From h.m.brand at xs4all.nl  Mon Aug  1 08:08:44 2016
From: h.m.brand at xs4all.nl (H.Merijn Brand)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 08:08:44 +0200
Subject: [Users] sometimes claws forget the read-status of messages
In-Reply-To: <3s2YKT181Dz105h@submission01.posteo.de>
References: <3s2YKT181Dz105h@submission01.posteo.de>
Message-ID: <20160801080844.4bbae7f0@pc09.procura.nl>

On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 22:02:31 +0200, <c.buhtz at posteo.jp> wrote:

> Is there a way to "reset" everything claws knows about the (un)read
> status of its local stored messages? Is there a central file where this
> info is stored and I can delete it?

Right click on Mailbox in left pane and choose "Rebuild Folder Tree"

The same happens to me once in a while when running CM over a ssh with
X11 forwarding that is unreliable and times out.

-- 
H.Merijn Brand  http://tux.nl   Perl Monger  http://amsterdam.pm.org/
using perl5.00307 .. 5.23   porting perl5 on HP-UX, AIX, and openSUSE
http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/        http://www.test-smoke.org/
http://qa.perl.org   http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/
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From c.buhtz at posteo.jp  Mon Aug  1 12:40:07 2016
From: c.buhtz at posteo.jp (c.buhtz at posteo.jp)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:40:07 +0200
Subject: [Users] sometimes claws forget the read-status of messages
In-Reply-To: <20160731213609.7380b202@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <3s2YKT181Dz105h@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160731213609.7380b202@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <3s2wln30s5zyy6@submission01.posteo.de>

On 2016-07-31 21:36 Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:
> With POP/SMTP accounts, trying to sync status might be the root of
> your problems.

One part of it but not the root. Because in 90% of the cases it works
without problems - for years.
I don't sync only the "status" - I sync claws itself. Claws on machine
A is 100% the same (include all application settings e.g. window
position, toolbar, ...) as on B. ;)


From c.buhtz at posteo.jp  Mon Aug  1 12:42:51 2016
From: c.buhtz at posteo.jp (c.buhtz at posteo.jp)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:42:51 +0200
Subject: [Users] sometimes claws forget the read-status of messages
In-Reply-To: <20160801080844.4bbae7f0@pc09.procura.nl>
References: <3s2YKT181Dz105h@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801080844.4bbae7f0@pc09.procura.nl>
Message-ID: <3s2wpt4x3Rz105q@submission01.posteo.de>

Hi

On 2016-08-01 08:08 "H.Merijn Brand" <h.m.brand at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> Right click on Mailbox in left pane and choose "Rebuild Folder Tree"

I will check that in the next days.

And when it doesn't work I'll try to delete all .claws_cache
and .claws_mark files as Andrej mentioned.

> The same happens to me once in a while when running CM over a ssh with
> X11 forwarding that is unreliable and times out.

This sounds like a bug. Is it reported somewhere?

I didn't reported my situation because it is a very exotic use case
("same" claws on two machines). So I have to deal with it myself and I
don't earn support here. ;)


From ricardo at mones.org  Mon Aug  1 20:28:25 2016
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 20:28:25 +0200
Subject: [Users] Is Claws-mail supposed to automatically connect to
 imaps servers when not configured to?
In-Reply-To: <20160731124552.673b4557@kendramatic>
References: <20160731124552.673b4557@kendramatic>
Message-ID: <20160801202825.77c7b8bf@busgosu>

On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 12:45:52 -0700
jdebert <jdebert at garlic.com> wrote:

> Have Claws-mail 3.12.0, (opensuse build 3.12.0-7.1.x64). Using 3.10, I
> added gmail imaps accounts and set up claws-mail to never connect to
> them. 

How do you to that?

Because AFAIK just after setting an IMAP account up, it connects
immediately to the server to retrieve the folder tree.

> On upgrade to 3.11, no connections were made to gmail serves unless I
> manually initiated it. After upgrading, it never happened until the
> first manual connection to one gmail imaps server. Now, claws-mail
> connects to all the gmail servers and stays connected despite
> cancelling the connections when the tls cert complaint box pops up.

Which version of libetpan are you using?

> The setup has not changed, the option to never connect to imap servers
> is still set. I unset and set the option to never conenct to imap
> servers and it still happens. Is this supposed to happen? Or am I
> overlooking something?

Where's that option to "never connect to imap servers"? Do you refer to
"Scan for new mail" in toplevel folder properties or some other?

regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  The world will end in 5 minutes. Please log out.            Unknown

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Aug  1 23:08:27 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 22:08:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] sometimes claws forget the read-status of messages
In-Reply-To: <3s2wpt4x3Rz105q@submission01.posteo.de>
References: <3s2YKT181Dz105h@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801080844.4bbae7f0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <3s2wpt4x3Rz105q@submission01.posteo.de>
Message-ID: <20160801220827.36a4ae1a@kujata>

On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:42:51 +0200
<c.buhtz at posteo.jp> wrote: 

> And when it doesn't work I'll try to delete all .claws_cache
> and .claws_mark files as Andrej mentioned

Andrej didn't mention deleting them. I can't see how that would be
any solution to your problem. It looks very much to me like a local
problem. If you can find out what you're doing to cause this then you
can find out how to stop it. (I have never had this problem.)

with regards

Paul


From paulsteyn1 at afrihost.co.za  Mon Aug  1 23:24:44 2016
From: paulsteyn1 at afrihost.co.za (Paul Steyn)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 23:24:44 +0200
Subject: [Users] sometimes claws forget the read-status of messages
In-Reply-To: <20160801220827.36a4ae1a@kujata>
References: <3s2YKT181Dz105h@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801080844.4bbae7f0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <3s2wpt4x3Rz105q@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801220827.36a4ae1a@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160801232444.7676e5bb@afrihost.co.za>

Not sure if this is relevant to this particular situation, but I have
found that if I don't exit claws cleanly, it sets a bunch of mails to
"unread" that were previously "read", even mails that I have moved to
other folders.

I used to run claws on windows, and the hardware was developing issues,
so this used to happen a lot. Any time I didn't exit claws properly,
when I next started it, a whole bunch of folders would suddenly have
unread mails in them, even though I had read and then manually moved
all the mails to those folders. I used to use "mark all as read" a
lot...

I'm now running claws on linux inside a VM on a windows host, so
crashes do happen from time to time, although rarely. I can't actually
remember if it still happens on linux, but this just might be the OP's
problem. At least it should be easy to check.


Paul
(A different one)






On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 22:08:27 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:42:51 +0200
> <c.buhtz at posteo.jp> wrote: 
> 
> > And when it doesn't work I'll try to delete all .claws_cache
> > and .claws_mark files as Andrej mentioned  
> 
> Andrej didn't mention deleting them. I can't see how that would be
> any solution to your problem. It looks very much to me like a local
> problem. If you can find out what you're doing to cause this then you
> can find out how to stop it. (I have never had this problem.)
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users



From c.buhtz at posteo.jp  Tue Aug  2 08:53:26 2016
From: c.buhtz at posteo.jp (c.buhtz at posteo.jp)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 08:53:26 +0200
Subject: [Users] sometimes claws forget the read-status of messages
In-Reply-To: <20160801232444.7676e5bb@afrihost.co.za>
References: <3s2YKT181Dz105h@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801080844.4bbae7f0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <3s2wpt4x3Rz105q@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801220827.36a4ae1a@kujata>
 <20160801232444.7676e5bb@afrihost.co.za>
Message-ID: <3s3Rk34tjJz1018@submission01.posteo.de>

On 2016-08-01 23:24 Paul Steyn <paulsteyn1 at afrihost.co.za> wrote:
> Not sure if this is relevant to this particular situation, but I have
> found that if I don't exit claws cleanly, it sets a bunch of mails to
> "unread" that were previously "read", even mails that I have moved to
> other folders.

Interesting.

I don't remember any situation where I had problems with closing claws.
I just close it with F4 or the X-Symbol on the window. ;)
I never shutdown with an open Claws instance.

And I think Claws is not so big like e.g. firefox which take some
seconds to disappear completely from RAM.

I will watch...


From rol at witbe.net  Tue Aug  2 11:01:00 2016
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 11:01:00 +0200
Subject: [Users] sometimes claws forget the read-status of messages
In-Reply-To: <20160801232444.7676e5bb@afrihost.co.za>
References: <3s2YKT181Dz105h@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801080844.4bbae7f0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <3s2wpt4x3Rz105q@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801220827.36a4ae1a@kujata>
 <20160801232444.7676e5bb@afrihost.co.za>
Message-ID: <20160802110100.394fe5cb@riri.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello,

On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 23:24:44 +0200
Paul Steyn <paulsteyn1 at afrihost.co.za> wrote:

> Not sure if this is relevant to this particular situation, but I have
> found that if I don't exit claws cleanly, it sets a bunch of mails to
> "unread" that were previously "read", even mails that I have moved to
> other folders.

Check the following :
Configuration > Preferences > Other > Miscellaneous
  Metadata handling
and make sure you have selected Safer.
 
Regards,
Paul

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From paulsteyn1 at afrihost.co.za  Tue Aug  2 11:16:15 2016
From: paulsteyn1 at afrihost.co.za (Paul Steyn)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 11:16:15 +0200
Subject: [Users] sometimes claws forget the read-status of messages
In-Reply-To: <20160802110100.394fe5cb@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
References: <3s2YKT181Dz105h@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801080844.4bbae7f0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <3s2wpt4x3Rz105q@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801220827.36a4ae1a@kujata>
 <20160801232444.7676e5bb@afrihost.co.za>
 <20160802110100.394fe5cb@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
Message-ID: <20160802111615.10d411d3@afrihost.co.za>

Thanks, I wasn't aware of this setting.

I see that it is set to "safer" on my current setup (which I assume is
the default, as I don't recall ever changing it, on either setup), but I
can't go back and check on the old setup. I'll confirm at some point if
killing the claws process causes read messages to be marked as unread
again.


Paul



On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 11:01:00 +0200
"Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)" <rol at witbe.net> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 23:24:44 +0200
> Paul Steyn <paulsteyn1 at afrihost.co.za> wrote:
> 
> > Not sure if this is relevant to this particular situation, but I
> > have found that if I don't exit claws cleanly, it sets a bunch of
> > mails to "unread" that were previously "read", even mails that I
> > have moved to other folders.  
> 
> Check the following :
> Configuration > Preferences > Other > Miscellaneous
>   Metadata handling
> and make sure you have selected Safer.
>  
> Regards,
> Paul
> 



From rol at witbe.net  Tue Aug  2 11:25:08 2016
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 11:25:08 +0200
Subject: [Users] sometimes claws forget the read-status of messages
In-Reply-To: <20160802111615.10d411d3@afrihost.co.za>
References: <3s2YKT181Dz105h@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801080844.4bbae7f0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <3s2wpt4x3Rz105q@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801220827.36a4ae1a@kujata>
 <20160801232444.7676e5bb@afrihost.co.za>
 <20160802110100.394fe5cb@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20160802111615.10d411d3@afrihost.co.za>
Message-ID: <20160802112508.4f99b747@riri.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello,

On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 11:16:15 +0200
Paul Steyn <paulsteyn1 at afrihost.co.za> wrote:

> Thanks, I wasn't aware of this setting.

Claws is very rich ;)
 
> I see that it is set to "safer" on my current setup (which I assume is
> the default, as I don't recall ever changing it, on either setup), but I
> can't go back and check on the old setup. I'll confirm at some point if
> killing the claws process causes read messages to be marked as unread
> again.

Well, this is supposed to really reduce the probability, but I don't think
any dev. would bet it can reduce the risk to 0....

Regards,
Paul
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From clawsmail at kushwaha.com  Tue Aug  2 11:40:46 2016
From: clawsmail at kushwaha.com (Abhay S. Kushwaha)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 15:10:46 +0530
Subject: [Users] sometimes claws forget the read-status of messages
In-Reply-To: <3s3Rk34tjJz1018@submission01.posteo.de>
References: <3s2YKT181Dz105h@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801080844.4bbae7f0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <3s2wpt4x3Rz105q@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801220827.36a4ae1a@kujata>
 <20160801232444.7676e5bb@afrihost.co.za>
 <3s3Rk34tjJz1018@submission01.posteo.de>
Message-ID: <20160802151046.0000109e@netsolutions.in>

On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 08:53:26 +0200, c.buhtz at posteo.jp wrote:

> I just close it with F4 or the X-Symbol on the window. ;)

Do you use SysTray plugin with it configured to "Close to tray" by
any chance? Trying to close the window with "X-Symbol on the window"
in that case doesn't exit Claws and only minimises it to system tray.
May explain the problem you're witnessing.

BTW, if you see unread mails in folder-tree which clears when you
open the folder, it's because your folderlist.xml isn't updating on a
clean exit. If you see unread mails in a folder on folder selection,
that folder's .files aren't updating. So track down your problem
accordingly.
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From pf at pfortin.com  Tue Aug  2 18:56:37 2016
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 12:56:37 -0400
Subject: [Users] filtering: from matchcase limited to <user@domain.tld>
 only?
In-Reply-To: <20160728103205.04f708b3@pfortin.com>
References: <20160728103205.04f708b3@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20160802125637.6521a881@pfortin.com>

On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 10:32:05 -0400 pf at pfortin.com wrote:

This is getting crazy...  since my original query, I've received 2 new
messages which were correctly filtered.  

enabled rulename "Instructables" from matchcase "\"Instructables\"" & from matchcase "sendgrid.net" move "#mh/Mailbox/Instructables"
enabled rulename "Instructables.re" from regexpcase "Instructables.*sendgrid.net" move "#mh/Mailbox/Instructables"

The first rule still contains escape quotes which were added based on a
suggestion from Charles.

I can move these new messages
into the inbox, while one does not...

Defies filtering:
>From: "Instructables" <no-reply at u1924168.wl.sendgrid.net>

Auto-filters and manually filters OK:
>From: "Instructables" <no-reply at u1924168.wl.sendgrid.net>
>From: "Instructables" <no-reply at u1924168.wl.sendgrid.net>

Looking at the raw messages:
$ grep "From:" inbox/19504
inbox/19504:From: "Instructables" <no-reply at u1924168.wl.sendgrid.net>
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (see below)
$ grep "Reply-To:" inbox/{19504,19505}
inbox/19504:Reply-To: sender at u1924168.wl.sendgrid.net
$ grep "From:" Instructables/{34,35}
Instructables/34:From: "Instructables" <no-reply at u1924168.wl.sendgrid.net>
Instructables/35:From: "Instructables" <no-reply at u1924168.wl.sendgrid.net>
$ grep "Reply-To:" Instructables/{34,35}
Instructables/34:Reply-To: sender at u1924168.wl.sendgrid.net
Instructables/35:Reply-To: sender at u1924168.wl.sendgrid.netLooks 

Just noticed something really strange: so I moved the 2 latest messages
into the inbox, as well as one from before the failing one... (4)
In the summary pane, the problem message does not display
"Instructables" (see image below).

My original filtering attempts were based on what was visible within CM.
In fact, when I view the destination folder, only the most recently
received messages display "Instructables" in the From column. All others
do not...

I'm now suspecting a change in CM that affected caching... 

Moved the failing message manually from inbox to Instructables folder;
now displays in the summary pane for that message...

HOWEVER, all the previous messages do not display \"Instuctables\" which
exists in each message's From: field.

Looks like the reason my filter failed is that the cache is not only used
to display the Summary pane; but is what is used for filtering rather
than the original message...  That seems to explain why this filter was
failing...

As confirmation, moved the message back to inbox, Tools->Filter selected
now works on this message with NO changes...   

So this appears to confirm that the cache didn't always have a complete
copy of the From: field....

   <user at domain.tld>  v. "string" <user at domain.tld>

Additional test: created new sub-folder to which I moved all the
messages, and \"Instuctables\" is now visible on all messages. Moved them
back to the main folder and all messages now show the full From: field as
they exist within the messages...

HTH, 
Pierre
 

>Hi,
>
>When filtering, only part of "From" field is checked?
>
>  From: "Instructables" <no-reply at u1924168.wl.sendgrid.net>
>
>These rules fail:
>
>enabled rulename "Instructables" from matchcase "sendgrid.net" & from
>    matchcase "instructables" move "#mh/Mailbox/Instructables" enabled
>rulename "Instructables.re" from regexpcase "instructables.*sendgrid.net"
>    move "#mh/Mailbox/Instructables"
>
>[10:16:56] processing rule 'Instructables' [ from matchcase
>    "sendgrid.net" & from matchcase "instructables" move
>    "#mh/Mailbox/Instructables" ] 
>[10:16:56] checking if message matches [ from matchcase "sendgrid.net" ]
>[10:16:56] checking if message matches [ from matchcase "instructables" ]
>> message does not match  
>[10:16:56] processing rule 'Instructables.re' [ from regexpcase
>    "instructables.*sendgrid.net" move "#mh/Mailbox/Instructables"]
>[10:16:56] checking if message matches [ from regexpcase
>    "instructables.*sendgrid.net" ]
>> message does not match  
>
>I had a different 2nd check in the first rule; but that quit working due
>to change in messages -- so tried the above to no avail...
>
>Pierre
>_______________________________________________
>Users mailing list
>Users at lists.claws-mail.org
>http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
>
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From pf at pfortin.com  Tue Aug  2 19:03:57 2016
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 13:03:57 -0400
Subject: [Users] filtering: from matchcase limited to <user@domain.tld>
 only?
In-Reply-To: <20160802125637.6521a881@pfortin.com>
References: <20160728103205.04f708b3@pfortin.com>
 <20160802125637.6521a881@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20160802130357.1a48b1bd@pfortin.com>

On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 12:56:37 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote:

>cache didn't always have a complete
>copy of the From: field....

The more I think about this...  could it be that I shutdown CM after this
message came in; but before filtering was triggered on it?

Could this have happened when I was restarting CM for a git update in
which .claws_cache now gets a copy of the entire From: field? 

If so, I'm due for a lottery win..  LOL


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug  3 00:43:38 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2016 22:43:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3663] New: Packaging: po/pl.po translation file is
 present in git tag 3.13.2, but not added to release tar.xz
Message-ID: <bug-3663-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3663

            Bug ID: 3663
           Summary: Packaging: po/pl.po translation file is present in git
                    tag 3.13.2, but not added to release tar.xz
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: other
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: m at michalrus.com

Well, really, not much more can be said. Proof:

Release:

% wget -O claws-mail-3.13.2.tar.xz
'http://www.claws-mail.org/download.php?file=releases/claws-mail-3.13.2.tar.xz'
% md5sum claws-mail-3.13.2.tar.xz
05e36d2ba3a91ef2aa646cde79e0ae3c  claws-mail-3.13.2.tar.xz
% tar -tf claws-mail-3.13.2.tar.xz | grep pl.po
%

Source:

% git clone http://git.claws-mail.org/readonly/claws.git
% cd claws
% git checkout 3.13.2
% find | grep pl.po
./po/pl.po
%

Packaging error?

Best,
Michal.

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug  3 00:44:12 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2016 22:44:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3663] Packaging: po/pl.po translation file is present
 in git tag 3.13.2, but not added to release tar.xz
In-Reply-To: <bug-3663-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3663-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3663-595-Z3Fnf5gmwv@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3663

Michal Rus <m at michalrus.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
            Version|other                       |3.13.2

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug  3 01:45:09 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2016 23:45:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3663] Packaging: po/pl.po translation file is present
 in git tag 3.13.2, but not added to release tar.xz
In-Reply-To: <bug-3663-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3663-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3663-595-m5orIUHIWb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3663

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
No, that's not a packaging error. It was simply dropped from release tarball
because it was unmaintained, see:

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=76f1303d

Submit an updated one and will be added again ;-)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug  3 01:52:01 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2016 23:52:01 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3663] Packaging: po/pl.po translation file is present
 in git tag 3.13.2, but not added to release tar.xz
In-Reply-To: <bug-3663-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3663-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3663-595-hyjj3JVqHZ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3663

--- Comment #2 from Michal Rus <m at michalrus.com> ---
Ahhhhhhh! Sorry for not digging deeper, then. =)

Is there a way for me to generate the initial diff automatically? And then only
fill the missing/changed parts.

I did some translations earlier, but it was never software. If the work needed
is not overwhelming (like, say, you changed 90%+ messages), I might help!

Thank you for quick response,
Michal.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug  3 07:10:50 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2016 05:10:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3663] Packaging: po/pl.po translation file is present
 in git tag 3.13.2, but not added to release tar.xz
In-Reply-To: <bug-3663-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3663-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3663-595-sfciwREb0f@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3663

--- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Yes, gettext has several utilities that work with message catalogs or
templates. Look up "msgmerge".

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug  3 10:26:12 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2016 08:26:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3623] Client crash on importing duplicated feed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3623-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3623-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3623-595-8avuZbWhic@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3623

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #3 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
No response, believed fixed, closing.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug  3 10:36:28 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2016 08:36:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3573] Out of bounds read in macro LBREAK_IF_REQUIRED
 in codeconv.c
In-Reply-To: <bug-3573-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3573-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3573-595-nXJM60AJ26@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3573

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug  3 12:05:08 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2016 10:05:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3663] Packaging: po/pl.po translation file is present
 in git tag 3.13.2, but not added to release tar.xz
In-Reply-To: <bug-3663-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3663-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3663-595-kjRSFEpijN@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3663

--- Comment #4 from Michal Rus <m at michalrus.com> ---
Will do, thank you!

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug  3 12:20:14 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2016 10:20:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3663] Packaging: po/pl.po translation file is present
 in git tag 3.13.2, but not added to release tar.xz
In-Reply-To: <bug-3663-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3663-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3663-595-jKr437snzR@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3663

--- Comment #5 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Michal, see http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Translator%27s_Information

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From ethy.brito at inexo.com.br  Wed Aug  3 17:16:32 2016
From: ethy.brito at inexo.com.br (Ethy H. Brito)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 12:16:32 -0300
Subject: [Users] key shortcut
Message-ID: <20160803121632.2a1b2c5f@pulsar.inexo.com.br>


Hi All

Every time I press "Z", CM eats 100% CPU and die a few seconds later.

How can I discover what is "Z" doing on my setup?

Regards

Ethy


From h.m.brand at xs4all.nl  Wed Aug  3 17:31:43 2016
From: h.m.brand at xs4all.nl (H.Merijn Brand)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 17:31:43 +0200
Subject: [Users] key shortcut
In-Reply-To: <20160803121632.2a1b2c5f@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
References: <20160803121632.2a1b2c5f@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
Message-ID: <20160803173143.1e65fe76@pc09.procura.nl>

On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 12:16:32 -0300, "Ethy H. Brito"
<ethy.brito at inexo.com.br> wrote:

> Hi All
> 
> Every time I press "Z", CM eats 100% CPU and die a few seconds later.
> 
> How can I discover what is "Z" doing on my setup?

The default binding for Z is (I think)

View → Go to → Previous part

You can find it by hovering over the menu items where the assigned
shortcut shows on the right side

> Ethy

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From c.buhtz at posteo.jp  Wed Aug  3 22:31:24 2016
From: c.buhtz at posteo.jp (c.buhtz at posteo.jp)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 22:31:24 +0200
Subject: [Users] sometimes claws forget the read-status of messages
In-Reply-To: <20160802151046.0000109e@netsolutions.in>
References: <3s2YKT181Dz105h@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801080844.4bbae7f0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <3s2wpt4x3Rz105q@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801220827.36a4ae1a@kujata>
 <20160801232444.7676e5bb@afrihost.co.za>
 <3s3Rk34tjJz1018@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160802151046.0000109e@netsolutions.in>
Message-ID: <3s4PqR28y4zyvw@submission01.posteo.de>

On 2016-08-02 15:10 "Abhay S. Kushwaha" <clawsmail at kushwaha.com> wrote:
> Do you use SysTray plugin with it configured to "Close to tray"

No.

> If you see unread mails in a folder on folder selection,
> that folder's .files aren't updating. So track down your problem
> accordingly.

That is the case. But why are they not updating?

I tested again:

Deleted all .files in ~/.claws-box.
Synced to the other machine (what has deleted the same files there,
too).
Then I opened claws and saw no unread messages in the folder tree.
When clicking on a folder all messages in there are unread - of course.
I rebuild the tree and set recursivly all to read.
Then I synced and started claws on the other machine.
There is still the same problem. I can reproduce that in both
directions.

I can not say which messages in a folder-message-list will marked as
unread. Not all messages in there but some. And I see no system (maybe
by date) in that.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug  3 22:58:46 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2016 20:58:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3663] Packaging: po/pl.po translation file is present
 in git tag 3.13.2, but not added to release tar.xz
In-Reply-To: <bug-3663-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3663-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3663-595-82efCtvmuk@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3663

--- Comment #6 from Michal Rus <m at michalrus.com> ---
Paul, even better! Thank you.

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From codejodler at gmx.ch  Wed Aug  3 23:10:08 2016
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 23:10:08 +0200
Subject: [Users] sometimes claws forget the read-status of messages
In-Reply-To: <3s4PqR28y4zyvw@submission01.posteo.de>
References: <3s2YKT181Dz105h@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801080844.4bbae7f0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <3s2wpt4x3Rz105q@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801220827.36a4ae1a@kujata>
 <20160801232444.7676e5bb@afrihost.co.za>
 <3s3Rk34tjJz1018@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160802151046.0000109e@netsolutions.in>
 <3s4PqR28y4zyvw@submission01.posteo.de>
Message-ID: <20160803231008.06975ccb@mirrors.kernel.org>

As a sidenote, i had a single suddenly-unread message in IMAP folder. I noticed this first when i was casually using the providers webinterface (which i rarely do). It was an old mail which i certainly (200%) have read before. 
It was standing out in a mass of read mails. I could not have overlooked this before, so it must have been set to 'unread' just recently !

A few days ago, it happened again. Suddenly an older mail was set to 'unread'. (And again, i was in there by the webmail interace.)

Because i was irritated, i asked the provider if there's a way this can happen just from 'their end' somehow and they said, no.

My best guess then was that when i went into the makilbox web interface by smartphone, i might have switched the "read" status accidently when scrolling through the list. (The list has a column for this status, and one click switches the status hither and forth.) Scrolling with smartphone is flakey, and the webmailer is not device optimizied so the list view was not scaled (way too small anyting) and difficult to handle.

This might bre unrelated, because if was only two incidents and everytime, only a single mail.



From andrej at kacian.sk  Wed Aug  3 23:24:52 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 23:24:52 +0200
Subject: [Users] sometimes claws forget the read-status of messages
In-Reply-To: <3s4PqR28y4zyvw@submission01.posteo.de>
References: <3s2YKT181Dz105h@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801080844.4bbae7f0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <3s2wpt4x3Rz105q@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801220827.36a4ae1a@kujata>
 <20160801232444.7676e5bb@afrihost.co.za>
 <3s3Rk34tjJz1018@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160802151046.0000109e@netsolutions.in>
 <3s4PqR28y4zyvw@submission01.posteo.de>
Message-ID: <20160803232452.22bac424@penny>

On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 22:31:24 +0200
<c.buhtz at posteo.jp> wrote:

> Deleted all .files in ~/.claws-box.
> Synced to the other machine (what has deleted the same files there,
> too).
> Then I opened claws and saw no unread messages in the folder tree.
> When clicking on a folder all messages in there are unread - of course.
> I rebuild the tree and set recursivly all to read.
> Then I synced and started claws on the other machine.
> There is still the same problem. I can reproduce that in both
> directions.

Yet again I ask - are you sure that your synchronization also
properly transfers dot-files (.claws_cache and .claws_mark)? Because
what you're describing sounds exactly like what happens when those
files are missing.

Also, how does the --debug output look like when you click on such
folder after syncing?

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au  Thu Aug  4 02:03:38 2016
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 10:03:38 +1000
Subject: [Users] key shortcut
In-Reply-To: <20160803121632.2a1b2c5f@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
References: <20160803121632.2a1b2c5f@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
Message-ID: <20160804100338.3ffa1818@PPlive>

On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 12:16:32 -0300
"Ethy H. Brito" <ethy.brito at inexo.com.br> wrote:

> 
> Hi All
> 
> Every time I press "Z", CM eats 100% CPU and die a few seconds later.
> 
> How can I discover what is "Z" doing on my setup?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Ethy

Read how your system is configured by looking at,
<~/.claws-mail/menurc>.


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From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au  Thu Aug  4 13:15:36 2016
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 21:15:36 +1000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3660] SSL Cert change shown on previously accepted
 certificates.
In-Reply-To: <20160728200919.366cb421@PPlive>
References: <bug-3660-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3660-595-nMbXgrI6jj@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <20160714140522.532f0295@PPlive> <20160714080306.41c292d6@kujata>
 <20160728200919.366cb421@PPlive>
Message-ID: <20160804211536.5d554db0@PPlive>

On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 20:09:19 +1000
blind Pete <peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au> wrote:

[snip]
> Case two; one URL, multiple certificates.  Is that 
> really dangerous?  How? 
[snip]

It was a serious question guys.  

The nearest information that I can find about it is,
<https://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/591120>, but that is about what
happens when a certificate is fraudulently obtained - not two valid
certificates.  

When rarely offered a change of certificate for a site, I read it.  
When I have to repeatedly click through a random choice of two I am
likely to be less careful.  

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bP


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Aug  4 13:25:09 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 12:25:09 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3660] SSL Cert change shown on previously accepted
 certificates.
In-Reply-To: <20160804211536.5d554db0@PPlive>
References: <bug-3660-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3660-595-nMbXgrI6jj@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <20160714140522.532f0295@PPlive> <20160714080306.41c292d6@kujata>
 <20160728200919.366cb421@PPlive> <20160804211536.5d554db0@PPlive>
Message-ID: <20160804122509.2f21c466@kujata>

On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 21:15:36 +1000
blind Pete <peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au> wrote: 

> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 20:09:19 +1000
> blind Pete <peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au> wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> > Case two; one URL, multiple certificates.  Is that 
> > really dangerous?  How?   
> [snip]
> 
> It was a serious question guys.

It's possible, albeit unusual. However, gmail users will often see
this during a certificate upgrade which isn't implemented all at once
across all their servers. That is why I suggested to use
"Automatically accept valid SSL certificates".

with regards

Paul


From andrej at kacian.sk  Thu Aug  4 13:39:57 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 13:39:57 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3660] SSL Cert change shown on previously accepted
 certificates.
In-Reply-To: <20160804211536.5d554db0@PPlive>
References: <bug-3660-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3660-595-nMbXgrI6jj@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <20160714140522.532f0295@PPlive> <20160714080306.41c292d6@kujata>
 <20160728200919.366cb421@PPlive> <20160804211536.5d554db0@PPlive>
Message-ID: <20160804133957.04fa130d@hiker>

On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 21:15:36 +1000
blind Pete <peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 20:09:19 +1000
> blind Pete <peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au> wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> > Case two; one URL, multiple certificates.  Is that 
> > really dangerous?  How? 
> [snip]
> 
> It was a serious question guys.  
> 
> The nearest information that I can find about it is,
> <https://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/591120>, but that is about what
> happens when a certificate is fraudulently obtained - not two valid
> certificates.  
> 
> When rarely offered a change of certificate for a site, I read it.  
> When I have to repeatedly click through a random choice of two I am
> likely to be less careful.  
> 

One URL, multiple certificates is easy to "achieve" if the host part of
the URL is a round-robin DNS record, so you're in fact connecting to
several different endpoints. All it takes is for one of them not having
the latest updated certificate.

That is the case with gmail, like Paul mentioned in sibling post.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From c.buhtz at posteo.jp  Thu Aug  4 17:44:15 2016
From: c.buhtz at posteo.jp (c.buhtz at posteo.jp)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 17:44:15 +0200
Subject: [Users] understanding my debug output
Message-ID: <3s4vPg6vTlz104C@submission01.posteo.de>

I found some things in my debug output I don't understand.

Here are just two of them.

1.
prefs_gtk.c:1005:new section '#rssyl/Meine Feeds/.All Feeds.2much'

I tested rssyl years ago but it is deinstalled. This folder does not
exists in my filesystem. So why is it still in debug output? Why does
claws take care of something that doesn't exsits?


2.
main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by
any .service files

I am not aware of using anything with google. It scares me when I find
"google" in my debug output. Why is it there?
I never used a account on google or google-code. From time to time I
subscribe (per mail!) to mailinglists hosted hat google-code.


From c.buhtz at posteo.jp  Thu Aug  4 17:41:04 2016
From: c.buhtz at posteo.jp (c.buhtz at posteo.jp)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 17:41:04 +0200
Subject: [Users] sometimes claws forget the read-status of messages
In-Reply-To: <20160803232452.22bac424@penny>
References: <3s2YKT181Dz105h@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801080844.4bbae7f0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <3s2wpt4x3Rz105q@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801220827.36a4ae1a@kujata>
 <20160801232444.7676e5bb@afrihost.co.za>
 <3s3Rk34tjJz1018@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160802151046.0000109e@netsolutions.in>
 <3s4PqR28y4zyvw@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160803232452.22bac424@penny>
Message-ID: <3s4vPg5tFWz101F@submission01.posteo.de>

On 2016-08-03 23:24 Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:
> Yet again I ask - are you sure that your synchronization also
> properly transfers dot-files (.claws_cache and .claws_mark)?

Yes it does. I use Unison in a none-batch mode to do this.
Unison itself tells me that it sync and I checked on the filesystem
myself.

> Also, how does the --debug output look like when you click on such
> folder after syncing?

A lot of output of course. Maybe this snipped helps?
The folder "notify" was shown 100% read in the folder tree. Then I
selected it and got a bunch of messages as unread.

claws.c:102:Starting Claws Mail version Claws Mail 3.13.2
utils.c:1802:using default rc_dir /home/user/.claws-mail
main.c:2177:Using control
socket /tmp/claws-mail-1000/58c107d390fa69c187b12327b2ba0270
main.c:2241:Opening
socket /tmp/claws-mail-1000/58c107d390fa69c187b12327b2ba0270
main.c:769:runtime GTK+ 2.24.30 / GLib 2.48.1 main.c:777:buildtime GTK+
2.24.29 / GLib 2.46.2 main.c:786:Compiled-in features: main.c:791:
compface main.c:797: Enchant
main.c:803: GnuTLS
main.c:809: IPv6
main.c:815: iconv
main.c:821: JPilot
main.c:827: LDAP
main.c:833: libetpan 1.6
main.c:839: libSM
main.c:845: NetworkManager
prefs_gtk.c:1046:new file '/home/user/.claws-mail/clawsrc'
prefs_gtk.c:1005:new section 'Common'
prefs_gtk.c:1005:new section 'fancy'
prefs_gtk.c:1005:new section 'Plugins_Common'
prefs_gtk.c:1005:new section 'Plugins_GTK2'
prefs_gtk.c:1005:new section 'GPG'
prefs_gtk.c:1005:new section 'AddressKeeper'
prefs_gtk.c:1046:new file '/home/user/.claws-mail/folderitemrc'
[...SNIPPED...]
folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service files
folder.c:4420:processing notify
folder.c:4423:called inc_lock (lock count 1)
msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
filtering.c:198:checking 283 messages
filtering.c:235:no more messages to move/copy/del
folder.c:4474:called inc_unlock (lock count 0)
folder.c:2042:TIMING folder_item_open : 0s231ms
summaryview.c:1035:showing both
summaryview.c:1248:called inc_lock (lock count 1)
summaryview.c:1346:Ordner notify wird durchsucht ...
msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
summaryview.c:1210:TIMING summary_check_consistency : 0s000ms
summaryview.c:1458:TIMING summary_show removing hidden: 0s000ms
summaryview.c:3128:	Setting summary from message data...
procmsg.c:301:TIMING procmsg_get_thread_tree thread by subject: 0s001ms
procmsg.c:311:TIMING procmsg_get_thread_tree : 0s005ms
summaryview.c:3169:TIMING summary_set_ctree_from_list threaded: 0s014ms
summaryview.c:3216:done.
summaryview.c:3219:	msgid hash table size = 283
summaryview.c:3222:	subject hash table size = 0
summaryview.c:2990:Sorting summary...summaryview.c:3004:done.
summaryview.c:3011:TIMING summary_sort : 0s035ms
summaryview.c:3238:TIMING summary_set_ctree_from_list bold_unread: 0s000ms
summaryview.c:3243:TIMING summary_set_ctree_from_list : 0s054ms
    message/rfc822 (offset:0 length:2417 encoding: 6)
        text/plain (offset:2002 length:415 encoding: 1)
procmsg.c:1928:Setting flags for message 5048 in folder notify
folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service files
    message/rfc822 (offset:0 length:2417 encoding: 6)
        text/plain (offset:2002 length:415 encoding: 1)
textview.c:712:TIMING textview_add_part : 0s074ms
textview.c:1181:Viewing text content of type: plain (length: 415)
textview.c:828:TIMING textview_add_part : 0s056ms
textview.c:845:TIMING recursive_add_parts : 0s056ms
textview.c:891:TIMING recursive_add_parts : 0s131ms
textview.c:651:TIMING textview_show_part : 0s132ms
summaryview.c:3459:flags: doing unset now
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 5048 in folder notify
folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service files
summaryview.c:3664:TIMING summary_display_msg_full : 0s171ms
summaryview.c:1583:
summaryview.c:1588:called inc_unlock (lock count 0)
summaryview.c:1589:TIMING summary_show : 0s457ms
folder.c:2570:Total cache memory usage: 105710
folderview.c:2283:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s707ms
folderview.c:2159:newly selected 0x9ac69c0, opened 0x9ac69c0
folderview.c:2163:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
main.c:2092:exiting
msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4779 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4784 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4785 in folder notify
[...SNIPPED...]
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 5045 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 5046 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 5047 in folder notify
folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service files
mh.c:236:MH scan not required: /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAILBOX at WOLRD.NET/notify (1470324057 <= 1470324057)
folder.c:2734:Save cache for folder #mh/MYMAILBOX at WOLRD.NET/notify
msgcache.c:1189:	Writing message cache to /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAILBOX at WOLRD.NET/notify/.claws_cache.new and /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAILBOX at WOLRD.NET/notify/.claws_mark.new...
msgcache.c:1270:done.
msgcache.c:1271:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s011ms
mh.c:1420:MH: forced mtime of notify to 1470324157
folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service files
mh.c:236:MH scan not required: /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAILBOX at WOLRD.NET/notify (1470324157 <= 1470324157)
msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
mh.c:1355:wrote unseen sequence: 'unseen: 4779 4784-4786 4792 4795-4798 4802-4806 4817 4820 4827-4828 4832-4841 4849-4850 4855-4866 4870-4873 4881-4883 4886 4891-4894 4901-4910 4915-4921 4926-4932 4936-4937 4953 4956-4966 4978-4983 4991-4992 4994-4995 4997-5001 5003-5006 5009-5013 5015 5019-5025 5030-5032 5035-5036 5042-5047'
mh.c:1388:TIMING mh_write_sequences : 0s001ms
mh.c:1420:MH: forced mtime of notify to 1470324157
hooks.c:90:unregisted hook 1 in 'folder_item_update'
hooks.c:90:unregisted hook 1 in 'folder_update'
main.c:1602:shutting down
mh.c:228:MH scan required, folder updated: /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAILBOX at WOLRD.NET/queue (1470324047 > 1470257953)
folder.c:2734:Save cache for folder #mh/MYMAILBOX at WOLRD.NET/queue
msgcache.c:1189:	Writing message cache to (null) and (null)...
msgcache.c:1270:done.
msgcache.c:1271:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s000ms
mh.c:236:MH scan not required: /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAILBOX at WOLRD.NETnotify (1470324157 <= 1470324157)
folder.c:2734:Save cache for folder #mh/MYMAILBOX at WOLRD.NET/notify
msgcache.c:1189:	Writing message cache to (null) and (null)...
msgcache.c:1270:done.
msgcache.c:1271:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s000ms
mh.c:1420:MH: forced mtime of notify to 1470324157
[...SNIPPED...]


From ricardo at mones.org  Thu Aug  4 18:01:12 2016
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 18:01:12 +0200
Subject: [Users] understanding my debug output
In-Reply-To: <3s4vPg6vTlz104C@submission01.posteo.de>
References: <3s4vPg6vTlz104C@submission01.posteo.de>
Message-ID: <20160804180112.3d31133c@busgosu>

On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 17:44:15 +0200
<c.buhtz at posteo.jp> wrote:

> I found some things in my debug output I don't understand.
> 
> Here are just two of them.
> 
> 1.
> prefs_gtk.c:1005:new section '#rssyl/Meine Feeds/.All Feeds.2much'
> 
> I tested rssyl years ago but it is deinstalled. This folder does not
> exists in my filesystem. So why is it still in debug output? Why does
> claws take care of something that doesn't exsits?

It's not taking care of anything, just informing you of what's in your
configuration files.

> 2.
> main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by
> any .service files
> 
> I am not aware of using anything with google. It scares me when I find
> "google" in my debug output. Why is it there?
> I never used a account on google or google-code. From time to time I
> subscribe (per mail!) to mailinglists hosted hat google-code.

https://code.google.com/archive/p/avant-window-navigator/

It's just a program which can be used via D-Bus, but you don't have
installed, hence the message (just in case you're afraid of clicking the
link ;-)

regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  Don't take the name of root in vain.          /usr/src/linux/README

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From c.buhtz at posteo.jp  Thu Aug  4 21:52:07 2016
From: c.buhtz at posteo.jp (c.buhtz at posteo.jp)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 21:52:07 +0200
Subject: [Users] understanding my debug output
In-Reply-To: <20160804180112.3d31133c@busgosu>
References: <3s4vPg6vTlz104C@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160804180112.3d31133c@busgosu>
Message-ID: <3s50vg1JBMzysW@submission01.posteo.de>

Thanks for your fast reply Ricardo.

On 2016-08-04 18:01 Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 17:44:15 +0200
> <c.buhtz at posteo.jp> wrote:
> > 1.
> > prefs_gtk.c:1005:new section '#rssyl/Meine Feeds/.All Feeds.2much'
> > 
> It's not taking care of anything, just informing you of what's in your
> configuration files.

Let me ask more specific. Why is it in my config files? I deinstalled
rssyl years ago. Nothing of this should be left behind.

> https://code.google.com/archive/p/avant-window-navigator/

Sounds like a "Dock". Ok, but what why does claws looks for it?
I have never used it.

Claws shouldn't fast its time and resources looking for unused parts in
a config file and things like that.


From ricardo at mones.org  Fri Aug  5 01:13:22 2016
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 01:13:22 +0200
Subject: [Users] understanding my debug output
In-Reply-To: <3s50vg1JBMzysW@submission01.posteo.de>
References: <3s4vPg6vTlz104C@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160804180112.3d31133c@busgosu>
 <3s50vg1JBMzysW@submission01.posteo.de>
Message-ID: <20160805011322.505fc1e9@busgosu>

On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 21:52:07 +0200
<c.buhtz at posteo.jp> wrote:

> On 2016-08-04 18:01 Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 17:44:15 +0200
> > <c.buhtz at posteo.jp> wrote:  
> > > 1.
> > > prefs_gtk.c:1005:new section '#rssyl/Meine Feeds/.All Feeds.2much'
> > >   
> > It's not taking care of anything, just informing you of what's in your
> > configuration files.  
> 
> Let me ask more specific. Why is it in my config files? I deinstalled
> rssyl years ago. Nothing of this should be left behind.

This is an opinion, others have other. Most of the people I know
wouldn't like to lose their personal configuration in $HOME dir just
because root decides to uninstall some program. Specially when the
program being uninstalled cannot know if that is the configuration
written by it or by other local build of the same program done by the
user.

> > https://code.google.com/archive/p/avant-window-navigator/  
> 
> Sounds like a "Dock". Ok, but what why does claws looks for it?
> I have never used it.

Neither I. But neither you nor me are the sole users of Claws Mail.

> Claws shouldn't fast its time and resources looking for unused parts in
> a config file and things like that.

Well, you're free to patch it or even fork it and remove anything you
don't like, of course.

Nevertheless, don't expect others to live by your standards ;-)

regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  Datei nicht gefunden                                     Fehler 404

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From geek at uniserve.com  Fri Aug  5 01:47:56 2016
From: geek at uniserve.com (Dave Stevens)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 16:47:56 -0700
Subject: [Users] list detail request
Message-ID: <20160804164756.7b947a71@user-Satellite-A100>


when I get a claws users list email the subject line starts with
[Users]. I'm on other lists that use a variation such as (in this case)
[Claws-users] which I find quite handy when scanning subject lines.
Would it be difficult to make this change on this list as well?

Dave

-- 
Reporter to Mahatma Ghandi after his tour of east London
"What do you think of western civilization, Mr. Ghandi?"
Ghandi - "I think it would be an excellent idea!"



From c.buhtz at posteo.jp  Fri Aug  5 10:11:01 2016
From: c.buhtz at posteo.jp (c.buhtz at posteo.jp)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 10:11:01 +0200
Subject: [Users] understanding my debug output
In-Reply-To: <20160805011322.505fc1e9@busgosu>
References: <3s4vPg6vTlz104C@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160804180112.3d31133c@busgosu>
 <3s50vg1JBMzysW@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160805011322.505fc1e9@busgosu>
Message-ID: <3s5KJC4zf2z104d@submission01.posteo.de>

Hi Ricardo

On 2016-08-05 01:13 Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:
> wouldn't like to lose their personal configuration in $HOME dir just
> because root decides to uninstall some program.

Your are right and I agree.

The point is that my claws-instance see config-data of rssyl and should
know that it is not installed. In that case it shouldn't wastetime with
that.

I wasn't able to find rssyl data somewhere in the config-files.
(.claws-mail/accountrc clawsrc). Where is it?

> > > https://code.google.com/archive/p/avant-window-navigator/    
> > 
> > Sounds like a "Dock". Ok, but what why does claws looks for it?
> > I have never used it.  
> 
> Neither I. But neither you nor me are the sole users of Claws Mail.

I didn't understand that sentence. Sorry.

The description sounds for me like a "Dock".
The question is again why does claws look for it. I see no need for it.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Aug  5 10:15:37 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 09:15:37 +0100
Subject: [Users] understanding my debug output
In-Reply-To: <3s5KJC4zf2z104d@submission01.posteo.de>
References: <3s4vPg6vTlz104C@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160804180112.3d31133c@busgosu>
 <3s50vg1JBMzysW@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160805011322.505fc1e9@busgosu>
 <3s5KJC4zf2z104d@submission01.posteo.de>
Message-ID: <20160805091537.4d9048d2@kujata>

On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 10:11:01 +0200
<c.buhtz at posteo.jp> wrote: 

> In that case it shouldn't wastetime with
> that.

How much time are you talking about here, do you think?

with regards

Paul


From c.buhtz at posteo.jp  Fri Aug  5 10:22:24 2016
From: c.buhtz at posteo.jp (c.buhtz at posteo.jp)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 10:22:24 +0200
Subject: [Users] understanding my debug output
In-Reply-To: <20160805091537.4d9048d2@kujata>
References: <3s4vPg6vTlz104C@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160804180112.3d31133c@busgosu>
 <3s50vg1JBMzysW@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160805011322.505fc1e9@busgosu>
 <3s5KJC4zf2z104d@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160805091537.4d9048d2@kujata>
Message-ID: <3s5KYJ7331z104Z@submission01.posteo.de>

On 2016-08-05 09:15 Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> How much time are you talking about here, do you think?

Depends on the machine and the data. But in the range of milliseconds.


From andrej at kacian.sk  Fri Aug  5 10:40:52 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 10:40:52 +0200
Subject: [Users] understanding my debug output
In-Reply-To: <3s5KJC4zf2z104d@submission01.posteo.de>
References: <3s4vPg6vTlz104C@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160804180112.3d31133c@busgosu>
 <3s50vg1JBMzysW@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160805011322.505fc1e9@busgosu>
 <3s5KJC4zf2z104d@submission01.posteo.de>
Message-ID: <20160805104052.14d99c68@hiker>

On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 10:11:01 +0200
<c.buhtz at posteo.jp> wrote:

> > > > https://code.google.com/archive/p/avant-window-navigator/      
> > > 
> > > Sounds like a "Dock". Ok, but what why does claws looks for it?
> > > I have never used it.    
> > 
> > Neither I. But neither you nor me are the sole users of Claws
> > Mail.  
> 
> I didn't understand that sentence. Sorry.
> 
> The description sounds for me like a "Dock".
> The question is again why does claws look for it. I see no need for
> it.

Claws Mail looks for it because it was compiled with DBUS support. You
can use --disable-dbus configure option to compile it without this
support if you do not want it.

Or, if you're using a pre-packaged Claws Mail from your OS
distribution, you can convince maintainer of the Claws Mail package to
do so.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From subscript at free.fr  Fri Aug  5 10:42:23 2016
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 10:42:23 +0200
Subject: [Users] understanding my debug output
In-Reply-To: <3s5KYJ7331z104Z@submission01.posteo.de>
References: <3s4vPg6vTlz104C@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160804180112.3d31133c@busgosu>
 <3s50vg1JBMzysW@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160805011322.505fc1e9@busgosu>
 <3s5KJC4zf2z104d@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160805091537.4d9048d2@kujata>
 <3s5KYJ7331z104Z@submission01.posteo.de>
Message-ID: <20160805104223.69726b0b@anthra>

Hello,


On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 10:22:24 +0200 <c.buhtz at posteo.jp> wrote:

> On 2016-08-05 09:15 Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> > How much time are you talking about here, do you think?  
> 
> Depends on the machine and the data. But in the range of milliseconds.

Try debugging your favorite web browser and you will never sleep
again :-D.

More seriously, don't bother, you're in a safe place w/ CM whatever
"threats" your paranoid eyes are seeing in debug logs.

BTW, what are you debugging CM for? Maybe we could help there.


Regards,

-- 
wwp
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From andrej at kacian.sk  Fri Aug  5 11:20:56 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 11:20:56 +0200
Subject: [Users] sometimes claws forget the read-status of messages
In-Reply-To: <3s4vPg5tFWz101F@submission01.posteo.de>
References: <3s2YKT181Dz105h@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801080844.4bbae7f0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <3s2wpt4x3Rz105q@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801220827.36a4ae1a@kujata>
 <20160801232444.7676e5bb@afrihost.co.za>
 <3s3Rk34tjJz1018@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160802151046.0000109e@netsolutions.in>
 <3s4PqR28y4zyvw@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160803232452.22bac424@penny>
 <3s4vPg5tFWz101F@submission01.posteo.de>
Message-ID: <20160805112056.3b7e82af@hiker>

On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 17:41:04 +0200
<c.buhtz at posteo.jp> wrote:

> [...SNIPPED...]
> folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
> main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by
> any .service files
> folder.c:4420:processing notify
> folder.c:4423:called inc_lock (lock count 1)

Unfortunately, you snipped a little too much, the "processing
notify" line comes after all the dotfiles in the folders are read. :)

Look for a line that looks like:

  folderview.c:2143:Opening folder notify...

That's where the folder opening process starts.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From c.buhtz at posteo.jp  Fri Aug  5 12:34:18 2016
From: c.buhtz at posteo.jp (c.buhtz at posteo.jp)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 12:34:18 +0200
Subject: [Users] sometimes claws forget the read-status of messages
In-Reply-To: <20160805112056.3b7e82af@hiker>
References: <3s2YKT181Dz105h@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801080844.4bbae7f0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <3s2wpt4x3Rz105q@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801220827.36a4ae1a@kujata>
 <20160801232444.7676e5bb@afrihost.co.za>
 <3s3Rk34tjJz1018@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160802151046.0000109e@netsolutions.in>
 <3s4PqR28y4zyvw@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160803232452.22bac424@penny>
 <3s4vPg5tFWz101F@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160805112056.3b7e82af@hiker>
Message-ID: <3s5NTc1zYbz104C@submission01.posteo.de>

On 2016-08-05 11:20 Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:
> Unfortunately, you snipped a little too much, 

Sorry. ;)

folderview.c:2205:Folder notify is selected
folderview.c:2221:Öffne Ordner notify...
mh.c:228:MH scan required, folder updated: /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify (1470324057 > 1470323949)
folder.c:2152:Scanning folder notify for cache changes.
mh.c:298:mh_get_num_list(): Scanning notify ...
current dir: /home/user/.MyAppData/claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify
mh.c:1420:MH: forced mtime of notify to 1470324057
msgcache.c:605:	Reading swapped message cache from /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify/.claws_cache...
msgcache.c:621:using Noop Converter
msgcache.c:793:done. (283 items read)
msgcache.c:794:Cache size: 283 messages, 105710 bytes
msgcache.c:824:reading swapped mark file.
msgcache.c:918:reading swapped tags file.
folder.c:2709:TIMING folder_item_read_cache : 0s001ms
folder.c:2570:Total cache memory usage: 105710
msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 282 messages, 105347 bytes
folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4779 to update...
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 281 messages, 104985 bytes
folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4784 to update...
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 280 messages, 104623 bytes
folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4785 to update...
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 279 messages, 104273 bytes
folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4786 to update...
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 278 messages, 103911 bytes
folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4792 to update...
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 277 messages, 103549 bytes
folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4795 to update...
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 276 messages, 103186 bytes
folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4796 to update...
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 275 messages, 102824 bytes
folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4797 to update...
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 274 messages, 102461 bytes
folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4798 to update...
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 273 messages, 102102 bytes
folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4802 to update...
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 272 messages, 101734 bytes
[...SNIPPED...]
folder.c:2288:Remembering message 5047 to update...
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 153 messages, 57064 bytes
folder.c:2288:Remembering message 5048 to update...
hooks.c:71:registed new hook for 'avatar_header_update' as id 1
codeconv.c:1509:current locale: de_DE.utf8
msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 154 messages, 57427 bytes
msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 155 messages, 57789 bytes
msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 156 messages, 58151 bytes
msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 157 messages, 58501 bytes
msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 158 messages, 58863 bytes
msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 159 messages, 59225 bytes
msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 160 messages, 59588 bytes
msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 161 messages, 59950 bytes
[...SNIPPED...]
msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 282 messages, 105360 bytes
msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 283 messages, 105710 bytes
folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service files
folder.c:4420:processing notify
folder.c:4423:called inc_lock (lock count 1)
msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
filtering.c:198:checking 283 messages
filtering.c:235:no more messages to move/copy/del
folder.c:4474:called inc_unlock (lock count 0)
folder.c:2042:TIMING folder_item_open : 0s231ms
summaryview.c:1035:showing both
summaryview.c:1248:called inc_lock (lock count 1)
summaryview.c:1346:Ordner notify wird durchsucht ...
msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
summaryview.c:1210:TIMING summary_check_consistency : 0s000ms
summaryview.c:1458:TIMING summary_show removing hidden: 0s000ms
summaryview.c:3128:	Setting summary from message data...
procmsg.c:301:TIMING procmsg_get_thread_tree thread by subject: 0s001ms
procmsg.c:311:TIMING procmsg_get_thread_tree : 0s005ms
summaryview.c:3169:TIMING summary_set_ctree_from_list threaded: 0s014ms
summaryview.c:3216:done.
summaryview.c:3219:	msgid hash table size = 283
summaryview.c:3222:	subject hash table size = 0
summaryview.c:2990:Sorting summary...summaryview.c:3004:done.
summaryview.c:3011:TIMING summary_sort : 0s035ms
summaryview.c:3238:TIMING summary_set_ctree_from_list bold_unread: 0s000ms
summaryview.c:3243:TIMING summary_set_ctree_from_list : 0s054ms
    message/rfc822 (offset:0 length:2417 encoding: 6)
        text/plain (offset:2002 length:415 encoding: 1)
procmsg.c:1928:Setting flags for message 5048 in folder notify
folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service files
    message/rfc822 (offset:0 length:2417 encoding: 6)
        text/plain (offset:2002 length:415 encoding: 1)
textview.c:712:TIMING textview_add_part : 0s074ms
textview.c:1181:Viewing text content of type: plain (length: 415)
textview.c:828:TIMING textview_add_part : 0s056ms
textview.c:845:TIMING recursive_add_parts : 0s056ms
textview.c:891:TIMING recursive_add_parts : 0s131ms
textview.c:651:TIMING textview_show_part : 0s132ms
summaryview.c:3459:flags: doing unset now
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 5048 in folder notify
folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service files
summaryview.c:3664:TIMING summary_display_msg_full : 0s171ms
summaryview.c:1583:
summaryview.c:1588:called inc_unlock (lock count 0)
summaryview.c:1589:TIMING summary_show : 0s457ms
folder.c:2570:Total cache memory usage: 105710
folderview.c:2283:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s707ms
folderview.c:2159:newly selected 0x9ac69c0, opened 0x9ac69c0
folderview.c:2163:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
main.c:2092:exiting
msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4779 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4784 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4785 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4786 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4792 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4795 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4796 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4797 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4798 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4802 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4803 in folder notify
[...SNIPPED...]
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 5045 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 5046 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 5047 in folder notify
folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service files
mh.c:236:MH scan not required: /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify (1470324057 <= 1470324057)
folder.c:2734:Save cache for folder #mh/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify
msgcache.c:1189:	Writing message cache to /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify/.claws_cache.new and /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify/.claws_mark.new...
msgcache.c:1270:done.
msgcache.c:1271:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s011ms
mh.c:1420:MH: forced mtime of notify to 1470324157
folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service files
mh.c:236:MH scan not required: /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify (1470324157 <= 1470324157)
msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
mh.c:1355:wrote unseen sequence: 'unseen: 4779 4784-4786 4792 4795-4798 4802-4806 4817 4820 4827-4828 4832-4841 4849-4850 4855-4866 4870-4873 4881-4883 4886 4891-4894 4901-4910 4915-4921 4926-4932 4936-4937 4953 4956-4966 4978-4983 4991-4992 4994-4995 4997-5001 5003-5006 5009-5013 5015 5019-5025 5030-5032 5035-5036 5042-5047'
mh.c:1388:TIMING mh_write_sequences : 0s001ms
mh.c:1420:MH: forced mtime of notify to 1470324157
hooks.c:90:unregisted hook 1 in 'folder_item_update'
hooks.c:90:unregisted hook 1 in 'folder_update'
main.c:1602:shutting down
mh.c:228:MH scan required, folder updated: /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/queue (1470324047 > 1470257953)
folder.c:2734:Save cache for folder #mh/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/queue
msgcache.c:1189:	Writing message cache to (null) and (null)...
msgcache.c:1270:done.
msgcache.c:1271:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s000ms
mh.c:236:MH scan not required: /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify (1470324157 <= 1470324157)
folder.c:2734:Save cache for folder #mh/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify
msgcache.c:1189:	Writing message cache to (null) and (null)...
msgcache.c:1270:done.
[...SNIPPED...]
msgcache.c:1270:done.
msgcache.c:1271:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s000ms
prefs_gtk.c:288:Found [Common]
prefs_gtk.c:332:Configuration is saved.
addressbook.c:4430:Saving address books...
addressbook.c:4433:Exporting addressbook to file...
plugin.c:286:removing /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/claws-mail/plugins/pgpinline.so rdeps
plugin.c:286:removing /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/claws-mail/plugins/pgpmime.so rdeps
plugin.c:286:removing /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/claws-mail/plugins/pgpcore.so rdeps
plugin.c:290: rdep /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/claws-mail/plugins/pgpmime.so: (nil)
plugin.c:290: rdep /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/claws-mail/plugins/pgpinline.so: (nil)
prefs_gpg.c:587:set GPG_AGENT_INFO=/home/user/.gnupg/S.gpg-agent:0:1
hooks.c:90:unregisted hook 1 in 'address_completion_build_address_list_hooklist'
autocompletion.c:123:PGP address autocompletion hook unregistered
plugin.c:286:removing /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/claws-mail/plugins/address_keeper.so rdeps
hooks.c:90:unregisted hook 1 in 'compose_check_before_send'
address_keeper.c:271:Address Keeper plugin unloaded
plugin.c:286:removing /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/claws-mail/plugins/fancy.so rdeps
prefs.c:310:Found [fancy]
hooks.c:90:unregisted hook 1 in 'avatar_image_render'
prefs_themes.c:414:Finished preferences for themes.


From c.buhtz at posteo.jp  Fri Aug  5 12:34:59 2016
From: c.buhtz at posteo.jp (c.buhtz at posteo.jp)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 12:34:59 +0200
Subject: [Users] understanding my debug output
In-Reply-To: <20160805104223.69726b0b@anthra>
References: <3s4vPg6vTlz104C@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160804180112.3d31133c@busgosu>
 <3s50vg1JBMzysW@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160805011322.505fc1e9@busgosu>
 <3s5KJC4zf2z104d@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160805091537.4d9048d2@kujata>
 <3s5KYJ7331z104Z@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160805104223.69726b0b@anthra>
Message-ID: <3s5NVF0kNnz1043@submission01.posteo.de>

On 2016-08-05 10:42 wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:
> BTW, what are you debugging CM for? Maybe we could help there.

Thanks for asking. Please see the thread "[Users] sometimes claws
forget the read-status of messages"


From subscript at free.fr  Fri Aug  5 12:58:25 2016
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 12:58:25 +0200
Subject: [Users] understanding my debug output
In-Reply-To: <3s5NVF0kNnz1043@submission01.posteo.de>
References: <3s4vPg6vTlz104C@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160804180112.3d31133c@busgosu>
 <3s50vg1JBMzysW@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160805011322.505fc1e9@busgosu>
 <3s5KJC4zf2z104d@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160805091537.4d9048d2@kujata>
 <3s5KYJ7331z104Z@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160805104223.69726b0b@anthra>
 <3s5NVF0kNnz1043@submission01.posteo.de>
Message-ID: <20160805125825.17dc08b5@anthra>

Hello,


On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 12:34:59 +0200 <c.buhtz at posteo.jp> wrote:

> On 2016-08-05 10:42 wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:
> > BTW, what are you debugging CM for? Maybe we could help there.  
> 
> Thanks for asking. Please see the thread "[Users] sometimes claws
> forget the read-status of messages"

Thanks for clarifying that point!

If really the rssyl mention in debug output is a problem you cannot
live with, I'm sure there's a way to do some clean-up in some config
files.


Regards,

-- 
wwp
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Aug  7 10:30:16 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 09:30:16 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.14.0 unleashed!!
Message-ID: <20160807093016.5de9cac5@kujata>

7th August 2016                                     Claws Mail 3.14.0

		    CLAWS MAIL  RELEASE NOTES
                    http://www.claws-mail.org

Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast 
email client.

New in this release:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

* Passwords can now be secured with a Master Passphrase.
  (/Configuration/Preferences/Other/Miscellaneous/)

* Passwords: The password storage method has changed. All passwords
  are now stored in a separate file, (~/.claws-mail/passwordstorerc),
  and use a stronger encryption than previously. Existing passwords
  are moved to the new file automatically, in the old format. The
  new format will be used whenever old passwords are changed or when
  a Master Passphrase is used. All new passwords are saved using the
  new format, irrespective of whether a Master Passphrase is used or
  not. Further information can be found here:
  http://www.claws-mail.org/doc/password_encryption.txt

* Compose window: Removed the outer scrollbar from header area.

* Message view: The HTML to plain text converter now indicates list
  items with a hyphen (-), adds a line break after <dd>, and indents
  text within blockquotes.

* Main window: Changed default /View/Show or hide/Menubar shortcut to
  Ctrl+F12.

* SSL certificates list: Added automatic scrollbar.

* Address book: Double-clicking datasources now opens the edit
  dialogue. 

* Forwarding: The external editor is now automatically used when
  forwarding as attachment, if the preference is set.

* Preferences: Automatic mail checking can now be configured in
  hours, minutes and seconds.
  (/Configuration/Preferences/Mail Handling/Receiving)

* Preferences: The 'next_on_delete' hidden preference now applies to
  trashing or moving, in addition to deleting, a message.

* Command line: Added -geometry to set geometry for main window.

* IMAP: Added SASL 'PLAIN' and 'LOGIN' authentication methods for
  accounts. Renamed the old plaintext 'LOGIN' to 'plaintext'.

* IMAP: The acccount preference, 'Move deleted mails to trash and
  expunge immediately' has been removed.

* Notification plugin: Added 'Get mail from account...' to the
  SysTray module's menu.

* Notification plugin: Focus the widget between iconify/deiconify
  events.

* Tools: Added tools/cm-reparent.pl, which can be used to fix thread
  parenting for two or more messages.

* Documentation: Updated man page and manual.

* Translations: Updated: Brazilian Portuguese, Catalan, Czech, Dutch,
			 Finnish, French, German, Hungarian, Italian,
			 Slovak, Spanish, Swedish, Traditional
			 Chinese.
		Added: Danish, Indonesian, Turkish.
		Dropped: Lithuanian (unmaintained)

* Bug fixes:
	o bug 2518, '"Reply-All" message from NNTP-account does not
		     contain CC'ed correspondents'
	o bug 2781, 'Unsanitised Folder Creation'
	o bug 3028, 'Claws doesn't select html part if attachments
		     present'
	o bug 3213, 'Line break in subject of message'
	o bug 3573, 'Out of bounds read in macro LBREAK_IF_REQUIRED
		     in codeconv.c'
	o bug 3581, 'sys:1: Warning: Source ID # was not found when
		     attempting to remove it'
	o bug 3603, 'Feeds from Reddit are empty'
	o bug 3610, 'Heap use after free in
		     privacy_mimeinfo_check_signature()'
	o bug 3616, 'segfault setting up new CM in new userid'
	o bug 3623, 'Client crash on importing duplicated feed'
	o bug 3629, 'Invalid subject can distort message list view'
	o bug 3652, 'utils.c:4740:47: warning: ordered comparison of
		     pointer with integer zero [-Wextra]'
	o bug 3653, 'Upgrading from Mageia5 default (3.11.1),
		     3.13.2git tries to load 3.11.1 plugins'
	o bug 3658, 'Passphrase ignored during keypair generation
		     with gpg2'
	o include Reply-To value when using 'reply to all'
	o inputdialog modality and focus issue
	o fix Compose account selection when imap folder is selected.
	o set correct rcdir on Win32
	o Fix behavior in selecting PGP MIME signature on Windows.
	o RSSyl: typo in handling feed name ending with a period on
	  Win32
	o vCalendar: Handle ical lines longer than 256 bytes

For further details of the numbered bugs and RFEs listed above
see http://claws-mail.org/bug/[BUG NUMBER]

---------------------------------------------------------------------
See ChangeLog for full information regarding changes in this release.

	
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From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Sun Aug  7 11:16:04 2016
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 11:16:04 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.14.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20160807093016.5de9cac5@kujata>
References: <20160807093016.5de9cac5@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160807111604.218555fb@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 09:30:16 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> 7th August 2016                                     Claws Mail 3.14.0

Good job, congratulations!!

> * Command line: Added -geometry to set geometry for main window.

I wish FireFox would copy this :( .

-- Johan
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From jerry at seibercom.net  Sun Aug  7 11:50:14 2016
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 05:50:14 -0400
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.14.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20160807093016.5de9cac5@kujata>
References: <20160807093016.5de9cac5@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160807055014.00001104@seibercom.net>

On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 09:30:16 +0100, Paul stated:

>7th August 2016                                     Claws Mail 3.14.0
>
>		    CLAWS MAIL  RELEASE NOTES
>                    http://www.claws-mail.org
>
>Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast 
>email client.

[snip]

Is there a planned date for the release of an MS Windows version?

-- 
Jerry


From rol at witbe.net  Sun Aug  7 11:54:34 2016
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 11:54:34 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.14.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20160807093016.5de9cac5@kujata>
References: <20160807093016.5de9cac5@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160807115434.5c97f25b@riri.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello,

On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 09:30:16 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> 7th August 2016                                     Claws Mail 3.14.0
> 

Installed and running, thanks a lot !	

Best,
Paul
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From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Aug  7 11:55:04 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 11:55:04 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.14.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20160807055014.00001104@seibercom.net>
References: <20160807093016.5de9cac5@kujata>
 <20160807055014.00001104@seibercom.net>
Message-ID: <20160807115504.70ddcb40@penny>

On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 05:50:14 -0400
Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 09:30:16 +0100, Paul stated:
> 
> >7th August 2016                                     Claws Mail 3.14.0
> >
> >		    CLAWS MAIL  RELEASE NOTES
> >                    http://www.claws-mail.org
> >
> >Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast 
> >email client.  
> 
> [snip]
> 
> Is there a planned date for the release of an MS Windows version?

Yes, hopefully later today. I am already working on it.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Sun Aug  7 12:10:27 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 12:10:27 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.14.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20160807115434.5c97f25b@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
References: <20160807093016.5de9cac5@kujata>
 <20160807115434.5c97f25b@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
Message-ID: <20160807121027.4197927f@utnubu>

On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 11:54:34 +0200, Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) wrote:
>On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 09:30:16 +0100 Paul wrote:
>> 7th August 2016                                     Claws Mail 3.14.0
>Installed and running, thanks a lot !

Hi,

regarding the password/s "issue" and my laziness I never upgraded from
3.13.2-1-geb08800 to another commit, instead I provided an outdated
version of libetpan for my install, to be able to stay with
3.13.2-1-geb08800 :D. I'll upgrade tomorrow :).

Thank you!
Ralf

-- 
Death of ROXTerm
https://sourceforge.net/p/roxterm/discussion/422638/thread/60da6975/



From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Sun Aug  7 12:12:11 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 12:12:11 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.14.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20160807121027.4197927f@utnubu>
References: <20160807093016.5de9cac5@kujata>
 <20160807115434.5c97f25b@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20160807121027.4197927f@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160807121211.3b590360@utnubu>

On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 12:10:27 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 11:54:34 +0200, Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) wrote:
>>On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 09:30:16 +0100 Paul wrote:  
>>> 7th August 2016                                     Claws Mail
>>> 3.14.0  
>>Installed and running, thanks a lot !  
>
>Hi,
>
>regarding the password/s "issue" and my laziness I never upgraded from
>3.13.2-1-geb08800 to another commit, instead I provided an outdated
>version of libetpan for my install, to be able to stay with
>3.13.2-1-geb08800 :D. I'll upgrade tomorrow :).
                  ^without the need to recompile against the new
                  lib ;).
-- 
Death of ROXTerm
https://sourceforge.net/p/roxterm/discussion/422638/thread/60da6975/



From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Aug  7 15:17:53 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 15:17:53 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.14.0-1 for Windows unleashed!!
Message-ID: <20160807151753.40cca829@penny>

7th August 2016                                     Claws Mail 3.14.0

              CLAWS MAIL FOR WINDOWS RELEASE NOTES
                http://www.claws-mail.org/win32

Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast
email client.

See http://www.claws-mail.org/news.php for full information regarding
changes since the previous release.

Changes specific to Windows are:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
* Enabled SASL authentication support for IMAP connections, making
  more authentication types possible.
* Claws Mail now uses Windows native file and folder selection
  dialogs, instead of limited GTK+ dialogs.
* Manual PGP key import now works. (bug #3624)
* Exporting a newly-created public PGP key to a keyserver now works.
* Fixed display of PGP signatures for messages signed with PGP/MIME.
* Fixed occasional hangs when working with GnuPG.
* Command line option --select now works correctly when selecting
  folders, as well as individual messages.
* Fixed bsfilter plugin not being able to run the bsfilter program
  correctly.

Note that PGP export and import features mentioned above only work
if your GnuPG installation has correctly configured and accessible
keyservers.
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From iron_order_sucks_ass at openmailbox.org  Sun Aug  7 16:10:58 2016
From: iron_order_sucks_ass at openmailbox.org (JB)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 09:10:58 -0500
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.14.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20160807093016.5de9cac5@kujata>
References: <20160807093016.5de9cac5@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160807091058.36f5420c@FTF.FTG>

On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 09:30:16 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> 7th August 2016                                     Claws Mail 3.14.0
> 
> 		    CLAWS MAIL  RELEASE NOTES
>                     http://www.claws-mail.org
> 
> Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast 
> email client.
> 
>

  <SNIP>

Thanks to Paul and crew! You guys are the best!!


From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Sun Aug  7 16:42:25 2016
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 10:42:25 -0400
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.14.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20160807093016.5de9cac5@kujata>
References: <20160807093016.5de9cac5@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160807104225.693bb86e@mydesk.domain.cxm>

On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 09:30:16 +0100, Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>
wrote:
 
> * Passwords: The password storage method has changed. All passwords
>   are now stored in a separate file, (~/.claws-mail/passwordstorerc),
>   and use a stronger encryption than previously. Existing passwords
>   are moved to the new file automatically, in the old format. The
>   new format will be used whenever old passwords are changed or when
>   a Master Passphrase is used. All new passwords are saved using the
>   new format, irrespective of whether a Master Passphrase is used or
>   not. Further information can be found here:
>   http://www.claws-mail.org/doc/password_encryption.txt

Sounds pretty cool.

Just so I understand: ~/.claws-mail/passwordstorerc should be owned by
the normal user whose home directory is ~, and it should be
permissioned either 400 or 600 so that nobody else can look at it,
right? And any backup procedure should be based on the fact that it can
be read only by its owner or root, right?

One more thing: I use Claws-Mail strictly as a window into my local
Dovecot IMAP server, and the only password I use is to the Dovecot
server, so given my situation, this change won't affect me, right?

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt 
== Whose business shall never be mentioned on the Claws-Mail List ==




-- 
SteveT

Steve Litt
August 2016 featured book: Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting
  Brand new, second edition
http://www.troubleshooters.com/mgr


From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Aug  7 16:47:53 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 16:47:53 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.14.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20160807104225.693bb86e@mydesk.domain.cxm>
References: <20160807093016.5de9cac5@kujata>
 <20160807104225.693bb86e@mydesk.domain.cxm>
Message-ID: <20160807164753.5fa70c4d@penny>

On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 10:42:25 -0400
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

> Just so I understand: ~/.claws-mail/passwordstorerc should be owned by
> the normal user whose home directory is ~, and it should be
> permissioned either 400 or 600 so that nobody else can look at it,
> right? And any backup procedure should be based on the fact that it can
> be read only by its owner or root, right?

Yes, the best permissions for the file are 600, just like accountrc
file where account passwords were stored until now, or few other files,
where various other passwords (e.g. LDAP addressbook, various plugin
passwords) were stored until now.

> One more thing: I use Claws-Mail strictly as a window into my local
> Dovecot IMAP server, and the only password I use is to the Dovecot
> server, so given my situation, this change won't affect me, right?

Ideally, this change won't affect anyone, the passwords should be moved
without user intervention.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Aug  7 17:14:17 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 16:14:17 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.14.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20160807104225.693bb86e@mydesk.domain.cxm>
References: <20160807093016.5de9cac5@kujata>
 <20160807104225.693bb86e@mydesk.domain.cxm>
Message-ID: <20160807161417.3d5d5bac@kujata>

On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 10:42:25 -0400
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote: 

> Steve Litt 
> == Whose business shall never be mentioned on the Claws-Mail List ==

Say what?

--->

> -- 
> SteveT
> 
> Steve Litt
> August 2016 featured book: Manager's Guide to Technical
> Troubleshooting Brand new, second edition
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/mgr


Why not just no signature at all?

with regards

Paul


From emilyj at hiwaay.net  Sun Aug  7 18:09:03 2016
From: emilyj at hiwaay.net (Emily Jackson)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 11:09:03 -0500
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.14.0-1 for Windows unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20160807151753.40cca829@penny>
References: <20160807151753.40cca829@penny>
Message-ID: <20160807110903.00002b10@hiwaay.net>

On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 15:17:53 +0200
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> 7th August 2016                                     Claws Mail 3.14.0
> 
>               CLAWS MAIL FOR WINDOWS RELEASE NOTES
>                 http://www.claws-mail.org/win32

I am using the new Windows version, and now when I trash a message, the
last read message is selected rather than the next unread message, as
it was in 3.13.2. Is there a way to get the old behavior back?

Thanks,

Emily


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Aug  7 18:12:36 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 17:12:36 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.14.0-1 for Windows unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20160807110903.00002b10@hiwaay.net>
References: <20160807151753.40cca829@penny>
 <20160807110903.00002b10@hiwaay.net>
Message-ID: <20160807171236.5474dde3@kujata>

On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 11:09:03 -0500
Emily Jackson <emilyj at hiwaay.net> wrote: 

> I am using the new Windows version, and now when I trash a message,
> the last read message is selected rather than the next unread
> message, as it was in 3.13.2. Is there a way to get the old
> behavior back?


>> * Preferences: The 'next_on_delete' hidden preference now applies
>> to trashing or moving, in addition to deleting, a message.

http://www.claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html#adv_hidden

with regards

Paul


From emilyj at hiwaay.net  Sun Aug  7 18:31:14 2016
From: emilyj at hiwaay.net (Emily Jackson)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 11:31:14 -0500
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.14.0-1 for Windows unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20160807171236.5474dde3@kujata>
References: <20160807151753.40cca829@penny>
 <20160807110903.00002b10@hiwaay.net>
 <20160807171236.5474dde3@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160807113114.00000ae9@hiwaay.net>

On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 17:12:36 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 11:09:03 -0500
> Emily Jackson <emilyj at hiwaay.net> wrote: 
> 
> > I am using the new Windows version, and now when I trash a message,
> > the last read message is selected rather than the next unread
> > message, as it was in 3.13.2. Is there a way to get the old
> > behavior back?  
> 
> 
> >> * Preferences: The 'next_on_delete' hidden preference now applies
> >> to trashing or moving, in addition to deleting, a message.  

Thank you! That did the trick. I did read the release notes and thought
that change might have something to do with the problem I was having,
but I wanted to make sure.

Emily


From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au  Mon Aug  8 07:40:04 2016
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 15:40:04 +1000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3660] SSL Cert change shown on previously accepted
 certificates.
In-Reply-To: <20160804133957.04fa130d@hiker>
References: <bug-3660-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3660-595-nMbXgrI6jj@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <20160714140522.532f0295@PPlive> <20160714080306.41c292d6@kujata>
 <20160728200919.366cb421@PPlive> <20160804211536.5d554db0@PPlive>
 <20160804133957.04fa130d@hiker>
Message-ID: <20160808154004.47691081@PPlive>

On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 13:39:57 +0200
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 21:15:36 +1000
> blind Pete <peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 20:09:19 +1000
> > blind Pete <peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au> wrote:
> > 
> > [snip]
> > > Case two; one URL, multiple certificates.  Is that 
> > > really dangerous?  How? 
> > [snip]
> > 
> > It was a serious question guys.  
> > 
> > The nearest information that I can find about it is,
> > <https://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/591120>, but that is about what
> > happens when a certificate is fraudulently obtained - not two valid
> > certificates.  
> > 
> > When rarely offered a change of certificate for a site, I read it.  
> > When I have to repeatedly click through a random choice of two I am
> > likely to be less careful.  
> > 
> 
> One URL, multiple certificates is easy to "achieve" if the host part
> of the URL is a round-robin DNS record, so you're in fact connecting
> to several different endpoints. All it takes is for one of them not
> having the latest updated certificate.
> 
> That is the case with gmail, like Paul mentioned in sibling post.
> 
> Regards,

OK I am very slowly getting somewhere.  

That is exactly the case that I was thinking of, and I suspect that 
the original poster was thinking of that too.  

It might take Gmail a few hours to propagate new certificates, but 
that is a very minor risk compared to everything else that I was 
thinking of. 

-- 
testing
bP


From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au  Mon Aug  8 07:40:17 2016
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 15:40:17 +1000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3660] SSL Cert change shown on previously accepted
 certificates.
In-Reply-To: <20160804122509.2f21c466@kujata>
References: <bug-3660-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3660-595-nMbXgrI6jj@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <20160714140522.532f0295@PPlive> <20160714080306.41c292d6@kujata>
 <20160728200919.366cb421@PPlive> <20160804211536.5d554db0@PPlive>
 <20160804122509.2f21c466@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160808154017.40000a21@PPlive>

On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 12:25:09 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 21:15:36 +1000
> blind Pete <peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au> wrote: 
> 
> > On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 20:09:19 +1000
> > blind Pete <peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au> wrote:
> > 
> > [snip]
> > > Case two; one URL, multiple certificates.  Is that 
> > > really dangerous?  How?   
> > [snip]
> > 
> > It was a serious question guys.
> 
> It's possible, albeit unusual. However, gmail users will often see
> this during a certificate upgrade which isn't implemented all at once
> across all their servers. That is why I suggested to use
> "Automatically accept valid SSL certificates".
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul

My version of CM is out of date, there is an "unknown" in my version.  

Now to sort out the confusion - maybe.  

"Automatically accept valid SSL certificates" is the thing to do for
Gmail.  (Set ssl_certs_auto_accept=1 in accountrc.)  It introduces a
small security risk, but all of the other alternatives are worse, and
if you were serious about security you probably would hesitate to use
Gmail.  

The OP was told to set unsafe_ssl_certs, a variable in clawsrc.  That
left me saying, "What the hey?" and asking about it, and
skip_ssl_cert_check, neither of which would do what I wanted.  

Please correct me if I am wrong.  

-- 
testing
bP


From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Mon Aug  8 07:58:29 2016
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 07:58:29 +0200
Subject: [Users] Next on delete?
Message-ID: <20160808075829.64c9f771@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

With 3.14.0, when I delete a message, Claws moves to the preceding message
instead of the next. I'm quite sure this was different with 3.13.x.

Is this related to (from the release notes):

  * Preferences: The 'next_on_delete' hidden preference now applies to
    trashing or moving, in addition to deleting, a message.

My next_on_delete is set to 0, I didn't change it recently.

-- Johan


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Aug  8 09:36:55 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 08:36:55 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3660] SSL Cert change shown on previously accepted
 certificates.
In-Reply-To: <20160808154017.40000a21@PPlive>
References: <bug-3660-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3660-595-nMbXgrI6jj@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <20160714140522.532f0295@PPlive> <20160714080306.41c292d6@kujata>
 <20160728200919.366cb421@PPlive> <20160804211536.5d554db0@PPlive>
 <20160804122509.2f21c466@kujata> <20160808154017.40000a21@PPlive>
Message-ID: <20160808083655.7c32d129@kujata>

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 15:40:17 +1000
blind Pete <peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au> wrote: 

> "Automatically accept valid SSL certificates" is the thing to do for
> Gmail.  (Set ssl_certs_auto_accept=1 in accountrc.)  It introduces a
> small security risk, but all of the other alternatives are worse,
> and if you were serious about security you probably would hesitate
> to use Gmail. 

It is not the "thing to do for gmail" but generally the thing to do.
It's what most people do, for example, when using their browsers.
There is no 'small security risk' introduced by doing this, apart
from the inherent risk (if any) of relying on certificates in general.
I don't know where you come up with your summary.

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Aug  8 11:00:49 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2016 09:00:49 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3099] when used in URI,
 (https://USERNAME:MYPASSWORD@mailserver/home/USERNAME/Calendar),
 password stored in plain text
In-Reply-To: <bug-3099-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3099-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3099-595-Kt78Ek1Svq@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3099

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #31 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
vCalendar plugin now stores its passwords in encrypted form.

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Aug  8 11:06:16 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2016 09:06:16 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3283] Encryption scheme for storing email password
	locally
In-Reply-To: <bug-3283-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3283-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3283-595-RwVVmX7OPv@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3283

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
A stronger encryption for all passwords is now in place.

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You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Mon Aug  8 12:06:51 2016
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 12:06:51 +0200
Subject: [Users] sometimes claws forget the read-status of messages
In-Reply-To: <3s5NTc1zYbz104C@submission01.posteo.de>
References: <3s2YKT181Dz105h@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801080844.4bbae7f0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <3s2wpt4x3Rz105q@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801220827.36a4ae1a@kujata>
 <20160801232444.7676e5bb@afrihost.co.za>
 <3s3Rk34tjJz1018@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160802151046.0000109e@netsolutions.in>
 <3s4PqR28y4zyvw@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160803232452.22bac424@penny>
 <3s4vPg5tFWz101F@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160805112056.3b7e82af@hiker>
 <3s5NTc1zYbz104C@submission01.posteo.de>
Message-ID: <20160808120651.27b7a9df@mirrors.kernel.org>

Hey there,

I was waiting for continuation of this, because i saw something similar  ... did i miss a followup mail somehow, or is tis thread simply kind of closed ?


> On 2016-08-05 11:20 Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:
> > Unfortunately, you snipped a little too much,   
> 
> Sorry. ;)
> 
> folderview.c:2205:Folder notify is selected
> folderview.c:2221:Öffne Ordner notify...
> mh.c:228:MH scan required, folder updated: /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify (1470324057 > 1470323949)
> folder.c:2152:Scanning folder notify for cache changes.
> mh.c:298:mh_get_num_list(): Scanning notify ...
> current dir: /home/user/.MyAppData/claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify
> mh.c:1420:MH: forced mtime of notify to 1470324057
> msgcache.c:605:	Reading swapped message cache from /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify/.claws_cache...
> msgcache.c:621:using Noop Converter
> msgcache.c:793:done. (283 items read)
> msgcache.c:794:Cache size: 283 messages, 105710 bytes
> msgcache.c:824:reading swapped mark file.
> msgcache.c:918:reading swapped tags file.
> folder.c:2709:TIMING folder_item_read_cache : 0s001ms
> folder.c:2570:Total cache memory usage: 105710
> msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
> msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 282 messages, 105347 bytes
> folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4779 to update...
> msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 281 messages, 104985 bytes
> folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4784 to update...
> msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 280 messages, 104623 bytes
> folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4785 to update...
> msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 279 messages, 104273 bytes
> folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4786 to update...
> msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 278 messages, 103911 bytes
> folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4792 to update...
> msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 277 messages, 103549 bytes
> folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4795 to update...
> msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 276 messages, 103186 bytes
> folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4796 to update...
> msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 275 messages, 102824 bytes
> folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4797 to update...
> msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 274 messages, 102461 bytes
> folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4798 to update...
> msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 273 messages, 102102 bytes
> folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4802 to update...
> msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 272 messages, 101734 bytes
> [...SNIPPED...]
> folder.c:2288:Remembering message 5047 to update...
> msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 153 messages, 57064 bytes
> folder.c:2288:Remembering message 5048 to update...
> hooks.c:71:registed new hook for 'avatar_header_update' as id 1
> codeconv.c:1509:current locale: de_DE.utf8
> msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 154 messages, 57427 bytes
> msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 155 messages, 57789 bytes
> msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 156 messages, 58151 bytes
> msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 157 messages, 58501 bytes
> msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 158 messages, 58863 bytes
> msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 159 messages, 59225 bytes
> msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 160 messages, 59588 bytes
> msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 161 messages, 59950 bytes
> [...SNIPPED...]
> msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 282 messages, 105360 bytes
> msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 283 messages, 105710 bytes
> folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
> main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service files
> folder.c:4420:processing notify
> folder.c:4423:called inc_lock (lock count 1)
> msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
> filtering.c:198:checking 283 messages
> filtering.c:235:no more messages to move/copy/del
> folder.c:4474:called inc_unlock (lock count 0)
> folder.c:2042:TIMING folder_item_open : 0s231ms
> summaryview.c:1035:showing both
> summaryview.c:1248:called inc_lock (lock count 1)
> summaryview.c:1346:Ordner notify wird durchsucht ...
> msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
> summaryview.c:1210:TIMING summary_check_consistency : 0s000ms
> summaryview.c:1458:TIMING summary_show removing hidden: 0s000ms
> summaryview.c:3128:	Setting summary from message data...
> procmsg.c:301:TIMING procmsg_get_thread_tree thread by subject: 0s001ms
> procmsg.c:311:TIMING procmsg_get_thread_tree : 0s005ms
> summaryview.c:3169:TIMING summary_set_ctree_from_list threaded: 0s014ms
> summaryview.c:3216:done.
> summaryview.c:3219:	msgid hash table size = 283
> summaryview.c:3222:	subject hash table size = 0
> summaryview.c:2990:Sorting summary...summaryview.c:3004:done.
> summaryview.c:3011:TIMING summary_sort : 0s035ms
> summaryview.c:3238:TIMING summary_set_ctree_from_list bold_unread: 0s000ms
> summaryview.c:3243:TIMING summary_set_ctree_from_list : 0s054ms
>     message/rfc822 (offset:0 length:2417 encoding: 6)
>         text/plain (offset:2002 length:415 encoding: 1)
> procmsg.c:1928:Setting flags for message 5048 in folder notify
> folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
> main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service files
>     message/rfc822 (offset:0 length:2417 encoding: 6)
>         text/plain (offset:2002 length:415 encoding: 1)
> textview.c:712:TIMING textview_add_part : 0s074ms
> textview.c:1181:Viewing text content of type: plain (length: 415)
> textview.c:828:TIMING textview_add_part : 0s056ms
> textview.c:845:TIMING recursive_add_parts : 0s056ms
> textview.c:891:TIMING recursive_add_parts : 0s131ms
> textview.c:651:TIMING textview_show_part : 0s132ms
> summaryview.c:3459:flags: doing unset now
> procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 5048 in folder notify
> folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
> main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service files
> summaryview.c:3664:TIMING summary_display_msg_full : 0s171ms
> summaryview.c:1583:
> summaryview.c:1588:called inc_unlock (lock count 0)
> summaryview.c:1589:TIMING summary_show : 0s457ms
> folder.c:2570:Total cache memory usage: 105710
> folderview.c:2283:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s707ms
> folderview.c:2159:newly selected 0x9ac69c0, opened 0x9ac69c0
> folderview.c:2163:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
> main.c:2092:exiting
> msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
> procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4779 in folder notify
> procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4784 in folder notify
> procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4785 in folder notify
> procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4786 in folder notify
> procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4792 in folder notify
> procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4795 in folder notify
> procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4796 in folder notify
> procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4797 in folder notify
> procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4798 in folder notify
> procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4802 in folder notify
> procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4803 in folder notify
> [...SNIPPED...]
> procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 5045 in folder notify
> procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 5046 in folder notify
> procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 5047 in folder notify
> folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
> main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service files
> mh.c:236:MH scan not required: /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify (1470324057 <= 1470324057)
> folder.c:2734:Save cache for folder #mh/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify
> msgcache.c:1189:	Writing message cache to /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify/.claws_cache.new and /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify/.claws_mark.new...
> msgcache.c:1270:done.
> msgcache.c:1271:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s011ms
> mh.c:1420:MH: forced mtime of notify to 1470324157
> folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
> main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service files
> mh.c:236:MH scan not required: /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify (1470324157 <= 1470324157)
> msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
> mh.c:1355:wrote unseen sequence: 'unseen: 4779 4784-4786 4792 4795-4798 4802-4806 4817 4820 4827-4828 4832-4841 4849-4850 4855-4866 4870-4873 4881-4883 4886 4891-4894 4901-4910 4915-4921 4926-4932 4936-4937 4953 4956-4966 4978-4983 4991-4992 4994-4995 4997-5001 5003-5006 5009-5013 5015 5019-5025 5030-5032 5035-5036 5042-5047'
> mh.c:1388:TIMING mh_write_sequences : 0s001ms
> mh.c:1420:MH: forced mtime of notify to 1470324157
> hooks.c:90:unregisted hook 1 in 'folder_item_update'
> hooks.c:90:unregisted hook 1 in 'folder_update'
> main.c:1602:shutting down
> mh.c:228:MH scan required, folder updated: /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/queue (1470324047 > 1470257953)
> folder.c:2734:Save cache for folder #mh/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/queue
> msgcache.c:1189:	Writing message cache to (null) and (null)...
> msgcache.c:1270:done.
> msgcache.c:1271:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s000ms
> mh.c:236:MH scan not required: /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify (1470324157 <= 1470324157)
> folder.c:2734:Save cache for folder #mh/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify
> msgcache.c:1189:	Writing message cache to (null) and (null)...
> msgcache.c:1270:done.
> [...SNIPPED...]
> msgcache.c:1270:done.
> msgcache.c:1271:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s000ms
> prefs_gtk.c:288:Found [Common]
> prefs_gtk.c:332:Configuration is saved.
> addressbook.c:4430:Saving address books...
> addressbook.c:4433:Exporting addressbook to file...
> plugin.c:286:removing /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/claws-mail/plugins/pgpinline.so rdeps
> plugin.c:286:removing /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/claws-mail/plugins/pgpmime.so rdeps
> plugin.c:286:removing /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/claws-mail/plugins/pgpcore.so rdeps
> plugin.c:290: rdep /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/claws-mail/plugins/pgpmime.so: (nil)
> plugin.c:290: rdep /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/claws-mail/plugins/pgpinline.so: (nil)
> prefs_gpg.c:587:set GPG_AGENT_INFO=/home/user/.gnupg/S.gpg-agent:0:1
> hooks.c:90:unregisted hook 1 in 'address_completion_build_address_list_hooklist'
> autocompletion.c:123:PGP address autocompletion hook unregistered
> plugin.c:286:removing /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/claws-mail/plugins/address_keeper.so rdeps
> hooks.c:90:unregisted hook 1 in 'compose_check_before_send'
> address_keeper.c:271:Address Keeper plugin unloaded
> plugin.c:286:removing /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/claws-mail/plugins/fancy.so rdeps
> prefs.c:310:Found [fancy]
> hooks.c:90:unregisted hook 1 in 'avatar_image_render'
> prefs_themes.c:414:Finished preferences for themes.
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users



From andrej at kacian.sk  Mon Aug  8 12:22:50 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 12:22:50 +0200
Subject: [Users] sometimes claws forget the read-status of messages
In-Reply-To: <20160808120651.27b7a9df@mirrors.kernel.org>
References: <3s2YKT181Dz105h@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801080844.4bbae7f0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <3s2wpt4x3Rz105q@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801220827.36a4ae1a@kujata>
 <20160801232444.7676e5bb@afrihost.co.za>
 <3s3Rk34tjJz1018@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160802151046.0000109e@netsolutions.in>
 <3s4PqR28y4zyvw@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160803232452.22bac424@penny>
 <3s4vPg5tFWz101F@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160805112056.3b7e82af@hiker>
 <3s5NTc1zYbz104C@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160808120651.27b7a9df@mirrors.kernel.org>
Message-ID: <20160808122250.279b91e0@hiker>

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 12:06:51 +0200
Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote:

> I was waiting for continuation of this, because i saw something
> similar  ... did i miss a followup mail somehow, or is tis thread
> simply kind of closed ?

Sorry, I meant to reply over the weekend, but I completely forgot, on
account of enjoying the good weather most of the time. :)

The truth is that the dot files really seem to be there:

msgcache.c:605:	Reading swapped message cache from /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify/.claws_cache...
msgcache.c:621:using Noop Converter
msgcache.c:793:done. (283 items read)
msgcache.c:794:Cache size: 283 messages, 105710 bytes
msgcache.c:824:reading swapped mark file.
msgcache.c:918:reading swapped tags file.

I think it would take someone who knows their way around the relevant parts
of Claws Mail code, and at the same time has access to the mail files, since
the debug output is in my view insufficient - the program simply doesn't
print enough debug output in important places to determine what exactly is
wrong.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From jerry at seibercom.net  Mon Aug  8 12:26:29 2016
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 06:26:29 -0400
Subject: [Users] "vcalendar" crashes claws-mail version 3.14.0 on Windows 10
 PRO 64 amd machine
Message-ID: <20160808062629.00000403@seibercom.net>

Using “claws-mail” version 3.14.0 on a Windows 10 PRO amd 64 machine, I
cannot get “vcalendar” to work correctly.

System Information
GTK+ 2.24.30 / GLib 2.49.2
Locale: en_US (charset: ISO-8859-1)
Operating System: Win32

I started “claws-mail” and then loaded the “vcalendar” plugin. That
worked fine. I then attempted to subscribe to my “outlook.com” web
calendar using the “webcal” address. A few seconds after entering the
address, claws-mail crashed. I restarted the program and it immediately
crashed again. The only way I could get the program to restart was to
rename the “vcalendar.dll” in the
“C:\Users\Gerard\AppData\Roaming\Claws-mail\” directory. Once started,
I then shut it down and renamed “vcalendar.dll” back to its original
name. Claws-mail started normally again, although “vcalendar” was not
loaded.

I even cleared out the
“C:\Users\Gerard\AppData\Roaming\Claws-mail\vcalendar”  folder, and the
“C:\Users\Gerard\AppData\Roaming\Claws-mail\vcalendar\multisync”
folder, but that made no difference.

I have no idea how to remove the “webcal” address I entered since I
don’t know where or how it is stored. In any case, I doubt that there
is anything wrong with the address, I did a cut and paste, and it works
in MS Outlook.

I have no idea how to correct this problem, if it is a bug, or even how
to debug it. I am open to suggestions.

-- 
Jerry


From andrej at kacian.sk  Mon Aug  8 12:44:56 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 12:44:56 +0200
Subject: [Users] "vcalendar" crashes claws-mail version 3.14.0 on
 Windows 10 PRO 64 amd machine
In-Reply-To: <20160808062629.00000403@seibercom.net>
References: <20160808062629.00000403@seibercom.net>
Message-ID: <20160808124456.2d0a3cdc@hiker>

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 06:26:29 -0400
Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:

> I have no idea how to remove the “webcal” address I entered since I
> don’t know where or how it is stored. In any case, I doubt that there
> is anything wrong with the address, I did a cut and paste, and it
> works in MS Outlook.
> 
> I have no idea how to correct this problem, if it is a bug, or even
> how to debug it. I am open to suggestions.

Definitely a bug, a crash shouldn't ever happen. Unfortunately, it will
be hard to fix, unless one of the developers (or anyone else who is
willing to work on fixing the bug) gets their hand on a webcal address
with which they can reproduce this crash.

I do not use vcalendar at all, and am not really familiar with it, but
you can try removing the offending webcal from folderlist.xml in the
Claws Mail user directory (the one you mentioned in your mail). You can
carefully remove just the one <folderitem ... /> line with the webcal
address. It will probably be somewhere near the bottom.

Do it while Claws Mail is not running, and make sure you make a backup
copy of the file, just in case.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From jerry at seibercom.net  Mon Aug  8 13:20:36 2016
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 07:20:36 -0400
Subject: [Users] "vcalendar" crashes claws-mail version 3.14.0 on
 Windows 10 PRO 64 amd machine
In-Reply-To: <20160808124456.2d0a3cdc@hiker>
References: <20160808062629.00000403@seibercom.net>
 <20160808124456.2d0a3cdc@hiker>
Message-ID: <20160808072036.00006873@seibercom.net>

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 12:44:56 +0200, Andrej Kacian stated:

>Definitely a bug, a crash shouldn't ever happen. Unfortunately, it will
>be hard to fix, unless one of the developers (or anyone else who is
>willing to work on fixing the bug) gets their hand on a webcal address
>with which they can reproduce this crash.

I would be happy to send one of the developers the webcal address. I can
always remove permissions on it one a fix is found.

-- 
Jerry


From c.buhtz at posteo.jp  Mon Aug  8 16:15:43 2016
From: c.buhtz at posteo.jp (c.buhtz at posteo.jp)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 16:15:43 +0200
Subject: [Users] sometimes claws forget the read-status of messages
In-Reply-To: <20160808122250.279b91e0@hiker>
References: <3s2YKT181Dz105h@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801080844.4bbae7f0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <3s2wpt4x3Rz105q@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801220827.36a4ae1a@kujata>
 <20160801232444.7676e5bb@afrihost.co.za>
 <3s3Rk34tjJz1018@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160802151046.0000109e@netsolutions.in>
 <3s4PqR28y4zyvw@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160803232452.22bac424@penny>
 <3s4vPg5tFWz101F@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160805112056.3b7e82af@hiker>
 <3s5NTc1zYbz104C@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160808120651.27b7a9df@mirrors.kernel.org>
 <20160808122250.279b91e0@hiker>
Message-ID: <3s7KFg07Zdz104W@submission01.posteo.de>

On 2016-08-08 12:22 Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:
> The truth is that the dot files really seem to be there:
> [...]
> I think it would take someone who knows their way around the relevant
> parts of Claws Mail code, and at the same time has access to the mail
> files, since the debug output is in my view insufficient

I would try to build a new version (with better debug output) on my
system.


From boxcars at gmx.net  Mon Aug  8 18:21:41 2016
From: boxcars at gmx.net (=?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?=)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 11:21:41 -0500
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1920] No automatic NNTP filtering
References: <bug-1920-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-1920-595-NiR5k2avgk@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20160808112141.0dc24fb6@sepulchrave.remarqs>

On Tue, 01 Dec 2015 19:29:09 +0000
noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:

> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1920
> 
> --- Comment #8 from boxcars at gmx.net ---
> These patches still apply to 3.13.0.

And to 3.14.0.  This is just another ping in hopes they get reviewed
and added to Claws before they bitrot. :)



From larry at jaffeworld.net  Mon Aug  8 18:42:32 2016
From: larry at jaffeworld.net (Larry Jaffe)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 12:42:32 -0400
Subject: [Users] The command 'bsfilterw.exe' couldn't be run.
In-Reply-To: <20160721164058.000044c4@jaffeworld.net>
References: <20160721164058.000044c4@jaffeworld.net>
Message-ID: <20160808124232.63e88a86@ljaffe-VirtualBox>

I have claws-mail 3.14 on Windows 10 and bsfilter seems to be
having a problem.  when I open claws-mail I get a dialog with the
following error message: "the Bsfilter plugin couldn't filter a
message.  The command 'bsfilterw.exe' coundn't be run.

I had the same problem with 3.13 and hoped that the new release would
fix it. I uninstalled 3.13 and deleted the appdata/roaming/claws-mail
folder before installing the new version.

I tried manually adding the plugins diretory to the PATH environment
variable, but no joy.


Any suggestions?
/Larry


From andrej at kacian.sk  Mon Aug  8 19:15:31 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 19:15:31 +0200
Subject: [Users] The command 'bsfilterw.exe' couldn't be run.
In-Reply-To: <20160808124232.63e88a86@ljaffe-VirtualBox>
References: <20160721164058.000044c4@jaffeworld.net>
 <20160808124232.63e88a86@ljaffe-VirtualBox>
Message-ID: <20160808191531.6b5db16c@penny>

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 12:42:32 -0400
Larry Jaffe <larry at jaffeworld.net> wrote:

> I have claws-mail 3.14 on Windows 10 and bsfilter seems to be
> having a problem.  when I open claws-mail I get a dialog with the
> following error message: "the Bsfilter plugin couldn't filter a
> message.  The command 'bsfilterw.exe' coundn't be run.

Yes, I am sometimes getting it myself, when receiving new messages on
an IMAP account. Only sometimes, though, the filtering on receive mostly
works.

Manual filtering (mark as ham, mark as spam) seems to work all the time.

I will have to have a closer look at why it happens. Sorry about that.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From larry at jaffeworld.net  Mon Aug  8 19:28:41 2016
From: larry at jaffeworld.net (Larry Jaffe)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 13:28:41 -0400
Subject: [Users] The command 'bsfilterw.exe' couldn't be run.
In-Reply-To: <20160808191531.6b5db16c@penny>
References: <20160721164058.000044c4@jaffeworld.net>
 <20160808124232.63e88a86@ljaffe-VirtualBox>
 <20160808191531.6b5db16c@penny>
Message-ID: <20160808132841.12e4c63a@ljaffe-VirtualBox>

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 19:15:31 +0200
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 12:42:32 -0400
> Larry Jaffe <larry at jaffeworld.net> wrote:
> 
> > I have claws-mail 3.14 on Windows 10 and bsfilter seems to be
> > having a problem.  when I open claws-mail I get a dialog with the
> > following error message: "the Bsfilter plugin couldn't filter a
> > message.  The command 'bsfilterw.exe' coundn't be run.  
> 
> Yes, I am sometimes getting it myself, when receiving new messages on
> an IMAP account. Only sometimes, though, the filtering on receive
> mostly works.
> 
> Manual filtering (mark as ham, mark as spam) seems to work all the
> time.
> 
> I will have to have a closer look at why it happens. Sorry about that.
> 
> Regards,

Yes my account is IMAP too.  For me it happens each time I start
Claws.  I don't see it again after that.  Manual filtering works for me
too, except that SPAM gets marked as read when it gets moved to my spam
folder even though I have unchecked the 'mark spam as read' in the
bsfilter preferences.


From joe at khamis.com.au  Tue Aug  9 05:48:54 2016
From: joe at khamis.com.au (Joe Khamis)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 13:48:54 +1000
Subject: [Users] Version 3.14.0, HTML messages & Fancy plugin
Message-ID: <20160809134854.20f7ca36@linux-h4bv>

Greetings all.

Downloaded and compiled 3.14.0 today (Tumbleweed).

No great dramas with the exception displaying HTML messages.

I suspect it has to do with the 'Fancy' plugin.

Any help would be appreciated.

-- 

Joe Khamis | Director | Khamis Consulting Pty. Ltd.
Email: joe at khamis.com.au | Mobile: +61 412 201 711
LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/pub/joe-khamis/4/b81/671
Twitter: http://twitter.com/joekhamis




From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Tue Aug  9 07:18:11 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 07:18:11 +0200
Subject: [Users] Version 3.14.0, HTML messages & Fancy plugin
In-Reply-To: <20160809134854.20f7ca36@linux-h4bv>
References: <20160809134854.20f7ca36@linux-h4bv>
Message-ID: <20160809071811.1e744831@utnubu>

On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 13:48:54 +1000, Joe Khamis wrote:
>No great dramas with the exception displaying HTML messages.

Hi,

my Claws 3.14.0-2-ge48b739 is set up to display plain text only, so I
can't say anything to HTML issues. However, if I were you, I would
describe the issue more detailed.

Regards,
Ralf

-- 
Death of ROXTerm
https://sourceforge.net/p/roxterm/discussion/422638/thread/60da6975/



From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Tue Aug  9 08:03:50 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 08:03:50 +0200
Subject: [Users] Version 3.14.0, HTML messages & Fancy plugin
In-Reply-To: <20160809071811.1e744831@utnubu>
References: <20160809134854.20f7ca36@linux-h4bv>
 <20160809071811.1e744831@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160809080350.1e20a6d8@utnubu>

On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 07:18:11 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 13:48:54 +1000, Joe Khamis wrote:
>>No great dramas with the exception displaying HTML messages.  
>
>my Claws 3.14.0-2-ge48b739 is set up to display plain text only, so I
>can't say anything to HTML issues. However, if I were you, I would
>describe the issue more detailed.

PS:

Could it be an issue related to the prefix? IOW perhaps the expected
location of the plugin might be

  /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/

but you perhaps installed to

  /usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/

maybe you only need to unload and after that to load the plugin again.



From jerry at seibercom.net  Tue Aug  9 12:26:09 2016
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 06:26:09 -0400
Subject: [Users] The command 'bsfilterw.exe' couldn't be run.
In-Reply-To: <20160808124232.63e88a86@ljaffe-VirtualBox>
References: <20160721164058.000044c4@jaffeworld.net>
 <20160808124232.63e88a86@ljaffe-VirtualBox>
Message-ID: <20160809062609.00006738@seibercom.net>

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 12:42:32 -0400, Larry Jaffe stated:

>I have claws-mail 3.14 on Windows 10 and bsfilter seems to be
>having a problem.  when I open claws-mail I get a dialog with the
>following error message: "the Bsfilter plugin couldn't filter a
>message.  The command 'bsfilterw.exe' coundn't be run.
>
>I had the same problem with 3.13 and hoped that the new release would
>fix it. I uninstalled 3.13 and deleted the appdata/roaming/claws-mail
>folder before installing the new version.
>
>I tried manually adding the plugins diretory to the PATH environment
>variable, but no joy.

Since updating, I have had this problem to intermittently.

-- 
Jerry


From jerry at seibercom.net  Tue Aug  9 16:01:44 2016
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 10:01:44 -0400
Subject: [Users] "vcalendar" crashes claws-mail version 3.14.0 on
 Windows 10 PRO 64 amd machine
In-Reply-To: <20160809095502.3a2253a8@hiker>
References: <20160808062629.00000403@seibercom.net>
 <20160808124456.2d0a3cdc@hiker>
 <20160808072036.00006873@seibercom.net>
 <20160808153101.538085c2@hiker>
 <20160808121125.00005dc8@seibercom.net>
 <20160809095502.3a2253a8@hiker>
Message-ID: <20160809100144.00006488@seibercom.net>

On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 09:55:02 +0200, Andrej Kacian stated:

>Thanks, I was able to reproduce the crash, and I also found a problem.
>One of the recurring events in that webcal go up to year 2038 and
>beyond, which is a problem for a 32-bit application. See
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem
>
>I'll need to figure out how to work around it correctly.

Do you think I should just file  bug report on this?

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From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Tue Aug  9 16:06:31 2016
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 07:06:31 -0700
Subject: [Users] Delete emails on server
Message-ID: <20160809070631.41f9c7ed@frogguski.911networks.com>

Hi,

I'm still on CM 3.13.2 on arch.

Account POP3 -> delete after 7 days

Is there a way of deleting emails when they are deleted from the
trash (mostly spam)?

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vyS


From andrej at kacian.sk  Tue Aug  9 18:01:08 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 18:01:08 +0200
Subject: [Users] "vcalendar" crashes claws-mail version 3.14.0 on
 Windows 10 PRO 64 amd machine
In-Reply-To: <20160809100144.00006488@seibercom.net>
References: <20160808062629.00000403@seibercom.net>
 <20160808124456.2d0a3cdc@hiker>
 <20160808072036.00006873@seibercom.net>
 <20160808153101.538085c2@hiker>
 <20160808121125.00005dc8@seibercom.net>
 <20160809095502.3a2253a8@hiker>
 <20160809100144.00006488@seibercom.net>
Message-ID: <20160809180108.373000ea@penny>

On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 10:01:44 -0400
Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 09:55:02 +0200, Andrej Kacian stated:
> 
> >Thanks, I was able to reproduce the crash, and I also found a problem.
> >One of the recurring events in that webcal go up to year 2038 and
> >beyond, which is a problem for a 32-bit application. See
> >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem
> >
> >I'll need to figure out how to work around it correctly.  
> 
> Do you think I should just file  bug report on this?

It won't make the fix come any sooner, since I'm probably the only one
who will be working on it, but if you have some spare time, I guess it
might help other people who run into this bug before it's fixed.

Regards,
-- 
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From jerry at seibercom.net  Tue Aug  9 20:08:29 2016
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 14:08:29 -0400
Subject: [Users] "vcalendar" crashes claws-mail version 3.14.0 on
 Windows 10 PRO 64 amd machine
In-Reply-To: <20160809180108.373000ea@penny>
References: <20160808062629.00000403@seibercom.net>
 <20160808124456.2d0a3cdc@hiker>
 <20160808072036.00006873@seibercom.net>
 <20160808153101.538085c2@hiker>
 <20160808121125.00005dc8@seibercom.net>
 <20160809095502.3a2253a8@hiker>
 <20160809100144.00006488@seibercom.net>
 <20160809180108.373000ea@penny>
Message-ID: <20160809140829.0000553f@seibercom.net>

On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 18:01:08 +0200, Andrej Kacian stated:

>It won't make the fix come any sooner, since I'm probably the only one
>who will be working on it, but if you have some spare time, I guess it
>might help other people who run into this bug before it's fixed.

I do have a question. Apparently, if I am reading the wiki correctly,
the problem exists with *.nix systems, hence the "Unix Millennium Bug"
name. Apparently, this problem does not exist under MS Windows. Since I
am running the MS Windows version of claws-mail, why can't you use the
same method that Microsoft does to store the date? If there were a 64
bit version of claws-mail, that problem would not exist anywhere. In
any case, thanks for your assistance with this problem.

Just my 2 cents.

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From waterhouseandy at onetel.com  Tue Aug  9 20:11:51 2016
From: waterhouseandy at onetel.com (Andy)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 19:11:51 +0100
Subject: [Users] Help with Claws email restoration following Windows 7
	reinstall
Message-ID: <20160809191151.000027b5@onetel.com>

Hi,

Would appreciate some guidance in getting Claws email up and running
again...

Just to point out that my level of computer expertise hovers around the
baseline so if anyone is kind enough to reply, could I please request
minimal jargon and 'layman's' explanations - many thanks.

Have been using Claws email successfully for a good few months until
my PC packed up (motherboard problem but HDD was fine)and I purchased a
new one (minus operating system). Claws suits my use perfectly (speedy
software, a clean-looking interface and a versatile range of plug-ins)
so I'd like to get Claws-mail up and running on the new PC.

I 'backed up' all the files from my old setup onto a NAS using Windows 7
backup utility just minutes before the old PC failed and have restored
all backed up files to their original locations following a 'clean'
Windows 7 installation. Only it didn't seem to work perfectly (various
issues which I don't fully understand). However, the PC's second user
had no problems with Claws email which simply carried on where it had
left off when I opened the program, i.e. account details and address
book entries loaded fine together with populated Inbox, Sent, Wastebin
etc folders.

My email account however didn't work. I manually
re-input my account details (hence this email) but no address book and
only the Inbox is populated - all other folders are empty. I've found
the folder that is supposed to contain my address book
(addrbook_000002.xml)and it's empty! Fortunately, I inserted the old
HDD into the new PC as the second HDD so I have access to that and
can see all the expected entries in my addrbook folder. I hope that
folders somewhere also contain my Sent and Wastebin entries too?!?

Question is: How can I 'point' Claws email to the address book and
Inbox, Sent and Wastebin folders on the old HDD? Or is there a different
solution?

Apologies for length of email and thanks for taking the time to read it.

Kind regards.

- 

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From codejodler at gmx.ch  Wed Aug 10 00:49:21 2016
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 00:49:21 +0200
Subject: [Users] Help with Claws email restoration following Windows 7
 reinstall
In-Reply-To: <20160809191151.000027b5@onetel.com>
References: <20160809191151.000027b5@onetel.com>
Message-ID: <20160810004921.1f170503@mirrors.kernel.org>

Andy,

Can you tell if you're downloading emails completely to your computer via POP protocol, or are you using IMAP which basically is just managing the mails on their server, even if a synced version got downloaded on demand ? I'm not sure how to deal with IMAP, but here's what i can tell about POP. 

I think you can just copy the stuff over, from the old HD to the new one. I'm not using Windows so i can only guess - but you need to find the Mail folder (containing the mail folders and files) somewhere in your user home directory, using File Explorer, then copy all mails from the old HD into the respective folders of the new install. Then, in claws, you right-click on the mail folder (top level, uppermost entry in the folder list on the left) and chose "rebuild folder tree". 

The following is experimental, dunno if it works that easily  --  but If you've used the new claws already and copy warnings appear about doubles (already existing in the new folder tree), note their names and location in the old tree, and rename them to another, unused / unique number, then repeat copying. For example, if file 6 already exists, rename it to 10 or 20. I hope any number will work. 

The addressbook is in another place, the claws config directory, and you probably can just overwrite the new, empty addressbook file with the old one. There's nothing to loose anyway, so just give it a try.

It comes with no guarantee since i've never really done something like this. I hope someone with more confidence will have a look and correct me if i'm mistaken.




From andrej at kacian.sk  Wed Aug 10 01:11:30 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 01:11:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] Help with Claws email restoration following Windows 7
 reinstall
In-Reply-To: <20160809191151.000027b5@onetel.com>
References: <20160809191151.000027b5@onetel.com>
Message-ID: <20160810011130.4730f747@penny>

On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 19:11:51 +0100
Andy <waterhouseandy at onetel.com> wrote:

> Question is: How can I 'point' Claws email to the address book and
> Inbox, Sent and Wastebin folders on the old HDD? Or is there a different
> solution?

For mail, you should copy the whole mail folder - originally something
like C:\Users\yourname\AppData\Roaming\Mail, the path will be likely
different for your old disk. Copy it to the equivalent path on the new
disk.

Then you can use "File/Add mailbox.../MH..." menu item to add it. Enter
"Mail", and Claws Mail should open and read it.

For addressbook, you will have to copy all the .xml files from your old
data folder to the new one. You can also copy the entire old
configuration folder (originally at
C:\Users\yourname\AppData\Roaming\Claws-mail) to the new disk, and
you should have all your settings back when you start the program next.



Regards,
-- 
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From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Wed Aug 10 01:33:00 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 01:33:00 +0200
Subject: [Users] Help with Claws email restoration following Windows 7
 reinstall
In-Reply-To: <20160810004921.1f170503@mirrors.kernel.org>
References: <20160809191151.000027b5@onetel.com>
 <20160810004921.1f170503@mirrors.kernel.org>
Message-ID: <20160810013300.5c4ba1d5@utnubu>

On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 00:49:21 +0200, Michael wrote:
>in claws, you right-click on the mail folder (top level,
>uppermost entry in the folder list on the left) and chose "rebuild
>folder tree". 

For testing purpose I did it with my Linux install.

Inside my "Claws Mail (MH)", "Claws Mail" was generated, but two of the
sub directories and all their mails were completely missing and while
all the other sub directories were available, the folders have less
unread and less total mails than the originals and some are mentioned as
new, while for the original folders no mail are new at all.

I repeated it, but nothing changed.

I deleted the new parent folder "Claws Mail" and hope that the original
folder "Claws Mail (MH)" didn't change ;).

Copying should be the same as linking [1], or as simply opening Claws
after bootup.

Everything should be as expected, without the need to do anything.

And "Rebuild folder tree" only incompletely doubles the available POP
mails.

I suspect this is an option for IMAP usage and I wish I could remove it
from my menu. However, I have the impression the original "Claws Mail
(MH)" is still ok and removing the new "Claws Mail" that was build by
"Rebuild folder tree", gave me back the state it was before.

Regards,
Ralf

[1]
[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ ls -GAg /mnt/moonstudio/home/weremouse/|grep /mnt
lrwxrwxrwx  1    43 Oct  6  2015 .bogofilter -> /mnt/archlinux/home/rocketmouse/.bogofilter
lrwxrwxrwx  1    43 Oct  6  2015 .claws-mail -> /mnt/archlinux/home/rocketmouse/.claws-mail
lrwxrwxrwx  1    42 Oct  6  2015 Claws Mail -> /mnt/archlinux/home/rocketmouse/Claws Mail



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 10 02:04:13 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 00:04:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3664] New: Failed to build on macOS due to absence of
 gdk/gdkx.h
Message-ID: <bug-3664-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3664

            Bug ID: 3664
           Summary: Failed to build on macOS due to absence of gdk/gdkx.h
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Mac OS X 10.1
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: yurikoles at gmail.com

x11/tomboykeybinder.c:8:10: fatal error: 'gdk/gdkx.h' file not found
#include <gdk/gdkx.h>
         ^
1 error generated.
make[5]: *** [x11/libcmnpgtkhotkey_la-tomboykeybinder.lo] Error 1
make[5]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
x11/eggaccelerators.c:24:10: fatal error: 'gdk/gdkx.h' file not found
#include <gdk/gdkx.h>
         ^
1 error generated.
make[5]: *** [x11/libcmnpgtkhotkey_la-eggaccelerators.lo] Error 1
make[4]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: *** [install] Error 2
make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 10 02:04:40 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 00:04:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3664] Failed to build on macOS due to absence of
	gdk/gdkx.h
In-Reply-To: <bug-3664-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3664-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3664-595-X03D7ZrRwr@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3664

Yurii Kolesnykov <yurikoles at gmail.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Hardware|PC                          |Macintosh

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 10 02:08:12 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 00:08:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3665] New: Fix config script for macOS
Message-ID: <bug-3665-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3665

            Bug ID: 3665
           Summary: Fix config script for macOS
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Mac OS X 10.1
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: yurikoles at gmail.com

Created attachment 1670
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 10 04:23:27 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 02:23:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3665] Fix config script for macOS
In-Reply-To: <bug-3665-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3665-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3665-595-RwQgL1JCFA@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3665

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Created attachment 1671
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a different approach

The change to src/Makefile.am is incorrect, as it will force the LDFLAGS needed
by OSX also to other non-Windows systems. Can you test this patch instead?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 10 04:26:43 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 02:26:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3664] Failed to build on macOS due to absence of
	gdk/gdkx.h
In-Reply-To: <bug-3664-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3664-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3664-595-Ifc0zqgLVk@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3664

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Are you sure this is a Claws Mail bug? We do not have source files such as
x11/tomboykeybinder.c or x11/eggaccelerators.c. Seems to me like you were
compiling some part of GNOME.

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From claws-mail_user at thehugheslogcabin.net  Wed Aug 10 05:06:53 2016
From: claws-mail_user at thehugheslogcabin.net (Michael Hughes)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 22:06:53 -0500
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.14.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20160807093016.5de9cac5@kujata>
References: <20160807093016.5de9cac5@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160809220653.041833ce@thehugheslogcabin.net>

On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 09:30:16 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> 7th August 2016                                     Claws Mail 3.14.0
> 
> 		    CLAWS MAIL  RELEASE NOTES
>                     http://www.claws-mail.org
> 
> Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast 
> email client.

Compiled and running on FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p39:

Claws Mail version 3.14.0git2
runtime GTK+ 2.24.22 / GLib 2.42.1
buildtime GTK+ 2.24.22 / GLib 2.42.1
Compiled-in features:
 Enchant
 GnuTLS
 IPv6
 LDAP
 libetpan 1.6
 libSM


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 10 10:27:21 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 08:27:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3664] Failed to build on macOS due to absence of
	gdk/gdkx.h
In-Reply-To: <bug-3664-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3664-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3664-595-hOolMVWt7h@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3664

--- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> Are you sure this is a Claws Mail bug? We do not have source files such as
> x11/tomboykeybinder.c or x11/eggaccelerators.c. Seems to me like you were
> compiling some part of GNOME.

Disregard my above comment, it was pointed out to me that we _do_ have those
files, within our notification plugin. I guess some autoconf magic will be
needed to include correct header (x11/gdk/gdkx.h, perhaps) on macOS.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 10 21:59:04 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 19:59:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3666] New: Typos in Turkish translation
Message-ID: <bug-3666-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3666

            Bug ID: 3666
           Summary: Typos in Turkish translation
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Translations
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: sub at ryper.org

Created attachment 1672
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patch of typo corrections

Hi there,

Looking over the new Turkish translation (which I'm thrilled about! :D ) I
noticed that there was a typo on the "Get Mail" button in version 3.14.0 (it
says E-psota instead of E-posta). I took a quick look through the latest git
version and I found the typo in three places in the tr.po file. I have attached
the patch to fix these.

If I find any more typos as I use the new translation I will submit a new bug.

Thanks!

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From dan_arico at aricosystems.com  Wed Aug 10 22:05:39 2016
From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 16:05:39 -0400
Subject: [Users] Changed behavior
Message-ID: <20160810160539.498f839d.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>

Yesterday, an update claws-mail appeared on the Suse repositories.
After the installation, I saw some behavior had changed.

Now when I delete an email, the focus goes to the previous email
instead of the next one. I've been searching, but I can't find where
this is set.

Can someone help me out?

Dan Arico

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From epodata at gmail.com  Wed Aug 10 22:13:11 2016
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 22:13:11 +0200
Subject: [Users] Changed behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160810160539.498f839d.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
References: <20160810160539.498f839d.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
Message-ID: <20160810221311.19955130@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>

On 2016-08-10 at 16:05:39 Dan Arico wrote:

> Yesterday, an update claws-mail appeared on the Suse repositories.
> After the installation, I saw some behavior had changed.
> 
> Now when I delete an email, the focus goes to the previous email
> instead of the next one. I've been searching, but I can't find where
> this is set.
> 
> Can someone help me out?
 
~/.claws-mail/clawsrc/next_on_delete=1

-- 
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From dan_arico at aricosystems.com  Wed Aug 10 22:36:28 2016
From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 16:36:28 -0400
Subject: [Users] Changed behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160810221311.19955130@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20160810160539.498f839d.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
 <20160810221311.19955130@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20160810163628.3ccb4ec5.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>

On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 22:13:11 +0200
"Erik P. Olsen" <epodata at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2016-08-10 at 16:05:39 Dan Arico wrote:
> 
> > Yesterday, an update claws-mail appeared on the Suse repositories.
> > After the installation, I saw some behavior had changed.
> > 
> > Now when I delete an email, the focus goes to the previous email
> > instead of the next one. I've been searching, but I can't find where
> > this is set.
> > 
> > Can someone help me out?  
>  
> ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc/next_on_delete=1
> 

That was easy. Thank you.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 10 21:59:04 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 19:59:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3666] Typos in Turkish translation
In-Reply-To: <bug-3666-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3666-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3666-595-vCLtuT3cFE@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3666

--- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2016-08-11 01:32:03.541204297 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=17280182e270748aa673b2e7b57dd4065973c05e
Merge: 4992e5d 9b4db07
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Thu Aug 11 01:32:02 2016 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b4db07323d7b643fc10458a25e1df1b23ee8e69
Author: Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
Date:   Thu Aug 11 01:27:55 2016 +0200

    Fix bug #3666: Typos in Turkish translation

    X-Patch-Thanks-To: rypervenche <sub at ryper.org>

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Aug 11 01:32:46 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 23:32:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3666] Typos in Turkish translation
In-Reply-To: <bug-3666-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3666-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3666-595-X2yiKABW3b@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3666

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

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From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Thu Aug 11 08:08:38 2016
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 08:08:38 +0200
Subject: [Users] Changed behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160810221311.19955130@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20160810160539.498f839d.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
 <20160810221311.19955130@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20160811080838.76438111@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 22:13:11 +0200
"Erik P. Olsen" <epodata at gmail.com> wrote:

> > Now when I delete an email, the focus goes to the previous email
> > instead of the next one. I've been searching, but I can't find where
> > this is set.
> > 
> > Can someone help me out?  
>  
> ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc/next_on_delete=1

I'd think the question is whether this should have
been the default, thus avoiding a behaviour change.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Aug 11 08:30:46 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 07:30:46 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changed behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160811080838.76438111@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
References: <20160810160539.498f839d.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
 <20160810221311.19955130@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160811080838.76438111@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <20160811073046.28dbdb5d@kujata>

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 08:08:38 +0200
Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl> wrote: 

> I'd think the question is whether this should have
> been the default, thus avoiding a behaviour change.

That would have still been a behaviour change for deleting messages.

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Aug 11 08:33:02 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 07:33:02 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changed behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160811073046.28dbdb5d@kujata>
References: <20160810160539.498f839d.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
 <20160810221311.19955130@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160811080838.76438111@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20160811073046.28dbdb5d@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160811073302.40758f12@kujata>

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 07:30:46 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote: 

> That would have still been a behaviour change for deleting messages.

And that would also depend on which way you sort.

with regards

Paul


From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Thu Aug 11 08:51:41 2016
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 08:51:41 +0200
Subject: [Users] Problem finding new folders
Message-ID: <20160811085141.676bddee@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

Hi,

I have a INBOX that connects to a dovecot IMAP server.
Somehow Claws stopped being able to find new folders.

I'm pretty sure this worked in the past and I cannot say whether it was a
Claws upgrade or a Dovecot upgrade or something else that made it stop
working.

The current situation is that "Check for new folders" returns a list of
folders for a specific sublist 'Lists':

[08:36:25] IMAP4> 2780 LSUB "" "Lists.%" 
[08:36:25] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.Perl 
[08:36:25] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.Test 
[08:36:25] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.News_plus 
[08:36:25] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.Openbox 
[08:36:25] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.Davical-general 
[08:36:25] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.Developers 
[08:36:25] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.Gramps-announce 
[08:36:25] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.Music 
[08:36:25] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.DTP_Graphics 
[08:36:25] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.Tasks 
[08:36:25] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.Business-calendar 
[08:36:25] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.Abbyy-ocr-for-linux 
[08:36:25] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.Davclients 
[08:36:25] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.Mediawiki-announce 
[08:36:25] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.Passwordsafe 
[08:36:25] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.Claws-Mail 
[08:36:25] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.Templates 
[08:36:25] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.Spksrc 
[08:36:25] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.Bugzilla 
[08:36:25] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.Client 
[08:36:25] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.EekBoek-devel 
[08:36:25] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.EekBoek-users 
[08:36:25] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.wxGlade-general 
[08:36:25] IMAP4< 2780 OK Lsub completed. 

There should have been an entry Lists.Bits_of_Freedom, since there is such a
folder on the server.

When I manually create this folder in Claws, I immedeately get the messages
that were in this folder. So it definitely did exist.

After creating (and accessing) the group from Claws, "Check for new
folders" includes it:

[08:38:13] IMAP4> 2984 LSUB "" "Lists.%" 
[08:38:13] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.Perl 
[08:38:13] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.Test 
...
[08:38:13] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.wxGlade-general 
[08:38:13] IMAP4< * LSUB () "." Lists.Bits_of_Freedom 
[08:38:13] IMAP4< 2984 OK Lsub completed. 

However, this takes the usefulness out of the "Check for new folders"
function.

Any idea what is going wrong here?

-- Johan


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Aug 11 08:57:29 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 07:57:29 +0100
Subject: [Users] Problem finding new folders
In-Reply-To: <20160811085141.676bddee@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
References: <20160811085141.676bddee@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <20160811075729.0a6b28c4@kujata>

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 08:51:41 +0200
Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl> wrote: 

> Any idea what is going wrong here?

Looks like you are showing subscribed folders only and this folder was
not subscribed.

with regards

Paul


From c.buhtz at posteo.jp  Thu Aug 11 09:28:17 2016
From: c.buhtz at posteo.jp (c.buhtz at posteo.jp)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 09:28:17 +0200
Subject: [Users] sometimes claws forget the read-status of messages
In-Reply-To: <3s7KFg07Zdz104W@submission01.posteo.de>
References: <3s2YKT181Dz105h@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801080844.4bbae7f0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <3s2wpt4x3Rz105q@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160801220827.36a4ae1a@kujata>
 <20160801232444.7676e5bb@afrihost.co.za>
 <3s3Rk34tjJz1018@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160802151046.0000109e@netsolutions.in>
 <3s4PqR28y4zyvw@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160803232452.22bac424@penny>
 <3s4vPg5tFWz101F@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160805112056.3b7e82af@hiker>
 <3s5NTc1zYbz104C@submission01.posteo.de>
 <20160808120651.27b7a9df@mirrors.kernel.org>
 <20160808122250.279b91e0@hiker>
 <3s7KFg07Zdz104W@submission01.posteo.de>
Message-ID: <3s904B2GJ7z104W@submission01.posteo.de>

On 2016-08-08 16:15 <c.buhtz at posteo.jp> wrote:
> I would try to build a new version (with better debug output) on my
> system.

I meant when a developer would provide modified code with better debug
output I would test this in my environment to check out what goes wrong
here.


From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Thu Aug 11 09:49:22 2016
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 09:49:22 +0200
Subject: [Users] Problem finding new folders
In-Reply-To: <20160811075729.0a6b28c4@kujata>
References: <20160811085141.676bddee@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20160811075729.0a6b28c4@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160811094922.2d372bc5@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 07:57:29 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 08:51:41 +0200
> Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl> wrote: 
> 
> > Any idea what is going wrong here?  
> 
> Looks like you are showing subscribed folders only and this folder was
> not subscribed.

Yes, that's it!
This was turned on for all my folders (default, maybe?)

Thanks!

-- Johan


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Thu Aug 11 12:24:36 2016
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 12:24:36 +0200
Subject: [Users] Changed behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160811073302.40758f12@kujata>
References: <20160810160539.498f839d.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
 <20160810221311.19955130@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160811080838.76438111@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20160811073046.28dbdb5d@kujata> <20160811073302.40758f12@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160811122436.0faf9b13@mirrors.kernel.org>


> > That would have still been a behaviour change for deleting messages.  
> 
> And that would also depend on which way you sort.

The problem is when you sort differently, in different folders.

It should be interpretetd as relative to the sort order of the respective folder.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Aug 11 12:28:30 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 11:28:30 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changed behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160811122436.0faf9b13@mirrors.kernel.org>
References: <20160810160539.498f839d.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
 <20160810221311.19955130@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160811080838.76438111@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20160811073046.28dbdb5d@kujata> <20160811073302.40758f12@kujata>
 <20160811122436.0faf9b13@mirrors.kernel.org>
Message-ID: <20160811112830.12ada7a6@kujata>

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 12:24:36 +0200
Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote: 

> It should be interpretetd as relative to the sort order of the
> respective folder.

It is.

with regards

Paul


From andrej at kacian.sk  Thu Aug 11 12:56:49 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 12:56:49 +0200
Subject: [Users] "vcalendar" crashes claws-mail version 3.14.0 on
 Windows 10 PRO 64 amd machine
In-Reply-To: <20160809140829.0000553f@seibercom.net>
References: <20160808062629.00000403@seibercom.net>
 <20160808124456.2d0a3cdc@hiker>
 <20160808072036.00006873@seibercom.net>
 <20160808153101.538085c2@hiker>
 <20160808121125.00005dc8@seibercom.net>
 <20160809095502.3a2253a8@hiker>
 <20160809100144.00006488@seibercom.net>
 <20160809180108.373000ea@penny>
 <20160809140829.0000553f@seibercom.net>
Message-ID: <20160811125649.67ad0226@hiker>

On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 14:08:29 -0400
Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 18:01:08 +0200, Andrej Kacian stated:
> 
> >It won't make the fix come any sooner, since I'm probably the only
> >one who will be working on it, but if you have some spare time, I
> >guess it might help other people who run into this bug before it's
> >fixed.
> 
> I do have a question. Apparently, if I am reading the wiki correctly,
> the problem exists with *.nix systems, hence the "Unix Millennium Bug"
> name. Apparently, this problem does not exist under MS Windows. Since
> I am running the MS Windows version of claws-mail, why can't you use
> the same method that Microsoft does to store the date? If there were
> a 64 bit version of claws-mail, that problem would not exist
> anywhere. In any case, thanks for your assistance with this problem.

Of course, a 64-bit version would solve this issue. In fact, I already
have built it and am testing it, but it will take time before it is
stable - there are several weird bugs popping up, and it will take some
time to find their causes and fix them.

By the way, after trying the 64-bit vcalendar, it indeed got past the
offending event where it crashed before, but now it crashes on another
one - I have found three more bugs in vcalendar, which only show up in
this 64-bit Windows build. :) I already have fixes for two of them.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Thu Aug 11 13:46:18 2016
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 13:46:18 +0200
Subject: [Users] Changed behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160811112830.12ada7a6@kujata>
References: <20160810160539.498f839d.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
 <20160810221311.19955130@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160811080838.76438111@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20160811073046.28dbdb5d@kujata> <20160811073302.40758f12@kujata>
 <20160811122436.0faf9b13@mirrors.kernel.org>
 <20160811112830.12ada7a6@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160811134618.6c3573e7@mirrors.kernel.org>

Paul,

Sorry. I lost my argument :D :D

I meant, sort order of the thread, not folder. In a folder set to sort after last-date-top,  the messages within a thread are still sorted last-date-bottom, which leads to that flag not working within threads.

Either, threads should be sorted in a consistent way, or the flag should be interpreted relative to the thread sort order. 


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Aug 11 13:49:38 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 12:49:38 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changed behavior
In-Reply-To: <20160811134618.6c3573e7@mirrors.kernel.org>
References: <20160810160539.498f839d.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
 <20160810221311.19955130@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20160811080838.76438111@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20160811073046.28dbdb5d@kujata> <20160811073302.40758f12@kujata>
 <20160811122436.0faf9b13@mirrors.kernel.org>
 <20160811112830.12ada7a6@kujata>
 <20160811134618.6c3573e7@mirrors.kernel.org>
Message-ID: <20160811124938.2f1677a6@kujata>

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 13:46:18 +0200
Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote: 

> I meant, sort order of the thread, not folder. In a folder set to
> sort after last-date-top,  the messages within a thread are still
> sorted last-date-bottom

That's a different issue! :)

with regards

Paul


From ethy.brito at inexo.com.br  Thu Aug 11 14:07:40 2016
From: ethy.brito at inexo.com.br (Ethy H. Brito)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 09:07:40 -0300
Subject: [Users] deleting message does not advance anymore
Message-ID: <20160811090740.7586fc54@pulsar.inexo.com.br>


Hi All

After upgrading to Ubuntu 16.04 + CM 3.13.2, when I delete (DEL) a message the
cursor does not move to the next message anymore.

I've searched for an option that controls this behavior and was not able to find
it.

I'd appreciate any clue, if any, to return to the previous behavior.

Regards

Ethy


From jerry at seibercom.net  Thu Aug 11 14:14:57 2016
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 08:14:57 -0400
Subject: [Users] "vcalendar" crashes claws-mail version 3.14.0 on
 Windows 10 PRO 64 amd machine
In-Reply-To: <20160811125649.67ad0226@hiker>
References: <20160808062629.00000403@seibercom.net>
 <20160808124456.2d0a3cdc@hiker>
 <20160808072036.00006873@seibercom.net>
 <20160808153101.538085c2@hiker>
 <20160808121125.00005dc8@seibercom.net>
 <20160809095502.3a2253a8@hiker>
 <20160809100144.00006488@seibercom.net>
 <20160809180108.373000ea@penny>
 <20160809140829.0000553f@seibercom.net>
 <20160811125649.67ad0226@hiker>
Message-ID: <20160811081457.00002554@seibercom.net>

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 12:56:49 +0200, Andrej Kacian stated:

>Of course, a 64-bit version would solve this issue. In fact, I already
>have built it and am testing it, but it will take time before it is
>stable - there are several weird bugs popping up, and it will take some
>time to find their causes and fix them.
>
>By the way, after trying the 64-bit vcalendar, it indeed got past the
>offending event where it crashed before, but now it crashes on another
>one - I have found three more bugs in vcalendar, which only show up in
>this 64-bit Windows build. :) I already have fixes for two of them.

Thank you for your attention to this annoying problem. It is one reason,
although not the only reason, that I am still using MS Outlook for my
business account.

Ciao :)

-- 
Jerry


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Aug 11 14:19:52 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 13:19:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] deleting message does not advance anymore
In-Reply-To: <20160811090740.7586fc54@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
References: <20160811090740.7586fc54@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
Message-ID: <20160811131952.25afabd2@kujata>

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 09:07:40 -0300
"Ethy H. Brito" <ethy.brito at inexo.com.br> wrote: 

> After upgrading to Ubuntu 16.04 + CM 3.13.2, when I delete (DEL) a
> message the cursor does not move to the next message anymore.
> 
> I've searched for an option that controls this behavior and was not
> able to find it.
> 
> I'd appreciate any clue, if any, to return to the previous behavior.

Look at the manual,
http://claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html#adv_hidden
Look for 'next_on_delete'.

Read the release notes between your previous version and current
version here: http://claws-mail.org/NEWS
Look for 'next_on_delete'.

with regards

Paul


From newsboy at scarlet-jade.com  Thu Aug 11 16:11:36 2016
From: newsboy at scarlet-jade.com (Graham P Davis)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 15:11:36 +0100
Subject: [Users] deleting message does not advance anymore
References: <20160811090740.7586fc54@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
 <20160811131952.25afabd2@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160811151136.6d13c6fa@home-1.scarlet-jade>

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 13:19:52 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 09:07:40 -0300
> "Ethy H. Brito" <ethy.brito at inexo.com.br> wrote: 
> 
> > After upgrading to Ubuntu 16.04 + CM 3.13.2, when I delete (DEL) a
> > message the cursor does not move to the next message anymore.
> > 
> > I've searched for an option that controls this behavior and was not
> > able to find it.
> > 
> > I'd appreciate any clue, if any, to return to the previous
> > behavior.  
> 
> Look at the manual,
> http://claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html#adv_hidden
> Look for 'next_on_delete'.
> 
> Read the release notes between your previous version and current
> version here: http://claws-mail.org/NEWS
> Look for 'next_on_delete'.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul

So why make the default value different from the old default action?
This new behaviour of a backward step for 'delete' is a backward step.
Does no-one consider the user before making what seems to me to be a
bizarre change?

Thanks, Ethy, for raising this issue, one which has also been wasting
my time.

-- 
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
OS: Linux: openSUSE 13.2 (64-bit); KDE 4.14.9; Kernel: 3.16.7




From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Aug 11 16:22:21 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 15:22:21 +0100
Subject: [Users] deleting message does not advance anymore
In-Reply-To: <20160811151136.6d13c6fa@home-1.scarlet-jade>
References: <20160811090740.7586fc54@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
 <20160811131952.25afabd2@kujata>
 <20160811151136.6d13c6fa@home-1.scarlet-jade>
Message-ID: <20160811152221.3759b465@kujata>

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 15:11:36 +0100
Graham P Davis <newsboy at scarlet-jade.com> wrote: 

> So why make the default value different from the old default action?

Whether it's different or not depends on the sort order. The change
has made it consistent regardless of the sort order.

> This new behaviour of a backward step for 'delete' is a backward
> step. 

See above.

> Does no-one consider the user before making what seems to me
> to be a bizarre change?

What do you think? Are you serious?

> Thanks, Ethy, for raising this issue, one which has also been
> wasting my time.

It's been wasting a lot of time, because even before Ethy's post
there have been several queries, all about the same thing. All, or
most, of which were answered in the Release Notes.

with regards

Paul


From cae at eslrahc.com  Thu Aug 11 17:08:06 2016
From: cae at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 11:08:06 -0400
Subject: [Users] deleting message does not advance anymore
In-Reply-To: <20160811152221.3759b465@kujata>
References: <20160811090740.7586fc54@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
 <20160811131952.25afabd2@kujata>
 <20160811151136.6d13c6fa@home-1.scarlet-jade>
 <20160811152221.3759b465@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160811110806.7e418413@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 15:22:21 +0100
Paul wrote:

> > So why make the default value different from the old default
> > action?  
> 
> Whether it's different or not depends on the sort order. The change
> has made it consistent regardless of the sort order.
> 
> > This new behaviour of a backward step for 'delete' is a backward
> > step.   
> 
> See above.
> 
> > Does no-one consider the user before making what seems to me
> > to be a bizarre change?  
> 
> What do you think? Are you serious?
> 
> > Thanks, Ethy, for raising this issue, one which has also been
> > wasting my time.  
> 
> It's been wasting a lot of time, because even before Ethy's post
> there have been several queries, all about the same thing. All, or
> most, of which were answered in the Release Notes.


I was just going to let this slide.
But as you seem intent on blaming the user for not checking the 'NEWS'

"* Preferences: The 'next_on_delete' hidden preference now applies to
  trashing or moving, in addition to deleting, a message."

Where in that notice am I informed that this "improvement", without any
confirmation from me, will alter the current settings and behavior for
my claws installation?

As this has indeed resulted in several threads in question and
complaint of this implementation it could give notice that changes of
this nature might be better received if done in 
Configuration/Preferences rather than "hidden preference".
This is especially true since clawsker, the gui for making changes in
the hidden preferences, only supports certain of the fields with
'next_on_delete' being one of the several that is not are not present. 


    Charles 
 
-- 
'Never trust a ruler who puts his faith in tunnels and bunkers and
escape routes. The chances are that his heart isn't in the
job.' (Guards! Guards!) ----------------------
Mageia release 6 (Cauldron) for x86_64$
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Aug 11 17:20:00 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 16:20:00 +0100
Subject: [Users] deleting message does not advance anymore
In-Reply-To: <20160811110806.7e418413@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
References: <20160811090740.7586fc54@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
 <20160811131952.25afabd2@kujata>
 <20160811151136.6d13c6fa@home-1.scarlet-jade>
 <20160811152221.3759b465@kujata>
 <20160811110806.7e418413@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
Message-ID: <20160811162000.6b4deed1@kujata>

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 11:08:06 -0400
Charles A Edwards <cae at eslrahc.com> wrote: 

> Where in that notice am I informed that this "improvement", without
> any confirmation from me, will alter the current settings and
> behavior for my claws installation?

Come on, Charles, keep up. That was done in the release notes for
3.13.1 when this option was first introduced. This current release
just contains a modification of the option, (which was also discussed
at length after 3.13.1, and it was those discussions (and RFE) which
were the reason for this latest modification).

with regards

Paul


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Thu Aug 11 18:10:55 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 18:10:55 +0200
Subject: [Users] "Replied"-icon after mail was discarded
Message-ID: <20160811181055.5e33c6f0@utnubu>

Hi,

I tried to send a mail two times to a mailing list, but I cancelled it
two times, because the server was unresponsive. After that I decided,
that the reply anyway is unimportant and discard it, IOW the mail wasn't
send. It's deleted, neither in a (sent) folder, nor in the mailing
list's archive. That's all as wanted and expected, unwanted and
unexpected is, that the mail I first wanted to reply to, before I
discarded the reply, now is flagged with a "Replied"-icon. If I click
the icon, it does switch to the expected folder and also as expected,
doesn't display a mail, since there is no mail.

In short, Claws 3.14.0-2-ge48b739 flagged a mail with the
"Replied"-icon, while there never happened a reply. For me this isn't
worth a bug report, but I want to report this issue, just in case it is
important for others.

Regards,
Ralf

-- 
Death of ROXTerm
https://sourceforge.net/p/roxterm/discussion/422638/thread/60da6975/



From cae at eslrahc.com  Thu Aug 11 18:20:56 2016
From: cae at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 12:20:56 -0400
Subject: [Users] deleting message does not advance anymore
In-Reply-To: <20160811162000.6b4deed1@kujata>
References: <20160811090740.7586fc54@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
 <20160811131952.25afabd2@kujata>
 <20160811151136.6d13c6fa@home-1.scarlet-jade>
 <20160811152221.3759b465@kujata>
 <20160811110806.7e418413@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20160811162000.6b4deed1@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160811122056.48889e41@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 16:20:00 +0100
Paul wrote:

> > Where in that notice am I informed that this "improvement", without
> > any confirmation from me, will alter the current settings and
> > behavior for my claws installation?  
> 
> Come on, Charles, keep up. That was done in the release notes for
> 3.13.1 when this option was first introduced. This current release
> just contains a modification of the option, (which was also discussed
> at length after 3.13.1, and it was those discussions (and RFE) which
> were the reason for this latest modification).


Good.
I see you choose to ignore the point of the message I posted and
instead focus on me and my perceived shortcomings.

Then let's focus on me.
I been using "claws" since it was a minor fork of sylpheed that
simply updated cache so do not belittle yourself by thinking I need
prompting to "keep up" with changes.

When this behavior occurred on my system I knew how and simply
"fixed" it.
No mess no bother.

But as evidenced by the, at least 3, threads in the week since 3.14.0
was released others users are confused and disturbed by this behavior 
and are unaware of how to revert|change it.

I know you do not intend to, but in many instances your responses to
users questions|concerns come off as quite condescending. 


    Charles

-- 
Reader, suppose you were an idiot.  And suppose you were a member of
Congress.  But I repeat myself.
		-- Mark Twain
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Aug 11 18:35:28 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:35:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] deleting message does not advance anymore
In-Reply-To: <20160811122056.48889e41@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
References: <20160811090740.7586fc54@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
 <20160811131952.25afabd2@kujata>
 <20160811151136.6d13c6fa@home-1.scarlet-jade>
 <20160811152221.3759b465@kujata>
 <20160811110806.7e418413@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20160811162000.6b4deed1@kujata>
 <20160811122056.48889e41@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
Message-ID: <20160811173528.13bdcce8@kujata>

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 12:20:56 -0400
Charles A Edwards <cae at eslrahc.com> wrote: 

> I see you choose to ignore the point of the message I posted and
> instead focus on me and my perceived shortcomings.

Yeah, that was a rather pointless tit-for-tat phrase, prompted by the
piece I didn't quote: "But as you seem intent on blaming the user for
not checking the 'NEWS'".

> I been using "claws" since it was a minor fork of sylpheed that
> simply updated cache 

It was never simply that, but never mind...

> But as evidenced by the, at least 3, threads in the week since
> 3.14.0 was released others users are confused and disturbed by this
> behavior and are unaware of how to revert|change it.

My intent was to draw attention to the release notes, previous
posts on this list, the manual, the git log, whatever... generally,
and in that case in particular, to what was written previously.
Obviously, most of this is written to save time in the long run.
In an ideal world, that is. 

> I know you do not intend to, but in many instances your responses to
> users questions|concerns come off as quite condescending. 

You are right, I don't intend to seem condescending. It's not all
sweetness and light, evidently, and people will interpret how they
will.

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Aug 11 18:42:53 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:42:53 +0100
Subject: [Users] "Replied"-icon after mail was discarded
In-Reply-To: <20160811181055.5e33c6f0@utnubu>
References: <20160811181055.5e33c6f0@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160811174253.45875a04@kujata>

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 18:10:55 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <silver.bullet at zoho.com> wrote: 

> In short, Claws 3.14.0-2-ge48b739 flagged a mail with the
> "Replied"-icon, while there never happened a reply.

That's unusual. Are you sure that the mail wasn't actually sent?

with regards

Paul


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Thu Aug 11 19:00:08 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 19:00:08 +0200
Subject: [Users] "Replied"-icon after mail was discarded
In-Reply-To: <20160811174253.45875a04@kujata>
References: <20160811181055.5e33c6f0@utnubu> <20160811174253.45875a04@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160811190008.726cf8ca@utnubu>

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:42:53 +0100, Paul wrote:
>On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 18:10:55 +0200
>Ralf Mardorf <silver.bullet at zoho.com> wrote: 
>
>> In short, Claws 3.14.0-2-ge48b739 flagged a mail with the
>> "Replied"-icon, while there never happened a reply.  
>
>That's unusual. Are you sure that the mail wasn't actually sent?

It didn't came through yet
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2016-August/date.html .

I first decided to drop a note in reply to
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2016-August/041696.html
that an important rule regarding spam is, to not care too much about it
and that replying to junk mail shouldn't be done either, by a similar
short sentence as this one.

Assumed the mail was sent, only a technical issue would delay it or
bounce it. For sure my mail would come through the list, since my mails
don't need to pass moderation and even if it would need to do so, the
content most likely was ok.

However, if the mail was send before I cancelled it, then I would expect
to find the mail inside the expected sent folder, but it definitively
was cancelled and discarded.

Regards,
Ralf



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Aug 11 19:56:44 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:56:44 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3665] Fix config script for macOS
In-Reply-To: <bug-3665-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3665-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3665-595-A48zM1gUGT@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3665

--- Comment #2 from Yurii Kolesnykov <yurikoles at gmail.com> ---
Please help me apply it. Since I'm not so familiar with patch command.

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Aug 11 19:58:11 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:58:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3664] Failed to build on macOS due to absence of
	gdk/gdkx.h
In-Reply-To: <bug-3664-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3664-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3664-595-ufJ1MHlnhC@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3664

--- Comment #3 from Yurii Kolesnykov <yurikoles at gmail.com> ---
>I guess some autoconf magic will be needed to include correct header (x11/gdk/gdkx.h, perhaps) on macOS.

I think that this is impossible since new releases of gdk+ 2.x does not ship
this file anymore on OSX.

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You are the assignee for the bug.


From cae at eslrahc.com  Thu Aug 11 20:34:22 2016
From: cae at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 14:34:22 -0400
Subject: [Users] "Replied"-icon after mail was discarded
In-Reply-To: <20160811174253.45875a04@kujata>
References: <20160811181055.5e33c6f0@utnubu> <20160811174253.45875a04@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160811143422.590335c5@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:42:53 +0100
Paul wrote:

> > In short, Claws 3.14.0-2-ge48b739 flagged a mail with the
> > "Replied"-icon, while there never happened a reply.  
> 
> That's unusual. Are you sure that the mail wasn't actually sent?


I can confirm that this does occur.

If message is canceled before sending but After SMTP connection is
made, message will be flagged with "Replied"-icon but no message is
actually sent.

Below is log portion from test

* Account 'Eslrahc.com': Connecting to SMTP server:
  mail.eslrahc.com:25... [14:19:38] SMTP< 220 dpmail17.doteasy.com
[14:19:38] ESMTP> EHLO SuperSize.eslrahc.com
[14:19:38] ESMTP< 250-dpmail17.doteasy.com Hello [8.25.225.168]
[14:19:38] ESMTP< 250-SIZE 31457280
[14:19:38] ESMTP< 250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5
[14:19:38] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME
[14:19:38] ESMTP< 250 OK
[14:19:38] ESMTP> AUTH CRAM-MD5
[14:19:38] ESMTP< 334
PC05NDcxNjk3ODcuNjM2MDY1MTExODQxNTkzNDI0QGRwbWFpbDE3LmRvdGVhc3kuY29tPg==
[14:19:38] ESMTP< [Decoded:
<-947169787.636065111841593424 at dpmail17.doteasy.com>]
[14:19:38] ESMTP> [Encoded: cae at eslrahc.com
851461edbd3537a280d317c211593905]
[14:19:38] ESMTP>
Y2FlQGVzbHJhaGMuY29tIDg1MTQ2MWVkYmQzNTM3YTI4MGQzMTdjMjExNTkzOTA1
[14:19:38] ESMTP< 235 Authentication successful
[14:19:38] SMTP> MAIL FROM:<cae at eslrahc.com>
[14:19:38] SMTP< 250 OK <cae at eslrahc.com> Sender ok
[14:19:38] SMTP> RCPT TO:<cae at eslrahc.com>
[14:19:38] SMTP< 250 OK <cae at eslrahc.com> Recipient ok
[14:19:38] SMTP> DATA
[14:19:39] SMTP> QUIT 



    Charles

-- 
There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes.
		-- Dr. Who
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From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Thu Aug 11 21:48:30 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 21:48:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] "Replied"-icon after mail was discarded
In-Reply-To: <20160811143422.590335c5@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
References: <20160811181055.5e33c6f0@utnubu> <20160811174253.45875a04@kujata>
 <20160811143422.590335c5@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
Message-ID: <20160811214830.0f2e1747@utnubu>

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 14:34:22 -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote:
>On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:42:53 +0100
>Paul wrote:
>
>> > In short, Claws 3.14.0-2-ge48b739 flagged a mail with the
>> > "Replied"-icon, while there never happened a reply.    
>> 
>> That's unusual. Are you sure that the mail wasn't actually sent?  
>
>
>I can confirm that this does occur.
>
>If message is canceled before sending but After SMTP connection is
>made, message will be flagged with "Replied"-icon but no message is
>actually sent.

I'm even not sure if there was already a connection established, when it
happened here. I can't make a test, since access to the server is very
fast now, but when it happened, it was very slow, perhaps there was no
access at all.

Regards,
Ralf



From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Thu Aug 11 21:51:24 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 21:51:24 +0200
Subject: [Users] "Replied"-icon after mail was discarded
In-Reply-To: <20160811214830.0f2e1747@utnubu>
References: <20160811181055.5e33c6f0@utnubu> <20160811174253.45875a04@kujata>
 <20160811143422.590335c5@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20160811214830.0f2e1747@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160811215124.2599164e@utnubu>

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 21:48:30 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 14:34:22 -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote:
>>On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:42:53 +0100
>>Paul wrote:
>>  
>>> > In short, Claws 3.14.0-2-ge48b739 flagged a mail with the
>>> > "Replied"-icon, while there never happened a reply.      
>>> 
>>> That's unusual. Are you sure that the mail wasn't actually sent?    
>>
>>
>>I can confirm that this does occur.
>>
>>If message is canceled before sending but After SMTP connection is
>>made, message will be flagged with "Replied"-icon but no message is
>>actually sent.  
>
>I'm even not sure if there was already a connection established, when
>it happened here. I can't make a test, since access to the server is
>very fast now, but when it happened, it was very slow, perhaps there
>was no access at all.

PS:

I don't know if this is important for some reason, it happened when
using a POP account.



From ricardo at mones.org  Thu Aug 11 22:23:16 2016
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 22:23:16 +0200
Subject: [Users] deleting message does not advance anymore
In-Reply-To: <20160811110806.7e418413@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
References: <20160811090740.7586fc54@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
 <20160811131952.25afabd2@kujata>
 <20160811151136.6d13c6fa@home-1.scarlet-jade>
 <20160811152221.3759b465@kujata>
 <20160811110806.7e418413@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
Message-ID: <20160811222316.2acf7381@busgosu>

Hi Charles,

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 11:08:06 -0400
Charles A Edwards <cae at eslrahc.com> wrote:
[…]
> As this has indeed resulted in several threads in question and
> complaint of this implementation it could give notice that changes of
> this nature might be better received if done in 
> Configuration/Preferences rather than "hidden preference".

If people doesn't read the release notes, do you think visibility of the
preference would be relevant? I doubt it, but of course I have no proof
like you :-)

> This is especially true since clawsker, the gui for making changes in
> the hidden preferences, only supports certain of the fields with
> 'next_on_delete' being one of the several that is not are not present.

It's supported in git version¹, and will be in next release (in 3-4
days).

regards,

¹ https://github.com/mones/clawsker/commit/e17b3e1d63124bc3543eb231da62d4037e57de5d
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but 
  that's not why we do it.                            Richard Feynman

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From anmeyer at mailbox.org  Thu Aug 11 22:42:02 2016
From: anmeyer at mailbox.org (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 22:42:02 +0200
Subject: [Users] PGP standard-key
Message-ID: <20160811224202.757ec1e8@workstation.bitcorner.intern>

Hi!

Where in configuration is a PGP-key defined? Is the PGP-key
taken from the standard-account if there isn't one defined
in a specific account?

Greetings

  Andreas


From cae at eslrahc.com  Thu Aug 11 23:14:43 2016
From: cae at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:14:43 -0400
Subject: [Users] SPAM-LOW: Re: deleting message does not advance anymore
In-Reply-To: <20160811222316.2acf7381@busgosu>
References: <20160811090740.7586fc54@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
 <20160811131952.25afabd2@kujata>
 <20160811151136.6d13c6fa@home-1.scarlet-jade>
 <20160811152221.3759b465@kujata>
 <20160811110806.7e418413@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20160811222316.2acf7381@busgosu>
Message-ID: <20160811171443.3d130718@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 22:23:16 +0200
Ricardo Mones wrote:

> > As this has indeed resulted in several threads in question and
> > complaint of this implementation it could give notice that changes
> > of this nature might be better received if done in 
> > Configuration/Preferences rather than "hidden preference".  
> 
> If people doesn't read the release notes, do you think visibility of
> the preference would be relevant? I doubt it, but of course I have no
> proof like you :-)

More common sense than empirical proof. :-)

If 'Configuration/Preferences/Execute immediately on delete move' can be
found and used
I have no doubt users could easily find and use 
'Configuration/Preferences/Select next on delete move' if it were
present.


    Charles

-- 
The Emperor had all the qualifications for a corpse except, as it were,
the most vital one.
(Interesting Times)
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From linux at slavino.sk  Thu Aug 11 23:40:36 2016
From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 23:40:36 +0200
Subject: [Users] SPAM-LOW: Re: deleting message does not advance anymore
In-Reply-To: <20160811171443.3d130718@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
References: <20160811090740.7586fc54@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
 <20160811131952.25afabd2@kujata>
 <20160811151136.6d13c6fa@home-1.scarlet-jade>
 <20160811152221.3759b465@kujata>
 <20160811110806.7e418413@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20160811222316.2acf7381@busgosu>
 <20160811171443.3d130718@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
Message-ID: <20160811234036.107b430f@bonifac.skk>

Ahoj,

Dňa Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:14:43 -0400 Charles A Edwards <cae at eslrahc.com>
napísal:

> If 'Configuration/Preferences/Execute immediately on delete move' can
> be found and used
> I have no doubt users could easily find and use 
> 'Configuration/Preferences/Select next on delete move' if it were
> present.

I read a lot about this change in CM 3.13, then i skip 3.13 at all,
because i afraid, that this change will annoy me. Now i updated to
3.14 (mostly due i read, that this change is more configurable now), to
see what will change and i see nothing = no change in my workflow.
After i delete message, the cursor goes to message, as in old CM.

Then why as many messages about this? It seems, that some users think,
that only their approach is right? From my understanding of the
problem, the old behavior was bad, because it was inconsistent in some
circumstances... If you don't like this change, simple compile old CM
and stay on it (as i have done for more software).

regards

-- 
Slavko
http://slavino.sk
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From barry at python.org  Thu Aug 11 23:53:56 2016
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:53:56 -0400
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.14.0 unleashed!!
References: <20160807093016.5de9cac5@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160811175356.6c811511@anarchist.wooz.org>

On Aug 07, 2016, at 09:30 AM, Paul wrote:

>7th August 2016 Claws Mail 3.14.0

I just uploaded 3.14.0-1ubuntu1 to Ubuntu 16.10, although it still has to
clear -proposed.  This is a merge from the Debian version with a minor Ubuntu
delta for the indicator API (which we've carried for forever).

I used a new merge workflow, so hopefully I didn't mess it up.  I tested it
locally before uploading and it seemed good.  If you're on Ubuntu devel,
please do give it a try.

Cheers,
-Barry
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From andrej at kacian.sk  Fri Aug 12 00:03:30 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 00:03:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.14.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20160811175356.6c811511@anarchist.wooz.org>
References: <20160807093016.5de9cac5@kujata>
 <20160811175356.6c811511@anarchist.wooz.org>
Message-ID: <20160812000330.012b91c5@penny>

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:53:56 -0400
Barry Warsaw <barry at python.org> wrote:

> I just uploaded 3.14.0-1ubuntu1 to Ubuntu 16.10, although it still has to
> clear -proposed.  This is a merge from the Debian version with a minor Ubuntu
> delta for the indicator API (which we've carried for forever).

Thanks!

-- 
Andrej
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From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Fri Aug 12 00:07:20 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 00:07:20 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.14.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20160811175356.6c811511@anarchist.wooz.org>
References: <20160807093016.5de9cac5@kujata>
 <20160811175356.6c811511@anarchist.wooz.org>
Message-ID: <20160812000720.5a199b3c@utnubu>

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:53:56 -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>On Aug 07, 2016, at 09:30 AM, Paul wrote:
>
>>7th August 2016 Claws Mail 3.14.0  
>
>I just uploaded 3.14.0-1ubuntu1 to Ubuntu 16.10, although it still has
>to clear -proposed.  This is a merge from the Debian version with a
>minor Ubuntu delta for the indicator API (which we've carried for
>forever).
>
>I used a new merge workflow, so hopefully I didn't mess it up.  I
>tested it locally before uploading and it seemed good.  If you're on
>Ubuntu devel, please do give it a try.

I can't test a package for 16.10, but I can confirm that 3.14.0 at
least runs without issues on 16.04, since I build claws from git for my
Ubuntu install. The below shows what options I used to configure my
build.

[rocketmouse at archlinux moonstudio]$ sudo systemd-nspawn -q dpkg -l claws-mail-git|grep ii
ii  claws-mail-git 3.14.0-2-ge48b73-1 amd64        A GTK+ based e-mail client - git checkout
[rocketmouse at archlinux moonstudio]$ sudo systemd-nspawn -q lsb_release -r
Release:	16.04
[rocketmouse at archlinux moonstudio]$ grep conf usr/src/claws.configure 
./configure --build=$(uname -m)-ubuntustudio-linux-gnu --disable-maintainer-mode --prefix=/usr --disable-static --enable-silent-rules --disable-jpilot --enable-enchant --enable-gnutls --enable-ldap --enable-crash-dialog --enable-pgpmime-plugin --enable-spamassassin-plugin --enable-bogofilter-plugin

Regards,
Ralf



From chrisretusn at bluehome.net  Fri Aug 12 00:12:14 2016
From: chrisretusn at bluehome.net (Chris Schrauben)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 06:12:14 +0800
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.14.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20160807093016.5de9cac5@kujata>
References: <20160807093016.5de9cac5@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160812061214.2e1adf7b@racermach.home.lan>

On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 09:30:16 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> 7th August 2016                                     Claws Mail 3.14.0
> 
> 		    CLAWS MAIL  RELEASE NOTES
>                     http://www.claws-mail.org
> 
Compiled and running well of Slackware64-current

System Information
GTK+ 2.24.30 / GLib 2.46.2
Locale: en_US.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8)
Operating System: Linux 4.4.16 (x86_64)


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Aug 12 08:02:34 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 07:02:34 +0100
Subject: [Users] deleting message does not advance anymore
In-Reply-To: <20160811234036.107b430f@bonifac.skk>
References: <20160811090740.7586fc54@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
 <20160811131952.25afabd2@kujata>
 <20160811151136.6d13c6fa@home-1.scarlet-jade>
 <20160811152221.3759b465@kujata>
 <20160811110806.7e418413@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20160811222316.2acf7381@busgosu>
 <20160811171443.3d130718@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20160811234036.107b430f@bonifac.skk>
Message-ID: <20160812070234.39acf880@kujata>

After yesterday, I wasn't intending on saying any more about this,
but to finally read a message by someone who gets it is worth a
comment. (or maybe not, you decide!) 

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 23:40:36 +0200
Slavko <linux at slavino.sk> wrote: 

> From my understanding of the
> problem, the old behavior was bad, because it was inconsistent in
> some circumstances...

That's exactly right. For a lot of users, such as yourself, this
change, (stretching from 3.13.1 to 13.14.0), produces absolutely no
change in behaviour. It was to fix an inconsistency and nothing
more. However, since some users will have grown used to the
inconsistency, it wasn't enough just to fix the inconsistency. In an
attempt to not force this change on current users who did not want it,
(for those who were used to the inconsistency), a preference had to be
added. It's a hidden preference because for a good number of users
nothing changed anyway, and new users will readily accept the now
consistent behaviour.

The comment about not considering the users was way off the mark and
quite inconsiderate itself. Everything was discussed, described, and
documented publicly.

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Aug 12 08:04:49 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 07:04:49 +0100
Subject: [Users] PGP standard-key
In-Reply-To: <20160811224202.757ec1e8@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
References: <20160811224202.757ec1e8@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
Message-ID: <20160812070449.092d3e25@kujata>

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 22:42:02 +0200
Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at mailbox.org> wrote: 

> Where in configuration is a PGP-key defined? Is the PGP-key
> taken from the standard-account if there isn't one defined
> in a specific account?

See the account preferences, under Plugins/GPG.

This pref page will be visible if you have loaded the PGP plugins.

with regards

Paul


From h.m.brand at xs4all.nl  Fri Aug 12 08:48:03 2016
From: h.m.brand at xs4all.nl (H.Merijn Brand)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 08:48:03 +0200
Subject: [Users] deleting message does not advance anymore
In-Reply-To: <20160812070234.39acf880@kujata>
References: <20160811090740.7586fc54@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
 <20160811131952.25afabd2@kujata>
 <20160811151136.6d13c6fa@home-1.scarlet-jade>
 <20160811152221.3759b465@kujata>
 <20160811110806.7e418413@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20160811222316.2acf7381@busgosu>
 <20160811171443.3d130718@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20160811234036.107b430f@bonifac.skk>
 <20160812070234.39acf880@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160812084803.5301ff6d@pc09.procura.nl>

On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 07:02:34 +0100, Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>
wrote:

> After yesterday, I wasn't intending on saying any more about this,
> but to finally read a message by someone who gets it is worth a
> comment. (or maybe not, you decide!) 
> 
> On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 23:40:36 +0200
> Slavko <linux at slavino.sk> wrote: 
> 
> > From my understanding of the
> > problem, the old behavior was bad, because it was inconsistent in
> > some circumstances...  
> 
> That's exactly right. For a lot of users, such as yourself, this
> change, (stretching from 3.13.1 to 13.14.0), produces absolutely no
> change in behaviour. It was to fix an inconsistency and nothing
> more. However, since some users will have grown used to the
> inconsistency, it wasn't enough just to fix the inconsistency. In an
> attempt to not force this change on current users who did not want it,
> (for those who were used to the inconsistency), a preference had to be
> added. It's a hidden preference because for a good number of users
> nothing changed anyway, and new users will readily accept the now
> consistent behaviour.

I think that the main reason people see/saw this change in behavior is
*not* because of the inconsistency that was fixed.

Half (most?, more than half?) of the users stick with the default
sorting (newest at bottom) and will not/never see/notice the change.

The other half - including me - thinks that newest on top is the only
sensible way to view message lists, and that group was struck with this
change as incompatible and illogical. I had a hard time seeing the
fixed inconsistency when the patch was originally committed (I run CM
from git builds, so I see them quite soon), and it made me curse too.

I applaud the time and effort you developers put in this wonderful
piece of software so many people use on a day-to-day basis, but I am
afraid that you underrated the effect on users that sort newest on top,
as I expect none of the developers do. Preference is only logical in
the eyes of the beholder. For people like me, "next_on_delete = 0" is
the only sensible setting, and since I changed it I was happy again.

Maybe the default should be based on sorting preferences, but that
might cause many more inconsistencies.

> The comment about not considering the users was way off the mark and
> quite inconsiderate itself. Everything was discussed, described, and
> documented publicly.

It was.

> with regards
> 
> Paul

-- 
H.Merijn Brand  http://tux.nl   Perl Monger  http://amsterdam.pm.org/
using perl5.00307 .. 5.25   porting perl5 on HP-UX, AIX, and openSUSE
http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/        http://www.test-smoke.org/
http://qa.perl.org   http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/
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From rol at witbe.net  Fri Aug 12 09:13:21 2016
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 09:13:21 +0200
Subject: [Users] deleting message does not advance anymore
In-Reply-To: <20160812084803.5301ff6d@pc09.procura.nl>
References: <20160811090740.7586fc54@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
 <20160811131952.25afabd2@kujata>
 <20160811151136.6d13c6fa@home-1.scarlet-jade>
 <20160811152221.3759b465@kujata>
 <20160811110806.7e418413@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20160811222316.2acf7381@busgosu>
 <20160811171443.3d130718@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20160811234036.107b430f@bonifac.skk>
 <20160812070234.39acf880@kujata>
 <20160812084803.5301ff6d@pc09.procura.nl>
Message-ID: <20160812091321.11bac579@riri.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello,

On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 08:48:03 +0200
"H.Merijn Brand" <h.m.brand at xs4all.nl> wrote:

> The other half - including me - thinks that newest on top is the only
> sensible way to view message lists, and that group was struck with this
> change as incompatible and illogical. I had a hard time seeing the
> fixed inconsistency when the patch was originally committed (I run CM
> from git builds, so I see them quite soon), and it made me curse too.

That's exactly it ! I'm using the same settings, newest at top, as this
looks *to me* the only logical approach, and the change, when introduced,
was a really visible one to me, annoying enough to have me edit part of the
code to change some part of it...

> I applaud the time and effort you developers put in this wonderful
> piece of software so many people use on a day-to-day basis, but I am

and I totally second that ! Claws is *the* mail client of my dreams, and I
sincerely appreciate all the efforts of the community to maintain et
develop it ! 

> afraid that you underrated the effect on users that sort newest on top,
> as I expect none of the developers do. Preference is only logical in
> the eyes of the beholder. For people like me, "next_on_delete = 0" is
> the only sensible setting, and since I changed it I was happy again.

Paul Rolland (not to be confused with Paul, one of the dev. of Claws)

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From anmeyer at mailbox.org  Fri Aug 12 09:33:38 2016
From: anmeyer at mailbox.org (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 09:33:38 +0200
Subject: [Users] PGP standard-key
In-Reply-To: <20160812070449.092d3e25@kujata>
References: <20160811224202.757ec1e8@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
 <20160812070449.092d3e25@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160812093338.62f8ebbb@workstation.bitcorner.intern>

Hello Paul!

Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> schrieb am 12.08.16 um 07:04:49 Uhr:

> On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 22:42:02 +0200
> Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at mailbox.org> wrote: 
> 
> > Where in configuration is a PGP-key defined? Is the PGP-key
> > taken from the standard-account if there isn't one defined
> > in a specific account?
> 
> See the account preferences, under Plugins/GPG.
> 
> This pref page will be visible if you have loaded the PGP plugins.

That's not clear to me. The standard-account is anmeyer at mailbox.org.
If I mail from another account for example a.meyer at nimmini.de and
the default setting like "use default GnuPG-key" is set, the key
of anmeyer at mailbox.org is used for signing a mail.

I have attached a snapshot.

Is this key of anmeyer at mailbox.org prefinded somerwhere or is it
taken form the standard-account automatically when no key is
specified in the settings of a.meyer at nimmini.de

Greetings

  Andreas
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Aug 12 09:47:41 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 08:47:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] PGP standard-key
In-Reply-To: <20160812093338.62f8ebbb@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
References: <20160811224202.757ec1e8@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
 <20160812070449.092d3e25@kujata>
 <20160812093338.62f8ebbb@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
Message-ID: <20160812084741.64c73e63@kujata>

On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 09:33:38 +0200
Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at mailbox.org> wrote: 

> That's not clear to me. The standard-account is anmeyer at mailbox.org.
> If I mail from another account for example a.meyer at nimmini.de and
> the default setting like "use default GnuPG-key" is set, the key
> of anmeyer at mailbox.org is used for signing a mail.

Probably you want the 2nd option then. But it may be better to
specify the key ID.

> Is this key of anmeyer at mailbox.org prefinded somerwhere or is it
> taken form the standard-account automatically when no key is
> specified in the settings of a.meyer at nimmini.de

This is defined in your GnuPG preferences. ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf

If you don't have a default key defined there, it probably just picks
the first one it finds.

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Aug 13 12:00:04 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 10:00:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3667] New: segfault in imap_session_authenticate
Message-ID: <bug-3667-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3667

            Bug ID: 3667
           Summary: segfault in imap_session_authenticate
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.14.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: critical
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders/IMAP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: finkandreas at web.de

All line numbers will refer to version 3.14.0 and the file imap.c!
I have a plugin running, that returns the password from gnome-keyring, i.e.
imap.c:1285 will run successfully, and we will end up in the block with lines
1287 and 1288.
Line 1287 is the problem here, because we use Xstrdup_a(acc_pass...) which uses
internally alloca, thus the memory is automatically managed.
However in all following code (and in my case in line 1341), the memory for
acc_pass will be freed with g_free.
This leads to a segmentation fault on my PC.

I guess this bug was introduced due to the new passwordstore in claws-mail...

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Aug 13 15:05:32 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 13:05:32 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3668] New: sometimes claws forget the read-status of
	messages
Message-ID: <bug-3668-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3668

            Bug ID: 3668
           Summary: sometimes claws forget the read-status of messages
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.14.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message List
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: c.buhtz at posteo.jp

This bug was discussed on the mailniglist before.
Entry-post from July:
http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2016-July/016979.html
posts from August:
http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2016-August/016982.html

More then one person in different cases is affected by this bug. But currently
claws don't give enough debug information for a deeper analysis. Because of
that I opened a feature request ("More detailed debug output in folderview.c"),
too.

Currently I am using Claws 3.14 on a Siduction GNU/Linux (which is Debian
unstable).
But this problem happend always in Claws 3.9 (Ubuntu Trusty) and 3.13.

Sometimes (but not exact reproducable) it forget the read status of messages:
When I start claws, it shows me INBOX with 2 unread meassages in
the left folder tree. But when I click on INBOX to show the messages in
it some of the older messages in it (sometimes all) turn to unread.
Sometimes the folder is 100% read. But clicking on it a bunch of mails it it
turn unread.

This problem comes from time to time but not so often. I am not able to
reproduce it for sure. That is why I am not sure what causes that problem.

I tried to delete all dot-files and rebuild the tree. The problem is still
there.

My special use scenario:
I use the same Claws "instance" on two machines! This means I sync the
~/.claws-box and ~/.claws-mail folders between two machines. The last
years I used the Ubuntu Trusty claws version (quite old) for that.
I had the same problems there.
I don't use them as the same time! I switch between a desktop pc and a
laptop. When switching I start a sync process (with Unison) by myself.
This work really well. But only the thing with unread messages.
You can see in the mailinglist thread (see link above) that I checked that sync
process.
It is working and not the root of the problem. Other person describe similar
problems
in different sceniarios.

This is the current debug output when clicking on the folder "notify". You can
see there is not enough information. It would be the best if you could modfiy
claws that it can give a better debug output. I would provide it then here. You
can open a seperate git-branch if you want. I will use it.

folderview.c:2205:Folder notify is selected
folderview.c:2221:Öffne Ordner notify...
mh.c:228:MH scan required, folder updated:
/home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify (1470324057 > 1470323949)
folder.c:2152:Scanning folder notify for cache changes.
mh.c:298:mh_get_num_list(): Scanning notify ...
current dir: /home/user/.MyAppData/claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify
mh.c:1420:MH: forced mtime of notify to 1470324057
msgcache.c:605:    Reading swapped message cache from
/home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify/.claws_cache...
msgcache.c:621:using Noop Converter
msgcache.c:793:done. (283 items read)
msgcache.c:794:Cache size: 283 messages, 105710 bytes
msgcache.c:824:reading swapped mark file.
msgcache.c:918:reading swapped tags file.
folder.c:2709:TIMING folder_item_read_cache : 0s001ms
folder.c:2570:Total cache memory usage: 105710
msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 282 messages, 105347 bytes
folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4779 to update...
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 281 messages, 104985 bytes
folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4784 to update...
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 280 messages, 104623 bytes
folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4785 to update...
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 279 messages, 104273 bytes
folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4786 to update...
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 278 messages, 103911 bytes
folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4792 to update...
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 277 messages, 103549 bytes
folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4795 to update...
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 276 messages, 103186 bytes
folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4796 to update...
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 275 messages, 102824 bytes
folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4797 to update...
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 274 messages, 102461 bytes
folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4798 to update...
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 273 messages, 102102 bytes
folder.c:2288:Remembering message 4802 to update...
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 272 messages, 101734 bytes
[...SNIPPED...]
folder.c:2288:Remembering message 5047 to update...
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 153 messages, 57064 bytes
folder.c:2288:Remembering message 5048 to update...
hooks.c:71:registed new hook for 'avatar_header_update' as id 1
codeconv.c:1509:current locale: de_DE.utf8
msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 154 messages, 57427 bytes
msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 155 messages, 57789 bytes
msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 156 messages, 58151 bytes
msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 157 messages, 58501 bytes
msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 158 messages, 58863 bytes
msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 159 messages, 59225 bytes
msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 160 messages, 59588 bytes
msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 161 messages, 59950 bytes
[...SNIPPED...]
msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 282 messages, 105360 bytes
msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 283 messages, 105710 bytes
folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service files
folder.c:4420:processing notify
folder.c:4423:called inc_lock (lock count 1)
msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
filtering.c:198:checking 283 messages
filtering.c:235:no more messages to move/copy/del
folder.c:4474:called inc_unlock (lock count 0)
folder.c:2042:TIMING folder_item_open : 0s231ms
summaryview.c:1035:showing both
summaryview.c:1248:called inc_lock (lock count 1)
summaryview.c:1346:Ordner notify wird durchsucht ...
msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
summaryview.c:1210:TIMING summary_check_consistency : 0s000ms
summaryview.c:1458:TIMING summary_show removing hidden: 0s000ms
summaryview.c:3128:    Setting summary from message data...
procmsg.c:301:TIMING procmsg_get_thread_tree thread by subject: 0s001ms
procmsg.c:311:TIMING procmsg_get_thread_tree : 0s005ms
summaryview.c:3169:TIMING summary_set_ctree_from_list threaded: 0s014ms
summaryview.c:3216:done.
summaryview.c:3219:    msgid hash table size = 283
summaryview.c:3222:    subject hash table size = 0
summaryview.c:2990:Sorting summary...summaryview.c:3004:done.
summaryview.c:3011:TIMING summary_sort : 0s035ms
summaryview.c:3238:TIMING summary_set_ctree_from_list bold_unread: 0s000ms
summaryview.c:3243:TIMING summary_set_ctree_from_list : 0s054ms
    message/rfc822 (offset:0 length:2417 encoding: 6)
        text/plain (offset:2002 length:415 encoding: 1)
procmsg.c:1928:Setting flags for message 5048 in folder notify
folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service files
    message/rfc822 (offset:0 length:2417 encoding: 6)
        text/plain (offset:2002 length:415 encoding: 1)
textview.c:712:TIMING textview_add_part : 0s074ms
textview.c:1181:Viewing text content of type: plain (length: 415)
textview.c:828:TIMING textview_add_part : 0s056ms
textview.c:845:TIMING recursive_add_parts : 0s056ms
textview.c:891:TIMING recursive_add_parts : 0s131ms
textview.c:651:TIMING textview_show_part : 0s132ms
summaryview.c:3459:flags: doing unset now
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 5048 in folder notify
folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service files
summaryview.c:3664:TIMING summary_display_msg_full : 0s171ms
summaryview.c:1583:
summaryview.c:1588:called inc_unlock (lock count 0)
summaryview.c:1589:TIMING summary_show : 0s457ms
folder.c:2570:Total cache memory usage: 105710
folderview.c:2283:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s707ms
folderview.c:2159:newly selected 0x9ac69c0, opened 0x9ac69c0
folderview.c:2163:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
main.c:2092:exiting
msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4779 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4784 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4785 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4786 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4792 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4795 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4796 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4797 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4798 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4802 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 4803 in folder notify
[...SNIPPED...]
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 5045 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 5046 in folder notify
procmsg.c:1971:Unsetting flags for message 5047 in folder notify
folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service files
mh.c:236:MH scan not required: /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify
(1470324057 <= 1470324057)
folder.c:2734:Save cache for folder #mh/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify
msgcache.c:1189:    Writing message cache to
/home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify/.claws_cache.new and
/home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify/.claws_mark.new...
msgcache.c:1270:done.
msgcache.c:1271:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s011ms
mh.c:1420:MH: forced mtime of notify to 1470324157
folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service files
mh.c:236:MH scan not required: /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify
(1470324157 <= 1470324157)
msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
mh.c:1355:wrote unseen sequence: 'unseen: 4779 4784-4786 4792 4795-4798
4802-4806 4817 4820 4827-4828 4832-4841 4849-4850 4855-4866 4870-4873 4881-4883
4886 4891-4894 4901-4910 4915-4921 4926-4932 4936-4937 4953 4956-4966 4978-4983
4991-4992 4994-4995 4997-5001 5003-5006 5009-5013 5015 5019-5025 5030-5032
5035-5036 5042-5047'
mh.c:1388:TIMING mh_write_sequences : 0s001ms
mh.c:1420:MH: forced mtime of notify to 1470324157
hooks.c:90:unregisted hook 1 in 'folder_item_update'
hooks.c:90:unregisted hook 1 in 'folder_update'
main.c:1602:shutting down
mh.c:228:MH scan required, folder updated:
/home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/queue (1470324047 > 1470257953)
folder.c:2734:Save cache for folder #mh/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/queue
msgcache.c:1189:    Writing message cache to (null) and (null)...
msgcache.c:1270:done.
msgcache.c:1271:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s000ms
mh.c:236:MH scan not required: /home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify
(1470324157 <= 1470324157)
folder.c:2734:Save cache for folder #mh/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify
msgcache.c:1189:    Writing message cache to (null) and (null)...
msgcache.c:1270:done.
[...SNIPPED...]
msgcache.c:1270:done.
msgcache.c:1271:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s000ms
prefs_gtk.c:288:Found [Common]
prefs_gtk.c:332:Configuration is saved.
addressbook.c:4430:Saving address books...
addressbook.c:4433:Exporting addressbook to file...
plugin.c:286:removing /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/claws-mail/plugins/pgpinline.so
rdeps
plugin.c:286:removing /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/claws-mail/plugins/pgpmime.so
rdeps
plugin.c:286:removing /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/claws-mail/plugins/pgpcore.so
rdeps
plugin.c:290: rdep /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/claws-mail/plugins/pgpmime.so: (nil)
plugin.c:290: rdep /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/claws-mail/plugins/pgpinline.so:
(nil)
prefs_gpg.c:587:set GPG_AGENT_INFO=/home/user/.gnupg/S.gpg-agent:0:1
hooks.c:90:unregisted hook 1 in
'address_completion_build_address_list_hooklist'
autocompletion.c:123:PGP address autocompletion hook unregistered
plugin.c:286:removing
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/claws-mail/plugins/address_keeper.so rdeps
hooks.c:90:unregisted hook 1 in 'compose_check_before_send'
address_keeper.c:271:Address Keeper plugin unloaded
plugin.c:286:removing /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/claws-mail/plugins/fancy.so rdeps
prefs.c:310:Found [fancy]
hooks.c:90:unregisted hook 1 in 'avatar_image_render'
prefs_themes.c:414:Finished preferences for themes.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Aug 13 15:11:50 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 13:11:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3669] New: [Feature Request] More detailed debug
 output in folderview.c
Message-ID: <bug-3669-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3669

            Bug ID: 3669
           Summary: [Feature Request] More detailed debug output in
                    folderview.c
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: c.buhtz at posteo.jp

This FR depends on this bug:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3668

"Something" is wrong with showing the (un)read state of messages in the message
list and folderlist and with reading the dot-files which store that
information.

To make a deeper analyisis of that bug (above) it would be helpfull if there
would be a more detaile debug output in that part of claws. In the bug you can
see an example of debug output which didn't give enough informations to know
what is wrong there.

You could open a new git-branch or provide the modified files manually here. I
would test it.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Aug 13 16:19:34 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 14:19:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3669] [Feature Request] More detailed debug output in
 folderview.c
In-Reply-To: <bug-3669-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3669-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3669-595-7DJMshgCAu@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3669

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |PATCHESWELCOME

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Aug 13 16:19:35 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 14:19:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3668] sometimes claws forget the read-status of
	messages
In-Reply-To: <bug-3668-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3668-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3668-595-AjE5UQD9AA@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3668

Bug 3668 depends on bug 3669, which changed state.

Bug 3669 Summary: [Feature Request] More detailed debug output in folderview.c
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3669

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |PATCHESWELCOME

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Aug 13 16:47:27 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 14:47:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3668] sometimes claws forget the read-status of
	messages
In-Reply-To: <bug-3668-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3668-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3668-595-ZhvS8ogsZB@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3668

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
> Currently I am using Claws 3.14

The debug output is not from version 3.14.0

I see 2 "notify" folders in the debug output:

/home/user/.MyAppData/claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify
/home/user/.claws-box/MYMAIL at WORLD.NET/notify

Why is that?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Aug 14 04:55:54 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 02:55:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3668] sometimes claws forget the read-status of
	messages
In-Reply-To: <bug-3668-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3668-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3668-595-mYgr1z2oJ3@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3668

--- Comment #2 from c.buhtz at posteo.jp ---
> The debug output is not from version 3.14.0

Correct. There was n update in the last days. But the problem is still the
same.

> I see 2 "notify" folders in the debug output:

It is a typo. I removed the original mail-adress-folders in the output because
of privacy. There is only one folder.

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From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Sun Aug 14 17:57:31 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 17:57:31 +0200
Subject: [Users] Help with Claws email restoration following Windows 7
 reinstall
In-Reply-To: <20160810013300.5c4ba1d5@utnubu>
References: <20160809191151.000027b5@onetel.com>
 <20160810004921.1f170503@mirrors.kernel.org>
 <20160810013300.5c4ba1d5@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160814175731.6696d3f6@utnubu>

On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 01:33:00 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 00:49:21 +0200, Michael wrote:
>>in claws, you right-click on the mail folder (top level,
>>uppermost entry in the folder list on the left) and chose "rebuild
>>folder tree".   
>
>For testing purpose I did it with my Linux install.
>
>Inside my "Claws Mail (MH)", "Claws Mail" was generated [snip]

No, I was mistaken. I don't know when and why there was an incomplete
copy of the MH inside the MH, but "Rebuild folder tree" isn't the
culprit. I diff with a backup and noticed the incomplete copy is old.
"Rebuild folder tree" seemingly has got no undesirable side effects.

Regards,
Ralf



From mir at miras.org  Sun Aug 14 21:59:45 2016
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 21:59:45 +0200
Subject: [Users] Gnupg in claws
Message-ID: <20160814215945.0373061b@sleipner.datanom.net>

Hi all,

If you or your distro recently has switched to systemd controlled
gpg-agent it is important that you have this setting in ~/.bashrc
GPG_TTY=$(tty)
export GPG_TTY

Failing this may break you ability to digitally sign emails because
gpg-agent will not find valid tty in witch case you will not see a
prompt for password to unlock your keyring.

"The far most common reason for this is that the environment variable
GPG_TTY has not been set correctly. Make sure that it has been set to a real tty devce and not just to ‘/dev/tty’; i.e. ‘GPG_TTY=tty’ is plainly wrong; what you want is ‘GPG_TTY=`tty`’ — note the back ticks. Also make sure that this environment variable gets exported, that is you should follow up the setting with an ‘export GPG_TTY’ (assuming a Bourne style shell). Even for GUI based Pinentries; you should have set GPG_TTY. See the section on installing the gpg-agent on how to do it."
https://www.gnupg.org/documentation/manuals/gnupg/Common-Problems.html

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Aug 15 01:23:44 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 23:23:44 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3670] New: Claws mail 3.14.0 extremely slow with all
	operations
Message-ID: <bug-3670-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3670

            Bug ID: 3670
           Summary: Claws mail 3.14.0 extremely slow with all operations
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.14.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: sunglo at katamail.com

After upgrading to 3.14.0 from 3.13.2, everything has become extremely slow.
For example, it takes about 10 minutes between clicking on a folder with ~50
messages and actually be able to see and interact with the messages. (for a
folder with 500 message, it can take a few hours). Same thing when checking new
mail: the new message are received, the fetching apparently finishes but then
the popup does not go away for a long time (again, minutes or hours, depending
on how many messages are in the target folder for the messages). 
If that helps, while claws mail is stuck opening a folder, I see messages like
"opening folder XXX" or "updating cache for XXX" in the status bar.
I have no idea where to start to debug this; with 3.13.2 everything worked fine
and I didn't change anything. This is on arch linux.

On a side note, now it looks that when I delete a message, the *previous*
message gets selected instead of the followng, as it did in 3.13.2.

Any help appreciated.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Aug 15 02:00:08 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 00:00:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3670] Claws mail 3.14.0 extremely slow with all
	operations
In-Reply-To: <bug-3670-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3670-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3670-595-bgaV0aSyUM@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3670

--- Comment #1 from sunglo at katamail.com ---
Btw, folders are all local, mail is fetched via POP.

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From iron_order_sucks_ass at openmailbox.org  Mon Aug 15 02:25:49 2016
From: iron_order_sucks_ass at openmailbox.org (JB)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 19:25:49 -0500
Subject: [Users] Gnupg in claws
In-Reply-To: <20160814215945.0373061b@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20160814215945.0373061b@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20160814192549.2eb5ede2@FTF.FTG>

On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 21:59:45 +0200
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> If you or your distro recently has switched to systemd controlled
> gpg-agent it is important that you have this setting in ~/.bashrc
> GPG_TTY=$(tty)
> export GPG_TTY
> 
> Failing this may break you ability to digitally sign emails because
> gpg-agent will not find valid tty in witch case you will not see a
> prompt for password to unlock your keyring.
> 
> "The far most common reason for this is that the environment variable
> GPG_TTY has not been set correctly. Make sure that it has been set to a real
> tty devce and not just to ‘/dev/tty’; i.e. ‘GPG_TTY=tty’ is plainly wrong;
> what you want is ‘GPG_TTY=`tty`’ — note the back ticks. Also make sure that
> this environment variable gets exported, that is you should follow up the
> setting with an ‘export GPG_TTY’ (assuming a Bourne style shell). Even for GUI
> based Pinentries; you should have set GPG_TTY. See the section on installing
> the gpg-agent on how to do it."
> https://www.gnupg.org/documentation/manuals/gnupg/Common-Problems.html
> 

Or better yet, dont use any distro that has that abortion known as 'systemd' in
it. Far simpler.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Aug 15 09:49:52 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 08:49:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] Gnupg in claws
In-Reply-To: <20160814192549.2eb5ede2@FTF.FTG>
References: <20160814215945.0373061b@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20160814192549.2eb5ede2@FTF.FTG>
Message-ID: <20160815084952.507b5224@kujata>

On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 19:25:49 -0500
JB <iron_order_sucks_ass at openmailbox.org> wrote: 

> Or better yet, dont use any distro that has that abortion known as
> 'systemd' in it. Far simpler.

Simpler still: Use gpg rather than gpg2.

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Aug 15 09:52:59 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 07:52:59 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3670] Claws mail 3.14.0 extremely slow with all
	operations
In-Reply-To: <bug-3670-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3670-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3670-595-wVFftPmAV4@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3670

--- Comment #2 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Nothing has changed between 3.13.2 and 3.14.0 to make that happen. If you
downgrade to 3.13.2 I'd wager that you will still experience the same slowness.
(i.e. it's a local problem) Try that and report back.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Aug 15 10:19:03 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 08:19:03 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3667] segfault in imap_session_authenticate
In-Reply-To: <bug-3667-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3667-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3667-595-RyKkBKge3B@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3667

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
You're right, this is a problem. The use of alloca() here is, I believe,
incorrect, since the returned password could be of any length, and could cause
stack overflow. It needs to be changed to use simple malloc() instead. Sorry
about that.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Aug 15 10:34:46 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 08:34:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3667] segfault in imap_session_authenticate
In-Reply-To: <bug-3667-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3667-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3667-595-oplm4Pxoce@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3667

--- Comment #2 from Andreas <finkandreas at web.de> ---
To be honest, I've just changed it to not copy at all, just set the pointer
correctly with
acc_pass = pass;
and removing the two lines for copying/freeing the variable pass.

I think this is from old implementations, where acc_pass was deleted
automatically. Now in all cases acc_pass will be freed anyway, and pass is
already allocated with malloc, so I don't see the point, why copying it just
another time ;)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Aug 15 11:45:05 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 09:45:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3670] Claws mail 3.14.0 extremely slow with all
	operations
In-Reply-To: <bug-3670-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3670-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3670-595-uF4YLtAEsa@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3670

sunglo at katamail.com changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #3 from sunglo at katamail.com ---
It looks like you're right indeed. So I'm at a loss now, but at least it's
clear that it's not a claws mail problem. Sorry for the noise, I'm closing the
bug.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Aug 15 12:54:49 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 10:54:49 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3670] Claws mail 3.14.0 extremely slow with all
	operations
In-Reply-To: <bug-3670-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3670-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3670-595-sDGLdfegy4@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3670

--- Comment #4 from sunglo at katamail.com ---
For anyone reading this, the slowness problem was due to the notification
daemon (xfce4-notifyd in my case) not running. I found this by running
claws-mail from the command line and seeing many "libnotify-WARNING **: Failed
to connect to proxy" messages. A bit of googling led me to the solution.

I'm still getting the annoying behavior of focusing the previous message
instead of the following upon deletion, though. I'm digging through the
configuration options to find whether there's something related.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Aug 15 15:34:07 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 13:34:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3671] New: Claws Mail for Windows Signing Key
Message-ID: <bug-3671-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3671

            Bug ID: 3671
           Summary: Claws Mail for Windows Signing Key
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.14.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 10
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: celebi.fikret at gmail.com

Hi,

i am not new to Open Source and know how many things work, but i read that
claws was once a subproject of another OSS Project, thats how i get here, now i
have gpg4win installed i tried to do this
https://www.torproject.org/docs/verifying-signatures.html.en because thats the
only reliable source for verifying asc the way i think it works, because i did
not find better. i want to verify the integrity of the package
http://www.claws-mail.org//win32/claws-mail-3.14.0-1.exe.asc

how do i do this and the above pasted urls, am i on the right way. thanks you

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Aug 15 16:34:13 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 14:34:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3671] Claws Mail for Windows Signing Key
In-Reply-To: <bug-3671-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3671-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3671-595-yTW1CLGi4l@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3671

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Essentially the same:

"C:\Program Files\Gnu\GnuPg\gpg.exe" --verify
C:\Users\Alice\Desktop\claws-mail-3.14.0-1.exe.asc
C:\Users\Alice\Desktop\claws-mail-3.14.0-1.exe

This is not a Q&A forum but a bug tracker, for bug reports and feature requests
only. See this page for how to get help and where to ask questions:
http://www.claws-mail.org/MLs.php

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Aug 15 17:07:51 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 15:07:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3671] Claws Mail for Windows Signing Key
In-Reply-To: <bug-3671-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3671-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3671-595-1R05l27IOT@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3671

celebi.fikret at gmail.com changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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         Resolution|INVALID                     |FIXED

--- Comment #2 from celebi.fikret at gmail.com ---
thanks that worked nice did lookup public signature sks-keyservers.net wow bye

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From jerry at seibercom.net  Mon Aug 15 17:47:36 2016
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:47:36 -0400
Subject: [Users] Nuking "vcalendar" configuration
In-Reply-To: <20160815160914.0fad6de8@hiker>
References: <20160812175724.0000538c@seibercom.net>
 <20160815160914.0fad6de8@hiker>
Message-ID: <20160815114736.00007eef@seibercom.net>

On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 16:09:14 +0200, Andrej Kacian stated:

>Hi,
>
>over here, I only get crash when I try to open such subscribed webcal,
>in other words, when I click on its "folder" on the left. Just
>unsubscribing without opening it (rightclick, unsubscribe) works fine.
>
>Or you can do the same thing by removing a relevant
>"<folderitem ... />" line from folderlist.xml in your config dir,
>while Claws Mail is not running.
>
>Anyway, I fixed the last bug I mentioned before, so I can now open the
>webcal properly, in my experimental 64-bit build. Unfortunately, the
>build itself is quite unstable, it often crashes or goes into endless
>loop (with one CPU core at 100%).
>
>I'm afraid it will take some time, and I can't even give a good
>estimate.
>
>Regards,

I understand. Will claws-mail actually release a 64-bit version? I
thought that there was some resistance to that, although I really do not
see why. While 32-bit systems are still available, they are definitely
entering a comatose state. Everything I use at home and at work are
64-bit machines.

I really appreciate your assistance on this.

-- 
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Aug 15 18:08:17 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 16:08:17 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3671] Claws Mail for Windows Signing Key
In-Reply-To: <bug-3671-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3671-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3671-595-zFLMsOQ5r0@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3671

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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         Resolution|FIXED                       |INVALID

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From andrej at kacian.sk  Mon Aug 15 18:18:12 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 18:18:12 +0200
Subject: [Users] Nuking "vcalendar" configuration
In-Reply-To: <20160815114736.00007eef@seibercom.net>
References: <20160812175724.0000538c@seibercom.net>
 <20160815160914.0fad6de8@hiker>
 <20160815114736.00007eef@seibercom.net>
Message-ID: <20160815181812.139562c9@penny>

On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:47:36 -0400
Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:

> I understand. Will claws-mail actually release a 64-bit version? I
> thought that there was some resistance to that, although I really do not
> see why. While 32-bit systems are still available, they are definitely
> entering a comatose state. Everything I use at home and at work are
> 64-bit machines.

No, there is no resistance. A 64-bit version will be released if and
when it is considered stable enough. Anyone is free to help with the
development, at the moment, I believe it's just me working on the
Windows port.

Regards,
-- 
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From waterhouseandy at onetel.com  Tue Aug 16 00:27:38 2016
From: waterhouseandy at onetel.com (Andy Waterhouse)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 23:27:38 +0100
Subject: [Users] Help with Claws email restoration following Windows 7
 reinstall
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2182.1471250088.25613.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
References: <mailman.2182.1471250088.25613.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
Message-ID: <20160815232738.00006298@onetel.com>


From: Andy Waterhouse
Mon, 15 Aug 2016 10:34:48 +0200
Subject: Reply - Users Digest, Vol 60, Issue 26

Address book and all folders now restored. Thanks for your help in sorting out my problem.

Kind regards,
Andy


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Help with Claws email restoration following Windows 7
      reinstall (Ralf Mardorf)
   2. Gnupg in claws (Michael Rasmussen)
   3. [Bug 3670] New: Claws mail 3.14.0 extremely slow with all
      operations (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
   4. [Bug 3670] Claws mail 3.14.0 extremely slow with all
      operations (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
   5. Re: Gnupg in claws (JB)
   6. Re: Gnupg in claws (Paul)
   7. [Bug 3670] Claws mail 3.14.0 extremely slow with all
      operations (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
   8. [Bug 3667] segfault in imap_session_authenticate
      (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
   9. [Bug 3667] segfault in imap_session_authenticate
      (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 17:57:31 +0200
From: Ralf Mardorf <silver.bullet at zoho.com>
To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Subject: Re: [Users] Help with Claws email restoration following
	Windows 7 reinstall
Message-ID: <20160814175731.6696d3f6 at utnubu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 01:33:00 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 00:49:21 +0200, Michael wrote:  
>>in claws, you right-click on the mail folder (top level,
>>uppermost entry in the folder list on the left) and chose "rebuild
>>folder tree".     
>
>For testing purpose I did it with my Linux install.
>
>Inside my "Claws Mail (MH)", "Claws Mail" was generated [snip]  

No, I was mistaken. I don't know when and why there was an incomplete
copy of the MH inside the MH, but "Rebuild folder tree" isn't the
culprit. I diff with a backup and noticed the incomplete copy is old.
"Rebuild folder tree" seemingly has got no undesirable side effects.

Regards,
Ralf



------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 21:59:45 +0200
From: Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org>
To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Subject: [Users] Gnupg in claws
Message-ID: <20160814215945.0373061b at sleipner.datanom.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi all,

If you or your distro recently has switched to systemd controlled
gpg-agent it is important that you have this setting in ~/.bashrc
GPG_TTY=$(tty)
export GPG_TTY

Failing this may break you ability to digitally sign emails because
gpg-agent will not find valid tty in witch case you will not see a
prompt for password to unlock your keyring.

"The far most common reason for this is that the environment variable
GPG_TTY has not been set correctly. Make sure that it has been set to a real tty devce and not just to ?/dev/tty?;
i.e. ?GPG_TTY=tty? is plainly wrong; what you want is ?GPG_TTY=`tty`? ? note the back ticks. Also make sure that this environment
variable gets exported, that is you should follow up the setting with an ?export GPG_TTY? (assuming a Bourne style shell). Even
for GUI based Pinentries; you should have set GPG_TTY. See the section on installing the gpg-agent on how to do it."
https://www.gnupg.org/documentation/manuals/gnupg/Common-Problems.html


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From bleketux at gmail.com  Tue Aug 16 07:43:39 2016
From: bleketux at gmail.com (M Sulchan Darmawan)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:43:39 +0700
Subject: [Users] unable to change keyboard shortcut and limited message
	download
Message-ID: <20160816124339.018789ba@mc33>

Hi all,

I've decided to clean compile claws-mail on clean ubuntu OS.
But, as subject, I have the following problems:

1. Unable to change keyboard shortcut.
   I have already checked the "Enable customisable keyboard shortcut"
   on Configuration - Preferences - Miscellaneous. But when I hover on
   the menu and press keyboard combination, it doesn't work. The
   shortcut didn't change.

2. Limited message download.
   When downloading on pop3 mail, it is limited to 5 days email on
   every checked email. Is it by default? How can I download all email
   at once?

Please enlighten me.

Thanks.
Sulchan

PS: 
claws-mail version 3.14.0-6-gdd7568
on Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Tue Aug 16 08:53:52 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 08:53:52 +0200
Subject: [Users] unable to change keyboard shortcut and limited message
 download
In-Reply-To: <20160816124339.018789ba@mc33>
References: <20160816124339.018789ba@mc33>
Message-ID: <20160816085352.1520d723@utnubu>

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:43:39 +0700, M Sulchan Darmawan wrote:
>Please enlighten me.

Get the source from git, perhaps by running

  git clone git://git.claws-mail.org/claws.git
  cd claws/
  git checkout 1234567

but most likely by just changing the directory and running

  git pull --all

Prepare to build

  make clean
  ./autogen.sh

Configure with those options

./configure --build=$(uname -m)-ubuntufoobar-linux-gnu --disable-maintainer-mode --prefix=/usr --disable-static --enable-silent-rules --disable-jpilot --enable-enchant --enable-gnutls --enable-ldap --enable-crash-dialog --enable-pgpmime-plugin --enable-spamassassin-plugin --enable-bogofilter-plugin

You could drop "--build=$(uname -m)-ubuntufoobar-linux-gnu" or name it
as you like, by keeping "--build=$(uname -m)-*-linux-gnu" and replacing
the * with the name you like.

Get the version for checkinstall

  cat version

Build the package

  make
  sudo checkinstall

Since it shouldn't become a package for an official repository
checkinstall is ok, even if you leave it incomplete like this:

  0 -  Maintainer: [ Foobar <foo at bar.com> ]
  1 -  Summary: [ A GTK+ based e-mail client - git checkout ]
  2 -  Name:    [ claws-mail-git ]
  3 -  Version: [ insert the output of cat version ]
  4 -  Release: [ 1 ]
  5 -  License: [ GPL3 ]
  6 -  Group:   [ checkinstall ]
  7 -  Architecture: [ amd64 ]
  8 -  Source location: [ claws ]
  9 -  Alternate source location: [  ]
  10 - Requires: [  ]
  11 - Provides: [ claws-mail ]
  12 - Conflicts: [  ]
  13 - Replaces: [  ]

Regards,
Ralf



From andrej at kacian.sk  Tue Aug 16 09:38:18 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 09:38:18 +0200
Subject: [Users] unable to change keyboard shortcut and limited message
 download
In-Reply-To: <20160816085352.1520d723@utnubu>
References: <20160816124339.018789ba@mc33>
	<20160816085352.1520d723@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160816093818.67db51fe@penny>

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 08:53:52 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <silver.bullet at zoho.com> wrote:

> Get the source from git

What for? How will that help answer OP's questions? Or is this just
another one of your off-topic rants?

Regards,
-- 
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 16 09:48:09 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 08:48:09 +0100
Subject: [Users] unable to change keyboard shortcut and limited message
 download
In-Reply-To: <20160816124339.018789ba@mc33>
References: <20160816124339.018789ba@mc33>
Message-ID: <20160816084809.24171603@kujata>

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:43:39 +0700
M Sulchan Darmawan <bleketux at gmail.com> wrote: 

> 1. Unable to change keyboard shortcut.
>    I have already checked the "Enable customisable keyboard
> shortcut" on Configuration - Preferences - Miscellaneous. But when
> I hover on the menu and press keyboard combination, it doesn't
> work. The shortcut didn't change.

I've tested this on KUbuntu 16.04.1 LTS and it works just fine. If
you have verified that the "Enable customisable keyboard shortcuts"
is set, then it must be Unity or Gnome, or whatever DE you are using,
which is preventing that.

> 2. Limited message download.
>    When downloading on pop3 mail, it is limited to 5 days email on
>    every checked email. Is it by default? How can I download all
> email at once?

There is no limit in Claws Mail. This is a server issue.

with regards

Paul


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Tue Aug 16 09:58:55 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 09:58:55 +0200
Subject: [Users] unable to change keyboard shortcut and limited message
 download
In-Reply-To: <20160816093818.67db51fe@penny>
References: <20160816124339.018789ba@mc33> <20160816085352.1520d723@utnubu>
 <20160816093818.67db51fe@penny>
Message-ID: <1471334335.787.5.camel@zoho.com>

On Tue, 2016-08-16 at 09:38 +0200, Andrej Kacian wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 08:53:52 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > 
> > Get the source from git
> 
> What for? How will that help answer OP's questions?

The OP mentions that claws was build from git for Ubuntu 16.04.1.
_Maybe_ the OP made a mistake when building Claws. I build Claws from
git for either Arch Linux and Ubuntu 16.04.1 and there aren't issues, so
following my advice to build from git for Ubuntu 16.04.1 ensures that at
least Claws is build correctly. I don't understand why this is off-
topic.

Regards,
Ralf



From bleketux at gmail.com  Tue Aug 16 10:06:17 2016
From: bleketux at gmail.com (M Sulchan Darmawan)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:06:17 +0700
Subject: [Users] unable to change keyboard shortcut and limited message
 download
In-Reply-To: <20160816084809.24171603@kujata>
References: <20160816124339.018789ba@mc33>
	<20160816084809.24171603@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160816150617.7e842e6b@mc33>

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 08:48:09 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> > 1. Unable to change keyboard shortcut.
> >    I have already checked the "Enable customisable keyboard
> > shortcut" on Configuration - Preferences - Miscellaneous. But when
> > I hover on the menu and press keyboard combination, it doesn't
> > work. The shortcut didn't change.  
> 
> I've tested this on KUbuntu 16.04.1 LTS and it works just fine. If
> you have verified that the "Enable customisable keyboard shortcuts"
> is set, then it must be Unity or Gnome, or whatever DE you are using,
> which is preventing that.

Thanks, than it must be Unity.
I didn't have this problem when using Linux Mint.

> > 2. Limited message download.
> >    When downloading on pop3 mail, it is limited to 5 days email on
> >    every checked email. Is it by default? How can I download all
> > email at once?  
> 
> There is no limit in Claws Mail. This is a server issue.

Then it's gmail issue?

Thanks and regards,
Sulchan


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 16 10:25:23 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 08:25:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3667] segfault in imap_session_authenticate
In-Reply-To: <bug-3667-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3667-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3667-595-mE7Zk48Mad@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3667

--- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Created attachment 1673
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1673&action=edit
A fix for the crash

Can you try this patch (against current git master)?

You are correct that this was an oversight during recent password-related
changes. Sorry about that.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 16 10:27:36 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 08:27:36 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3665] Fix config script for macOS
In-Reply-To: <bug-3665-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3665-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3665-595-6XxTIgk0d1@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3665

--- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
"patch -p1 < file.patch" in top directory of the git repository should do it.

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 16 10:52:39 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 09:52:39 +0100
Subject: [Users] unable to change keyboard shortcut and limited message
 download
In-Reply-To: <1471334335.787.5.camel@zoho.com>
References: <20160816124339.018789ba@mc33> <20160816085352.1520d723@utnubu>
 <20160816093818.67db51fe@penny> <1471334335.787.5.camel@zoho.com>
Message-ID: <20160816095239.4db09a0c@kujata>

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 09:58:55 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <silver.bullet at zoho.com> wrote: 

> I don't understand why this is off-
> topic.

Because it has nothing to do with building Claws, and there's no
reason (that I can think of) to assume that rebuilding it will change
anything. And also because you did not directly address the questions
asked but went off at an extreme tangent.

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 16 10:59:28 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 09:59:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] unable to change keyboard shortcut and limited message
 download
In-Reply-To: <20160816150617.7e842e6b@mc33>
References: <20160816124339.018789ba@mc33> <20160816084809.24171603@kujata>
 <20160816150617.7e842e6b@mc33>
Message-ID: <20160816095928.6f9825fc@kujata>

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:06:17 +0700
M Sulchan Darmawan <bleketux at gmail.com> wrote: 

> Then it's gmail issue?

I thought google's/gmail's interpretation of imap was bad, but it
seems that their interpretation of pop is no better:

https://support.google.com/a/answer/6089246?hl=en 

with regards

Paul


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Tue Aug 16 11:31:26 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:31:26 +0200
Subject: [Users] unable to change keyboard shortcut and limited message
 download
In-Reply-To: <20160816095239.4db09a0c@kujata>
References: <20160816124339.018789ba@mc33> <20160816085352.1520d723@utnubu>
 <20160816093818.67db51fe@penny> <1471334335.787.5.camel@zoho.com>
 <20160816095239.4db09a0c@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160816113126.72e12a6a@utnubu>

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 09:52:39 +0100, Paul wrote:
>On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 09:58:55 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: 
>
>> I don't understand why this is off-topic.  
>
>Because it has nothing to do with building Claws, and there's no
>reason (that I can think of) to assume that rebuilding it will change
>anything.

The reason for me was that I'm using Claws build from git, too, Ubuntu
16.04.1, too and POP accounts, too, but I do _not_ experience those
issues, too. So my guess was, that the culprit _could_ be related to a
mistake, when building Claws.

Indeed, I'm not using Unity and I'm not using gmail, but the OP didn't
mention it by the original post, but even if it would have been
mentioned, I still might have guessed, that the culprit _could_ have
been a mistake when building Claws.

I didn't know that it has nothing to do with building Claws. That the
download issue has to do with the provider was my guess, too, but I
OTOH couldn't think of a reason that a desktop environment has got
impact to the functionality of Claws, now I can. Does Unity cause any
other issues when using Claws?

Regards,
Ralf



From paulsteyn1 at afrihost.co.za  Tue Aug 16 12:12:53 2016
From: paulsteyn1 at afrihost.co.za (Paul Steyn)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:12:53 +0200
Subject: [Users] unable to change keyboard shortcut and limited message
 download
In-Reply-To: <20160816113126.72e12a6a@utnubu>
References: <20160816124339.018789ba@mc33> <20160816085352.1520d723@utnubu>
 <20160816093818.67db51fe@penny> <1471334335.787.5.camel@zoho.com>
 <20160816095239.4db09a0c@kujata> <20160816113126.72e12a6a@utnubu>
Message-ID: <20160816121253.42ad360f@afrihost.co.za>

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:31:26 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <silver.bullet at zoho.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 09:52:39 +0100, Paul wrote:
> >On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 09:58:55 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: 
> >  
> >> I don't understand why this is off-topic.    

I don't think Ralf's email was off-topic. However misguided it
may later turn out to be, it was given with the honest intention of
helping, with a reasonable assumption of being a possible solution. I
think it just failed to address the OP's question directly, and didn't
state *why* Ralf thought it was a valid answer, which it should have.


> The reason for me was that I'm using Claws build from git, too, Ubuntu
> 16.04.1, too and POP accounts, too, but I do _not_ experience those
> issues, too. So my guess was, that the culprit _could_ be related to a
> mistake, when building Claws.

I feel the correct way would have been to include a simple preamble to
this effect, maybe something like the following:

"Hi, I have the same setup as you, and don't have the issues you do, so
perhaps the build procedure is at fault. My build steps, which worked
for me, are below."


Just a thought, hoping to help douse the fire (and not with kerosene).


Paul Steyn


From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Tue Aug 16 12:24:07 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:24:07 +0200
Subject: [Users] unable to change keyboard shortcut and limited message
 download
In-Reply-To: <20160816121253.42ad360f@afrihost.co.za>
References: <20160816124339.018789ba@mc33> <20160816085352.1520d723@utnubu>
 <20160816093818.67db51fe@penny> <1471334335.787.5.camel@zoho.com>
 <20160816095239.4db09a0c@kujata> <20160816113126.72e12a6a@utnubu>
 <20160816121253.42ad360f@afrihost.co.za>
Message-ID: <20160816122407.72adc93c@utnubu>

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:12:53 +0200, Paul Steyn wrote:
>"Hi, I have the same setup as you, and don't have the issues you do, so
>perhaps the build procedure is at fault. My build steps, which worked
>for me, are below."

Hi,

you might be right with this and I'll try to keep this in mind.

Regards,
Ralf



From jerry at seibercom.net  Tue Aug 16 12:56:36 2016
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 06:56:36 -0400
Subject: [Users] Not displaying HTML email automatically (sometimes)
Message-ID: <20160816065636.00003386@seibercom.net>

claws-mail version 3.14.0

System Information
GTK+ 2.24.30 / GLib 2.49.2
Locale: en_US (charset: ISO-8859-1)
Operating System: Win32

I am running claws-mail on a Windows 10 PRO amd/64 bit machine.

After updating, several, although not all HTML messages are being
displayed as plain text. I cannot figure out why this is happening.

An example of one that does not display properly now but use to has the
following headers:

Content-Type: text/html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Messages with this header usually display properly:

Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

None of the settings have been changes and I have set all of the
defaults to display the HTML part first if it is present.

Also, and I don't know if it is related, meeting requests that are used
in vcalendar now always start out in plain text. This is not how it use
to work. This is an example of one header:

MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/calendar; method=REQUEST;
	charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0
Thread-Index: AdHGQLkv/uf1u5B4Sp2rfa9Y4tpbHQAAHn/wAAALpoA=
Content-Language: en-us

I would be happy to supply examples if required.

-- 
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 16 13:08:45 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:08:45 +0100
Subject: [Users] Not displaying HTML email automatically (sometimes)
In-Reply-To: <20160816065636.00003386@seibercom.net>
References: <20160816065636.00003386@seibercom.net>
Message-ID: <20160816120845.78170774@kujata>

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 06:56:36 -0400
Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote: 

> I would be happy to supply examples if required.

Send me examples off-list, (forward as attachment). And list your HTML
Messages related option settings.

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 16 14:03:36 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:03:36 +0100
Subject: [Users] Not displaying HTML email automatically (sometimes)
In-Reply-To: <20160816065636.00003386@seibercom.net>
References: <20160816065636.00003386@seibercom.net>
Message-ID: <20160816130336.49d130ac@kujata>

Hi Jerry,

Thanks for sending the examples off-list.

The HTML-only mail example has a broken structure. It says it is

Content-Type: multipart/mixed

But it is not. It has a single html part.

For it to display correctly it needs to loose the 'Content-Type:
multipart/mixed' declaration, the boundary declaration, and the
boundary markers.


The other example, which was a meeting request, is a regression in
Claws Mail. This should be interpreted as a meeting request as it
states:

Content-Type: text/calendar

This is a bug in Claws Mail.

regards

Paul


From jerry at seibercom.net  Tue Aug 16 14:30:42 2016
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 08:30:42 -0400
Subject: [Users] Not displaying HTML email automatically (sometimes)
In-Reply-To: <20160816130336.49d130ac@kujata>
References: <20160816065636.00003386@seibercom.net>
 <20160816130336.49d130ac@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160816083042.00006765@seibercom.net>

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:03:36 +0100, Paul stated:

>Hi Jerry,
>
>Thanks for sending the examples off-list.
>
>The HTML-only mail example has a broken structure. It says it is
>
>Content-Type: multipart/mixed
>
>But it is not. It has a single html part.
>
>For it to display correctly it needs to loose the 'Content-Type:
>multipart/mixed' declaration, the boundary declaration, and the
>boundary markers.
>
>
>The other example, which was a meeting request, is a regression in
>Claws Mail. This should be interpreted as a meeting request as it
>states:
>
>Content-Type: text/calendar
>
>This is a bug in Claws Mail.
>
>regards
>
>Paul

Thanks, that was quick. I don't know why; however, the first HTML did
display in the older version of claws-mail. All I can figure out is
that they changed their sending protocol on the same day I updated. I
will try and contact them to see if they will correct the problem.
Interestingly enough, this does display correctly in MS Outlook 2016.

Thanks again :)

-- 
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 16 14:42:17 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:42:17 +0100
Subject: [Users] Not displaying HTML email automatically (sometimes)
In-Reply-To: <20160816083042.00006765@seibercom.net>
References: <20160816065636.00003386@seibercom.net>
 <20160816130336.49d130ac@kujata>
 <20160816083042.00006765@seibercom.net>
Message-ID: <20160816134217.097e4d2d@kujata>

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 08:30:42 -0400
Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote: 

> however, the first HTML did
> display in the older version of claws-mail. All I can figure out is
> that they changed their sending protocol on the same day I updated.

Although it does have a broken structure, previously Claws Mail was
less strict about this, and previously it would have displayed OK.
These problems have been noted and will be fixed in due course.

with regards

Paul


From jerry at seibercom.net  Tue Aug 16 15:04:03 2016
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 09:04:03 -0400
Subject: [Users] Not displaying HTML email automatically (sometimes)
In-Reply-To: <20160816134217.097e4d2d@kujata>
References: <20160816065636.00003386@seibercom.net>
 <20160816130336.49d130ac@kujata>
 <20160816083042.00006765@seibercom.net>
 <20160816134217.097e4d2d@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160816090403.00007537@seibercom.net>

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:42:17 +0100, Paul stated:

>Although it does have a broken structure, previously Claws Mail was
>less strict about this, and previously it would have displayed OK.
>These problems have been noted and will be fixed in due course.
>
>with regards
>
>Paul

I am trying to find some one in charge to look into this for me. It is
government though, as you can tell, so I doubt that I will have any
luck with that.

Thanks again.

-- 
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From jerry at seibercom.net  Tue Aug 16 17:01:44 2016
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:01:44 -0400
Subject: [Users] Not displaying HTML email automatically (sometimes)
In-Reply-To: <20160816134217.097e4d2d@kujata>
References: <20160816065636.00003386@seibercom.net>
 <20160816130336.49d130ac@kujata>
 <20160816083042.00006765@seibercom.net>
 <20160816134217.097e4d2d@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160816110144.0000552c@seibercom.net>

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:42:17 +0100, Paul stated:

>On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 08:30:42 -0400
>Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote: 
>
>> however, the first HTML did
>> display in the older version of claws-mail. All I can figure out is
>> that they changed their sending protocol on the same day I updated.  
>
>Although it does have a broken structure, previously Claws Mail was
>less strict about this, and previously it would have displayed OK.
>These problems have been noted and will be fixed in due course.
>
>with regards
>
>Paul

I was wondering if you happened to know what RFC(s) deal with this? I
want to send as much information as possible to the Postmaster of the
site where the defective emails originate.

-- 
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 16 18:13:43 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 17:13:43 +0100
Subject: [Users] Not displaying HTML email automatically (sometimes)
In-Reply-To: <20160816110144.0000552c@seibercom.net>
References: <20160816065636.00003386@seibercom.net>
 <20160816130336.49d130ac@kujata>
 <20160816083042.00006765@seibercom.net>
 <20160816134217.097e4d2d@kujata>
 <20160816110144.0000552c@seibercom.net>
Message-ID: <20160816171343.3738dc32@kujata>

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:01:44 -0400
Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote: 

> I was wondering if you happened to know what RFC(s) deal with this?
> I want to send as much information as possible to the Postmaster of
> the site where the defective emails originate.

It seems that 'logic' got in my way. RFC 2046 says this about
"Content-Type: multipart/mixed":

"This Content-Type value indicates that the content consists of one
or more parts"

So, a single part is permissible here. Anyway, the problem should be
cleared up when the text/calendar problem is cleared up.

with regards

Paul


From ricardo at mones.org  Tue Aug 16 19:16:41 2016
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:16:41 +0200
Subject: [Users] Clawsker 0.7.14 unleashed!
Message-ID: <20160816191641.2c05959b@busgosu>

Hi all,

Clawsker, the hidden preferences editor for Claws Mail has been
released.

Changes as found in the NEWS file:

  - Use xz compression format in release tarball
  - Support hidden preferences 'next_on_delete' (since Claws Mail
    3.13.1) and 'master_passphrase_pbkdf2_rounds' (since 3.14.0)
  - Added application icon and desktop file
  - Translations:
    • New: German, Catalan and Turkish
    • Updated: Dutch, Brazilian Portuguese, Swedish, French and Spanish
    • Dropped: Serbian latin and Serbian cyrillic
  - Added translators README and other minor fixes, see git log

For full details use git log on a local clone or see homepage for the
browsable git address: http://www.claws-mail.org/clawsker.php
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 16 20:58:41 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 18:58:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3672] New: unhandled win32 exception [5364]
Message-ID: <bug-3672-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3672

            Bug ID: 3672
           Summary: unhandled win32 exception [5364]
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.14.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows XP
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: thiessendg at gmail.com

I am randomly (at least it seems so) getting this exception.  I will fill more
info as I find it.  I may download the source to debug further.

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From barry at python.org  Tue Aug 16 21:17:18 2016
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:17:18 -0400
Subject: [Users] No fun with Google 2FA
Message-ID: <20160816151718.7594b1f0@anarchist.wooz.org>

I recently enabled two factor auth (2FA) on my Google account, and thus my
Gmail.  In order to use Claws with my Gmail account, I now have to generate an
app password, and use that when Claws prompts me to log into Gmail.  So far so
good.

Claws even has an option to remember the password for the remainder of the
session, but this doesn't actually seem to be the case.  After a while (maybe
12 hours, maybe a day, I haven't timed it) Claws will tell me that it couldn't
log on and will prompt me for my Gmail password again.

This is problematic because afaict, Google's app password page cannot show you
already generated passwords.  If you dismiss the "Generated app password"
window, I see no way to get Google to show you the password again.  My only
option is to revoke the old, unrecoverable password, and generate a new one.
This gets pretty annoying!

I also don't like this because if I have multiple desktops, each running a
Claws instance, it's fairly inconvenient to copy the password back and forth
between the two.  I can of course generate a second app password for the Claws
on the other machine, but now I'm doubly annoyed when the passwords apparently
time out.  I'll note that in none of these cases have I ended my desktop
session or otherwise quit Claws before the Gmail login begins to fail.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to know that this is all Google's fault. ;) If
there isn't much Claws can do about it, so be it.  But if other people use
Google 2FA and aren't seeing this problem, I'd love to know how you get it to
not drive you batty.

Is there anything more Claws can do to help?

Cheers,
-Barry
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From andrej at kacian.sk  Tue Aug 16 21:27:28 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:27:28 +0200
Subject: [Users] No fun with Google 2FA
In-Reply-To: <20160816151718.7594b1f0@anarchist.wooz.org>
References: <20160816151718.7594b1f0@anarchist.wooz.org>
Message-ID: <20160816212728.2435932f@penny>

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:17:18 -0400
Barry Warsaw <barry at python.org> wrote:

> Claws even has an option to remember the password for the remainder of the
> session, but this doesn't actually seem to be the case.

This happens only if you do not have the password saved in your account
preferences, or the password saved there is incorrect. Have you tried
storing the password there? It is permanent, so if the "app password"
doesn't change on server side, it should last.

Regards,
-- 
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 16 21:51:35 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:51:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3672] unhandled win32 exception [5364]
In-Reply-To: <bug-3672-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3672-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3672-595-kTbIrgVHiw@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3672

--- Comment #1 from thiessendg at gmail.com ---
I have traced down the exception to the vCalendar plugin.
claws-mail.exe [5148]

Unhandled exception at 0x6fa01aa6 in claws-mail.exe: 0xC0000005: Access
violation reading location 0x0000001c.

call stack
vcalendar.dll!6fa01aa6()

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 16 22:27:30 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 20:27:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3667] segfault in imap_session_authenticate
In-Reply-To: <bug-3667-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3667-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3667-595-5Nd3NzDaWU@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3667

--- Comment #4 from Andreas <finkandreas at web.de> ---
Yes it works now. Thank you very much for the fast fix ;)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 17 08:29:21 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 06:29:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3667] segfault in imap_session_authenticate
In-Reply-To: <bug-3667-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3667-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3667-595-5DIC8g6ecc@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3667

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #5 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2016-08-17 00:34:03.974036385 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=b23c6b4ca22574e99dfff6cb13211f539ff8536d
Merge: aff003f 5b70872
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Wed Aug 17 00:34:03 2016 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=5b70872b46999db1d46718267a4960547147d46b
Author: Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Wed Aug 17 00:32:12 2016 +0200

    Fix a crash on IMAP login when using a password plugin.

    Fixes bug #3667.

--- Comment #6 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Patch applied in git, thanks for reporting!

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Aug 18 01:13:36 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:13:36 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3665] Fix config script for macOS
In-Reply-To: <bug-3665-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3665-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3665-595-gtntxmfFhs@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3665

--- Comment #4 from Yurii Kolesnykov <yurikoles at gmail.com> ---
Seems like working.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Aug 18 01:15:43 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 23:15:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3673] New: Be more friendly instead of "configure:
 error: 'encrypt'-function not found."
Message-ID: <bug-3673-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3673

            Bug ID: 3673
           Summary: Be more friendly instead of "configure: error:
                    'encrypt'-function not found."
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: Macintosh
                OS: Mac OS X 10.2
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: yurikoles at gmail.com

I have error in configure script.
>configure: error: 'encrypt'-function not found.

It will be nice if script could advice users on how to install missing package.

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From bleketux at gmail.com  Thu Aug 18 09:02:48 2016
From: bleketux at gmail.com (M. Sulchan Darmawan)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 14:02:48 +0700
Subject: [Users] unable to change keyboard shortcut and limited message
 download
In-Reply-To: <20160816150617.7e842e6b@mc33>
References: <20160816124339.018789ba@mc33> <20160816084809.24171603@kujata>
 <20160816150617.7e842e6b@mc33>
Message-ID: <20160818140248.56734c6d@mc33>

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:06:17 +0700
M Sulchan Darmawan <bleketux at gmail.com> wrote:

> > I've tested this on KUbuntu 16.04.1 LTS and it works just fine. If
> > you have verified that the "Enable customisable keyboard shortcuts"
> > is set, then it must be Unity or Gnome, or whatever DE you are
> > using, which is preventing that.  
> 
> Thanks, than it must be Unity.
> I didn't have this problem when using Linux Mint.

Well, to satisfy my curiosity, I did a clean install Linux Mint 18
today. And also clean install claws-mail (also removing .claws-mail
folder, but still use existing Mail folder).

The customisable keyboard shortcuts work perfectly. But other problem I
haven´t mention it before is about ¨remove message on server when
received¨.

To keep my messages on the server when I popped the message, I
already have unchecked the option. But the result is all my email
removed from the server :(
Please re-test on your side.
This was happend on ubuntu and mint.

To prevent the message from deleted, now I checked the option and set
remove after 360 days. :D

Thanks.
Sulchan


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Aug 18 09:40:44 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 08:40:44 +0100
Subject: [Users] unable to change keyboard shortcut and limited message
 download
In-Reply-To: <20160818140248.56734c6d@mc33>
References: <20160816124339.018789ba@mc33> <20160816084809.24171603@kujata>
 <20160816150617.7e842e6b@mc33> <20160818140248.56734c6d@mc33>
Message-ID: <20160818084044.00ace79c@kujata>

On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 14:02:48 +0700
"M. Sulchan Darmawan" <bleketux at gmail.com> wrote: 

> To keep my messages on the server when I popped the message, I
> already have unchecked the option. But the result is all my email
> removed from the server :(
> Please re-test on your side.
> This was happend on ubuntu and mint.

This is what's supposed to happen. That's how it works.

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Aug 18 09:45:21 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 07:45:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3673] Be more friendly instead of "configure: error:
 'encrypt'-function not found."
In-Reply-To: <bug-3673-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3673-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3673-595-kh2SdxBoPG@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3673

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |PATCHESWELCOME

--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
You'll be having a hard time trying to provide such advice in a way that works
in  *all* systems where configure can be run.

Anyway, I'm *not* closing it as WONTFIX, in case somebody feels brave today ;-)

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From bleketux at gmail.com  Thu Aug 18 10:43:27 2016
From: bleketux at gmail.com (M. Sulchan Darmawan)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 15:43:27 +0700
Subject: [Users] unable to change keyboard shortcut and limited message
 download
In-Reply-To: <20160818084044.00ace79c@kujata>
References: <20160816124339.018789ba@mc33> <20160816084809.24171603@kujata>
 <20160816150617.7e842e6b@mc33> <20160818140248.56734c6d@mc33>
 <20160818084044.00ace79c@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160818154327.39c37a72@mc33>

On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 08:40:44 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> > To keep my messages on the server when I popped the message, I
> > already have unchecked the option. But the result is all my email
> > removed from the server :(
> > Please re-test on your side.
> > This was happend on ubuntu and mint.  
> 
> This is what's supposed to happen. That's how it works.

Ouch... seriously? let me rephrase that, in my point of view as
regulare user, doesn´t it means that:

YES remove messages on server when received

YES = check box selected.
Then it means will remove the message on server.

DON´T remove message on server when received

DON´T = check box unselected.
Then it means it will not remove the message on server.

is that correct? if so, then I have the opposite result.
My checkbox is unselected, but it remove all message on server.

and a view hours later...
after the checkbox selected with 360 days period removal, and then
deselect the checkbox, now it behave as expected.
weird.

Anyway, Thanks.

Sorry to confuse you.
Sulchan


From barry at python.org  Thu Aug 18 16:18:34 2016
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 10:18:34 -0400
Subject: [Users] No fun with Google 2FA
References: <20160816151718.7594b1f0@anarchist.wooz.org>
 <20160816212728.2435932f@penny>
Message-ID: <20160818101834.50732681@anarchist.wooz.org>

On Aug 16, 2016, at 09:27 PM, Andrej Kacian wrote:

>This happens only if you do not have the password saved in your account
>preferences, or the password saved there is incorrect. Have you tried
>storing the password there? It is permanent, so if the "app password"
>doesn't change on server side, it should last.

Ah thanks!   I mistakenly thought that "Sav[ing] the password for for this
session" would update that password, but you actually have to go into account
preferences and change it there.

Cheers,
-Barry
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From bugs.michael at gmx.net  Thu Aug 18 18:38:38 2016
From: bugs.michael at gmx.net (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 18:38:38 +0200
Subject: [Users] Clawsker 0.7.14 unleashed!
In-Reply-To: <20160816191641.2c05959b@busgosu>
References: <20160816191641.2c05959b@busgosu>
Message-ID: <20160818183838.735dfd5d@noname>

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:16:41 +0200, Ricardo Mones wrote:

>   - Support hidden preferences 'next_on_delete' (since Claws Mail
>     3.13.1) and 'master_passphrase_pbkdf2_rounds' (since 3.14.0)

I guess it spits out a warning (use of uninitialized value ... in line 470),
if running it with Claws Mail 3.13.2, since "master_passphrase_pbkdf2_rounds"
is new in 3.14.0:

diff -Nur clawsker-0.7.14-orig/clawsker clawsker-0.7.14/clawsker
--- clawsker-0.7.14-orig/clawsker	2016-08-16 17:27:47.000000000 +0200
+++ clawsker-0.7.14/clawsker	2016-08-18 18:34:58.562582913 +0200
@@ -467,7 +467,9 @@
     my $pagei = int (($type[2] - $type[1]) / 10);
     my $gentry = Gtk2::SpinButton->new_with_range ($type[1], $type[2], $pagei);
     $gentry->set_numeric (TRUE);
-    $gentry->set_value ($HPVALUE{$name});
+    if (defined($HPVALUE{$name})) {
+        $gentry->set_value ($HPVALUE{$name});
+    }
     $$hash{$key}[GUI] = $gentry;
     $gentry->signal_connect('value-changed' => sub {
             my ($w, $e) = @_;


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Aug 19 00:15:06 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 22:15:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3674] New: Does not handle large attachments
Message-ID: <bug-3674-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3674

            Bug ID: 3674
           Summary: Does not handle large attachments
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.13.2
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: wazz at ellijay.com

Been using Claws on Windows for years.  It has always been lousy on large
attachments.  Sometimes takes forever to send, sometimes never sends.

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From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Fri Aug 19 02:25:52 2016
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 17:25:52 -0700
Subject: [Users] delete behaviour
Message-ID: <20160818172552.4c02bf18@frogguski.911networks.com>

Just upgrade to from 3.13.2 to 3.14 on arch.

The folder is sorted ascending by date: oldest at top and newest at
the bottom.

Going to the oldest entry, pressing the delete key it does delete the
message and then moves to the newest message, at the bottom.

Is there a setting to restore the old behaviour or is this
related  to the thread next_on_delete which is supposed to "Default is
'0', select previous message"

mine is set to 0

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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Fri Aug 19 04:32:42 2016
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 22:32:42 -0400
Subject: [Users] Very bizarre behavior in searching
Message-ID: <20160818223242.49bfc32d@mydesk.domain.cxm>

Hi all,

This is bizarre, and the most likely guess I have for what made it
happen is user error (repeated). But just in case it's a legitimate
Claws problem, I'll let you know here...

I extended searched my inbox for:

~D & al 60 & f brett

to find emails from my son. There were none, which is wrong. After a
whole bunch of evaluation, I saw that my inbox had a "to" column
instead of a "from" column, so of course my search turned up nobody.

While I tried to figure out how to change the columns in the message
list, my inbox magically reverted to having a from column instead of a
to column, and my searches started working again.

By far the most likely explanation is I was in the Sent folder instead
of Inbox, and just didn't know it (twice). But just in case this
*isn't* caused by Defective User, I'm recording what happened here.

Thanks,

SteveT

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From ricardo at mones.org  Fri Aug 19 08:51:29 2016
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:51:29 +0200
Subject: [Users] Clawsker 0.7.14 unleashed!
In-Reply-To: <20160818183838.735dfd5d@noname>
References: <20160816191641.2c05959b@busgosu> <20160818183838.735dfd5d@noname>
Message-ID: <20160819065128.GA26819@busgosu.mones.org>

Hi Michael,

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 06:38:38PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:16:41 +0200, Ricardo Mones wrote:
> 
> >   - Support hidden preferences 'next_on_delete' (since Claws Mail
> >     3.13.1) and 'master_passphrase_pbkdf2_rounds' (since 3.14.0)
> 
> I guess it spits out a warning (use of uninitialized value ... in line 470),
> if running it with Claws Mail 3.13.2, since "master_passphrase_pbkdf2_rounds"
> is new in 3.14.0:

Yes, noticed it post-release, but it's already been fixed in git:
https://github.com/mones/clawsker/commit/a494d5e

Thanks anyway ;-)
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  You have the capacity to learn from mistakes. You'll learn a lot 
  today.                                           /usr/games/fortune

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Aug 19 09:12:51 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 07:12:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3674] Does not handle large attachments
In-Reply-To: <bug-3674-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3674-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3674-595-cfq2olV2SZ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3674

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
They've always been handled perfectly well here.

Define 'large'.

The problems which you describe, are they with one server only?

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From anmeyer at mailbox.org  Fri Aug 19 15:00:31 2016
From: anmeyer at mailbox.org (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 15:00:31 +0200
Subject: [Users] letsencrypt renew
Message-ID: <20160819150031.17815ca7@workstation.bitcorner.intern>

Hello!

Using a certificate (with a lifetime of 3 months) from letsencrypt disposes
a user of claws-mail to manually accept the new certificate every time it
changed.

What is the way to go to avoid this?

Greetings

  Andreas


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Fri Aug 19 15:17:21 2016
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 14:17:21 +0100
Subject: [Users] letsencrypt renew
In-Reply-To: <20160819150031.17815ca7@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
References: <20160819150031.17815ca7@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
Message-ID: <20160819141721.00007e9c@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 15:00:31 +0200
Andreas Meyer wrote:

> Using a certificate (with a lifetime of 3 months) from letsencrypt
> disposes a user of claws-mail to manually accept the new certificate
> every time it changed.
> 
> What is the way to go to avoid this?

Why would you not want to check a new certificate to make sure that
it's valid and comes from where you expect?

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Aug 19 15:17:48 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 14:17:48 +0100
Subject: [Users] letsencrypt renew
In-Reply-To: <20160819150031.17815ca7@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
References: <20160819150031.17815ca7@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
Message-ID: <20160819141748.36f843b0@kujata>

On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 15:00:31 +0200
Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at mailbox.org> wrote: 

> What is the way to go to avoid this?

Account preference: 'Automatically accept valid certificates'

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Aug 19 21:28:38 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 19:28:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3674] Does not handle large attachments
In-Reply-To: <bug-3674-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3674-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3674-595-GXBIy7dAZt@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3674

--- Comment #2 from wazz at ellijay.com ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> They've always been handled perfectly well here.
> 
> Define 'large'.
> 
> The problems which you describe, are they with one server only?


I just tried to send a PDF that is only 22KB.  Claws hung there for awhile,
then gave the "Could not queue message for sending" error.  I notice in the bug
reports, others have had this problem.

This often happens with the PDFs.  My solution has been to disconnect from my
LAN via a shortcut I have on my desktop, then reconnect.  Claws usually sends
the PDF out right away after that.

Other files Claws hangs on are much larger, databases and exe's  I am trying to
send my son.  It has gotten so problematic that we use Teamviewer to link up
and do a file transfer.

The hangs occur both for my local server/ISP which is my "main" personal
account, but it also occurs when sending email thru my website based addresses,
of which I use several.  They are all on another server in Texas.


Thanks
Steve

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Aug 19 23:59:53 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 21:59:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3674] Does not handle large attachments
In-Reply-To: <bug-3674-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3674-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3674-595-LgF62rnWzN@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3674

--- Comment #3 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
(In reply to comment #2)
> I notice in the
> bug reports, others have had this problem.

which ones?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Aug 20 00:33:20 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 22:33:20 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3674] Does not handle large attachments
In-Reply-To: <bug-3674-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3674-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3674-595-q6td7bQKZu@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3674

--- Comment #4 from wazz at ellijay.com ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> (In reply to comment #2)
> > I notice in the
> > bug reports, others have had this problem.
> 
> which ones?

Bug 2262 ?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Aug 20 09:15:42 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 07:15:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3674] Does not handle large attachments
In-Reply-To: <bug-3674-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3674-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3674-595-d6sfnZ6aah@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3674

--- Comment #5 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
(In reply to comment #4) 
> Bug 2262 ?

You're using IMAP also? (You didn't say) Is this report a duplicate of bug
#2262?

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From anmeyer at mailbox.org  Sat Aug 20 13:29:03 2016
From: anmeyer at mailbox.org (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 13:29:03 +0200
Subject: [Users] letsencrypt renew
In-Reply-To: <20160819141748.36f843b0@kujata>
References: <20160819150031.17815ca7@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
 <20160819141748.36f843b0@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160820132903.26790b92@workstation.bitcorner.intern>

Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> schrieb am 19.08.16 um 14:17:48 Uhr:

> On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 15:00:31 +0200
> Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at mailbox.org> wrote: 
> 
> > What is the way to go to avoid this?
> 
> Account preference: 'Automatically accept valid certificates'

Am I right, this feature is not available in version 3.8.1?

  Andreas


From anmeyer at mailbox.org  Sat Aug 20 13:31:38 2016
From: anmeyer at mailbox.org (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 13:31:38 +0200
Subject: [Users] letsencrypt renew
In-Reply-To: <20160819141721.00007e9c@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20160819150031.17815ca7@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
 <20160819141721.00007e9c@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20160820133138.615b1f3e@workstation.bitcorner.intern>

Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> schrieb am 19.08.16 um 14:17:21 Uhr:

> On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 15:00:31 +0200
> Andreas Meyer wrote:
> 
> > Using a certificate (with a lifetime of 3 months) from letsencrypt
> > disposes a user of claws-mail to manually accept the new certificate
> > every time it changed.
> > 
> > What is the way to go to avoid this?
> 
> Why would you not want to check a new certificate to make sure that
> it's valid and comes from where you expect?
 
I think users would be confused when they have to accept a new
certificate every two months. Maybe they ask themselves what kind
of provider this is, changing the certificate so often ;)

Greetings

  Andreas


From ricardo at mones.org  Sat Aug 20 13:51:29 2016
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 13:51:29 +0200
Subject: [Users] letsencrypt renew
In-Reply-To: <20160820132903.26790b92@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
References: <20160819150031.17815ca7@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
 <20160819141748.36f843b0@kujata>
 <20160820132903.26790b92@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
Message-ID: <20160820135129.2af8560c@busgosu>

On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 13:29:03 +0200
Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at mailbox.org> wrote:

> Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> schrieb am 19.08.16 um 14:17:48 Uhr:
> 
> > On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 15:00:31 +0200
> > Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at mailbox.org> wrote: 
> >   
> > > What is the way to go to avoid this?  
> > 
> > Account preference: 'Automatically accept valid certificates'  
> 
> Am I right, this feature is not available in version 3.8.1?

It's not: 3.8.1 is from 2012, and this feature was added 2 years later.

You should really upgrade if still using 3.8.1.

regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  Don't take the name of root in vain.          /usr/src/linux/README

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From andrej at kacian.sk  Sat Aug 20 13:57:09 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 13:57:09 +0200
Subject: [Users] letsencrypt renew
In-Reply-To: <20160820132903.26790b92@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
References: <20160819150031.17815ca7@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
 <20160819141748.36f843b0@kujata>
 <20160820132903.26790b92@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
Message-ID: <20160820135709.098211a5@penny>

On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 13:29:03 +0200
Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at mailbox.org> wrote:

> Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> schrieb am 19.08.16 um 14:17:48 Uhr:
> 
> > On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 15:00:31 +0200
> > Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at mailbox.org> wrote: 
> >   
> > > What is the way to go to avoid this?  
> > 
> > Account preference: 'Automatically accept valid certificates'  
> 
> Am I right, this feature is not available in version 3.8.1?

That is correct. 3.8.1 was released on June 27th 2012, while this
preference was added[1] on May 28th 2014.

You really should upgrade if you're still using 3.8.1, quite a lot of
good stuff was added/fixed in past four years. :)


1. http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=78965aa

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From anmeyer at mailbox.org  Sat Aug 20 14:27:24 2016
From: anmeyer at mailbox.org (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 14:27:24 +0200
Subject: [Users] letsencrypt renew
In-Reply-To: <20160820135709.098211a5@penny>
References: <20160819150031.17815ca7@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
 <20160819141748.36f843b0@kujata>
 <20160820132903.26790b92@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
 <20160820135709.098211a5@penny>
Message-ID: <20160820142724.0a141842@workstation.bitcorner.intern>

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> schrieb am 20.08.16 um 13:57:09 Uhr:

> On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 13:29:03 +0200
> Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at mailbox.org> wrote:
> 
> > Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> schrieb am 19.08.16 um 14:17:48 Uhr:
> > 
> > > On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 15:00:31 +0200
> > > Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at mailbox.org> wrote: 
> > >   
> > > > What is the way to go to avoid this?  
> > > 
> > > Account preference: 'Automatically accept valid certificates'  
> > 
> > Am I right, this feature is not available in version 3.8.1?
> 
> That is correct. 3.8.1 was released on June 27th 2012, while this
> preference was added[1] on May 28th 2014.
> 
> You really should upgrade if you're still using 3.8.1, quite a lot of
> good stuff was added/fixed in past four years. :)
> 
> 
> 1. http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=78965aa

Well, I was compiling version 3.14.0 on my opensuse 12.2 and installed
it, but then a had a problem with not finding PGP/core or something like
that. Saying my PGP/core is to old.

  Andreas


From anmeyer at mailbox.org  Sat Aug 20 18:09:39 2016
From: anmeyer at mailbox.org (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 18:09:39 +0200
Subject: [Users] letsencrypt renew
In-Reply-To: <20160820142724.0a141842@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
References: <20160819150031.17815ca7@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
 <20160819141748.36f843b0@kujata>
 <20160820132903.26790b92@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
 <20160820135709.098211a5@penny>
 <20160820142724.0a141842@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
Message-ID: <20160820180939.1536cf71@workstation.bitcorner.intern>

Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at mailbox.org> schrieb am 20.08.16 um 14:27:24 Uhr:
> Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> schrieb am 20.08.16 um 13:57:09 Uhr:

> > That is correct. 3.8.1 was released on June 27th 2012, while this
> > preference was added[1] on May 28th 2014.
> > 
> > You really should upgrade if you're still using 3.8.1, quite a lot of
> > good stuff was added/fixed in past four years. :)
> > 
> > 
> > 1. http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=78965aa  
> 
> Well, I was compiling version 3.14.0 on my opensuse 12.2 and installed
> it, but then a had a problem with not finding PGP/core or something like
> that. Saying my PGP/core is to old.

Wow, got it up and running after upgrading to gpgme 1.6.0.
One can search in the addressbook, how great :) and I can
automatically accept valid certificates.

That rocks!

  Andreas



claws-mail 3.14.0

Using Address Book : Original stable interface
JPilot             : no
LDAP               : no
gnuTLS             : yes
iconv              : yes
compface           : no
IPv6               : yes
enchant            : no
IMAP4              : yes
NNTP               : yes
Crash dialog       : no
LibSM              : yes
DBUS               : yes
NetworkManager     : no
Manual             : no
Generic UMPC code  : no
Config dir         : .claws-mail
Password crypto    : gnutls
Plugins
   Built:
            - acpi_notifier
            - address_keeper
            - att_remover
            - attachwarner
            - bogofilter
            - bsfilter
            - clamd
            - fetchinfo
            - libravatar
            - mailmbox
            - managesieve
            - newmail
            - notification
                Features:
                    banner
                    command
                    hotkeys
                    lcdproc
                    popup
                    trayicon
                Disabled due to missing dependencies:
                    libindicate
                    libnotify
                    libcanberra-gtk
            - perl
            - pgpcore
            - pgpmime
            - pgpinline
            - rssyl
            - spamassassin
            - smime
            - spam_report
            - tnef_parse
            - vcalendar
   Disabled:
            - demo
   Disabled due to missing dependencies:
            - archive
            - fancy
            - gdata
            - pdf_viewer
            - python

The binary will be installed in /usr/binary


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Aug 20 18:29:31 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 16:29:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3674] Does not handle large attachments
In-Reply-To: <bug-3674-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3674-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3674-595-PuXu6cW9Ak@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3674

--- Comment #6 from wazz at ellijay.com ---
(In reply to comment #5)
> (In reply to comment #4) 
> > Bug 2262 ?
> 
> You're using IMAP also? (You didn't say) Is this report a duplicate of bug
> #2262?

For my several email addresses where I have this problem, all IMAP.  I do use
local folders to archive.  

I cannot say if it is a duplicate of 2262.  Does appear similar.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Aug 20 18:37:53 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 16:37:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3674] Does not handle large attachments
In-Reply-To: <bug-3674-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3674-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3674-595-H7C65HELDB@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3674

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #7 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Attach a Network Log of when this problem occurs to bug 2262

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 2262 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Aug 20 18:37:53 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 16:37:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2262] Frequent occurrences of "Could not queue message
 for sending"
In-Reply-To: <bug-2262-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2262-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2262-595-W4GrucSrQQ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2262

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |wazz at ellijay.com

--- Comment #12 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
*** Bug 3674 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Sat Aug 20 19:14:37 2016
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 10:14:37 -0700
Subject: [Users] letsencrypt renew
In-Reply-To: <20160820133138.615b1f3e@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
References: <20160819150031.17815ca7@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
 <20160819141721.00007e9c@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20160820133138.615b1f3e@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
Message-ID: <20160820101437.34af7d74@frogguski.911networks.com>

On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 13:31:38 +0200
Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at mailbox.org> wrote:

>I think users would be confused when they have to accept a new
>certificate every two months. Maybe they ask themselves what kind
>of provider this is, changing the certificate so often ;)

Google sets its gmail certificate for 84 days and people do not seem
to notice or complain:

		SSL Server Certificate

Issued To

Common Name (CN)		accounts.google.com
Organization (O)			Google Inc
Organizational Unit (OU)	<Not Part Of Certificate>
Serial Number			7C:A6:02:5B:11:5B:3E:E1

Issued By

Common Name (CN)		Google Internet Authority G2
Organization (O)			Google Inc
Organizational Unit (OU)	<Not Part Of Certificate>

Validity Period

Issued On		Wednesday, August 10, 2016 at 11:32:25 AM
Expires On		Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 11:13:00 AM


-- 
sknahT

vyS


From myetto1 at nycap.rr.com  Sat Aug 20 22:51:08 2016
From: myetto1 at nycap.rr.com (Michael A. Yetto)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 16:51:08 -0400
Subject: [Users] New compile: libwebkit not found
Message-ID: <20160820165108.7be90d6a@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>

Claws Users, 

I just compiled the git version of Claws in Kubuntu 16.04.01 with just
less than perfect results. I couldn't get the Fancy plugin to build and
install.

After autogen.sh and this: "./configure
--build=x86_64-kubuntu-linux-gnu --disable-maintainer-mode
--prefix=/usr --disable-s tatic --enable-silent-rules --disable-jpilot
--enable-enchant --enable-gnutls --enable-ldap --enable -crash-dialog
--enable-pgpmime-plugin --enable-spamassassin-plugin
--enable-bogofilter-plugin", the config.log file has the following
messages.

==========
configure:20934: checking for WEBKIT
configure:20941: $PKG_CONFIG --exists --print-errors "webkit-1.0 >=
1.1.14" Package webkit-1.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `webkit-1.0.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'webkit-1.0' found
configure:20944: $? = 1
configure:20958: $PKG_CONFIG --exists --print-errors "webkit-1.0 >=
1.1.14" 
Package webkit-1.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `webkit-1.0.pc' 
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'webkit-1.0' found
configure:20961: $? = 1
configure:20975: result: no
No package 'webkit-1.0' found
...
configure:22704: checking whether to build fancy plugin
configure:22721: result: no
configure:22723: WARNING: "Plugin fancy will not be built; missing
libwebkit-1.0 "
===========
Executing 'locate webkit | grep "webkit-1\.0"' returns:
 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkgconfig/webkit-1.0.pc

My question is, since the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable doesn't
exist, how do I reconcile this?

Feel free to point out the obvious answer in what I just pasted from
the config.log file.

Thank you for your collected wisdom,
Mike Yetto
-- 
"In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the
humble reasoning of a single individual."
 - Galileo Galilei
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From andrej at kacian.sk  Sat Aug 20 23:03:17 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 23:03:17 +0200
Subject: [Users] New compile: libwebkit not found
In-Reply-To: <20160820165108.7be90d6a@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
References: <20160820165108.7be90d6a@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
Message-ID: <20160820230317.49312a52@penny>

On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 16:51:08 -0400
"Michael A. Yetto" <myetto1 at nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> Executing 'locate webkit | grep "webkit-1\.0"' returns:
>  /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkgconfig/webkit-1.0.pc

What does command

   pkg-config --exists --print-errors "webkit-1.0 >= 1.1.14"

say when you run it in a terminal?

Regards,
-- 
Andrej
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From myetto1 at nycap.rr.com  Sat Aug 20 23:26:43 2016
From: myetto1 at nycap.rr.com (Michael A. Yetto)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 17:26:43 -0400
Subject: [Users] New compile: libwebkit not found
In-Reply-To: <20160820230317.49312a52@penny>
References: <20160820165108.7be90d6a@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20160820230317.49312a52@penny>
Message-ID: <20160820172643.4e79d480@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>

On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 23:03:17 +0200
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

>On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 16:51:08 -0400
>"Michael A. Yetto" <myetto1 at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Executing 'locate webkit | grep "webkit-1\.0"' returns:
>>  /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkgconfig/webkit-1.0.pc  
>
>What does command
>
>   pkg-config --exists --print-errors "webkit-1.0 >= 1.1.14"
>
>say when you run it in a terminal?
>

Nothing is returned from this command, but it I raise the right side of
the condition enough I get the following.

Requested 'webkit-1.0 >= 3' but version of WebKit is 2.4.11

Mike Yetto
-- 
"Science should always be impartial in its application and it is vital
for administrators to affirm they believe in the scientific process and
in transparency and accountability."
 - Kirsty Duncan, science minister of Canada
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From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Aug 21 00:19:04 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 00:19:04 +0200
Subject: [Users] New compile: libwebkit not found
In-Reply-To: <20160820172643.4e79d480@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
References: <20160820165108.7be90d6a@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20160820230317.49312a52@penny>
 <20160820172643.4e79d480@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
Message-ID: <20160821001904.671215ed@penny>

On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 17:26:43 -0400
"Michael A. Yetto" <myetto1 at nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> Nothing is returned from this command, but it I raise the right side of
> the condition enough I get the following.
> 
> Requested 'webkit-1.0 >= 3' but version of WebKit is 2.4.11

That looks like pkg-config that the configure script finds and uses is
different from the one you're using in terminal. Try studying  complete
configure output (or config.log), the script first tries to find a
pkg-config executable, and sets PKG_CONFIG variable with what it finds.

Or you could just try setting
PKG_CONFIG_PATH="/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkgconfig".

Regards,
-- 
Andrej
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From mir at miras.org  Sun Aug 21 00:56:33 2016
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 00:56:33 +0200
Subject: [Users] New compile: libwebkit not found
In-Reply-To: <20160820172643.4e79d480@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
References: <20160820165108.7be90d6a@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20160820230317.49312a52@penny>
 <20160820172643.4e79d480@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
Message-ID: <20160821005633.77b843fb@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 17:26:43 -0400
"Michael A. Yetto" <myetto1 at nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> 
> Requested 'webkit-1.0 >= 3' but version of WebKit is 2.4.11
> 
To be able to build fancy plugin you need webkit1. You have webkit2
installed which is incompatible with webkit1 so therefore cannot
replace webkit1. You will however, be able to have both webkit1 and
webkit2 installed alongside each other.

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917
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From myetto1 at nycap.rr.com  Sun Aug 21 03:55:34 2016
From: myetto1 at nycap.rr.com (Michael A. Yetto)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 21:55:34 -0400
Subject: [Users] New compile: libwebkit not found
In-Reply-To: <20160821001904.671215ed@penny>
References: <20160820165108.7be90d6a@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20160820230317.49312a52@penny>
 <20160820172643.4e79d480@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20160821001904.671215ed@penny>
Message-ID: <20160820215534.73c3b033@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>

On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 00:19:04 +0200
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

>On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 17:26:43 -0400
>"Michael A. Yetto" <myetto1 at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Nothing is returned from this command, but it I raise the right side
>> of the condition enough I get the following.
>> 
>> Requested 'webkit-1.0 >= 3' but version of WebKit is 2.4.11  
>
>That looks like pkg-config that the configure script finds and uses is
>different from the one you're using in terminal. Try studying  complete
>configure output (or config.log), the script first tries to find a
>pkg-config executable, and sets PKG_CONFIG variable with what it finds.
>
>Or you could just try setting
>PKG_CONFIG_PATH="/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkgconfig".
>
>Regards,

That not only worked, but it is very close to the obvious
clue I expected in the data I originally sent. 

Always check the air in the tires first.

Thank you. 
Mike Yetto
-- 
"Captain, the most elementary and valuable statement in science, the
beginning of wisdom, is 'I do not know.'"
 - Lt. Commander Data
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Aug 21 16:41:05 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 14:41:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3547] S/MIME Feature Request
In-Reply-To: <bug-3547-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3547-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3547-595-06sgBpmDxk@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3547

tio.madrid at hotmail.com changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
            Version|3.13.0                      |3.14.0

--- Comment #1 from tio.madrid at hotmail.com ---
Signing an email with S/MIME on Windows 7 in Claws Mail
 version 3.14.0 with Gpg4win
Version 2.3.3 gives error Cannot sign: General error (1).
 According to http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/S/MIME_howto this
 "usually means that there's something wrong with the gpg-agent (e.g.
 not running or wrong environment)."

I seem not to find out how to adjust the S/MIME howto to
Windows 7.

What works though is verifying a signed S/MIME email.

How did you set it up on your Windows 7 machine?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Aug 21 16:49:54 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 14:49:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3675] New: RSSyl crash when opening Atom feed
Message-ID: <bug-3675-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3675

            Bug ID: 3675
           Summary: RSSyl crash when opening Atom feed
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.14.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/RSSyl
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: tosh at t0x0sh.org

Created attachment 1674
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1674&action=edit
The attached file reproduce the bug in the 3.14.0 version.

The RSSyl plugin crash when it tries to open an Atom feed where the "xmlns"
attribute isn't present in the <feed> tag.

I think the error occures in the _elparse_start_chooser function (parsers.c:90)
of the libfeed library :

            /* ATOM feed detected, let's check version */
            version = feed_parser_get_attribute_value(attr, "xmlns");
            if( !strcmp(version, "http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom") ||
                    !strcmp(version, "https://www.w3.org/2005/Atom") )
                feedtype = FEED_TYPE_ATOM_10;
            else
                feedtype = FEED_TYPE_ATOM_03;


In this piece of code, the return of the feed_parser_get_attribute_value isn't
checked : a NULL pointer can be passed to the strcmp function if the attribute
"xmlns" doesn't exist.

The attached file reproduce the bug in the 3.14.0 version.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Aug 21 16:53:13 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 14:53:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3539] Print job fails
In-Reply-To: <bug-3539-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3539-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3539-595-U6HcdsQgKE@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3539

tio.madrid at hotmail.com changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
            Version|3.13.0                      |3.14.0

--- Comment #24 from tio.madrid at hotmail.com ---
Problem persists. Upgraded to claws-mail 3.14.0 and installed Gpg4win Version
2.3.3.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Aug 21 16:57:40 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 14:57:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3546] IMAP Count of Messages
In-Reply-To: <bug-3546-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3546-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3546-595-kB1moUdvny@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3546

tio.madrid at hotmail.com changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
            Version|3.13.0                      |3.14.0
         Resolution|---                         |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #1 from tio.madrid at hotmail.com ---
Upgraded to Claws Mail version 3.14.0. Problem solved.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Aug 21 17:01:06 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 15:01:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3675] RSSyl crash when opening Atom feed
In-Reply-To: <bug-3675-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3675-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3675-595-IaScSYCuVm@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3675

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2016-08-21 17:01:02.703292734 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e1ff63e08eb5bef199be54cd0ac1d451028f7ac
Merge: e13190b 7734bcf
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Sun Aug 21 17:01:02 2016 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=7734bcfabb5152ae4d91c1e1f2bb7a29d272e26f
Author: Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Sun Aug 21 16:58:22 2016 +0200

    Fix crash when an Atom feed's opening tag doesn't have xmlns attribute.

    Closes bug #3675.

--- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
You are right, I forgot to check whether version is NULL. Fixed in git just
now. Thanks!

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Aug 21 17:17:04 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 15:17:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3676] New: RSSyl crash when opening Atom feed with XML
 depth >= 3
Message-ID: <bug-3676-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3676

            Bug ID: 3676
           Summary: RSSyl crash when opening Atom feed with XML depth >= 3
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.14.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: tosh at t0x0sh.org

Created attachment 1675
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1675&action=edit
The attached file reproduce this bug in 3.14.0.

There is a NULL pointer dereference in the RSSyl plugin (claw-mail 3.14.0), in
the feed_parser_atom10_start function of the libfeed library.

At parser_atom10.c:110 we have this piece of code :

    } else if (ctx->depth >= 3) {
        if (ctx->curitem->xhtml_content
                && ctx->location == FEED_LOC_ATOM10_CONTENT) {
            guint i;
            GString *txt = ctx->xhtml_str;
            g_string_append_c(txt, '<');

Everywhere the ctx->curitem pointer is checked except in this "if" block.

Here, if the ctx->curitem is NULL we have a NULL pointer dereference when we
try to access to ctx->curitem->xhtml_content field and the RSSyl plugin crash.

The attached file reproduce this bug.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Aug 21 17:21:29 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 15:21:29 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3676] RSSyl crash when opening Atom feed with XML
	depth >= 3
In-Reply-To: <bug-3676-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3676-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3676-595-ojujK14IPs@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3676

tosh <tosh at t0x0sh.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
          Component|Plugins                     |Plugins/RSSyl

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Aug 21 21:38:15 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 19:38:15 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3676] RSSyl crash when opening Atom feed with XML
	depth >= 3
In-Reply-To: <bug-3676-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3676-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3676-595-RB645Vulhr@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3676

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2016-08-21 21:38:02.421208610 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca10542850eaa75e1345794081aec41652be12d7
Merge: 1e1ff63 89af524
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Sun Aug 21 21:38:01 2016 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=89af524b6729737d8a3ad22a4aa1fe27481f80d1
Author: Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Sun Aug 21 21:36:12 2016 +0200

    Fix NULL pointer dereference in Atom parser.

    Closes bug #3676.

--- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
You're right, it was careless of me to omit that check. Nice catch again,
thanks! Fixed in git.

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From anmeyer at mailbox.org  Tue Aug 23 02:04:29 2016
From: anmeyer at mailbox.org (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 02:04:29 +0200
Subject: [Users] a question about pgp-signature
Message-ID: <20160823020429.4fddb165@workstation.bitcorner.intern>

Hello!

I used to see something like this at the buttom of a message
when one was singend with PGP

[signature.asc  application/pgp-signature (181 Bytes)] 

Since upgrading to version 3.14.0 I don't see this anymore.

Am I missing something?

Regards

  Andreas


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 23 08:49:03 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 06:49:03 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2975] Implement setting -0000 timezone to hide sender
	localtime
In-Reply-To: <bug-2975-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2975-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2975-595-uwcL4yNvzG@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2975

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #2 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2016-08-22 19:09:03.170296681 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=c5a2e03b3c0899883e3f560e0d25dbd0bc6e8c74
Merge: 143d263 f4e8599
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Mon Aug 22 19:09:02 2016 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=f4e859902a0541db982248ee4a59901e0568d381
Author: Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
Date:   Mon Aug 22 19:07:36 2016 +0200

    Document the new hidden preference 'hide_timezone'

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=3a89a270fcad59901d8fcdc901ac03523c6aeb03
Author: Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
Date:   Mon Aug 22 19:02:47 2016 +0200

    Fix bug #2975: Implement setting -0000 timezone to hide sender localtime

    This adds a new hidden preference, namely 'hide_timezone', that
    sets the timezone of date fields sent over the network to the
    unknown timezone value as specified in RFC 5322 §3.3.

    Default value is false (i.e., send available timezone information).

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 23 09:14:30 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 08:14:30 +0100
Subject: [Users] a question about pgp-signature
In-Reply-To: <20160823020429.4fddb165@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
References: <20160823020429.4fddb165@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
Message-ID: <20160823081430.57bb1341@kujata>

On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 02:04:29 +0200
Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at mailbox.org> wrote: 

> I used to see something like this at the buttom of a message
> when one was singend with PGP
> 
> [signature.asc  application/pgp-signature (181 Bytes)] 
> 
> Since upgrading to version 3.14.0 I don't see this anymore.
> 
> Am I missing something?

No, you're not missing anything.

For "[signature.asc  application/pgp-signature (181 Bytes)]" to be
displayed the signature part needs to be tagged "Content-Disposition:
attachment;", however, since version 3.11.0, (some 2 years since the
commit now) the "Content-Disposition: attachment;" is no longer added
to signature parts.

See
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=81b0679965b506fce98bedb70f74f8df70e81312
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3239

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 23 09:38:14 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 07:38:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2428] Password obfuscator fails to decrypt some
	passwords
In-Reply-To: <bug-2428-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2428-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2428-595-iP1jjdHJbn@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2428

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #3 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
The 3.14.0 release implements a completely new password storage backend.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 23 09:44:26 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 07:44:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3157] Problem with long password in LDAP config
In-Reply-To: <bug-3157-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3157-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3157-595-TTXAoQhQyl@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3157

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #2 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
No response, closing. Please test with latest release before reopening.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 23 09:49:09 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 07:49:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3344] Password dialog should indicate if the
 connection is/will be secure
In-Reply-To: <bug-3344-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3344-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3344-595-hIEKEps5IE@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3344

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #2 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
No response, closing.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 23 10:50:36 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 08:50:36 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3515] Ctrl-Shift-X opens multiple external editors
In-Reply-To: <bug-3515-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3515-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3515-595-jsJxePWTe4@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3515

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
Doesn't reproduce now, so I guess this has been side-fixed by
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=388820da

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 23 12:46:39 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:46:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3677] New: Next message not selected after deleting in
 descending date sort
Message-ID: <bug-3677-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3677

            Bug ID: 3677
           Summary: Next message not selected after deleting in descending
                    date sort
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.14.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message List
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: off at free.fr

Hi,

I have the messages list sorted by "Date", "Descending". Claws-mail used to
select the next (unread) message when I deleted a mail, but with 3.14.0 it now
selects the previous (read) message instead, so I have to click on the next
message myself. It’s a bit tedious when I have many messages to process.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 23 12:53:12 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:53:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3677] Next message not selected after deleting in
 descending date sort
In-Reply-To: <bug-3677-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3677-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3677-595-w7PJ7twqp7@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3677

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
See the release notes, manual and mailing list archive:

http://www.claws-mail.org/NEWS
http://www.claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html#adv_hidden
http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2016-August/thread.html


Look specifically for next_on_delete.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 23 13:07:54 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 11:07:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3677] Next message not selected after deleting in
 descending date sort
In-Reply-To: <bug-3677-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3677-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3677-595-gfBDYOqL5j@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3677

--- Comment #2 from Olivier Fabre <off at free.fr> ---
I see this message that didn’t get any answer:
http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2016-August/017046.html

I read the release notes before posting this bug report and saw this cryptic
information: "Preferences: The 'next_on_delete' hidden preference now applies
to trashing or moving, in addition to deleting, a message."
It’s not clear what it means, and I did not see any option related to that in
the GUI.

I’ll look at this hidden option, thanks for the link, but wouldn’t it be better
if it wasn’t hidden?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 23 22:09:46 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 20:09:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3678] New: Segfault when trying to add new account
Message-ID: <bug-3678-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3678

            Bug ID: 3678
           Summary: Segfault when trying to add new account
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: major
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: flo.xfce at gmx-topmail.de

Created attachment 1676
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gdb backtrace

Trying to open the submenus under Configuration "Edit Account Settings",
"Create New Account", "Edit Preferences For Current Acount" results in a
segmentation fault. Inital account configuration when running claws for the
first time works.
Attaches a gdb backtrace.
This segfault seems to be a result of the gtk library I am using. I am on Arch
Linux. The original gtk2 from the official repositories works, but with my
self-compiled version I I have the described segfault.
For the configure line please see the next comment because I can't figure out
how to add multiple attachments.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 23 22:11:27 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 20:11:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3678] Segfault when trying to add new account
In-Reply-To: <bug-3678-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3678-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3678

--- Comment #1 from flo.xfce at gmx-topmail.de ---
Created attachment 1677
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gtk2 configure line

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 24 02:59:34 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 00:59:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3515] Ctrl-Shift-X opens multiple external editors
In-Reply-To: <bug-3515-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3515-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3515-595-SuwBqKFOSb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3515

--- Comment #2 from Khumba <claws-bugs-20218 at khumba.net> ---
Nothing's changed here with Claws 3.14.0 (Debian Stretch).

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 24 06:45:24 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 04:45:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3515] Ctrl-Shift-X opens multiple external editors
In-Reply-To: <bug-3515-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3515-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3515-595-vgZ7pD3whS@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3515

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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         Resolution|FIXED                       |---

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 24 06:49:00 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 04:49:00 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3678] Segfault when trying to add new account
In-Reply-To: <bug-3678-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3678-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3678-595-vmYCieFaNS@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3678

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #2 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
The backtrace is not useful because you're using stripped binaries. And, (you
pretty much said it yourself), it looks like GTK is the problem. If you have
more information, then re-open this. In the meantime I'm closing it as INVALID.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 24 10:10:38 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 08:10:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3515] Ctrl-Shift-X opens multiple external editors
In-Reply-To: <bug-3515-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3515-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3515-595-hMe246k1m1@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3515

--- Comment #3 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #2)
> Nothing's changed here with Claws 3.14.0 (Debian Stretch).

Which external editor are you using?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 24 10:35:14 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 08:35:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3679] New: IMAP error on localhost: FETCH error
Message-ID: <bug-3679-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3679

            Bug ID: 3679
           Summary: IMAP error on localhost: FETCH error
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.14.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: major
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders/IMAP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: tellauri+CMB at gmail.com

I'can not display messages. I'm using davmail as gateaway. It's works
flawlessly with thunderbird. It's a exchange account.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 24 10:36:11 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 08:36:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3679] IMAP error on localhost: FETCH error
In-Reply-To: <bug-3679-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3679-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3679-595-XRKJkijIDX@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3679

--- Comment #1 from tellauri <tellauri+CMB at gmail.com> ---
Created attachment 1678
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log file

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 24 10:38:00 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 08:38:00 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3679] IMAP error on localhost: FETCH error
In-Reply-To: <bug-3679-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3679-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3679-595-Fzh7yO0i7s@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3679

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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          Component|Folders/IMAP                |default
            Product|Claws Mail                  |Claws Mail (Windows)
           Severity|major                       |normal

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 24 12:45:51 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 10:45:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3515] Ctrl-Shift-X opens multiple external editors
In-Reply-To: <bug-3515-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3515-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3515-595-GHAQzAFgfv@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3515

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|REOPENED                    |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #4 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2016-08-24 12:21:03.111669927 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=3a162b359277f1b7371f040db1757a9bf6c579b5
Merge: 95a489f a22303c
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Wed Aug 24 12:21:02 2016 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=a22303ce00367add653f0b87d8e2d301bb15e9f9
Author: Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
Date:   Wed Aug 24 12:14:28 2016 +0200

    Fix bug #3515: Ctrl-Shift-X opens multiple external editors

    This a known GTK+ bug (passing keypresses of disabled menus) or
    a mising feature (not providing a way to disable also keypresses).

    See https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=656158

--- Comment #5 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
Just made a quick test with the embedded editor I use, which made me think it
was fixed. Trying with others it does indeed reproduce.

It's a GTK+ bug, but it's workarounded now by ignoring the callback while
editor still open.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 24 12:56:27 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 10:56:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3678] Segfault when trying to add new account
In-Reply-To: <bug-3678-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3678-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3678-595-pGFQYwvKgb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3678

flo.xfce at gmx-topmail.de changed:

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         Resolution|INVALID                     |---

--- Comment #3 from flo.xfce at gmx-topmail.de ---
I am reopening this.
Gtk is NOT the problem, claws is. I tried again with debug build of glib,gtk2
and claws and now I am getting criticals, but no segfault, and I can use the
account preferences. I guess my inital assumption that is has something to do
with the way I configured gtk is wrong, instead the stock gtk package checks
some assertions instead of segaulting directly.
Again - this is a claws bug: You are dereferencing null pointers. You are lucky
that gtk will, in most cases, throw a critical but keep running. But you cannot
assume that this will always be the case.
I found two occurences in the claws code where null pointers are derefed, I
will attach a patch soon.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 24 13:16:47 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 11:16:47 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3678] Segfault when trying to add new account
In-Reply-To: <bug-3678-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3678-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3678-595-ueBhoJQqiQ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3678

--- Comment #4 from flo.xfce at gmx-topmail.de ---
Created attachment 1679
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patch to avoid the observed criticals

Here is a patch which avoids dereferencing null pointers where I could observe
them.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 24 14:04:35 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 12:04:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3678] Segfault when trying to add new account
In-Reply-To: <bug-3678-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3678-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3678-595-QgJVlaCDWj@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3678

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|REOPENED                    |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #5 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2016-08-24 14:00:02.872365080 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=8e82531719f7d1beb793cce4b73a201c33befe3b
Merge: 3a162b3 6298f43
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Wed Aug 24 14:00:02 2016 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=6298f434d40a5becd305eb3dba447b4888ef8327
Author: Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Wed Aug 24 13:52:23 2016 +0200

    Handle password loading more safely in prefs_account.c

    Inspired by patch in bug #3678.

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=61b7a029bb2089eeb80e3bafbf944266c6a6c046
Author: Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Wed Aug 24 13:39:33 2016 +0200

    Do a basic check for widget validity in CLAWS_SET_TIP().

    Inspired by patch in bug #3678.

--- Comment #6 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2016-08-24 14:00:02.872365080 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=8e82531719f7d1beb793cce4b73a201c33befe3b
Merge: 3a162b3 6298f43
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Wed Aug 24 14:00:02 2016 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=6298f434d40a5becd305eb3dba447b4888ef8327
Author: Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Wed Aug 24 13:52:23 2016 +0200

    Handle password loading more safely in prefs_account.c

    Inspired by patch in bug #3678.

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=61b7a029bb2089eeb80e3bafbf944266c6a6c046
Author: Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Wed Aug 24 13:39:33 2016 +0200

    Do a basic check for widget validity in CLAWS_SET_TIP().

    Inspired by patch in bug #3678.

--- Comment #7 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Thanks for tracking these down. I have fixed both issues in git now, albeit a
bit differently than what your patch does.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 24 23:45:48 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 21:45:48 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3680] New: GnuTLS support broken after recent commits
Message-ID: <bug-3680-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3680

            Bug ID: 3680
           Summary: GnuTLS support broken after recent commits
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: critical
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: glitsj16 at gmail.com

Recent commits

    * 
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commit;h=61bced3dfe1b5bfcfa512fcc5e0c35fd163d8ac0
    *
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commit;h=b88c772b96c2c0cce11fbf1012806bd11d6b1452

seem to have broken SSL/TLS support. Seeing the below both on Arch Linux and
Ubuntu 16.04, using claws-mail build from git. Reverting the above commits
brings things back to 'normal'.

$ lsb_release -d
Description:    Arch Linux

$ pacman -Qi claws-mail-git | grep Version
Version         : 3.14.0.r29.g6298f43-1

$ pacman -Qi gnutls | grep Version
Version         : 3.4.14-1

$ claws-mail

** (claws-mail:28114): WARNING **: SSL connection failed (No or insufficient
priorities were set.)

** (claws-mail:28114): WARNING **: can't initialize SSL.

** (claws-mail:28114): WARNING **: [22:22:50] SSL handshake failed

** (claws-mail:28114): WARNING **: SSL connection failed (No or insufficient
priorities were set.)

** (claws-mail:28114): WARNING **: couldn't start TLS session.

** (claws-mail:28114): WARNING **: [22:23:00] Socket error.


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Aug 25 00:22:35 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 22:22:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3680] GnuTLS support broken after recent commits
In-Reply-To: <bug-3680-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3680-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3680-595-oQ1D2h4APV@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3680

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Yep, we're aware of it since this afternoon. :) I'm just wondering how to fix
it - for new enough GnuTLS we should either set the "NORMAL" priority string
explicitly, or use gnutls_set_default_priority(), which currently has the same
effect, but seems to be deprecated, and its default string might change in the
future. I'm leaning towards the first option, more opinions are welcome.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Aug 25 08:01:46 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 06:01:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3680] GnuTLS support broken after recent commits
In-Reply-To: <bug-3680-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3680-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3680-595-pdfXIRJ97F@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3680

--- Comment #2 from Michael Rasmussen <mir at datanom.net> ---
Just rebuild claws on latest Debian Unstable. No problems.

Which version of gnutls are we talking about?

$ dpkg -s gnutls-bin
Package: gnutls-bin
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: net
Installed-Size: 925
Maintainer: Debian GnuTLS Maintainers
<pkg-gnutls-maint at lists.alioth.debian.org>
Architecture: amd64
Multi-Arch: foreign
Source: gnutls28
Version: 3.5.3-3

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Aug 25 10:48:57 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 08:48:57 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3680] GnuTLS support broken after recent commits
In-Reply-To: <bug-3680-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3680-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3680-595-ZnPC58ym9W@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3680

--- Comment #3 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2016-08-25 10:48:02.662783460 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=07303ccf22cb0f7ed10168f0b7d2a544490a4b1c
Merge: 8e82531 d6d4958
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Thu Aug 25 10:48:02 2016 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=d6d495869a719e44a11785e38b8deed8ad09ab96
Author: Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Thu Aug 25 10:46:34 2016 +0200

    Always set GnuTLS priority string.

    Closes bug #3680.

--- Comment #4 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
GnuTLS version doesn't seem to matter, I can reproduce it also with 3.5.3 on
*some* servers. I just pushed a commit that sets "NORMAL" priority string for
GnuTLS >= 3.4.0.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Aug 25 10:49:09 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 08:49:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3680] GnuTLS support broken after recent commits
In-Reply-To: <bug-3680-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3680-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3680-595-Bx9oRNSRzR@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3680

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From dave at howorth.org.uk  Thu Aug 25 23:38:38 2016
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 22:38:38 +0100
Subject: [Users] moving from evolution
Message-ID: <20160825223838.34e0ce7c@acer-suse.lan>

Hi,

First post, so apologies if I'm dumb ...

I have been using evolution (a rather old 2.30.1.2) but have decided to
move to claws on a new machine (openSUSE Leap 42.1, Claws 3.12.0).

I'm trying to export my addressbook from evolution and import it to
claws, but not having much success. I 'exported' from evolution using
'Save Address Book as vCard. I tried to import it using the
vcard2xml.py tool listed on the claws site.

The first time I ran the tool, python complained about an encoding
problem (copyright symbol) that seems to be over a decade old. The
second time I ran it (having set the encoding) it complained that it
can't find .claws-mail/addrbook--index.xml but AIUI the program should
be transferring the vCard data to an output file that I subsequently
import into claws, so why is it looking for claws files at all?

Rather than try to understand the program I thought I'd ask here first
since it appears to have a ten year old showstopper on line 4!

What's the best way to move an evolution addressbook to claws?

Cheers, Dave


From gour at atmarama.com  Fri Aug 26 00:15:25 2016
From: gour at atmarama.com (Gour)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 00:15:25 +0200
Subject: [Users] moving from evolution
References: <20160825223838.34e0ce7c@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20160826001525.279b7c80@atmarama.dtdns.net>

On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 22:38:38 +0100 Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk>
wrote:

> What's the best way to move an evolution addressbook to claws?

On the phone I use DAVDroid which syncs with my own instance of ownCloud
which can import Evolution's addressbook exported to vCard.

Then I use vdirsyncer (https://github.com/pimutils/vdirsyncer) to sync
with the desktop where khard https://github.com/scheibler/khard/ is used
to modify entries.

I still have two setups for vdirsyncer, but since recent time vdirsyncer
got support for singlefile storage back-end, so you can point your
Claws' addressbook to the *.vcf created by vdirsyncer and used by khard.


Sincerely,
Gour

p.s. I promised to write blog post and/or FAQ entry showing how to use
calendars/addressbooks in Claws with external world and having ability
to sync with the Android phones...but still fighting to find the time.

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From gour at atmarama.com  Fri Aug 26 08:51:22 2016
From: gour at atmarama.com (Gour)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 08:51:22 +0200
Subject: [Users] moving from evolution
References: <20160825223838.34e0ce7c@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20160826085122.5a31a1d2@atmarama.dtdns.net>

On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 22:38:38 +0100
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:

> I'm trying to export my addressbook from evolution and import it to
> claws, but not having much success. I 'exported' from evolution using
> 'Save Address Book as vCard. I tried to import it using the
> vcard2xml.py tool listed on the claws site.

I apologize for describing 'dynamic' setup...but you can just got to
Tools --> Address book and then Book --> New vCard.

My setup is to allow changing and syncing entries with 'external world'.


Sincerely,
Gour

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From dave at howorth.org.uk  Fri Aug 26 09:19:04 2016
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 08:19:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] moving from evolution
In-Reply-To: <20160826085122.5a31a1d2@atmarama.dtdns.net>
References: <20160825223838.34e0ce7c@acer-suse.lan>
 <20160826085122.5a31a1d2@atmarama.dtdns.net>
Message-ID: <20160826081904.621a9839@acer-suse.lan>

On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 08:51:22 +0200
Gour <gour at atmarama.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 22:38:38 +0100
> Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > I'm trying to export my addressbook from evolution and import it to
> > claws, but not having much success. I 'exported' from evolution
> > using 'Save Address Book as vCard. I tried to import it using the
> > vcard2xml.py tool listed on the claws site.
> 
> I apologize for describing 'dynamic' setup...but you can just got to
> Tools --> Address book and then Book --> New vCard.

Thanks, that seems to have worked.
Cheers, Dave

> My setup is to allow changing and syncing entries with 'external
> world'.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> Gour
> 



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Aug 26 09:20:26 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 08:20:26 +0100
Subject: [Users] moving from evolution
In-Reply-To: <20160825223838.34e0ce7c@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20160825223838.34e0ce7c@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20160826082026.6cb7251d@kujata>

On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 22:38:38 +0100
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote: 

> The first time I ran the tool, python complained about an encoding
> problem (copyright symbol) that seems to be over a decade old. The
> second time I ran it (having set the encoding) it complained that it
> can't find .claws-mail/addrbook--index.xml

Try the attached, slightly modified, version.

with regards

Paul
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From anmeyer at mailbox.org  Sat Aug 27 02:04:23 2016
From: anmeyer at mailbox.org (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 02:04:23 +0200
Subject: [Users] certificate for trusted TLS-connection
Message-ID: <20160827020423.3180c89a@workstation.bitcorner.intern>

Hello!

For a trusted (instead of an anonymous) TLS-connection to a MTA
how do I get a client-certificate?

Regards

  Andreas


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Sat Aug 27 21:12:42 2016
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 20:12:42 +0100
Subject: [Users] certificate for trusted TLS-connection
In-Reply-To: <20160827020423.3180c89a@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
References: <20160827020423.3180c89a@workstation.bitcorner.intern>
Message-ID: <20160827201242.00002104@prost.fenrir.org.uk>

On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 02:04:23 +0200
Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at mailbox.org> wrote:

> Hello!
> 
> For a trusted (instead of an anonymous) TLS-connection to a MTA
> how do I get a client-certificate?
> 

You could look at http://startssl.com they will provide certs for this.

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From kardan at riseup.net  Sun Aug 28 23:18:45 2016
From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan)
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 23:18:45 +0200
Subject: [Users] is there a function to annotate emails?
Message-ID: <20160828231845.7cdbbadb@riseup.net>

Hi,

does claws offer the possiblity to mark text passages and save
those selections with a short note for later?

Tags and markers affect a message as a whole but not parts of it.

Alternatively one could mark the paragraph, press the reply button
(CTRL+r) and send the selection to oneself. Then you see that you
replied to the message, but it seems not possible to access the old
message from the received one.

Copying the text passage to another program also looses the track of
the original. The option to collect quotes inside claws-mail with
the option to jump to the originating thread anytime would make claws
much more useful to me.

Another question: Is it possible to check the quota usage of an account?
I am not aware if every server offers this information.

Thanks for reading and sharing your ideas!
kardan


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Aug 28 23:27:39 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 21:27:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3682] New: some senders moving from http to https for
 remote content; Fancy does not display this
Message-ID: <bug-3682-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3682

            Bug ID: 3682
           Summary: some senders moving from http to https for remote
                    content; Fancy does not display this
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Fancy
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: pf at pfortin.com

I've been seeing various senders changing content from http to https links. 
This results in Fancy not displaying this content.

wireshark shows a connection attempt for each item (port 443):
 > SYN
 < SYN,ACK
 > ACK
 > FIN,ACK
 < FIN,ACK
 > ACK

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Aug 28 23:58:22 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 21:58:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2552] in automatic checking,
 enable the use of different time intervals
In-Reply-To: <bug-2552-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2552-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2552-595-1RfGMqVoQl@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2552

--- Comment #41 from rezso <rezso at rezso.net> ---
Created attachment 1680
  -->
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Updated patch version 5.3

Updated patch v5.3 for CM 3.14.
Any chance to add this feature to CM?

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From myetto1 at nycap.rr.com  Mon Aug 29 00:18:45 2016
From: myetto1 at nycap.rr.com (Michael A. Yetto)
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 18:18:45 -0400
Subject: [Users] is there a function to annotate emails?
In-Reply-To: <20160828231845.7cdbbadb@riseup.net>
References: <20160828231845.7cdbbadb@riseup.net>
Message-ID: <20160828181845.44fe5c57@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>

On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 23:18:45 +0200
kardan <kardan at riseup.net> wrote:
>Copying the text passage to another program also looses the track of
>the original. The option to collect quotes inside claws-mail with
>the option to jump to the originating thread anytime would make claws
>much more useful to me.

I can only speak for myself, but I don't see any utility in this and
would not want to see the increase in resource usage this would entail.

Adding this type of functionality moves programs towards the all things
for all users at all times model.

This is just my opinion, but you're welcome to it.

Mike Yetto
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Aug 29 01:58:53 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 23:58:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3682] some senders moving from http to https for
 remote content; Fancy does not display this
In-Reply-To: <bug-3682-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3682-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3682-595-KBjBKCJk9R@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3682

--- Comment #1 from Salvatore De Paolis <iwkse at claws-mail.org> ---
Hi,
what version do you have of webkit? You can see it in the plugins window. Here
I cannot reproduce your behavior. Also please can you provide off-list a email
copy?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Aug 29 02:06:40 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 00:06:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2552] in automatic checking,
 enable the use of different time intervals
In-Reply-To: <bug-2552-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2552-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2552-595-mt77OHX0iy@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2552

rezso <rezso at rezso.net> changed:

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Aug 29 02:07:37 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 00:07:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2552] in automatic checking,
 enable the use of different time intervals
In-Reply-To: <bug-2552-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2552-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2552-595-Z8nG71zAI5@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2552

--- Comment #42 from rezso <rezso at rezso.net> ---
Created attachment 1681
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Fixed updated patch

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Aug 29 02:38:15 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 00:38:15 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3682] some senders moving from http to https for
 remote content; Fancy does not display this
In-Reply-To: <bug-3682-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3682-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3682-595-cgI1mno2uL@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3682

--- Comment #2 from Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> ---
This plugin renders HTML mail using the WebKit 2.4.10 library.
By default all remote content is blocked. Options can be found in
/Configuration/Preferences/Plugins/Fancy

Version: 3.14.0git2

Will send examples shortly.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Aug 29 05:05:21 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 03:05:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3682] some senders moving from http to https for
 remote content; Fancy does not display this
In-Reply-To: <bug-3682-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3682-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3682-595-tKx9fJZ2PD@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3682

Salvatore De Paolis <iwkse at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #3 from Salvatore De Paolis <iwkse at claws-mail.org> ---
Please check if any misconfiguration, I cannot reproduce it with either version
2.4.9 and 2.4.11

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From silver.bullet at zoho.com  Mon Aug 29 07:14:48 2016
From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 07:14:48 +0200
Subject: [Users] is there a function to annotate emails?
In-Reply-To: <20160828231845.7cdbbadb@riseup.net>
References: <20160828231845.7cdbbadb@riseup.net>
Message-ID: <20160829071448.536dffa9@utnubu>

On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 23:18:45 +0200, kardan wrote:
>Alternatively one could mark the paragraph, press the reply button
>(CTRL+r) and send the selection to oneself. Then you see that you
>replied to the message, but it seems not possible to access the old
>message from the received one.

But vice versa it works. If you click the icon of the original
message, that shows that you replied, it jumps to the replied message
with the selection, even if it's not in the same folder, since it
automatically filters by "inreplyto matchcase". If there are several
replies to the same message, you could sort the filtered messages by
"From", since the mails you want to see are from yourself.

Regards,
Ralf



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Aug 29 10:30:45 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 08:30:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2552] in automatic checking,
 enable the use of different time intervals
In-Reply-To: <bug-2552-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2552-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2552-595-gVZfiBTcm7@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2552

--- Comment #43 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
I'm still of the opinion I made in comment #37 - it's far too convoluted.

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From ricardo at mones.org  Mon Aug 29 11:22:22 2016
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 11:22:22 +0200
Subject: [Users] is there a function to annotate emails?
In-Reply-To: <20160828231845.7cdbbadb@riseup.net>
References: <20160828231845.7cdbbadb@riseup.net>
Message-ID: <20160829092222.GC27292@busgosu.mones.org>

Hi,

On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 11:18:45PM +0200, kardan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> does claws offer the possiblity to mark text passages and save
> those selections with a short note for later?
> 
> Tags and markers affect a message as a whole but not parts of it.
> 
> Alternatively one could mark the paragraph, press the reply button
> (CTRL+r) and send the selection to oneself. Then you see that you
> replied to the message, but it seems not possible to access the old
> message from the received one.
> 
> Copying the text passage to another program also looses the track of
> the original. The option to collect quotes inside claws-mail with
> the option to jump to the originating thread anytime would make claws
> much more useful to me.

Have not tried it, but this one says you can go back to the original
mail which originated the note, so it could be useful to you:

https://github.com/hb/tomboy-claws-mail-addin

> Another question: Is it possible to check the quota usage of an account?
> I am not aware if every server offers this information.

No, and no. Quota is an extension to IMAP4 (see RFC 2087), which is not
supported. But patches to fix http://claws-mail.org/bug/1692 are welcome :-)

regards,
-- 
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  The three principal virtues of a programmer are Laziness, 
  Impatience, and Hubris.                                    man perl

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From linux at karmasailing.uk  Mon Aug 29 12:47:01 2016
From: linux at karmasailing.uk (Bob Williams)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 11:47:01 +0100
Subject: [Users] New mail indicator not working
Message-ID: <20160829114701.1f815fe9@hexagon.home.karmasailing.uk>

I have two IMAP accounts set up. One is with my ISP (Gradwell) and the
other is a Gmail account. The ISP account shows the correct information
in the New, Unread and Total columns in the folder list pane. The Gmail
account only seems to show Unread and Total and does not use the New
column.

Any clues, please?

Bob
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Aug 29 12:53:09 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 11:53:09 +0100
Subject: [Users] New mail indicator not working
In-Reply-To: <20160829114701.1f815fe9@hexagon.home.karmasailing.uk>
References: <20160829114701.1f815fe9@hexagon.home.karmasailing.uk>
Message-ID: <20160829115309.5b8ed8cf@kujata>

On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 11:47:01 +0100
Bob Williams <linux at karmasailing.uk> wrote: 

> The Gmail
> account only seems to show Unread and Total and does not use the New
> column.
> 
> Any clues, please?

gmail doesn't know what a 'new' message is, only 'read' and 'unread'.
This is a gmail feature :)

with regards

Paul


From ricardo at mones.org  Mon Aug 29 13:05:01 2016
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 13:05:01 +0200
Subject: [Users] New mail indicator not working
In-Reply-To: <20160829114701.1f815fe9@hexagon.home.karmasailing.uk>
References: <20160829114701.1f815fe9@hexagon.home.karmasailing.uk>
Message-ID: <20160829110501.GA19669@busgosu.mones.org>

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 11:47:01AM +0100, Bob Williams wrote:
> I have two IMAP accounts set up. One is with my ISP (Gradwell) and the
> other is a Gmail account. The ISP account shows the correct information
> in the New, Unread and Total columns in the folder list pane. The Gmail
> account only seems to show Unread and Total and does not use the New
> column.
> 
> Any clues, please?

http://claws-mail.org/bug/1492

HTH,
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  ~
  Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.          Carl Sagan

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From linux at karmasailing.uk  Mon Aug 29 13:16:28 2016
From: linux at karmasailing.uk (Bob Williams)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 12:16:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] New mail indicator not working
In-Reply-To: <20160829110501.GA19669@busgosu.mones.org>
References: <20160829114701.1f815fe9@hexagon.home.karmasailing.uk>
 <20160829110501.GA19669@busgosu.mones.org>
Message-ID: <20160829121628.463f9bc5@hexagon.home.karmasailing.uk>

On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 13:05:01 +0200
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 11:47:01AM +0100, Bob Williams wrote:
> > I have two IMAP accounts set up. One is with my ISP (Gradwell) and
> > the other is a Gmail account. The ISP account shows the correct
> > information in the New, Unread and Total columns in the folder list
> > pane. The Gmail account only seems to show Unread and Total and
> > does not use the New column.
> > 
> > Any clues, please?
> 
> http://claws-mail.org/bug/1492
> 
> HTH,

Thank you. Hmm, "This is an invalid and closed bug, please, move
discussions into the mailing list."

Well, here I am. ;-)

Bob
-- 
Bob Williams
   System:  Linux 4.1.20-11-default
   Distro:  openSUSE 42.1 (x86_64)
   Desktop: KDE Frameworks: 5.21.0, Qt: 5.5.1 and Plasma: 
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From linux at karmasailing.uk  Mon Aug 29 13:18:01 2016
From: linux at karmasailing.uk (Bob Williams)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 12:18:01 +0100
Subject: [Users] New mail indicator not working
In-Reply-To: <20160829115309.5b8ed8cf@kujata>
References: <20160829114701.1f815fe9@hexagon.home.karmasailing.uk>
 <20160829115309.5b8ed8cf@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160829121801.60558140@hexagon.home.karmasailing.uk>

On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 11:53:09 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 11:47:01 +0100
> Bob Williams <linux at karmasailing.uk> wrote: 
> 
> > The Gmail
> > account only seems to show Unread and Total and does not use the New
> > column.
> > 
> > Any clues, please?
> 
> gmail doesn't know what a 'new' message is, only 'read' and 'unread'.
> This is a gmail feature :)
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul

Thanks, Paul.

Bob
-- 
Bob Williams
   System:  Linux 4.1.20-11-default
   Distro:  openSUSE 42.1 (x86_64)
   Desktop: KDE Frameworks: 5.21.0, Qt: 5.5.1 and Plasma: 


From kardan at riseup.net  Mon Aug 29 21:03:19 2016
From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 21:03:19 +0200
Subject: [Users] is there a function to annotate emails?
In-Reply-To: <20160829092222.GC27292@busgosu.mones.org>
References: <20160828231845.7cdbbadb@riseup.net>
 <20160829092222.GC27292@busgosu.mones.org>
Message-ID: <20160829210319.63b6abae@riseup.net>

Am Mon, 29 Aug 2016 11:22:22 +0200
schrieb Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>:

> Hi,
> 
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 11:18:45PM +0200, kardan wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > does claws offer the possiblity to mark text passages and save
> > those selections with a short note for later?
> 
> Have not tried it, but this one says you can go back to the original
> mail which originated the note, so it could be useful to you:
> 
> https://github.com/hb/tomboy-claws-mail-addin

Thanks, that helps. Especially useful in combination with

https://github.com/cweiske/grauphel - tomboy owncloud synchronization

Have a nice day,
kardan





From codejodler at gmx.ch  Tue Aug 30 00:22:42 2016
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 00:22:42 +0200
Subject: [Users] is there a function to annotate emails?
In-Reply-To: <20160828181845.44fe5c57@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
References: <20160828231845.7cdbbadb@riseup.net>
 <20160828181845.44fe5c57@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
Message-ID: <20160830002242.3ba7398c@mirrors.kernel.org>

Mike,

> Adding this type of functionality moves programs towards the all things
> for all users at all times model.

Yes, and apparently you are KISS here. But after so many years using mail and messengers, i finally started to think, that's perhaps what a communication tool nowadays should be: A general communication tool, including anything you might wish for ... 

It's totally fine and for the best, if claws is not it; but then, plugins are the solution. Luckily, claws gots them :D



From myetto1 at nycap.rr.com  Tue Aug 30 01:12:24 2016
From: myetto1 at nycap.rr.com (Michael A. Yetto)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 19:12:24 -0400
Subject: [Users] is there a function to annotate emails?
In-Reply-To: <20160830002242.3ba7398c@mirrors.kernel.org>
References: <20160828231845.7cdbbadb@riseup.net>
 <20160828181845.44fe5c57@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>
 <20160830002242.3ba7398c@mirrors.kernel.org>
Message-ID: <20160829191224.76bc5291@braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>

On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 00:22:42 +0200
Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote:

>Mike,
>
>> Adding this type of functionality moves programs towards the all
>> things for all users at all times model.  
>
>Yes, and apparently you are KISS here. But after so many years using
>mail and messengers, i finally started to think, that's perhaps what a
>communication tool nowadays should be: A general communication tool,
>including anything you might wish for ... 
>

All to often people will sent long text messages when an email is
called for, or start a long conversation that would be better served by
a phone call rather than an asynchronous medium such as text, or a
quick phone call just saying, "Can't talk now, but..." rather than
anything else, or ...

I like the philosophy of do one thing well then pass it on to the next
step. However, this is close to just adding a plugin you want and leave
off the bloat-ware (defined as anything I don't want.)

>It's totally fine and for the best, if claws is not it; but then,
>plugins are the solution. Luckily, claws gots them :D
>

Mike
-- 
"Some people speak as if we were not justified in rejecting a
theological doctrine unless we can prove it false. But the burden of
proof does not lie upon the rejecter.... If you were told that in a
certain planet revolving around Sirius there is a race of donkeys who
speak the English language and spend their time in discussing eugenics,
you could not disprove the statement, but would it, on that account,
have any claim to be believed? Some minds would be prepared to accept
it, if it were reiterated often enough, through the potent force of
suggestion."
 - Bertrand Russell
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From kardan at riseup.net  Tue Aug 30 07:52:09 2016
From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 07:52:09 +0200
Subject: [Users] Mailbox types changed from IMAP to POP
Message-ID: <20160830075209.6606f33c@riseup.net>

Version: 3.14.0 (debian stretch)

Hi,

today the type of all my mailbox accounts suddenly changed from IMAP to
POP, although I did not change any settings.

I became aware of it because an alert sign in the left lower corner
appeared. Clicking on the log revealed connection errors because
plaintext POP authentication without SSL was refused by the server.
Which is alright. Oddly I am not using POP at all.

Instantly I jumped to account settings because usually I don't setup
neither POP accounts nor non-SSL connections. All account types had
changed to POP, with SSL disabled for receiving connections and the
option to delete messages older than 7 days on receiving enabled. STMP
settings were unchanged.

The type of all accounts was set to 'protocol=0' in accountrc.
accountrc and accountrc.bak were identical. Restoring my backup
confirmed that IMAP was used before ('protocol=3').

Did that already happen to anybody else? Searching for 'account type',
'protocol changed' and 'accountrc' didn't find related (closed) bugs.

Shortly before the program had crashed (claws just disappeared in the
background). Maybe this is related. It would mean that the account
settings had been overwritten during the crash. Would that be possible?

The relevant partition ran out of space several times recently but I
see no reason this could be related. Other than that I have no idea,
how to reproduce this.

Thanks for your help,
kardan


From list at eworm.de  Tue Aug 30 08:14:47 2016
From: list at eworm.de (Christian Hesse)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 08:14:47 +0200
Subject: [Users] Mailbox types changed from IMAP to POP
In-Reply-To: <20160830075209.6606f33c@riseup.net>
References: <20160830075209.6606f33c@riseup.net>
Message-ID: <20160830081447.7aa8fb49@leda.localdomain>

kardan <kardan at riseup.net> on Tue, 2016/08/30 07:52:
> Version: 3.14.0 (debian stretch)
> 
> Hi,
> 
> today the type of all my mailbox accounts suddenly changed from IMAP to
> POP, although I did not change any settings.
> 
> I became aware of it because an alert sign in the left lower corner
> appeared. Clicking on the log revealed connection errors because
> plaintext POP authentication without SSL was refused by the server.
> Which is alright. Oddly I am not using POP at all.
> 
> Instantly I jumped to account settings because usually I don't setup
> neither POP accounts nor non-SSL connections. All account types had
> changed to POP, with SSL disabled for receiving connections and the
> option to delete messages older than 7 days on receiving enabled. STMP
> settings were unchanged.
> 
> The type of all accounts was set to 'protocol=0' in accountrc.
> accountrc and accountrc.bak were identical. Restoring my backup
> confirmed that IMAP was used before ('protocol=3').
> 
> Did that already happen to anybody else? Searching for 'account type',
> 'protocol changed' and 'accountrc' didn't find related (closed) bugs.
> 
> Shortly before the program had crashed (claws just disappeared in the
> background). Maybe this is related. It would mean that the account
> settings had been overwritten during the crash. Would that be possible?
> 
> The relevant partition ran out of space several times recently but I
> see no reason this could be related. Other than that I have no idea,
> how to reproduce this.

I suppose this is an issue with config versioning. For any reason CM updated
your accounts, but did not update the main configuration file clawsrc.
Then the accounts were upgraded again, breaking the settings.
-- 
main(a){char*c=/*    Schoene Gruesse                         */"B?IJj;MEH"
"CX:;",b;for(a/*    Best regards             my address:    */=0;b=c[a++];)
putchar(b-1/(/*    Chris            cc -ox -xc - && ./x    */b/42*2-3)*42);}
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 30 09:28:27 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 07:28:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3335] Printing Multiple Documents Simultaneously
In-Reply-To: <bug-3335-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3335-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3335-595-XedMmxEnWK@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3335

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Hardware|PC                          |All
                 OS|FreeBSD                     |All

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
There doesn't seem to be any straightforward way to batch print in GTK+ - each
GtkPrintOperation has to be executed via gtk_print_operation_run(), which
always displays the dialog. Even GTK3 doesn't have this added.

All the pieces seem to be there - you can store and restore settings, as well
as other parameters, to a different GtkPrintOperation. Just the option to skip
each operation's print dialog is missing.

The only way I can think of to work around this would be to stuff content of
all e-mails into one "document", and print that, but that approach has issues
of its own.

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 30 10:06:34 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 08:06:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3027] Claws segfaults when closing LDAP-enabled
	address book
In-Reply-To: <bug-3027-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3027-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3027-595-3UsqbxBet2@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3027

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2016-08-30 10:04:02.465578020 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=bd5a2f11731a865d3db59786453bcf4db33a4852
Merge: 21d9e5d 2032c91
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Tue Aug 30 10:04:01 2016 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=2032c913a77a1c55527152af1244a3b8cfda9a6f
Author: Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Tue Aug 30 10:03:06 2016 +0200

    Fix NULL pointer dereference in LDAP lookup code.

    Fixes bug #3027.

--- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
A long-overdue fix. :)

By the way, Claws Mail is not trying to write into LDAP here, all this code is
doing is modifying strings in local memory, during config save to local
addressbook XML.

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From codejodler at gmx.ch  Tue Aug 30 14:37:05 2016
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 14:37:05 +0200
Subject: [Users] Endless timeout then suddenly anything ok
Message-ID: <20160830143705.3a63cdaf@mirrors.kernel.org>

Hello, here's another question about weird things happening :D

Whenever i POP my mailbox from posteo.de for the first time after boot, claws is waiting for reply like forever and it ends up with timeout, no matter how i set the limit. When i get the timeout popup, i click OK then POP again and this time, mails download immediately.

This was never happening a few months ago, it's rather new.

The account settings are  "Use Start-TLS" and POP - Protocol "Autoconfigure". Anything else is default.

On the server side, they have some special security / encryption stuff but it's all disabled for that mailbox.

They also have “Certification Authority Authorization (CAA)” and “HTTP Public Key Pinning (HPKP)” but i don't see how this should be related. There is no issue with certificates since long now.

Any ideas how i can 'debug' this incident ?


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Aug 30 14:47:04 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 13:47:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] Endless timeout then suddenly anything ok
In-Reply-To: <20160830143705.3a63cdaf@mirrors.kernel.org>
References: <20160830143705.3a63cdaf@mirrors.kernel.org>
Message-ID: <20160830134704.68e77c3b@kujata>

On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 14:37:05 +0200
Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote: 

> Any ideas how i can 'debug' this incident ?

First, see /Tools/Network Log

with regards

Paul


From andrej at kacian.sk  Tue Aug 30 14:51:21 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 14:51:21 +0200
Subject: [Users] Mailbox types changed from IMAP to POP
In-Reply-To: <20160830081447.7aa8fb49@leda.localdomain>
References: <20160830075209.6606f33c@riseup.net>
 <20160830081447.7aa8fb49@leda.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20160830145121.224b3c28@hiker>

On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 08:14:47 +0200
Christian Hesse <list at eworm.de> wrote:

> I suppose this is an issue with config versioning. For any reason CM
> updated your accounts, but did not update the main configuration file
> clawsrc. Then the accounts were upgraded again, breaking the settings.

I suspect this was the case - you ran out of disk space, and Claws Mail
was unable to write out some of the config files. There's not much we
can do in this case - we could attempt to revert all the
unsuccessfully-written files to previously saved version, but in
situation with zero free disk space, even that operation is likely to
fail, either partially or completely.

IMO, best thing an application can do in this situation is to display
an error dialog to the user, and _attempt_ to revert affected config
files.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej
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From codejodler at gmx.ch  Tue Aug 30 15:44:27 2016
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 15:44:27 +0200
Subject: [Users] Endless timeout then suddenly anything ok
In-Reply-To: <20160830134704.68e77c3b@kujata>
References: <20160830143705.3a63cdaf@mirrors.kernel.org>
 <20160830134704.68e77c3b@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160830154427.6ac92e7c@mirrors.kernel.org>

Paul,

Yes, i forgot to tell. Of course this is the first thing i'm always doing.

This is all it has:

* Account 'MAIN': Connecting to POP3 server: posteo.de:110...
** Session timed out. You may be able to recover by increasing the timeout value in Preferences/Other/Miscellaneous.


From colin at colino.net  Tue Aug 30 16:30:21 2016
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 16:30:21 +0200
Subject: [Users] Mailbox types changed from IMAP to POP
In-Reply-To: <20160830145121.224b3c28@hiker>
References: <20160830075209.6606f33c@riseup.net>
 <20160830081447.7aa8fb49@leda.localdomain>
 <20160830145121.224b3c28@hiker>
Message-ID: <20160830163021.3d5b1ac2@colin.i-run.lau>

On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 14:51:21 +0200, Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk>
wrote:

> you ran out of disk space, and Claws Mail
> was unable to write out some of the config files. There's not much we
> can do in this case - we could attempt to revert all the
> unsuccessfully-written files to previously saved version, but in
> situation with zero free disk space, even that operation is likely to
> fail, either partially or completely.

We don't do that, we write new configuration files separately, and if
it worked, we rename them to overwrite the old ones.

This shouldn't happen on disk full, as rename() *should* be atomic.
-- 
Colin


From andrej at kacian.sk  Tue Aug 30 18:47:29 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 18:47:29 +0200
Subject: [Users] Mailbox types changed from IMAP to POP
In-Reply-To: <20160830163021.3d5b1ac2@colin.i-run.lau>
References: <20160830075209.6606f33c@riseup.net>
 <20160830081447.7aa8fb49@leda.localdomain>
 <20160830145121.224b3c28@hiker>
 <20160830163021.3d5b1ac2@colin.i-run.lau>
Message-ID: <20160830184729.662529d7@penny>

On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 16:30:21 +0200
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 14:51:21 +0200, Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk>
> wrote:
> 
> > you ran out of disk space, and Claws Mail
> > was unable to write out some of the config files. There's not much we
> > can do in this case - we could attempt to revert all the
> > unsuccessfully-written files to previously saved version, but in
> > situation with zero free disk space, even that operation is likely to
> > fail, either partially or completely.  
> 
> We don't do that, we write new configuration files separately, and if
> it worked, we rename them to overwrite the old ones.
> 
> This shouldn't happen on disk full, as rename() *should* be atomic.

Yes, that is true, and it works well for individual files. But now we
have to consider all of them together. That means after a
config_version upgrade, we need to save them all, and if writing to any
of them fails, we have to revert that file, plus all of those already
written to - and not touch any of the yet-unwritten-to files. That
should still be atomic, but again, *should*.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From kardan at riseup.net  Tue Aug 30 20:55:23 2016
From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 20:55:23 +0200
Subject: [Users] Mailbox types changed from IMAP to POP
In-Reply-To: <20160830184729.662529d7@penny>
References: <20160830075209.6606f33c@riseup.net>
 <20160830081447.7aa8fb49@leda.localdomain>
 <20160830145121.224b3c28@hiker>
 <20160830163021.3d5b1ac2@colin.i-run.lau>
 <20160830184729.662529d7@penny>
Message-ID: <20160830205523.373f041c@riseup.net>

Am Tue, 30 Aug 2016 18:47:29 +0200
schrieb Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk>:

> On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 16:30:21 +0200
> Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 14:51:21 +0200, Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk>
> > wrote:
> >   
> > > you ran out of disk space, and Claws Mail
> > > was unable to write out some of the config files. There's not
> > > much we can do in this case - we could attempt to revert all the
> > > unsuccessfully-written files to previously saved version, but in
> > > situation with zero free disk space, even that operation is
> > > likely to fail, either partially or completely.    
> > 
> > We don't do that, we write new configuration files separately, and
> > if it worked, we rename them to overwrite the old ones.
> > 
> > This shouldn't happen on disk full, as rename() *should* be
> > atomic.  
> 
> Yes, that is true, and it works well for individual files. But now we
> have to consider all of them together. That means after a
> config_version upgrade, we need to save them all, and if writing to
> any of them fails, we have to revert that file, plus all of those
> already written to - and not touch any of the yet-unwritten-to files.
> That should still be atomic, but again, *should*.,

That seems reasonable to me. Thanks for alle the explanations!

The best from an user perspective would be a message that the disk is
full and not to crash later (like Tomboy does).

Another related issue are blank or truncated messages in the message
view on diskfull. Usually I am bored by the dialogues asking for a
connection turning to offline mode but in this case I dialogue would
make a lot of sense to make it clear, that there is disk space problem
and no connection error.

best,
Kardan


From dave at howorth.org.uk  Tue Aug 30 22:14:44 2016
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 21:14:44 +0100
Subject: [Users] broken links in emails
Message-ID: <20160830211444.3a2d7231@acer-suse.lan>

Hello,

I receive some emails that include hypertext links. One of them doesn't
work. The link in the mail as received is, for example:

http://planningpages.midsuffolk.gov.uk/online-applications/centralDistribution.do?caseType=Application&keyVal=_MSUFF_DCAPR_109532

but when I click on it to open it, the link that is opened is:

http://planningpages.midsuffolk.gov.uk/online-applications/centralDistribution.do?caseType=Application\\&keyVal=_MSUFF_DCAPR_109532

It appears that claws is rewriting the URL (two added backslashes) and
that causes the request to fail with an error page.

Does anybdoy recognize this problem?

Cheers, Dave

PS I am using Firefox 48.0 (openSUSE - 42.1)


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Tue Aug 30 22:20:56 2016
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 21:20:56 +0100
Subject: [Users] broken links in emails
In-Reply-To: <20160830211444.3a2d7231@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20160830211444.3a2d7231@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20160830212056.0502d1e4@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 21:14:44 +0100
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:

Hello Dave,

>http://planningpages.midsuffolk.gov.uk/online-applications/centralDistribution.do?caseType=Application&keyVal=_MSUFF_DCAPR_109532

That link works fine from here.

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        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
This disease is catching
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From dave at howorth.org.uk  Tue Aug 30 22:39:18 2016
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 21:39:18 +0100
Subject: [Users] broken links in emails
In-Reply-To: <20160830212056.0502d1e4@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20160830211444.3a2d7231@acer-suse.lan>
 <20160830212056.0502d1e4@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20160830213918.6f18d38d@acer-suse.lan>

On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 21:20:56 +0100
Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 21:14:44 +0100
> Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hello Dave,
> 
> >http://planningpages.midsuffolk.gov.uk/online-applications/centralDistribution.do?caseType=Application&keyVal=_MSUFF_DCAPR_109532
> 
> That link works fine from here.
 
That's great for you. Any idea on why it doesn't work here?

Oh, Claws Mail version 3.12.0

Cheers, Dave


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Tue Aug 30 23:33:51 2016
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 22:33:51 +0100
Subject: [Users] broken links in emails
In-Reply-To: <20160830213918.6f18d38d@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20160830211444.3a2d7231@acer-suse.lan>
 <20160830212056.0502d1e4@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20160830213918.6f18d38d@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20160830223351.00003a20@prost.fenrir.org.uk>

On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 21:39:18 +0100
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 21:20:56 +0100
> Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 21:14:44 +0100
> > Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello Dave,
> >   
> > >http://planningpages.midsuffolk.gov.uk/online-applications/centralDistribution.do?caseType=Application&keyVal=_MSUFF_DCAPR_109532  
> > 
> > That link works fine from here.  
>  
> That's great for you. Any idea on why it doesn't work here?
> 
> Oh, Claws Mail version 3.12.0

Works perfectly for me too, both Brad and I are using Claws 3.14.0 or a
later git version.

I think it will work if you upgrade.

-- 

Brian




From dustbiz at gmail.com  Wed Aug 31 05:28:50 2016
From: dustbiz at gmail.com (Dustin)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 09:28:50 +0600
Subject: [Users] Moving /.claws-mail Directory
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2338.1472588508.25613.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
References: <mailman.2338.1472588508.25613.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
Message-ID: <dfb3feff-b1ff-4d37-7ed3-d060b79182a5@gmail.com>

I'm looking for the best way to move the /.claws-mail directory from its 
default location to another location.

Context:
* Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
* Claws Mail (CM) 3.11.1
* I don't have the skills to edit code, but am fine with editing 
config/system files, etc. as necessary.

Related Background:
* A web search helped me figure out one way to move the location of my 
message store, and just recently noticed another way mentioned in this 
list's archives. Unless I'm doing something wrong, using similar 
approaches with the address book (highest priority of the /.claws-mail 
dir's contents) doesn't work.
* I just recently subscribed to this list and have started working my 
way through the archives (from newest to oldest) to see if a solution 
has already been mentioned. Have also tried some web searches that have 
not been successful.

Details:
* My minimum end-goal is to find a way to move the address book 
directory. My maximum end-goal is to move the whole /.claws-mail directory.
* My reasons are: a) to have sensitive info like messages and contact 
info stored w/in an encrypted file container (i.e. Truecrypt or 
similar); b) to keep user-generated data on a separate partition/disk 
than my system disk; and c) to simplify my frequent backups of CM (I'm 
currently running two actions -- one for my message store and one for 
the /.claws-mail dir, whereas if I'm successful I should be able to do 
this in only one action.).

Possible Solutions:
* Something similar to moving message store? I haven't been successful 
with this, as noted above, perhaps because the edits would need to be 
adjusted in the actual code.
* Move the /.claws-mail dir and put a link with the same name in the 
default location. (Idea from these archives that I haven't tried yet.) 
This seems like it should work, although one question I had is whether 
any annoyances/damage would be caused if this link was activated (i.e. 
by starting CM) w/o the directory it points to being available (i.e. 
encrypted container isn't open), or whether this would basically be a 
non-event, perhaps throwing an error or two. If you have a quick answer 
on this, great; but I can also figure it out by testing, I assume.
* Newer version of CM? (I haven't looked through the various versions' 
release notes yet.)
* An edit/addition to /.claws-mail/clawsrc ? (No relevant settings show 
in the version of clawsker I have.)

I'm going to keep going through the archives as I have time, but I 
thought I'd go ahead and post this message in case it saves me some time.

And, for the hard-working under-appreciated devs ( :) )  : If there 
isn't a good solution for this other than editing code, would this be a 
feature that would have a chance of being implemented if I take the time 
to submit a request?

Thanks for any help/ideas you can provide. Let me know if you have 
specific Qs or need more info.


From andrej at kacian.sk  Wed Aug 31 09:00:49 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 09:00:49 +0200
Subject: [Users] Moving /.claws-mail Directory
In-Reply-To: <dfb3feff-b1ff-4d37-7ed3-d060b79182a5@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.2338.1472588508.25613.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
 <dfb3feff-b1ff-4d37-7ed3-d060b79182a5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20160831090049.654752b0@hiker>

On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 09:28:50 +0600
Dustin <dustbiz at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm looking for the best way to move the /.claws-mail directory from
> its default location to another location.

Hi, just move it to wherever you want, and use claws-mail's
--alternate-config-dir option to point the application to the new
location.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 31 09:32:09 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 08:32:09 +0100
Subject: [Users] broken links in emails
In-Reply-To: <20160830211444.3a2d7231@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20160830211444.3a2d7231@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20160831083209.7954d523@kujata>

On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 21:14:44 +0100
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote: 

> I receive some emails that include hypertext links. One of them
> doesn't work. The link in the mail as received is, for example:
> 
> http://planningpages.midsuffolk.gov.uk/online-applications/centralDistribution.do?caseType=Application&keyVal=_MSUFF_DCAPR_109532
> 
> but when I click on it to open it, the link that is opened is:
> 
> http://planningpages.midsuffolk.gov.uk/online-applications/centralDistribution.do?caseType=Application\\&keyVal=_MSUFF_DCAPR_109532
> 
> It appears that claws is rewriting the URL (two added backslashes)
> and that causes the request to fail with an error page.
> 
> Does anybdoy recognize this problem?

The most likely reason, it seems to me, is that you are talking about
an html message and this (with the 2 extra slashes) is actually what
the link contains. i.e. it's not a problem of Claws-Mail, but a
problem with the message.

Feel free to send (forward as attachment) me (off list) a copy of one
of the messages which does not seem to work.

Upgrading Claws-Mail will not help because, iirc, nothing has
changed in relation to link parsing, and certainly the problem you
describe has never been described before.

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 31 15:58:54 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 13:58:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3655] Gmail IMAP account asks to "Rebuild folder tree"
 on each launch
In-Reply-To: <bug-3655-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3655-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3655-595-oqu8AklXLg@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3655

--- Comment #11 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
(In reply to comment #10)
> Only one email should be set with IMAP/SMTP, the other 2 should be "SMTP
> only".

You have 2 IMAP accounts.

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You are receiving this mail because:
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From linux at karmasailing.uk  Wed Aug 31 20:13:21 2016
From: linux at karmasailing.uk (Bob Williams)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 19:13:21 +0100
Subject: [Users] Problem building claws-mail
Message-ID: <20160831191321.549deb98@hexagon.home.karmasailing.uk>

I am currently running claws-mail 3.12.0 on openSUSE Leap 42.1. This is
the latest version provided as a pre-built .rpm in the openSUSE repos.

I would like to use a more up to date version, so I've followed the
instructions to git-clone the claws mail repository. However, when I
do ./autogen.sh or ./configure I get the following error

19:02 bob at hexagon:~/git_repos/claws> ./autogen.sh
./autogen.sh: line 39: aclocal: command not found
/home/bob/git_repos/claws/configure: line 2: syntax error near
unexpected token `2.59'
/home/bob/git_repos/claws/configure: line 2: `AC_PREREQ(2.59)'

What do I need to do to get past this blockage?

Bob
-- 
Bob Williams
   System:  Linux 4.1.20-11-default
   Distro:  openSUSE 42.1 (x86_64)
   Desktop: KDE Frameworks: 5.21.0, Qt: 5.5.1 and Plasma: 
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 31 20:22:17 2016
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 18:22:17 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3683] New: "forward as attachment" when used in ACTION
Message-ID: <bug-3683-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3683

            Bug ID: 3683
           Summary: "forward as attachment" when used in ACTION
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: other
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 10
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: gerard.seibert at gmail.com

I am using a BETA version of claws-mail, version 3.14.0-39-g986e6f-dirty on a
Windows 10 PRO amd 64 machine. However, this seems to apply to all versions of
claws-mail.

I work for a municipality. Quite often I have to forward emails onto
associates, usually using the "forward as attachment" option. This works fine.
If I select multiple emails, they are all sent bundled into one email. Again,
exactly what I intended. The problem starts if I try to create an "ACTION"
command using the "forward as attachment" option. In that case, each email, if
multiple emails are selected, is forwarded separately. That is inconsistent
with the normal operation of "claws-mail". I was going to file a BUG report
regarding this; however, I thought I would check to see if it was actually a
BUG or the designed behavior. If it is by design, then why? I believe it should
work consistently.

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You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.


From dave at howorth.org.uk  Wed Aug 31 21:49:57 2016
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 20:49:57 +0100
Subject: [Users] broken links in emails
In-Reply-To: <20160830223351.00003a20@prost.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20160830211444.3a2d7231@acer-suse.lan>
 <20160830212056.0502d1e4@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20160830213918.6f18d38d@acer-suse.lan>
 <20160830223351.00003a20@prost.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20160831204957.2d820bda@acer-suse.lan>

On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 22:33:51 +0100
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 21:39:18 +0100
> Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 21:20:56 +0100
> > Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 21:14:44 +0100
> > > Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hello Dave,
> > >   
> > > >http://planningpages.midsuffolk.gov.uk/online-applications/centralDistribution.do?caseType=Application&keyVal=_MSUFF_DCAPR_109532  
> > > 
> > > That link works fine from here.  
> >  
> > That's great for you. Any idea on why it doesn't work here?
> > 
> > Oh, Claws Mail version 3.12.0
> 
> Works perfectly for me too, both Brad and I are using Claws 3.14.0 or
> a later git version.
> 
> I think it will work if you upgrade.

Thanks. I'm using the version that comes with my distro and I generally
prefer to do that rather than use other sources for apps. Is there a
known bug in the version I am using that was fixed in making the newer
version? Then I could ask the distro to patch it.

Cheers, Dave


From dave at howorth.org.uk  Wed Aug 31 21:56:48 2016
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 20:56:48 +0100
Subject: [Users] broken links in emails
In-Reply-To: <20160831083209.7954d523@kujata>
References: <20160830211444.3a2d7231@acer-suse.lan>
 <20160831083209.7954d523@kujata>
Message-ID: <20160831205648.01ba4036@acer-suse.lan>

On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 08:32:09 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 21:14:44 +0100
> Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote: 
> 
> > I receive some emails that include hypertext links. One of them
> > doesn't work. The link in the mail as received is, for example:
> > 
> > http://planningpages.midsuffolk.gov.uk/online-applications/centralDistribution.do?caseType=Application&keyVal=_MSUFF_DCAPR_109532
> > 
> > but when I click on it to open it, the link that is opened is:
> > 
> > http://planningpages.midsuffolk.gov.uk/online-applications/centralDistribution.do?caseType=Application\\&keyVal=_MSUFF_DCAPR_109532
> > 
> > It appears that claws is rewriting the URL (two added backslashes)
> > and that causes the request to fail with an error page.
> > 
> > Does anybdoy recognize this problem?
> 
> The most likely reason, it seems to me, is that you are talking about
> an html message and this (with the 2 extra slashes) is actually what
> the link contains. i.e. it's not a problem of Claws-Mail, but a
> problem with the message.
> 
> Feel free to send (forward as attachment) me (off list) a copy of one
> of the messages which does not seem to work.

It is indeed an HTML mail:

Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

but the text of the link in the message is what I posted, according to
claws. So I think it is a problem with claws.

> Upgrading Claws-Mail will not help because, iirc, nothing has
> changed in relation to link parsing, and certainly the problem you
> describe has never been described before.

I rather hope the other posters are correct in suggesting that there
has been a change then. But given the doubt you have cast, I think it
is even more important to know what the change was before upgrading.

Cheers, Dave

> with regards
> 
> Paul
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users



From dave at howorth.org.uk  Wed Aug 31 22:30:15 2016
From: dave at howorth.org.uk (Dave Howorth)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 21:30:15 +0100
Subject: [Users] broken links in emails
In-Reply-To: <20160831205648.01ba4036@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20160830211444.3a2d7231@acer-suse.lan>
 <20160831083209.7954d523@kujata>
 <20160831205648.01ba4036@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20160831213015.2efd7bbf@acer-suse.lan>

On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 20:56:48 +0100
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 08:32:09 +0100
> Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 21:14:44 +0100
> > Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote: 
> > 
> > > I receive some emails that include hypertext links. One of them
> > > doesn't work. The link in the mail as received is, for example:
> > > 
> > > http://planningpages.midsuffolk.gov.uk/online-applications/centralDistribution.do?caseType=Application&keyVal=_MSUFF_DCAPR_109532
> > > 
> > > but when I click on it to open it, the link that is opened is:
> > > 
> > > http://planningpages.midsuffolk.gov.uk/online-applications/centralDistribution.do?caseType=Application\\&keyVal=_MSUFF_DCAPR_109532
> > > 
> > > It appears that claws is rewriting the URL (two added backslashes)
> > > and that causes the request to fail with an error page.
> > > 
> > > Does anybdoy recognize this problem?
> > 
> > The most likely reason, it seems to me, is that you are talking
> > about an html message and this (with the 2 extra slashes) is
> > actually what the link contains. i.e. it's not a problem of
> > Claws-Mail, but a problem with the message.
> > 
> > Feel free to send (forward as attachment) me (off list) a copy of
> > one of the messages which does not seem to work.
> 
> It is indeed an HTML mail:
> 
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
> 
> but the text of the link in the message is what I posted, according to
> claws. So I think it is a problem with claws.
> 
> > Upgrading Claws-Mail will not help because, iirc, nothing has
> > changed in relation to link parsing, and certainly the problem you
> > describe has never been described before.
> 
> I rather hope the other posters are correct in suggesting that there
> has been a change then. But given the doubt you have cast, I think it
> is even more important to know what the change was before upgrading.
> 
> Cheers, Dave

FWIW, I just sent myself a plain text email (sent by claws and received
by claws). The email contained an HTTP link that included a fragment
with an ampersand in it. When I clicked on the link, it tried to open
one with two backslashes in the address just before the ampersand. So
this has nothing to do with HTML encoded email.

So this seems to be an easy to reproduce 100% bug in claws. I'm amazed
if it hasn't been seen before.

The claws FAQ says that this list is the place to come if you want to
report bugs, but is that correct? How do I report this?

Cheers, Dave


From andrej at kacian.sk  Wed Aug 31 22:41:04 2016
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 22:41:04 +0200
Subject: [Users] broken links in emails
In-Reply-To: <20160831213015.2efd7bbf@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20160830211444.3a2d7231@acer-suse.lan>
 <20160831083209.7954d523@kujata>
 <20160831205648.01ba4036@acer-suse.lan>
 <20160831213015.2efd7bbf@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20160831224104.14e88ef3@penny>

On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 21:30:15 +0100
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:

> So this seems to be an easy to reproduce 100% bug in claws. I'm amazed
> if it hasn't been seen before.

Or it could be a bug in whatever browser handles the request. I can't
reproduce this either, in plaintext nor a html message. Try running
claws-mail with --debug option from the terminal, to see what URL gets
passed to xdg-open.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Wed Aug 31 22:55:00 2016
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 14:55:00 -0600
Subject: [Users] broken links in emails
In-Reply-To: <20160831213015.2efd7bbf@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20160830211444.3a2d7231@acer-suse.lan>
 <20160831083209.7954d523@kujata>
 <20160831205648.01ba4036@acer-suse.lan>
 <20160831213015.2efd7bbf@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20160831145500.0e3b7c1f@hawk.localdomain>

On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 21:30:15 +0100
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote:

> FWIW, I just sent myself a plain text email (sent by claws and
> received by claws). The email contained an HTTP link that included a
> fragment with an ampersand in it. When I clicked on the link, it
> tried to open one with two backslashes in the address just before the
> ampersand. So this has nothing to do with HTML encoded email.

Curiouser and curiouser. I just checked the plain text version to which
I am replying and your original email. I do not see the spurious back
slashes in the one line display at the bottom of the Claws-mail window,
nor do I see the spurious back slashes when I copy and paste.

I am using Claws Mail version 3.11.1 on Debian 8.5. According to the
headers I am sending out:

X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)

According to the header in your email, you are using:

X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.12.0 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-suse-linux-gnu)

Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> reports not seeing it, and he has:

X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.0 (GTK+ 2.24.30; i686-w64-mingw32)

I conjecture that something between the two versions introduced the
bug, and it was subsequently removed.

-- 

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
-- U.S. Const. Amendment IV

Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0  809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 31 23:38:18 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 22:38:18 +0100
Subject: [Users] broken links in emails
In-Reply-To: <20160831145500.0e3b7c1f@hawk.localdomain>
References: <20160830211444.3a2d7231@acer-suse.lan>
 <20160831083209.7954d523@kujata>
 <20160831205648.01ba4036@acer-suse.lan>
 <20160831213015.2efd7bbf@acer-suse.lan>
 <20160831145500.0e3b7c1f@hawk.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20160831223818.33aca0d8@kujata>

On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 14:55:00 -0600
Charles Curley <charlescurley at charlescurley.com> wrote: 

> I am using Claws Mail version 3.11.1 on Debian 8.5. According to the
> headers I am sending out:
> 
> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
> 
> According to the header in your email, you are using:
> 
> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.12.0 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-suse-linux-gnu)
> 
> Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> reports not seeing it, and he
> has:
> 
> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.0 (GTK+ 2.24.30; i686-w64-mingw32)

I just tested with Claws Mail 3.12.0, clicking the link worked fine.

> I conjecture that something between the two versions introduced the
> bug, and it was subsequently removed.

There was nothing that I know of that could have caused the problem
in any of these versions, so I expected it to work fine.

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 31 23:48:02 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 22:48:02 +0100
Subject: [Users] Problem building claws-mail
In-Reply-To: <20160831191321.549deb98@hexagon.home.karmasailing.uk>
References: <20160831191321.549deb98@hexagon.home.karmasailing.uk>
Message-ID: <20160831224802.134495a3@kujata>

On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 19:13:21 +0100
Bob Williams <linux at karmasailing.uk> wrote: 

> I would like to use a more up to date version, so I've followed the
> instructions to git-clone the claws mail repository. However, when I
> do ./autogen.sh or ./configure I get the following error
> 
> 19:02 bob at hexagon:~/git_repos/claws> ./autogen.sh
> ./autogen.sh: line 39: aclocal: command not found
> /home/bob/git_repos/claws/configure: line 2: syntax error near
> unexpected token `2.59'
> /home/bob/git_repos/claws/configure: line 2: `AC_PREREQ(2.59)'
> 
> What do I need to do to get past this blockage?

You are missing the auto-tools or your versions are too old. e.g.
autoconf, libtool, automake, bison, flex, and so on.

> aclocal: command not found

This is missing libtool

> AC_PREREQ(2.59)

This is the minimum required version of autoconf.

Try the release tarball here: http://www.claws-mail.org/releases.php
It has less requirements than a git build.

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Aug 31 23:51:13 2016
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 22:51:13 +0100
Subject: [Users] broken links in emails
In-Reply-To: <20160831213015.2efd7bbf@acer-suse.lan>
References: <20160830211444.3a2d7231@acer-suse.lan>
 <20160831083209.7954d523@kujata>
 <20160831205648.01ba4036@acer-suse.lan>
 <20160831213015.2efd7bbf@acer-suse.lan>
Message-ID: <20160831225113.7ef221f7@kujata>

On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 21:30:15 +0100
Dave Howorth <dave at howorth.org.uk> wrote: 

> The claws FAQ says that this list is the place to come if you want
> to report bugs, but is that correct? 

Yes, it's correct. It's also the place to ask questions and give
answers.

> How do I report this?

You're doing it.

Send me a copy of a message which has this problem, off-list, using
'forward as attachment'.

with regards

Paul