From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Dec 1 06:58:55 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 05:58:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3737] Evolution-data-server plugin creation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3737 --- Comment #14 from André Auzi --- > Does it mean that your feature would allow to access Evolution's > addressbooks & calendars which can are synced with one's phone(s) via > CardDAV & CalDAV server (I use Baikal)? At the moment it just allows you to use the content of the default address book defined in evolution data server for address completions. In my settings it is a CardDAV address book which I also sync on my phone. At the moment, the plugin does not deal with Calendars and it does *not* allow to edit CardDAV address book's contacts. On my desktop, I use gnome-contacts to manage the addresses. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Dec 1 10:25:00 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 09:25:00 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3738] UI frequently hangs when clicking on a folder or a message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3738 --- Comment #3 from johannes at selfnet.de --- Thanks to the network log, I can confirm that every time an action keeps hanging (status message ending with ..., turning mouse wheel, irresponsive application) there is a continuous flow of "FETCH DATA" operations to be observed and the action is only perform after these have finished. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Dec 1 10:41:36 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 09:41:36 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3738] UI frequently hangs when clicking on a folder or a message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3738 --- Comment #4 from Andrej Kacian --- The interesting bits would come a few lines just before the deluge of FETCH lines happens, and perhaps a few lines just after. That could tell us what is actually being fetched. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Dec 1 10:48:13 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 09:48:13 +0000 Subject: [Users] how to make ff email wrap at a given length In-Reply-To: <20161128171519.013121db@ulgy_thing> References: <20161128171519.013121db@ulgy_thing> Message-ID: <20161201094813.763ec0e6@kujata> On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 17:15:19 -0500 David Niklas wrote: > I want to make format flowed emails wrap at 80 chars regardless of > screen size. > I have two problems. > 1. What option do I set? > 2. (harder) What do I do about digests? > For example, this debian digest contains at lest 1 ff message and > I'm uncertain how or if claws mail will be able to distinguish them > from a message that has been purposefully horizontally elongated > for the purpose of preserving the data. One option is to create an Action (/Configuration/Actions) using the command line: |fmt -s -w 80| Apply it from the /Tools/Actions/... menu, add a hotkey-combo to make it quicker. with regards Paul From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Dec 1 11:01:53 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 10:01:53 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3738] UI frequently hangs when clicking on a folder or a message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3738 --- Comment #5 from johannes at selfnet.de --- A sample from the log below. Is there a way to store the whole log on disk? [10:57:16] IMAP> 25 SELECT "[Gmail]/Sent Mail" [10:57:16] IMAP< * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen $Forwarded $Label3 $NotPhishing $Phishing Junk NonJunk) [10:57:16] IMAP< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen $Forwarded $Label3 $NotPhishing $Phishing Junk NonJunk \*)] Flags permitted. [10:57:16] IMAP< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 594878695] UIDs valid. [10:57:16] IMAP< * 16230 EXISTS [10:57:16] IMAP< * 0 RECENT [10:57:16] IMAP< * OK [UIDNEXT 19019] Predicted next UID. [10:57:16] IMAP< * OK [HIGHESTMODSEQ 15657458] [10:57:16] IMAP< 25 OK [READ-WRITE] [Gmail]/Sent Mail selected. (Success) [10:57:16] IMAP- [fetching UIDs...] [10:57:16] IMAP> 26 UID FETCH 1:* (UID) [10:57:16] IMAP< [FETCH data - 514 bytes] [10:57:16] IMAP< [FETCH data - 1576 bytes] [10:57:16] IMAP< [FETCH data - 2050 bytes] [10:57:16] IMAP< [FETCH data - 250 bytes] [10:57:16] IMAP< [FETCH data - 2300 bytes] [10:57:16] IMAP< [FETCH data - 2300 bytes] [10:57:16] IMAP< [FETCH data - 2300 bytes] [10:57:16] IMAP< [FETCH data - 2300 bytes] [10:57:16] IMAP< [FETCH data - 2300 bytes] [10:57:16] IMAP< [FETCH data - 2300 bytes] [10:57:16] IMAP< [FETCH data - 2300 bytes] ... [10:57:16] IMAP< [FETCH data - 2700 bytes] [10:57:16] IMAP< [FETCH data - 2700 bytes] [10:57:16] IMAP< [FETCH data - 2700 bytes] [10:57:16] IMAP< [FETCH data - 2700 bytes] [10:57:16] IMAP< [FETCH data - 810 bytes] [10:57:16] IMAP< 26 OK Success [10:57:16] IMAP- [fetching flags...] [10:57:16] IMAP> 27 UID FETCH 1:* (FLAGS UID) [10:57:17] IMAP< [FETCH data - 1026 bytes] [10:57:17] IMAP< [FETCH data - 2050 bytes] [10:57:17] IMAP< [FETCH data - 414 bytes] [10:57:17] IMAP< [FETCH data - 3700 bytes] [10:57:17] IMAP< [FETCH data - 3710 bytes] [10:57:17] IMAP< [FETCH data - 3709 bytes] [10:57:17] IMAP< [FETCH data - 3709 bytes] ... [10:59:54] IMAP< [FETCH data - 2700 bytes] [10:59:54] IMAP< [FETCH data - 2700 bytes] [10:59:54] IMAP< [FETCH data - 2700 bytes] [10:59:54] IMAP< [FETCH data - 810 bytes] [10:59:54] IMAP< 53 OK Success [10:59:54] IMAP- [fetching flags...] [10:59:54] IMAP> 54 UID FETCH 1:* (FLAGS UID) [10:59:55] IMAP< [FETCH data - 1026 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< [FETCH data - 2050 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< [FETCH data - 414 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< [FETCH data - 3700 bytes] ... [10:59:55] IMAP< [data - 54 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< [data - 74 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< [data - 90 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< [FETCH data - 320 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< [data - 124 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< [data - 64 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< [data - 64 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< [data - 124 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< [data - 64 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< [data - 83 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< [FETCH data - 1284 bytes] [10:59:55] IMAP< 54 OK Success [10:59:55] IMAP> 55 STATUS "[Gmail]/Spam" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) [10:59:55] IMAP< * STATUS "[Gmail]/Spam" (MESSAGES 196 UIDNEXT 116929 UIDVALIDITY 594878704 UNSEEN 171) [10:59:55] IMAP< 55 OK Success -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Dec 1 21:12:21 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 20:12:21 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2257] Some email bodies not retrieved from Exchange 2007 thru IMAP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2257 --- Comment #17 from Thomas De Schampheleire --- I confirm that this issue is triggered by filters. I used to have this issue back in February 2016. At some point I disabled all filters, and did not get the problem since. Today I added some new filters, and suddenly I see this problem again. I already attached a log previously. Is there anything else I can do to help? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 2 10:47:53 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 09:47:53 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3728] claws-mail 3.14.1 for Windows (64-bit) crashing sporadically when opening unread emails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3728 --- Comment #7 from Andrej Kacian --- Alas, this webkitgtk upgrade seems unlikely - the G++ compiler from Mingw-w64 does not have complete support for C++ standard library threading and locking. Particularly, it's missing support for std::mutex. And webkitgtk-2.3.5 uses that. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 2 13:41:18 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 12:41:18 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3742] New: Attaching file with plus sign in filename via drag and drop doesn't work Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3742 Bug ID: 3742 Summary: Attaching file with plus sign in filename via drag and drop doesn't work Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.13.2 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Compose Window Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: bugzilla.hivomail at neverbox.com When I try to drag file abc+def.txt on a compose window, I get the error message "File ///home/username/abc def.txt doesn't exist". It works via the attach file dialog and for files without a plus sign. I'm using KDE. Cheers, Hans -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 2 13:51:31 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 12:51:31 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3742] Attaching file with plus sign in filename via drag and drop doesn't work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3742 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE --- Comment #1 from Paul --- *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 2202 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 2 13:51:31 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 12:51:31 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2202] Drag-n-Drop attach of a file with "+" in filename doesn't work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2202 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |bugzilla.hivomail at neverbox. | |com --- Comment #2 from Paul --- *** Bug 3742 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 2 13:52:40 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 12:52:40 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3742] Attaching file with plus sign in filename via drag and drop doesn't work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3742 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|DUPLICATE |--- -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From jvromans at squirrel.nl Sat Dec 3 11:18:10 2016 From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2016 11:18:10 +0100 Subject: [Users] Sticky selection when following a reply Message-ID: <20161203111810.3848a640@phoenix.squirrel.nl> Hi, When I click on the "replied" icon of a message, I'm presented with the reply. This is done by visiting the Sent folder with an extended "inreplyto" search. Good. However, when I go back to the original folder, the extended search sticks and suddenly all of my messages seem to have vanished. Once you know it it is not a big deal, however I was wondering whether this really is intentional. -- Johan From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Dec 3 14:56:02 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2016 13:56:02 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3728] claws-mail 3.14.1 for Windows (64-bit) crashing sporadically when opening unread emails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3728 --- Comment #8 from Gerard Seibert --- (In reply to comment #7) Is it possible to use Visual Studio with CLANG? Or maybe just CLANG? http://llvm.org/docs/GettingStartedVS.html -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Dec 3 15:32:29 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2016 14:32:29 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3738] UI frequently hangs when clicking on a folder or a message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3738 --- Comment #6 from johannes at selfnet.de --- The same applies to sending mails: The mails are eventually send after minutes of "FETCH data" lines in the network log. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From perry at piermont.com Sun Dec 4 20:33:49 2016 From: perry at piermont.com (Perry E. Metzger) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2016 14:33:49 -0500 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3673] Be more friendly instead of "configure: error: 'encrypt'-function not found." In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <20161204143349.5d5a7e6e@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> Hi there! I'm the maintainer for the MacPorts Claws port. I tried upgrading the port today from 3.14.0 to 3.14.1 and this bit me. Any ideas what is going wrong here, and how I might fix it? Perry On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 07:45:21 +0000 noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3673 > > Ricardo Mones changed: > > What |Removed |Added > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Status|NEW |RESOLVED > Resolution|--- |PATCHESWELCOME > > --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones --- > You'll be having a hard time trying to provide such advice in a way > that works in *all* systems where configure can be run. > > Anyway, I'm *not* closing it as WONTFIX, in case somebody feels > brave today ;-) > -- Perry E. Metzger perry at piermont.com From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Dec 5 10:55:14 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2016 09:55:14 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3738] UI frequently hangs when clicking on a folder or a message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3738 --- Comment #7 from johannes at selfnet.de --- LDAP lookups are also blocked by the "FETCH data" thing. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From jerry at seibercom.net Mon Dec 5 14:13:08 2016 From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2016 08:13:08 -0500 Subject: [Users] s/mime on Windows Message-ID: <20161205081254.00001d6d@seibercom.net> I was just wondering if anyone had, had any success getting claws-mail for Windows(64 bit) configured to work with s/mime? I do not seem to be getting anywhere with it. Thanks -- Jerry From obsazeny.cz at volny.cz Mon Dec 5 14:20:51 2016 From: obsazeny.cz at volny.cz (m) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2016 14:20:51 +0100 Subject: [Users] s/mime on Windows In-Reply-To: <20161205081254.00001d6d@seibercom.net> References: <20161205081254.00001d6d@seibercom.net> Message-ID: <31c97e48-af56-5eac-f627-6e62855faf86@volny.cz> Dne 05.12.2016 v 14:13 Jerry napsal(a): > I was just wondering if anyone had, had any success getting claws-mail > for Windows(64 bit) configured to work with s/mime? I do not seem to be > getting anywhere with it. > > Thanks > I think I did some time ago. It took couple of hours and I am not able to reproduce the steps. Aside from Claws you need to have some GnuPG for windows for that and I also think that the certificate might be needed to be install via gnupg, but I do not want to mislead you on this point. Daniel From k_na at programmer.net Mon Dec 5 17:58:08 2016 From: k_na at programmer.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=D6rjan?= Skoglund) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2016 17:58:08 +0100 Subject: [Users] s/mime on Windows In-Reply-To: <20161205081254.00001d6d@seibercom.net> References: <20161205081254.00001d6d@seibercom.net> Message-ID: <20161205175808.00006446@programmer.net> I could not get past the PGP key selection step. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpJloNYEqqo Installed on older version instead. Works fine! Perhaps it's a bug. Experimental version. Try asking for live help in the irc support channel. IRC, channel #claws on webchat.freenode.net /Örjan Den Mon, 5 Dec 2016 08:13:08 -0500 skrev [Users] s/mime on Windows: > I was just wondering if anyone had, had any success getting claws-mail > for Windows(64 bit) configured to work with s/mime? I do not seem to > be getting anywhere with it. > > Thanks > From edodd55 at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 01:07:31 2016 From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 11:07:31 +1100 Subject: [Users] Difficulty sending through Gmail Message-ID: <20161206110731.7cf385c2@billiau.net> I have suddenly had changes in my ability to send mail out using Google SMTP server. Debian Stretch/Sid Claws Mail 3.14.0 Probably commenced after some updates to install "Wine". No change on the Gmail side to my account. I can receive mail from Gmail as usual. No encryption involved. The mail appears in the Queue list on Gmail (web interface) but doesn't get sent. Can somebody advise where I should look? Liz (sending this through an alternate mail server) Log shows [11:01:11] IMAP4> 6924 NOOP [11:01:12] IMAP4< 6924 OK Success [11:01:26] IMAP4> 6925 SELECT "[Gmail]/Queue" [11:01:26] IMAP4< * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen $Forwarded $NotPhishing $Phishing Junk NonJunk) [11:01:26] IMAP4< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen $Forwarded $NotPhishing $Phishing Junk NonJunk \*)] Flags permitted. [11:01:26] IMAP4< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 656286474] UIDs valid. [11:01:26] IMAP4< * 0 EXISTS [11:01:26] IMAP4< * 0 RECENT [11:01:26] IMAP4< * OK [UIDNEXT 2402] Predicted next UID. [11:01:26] IMAP4< * OK [HIGHESTMODSEQ 3935837] [11:01:26] IMAP4< 6925 OK [READ-WRITE] [Gmail]/Queue selected. (Success) [11:01:26] IMAP4- [fetching UIDs...] [11:01:26] IMAP4> 6926 UID FETCH 1:* (UID) [11:01:27] IMAP4< 6926 OK Success [11:01:27] IMAP4> 6927 APPEND "[Gmail]/Queue" (\Seen) {629} [11:01:27] IMAP4< + go ahead [11:01:27] IMAP4> [data - 631 bytes] [11:01:28] IMAP4< * 1 EXISTS [11:01:28] IMAP4< 6927 OK [APPENDUID 656286474 2402] (Success) [11:01:28] IMAP4> 605 NOOP [11:01:28] IMAP4< 605 OK NOOP completed. [11:01:28] IMAP4> 249 NOOP [11:01:28] IMAP4< 249 OK NOOP completed. [11:01:28] IMAP4> 277 NOOP [11:01:28] IMAP4< 277 OK NOOP completed. [11:01:28] IMAP4> 228 NOOP [11:01:28] IMAP4< 228 OK NOOP completed. [11:01:28] IMAP4> 6928 NOOP [11:01:29] IMAP4< 6928 OK Success [11:01:29] IMAP4> 6929 UID STORE 2402 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen) [11:01:30] IMAP4< 6929 OK Success * Account 'Gmail': Connecting to SMTP server: smtp.gmail.com:25... [11:02:12] IMAP4> 6930 NOOP [11:02:13] IMAP4< 6930 OK Success [11:02:28] IMAP4> 606 NOOP [11:02:28] IMAP4< * 241 EXISTS [11:02:28] IMAP4< * 5 RECENT [11:02:28] IMAP4< 606 OK NOOP completed. [11:02:28] IMAP4> 250 NOOP [11:02:28] IMAP4< 250 OK NOOP completed. [11:02:28] IMAP4> 278 NOOP [11:02:29] IMAP4< 278 OK NOOP completed. [11:02:29] IMAP4> 229 NOOP [11:02:29] IMAP4< 229 OK NOOP completed. *** Session timed out. You may be able to recover by increasing the timeout value in Preferences/Other/Miscellaneous. [11:02:30] IMAP4> 6931 UID STORE 2402 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted) [11:02:31] IMAP4< * 1 EXPUNGE [11:02:31] IMAP4< * 0 EXISTS [11:02:31] IMAP4< 6931 OK S [11:02:31] IMAP4< uccess [11:02:31] IMAP4> 6932 EXPUNGE [11:02:32] IMAP4< 6932 OK Success [11:02:32] IMAP4- [fetching UIDs...] [11:02:32] IMAP4> 6933 UID FETCH 1:* (UID) [11:02:32] IMAP4< 6933 OK Success From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Dec 6 08:20:10 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 07:20:10 +0000 Subject: [Users] Difficulty sending through Gmail In-Reply-To: <20161206110731.7cf385c2@billiau.net> References: <20161206110731.7cf385c2@billiau.net> Message-ID: <20161206072010.1c004183@kujata> On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 11:07:31 +1100 Liz wrote: > Probably commenced after some updates to install "Wine". Sounds like coincidence. > *** Session timed out. You may be able to recover by increasing the > timeout value in Preferences/Other/Miscellaneous. Did you try this? with regards Paul From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Dec 6 08:38:44 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 07:38:44 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3673] Be more friendly instead of "configure: error: 'encrypt'-function not found." In-Reply-To: <20161204143349.5d5a7e6e@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> References:

<20161204143349.5d5a7e6e@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> Message-ID: <20161206073844.424cf5ca@kujata> On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 14:33:49 -0500 "Perry E. Metzger" wrote: > I'm the maintainer for the MacPorts Claws port. I tried upgrading > the port today from 3.14.0 to 3.14.1 and this bit me. Any ideas > what is going wrong here, and how I might fix it? Are you saying that building 3.14.0 went fine, but 3.14.1 gave you the error "'encrypt'-function not found"? with regards Paul From andrej at kacian.sk Tue Dec 6 19:19:36 2016 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 19:19:36 +0100 Subject: [Users] Difficulty sending through Gmail In-Reply-To: <20161206072010.1c004183@kujata> References: <20161206110731.7cf385c2@billiau.net> <20161206072010.1c004183@kujata> Message-ID: <20161206191936.2d95abc1@penny> On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 07:20:10 +0000 Paul wrote: > > *** Session timed out. You may be able to recover by increasing the > > timeout value in Preferences/Other/Miscellaneous. > > Did you try this? Perhaps your ISP started blocking TCP port 25 and wants you to use their own mail servers to send e-mail? You could try port 587 instead, or 465 if you enable TLS/SSL. Regards, -- Andrej From perry at piermont.com Tue Dec 6 19:50:16 2016 From: perry at piermont.com (Perry E. Metzger) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 13:50:16 -0500 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3673] Be more friendly instead of "configure: error: 'encrypt'-function not found." In-Reply-To: <20161206073844.424cf5ca@kujata> References:

<20161204143349.5d5a7e6e@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <20161206073844.424cf5ca@kujata> Message-ID: <20161206135016.77e4e7b7@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 07:38:44 +0000 Paul wrote: > On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 14:33:49 -0500 > "Perry E. Metzger" wrote: > > > I'm the maintainer for the MacPorts Claws port. I tried upgrading > > the port today from 3.14.0 to 3.14.1 and this bit me. Any ideas > > what is going wrong here, and how I might fix it? > > Are you saying that building 3.14.0 went fine, but 3.14.1 gave you > the error "'encrypt'-function not found"? Precisely. Perry -- Perry E. Metzger perry at piermont.com From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Dec 7 10:45:48 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 09:45:48 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3673] Be more friendly instead of "configure: error: 'encrypt'-function not found." In-Reply-To: <20161206135016.77e4e7b7@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> References:

<20161204143349.5d5a7e6e@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <20161206073844.424cf5ca@kujata> <20161206135016.77e4e7b7@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> Message-ID: <20161207094548.0aa78644@kujata> Hi Perry, Then it must be this commit: http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=abbf2f8a104fcb5e72226a2edf0ecd1cd5d29b93 Try reverting that. regards Paul From perry at piermont.com Wed Dec 7 22:50:31 2016 From: perry at piermont.com (Perry E. Metzger) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 16:50:31 -0500 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3673] Be more friendly instead of "configure: error: 'encrypt'-function not found." In-Reply-To: <20161207094548.0aa78644@kujata> References:

<20161204143349.5d5a7e6e@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <20161206073844.424cf5ca@kujata> <20161206135016.77e4e7b7@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <20161207094548.0aa78644@kujata> <20161207165031.1fa362a1@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> Message-ID: <20161208085256.4f3e8d01@anthra> Hello Perry, On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 16:50:31 -0500 "Perry E. Metzger" wrote: > On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 09:45:48 +0000 Paul > wrote: > > Hi Perry, > > > > Then it must be this commit: > > > > http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=abbf2f8a104fcb5e72226a2edf0ecd1cd5d29b93 > > > > Try reverting that. > > It still failed. I expected it would, as this is OS X, not FreeBSD, > and that line should only alter things if we're running FreeBSD. > > On a hunch, though, I added |*darwin* to the case statement, and it > got past the encrypt error only to blow up when it claimed that > libetpan isn't present. (It is present, and everything worked fine > under 3.14.0...) > > Ideas here? Is adding "|*darwin*" to the case the right thing? (I > have no idea what this library call it is looking for is even for.) > Ideas on how to fix the libetpan failure? The errors are here. > > ] checking whether to use libetpan... yes > ] checking for libetpan-config... /opt/local/bin/libetpan-config > ] checking libetpan/libetpan.h usability... yes > ] checking libetpan/libetpan.h presence... yes > ] checking for libetpan/libetpan.h... yes > ] checking whether libetpan-config hints compiles and links fine... no > ] *** Claws Mail requires libetpan 0.57 or newer. See http://www.etpan.org/ > ] *** You can use --disable-libetpan if you don't need IMAP4 and/or NNTP support. > ] configure: error: libetpan 0.57 not found I'd be curious to know if 3.14.0 still builds fine on your system! Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Dec 8 10:44:09 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2016 09:44:09 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3738] UI frequently hangs when clicking on a folder or a message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3738 --- Comment #8 from johannes at selfnet.de --- I'm unable to provide you all but the last 500 lines from that log: [10:42:38] IMAP< 82 [10:42:38] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:42:38] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:42:38] IMAP< (UID 83769 FLAGS (\Seen)) [10:42:38] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:42:38] IMAP< )) [10:42:38] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:42:38] IMAP< )) [10:42:38] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:42:38] IMAP< )) [10:42:38] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:42:38] IMAP< )) [10:42:38] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:42:38] IMAP< )) [10:42:38] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:42:38] IMAP< )) [10:42:38] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:42:38] IMAP< )) [10:42:38] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:42:38] IMAP< )) [10:42:38] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:42:38] IMAP< )) [10:42:38] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:42:38] IMAP< )) [10:42:38] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:42:38] IMAP< )) [10:42:38] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:42:38] IMAP< )) [10:42:38] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:42:38] IMAP< )) [10:42:38] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:42:38] IMAP< )) [10:42:38] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:42:38] IMAP< )) [10:42:38] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:42:38] IMAP< )) [10:42:38] IMAP< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [10:42:38] IMAP< )) [10:42:38] IMAP< [FETCH data - 574 bytes] [10:42:38] IMAP< 148 OK Success [10:42:38] IMAP> 149 STATUS "[Gmail]/Important" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) [10:42:39] IMAP< * STATUS "[Gmail]/Important" (MESSAGES 31225 UIDNEXT 61369 UIDVALIDITY 594878751 UNSEEN 1554) [10:42:39] IMAP< 149 OK Success [10:42:39] IMAP> 150 STATUS "[Gmail]/Sent Mail" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) [10:42:39] IMAP< * STATUS "[Gmail]/Sent Mail" (MESSAGES 16908 UIDNEXT 19024 UIDVALIDITY 594878695 UNSEEN 0) [10:42:39] IMAP< 150 OK Success [10:42:39] IMAP> 151 SELECT "[Gmail]/Sent Mail" [10:42:39] IMAP< * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen $Forwarded $Label3 $NotPhishing $Phishing Junk NonJunk) [10:42:39] IMAP< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen $Forwarded $Label3 $NotPhishing $Phishing Junk NonJunk \*)] Flags permitted. 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From pf at pfortin.com Thu Dec 8 16:29:26 2016 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 10:29:26 -0500 Subject: [Users] Random delays... (bis) Message-ID: <20161208102926.17a073bb@pfortin.com> [original post not reflected to me, so starting anew] I've been trying to find a pattern to random delays where CM's mouse cursor just sits and spins for many seconds, up to about a minute; usually when: - switching folders - opening next (or any) other message - deleting/moving messages - etc... Using strace, I see a LOT of empty stat messages for non-existent files. Now, after watching this for a while, these appear to begin immediately following a stat scan of my entire folder structure followed by some folderlist.xml manipulation; then the empty stats: 09:57:29 access("/home/pfortin/.claws-mail/folderlist.xml", W_OK) = 0 09:57:29 open("/home/pfortin/.claws-mail/folderlist.xml.tmp", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC, 0666) = 28 09:57:29 stat("/home/pfortin/.claws-mail/folderlist.xml", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=71872, ...}) = 0 09:57:29 rename("/home/pfortin/.claws-mail/folderlist.xml", "/home/pfortin/.claws-mail/folderlist.xml.bak") = 0 09:57:29 rename("/home/pfortin/.claws-mail/folderlist.xml.tmp", "/home/pfortin/.claws-mail/folderlist.xml") = 0 09:57:29 stat("", 0x7ffc929db2d0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 09:57:30 stat("", 0x7ffc929db2d0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 09:57:31 stat("", 0x7ffc929db2d0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) ... I'm not adding/deleting/changing any folders, so this folder scan seems redundant; but I don't know the code flow... Not sure if this is related to the GUI delays; but it does look suspicious in that these stats are obviously on a one-second timer. My initial post added: "When I hit Send on this message, I get an attachment warning, and these empty stats go to several (2-4) per second..." -- could it be that rather than changing the timer, this is an artifact of several one-second threads? If anyone can point me to the likely code, I can keep digging from there... Thanks, Pierre From silver.bullet at zoho.com Thu Dec 8 16:58:11 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 16:58:11 +0100 Subject: [Users] Random delays... (bis) In-Reply-To: <20161208102926.17a073bb@pfortin.com> References: <20161208102926.17a073bb@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20161208165811.400319e3@utnubu> I can't help you, but I notice two issue since a long time ago, too. 1. Often after selecting a folder (POP accounts), it takes very long before the busy cursor disappears and a message is visible. 2. When closing Claws, it usually takes that long, that openbox ask me to kill the process. It's not required to kill it, because after a while Claws does close. I'm using Evolution, too, with much more mails per folder and account. It doesn't suffer from such a slowness. There is also no other GUI of other software that is as slow as Claws is. At the moment this happens on Ubuntu 16.04 and Arch Linux with claws-mail from git 3.14.1.r19.ge7206c0, but it's not a new issue. Neither for me and at least not for one other user. If it wasn't you, then another subscriber who reported it to this mailing list. I don't care, I just decided not to switch from Evolution, to Claws, because Claws is too slow for my workflow, not only in regards to this bug, but it e.g. has got no usable search features. They are simply to weak. Claws is just useful for me, since it could be compiled for each distro I'm using, so I could share POP account folders on a multi-boot machine, easier than it would be possible for other MUAs. IMAP isn't an option for me. Regards, Ralf From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Dec 8 17:02:20 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 16:02:20 +0000 Subject: [Users] Random delays... (bis) In-Reply-To: <20161208165811.400319e3@utnubu> References: <20161208102926.17a073bb@pfortin.com> <20161208165811.400319e3@utnubu> Message-ID: <20161208160220.238c3a8d@kujata> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 16:58:11 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > has got no usable search features. They are simply to > weak Slight overstatement there, I think :) with regards Paul From subscript at free.fr Thu Dec 8 17:13:22 2016 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 17:13:22 +0100 Subject: [Users] Random delays... (bis) In-Reply-To: <20161208165811.400319e3@utnubu> References: <20161208102926.17a073bb@pfortin.com> <20161208165811.400319e3@utnubu> Message-ID: <20161208171322.31a46352@anthra> Hello Ralf, On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 16:58:11 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I can't help you, but I notice two issue since a long time ago, too. > > 1. Often after selecting a folder (POP accounts), it takes very long > before the busy cursor disappears and a message is visible. > > 2. When closing Claws, it usually takes that long, that openbox ask me > to kill the process. It's not required to kill it, because after a while > Claws does close. > > I'm using Evolution, too, with much more mails per folder and account. > It doesn't suffer from such a slowness. There is also no other GUI of > other software that is as slow as Claws is. At the moment this happens > on Ubuntu 16.04 and Arch Linux with claws-mail from git > 3.14.1.r19.ge7206c0, but it's not a new issue. Neither for me and at > least not for one other user. If it wasn't you, then another subscriber > who reported it to this mailing list. [snip] Just curious about it, what hardware are you running Arch Linux on (CPU/RAM/Swap/Disk speed/VM?) ? What's the approximate number of emails per folder in which you see slowliness? Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From silver.bullet at zoho.com Thu Dec 8 17:15:03 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 17:15:03 +0100 Subject: [Users] Random delays... (bis) In-Reply-To: <20161208160220.238c3a8d@kujata> References: <20161208102926.17a073bb@pfortin.com> <20161208165811.400319e3@utnubu> <20161208160220.238c3a8d@kujata> Message-ID: <20161208171503.3e588e83@utnubu> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 16:02:20 +0000, Paul wrote: >On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 16:58:11 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> has got no usable search features. They are simply to >> weak > >Slight overstatement there, I think :) The context is my work-flow and the amount of mails and searches with search terms I'm used to. In this regards, apart from tablet PC MUAs, Claws is the weakest MUA I ever tested. Evolution is much better, but still not the best. YMMV! You might know the syntax for searches much better, they are perhaps completely different to Internet search engines, while other MUAs work good when using a syntax, that works with Google and similar, too. In regards to speed, there seemingly is just an issue for a minority of users, since there were not much complains. However, I'm one of the users who suffer from a slow performance. You need to take this into account. Regards, Ralf From silver.bullet at zoho.com Thu Dec 8 17:33:09 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 17:33:09 +0100 Subject: [Users] Random delays... (bis) In-Reply-To: <20161208171322.31a46352@anthra> References: <20161208102926.17a073bb@pfortin.com> <20161208165811.400319e3@utnubu> <20161208171322.31a46352@anthra> Message-ID: <20161208173309.309d34a4@utnubu> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 17:13:22 +0100, wwp wrote: >Just curious about it, what hardware are you running Arch Linux on >(CPU/RAM/Swap/Disk speed/VM?) ? >What's the approximate number of emails per folder in which you see >slowliness? The CPU is a 2.1GHz dual-core, but ondemand usually running at 1GHz. Right now [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ uname -rm 4.8.12-2-ARCH x86_64 booted with 'threadirqs', no VM, ext4 FS. The wanted information, but I don't have time for troubleshooting: [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ free total used free shared buff/cache available Mem: 3792432 805444 1293616 7896 1693372 2676780 Swap: 4819424 0 4819424 [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on dev 1.8G 0 1.8G 0% /dev run 1.9G 1.1M 1.9G 1% /run /dev/sda9 55G 40G 13G 77% / tmpfs 1.9G 80K 1.9G 1% /dev/shm tmpfs 1.9G 0 1.9G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup tmpfs 1.9G 8.0K 1.9G 1% /tmp /dev/sdb12 35G 11G 23G 32% /home/music /dev/sda11 38G 23G 13G 65% /mnt/music tmpfs 371M 36K 371M 1% /run/user/1000 [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ hwinfo --cpu 01: None 00.0: 10103 CPU [Created at cpu.457] Unique ID: rdCR.j8NaKXDZtZ6 Hardware Class: cpu Arch: X86-64 Vendor: "AuthenticAMD" Model: 15.107.2 "AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual Core Processor BE-2350" Features: fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,clflush,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ht,syscall,nx,mmxext,fxsr_opt,rdtscp,lm,3dnowext,3dnow,rep_good,nopl,extd_apicid,eagerfpu,pni,cx16,lahf_lm,cmp_legacy,svm,extapic,cr8_legacy,3dnowprefetch,vmmcall,lbrv Clock: 1000 MHz BogoMips: 2000.22 Cache: 512 kb Units/Processor: 2 Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown 02: None 01.0: 10103 CPU [Created at cpu.457] Unique ID: wkFv.j8NaKXDZtZ6 Hardware Class: cpu Arch: X86-64 Vendor: "AuthenticAMD" Model: 15.107.2 "AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual Core Processor BE-2350" Features: fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,clflush,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ht,syscall,nx,mmxext,fxsr_opt,rdtscp,lm,3dnowext,3dnow,rep_good,nopl,extd_apicid,eagerfpu,pni,cx16,lahf_lm,cmp_legacy,svm,extapic,cr8_legacy,3dnowprefetch,vmmcall,lbrv Clock: 1000 MHz BogoMips: 2000.22 Cache: 512 kb Units/Processor: 2 Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor ondemand ondemand Folders total: 29403, 12582, 8119 and several others with less than 8000 mails. Evolution folders contain more than 84900, 42000 etc. No DE, just the WM openbox. No resource hungry apps are running. Regards, Ralf From silver.bullet at zoho.com Thu Dec 8 17:37:28 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 17:37:28 +0100 Subject: [Users] Random delays... (bis) In-Reply-To: <20161208173309.309d34a4@utnubu> References: <20161208102926.17a073bb@pfortin.com> <20161208165811.400319e3@utnubu> <20161208171322.31a46352@anthra> <20161208173309.309d34a4@utnubu> Message-ID: <20161208173728.1c903978@utnubu> PS: [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda smartctl 6.5 2016-05-07 r4318 [x86_64-linux-4.8.12-2-ARCH] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-16, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: SAMSUNG SpinPoint T166 Device Model: SAMSUNG HD321KJ Serial Number: S0MQJ9AQ308387 LU WWN Device Id: 5 0000f0 09b308387 Firmware Version: CP100-12 User Capacity: 320,072,933,376 bytes [320 GB] Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 3b SATA Version is: SATA 2.5, 3.0 Gb/s Local Time is: Thu Dec 8 17:35:04 2016 CET SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x00) Offline data collection activity was never started. Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: ( 5694) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. No Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 96) minutes. SCT capabilities: (0x003f) SCT Status supported. SCT Error Recovery Control supported. SCT Feature Control supported. SCT Data Table supported. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 1 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 100 100 015 Pre-fail Always - 5952 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 093 093 000 Old_age Always - 7745 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 253 253 010 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 253 253 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0025 253 253 015 Pre-fail Offline - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 43800 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0033 253 253 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0012 253 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 096 096 000 Old_age Always - 4114 13 Read_Soft_Error_Rate 0x000e 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 7449223 187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 065 055 000 Old_age Always - 35 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 130 103 000 Old_age Always - 36 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 7449223 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 197 Total_Pending_Sectors 0x0012 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 253 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x000a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 201 Soft_Read_Error_Rate 0x000a 253 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 202 Data_Address_Mark_Errs 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 3 SMART Error Log Version: 1 No Errors Logged SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Extended offline Completed without error 00% 12936 - # 2 Extended offline Completed without error 00% 7470 - # 3 Abort offline test Aborted by host 90% 7470 - SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 0 Note: revision number not 1 implies that no selective self-test has ever been run SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS 1 0 0 Not_testing 2 0 0 Not_testing 3 0 0 Not_testing 4 0 0 Not_testing 5 0 0 Not_testing Selective self-test flags (0x0): After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay. From silver.bullet at zoho.com Thu Dec 8 17:42:01 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 17:42:01 +0100 Subject: [Users] Random delays... (bis) In-Reply-To: <20161208173728.1c903978@utnubu> References: <20161208102926.17a073bb@pfortin.com> <20161208165811.400319e3@utnubu> <20161208171322.31a46352@anthra> <20161208173309.309d34a4@utnubu> <20161208173728.1c903978@utnubu> Message-ID: <20161208174201.643efcf7@utnubu> PPS: Arch Linux: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/claws-mail-git/ Ubuntu, the same build options as used by the Arch PKGBUILD: [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ cat /mnt/moonstudio/usr/src/claws.configure git clone git://git.claws-mail.org/claws.git cd claws/ #git checkout eb08800 git pull --all make clean ./autogen.sh --build=$(uname -m)-arch-linux-gnu \ ./configure --build=$(uname -m)-ubuntu-linux-gnu --disable-maintainer-mode --prefix=/usr --disable-static --enable-silent-rules --disable-jpilot --enable-enchant --enable-gnutls --enable-ldap --enable-crash-dialog --enable-pgpmime-plugin --enable-spamassassin-plugin --enable-bogofilter-plugin cat version make sudo checkinstall ---- 0 - Maintainer: [ Weremouse ] 1 - Summary: [ A GTK+ based e-mail client - git checkout ] 2 - Name: [ claws-mail-git ] 3 - Version: [ 3.14.1-19-ge7206c ] 4 - Release: [ dirty ] 5 - License: [ GPL3 ] 6 - Group: [ checkinstall ] 7 - Architecture: [ amd64 ] 8 - Source location: [ claws ] 9 - Alternate source location: [ ] 10 - Requires: [ ] 11 - Provides: [ claws-mail ] 12 - Conflicts: [ ] 13 - Replaces: [ ] From pf at pfortin.com Thu Dec 8 17:44:59 2016 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 11:44:59 -0500 Subject: [Users] Random delays... (bis) In-Reply-To: <20161208171322.31a46352@anthra> References: <20161208102926.17a073bb@pfortin.com> <20161208165811.400319e3@utnubu> <20161208171322.31a46352@anthra> Message-ID: <20161208114459.2dd8f00d@pfortin.com> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 17:13:22 +0100 wwp wrote: >Just curious about it, what hardware are you running Arch Linux on >(CPU/RAM/Swap/Disk speed/VM?) ? >What's the approximate number of emails per folder in which you see >slowliness? In my case: Linux MGA5 with all updates on: Dell M6800 -- definitely not a slouch... Intel Core i7-4710MQ (4 core/8 thread) at 2.5GHz 32GB RAM (rarely if ever swaps -- using ~18GB at moment) HD: ST1000LM014-1EJ1 unspecified speed due to technology[1] (data sheet: http://www.seagate.com/www-content/datasheets/pdfs/laptop-sshd-dsDS1814-3-1602US-en_US.pdf) Folders with only a handful of messages have been much slower than some with 10000+ messages. [1] from Seagate web site: 8GB and 32GB NAND Flash technology performs up to 4× and 5× times faster, respectively, on application load times when compared to standard 7200-RPM HDDs Should be fast enough... :) Pierre From silver.bullet at zoho.com Thu Dec 8 18:07:36 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 18:07:36 +0100 Subject: [Users] Random delays... (bis) In-Reply-To: <20161208114459.2dd8f00d@pfortin.com> References: <20161208102926.17a073bb@pfortin.com> <20161208165811.400319e3@utnubu> <20161208171322.31a46352@anthra> <20161208114459.2dd8f00d@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20161208180736.2d7c1183@utnubu> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 11:44:59 -0500, Pierre Fortin wrote: >Should be fast enough... :) Even my machine should be fast enough, too. FWIW the FS is mounted with relatime. I didn't use a stopwatch, but it often takes around 5 seconds to switch from one to another folder. This doesn't sound very long, but run $ printf "\a"; sleep 5; printf "\a" to become aware, that it is much too long. From subscript at free.fr Thu Dec 8 18:32:16 2016 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 18:32:16 +0100 Subject: [Users] Random delays... (bis) In-Reply-To: <20161208180736.2d7c1183@utnubu> References: <20161208102926.17a073bb@pfortin.com> <20161208165811.400319e3@utnubu> <20161208171322.31a46352@anthra> <20161208114459.2dd8f00d@pfortin.com> <20161208180736.2d7c1183@utnubu> Message-ID: <20161208183216.71ae33c5@anthra> Hello Ralf, Pierre, On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 18:07:36 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 11:44:59 -0500, Pierre Fortin wrote: > >Should be fast enough... :) > > Even my machine should be fast enough, too. FWIW the FS is mounted with > relatime. I didn't use a stopwatch, but it often takes around 5 seconds > to switch from one to another folder. This doesn't sound very long, but > run Strange, on both of you and Pierre's sides, system specs show powerful machines. Here my config is way less powerful and entering a 40K-message folder takes 5-8sec, a 20K-message 2.5-4sec, a 10K-message 1.5-3.5sec (see how it seems to be proportional and consistent). Note that in nearly all my folders (including the ones I mentionned), I have few processing rules that applies when entering. $ claws-mail --status-full|tail -1 21 11047 814001 specs: Dell Latitude E6530 laptop running CentOS6 (kernel-2.6.32-642.11.1.el6.centos.plus), Intel Core i5-3320M CPU @2.60GHz, nearly full ext4fs on 5K-rpm disk. Lots of running apps including 2 huges Firefox instances, VMWare WS, etc. Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Dec 8 18:50:35 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2016 17:50:35 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3738] UI frequently hangs when clicking on a folder or a message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3738 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|Other |Folders/IMAP -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Dec 8 18:54:57 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2016 17:54:57 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3716] Segmentation fault when trying to remove MH. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3716 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|Folders |Folders/MH -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From pf at pfortin.com Thu Dec 8 18:55:56 2016 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 12:55:56 -0500 Subject: [Users] Random delays... (bis) In-Reply-To: <20161208183216.71ae33c5@anthra> References: <20161208102926.17a073bb@pfortin.com> <20161208165811.400319e3@utnubu> <20161208171322.31a46352@anthra> <20161208114459.2dd8f00d@pfortin.com> <20161208180736.2d7c1183@utnubu> <20161208183216.71ae33c5@anthra> Message-ID: <20161208125556.6bb0141b@pfortin.com> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 18:32:16 +0100 wwp wrote: >$ claws-mail --status-full|tail -1 > 21 11047 814001 I run 2 instances of CM: 0 1 52688 1 300 55444 From mir at miras.org Thu Dec 8 19:02:23 2016 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 19:02:23 +0100 Subject: [Users] Random delays... (bis) In-Reply-To: <20161208125556.6bb0141b@pfortin.com> References: <20161208102926.17a073bb@pfortin.com> <20161208165811.400319e3@utnubu> <20161208171322.31a46352@anthra> <20161208114459.2dd8f00d@pfortin.com> <20161208180736.2d7c1183@utnubu> <20161208183216.71ae33c5@anthra> <20161208125556.6bb0141b@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20161208190223.479adf77@sleipner.datanom.net> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 12:55:56 -0500 Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 18:32:16 +0100 wwp wrote: > > >$ claws-mail --status-full|tail -1 > > 21 11047 814001 > > I run 2 instances of CM: I assume --alternate-config-dir is use for one of these instances and not pointing the same place? -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: Changing husbands/wives is only changing troubles. -- Kathleen Norris -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 195 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From mir at miras.org Thu Dec 8 19:05:06 2016 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 19:05:06 +0100 Subject: [Users] Random delays... (bis) In-Reply-To: <20161208102926.17a073bb@pfortin.com> References: <20161208102926.17a073bb@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20161208190506.77b1876d@sleipner.datanom.net> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 10:29:26 -0500 Pierre Fortin wrote: > > If anyone can point me to the likely code, I can keep digging from > there... > Does any of you use the libravatar plugin or some similar plugin which requires some form of external resources? -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: Changing husbands/wives is only changing troubles. -- Kathleen Norris -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 195 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From pf at pfortin.com Thu Dec 8 19:07:49 2016 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 13:07:49 -0500 Subject: [Users] Random delays... (bis) In-Reply-To: <20161208190223.479adf77@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20161208102926.17a073bb@pfortin.com> <20161208165811.400319e3@utnubu> <20161208171322.31a46352@anthra> <20161208114459.2dd8f00d@pfortin.com> <20161208180736.2d7c1183@utnubu> <20161208183216.71ae33c5@anthra> <20161208125556.6bb0141b@pfortin.com> <20161208190223.479adf77@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20161208130749.2649e8e9@pfortin.com> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 19:02:23 +0100 Michael Rasmussen wrote: >> I run 2 instances of CM: >I assume --alternate-config-dir is use for one of these instances and >not pointing the same place? Nope... no need. I use two separate userids on this machine. From pf at pfortin.com Thu Dec 8 19:09:17 2016 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 13:09:17 -0500 Subject: [Users] Random delays... (bis) In-Reply-To: <20161208190506.77b1876d@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20161208102926.17a073bb@pfortin.com> <20161208190506.77b1876d@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20161208130917.355b0def@pfortin.com> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 19:05:06 +0100 Michael Rasmussen wrote: >Does any of you use the libravatar plugin or some similar plugin which >requires some form of external resources? Yup. Suspected that too; but still saw delays after unloading it and restarting CM to be sure... From linux at slavino.sk Thu Dec 8 19:25:19 2016 From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 19:25:19 +0100 Subject: [Users] Random delays... (bis) In-Reply-To: <20161208183216.71ae33c5@anthra> References: <20161208102926.17a073bb@pfortin.com> <20161208165811.400319e3@utnubu> <20161208171322.31a46352@anthra> <20161208114459.2dd8f00d@pfortin.com> <20161208180736.2d7c1183@utnubu> <20161208183216.71ae33c5@anthra> Message-ID: <20161208192519.64e445a9@bonifac.skk> Ahoj, Dňa Thu, 8 Dec 2016 18:32:16 +0100 wwp napísal: > Strange, on both of you and Pierre's sides, system specs show powerful > machines. Here my config is way less powerful and entering a > 40K-message folder takes 5-8sec, a 20K-message 2.5-4sec, a > 10K-message 1.5-3.5sec (see how it seems to be proportional and > consistent). I see the ext4 in some from their reports. My experiences are, that the ext4 can be noticeable slow in some cases, i use rieserfs due this for all my HDDs, and ext4 only for SSDs, because reiserfs has not trim option. I have max 3k messages in folders, then i cannot compare for this case, but i see some delay if i have some processing enabled for these dirs. regards -- Slavko http://slavino.sk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 455 bytes Desc: Digitálny podpis OpenPGP URL: From silver.bullet at zoho.com Thu Dec 8 19:34:07 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 19:34:07 +0100 Subject: [Users] Random delays... (bis) In-Reply-To: <20161208190506.77b1876d@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20161208102926.17a073bb@pfortin.com> <20161208190506.77b1876d@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20161208193407.4c2f0969@utnubu> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 19:05:06 +0100, Michael Rasmussen wrote: >Does any of you use the libravatar plugin or some similar plugin which >requires some form of external resources? Address keeper and Bogofilter are the only used plugins. No folder processing is used. The boot option ’threadirqs’ is required for real-time audio priorities [1]. This could have impact to GUI performance, but actually no audio is running, no other GUI suffers from performance issues, so it shouldn't matter for Claws at the moment. [1] [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ grep -v "#" /etc/security/limits.conf | grep audio @audio - rtprio 99 @audio - memlock unlimited [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ rtirq status | head PID CLS RTPRIO NI PRI %CPU STAT COMMAND 266 FF 90 - 130 0.0 S irq/18-snd_hdsp 32 FF 50 - 90 0.0 S irq/9-acpi 48 FF 50 - 90 0.0 S irq/8-rtc0 74 FF 50 - 90 0.0 S irq/26-radeon 113 FF 50 - 90 0.0 S irq/1-i8042 115 FF 50 - 90 0.0 S irq/22-ahci[000 134 FF 50 - 90 0.0 S irq/14-pata_ati 135 FF 50 - 90 0.0 S irq/15-pata_ati From silver.bullet at zoho.com Thu Dec 8 20:05:27 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 20:05:27 +0100 Subject: [Users] Random delays... (bis) In-Reply-To: <20161208192519.64e445a9@bonifac.skk> References: <20161208102926.17a073bb@pfortin.com> <20161208165811.400319e3@utnubu> <20161208171322.31a46352@anthra> <20161208114459.2dd8f00d@pfortin.com> <20161208180736.2d7c1183@utnubu> <20161208183216.71ae33c5@anthra> <20161208192519.64e445a9@bonifac.skk> Message-ID: <20161208200527.62fa4f5f@utnubu> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 19:25:19 +0100, Slavko wrote: >Ahoj, > >Dňa Thu, 8 Dec 2016 18:32:16 +0100 wwp napísal: > >> Strange, on both of you and Pierre's sides, system specs show >> powerful machines. Here my config is way less powerful and entering a >> 40K-message folder takes 5-8sec, a 20K-message 2.5-4sec, a >> 10K-message 1.5-3.5sec (see how it seems to be proportional and >> consistent). > >I see the ext4 in some from their reports. My experiences are, that the >ext4 can be noticeable slow in some cases, i use rieserfs due this for >all my HDDs, and ext4 only for SSDs, because reiserfs has not trim >option. > >I have max 3k messages in folders, then i cannot compare for this case, >but i see some delay if i have some processing enabled for these dirs. I can hear my HDD working, during the delay. At least Suse made rieserfs the default for Suse 9.0 in 2003, perhaps earlier, but this was my first Linux. However, at the same time when Mr. Rieser's wife was missing, in 2006, Suse migrated to ext3, related to performance issues caused by rieserfs. From johnxj at comcast.net Fri Dec 9 00:04:37 2016 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 15:04:37 -0800 Subject: [Users] Not downloading from Gmail Message-ID: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo> I have Claws Mail 3.11.1 (from the repositories) on Xubuntu 14.04, up to date. I have set up three accounts, a POP3 for my comcast.net e-mail account, an IMAP for my university e-mail account (which uses Gmail), and another POP3 for a regular Gmail account. When I click on Get Mail Claws places all the mail into my Inbox from the Comcast and university accounts, but never picks up anything from the regular POP3 Gmail account. I have been using this setup for years and it always worked perfectly before, but lately I started noticing that I was not getting the mail for the POP3 Gmail account. Just now I logged in to this account with Firefox and was stunned to see 384 e-mails in the imbox. This account only gets half a dozen e-mails a day, so apparently the problem has been going on for some time. I looked through the configuration for this account and couldn't see anything wrong. But when I looked at the log I found this: [14:25:24] POP3> USER johnjasonj [14:25:24] POP3< +OK send PASS [14:25:24] POP3> PASS ******** [14:25:24] POP3< -ERR [AUTH] Web login required: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754 *** error occurred on authentication *** Authentication failed. Apparently this is where the problem lies, but I can't figure out from the above how to fix it. Can someone give me some clues? From lists-claws at listmail.innovate.net Fri Dec 9 00:11:49 2016 From: lists-claws at listmail.innovate.net (Richard) Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2016 23:11:49 +0000 Subject: [Users] Not downloading from Gmail In-Reply-To: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo> References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo> Message-ID: > Date: Thursday, December 08, 2016 15:04:37 -0800 > From: John Jason Jordan > > I have Claws Mail 3.11.1 (from the repositories) on Xubuntu 14.04, > up to date. > > I have set up three accounts, a POP3 for my comcast.net e-mail > account, an IMAP for my university e-mail account (which uses > Gmail), and another POP3 for a regular Gmail account. When I click > on Get Mail Claws places all the mail into my Inbox from the > Comcast and university accounts, but never picks up anything from > the regular POP3 Gmail account. > > I have been using this setup for years and it always worked > perfectly before, but lately I started noticing that I was not > getting the mail for the POP3 Gmail account. Just now I logged in > to this account with Firefox and was stunned to see 384 e-mails in > the imbox. This account only gets half a dozen e-mails a day, so > apparently the problem has been going on for some time. > > I looked through the configuration for this account and couldn't see > anything wrong. But when I looked at the log I found this: > > [14:25:24] POP3> USER johnjasonj > [14:25:24] POP3< +OK send PASS > [14:25:24] POP3> PASS ******** > [14:25:24] POP3< -ERR [AUTH] Web login required: > https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754 *** error occurred on > authentication *** Authentication failed. > > Apparently this is where the problem lies, but I can't figure out > from the above how to fix it. Can someone give me some clues? Did you happen to "recently" change your google account to 2-factor authentication? From johnxj at comcast.net Fri Dec 9 00:21:05 2016 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 15:21:05 -0800 Subject: [Users] Not downloading from Gmail In-Reply-To: References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo> Message-ID: <20161208152105.13f28b01@Devil-Bonobo> On Thu, 08 Dec 2016 23:11:49 +0000 Richard dijo: >> [14:25:24] POP3> USER johnjasonj >> [14:25:24] POP3< +OK send PASS >> [14:25:24] POP3> PASS ******** >> [14:25:24] POP3< -ERR [AUTH] Web login required: >> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754 *** error occurred on >> authentication *** Authentication failed. >> >> Apparently this is where the problem lies, but I can't figure out >> from the above how to fix it. Can someone give me some clues? > >Did you happen to "recently" change your google account to 2-factor >authentication? Not that I know of. But then, I don't know what 2-factor authentication is, so maybe I did without being aware of it. I'll ask Google to explain it to me. From pf at pfortin.com Fri Dec 9 00:30:32 2016 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 18:30:32 -0500 Subject: [Users] Random delays... (bis) In-Reply-To: <20161208190506.77b1876d@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20161208102926.17a073bb@pfortin.com> <20161208190506.77b1876d@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20161208183032.59e164f3@pfortin.com> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 19:05:06 +0100 Michael Rasmussen wrote: >> If anyone can point me to the likely code, I can keep digging from >> there... >> >Does any of you use the libravatar plugin or some similar plugin which >requires some form of external resources? This is actually a great question. I still can't point to a specific action(s) that directly results a delay; but I did find and correct some issues that appear to have slightly reduced the number of delays... So I now suspect that there may be several issues triggering delays; hence the randomness. 1. Many months ago, I was working on setting up a local PostFix (never completed); but I left the test accounts active in CM -- they resulted in dry polls to a non-existent server. Disabling these test accounts appears to have helped a tiny bit. However, there is no theorem to prove randomness or its lack thereof. 2. One account was working fine a few days ago; but noticed in debug that it was now complaining of authentication failures. Re-entered the same password to fix that. Almost no traffic on this account, so I don't see any difference in the delays with this correction. 3. Opening a really old folder (no new messages since 2008), one message (under 5KB) took ~24 seconds to process. libravatar was still loaded on that CM instance; but I'm not sure when the reported timers started. Here's the debug output for that one: libravatar_federation.c:49:cached avatar url for domain newegg.com not found libravatar_federation.c:127:libravatar federated domain for newegg.com not found libravatar_federation.c:68:new cached avatar url for domain newegg.com: x libravatar_image.c:152:waiting for thread completion libravatar_image.c:106:retrieving URL to file: http://cdn.libravatar.org/avatar/c60f759948c4a43f7f395d3bad5fa971?s=48 -> /home/pierre/.claws-mail/avatarcache/c60f759948c4a43f7f395d3bad5fa971 libravatar_image.c:111:not enough data for an avatar image: 0 bytes libravatar_missing.c:150:New md5 c60f759948c4a43f7f395d3bad5fa971 added with time 1481227379 libravatar_image.c:159:thread completed textview.c:712:TIMING textview_add_part : 23s854ms textview.c:1187:Viewing text content of type: plain (length: 1782) textview.c:828:TIMING textview_add_part : 0s016ms textview.c:845:TIMING recursive_add_parts : 0s016ms textview.c:891:TIMING recursive_add_parts : 23s871ms textview.c:651:TIMING textview_show_part : 23s871ms summaryview.c:3670:TIMING summary_display_msg_full : 23s876ms summaryview.c:1571: ### source: debug_print("\n"); summaryview.c:1576:called inc_unlock (lock count 0) summaryview.c:1577:TIMING summary_show : 23s898ms folder.c:2576:Total cache memory usage: 3778315 folderview.c:2308:TIMING folderview_selected : 23s970ms In case it helps, the old message from 2008 is attached. However, now that I've visited this long unused folder, there is no delay accessing it or its messages. Comparing the .claws_cache & .claws_mark to my backup; there is no change to those; but the empty file .mh_sequences was touched. Unloaded & re-loaded libravatar and still no repeat delays entering this folder. Did I mention random? :D Determined to track this(these?) delay(s) down... :) HTH, Pierre -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 26 Type: application/octet-stream Size: 4685 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mir at miras.org Fri Dec 9 00:55:08 2016 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2016 00:55:08 +0100 Subject: [Users] Random delays... (bis) In-Reply-To: <20161208183032.59e164f3@pfortin.com> References: <20161208102926.17a073bb@pfortin.com> <20161208190506.77b1876d@sleipner.datanom.net> <20161208183032.59e164f3@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20161209005508.79ef0c38@sleipner.datanom.net> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 18:30:32 -0500 Pierre Fortin wrote: > > Determined to track this(these?) delay(s) down... :) > What is your configured timeout for libravatar? I think the default is the global socket timeout which again has a default of 60 sec (if I remember correct). My settings is: socket timeout: 20 sec. libravatar timeout: 5 sec. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: Small things make base men proud. -- William Shakespeare, "Henry VI" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 195 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From johnxj at comcast.net Fri Dec 9 01:25:24 2016 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 16:25:24 -0800 Subject: [Users] Not downloading from Gmail In-Reply-To: <20161208152105.13f28b01@Devil-Bonobo> References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo> <20161208152105.13f28b01@Devil-Bonobo> Message-ID: <20161208162524.2e0bf6be@Devil-Bonobo> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 15:21:05 -0800 John Jason Jordan dijo: >>Did you happen to "recently" change your google account to 2-factor >>authentication? >Not that I know of. But then, I don't know what 2-factor authentication >is, so maybe I did without being aware of it. I'll ask Google to >explain it to me. OK, I finally figured out 2-factor authentication, and it was off. So I guess that's not where the problem lies. From pf at pfortin.com Fri Dec 9 01:47:34 2016 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 19:47:34 -0500 Subject: [Users] Random delays... (bis) In-Reply-To: <20161209005508.79ef0c38@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20161208102926.17a073bb@pfortin.com> <20161208190506.77b1876d@sleipner.datanom.net> <20161208183032.59e164f3@pfortin.com> <20161209005508.79ef0c38@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20161208194734.7303b6f3@pfortin.com> On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 00:55:08 +0100 Michael Rasmussen wrote: >What is your configured timeout for libravatar? I think the default is >the global socket timeout which again has a default of 60 sec (if I >remember correct). > >My settings is: >socket timeout: 20 sec. >libravatar timeout: 5 sec. Where do I find those? All I see are: $ grep timeout clawsrc io_timeout_secs=15 hover_timeout=500 store_passphrase_timeout=0 popup_timeout=5000 command_timeout=60000 trayicon_popup_timeout=5000 timeout=30 which should all still be defaults. From pf at pfortin.com Fri Dec 9 01:59:02 2016 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 19:59:02 -0500 Subject: [Users] Not downloading from Gmail In-Reply-To: References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo> Message-ID: <20161208195902.60c008a3@pfortin.com> On Thu, 08 Dec 2016 23:11:49 +0000 Richard wrote: >> [14:25:24] POP3< -ERR [AUTH] Web login required: Is POP enabled? See gmail's Settings -> Forwarding and POP/IMAP From johnxj at comcast.net Fri Dec 9 02:26:57 2016 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 17:26:57 -0800 Subject: [Users] Not downloading from Gmail In-Reply-To: <20161208195902.60c008a3@pfortin.com> References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo> <20161208195902.60c008a3@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20161208172657.5d7eaa3e@Devil-Bonobo> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 19:59:02 -0500 Pierre Fortin dijo: >On Thu, 08 Dec 2016 23:11:49 +0000 Richard wrote: > >>> [14:25:24] POP3< -ERR [AUTH] Web login required: > >Is POP enabled? See gmail's Settings -> Forwarding and POP/IMAP Yes it is enabled. From the Settings menu in Firefox: 1. Status: POP is enabled for all mail o Enable POP for all mail (even mail that's already been downloaded) o Enable POP for mail that arrives from now on o Disable POP 2. When messages are accessed with POP [Delete Gmail's copy] 3. Configure your email client (e.g. Outlook, Eudora, Netscape Mail) I read through the configuration instructions link above and Claws Mail seems to be set up exactly as Gmail wants it to be. Also, using Firefox I looked through the hundreds of e-mails in my Gmail Inbox and the oldest one is from July 6, 2016. In other words, apparently that is when Claws Mail stopped downloading from Gmail. I mention that as a clue in case something happened in Claws Mail or in Gmail on or about that date. I'm grasping for any clue I can find. From pf at pfortin.com Fri Dec 9 03:36:55 2016 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 21:36:55 -0500 Subject: [Users] Not downloading from Gmail In-Reply-To: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo> References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo> Message-ID: <20161208213655.684898c6@pfortin.com> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 15:04:37 -0800 John Jason Jordan wrote: >[14:25:24] POP3< -ERR [AUTH] Web login required: >https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754 *** error occurred on >authentication *** Authentication failed. Did you follow that link? There's a link therein "to allow less secure apps to access your account" https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255 -- check its Option 2. From johnxj at comcast.net Fri Dec 9 04:16:10 2016 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 19:16:10 -0800 Subject: [Users] Not downloading from Gmail In-Reply-To: <20161208213655.684898c6@pfortin.com> References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo> <20161208213655.684898c6@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20161208191610.55f3f483@Devil-Bonobo> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 21:36:55 -0500 Pierre Fortin dijo: >On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 15:04:37 -0800 John Jason Jordan wrote: > >>[14:25:24] POP3< -ERR [AUTH] Web login required: >>https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754 *** error occurred on >>authentication *** Authentication failed. > >Did you follow that link? There's a link therein "to allow less secure >apps to access your account" >https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255 -- check its Option Of course, that was the first thing I tried before my first post here. That is, I assume you mean these troubleshooting suggestions: "Step 2: Try these troubleshooting steps Update your email client to the latest version. Use an App Password: If you use 2-Step Verification, try signing in with an App Password. Allow less secure apps: If you don't use 2-Step Verification, you might need to allow less secure apps to access your account. If you recently changed your Gmail password, you might need to re-enter your Gmail account information or completely repeat your Gmail account setup on your other email client. If the tips above didn't help, visit https://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha and follow the steps on the page. If you use Gmail through your work, school, or other organization, visit https://www.google.com/a/yourdoma" 1) I wasn't using 2-step verification, but I did turn it on to see if it would help. It made no difference. 2) I turned on 'allow less secure apps,' but it made no difference. 3) I changed my password on Google and then in Claws Mail, but it made no difference. 4) I created a brand new account in Claws Mail, but the new account cannot connect either. 5) I went to the 'unlock captcha' web page and enabled it, then immediately tried to connect. This time I got a slightly different error message: * Account 'Gmail': Connecting to POP3 server: pop.gmail.com:995... ** Connection closed by the remote host. And trying it again half an hour later I get the same error message. I take it this means that the 'unlock captcha' web page had some effect. Unfortunately there must be something else that is still wrong. Any more ideas? From pf at pfortin.com Fri Dec 9 04:51:02 2016 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 22:51:02 -0500 Subject: [Users] Not downloading from Gmail In-Reply-To: <20161208191610.55f3f483@Devil-Bonobo> References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo> <20161208213655.684898c6@pfortin.com> <20161208191610.55f3f483@Devil-Bonobo> Message-ID: <20161208225102.319c870f@pfortin.com> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 19:16:10 -0800 John Jason Jordan wrote: >Any more ideas? I'm on 3.14.1; there have been significant changes since 3.11.1 You might check the list archives to see how to get your system up to date, or wait for someone to help with that. Keep googling... I recall seeing something about "Account A blocking Account B" but didn't read it. I have several gmail accounts (all POP) and have never had this problem. I would double check all the basics: server: pop.gmail.com port 995 secure authentication (APOP) = off use SSL/TLS userid/password etc Typos happen[1]; check them one character at a time... Not sure if the bottom of the attached screen shot looks like this in 3.11.1 [1] the simplest, dumbest mistakes are usually the most difficult to track down. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: CMgmail1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 73943 bytes Desc: not available URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 9 09:42:43 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2016 08:42:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] Not downloading from Gmail In-Reply-To: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo> References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo> Message-ID: <20161209084243.7b6ec6cd@kujata> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 15:04:37 -0800 John Jason Jordan wrote: > Just now I logged in to this account with > Firefox and was stunned to see 384 e-mails in the imbox. There's always a potential risk if you turn off the error dialogue. /Configuration/Preferences/Mail Handling/Receiving - "Don't popup error dialog on receive error". with regards Paul From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 9 09:46:10 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2016 08:46:10 +0000 Subject: [Users] Not downloading from Gmail In-Reply-To: <20161208191610.55f3f483@Devil-Bonobo> References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo> <20161208213655.684898c6@pfortin.com> <20161208191610.55f3f483@Devil-Bonobo> Message-ID: <20161209084610.4223be07@kujata> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 19:16:10 -0800 John Jason Jordan wrote: > 2) I turned on 'allow less secure apps,' but it made no difference. You definitely need that google option turned on. In google's world 'less secure' is a misnomer for apps that don't support OAuth 2.0, and Claws does not use OAuth. with regards Paul From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 9 13:53:06 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2016 12:53:06 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3743] New: Tags are not saved Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3743 Bug ID: 3743 Summary: Tags are not saved Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.14.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: major Priority: P3 Component: Folders Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: jecagi at yahoo.es I assign one or more tags to one or more messages. Then I go to a different folder and come back to the former. The tags I just assigned are gone. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 9 14:04:13 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2016 13:04:13 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3744] New: Crash upon deleting tags Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3744 Bug ID: 3744 Summary: Crash upon deleting tags Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.14.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Message List Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: mschwendt at fedoraproject.org Steps to reproduce: 1. Right-click a message -> "Apply tags", "Add" some new tag to a message 2. Immediately click "Delete" to delete the tag again 3. Tags stays in the list 4. Try to "Delete" the tag once more -> Crash The only way to avoid the crash is to "Close" the dialog after deletion, and then reopening it, the tag is gone. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 9 14:23:44 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2016 13:23:44 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3743] Tags are not saved In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3743 --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones --- It works fine here. Is that an IMAP account or a local one? If that's an IMAP account open network log (Tools/Network Log) and see which messages the server is returning when you apply the tags. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 9 14:28:58 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2016 13:28:58 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3744] Crash upon deleting tags In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3744 --- Comment #1 from Paul --- I see your 3rd point - Tags stay in the list when deleted, but I don't get the crash. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 9 14:53:13 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2016 13:53:13 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3744] Crash upon deleting tags In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3744 --- Comment #2 from Michael Schwendt --- Created attachment 1704 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1704&action=edit full backtrace Automatically created by ABRT on Fedora 25 x86_64 with Claws Mail 3.14.1 from updates-testing. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 9 14:56:09 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2016 13:56:09 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3744] Crash upon deleting tags In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3744 --- Comment #3 from Michael Schwendt --- Seems to be in libetpan, right? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 9 14:58:13 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2016 13:58:13 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3744] Crash upon deleting tags In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3744 --- Comment #4 from Michael Schwendt --- NULL ptr passed to strlen. 230 int mailimap_token_send(mailstream * fd, const char * atom) 231 { 232 return mailimap_sized_token_send(fd, atom, strlen(atom)); 233 } -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 9 15:02:21 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2016 14:02:21 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3744] Crash upon deleting tags In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3744 --- Comment #5 from Paul --- That would make sense as I don't use IMAP. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 9 15:07:35 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2016 14:07:35 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3744] Crash upon deleting tags In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3744 --- Comment #6 from Michael Schwendt --- Oh, and libetpan is still at 1.6 here, not 1.7.2 yet. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From johnxj at comcast.net Fri Dec 9 19:22:45 2016 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2016 10:22:45 -0800 Subject: [Users] (Solved) Not downloading from Gmail In-Reply-To: <20161209084610.4223be07@kujata> References: <20161208150437.3a762434@Devil-Bonobo> <20161208213655.684898c6@pfortin.com> <20161208191610.55f3f483@Devil-Bonobo> <20161209084610.4223be07@kujata> Message-ID: <20161209102245.3ead05a5@Devil-Bonobo> On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 08:46:10 +0000 Paul dijo: >On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 19:16:10 -0800 >John Jason Jordan wrote: > >> 2) I turned on 'allow less secure apps,' but it made no difference. > >You definitely need that google option turned on. In google's world >'less secure' is a misnomer for apps that don't support OAuth 2.0, and >Claws does not use OAuth. Success! But the strange thing is that I had turned this on yesterday and it made no difference, so I turned it back off. But after turning it back on this morning suddenly I am able to download all the e-mails. And I swear that when I turned it on yesterday the web page flashed "updated" and the "Turn on" radio button was properly checked, so I don't know why it had no effect yesterday. Oh well. Thanks to everyone for the help! From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 9 20:59:50 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2016 19:59:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3745] New: Incomplete version of mail remains in Queue folder after sending Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3745 Bug ID: 3745 Summary: Incomplete version of mail remains in Queue folder after sending Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.14.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Folders/IMAP Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: johannes at selfnet.de This happens frequently but not always. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 9 22:31:36 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2016 21:31:36 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3743] Tags are not saved In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3743 --- Comment #2 from jecagi at yahoo.es --- (In reply to comment #1) > It works fine here. Is that an IMAP account or a local one? > > If that's an IMAP account open network log (Tools/Network Log) and see which > messages the server is returning when you apply the tags. Thank you, Ricardo, for your quick answer. It's indeed an IMAP account (@yahoo.es) but I can't find anything relevant in the network log. At 22:12 I added a $Viajes tag to a message. Then waited until 22:13 before: 1) Changed to a different message, same folder and came back -> The tag was still there. 2) Changed to a different folder and back to the original message -> The tag was gone. Here is the log of those two minutes: [22:12:09] IMAP> 52 NOOP [22:12:09] IMAP< 52 OK NOOP completed [22:12:15] IMAP> 25 NOOP [22:12:15] IMAP< 25 OK Success [22:13:09] IMAP> 53 NOOP [22:13:09] IMAP< 53 OK NOOP completed [22:13:14] IMAP> 54 STATUS "INBOX/Cdad. vecinos" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) [22:13:14] IMAP< * STATUS "Inbox/Cdad. vecinos" (MESSAGES 4 UIDNEXT 59854 UIDVALIDITY 1479493484 UNSEEN 0) [22:13:14] IMAP< 54 OK STATUS completed [22:13:14] IMAP> 55 SELECT "INBOX/Cdad. vecinos" [22:13:14] IMAP< * 4 EXISTS [22:13:14] IMAP< * 0 RECENT [22:13:14] IMAP< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1479493484] UIDs valid [22:13:14] IMAP< * OK [UIDNEXT 59854] Predicted next UID [22:13:14] IMAP< * FLAGS (\Answered \Deleted \Draft \Flagged \Seen $Forwarded $Junk $NotJunk) [22:13:14] IMAP< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Deleted \Draft \Flagged \Seen $Forwarded $Junk $NotJunk)] Permanent flags [22:13:14] IMAP< * OK [HIGHESTMODSEQ 6360203047064456024] [22:13:14] IMAP< 55 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed; now in selected state [22:13:14] IMAP- [fetching flags...] [22:13:14] IMAP> 56 UID FETCH 1:* (FLAGS UID) [22:13:14] IMAP< [FETCH data - 222 bytes] [22:13:15] IMAP> 26 NOOP [22:13:15] IMAP< 26 OK Success [22:13:19] IMAP> 57 STATUS INBOX (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) [22:13:19] IMAP< * STATUS "Inbox" (MESSAGES 57 UIDNEXT 60787 UIDVALIDITY 1 UNSEEN 42) [22:13:19] IMAP< 57 OK STATUS completed [22:13:19] IMAP> 58 SELECT INBOX [22:13:19] IMAP< * 57 EXISTS [22:13:19] IMAP< * 0 RECENT [22:13:19] IMAP< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1] UIDs valid [22:13:19] IMAP< * OK [UIDNEXT 60787] Predicted next UID [22:13:19] IMAP< * FLAGS (\Answered \Deleted \Draft \Flagged \Seen $Forwarded $Junk $NotJunk) [22:13:19] IMAP< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Deleted \Draft \Flagged \Seen $Forwarded $Junk $NotJunk)] Permanent flags [22:13:19] IMAP< * OK [HIGHESTMODSEQ 6362210793018097664] [22:13:19] IMAP< 58 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed; now in selected state [22:13:19] IMAP- [fetching flags...] [22:13:19] IMAP> 59 UID FETCH 1:* (FLAGS UID) [22:13:19] IMAP< [FETCH data - 2470 bytes] -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From johnxj at comcast.net Sat Dec 10 05:42:34 2016 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2016 20:42:34 -0800 Subject: [Users] Best free e-mail service that works with Claws Mail by POP3 Message-ID: <20161209204234.4bfb26b6@Devil-Bonobo> In the near future I plan to switch from Comcast to CenturyLink. When I do I assume that my Comcast e-mail account will go away, so I am looking for an alternative. I am asking here for advice because if it won't work with Claws Mail by POP3 it gets crossed off the list. I should add that I have had a Gmail account for years, but I find it difficult to use because it is designed mainly for web interface, and probably not the most secure. Otherwise I am open to suggestions. From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sat Dec 10 07:59:51 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 07:59:51 +0100 Subject: [Users] Best free e-mail service that works with Claws Mail by POP3 In-Reply-To: <20161209204234.4bfb26b6@Devil-Bonobo> References: <20161209204234.4bfb26b6@Devil-Bonobo> Message-ID: <20161210075951.16db4399@utnubu> Hi, my experiences: Good: Zoho works with Claws and all mailing lists. Yahoo/Rocketmail works with Claws, but not with all mailing lists, but for anything else. Some mailing lists work around the issues and apart from this other providers will follow Yahoo soon or later and require the same workaround. Not good: IIRC Mail.com limits mails that can be send per hour and IIRC safe-mail.net requires to log in once a month or so. I'm using Zoho, Yahoo/Rocketmail and even mail.com, but my safe-mail.net accounts are unused. All my accounts are POP accounts, but IIRC all could be used with IMAP, too. However, you ask for POP accounts. I don't care if they are secure or insecure, respect privacy or not, so in this regards you need to do research on your own. If you do so, let me know what you find out about security and privacy. Regards, Ralf From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sat Dec 10 08:07:48 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 08:07:48 +0100 Subject: [Users] Best free e-mail service that works with Claws Mail by POP3 In-Reply-To: <20161210075951.16db4399@utnubu> References: <20161209204234.4bfb26b6@Devil-Bonobo> <20161210075951.16db4399@utnubu> Message-ID: <20161210080748.107fb191@utnubu> On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 07:59:51 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >Hi, > >my experiences: > >Good: >Zoho works with Claws and all mailing lists. >Yahoo/Rocketmail works with Claws, but not with all mailing lists, but >for anything else. Some mailing lists work around the issues and apart >from this other providers will follow Yahoo soon or later and require >the same workaround. > >Not good: >IIRC Mail.com limits mails that can be send per hour and >IIRC safe-mail.net requires to log in once a month or so. > >I'm using Zoho, Yahoo/Rocketmail and even mail.com, but my >safe-mail.net accounts are unused. > >All my accounts are POP accounts, but IIRC all could be used with IMAP, >too. However, you ask for POP accounts. I don't care if they are secure >or insecure, respect privacy or not, so in this regards you need to do >research on your own. If you do so, let me know what you find out about >security and privacy. > >Regards, >Ralf PS: I dislike to use spam filters of the providers, because they usually cause too many false positives, so if possible I turn them off and if required I use the usually not very good server filters. Anyway, I don't receive much spam and the little bit of spam could be easily filtered after retrieving using bogofilter. I don't know what kind of settings I use by what of my accounts on the server side and I'm to lazy to take a look, but I don't miss mail, so no false positives without getting informed and again, not much spam. From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sat Dec 10 08:14:01 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 08:14:01 +0100 Subject: [Users] Best free e-mail service that works with Claws Mail by POP3 In-Reply-To: <20161210080748.107fb191@utnubu> References: <20161209204234.4bfb26b6@Devil-Bonobo> <20161210075951.16db4399@utnubu> <20161210080748.107fb191@utnubu> Message-ID: <20161210081401.0838f474@utnubu> On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 08:07:48 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 07:59:51 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>Hi, >> >>my experiences: >> >>Good: >>Zoho works with Claws and all mailing lists. >>Yahoo/Rocketmail works with Claws, but not with all mailing lists, but >>for anything else. Some mailing lists work around the issues and apart >>from this other providers will follow Yahoo soon or later and require >>the same workaround. >> >>Not good: >>IIRC Mail.com limits mails that can be send per hour and >>IIRC safe-mail.net requires to log in once a month or so. >> >>I'm using Zoho, Yahoo/Rocketmail and even mail.com, but my >>safe-mail.net accounts are unused. >> >>All my accounts are POP accounts, but IIRC all could be used with >>IMAP, too. However, you ask for POP accounts. I don't care if they >>are secure or insecure, respect privacy or not, so in this regards >>you need to do research on your own. If you do so, let me know what >>you find out about security and privacy. >> >>Regards, >>Ralf > >PS: > >I dislike to use spam filters of the providers, because they usually >cause too many false positives, so if possible I turn them off and if >required I use the usually not very good server filters. Anyway, I >don't receive much spam and the little bit of spam could be easily >filtered after retrieving using bogofilter. I don't know what kind of >settings I use by what of my accounts on the server side and I'm to >lazy to take a look, but I don't miss mail, so no false positives >without getting informed and again, not much spam. PPS: I don't remember any blackhole list issues with any of the above mentioned providers. The only provider I remember, that several times was blackhole listed for around 24 hours by one or the other recipient is my ISP Alice, who gets money and doesn't prove a free e-mail service. From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sat Dec 10 08:18:07 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 08:18:07 +0100 Subject: [Users] Best free e-mail service that works with Claws Mail by POP3 In-Reply-To: <20161210081401.0838f474@utnubu> References: <20161209204234.4bfb26b6@Devil-Bonobo> <20161210075951.16db4399@utnubu> <20161210080748.107fb191@utnubu> <20161210081401.0838f474@utnubu> Message-ID: <20161210081807.66bc62b4@utnubu> On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 08:14:01 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >The only provider I remember, that several times >was blackhole listed for around 24 hours by one or the other recipient >is my ISP Alice, who gets money and doesn't prove a free e-mail >service. ^^^^^ ^^^^^ provide My apologies, no PS will follow. From subscript at free.fr Sat Dec 10 12:20:55 2016 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 12:20:55 +0100 Subject: [Users] Best free e-mail service that works with Claws Mail by POP3 In-Reply-To: <20161209204234.4bfb26b6@Devil-Bonobo> References: <20161209204234.4bfb26b6@Devil-Bonobo> Message-ID: <20161210122055.1a107133@anthra> Hello John, On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 20:42:34 -0800 John Jason Jordan wrote: > In the near future I plan to switch from Comcast to CenturyLink. When I > do I assume that my Comcast e-mail account will go away, so I am > looking for an alternative. I am asking here for advice because if it > won't work with Claws Mail by POP3 it gets crossed off the list. > > I should add that I have had a Gmail account for years, but I find it > difficult to use because it is designed mainly for web interface, and > probably not the most secure. Otherwise I am open to suggestions. You could register for free an email account and up to 10 aliases (read: other email accounts) at gmx.com. Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From epodata at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 12:53:39 2016 From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 12:53:39 +0100 Subject: [Users] Viewer? Message-ID: <20161210125339.48787a4b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk> When I receive an e-mail with a link to some webpage nothing happens when I click on it wit the left mouse button. The right button reveals a choice between "Open in a viewer" and "Open in a browser". What is this viewer which apparently does nothing? -- Erik From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Dec 10 13:21:11 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 12:21:11 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3735] RFE: the number of accounts may make main window very tall In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3735 Ricardo Mones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones --- Implemented in: http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=clawsker.git;a=commitdiff;h=c72062640563296693da72a3645239c9f5a25c36 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Dec 10 13:26:56 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 12:26:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3745] Incomplete version of mail remains in Queue folder after sending In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3745 --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones --- http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html#intermittent -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Dec 10 13:34:56 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 12:34:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3574] Template addressing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3574 Ricardo Mones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #3 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2016-12-10 13:34:03.135481008 +0100 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=57207707795a3a26a23f260782055398e51c01cf Merge: a6ee4c0 9123296 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Sat Dec 10 13:34:02 2016 +0100 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=9123296406a1f61f21464ca8fd439d315b4c8367 Author: Ricardo Mones Date: Sat Dec 10 13:32:41 2016 +0100 Fix bug #3574: Template addressing Remove artificial limitations to values of email addresses on templates: these strings are already parsed and split when the template is applied in compose window. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Dec 10 13:43:43 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 12:43:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2550] [Patch] Improvement of HTML rendering as text (

tag) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2550 Ricardo Mones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones --- This has been already implemented in a slightly different way: http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c8e1a90e794a019a9fe3f8c32255efa51583274 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sat Dec 10 14:54:03 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 14:54:03 +0100 Subject: [Users] Viewer? In-Reply-To: <20161210125339.48787a4b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk> References: <20161210125339.48787a4b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk> Message-ID: <20161210145403.618794b0@utnubu> On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 12:53:39 +0100, Erik P. Olsen wrote: >When I receive an e-mail with a link to some webpage nothing happens >when I click on it wit the left mouse button. The right button reveals >a choice between "Open in a viewer" and "Open in a browser". What is >this viewer which apparently does nothing? Configuration > Preferences... > Message View > External Programs > [ ] Use system defaults when possible Web browser firefox '%s' Uncheck "Use system defaults when possible" and choose "firefox" or any other browser, just keep the "'%s'". Regards, Ralf From lists at lazygranch.com Sat Dec 10 17:51:09 2016 From: lists at lazygranch.com (lists at lazygranch.com) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 08:51:09 -0800 Subject: [Users] Best free e-mail service that works with Claws Mail by POP3 In-Reply-To: <20161210122055.1a107133@anthra> References: <20161209204234.4bfb26b6@Devil-Bonobo> <20161210122055.1a107133@anthra> Message-ID: <20161210165109.5435470.43606.18171@lazygranch.com> GMX has a reputation as a source of spam. I have lots of email suggestions, but none that are free, other than gmail. Google has a pay service poorly named Google apps. I run my own email server, so I have no first hand experience with Google apps other than what I had read, but it looks good. You can register a domain, get DKIM and SPF, which makes it very likely your mail will not be rejected. Original Message From: wwp Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 3:21 AM To: users at lists.claws-mail.org Subject: Re: [Users] Best free e-mail service that works with Claws Mail by POP3 Hello John, On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 20:42:34 -0800 John Jason Jordan wrote: > In the near future I plan to switch from Comcast to CenturyLink. When I > do I assume that my Comcast e-mail account will go away, so I am > looking for an alternative. I am asking here for advice because if it > won't work with Claws Mail by POP3 it gets crossed off the list. > > I should add that I have had a Gmail account for years, but I find it > difficult to use because it is designed mainly for web interface, and > probably not the most secure. Otherwise I am open to suggestions. You could register for free an email account and up to 10 aliases (read: other email accounts) at gmx.com. Regards, -- wwp From sm0oojzz at fastimap.com Sat Dec 10 18:03:29 2016 From: sm0oojzz at fastimap.com (sm0oojzz at fastimap.com) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 12:03:29 -0500 Subject: [Users] Best free e-mail service that works with Claws Mail by POP3 In-Reply-To: <20161209204234.4bfb26b6@Devil-Bonobo> References: <20161209204234.4bfb26b6@Devil-Bonobo> Message-ID: <34cbc2ae-d3f5-a068-8eed-4eecedc9afea@fastimap.com> On 12/09/2016 11:42 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > In the near future I plan to switch from Comcast to CenturyLink. When I > do I assume that my Comcast e-mail account will go away, so I am > looking for an alternative. I am asking here for advice because if it > won't work with Claws Mail by POP3 it gets crossed off the list. > > I should add that I have had a Gmail account for years, but I find it > difficult to use because it is designed mainly for web interface, and > probably not the most secure. Otherwise I am open to suggestions. > _______________________________________________ If you want a free account, you'll get what you pay for. I have no issues using POP with gmail, but if you are willing to use a low cost provider, I'd recommend Fastmail. -- John From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Dec 10 18:37:59 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 17:37:59 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3743] Tags are not saved In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3743 --- Comment #3 from Ricardo Mones --- You don't need to wait, I'd want to see the response of server when you set the flag, which unfortunately is not on your log. For example, if set the BUG tag the following is immediately written in my network log: [18:30:27] IMAP> 317 UID STORE 156481 +FLAGS.SILENT (BUG) [18:30:28] IMAP< * 57140 FETCH (UID 156481 FLAGS (BUG \Seen)) [18:30:28] IMAP< 317 OK Success What does appear on yours? Also, does the tag also disappear if you don't use '$' in the tag? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From oao at csi.com Sat Dec 10 19:16:46 2016 From: oao at csi.com (oao at csi.com) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 10:16:46 -0800 Subject: [Users] Attachment missing - Windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20161210.181646.790.1@[0.0.0.0]> I had two instances of an attchment missing, but it came through with another email program. FP ----- Original Message ----- From: users-request at lists.claws-mail.org To: users at lists.claws-mail.org Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 18:38:01 +0100 Subject: Users Digest, Vol 64, Issue 17 > Send Users mailing list submissions to > users at lists.claws-mail.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > users-request at lists.claws-mail.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > users-owner at lists.claws-mail.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Best free e-mail service that works with Claws Mail by > POP3 (wwp) > 2. Viewer? (Erik P. Olsen) > 3. [Bug 3735] RFE: the number of accounts may make main window > very tall (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) > 4. [Bug 3745] Incomplete version of mail remains in Queue folder > after sending (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) > 5. [Bug 3574] Template addressing (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) > 6. [Bug 2550] [Patch] Improvement of HTML rendering as text > (
tag) (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) > 7. Re: Viewer? (Ralf Mardorf) > 8. Re: Best free e-mail service that works with Claws Mail by > POP3 (lists at lazygranch.com) > 9. Re: Best free e-mail service that works with Claws Mail by > POP3 (sm0oojzz at fastimap.com) > 10. [Bug 3743] Tags are not saved (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 12:20:55 +0100 > From: wwp > To: users at lists.claws-mail.org > Subject: Re: [Users] Best free e-mail service that works with Claws > Mail by POP3 > Message-ID: <20161210122055.1a107133 at anthra> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello John, > > > On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 20:42:34 -0800 John Jason Jordan wrote: > > > In the near future I plan to switch from Comcast to CenturyLink. When I > > do I assume that my Comcast e-mail account will go away, so I am > > looking for an alternative. I am asking here for advice because if it > > won't work with Claws Mail by POP3 it gets crossed off the list. > > > > I should add that I have had a Gmail account for years, but I find it > > difficult to use because it is designed mainly for web interface, and > > probably not the most secure. Otherwise I am open to suggestions. > > You could register for free an email account and up to 10 aliases (read: > other email accounts) at gmx.com. > > > Regards, > > -- > wwp > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 198 bytes > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 12:53:39 +0100 > From: "Erik P. Olsen" > To: Claws ML > Subject: [Users] Viewer? > Message-ID: <20161210125339.48787a4b at Erik-PC.epolan.dk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > When I receive an e-mail with a link to some webpage nothing happens > when I click on it wit the left mouse button. The right button reveals > a choice between "Open in a viewer" and "Open in a browser". What is > this viewer which apparently does nothing? > > -- > Erik > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 12:21:11 +0000 > From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk > To: users at lists.claws-mail.org > Subject: [Users] [Bug 3735] RFE: the number of accounts may make main > window very tall > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3735 > > Ricardo Mones changed: > > What |Removed |Added > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Status|NEW |RESOLVED > Resolution|--- |FIXED > > --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones --- > Implemented in: > > http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=clawsker.git;a=commitdiff;h=c72062640563296693da72a3645239c9f5a25c36 > > -- > You are receiving this mail because: > You are the assignee for the bug. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 12:26:56 +0000 > From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk > To: users at lists.claws-mail.org > Subject: [Users] [Bug 3745] Incomplete version of mail remains in > Queue folder after sending > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3745 > > --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones --- > http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html#intermittent > > -- > You are receiving this mail because: > You are the assignee for the bug. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 12:34:56 +0000 > From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk > To: users at lists.claws-mail.org > Subject: [Users] [Bug 3574] Template addressing > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3574 > > Ricardo Mones changed: > > What |Removed |Added > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Status|NEW |RESOLVED > Resolution|--- |FIXED > > --- Comment #3 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- > Changes related to this bug have been committed. > Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. > You can also get the patch from: > http://git.claws-mail.org/ > > ++ ChangeLog 2016-12-10 13:34:03.135481008 +0100 > http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=57207707795a3a26a23f260782055398e51c01cf > Merge: a6ee4c0 9123296 > Author: Colin Leroy > Date: Sat Dec 10 13:34:02 2016 +0100 > > Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws > > http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=9123296406a1f61f21464ca8fd439d315b4c8367 > Author: Ricardo Mones > Date: Sat Dec 10 13:32:41 2016 +0100 > > Fix bug #3574: Template addressing > > Remove artificial limitations to values of email addresses on templates: > these strings are already parsed and split when the template is applied > in compose window. > > -- > You are receiving this mail because: > You are the assignee for the bug. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 12:43:43 +0000 > From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk > To: users at lists.claws-mail.org > Subject: [Users] [Bug 2550] [Patch] Improvement of HTML rendering as > text (
tag) > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2550 > > Ricardo Mones changed: > > What |Removed |Added > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Status|NEW |RESOLVED > Resolution|--- |FIXED > > --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones --- > This has been already implemented in a slightly different way: > > http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c8e1a90e794a019a9fe3f8c32255efa51583274 > > -- > You are receiving this mail because: > You are the assignee for the bug. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 14:54:03 +0100 > From: Ralf Mardorf > To: users at lists.claws-mail.org > Subject: Re: [Users] Viewer? > Message-ID: <20161210145403.618794b0 at utnubu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 12:53:39 +0100, Erik P. Olsen wrote: > >When I receive an e-mail with a link to some webpage nothing happens > >when I click on it wit the left mouse button. The right button reveals > >a choice between "Open in a viewer" and "Open in a browser". What is > >this viewer which apparently does nothing? > > Configuration > Preferences... > Message View > External Programs > > [ ] Use system defaults when possible > Web browser firefox '%s' > > Uncheck "Use system defaults when possible" and choose "firefox" or any > other browser, just keep the "'%s'". > > Regards, > Ralf > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 08:51:09 -0800 > From: lists at lazygranch.com > To: wwp , users at lists.claws-mail.org > Subject: Re: [Users] Best free e-mail service that works with Claws > Mail by POP3 > Message-ID: <20161210165109.5435470.43606.18171 at lazygranch.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > GMX has a reputation as a source of spam.? > > I have lots of email suggestions, but none that are free, other than gmail. Google has a pay service poorly named Google apps. I run my own email server, so I have no first hand experience with Google apps other than what I had read, but it looks good. You can register a domain, get DKIM and SPF, which makes it very likely your mail will not be rejected. > > > > ? Original Message ? > From: wwp > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 3:21 AM > To: users at lists.claws-mail.org > Subject: Re: [Users] Best free e-mail service that works with Claws Mail by POP3 > > Hello John, > > > On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 20:42:34 -0800 John Jason Jordan wrote: > > > In the near future I plan to switch from Comcast to CenturyLink. When I > > do I assume that my Comcast e-mail account will go away, so I am > > looking for an alternative. I am asking here for advice because if it > > won't work with Claws Mail by POP3 it gets crossed off the list. > > > > I should add that I have had a Gmail account for years, but I find it > > difficult to use because it is designed mainly for web interface, and > > probably not the most secure. Otherwise I am open to suggestions. > > You could register for free an email account and up to 10 aliases (read: > other email accounts) at gmx.com. > > > Regards, > > -- > wwp > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 12:03:29 -0500 > From: sm0oojzz at fastimap.com > To: users at lists.claws-mail.org > Subject: Re: [Users] Best free e-mail service that works with Claws > Mail by POP3 > Message-ID: <34cbc2ae-d3f5-a068-8eed-4eecedc9afea at fastimap.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > On 12/09/2016 11:42 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > > In the near future I plan to switch from Comcast to CenturyLink. When I > > do I assume that my Comcast e-mail account will go away, so I am > > looking for an alternative. I am asking here for advice because if it > > won't work with Claws Mail by POP3 it gets crossed off the list. > > > > I should add that I have had a Gmail account for years, but I find it > > difficult to use because it is designed mainly for web interface, and > > probably not the most secure. Otherwise I am open to suggestions. > > _______________________________________________ > > > If you want a free account, you'll get what you pay for. I have no > issues using POP with gmail, but if you are willing to use a low cost > provider, I'd recommend Fastmail. > > -- > John > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 17:37:59 +0000 > From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk > To: users at lists.claws-mail.org > Subject: [Users] [Bug 3743] Tags are not saved > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3743 > > --- Comment #3 from Ricardo Mones --- > You don't need to wait, I'd want to see the response of server when you set the > flag, which unfortunately is not on your log. > > For example, if set the BUG tag the following is immediately written in my > network log: > > [18:30:27] IMAP> 317 UID STORE 156481 +FLAGS.SILENT (BUG) > [18:30:28] IMAP< * 57140 FETCH (UID 156481 FLAGS (BUG \Seen)) > [18:30:28] IMAP< 317 OK Success > > What does appear on yours? > > Also, does the tag also disappear if you don't use '$' in the tag? > > -- > You are receiving this mail because: > You are the assignee for the bug. > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Users Digest, Vol 64, Issue 17 > ************************************* > From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sat Dec 10 19:29:17 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 19:29:17 +0100 Subject: [Users] Attachment missing - Windows In-Reply-To: <20161210.181646.790.1@[0.0.0.0]> References: <20161210.181646.790.1@[0.0.0.0]> Message-ID: <20161210192917.20dd5e0f@utnubu> On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 10:16:46 -0800, oao at csi.com wrote: >I had two instances of an attchment missing, but it came through >with another email program. Thank you for quoting the digest, to start a new thread :D. From subscript at free.fr Sat Dec 10 20:12:17 2016 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 20:12:17 +0100 Subject: [Users] Attachment missing - Windows In-Reply-To: <20161210192917.20dd5e0f@utnubu> References: <20161210.181646.790.1@[0.0.0.0]> <20161210192917.20dd5e0f@utnubu> Message-ID: <20161210201217.52fdf455@anthra> Hello Ralf, On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 19:29:17 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 10:16:46 -0800, oao at csi.com wrote: > >I had two instances of an attchment missing, but it came through > >with another email program. > > Thank you for quoting the digest, to start a new thread :D. That's what he did, didn't he? Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Sat Dec 10 23:26:51 2016 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 22:26:51 +0000 Subject: [Users] Attachment missing - Windows In-Reply-To: <20161210201217.52fdf455@anthra> References: <20161210.181646.790.1@[0.0.0.0]> <20161210192917.20dd5e0f@utnubu> <20161210201217.52fdf455@anthra> Message-ID: <20161210222651.000025e6@prost.fenrir.org.uk> On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 20:12:17 +0100 wwp wrote: > Hello Ralf, > > > On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 19:29:17 +0100 Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > > > On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 10:16:46 -0800, oao at csi.com wrote: > > >I had two instances of an attchment missing, but it came through > > >with another email program. > > > > Thank you for quoting the digest, to start a new thread :D. > > That's what he did, didn't he? I think Ralf was commenting on the quotation of the _whole_ digest, unnecessary but at least the question was at the top :-o -- Brian From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Dec 11 22:52:39 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 21:52:39 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3743] Tags are not saved In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3743 --- Comment #4 from jecagi at yahoo.es --- (In reply to comment #3) > You don't need to wait, I'd want to see the response of server when you set > the flag, which unfortunately is not on your log. > > For example, if set the BUG tag the following is immediately written in my > network log: > > [18:30:27] IMAP> 317 UID STORE 156481 +FLAGS.SILENT (BUG) > [18:30:28] IMAP< * 57140 FETCH (UID 156481 FLAGS (BUG \Seen)) > [18:30:28] IMAP< 317 OK Success > > What does appear on yours? > > Also, does the tag also disappear if you don't use '$' in the tag? The same happens if I don't use '$'. I set a 'compras' flag (without '$') and this is what is written in the network log: [22:44:18] IMAP> 24 SELECT Archivo [22:44:18] IMAP< * 655 EXISTS [22:44:18] IMAP< * 0 RECENT [22:44:18] IMAP< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 27] UIDs valid [22:44:18] IMAP< * OK [UIDNEXT 60775] Predicted next UID [22:44:18] IMAP< * FLAGS (\Answered \Deleted \Draft \Flagged \Seen $Forwarded $Junk $NotJunk) [22:44:18] IMAP< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Deleted \Draft \Flagged \Seen $Forwarded $Junk $NotJunk)] Permanent flags [22:44:18] IMAP< * OK [HIGHESTMODSEQ 6362073882873089072] [22:44:18] IMAP< 24 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed; now in selected state [22:44:27] IMAP> 72 NOOP [22:44:27] IMAP< 72 OK Success [22:44:47] IMAP> 25 NOOP [22:44:47] IMAP< 25 OK NOOP completed Nothing to do with the word 'compras' as you can see. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Dec 11 22:55:06 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 21:55:06 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3743] Tags are not saved In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3743 --- Comment #5 from jecagi at yahoo.es --- I mean 'Compras tag' (not flag). Sorry. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Dec 12 07:30:32 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 06:30:32 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3743] Tags are not saved In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3743 --- Comment #6 from Ricardo Mones --- (In reply to comment #4) [...] > The same happens if I don't use '$'. I set a 'compras' flag (without '$') > and this is what is written in the network log: > [22:44:18] IMAP> 24 SELECT Archivo Well, that's still not what I'd want to see (that's that is written when a folder is open, not when a tag is set), so let's try again: 1. Open network log 2. Open some folder 3. Select some message 4. Wait until network log stops being written 5. Right-click the message you previously selected 6. Set a tag and post here what's written in network log at that moment Thanks in advance, -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Dec 12 10:23:03 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 09:23:03 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3272] Sometimes claws wants to reindex huge folders for no reason In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3272 --- Comment #13 from clawsmail16.3.trooner at spamgourmet.com --- Sure its related to indexing? I get those errors when I have a few (3k) mails in my inbox and run my ~20 Processing Rules over that. Processing seems to run until the end but claws mail won't update the gui during that process. Especially rules with big address books attached to their processing (e.g. if adr in book) seem to keep it working alot. Claws-Mail: 3.11.1 Debian Stable thanks for this great software and greetings -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Dec 12 12:56:50 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:56:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] Viewer? In-Reply-To: <20161210125339.48787a4b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk> References: <20161210125339.48787a4b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk> Message-ID: <20161212115650.5cf5450e@kujata> On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 12:53:39 +0100 "Erik P. Olsen" wrote: > What is > this viewer which apparently does nothing? The 'viewer' refers to the HTML Viewer, i.e. the HTML message area, what you are looking at. If you choose to 'Open in viewer' it loads the link directly in Claws Mail, rather than the other, 'Open in browser', which will open the link in your chosen browser. with regards Paul From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Dec 12 16:36:12 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 15:36:12 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3746] New: Ability to completely turn-off ALL keyboard shortcuts Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3746 Bug ID: 3746 Summary: Ability to completely turn-off ALL keyboard shortcuts Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.14.1 Hardware: PC OS: Windows 7 Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: Other Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: wazz at ellijay.com I fat-finger quite a bit, and inadvertently send unfinished emails. I NEVER use keyboard shortcuts, would like to turn completely off. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Dec 12 16:38:03 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 15:38:03 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3746] Ability to completely turn-off ALL keyboard shortcuts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3746 --- Comment #1 from wazz at ellijay.com --- Correction - I do use for cut & paste commands, so would like to retain those -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From edodd55 at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 00:00:26 2016 From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 10:00:26 +1100 Subject: [Users] Difficulty sending through Gmail In-Reply-To: <20161206191936.2d95abc1@penny> References: <20161206110731.7cf385c2@billiau.net> <20161206072010.1c004183@kujata> <20161206191936.2d95abc1@penny> Message-ID: <20161213100026.60b57e75.edodd55@gmail.com> On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 19:19:36 +0100 Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 07:20:10 +0000 > Paul wrote: > > > > *** Session timed out. You may be able to recover by increasing > > > the timeout value in Preferences/Other/Miscellaneous. > > > > Did you try this? > > Perhaps your ISP started blocking TCP port 25 and wants you to use > their own mail servers to send e-mail? > > You could try port 587 instead, or 465 if you enable TLS/SSL. > > Regards, This problem seems to have disappeared. I saw the next but one thread was "Not downloading from Gmail" which has also resolved itself, so I think that the problem was on a Gmail server. Liz From doark at mail.com Tue Dec 13 15:16:33 2016 From: doark at mail.com (David Niklas) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 09:16:33 -0500 Subject: [Users] Best free e-mail service that works with Claws Mail by POP3 Message-ID: <20161213091633.49de7abe@ulgy_thing> I use mail.com. Always have. There spam filtering is a bit unhelpful, but other then that they seem ok enough. Sincerely, David From silver.bullet at zoho.com Wed Dec 14 07:31:20 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 07:31:20 +0100 Subject: [Users] Best free e-mail service that works with Claws Mail by POP3 In-Reply-To: <20161213091633.49de7abe@ulgy_thing> References: <20161213091633.49de7abe@ulgy_thing> Message-ID: <20161214073120.1212d868@utnubu> On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 09:16:33 -0500, David Niklas wrote: >I use mail.com. Always have. There spam filtering is a bit unhelpful, >but other then that they seem ok enough. For your free mail.com POP accounts there's no limit of the amount of mails you are allowed to send per hour by smpt? There at least was (and perhaps still is) such a limit for my account, let alone that it's not that easy to get one with a German IP, since they redirect to gmx.{de,at,ch}. In the past I preferred Rocketmail, aka Yahoo, nowadays I like Zoho. I only have one Zoho address and still use my old Rocketmail addresses a lot, but if I should need a new address I most likely would use Zoho. As mentioned earlier, Rocketmail/Yahoo could cause issues with mailing lists, Zoho is good for everything. As also pointed out earlier, I don't know anything about the security and privacy, I only refer to less spam and unlimited POP access and sending by SMPT using Claws and that the service is always available, neither I experienced blackhole listing issues. From epodata at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 08:55:57 2016 From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 08:55:57 +0100 Subject: [Users] Viewer? In-Reply-To: <20161212115650.5cf5450e@kujata> References: <20161210125339.48787a4b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk> <20161212115650.5cf5450e@kujata> Message-ID: <20161214085557.60875b23@Erik-PC.epolan.dk> On 2016-12-12 at 11:56:50 Paul wrote: > On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 12:53:39 +0100 > "Erik P. Olsen" wrote: > > > What is > > this viewer which apparently does nothing? > > The 'viewer' refers to the HTML Viewer, i.e. the HTML message area, > what you are looking at. If you choose to 'Open in viewer' it loads > the link directly in Claws Mail, rather than the other, 'Open in > browser', which will open the link in your chosen browser. OK, apparently Claws Mail "viewer" doesn't do anything to the link. But this is fine with me since I prefer to use my chosen browser. -- Erik From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Dec 14 09:04:49 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 08:04:49 +0000 Subject: [Users] Viewer? In-Reply-To: <20161214085557.60875b23@Erik-PC.epolan.dk> References: <20161210125339.48787a4b@Erik-PC.epolan.dk> <20161212115650.5cf5450e@kujata> <20161214085557.60875b23@Erik-PC.epolan.dk> Message-ID: <20161214080449.555d309b@kujata> On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 08:55:57 +0100 "Erik P. Olsen" wrote: > OK, apparently Claws Mail "viewer" doesn't do anything to the link. Works for me. with regards Paul From rostedt at goodmis.org Wed Dec 14 15:48:34 2016 From: rostedt at goodmis.org (Steven Rostedt) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 09:48:34 -0500 Subject: [Users] Version 3.14.0, HTML messages & Fancy plugin In-Reply-To: <20160921211204.6c4e36e0@trueos-1960.micro.com> References: <20160921200035.48e986b1@dpc> <20160921120323.5df0837f@riverside> <20160921171105.79506ae4@kujata> <20160921211204.6c4e36e0@trueos-1960.micro.com> Message-ID: <20161214094834.4121a9c3@gandalf.local.home> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 21:12:04 -0400 "Rodney D. Myers" wrote: > Further update. > > FreeBSD claws-mail 3.14.0 > FreeBSD claws-mail-fancy 3.14.0 > > they show fine > > debian stretch/sid claws-mail 3.14.0 > debian stretch/sid claws-mail-fancy 3.14.0 > do not show fine This has been bothering me for months. Fancy failed on almost all html emails on my laptop, but worked fine on my desktop. They both had pretty much the same packages installed too (both Debian). I started looking into the code, and found that the issue was in webkit. I added a handler to catch load errors, and when the html file was loaded into the webkit uri, it triggered a load error of "Frame load interrupted". Not very helpful. I downloaded the source of webkit and started debugging that, but also did some searches where I came across this: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3644#c5 Instead of updating the mime database, I tested it by just moving the ~/.local/share/mime directory to /tmp, and then fancy started working fine again. I added back the directory and it broke again. Thus the issue is with the local setup, not the installation packages. I'll need to send the patch that catches the "load error" signal to claws-mail fancy plugin, because that would have given a bit more information to what was going wrong. -- Steve From francesco.scaglione at sfr.fr Wed Dec 14 23:38:33 2016 From: francesco.scaglione at sfr.fr (francesco scaglione) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 23:38:33 +0100 Subject: [Users] Syncing Debian and Windows Message-ID: <20161214233833.67e016d1@Stream> I'm using Claws Mail on many PCs and Laptops for my personal accounts and at work, all of them running Debian. When I need to add a new machine, I simply sync the ./claws-mail and the /Mail directories with the other PCs and the first time that I start Claws Mail on the new PC everything is perfectly working, no need to pass through the wizard to set anything: all the folders and the mails are there. Now I happen to have a new Windows machine and I tried to launch Claws after syncing the same two directories with the Debian PCs, but this time things are not going so smoothly... the wizard started and I stopped it. I guess that the structure of the Claws' directories in Windows is completely different and so maybe what I'm trying to achieve is impossible: is it so, or do you see another possibility? Thank you very much for your help, Francesco From mir at miras.org Wed Dec 14 23:52:04 2016 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 23:52:04 +0100 Subject: [Users] Syncing Debian and Windows In-Reply-To: <20161214233833.67e016d1@Stream> References: <20161214233833.67e016d1@Stream> Message-ID: <20161214235204.2b5a4793@sleipner.datanom.net> On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 23:38:33 +0100 francesco scaglione wrote: > > I guess that the structure of the Claws' directories in Windows is > completely different and so maybe what I'm trying to achieve is > impossible: is it so, or do you see another possibility? > It could also be something simple like the difference in the code for end of line between the two systems. *nix: \n windows: \r\n In Linux there is a tool for converting end of lines in files according to the two OS': dos2unix and unix2dos -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: The founding fathers tried to set up a judicial system where the accused received a fair trial, not a system to insure an acquittal on technicalities. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So you think I should try to use unix2dos on the configuration files of the Debian Claws Mail? Francesco From mir at miras.org Thu Dec 15 22:31:22 2016 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 22:31:22 +0100 Subject: [Users] Syncing Debian and Windows In-Reply-To: <20161215220445.65c1f119@Stream> References: <20161214233833.67e016d1@Stream> <20161214235204.2b5a4793@sleipner.datanom.net> <20161215220445.65c1f119@Stream> Message-ID: <20161215223122.1aa80728@sleipner.datanom.net> On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 22:04:44 +0100 francesco scaglione wrote: > > Thanks for your reply, Michael! So you think I should try to use > unix2dos on the configuration files of the Debian Claws Mail? > It is worth a try just remember to use it on a copy of the configuration files. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: Enzymes are things invented by biologists that explain things which otherwise require harder thinking. -- Jerome Lettvin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It's a German company, but because of their many connections to the USA (one big data center in Kansas, GMX owns mail.ocm from Philadelphia, PSI-USA of LAs Vegas, and the UK/USA sedo.com, and parent company United Internet has subsidiary in the USA too [see wikipedia United_Internet] ) i don't entrust them with private mail anymore. I switched to small startup posteo.de which is 1 buck / month but puts a lot of effort into privacy and security. I believe there is no "free" (as in beer) email provider who does not store, profile, and market your data. Especially not google. From lists at lazygranch.com Fri Dec 16 11:57:59 2016 From: lists at lazygranch.com (lists at lazygranch.com) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 02:57:59 -0800 Subject: [Users] Best free e-mail service that works with Claws Mail by POP3 In-Reply-To: <20161216111834.532c683f@mirrors.kernel.org> References: <20161209204234.4bfb26b6@Devil-Bonobo> <20161210122055.1a107133@anthra> <20161210165109.5435470.43606.18171@lazygranch.com> <20161216111834.532c683f@mirrors.kernel.org> Message-ID: <20161216105759.5435470.55036.18546@lazygranch.com> Reading their "news", posteo looks very good. I guess I need to get my act together and figure out how to set up DNSSEC/DANE on my server. I have every anti-spoofing feature just short of DANE working. To elaborate a bit, the Posteo Web interface will indicate if the mail comes from a DANE enabled server. (DANE prevents DNS spoofing. ) In addition, Posteo can force TLS. ‎Most email serves are set up so that the incoming mail "may" be encrypted, but this is not forced. Now I am assuming Posteo bounces any message where TLS wasn't available. Note there is this man in the middle attack knows as TLS Stripping that interferes with TLS in a way to force the email server to choose plain text if the "may" option is set. On paper, Posteo looks very good. The darling of the not-free email these days supposedly is Proton Mail. I so want to say for the record that I don't like email services that provide a web interface. The problem is these kind of security features don't exist on an email client. I joined the claws list initially to see if there was a way to make Claws check SPF and DKIM. That would be a great feature, also with displaying if TLS was used. This is not trivial since email headers have much variety. Original Message From: Michael Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 2:19 AM To: users at lists.claws-mail.org Subject: Re: [Users] Best free e-mail service that works with Claws Mail by POP3 I'm using GMX accounts since many years, and yes, they got some amount of SPAM, but they have good custom SPAM filtering feature in their web interface, and anyway claws is good with that too ... aside from that, GMX works just fine in every respect. It's a German company, but because of their many connections to the USA (one big data center in Kansas, GMX owns mail.ocm from Philadelphia, PSI-USA of LAs Vegas, and the UK/USA sedo.com, and parent company United Internet has subsidiary in the USA too [see wikipedia United_Internet] ) i don't entrust them with private mail anymore. I switched to small startup posteo.de which is 1 buck / month but puts a lot of effort into privacy and security. I believe there is no "free" (as in beer) email provider who does not store, profile, and market your data. Especially not google. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users at lists.claws-mail.org http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users From rhutter at posteo.de Fri Dec 16 16:20:42 2016 From: rhutter at posteo.de (Ralf Hutter) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 16:20:42 +0100 Subject: [Users] Best free e-mail service that works with Claws Mail by POP3 In-Reply-To: <20161216105759.5435470.55036.18546@lazygranch.com> References: <20161209204234.4bfb26b6@Devil-Bonobo> <20161210122055.1a107133@anthra> <20161210165109.5435470.43606.18171@lazygranch.com> <20161216111834.532c683f@mirrors.kernel.org> <20161216105759.5435470.55036.18546@lazygranch.com> Message-ID: <20161216162042.155c49f5@Trisdesk> On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 02:57:59 -0800 lists at lazygranch.com wrote: > Reading their "news", posteo looks very good. I guess I need to get > my act together and figure out how to set up DNSSEC/DANE on my > server. I have every anti-spoofing feature just short of DANE > working. > > To elaborate a bit, the Posteo Web interface will indicate if the > mail comes from a DANE enabled server. (DANE prevents DNS spoofing. ) > > In addition, Posteo can force TLS. ‎Most email serves are set up so > that the incoming mail "may" be encrypted, but this is not forced. > Now I am assuming Posteo bounces any message where TLS wasn't > available. Note there is this man in the middle attack knows as TLS > Stripping that interferes with TLS in a way to force the email server > to choose plain text if the "may" option is set. > > On paper, Posteo looks very good. > > The darling of the not-free email these days supposedly is Proton > Mail. > > I so want to say for the record that I don't like email services that > provide a web interface. The problem is these kind of security > features don't exist on an email client. > > I joined the claws list initially to see if there was a way to make > Claws check SPF and DKIM. That would be a great feature, also with > displaying if TLS was used. This is not trivial since email headers > have much variety. > > Original Message > From: Michael > Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 2:19 AM > To: users at lists.claws-mail.org > Subject: Re: [Users] Best free e-mail service that works with Claws > Mail by POP3 > > I'm using GMX accounts since many years, and yes, they got some > amount of SPAM, but they have good custom SPAM filtering feature in > their web interface, and anyway claws is good with that too ... aside > from that, GMX works just fine in every respect. > > It's a German company, but because of their many connections to the > USA (one big data center in Kansas, GMX owns mail.ocm from > Philadelphia, PSI-USA of LAs Vegas, and the UK/USA sedo.com, and > parent company United Internet has subsidiary in the USA too [see > wikipedia United_Internet] ) i don't entrust them with private mail > anymore. I switched to small startup posteo.de which is 1 buck / > month but puts a lot of effort into privacy and security. I believe > there is no "free" (as in beer) email provider who does not store, > profile, and market your data. Especially not google. > Right, you can configure Posteo (with one click) to not send an email if the receiving server allows unencrypted email connection, which would make man-in-the-middle-attacks possible. When they introduced this feature a few months ago, they found out and made public soon that some big german institutions don't (or didn't at that time) offer this forced encryption, which is not a new technology. One example was the domain of the Social Democratic Party. I myself have encountered the problem with 2 different institutions whose domains belong to the spanish government. Posteo is also important in that it makes good press work in favour of email security. Last week they even were the first email provider to get a certificate by the german state for "Secure Email Transport". Regarding all of those privacy violations going on with other email providers - Yahoo has just again broken its own record: https://www.yahoo.com/news/yahoo-says-hackers-stole-information-221214183.html Here the case that became public a few months ago: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-yahoo-nsa-exclusive-idUSKCN1241YT I recommend you don't use just any free email service. Look for the ones with privacy sensitivity, like Posteo. Look for example here: https://www.systemli.org/en/friends.html https://riseup.net/en/security/resources/radical-servers Good luck! Ralf -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Dec 17 22:30:45 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 21:30:45 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3748] IMAP errors prevent mails from being sent In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3748 --- Comment #1 from Paul --- right-click, choose 'select all', Ctrl+C - you have copied it -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Dec 17 23:52:04 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 22:52:04 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3743] Tags are not saved In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3743 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|Folders |Folders/IMAP Severity|major |normal -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Dec 18 00:03:46 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 23:03:46 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3744] Crash upon deleting tags In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3744 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|UI/Message List |Folders/IMAP -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From rdmyers.42 at gmail.com Sun Dec 18 16:23:15 2016 From: rdmyers.42 at gmail.com (Rodney D. Myers) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 10:23:15 -0500 Subject: [Users] Claws crash and move/delete email Message-ID: <20161218102315.60c59807@gmail.com> Had a computer lockup this weekend. Now when I attempt to delete or mark as spam and have email moved, I keep getting a popup asking for my permission to perform such a move. I think this has been asked in the past, but the online archives to no allow an efficient way to search please see attached pic, if it makes it through the list server Thank you -- Rodney D. Myers - kg6anx They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: claws.png Type: image/png Size: 119650 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 528 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From subscript at free.fr Sun Dec 18 16:56:52 2016 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 16:56:52 +0100 Subject: [Users] Claws crash and move/delete email In-Reply-To: <20161218102315.60c59807@gmail.com> References: <20161218102315.60c59807@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20161218165652.4edf1cfe@anthra> Hello Rodney, On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 10:23:15 -0500 "Rodney D. Myers" wrote: > Had a computer lockup this weekend. Now when I attempt to delete or > mark as spam and have email moved, I keep getting a popup asking for my > permission to perform such a move. I think this has been asked in the > past, but the online archives to no allow an efficient way to search > > please see attached pic, if it makes it through the list server And what about the crash? Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From rdmyers.42 at gmail.com Sun Dec 18 17:41:07 2016 From: rdmyers.42 at gmail.com (Rodney D. Myers) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 11:41:07 -0500 Subject: [Users] Claws crash and move/delete email In-Reply-To: <20161218165652.4edf1cfe@anthra> References: <20161218102315.60c59807@gmail.com> <20161218165652.4edf1cfe@anthra> Message-ID: <20161218114107.1d95bace@gmail.com> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 16:56:52 +0100 wwp wrote: > Hello Rodney, > > > On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 10:23:15 -0500 "Rodney D. Myers" > wrote: > > > Had a computer lockup this weekend. Now when I attempt to delete or > > mark as spam and have email moved, I keep getting a popup asking > > for my permission to perform such a move. I think this has been > > asked in the past, but the online archives to no allow an efficient > > way to search > > > > please see attached pic, if it makes it through the list server > > And what about the crash? Came downstairs to the sound of a hard drive clicking. HD puked. I had a backup, using rsync. which I restored. It appears that all permissions are correctly set -- Rodney D. Myers - kg6anx They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That should do it! with regards Paul From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Dec 19 12:36:43 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 11:36:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3742] Attaching file with plus sign in filename via drag and drop doesn't work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3742 Andrej Kacian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #2 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2016-12-18 22:36:03.205175658 +0100 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=9ffaf9545ec7c28d4504de5c38d23f693db8edb4 Merge: affeb66 22d94ce Author: Colin Leroy Date: Sun Dec 18 22:36:02 2016 +0100 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=22d94ce01f95c50998c3dd8b60a368862a1d3e62 Author: Andrej Kacian Date: Sun Dec 18 22:34:44 2016 +0100 Do not strip plus sign when drag&drop attaching files. Closes bug #3742. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From rdmyers.42 at gmail.com Mon Dec 19 17:02:45 2016 From: rdmyers.42 at gmail.com (Rodney D. Myers) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 11:02:45 -0500 Subject: [Users] Claws crash and move/delete email In-Reply-To: <20161218165232.002b8f65@kujata> References: <20161218102315.60c59807@gmail.com> <20161218165232.002b8f65@kujata> Message-ID: <20161219110245.5dd0b709@gmail.com> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 16:52:32 +0000 Paul wrote: > Use /Tools/Execute to process the marks. > > Go to /Configuration/Preferences/DIsplay/Summaries and set the > 'Execute immediately when...' option. > > That should do it! That did it. Any idea why that "option" gets reset after a crash? This is not the first time this happened, Usually replace the clawsrc usually fixes it -- Rodney D. Myers - kg6anx They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From edwardp at linuxmail.org Wed Dec 21 03:43:52 2016 From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 21:43:52 -0500 Subject: [Users] Unable to delete IMAP sub-folders Message-ID: <20161220214352.1d0606f0@upstairs.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> ISP is Comcast (U.S.). For one of my e-mail accounts, two sub-folders unexpectedly appeared under the Trash folder, Archives/2016. I do not know where these came from, they are not listed for folders when using their web interface and when I try to delete them in Claws, a pop-up appears that they cannot be deleted. In Thunderbird, they can be deleted, but when it is launched again, the folders re-appear. Is there any possible way of deleting them? I tried deleting the account then recreating it, but that had no effect. Thanks in advance. From andrej at kacian.sk Wed Dec 21 08:57:25 2016 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 08:57:25 +0100 Subject: [Users] Unable to delete IMAP sub-folders In-Reply-To: <20161220214352.1d0606f0@upstairs.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <20161220214352.1d0606f0@upstairs.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20161221085725.71be189e@penny> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 21:43:52 -0500 wrote: > ISP is Comcast (U.S.). For one of my e-mail accounts, two sub-folders > unexpectedly appeared under the Trash folder, Archives/2016. I do not > know where these came from, they are not listed for folders when using > their web interface and when I try to delete them in Claws, a pop-up > appears that they cannot be deleted. > > In Thunderbird, they can be deleted, but when it is launched again, the > folders re-appear. > > Is there any possible way of deleting them? I tried deleting the > account then recreating it, but that had no effect. Hi, what happens when you right-click your IMAP top level folder, and select "Check for new folders", or "Rebuild folder tree"? That should help getting rid of folders that aren't really there. Regards, -- Andrej From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Dec 21 10:24:44 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 09:24:44 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3738] UI frequently hangs when clicking on a folder or a message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3738 --- Comment #9 from johannes at selfnet.de --- any news? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From edwardp at linuxmail.org Wed Dec 21 14:24:21 2016 From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 08:24:21 -0500 Subject: [Users] Unable to delete IMAP sub-folders In-Reply-To: <20161221085725.71be189e@penny> References: <20161220214352.1d0606f0@upstairs.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20161221085725.71be189e@penny> Message-ID: <20161221082421.196cfee1@downstairs> On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 08:57:25 +0100 Andrej Kacian wrote: > Hi, what happens when you right-click your IMAP top level folder, and > select "Check for new folders", or "Rebuild folder tree"? That should > help getting rid of folders that aren't really there. > > Regards, Hi Andrej, Initially, Claws correctly displayed the main Trash folder, as I never did a folder refresh with it, but in selecting Rebuild Folder Tree, it then added in the two sub-folders. I have separately sent an inquiry to Comcast to find out where the folders came from and why I'm not seeing them on their web-based interface. From andrej at kacian.sk Wed Dec 21 14:41:52 2016 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 14:41:52 +0100 Subject: [Users] Unable to delete IMAP sub-folders In-Reply-To: <20161221082421.196cfee1@downstairs> References: <20161220214352.1d0606f0@upstairs.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20161221085725.71be189e@penny> <20161221082421.196cfee1@downstairs> Message-ID: <20161221144142.00005770@kacian.sk> On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 08:24:21 -0500 wrote: > On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 08:57:25 +0100 > Andrej Kacian wrote: > > > > Hi, what happens when you right-click your IMAP top level folder, > > and select "Check for new folders", or "Rebuild folder tree"? That > > should help getting rid of folders that aren't really there. > > > > Regards, > > Hi Andrej, > > Initially, Claws correctly displayed the main Trash folder, as I never > did a folder refresh with it, but in selecting Rebuild Folder Tree, it > then added in the two sub-folders. > > I have separately sent an inquiry to Comcast to find out where the > folders came from and why I'm not seeing them on their web-based > interface. If the folders are still there after this rebuild, then they really are on the IMAP server - or at least the server says to Claws Mail that they are. You can verify that in the network log, which records exact IMAP responses from the server. Regards, -- Andrej From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Dec 21 16:23:03 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 15:23:03 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3749] New: Claws-mail 3.14.1 only runs with LD_PRELOAD=/lib64/libpthread.so.0 Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3749 Bug ID: 3749 Summary: Claws-mail 3.14.1 only runs with LD_PRELOAD=/lib64/libpthread.so.0 Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.14.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Other Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: fragabr at gmail.com I'm not sure if it is exactly a bug, but I decided to report just in case. This happens just with Claws (all other GTK2 apps run fine...). Claws-mail 3.14.1 was running fine (on Linux). Then I made a massive clean up on my system, a huge upgrade and now I'm left with Claws stalling at the start (details below). The workaround was to preload libpthread: LD_PRELOAD=/lib64/libpthread.so.0 claws-mail so it seems I'm having a problem linking libpthread. Running it with strace gives me different results each time: 1) fails with "tpp.c:84: __pthread_tpp_change_priority: Assertion `new_prio == -1 || (new_prio >= fifo_min_prio && new_prio <= fifo_max_prio)" open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/messages.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/messages.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) futex(0x7f74ad5e0468, 0x81 /* FUTEX_??? */, 2147483647) = 0 open("/usr/local/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/gtk20.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/local/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/gtk20.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) futex(0x7f74abcc50a8, 0x81 /* FUTEX_??? */, 2147483647) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGPIPE, {SIG_IGN}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 futex(0x7f74ad5e0468, 0x81 /* FUTEX_??? */, 2147483647) = 0 sched_getparam(11701, { 0 }) = 0 sched_getscheduler(11701) = 0 (SCHED_OTHER) sched_get_priority_max(SCHED_FIFO) = 99 sched_get_priority_min(SCHED_FIFO) = 1 write(2, "claws-mail: tpp.c:84: __pthread_"..., 148claws-mail: tpp.c:84: __pthread_tpp_change_priority: Assertion `new_prio == -1 || (new_prio >= fifo_min_prio && new_prio <= fifo_max_prio)' failed. ) = 148 mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x7f74b46a1000 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [ABRT], NULL, 8) = 0 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, ~[RTMIN RT_1], [], 8) = 0 getpid() = 11701 gettid() = 11701 tgkill(11701, 11701, SIGABRT) = 0 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0 --- SIGABRT (Aborted) @ 0 (0) --- +++ killed by SIGABRT +++ Process 11701 detached *** 2) stalls at FUTEX: access("/usr/xorg/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/XLC_LOCALE", R_OK) = 0 open("/usr/xorg/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/XLC_LOCALE", O_RDONLY) = 4 fstat(4, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=4250, ...}) = 0 read(4, "\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n"..., 4096) = 4096 read(4, " \n#\tcs20 class\ncs15\t{\n\tside\t\tGR\n"..., 4096) = 154 read(4, "", 4096) = 0 close(4) = 0 getresuid([501], [501], [501]) = 0 getresgid([100], [100], [100]) = 0 open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/messages.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/messages.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) futex(0x7f450702a468, 0x81 /* FUTEX_??? */, 2147483647) = 0 open("/usr/local/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/gtk20.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/local/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/gtk20.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) futex(0x7f450570f0a8, 0x81 /* FUTEX_??? */, 2147483647) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGPIPE, {SIG_IGN}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 futex(0x7f450702a468, 0x81 /* FUTEX_??? */, 2147483647) = 0 futex(0x2322250, FUTEX_WAIT, 2, NULL 3) stalls at rt_sigsuspend: open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/messages.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/messages.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) futex(0x7f97589a8468, 0x81 /* FUTEX_??? */, 2147483647) = 0 open("/usr/local/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/gtk20.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/local/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/gtk20.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) futex(0x7fff0737157c, 0x7 /* FUTEX_??? */, 0) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted) futex(0x7f975708d0a8, 0x81 /* FUTEX_??? */, 2147483647) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGPIPE, {SIG_IGN}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 futex(0x7f97589a8468, 0x81 /* FUTEX_??? */, 2147483647) = 0 futex(0x269d250, 0x6 /* FUTEX_??? */, 1) = -1 EDEADLK (Resource deadlock avoided) rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0 rt_sigsuspend([] *** Here's the output of ldd (as you can see, libpthread is here): linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007fff4e6c1000) libcrypt.so.1 => /lib64/libcrypt.so.1 (0x00007f11b05a9000) libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f11afe79000) libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f11afba1000) libatk-1.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0 (0x00007f11af97b000) libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 (0x00007f11af76d000) libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 (0x00007f11af556000) libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f11af32b000) libcairo.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/libcairo.so.2 (0x00007f11aefdd000) libpixman-1.so.0 => /usr/xorg/lib64/libpixman-1.so.0 (0x00007f11aed14000) libxcb-shm.so.0 => /usr/xorg/lib64/libxcb-shm.so.0 (0x00007f11aeb11000) libxcb-render.so.0 => /usr/xorg/lib64/libxcb-render.so.0 (0x00007f11ae903000) libXrender.so.1 => /usr/xorg/lib64/libXrender.so.1 (0x00007f11ae6f9000) libXext.so.6 => /usr/xorg/lib64/libXext.so.6 (0x00007f11ae4e4000) libpango-1.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0 (0x00007f11ae291000) libgthread-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f11ae08f000) libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/xorg/lib64/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x00007f11ade3b000) libexpat.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libexpat.so.1 (0x00007f11adc0c000) libpng16.so.16 => /usr/local/lib/libpng16.so.16 (0x00007f11ad9d0000) libharfbuzz.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libharfbuzz.so.0 (0x00007f11ad766000) libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x00007f11ad490000) libgnutls.so.30 => /usr/local/lib/libgnutls.so.30 (0x00007f11ad167000) libidn.so.11 => /usr/local/lib/libidn.so.11 (0x00007f11acf33000) libtasn1.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libtasn1.so.6 (0x00007f11acd1f000) libnettle.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/../lib64/libnettle.so.6 (0x00007f11acae3000) libhogweed.so.4 => /usr/local/lib/../lib64/libhogweed.so.4 (0x00007f11ac8ae000) libgmp.so.10 => /usr/local/lib/libgmp.so.10 (0x00007f11ac628000) libSM.so.6 => /usr/xorg/lib64/libSM.so.6 (0x00007f11ac41f000) libICE.so.6 => /usr/xorg/lib64/libICE.so.6 (0x00007f11ac202000) libstartup-notification-1.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libstartup-notification-1.so.0 (0x00007f11abff8000) libxcb-util.so.1 => /usr/xorg/lib64/libxcb-util.so.1 (0x00007f11abdf2000) libX11-xcb.so.1 => /usr/xorg/lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1 (0x00007f11abbf0000) libX11.so.6 => /usr/xorg/lib64/libX11.so.6 (0x00007f11ab89f000) libxcb.so.1 => /usr/xorg/lib64/libxcb.so.1 (0x00007f11ab677000) libpthread-stubs.so.0 => /usr/xorg/lib64/libpthread-stubs.so.0 (0x00007f11ab475000) libXau.so.6 => /usr/xorg/lib64/libXau.so.6 (0x00007f11ab271000) libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/xorg/lib64/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x00007f11ab06b000) libdbus-glib-1.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/libdbus-glib-1.so.2 (0x00007f11aae40000) libgio-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libgio-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f11aaa91000) libgmodule-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f11aa88d000) libmount.so.1 => /lib64/libmount.so.1 (0x00007f11aa645000) libblkid.so.1 => /lib64/libblkid.so.1 (0x00007f11aa403000) libuuid.so.1 => /lib64/libuuid.so.1 (0x00007f11aa1ff000) librt.so.1 => /lib64/librt.so.1 (0x00007f11a9ff7000) libdbus-1.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libdbus-1.so.3 (0x00007f11a9da0000) libgobject-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f11a9b4c000) libffi.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/../lib64/libffi.so.6 (0x00007f11a9941000) libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f11a9618000) libpcre.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.1 (0x00007f11a93d2000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib64/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007f11a91b5000) libetpan.so.17 => /usr/local/lib/libetpan.so.17 (0x00007f11a8ee2000) libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/../lib64/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00007f11a8b4c000) libm.so.6 => /lib64/libm.so.6 (0x00007f11a8851000) libdb-6.1.so => /usr/local/BerkeleyDB/lib/libdb-6.1.so (0x00007f11a8459000) libz.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1 (0x00007f11a8242000) libsasl2.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.3 (0x00007f11a8025000) libdl.so.2 => /lib64/libdl.so.2 (0x00007f11a7e21000) libresolv.so.2 => /lib64/libresolv.so.2 (0x00007f11a7c0a000) libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x00007f11a786c000) libXinerama.so.1 => /usr/xorg/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0x00007f11a7669000) libXrandr.so.2 => /usr/xorg/lib/libXrandr.so.2 (0x00007f11a745e000) libXcursor.so.1 => /usr/xorg/lib/libXcursor.so.1 (0x00007f11a7252000) libXcomposite.so.1 => /usr/xorg/lib/libXcomposite.so.1 (0x00007f11a704f000) libXdamage.so.1 => /usr/xorg/lib/libXdamage.so.1 (0x00007f11a6e4c000) libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/xorg/lib/libXfixes.so.3 (0x00007f11a6c46000) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f11b07e0000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/../lib64/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007f11a6a2e000) Output of --version-full: Claws Mail version 3.14.1 runtime GTK+ 2.24.31 / GLib 2.50.2 buildtime GTK+ 2.24.31 / GLib 2.50.2 Compiled-in features: GnuTLS IPv6 iconv libetpan 1.6 libSM I even tried to compile with debug symbols and run it through gdb, but since gdb complains about libpthread, the only way to run it is forcing gdb to preload the libpthread (so I can't figure it out why libpthread isn't being linked first of all). If it's not a bug, sorry about posting it here. I think it's interesting since other GTK2 apps don't show this behaviour. Or maybe I just broke something here. In this case you can close it and I will try the mailing list instead. Thanks! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Dec 21 18:30:54 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 17:30:54 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3749] Claws-mail 3.14.1 only runs with LD_PRELOAD=/lib64/libpthread.so.0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3749 --- Comment #1 from Michael Schwendt --- Just a note: The problem is specific to your installation. Discussing it on the mailing-list would have been the better decision. Don't forget giving more details about what kind of "massive clean up" and "huge upgrade" you've performed. Have you messed with glibc? That's where the tpp.c assertion comes from, btw. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Dec 21 18:58:09 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 17:58:09 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3749] Claws-mail 3.14.1 only runs with LD_PRELOAD=/lib64/libpthread.so.0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3749 D changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #2 from D --- Ok Michael, so I'm closing here and I'll post on the mailing list. Sorry about that. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From edwardp at linuxmail.org Wed Dec 21 21:10:41 2016 From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 15:10:41 -0500 Subject: [Users] Unable to delete IMAP sub-folders In-Reply-To: <20161221144142.00005770@kacian.sk> References: <20161220214352.1d0606f0@upstairs.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20161221085725.71be189e@penny> <20161221082421.196cfee1@downstairs> <20161221144142.00005770@kacian.sk> Message-ID: <20161221151041.71366468@upstairs.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 14:41:52 +0100 Andrej Kacian wrote: > If the folders are still there after this rebuild, then they really > are on the IMAP server - or at least the server says to Claws Mail > that they are. > > You can verify that in the network log, which records exact > IMAP responses from the server. > > Regards, Comcast tells me that they were unable to see the described sub-folders on the back end. But sometime today, since earlier this morning, the sub-folders have disappeared and are now not displayed by either Claws Mail or Thunderbird. They sent a link to a support article at Mozilla's web site https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1104644 that could be related to this, but since it pertains to Thunderbird, it doesn't explain why I saw the same sub-folders in Claws Mail. Ed From doark at mail.com Wed Dec 21 19:41:38 2016 From: doark at mail.com (doark at mail.com) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 13:41:38 -0500 Subject: [Users] Best free e-mail service that works with Claws Mail by POP3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20161221134138.0b2110ce@ulgy_thing> On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 07:31:20 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 09:16:33 -0500, David Niklas wrote: > >I use mail.com. Always have. There spam filtering is a bit unhelpful, > >but other then that they seem ok enough. > > For your free mail.com POP accounts there's no limit of the amount of > mails you are allowed to send per hour by smpt? I've sent at most 10-20 mails per hour (not huge I know), however, if you don't mind me spamming you I'll try 100 or however many you'd like :) > There at least was (and perhaps still is) such a limit for my account, > let alone that it's not that easy to get one with a German IP, since > they redirect to gmx.{de,at,ch}. > > In the past I preferred Rocketmail, aka Yahoo, nowadays I like Zoho. I > only have one Zoho address and still use my old Rocketmail addresses a > lot, but if I should need a new address I most likely would use Zoho. > As mentioned earlier, Rocketmail/Yahoo could cause issues with mailing > lists, Zoho is good for everything. I think I'll look into zoho (just in case I run into any problems with mail.com). > As also pointed out earlier, I > don't know anything about the security and privacy, I only refer to less > spam and unlimited POP access and sending by SMPT using Claws and that > the service is always available, neither I experienced blackhole > listing issues. I use their https:// site when logging in via web browser and I use STARTTLS for smtp and pop. I sometimes check for mail every minute, which they don't seem to mind. As for privacy, AFAIK, all email accounts are vulnerable via any of the worlds spying organizations. So, you'd do best to use GPG. As for spam getting through, well amazon send me adverts constantly, and sometimes I get an offer for a bank transfer, or one of the other new spam/fishing/malware attacks. I use spamassassin, it works very well. Sincerely, David From silver.bullet at zoho.com Thu Dec 22 09:58:24 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 09:58:24 +0100 Subject: [Users] Best free e-mail service that works with Claws Mail by POP3 In-Reply-To: <20161221134138.0b2110ce@ulgy_thing> References: <20161221134138.0b2110ce@ulgy_thing> Message-ID: <20161222095824.7bccc7e9@utnubu> On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 13:41:38 -0500, doark at mail.com wrote: >> For your free mail.com POP accounts there's no limit of the amount of >> mails you are allowed to send per hour by smpt? >I've sent at most 10-20 mails per hour (not huge I know), however, if >you don't mind me spamming you I'll try 100 or however many you'd >like :) No, thank you, I do mind ;). From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Dec 22 19:21:54 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 18:21:54 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3734] undefined symbol error with flex-2.6.2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3734 --- Comment #1 from Ashish Gupta --- Hi I cannot reproduce this issue with flex-2.6.2 $ flex --version flex 2.6.2 vcalendar plugin loads fine for me. I just did a ./configure && make -j8 Do you configure in a different way? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Dec 22 19:44:45 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 18:44:45 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3734] undefined symbol error with flex-2.6.2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3734 --- Comment #2 from Paul --- I can reproduce this with a clean build tree. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Dec 26 17:26:57 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 16:26:57 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3750] New: Enhancement for high dpi display Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3750 Bug ID: 3750 Summary: Enhancement for high dpi display Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail (Windows) Version: 3.14.1 Hardware: PC OS: Windows 10 Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: default Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: mystara at me.com Please support rendering for high dpi display (fonts and icons). blogs.windows.com/buildingapps/2016/10/24/high-dpi-scaling-improvements-for-desktop-applications-and-mixed-mode-dpi-scaling-in-the-windows-10-anniversary-update/ -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Dec 26 20:39:45 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 19:39:45 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3750] Enhancement for high dpi display In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3750 --- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian --- That's not going to be easy. GTK4 has gotten HiDPI support on Windows recently, and I think it barely made it in time for last GTK3 release, but we're using GTK2, which is not really developed anymore, so HiDPI support would have to be backported, which may not even be possible. I'm not sure GTK2 even has HiDPI support on Unix (X11/Wayland). See also: http://anzwix.com/a/GTK/GDKWin3240EnableHiDPISupportForWindows https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=768081 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Dec 27 13:38:57 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 12:38:57 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3733] Claws mail changed protocol for all my IMAP accounts to POP3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3733 --- Comment #15 from Adam Nielsen --- Just for the record I experienced this problem when Arch Linux upgraded me from 3.14.0 to 3.14.1. I haven't run any other versions so not sure if this means Arch mislabelled one of the versions or what. The accounts still worked as IMAP, but they showed as POP and I kept getting errors saying the POP server was unavailable (despite being able to read and move e-mail on those accounts via IMAP.) Changing "protocol=0" to "protocol=1" in accountrc as suggested did fix the problem for me - now the accounts are showing as IMAP again and the POP errors have gone away. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Dec 27 13:55:14 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 12:55:14 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3733] Claws mail changed protocol for all my IMAP accounts to POP3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3733 --- Comment #16 from Paul --- (In reply to comment #15) > Just for the record I experienced this problem when Arch Linux upgraded me > from 3.14.0 to 3.14.1. That's not possible, unless Arch Linux has some weird policy regarding patches, versioning, etc. That could only happen if you upgraded to 3.14.x and then downgraded to 3.13.2 or lower. Upgrading from 3.14.0 to 3.14.1 could never cause that. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Dec 27 14:07:33 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:07:33 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3733] Claws mail changed protocol for all my IMAP accounts to POP3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3733 --- Comment #17 from Paul --- Yes, it's an Arch Linux packager error. See the tarballs here: https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/commit/trunk?h=packages/claws-mail&id=7069252d132437450f95c2718572298f83533247 trunk/PKGBUILD is correct repos/extra-1686/PKGBUILD is incorrect repos/extra-X86_64/PKGBUILD is incorrect -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From cae at eslrahc.com Wed Dec 28 03:08:41 2016 From: cae at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 21:08:41 -0500 Subject: [Users] Build fails with 3.14.1-86-gb2b913e Message-ID: <20161227210841.31e1ef81@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> Trying to build the latest from git 3.14.1-86-gb2b913e fails in compose.c Changes were made to that file in commits 81-g66d2176 and 82-g0372b28. The failure error I receive is -I/usr/include/enchant -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include -MT compose.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/compose.Tpo -c -o compose.o compose.c compose.c: In function 'compose_template_apply_fields_error': compose.c:8673:2: error: format not a string literal and no format arguments [-Werror=format-security] alertpanel_error(text); ^ cc1: some warnings being treated as errors Makefile:1473: recipe for target 'compose.o' failed make[4]: *** [compose.o] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory '/charles/charles/rpmbuild/BUILD/claws/src' make[4]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... The build continues but fails completely after a good many more lines make[4]: Leaving directory '/charles/charles/rpmbuild/BUILD/claws/src' Makefile:1533: recipe for target 'all-recursive' failed make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Makefile:1223: recipe for target 'all' failed make[2]: *** [all] Error 2 Makefile:766: recipe for target 'all-recursive' failed make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Makefile:541: recipe for target 'all' failed make: *** [all] Error 2 error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.DnMSDx (%build) RPM build errors: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.DnMSDx (%build) Charles -- "If you own a machine, you are in turn owned by it, and spend your time serving it..." -- Marion Zimmer Bradley, _The Forbidden Tower_ ---------------------- Mageia release 6 (Cauldron) for x86_64$ On SuperSize....http://www.eslrahc.com Registered Linux user #182463 4.9.0-tmb-desktop-1.mga6 x86_64 ---------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In your pasted output: > [-Werror=format-security] > some warnings being treated as errors Without the setting that you are using warnings would be treated as warnings, and the build would succeed. with regards Paul From ashmew2 at gmail.com Wed Dec 28 21:05:25 2016 From: ashmew2 at gmail.com (Ashish Gupta) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:05:25 +0100 Subject: [Users] [PATCH] Summaryview option: Move when item marked read Message-ID: <20161228210525.4baa33f7@h4xX0r-r3b0rn> Add a toggle option to Summaries for moving when marking an item read Useful if you only use a keyboard for navigation (Shift + R mapped to Mark > Read), automatically move to the next item in the list (respecting sort direction, ascending or descending) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <20161228151327.18735a37@DZ> References: <20161228151327.18735a37@DZ> Message-ID: <20161228212808.2fcae56c@anthra> Hello David, On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 15:13:27 -0500 David Burleigh wrote: > Is there any plugin that makes it easy to automatically delete > (permanently, not to the Trash) emails coming from particular addresses > or domains? I'd say that you can easily do it using filtering rules, if the "particular addresses" are in your address book or the "domains" known by you. Filtering rules can check if the sender/recipient is in a particular address book or subfolder; filtering rules can match recipients against one or several domains (tip: using regexps to match all at once or using several matching rules), and filtering rules can delete. Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <20161228212808.2fcae56c@anthra> References: <20161228151327.18735a37@DZ> <20161228212808.2fcae56c@anthra> Message-ID: <20161228211111.3d68b1eb@debian> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:28:08 +0100 wwp wrote: > Hello David, > > > On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 15:13:27 -0500 David Burleigh wrote: > > > Is there any plugin that makes it easy to automatically delete > > (permanently, not to the Trash) emails coming from particular addresses > > or domains? > > I'd say that you can easily do it using filtering rules, if the > "particular addresses" are in your address book or the "domains" known > by you. > > Filtering rules can check if the sender/recipient is in a particular > address book or subfolder; filtering rules can match recipients against > one or several domains (tip: using regexps to match all at once or > using several matching rules), and filtering rules can delete. > > > Regards, This works, but only if you haven't already marked the address as spam. The spam filter comes before the user defined ones. -- W J G From david.burleigh at gmx.com Wed Dec 28 22:18:13 2016 From: david.burleigh at gmx.com (David Burleigh) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:18:13 -0500 Subject: [Users] Blacklist? In-Reply-To: <20161228211111.3d68b1eb@debian> References: <20161228151327.18735a37@DZ> <20161228212808.2fcae56c@anthra> <20161228211111.3d68b1eb@debian> Message-ID: <20161228161813.484c99aa@DZ> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:11:11 +0000 Abrolag wrote: > On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:28:08 +0100 > wwp wrote: > > [...] > [...] > [...] > > This works, but only if you haven't already marked the address as > spam. The spam filter comes before the user defined ones. Ok, thank you to all. I'll dispense with Spam Assassin and just use filters. But it would be nice to have a plugin like "Mailwasher" that I used to use many years ago in Windows. -- David Burleigh 828-475-5126 From cae at eslrahc.com Wed Dec 28 22:25:27 2016 From: cae at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:25:27 -0500 Subject: [Users] Blacklist? In-Reply-To: <20161228161813.484c99aa@DZ> References: <20161228151327.18735a37@DZ> <20161228212808.2fcae56c@anthra> <20161228211111.3d68b1eb@debian> <20161228161813.484c99aa@DZ> Message-ID: <20161228162527.16ec607f@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:18:13 -0500 David Burleigh wrote: > > On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:28:08 +0100 > > wwp wrote: > > > > [...] > > [...] > > [...] > > > > This works, but only if you haven't already marked the address as > > spam. The spam filter comes before the user defined ones. > > Ok, thank you to all. I'll dispense with Spam Assassin and just use > filters. But it would be nice to have a plugin like "Mailwasher" that > I used to use many years ago in Windows. gmx offers you the ability to 'blacklist' "Stop junk mail today! Apart from our powerful spam filter, we give you the possibility to create a blacklist to block aggressive spammers which find their way through or senders you don’t want to see in your inbox anymore. With this protection, annoying spam is left behind and you are free to enjoy the internet!" use it and they will never make it to your claws Inbox. Charles -- I watch television because you don't know what it will do if you leave it in the room alone. ---------------------- Mageia release 6 (Cauldron) for x86_64$ On SuperSize....http://www.eslrahc.com Registered Linux user #182463 4.9.0-tmb-desktop-1.mga6 x86_64 ---------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Dec 28 23:24:36 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 22:24:36 +0000 Subject: [Users] Blacklist? In-Reply-To: <20161228161813.484c99aa@DZ> References: <20161228151327.18735a37@DZ> <20161228212808.2fcae56c@anthra> <20161228211111.3d68b1eb@debian> <20161228161813.484c99aa@DZ> Message-ID: <20161228222436.207de373@kujata> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:18:13 -0500 David Burleigh wrote: > Ok, thank you to all. I'll dispense with Spam Assassin and just use > filters. You can use spamassassin from filtering rather than the plugin. http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Filtering_and_Processing_of_Messages#How_do_I_configure_a_filter_for_running_SpamAssassin.3F with regards Paul From kieakl at ihug.co.nz Thu Dec 29 21:43:08 2016 From: kieakl at ihug.co.nz (kangaroo) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:43:08 +1300 Subject: [Users] nbox Message ordering, preview pane and attachment viewing In-Reply-To: <20161230004723.00006e58@ihug.co.nz> References: <20161230004723.00006e58@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <20161230094308.0000328c@ihug.co.nz> Hi, I'm using the win 64bit release and have a couple of questions, I'm new to claw mail so don't know if the first 2 of these questions are bugs or standard behaviour. When you move thru messages in the inbox by using the up / down arrows, the message info does not appear in the preview pane. Is this normal behaviour? You can only get the message contents to appear in the preview pane by clicking on a mail. When composing a message, I add a pdf attachment and then want to view that attachment before sending the mail. How can I view the attachment? I can only view the attachment after the mail is sent, not during the composition stage. How do you turn off received message (inbox) ordering? I want new messages received into the inbox to be ordered by date and time only, not to be ordered by the subject line or any other thread options. At the moment when I receive a reply to a message from a while ago, the reply gets sorted into that message thread whereas I just want it ordered as the last message received today. Thanks. From edodd55 at gmail.com Thu Dec 29 22:05:23 2016 From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 08:05:23 +1100 Subject: [Users] nbox Message ordering, preview pane and attachment viewing In-Reply-To: <20161230094308.0000328c@ihug.co.nz> References: <20161230004723.00006e58@ihug.co.nz> <20161230094308.0000328c@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <20161230080523.34aebba1.edodd55@gmail.com> On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:43:08 +1300 kangaroo wrote: > I'm new to claw mail so don't know if the first 2 of these questions > are bugs or standard behaviour. Just think about it this way..... Everything is configurable Look through the menus Configuration > preferences and View. Liz From kieakl at ihug.co.nz Thu Dec 29 22:44:33 2016 From: kieakl at ihug.co.nz (kangaroo) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:44:33 +1300 Subject: [Users] nbox Message ordering, preview pane and attachment viewing In-Reply-To: <20161230080523.34aebba1.edodd55@gmail.com> References: <20161230004723.00006e58@ihug.co.nz> <20161230094308.0000328c@ihug.co.nz> <20161230080523.34aebba1.edodd55@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20161230104433.00002bcb@ihug.co.nz> > Just think about it this way..... > > Everything is configurable > > Look through the menus Configuration > preferences > and View. > > Liz > Thanks but not really helpful. RTFM - first thing I did as well as trawl thru the archives. I have spent, on and off, 2 days looking at this. Yes, I have selected and unselected the various options for message view. Whilst these change the view for the current selected message (as does the various buttons to the right of the message view), when you move to the next message by using the up down arrows, the contents of the message view does not change. It still shows the last message looked at and does not change to show the contents of the next message highlighted (unless one clicks on the highlighted message or presses the enter key). From edodd55 at gmail.com Thu Dec 29 22:51:18 2016 From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 08:51:18 +1100 Subject: [Users] nbox Message ordering, preview pane and attachment viewing In-Reply-To: <20161230104433.00002bcb@ihug.co.nz> References: <20161230004723.00006e58@ihug.co.nz> <20161230094308.0000328c@ihug.co.nz> <20161230080523.34aebba1.edodd55@gmail.com> <20161230104433.00002bcb@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <20161230085118.20470ecb.edodd55@gmail.com> On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:44:33 +1300 kangaroo wrote: > > Just think about it this way..... > > > > Everything is configurable > > > > Look through the menus Configuration > preferences > > and View. > > > > Liz > > > Thanks but not really helpful. RTFM - first thing I did as well as > trawl thru the archives. I have spent, on and off, 2 days looking at > this. Yes, I have selected and unselected the various options for > message view. Whilst these change the view for the current selected > message (as does the various buttons to the right of the message > view), when you move to the next message by using the up down arrows, > the contents of the message view does not change. It still shows the > last message looked at and does not change to show the contents of > the next message highlighted (unless one clicks on the highlighted > message or presses the enter key). > _______________________________________________ I did it myself this morning Configuration > preferences > display > summaries > open message when selected > "Always" and I found the key in the mailing list, I'm not that smart ;) Liz From kieakl at ihug.co.nz Thu Dec 29 22:52:55 2016 From: kieakl at ihug.co.nz (kangaroo) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:52:55 +1300 Subject: [Users] nbox Message ordering, preview pane and attachment viewing In-Reply-To: <20161230104433.00002bcb@ihug.co.nz> References: <20161230004723.00006e58@ihug.co.nz> <20161230094308.0000328c@ihug.co.nz> <20161230080523.34aebba1.edodd55@gmail.com> <20161230104433.00002bcb@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <20161230105255.00004eb4@ihug.co.nz> Ahh, found how to sort the messages, it's under menu option view / message thread. So that is the 3rd question I asked resolved. On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:44:33 +1300 kangaroo wrote: > > > Just think about it this way..... > > > > Everything is configurable > > > > Look through the menus Configuration > preferences > > and View. > > > > Liz > > > Thanks but not really helpful. RTFM - first thing I did as well as trawl thru the archives. I have spent, on and off, 2 days looking at this. Yes, I have > selected and unselected the various options for message view. Whilst these change the view for the current selected message (as does the various buttons to > the right of the message view), when you move to the next message by using the up down arrows, the contents of the message view does not change. It still > shows the last message looked at and does not change to show the contents of the next message highlighted (unless one clicks on the highlighted message or > presses the enter key). > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users From kieakl at ihug.co.nz Thu Dec 29 22:56:56 2016 From: kieakl at ihug.co.nz (kangaroo) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:56:56 +1300 Subject: [Users] nbox Message ordering, preview pane and attachment viewing In-Reply-To: <20161230085118.20470ecb.edodd55@gmail.com> References: <20161230004723.00006e58@ihug.co.nz> <20161230094308.0000328c@ihug.co.nz> <20161230080523.34aebba1.edodd55@gmail.com> <20161230104433.00002bcb@ihug.co.nz> <20161230085118.20470ecb.edodd55@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20161230105656.00004035@ihug.co.nz> Thank you very much, got it now and so simple once known. 2 out of 3 resolved. On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 08:51:18 +1100 Liz wrote: > On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:44:33 +1300 > kangaroo wrote: > > > > Just think about it this way..... > > > > > > Everything is configurable > > > > > > Look through the menus Configuration > preferences > > > and View. > > > > > > Liz > > > > > Thanks but not really helpful. RTFM - first thing I did as well as > > trawl thru the archives. I have spent, on and off, 2 days looking at > > this. Yes, I have selected and unselected the various options for > > message view. Whilst these change the view for the current selected > > message (as does the various buttons to the right of the message > > view), when you move to the next message by using the up down arrows, > > the contents of the message view does not change. It still shows the > > last message looked at and does not change to show the contents of > > the next message highlighted (unless one clicks on the highlighted > > message or presses the enter key). > > _______________________________________________ > > I did it myself this morning > > Configuration > preferences > display > summaries > open message when > selected > "Always" > > and I found the key in the mailing list, I'm not that smart ;) > > > Liz > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users From edodd55 at gmail.com Thu Dec 29 23:27:43 2016 From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:27:43 +1100 Subject: [Users] nbox Message ordering, preview pane and attachment viewing In-Reply-To: <20161230094308.0000328c@ihug.co.nz> References: <20161230004723.00006e58@ihug.co.nz> <20161230094308.0000328c@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <20161230092743.4904f7d8.edodd55@gmail.com> On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:43:08 +1300 kangaroo wrote: > When composing a message, I add a pdf attachment and then want to > view that attachment before sending the mail. How can I view the > attachment? I can only view the attachment after the mail is sent, > not during the composition stage. I haven't found a simple way You can check the attachment by choosing the "Attachments" tab, right clicking on the properties and then copying the "path" for the attachment. In Linux I feed that into something that will choose a pdf reader for me (I could use CLI and go xpdf "path_to_the_pdf"). Windows - I don't know how you do that. Liz From abrolag at users.sourceforge.net Thu Dec 29 23:35:03 2016 From: abrolag at users.sourceforge.net (Abrolag) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 22:35:03 +0000 Subject: [Users] nbox Message ordering, preview pane and attachment viewing In-Reply-To: <20161230092743.4904f7d8.edodd55@gmail.com> References: <20161230004723.00006e58@ihug.co.nz> <20161230094308.0000328c@ihug.co.nz> <20161230092743.4904f7d8.edodd55@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20161229223503.1d935e54@debian> On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:27:43 +1100 Liz wrote: > On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:43:08 +1300 > kangaroo wrote: > > > When composing a message, I add a pdf attachment and then want to > > view that attachment before sending the mail. How can I view the > > attachment? I can only view the attachment after the mail is sent, > > not during the composition stage. > > I haven't found a simple way > You can check the attachment by choosing the "Attachments" tab, right > clicking on the properties and then copying the "path" for the > attachment. > In Linux I feed that into something that will choose a pdf > reader for me (I could use CLI and go xpdf "path_to_the_pdf"). > Windows - I don't know how you do that. > > > Liz Send it to yourself first. -- W J G From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Dec 29 23:47:10 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 22:47:10 +0000 Subject: [Users] nbox Message ordering, preview pane and attachment viewing In-Reply-To: <20161229223503.1d935e54@debian> References: <20161230004723.00006e58@ihug.co.nz> <20161230094308.0000328c@ihug.co.nz> <20161230092743.4904f7d8.edodd55@gmail.com> <20161229223503.1d935e54@debian> Message-ID: <20161229224710.4995c1be@kujata> On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 22:35:03 +0000 Abrolag wrote: > Send it to yourself first. Easier to queue it before sending and look at it there. with regards Paul From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Fri Dec 30 00:41:11 2016 From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:41:11 -0700 Subject: [Users] nbox Message ordering, preview pane and attachment viewing In-Reply-To: <20161230092743.4904f7d8.edodd55@gmail.com> References: <20161230004723.00006e58@ihug.co.nz> <20161230094308.0000328c@ihug.co.nz> <20161230092743.4904f7d8.edodd55@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20161229164111.3794b246@jhegaala.localdomain> On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:27:43 +1100 Liz wrote: > On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:43:08 +1300 > kangaroo wrote: > > > When composing a message, I add a pdf attachment and then want to > > view that attachment before sending the mail. How can I view the > > attachment? I can only view the attachment after the mail is sent, > > not during the composition stage. > > I haven't found a simple way > You can check the attachment by choosing the "Attachments" tab, right > clicking on the properties and then copying the "path" for the > attachment. > In Linux I feed that into something that will choose a pdf > reader for me (I could use CLI and go xpdf "path_to_the_pdf"). > Windows - I don't know how you do that. There is a plugin, PDF Viewer, available on Linux. Perhaps there is a Windows equivalent? This plugin enables the viewing of PDF and PostScript attachments using the Poppler 0.26.5 Lib and the gs tool. -- The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. -- U.S. Const. Amendment IV Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Fri Dec 30 00:44:23 2016 From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:44:23 -0700 Subject: [Users] nbox Message ordering, preview pane and attachment viewing In-Reply-To: <20161229164111.3794b246@jhegaala.localdomain> References: <20161230004723.00006e58@ihug.co.nz> <20161230094308.0000328c@ihug.co.nz> <20161230092743.4904f7d8.edodd55@gmail.com> <20161229164111.3794b246@jhegaala.localdomain> Message-ID: <20161229164423.2a608648@jhegaala.localdomain> On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:41:11 -0700 Charles Curley wrote: > There is a plugin, PDF Viewer, available on Linux. Perhaps there is a > Windows equivalent? > > This plugin enables the viewing of PDF and PostScript attachments > using the Poppler 0.26.5 Lib and the gs tool. Oops. This only works on incoming messages. Apologies. Possible enhancement???? -- The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. -- U.S. Const. Amendment IV Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Fri Dec 30 00:47:29 2016 From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:47:29 -0700 Subject: [Users] nbox Message ordering, preview pane and attachment viewing In-Reply-To: <20161229164423.2a608648@jhegaala.localdomain> References: <20161230004723.00006e58@ihug.co.nz> <20161230094308.0000328c@ihug.co.nz> <20161230092743.4904f7d8.edodd55@gmail.com> <20161229164111.3794b246@jhegaala.localdomain> <20161229164423.2a608648@jhegaala.localdomain> Message-ID: <20161229164729.657145d4@jhegaala.localdomain> On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:44:23 -0700 Charles Curley wrote: > Oops. This only works on incoming messages. Apologies. Except that the way to use it on the messages you are composing is to go to your "Drafts" directory and examine the message there. Saving it first would probably be a good idea. -- The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. -- U.S. Const. Amendment IV Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB From jjhung88 at hotmail.com Fri Dec 30 09:37:09 2016 From: jjhung88 at hotmail.com (Jackie Hung) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 08:37:09 +0000 Subject: [Users] won't go to newest downloaded email Message-ID: I cannot find a way so that the newest unread email downloaded is automatically selected. It always select some older mail that was last highlighted, causing me to read very old email sometimes when I didn't pay attention to scroll down to the bottom find the newest mail. 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URL: From ricardo at mones.org Fri Dec 30 10:10:42 2016 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:10:42 +0100 Subject: [Users] how to automatically display html In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20161230091042.GA30166@busgosu.mones.org> On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 09:05:57AM +0000, Jackie Hung wrote: > I have the windows version and installed fancy, but html email will > show as text. I have to click on the text/html icon on the right to > display it correctly. I checked the render html only message with > plugin if possible in the preference but still no change. anyone can > help? Try checking “Select the HTML part of multipart/alternative messages” in preferences' Message View/Text Options panel. It's just below the one you mentioned :) regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ Datei nicht gefunden Fehler 404 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From subscript at free.fr Fri Dec 30 10:14:11 2016 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:14:11 +0100 Subject: [Users] how to automatically display html In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20161230101411.7d3ad1b0@anthra> Hello Jackie, On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:05:57 +0000 Jackie Hung wrote: > I have the windows version and installed fancy, but html email will show as text. I have to click on the text/html icon on the right to display it correctly. I checked the render html only message with plugin if possible in the preference but still no change. anyone can help? You need to dig into the preferences.. Configuration/Preferences/Message View/Text Options/HTML messages Check: Render HTML-only messages with plugin if possible and possibly check: Select the HTML part of multipart/alternative messages See also per-folder properties, in where you can force this behaviour or another, for the selected folder only. Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From subscript at free.fr Fri Dec 30 10:17:37 2016 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:17:37 +0100 Subject: [Users] won't go to newest downloaded email In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20161230101737.7c86ea6e@anthra> Hello Jackie, On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 08:37:09 +0000 Jackie Hung wrote: > I cannot find a way so that the newest unread email downloaded is automatically selected. It always select some older mail that was last highlighted, causing me to read very old email sometimes when I didn't pay attention to scroll down to the bottom find the newest mail. Anyone know a command or some workaround? See Configuration/Preferences/Display/Summaries/Message list "Set default selection when entering a folder" You'll probably need "first new email" then "first unread email" on top of the right list. I think this is what you're looking for. Also make sure your folders are sorted by date, this may also help. You can sort every single folder by date or whatever you want (including the sort direction), and also set the default sort method for new folders in the preferences section mentioned above. Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 30 12:17:31 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:17:31 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3751] New: program crashes when scrolling quickly thru messages Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3751 Bug ID: 3751 Summary: program crashes when scrolling quickly thru messages Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail (Windows) Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Windows 10 Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: default Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: bugreport at vodafone.co.nz Created attachment 1705 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1705&action=edit gdp output of crash data Using the win64 version. I can get this to happen every time, select any mail in a folder then scroll up and down the list quickly using the arrow keys. After around 5 - 10 seconds of scrolling, the program will crash. I have various folders containing 100's to 1000's of emails, size of folder does not matter. Attached is the gdp output, happy to provide any testing required or any further information. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 30 13:50:45 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 12:50:45 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3751] program crashes when scrolling quickly thru messages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3751 --- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian --- Which version exactly are you using? You specified "GIT" in Version field of this bug, are you really building from a git snapshot, or are you in fact using one of the official Windows builds from claws-mail.org? Can you test whether this also happens on a 32-bit version? If you're going to try, please uninstall the previous version before installing a new one. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From kieakl at ihug.co.nz Fri Dec 30 14:11:36 2016 From: kieakl at ihug.co.nz (kangaroo) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 02:11:36 +1300 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3751] program crashes when scrolling quickly thru messages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20161231021136.00000c4c@ihug.co.nz> Version 3.14.1. I missed that setting, using the official windows build from claws-mail.org. Will uninstall and try and replicate with the 32 bit version. On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 12:50:45 +0000 noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3751 > > --- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian --- > Which version exactly are you using? You specified "GIT" in Version field of > this bug, are you really building from a git snapshot, or are you in fact using > one of the official Windows builds from claws-mail.org? > > Can you test whether this also happens on a 32-bit version? If you're going to > try, please uninstall the previous version before installing a new one. > From kieakl at ihug.co.nz Fri Dec 30 14:21:39 2016 From: kieakl at ihug.co.nz (kangaroo) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 02:21:39 +1300 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3751] program crashes when scrolling quickly thru messages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20161231022139.00004c96@ihug.co.nz> I cannot get the 32 bit version to crash using the same test. On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 12:50:45 +0000 noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3751 > > --- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian --- > Which version exactly are you using? You specified "GIT" in Version field of > this bug, are you really building from a git snapshot, or are you in fact using > one of the official Windows builds from claws-mail.org? > > Can you test whether this also happens on a 32-bit version? If you're going to > try, please uninstall the previous version before installing a new one. > From andrej at kacian.sk Fri Dec 30 15:30:49 2016 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 15:30:49 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3751] program crashes when scrolling quickly thru messages In-Reply-To: <20161231022139.00004c96@ihug.co.nz> References: <20161231022139.00004c96@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <20161230153049.1058cbf7@penny> On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 02:21:39 +1300 kangaroo wrote: > I cannot get the 32 bit version to crash using the same test. Thanks, you should probably stick to the 32-bit version for now, unless you need the 64-bit one for some reason (like appointments in distant future in vcalendar plugin, or something like that). One more test, if you don't mind. Please try: http://claws-mail.org/win32/test/claws-mail-3.14.1-2newcairo.exe That is same Claws Mail 3.14.1, but with latest cairo library. (We're keeping older cairo in official builds for now because of a performance issue: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71833 ) Regards, -- Andrej From kieakl at ihug.co.nz Fri Dec 30 22:38:54 2016 From: kieakl at ihug.co.nz (kangaroo) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 10:38:54 +1300 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3751] program crashes when scrolling quickly thru messages In-Reply-To: <20161230153049.1058cbf7@penny> References: <20161231022139.00004c96@ihug.co.nz> <20161230153049.1058cbf7@penny> Message-ID: <20161231103854.00003bbc@ihug.co.nz> I cannot get the 3.14.1-2newcairo release to crash by moving thru message lists. Will keep using this version, let me know if you want any beta testing on future 64 bit releases. On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 15:30:49 +0100 Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 02:21:39 +1300 > kangaroo wrote: > > > I cannot get the 32 bit version to crash using the same test. > > Thanks, you should probably stick to the 32-bit version for now, unless > you need the 64-bit one for some reason (like appointments in distant > future in vcalendar plugin, or something like that). > > One more test, if you don't mind. Please try: > http://claws-mail.org/win32/test/claws-mail-3.14.1-2newcairo.exe > > That is same Claws Mail 3.14.1, but with latest cairo library. > > (We're keeping older cairo in official builds for now because of a > performance issue: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71833 ) > > Regards, From andrej at kacian.sk Sat Dec 31 19:42:22 2016 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 19:42:22 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3751] program crashes when scrolling quickly thru messages In-Reply-To: <20161231103854.00003bbc@ihug.co.nz> References: <20161231022139.00004c96@ihug.co.nz> <20161230153049.1058cbf7@penny> <20161231103854.00003bbc@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <20161231194222.26834c60@penny> On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 10:38:54 +1300 kangaroo wrote: > I cannot get the 3.14.1-2newcairo release to crash by moving thru message lists. > Will keep using this version, let me know if you want any beta testing on future > 64 bit releases. Thanks, we might need to start using newer cairo whether we want or not, although users on Intel GPUs will probably not be happy with the slowness. -- Andrej From codejodler at gmx.ch Sat Dec 31 23:53:42 2016 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 23:53:42 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 20170101] Claws forwards Happy New Year message Message-ID: <20161231222559.0ac23090@mirrors.kernel.org> Happy New Year !