From francis.moro at gmail.com  Thu Oct  1 07:39:41 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 07:39:41 +0200
Subject: [Users] Don't do auto-wrapping when using external editor or
 inserting a file
In-Reply-To: <20150930170010.121b0e37@anarchist.wooz.org>
References: <CAC9WiBgbSEn5g1V_7Joic-J51ycmUCOsySkiquxttxCH6z+VQQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Hello,

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:00 PM, Barry Warsaw <barry at python.org> wrote:
> On Sep 29, 2015, at 09:19 AM, Francis Moreau wrote:
>
>>Even if auto-wrapping is enabled in the preferences, I think it should
>>be automatically disabled when composing an email with an external
>>editor or inserting the file because in that case claws-mail shouldn't
>>care about the content of the email.
>
> Why not just disable auto-wrapping globally?

Well because for very short email I don't have the need to start emacs
currently.

> I use Emacs (really emacsclient)

I like to edit my emails with the message-mode and the downside with
emacsclient is that I haven't found a way to start it with a specific
mode.

Currently for starting emacs I'm using: "emacs --no-desktop '%s' -f
message-mode",

I can probably add a rule in my ~/.emacs to automtically use
message-mode based on the name of the temporary file CM creates to
store my email but I choose the cleanest past (IMO) and starting emacs
on my machine is as fast as starting emacsclient, really.

> as my external editor[1] and just turning it off works great.  If Emacs isn't
> running, I don't want to edit the text anyway! :)
>
> [1] for me, the external editor feature of CM was *the* killer feature.
>

I tend to agree. It would be awesome if the window used by emacs would
be the same as (or map) the one used by CM editor (the one where you
actually type your message body)


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From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au  Thu Oct  1 09:49:38 2015
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 17:49:38 +1000
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <20150929102918.00002814@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <CAC9WiBgiNDM0noxY4Ei5-Yrozrc1xO2WUrtV64SbHge3vkHCog@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20151001174938.3a9c7a43@PPlive>

On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:29:18 +0100
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:10:52 +0200
> Ralf Hutter wrote:
> 
> > I agree. I too would prefer the possibility to delete the thread
> > right away, without having to go to any menu before.
> 
> So use the GTK feature of binding a key combo to the menu entry...

I am not the original poster, but could you please point me at a 
definitive guide to configuring GTK?  There seem to be a lot of little
utilities about that write various magic incarnations mysterious files.
A link to a dummy's guide would probably be helpful.  

TIA

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bP


From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au  Thu Oct  1 09:56:23 2015
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 17:56:23 +1000
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <20150930075328.1679157f@anthra>
References: <CAC9WiBgiNDM0noxY4Ei5-Yrozrc1xO2WUrtV64SbHge3vkHCog@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 07:53:28 +0200
wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:

> Hello Francis,
> 
> 
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 07:38:02 +0200 Francis Moreau
> <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> > > On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:30:34 +0200
> > > Ralf Hutter <rhutter at posteo.de> wrote:
> > >  
> > >> To be fair: Out of the 3 people giving their opinion before your
> > >> last email, paul (in your first email you didn't seem to give an
> > >> opinion but rather a hint on a kind of workaround), 2 were saying
> > >> that they dislike the current way it works.  
> > >
> > > The way it currently works is not an accident, but represents the
> > > dev team's opinion on how it should work. Since this is implicit,
> > > I didn't think it was worth a mention, but since you seem to be
> > > not taking that into consideration, I've mentioned it now.
> > >  
> > 
> > Ok, the dev team thinks it's how it should work but haven't
> > explained why they think so:
> > 
> > Why does the dev team think that  collapsing the entire thread and
> > press SUPPR on the root email of the thread should delete the root
> > email only and let a partially broken thread (ie a thread with
> > missing emails) ?
> > 
> > Seriously I really don't see any reason this is superior than delete
> > the whole thread.
> 
> I tend to agree, things could be better there, like del key to delete
> a message, shift+del to delete message and children, with no regards
> to what's collapsed or not, root node or whatever. Usually, GUI's may
> behave differently when handling collapsed things, but doing things in
> blind mode without a warning about deleting a tree or a specific
> action (shift+.., ctrl+..) scares me a bit.

I like that, but how about; 
del -> message to trash
shift+del -> really delete message
ctl+del -> message and children to trash
shift+ctl+del -> really delete message and children. 
Maybe ask for confirmation the first time.  

-- 
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bP


From ml at terranean.eu  Thu Oct  1 10:17:43 2015
From: ml at terranean.eu (=?UTF-8?B?U8OpYmFzdGllbg==?=)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 10:17:43 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <20151001174938.3a9c7a43@PPlive>
References: <CAC9WiBgiNDM0noxY4Ei5-Yrozrc1xO2WUrtV64SbHge3vkHCog@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20151001101743.2316918d@sentinel>

le 2015-10-01, blind écrivit:
>On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:29:18 +0100, Brian Morrison wrote:
>> So use the GTK feature of binding a key combo to the menu entry...
>
>I am not the original poster, but could you please point me at a 
>definitive guide to configuring GTK?  There seem to be a lot of little
>utilities about that write various magic incarnations mysterious files.
>A link to a dummy's guide would probably be helpful.  

I often use Arch Linux's wiki, the pages are pretty much complete, human
readable, and well detailed.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GTK%2B

For this specific feature though, you don't need to change anything to
GTK+ configuration files. Just go in the Claws-Mail Preferences, down to
the Others/Miscellaneous pane, and check "Enable customisable keyboard
shortcuts".

If you want to use it in other GTK+ programs, then you need to add:
gtk-can-change-accels = 1
to your ~/.gtkrc.mine file.


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct  1 10:29:46 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 08:29:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3524] vCard does not decode all quoted-printable values
In-Reply-To: <bug-3524-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3524-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3524-595-oSz2vbWoGj@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3524

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
            Summary|vCard does not decode       |vCard does not decode all
                   |quoted-printable values     |quoted-printable values

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct  1 11:28:36 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 09:28:36 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3433] Passwords containing an exclamation mark cause
 log in failure
In-Reply-To: <bug-3433-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3433-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3433-595-FS0el2tURd@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3433

bugzilla at rsilvola.com changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #3 from bugzilla at rsilvola.com ---
Version 3.12.0 does not suffer from this bug.

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From augustindoury at gmail.com  Thu Oct  1 11:41:12 2015
From: augustindoury at gmail.com (Augustin Doury)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 09:41:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] Problem with sorting method inside threads with same
	Subject
In-Reply-To: <20150930213114.479fd0f1@bonifac>
References: <CAPpyHsHxyjnH+kJ6RRCo=JpCgdJ9t5_voG+C80ewGjFHOMa_9A@mail.gmail.com>
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@Andrej : thank to you, I definitely adopt ClawsMail, your answer resolved
my problem !

@Slavko :
- if I send an email to you, I will use a special subject, I promise.
- my expectations were not really wrong : there was an option for this in
Preferences and as you said "threading by subject" is in "addition", I just
do not want this addition
- thank you for precision in last statement about how threads are created

Have a good day all,

Augustin

2015-09-30 19:31 GMT+00:00 Slavko <linux at slavino.sk>:

> Ahoj,
>
> Dňa Wed, 30 Sep 2015 19:40:01 +0100 Augustin Doury
> <augustindoury at gmail.com> napísal:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thanks for your quick answer.
> >
> > 1) As you can see on this mailing list, I used a subject because it
> > was useful. If sometimes I do not use a subject, I have my reasons
> > and they are good for me, If you think about it, I'm sure you will
> > find some good reasons for, sometimes, avoid a subject. So please no
> > advice on good manners or etiquette :)
>
> I love mails without subject, they are quickly solved by me - with the
> DEL key ;-)
>
> > 2) I expect a mail client which answer my need, I'm not going to put a
> > subject where I did not put a subject before, just because Clawsmail
> > need it to sort emails. I'v never seen a webmail or a mail client
> > which absolutely need a subject to manage the threads.
> > Thank you for the idea of using label/tags but I feel like it's too
> > much work for me just to have my emails sorted, it should be native.
>
> Your expectations are wrong. Try read the RFC about mail headers and
> about relations between emails.
>
> > 4) When I create a thread, I just write a new message and send it to
> > somebody. I thought also that each thread has a thread number, but it
> > does not seem to be used by clawsmail to sort emails (that's why I
> > wrote that my emails were sorted just "by date/subject"). The problem
> > is the same for sorting my old "no subject" emails, sent from my
> > webmail in the past.
>
> You cannot create thread, you can send message only, which is not
> related to others. Thread is created by the first reply with relation,
> but some clients doesn't properly sets the appropriate headers, then
> there is threading by subject as addition.
>
> regards
>
> --
> Slavko
> http://slavino.sk
>
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct  1 11:44:31 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 09:44:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3528] glib check needs to be improved
In-Reply-To: <bug-3528-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3528-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3528-595-lVAyBpJLqz@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3528

--- Comment #3 from Hanspeter Niederstrasser <niederstrasser at gmail.com> ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> I think this has already been fixed after the release, see
> http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;
> h=aab231b16fd07a9196fe882205658d33c78752d2

That did indeed take care of the problem.  Sorry about the noise.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct  1 13:11:19 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:11:19 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3526] autoconfiguration: get more detailed error
	message
In-Reply-To: <bug-3526-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3526-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3526-595-9bkiC63MNN@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3526

--- Comment #6 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #5)
> Created attachment 1576 [details]
> autoconfiguration: log to network log

Umm, I've just made a simpler patch based on your second one which I'll
probably apply tonight.

Once applied I don't think logging to network log is required for this, as
errors are going to be seen on the interface anyway.

Sorry for not being able to answer before ;-)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct  1 17:29:22 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 15:29:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3528] glib check needs to be improved
In-Reply-To: <bug-3528-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3528-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3528-595-OKLpYNU01i@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3528

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

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         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

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From luigi.vtt at gmail.com  Thu Oct  1 19:46:14 2015
From: luigi.vtt at gmail.com (Luigi Votta)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 19:46:14 +0200
Subject: [Users] claws-mail-plugins-geolocation will not built
Message-ID: <20151001194614.3ad0b18d@Host-002.homenet.telecomitalia.it>

Hello,
I'm trying to build claws-mail (3.13.0) and its plugins on Fedora 22.
All seems to go, except the geolocation plugin, because of some
missings, as claimed by configure.log:

$PKG_CONFIG --exists --print-errors "champlain-gtk-0.8 0.8.0"  
Package champlain-gtk-0.8 was not found in the pkg-config search
path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing
champlain-gtk-0.8.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'champlain-gtk-0.8' found
 
Package clutter-gtk-0.10 was not found in the pkg-config search
path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing
`clutter-gtk-0.10.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'clutter-gtk-0.10' found  

These versions are installed:
libchamplain-gtk-devel-0.12.10-1.fc22.i686
clutter-gtk-devel-1.6.2-1.fc22.i686.

Any help?

Many thanks
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct  1 21:49:17 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:49:17 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3530] New: html link not shown as link
Message-ID: <bug-3530-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3530

            Bug ID: 3530
           Summary: html link not shown as link
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.9.3
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message View
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: mat.schult at web.de

Created attachment 1577
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1577&action=edit
Reduced example mail

Links in HTML mails do not show if there is a line break before the closing
</a> element. Example:

<a href="http://www.wikipedia.org/">this link does not work
</a>

Displays the text "this link does not work", but not as a link.
Actually, words within the same line as the </a> are highlighted as links:

<a href="http://www.wikipedia.org/">this link does not work
correctly</a>

Displays "this link does not work _correctly_" with only "correctly" being a
link.

Best Regards,
Matthias

PS: Reduced test case attached

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct  1 13:11:19 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:11:19 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3526] autoconfiguration: get more detailed error
	message
In-Reply-To: <bug-3526-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3526-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3526-595-Zw2EZQtEH6@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3526

--- Comment #7 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2015-10-01 22:07:02.186306990 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=bfec412f69678d4d696e2c6397b7f6660e8e2f53
Merge: 16faf31 e6aa883
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Thu Oct 1 22:07:01 2015 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=e6aa8837949636cb1c8540074b87e26907022c05
Author: Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
Date:   Wed Sep 30 23:17:41 2015 +0200

    Fix bug #3526 ‘autoconfiguration: get more detailed error message’

    Based on original patch by Christian Hesse (thanks!).

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct  1 10:29:46 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 08:29:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3524] vCard does not decode all quoted-printable values
In-Reply-To: <bug-3524-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3524-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3524-595-vi1HHYRGDt@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3524

--- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2015-10-01 22:09:02.545846205 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=62685e3f1f5233d0632f6296aebf78017bc94137
Merge: bfec412 76b854f
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Thu Oct 1 22:09:02 2015 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=76b854fd5e98f225dcee88f17cddebe72ace6683
Author: Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
Date:   Thu Oct 1 00:28:34 2015 +0200

    Fix bug #3524 ‘vCard does not decode all quoted-printable values’

    Support vCard 2.1 variants with UTF-8 charset and/or encoding type
    parameters, which were deprecated in vCard 3.0, but are currently
    being used in some smartphone contact list exporters.

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=8780b1f666b6c6ba0edbd12b597cceede8d18bde
Author: Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
Date:   Thu Oct 1 00:16:27 2015 +0200

    Fix bug #3516 ‘vCard icon misplaced’

    The icon was too big for the tree. Surrounding whitespace has been
    removed to fit at least as better as the others used on the AddressBook.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct  1 22:09:06 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 20:09:06 -0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3516] vCard icon misplaced
In-Reply-To: <bug-3516-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3516-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3516

--- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2015-10-01 22:09:02.545846205 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=62685e3f1f5233d0632f6296aebf78017bc94137
Merge: bfec412 76b854f
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Thu Oct 1 22:09:02 2015 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=76b854fd5e98f225dcee88f17cddebe72ace6683
Author: Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
Date:   Thu Oct 1 00:28:34 2015 +0200

    Fix bug #3524 ‘vCard does not decode all quoted-printable values’

    Support vCard 2.1 variants with UTF-8 charset and/or encoding type
    parameters, which were deprecated in vCard 3.0, but are currently
    being used in some smartphone contact list exporters.

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=8780b1f666b6c6ba0edbd12b597cceede8d18bde
Author: Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
Date:   Thu Oct 1 00:16:27 2015 +0200

    Fix bug #3516 ‘vCard icon misplaced’

    The icon was too big for the tree. Surrounding whitespace has been
    removed to fit at least as better as the others used on the AddressBook.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct  1 23:49:28 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 21:49:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3530] html link not shown as link
In-Reply-To: <bug-3530-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3530-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3530-595-RFQl0Fs6Ay@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3530

--- Comment #1 from Salvatore De Paolis <iwkse at claws-mail.org> ---
I suppose you're using the Fancy plugin to render HTML, is it the case? What's
your WebKit version? Here with WebKit 2.4.7 cannot reproduce the bug.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct  1 23:59:05 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 21:59:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3530] html link not shown as link
In-Reply-To: <bug-3530-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3530-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3530-595-8ApPwH2KUp@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3530

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I've also tested with the internal HTML render and it works as well. I suggest
you to update your claws mail version, latest is 3.12.0

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct  2 08:17:11 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 06:17:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3332] Focus rectangle doesn't get removed correctly
In-Reply-To: <bug-3332-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3332-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3332

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Yep, it's minorly annoying to have to reach for the rat :).  Been around for a
while, not new to 3.12.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct  2 08:23:43 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 06:23:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3476] loading remote content causes claws to hang and
 consume 200% CPU
In-Reply-To: <bug-3476-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3476-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3476

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That email works for me...  Loaded it into my local IMAP server and tested with
Claws 3.12.0, webkitgtk 2.4.9, NixOS master.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct  2 08:59:49 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 06:59:49 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3516] vCard icon misplaced
In-Reply-To: <bug-3516-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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Message-ID: <bug-3516-595-lSO3ch8GsC@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3516

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct  2 09:00:13 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 07:00:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3524] vCard does not decode all quoted-printable values
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References: <bug-3524-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3524

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct  2 09:00:28 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 07:00:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3526] autoconfiguration: get more detailed error
	message
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct  2 09:22:43 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 07:22:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3530] html link not shown as link
In-Reply-To: <bug-3530-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3530-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3530-595-A7Od6HhxtS@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3530

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--- Comment #3 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
closing this as it just works.

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct  2 09:25:53 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:25:53 +0100
Subject: [Users] claws-mail-plugins-geolocation will not built
In-Reply-To: <20151001194614.3ad0b18d@Host-002.homenet.telecomitalia.it>
References: <20151001194614.3ad0b18d@Host-002.homenet.telecomitalia.it>
Message-ID: <20151002082553.6dba7678@kujata.lan>

On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 19:46:14 +0200
Luigi Votta <luigi.vtt at gmail.com> wrote: 

> These versions are installed:
> libchamplain-gtk-devel-0.12.10-1.fc22.i686
> clutter-gtk-devel-1.6.2-1.fc22.i686.
> 
> Any help?

The geolocation plugin won't build with f22 packages. You will need
older versions of the 2 mentioned, versions which support gtk2.

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct  2 09:53:04 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 07:53:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3476] loading remote content causes claws to hang and
 consume 200% CPU
In-Reply-To: <bug-3476-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3476-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3476-595-QzF0WmnOzJ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3476

--- Comment #2 from Dieter Plaetinck <dieter at plaetinck.be> ---
@Khumba, the images load, and you're able to go to other emails once the email
has finished loading?

for me, it the UI gets stuck at "loading 50%", it shows no images, when I click
on other emails, it doesn't open them.
it takes a while for cpu to climb to 200% though, i wonder if that only happens
when i switch to another window and then back. but the UI always hangs for me.

i just tried it again with Claws Mail version 3.12.0


System Information
GTK+ 2.24.28 / GLib 2.44.1
Locale: en_US.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8)
Operating System: Linux 4.2.1-1-ARCH (x86_64)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct  2 10:40:37 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 08:40:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2554] Support libchamplain 0.10 and above in the
 geolocation plugin
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Message-ID: <bug-2554-595-iyskhTdZTH@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2554

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--- Comment #3 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commit;h=3c64fb648dbb155c971fd0108f40fee7a36d2cb1

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct  2 10:40:50 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 08:40:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2841] Toggling off map view goes to first message part,
 not previously selected message part
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2841

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--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commit;h=3c64fb648dbb155c971fd0108f40fee7a36d2cb1

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct  2 10:40:42 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 08:40:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2840] Frame-less globe button
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2840

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--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commit;h=3c64fb648dbb155c971fd0108f40fee7a36d2cb1

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct  2 10:41:01 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 08:41:01 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3298] Official names and common denominators
In-Reply-To: <bug-3298-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3298-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3298

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http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commit;h=3c64fb648dbb155c971fd0108f40fee7a36d2cb1

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct  2 10:40:55 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 08:40:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2842] Use geoiplookup & geoiplookup6
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http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commit;h=3c64fb648dbb155c971fd0108f40fee7a36d2cb1

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From bugreporter at abwesend.de  Fri Oct  2 12:11:17 2015
From: bugreporter at abwesend.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 12:11:17 +0200
Subject: [Users] claws-mail-plugins-geolocation will not built
In-Reply-To: <20151001194614.3ad0b18d@Host-002.homenet.telecomitalia.it>
References: <20151001194614.3ad0b18d@Host-002.homenet.telecomitalia.it>
Message-ID: <20151002121117.2de5d425@noname>

On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 19:46:14 +0200, Luigi Votta wrote:

> Hello,
> I'm trying to build claws-mail (3.13.0) and its plugins on Fedora 22.
> All seems to go, except the geolocation plugin, because of some
> missings, as claimed by configure.log:
> 
> $PKG_CONFIG --exists --print-errors "champlain-gtk-0.8 0.8.0"  
> Package champlain-gtk-0.8 was not found in the pkg-config search
> path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing
> champlain-gtk-0.8.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
> No package 'champlain-gtk-0.8' found
>  
> Package clutter-gtk-0.10 was not found in the pkg-config search
> path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing
> `clutter-gtk-0.10.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
> No package 'clutter-gtk-0.10' found  
> 
> These versions are installed:
> libchamplain-gtk-devel-0.12.10-1.fc22.i686
> clutter-gtk-devel-1.6.2-1.fc22.i686.
> 
> Any help?

Kinda strange to ask the same question that has been answered before
on Fedora's devel@ list:

  https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2015-October/215259.html

The spec file points out that libchamplain-gtk at Fedora is gtk3 based
while Claws Mail is gtk2 based. The built plugin package also includes
a README.Fedora file that says this:

  Cannot build this with libchamplain-gtk and clutter-gtk using gtk3 and
  Claws Mail using gtk2 (bugzilla 758173 and 662800).

It's like this since 2013, because nobody has looked into packaging an
older and gtk2-compatible libchamplain*.


From luigi.vtt at gmail.com  Fri Oct  2 13:20:35 2015
From: luigi.vtt at gmail.com (Luigi Votta)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 13:20:35 +0200
Subject: [Users] claws-mail-plugins-geolocation will not built
In-Reply-To: <20151002121117.2de5d425@noname>
References: <20151001194614.3ad0b18d@Host-002.homenet.telecomitalia.it>
 <20151002121117.2de5d425@noname>
Message-ID: <20151002132035.5888ac97@Host-002.homenet.telecomitalia.it>

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 12:11:17 +0200
Michael Schwendt <bugreporter at abwesend.de> wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 19:46:14 +0200, Luigi Votta wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > I'm trying to build claws-mail (3.13.0) and its plugins on Fedora
> > 22. All seems to go, except the geolocation plugin, because of some
> > missings, as claimed by configure.log:
> > 
> > $PKG_CONFIG --exists --print-errors "champlain-gtk-0.8 0.8.0"  
> > Package champlain-gtk-0.8 was not found in the pkg-config search
> > path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing
> > champlain-gtk-0.8.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
> > No package 'champlain-gtk-0.8' found
> >  
> > Package clutter-gtk-0.10 was not found in the pkg-config search
> > path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing
> > `clutter-gtk-0.10.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
> > No package 'clutter-gtk-0.10' found  
> > 
> > These versions are installed:
> > libchamplain-gtk-devel-0.12.10-1.fc22.i686
> > clutter-gtk-devel-1.6.2-1.fc22.i686.
> > 
> > Any help?
> 
> Kinda strange to ask the same question that has been answered before
> on Fedora's devel@ list:
> 
>   https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2015-October/215259.html
> 
I'm sorry for having opened two threads of the same problem on two
different m.l. Perhaps I was in a hurry for the next release :-)

> The spec file points out that libchamplain-gtk at Fedora is gtk3 based
> while Claws Mail is gtk2 based. The built plugin package also includes
> a README.Fedora file that says this:
> 
>   Cannot build this with libchamplain-gtk and clutter-gtk using gtk3
> and Claws Mail using gtk2 (bugzilla 758173 and 662800).
> 
> It's like this since 2013, because nobody has looked into packaging an
> older and gtk2-compatible libchamplain*.

I can attempt to packaging it on my machine and test if there would be
any conflicts. But for that I need some time. 

Greetings

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct  2 13:47:39 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 12:47:39 +0100
Subject: [Users] claws-mail-plugins-geolocation will not built
In-Reply-To: <20151002132035.5888ac97@Host-002.homenet.telecomitalia.it>
References: <20151001194614.3ad0b18d@Host-002.homenet.telecomitalia.it>
 <20151002121117.2de5d425@noname>
 <20151002132035.5888ac97@Host-002.homenet.telecomitalia.it>
Message-ID: <20151002124739.6a7f2813@kujata.lan>

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 13:20:35 +0200
Luigi Votta <luigi.vtt at gmail.com> wrote: 

> I can attempt to packaging it on my machine and test if there would
> be any conflicts. But for that I need some time. 

NEWSFLASH: that plugin will not be included in the next release!

with regards

Paul
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From luigi.vtt at gmail.com  Fri Oct  2 15:04:20 2015
From: luigi.vtt at gmail.com (Luigi Votta)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 15:04:20 +0200
Subject: [Users] claws-mail-plugins-geolocation will not built
In-Reply-To: <20151002124739.6a7f2813@kujata.lan>
References: <20151001194614.3ad0b18d@Host-002.homenet.telecomitalia.it>
 <20151002121117.2de5d425@noname>
 <20151002132035.5888ac97@Host-002.homenet.telecomitalia.it>
 <20151002124739.6a7f2813@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20151002150420.5957f75b@Host-002.homenet.telecomitalia.it>

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 12:47:39 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 13:20:35 +0200
> Luigi Votta <luigi.vtt at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> > I can attempt to packaging it on my machine and test if there would
> > be any conflicts. But for that I need some time. 
> 
> NEWSFLASH: that plugin will not be included in the next release!
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul

Ok.

So no need to test the relative translated msgid.     
Thank you

P.S. Maybe a notify to claws-mail translate m.l. would be
appreciated :-)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct  2 17:29:44 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 15:29:44 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3476] loading remote content causes claws to hang and
 consume 200% CPU
In-Reply-To: <bug-3476-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3476-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3476-595-9dJ8rxeHHv@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3476

--- Comment #3 from Khumba <claws-bugs-20218 at khumba.net> ---
Okay, bug confirmed on Gentoo (all the same versions as in your and my posts,
except LANG=en_CA.UTF-8 and kernel 4.0.5-gentoo).

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct  2 18:05:08 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 16:05:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3531] New: a/z hotkeys crash Claws immediately after
	startup
Message-ID: <bug-3531-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3531

            Bug ID: 3531
           Summary: a/z hotkeys crash Claws immediately after startup
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.12.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message View
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: claws-bugs-20218 at khumba.net

Right after opening Claws, pressing 'aa' or 'z' will cause Claws to crash. 
Pressing 'aa' gives the following:

> <press 'a'>
> 
> (claws-mail:11008): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_tree_model_get_iter: assertion 'path != NULL' failed
> 
> (claws-mail:11008): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_store_get_path: assertion 'iter->user_data != NULL' failed
> 
> (claws-mail:11008): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_tree_model_get_iter: assertion 'path != NULL' failed
> 
> (claws-mail:11008): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_store_iter_has_child: assertion 'VALID_ITER (iter, tree_model)' failed
> 
> (claws-mail:11008): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_store_iter_parent: assertion 'VALID_ITER (child, tree_store)' failed
> 
> (claws-mail:11008): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_store_iter_next: assertion 'iter->stamp == GTK_TREE_STORE (tree_model)->stamp' failed
> 
> (claws-mail:11008): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_store_get_path: assertion 'iter->user_data != NULL' failed
> 
> <press 'a' again>
> 
> (claws-mail:11008): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_tree_model_get_iter: assertion 'path != NULL' failed
> 
> (claws-mail:11008): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_store_get_path: assertion 'iter->user_data != NULL' failed
> 
> (claws-mail:11008): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_tree_model_get_iter: assertion 'path != NULL' failed
> **
> Gtk:ERROR:/var/tmp/portage/x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.28-r1/work/gtk+-2.24.28/gtk/gtktreestore.c:726:gtk_tree_store_iter_parent: assertion failed: (parent != NULL)
> Aborted

Pressing 'z' gives the following:

> (claws-mail:11599): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_tree_model_get_iter: assertion 'path != NULL' failed
> 
> (claws-mail:11599): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_store_get_path: assertion 'iter->stamp == tree_store->stamp' failed
> 
> (claws-mail:11599): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_tree_model_get_iter: assertion 'path != NULL' failed
> 
> (claws-mail:11599): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_store_iter_parent: assertion 'VALID_ITER (child, tree_store)' failed
> 
> (claws-mail:11599): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_tree_path_prev: assertion 'path != NULL' failed
> 
> (claws-mail:11599): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_tree_model_get_iter: assertion 'path != NULL' failed
> 
> (claws-mail:11599): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_store_iter_has_child: assertion 'VALID_ITER (iter, tree_model)' failed
> 
> (claws-mail:11599): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_store_iter_parent: assertion 'VALID_ITER (child, tree_store)' failed
> 
> (claws-mail:11599): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_store_iter_next: assertion 'iter->stamp == GTK_TREE_STORE (tree_model)->stamp' failed
> 
> (claws-mail:11599): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_tree_model_get_iter: assertion 'path != NULL' failed
> 
> (claws-mail:11599): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_store_get_value: assertion 'VALID_ITER (iter, tree_store)' failed
> 
> (claws-mail:11599): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.44.1/work/glib-2.44.1/gobject/gtype.c:4268: type id '0' is invalid
> 
> (claws-mail:11599): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: can't peek value table for type '<invalid>' which is not currently referenced
> Segmentation fault

Claws 3.12.0, Gentoo amd64.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct  2 18:08:22 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 16:08:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3476] loading remote content causes claws to hang and
 consume 200% CPU
In-Reply-To: <bug-3476-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3476-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3476-595-Edf88keTfK@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3476

--- Comment #4 from Khumba <claws-bugs-20218 at khumba.net> ---
When the crash occurs, Claws has two "pool" threads that are taking the 200%
CPU.

(gdb) i thr
  Id   Target Id         Frame
  18   Thread 0x7fffe7e49700 (LWP 4314) "gmain" 0x00007ffff3a965cd in poll ()
at ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S:81
  17   Thread 0x7fffe6646700 (LWP 4321) "gdbus" 0x00007ffff3a965cd in poll ()
at ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S:81
  16   Thread 0x7fffe7648700 (LWP 4389) "claws-mail" pthread_cond_wait () at
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:185
  15   Thread 0x7fffe6e47700 (LWP 4795) "claws-mail" pthread_cond_wait () at
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:185
  14   Thread 0x7fff8bcf2700 (LWP 4796) "claws-mail" pthread_cond_wait () at
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:185
  13   Thread 0x7fff8ae04700 (LWP 4799) "claws-mail" pthread_cond_wait () at
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:185
  12   Thread 0x7fff8a603700 (LWP 4800) "claws-mail" pthread_cond_wait () at
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:185
  11   Thread 0x7fff89e02700 (LWP 4801) "claws-mail" pthread_cond_wait () at
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:185
  10   Thread 0x7fff893fb700 (LWP 4814) "claws-mail" pthread_cond_wait () at
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:185
  9    Thread 0x7fff88bfa700 (LWP 4815) "claws-mail" pthread_cond_wait () at
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:185
  8    Thread 0x7fff83fff700 (LWP 4816) "claws-mail" pthread_cond_wait () at
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:185
  7    Thread 0x7fff837fe700 (LWP 4817) "claws-mail" pthread_cond_wait () at
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:185
  6    Thread 0x7fff82ffd700 (LWP 4818) "claws-mail" pthread_cond_wait () at
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:185
  5    Thread 0x7fff827fc700 (LWP 4819) "claws-mail" pthread_cond_wait () at
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:185
  4    Thread 0x7fff81ffb700 (LWP 4820) "claws-mail" pthread_cond_wait () at
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:185
  3    Thread 0x7fff63fff700 (LWP 4884) "pool" 0x00007fff801b186c in ?? () from
/usr/lib64/gio/modules/libgiognutls.so
  2    Thread 0x7fff80fd1700 (LWP 4821) "pool" 0x00007fff801b1864 in ?? () from
/usr/lib64/gio/modules/libgiognutls.so
* 1    Thread 0x7ffff7fab940 (LWP 4238) "claws-mail" 0x00007ffff3a965cd in poll
() at ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S:81
(gdb) bt 2
#0  0x00007ffff3a965cd in poll () at ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S:81
#1  0x00007ffff4890ea4 in g_main_context_poll (priority=2147483647, n_fds=7,
fds=0x4dd3ac0, timeout=99, context=0xa8eae0) at
/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.44.1/work/glib-2.44.1/glib/gmain.c:4103
(More stack frames follow...)
(gdb) bt 3
#0  0x00007ffff3a965cd in poll () at ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S:81
#1  0x00007ffff4890ea4 in g_main_context_poll (priority=2147483647, n_fds=7,
fds=0x4dd3ac0, timeout=99, context=0xa8eae0) at
/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.44.1/work/glib-2.44.1/glib/gmain.c:4103
#2  g_main_context_iterate (context=0xa8eae0, block=block at entry=1,
dispatch=dispatch at entry=1, self=<optimized out>) at
/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.44.1/work/glib-2.44.1/glib/gmain.c:3803
(More stack frames follow...)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct  2 18:17:08 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 16:17:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3476] loading remote content causes claws to hang and
 consume 200% CPU
In-Reply-To: <bug-3476-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3476-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3476-595-JYiSlzSq5t@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3476

--- Comment #5 from Khumba <claws-bugs-20218 at khumba.net> ---
Also happens with 3.11.1.  (Sorry for the mail spam.)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct  2 18:05:08 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 16:05:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3531] a/z hotkeys crash Claws immediately after startup
In-Reply-To: <bug-3531-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3531-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3531-595-Qpx7etCWzc@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3531

--- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2015-10-02 18:38:02.301004737 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=0f5ca573f2f5a875f0a590e9bab87224919dddf7
Merge: 676a8c6 d3d6ac6
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Fri Oct 2 18:38:01 2015 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=d3d6ac6eff909f8012b49cd8d6f42ee0df10cebd
Author: Paul <paul at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Fri Oct 2 17:37:51 2015 +0100

    fix bug 3531, 'a/z hotkeys crash Claws immediately after startup'

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct  2 18:39:13 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 16:39:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3531] a/z hotkeys crash Claws immediately after startup
In-Reply-To: <bug-3531-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3531-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3531-595-9IV1XBBXZc@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3531

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

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From berndth at gmx.de  Sat Oct  3 14:05:12 2015
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 14:05:12 +0200
Subject: [Users] Headers
In-Reply-To: <20150930092801.54df4399@hiker>
References: <20150930083800.4645e12d@aguacate2.fruta2.org>
 <20150930085150.01af6df5@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20150930092801.54df4399@hiker>
Message-ID: <20151003140512.09ebb812@wodan>

On Mi, 30.09.2015 09:28, Andrej Kacian wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 08:51:50 +0200
>Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl> wrote:
>> 
>> But all of the other headers (non X-...) should not be there since
>> they violate RFC2822. I've never seen them anywhere...  
>
>Correction - they should not be there once the message leaves Claws
>Mail. And indeed they are not, they are removed before that happens.

And even if they were, using self-defined header names without
prefixing with X- is not a violation of RFC2822.

Holger



From berndth at gmx.de  Sat Oct  3 14:17:04 2015
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 14:17:04 +0200
Subject: [Users] Deleting one long thread
In-Reply-To: <CAC9WiBgTg_7au37jb0tJTZYU4SJO-vyKk1BL3MjQ+j18wyUZaw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBgiNDM0noxY4Ei5-Yrozrc1xO2WUrtV64SbHge3vkHCog@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150930085550.566e2634@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <CAC9WiBhqZP5d20k+gaWj_kAcZd6jDKWaU_izWy0ghyLpOOPN4Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150930092401.2001a747@hiker>
 <CAC9WiBgTg_7au37jb0tJTZYU4SJO-vyKk1BL3MjQ+j18wyUZaw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20151003141704.1b66abfb@wodan>

On Mi, 30.09.2015 14:21, Francis Moreau wrote:

>I was just suggesting that the default behaviour should be changed
>because it currently doesnt make sense to me.
>
>And the only answers were: you can customize the keybinding (out of
>topic), you can patch claws (seriously!).
>
>But none has tried to come with a valid use case.

For me, it makes perfect sense because threading is based on the
concept of linking. Deleting an item causes the links to be cut.

This is different to the concept of containers, where the children are
deleted if you delete the container.

That's why it makes sense that deleting e.g. a folder in a file browser
also deletes the items contained in this folder, but deleting an email
message (even if it is part of a thread) does not delete other email
messages.

Holger


From colin at colino.net  Sat Oct  3 17:19:26 2015
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 17:19:26 +0200
Subject: [Users] Headers
In-Reply-To: <20150930083800.4645e12d@aguacate2.fruta2.org>
References: <20150930083800.4645e12d@aguacate2.fruta2.org>
Message-ID: <20151003171926.276207fe@mike>

On 30 September 2015 at 08h38, Felipe T. Dorado wrote:

Hi, 

> AF:
> NF:
> PS:
> SRH:
> SFN:
> DSR:
> MID:
> CFG:
> PT:
> S:
> RQ:
> SSV:
> NSV:
> SSH:
> R:
> MAID:
> X-Claws-Privacy-System:
> X-Claws-Sign:
> SCF:
> RMID:
> X-Claws-Auto-Wrapping:
> X-Claws-Auto-Indent:
> X-Claws-End-Special-Headers: 

These are Claws Mail metadata, used to store the various email edition
settings (account, wrapping, and more) as long as the email is in
Drafts or Queue folders.

They are left out of what is sent via SMTP.

Most of them don't start with X-Claws-* for compatibility reasons, to
avoid breaking the parsing of existing drafts/queued mails after an
upgrade. It would be possible to change these headers names without
breaking compatibility, but that would mean introducing transition
code. A lot of efforts for no real gain.

HTH,
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From edwardp at openmailbox.org  Sat Oct  3 18:36:14 2015
From: edwardp at openmailbox.org (edwardp at openmailbox.org)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 12:36:14 -0400
Subject: [Users] $PREFIX for Claws Mail themes
Message-ID: <20151003123614.3b7bb6ff@openmailbox.org>

I'd like to install the Claws Mail themes file on Linux (Fedora 22), but
this is the first I've seen a reference to $PREFIX, I'm just an end
user, not a programmer.  :)

Does $PREFIX represent a specific directory?

Thank you in advance.





From edwardp at openmailbox.org  Sat Oct  3 18:45:58 2015
From: edwardp at openmailbox.org (edwardp at openmailbox.org)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 12:45:58 -0400
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail themes directory
Message-ID: <20151003124558.4447af56@openmailbox.org>

(Looks like my original e-mail didn't make it to the list. My apologies
if it eventually makes it.)

I'd like to install the Claws Mail themes file on Linux (Fedora 22,
64-bit), but this is the first I've seen a reference to $PREFIX, I'm
just an end user, not a programmer.  :)

Does $PREFIX represent a specific directory?

Thank you in advance. 





From ricardo at mones.org  Sat Oct  3 18:55:38 2015
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 18:55:38 +0200
Subject: [Users] claws-mail-plugins-geolocation will not built
In-Reply-To: <20151002150420.5957f75b@Host-002.homenet.telecomitalia.it>
References: <20151001194614.3ad0b18d@Host-002.homenet.telecomitalia.it>
 <20151002121117.2de5d425@noname>
 <20151002132035.5888ac97@Host-002.homenet.telecomitalia.it>
 <20151002124739.6a7f2813@kujata.lan>
 <20151002150420.5957f75b@Host-002.homenet.telecomitalia.it>
Message-ID: <20151003185538.66307f3c@sumiciu>

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 15:04:20 +0200
Luigi Votta <luigi.vtt at gmail.com> wrote:

> P.S. Maybe a notify to claws-mail translate m.l. would be
> appreciated :-)

Why bother? One goodness of gettext is that once a translated string is
removed you don't need to translate it anymore :)
-- 
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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sat Oct  3 18:59:08 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 18:59:08 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail themes directory
In-Reply-To: <20151003124558.4447af56@openmailbox.org>
References: <20151003124558.4447af56@openmailbox.org>
Message-ID: <20151003185908.6ece6489@archlinux.localdomain>

On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 12:45:58 -0400, edwardp at openmailbox.org wrote:
>Does $PREFIX represent a specific directory?

It's the first part of the path.

"Alternately they can be installed by root by untarring the package
directly into $PREFIX/share/claws-mail/themes/ They will then be
available to every user." - http://www.claws-mail.org/themes.php

PREFIX=/usr
or
PREFIX=/usr/local

/usr usually is used for packages installed from the distro
repositories.

/usr/local often is used when building packages from upstream source
code.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Oct  3 19:33:09 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 18:33:09 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail themes directory
In-Reply-To: <20151003185908.6ece6489@archlinux.localdomain>
References: <20151003124558.4447af56@openmailbox.org>
 <20151003185908.6ece6489@archlinux.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20151003183309.6ff31b8a@kujata.lan>

On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 18:59:08 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 

> PREFIX=/usr
> or
> PREFIX=/usr/local
> 
> /usr usually is used for packages installed from the distro
> repositories.
> 
> /usr/local often is used when building packages from upstream source
> code.

or, if building yourself, the prefix can be whatever you want it to
be.

with regards

Paul


From edwardp at openmailbox.org  Sat Oct  3 20:42:02 2015
From: edwardp at openmailbox.org (edwardp at openmailbox.org)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 14:42:02 -0400
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail themes directory
In-Reply-To: <mailman.104.1443893590.25613.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
References: <mailman.104.1443893590.25613.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
Message-ID: <20151003144202.42556664@openmailbox.org>

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 19:33:10 +0200
users-request at lists.claws-mail.org wrote:


> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 18:59:08 +0200
> From: Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com>
> To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] Claws Mail themes directory
> Message-ID: <20151003185908.6ece6489 at archlinux.localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 12:45:58 -0400, edwardp at openmailbox.org wrote:
> >Does $PREFIX represent a specific directory?
> 
> It's the first part of the path.
> 
> "Alternately they can be installed by root by untarring the package
> directly into $PREFIX/share/claws-mail/themes/ They will then be
> available to every user." - http://www.claws-mail.org/themes.php
> 
> PREFIX=/usr
> or
> PREFIX=/usr/local
> 
> /usr usually is used for packages installed from the distro
> repositories.
> 
> /usr/local often is used when building packages from upstream source
> code.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 18:33:09 +0100
> From: Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>
> To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] Claws Mail themes directory
> Message-ID: <20151003183309.6ff31b8a at kujata.lan>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 18:59:08 +0200
> Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> > PREFIX=/usr
> > or
> > PREFIX=/usr/local
> > 
> > /usr usually is used for packages installed from the distro
> > repositories.
> > 
> > /usr/local often is used when building packages from upstream source
> > code.
> 
> or, if building yourself, the prefix can be whatever you want it to
> be.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul


Thank you both for the replies. I had a little trouble extracting the file as it told me I didn't have the permissions to extract it to /usr/share/claws-mail/themes/. I added the directory (as root) but had to copy the downloaded file from my home directory to it. Then it extracted.  :)



From ricardo at mones.org  Sat Oct  3 21:10:29 2015
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 21:10:29 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail themes directory
In-Reply-To: <20151003144202.42556664@openmailbox.org>
References: <mailman.104.1443893590.25613.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
 <20151003144202.42556664@openmailbox.org>
Message-ID: <20151003211029.4b1f0c88@sumiciu>

On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 14:42:02 -0400
<edwardp at openmailbox.org> wrote:

> I had a little trouble extracting the file as it told me I didn't
> have the permissions to extract it to /usr/share/claws-mail/themes/.
> I added the directory (as root) but had to copy the downloaded file
> from my home directory to it. Then it extracted.  :)

You don't need to modify system directories to install themes:
extracting them to your $HOME/.claws-mail/themes directory is enough
(you may need to create it if it doesn't exist).

regards,
-- 
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  ~
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From edwardp at openmailbox.org  Sun Oct  4 02:15:06 2015
From: edwardp at openmailbox.org (edwardp at openmailbox.org)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 20:15:06 -0400
Subject: [Users] Re;  Claws Mail themes directory
Message-ID: <20151003201506.1df1dce2@openmailbox.org>

On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 14:42:02 -0400
<edwardp at openmailbox.org> wrote:

> I had a little trouble extracting the file as it told me I didn't
> have the permissions to extract it to /usr/share/claws-mail/themes/.
> I added the directory (as root) but had to copy the downloaded file
> from my home directory to it. Then it extracted.  :)

You don't need to modify system directories to install themes:
extracting them to your $HOME/.claws-mail/themes directory is enough
(you may need to create it if it doesn't exist).

regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 


Confirming that $HOME/.claws-mail/themes works for the themes directory.

Thank you.



From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sun Oct  4 08:18:32 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 08:18:32 +0200
Subject: [Users] Re;  Claws Mail themes directory
In-Reply-To: <20151003201506.1df1dce2@openmailbox.org>
References: <20151003201506.1df1dce2@openmailbox.org>
Message-ID: <20151004081832.6ad7e32a@moonstudio>


>$HOME/.claws-mail/themes

JFTR $HOME usually is

~

aka

/home/your_user_directory

As the $PREFIX that not necessarily is /usr or /usr/local, $HOME not
necessarily is a directory in /home, but that are the most used default
places. However, the advantage of using the locations in the /usr path
over using the /home path is, that themes located in /usr are shared,
available for all users.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Oct  4 08:21:34 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2015 06:21:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3532] New: Race condition when receiving via IMAP &
 sending mail at the same time
Message-ID: <bug-3532-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3532

            Bug ID: 3532
           Summary: Race condition when receiving via IMAP & sending mail
                    at the same time
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.12.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: major
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders/IMAP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: mgorny at gentoo.org

I've seen this three times already, though it's not easy to reproduce. I have a
few IMAP accounts with many folders and periodic mail checks enabled. It
happens that when I edit a message in the foreground, claws starts checking
mail in the background and I click 'send'. Now, usually that works somehow.

However, there's some hidden ugly race condition that sometimes makes claws
confuse 'Queue' with another folder. Long story short, claws hangs for a while
(fetching mail bodies, I guess) and then suddenly 'Queue' contains 1000+ mails
that were really in another folder.

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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sun Oct  4 08:21:47 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 08:21:47 +0200
Subject: [Users] Re;  Claws Mail themes directory
In-Reply-To: <20151004081832.6ad7e32a@moonstudio>
References: <20151003201506.1df1dce2@openmailbox.org>
 <20151004081832.6ad7e32a@moonstudio>
Message-ID: <20151004082147.4a3e5b70@moonstudio>

On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 08:18:32 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>JFTR $HOME usually is
>
>~
>
>aka
>
>/home/your_user_directory

That should read:

JFTR $HOME is

~

aka, usually

/home/your_user_directory

since $HOME and ~ should point to the same directory, that not
necessarily is in /home or /root.


From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Sun Oct  4 15:32:04 2015
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 07:32:04 -0600
Subject: [Users] Claws completely frozen after the external editor exited
In-Reply-To: <20150930112952.6744c2e5@noname>
References: <CAC9WiBh9YwLpeOYL0nSouaP+dvvK4DsyXgavjwux5UxvraYOMA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAC9WiBgFm9foN6c9W+yAOmbnK+nR4W_fvuoNZF=uiLjg_vKvgg@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150929121057.05a29e8e@jhegaala.localdomain>
 <20150930112952.6744c2e5@noname>
Message-ID: <20151004073204.7dae88b5@jhegaala.localdomain>

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 11:29:52 +0200
Michael Schwendt <bugreporter at abwesend.de> wrote:

> > Once upon a time emacs was considered a memory hog ("Eight Megabytes
> > And Constantly Swapping!"). Emacsclient was the solution in those
> > days, and I think it is still the preferred one.  
> 
> Is memory shortage the reason why not to launch Emacs multiple times?

Yep. And shortage of other resources. Also, back when eight megabytes
was a lot of memory, it took a while to launch Emacs. I see a noticeable
delay launching Emacs on my FIT-PC Is (500 MHz, 512 MB main ram). I
don't use those as desktops, though.

> 
> > Launch an email into emacs with Ctl-Shift-x. Save from time to time
> > as usual in emacs: Ctl-s. Invoke mail mode as usual, M-x mail-mode.
> > Exit with Ctl-x #.
> > 
> > I don't know why you use urxvt (I assume it's a variant on rxvt),
> > but you shouldn't need to. Emacs over x should do just fine.
> >
> > That may also solve your crashing problem.  
> 
> Exiting the external Emacs solves the problem, too.

Ah, good to know.



> 
> Claws Mail is just nice and doesn't forcefully quit the external
> editor when exiting. You need to quit that editor yourself.

Good to know also.



> I run the
> old-school "emacs --no-splash %s" as external editor, btw.

Ah, that would work nicely. It does not launch an xterm, so it's more
elegant than M. Moreau's solution.

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From luigi.vtt at gmail.com  Sun Oct  4 16:24:34 2015
From: luigi.vtt at gmail.com (Luigi Votta)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 16:24:34 +0200
Subject: [Users] Where is filtering file?
Message-ID: <20151004162434.00b6f3e3@Host-002.homenet.telecomitalia.it>

Hello,
how is named the file containing the filter rules, and where is located?

I've searched in .claws-mail dir but haven't found it.

Luigi
 
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Oct  4 16:26:52 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 15:26:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] Where is filtering file?
In-Reply-To: <20151004162434.00b6f3e3@Host-002.homenet.telecomitalia.it>
References: <20151004162434.00b6f3e3@Host-002.homenet.telecomitalia.it>
Message-ID: <20151004152652.4bc5369d@kujata.lan>

On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 16:24:34 +0200
Luigi Votta <luigi.vtt at gmail.com> wrote: 

> how is named the file containing the filter rules, and where is
> located?
> 
> I've searched in .claws-mail dir but haven't found it.


see the FILES section of `man claws-mail` for the name and location of
this and other files.

with regards

Paul


From luigi.vtt at gmail.com  Sun Oct  4 16:38:31 2015
From: luigi.vtt at gmail.com (Luigi Votta)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 16:38:31 +0200
Subject: [Users] Where is filtering file?
In-Reply-To: <20151004152652.4bc5369d@kujata.lan>
References: <20151004162434.00b6f3e3@Host-002.homenet.telecomitalia.it>
 <20151004152652.4bc5369d@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20151004163831.5e51bb25@Host-002.homenet.telecomitalia.it>

On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 15:26:52 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 16:24:34 +0200
> Luigi Votta <luigi.vtt at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> > how is named the file containing the filter rules, and where is
> > located?
> > 
> > I've searched in .claws-mail dir but haven't found it.
> 
> 
> see the FILES section of `man claws-mail` for the name and location of
> this and other files.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul

I got  it:
$HOME/.claws-mail/matcherrc

As I have recreated a new profile I losted all filtering stuffs.

Thank you
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct  5 10:15:43 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 08:15:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3532] Race condition when receiving via IMAP & sending
 mail at the same time
In-Reply-To: <bug-3532-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3532-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3532-595-pJFLYwMxxA@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3532

--- Comment #1 from Francis <francis.moro at gmail.com> ---
The other race I noted is that the filtering rules are not run on received
messages.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct  5 10:31:42 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 08:31:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3532] Race condition when receiving via IMAP & sending
 mail at the same time
In-Reply-To: <bug-3532-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3532-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3532-595-NbwgxkNZzk@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3532

--- Comment #2 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
are messages really moved or is it just the cache file that gets messed up?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct  5 11:49:04 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 09:49:04 -0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3263] Wrong timezone while using date_fmt function
In-Reply-To: <bug-3263-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3263-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3263-595-oQq9eeKHi1@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3263

--- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2015-10-05 11:49:02.559703580 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=3209dc73505c23c9bea88c2c0b409d448e271dd7
Merge: f3c0ad2 e98adf3
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Mon Oct 5 11:49:02 2015 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=e98adf35bc6efaf304863700f420a47e173831dc
Author: Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
Date:   Mon Oct 5 00:19:30 2015 +0200

    Fix bug #3263 ‘Wrong timezone while using date_fmt function’

    In addition of %z for timezone offset, the strftime allows also a %Z
    specifier for timezone name and also some modifiers and field width.

    All these specifier are detected now and ignored, appending the timezone
    on the message. Otherwise they would be passed to the strftime call as
    is, which uses the local timezone, wrong most of the time.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct  5 11:51:19 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 09:51:19 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3263] Wrong timezone while using date_fmt function
In-Reply-To: <bug-3263-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3263-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3263-595-5y37z3LAo4@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3263

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct  5 12:06:42 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 10:06:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3533] New: DSN (delivery status notification)
Message-ID: <bug-3533-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3533

            Bug ID: 3533
           Summary: DSN (delivery status notification)
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.12.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: FreeBSD
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: SMTP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: gerard.seibert at gmail.com

Is it possible to add DSN (delivery status notification) to claws-mail? Some
MUAs have that ability built in, like MS Outlook; however, I can find no easy
way to do it in claws-mail.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct  5 12:07:37 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 10:07:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3488] make default theme PNG-based
In-Reply-To: <bug-3488-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3488-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3488-595-GCgM0kHlAA@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3488

--- Comment #2 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
When talking about this on irc seems to be some reluctance among other
developers to lose the pixmaps harcoded in the binary yet another alternative
is to embed the PNGs in the binary, like currently done with XPMs.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct  5 12:56:09 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 10:56:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3533] DSN (delivery status notification)
In-Reply-To: <bug-3533-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3533-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3533-595-sqDBsLR5AN@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3533

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
In the Compose window, set /Options/Request Return Receipt

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct  5 13:21:06 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 11:21:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3533] DSN (delivery status notification)
In-Reply-To: <bug-3533-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3533-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3533-595-uJmHlYJnOf@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3533

--- Comment #2 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> In the Compose window, set /Options/Request Return Receipt

I think OP could be talking about RFC 3461 and related ones (which is currently
not supported), not to RFC 3798 (Message Disposition Notification) which is the
one of the return receipt feature. But I may be wrong, so I'll let him reopen
if that's the case.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct  5 14:30:09 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 12:30:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3533] DSN (delivery status notification)
In-Reply-To: <bug-3533-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3533-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3533-595-Qbd2veaB8Z@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3533

Gerard Seibert <gerard.seibert at gmail.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|RESOLVED                    |REOPENED
         Resolution|INVALID                     |---

--- Comment #3 from Gerard Seibert <gerard.seibert at gmail.com> ---
Yes, I am referring to RFC 3461. I am sorry, I probably should have mentioned
that in my original post. This feature is supported by several MUAs. It should
be fairly simple to implement since it only requires a simple addition to the
message headers.

If there is no interest in adding this feature, feel free to close this report.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct  5 14:38:48 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 12:38:48 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3533] DSN (delivery status notification)
In-Reply-To: <bug-3533-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3533-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3533-595-lnlEB84GoQ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3533

--- Comment #4 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> It should be fairly simple to implement since it only requires a
> simple addition to the message headers.

In that case, please submit a patch.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct  5 15:26:27 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 13:26:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3532] Race condition when receiving via IMAP & sending
 mail at the same time
In-Reply-To: <bug-3532-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3532-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3532-595-aFaWyH8sFy@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3532

--- Comment #3 from Michał Górny <mgorny at gentoo.org> ---
Just the cache.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct  6 08:29:34 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2015 06:29:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3532] cache file gets corrupted when receiving via
 IMAP & sending mail at the same time
In-Reply-To: <bug-3532-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3532-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3532-595-Yg3hsze7RK@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3532

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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            Summary|Race condition when         |cache file gets corrupted
                   |receiving via IMAP &        |when receiving via IMAP &
                   |sending mail at the same    |sending mail at the same
                   |time                        |time
           Severity|major                       |normal

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct  6 08:34:13 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2015 06:34:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3472] 8500 mails in inbox
In-Reply-To: <bug-3472-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3472-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3472-595-8DDkmuZMNp@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3472

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Oct  7 22:12:16 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2015 20:12:16 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3293] Sometimes imapcache produces wrong email contents
In-Reply-To: <bug-3293-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3293-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3293-595-aOttbvNdYR@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3293

--- Comment #12 from linux+clawsbugtracker at jcf.pm ---
Still happens with 3.12.0

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct  8 09:07:48 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2015 07:07:48 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3293] Sometimes imapcache produces wrong email contents
In-Reply-To: <bug-3293-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3293-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3293-595-ChTEa22rze@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3293

Lars Wendler <polynomial-c at gentoo.org> changed:

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                 CC|                            |polynomial-c at gentoo.org

--- Comment #13 from Lars Wendler <polynomial-c at gentoo.org> ---
I have the same problem although not with an imap folder but with an mbox
folder where a rule is moving spam mails in.
This makes it quite hard to find false positive spam mails.

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From francis.moro at gmail.com  Thu Oct  8 09:17:12 2015
From: francis.moro at gmail.com (Francis Moreau)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 09:17:12 +0200
Subject: [Users] warn the user if application fails to open an attachment
Message-ID: <CAC9WiBgSOai4E0uG2QHHOHgmUTt7g6vGHJCEQn_jTA0T2D=7kQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

It would be nice to make CM emit a warning if the application it
starts to open an attachment  returns an error.

Thanks.
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From rhutter at posteo.de  Thu Oct  8 11:00:21 2015
From: rhutter at posteo.de (Ralf Hutter)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 11:00:21 +0200
Subject: [Users] Windows Live Mail displays my email content as attachment
Message-ID: <20151008110021.41a0f224@Trimini>

Hello everybody,
for a few days now i am being told that emails sent by me arrive
completely empty with the text attached in a txt-file, next to the
signature in the asc-file.
The people who tell me this use Windows Live Mail, whereas at least two
who use Thunderbird see it displayed normally. On a mobile phone (don't
know what system) of a person that uses Live Mail on the computer it
also worked.
Any explanations?
Ralf
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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Thu Oct  8 12:53:58 2015
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 11:53:58 +0100
Subject: [Users] Windows Live Mail displays my email content as
 attachment
In-Reply-To: <20151008110021.41a0f224@Trimini>
References: <20151008110021.41a0f224@Trimini>
Message-ID: <20151008115358.63c688f6@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 11:00:21 +0200
Ralf Hutter <rhutter at posteo.de> wrote:

Hello Ralf,

>Any explanations?

This _sounds_ like the issue Microsoft had in Outlook (or maybe Outlook
Express) whereby anything sent with a PGP signature was rendered as an
attachment.  Even the main message body.  Maybe WLM suffers the same
issue.

If I'm right, you can send messages with an inline signature.  That
should display correctly.  At least, it did in O(E).  It's one of
the reasons some (amny?) people use inline signing, even to this
day.  OTOH, you may get asked "What's all that stuff at the end of your
email?"

Alternatively, you can send messages without signing.

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From abrolag at users.sourceforge.net  Thu Oct  8 17:48:29 2015
From: abrolag at users.sourceforge.net (Abrolag)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 16:48:29 +0100
Subject: [Users] Folder marks
Message-ID: <20151008164829.59b792e9@debian>

I have 35 mail folders. Two of them have a '!' after the number of unread
messages. What does this mean?

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From list at eworm.de  Thu Oct  8 17:58:26 2015
From: list at eworm.de (Christian Hesse)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 17:58:26 +0200
Subject: [Users] Folder marks
In-Reply-To: <20151008164829.59b792e9@debian>
References: <20151008164829.59b792e9@debian>
Message-ID: <20151008175826.662d01ec@leda.localdomain>

Abrolag <abrolag at users.sourceforge.net> on Thu, 2015/10/08 16:48:
> I have 35 mail folders. Two of them have a '!' after the number of unread
> messages. What does this mean?

You have replies to messages that are marked.
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From abrolag at users.sourceforge.net  Thu Oct  8 18:31:09 2015
From: abrolag at users.sourceforge.net (Abrolag)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 17:31:09 +0100
Subject: [Users] Folder marks
In-Reply-To: <20151008175826.662d01ec@leda.localdomain>
References: <20151008164829.59b792e9@debian>
 <20151008175826.662d01ec@leda.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20151008173109.0e39250b@debian>

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 17:58:26 +0200
Christian Hesse <list at eworm.de> wrote:

> Abrolag <abrolag at users.sourceforge.net> on Thu, 2015/10/08 16:48:
> > I have 35 mail folders. Two of them have a '!' after the number of unread
> > messages. What does this mean?
> 
> You have replies to messages that are marked.

Ah! Interesting. Thanks :)

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct  8 18:34:13 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 17:34:13 +0100
Subject: [Users] Folder marks
In-Reply-To: <20151008175826.662d01ec@leda.localdomain>
References: <20151008164829.59b792e9@debian>
 <20151008175826.662d01ec@leda.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20151008173413.60fda01b@kujata.lan>

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 17:58:26 +0200
Christian Hesse <list at eworm.de> wrote: 

> You have replies to messages that are marked.

Small clarification:

You have UNREAD replies to messages that are marked.

with regards

Paul


From linux at slavino.sk  Thu Oct  8 18:40:54 2015
From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 18:40:54 +0200
Subject: [Users] Windows Live Mail displays my email content as
 attachment
In-Reply-To: <20151008110021.41a0f224@Trimini>
References: <20151008110021.41a0f224@Trimini>
Message-ID: <20151008184054.00b80db5@bonifac>

Ahoj,

Dňa Thu, 8 Oct 2015 11:00:21 +0200 Ralf Hutter <rhutter at posteo.de>
napísal:

> Hello everybody,
> for a few days now i am being told that emails sent by me arrive
> completely empty with the text attached in a txt-file, next to the
> signature in the asc-file.
> The people who tell me this use Windows Live Mail, whereas at least
> two who use Thunderbird see it displayed normally. On a mobile phone
> (don't know what system) of a person that uses Live Mail on the
> computer it also worked.
> Any explanations?
> Ralf

I encounter this with the ISO-8859-2 encoded messages - which is not
recognized by this "awesome" M$ application. After using the UTF-8, the
particular user stop the complain.

BTW, the message was signed too (as mentioned by the Brad), but it was
signed in both encodings...

regards

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From John at wexfordpress.com  Fri Oct  9 16:21:25 2015
From: John at wexfordpress.com (John Culleton)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 10:21:25 -0400
Subject: [Users] adjusting size of Claws Mail window
Message-ID: <20151009102125.2bead9b9@localb.wexfordpress.net>

I use Claws Mail on XFCE on Slackware Linux.
Recently the Claws Mail window reaches out to the
edges of the firtual screen. I cannot move or
reduce the CM window. All I can do is shut it
down. 

I use xrandr to render the virtual screen size.
I tried several different settings but all work
the same as far as CM occupying the full screen.
There are no window manipulation icons in the
upper right corner of the CM window. 

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From linux at slavino.sk  Fri Oct  9 17:03:45 2015
From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 17:03:45 +0200
Subject: [Users] adjusting size of Claws Mail window
In-Reply-To: <20151009102125.2bead9b9@localb.wexfordpress.net>
References: <20151009102125.2bead9b9@localb.wexfordpress.net>
Message-ID: <20151009170345.76bcc1db@bonifac>

Ahoj,

Dňa Fri, 9 Oct 2015 10:21:25 -0400 John Culleton
<John at wexfordpress.com> napísal:

> I use Claws Mail on XFCE on Slackware Linux.
> Recently the Claws Mail window reaches out to the
> edges of the firtual screen. I cannot move or

Yes, this sometime happens :-)

> reduce the CM window. All I can do is shut it
> down. 

Yes, it is solution, but IMO bad. You have more options to solve it:

a) under XFCE is shortcut to drag window by any place with default
   (AFAIK - i don't use the default one) Left Alt + Left Mouse
b) you can use the wmctrl with the -e option to define new window
   position and size (get windows list by the -l option)
c) you can close CM and tweak the values under ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc

mainwin_x=1276
mainwin_y=0
mainwin_width=1831
mainwin_height=1007

d) etc ;-)

> I use xrandr to render the virtual screen size.
> I tried several different settings but all work
> the same as far as CM occupying the full screen.
> There are no window manipulation icons in the
> upper right corner of the CM window. 

F11?

Be sure to properly close CM at end of session, i have issues with this
and the CM is killed and then no new values are written into rc file.

regards

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From andrej at kacian.sk  Fri Oct  9 17:29:54 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 17:29:54 +0200
Subject: [Users] adjusting size of Claws Mail window
In-Reply-To: <20151009170345.76bcc1db@bonifac>
References: <20151009102125.2bead9b9@localb.wexfordpress.net>
 <20151009170345.76bcc1db@bonifac>
Message-ID: <20151009172954.649d8b88@penny>

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Hash: SHA256

On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 17:03:45 +0200
Slavko <linux at slavino.sk> wrote:

> Be sure to properly close CM at end of session, i have issues with this
> and the CM is killed and then no new values are written into rc file.

FWIW, this will change in upcoming release, where main preferences will
get saved as soon as you click OK or Apply in the preferences dialog.

Regards,
- -- 
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From pf at pfortin.com  Sat Oct 10 05:45:26 2015
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 23:45:26 -0400
Subject: [Users] adjusting size of Claws Mail window
In-Reply-To: <20151009172954.649d8b88@penny>
References: <20151009102125.2bead9b9@localb.wexfordpress.net>
 <20151009170345.76bcc1db@bonifac> <20151009172954.649d8b88@penny>
Message-ID: <20151009234526.7b838ae4@pfortin.com>

On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 17:29:54 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote:

>FWIW, this will change in upcoming release, where main preferences will
>get saved as soon as you click OK or Apply in the preferences dialog.

Happy dance time!!! :) :)


From david.burleigh at gmx.com  Sat Oct 10 14:40:33 2015
From: david.burleigh at gmx.com (David Burleigh)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 08:40:33 -0400
Subject: [Users] Plugins for 3.12
Message-ID: <20151010084033.78ab8afa@dz>

I built Claws 3.12 under Linux Mint 17.2 (64-bit), but all the
plugins are not available for this version, such as the pdf viewer, etc.
Where can I find these?


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Oct 10 15:09:21 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 13:09:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3293] Sometimes imapcache produces wrong email contents
In-Reply-To: <bug-3293-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3293-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3293-595-Iu7iwI7WaW@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3293

--- Comment #14 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
I think the problem might be caused by our using chdir() a lot, which could be
a problem with multiple threads.

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Oct 10 15:13:56 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 14:13:56 +0100
Subject: [Users] Plugins for 3.12
In-Reply-To: <20151010084033.78ab8afa@dz>
References: <20151010084033.78ab8afa@dz>
Message-ID: <20151010141356.1215a87e@kujata.lan>

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 08:40:33 -0400
David Burleigh <david.burleigh at gmx.com> wrote: 

> I built Claws 3.12 under Linux Mint 17.2 (64-bit), but all the
> plugins are not available for this version, such as the pdf viewer,
> etc. Where can I find these?

You mean you built yourself from source? The output of ./configure
will have told you which plugins were going to be built. Once you've
installed it, click the Load... button in the Plugins windows will
automatically open in the right place.

with regards

Paul


From david.burleigh at gmx.com  Sat Oct 10 15:17:19 2015
From: david.burleigh at gmx.com (David Burleigh)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 09:17:19 -0400
Subject: [Users] Plugins for 3.12
In-Reply-To: <20151010141356.1215a87e@kujata.lan>
References: <20151010084033.78ab8afa@dz> <20151010141356.1215a87e@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20151010091719.20b681fb@dz>

Yes, I built it myself from source, but I didn't look carefully at
the ./configure output. Claws runs fine, and a handful of plugins are
available, but I really miss the pdf and html viewer plugins, which do
not seem to be available to load.

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 14:13:56 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 08:40:33 -0400
> David Burleigh <david.burleigh at gmx.com> wrote: 
> 
> > I built Claws 3.12 under Linux Mint 17.2 (64-bit), but all the
> > plugins are not available for this version, such as the pdf viewer,
> > etc. Where can I find these?
> 
> You mean you built yourself from source? The output of ./configure
> will have told you which plugins were going to be built. Once you've
> installed it, click the Load... button in the Plugins windows will
> automatically open in the right place.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
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> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Oct 10 15:26:30 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 14:26:30 +0100
Subject: [Users] Plugins for 3.12
In-Reply-To: <20151010091719.20b681fb@dz>
References: <20151010084033.78ab8afa@dz> <20151010141356.1215a87e@kujata.lan>
 <20151010091719.20b681fb@dz>
Message-ID: <20151010142630.19a281eb@kujata.lan>

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 09:17:19 -0400
David Burleigh <david.burleigh at gmx.com> wrote: 

> Yes, I built it myself from source, but I didn't look carefully at
> the ./configure output. Claws runs fine, and a handful of plugins
> are available, but I really miss the pdf and html viewer plugins,
> which do not seem to be available to load.

You're missing dependencies.
Poppler for the PDF plugin.
WebKit for the Fancy plugin.

with regards

Paul


From david.burleigh at gmx.com  Sat Oct 10 16:00:40 2015
From: david.burleigh at gmx.com (David Burleigh)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 10:00:40 -0400
Subject: [Users] Plugins for 3.12
In-Reply-To: <20151010142630.19a281eb@kujata.lan>
References: <20151010084033.78ab8afa@dz> <20151010141356.1215a87e@kujata.lan>
 <20151010091719.20b681fb@dz> <20151010142630.19a281eb@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20151010100040.21f626bc@dz>

Thanks, that did it.

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 14:26:30 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 09:17:19 -0400
> David Burleigh <david.burleigh at gmx.com> wrote: 
> 
> > Yes, I built it myself from source, but I didn't look carefully at
> > the ./configure output. Claws runs fine, and a handful of plugins
> > are available, but I really miss the pdf and html viewer plugins,
> > which do not seem to be available to load.
> 
> You're missing dependencies.
> Poppler for the PDF plugin.
> WebKit for the Fancy plugin.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users


From david.burleigh at gmx.com  Sat Oct 10 19:28:07 2015
From: david.burleigh at gmx.com (David Burleigh)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 13:28:07 -0400
Subject: [Users] Plugins for 3.12
In-Reply-To: <20151010142630.19a281eb@kujata.lan>
References: <20151010084033.78ab8afa@dz> <20151010141356.1215a87e@kujata.lan>
 <20151010091719.20b681fb@dz> <20151010142630.19a281eb@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20151010132807.5063fa32@dz>

All is well for the pdf and html viewers, but it keeps complaining
about libgdata, libchamplain, and python, even though I have installed
every so-named .dev package I can find.

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 14:26:30 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 09:17:19 -0400
> David Burleigh <david.burleigh at gmx.com> wrote: 
> 
> > Yes, I built it myself from source, but I didn't look carefully at
> > the ./configure output. Claws runs fine, and a handful of plugins
> > are available, but I really miss the pdf and html viewer plugins,
> > which do not seem to be available to load.
> 
> You're missing dependencies.
> Poppler for the PDF plugin.
> WebKit for the Fancy plugin.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Oct 11 10:42:11 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 09:42:11 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.13.0 unleashed!!
Message-ID: <20151011094211.6b6e5bbb@kujata.lan>

11th October 2015                                   Claws Mail 3.13.0

		    CLAWS MAIL  RELEASE NOTES
                    http://www.claws-mail.org

Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast 
email client.

New in this release:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

* Preferences are now saved to disk immediately on pressing OK or
  Apply.

* New preferences have been added for default sorting of the message
  lists. They are found in the 'Message list' frame of the Display/
  Summaries page of the general preferences. These options only apply
  to newly created folders.

* The menu item 'Delete thread' has been moved to the Message menu.
  Previously clicking it would not delete the thread, but just move
  it to the Trash folder. Now it will delete the thread.
  An additional menu item has been added, 'Move thread to trash',
  which implements the original behaviour.

* Compose window: By default it is no longer possible to add user-
  defined headers, with only those pre-defined in the drop down menus
  being possible. To restore the old behaviour, a new hidden
  preference has been added: 'type_any_header', setting this to 1
  restores the old behaviour.

* Automatic account selection is now also applied when you reply to
  one of your own messages, e.g. from the Sent folder.

* Folder list: The Left and Right cursor keys now collapse or expand
  the currently selected folder tree item. The Left cursor key also
  moves the selection to parent folder, if current folder is within
  a collapsed tree.

* Folder list: The Home and End keys now move the selection to the
  first folder and last folder in the tree.

* Account Auto-configuration: when errors occur, a more detailed
  error message is shown.

* GnuPG plugins: An option has been added to specify the location of
  the GnuPG executable.

* GnuPG plugins: A new hidden preference has been added which limits
  the number of results returned when using your keyring for address
  auto-completion: 'autocompletion_limit'. The default value is 0,
  which means there is no limit, any other number will limit the
  results to that number.

* Python plugin: Folder has been added to MessageInfo objects.

* The GeoLocation plugin is no longer included.

* The user manual has been updated.

* The man page has been updated.

* Updated translations: Brazilian Portuguese, British English, Czech,
  Dutch, Finnish, German, Hebrew, Hungarian, Norwegian Bokmål,
  Slovak, Spanish, Swedish.

* New translations: Italian, Traditional Chinese.

* Removed translations:  Indonesian, Polish.

* Bug fixes:
	o bug 2115, 'Drag n' Drop of files with special characters
		     crashes CM'
	o bug 3209, 'autoconfig does not use full email address as
		     username'
	o bug 3253, 'all addresses of getaddrinfo() result should be
		     tried'
	o bug 3263, 'Wrong timezone while using date_fmt function'
	o bug 3296, 'Crash on double notification popup'
	o bug 3352, 'found_in_addressbook matches entries from GPG
		     keyring'
	o bug 3454, 'Attachments containing certain special
		     characters in filename are not opened'
	o bug 3473, 'base64 regression with old glib2 (before
		     2.26.0)'
	o bug 3475, 'Attachment dragged to email must be dropped to
		     attachment tab only - reggresion'
	o bug 3483, 'When replying to a *de*crypted message, it is
		     contained *encrypted* in reply'
	o bug 3507, 'build fails w/o GnuTLS'
	o bug 3516, 'vCard icon misplaced'
	o bug 3524, 'vCard does not decode all quoted-printable
		     values'
	o bug 3531, 'a/z hotkeys crash Claws immediately after
	             startup'
	o make 'date' (not thread date) the default sort when
	  clicking column header to switch to date sort.
	o Several memory leaks in RSSyl.
	o IPv6 now works on Windows, for connections not handled by
	  libetpan.
	o GPG preferences initialization.
	o Possible crash when gpg is upgraded to gpg-v21
	o Save temporary file in mime temporary directory when using
	  right-click/Open image instead of saving in current working
	  directory.
	o Crash in address completion when matching group name.
	o Correct handling of RFC3339 timestamp format with second
	  fraction.
	o Building on GLib older than 2.25.

For further details of the numbered bugs and RFEs listed above
consult http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Oct 11 12:14:44 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 10:14:44 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3534] New: decrypted messages' text doesn't get quoted
Message-ID: <bug-3534-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3534

            Bug ID: 3534
           Summary: decrypted messages' text doesn't get quoted
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.12.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Privacy
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: ber6yppon7 at l4tzd.anonbox.net

When replying to encrypted messages, the decrypted text does not get quoted,
unless the decrypted text is selected in the message viewing pane before
issuing 'reply'.

With inline PGP, the encrypted text is quoted; with PGP/mime, the quoted body
is empty.

If the text is decrypted to be read, the clear text should be quoted at least
if the message composed in reply is set to be encrypted as well.

---

Version: 3.12.0-2 Arch Linux Repositories, x86_64; Build Date: Thu 17 Sep 2015
20:07:21 CEST

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Oct 11 12:56:29 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 10:56:29 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3534] decrypted messages' text doesn't get quoted
In-Reply-To: <bug-3534-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3534-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3534-595-bAifGDfGJx@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3534

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 3483 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Oct 11 12:56:29 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 10:56:29 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3483] When replying to a *de*crypted message,
 it is contained *encrypted* in reply
In-Reply-To: <bug-3483-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3483-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3483-595-PRiNt5WvTH@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3483

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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                 CC|                            |ber6yppon7 at l4tzd.anonbox.ne
                   |                            |t

--- Comment #9 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
*** Bug 3534 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From rezso at rezso.net  Sun Oct 11 13:19:03 2015
From: rezso at rezso.net (=?UTF-8?B?UMOhZGVyIFJlenPFkQ==?=)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 13:19:03 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.13.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20151011094211.6b6e5bbb@kujata.lan>
References: <20151011094211.6b6e5bbb@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20151011131903.5382960f@papi.home>

Hi,


just a note:

> * The GeoLocation plugin is no longer included.

but configure checks the libchamplain.


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From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Oct 11 17:20:44 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 17:20:44 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.13.0 for Windows unleashed!!
Message-ID: <20151011172044.1956cec0@penny>

11th October 2015                                      Claws Mail 3.13.0

              CLAWS MAIL FOR WINDOWS RELEASE NOTES
                http://www.claws-mail.org/win32

Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast
email client.

New in this release:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
* We no longer ship GnuPG, GPA and related utilities. If you want to
  continue using these, you should install the Gpg4win bundle from
  http://www.gpg4win.org

* The default install path has changed from "%ProgramFiles%\GNU\Claws
  Mail" to just "%ProgramFiles%\Claws Mail"

* Connections over IPv6 now work. Because this requires functionality
  that is not present in Windows XP and earlier, this release might not
  work on these older versions of Windows. If there is demand, we may
  provide a separate Claws Mail package without IPv6 for these versions.

* The source package is no longer provided as an installable .exe, but
  rather as a bzip2-compressed tarball. It also does not include source
  code for all the components. Instead, its README file points to a way
  to obtain these.

* Bug fixes:
  o 3475 - Attachment dragged to email must be dropped to attachment
           tab only - reggresion
  o 3478 - Printing html rendered message makes printout use extra
           super small font
  o 3495 - IPv6 specific name resolution Error
  o 3496 - Crash on double notification popup

* Some supporting libraries have been updated to more recent versions:
  o GnuTLS   from 3.4.2  to 3.4.5
  o curl     from 7.42.1 to 7.45.0
  o libxml2  from 2.9.1  to 2.9.2

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From list at eworm.de  Sun Oct 11 18:40:25 2015
From: list at eworm.de (Christian Hesse)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 18:40:25 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.13.0 for Windows unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20151011172044.1956cec0@penny>
References: <20151011172044.1956cec0@penny>
Message-ID: <20151011184025.12a1e453@leda.localdomain>

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> on Sun, 2015/10/11 17:20:
> 11th October 2015                                      Claws Mail 3.13.0
> 
>               CLAWS MAIL FOR WINDOWS RELEASE NOTES
>                 http://www.claws-mail.org/win32

Looks like this has some issues:

* The installer is missing some text. I do see checkboxes, but no text. See
  attached image for example...

* This installs to a new path, which is ok. The old installation is not
  removed, though... I was wondering which my CM told me it is still version
  3.12.0 - but it was the old installation.
  Or did I miss any details on installation caused by the missing text?
-- 
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"CX:;",b;for(a/*    Chris           get my mail address:    */=0;b=c[a++];)
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From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Sun Oct 11 21:08:16 2015
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 21:08:16 +0200
Subject: [Users] To-arrow patch
Message-ID: <20151011210816.38e5a711@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

Hi,

The attached patch adds a [Common] setting "to_arrow" where the user can
choose what arrow prefix she wants for mail that is sent by herself. This
is used in the "From" column of the summary view. Currently a "-->" is
shown before the name of the recipient. This patch makes it easy to change
this to e.g. a more modern "➜" glyph.

Is this feature worthy for inclusion?

-- Johan



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From talk at advokati.biz  Sun Oct 11 23:17:51 2015
From: talk at advokati.biz (Daniel =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Hrb=E1=E8?=)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 23:17:51 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.13.0 for Windows unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20151011184025.12a1e453@leda.localdomain>
References: <20151011172044.1956cec0@penny>
 <20151011184025.12a1e453@leda.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20151011231751.00000360@advokati.biz>


Dne Sun, 11 Oct 2015 18:40:25 +0200 Christian Hesse list at eworm.de
napsal(a) zprávu Re: [Users] Claws Mail 3.13.0 for Windows unleashed!!:

> Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> on Sun, 2015/10/11 17:20:
> > 11th October 2015                                      Claws Mail
> > 3.13.0
> > 
> >               CLAWS MAIL FOR WINDOWS RELEASE NOTES
> >                 http://www.claws-mail.org/win32
> 
> Looks like this has some issues:
> 
> * The installer is missing some text. I do see checkboxes, but no
> text. See attached image for example...
> 
> * This installs to a new path, which is ok. The old installation is
> not removed, though... I was wondering which my CM told me it is
> still version 3.12.0 - but it was the old installation.
>   Or did I miss any details on installation caused by the missing
> text?

Hi,

+1 for this issue. I see no text too on Win10 x64.

Daniel


From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Oct 11 23:28:13 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 23:28:13 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.13.0 for Windows unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20151011231751.00000360@advokati.biz>
References: <20151011172044.1956cec0@penny>
 <20151011184025.12a1e453@leda.localdomain>
 <20151011231751.00000360@advokati.biz>
Message-ID: <20151011232813.7ed744ae@penny>

On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 23:17:51 +0200
Daniel Hrbáč <talk at advokati.biz> wrote:

> > * The installer is missing some text. I do see checkboxes, but no
> > text. See attached image for example...
> > 
> > * This installs to a new path, which is ok. The old installation is
> > not removed, though... I was wondering which my CM told me it is
> > still version 3.12.0 - but it was the old installation.
> >   Or did I miss any details on installation caused by the missing
> > text?  
> 
> Hi,
> 
> +1 for this issue. I see no text too on Win10 x64.

Do you have system language set to something other than English?

-- 
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From talk at advokati.biz  Sun Oct 11 23:34:30 2015
From: talk at advokati.biz (Daniel =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Hrb=E1=E8?=)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 23:34:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.13.0 for Windows unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20151011232813.7ed744ae@penny>
References: <20151011172044.1956cec0@penny>
 <20151011184025.12a1e453@leda.localdomain>
 <20151011231751.00000360@advokati.biz>
 <20151011232813.7ed744ae@penny>
Message-ID: <20151011233430.00002476@advokati.biz>

Dne Sun, 11 Oct 2015 23:28:13 +0200 Andrej Kacian andrej at kacian.sk
napsal(a) zprávu Re: [Users] Claws Mail 3.13.0 for Windows unleashed!!:

> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 23:17:51 +0200
> Daniel Hrbáč <talk at advokati.biz> wrote:
> 
> > > * The installer is missing some text. I do see checkboxes, but no
> > > text. See attached image for example...
> > > 
> > > * This installs to a new path, which is ok. The old installation
> > > is not removed, though... I was wondering which my CM told me it
> > > is still version 3.12.0 - but it was the old installation.
> > >   Or did I miss any details on installation caused by the missing
> > > text?  
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > +1 for this issue. I see no text too on Win10 x64.
> 
> Do you have system language set to something other than English?
> 

Yes, it is set to Czech.

Daniel


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Oct 11 23:59:13 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 21:59:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3454] Attachments containing certain special
 characters in filename are not opened
In-Reply-To: <bug-3454-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3454-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3454-595-yB8osRjJ5F@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3454

daniel <daniel.hrbac at yahoo.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|RESOLVED                    |REOPENED
            Version|3.12.0                      |3.13.0
         Resolution|FIXED                       |---

--- Comment #4 from daniel <daniel.hrbac at yahoo.com> ---
With version 3.13. problem remains. In your last comment You said files will
special characters can be saved. That is true. But they cannot be opened.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 12 00:00:04 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 22:00:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3454] Attachments containing certain special
 characters in filename are not opened
In-Reply-To: <bug-3454-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3454-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3454-595-QrjEJg1Oal@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3454

daniel <daniel.hrbac at yahoo.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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                 OS|Windows 7                   |Windows 8

--- Comment #5 from daniel <daniel.hrbac at yahoo.com> ---
I wanted to change platform to win10, but there is no such option. :-)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 12 00:01:34 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 22:01:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3452] Ability to register as default email program
In-Reply-To: <bug-3452-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3452-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3452-595-kyRF5UnoU7@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3452

--- Comment #12 from daniel <daniel.hrbac at yahoo.com> ---
Andrej, could this issue be left opened?

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From edwardp at openmailbox.org  Mon Oct 12 01:00:06 2015
From: edwardp at openmailbox.org (edwardp at openmailbox.org)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 19:00:06 -0400
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.13 - Windows install issue
Message-ID: <561AE9F6.9000401@openmailbox.org>

There seems to be a problem with the installer for the Windows version 
of Claws Mail.

When I ran the installer, a window eventually appeared, informing me 
that "A version of Claws Mail is already installed on this system. There 
will be no problem and thus overwriting this Version. Do you want to 
continue installing Claws Mail?"

At this time, Claws Mail is /not/ installed on this PC. It had been in 
the past (2014), but not since then.






From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Mon Oct 12 01:28:14 2015
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 00:28:14 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.13 - Windows install issue
In-Reply-To: <561AE9F6.9000401@openmailbox.org>
References: <561AE9F6.9000401@openmailbox.org>
Message-ID: <20151012002814.2ac924e5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>

On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 19:00:06 -0400
edwardp at openmailbox.org wrote:

> At this time, Claws Mail is /not/ installed on this PC. It had been in 
> the past (2014), but not since then.

Probably there are some left over registry entries, it should be
possible to find them using regedit and then remove them if it's
causing a problem.

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                "I am not young enough to know everything"
                                                          Oscar Wilde


From edwardp at openmailbox.org  Mon Oct 12 02:22:47 2015
From: edwardp at openmailbox.org (edwardp at openmailbox.org)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 20:22:47 -0400
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.13 - Windows install issue
In-Reply-To: <20151012002814.2ac924e5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <561AE9F6.9000401@openmailbox.org>
 <20151012002814.2ac924e5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <561AFD57.2030103@openmailbox.org>

Brian Morrison wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 19:00:06 -0400
> edwardp at openmailbox.org wrote:
>
>> At this time, Claws Mail is /not/ installed on this PC. It had been in
>> the past (2014), but not since then.
> Probably there are some left over registry entries, it should be
> possible to find them using regedit and then remove them if it's
> causing a problem.
>

Although I have not checked the registry, would the problem then be with 
the installer, in that it is not removing everything when Claws is/was 
uninstalled? The version is Windows 7 Home Premium, 64-Bit.




From h.m.brand at xs4all.nl  Mon Oct 12 08:42:00 2015
From: h.m.brand at xs4all.nl (H.Merijn Brand)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 08:42:00 +0200
Subject: [Users] To-arrow patch
In-Reply-To: <20151011210816.38e5a711@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
References: <20151011210816.38e5a711@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <20151012084200.52075e40@pc09.procura.nl>

On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 21:08:16 +0200, Johan Vromans
<jvromans at squirrel.nl> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The attached patch adds a [Common] setting "to_arrow" where the user can
> choose what arrow prefix she wants for mail that is sent by herself. This
> is used in the "From" column of the summary view. Currently a "-->" is
> shown before the name of the recipient. This patch makes it easy to change
> this to e.g. a more modern "➜" glyph.
> 
> Is this feature worthy for inclusion?
> 
> -- Johan

In my private git clone as below. Looks exactly the same :)

Date:   Tue Nov 4 15:59:06 2014 +0100

    Add to_self configuration variable

diff --git a/src/prefs_common.c b/src/prefs_common.c
index 59f3a1e..15818cb 100644
--- a/src/prefs_common.c
+++ b/src/prefs_common.c
@@ -1070,6 +1070,8 @@ static PrefParam param[] = {
         NULL, NULL, NULL},
        {"enable_swap_from", "FALSE", &prefs_common.swap_from, P_BOOL,
         NULL, NULL, NULL},
+       {"to_self", "FALSE", &prefs_common.to_self, P_STRING,
+        NULL, NULL, NULL},
        {"use_stripes_everywhere", "TRUE", &prefs_common.use_stripes_everywhere, P_BOOL,
         NULL, NULL, NULL},
        {"use_stripes_in_summaries", "TRUE", &prefs_common.use_stripes_in_summaries, P_BOOL,
diff --git a/src/prefs_common.h b/src/prefs_common.h
index 2daf079..2b3ecf6 100644
--- a/src/prefs_common.h
+++ b/src/prefs_common.h
@@ -222,6 +222,7 @@ struct _PrefsCommon
        gboolean show_searchbar;
        gboolean expand_thread;
        gboolean swap_from;
+       gchar *to_self;
        gboolean use_addr_book;
        gchar *date_format;
        gboolean *msgview_date_format;
diff --git a/src/summaryview.c b/src/summaryview.c
index 6a2b654..8765cce 100644
--- a/src/summaryview.c
+++ b/src/summaryview.c
@@ -3420,6 +3420,8 @@ static inline void summary_set_header(SummaryView *summaryview, gchar *text[],
        if (!should_swap) {
                text[col_pos[S_COL_FROM]] = from_text;
        } else {
+               static gchar *to_self = NULL;
+
                if (prefs_common.use_addr_book) {
                        gchar *tmp = summary_complete_address(to_text);
                        if (tmp) {
@@ -3430,7 +3432,12 @@ static inline void summary_set_header(SummaryView *summaryview, gchar *text[],
                                to_text = to_text ? to_text : _("(No From)");
                        }
                }
-               snprintf(tmp2, BUFFSIZE-1, "--> %s", to_text);
+
+               if (to_self == NULL) { /* first time through */
+                   to_self = prefs_common.to_self && *prefs_common.to_self ?
+                       prefs_common.to_self : "-->";
+               }
+               snprintf(tmp2, BUFFSIZE-1, "%s %s", to_self, to_text);
                tmp2[BUFFSIZE-1]='\0';
                text[col_pos[S_COL_FROM]] = tmp2;
        }


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From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Mon Oct 12 09:07:20 2015
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 09:07:20 +0200
Subject: [Users] To-arrow patch
In-Reply-To: <20151012084200.52075e40@pc09.procura.nl>
References: <20151011210816.38e5a711@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20151012084200.52075e40@pc09.procura.nl>
Message-ID: <20151012090720.2862e64e@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 08:42:00 +0200
"H.Merijn Brand" <h.m.brand at xs4all.nl> wrote:

> In my private git clone as below. Looks exactly the same :)

Yes. I should have mentioned it *is* (basically) your patch.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 12 10:18:35 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 08:18:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3535] New: Scrolling Inactive Windows When Hovering
 over Them Does Not Work When Claws Is Frontmost Application
Message-ID: <bug-3535-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3535

            Bug ID: 3535
           Summary: Scrolling Inactive Windows When Hovering over Them
                    Does Not Work When Claws Is Frontmost Application
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.13.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows NT
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: emily at centurytel.net

In Windows 10 there is a new feature to allow scrolling of inactive windows
when hovering over them. For instance, if the active window is from Chrome and
there is an inactive window from Thunderbird partially visible, I can scroll
the Thunderbird window without switching to it first. This feature does not
work when a Claws window is the active window (it didn't work with Claws 3.12
either).

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 12 10:42:51 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 08:42:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3536] New: Plugin notifications - gmail account (IMAP)
 - show notification for unread messages
Message-ID: <bug-3536-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3536

            Bug ID: 3536
           Summary: Plugin notifications - gmail account (IMAP) - show
                    notification for unread messages
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.12.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: brum at email.cz

Helo,
can you make a patch for Windows to show notifications (pop up f.e.) for unread
messages too?
I can only find patches for Linux.

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From talk at advokati.biz  Mon Oct 12 11:52:43 2015
From: talk at advokati.biz (Daniel =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Hrb=E1=E8?=)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 11:52:43 +0200
Subject: [Users] Templates in folders are not saved.
Message-ID: <20151012115243.0000056a@advokati.biz>

Hello,

could someone with latest claws-mail on windows check for me the
following please?

With right-click on the account I can get short options menu where
individual templates for different accounts can be set. But when I
specify template for such account, it is not saved or used. 

Thanks,

Daniel


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 12 12:00:16 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:00:16 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3513] Can't delete multiple selected e-mails
In-Reply-To: <bug-3513-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3513-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3513-595-djjrLBKvXg@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3513

--- Comment #2 from daniel <daniel.hrbac at yahoo.com> ---
I confirm that exact behavioun with version 3.13. on Win10_x64

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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Mon Oct 12 12:02:27 2015
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 11:02:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.13 - Windows install issue
In-Reply-To: <561AFD57.2030103@openmailbox.org>
References: <561AE9F6.9000401@openmailbox.org>
 <20151012002814.2ac924e5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
 <561AFD57.2030103@openmailbox.org>
Message-ID: <20151012110227.00001769@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 20:22:47 -0400
edwardp at openmailbox.org wrote:

> Brian Morrison wrote:
> > On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 19:00:06 -0400
> > edwardp at openmailbox.org wrote:
> >
> >> At this time, Claws Mail is /not/ installed on this PC. It had
> >> been in the past (2014), but not since then.
> > Probably there are some left over registry entries, it should be
> > possible to find them using regedit and then remove them if it's
> > causing a problem.
> >
> 
> Although I have not checked the registry, would the problem then be
> with the installer, in that it is not removing everything when Claws
> is/was uninstalled? The version is Windows 7 Home Premium, 64-Bit.

The installer changed with 3.12.0, I would not expect it to deal with
entries put there by the old installer.

Best to search for and remove the old stuff.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 12 13:34:31 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 11:34:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3513] Can't delete multiple selected e-mails
In-Reply-To: <bug-3513-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3513-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3513-595-Yc2J4UyVja@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3513

--- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Yep, this is something that I completely forgot about. Sorry about that.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 12 15:10:05 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 13:10:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3506] The "size" column contents overlap the column to
	the left
In-Reply-To: <bug-3506-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3506-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3506-595-JL8GCAxJi9@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3506

--- Comment #1 from MD <crxssi at hotmail.com> ---
Unfortunately, it is still showing the same broken behavior in 3.13.0

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 12 15:48:14 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 13:48:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3506] The "size" column contents overlap the column to
	the left
In-Reply-To: <bug-3506-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3506-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3506-595-vQllzRD476@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3506

--- Comment #2 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> Unfortunately, it is still showing the same broken behavior in 3.13.0

Clearly, or else it would have been marked as FIXED.

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From david.burleigh at gmx.com  Mon Oct 12 16:20:20 2015
From: david.burleigh at gmx.com (David Burleigh)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:20:20 -0400
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
Message-ID: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>

The behavior is different when you delete an item from the list of
emails in a folder. With version 3.12 and before, deleting an item
resulted in the next item to be highlighted. With version 3.13 the
previous item is highlighted. This is disconcerting because if you want
to delete a consecutive sequence of emails, you have to manually cursor
down to the next item before pressing the Del key again or you will
delete the previous item instead of the next item. You can't just press
the Del key repeatedly to delete a series of emails.


From h.m.brand at xs4all.nl  Mon Oct 12 16:50:58 2015
From: h.m.brand at xs4all.nl (H.Merijn Brand)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:50:58 +0200
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
Message-ID: <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:20:20 -0400, David Burleigh
<david.burleigh at gmx.com> wrote:

> The behavior is different when you delete an item from the list of
> emails in a folder. With version 3.12 and before, deleting an item
> resulted in the next item to be highlighted. With version 3.13 the
> previous item is highlighted. This is disconcerting because if you want
> to delete a consecutive sequence of emails, you have to manually cursor
> down to the next item before pressing the Del key again or you will
> delete the previous item instead of the next item. You can't just press
> the Del key repeatedly to delete a series of emails.

This is showing esp when you have sorted your mail with newest on top,
which is in *my* perception the *only* sensible way of sorting based on
dates.

This patch would apply for you too then:

https://github.com/Tux/claws-mail/commit/816a8a8adae0f5a3a8ba48dbc383802bcbba7c41

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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Mon Oct 12 17:27:34 2015
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:27:34 +0100
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
 <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
Message-ID: <20151012162734.00001f0e@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:50:58 +0200
H.Merijn Brand wrote:

> This is showing esp when you have sorted your mail with newest on top,
> which is in *my* perception the *only* sensible way of sorting based
> on dates.

I do this, but with newest at the bottom... ;-)

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 12 17:48:03 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:48:03 +0100
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
 <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
Message-ID: <20151012164803.792754f7@kujata.lan>

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:50:58 +0200
"H.Merijn Brand" <h.m.brand at xs4all.nl> wrote: 

> This is showing esp when you have sorted your mail with newest on
> top, which is in *my* perception the *only* sensible way of sorting
> based on dates.
> 
> This patch would apply for you too then:
> 
> https://github.com/Tux/claws-mail/commit/816a8a8adae0f5a3a8ba48dbc383802bcbba7c41

Your patch just reverts a recent fix.

Claws now does the same thing regardless of which way you sort. Now
it always goes to the next message, no matter which way you sort.
Previously it would go the previous message if you you had newest at
the bottom, and the next message if you had newest at the top. Now it
is consistent. The only valid patch would be one that adds an option
to choose which way it goes.

with regards

Paul


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Mon Oct 12 17:49:11 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 17:49:11 +0200
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
 <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
Message-ID: <20151012174911.6d89ac64@archlinux.localdomain>

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:50:58 +0200, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
>This is showing esp when you have sorted your mail with newest on top,
>which is in *my* perception the *only* sensible way of sorting based on
>dates.

For a ring binder the newest on top makes sense, for mail clients it
IMO is more comfortable to have the newest at the bottom, if you sort
by date, because only then it's possible to display the mail that is
shown by the message view directly below the message selected by the
column view.

  Subject       From            vs  Subject       From
  ---------------------------       ---------------------------
  message foo 1 moo at reply.org       message foo 4 no at reply.org
  message foo 2 bar at reply.org       message foo 3 yps at reply.org
  message foo 3 yps at reply.org       message foo 2 bar at reply.org
  message foo 4 no at reply.org    4   message foo 1 moo at reply.org  1
  ---------------------------   is  ---------------------------  is not
  From: no at reply.org            4   From: no at reply.org           4
  Subject: message foo 4            Subject: message foo 4

  Hello,                            Hello,

  blablabla.                        blablabla.

  Regards,                          Regards,
  Me myself                         Me myself

  PS: This makes sense.             PS: This is confusing.

Regards,
Ralf


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 12 17:51:44 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:51:44 +0100
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
Message-ID: <20151012165144.12d8a9ea@kujata.lan>

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:20:20 -0400
David Burleigh <david.burleigh at gmx.com> wrote: 

> You can't just press
> the Del key repeatedly to delete a series of emails.

You can if you start at the first :)

with regards

Paul


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Mon Oct 12 17:51:38 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 17:51:38 +0200
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151012174911.6d89ac64@archlinux.localdomain>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
 <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151012174911.6d89ac64@archlinux.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20151012175138.562d2606@archlinux.localdomain>

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 17:49:11 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:50:58 +0200, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
>>This is showing esp when you have sorted your mail with newest on top,
>>which is in *my* perception the *only* sensible way of sorting based
>>on dates.  
>
>For a ring binder the newest on top makes sense, for mail clients it
>IMO is more comfortable to have the newest at the bottom, if you sort
>by date, because only then it's possible to display the mail that is
>shown by the message view directly below the message selected by the
>column view.
>
>  Subject       From            vs  Subject       From
>  ---------------------------       ---------------------------
>  message foo 1 moo at reply.org       message foo 4 no at reply.org
>  message foo 2 bar at reply.org       message foo 3 yps at reply.org
>  message foo 3 yps at reply.org       message foo 2 bar at reply.org
>  message foo 4 no at reply.org    4   message foo 1 moo at reply.org  1
>  ---------------------------   is  ---------------------------  is not
>  From: no at reply.org            4   From: no at reply.org           4
>  Subject: message foo 4            Subject: message foo 4
>
>  Hello,                            Hello,
>
>  blablabla.                        blablabla.
>
>  Regards,                          Regards,
>  Me myself                         Me myself
>
>  PS: This makes sense.             PS: This is confusing.
>
>Regards,
>Ralf

PS:

It also fits better to sane quoting style, were the latest mail always
should be below the quotes. IOW everything is consistent if sorting by
the newest at bottom.


From rol at witbe.net  Mon Oct 12 17:58:33 2015
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 17:58:33 +0200
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151012164803.792754f7@kujata.lan>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
 <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151012164803.792754f7@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20151012175833.7fe5a282@riri.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello,

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:48:03 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> Your patch just reverts a recent fix.
Huh ? What was fixed ? I don't remember seeing a bug related to that
behavior in the list...

> Previously it would go the previous message if you you had newest at
> the bottom, and the next message if you had newest at the top. Now it
> is consistent. 

What do you mean "consistent" ? My PoV is that 3.13 is not consistent with
3.12 :(

> The only valid patch would be one that adds an option
> to choose which way it goes.

Yes, maybe... but why then breaking a well established behavior without
adding that option ?

Hell, now I have to switch back to 3.12 :(

Paul
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From h.m.brand at xs4all.nl  Mon Oct 12 18:49:17 2015
From: h.m.brand at xs4all.nl (H.Merijn Brand)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 18:49:17 +0200
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151012175833.7fe5a282@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
 <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151012164803.792754f7@kujata.lan>
 <20151012175833.7fe5a282@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
Message-ID: <20151012184917.6040c975@pc09.procura.nl>

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 17:58:33 +0200, "Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)"
<rol at witbe.net> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:48:03 +0100
> Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > Your patch just reverts a recent fix.
> 
> Huh ? What was fixed ? I don't remember seeing a bug related to that
> behavior in the list...

Some perceived this as a bug. Others never noticed. The moment it got
"fixed", I started complaining as nothing worked as *I* expected it to
work. The "fix" broke *my* workflow in a way that would make me leave
CM if that was the only way it would work.

As that patch broke my workflow, it was the easiest action to take:
just revert what was causing my grief, regardless of what it might fix
(that never bothered me obviously).

> > Previously it would go the previous message if you you had newest at
> > the bottom, and the next message if you had newest at the top. Now it
> > is consistent.   
> 
> What do you mean "consistent" ? My PoV is that 3.13 is not consistent with
> 3.12 :(

Consistency is within the eye of the user. I think that the majority of
the CM developers think the only sane way of sorting threaded view is
having the newest last. Fine with me, but that is not how I work. I
want the newest on top. Period. You may call that weird or stupid or
whatever, but I have worked like that since many many years and am not
planning to change. I am under the impression that I am not the only
one.

> > The only valid patch would be one that adds an option
> > to choose which way it goes.  
> 
> Yes, maybe... but why then breaking a well established behavior without
> adding that option ?

/me agrees 100%
even if some say it was flawed. Prove it!

> Hell, now I have to switch back to 3.12 :(

Or revert the fix to some bug that we do not see as such. It *is* open
source and git is your/my friend.

> Paul

-- 
H.Merijn Brand  http://tux.nl   Perl Monger  http://amsterdam.pm.org/
using perl5.00307 .. 5.21   porting perl5 on HP-UX, AIX, and openSUSE
http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/        http://www.test-smoke.org/
http://qa.perl.org   http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 12 18:55:25 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 17:55:25 +0100
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151012175833.7fe5a282@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
 <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151012164803.792754f7@kujata.lan>
 <20151012175833.7fe5a282@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
Message-ID: <20151012175525.101e8e72@kujata.lan>

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 17:58:33 +0200
"Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)" <rol at witbe.net> wrote: 

> Huh ? What was fixed ? I don't remember seeing a bug related to that
> behavior in the list...

It's not always that things get reported.

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 12 19:01:50 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 18:01:50 +0100
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151012175833.7fe5a282@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
 <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151012164803.792754f7@kujata.lan>
 <20151012175833.7fe5a282@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
Message-ID: <20151012180150.305b96ac@kujata.lan>

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 17:58:33 +0200
"Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)" <rol at witbe.net> wrote: 

> Yes, maybe... but why then breaking a well established behavior
> without adding that option ?

Because I am waiting for your patch?

with regards

Paul


From rol at witbe.net  Mon Oct 12 19:11:59 2015
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:11:59 +0200
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151012180150.305b96ac@kujata.lan>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
 <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151012164803.792754f7@kujata.lan>
 <20151012175833.7fe5a282@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20151012180150.305b96ac@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20151012191159.44e39cfc@riri.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello,

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 18:01:50 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 17:58:33 +0200
> "Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)" <rol at witbe.net> wrote: 
> 
> > Yes, maybe... but why then breaking a well established behavior
> > without adding that option ?
> 
> Because I am waiting for your patch?

Fair enough, I deserve it ;)

OK, give me some time to get a look at that part of the code, and I'll try
to propose you something.

Best,
Paul
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From rol at witbe.net  Mon Oct 12 19:12:57 2015
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:12:57 +0200
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151012175525.101e8e72@kujata.lan>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
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 <20151012175833.7fe5a282@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20151012175525.101e8e72@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20151012191257.095a2be5@riri.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello,

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 17:55:25 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 17:58:33 +0200
> "Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)" <rol at witbe.net> wrote: 
> 
> > Huh ? What was fixed ? I don't remember seeing a bug related to that
> > behavior in the list...  
> 
> It's not always that things get reported.

Sure, but a change in the behavior of the user interface should have been
mentionned in the release notes, IMHO.

Best,
Paul

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 12 19:57:29 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 18:57:29 +0100
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151012191159.44e39cfc@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
 <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
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 <20151012175833.7fe5a282@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
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 <20151012191159.44e39cfc@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
Message-ID: <20151012185729.73ff8c56@kujata.lan>

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:11:59 +0200
"Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)" <rol at witbe.net> wrote: 

> Fair enough, I deserve it ;)
> 
> OK, give me some time to get a look at that part of the code, and
> I'll try to propose you something.

I just added a hidden pref to GIT to control this. Maybe this will
get a UI or maybe not.

with regards

Paul


From rhutter at posteo.de  Mon Oct 12 19:58:23 2015
From: rhutter at posteo.de (Ralf Hutter)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:58:23 +0200
Subject: [Users] How do i enable top-posting in response emails?
Message-ID: <20151012195823.355a3691@Trimini>

Hello everybody,
i've looked around a lot, but nowhere can i find the possibility to
have the cursor positioned above the answered text, when responding to
an email, instead of below.
Imposssible?
Ralf
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 12 20:05:25 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:05:25 +0100
Subject: [Users] How do i enable top-posting in response emails?
In-Reply-To: <20151012195823.355a3691@Trimini>
References: <20151012195823.355a3691@Trimini>
Message-ID: <20151012190525.68977f15@kujata.lan>

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:58:23 +0200
Ralf Hutter <rhutter at posteo.de> wrote: 

> i've looked around a lot, but nowhere can i find the possibility to
> have the cursor positioned above the answered text, when responding
> to an email, instead of below.
> Imposssible?

Possible! You need to use %X (or the equivalent %cursor) in your
templates. This controls the initial placement of the cursor.

with regards

Paul


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Mon Oct 12 20:15:54 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 20:15:54 +0200
Subject: [Users] How do i enable top-posting in response emails?
In-Reply-To: <20151012195823.355a3691@Trimini>
References: <20151012195823.355a3691@Trimini>
Message-ID: <20151012201554.61d3ad23@archlinux.localdomain>

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:58:23 +0200, Ralf Hutter wrote:
>i've looked around a lot, but nowhere can i find the possibility to
>have the cursor positioned above the answered text, when responding to
>an email, instead of below.
>Imposssible?

The first hit by a Startpage and by a Google search answers your
question:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=claws+mail+cursor+above+quotes -->
http://claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/000623.html

Hth,
Ralf



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 12 20:21:49 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:21:49 +0100
Subject: [Users] How do i enable top-posting in response emails?
In-Reply-To: <20151012201554.61d3ad23@archlinux.localdomain>
References: <20151012195823.355a3691@Trimini>
 <20151012201554.61d3ad23@archlinux.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20151012192149.6d649b99@kujata.lan>

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 20:15:54 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 

> The first hit by a Startpage and by a Google search answers your
> question:

And also the Information window in Claws, listing the available
symbols does.

with regards

Paul


From talk at advokati.biz  Mon Oct 12 20:36:53 2015
From: talk at advokati.biz (Daniel =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Hrb=E1=E8?=)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 20:36:53 +0200
Subject: [Users] How do i enable top-posting in response emails?
In-Reply-To: <20151012195823.355a3691@Trimini>
References: <20151012195823.355a3691@Trimini>
Message-ID: <20151012203653.0000266e@advokati.biz>




Dne Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:58:23 +0200 Ralf Hutter rhutter at posteo.de
napsal(a) zprávu: [Users] How do i enable top-posting in response
emails?

> Hello everybody,
> i've looked around a lot, but nowhere can i find the possibility to
> have the cursor positioned above the answered text, when responding to
> an email, instead of below.
> Imposssible?
> Ralf
> 

Create template in account folder properties. For one account I use:

%X
%as
Dne %d %N %A napsal(a) zprávu %s:
%q



Daniel


From r.brusa at gmx.ch  Mon Oct 12 21:30:10 2015
From: r.brusa at gmx.ch (Roman Brusa)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 21:30:10 +0200
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151012184917.6040c975@pc09.procura.nl>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
 <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151012164803.792754f7@kujata.lan>
 <20151012175833.7fe5a282@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20151012184917.6040c975@pc09.procura.nl>
Message-ID: <20151012213010.3253067f@rbits.ch>

Hi, H.Merijn schrieb am Mon, 12 Oct 2015 18:49:17 +0200:

>I think that the majority of
>the CM developers think the only sane way of sorting threaded view is
>having the newest last. Fine with me, but that is not how I work. I
>want the newest on top. Period. You may call that weird or stupid or
>whatever, but I have worked like that since many many years and am not
>planning to change. I am under the impression that I am not the only
>one.

Right. +1

Roman
-- 
Ihm, den ich liebe, wünsche ich Freiheit, sogar vor mir selbst. - Anne
Morrow Lindbergh


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 12 21:48:24 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:48:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3537] New: Compose address autocomplete abort wipes
 entire field
Message-ID: <bug-3537-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3537

            Bug ID: 3537
           Summary: Compose address autocomplete abort wipes entire field
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.13.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Compose Window
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: crxssi at hotmail.com

In the address field, if you put in an address, then a comma, and then another
address, and then press <tab> for autocomplete... if there is only a single
match for the autocomplete, it replaces what you typed with that match.  But if
you click outside that field without first pressing <enter> or <tab>, it will
wipe away the entire list of addresses except that which you typed last.  The
correct expected behavior would be to wipe away just what you typed last,
leaving the rest of the line intact.

Steps to reproduce:
1) Compose
2) Click in to address field
3) Type in "john, harry at nowhere.com, "
4) Then type in a name that will autocomplete to only one thing on YOUR system,
let's say that was "sally" which completes to "Sally Bright
<sally at nowhere.com>"
5) So now you have something like "john, Sally Bright <sally at nowhere.com>"
6) "Abort" that field by now just clicking on the body of the message.

Expected: 
"john, harry at nowhere.com, sally" would remain

Actual:
Only "sally" remains because "john, harry at nowhere.com, " was wiped from the To:
field

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.


From andrej at kacian.sk  Mon Oct 12 21:55:47 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 21:55:47 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.13.0 for Windows unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20151011233430.00002476@advokati.biz>
References: <20151011172044.1956cec0@penny>
 <20151011184025.12a1e453@leda.localdomain>
 <20151011231751.00000360@advokati.biz>
 <20151011232813.7ed744ae@penny>
 <20151011233430.00002476@advokati.biz>
Message-ID: <20151012215547.154c2a90@penny>

On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 23:34:30 +0200
Daniel Hrbáč <talk at advokati.biz> wrote:

> Dne Sun, 11 Oct 2015 23:28:13 +0200 Andrej Kacian andrej at kacian.sk
> napsal(a) zprávu Re: [Users] Claws Mail 3.13.0 for Windows unleashed!!:
> 
> > On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 23:17:51 +0200
> > Daniel Hrbáč <talk at advokati.biz> wrote:
> >   
> > > > * The installer is missing some text. I do see checkboxes, but no
> > > > text. See attached image for example...
> > > > 
> > > > * This installs to a new path, which is ok. The old installation
> > > > is not removed, though... I was wondering which my CM told me it
> > > > is still version 3.12.0 - but it was the old installation.
> > > >   Or did I miss any details on installation caused by the missing
> > > > text?    
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > +1 for this issue. I see no text too on Win10 x64.  
> > 
> > Do you have system language set to something other than English?
> >   
> 
> Yes, it is set to Czech.

I already replied privately (by mistake) to Charles, so here goes:

This is probably caused by incomplete translation of the installer. I
was hoping NSIS (the installer engine we're using) was smart enough to
use English strings where ones for your language are missing, but maybe
this is not the case. I haven't seen it mentioned in NSIS documentation.

Anyway, for the short term, I plan to force English language for the
installer, and for long term (probably fo, ask our translators to
translate installer strings (there's only about 30 of them at the
moment), and allow user to select the language like before.

I'm sorry for the inconvenience.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From andrej at kacian.sk  Mon Oct 12 22:10:26 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 22:10:26 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.13 - Windows install issue
In-Reply-To: <20151012110227.00001769@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <561AE9F6.9000401@openmailbox.org>
 <20151012002814.2ac924e5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
 <561AFD57.2030103@openmailbox.org>
 <20151012110227.00001769@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20151012221026.7685fe09@penny>

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 11:02:27 +0100
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

> The installer changed with 3.12.0, I would not expect it to deal with
> entries put there by the old installer.
> 
> Best to search for and remove the old stuff.

Actually, the installer changed more significantly in this release.

Originally, since we use build system inherited from Gpg4win, we used
also their installer, customized for our use (strings would refer to
"Claws Mail" instead of "Gpg4win", cosmetic things like that).

However, the installer was overly complicated for our use, since
Gpg4win is a collection of components, some of which are optional, and
others depend on each other, and do not always need to be installed.
Claws Mail package, on the other hand, installs everything
unconditionally, and therefore the installer does not need to be as
complex internally.

And now that I'm looking at the installer code that checks for old
versions, I realize that there is a logic error that causes it to
display incorrect message (the one Edward quoted in first post).

It will take me a while to work out all the kinks, since NSIS is quite
unintuitive. In the meantime, best way is to just uninstall any old
version, install the new one, and make sure that the installed links
(desktop, start menu, quicklaunch) point to the correct new executable.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From John at wexfordpress.com  Mon Oct 12 22:19:55 2015
From: John at wexfordpress.com (John Culleton)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:19:55 -0400
Subject: [Users] adjusting size of Claws Mail window
In-Reply-To: <20151009170345.76bcc1db@bonifac>
References: <20151009102125.2bead9b9@localb.wexfordpress.net>
 <20151009170345.76bcc1db@bonifac>
Message-ID: <20151012161955.11e0bc63@localb.wexfordpress.net>

On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 17:03:45 +0200
Slavko <linux at slavino.sk> wrote:

> Ahoj,
> 
> Dňa Fri, 9 Oct 2015 10:21:25 -0400 John Culleton
> <John at wexfordpress.com> napísal:
> 
> > I use Claws Mail on XFCE on Slackware Linux.
> > Recently the Claws Mail window reaches out to
> > the edges of the firtual screen. I cannot
> > move or
> 
> Yes, this sometime happens :-)
> 
> > reduce the CM window. All I can do is shut it
> > down. 
> 
> Yes, it is solution, but IMO bad. You have more
> options to solve it:
> 
> a) under XFCE is shortcut to drag window by any
> place with default (AFAIK - i don't use the
> default one) Left Alt + Left Mouse b) you can
> use the wmctrl with the -e option to define new
> window position and size (get windows list by
> the -l option) c) you can close CM and tweak
> the values under ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc
> 
> mainwin_x=1276
> mainwin_y=0
> mainwin_width=1831
> mainwin_height=1007
> 
> d) etc ;-)
> 
> > I use xrandr to render the virtual screen
> > size. I tried several different settings but
> > all work the same as far as CM occupying the
> > full screen. There are no window manipulation
> > icons in the upper right corner of the CM
> > window. 
> 
> F11?
> 
> Be sure to properly close CM at end of session,
> i have issues with this and the CM is killed
> and then no new values are written into rc file.
> 
> regards
> 

I changed one factor in clawsrc thus:
mainwin_fullscreen=0
and that solved the problem.

I have no ideas how this got changed to 1. 


-- 
John Culleton
Wexford Press
Book layout, typesetting and Indexing
Free list of books for self-publishers:
http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html


From edwardp at openmailbox.org  Mon Oct 12 22:28:37 2015
From: edwardp at openmailbox.org (edwardp at openmailbox.org)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:28:37 -0400
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.13 - Windows install issue
In-Reply-To: <20151012221026.7685fe09@penny>
References: <561AE9F6.9000401@openmailbox.org>
 <20151012002814.2ac924e5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
 <561AFD57.2030103@openmailbox.org>
 <20151012110227.00001769@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20151012221026.7685fe09@penny>
Message-ID: <20151012162837.00003b8f@openmailbox.org>

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 22:10:26 +0200
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> Actually, the installer changed more significantly in this release.
> 
> Originally, since we use build system inherited from Gpg4win, we used
> also their installer, customized for our use (strings would refer to
> "Claws Mail" instead of "Gpg4win", cosmetic things like that).
> 
> However, the installer was overly complicated for our use, since
> Gpg4win is a collection of components, some of which are optional, and
> others depend on each other, and do not always need to be installed.
> Claws Mail package, on the other hand, installs everything
> unconditionally, and therefore the installer does not need to be as
> complex internally.
> 
> And now that I'm looking at the installer code that checks for old
> versions, I realize that there is a logic error that causes it to
> display incorrect message (the one Edward quoted in first post).
> 
> It will take me a while to work out all the kinks, since NSIS is quite
> unintuitive. In the meantime, best way is to just uninstall any old
> version, install the new one, and make sure that the installed links
> (desktop, start menu, quicklaunch) point to the correct new
> executable.

I also installed Claws on Windows Vista Home Edition (32-bit) and also
saw the same message about Claws being installed on that machine, even
though it was also a good amount of time since it was last
installed/uninstalled on that machine as well.

Could the verbiage of that message be changed so that it is not as
confusing? If Claws is not currently installed on a machine, it really
shouldn't display something to the effect that it is. 

Just a thought.  :)




From andrej at kacian.sk  Mon Oct 12 22:45:06 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 22:45:06 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.13 - Windows install issue
In-Reply-To: <20151012162837.00003b8f@openmailbox.org>
References: <561AE9F6.9000401@openmailbox.org>
 <20151012002814.2ac924e5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
 <561AFD57.2030103@openmailbox.org>
 <20151012110227.00001769@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20151012221026.7685fe09@penny>
 <20151012162837.00003b8f@openmailbox.org>
Message-ID: <20151012224506.773e7831@penny>

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:28:37 -0400
<edwardp at openmailbox.org> wrote:

> Could the verbiage of that message be changed so that it is not as
> confusing? If Claws is not currently installed on a machine, it really
> shouldn't display something to the effect that it is. 

Indeed, there definitely will be improvements.

Regards,
-- 
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From clifflaine at europe.com  Tue Oct 13 09:41:36 2015
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 09:41:36 +0200
Subject: [Users] Incorrect time stamp
Message-ID: <20151013094136.6d0495f8@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

Hello -- my emails are being sent from the future :) The time stamp on
sent mail is an hour ahead of my time zone. The computer clock is
showing the correct time. 

Where can I reset Claws-Mail's time?

Cliff


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 13 09:48:18 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 08:48:18 +0100
Subject: [Users] Incorrect time stamp
In-Reply-To: <20151013094136.6d0495f8@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20151013094136.6d0495f8@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20151013084818.52cc57f1@kujata.lan>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 09:41:36 +0200
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote: 

> Hello -- my emails are being sent from the future :) The time stamp
> on sent mail is an hour ahead of my time zone. The computer clock is
> showing the correct time. 
> 
> Where can I reset Claws-Mail's time?

Claws Mail doesn't set it's own time.

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 13 09:49:31 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 07:49:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3537] Compose address autocomplete abort wipes entire
	field
In-Reply-To: <bug-3537-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3537-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3537-595-Zx9dBwChxE@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3537

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Severity|normal                      |enhancement

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
That's how it works. Instead, push Enter after each address and use a new
entry.

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 13 09:53:21 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 08:53:21 +0100
Subject: [Users] adjusting size of Claws Mail window
In-Reply-To: <20151012161955.11e0bc63@localb.wexfordpress.net>
References: <20151009102125.2bead9b9@localb.wexfordpress.net>
 <20151009170345.76bcc1db@bonifac>
 <20151012161955.11e0bc63@localb.wexfordpress.net>
Message-ID: <20151013085321.092757a4@kujata.lan>

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:19:55 -0400
John Culleton <John at wexfordpress.com> wrote: 

> I changed one factor in clawsrc thus:
> mainwin_fullscreen=0
> and that solved the problem.
> 
> I have no ideas how this got changed to 1.

You pressed F11, shortcut for /View/fullscreen.

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 13 10:12:14 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 08:12:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3384] often claws-mail (often) starts with default
	clawsrc
In-Reply-To: <bug-3384-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3384-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3384-595-Ayc0NEN3aG@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3384

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 13 10:12:55 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 08:12:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3506] The "size" column contents overlap the column to
	the left
In-Reply-To: <bug-3506-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3506-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3506-595-k4QiBevnK4@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3506

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #3 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 3281 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 13 10:12:55 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 08:12:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3281] The contents of the Size column are not
 truncated to column width
In-Reply-To: <bug-3281-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3281-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3281-595-CkZlMtStqw@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3281

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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                 CC|                            |crxssi at hotmail.com

--- Comment #2 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
*** Bug 3506 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 13 10:14:59 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 08:14:59 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3428] Folder processing rule has stopped working after
 working for a while
In-Reply-To: <bug-3428-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3428-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3428-595-4oJw6fNp1w@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3428

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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          Component|Folders                     |Plugins/RSSyl

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From clifflaine at europe.com  Tue Oct 13 10:15:28 2015
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:15:28 +0200
Subject: [Users] Incorrect time stamp
In-Reply-To: <20151013084818.52cc57f1@kujata.lan>
References: <20151013094136.6d0495f8@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20151013084818.52cc57f1@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20151013101528.4f7fc937@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 08:48:18 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 09:41:36 +0200
> Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote: 
> 
> > Hello -- my emails are being sent from the future :) The time stamp
> > on sent mail is an hour ahead of my time zone. The computer clock is
> > showing the correct time. 
> > 
> > Where can I reset Claws-Mail's time?
> 
> Claws Mail doesn't set it's own time.

Thank you Paul -- that's strange then! 

Cliff


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 13 10:17:09 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 08:17:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3476] loading a certain message's remote content
 causes hang and 200% CPU
In-Reply-To: <bug-3476-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3476-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3476-595-xzVtRtiBRX@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3476

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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            Summary|loading remote content      |loading a certain message's
                   |causes claws to hang and    |remote content causes hang
                   |consume 200% CPU            |and 200% CPU

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From maumar at datalogica.com  Tue Oct 13 10:44:15 2015
From: maumar at datalogica.com (Maurizio Marini)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:44:15 +0200
Subject: [Users] Incorrect time stamp
In-Reply-To: <20151013094136.6d0495f8@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20151013094136.6d0495f8@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20151013104415.0bd8a0cd.maumar@datalogica.com>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 09:41:36 +0200
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote:

> Hello -- my emails are being sent from the future :) The time stamp on
> sent mail is an hour ahead of my time zone. The computer clock is
> showing the correct time. 
> 
> Where can I reset Claws-Mail's time?

Looking at message source, I can see that your TZ is +0200
but I don't think that
Central University of Newcastle-upon-Tyne
is +2
Examine better your "GTK+ 2.24.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu" TZ setting. Try to link
software /etc/localtime to /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/London
ln -s -f /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/London /etc/localtime

Your source message:

Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 09:41:36 +0200
From: Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com>


Paul's TZ is correct:
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 08:48:18 +0100
From: Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 13 10:47:45 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 08:47:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3435] Program received signal SIGSEGV,
	Segmentation fault.
In-Reply-To: <bug-3435-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3435-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3435-595-7gS08tjY0K@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3435

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
More infor needed.
http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Debugging_Claws

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 13 11:06:30 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 09:06:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3435] Program received signal SIGSEGV,
	Segmentation fault.
In-Reply-To: <bug-3435-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3435-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3435-595-mIx6u15ASJ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3435

Olivier Mellina <olivier.mellina at eesp.ch> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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         Resolution|INVALID                     |FIXED

--- Comment #2 from Olivier Mellina <olivier.mellina at eesp.ch> ---
This case was fixed after a complete system reinstall (for other reasons that
this case ) with claws-mail 3.12
The problem probably came from a missing library

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 13 11:07:13 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 09:07:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3435] Program received signal SIGSEGV,
	Segmentation fault.
In-Reply-To: <bug-3435-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3435-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3435-595-Rb1KA4biI0@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3435

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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         Resolution|FIXED                       |INVALID

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From linux at slavino.sk  Tue Oct 13 14:18:53 2015
From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 14:18:53 +0200
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151012184917.6040c975@pc09.procura.nl>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
 <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151012164803.792754f7@kujata.lan>
 <20151012175833.7fe5a282@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20151012184917.6040c975@pc09.procura.nl>
Message-ID: <20151013141853.63697907@bonifac>

Ahoj,

Dňa Mon, 12 Oct 2015 18:49:17 +0200 "H.Merijn Brand"
<h.m.brand at xs4all.nl> napísal:

> Consistency is within the eye of the user. I think that the majority
> of the CM developers think the only sane way of sorting threaded view
> is having the newest last. Fine with me, but that is not how I work. I
> want the newest on top. Period. You may call that weird or stupid or
> whatever, but I have worked like that since many many years and am not
> planning to change. I am under the impression that I am not the only
> one.

The worst thing, which can happen, is when someone think, that his
solution is best for all - and this is valid for both, the users and
the developers.

I read more times in this list, that this or another thing will
not changed, because users are accustomed to this behavior. Now the
change affects all, only because CM developers know better what sorting
is the best? In this case, please remove all sorting change options too
- to see this solution in full prettiness!

regards

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 13 14:26:28 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 13:26:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151013141853.63697907@bonifac>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
 <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151012164803.792754f7@kujata.lan>
 <20151012175833.7fe5a282@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
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Message-ID: <20151013132628.74aa1e89@kujata.lan>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 14:18:53 +0200
Slavko <linux at slavino.sk> wrote: 

> Now the change affects all

No, it only affected those who have the newest at the top.

with regards

Paul


From ricardo at mones.org  Tue Oct 13 14:28:35 2015
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 14:28:35 +0200
Subject: [Users] To-arrow patch
In-Reply-To: <20151012090720.2862e64e@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
References: <20151011210816.38e5a711@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20151012084200.52075e40@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151012090720.2862e64e@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <20151013122835.GC2445@busgosu.mones.org>

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 09:07:20AM +0200, Johan Vromans wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 08:42:00 +0200
> "H.Merijn Brand" <h.m.brand at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> 
> > In my private git clone as below. Looks exactly the same :)
> 
> Yes. I should have mentioned it *is* (basically) your patch.

I don't think an option is needed for this. GTK+2 supports unicode arrows
from some time ago, so it's just matter of switching to a proper arrow
instead of poor's man ASCII replacement.

The only problem I see is fonts without the arrow glyph, which will
render it as the replacement char (�), or something worse.

Not sure if that's really a concern currently (old distros maybe?).

regards,
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From moxalt at riseup.net  Tue Oct 13 16:14:47 2015
From: moxalt at riseup.net (moxalt)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:14:47 +0300
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151012184917.6040c975@pc09.procura.nl>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
 <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
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Message-ID: <20151013171447.02f18b03@multivac>

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 18:49:17 +0200, "H.Merijn Brand" <h.m.brand at xs4all.nl>
wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 17:58:33 +0200, "Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)"
> <rol at witbe.net> wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:48:03 +0100
> > Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > > Your patch just reverts a recent fix.
> > 
> > Huh ? What was fixed ? I don't remember seeing a bug related to that
> > behavior in the list...
> 
> Some perceived this as a bug. Others never noticed. The moment it got
> "fixed", I started complaining as nothing worked as *I* expected it to
> work. The "fix" broke *my* workflow in a way that would make me leave
> CM if that was the only way it would work.
> 
> As that patch broke my workflow, it was the easiest action to take:
> just revert what was causing my grief, regardless of what it might fix
> (that never bothered me obviously).
> 
> > > Previously it would go the previous message if you you had newest at
> > > the bottom, and the next message if you had newest at the top. Now it
> > > is consistent.   
> > 
> > What do you mean "consistent" ? My PoV is that 3.13 is not consistent with
> > 3.12 :(
> 
> Consistency is within the eye of the user. I think that the majority of
> the CM developers think the only sane way of sorting threaded view is
> having the newest last. Fine with me, but that is not how I work. I
> want the newest on top. Period. You may call that weird or stupid or
> whatever, but I have worked like that since many many years and am not
> planning to change. I am under the impression that I am not the only
> one.

You're not the only one. If Claws offers an option to sort newest last, it
should work, not just be ignored because 'no one does it that way'. Dictating
to the users whether they should sort ascending or descending just seems very
petty.


From moxalt at riseup.net  Tue Oct 13 16:18:53 2015
From: moxalt at riseup.net (moxalt)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:18:53 +0300
Subject: [Users] How do i enable top-posting in response emails?
In-Reply-To: <20151012195823.355a3691@Trimini>
References: <20151012195823.355a3691@Trimini>
Message-ID: <20151013171853.1e7641ea@multivac>

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:58:23 +0200, Ralf Hutter <rhutter at posteo.de> wrote:

> Hello everybody,
> i've looked around a lot, but nowhere can i find the possibility to
> have the cursor positioned above the answered text, when responding to
> an email, instead of below.
> Imposssible?
> Ralf

Please, please, please, please don't top-post. Please.

A: This.
Q: What is top-posting?
A: Because it messes up the flow.
Q: Why should one not top-post?


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Tue Oct 13 16:33:16 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:33:16 +0200
Subject: [Users] How do i enable top-posting in response emails?
In-Reply-To: <20151013171853.1e7641ea@multivac>
References: <20151012195823.355a3691@Trimini>
 <20151013171853.1e7641ea@multivac>
Message-ID: <20151013163316.46078f22@archlinux.localdomain>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:18:53 +0300, moxalt wrote:
>On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:58:23 +0200, Ralf Hutter wrote:
>> i've looked around a lot, but nowhere can i find the possibility to
>> have the cursor positioned above the answered text, when responding
>> to an email, instead of below.  
>
>Please, please, please, please don't top-post. Please.

The OP seems to be from Germany, so assumed he needs Claws for office
work, he might not have a choice.

Sometimes business people ask to quote the complete correspondence. If
you would bottom post, they won't read the mail, because they think you
didn't answer. It's expected that replies are on top, followed by tons
of older messages, including all that grotesque signatures that are
three times as long as the message bodies are.

Regards,
Another Ralf


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 13 16:33:46 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 15:33:46 +0100
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151013171447.02f18b03@multivac>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
 <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151012164803.792754f7@kujata.lan>
 <20151012175833.7fe5a282@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20151012184917.6040c975@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151013171447.02f18b03@multivac>
Message-ID: <20151013153346.6edc233f@kujata.lan>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:14:47 +0300
moxalt <moxalt at riseup.net> wrote: 

> You're not the only one. If Claws offers an option to sort newest
> last, it should work, not just be ignored because 'no one does it
> that way'. Dictating to the users whether they should sort
> ascending or descending just seems very petty.

You've completely missed the point.

with regards

Paul


From moxalt at riseup.net  Tue Oct 13 16:42:36 2015
From: moxalt at riseup.net (moxalt)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:42:36 +0300
Subject: [Users] Incorrect time stamp
In-Reply-To: <20151013101528.4f7fc937@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20151013094136.6d0495f8@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20151013084818.52cc57f1@kujata.lan>
 <20151013101528.4f7fc937@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20151013174236.4cb9ca14@multivac>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:15:28 +0200, Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 08:48:18 +0100
> Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 09:41:36 +0200
> > Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote: 
> > 
> > > Hello -- my emails are being sent from the future :) The time stamp
> > > on sent mail is an hour ahead of my time zone. The computer clock is
> > > showing the correct time. 
> > > 
> > > Where can I reset Claws-Mail's time?
> > 
> > Claws Mail doesn't set it's own time.
> 
> Thank you Paul -- that's strange then! 
> 
> Cliff

If you are running a Debian-based distribution, try running 'apt-get reconfigure
tzdata' to reconfigure your timezone settings.


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Tue Oct 13 16:47:23 2015
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 15:47:23 +0100
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151013171447.02f18b03@multivac>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
 <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151012164803.792754f7@kujata.lan>
 <20151012175833.7fe5a282@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20151012184917.6040c975@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151013171447.02f18b03@multivac>
Message-ID: <20151013154723.00007455@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:14:47 +0300
moxalt wrote:

> Dictating
> to the users whether they should sort ascending or descending just
> seems very petty.

That isn't what happened. The previous behaviour happened to work for
both sort orders, the new behaviour only works as expected for one.

It will get fixed soon, but not instantly.

-- 

Brian Morrison


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Tue Oct 13 16:48:57 2015
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 15:48:57 +0100
Subject: [Users] How do i enable top-posting in response emails?
In-Reply-To: <20151013171853.1e7641ea@multivac>
References: <20151012195823.355a3691@Trimini>
 <20151013171853.1e7641ea@multivac>
Message-ID: <20151013154857.000039a6@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:18:53 +0300
moxalt wrote:

> Please, please, please, please don't top-post. Please.

In some places it is the expected, and often required, behaviour.

It's configurable on a per-folder basis to allow it to be used in some
cases and not in others.

-- 

Brian Morrison


From patrick.boettcher at posteo.de  Tue Oct 13 16:50:44 2015
From: patrick.boettcher at posteo.de (Patrick Boettcher)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:50:44 +0200
Subject: [Users] How do i enable top-posting in response emails?
In-Reply-To: <20151013163316.46078f22@archlinux.localdomain>
References: <20151012195823.355a3691@Trimini>
 <20151013171853.1e7641ea@multivac>
 <20151013163316.46078f22@archlinux.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20151013165044.03b77d09@dibcom294.coe.adi.dibcom.com>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:33:16 +0200 Ralf Mardorf
<info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:18:53 +0300, moxalt wrote:
> >On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:58:23 +0200, Ralf Hutter wrote:
> >> i've looked around a lot, but nowhere can i find the possibility to
> >> have the cursor positioned above the answered text, when responding
> >> to an email, instead of below.  
> >
> >Please, please, please, please don't top-post. Please.
> 
> The OP seems to be from Germany, so assumed he needs Claws for office
> work, he might not have a choice.

Even more off-topic than moxalt's answer in regards to this thread:

I would not assume that someone using a .de-address as sender is from
Germany (especially when it's posteo.de). 
 
> Sometimes business people ask to quote the complete correspondence. If
> you would bottom post, they won't read the mail, because they think you
> didn't answer. It's expected that replies are on top, followed by tons
> of older messages, including all that grotesque signatures that are
> three times as long as the message bodies are.

I can confirm this reasoning. In addition this flow makes threading
quite unuseful - sometimes. 

regards,
--
Patrick.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 13 16:55:46 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 15:55:46 +0100
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151013154723.00007455@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
 <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151012164803.792754f7@kujata.lan>
 <20151012175833.7fe5a282@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20151012184917.6040c975@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151013171447.02f18b03@multivac>
 <20151013154723.00007455@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20151013155546.7821c152@kujata.lan>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 15:47:23 +0100
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote: 

> That isn't what happened. The previous behaviour happened to work
> for both sort orders, the new behaviour only works as expected for
> one.

No, not even that. What it is is this:

You have 3 msgs, 1, 2, and 3. 1 is the oldest, 3 is the newest.
Previously if you sorted with newest at the bottom and delete 2, then
1 (the older message) would be automatically selected. If you sorted
with the newest at the top and you deleted 2, then 3 (the newest)
would get selected.

With version 3.13.0, regardless of which way you sort, if you delete
2, 1, the oldest, gets selected.

with regards

Paul


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Tue Oct 13 16:58:28 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:58:28 +0200
Subject: [Users] How do i enable top-posting in response emails?
In-Reply-To: <20151013165044.03b77d09@dibcom294.coe.adi.dibcom.com>
References: <20151012195823.355a3691@Trimini>
 <20151013171853.1e7641ea@multivac>
 <20151013163316.46078f22@archlinux.localdomain>
 <20151013165044.03b77d09@dibcom294.coe.adi.dibcom.com>
Message-ID: <20151013165828.267136d0@archlinux.localdomain>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:50:44 +0200, Patrick Boettcher wrote:
>I would not assume that someone using a .de-address as sender is from
>Germany (especially when it's posteo.de)

The OP's name spelling is the same spelling as my name's spelling.

Ralf

I suspect that in most other countries the spelling more often is

Ralph

That's the reason that I wrote that the "OP seems to be from Germany".
                                            ^^^^^


From h.m.brand at xs4all.nl  Tue Oct 13 17:22:37 2015
From: h.m.brand at xs4all.nl (H.Merijn Brand)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:22:37 +0200
Subject: [Users] How do i enable top-posting in response emails?
In-Reply-To: <20151013165044.03b77d09@dibcom294.coe.adi.dibcom.com>
References: <20151012195823.355a3691@Trimini>
 <20151013171853.1e7641ea@multivac>
 <20151013163316.46078f22@archlinux.localdomain>
 <20151013165044.03b77d09@dibcom294.coe.adi.dibcom.com>
Message-ID: <20151013172237.62a446c4@pc09.procura.nl>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:50:44 +0200, Patrick Boettcher
<patrick.boettcher at posteo.de> wrote:

> > Sometimes business people ask to quote the complete correspondence. If
> > you would bottom post, they won't read the mail, because they think you
> > didn't answer. It's expected that replies are on top, followed by tons
> > of older messages, including all that grotesque signatures that are
> > three times as long as the message bodies are.  

and what about the complete stack of company logo's (multi-fold, as all
replyers add their own set), smiley gifs, jpegs for twitter, facebook
and other shit and worse, advertisements!

> I can confirm this reasoning. In addition this flow makes threading
> quite unuseful - sometimes. 

Even when people expect me to do top-posting, I do so with just a
single line as top-post:

"I have answers to all your questions. Read them below the questions you
 asked in your ridiculously long mail (from which I stripped all useless
 company logo's and signatures)"

Then I reply as usual. If they still don't get it, its their fault, not
mine.

-- 
H.Merijn Brand  http://tux.nl   Perl Monger  http://amsterdam.pm.org/
using perl5.00307 .. 5.21   porting perl5 on HP-UX, AIX, and openSUSE
http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/        http://www.test-smoke.org/
http://qa.perl.org   http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/
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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Tue Oct 13 17:34:09 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:34:09 +0200
Subject: [Users] How do i enable top-posting in response emails?
In-Reply-To: <20151013172237.62a446c4@pc09.procura.nl>
References: <20151012195823.355a3691@Trimini>
 <20151013171853.1e7641ea@multivac>
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Message-ID: <20151013173409.6c8aae77@archlinux.localdomain>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:22:37 +0200, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
>On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:50:44 +0200, Patrick Boettcher
><patrick.boettcher at posteo.de> wrote:
>
>> > Sometimes business people ask to quote the complete
>> > correspondence. If you would bottom post, they won't read the
>> > mail, because they think you didn't answer. It's expected that
>> > replies are on top, followed by tons of older messages, including
>> > all that grotesque signatures that are three times as long as the
>> > message bodies are.    
>
>and what about the complete stack of company logo's (multi-fold, as all
>replyers add their own set), smiley gifs, jpegs for twitter, facebook
>and other shit and worse, advertisements!

and http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/

That's why I used the word "grotesque". This are the signatures I'm
talking about. I usually cut it and I bet nobody notices, since nobody
will read the quoted mails.

>> I can confirm this reasoning. In addition this flow makes threading
>> quite unuseful - sometimes.   
>
>Even when people expect me to do top-posting, I do so with just a
>single line as top-post:
>
>"I have answers to all your questions. Read them below the questions
>you asked in your ridiculously long mail (from which I stripped all
> useless company logo's and signatures)"
>
>Then I reply as usual. If they still don't get it, its their fault, not
>mine.

This is what I often do too, but if I want my money back, a good job or
something similar, I prefer that they get it ;).


From cwallace at lodgingcompany.com  Tue Oct 13 18:49:58 2015
From: cwallace at lodgingcompany.com (Chad Wallace)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 09:49:58 -0700
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151013155546.7821c152@kujata.lan>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
 <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151012164803.792754f7@kujata.lan>
 <20151012175833.7fe5a282@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20151012184917.6040c975@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151013171447.02f18b03@multivac>
 <20151013154723.00007455@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20151013155546.7821c152@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20151013094958.6f2ab2e2@ws78.int.tlc>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 15:55:46 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 15:47:23 +0100
> Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote: 
> 
> > That isn't what happened. The previous behaviour happened to work
> > for both sort orders, the new behaviour only works as expected for
> > one.
> 
> No, not even that. What it is is this:
> 
> You have 3 msgs, 1, 2, and 3. 1 is the oldest, 3 is the newest.
> Previously if you sorted with newest at the bottom and delete 2, then
> 1 (the older message) would be automatically selected. If you sorted
> with the newest at the top and you deleted 2, then 3 (the newest)
> would get selected.
> 
> With version 3.13.0, regardless of which way you sort, if you delete
> 2, 1, the oldest, gets selected.

Sorry, I'm coming in pretty late on this thread (and I don't have 3.13
anyway), but 2 cents is 2 cents! :-)  

It would make more sense to me if it would select the newest one, so 3
in your example.  Or, perhaps it could select a message based on the
setting for "default selection when entering a folder" in the
Display/Summaries preferences.


-- 

C. Chad Wallace, B.Sc.
The Lodging Company
http://www.lodgingcompany.com/
OpenPGP Public Key ID: 0x262208A0



From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Tue Oct 13 19:31:46 2015
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 13:31:46 -0400
Subject: [Users] How do i enable top-posting in response emails?
In-Reply-To: <20151013163316.46078f22@archlinux.localdomain>
References: <20151012195823.355a3691@Trimini>
 <20151013171853.1e7641ea@multivac>
 <20151013163316.46078f22@archlinux.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20151013133146.3bc114f2@littlap.domain.cxm>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:33:16 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:18:53 +0300, moxalt wrote:
> >On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:58:23 +0200, Ralf Hutter wrote:
> >> i've looked around a lot, but nowhere can i find the possibility to
> >> have the cursor positioned above the answered text, when responding
> >> to an email, instead of below.  
> >
> >Please, please, please, please don't top-post. Please.
> 
> The OP seems to be from Germany, so assumed he needs Claws for office
> work, he might not have a choice.
> 
> Sometimes business people ask to quote the complete correspondence. If
> you would bottom post, they won't read the mail, because they think
> you didn't answer. It's expected that replies are on top, followed by
> tons of older messages, including all that grotesque signatures that
> are three times as long as the message bodies are.

True, but there's a special place in hell for people who top post in
mailing lists discussions.

SteveT



From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Tue Oct 13 20:39:58 2015
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 20:39:58 +0200
Subject: [Users] To-arrow patch
In-Reply-To: <20151013122835.GC2445@busgosu.mones.org>
References: <20151011210816.38e5a711@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20151012084200.52075e40@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151012090720.2862e64e@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20151013122835.GC2445@busgosu.mones.org>
Message-ID: <20151013203958.4593af15@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 14:28:35 +0200
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:

> I don't think an option is needed for this. GTK+2 supports unicode arrows
> from some time ago, so it's just matter of switching to a proper arrow
> instead of poor's man ASCII replacement.

That would be even nicer!

-- Johan
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From boxcars at gmx.net  Tue Oct 13 22:17:57 2015
From: boxcars at gmx.net (=?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?=)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 15:17:57 -0500
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
 <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151012164803.792754f7@kujata.lan>
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Message-ID: <20151013151757.7886dac7@sepulchrave.remarqs>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 15:55:46 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> You have 3 msgs, 1, 2, and 3. 1 is the oldest, 3 is the newest.
> Previously if you sorted with newest at the bottom and delete 2, then
> 1 (the older message) would be automatically selected. If you sorted
> with the newest at the top and you deleted 2, then 3 (the newest)
> would get selected.
> 
> With version 3.13.0, regardless of which way you sort, if you delete
> 2, 1, the oldest, gets selected.

I don't have 3.13.0 yet.  Does this change affect the way 'n' and 'p'
move through the message list?




From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Tue Oct 13 23:29:44 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 23:29:44 +0200
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151013151757.7886dac7@sepulchrave.remarqs>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
 <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151012164803.792754f7@kujata.lan>
 <20151012175833.7fe5a282@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20151012184917.6040c975@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151013171447.02f18b03@multivac>
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Message-ID: <20151013232944.5f24226e@archlinux.localdomain>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 15:17:57 -0500, »Q« wrote:
>I don't have 3.13.0 yet.  Does this change affect the way 'n' and 'p'
>move through the message list?

I don't know how the behaviour is for < 3.13, for 3.13 it's

sort by date/thread date ascending  n=cursor down=to newer mail 
                                    p=cursor up  =to older mail
sort by date/thread date descending n=cursor down=to older mail
                                    p=cursor up  =to newer mail

Regards,
Ralf



From ricardo at mones.org  Wed Oct 14 00:32:01 2015
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 00:32:01 +0200
Subject: [Users] warn the user if application fails to open an attachment
In-Reply-To: <CAC9WiBgSOai4E0uG2QHHOHgmUTt7g6vGHJCEQn_jTA0T2D=7kQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC9WiBgSOai4E0uG2QHHOHgmUTt7g6vGHJCEQn_jTA0T2D=7kQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20151014003201.0123975e@sumiciu>

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 09:17:12 +0200
Francis Moreau <francis.moro at gmail.com> wrote:

> It would be nice to make CM emit a warning if the application it
> starts to open an attachment  returns an error.

If you have some concrete example of "application" and "error" you can
file a RFE on project's bugzilla.

regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  You have the capacity to learn from mistakes. You'll learn a lot 
  today.                                           /usr/games/fortune

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From rol at witbe.net  Wed Oct 14 01:20:34 2015
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 01:20:34 +0200
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151012185729.73ff8c56@kujata.lan>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
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Message-ID: <20151014012034.139b4cf7@riri.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello Paul,

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 18:57:29 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:11:59 +0200
> "Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)" <rol at witbe.net> wrote: 
> 
> > Fair enough, I deserve it ;)
> > 
> > OK, give me some time to get a look at that part of the code, and
> > I'll try to propose you something.  
> 
> I just added a hidden pref to GIT to control this. Maybe this will
> get a UI or maybe not.

Would you accept the attached patch for inclusion, to give this parameter a
GUI ?

It's based on a fresh git clone, and it was compiled + tested on my
machine, and it is doing what I'm expected it to do, based on the patch you
already committed.

Best,
Paul

-- 

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From edwardp at openmailbox.org  Wed Oct 14 01:54:36 2015
From: edwardp at openmailbox.org (edwardp at openmailbox.org)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 19:54:36 -0400
Subject: [Users] Account name colors
Message-ID: <20151013195436.0f71bcb7@openmailbox.org>

I've noticed with Claws Mail that when new emails come in (via IMAP),
the account title for some accounts becomes bolded in blue and others
are bolded in black.

Is there any particular reason for the different colors?



From pf at pfortin.com  Wed Oct 14 03:06:55 2015
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 21:06:55 -0400
Subject: [Users] Account name colors
In-Reply-To: <20151013195436.0f71bcb7@openmailbox.org>
References: <20151013195436.0f71bcb7@openmailbox.org>
Message-ID: <20151013210655.6ff20bdc@pfortin.com>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 19:54:36 -0400 edwardp at openmailbox.org wrote:

>I've noticed with Claws Mail that when new emails come in (via IMAP),
>the account title for some accounts becomes bolded in blue and others
>are bolded in black.
>
>Is there any particular reason for the different colors?

New mail & unread mail will bold-color the folder(s).


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Oct 14 09:31:33 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 08:31:33 +0100
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151013151757.7886dac7@sepulchrave.remarqs>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
 <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151012164803.792754f7@kujata.lan>
 <20151012175833.7fe5a282@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20151012184917.6040c975@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151013171447.02f18b03@multivac>
 <20151013154723.00007455@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20151013155546.7821c152@kujata.lan>
 <20151013151757.7886dac7@sepulchrave.remarqs>
Message-ID: <20151014083133.06b925a9@kujata.lan>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 15:17:57 -0500
»Q« <boxcars at gmx.net> wrote: 

> I don't have 3.13.0 yet.  Does this change affect the way 'n' and
> 'p' move through the message list?

Not at all. That's unrelated. And even if that had happened, you
would exchange the shortcuts, right? :)

with regards

Paul


From andrej at kacian.sk  Wed Oct 14 11:51:04 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 11:51:04 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.13.0-2 for Windows unleashed!!
Message-ID: <20151014115104.00002ff1@kacian.sk>

14th October 2015                                     Claws Mail
3.13.0-2

              CLAWS MAIL FOR WINDOWS RELEASE NOTES
                http://www.claws-mail.org/win32

Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast
email client.

New in this release:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
* Installer now forces English language, as an interim measure to
  prevent bug with missing text in other languages. Translation support
  is being worked on.

* Installer no longer incorrectly warns about old version being
  installed when there is none.

---------------------------------------------------------------------
See http://www.claws-mail.org/NEWS for full information regarding
changes since the previous release.


From tomjvv at optonline.net  Wed Oct 14 14:49:40 2015
From: tomjvv at optonline.net (thomas venditto)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 08:49:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Users] unsubscribe
In-Reply-To: <mailman.178.1444755012.25613.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
References: <mailman.178.1444755012.25613.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
Message-ID: <30ba9b58.22039.150666620ab.Webtop.55@optonline.net>





TomJV
 
 
 On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:50 PM, users-request at lists.claws-mail.org 
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>    1. Re: Version 3.13 (Brian Morrison)
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>       (Brian Morrison)
>    3. Re: How do i enable top-posting in response emails?
>       (Patrick Boettcher)
>    4. Re: Version 3.13 (Paul)
>    5. Re: How do i enable top-posting in response emails? (Ralf 
> Mardorf)
>    6. Re: How do i enable top-posting in response emails?
>       (H.Merijn Brand)
>    7. Re: How do i enable top-posting in response emails? (Ralf 
> Mardorf)
>    8. Re: Version 3.13 (Chad Wallace)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 15:47:23 +0100
> From: Brian Morrison To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] Version 3.13
> Message-ID: <20151013154723.00007455 at surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:14:47 +0300
> moxalt wrote:
>
>> Dictating
>> to the users whether they should sort ascending or descending just
>> seems very petty.
>
> That isn't what happened. The previous behaviour happened to work for
> both sort orders, the new behaviour only works as expected for one.
>
> It will get fixed soon, but not instantly.
>
> -- 
>
> Brian Morrison
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 15:48:57 +0100
> From: Brian Morrison To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] How do i enable top-posting in response emails?
> Message-ID: <20151013154857.000039a6 at surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:18:53 +0300
> moxalt wrote:
>
>> Please, please, please, please don't top-post. Please.
>
> In some places it is the expected, and often required, behaviour.
>
> It's configurable on a per-folder basis to allow it to be used in some
> cases and not in others.
>
> -- 
>
> Brian Morrison
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:50:44 +0200
> From: Patrick Boettcher

> To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: users at lists.claws-mail.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] How do i enable top-posting in response emails?
> Message-ID: <20151013165044.03b77d09 at dibcom294.coe.adi.dibcom.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:33:16 +0200 Ralf Mardorf
>  wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:18:53 +0300, moxalt wrote:
>>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:58:23 +0200, Ralf Hutter wrote:
>>>> i've looked around a lot, but nowhere can i find the possibility to
>>>> have the cursor positioned above the answered text, when responding
>>>> to an email, instead of below.
>>>
>>> Please, please, please, please don't top-post. Please.
>>
>> The OP seems to be from Germany, so assumed he needs Claws for office
>> work, he might not have a choice.
>
> Even more off-topic than moxalt's answer in regards to this thread:
>
> I would not assume that someone using a .de-address as sender is from
> Germany (especially when it's posteo.de).
>> Sometimes business people ask to quote the complete correspondence. 
>> If
>> you would bottom post, they won't read the mail, because they think 
>> you
>> didn't answer. It's expected that replies are on top, followed by 
>> tons
>> of older messages, including all that grotesque signatures that are
>> three times as long as the message bodies are.
>
> I can confirm this reasoning. In addition this flow makes threading
> quite unuseful - sometimes.
> regards,
> --
> Patrick.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 15:55:46 +0100
> From: Paul To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] Version 3.13
> Message-ID: <20151013155546.7821c152 at kujata.lan>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 15:47:23 +0100
> Brian Morrison  wrote:
>> That isn't what happened. The previous behaviour happened to work
>> for both sort orders, the new behaviour only works as expected for
>> one.
>
> No, not even that. What it is is this:
>
> You have 3 msgs, 1, 2, and 3. 1 is the oldest, 3 is the newest.
> Previously if you sorted with newest at the bottom and delete 2, then
> 1 (the older message) would be automatically selected. If you sorted
> with the newest at the top and you deleted 2, then 3 (the newest)
> would get selected.
>
> With version 3.13.0, regardless of which way you sort, if you delete
> 2, 1, the oldest, gets selected.
>
> with regards
>
> Paul
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:58:28 +0200
> From: Ralf Mardorf To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] How do i enable top-posting in response emails?
> Message-ID: <20151013165828.267136d0 at archlinux.localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:50:44 +0200, Patrick Boettcher wrote:
>> I would not assume that someone using a .de-address as sender is from
>> Germany (especially when it's posteo.de)
>
> The OP's name spelling is the same spelling as my name's spelling.
>
> Ralf
>
> I suspect that in most other countries the spelling more often is
>
> Ralph
>
> That's the reason that I wrote that the "OP seems to be from Germany".
>                                             ^^^^^
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:22:37 +0200
> From: "H.Merijn Brand" To: Patrick Boettcher

> Cc: users at lists.claws-mail.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] How do i enable top-posting in response emails?
> Message-ID: <20151013172237.62a446c4 at pc09.procura.nl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:50:44 +0200, Patrick Boettcher
>
  wrote:
>
>>> Sometimes business people ask to quote the complete correspondence. 
>>> If
>>> you would bottom post, they won't read the mail, because they think 
>>> you
>>> didn't answer. It's expected that replies are on top, followed by 
>>> tons
>>> of older messages, including all that grotesque signatures that are
>>> three times as long as the message bodies are.
>
> and what about the complete stack of company logo's (multi-fold, as 
> all
> replyers add their own set), smiley gifs, jpegs for twitter, facebook
> and other shit and worse, advertisements!
>
>> I can confirm this reasoning. In addition this flow makes threading
>> quite unuseful - sometimes.
>
> Even when people expect me to do top-posting, I do so with just a
> single line as top-post:
>
> "I have answers to all your questions. Read them below the questions 
> you
>  asked in your ridiculously long mail (from which I stripped all 
> useless
>  company logo's and signatures)"
>
> Then I reply as usual. If they still don't get it, its their fault, 
> not
> mine.
>
> -- 
> H.Merijn Brand  http://tux.nl   Perl Monger  http://amsterdam.pm.org/
> using perl5.00307 .. 5.21   porting perl5 on HP-UX, AIX, and openSUSE
> http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/        http://www.test-smoke.org/
> http://qa.perl.org   http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/
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> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:34:09 +0200
> From: Ralf Mardorf To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] How do i enable top-posting in response emails?
> Message-ID: <20151013173409.6c8aae77 at archlinux.localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:22:37 +0200, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:50:44 +0200, Patrick Boettcher
>>
  wrote:
>>
>>>> Sometimes business people ask to quote the complete
>>>> correspondence. If you would bottom post, they won't read the
>>>> mail, because they think you didn't answer. It's expected that
>>>> replies are on top, followed by tons of older messages, including
>>>> all that grotesque signatures that are three times as long as the
>>>> message bodies are.
>>
>> and what about the complete stack of company logo's (multi-fold, as 
>> all
>> replyers add their own set), smiley gifs, jpegs for twitter, facebook
>> and other shit and worse, advertisements!
>
> and http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/
>
> That's why I used the word "grotesque". This are the signatures I'm
> talking about. I usually cut it and I bet nobody notices, since nobody
> will read the quoted mails.
>
>>> I can confirm this reasoning. In addition this flow makes threading
>>> quite unuseful - sometimes.
>>
>> Even when people expect me to do top-posting, I do so with just a
>> single line as top-post:
>>
>> "I have answers to all your questions. Read them below the questions
>> you asked in your ridiculously long mail (from which I stripped all
>> useless company logo's and signatures)"
>>
>> Then I reply as usual. If they still don't get it, its their fault, 
>> not
>> mine.
>
> This is what I often do too, but if I want my money back, a good job 
> or
> something similar, I prefer that they get it ;).
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 09:49:58 -0700
> From: Chad Wallace To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] Version 3.13
> Message-ID: <20151013094958.6f2ab2e2 at ws78.int.tlc>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 15:55:46 +0100
> Paul  wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 15:47:23 +0100
>> Brian Morrison  wrote:
>>> That isn't what happened. The previous behaviour happened to work
>>> for both sort orders, the new behaviour only works as expected for
>>> one.
>>
>> No, not even that. What it is is this:
>>
>> You have 3 msgs, 1, 2, and 3. 1 is the oldest, 3 is the newest.
>> Previously if you sorted with newest at the bottom and delete 2, then
>> 1 (the older message) would be automatically selected. If you sorted
>> with the newest at the top and you deleted 2, then 3 (the newest)
>> would get selected.
>>
>> With version 3.13.0, regardless of which way you sort, if you delete
>> 2, 1, the oldest, gets selected.
>
> Sorry, I'm coming in pretty late on this thread (and I don't have 3.13
> anyway), but 2 cents is 2 cents! :-)
> It would make more sense to me if it would select the newest one, so 3
> in your example.  Or, perhaps it could select a message based on the
> setting for "default selection when entering a folder" in the
> Display/Summaries preferences.
>
>
> -- 
>
> C. Chad Wallace, B.Sc.
> The Lodging Company
> http://www.lodgingcompany.com/
> OpenPGP Public Key ID: 0x262208A0
>
>
>
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Oct 14 14:57:54 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 13:57:54 +0100
Subject: [Users] unsubscribe
In-Reply-To: <30ba9b58.22039.150666620ab.Webtop.55@optonline.net>
References: <mailman.178.1444755012.25613.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
 <30ba9b58.22039.150666620ab.Webtop.55@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <20151014135754.08b5d85d@kujata.lan>

You are sending your unsubscribe request to the wrong address.
Use this: users-request at lists.claws-mail.org?subject=unsubscribe

regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Oct 14 15:32:20 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 13:32:20 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3535] Scrolling Inactive Windows When Hovering over
 Them Does Not Work When Claws Is Frontmost Application
In-Reply-To: <bug-3535-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3535-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3535-595-HArvtsM9C3@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3535

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
This may be an issue common with GTK+ applications on Windows in general. Alas,
I do not have access to any Win10 machine, so I don't think I will be able to
do anything about it anytime soon.

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Wed Oct 14 19:49:45 2015
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 18:49:45 +0100
Subject: [Users] Build problems with recent git versions
Message-ID: <20151014184945.00000ea2@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

When I try to build an rpm with the latest git version I am seeing this
error:

+ autoreconf
configure.ac:49: warning: AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE: two- and three-arguments forms are deprecated.  For more info, see:
configure.ac:49: http://www.gnu.org/software/automake/manual/automake.html#Modernize-AM_005fINIT_005fAUTOMAKE-invocation
configure.ac:1877: error: required file 'manual/pl/Makefile.in' not found
configure.ac:1877: error: required file 'manual/pl/dist/Makefile.in' not found
configure.ac:1877: error: required file 'manual/pl/dist/pdf/Makefile.in' not found
configure.ac:1877: error: required file 'manual/pl/dist/ps/Makefile.in' not found
configure.ac:1877: error: required file 'manual/pl/dist/html/Makefile.in' not found
configure.ac:1877: error: required file 'manual/pl/dist/txt/Makefile.in' not found
configure.ac:1877: error: required file 'manual/de/Makefile.in' not found
configure.ac:1877: error: required file 'manual/de/dist/Makefile.in' not found
configure.ac:1877: error: required file 'manual/de/dist/pdf/Makefile.in' not found
configure.ac:1877: error: required file 'manual/de/dist/ps/Makefile.in' not found
configure.ac:1877: error: required file 'manual/de/dist/html/Makefile.in' not found
configure.ac:1877: error: required file 'manual/de/dist/txt/Makefile.in' not found
src/Makefile.am:26: warning: '%'-style pattern rules are a GNU make extension
src/Makefile.am:543: warning: ':='-style assignments are not portable
src/Makefile.am:545: warning: ':='-style assignments are not portable
src/plugins/address_keeper/Makefile.am:20: warning: '%'-style pattern rules are a GNU make extension
src/plugins/att_remover/Makefile.am:20: warning: '%'-style pattern rules are a GNU make extension
src/plugins/attachwarner/Makefile.am:20: warning: '%'-style pattern rules are a GNU make extension
src/plugins/bsfilter/Makefile.am:20: warning: '%'-style pattern rules are a GNU make extension
src/plugins/fancy/Makefile.am:20: warning: '%'-style pattern rules are a GNU make extension
src/plugins/fetchinfo/Makefile.am:12: warning: '%'-style pattern rules are a GNU make extension
src/plugins/libravatar/Makefile.am:20: warning: '%'-style pattern rules are a GNU make extension
src/plugins/mailmbox/Makefile.am:20: warning: '%'-style pattern rules are a GNU make extension
src/plugins/managesieve/Makefile.am:20: warning: '%'-style pattern rules are a GNU make extension
src/plugins/notification/Makefile.am:31: warning: '%'-style pattern rules are a GNU make extension
src/plugins/notification/Makefile.am:16: warning: 'CFLAGS' is a user variable, you should not override it;
src/plugins/notification/Makefile.am:16: use 'AM_CFLAGS' instead
src/plugins/pgpcore/Makefile.am:20: warning: '%'-style pattern rules are a GNU make extension
src/plugins/pgpinline/Makefile.am:20: warning: '%'-style pattern rules are a GNU make extension
src/plugins/pgpmime/Makefile.am:20: warning: '%'-style pattern rules are a GNU make extension
src/plugins/rssyl/Makefile.am:22: warning: '%'-style pattern rules are a GNU make extension
src/plugins/smime/Makefile.am:20: warning: '%'-style pattern rules are a GNU make extension
src/plugins/spam_report/Makefile.am:20: warning: '%'-style pattern rules are a GNU make extension
src/plugins/tnef_parse/Makefile.am:14: warning: '%'-style pattern rules are a GNU make extension
src/plugins/vcalendar/Makefile.am:20: warning: '%'-style pattern rules are a GNU make extension
autoreconf: automake failed with exit status: 1
error: Bad exit status from /home/bdm/rpmbuild/tmp/rpm-tmp.pCFPyd (%prep)


RPM build errors:
    Bad exit status from /home/bdm/rpmbuild/tmp/rpm-tmp.pCFPyd (%prep)
[bdm at peterson SPECS]$

Everything was OK until after 3.13.0git1 but from git4 onwards I can't
get past this point.

Any clues from the auto tool cognoscenti?

-- 

Brian Morrison


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Oct 14 20:12:03 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:12:03 +0100
Subject: [Users] Build problems with recent git versions
In-Reply-To: <20151014184945.00000ea2@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20151014184945.00000ea2@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20151014191203.4fd66fbf@kujata.lan>

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 18:49:45 +0100
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote: 

> Any clues from the auto tool cognoscenti?

Probably you need to re-run ./autogen.sh.

with regards

Paul


From renato.pontefice at gmail.com  Wed Oct 14 21:52:32 2015
From: renato.pontefice at gmail.com (renato)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:52:32 +0200
Subject: [Users] how can I see HTML messages?
Message-ID: <20151014215232.7bd44ea6@portren.station>

Hi,
first of all, I'm writing from Claws mail (3.12) from My Debian PC.

I receive some HTML messages, I woul know, how can I see them (I mean
with image and formatted). I think I should install a plugin. Is it? if
yes, wich one? And how can I do that?

TIA

Renato


From mir at miras.org  Wed Oct 14 21:59:35 2015
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:59:35 +0200
Subject: [Users] how can I see HTML messages?
In-Reply-To: <20151014215232.7bd44ea6@portren.station>
References: <20151014215232.7bd44ea6@portren.station>
Message-ID: <26A20AF7-7026-46A2-BCE0-7674BCECCADB@miras.org>

The plugin you looking after is called fancy.

On October 14, 2015 9:52:32 PM GMT+02:00, renato <renato.pontefice at gmail.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>first of all, I'm writing from Claws mail (3.12) from My Debian PC.
>
>I receive some HTML messages, I woul know, how can I see them (I mean
>with image and formatted). I think I should install a plugin. Is it? if
>yes, wich one? And how can I do that?
>
>TIA
>
>Renato
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>Users at lists.claws-mail.org
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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Wed Oct 14 22:04:03 2015
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:04:03 +0100
Subject: [Users] how can I see HTML messages?
In-Reply-To: <20151014215232.7bd44ea6@portren.station>
References: <20151014215232.7bd44ea6@portren.station>
Message-ID: <20151014210403.79ee15fa@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:52:32 +0200
renato <renato.pontefice at gmail.com> wrote:

Hello renato,

>I receive some HTML messages, I woul know, how can I see them (I mean
>with image and formatted). I think I should install a plugin. Is it? if
>yes, wich one? And how can I do that?

Install the Fancy HTML viewer.  To do so, select "Plugins..." from the
Configuration menu.  From there, click "load" and then load the plugin
named fancy.so

Once loaded, you can click on the HTML icon at the side of emails with
an HTML part, to view it fully.  You may wish to alter default settings
by going to Configuration menu, Preferences.../Plugins/Fancy and set
them to whatever you desire.

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From heitorpbittencourt at gmail.com  Wed Oct 14 23:16:08 2015
From: heitorpbittencourt at gmail.com (Heitor)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 00:16:08 +0300
Subject: [Users] how can I see HTML messages?
In-Reply-To: <20151014210403.79ee15fa@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20151014215232.7bd44ea6@portren.station>
 <20151014210403.79ee15fa@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20151015001608.2062aa40@freyja.localdomain>

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:04:03 +0100
Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:52:32 +0200
> renato <renato.pontefice at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello renato,
> 
> >I receive some HTML messages, I woul know, how can I see them (I mean
> >with image and formatted). I think I should install a plugin. Is it?
> >if yes, wich one? And how can I do that?  
> 
> Install the Fancy HTML viewer.  To do so, select "Plugins..." from the
> Configuration menu.  From there, click "load" and then load the plugin
> named fancy.so
> 
> Once loaded, you can click on the HTML icon at the side of emails with
> an HTML part, to view it fully.  You may wish to alter default
> settings by going to Configuration menu, Preferences.../Plugins/Fancy
> and set them to whatever you desire.
> 

You will need webkitgtk2 to use Fancy plugin. At least if you are using
Linux. It might be already installed as a dependency.

If it is not installed, Claws will show you a error about it.


From edwardp at openmailbox.org  Thu Oct 15 00:46:17 2015
From: edwardp at openmailbox.org (edwardp at openmailbox.org)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 18:46:17 -0400
Subject: [Users] Incomplete uninstall of 3.13.0-1 Windows
Message-ID: <20151014184617.000006f0@openmailbox.org>

Upon uninstalling 3.13.0-1 on Windows Vista 32-bit, the Claws Mail
desktop shortcut was not removed during the uninstall process, nor
would it delete from the desktop.

Then upon installing 3.13.0-2, the Claws Mail desktop shortcut blinked
once during the install process, but the shortcut otherwise works.





From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Thu Oct 15 01:02:27 2015
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 00:02:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] Build problems with recent git versions
In-Reply-To: <20151014191203.4fd66fbf@kujata.lan>
References: <20151014184945.00000ea2@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20151014191203.4fd66fbf@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <561EDF03.7050303@fenrir.org.uk>

On 14-Oct-15 7:12 PM, Paul wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 18:49:45 +0100
> Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Any clues from the auto tool cognoscenti?
>
> Probably you need to re-run ./autogen.sh.

I do a make distclean && ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr && make dist

I tried a make clean too.

Doesn't help. Maybe I should re-clone the whole tree.

-- 

Brian Morrison


From andrej at kacian.sk  Thu Oct 15 01:04:15 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 01:04:15 +0200
Subject: [Users] Incomplete uninstall of 3.13.0-1 Windows
In-Reply-To: <20151014184617.000006f0@openmailbox.org>
References: <20151014184617.000006f0@openmailbox.org>
Message-ID: <20151015010415.3c02b8fd@penny>

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 18:46:17 -0400
<edwardp at openmailbox.org> wrote:

> Upon uninstalling 3.13.0-1 on Windows Vista 32-bit, the Claws Mail
> desktop shortcut was not removed during the uninstall process, nor
> would it delete from the desktop.
> 
> Then upon installing 3.13.0-2, the Claws Mail desktop shortcut blinked
> once during the install process, but the shortcut otherwise works.

Hi,

between 3.13.0-1 and 3.13.0-2, nothing changed regarding the desktop
shortcut. Does it still leave the shortcut on your desktop if you
uninstall -2 ?

The shortcut blinked probably because it was overwritten by the install
process.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From mir at miras.org  Thu Oct 15 01:07:36 2015
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 01:07:36 +0200
Subject: [Users] Build problems with recent git versions
In-Reply-To: <561EDF03.7050303@fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20151014184945.00000ea2@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20151014191203.4fd66fbf@kujata.lan>
 <561EDF03.7050303@fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20151015010736.1c1218d3@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 00:02:27 +0100
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

> 
> I do a make distclean && ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr && make dist
> 
> I tried a make clean too.
> 
> Doesn't help. Maybe I should re-clone the whole tree.
> 
Try: make maintainer-clean

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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Thu Oct 15 01:56:13 2015
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 00:56:13 +0100
Subject: [Users] Build problems with recent git versions
In-Reply-To: <20151015010736.1c1218d3@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20151014184945.00000ea2@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20151014191203.4fd66fbf@kujata.lan>
 <561EDF03.7050303@fenrir.org.uk>
 <20151015010736.1c1218d3@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20151015005613.74887084@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 01:07:36 +0200
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 00:02:27 +0100
> Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I do a make distclean && ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr && make dist
> > 
> > I tried a make clean too.
> > 
> > Doesn't help. Maybe I should re-clone the whole tree.
> >   
> Try: make maintainer-clean
> 

That didn't work either, I get exactly the same failure of autoreconf


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                "I am not young enough to know everything"
                                                          Oscar Wilde


From edwardp at openmailbox.org  Thu Oct 15 02:31:33 2015
From: edwardp at openmailbox.org (edwardp at openmailbox.org)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:31:33 -0400
Subject: [Users] Incomplete uninstall of 3.13.0-1 Windows
In-Reply-To: <20151015010415.3c02b8fd@penny>
References: <20151014184617.000006f0@openmailbox.org>
 <20151015010415.3c02b8fd@penny>
Message-ID: <20151014203133.000023e8@openmailbox.org>

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 01:04:15 +0200
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 18:46:17 -0400
> <edwardp at openmailbox.org> wrote:
> 
> > Upon uninstalling 3.13.0-1 on Windows Vista 32-bit, the Claws Mail
> > desktop shortcut was not removed during the uninstall process, nor
> > would it delete from the desktop.
> > 
> > Then upon installing 3.13.0-2, the Claws Mail desktop shortcut
> > blinked once during the install process, but the shortcut otherwise
> > works.  
> 
> Hi,
> 
> between 3.13.0-1 and 3.13.0-2, nothing changed regarding the desktop
> shortcut. Does it still leave the shortcut on your desktop if you
> uninstall -2 ?
> 
> The shortcut blinked probably because it was overwritten by the
> install process.
> 
> Regards,

Hi Andrej,

Upon uninstalling -2, it removed the desktop shortcut.



From edwardp at openmailbox.org  Thu Oct 15 02:34:58 2015
From: edwardp at openmailbox.org (edwardp at openmailbox.org)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:34:58 -0400
Subject: [Users] Account name colors
In-Reply-To: <20151013210655.6ff20bdc@pfortin.com>
References: <20151013195436.0f71bcb7@openmailbox.org>
 <20151013210655.6ff20bdc@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20151014203458.0000150a@openmailbox.org>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 21:06:55 -0400
Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 19:54:36 -0400 edwardp at openmailbox.org wrote:
> 
> >I've noticed with Claws Mail that when new emails come in (via IMAP),
> >the account title for some accounts becomes bolded in blue and others
> >are bolded in black.
> >
> >Is there any particular reason for the different colors?  
> 
> New mail & unread mail will bold-color the folder(s).

Thank you.

It's always a Gmail account name that bolds in black, the others are
blue. This could be due to the numerous other IMAP folders that Gmail
uses.



From pf at pfortin.com  Thu Oct 15 03:43:22 2015
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:43:22 -0400
Subject: [Users] Account name colors
In-Reply-To: <20151014203458.0000150a@openmailbox.org>
References: <20151013195436.0f71bcb7@openmailbox.org>
 <20151013210655.6ff20bdc@pfortin.com>
 <20151014203458.0000150a@openmailbox.org>
Message-ID: <20151014214322.49f5772e@pfortin.com>

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:34:58 -0400 edwardp at openmailbox.org wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 21:06:55 -0400
>Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 19:54:36 -0400 edwardp at openmailbox.org wrote:
>>   
>> >I've noticed with Claws Mail that when new emails come in (via IMAP),
>> >the account title for some accounts becomes bolded in blue and others
>> >are bolded in black.
>> >
>> >Is there any particular reason for the different colors?    
>> 
>> New mail & unread mail will bold-color the folder(s).  
>
>Thank you.
>
>It's always a Gmail account name that bolds in black, the others are
>blue. This could be due to the numerous other IMAP folders that Gmail
>uses.

I don't use IMAP; but have seen comments stating gmail/IMAP only shows
read & unread, not new statuses.


From signorinimatteo at gmail.com  Thu Oct 15 08:01:44 2015
From: signorinimatteo at gmail.com (Matteo Signorini)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 08:01:44 +0200
Subject: [Users] GData not writing cache
Message-ID: <20151015080144.730edee9@S430>

I am having the following error with GData which prevent my contacts to
be written in the address book:

addressbook.c:4364:Saving address books...
addressbook.c:4367:Exporting addressbook to file...
plugin.c:288:removing /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/gdata.so rdeps
cm_gdata_contacts.c:247:GData plugin error: Wrote cache to file
gdata_cache.xml gdata_plugin.c:65:Saving GData plugin configuration...
prefs.c:310:Found [GDataPlugin]
gdata_plugin.c:85:done.
gdata_plugin.c:148:GData plugin unloaded


Anybody knows how to fix this?
Thanks


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct 15 08:13:51 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:13:51 +0100
Subject: [Users] GData not writing cache
In-Reply-To: <20151015080144.730edee9@S430>
References: <20151015080144.730edee9@S430>
Message-ID: <20151015071351.79c5d6b9@kujata.lan>

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 08:01:44 +0200
Matteo Signorini <signorinimatteo at gmail.com> wrote: 

> cm_gdata_contacts.c:247:GData plugin error: Wrote cache to file

The only error here is the inclusion of the word 'error' in that
debug output. "Wrote cache to file" means that it was successful.

with regards

Paul


From signorinimatteo at gmail.com  Thu Oct 15 08:16:16 2015
From: signorinimatteo at gmail.com (Matteo Signorini)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 08:16:16 +0200
Subject: [Users] GData not writing cache
In-Reply-To: <20151015071351.79c5d6b9@kujata.lan>
References: <20151015080144.730edee9@S430> <20151015071351.79c5d6b9@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20151015081616.7bb2e378@S430>

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:13:51 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 08:01:44 +0200
> Matteo Signorini <signorinimatteo at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> > cm_gdata_contacts.c:247:GData plugin error: Wrote cache to file
> 
> The only error here is the inclusion of the word 'error' in that
> debug output. "Wrote cache to file" means that it was successful.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

But then....why I have always the same log when I run claws (as if I download always the same contacts) whilst my address book is always empty?

Thanks for the quick reply
Mat


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct 15 08:22:22 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:22:22 +0100
Subject: [Users] GData not writing cache
In-Reply-To: <20151015081616.7bb2e378@S430>
References: <20151015080144.730edee9@S430> <20151015071351.79c5d6b9@kujata.lan>
 <20151015081616.7bb2e378@S430>
Message-ID: <20151015072222.4978ff18@kujata.lan>

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 08:16:16 +0200
Matteo Signorini <signorinimatteo at gmail.com> wrote: 

> But then....why I have always the same log when I run claws (as if
> I download always the same contacts) whilst my address book is
> always empty?

As you can read in the plugin's description:

"Currently, the only implemented functionality is to include
Google Contacts into the Tab-address completion."

Why are you expecting more?

with regards

Paul

PS
Please don't Cc me, you must be subscribed to post, therefore just
replying to the list is fine, and preferred.


From signorinimatteo at gmail.com  Thu Oct 15 08:25:06 2015
From: signorinimatteo at gmail.com (Matteo Signorini)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 08:25:06 +0200
Subject: [Users] GData not writing cache
In-Reply-To: <20151015072222.4978ff18@kujata.lan>
References: <20151015080144.730edee9@S430> <20151015071351.79c5d6b9@kujata.lan>
 <20151015081616.7bb2e378@S430> <20151015072222.4978ff18@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20151015082506.74f677e5@S430>

I am sorry, I dunno why I was expecting to have the addresses in the address book.
The tab-autocomplete is working.

Thank you


On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:22:22 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 08:16:16 +0200
> Matteo Signorini <signorinimatteo at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> > But then....why I have always the same log when I run claws (as if
> > I download always the same contacts) whilst my address book is
> > always empty?
> 
> As you can read in the plugin's description:
> 
> "Currently, the only implemented functionality is to include
> Google Contacts into the Tab-address completion."
> 
> Why are you expecting more?
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> 
> PS
> Please don't Cc me, you must be subscribed to post, therefore just
> replying to the list is fine, and preferred.
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct 15 08:39:03 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:39:03 +0100
Subject: [Users] Account name colors
In-Reply-To: <20151014203458.0000150a@openmailbox.org>
References: <20151013195436.0f71bcb7@openmailbox.org>
 <20151013210655.6ff20bdc@pfortin.com>
 <20151014203458.0000150a@openmailbox.org>
Message-ID: <20151015073903.3c4963d2@kujata.lan>

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:34:58 -0400
<edwardp at openmailbox.org> wrote: 

> It's always a Gmail account name that bolds in black, the others are
> blue. This could be due to the numerous other IMAP folders that
> Gmail uses.

bold/blue : new msgs
bold/black: unread msgs

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct 15 12:36:34 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:36:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3452] Ability to register as default email program
In-Reply-To: <bug-3452-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3452-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3452-595-2UvpkSJnMv@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3452

--- Comment #13 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
I'm not sure leaving it open will ever serve any purpose. See my comment #1 on
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2973

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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Thu Oct 15 12:40:20 2015
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 11:40:20 +0100
Subject: [Users] Build problems with recent git versions
In-Reply-To: <20151015005613.74887084@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20151014184945.00000ea2@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20151014191203.4fd66fbf@kujata.lan>
 <561EDF03.7050303@fenrir.org.uk>
 <20151015010736.1c1218d3@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20151015005613.74887084@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20151015114020.00003277@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 00:56:13 +0100
Brian Morrison wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 01:07:36 +0200
> Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 00:02:27 +0100
> > Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
> >   
> > > 
> > > I do a make distclean && ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr && make dist
> > > 
> > > I tried a make clean too.
> > > 
> > > Doesn't help. Maybe I should re-clone the whole tree.
> > >     
> > Try: make maintainer-clean
> >   
> 
> That didn't work either, I get exactly the same failure of autoreconf

This morning's commit to remove some file names from configure.ac fixed
it.

Thanks!

-- 

Brian Morrison


From clifflaine at europe.com  Thu Oct 15 12:53:37 2015
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 11:53:37 +0100
Subject: [Users] Incorrect time stamp
In-Reply-To: <20151013174236.4cb9ca14@multivac>
References: <20151013094136.6d0495f8@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20151013084818.52cc57f1@kujata.lan>
 <20151013101528.4f7fc937@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20151013174236.4cb9ca14@multivac>
Message-ID: <20151015115337.521e28be@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:42:36 +0300
moxalt <moxalt at riseup.net> wrote:

> 
> If you are running a Debian-based distribution, try running 'apt-get
> reconfigure tzdata' to reconfigure your timezone settings.


Thank you -- there was a setting in something called .../rcS in which a
clock setting has to be set to UTC in order to get the correct offsets
for every timezone.


From ricardo at mones.org  Thu Oct 15 13:00:30 2015
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:00:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] Build problems with recent git versions
In-Reply-To: <20151015114020.00003277@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20151014184945.00000ea2@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20151014191203.4fd66fbf@kujata.lan>
 <561EDF03.7050303@fenrir.org.uk>
 <20151015010736.1c1218d3@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20151015005613.74887084@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20151015114020.00003277@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20151015130030.405ed0d4@busgosu>

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 11:40:20 +0100
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 00:56:13 +0100
> Brian Morrison wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 01:07:36 +0200
> > Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 00:02:27 +0100
> > > Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
> > >     
> > > > 
> > > > I do a make distclean && ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr && make dist
> > > > 
> > > > I tried a make clean too.
> > > > 
> > > > Doesn't help. Maybe I should re-clone the whole tree.
> > > >       
> > > Try: make maintainer-clean
> > >     
> > 
> > That didn't work either, I get exactly the same failure of autoreconf  
> 
> This morning's commit to remove some file names from configure.ac fixed
> it.

Yep, the git deb autobuilder was also failing for the same cause ;)

> Thanks!

You're welcome!
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  ~
  You have the capacity to learn from mistakes. You'll learn a lot 
  today.                                           /usr/games/fortune

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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Thu Oct 15 13:03:52 2015
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 12:03:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] Build problems with recent git versions
In-Reply-To: <20151015130030.405ed0d4@busgosu>
References: <20151014184945.00000ea2@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20151014191203.4fd66fbf@kujata.lan>
 <561EDF03.7050303@fenrir.org.uk>
 <20151015010736.1c1218d3@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20151015005613.74887084@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20151015114020.00003277@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20151015130030.405ed0d4@busgosu>
Message-ID: <20151015120352.00005bd1@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:00:30 +0200
Ricardo Mones wrote:

> > This morning's commit to remove some file names from configure.ac
> > fixed it.  
> 
> Yep, the git deb autobuilder was also failing for the same cause ;)

The thing that confused me was that the missing files were simply shown
as a warning in the script output...

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From renato.pontefice at gmail.com  Thu Oct 15 19:01:11 2015
From: renato.pontefice at gmail.com (renato)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:01:11 +0200
Subject: [Users] how can I see HTML messages?
In-Reply-To: <20151015001608.2062aa40@freyja.localdomain>
References: <20151014215232.7bd44ea6@portren.station>
 <20151014210403.79ee15fa@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20151015001608.2062aa40@freyja.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20151015190111.579327d7@portren.station>

...and then load the
> > plugin named fancy.so

where do can I find it?
on /claws-mail-3.13.0/src/plugins/fancy$ , I've foud just a source
file, not a fancy.so.
How can obtain that?

TIA

Renato


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct 15 19:04:11 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 18:04:11 +0100
Subject: [Users] how can I see HTML messages?
In-Reply-To: <20151015190111.579327d7@portren.station>
References: <20151014215232.7bd44ea6@portren.station>
 <20151014210403.79ee15fa@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20151015001608.2062aa40@freyja.localdomain>
 <20151015190111.579327d7@portren.station>
Message-ID: <20151015180411.108b53ff@kujata.lan>

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:01:11 +0200
renato <renato.pontefice at gmail.com> wrote: 

> where do can I find it?
> on /claws-mail-3.13.0/src/plugins/fancy$ , I've foud just a source
> file, not a fancy.so.
> How can obtain that?

You said you're using debian. Look for the claws-mail-fancy-plugin
package.

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct 15 20:46:38 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 18:46:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3538] New: vCalendar displays time wrong and deferred
 by +2 hours
Message-ID: <bug-3538-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3538

            Bug ID: 3538
           Summary: vCalendar displays time wrong and deferred by +2 hours
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.13.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: major
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: tio.madrid at hotmail.com

Time zone difference between sender and receiver is wrongly processed by
claws-mail.

The invitation time is displayed in claws-mail vCalendar deferred by +2 hours.

Example: The invitation is for 11:15 and displayed in claws-mail vCalendar as
13:15.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct 15 21:11:30 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:11:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3539] New: Print job fails
Message-ID: <bug-3539-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3539

            Bug ID: 3539
           Summary: Print job fails
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.13.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: major
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: tio.madrid at hotmail.com

Claws-mail does not print. The print job does not show in the Windows 7 print
job queue. Nothing is being printed.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct 15 21:27:14 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:27:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3539] Print job fails
In-Reply-To: <bug-3539-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3539-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3539-595-e1KtAZoJxS@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3539

--- Comment #1 from daniel <daniel.hrbac at yahoo.com> ---
cannot confirm. I am printing daily. W10 + 3.13 + LAN printers.

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From renato.pontefice at gmail.com  Thu Oct 15 21:30:20 2015
From: renato.pontefice at gmail.com (renato)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 21:30:20 +0200
Subject: [Users] how can I see HTML messages?
In-Reply-To: <20151015180411.108b53ff@kujata.lan>
References: <20151014215232.7bd44ea6@portren.station>
 <20151014210403.79ee15fa@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20151015001608.2062aa40@freyja.localdomain>
 <20151015190111.579327d7@portren.station>
 <20151015180411.108b53ff@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20151015213020.71c55238@portren.station>

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 18:04:11 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:01:11 +0200
> renato <renato.pontefice at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> > where do can I find it?
> > on /claws-mail-3.13.0/src/plugins/fancy$ , I've foud just a source
> > file, not a fancy.so.
> > How can obtain that?
> 
> You said you're using debian. Look for the claws-mail-fancy-plugin
> package.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

yes!!! I've used apt-get install so, everythings goes well.

Thank you

Renato


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct 15 21:58:46 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:58:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3539] Print job fails
In-Reply-To: <bug-3539-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3539-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3539-595-gnUgbMebkc@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3539

--- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Did it work for you in Claws Mail 3.12 (if you used it)?

Could you run "claws-mail.exe --debug" try printing something, exit the
application and provide content of claws-win32.log from your account's Temp
folder? (The dir should be somewhere in your "Application Data" folder.)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct 16 00:57:13 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 22:57:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3538] vCalendar displays time wrong and deferred by +2
	hours
In-Reply-To: <bug-3538-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3538-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3538-595-hbXVdxUhIH@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3538

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 3427 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct 16 00:57:13 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 22:57:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3427] Timezone of start/finish time is not taken into
	account
In-Reply-To: <bug-3427-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3427-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3427-595-2pWiXT2Bdh@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3427

--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
*** Bug 3538 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From claws-mail_user at thehugheslogcabin.net  Fri Oct 16 04:07:41 2015
From: claws-mail_user at thehugheslogcabin.net (Michael Hughes)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 21:07:41 -0500
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.13.0-2 for Windows unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20151014115104.00002ff1@kacian.sk>
References: <20151014115104.00002ff1@kacian.sk>
Message-ID: <20151015210741.161d3eda@thehugheslogcabin.net>

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 11:51:04 +0200
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> 14th October 2015                                     Claws Mail
> 3.13.0-2
> 
>               CLAWS MAIL FOR WINDOWS RELEASE NOTES
>                 http://www.claws-mail.org/win32

Compiled on FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE-p36

Claws Mail version 3.13.0git13
runtime GTK+ 2.24.22 / GLib 2.42.1
buildtime GTK+ 2.24.22 / GLib 2.42.1
Compiled-in features:
 Enchant
 GnuTLS
 IPv6
 iconv
 LDAP
 libetpan 1.6
 libSM

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From richardkimber at btinternet.com  Fri Oct 16 16:28:51 2015
From: richardkimber at btinternet.com (R Kimber)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 15:28:51 +0100
Subject: [Users] how can I see HTML messages?
In-Reply-To: <20151015190111.579327d7@portren.station>
References: <20151014215232.7bd44ea6@portren.station>
 <20151014210403.79ee15fa@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20151015001608.2062aa40@freyja.localdomain>
 <20151015190111.579327d7@portren.station>
Message-ID: <561CD2CD0065798A@rgout01.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk> (added by
 postmaster@btinternet.com)


> ...and then load the
> > > plugin named fancy.so

Is it configurable so that messages are in text by default, but can switch
to html when desired?  At the moment all html messages are displayed as
such by default.

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From myetto1 at nycap.rr.com  Fri Oct 16 16:56:30 2015
From: myetto1 at nycap.rr.com (Michael A. Yetto)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:56:30 -0400
Subject: [Users] how can I see HTML messages?
In-Reply-To: <561CD2CD0065798A@rgout01.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
References: <20151014215232.7bd44ea6@portren.station>
 <20151014210403.79ee15fa@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20151015001608.2062aa40@freyja.localdomain>
 <20151015190111.579327d7@portren.station>
 <561CD2CD0065798A@rgout01.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20151016105630.23eaeed4@Braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 15:28:51 +0100
R Kimber <richardkimber at btinternet.com> wrote:

>
>> ...and then load the
>> > > plugin named fancy.so
>
>Is it configurable so that messages are in text by default, but
>can switch to html when desired?  At the moment all html
>messages are displayed as such by default.
>

This can be set for each folder with the Properties in the
context menu for the folder.

Mike Yetto
-- 
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absence of good grounds for belief, he will be satisfied with
bad ones."
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct 16 17:08:09 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 16:08:09 +0100
Subject: [Users] how can I see HTML messages?
In-Reply-To: <561CD2CD0065798A@rgout01.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
References: <20151014215232.7bd44ea6@portren.station>
 <20151014210403.79ee15fa@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20151015001608.2062aa40@freyja.localdomain>
 <20151015190111.579327d7@portren.station>
 <561CD2CD0065798A@rgout01.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20151016160809.66035b29@kujata.lan>

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 15:28:51 +0100
R Kimber <richardkimber at btinternet.com> wrote: 

> Is it configurable so that messages are in text by default, but can
> switch to html when desired?  At the moment all html messages are
> displayed as such by default.

See the 'HTML messages' frame on the 
'/Configuration/Preferences/Message View/Text Options' page

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct 16 20:38:26 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 18:38:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3539] Print job fails
In-Reply-To: <bug-3539-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3539-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3539-595-a8QCjWky69@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3539

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Log

Log was found in C:\user\AppData\Roaming\Claws-Mail\tmp

Debug was started in CMD at C:\Program Files (x86)\Claws-Mail>claws-mail.exe
--debug

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From edodd55 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 17 10:49:47 2015
From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 19:49:47 +1100
Subject: [Users] How do i enable top-posting in response emails?
In-Reply-To: <20151013172237.62a446c4@pc09.procura.nl>
References: <20151012195823.355a3691@Trimini>
 <20151013171853.1e7641ea@multivac>
 <20151013163316.46078f22@archlinux.localdomain>
 <20151013165044.03b77d09@dibcom294.coe.adi.dibcom.com>
 <20151013172237.62a446c4@pc09.procura.nl>
Message-ID: <20151017194947.54b2eadf.edodd55@gmail.com>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:22:37 +0200
"H.Merijn Brand" <h.m.brand at xs4all.nl> wrote:

> Even when people expect me to do top-posting, I do so with just a
> single line as top-post:
> 
> "I have answers to all your questions. Read them below the questions
> you asked in your ridiculously long mail (from which I stripped all
> useless company logo's and signatures)"
> 
> Then I reply as usual. If they still don't get it, its their fault,
> not mine.

thanks Merijn
I like that idea.

Liz
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From clawsmailuser at gmail.com  Sat Oct 17 11:09:56 2015
From: clawsmailuser at gmail.com (Claws mail user)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 10:09:56 +0100
Subject: [Users] Some URLs will not open in viewer
Message-ID: <20151017100956.4867ef46@Spare-room.home>

In Claws mail v. 3.13.0 some URLs in HTML emails will open a Web page
in the viewer and some won't. This is using the Fancy plugin with the
option "Open in viewer (remote content is enabled)" selected.
Everything else is enabled: display images, execute java script,execute
java applets, render objects using plugins. I'm not sure I can see any
common thread amongst the links that will work with the viewer and those
that won't. If you right click on a link which won't display in the
viewer and choose "Open in browser" this pretty much always seems to
work. Is there a reason for this or a configuration option which will
fix it? Many thanks    







From clawsmailuser at gmail.com  Sat Oct 17 15:09:50 2015
From: clawsmailuser at gmail.com (Claws mail user)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 14:09:50 +0100
Subject: [Users] Some URLs will not open in viewer
In-Reply-To: <20151017100956.4867ef46@Spare-room.home>
References: <20151017100956.4867ef46@Spare-room.home>
Message-ID: <20151017140950.16971d7a@Spare-room.home>

Sometimes also a direct click onto a link will open up the page at
other times a direct click won't work but a right-click and "open in
viewer" will work  

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 10:09:56 +0100
Claws mail user <clawsmailuser at gmail.com> wrote:

> In Claws mail v. 3.13.0 some URLs in HTML emails will open a Web page
> in the viewer and some won't. This is using the Fancy plugin with the
> option "Open in viewer (remote content is enabled)" selected.
> Everything else is enabled: display images, execute java
> script,execute java applets, render objects using plugins. I'm not
> sure I can see any common thread amongst the links that will work
> with the viewer and those that won't. If you right click on a link
> which won't display in the viewer and choose "Open in browser" this
> pretty much always seems to work. Is there a reason for this or a
> configuration option which will fix it? Many thanks    
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Oct 17 16:46:49 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 14:46:49 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3465] add libappindicator support to notification
	plugin
In-Reply-To: <bug-3465-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3465-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3465-595-iV6RS3MGHM@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3465

--- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
One technical hurdle to overcome is that appindicator does not allow for custom
icons from XPM inline in the code, but one has to install an icon file
somewhere, and point the library to that path. See
http://askubuntu.com/questions/108522/how-to-use-custom-icon-in-an-appindicator
:
  After calling set_icon_theme_path you can reference your-icon.png under the
"icon name" your-icon.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Oct 17 21:35:54 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 19:35:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3465] add libappindicator support to notification
	plugin
In-Reply-To: <bug-3465-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3465-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3465-595-i6iuFcwILl@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3465

--- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Good news at least for Debian users, the old-style tray icons will be supported
in KDE5 for the foreseeable future, see
https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/1827691445107908 at web19m.yandex.ru

In the meantime, I have played with libappindicator a bit, and found out that
working with it is rather trivial, after you get after one or two initial
gotchas. What stopped me is code structure of the notification plugin, where I
am not entirely sure what is the best way to add libappindicator support.

Logically, this would go right next to notification_trayicon.[ch] as
notification_appindicator.[ch], but in notification_trayicon.[ch], there is a
lot of code around handling of popup menu and preparing message counts. I do
not want to duplicate that code, since that is a surefire way to maintainer's
nightmare.

I was able to separate the popup menu creation into a notification_core.c (I
think), but I am unsure of what to do with the rest. It would help if Holger
could have a look at it, and suggest best solution - he knows the
notification_plugin code best. :)

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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Sat Oct 17 22:37:23 2015
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 16:37:23 -0400
Subject: [Users] How to sort folder list case insensitively?
Message-ID: <20151017163723.3c42da43@mydesk.domain.cxm>

Hi all,

I just switched to Void Linux, so that now I have Claws 3.12.0 instead
of the much earlier version from Debian Wheezy. Everything's wonderful,
except all the folders starting with uppercase letters sort above all
the folders starting with lowercase letters, and my personal preference
is that they sort case insensitively.

How do I get my folders to sort case insensitively?

Thanks,

SteveT


From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Sat Oct 17 22:40:01 2015
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 16:40:01 -0400
Subject: [Users] How to use color and font to separate read from unread
	messages?
Message-ID: <20151017164001.63200e7d@mydesk.domain.cxm>

Hi all,

When I used Claws-Mail on Debian Wheezy, I was able to specifically set
the color and font of read and unread messages in the message list. Now
that I've switched to Void Linux and have Claws 3.12.0, I can't find a
way to do so.

Does anyone know how to color and enlarge read vs unread messages in
the message list?

Thanks,

SteveT


From andrej at kacian.sk  Sat Oct 17 22:57:12 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 22:57:12 +0200
Subject: [Users] How to use color and font to separate read from unread
 messages?
In-Reply-To: <20151017164001.63200e7d@mydesk.domain.cxm>
References: <20151017164001.63200e7d@mydesk.domain.cxm>
Message-ID: <20151017225712.303b592e@penny>

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 16:40:01 -0400
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

> When I used Claws-Mail on Debian Wheezy, I was able to specifically set
> the color and font of read and unread messages in the message list. Now
> that I've switched to Void Linux and have Claws 3.12.0, I can't find a
> way to do so.
> 
> Does anyone know how to color and enlarge read vs unread messages in
> the message list?

Folders with unread messages will always be bold black, I think, but
you can set color of folders with unread _and_ new messages in common
preferences on Display->Colors page, "Other" tab.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sat Oct 17 23:01:39 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 23:01:39 +0200
Subject: [Users] How to sort folder list case insensitively?
In-Reply-To: <20151017163723.3c42da43@mydesk.domain.cxm>
References: <20151017163723.3c42da43@mydesk.domain.cxm>
Message-ID: <20151017230139.00a6af5a@moonstudio>

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 16:37:23 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>How do I get my folders to sort case insensitively?

Did you consider to rename the folders and to begin the new names with
a number?

For example

1 Office
2 Linux mailing lists

so the letters become unimportant.

Regards,
Ralf


From talk at advokati.biz  Sat Oct 17 23:10:04 2015
From: talk at advokati.biz (Daniel =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Hrb=E1=E8?=)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 23:10:04 +0200
Subject: [Users] Printing message in black - preserving printer system
	preferences
Message-ID: <20151017231004.0000272a@advokati.biz>

Windows 10, claws 3.13

Good evening, 

when message contains cited text or link it is by default shown in blue
color, email addresses are green, etc. When message is printed, these
colors are sent to printer and in case of one printer - Lexmark pro901
- the default setting set by system are overridden and printout is set
  as color. 

When I do turn off use of colors in claws settings, the print is only
black and white. Also this does not happen with Oki MC351, which is
also set by system to print in black only and when email from claws is
printed it is B&W only. 

Is there somewhere a setting to tell claws-mail to print only in
BW/grayscale?

thanks,

Daniel


From andrej at kacian.sk  Sat Oct 17 23:18:28 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 23:18:28 +0200
Subject: [Users] How to sort folder list case insensitively?
In-Reply-To: <20151017163723.3c42da43@mydesk.domain.cxm>
References: <20151017163723.3c42da43@mydesk.domain.cxm>
Message-ID: <20151017231828.0bb5895f@penny>

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 16:37:23 -0400
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

> Everything's wonderful,except all the folders starting with uppercase
> letters sort above allthe folders starting with lowercase letters

Are you sure you're not just seeing special folders placed above
everything else? Because that's what happens over here. Regular folders
are sorted without case sensitivity, IOW "foo" goes before "Goo".

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From andrej at kacian.sk  Sat Oct 17 23:41:14 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 23:41:14 +0200
Subject: [Users] Printing message in black - preserving printer system
 preferences
In-Reply-To: <20151017231004.0000272a@advokati.biz>
References: <20151017231004.0000272a@advokati.biz>
Message-ID: <20151017234114.55209f36@penny>

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 23:10:04 +0200
Daniel Hrbáč <talk at advokati.biz> wrote:

> Windows 10, claws 3.13
> 
> Good evening, 
> 
> when message contains cited text or link it is by default shown in blue
> color, email addresses are green, etc. When message is printed, these
> colors are sent to printer and in case of one printer - Lexmark pro901
> - the default setting set by system are overridden and printout is set
>   as color. 
> 
> When I do turn off use of colors in claws settings, the print is only
> black and white. Also this does not happen with Oki MC351, which is
> also set by system to print in black only and when email from claws is
> printed it is B&W only. 
> 
> Is there somewhere a setting to tell claws-mail to print only in
> BW/grayscale?

Hi,

there is a config value called "print_use_color", but its value is
provided to Claws Mail by underlying print system.

Whenever you run a print operation, a native printing dialog window is
being called. Naturally, it's different on each operating system, and
based on my testing, in Windows this dialog window is different from
printer to printer, so I guess it is provided by a corresponding
printer driver, or some sort of middleware above that driver.

When the print operation is done, the used print settings are passed
back to Claws Mail, which reads it, and stores some values in its own
configuration for future use, applying them to next printing operation.

Perhaps driver for your Lexmark printer does not handle this correctly.

What you can try is shutting down Claws Mail, modifying your "clawsrc"
file (mine is in c:\Users\myname\AppData\Roaming\Claws-mail) by setting
print_use_color to 0, and then trying to print from Claws Mail to your
Lexmark printer. That way, initial print settings are sent to the
printer driver asking it to not use color. What happens then is
entirely up to that driver.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From boxcars at gmx.net  Sun Oct 18 00:05:43 2015
From: boxcars at gmx.net (=?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?=)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 17:05:43 -0500
Subject: [Users] How to sort folder list case insensitively?
References: <20151017163723.3c42da43@mydesk.domain.cxm>
Message-ID: <20151017170543.24144210@sepulchrave.remarqs>

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 16:37:23 -0400
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

> I just switched to Void Linux, so that now I have Claws 3.12.0 instead
> of the much earlier version from Debian Wheezy. Everything's
> wonderful, except all the folders starting with uppercase letters
> sort above all the folders starting with lowercase letters, and my
> personal preference is that they sort case insensitively.
> 
> How do I get my folders to sort case insensitively?

If other programs (e.g. file managers, the ls command) exhibit the same
case-sensitive sorting behavior, it may be that your Void system has
the environment variable LC_COLLATE set to something undesirable.  IME,
leaving it unset causes most programs to sort case insensitively.

But if other programs are sorting things case insensitively already, my
post is probably just a red herring.



From emilyj at hiwaay.net  Sun Oct 18 00:22:50 2015
From: emilyj at hiwaay.net (Emily Jackson)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 17:22:50 -0500
Subject: [Users] Printing message in black - preserving printer system
 preferences
In-Reply-To: <20151017234114.55209f36@penny>
References: <20151017231004.0000272a@advokati.biz>
 <20151017234114.55209f36@penny>
Message-ID: <20151017172250.00001e20@hiwaay.net>

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 23:41:14 +0200
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> Whenever you run a print operation, a native printing dialog window is
> being called. Naturally, it's different on each operating system, and
> based on my testing, in Windows this dialog window is different from
> printer to printer, so I guess it is provided by a corresponding
> printer driver, or some sort of middleware above that driver.
> 
> When the print operation is done, the used print settings are passed
> back to Claws Mail, which reads it, and stores some values in its own
> configuration for future use, applying them to next printing
> operation.

I am also using Claws Mail with Windows 10, and I have an Epson
printer. When I printed e-mails form CM under Windows 7, they were
always B&W, but now that I have Windows 10, they print in color. So, it
must be a matter of the printer driver affecting the printout.

Emily


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Oct 18 00:27:11 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 22:27:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3539] Print job fails
In-Reply-To: <bug-3539-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3539-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3539-595-6CyuduYiKN@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3539

--- Comment #4 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
The attached file is 3 bytes large, and contains only one word, "foo".

Before printing, do you see a print dialog where you can select which printer
to use and other settings? If so, the fault is not in Claws Mail.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Oct 18 00:28:41 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 22:28:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3521] Mbox import from Thunderbird crashes on
	completion
In-Reply-To: <bug-3521-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3521-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3521-595-RK2GqGVxj8@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3521

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Can you provide an example mbox file with which Claws Mail crashes?

Also, does the issue still happen with Claws Mail 3.13.0?

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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Sun Oct 18 00:29:46 2015
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 18:29:46 -0400
Subject: [Users] How to sort folder list case insensitively?
In-Reply-To: <20151017230139.00a6af5a@moonstudio>
References: <20151017163723.3c42da43@mydesk.domain.cxm>
 <20151017230139.00a6af5a@moonstudio>
Message-ID: <20151017182946.49d42635@mydesk.domain.cxm>

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 23:01:39 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 16:37:23 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> >How do I get my folders to sort case insensitively?
> 
> Did you consider to rename the folders and to begin the new names with
> a number?
> 
> For example
> 
> 1 Office
> 2 Linux mailing lists
> 
> so the letters become unimportant.
> 
> Regards,
> Ralf

That's a kludge to consider only after I've been assured that Claws'
former behavior of being able to sort case insensitively is no longer
available in the application, and will not be brought back.

Also, that would involve a complete rearrangement of my Dovecot server
and my procmail recipes.

SteveT


From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Sun Oct 18 00:33:18 2015
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 18:33:18 -0400
Subject: [Users] How to sort folder list case insensitively?
In-Reply-To: <20151017231828.0bb5895f@penny>
References: <20151017163723.3c42da43@mydesk.domain.cxm>
 <20151017231828.0bb5895f@penny>
Message-ID: <20151017183318.3dd5c980@mydesk.domain.cxm>

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 23:18:28 +0200
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 16:37:23 -0400
> Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:
> 
> > Everything's wonderful,except all the folders starting with
> > uppercase letters sort above allthe folders starting with lowercase
> > letters
> 
> Are you sure you're not just seeing special folders placed above
> everything else? Because that's what happens over here. Regular
> folders are sorted without case sensitivity, IOW "foo" goes before
> "Goo".

Thanks Andrej,

 I doubt they're special folders. I named them myself, from within my
 Dovecot server and then just imported the messages.

How would I deduce whether these capitalized folders are special
folders? I mean the names are OpenBSD, Postgres, and Vim, not INBOX or
Sent.

Thanks

SteveT


From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Oct 18 00:45:49 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 00:45:49 +0200
Subject: [Users] How to sort folder list case insensitively?
In-Reply-To: <20151017183318.3dd5c980@mydesk.domain.cxm>
References: <20151017163723.3c42da43@mydesk.domain.cxm>
 <20151017231828.0bb5895f@penny>
 <20151017183318.3dd5c980@mydesk.domain.cxm>
Message-ID: <20151018004549.5859d8b7@penny>

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 18:33:18 -0400
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

> > Are you sure you're not just seeing special folders placed above
> > everything else? Because that's what happens over here. Regular
> > folders are sorted without case sensitivity, IOW "foo" goes before
> > "Goo".  
> 
> Thanks Andrej,
> 
>  I doubt they're special folders. I named them myself, from within my
>  Dovecot server and then just imported the messages.
> 
> How would I deduce whether these capitalized folders are special
> folders? I mean the names are OpenBSD, Postgres, and Vim, not INBOX or
> Sent.

If they have regular folder icon next to them, they're not special. The
folders you describe indeed probably aren't the special folders (inbox,
outbox/queue, sent, trash, drafts).

Have a look at Q's suggestion elsewhere in this thread. What's value of
your LC_COLLATE env. variable? Mine is "en_US.UTF-8".

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From mail1 at hoehle.net  Sun Oct 18 00:51:06 2015
From: mail1 at hoehle.net (mail1 at hoehle.net)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 00:51:06 +0200
Subject: [Users] Windows Mail folder location
Message-ID: <E1ZnaJn-0001EI-2z@smtprelay04.ispgateway.de>

Hello,

I am pretty new to Claws and would like to use it in the near future. 
For the time being there are only two questions that remain unsolved. 
I have searched through the "Users" list here as well as the usual 
search engines but couldn't come up with the answers... One of them is

Where does the Windows version of Claws store the mails / mailboxes ? 
It would be nice to be able to backup the specific folder  containing 
all emails...

I have created a few subfolders to the default Mailbox (MH) folder 
structure and created and even imported a few emails in them to play 
with. I am aware of the folder 
C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Claws-mail, but it doesn't 
contain a subfolde named "Mail" but only what to me seems like the 
database for tagging emails: \tagsdb\#mh\Mailbox\.... In fact the 
whole \Claws-mail folder mentioned above is not even big enough to 
contain all these emails.

Any clues ?

Martin

________________
MAIL1 at Hoehle.net 



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Oct 18 00:51:52 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 22:51:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3521] Mbox import from Thunderbird crashes on
	completion
In-Reply-To: <bug-3521-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3521-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3521-595-1NAysYPirN@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3521

--- Comment #2 from cm at jonlawson.com ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> Can you provide an example mbox file with which Claws Mail crashes?
> 
> Also, does the issue still happen with Claws Mail 3.13.0?

Importing the same files under 3.13.0 works fine. I noticed a fix relating to
double notifications and I wonder if this could have been fixed by that. The
crashes occur when the import has completed without error and the notification
pops up, always saying "2 new messages" regardless of how many were imported.

I'd have to reinstall Thunderbird and slim down an mbox file to get one small
enough to upload. Let me know if you still want it.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Oct 18 01:15:38 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 23:15:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3521] Mbox import from Thunderbird crashes on
	completion
In-Reply-To: <bug-3521-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3521-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3521-595-RcJBJ90yxI@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3521

--- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
If you can always crash CM 3.12.0 with that mbox file, but never CM 3.13.0, I
do not really need it. :) But we need to make sure that 3.13.0 is really
unaffected.

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From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Oct 18 01:18:01 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 01:18:01 +0200
Subject: [Users] Windows Mail folder location
In-Reply-To: <E1ZnaJn-0001EI-2z@smtprelay04.ispgateway.de>
References: <E1ZnaJn-0001EI-2z@smtprelay04.ispgateway.de>
Message-ID: <20151018011801.75ba17fd@penny>

On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 00:51:06 +0200
<mail1 at hoehle.net> wrote:

> Where does the Windows version of Claws store the mails / mailboxes ? 

Hello Martin,

try looking at "C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\<mailboxname>",
where mailboxname is however you named your local MH folder tree
(default name is "Mail", if I recall correctly).

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From clawsmailuser at gmail.com  Sun Oct 18 08:37:37 2015
From: clawsmailuser at gmail.com (Claws mail user)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 07:37:37 +0100
Subject: [Users] Some URLs will not open in viewer
In-Reply-To: <20151017100956.4867ef46@Spare-room.home>
References: <20151017100956.4867ef46@Spare-room.home>
Message-ID: <20151018073737.562f3267@Spare-room.home>

Apologies if this is a re-post my original message did not seem to
appear 

In Claws mail v. 3.13.0 some URLs in HTML emails will open a Web page
in the viewer when you click on them and some won't. This is using the
Fancy plugin with the option "Open in viewer (remote content is
enabled)" selected. Everything else is enabled: display images, execute
java script,execute java applets, render objects using plugins. I'm not
sure I can see any common thread amongst the links that will work
with the viewer and those that won't. If you right click on a link
which won't display in the viewer and choose "Open in browser" this
pretty much always seems to work. A right click and "Open in viewer"
sometimes works if a direct click on the link doesn't work. Is there a
reason for this or a configuration option which will fix it? Many
thanks    

 
 
 
 



From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sun Oct 18 12:23:50 2015
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 11:23:50 +0100
Subject: [Users] Some URLs will not open in viewer
In-Reply-To: <20151018073737.562f3267@Spare-room.home>
References: <20151017100956.4867ef46@Spare-room.home>
 <20151018073737.562f3267@Spare-room.home>
Message-ID: <20151018112350.75c4836b@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 07:37:37 +0100
Claws mail user <clawsmailuser at gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Claws,

>Apologies if this is a re-post my original message did not seem to
>appear 

It appeared.  You may be being confused, however, by google's insistence
that *not* echoing your messages back to you is a good idea.

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        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
Where will you be when the bodies burn?
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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sun Oct 18 13:28:30 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 13:28:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] Some URLs will not open in viewer
In-Reply-To: <20151018112350.75c4836b@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20151017100956.4867ef46@Spare-room.home>
 <20151018073737.562f3267@Spare-room.home>
 <20151018112350.75c4836b@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20151018132830.0dfdece5@moonstudio>

On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 11:23:50 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
>On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 07:37:37 +0100
>>Apologies if this is a re-post my original message did not seem to
>>appear   
>
>It appeared.  You may be being confused, however, by google's
>insistence that *not* echoing your messages back to you is a good idea.

This happens for an Yahoo account I'm using too. There's a mailman
option for sending a mails that confirms that a reply came through the
list and it's also possible to take a look at the list archive.

Regards,
Ralf


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Oct 18 15:50:30 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 13:50:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3540] New: "fancy" not compiling/installing. 64 bit
 Linux Mint 16 and 17
Message-ID: <bug-3540-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3540

            Bug ID: 3540
           Summary: "fancy" not compiling/installing. 64 bit Linux Mint 16
                    and 17
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.13.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: claws-mail at fy3.co.uk

Created attachment 1579
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1579&action=edit
plugin load dialogue

Tested for new installation and upgrade installation. Not tested on 32bit

Fancy HTML viewer plugin is not available after installation. [screen shot of
plugin load dialogue attached.]

Upgrade install from 3.9 leaves earlier version of fancy.so in place.


A "clean" install has no fancy.so in plugins folder.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Oct 18 15:53:58 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 13:53:58 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3540] "fancy" not compiling/installing. 64 bit Linux
 Mint 16 and 17
In-Reply-To: <bug-3540-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3540-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3540-595-6FIkvwHCyb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3540

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
probably you are missing the dependencies.
this is not the right place for this discussion. see here for the right places:
http://www.claws-mail.org/MLs.php

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Oct 18 16:08:41 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 14:08:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3539] Print job fails
In-Reply-To: <bug-3539-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3539-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3539-595-wNfuhTCBgk@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3539

--- Comment #5 from tio.madrid at hotmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #4)
> The attached file is 3 bytes large, and contains only one word, "foo".
> 
Stating the obvious. What does "foo" stand for and mean? I presume it is an
abbreviation of foomatic, a configurable printing filter.

> Before printing, do you see a print dialog where you can select which
> printer to use and other settings?
Yes, printer shows as ready to print.

> If so, the fault is not in Claws Mail.
Print jobs of other applications are executed flawlessly. My understanding is
that the print job is passed by the application to the spooler and from there
to the printer. I suspect that the hand over of print job from claws-mail to
spooler is faulty because no claws-mail print job ever shows in the spooler.
However, print jobs of other applications show in the spooler and are executed.
Logically questioning your statement, how can you be absolutely sure the fault
is not in Claws Mail?

Can you advise how you obtain a detailed debug report on Windows 7 64 bit,
which additional debug software you install (32 or 64 bit on 64 bit system) and
what steps do you follow?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Oct 18 16:21:27 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 14:21:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2045] address book blocks focus on email window
In-Reply-To: <bug-2045-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2045-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2045-595-ry8e8rmuAB@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2045

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
            Version|3.6.1                       |3.13.0

--- Comment #5 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
I can't see a reason why the dialog should be modal either. Anyone against
applying Salvatore's patch?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Oct 18 16:47:45 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 14:47:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3539] Print job fails
In-Reply-To: <bug-3539-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3539-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3539-595-41Y9d9JnAz@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3539

--- Comment #6 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
You probably found wrong file. The string "foo" is situationally written into a
file named "claws-crashed", not into the log file. claws-win32.log, when
running claws-mail.exe --debug should start with something like this:

claws.c:102:Starting Claws Mail version Claws Mail 3.13.0
main.c:769:runtime GTK+ 2.24.28 / GLib 2.45.2
main.c:777:buildtime GTK+ 2.24.28 / GLib 2.45.2
main.c:786:Compiled-in features:

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From edodd55 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 18 22:53:17 2015
From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 07:53:17 +1100
Subject: [Users] Use of message reply template
Message-ID: <20151019075317.5d072ac1.edodd55@gmail.com>

I'm looking at the message reply template and wondering how to
eliminate multiple mailing list footers.

I looked at choosing a string of text and replacing it with user
defined text, which would be either empty or the space key.
But when I look at a mail with 8 repeats of the footer, there are
multiple quote marks inserted with every repeat.

Has anyone solved this problem?


Liz


From mail1 at hoehle.net  Mon Oct 19 00:00:06 2015
From: mail1 at hoehle.net (Martin Hoehle)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 00:00:06 +0200
Subject: [Users] Windows Mail folder location
In-Reply-To: <mailman.7.1445162402.24448.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
References: <mailman.7.1445162402.24448.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
Message-ID: <E1Znvzt-0006LP-HZ@smtprelay02.ispgateway.de>


>
>
> > Where does the Windows version of Claws store the mails / mailboxes ?
>
>Hello Martin,
>
>try looking at "C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\<mailboxname>",
>where mailboxname is however you named your local MH folder tree
>(default name is "Mail", if I recall correctly).
>
>Regards,
>--
>Andrej

Andrej,

thank you for your input, that has saved the day !

I would never have imagined that the Mail folder could be somewhere 
else but under /Claws-mail and some of the docs I have found do say 
so... In hindsight it's rather logical because the MH format could be 
read by other programs as well and therefore should not "belong" to 
CM in all cases.

Is there a way I can change the location where CM keeps the mail 
database, to another partition for example ? I had a look at the 
clawsrc config file but it does not seem to define the mail folder path.

Regards
Martin




From andrej at kacian.sk  Mon Oct 19 00:17:52 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 00:17:52 +0200
Subject: [Users] Windows Mail folder location
In-Reply-To: <E1Znvzt-0006LP-HZ@smtprelay02.ispgateway.de>
References: <mailman.7.1445162402.24448.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
 <E1Znvzt-0006LP-HZ@smtprelay02.ispgateway.de>
Message-ID: <20151019001752.50228a41@penny>

On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 00:00:06 +0200
Martin Hoehle <mail1 at hoehle.net> wrote:

> I would never have imagined that the Mail folder could be somewhere 
> else but under /Claws-mail and some of the docs I have found do say 
> so... In hindsight it's rather logical because the MH format could be 
> read by other programs as well and therefore should not "belong" to 
> CM in all cases.

Indeed, and it is also because traditionally, on Unix-like operating
systems (where Claws Mail started), mail usually goes to a different
location than program configuration. :)

> Is there a way I can change the location where CM keeps the mail 
> database, to another partition for example ? I had a look at the 
> clawsrc config file but it does not seem to define the mail folder path.

You can just remove the MH folder tree from Claws Mail, move it
wherever you want, and then add it again (via "File/Add Mailbox/MH..."
menu) using full path, e.g. "d:\my stuff\workmail". You can also create
new mailboxes using full path, so that they won't be placed in the
default location, but where you want them.

You could also edit folderrc file directly, if you know what you're
doing, but be careful.

Regards,
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 19 01:38:46 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 23:38:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3541] New: Selecting a leaf folder with keyboard no
 longer opens it
Message-ID: <bug-3541-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3541

            Bug ID: 3541
           Summary: Selecting a leaf folder with keyboard no longer opens
                    it
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.13.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: martin at meltin.net

When navigating the folder list in the main window using the keyboard,
pressing enter or right-arrow on the highlighted folder used to always
open that folder.

Now, if a folder has no sub-folders then pressing enter or right-arrow
marks the folder as expanded.  A second press is needed to actually
open the folder.

The old behaviour is clearly preferable, where leaf folders were
opened immediately.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 19 02:36:45 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 00:36:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3541] Selecting a leaf folder with keyboard no longer
	opens it
In-Reply-To: <bug-3541-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3541-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3541-595-wathqS8WrS@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3541

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
That the Enter key expands the folder is an oversight, sorry about that. The
idea was that right arrow would expand the folder (if needed), but Enter key
should open the folder right away.

It will be fixed in next release.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 19 05:19:40 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 03:19:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3541] Selecting a leaf folder with keyboard no longer
	opens it
In-Reply-To: <bug-3541-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3541-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3541-595-xrxmXdZzAe@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3541

--- Comment #2 from Martin Schwenke <martin at meltin.net> ---
Thanks!

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 19 09:48:12 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 07:48:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3293] Sometimes imapcache produces wrong email contents
In-Reply-To: <bug-3293-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3293-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3293-595-BjrQhWWq2t@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3293

--- Comment #15 from Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen at gmail.com> ---
(In reply to comment #14)
> I think the problem might be caused by our using chdir() a lot, which could
> be a problem with multiple threads.

That could certainly explain why I also get hundreds of

/home/pq/.claws-mail/imapcache/imap.gmail.com/ppaalanen at gmail.com/INBOX/123734:
unlink: No such file or directory

often when I close claws-mail. I haven't noticed anything bad happening from
that, so I never reported it.

This is just an anecdote, and perhaps off-topic.

For the record, I have "Metadata handling" set to "Safer", and I'm using
spinning disks on laptops which means disk ops are not too fast. Maybe that
contributes here?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 19 05:19:40 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 03:19:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3541] Selecting a leaf folder with keyboard no longer
	opens it
In-Reply-To: <bug-3541-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3541-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3541-595-TbIHH2dPLI@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3541

--- Comment #3 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2015-10-19 09:53:02.146202639 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=804525c249950c84c1eb712d12634d26dcb8e6cf
Merge: d2d15ce 9665338
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Mon Oct 19 09:53:01 2015 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=966533831c173434e600e9278be65b0d75021ca3
Author: Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk>
Date:   Mon Oct 19 09:49:51 2015 +0200

    In folderview, Enter key opens the selected folder immediately.

    ...instead of expanding it to see its subfolders.
    Closes bug #3541.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 19 10:12:02 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:12:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3375] Crash (SEGV) at gtkcmctree.c:4514 after deleting
 an unread message
In-Reply-To: <bug-3375-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3375-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3375-595-b6cDJThyu5@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3375

--- Comment #9 from Arthur HUILLET <arthur.huillet at free.fr> ---
I can readily reproduce this crash, by deleting unread messages (on an IMAP
server, with 1 second delayed marked-as-read).

Backtrace: 

#0  0x00000000005fa8c4 in gtk_cmctree_node_get_row_data
(ctree=ctree at entry=0xa875d0, node=node at entry=0x1567520) at gtkcmctree.c:4514
#1  0x0000000000551cc3 in summary_set_row_marks (summaryview=0xc97880,
row=0x1567520) at summaryview.c:3838
#2  0x0000000000557687 in msginfo_mark_as_read (summaryview=0xc97880,
msginfo=<optimized out>, row=0x1567520) at summaryview.c:3542
#3  0x000000000055774b in msginfo_mark_as_read_timeout (data=0x12f0c80) at
summaryview.c:3559
#4  0x00007ffff528f6e3 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#5  0x00007ffff528ec7a in g_main_context_dispatch () from
/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#6  0x00007ffff528f020 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#7  0x00007ffff528f342 in g_main_loop_run () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#8  0x00007ffff748c467 in gtk_main () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#9  0x000000000044836d in main (argc=1, argv=0x7fffffffe218) at main.c:1559

Now testing the patch from commment #6.

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From LinuxCobra at gmx.de  Mon Oct 19 12:05:42 2015
From: LinuxCobra at gmx.de (LinuxCobra at gmx.de)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 12:05:42 +0200
Subject: [Users] Print in File (PDF) - Target Folder fixable ?
Message-ID: <20151019120542.0dc54b82@cpu1.linuxcobra>

Hi :)


following problem:

I have often mails from Claws Mail to print as a PDF - quite well so far -
Only it is annoying if one always have to specify the destination folder to
new , resp Claws Mail this randomly propose (a mail folder)

My question is: is there a way, this folder while this issue is (always the
same) to fix (eg via option / config file)

Greetings form Germany.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 19 14:21:38 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 12:21:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3542] New: After deleting a message or moving it to
 trash, claws selects the previous message, not the next
Message-ID: <bug-3542-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3542

            Bug ID: 3542
           Summary: After deleting a message or moving it to trash, claws
                    selects the previous message, not the next
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.13.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message List
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: pezcurrel at tiscali.it

In the message list, after deleting a message or moving it to trash, claws
selects the message above the one that has been deleted or moved, not the one
below as would be expected and as it was in previous version. This is
unconfortable.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 19 14:27:03 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 12:27:03 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3542] After deleting a message or moving it to trash,
 claws selects the previous message, not the next
In-Reply-To: <bug-3542-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3542-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3542-595-dQfDWp7Wr8@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3542

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
already resolved in git

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 19 14:42:52 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:42:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] Version 3.13
In-Reply-To: <20151014012034.139b4cf7@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
References: <20151012102020.70b03546@dz>
 <20151012165058.454fa2b0@pc09.procura.nl>
 <20151012164803.792754f7@kujata.lan>
 <20151012175833.7fe5a282@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20151012180150.305b96ac@kujata.lan>
 <20151012191159.44e39cfc@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
 <20151012185729.73ff8c56@kujata.lan>
 <20151014012034.139b4cf7@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
Message-ID: <20151019134252.2b548235@kujata.lan>

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 01:20:34 +0200
"Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)" <rol at witbe.net> wrote: 

> Would you accept the attached patch for inclusion, to give this
> parameter a GUI ?

Of those in the dev team that expressed an opinion, the general
feeling is that a UI option is not needed. Thanks, anyway.

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 19 15:09:16 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:09:16 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3541] Selecting a leaf folder with keyboard no longer
	opens it
In-Reply-To: <bug-3541-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3541-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3541-595-rHetDTkHWT@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3541

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

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From pf at pfortin.com  Mon Oct 19 16:04:46 2015
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 10:04:46 -0400
Subject: [Users] CM displaying wrong message content...
Message-ID: <20151019100446.411a3461@pfortin.com>

Morning! 

I was going to raise this on IRC; but too complex for that...  :) 

The following may be a known/previous bug; but the only similar bug I can
find is:
 Bug 1434 - Cache loses sync when mail delivered directly by procmail 

However, I'm not using procmail; just CM via POP3 only (multiple
accounts). For the first time in 14 years: I have an inbox msg (18476)
that displays previous[1] inbox msg (18428) content, even after restart.
Most incoming messages get filtered immediately into other folders.  

[1] All intervening numbers have been moved/deleted.

The only commonality between these 2 messages is that they contain HTML.

Since I always run 2 instances of CM, I redirected the message to an
account on the other instance, and the same issue occurs there...  

Something in this message is triggering a bug that looks[2] like bug
1434 (though I haven't read that bug in its entirety); but I don't recall
seeing anything else similar on the bug tracker or list.

This message also triggers konsole messages when selecting it, either
explicitly or automatically when a newer message is deleted, making it
the currently selected one:
 sys:1: Warning: Source ID * was not found when attempting to remove it
where "*" is a random number (3-7 digits (so far)).

Also seeing message(s):

 ** (cm:6714): WARNING **: contents differ
No idea what contents...

 sys:1: GtkWarning: IA__gtk_widget_set_tooltip_text: assertion
  'GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
Rare; but included in case.

However, I can't match where some of these messages started relative to
when this message came in because my enhancement request is not yet
implemented:
 Bug 3353 - unify date/time stamping of all console/log messages
:)

Currently running 3.12.0-116-g72f852 -- I can continue delaying upgrade
to 3.13 or test with 3.13 on yet another instance...  This may be the
situation that lets y'all finally find a clue to bug 1434, so I don't
want to change anything yet -- let me know what would help...  

The message is a reply from a vendor; so I can redirect it to anyone
interested...

Cheers,
Pierre




From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 19 16:54:04 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 14:54:04 -0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3480] No valid feed found when channel title is missing
In-Reply-To: <bug-3480-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3480-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3480-595-K2kzkXfKx9@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3480

--- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2015-10-19 16:54:02.237806269 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=6acb792013989d30beb78e52a461035bb7d394d8
Merge: 804525c aeb5b6a
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Mon Oct 19 16:54:01 2015 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=aeb5b6ad61afcdaf27639eda07cefa55c058dac6
Author: Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk>
Date:   Mon Oct 19 16:53:32 2015 +0200

    RSSyl: Accept feeds with no title. Closes bug #3480.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 19 16:57:44 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 14:57:44 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3480] No valid feed found when channel title is missing
In-Reply-To: <bug-3480-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3480-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3480-595-gteB0RITLv@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3480

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
The feed is now accepted, but RSSyl will complain in network log window.

You should also contact owners of the website to fix their feed.

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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Mon Oct 19 17:37:43 2015
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:37:43 -0400
Subject: [Users] CM displaying wrong message content...
In-Reply-To: <20151019100446.411a3461@pfortin.com>
References: <20151019100446.411a3461@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20151019113743.4cb7d948@mydesk.domain.cxm>

On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 10:04:46 -0400
Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:

> Morning! 
> 
> I was going to raise this on IRC; but too complex for that...  :) 

IRC? What IRC channel and server? I had no idea Claws-Mail had an IRC
channel!

SteveT


From h.m.brand at xs4all.nl  Mon Oct 19 17:51:59 2015
From: h.m.brand at xs4all.nl (H.Merijn Brand)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 17:51:59 +0200
Subject: [Users] CM displaying wrong message content...
In-Reply-To: <20151019113743.4cb7d948@mydesk.domain.cxm>
References: <20151019100446.411a3461@pfortin.com>
 <20151019113743.4cb7d948@mydesk.domain.cxm>
Message-ID: <20151019175159.2c7d11c9@pc09.procura.nl>

On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:37:43 -0400, Steve Litt
<slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 10:04:46 -0400
> Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:
> 
> > Morning! 
> > 
> > I was going to raise this on IRC; but too complex for that...  :)   
> 
> IRC? What IRC channel and server? I had no idea Claws-Mail had an IRC
> channel!

freenode #claws

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 19 18:15:25 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 16:15:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3151] loaded vCalendar plugin "disables" gnome-shells
 calendar view entries
In-Reply-To: <bug-3151-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3151-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3151-595-2FcLmLeTsA@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3151

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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                URL|                            |https://bugs.debian.org/683
                   |                            |283

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 19 18:20:10 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 16:20:10 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3151] loaded vCalendar plugin "disables" gnome-shells
 calendar view entries
In-Reply-To: <bug-3151-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3151-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3151-595-I3iBKvVwLb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3151

--- Comment #7 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #6)
> Looks like another variant of https://bugs.debian.org/683283.

I've (finally) forwarded the Debian bug to this one, as it's the same bug.

Looking at vCalendar code seems the simplest way to fix this is to offer an
option on vCalendar config to allow vCalendar to act as a the GNOME calendar
server, disabled by default.

Better ideas welcome, of course :-)

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From mail1 at hoehle.net  Mon Oct 19 18:53:01 2015
From: mail1 at hoehle.net (Martin Hoehle)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:53:01 +0200
Subject: [Users] Windows Mail folder location
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1445248801.12262.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
References: <mailman.5.1445248801.12262.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
Message-ID: <E1ZoDgF-00067m-T8@smtprelay04.ispgateway.de>

At 12:00 19.10.2015, you wrote:
>Message: 1
>Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 00:17:52 +0200
>From: Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk>
>To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
>Subject: Re: [Users] Windows Mail folder location
>Message-ID: <20151019001752.50228a41 at penny>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
>On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 00:00:06 +0200
>Martin Hoehle <mail1 at hoehle.net> wrote:
>
> > I would never have imagined that the Mail folder could be somewhere
> > else but under /Claws-mail and some of the docs I have found do say
> > so... In hindsight it's rather logical because the MH format could be
> > read by other programs as well and therefore should not "belong" to
> > CM in all cases.
>
>Indeed, and it is also because traditionally, on Unix-like operating
>systems (where Claws Mail started), mail usually goes to a different
>location than program configuration. :)

Is there a way to move the config folder from 
C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Claws-mail to another folder as 
well ? Obviously CM should know where to look for it so the relevant 
path cannot be defined in one of the files in this folder itself. 
Since there do not seem to be any CM settings in the registry (and 
not in the program folder C:\Program Files (x86)\Claws Mail) I fear 
that it's hard coded into CM that the config folder location is under 
the /Users folder as defined by the relevant environment variable ? 
It would be nice to have that automatically backed up with all my data.

> > Is there a way I can change the location where CM keeps the mail
> > database, to another partition for example ? I had a look at the
> > clawsrc config file but it does not seem to define the mail folder path.
>
>You can just remove the MH folder tree from Claws Mail, move it
>wherever you want, and then add it again (via "File/Add Mailbox/MH..."
>menu) using full path, e.g. "d:\my stuff\workmail". You can also create
>new mailboxes using full path, so that they won't be placed in the
>default location, but where you want them.

Ok, perfect !

>You could also edit folderrc file directly, if you know what you're
>doing, but be careful.

I do some Linux server admin stuff, don't worry. But the Win version 
of CM doesn't seem to have such a file. :(

This is alredy OT, hopefully you don't mind: How for X's sake can I 
change the language of CM's user interface ? It defaults me to the 
system locale but I need something different. I've already had a look 
at clawsrc and in the GUI settings menu item but no luck there.

Regards
Martin



From pf at pfortin.com  Mon Oct 19 19:12:41 2015
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:12:41 -0400
Subject: [Users] CM displaying wrong message content...
In-Reply-To: <20151019100446.411a3461@pfortin.com>
References: <20151019100446.411a3461@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20151019131241.560533cf@pfortin.com>

On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 10:04:46 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote:

>Morning! 
>
>I was going to raise this on IRC; but too complex for that...  :) 
>
>The following may be a known/previous bug; but the only similar bug I can
>find is:
> Bug 1434 - Cache loses sync when mail delivered directly by procmail 

Back...  Upgraded one of my instances to 3.13.0-20-ga98e7f (full git
clone) and am still seeing the bug...

In addition to the initial info, found that if I open a message which
contains HTML, then the problem one, I get the bug; but, ONLY if Fancy
was used to display...  If I don't click on the icon to open with Fancy
(on a message that doesn't auto-open w/Fancy), then the display is still
from the last display by Fancy... 

HTH

Gotta run out again...  will open a formal bug later...

>
>However, I'm not using procmail; just CM via POP3 only (multiple
>accounts). For the first time in 14 years: I have an inbox msg (18476)
>that displays previous[1] inbox msg (18428) content, even after restart.
>Most incoming messages get filtered immediately into other folders.  
>
>[1] All intervening numbers have been moved/deleted.
>
>The only commonality between these 2 messages is that they contain HTML.
>
>Since I always run 2 instances of CM, I redirected the message to an
>account on the other instance, and the same issue occurs there...  
>
>Something in this message is triggering a bug that looks[2] like bug
>1434 (though I haven't read that bug in its entirety); but I don't recall
>seeing anything else similar on the bug tracker or list.
>
>This message also triggers konsole messages when selecting it, either
>explicitly or automatically when a newer message is deleted, making it
>the currently selected one:
> sys:1: Warning: Source ID * was not found when attempting to remove it
>where "*" is a random number (3-7 digits (so far)).
>
>Also seeing message(s):
>
> ** (cm:6714): WARNING **: contents differ
>No idea what contents...
>
> sys:1: GtkWarning: IA__gtk_widget_set_tooltip_text: assertion
>  'GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
>Rare; but included in case.
>
>However, I can't match where some of these messages started relative to
>when this message came in because my enhancement request is not yet
>implemented:
> Bug 3353 - unify date/time stamping of all console/log messages
>:)
>
>Currently running 3.12.0-116-g72f852 -- I can continue delaying upgrade
>to 3.13 or test with 3.13 on yet another instance...  This may be the
>situation that lets y'all finally find a clue to bug 1434, so I don't
>want to change anything yet -- let me know what would help...  
>
>The message is a reply from a vendor; so I can redirect it to anyone
>interested...
>
>Cheers,
>Pierre


From andrej at kacian.sk  Mon Oct 19 20:29:49 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 20:29:49 +0200
Subject: [Users] Windows Mail folder location
In-Reply-To: <E1ZoDgF-00067m-T8@smtprelay04.ispgateway.de>
References: <mailman.5.1445248801.12262.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
 <E1ZoDgF-00067m-T8@smtprelay04.ispgateway.de>
Message-ID: <20151019202949.669608f4@penny>

On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:53:01 +0200
Martin Hoehle <mail1 at hoehle.net> wrote:

> Is there a way to move the config folder from 
> C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Claws-mail to another folder as 
> well ? Obviously CM should know where to look for it so the relevant 
> path cannot be defined in one of the files in this folder itself. 
> Since there do not seem to be any CM settings in the registry (and 
> not in the program folder C:\Program Files (x86)\Claws Mail) I fear 
> that it's hard coded into CM that the config folder location is under 
> the /Users folder as defined by the relevant environment variable ? 
> It would be nice to have that automatically backed up with all my data.
> 
> > > Is there a way I can change the location where CM keeps the mail
> > > database, to another partition for example ? I had a look at the
> > > clawsrc config file but it does not seem to define the mail folder path.  
> >
> >You can just remove the MH folder tree from Claws Mail, move it
> >wherever you want, and then add it again (via "File/Add Mailbox/MH..."
> >menu) using full path, e.g. "d:\my stuff\workmail". You can also create
> >new mailboxes using full path, so that they won't be placed in the
> >default location, but where you want them.  

You can use whatever path to configuration you need by running
claws-mail.exe with "--alternate-config-dir c:\path\to\config" option.
You can add this in Properties of the desktop shortcut.

> Ok, perfect !
> 
> >You could also edit folderrc file directly, if you know what you're
> >doing, but be careful.  
> 
> I do some Linux server admin stuff, don't worry. But the Win version 
> of CM doesn't seem to have such a file. :(
> 
> This is alredy OT, hopefully you don't mind: How for X's sake can I 
> change the language of CM's user interface ? It defaults me to the 
> system locale but I need something different. I've already had a look 
> at clawsrc and in the GUI settings menu item but no luck there.

You can control the language by changing the "lang" environment
variable. See http://www.rarst.net/software/change-interface-language/
for a nice description.

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From ethy.brito at inexo.com.br  Mon Oct 19 22:42:33 2015
From: ethy.brito at inexo.com.br (Ethy H. Brito)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:42:33 -0200
Subject: [Users] extended search shot circuit
Message-ID: <20151019184233.01436284@pulsar.inexo.com.br>


Hi

Does extended search benefit from boolean short circuits?
For instance, "f mr_Doe & b some_text" behaves substantially different from 
"b some_text & f mr_Doe"?

I ask those because extended search is annoyingly slow.

I am trying to find an email from mr_doe that contains some_word for more than 5 minutes now. Gave up!
I did the search from command line in a few seconds (three to be precise) using grep and xargs!

~/.claws-mail/imapcache/1.1.1.1/me at here/INBOX$ grep -l "From:.*danton" 1* | \
	xargs grep -i some_word

I am certainly doing something very wrong with claws!

Pointers?

Regards

Ethy


From colin at colino.net  Mon Oct 19 22:50:11 2015
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 22:50:11 +0200
Subject: [Users] extended search shot circuit
In-Reply-To: <20151019184233.01436284@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
References: <20151019184233.01436284@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
Message-ID: <593D305E-67AF-448A-9C31-F1255951123E@colino.net>

Hi,
Yes, it does; priority is left to right. 
I usually prefix body searches with f or al to get speedier results. 


Le 19 octobre 2015 22:42:33 GMT+02:00, "Ethy H. Brito" <ethy.brito at inexo.com.br> a écrit :
>
>Hi
>
>Does extended search benefit from boolean short circuits?
>For instance, "f mr_Doe & b some_text" behaves substantially different
>from 
>"b some_text & f mr_Doe"?
>
>I ask those because extended search is annoyingly slow.
>
>I am trying to find an email from mr_doe that contains some_word for
>more than 5 minutes now. Gave up!
>I did the search from command line in a few seconds (three to be
>precise) using grep and xargs!
>
>~/.claws-mail/imapcache/1.1.1.1/me at here/INBOX$ grep -l "From:.*danton"
>1* | \
>	xargs grep -i some_word
>
>I am certainly doing something very wrong with claws!
>
>Pointers?
>
>Regards
>
>Ethy
>_______________________________________________
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>Users at lists.claws-mail.org
>http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

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From ethy.brito at inexo.com.br  Mon Oct 19 22:59:17 2015
From: ethy.brito at inexo.com.br (Ethy H. Brito)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:59:17 -0200
Subject: [Users] extended search shot circuit
In-Reply-To: <593D305E-67AF-448A-9C31-F1255951123E@colino.net>
References: <20151019184233.01436284@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
 <593D305E-67AF-448A-9C31-F1255951123E@colino.net>
Message-ID: <20151019185917.5abf3910@pulsar.inexo.com.br>

On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 22:50:11 +0200
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

> Hi,
> Yes, it does; priority is left to right. 
> I usually prefix body searches with f or al to get speedier results. 

I suspected that, since it is a "C" descendant program.

But my times are too high.

I am using "f mr_doe & b some_word". 
It is running now for more than 5 minutes for a universe of 5500 INBOX emails.

Is there a limit on the number of chained expressions?
"... & ... & ... & ..." is a valid expression?

I get a red background input field when I add the third "&"!


Ethy



> 
> 
> Le 19 octobre 2015 22:42:33 GMT+02:00, "Ethy H. Brito"
> <ethy.brito at inexo.com.br> a écrit :
> >
> >Hi
> >
> >Does extended search benefit from boolean short circuits?
> >For instance, "f mr_Doe & b some_text" behaves substantially different
> >from 
> >"b some_text & f mr_Doe"?
> >
> >I ask those because extended search is annoyingly slow.
> >
> >I am trying to find an email from mr_doe that contains some_word for
> >more than 5 minutes now. Gave up!
> >I did the search from command line in a few seconds (three to be
> >precise) using grep and xargs!
> >
> >~/.claws-mail/imapcache/1.1.1.1/me at here/INBOX$ grep -l "From:.*danton"
> >1* | \
> >	xargs grep -i some_word
> >
> >I am certainly doing something very wrong with claws!
> >
> >Pointers?
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Ethy
> >_______________________________________________
> >Users mailing list
> >Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> >http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
> 
> -- 
> Envoyé de mon appareil Android avec K-9 Mail. Veuillez excuser ma brièveté.

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From ethy.brito at inexo.com.br  Mon Oct 19 23:08:36 2015
From: ethy.brito at inexo.com.br (Ethy H. Brito)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 19:08:36 -0200
Subject: [Users] extended search shot circuit
In-Reply-To: <20151019185917.5abf3910@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
References: <20151019184233.01436284@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
 <593D305E-67AF-448A-9C31-F1255951123E@colino.net>
 <20151019185917.5abf3910@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
Message-ID: <20151019190836.2837a151@pulsar.inexo.com.br>

On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:59:17 -0200
"Ethy H. Brito" <ethy.brito at inexo.com.br> wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 22:50:11 +0200
> Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > Yes, it does; priority is left to right. 
> > I usually prefix body searches with f or al to get speedier results. 
> 
> I suspected that, since it is a "C" descendant program.
> 
> But my times are too high.
> 
> I am using "f mr_doe & b some_word". 
> It is running now for more than 5 minutes for a universe of 5500 INBOX emails.
> 
> Is there a limit on the number of chained expressions?
> "... & ... & ... & ..." is a valid expression?
> 
> I get a red background input field when I add the third "&"!

Correcting: when I add the SECOND "&".

Sorry.

Ethy


> 
> 
> Ethy
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Le 19 octobre 2015 22:42:33 GMT+02:00, "Ethy H. Brito"
> > <ethy.brito at inexo.com.br> a écrit :
> > >
> > >Hi
> > >
> > >Does extended search benefit from boolean short circuits?
> > >For instance, "f mr_Doe & b some_text" behaves substantially different
> > >from 
> > >"b some_text & f mr_Doe"?
> > >
> > >I ask those because extended search is annoyingly slow.
> > >
> > >I am trying to find an email from mr_doe that contains some_word for
> > >more than 5 minutes now. Gave up!
> > >I did the search from command line in a few seconds (three to be
> > >precise) using grep and xargs!
> > >
> > >~/.claws-mail/imapcache/1.1.1.1/me at here/INBOX$ grep -l "From:.*danton"
> > >1* | \
> > >	xargs grep -i some_word
> > >
> > >I am certainly doing something very wrong with claws!
> > >
> > >Pointers?
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >
> > >Ethy
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >Users mailing list
> > >Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> > >http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
> > 
> > -- 
> > Envoyé de mon appareil Android avec K-9 Mail. Veuillez excuser ma brièveté.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Ethy H. Brito         /"\
> InterNexo Ltda.       \ /  CAMPANHA DA FITA ASCII - CONTRA MAIL HTML
> +55 (12) 3797-6860     X   ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL
> S.J.Campos - Brasil   / \ 
>  
> PGP key: http://www.inexo.com.br/~ethy/0xC3F222A0.asc
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users


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From mail1 at hoehle.net  Mon Oct 19 23:15:14 2015
From: mail1 at hoehle.net (Martin Hoehle)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 23:15:14 +0200
Subject: [Users] Users Digest, Vol 50, Issue 41
In-Reply-To: <mailman.226.1445288367.25613.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
References: <mailman.226.1445288367.25613.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
Message-ID: <E1ZoHm1-000899-Tw@smtprelay02.ispgateway.de>

At 22:59 19.10.2015, you wrote:
>Message: 5
>Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 20:29:49 +0200
>From: Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk>
>To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
>Subject: Re: [Users] Windows Mail folder location
>Message-ID: <20151019202949.669608f4 at penny>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
>On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:53:01 +0200
>Martin Hoehle <mail1 at hoehle.net> wrote:
>
> > Is there a way to move the config folder from
> > C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Claws-mail to another folder as
> > well ? Obviously CM should know where to look for it so the relevant
> > path cannot be defined in one of the files in this folder itself.
> > Since there do not seem to be any CM settings in the registry (and
> > not in the program folder C:\Program Files (x86)\Claws Mail) I fear
> > that it's hard coded into CM that the config folder location is under
> > the /Users folder as defined by the relevant environment variable ?
> > It would be nice to have that automatically backed up with all my data.
> >
>
>You can use whatever path to configuration you need by running
>claws-mail.exe with "--alternate-config-dir c:\path\to\config" option.
>You can add this in Properties of the desktop shortcut.
>
> > This is alredy OT, hopefully you don't mind: How for X's sake can I
> > change the language of CM's user interface ? It defaults me to the
> > system locale but I need something different. I've already had a look
> > at clawsrc and in the GUI settings menu item but no luck there.
>
>You can control the language by changing the "lang" environment
>variable. See http://www.rarst.net/software/change-interface-language/
>for a nice description.

Well, those two hints solve everything, thank you :) (I promise I'll 
look at the manpages first next time.)

Regards
Martin




From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Tue Oct 20 00:24:11 2015
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:24:11 -0400
Subject: [Users] extended search shot circuit
In-Reply-To: <20151019190836.2837a151@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
References: <20151019184233.01436284@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
 <593D305E-67AF-448A-9C31-F1255951123E@colino.net>
 <20151019185917.5abf3910@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
 <20151019190836.2837a151@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
Message-ID: <20151019182411.217a9fe4@mydesk.domain.cxm>

On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 19:08:36 -0200
"Ethy H. Brito" <ethy.brito at inexo.com.br> wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:59:17 -0200
> "Ethy H. Brito" <ethy.brito at inexo.com.br> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 22:50:11 +0200
> > Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > Yes, it does; priority is left to right. 
> > > I usually prefix body searches with f or al to get speedier
> > > results. 
> > 
> > I suspected that, since it is a "C" descendant program.
> > 
> > But my times are too high.
> > 
> > I am using "f mr_doe & b some_word". 
> > It is running now for more than 5 minutes for a universe of 5500
> > INBOX emails.
> > 
> > Is there a limit on the number of chained expressions?
> > "... & ... & ... & ..." is a valid expression?
> > 
> > I get a red background input field when I add the third "&"!
> 
> Correcting: when I add the SECOND "&".
> 
> Sorry.
> 
> Ethy

If there's a limit, it's a lot higher than 2 or 3.

Where quotes go counts. They should go only on search strings, and
never include the f or b or al.

SteveT
 
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 20 01:27:36 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 23:27:36 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3543] New: recent message causes mimeview to open html
 from a previously viewed html message
Message-ID: <bug-3543-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3543

            Bug ID: 3543
           Summary: recent message causes mimeview to open html from a
                    previously viewed html message
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message View
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: pf at pfortin.com

See list archive:
 http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2015-October/014546.html

Not sure what the trigger is yet; but I moved the message into a fresh CM
instance and cm --debug reports this when I try to view the html via Fancy:
mimeview.c:842:text/html
fancy_viewer.c:865:fancy_viewer_create
Vector smash protection is enabled.
fancy_viewer.c:83:fancy_get_widget: 0x1b06930
fancy_viewer.c:83:fancy_get_widget: 0x1b06930
fancy_viewer.c:233:filename:
/home/pf3/.claws-mail/mimetmp/00000001.mimetmp.html
fancy_viewer.c:249:using UTF-8 charset
fancy_viewer.c:252:zoom_level: 100
fancy_viewer.c:385:navigation requested to
file:///home/pf3/.claws-mail/mimetmp/00000001.mimetmp.html
openjdk version "1.8.0_60"
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_60-b27)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.60-b23, mixed mode)
fancy_viewer.c:444:Starting request of 58
file:///home/pf3/.claws-mail/mimetmp/00000001.mimetmp.html

There seems to be a corner case where the current message number is not updated
before calling mimeview.  In fact, I can view any message in any folder and:
1) if the last viewed message has html, last message's html is what I see; or, 
2) if the last viewed message has no html, I get a blank text area.

So far, things I've found wrong with the trigger message are:
- a mismatched double-quote -- removing it doesn't change anything obvious.
- missing href="..." on 4th anchor -- adding it doesn't help
- missing html code, such as:
  <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.=
  w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
  <html xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
  ...
  </html>

Adding the above html code allowed Fancy to display the html portion.

While this is a sender error; the CM bug is in not at least initializing the
message pointer to avoid displaying some other message's content.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 20 01:45:50 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 23:45:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3543] recent message causes mimeview to open html from
 a previously viewed html message
In-Reply-To: <bug-3543-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3543-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3543-595-PDQLfKWaS5@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3543

--- Comment #1 from Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> ---
Reported bad email structure to Samsung...  hope they fix it; but not going to
hold my breath...

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From ethy.brito at inexo.com.br  Tue Oct 20 01:56:09 2015
From: ethy.brito at inexo.com.br (Ethy H. Brito)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 21:56:09 -0200
Subject: [Users] extended search shot circuit
In-Reply-To: <20151019182411.217a9fe4@mydesk.domain.cxm>
References: <20151019184233.01436284@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
 <593D305E-67AF-448A-9C31-F1255951123E@colino.net>
 <20151019185917.5abf3910@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
 <20151019190836.2837a151@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
 <20151019182411.217a9fe4@mydesk.domain.cxm>
Message-ID: <20151019215609.1ed7e36e@babalu>

On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:24:11 -0400
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 19:08:36 -0200
> "Ethy H. Brito" <ethy.brito at inexo.com.br> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:59:17 -0200
> > "Ethy H. Brito" <ethy.brito at inexo.com.br> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 22:50:11 +0200
> > > Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > Yes, it does; priority is left to right. 
> > > > I usually prefix body searches with f or al to get speedier
> > > > results. 
> > > 
> > > I suspected that, since it is a "C" descendant program.
> > > 
> > > But my times are too high.
> > > 
> > > I am using "f mr_doe & b some_word". 
> > > It is running now for more than 5 minutes for a universe of 5500
> > > INBOX emails.
> > > 
> > > Is there a limit on the number of chained expressions?
> > > "... & ... & ... & ..." is a valid expression?
> > > 
> > > I get a red background input field when I add the third "&"!
> > 
> > Correcting: when I add the SECOND "&".
> > 
> > Sorry.
> > 
> > Ethy
> 
> If there's a limit, it's a lot higher than 2 or 3.
> 
> Where quotes go counts. They should go only on search strings, and
> never include the f or b or al.

Ok.

That addressed one problem.
I typed 

	f "mr_doe" & al 30 & b "some_word"

quotes included. Worked as expected.

But the time to complete is still very high.
I can see CM "reaching out" for imapd server.

"Network Log" shows:
[21:49:04] IMAP4< * SEARCH 172522
[21:49:09] IMAP4<  172574
[21:49:15] IMAP4<  172633
[21:49:15] IMAP4<  172634
[21:49:19] IMAP4<  172754
[21:49:20] IMAP4<  172832
[21:49:20] IMAP4<  172845
[21:49:21] IMAP4<  172859
[21:49:21] IMAP4<  172884
[21:49:22] IMAP4<  172895
[21:49:22] IMAP4<  172933
[21:49:23] IMAP4<  173003
[21:49:26] IMAP4<  173044
[21:49:28] IMAP4<  173088
[21:49:30] IMAP4<  173106
...

Roughly it took 30 seconds to "scan" 15 messages up to this moment.
What may be holding these scans?

Any thoughts?

Regards

Ethy


> 
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>  
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 20 04:44:43 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 02:44:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3545] New: Support to view encrypted (password
	protected) PDF
Message-ID: <bug-3545-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3545

            Bug ID: 3545
           Summary: Support to view encrypted (password protected) PDF
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: other
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/PDF Viewer
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: bleketux at gmail.com

Created attachment 1580
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1580&action=edit
error message if the PDF is encrypted (password protected).

Sometime I receive an email with password protected PDF attached. I cannot view
it directly on claws-mail since there's no support yet for password protected
PDF.

If possible, please add support to view encrypted (password protected) PDF
file.

Thanks in advance.

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From colin at colino.net  Tue Oct 20 09:31:31 2015
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 09:31:31 +0200
Subject: [Users] extended search shot circuit
In-Reply-To: <20151019185917.5abf3910@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
References: <20151019184233.01436284@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
 <593D305E-67AF-448A-9C31-F1255951123E@colino.net>
 <20151019185917.5abf3910@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
Message-ID: <20151020093131.320876cf@colin.i-run.lau>

On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:59:17 -0200, "Ethy H. Brito"
<ethy.brito at inexo.com.br> wrote:

> But my times are too high.
> 
> I am using "f mr_doe & b some_word". 
> It is running now for more than 5 minutes for a universe of 5500
> INBOX emails.

The problem is probably that Claws doesn't have (or doesn't think it
has) the email bodies cached.
Maybe you can check if it fetches bodies using the Network log.

Test on a little folder: if it fetches bodies again and again when you
do searches, there's a problem. If it does so only once, then it's
normal. 

You can check "Synchronise for offline use" in folder properties to
have bodies automatically fetched.

> Is there a limit on the number of chained expressions?
> "... & ... & ... & ..." is a valid expression?
> 
> I get a red background input field when I add the third "&"!

It should work.


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From clawsmailuser at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 10:29:29 2015
From: clawsmailuser at gmail.com (Claws mail user)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 09:29:29 +0100
Subject: [Users] Up and down arrow keys in message list
In-Reply-To: <bug-3540-595-6FIkvwHCyb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3293-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3540-595-6FIkvwHCyb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20151020092929.46aa561a@Spare-room.home>

Currently in my installation of Claws-mail the P and N keys bring up
the message preview but the up and down arrow keys don't (the focus
just moves to the previous or next message subject). Is it possible to
get the arrow  keys to behave like P and N?    


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 20 10:31:52 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 08:31:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3151] loaded vCalendar plugin "disables" gnome-shells
 calendar view entries
In-Reply-To: <bug-3151-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3151-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3151-595-SbcmhgVEvO@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3151

--- Comment #8 from swbraun at gmx.net ---
After looking into vcal_dbus.c it looks like the plugin is "hijacking" the
gnome shell calendar server functionality on purpose.
This should not be the case since CM is mostly a MUA and I don't expect any
application to change my desktop environments default behaviour without my
knowledge.
So the default for the vcal-plugin should be not to export the calendar with an
option to do so if anyone (is there really anyone how needs that?) doesn't want
the gnome shell calender be handled by the shell.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 20 10:57:44 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 08:57:44 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3151] loaded vCalendar plugin "disables" gnome-shells
 calendar view entries
In-Reply-To: <bug-3151-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3151-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3151-595-5Eyio8NX5u@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3151

--- Comment #9 from Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> ---
Yeah, probably the best would be a preference to turn this off.

I was thinking that D-Bus interfaces were meant to have multiple users and that
Gnome-Shell would then be able to get events from multiple sources.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 20 11:28:35 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 09:28:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3544] "** (cm:6714): WARNING **: contents differ"
 needs more info
In-Reply-To: <bug-3544-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3544-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3544-595-Vuqjoqd9yw@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3544

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
You could, of course, turn off 'Automatically accept valid SSL certificates' in
your account preferences, then you would know.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 20 12:20:38 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 10:20:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3151] loaded vCalendar plugin "disables" gnome-shells
 calendar view entries
In-Reply-To: <bug-3151-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3151-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3151-595-U5uw5OVnV0@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3151

--- Comment #10 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #9)
> Yeah, probably the best would be a preference to turn this off.
> 
> I was thinking that D-Bus interfaces were meant to have multiple users and
> that Gnome-Shell would then be able to get events from multiple sources.

I've not started anything with this, so if you want to implement this fix it
would be superb :-)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 20 12:37:49 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 10:37:49 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3521] Mbox import from Thunderbird crashes on
	completion
In-Reply-To: <bug-3521-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3521-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3521-595-URVO72tE11@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3521

--- Comment #4 from cm at jonlawson.com ---
Ok. I've tried all the mbox files I have on both versions and the crash occurs
every time with 3.12.0 but never with 3.13.0. I suspect it's unrelated to the
import function, rather something to do with notification.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 20 13:13:11 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 11:13:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3521] Mbox import from Thunderbird crashes on
	completion
In-Reply-To: <bug-3521-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3521-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3521-595-5SqvkASqwm@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3521

--- Comment #5 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
That's good news. But what if you unload the notification plugin on 3.12.0?

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From andrej at kacian.sk  Tue Oct 20 13:14:52 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 13:14:52 +0200
Subject: [Users] Up and down arrow keys in message list
In-Reply-To: <20151020092929.46aa561a@Spare-room.home>
References: <bug-3293-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3540-595-6FIkvwHCyb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <20151020092929.46aa561a@Spare-room.home>
Message-ID: <20151020131452.6b78e7b9@hiker>

On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 09:29:29 +0100
Claws mail user <clawsmailuser at gmail.com> wrote:

> Currently in my installation of Claws-mail the P and N keys bring up
> the message preview but the up and down arrow keys don't (the focus
> just moves to the previous or next message subject). Is it possible to
> get the arrow  keys to behave like P and N?    

In preferences, on Display/Summaries page, there is an "Open message
when selected" option. Set that to "Always".

Regards,
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From ethy.brito at inexo.com.br  Tue Oct 20 14:30:38 2015
From: ethy.brito at inexo.com.br (Ethy H. Brito)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 10:30:38 -0200
Subject: [Users] extended search shot circuit
In-Reply-To: <20151020093131.320876cf@colin.i-run.lau>
References: <20151019184233.01436284@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
 <593D305E-67AF-448A-9C31-F1255951123E@colino.net>
 <20151019185917.5abf3910@pulsar.inexo.com.br>
 <20151020093131.320876cf@colin.i-run.lau>
Message-ID: <20151020103038.519176aa@pulsar.inexo.com.br>

On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 09:31:31 +0200
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:59:17 -0200, "Ethy H. Brito"
> <ethy.brito at inexo.com.br> wrote:
> 
> > But my times are too high.
> > 
> > I am using "f mr_doe & b some_word". 
> > It is running now for more than 5 minutes for a universe of 5500
> > INBOX emails.
> 
> The problem is probably that Claws doesn't have (or doesn't think it
> has) the email bodies cached.
> Maybe you can check if it fetches bodies using the Network log.

I did. It is going to fetch them.

> 
> Test on a little folder: if it fetches bodies again and again when you
> do searches, there's a problem. If it does so only once, then it's
> normal. 
> 
> You can check "Synchronise for offline use" in folder properties to
> have bodies automatically fetched.

Is this for (re)build .claws-mail/imapcache/ ?

This option is off. I turned it off because, from time to time, out of the blue,
CM freezes and goes resynchronize the folders rendering itself dead for,
literally, several dozens of minutes.
But unfortunately it seems that turning it off have not terminated this behavior. 
I still suffer with this.

> 
> > Is there a limit on the number of chained expressions?
> > "... & ... & ... & ..." is a valid expression?
> > 
> > I get a red background input field when I add the third "&"!
> 
> It should work.

It did but I had to put quotes around the strings, that is,
	f string & b string 
works, but
	f string & al 30 & b string works
gives me the red input field.

I had to write:
	f "string" & al 30 & b "string"
(no spaces in *string*)

Feature or bug?

Regards

Ethy

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 20 14:36:27 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 12:36:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3545] Support to view encrypted (password protected)
	PDF
In-Reply-To: <bug-3545-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3545-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3545-595-DD2Ns1iaQg@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3545

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
This is now implemented in GIT.

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From clawsmailuser at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 15:59:21 2015
From: clawsmailuser at gmail.com (Claws mail user)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 14:59:21 +0100
Subject: [Users] Up and down arrow keys in message list
In-Reply-To: <20151020131452.6b78e7b9@hiker>
References: <bug-3293-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3540-595-6FIkvwHCyb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <20151020092929.46aa561a@Spare-room.home>
 <20151020131452.6b78e7b9@hiker>
Message-ID: <20151020145921.62f1a89a@Spare-room.home>

On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 13:14:52 +0200
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 09:29:29 +0100
> Claws mail user <clawsmailuser at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Currently in my installation of Claws-mail the P and N keys bring up
> > the message preview but the up and down arrow keys don't (the focus
> > just moves to the previous or next message subject). Is it possible
> > to get the arrow  keys to behave like P and N?      
> 
> In preferences, on Display/Summaries page, there is an "Open message
> when selected" option. Set that to "Always".
> 
> Regards,

Thank you that solves the issue 


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 20 16:01:54 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 14:01:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3543] recent message causes mimeview to open html from
 a previously viewed html message
In-Reply-To: <bug-3543-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3543-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3543-595-2vhIBkrSLm@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3543

--- Comment #2 from Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> ---
Unloaded all plugins except Fancy.
Restarted with --debug.
Opened non-broken message & viewed its html, then switched to broken one and
got:

fancy_viewer.c:385:navigation requested to about:blank
fancy_viewer.c:362:fancy_clear_viewer
    message/rfc822 (offset:0 length:15100 encoding: 6)
        text/html (offset:3154 length:11946 encoding: 3)
fancy_viewer.c:385:navigation requested to about:blank
fancy_viewer.c:362:fancy_clear_viewer
fancy_viewer.c:385:navigation requested to about:blank
fancy_viewer.c:362:fancy_clear_viewer
textview.c:713:TIMING textview_add_part : 0s000ms
textview.c:829:TIMING textview_add_part : 0s010ms
textview.c:846:TIMING recursive_add_parts : 0s010ms
textview.c:892:TIMING recursive_add_parts : 0s010ms
textview.c:652:TIMING textview_show_part : 0s011ms
summaryview.c:3658:TIMING summary_display_msg_full : 0s016ms

at this point, html not displayed. Clicked on icon and got:

mimeview.c:842:text/html
fancy_viewer.c:83:fancy_get_widget: 0x13df330

(cm:8315): GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 1077 was not found when attempting to
remove it
fancy_viewer.c:233:filename:
/home/pf3/.claws-mail/mimetmp/00000002.mimetmp.html
fancy_viewer.c:249:using UTF-8 charset
fancy_viewer.c:252:zoom_level: 100
fancy_viewer.c:385:navigation requested to
file:///home/pf3/.claws-mail/mimetmp/00000002.mimetmp.html
fancy_viewer.c:444:Starting request of 58
file:///home/pf3/.claws-mail/mimetmp/00000002.mimetmp.html

with html from previously viewed msg showing...

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 20 16:35:43 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 14:35:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3546] New: IMAP Count of Messages
Message-ID: <bug-3546-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3546

            Bug ID: 3546
           Summary: IMAP Count of Messages
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.13.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: tio.madrid at hotmail.com

Count of messages is not updated when having moved message from inbox to bin.
Correct count of messages is only processed and displayed after next IMAP
message retrieval.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 20 16:46:37 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 14:46:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3547] New: S/MIME Feature Request
Message-ID: <bug-3547-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3547

            Bug ID: 3547
           Summary: S/MIME Feature Request
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.13.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: tio.madrid at hotmail.com

Can you please built in S/MIME support out of the box to claws-mail and make
settings similar to the GUI of other popular email clients?

I found http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/S/MIME_howto on Windows 7 with
gpg4win impossible to set up.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 20 16:47:37 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 14:47:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3543] recent message causes mimeview to open html from
 a previously viewed html message
In-Reply-To: <bug-3543-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3543-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3543-595-SBQfMOuYZ2@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3543

--- Comment #3 from Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> ---
This comment only concerns contents of ~/.claws-mail/mimetmp/

3.13git20 - new instance containing only:
- initial CM welcome msg - no html ("W" below)
- broken html msg ("B" below)
- good html msg ("G" below)

~/.claws-mail/mimetmp/ is empty at startup.

Switch to G:
-rw------- 1 pf3 pf3 2994 Oct 20 10:36 claws.ADPP6X  (G:txt)

Display G html: 
-rw-rw-r-- 1 pf3 pf3 51442 Oct 20 10:36 00000000.mimetmp.html  (G:html)
-rw------- 1 pf3 pf3  2994 Oct 20 10:36 claws.ADPP6X           (G:txt)
-rw------- 1 pf3 pf3 51442 Oct 20 10:36 claws.UFJN6X           (G:html)

Switch to B:
-rw-rw-r-- 1 pf3 pf3 51442 Oct 20 10:36 00000000.mimetmp.html  (G:html)
-rw------- 1 pf3 pf3 11240 Oct 20 10:37 claws.DRQ56X           (B:html)

Display B html:
-rw-rw-r-- 1 pf3 pf3 11240 Oct 20 10:38 00000002.mimetmp.html  (B:html)
-rw------- 1 pf3 pf3 11240 Oct 20 10:37 claws.DRQ56X           (B:html)

Switch back to G:
-rw-rw-r-- 1 pf3 pf3 11240 Oct 20 10:38 00000002.mimetmp.html  (B:html)
-rw------- 1 pf3 pf3  2994 Oct 20 10:39 claws.HPUO6X           (G:txt)

Display G html:
-rw-rw-r-- 1 pf3 pf3 51442 Oct 20 10:39 00000003.mimetmp.html  (G:html)
-rw------- 1 pf3 pf3 51442 Oct 20 10:39 claws.7AFQ6X           (G:html)
-rw------- 1 pf3 pf3  2994 Oct 20 10:39 claws.HPUO6X           (G:txt)

Switch to W:
-rw-rw-r-- 1 pf3 pf3 51442 Oct 20 10:39 00000003.mimetmp.html  (G:html)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 20 17:30:47 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 15:30:47 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3543] recent message causes mimeview to open html from
 a previously viewed html message
In-Reply-To: <bug-3543-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3543-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3543-595-QCJB7KeRkm@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3543

--- Comment #4 from Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> ---
Created attachment 1581
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log file

Start CM[1], opens with nothing displayed.
Switch to inbox, msgs display; but none open
Click on W
Click on G
Display G html
Click on B
Display B html
Click close button

[1] Pretty much virgin...  only Fancy loaded.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 20 23:32:33 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 21:32:33 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3513] Can't delete multiple selected e-mails
In-Reply-To: <bug-3513-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3513-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3513-595-viRqSDmWf3@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3513

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #4 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
This has been fixed in git, and the fix will be in next release.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 20 23:33:25 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 21:33:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2490] Selecting mails through Shift-Home/End doesn't
 work properly
In-Reply-To: <bug-2490-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2490-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2490-595-BCEh6TiBuj@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2490

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #4 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Shift+Home/End has been fixed long time ago, and now other similar selection
key combinations are fixed as well.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 20 23:34:06 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 21:34:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1959] Selection selects too many under expanded view
In-Reply-To: <bug-1959-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1959-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1959-595-7FQoFCNeLP@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1959

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #4 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Fixed in git now.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 20 23:34:20 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 21:34:20 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1959] Selection selects too many under expanded view
In-Reply-To: <bug-1959-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1959-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1959-595-fK4OQLLAhB@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1959

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |gregsharp.geo at yahoo.com

--- Comment #5 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
*** Bug 3513 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 20 23:34:20 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 21:34:20 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3513] Can't delete multiple selected e-mails
In-Reply-To: <bug-3513-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3513-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3513-595-PNBuAZGFhE@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3513

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
         Resolution|FIXED                       |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #5 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 1959 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 20 23:34:43 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 21:34:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1959] Selection selects too many under expanded view
In-Reply-To: <bug-1959-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1959-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1959-595-PCOkO038fg@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1959

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |idl0r at qasl.de

--- Comment #6 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
*** Bug 2490 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 20 23:34:43 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 21:34:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2490] Selecting mails through Shift-Home/End doesn't
 work properly
In-Reply-To: <bug-2490-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2490-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2490-595-GvdyT4cscK@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2490

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
         Resolution|FIXED                       |DUPLICATE

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*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 1959 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Oct 21 05:33:52 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 03:33:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3543] recent message causes mimeview to open html from
 a previously viewed html message
In-Reply-To: <bug-3543-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3543-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3543-595-HioON3AGGV@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3543

--- Comment #5 from Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> ---
I didn't continue learning C over the years, so this is puzzling to me:

mimeview.c:819:
static MimeViewer *get_viewer_for_content_type(MimeView *mimeview, const gchar
*content_type)
mimeview.c:875:
static MimeViewer *get_viewer_for_mimeinfo(MimeView *mimeview, MimeInfo
*partinfo)

Isn't this 2 declarations with the same name?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Oct 21 10:00:29 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 08:00:29 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3543] recent message causes mimeview to open html from
 a previously viewed html message
In-Reply-To: <bug-3543-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3543-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3543-595-TVcn063mDq@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3543

--- Comment #6 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #5)
> I didn't continue learning C over the years, so this is puzzling to me:
> 
> mimeview.c:819:
> static MimeViewer *get_viewer_for_content_type(MimeView *mimeview, const
> gchar *content_type)
> mimeview.c:875:
> static MimeViewer *get_viewer_for_mimeinfo(MimeView *mimeview, MimeInfo
> *partinfo)
> 
> Isn't this 2 declarations with the same name?

No, it isn't :) one is named "get_viewer_for_content_type" and the other
"get_viewer_for_mimeinfo".

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Oct 21 11:25:17 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 09:25:17 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3543] recent message causes mimeview to open html from
 a previously viewed html message
In-Reply-To: <bug-3543-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3543-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3543-595-TtgQ52qfCO@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3543

--- Comment #7 from Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> ---
Last time I wrote any C was when the language manual was the original K&R
book...  it has changed immensely since then...  though if I'd read
the rest of these statements, the parens would have been a clue...  :)

That and lack of sleep... 
Cheers!

BTW, list members often complain about message copies sent to the list and
directly...  so why does CM's bugzilla send two copies?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Oct 21 11:48:52 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 09:48:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3543] recent message causes mimeview to open html from
 a previously viewed html message
In-Reply-To: <bug-3543-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3543-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3543-595-xhlJlwwQ50@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3543

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Created attachment 1582
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reply from Samsung

Sorry for the screenshot; but:

1. it's the replay from Samsung from which I can't copy/paste because the reply
is treated mostly as a single link (all green).

2. now that I have 2 broken replies, I can open a good message and then switch
back and forth between the 2 bad ones and Fancy always displays the content of
that last good message viewed

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Oct 21 12:04:06 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 10:04:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3427] Timezone of start/finish time is not taken into
	account
In-Reply-To: <bug-3427-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3427-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3427-595-CCytlNeN4i@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3427

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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From boxcars at gmx.net  Wed Oct 21 17:15:52 2015
From: boxcars at gmx.net (=?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?=)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 10:15:52 -0500
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3543] recent message causes mimeview to open html
 from a previously viewed html message
References: <bug-3543-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3543-595-TtgQ52qfCO@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20151021101552.0d59ad2a@sepulchrave.remarqs>

On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 09:25:17 +0000
noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:

> BTW, list members often complain about message copies sent to the
> list and directly...  so why does CM's bugzilla send two copies?

Sending mail to the reporter is the default, probably because bugzilla
can't know whether the reporter subscribes to the ml or not.  You can
change your e-mail preferences via bugzilla, though.  "Automatically
add me to the CC list of bugs I change" (default never) is on the
General Preferences tab and choices about when to receive e-mail are on
the Email Preferences tab.



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 20 12:20:38 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 10:20:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3151] loaded vCalendar plugin "disables" gnome-shells
 calendar view entries
In-Reply-To: <bug-3151-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3151-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3151-595-QydXxR1DBI@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3151

--- Comment #11 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2015-10-21 22:56:02.251323707 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=7658f37a6879cafccaa8bdbbb66407989e195cb8
Merge: 3b1a919 ffd9bc6
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Wed Oct 21 22:56:01 2015 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=ffd9bc6151435337ee70f87496ef5d5def24d20c
Author: Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
Date:   Wed Oct 21 22:54:47 2015 +0200

    Fix bug #3151 ‘loaded vCalendar plugin "disables"…

    …gnome-shells calendar view entries’

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From clifflaine at europe.com  Thu Oct 22 12:45:07 2015
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 11:45:07 +0100
Subject: [Users] Importing PGP keys
Message-ID: <20151022114507.74b3d789@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

I'm trying to get to grips with CM's PGP plugins, and most of it is
fairly easy, following a tutorial at
http://www.ghacks.net/2009/07/11/encrypting-email-in-claws-mail/

At the moment I use gpg4usb to manage my keys, but it would be easier
to do all this from inside CM.

However, I'm a bit stuck when I get to this sentence:  "In order to use
[encryption] you have to have the keys imported that you are to use. If
you have a key imported into your systems' PGP all you will have to do
is enter the passphrase for the key."

Could anyone tell me how to import keys into CM -- preferably from a
GUI rather than a command line ? I've got gnupg on my system.

Cliff


From clifflaine at europe.com  Thu Oct 22 12:52:38 2015
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 11:52:38 +0100
Subject: [Users] Importing PGP keys
In-Reply-To: <20151022114507.74b3d789@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20151022114507.74b3d789@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20151022115238.76e571b8@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 11:45:07 +0100
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote:

> 
> Could anyone tell me how to import keys into CM -- preferably from a
> GUI rather than a command line ? I've got gnupg on my system.
> 

I mean -- is there an easier way that the huge long command that
someone called Paul (I wonder :) ) posted in the first comment: 

* inline-signed
Create an Action (/Configuration/Actions) that has the following
  command, changing the keyserver to suit your tastes: ID=`gpg --verify
  %p 3>&1 1>&2 2>&3 |grep "key ID"|tr -d "[:space:]"|tail -c8`;echo
  "==== Fetching $ID ===="; gpg --no-tty --keyserver wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net
  --recv-keys $ID

Then, with the message selected and opened, run that Action
(/Tools/Actions/...).


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Thu Oct 22 13:02:14 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 13:02:14 +0200
Subject: [Users] Importing PGP keys
In-Reply-To: <20151022115238.76e571b8@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20151022114507.74b3d789@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20151022115238.76e571b8@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20151022130214.76bec004@archlinux.localdomain>

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 11:52:38 +0100, Cliff Laine wrote:
>On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 11:45:07 +0100
>Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote:
>
>> 
>> Could anyone tell me how to import keys into CM -- preferably from a
>> GUI rather than a command line ? I've got gnupg on my system.
>>   
>
>I mean -- is there an easier way that the huge long command that
>someone called Paul (I wonder :) ) posted in the first comment: 
>
>* inline-signed
>Create an Action (/Configuration/Actions) that has the following
>  command, changing the keyserver to suit your tastes: ID=`gpg --verify
>  %p 3>&1 1>&2 2>&3 |grep "key ID"|tr -d "[:space:]"|tail -c8`;echo
>  "==== Fetching $ID ===="; gpg --no-tty --keyserver wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net
>  --recv-keys $ID
>
>Then, with the message selected and opened, run that Action
>(/Tools/Actions/...).

I never used encryption with Claws, but I already used encryption and
you seemingly are confusing a few things.

The passphrase thingy is related to your key and importing public keys
to decrypt mails is something else.

You only one time need to type the commands to import public keys,
later you only need to use the mouse and click the action that runs the
commands.


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Thu Oct 22 13:12:44 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 13:12:44 +0200
Subject: [Users] Importing PGP keys
In-Reply-To: <20151022130214.76bec004@archlinux.localdomain>
References: <20151022114507.74b3d789@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20151022115238.76e571b8@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20151022130214.76bec004@archlinux.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20151022131244.70aa43d6@archlinux.localdomain>

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 13:02:14 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 11:52:38 +0100, Cliff Laine wrote:
>>On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 11:45:07 +0100
>>Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote:
>>  
>>> 
>>> Could anyone tell me how to import keys into CM -- preferably from a
>>> GUI rather than a command line ? I've got gnupg on my system.
>>>     
>>
>>I mean -- is there an easier way that the huge long command that
>>someone called Paul (I wonder :) ) posted in the first comment: 
>>
>>* inline-signed
>>Create an Action (/Configuration/Actions) that has the following
>>  command, changing the keyserver to suit your tastes: ID=`gpg
>> --verify %p 3>&1 1>&2 2>&3 |grep "key ID"|tr -d "[:space:]"|tail
>> -c8`;echo "==== Fetching $ID ===="; gpg --no-tty --keyserver
>> wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net --recv-keys $ID
>>
>>Then, with the message selected and opened, run that Action
>>(/Tools/Actions/...).  
>
>I never used encryption with Claws, but I already used encryption and
>you seemingly are confusing a few things.
>
>The passphrase thingy is related to your key and importing public keys
>to decrypt mails is something else.
    ^^^^^^^ this should read encrypt :D, assumed you want to reply.
    Sure, those public keys from others are needed to verify the
    signing too and in most cases it's completely useless, since
    99,9999999999% of the users don't own keys to verify the ownership
    of a public key. Importing keys to check singed mails without a web
    of trust is ridiculous.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct 22 13:25:03 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 12:25:03 +0100
Subject: [Users] Importing PGP keys
In-Reply-To: <20151022114507.74b3d789@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20151022114507.74b3d789@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20151022122503.2bca1ca3@kujata.lan>

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 11:45:07 +0100
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote: 

> Could anyone tell me how to import keys into CM

You don't import them into Claws, you import them into your gpg
keyring.

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct 22 13:32:07 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 12:32:07 +0100
Subject: [Users] Importing PGP keys
In-Reply-To: <20151022131244.70aa43d6@archlinux.localdomain>
References: <20151022114507.74b3d789@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20151022115238.76e571b8@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20151022130214.76bec004@archlinux.localdomain>
 <20151022131244.70aa43d6@archlinux.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20151022123207.344708ee@kujata.lan>

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 13:12:44 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 

> Importing keys to check singed mails without a web
>     of trust is ridiculous.

What do you do when you want to verify the authenticity of a
download, for exxample? It's a rhetorical question.

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct 22 13:33:32 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 12:33:32 +0100
Subject: [Users] Importing PGP keys
In-Reply-To: <20151022114507.74b3d789@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20151022114507.74b3d789@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20151022123332.4dcd264e@kujata.lan>

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 11:45:07 +0100
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote: 

> I'm trying to get to grips with CM's PGP plugins

I think the first thing to do is learn about how GnuPG works.

with regards

Paul


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Thu Oct 22 13:38:41 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 13:38:41 +0200
Subject: [Users] Importing PGP keys
In-Reply-To: <20151022122503.2bca1ca3@kujata.lan>
References: <20151022114507.74b3d789@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20151022122503.2bca1ca3@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20151022133841.438e4197@archlinux.localdomain>

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 12:25:03 +0100, Paul wrote:
>On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 11:45:07 +0100
>Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote: 
>
>> Could anyone tell me how to import keys into CM  
>
>You don't import them into Claws, you import them into your gpg
>keyring.

... and this could be done by command line, e.g. using an alias

[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ grep "alias gkey" .bashrc 
alias gkey='gpg --keyserver hkp://pgp.uni-mainz.de --recv-keys'

or by creating an action, that automatically will get the ID and import
it.

You could copy and paste the commands provided by Paul. Once you
created that action, you never again need to copy and paste it, you
only have to click the action.

But again, be aware that it only makes sense, if you understand how gpg
works to sign something, resp. to check something that is singned. Just
downloading public keys, without owning keys to verify ownership of
those keys, is good for absolutely nothing.


From clifflaine at europe.com  Thu Oct 22 13:41:57 2015
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 12:41:57 +0100
Subject: [Users] Importing PGP keys
In-Reply-To: <20151022123332.4dcd264e@kujata.lan>
References: <20151022114507.74b3d789@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20151022123332.4dcd264e@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20151022124157.647b5768@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 12:33:32 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 11:45:07 +0100
> Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote: 
> 
> > I'm trying to get to grips with CM's PGP plugins
> 
> I think the first thing to do is learn about how GnuPG works.
> 

Yes, it's back to school about this. I have probably been using gpg4usb
without understanding the principles. (Although, I use the telephone
and a record player without understanding how those work either :) )

Clif


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Thu Oct 22 13:56:16 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 13:56:16 +0200
Subject: [Users] Importing PGP keys
In-Reply-To: <20151022123207.344708ee@kujata.lan>
References: <20151022114507.74b3d789@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20151022115238.76e571b8@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20151022130214.76bec004@archlinux.localdomain>
 <20151022131244.70aa43d6@archlinux.localdomain>
 <20151022123207.344708ee@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20151022135616.665a6d19@archlinux.localdomain>

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 12:32:07 +0100, Paul wrote:
>On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 13:12:44 +0200
>Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 
>
>> Importing keys to check singed mails without a web
>>     of trust is ridiculous.  
>
>What do you do when you want to verify the authenticity of a
>download, for exxample? It's a rhetorical question.

Hi Paul,

there always is the need to trust.

If you e.g. download a package, you need to trust the maintainer, you
need to trust the web of trust, that validates the public key of the
maintainer.

However, just downloading a public key from a server, without a web of
trust, or without getting the key from the owner private and not via
Internet, isn't secure.

Lapidary rhetorical questions to avoid a reply are exactly the reason
that I use gpg very seldom nowadays. Because it isn't discussed how gpg
works, it in most cases is used incorrectly, IOW it's not only rendered
useless, it becomes dangerous, since users guess something is secure,
while it isn't secure. It's better to be aware that something is
insecure, if it's insecure.

There are several pitfalls, some people e.g. even store messages
decrypted.

Security under Linux comes with a lot of myths for inexperienced users.

Some already consider downloading something and verifying it with a
checksum as being secure, but even a signed checksum is _not_ secure,
as long as the user can not validate the ownership of the public key.

Regards,
Ralf


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct 22 13:59:44 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 11:59:44 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3151] loaded vCalendar plugin "disables" gnome-shells
 calendar view entries
In-Reply-To: <bug-3151-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3151-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3151-595-aPGw9Ag6aJ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3151

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Thu Oct 22 14:05:20 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 14:05:20 +0200
Subject: [Users] Importing PGP keys
In-Reply-To: <20151022124157.647b5768@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20151022114507.74b3d789@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20151022123332.4dcd264e@kujata.lan>
 <20151022124157.647b5768@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20151022140520.70563bf9@archlinux.localdomain>

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 12:41:57 +0100, Cliff Laine wrote:
>On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 12:33:32 +0100
>Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 11:45:07 +0100
>> Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote: 
>>   
>> > I'm trying to get to grips with CM's PGP plugins  
>> 
>> I think the first thing to do is learn about how GnuPG works.
>>   
>
>Yes, it's back to school about this. I have probably been using gpg4usb
>without understanding the principles. (Although, I use the telephone
>and a record player without understanding how those work either :) )

But you perhaps don't expect secure privacy and/or ownership validation
when using a telephone or record player, while you expect a high level
of security, when using encryption or signing emails, source code and
all kinds of computer data. And you know how to use your telephone and
record player.

You don't need to understand the source code of the pgp tools you
are using, you need to learn how to use them correctly.

Regards,
Ralf


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct 22 14:26:51 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 12:26:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3543] recent message causes mimeview to open html from
 a previously viewed html message
In-Reply-To: <bug-3543-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3543-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3543-595-TTDFCZHRYE@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3543

--- Comment #9 from Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> ---
When switching between msgs, are all vars cleared|re-initialized? gdb has not
provided a better clue yet & C is quite verbose for my aging brain. :)

Testing shows that the minimum "correction" needed to a broken msg is the
addition of "<html>\n" to avoid the bug. The broken msgs are "Content-Type:
text/html;" (in header) -- non-multi-part. The html fancy displays is always
from the last html stuff displayed, no matter which folder it was from, nor how
long ago; {multi,single}-part in previous view doesn't affect the issue. 

Smells like some var(s) still contain(s) un[re]initialized data. Restarting CM
& going directly to a broken msg, fancy shows a blank pane -- or its html if
merely "<html>\n" is added.

I wondered about treating the text as html if "<" is the first character; but
finding the {pointer,data,file} containing the old info is the only
future-proof solution.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct 22 14:31:08 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 12:31:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3548] New: cannot directly subscribe authorised URLs
Message-ID: <bug-3548-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3548

            Bug ID: 3548
           Summary: cannot directly subscribe authorised URLs
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/RSSyl
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: mones at users.sourceforge.net

Created attachment 1583
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1583&action=edit
Error subscribing authorised feed

Trying to subscribe a new RSS URL under HTTP basic auth fails (see attached
image) and doesn't let you configure the feed.

Curiously, subscribing an nonexistent URL (e.g.:
http://this.is.a.complete.fake/) allows you to continue configuring the feed
and change it to the correct URL and set authentication, so the above can be
workarounded.

To improve usability new feeds returning 401 errors on first should be allowed
to be configured, like the fake ones.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct 22 18:56:55 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 16:56:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3549] New: No SendTo functionality
Message-ID: <bug-3549-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3549

            Bug ID: 3549
           Summary: No SendTo functionality
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.13.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: cm at jonlawson.com

Program only associates itself with the mailto: protocol and not the MAPI\Send
Mail protocol, making it (as far as I know) impossible to use the SendTo
function.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct 22 19:13:03 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 17:13:03 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3549] No SendTo functionality
In-Reply-To: <bug-3549-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3549-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3549-595-uJEvPzhRq5@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3549

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 2973 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct 22 19:13:03 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 17:13:03 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2973] "Set as Default Client" doesn't correctly set
 MAPI integration
In-Reply-To: <bug-2973-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2973-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2973-595-69WdF2nxQQ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2973

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

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                 CC|                            |cm at jonlawson.com

--- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
*** Bug 3549 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct 23 07:33:49 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 05:33:49 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3550] New: [i18n] .desktop files should be generated
 and translated, instead of being statically checked in
Message-ID: <bug-3550-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3550

            Bug ID: 3550
           Summary: [i18n] .desktop files should be generated and
                    translated, instead of being statically checked in
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: All
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Translations
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: khazarian at fastmail.in

TODO: make a claws-mail.desktop.in file that is translated and used to generate
the *.desktop files instead of having them statically checked into the source
repo.

From: https://bugs.launchpad.net/wicd/+bug/1404142

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct 23 10:14:18 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 08:14:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3550] [i18n] .desktop files should be generated and
 translated, instead of being statically checked in
In-Reply-To: <bug-3550-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3550-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3550-595-NwimjRC9A1@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3550

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |PATCHESWELCOME

--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
The desktop file is not a fast moving target like the application interface,
it's just a one-time translation effort, which would only need review if the
specification changes a lot, which seems unlikely.

FWIW I'm happy adding new strings, but if you have a clean patch fixing this,
let me know.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 19 10:12:08 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:12:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3375] Crash (SEGV) at gtkcmctree.c:4514 after deleting
 an unread message
In-Reply-To: <bug-3375-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3375-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3375-595-7Z0sS877sp@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3375

--- Comment #10 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2015-10-23 12:21:02.073484944 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=86631fd083a2d8d18997f86d312ecc970c885e29
Merge: 0adc584 3a611ed
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Fri Oct 23 12:21:01 2015 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=3a611edf84b769aa067d8de3c6a7447d482f1c1c
Author: Paul <paul at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Fri Oct 23 11:20:22 2015 +0100

    fix bug 3375, 'Crash (SEGV) at gtkcmctree.c:4514 after deleting an unread
message'

    Patch by Arthur Huillet.

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From bugreporter at abwesend.de  Fri Oct 23 12:28:03 2015
From: bugreporter at abwesend.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 12:28:03 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3375] Crash (SEGV) at gtkcmctree.c:4514 after
 deleting an unread message
In-Reply-To: <bug-3375-595-7Z0sS877sp@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3375-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3375-595-7Z0sS877sp@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20151023122803.0cae908b@noname>

On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:12:08 +0000, noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:

> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3375
> 
>     fix bug 3375, 'Crash (SEGV) at gtkcmctree.c:4514 after deleting an unread
> message'
> 
>     Patch by Arthur Huillet.

The patch is from the unnamed "Deweloper" in that ticket, comment 6.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct 23 12:31:49 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 11:31:49 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3375] Crash (SEGV) at gtkcmctree.c:4514 after
 deleting an unread message
In-Reply-To: <20151023122803.0cae908b@noname>
References: <bug-3375-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3375-595-7Z0sS877sp@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <20151023122803.0cae908b@noname>
Message-ID: <20151023113149.2d7227ef@kujata.lan>

On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 12:28:03 +0200
Michael Schwendt <bugreporter at abwesend.de> wrote: 

> The patch is from the unnamed "Deweloper" in that ticket, comment 6.

No, it's not. His patch was wrong. Check the changes against the
patch attached to the bug.

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct 23 12:32:22 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 10:32:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3375] Crash (SEGV) at gtkcmctree.c:4514 after deleting
 an unread message
In-Reply-To: <bug-3375-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3375-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3375-595-hk3MBoM9vC@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3375

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

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From bugreporter at abwesend.de  Fri Oct 23 13:23:02 2015
From: bugreporter at abwesend.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 13:23:02 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3375] Crash (SEGV) at gtkcmctree.c:4514 after
 deleting an unread message
In-Reply-To: <20151023113149.2d7227ef@kujata.lan>
References: <bug-3375-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3375-595-7Z0sS877sp@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <20151023122803.0cae908b@noname>
 <20151023113149.2d7227ef@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20151023132302.57f1f581@noname>

On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 11:31:49 +0100, Paul wrote:

> > The patch is from the unnamed "Deweloper" in that ticket, comment 6.
> 
> No, it's not. His patch was wrong. Check the changes against the
> patch attached to the bug.

Ah, I see. The ticket doesn't comment on any of that. Hence the
confusion.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct 23 17:28:21 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 15:28:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3550] [i18n] .desktop files should be generated and
 translated, instead of being statically checked in
In-Reply-To: <bug-3550-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3550-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3550-595-4i4PqCgwJB@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3550

--- Comment #2 from rezso <rezso at rezso.net> ---
Created attachment 1584
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1584&action=edit
Use intltool to translate strings in desktop file

I made this patch based on latest git source.
Currently the GenericName, Comment, [Desktop Action ComposeMail] Name and
[Desktop Action SendFile] Name translations will be lost after this patch,
because these strings are missing in the .pot file.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct 23 17:51:40 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 15:51:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3550] [i18n] .desktop files should be generated and
 translated, instead of being statically checked in
In-Reply-To: <bug-3550-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3550-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3550-595-wHepFwKey8@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3550

--- Comment #3 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
las time we tried intltool it was missing support for, iirc, 'distdir' and
created a nice mess.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct 23 21:16:21 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 19:16:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3550] [i18n] .desktop files should be generated and
 translated, instead of being statically checked in
In-Reply-To: <bug-3550-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3550-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3550-595-jj7yQ9xJBr@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3550

--- Comment #4 from rezso <rezso at rezso.net> ---
And now?
It work fine for me, with „normal” build.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Oct 24 03:33:43 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 01:33:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3551] New: collapsed thread after marking as read
	still bold
Message-ID: <bug-3551-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3551

            Bug ID: 3551
           Summary: collapsed thread after marking as read still bold
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Actions
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: thomasbellmann at gmx.net

When I select all mails of a collapsed thread and mark them as "read" the OP
mail is still displayed bold. 
Expanding the thread shows that all mails are marked as read and after
collapsing the OP mail remains displayed as "read".

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From moxalt at riseup.net  Sat Oct 24 05:51:22 2015
From: moxalt at riseup.net (moxalt)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 06:51:22 +0300
Subject: [Users] How to add extra dictionaries
Message-ID: <20151024065122.6fbaecd0@multivac>

How does one go about adding extra dictionaries to Claws? I install iczech, but
it isn't showing up in the dictionary list.


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sat Oct 24 12:41:44 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 12:41:44 +0200
Subject: [Users] How to add extra dictionaries
In-Reply-To: <20151024065122.6fbaecd0@multivac>
References: <20151024065122.6fbaecd0@multivac>
Message-ID: <20151024124144.06e8ff85@archlinux.localdomain>

On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 06:51:22 +0300, moxalt wrote:
>How does one go about adding extra dictionaries to Claws? I install
>iczech, but it isn't showing up in the dictionary list.

In which list isn't it shown?

Configuration > Preferences > Compose > Spell Checking > Default
alternate dictionary doesn't list it?

How did you install the dictionary?

Regards,
Ralf


From marioxcc.MT at yandex.com  Sat Oct 24 19:54:33 2015
From: marioxcc.MT at yandex.com (=?UTF-8?B?TWFyaW8gQ2FzdGVsw6FuIENhc3Rybw==?=)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 12:54:33 -0500
Subject: [Users] "-ERR Authentication failed" while trying to access
	RuggedInbox account
Message-ID: <562BC5D9.1070408@yandex.com>

Hello.

I am trying to use Claws-Mail with a RuggedInbox account through POP3. I 
configured the account using the wizard. I enabled TLS and used the 
right password.

When trying to fetch mail, I get the error stated in the title of this 
message. Consulting the log, I get this:

-----BEGIN PASTED OUTPUT-----
* Account 'mariotest4 at mail.ruggedinbox.com': Connecting to POP3 server: 
mail.ruggedinbox.com:995...
[12:43:40] POP3< +OK Welcome to ruggedinbox.com
[12:43:40] POP3> USER mariotest4
[12:43:40] POP3< +OK
[12:43:40] POP3> PASS ********
[12:43:43] POP3< -ERR Authentication failed.
*** error occurred on authentication
*** Authentication failed.
-----END PASTED OUTPUT-----

I thought that the problem was that I made a mistake while entering my 
password. I checked more than 5 times than I was using the right 
password, and to be completely sure that I wasn't writing it wrong (as 
far as I can be sure of what my senses tell me), I made another account 
with a trivial password. Neither effort solved the problem nor altered 
the reported error.

I can access this account using Icedove, which is the Debian rebranded 
version of Thunderbird.

I am using the version of Claws Mail included in Debian 8, which is 3.11.1.

What is causing this problem and how can I fix or work around this?.

Regards and thanks in advance.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Oct 24 20:18:01 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 19:18:01 +0100
Subject: [Users] "-ERR Authentication failed" while trying to access
 RuggedInbox account
In-Reply-To: <562BC5D9.1070408@yandex.com>
References: <562BC5D9.1070408@yandex.com>
Message-ID: <20151024191801.62c5c732@kujata.lan>

On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 12:54:33 -0500
Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc.MT at yandex.com> wrote: 

> What is causing this problem and how can I fix or work around this?.

For UserID try using your complete email address rather than just
your username.

with regards

Paul


From marioxcc.MT at yandex.com  Sat Oct 24 20:22:31 2015
From: marioxcc.MT at yandex.com (=?UTF-8?B?TWFyaW8gQ2FzdGVsw6FuIENhc3Rybw==?=)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 13:22:31 -0500
Subject: [Users] "-ERR Authentication failed" while trying to access
 RuggedInbox account
In-Reply-To: <20151024191801.62c5c732@kujata.lan>
References: <562BC5D9.1070408@yandex.com> <20151024191801.62c5c732@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <562BCC67.3020207@yandex.com>

El 24/10/15 a las 13:18, Paul escribió:
> On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 12:54:33 -0500
> Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc.MT at yandex.com> wrote:
>
>> What is causing this problem and how can I fix or work around this?.
>
> For UserID try using your complete email address rather than just
> your username.

It works with the complete e-mail address. Thanks!.



From moxalt at riseup.net  Sun Oct 25 05:09:49 2015
From: moxalt at riseup.net (moxalt)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 07:09:49 +0300
Subject: [Users] How to add extra dictionaries
In-Reply-To: <20151024124144.06e8ff85@archlinux.localdomain>
References: <20151024065122.6fbaecd0@multivac>
 <20151024124144.06e8ff85@archlinux.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20151025070949.30ba030c@multivac>

On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 12:41:44 +0200, Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com>
wrote:

> In which list isn't it shown?
> 
> Configuration > Preferences > Compose > Spell Checking > Default
> alternate dictionary doesn't list it?
> 
> How did you install the dictionary?

I installed the iczech package with apt-get. I am running Debian Testing.


From gusnan.mailinglists at openmailbox.org  Sun Oct 25 09:54:32 2015
From: gusnan.mailinglists at openmailbox.org (Andreas Ronnquist)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 09:54:32 +0100
Subject: [Users] Information from Gpg seems wrong
Message-ID: <20151025085532.4B0D12AC0E56@mail2.openmailbox.org>

Hi!

I have noticed lately that for messages signed with gpg keys that I
don't have in my key ring, Claws says:

> The signature can't be checked - End of file.

while I would expect something like

> Key 0xXXXXXXXX not available to verify this signature

using gpg --list-key on a key like this gives the following:

> gpg: using PGP trust model
> gpg: can't handle public key algorithm 22
> gpg: error reading key: public key not found

The information from Claws seems incorrect - Is this just me, and my
installation of gpg that is wrong in some way? This is on a Debian
stable machine with latest Claws from git.

Can anybody reproduce?

best regards
-- Andreas Rönnquist
gusnan.mailinglists at openmailbox.org
gusnan at openmailbox.org


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Oct 25 13:23:36 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 12:23:36 +0000
Subject: [Users] Information from Gpg seems wrong
In-Reply-To: <20151025085532.4B0D12AC0E56@mail2.openmailbox.org>
References: <20151025085532.4B0D12AC0E56@mail2.openmailbox.org>
Message-ID: <20151025122336.586f473f@kujata.lan>

On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 09:54:32 +0100
Andreas Ronnquist <gusnan.mailinglists at openmailbox.org> wrote: 

> The information from Claws seems incorrect - Is this just me, and my
> installation of gpg that is wrong in some way? This is on a Debian
> stable machine with latest Claws from git.

I think that is caused by a failed transition by GunPG of old format
keyrings to the new format in GnuPG 2.1.x, this happens when old keys
use ciphers that are not supported by GnuPG 2.1.

with regards

Paul


From gusnan.mailinglists at openmailbox.org  Sun Oct 25 13:39:21 2015
From: gusnan.mailinglists at openmailbox.org (Andreas Ronnquist)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 13:39:21 +0100
Subject: [Users] Information from Gpg seems wrong
In-Reply-To: <20151025122336.586f473f@kujata.lan>
References: <20151025085532.4B0D12AC0E56@mail2.openmailbox.org>
 <20151025122336.586f473f@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20151025124022.F33602AC211E@mail2.openmailbox.org>

On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 12:23:36 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 09:54:32 +0100
>Andreas Ronnquist <gusnan.mailinglists at openmailbox.org> wrote: 
>
>> The information from Claws seems incorrect - Is this just me, and my
>> installation of gpg that is wrong in some way? This is on a Debian
>> stable machine with latest Claws from git.  
>
>I think that is caused by a failed transition by GunPG of old format
>keyrings to the new format in GnuPG 2.1.x, this happens when old keys
>use ciphers that are not supported by GnuPG 2.1.
>

Well, I am running gpg 1.4.18, and gpg2 version 2.0.26, both directly
from the Debian stable repositories.

/Andreas


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Oct 25 14:27:03 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 13:27:03 +0000
Subject: [Users] Information from Gpg seems wrong
In-Reply-To: <20151025124022.F33602AC211E@mail2.openmailbox.org>
References: <20151025085532.4B0D12AC0E56@mail2.openmailbox.org>
 <20151025122336.586f473f@kujata.lan>
 <20151025124022.F33602AC211E@mail2.openmailbox.org>
Message-ID: <20151025132703.1018ec17@kujata.lan>

On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 13:39:21 +0100
Andreas Ronnquist <gusnan.mailinglists at openmailbox.org> wrote: 

> Well, I am running gpg 1.4.18, and gpg2 version 2.0.26, both
> directly from the Debian stable repositories.

Which are you using in Claws? Do they both give the same result?

with regards

Paul


From cronocloudauron at gmail.com  Sun Oct 25 15:25:16 2015
From: cronocloudauron at gmail.com (Ron Rogers Jr.)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 09:25:16 -0500
Subject: [Users] Information from Gpg seems wrong
In-Reply-To: <20151025124022.F33602AC211E@mail2.openmailbox.org>
References: <20151025085532.4B0D12AC0E56@mail2.openmailbox.org>
 <20151025122336.586f473f@kujata.lan>
 <20151025124022.F33602AC211E@mail2.openmailbox.org>
Message-ID: <20151025092516.1ba6f6d8@wutai>

On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 13:39:21 +0100
Andreas Ronnquist <gusnan.mailinglists at openmailbox.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 12:23:36 +0000
> Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> >I think that is caused by a failed transition by GunPG of old
> >format keyrings to the new format in GnuPG 2.1.x, this happens
> >when old keys use ciphers that are not supported by GnuPG 2.1.
> >
> 
> Well, I am running gpg 1.4.18, and gpg2 version 2.0.26, both
> directly from the Debian stable repositories.
> 
> /Andreas

I had the same issue, some time back.  Here's the fix I used:

cp -r ~/.gnupg ~/gpgOLD
gpg --export-ownertrust > ~/gpgOLD/otrust.txt
mkdir ~/gpgNEW
chmod 700 ~/gpgNEW
export GNUPGHOME=~/gpgNEW
gpg --import gpgOLD/pubring.gpg
gpg --import gpgOLD/secring.gpg
gpg --import-ownertrust ~/gpgOLD/otrust.txt

cd ~/.gnupg
gpg --export-ownertrust >otrust.lst
cp pubring.gpg publickeys
gpg2 --import-options import-local-sigs --import publickeys
gpg2 --import-ownertrust otrust.lst

That should do the trick.

CronoCloud



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From c.buhtz at posteo.jp  Mon Oct 26 19:36:04 2015
From: c.buhtz at posteo.jp (c.buhtz at posteo.jp)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 19:36:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] upgrade from 3.9.3 to 3.12
Message-ID: <3nl4db6Wq4z5vNN@dovecot03.posteo.de>

I am using claws-mail on Ubuntu 14.04 which use claws-mail in version
3.9.3. I use two this ubuntu on two different machines and just sync
the ~/.claws-mail and ~/.claws-box between them.
This work really fine when I take care of the case not using both
machines at the same time. ;)

I want to upgrade one machine (later the other, too) to Ubuntu 15.10
which use claws-mail in version 3.12.0.

Is there any difference in the "data structure" (I mean the mail-
and box-folder) between that two versions?

Maybe the new claws does a automatic convertion of the old data to a
new structure and doesn't tell me about it?

Or should the two folders work between the old and new version?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Oct 26 20:42:47 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 19:42:47 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3540] "fancy" not compiling/installing. 64 bit Linux
 Mint 16 and 17
In-Reply-To: <bug-3540-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3540-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3540-595-OvX0NvV0af@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3540

--- Comment #2 from Chris Hirst <claws-mail at fy3.co.uk> ---
Surely a "missing dependency" would raise an error or at least a warning that
something or other was missing?

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From andrej at kacian.sk  Mon Oct 26 23:16:23 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 23:16:23 +0100
Subject: [Users] upgrade from 3.9.3 to 3.12
In-Reply-To: <3nl4db6Wq4z5vNN@dovecot03.posteo.de>
References: <3nl4db6Wq4z5vNN@dovecot03.posteo.de>
Message-ID: <20151026231623.157b4da8@penny>

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 19:36:04 +0100
<c.buhtz at posteo.jp> wrote:

> Is there any difference in the "data structure" (I mean the mail-
> and box-folder) between that two versions?

I think there have been some additions to clawsrc and accountrc, but I
do not remember anything that would cause incompatibility. Note,
however, that 3.9.3 is almost three years old by now, so your best bet
is combination of:
a) review changelogs and/or release notes of all versions in between
   (a web search for "unleashed site:lists.claws-mail.org" should do the
   trick)
b) back up your folders before trying anything

Regards,
-- 
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From c.buhtz at posteo.jp  Tue Oct 27 09:48:15 2015
From: c.buhtz at posteo.jp (c.buhtz at posteo.jp)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 09:48:15 +0100
Subject: [Users] Does 3.12 check for old dataformat while start?
Message-ID: <3nlRWn0bTjz5vNM@dovecot03.posteo.de>

This question goes directly to the developers of claws-mail.

Does the current version (3.12) check while starting if the
config-files and data-folders (.claws-mail, .claws-box) are from on
older version of claws-mail?

Maybe this check is needed because the data structure changed between
this versions? In that case a message or conversation is done?
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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Tue Oct 27 12:01:17 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:01:17 +0100
Subject: [Users] Does 3.12 check for old dataformat while start?
In-Reply-To: <3nlRWn0bTjz5vNM@dovecot03.posteo.de>
References: <3nlRWn0bTjz5vNM@dovecot03.posteo.de>
Message-ID: <20151027120117.1b027b28@archlinux.localdomain>

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 09:48:15 +0100, c.buhtz at posteo.jp wrote:
>Does the current version (3.12)

Hi,

this reply isn't related to your question, I just want to inform you,
that 3.12. isn't the latest release. The current version is 3.13.

"3.13.0 (11-October-2015)" - http://www.claws-mail.org/releases.php

Regards,
Ralf


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 27 12:05:47 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:05:47 +0000
Subject: [Users] Does 3.12 check for old dataformat while start?
In-Reply-To: <3nlRWn0bTjz5vNM@dovecot03.posteo.de>
References: <3nlRWn0bTjz5vNM@dovecot03.posteo.de>
Message-ID: <20151027110547.1dd8b628@kujata.lan>

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 09:48:15 +0100
<c.buhtz at posteo.jp> wrote: 

> This question goes directly to the developers of claws-mail.
> 
> Does the current version (3.12) check while starting if the
> config-files and data-folders (.claws-mail, .claws-box) are from on
> older version of claws-mail?
> 
> Maybe this check is needed because the data structure changed
> between this versions? In that case a message or conversation is
> done?

See the answer that Andrej gave you already. Short answer is,
everything should be fine but, if in doubt, backup first.

with regards

Paul


From waterhouseandy at onetel.com  Tue Oct 27 18:29:24 2015
From: waterhouseandy at onetel.com (Andy Waterhouse)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 17:29:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] How may I view images within received emails?
Message-ID: <20151027172924.00005783@onetel.com>

Apologies if this isn't the way to ask questions but I find the whole
thing rather confusing. I guess there is no Claws email user forum?

If anyone is kind enough to answer my question about Claws email, could
I ask that you avoid acronyms and abbreviations in your reply as they
mean nothing to me. Also, please be specific but avoid jargon because
I will not understand your reply. Thanks.

How can I get images contained within emails to display in their
intended position within the email? I understand that I need to
download a 'plug-in' (if that's the correct term?) but
have been baffled by the options presented.

Thanks for your patience.

Regards,
Andy

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 27 19:12:06 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 18:12:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] How may I view images within received emails?
In-Reply-To: <20151027172924.00005783@onetel.com>
References: <20151027172924.00005783@onetel.com>
Message-ID: <20151027181206.291d94b4@kujata.lan>

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 17:29:24 +0000
Andy Waterhouse <waterhouseandy at onetel.com> wrote: 

> How can I get images contained within emails to display in their
> intended position within the email? I understand that I need to
> download a 'plug-in' (if that's the correct term?) but
> have been baffled by the options presented.

First visit this page and download and install the latest release:
http://www.claws-mail.org/win32/

You want the Fancy plugin.

Go to /Configuration/Plugins, click the Load button. A window will
open listing the plugins you have installed. Click the one called
fancy to load it.

Then go to the Fancy preferences page,
/Configuration/Preferences/Plugins/Fancy.

The minimum option you will want to set is the 'Display embedded
images' one. This loads the images which are included with the
message. It is advised against setting the 'Enable loading remote
content' option by default.

See also the 'HTML messages' frame on the
/Configuration/Preferences/Message View/Text Options page. You can
turn all 3 on. The latter 2 there mean that you won't have to
explicitly select the HTML message part of a message. Otherwise, you
will click the HTML message part icon from the right of the message
view.

When you have opened an HTML message part with Fancy, you will see a
button on the lower left corner below the message view. This enables
you to load remote content selectively, i.e. if you trust the sender.

I used an acronym: HTML, just as understandable as HyperText Markup
Language, I feel. Basically it means 'web page'.

HTH
with regards

Paul


From andrej at kacian.sk  Tue Oct 27 19:23:33 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:23:33 +0100
Subject: [Users] How may I view images within received emails?
In-Reply-To: <20151027181206.291d94b4@kujata.lan>
References: <20151027172924.00005783@onetel.com>
 <20151027181206.291d94b4@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20151027192333.5f03b45a@penny>

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 18:12:06 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> > How can I get images contained within emails to display in their
> > intended position within the email? I understand that I need to
> > download a 'plug-in' (if that's the correct term?) but
> > have been baffled by the options presented.  
> 
> First visit this page and download and install the latest release:
> http://www.claws-mail.org/win32/

The Fancy plugin is also included in Andy's current version - 3.12.0,
and it should work just fine.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Oct 27 20:08:32 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:08:32 +0000
Subject: [Users] How may I view images within received emails?
In-Reply-To: <20151027192333.5f03b45a@penny>
References: <20151027172924.00005783@onetel.com>
 <20151027181206.291d94b4@kujata.lan>
 <20151027192333.5f03b45a@penny>
Message-ID: <20151027190832.0a7bd68e@kujata.lan>

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:23:33 +0100
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote: 

> The Fancy plugin is also included in Andy's current version -
> 3.12.0, and it should work just fine.

Yes, I know. I was saying that because upgrading to the latest
version is something everyone should do. 

with regards

Paul


From linxt at comcast.net  Wed Oct 28 00:35:28 2015
From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 16:35:28 -0700
Subject: [Users] Threading problem in only one folder
Message-ID: <20151027163528.519461e7@desktop-1.home>

For some reason one and only one folder is no longer being threaded in the
message list.  All the other folders are being threaded normally.

I've been through the preferences and account settings but haven't found
anything pertinent.  There are no pre/post processing rules for this folder.

The only thing that makes sense to me is that the source of messages for that
folder (openSuSE) is stripping thread data.  Would that be possible?  The other
folder from that same source is factory (openSuSE) but it is being properly
threaded.

Thanks, Tom

CM 3.9.2
KDE  4.11.2
openSuSE  13.1

-- 

When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat.
  -  Anonymous

^^  --...  ...--  / -.-  --.  --...  -.-.  ..-.  -.-.

^^^^
Tom Taylor  KG7CFC
openSUSE 13.1 (64-bit), Kernel 3.11.6-4-default,
KDE 4.11.2, AMD A8-7600, GeForce GTX 740 T/PCIe/
16GB RAM -- 3x1.5TB sata2 -- 128GB-SSD
FF 37.0, claws-mail 3.9.2
registered linux user 263467


From andrej at kacian.sk  Wed Oct 28 07:56:37 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 07:56:37 +0100
Subject: [Users] Threading problem in only one folder
In-Reply-To: <20151027163528.519461e7@desktop-1.home>
References: <20151027163528.519461e7@desktop-1.home>
Message-ID: <20151028075637.66b4d9a6@penny>

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 16:35:28 -0700
Thomas Taylor <linxt at comcast.net> wrote:

> For some reason one and only one folder is no longer being threaded in the
> message list.  All the other folders are being threaded normally.

Hi, maybe you just disabled thread view for that particular folder by
mistake? Have a look at "View/Thread view" menu item. Its default
keyboard shortcut is Ctrl+T.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Oct 28 12:45:53 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:45:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3497] Claws mail freezes regularly with an MS Visual
 C++ runtime error
In-Reply-To: <bug-3497-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3497-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3497-595-5pnvvkS6qE@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3497

--- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Does it still happen with 3.13.0?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Oct 28 14:43:04 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 13:43:04 -0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3454] Attachments containing certain special
 characters in filename are not opened
In-Reply-To: <bug-3454-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3454-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3454-595-vuBm232pop@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3454

--- Comment #6 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2015-10-28 14:43:02.754394415 +0100
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=6760d6392bae6e54dd936ce6b874318a307d93e8
Merge: 017df26 84aca59
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Wed Oct 28 14:43:02 2015 +0100

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=84aca59b3633ca717d42805268ecae3310a7541d
Author: Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk>
Date:   Wed Oct 28 14:40:28 2015 +0100

    Convert filename to UTF-16 before passing it to ShellExecute().

    Closes bug #3454 (Windows).

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Oct 28 14:51:20 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 13:51:20 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3497] Claws mail freezes regularly with an MS Visual
 C++ runtime error
In-Reply-To: <bug-3497-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3497-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3497-595-qKMdga0YPh@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3497

--- Comment #4 from Bob Delamare <rjandgm.delamare at gmail.com> ---
I cannot tell you as I ditched Claws Mail soon after the earlier postings.

Email to me is a tool, not a way of life. If it doesn't earn its keep, it goes.

I now use another free email program, which works.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Oct 28 15:05:00 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 14:05:00 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3497] Claws mail freezes regularly with an MS Visual
 C++ runtime error
In-Reply-To: <bug-3497-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3497-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3497-595-rclaJ3ZoRk@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3497

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #5 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Fair enough.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Oct 28 15:34:05 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 14:34:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2194] Address Collector should not create multiple
 copies of the same address book
In-Reply-To: <bug-2194-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2194-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2194-595-rjwEcgKQmz@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2194

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
          Component|default                     |UI/Address Book
           Hardware|PC                          |All
            Version|3.7.4                       |3.13.0
            Product|Claws Mail (Windows)        |Claws Mail
                 OS|Windows NT                  |All
           Severity|normal                      |enhancement

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
This behavior is still there in newest version, regardless of the platform.

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From c.buhtz at posteo.jp  Wed Oct 28 21:05:55 2015
From: c.buhtz at posteo.jp (c.buhtz at posteo.jp)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 21:05:55 +0100
Subject: [Users] [bug] End_of_file exception raised in loading archive
Message-ID: <3nmLWF2cbTz5vN5@dovecot03.posteo.de>

This is a know bug but I don't know a bug-trac system for unison. So I
use this list. Hope this is ok.

With DuckDuckGo.com I found to reports about this bug in the past
From Dec'14 on stackexchange
<http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/176646/unison-end-of-file-exception>
and on that list from Feb'13
<http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.unison.general/9966>

The bug is still there. The workaround with -ignorearchvies work.

Some questions about this:

1. Why does this error happen? Of course the archive is corrupt. But
why? Did the user made something wrong?

2. Is it registred somewhere as an official bug?

3. What does -ignorearchiv really do? Why is this option there? What is
the difference between running unison with and without it? Why do we
need "archives" and why does it work without, too?

The is the complete debug-output of my unison run.

user at MONSTER:~$ unison mysync -auto -debug all
[startup] Preferences:
ui = graphic
host = 
server = false
prefsdocs = false
doc = 
version = false
silent = false
dumbtty = false
testserver = false
rest = mysync
showprev = false
selftest = false
confirmmerge = false
retry = 0
repeat = 
contactquietly = false
key = 
label = 
expert = false
height = 15
auto = true
maxthreads = 0
prefer = newer
force = 
sortnewfirst = false
sortbysize = false
keeptempfilesaftermerge = false
diff = diff -u CURRENT2 CURRENT1
backupdir = 
maxbackups = 2
backups = false
backupsuffix = 
backupprefix = .bak.$VERSION.
backup = Name *
backuploc = central
copymax = 1
copyquoterem = default
copythreshold = -1
copyprogrest = rsync --partial --append-verify --compress
copyprog = rsync --partial --inplace --compress
rsync = true
fastcheck = default
ignorelocks = false
dumparchives = false
ignorearchives = false
showarchive = false
rootsName = 
fat = false
allHostsAreRunningWindows = false
someHostIsRunningWindows = false
ignore = Path {.out, __pycache__}
confirmbigdel = true
batch = false
path = share
path = .MyAppData
path = Dokumente
root = ssh://user at tonne//home/user
root = /home/user
killserver = false
halfduplex = false
stream = true
addversionno = false
servercmd = 
sshargs = -C
rshargs = 
rshcmd = rsh
sshcmd = ssh
xferbycopying = true
sshversion = 
ignoreinodenumbers = false
links-aux = true
links = default
times = true
group = false
owner = false
numericids = false
dontchmod = false
perms = 1023
rsrc-aux = false
rsrc = default
maxerrors = 1
follow = Name {share}
unicodeCS = false
unicodeEnc = false
unicode = default
someHostIsInsensitive = false
ignorecase = default
timers = false
terse = false
logfile = /home/user/.unison/unison.log
log = true
debugtimes = false
debug = all
addprefsto = 
[remote] Shell connection: ssh (ssh, -l, user, tonne, -e, none, -C,
unison, -server) [globals] Checking path 'share' for expansions
[globals] Checking path '.MyAppData' for expansions
[globals] Checking path 'Dokumente' for expansions
Connected [//MONSTER//home/user -> //TONNE//home/user]
[startup] Roots: 
        /home/user
        ssh://user at tonne//home/user
  i.e. 
        /home/user
        ssh://user at tonne//home/user
  i.e. (in canonical order)
       /home/user
       //TONNE//home/user

[props] Setting permission mask to 1777 (1777 and 7777)
[stasher] initBackupsLocal
[stasher] d = /
[stasher] Prefix and suffix regexps for backup filenames have been
updated [server: stasher] initBackupsLocal
[server: stasher] d = /
[server: stasher] Prefix and suffix regexps for backup filenames have
been updated <>Starting new major GC cycle
!<>$[update] Loading archive
from /home/user/.unison/arefefc6eea86151c51302f1e7d0dbfa30 [exn]
Converting an End_of_file to Fatal: End_of_file exception raised in
loading archive (this indicates a bug!) End_of_file exception raised in
loading archive (this indicates a bug!) [server: update] Loading
archive from /home/user/.unison/ar77f6f7084b316030b00b93b033635304
[server: update] Setting archive for //TONNE//home/user



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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct 29 12:15:49 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 11:15:49 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3552] New: Hang when retrieving IMAP messages behind a
 captive portal
Message-ID: <bug-3552-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3552

            Bug ID: 3552
           Summary: Hang when retrieving IMAP messages behind a captive
                    portal
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.11.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: admin at bernsteinforpresident.com

I access the internet primarily through wireless internet with a captive
portal, i.e. when you first connect, all traffic is redirected to the login
page until you authenticate.  Sometimes (but not all the time) claws will hang
upon trying to update my IMAP account.

Steps to reproduce:

1. Connect to the wireless internet (when not yet authenticated)
2. If claws has not already begun an automatic mail check, initiate a manual
mail check.
3. Authenticate in the browser
4. Claws hangs

Note that claws does not hang until a successful connection has been
established.  Before authentication in the portal, claws responds normally.  

A temporary workaround is to just ensure that claws is not in the middle of a
mail check when you authenticate.

I am running Claws 3.11.1 (3.11.1-1ubuntu1ppa1~precise2 package on Ubuntu
12.04).  It is compiled with NetworkManager support (NetworkManager version
0.9.4.0).

Here is the bt:


Thread 55 (Thread 0x7fffeba5f700 (LWP 25960)):
#0  0x00007ffff511b0fe in pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007ffff4c4e925 in g_cond_wait_until () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x00007ffff4be91c1 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x00007ffff4be97da in g_async_queue_timeout_pop () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#4  0x00007ffff4c35164 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#5  0x00007ffff4c349e5 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#6  0x00007ffff5116e9a in start_thread () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
#7  0x00007ffff408b8bd in clone () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#8  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()

Thread 5 (Thread 0x7fffd16d8700 (LWP 492)):
#0  0x00007ffff407ff03 in poll () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007fffd28fe35f in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpulse.so.0
#2  0x00007fffd28ef76c in pa_mainloop_poll () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpulse.so.0
#3  0x00007fffd28efdd9 in pa_mainloop_iterate () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpulse.so.0
#4  0x00007fffd28efe90 in pa_mainloop_run () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpulse.so.0
#5  0x00007fffd28fe30f in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpulse.so.0
#6  0x00007fffd24a7d18 in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpulsecommon-1.1.so
#7  0x00007ffff5116e9a in start_thread () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
#8  0x00007ffff408b8bd in clone () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#9  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()

Thread 4 (Thread 0x7fffd3928700 (LWP 491)):
#0  0x00007ffff511ad84 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007ffff463d4eb in mailsem_internal_wait () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libetpan.so.17
#2  0x00000000005ea839 in thread_run (data=0xf0caf0) at
etpan-thread-manager.c:331
#3  0x00007ffff5116e9a in start_thread () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
#4  0x00007ffff408b8bd in clone () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#5  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()

Thread 3 (Thread 0x7fffeb25e700 (LWP 490)):
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
#0  0x00007ffff407ff03 in poll () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007ffff4c13036 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x00007ffff4c1349a in g_main_loop_run () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x00007ffff6c20406 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgio-2.0.so.0
#4  0x00007ffff4c349e5 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#5  0x00007ffff5116e9a in start_thread () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
#6  0x00007ffff408b8bd in clone () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#7  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()

Thread 1 (Thread 0x7ffff7fad9c0 (LWP 486)):
#0  0x00007ffff3fce0d5 in raise () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007ffff3fd183b in abort () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#2  0x00007ffff400b61e in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#3  0x00007ffff4015e16 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#4  0x00000000005d5556 in session_destroy (session=0x12ed510) at session.c:228
#5  0x00000000004a2c04 in imap_session_get (folder=0xd36800) at imap.c:1086
#6  0x00000000004a4d7e in imap_scan_required (folder=0xd36800, _item=0xd320b0)
at imap.c:4768
#7  0x000000000049ab7d in folderview_check_new (folder=0xd36800) at
folderview.c:1113
#8  0x00000000004b26ef in inc_all_account_mail (mainwin=0xa45a60, autocheck=0,
notify=0) at inc.c:362
#9  0x00007ffff4ecfeca in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#10 0x00007ffff4ee8741 in g_signal_emit_valist () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#11 0x00007ffff4ee9754 in g_signal_emit_by_name () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#12 0x00007ffff4ecfeca in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#13 0x00007ffff4ee8741 in g_signal_emit_valist () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#14 0x00007ffff4ee9242 in g_signal_emit () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#15 0x00007ffff71e6845 in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#16 0x00007ffff4ecfeca in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#17 0x00007ffff4ee8741 in g_signal_emit_valist () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#18 0x00007ffff4ee9242 in g_signal_emit () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#19 0x00007ffff71e566d in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#20 0x00007ffff728edd8 in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#21 0x00007ffff4ecfca2 in g_closure_invoke () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#22 0x00007ffff4ee1339 in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
#23 0x00007ffff4ee8d7e in g_signal_emit_valist () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#24 0x00007ffff4ee9242 in g_signal_emit () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#25 0x00007ffff73a9191 in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#26 0x00007ffff728cf63 in gtk_propagate_event () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#27 0x00007ffff728d2c3 in gtk_main_do_event () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#28 0x00007ffff6f01cac in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
#29 0x00007ffff4c12d53 in g_main_context_dispatch () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#30 0x00007ffff4c130a0 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#31 0x00007ffff4c1349a in g_main_loop_run () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#32 0x00007ffff728c2f7 in gtk_main () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#33 0x00000000004491cd in main (argc=1, argv=0x7fffffffe038) at main.c:1559

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From ricardo at mones.org  Thu Oct 29 13:10:11 2015
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 13:10:11 +0100
Subject: [Users] [bug] End_of_file exception raised in loading archive
In-Reply-To: <3nmLWF2cbTz5vN5@dovecot03.posteo.de>
References: <3nmLWF2cbTz5vN5@dovecot03.posteo.de>
Message-ID: <20151029121011.GB9568@busgosu.mones.org>

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 09:05:55PM +0100, c.buhtz at posteo.jp wrote:
> This is a know bug but I don't know a bug-trac system for unison. So I
> use this list. Hope this is ok.

It's not. Next time try at least to follow some link on software's
homepage: http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/lists.html

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Oct 29 14:28:00 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 13:28:00 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3553] New: line wrap glitch is creeping back in after
 a multi-year hiatus
Message-ID: <bug-3553-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3553

            Bug ID: 3553
           Summary: line wrap glitch is creeping back in after a
                    multi-year hiatus
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Compose Window
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: pf at pfortin.com

See bug 1409 -- I recall that this was discussed extensively on the ML circa
2008/2009... It took a LONG time to get it resolved.

Today, had the 3rd or 4th occurrence in the past few months -- write a
paragraph, go back and do some rewording and auto-wrap
starts
making
the
paragraph
look
like this...

I was going to provide a pointer to the ML archives; but they only go back to
10/2011...  I still have most of the messages from back then if that helps...

Preferences->Compose->Wrapping: all on & 74

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Oct 30 22:40:05 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 21:40:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3554] New: Claws-mail freezes when activating VPN or
 changing IP
Message-ID: <bug-3554-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3554

            Bug ID: 3554
           Summary: Claws-mail freezes when activating VPN or changing IP
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.11.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders/IMAP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: greencoppermine at gmail.com

Claws-mail freezes when I activate my VPN. I then have to kill claws-mail and
restart it again in order to use it.

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From gusnan.mailinglists at openmailbox.org  Sat Oct 31 07:02:52 2015
From: gusnan.mailinglists at openmailbox.org (Andreas Ronnquist)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 07:02:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] Information from Gpg seems wrong
In-Reply-To: <20151025132703.1018ec17@kujata.lan>
References: <20151025085532.4B0D12AC0E56@mail2.openmailbox.org>
 <20151025122336.586f473f@kujata.lan>
 <20151025124022.F33602AC211E@mail2.openmailbox.org>
 <20151025132703.1018ec17@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20151031060403.A4F6C2AC17AF@mail2.openmailbox.org>

On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 13:27:03 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 13:39:21 +0100
>Andreas Ronnquist <gusnan.mailinglists at openmailbox.org> wrote: 
>
>> Well, I am running gpg 1.4.18, and gpg2 version 2.0.26, both
>> directly from the Debian stable repositories.  
>
>Which are you using in Claws?

Which ever is the default.

>Do they both give the same result?
>

Changing "Path to GnuPG executable" in Configuration / Preferences -
Plugins / GPG - to either /usr/bin/gpg or /usr/bin/gpg2 doesn't make a
difference (I do close down Claws in between).

Is there some simpler way that I don't know of that can change the used
GnuPG version?

/Andreas
gusnan at openmailbox.org
gusnan.mailinglists at openmailbox.org


From gabble at gmx.com  Sat Oct 31 08:31:34 2015
From: gabble at gmx.com (gabble)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 08:31:34 +0100
Subject: [Users] Duplicate messages and crashes
Message-ID: <20151031083134.00007e24@gmx.com>

Hello,

I'm a new user, running Claws on Windows. To make things worse I'm still on XP.

I have been using Claws for a week or two, learning the in and outs and fiddling with configuration. All was well until the other day when Claws started to duplicate emails.

At first it crashed as soon as I tried to touch the duplicates. In desperation I deleted .claws_cache for the concerned mail box. Then I was able to delete the duplicates. All was well for a while.

Then Claws started to duplicate emails on every fetch then it immediately crashed. Not all emails, just a few selected ones that it duplicates over and over again. I discovered it happened with a certain account so I disabled that account. All went well for a while, huh, a few hours, but now it has started again with other accounts.

So the behavior is somewhat inconsistent to say the least.

Please advice. I really want to keep using Claws since I can't find another client that suits my needs. Also, is deleting the cache the right thing to do or does I make things worse?

Cheers,
Charlotte


From andrej at kacian.sk  Sat Oct 31 09:34:53 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 09:34:53 +0100
Subject: [Users] Duplicate messages and crashes
In-Reply-To: <20151031083134.00007e24@gmx.com>
References: <20151031083134.00007e24@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <20151031093453.6012260a@penny>

On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 08:31:34 +0100
gabble <gabble at gmx.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm a new user, running Claws on Windows. To make things worse I'm still on XP.
> 
> I have been using Claws for a week or two, learning the in and outs and fiddling with configuration. All was well until the other day when Claws started to duplicate emails.
> 
> At first it crashed as soon as I tried to touch the duplicates. In desperation I deleted .claws_cache for the concerned mail box. Then I was able to delete the duplicates. All was well for a while.
> 
> Then Claws started to duplicate emails on every fetch then it immediately crashed. Not all emails, just a few selected ones that it duplicates over and over again. I discovered it happened with a certain account so I disabled that account. All went well for a while, huh, a few hours, but now it has started again with other accounts.
> 
> So the behavior is somewhat inconsistent to say the least.
> 
> Please advice. I really want to keep using Claws since I can't find another client that suits my needs. Also, is deleting the cache the right thing to do or does I make things worse?

Hello Charlotte,

first of all, by deleting the cache file, you can't make anything
worse - at worst, first next opening of a given folder will be a bit
slower.

I suggest first upgrading Claws Mail to 3.13.0 to see if it helps. Note
that 3.13.0 might not even work on Windows XP, see the IPv6 point at
http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2015-October/014363.html

It would help if you could isolate a particular message that gets
duplicated, ideally a message that is not sensitive, so you can share
it at least with me. Although I do not have access to a computer with 
Windows XP, I could try reproducing your issue over here and to figure
out what's wrong.

Is there any common trait to the messages that get duplicated? E.g.
same sender, special characters in some header, attachment, etc.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Oct 31 10:35:51 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 09:35:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3554] Claws-mail freezes when activating VPN or
	changing IP
In-Reply-To: <bug-3554-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3554-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3554-595-t7g4F4N7S9@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3554

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Use Network Manager support, or click the offline button followed by the online
button. This will terminate your imap connection.

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From sylpheed at 2600.sk  Sat Oct 31 13:30:06 2015
From: sylpheed at 2600.sk (JoHnY)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 13:30:06 +0100
Subject: [Users] Signature position
Message-ID: <20151031133006.caf63bcb4f5d74b53ca3d5ab@2600.sk>

Hello,

is there any chance that an option "put signature before quote" will be added in some future version like it exists (for a long time) in Sylpheed? 

Thanks.
Jan



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Oct 31 13:34:50 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 12:34:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] Signature position
In-Reply-To: <20151031133006.caf63bcb4f5d74b53ca3d5ab@2600.sk>
References: <20151031133006.caf63bcb4f5d74b53ca3d5ab@2600.sk>
Message-ID: <20151031123450.3e178160@kujata.lan>

On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 13:30:06 +0100
JoHnY <sylpheed at 2600.sk> wrote: 

> is there any chance that an option "put signature before quote"
> will be added in some future version like it exists (for a long
> time) in Sylpheed? 

And existed for longer in Claws Mail. Have a look at the Templates in
your account preferences, you'll find it's very flexible and can do
what you want.

with regards

Paul


From sylpheed at 2600.sk  Sat Oct 31 13:40:59 2015
From: sylpheed at 2600.sk (JoHnY)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 13:40:59 +0100
Subject: [Users] Signature position
In-Reply-To: <20151031123450.3e178160@kujata.lan>
References: <20151031133006.caf63bcb4f5d74b53ca3d5ab@2600.sk>
 <20151031123450.3e178160@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20151031134059.80e1f82b38c2b267fc8dee17@2600.sk>

No, templates are not working for me, they are not switched automatically when switching between accounts during mail composition as it is with signatures.

Jan


On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 12:34:50 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 13:30:06 +0100
> JoHnY <sylpheed at 2600.sk> wrote: 
> 
> > is there any chance that an option "put signature before quote"
> > will be added in some future version like it exists (for a long
> > time) in Sylpheed? 
> 
> And existed for longer in Claws Mail. Have a look at the Templates
> in your account preferences, you'll find it's very flexible and can
> do what you want.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Oct 31 16:17:03 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 15:17:03 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3539] Print job fails
In-Reply-To: <bug-3539-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3539-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3539-595-SSeb1BQ6sU@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3539

--- Comment #7 from tio.madrid at hotmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #6)
> You probably found wrong file. The string "foo" is situationally written
> into a file named "claws-crashed", not into the log file. claws-win32.log,
> when running claws-mail.exe --debug should start with something like this:
> 
> claws.c:102:Starting Claws Mail version Claws Mail 3.13.0
> main.c:769:runtime GTK+ 2.24.28 / GLib 2.45.2
> main.c:777:buildtime GTK+ 2.24.28 / GLib 2.45.2
> main.c:786:Compiled-in features:

I found the wrong file. Path to file claws-win32.log on Windows 7 is
C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp .

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Oct 31 16:18:44 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 15:18:44 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3539] Print job fails
In-Reply-To: <bug-3539-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3539-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3539-595-3sW7YdLCzS@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3539

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Oct 31 16:24:37 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 15:24:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3539] Print job fails
In-Reply-To: <bug-3539-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3539-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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From gabble at gmx.com  Sat Oct 31 17:24:41 2015
From: gabble at gmx.com (gabble)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:24:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] Duplicate messages and crashes
In-Reply-To: <20151031093453.6012260a@penny>
References: <20151031083134.00007e24@gmx.com> <20151031093453.6012260a@penny>
Message-ID: <20151031172441.00006b69@gmx.com>

Hi Andrej,

On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 09:34:53 +0100
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 08:31:34 +0100
> gabble <gabble at gmx.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I'm a new user, running Claws on Windows. To make things worse I'm
> > still on XP.
> > 
> > I have been using Claws for a week or two, learning the in and outs
> > and fiddling with configuration. All was well until the other day
> > when Claws started to duplicate emails.
> > 
> > At first it crashed as soon as I tried to touch the duplicates. In
> > desperation I deleted .claws_cache for the concerned mail box. Then
> > I was able to delete the duplicates. All was well for a while.
> > 
> > Then Claws started to duplicate emails on every fetch then it
> > immediately crashed. Not all emails, just a few selected ones that
> > it duplicates over and over again. I discovered it happened with a
> > certain account so I disabled that account. All went well for a
> > while, huh, a few hours, but now it has started again with other
> > accounts.
> > 
> > So the behavior is somewhat inconsistent to say the least.
> > 
> > Please advice. I really want to keep using Claws since I can't find
> > another client that suits my needs. Also, is deleting the cache the
> > right thing to do or does I make things worse?
> 
> Hello Charlotte,
> 
> first of all, by deleting the cache file, you can't make anything
> worse - at worst, first next opening of a given folder will be a bit
> slower.

Thanks for that information.


> I suggest first upgrading Claws Mail to 3.13.0 to see if it helps.
> Note that 3.13.0 might not even work on Windows XP, see the IPv6
> point at
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2015-October/014363.html

Sounds a little risky then...

> It would help if you could isolate a particular message that gets
> duplicated, ideally a message that is not sensitive, so you can share
> it at least with me. Although I do not have access to a computer with 
> Windows XP, I could try reproducing your issue over here and to figure
> out what's wrong.

Thing is, after I sent my cry for help to the list it stopped happening. But I'm sure it will happen again. I'll enable the account I disabled for a start and see if Claws can handle those emails now.

Soon as it happens again I'll send you one of the problematic emails. Is it the physical file you want and can I attach it to an email to the this list or should I send it to you privately?


> Is there any common trait to the messages that get duplicated? E.g.
> same sender, special characters in some header, attachment, etc.

No, I can't see any common denominator. At first I thought there was one, it  began with posts on the WebAIM mailing list, then it started to happen to other emails but to the same email account, but as said, it didn't stop there. It's been text and HTML mail, from mailing lists, from people I know, forum notification, advertising mail from different companies (not spam).

Thank you for your help so far. I'll post as soon as it happens again. It was stupid of me to empty the trash, but I didn't expect it to stop all of a sudden!

Cheers,
Charlotte


From doark at mail.com  Thu Oct 29 14:35:06 2015
From: doark at mail.com (David Niklas)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 09:35:06 -0400
Subject: [Users] How to automatically focus opened email instead of email
	list
Message-ID: <20151029093506.7ec4a8aa@ulgy_thing>

Hello,

When I open an email the arrow keys are still manipulating the email
list, not the email viewer. I want it to change to the email viewer
automatically, how do I do this?

Thanks, David