From mir at miras.org Fri Apr 1 00:00:35 2016 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 00:00:35 +0200 Subject: [Users] Red "S" in message Status field In-Reply-To: <20160401103052.54795144.jeremy@smartpoint.co.nz> References: <20160331103054.3aa9a8f8.jeremy@smartpoint.co.nz> <20160331090431.36c0889e@kujata> <20160401095714.118886ac.jeremy@smartpoint.co.nz> <20160331231535.72f6d40b@sleipner.datanom.net> <20160401103052.54795144.jeremy@smartpoint.co.nz> Message-ID: <20160401000035.706d91a8@sleipner.datanom.net> On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 10:30:52 +1300 Jeremy wrote: > Why does Claws think some of these emails are spam ? > > I don't have any of the spam or anti-virus plugins enabled. > > I can't see anything in the email headers which would indicate SPAM and > most of the messages flagged are legitimate. On what information is > Claws making this assessment ? > It is probably the imap server which has flagged the messages as spam. Message flags are not headers but various tags which can be labeled to messages. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: Actually, it also looks like we should optimize (13,2,42,8,'hike') into a pp_padav copy as well. -- Larry Wall in <199711081945.LAA06315 at wall.org> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 1 00:29:54 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 22:29:54 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3630] New: Ubuntu PPA very much out of date Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3630 Bug ID: 3630 Summary: Ubuntu PPA very much out of date Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.13.2 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Other Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: emblemparade at gmail.com It would be great to get this up to date with recent versions. Especially, please add support for the upcoming 16.06 LTS (xenial). Xenial repositories include 3.13.1, which is already out of date. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 1 00:34:11 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 22:34:11 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3630 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|Other |General Version|3.13.2 |unspecified Product|Claws Mail |Website Severity|normal |enhancement -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From albert.aribaud at free.fr Fri Apr 1 07:27:05 2016 From: albert.aribaud at free.fr (Albert ARIBAUD) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 07:27:05 +0200 Subject: [Users] Red "S" in message Status field In-Reply-To: <20160401095714.118886ac.jeremy@smartpoint.co.nz> References: <20160331103054.3aa9a8f8.jeremy@smartpoint.co.nz> <20160331090431.36c0889e@kujata> <20160401095714.118886ac.jeremy@smartpoint.co.nz> Message-ID: <20160401072705.068ae319@lilith> Hi Jeremy, Le Fri, 1 Apr 2016 09:57:14 +1300 Jeremy a écrit: > Apologies (Albert, Ralf), I missed the word "status." from the end of > the sentence in my original post ie. ...read/unread status. No problems. And, FTR, this new information allows resolving my hypothesis and makes my suggestion moot, which I am perfectly fine with -- that's what hypotheses are for. :) Amicalement, -- Albert. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 1 09:42:42 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 07:42:42 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3630 --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones --- (In reply to comment #0) […] > Especially, please add support for the upcoming 16.06 LTS (xenial). > > Xenial repositories include 3.13.1, which is already out of date. In this regard, please ask Ubuntu for synchronizing Debian version, it's the usual way to get the latest. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 1 10:28:10 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 08:28:10 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3630 --- Comment #2 from emblemparade --- They do, but their release cycles are such that users cannot always get the latest Claws Mail, and as it stands Claws Mail releases have crucial bug fixes. I thought that was why you maintained a PPA. I personally build Claws Mail for myself, but I think an up to date PPA would be very good for getting full reach to a wide range of Linux users. If you would rather not support Ubuntu in this way, then I suggest you close the PPA, because it hasn't been updated for years and is sorely out of date. If you need some help updating the PPA, please let me know. But my thought is that if you already have the PPA, you already have the deb build environment to upload packages to the PPA, you just haven't done it in a while. I think it just should be part of your general release cycle. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 1 11:07:51 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 09:07:51 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3630 --- Comment #3 from Ricardo Mones --- (In reply to comment #2) > They do, but their release cycles are such that users cannot always get the > latest Claws Mail, and as it stands Claws Mail releases have crucial bug > fixes. I thought that was why you maintained a PPA. No, that PPA was maintained because they usually don't sync unless requested by users on launchpad or there's an interested maintainer. For example in this precise case I think there was enough time to upload it to Xenial (22 days): * Debian sid got claws-mail 3.13.2-1 on 2016-01-26¹ * According their schedule² DebianImportFreeze ended on 2016-02-18 With this I'm not impliying they don't do on purpose. Everybody, including Ubuntu maintainers, has a life and that's fine, but don't blame release cycles mismatching for not having it in Ubuntu. Better blame yourself for not having requested it timely ;-) ¹ https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/claws-mail ² https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 1 11:25:14 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 09:25:14 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3630 --- Comment #4 from emblemparade --- That's all understood! But it seems the original reason for the PPA stands: "they usually don't sync unless requested by users on launchpad or there's an interested maintainer." So, something went wrong and we didn't get a sync. :) Is it that hard to do? You should already have everything in place. It would make life easier for many users who, unlike me, don't know how to build things on their own. The fact stands that Ubuntu users can't get the latest Claws Mail without building it. I wish I could blame myself, but it's impossible because I'm perfect. :) :) :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From hagen_riedel at gmx.de Fri Apr 1 13:15:33 2016 From: hagen_riedel at gmx.de (Hagen Riedel) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 13:15:33 +0200 Subject: [Users] Note on secret key selection when configuring claws-mail with GPGSM Message-ID: <20160401131533.0305c148@sparrow.zih.tu-dresden.de> I am using Claws Mail Version 3.11.1 with Debian GNU/Linux 8. My S/MIME certificate is provided by German DFN Public Key Infrastructure. As gpgsm contains two secret keys (there is an expired one) I have to select a default secret key to be used to sign or encrypt mails. The expired certificate is not automatically excluded with the default option "Use default GnuPG key" for PGP/Core Plugin found at Claws Mail Account preferences Plugins > GPG > Sign key (without an default-key specification at .gnupg/gpgsm.conf). A message "cannot sign, certificate expired (101)" is displayed (see screenshots attached). When I select the option "Select key by your email address" an error dialog "Signature failed. Secret key specification is ambiguous" appears. So I ran `gpgsm --list-secret-keys` and copied the line ID (see 'HOW TO SPECIFY A USER ID' at gpgsm manpage) to the field "User or key ID" at Account preferences mentioned above. This resulted in the message "Secret key not found (End of file)". `gpgsm --list-secret-keys` shows for my DFN-PKI mail certificate "ID: 0xFFFFFFFFXXXXXX92". Meanwhile I suppose this information is erroneous. However, initially I was in doubt how to specify the certificate at claws-mail frontend. There is no restart required for Claws Mail to apply changes to this plugin setting but you cannot edit accounts when composing windows are open. So I would recommend to use the selection "Use default GnuPG key" and experiment with the gpgsm option '--default-key'. The behaviour is the same and changes to default config file ~/.gnupg/gpgsm.conf come into effect immediatly. Hash character can be used to comment lines. Manpages introduces gpgsm.conf like this: > It may contain any valid long option; the leading two dashes may not > be entered and the option may not be abbreviated. Testing revealed (I applied some masking by X character): # Fingerprint is OK. #default-key XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:X:EE:92 # Long key ID showed upon `gpgsm --list-secret-keys --with-colons` # is OK. #default-key 10BEC068XXXXXX92 # 8 trailing characters of long key ID # is OK (with or without leading '0x'). # This is probably what `gpgsm --list-secret-keys` should correctly # display. #default-key 0xXXXXXX92 #default-key XXXXXX92 # ID listed with `gpgsm --list-secret-keys` yields an error # ERROR S/MIME: Cannot sign, General error (1) #default-key FFFFFFFFXXXXXX92 #default-key 0xFFFFFFFFXXXXXX92 Specifying user ID by exact match on serial number and issuer's DN did not succeed. Please note, that the use of key Ids is just a shortcut, for all automated processing the fingerprint should be used. I hope this guide can help users to debug similar errors in configuration. 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I assume the reason is that the pointer is copied around at some point and although it's nulled on freeing the copy will still be accessed. I'm attaching an asan crash dump. Not sure how to debug this further. Unfortunately I'm still not able to reliably reproduce this, but it happens usually after moving around and deleting a few messages in my inbox. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 1 16:36:59 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 14:36:59 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3598] use after free in function summary_execute_move_func() In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3598 --- Comment #10 from Hanno Boeck --- Created attachment 1639 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1639&action=edit asan error of use after free with latest git code -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 1 17:11:05 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 15:11:05 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3598] use after free in function summary_execute_move_func() In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3598 --- Comment #11 from Ricardo Mones --- (In reply to comment #9) > Unfortunately it seems this fix is not enough. I am still able to reproduce > this issue with the latest git code. > > I assume the reason is that the pointer is copied around at some point and > although it's nulled on freeing the copy will still be accessed. I'm > attaching an asan crash dump. > > Not sure how to debug this further. Unfortunately I'm still not able to > reliably reproduce this, but it happens usually after moving around and > deleting a few messages in my inbox. It seems the problem is that in folder.c the msginfo->subject is inserted in the subject GHashTable without being g_strdup'ed (using utils.c:subject_table_insert). If freed by procmsg_msginfo_free, the utils.c:subject_table_lookup function will try to access a freed string, as the asan report shows. HTH, -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From slitt at troubleshooters.com Sat Apr 2 00:48:23 2016 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 18:48:23 -0400 Subject: [Users] Red "S" in message Status field In-Reply-To: <20160331105509.7deb7bc4@lilith> References: <20160331103054.3aa9a8f8.jeremy@smartpoint.co.nz> <20160331100004.1e0bd55c@lilith> <20160331102031.554a3803@utnubu> <20160331105509.7deb7bc4@lilith> Message-ID: <20160401184823.541b3f7b@mydesk.domain.cxm> On Thu, 31 Mar 2016 10:55:09 +0200 Albert ARIBAUD wrote: > Hello Ralf, > > Le Thu, 31 Mar 2016 10:20:31 +0200 > Ralf Mardorf a écrit: > > > On Thu, 31 Mar 2016 10:00:04 +0200, Albert ARIBAUD wrote: > > >Le Thu, 31 Mar 2016 10:30:54 +1300 Jeremy a écrit: > > >> in my message list window. Normally this has the read/unread > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > >In which column does the "S" circle appear? > > > > This has nothing to do with unicode chars, this column displays > > pictures, not chars. > > Considering: > > 1) the OP's sentence was not grammatically correct and thus quite > possibly not terminated, even not proofread, before posting, > > 2) posters are not necessarily 100% perfect and exact, and > > 3) I clearly wrote "*IF*" (emphasis and caps mine) in my post, > > I'll stand by my understanding of the poster's question and by my > analysis and request for clarification until such clarification is > provided by the OP. > > Amicalement, The only grammar problem I saw in the OP's message was lack of a period after the sentence beginning with "Normally". That being said, I was quite impressed with Albert's response to the OP. Albert assumed nothing, cast the widest net possible, and tried to ask questions to 1) Narrow the root cause scope and 2) Verify, sometimes by redundancy, what was already suspected. When I teach Troubleshooting Process classes, I stress that people should never narrow the root cause scope based on unverified assumptions, or even user statements suspected not be the whole story. I think Albert's response was pretty good, and commend him for not yet declaring this to be or not be related to Unicode. SteveT Steve Litt March 2016 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 2 11:38:08 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 10:38:08 +0100 Subject: [Users] Red "S" in message Status field In-Reply-To: <20160401184823.541b3f7b@mydesk.domain.cxm> References: <20160331103054.3aa9a8f8.jeremy@smartpoint.co.nz> <20160331100004.1e0bd55c@lilith> <20160331102031.554a3803@utnubu> <20160331105509.7deb7bc4@lilith> <20160401184823.541b3f7b@mydesk.domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20160402103808.51198378@kujata> On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 18:48:23 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > I think Albert's response was pretty good, and commend him for not > yet declaring this to be or not be related to Unicode. Nonsense. If we look back at the first paragraph of the original message: "I've just started seeing a white "S" in a red circle alongside some messages in my message list window. Normally this has the read/unread" You see that last sentence. This means he is clearly talking about the Status column. Even the subject tells us this without even having to read the message. Or was your message just a cunning way of advertising your business? Please, no more mentions of your business unless it is completely legitimate to mention it here on this list. with regards Paul From wa178492 at tesco.net Sat Apr 2 20:51:22 2016 From: wa178492 at tesco.net (GM) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 19:51:22 +0100 Subject: [Users] {Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date Message-ID: <570014AA.8090201@tesco.net> I agree with the OP. When as a Linux Mint user I first found CM I was encouraged by a regular contributor to this Board to install a ppa, the inference being that thereafter CM would be kept up to date. I am still on 3.11.1. No doubt some users will suggest that I should install updates myself. I would if I knew how - but where is the 'Sticky' explaining the process? I did think that it was for CM to release updates to Ubuntu (etc) to put in their repositories? So please, please, either update the ppa or provide some comprehensive instructions! --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 2 23:00:57 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2016 21:00:57 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3631] New: Gpgme plugin does not appears in modules UI Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3631 Bug ID: 3631 Summary: Gpgme plugin does not appears in modules UI Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.9.3 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: tiger34 at free.fr I run a Linux Ubuntu 14.04 LTS In fact I don't know if this is a Claws Mail or a GnuPG bug. Maybe this is not a bug at all. It may be a Gnupg one as when I load Kleopatra I have in the self-tests an error that say: "Gpg-agent Connectivity unexpected error". I did follow the process of downloading and compiling the Gpgme plugin and didn't encountered any errors but I cannot see any module in Claws Mail Configuration/Modules User Interface. Of course, I tried to click on "Load" button to find the Gpgme plugin to load, but didn't find it. I'm sorry if this is not actually a bug but only a problem of misunderstanding. If you have a work around to solve that problem, I'd be happy to be able to use Claws Mail with Gpg like I did on Windows. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 3 00:11:22 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2016 22:11:22 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3631] Gpgme plugin does not appears in modules UI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3631 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Paul --- Youll find ubuntu packages listed here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=claws-mail&suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names You want claws-mail-pgpinline claws-mail-pgpmime claws-mail-smime-plugin The files you will load are pgpinline.so pgpcore.so pgpmime.so smime.so If you need assistance don't open a "bug" item, but instead use the mailing list or IRC channel. Details provided here: http://www.claws-mail.org/MLs.php -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From claws-mail at fy3.co.uk Sun Apr 3 00:22:03 2016 From: claws-mail at fy3.co.uk (Chris Hirst) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 23:22:03 +0100 Subject: [Users] {Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date In-Reply-To: <570014AA.8090201@tesco.net> References: <570014AA.8090201@tesco.net> Message-ID: <20160402232203.3ecf4b21@chris-HP> > provide some comprehensive instructions! I have to agree with that, .... Particularly when it comes to documenting what dependencies are required for various plugins. From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sun Apr 3 00:24:51 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 00:24:51 +0200 Subject: [Users] {Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date In-Reply-To: <570014AA.8090201@tesco.net> References: <570014AA.8090201@tesco.net> Message-ID: <20160403002451.4debcdb0@utnubu> On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 19:51:22 +0100, GM wrote: >So please, please, either update the ppa or provide some comprehensive >instructions! # Once you cloned from git [1] and installed all dependencies [2] you only need # to cd into the git/build directory and run git pull --all make clean ./autogen.sh # For the following "foo_bar" could be "ubuntu" or what ever else you # like ./configure --build=$(uname -m)-foo_bar-linux-gnu --disable-maintainer-mode --prefix=/usr --disable-static --enable-silent-rules --disable-jpilot --enable-enchant --enable-gnutls --enable-ldap --enable-crash-dialog --enable-pgpmime-plugin --enable-spamassassin-plugin --enable-bogofilter-plugin # Since we are to lazy to build a package the usual way [no], we copy # the version using "cat version" so we later could paste it, when using # checkinstall cat version make # Ensure that all official claws related packages are removed: # claws-mail, claws-mail-dbg, libclaws-mail-dev, claws-mail-plugins, # claws-mail-spamassassin, claws-mail-pgpmime, claws-mail-pgpinline, # claws-mail-smime-plugin, claws-mail-bogofilter, claws-mail-i18n, # claws-mail-doc, claws-mail-tools, claws-mail-extra-plugins ... # and all the other packages, see # https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/c/claws-mail/control-3.13.2-1 # continue with sudo checkinstall # "checkinstall" is self-explaining, paste the current version 0 - Maintainer: [ foo ] 1 - Summary: [ A GTK+ based e-mail client - git checkout ] 2 - Name: [ claws-mail-git ] 3 - Version: [ 3.13.2-1-geb0880 ] 4 - Release: [ 1 ] 5 - License: [ GPL3 ] 6 - Group: [ checkinstall ] 7 - Architecture: [ amd64 ] 8 - Source location: [ claws ] 9 - Alternate source location: [ ] 10 - Requires: [ ] 11 - Provides: [ claws-mail ] 12 - Conflicts: [ ] 13 - Replaces: [ ] # Yes, we only build one package for all. # Regards, # Ralf # [1] git clone git://git.claws-mail.org/claws.git # [2] sudo apt-get build-dep claws-mail might do the job, if not take a look at # https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/c/claws-mail/control-3.13.2-1 # [no] get the Ubuntu sorce package, replace the source with claws from git, # edit the changelog and then run "libtoolize --force --copy "--automake", # "aclocal", "autoreconf" and "debuild -i -us -uc -b" or something similar From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sun Apr 3 00:38:25 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 00:38:25 +0200 Subject: [Users] {Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date In-Reply-To: <20160402232203.3ecf4b21@chris-HP> References: <570014AA.8090201@tesco.net> <20160402232203.3ecf4b21@chris-HP> Message-ID: <20160403003825.5c478805@utnubu> On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 23:22:03 +0100, Chris Hirst wrote: >X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.23; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) >documenting what dependencies are required for various plugins. Hi, what packages are required depends to the used distro. "unknown" is not very informative. If the distro is Debian or Ubuntu based, taker a look at the Debain tracker's claws-mail control file: https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/c/claws-mail/control-3.13.2-1 My main distro is Arch Linux, for Arch Linux it's not such a hassle, since Arch follows upstream, IOW it doesn't split into tons of grotesque packages. However, as already pointed out by my previous mail, "sudo apt-get build-dep claws-mail" might do the job automagically for Debian/Ubuntu based distros. Regards, Ralf From slitt at troubleshooters.com Sun Apr 3 01:27:25 2016 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 19:27:25 -0400 Subject: [Users] Red "S" in message Status field In-Reply-To: <20160402103808.51198378@kujata> References: <20160331103054.3aa9a8f8.jeremy@smartpoint.co.nz> <20160331100004.1e0bd55c@lilith> <20160331102031.554a3803@utnubu> <20160331105509.7deb7bc4@lilith> <20160401184823.541b3f7b@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160402103808.51198378@kujata> Message-ID: <20160402192725.244a6bac@mydesk.domain.cxm> On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 10:38:08 +0100 Paul wrote: > On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 18:48:23 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > I think Albert's response was pretty good, and commend him for not > > yet declaring this to be or not be related to Unicode. > > Nonsense. If we look back at the first paragraph of the original > message: > > "I've just started seeing a white "S" in a red circle > alongside some messages in my message list window. Normally this has > the read/unread" > > You see that last sentence. This means he is clearly talking about > the Status column. Even the subject tells us this without even having > to read the message. You and I are just going to have to agree to disagree on this. I've seen simple reproducible problems go on for a week because somebody prematurely ruled out a section of the root cause scope. And although your experience might differ from mine, I and a huge majority of Troubleshooters I talk to have found that a significant proportion of user symptom descriptions are either ambiguous, unclear, or just plain wrong. To assume they're right is to risk turning an easy problem into a difficult one. So I continue to support what Albert wrote. > Or was your message just a cunning way of advertising your business? > > Please, no more mentions of your business unless it is completely > legitimate to mention it here on this list. Fine. SteveT Steve Litt == Whose business shall never be mentioned on the Claws-Mail List == From edodd55 at gmail.com Sun Apr 3 02:09:02 2016 From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 10:09:02 +1000 Subject: [Users] Red "S" in message Status field In-Reply-To: <20160402192725.244a6bac@mydesk.domain.cxm> References: <20160331103054.3aa9a8f8.jeremy@smartpoint.co.nz> <20160331100004.1e0bd55c@lilith> <20160331102031.554a3803@utnubu> <20160331105509.7deb7bc4@lilith> <20160401184823.541b3f7b@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160402103808.51198378@kujata> <20160402192725.244a6bac@mydesk.domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20160403100902.4333804a.edodd55@gmail.com> On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 19:27:25 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > You and I are just going to have to agree to disagree on this. I've > seen simple reproducible problems go on for a week because somebody > prematurely ruled out a section of the root cause scope. And although > your experience might differ from mine, I and a huge majority of > Troubleshooters I talk to have found that a significant proportion of > user symptom descriptions are either ambiguous, unclear, or just plain > wrong. To assume they're right is to risk turning an easy problem into > a difficult one. Not wishing to drag this out, any further OT, however.... I am responsible for teaching young people in my profession (deliberately not named). I would like to support Steve L's statements. Problem solving doesn't happen when you don't get the initial details correct. We deliberately teach checking your own understanding of the problem by stating your understanding of the problem to the complainant, and ensuring you have got the details correct. Liz with professional degrees, and an education qualification. From slitt at troubleshooters.com Sun Apr 3 02:31:08 2016 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 20:31:08 -0400 Subject: [Users] Overriding signature, Message-ID: <20160402203108.2ee3a27f@mydesk.domain.cxm> Hi all, I have a signature file that's useful for 90% of my email folders. The file is named in Account Preferences->Compose, as I remember. But on the other 10%, the folders have their own templates. On those 10%, I'd enjoy it if the signature file didn't print below the template. Is there any way to do that? SteveT Steve Litt == Whose business shall never be mentioned on the Claws-Mail List == From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 3 10:16:08 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 09:16:08 +0100 Subject: [Users] Red "S" in message Status field In-Reply-To: <20160403100902.4333804a.edodd55@gmail.com> References: <20160331103054.3aa9a8f8.jeremy@smartpoint.co.nz> <20160331100004.1e0bd55c@lilith> <20160331102031.554a3803@utnubu> <20160331105509.7deb7bc4@lilith> <20160401184823.541b3f7b@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160402103808.51198378@kujata> <20160402192725.244a6bac@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160403100902.4333804a.edodd55@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20160403091608.1e914899@kujata> On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 10:09:02 +1000 Liz wrote: > Not wishing to drag this out, any further OT, however.... > > I am responsible for teaching young people in my profession > (deliberately not named). I would like to support Steve L's > statements. Problem solving doesn't happen when you don't get the > initial details correct. We deliberately teach checking your own > understanding of the problem by stating your understanding of the > problem to the complainant, and ensuring you have got the details > correct. > > Liz > with professional degrees, and an education qualification. A man walks into a greengrocers. I'd like some apples, please. What about some juicy oranges? No thanks. Bananas are cheap right now. No thanks. How about grapes? No. What sort of apples do you want? Bramleys. .... In my experience of this list, and I'm not drawing on any "transferable skills" here, you answer what was asked. You don't digress or speculate about what might be meant until you have exhausted what was originally stated. This is more useful for the OP and for anyone reading the list archive in the future. During all this speculation and digression the original question was answered and resolved, and it had nothing to do with the digressions and everything to do with what the OP originally stated. > with professional degrees, and an education qualification. pff! with regards Paul From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 3 10:19:58 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 09:19:58 +0100 Subject: [Users] Overriding signature, In-Reply-To: <20160402203108.2ee3a27f@mydesk.domain.cxm> References: <20160402203108.2ee3a27f@mydesk.domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20160403091958.0b674cf7@kujata> On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 20:31:08 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > I have a signature file that's useful for 90% of my email folders. > The file is named in Account Preferences->Compose, as I remember. > > But on the other 10%, the folders have their own templates. On those > 10%, I'd enjoy it if the signature file didn't print below the > template. Is there any way to do that? Instead of using the signature options on the Compose page, add your signature using a template. Then your folder template will override that. > == Whose business shall never be mentioned on the Claws-Mail List == There's no need to sulk. No one will mind you putting your URL in your signature. It's just that it seems, (I say 'seems', I'm sure it's not that), that you promote your business with every message you write to the list, and after several years this brazen marketing technique got a bit tedious. with regards Paul From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sun Apr 3 10:30:01 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 10:30:01 +0200 Subject: [Users] Absolutely OT: Red "S" in message Status field In-Reply-To: <20160403100902.4333804a.edodd55@gmail.com> References: <20160331103054.3aa9a8f8.jeremy@smartpoint.co.nz> <20160331100004.1e0bd55c@lilith> <20160331102031.554a3803@utnubu> <20160331105509.7deb7bc4@lilith> <20160401184823.541b3f7b@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160402103808.51198378@kujata> <20160402192725.244a6bac@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160403100902.4333804a.edodd55@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20160403103001.1f401588@utnubu> Liz and Steve, if an issue is explained that good, that there aren't doubts, since a misunderstanding is highly unlikely, then it's not good to assume the possibility of a misunderstanding by hook or crook and to bring in an absurd possibility. Good troubleshooting means to keep in mind that a misunderstanding, confused communication, something very unlikely always is possible, but anyway, first to methodically check the most plausible, most likely possibilities step by step. If somebody mentions that the toaster is defect, it's not good trouble shooting, to mention that last week your car was damaged and to assume that perhaps the one reporting the defect toaster is mistaken and not the toaster does cause an issue, but the car of this person is damaged, too. However, if you guess the car might be defect, instead of the toaster, this could happen, because we are humans and "errare humanum est", it makes no sense afterwards to insist that mistaken troubleshooting was not mistaken troubleshooting, but instead to call it a good troubleshooting method. Always start to check the most probable things. If you for good reasons have doubts, it seems to be likely that somebody made a mistake, since somebody e.g. guesses that the rain-sensing wipers of the toaster are broken, it's something else, but as long as there aren't such doubts for good reasons, don't care about something very unlikely. If somebody points out, that your troubleshooting is mistaken and you indeed was mistaken, it's wise to accept it, instead of explaining why something absurd, based on misunderstanding the report, was a good way to exclude something completely unlikely. Regards, Ralf From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 3 10:48:56 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 09:48:56 +0100 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail FAQ Message-ID: <20160403094856.45dc06ca@kujata> Hi, FYI, the Claws Mail FAQ is now once again open to new accounts. It was heavily targeted by spammers previously, and dealing with that took so much of my time that I decided to shut up shop. However, now we have an update, and all new accounts need to be confirmed and approved, so I'm opening the floodgates again. So please do feel free to add information and edit information there. http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/ Thanks in advance Paul -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 801 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From tiger34 at free.fr Sun Apr 3 14:25:56 2016 From: tiger34 at free.fr (tiger34 at free.fr) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 14:25:56 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Users] Gpgme Claws Mail module In-Reply-To: <685702673.64030967.1459683945394.JavaMail.root@zimbra14-e2.priv.proxad.net> Message-ID: <695770095.64098014.1459686356665.JavaMail.root@zimbra14-e2.priv.proxad.net> Hi All, I would like some help to be able to load Gpgme module in Claws Mail "Configuration/Modules UI" to be able to use Claws mail and Gpg. Here is what I've done. - I run Ubuntu 14.04 LTS - I installed Claws Mail 3.9.3 using Ubuntu UI. If I do now an "apt-get install claws-mail" it says I've already the latest version. - When I saw I had no Gpg modules loaded, I went to the indicated URL (http://www.claws-mail.org/plugins.php) to follow the process. - So I downloaded gpgme-1.6.0.tar.bz2 and when I ran a ./configure, it told me to get libassuan and libgpg-error So I went to ftp.gnupg and I got libassuan-2.4.2.tar.bz2 and libgppg-error-1.21.tar.gz For both I ran ./configure, make, make install So finally I could run on Gpgme-1.6.0 ./configure, make, make install I didn't notice any error. So now I should be able to load one of these files (pgpinline.so, pgpcore.so, pgpmime.so, smime.so) in Claws Mail modules UI, but I can't find any on my hard disk. To be complete Ubuntu has already Gnupg 1.4.16 installed and apt-get says it's the latest version that it can get. A last information that might explain the issue I get, when I run Kleopatra, at self-tests it says for "gpg-agent connectivity" that there's an unexpected error. So, at your opinions, what should I do now to have a chance to load a gpg module in Claws Mail to be able to use gpg within Claws Mail ? Thanks in advance for your answers. From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sun Apr 3 14:49:14 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 14:49:14 +0200 Subject: [Users] Gpgme Claws Mail module In-Reply-To: <695770095.64098014.1459686356665.JavaMail.root@zimbra14-e2.priv.proxad.net> References: <685702673.64030967.1459683945394.JavaMail.root@zimbra14-e2.priv.proxad.net> <695770095.64098014.1459686356665.JavaMail.root@zimbra14-e2.priv.proxad.net> Message-ID: <20160403144914.3b0f12ec@utnubu> I could imagine several issues, however, did you run sudo ldconfig http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/ldconfig.8.html ? Assumed it shouldn't be related to the linker for shared libs, than perhaps you installed to /usr/local, while claws from repositories by default takes a look at /usr, what did you chose for "prefix="? Claws allows to chose the "Load..." path for plugins. Search using the find command find /usr/lib/claws-mail/ -name pgpmime* and find /usr/local/lib/claws-mail/ -name pgpmime* after that chose the correct path when using Claws "Load..." option. From mailinglists at gusnan.se Sun Apr 3 14:59:56 2016 From: mailinglists at gusnan.se (Andreas Ronnquist) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 14:59:56 +0200 Subject: [Users] Gpgme Claws Mail module In-Reply-To: <695770095.64098014.1459686356665.JavaMail.root@zimbra14-e2.priv.proxad.net> References: <685702673.64030967.1459683945394.JavaMail.root@zimbra14-e2.priv.proxad.net> <695770095.64098014.1459686356665.JavaMail.root@zimbra14-e2.priv.proxad.net> Message-ID: <20160403145956.29c21386@debian-workstation.lan> On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 14:25:56 +0200 (CEST) tiger34 at free.fr wrote: >Hi All, > > >I would like some help to be able to load Gpgme module in Claws Mail >"Configuration/Modules UI" to be able to use Claws mail and Gpg. > >Here is what I've done. > >- I run Ubuntu 14.04 LTS >- I installed Claws Mail 3.9.3 using Ubuntu UI. > If I do now an "apt-get install claws-mail" it says I've already the > latest version. >- When I saw I had no Gpg modules loaded, I went to the indicated URL >(http://www.claws-mail.org/plugins.php) to follow the process. >- So I downloaded gpgme-1.6.0.tar.bz2 and when I ran a ./configure, it >told me to get libassuan and libgpg-error > So I went to ftp.gnupg and I got libassuan-2.4.2.tar.bz2 and > libgppg-error-1.21.tar.gz For both I ran ./configure, make, make > install So finally I could run on Gpgme-1.6.0 ./configure, make, make > install > You are looking for the package claws-mail-plugins which will give you the GPG plugins for claws, including the packages claws-mail-pgpinline claws-mail-pgpmime claws-mail-smime-plugin install this, and you won't need to build anything from source. The plugins should then be loadable from the folder /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins (You need GPG, and not GPGME specifically). best regards /Andreas gusnan at openmailbox.org mailinglists at gusnan.se From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sun Apr 3 15:03:23 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 15:03:23 +0200 Subject: [Users] Gpgme Claws Mail module In-Reply-To: <20160403144914.3b0f12ec@utnubu> References: <685702673.64030967.1459683945394.JavaMail.root@zimbra14-e2.priv.proxad.net> <695770095.64098014.1459686356665.JavaMail.root@zimbra14-e2.priv.proxad.net> <20160403144914.3b0f12ec@utnubu> Message-ID: <20160403150323.62014e67@utnubu> On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 14:49:14 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >I could imagine several issues, however, did you run > > sudo ldconfig > >http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/ldconfig.8.html ? > >Assumed it shouldn't be related to the linker for shared libs, >than perhaps you installed to /usr/local, while claws from repositories >by default takes a look at /usr, what did you chose for "prefix="? > >Claws allows to chose the "Load..." path for plugins. > >Search using the find command > > find /usr/lib/claws-mail/ -name pgpmime* > >and > > find /usr/local/lib/claws-mail/ -name pgpmime* > >after that chose the correct path when using Claws "Load..." option. PS: You mentioned that you run "configure" without options and that you can't find the plugins when using the GUI, so it's not related to ldconfig, but most likely the default when running config without the prefix option is /usr/local. Take a look with ls ls /usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/ From ethy.brito at inexo.com.br Sun Apr 3 15:39:27 2016 From: ethy.brito at inexo.com.br (Ethy H. Brito) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 10:39:27 -0300 Subject: [Users] {Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date In-Reply-To: <20160403002451.4debcdb0@utnubu> References: <570014AA.8090201@tesco.net> <20160403002451.4debcdb0@utnubu> Message-ID: <20160403103927.5a243e5c@babalu> On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 00:24:51 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 19:51:22 +0100, GM wrote: > >So please, please, either update the ppa or provide some comprehensive > >instructions! > > # Once you cloned from git [1] and installed all dependencies [2] you > only need # to cd into the git/build directory and run > > git pull --all > > make clean > > ./autogen.sh > > # For the following "foo_bar" could be "ubuntu" or what ever else you > # like > > ./configure --build=$(uname -m)-foo_bar-linux-gnu > --disable-maintainer-mode --prefix=/usr --disable-static > --enable-silent-rules --disable-jpilot --enable-enchant --enable-gnutls > --enable-ldap --enable-crash-dialog --enable-pgpmime-plugin > --enable-spamassassin-plugin --enable-bogofilter-plugin > > # Since we are to lazy to build a package the usual way [no], we copy > # the version using "cat version" so we later could paste it, when using > # checkinstall > > cat version > > make > > # Ensure that all official claws related packages are removed: > # claws-mail, claws-mail-dbg, libclaws-mail-dev, claws-mail-plugins, > # claws-mail-spamassassin, claws-mail-pgpmime, claws-mail-pgpinline, > # claws-mail-smime-plugin, claws-mail-bogofilter, claws-mail-i18n, > # claws-mail-doc, claws-mail-tools, claws-mail-extra-plugins ... > # and all the other packages, see > # https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/c/claws-mail/control-3.13.2-1 > # continue with > > sudo checkinstall > > # "checkinstall" is self-explaining, paste the current version > > 0 - Maintainer: [ foo ] > 1 - Summary: [ A GTK+ based e-mail client - git checkout ] > 2 - Name: [ claws-mail-git ] > 3 - Version: [ 3.13.2-1-geb0880 ] > 4 - Release: [ 1 ] > 5 - License: [ GPL3 ] > 6 - Group: [ checkinstall ] > 7 - Architecture: [ amd64 ] > 8 - Source location: [ claws ] > 9 - Alternate source location: [ ] > 10 - Requires: [ ] > 11 - Provides: [ claws-mail ] > 12 - Conflicts: [ ] > 13 - Replaces: [ ] > > # Yes, we only build one package for all. > > # Regards, > # Ralf > > # [1] git clone git://git.claws-mail.org/claws.git > # [2] sudo apt-get build-dep claws-mail might do the job, if not take a > look at # > https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/c/claws-mail/control-3.13.2-1 Ok then. Sorry if this is a silly question, but how to purge the almost 200 packages this command [2] installs after building claws? Cheers Ethy > # [no] get the Ubuntu sorce package, replace the source with claws from > git, # edit the changelog and then run "libtoolize --force --copy > "--automake", # "aclocal", "autoreconf" and "debuild -i -us -uc -b" > or something similar > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 3 16:57:59 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 15:57:59 +0100 Subject: [Users] Gpgme Claws Mail module In-Reply-To: <695770095.64098014.1459686356665.JavaMail.root@zimbra14-e2.priv.proxad.net> References: <685702673.64030967.1459683945394.JavaMail.root@zimbra14-e2.priv.proxad.net> <695770095.64098014.1459686356665.JavaMail.root@zimbra14-e2.priv.proxad.net> Message-ID: <20160403155759.7aeacdc7@kujata> On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 14:25:56 +0200 (CEST) tiger34 at free.fr wrote: > Thanks in advance for your answers. Just to calrify my response on the tracker... You need to issue this command: sudo apt-get install claws-mail-pgpinline claws-mail-pgpmime claws-mail-smime-plugin Then, in Claws Mail, go to /Configuration/Plugins, click the 'Load' button, select pgpinline.so, pgpcore.so, pgpmime.so, and smime.so and click 'OK'. with regards Paul From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 3 19:00:22 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2016 17:00:22 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3632] New: Parse PGP/MIME headers emitted by GPGMail + Exchange Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3632 Bug ID: 3632 Summary: Parse PGP/MIME headers emitted by GPGMail + Exchange Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: All Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: freebsd at grem.de Created attachment 1640 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1640&action=edit Read exchange butchered email, suitable for use with "git am" Exchange always wants to have at least one message part it understands, so it inserts an empty email text/plain attachment into the message, leading to three parts instead of two. It also changes the mime type of the container from "encrypted" to "mixed". The attached patch solves this problems and allows decryption of such email (signature checking works as well). multipart/mixed text/plain (length:0) application/pgp-encrypted application/octet-stream instead of the usual: multipart/encrypted (protocol="application/pgp-encrypted") application/pgp-encrypted application/octet-stream -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 3 19:14:18 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2016 17:14:18 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3632] Parse PGP/MIME headers emitted by GPGMail + Exchange In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3632 Michael Gmelin changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1640|0 |1 is patch| | Attachment #1640|application/octet-stream |text/plain mime type| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sun Apr 3 20:03:47 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 20:03:47 +0200 Subject: [Users] {Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date & Re: Gpgme Claws Mail module In-Reply-To: <20160403103927.5a243e5c@babalu> References: <570014AA.8090201@tesco.net> <20160403002451.4debcdb0@utnubu> <20160403103927.5a243e5c@babalu> Message-ID: <20160403200347.178be6a9@utnubu> Hi, please don't send off-list and don't reply to me with CCing the list or vise versa CCing me, reply to the mailing list only. On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 10:39:27 -0300, Ethy H. Brito wrote: >Sorry if this is a silly question, but how to purge the almost 200 >packages this command [2] installs after building claws? Copy and save the list of packages, or get it from the log file using echo $(cat /var/log/dpkg.log|grep install|grep -v half-installed|grep 16-04-03|cut -d" " -f5|cut -d":" -f1) add the date here ^^^^^^^^ and later paste it to sudo apt-get purge be careful, but consider to run sudo apt-get autoremove too On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 16:39:18 +0200 (CEST), tiger34 at free.fr wrote: >I tried ldconfig, it returned nothing and the man page is not clear to >me what command I should build. As already pointed out by my other reply ldconfig isn't needed to access the plugins. However, ldconfig doesn't provide output, this is normal. >First, I ran ./configure with no arguments, then I ran again with >prefix=/usr as a result, I can find libgpgme.so in /usr/local/lib >AND /usr/lib Uninstall everything you compiled on your own... >What do you think about getting claws-mail git reprository to build ? >Would it be a good idea ? ...and follow the advice to install the Ubuntu packages, as mentioned by Andreas and Paul. Regards, Ralf From ricardo at mones.org Sun Apr 3 21:15:24 2016 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 21:15:24 +0200 Subject: [Users] {Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date In-Reply-To: <20160403103927.5a243e5c@babalu> References: <570014AA.8090201@tesco.net> <20160403002451.4debcdb0@utnubu> <20160403103927.5a243e5c@babalu> Message-ID: <20160403211524.6acc3cfb@busgosu> On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 10:39:27 -0300 "Ethy H. Brito" wrote: > Sorry if this is a silly question, but how to purge the almost 200 > packages this command [2] installs after building claws? Build them in a chroot or similar isolated environment, all installed packages will be gone when finished. BTW, this is how it's done in the hydra.debian.net package builder and there's also links to the source code doing it. regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it. Richard Feynman -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That is the worst analogy I can imagine for what's under discussion about the support thread. In case it's important to weigh in, IMO Steve and Liz are right, and I hope people here won't be deterred from that kind of good troubleshooting by the ridiculous (IMO, natch) pushback against it. From ricardo at mones.org Sun Apr 3 22:02:32 2016 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 22:02:32 +0200 Subject: [Users] {Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date In-Reply-To: <20160403003825.5c478805@utnubu> References: <570014AA.8090201@tesco.net> <20160402232203.3ecf4b21@chris-HP> <20160403003825.5c478805@utnubu> Message-ID: <20160403220232.42dfb673@busgosu> On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 00:38:25 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > since Arch follows upstream, IOW it doesn't split into tons of grotesque > packages. You really wanted to mean that it doesn't allow users to select what to install while being unable to build upstream package to provide the user manuals… Oops! ;-) -- Ricardo Mones ~ Never send a human to do a machine's job. Agent Smith -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sun Apr 3 23:40:14 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 23:40:14 +0200 Subject: [Users] {Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date In-Reply-To: <20160403220232.42dfb673@busgosu> References: <570014AA.8090201@tesco.net> <20160402232203.3ecf4b21@chris-HP> <20160403003825.5c478805@utnubu> <20160403220232.42dfb673@busgosu> Message-ID: <20160403234014.75377245@utnubu> On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 22:02:32 +0200, Ricardo Mones wrote: >On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 00:38:25 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> since Arch follows upstream, IOW it doesn't split into tons of >> grotesque packages. > >You really wanted to mean that it doesn't allow users to select what to >install while being unable to build upstream package to provide the >user manuals… > >Oops! ;-) Hi, you're confusing official packages that aren't split and simply follow the name scheme from upstream, so nobody needs to search for dependencies, that don't fit to the names from upstream and the content you want or want not install, let alone packages you build yourself, which is much easier to do than building a Debian/Ubuntu package. Usually official Arch packages provide everything from upstream, there are just a few exceptions, such as kernel packages, that usually are split in image, header and docs packages, however, you either could use the FreeBSD ports alike Arch build system and build spilt packages or you simply use the not split packages from the official repositories and assumed you don't want to install everything, you specify what you don't want to install by pacman.conf. I'm not aware of anybody who is familiar with building packages for Debian/Ubuntu and Arch, who prefers the Debian/Ubuntu package policy and management tools over the Arch package policy and management tools. There might be one or the other, but I'm quite sure most power users and maintainers prefer Arch's package policy and package management tools over the Debian/Ubuntu once. Regards, Ralf From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sun Apr 3 23:57:16 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2016 23:57:16 +0200 Subject: [Users] Absolutely OT: Red "S" in message Status field In-Reply-To: <20160403145122.3de3667a@sepulchrave.remarqs> References: <20160331103054.3aa9a8f8.jeremy@smartpoint.co.nz> <20160331100004.1e0bd55c@lilith> <20160331102031.554a3803@utnubu> <20160331105509.7deb7bc4@lilith> <20160401184823.541b3f7b@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160402103808.51198378@kujata> <20160402192725.244a6bac@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160403100902.4333804a.edodd55@gmail.com> <20160403103001.1f401588@utnubu> <20160403145122.3de3667a@sepulchrave.remarqs> Message-ID: <1459720636.777.8.camel@zoho.com> On Sun, 2016-04-03 at 14:51 -0500, »Q« wrote: > In case it's important to weigh in, IMO Steve and Liz are right Actually the issue wasn't solved by Steve, Liz and Albert, but it was easily solved by others from the community, that had no doubt that the troubleshooting the community did was straight forward. So you suggest we next time should focus on assumptions, instead of      obviously good reports from original posters? From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Apr 3 23:57:38 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 22:57:38 +0100 Subject: [Users] Absolutely OT: Red "S" in message Status field In-Reply-To: <20160403145122.3de3667a@sepulchrave.remarqs> References: <20160331103054.3aa9a8f8.jeremy@smartpoint.co.nz> <20160331100004.1e0bd55c@lilith> <20160331102031.554a3803@utnubu> <20160331105509.7deb7bc4@lilith> <20160401184823.541b3f7b@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160402103808.51198378@kujata> <20160402192725.244a6bac@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160403100902.4333804a.edodd55@gmail.com> <20160403103001.1f401588@utnubu> <20160403145122.3de3667a@sepulchrave.remarqs> Message-ID: <20160403225738.6b4f8f27@kujata> On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 14:51:22 -0500 »Q« wrote: > In case it's important to weigh in, It's not. It's important /not/ to. > IMO Steve and Liz are right, What are they right about in their hypothetical theorising? You think their theory is correct? Right or not, there's no place for it here. It did not apply, as the original message was entirely clear, both by its subject and first paragraph. There was no doubt what it was about. Michael Rasmussen's responses are the only worthwhile responses. The rest are just a load of nothingness. Michael had already solved the problem before either Steve or Liz responded. And that's right?!? > and I hope people here won't be deterred from that kind of good > troubleshooting by the ridiculous (IMO, natch) pushback against it. I hope people will be deterred from speculation, digressions, failing to read the original message, off-topic posts, and business promotion on this list. with regards Paul From ricardo at mones.org Mon Apr 4 02:28:20 2016 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 02:28:20 +0200 Subject: [Users] {Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date In-Reply-To: <20160403234014.75377245@utnubu> References: <570014AA.8090201@tesco.net> <20160402232203.3ecf4b21@chris-HP> <20160403003825.5c478805@utnubu> <20160403220232.42dfb673@busgosu> <20160403234014.75377245@utnubu> Message-ID: <20160404022820.00c7374a@busgosu> On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 23:40:14 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 22:02:32 +0200, Ricardo Mones wrote: >>On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 00:38:25 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> >>> since Arch follows upstream, IOW it doesn't split into tons of >>> grotesque packages. >> >>You really wanted to mean that it doesn't allow users to select what to >>install while being unable to build upstream package to provide the >>user manuals… >> >>Oops! ;-) > > Hi, > > you're confusing official packages that aren't split and simply follow > the name scheme from upstream, so nobody needs to search for > dependencies, that don't fit to the names from upstream and the content > you want or want not install, let alone packages you build yourself, EPARSE (FWIW I was talking about official packages on Arch site) > which is much easier to do than building a Debian/Ubuntu package. Easiness only depends on knowledge. Building is done with just one command, I don't think it can be done with less, even in Arch :) > Usually official Arch packages provide everything from upstream, there > are just a few exceptions, such as kernel packages, that usually are > split in image, header and docs packages, however, you either could use > the FreeBSD ports alike Arch build system and build spilt packages or > you simply use the not split packages from the official repositories > and assumed you don't want to install everything, you specify what you > don't want to install by pacman.conf. That's not explaining why Claws Mail documentation is missing from Arch packages. > I'm not aware of anybody who is familiar with building packages for > Debian/Ubuntu and Arch, who prefers the Debian/Ubuntu package policy > and management tools over the Arch package policy and > management tools. There might be one or the other, but I'm quite sure > most power users and maintainers prefer Arch's package policy and > package management tools over the Debian/Ubuntu once. That's your opinion and unrelated to what I said, and seems based on a well known fallacy¹, BTW. I prefer opinions backed by facts, but don't have one for this, sorry. regards, ¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance -- Ricardo Mones ~ Quantity derives from measurement, figures from quantities, comparisons from figures, and victories from comparisons. Sun Tzu -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From silver.bullet at zoho.com Mon Apr 4 03:23:26 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 03:23:26 +0200 Subject: [Users] {Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date In-Reply-To: <20160404022820.00c7374a@busgosu> References: <570014AA.8090201@tesco.net> <20160402232203.3ecf4b21@chris-HP> <20160403003825.5c478805@utnubu> <20160403220232.42dfb673@busgosu> <20160403234014.75377245@utnubu> <20160404022820.00c7374a@busgosu> Message-ID: <20160404032326.6d088ad8@utnubu> On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 02:28:20 +0200, Ricardo Mones wrote: >Building is done with just one command Nonsense, it's not possible to build a Debian package by just running a single command, you need to write a rules and control file. >That's not explaining why Claws Mail documentation is missing from >Arch packages. If you noticed it and assumed you are missing it for the Arch packages, then why didn't you file a bug report? I did it for you: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/48804 From boxcars at gmx.net Mon Apr 4 06:49:09 2016 From: boxcars at gmx.net (=?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?=) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 23:49:09 -0500 Subject: [Users] Absolutely OT: Red "S" in message Status field References: <20160331103054.3aa9a8f8.jeremy@smartpoint.co.nz> <20160331100004.1e0bd55c@lilith> <20160331102031.554a3803@utnubu> <20160331105509.7deb7bc4@lilith> <20160401184823.541b3f7b@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160402103808.51198378@kujata> <20160402192725.244a6bac@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160403100902.4333804a.edodd55@gmail.com> <20160403103001.1f401588@utnubu> <20160403145122.3de3667a@sepulchrave.remarqs> <1459720636.777.8.camel@zoho.com> Message-ID: <20160403234909.00869ef6@sepulchrave.remarqs> On Sun, 03 Apr 2016 23:57:16 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2016-04-03 at 14:51 -0500, »Q« wrote: > > In case it's important to weigh in, IMO Steve and Liz are right > So you suggest we next time should focus on assumptions, instead > of obviously good reports from original posters? Not at all, but I do I hope people here won't be deterred from the kind of good troubleshooting they were talking about by your ridiculous (IMO, natch) pushback against it. I thought I said that before, and I think you're intentionally misconstruing whatever's said about it. From boxcars at gmx.net Mon Apr 4 07:08:05 2016 From: boxcars at gmx.net (=?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?=) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 00:08:05 -0500 Subject: [Users] Absolutely OT: Red "S" in message Status field References: <20160331103054.3aa9a8f8.jeremy@smartpoint.co.nz> <20160331100004.1e0bd55c@lilith> <20160331102031.554a3803@utnubu> <20160331105509.7deb7bc4@lilith> <20160401184823.541b3f7b@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160402103808.51198378@kujata> <20160402192725.244a6bac@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160403100902.4333804a.edodd55@gmail.com> <20160403103001.1f401588@utnubu> <20160403145122.3de3667a@sepulchrave.remarqs> <20160403225738.6b4f8f27@kujata> Message-ID: <20160404000805.11ca5aca@sepulchrave.remarqs> On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 22:57:38 +0100 Paul wrote: > On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 14:51:22 -0500 > »Q« wrote: > > > In case it's important to weigh in, > > It's not. It's important /not/ to. And yet you have, multiple times. Is it that only people who agree with you should weigh in? > > IMO Steve and Liz are right, > > What are they right about in their hypothetical theorising? I've just been informed that it's important for me *not* to weigh in, so I'm in a bit of a quandary about whether you want me to respond to your arguments or not. But I think you've misunderstood what I was talking about anyway; see below. > Michael had already solved the problem before either Steve or Liz > responded. And that's right?!? This digression about what's is or isn't good troubleshooting happened because of Ralf's unwarranted griping; Steve and Liz were responding downthread from Ralf, not responding to the OP's issue. From epodata at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 07:53:02 2016 From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 07:53:02 +0200 Subject: [Users] Absolutely OT: Red "S" in message Status field In-Reply-To: <20160403234909.00869ef6@sepulchrave.remarqs> References: <20160331103054.3aa9a8f8.jeremy@smartpoint.co.nz> <20160331100004.1e0bd55c@lilith> <20160331102031.554a3803@utnubu> <20160331105509.7deb7bc4@lilith> <20160401184823.541b3f7b@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160402103808.51198378@kujata> <20160402192725.244a6bac@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160403100902.4333804a.edodd55@gmail.com> <20160403103001.1f401588@utnubu> <20160403145122.3de3667a@sepulchrave.remarqs> <1459720636.777.8.camel@zoho.com> <20160403234909.00869ef6@sepulchrave.remarqs> Message-ID: <20160404075302.503d7684@Erik-PC.epolan.dk> On 2016-04-03 at 23:49:09 »Q« wrote: > On Sun, 03 Apr 2016 23:57:16 +0200 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Sun, 2016-04-03 at 14:51 -0500, »Q« wrote: > > > In case it's important to weigh in, IMO Steve and Liz are > > > right > > > So you suggest we next time should focus on assumptions, instead > > of obviously good reports from original posters? > > Not at all, but I do I hope people here won't be deterred from the > kind of good troubleshooting they were talking about by your > ridiculous (IMO, natch) pushback against it. I thought I said that > before, and I think you're intentionally misconstruing whatever's > said about it. > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users Enough! -- Erik From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 4 09:32:12 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 08:32:12 +0100 Subject: [Users] Absolutely OT: Red "S" in message Status field In-Reply-To: <20160404000805.11ca5aca@sepulchrave.remarqs> References: <20160331103054.3aa9a8f8.jeremy@smartpoint.co.nz> <20160331100004.1e0bd55c@lilith> <20160331102031.554a3803@utnubu> <20160331105509.7deb7bc4@lilith> <20160401184823.541b3f7b@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160402103808.51198378@kujata> <20160402192725.244a6bac@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160403100902.4333804a.edodd55@gmail.com> <20160403103001.1f401588@utnubu> <20160403145122.3de3667a@sepulchrave.remarqs> <20160403225738.6b4f8f27@kujata> <20160404000805.11ca5aca@sepulchrave.remarqs> Message-ID: <20160404083212.65cabc43@kujata> On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 00:08:05 -0500 »Q« wrote: > And yet you have, multiple times. I am the mailing list administrator, so that gives me a responsibility and, yes, that means I can write multiple times if I think I need to. > Is it that only people who agree > with you should weigh in? Since my point all along, both directly and indirectly, was to drop the off-topic chit-chat, then those who agree with me would be the ones not weighing in, right? :) > > > IMO Steve and Liz are right, > > > > What are they right about in their hypothetical theorising? > > I've just been informed that it's important for me *not* to weigh > in, so I'm in a bit of a quandary about whether you want me to > respond to your arguments or not. But I think you've misunderstood > what I was talking about anyway; see below. > > > Michael had already solved the problem before either Steve or Liz > > responded. And that's right?!? > > This digression about what's is or isn't good troubleshooting > happened because of Ralf's unwarranted griping; Steve and Liz were > responding downthread from Ralf, not responding to the OP's issue. It is these off-topic digressions which have no place here, along with the other items I listed previously. with regards Paul From silver.bullet at zoho.com Mon Apr 4 10:33:29 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 10:33:29 +0200 Subject: [Users] Absolutely OT: Red "S" in message Status field In-Reply-To: <20160404000805.11ca5aca@sepulchrave.remarqs> References: <20160331103054.3aa9a8f8.jeremy@smartpoint.co.nz> <20160331100004.1e0bd55c@lilith> <20160331102031.554a3803@utnubu> <20160331105509.7deb7bc4@lilith> <20160401184823.541b3f7b@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160402103808.51198378@kujata> <20160402192725.244a6bac@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160403100902.4333804a.edodd55@gmail.com> <20160403103001.1f401588@utnubu> <20160403145122.3de3667a@sepulchrave.remarqs> <20160403225738.6b4f8f27@kujata> <20160404000805.11ca5aca@sepulchrave.remarqs> Message-ID: <20160404103329.441fa940@utnubu> On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 00:08:05 -0500, »Q« wrote: >This digression about what's is or isn't good troubleshooting happened >because of Ralf's unwarranted griping; Steve and Liz were responding >downthread from Ralf, not responding to the OP's issue. That's untrue! The first mail of the thread: http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2016-March/016100.html The OP describes, that he has got an issue with the "message Status field". The second mail of the thread: http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2016-March/016101.html Albert asked "In which column does the "S" circle appear?" and that "If in the message subject column", it could be an issue related to Unicode, since he "personally see more and more subjects with fancy (and less fancy) Unicode characters." The third mail of the thread: http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2016-March/016103.html I explained that he misunderstood the OP, that the OP already mentioned, that it is an issue with the "message Status field". I did this to ensure, that troubleshooting is done regarding the reported issue and not regarding something completely unrelated. IOW your claim is absolutely grotesque. Regards, Ralf From ricardo at mones.org Mon Apr 4 13:30:42 2016 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 13:30:42 +0200 Subject: [Users] {Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date In-Reply-To: <20160404032326.6d088ad8@utnubu> References: <570014AA.8090201@tesco.net> <20160402232203.3ecf4b21@chris-HP> <20160403003825.5c478805@utnubu> <20160403220232.42dfb673@busgosu> <20160403234014.75377245@utnubu> <20160404022820.00c7374a@busgosu> <20160404032326.6d088ad8@utnubu> Message-ID: <20160404113042.GB30374@busgosu.mones.org> On Mon, Apr 04, 2016 at 03:23:26AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 02:28:20 +0200, Ricardo Mones wrote: > >Building is done with just one command > > Nonsense, it's not possible to build a Debian package by just running a > single command, you need to write a rules and control file. Ah, so you said building a package but meant debianising an upstream... yep, that's different, though not much different from writting the variables and functions of a PKGBUILD file, aren't they? :) > >That's not explaining why Claws Mail documentation is missing from > >Arch packages. > > If you noticed it and assumed you are missing it for the Arch packages, > then why didn't you file a bug report? > > I did it for you: > > https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/48804 Thanks, answering your question: I waste already enough time with Debian bugs and Claws Mail bugs, I leave other distros to other people ;-) regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ 00:45 < hammar> cool.. have you used rssyl? 00:46 <@Ticho> um, yes Seen on #sylpheed -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From boxcars at gmx.net Mon Apr 4 18:20:49 2016 From: boxcars at gmx.net (=?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?=) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 11:20:49 -0500 Subject: [Users] Absolutely OT: Red "S" in message Status field References: <20160331103054.3aa9a8f8.jeremy@smartpoint.co.nz> <20160331100004.1e0bd55c@lilith> <20160331102031.554a3803@utnubu> <20160331105509.7deb7bc4@lilith> <20160401184823.541b3f7b@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160402103808.51198378@kujata> <20160402192725.244a6bac@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160403100902.4333804a.edodd55@gmail.com> <20160403103001.1f401588@utnubu> <20160403145122.3de3667a@sepulchrave.remarqs> <20160403225738.6b4f8f27@kujata> <20160404000805.11ca5aca@sepulchrave.remarqs> <20160404103329.441fa940@utnubu> Message-ID: <20160404112049.2cc03820@sepulchrave.remarqs> On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 10:33:29 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 00:08:05 -0500, »Q« wrote: > >This digression about what's is or isn't good troubleshooting > >happened because of Ralf's unwarranted griping; Steve and Liz were > >responding downthread from Ralf, not responding to the OP's issue. > > That's untrue! > > The first mail of the thread: I've read the whole thing a few times and stand by what you said was untrue. From boxcars at gmx.net Mon Apr 4 18:30:15 2016 From: boxcars at gmx.net (=?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?=) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 11:30:15 -0500 Subject: [Users] Absolutely OT: Red "S" in message Status field References: <20160331103054.3aa9a8f8.jeremy@smartpoint.co.nz> <20160331100004.1e0bd55c@lilith> <20160331102031.554a3803@utnubu> <20160331105509.7deb7bc4@lilith> <20160401184823.541b3f7b@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160402103808.51198378@kujata> <20160402192725.244a6bac@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160403100902.4333804a.edodd55@gmail.com> <20160403103001.1f401588@utnubu> <20160403145122.3de3667a@sepulchrave.remarqs> <20160403225738.6b4f8f27@kujata> <20160404000805.11ca5aca@sepulchrave.remarqs> <20160404083212.65cabc43@kujata> Message-ID: <20160404113015.1a1be695@sepulchrave.remarqs> On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 08:32:12 +0100 Paul wrote: > On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 00:08:05 -0500 > »Q« wrote: > > > And yet you have, multiple times. > > I am the mailing list administrator, so that gives me a > responsibility and, yes, that means I can write multiple times if I > think I need to. > It is these off-topic digressions which have no place here, along > with the other items I listed previously. If this is the case, I respectfully suggest you handle anything like this that comes up in the future by just saying "cut out the off-topic" digression; in this case, you also took part in the digression itself, which I erroneously believed meant you didn't mind people taking part in it. My apologies to all for the noise. This is a great list, and I'm grateful for it. (FWIW, the mailman interface still has Colin as administrator.) From subscript at free.fr Mon Apr 4 18:38:53 2016 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 18:38:53 +0200 Subject: [Users] Absolutely OT: Red "S" in message Status field In-Reply-To: <20160404112049.2cc03820@sepulchrave.remarqs> References: <20160331103054.3aa9a8f8.jeremy@smartpoint.co.nz> <20160331100004.1e0bd55c@lilith> <20160331102031.554a3803@utnubu> <20160331105509.7deb7bc4@lilith> <20160401184823.541b3f7b@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160402103808.51198378@kujata> <20160402192725.244a6bac@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160403100902.4333804a.edodd55@gmail.com> <20160403103001.1f401588@utnubu> <20160403145122.3de3667a@sepulchrave.remarqs> <20160403225738.6b4f8f27@kujata> <20160404000805.11ca5aca@sepulchrave.remarqs> <20160404103329.441fa940@utnubu> <20160404112049.2cc03820@sepulchrave.remarqs> Message-ID: <20160404183853.7cf78415@anthra> Hello »Q«, On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 11:20:49 -0500 »Q« wrote: > On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 10:33:29 +0200 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 00:08:05 -0500, »Q« wrote: > > >This digression about what's is or isn't good troubleshooting > > >happened because of Ralf's unwarranted griping; Steve and Liz were > > >responding downthread from Ralf, not responding to the OP's issue. > > > > That's untrue! > > > > The first mail of the thread: > > I've read the whole thing a few times and stand by what you said was > untrue. Wonderful. Now please, save us the reading of further emails in that thread by continuing privately if you want, the subject turned to be OT and the way if develops is useless. Thanks! :-) Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From wa178492 at tesco.net Mon Apr 4 22:04:56 2016 From: wa178492 at tesco.net (GM) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 21:04:56 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date Message-ID: <5702C8E8.4070205@tesco.net> First of all, many thanks to those who responded to my post. I have to say that Ralf's instructions look comprehensive but (for this user) seem rather complex. Is there any chance, please, of a more detailed step-by-step set of instructions? There are users (often refugees from MS Windows) who have not the confidence to build things for themselves and who would welcome that extra helping hand. And what are the chances of an updated ppa? That would make more detailed instructions a little less urgent. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From r.brusa at gmx.ch Mon Apr 4 22:39:17 2016 From: r.brusa at gmx.ch (Roman Brusa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 22:39:17 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date In-Reply-To: <5702C8E8.4070205@tesco.net> References: <5702C8E8.4070205@tesco.net> Message-ID: <20160404223917.4c18a745@rbits.ch> GM schrieb am Mon, 4 Apr 2016 21:04:56 +0100: >First of all, many thanks to those who responded to my post. > >I have to say that Ralf's instructions look comprehensive but (for >this user) seem rather complex. Is there any chance, please, of a more >detailed step-by-step set of instructions? There are users (often >refugees from MS Windows) who have not the confidence to build things >for themselves and who would welcome that extra helping hand. > >And what are the chances of an updated ppa? That would make more >detailed instructions a little less urgent. +1 Roman -- The most common lie is that which one lies to himself; lying to others is relatively an exception. - Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From barry at python.org Tue Apr 5 00:39:28 2016 From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 18:39:28 -0400 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date References: <5702C8E8.4070205@tesco.net> Message-ID: <20160404183928.20db82c7@anarchist.wooz.org> On Apr 04, 2016, at 09:04 PM, GM wrote: >And what are the chances of an updated ppa? I don't know about the PPA, but I'll look at merging and updating CM for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. Given that we're past final beta freeze and 10 days out from final freeze, all package uploads have to be approved by the archive admins, so it's not certain we'll get 3.13.2 into Xenial even if the merge goes smoothly. In the future, do feel free to ping me, or to file a bug on Launchpad when a sync is needed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/claws-mail I read this mailing list via Gmane and sometimes fall behind. I don't always notice that a merge is necessary, but now I'm subscribed to bug-mail for the package in Ubuntu so filing a bug should be enough to get my attention. CM is my main MUA on Ubuntu, and I'm an Ubuntu core-dev, so I'm motivated and able to help keep it up-to-date. It's unfortunate that Ubuntu carries some deltas over Debian because it means that we can't even sync it automatically when the Ubuntu archive is open for Debian syncs. Maybe Ricardo and I can figure out a way to get the Ubuntu changes into Debian (I'm also a DD) so that the distros will stay in sync automatically, modulo release freezes. Cheers, -Barry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Apr 5 00:42:20 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2016 22:42:20 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3630 --- Comment #5 from Barry Warsaw --- I am going to try to get a sync/merge from Debian into Ubuntu 16.04 but no promises! If the merge goes smoothly, it'll still have to go through the Ubuntu archive admins due to being past beta freeze. See my follow up on the mailing list for details. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Apr 5 00:55:09 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2016 22:55:09 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3600] make next_on_delete work for Move To Trash In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3600 --- Comment #3 from Barry Warsaw --- Just wondering what you think about this patch. I've been using it since I posted it here and it fixes the problem for me perfectly. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From ricardo at mones.org Tue Apr 5 01:40:18 2016 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 01:40:18 +0200 Subject: [Users] Ubuntu deltas with Debian (was: Re: [Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date) In-Reply-To: <20160404183928.20db82c7@anarchist.wooz.org> References: <5702C8E8.4070205@tesco.net> <20160404183928.20db82c7@anarchist.wooz.org> Message-ID: <20160405014018.77acdf74@busgosu> On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 18:39:28 -0400 Barry Warsaw wrote: […] > It's unfortunate that Ubuntu carries some deltas over Debian because > it means that we can't even sync it automatically when the Ubuntu > archive is open for Debian syncs. Maybe Ricardo and I can figure out > a way to get the Ubuntu changes into Debian (I'm also a DD) so that > the distros will stay in sync automatically, modulo release freezes. AFAICS one of the deltas is a feature switch I cannot have in Debian¹, so I can hardly apply this one. If it's applied upstream it's OK, as long as it builds fine in non-ubuntu systems (which I suspect has never been tested), otherwise I would have to apply another patch in Debian to fix or remove it... so, still a delta, nothing gained :) but I guess we can sort it before reaching that point. The other delta is of switching to autoreconf seems good to me, if doesn't break anything. Feel free to bugreport claws-mail package so I don't forget for next release. best regards, ¹ http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/wily/claws-mail/wily/view/head:/debian/patches/deprecate_libindicate.patch -- Ricardo Mones ~ Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Carl Sagan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So what I'd like if the number of addresses in a reply field is greater than a settable threshold is to be prompted about whether or not to add all. 2. in tools -> address book there are several sources shown. I don't understand the rationale for those names or their functions. Can someone please refer me to the docs? I don't see it. Many thanks, Dave -- I want to die peacefully, smiling in my sleep, like my Grampa, not screaming in terror like his passengers! From silver.bullet at zoho.com Tue Apr 5 07:06:13 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 07:06:13 +0200 Subject: [Users] address book desiderata In-Reply-To: <20160404213237.7baf818a@user-Satellite-A100> References: <20160404213237.7baf818a@user-Satellite-A100> Message-ID: <20160405070613.3c31bf1b@utnubu> I arranged my address book in a way, that new addresses aren't mixed with addresses I already collected, so I can select what addresses I want to delete and what adresses I want to add to my collection [1]. Sylpheed by default separates "auto-registered" addresses [2]. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: claws_address_book.png Type: image/png Size: 32928 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Apr 5 08:58:50 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2016 06:58:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3600] make next_on_delete work for Move To Trash In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3600 --- Comment #4 from Paul --- This selection after move/delete will be addressed before the next release. Your patch just ignores the option and that is not wanted. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Apr 5 09:55:03 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 08:55:03 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date In-Reply-To: <20160404183928.20db82c7@anarchist.wooz.org> References: <5702C8E8.4070205@tesco.net> <20160404183928.20db82c7@anarchist.wooz.org> Message-ID: <20160405085503.12dd04cc@kujata> On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 18:39:28 -0400 Barry Warsaw wrote: > I read this mailing list via Gmane and sometimes fall behind. I > don't always notice that a merge is necessary, but now I'm > subscribed to bug-mail for the package in Ubuntu so filing a bug > should be enough to get my attention. You could subscribe to the release announcement RSS feed, perhaps. http://www.claws-mail.org/releases.rss with regards Paul From ricardo at mones.org Tue Apr 5 10:00:37 2016 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 10:00:37 +0200 Subject: [Users] Overriding signature, In-Reply-To: <20160403091958.0b674cf7@kujata> References: <20160402203108.2ee3a27f@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160403091958.0b674cf7@kujata> Message-ID: <20160405080037.GD30374@busgosu.mones.org> On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 09:19:58AM +0100, Paul wrote: > On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 20:31:08 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > […] > > == Whose business shall never be mentioned on the Claws-Mail List == > > There's no need to sulk. No one will mind you putting your URL in > your signature. It's not being sulk, just promoting with reverse psychology :) Notice also the phrase is plainly false, since it's mentioning his business, just not telling which one is ;) -- Ricardo Mones ~ Datei nicht gefunden Fehler 404 From freebsd at grem.de Tue Apr 5 11:46:54 2016 From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 11:46:54 +0200 Subject: [Users] Clwas GIT - Automatic Account Selection on compose not working / behaviour changed Message-ID: <20160405114654.4dcbc200@bsd64.grem.de> Hi, Claws GIT always uses the account selected in the lower right corner when composing messages. Before it would use the sender address of the currently selected folder, which I find to be a lot more useful. Seems like this is the change in question, what is the rational for this change? commit e7308b6264bf5d3d27c3f8270356b001ab4731c4 Author: Paul Date: Tue Feb 2 13:06:03 2016 +0000 fix Compose account selection when imap folder is selected don't just select the imap account, ignoring default account et al diff --git a/src/toolbar.c b/src/toolbar.c index 0291f20..e7a553e 100644 --- a/src/toolbar.c +++ b/src/toolbar.c @@ -2664,7 +2664,7 @@ void compose_mail_cb(gpointer data, guint action, GtkWidget *widget) if (item) { ac = account_find_from_item(item); - if (ac && ac->protocol != A_NNTP) { + if (ac && ac->protocol != A_NNTP && ac->protocol != A_IMAP4) { compose_new_with_folderitem(ac, item, NULL); /* CLAWS */ return; } - Michael -- Michael Gmelin From andrej at kacian.sk Tue Apr 5 12:41:25 2016 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 12:41:25 +0200 Subject: [Users] Clwas GIT - Automatic Account Selection on compose not working / behaviour changed In-Reply-To: <20160405114654.4dcbc200@bsd64.grem.de> References: <20160405114654.4dcbc200@bsd64.grem.de> Message-ID: <20160405124125.74030433@hiker> On Tue, 5 Apr 2016 11:46:54 +0200 Michael Gmelin wrote: > Claws GIT always uses the account selected in the lower right corner > when composing messages. Before it would use the sender address of the > currently selected folder, which I find to be a lot more useful. > > Seems like this is the change in question, what is the rational for > this change? > > commit e7308b6264bf5d3d27c3f8270356b001ab4731c4 > Author: Paul > Date: Tue Feb 2 13:06:03 2016 +0000 > > fix Compose account selection when imap folder is selected > > don't just select the imap account, ignoring default account et al AFAIK it was to honor global "default account" setting. To override it, you can set a correct "default account" for your IMAP folder tree. You can do it comfortably for the entire folder tree in folder properties of your IMAP root folder (Compose page) and enable "Apply to subfolders". Regards, -- Andrej From freebsd at grem.de Tue Apr 5 13:12:48 2016 From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 13:12:48 +0200 Subject: [Users] Clwas GIT - Automatic Account Selection on compose not working / behaviour changed In-Reply-To: <20160405124125.74030433@hiker> References: <20160405114654.4dcbc200@bsd64.grem.de> <20160405124125.74030433@hiker> Message-ID: <20160405131248.2830339d@bsd64.grem.de> On Tue, 5 Apr 2016 12:41:25 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Tue, 5 Apr 2016 11:46:54 +0200 > Michael Gmelin wrote: > > > Claws GIT always uses the account selected in the lower right corner > > when composing messages. Before it would use the sender address of > > the currently selected folder, which I find to be a lot more useful. > > > > Seems like this is the change in question, what is the rational for > > this change? > > > > commit e7308b6264bf5d3d27c3f8270356b001ab4731c4 > > Author: Paul > > Date: Tue Feb 2 13:06:03 2016 +0000 > > > > fix Compose account selection when imap folder is selected > > > > don't just select the imap account, ignoring default account et > > al > > AFAIK it was to honor global "default account" setting. > > To override it, you can set a correct "default account" for your IMAP > folder tree. You can do it comfortably for the entire folder tree in > folder properties of your IMAP root folder (Compose page) and enable > "Apply to subfolders". > Very useful information, thank you! - Michael -- Michael Gmelin From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Apr 5 14:56:04 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2016 12:56:04 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2262] Frequent occurrences of "Could not queue message for sending" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2262 --- Comment #7 from NeedMoreCoffee --- Same problem. The moment I add an attachment to the mail, I can't send it because of this error. Version 3.13.2 on Windows 7 x64. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Apr 5 15:45:28 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2016 13:45:28 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2262] Frequent occurrences of "Could not queue message for sending" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2262 --- Comment #8 from Andrej Kacian --- How does network log (look in Tools menu) from such a send attempt look like? Odds are there won't be anything useful, but for the sake of completeness, let's see it. Also, have you reported this bug to libetpan developer? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From barry at python.org Tue Apr 5 22:52:26 2016 From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 16:52:26 -0400 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date References: <5702C8E8.4070205@tesco.net> <20160404183928.20db82c7@anarchist.wooz.org> Message-ID: <20160405165226.281cfc0a@anarchist.wooz.org> On Apr 04, 2016, at 06:39 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: >Given that we're past final beta freeze and 10 days out from final freeze, >all package uploads have to be approved by the archive admins, so it's not >certain we'll get 3.13.2 into Xenial even if the merge goes smoothly. The merge went smoothly and was approved by the archive admins so Ubuntu 16.04 will have CM 3.13.2. Thanks Ricardo, after 16.04 is released I'll spend a little time looking into reducing our delta. Cheers, -Barry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It would be very useful if I could edit them. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From ricardo at mones.org Wed Apr 6 01:45:49 2016 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 01:45:49 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3630] Ubuntu PPA very much out of date In-Reply-To: <20160405165226.281cfc0a@anarchist.wooz.org> References: <5702C8E8.4070205@tesco.net> <20160404183928.20db82c7@anarchist.wooz.org> <20160405165226.281cfc0a@anarchist.wooz.org> Message-ID: <20160406014549.06e0c9b4@busgosu> On Tue, 5 Apr 2016 16:52:26 -0400 Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Apr 04, 2016, at 06:39 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > >>Given that we're past final beta freeze and 10 days out from final freeze, >>all package uploads have to be approved by the archive admins, so it's not >>certain we'll get 3.13.2 into Xenial even if the merge goes smoothly. > > The merge went smoothly and was approved by the archive admins so Ubuntu > 16.04 will have CM 3.13.2. Nice, thanks. > Thanks Ricardo, after 16.04 is released I'll spend a little time looking > into reducing our delta. Sure, no problem. regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ The three principal virtues of a programmer are Laziness, Impatience, and Hubris. man perl -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Apr 6 11:38:22 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 09:38:22 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3634] New: Automatic account selection on compose is broken Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3634 Bug ID: 3634 Summary: Automatic account selection on compose is broken Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Compose Window Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: kae at midnighthax.com Sometime in the last couple of months (sorry for the vagueness), Claws auto account selection on compose broke. I've just tested the current git version with a virginal config file, and the problem still exists. It always defaults to the first (of two, in my case) account listed. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Apr 6 11:43:01 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 09:43:01 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3634] Automatic account selection on compose is broken In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3634 --- Comment #1 from Michael Gmelin --- I just raised that question on the list recently. Compose now also uses the account selected in the lower right corner of the Claws window. You can configure a default compose account per folder though by right-clicking a folder, selecting "Properties..." for the context menu, switch to tab "Compose" and then select a default account in there. See also: http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2016-April/016193.html -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Apr 6 11:48:33 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 09:48:33 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3634] Automatic account selection on compose is broken In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3634 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From slitt at troubleshooters.com Wed Apr 6 18:05:45 2016 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 12:05:45 -0400 Subject: [Users] Overriding signature, In-Reply-To: <20160403091958.0b674cf7@kujata> References: <20160402203108.2ee3a27f@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160403091958.0b674cf7@kujata> Message-ID: <20160406120545.29ff7db7@mydesk.domain.cxm> On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 09:19:58 +0100, Paul wrote: > On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 20:31:08 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > I have a signature file that's useful for 90% of my email folders. > > The file is named in Account Preferences->Compose, as I remember. > > > > But on the other 10%, the folders have their own templates. On those > > 10%, I'd enjoy it if the signature file didn't print below the > > template. Is there any way to do that? > > Instead of using the signature options on the Compose page, add your > signature using a template. Then your folder template will override > that. Trying to override an account-wide template with specific templates turned out to be risky business, because the account-wide template actually writes to the sub-folder templates if the "apply to subfolders" checkbox is checked. Sometimes it leaves preexisting templates alone, but sometimes it strongarms them to the account-wide. In other words, it's not an override, it's an overwrite. Due to lack of time and out of respect for my data, I didn't experiment enough to deduce the exact conditions that made the difference between the global overwriting the subfolders and the global respecting preexisting subfolder templates. Luckily, I backed up /home/slitt/.claws-mail before doing the account-wide templating, so I simply restored ~/.claws-mail, rebuilt the folder tree, and went on my way. Anyway, if anyone is thinking of implementing account-wide templates, I'd strongly urge you to back up ~/.claws-mail before doing so, and keep backing it up often. I've gone back to just remembering to delete the sig on folders having templates. SteveT Steve Litt == Whose business shall never be mentioned on the Claws-Mail List == From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Apr 6 18:23:41 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 17:23:41 +0100 Subject: [Users] Overriding signature, In-Reply-To: <20160406120545.29ff7db7@mydesk.domain.cxm> References: <20160402203108.2ee3a27f@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20160403091958.0b674cf7@kujata> <20160406120545.29ff7db7@mydesk.domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20160406172341.6b10c10b@kujata> On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 12:05:45 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Trying to override an account-wide template with specific templates > turned out to be risky business, because the account-wide template > actually writes to the sub-folder templates if the "apply to > subfolders" checkbox is checked. The 'apply to subfolders' checkbox only appears in the folder properties templates page, and it doesn't stay on once it is used. So the account templates have no relation to the 'apply to subfolders' checkbox at all. So it can't happen like you describe. > In other words, it's not an override, it's an overwrite. It's the folder properties template which overrides the account template, not the other way around. with regards Paul From lists.o at la-familia-grande.de Thu Apr 7 06:07:20 2016 From: lists.o at la-familia-grande.de (Oliver =?UTF-8?B?TWVpw59uZXI=?=) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 06:07:20 +0200 Subject: [Users] LDAP Server In-Reply-To: <20160330105434.00002e89@seibercom.net> References: <20160330105434.00002e89@seibercom.net> Message-ID: <20160407060720.321ad304@osiris.olly.local> Hi Jerry, Am Wed, 30 Mar 2016 10:54:34 -0400 schrieb Jerry : > I have a small network. OpenLDAP, along with Apache24 are running on > one PC. Now, if I configure an LDAP server in the address book, and > give it the numerical IP of the LDAP server, "192.168.1.101" > everything works fine. However, if I give it the actual web address, > "MyWebSite.net" it fails to connect. Even if I give it the actual web > address of the site, it still fails. Only the local IP address works. > > I hope I am explaining this correctly. Does anyone have any ideas? > Does it connect if you give the remote ip of "MySite.net"? If this works, check your /etc/hosts and dns configuration. In this case $ host your-ldap-server.mysite.net would be your friend to identify the problem. Cheers -- GnuPG-Fingerprint: 31F8 1667 712C ED9E EDDC 42D2 EC82 8304 92E2 7B15 http://www.la-familia-grande.de/keys/92e27b15.txt From h.mth at web.de Thu Apr 7 10:39:25 2016 From: h.mth at web.de (Hanno Meyer-Thurow) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 10:39:25 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail - Message List - Focus next message in list after delete Message-ID: <20160407103925.66e8adfb@amari.home> Hi list! At some point, I think it was version 3.12.0, the very cool feature, which I used frequently, was removed: Focus next message in message list after delete So whenever I get my dose of spam mails, fetching mails in the morning and evening, I just pressed 'delete' key as many times as spam mails were there. Now, I have to press 'delete' key, then 'arrow down' key and repeat as many times as spam mails are there. That is quite annoying. Was that change intended? Is there a commit which I may look at to undo this change? Kind regards --- Hanno Meyer-Thurow Software Entwickler/Software engineer Dipl.-Ing. IT (FH)/University of applied sciences From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Apr 7 10:51:53 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 09:51:53 +0100 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail - Message List - Focus next message in list after delete In-Reply-To: <20160407103925.66e8adfb@amari.home> References: <20160407103925.66e8adfb@amari.home> Message-ID: <20160407095153.12835b11@kujata> On Thu, 7 Apr 2016 10:39:25 +0200 Hanno Meyer-Thurow wrote: > Was that change intended? Yes, it was. And announced. You want to change the hidden pref next_on_delete. And since then there has been a discussion and a bug item, and probably more. Therefore this will be revisited before the next release, in order to make the next selection consistent for move and delete. with regards Paul From linux at slavino.sk Thu Apr 7 14:43:06 2016 From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 14:43:06 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail - Message List - Focus next message in list after delete In-Reply-To: <20160407095153.12835b11@kujata> References: <20160407103925.66e8adfb@amari.home> <20160407095153.12835b11@kujata> Message-ID: <20160407144306.4fcd1a9e@bonifac.skk> Ahoj, Dňa Thu, 7 Apr 2016 09:51:53 +0100 Paul napísal: > On Thu, 7 Apr 2016 10:39:25 +0200 > Hanno Meyer-Thurow wrote: > > > Was that change intended? > > And since then there has been a discussion and a bug item, and > probably more. Therefore this will be revisited before the next > release, in order to make the next selection consistent for move and > delete. thanks for this! -- Slavko http://slavino.sk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 455 bytes Desc: Digitálny podpis OpenPGP URL: From barry at python.org Fri Apr 8 00:16:55 2016 From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 18:16:55 -0400 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail - Message List - Focus next message in list after delete References: <20160407103925.66e8adfb@amari.home> <20160407095153.12835b11@kujata> Message-ID: <20160407181655.325be6aa@anarchist.wooz.org> On Apr 07, 2016, at 09:51 AM, Paul wrote: >And since then there has been a discussion and a bug item, and >probably more. Therefore this will be revisited before the next >release, in order to make the next selection consistent for move and >delete. 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This is, to say the least, disconcerting. The attached screenshot illustrates the issue: note that the selected message has 'DC Academic Committee' as subject and is dated 1/2/2014. However, the message shown (after clicking on the 'DC Academic Committee' line in the summary view) is dated 2016 and has the subject "Men's Performance...". Clicking on other messages (only in this folder) produces similar discordant results. If I use mutt to open the 'Xdeals' folder, the 'DC Academic Committee' message isn't even present in the folder (nor are a number of other messages). I encountered this issue with version 3.13.2 (debian 3.13.2-1); the current development (git) version exhibits the same issue. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 8 08:51:51 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2016 06:51:51 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3635] mismatch between one-line summary and actual message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3635 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Paul --- Go to /Configuration/Preferences/Display/Summaries, and set the 'Open message when selected' option to 'Always'. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 8 08:52:55 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2016 06:52:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3635] mismatch between one-line summary and actual message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3635 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID |--- --- Comment #2 from Paul --- (In reply to comment #1) > Go to /Configuration/Preferences/Display/Summaries, and set the 'Open > message when selected' option to 'Always'. Hmmm, perhaps I answered too quickly here... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 8 08:54:22 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2016 06:54:22 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3635] mismatch between one-line summary and actual message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3635 --- Comment #3 from Paul --- Right-click the folder, select 'Properties', and then click the 'Discard folder cache' button. It appears that the cache has become corrupted. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From jerry at seibercom.net Fri Apr 8 12:14:02 2016 From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 06:14:02 -0400 Subject: [Users] Attaching files from different computer Message-ID: <20160408061402.000031b9@seibercom.net> I am not sure if this is possible or not. I can do it from MS Outlook, but cannot find a way with claws-mail. I am running claws-mail on a Windows 10 Pro /64 machine. I have a FreeBSD-11 computer also on the network. I want to be able to attach files located on the FreeBSD machine to mail I send from my Windows based installation of claws-mail. I cannot find a way to do it. Even typing in the network path manually fails. CM does not even display the 'network" in the search list. MS Outlook can accomplish this, so I know it is possible. Can CM accomplish this also? Thanks -- Jerry From andrej at kacian.sk Fri Apr 8 12:31:03 2016 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 12:31:03 +0200 Subject: [Users] Attaching files from different computer In-Reply-To: <20160408061402.000031b9@seibercom.net> References: <20160408061402.000031b9@seibercom.net> Message-ID: <20160408123103.6c6ee1ca@hiker> On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 06:14:02 -0400 Jerry wrote: > I am not sure if this is possible or not. I can do it from MS Outlook, > but cannot find a way with claws-mail. > > I am running claws-mail on a Windows 10 Pro /64 machine. I have a > FreeBSD-11 computer also on the network. I want to be able to attach > files located on the FreeBSD machine to mail I send from my Windows > based installation of claws-mail. I cannot find a way to do it. Even > typing in the network path manually fails. CM does not even display > the 'network" in the search list. > > MS Outlook can accomplish this, so I know it is possible. Can CM > accomplish this also? Hi, this works for me on Windows 7 when I type "\\server\share\" in the location bar first - the view will switch to that share, and I can navigate to file I want to attach. It doesn't work without the trailing "\", as I found out. perhaps that's why it didn't work for you. Claws Mail is using file open dialog provided by GTK+, which doesn't offer something like "My Network". Unfortunately it is not easily possible to use a native Windows file open dialog. HTH, -- Andrej From jerry at seibercom.net Fri Apr 8 13:22:59 2016 From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 07:22:59 -0400 Subject: [Users] Attaching files from different computer In-Reply-To: <20160408123103.6c6ee1ca@hiker> References: <20160408061402.000031b9@seibercom.net> <20160408123103.6c6ee1ca@hiker> Message-ID: <20160408072259.00002955@seibercom.net> On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 12:31:03 +0200, Andrej Kacian stated: >On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 06:14:02 -0400 >Jerry wrote: > >> I am not sure if this is possible or not. I can do it from MS >> Outlook, but cannot find a way with claws-mail. >> >> I am running claws-mail on a Windows 10 Pro /64 machine. I have a >> FreeBSD-11 computer also on the network. I want to be able to attach >> files located on the FreeBSD machine to mail I send from my Windows >> based installation of claws-mail. I cannot find a way to do it. Even >> typing in the network path manually fails. CM does not even display >> the 'network" in the search list. >> >> MS Outlook can accomplish this, so I know it is possible. Can CM >> accomplish this also? > >Hi, this works for me on Windows 7 when I type "\\server\share\" in the >location bar first - the view will switch to that share, and I can >navigate to file I want to attach. > >It doesn't work without the trailing "\", as I found out. perhaps >that's why it didn't work for you. > >Claws Mail is using file open dialog provided by GTK+, >which doesn't offer something like "My Network". Unfortunately it is >not easily possible to use a native Windows file open dialog. > >HTH, I tried that, but it produced an error pop-up window: ********************************************************************** COULD NOT START THE SEARCH PROCESS The program was not able to create a connection to the indexer daemon. Please make sure it is running. ********************************************************************** I am not sure what it is referring to. -- Jerry From andrej at kacian.sk Fri Apr 8 13:36:56 2016 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 13:36:56 +0200 Subject: [Users] Attaching files from different computer In-Reply-To: <20160408072259.00002955@seibercom.net> References: <20160408061402.000031b9@seibercom.net> <20160408123103.6c6ee1ca@hiker> <20160408072259.00002955@seibercom.net> Message-ID: <20160408133656.7d07d351@hiker> On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 07:22:59 -0400 Jerry wrote: > I tried that, but it produced an error pop-up window: > > ********************************************************************** > COULD NOT START THE SEARCH PROCESS > > The program was not able to create a connection to the indexer daemon. > Please make sure it is running. > ********************************************************************** > > I am not sure what it is referring to. I have no idea either, sorry. Possibly some Win10 thing that Win7 does not have. Regards, -- Andrej From jerry at seibercom.net Fri Apr 8 13:54:08 2016 From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 07:54:08 -0400 Subject: [Users] Attaching files from different computer In-Reply-To: <20160408133656.7d07d351@hiker> References: <20160408061402.000031b9@seibercom.net> <20160408123103.6c6ee1ca@hiker> <20160408072259.00002955@seibercom.net> <20160408133656.7d07d351@hiker> Message-ID: <20160408075408.00002fd2@seibercom.net> On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 13:36:56 +0200, Andrej Kacian stated: >I have no idea either, sorry. Possibly some Win10 thing that Win7 does >not have. Okay, I'll file a bug report against it. I doubt that anyone will do anything about it though. -- Jerry From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 8 16:43:48 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2016 14:43:48 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3635] mismatch between one-line summary and actual message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3635 D Thompson changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME --- Comment #4 from D Thompson --- Problem solved. I wasn't even aware of the caching mechanism and the ability to discard/refresh the cache. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From John at wexfordpress.com Fri Apr 8 16:18:42 2016 From: John at wexfordpress.com (John Culleton) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 10:18:42 -0400 Subject: [Users] Fw: Install bogofilter? Message-ID: <20160408101842.29ec3e15@simple.wexford> I use slackware 14.1. my computer died and I don't have everything backed up. Once again I have to reestablish bogofilter. I have downloaded the bz2 file. I need to bunzip2 this file somewhere. Suggestions? After that I need to connect it somehow to claws-mail. Suggestions? I understand that I need to run bogofilter periodically using cron. I used to have those routnes set up in cron.daily but that file wasn.t backed up. Any hints on all this would be welcome. If this is all spelled out in a howto then just point me to it. From silver.bullet at zoho.com Fri Apr 8 17:12:26 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 17:12:26 +0200 Subject: [Users] Fw: Install bogofilter? In-Reply-To: <20160408101842.29ec3e15@simple.wexford> References: <20160408101842.29ec3e15@simple.wexford> Message-ID: <20160408171226.2902c9e5@utnubu> On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 10:18:42 -0400, John Culleton wrote: >I use slackware 14.1. my computer died and I >don't have everything backed up. > >Once again I have to reestablish bogofilter. I >have downloaded the bz2 file. I need to bunzip2 >this file somewhere. Suggestions? > >After that I need to connect it somehow to >claws-mail. Suggestions? > >I understand that I need to run bogofilter >periodically using cron. I used to have those >routnes set up in cron.daily but that file wasn.t >backed up. > >Any hints on all this would be welcome. If this >is all spelled out in a howto then just point me >to it. What kind of quiz is this? What does the file contain? The software or a database? A users data base is located in $HOME/.bogofilter/. Claws automagically use this database, on my machine e.g. shares it with Evolution, if you install the plugin by the menu Configuration > Plugins, there;s nothing else to do. Bogofilter is trained manually, if you mark spam, it learns. For what would you like to run a cron job? From silver.bullet at zoho.com Fri Apr 8 17:26:57 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 17:26:57 +0200 Subject: [Users] Fw: Install bogofilter? In-Reply-To: <20160408171226.2902c9e5@utnubu> References: <20160408101842.29ec3e15@simple.wexford> <20160408171226.2902c9e5@utnubu> Message-ID: <20160408172657.72a76694@utnubu> On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 17:12:26 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >if you install the plugin by the menu Configuration > >Plugins, there;s nothing else to do. PS: My apologies, you perhaps want to check Configuration > Preferences... > Plugins > Bogofilter > Process messages on receiving. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 8 17:52:08 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2016 15:52:08 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3636] New: Link to open the attachment is sometimes missing Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3636 Bug ID: 3636 Summary: Link to open the attachment is sometimes missing Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.13.2 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Message View Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: fjanks at directbox.com Usually there is a link below the text to open or save the attachment. But for some emails this link is missing even though the symbol in the list shows that this mail has an attachment. It does not work for all mails which were sent from "Apple Mail", but I don't know whether this is the only email client with this problem. I looked into the source and compared it to other mails and what I found suspicious is the "Content-Disposition: inline;" in those mails from "Apple Mail" instead of "Content-Disposition: attachment;" in mails from other clients. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 8 17:56:24 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2016 15:56:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3636] Link to open the attachment is sometimes missing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3636 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WONTFIX -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From silver.bullet at zoho.com Fri Apr 8 18:58:10 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 18:58:10 +0200 Subject: [Users] Fw: Install bogofilter? In-Reply-To: <20160408101842.29ec3e15@simple.wexford> References: <20160408101842.29ec3e15@simple.wexford> Message-ID: <20160408185810.3f512f44@utnubu> After shopping I had some time, so I might be able to answer your questions now. Regarding the cron job I found https://calomel.org/bogofilter.htm. This is irrelevant for you, since you want to check against spam when retrieving mails. Taking a look at my Arch's bogofilter, I noticed that the software's tarball is a bz2. Assumed you want to know, what to do with the tarball: Apart from the tools to build, you need runtime and build dependencies: db, perl, gsl, sqlite, valgrind, xmlto The directory were to install is defined by "configure": ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc/bogofilter --localstatedir=/var --enable-transactions --with-database=db Optional add "--help" to the above list, or instead of "--prefix=/usr" install to "--prefix=/usr/local". I don't know why, perhaps a README does inform about this, but when building an Arch package, they run just make and in addition: BF_RUN_VALGRIND=1 make -k -C src check || /bin/true Perhaps because they attached a patch. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Apr 8 19:17:15 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2016 17:17:15 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3542] After moving a message to trash, claws selects the message above, not the one below In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3542 --- Comment #4 from mrccvrcc at gmail.com --- Hello, Just want to verify that this problem still exists in version 3.13.2. Also want to add that I've used many email programs over a many decades but claws-mail is the most efficient I've ever used. Kudos to the developers. Cheers ... Marek -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From slitt at troubleshooters.com Fri Apr 8 20:01:23 2016 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 14:01:23 -0400 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3635] mismatch between one-line summary and actual message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20160408140123.67ba0883@mydesk.domain.cxm> On Fri, 08 Apr 2016 14:43:48 +0000, noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3635 > > D Thompson changed: > > What |Removed |Added > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED > Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME > > --- Comment #4 from D Thompson --- > Problem solved. I wasn't even aware of the caching mechanism and the > ability to discard/refresh the cache. Hi all, I've been having this exact problem for years, and have tried to describe it a few times on this list. I can add a little more information, although all of it is subjective and maybe a little superstitious... This is an intermittent. When it happens to me, the subject and date you see in the message view are for one message, and the subject and date you see in the message list, for that message, are for a different message, but a message you've actually gotten: I think a message weeks or months old. Also, as I remember, this phenomenon usually happens to messages in a folder that is not my inbox, but the message list summary is for a message that would have been in my inbox. IE, everything To or Cc users at lists.claws-mail.org is already procmailed to my Claws-mail folder, but occasionally an email there will have a message-list summary advertising half-priced electronics at Johanson Electronics Center. Like D. Thompson, I use Claws as a window to an IMAP server. In my case, I have several thousand messages in each of probably 50 or 100 folders. Once this symptom starts to happen, it happens more and more and more until I "cleanse" it by right clicking the account and selecting "rebuild folder tree", which of course purges the caches for all folders in the account. After I do that, I get no *further* instances for at least a few weeks, although I can't tell you for sure whether it "heals" messages that already had bad information in the message list summary. My advise to anyone perceiving a message list summary not matching the displayed message (assuming you're display-always or you've properly clicked the message list item) is this: 1) Record the date/time/size/subject of the message list summary 2) Record the date/time/subject/folder of the message itself 3) Record the folder in which you found this message list summary and message 4) Record anything else you think might later be relevant. 5) Rebuild folder tree for account. This erases most/all components of the symptom, and prevents future occurrence for several weeks. SteveT Steve Litt == Whose business shall never be mentioned on the Claws-Mail List == From silver.bullet at zoho.com Fri Apr 8 21:01:35 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 21:01:35 +0200 Subject: [Users] Spell checking issue Message-ID: <20160408210135.5b5ff9be@utnubu> Hi, is anybody experiencing issues with hunspell-en and Claws, too? https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2016-April/041037.html https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2016-April/041038.html https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2016-April/041039.html I still suspect an issue with the Arch's hunspell-en package, https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/48839, but since another Arch mailing list subscriber doesn't experience this issue, it might be related to Claws and perhaps, because I'm using an en and de dictionary. Regards, Ralf From silver.bullet at zoho.com Fri Apr 8 21:01:35 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 21:01:35 +0200 Subject: [Users] Spell checking issue Message-ID: <20160408210135.5b5ff9be@utnubu> Hi, is anybody experiencing issues with hunspell-en and Claws, too? https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2016-April/041037.html https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2016-April/041038.html https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2016-April/041039.html I still suspect an issue with the Arch's hunspell-en package, https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/48839, but since another Arch mailing list subscriber doesn't experience this issue, it might be related to Claws and perhaps, because I'm using an en and de dictionary. Regards, Ralf From rostedt at goodmis.org Fri Apr 8 21:36:52 2016 From: rostedt at goodmis.org (Steven Rostedt) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 15:36:52 -0400 Subject: [Users] Not being able to move through index without marking email read anymore Message-ID: <20160408153652.6bc04f39@gandalf.local.home> Hi, I've recently upgraded to 3.13.2, and notice an annoying change. I like to scan my inbox via the subjects and when there's something I want to read I hit the enter key and that email is shown in the preview window and then marked as read. Other emails that I want to look at later I simply scan past and they stay marked as read, and their contents do not show up in the preview window (fine by me). But now, as I move through the subjects, each email shows up in the preview window and is immediately marked as read. I can no longer quickly scan through the subjects to find an email that interests me without using the mouse (bad mouse). Is there a way to get the old behavior back? Please Cc me directly on this, because I seldom read this folder, and when I do, I can never find emails that respond back to my question in the first place. All my folders have that (!) marking, and it's not helpful. I have no idea how people can get anything done with that work flow. Thanks! -- Steve From andrej at kacian.sk Fri Apr 8 21:41:43 2016 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 21:41:43 +0200 Subject: [Users] Not being able to move through index without marking email read anymore In-Reply-To: <20160408153652.6bc04f39@gandalf.local.home> References: <20160408153652.6bc04f39@gandalf.local.home> Message-ID: <20160408214143.234386d9@penny> On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 15:36:52 -0400 Steven Rostedt wrote: > But now, as I move through the subjects, each email shows up in the > preview window and is immediately marked as read. I can no longer > quickly scan through the subjects to find an email that interests me > without using the mouse (bad mouse). > > Is there a way to get the old behavior back? You probably set "Open message when selected" option from "Never" to something else. Look in "Summaries" page of Claws Mail preferences. > Please Cc me directly on this, because I seldom read this folder, and > when I do, I can never find emails that respond back to my question in > the first place. All my folders have that (!) marking, and it's not > helpful. I have no idea how people can get anything done with that > work flow. Enabling threaded view helps a lot - "conversations" are then sorted each into its own tree, so you can zero in on what interests you. Regards, -- Andrej From rostedt at goodmis.org Fri Apr 8 21:57:57 2016 From: rostedt at goodmis.org (Steven Rostedt) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 15:57:57 -0400 Subject: [Users] Not being able to move through index without marking email read anymore In-Reply-To: <20160408214143.234386d9@penny> References: <20160408153652.6bc04f39@gandalf.local.home> <20160408214143.234386d9@penny> Message-ID: <20160408155757.7d997d72@gandalf.local.home> On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 21:41:43 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 15:36:52 -0400 > Steven Rostedt wrote: > > > But now, as I move through the subjects, each email shows up in the > > preview window and is immediately marked as read. I can no longer > > quickly scan through the subjects to find an email that interests me > > without using the mouse (bad mouse). > > > > Is there a way to get the old behavior back? > > You probably set "Open message when selected" option from "Never" to > something else. Look in "Summaries" page of Claws Mail preferences. Interesting. Something must be a missed when I upgraded. I went to "Summaries" and the "Open message when selected" was set to "Never". But then I set it to something else, hit "Apply" and then put it back to "Never" and hit "Apply" and now it works as it did before. Thanks for pointing it out. I forgot about that option. > > > Please Cc me directly on this, because I seldom read this folder, and > > when I do, I can never find emails that respond back to my question in > > the first place. All my folders have that (!) marking, and it's not > > helpful. I have no idea how people can get anything done with that > > work flow. > > Enabling threaded view helps a lot - "conversations" are then sorted > each into its own tree, so you can zero in on what interests you. > I switch between threaded and non threaded (Ctrl-T for me). But my folders have between 4 to 30 thousand emails each. If I'm not Cc'd directly, I wont see it. My Inbox (currently at 4115 emails, and 903 unread), is the only folder that I will get to all emails (eventually ;-) -- Steve From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 9 11:00:05 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 09:00:05 -0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3623] Client crash on importing duplicated feed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3623 --- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2016-04-09 11:00:02.826513995 +0200 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=1417d9fcd1189348ffee1b30645d59ddc5e431ae Merge: 6127d8b 7c87afd Author: Colin Leroy Date: Sat Apr 9 11:00:02 2016 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c87afdcbc271211754ce2d097b20d85ff7cc6ba Author: Andrej Kacian Date: Sat Apr 9 10:57:48 2016 +0200 Fix parsing logic in RSSyl OPML import. Possibly closes bug #3623. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 9 11:00:32 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 09:00:32 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3623] Client crash on importing duplicated feed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3623 --- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian --- Does it crash only if the OPML file contains that feed, or when importing any OPML file? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Apr 9 11:44:23 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 09:44:23 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3637] New: Saving to network share Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3637 Bug ID: 3637 Summary: Saving to network share Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail (Windows) Version: 3.13.2 Hardware: PC OS: Windows 10 Status: NEW Severity: major Priority: P3 Component: default Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: gerard.seibert at gmail.com Running Claws Mail version 3.13.2 on a Windows 10 PRO/64 machine. I can not save a file to a network share. Using the syntax "\\server\share\" produces an error message about the indexer. This is the message: ********************************************************************** COULD NOT START THE SEARCH PROCESS The program was not able to create a connection to the indexer daemon. Please make sure it is running. ********************************************************************** Now, if I want to attach a file from a network share, using the same syntax, everything works fine. This inconsistency does not make sense. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From silver.bullet at zoho.com Sun Apr 10 23:55:34 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 23:55:34 +0200 Subject: [Users] Look of Claws changed to an unfavourable style Message-ID: <20160410235534.107bf273@utnubu> Hi, after upgrading several packages [1], the look of Claws in an openbox session became unfavourable. A pre-post comparison is attached [2]. I already downgraded several packages, but couldn't find the culprit. Does anybody know what is responsible for the unfavourable new look? Regards, Ralf [1] $ echo $(grep 2016-04-10\ 19 /var/log/pacman.log|grep grade|grep -v gambas3|cut -d" " -f5|sort) adwaita-icon-theme atk at-spi2-atk at-spi2-core blender boost boost-libs calligra-filters calligra-krita calligra-libs calligra-plugins caribou cheese chromium cinnamon clutter clutter-gst clutter-gst2 clutter-gtk cogl colord dconf evince evolution evolution-bogofilter evolution-data-server evolution-spamassassin file-roller firefox full gcr gedit gegl geocode-glib gjs glib2 glibmm glib-networking gnome-backgrounds gnome-bluetooth gnome-calculator gnome-desktop gnome-keyring gnome-online-accounts gnome-session gnome-themes-standard gobject-introspection gobject-introspection-runtime gsettings-desktop-schemas gst-libav gst-plugins-bad gst-plugins-base gst-plugins-base-libs gst-plugins-good gst-plugins-ugly gstreamer gtk3 gtk-doc gtkmm3 gtksourceview3 gtk-update-icon-cache gucharmap harfbuzz harfbuzz-icu icu inkscape json-glib lib32-atk lib32-giflib lib32-harfbuzz lib32-icu lib32-mpg123 lib32-pango libcanberra libcanberra-gstreamer libcanberra-pulse libgit2 libgtop libgweather libpeas libphonenumber libsoup libsynctex libtracker-sparql libxml2 meld minizip nemo nodejs pango pangomm poppler poppler-glib poppler-qt4 poppler-qt5 pygobject-devel python2-atspi python2-gobject python-atspi python-gobject qt4 qt5-base qt5-webkit quazip-qt5 raptor seahorse texlive-bin vala vte3 vte-common webkit2gtk webkitgtk webkitgtk2 yelp yelp-xsl zenity -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: [2]before_and_after_upgrade.png Type: image/png Size: 25714 bytes Desc: not available URL: From andrej at kacian.sk Mon Apr 11 00:55:12 2016 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 00:55:12 +0200 Subject: [Users] Look of Claws changed to an unfavourable style In-Reply-To: <20160410235534.107bf273@utnubu> References: <20160410235534.107bf273@utnubu> Message-ID: <20160411005512.6f9ac3e6@hiker> On Sun, 10 Apr 2016 23:55:34 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > after upgrading several packages [1], the look of Claws in an openbox > session became unfavourable. A pre-post comparison is attached [2]. You might have more luck asking this on an Archlinux-specific mailing list or forum, after you also include name of your GTK2 theme. It may have changed within that distribution, and someone else who is also using the same theme (or even maintainer of relevant package) might know something about it. Regards, -- Andrej From silver.bullet at zoho.com Mon Apr 11 01:16:55 2016 From: silver.bullet at zoho.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 01:16:55 +0200 Subject: [Users] Look of Claws changed to an unfavourable style In-Reply-To: <20160411005512.6f9ac3e6@hiker> References: <20160410235534.107bf273@utnubu> <20160411005512.6f9ac3e6@hiker> Message-ID: <20160411011655.00710498@utnubu> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 00:55:12 +0200, Andrej Kacian wrote: >You might have more luck asking this on an Archlinux-specific mailing >list or forum, after you also include name of your GTK2 theme. It may >have changed within that distribution, and someone else who is also >using the same theme (or even maintainer of relevant package) might >know something about it. Opps, I forgot to post the theme: $ grep -v '#' .gtkrc-2.0 gtk-theme-name = "Adwaita" style "user-font" { font_name="FreeSans 12" } widget_class "*" style "user-font" However, there is no theme upgrade, excepted of the icon theme and I already downgraded the icon theme. It seems to be something GTK related. I already sent a mail to the Arch mailing list: "a bar that already separates regions inside a window, became a bar with a cutting line inside the bar" - https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2016-April/041061.html Not only Claws is affected, all GTK2 apps now look nearly as the most worse GTK3 apps. From lists at lazygranch.com Mon Apr 11 04:29:59 2016 From: lists at lazygranch.com (lists at lazygranch.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 19:29:59 -0700 Subject: [Users] dkim and spf verification Message-ID: <20160410192959.4220b283@linux-h57q.site> New to the list. Is there any plugin or simple way to see if DKIM and SPF are in the header and obviously passed. (Well besides reading the header, which I am doing now.) From pf at pfortin.com Mon Apr 11 04:54:30 2016 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 22:54:30 -0400 Subject: [Users] dkim and spf verification In-Reply-To: <20160410192959.4220b283@linux-h57q.site> References: <20160410192959.4220b283@linux-h57q.site> Message-ID: <20160410225430.274bf6f8@pfortin.com> On Sun, 10 Apr 2016 19:29:59 -0700 lists at lazygranch.com wrote: >New to the list. Is there any plugin or simple way to see if DKIM and >SPF are in the header and obviously passed. (Well besides reading the >header, which I am doing now.) Configuration->Preferences->Message View->Text Options [X] Display headers in message view [Edit] Click the Edit button. In Header name field, replace the content (From) with what you want; such as DKIM-Filter (exact header minus the ":") & click Add, OK, Apply... From lists at lazygranch.com Mon Apr 11 09:04:17 2016 From: lists at lazygranch.com (lists at lazygranch.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 00:04:17 -0700 Subject: [Users] dkim and spf verification In-Reply-To: <20160410225430.274bf6f8@pfortin.com> References: <20160410192959.4220b283@linux-h57q.site> <20160410225430.274bf6f8@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20160411000417.0294bd01@linux-h57q.site> On Sun, 10 Apr 2016 22:54:30 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Sun, 10 Apr 2016 19:29:59 -0700 lists at lazygranch.com wrote: > > >New to the list. Is there any plugin or simple way to see if DKIM and > >SPF are in the header and obviously passed. (Well besides reading the > >header, which I am doing now.) > > Configuration->Preferences->Message View->Text Options > [X] Display headers in message view [Edit] > Click the Edit button. > In Header name field, replace the content (From) with what you want; > such as DKIM-Filter (exact header minus the ":") & click Add, OK, > Apply... _______________________________________________ I can easily follow this to the point of "edit". I see two columns of choices. I suppose I can create DKIM-Filter on the left with "add", but what do I place on the right. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 11 09:30:59 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 08:30:59 +0100 Subject: [Users] dkim and spf verification In-Reply-To: <20160411000417.0294bd01@linux-h57q.site> References: <20160410192959.4220b283@linux-h57q.site> <20160410225430.274bf6f8@pfortin.com> <20160411000417.0294bd01@linux-h57q.site> Message-ID: <20160411083059.651e06b5@kujata> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 00:04:17 -0700 "lists at lazygranch.com" wrote: > I can easily follow this to the point of "edit". I see two columns > of choices. I suppose I can create DKIM-Filter on the left with > "add", but what do I place on the right. You want it more complicated but it isn't. You were given the full instructions. Try it and see. with regards Paul From lists at lazygranch.com Mon Apr 11 10:09:05 2016 From: lists at lazygranch.com (lists at lazygranch.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 01:09:05 -0700 Subject: [Users] dkim and spf verification In-Reply-To: <20160411083059.651e06b5@kujata> References: <20160410192959.4220b283@linux-h57q.site> <20160410225430.274bf6f8@pfortin.com> <20160411000417.0294bd01@linux-h57q.site> <20160411083059.651e06b5@kujata> Message-ID: <20160411010905.49145fd7@linux-h57q.site> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 08:30:59 +0100 Paul wrote: > On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 00:04:17 -0700 > "lists at lazygranch.com" wrote: > > > I can easily follow this to the point of "edit". I see two columns > > of choices. I suppose I can create DKIM-Filter on the left with > > "add", but what do I place on the right. > > You want it more complicated but it isn't. You were given the full > instructions. Try it and see. > > with regards > > Paul > _______________________________________________ Maybe you can state the instructions a different way. I wouldn't have done a second post if I didn't at least attempt to follow your instructions the first time. From claws-mail at fy3.co.uk Mon Apr 11 11:19:21 2016 From: claws-mail at fy3.co.uk (Chris Hirst) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 10:19:21 +0100 Subject: [Users] dkim and spf verification In-Reply-To: <20160411010905.49145fd7@linux-h57q.site> References: <20160410192959.4220b283@linux-h57q.site> <20160410225430.274bf6f8@pfortin.com> <20160411000417.0294bd01@linux-h57q.site> <20160411083059.651e06b5@kujata> <20160411010905.49145fd7@linux-h57q.site> Message-ID: <20160411101921.07ab5a5d@chris-HP> > You want it more complicated but it isn't. You were given the full > instructions. Try it and see. > Actually your instructions were how to display a header in the message which is not was was requested and specifically excluded with: > (Well besides reading the > header, which I am doing now.) However DKIM and SPF are meant to be used at the mail server to accept or reject email, SPF and DKIM are checked against DNS record lookups and the "handover" relay mail server domain name. From lists at lazygranch.com Mon Apr 11 11:32:28 2016 From: lists at lazygranch.com (lists at lazygranch.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 02:32:28 -0700 Subject: [Users] dkim and spf verification In-Reply-To: <20160411101921.07ab5a5d@chris-HP> References: <20160410192959.4220b283@linux-h57q.site> <20160410225430.274bf6f8@pfortin.com> <20160411000417.0294bd01@linux-h57q.site> <20160411083059.651e06b5@kujata> <20160411010905.49145fd7@linux-h57q.site> <20160411101921.07ab5a5d@chris-HP> Message-ID: <20160411093228.5455956.21984.750@lazygranch.com> Well actually SPF and DKIM actions depend on policies set by your email server. I get plenty of email with just SPF or DKIM because if my server refused it, I would lose email that I really need. You would be surprised how much corporate mail fails to provide both SPF and DKIM. Google, Hotmail, yahoo provide both features.  I noticed Thunderbird has a ‎plugin for SPF and DKIM validation. I haven't run Tbird in years and really rather just stay with claws, but was curious if there was an equivalent plugin for Claws.  My understanding is Gmail is now giving an indication when both DKIM and SPF are met, so maybe this is a trend with investigating for other mail clients.    Original Message   From: Chris Hirst Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 2:19 AM To: users at lists.claws-mail.org Subject: Re: [Users] dkim and spf verification > You want it more complicated but it isn't. You were given the full > instructions. Try it and see. > Actually your instructions were how to display a header in the message which is not was was requested and specifically excluded with: > (Well besides reading the > header, which I am doing now.) However DKIM and SPF are meant to be used at the mail server to accept or reject email, SPF and DKIM are checked against DNS record lookups and the "handover" relay mail server domain name. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users at lists.claws-mail.org http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 11 18:33:48 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 17:33:48 +0100 Subject: [Users] dkim and spf verification In-Reply-To: <20160411101921.07ab5a5d@chris-HP> References: <20160410192959.4220b283@linux-h57q.site> <20160410225430.274bf6f8@pfortin.com> <20160411000417.0294bd01@linux-h57q.site> <20160411083059.651e06b5@kujata> <20160411010905.49145fd7@linux-h57q.site> <20160411101921.07ab5a5d@chris-HP> Message-ID: <20160411173348.2e556121@kujata> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 10:19:21 +0100 Chris Hirst wrote: > Actually your instructions were how to display a header in the > message They were Pierre's instructions not mine, but if they are "in the header", as originally asked, then Pierre's instructions kind of fit. with regards Paul From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 11 18:44:41 2016 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 17:44:41 +0100 Subject: [Users] Spell checking issue In-Reply-To: <20160408210135.5b5ff9be@utnubu> References: <20160408210135.5b5ff9be@utnubu> Message-ID: <20160411174441.7fba2875@kujata> On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 21:01:35 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > is anybody experiencing issues with hunspell-en and Claws, too? Not at all. with regards Paul From pf at pfortin.com Mon Apr 11 18:59:41 2016 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 12:59:41 -0400 Subject: [Users] dkim and spf verification In-Reply-To: <20160410192959.4220b283@linux-h57q.site> References: <20160410192959.4220b283@linux-h57q.site> Message-ID: <20160411125941.69f4a0f2@pfortin.com> On Sun, 10 Apr 2016 19:29:59 -0700 lists at lazygranch.com wrote: >New to the list. Is there any plugin or simple way to see if DKIM and >SPF are in the header See previous answer. Answered only what I was sure about. > and obviously passed. See RFC 6376 at https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6376 (or later if any) >(Well besides reading the >header, which I am doing now.) From lists at lazygranch.com Mon Apr 11 19:40:27 2016 From: lists at lazygranch.com (lists at lazygranch.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 10:40:27 -0700 Subject: [Users] dkim and spf verification In-Reply-To: <20160411125941.69f4a0f2@pfortin.com> References: <20160410192959.4220b283@linux-h57q.site> <20160411125941.69f4a0f2@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20160411174027.5435476.32192.786@lazygranch.com> I've set up an email server with SPF and DKIM implemented. I am familiar with the concepts.  My point is does a plug in exist that simply looks at a header and verifies ‎that a sender to me has passed DKIM and SPF. ‎ Again to elaborate, I implement SPF and DKIM on my server correctly. That is not the question. Further, there are online services that verify this, such as the DKIM validator, so I would not rely on a claws plugin or similar to verify my setup. I can implement policies to reject email that does not meet both SPF and DKIM. I choose not to do so because that would reject email that I need to receive. All I want is a plugin that notes when DKIM and SPF had passed so that I know there mail is at least authenticated. Perhaps I have been too terse. Here is the add on used by Thunderbird : ‎https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/dkim-verifier/   Original Message   From: Pierre Fortin Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 10:00 AM To: users at lists.claws-mail.org Subject: Re: [Users] dkim and spf verification On Sun, 10 Apr 2016 19:29:59 -0700 lists at lazygranch.com wrote: >New to the list. Is there any plugin or simple way to see if DKIM and >SPF are in the header See previous answer. Answered only what I was sure about. > and obviously passed. See RFC 6376 at https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6376 (or later if any) >(Well besides reading the >header, which I am doing now.) _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users at lists.claws-mail.org http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Apr 11 20:40:52 2016 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:40:52 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3638] New: GData Plugin fails after initial Google handshake Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3638 Bug ID: 3638 Summary: GData Plugin fails after initial Google handshake Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: other Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/GData Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: lbickley at bickleywest.com Claws version 3.13.2-99-g6d8039 System Info: GTK+ 2.24.28 / GLib 2.42.2 Locale: en_US.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8) Operating System: Linux 3.16.6-2-desktop (x86_64) GData correctly connects and authenticates with Google when Claws starts up. However, subsequent attempts to "re-authenticate" fail per below (additional connection info which "surround" the GData async query included). * Account 'Primary - lbickley': Connecting to POP3 server: secure170.inmotionhosting.com:995... * GData plugin: Starting async contacts query *** GData plugin: Error querying for contacts: Authentication required: Error 401 (Client Error)!!1