the From/To/CC/Subject selection box, but with a
>single key or mouse click.

If you display a few headers, e.g. the "Subject" header in the message,
than you could select it with the mouse, after that right click, hold
the mouse key and move the pointer to the box, then release the mouse
key. This unfortunately doesn't work for addresses. For addresses you
could move the mouse pointer over an address, right click to select
copy, move the mouse pointer to the box and right click to select
paste.




From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Thu Jun 23 01:30:22 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 01:30:22 +0200
Subject: [Users] Quick subject / sender view
In-Reply-To: <20160623012219.3c4e90b1@utnubu>
References: <20160622195104.178e7a1c@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20160622205447.0ef81761@utnubu> <20160622210242.232be808@utnubu>
 <20160622233138.3b9e2e04@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20160623012219.3c4e90b1@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160623013022.50a07183@utnubu>

On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 01:22:19 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 23:31:38 +0200, Johan Vromans wrote:
>>What I would like to achieve is the effect of putting the senders name
>>(or the subject) in the From/To/CC/Subject selection box, but with a
>>single key or mouse click.  
>
>If you display a few headers, e.g. the "Subject" header in the message,
>than you could select it with the mouse, after that right click, hold
>the mouse key and move the pointer to the box, then release the mouse
>key. This unfortunately doesn't work for addresses. For addresses you
>could move the mouse pointer over an address, right click to select
>copy, move the mouse pointer to the box and right click to select
>paste.

PS: A single action to do this IMO would be not an advantage. At least
the drag and drop approach possible for the subject IMO is very good.
The right click approach for addresses indeed isn't that comfortable,
but I anyway would do it with a single mouse click by using the column
headers.



From epodata at gmail.com  Thu Jun 23 08:25:38 2016
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 08:25:38 +0200
Subject: [Users] Libravatar.
Message-ID: <20160623082538.729233a5@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>

I have created an account on libravatar.org, uploaded a picture to it
and associated it with 2 of my e-mail addresses but the picture only
shows up with one of the addresses used (the present address) and with
the the other address only the libravatar icon is shown. 

Is it a known issue or am I perhaps doing something wrong?

-- 
Erik


From cronocloudauron at gmail.com  Thu Jun 23 22:45:02 2016
From: cronocloudauron at gmail.com (Ron Rogers Jr.)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 15:45:02 -0500
Subject: [Users] Reply Bug.
Message-ID: <20160623154502.55de8279@wutai>

I'm seeing a strange bug where replies to messages don't
actually get sent. They don't even show in the Queue for a
second before being sent like regular messages do.  This is with
an ISP IMAP Account.  

This is on Fedora 23 Claws-Mail 3.13.2
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From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Fri Jun 24 08:08:33 2016
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 08:08:33 +0200
Subject: [Users] Reply Bug.
In-Reply-To: <20160623154502.55de8279@wutai>
References: <20160623154502.55de8279@wutai>
Message-ID: <20160624080833.00adee33@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 15:45:02 -0500
"Ron Rogers Jr." <cronocloudauron at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm seeing a strange bug where replies to messages don't
> actually get sent. They don't even show in the Queue for a
> second before being sent like regular messages do.  This is with
> an ISP IMAP Account.  
> 
> This is on Fedora 23 Claws-Mail 3.13.2

I'm chiming in. Same Fedora, same Claws.
I've always thought it was me making some weird mistake.
I haven't been able to find a reproducible situation.

-- Johan
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 24 11:04:27 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:04:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] Reply Bug.
In-Reply-To: <20160623154502.55de8279@wutai>
References: <20160623154502.55de8279@wutai>
Message-ID: <20160624100427.4a556eec@kujata>

On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 15:45:02 -0500
"Ron Rogers Jr." <cronocloudauron at gmail.com> wrote: 

> I'm seeing a strange bug where replies to messages don't
> actually get sent. They don't even show in the Queue for a
> second before being sent like regular messages do.  This is with
> an ISP IMAP Account.  
> 
> This is on Fedora 23 Claws-Mail 3.13.2

You're going to have to include some more information for this to be
useful. Start with `claws-mail --debug` and include the debug output
around this (attempted) operation.

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 24 11:48:08 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:48:08 +0100
Subject: [Users] Reply Bug.
In-Reply-To: <20160623154502.55de8279@wutai>
References: <20160623154502.55de8279@wutai>
Message-ID: <20160624104808.1107d48e@kujata>

On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 15:45:02 -0500
"Ron Rogers Jr." <cronocloudauron at gmail.com> wrote: 

> I'm seeing a strange bug where replies

For replies only??

with regards

Paul


From cronocloudauron at gmail.com  Fri Jun 24 15:49:46 2016
From: cronocloudauron at gmail.com (Ron Rogers Jr.)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 08:49:46 -0500
Subject: [Users] Reply Bug.
In-Reply-To: <20160624080833.00adee33@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
References: <20160623154502.55de8279@wutai>
 <20160624080833.00adee33@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <20160624084946.5acbe99f@wutai>

On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 08:08:33 +0200
Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl> wrote:


> I'm chiming in. Same Fedora, same Claws.
> I've always thought it was me making some weird mistake.
> I haven't been able to find a reproducible situation.
> 
> -- Johan

I'm trying to figure out if it's a configuration issue, so I've
manually set folders in the account settings.  We'll see.

Ron Rogers Jr. (CronoCloud)
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From epodata at gmail.com  Fri Jun 24 17:21:12 2016
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 17:21:12 +0200
Subject: [Users] Libravatar.
In-Reply-To: <20160623082538.729233a5@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20160623082538.729233a5@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20160624172112.00c50061@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>

On 2016-06-23 at 08:25:38 Erik P. Olsen wrote:

> I have created an account on libravatar.org, uploaded a picture to it
> and associated it with 2 of my e-mail addresses but the picture only
> shows up with one of the addresses used (the present address) and with
> the the other address only the libravatar icon is shown. 
> 
> Is it a known issue or am I perhaps doing something wrong?
> 
OK. I changed the cache refresh interval from 24 hours to 1 hour. That
did it! Then back to 24 hours again.

-- 
Erik
 


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 29 17:09:19 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:09:19 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3655] New: Gmail IMAP account asks to "Rebuild folder
 tree" on each launch
Message-ID: <bug-3655-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3655

            Bug ID: 3655
           Summary: Gmail IMAP account asks to "Rebuild folder tree" on
                    each launch
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.13.2
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: nticompass at gmail.com

Created attachment 1665
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1665&action=edit
Error message that pops up on launch

I've set up Claws Mail to use my Gmail account via IMAP.  Every time I open
Claws, I get the following error:

> Claws Mail has detected a configured mailbox, but it is incomplete.  It is possibly due to a failing IMAP account.  Use "Rebuild folder tree" on the mailbox parent folder's context menu to try to fix it.

There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with my folders/account.  I can
get/send mail just fine.  Running "Rebuild folder tree" does that, but the
error *still* pops up on next launch.

Why is this error popping up every time I open Claws Mail whether or not I run
"Rebuild folder tree"?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 29 17:59:56 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:59:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3655] Gmail IMAP account asks to "Rebuild folder tree"
 on each launch
In-Reply-To: <bug-3655-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3655-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3655-595-Q1AUMAjoga@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3655

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
How are you quitting Claws Mail? Are you killing it rather than quitting
cleanly?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 29 18:26:35 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 16:26:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3655] Gmail IMAP account asks to "Rebuild folder tree"
 on each launch
In-Reply-To: <bug-3655-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3655-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3655-595-mpenmvroMg@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3655

--- Comment #2 from Eric Siegel <nticompass at gmail.com> ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> How are you quitting Claws Mail? Are you killing it rather than quitting
> cleanly?

I'm just hitting the 'x' or doing File > Exit.  Unless something isn't
closing/exiting properly in the background, I'm not killing it uncleanly.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 29 18:36:51 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 16:36:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3655] Gmail IMAP account asks to "Rebuild folder tree"
 on each launch
In-Reply-To: <bug-3655-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3655-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3655-595-EDJK2d6MU3@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3655

--- Comment #3 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Is ~/.claws-mail/folderlist.xml writeable by your user?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 29 19:30:01 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 17:30:01 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3655] Gmail IMAP account asks to "Rebuild folder tree"
 on each launch
In-Reply-To: <bug-3655-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3655-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3655-595-a1r8i6i26I@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3655

--- Comment #4 from Eric Siegel <nticompass at gmail.com> ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> Is ~/.claws-mail/folderlist.xml writeable by your user?

Yeah, seems to be:

nticompass at DL3Solutions-HP ~ % ls -alh ~/.claws-mail/folderlist.xml
-rw------- 1 nticompass nticompass 5.8K Jun 29 13:25
/home/nticompass/.claws-mail/folderlist.xml

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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Wed Jun 29 20:11:42 2016
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:11:42 -0400
Subject: [Users] Compound search is very slow
Message-ID: <20160629141142.40f368d7@mydesk.domain.cxm>

Hi all,

I'm talking about the search field appearing just below the message
list and just above the single message box, and I'm talking about its
leftmost dropdown set at "extended".

Perform the following search:

al 1 & b through

If your situation is anything like mine, this will take far, far longer
than just al 1 (date is indexed and is selected immediately), and
subjectively a lot longer than you'd imagine it should take to search
the bodies of today's and yesterday's emails.

I haven't looked at the code, but I have a feeling it's (slow)
body-searching a lot more messages than just those selected by al 1.

How hard would it be for these extended searches to select left to
right, so the user can select by indexed values before unindexed values?

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt 
== Whose business shall never be mentioned on the Claws-Mail List ==




-- 
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Steve Litt
June 2016 featured book: Troubleshooting: Why Bother?
http://www.troubleshooters.com/twb


From geek at uniserve.com  Wed Jun 29 22:17:15 2016
From: geek at uniserve.com (Dave Stevens)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:17:15 -0700
Subject: [Users] Compound search is very slow
In-Reply-To: <20160629141142.40f368d7@mydesk.domain.cxm>
References: <20160629141142.40f368d7@mydesk.domain.cxm>
Message-ID: <20160629131715.0bee5416@user-Satellite-A100>

On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:11:42 -0400
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I'm talking about the search field appearing just below the message
> list and just above the single message box, and I'm talking about its
> leftmost dropdown set at "extended".
> 
> Perform the following search:
> 
> al 1 & b through
> 
> If your situation is anything like mine, this will take far, far
> longer than just al 1 (date is indexed and is selected immediately),
> and subjectively a lot longer than you'd imagine it should take to
> search the bodies of today's and yesterday's emails.
> 
> I haven't looked at the code, but I have a feeling it's (slow)
> body-searching a lot more messages than just those selected by al 1.
> 
> How hard would it be for these extended searches to select left to
> right, so the user can select by indexed values before unindexed
> values?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> SteveT

On my old slow Toshiba Satellite it took about a second or two to find
no matches in a thousand emails.

D

> 
> Steve Litt 
> == Whose business shall never be mentioned on the Claws-Mail List ==
> 
> 
> 
> 



-- 
Reporter to Mahatma Ghandi after his tour of east London
"What do you think of western civilization, Mr. Ghandi?"
Ghandi - "I think it would be an excellent idea!"



From edodd55 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 29 22:40:00 2016
From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 06:40:00 +1000
Subject: [Users] Compound search is very slow
In-Reply-To: <20160629131715.0bee5416@user-Satellite-A100>
References: <20160629141142.40f368d7@mydesk.domain.cxm>
 <20160629131715.0bee5416@user-Satellite-A100>
Message-ID: <20160630064000.6928c7c7.edodd55@gmail.com>

On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:17:15 -0700
Dave Stevens <geek at uniserve.com> wrote:

> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I'm talking about the search field appearing just below the message
> > list and just above the single message box, and I'm talking about
> > its leftmost dropdown set at "extended".
> > 
> > Perform the following search:
> > 
> > al 1 & b through
> > 
> > If your situation is anything like mine, this will take far, far
> > longer than just al 1 (date is indexed and is selected immediately),
> > and subjectively a lot longer than you'd imagine it should take to
> > search the bodies of today's and yesterday's emails.
> > 
> > I haven't looked at the code, but I have a feeling it's (slow)
> > body-searching a lot more messages than just those selected by al 1.
> > 
> > How hard would it be for these extended searches to select left to
> > right, so the user can select by indexed values before unindexed
> > values?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > SteveT  
> 
> On my old slow Toshiba Satellite it took about a second or two to find
> no matches in a thousand emails.
> 
> D

Odd, indeed, as I have now got two matches.
Searching my quad core whatever, even through a folder of 41K mails did
not take long.

Liz


From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Thu Jun 30 00:10:33 2016
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 18:10:33 -0400
Subject: [Users] Compound search is very slow
In-Reply-To: <20160629131715.0bee5416@user-Satellite-A100>
References: <20160629141142.40f368d7@mydesk.domain.cxm>
 <20160629131715.0bee5416@user-Satellite-A100>
Message-ID: <20160629181033.0df9213a@mydesk.domain.cxm>

On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:17:15 -0700, Dave Stevens <geek at uniserve.com>
wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:11:42 -0400
> Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I'm talking about the search field appearing just below the message
> > list and just above the single message box, and I'm talking about
> > its leftmost dropdown set at "extended".
> > 
> > Perform the following search:
> > 
> > al 1 & b through
> > 
> > If your situation is anything like mine, this will take far, far
> > longer than just al 1 (date is indexed and is selected immediately),
> > and subjectively a lot longer than you'd imagine it should take to
> > search the bodies of today's and yesterday's emails.
> > 
> > I haven't looked at the code, but I have a feeling it's (slow)
> > body-searching a lot more messages than just those selected by al 1.
> > 
> > How hard would it be for these extended searches to select left to
> > right, so the user can select by indexed values before unindexed
> > values?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > SteveT  
> 
> On my old slow Toshiba Satellite it took about a second or two to find
> no matches in a thousand emails.

Thanks Dave,

I forgot to mention in my symptom description that if the b string is
something that's not in any of those that passed al, it will be the
same speed as al. Which is bizarre: I wouldn't know how to write an
algorithm that could guess whether before beginning to count.

Liz mentioned that it was quick to find 2, so I looked in more detail,
given that my main inbox al 1 & b the took about 20 seconds.

Well, it turns out that first, my inbox is a local Dovecot server, and
second, I have my Claws set to not immediately move deleted to trash:
It just marks them deleted.

It turns out on my box al 1 yields 148 emails of all different sizes,
both deleted and undeleted, both younger than 2 days and in the future
by days or years.

Interestingly, I can reduce the group to deleted only by using the D
operator in the search, but there's no equivalent for UNdeleted.
There's also no way to say age between 0 and 1: If you say less than 1,
it gets all negative ages too.

It would be handy if the following search criteria could be added:

d for NOT deleted.

ap for age positive

an for age negative

But of course the not operator (~ or !) pretty much gives those
capabilities.

So when I did:

~D & al 1 & the

My inbox took only about 11 seconds and pulled up 14 messages, as
opposed to pulling up 152 messages without the ~D (but taking not much
longer).

I'll look into it more, but for now I'm assuming my slow searching is
caused by:

1) I was searching a lot of deleted messages I didn't know about.

2) I don't immediately expunge deleted messages.

3) My account is via Dovecot IMAP, not a local MH folder

4) I have a feeling the algorithm to search in bodies is somewhat slow.

Thanks everyone!

SteveT

Steve Litt 
== Whose business shall never be mentioned on the Claws-Mail List ==


From geek at uniserve.com  Thu Jun 30 01:31:21 2016
From: geek at uniserve.com (Dave Stevens)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 16:31:21 -0700
Subject: [Users] Compound search is very slow
In-Reply-To: <20160629181033.0df9213a@mydesk.domain.cxm>
References: <20160629141142.40f368d7@mydesk.domain.cxm>
 <20160629131715.0bee5416@user-Satellite-A100>
 <20160629181033.0df9213a@mydesk.domain.cxm>
Message-ID: <20160629163121.189326jo3sl9bqyx@webmail.uniserve.com>

Quoting Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com>:

> On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:17:15 -0700, Dave Stevens <geek at uniserve.com>
> wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:11:42 -0400
>> Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,

Hi yourself,

I'm glad you made progress, but can you tell me more about those  
emails from the future? ;-)

D

>> >
>> > I'm talking about the search field appearing just below the message

snip!

-- 
"As long as politics is the shadow cast on society by big business,
the attenuation of the shadow will not change the substance."

-- John Dewey







From claws-mail at fy3.co.uk  Thu Jun 30 10:18:57 2016
From: claws-mail at fy3.co.uk (Chris Hirst)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 09:18:57 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3655] Gmail IMAP account asks to "Rebuild folder
 tree" on each launch
In-Reply-To: <bug-3655-595-mpenmvroMg@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3655-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3655-595-mpenmvroMg@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20160630091857.2f8063d0@chris-main>


Just hitting 'x' then closing the machine down will probably be a 'dirty' close because the 'x' just closes the GUI leaving claws still running (system tray icon).



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 30 10:43:10 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 09:43:10 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3655] Gmail IMAP account asks to "Rebuild folder
 tree" on each launch
In-Reply-To: <20160630091857.2f8063d0@chris-main>
References: <bug-3655-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3655-595-mpenmvroMg@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <20160630091857.2f8063d0@chris-main>
Message-ID: <20160630094310.7a02a49c@kujata>

On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 09:18:57 +0100
Chris Hirst <claws-mail at fy3.co.uk> wrote: 

> Just hitting 'x' then closing the machine down will probably be a
> 'dirty' close because the 'x' just closes the GUI leaving claws
> still running (system tray icon).

That is a good point - perhaps the reporter is using the Notification
plugin's systray module. However, the reporter is not subscribed to
this list so is unlikely to read what you said.

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 30 10:57:19 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 08:57:19 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3655] Gmail IMAP account asks to "Rebuild folder tree"
 on each launch
In-Reply-To: <bug-3655-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3655-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3655-595-9EeA495FFc@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3655

--- Comment #5 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
After quitting Claws Mail, please make a copy of folderlist.xml and then email
it to me.

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From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Thu Jun 30 11:37:53 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 11:37:53 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3655] Gmail IMAP account asks to "Rebuild folder
 tree" on each launch
In-Reply-To: <20160630091857.2f8063d0@chris-main>
References: <bug-3655-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3655-595-mpenmvroMg@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <20160630091857.2f8063d0@chris-main>
Message-ID: <20160630113753.6053e9f6@utnubu>

On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 09:18:57 +0100, Chris Hirst wrote:
>Just hitting 'x' then closing the machine down will probably be a
>'dirty' close because the 'x' just closes the GUI leaving claws still
>running (system tray icon).

You are aware that you reply to the mailing list and it's not
automatically a bug tracker comment, too?

If I hit the close icon of the claws window, claws gets closed, in what
way it ever might get closed, it's not running anymore and there's no
system tray icon at all.

Regards,
Ralf

PS:

However, assumed somebody should keep it running e.g. for usage with
a desktop environment's restore option for the next user session, I
expect that exiting the desktop environment session shouldn't be
considered as a dirty close. Theoretically even a default kill from
command line not necessarily must cause a dirty exit.

"SIGTERM
The SIGTERM signal is sent to a process to request its termination.
Unlike the SIGKILL signal, it can be caught and interpreted or ignored
by the process. This allows the process to perform nice termination
releasing resources and saving state if appropriate." -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_signal



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 30 11:43:30 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 10:43:30 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3655] Gmail IMAP account asks to "Rebuild folder
 tree" on each launch
In-Reply-To: <20160630113753.6053e9f6@utnubu>
References: <bug-3655-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3655-595-mpenmvroMg@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <20160630091857.2f8063d0@chris-main>
 <20160630113753.6053e9f6@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160630104330.146fb6d9@kujata>

On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 11:37:53 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <silver.bullet at zoho.com> wrote: 

> If I hit the close icon of the claws window, claws gets closed, in
> what way it ever might get closed, it's not running anymore and
> there's no system tray icon at all.

The point being made was that the Notification plugin's systray
module has a 'close to tray' option.

with regards

Paul


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Thu Jun 30 11:59:20 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 11:59:20 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3655] Gmail IMAP account asks to "Rebuild folder
 tree" on each launch
In-Reply-To: <20160630104330.146fb6d9@kujata>
References: <bug-3655-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3655-595-mpenmvroMg@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <20160630091857.2f8063d0@chris-main>
 <20160630113753.6053e9f6@utnubu> <20160630104330.146fb6d9@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160630115920.27c2fe75@utnubu>

On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 10:43:30 +0100, Paul wrote:
>On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 11:37:53 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: 
>> If I hit the close icon of the claws window, claws gets closed, in
>> what way it ever might get closed, it's not running anymore and
>> there's no system tray icon at all.  
>
>The point being made was that the Notification plugin's systray
>module has a 'close to tray' option.

Some people don't exit apps before they shut down the machine. Some
desktop environment then will automatically start those apps next time,
without the need to explicitly add them to the auto-start apps. I guess
this shouldn't be considered as a dirty exit. The DE likely sends a
signal that allows the app to terminate with saving it's state.

FWIW I don't make usage of such a feature.

Regards,
Ralf



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 30 15:47:47 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 13:47:47 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3655] Gmail IMAP account asks to "Rebuild folder tree"
 on each launch
In-Reply-To: <bug-3655-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3655-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3655-595-q6IsVzKPvV@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3655

--- Comment #6 from Eric Siegel <nticompass at gmail.com> ---
(In reply to comment #5)
> After quitting Claws Mail, please make a copy of folderlist.xml and then
> email it to me.

Done.

As a note, I had vCalendar enabled when the account was first added, I later
disabled it.  Re-enabling vCalendar does not solve this issue, but I figured I
should point that out.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 30 16:06:53 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 14:06:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3655] Gmail IMAP account asks to "Rebuild folder tree"
 on each launch
In-Reply-To: <bug-3655-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3655-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3655-595-FQ7Hk8mdly@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3655

--- Comment #7 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
There is no problem with your folderlist.xml. I was able to use it without any
unexpected behaviour and without being prompted to "rebuild folder tree".

Let's try looking at the debug output to gather more clues.

Start claws-mail with "claws-mail --debug > claws.debug".

Once you have been prompted to rebuild your folder tree, rebuild it, and quit.

And then send me the claws.debug file.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 30 16:21:59 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 14:21:59 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3653] Upgrading from Mageia5 default (3.11.1),
 3.13.2git tries to load 3.11.1 plugins
In-Reply-To: <bug-3653-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3653-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3653-595-mda7RbWRd5@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3653

--- Comment #8 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
Hi,

By default full path of plugins is saved for historical reasons. If you edit
some plugin path and make it relative (to binary prefix) it will be kept as is,
hence, if you want some plugin to be loaded for the corresponding binary, just
edit the rc file and keep only the plugin name.

I'll try to document this after returning back home, it's not fun to type on a
phone ;-)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 30 16:45:58 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 14:45:58 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3655] Gmail IMAP account asks to "Rebuild folder tree"
 on each launch
In-Reply-To: <bug-3655-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3655-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3655-595-bpdySBp8iK@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3655

--- Comment #8 from Eric Siegel <nticompass at gmail.com> ---
(In reply to comment #7)
> There is no problem with your folderlist.xml. I was able to use it without
> any unexpected behaviour and without being prompted to "rebuild folder tree".
> 
> Let's try looking at the debug output to gather more clues.
> 
> Start claws-mail with "claws-mail --debug > claws.debug".
> 
> Once you have been prompted to rebuild your folder tree, rebuild it, and
> quit.
> 
> And then send me the claws.debug file.

I emailed you the "claws.debug" file.

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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Thu Jun 30 23:16:12 2016
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 17:16:12 -0400
Subject: [Users] Compound search is very slow
In-Reply-To: <20160629163121.189326jo3sl9bqyx@webmail.uniserve.com>
References: <20160629141142.40f368d7@mydesk.domain.cxm>
 <20160629131715.0bee5416@user-Satellite-A100>
 <20160629181033.0df9213a@mydesk.domain.cxm>
 <20160629163121.189326jo3sl9bqyx@webmail.uniserve.com>
Message-ID: <20160630171612.55cf10d2@mydesk.domain.cxm>

On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 16:31:21 -0700, Dave Stevens <geek at uniserve.com>
wrote:

> Hi yourself,
> 
> I'm glad you made progress, but can you tell me more about those  
> emails from the future? ;-)

Glad to.

There's a certain class of person who makes me wonder if a license
should be required to use the Internet. No matter how much you read
them the rules of the road, they keep getting the same things wrong.

A significant subset of them have computer clocks with the wrong time.
Of those, most have whatever time is the default for their computer
hardware. Yeah, their battery ran out and they just didn't care.

But the more creative ignoramuses actually have their computer clocks
set ahead: Most by days, a few by years.

Now the beauty of this whole thing is that the clowns stupid enough not
to have their time right are also stupid enough to get virused up and
recruited into the global spam bot army, from whence they send billions
of wrong-time emails, some of which get to me.

One guy, who should know better, on a Linux list, has emailed me some
emails from 2032.

Several times. After receiving feedback about it.

SteveT

Steve Litt 
== Whose business shall never be mentioned on the Claws-Mail List ==