From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep  1 10:32:18 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2015 08:32:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3262] Keyboard bindings in the Folder pane
In-Reply-To: <bug-3262-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3262-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3262-595-6XqS9oAOQS@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3262

--- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Both Home and End keys now work as they should in folderview, and you can use
Left key to move cursor to parent folder.

I do not think adding a keybinding for actual selecting parent folder is a good
idea. If anything, Ctrl+Up should probably be made to work in folderview if
that's where cursor focus is.

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From claws-mail at bercot.org  Tue Sep  1 12:15:06 2015
From: claws-mail at bercot.org (David BERCOT)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 12:15:06 +0200
Subject: [Users] Problems with vCalendar
Message-ID: <20150901121506.59a5264a@debian-david>

Hello,

I have a recent problem with vCalendar...
All my meetings seem to be in the vcalendar folder but I don't see them
in Claws-Mail.

Do you have the same problem ? Maybe, a solution ;-) ?

Thank you.

David.

P.S. : version 3.12.0-71-g8bc08f
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From cronocloudauron at gmail.com  Tue Sep  1 14:02:19 2015
From: cronocloudauron at gmail.com (Ron Rogers Jr.)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 07:02:19 -0500
Subject: [Users] GPG decryption issue in Fedora 22
In-Reply-To: <20150831134251.29b7c2e4@math.umass.edu>
References: <20150821012550.30281374@wutai> <20150821082713.3bf59bb1@kujata>
 <20150821115106.66fab61b@wutai>
 <20150831134251.29b7c2e4@math.umass.edu>
Message-ID: <20150901070219.0021ca01@wutai>

On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:42:51 -0400
George Avrunin <avrunin at math.umass.edu> wrote:
> 
> I had a similar problem on a fresh install of Fedora 22, but I'm
> not sure whether the underlying cause was the same.  
>

Fresh install with a .gnupg from previous Fedora's (actually dating
back to 2007).

> In my case, the issue seems to be that the version 2.1 gpg-agent is
> now supposed to (just once) convert the secret keys from
> secring.gpg and put them in a private-keys-v1.d subdirectory
> of .gnupg.  But it was only creating the subdirectory and not
> putting any secret keys in it.  As a result, the various gpg2
> programs were not finding any secret keys. I solved the problem by
> exporting all the keys on another machine and then importing them
> on the F22 machine.  

Thanks, I think something similar happened to me. I did some more
googling thanks to the hint you provided, and this method worked for
me, and now signature checking is working properly too:

cp -r ~/.gnupg ~/gpgOLD
gpg --export-ownertrust > ~/gpgOLD/otrust.txt
mkdir ~/gpgNEW
chmod 700 ~/gpgNEW
export GNUPGHOME=~/gpgNEW
gpg --import gpgOLD/pubring.gpg
gpg --import gpgOLD/secring.gpg
gpg --import-ownertrust ~/gpgOLD/otrust.txt

Thanks again for the info.

Ron Rogers Jr. (CronoCloud)
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep  1 16:11:21 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2015 14:11:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3513] New: Can't delete multiple selected e-mails
Message-ID: <bug-3513-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3513

            Bug ID: 3513
           Summary: Can't delete multiple selected e-mails
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.12.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: gregsharp.geo at yahoo.com

When I perform the following action:

1. Select multiple e-mails
2. Move to trash with CTRL-d

The e-mails are not moved to trash.  Instead, the screen "jumps" to the very
last e-mail in the list.  Previously selected items remain selected.

Note that deleting a single e-mail works as expected.

At this time unknown if windows-specific.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep  2 02:06:05 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2015 00:06:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3172] Flagging outstanding messages in Drafts folder
In-Reply-To: <bug-3172-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3172-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3172-595-EF3SmlzvbY@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3172

Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #3 from Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> ---
Closing as this issue can be resolved by:

Configuration
  Preferences
    Plugins
      Notification
        SysTrayIcon

[X] Only include selected folders

Click on "Select Folders..."

[X] select recursively
[X] Mailbox (MH)
which will select all folders

Now, uncheck Sent, Drafts, Queue, Trash and/or any other folder(s) you don't
want to be notified about.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep  2 02:07:37 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2015 00:07:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3172] Disabling Notification SysTrayIcon flagging of
 certain folders {Queue, Trash, ...}
In-Reply-To: <bug-3172-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3172-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3172-595-BCCCow0yQQ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3172

Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
            Summary|Flagging outstanding        |Disabling Notification
                   |messages in Drafts folder   |SysTrayIcon flagging of
                   |                            |certain folders {Queue,
                   |                            |Trash, ...}

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep  2 06:37:25 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 05:37:25 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing from Seamonkey mail client
In-Reply-To: <55E04DB6.4090807@gmail.com>
References: <55E04DB6.4090807@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150902053725.2a06dea1@kujata>

Hi,

No responses. Perhaps you'll have better luck if you try again with a
bit more brevity.

regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep  2 10:56:34 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2015 08:56:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3513] Can't delete multiple selected e-mails
In-Reply-To: <bug-3513-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3513-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3513-595-c8TiOJLWMg@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3513

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
This is indeed a bug specific to Windows. I will try looking at what's wrong.

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From claws-mail at bercot.org  Wed Sep  2 11:59:33 2015
From: claws-mail at bercot.org (David BERCOT)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:59:33 +0200
Subject: [Users] Problems with vCalendar
In-Reply-To: <20150901121506.59a5264a@debian-david>
References: <20150901121506.59a5264a@debian-david>
Message-ID: <20150902115933.2f84145b@debian-david>

Hello,

I've found the solution, so, if it can help someone...

All the meetings I couldn't see anymore were the ones with the attendee
was equal to the mail address I had removed (in Claws-Mail) !!!

So, I've written a small script to replace attendee="old_mail" by
attendee="new_mail" and now, I can see all my meetings back !

David.

Le Tue, 1 Sep 2015 12:15:06 +0200,
David BERCOT <claws-mail at bercot.org> a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> I have a recent problem with vCalendar...
> All my meetings seem to be in the vcalendar folder but I don't see
> them in Claws-Mail.
> 
> Do you have the same problem ? Maybe, a solution ;-) ?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> David.
> 
> P.S. : version 3.12.0-71-g8bc08f
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep  2 20:01:34 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2015 18:01:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3172] Disabling Notification SysTrayIcon flagging of
 certain folders {Queue, Trash, ...}
In-Reply-To: <bug-3172-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3172-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3172-595-ipli5cGWfK@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3172

--- Comment #4 from Holger Berndt <hb at claws-mail.org> ---
The plugin doesn't consider draft folders (or child folders of draft folders)
for new mail notification. This workaround should not be necessary. Are you
sure that the folder is really "Drafts"?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep  2 20:43:22 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2015 18:43:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3172] Disabling Notification SysTrayIcon flagging of
 certain folders {Queue, Trash, ...}
In-Reply-To: <bug-3172-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3172-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3172-595-yphZDcZVzQ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3172

--- Comment #5 from Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> ---
Hi Holger,

I just re-enabled Drafts folder in Notification/SysTrayIcon and it gives me
both New and Unread status with no such message in any other folder...

Testing with a fresh userid, I see that enabling SysTrayIcon without using
"Only include selected folders" appears to ignore Drafts as you state.

However, once "Only include selected folders" is checked, Drafts gets included
with "select recursively", so it has to be explicitly de-selected.

I agree with you IF only Drafts should be ignored; but any user wanting to
prevent notification on other folders will likely turn on all folders
(including Drafts) as being easier to uncheck a few than checking all but... 
:)

Maybe Drafts should be excluded in "select recursively"; but allowed if user
desires/selects it...

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep  3 02:23:21 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 00:23:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1920] No automatic NNTP filtering
In-Reply-To: <bug-1920-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1920-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1920-595-CnKgOJXSOx@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1920

--- Comment #7 from boxcars at gmx.net ---
Both patches work for me, building using Gentoo's claws-mail-3.11.1-r1. Thanks,
Stephan!

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From doark at mail.com  Thu Sep  3 19:09:46 2015
From: doark at mail.com (David Niklas)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 17:09:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] Some text rendered as =[0-9][0-9]
Message-ID: <20150903170946.12ac74ad@ulgy_thing>

Hello,
When reading some posts to various mailing lists (digest mode) I often
run into sentences that are quoted and look like this:

> some text here and then=20
some more text down here
> Some=3Dthing else.

Other posts are full of things (exact quote):

> 01.09.2015 13:43, Wouter Verhelst =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82:

What's going on and how do I fix it?
It almost looks like UTF-8 gone bad.

Thanks, David


From boxcars at gmx.net  Fri Sep  4 08:10:50 2015
From: boxcars at gmx.net (=?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?=)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 01:10:50 -0500
Subject: [Users] Some text rendered as =[0-9][0-9]
References: <20150903170946.12ac74ad@ulgy_thing>
Message-ID: <20150904011050.390d68e8@sepulchrave.remarqs>

On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 17:09:46 +0000
David Niklas <doark at mail.com> wrote:

> When reading some posts to various mailing lists (digest mode) I often
> run into sentences that are quoted and look like this:
> 
> > some text here and then=20  
> some more text down here
> > Some=3Dthing else.  
> 
> Other posts are full of things (exact quote):
> 
> > 01.09.2015 13:43, Wouter Verhelst =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82:  
> 
> What's going on and how do I fix it?
> It almost looks like UTF-8 gone bad.

It looks like quoted-printable posts that aren't handled well when put
into the digests.  I don't know what to suggest as fix other than to
bring it up with the list admins.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quoted-printable>




From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Sep  5 10:28:53 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2015 08:28:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3514] New: Claws Mail version 3.12.0
Message-ID: <bug-3514-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3514

            Bug ID: 3514
           Summary: Claws Mail version 3.12.0
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.12.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: bommel at mailbox.org

GTK+ version 2.24.28 / GLib 2.44.1
Locale: de_DE.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8)
Features: IPv6 iconv compface GnuTLS LDAP GNU/aspell libetpan libSM
Operating system: Linux 4.1.6-1-ARCH (x86_64)
C Library: GNU libc 2.22

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Sep  5 10:30:54 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2015 08:30:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3514] Claws Mail version 3.12.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-3514-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3514-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3514-595-izv1nOIxSC@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3514

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Sep  5 14:17:26 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2015 12:17:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3514] Claws Mail version 3.12.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-3514-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3514-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3514-595-WBeS7IqUFC@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3514

--- Comment #1 from bommel <bommel at mailbox.org> ---
Claws-Mail Process (832) received Signal 11

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Sep  5 14:23:27 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2015 12:23:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3514] Claws Mail version 3.12.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-3514-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3514-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3514-595-72aeD94KOb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3514

--- Comment #2 from bommel <bommel at mailbox.org> ---
Claws-Mail Process(899) or (1187) received Signal 11

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Sep  5 15:36:32 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2015 13:36:32 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3514] Claws Mail version 3.12.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-3514-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3514-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3514-595-KOnZda4p9e@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3514

--- Comment #3 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/page.cgi?id=bug-writing.html

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Sep  5 18:24:24 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2015 16:24:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3514] Claws Mail version 3.12.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-3514-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3514-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3514-595-jQSE19bQJv@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3514

--- Comment #4 from bommel <bommel at mailbox.org> ---
How to reproduce:

1. Open Claws-Mail
2. Do something or nothing
3. Close Claws-Mail 
4. Then Claws-Mail shows the message:
GTK+ version 2.24.28 / GLib 2.44.1
Locale: de_DE.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8)
Features: IPv6 iconv compface GnuTLS LDAP GNU/aspell libetpan libSM
Operating system: Linux 4.1.6-1-ARCH (x86_64)
C Library: GNU libc 2.22

When I start Claws-Mail per console the output is:

claws.c:102:Starting Claws Mail version Claws Mail 3.12.0
utils.c:1900:using default rc_dir /home/user/.claws-mail
main.c:2174:Using control socket
/tmp/claws-mail-1000/58c107d390fa69c187b12327b2ba0270
main.c:2238:Opening socket
/tmp/claws-mail-1000/58c107d390fa69c187b12327b2ba0270
main.c:769:runtime GTK+ 2.24.28 / GLib 2.44.1
main.c:777:buildtime GTK+ 2.24.28 / GLib 2.44.1
main.c:786:Compiled-in features:
main.c:791: compface
main.c:797: Enchant
main.c:803: GnuTLS
main.c:809: IPv6
main.c:815: iconv
main.c:827: LDAP
main.c:833: libetpan 1.6
main.c:839: libSM
main.c:845: NetworkManager
prefs_gtk.c:1037:new file '/home/user/.claws-mail/clawsrc'
prefs_gtk.c:996:new section 'Common'
prefs_gtk.c:996:new section 'Plugins_Common'
prefs_gtk.c:996:new section 'Plugins_GTK2'
prefs_gtk.c:996:new section 'Bogofilter'
prefs_gtk.c:1037:new file '/home/user/.claws-mail/folderitemrc'
prefs_gtk.c:996:new section '#imap/INBOX'
prefs_gtk.c:996:new section '#imap/INBOX/Trash'
prefs_gtk.c:996:new section '#imap/INBOX/Junk'
prefs_gtk.c:996:new section '#imap/INBOX/Junk Folder'
prefs_gtk.c:996:new section '#imap/INBOX/Sent'
prefs_gtk.c:996:new section '#imap/INBOX/User'
prefs_gtk.c:1037:new file '/home/user/.claws-mail/accountrc'
prefs_gtk.c:996:new section 'Account: 1'
prefs_gtk.c:996:new section 'Account: 2'
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
claws-mail: Fatal IO error 11 (Ressource is not available) on X server :0.0.


So Claws-Mail doesn't terminate correctly. 

Build-Date of Claws-Mail: 19th July 2015. See also:
https://www.archlinux.de/?page=PackageDetails;repo=extra;arch=x86_64;pkgname=claws-mail

I don't know whether this bug also appears on other platforms.

I am using ARCHLINUX with MATE 1.10.2 as Desktop.

The problem also appears when no mailbox exists and no other applications are
started.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Sep  5 18:26:46 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2015 16:26:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3514] Claws Mail version 3.12.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-3514-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3514-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3514-595-3i5HARoo0G@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3514

bommel <bommel at mailbox.org> changed:

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             Status|RESOLVED                    |REOPENED
         Resolution|INVALID                     |---

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Sep  5 19:32:38 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2015 17:32:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3514] Claws Mail version 3.12.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-3514-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3514-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3514-595-nuvtMyP3Ne@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3514

--- Comment #5 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
That debug output doesn't look like it's from when Claws Mail is exiting, but
rather from when it is starting. You say the crash happens when you close it.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Sep  5 19:55:59 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2015 17:55:59 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3514] Claws Mail version 3.12.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-3514-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3514-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3514-595-WZQXa1IVUb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3514

--- Comment #6 from bommel <bommel at mailbox.org> ---
When I start Claws-Mail the console is empty. The output comes first when I
close Claws-Mail.

I think you are correct. So the important line is 

claws-mail: Fatal IO error 11 (Ressource is not available) on X server :0.0.

Maybe the problem comes from X11 or MATE? Possibly GTK? It seems that it is not
a problem of Claws-Mail. I can't offer more information about this phenomenon.
Does Claws-Mail have any other Logs? Maybe a log file? 

You can close this report if you think that it isn't a problem of Claws-Mail.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Sep  5 20:05:02 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2015 18:05:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3514] Claws Mail version 3.12.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-3514-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3514-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3514-595-5eMbIVaX1r@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3514

bommel <bommel at mailbox.org> changed:

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             Status|REOPENED                    |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #7 from bommel <bommel at mailbox.org> ---
It seems that it is not really a problem of claws mail. See

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/999191

and

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=200797

Thanks for your help.

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From francis.moro at gmail.com  Sun Sep  6 23:33:31 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 23:33:31 +0200
Subject: [Users] Sent emails are never received (with gmail SMTP)
Message-ID: <CAC9WiBh3+315WY6rZbDLy=Rkr7OHacLrESG6HNfNC41Nppn-OQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm having an issue when sending email through gmail SMTP. All seems
to work fine, no error when sending emails but it seems that emails
are lost somewhere and are never received. Could anybody help me to
sort this out ?

Also I have a question is it possible to display the number of emails
inside a single thread ?

Thanks.
-- 
Francis


From pf at pfortin.com  Mon Sep  7 00:21:05 2015
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 18:21:05 -0400
Subject: [Users] Sent emails are never received (with gmail SMTP)
In-Reply-To: <CAC9WiBh3+315WY6rZbDLy=Rkr7OHacLrESG6HNfNC41Nppn-OQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBh3+315WY6rZbDLy=Rkr7OHacLrESG6HNfNC41Nppn-OQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150906182105.5818d286@pfortin.com>

On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 23:33:31 +0200 Francis Moreau wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I'm having an issue when sending email through gmail SMTP. All seems
>to work fine, no error when sending emails but it seems that emails
>are lost somewhere and are never received. Could anybody help me to
>sort this out ?

So many possibilities:
- wrong address for recipient (most common for my users)
- mail is in recipients spam/trash
- recipient has broken filtering
- spam filters
- sender blocked by recipient or SPF
- ...

Assuming you are on Linux, use "dig" to confirm your target has valid MX
records, e.g.:

$ dig claws-mail.org mx
[snip]
;; ANSWER SECTION:
claws-mail.org.    10799   IN      MX      10 mx.colino.net.
[snip]

So, mail sent to this list actually goes to Colin's server...

You should do some basic checking with your recipients... they, or their
email providers may have logs...

>Also I have a question is it possible to display the number of emails
>inside a single thread ?

Not that I know of.  You could open an enhancement request; but I'm not
sure that would get on anyone's priority...

>Thanks.
HTH


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 08:50:09 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 08:50:09 +0200
Subject: [Users] Sent emails are never received (with gmail SMTP)
In-Reply-To: <20150906182105.5818d286@pfortin.com>
References: <CAC9WiBh3+315WY6rZbDLy=Rkr7OHacLrESG6HNfNC41Nppn-OQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150906182105.5818d286@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <55ED33A1.1050306@gmail.com>

On 09/07/2015 12:21 AM, Pierre Fortin wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 23:33:31 +0200 Francis Moreau wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm having an issue when sending email through gmail SMTP. All seems
>> to work fine, no error when sending emails but it seems that emails
>> are lost somewhere and are never received. Could anybody help me to
>> sort this out ?
> 
> So many possibilities:
> - wrong address for recipient (most common for my users)
> - mail is in recipients spam/trash
> - recipient has broken filtering
> - spam filters
> - sender blocked by recipient or SPF
> - ...
> 
> Assuming you are on Linux, use "dig" to confirm your target has valid MX
> records, e.g.:
> 
> $ dig claws-mail.org mx
> [snip]
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> claws-mail.org.    10799   IN      MX      10 mx.colino.net.
> [snip]
> 
> So, mail sent to this list actually goes to Colin's server...
> 
> You should do some basic checking with your recipients... they, or their
> email providers may have logs...
> 

I did my basic testings by sending email to myself (ny gmail account).
That works as expected with my other MUA (Thunderbird and I'm posting
with it right now).

I took a look at my other folders in my gmail account and found them !
they're all in [Gmail]/Important forlder... I've no idea why gmail put
them here though.

And alos I missed them because currently Claws doesn't show me that
there're unread message in this folder because it's not currently
visible from the folder list and its parent folder [Gmail] reports 0
email unread. It looks like this if I expend [Gmail] folder:

 [Gmail]         0  0
    ...
    Important    0  4
    ...

Is there a way to have [Gmail] line reporting unread message ?

Thanks.


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 09:10:38 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 09:10:38 +0200
Subject: [Users] Customizing/Improving threaded view for '3 columns' layout
Message-ID: <55ED386E.5030300@gmail.com>

Hello,

I'm using the 'Three columns' layout.

I'd like to modify how the subject field is rendering because I don't
like how it's rendered currently by using 2 lines. Now I have for example:

 <subject>
 <from1> <date1>
    <Re: subject>
    <from2> <date2>

Is it possible to use only one line instead, like:

 <subject> <from1> <date1>
    <Re: subject> <from2> <date2>

or even better, use 2 lines for the original post and use only one line
for replies and remove the subject (unless it has changed) since there's
no point to repeat and waste one line repeating it:

 <subject>
 <from1> <date1>
    Replies <from2> <date2>
    ...

Thanks.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep  7 09:21:56 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 08:21:56 +0100
Subject: [Users] Sent emails are never received (with gmail SMTP)
In-Reply-To: <55ED33A1.1050306@gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBh3+315WY6rZbDLy=Rkr7OHacLrESG6HNfNC41Nppn-OQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150906182105.5818d286@pfortin.com> <55ED33A1.1050306@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150907082156.12228633@kujata>

On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 08:50:09 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote: 

> Is there a way to have [Gmail] line reporting unread message ?

/View/Set displayed columns/in folder list

with regards

Paul


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 09:27:07 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 09:27:07 +0200
Subject: [Users] Sent emails are never received (with gmail SMTP)
In-Reply-To: <20150907082156.12228633@kujata>
References: <CAC9WiBh3+315WY6rZbDLy=Rkr7OHacLrESG6HNfNC41Nppn-OQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150906182105.5818d286@pfortin.com> <55ED33A1.1050306@gmail.com>
 <20150907082156.12228633@kujata>
Message-ID: <55ED3C4B.2010704@gmail.com>

On 09/07/2015 09:21 AM, Paul wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 08:50:09 +0200
> Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
>> Is there a way to have [Gmail] line reporting unread message ?
> 
> /View/Set displayed columns/in folder list
> 

No, I alread did that, and as I tried to explain, the number of unread
message for [Gmail] folder is always 0, even if its children folders
have unread messages and the number of unread for them is correct.

Thanks.



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep  7 09:32:34 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 08:32:34 +0100
Subject: [Users] Sent emails are never received (with gmail SMTP)
In-Reply-To: <55ED3C4B.2010704@gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBh3+315WY6rZbDLy=Rkr7OHacLrESG6HNfNC41Nppn-OQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150906182105.5818d286@pfortin.com> <55ED33A1.1050306@gmail.com>
 <20150907082156.12228633@kujata> <55ED3C4B.2010704@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150907083234.7965773b@kujata>

On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 09:27:07 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote: 

> No, I alread did that, and as I tried to explain, the number of
> unread message for [Gmail] folder is always 0, even if its children
> folders have unread messages and the number of unread for them is
> correct.

In that case, no.

with regards

Paul


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 09:35:33 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 09:35:33 +0200
Subject: [Users] Sent emails are never received (with gmail SMTP)
In-Reply-To: <20150907083234.7965773b@kujata>
References: <CAC9WiBh3+315WY6rZbDLy=Rkr7OHacLrESG6HNfNC41Nppn-OQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150906182105.5818d286@pfortin.com> <55ED33A1.1050306@gmail.com>
 <20150907082156.12228633@kujata> <55ED3C4B.2010704@gmail.com>
 <20150907083234.7965773b@kujata>
Message-ID: <55ED3E45.9020409@gmail.com>

On 09/07/2015 09:32 AM, Paul wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 09:27:07 +0200
> Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
>> No, I alread did that, and as I tried to explain, the number of
>> unread message for [Gmail] folder is always 0, even if its children
>> folders have unread messages and the number of unread for them is
>> correct.
> 
> In that case, no.
> 

so I have to keep the folder list expanded and search for folder with
new emails manually ?



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep  7 09:39:55 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 08:39:55 +0100
Subject: [Users] Sent emails are never received (with gmail SMTP)
In-Reply-To: <55ED3E45.9020409@gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBh3+315WY6rZbDLy=Rkr7OHacLrESG6HNfNC41Nppn-OQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150906182105.5818d286@pfortin.com> <55ED33A1.1050306@gmail.com>
 <20150907082156.12228633@kujata> <55ED3C4B.2010704@gmail.com>
 <20150907083234.7965773b@kujata> <55ED3E45.9020409@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150907083955.6c6bd6d6@kujata>

On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 09:35:33 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote: 

> so I have to keep the folder list expanded and search for folder
> with new emails manually ?

No. When it is collapsed and its sub-folders have unread messages the
name will be in a bold font. If its sub-folders have new messages
then the name will be bold and coloured.

This last point just for information because gmail's imap has no
knowledge of 'new' messages. 

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep  7 10:07:57 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 09:07:57 +0100
Subject: [Users] Customizing/Improving threaded view for '3 columns'
 layout
In-Reply-To: <55ED386E.5030300@gmail.com>
References: <55ED386E.5030300@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150907090757.01face24@kujata>

On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 09:10:38 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote: 

> Is it possible to use only one line instead, like:

http://claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html#adv_hidden
Specifically, you want to change the hidden option two_line_vertical.

with regards

Paul


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 11:36:48 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 11:36:48 +0200
Subject: [Users] Customizing/Improving threaded view for '3 columns'
 layout
In-Reply-To: <20150907090757.01face24@kujata>
References: <55ED386E.5030300@gmail.com> <20150907090757.01face24@kujata>
Message-ID: <55ED5AB0.2060905@gmail.com>

On 09/07/2015 10:07 AM, Paul wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 09:10:38 +0200
> Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
>> Is it possible to use only one line instead, like:
> 
> http://claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html#adv_hidden
> Specifically, you want to change the hidden option two_line_vertical.
> 

Cool that's exactly what I was looking for :)

That said, I think that using my third suggestion would be even better:

> or even better, use 2 lines for the original post and use only one
> line for replies and remove the subject (unless it has changed) since
> there's no point to repeat and waste one line repeating it:

 <subject>
 <from1> <date1>
    Replies <from2> <date2>
    ...

What do you think ?


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 11:37:52 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 11:37:52 +0200
Subject: [Users] Sent emails are never received (with gmail SMTP)
In-Reply-To: <20150907083955.6c6bd6d6@kujata>
References: <CAC9WiBh3+315WY6rZbDLy=Rkr7OHacLrESG6HNfNC41Nppn-OQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150906182105.5818d286@pfortin.com> <55ED33A1.1050306@gmail.com>
 <20150907082156.12228633@kujata> <55ED3C4B.2010704@gmail.com>
 <20150907083234.7965773b@kujata> <55ED3E45.9020409@gmail.com>
 <20150907083955.6c6bd6d6@kujata>
Message-ID: <55ED5AF0.1000505@gmail.com>

On 09/07/2015 09:39 AM, Paul wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 09:35:33 +0200
> Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
>> so I have to keep the folder list expanded and search for folder
>> with new emails manually ?
> 
> No. When it is collapsed and its sub-folders have unread messages the
> name will be in a bold font. If its sub-folders have new messages
> then the name will be bold and coloured.
> 
> This last point just for information because gmail's imap has no
> knowledge of 'new' messages. 
> 

Ah ok so this behaviour is specific to gmail.

Thanks.



From francis.moro at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 11:53:51 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 11:53:51 +0200
Subject: [Users] Sent emails are never received (with gmail SMTP)
In-Reply-To: <55ED33A1.1050306@gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBh3+315WY6rZbDLy=Rkr7OHacLrESG6HNfNC41Nppn-OQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150906182105.5818d286@pfortin.com> <55ED33A1.1050306@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55ED5EAF.30705@gmail.com>

On 09/07/2015 08:50 AM, Francis Moreau wrote:
> On 09/07/2015 12:21 AM, Pierre Fortin wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 23:33:31 +0200 Francis Moreau wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm having an issue when sending email through gmail SMTP. All seems
>>> to work fine, no error when sending emails but it seems that emails
>>> are lost somewhere and are never received. Could anybody help me to
>>> sort this out ?
>>
>> So many possibilities:
>> - wrong address for recipient (most common for my users)
>> - mail is in recipients spam/trash
>> - recipient has broken filtering
>> - spam filters
>> - sender blocked by recipient or SPF
>> - ...
>>
>> Assuming you are on Linux, use "dig" to confirm your target has valid MX
>> records, e.g.:
>>
>> $ dig claws-mail.org mx
>> [snip]
>> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
>> claws-mail.org.    10799   IN      MX      10 mx.colino.net.
>> [snip]
>>
>> So, mail sent to this list actually goes to Colin's server...
>>
>> You should do some basic checking with your recipients... they, or their
>> email providers may have logs...
>>
> 
> I did my basic testings by sending email to myself (ny gmail account).
> That works as expected with my other MUA (Thunderbird and I'm posting
> with it right now).
> 
> I took a look at my other folders in my gmail account and found them !
> they're all in [Gmail]/Important forlder... I've no idea why gmail put
> them here though.
> 

I did another test and send emails to another mailbox and it worked...
almost (see below). So it seems that there's a something specific to
gmail and sending email to myself.

I said almost because I configured claws to save a copy of outgoing
messages to the current folder, but it doesn't work.



From edodd55 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 12:06:45 2015
From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 20:06:45 +1000
Subject: [Users] Sent emails are never received (with gmail SMTP)
In-Reply-To: <55ED5EAF.30705@gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBh3+315WY6rZbDLy=Rkr7OHacLrESG6HNfNC41Nppn-OQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150906182105.5818d286@pfortin.com> <55ED33A1.1050306@gmail.com>
 <55ED5EAF.30705@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150907200645.7ee48675.edodd55@gmail.com>

On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 11:53:51 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:

> I did another test and send emails to another mailbox and it worked...
> almost (see below). So it seems that there's a something specific to
> gmail and sending email to myself.

There is.
Gmail does not comprehend that you would send mail to yourself. I can
think of reasons other than testing, too.

Another place where this becomes a problem is when you subscribe to a
list and request mailman to send your own messages. Mailman sends them,
Gmail bins them.

Liz


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 12:14:30 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 12:14:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] Sent emails are never received (with gmail SMTP)
In-Reply-To: <20150907200645.7ee48675.edodd55@gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBh3+315WY6rZbDLy=Rkr7OHacLrESG6HNfNC41Nppn-OQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150906182105.5818d286@pfortin.com> <55ED33A1.1050306@gmail.com>
 <55ED5EAF.30705@gmail.com> <20150907200645.7ee48675.edodd55@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55ED6386.2080502@gmail.com>

On 09/07/2015 12:06 PM, Liz wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 11:53:51 +0200
> Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I did another test and send emails to another mailbox and it worked...
>> almost (see below). So it seems that there's a something specific to
>> gmail and sending email to myself.
> 
> There is.
> Gmail does not comprehend that you would send mail to yourself. I can
> think of reasons other than testing, too.
> 
> Another place where this becomes a problem is when you subscribe to a
> list and request mailman to send your own messages. Mailman sends them,
> Gmail bins them.
> 

So both email sent to myself + copy made by claws in INBOX are moved to
somewhere else by Gmail ? In my case they seem to be moved in
[Gmail]/Important...



From edodd55 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 12:19:50 2015
From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 20:19:50 +1000
Subject: [Users] Sent emails are never received (with gmail SMTP)
In-Reply-To: <55ED6386.2080502@gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBh3+315WY6rZbDLy=Rkr7OHacLrESG6HNfNC41Nppn-OQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150906182105.5818d286@pfortin.com> <55ED33A1.1050306@gmail.com>
 <55ED5EAF.30705@gmail.com>
 <20150907200645.7ee48675.edodd55@gmail.com>
 <55ED6386.2080502@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150907201950.040f8532.edodd55@gmail.com>

On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 12:14:30 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:

> So both email sent to myself + copy made by claws in INBOX are moved
> to somewhere else by Gmail ? In my case they seem to be moved in
> [Gmail]/Important...

I had an interesting experience with a Microsoft Exchange server which
Trashed lots of my mail....
in the archives of March 2014.


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 14:50:53 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 14:50:53 +0200
Subject: [Users] Sent emails are never received (with gmail SMTP)
In-Reply-To: <20150907200645.7ee48675.edodd55@gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBh3+315WY6rZbDLy=Rkr7OHacLrESG6HNfNC41Nppn-OQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150906182105.5818d286@pfortin.com> <55ED33A1.1050306@gmail.com>
 <55ED5EAF.30705@gmail.com> <20150907200645.7ee48675.edodd55@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55ED882D.9000607@gmail.com>

On 09/07/2015 12:06 PM, Liz wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 11:53:51 +0200
> Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I did another test and send emails to another mailbox and it worked...
>> almost (see below). So it seems that there's a something specific to
>> gmail and sending email to myself.
> 
> There is.
> Gmail does not comprehend that you would send mail to yourself.

I think that's not true.

If sending emails to myself using other MUAs (TB, android), everything
works as expected.

Thanks.



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep  7 17:36:55 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2015 15:36:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3515] New: Ctrl-Shift-X opens multiple external editors
Message-ID: <bug-3515-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3515

            Bug ID: 3515
           Summary: Ctrl-Shift-X opens multiple external editors
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.11.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Compose Window
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: claws-bugs-20218 at khumba.net

1. Open a compose window.
2. Open an external editor (C-S-x or through the menu).
The menu open to open the external editor is now greyed out.
3. Focus the compose window and type C-S-x.
A wild second editor appears!

Expected: One editor at a time.

- If you close the first editor first, then Claws freezes until the second
editor is closed.

- Whichever order you close the windows and regardless of what's in the
second-to-close window or if you resave the deleted temp file, the compose
window's body is cleared when the last editor closes.

Claws 3.11.1 on NixOS 15.09 (64-bit).

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From mbone at gmx.co.uk  Mon Sep  7 18:41:52 2015
From: mbone at gmx.co.uk (Charles Kroeger)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 11:41:52 -0500
Subject: [Users] seg fault (?) on opening mail from myself displayed in
	newsgroup
Message-ID: <20150907114152.5103be9c@mundo>

something I have not seen before: opening a newsgroup mail from myself kills
CM..instantly. I tried marking all the unread messages read, but the same reaction
occurred when trying to open my message.

the message was 'signed' using the PGP inline system whereas I usually use the PGP
MIME option instead. (don't know how that got changed) Maybe that was it? Maybe it
was something I said :-)

anyway, debian sid is pretty crazed right now thanks to systemd.  I now have to
start my wireless adapter with the command: ifup wlp2s0 ..that's pretty fscked IMO.

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep  7 18:53:39 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 17:53:39 +0100
Subject: [Users] seg fault (?) on opening mail from myself displayed in
 newsgroup
In-Reply-To: <20150907114152.5103be9c@mundo>
References: <20150907114152.5103be9c@mundo>
Message-ID: <20150907175339.2cb05cff@kujata>

On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 11:41:52 -0500
Charles Kroeger <mbone at gmx.co.uk> wrote: 

> something I have not seen before: opening a newsgroup mail from
> myself kills CM..instantly. I tried marking all the unread messages
> read, but the same reaction occurred when trying to open my message.

Can you give details of the newsgroup and message so we can see if we
can reproduce the crash?

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep  7 19:15:17 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2015 17:15:17 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3486] allow to limit PGP autocompletion to first
	address only
In-Reply-To: <bug-3486-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3486-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3486-595-XXjRBLrD2z@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3486

--- Comment #6 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #5)
> (In reply to comment #4)
> > (In reply to comment #0)
> > > Created attachment 1555 [details]
> > > allow to limit PGP autocompletion to first address only
> > > 
> > > Some keys have a lot of UIDs, resulting in a huge dropdown list. This
> > > allows to limit PGP autocompletion to use the first UID/address of a key
> > > only.
> > 
> > Why only first? Why not first two or first three?
> 
> Because you need one mail address when mailing someone. The idea is to make
> everybody reachable but to limit the number of drop down entries.

Yep, but my point is that the first address may not be the address you're
looking for, or even the address the recipient wants you to use (I've seen spam
trap addresses among the key UIDs, for example).

> I am fine with adding another option, though.

Great :)

> > This is probably also a candidate for a hidden preference, since I believe
> > most users wouldn't like to cut auto-completion candidates, but this is of
> > course debatable.
> 
> I would be fine with that as well. Let me know if you prefer that. Any more
> opinions?

Personally I'd prefer that, and also not just a boolean for the first but an
integer to specify how many addresses are allowed from a key. Setting it to 1
would give you the feature you want. Setting it to 0 would mean to allow all
addresses as you may have guessed (which would be the default value).

Sounds it good to you?

> Do you like the new macro or do you want this to go into the code the usual
> way?
> I thought we have some more indented checkboxes... Was surprise to find only
> one. Possibly some dialogs or plugins have more.

Since I prefer the hidden option I'd say this refactoring is not necessary now.

Thanks!

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep  7 20:26:47 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2015 18:26:47 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3486] allow to limit PGP autocompletion to first
	address only
In-Reply-To: <bug-3486-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3486-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3486-595-5fwBTZB7Dc@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3486

--- Comment #7 from Christian Hesse <mail at eworm.de> ---
Created attachment 1567
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1567&action=edit
hidden preference to limit PGP autocompletion

Some keys have a lot of UIDs, resulting in a huge dropdown list. This
allows to limit PGP autocompletion to use the first n UID/address of a
key only.

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From mbone at gmx.co.uk  Mon Sep  7 20:46:25 2015
From: mbone at gmx.co.uk (Charles Kroeger)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 13:46:25 -0500
Subject: [Users] seg fault (?) on opening mail from myself displayed in
 newsgroup
In-Reply-To: <20150907175339.2cb05cff@kujata>
References: <20150907114152.5103be9c@mundo>
	<20150907175339.2cb05cff@kujata>
Message-ID: <20150907134625.46e3ec33@mundo>

On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 17:53:39 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 11:41:52 -0500
> Charles Kroeger <mbone at gmx.co.uk> wrote: 
> 
> > something I have not seen before: opening a newsgroup mail from
> > myself kills CM..instantly. I tried marking all the unread messages
> > read, but the same reaction occurred when trying to open my message.
> 
> Can you give details of the newsgroup and message so we can see if we
> can reproduce the crash?


I can't even open it in the 'sent' folder or right click on it to send as an
attachment I can't even delete it. If I click or right-click on it it instantly
kills CM. It doesn't seem to knock CM completely out of memory however because when
I start CM after the crash, it reappears as fast as it left. This is faster
than an initial start up.

I would suggest you go to the newsgroup and try to open the letter there. 

linux.debian.user (subject) Re: Adapter Names on Stretch [OT]   15/09/07(Mon) 02:00

it's under my name. This is the best I can do. 

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From freebsd at grem.de  Mon Sep  7 20:56:21 2015
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 20:56:21 +0200
Subject: [Users] seg fault (?) on opening mail from myself displayed in
 newsgroup
In-Reply-To: <20150907134625.46e3ec33@mundo>
References: <20150907114152.5103be9c@mundo> <20150907175339.2cb05cff@kujata>
 <20150907134625.46e3ec33@mundo>
Message-ID: <20150907205621.55c60540@bsd64.grem.de>



On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 13:46:25 -0500
Charles Kroeger <mbone at gmx.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 17:53:39 +0100
> Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 11:41:52 -0500
> > Charles Kroeger <mbone at gmx.co.uk> wrote: 
> > 
> > > something I have not seen before: opening a newsgroup mail from
> > > myself kills CM..instantly. I tried marking all the unread
> > > messages read, but the same reaction occurred when trying to open
> > > my message.
> > 
> > Can you give details of the newsgroup and message so we can see if
> > we can reproduce the crash?
> 
> 
> I can't even open it in the 'sent' folder or right click on it to
> send as an attachment I can't even delete it. If I click or
> right-click on it it instantly kills CM. It doesn't seem to knock CM
> completely out of memory however because when I start CM after the
> crash, it reappears as fast as it left. This is faster than an
> initial start up.
> 
> I would suggest you go to the newsgroup and try to open the letter
> there. 
> 
> linux.debian.user (subject) Re: Adapter Names on Stretch [OT]
> 15/09/07(Mon) 02:00
> 
> it's under my name. This is the best I can do. 
> 

Hi Charles,

looks like your message has a PGP signature. Chances are you updated to
GnuPG 2.1 recently. If this is the case, please make sure to follow
instructions here:

https://www.gnupg.org/faq/whats-new-in-2.1.html#nosecring

(claws from git has a workaround to figure out that problem and warn
you about it).

Short version (no warranties):

$ cd ~/.gnupg
$ gpg --export-ownertrust >otrust.lst
$ mv pubring.gpg publickeys
$ gpg2 --import-options import-local-sigs --import publickeys
$ gpg2 --import-ownertrust otrust.lst

You also might want to move your secring.pgp out of the way, like in mv
secring.pgp secring.pgp.old

Cheers,
Michael


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From mbone at gmx.co.uk  Mon Sep  7 21:31:21 2015
From: mbone at gmx.co.uk (Charles Kroeger)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 14:31:21 -0500
Subject: [Users] seg fault (?) on opening mail from myself displayed in
 newsgroup(SOLVED)
In-Reply-To: <20150907134625.46e3ec33@mundo>
References: <20150907114152.5103be9c@mundo> <20150907175339.2cb05cff@kujata>
 <20150907134625.46e3ec33@mundo>
Message-ID: <20150907143121.70a59b1f@mundo>

Thanks to Michael Gmelin for the explanation regarding the recent GnuPG 2.1 upgrade
causing the problem.

Thanks for the code to fix it.

All the best

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From francis.moro at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 21:48:23 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 21:48:23 +0200
Subject: [Users] Saving copy of outgoing emails to current folder does not
	work
Message-ID: <CAC9WiBgxenfKFn3rE_ZQHKcEChzE+qEL7m7cByZcDvd9wVPPig@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm trying to save a copy of sent emails in my INBOX. Ideally outgoing
messages should be saved in the current folder.

Note that I'm using an IMAP account but not Gmail one this time.

In properties of INBOX folder -> Compose , I selected "Save copy of
outgoing messages to this folder instead of Sent". But this has no
effect.

I also tried to use Configuration -> Preference for current account ->
Advanced and selected "Put sent messages in "#imap/xxx/INBOX", but
also doesn't work.

I'm not sure why there're 2 different ways to achieve the same purpose though.

Thanks for any help.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep  8 02:45:25 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2015 00:45:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3486] allow to limit PGP autocompletion to first
	address only
In-Reply-To: <bug-3486-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3486-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3486-595-3bTkGfjjJe@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3486

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

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hidden preference to limit PGP autocompletion

Applied, thanks!

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep  8 02:46:30 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2015 00:46:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3486] allow to limit PGP autocompletion to first
	address only
In-Reply-To: <bug-3486-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3486-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3486-595-sm5qN0iAaB@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3486

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep  8 08:13:20 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 07:13:20 +0100
Subject: [Users] Saving copy of outgoing emails to current folder does
 not work
In-Reply-To: <CAC9WiBgxenfKFn3rE_ZQHKcEChzE+qEL7m7cByZcDvd9wVPPig@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBgxenfKFn3rE_ZQHKcEChzE+qEL7m7cByZcDvd9wVPPig@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150908071320.3be6dfc4@kujata>

On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 21:48:23 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote: 

> In properties of INBOX folder -> Compose , I selected "Save copy of
> outgoing messages to this folder instead of Sent". But this has no
> effect.
> 
> I also tried to use Configuration -> Preference for current account
> -> Advanced and selected "Put sent messages in "#imap/xxx/INBOX",
> but also doesn't work.
> 
> I'm not sure why there're 2 different ways to achieve the same
> purpose though.

Since you think it's 2 options for the same (it's not) then it
suggests that it's user error.

The folder preference works when you have that folder open and are
replying or composing a new message.

The account preference is regardless of where you are on your folder
tree, unless you are in a folder that has the folder pref set, as
the folder pref has precedence.

with regards

Paul


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Tue Sep  8 09:06:40 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 09:06:40 +0200
Subject: [Users] Saving copy of outgoing emails to current folder does
 not work
In-Reply-To: <20150908071320.3be6dfc4@kujata>
References: <CAC9WiBgxenfKFn3rE_ZQHKcEChzE+qEL7m7cByZcDvd9wVPPig@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150908071320.3be6dfc4@kujata>
Message-ID: <55EE8900.9040601@gmail.com>

Hello Paul,

On 09/08/2015 08:13 AM, Paul wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 21:48:23 +0200
> Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
>> In properties of INBOX folder -> Compose , I selected "Save copy of
>> outgoing messages to this folder instead of Sent". But this has no
>> effect.
>>
>> I also tried to use Configuration -> Preference for current account
>> -> Advanced and selected "Put sent messages in "#imap/xxx/INBOX",
>> but also doesn't work.
>>
>> I'm not sure why there're 2 different ways to achieve the same
>> purpose though.
> 
> Since you think it's 2 options for the same (it's not) then it
> suggests that it's user error.

yes probably ;)

> 
> The folder preference works when you have that folder open and are
> replying or composing a new message.
> 

Ok then it's what I'm looking for.

I was somehow confused by "Save copy of outgoing messages...", because
it sounds to me it applies for any outgoing messages regardless the
current folder is. But it's probably just me.

So do you have any idea why it doesn't work in my case ?

Besides that I like very much Claws, I still need to use it a couple of
days juste to make sure but it's likely going to be my new MUA.

Thanks.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep  8 09:16:36 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 08:16:36 +0100
Subject: [Users] Saving copy of outgoing emails to current folder does
 not work
In-Reply-To: <55EE8900.9040601@gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBgxenfKFn3rE_ZQHKcEChzE+qEL7m7cByZcDvd9wVPPig@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150908071320.3be6dfc4@kujata> <55EE8900.9040601@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150908081636.2104ab6d@kujata>

On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 09:06:40 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote: 

> So do you have any idea why it doesn't work in my case ?

No, but the network log should help. /Tools/Network Log.

Copy and paste the network log from the point you bit 'send'.

with regards

Paul


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Tue Sep  8 09:28:20 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 09:28:20 +0200
Subject: [Users] Saving copy of outgoing emails to current folder does
 not work
In-Reply-To: <20150908081636.2104ab6d@kujata>
References: <CAC9WiBgxenfKFn3rE_ZQHKcEChzE+qEL7m7cByZcDvd9wVPPig@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150908071320.3be6dfc4@kujata> <55EE8900.9040601@gmail.com>
 <20150908081636.2104ab6d@kujata>
Message-ID: <55EE8E14.4080202@gmail.com>

On 09/08/2015 09:16 AM, Paul wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 09:06:40 +0200
> Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
>> So do you have any idea why it doesn't work in my case ?
> 
> No, but the network log should help. /Tools/Network Log.
> 
> Copy and paste the network log from the point you bit 'send'.
> 

here it is:

* Account 'xxx': Connecting to SMTP server: xxx...
[09:19:18] SMTP< 220 xxx
[09:19:18] ESMTP> EHLO localhost
[09:19:18] ESMTP< 250-smtp.xxx.com
[09:19:18] ESMTP< 250-AUTH LOGIN
[09:19:18] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME
[09:19:18] ESMTP< 250-SIZE
[09:19:18] ESMTP< 250-DSN
[09:19:18] ESMTP< 250 STARTTLS
[09:19:18] ESMTP> STARTTLS
[09:19:18] ESMTP< 220 Ready to start TLS
[09:19:18] ESMTP> EHLO localhost
[09:19:19] ESMTP< 250-smtp.xxx.com
[09:19:19] ESMTP< 250-AUTH LOGIN
[09:19:19] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME
[09:19:19] ESMTP< 250-SIZE
[09:19:19] ESMTP< 250 DSN
[09:19:19] ESMTP> AUTH LOGIN
[09:19:19] ESMTP< 334 xxx
[09:19:19] ESMTP> [USERID]
[09:19:19] ESMTP< 334 xxx
[09:19:19] ESMTP> [PASSWORD]
[09:19:19] ESMTP< 235 Authentication successful
[09:19:19] SMTP> MAIL FROM:<xxx>
[09:19:19] SMTP< 250 Ok
[09:19:19] SMTP> RCPT TO:<xxx>
[09:19:20] SMTP< 250 Ok
[09:19:20] SMTP> DATA
[09:19:20] SMTP< 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
[09:19:20] SMTP> . (EOM)
[09:19:20] SMTP< 250 Ok
* Mail sent successfully.

Thanks


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep  8 09:34:02 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 08:34:02 +0100
Subject: [Users] Saving copy of outgoing emails to current folder does
 not work
In-Reply-To: <55EE8E14.4080202@gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBgxenfKFn3rE_ZQHKcEChzE+qEL7m7cByZcDvd9wVPPig@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150908071320.3be6dfc4@kujata> <55EE8900.9040601@gmail.com>
 <20150908081636.2104ab6d@kujata> <55EE8E14.4080202@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150908083402.5062f118@kujata>

On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 09:28:20 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote: 

> here it is:

That's not enough, that shows the sending only and not the saving of
the message.

Start with `claws-mail --debug` and paste the debug output from the
moment you send until the end of the output.

with regards

Paul


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Tue Sep  8 09:47:55 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 09:47:55 +0200
Subject: [Users] Saving copy of outgoing emails to current folder does
 not work
In-Reply-To: <20150908083402.5062f118@kujata>
References: <CAC9WiBgxenfKFn3rE_ZQHKcEChzE+qEL7m7cByZcDvd9wVPPig@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150908071320.3be6dfc4@kujata> <55EE8900.9040601@gmail.com>
 <20150908081636.2104ab6d@kujata> <55EE8E14.4080202@gmail.com>
 <20150908083402.5062f118@kujata>
Message-ID: <55EE92AB.1020003@gmail.com>

On 09/08/2015 09:34 AM, Paul wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 09:28:20 +0200
> Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
>> here it is:
> 
> That's not enough, that shows the sending only and not the saving of
> the message.
> 
> Start with `claws-mail --debug` and paste the debug output from the
> moment you send until the end of the output.
> 

Here it is:

nntp-thread.c:563:nntp date - begin
nntp-thread.c:250:found nntp 0xd00f40
nntp-thread.c:250:found nntp 0xd00f40
[09:42:13] NNTP> DATE
[09:42:13] NNTP< 111 20150908074213
nntp-thread.c:555:nntp date run - end 0
nntp-thread.c:261:generic_cb
nntp-thread.c:570:nntp date - end
main.c:2089:exiting
folder.c:2734:Save cache for folder #imap/xxx/INBOX
msgcache.c:1189:   Writing message cache to (null) and (null)...
msgcache.c:1270:done.
msgcache.c:1271:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s000ms
folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service
files
hooks.c:90:unregisted hook 1 in 'folder_item_update'
hooks.c:90:unregisted hook 1 in 'folder_update'
main.c:1599:shutting down
inc.c:1479:removed timer = 103
folder.c:2734:Save cache for folder #imap/xxx/INBOX
msgcache.c:1189:   Writing message cache to (null) and (null)...
msgcache.c:1270:done.
msgcache.c:1271:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s000ms
folder.c:2734:Save cache for folder #imap/xxx/Queue
msgcache.c:1189:   Writing message cache to (null) and (null)...
msgcache.c:1270:done.
msgcache.c:1271:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s000ms
folder.c:2734:Save cache for folder #imap/xxx/Queue
msgcache.c:1189:   Writing message cache to (null) and (null)...
msgcache.c:1270:done.
msgcache.c:1271:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s000ms
mh.c:236:MH scan not required: /home/fmoreau/Mail/queue (1441698119 <=
1441698119)
folder.c:2734:Save cache for folder #mh/Mailbox/queue
msgcache.c:1189:   Writing message cache to
/home/fmoreau/Mail/queue/.claws_cache.new and
/home/fmoreau/Mail/queue/.claws_mark.new...
msgcache.c:1270:done.
msgcache.c:1271:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s008ms
mh.c:1420:MH: forced mtime of queue to 1441698135
folder.c:2734:Save cache for folder
#news/news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.systemd.devel
msgcache.c:1189:	Writing message cache to (null) and (null)...
msgcache.c:1270:done.
msgcache.c:1271:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s000ms
mainwindow.c:2869:main window position: 0, 18
prefs_gtk.c:288:Found [Common]
prefs_gtk.c:332:Configuration is saved.
addressbook.c:4364:Saving address books...
addressbook.c:4367:Exporting addressbook to file...
imap-thread.c:373:found imap 0x10638f0
imap-thread.c:373:found imap 0x10638f0
[09:42:15] IMAP4> 7 LOGOUT
[09:42:15] IMAP4< * BYE IMAP4rev1 Server Disconnect
[09:42:15] IMAP4< 7 OK LOGOUT completed
imap-thread.c:389:generic_cb
imap-thread.c:373:found imap 0x10638f0
imap-thread.c:719:deleting old imap 0x10638f0
imap-thread.c:489:threaded delete imap posted
imap-thread.c:723:disconnect ok
session.c:250:session (0x1064e00): destroyed
nntp-thread.c:250:found nntp 0xd00f40
nntp-thread.c:449:deleting old nntp 0xd00f40
nntp-thread.c:111:removing newsnntp 0xd00f40
nntp-thread.c:452:disconnect ok
session.c:250:session (0xaf6250): destroyed
plugin.c:288:removing /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/fancy.so rdeps
prefs.c:310:Found [fancy]
plugin.c:288:removing /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/smime.so rdeps
plugin.c:288:removing /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/pgpmime.so rdeps
plugin.c:288:removing /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/pgpinline.so rdeps
plugin.c:288:removing /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/pgpcore.so rdeps
plugin.c:292: rdep /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/pgpinline.so: (nil)
plugin.c:292: rdep /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/pgpmime.so: (nil)
plugin.c:292: rdep /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/smime.so: (nil)
prefs_gpg.c:545:Can't enable gpg agent (no GPG_AGENT_INFO)
hooks.c:90:unregisted hook 1 in
'address_completion_build_address_list_hooklist'
autocompletion.c:115:PGP address autocompletion hook unregistered
hooks.c:90:unregisted hook 1 in 'avatar_image_render'
prefs_themes.c:414:Finished preferences for themes.
gtkaspell.c:276:Aspell: number of dictionaries to delete 7


Thanks.



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep  8 10:04:34 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 09:04:34 +0100
Subject: [Users] Saving copy of outgoing emails to current folder does
 not work
In-Reply-To: <55EE92AB.1020003@gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBgxenfKFn3rE_ZQHKcEChzE+qEL7m7cByZcDvd9wVPPig@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150908071320.3be6dfc4@kujata> <55EE8900.9040601@gmail.com>
 <20150908081636.2104ab6d@kujata> <55EE8E14.4080202@gmail.com>
 <20150908083402.5062f118@kujata> <55EE92AB.1020003@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150908090434.63f91de0@kujata>

On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 09:47:55 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote: 

> Here it is:

No, that's not what I asked for either. That's you quitting
claws-mail.

with regards

Paul


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Tue Sep  8 10:16:03 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 10:16:03 +0200
Subject: [Users] Saving copy of outgoing emails to current folder does
 not work
In-Reply-To: <20150908090434.63f91de0@kujata>
References: <CAC9WiBgxenfKFn3rE_ZQHKcEChzE+qEL7m7cByZcDvd9wVPPig@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150908071320.3be6dfc4@kujata> <55EE8900.9040601@gmail.com>
 <20150908081636.2104ab6d@kujata> <55EE8E14.4080202@gmail.com>
 <20150908083402.5062f118@kujata> <55EE92AB.1020003@gmail.com>
 <20150908090434.63f91de0@kujata>
Message-ID: <55EE9943.2050503@gmail.com>

On 09/08/2015 10:04 AM, Paul wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 09:47:55 +0200
> Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
>> Here it is:
> 
> No, that's not what I asked for either. That's you quitting
> claws-mail.
> 

Sorry, that's should be better:

compose.c:7516:Creating compose window...
toolbar.c:724:read Toolbar Configuration from toolbar_compose.xml
compose.c:6850:extra headers file not found
addr_compl.c:397:read 7 items in (null)
addr_compl.c:458:start_address_completion((null)) ref count 1
hooks.c:71:registed new hook for 'folder_update' as id 4
gtkaspell.c:676:Aspell: Created a new gtkaspeller 0x127dce0
gtkaspell.c:684:Aspell: number of existing checkers 1
gtkaspell.c:440:Aspell: created gtkaspell 0x12b0ec0
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary en en
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary en_CA en_CA
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary en_GB en_GB
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary en_US en_US
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary fr fr
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary fr_CH fr_CH
gtkaspell.c:1590:Aspell: found dictionary fr_FR fr_FR
template.c:166:template.c:167 reading templates dir
/home/fmoreau/.claws-mail/templates

(claws-mail:1876): Claws-Mail-WARNING **: can't open signature file:
/home/fmoreau/.signature

compose.c:5144:called inc_lock (lock count 1)
compose.c:5930:queueing message...
compose.c:5968:queuing to
/home/fmoreau/.claws-mail/tmp/queue.0xd90d4065bfa914
codeconv.c:1496:current locale: en_US.UTF-8
compose.c:6335:Adding To-fields
compose.c:6294:new auto-quoted address: '"francis.moro at gmail.com"
<francis.moro at gmail.com>'compose.c:6335:Adding Newsgroups-fields
compose.c:6335:Adding Cc-fields
compose.c:6335:Adding Bcc-fields
utils.c:2096:domain name = localhost
compose.c:6335:Adding Followup-To-fields
compose.c:6335:Adding Reply-To-fields
autofaces.c:42:header content file 'xface.xxx' not found
autofaces.c:42:header content file 'xface' not found
autofaces.c:42:header content file 'face.xxx' not found
autofaces.c:42:header content file 'face' not found
compose.c:5601:src encoding = UTF-8, out encoding = US-ASCII, transfer
encoding = 7bit
compose.c:5659:main text: 0 bytes encoded as US-ASCII in 0
procmime.c:2642:procmime_write_mimeinfo
procmime.c:2492:procmime_write_message_rfc822
procmime.c:2411:procmime_write_mime_header
procmime.c:2642:procmime_write_mimeinfo
folder.c:2152:Scanning folder queue for cache changes.
mh.c:298:mh_get_num_list(): Scanning queue ...
current dir: /home/fmoreau/Mail/queue
mh.c:1420:MH: forced mtime of queue to 1441698135
msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service
files
msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
mh.c:255:mh_get_last_num(): Scanning queue ...
mh.c:283:Last number in dir queue = 0
msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
mh.c:1388:TIMING mh_write_sequences : 0s000ms
hooks.c:71:registed new hook for 'avatar_header_update' as id 1
msgcache.c:173:Cache size: 1 messages, 380 bytes
procmsg.c:2009:Changing flags for message 1 in folder queue
folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service
files
msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
procmsg.c:1615:Sending message by mail
progressdialog.c:68:Creating progress dialog...
** Message: Account 'xxx': Connecting to SMTP server: xxx...

send_message.c:400:send_message_smtp(): begin event loop
session.c:202:session (0x1326540): connected
[10:08:56] SMTP< 220 xxx
[10:08:56] ESMTP> EHLO localhost
[10:08:57] ESMTP< 250-smtp.xxx
[10:08:57] ESMTP< 250-AUTH LOGIN
[10:08:57] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME
[10:08:57] ESMTP< 250-SIZE
[10:08:57] ESMTP< 250-DSN
[10:08:57] ESMTP< 250 STARTTLS
[10:08:57] ESMTP> STARTTLS
[10:08:57] ESMTP< 220 Ready to start TLS
ssl.c:229:waiting for SSL_connect thread...
ssl.c:247:SSL_connect thread returned 0
ssl_certificate.c:260:got 164 certs in crt_list! 0x7ffe85690ad8
ssl_certificate.c:439:got /home/fmoreau/.claws-mail/certs/xxx.cert first try
ssl_certificate.c:260:got 1 certs in crt_list! 0x7ffe85690938
ssl_certificate.c:449:got cert 0x17f1220
ssl_certificate.c:176:writing 1899 bytes
ssl_certificate.c:176:writing 1688 bytes
[10:08:57] ESMTP> EHLO localhost
[10:08:57] ESMTP< 250-smtp.xxx
[10:08:57] ESMTP< 250-AUTH LOGIN
[10:08:57] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME
[10:08:57] ESMTP< 250-SIZE
[10:08:57] ESMTP< 250 DSN
[10:08:57] ESMTP> AUTH LOGIN
[10:08:57] ESMTP< 334 VXNlcm5hbWU6
[10:08:57] ESMTP> [USERID]
[10:08:57] ESMTP< 334 UGFzc3dvcmQ6
[10:08:57] ESMTP> [PASSWORD]
[10:08:58] ESMTP< 235 Authentication successful
[10:08:58] SMTP> MAIL FROM:<xxx>
[10:08:58] SMTP< 250 Ok
[10:08:58] SMTP> RCPT TO:<francis.moro at gmail.com>
[10:08:58] SMTP< 250 Ok
[10:08:58] SMTP> DATA
[10:08:58] SMTP< 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
[10:08:58] SMTP> . (EOM)
[10:08:58] SMTP< 250 Ok
** Message: Mail sent successfully.

[10:08:58] SMTP> QUIT
[10:08:58] SMTP< 221 smtp.xxx Closing transmission channel
session.c:376:session (0x1326540): closed
session.c:250:session (0x1326540): destroyed
msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
folder.c:4612:Folder xxx wants sync
msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
folder.c:4612:Folder xxx wants sync
mh.c:228:MH scan required, folder updated: /home/fmoreau/Mail/queue
(1441699736 > 1441698135)
msgcache.c:197:Cache size: 0 messages, 0 bytes
folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service
files
msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
folder.c:2152:Scanning folder queue for cache changes.
mh.c:298:mh_get_num_list(): Scanning queue ...
mh.c:1420:MH: forced mtime of queue to 1441699738
msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
folder.c:1213:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:895:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service
files
msgcache.c:277:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
addr_compl.c:768:end_address_completion ref count 0
hooks.c:90:unregisted hook 4 in 'folder_update'
gtkaspell.c:733:Aspell: Deleting gtkaspeller 0x127dce0.
gtkaspell.c:754:Aspell: gtkaspeller 0x127dce0 deleted.
gtkaspell.c:738:Aspell: number of existing checkers 0
gtkaspell.c:472:Aspell: deleting gtkaspell 0x12b0ec0
compose.c:5253:called inc_unlock (lock count 0)
folder.c:4612:Folder xxx wants sync
folder.c:4612:Folder xxx wants sync

Thanks.



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep  8 10:28:05 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 09:28:05 +0100
Subject: [Users] Saving copy of outgoing emails to current folder does
 not work
In-Reply-To: <55EE9943.2050503@gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBgxenfKFn3rE_ZQHKcEChzE+qEL7m7cByZcDvd9wVPPig@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150908071320.3be6dfc4@kujata> <55EE8900.9040601@gmail.com>
 <20150908081636.2104ab6d@kujata> <55EE8E14.4080202@gmail.com>
 <20150908083402.5062f118@kujata> <55EE92AB.1020003@gmail.com>
 <20150908090434.63f91de0@kujata> <55EE9943.2050503@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150908092805.17097dbf@kujata>

On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 10:16:03 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote: 

> Sorry, that's should be better:

Please send the whole debug log to me privately, off-list. Just start
with `claws-mail --debug`, create and send the message, then quit.

Please avoid blanking folder names with xxxx, and tell me what folder
you expect the copy of the sent mail to be saved in.

Remember! Send off-list!

with regards

Paul


From barry at python.org  Tue Sep  8 22:29:59 2015
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 16:29:59 -0400
Subject: [Users] Sent emails are never received (with gmail SMTP)
References: <CAC9WiBh3+315WY6rZbDLy=Rkr7OHacLrESG6HNfNC41Nppn-OQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150908162959.5a8c6940@anarchist.wooz.org>

On Sep 06, 2015, at 11:33 PM, Francis Moreau wrote:

>I'm having an issue when sending email through gmail SMTP. All seems
>to work fine, no error when sending emails but it seems that emails
>are lost somewhere and are never received. Could anybody help me to
>sort this out ?

If you're testing this by sending the message to yourself, then it's a known
Gmail "feature".  It's also a GNU Mailman FAQ:

http://wiki.list.org/x/4030680

Cheers,
-Barry
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep  9 03:04:18 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2015 01:04:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3516] New: vCard icon misplaced
Message-ID: <bug-3516-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3516

            Bug ID: 3516
           Summary: vCard icon misplaced
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Address Book
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: mones at users.sourceforge.net

Created attachment 1568
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1568&action=edit
vCard icon invading the row below

The icons for vCards are drawn so low that is drawn over the next row below.
Attached an screenshot showing the issue.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep  9 12:18:47 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2015 10:18:47 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2371] Port to GTK+3.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-2371-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2371-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2371-595-kkKoHmYAf0@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2371

James Le Cuirot <chewi at aura-online.co.uk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |chewi at aura-online.co.uk

--- Comment #42 from James Le Cuirot <chewi at aura-online.co.uk> ---
Time to stoke up this fire?

https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/b7557da35aae07b6906f8a64f626f64c

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From francis.moro at gmail.com  Wed Sep  9 16:47:22 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:47:22 +0200
Subject: [Users] Default sort method used by all folders
Message-ID: <55F0467A.3060707@gmail.com>

Hi,

Is it possible to change the default sort method.

It's currently set to 'By date' and I like the default to be 'By thread
date' for any new folders.

Thanks


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep  9 18:15:36 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 17:15:36 +0100
Subject: [Users] Default sort method used by all folders
In-Reply-To: <55F0467A.3060707@gmail.com>
References: <55F0467A.3060707@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150909171536.6fcaffe7@kujata>

On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:47:22 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote: 

> Is it possible to change the default sort method.

I just added a preference for that to GIT. No UI yet.

with regards

Paul


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Wed Sep  9 18:18:49 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 18:18:49 +0200
Subject: [Users] Default sort method used by all folders
In-Reply-To: <20150909171536.6fcaffe7@kujata>
References: <55F0467A.3060707@gmail.com> <20150909171536.6fcaffe7@kujata>
Message-ID: <55F05BE9.1050300@gmail.com>

On 09/09/2015 06:15 PM, Paul wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:47:22 +0200
> Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
>> Is it possible to change the default sort method.
> 
> I just added a preference for that to GIT. No UI yet.
> 

Cool !

Also does your change allow to choose the default for
'ascending/descending' order ?



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep  9 18:28:08 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 17:28:08 +0100
Subject: [Users] Default sort method used by all folders
In-Reply-To: <55F05BE9.1050300@gmail.com>
References: <55F0467A.3060707@gmail.com> <20150909171536.6fcaffe7@kujata>
 <55F05BE9.1050300@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150909172808.1194b150@kujata>

On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 18:18:49 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote: 

> Also does your change allow to choose the default for
> 'ascending/descending' order ?

Yes!

And hopefully there'll be a UI for the options before the next
release.

with regards

Paul


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Wed Sep  9 18:46:33 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 18:46:33 +0200
Subject: [Users] Default sort method used by all folders
In-Reply-To: <20150909172808.1194b150@kujata>
References: <55F0467A.3060707@gmail.com> <20150909171536.6fcaffe7@kujata>
 <55F05BE9.1050300@gmail.com> <20150909172808.1194b150@kujata>
Message-ID: <55F06269.3020407@gmail.com>

On 09/09/2015 06:28 PM, Paul wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 18:18:49 +0200
> Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
>> Also does your change allow to choose the default for
>> 'ascending/descending' order ?
> 
> Yes!
> 
> And hopefully there'll be a UI for the options before the next
> release.
> 

Wonderful !



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep 10 22:56:49 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 20:56:49 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3495] IPv6 specific name resolution Error
In-Reply-To: <bug-3495-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3495-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3495-595-ZK3QX2W3Sa@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3495

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
I have just fixed this in git. IPv6, both using hostnames and plain IP
addresses, will be working in next release.

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You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Sep 11 09:35:45 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 08:35:45 +0100
Subject: [Users] Saving copy of outgoing emails to current folder does
 not work
In-Reply-To: <20150908092805.17097dbf@kujata>
References: <CAC9WiBgxenfKFn3rE_ZQHKcEChzE+qEL7m7cByZcDvd9wVPPig@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150908071320.3be6dfc4@kujata> <55EE8900.9040601@gmail.com>
 <20150908081636.2104ab6d@kujata> <55EE8E14.4080202@gmail.com>
 <20150908083402.5062f118@kujata> <55EE92AB.1020003@gmail.com>
 <20150908090434.63f91de0@kujata> <55EE9943.2050503@gmail.com>
 <20150908092805.17097dbf@kujata>
Message-ID: <20150911083545.36259ad4@kujata>

Hi,

Just for the record, it turned out that the sent messages were not
saved because, although where to save them had been configured, the
option to actually save sent messages had been turned off.

regards

Paul


From epodata at gmail.com  Fri Sep 11 10:27:12 2015
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 10:27:12 +0200
Subject: [Users] Filter question.
Message-ID: <20150911102712.73cefd66@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>

Is there a way to filter outgoing mail like there is for incomming mail?

-- 
Erik


From moxalt at riseup.net  Fri Sep 11 16:25:58 2015
From: moxalt at riseup.net (moxalt)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 17:25:58 +0300
Subject: [Users] Filter question.
In-Reply-To: <20150911102712.73cefd66@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20150911102712.73cefd66@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20150911172558.47455598.moxalt@riseup.net>

What do you intend to accomplish by this? Surely it is up to the receiving
party to filter incoming mail as they wish?


From epodata at gmail.com  Fri Sep 11 17:03:11 2015
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 17:03:11 +0200
Subject: [Users] Filter question.
In-Reply-To: <20150911172558.47455598.moxalt@riseup.net>
References: <20150911102712.73cefd66@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20150911172558.47455598.moxalt@riseup.net>
Message-ID: <20150911170311.57316257@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>

On 2015-09-11 at 17:25:58 moxalt wrote:

> What do you intend to accomplish by this? Surely it is up to the
> receiving party to filter incoming mail as they wish?

I want to filter sent mail into various of my own folders.

-- 
Erik

 


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Sep 11 17:12:10 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 16:12:10 +0100
Subject: [Users] Filter question.
In-Reply-To: <20150911170311.57316257@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20150911102712.73cefd66@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20150911172558.47455598.moxalt@riseup.net>
 <20150911170311.57316257@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20150911161210.53a84cc7@kujata>

On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 17:03:11 +0200
"Erik P. Olsen" <epodata at gmail.com> wrote: 

> I want to filter sent mail into various of my own folders.

based on sending account or based on recipient?

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Sep 11 17:12:39 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 16:12:39 +0100
Subject: [Users] Filter question.
In-Reply-To: <20150911102712.73cefd66@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
References: <20150911102712.73cefd66@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
Message-ID: <20150911161239.1fa753f9@kujata>

On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 10:27:12 +0200
"Erik P. Olsen" <epodata at gmail.com> wrote: 

> Is there a way to filter outgoing mail like there is for incomming
> mail?

No, but you could use processing rules on your sent folder.

with regards

Paul


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Fri Sep 11 18:15:37 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 18:15:37 +0200
Subject: [Users] Bad bug, moving a folder losts its content :(
Message-ID: <55F2FE29.4050403@gmail.com>

Hello,

Ok, my first serious bug with Claws :(

When moving a folder from an IMAP account into a different folder inside the
same account, Claws moved the folder but all its content was lost :( !

It's 100% reproductible and doing the same move with Thunderbird works
perfectly fine.

Here's the network log when doing the move:

[18:01:56] IMAP4> 98 LIST "" "Travels/Misc"
[18:01:56] IMAP4< 98 OK LIST completed
[18:01:56] IMAP4> 99 CREATE "Travels/Misc"
[18:01:56] IMAP4< 99 OK CREATE completed
[18:01:56] IMAP4> 100 LIST "" "Travels/Misc"
[18:01:56] IMAP4< * LIST (\Unmarked) "/" "Travels/Misc"
[18:01:56] IMAP4< 100 OK LIST completed
[18:01:56] IMAP4> 101 SUBSCRIBE "Travels/Misc"
[18:01:56] IMAP4< 101 OK SUBSCRIBE completed
* Moving Misc to Travels/Misc...
[18:01:56] IMAP4> 102 UID COPY 1 "Travels/Misc"
[18:01:56] IMAP4< 102 BAD UID Command, state, or parameter
** IMAP error on gwmail.xxx.com: protocol error(very probably non-RFC
compliance from the server)
** IMAP4 connection broken
* Account 'fmoreau at xxx.com': Connecting to IMAP4 server:
gwmail.xxx.com:993...
[18:01:56] IMAP4< * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 AUTH=PLAIN
AUTH=XGWTRUSTEDAPP UNSELECT XGWEXTENSIONS] GroupWise Server Ready
* IMAP connection is un-authenticated
[18:01:56] IMAP4> 1 CAPABILITY
[18:01:56] IMAP4< * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=XGWTRUSTEDAPP
UNSELECT XGWEXTENSIONS
[18:01:57] IMAP4< 1 OK CAPABILITY completed
[18:01:57] IMAP4> Logging fmoreau to gwmail.xxx.com using LOGIN
[18:01:57] IMAP4< LOGIN completed
[18:01:57] IMAP4< Login to gwmail.xxx.com successful
[18:01:57] IMAP4> 3 LIST "" ""
[18:01:57] IMAP4< * LIST (\Noselect) "/" ""
[18:01:57] IMAP4< 3 OK LIST completed
[18:01:57] IMAP4> 4 SELECT "Administration/Misc"
[18:01:57] IMAP4< * 1 EXISTS
[18:01:58] IMAP4< * 0 RECENT
[18:01:58] IMAP4< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1441987290]
[18:01:58] IMAP4< * OK [UIDNEXT 2]
[18:01:58] IMAP4< * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft \Seen)
[18:01:58] IMAP4< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted
\Draft \Seen \*)]
[18:01:58] IMAP4< 4 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed
[18:01:58] IMAP4> 5 UID STORE 1 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted)
[18:01:58] IMAP4< 5 OK UID STORE completed
[18:01:58] IMAP4> 6 EXPUNGE
[18:01:58] IMAP4< * 1 EXPUNGE
[18:01:58] IMAP4< 6 OK EXPUNGE completed
[18:01:58] IMAP4> 7 UNSUBSCRIBE "Administration/Misc"
[18:01:58] IMAP4< 7 OK UNSUBSCRIBE completed
[18:01:58] IMAP4> 8 CLOSE
[18:01:58] IMAP4< 8 OK CLOSE completed
[18:01:58] IMAP4> 9 DELETE "Administration/Misc"
[18:01:58] IMAP4< 9 OK DELETE completed
[18:01:58] IMAP4> 10 STATUS "Travels/Misc" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY
UNSEEN)
[18:01:58] IMAP4< * STATUS "Travels/Misc" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 1
UIDVALIDITY 1441987318 UNSEEN 0)
[18:01:58] IMAP4< 10 OK STATUS completed
[18:01:58] IMAP4> 11 SELECT "Travels/Misc"
[18:01:58] IMAP4< * 0 EXISTS
[18:01:58] IMAP4< * 0 RECENT
[18:01:58] IMAP4< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1441987318]
[18:01:58] IMAP4< * OK [UIDNEXT 1]
[18:01:58] IMAP4< * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft \Seen)
[18:01:58] IMAP4< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted
\Draft \Seen \*)]
[18:01:58] IMAP4< 11 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed
[18:01:58] IMAP4- [fetching UIDs...]
[18:01:58] IMAP4> 12 UID FETCH 1:* (UID)
[18:01:58] IMAP4< 12 OK UID FETCH completed


From mir at miras.org  Fri Sep 11 18:23:16 2015
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 18:23:16 +0200
Subject: [Users] Bad bug, moving a folder losts its content :(
In-Reply-To: <55F2FE29.4050403@gmail.com>
References: <55F2FE29.4050403@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150911182316.1c048325@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 18:15:37 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Ok, my first serious bug with Claws :(
> 
> When moving a folder from an IMAP account into a different folder inside the
> same account, Claws moved the folder but all its content was lost :( !
> 
> It's 100% reproductible and doing the same move with Thunderbird works
> perfectly fine.
> 
Could it be that you have this feature active: 'Only show subscribed
folders' and that you have forgotten to add the new folder to
subscribed folders?

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917
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From francis.moro at gmail.com  Fri Sep 11 18:45:35 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 18:45:35 +0200
Subject: [Users] Bad bug, moving a folder losts its content :(
In-Reply-To: <20150911182316.1c048325@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <55F2FE29.4050403@gmail.com>
 <20150911182316.1c048325@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <55F3052F.3060406@gmail.com>

On 09/11/2015 06:23 PM, Michael Rasmussen wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 18:15:37 +0200 Francis Moreau
> <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Ok, my first serious bug with Claws :(
>> 
>> When moving a folder from an IMAP account into a different folder
>> inside the same account, Claws moved the folder but all its
>> content was lost :( !
>> 
>> It's 100% reproductible and doing the same move with Thunderbird
>> works perfectly fine.
>> 
> Could it be that you have this feature active: 'Only show
> subscribed folders' and that you have forgotten to add the new
> folder to subscribed folders?

I have indeed this feature activated, but since I'm seeing the moved
folder, I assume that I'm already subscribed to the folder which is
not new BTW.

I also tried to access from other clients but the folder remains empty.


From rsv869 at runbox.com  Fri Sep 11 21:22:11 2015
From: rsv869 at runbox.com (Reid Vail)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 15:22:11 -0400
Subject: [Users] vCalendar - queued message remains
Message-ID: <20150911152211.5a5a21fa@rsv2-Serval-Professional>

Hello group -

I have installed the vCalendar pluggin and it works nicely and allows me to see,
respond to and create calendar invites.  

One thing I notice, though, is that send calendar invites or responses leave a copy
in the Queue folder even after it has been successfully sent. Can that be right?

Thanks

Reid


From epodata at gmail.com  Sat Sep 12 08:10:56 2015
From: epodata at gmail.com (Erik P. Olsen)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 08:10:56 +0200
Subject: [Users] Filter question.
In-Reply-To: <20150911161239.1fa753f9@kujata>
References: <20150911102712.73cefd66@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>
 <20150911161239.1fa753f9@kujata>
Message-ID: <20150912081056.1ab70083@Erik-PC.epolan.dk>

On 2015-09-11 at 16:12:39 Paul wrote:

> On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 10:27:12 +0200
> "Erik P. Olsen" <epodata at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> > Is there a way to filter outgoing mail like there is for incomming
> > mail?
> 
> No, but you could use processing rules on your sent folder.

Thanks, I'll look into that possibility.

-- 
Erik


From claws-mail at bercot.org  Mon Sep 14 08:58:46 2015
From: claws-mail at bercot.org (David BERCOT)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 08:58:46 +0200
Subject: [Users] GData plugin
Message-ID: <20150914085846.77a54438@debian-david>

Hello,

I have a problem with the GData plugin. At each boot, I have the same popup : "GData plugin: Authorization required".
Of course, I follow the instructions and I put the right code.

Do you know why I have this question each day ? The information is not saved ? Do you know where I can find it to investigate ?

Thank you very much.

David.
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep 14 09:29:30 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 08:29:30 +0100
Subject: [Users] GData plugin
In-Reply-To: <20150914085846.77a54438@debian-david>
References: <20150914085846.77a54438@debian-david>
Message-ID: <20150914082930.6090edc3@kujata>

On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 08:58:46 +0200
David BERCOT <claws-mail at bercot.org> wrote: 

> Do you know why I have this question each day ? The information is
> not saved ? Do you know where I can find it to investigate ?

google switched off client login. You need to upgrade libgdata to
version 0.17.1 or newer to avoid this problem.

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep 14 09:33:12 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 08:33:12 +0100
Subject: [Users] GData plugin
In-Reply-To: <20150914082930.6090edc3@kujata>
References: <20150914085846.77a54438@debian-david>
 <20150914082930.6090edc3@kujata>
Message-ID: <20150914083312.45cfcb87@kujata>

On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 08:29:30 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote: 

> upgrade libgdata to version 0.17.1

On second thoughts, it could be that 0.17.2 is needed. (Not sure, I
don't use google services.)

with regards

Paul


From niklaas at kulturflatrate.net  Mon Sep 14 10:39:15 2015
From: niklaas at kulturflatrate.net (Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 10:39:15 +0200
Subject: [Users] Archiving like Thunderbird (or how you handle your mail)
Message-ID: <20150914103915.7b649133@len-t420.klaas>

Hi,

I've already used a plenty of MUAs, from Outlook, Mail etc. to
Thunderbird, alpine, and mutt. Now it's Claws and, so far, I am quite
happy with it (the best solution would be a web client but there hasn't
been released a proper one yet).

I get quite a lot of mails so my inbox tends to get quite full (known
problem I guess). In Thunderbird I set up the archive feature to save
my mail in a folder structure like

Archives
`-- 2015
 `-- 09
  |-- email #1 of September, 2015
  `-- email #2 of September, 2015

i.e. an archive sorted by years and months. This is quite handy: Once I
read an email in my inbox and I don't need it anymore I just pressed
"a" and it got archived. If the email was pending I would have left it
in the inbox. This way my inbox didn't get too chaotic and I could
always see the pending stuff at first glance when I opened my mail
client. And for reference I just searched through the archive or
remembered when an issue was important so I could check in the folder
in question.

Is there a way to implement this feature in Claws? Maybe with a python
script? (I don't know python though, so I'd need some help.) I was able
to implement that in mutt with a bit of sh scripting (which I know a
bit). In Claws, I know about the processing and filter rules but I
don't have a clue how to save mail depending on the current month or
the month when an email was sent/received.

Any help is very much appreciated.

Best,

-- 

    Niklaas


From claws-mail at bercot.org  Mon Sep 14 11:22:34 2015
From: claws-mail at bercot.org (David BERCOT)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 11:22:34 +0200
Subject: [Users] GData plugin
In-Reply-To: <20150914083312.45cfcb87@kujata>
References: <20150914085846.77a54438@debian-david>
 <20150914082930.6090edc3@kujata> <20150914083312.45cfcb87@kujata>
Message-ID: <20150914112234.69dddd66@debian-david>

Le Mon, 14 Sep 2015 08:33:12 +0100,
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> a écrit :
> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 08:29:30 +0100
> Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote: 
> 
> > upgrade libgdata to version 0.17.1  
> 
> On second thoughts, it could be that 0.17.2 is needed. (Not sure, I
> don't use google services.)

Well, probably ;-)

$ apt-cache policy libgdata22
libgdata22:
  Installé : 0.17.2-1
  Candidat : 0.17.2-1
 Table de version :
 *** 0.17.2-1 0
        400 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ testing/main amd64 Packages
        600 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages

I'll wait for 0.17.2.

Thank you.

David.
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From francis.moro at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 15:16:46 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 15:16:46 +0200
Subject: [Users] Bad bug, moving a folder losts its content :(
In-Reply-To: <55F2FE29.4050403@gmail.com>
References: <55F2FE29.4050403@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55F6C8BE.40606@gmail.com>

Hi,

Here how I did it, it's quite simple to reproduce on an IMAP account:

  1. Create a folder in INBOX/lists/test
  2. Put an email in that folder
  3. Move the folder 'test' in INBOX/
  4. 'test' should still contain the email
  5. Move back 'test' folder in INBOX/lists/
  6. 'test' folder is now empty :-/

So it's a quite severe bug IMHO, so it would be nice if someone could
look at it.

Thanks

On 09/11/2015 06:15 PM, Francis Moreau wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Ok, my first serious bug with Claws :(
> 
> When moving a folder from an IMAP account into a different folder inside the
> same account, Claws moved the folder but all its content was lost :( !
> 
> It's 100% reproductible and doing the same move with Thunderbird works
> perfectly fine.
> 
> Here's the network log when doing the move:
> 
> [18:01:56] IMAP4> 98 LIST "" "Travels/Misc"
> [18:01:56] IMAP4< 98 OK LIST completed
> [18:01:56] IMAP4> 99 CREATE "Travels/Misc"
> [18:01:56] IMAP4< 99 OK CREATE completed
> [18:01:56] IMAP4> 100 LIST "" "Travels/Misc"
> [18:01:56] IMAP4< * LIST (\Unmarked) "/" "Travels/Misc"
> [18:01:56] IMAP4< 100 OK LIST completed
> [18:01:56] IMAP4> 101 SUBSCRIBE "Travels/Misc"
> [18:01:56] IMAP4< 101 OK SUBSCRIBE completed
> * Moving Misc to Travels/Misc...
> [18:01:56] IMAP4> 102 UID COPY 1 "Travels/Misc"
> [18:01:56] IMAP4< 102 BAD UID Command, state, or parameter
> ** IMAP error on gwmail.xxx.com: protocol error(very probably non-RFC
> compliance from the server)
> ** IMAP4 connection broken
> * Account 'fmoreau at xxx.com': Connecting to IMAP4 server:
> gwmail.xxx.com:993...
> [18:01:56] IMAP4< * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 AUTH=PLAIN
> AUTH=XGWTRUSTEDAPP UNSELECT XGWEXTENSIONS] GroupWise Server Ready
> * IMAP connection is un-authenticated
> [18:01:56] IMAP4> 1 CAPABILITY
> [18:01:56] IMAP4< * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=XGWTRUSTEDAPP
> UNSELECT XGWEXTENSIONS
> [18:01:57] IMAP4< 1 OK CAPABILITY completed
> [18:01:57] IMAP4> Logging fmoreau to gwmail.xxx.com using LOGIN
> [18:01:57] IMAP4< LOGIN completed
> [18:01:57] IMAP4< Login to gwmail.xxx.com successful
> [18:01:57] IMAP4> 3 LIST "" ""
> [18:01:57] IMAP4< * LIST (\Noselect) "/" ""
> [18:01:57] IMAP4< 3 OK LIST completed
> [18:01:57] IMAP4> 4 SELECT "Administration/Misc"
> [18:01:57] IMAP4< * 1 EXISTS
> [18:01:58] IMAP4< * 0 RECENT
> [18:01:58] IMAP4< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1441987290]
> [18:01:58] IMAP4< * OK [UIDNEXT 2]
> [18:01:58] IMAP4< * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft \Seen)
> [18:01:58] IMAP4< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted
> \Draft \Seen \*)]
> [18:01:58] IMAP4< 4 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed
> [18:01:58] IMAP4> 5 UID STORE 1 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted)
> [18:01:58] IMAP4< 5 OK UID STORE completed
> [18:01:58] IMAP4> 6 EXPUNGE
> [18:01:58] IMAP4< * 1 EXPUNGE
> [18:01:58] IMAP4< 6 OK EXPUNGE completed
> [18:01:58] IMAP4> 7 UNSUBSCRIBE "Administration/Misc"
> [18:01:58] IMAP4< 7 OK UNSUBSCRIBE completed
> [18:01:58] IMAP4> 8 CLOSE
> [18:01:58] IMAP4< 8 OK CLOSE completed
> [18:01:58] IMAP4> 9 DELETE "Administration/Misc"
> [18:01:58] IMAP4< 9 OK DELETE completed
> [18:01:58] IMAP4> 10 STATUS "Travels/Misc" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY
> UNSEEN)
> [18:01:58] IMAP4< * STATUS "Travels/Misc" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 1
> UIDVALIDITY 1441987318 UNSEEN 0)
> [18:01:58] IMAP4< 10 OK STATUS completed
> [18:01:58] IMAP4> 11 SELECT "Travels/Misc"
> [18:01:58] IMAP4< * 0 EXISTS
> [18:01:58] IMAP4< * 0 RECENT
> [18:01:58] IMAP4< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1441987318]
> [18:01:58] IMAP4< * OK [UIDNEXT 1]
> [18:01:58] IMAP4< * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft \Seen)
> [18:01:58] IMAP4< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted
> \Draft \Seen \*)]
> [18:01:58] IMAP4< 11 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed
> [18:01:58] IMAP4- [fetching UIDs...]
> [18:01:58] IMAP4> 12 UID FETCH 1:* (UID)
> [18:01:58] IMAP4< 12 OK UID FETCH completed
> 



From andrej at kacian.sk  Mon Sep 14 15:30:23 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 15:30:23 +0200
Subject: [Users] Bad bug, moving a folder losts its content :(
In-Reply-To: <55F6C8BE.40606@gmail.com>
References: <55F2FE29.4050403@gmail.com>
	<55F6C8BE.40606@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150914153023.674a20b5@hiker>

On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 15:16:46 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:

> Here how I did it, it's quite simple to reproduce on an IMAP account:
> 
>   1. Create a folder in INBOX/lists/test
>   2. Put an email in that folder
>   3. Move the folder 'test' in INBOX/
>   4. 'test' should still contain the email
>   5. Move back 'test' folder in INBOX/lists/
>   6. 'test' folder is now empty :-/
> 
> So it's a quite severe bug IMHO, so it would be nice if someone could
> look at it.

Hi,

what if you use "Rebuild folder tree" option after the failed move? By
looking at the IMAP transcript in your initial post, it looks like the
new folder (Travel/Misc) is being created, but the server errors out
when Claws Mail tries to copy first message to it (looks like the
server does not support "UID COPY" command).

At no point do I see deletion of content of old folder, or old folder
itself, so it should at least still be there on the server.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 21:19:19 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 21:19:19 +0200
Subject: [Users] Bad bug, moving a folder losts its content :(
In-Reply-To: <20150914153023.674a20b5@hiker>
References: <55F2FE29.4050403@gmail.com> <55F6C8BE.40606@gmail.com>
 <20150914153023.674a20b5@hiker>
Message-ID: <CAC9WiBhqz0vFRxA0OBpvi2u1mOBrTYGgAv7R5gLC0QSKCYj_ww@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 15:16:46 +0200
> Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Here how I did it, it's quite simple to reproduce on an IMAP account:
>>
>>   1. Create a folder in INBOX/lists/test
>>   2. Put an email in that folder
>>   3. Move the folder 'test' in INBOX/
>>   4. 'test' should still contain the email
>>   5. Move back 'test' folder in INBOX/lists/
>>   6. 'test' folder is now empty :-/
>>
>> So it's a quite severe bug IMHO, so it would be nice if someone could
>> look at it.
>
> Hi,
>
> what if you use "Rebuild folder tree" option after the failed move?

That doesn't help.

> By
> looking at the IMAP transcript in your initial post, it looks like the
> new folder (Travel/Misc) is being created, but the server errors out
> when Claws Mail tries to copy first message to it (looks like the
> server does not support "UID COPY" command).

Yes that seems specific to this server: I tried to reproduce on my
GMAIL account but I couldn't.

>
> At no point do I see deletion of content of old folder, or old folder
> itself, so it should at least still be there on the server.

Well, I tried to find it with thunderbird, but failed. And the old
folder doesn't exist anymore.

Thanks
-- 
Francis


From berndth at gmx.de  Mon Sep 14 21:48:53 2015
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 21:48:53 +0200
Subject: [Users] GData plugin
In-Reply-To: <20150914112234.69dddd66@debian-david>
References: <20150914085846.77a54438@debian-david>
 <20150914082930.6090edc3@kujata> <20150914083312.45cfcb87@kujata>
 <20150914112234.69dddd66@debian-david>
Message-ID: <20150914214853.6dfbcb05@wodan>

On Mo, 14.09.2015 11:22, David BERCOT wrote:

>I'll wait for 0.17.2.

Yes, at least libgdata version 0.17.2 and a re-compile of the plugin is
required to make it remember authentification accross re-starts.

Holger
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From berndth at gmx.de  Mon Sep 14 22:50:39 2015
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 22:50:39 +0200
Subject: [Users] Archiving like Thunderbird (or how you handle your mail)
In-Reply-To: <20150914103915.7b649133@len-t420.klaas>
References: <20150914103915.7b649133@len-t420.klaas>
Message-ID: <20150914225039.1a934bb7@wodan>

Hallo Niklaas,

On Mo, 14.09.2015 10:39, Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff wrote:

>I get quite a lot of mails so my inbox tends to get quite full (known
>problem I guess). In Thunderbird I set up the archive feature to save
>my mail in a folder structure like
>
>Archives
>`-- 2015
> `-- 09
>  |-- email #1 of September, 2015  
>  `-- email #2 of September, 2015
>
>i.e. an archive sorted by years and months.

[...]

>Is there a way to implement this feature in Claws? Maybe with a python
>script? (I don't know python though, so I'd need some help.) I was able
>to implement that in mutt with a bit of sh scripting (which I know a
>bit). In Claws, I know about the processing and filter rules but I
>don't have a clue how to save mail depending on the current month or
>the month when an email was sent/received.

Should be doable with the Python plugin, depending on how exactly you
want it to work. Attached script "Archive1" moves the selected messages
in your archive folder according to the current date, "Archive2" moves
the messages according to the "Date" header of the respective message.

In any case, you have to modify the scripts to point to your target
archive root folder (variable target_folder_identifier).

Holger
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From ricardo at mones.org  Tue Sep 15 08:51:57 2015
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 08:51:57 +0200
Subject: [Users] GData plugin
In-Reply-To: <20150914112234.69dddd66@debian-david>
References: <20150914085846.77a54438@debian-david>
 <20150914082930.6090edc3@kujata> <20150914083312.45cfcb87@kujata>
 <20150914112234.69dddd66@debian-david>
Message-ID: <20150915065157.GA2119@busgosu.mones.org>

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 11:22:34AM +0200, David BERCOT wrote:
> Le Mon, 14 Sep 2015 08:33:12 +0100,
> Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> a écrit :
> > On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 08:29:30 +0100
> > Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote: 
> > 
> > > upgrade libgdata to version 0.17.1  
> > 
> > On second thoughts, it could be that 0.17.2 is needed. (Not sure, I
> > don't use google services.)
> 
> Well, probably ;-)
> 
> $ apt-cache policy libgdata22
> libgdata22:
>   Installé : 0.17.2-1
>   Candidat : 0.17.2-1
>  Table de version :
>  *** 0.17.2-1 0
>         400 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ testing/main amd64 Packages
>         600 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
> 
> I'll wait for 0.17.2.

Unless it's a different system the above says you already have 0.17.2
installed. But this version still may resort to interactive authorization
if refreshing with the saved token fails, watch network log for this.

HTH,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  Datei nicht gefunden                                     Fehler 404

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From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Tue Sep 15 12:30:21 2015
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 12:30:21 +0200
Subject: [Users] Maintaining local mailboxes
Message-ID: <20150915123021.36a98fb7@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

I use Claws with a number of IMAP accounts.

Can I use Claws to maintain mailboxes on my local disk? Not as spool, but as archive?

When I use File > Add Mailbox > mbox (etPan!) it creates a folder on disk,
but I cannot move messages into that folder.

File > Add Mailbox > MH creates a folder on disk, with subfolders like
inbox, sent, etc but this is what I rather would avoid.

-- Johan


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep 15 12:42:11 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 11:42:11 +0100
Subject: [Users] Maintaining local mailboxes
In-Reply-To: <20150915123021.36a98fb7@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
References: <20150915123021.36a98fb7@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <20150915114211.7695b486@kujata>

On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 12:30:21 +0200
Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl> wrote: 

> File > Add Mailbox > MH creates a folder on disk, with subfolders
> like inbox, sent, etc but this is what I rather would avoid.

Why would you rather avoid that? MH is the standard Claws-Mail
mailbox format and therefore recommended over MBOX.

with regards

Paul


From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Tue Sep 15 13:30:52 2015
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:30:52 +0200
Subject: [Users] Maintaining local mailboxes
In-Reply-To: <20150915114211.7695b486@kujata>
References: <20150915123021.36a98fb7@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915114211.7695b486@kujata>
Message-ID: <20150915133052.09f836b4@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 11:42:11 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> Why would you rather avoid that? MH is the standard Claws-Mail
> mailbox format and therefore recommended over MBOX.

For example, I want to archive messages from company ACME from the IMAP
server to my local disk. So I would like to create a folder ACME where I can
store the messages in. There's no need for a collection of subfolders
like Inbox, Sent, Drafts, Queue and Trash.

-- Johan


From gour at atmarama.net  Tue Sep 15 13:38:19 2015
From: gour at atmarama.net (Gour)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:38:19 +0200
Subject: [Users] Maintaining local mailboxes
References: <20150915123021.36a98fb7@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915114211.7695b486@kujata>
 <20150915133052.09f836b4@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <20150915133819.24208e9b@atmarama.ddns.net>

On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:30:52 +0200
Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl> wrote:

> For example, I want to archive messages from company ACME from the
> IMAP server to my local disk. So I would like to create a folder ACME
> where I can store the messages in. There's no need for a collection
> of subfolders like Inbox, Sent, Drafts, Queue and Trash.

I've created folder 'archive' as subfolder of local MH account and keep
archived messages per year under it, iow. archive/2014, archive/2013
etc. while Inbox/Sent/Junk etc. folders are in case if some of my rules
fails, for spam etc.

Sincerely,
Gour

-- 
Before giving up this present body, if one is able to tolerate 
the urges of the material senses and check the force of desire and 
anger, he is well situated and is happy in this world.




From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Tue Sep 15 13:44:25 2015
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:44:25 +0200
Subject: [Users] Maintaining local mailboxes
In-Reply-To: <20150915133819.24208e9b@atmarama.ddns.net>
References: <20150915123021.36a98fb7@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915114211.7695b486@kujata>
 <20150915133052.09f836b4@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915133819.24208e9b@atmarama.ddns.net>
Message-ID: <20150915134425.04a4a5be@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:38:19 +0200
Gour <gour at atmarama.net> wrote:


> I've created folder 'archive' as subfolder of local MH account and keep
> archived messages per year under it, iow. archive/2014, archive/2013
> etc. while Inbox/Sent/Junk etc. folders are in case if some of my rules
> fails, for spam etc.

Yes, I've considered this approach (in fact, I use it for other purposes).

For the case I described the mail folders are spread over the disk (they
are part of the project structure) so I cannot combine them in a single
tree.

-- Johan


From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Tue Sep 15 21:10:45 2015
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 15:10:45 -0400
Subject: [Users] Maintaining local mailboxes
In-Reply-To: <20150915134425.04a4a5be@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
References: <20150915123021.36a98fb7@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915114211.7695b486@kujata>
 <20150915133052.09f836b4@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915133819.24208e9b@atmarama.ddns.net>
 <20150915134425.04a4a5be@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <20150915151045.2c003499@mydesq2.domain.cxm>

On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:44:25 +0200
Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl> wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:38:19 +0200
> Gour <gour at atmarama.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> > I've created folder 'archive' as subfolder of local MH account and
> > keep archived messages per year under it, iow. archive/2014,
> > archive/2013 etc. while Inbox/Sent/Junk etc. folders are in case if
> > some of my rules fails, for spam etc.
> 
> Yes, I've considered this approach (in fact, I use it for other
> purposes).
> 
> For the case I described the mail folders are spread over the disk
> (they are part of the project structure) so I cannot combine them in
> a single tree.
> 
> -- Johan

Others have responded to your question, but I'd like to offer a
possibility that's related but non-responsive to your question.

I have an ssl-only Dovecot IMAP server running on my desktop computer.
From a hardware standpoint, it's "local storage". Claws addresses it as
an "account", meaning it has one Inbox/Sent/Junk etc., but it can have
any subfolder structure I want, and I can restructure it from within
Claws. This gives me the following benefits:

1) I can access it using any IMAP aware email client.

2) Via a firewall pinhole, I can access it while on the road. No need
   to re-sync when I get home.

3) I populate it via a fetchmail->procmail pipe, meaning I can make my
   filters via procmail recipes. These filters are trivial to back up,
   and are email client agnostic.

4) Backing up my Dovecot folders is an rsync command, after
   temporarily shutting down the fetchmail populator.

5) If Claws-Mail ever transitions into garbage, the way Kmail did a
   decade ago, in a matter of minutes I can swap in any other IMAP
   compatible email client. After having Kmail disintegrate on me, I
   vowed never again to let an email client hold my existing email
   hostage. Now I don't have to.

Anyway, in case the preceding might be of value to you, I posted it.

SteveT

Steve Litt 
August 2015 featured book: Troubleshooting: Just the Facts
http://www.troubleshooters.com/tjust


From gour at atmarama.net  Tue Sep 15 21:34:39 2015
From: gour at atmarama.net (Gour)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 21:34:39 +0200
Subject: [Users] Maintaining local mailboxes
References: <20150915123021.36a98fb7@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915114211.7695b486@kujata>
 <20150915133052.09f836b4@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915133819.24208e9b@atmarama.ddns.net>
 <20150915134425.04a4a5be@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915151045.2c003499@mydesq2.domain.cxm>
Message-ID: <20150915213439.02df4a33@atmarama.ddns.net>

On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 15:10:45 -0400
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

> 2) Via a firewall pinhole, I can access it while on the road. No need
>    to re-sync when I get home.

I was running my own Dovecot running on localhost, but gave up on it
since it's mor complicated setup and have need to (occasionally) access
my email from Androidp phone which means that my machine should be
online 24/7, right?

> 3) I populate it via a fetchmail->procmail pipe, meaning I can make my
>    filters via procmail recipes. These filters are trivial to back up,
>    and are email client agnostic.

I used getmail/maildrop which I personally find nicer.

> 5) If Claws-Mail ever transitions into garbage, 

It is around for quite some time and so far I never had seen that devs
are doing rapid changes...

> the way Kmail did a decade ago, 

as it happened with KMail, afaict (I never really used it as email
client).


Sincerely,
Gour

-- 
It is far better to discharge one's prescribed duties, even though 
faultily, than another's duties perfectly.




From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Tue Sep 15 23:18:40 2015
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 17:18:40 -0400
Subject: [Users] Maintaining local mailboxes
In-Reply-To: <20150915213439.02df4a33@atmarama.ddns.net>
References: <20150915123021.36a98fb7@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915114211.7695b486@kujata>
 <20150915133052.09f836b4@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915133819.24208e9b@atmarama.ddns.net>
 <20150915134425.04a4a5be@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915151045.2c003499@mydesq2.domain.cxm>
 <20150915213439.02df4a33@atmarama.ddns.net>
Message-ID: <20150915171840.60226340@mydesq2.domain.cxm>

On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 21:34:39 +0200
Gour <gour at atmarama.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 15:10:45 -0400
> Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:
> 
> > 2) Via a firewall pinhole, I can access it while on the road. No
> > need to re-sync when I get home.
> 
> I was running my own Dovecot running on localhost, but gave up on it
> since it's mor complicated setup and have need to (occasionally)
> access my email from Androidp phone which means that my machine
> should be online 24/7, right?

Abso-lutely! My desktop runs 24/7 anyway.

> 
> > 3) I populate it via a fetchmail->procmail pipe, meaning I can make
> > my filters via procmail recipes. These filters are trivial to back
> > up, and are email client agnostic.
> 
> I used getmail/maildrop which I personally find nicer.

Yes, a lot of people prefer those.

> 
> > 5) If Claws-Mail ever transitions into garbage, 
> 
> It is around for quite some time and so far I never had seen that devs
> are doing rapid changes...
> 
> > the way Kmail did a decade ago, 
> 
> as it happened with KMail, afaict (I never really used it as email
> client).

Yes, I doubt Claws will ever lemming into the rapids like Kmail did,
but once bitten, twice shy: Nowadays I use my email client only as a
window into my IMAP and as an email sender.


SteveT

Steve Litt 
August 2015 featured book: Troubleshooting: Just the Facts
http://www.troubleshooters.com/tjust


From andrej at kacian.sk  Tue Sep 15 23:35:04 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 23:35:04 +0200
Subject: [Users] Maintaining local mailboxes
In-Reply-To: <20150915171840.60226340@mydesq2.domain.cxm>
References: <20150915123021.36a98fb7@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915114211.7695b486@kujata>
 <20150915133052.09f836b4@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915133819.24208e9b@atmarama.ddns.net>
 <20150915134425.04a4a5be@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915151045.2c003499@mydesq2.domain.cxm>
 <20150915213439.02df4a33@atmarama.ddns.net>
 <20150915171840.60226340@mydesq2.domain.cxm>
Message-ID: <20150915233504.4b617769@penny>

On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 17:18:40 -0400
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

> > I was running my own Dovecot running on localhost, but gave up on it
> > since it's mor complicated setup and have need to (occasionally)
> > access my email from Androidp phone which means that my machine
> > should be online 24/7, right?  
> 
> Abso-lutely! My desktop runs 24/7 anyway.

An alternative is a low-powered PC in your closet running the IMAP
server. 192.168.0.2 is a bit slower than 127.0.0.1, but almost
imperceptibly.

-- 
Andrej


From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Wed Sep 16 00:05:19 2015
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 18:05:19 -0400
Subject: [Users] Maintaining local mailboxes
In-Reply-To: <20150915233504.4b617769@penny>
References: <20150915123021.36a98fb7@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915114211.7695b486@kujata>
 <20150915133052.09f836b4@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915133819.24208e9b@atmarama.ddns.net>
 <20150915134425.04a4a5be@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915151045.2c003499@mydesq2.domain.cxm>
 <20150915213439.02df4a33@atmarama.ddns.net>
 <20150915171840.60226340@mydesq2.domain.cxm>
 <20150915233504.4b617769@penny>
Message-ID: <20150915180519.6494beb0@mydesq2.domain.cxm>

On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 23:35:04 +0200
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 17:18:40 -0400
> Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:
> 
> > > I was running my own Dovecot running on localhost, but gave up on
> > > it since it's mor complicated setup and have need to
> > > (occasionally) access my email from Androidp phone which means
> > > that my machine should be online 24/7, right?  
> > 
> > Abso-lutely! My desktop runs 24/7 anyway.
> 
> An alternative is a low-powered PC in your closet running the IMAP
> server. 192.168.0.2 is a bit slower than 127.0.0.1, but almost
> imperceptibly.

That's an excellent alternative, especially because it's likely you'll
have several such servers that can be run on the closet box. And if the
OP's house is wired anything like mine, with gigabit wired ethernet,
response will be quite fast.

By the way, when on the road, response can be pretty slow, especially
at those hotels with turtle-slow internet. But the good news is, your
closet based box keeps pulling in new messages from your ISP at a high
rate.

SteveT

Steve Litt 
August 2015 featured book: Troubleshooting: Just the Facts
http://www.troubleshooters.com/tjust


From niklaas at kulturflatrate.net  Wed Sep 16 00:10:34 2015
From: niklaas at kulturflatrate.net (Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 00:10:34 +0200
Subject: [Users] Archiving like Thunderbird (or how you handle your mail)
In-Reply-To: <20150914225039.1a934bb7@wodan>
References: <20150914103915.7b649133@len-t420.klaas>
 <20150914225039.1a934bb7@wodan>
Message-ID: <20150916001034.17c5fa2b@len-t420.klaas>

On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 22:50:39 +0200
Holger Berndt <berndth at gmx.de> wrote:

> Should be doable with the Python plugin, depending on how exactly you
> want it to work. Attached script "Archive1" moves the selected
> messages in your archive folder according to the current date,
> "Archive2" moves the messages according to the "Date" header of the
> respective message.

Thanks a lot for your help. I very much appreciate it!

-- 

    Niklaas


From mir at miras.org  Wed Sep 16 00:18:09 2015
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 00:18:09 +0200
Subject: [Users] Maintaining local mailboxes
In-Reply-To: <20150915180519.6494beb0@mydesq2.domain.cxm>
References: <20150915123021.36a98fb7@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915114211.7695b486@kujata>
 <20150915133052.09f836b4@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915133819.24208e9b@atmarama.ddns.net>
 <20150915134425.04a4a5be@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915151045.2c003499@mydesq2.domain.cxm>
 <20150915213439.02df4a33@atmarama.ddns.net>
 <20150915171840.60226340@mydesq2.domain.cxm>
 <20150915233504.4b617769@penny>
 <20150915180519.6494beb0@mydesq2.domain.cxm>
Message-ID: <20150916001809.4aad5579@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 18:05:19 -0400
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

> 
> By the way, when on the road, response can be pretty slow, especially
> at those hotels with turtle-slow internet. But the good news is, your
> closet based box keeps pulling in new messages from your ISP at a high
> rate.
> 
If that is the case a ssh to your box and the read your mail directly
on the server with mutt could be an option. If your servers CPU
capabilities is fairly good running ssh with option -C could
compensate for the turtle-slow internet. 

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep 16 04:05:14 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 02:05:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3517] New: Replying to an encrypted mail doesn't quote
	the mail
Message-ID: <bug-3517-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3517

            Bug ID: 3517
           Summary: Replying to an encrypted mail doesn't quote the mail
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.12.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Compose Window
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: nin at suremail.info

After updating to 3.12.0 "Reply" doesn't quote the original mail any more.
Selecting the original email with the mouse and hitting reply then works, but I
don't want to always mark the mail.

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From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Wed Sep 16 08:13:35 2015
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 08:13:35 +0200
Subject: [Users] Maintaining local mailboxes
In-Reply-To: <20150915134425.04a4a5be@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
References: <20150915123021.36a98fb7@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915114211.7695b486@kujata>
 <20150915133052.09f836b4@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915133819.24208e9b@atmarama.ddns.net>
 <20150915134425.04a4a5be@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <20150916081335.1702556c@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:44:25 +0200
Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl> wrote:

> For the case I described the mail folders are spread over the disk (they
> are part of the project structure) so I cannot combine them in a single
> tree.

Since this thread has now drifted off to a different topic...

Must I assume that it is not possible to store/archive messages in single
folders?

-- Johan


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep 16 08:27:38 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 06:27:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3517] Replying to an encrypted mail doesn't quote the
	mail
In-Reply-To: <bug-3517-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3517-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3517-595-TdsV7iaa8B@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3517

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 3483 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep 16 08:27:38 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 06:27:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3483] When replying to a *de*crypted message,
 it is contained *encrypted* in reply
In-Reply-To: <bug-3483-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3483-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3483-595-XebPzo4Afr@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3483

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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                 CC|                            |nin at suremail.info

--- Comment #8 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
*** Bug 3517 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep 16 08:28:31 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 07:28:31 +0100
Subject: [Users] Maintaining local mailboxes
In-Reply-To: <20150916001809.4aad5579@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20150915123021.36a98fb7@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915114211.7695b486@kujata>
 <20150915133052.09f836b4@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915133819.24208e9b@atmarama.ddns.net>
 <20150915134425.04a4a5be@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915151045.2c003499@mydesq2.domain.cxm>
 <20150915213439.02df4a33@atmarama.ddns.net>
 <20150915171840.60226340@mydesq2.domain.cxm>
 <20150915233504.4b617769@penny>
 <20150915180519.6494beb0@mydesq2.domain.cxm>
 <20150916001809.4aad5579@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20150916072831.03fdfd65@kujata>

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 00:18:09 +0200
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote: 

> If that is the case a ssh to your box and the read your mail
> directly on the server with mutt could be an option.

Or, for that matter, ssh -X and using Claws works very well too.

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep 16 08:30:59 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 07:30:59 +0100
Subject: [Users] Maintaining local mailboxes
In-Reply-To: <20150916081335.1702556c@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
References: <20150915123021.36a98fb7@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915114211.7695b486@kujata>
 <20150915133052.09f836b4@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915133819.24208e9b@atmarama.ddns.net>
 <20150915134425.04a4a5be@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150916081335.1702556c@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <20150916073059.3d564c82@kujata>

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 08:13:35 +0200
Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl> wrote: 

> Since this thread has now drifted off to a different topic...
> 
> Must I assume that it is not possible to store/archive messages in
> single folders?

Sure it is, you just need to reduce your annoyance at seeing the
folders Inbox, Sent, Drafts, Queue and Trash and try to ignore them
instead.

with regards

Paul


From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Wed Sep 16 08:44:09 2015
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 08:44:09 +0200
Subject: [Users] Maintaining local mailboxes
In-Reply-To: <20150916073059.3d564c82@kujata>
References: <20150915123021.36a98fb7@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915114211.7695b486@kujata>
 <20150915133052.09f836b4@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915133819.24208e9b@atmarama.ddns.net>
 <20150915134425.04a4a5be@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150916081335.1702556c@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150916073059.3d564c82@kujata>
Message-ID: <20150916084409.4c63411f@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 07:30:59 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> > Must I assume that it is not possible to store/archive messages in
> > single folders?
> 
> Sure it is, you just need to reduce your annoyance at seeing the
> folders Inbox, Sent, Drafts, Queue and Trash and try to ignore them
> instead.

So the answer to my question is "no", and there's an alternative approach
that may be useful in some/many/most cases.

Thanks.

-- Johan


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep 16 08:52:48 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 07:52:48 +0100
Subject: [Users] Maintaining local mailboxes
In-Reply-To: <20150916084409.4c63411f@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
References: <20150915123021.36a98fb7@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915114211.7695b486@kujata>
 <20150915133052.09f836b4@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150915133819.24208e9b@atmarama.ddns.net>
 <20150915134425.04a4a5be@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150916081335.1702556c@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150916073059.3d564c82@kujata>
 <20150916084409.4c63411f@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <20150916075248.649b6944@kujata>

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 08:44:09 +0200
Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl> wrote: 

> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 07:30:59 +0100
> Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > > Must I assume that it is not possible to store/archive messages
> > > in single folders?  
> > 
> > Sure it is, you just need to reduce your annoyance at seeing the
> > folders Inbox, Sent, Drafts, Queue and Trash and try to ignore
> > them instead.  
> 
> So the answer to my question is "no", and there's an alternative
> approach that may be useful in some/many/most cases.

The answer is "yes", single folders within an MH mailbox.

with regards

Paul


From cel at celehner.com  Wed Sep 16 21:23:29 2015
From: cel at celehner.com (Charles Lehner)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 15:23:29 -0400
Subject: [Users] Maintaining local mailboxes
In-Reply-To: <20150915123021.36a98fb7@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
References: <20150915123021.36a98fb7@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <20150916152329.2692ec94@cel>

Hi Johan,

I think it is possible to do what you were asking about.

On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 12:30:21 +0200
Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl> wrote:

> When I use File > Add Mailbox > mbox (etPan!) it creates a folder on disk,
> but I cannot move messages into that folder.

This step creates a Mailbox in Claws Mail, which is like a folder tree
root. After doing this, you can add folders inside the mailbox by
right-clicking it and choosing Create new folder. These folders will
correspond to mbox files on the disk, and you can move messages to and
from them. (They should behave like the other folders).

For the use case of having mbox archives on other parts of your disk,
you can use symlinks from in the mbox mailbox folder to where you want
the mbox file to be. e.g. Create a folder in the mbox mailbox in Claws
Mail, and then replace its corresponding mbox file with a symlink.

-- 
Charles


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep 17 07:40:32 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 05:40:32 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3518] New: Moving an IMAP folder around,
 and its content is lost silently (!)
Message-ID: <bug-3518-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3518

            Bug ID: 3518
           Summary: Moving an IMAP folder around, and its content is lost
                    silently (!)
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.12.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: critical
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders/IMAP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: francis.moro at gmail.com

This happens on a specific IMAP server, I can't reproduce it on my IMAP GMAIL
account for example.

Here's the procedure to reproduce it:

  1. Create a folder in INBOX/Travel/Misc
  2. Put an email in that folder
  3. Move the folder 'Misc' in INBOX/
  4. 'Misc' still contains the email
  5. Move back 'test' folder in INBOX/Travels/
  6. 'Misc' folder is now empty :-/

I attached the logs corresponding to step 5.

>From the logs one case see:
** IMAP error on gwmail.xxx.com: protocol error(very probably non-RFC
compliance from the server)
** IMAP4 connection broken

which suggests that there's something wrong on the server side or something not
supported.

If it's really the case, I think Claws should do the necessary for trying to
make it works in order to support such (broken) servers. Or at least reports
the error to the user and do *nothing*.

But in any cases, it should LOST emails SILENTLY.

BTW Thunderbird chooses to work perfectly fine here.

This affects Claws 3.11 as well.

I already reported it on Claws' mailing list but it didn't get any attention
althouth it's a critical bug IMHO specially when emails are lost !

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep 17 07:41:28 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 05:41:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3518] Moving an IMAP folder around,
 and its content is lost silently (!)
In-Reply-To: <bug-3518-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3518-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3518-595-ufZh3KiQRC@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3518

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Network log

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From francis.moro at gmail.com  Thu Sep 17 07:43:14 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 07:43:14 +0200
Subject: [Users] Bad bug, moving a folder losts its content :(
In-Reply-To: <55F2FE29.4050403@gmail.com>
References: <55F2FE29.4050403@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55FA52F2.7050108@gmail.com>

On 09/11/2015 06:15 PM, Francis Moreau wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Ok, my first serious bug with Claws :(
> 
> When moving a folder from an IMAP account into a different folder inside the
> same account, Claws moved the folder but all its content was lost :( !
> 
> It's 100% reproductible and doing the same move with Thunderbird works
> perfectly fine.
> 

OK I'm surprised that such a major bug hasn't got some real attention.

So I created a bug report in the hope that someone will care about it.

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3518

Thanks


From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Thu Sep 17 08:21:16 2015
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 08:21:16 +0200
Subject: [Users] Bad bug, moving a folder losts its content :(
In-Reply-To: <55FA52F2.7050108@gmail.com>
References: <55F2FE29.4050403@gmail.com>
	<55FA52F2.7050108@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150917082116.0e4cb979@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 07:43:14 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:

> > When moving a folder from an IMAP account into a different folder
> > inside the same account, Claws moved the folder but all its content was
> > lost :( !
> > 
> > It's 100% reproductible and doing the same move with Thunderbird works
> > perfectly fine.
> > 
> 

  1. Create a folder in INBOX/Travel/Misc
  2. Put an email in that folder
  3. Move the folder 'Misc' in INBOX/
  4. 'Misc' still contains the email
  5. Move back 'test' folder in INBOX/Travels/

Did you mean 'Misc' here?

  6. 'Misc' folder is now empty :-/

As you noticed it seems to be related to the IMAP server, but you do not
mention which IMAP server.

I works flawlessly here with dovecot IMAP server.

> OK I'm surprised that such a major bug hasn't got some real attention.

Maybe it is a specific IMAP server that hardly anyone uses?

-- Johan


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep 17 08:42:02 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 06:42:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3518] Moving IMAP folder fails and content is silently
 lost on novell groupwise server
In-Reply-To: <bug-3518-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3518-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3518-595-7oiRj0Q1xf@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3518

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
            Summary|Moving an IMAP folder       |Moving IMAP folder fails
                   |around, and its content is  |and content is silently
                   |lost silently (!)           |lost on novell groupwise
                   |                            |server

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From francis.moro at gmail.com  Thu Sep 17 12:51:29 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 12:51:29 +0200
Subject: [Users] Bad bug, moving a folder losts its content :(
In-Reply-To: <20150917082116.0e4cb979@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
References: <55F2FE29.4050403@gmail.com> <55FA52F2.7050108@gmail.com>
 <20150917082116.0e4cb979@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <CAC9WiBgHJDXo6Jut_eAM_0LX+BW9BEoeDqJ8Kje0ab+g4+itgA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 07:43:14 +0200
> Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > When moving a folder from an IMAP account into a different folder
>> > inside the same account, Claws moved the folder but all its content was
>> > lost :( !
>> >
>> > It's 100% reproductible and doing the same move with Thunderbird works
>> > perfectly fine.
>> >
>>
>
>   1. Create a folder in INBOX/Travel/Misc
>   2. Put an email in that folder
>   3. Move the folder 'Misc' in INBOX/
>   4. 'Misc' still contains the email
>   5. Move back 'test' folder in INBOX/Travels/
>
> Did you mean 'Misc' here?
>

Yes, sorry.

>   6. 'Misc' folder is now empty :-/
>
> As you noticed it seems to be related to the IMAP server, but you do not
> mention which IMAP server.
>
> I works flawlessly here with dovecot IMAP server.
>
>> OK I'm surprised that such a major bug hasn't got some real attention.
>
> Maybe it is a specific IMAP server that hardly anyone uses?
>

Yes that seems specific to novell groupwise server.

Thanks.
-- 
Francis


From andrej at kacian.sk  Thu Sep 17 14:30:42 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 14:30:42 +0200
Subject: [Users] Bad bug, moving a folder losts its content :(
In-Reply-To: <55F2FE29.4050403@gmail.com>
References: <55F2FE29.4050403@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150917143042.126b72e8@hiker>

On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 18:15:37 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:

> Here's the network log when doing the move:

I see nobody has yet asked for the debug output. Let's fix that. :)

Please run "claws-mail --debug" inside a terminal, and post the whole
output (possibly redacting for usernames or private IP addresses)
somewhere, e.g. on http://pastebin.com, or attach it as a text file to
the bug you have opened.

Thanks,
-- 
Andrej


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Sep 19 15:24:20 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:24:20 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3519] New: Links including umlauts are broken
Message-ID: <bug-3519-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3519

            Bug ID: 3519
           Summary: Links including umlauts are broken
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.12.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message View
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com

Hi,

I noticed that links with umlauts are broken in Claws and FWIW in Evolution
too.

For example: https://allestörungen.de/

Version 3.12.0.r43.g2780845

Regards,
Ralf

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Sep 19 21:12:07 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 19:12:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3519] Links including umlauts are broken
In-Reply-To: <bug-3519-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3519-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3519-595-mTzW3jIAkB@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3519

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I see similar issues with links in rssyl feeds.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Sep 20 11:46:40 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 09:46:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3519] Links including umlauts are broken
In-Reply-To: <bug-3519-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3519-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3519

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*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 1670 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Sep 20 11:46:40 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 09:46:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1670] Punycode not implemented (internationalized
 domain name - IDN)
In-Reply-To: <bug-1670-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1670-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1670-595-qNbCryh5Ua@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1670

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*** Bug 3519 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Sep 20 19:03:18 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 17:03:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3520] New: Run command doesn't execute
Message-ID: <bug-3520-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3520

            Bug ID: 3520
           Summary: Run command doesn't execute
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.12.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: cm at jonlawson.com

I'm assuming the run command box in Configuration/Preferences Mail
handling/Receiving is supposed to run Windows shell commands. No matter what I
type in there, nothing executes when a new mail arrives. The same goes for the
command box in the notifications plugin preferences dialogue.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Sep 20 19:04:40 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 17:04:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3521] New: Mbox import from Thunderbird crashes on
	completion
Message-ID: <bug-3521-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3521

            Bug ID: 3521
           Summary: Mbox import from Thunderbird crashes on completion
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.12.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: cm at jonlawson.com

After a standard install and setting up for Gmail POP, importing any mbox from
a Thunderbird profile causes a crash on completion.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Sep 20 19:06:18 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 17:06:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3522] New: Settings changes lost in case of crash
Message-ID: <bug-3522-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3522

            Bug ID: 3522
           Summary: Settings changes lost in case of crash
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.12.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: cm at jonlawson.com

Any time the program crashes, all settings changes are lost.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Sep 20 19:11:25 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 17:11:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3523] New: No pop-up from SysTray icon
Message-ID: <bug-3523-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3523

            Bug ID: 3523
           Summary: No pop-up from SysTray icon
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.12.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: cm at jonlawson.com

The Notification plugin webpage
(http://www.claws-mail.org/plugin.php?plugin=notification) shows a pop-up
giving information on new mail. No pop-up appears after setting up for Gmail
POP. The Enable Trayicon box is ticked and the rest left unticked.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Sep 20 19:31:08 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 17:31:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3522] Settings changes lost in case of crash
In-Reply-To: <bug-3522-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3522-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3522-595-ANL9X3zd9k@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3522

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
This has been fixed recently, the upcoming release (sometimes in October) will
have this fixed. See bug #3467

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 3467 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Sep 20 19:31:08 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 17:31:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3467] Preferencies are not saved before clean exit
In-Reply-To: <bug-3467-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3467-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3467-595-LQqJiu9yjD@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3467

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*** Bug 3522 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Sep 20 21:15:43 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 19:15:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3523] No pop-up from SysTray icon
In-Reply-To: <bug-3523-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3523-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3523-595-jY8f0v0OS5@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3523

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This kind of popup is not supported on windows.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep 21 12:38:18 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 10:38:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3524] New: vCard does not decode quoted-printable
	values
Message-ID: <bug-3524-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3524

            Bug ID: 3524
           Summary: vCard does not decode quoted-printable values
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Address Book
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: mones at users.sourceforge.net

When addind a new vCard contact with quoted printable values are displayed as
is, without decoding to the original string.

The original text of the .vcf file looks as follow:

FN;CHARSET=UTF-8;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:=XX=YY=ZZ...

Where XX, YY and ZZ are hex values.

These contacts appear after adding the file with name "=XX=YY=ZZ..." on the
interface. A decoded value would have been expected.

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From michael at cacn.de  Tue Sep 22 11:17:38 2015
From: michael at cacn.de (Michael)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 11:17:38 +0200
Subject: [Users] MIME Typ Error on Startup
Message-ID: <20150922111738.22f86991@debidesk.local>

Hello,

i am a new User of Claws Mail.  I use Claws Mail since 3 days. A very
powerfull Tool. 

I setup (and use) only IMAP4, and PlugIns PGP MIME and Core, ClamAV
(Version: 3.11.1) 

Every fresh Startup from Claws Mails shows me the Error-Msg:

Fehler beim Überprüfen: (Error to check)
/home/michael/.claws-mail/mimetmp/00000007.mimetmp: lstat() failed:
Permission denied. ERROR

Why have Claws Mail no rights for his "own" TMP files? And what can i
do whit this?  I found: "lstat - get symbolic link status" (0)

I use Claws Mail from Debian (Source): 3.11.1-3 
And it runs on:  Linux CLAWS-PC 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian
3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u4 (2015-09-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux

Ahoj
Michael

(0) http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/lstat.html
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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Tue Sep 22 11:52:10 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 11:52:10 +0200
Subject: [Users] MIME Typ Error on Startup
In-Reply-To: <20150922111738.22f86991@debidesk.local>
References: <20150922111738.22f86991@debidesk.local>
Message-ID: <20150922115210.73c38d95@archlinux>

On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 11:17:38 +0200, Michael wrote:
>Fehler beim Überprüfen: (Error to check)
>/home/michael/.claws-mail/mimetmp/00000007.mimetmp: lstat() failed:
>Permission denied. ERROR

English instead of German messages should be generated by
  $ LANG=C claws-mail

List permissions with
  $ ls -ld ~/.claws-mail ~/.claws-mail/mimetmp ~/.claws-mail/mimetmp/*
  $ ls -lH ~/.claws-mail/mimetmp/

Regards,
Ralf



From michael at cacn.de  Tue Sep 22 12:57:08 2015
From: michael at cacn.de (Michael)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 12:57:08 +0200
Subject: [Users] MIME Typ Error on Startup
In-Reply-To: <20150922115210.73c38d95@archlinux>
References: <20150922111738.22f86991@debidesk.local>
 <20150922115210.73c38d95@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20150922125708.0ec0e13c@debidesk.local>

Hello,

and Thanks Ralf for answer.

Am Tue, 22 Sep 2015 11:52:10 +0200
schrieb Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com>:

> List permissions with
>   $ ls -ld ~/.claws-mail ~/.claws-mail/mimetmp ~/.claws-mail/mimetmp/*
>   $ ls -lH ~/.claws-mail/mimetmp/

http://pastebin.com/KnhLi12L

Ahoj
Michael


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep 22 14:33:00 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 13:33:00 +0100
Subject: [Users] MIME Typ Error on Startup
In-Reply-To: <20150922125708.0ec0e13c@debidesk.local>
References: <20150922111738.22f86991@debidesk.local>
 <20150922115210.73c38d95@archlinux>
 <20150922125708.0ec0e13c@debidesk.local>
Message-ID: <20150922133300.75b5422f@kujata.lan>

Hi,

Probably it's because files there are readable by your user only and
the clamav group can't access them.

regards

Paul



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep 22 21:30:11 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 20:30:11 +0100
Subject: [Users] release notification feed
Message-ID: <20150922203011.5a24de20@kujata.lan>

Hi,

FYI, you can now subscribe to the Claws Mail releases notification
feed with the RSSyl plugin: http://www.claws-mail.org/releases.rss

regards

Paul
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From lfljvenaura at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 21:12:55 2015
From: lfljvenaura at gmail.com (Lawrence London)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 15:12:55 -0400
Subject: [Users] How do I run Claws with mail folders on an external hard
	drive?
Message-ID: <CA+j2Q+DC3_3uXzNR05YroWc2soiEqum4r4ur+Lssw8yabbFHBw@mail.gmail.com>

How do I run Claws with mail folders on an external hard drive?
I use Win 8.1
I found this reference:
[Users] Running Claws with mail folders on external hard drive
http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2014-July/010378.html
It said to:
"Then move Mail folder from your profile to external drive & edit
folderlist.xml to point the Mailbox to it on the external drive. The
sub-folders use relative paths so that one change is all you need to do.
For eg: <folder type="mh" path="N:\\Mail" name="Mail">"

I opened folderlist.xml in Wordpad and found no line containing "folder
type=".
My Claws mail folders are currently in:
C:\Documents and Settings\Lawrence London\Application
Data\Claws-mail\imapcache
How do I move the folders to an external hard drive and tell Claws where
they are?
Thanks for any help.
Lawrence
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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Wed Sep 23 21:45:49 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 21:45:49 +0200
Subject: [Users] How do I run Claws with mail folders on an external
 hard drive?
In-Reply-To: <CA+j2Q+DC3_3uXzNR05YroWc2soiEqum4r4ur+Lssw8yabbFHBw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+j2Q+DC3_3uXzNR05YroWc2soiEqum4r4ur+Lssw8yabbFHBw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150923214549.57e9338b@archlinux>

On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 15:12:55 -0400, Lawrence London wrote:
>I opened folderlist.xml in Wordpad and found no line containing "folder
>type=".

For Linux Claws 3.12.0.r43.g2780845 it exists.

[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ grep "folder type=" .claws-mail/folderlist.xml
    <folder type="mh" path="Claws Mail" sort="0" collapsed="0" name="Claws Mail">

I share my POP accounts from an Arch Linux install, with an Ubuntu Linux
install, by just creating links. Linking to an external drive should work
for Windows, but I don't know what folder or folders to link when using Windows.

[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ ls -hAld /mnt/moonstudio/home/weremouse/.cl* /mnt/moonstudio/home/weremouse/C* /mnt/moonstudio/home/weremouse/.bo* 
lrwxrwxrwx 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 43 Sep 15 22:37 /mnt/moonstudio/home/weremouse/.bogofilter -> /mnt/archlinux/home/rocketmouse/.bogofilter
lrwxrwxrwx 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 43 Sep 15 22:37 /mnt/moonstudio/home/weremouse/.claws-mail -> /mnt/archlinux/home/rocketmouse/.claws-mail
lrwxrwxrwx 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 42 Sep 15 22:37 /mnt/moonstudio/home/weremouse/Claws Mail -> /mnt/archlinux/home/rocketmouse/Claws Mail
[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ ls -hAld /home/*e*m* /mnt/moonstudio/home/*e*m*
drwxr-x--- 113 rocketmouse rocketmouse  12K Sep 22 08:29 /home/rocketmouse
lrwxrwxrwx   1 rocketmouse rocketmouse   11 Sep 15 18:40 /home/weremouse -> rocketmouse
lrwxrwxrwx   1 rocketmouse rocketmouse   10 Aug  8 11:59 /mnt/moonstudio/home/rocketmouse -> weremouse/
drwxr-xr-x  27 rocketmouse rocketmouse 4.0K Sep 21 15:40 /mnt/moonstudio/home/weremouse


From lfljvenaura at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 23:07:36 2015
From: lfljvenaura at gmail.com (Lawrence London)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 17:07:36 -0400
Subject: [Users] How do I run Claws with mail folders on an external
	hard drive?
In-Reply-To: <20150923214549.57e9338b@archlinux>
References: <CA+j2Q+DC3_3uXzNR05YroWc2soiEqum4r4ur+Lssw8yabbFHBw@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150923214549.57e9338b@archlinux>
Message-ID: <CA+j2Q+Cx-DW+Xz02staiu3n-tc4dwo-Wi+mwWtAi8K-WKp9baQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com>
wrote:

> [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ grep "folder type=" .claws-mail/folderlist.xml
>     <folder type="mh" path="Claws Mail" sort="0" collapsed="0" name="Claws
> Mail">
>
> I share my POP accounts from an Arch Linux install, with an Ubuntu Linux
> install, by just creating links. Linking to an external drive should work
> for Windows, but I don't know what folder or folders to link when using
> Windows.
>

I am running Windows 8.1. The string in question does not exist in
folderlist.xml.
It would be nice if I could create a Unix symbolic link to the mail
filesystem
but even if Win powershell could do it I am not sure Claws would recognize
it, but maybe so,
I doubt this is the way to go about it. I have done it before on another
machine and it worked perfectly,
I just forgot how I did it but it was based on advice from this forum. I
will look at the other machine and see if I can see how I did it.


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From andrej at kacian.sk  Wed Sep 23 23:51:06 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 23:51:06 +0200
Subject: [Users] How do I run Claws with mail folders on an external
 hard drive?
In-Reply-To: <CA+j2Q+DC3_3uXzNR05YroWc2soiEqum4r4ur+Lssw8yabbFHBw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+j2Q+DC3_3uXzNR05YroWc2soiEqum4r4ur+Lssw8yabbFHBw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150923235106.1250a8cc@penny>

On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 15:12:55 -0400
Lawrence London <lfljvenaura at gmail.com> wrote:

> I opened folderlist.xml in Wordpad and found no line containing "folder
> type=".

Did you actually go through the entire initial wizard? Do you see any
folders on the left once the application starts? Did you exit Claws
Mail properly before trying to edit folderlist.xml? I am not sure when
exactly that file gets written, it might be on application exit.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Thu Sep 24 00:35:19 2015
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 00:35:19 +0200
Subject: [Users] How do I run Claws with mail folders on an external
 hard drive?
In-Reply-To: <CA+j2Q+Cx-DW+Xz02staiu3n-tc4dwo-Wi+mwWtAi8K-WKp9baQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+j2Q+DC3_3uXzNR05YroWc2soiEqum4r4ur+Lssw8yabbFHBw@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150923214549.57e9338b@archlinux>
 <CA+j2Q+Cx-DW+Xz02staiu3n-tc4dwo-Wi+mwWtAi8K-WKp9baQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150924003519.4da04997@gandalf.lan2>

Lawrence,

In the past, Windows used Path Letters (like C,D,E) for mounted volumes rather arbitrarily and linking was not that simple as in Unix. You could however assign a certain letter to a certain drive, IIRR. I hope they offer more easy ways today (maybe path by volume name?) but either way, "file system links in Windows" is what you need to read up.

Tell us if works :)

mi


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep 24 06:27:41 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 04:27:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3525] New: Claws Mail fails to connect to an Google
 Apps account which requires OAuth2 to authentify
Message-ID: <bug-3525-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3525

            Bug ID: 3525
           Summary: Claws Mail fails to connect to an Google Apps account
                    which requires OAuth2 to authentify
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: other
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders/IMAP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: nhermosilla14 at gmail.com

I currently use gmail and a google apps account from my college, but the last
one doesn't work properly, due to the lack of support for OAuth2 authentication
for IMAP accounts. It's really a funny thing, since the GData plugin does
indeed work fine using that same authentication (I use it with my gmail).

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep 24 09:13:43 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 07:13:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3525] support oauth2 authentication for google apps
	account
In-Reply-To: <bug-3525-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3525-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3525-595-tZlTuMqwLG@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3525

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            Summary|Claws Mail fails to connect |support oauth2
                   |to an Google Apps account   |authentication for google
                   |which requires OAuth2 to    |apps account
                   |authentify                  |

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep 24 09:24:40 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 08:24:40 +0100
Subject: [Users] How do I run Claws with mail folders on an external
 hard drive?
In-Reply-To: <CA+j2Q+DC3_3uXzNR05YroWc2soiEqum4r4ur+Lssw8yabbFHBw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+j2Q+DC3_3uXzNR05YroWc2soiEqum4r4ur+Lssw8yabbFHBw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150924082440.1a03dc62@kujata.lan>

On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 15:12:55 -0400
Lawrence London <lfljvenaura at gmail.com> wrote: 

> My Claws mail folders are currently in:
> C:\Documents and Settings\Lawrence London\Application
> Data\Claws-mail\imapcache
> How do I move the folders to an external hard drive and tell Claws
> where they are?

This is the config directory, it contains the imap cache and a lot of
other stuff. What you want to do is change the location of the config
directory.

You move the directory in the same manner you move any directory. You
tell Claws to use it by starting Claws Mail with the option

--alternate-config-dir [DIR]

where [DIR] is the full path to your config directory.

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep 24 09:38:04 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 07:38:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3352] found_in_addressbook matches entries from GPG
	keyring
In-Reply-To: <bug-3352-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3352-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3352-595-430ziBfJlQ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3352

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep 24 09:39:22 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 07:39:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3342] "Automatically accept unknown valid SSL
 certificates" is unfortunate wording
In-Reply-To: <bug-3342-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3342-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3342-595-FnchtfybA0@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3342

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep 24 09:42:09 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 07:42:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3301] New Message List Display Column "Account"
In-Reply-To: <bug-3301-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3301-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3301-595-BrnqMBcnWd@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3301

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #2 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
see comment #1, it's already possible.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep 24 09:44:37 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 07:44:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3296] improve description and labels
In-Reply-To: <bug-3296-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3296-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3296-595-ow0qc29rHL@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3296

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep 24 09:52:11 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 07:52:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3256] Preserve selection when applying actions to
 mupltiple messages
In-Reply-To: <bug-3256-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3256-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3256-595-cioNuhWcCV@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3256

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         Resolution|---                         |WORKSFORME

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep 24 09:57:02 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 07:57:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3449] When replying to an S/Mime encrypted mail To:
 and Subject: are empty
In-Reply-To: <bug-3449-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3449-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3449-595-1SjjRlrmLx@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3449

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 3088 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep 24 09:57:02 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 07:57:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3088] Decrypting of S/MIME email causes client to lose
 sender information
In-Reply-To: <bug-3088-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3088-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3088-595-GWnDHvzoGK@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3088

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                 CC|                            |jan at willamowius.de

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*** Bug 3449 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep 24 10:00:11 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 08:00:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default
In-Reply-To: <bug-2939-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2939-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2939-595-kfBPaniPyB@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2939

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep 24 10:02:44 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 08:02:44 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2858] undesired filtering to trash automatically
In-Reply-To: <bug-2858-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2858-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2858-595-KkuITDAbbw@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2858

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From michael at cacn.de  Thu Sep 24 13:41:10 2015
From: michael at cacn.de (Michael)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 13:41:10 +0200
Subject: [Users] MIME Typ Error on Startup [Solved]
In-Reply-To: <20150922133300.75b5422f@kujata.lan>
References: <20150922111738.22f86991@debidesk.local>
 <20150922115210.73c38d95@archlinux>
 <20150922125708.0ec0e13c@debidesk.local>
 <20150922133300.75b5422f@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20150924134110.0c6b79ab@debidesk.local>

Yep!

Am Tue, 22 Sep 2015 13:33:00 +0100
schrieb Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>:

> Hi,
> 
> Probably it's because files there are readable by your user only and
> the clamav group can't access them.

Thanks, it works!

Ahoj
Michael


From lfljvenaura at gmail.com  Thu Sep 24 23:22:59 2015
From: lfljvenaura at gmail.com (Lawrence London)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 17:22:59 -0400
Subject: [Users] How do I run Claws with mail folders on an external
	hard drive?
In-Reply-To: <20150924082440.1a03dc62@kujata.lan>
References: <CA+j2Q+DC3_3uXzNR05YroWc2soiEqum4r4ur+Lssw8yabbFHBw@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150924082440.1a03dc62@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <CA+j2Q+Ah4hTBWBcn4TY8RpowK2-1WcCXTiqp20qk_pm8wh1LLA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 3:24 AM, Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> This is the config directory, it contains the imap cache and a lot of
> other stuff. What you want to do is change the location of the config
> directory.
>
> You move the directory in the same manner you move any directory. You
> tell Claws to use it by starting Claws Mail with the option
>
> --alternate-config-dir [DIR]
>
> where [DIR] is the full path to your config directory.
>

Thanks very much Paul. So far this works!
I assume you meant two dashes here:
--alternate-config-dir
anyway, that is what I used in the Win command line:
f:\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe --alternate-config-dir f:\Claws Mail Config
f: = the external drive and Claws Mail Config = the directory where Claws
Mail
config files reside (Claws Mail)
When I ran that command Claws had me go through the installation again,
which I did and
It remembered where the config directory was. At least I could not find the
mail folders in a config directory on boot drive C
(which is a SSD with limited storage).
Evidently this may be the standard way to install Claws in Win on an
external drive.
What a fine email client!
Thanks again.
Lawrence

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From petter at synth.no  Sat Sep 26 08:41:54 2015
From: petter at synth.no (Petter Adsen)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2015 08:41:54 +0200
Subject: [Users] Displayed order of accounts
Message-ID: <20150926084154.21882419@odin>

I'm sure this is a really dumb question, but I can't seem to figure it
out. Is it possible to rearrange the order of accounts in the folder
list? Do I need to delete all accounts and add them back in the right
order?

Petter

-- 
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"Are you sure?"
"I'm positive."


From andrej at kacian.sk  Sat Sep 26 10:01:39 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2015 10:01:39 +0200
Subject: [Users] Displayed order of accounts
In-Reply-To: <20150926084154.21882419@odin>
References: <20150926084154.21882419@odin>
Message-ID: <20150926100139.47e79844@penny>

On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 08:41:54 +0200
Petter Adsen <petter at synth.no> wrote:

> I'm sure this is a really dumb question, but I can't seem to figure it
> out. Is it possible to rearrange the order of accounts in the folder
> list? Do I need to delete all accounts and add them back in the right
> order?

Hello Petter,

look in main window's File menu, there is a "Change mailbox order..."
menuitem.

Regards,
-- 
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From emilie.page-perron at irkalla.net  Sat Sep 26 16:07:59 2015
From: emilie.page-perron at irkalla.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C9milie_Pag=E9-Perron?=)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2015 10:07:59 -0400
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail w Spam Assassin on Windows
Message-ID: <20150926100759.00007936@irkalla.net>

Hello users and gurus of Claws Mail, 
Question : How can I install Spam Assassin to work with Claws Mail
under Windows ?
Thanks :)
Em


From rezso at rezso.net  Sun Sep 27 17:18:38 2015
From: rezso at rezso.net (=?UTF-8?B?UMOhZGVyIFJlenPFkQ==?=)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 17:18:38 +0200
Subject: [Users] Rewrite subject on receiving
Message-ID: <20150927171838.4c7c6ae0@papi.home>

Hi all,


I have a problem.
Many emails comes with bad subject. The reason is the missing encoding
information.
For example: 
Megrendel_s - Tintapatron, toner, patron t_lt_s, toner t_lt_s
instead of:
Megrendelés - Tintapatron, toner, patron töltés, toner töltés

Naturally, I understand the subject, but not searchable.
So I want to rewrite these subjects during receiving emails.
I think, this is possible, but how?

Regards,

rezso
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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sun Sep 27 18:46:06 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 18:46:06 +0200
Subject: [Users] Rewrite subject on receiving
In-Reply-To: <20150927171838.4c7c6ae0@papi.home>
References: <20150927171838.4c7c6ae0@papi.home>
Message-ID: <20150927184606.77b01e86@archlinux.localdomain>

Create an action, e.g.

Configuration > Actions... > 

Menu name: Editor SciTE
Command:   scite %f
[x] Shell command
[ ] Filter action

Menu name: Editor Pluma
Command:   pluma %f
[x] Shell command
[ ] Filter action


Select a message or select messages, then

Tools > Actions > Select an action and edit the subject line of the
email header

Regards,
Ralf


From rezso at rezso.net  Sun Sep 27 19:47:40 2015
From: rezso at rezso.net (=?UTF-8?B?UMOhZGVyIFJlenPFkQ==?=)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:47:40 +0200
Subject: [Users] Rewrite subject on receiving
In-Reply-To: <20150927184606.77b01e86@archlinux.localdomain>
References: <20150927171838.4c7c6ae0@papi.home>
 <20150927184606.77b01e86@archlinux.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20150927194740.45370203@papi.home>

Sun, 27 Sep 2015 18:46:06 +0200 -n
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> írta:

> Create an action, e.g.
> 
> Configuration > Actions... > 
> 
> Menu name: Editor SciTE
> Command:   scite %f
> [x] Shell command
> [ ] Filter action
> 
> Menu name: Editor Pluma
> Command:   pluma %f
> [x] Shell command
> [ ] Filter action
> 
> 
> Select a message or select messages, then
> 
> Tools > Actions > Select an action and edit the subject line of the
> email header
> 
> Regards,
> Ralf


Thanks.
Many „bad” words used frequently, so it is possible to handle with a
„dictionary”, automatically. For example, with sed, without manually
called action.

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Rezső
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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sun Sep 27 20:21:42 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 20:21:42 +0200
Subject: [Users] Rewrite subject on receiving
In-Reply-To: <20150927194740.45370203@papi.home>
References: <20150927171838.4c7c6ae0@papi.home>
 <20150927184606.77b01e86@archlinux.localdomain>
 <20150927194740.45370203@papi.home>
Message-ID: <20150927202142.4259ac7f@archlinux.localdomain>

On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:47:40 +0200, Páder Rezső wrote:
>Sun, 27 Sep 2015 18:46:06 +0200 -n
>Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> írta:
>
>> Create an action, e.g.
>> 
>> Configuration > Actions... > 
>> 
>> Menu name: Editor SciTE
>> Command:   scite %f
>> [x] Shell command
>> [ ] Filter action
>> 
>> Menu name: Editor Pluma
>> Command:   pluma %f
>> [x] Shell command
>> [ ] Filter action
>> 
>> 
>> Select a message or select messages, then
>> 
>> Tools > Actions > Select an action and edit the subject line of the
>> email header
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Ralf
>
>
>Thanks.
>Many „bad” words used frequently, so it is possible to handle with a
>„dictionary”, automatically. For example, with sed, without manually
>called action.

Regarding my experiences with an iPad's auto-correction your idea never
ever will work.

If I type the correct word, without a typo, the iPad's auto-correction
will change it to something completely grotesque. To use the tablet PC
I needed to disable auto-correction.

I doubt that you can write a script, that will correct words based on a
dictionary.

You could write a script to transform the encoding, but since Claws
already should do this automatically, no script should be needed. IIUC
you already receive the mails with broken words. I suspect you need to
do it manually.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep 28 10:01:52 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:01:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3419] Saving/appending messages to an mbox file
 violates RFC#4155
In-Reply-To: <bug-3419-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3419-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3419-595-pHqLykHVTK@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3419

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
Fix released in 3.12.0

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep 28 14:42:37 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 12:42:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3526] New: autoconfiguration: get more detailed error
	message
Message-ID: <bug-3526-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3526

            Bug ID: 3526
           Summary: autoconfiguration: get more detailed error message
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: All
                OS: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: mail at eworm.de

Just "Failed" does not give enough hints... Let's give a reasonable error
message.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep 28 14:43:00 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 12:43:00 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3526] autoconfiguration: get more detailed error
	message
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3526

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep 28 14:43:56 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 12:43:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3527] New: autoconfiguration: move button below server
	type
Message-ID: <bug-3527-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3527

            Bug ID: 3527
           Summary: autoconfiguration: move button below server type
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: All
                OS: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: mail at eworm.de

Autoconfiguration is protocol dependent, so let's choose server type
first, move the button below.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep 28 14:44:13 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 12:44:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3527] autoconfiguration: move button below server type
In-Reply-To: <bug-3527-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3527

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From michael at cacn.de  Mon Sep 28 14:50:13 2015
From: michael at cacn.de (Michael)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:50:13 +0200
Subject: [Users] Webdav, Caldav and Ical
Message-ID: <20150928145013.1ac54ef4@debidesk.local>

Hello readers,

after a switch from icedove/iceowl to Claws i can't edit or view my
*.ical file. I use the "vCalendar" Plugin (Version: 3.11.1) 

Example: 
It works whit the URL
webcal://fsfe.org/events/events.en.ics (A *.ICS File everybody can read)

It dose't work whit (my!) URL:
https://my.webdav.in-berlin.de/foldername/*.ics

Hint: IN-Berlin, a local DIY ISP, i am only a member, not a maker)

I can "mount" my webdav, e.g. as "davs" to my GNU/Linux Distri. Claws
can't locate thus "local files" ?! 

What must i do to work whit my own *:ics Files? 
Thanks in advance

Michael

 


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep 28 18:35:10 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:35:10 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3526] autoconfiguration: get more detailed error
	message
In-Reply-To: <bug-3526-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3526-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3526-595-u63qYQ9xS6@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3526

--- Comment #2 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
While idea is not bad, current patch prints an untranslated string (the raw
error message) in the middle of a translated string.

For non-english users it will be a poor translation, and won't help much either
since they won't understand the error message itself.

IMHO, either you get the possible error codes and write the appropriate message
for each one of them (so translators can translate) or just do a g_warning with
the error message if all you want is additional info printed somewhere.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep 28 18:36:53 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:36:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3527] autoconfiguration: move button below server type
In-Reply-To: <bug-3527-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3527-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3527-595-FclMSecSBw@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3527

--- Comment #2 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
Wasn't this already posted somewhere?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep 28 18:42:29 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:42:29 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3527] autoconfiguration: move button below server type
In-Reply-To: <bug-3527-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3527-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3527-595-yVDt1OfKqR@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3527

--- Comment #3 from Christian Hesse <mail at eworm.de> ---
I posted this to the mailing list some time ago, but nobody cared. To make sure
it does not get lost I opened a bug now.

If whoever grabs it from mailing list and commits it I will make sure to handle
this bug and close it. ;)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep 28 18:47:11 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:47:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3526] autoconfiguration: get more detailed error
	message
In-Reply-To: <bug-3526-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3526-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3526-595-vQrweumIX6@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3526

--- Comment #3 from Christian Hesse <mail at eworm.de> ---
(In reply to comment #2)
> While idea is not bad, current patch prints an untranslated string (the raw
> error message) in the middle of a translated string.
> 
> For non-english users it will be a poor translation, and won't help much
> either since they won't understand the error message itself.
> 
> IMHO, either you get the possible error codes and write the appropriate
> message for each one of them (so translators can translate)

Good point. I will update the patch. Not a big deal as we have to handle just
two error codes.

> or just do a
> g_warning with the error message if all you want is additional info printed
> somewhere.

With g_warning this is printed to console?
Possibly we should log errors (and success?) to network log. Is it ok to have
untranslated strings there?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep 28 20:13:36 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 18:13:36 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3526] autoconfiguration: get more detailed error
	message
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References: <bug-3526-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3526-595-NSXK86ajLE@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3526

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autoconfiguration: get more detailed error message

Let's use error code instead of error message...

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep 29 08:31:25 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 06:31:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3518] Moving IMAP folder fails and content is silently
 lost on novell groupwise server
In-Reply-To: <bug-3518-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3518-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3518-595-KDwZzRQBgO@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3518

--- Comment #2 from Francis <francis.moro at gmail.com> ---
Here's the log from "claws-mail --debug" when doing the following step:

  1. a folder INBOX/lists/test contains 1 email
  2. Move the folder 'test' in INBOX/
  3. INBOX/test folder still contains the email
  4. Move back 'test' folder in INBOX/lists/
  5. INBOX/lists/test folder is now empty :-/

HTH

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep 29 08:31:57 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 06:31:57 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3518] Moving IMAP folder fails and content is silently
 lost on novell groupwise server
In-Reply-To: <bug-3518-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3518-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3518-595-OG6UHSneRq@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3518

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claws-mail --debug

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From francis.moro at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 08:34:14 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:34:14 +0200
Subject: [Users] Bad bug, moving a folder losts its content :(
In-Reply-To: <20150917143042.126b72e8@hiker>
References: <55F2FE29.4050403@gmail.com>
	<20150917143042.126b72e8@hiker>
Message-ID: <CAC9WiBjVPUUaw3Sm=QpcyvuFgE9OrWmg4v7cUbcpvKq_-SKgVA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Sorry for the delay.

On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 18:15:37 +0200
> Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Here's the network log when doing the move:
>
> I see nobody has yet asked for the debug output. Let's fix that. :)
>
> Please run "claws-mail --debug" inside a terminal, and post the whole
> output (possibly redacting for usernames or private IP addresses)
> somewhere, e.g. on http://pastebin.com, or attach it as a text file to
> the bug you have opened.
>

The debug log you asked for is attached to the bug report.

Thanks.
-- 
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From francis.moro at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 08:52:34 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:52:34 +0200
Subject: [Users] Thread using subject doesn't seem to work
Message-ID: <CAC9WiBiSqW=DMpDTNdHBLbVp=UfAyuwKs5cc1sKVKo4QOoC-Yw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I have "Thread using subject in addition to standard header" selected
in my preferences and the thread view is also selected in the View
menu of course.

I have a folder which contains bug reports sent by bugzilla.
Unfortunately comments from the same report aren't showed as thread.

Does anybody know why ?

Thanks.
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From francis.moro at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 08:58:29 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:58:29 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
Message-ID: <CAC9WiBgiNDM0noxY4Ei5-Yrozrc1xO2WUrtV64SbHge3vkHCog@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

When deleting a long thread, I have to select the first email of the
thread, press shift, select the last email of the thread and then
press SUPPR.

Would it possible to do instead: collapse the long thread, select the
first email of the thread and press SUPPR ?

I think it would be more usefull than the current behaviour which only
deletes  the first email of the thread.

Thanks
-- 
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep 29 08:59:58 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 07:59:58 +0100
Subject: [Users] Thread using subject doesn't seem to work
In-Reply-To: <CAC9WiBiSqW=DMpDTNdHBLbVp=UfAyuwKs5cc1sKVKo4QOoC-Yw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBiSqW=DMpDTNdHBLbVp=UfAyuwKs5cc1sKVKo4QOoC-Yw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150929075958.4f932197@kujata.lan>

On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:52:34 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote: 

> I have a folder which contains bug reports sent by bugzilla.
> Unfortunately comments from the same report aren't showed as thread.

Bugzilla messsages use MessageID and References headers, so they
don't need this option to thread properly.

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep 29 09:05:50 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:05:50 +0100
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <CAC9WiBgiNDM0noxY4Ei5-Yrozrc1xO2WUrtV64SbHge3vkHCog@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBgiNDM0noxY4Ei5-Yrozrc1xO2WUrtV64SbHge3vkHCog@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150929080550.09161be9@kujata.lan>

On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:58:29 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote: 

> When deleting a long thread, I have to select the first email of the
> thread, press shift, select the last email of the thread and then
> press SUPPR.


Use /Edit/Select thread.

with regards

Paul


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 09:19:46 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 09:19:46 +0200
Subject: [Users] Don't do auto-wrapping when using external editor or
	inserting a file
Message-ID: <CAC9WiBgbSEn5g1V_7Joic-J51ycmUCOsySkiquxttxCH6z+VQQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Even if auto-wrapping is enabled in the preferences, I think it should
be automatically disabled when composing an email with an external
editor or inserting the file because in that case claws-mail shouldn't
care about the content of the email.

WDYT ?

Thanks.
-- 
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From francis.moro at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 09:42:11 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 09:42:11 +0200
Subject: [Users] Thread using subject doesn't seem to work
In-Reply-To: <20150929075958.4f932197@kujata.lan>
References: <CAC9WiBiSqW=DMpDTNdHBLbVp=UfAyuwKs5cc1sKVKo4QOoC-Yw@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150929075958.4f932197@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <CAC9WiBjk9WHZjfxHRqxbJaBh0HVUYqkJZ7T6xW2BUsHwaF1bxg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:52:34 +0200
> Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a folder which contains bug reports sent by bugzilla.
>> Unfortunately comments from the same report aren't showed as thread.
>
> Bugzilla messsages use MessageID and References headers, so they
> don't need this option to thread properly.
>

That's true.

However bugzilla seems to link all comments/emails to the very first
comment of the report. And in my case I do not necessarly received the
very first comment.

That's the reason I'm trying to use "Thread using subject ..." option
which seems to not have any effects.

Thanks.
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From francis.moro at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 09:43:28 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 09:43:28 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <20150929082212.68378783@kujata.lan>
References: <CAC9WiBgiNDM0noxY4Ei5-Yrozrc1xO2WUrtV64SbHge3vkHCog@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150929080550.09161be9@kujata.lan>
 <CAC9WiBg05A16vGGXBR=w=kd3+fkWDY=erL9NcRuY+PW0OYPFxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150929082212.68378783@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <CAC9WiBgWAXBG1U6D_RNkfP+O3pffkG=uJYH5kRb10SgUeZisjg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 09:16:41 +0200
> Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Specially since the current behaviour seems useless.
>
> Not useless - it deletes selected msgs.


Well selecting a collapsed thread means selecting the whole thread, at
least that's what I'm expecting and I use to seeing.

-- 
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From rhutter at posteo.de  Tue Sep 29 10:10:52 2015
From: rhutter at posteo.de (Ralf Hutter)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:10:52 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <CAC9WiBgWAXBG1U6D_RNkfP+O3pffkG=uJYH5kRb10SgUeZisjg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBgiNDM0noxY4Ei5-Yrozrc1xO2WUrtV64SbHge3vkHCog@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150929080550.09161be9@kujata.lan>
 <CAC9WiBg05A16vGGXBR=w=kd3+fkWDY=erL9NcRuY+PW0OYPFxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150929082212.68378783@kujata.lan>
 <CAC9WiBgWAXBG1U6D_RNkfP+O3pffkG=uJYH5kRb10SgUeZisjg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150929101052.3b8657de@Trimini>

Am Tue, 29 Sep 2015 09:43:28 +0200
schrieb Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com>:

> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 09:16:41 +0200
> > Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Specially since the current behaviour seems useless.
> >
> > Not useless - it deletes selected msgs.
> 
> 
> Well selecting a collapsed thread means selecting the whole thread, at
> least that's what I'm expecting and I use to seeing.
> 


I agree. I too would prefer the possibility to delete the thread right
away, without having to go to any menu before.
Ralf


From ricardo at mones.org  Tue Sep 29 10:59:17 2015
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:59:17 +0200
Subject: [Users] Don't do auto-wrapping when using external editor or
 inserting a file
In-Reply-To: <CAC9WiBgbSEn5g1V_7Joic-J51ycmUCOsySkiquxttxCH6z+VQQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBgbSEn5g1V_7Joic-J51ycmUCOsySkiquxttxCH6z+VQQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150929085917.GF17753@busgosu.mones.org>

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 09:19:46AM +0200, Francis Moreau wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Even if auto-wrapping is enabled in the preferences, I think it should
> be automatically disabled when composing an email with an external
> editor or inserting the file because in that case claws-mail shouldn't
> care about the content of the email.
> 
> WDYT ?

YMMV.

SCNR ;-)
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  The three principal virtues of a programmer are Laziness, 
  Impatience, and Hubris.                                    man perl

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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Tue Sep 29 11:29:18 2015
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:29:18 +0100
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <20150929101052.3b8657de@Trimini>
References: <CAC9WiBgiNDM0noxY4Ei5-Yrozrc1xO2WUrtV64SbHge3vkHCog@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150929080550.09161be9@kujata.lan>
 <CAC9WiBg05A16vGGXBR=w=kd3+fkWDY=erL9NcRuY+PW0OYPFxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150929082212.68378783@kujata.lan>
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 <20150929101052.3b8657de@Trimini>
Message-ID: <20150929102918.00002814@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:10:52 +0200
Ralf Hutter wrote:

> I agree. I too would prefer the possibility to delete the thread right
> away, without having to go to any menu before.

So use the GTK feature of binding a key combo to the menu entry...

-- 

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From rhutter at posteo.de  Tue Sep 29 12:04:01 2015
From: rhutter at posteo.de (Ralf Hutter)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 12:04:01 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <20150929102918.00002814@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <CAC9WiBgiNDM0noxY4Ei5-Yrozrc1xO2WUrtV64SbHge3vkHCog@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150929080550.09161be9@kujata.lan>
 <CAC9WiBg05A16vGGXBR=w=kd3+fkWDY=erL9NcRuY+PW0OYPFxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150929082212.68378783@kujata.lan>
 <CAC9WiBgWAXBG1U6D_RNkfP+O3pffkG=uJYH5kRb10SgUeZisjg@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150929101052.3b8657de@Trimini>
 <20150929102918.00002814@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20150929120401.76171d65@Trimini>

Am Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:29:18 +0100
schrieb Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk>:

> On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:10:52 +0200
> Ralf Hutter wrote:
> 
> > I agree. I too would prefer the possibility to delete the thread
> > right away, without having to go to any menu before.
> 
> So use the GTK feature of binding a key combo to the menu entry...
> 

Thank you for the hint, i have found out what you meant.
We can go to the settings section Miscallenous and allow self-defined
key combinations. Then, go to any menu and while the cursor is above
the function you mean, type your key combination. It will immediately
be shown next to the function.
Ralf


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 14:00:24 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 14:00:24 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <20150929102918.00002814@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
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On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:10:52 +0200
> Ralf Hutter wrote:
>
>> I agree. I too would prefer the possibility to delete the thread right
>> away, without having to go to any menu before.
>
> So use the GTK feature of binding a key combo to the menu entry...
>

you can find a workaroud, yes, but I still think that the *default*
behaviour doesn't make sense.

I bet no one is using it currently.

-- 
Francis


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep 29 14:01:52 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 12:01:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3527] autoconfiguration: move button below server type
In-Reply-To: <bug-3527-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3527-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3527-595-dFL6jZrKbP@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3527

--- Comment #4 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
Created attachment 1574
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missing justification

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep 29 14:02:29 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 12:02:29 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3527] autoconfiguration: move button below server type
In-Reply-To: <bug-3527-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3527-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3527-595-f2R57ThVWv@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3527

--- Comment #5 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> I posted this to the mailing list some time ago, but nobody cared. To make
> sure it does not get lost I opened a bug now.
> 
> If whoever grabs it from mailing list and commits it I will make sure to
> handle this bug and close it. ;)

Allright. Anyway, for some reason the patch makes left-justification of the
error label to be lost, see attached image (and I think is better to have it
next to the button ;)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep 29 14:21:28 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 12:21:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3527] autoconfiguration: move button below server type
In-Reply-To: <bug-3527-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3527-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3527-595-i3rZYUzsz7@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3527

Christian Hesse <mail at eworm.de> changed:

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autoconfiguration: move button below server type

Updated patch fix fixes alignment.

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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Tue Sep 29 14:54:50 2015
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 13:54:50 +0100
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
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References: <CAC9WiBgiNDM0noxY4Ei5-Yrozrc1xO2WUrtV64SbHge3vkHCog@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 14:00:24 +0200
Francis Moreau wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:10:52 +0200
> > Ralf Hutter wrote:
> >
> >> I agree. I too would prefer the possibility to delete the thread
> >> right away, without having to go to any menu before.
> >
> > So use the GTK feature of binding a key combo to the menu entry...
> >
> 
> you can find a workaroud, yes, but I still think that the *default*
> behaviour doesn't make sense.
> 
> I bet no one is using it currently.
> 

It is not a workaround, it is a feature of the GTK environment that
works for all applications. Claws can be reconfigured to the user's
taste as can any GTK application.

-- 

Brian Morrison


From John at wexfordpress.com  Tue Sep 29 16:05:45 2015
From: John at wexfordpress.com (John Culleton)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:05:45 -0400
Subject: [Users] where is spelling dictionary?
Message-ID: <20150929100545.4d903393@localb.wexfordpress.net>

I use Claws Mail 3.9 on a Slackware Linux system.
I want to take some erroroneous entries out of the
spelling dictionary. What is its name?

-- 
John Culleton
Wexford Press
Book layout, typesetting and Indexing
Free list of books for self-publishers:
http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html


From dan_arico at aricosystems.com  Tue Sep 29 16:08:50 2015
From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:08:50 -0400
Subject: [Users] Don't do auto-wrapping when using external editor or
 inserting a file
In-Reply-To: <CAC9WiBgbSEn5g1V_7Joic-J51ycmUCOsySkiquxttxCH6z+VQQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBgbSEn5g1V_7Joic-J51ycmUCOsySkiquxttxCH6z+VQQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150929100850.6bcaa0d2.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>

On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 09:19:46 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Even if auto-wrapping is enabled in the preferences, I think it should
> be automatically disabled when composing an email with an external
> editor or inserting the file because in that case claws-mail shouldn't
> care about the content of the email.
> 
> WDYT ?
> 
> Thanks.

I've discovered a problem with printing from claws when I have overlong
strings in the message. It displays properly on the screen, but that's
not what I get out of the printer. I lose characters on the left end of
the lines.

Dan Arico

-- 
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One OS to bring them all, and in the Darkness bind them,
In the land of Redmond, where the Sales Reps lie.


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 17:27:23 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 17:27:23 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws completely frozen after the external editor exited
Message-ID: <CAC9WiBh9YwLpeOYL0nSouaP+dvvK4DsyXgavjwux5UxvraYOMA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm using this as external editor: ""

and when exiting from emacs claws is frozen and only send a SIGKILL help :-/

Here's a backtrace, maybe it might help:

(gdb) bt
#0  0x00007fdfeed98fad in read () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007fdfee05df8d in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x00007fdfee00d098 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x00007fdfee00e79c in g_io_channel_read_chars () from
/usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#4  0x0000000000487e9f in compose_input_cb (source=0x16047b0,
condition=<optimized out>, data=0x14d80f0)
    at compose.c:9443
#5  0x00007fdfee019b7a in g_main_context_dispatch () from
/usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#6  0x00007fdfee019ef8 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#7  0x00007fdfee01a212 in g_main_loop_run () from /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#8  0x00007fdff0a7fb77 in gtk_main () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#9  0x0000000000451e8d in main (argc=1, argv=0x7ffcefcd8748) at main.c:1559

Thanks.
-- 
Francis


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 17:34:18 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 17:34:18 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws completely frozen after the external editor exited
In-Reply-To: <CAC9WiBh9YwLpeOYL0nSouaP+dvvK4DsyXgavjwux5UxvraYOMA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBh9YwLpeOYL0nSouaP+dvvK4DsyXgavjwux5UxvraYOMA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAC9WiBgFm9foN6c9W+yAOmbnK+nR4W_fvuoNZF=uiLjg_vKvgg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm using this as external editor: ""
>

sorry forgot the cut&paste ;)

the command to start the external editor is "urxvt -e emacs-nox %s"
-- 
Francis


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 19:01:36 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 19:01:36 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <20150929135450.00002fac@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <CAC9WiBgiNDM0noxY4Ei5-Yrozrc1xO2WUrtV64SbHge3vkHCog@mail.gmail.com>
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 <20150929082212.68378783@kujata.lan>
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On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 14:00:24 +0200
> Francis Moreau wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk>
>> wrote:
>> > On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:10:52 +0200
>> > Ralf Hutter wrote:
>> >
>> >> I agree. I too would prefer the possibility to delete the thread
>> >> right away, without having to go to any menu before.
>> >
>> > So use the GTK feature of binding a key combo to the menu entry...
>> >
>>
>> you can find a workaroud, yes, but I still think that the *default*
>> behaviour doesn't make sense.
>>
>> I bet no one is using it currently.
>>
>
> It is not a workaround, it is a feature of the GTK environment that
> works for all applications. Claws can be reconfigured to the user's
> taste as can any GTK application.

Then call it whatever you want, but the fact is that the default
behaviour doesn not make sense, IMHO.

-- 
Francis


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep 29 14:21:28 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 12:21:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3527] autoconfiguration: move button below server type
In-Reply-To: <bug-3527-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3527-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3527-595-U0HjXVgl9S@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3527

--- Comment #7 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2015-09-29 19:14:02.882047965 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed1b26c187b41d82241e59df0d714acdd79c1a31
Merge: 0d3c121 2c54352
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Tue Sep 29 19:14:02 2015 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c54352ae2548b840d8fde00a05da062a70a9415
Author: Christian Hesse <mail at eworm.de>
Date:   Tue Sep 29 14:21:28 2015 +0200

    Fix bug #3527 ‘autoconfiguration: move button below server type’

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep 29 19:26:55 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 18:26:55 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws completely frozen after the external editor exited
In-Reply-To: <CAC9WiBgFm9foN6c9W+yAOmbnK+nR4W_fvuoNZF=uiLjg_vKvgg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBh9YwLpeOYL0nSouaP+dvvK4DsyXgavjwux5UxvraYOMA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20150929182655.7dca0621@kujata.lan>

On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 17:34:18 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote: 

> the command to start the external editor is "urxvt -e emacs-nox %s"

I think you can see that when you exit emacs urxvt is still running,
hence your 'problem'.

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep 29 19:27:49 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 18:27:49 +0100
Subject: [Users] where is spelling dictionary?
In-Reply-To: <20150929100545.4d903393@localb.wexfordpress.net>
References: <20150929100545.4d903393@localb.wexfordpress.net>
Message-ID: <20150929182749.7c6931ee@kujata.lan>

On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:05:45 -0400
John Culleton <John at wexfordpress.com> wrote: 

> I use Claws Mail 3.9 on a Slackware Linux system.
> I want to take some erroroneous entries out of the
> spelling dictionary. What is its name?

Claws Mail doesn't maintain its own dictionaries, but uses enchant.

with regards

Paul


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Tue Sep 29 19:46:59 2015
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 18:46:59 +0100
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <CAC9WiBh4LcZXNdGKL7LaST3VFtEe9PXQTO0bJ=UdHHLQs4jP=w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20150929184659.00006dd8@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 19:01:36 +0200
Francis Moreau wrote:

> > It is not a workaround, it is a feature of the GTK environment that
> > works for all applications. Claws can be reconfigured to the user's
> > taste as can any GTK application.
> 
> Then call it whatever you want, but the fact is that the default
> behaviour doesn not make sense, IMHO.
> 

I am always delighted when relative newcomers demand that I change the
way I do things to suit them.

-- 

Brian Morrison


From rhutter at posteo.de  Tue Sep 29 20:00:14 2015
From: rhutter at posteo.de (Ralf Hutter)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:00:14 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <20150929184659.00006dd8@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
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Message-ID: <20150929200014.7add9107@Trimini>

Am Tue, 29 Sep 2015 18:46:59 +0100
schrieb Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk>:

> On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 19:01:36 +0200
> Francis Moreau wrote:
> 
> > > It is not a workaround, it is a feature of the GTK environment
> > > that works for all applications. Claws can be reconfigured to the
> > > user's taste as can any GTK application.
> > 
> > Then call it whatever you want, but the fact is that the default
> > behaviour doesn not make sense, IMHO.
> > 
> 
> I am always delighted when relative newcomers demand that I change the
> way I do things to suit them.
> 

Please don't bother this list with such stubborn commentaries. They
might discourage people from telling their opinion or making
suggestions. I am saying this because i got something similar, from
somebody else. This thread is about improving Claws, not about
"suiting" an individual nor "the way you do things".
Ralf


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep 29 20:06:05 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 19:06:05 +0100
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <20150929200014.7add9107@Trimini>
References: <CAC9WiBgiNDM0noxY4Ei5-Yrozrc1xO2WUrtV64SbHge3vkHCog@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20150929190605.490a2b0f@kujata.lan>

On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:00:14 +0200
Ralf Hutter <rhutter at posteo.de> wrote: 

> Please don't bother this list with such stubborn commentaries. They
> might discourage people from telling their opinion or making
> suggestions. I am saying this because i got something similar, from
> somebody else. This thread is about improving Claws, not about
> "suiting" an individual nor "the way you do things".

To be fair, Francis was giving his personal opinion and the "sense"
contained in the current way does not suit him personally.

Also I think Brian was making a valid point.

with regards

Paul


From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Tue Sep 29 20:10:57 2015
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 12:10:57 -0600
Subject: [Users] Claws completely frozen after the external editor exited
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 17:34:18 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:

> sorry forgot the cut&paste ;)
> 
> the command to start the external editor is "urxvt -e emacs-nox %s"

You should not launch a separate emacs for each document you want to
edit. Instead, launch an instance of emacs, and use that as a server.
The client here is emacsclient. Invoke it from clawsmail like so:

emacsclient '%s'

Once upon a time emacs was considered a memory hog ("Eight Megabytes
And Constantly Swapping!"). Emacsclient was the solution in those days,
and I think it is still the preferred one.

Launch an email into emacs with Ctl-Shift-x. Save from time to time as
usual in emacs: Ctl-s. Invoke mail mode as usual, M-x mail-mode. Exit
with Ctl-x #.

I don't know why you use urxvt (I assume it's a variant on rxvt), but
you shouldn't need to. Emacs over x should do just fine.

That may also solve your crashing problem.

Also, it might be a good idea to put the file name indicator inside
single quotes to avoid shell expansion.

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and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
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From rhutter at posteo.de  Tue Sep 29 20:30:34 2015
From: rhutter at posteo.de (Ralf Hutter)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:30:34 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <20150929190605.490a2b0f@kujata.lan>
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Am Tue, 29 Sep 2015 19:06:05 +0100
schrieb Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>:

> On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:00:14 +0200
> Ralf Hutter <rhutter at posteo.de> wrote: 
> 
> > Please don't bother this list with such stubborn commentaries. They
> > might discourage people from telling their opinion or making
> > suggestions. I am saying this because i got something similar, from
> > somebody else. This thread is about improving Claws, not about
> > "suiting" an individual nor "the way you do things".
> 
> To be fair, Francis was giving his personal opinion and the "sense"
> contained in the current way does not suit him personally.
> 
> Also I think Brian was making a valid point.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

To be fair: Out of the 3 people giving their opinion before your last
email, paul (in your first email you didn't seem to give an opinion but
rather a hint on a kind of workaround), 2 were saying that they dislike
the current way it works.
Ralf


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Tue Sep 29 20:38:42 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:38:42 +0200
Subject: [Users] where is spelling dictionary?
In-Reply-To: <20150929182749.7c6931ee@kujata.lan>
References: <20150929100545.4d903393@localb.wexfordpress.net>
 <20150929182749.7c6931ee@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20150929203842.4d475aaa@archlinux.localdomain>

On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 18:27:49 +0100, Paul wrote:
>On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:05:45 -0400
>John Culleton <John at wexfordpress.com> wrote: 
>
>> I use Claws Mail 3.9 on a Slackware Linux system.
>> I want to take some erroroneous entries out of the
>> spelling dictionary. What is its name?
>
>Claws Mail doesn't maintain its own dictionaries, but uses enchant.

As already pointed out in the Xfce user mailing list, Claws uses
enchant and it depends on aspell and hunspell, the packages of the
dictionaries are usually named aspell-en and hunspell-en.

Do you want to edit the dictionary?
Perhaps this does help:
http://www.suares.com/index.php?page_id=25&news_id=233

If you would explain what exactly you want to do, we perhaps could help
you to google.

Is it still the "plin" vs "plain" issue?

Regards,
Ralf


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep 29 20:46:16 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 19:46:16 +0100
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:30:34 +0200
Ralf Hutter <rhutter at posteo.de> wrote: 

> To be fair: Out of the 3 people giving their opinion before your
> last email, paul (in your first email you didn't seem to give an
> opinion but rather a hint on a kind of workaround), 2 were saying
> that they dislike the current way it works.

The way it currently works is not an accident, but represents the dev
team's opinion on how it should work. Since this is implicit, I
didn't think it was worth a mention, but since you seem to be not
taking that into consideration, I've mentioned it now.

with regards

Paul


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 20:52:14 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:52:14 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws completely frozen after the external editor exited
In-Reply-To: <20150929121057.05a29e8e@jhegaala.localdomain>
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On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:10 PM, Charles Curley
<charlescurley at charlescurley.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 17:34:18 +0200
> Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> sorry forgot the cut&paste ;)
>>
>> the command to start the external editor is "urxvt -e emacs-nox %s"
>
> You should not launch a separate emacs for each document you want to
> edit. Instead, launch an instance of emacs, and use that as a server.
> The client here is emacsclient. Invoke it from clawsmail like so:
>
> emacsclient '%s'
>

I should be able to use any editor I wish, and nowadays I really don't
see any issues in launching emacs for editing an email on my computer
with 16GB RAM, quad core i7 etc...

-- 
Francis


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 20:55:19 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:55:19 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws completely frozen after the external editor exited
In-Reply-To: <20150929182655.7dca0621@kujata.lan>
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On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 17:34:18 +0200
> Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> the command to start the external editor is "urxvt -e emacs-nox %s"
>
> I think you can see that when you exit emacs urxvt is still running,
> hence your 'problem'.
>

of course urxvt is exiting when I exit emacs...

And having to send a SIGKILL for quitting claws because it's
completely frozen is not a good option IMHO.
-- 
Francis


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 20:58:27 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:58:27 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <20150929200014.7add9107@Trimini>
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On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:00 PM, Ralf Hutter <rhutter at posteo.de> wrote:
> Am Tue, 29 Sep 2015 18:46:59 +0100
> schrieb Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk>:
>
>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 19:01:36 +0200
>> Francis Moreau wrote:
>>
>> > > It is not a workaround, it is a feature of the GTK environment
>> > > that works for all applications. Claws can be reconfigured to the
>> > > user's taste as can any GTK application.
>> >
>> > Then call it whatever you want, but the fact is that the default
>> > behaviour doesn not make sense, IMHO.
>> >
>>
>> I am always delighted when relative newcomers demand that I change the
>> way I do things to suit them.
>>
>
> Please don't bother this list with such stubborn commentaries. They
> might discourage people from telling their opinion or making
> suggestions. I am saying this because i got something similar, from
> somebody else. This thread is about improving Claws, not about
> "suiting" an individual nor "the way you do things".

Maybe we should open a google poll simply to figure out which default
are the most sensible ? ;)

-- 
Francis


From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Tue Sep 29 22:31:09 2015
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 13:31:09 -0700
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:30:34 +0200
Ralf Hutter <rhutter at posteo.de> wrote:

>To be fair: Out of the 3 people giving their opinion before your last
>email, paul (in your first email you didn't seem to give an opinion
>but rather a hint on a kind of workaround), 2 were saying that they
>dislike the current way it works.

I'm happy! 

So now it's 2 to 1 + the important people (like the dev team)

Joke aside. If I remember correctly the full source code is available
at: http://www.claws-mail.org/releases.php . This is the 'beauty' of
open source. People can make their changes...


-- 
sknahT

vyS


From ricardo at mones.org  Tue Sep 29 23:49:21 2015
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 23:49:21 +0200
Subject: [Users] Don't do auto-wrapping when using external editor or
 inserting a file
In-Reply-To: <20150929100850.6bcaa0d2.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
References: <CAC9WiBgbSEn5g1V_7Joic-J51ycmUCOsySkiquxttxCH6z+VQQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20150929234921.7c5bb63c@busgosu>

Hi Dan,

On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:08:50 -0400
Dan Arico <dan_arico at aricosystems.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 09:19:46 +0200
> Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Even if auto-wrapping is enabled in the preferences, I think it should
> > be automatically disabled when composing an email with an external
> > editor or inserting the file because in that case claws-mail shouldn't
> > care about the content of the email.
> > 
> > WDYT ?
> > 
> > Thanks.  
> 
> I've discovered a problem with printing from claws when I have overlong
> strings in the message. It displays properly on the screen, but that's
> not what I get out of the printer. I lose characters on the left end of
> the lines.

If you're using some Debian derivative that's probably a known problem
because of the default font, which can be workarounded by setting a
different font: https://bugs.debian.org/776563.

regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  Don't take the name of root in vain.          /usr/src/linux/README

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep 29 23:51:22 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 21:51:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3527] autoconfiguration: move button below server type
In-Reply-To: <bug-3527-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3527-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3527-595-URCsTia9Ge@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3527

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

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From dan_arico at aricosystems.com  Wed Sep 30 00:36:35 2015
From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 18:36:35 -0400
Subject: [Users] Don't do auto-wrapping when using external editor or
 inserting a file
In-Reply-To: <20150929234921.7c5bb63c@busgosu>
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> > I've discovered a problem with printing from claws when I have
> > overlong strings in the message. It displays properly on the
> > screen, but that's not what I get out of the printer. I lose
> > characters on the left end of the lines.
> 
> If you're using some Debian derivative that's probably a known problem
> because of the default font, which can be workarounded by setting a
> different font: https://bugs.debian.org/776563.
> 
> regards,

Suse 13.2. I don't think that's the problem. It's ignoring the line
wrap when it prints so I see the end of the next to last line and the
last line when it prints. It looks normal in the screen display.

I also discover that if I have a mixed format, the lines with a hard
return print OK, but the long lines print as I described.

I'm using a workaround where I cut and paste into an editor and then
print.

I've also spotted a patter - The emails I have this problem with were
produced using Outlook.

Dan Arico

-- 
One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them,
One OS to bring them all, and in the Darkness bind them,
In the land of Redmond, where the Sales Reps lie.


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Wed Sep 30 07:38:02 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 07:38:02 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
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On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:30:34 +0200
> Ralf Hutter <rhutter at posteo.de> wrote:
>
>> To be fair: Out of the 3 people giving their opinion before your
>> last email, paul (in your first email you didn't seem to give an
>> opinion but rather a hint on a kind of workaround), 2 were saying
>> that they dislike the current way it works.
>
> The way it currently works is not an accident, but represents the dev
> team's opinion on how it should work. Since this is implicit, I
> didn't think it was worth a mention, but since you seem to be not
> taking that into consideration, I've mentioned it now.
>

Ok, the dev team thinks it's how it should work but haven't explained
why they think so:

Why does the dev team think that  collapsing the entire thread and
press SUPPR on the root email of the thread should delete the root
email only and let a partially broken thread (ie a thread with missing
emails) ?

Seriously I really don't see any reason this is superior than delete
the whole thread.
-- 
Francis


From subscript at free.fr  Wed Sep 30 07:53:28 2015
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 07:53:28 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
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Message-ID: <20150930075328.1679157f@anthra>

Hello Francis,


On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 07:38:02 +0200 Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:30:34 +0200
> > Ralf Hutter <rhutter at posteo.de> wrote:
> >  
> >> To be fair: Out of the 3 people giving their opinion before your
> >> last email, paul (in your first email you didn't seem to give an
> >> opinion but rather a hint on a kind of workaround), 2 were saying
> >> that they dislike the current way it works.  
> >
> > The way it currently works is not an accident, but represents the dev
> > team's opinion on how it should work. Since this is implicit, I
> > didn't think it was worth a mention, but since you seem to be not
> > taking that into consideration, I've mentioned it now.
> >  
> 
> Ok, the dev team thinks it's how it should work but haven't explained
> why they think so:
> 
> Why does the dev team think that  collapsing the entire thread and
> press SUPPR on the root email of the thread should delete the root
> email only and let a partially broken thread (ie a thread with missing
> emails) ?
> 
> Seriously I really don't see any reason this is superior than delete
> the whole thread.

I tend to agree, things could be better there, like del key to delete a
message, shift+del to delete message and children, with no regards to
what's collapsed or not, root node or whatever. Usually, GUI's may
behave differently when handling collapsed things, but doing things in
blind mode without a warning about deleting a tree or a specific action
(shift+.., ctrl+..) scares me a bit.


Regards,

-- 
wwp
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From andrej at kacian.sk  Wed Sep 30 08:18:18 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 08:18:18 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <20150930075328.1679157f@anthra>
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wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:

> I tend to agree, things could be better there, like del key to delete a
> message, shift+del to delete message and children, with no regards to
> what's collapsed or not, root node or whatever.

And I prefer delete key to put the message in trash, while shift+del
deletes it outright. That's why I have these keys assigned to
appropriate menu actions, and am not making a fuss about how other
people (should) prefer it.

Regards,
- -- 
Andrej
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From francis.moro at gmail.com  Wed Sep 30 08:27:29 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 08:27:29 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <20150930075328.1679157f@anthra>
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On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 7:53 AM, wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:
> Hello Francis,
>
>
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 07:38:02 +0200 Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
>> > On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:30:34 +0200
>> > Ralf Hutter <rhutter at posteo.de> wrote:
>> >
>> >> To be fair: Out of the 3 people giving their opinion before your
>> >> last email, paul (in your first email you didn't seem to give an
>> >> opinion but rather a hint on a kind of workaround), 2 were saying
>> >> that they dislike the current way it works.
>> >
>> > The way it currently works is not an accident, but represents the dev
>> > team's opinion on how it should work. Since this is implicit, I
>> > didn't think it was worth a mention, but since you seem to be not
>> > taking that into consideration, I've mentioned it now.
>> >
>>
>> Ok, the dev team thinks it's how it should work but haven't explained
>> why they think so:
>>
>> Why does the dev team think that  collapsing the entire thread and
>> press SUPPR on the root email of the thread should delete the root
>> email only and let a partially broken thread (ie a thread with missing
>> emails) ?
>>
>> Seriously I really don't see any reason this is superior than delete
>> the whole thread.
>
> I tend to agree, things could be better there, like del key to delete a
> message, shift+del to delete message and children, with no regards to
> what's collapsed or not, root node or whatever. Usually, GUI's may
> behave differently when handling collapsed things, but doing things in
> blind mode without a warning about deleting a tree or a specific action
> (shift+.., ctrl+..) scares me a bit.

Usually GUIs tend to ask confirmation when doing destructive
operations such as email deletation by default. And the warning popups
are usually accompanied with check box "Warn me next time".

Thanks
-- 
Francis


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep 30 08:34:52 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 06:34:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3526] autoconfiguration: get more detailed error
	message
In-Reply-To: <bug-3526-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3526-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3526-595-yWODqvsYlE@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3526

--- Comment #5 from Christian Hesse <mail at eworm.de> ---
Created attachment 1576
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1576&action=edit
autoconfiguration: log to network log

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.


From ftdorado at ono.com  Wed Sep 30 08:38:00 2015
From: ftdorado at ono.com (Felipe T. Dorado)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 08:38:00 +0200
Subject: [Users] Headers
Message-ID: <20150930083800.4645e12d@aguacate2.fruta2.org>

Hello there!

Have been following this list and reading you for about 3 years now. Thank
you all.

And have also happily been using Sylpheed/Claws for the past 10 years
now  : )  'cause I found it in aptitude/synaptic and not for reviews such
as the link below [1].

Ctrl+U gives us the source of the present message. 
Where can I find the exact meaning of all the klutches (?) listed in the
header of the source? 
These:

AF:
NF:
PS:
SRH:
SFN:
DSR:
MID:
CFG:
PT:
S:
RQ:
SSV:
NSV:
SSH:
R:
MAID:
X-Claws-Privacy-System:
X-Claws-Sign:
SCF:
RMID:
X-Claws-Auto-Wrapping:
X-Claws-Auto-Indent:
X-Claws-End-Special-Headers: 

Date: 
From: 
To: 
Bcc: 
Subject: 
Message-ID:
In-Reply-To:
References: 
X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; i486-pc-linux-gnu)
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thank you.

Felipe  : )


[1]
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/claws-mail-what-an-email-client-should-be-like/


From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Wed Sep 30 08:51:50 2015
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 08:51:50 +0200
Subject: [Users] Headers
In-Reply-To: <20150930083800.4645e12d@aguacate2.fruta2.org>
References: <20150930083800.4645e12d@aguacate2.fruta2.org>
Message-ID: <20150930085150.01af6df5@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 08:38:00 +0200
"Felipe T. Dorado" <ftdorado at ono.com> wrote:

> Ctrl+U gives us the source of the present message. 

Ctrl+H will show you the headers in the message view.

> Where can I find the exact meaning of all the klutches (?) listed in the
> header of the source? 

The official headers are defined in RFC2822. Amongst these are:

> Date: 
> From: 
> To: 
> Bcc: 
> Subject: 
> Message-ID:
> In-Reply-To:
> References: 
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

User agents (MUA, like Claws) and transport systems (MTA, like sendmail)
and virus scanners add their own headers, all prefixed with X- :

> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; i486-pc-linux-gnu)

But all of the other headers (non X-...) should not be there since they
violate RFC2822. I've never seen them anywhere...

HTH,

-- Johan


From rol at witbe.net  Wed Sep 30 08:55:50 2015
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 08:55:50 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <CAC9WiBgiNDM0noxY4Ei5-Yrozrc1xO2WUrtV64SbHge3vkHCog@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBgiNDM0noxY4Ei5-Yrozrc1xO2WUrtV64SbHge3vkHCog@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150930085550.566e2634@riri.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello,

On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:58:29 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:

> When deleting a long thread, I have to select the first email of the
> thread, press shift, select the last email of the thread and then
> press SUPPR.
> 
> Would it possible to do instead: collapse the long thread, select the
> first email of the thread and press SUPPR ?
> 
> I think it would be more usefull than the current behaviour which only
> deletes  the first email of the thread.

My version of Claws (3.12.0) contains Edit > Delete thread.

I've just made a test, when you do that while an email is selected, the
whole thread is selected and deleted.
What about binding a keyboard shortcut to that option and using it ?
Details about the way to do that have been posted to the list many times.

Best,
Paul

-- 

Paul Rolland                                E-Mail : rol(at)witbe.net
CTO - Witbe.net SA                          Tel. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 77
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Skype    : rollandpaul

"I worry about my child and the Internet all the time, even though she's
too young to have logged on yet. Here's what I worry about. I worry that 10
or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say 'Daddy, where were you
when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?'"
--Mike Godwin, Electronic Frontier Foundation 


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From francis.moro at gmail.com  Wed Sep 30 09:06:32 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 09:06:32 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <20150930085550.566e2634@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
References: <CAC9WiBgiNDM0noxY4Ei5-Yrozrc1xO2WUrtV64SbHge3vkHCog@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAC9WiBhqZP5d20k+gaWj_kAcZd6jDKWaU_izWy0ghyLpOOPN4Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) <rol at witbe.net> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:58:29 +0200
> Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> When deleting a long thread, I have to select the first email of the
>> thread, press shift, select the last email of the thread and then
>> press SUPPR.
>>
>> Would it possible to do instead: collapse the long thread, select the
>> first email of the thread and press SUPPR ?
>>
>> I think it would be more usefull than the current behaviour which only
>> deletes  the first email of the thread.
>
> My version of Claws (3.12.0) contains Edit > Delete thread.
>
> I've just made a test, when you do that while an email is selected, the
> whole thread is selected and deleted.
> What about binding a keyboard shortcut to that option and using it ?
> Details about the way to do that have been posted to the list many times.
>

Again, I was just telling that the *default* behaviour doesn't make
sense to me and was suggesting to change it to something more
intuitive.

-- 
Francis


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Wed Sep 30 09:13:43 2015
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 08:13:43 +0100
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <CAC9WiBhMQCxAEMfyGcDQrvGaUYrFoUkhPyv=g_FNdi1O4tJQ1Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBgiNDM0noxY4Ei5-Yrozrc1xO2WUrtV64SbHge3vkHCog@mail.gmail.com>
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 <20150929135450.00002fac@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
 <CAC9WiBh4LcZXNdGKL7LaST3VFtEe9PXQTO0bJ=UdHHLQs4jP=w@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150929184659.00006dd8@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20150929200014.7add9107@Trimini>
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 <20150929203034.7cf4a1d3@Trimini>
 <20150929194616.5a180d7d@kujata.lan>
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Message-ID: <20150930081343.565aa7aa@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 07:38:02 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Francis,

>Ok, the dev team thinks it's how it should work but haven't explained
>why they think so:

At a guess, because it does the least damage.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
Early morning when I wake up, I look like Kiss but without the make up
Strong - Robbie Williams
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From andrej at kacian.sk  Wed Sep 30 09:24:01 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 09:24:01 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <CAC9WiBhqZP5d20k+gaWj_kAcZd6jDKWaU_izWy0ghyLpOOPN4Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBgiNDM0noxY4Ei5-Yrozrc1xO2WUrtV64SbHge3vkHCog@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150930085550.566e2634@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <CAC9WiBhqZP5d20k+gaWj_kAcZd6jDKWaU_izWy0ghyLpOOPN4Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150930092401.2001a747@hiker>

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 09:06:32 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:

> Again, I was just telling that the *default* behaviour doesn't make
> sense to me and was suggesting to change it to something more
> intuitive.

You are free to modify your copy of Claws Mail in this regard. You are,
however, not free to dictate what feels "more intuitive" for everyone
else.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From andrej at kacian.sk  Wed Sep 30 09:28:01 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 09:28:01 +0200
Subject: [Users] Headers
In-Reply-To: <20150930085150.01af6df5@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
References: <20150930083800.4645e12d@aguacate2.fruta2.org>
 <20150930085150.01af6df5@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <20150930092801.54df4399@hiker>

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 08:51:50 +0200
Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl> wrote:

> > X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; i486-pc-linux-gnu)  
> 
> But all of the other headers (non X-...) should not be there since
> they violate RFC2822. I've never seen them anywhere...

Correction - they should not be there once the message leaves Claws
Mail. And indeed they are not, they are removed before that happens.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From rol at witbe.net  Wed Sep 30 10:18:29 2015
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:18:29 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <CAC9WiBhqZP5d20k+gaWj_kAcZd6jDKWaU_izWy0ghyLpOOPN4Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBgiNDM0noxY4Ei5-Yrozrc1xO2WUrtV64SbHge3vkHCog@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150930085550.566e2634@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <CAC9WiBhqZP5d20k+gaWj_kAcZd6jDKWaU_izWy0ghyLpOOPN4Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150930101829.751b88bb@riri.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello,

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 09:06:32 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)
> <rol at witbe.net> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:58:29 +0200
> > Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> When deleting a long thread, I have to select the first email of the
> >> thread, press shift, select the last email of the thread and then
> >> press SUPPR.
> >>
> >> Would it possible to do instead: collapse the long thread, select the
> >> first email of the thread and press SUPPR ?
> >>
> >> I think it would be more usefull than the current behaviour which only
> >> deletes  the first email of the thread.
> >
> > My version of Claws (3.12.0) contains Edit > Delete thread.
> >
> > I've just made a test, when you do that while an email is selected, the
> > whole thread is selected and deleted.
> > What about binding a keyboard shortcut to that option and using it ?
> > Details about the way to do that have been posted to the list many
> > times.
>
> Again, I was just telling that the *default* behaviour doesn't make
> sense to me and was suggesting to change it to something more
> intuitive.
> 

I understand. More clearly, I was suggesting you to assign "Suppr" as a
shortcut to the "Edit > Delete thread" menu item. 
That would even save you the need to collapse the thread... Of course, the
drawback is that you have to define something different if you want to
delete a message.

And obviously, as already suggested, if none of all the "solutions"
proposed suits you, you are free to download the source code and patch it.

Best,
Paul

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too young to have logged on yet. Here's what I worry about. I worry that 10
or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say 'Daddy, where were you
when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?'"
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Wed Sep 30 11:08:10 2015
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:08:10 +0100
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 08:18:18 +0200
Andrej Kacian wrote:

> That's why I have these keys assigned to
> appropriate menu actions, and am not making a fuss about how other
> people (should) prefer it.

+1

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From bugreporter at abwesend.de  Wed Sep 30 11:29:52 2015
From: bugreporter at abwesend.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 11:29:52 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws completely frozen after the external editor exited
In-Reply-To: <20150929121057.05a29e8e@jhegaala.localdomain>
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 12:10:57 -0600, Charles Curley wrote:

> Francis Moreau wrote:
> 
> > sorry forgot the cut&paste ;)
> > 
> > the command to start the external editor is "urxvt -e emacs-nox %s"
> 
> You should not launch a separate emacs for each document you want to
> edit.

*Why* not?

> Instead, launch an instance of emacs, and use that as a server.
> The client here is emacsclient. Invoke it from clawsmail like so:
> 
> emacsclient '%s'
> 
> Once upon a time emacs was considered a memory hog ("Eight Megabytes
> And Constantly Swapping!"). Emacsclient was the solution in those days,
> and I think it is still the preferred one.

Is memory shortage the reason why not to launch Emacs multiple times?

> Launch an email into emacs with Ctl-Shift-x. Save from time to time as
> usual in emacs: Ctl-s. Invoke mail mode as usual, M-x mail-mode. Exit
> with Ctl-x #.
> 
> I don't know why you use urxvt (I assume it's a variant on rxvt), but
> you shouldn't need to. Emacs over x should do just fine.
>
> That may also solve your crashing problem.

Exiting the external Emacs solves the problem, too.

Claws Mail is just nice and doesn't forcefully quit the external editor
when exiting. You need to quit that editor yourself. I run the old-school
"emacs --no-splash %s" as external editor, btw.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep 30 12:50:54 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:50:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3528] New: glib check needs to be improved
Message-ID: <bug-3528-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3528

            Bug ID: 3528
           Summary: glib check needs to be improved
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.12.0
          Hardware: Macintosh
                OS: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: niederstrasser at gmail.com

./configure checks for glib >= 2.20. However, the code uses GStatBuf, which is
from glib2 >= 2.24 or .26 (not sure).  I have 2.22.4, and claws-mail FTBFS like
this:

libtool: compile:  gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I../../intl
-I/sw/include/glib-2.0 -I/sw/lib/glib-2.0/include
-DLOCALEDIR=\"/sw/share/locale\" -DPLUGINDIR=\"/sw/lib/claws-mail/plugins/\"
-DDATAROOTDIR=\"/sw/share\"
-DDESKTOPFILEPATH=\"/sw/share/applications/claws-mail.desktop\"
-DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -I/sw/include -I/sw/include -g -O2
-Wno-unused-function -Wno-pointer-sign -Wall -no-cpp-precomp -fno-common
-I/sw/include/enchant -I/sw/include/glib-2.0 -I/sw/lib/glib-2.0/include -MT
socket.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/socket.Tpo -c socket.c  -fno-common -DPIC -o
.libs/socket.o
socket.c:221:2: error: use of undeclared identifier 'GStatBuf'
        GStatBuf s;
        ^
socket.c:228:34: error: use of undeclared identifier 's'
        if (g_stat("/etc/resolv.conf", &s) == 0) {
                                        ^
socket.c:229:7: error: use of undeclared identifier 's'
                if (s.st_mtime > resolv_conf_changed) {
                    ^
socket.c:230:26: error: use of undeclared identifier 's'
                        resolv_conf_changed = s.st_mtime;
                                              ^
4 errors generated.

Either the necessary version of glib2 must be bumped, or the code in socket.c
needs to be put inside a #ifdef.

GStatBuf is also used in another 28 files.

claws-mail-3.11.1 built fine on this system.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep 30 13:35:07 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 11:35:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3528] glib check needs to be improved
In-Reply-To: <bug-3528-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3528-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3528-595-tzNgoV94e6@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3528

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
I think this has already been fixed after the release, see
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=aab231b16fd07a9196fe882205658d33c78752d2

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep 30 14:04:10 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 12:04:10 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3529] New: Tray icon does not appear in e.g. Plasma 5
Message-ID: <bug-3529-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3529

            Bug ID: 3529
           Summary: Tray icon does not appear in e.g. Plasma 5
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.12.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Notification
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: rca at psy-q.ch

In newer desktops that appear to use libappindicator and no longer support the
"old" systray scheme, no systray icon for Claws-Mail notifications shows up.

The icons do appear when starting a standalone tray that works by the old
scheme, like Stalonetray.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep 30 14:06:30 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 12:06:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3529] Tray icon does not appear in e.g. Plasma 5
In-Reply-To: <bug-3529-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3529-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3529-595-75ZEdt3Msh@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3529

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 3465 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep 30 14:06:30 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 12:06:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3465] add libappindicator support to notification
	plugin
In-Reply-To: <bug-3465-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3465-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3465-595-xOghIEPuN7@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3465

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |rca at psy-q.ch

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
*** Bug 3529 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep 30 14:11:35 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 12:11:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3528] glib check needs to be improved
In-Reply-To: <bug-3528-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3528-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3528-595-fFT1R8SjA7@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3528

--- Comment #2 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> I think this has already been fixed after the release, see
> http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;
> h=aab231b16fd07a9196fe882205658d33c78752d2

Umm, according glib's history GStatBuf didn't exist until 2.25.7:
https://github.com/GNOME/glib/commit/1229281d95802c4c190284c7d331f67194a2553e

(I wonder if it's not easier just to require glib 2.26 on configure.ac and get
rid of that patch...)

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From francis.moro at gmail.com  Wed Sep 30 14:14:51 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 14:14:51 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <20150930101829.751b88bb@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
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On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) <rol at witbe.net> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 09:06:32 +0200
> Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)
>> <rol at witbe.net> wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:58:29 +0200
>> > Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> When deleting a long thread, I have to select the first email of the
>> >> thread, press shift, select the last email of the thread and then
>> >> press SUPPR.
>> >>
>> >> Would it possible to do instead: collapse the long thread, select the
>> >> first email of the thread and press SUPPR ?
>> >>
>> >> I think it would be more usefull than the current behaviour which only
>> >> deletes  the first email of the thread.
>> >
>> > My version of Claws (3.12.0) contains Edit > Delete thread.
>> >
>> > I've just made a test, when you do that while an email is selected, the
>> > whole thread is selected and deleted.
>> > What about binding a keyboard shortcut to that option and using it ?
>> > Details about the way to do that have been posted to the list many
>> > times.
>>
>> Again, I was just telling that the *default* behaviour doesn't make
>> sense to me and was suggesting to change it to something more
>> intuitive.
>>
>
> I understand. More clearly, I was suggesting you to assign "Suppr" as a
> shortcut to the "Edit > Delete thread" menu item.
> That would even save you the need to collapse the thread... Of course, the
> drawback is that you have to define something different if you want to
> delete a message.

ok, my last try: imagine your summary window has a lot of different
threads. You want to delete the old ones, let say 10 of them. Isn't
more convenient to colapse all threads, then select the ones you want
to supprim then press SUPPR and you're done ?

What is the *default* behaviour in this case ? after selecting the old
threads you want to delete, you press SUPPR and .... tada... only the
root of each thread is deleted... wonderful !

BTW, this is also true for others operations such as copy, move etc..

>
> And obviously, as already suggested, if none of all the "solutions"
> proposed suits you, you are free to download the source code and patch it.
>

actually my plan is to fork claws... come on... are you serious ?

-- 
Francis


From francis.moro at gmail.com  Wed Sep 30 14:21:40 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 14:21:40 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <20150930092401.2001a747@hiker>
References: <CAC9WiBgiNDM0noxY4Ei5-Yrozrc1xO2WUrtV64SbHge3vkHCog@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 09:06:32 +0200
> Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Again, I was just telling that the *default* behaviour doesn't make
>> sense to me and was suggesting to change it to something more
>> intuitive.
>
> You are free to modify your copy of Claws Mail in this regard. You are,
> however, not free to dictate what feels "more intuitive" for everyone
> else.

come on... no one is trying to dictate how everyone should do...

I was just suggesting that the default behaviour should be changed
because it currently doesnt make sense to me.

And the only answers were: you can customize the keybinding (out of
topic), you can patch claws (seriously!).

But none has tried to come with a valid use case.
-- 
Francis


From pf at pfortin.com  Wed Sep 30 15:38:46 2015
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 09:38:46 -0400
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 14:14:51 +0200 Francis Moreau wrote:

>ok, my last try: 
Somehow, I'm not convinced...

>imagine your summary window has a lot of different
>threads. You want to delete the old ones, let say 10 of them. Isn't
>more convenient to colapse all threads, then select the ones you want
>to supprim then press SUPPR and you're done ?

...and many newcomers to CM start complaining that hitting ONE key
deleted MANY IMPORTANT emails.  NOT what THEY were expecting...  How would
you propose the current devs handle those complaints?

How to do what you want/need has been pointed out.  You seem to have
enough skills to understand your "problem", the workaround/fix, and how
to use it...  Not everything in CM will make sense to you; but sometimes
choices were made long ago by devs who are no longer here. 

I LOVE CM. Used it for nearly 14 years (since Sylpheed-claws days) and
have nothing but respect for the WONDERFUL devs who work hard to make
SC/CM the BEST MUA they can, mostly for their own use and simply for the
joy of it.  The fact that WE (normal users) get to enjoy their generous
efforts is awesome.  

I too had a few back and forth discussions with devs in the past; but this
barrage of:  is too! is not! is too! is not! is too! is not! is too! is
not! is too! is not! is too! is not! is too! is not! is getting OLD! Each
response (either way) should contain something usefully new, or not be
sent.

>What is the *default* behaviour in this case ? after selecting the old
>threads you want to delete, you press SUPPR and .... tada... only the
>root of each thread is deleted... wonderful !

This is how I interpret your real, unstated point: you expect someone
else to come to the same conclusion as you, make it the default, and more
importantly save you the "trouble" of actively choosing to enable
something potentially dangerous...  All without considering ramifications
you missed or deny; such as...

To a NEW user, [s]he would a) not realize this was a "problem", b) wipe
brow with a "PHEW! That was close!" -- silently being thankful for not
losing a whole thread, c) eventually realize one-at-a-time is slow & ask
about it, get a solution [for the more expert user], and USE it...

>BTW, this is also true for others operations such as copy, move etc..

Same reasoning applies here...  Ever "accidentally" drag a LARGE folder
to another location?  Watching & waiting until it completes, knowing the
pain will be doubled when you want to put it back...

My point is that some defaults are intended to avoid the OPPOSITE rant
chains... er... threads...

PLEASE, do NOT pick at anything I said here as misplaced proof of me "not
understanding" your issue...  I have better things to do than write a
novel to cover every corner case anyone thinks I missed.

Let's put this thread to bed...   OK? :)

HTH,
Pierre


From linux at slavino.sk  Wed Sep 30 16:07:50 2015
From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 16:07:50 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
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Ahoj,

Dňa Wed, 30 Sep 2015 09:38:46 -0400 Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com>
napísal:

> On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 14:14:51 +0200 Francis Moreau wrote:
> 
> >imagine your summary window has a lot of different
> >threads. You want to delete the old ones, let say 10 of them. Isn't
> >more convenient to colapse all threads, then select the ones you want
> >to supprim then press SUPPR and you're done ?
> 
> ...and many newcomers to CM start complaining that hitting ONE key
> deleted MANY IMPORTANT emails.  NOT what THEY were expecting...  How
> would you propose the current devs handle those complaints?

Another point of view:

When i switch to 64bit Windows7 (in job), the CM was not working, then
i switch to Thunderbird on this machine and i was very surprised (after
years of using CM only), that when i hit the DEL key on collapsed
thread, whole thread is deleted -- because i was expecting, that only
the first message will be deleted. But i do not take idea to ask the
Thunderbird's developers to change this behavior, but i accepted it as
the Thunderbird's feature.

In other words, i cannot expect that the two (or more) different
software need to have the same behavior. If yes, why then to have
more apps for the same purpose?

Yes, i see this often in the Windows world - many people expect the same
behavior in different applications, most of them ask to have the same
usage, the same shortcuts, the same appearance, etc. IMO, they never
understand (automatically) that there is not one best solution, but
anybody need to find own one. Windows people are often not able change
their point of view (and expectations), when they switch to Linux and
they want to have Windows, but for free. I am happy, that the Linux is
not as Windows, and i can use my own workflow (here shortcuts) and not
to use the "best" one (my definition of the best is often different
from others).

(in previous text, the "Windows user" not necessary need to use the
Windows OS) ;-)

regards

-- 
Slavko
http://slavino.sk
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From rhutter at posteo.de  Wed Sep 30 16:11:54 2015
From: rhutter at posteo.de (Ralf Hutter)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 16:11:54 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
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Am Wed, 30 Sep 2015 09:38:46 -0400
schrieb Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com>:

> On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 14:14:51 +0200 Francis Moreau wrote:
> 
> >ok, my last try: 
> Somehow, I'm not convinced...
> 
> >imagine your summary window has a lot of different
> >threads. You want to delete the old ones, let say 10 of them. Isn't
> >more convenient to colapse all threads, then select the ones you want
> >to supprim then press SUPPR and you're done ?
> 
> ...and many newcomers to CM start complaining that hitting ONE key
> deleted MANY IMPORTANT emails.  NOT what THEY were expecting...  How
> would you propose the current devs handle those complaints?
> 
> How to do what you want/need has been pointed out.  You seem to have
> enough skills to understand your "problem", the workaround/fix, and
> how to use it...  Not everything in CM will make sense to you; but
> sometimes choices were made long ago by devs who are no longer here. 
> 
> I LOVE CM. Used it for nearly 14 years (since Sylpheed-claws days) and
> have nothing but respect for the WONDERFUL devs who work hard to make
> SC/CM the BEST MUA they can, mostly for their own use and simply for
> the joy of it.  The fact that WE (normal users) get to enjoy their
> generous efforts is awesome.  
> 
> I too had a few back and forth discussions with devs in the past; but
> this barrage of:  is too! is not! is too! is not! is too! is not! is
> too! is not! is too! is not! is too! is not! is too! is not! is
> getting OLD! Each response (either way) should contain something
> usefully new, or not be sent.
> 
> >What is the *default* behaviour in this case ? after selecting the
> >old threads you want to delete, you press SUPPR and .... tada...
> >only the root of each thread is deleted... wonderful !
> 
> This is how I interpret your real, unstated point: you expect someone
> else to come to the same conclusion as you, make it the default, and
> more importantly save you the "trouble" of actively choosing to enable
> something potentially dangerous...  All without considering
> ramifications you missed or deny; such as...
> 
> To a NEW user, [s]he would a) not realize this was a "problem", b)
> wipe brow with a "PHEW! That was close!" -- silently being thankful
> for not losing a whole thread, c) eventually realize one-at-a-time is
> slow & ask about it, get a solution [for the more expert user], and
> USE it...
> 
> >BTW, this is also true for others operations such as copy, move etc..
> 
> Same reasoning applies here...  Ever "accidentally" drag a LARGE
> folder to another location?  Watching & waiting until it completes,
> knowing the pain will be doubled when you want to put it back...
> 
> My point is that some defaults are intended to avoid the OPPOSITE rant
> chains... er... threads...
> 
> PLEASE, do NOT pick at anything I said here as misplaced proof of me
> "not understanding" your issue...  I have better things to do than
> write a novel to cover every corner case anyone thinks I missed.
> 
> Let's put this thread to bed...   OK? :)
> 
> HTH,
> Pierre
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

Actually i had no intention of responding to this thread anymore, but
such arrogance as writing a long email and ending by saying "Please
don't respond to all of this, please don't criticize me" is just too
provocative.
I see two arguments in pierre's letter:
1. Some devs long ago might have chosen the way it is. 2. New users
might be confused or even do something wrong if we implement the other
way.
1. is obviously no reason to let things as they are if we come to the
conclusion that another way looks more appropriate. It is, most of all,
no replacement for arguments in favor of the status quo.
2. is not convincing me. What pierre is imagining regarding a new user
is not a big issue. It comes down to knowing the difference
between a single email and a thread. After you deleted a whole thread
accidentally once, instead of an email, you will know the difference
even if you didn't know it before. You will notice that the difference
is visible. After you deleted the thread accidentally you will be able
to get it back, because you should be able to notice it at once and go
to the trash folder. This is not about moving whole folders, as pierre
was writing.
Cheers,
Ralf


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Wed Sep 30 16:20:19 2015
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 15:20:19 +0100
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <CAC9WiBgTg_7au37jb0tJTZYU4SJO-vyKk1BL3MjQ+j18wyUZaw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20150930152019.0000604f@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 14:21:40 +0200
Francis Moreau wrote:

> I was just suggesting that the default behaviour should be changed
> because it currently doesnt make sense to me.

It's a more significant problem if deleting a collapsed thread deletes
things you can't see are selected (the children of the parent) rather
than just the thing you have specifically selected (the parent message).

If you are saying that you'd like to have Delete thread entry added to
the context menu brought up with a right click, or maybe when you hit
Delete you get a choice of parent/thread then I would see this as an
reasonable request but I have to say that it's unusual for me to delete
a complete thread so I rarely run into the issue you are raising.

The developers are quite keen on not adding excessive menu entries in
general, they prefer to keep the number down to regularly used items. I
don't know if they view this change as suitable for the default case.

-- 

Brian Morrison


From claws-mail at bercot.org  Wed Sep 30 17:14:27 2015
From: claws-mail at bercot.org (David BERCOT)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 17:14:27 +0200
Subject: [Users] GData plugin
In-Reply-To: <20150915065157.GA2119@busgosu.mones.org>
References: <20150914085846.77a54438@debian-david>
 <20150914082930.6090edc3@kujata> <20150914083312.45cfcb87@kujata>
 <20150914112234.69dddd66@debian-david>
 <20150915065157.GA2119@busgosu.mones.org>
Message-ID: <20150930171427.6889fa07@bercot.org>

Hello,

This problem was solved until this morning ! I've updated Claws-Mail to version 3.12.0-90-gf20d6e. Maybe there were other updates on my system...
And the popup is back ;-)

David.

Le Tue, 15 Sep 2015 08:51:57 +0200,
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> a écrit :
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 11:22:34AM +0200, David BERCOT wrote:
> > Le Mon, 14 Sep 2015 08:33:12 +0100,
> > Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> a écrit :  
> > > On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 08:29:30 +0100
> > > Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote: 
> > >   
> > > > upgrade libgdata to version 0.17.1    
> > > 
> > > On second thoughts, it could be that 0.17.2 is needed. (Not sure, I
> > > don't use google services.)  
> > 
> > Well, probably ;-)
> > 
> > $ apt-cache policy libgdata22
> > libgdata22:
> >   Installé : 0.17.2-1
> >   Candidat : 0.17.2-1
> >  Table de version :
> >  *** 0.17.2-1 0
> >         400 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ testing/main amd64 Packages
> >         600 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
> > 
> > I'll wait for 0.17.2.  
> 
> Unless it's a different system the above says you already have 0.17.2
> installed. But this version still may resort to interactive authorization
> if refreshing with the saved token fails, watch network log for this.
> 
> HTH,
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From ml at terranean.eu  Wed Sep 30 18:01:54 2015
From: ml at terranean.eu (=?UTF-8?B?U8OpYmFzdGllbg==?=)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 18:01:54 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
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le 2015-09-30, Francis écrivit:
>On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)
>> And obviously, as already suggested, if none of all the "solutions"
>> proposed suits you, you are free to download the source code and
>> patch it.
>>
>actually my plan is to fork claws... come on... are you serious ?
>

Patching is one thing, forking is another.

-- 
Sébastien


From iron_order_sucks_ass at openmailbox.org  Wed Sep 30 18:37:16 2015
From: iron_order_sucks_ass at openmailbox.org (Jim Beam)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 11:37:16 -0500
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 16:11:54 +0200

  Seems to me, things Just Work in Claws, as is. Why is it so hard for
  users/new users to simply just learn to use it as it is?

  Big deal..."one long thread" - simple solution, edit->delete thread...wow,
  that was so difficult I think I'll bitch and complain to someone at Claws to
  make them change it somehow.

  Get over yourselves, ye who wish to not learn how to use something as it is.
  It's simple enough, it's *YOU* who's making things difficult for *yourself*.


-- 
http://www.wacobikerjustice.com/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/04/14/confederate-soldiers-are-american-
veterans-by-act-of-congress/


From augustindoury at gmail.com  Wed Sep 30 18:39:46 2015
From: augustindoury at gmail.com (Augustin Doury)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 16:39:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] Problem with sorting method inside threads with same Subject
Message-ID: <CAPpyHsHxyjnH+kJ6RRCo=JpCgdJ9t5_voG+C80ewGjFHOMa_9A@mail.gmail.com>

My first time on this mailing : hi everybody !

I'm new on ClawsMail after leaving Thunderbird. My first impressions are
really good.

It's like the thread sorting option is sorting my emails just by
date/subject and not by "conversation". When I send emails, I sometimes let
the subject empty "". So when people answer me, the subject is "Re:" and
when they answer me again it's "Re:Re:Re:" an so on.
But I have differents conversations with different people and the thread
sorting option of ClawsMail mix everything.

For example I have this kind of thread :

> Re:        Conversation1        09/07/15
   Re:        Conversation2        09/11/15
      Re:        Conversation3        09/21/15
      Re:        Conversation3        09/21/15
       Re:        Conversation4        09/30/15
       Re:        Conversation4        09/30/15
       Re:        Conversation4        09/30/15
      Re:        Conversation2        09/11/15
     Re:        Conversation1        09/08/15
      Re:        Conversation1        09/08/15
       Re:        Conversation1        09/09/15
     Re:        Conversation1        09/07/15

As you can see I sent emails today (conversation4) without subject, when my
contact answer me, this new message was far away in my mailbox (near
09/07/15 instead of 09/30/15).

How to manage this ?

Thanks in advance :)

Augustin
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From linxt at comcast.net  Wed Sep 30 19:23:06 2015
From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:23:06 -0700
Subject: [Users] Problem with sorting method inside threads with same
 Subject
In-Reply-To: <CAPpyHsHxyjnH+kJ6RRCo=JpCgdJ9t5_voG+C80ewGjFHOMa_9A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPpyHsHxyjnH+kJ6RRCo=JpCgdJ9t5_voG+C80ewGjFHOMa_9A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150930102306.164466b3@desktop-1.home>

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 16:39:46 +0000
Augustin Doury <augustindoury at gmail.com> wrote:

> My first time on this mailing : hi everybody !
> 
> I'm new on ClawsMail after leaving Thunderbird. My first impressions are
> really good.
> 
> It's like the thread sorting option is sorting my emails just by
> date/subject and not by "conversation". When I send emails, I sometimes let
> the subject empty "". So when people answer me, the subject is "Re:" and
> when they answer me again it's "Re:Re:Re:" an so on.
> But I have differents conversations with different people and the thread
> sorting option of ClawsMail mix everything.
> 
> For example I have this kind of thread :
> 
> > Re:        Conversation1        09/07/15
>    Re:        Conversation2        09/11/15
>       Re:        Conversation3        09/21/15
>       Re:        Conversation3        09/21/15
>        Re:        Conversation4        09/30/15
>        Re:        Conversation4        09/30/15
>        Re:        Conversation4        09/30/15
>       Re:        Conversation2        09/11/15
>      Re:        Conversation1        09/08/15
>       Re:        Conversation1        09/08/15
>        Re:        Conversation1        09/09/15
>      Re:        Conversation1        09/07/15
> 
> As you can see I sent emails today (conversation4) without subject, when my
> contact answer me, this new message was far away in my mailbox (near
> 09/07/15 instead of 09/30/15).
> 
> How to manage this ?
> 
> Thanks in advance :)
> 
> Augustin

Since sorting is based (in part) on subject you could start using a subject.
That would allow the recipient to know what the message is about (good
manners/etiquette on a mail list).

You could possibly assign some kind of label/tag to each recipient (i.e.;
persons initials).

QUESTION:  How are you starting a new message thread?  Are you starting a new
message thread from scratch (ctrl-M) or just reusing an existing thread and
changing (deleting) the subject? If reusing, be aware that a "thread" has a
thread number which is used along with the subject for sorting,  In that case a
message to a different person/list would still have the same thread number and
with no subject would all sort to the same folder.

Tom

-- 

When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat.
  -  Anonymous

^^  --...  ...--  / -.-  --.  --...  -.-.  ..-.  -.-.

^^^^
Tom Taylor  KG7CFC
openSUSE 13.1 (64-bit), Kernel 3.11.6-4-default,
KDE 4.11.2, AMD A8-7600, GeForce GTX 740 T/PCIe/
16GB RAM -- 3x1.5TB sata2 -- 128GB-SSD
FF 37.0, claws-mail 3.10.1
registered linux user 263467


From augustindoury at gmail.com  Wed Sep 30 20:40:01 2015
From: augustindoury at gmail.com (Augustin Doury)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 19:40:01 +0100
Subject: [Users] Problem with sorting method inside threads with same
	Subject
In-Reply-To: <20150930102306.164466b3@desktop-1.home>
References: <CAPpyHsHxyjnH+kJ6RRCo=JpCgdJ9t5_voG+C80ewGjFHOMa_9A@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAPpyHsEoyuJJuWH1Rv9zUdxOv4K3u7g4HNEaOM8MacdSf6q7_g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Thanks for your quick answer.

1) As you can see on this mailing list, I used a subject because it was
useful. If sometimes I do not use a subject, I have my reasons and they are
good for me, If you think about it, I'm sure you will find some good
reasons for, sometimes, avoid a subject. So please no advice on good
manners or etiquette :)

2) I expect a mail client which answer my need, I'm not going to put a
subject where I did not put a subject before, just because Clawsmail need
it to sort emails. I'v never seen a webmail or a mail client which
absolutely need a subject to manage the threads.
Thank you for the idea of using label/tags but I feel like it's too much
work for me just to have my emails sorted, it should be native.

4) When I create a thread, I just write a new message and send it to
somebody. I thought also that each thread has a thread number, but it does
not seem to be used by clawsmail to sort emails (that's why I wrote that my
emails were sorted just "by date/subject"). The problem is the same for
sorting my old "no subject" emails, sent from my webmail in the past.

Augustin



2015-09-30 18:23 GMT+01:00 Thomas Taylor <linxt at comcast.net>:

> On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 16:39:46 +0000
> Augustin Doury <augustindoury at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > My first time on this mailing : hi everybody !
> >
> > I'm new on ClawsMail after leaving Thunderbird. My first impressions are
> > really good.
> >
> > It's like the thread sorting option is sorting my emails just by
> > date/subject and not by "conversation". When I send emails, I sometimes
> let
> > the subject empty "". So when people answer me, the subject is "Re:" and
> > when they answer me again it's "Re:Re:Re:" an so on.
> > But I have differents conversations with different people and the thread
> > sorting option of ClawsMail mix everything.
> >
> > For example I have this kind of thread :
> >
> > > Re:        Conversation1        09/07/15
> >    Re:        Conversation2        09/11/15
> >       Re:        Conversation3        09/21/15
> >       Re:        Conversation3        09/21/15
> >        Re:        Conversation4        09/30/15
> >        Re:        Conversation4        09/30/15
> >        Re:        Conversation4        09/30/15
> >       Re:        Conversation2        09/11/15
> >      Re:        Conversation1        09/08/15
> >       Re:        Conversation1        09/08/15
> >        Re:        Conversation1        09/09/15
> >      Re:        Conversation1        09/07/15
> >
> > As you can see I sent emails today (conversation4) without subject, when
> my
> > contact answer me, this new message was far away in my mailbox (near
> > 09/07/15 instead of 09/30/15).
> >
> > How to manage this ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance :)
> >
> > Augustin
>
> Since sorting is based (in part) on subject you could start using a
> subject.
> That would allow the recipient to know what the message is about (good
> manners/etiquette on a mail list).
>
> You could possibly assign some kind of label/tag to each recipient (i.e.;
> persons initials).
>
> QUESTION:  How are you starting a new message thread?  Are you starting a
> new
> message thread from scratch (ctrl-M) or just reusing an existing thread and
> changing (deleting) the subject? If reusing, be aware that a "thread" has a
> thread number which is used along with the subject for sorting,  In that
> case a
> message to a different person/list would still have the same thread number
> and
> with no subject would all sort to the same folder.
>
> Tom
>
> --
>
> When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat.
>   -  Anonymous
>
> ^^  --...  ...--  / -.-  --.  --...  -.-.  ..-.  -.-.
>
> ^^^^
> Tom Taylor  KG7CFC
> openSUSE 13.1 (64-bit), Kernel 3.11.6-4-default,
> KDE 4.11.2, AMD A8-7600, GeForce GTX 740 T/PCIe/
> 16GB RAM -- 3x1.5TB sata2 -- 128GB-SSD
> FF 37.0, claws-mail 3.10.1
> registered linux user 263467
> _______________________________________________
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> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
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From andrej at kacian.sk  Wed Sep 30 21:20:50 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 21:20:50 +0200
Subject: [Users] Problem with sorting method inside threads with same
 Subject
In-Reply-To: <CAPpyHsHxyjnH+kJ6RRCo=JpCgdJ9t5_voG+C80ewGjFHOMa_9A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPpyHsHxyjnH+kJ6RRCo=JpCgdJ9t5_voG+C80ewGjFHOMa_9A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150930212050.3341517c@penny>

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 16:39:46 +0000
Augustin Doury <augustindoury at gmail.com> wrote:

> It's like the thread sorting option is sorting my emails just by
> date/subject and not by "conversation".

The default threading is done by reading standard headers (In-Reply-To,
References), and there is an option found in Preferences,  "Thread
using subject in addition to standard headers", and it's enabled by
default.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From linux at slavino.sk  Wed Sep 30 21:31:14 2015
From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 21:31:14 +0200
Subject: [Users] Problem with sorting method inside threads with same
 Subject
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Ahoj,

Dňa Wed, 30 Sep 2015 19:40:01 +0100 Augustin Doury
<augustindoury at gmail.com> napísal:

> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for your quick answer.
> 
> 1) As you can see on this mailing list, I used a subject because it
> was useful. If sometimes I do not use a subject, I have my reasons
> and they are good for me, If you think about it, I'm sure you will
> find some good reasons for, sometimes, avoid a subject. So please no
> advice on good manners or etiquette :)

I love mails without subject, they are quickly solved by me - with the
DEL key ;-)

> 2) I expect a mail client which answer my need, I'm not going to put a
> subject where I did not put a subject before, just because Clawsmail
> need it to sort emails. I'v never seen a webmail or a mail client
> which absolutely need a subject to manage the threads.
> Thank you for the idea of using label/tags but I feel like it's too
> much work for me just to have my emails sorted, it should be native.

Your expectations are wrong. Try read the RFC about mail headers and
about relations between emails.

> 4) When I create a thread, I just write a new message and send it to
> somebody. I thought also that each thread has a thread number, but it
> does not seem to be used by clawsmail to sort emails (that's why I
> wrote that my emails were sorted just "by date/subject"). The problem
> is the same for sorting my old "no subject" emails, sent from my
> webmail in the past.

You cannot create thread, you can send message only, which is not
related to others. Thread is created by the first reply with relation,
but some clients doesn't properly sets the appropriate headers, then
there is threading by subject as addition.

regards

-- 
Slavko
http://slavino.sk
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From barry at python.org  Wed Sep 30 23:00:10 2015
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 17:00:10 -0400
Subject: [Users] Don't do auto-wrapping when using external editor or
 inserting a file
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On Sep 29, 2015, at 09:19 AM, Francis Moreau wrote:

>Even if auto-wrapping is enabled in the preferences, I think it should
>be automatically disabled when composing an email with an external
>editor or inserting the file because in that case claws-mail shouldn't
>care about the content of the email.

Why not just disable auto-wrapping globally?  I use Emacs (really emacsclient)
as my external editor[1] and just turning it off works great.  If Emacs isn't
running, I don't want to edit the text anyway! :)

Cheers,
-Barry

[1] for me, the external editor feature of CM was *the* killer feature.
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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Wed Sep 30 23:57:57 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 23:57:57 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
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In what colour should we paint the bike shed?

SICR