[Users] Bug candidate - Trash button has an incorrect name [SOLUTION]

Chad Wallace cwallace at lodgingcompany.com
Sun Jan 10 19:28:38 CET 2016

On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 18:51:54 +0100
KA <soldes at gmx.fr> wrote:

> Ok, reading you all, it starts to make sense ...
> So eventually Slavko was right this is a translation issue !!
> Why ?
> Because :
> In English, most of the time, verbs use the very same word as nouns.
> Example : "a trash" "to trash"
> Whilst on other languages, we use different nouns
> for example in French, "corbeille" you will absolutely never find a
> verb for it ... apart from "effacer" which is completely different.
> Now it appears that these buttons have been incorrectly translated in
> some non-English languages and if you want to make an action which is
> to open you recycle bin I am sorry but you WILL DELETE YOUR CURRENT
> MESSAGE, this is a fact ...

For French, I would suggest "jeter" rather than "effacer".  Moving a
message to trash is a different thing than deleting it.  When
you use the Trash button, you move the mesage to a different folder,
and you can then get it back if you want to--much like if you throw
something into your garbage bin at home. On the other hand, deleting a
message removes it immediately and irreparably.  "Delete" also has a
separate menu item and icon apart from the "Trash" one, so you
wouldn't want two different icons with similar names doing different

For Spanish, maybe "descartar" or "desechar"?  Basically, a word that
evokes tossing something away, rather than making it not exist.

I would leave the English alone, because the word "Trash" works as
both a noun and a verb.

> ----------Original Message----------
> El Sun, 10 Jan 2016 18:33:40 +0100
> Michael Schwendt <bugs.michael at gmx.net> escribió:
> > On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 21:26:56 +0100, KA wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi Liz,
> > > I understand your point. However, this button with this icon,
> > > IMHO, can be confused with the one on the left pane that is to
> > > "see" what is in the trash directory (both have the same name and
> > > same icon despite one is for an action "trashing" the other is of
> > > a folder). Regards,
> > 
> > The toolbar contains buttons to execute actions.
> > The folder list view shows the mail folders you can work on.
> > 
> > Let it rest.
> > 
> > If anyone really is confused by that, it boils down to a matter of
> > education. Documentation can explain the main window and the toolbar
> > *and the possibility to rename a button, too.
> > 
> > Sometimes the names of mail folders will be the same than toolbar
> > buttons. For example, and not limited to, "Spam" and "Trash". I've
> > even had a folder "Next" for some time. And there are more
> > overlaps, if you add custom buttons with custom names.


C. Chad Wallace, B.Sc.
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