From bugreporter at abwesend.de  Mon Jun  1 00:47:10 2015
From: bugreporter at abwesend.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 00:47:10 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3431] New: MH folders not being created when IMAP
 account is added first to a new installation
In-Reply-To: <bug-3431-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3431-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20150601004710.57027cbd@noname>

On Fri, 29 May 2015 16:45:36 +0000, noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:

> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3431
> 
>             Bug ID: 3431
>            Summary: MH folders not being created when IMAP account is
>                     added first to a new installation

> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1510&action=edit
> Claws Mail screen showing four accounts (3 IMAP, 1 POP3, at lower right of
> window) and no Mailbox MH folders shown.
> 
> This was originally reported to Fedora at 
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1225676 
> 
> but I think this should have been reported here.

The reason I pointed at this mailing-list is that very often it is more
productive to analyze a problem with the help of the users on this list
_prior_ to deciding whether/where to open a bug report.

As I cannot reproduce the issue with GNOME Shell, and since several basic
trouble-shooting questions are still unanswered, meanwhile I've downloaded
and tried the Fedora MATE Live Spin, booted from an USB stick.

I cannot reproduce the issue with MATE either.

So, more questions about reproducibility:

1) Can you reduce your test-case to 1 IMAP account + 1 POP3 account?
Or does it need to be 3 IMAP accounts?

2) Is the problem reproducible for you when running another desktop
environment? Such as a simple window manager like "Window Maker" or
"Openbox"? With MATE it should be possible to install package "WindowMaker"
then log out, log into a Window Maker session and try to reproduce the
problem there.

3) Could you think of anything special with regard to your IMAP accounts?
Is the problem reproducible if you add a dummy IMAP account? That is
enter only missing server names 'localhost' and a user/password that need
not exist.

> With Fedora (21), the MATE desktop installs Claws Mail as the default e-mail
> program. I discovered that when adding an IMAP account first, to a new
> installation, then adding a POP3 account afterwards, the Mailbox (MH) folders
> do not appear in the folder tree. If the POP3 account is added first, before
> any other account, MH appears correctly.

Here the MH folders appear immediately.


From edward at coolsite.net  Mon Jun  1 01:26:17 2015
From: edward at coolsite.net (edward at coolsite.net)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 19:26:17 -0400
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3431] New: MH folders not being created when IMAP
 account is added first to a new installation
In-Reply-To: <20150601004710.57027cbd@noname>
References: <bug-3431-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <20150601004710.57027cbd@noname>
Message-ID: <20150531192617.242d3edd@coolsite.net>

On Mon, 1 Jun 2015 00:47:10 +0200
Michael Schwendt <bugreporter at abwesend.de> wrote:

> The reason I pointed at this mailing-list is that very often it is
> more productive to analyze a problem with the help of the users on
> this list _prior_ to deciding whether/where to open a bug report.
> 
> As I cannot reproduce the issue with GNOME Shell, and since several
> basic trouble-shooting questions are still unanswered, meanwhile I've
> downloaded and tried the Fedora MATE Live Spin, booted from an USB
> stick.
> 
> I cannot reproduce the issue with MATE either.
> 
> So, more questions about reproducibility:
> 
> 1) Can you reduce your test-case to 1 IMAP account + 1 POP3 account?
> Or does it need to be 3 IMAP accounts?
> 
> 2) Is the problem reproducible for you when running another desktop
> environment? Such as a simple window manager like "Window Maker" or
> "Openbox"? With MATE it should be possible to install package
> "WindowMaker" then log out, log into a Window Maker session and try
> to reproduce the problem there.
> 
> 3) Could you think of anything special with regard to your IMAP
> accounts? Is the problem reproducible if you add a dummy IMAP
> account? That is enter only missing server names 'localhost' and a
> user/password that need not exist.
 
> Here the MH folders appear immediately.

I renamed the .claws-mail directory and started Claws with a brand new
profile. Added one IMAP account, the folders appeared immediately.
Then added one POP3 account, the Mailbox MH tree also appeared
immediately and underneath the IMAP folders in the window. 

Given this, it's working as it should.

There is nothing special regarding the IMAP accounts, they're standard.

Bad profile, perhaps?


From cel at celehner.com  Mon Jun  1 15:59:23 2015
From: cel at celehner.com (Charles Lehner)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 09:59:23 -0400
Subject: [Users] Using Claws and Sylpheed together
In-Reply-To: <20150531093034.01f96034@coolsite.net>
References: <20150531093034.01f96034@coolsite.net>
Message-ID: <20150601095923.26d98c9b61e9ee293b3906b0@celehner.com>

On Sun, 31 May 2015 09:30:34 -0400
<edward at coolsite.net> wrote:

> I have both Claws and Sylpheed installed on Fedora 21, but have been
> using Claws (installed with MATE desktop). Sylpheed wants to create a
> mailbox at /home/<user>/Mail, which is what Claws did at first run.
> 
> Is it safe to use this same directory path for both e-mail programs?
> 
> Thanks in advance.

I've been doing this and it seems to work. One thing is that Claws and Sylpheed both maintain cache and mark files for each mail directory, so the state of which mails are marked as read, etc. may get unsynchronized. I've had success with making in each mail folder a symlink .sylpheed_mark -> .claws_mark so that the mark files are shared by Claws and Sylpheed. I haven't tried sharing the cache files. Someone else can correct me if this is considered unsafe.

-- 
Charles



From claws-mail at bercot.org  Tue Jun  2 14:22:24 2015
From: claws-mail at bercot.org (David BERCOT)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 14:22:24 +0200
Subject: [Users] ActiveSync
In-Reply-To: <20130101182714.00007dd3@unknown>
References: <20130101121802.3f87106b@scorpio> <20130101182714.00007dd3@unknown>
Message-ID: <20150602142224.2280f074@debian-david>

Hello,

This thread is old but I have the same question ;-)

I'd like to use Claws-Mail with an Exchange server wich only supports
ActiveSync (or OWA, but no EWS).

Is there a simple solution ?
If not, a complex solution ;-) SyncEvolution, automx, etc.

Thank you very much.

David.

Le Tue, 1 Jan 2013 18:27:14 -0500,
Rich Pieri <richard.pieri at gmail.com> a écrit :
> It's not a matter of supporting ActiveSync. It's a matter of using
> either Microsoft's or Mozilla's automatic configuration "standards".
> 
> I don't believe that CM supports either specification but I'll leave
> it to the devs to make definitive statements.
>
>Le Tue, 1 Jan 2013 12:18:02 -0500,
>Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> a écrit :
>
>> Does "claws-mail" support "ActiveSync". A client asked me about it.
>> He
>> is getting information from the URL <http://www.automx.org/en/> site.
>> I think they want to try utilizing the application.


From moh at gmx.org  Tue Jun  2 23:07:20 2015
From: moh at gmx.org (Steffen Klemer)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 23:07:20 +0200
Subject: [Users] ActiveSync
In-Reply-To: <20150602142224.2280f074@debian-david>
References: <20130101121802.3f87106b@scorpio> <20130101182714.00007dd3@unknown>
 <20150602142224.2280f074@debian-david>
Message-ID: <20150602230720.1c5a6765@ente.kel.wh.lokal>

Am Di, 02.06.2015 um 14:22 schrieb David BERCOT <claws-mail at bercot.org>:

> If not, a complex solution ;-) SyncEvolution, automx, etc.

How about davmail:
http://davmail.sourceforge.net/

It acts like a proxy between standard protocols and Exchange's WebDAV
API.

/Steffen

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From edward at coolsite.net  Wed Jun  3 00:33:44 2015
From: edward at coolsite.net (edward at coolsite.net)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 18:33:44 -0400
Subject: [Users] Using Claws and Sylpheed together
In-Reply-To: <20150601095923.26d98c9b61e9ee293b3906b0@celehner.com>
References: <20150531093034.01f96034@coolsite.net>
 <20150601095923.26d98c9b61e9ee293b3906b0@celehner.com>
Message-ID: <556E2F48.4080800@coolsite.net>

On 06/01/2015 09:59 AM, Charles Lehner wrote:
> On Sun, 31 May 2015 09:30:34 -0400
> <edward at coolsite.net> wrote:
>
>> I have both Claws and Sylpheed installed on Fedora 21, but have been
>> using Claws (installed with MATE desktop). Sylpheed wants to create a
>> mailbox at /home/<user>/Mail, which is what Claws did at first run.
>>
>> Is it safe to use this same directory path for both e-mail programs?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
> I've been doing this and it seems to work. One thing is that Claws and Sylpheed both maintain cache and mark files for each mail directory, so the state of which mails are marked as read, etc. may get unsynchronized. I've had success with making in each mail folder a symlink .sylpheed_mark -> .claws_mark so that the mark files are shared by Claws and Sylpheed. I haven't tried sharing the cache files. Someone else can correct me if this is considered unsafe.


Thank you.




From ricardo at mones.org  Wed Jun  3 14:24:38 2015
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 14:24:38 +0200
Subject: [Users] Bitcoin implementation?
In-Reply-To: <20150531005443.2c6b96b6@Riga>
References: <20150531005443.2c6b96b6@Riga>
Message-ID: <20150603122438.GL10619@arandanu>

On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 12:54:43AM +0200, Malatesta wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm not a programmer, therefore I don't know if the following part of
> my wish-list is even possible to make, but maybe someone is able and
> willing to work on the following feature.
[…] 
> I'm aware that this is not anything within the scope of the
> functionality of an e-mail client. However, a plug-in which could do
> this would be great...

If you're interested you can create a feature request on bugzilla, it may catch
the attention of somebody: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/

Chances are that the sun becomes red giant before this gets implemented, but
my knowledge about probability theory is low, so I could be wrong ;)
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  RTFM - "Read The Manual" (The 'F' is silent). Usually a very good 
  idea.                                             Bjarne Stroustrup

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From claws-mail at bercot.org  Wed Jun  3 16:49:58 2015
From: claws-mail at bercot.org (David BERCOT)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 16:49:58 +0200
Subject: [Users] ActiveSync
In-Reply-To: <20150602230720.1c5a6765@ente.kel.wh.lokal>
References: <20130101121802.3f87106b@scorpio> <20130101182714.00007dd3@unknown>
 <20150602142224.2280f074@debian-david>
 <20150602230720.1c5a6765@ente.kel.wh.lokal>
Message-ID: <20150603164958.7e6c517d@debian-david>

Hi Steffen,

Le Tue, 2 Jun 2015 23:07:20 +0200,
Steffen Klemer <moh at gmx.org> a écrit :
> Am Di, 02.06.2015 um 14:22 schrieb David BERCOT
> <claws-mail at bercot.org>:
> 
> > If not, a complex solution ;-) SyncEvolution, automx, etc.
> 
> How about davmail:
> http://davmail.sourceforge.net/

Davmail is OK with EWS but not with ActiveSync :-(

David.

> It acts like a proxy between standard protocols and Exchange's WebDAV
> API.
> 
> /Steffen
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From moh at gmx.org  Wed Jun  3 17:39:14 2015
From: moh at gmx.org (Steffen Klemer)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 17:39:14 +0200
Subject: [Users] ActiveSync
In-Reply-To: <20150603164958.7e6c517d@debian-david>
References: <20130101121802.3f87106b@scorpio> <20130101182714.00007dd3@unknown>
 <20150602142224.2280f074@debian-david>
 <20150602230720.1c5a6765@ente.kel.wh.lokal>
 <20150603164958.7e6c517d@debian-david>
Message-ID: <20150603173914.30d0c492@ente.kel.wh.lokal>

Am Mi, 03.06.2015 um 16:49 schrieb David BERCOT <claws-mail at bercot.org>:

> Le Tue, 2 Jun 2015 23:07:20 +0200,
> Steffen Klemer <moh at gmx.org> a écrit :
> > Am Di, 02.06.2015 um 14:22 schrieb David BERCOT
> > <claws-mail at bercot.org>:
> >   
> > > If not, a complex solution ;-) SyncEvolution, automx, etc.  
> > 
> > How about davmail:
> > http://davmail.sourceforge.net/  
> 
> Davmail is OK with EWS but not with ActiveSync :-(

But it does support OWA (which is what you asked for):
http://davmail.sourceforge.net/serversetup.html

Actually this was the original implementation, EWS came later. Or do
you want to say that it works, but isn't any good?

lg
/Steffen

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From fangfufu2003 at gmail.com  Wed Jun  3 20:41:29 2015
From: fangfufu2003 at gmail.com (Fufu Fang)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 19:41:29 +0100
Subject: [Users] Does the GData plugin still works?
Message-ID: <CAM6g_+++O3wADt6uTtGDZKo5J5cP7J73Dbkupkb84XcCZTzrEA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
Does the GData plugin still works? The network log shows the following:

* GData plugin: Starting async authentication
*** GData plugin: Authentication error: The requested resource was not
found: https://developers.google.com/accounts/docs/AuthForInstalledApps

When I visit the URL in question, the following shows up:
"Important: ClientLogin has been officially deprecated since April 20,
2012 and is now no longer available."

If GData does not work, is there any other better ways to get the
contact list off my Google Contacts?
Best wishes,
Fufu
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From berndth at gmx.de  Wed Jun  3 22:28:23 2015
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 22:28:23 +0200
Subject: [Users] Does the GData plugin still works?
In-Reply-To: <CAM6g_+++O3wADt6uTtGDZKo5J5cP7J73Dbkupkb84XcCZTzrEA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM6g_+++O3wADt6uTtGDZKo5J5cP7J73Dbkupkb84XcCZTzrEA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150603222823.00c16924@wodan>

On Mi, 03.06.2015 19:41, Fufu Fang wrote:

>When I visit the URL in question, the following shows up:
>"Important: ClientLogin has been officially deprecated since April 20,
>2012 and is now no longer available."

Updating doesn't work at the moment, see
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3432

Holger


From claws-mail at bercot.org  Thu Jun  4 08:49:34 2015
From: claws-mail at bercot.org (David BERCOT)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 08:49:34 +0200
Subject: [Users] ActiveSync
In-Reply-To: <20150603173914.30d0c492@ente.kel.wh.lokal>
References: <20130101121802.3f87106b@scorpio> <20130101182714.00007dd3@unknown>
 <20150602142224.2280f074@debian-david>
 <20150602230720.1c5a6765@ente.kel.wh.lokal>
 <20150603164958.7e6c517d@debian-david>
 <20150603173914.30d0c492@ente.kel.wh.lokal>
Message-ID: <20150604084934.5d4e8794@debian-david>

Le Wed, 3 Jun 2015 17:39:14 +0200,
Steffen Klemer <moh at gmx.org> a écrit :
> Am Mi, 03.06.2015 um 16:49 schrieb David BERCOT
> <claws-mail at bercot.org>:
> > Le Tue, 2 Jun 2015 23:07:20 +0200,
> > Steffen Klemer <moh at gmx.org> a écrit :
> > > Am Di, 02.06.2015 um 14:22 schrieb David BERCOT
> > > <claws-mail at bercot.org>:
> > >   
> > > > If not, a complex solution ;-) SyncEvolution, automx, etc.  
> > > 
> > > How about davmail:
> > > http://davmail.sourceforge.net/  
> > 
> > Davmail is OK with EWS but not with ActiveSync :-(
> 
> But it does support OWA (which is what you asked for):
> http://davmail.sourceforge.net/serversetup.html
> 
> Actually this was the original implementation, EWS came later. Or do
> you want to say that it works, but isn't any good?

With Exchange 2010, OWA is not sufficient... EWS is needed :

<from davmail website>
Is Exchange 2010 supported ?

As Microsoft decided to drop WebDav support in Exchange 2010, I had to
implement a new backend from scratch to support the new Exchange Web
Services interface. This support is still experimental, but is working
quite well. However, you still need to enable it manually
in .davmail.properties with the following line:

davmail.enableEws=true

Is DavMail based on Outlook protocol ?

Outlook anywhere uses MAPI RPC over HTTPS to access company LAN through
the firewall. DavMail does not use MAPI at all but relies on WebDav
(Exchange 2003/2007) or EWS (Exchange 2007/2010) to access Exchange.
This means you need direct access over HTTPS to either the OWA WebDav
url (/exchange/mail at company.com) or EWS (/ews/exchange.asmx) to access
Exchange with DavMail.
</from davmail website>

David.
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From barry at python.org  Thu Jun  4 19:10:21 2015
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 13:10:21 -0400
Subject: [Users] Odd performance problems on Ubuntu 15.10 (wily werewolf)
Message-ID: <20150604131021.2eb2f8ec@anarchist.wooz.org>

I always try to run the latest Ubuntu under development, at least on a few
machines, as early in the cycle as possible.  I've been noticing some odd
performance problems with CM 3.11.1 (3.11.1-3ubuntu2) on Ubuntu 15.10 which I
am not seeing on 15.04, even though the packages are currently identical.

Very often, CM on 15.10 just hangs and starts consuming a lot of memory and *a
lot* of CPU.  I see load averages climb, and the CM windows turn grey for 30
seconds or so.  The entire system also gets quite unresponsive, and CM will
crash more often.

I know there are a lot of tool chain and dependency changes early in the
cycle, so I'm wondering if something has changed out from underneath CM.  I
haven't chased down anything in particular that could be responsible, but it
seems like a pretty common occurrence.  This is on a 4GB VM, but as I say, I
don't notice any of these problems under Vivid.

So I'm thinking about doing a no-change rebuild for CM on 15.10, probably in a
PPA to start with, but I wanted to check here to see if any other Ubuntu users
might have some comments first.

Cheers,
-Barry
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun  5 17:29:05 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 15:29:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3433] New: Passwords containing an exclamation mark
 cause log in failure
Message-ID: <bug-3433-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3433

            Bug ID: 3433
           Summary: Passwords containing an exclamation mark cause log in
                    failure
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.9.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: bugzilla at rsilvola.com

Using a password containing an exclamation mark will reliably cause IMAP log in
to fail on the Windows version. Linux version is not affected by this bug.

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From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Fri Jun  5 18:28:20 2015
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 10:28:20 -0600
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail silent on failure to get mail
Message-ID: <20150605102820.723d63c8@dzur.localdomain>

I have several web sites all hosted at the same hosting service.
Several of them have associated email accounts. This account is one of
them, and it works just fine.

I recently set up a new site at the same service, and a new email
account. I copied the setup item for item, with the obvious changes. I
can get mail for this account, and see the usual traffic in the network
log and stdout.

However, when I try the new account, I see nothing in the log and
stdout only shows "++ STATS ++ INC 0 0", exactly what this account
shows. I know there is mail for the new account because I sent two
emails to it, and I can see them in a web mail client on the server.

If there is an error, should I not see an error message?

Why do I not get any output in the log file?

Why do I not get any mail?

-- 

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
-- U.S. Const. Amendment IV

Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0  809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB


From ml at terranean.eu  Sat Jun  6 01:12:26 2015
From: ml at terranean.eu (=?UTF-8?B?U8OpYmFzdGllbg==?=)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 01:12:26 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail silent on failure to get mail
In-Reply-To: <20150605102820.723d63c8@dzur.localdomain>
References: <20150605102820.723d63c8@dzur.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20150606011226.67d939fe@sentinel>

On Fri, 5 Jun 2015 10:28:20 -0600
Charles Curley <charlescurley at charlescurley.com> wrote:
> If there is an error, should I not see an error message?
> 
> Why do I not get any output in the log file?
> 
> Why do I not get any mail?

Check:
Configuration > Preferences... > Logging (sidebar): Disk log:

You can toggle:

- Warning messages
- Error messages
- Network protocol errors
- Status from filtering/processing rules

Make sure "Error messages" and "Network protocol" errors are enabled.

I just left all of them enabled, as I want to know *everything*.

-- 
Sébastien


From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Sat Jun  6 01:25:07 2015
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 17:25:07 -0600
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail silent on failure to get mail
In-Reply-To: <20150606011226.67d939fe@sentinel>
References: <20150605102820.723d63c8@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150606011226.67d939fe@sentinel>
Message-ID: <20150605172507.3d6cd0d7@dzur.localdomain>

On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 01:12:26 +0200
Sébastien <ml at terranean.eu> wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Jun 2015 10:28:20 -0600
> Charles Curley <charlescurley at charlescurley.com> wrote:
> > If there is an error, should I not see an error message?
> > 
> > Why do I not get any output in the log file?
> > 
> > Why do I not get any mail?
> 
> Check:
> Configuration > Preferences... > Logging (sidebar): Disk log:
> 
> You can toggle:
> 
> - Warning messages
> - Error messages
> - Network protocol errors
> - Status from filtering/processing rules
> 
> Make sure "Error messages" and "Network protocol" errors are enabled.

They are, and still no messages. I take it those are global, not per
account. I do see error and network protocol messages for other
accounts.

> 
> I just left all of them enabled, as I want to know *everything*.
> 

My thought exactly.

Thanks

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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
-- U.S. Const. Amendment IV

Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0  809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB


From geek at uniserve.com  Sat Jun  6 01:25:38 2015
From: geek at uniserve.com (Dave Stevens)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:25:38 -0700
Subject: [Users] new account setup wizard when clicking on claws icon
Message-ID: <20150605162538.16873glgilsxs9gy@webmail.uniserve.com>

Worked fine yesterday but 3.9.3 now when I click on the icon gives  
error, "Address Error - could not read address index", then goes  
straight into a new account setup wizard. I've looked into the  
.claws-mail folder and things seem rational, big address book files as  
I would expect, no mail loss that I can see. There are two working  
(until now) accounts.  Suggestions? Diagnostics?

Dave


-- 
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the attenuation of the shadow will not change the substance."

-- John Dewey







From ml at terranean.eu  Sat Jun  6 10:27:46 2015
From: ml at terranean.eu (=?UTF-8?B?U8OpYmFzdGllbg==?=)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 10:27:46 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail silent on failure to get mail
In-Reply-To: <20150605172507.3d6cd0d7@dzur.localdomain>
References: <20150605102820.723d63c8@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150606011226.67d939fe@sentinel>
 <20150605172507.3d6cd0d7@dzur.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20150606102746.38d583d2@sentinel>

On Fri, 5 Jun 2015 17:25:07 -0600 Charles Curley wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 01:12:26 +0200 Sébastien wrote:
> > Make sure "Error messages" and "Network protocol" errors are
> > enabled.
> 
> They are, and still no messages. I take it those are global, not per
> account. I do see error and network protocol messages for other
> accounts.

Hmm strange. Have you tried to remove the account and create a new one
by hand? (not by filling the fields with copy/paste)


-- 
Sébastien


From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Sat Jun  6 15:50:33 2015
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 07:50:33 -0600
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail silent on failure to get mail
In-Reply-To: <20150606102746.38d583d2@sentinel>
References: <20150605102820.723d63c8@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150606011226.67d939fe@sentinel>
 <20150605172507.3d6cd0d7@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150606102746.38d583d2@sentinel>
Message-ID: <20150606075033.7626506c@dzur.localdomain>

On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 10:27:46 +0200
Sébastien <ml at terranean.eu> wrote:

> Hmm strange. Have you tried to remove the account and create a new one
> by hand? (not by filling the fields with copy/paste)

I tried that at your suggestion. When I finished the first page, basic,
I went to return to the working account to check something. So I hit
OK. I got a pop-up window, which asked for a password. I gave it one. I
then saw the following traffic:

* Account 'charles at charlescurley.gop': Connecting to IMAP4 server:
  mail.endcrypt.com... [07:13:14] IMAP4< * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1
  LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE IDLE STARTTLS AUTH=PLAIN
  AUTH=LOGIN] Dovecot ready. 
* IMAP connection is un-authenticated
[07:13:14] IMAP4> 1 CAPABILITY 
[07:13:14] IMAP4< * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR
  LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE IDLE STARTTLS AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=LOGIN
  [07:13:14] IMAP4< 1 OK Capability completed. [07:13:14] IMAP4>
  Logging charles to mail.endcrypt.com using LOGIN [07:13:16] IMAP4<
  Authentication failed. ** IMAP error on mail.endcrypt.com: LOGIN error
[07:13:16] IMAP4< Error logging in to mail.endcrypt.com
*** Connection to mail.endcrypt.com failed: login refused.
[07:13:26] IMAP4> Logging charles to mail.endcrypt.com using LOGIN
[07:13:32] IMAP4< Authentication failed.
** IMAP error on mail.endcrypt.com: LOGIN error
[07:13:32] IMAP4< Error logging in to mail.endcrypt.com
*** Connection to mail.endcrypt.com failed: login refused.
*** Couldn't login to IMAP server mail.endcrypt.com.
[07:13:32] IMAP4> 4 LOGOUT 
[07:13:32] IMAP4< * BYE Logging out 
[07:13:32] IMAP4< 4 OK Logout completed. 

And the following on stdout:


(claws-mail:26460): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_set_tooltip_text:
assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed

** (claws-mail:26460): WARNING **: [07:13:16] IMAP error on
mail.endcrypt.com: LOGIN error


** (claws-mail:26460): WARNING **: [07:13:16] Connection to
mail.endcrypt.com failed: login refused.


** (claws-mail:26460): WARNING **: [07:13:32] IMAP error on
mail.endcrypt.com: LOGIN error


** (claws-mail:26460): WARNING **: [07:13:32] Connection to
mail.endcrypt.com failed: login refused.


** (claws-mail:26460): WARNING **: [07:13:32] Couldn't login to IMAP
server mail.endcrypt.com.


(claws-mail:26460): Claws-Mail-WARNING **: Can't create 'INBOX'


(claws-mail:26460): Claws-Mail-WARNING **: Can't create 'Trash'


(claws-mail:26460): Claws-Mail-WARNING **: Can't create 'Queue'


(claws-mail:26460): Claws-Mail-WARNING **: Can't create 'Sent'


(claws-mail:26460): Claws-Mail-WARNING **: Can't create 'Drafts'

++ STATS ++ INC 2 0

** (claws-mail:26460): CRITICAL **: WebKitDOMRange*
WebKit::kit(WebCore::Range*): assertion `obj' failed




I finished re-setting up the account. I then had Claws get mail on that
account. Nothing.

-- 

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
-- U.S. Const. Amendment IV

Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0  809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB


From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Sat Jun  6 15:56:22 2015
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 07:56:22 -0600
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail silent on failure to get mail
In-Reply-To: <20150606102746.38d583d2@sentinel>
References: <20150605102820.723d63c8@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150606011226.67d939fe@sentinel>
 <20150605172507.3d6cd0d7@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150606102746.38d583d2@sentinel>
Message-ID: <20150606075622.00afc8e5@dzur.localdomain>

On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 10:27:46 +0200
Sébastien <ml at terranean.eu> wrote:

> Hmm strange. Have you tried to remove the account and create a new one
> by hand? (not by filling the fields with copy/paste)

Addendum: When I send from that account, I do see traffic in the
network log window.

-- 

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
-- U.S. Const. Amendment IV

Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0  809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB


From mir at miras.org  Sat Jun  6 15:58:33 2015
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 15:58:33 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail silent on failure to get mail
In-Reply-To: <20150606075033.7626506c@dzur.localdomain>
References: <20150605102820.723d63c8@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150606011226.67d939fe@sentinel>
 <20150605172507.3d6cd0d7@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150606102746.38d583d2@sentinel>
 <20150606075033.7626506c@dzur.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20150606155833.5c8d4bfd@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 07:50:33 -0600
Charles Curley <charlescurley at charlescurley.com> wrote:

> I tried that at your suggestion. When I finished the first page, basic,
> I went to return to the working account to check something. So I hit
> OK. I got a pop-up window, which asked for a password. I gave it one. I
> then saw the following traffic:
> 
> 
> I finished re-setting up the account. I then had Claws get mail on that
> account. Nothing.
> 
Does your password contain any special characters or characters defined
in a special locale?

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
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From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Sat Jun  6 17:20:35 2015
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 09:20:35 -0600
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail silent on failure to get mail
In-Reply-To: <20150606155833.5c8d4bfd@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20150605102820.723d63c8@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150606011226.67d939fe@sentinel>
 <20150605172507.3d6cd0d7@dzur.localdomain>
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Message-ID: <20150606092035.6d530254@dzur.localdomain>

On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 15:58:33 +0200
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> Does your password contain any special characters or characters
> defined in a special locale?

No. All standard ASCII alphanumeric. I use apg to generate passwords.

The hashed version in accountrc has a bang (!) and an equal sign (=).

-- 

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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From gideon425.gb8 at mailnull.com  Sun Jun  7 23:02:51 2015
From: gideon425.gb8 at mailnull.com (gideon425.gb8 at mailnull.com)
Date: Sun,  7 Jun 2015 17:02:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Users] problems with display of main window
Message-ID: <20150607210251.86781D24198@outside.256.com>

Somehow, I have managed to mess up the main window.
Currently the list of messages in a folder is to the right of the list of folders. The viewed message is below the list of messages.

How can I get the list of messages to display below the list of folders?

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From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Jun  7 23:28:36 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 23:28:36 +0200
Subject: [Users] problems with display of main window
In-Reply-To: <20150607210251.86781D24198@outside.256.com>
References: <20150607210251.86781D24198@outside.256.com>
Message-ID: <20150607232836.6f4f6cdb@penny>

On Sun,  7 Jun 2015 17:02:51 -0400 (EDT)
gideon425.gb8 at mailnull.com wrote:

> Somehow, I have managed to mess up the main window.
> Currently the list of messages in a folder is to the right of the list of folders. The viewed message is below the list of messages.
> 
> How can I get the list of messages to display below the list of folders?


Hi, try looking in Layout in main window's View menu.

-- 
Andrej


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun  9 10:09:54 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 08:09:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3434] New: IMAP memory error
Message-ID: <bug-3434-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3434

            Bug ID: 3434
           Summary: IMAP memory error
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.11.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders/IMAP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: alexander.lehmann at tngtech.com

Hi,

whenever I select the INBOX folder of my mail account, I see an "IMAP error on
xxx.yyy.com: memory error" in the log. Also, no new messages show up.

I can access all other folders without any problems. I've ensured that the
folder is subscribed. Using other mail clients I can access the folder without
any problems.

Any ideas? Is there something that I can provide you with (logs, ...)?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun  9 13:14:38 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 11:14:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3434] IMAP memory error
In-Reply-To: <bug-3434-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3434-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3434-595-S59oKPcIsK@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3434

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Hm, that's a generic error coming from libetpan - the library we use for IMAP.
It mostly means "I couldn't allocate new object in memory". Is your system
running out of memory, perhaps? Or do you have unusually large INBOX?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun  9 14:59:48 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 12:59:48 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3434] IMAP memory error
In-Reply-To: <bug-3434-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3434-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3434-595-Qkrcidw9aN@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3434

--- Comment #2 from alexander.lehmann at tngtech.com ---
Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case. The inbox currently contains a
mere 12 messages and the system has plenty of free memory:

              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:            15G        8.0G        318M        423M        7.0G        6.6G
Swap:            0B          0B          0B

I've run claws-mail with the --debug option but wasn't able to gather further
details. Also tried to delete and re-create the account, delete the cache,
rebuild the folder structure, re-subscribe to all folders etc. According to our
system administrator, there's also nothing special in the server logs.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun  9 15:51:25 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 13:51:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3434] IMAP memory error
In-Reply-To: <bug-3434-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3434-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3434-595-340qlz341J@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3434

--- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
What are the last few (dozens of) lines in Network Log before that error
appears? That might help a little in determining what operation failed with
this "memory error".

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun  9 15:59:49 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 13:59:49 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3434] IMAP memory error
In-Reply-To: <bug-3434-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3434-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3434-595-oXbzJNBO1G@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3434

--- Comment #4 from alexander.lehmann at tngtech.com ---
Created attachment 1512
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1512&action=edit
Excerpt from the logfile

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From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Tue Jun  9 17:47:02 2015
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 09:47:02 -0600
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail silent on failure to get mail
In-Reply-To: <20150605102820.723d63c8@dzur.localdomain>
References: <20150605102820.723d63c8@dzur.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20150609094702.3f449e4f@dzur.localdomain>

On Fri, 5 Jun 2015 10:28:20 -0600
Charles Curley <charlescurley at charlescurley.com> wrote:

> I have several web sites all hosted at the same hosting service.
> Several of them have associated email accounts. This account is one of
> them, and it works just fine.

Just for the halibut, I installed icedove (Debian's rebrand of Mozilla
Thunderbird), and set it up with just the new account. It works just
fine.

Here is a conjecture as to claws-mails' problem: Both accounts are on
the same server, and both use SSL/TLS. The SSL connection for this
account is made first, and then stay up. (At the moment I have at lease
one connection running, possibly 7 depending on how you read the output
from lsof.)

So: does having an SSL connection open for one account prevent
claws-mail from accessing the other account?

BTW, icedove has a nice feature: partial detection of account settings,
once you have some data entered.

-- 

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
-- U.S. Const. Amendment IV

Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0  809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB


From andrej at kacian.sk  Tue Jun  9 18:11:30 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 18:11:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail silent on failure to get mail
In-Reply-To: <20150609094702.3f449e4f@dzur.localdomain>
References: <20150605102820.723d63c8@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150609094702.3f449e4f@dzur.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20150609181130.4068fa5a@penny>

On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 09:47:02 -0600
Charles Curley <charlescurley at charlescurley.com> wrote:

> BTW, icedove has a nice feature: partial detection of account settings,
> once you have some data entered.

Just a side note - I notice that you are using Claws Mail 3.8.1. That
is a version almost 3 years old. More recent versions have some
sort of account settings auto-detection.

-- 
Andrej


From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Tue Jun  9 18:23:25 2015
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 10:23:25 -0600
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail silent on failure to get mail
In-Reply-To: <20150609181130.4068fa5a@penny>
References: <20150605102820.723d63c8@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150609094702.3f449e4f@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150609181130.4068fa5a@penny>
Message-ID: <20150609102325.6619a400@dzur.localdomain>

On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 18:11:30 +0200
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> Just a side note - I notice that you are using Claws Mail 3.8.1. That
> is a version almost 3 years old. More recent versions have some
> sort of account settings auto-detection.

Thanks. I am in the process of upgrading eight machines from Debian 7.8
to 8.1. That has 3.11.1-3.

-- 

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
-- U.S. Const. Amendment IV

Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0  809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB


From mir at miras.org  Tue Jun  9 18:30:19 2015
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 18:30:19 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail silent on failure to get mail
In-Reply-To: <20150609181130.4068fa5a@penny>
References: <20150605102820.723d63c8@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150609094702.3f449e4f@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150609181130.4068fa5a@penny>
Message-ID: <20150609183019.351cce19@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 18:11:30 +0200
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> 
> Just a side note - I notice that you are using Claws Mail 3.8.1. That
> is a version almost 3 years old. More recent versions have some
> sort of account settings auto-detection.
> 
3.10 and 3.11 has also seen extensive updates regarding the SSL part as
well as some bug fixes in mail receiving/sending with IMAP.

-- 
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Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
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From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Tue Jun  9 18:44:44 2015
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 10:44:44 -0600
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail silent on failure to get mail
In-Reply-To: <20150609183019.351cce19@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20150605102820.723d63c8@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150609094702.3f449e4f@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150609181130.4068fa5a@penny>
 <20150609183019.351cce19@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20150609104444.06b2093e@dzur.localdomain>

On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 18:30:19 +0200
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> 3.10 and 3.11 has also seen extensive updates regarding the SSL part
> as well as some bug fixes in mail receiving/sending with IMAP.

Thanks. I will see what I can do there, then.

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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Tue Jun  9 18:56:25 2015
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 10:56:25 -0600
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail silent on failure to get mail
In-Reply-To: <20150609104444.06b2093e@dzur.localdomain>
References: <20150605102820.723d63c8@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150609094702.3f449e4f@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150609181130.4068fa5a@penny>
 <20150609183019.351cce19@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150609104444.06b2093e@dzur.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20150609105625.0408eae4@orca.localdomain>

On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 10:44:44 -0600
Charles Curley <charlescurley at charlescurley.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 18:30:19 +0200
> Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:
> 
> > 3.10 and 3.11 has also seen extensive updates regarding the SSL part
> > as well as some bug fixes in mail receiving/sending with IMAP.  
> 
> Thanks. I will see what I can do there, then.

I'm on an updated machine. I now get no console message for either
account. The old account (this one) works, but the new one still does
not. I get traffic in the network window for this account, but nothing
for the new account.

Curiouser and curiouser.

-- 

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
-- U.S. Const. Amendment IV

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From ricardo at mones.org  Tue Jun  9 19:09:45 2015
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 19:09:45 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail silent on failure to get mail
In-Reply-To: <20150609105625.0408eae4@orca.localdomain>
References: <20150605102820.723d63c8@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150609094702.3f449e4f@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150609181130.4068fa5a@penny>
 <20150609183019.351cce19@sleipner.datanom.net>
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 <20150609105625.0408eae4@orca.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20150609190945.67e11820@busgosu>

On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 10:56:25 -0600
Charles Curley <charlescurley at charlescurley.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 10:44:44 -0600
> Charles Curley <charlescurley at charlescurley.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 18:30:19 +0200
> > Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > 3.10 and 3.11 has also seen extensive updates regarding the SSL part
> > > as well as some bug fixes in mail receiving/sending with IMAP.  
> > 
> > Thanks. I will see what I can do there, then.
> 
> I'm on an updated machine. I now get no console message for either
> account. The old account (this one) works, but the new one still does
> not. I get traffic in the network window for this account, but nothing
> for the new account.

I guess it's time for running “claws-mail --debug” in a terminal and see
what happens…

regards,
-- 
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  ~
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun  9 19:50:45 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 17:50:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3434] IMAP memory error
In-Reply-To: <bug-3434-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3434-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3434-595-l9eBhrX9Sm@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3434

--- Comment #5 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Hmm, I think a better idea would be to attach console output of a "claws-mail
--debug" run from time between pressing Get Mail (or clicking INBOX, or however
you initiate the IMAP connection) and getting the memory error. The content of
network log are part of that, and that should get us even better idea on what
command originated from which part of the code.

Sorry, I am not that familiar with internals of IMAP in Claws Mail yet and need
this crutch to try to figure out which instance of imap_handle_error() from
imap.c, and therefore, which IMAP operation the error comes from.

Make sure you edit out any private details from the output.

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From mir at miras.org  Tue Jun  9 20:09:39 2015
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 20:09:39 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3434] IMAP memory error
In-Reply-To: <bug-3434-595-l9eBhrX9Sm@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3434-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3434-595-l9eBhrX9Sm@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20150609200939.71c355ea@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Tue, 09 Jun 2015 17:50:45 +0000
noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:

> 
> Sorry, I am not that familiar with internals of IMAP in Claws Mail yet and need
> this crutch to try to figure out which instance of imap_handle_error() from
> imap.c, and therefore, which IMAP operation the error comes from.
> 
Be advised though, that must often, but not always, IMAP errors are
simply passed through from lower level layers which almost always
propagates from libetpan. Be also advised that sometimes the generic
libetpan error handlers shields away the actual error producing a
'static' error message, of these kinds network timeouts and protocol
violations are prime candidates. If this is the cause only running
inside a debugger will reveal the actual cause.

-- 
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Get my public GnuPG keys:
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From mir at miras.org  Tue Jun  9 20:14:41 2015
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 20:14:41 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3434] IMAP memory error
In-Reply-To: <20150609200939.71c355ea@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <bug-3434-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3434-595-l9eBhrX9Sm@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <20150609200939.71c355ea@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20150609201441.4dc5e6cc@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 20:09:39 +0200
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> Be advised though, that must often, but not always, IMAP errors are
> simply passed through from lower level layers which almost always
> propagates from libetpan. Be also advised that sometimes the generic
> libetpan error handlers shields away the actual error producing a
> 'static' error message, of these kinds network timeouts and protocol
> violations are prime candidates. If this is the cause only running
> inside a debugger will reveal the actual cause.
> 
I forgot to warn you. Debugging Claws' libetpan + IMAP code is like
having a conversation of moral and ethics with the devil - very
often things are just not like what one would expect;-)

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From andrej at kacian.sk  Tue Jun  9 20:32:00 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 20:32:00 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3434] IMAP memory error
In-Reply-To: <20150609201441.4dc5e6cc@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <bug-3434-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3434-595-l9eBhrX9Sm@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <20150609200939.71c355ea@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150609201441.4dc5e6cc@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20150609203200.18d51c1e@penny>

On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 20:14:41 +0200
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> I forgot to warn you. Debugging Claws' libetpan + IMAP code is like
> having a conversation of moral and ethics with the devil - very
> often things are just not like what one would expect;-)

That's why I try to stay away from IMAP code as much as I can. :) In
this case, however, I am curious - the memory error is a specific
libetpan error code that only gets set if it can't allocate some memory
object - e.g. a new clist member, new data structure. It shouldn't come
from any network issue or anything like that.

-- 
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 10 10:01:29 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 08:01:29 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3434] IMAP memory error
In-Reply-To: <bug-3434-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3434-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3434-595-3aCttn9Quh@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3434

alexander.lehmann at tngtech.com changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Attachment #1512|0                           |1
        is obsolete|                            |

--- Comment #6 from alexander.lehmann at tngtech.com ---
Created attachment 1513
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claws-mail --debug

Thanks for taking the time to look into this matter! (And thanks for the
reminder of removing all private output from the logfile. I think that's really
something worth pointing out.)

I've attached the requested log. Hope it helps to reveal the culprit.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 10 13:19:39 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:19:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3435] New: Program received signal SIGSEGV,
	Segmentation fault.
Message-ID: <bug-3435-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3435

            Bug ID: 3435
           Summary: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.11.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: blocker
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: olivier.mellina at eesp.ch

Claws-mail crash on startup.

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[Switching to Thread 0x7fffd7ae8700 (LWP 2317)]
0x00007ffff1c6c72e in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6


Thread 3 (Thread 0x7fffd7ae8700 (LWP 2317)):
#0  0x00007ffff1c6c72e in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007ffff2a44d1f in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgnutls-deb0.so.28
#2  0x00007ffff2a44c19 in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgnutls-deb0.so.28
#3  0x00007ffff29c896c in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgnutls-deb0.so.28
#4  0x00007ffff2a31a22 in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgnutls-deb0.so.28
#5  0x00007ffff2a396ba in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgnutls-deb0.so.28
#6  0x00007ffff29b8dc2 in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgnutls-deb0.so.28
#7  0x00007ffff29b4ed8 in gnutls_handshake () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgnutls-deb0.so.28
#8  0x00007ffff2cd67e2 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libetpan.so.17
#9  0x00007ffff2cd6925 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libetpan.so.17
#10 0x00000000005c5def in ?? ()
#11 0x00000000005ea5f9 in ?? ()
#12 0x00007ffff43180a4 in start_thread () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
#13 0x00007ffff1cc204d in clone () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6

Thread 2 (Thread 0x7fffe9610700 (LWP 2306)):
#0  0x00007ffff1cb950d in poll () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007ffff3562ebc in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x00007ffff3563242 in g_main_loop_run () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x00007ffff6083af6 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgio-2.0.so.0
#4  0x00007ffff3589955 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
#5  0x00007ffff43180a4 in start_thread () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
#6  0x00007ffff1cc204d in clone () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6

Thread 1 (Thread 0x7ffff7fbea00 (LWP 2302)):
#0  0x00007ffff1cb950d in poll () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007ffff3562ebc in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x00007ffff3562fcc in g_main_context_iteration () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x00007ffff70757b1 in gtk_main_iteration () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#4  0x00000000005c58b5 in ?? ()
#5  0x00000000005c8a1a in imap_threaded_starttls ()
#6  0x00000000004a24fd in ?? ()
#7  0x00000000004a38b8 in ?? ()
#8  0x00000000004a53a8 in ?? ()
#9  0x000000000049b566 in folderview_check_new ()
#10 0x00000000004b36fd in inc_all_account_mail ()
#11 0x00000000004b4248 in ?? ()
#12 0x00007ffff35635e3 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#13 0x00007ffff3562b4d in g_main_context_dispatch () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#14 0x00007ffff3562f20 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#15 0x00007ffff3563242 in g_main_loop_run () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#16 0x00007ffff7075597 in gtk_main () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#17 0x0000000000449814 in main ()

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From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Wed Jun 10 14:45:23 2015
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 06:45:23 -0600
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail silent on failure to get mail
In-Reply-To: <20150605102820.723d63c8@dzur.localdomain>
References: <20150605102820.723d63c8@dzur.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20150610064523.72368314@dzur.localdomain>

On Fri, 5 Jun 2015 10:28:20 -0600
Charles Curley <charlescurley at charlescurley.com> wrote:

> I have several web sites all hosted at the same hosting service.
> Several of them have associated email accounts. This account is one of
> them, and it works just fine.

I have a partial success. I went to one of the machines that has Debian
8, and therefor claws-mail 3.11.1-3. I removed the old configuration
for the new account, and re-entered it. (The auto-configuration tool
failed.) That worked to the point that I can now see the mail folders
on the server. I should be able to set up filtering and other
customizations.

I say, partial success, because I am not yet ready to migrate entirely
to Debian 8.

So: Can I shut down claws-mail on both computers, and cut and paste the
new configuration from the new machine's accountrc into the old
machine's?

I diffed the two files. The newer version has two settings for all
accounts the older one does not have: gnutls_set_priority=0,
gnutls_priority=, and ssl_certs_auto_accept=0.

The difference in the two account setups seems to be that the 3.11
version has set_smtpport=0 and set_imapport=0, the older sets both to 1.
The manually set ports (465 and 993, respectively) are correct.

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and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
-- U.S. Const. Amendment IV

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 10 14:54:25 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:54:25 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail silent on failure to get mail
In-Reply-To: <20150610064523.72368314@dzur.localdomain>
References: <20150605102820.723d63c8@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150610064523.72368314@dzur.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20150610135425.76701463@kujata>

On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 06:45:23 -0600
Charles Curley <charlescurley at charlescurley.com> wrote: 

> I say, partial success, because I am not yet ready to migrate
> entirely to Debian 8.

I call that total success.

> So: Can I shut down claws-mail on both computers, and cut and paste
> the new configuration from the new machine's accountrc into the old
> machine's?

Yes.

> The difference in the two account setups seems to be that the 3.11
> version has set_smtpport=0 and set_imapport=0, the older sets both
> to 1. The manually set ports (465 and 993, respectively) are
> correct.

If that's the only difference then the problem is user configuration
error, but I suspect the real cause is fixed somewhere in the
numerous changes since the 'ancient' 3.8.1 version.

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 10 15:26:43 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:26:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3436] New: claws-mail segfaults when trying to connect
 to IMAP server
Message-ID: <bug-3436-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3436

            Bug ID: 3436
           Summary: claws-mail segfaults when trying to connect to IMAP
                    server
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.11.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: blocker
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders/IMAP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: rlcamp1 at gmail.com

Created attachment 1514
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output of backtrace with new IMAP account created

This morning claws-mail suddenly crashed with a segmentation fault when
starting up.  I ran the debug version with gdb and got a backtrace.  I thought
it was something to do with the "gdata" plugin, so I tried removing that by
editing the clawsrc file.  Still no luck, so I moved the .claws-mail directory
out of the way and started afresh.  When creating a gmail account, it crashed
again as soon as it tried to access it.  The attached backtrace is from the
latter (I thought it might be simpler).

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 10 15:38:23 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:38:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3436] claws-mail segfaults when trying to connect to
 IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <bug-3436-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3436-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3436-595-bfrrN6rJQc@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3436

--- Comment #1 from Rob Campbell <rlcamp1 at gmail.com> ---
It appears that this segfault only occurs with SSL-enabled IMAP.  I have a
different account that doesn't use SSL and I could create an account and
connect to that just fine.

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From mir at miras.org  Wed Jun 10 15:49:19 2015
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:49:19 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail silent on failure to get mail
In-Reply-To: <20150610135425.76701463@kujata>
References: <20150605102820.723d63c8@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150610064523.72368314@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150610135425.76701463@kujata>
Message-ID: <20150610154919.69ad543b@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:54:25 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> 
> If that's the only difference then the problem is user configuration
> error, but I suspect the real cause is fixed somewhere in the
> numerous changes since the 'ancient' 3.8.1 version.
> 
My bet is the SSL management. If this is the case it will never work on
3.8.1.

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From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Wed Jun 10 16:22:04 2015
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 08:22:04 -0600
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail silent on failure to get mail
In-Reply-To: <20150610154919.69ad543b@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20150605102820.723d63c8@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150610064523.72368314@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150610135425.76701463@kujata>
 <20150610154919.69ad543b@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20150610082204.3d221c29@dzur.localdomain>

On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:49:19 +0200
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:54:25 +0100
> Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > If that's the only difference then the problem is user configuration
> > error, but I suspect the real cause is fixed somewhere in the
> > numerous changes since the 'ancient' 3.8.1 version.
> > 
> My bet is the SSL management. If this is the case it will never work
> on 3.8.1.
> 

Then I think the workaround for now is to move claws-mail operations to
the upgraded machine for now, and access it from the desktop via SSH.
Since that machine is a laptop, that should solve the laptop problem for
now. I have unison profiles for ~/.claws-mail and for ~/Mail, so that
migration should be straight-forward in most cases.

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and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 10 16:26:18 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:26:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3436] claws-mail segfaults when trying to connect to
 IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <bug-3436-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3436-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3436-595-cbYESipDpP@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3436

--- Comment #2 from Rob Campbell <rlcamp1 at gmail.com> ---
In trying to figure out what might have changed between yesterday when it ran
fine and today, I looked at what other packages changed on my system (Debian
Testing amd64).  The only changes to claws-mail's dependencies between when I
started the program yesterday and when I restarted it today were updates to the
packages:

libldap-2.4-2
libarchive13

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 10 16:54:26 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:54:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3436] claws-mail segfaults when trying to connect to
 IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <bug-3436-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3436-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3436-595-mGXrOmVkR6@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3436

--- Comment #3 from Michael Rasmussen <mir at datanom.net> ---
(In reply to comment #2)
> In trying to figure out what might have changed between yesterday when it
> ran fine and today, I looked at what other packages changed on my system
> (Debian Testing amd64).  The only changes to claws-mail's dependencies
> between when I started the program yesterday and when I restarted it today
> were updates to the packages:
> 
> libldap-2.4-2
> libarchive13

These packages is not relevant for the bug in question. What is relevant is
this from your debug log:
imap-thread.c:409:generic_cb
ssl_certificate.c:260:got 180 certs in crt_list! 0x7fffffffdd18
ssl_certificate.c:429:didn't get
/home/rlc/.claws-mail/certs/imap.gmail.com.993.cert

Does this file exist: /home/rlc/.claws-mail/certs/imap.gmail.com.993.cert

I guess not and then claws fails to fetch/show the certificate from gmail.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 10 17:15:13 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:15:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3436] claws-mail segfaults when trying to connect to
 IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <bug-3436-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3436-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3436-595-AOSVNnfhdA@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3436

--- Comment #4 from Rob Campbell <rlcamp1 at gmail.com> ---
Created attachment 1515
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1515&action=edit
A different backtrace output

This is the output of the backtrace for the original IMAP accounts rather than
when trying to run claws-mail on a fresh directory tree.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 10 17:16:51 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:16:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3436] claws-mail segfaults when trying to connect to
 IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <bug-3436-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3436-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3436-595-9mqZCEl1dx@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3436

--- Comment #5 from Rob Campbell <rlcamp1 at gmail.com> ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> (In reply to comment #2)
> > In trying to figure out what might have changed between yesterday when it
> > ran fine and today, I looked at what other packages changed on my system
> > (Debian Testing amd64).  The only changes to claws-mail's dependencies
> > between when I started the program yesterday and when I restarted it today
> > were updates to the packages:
> > 
> > libldap-2.4-2
> > libarchive13
> 
> These packages is not relevant for the bug in question. What is relevant is
> this from your debug log:
> imap-thread.c:409:generic_cb
> ssl_certificate.c:260:got 180 certs in crt_list! 0x7fffffffdd18
> ssl_certificate.c:429:didn't get
> /home/rlc/.claws-mail/certs/imap.gmail.com.993.cert
> 
> Does this file exist: /home/rlc/.claws-mail/certs/imap.gmail.com.993.cert
> 
> I guess not and then claws fails to fetch/show the certificate from gmail.

Well that was when I moved the original .claws-mail and Claws_Mail directories
out of the way and started creating a fresh gmail account.  So, no, the
certificate wasn't there.  I've attached another backtrace file from when the
original .claws-mail and Claws_Mail directories were put back so that it is
trying to access my original IMAP accounts (work and gmail).

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 10 17:54:21 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 16:54:21 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws-mail silent on failure to get mail
In-Reply-To: <20150610082204.3d221c29@dzur.localdomain>
References: <20150605102820.723d63c8@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150610064523.72368314@dzur.localdomain>
 <20150610135425.76701463@kujata>
 <20150610154919.69ad543b@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150610082204.3d221c29@dzur.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20150610165421.62601305@kujata>

On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 08:22:04 -0600
Charles Curley <charlescurley at charlescurley.com> wrote: 

> Then I think the workaround for now is to move claws-mail
> operations to the upgraded machine for now

You could always build Claws Mail yourself.

with regards

Paul


From clifflaine at europe.com  Wed Jun 10 18:41:30 2015
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 17:41:30 +0100
Subject: [Users] Disappearing sent mail
Message-ID: <20150610174130.31251440@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

Hello, I've had to do a complete new install of Elementary OS and
things are going a bit odd with a couple of my IMAP accounts.

I have the option in Preferences > Advanced to "Save outgoing mail in
[the Sent folder]."

When I send anything using IMAP, the message just disappears into the
ether. It's nowhere to be seen.  It arrives at the addressee, but
obviously I need copies of what I've sent. This is happening on
accounts with mail.com and with 123-reg.co.uk.  Could anyone suggest
what might be happening?

Thank you 

Cliff

CM 3.11.1
KDE 4.14.2



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 10 18:44:43 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 16:44:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3436] claws-mail segfaults when trying to connect to
 IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <bug-3436-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3436-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3436-595-9mp4rgvuhe@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3436

--- Comment #6 from Rob Campbell <rlcamp1 at gmail.com> ---
Sigh...  I tried on two other computers and tried to set up the same set of
accounts.  One worked fine the other also segfaulted.  Both machines are also
running the Debian Testing distribution.  The one that segfaulted is an amd64
while the one that did not is i386.

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From rsv869 at runbox.com  Wed Jun 10 18:46:40 2015
From: rsv869 at runbox.com (Reid Vail)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 12:46:40 -0400
Subject: [Users] Disappearing sent mail
In-Reply-To: <20150610174130.31251440@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20150610174130.31251440@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <2FF564A3-4558-4E42-8401-BF733E506037@runbox.com>

I have exactly the same issue.

Reid

On June 10, 2015 12:41:30 PM EDT, Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote:
>Hello, I've had to do a complete new install of Elementary OS and
>things are going a bit odd with a couple of my IMAP accounts.
>
>I have the option in Preferences > Advanced to "Save outgoing mail in
>[the Sent folder]."
>
>When I send anything using IMAP, the message just disappears into the
>ether. It's nowhere to be seen.  It arrives at the addressee, but
>obviously I need copies of what I've sent. This is happening on
>accounts with mail.com and with 123-reg.co.uk.  Could anyone suggest
>what might be happening?
>
>Thank you 
>
>Cliff
>
>CM 3.11.1
>KDE 4.14.2
>
>_______________________________________________
>Users mailing list
>Users at lists.claws-mail.org
>http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 10 19:00:53 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:00:53 +0100
Subject: [Users] Disappearing sent mail
In-Reply-To: <20150610174130.31251440@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20150610174130.31251440@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20150610180053.48abe512@kujata>

On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 17:41:30 +0100
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote: 

> I have the option in Preferences > Advanced to "Save outgoing mail
> in [the Sent folder]."
> 
> When I send anything using IMAP, the message just disappears into
> the ether. It's nowhere to be seen.  It arrives at the addressee,
> but obviously I need copies of what I've sent. This is happening on
> accounts with mail.com and with 123-reg.co.uk.  Could anyone suggest
> what might be happening?

Is your 'sent folder' a real sent folder or just a normal folder that
you thought you'd use a sent folder?

A real sent folder has an icon like that one attached, if using the
default theme.

If you look at the folder properties, a real sent folder will be of
Folder Type 'outbox'.

with regards

Paul
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From clifflaine at europe.com  Wed Jun 10 19:15:10 2015
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:15:10 +0100
Subject: [Users] Disappearing sent mail
In-Reply-To: <20150610180053.48abe512@kujata>
References: <20150610174130.31251440@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150610180053.48abe512@kujata>
Message-ID: <20150610181510.13458a2b@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:00:53 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> Is your 'sent folder' a real sent folder or just a normal folder that
> you thought you'd use a sent folder?
> 
> A real sent folder has an icon like that one attached, if using the
> default theme.
> 
> If you look at the folder properties, a real sent folder will be of
> Folder Type 'outbox'.
> 

Yes, it's got the icon, and both accounts' Sent folders are of type
"outbox".

Cliff


From clifflaine at europe.com  Wed Jun 10 19:16:58 2015
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:16:58 +0100
Subject: [Users] Disappearing sent mail
In-Reply-To: <20150610181510.13458a2b@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20150610174130.31251440@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150610180053.48abe512@kujata>
 <20150610181510.13458a2b@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20150610181658.26355216@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

And yes I'm using the default theme.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 10 19:19:51 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:19:51 +0100
Subject: [Users] Disappearing sent mail
In-Reply-To: <20150610181510.13458a2b@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20150610174130.31251440@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150610180053.48abe512@kujata>
 <20150610181510.13458a2b@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20150610181951.470fdc9c@kujata>

On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:15:10 +0100
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote: 

> Yes, it's got the icon, and both accounts' Sent folders are of type
> "outbox".

OK. Please paste the text of network log during this operation.

with regards

Paul


From clifflaine at europe.com  Wed Jun 10 19:23:44 2015
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:23:44 +0100
Subject: [Users] Disappearing sent mail
In-Reply-To: <20150610181951.470fdc9c@kujata>
References: <20150610174130.31251440@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150610180053.48abe512@kujata>
 <20150610181510.13458a2b@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150610181951.470fdc9c@kujata>
Message-ID: <20150610182344.26ccc5c2@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:19:51 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:15:10 +0100
> Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote: 
> 
> > Yes, it's got the icon, and both accounts' Sent folders are of type
> > "outbox".
> 
> OK. Please paste the text of network log during this operation.
> 


* Account 'Europe': Connecting to SMTP server: smtp.mail.com:587...
[18:20:57] SMTP< 220 gmx.com (mrgmxus001) Nemesis ESMTP Service ready
[18:20:57] ESMTP> EHLO xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx
[18:20:57] ESMTP< 250-gmx.com Hello xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx
  [31.185.42.198] [18:20:57] ESMTP< 250-SIZE 69920427
[18:20:57] ESMTP< 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN
[18:20:57] ESMTP< 250 STARTTLS
[18:20:57] ESMTP> AUTH LOGIN
[18:20:57] ESMTP< 334 VXNlcmxxxxxx
[18:20:57] ESMTP> [USERID]
[18:20:57] ESMTP< 334 UGFzc3xxxxxx
[18:20:57] ESMTP> [PASSWORD]
[18:20:58] ESMTP< 235 Authentication succeeded
[18:20:58] ESMTP> MAIL FROM:<clifflaine at europe.com> SIZE=429
[18:20:58] SMTP< 250 Requested mail action okay, completed
[18:20:58] SMTP> RCPT TO:<someone at somewhere.com>
[18:20:59] SMTP< 250 OK
[18:20:59] SMTP> DATA
[18:20:59] SMTP< 354 Start mail input; end with <CRLF>.<CRLF>
[18:20:59] SMTP> . (EOM)
[18:21:00] SMTP< 250 Requested mail action okay, completed:
  id=0MaIcY-1YisPi2qEa-00Jor4
* Mail sent successfully.
[18:21:00] SMTP> QUIT
[18:21:00] SMTP< 221 gmx.com Service closing transmission channel
[18:21:00] IMAP4> 366 UID STORE 49 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted) 
[18:21:00] IMAP4< 366 OK UID STORE completed 
[18:21:00] IMAP4> 367 EXPUNGE 
[18:21:01] IMAP4< * 1 EXPUNGE 
[18:21:01] IMAP4< * 0 EXISTS 
[18:21:01] IMAP4< * 0 RECENT 
[18:21:01] IMAP4< 367 OK EXPUNGE completed 
[18:21:01] IMAP4- [fetching UIDs...]
[18:21:01] IMAP4> 368 UID FETCH 1:* (UID) 
[18:21:01] IMAP4< 368 OK UID FETCH completed 
[18:21:18] IMAP4> 110 NOOP 
[18:21:18] IMAP4< 110 OK NOOP completed. 
[18:21:21] IMAP4> 369 NOOP 
[18:21:21] IMAP4< 369 OK NOOP completed 


From rikona at sonic.net  Thu Jun 11 06:28:38 2015
From: rikona at sonic.net (rikona)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 21:28:38 -0700
Subject: [Users] moving CM?
Message-ID: <76800171.20150610212838@sonic.net>

Running CM 3.8.0 [I know it's old :-) ]. I want to move data,
settings, etc to another box, probably running a later version of CM.
Is this possible between rather different versions? What is the best
way to do this move? Is sequence important - CM then data, or data
then CM, or mixed?

thanks,

  rikona



From clifflaine at europe.com  Thu Jun 11 14:03:31 2015
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:03:31 +0100
Subject: [Users] Disappearing sent mail
In-Reply-To: <20150610174130.31251440@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20150610174130.31251440@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20150611130331.230f16f9@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

Right -- I've found a workround for the problem of all my outgoing
mail disappearing. (It's started happening on a POP3 account too -- I
thought it was something to do with IMAP).

If I bcc myself into every reply I make, my reply appears as it used
to -- i.e., as the next, indented post in the thread. Fortunately this
can be set up automatically in the account preferences.

Configuration > Edit Accounts > [account x] > Compose > Automatically
set the following addresses > Bcc [my address]

Still think it's a major fault, but having wasted all this morning
trying out half a dozen other email clients, a Claws held together with
sellotape and a plaster is still better than any of the rest!

Cliff


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 11 14:17:43 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:17:43 +0100
Subject: [Users] Disappearing sent mail
In-Reply-To: <20150611130331.230f16f9@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20150610174130.31251440@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150611130331.230f16f9@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20150611131743.7dc32eaf@kujata>

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:03:31 +0100
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote: 

> Still think it's a major fault

Sounds like a server issue to me.

with regards

Paul


From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org  Thu Jun 11 14:18:54 2015
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron))
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 08:18:54 -0400
Subject: [Users] Drafts folder highlighted as if it contained new and
 unread messages
In-Reply-To: <20140224170231.GJ21209@trasgu>
References: <20140224134153.5fb8ebba@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20140224170231.GJ21209@trasgu>
Message-ID: <20150611081854.12426aaf@ron.cerrocora.org>

On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:02:31 +0100
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:

> Don't take the name of root in vain.          /usr/src/linux/README

ron at ron:~ $ cat /usr/src/linux/README
cat: /usr/src/linux/README: No such file or directory
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
-- 
                      God, I wish ignorance was painful.
                                           -- James Knox
                                    
                   -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
 



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 11 14:21:06 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:21:06 +0100
Subject: [Users] Disappearing sent mail
In-Reply-To: <20150611130331.230f16f9@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20150610174130.31251440@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150611130331.230f16f9@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20150611132106.282f0918@kujata>

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:03:31 +0100
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote: 

> Right -- I've found a workround for the problem of all my outgoing
> mail disappearing. (It's started happening on a POP3 account too --
> I thought it was something to do with IMAP).

POP mail uses a local MH mailbox, and presumably your POP sent
folder is in that MH mailbox too. If that is the case, then this
must be a local issue with your configuration. Can you start with
`claws-mail --debug` and paste the debug output on sending a message
which is due to be saved in your MH mailbox sent folder? 

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 11 14:23:45 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:23:45 +0100
Subject: [Users] moving CM?
In-Reply-To: <76800171.20150610212838@sonic.net>
References: <76800171.20150610212838@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <20150611132345.44d9e689@kujata>

On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 21:28:38 -0700
rikona <rikona at sonic.net> wrote: 

> Running CM 3.8.0 [I know it's old :-) ]. I want to move data,
> settings, etc to another box, probably running a later version of
> CM. Is this possible between rather different versions? What is the
> best way to do this move? Is sequence important - CM then data, or
> data then CM, or mixed?

Make a tarball of ~/.claws-mail and of your MH mailbox, if you have
one. This will preserve the modification times, which is important.
Don't forget to include the dot files.

Do that and there will be no problem with moving the data.

with regards

Paul


From clifflaine at europe.com  Thu Jun 11 15:09:19 2015
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:09:19 +0100
Subject: [Users] Disappearing sent mail
In-Reply-To: <20150611132106.282f0918@kujata>
References: <20150610174130.31251440@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150611130331.230f16f9@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150611132106.282f0918@kujata>
Message-ID: <20150611140919.41970411@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:21:06 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:


> POP mail uses a local MH mailbox, and presumably your POP sent
> folder is in that MH mailbox too. If that is the case, then this
> must be a local issue with your configuration. Can you start with
> `claws-mail --debug` and paste the debug output on sending a message
> which is due to be saved in your MH mailbox sent folder? 
> 

It goes on and on forever but here goes 
http://pastebin.com/1WUenw6Y


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 11 15:13:41 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:13:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] Disappearing sent mail
In-Reply-To: <20150611140919.41970411@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20150610174130.31251440@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150611130331.230f16f9@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150611132106.282f0918@kujata>
 <20150611140919.41970411@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20150611141341.0d522c21@kujata>

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:09:19 +0100
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote: 

> It goes on and on forever but here goes 
> http://pastebin.com/1WUenw6Y

I see a queued message there but I don't see any message sending
going on.

with regards

Paul


From clifflaine at europe.com  Thu Jun 11 15:34:15 2015
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:34:15 +0100
Subject: [Users] Disappearing sent mail
In-Reply-To: <20150611141341.0d522c21@kujata>
References: <20150610174130.31251440@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150611130331.230f16f9@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150611132106.282f0918@kujata>
 <20150611140919.41970411@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150611141341.0d522c21@kujata>
Message-ID: <20150611143415.5f44c668@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:13:41 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:09:19 +0100
> Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote: 
> 
> > It goes on and on forever but here goes 
> > http://pastebin.com/1WUenw6Y
> 
> I see a queued message there but I don't see any message sending
> going on.
> 

Well it appears to have arrived -- see image.
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 11 16:56:22 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 15:56:22 +0100
Subject: [Users] Disappearing sent mail
In-Reply-To: <20150611143415.5f44c668@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20150610174130.31251440@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150611130331.230f16f9@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150611132106.282f0918@kujata>
 <20150611140919.41970411@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150611141341.0d522c21@kujata>
 <20150611143415.5f44c668@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20150611155622.6b1efc36@kujata>

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:34:15 +0100
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote: 

> Well it appears to have arrived

You pasted the wrong part then.

with regards

Paul


From clifflaine at europe.com  Thu Jun 11 17:06:41 2015
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 16:06:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] Disappearing sent mail
In-Reply-To: <20150611155622.6b1efc36@kujata>
References: <20150610174130.31251440@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150611130331.230f16f9@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150611132106.282f0918@kujata>
 <20150611140919.41970411@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150611141341.0d522c21@kujata>
 <20150611143415.5f44c668@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150611155622.6b1efc36@kujata>
Message-ID: <20150611160641.4ec3582e@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 15:56:22 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:34:15 +0100
> Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote: 
> 
> > Well it appears to have arrived
> 
> You pasted the wrong part then.
> 

Oh right then, I thought I'd pasted the whole thing but it doesn't
matter,  just setting the bcc to myself works so that'll do. Thank you
for your patience in looking at this. 

Cliff


From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Thu Jun 11 17:16:15 2015
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 09:16:15 -0600
Subject: [Users] "IcedTea-Web plugin is using out-dated configuration" on
	stdout
Message-ID: <20150611091615.5f6a45d6@orca.localdomain>

I got this error message on stdout after moving from claws-mail 3.8 on
Debian 7.8 (wheezy) to claws-mail 3.11.1 on Debian 8.1 (jessie). It
isn't a claws-mail issue per se, but other folks in a similar situation
may see it. It appears to be a harmless but obnoxious error.

The solution appears to be:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=182637. In my situation, the
configuration tool moved things from ~/.icedtea/ (which I subsequently
removed) to ~/.config/icedtea-web/.

-- 

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
-- U.S. Const. Amendment IV

Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0  809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB


From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Thu Jun 11 17:19:18 2015
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 09:19:18 -0600
Subject: [Users] "IcedTea-Web plugin is using out-dated configuration"
 on stdout
In-Reply-To: <20150611091615.5f6a45d6@orca.localdomain>
References: <20150611091615.5f6a45d6@orca.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20150611091918.54863e9b@orca.localdomain>

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 09:16:15 -0600
Charles Curley <charlescurley at charlescurley.com> wrote:

> In my situation, the
> configuration tool moved things from ~/.icedtea/ (which I subsequently
> removed) to ~/.config/icedtea-web/.

and to ~/.cache/icedtea-web/.

-- 

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
-- U.S. Const. Amendment IV

Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0  809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 11 17:37:01 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 16:37:01 +0100
Subject: [Users] Disappearing sent mail
In-Reply-To: <20150611160641.4ec3582e@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20150610174130.31251440@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150611130331.230f16f9@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150611132106.282f0918@kujata>
 <20150611140919.41970411@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150611141341.0d522c21@kujata>
 <20150611143415.5f44c668@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20150611155622.6b1efc36@kujata>
 <20150611160641.4ec3582e@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20150611163701.5949582e@kujata>

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 16:06:41 +0100
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote: 

> Oh right then, I thought I'd pasted the whole thing but it doesn't
> matter,  just setting the bcc to myself works so that'll do. Thank
> you for your patience in looking at this.

I can see that it doesn't matter from your point of view, but my
point of view is different. But, anyway, if you don't want to pursue
this then we'll take it no further.

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 12 15:26:53 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 13:26:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3434] IMAP memory error
In-Reply-To: <bug-3434-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3434-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3434-595-1wjaphRom3@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3434

--- Comment #7 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Hm, it looks like Claws Mail does not produce debug output at necessary places
to catch this one. Sorry.

Do you have the capability to run claws-mail via the gdb debugger? It would
help if you could set a breakpoint on function "imap_handle_error", and get a
backtrace when it is reached.

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.


From rostedt at goodmis.org  Sat Jun 13 03:46:46 2015
From: rostedt at goodmis.org (Steven Rostedt)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 21:46:46 -0400
Subject: [Users] OT:  BUG with update marking all email as "read"
In-Reply-To: <20150509125944.538a26a1@sepulchrave.remarqs>
References: <20141201133551.0a36768e@gandalf.local.home>
 <20141201190853.04e66c53@thewildbeast>
 <20141202102327.2327730d@gandalf.local.home>
 <20141202175959.7d0f0fb1@archlinux>
 <20150508230825.2ef685a0@grimm.local.home>
 <20150509125944.538a26a1@sepulchrave.remarqs>
Message-ID: <20150612214646.0067c573@gandalf.local.home>

On Sat, 9 May 2015 12:59:44 -0500
»Q« <boxcars at gmx.net> wrote:

> IOW, all descendants of any grimm post will have the string
> "grimm.local.home" in their References headers.
> 
> So a rule can look for that string in the References header;  when
> there's a match it can put a copy where you will see it, make it a
> funny color, and/or call an external program to play a loud "You've got
> Claws list mail!"
> 
> Looks like maybe you would also need the rule to match
> "gandalf.local.home" -- I'm guessing that's produced by a different
> machine of yours.  (Not important, but there is something weird in your
> own headers that makes it look as though you were replying to a gandalf
> post when you were really replying to a Ralf (archlinux) post.  I don't
> need it confirmed, but I guess you redirected a mail from one machine
> to another before replying to it.)

Actually, my setup may be part of the issue claws is having. I run
dovecot on my main server that pulls my emails from various ISPs that
I have via fetchmail. Then I connect to dovecot via imap from my
workstations or laptops with claws-mail or evolution, although
I've pretty much stopped using evolution on these (gandalf is a work
station, grimm is one of my laptops). I'm currently writing
on gandalf. I could also be working on pippen, bilbo, or saruman (yes,
I'm a LoTR fan). I could also hook to my server with any of my android
devices. Note, only claws-mail clears my read emails. No other email
client has this issue. Thus, it is specific to claws-mail.

I have over a hundred email folders, which half of them are subscribed
to lists. I noticed that most of those folders have (!) next to them :-)

Thus, again, this is the first time I seen these emails.

> 
> Please don't CC me.  ;)

This time I didn't.

-- Steve


From rostedt at goodmis.org  Sat Jun 13 04:05:30 2015
From: rostedt at goodmis.org (Steven Rostedt)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 22:05:30 -0400
Subject: [Users] OT:  BUG with update marking all email as "read"
In-Reply-To: <20150509064334.7e979578@kujata.lan>
References: <20141201133551.0a36768e@gandalf.local.home>
 <20141201190853.04e66c53@thewildbeast>
 <20141202102327.2327730d@gandalf.local.home>
 <20141202175959.7d0f0fb1@archlinux>
 <20150508230825.2ef685a0@grimm.local.home>
 <20150509064334.7e979578@kujata.lan>
Message-ID: <20150612220530.3554ae72@gandalf.local.home>

On Sat, 9 May 2015 06:43:34 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 8 May 2015 23:08:25 -0400
> Steven Rostedt <rostedt at goodmis.org> wrote: 
> 
> > Heh, I keep hitting the bug I reported, and came back to my claws
> > email folder to read if anything new was found. This is the first I
> > seen this email (because I wasn't Cc'd ;-)
> 
> It still seems to me that it is something particular to your set-up,
> something in particular in the way you or your system handles mail.
> Since this happens to one other person then maybe something can be
> found that is particular to you two and no-one else.
> 
> Anyway, since this thread began last December, maybe you should again
> summarise your problem, preferably with more information than before.
> 

I'll explain the issue in full detail again. I may have even more
information. The reason I came back to this topic is because it just
happened again :-(


Here's my setup.

My main server does fetchmail from various ISPs that my email goes to,
and stores them locally in files (and sometimes directories) in my
~/mail directory, or in /var/mail/rostedt (my main INBOX). Email is
filtered via procmail.

I also run dovecot as an imap server that I connect all my clients to.
I connect with claws-mail, evolution, alpine, and for my android
devices, k-9 or with the default mail client app. Claws-mail is the
*only* client that has this problem.

The issue occurs when claws syncs my INBOX, and I got new mail. It
doesn't always happen, just sometimes. But when it happens, it's always
when there's new mail.

Here's the problem: When the sync happens (and sometimes this happens
when I switch folders, and going back to my INBOX and the INBOX syncs),
while it's syncing the "New" message count changes to the number of new
messages that has arrived, and the "Unread" count goes to zero,
although the emails visible in the message list still show the emails
as bold (unread). This is when I say "crap!". Because when the sync is
finished, all those unread emails, become unbold and they are no longer
considered unread. If I connect with another client, those emails are
unread there too, thus, claws-mail told the server to mark all mail as
read (except the ones that just came in)!

As I like to keep emails that I plan on getting back to later as
unread, this breaks my workflow, because now I have over a hundred
emails I still need to get to, cleared. Not knowing which of the 3000
emails I need to read.

Note, I've been running claws-mail with --debug too, but when I do
that, the issue never happens! I've been thinking that a work around is
to just run with --debug, but I don't need the logging constantly going
off.

Right now my workaround is to pull last nights backup
of /var/mail/rostedt and do a diff. It at least puts back the unread
messages from days before. Unfortunately, this time it happened at the
end of the day, and I have to scan todays messages again to see what I
want to set back to unread.

Please Cc me, because I'll probably forget about this thread again
until the next time it happens.

-- Steve


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jun 13 09:32:55 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 08:32:55 +0100
Subject: [Users] OT:  BUG with update marking all email as "read"
In-Reply-To: <20150612214646.0067c573@gandalf.local.home>
References: <20141201133551.0a36768e@gandalf.local.home>
 <20141201190853.04e66c53@thewildbeast>
 <20141202102327.2327730d@gandalf.local.home>
 <20141202175959.7d0f0fb1@archlinux>
 <20150508230825.2ef685a0@grimm.local.home>
 <20150509125944.538a26a1@sepulchrave.remarqs>
 <20150612214646.0067c573@gandalf.local.home>
Message-ID: <20150613083255.6a56cb9c@kujata>

On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 21:46:46 -0400
Steven Rostedt <rostedt at goodmis.org> wrote: 

> I have over a hundred email folders, which half of them are
> subscribed to lists. I noticed that most of those folders have (!)
> next to them :-)

The exclamation mark indicates that you have unread replies to marked
mails.

with regards

Paul


From anton92 at gmx.ru  Sat Jun 13 21:18:43 2015
From: anton92 at gmx.ru (anton92 at gmx.ru)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 21:18:43 +0200
Subject: [Users] Why do some users prefer Sylpheed over Claws Mail ?!?
Message-ID: <trinity-b925b67c-24d0-4910-895d-99acc16e4f91-1434223123287@3capp-mailcom-bs06>

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From rsv869 at runbox.com  Sat Jun 13 22:36:05 2015
From: rsv869 at runbox.com (Reid Vail)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 16:36:05 -0400
Subject: [Users] Why do some users prefer Sylpheed over Claws Mail ?!?
In-Reply-To: <trinity-b925b67c-24d0-4910-895d-99acc16e4f91-1434223123287@3capp-mailcom-bs06>
References: <trinity-b925b67c-24d0-4910-895d-99acc16e4f91-1434223123287@3capp-mailcom-bs06>
Message-ID: <20150613163605.51acb72d@runbox.com>

I used Sylpheed for several years and like it very much until I decided it start
using imap and Sylpheed started hanging. And in a related and more important
different (to me) the published Sylpheed forum community was, to me, bizarre and
non-responsive. 

As a package, it's much more limited in scope and features, but is a clean,
nice-looking package, and generally solid. Try it.   

Reid

On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 21:18:43 +0200
anton92 at gmx.ru wrote:

> I was very surprised to discover that Sylpheed (instead of CM) was chosen by the Fedora distro.
>  
> From what I understand CM is much better than Sylpheed, because it has many plugins and a more vibrant community, so I really don't see why Sylpheed could be preferred over CM.
> I was not able to find much info on the internet about the difference between the two programs. All one finds is that CM was forked from Sylpheed and is now managed by a community.
>  
> Could you please provide some info about the differences?
>  
> Above all, is there some area where Sylpheed is actually better than CM? Any particularly feature? Is Sylpheed also mono-threaded like CM?
>  
> Cheers
>  
> Anton
>  
>  







From emilyj at hiwaay.net  Sat Jun 13 22:41:52 2015
From: emilyj at hiwaay.net (Emily Jackson)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 15:41:52 -0500
Subject: [Users] Why do some users prefer Sylpheed over Claws Mail ?!?
In-Reply-To: <20150613163605.51acb72d@runbox.com>
References: <trinity-b925b67c-24d0-4910-895d-99acc16e4f91-1434223123287@3capp-mailcom-bs06>
 <20150613163605.51acb72d@runbox.com>
Message-ID: <20150613154152.31bae70cc50a99ac02658a58@hiwaay.net>

On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 16:36:05 -0400
Reid Vail <rsv869 at runbox.com> wrote:

> I used Sylpheed for several years and like it very much until I decided it start
> using imap and Sylpheed started hanging.

I have tried the Windows versions of Sylpheed and Claws, and I had trouble with *Claws* hanging and choking on messages. Sylpheed works better for me (although the Windows port doesn´t have a spell checker.) Of course, YMMV.

Emily

-- 
Emily Jackson <emilyj at hiwaay.net>


From anton92 at gmx.ru  Sun Jun 14 04:38:38 2015
From: anton92 at gmx.ru (anton92 at gmx.ru)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 04:38:38 +0200
Subject: [Users] Why would one prefer Sylpheed over Claws Mail ??
Message-ID: <trinity-14c4417f-9e30-4603-8f70-bb27e31e92c1-1434249518356@3capp-mailcom-bs12>

I apologize for sending the previous email in the HTML format. I did not even realize it.
Anyway, here below is the original text which got scrubbed by the bot. Thanks to those who have already answered.

----------------------------------

I was very surprised to discover that Sylpheed (instead of CM) was chosen by the Fedora distro.

>From what I understand CM is much better than Sylpheed, because it has many plugins and a more vibrant community, so I really don't see why Sylpheed could be preferred over CM.
I was not able to find much info on the internet about the difference between the two programs. All one finds is that CM was forked from Sylpheed and is now managed by a community.

Could you please provide some info about the differences?

Above all, is there some area where Sylpheed is actually better than CM? Any particularly feature? 
Is Sylpheed also mono-threaded like CM?

Cheers

Anton


From doark at mail.com  Sun Jun 14 07:28:12 2015
From: doark at mail.com (David Niklas)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 01:28:12 -0400
Subject: [Users] Newbie how to save plain text
Message-ID: <20150614012812.18ac3f83@a_seriously_long_hostname>

Hello, I'm looking for a way to hit save on a message and get plain
text as a result of the operation, but so far I've only gotten
uuencoded | base64 ? text.

Thanks, David


From bugreporter at abwesend.de  Sun Jun 14 07:44:24 2015
From: bugreporter at abwesend.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 07:44:24 +0200
Subject: [Users] Why would one prefer Sylpheed over Claws Mail ??
In-Reply-To: <trinity-14c4417f-9e30-4603-8f70-bb27e31e92c1-1434249518356@3capp-mailcom-bs12>
References: <trinity-14c4417f-9e30-4603-8f70-bb27e31e92c1-1434249518356@3capp-mailcom-bs12>
Message-ID: <20150614074424.44f139e2@noname>

On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 04:38:38 +0200, anton92 at gmx.ru wrote:

> I was very surprised to discover that Sylpheed (instead of CM) was chosen by the Fedora distro.
>

There is no such thing as "the Fedora distro". The Fedora Project releases
several products and so-called "spins",

  https://spins.fedoraproject.org/

and what default applications are chosen for the various Live media may
be simply a matter of trimming down the size of those media.

Afterall, Claws Mail is available in Fedora's package repositories, which
is available to all products/spins.

> From what I understand CM is much better than Sylpheed, because it has many plugins and a more vibrant community, so I really don't see why Sylpheed could be preferred over CM.
>

It may be an idea to ask the main people behind the spin you refer to.
Sylpheed is considered more light-weight than Claws Mail. It could also be
that one of the person's involved uses Sylpheed for one reason or another.

> I was not able to find much info on the internet about the difference between the two programs. All one finds is that CM was forked from Sylpheed and is now managed by a community.
> 

Originally, it had been the separate development version of Sylpheed
called "Sylpheed-claws", but has moved on faster than Sylpheed inherited
new features, new plugins, code rewrites. Eventually it's not been accurate
anymore to pretend a close relationship. Hence the rename.


From edodd55 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 14 07:49:58 2015
From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:49:58 +1000
Subject: [Users] How do I?
Message-ID: <20150614154958.4f97c5f4.edodd55@gmail.com>

Abort Claws fetching mail when the internet connection drops??
It takes a long time for 4 times the timeout, during which time Claws
valiantly tries to reach 4 off-site mail servers, and I can't browse my
email at all until it gives up.
Subsequent tries on the same internet outage don't take as long.

Could someone tell me how I can abort the "Get Mail" sequence?

Liz


From petter at synth.no  Sun Jun 14 07:58:14 2015
From: petter at synth.no (Petter Adsen)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 07:58:14 +0200
Subject: [Users] Newbie how to save plain text
In-Reply-To: <20150614012812.18ac3f83@a_seriously_long_hostname>
References: <20150614012812.18ac3f83@a_seriously_long_hostname>
Message-ID: <20150614075814.3e07e786@monster>

On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 01:28:12 -0400
David Niklas <doark at mail.com> wrote:

> Hello, I'm looking for a way to hit save on a message and get plain
> text as a result of the operation, but so far I've only gotten
> uuencoded | base64 ? text.

"File" -> "Export selected to mbox file..."

You will probably need the mbox plugin loaded to do this.
("Configuration" -> "Plugins")

Petter

-- 
"I'm ionized"
"Are you sure?"
"I'm positive."
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From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Jun 14 10:57:21 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 10:57:21 +0200
Subject: [Users] Newbie how to save plain text
In-Reply-To: <20150614075814.3e07e786@monster>
References: <20150614012812.18ac3f83@a_seriously_long_hostname>
 <20150614075814.3e07e786@monster>
Message-ID: <20150614105721.514137da@penny>

On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 07:58:14 +0200
Petter Adsen <petter at synth.no> wrote:

> You will probably need the mbox plugin loaded to do this.
> ("Configuration" -> "Plugins")

Nope, mbox plugin is not needed for this, it is a core function. :)

Regards,
-- 
Andrej
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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sun Jun 14 11:20:59 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 11:20:59 +0200
Subject: [Users] Newbie how to save plain text
In-Reply-To: <20150614105721.514137da@penny>
References: <20150614012812.18ac3f83@a_seriously_long_hostname>
 <20150614075814.3e07e786@monster> <20150614105721.514137da@penny>
Message-ID: <20150614112059.12285d70@archlinux>

On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 10:57:21 +0200, Andrej Kacian wrote:
>On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 07:58:14 +0200
>Petter Adsen <petter at synth.no> wrote:
>
>> You will probably need the mbox plugin loaded to do this.
>> ("Configuration" -> "Plugins")
>
>Nope, mbox plugin is not needed for this, it is a core function. :)

I use the mbox export option without the plugin very often.

Are you sure that decoding base64 works without plugin?

https://www.base64encode.org/


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 14 11:40:33 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 10:40:33 +0100
Subject: [Users] How do I?
In-Reply-To: <20150614154958.4f97c5f4.edodd55@gmail.com>
References: <20150614154958.4f97c5f4.edodd55@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150614104033.549ed660@kujata>

On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:49:58 +1000
Liz <edodd55 at gmail.com> wrote: 

> Abort Claws fetching mail when the internet connection drops??
> It takes a long time for 4 times the timeout, during which time
> Claws valiantly tries to reach 4 off-site mail servers, and I can't
> browse my email at all until it gives up.
> Subsequent tries on the same internet outage don't take as long.

For me it's more or less instant.

> Could someone tell me how I can abort the "Get Mail" sequence?

/Message/Receive/Cancel receiving

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 14 12:12:23 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 11:12:23 +0100
Subject: [Users] Newbie how to save plain text
In-Reply-To: <20150614012812.18ac3f83@a_seriously_long_hostname>
References: <20150614012812.18ac3f83@a_seriously_long_hostname>
Message-ID: <20150614111223.11f7ac79@kujata>

Hi David,

On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 01:28:12 -0400
David Niklas <doark at mail.com> wrote: 

> Hello, I'm looking for a way to hit save on a message and get plain
> text as a result of the operation, but so far I've only gotten
> uuencoded | base64 ? text.

The simplest way, if you want to save the text from the message part
only is to right-click its mime icon (to the right of the message)
and choose 'save as'.

If you want to save some or all of the headers (From, Date, Subject,
etc) along with the decoded base64 text body, you can do that with
Actions.

Create an Action with Menu Name 'Save as...' and use this command:

echo "%s" > %u

To use this you need to select the text that you want to be saved,
(represented by %s in the command), run the Action,
(Tools/Actions/Save as...). A dialogue will appear in which you
write the full path, (e.g. /home/user/savedMails/my_saved_mail).
(The %u is what prompts for this path via a dialogue.)

No need for any MBOXing just to save a message! 

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 14 12:45:35 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 11:45:35 +0100
Subject: [Users] Why do some users prefer Sylpheed over Claws Mail ?!?
In-Reply-To: <trinity-b925b67c-24d0-4910-895d-99acc16e4f91-1434223123287@3capp-mailcom-bs06>
References: <trinity-b925b67c-24d0-4910-895d-99acc16e4f91-1434223123287@3capp-mailcom-bs06>
Message-ID: <20150614114535.5e8c66c6@kujata>

On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 21:18:43 +0200
anton92 at gmx.ru wrote: 

> I was very surprised to discover that Sylpheed (instead of CM) was
> chosen by the Fedora distro.

It's impossible to answer your question in the subject by anyone who
hasn't made that choice, and since this is the Claws Mail list then
one can guess that everyone here prefers Claws Mail. Try asking on
the Sylpheed mailing list.

> From what I understand CM is much better than Sylpheed, because it
> has many plugins and a more vibrant community, so I really don't
> see why Sylpheed could be preferred over CM. 

AFAIK, there is a Japanese community around Sylpheed. Whether it's
vibrant or not I cannot say.

> I was not able to find
> much info on the internet about the difference between the two
> programs. All one finds is that CM was forked from Sylpheed and is
> now managed by a community.

To say CM is managed by a community is a slight stretch. It is
managed by a small team of people, some of which have been there
since before sylpheed-claws days, some others not quite so long.

> Could you please provide some info
> about the differences?

It's been a long time since I paid any attention to what is happening
in Sylpheed development, but I can list a few things without having to
do investigation.

IMAP and NNTP are completely different in Claws.
The cache system is completely different in Claws.
The folder management is completely different in Claws.
Filtering is completely different in Claws.
GnuPG messages are handled completely differently in Claws.

plus lots of other stuff.

I would say that CM has easily in excess of 50% new, completely
rewritten code.

CM is also licensed under GPLv3 whereas Sylpheed (last time I looked)
iirc is LGPLv2.

Sylpheed's LGPLv2 is probably there to facilitate the development of
Sylpheed Pro, which is the proprietary version of Sylpheed, which is
for sale and is not offered for free.

> Above all, is there some area where Sylpheed
> is actually better than CM? Any particularly feature? 

I'm not aware of any.

> Is Sylpheed
> also mono-threaded like CM?

Neither are mono-threaded, they're are just not completely
multi-threaded. And, afaik, they both share this trait.

Originally there was Sylpheed, back in c. 2001 it was perhaps the
only GUI MUA for linux that offered multiple accounts. It was basic,
but the best there was. Because a few people wanted to help make
Sylpheed better, a lot of patches were being sent. Then, to handle
the number of patches, The Sylpheed Patch Page was created - quite
basic in today's terms, but quite innovative in those days. After
some time we needed some way to effectively test all the patches,
without having to spend a lot of time applying patches to Sylpheed.
So Sylpheed-Claws was created as the development version of Sylpheed.
This worked quite well for some time, when features were considered
stable in Sylpheed-Claws, Hiroyuki would integrate them into
Sylpheed -  features such as Actions, Templates, Colour labels,
address book, and so on, all originated in Sylpheed-Claws.

Unfortunately, after a while features - good, stable features -
stopped being integrated in Sylpheed. After several months with
trying to find out the reason for this, but failing to get a
response, it was decided that we should fork and create Claws Mail.
Our hand was forced, and we we weren't ready to give up.

Anyway, enough of this already, I think.

with regards

Paul


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sun Jun 14 12:57:30 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 12:57:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] Newbie how to save plain text
In-Reply-To: <20150614112059.12285d70@archlinux>
References: <20150614012812.18ac3f83@a_seriously_long_hostname>
 <20150614075814.3e07e786@monster> <20150614105721.514137da@penny>
 <20150614112059.12285d70@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20150614125730.20aa54fa@archlinux>

On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 11:20:59 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 10:57:21 +0200, Andrej Kacian wrote:
>>On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 07:58:14 +0200
>>Petter Adsen <petter at synth.no> wrote:
>>
>>> You will probably need the mbox plugin loaded to do this.
>>> ("Configuration" -> "Plugins")
>>
>>Nope, mbox plugin is not needed for this, it is a core function. :)
>
>I use the mbox export option without the plugin very often.
>
>Are you sure that decoding base64 works without plugin?
>
>https://www.base64encode.org/

I had some time now for a test. When I export a

  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

mail, it's not decoded. So I did remember correctly.

version 3.11.1-124-gfbd6608

Regards,
Ralf


From edodd55 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 14 13:14:00 2015
From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 21:14:00 +1000
Subject: [Users] How do I?
In-Reply-To: <20150614104033.549ed660@kujata>
References: <20150614154958.4f97c5f4.edodd55@gmail.com>
 <20150614104033.549ed660@kujata>
Message-ID: <20150614211400.688997c2.edodd55@gmail.com>

On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 10:40:33 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:49:58 +1000
> Liz <edodd55 at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> > Abort Claws fetching mail when the internet connection drops??
> > It takes a long time for 4 times the timeout, during which time
> > Claws valiantly tries to reach 4 off-site mail servers, and I can't
> > browse my email at all until it gives up.
> > Subsequent tries on the same internet outage don't take as long.
> 
> For me it's more or less instant.
> 
> > Could someone tell me how I can abort the "Get Mail" sequence?
> 
> /Message/Receive/Cancel receiving
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul

Thanks, Paul.


From harro at altern.org  Sun Jun 14 16:06:12 2015
From: harro at altern.org (Harro)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 16:06:12 +0200
Subject: [Users] Users Digest, Vol 46, Issue 19
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1609.1434272260.6434.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
References: <mailman.1609.1434272260.6434.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
Message-ID: <20150614160612.00003ccc@altern.org>

Hi Liz,

I have the same question, since I also cannot 'regain control' of my Claws focus (Windows port, v3.10.1) until after a significant time (a minute at least) after selecting the 'work offline' button.  I have 3 IMAP accounts that are polled, perhaps that is to blame for the delay.

On a similar note, regularly my Claws appears to redownload all messages in the inbox (or at least is doing a fetch, according to the logs), which I cannot interrupt with the "Stop all" button.  The only way to regain focus (access to my emails) is to switch Claws to offline mode, then wait for the three "can I go online to check email - yes/no"  pop-up messages.  

I note that going offline (in the Windows version, at least) does not actually make Claws work offline.  According to the 'check for new email interval' Claws keeps trying to go back online and pushes pop-up messages asking for permission.  This does not make sense to me - "work offline" should mean stay offline.  It is not selected for nothing (aside for as a hack to interrupt endless IMAP syncs). 

If in a future version (or port, if this is a specific Windows port issue), the "stop all" button could actually work as a kill-switch for the open IMAP connections and/or the option "work offline" can make Claws stop trying to connect, that would be an excellent upgrade (and seemignly a more logical application of those features).

Nevertheless, thank you for the great work!

Harro



On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 10:57:40 +0200
users-request at lists.claws-mail.org wrote:

> From: Liz <edodd55 at gmail.com>
> To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
> Subject: [Users] How do I?
> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:49:58 +1000
> 
> Abort Claws fetching mail when the internet connection drops??
> It takes a long time for 4 times the timeout, during which time Claws
> valiantly tries to reach 4 off-site mail servers, and I can't browse
> my email at all until it gives up.
> Subsequent tries on the same internet outage don't take as long.
> 
> Could someone tell me how I can abort the "Get Mail" sequence?
> 
> Liz
> 



-- 


From anton92 at gmx.ru  Sun Jun 14 17:26:37 2015
From: anton92 at gmx.ru (anton92 at gmx.ru)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:26:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] Why do some users prefer Sylpheed over Claws Mail ?!?
In-Reply-To: <20150614114535.5e8c66c6@kujata>
References: <trinity-b925b67c-24d0-4910-895d-99acc16e4f91-1434223123287@3capp-mailcom-bs06>
 <20150614114535.5e8c66c6@kujata>
Message-ID: <20150614152637.774985ee@MyLaptop>

Thanks a lot, Paul, for you very informative post.


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Mon Jun 15 00:26:32 2015
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 23:26:32 +0100
Subject: [Users] Why do some users prefer Sylpheed over Claws Mail ?!?
In-Reply-To: <trinity-b925b67c-24d0-4910-895d-99acc16e4f91-1434223123287@3capp-mailcom-bs06>
References: <trinity-b925b67c-24d0-4910-895d-99acc16e4f91-1434223123287@3capp-mailcom-bs06>
Message-ID: <20150614232632.39065d7c@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>

On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 21:18:43 +0200
anton92 at gmx.ru wrote:

> I was very surprised to discover that Sylpheed (instead of CM) was chosen by the Fedora distro.

Chosen? How?

Sylpheed and CM are both packages that are available in the Fedora
repos, you can install whichever you wish, or both!

-- 

Brian Morrison

                "I am not young enough to know everything"
                                                          Oscar Wilde


From doark at mail.com  Mon Jun 15 03:42:40 2015
From: doark at mail.com (Frank Ernest)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 21:42:40 -0400
Subject: [Users] Newbie how to save plain text
Message-ID: <20150614214240.5f2bdb10@a_seriously_long_hostname>

> echo "%s" > %u
> 
> To use this you need to select the text that you want to be saved,
> (represented by %s in the command), run the Action,
> (Tools/Actions/Save as...). A dialogue will appear in which you
> write the full path, (e.g. /home/user/savedMails/my_saved_mail).
> (The %u is what prompts for this path via a dialogue.)

Ok, but I wanted the whole thing headers and all.
Also, how do I get this action into a menu or keybinding?

Thanks, David



From doark at mail.com  Mon Jun 15 03:47:01 2015
From: doark at mail.com (David Niklas)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 21:47:01 -0400
Subject: [Users] Claws mail makes most of digest grey
Message-ID: <20150614214701.65406ec5@a_seriously_long_hostname>

> I have tried the Windows versions of Sylpheed and Claws, and I had
> trouble with *Claws* hanging and choking on messages. Sylpheed works
> better for me (although the Windows port doesn?t have a spell
> checker.)
> Of course, YMMV.
> 
> Emily
> 
> -- 
> Emily Jackson <emilyj at hiwaay.net>
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4

As I've been reading several digests from various mailing lists I've
noticed that at certain points the test is rendered grey, for example,
in the above quote, the -- and onwards are rendered grey.
This is probably a syntax highlighting issue, how can I change this?

Thanks, David



From doark at mail.com  Mon Jun 15 03:55:39 2015
From: doark at mail.com (David Niklas)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 21:55:39 -0400
Subject: [Users] What type are regexes?
Message-ID: <20150614215539.61563337@a_seriously_long_hostname>

Hello, I wanted to know what type of regex claws-mail is using, I can't
seem to figure it out and I don't want to try trial and error.

Thanks, David


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Mon Jun 15 04:15:51 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 04:15:51 +0200
Subject: [Users] Newbie how to save plain text
In-Reply-To: <20150614214240.5f2bdb10@a_seriously_long_hostname>
References: <20150614214240.5f2bdb10@a_seriously_long_hostname>
Message-ID: <20150615041551.6a10415c@archlinux>

On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 21:42:40 -0400, Frank Ernest wrote:
>> echo "%s" > %u
>> 
>> To use this you need to select the text that you want to be saved,
>> (represented by %s in the command), run the Action,
>> (Tools/Actions/Save as...). A dialogue will appear in which you
>> write the full path, (e.g. /home/user/savedMails/my_saved_mail).
>> (The %u is what prompts for this path via a dialogue.)
>
>Ok, but I wanted the whole thing headers and all.
>Also, how do I get this action into a menu or keybinding?

Likely you can select the text with all headers by Ctrl+H , followed by
Ctrl+A continue with the Action and then Ctrl+H again :D. If it has to
be done like that, than it's an odd workarond. Did you test if the
plugin and mbox export does the job?


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Mon Jun 15 04:19:40 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 04:19:40 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws mail makes most of digest grey
In-Reply-To: <20150614214701.65406ec5@a_seriously_long_hostname>
References: <20150614214701.65406ec5@a_seriously_long_hostname>
Message-ID: <20150615041940.3c59fe9c@archlinux>

On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 21:47:01 -0400, David Niklas wrote:
>As I've been reading several digests from various mailing lists I've
>noticed that at certain points the test is rendered grey, for example,
>in the above quote, the -- and onwards are rendered grey.
>This is probably a syntax highlighting issue, how can I change this?

Is there a difference if you're receiving MIME or Plain Text Digest?
MIME Digest http://www.list.org/mailman-member/node28.html


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Mon Jun 15 09:01:12 2015
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:01:12 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws mail makes most of digest grey
In-Reply-To: <20150614214701.65406ec5@a_seriously_long_hostname>
References: <20150614214701.65406ec5@a_seriously_long_hostname>
Message-ID: <20150615080112.7898d8af@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 21:47:01 -0400
David Niklas <doark at mail.com> wrote:

Hello David,

>in the above quote, the -- and onwards are rendered grey.
>This is probably a syntax highlighting issue, how can I change this?

It's how valid signatures are rendered with your current colour scheme.
Changing it can be done in prefs.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
We don't give a damn
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From bugreporter at abwesend.de  Mon Jun 15 10:07:03 2015
From: bugreporter at abwesend.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:07:03 +0200
Subject: [Users] Why do some users prefer Sylpheed over Claws Mail ?!?
In-Reply-To: <20150614232632.39065d7c@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <trinity-b925b67c-24d0-4910-895d-99acc16e4f91-1434223123287@3capp-mailcom-bs06>
 <20150614232632.39065d7c@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20150615100703.421a1e33@noname>

On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 23:26:32 +0100, Brian Morrison wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 21:18:43 +0200
> anton92 at gmx.ru wrote:
> 
> > I was very surprised to discover that Sylpheed (instead of CM) was chosen by the Fedora distro.
> 
> Chosen? How?

Probably been "chosen" as the included mail program for the LXDE spin:
http://spins.fedoraproject.org/en/lxde/

> Sylpheed and CM are both packages that are available in the Fedora
> repos, you can install whichever you wish, or both!

Though, due to inactivity by the current package maintainer(s), Sylpheed
is not available/shown inside GNOME Software Center. An Appdata file in
the package is missing.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun 15 10:37:33 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 09:37:33 +0100
Subject: [Users] Newbie how to save plain text
In-Reply-To: <20150614214240.5f2bdb10@a_seriously_long_hostname>
References: <20150614214240.5f2bdb10@a_seriously_long_hostname>
Message-ID: <20150615093733.6771b087@kujata>

On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 21:42:40 -0400
Frank Ernest <doark at mail.com> wrote: 

> Ok, but I wanted the whole thing headers and all.

Use Ctrl+H to show all headers.

> Also, how do I get this action into a menu or keybinding?

It's already in a menu from the moment you created the
Action: /Tools/Actions/...

Add a keybinding in the standard way.

http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Actions
http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Interface#How_can_I_change_the_key-bindings_.28hot-keys.29_in_Claws_Mail.3F

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun 15 10:40:52 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 09:40:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] Newbie how to save plain text
In-Reply-To: <20150615041551.6a10415c@archlinux>
References: <20150614214240.5f2bdb10@a_seriously_long_hostname>
 <20150615041551.6a10415c@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20150615094052.351568aa@kujata>

On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 04:15:51 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 

> If it has to
> be done like that, than it's an odd workarond. Did you test if the
> plugin and mbox export does the job?

Suggesting MBOX is even odder, imo.

All messages are already saved as text, you even have a tool which
will display them decoded. It's an unusual request.

with regards

Paul


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun 15 10:51:26 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 09:51:26 +0100
Subject: [Users] What type are regexes?
In-Reply-To: <20150614215539.61563337@a_seriously_long_hostname>
References: <20150614215539.61563337@a_seriously_long_hostname>
Message-ID: <20150615095126.72d50fa9@kujata>

On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 21:55:39 -0400
David Niklas <doark at mail.com> wrote: 

> Hello, I wanted to know what type of regex claws-mail is using, I
> can't seem to figure it out and I don't want to try trial and error.

Standard GNU C library regexp.

with regards

Paul


From m8il1ists at gmail.com  Mon Jun 15 15:10:34 2015
From: m8il1ists at gmail.com (Kevin Chadwick)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:10:34 +0100
Subject: [Users] Why do some users prefer Sylpheed over Claws Mail ?!?
In-Reply-To: <20150613154152.31bae70cc50a99ac02658a58@hiwaay.net>
References: <trinity-b925b67c-24d0-4910-895d-99acc16e4f91-1434223123287@3capp-mailcom-bs06>
 <20150613163605.51acb72d@runbox.com>
 <20150613154152.31bae70cc50a99ac02658a58@hiwaay.net>
Message-ID: <20150615141034.5f9604cd@expedite.oesys.co>

On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 15:41:52 -0500
Emily Jackson wrote:

> > I used Sylpheed for several years and like it very much until I decided it start
> > using imap and Sylpheed started hanging.  
> 
> I have tried the Windows versions of Sylpheed and Claws, and I had trouble with *Claws* hanging and choking on messages. Sylpheed works better for me 

I found a couple of bugs in claws that I didn't have time to properly
debug (not at all game stoppers, parsing bug on search when another
search works, email parse crash) so I decided as sylpheed didn't show
the bug then I might try it out again and see; I originally switched to
claws because I couldn't get gpg to work with sylpheed properly. I
couldn't though because sylpheed wouldn't read my resolv.conf which has
ipv4 only options and a tcp only option currently disabled, sylpheed
seems to use it's own dns resolver which it failed to parse, bad design?

p.s. Why are you using fedora from RedHat that couldn't design a piece
of paper without adding a plastic covering that is bad for the
environment and means pens can be rubbed off, but pencils don't work!


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun 15 14:41:29 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:41:29 +0100
Subject: [Users] Why do some users prefer Sylpheed over Claws Mail ?!?
In-Reply-To: <20150615141034.5f9604cd@expedite.oesys.co>
References: <trinity-b925b67c-24d0-4910-895d-99acc16e4f91-1434223123287@3capp-mailcom-bs06>
 <20150613163605.51acb72d@runbox.com>
 <20150613154152.31bae70cc50a99ac02658a58@hiwaay.net>
 <20150615141034.5f9604cd@expedite.oesys.co>
Message-ID: <20150615134129.4cbfa304@kujata>

On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:10:34 +0100
Kevin Chadwick <m8il1ists at gmail.com> wrote: 

> parsing bug on search when another
> search works, 

Perhaps you could tell us the search string that fails?

> email parse crash

An html message? Crash in webkit or fancy plugin?

with regards

Paul


From anton92 at gmx.ru  Tue Jun 16 11:29:52 2015
From: anton92 at gmx.ru (anton92 at gmx.ru)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 09:29:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] Duplicate incoming message into two different folders
Message-ID: <20150616092952.47945eac@MyLaptop>

Hi,
I am running the latest Claws Mail on Linux.
I have just noticed that my messages get duplicated, and the second
copy is placed into an unrelated folder. That is, each message is
placed in its folder and in another one too.
I cannot understand the reason for this, since I am not using any
filters.
Any ideas?

Thanks

Anton


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun 16 12:02:41 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 11:02:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] Duplicate incoming message into two different folders
In-Reply-To: <20150616092952.47945eac@MyLaptop>
References: <20150616092952.47945eac@MyLaptop>
Message-ID: <20150616110241.7eeda2dd@kujata>

On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 09:29:52 +0000
anton92 at gmx.ru wrote: 

> I am running the latest Claws Mail on Linux.
> I have just noticed that my messages get duplicated, and the second
> copy is placed into an unrelated folder. That is, each message is
> placed in its folder and in another one too.
> I cannot understand the reason for this, since I am not using any
> filters.
> Any ideas?

Is this IMAP?
Is the 'other folder' the same folder for every message?
If yes, then it looks like a server side rule.

with regards

Paul


From tmp.2014 at outlook.com  Tue Jun 16 12:04:32 2015
From: tmp.2014 at outlook.com (Ernst Geissler)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 10:04:32 +0000
Subject: [Users] Duplicate incoming message into two different folders
In-Reply-To: <20150616110241.7eeda2dd@kujata>
References: <20150616092952.47945eac@MyLaptop> <20150616110241.7eeda2dd@kujata>
Message-ID: <BLU436-SMTP119FEF71B519F3613F38D759CA70@phx.gbl>

On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 11:02:41 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> Is this IMAP?
> Is the 'other folder' the same folder for every message?
> If yes, then it looks like a server side rule.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul

No, it's not IMAP, it's POP3.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun 16 12:08:34 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 11:08:34 +0100
Subject: [Users] Duplicate incoming message into two different folders
In-Reply-To: <BLU436-SMTP119FEF71B519F3613F38D759CA70@phx.gbl>
References: <20150616092952.47945eac@MyLaptop> <20150616110241.7eeda2dd@kujata>
 <BLU436-SMTP119FEF71B519F3613F38D759CA70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20150616110834.2a51d14f@kujata>

On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 10:04:32 +0000
Ernst Geissler <tmp.2014 at outlook.com> wrote: 

> No, it's not IMAP, it's POP3.

I assume that I'm talking to the same person :)

This can only happen with filtering or processing rules. (Unless you
also have another programme that is depositing msgs in your folders.)

with regards

Paul


From anton92 at gmx.ru  Tue Jun 16 15:52:07 2015
From: anton92 at gmx.ru (anton92 at gmx.ru)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 13:52:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] Duplicate incoming message into two different folders
In-Reply-To: <20150616110834.2a51d14f@kujata>
References: <20150616092952.47945eac@MyLaptop> <20150616110241.7eeda2dd@kujata>
 <BLU436-SMTP119FEF71B519F3613F38D759CA70@phx.gbl>
 <20150616110834.2a51d14f@kujata>
Message-ID: <20150616135207.0119cc07@MyLaptop>

On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 11:08:34 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> This can only happen with filtering or processing rules. (Unless you
> also have another programme that is depositing msgs in your folders.)

I assure you that this is happening, and there is no filtering or
processing at all. I double checked.

I have been busy troubleshooting, so here are some more details:

the problem does not affect all accounts, but only two outlook.com
account (a third outlook account is not affected).

Now, whenever an email is retrieved from one of these two accounts, a
copy of it also gets stored in the other account.

I have checked that on the server there are no forwarding rules,
so I am sure that this is only a local problem that happens within CM.

While troubleshooting, I disabled one of these two outlook.com accounts,
then I sent to it an email. Result: the other account receives a copy
of this email, which is not addressed to it, as if it was the recipient. 
Then I did vice versa, and the same happened with the other account.

In short, whenever an email is retrieved from one of these two accounts,
CM places a copy of it into the other account too.
Then why does this not happen with the third outlook account?!? I don't
know.

For the sake of completeness, I have double checked that all the data
passed to the POP3 server from each account are correct and not mixed
up. I verified that each account has its own separate username.

Next I even checked that these data are properly saved in the account
settings plaintext file accountrc. They are, and each account has its
own separate data.

I really don't know what I could check now.

Could you please look into this?












From brad at fineby.me.uk  Tue Jun 16 16:13:49 2015
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 15:13:49 +0100
Subject: [Users] Duplicate incoming message into two different folders
In-Reply-To: <20150616135207.0119cc07@MyLaptop>
References: <20150616092952.47945eac@MyLaptop> <20150616110241.7eeda2dd@kujata>
 <BLU436-SMTP119FEF71B519F3613F38D759CA70@phx.gbl>
 <20150616110834.2a51d14f@kujata> <20150616135207.0119cc07@MyLaptop>
Message-ID: <20150616151349.26e4dc5c@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 13:52:07 +0000
anton92 at gmx.ru wrote:

Hello anton92 at gmx.ru,

>I assure you that this is happening, and there is no filtering or
>processing at all. I double checked.

(I'm not on the dev team)

Be aware that you are using two accounts to write messages to this
list.  That alone indicates you have two email addresses receiving mail
from the list and that, most likely, you have two email addresses
_subscribed_ to the list.

The above is why Paul said "I assume I'm talking to the same person" and
also said the problem is most likely to be as a result of errant filters
either locally or server side on either, or both of the accounts.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
Your father was a megalomaniac, you've got an insane brother
Pure Mania - The Vibrators
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun 16 16:25:47 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:25:47 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3436] claws-mail segfaults when trying to connect to
 IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <bug-3436-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3436-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3436-595-XcGZgJHVXZ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3436

Rob Campbell <rlcamp1 at gmail.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #7 from Rob Campbell <rlcamp1 at gmail.com> ---
I'm marking this as resolved.  I got the 32-bit version to work instead.  And
then after seeing that the libgnutls package was updated, tried re-installing
the 64-bit version and it seems to work fine.  I don't know for sure that
libgnutls was the problem, but the segfault did seem to happen only when
connecting to an IMAP server using TLS. 

Sorry for the noise!

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.


From anton92 at gmx.ru  Tue Jun 16 16:48:16 2015
From: anton92 at gmx.ru (anton92 at gmx.ru)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:48:16 +0200
Subject: [Users] Duplicate incoming message into two different folders
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 <20150616151349.26e4dc5c@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
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From doark at mail.com  Tue Jun 16 17:04:29 2015
From: doark at mail.com (David Niklas)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 11:04:29 -0400
Subject: [Users] Claws mail makes most of digest grey
Message-ID: <20150616110429.3df4557f@a_seriously_long_hostname>

Thanks, it was the sigs!


From doark at mail.com  Tue Jun 16 17:08:27 2015
From: doark at mail.com (David Niklas)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 11:08:27 -0400
Subject: [Users] What type are regexes?
Message-ID: <20150616110827.4c94a335@a_seriously_long_hostname>

>> Hello, I wanted to know what type of regex claws-mail is using, I
>> can't seem to figure it out and I don't want to try trial and
>> error.  
>
> Standard GNU C library regexp.

The C library (if I'm remembering rightly), supports two kinds, basic
and extended. I'm assuming you mean basic?

Thanks


From doark at mail.com  Tue Jun 16 19:11:05 2015
From: doark at mail.com (David Niklas)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 13:11:05 -0400
Subject: [Users] Trouble using spamassassin
Message-ID: <20150616131105.554c911e@a_seriously_long_hostname>

Hello, I can't seem to get any messages filtered through spamassassin,
I get the error that spamassassin is probably not running.
The info from stderr just says that it can't find spamassassin.
According to lsof spamassassin is:
COMMAND PID  USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF MODE          NAME
spamd  2743 spamd 5u IPv6  12562      0t0  TCP localhost:783
spamd  2745 spamd 5u IPv6  12562      0t0  TCP localhost:783

If this is a spamassassin issue let me know, I'll forward the this.

Thanks, David


From anton92 at gmx.ru  Tue Jun 16 19:32:40 2015
From: anton92 at gmx.ru (anton92 at gmx.ru)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 17:32:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] Duplicate incoming message into two different folders
In-Reply-To: <trinity-72ff7d7d-2d4a-4bcb-9418-69cef8d72550-1434466096792@3capp-mailcom-bs02>
References: <20150616092952.47945eac@MyLaptop> <20150616110241.7eeda2dd@kujata>
 <BLU436-SMTP119FEF71B519F3613F38D759CA70@phx.gbl>
 <20150616110834.2a51d14f@kujata> <20150616135207.0119cc07@MyLaptop>
 <20150616151349.26e4dc5c@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <trinity-72ff7d7d-2d4a-4bcb-9418-69cef8d72550-1434466096792@3capp-mailcom-bs02>
Message-ID: <20150616173240.1e195ba8@MyLaptop>

Dear all,

problem solved. As much as I hate to admit it, the problem was my
fault. A silly mistake in the settings. 

Please disregard this thread.

Thanks




From anton92 at gmx.ru  Tue Jun 16 19:42:22 2015
From: anton92 at gmx.ru (anton92 at gmx.ru)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 17:42:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] Strange behavior when deleting an opened message gets
	deleted
Message-ID: <20150616174222.2c9783eb@MyLaptop>

When a message is open in its own window and I delete it, the
window is not closed. Instead, its contents are emptied and I get
the message "Message has been deleted or moved to another folder".

Is this behavior normal?
What I would expect is that, upon deleting the message (with <del>),
that window should close automatically.

Moreover, I have noticed that due to this strange behavior another
problem is likely to result: since the focus is silently shifted to the
background window, containing the listing of the messages, the user
may keep pressing <del> in the attempt to make the foreground empty
window disappear, or may press <del> more than once, to make sure that
the message was actually delete. All the while, each time <del> is
pressed, a message gets deleted in the background window, unbeknown to
the user.
This is a non-trivial issue.


From rlindx at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jun 17 13:00:18 2015
From: rlindx at sbcglobal.net (Rob Lindauer)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 07:00:18 -0400
Subject: [Users] Searching earlier claws mailing list entries
Message-ID: <55815342.9000007@sbcglobal.net>

Please excuse me if this is a very silly / elementary question... Is 
there a mechanism I can use to search previous mailing list submissions 
and responses?  I have some elementary claws questions which I imagine 
have been discussed before.  I know I can download the individual 
archive files, but I hope there's something more convenient.  Thanks!
-- 
Rob Lindauer


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 17 13:22:49 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 12:22:49 +0100
Subject: [Users] Searching earlier claws mailing list entries
In-Reply-To: <55815342.9000007@sbcglobal.net>
References: <55815342.9000007@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <20150617122249.5548f6c5@kujata>

On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 07:00:18 -0400
Rob Lindauer <rlindx at sbcglobal.net> wrote: 

> Please excuse me if this is a very silly / elementary question...
> Is there a mechanism I can use to search previous mailing list
> submissions and responses?  I have some elementary claws questions
> which I imagine have been discussed before.  I know I can download
> the individual archive files, but I hope there's something more
> convenient.  Thanks!

Use a search engine, specifying the host.

e.g. startpage.com or google

site:lists.claws-mail.org foo

with regards

Paul


From andrej at kacian.sk  Wed Jun 17 13:24:45 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 13:24:45 +0200
Subject: [Users] Searching earlier claws mailing list entries
In-Reply-To: <55815342.9000007@sbcglobal.net>
References: <55815342.9000007@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <20150617132445.0379fd26@hiker>

On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 07:00:18 -0400
Rob Lindauer <rlindx at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Please excuse me if this is a very silly / elementary question... Is 
> there a mechanism I can use to search previous mailing list
> submissions and responses?  I have some elementary claws questions
> which I imagine have been discussed before.  I know I can download
> the individual archive files, but I hope there's something more
> convenient.  Thanks!

Hi Rob,

there is always gmane.org (even though they refuse for years to update
the list name):

http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.mail.sylpheed.claws.general

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From kae at midnighthax.com  Wed Jun 17 17:34:50 2015
From: kae at midnighthax.com (Keith Edmunds)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 16:34:50 +0100
Subject: [Users] Printing cut off
Message-ID: <20150617163450.610db847@kae.tiger-computing.wbp>

Claws 3.11.1

I have an odd printing problem. When I print a plain text email to either
of two printers or to a PDF, some lines are cut off on the left (ie, I
only see the ends of the lines, not the start). Doesn't apply to all lines
and, interesting, *doesn't* apply to print preview.

I'll try to illustrate. Here's some of the original text from a mail:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
We spend a large portion of our lives selling  selling our customers that  
they ought to buy from us, selling our organizations on our ideas, and,
as parents, selling our kids to listen to us. Being a bad salesperson  
is counter productive to leading a good life. Selling involves
influencing and moving people without any authority. Nearly every job in
the knowledge economy requires that skill.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

If I print to file, here's how the PDF for that paragraph looks:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
t  
as
parents, selling our kids to listen to us. Being a bad salesperson  
ng
ge
economy requires that skill.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Any idea what's happening here?

I'm happy to send the original mail and a PDF rendering of it to anyone
who feels they can help (PM me).

Thanks,
Keith


From jerry at seibercom.net  Wed Jun 17 18:05:40 2015
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 12:05:40 -0400
Subject: [Users] Printing cut off
In-Reply-To: <20150617163450.610db847@kae.tiger-computing.wbp>
References: <20150617163450.610db847@kae.tiger-computing.wbp>
Message-ID: <20150617120540.46c80d5f@seibercom.net>

On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 16:34:50 +0100, Keith Edmunds stated:


>Claws 3.11.1
>
>I have an odd printing problem. When I print a plain text email to either
>of two printers or to a PDF, some lines are cut off on the left (ie, I
>only see the ends of the lines, not the start). Doesn't apply to all lines
>and, interesting, *doesn't* apply to print preview.
>
>I'll try to illustrate. Here's some of the original text from a mail:
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>We spend a large portion of our lives selling  selling our customers that  
>they ought to buy from us, selling our organizations on our ideas, and,
>as parents, selling our kids to listen to us. Being a bad salesperson  
>is counter productive to leading a good life. Selling involves
>influencing and moving people without any authority. Nearly every job in
>the knowledge economy requires that skill.
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>If I print to file, here's how the PDF for that paragraph looks:
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>t  
>as
>parents, selling our kids to listen to us. Being a bad salesperson  
>ng
>ge
>economy requires that skill.
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Any idea what's happening here?
>
>I'm happy to send the original mail and a PDF rendering of it to anyone
>who feels they can help (PM me).

I have a somewhat similar problem. The overall format of the printed document
often has the bottom lines on a page cut off. The exact same email, when
printed out using MS Outlook 2013 prints perfectly. I suppose I could supply a
screen capture the next time I print such a document.

-- 
Jerry


From dan_arico at aricosystems.com  Wed Jun 17 18:11:08 2015
From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 12:11:08 -0400
Subject: [Users] Printing cut off
In-Reply-To: <20150617120540.46c80d5f@seibercom.net>
References: <20150617163450.610db847@kae.tiger-computing.wbp>
 <20150617120540.46c80d5f@seibercom.net>
Message-ID: <20150617121108.2b798d32.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>

> >Claws 3.11.1
> >
> >I have an odd printing problem. When I print a plain text email to
> >either of two printers or to a PDF, some lines are cut off on the
> >left (ie, I only see the ends of the lines, not the start). Doesn't
> >apply to all lines and, interesting, *doesn't* apply to print
> >preview.
> >
> >I'll try to illustrate. Here's some of the original text from a mail:
> >
> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >We spend a large portion of our lives selling  selling our customers
> >that they ought to buy from us, selling our organizations on our
> >ideas, and, as parents, selling our kids to listen to us. Being a
> >bad salesperson is counter productive to leading a good life.
> >Selling involves influencing and moving people without any
> >authority. Nearly every job in the knowledge economy requires that
> >skill.
> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >If I print to file, here's how the PDF for that paragraph looks:
> >
> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >t  
> >as
> >parents, selling our kids to listen to us. Being a bad salesperson  
> >ng
> >ge
> >economy requires that skill.
> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >Any idea what's happening here?
> >
> >I'm happy to send the original mail and a PDF rendering of it to
> >anyone who feels they can help (PM me).
> 
> I have a somewhat similar problem. The overall format of the printed
> document often has the bottom lines on a page cut off. The exact same
> email, when printed out using MS Outlook 2013 prints perfectly. I
> suppose I could supply a screen capture the next time I print such a
> document.
> 

I've had that second problem (using CUPS on Linux). The problem was the
printer configuration. The borders were set bigger than the printer
could actually print. When I set the bottom border properly, the
problem went away.

Dan

-- 
One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them,
One OS to bring them all, and in the Darkness bind them,
In the land of Redmond, where the Sales Reps lie.


From kae at midnighthax.com  Wed Jun 17 18:17:24 2015
From: kae at midnighthax.com (Keith Edmunds)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 17:17:24 +0100
Subject: [Users] Printing cut off
In-Reply-To: <20150617120540.46c80d5f@seibercom.net>
References: <20150617163450.610db847@kae.tiger-computing.wbp>
 <20150617120540.46c80d5f@seibercom.net>
Message-ID: <20150617171724.7989945c@kae.tiger-computing.wbp>

> The overall format of the printed document
> often has the bottom lines on a page cut off. 

I don't see that. The whole page is there, just with the left side cut off
on many lines. I am using CUPS under Linux (Debian 8/Jessie), but all
other applications print without problem. The fact that this happens on
two different printers and when rendering to PDF leads me to believe this
is a claws problem.


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Wed Jun 17 18:54:15 2015
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 17:54:15 +0100
Subject: [Users] Printing cut off
In-Reply-To: <20150617171724.7989945c@kae.tiger-computing.wbp>
References: <20150617163450.610db847@kae.tiger-computing.wbp>
 <20150617120540.46c80d5f@seibercom.net>
 <20150617171724.7989945c@kae.tiger-computing.wbp>
Message-ID: <20150617175415.78378f80@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 17:17:24 +0100
Keith Edmunds <kae at midnighthax.com> wrote:

Hello Keith,

>I don't see that. The whole page is there, just with the left side cut
>off on many lines. I am using CUPS under Linux (Debian 8/Jessie), but
>all other applications print without problem. The fact that this

I see the same problem you're having.  All other apps print fine, and
none of the tweaking I tried with drivers and settings in Cm produced a
correct output.

I hadn't mentioned it here since I rarely need to print anything from
Claws, and as nobody else had wither, thought it was likely to be "just
me".

Like you, I'm using Debian.  However, I'm using a hybrid
testing/experimental set up.  Most stuff from testing, but Iceweasel
comes from experimental.  Also, I compile CM from GIT.

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        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
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From kae at midnighthax.com  Wed Jun 17 19:52:18 2015
From: kae at midnighthax.com (Keith Edmunds)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 18:52:18 +0100
Subject: [Users] Printing cut off
In-Reply-To: <20150617175415.78378f80@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20150617163450.610db847@kae.tiger-computing.wbp>
 <20150617120540.46c80d5f@seibercom.net>
 <20150617171724.7989945c@kae.tiger-computing.wbp>
 <20150617175415.78378f80@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20150617185218.53f5afb4@ws.the.cage>

Thanks for the confirmation, Brad. I too print rarely, which I why I
hadn't mentioned it before; however, I needed to print off four emails
today, and had to do it from Roundcube(!).
-- 
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't" - Jack Dempsey
    


From linux at slavino.sk  Wed Jun 17 20:28:55 2015
From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 20:28:55 +0200
Subject: [Users] Printing cut off
In-Reply-To: <20150617185218.53f5afb4@ws.the.cage>
References: <20150617163450.610db847@kae.tiger-computing.wbp>
 <20150617120540.46c80d5f@seibercom.net>
 <20150617171724.7989945c@kae.tiger-computing.wbp>
 <20150617175415.78378f80@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20150617185218.53f5afb4@ws.the.cage>
Message-ID: <20150617202855.1da38c5b@bonifac>

Ahoj,

Dňa Wed, 17 Jun 2015 18:52:18 +0100 Keith Edmunds <kae at midnighthax.com>
napísal:

> Thanks for the confirmation, Brad. I too print rarely, which I why I
> hadn't mentioned it before; however, I needed to print off four emails
> today, and had to do it from Roundcube(!).

I have the problem with printing from CM too. As workaround i print to
file (PDF) and then i print this PDF without problems ;-)

regards

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From ricardo at mones.org  Wed Jun 17 21:11:15 2015
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 21:11:15 +0200
Subject: [Users] Printing cut off
In-Reply-To: <20150617163450.610db847@kae.tiger-computing.wbp>
References: <20150617163450.610db847@kae.tiger-computing.wbp>
Message-ID: <20150617211115.4b0c3da5@busgosu>

On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 16:34:50 +0100
Keith Edmunds <kae at midnighthax.com> wrote:

> Claws 3.11.1
> 
> I have an odd printing problem. When I print a plain text email to either
> of two printers or to a PDF, some lines are cut off on the left (ie, I
> only see the ends of the lines, not the start). Doesn't apply to all lines
> and, interesting, *doesn't* apply to print preview.
> 
> I'll try to illustrate. Here's some of the original text from a mail:
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> We spend a large portion of our lives selling  selling our customers that  
> they ought to buy from us, selling our organizations on our ideas, and,
> as parents, selling our kids to listen to us. Being a bad salesperson  
> is counter productive to leading a good life. Selling involves
> influencing and moving people without any authority. Nearly every job in
> the knowledge economy requires that skill.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> If I print to file, here's how the PDF for that paragraph looks:
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> t  
> as
> parents, selling our kids to listen to us. Being a bad salesperson  
> ng
> ge
> economy requires that skill.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Any idea what's happening here?
> 
> I'm happy to send the original mail and a PDF rendering of it to anyone
> who feels they can help (PM me).


Probably https://bugs.debian.org/776563

There's some workarounds worth to try there.

regards,
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From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Wed Jun 17 21:11:58 2015
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 12:11:58 -0700
Subject: [Users] Printing cut off
In-Reply-To: <20150617175415.78378f80@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20150617163450.610db847@kae.tiger-computing.wbp>
 <20150617120540.46c80d5f@seibercom.net>
 <20150617171724.7989945c@kae.tiger-computing.wbp>
 <20150617175415.78378f80@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20150617121158.7d203377@frogguski.911networks.com>

On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 17:54:15 +0100
Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:

>I see the same problem you're having.  All other apps print fine, and
>none of the tweaking I tried with drivers and settings in Cm
>produced a correct output.
>
>I hadn't mentioned it here since I rarely need to print anything from
>Claws, and as nobody else had wither, thought it was likely to be
>"just me".

I had the same problem with my Samsung printer.  You can set the
printer margins through the administration or LPOPTIONS to view your
margins

Mine are set to:

page-bottom=72 page-right=40 page-left=40 page-top=72 (each point is
1/72 inch)

-- 
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vyS


From kae at midnighthax.com  Wed Jun 17 21:25:15 2015
From: kae at midnighthax.com (Keith Edmunds)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 20:25:15 +0100
Subject: [Users] Printing cut off
In-Reply-To: <20150617211115.4b0c3da5@busgosu>
References: <20150617163450.610db847@kae.tiger-computing.wbp>
 <20150617211115.4b0c3da5@busgosu>
Message-ID: <20150617202515.77967def@ws.the.cage>

> Probably https://bugs.debian.org/776563
> 
> There's some workarounds worth to try there.

Thanks Ricardo: explicitly setting the printer font to the default,
monospace 9, fixed the problem.
-- 
"50% of the population is of below average intelligence. Yes, only 50%"
- Kilo Echo
    


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Wed Jun 17 21:28:55 2015
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 20:28:55 +0100
Subject: [Users] Printing cut off
In-Reply-To: <20150617211115.4b0c3da5@busgosu>
References: <20150617163450.610db847@kae.tiger-computing.wbp>
 <20150617211115.4b0c3da5@busgosu>
Message-ID: <20150617202855.40d8f1e9@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 21:11:15 +0200
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:

Hello Ricardo,

>Probably https://bugs.debian.org/776563
>There's some workarounds worth to try there.

TL;DR.

I did skim through though, and noticed that it seems to be an issue with
a certain version of libcairo2(0).  My system has the more up to date
version of the library.  So far, I've not been able to (re)create the
missing text bug when printing.

To Keith:

Upgrade your copy of libcairo2 to version 1.14.2-2 if you can.

As things stand I'll say that, for me at least, the problem is solved.

Thanks for the pointers, Ricardo.

(0) Info from message #84, written by yourself Ricardo, quoting parts of
#83 by Manolo Díaz.

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         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Wed Jun 17 21:36:25 2015
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 20:36:25 +0100
Subject: [Users] Printing cut off
In-Reply-To: <20150617202515.77967def@ws.the.cage>
References: <20150617163450.610db847@kae.tiger-computing.wbp>
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 <20150617202515.77967def@ws.the.cage>
Message-ID: <20150617203625.53452893@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 20:25:15 +0100
Keith Edmunds <kae at midnighthax.com> wrote:

Hello Keith,

Following on from my reply to Ricardo...

>Thanks Ricardo: explicitly setting the printer font to the default,
>monospace 9, fixed the problem.

...or that.  :-)

Sorted. 

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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Wed Jun 17 21:40:06 2015
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 20:40:06 +0100
Subject: [Users] Printing cut off
In-Reply-To: <20150617121158.7d203377@frogguski.911networks.com>
References: <20150617163450.610db847@kae.tiger-computing.wbp>
 <20150617120540.46c80d5f@seibercom.net>
 <20150617171724.7989945c@kae.tiger-computing.wbp>
 <20150617175415.78378f80@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20150617121158.7d203377@frogguski.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20150617204006.0b97cac8@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 12:11:58 -0700
sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:

Hello sylpheed at 911networks.com,

>I had the same problem with my Samsung printer.  You can set the
>printer margins through the administration or LPOPTIONS to view your
>margins

It's not a margins issue.

Anyhow, as you'll have seen by now, it's all sorted.

Once again, thanks to all for insights, etc.

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        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
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From ricardo at mones.org  Wed Jun 17 23:50:04 2015
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 23:50:04 +0200
Subject: [Users] Drafts folder highlighted as if it contained new and
 unread messages
In-Reply-To: <20150611081854.12426aaf@ron.cerrocora.org>
References: <20140224134153.5fb8ebba@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20140224170231.GJ21209@trasgu>
 <20150611081854.12426aaf@ron.cerrocora.org>
Message-ID: <20150617235004.2d9adba9@busgosu>

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 08:18:54 -0400
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org> wrote:

> > Don't take the name of root in vain.          /usr/src/linux/README  
> 
> ron at ron:~ $ cat /usr/src/linux/README
> cat: /usr/src/linux/README: No such file or directory

# cd /usr/src
# git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git

Enjoy,
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 14 14:50:56 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 12:50:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3432] Google ClientLogin has been deprecated,
 should be migrated to OAuth 2.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-3432-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3432-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3432-595-pWIpCT5q1H@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3432

--- Comment #2 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2015-06-18 00:36:02.899228110 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=6ea8ac8cd31f6b622603fa24f27636eaffb141fb
Merge: 8432a7c aadb7d5
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Thu Jun 18 00:36:02 2015 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=aadb7d5405e67c0823a624728652c01055c837f6
Author: Holger Berndt <hb at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Sun Jun 14 21:45:16 2015 +0200

    GData plugin: Support cold-start

    Store refresh token, and try to authorize Google access with it on
    startup. Interactive authorization is now only the fallback if refreshing
    cannot be done or was not successful.

    Fixes bug #3432 but requires yet unreleased libgdata, see
    https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750746

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 18 00:40:18 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 22:40:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3432] Google ClientLogin has been deprecated,
 should be migrated to OAuth 2.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-3432-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3432-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3432-595-zqk6OFvrWK@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3432

Holger Berndt <hb at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #3 from Holger Berndt <hb at claws-mail.org> ---
OAuth2 support is now in git, but currently requires libgdata from git, so the
dependancy is somewhat hard to fulfill.

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From codejodler at gmx.ch  Thu Jun 18 01:13:35 2015
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 01:13:35 +0200
Subject: [Users] candy mail
Message-ID: <20150618011335.0ea1ad21@mirrors.kernel.org>


It's hard to believe that only a couple of people are coding such an amazing application as claws-mail in their free-time!


From ricardo at mones.org  Thu Jun 18 01:59:29 2015
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 01:59:29 +0200
Subject: [Users] candy mail
In-Reply-To: <20150618011335.0ea1ad21@mirrors.kernel.org>
References: <20150618011335.0ea1ad21@mirrors.kernel.org>
Message-ID: <20150618015929.5be45251@busgosu>

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 01:13:35 +0200
Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote:

> It's hard to believe that only a couple of people are coding such an
> amazing application as claws-mail in their free-time!

Obviously they're more than a couple, and not only in their free time,
I've been told also some sleep hours are used ;-)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 18 09:28:39 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 07:28:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2965] Encrypted mails are stored unencrypted in
 'Queue' while sending via IMAP
In-Reply-To: <bug-2965-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2965-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2965-595-4UDAuVNqq1@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2965

--- Comment #14 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Created attachment 1516
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1516&action=edit
Do not write unencrypted message to queue

Attached patch should solve the underlying issue, by writing only encrypted
message to queue. Please give it a try.

Note that it is still work in progress, some additional error checking needs to
be done, but functionality is all there.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 18 15:19:06 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:19:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2551] support sieve script management
In-Reply-To: <bug-2551-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2551-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2551-595-CCnXPkPrDb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2551

Christian Hesse <mail at earthworm.de> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 18 15:21:36 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:21:36 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3437] New: various cleanups
Message-ID: <bug-3437-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3437

            Bug ID: 3437
           Summary: various cleanups
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: All
                OS: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: mail at earthworm.de

Created attachment 1517
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1517&action=edit
fix inconsistent use of tabs and spaces in indentation

I sent most of this to the mailing list but nobody cared... So uploading here.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 18 15:22:04 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:22:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3437] various cleanups
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References: <bug-3437-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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add *.tar.xz (xz compressed source tarball) to .gitignore

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 18 15:22:20 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:22:20 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3437] various cleanups
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3437

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fix type in yacc file

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 18 15:22:38 2015
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:22:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3437] various cleanups
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3437

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remove unused variables

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 18 15:22:55 2015
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:22:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3437] various cleanups
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References: <bug-3437-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3437

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do not redefine MIN and MAX

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 18 15:23:38 2015
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:23:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3437] various cleanups
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 18 15:23:17 2015
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:23:17 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3437] various cleanups
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References: <bug-3437-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3437

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 18 15:24:05 2015
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:24:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3437] various cleanups
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References: <bug-3437-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3437

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remove unused code relating to old unsupported version of libarchive

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 18 15:29:36 2015
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:29:36 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3437] various cleanups
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References: <bug-3437-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3437-595-Djbs8iR1u4@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3437

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replace raw logo with xpm and fix deprecated gdk_pixbuf_new_from_inline

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 18 16:21:35 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:21:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3437] various cleanups
In-Reply-To: <bug-3437-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3437-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3437-595-t9KX2HRf7P@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3437

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I pushed the changes to a branch on github:
https://github.com/eworm-de/claws-mail/commits/various-cleanups

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From codejodler at gmx.ch  Thu Jun 18 16:48:17 2015
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:48:17 +0200
Subject: [Users] candy mail
In-Reply-To: <20150618015929.5be45251@busgosu>
References: <20150618011335.0ea1ad21@mirrors.kernel.org>
 <20150618015929.5be45251@busgosu>
Message-ID: <20150618164817.7379f51c@mirrors.kernel.org>

Ricardo,

> Obviously they're more than a couple, and not only in their free time,
> I've been told also some sleep hours are used ;-)

lol

figures :)


From andrej at kacian.sk  Thu Jun 18 19:17:32 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 19:17:32 +0200
Subject: [Users] candy mail
In-Reply-To: <20150618015929.5be45251@busgosu>
References: <20150618011335.0ea1ad21@mirrors.kernel.org>
 <20150618015929.5be45251@busgosu>
Message-ID: <20150618191732.7029514e@penny>

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 01:59:29 +0200
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:

> Obviously they're more than a couple, and not only in their free time,
> I've been told also some sleep hours are used ;-)

So, can "Claws Mail - it's what dreams are made of" be added as a motto
to the webpage? :)

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From codejodler at gmx.ch  Thu Jun 18 20:40:09 2015
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:40:09 +0200
Subject: [Users] candy mail
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References: <20150618011335.0ea1ad21@mirrors.kernel.org>
 <20150618015929.5be45251@busgosu> <20150618191732.7029514e@penny>
Message-ID: <20150618204009.60a138c5@mirrors.kernel.org>

>> Obviously they're more than a couple, and not only in their free time,
>> I've been told also some sleep hours are used ;-) 

> So, can "Claws Mail - it's what dreams are made of" be added as a motto
> to the webpage? :)

well i guess to the devos it can be more like a nightmare hahaha.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 19 06:33:03 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 04:33:03 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3438] New: Filter to add address to Addressbook
 duplicates address in Name field
Message-ID: <bug-3438-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3438

            Bug ID: 3438
           Summary: Filter to add address to Addressbook duplicates
                    address in Name field
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.11.1
          Hardware: All
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P3
         Component: Filtering
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: bugzilla-claws-ok at oo.net

Filter to add address to Addressbook duplicates address in the name field
instead of using the Real Name.

Clicking on an address to add it to the Addressbook works normally.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 19 06:51:55 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 04:51:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3439] New: Filter - To addresses not in Addressbook
 true if *any* To address not in Addressbook
Message-ID: <bug-3439-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3439

            Bug ID: 3439
           Summary: Filter - To addresses not in Addressbook true if *any*
                    To address not in Addressbook
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.11.1
          Hardware: All
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P3
         Component: Filtering
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: bugzilla-claws-ok at oo.net

Filter - if email contains multiple addresses in field or fields being tested
in or not in Addressbook, only one address needs to match or mismatch for the
test to be true. For example, if on To address is not found in Addressbook,
then the filter proceeds as if *none* of the addresses is in the Addressbook.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 19 06:54:40 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 04:54:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3440] New: Filter on sending mail
Message-ID: <bug-3440-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3440

            Bug ID: 3440
           Summary: Filter on sending mail
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.11.1
          Hardware: All
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Filtering
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: bugzilla-claws-ok at oo.net

Filters run manually, on incoming mail, or when entering a folder. Might be
good to have filters for *outgoing* mail.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 19 06:56:43 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 04:56:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3441] New: Filter - "Save As" option
Message-ID: <bug-3441-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3441

            Bug ID: 3441
           Summary: Filter - "Save As" option
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.11.1
          Hardware: All
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Filtering
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: bugzilla-claws-ok at oo.net

Option for filter to save message to disk (as .eml file)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 19 07:03:24 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 05:03:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3442] New: Fancy plugin for composing outgoing mail
Message-ID: <bug-3442-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3442

            Bug ID: 3442
           Summary: Fancy plugin for composing outgoing mail
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.11.1
          Hardware: All
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Filtering
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: bugzilla-claws-ok at oo.net

Fancy plugin works well for receiving html messages. Responding to html
messages is confusing for the sender. It might be a good idea to have Fancy for
simple html in outgoing mail. Quoted html might render Fancy instead of plain.
Might also be good for novice users to be able to bold, italic, font size, font
color, background color.

Attaching an html document works fine yet novice users find this too difficult.
Having a simple Fancy integrated with Claws would allow the simple functions
that they expect.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 19 07:09:46 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 05:09:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3442] Fancy plugin for composing outgoing mail
In-Reply-To: <bug-3442-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3442-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3442-595-ecu3NHXMhE@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3442

Technical Support <bugzilla-claws-ok at oo.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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          Component|Filtering                   |Plugins

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 19 09:02:53 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 07:02:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3442] Fancy plugin for composing outgoing mail
In-Reply-To: <bug-3442-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3442-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3442-595-aXc0mLuhYx@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3442

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |WONTFIX

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The Fancy plugin is an HTML rendererer, and only that.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 19 09:06:41 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 07:06:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3441] Filter - "Save As" option
In-Reply-To: <bug-3441-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3441-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3441-595-tXnLGeML6J@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3441

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

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This is already possible using the 'Execute' filtering Action.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 19 12:30:08 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 10:30:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3440] Filter on sending mail
In-Reply-To: <bug-3440-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3440-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3440-595-3NG8CZMGuY@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3440

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Do you have examples of what do you want to achieve?

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From petter at synth.no  Fri Jun 19 12:47:00 2015
From: petter at synth.no (Petter Adsen)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:47:00 +0200
Subject: [Users] Where does Claws store words added to spellchecker?
Message-ID: <20150619124700.08702f48@monster>

I've had to reinstall due to a disk crash, and I've noticed that Claws
no longer recognized words I had added when spell checking, even though
I thought I had restored every file necessary for configuration, etc.

Is this stored somewhere outside of ~/.claws-mail/ ? If so, where?

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I couldn't find a relevant
answer in the FAQ or manual. Maybe I looked in the wrong place.

Petter

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 19 13:10:44 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 11:10:44 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3438] Filter to add address to Addressbook duplicates
 address in Name field
In-Reply-To: <bug-3438-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3438-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3438-595-fNxvbCJsIs@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3438

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Fix proposal

The attached patch probably fix this. Can you test?

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 19 13:35:26 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:35:26 +0100
Subject: [Users] Where does Claws store words added to spellchecker?
In-Reply-To: <20150619124700.08702f48@monster>
References: <20150619124700.08702f48@monster>
Message-ID: <20150619123526.4880298a@kujata>

On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:47:00 +0200
Petter Adsen <petter at synth.no> wrote: 

> I've had to reinstall due to a disk crash, and I've noticed that
> Claws no longer recognized words I had added when spell checking,
> even though I thought I had restored every file necessary for
> configuration, etc.
> 
> Is this stored somewhere outside of ~/.claws-mail/ ? If so, where?

In ~/.config/enchant/[LANG].dic

with regards

Paul


From subscript at free.fr  Fri Jun 19 14:06:48 2015
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 14:06:48 +0200
Subject: [Users] Where does Claws store words added to spellchecker?
In-Reply-To: <20150619123526.4880298a@kujata>
References: <20150619124700.08702f48@monster> <20150619123526.4880298a@kujata>
Message-ID: <20150619140648.194921ab@anthra>

Hello Paul,


On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:35:26 +0100 Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:47:00 +0200
> Petter Adsen <petter at synth.no> wrote: 
> 
> > I've had to reinstall due to a disk crash, and I've noticed that
> > Claws no longer recognized words I had added when spell checking,
> > even though I thought I had restored every file necessary for
> > configuration, etc.
> > 
> > Is this stored somewhere outside of ~/.claws-mail/ ? If so, where?
> 
> In ~/.config/enchant/[LANG].dic

Strange, all files in this directory here are empty. If I add a word to
personal dictionary, I see those files growing, but I don't know what
reset them and when. Too bad 'cause I'm adding words to personal dicts
for years :-D (CentOS6, enchant 1.5.0).


Regards,

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 19 14:25:44 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 13:25:44 +0100
Subject: [Users] Where does Claws store words added to spellchecker?
In-Reply-To: <20150619140648.194921ab@anthra>
References: <20150619124700.08702f48@monster> <20150619123526.4880298a@kujata>
 <20150619140648.194921ab@anthra>
Message-ID: <20150619132544.7fd63721@kujata>

On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 14:06:48 +0200
wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote: 

> Strange, all files in this directory here are empty. If I add a
> word to personal dictionary, I see those files growing, but I don't
> know what reset them and when. Too bad 'cause I'm adding words to
> personal dicts for years :-D (CentOS6, enchant 1.5.0).

They apparently moved to this location with release 1.4.2, May 2008:
"Use XDG's data-dirs spec for locating dictionaries (eg.
~/.config/enchant/myspell/)"

but I don't know what the previous location was. It sounds like
the transition wasn't carried out well, or perhaps not at all.

with regards

Paul


From rsv869 at runbox.com  Fri Jun 19 14:53:54 2015
From: rsv869 at runbox.com (Reid Vail)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 08:53:54 -0400
Subject: [Users] Public key encryption... troubleshoot
Message-ID: <20150619085354.4c73088b@runbox.com>

Hello -

I need some advice to get PKE working with CM.  At this point I'm testing between two
accounts of mine.  I've created the keys and exported the public keys and I (sorry
if I don't the nomenclature  right) associated the public keys with the addresses.

Within CM I've added the plugins for pgpinline and pgpcore and turn on support for
these with the account configs.

when I try to send an encrypted message I get this general error.  Not sure how to
isolate the issue.


"Couldn't encrypt the email: Encryption failed, General error
Use "Send queued messages" from the main window to retry."

thx

RSV


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 19 14:54:08 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:54:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2661] Unencrypted e-mail gets saved on IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <bug-2661-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2661-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2661-595-IGMs2o5o48@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2661

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #22 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 2965 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 19 14:54:08 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:54:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2965] Encrypted mails are stored unencrypted in
 'Queue' while sending via IMAP
In-Reply-To: <bug-2965-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2965-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2965-595-jn8Lxd5I0F@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2965

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |feek at abwesend.de

--- Comment #15 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
*** Bug 2661 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 19 15:02:48 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 14:02:48 +0100
Subject: [Users] Public key encryption... troubleshoot
In-Reply-To: <20150619085354.4c73088b@runbox.com>
References: <20150619085354.4c73088b@runbox.com>
Message-ID: <20150619140248.67f900ce@kujata>

On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 08:53:54 -0400
Reid Vail <rsv869 at runbox.com> wrote: 

> "Couldn't encrypt the email: Encryption failed, General error
> Use "Send queued messages" from the main window to retry."

Almost certainly a problem with your gnup-agent configuration. If
you're in luck then installing a pinentry program will fix it, such
as pinentry-gtk2.

Otherwise this may help:

http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Plugins#How_do_I_configure_gpg-agent_and_the_PGP_plugin.3F

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 19 15:35:55 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 13:35:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3442] Fancy plugin for composing outgoing mail
In-Reply-To: <bug-3442-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3442-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3442-595-600okJa1Oh@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3442

--- Comment #2 from Salvatore De Paolis <iwkse at claws-mail.org> ---
Indeed. This is not going to happen not sooner nor later.
Think it more as a viewer for HTML feeds or newsletters.

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From jan at willamowius.de  Fri Jun 19 16:59:15 2015
From: jan at willamowius.de (Jan Willamowius)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:59:15 +0200
Subject: [Users] Can't check S/Mime signatures with Claws 3.11.1 on Ubuntu
	14.02
Message-ID: <20150619165915.027da50a@janhh4.site>

Hi,

for _all_ S/Mime signatures I get the error "The signature can't be
checked - Unsupported protocol". This also happens for signatures that
I was able to check with older versions of Claws running on SuSE 13.1.

Checking signatures on the command line with gpgsm works fine.

Here is the debug output:

smime.c:224:Checking S/MIME signature
sgpgme.c:406:data 0x7f0a1fffdbb8 (3081 3178)
sgpgme.c:73:op_verify err Unsupported protocol
summaryview.c:3650:TIMING summary_display_msg_full : 0s050ms
mimeview.c:1143:mimeview_check_sig_thread_cb
sgpgme.c:91:system error
sgpgme.c:91:system error

Could it be that the libgpgme version on Ubuntu is too old ? Its 1.4.3
while my old system had 1.4.4.

Any other ideas ?

Thanks,
Jan

-- 
Jan Willamowius, jan at willamowius.de, http://www.willamowius.de/


From mir at miras.org  Fri Jun 19 17:14:03 2015
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 17:14:03 +0200
Subject: [Users] Can't check S/Mime signatures with Claws 3.11.1 on
 Ubuntu 14.02
In-Reply-To: <20150619165915.027da50a@janhh4.site>
References: <20150619165915.027da50a@janhh4.site>
Message-ID: <20150619171403.2cb88e21@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:59:15 +0200
Jan Willamowius <jan at willamowius.de> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> for _all_ S/Mime signatures I get the error "The signature can't be
> checked - Unsupported protocol". This also happens for signatures that
> I was able to check with older versions of Claws running on SuSE 13.1.
> 
> Could it be that the libgpgme version on Ubuntu is too old ? Its 1.4.3
> while my old system had 1.4.4.
> 
> Any other ideas ?
> 
Do have gnome-keyring installed?

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917
--------------------------------------------------------------
/usr/games/fortune -es says:
That's the true harbinger of spring, not crocuses or swallows
returning to Capistrano, but the sound of a bat on a ball.
		-- Bill Veeck
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From mir at miras.org  Fri Jun 19 17:14:59 2015
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 17:14:59 +0200
Subject: [Users] Can't check S/Mime signatures with Claws 3.11.1 on
 Ubuntu 14.02
In-Reply-To: <20150619165915.027da50a@janhh4.site>
References: <20150619165915.027da50a@janhh4.site>
Message-ID: <20150619171459.7b4d7024@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:59:15 +0200
Jan Willamowius <jan at willamowius.de> wrote:

> 
> Any other ideas ?
> 
Follow this howto:
http://www.bootc.net/archives/2013/06/09/my-perfect-gnupg-ssh-agent-setup/

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917
--------------------------------------------------------------
/usr/games/fortune -es says:
That's the true harbinger of spring, not crocuses or swallows
returning to Capistrano, but the sound of a bat on a ball.
		-- Bill Veeck
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From jan at willamowius.de  Fri Jun 19 17:29:03 2015
From: jan at willamowius.de (Jan Willamowius)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 17:29:03 +0200
Subject: [Users] Can't check S/Mime signatures with Claws 3.11.1 on
 Ubuntu 14.02
In-Reply-To: <20150619171403.2cb88e21@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20150619165915.027da50a@janhh4.site>
 <20150619171403.2cb88e21@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20150619172903.26690b9b@janhh4.site>

Michael Rasmussen wrote:
> Jan Willamowius <jan at willamowius.de> wrote:
> > for _all_ S/Mime signatures I get the error "The signature can't be
> > checked - Unsupported protocol". This also happens for signatures that
> > I was able to check with older versions of Claws running on SuSE 13.1.
> > 
> > Could it be that the libgpgme version on Ubuntu is too old ? Its 1.4.3
> > while my old system had 1.4.4.
> > 
> > Any other ideas ?
> > 
> Do have gnome-keyring installed?

I do.

> Follow this howto:
> http://www.bootc.net/archives/2013/06/09/my-perfect-gnupg-ssh-agent-setup/

Do I really need all that SSH specific stuff to get Claws S/Mime check
working ? I didn't have that before.

Is there a way to check outside of Claws if GnuPG and the agent is set
up correctly ?

Thanks,
Jan

-- 
Jan Willamowius, jan at willamowius.de, http://www.willamowius.de/


From mir at miras.org  Fri Jun 19 17:51:36 2015
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 17:51:36 +0200
Subject: [Users] Can't check S/Mime signatures with Claws 3.11.1 on
 Ubuntu 14.02
In-Reply-To: <20150619172903.26690b9b@janhh4.site>
References: <20150619165915.027da50a@janhh4.site>
 <20150619171403.2cb88e21@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150619172903.26690b9b@janhh4.site>
Message-ID: <20150619175136.3b14e7ae@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 17:29:03 +0200
Jan Willamowius <jan at willamowius.de> wrote:

> 
> I do.
> 
> > Follow this howto:
> > http://www.bootc.net/archives/2013/06/09/my-perfect-gnupg-ssh-agent-setup/
> 
> Do I really need all that SSH specific stuff to get Claws S/Mime check
> working ? I didn't have that before.
> 
> Is there a way to check outside of Claws if GnuPG and the agent is set
> up correctly ?
> 
If you have gnome-keyring installed S/Mime will never work with
claws-mail.

A quick test which will show whether GnuPG and gpg-agent is configured
correct and will work with claws-mail is to install gpa (Gnu Privacy
Admin) and see if it complains. If it doesn't GnuPG should work with
claws-mail.

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917
--------------------------------------------------------------
/usr/games/fortune -es says:
The entire CHINESE WOMEN'S VOLLEYBALL TEAM all share ONE personality --
and have since BIRTH!!
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 19 18:01:35 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 17:01:35 +0100
Subject: [Users] Can't check S/Mime signatures with Claws 3.11.1 on
 Ubuntu 14.02
In-Reply-To: <20150619175136.3b14e7ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20150619165915.027da50a@janhh4.site>
 <20150619171403.2cb88e21@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150619172903.26690b9b@janhh4.site>
 <20150619175136.3b14e7ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20150619170135.496cca80@kujata>

On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 17:51:36 +0200
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote: 

> If you have gnome-keyring installed S/Mime will never work with
> claws-mail.

Why do you say that? I have gnome-keyring installed and I can verify
s/mime sigs.

with regards

Paul


From jan at willamowius.de  Fri Jun 19 18:02:49 2015
From: jan at willamowius.de (Jan Willamowius)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:02:49 +0200
Subject: [Users] Can't check S/Mime signatures with Claws 3.11.1 on
 Ubuntu 14.02
In-Reply-To: <20150619175136.3b14e7ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20150619165915.027da50a@janhh4.site>
 <20150619171403.2cb88e21@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150619172903.26690b9b@janhh4.site>
 <20150619175136.3b14e7ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20150619180249.26a7162b@janhh4.site>

Hi Michael,

Michael Rasmussen wrote:
> If you have gnome-keyring installed S/Mime will never work with
> claws-mail.

Could you please elaborate on this ? The gnome-keyring package is
required by a lot of Ubuntu packages, including the desktop. Its
virtually impossible to remove it without loosing the GUI.

What makes the gnome-keyring incompatible with Claws S/Mime plugin ?


> A quick test which will show whether GnuPG and gpg-agent is configured
> correct and will work with claws-mail is to install gpa (Gnu Privacy
> Admin) and see if it complains. If it doesn't GnuPG should work with
> claws-mail.

gpa starts fine and doesn't complain...


Regards,
Jan

-- 
Jan Willamowius, jan at willamowius.de, http://www.willamowius.de/


From mir at miras.org  Fri Jun 19 18:05:20 2015
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:05:20 +0200
Subject: [Users] Can't check S/Mime signatures with Claws 3.11.1 on
 Ubuntu 14.02
In-Reply-To: <20150619170135.496cca80@kujata>
References: <20150619165915.027da50a@janhh4.site>
 <20150619171403.2cb88e21@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150619172903.26690b9b@janhh4.site>
 <20150619175136.3b14e7ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150619170135.496cca80@kujata>
Message-ID: <20150619180520.4e8610e8@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 17:01:35 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 17:51:36 +0200
> Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote: 
> 
> > If you have gnome-keyring installed S/Mime will never work with
> > claws-mail.
> 
> Why do you say that? I have gnome-keyring installed and I can verify
> s/mime sigs.
> 
I have never been able to have S/Mime verification work in
claws-mail when gnome-keyring was installed. Maybe this is related to
if you have a desktop which starts gnome services.

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917
--------------------------------------------------------------
/usr/games/fortune -es says:
If only God would give me some clear sign!  Like making a large deposit
in my name at a Swiss bank.
		-- Woody Allen, "Without Feathers"
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From mir at miras.org  Fri Jun 19 18:06:20 2015
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:06:20 +0200
Subject: [Users] Can't check S/Mime signatures with Claws 3.11.1 on
 Ubuntu 14.02
In-Reply-To: <20150619180249.26a7162b@janhh4.site>
References: <20150619165915.027da50a@janhh4.site>
 <20150619171403.2cb88e21@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150619172903.26690b9b@janhh4.site>
 <20150619175136.3b14e7ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150619180249.26a7162b@janhh4.site>
Message-ID: <20150619180620.03ed7130@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:02:49 +0200
Jan Willamowius <jan at willamowius.de> wrote:

> 
> gpa starts fine and doesn't complain...
> 
But do you see any keys?

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917
--------------------------------------------------------------
/usr/games/fortune -es says:
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of an expanding
bureaucracy.
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From mir at miras.org  Fri Jun 19 18:08:51 2015
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:08:51 +0200
Subject: [Users] Can't check S/Mime signatures with Claws 3.11.1 on
 Ubuntu 14.02
In-Reply-To: <20150619180249.26a7162b@janhh4.site>
References: <20150619165915.027da50a@janhh4.site>
 <20150619171403.2cb88e21@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150619172903.26690b9b@janhh4.site>
 <20150619175136.3b14e7ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150619180249.26a7162b@janhh4.site>
Message-ID: <20150619180851.3a6f361c@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:02:49 +0200
Jan Willamowius <jan at willamowius.de> wrote:

> 
> What makes the gnome-keyring incompatible with Claws S/Mime plugin ?
> 
gnome-keyring starts services for GPG, SSH etc which shadows gpg-agent.
Claws-mail needs the gpg-agent versions of the services and not the
gnome-keyring counter parts.

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917
--------------------------------------------------------------
/usr/games/fortune -es says:
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of an expanding
bureaucracy.
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From jan at willamowius.de  Fri Jun 19 18:08:56 2015
From: jan at willamowius.de (Jan Willamowius)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:08:56 +0200
Subject: [Users] Can't check S/Mime signatures with Claws 3.11.1 on
 Ubuntu 14.02
In-Reply-To: <20150619180620.03ed7130@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20150619165915.027da50a@janhh4.site>
 <20150619171403.2cb88e21@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150619172903.26690b9b@janhh4.site>
 <20150619175136.3b14e7ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150619180249.26a7162b@janhh4.site>
 <20150619180620.03ed7130@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20150619180856.757ec808@janhh4.site>

Michael Rasmussen wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:02:49 +0200
> Jan Willamowius <jan at willamowius.de> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > gpa starts fine and doesn't complain...
> > 
> But do you see any keys?

Yes, I see lots of keys, including my own.

Jan

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From mir at miras.org  Fri Jun 19 18:12:25 2015
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:12:25 +0200
Subject: [Users] Can't check S/Mime signatures with Claws 3.11.1 on
 Ubuntu 14.02
In-Reply-To: <20150619180851.3a6f361c@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20150619165915.027da50a@janhh4.site>
 <20150619171403.2cb88e21@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150619172903.26690b9b@janhh4.site>
 <20150619175136.3b14e7ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150619180249.26a7162b@janhh4.site>
 <20150619180851.3a6f361c@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20150619181225.1887d77b@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:08:51 +0200
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:02:49 +0200
> Jan Willamowius <jan at willamowius.de> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > What makes the gnome-keyring incompatible with Claws S/Mime plugin ?
> > 
> gnome-keyring starts services for GPG, SSH etc which shadows gpg-agent.
> Claws-mail needs the gpg-agent versions of the services and not the
> gnome-keyring counter parts.
> 
When gnome-keyring is installed this is what I see when I start gpa:



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Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
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From jan at willamowius.de  Fri Jun 19 18:26:36 2015
From: jan at willamowius.de (Jan Willamowius)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:26:36 +0200
Subject: [Users] Can't check S/Mime signatures with Claws 3.11.1 on
 Ubuntu 14.02
In-Reply-To: <20150619181225.1887d77b@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20150619165915.027da50a@janhh4.site>
 <20150619171403.2cb88e21@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150619172903.26690b9b@janhh4.site>
 <20150619175136.3b14e7ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150619180249.26a7162b@janhh4.site>
 <20150619180851.3a6f361c@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150619181225.1887d77b@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20150619182636.48c4a217@janhh4.site>

Michael Rasmussen wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:08:51 +0200
> Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:02:49 +0200
> > Jan Willamowius <jan at willamowius.de> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > What makes the gnome-keyring incompatible with Claws S/Mime plugin ?
> > > 
> > gnome-keyring starts services for GPG, SSH etc which shadows gpg-agent.
> > Claws-mail needs the gpg-agent versions of the services and not the
> > gnome-keyring counter parts.
> > 
> When gnome-keyring is installed this is what I see when I start gpa:
> 
> [image]

I don't see such an error message and I see all keys. Still no luck
with S/Mime signatures in Claws.

I have running one gpg-agent process. What other interfering processes
should I be looking for ? I see a polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1
process.

Shouldn't there be a way to select / configure the 'correct' agent for
Claws ?

Regards,
Jan

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jun 20 04:33:28 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 02:33:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3443] New: abnormal behaviour when an open message is
	deleted
Message-ID: <bug-3443-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3443

            Bug ID: 3443
           Summary: abnormal behaviour when an open message is deleted
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.11.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message View
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: anton92 at gmx.ru

When I delete an open message by pressing <del>, I get
the message "Message has been deleted or moved to another folder", and the
message window is not closed.

Naturaly, what I would expect is that, upon deleting the message with <del>,
that window should close automatically.

Moreover, due to this strange behavior another problem is likely to result:
since the focus is silently shifted to the background window, containing the
listing of the messages, the user may keep pressing <del> in the attempt to
make the foreground empty window disappear, or may press <del> more than once,
to make sure that the message was actually delete. All the while, each time
<del> is pressed, a message gets deleted in the background window, unbeknown to
the user.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jun 20 10:27:09 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 08:27:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3443] abnormal behaviour when an open message is
	deleted
In-Reply-To: <bug-3443-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3443-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3443-595-B9gCGVe49N@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3443

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Severity|normal                      |enhancement

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Changing to 'enhancement' as 'not doing what you expect' does not equate to a
bug.

And your second point, the user may keep pressing <del>, but that would be user
error.

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From peterb51 at inbox.com  Sat Jun 20 12:24:45 2015
From: peterb51 at inbox.com (Peter)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 20:24:45 +1000
Subject: [Users] Claws SSL connection problem
In-Reply-To: <5582BE6B.1070302@inbox.com>
References: <5576CDEF.1000002@inbox.com> <5582BE6B.1070302@inbox.com>
Message-ID: <55853F6D.9090206@inbox.com>

Hi,
I hope I'm in the right place for my problem. I've looked at the 
support/documentation available but couldn't find a solution.
I'm having trouble connecting Claws to my email account at inbox.com 
over SSL/TLS.

Claws works OK in/out with the pop port =110 & smtp 25. It doesn't work 
over SSL/TLS. with the settings as per the attached screenshots of  
config tabs.
The account works with the Thunderbird client over SSL/TLS. ports 
995/465. So its not a server connection issue.
The Claws log message in trying to receive is "SSL handshake failed".
In trying to send, it times out (even after extending the wait time).
Also tried StarTTLS option but it just timed out.
I'm keen to use Claws.
Hoping someone can help.

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From mir at miras.org  Sat Jun 20 13:24:39 2015
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 13:24:39 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws SSL connection problem
In-Reply-To: <55853F6D.9090206@inbox.com>
References: <5576CDEF.1000002@inbox.com> <5582BE6B.1070302@inbox.com>
 <55853F6D.9090206@inbox.com>
Message-ID: <20150620132439.4d308386@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 20:24:45 +1000
Peter <peterb51 at inbox.com> wrote:

> I'm having trouble connecting Claws to my email account at inbox.com over SSL/TLS.
> 
What version of claws-mail do you use?

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Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917
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From kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com  Sat Jun 20 15:45:28 2015
From: kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com (Abhay S. Kushwaha)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 19:15:28 +0530
Subject: [Users] Claws SSL connection problem
In-Reply-To: <55853F6D.9090206@inbox.com>
References: <5576CDEF.1000002@inbox.com> <5582BE6B.1070302@inbox.com>
 <55853F6D.9090206@inbox.com>
Message-ID: <20150620191528.00002879@netsolutionsindia.com>

On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 20:24:45 +1000, Peter wrote:

> I'm having trouble connecting Claws to my email account at inbox.com
> over SSL/TLS.

Apparently you're on Windows.

SSL/TLS don't work on Windows for Claws-Mail. The devs know the
problem. They're trying to fix it for the next Windows build. But
there's no guarantee that it will work in that build.



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jun 20 16:13:12 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 14:13:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3443] abnormal behaviour when an open message is
	deleted
In-Reply-To: <bug-3443-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3443-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3443-595-dHkMu0XU5a@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3443

--- Comment #2 from anton92 at gmx.ru ---
What I expect, in this case, is the standard behavior of practically all email
programs: if an email gets deleted,the window is also closed automatically?

May I ask what is the benefit of keeping the window open and of displaying that
message telling you that your email message has been deleted?!?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jun 20 22:43:04 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 20:43:04 -0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2816] LDAP addressbook search crashes Claws Mail
In-Reply-To: <bug-2816-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2816-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2816-595-WPY3vhbWzT@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2816

--- Comment #10 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2015-06-20 22:43:02.230611345 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=022303efd6fe6f6ec08c89affa9c66c61c85994e
Merge: c02430a 72a9c0b
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Sat Jun 20 22:43:01 2015 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=72a9c0b46adc467c6ceacc608bceff52c19950dd
Author: Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Sat Jun 20 22:38:53 2015 +0200

    Do not free LDAP error string on Windows.

    Fixes bug #2816 - LDAP addressbook search crashes Claws Mail.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jun 20 23:07:03 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 21:07:03 -0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2827] Feature request: Add TLS/SSL support for LDAP
 server access
In-Reply-To: <bug-2827-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2827-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2827-595-XAmuyW6PW4@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2827

--- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2015-06-20 23:07:02.243024410 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=e6c527f1b5ace017c6e7192e57b40a688ef0baf7
Merge: 022303e 8ae2860
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Sat Jun 20 23:07:01 2015 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ae2860c5457214ab955f1783bd67a8f61e6823e
Author: Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Sat Jun 20 23:03:50 2015 +0200

    Allow TLS connections to LDAP on Windows.

    The comment no longer applies, TLS seems to work fine for LDAP
    connections on Windows. Closes bug #2827 - Feature request: Add
    TLS/SSL support for LDAP server access

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 21 16:56:20 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:56:20 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3444] New: Feature Request: Add ability to override
 X-Mailer / Useragent
Message-ID: <bug-3444-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3444

            Bug ID: 3444
           Summary: Feature Request: Add ability to override X-Mailer /
                    Useragent
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: clawsuser at yopmail.com

In Mozilla Thunderbird it is possible to override the X-Mailer/Useragent of the
e-mail client via about:config...

general.useragent.enable_overrides;true
general.useragent.override;(Whatever useragent you want goes here
e.g.Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.2; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/38.0)

This is useful for testing as well as privacy and fingerprinting.

There should be an option in the user-interface to do this with ClawsMail as
well.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 21 17:08:31 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 15:08:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3445] New: Feature Request: Ability to enable gpg
 "--no-version"
Message-ID: <bug-3445-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3445

            Bug ID: 3445
           Summary: Feature Request: Ability to enable gpg "--no-version"
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Privacy
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: clawsuser at yopmail.com

In Thunderbird's Engimail it is possible to set --no-version:
extensions.enigmail.agentAdditionalParam;--no-version

This feature is useful for privacy since the GPG headers can determine GPG
version, Linux kernel version, and other revealing meta-data. 

A simple checkbox or ability to add custom parameters to be passed to the GPG
binary from the UI will fix this issue.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 21 17:09:54 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 15:09:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3444] Feature Request: Add ability to override
 X-Mailer / Useragent
In-Reply-To: <bug-3444-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3444-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3444-595-TtjHshiBAx@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3444

--- Comment #1 from Albert ARIBAUD <albert.aribaud at free.fr> ---
I think this is already possible:
- Go in the account preferences and select the "send" tab
- Uncheck the "Add user agent header" box
- Check the "Add user-defined header" box
- Click the "Edit" button
- Add "User-Agent" with whatever value you see fit.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 21 17:22:07 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 15:22:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3444] Feature Request: Add ability to override
 X-Mailer / Useragent
In-Reply-To: <bug-3444-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3444-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3444-595-JxTfSRkITV@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3444

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #2 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
comment #1 is correct.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 21 17:23:07 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 15:23:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3445] Feature Request: Ability to enable gpg
	"--no-version"
In-Reply-To: <bug-3445-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3445-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3445-595-NnDZ4rzS7W@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3445

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Just do that in your gpg.conf.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun 22 13:50:39 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 11:50:39 -0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1901] More descriptive error msgs when attempting to
 delete a folder.
In-Reply-To: <bug-1901-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1901-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1901-595-PM9UhGLnnD@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1901

--- Comment #3 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2015-06-22 13:50:38.068947269 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=b07c2b6071f789c1e3d2f93e494a6c47b030bb8a
Merge: 24d7e11 568eed6
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Mon Jun 22 13:50:02 2015 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=568eed69504b569c89ac8a55d673d2ee212b3da4
Author: Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
Date:   Mon Jun 22 13:46:09 2015 +0200

    Fix incorrect HTML preventing label from appearing

    Error on console under Spanish locales was:

    sys:1: GtkWarning: Failed to set text from markup due to error parsing
    markup: Error en la línea 1, carácter 155: Se cerró el elemento «a»,
    pero el elemento que está abierto actualmente es «span»

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=8aa14edcbfddf3d152eb4b9ac78d24629194fed1
Author: Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
Date:   Fri May 29 12:20:12 2015 +0200

    Fix bug #1901 ‘More descriptive error msgs when attempting to delete a
folder’

    Original patch by Paweł Pękala; added additional info on some
    g_warning calls and removed trailing '
' as they're already
    appended by glib's default handler.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun 22 13:53:35 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 11:53:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1901] More descriptive error msgs when attempting to
 delete a folder.
In-Reply-To: <bug-1901-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1901-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1901-595-EUJ9FR1M9g@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1901

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #4 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
Thanks Pawel!

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun 22 14:34:34 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 12:34:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3394] Cannot mass mark folders as read
In-Reply-To: <bug-3394-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3394-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3394-595-x630Oyz1ok@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3394

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

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         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

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Not exactly a duplicate of #1941 but almost.

Fixed also in http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commit;h=fed3e19e

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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Mon Jun 22 14:47:47 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:47:47 +0200
Subject: [Users] [solved] [Bug 3425] New: [feature request] open multiple
 editor windows dialog
In-Reply-To: <bug-3425-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3425-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20150622144747.70e6a126@archlinux>

On Thu, 07 May 2015 14:53:51 +0000, noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:
>http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3425
>
>sometimes I mark several mails to delete them and if I release the
>mouse button by accident to fast in the right click menu, those mails
>get opened in the editor window, because the mouse cursor was in the
>wrong line of the menu.
>
>It would be nice, if a dialog window would open, if a huge number of
>mails is selected to be opened and ask if it they should be opened.
>
>Version: 3.11.1.r86.g4b21af3

Version : 3.11.1.r124.gfbd6608-1

"You are about to reply to 12 messages. Opening the windows could take
some time. Do you want to continue?"

Thank you for this new feature :).

Ralf



From richardkimber at btinternet.com  Mon Jun 22 15:14:25 2015
From: richardkimber at btinternet.com (R Kimber)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:14:25 +0100
Subject: [Users] Two small issues
Message-ID: <5581B3DE00BCFA57@rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk> (added by
 postmaster@btinternet.com)

Hi:

I have just replied to an email and then moved it to another folder.  I
notice that the replied icon disappeared on moving the message. Is this a
known issue?

Another small issue is that checking the "show all headers" box doesn't
consistently do that in all circumstances, though I haven't yet worked out
how to reproduce this.  My PC was on overnight and the box had
presumably been left checked from some activity yesterday, and I found today
that some posts were shown with headers and some were not.  Odd.

- Richard.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun 22 15:22:42 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 13:22:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3425] [feature request] open multiple editor windows
	dialog
In-Reply-To: <bug-3425-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3425-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3425-595-QCfbZaOlhq@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3425

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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This is already the case, since May 2006.

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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Mon Jun 22 15:56:29 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:56:29 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3425] [feature request] open multiple editor
 windows dialog
In-Reply-To: <bug-3425-595-QCfbZaOlhq@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3425-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3425-595-QCfbZaOlhq@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20150622155629.2bf6bc94@archlinux>

I reply to the list, instead of the bug tracker, since it's not an
important issue. 

On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 13:22:42 +0000, noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:
>http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3425
>This is already the case, since May 2006.

Ok, I tested it now. It works for >= 10 mails and <= 9 mails are
opened without request. The problem is not the time it takes to open
the mails, it's annoying to close many mails. However, since it never
will be more than 10 mails, it's ok, I just worried about an endless
amount of mails. It would be nice if a user could edit how many mails
could be opened without request, but I can live without such an option.



From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Mon Jun 22 16:07:18 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:07:18 +0200
Subject: [Users] Two small issues
In-Reply-To: <5581B3DE00BCFA57@rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
References: <5581B3DE00BCFA57@rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20150622160718.1e1a67f9@archlinux>

On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:14:25 +0100, R Kimber wrote:
>I have just replied to an email and then moved it to another folder.  I
>notice that the replied icon disappeared on moving the message. Is
>this a known issue?

It's not an issue for 3.11.1-124-gfbd6608 and POP accounts, but I
noticed that a while back Claws started not to use all needed
icons. IIRC Claws doesn't display the "Replied and Forwarded" icon or
similar anymore, I can't find such a mail now, so perhaps it's another
icon. AFAIK the icon theme wasn't updated.


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Mon Jun 22 16:11:27 2015
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:11:27 +0200
Subject: [Users] [solved] [Bug 3425] New: [feature request] open
 multiple editor windows dialog
In-Reply-To: <20150622144747.70e6a126@archlinux>
References: <bug-3425-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <20150622144747.70e6a126@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20150622161127.0ec1d90c@mirrors.kernel.org>

How about this:

Version : 3.4.1.r001.gfbd77210-1
 
"You are about to reply to 233 messages. You can craft now one reply, to all of them, with a total of 160 characters. Choose your words carefully."

Much easier, no ?

Just a joke :)

Anyway, i can't quite imagine who wants to open 10 reply windows at a time. If you're gonna send mass mails, then probably there's better ways (though i don't know if claws provides them, well, i f i were 'claws' then i won't, to prevent misuse.)



From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Mon Jun 22 17:27:29 2015
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:27:29 -0700
Subject: [Users] Missiing spelling
Message-ID: <20150622082729.6d41f8f9@frogguski.911networks.com>

Hi,

CM 3.11.1 on xUbuntu. I have moved the CM data from one computer to
another and now I'm missing the spelling.

I have compile CM myselft and Enchant is installed. What else should I
look into?

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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Mon Jun 22 17:33:36 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:33:36 +0200
Subject: [Users] [solved] [Bug 3425] New: [feature request] open
 multiple editor windows dialog
In-Reply-To: <20150622161127.0ec1d90c@mirrors.kernel.org>
References: <bug-3425-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <20150622144747.70e6a126@archlinux>
 <20150622161127.0ec1d90c@mirrors.kernel.org>
Message-ID: <20150622173336.0b034674@archlinux>

On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:11:27 +0200, Michael wrote:
>Anyway, i can't quite imagine who wants to open 10 reply windows at a
>time. If you're gonna send mass mails, then probably there's better
>ways (though i don't know if claws provides them, well, i f i were
>'claws' then i won't, to prevent misuse.)

The issue is that I perhaps want to delete 9 mails.
I right click to delete them, but two things could happen.
1. by accident I release the key to early or 2. the mouse button is not
ok and so instead of "delete" another option is chosen, e.g. "Reply" or
"Forward", so by accident 9 mails get opened. Assumed it would be
possible, I would limit it to 2 mail instead of keeping the default of 9
mails. However, as long as I don't need to close hundreds of mails
it's ok. Closing 9 mails isn't a pleasure, but it's still ok. Perhaps
adding a feature to decrease or increase the default of 9 mails is a
bad idea, since there might be other things too that are less important
and just a few users want to have an option provided by the preferences
and we would end up with hundreds of preference option nearly nobody
does need, if a developer starts to add each option that is useful for
just a few users.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun 22 17:49:05 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:49:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3446] New: bsfilter hangs Claws Mail with AVG Free
 Antivirus 2015
Message-ID: <bug-3446-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3446

            Bug ID: 3446
           Summary: bsfilter hangs Claws Mail with AVG Free Antivirus 2015
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 8
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: p.gunnarsson at yahoo.com

Hello!

I tried to set up Claws Mail with AVG free antivirus on my mothers computer.
At first, Claws Mail got stuck and I saw some error related to
bsfilterw.exe in the network log, but after disabling the bsfilter plugin
things seemed to
work again.

I have mailed AVG about it too, but they still have not replied. My
mothers box was an AMD64 with Windows 8.

Regards,

Per Gunnarsson

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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Mon Jun 22 18:00:52 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:00:52 +0200
Subject: [Users] Missiing spelling
In-Reply-To: <20150622082729.6d41f8f9@frogguski.911networks.com>
References: <20150622082729.6d41f8f9@frogguski.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20150622180052.4f250c9f@archlinux>

On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:27:29 -0700, sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:
>I have compile CM myselft and Enchant is installed. What else should I
>look into?

Are the hunspell dictionaries you want to use installed?
E.g. hunspell-en?



From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Mon Jun 22 18:11:54 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:11:54 +0200
Subject: [Users] Missiing spelling
In-Reply-To: <20150622180052.4f250c9f@archlinux>
References: <20150622082729.6d41f8f9@frogguski.911networks.com>
 <20150622180052.4f250c9f@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20150622181154.04308434@archlinux>

On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:00:52 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:27:29 -0700, sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:
>>I have compile CM myselft and Enchant is installed. What else should I
>>look into?
>
>Are the hunspell dictionaries you want to use installed?
>E.g. hunspell-en?

PS: Did you add --enable-enchant to the configure options?

./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-enchant


From mir at miras.org  Mon Jun 22 19:09:50 2015
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 19:09:50 +0200
Subject: [Users] Missiing spelling
In-Reply-To: <20150622181154.04308434@archlinux>
References: <20150622082729.6d41f8f9@frogguski.911networks.com>
 <20150622180052.4f250c9f@archlinux>
 <20150622181154.04308434@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20150622190950.14104356@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:11:54 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> 
> PS: Did you add --enable-enchant to the configure options?
> 
> ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-enchant

If the required development libraries are available the option is
automatically enabled.

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From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Mon Jun 22 19:27:46 2015
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 10:27:46 -0700
Subject: [Users] [Solved] Missiing spelling
In-Reply-To: <20150622082729.6d41f8f9@frogguski.911networks.com>
References: <20150622082729.6d41f8f9@frogguski.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20150622102746.5f682a8b@frogguski.911networks.com>

On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:27:29 -0700
sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:

>CM 3.11.1 on xUbuntu. I have moved the CM data from one computer to
>another and now I'm missing the spelling.
>
>I have compile CM myselft and Enchant is installed. What else should
>I look into?

Enchant was installed but I was missing: libenchant-dev. Now it's
working

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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Mon Jun 22 20:44:48 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 20:44:48 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Solved] Missiing spelling
In-Reply-To: <20150622102746.5f682a8b@frogguski.911networks.com>
References: <20150622082729.6d41f8f9@frogguski.911networks.com>
 <20150622102746.5f682a8b@frogguski.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20150622204448.15e262df@archlinux>

On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 10:27:46 -0700, sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:
>Enchant was installed but I was missing: libenchant-dev. Now it's
>working

Some distros don't split packages in binaries and headers packages :p.
Arch Linux comes into mind.


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Mon Jun 22 22:12:27 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:12:27 +0200
Subject: [Users] Two small issues
In-Reply-To: <5581B3DE00BCFA57@rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
References: <5581B3DE00BCFA57@rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20150622221227.728e2915@archlinux>

On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:14:25 +0100, R Kimber wrote:
>Another small issue is that checking the "show all headers" box doesn't
>consistently do that in all circumstances, though I haven't yet worked
>out how to reproduce this.

Same here, I wasn't aware about it, but after a few tests I experience
the same.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun 23 00:22:00 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 23:22:00 +0100
Subject: [Users] Two small issues
In-Reply-To: <20150622221227.728e2915@archlinux>
References: <5581B3DE00BCFA57@rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
 <20150622221227.728e2915@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20150622232200.6b344b5d@kujata>

On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:12:27 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 

> Same here, I wasn't aware about it, but after a few tests I
> experience the same.

How are you achieving this?

with regards

Paul


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun 23 02:14:57 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 00:14:57 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3438] Filter to add address to Addressbook duplicates
 address in Name field
In-Reply-To: <bug-3438-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3438-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3438-595-UbBitWwbYU@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3438

--- Comment #2 from Technical Support <bugzilla-claws-ok at oo.net> ---
Thanks for responding so quickly!

I downloaded claws-mail from the xubuntu repository a couple of weeks ago and
promptly started moving everyone onto it. I've had a lot of questions, easily
answered. A handful of minor problems that I've devised workarounds for. Claws
makes this easy :-)

Installing a patch shouldn't be difficult, though I'd rather just pull software
from a ppa. This weekend was fiddly computer problems till five in the morning.
I'm running behind and can hardly think. . . .

Will a fix quietly appear in the next release of claws-mail or do you really
need me to test it for you?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun 23 02:20:52 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 00:20:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3440] Filter on sending mail
In-Reply-To: <bug-3440-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3440-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3440-595-kDJgWyoxvs@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3440

--- Comment #2 from Technical Support <bugzilla-claws-ok at oo.net> ---
Obviously, incoming mail is the greater need. Outgoing filtering is useful for
selectively filing sent messages, collecting email addresses after send (but no
receive), disabling reminders to send mail, etc. Does this make sense? It isn't
a top priority, but it can be handy.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun 23 02:22:37 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 00:22:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3441] Filter - "Save As" option
In-Reply-To: <bug-3441-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3441-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3441-595-bHa7q7HaIp@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3441

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         Resolution|INVALID                     |FIXED

--- Comment #2 from Technical Support <bugzilla-claws-ok at oo.net> ---
Thanks. I don't know how I didn't see it. Execute. Works perfectly!

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun 23 03:46:21 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 01:46:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3442] Fancy plugin for composing outgoing mail
In-Reply-To: <bug-3442-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3442-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3442-595-68WHAHZoK6@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3442

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         Resolution|WONTFIX                     |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #3 from Technical Support <bugzilla-claws-ok at oo.net> ---
Thanks for your replies.

If you are saying that you don't want to bloat claws-mail with pretty rubbish
like html, I completely agree with you! I would rather leave claws-mail as it
is than have it become more cumbersome.

Fancy is a great solution for incoming mail. I think the outgoing solution
could be even simpler - and would satisfy the main remaining complaint I've
heard and read about claws-mail.

I have workarounds for the problem (using either geary or LibreOffice), so it
really isn't critical. I can think of a number of small enhancements to
claws-mail that would make the (scripted) workarounds even better. A plugin
might be best.

The question wasn't really about html, but versatility. This is claws-mail's
strength!

I can think of a number of minor enhancements to claws-mail that would make
integration with geary (or a small smtp-only extraction of geary) more
transparent and elegant. Just for when someone wants it.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun 23 10:04:29 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:04:29 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3441] Filter - "Save As" option
In-Reply-To: <bug-3441-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3441-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3441-595-sc9jL8MJVr@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3441

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|VERIFIED                    |RESOLVED
         Resolution|FIXED                       |INVALID

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun 23 10:05:38 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:05:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3442] Fancy plugin for composing outgoing mail
In-Reply-To: <bug-3442-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3442-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3442-595-9Vc0BOeCe9@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3442

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             Status|VERIFIED                    |RESOLVED
         Resolution|WORKSFORME                  |WONTFIX

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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Tue Jun 23 10:15:15 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:15:15 +0200
Subject: [Users] Two small issues
In-Reply-To: <20150622232200.6b344b5d@kujata>
References: <5581B3DE00BCFA57@rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
 <20150622221227.728e2915@archlinux>
 <20150622232200.6b344b5d@kujata>
Message-ID: <20150623101515.74179e10@archlinux>

On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 23:22:00 +0100, Paul wrote:
>On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:12:27 +0200
>Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 
>
>> Same here, I wasn't aware about it, but after a few tests I
>> experience the same.
>
>How are you achieving this?

If I check "Show all headers", sometimes all headers are shown and
sometimes just a few headers are shown. I noticed this yesterday, since
usually I take a look at the message source, if I need the headers.
I don't do something unusual, I read emails without opening the emails,
IOW I read them in the preview window or what ever it's called and
while doing this I check and uncheck "Show all headers" by the View
menu, not by shortcut.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun 23 10:16:55 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:16:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3438] Filter to add address to Addressbook duplicates
 address in Name field
In-Reply-To: <bug-3438-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3438-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3438-595-S8djVIwhc4@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3438

--- Comment #3 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
Will be included. I've asked just in case it was causing some trouble, bit If
you don't mind to wait, I have no hurry either :)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun 23 10:16:55 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:16:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3438] Filter to add address to Addressbook duplicates
 address in Name field
In-Reply-To: <bug-3438-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3438-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3438-595-ghHuWSS6cX@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3438

--- Comment #4 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2015-06-23 10:18:02.871713744 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=e886a80f672adff35c108f9ab49dbe41c2d216fb
Merge: 05697fe 7fca97d
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Tue Jun 23 10:18:02 2015 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=7fca97dcd169e49e0b6f9530153714c290c90119
Author: Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
Date:   Mon Jun 22 22:56:44 2015 +0200

    Fix bug #3438 ‘Filter to add address to Addressbook duplicates address in
Name field’

    Also included some cleanup:
      • Remove unused function strlen_with_check
      • Remove unused macro STRLEN_WITH_CHECK
      • Update copyright header

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From andrej at kacian.sk  Tue Jun 23 10:26:10 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:26:10 +0200
Subject: [Users] Two small issues
In-Reply-To: <20150623101515.74179e10@archlinux>
References: <5581B3DE00BCFA57@rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
 <20150622221227.728e2915@archlinux>
 <20150622232200.6b344b5d@kujata>
 <20150623101515.74179e10@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20150623102610.58e556ed@hiker>

On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:15:15 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> If I check "Show all headers", sometimes all headers are shown and
> sometimes just a few headers are shown. I noticed this yesterday,
> since usually I take a look at the message source, if I need the
> headers. I don't do something unusual, I read emails without opening
> the emails, IOW I read them in the preview window or what ever it's
> called and while doing this I check and uncheck "Show all headers" by
> the View menu, not by shortcut.

Hi,

I just spent about five minutes clicking and moving around various
folders and displaying lot of messages with "Show all headers" enabled,
and couldn't reproduce the issue you describe, so there has to be
something more to what you are doing.

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun 23 10:27:56 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:27:56 +0100
Subject: [Users] Two small issues
In-Reply-To: <5581B3DE00BCFA57@rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
References: <5581B3DE00BCFA57@rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20150623092756.2e9bf21e@kujata>

On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:14:25 +0100
R Kimber <richardkimber at btinternet.com> wrote: 

> I have just replied to an email and then moved it to another
> folder.  I notice that the replied icon disappeared on moving the
> message. Is this a known issue?
> 
> Another small issue is that checking the "show all headers" box
> doesn't consistently do that in all circumstances, though I haven't
> yet worked out how to reproduce this.  My PC was on overnight and
> the box had presumably been left checked from some activity
> yesterday, and I found today that some posts were shown with
> headers and some were not.  Odd.

If you can provide detailed steps on how to reproduce these, then
please do. I have no such problems here.

with regards

Paul


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Tue Jun 23 11:52:02 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:52:02 +0200
Subject: [Users] Configure options - Was: Missiing spelling
In-Reply-To: <20150622190950.14104356@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20150622082729.6d41f8f9@frogguski.911networks.com>
 <20150622180052.4f250c9f@archlinux>
 <20150622181154.04308434@archlinux>
 <20150622190950.14104356@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20150623115202.097474a6@archlinux>

On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 19:09:50 +0200, Michael Rasmussen wrote:
>On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:11:54 +0200
>Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 
>> PS: Did you add --enable-enchant to the configure options?
>> 
>> ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-enchant
>
>If the required development libraries are available the option is
>automatically enabled.

Several configure options seems to be obsolet. I flagged an
Arch Linux PKGBUILD out-of-date (2015-06-23) [1]. For those using Arch
Linux, it's not available by AUR4 and the ABS PKGBUILD also uses those
configure options, but not for building current master from git.

Regards,
Ralf

[1]
"Comment by Ralf_Mardorf

2015-06-23 09:41

The disable and enable configure options cause command not found errors.
While updating the configure options, please consider to add
# --build=$(uname -m)-arch-linux-gnu , it doesn't hurt when it's
commented out. There are reasons not to change CHOST."
-https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/claws-mail-git/


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun 23 11:52:34 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:52:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3440] Filter on sending mail
In-Reply-To: <bug-3440-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3440-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3440-595-oXZGoaznqD@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3440

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You can set up Processing rules on your Sent folder.

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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Tue Jun 23 13:29:03 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:29:03 +0200
Subject: [Users] Configure options - Was: Missiing spelling
In-Reply-To: <20150623115202.097474a6@archlinux>
References: <20150622082729.6d41f8f9@frogguski.911networks.com>
 <20150622180052.4f250c9f@archlinux>
 <20150622181154.04308434@archlinux>
 <20150622190950.14104356@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150623115202.097474a6@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20150623132903.7d746b02@archlinux>

>Several configure options seem to be obsolet.

Oops, seemingly they still can be used.

However, Michael already pointed out --enable-enchant isn't needed,
it's enabled automatically. Are any of the following options
also unneeded:

Arch Linux AUR 3 claws-mail-git

./configure --disable-maintainer-mode \
            --prefix=/usr \
            --disable-static \
            --enable-silent-rules \
            --disable-jpilot \
            --enable-enchant \
            --enable-gnutls \
            --enable-ldap \
            --enable-crash-dialog \
            --enable-pgpmime-plugin \
            --enable-spamassassin-plugin \
            --enable-bogofilter-plugin \

Arch Linux ABS claws-mail

./configure --prefix=/usr --disable-static \
            --enable-enchant \
            --enable-gnutls \
            --enable-ldap \
            --enable-crash-dialog \
            --enable-pgpmime-plugin \
            --enable-spamassassin-plugin \
            --enable-bogofilter-plugin \
            --enable-appdata

JFTR is it recommended to add --enable-new-addrbook ? I always build
without.

TIA,
Ralf


From andrej at kacian.sk  Tue Jun 23 13:35:55 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:35:55 +0200
Subject: [Users] Configure options - Was: Missiing spelling
In-Reply-To: <20150623132903.7d746b02@archlinux>
References: <20150622082729.6d41f8f9@frogguski.911networks.com>
 <20150622180052.4f250c9f@archlinux>
 <20150622181154.04308434@archlinux>
 <20150622190950.14104356@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150623115202.097474a6@archlinux>
 <20150623132903.7d746b02@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20150623133555.17ed10b9@hiker>

On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:29:03 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> However, Michael already pointed out --enable-enchant isn't needed,
> it's enabled automatically. Are any of the following options
> also unneeded:

They are unneeded if you don't need them. I'm not entirely sure what you
are trying to achieve here.

Regards,
-- 
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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Tue Jun 23 13:46:01 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:46:01 +0200
Subject: [Users] Configure options - Was: Missiing spelling
In-Reply-To: <20150623133555.17ed10b9@hiker>
References: <20150622082729.6d41f8f9@frogguski.911networks.com>
 <20150622180052.4f250c9f@archlinux>
 <20150622181154.04308434@archlinux>
 <20150622190950.14104356@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150623115202.097474a6@archlinux>
 <20150623132903.7d746b02@archlinux> <20150623133555.17ed10b9@hiker>
Message-ID: <20150623134601.10b9b2a3@archlinux>

On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:35:55 +0200, Andrej Kacian wrote:
>On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:29:03 +0200
>Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
>> However, Michael already pointed out --enable-enchant isn't needed,
>> it's enabled automatically. Are any of the following options
>> also unneeded:
>
>They are unneeded if you don't need them. I'm not entirely sure what
>you are trying to achieve here.

I want to know, what configure options I need to add, if I want to
enable/disable those options. Michael claimed that it's not needed to
add --enable-enchant to enable it [2]. So is it needed to add any of the
other options [1] to configure, to enable/disable them, assumed all
build dependencies are installed, those for the enabled and disabled
options. Build dependencies for disabled things might be installed for
other applications.

Regards,
Ralf

[1]
http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2015-June/013317.html

[2]
Begin forwarded message:

Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 19:09:50 +0200
From: Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org>
To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Subject: Re: [Users] Missiing spelling


On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:11:54 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> 
> PS: Did you add --enable-enchant to the configure options?
> 
> ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-enchant

If the required development libraries are available the option is
automatically enabled.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun 23 14:02:53 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:02:53 +0100
Subject: [Users] Configure options - Was: Missiing spelling
In-Reply-To: <20150623134601.10b9b2a3@archlinux>
References: <20150622082729.6d41f8f9@frogguski.911networks.com>
 <20150622180052.4f250c9f@archlinux>
 <20150622181154.04308434@archlinux>
 <20150622190950.14104356@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150623115202.097474a6@archlinux>
 <20150623132903.7d746b02@archlinux> <20150623133555.17ed10b9@hiker>
 <20150623134601.10b9b2a3@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20150623130253.567fadd0@kujata>

Ralf,

Just run ./configure and look at the info given at the end.
Or look through configure.ac.

regards

Paul


From linux at slavino.sk  Tue Jun 23 18:53:30 2015
From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:53:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] RSSyl and items deletion
Message-ID: <20150623185330.7f718ddc@bonifac>

Hi all,

after a lot of time i decided to try the RSSyl plug-in again, to see if
it is usable for me now. When i tried it some years ago, there was
problems with updated items and with deleted item, which are apeared as
new after next update. Now it seems as working as expected, but i meet
with another annoyance - when i delete item, the confirmation dialog
appears and don't matter if i select the "Move to the Trash" (raw
translation) or real "Delete" (i have Del key mapped to Move to trash
menu item).

In emails folders i have confirmation enabled only for real Delete (i
forgot, if it is a default or my setting). And i see, that the RSS
items are not moved to the Trash, then i think, that the setting for
Delete is used.

Please, is here a way to disable this confirmation, but only for RSS
item? I want confirmation, if i accidentally Delete mail (and not move
to the trash), but not for RSS items - i can live with faulty deleted
RSS items ;-)

regards

-- 
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http://slavino.sk
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun 23 20:17:42 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:17:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3447] New: Composition from FreeCompose not entered in
 any textfield
Message-ID: <bug-3447-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3447

            Bug ID: 3447
           Summary: Composition from FreeCompose not entered in any
                    textfield
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.10.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: andreas.kirschner at gmail.com

I am using FreeCompose from https://code.google.com/p/freecompose/ to type
german umlaute e.g. ä or ß on us keyboard layout. This works like a charm
except in claws mail, where my composition is not entered into any textfield. 

Reproduction:
1. Open any Dialog in Claws Mail where plain text can be entered, e.g. mail
composition.
2. Type <compose-key>"a
3. no ä appears, simply no character at all appears.
4. the sequence in general is processed from freecompose, i guess, because the
letters " and a do not appear. Simply the result is somehow suppresed in claws.

I am using Shift-Lock as compose key, but have tried others.

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From mike.miskulin at leadingordersolutions.com  Tue Jun 23 21:02:19 2015
From: mike.miskulin at leadingordersolutions.com (Mike Miskulin)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:02:19 -0400
Subject: [Users] Claws SSL connection problem
In-Reply-To: <20150620191528.00002879@netsolutionsindia.com>
References: <5576CDEF.1000002@inbox.com> <5582BE6B.1070302@inbox.com>
 <55853F6D.9090206@inbox.com> <20150620191528.00002879@netsolutionsindia.com>
Message-ID: <5589AD3B.2080003@leadingordersolutions.com>

I'll preface this with I do not mean to be flip or unappreciative but
Claws on Windows is quite...out of date.  I bounced this same topic in
March and was told there were build environment issues.

The comment below (from someone who seems to be in the know) indicates
that porting the latest to Windows not only is not a priority, but
doesn't seem an after thought either as the SSL issue is quite important.

If the resources are not there, wouldn't it be better to just throw in
the towel on supporting Windows? If the current build is at best going
to be a year behind, that means security issues are likely to be a year
behind too, not a good thing in this day and age.

Again, I'm not trying to whine or be unappreciative of the hard work
people have put on this project (including the windows port) for many
years but sometimes it is just better to end the support than leave it
(and the users) hanging around waiting and hoping for something not
meant to be.


On 6/20/2015 9:45 AM, Abhay S. Kushwaha wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 20:24:45 +1000, Peter wrote:
> 
>> I'm having trouble connecting Claws to my email account at inbox.com
>> over SSL/TLS.
> 
> Apparently you're on Windows.
> 
> SSL/TLS don't work on Windows for Claws-Mail. The devs know the
> problem. They're trying to fix it for the next Windows build. But
> there's no guarantee that it will work in that build.
> 
> 


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun 23 21:22:36 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 20:22:36 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws SSL connection problem
In-Reply-To: <5589AD3B.2080003@leadingordersolutions.com>
References: <5576CDEF.1000002@inbox.com> <5582BE6B.1070302@inbox.com>
 <55853F6D.9090206@inbox.com>
 <20150620191528.00002879@netsolutionsindia.com>
 <5589AD3B.2080003@leadingordersolutions.com>
Message-ID: <20150623202236.67fc7658@kujata>

On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:02:19 -0400
Mike Miskulin <mike.miskulin at leadingordersolutions.com> wrote: 

> The comment below (from someone who seems to be in the know)
> indicates that porting the latest to Windows not only is not a
> priority, but doesn't seem an after thought either as the SSL issue
> is quite important.

Did you miss the bit that said, "They're trying to fix it"??

with regards

Paul


From andrej at kacian.sk  Tue Jun 23 22:02:57 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:02:57 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws SSL connection problem
In-Reply-To: <5589AD3B.2080003@leadingordersolutions.com>
References: <5576CDEF.1000002@inbox.com> <5582BE6B.1070302@inbox.com>
 <55853F6D.9090206@inbox.com>
 <20150620191528.00002879@netsolutionsindia.com>
 <5589AD3B.2080003@leadingordersolutions.com>
Message-ID: <20150623220257.53e80829@penny>

On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:02:19 -0400
Mike Miskulin <mike.miskulin at leadingordersolutions.com> wrote:

> If the resources are not there, wouldn't it be better to just throw in
> the towel on supporting Windows?

Hi, you are completely right, current situation is rather unfortunate.
The main issue for the longest time was that nobody was unable to
actually build the Windows version, let alone do something more about
it, and the person who worked on this in the past unfortunately does not
have much time for Claws Mail lately.

Good news is that in past few weeks, we were able to spend some (too
many, some would say :) ) hours and made good progress. The current plan
is to release an updated Windows build along with next regular release,
in a few weeks. This will include update to almost every component of
the Windows package - Claws Mail, Gnutls, GTK+, Glib among the largest
ones.

So, just be a bit more patient, the release is coming. :)

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Wed Jun 24 00:12:43 2015
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 23:12:43 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws SSL connection problem
In-Reply-To: <20150623220257.53e80829@penny>
References: <5576CDEF.1000002@inbox.com> <5582BE6B.1070302@inbox.com>
 <55853F6D.9090206@inbox.com>
 <20150620191528.00002879@netsolutionsindia.com>
 <5589AD3B.2080003@leadingordersolutions.com>
 <20150623220257.53e80829@penny>
Message-ID: <20150623231243.1c3f6355@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>

On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:02:57 +0200
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> Good news is that in past few weeks, we were able to spend some (too
> many, some would say :) ) hours and made good progress. The current plan
> is to release an updated Windows build along with next regular release,
> in a few weeks. This will include update to almost every component of
> the Windows package - Claws Mail, Gnutls, GTK+, Glib among the largest
> ones.
> 
> So, just be a bit more patient, the release is coming. :)

Brilliant news Andrej, thanks very much to all for the effort expended.

-- 

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                "I am not young enough to know everything"
                                                          Oscar Wilde


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 24 09:28:07 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 07:28:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3447] Composition from FreeCompose not entered in any
	textfield
In-Reply-To: <bug-3447-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3447-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3447-595-GZ3QpYkqXJ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3447

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |LATER

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Claws Mail is using GTK+ library for its user interface, and there is a bug in
GTK+ causing it not to work with FreeCompose. See FreeCompose FAQ:
https://code.google.com/p/freecompose/wiki/FreeComposeFAQ

Next Claws Mail Windows release (coming soon) will have latest 2.24, which has
this bug fixed. I am closing this bug for now, feel free to reopen if the issue
persists with the new release.

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From subscript at free.fr  Wed Jun 24 09:48:39 2015
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 09:48:39 +0200
Subject: [Users] Two small issues
In-Reply-To: <20150623102610.58e556ed@hiker>
References: <5581B3DE00BCFA57@rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
 <20150622221227.728e2915@archlinux>
 <20150622232200.6b344b5d@kujata>
 <20150623101515.74179e10@archlinux> <20150623102610.58e556ed@hiker>
Message-ID: <20150624094839.4953b26e@anthra>

Hello,


On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:26:10 +0200 Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:15:15 +0200
> Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > If I check "Show all headers", sometimes all headers are shown and
> > sometimes just a few headers are shown. I noticed this yesterday,
> > since usually I take a look at the message source, if I need the
> > headers. I don't do something unusual, I read emails without opening
> > the emails, IOW I read them in the preview window or what ever it's
> > called and while doing this I check and uncheck "Show all headers" by
> > the View menu, not by shortcut.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I just spent about five minutes clicking and moving around various
> folders and displaying lot of messages with "Show all headers" enabled,
> and couldn't reproduce the issue you describe, so there has to be
> something more to what you are doing.

I'm using this feature for years and *never* noticed anything wrong
related to it, either!

Any scenario or sample emails to reproduce it maybe?


Regards,

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From peterb51 at inbox.com  Wed Jun 24 10:39:01 2015
From: peterb51 at inbox.com (Peter)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:39:01 +1000
Subject: [Users] Claws SSL connection problem -Thanks for response
In-Reply-To: <5582BE6B.1070302@inbox.com>
References: <5576CDEF.1000002@inbox.com> <5582BE6B.1070302@inbox.com>
Message-ID: <558A6CA5.5050208@inbox.com>

Hi

Thanks to Michael, Mike and Abhay for your responses. Yes I use windows 
7 and the Claws version is 3.9.1.
I now understand that Claws may or may not go forward to make it work 
with windows. I was keen to use Claws because of privacy/security 
features. I will look for an alternative.
It may be worthwhile putting a note on the download site about the 
SSL/TLS  and Windows. It will save your time in having to answer my type 
of query and it helps users avoid some frustration in sorting out the 
connection issue.

Again thanks for your help

Hi,
I hope I'm in the right place for my problem. I've looked at the 
support/documentation available but couldn't find a solution.
I'm having trouble connecting Claws to my email account at inbox.com 
over SSL/TLS.

Claws works OK in/out with the pop port =110 & smtp 25. It doesn't work 
over SSL/TLS. with the settings as per the attached screenshots of  
config tabs.
The account works with the Thunderbird client over SSL/TLS. ports 
995/465. So its not a server connection issue.
The Claws log message in trying to receive is "SSL handshake failed".
In trying to send, it times out (even after extending the wait time).
Also tried StarTTLS option but it just timed out.
I'm keen to use Claws.
Hoping someone can help.

____________________________________________________________
Can't remember your password? Do you need a strong and secure password?
Use Password manager! It stores your passwords & protects your account.
Check it out at http://mysecurelogon.com/password-manager




From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 24 10:46:04 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 09:46:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws SSL connection problem -Thanks for response
In-Reply-To: <558A6CA5.5050208@inbox.com>
References: <5576CDEF.1000002@inbox.com> <5582BE6B.1070302@inbox.com>
 <558A6CA5.5050208@inbox.com>
Message-ID: <20150624094604.5b234451@kujata>

On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:39:01 +1000
Peter <peterb51 at inbox.com> wrote: 

> I now understand that Claws may or may not go forward to make it
> work with windows.

Wrong. It will.

with regards

Paul


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Wed Jun 24 11:49:18 2015
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:49:18 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws SSL connection problem -Thanks for response
In-Reply-To: <558A6CA5.5050208@inbox.com>
References: <5576CDEF.1000002@inbox.com> <5582BE6B.1070302@inbox.com>
 <558A6CA5.5050208@inbox.com>
Message-ID: <20150624104918.00004828@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:39:01 +1000
Peter wrote:

>  I use windows 7 and the Claws version is 3.9.1.

While waiting for an updated Claws you could install 3.10.1pkg56, it is
newer than what you are using now.

-- 

Brian Morrison


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Wed Jun 24 12:08:45 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:08:45 +0200
Subject: [Users] Two small issues
In-Reply-To: <20150624094839.4953b26e@anthra>
References: <5581B3DE00BCFA57@rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
 <20150622221227.728e2915@archlinux>
 <20150622232200.6b344b5d@kujata>
 <20150623101515.74179e10@archlinux> <20150623102610.58e556ed@hiker>
 <20150624094839.4953b26e@anthra>
Message-ID: <20150624120845.37e407c7@archlinux>

On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 09:48:39 +0200, wwp wrote:
>Any scenario [...] to reproduce it maybe?

I described a scenario, but I can repeat it, select mails, check and
uncheck "Show all headers" by the menu, do it again and again, for the
next 2 or 3 hours or even longer. I could do this test, since I did
some experiments off-list with somebody else subscribed to this list,
with the "Domain name" account option, while doing other work on my
computer too. I wouldn't spend that time for tests again.

If I select mails while "Show all headers" is checked for two or even
ten minutes, everything is ok.

JFTR I expirenced it just one time, I'm not the OP. It's also important
to compare with the message source, since some mails indeed have got
very short headers.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 24 12:56:51 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:56:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3448] New: Show certificate expiry when selecting
	certificates
Message-ID: <bug-3448-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3448

            Bug ID: 3448
           Summary: Show certificate expiry when selecting certificates
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.11.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Privacy
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: jan at willamowius.de

When a user renews his S/Mime certificate before the old one expires he then
has 2 valid certificates for the same sender address.

The dialog the allows the selection which to use only has the fingerprint to
make the decision. If the dialog would also show the expiry dates of the
certificates it would be much easier to select the new certificate.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 24 13:02:01 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:02:01 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3449] New: When replying to an S/Mime encrypted mail
 To: and Subject: are empty
Message-ID: <bug-3449-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3449

            Bug ID: 3449
           Summary: When replying to an S/Mime encrypted mail To: and
                    Subject: are empty
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.11.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Privacy
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: jan at willamowius.de

This doesn't seem to happen for PGP encrypted mails, only S/Mime.
Mails that are only signed, but not encrypted are OK, too.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 24 13:04:28 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:04:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3450] New: Show encryption algorithm used with S/Mime
 encryption
Message-ID: <bug-3450-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3450

            Bug ID: 3450
           Summary: Show encryption algorithm used with S/Mime encryption
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.11.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Privacy
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: jan at willamowius.de

S/Mime supports a variety of encryption algorithms, but 3DES seems to be the
most used.

It would be very helpful if Claws would display which encryption algorithm was
used to encrypt S/Mime mails.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 24 13:08:40 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:08:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3451] New: Allow selection of the encryption algorithm
 for S/Mime
Message-ID: <bug-3451-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3451

            Bug ID: 3451
           Summary: Allow selection of the encryption algorithm for S/Mime
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.11.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Privacy
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: jan at willamowius.de

S/Mime supports a variety of encryption algorithms, but 3DES seems to be the
most used, but is getting rather old and insecure.

Currently the encryption algorithm can be set for all mails with the
cipher-algo switch in gpgsm.conf (eg. "cipher-algo AES256").

It would be helpful if Claws would have a preference setting which algorithm to
use.

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From codejodler at gmx.ch  Wed Jun 24 14:45:45 2015
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:45:45 +0200
Subject: [Users] Two small issues
In-Reply-To: <20150624120845.37e407c7@archlinux>
References: <5581B3DE00BCFA57@rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
 <20150622221227.728e2915@archlinux>
 <20150622232200.6b344b5d@kujata>
 <20150623101515.74179e10@archlinux> <20150623102610.58e556ed@hiker>
 <20150624094839.4953b26e@anthra>
 <20150624120845.37e407c7@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20150624144545.258ad2df@gandalf.lan2>


> JFTR I expirenced it just one time, I'm not the OP. It's also important
> to compare with the message source, since some mails indeed have got
> very short headers.


That's my question too. Is it possible to send a mail with only the minimal set of standard headers (Date, From, To, Subject) that are shown by claws anyway ? I tried as a test  editing the outgoing file manually, but somehow didn't pass the gate keeper.



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 24 14:53:21 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:53:21 +0100
Subject: [Users] Two small issues
In-Reply-To: <20150624144545.258ad2df@gandalf.lan2>
References: <5581B3DE00BCFA57@rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
 <20150622221227.728e2915@archlinux>
 <20150622232200.6b344b5d@kujata>
 <20150623101515.74179e10@archlinux> <20150623102610.58e556ed@hiker>
 <20150624094839.4953b26e@anthra>
 <20150624120845.37e407c7@archlinux>
 <20150624144545.258ad2df@gandalf.lan2>
Message-ID: <20150624135321.4ad22d71@kujata>

On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:45:45 +0200
Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote: 

> That's my question too. Is it possible to send a mail with only the
> minimal set of standard headers (Date, From, To, Subject) that are
> shown by claws anyway ? I tried as a test  editing the outgoing
> file manually, but somehow didn't pass the gate keeper.

Yes, even with just the To header, your mail server will (probably)
add From, Subject, Date and others.

with regards

Paul


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Wed Jun 24 15:11:27 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:11:27 +0200
Subject: [Users] Two small issues
In-Reply-To: <20150624144545.258ad2df@gandalf.lan2>
References: <5581B3DE00BCFA57@rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
 <20150622221227.728e2915@archlinux>
 <20150622232200.6b344b5d@kujata>
 <20150623101515.74179e10@archlinux> <20150623102610.58e556ed@hiker>
 <20150624094839.4953b26e@anthra>
 <20150624120845.37e407c7@archlinux>
 <20150624144545.258ad2df@gandalf.lan2>
Message-ID: <20150624151127.32d56577@archlinux>

On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:45:45 +0200, Michael wrote:
>> JFTR I expirenced it just one time, I'm not the OP. It's also
>> important to compare with the message source, since some mails
>> indeed have got very short headers.
>
>That's my question too. Is it possible to send a mail with only the
>minimal set of standard headers (Date, From, To, Subject) that are
>shown by claws anyway ? I tried as a test  editing the outgoing file
>manually, but somehow didn't pass the gate keeper.

A year ago I made a few tests using msmtp, a sendmail replacement.

$ ls -hAl /usr/bin/sendmail
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 May  9 05:25 /usr/bin/sendmail -> msmtp

Setting up a Claws action to send mail stored in the draft folder would
require to remove a few Claws related lines by a script, but then
sending the mail by this action, using msmtp could be done with using
this minimum of headers.

I didn't use Claws, I used an editor for my few tests.
Some serious mails were successfully sent to mailing lists. I also made
experiments sending mails to myself.

$ ls -hAl /home/rocketmouse/.msmtp.mail
total 36K
-rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse  128 Mar  5  2014 alice.test.mail
-rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse  737 Mar  5  2014 debian.reply.1.mail
-rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 1.9K Mar  5  2014 debian.reply.2.mail
-rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse  751 Mar  5  2014 debian.reply.3.mail
-rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 1.2K Mar  5  2014 evolution.reply.1.mail
-rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse  122 Jun  9  2014 fraud.mail
-rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse  127 Jun  9  2014 no.fraud.mail
-rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse  273 Jun  9  2014 unsubscribe_debian_off-topic_list.mail
-rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse  281 Jun  9  2014 unsubscribe_debian_off-topic.mail

$ cat /home/rocketmouse/.msmtp.mail/alice.test.mail 
To: ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net
From: ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net
Subject: Alice msmtp test

Hi,

dummy text.

Regards,
Me Myself

$ cat /home/rocketmouse/.msmtp.mail/debian.reply.1.mail 
To: debian-user at lists.debian.org
From: ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net
Subject: Re: can't build modules after kernel update
In-Reply-To: <5316F912.8040505 at googlemail.com>

[snip]


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 24 15:40:23 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:40:23 +0100
Subject: [Users] Two small issues
In-Reply-To: <20150624151127.32d56577@archlinux>
References: <5581B3DE00BCFA57@rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
 <20150622221227.728e2915@archlinux>
 <20150622232200.6b344b5d@kujata>
 <20150623101515.74179e10@archlinux> <20150623102610.58e556ed@hiker>
 <20150624094839.4953b26e@anthra>
 <20150624120845.37e407c7@archlinux>
 <20150624144545.258ad2df@gandalf.lan2>
 <20150624151127.32d56577@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20150624144023.62060f07@kujata>

On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:11:27 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 

> Setting up a Claws action to send mail stored in the draft folder
> would require to remove a few Claws related lines by a script,

Why are you even considering using an Action to send mail from the
Drafts folder?

> but
> then sending the mail by this action, using msmtp could be done
> with using this minimum of headers.

A 'Local' account in Claws would do this anyway.

with regards

Paul


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Wed Jun 24 17:12:07 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:12:07 +0200
Subject: [Users] [off-topic]  Two small issues
In-Reply-To: <20150624144023.62060f07@kujata>
References: <5581B3DE00BCFA57@rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
 <20150622221227.728e2915@archlinux>
 <20150622232200.6b344b5d@kujata>
 <20150623101515.74179e10@archlinux> <20150623102610.58e556ed@hiker>
 <20150624094839.4953b26e@anthra>
 <20150624120845.37e407c7@archlinux>
 <20150624144545.258ad2df@gandalf.lan2>
 <20150624151127.32d56577@archlinux>
 <20150624144023.62060f07@kujata>
Message-ID: <20150624171207.65f9ebf7@archlinux>

On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:53:21 +0100, Paul wrote:
>Yes, even with just the To header, your mail server will (probably)
>add From, Subject, Date and others.

Can it be done using Claws?

On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:40:23 +0100, Paul wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:11:27 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: 
>> Setting up a Claws action to send mail stored in the draft folder
>> would require to remove a few Claws related lines by a script,
>
>Why are you even considering using an Action to send mail from the
>Drafts folder?
>
>> but
>> then sending the mail by this action, using msmtp could be done
>> with using this minimum of headers.
>
>A 'Local' account in Claws would do this anyway.

The action is intended to use msmtp or any other sendmail replacement
directly, just sending the headers the user wants to send.

A hint regarding header manipulation to Michael, IIRC msmtp can't fake
e.g. the sender address, at least not easily, but IIRC things like that
could be done with Wanderlust, unfortunately based on Emacs. I don't
remember exactly, because I never was interested to send spoof mail or
even to play very long with all abilities. However, msmtp allows to send
very short headers.


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Wed Jun 24 17:24:26 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:24:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Users] [off-topic]  Two small issues
In-Reply-To: <20150624171207.65f9ebf7@archlinux>
Message-ID: <98765.64163.bm@smtp131.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>

PS:

Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:12:07 +0200

Message-ID: <20150624171207.65f9ebf7 at archlinux>
In-Reply-To: <20150624144023.62060f07 at kujata>
References: <5581B3DE00BCFA57 at rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
	<20150622221227.728e2915 at archlinux>
	<20150622232200.6b344b5d at kujata>
	<20150623101515.74179e10 at archlinux>
	<20150623102610.58e556ed at hiker>
	<20150624094839.4953b26e at anthra>
	<20150624120845.37e407c7 at archlinux>
	<20150624144545.258ad2df at gandalf.lan2>
	<20150624151127.32d56577 at archlinux>
	<20150624144023.62060f07 at kujata>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Information from my last mail's header that I would remove using msmtp,
assumed I would be interested to do so. Perhaps when the mail is in the
Queue folder, it could be removed using an external editor, e.g. by an
action, before sending.

I'll test it, only keep In-Reply-To, but remove Date, Message-ID,
Content-Type and -Encoding.


From andrej at kacian.sk  Wed Jun 24 17:38:02 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:38:02 +0200
Subject: [Users] [off-topic]  Two small issues
In-Reply-To: <98765.64163.bm@smtp131.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
References: <20150624171207.65f9ebf7@archlinux>
 <98765.64163.bm@smtp131.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20150624173802.39e5d079@penny>

On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:24:26 +0000 (UTC)
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> PS:
> 
> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:12:07 +0200
> 
> Message-ID: <20150624171207.65f9ebf7 at archlinux>
> In-Reply-To: <20150624144023.62060f07 at kujata>
> References: <5581B3DE00BCFA57 at rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
> 	<20150622221227.728e2915 at archlinux>
> 	<20150622232200.6b344b5d at kujata>
> 	<20150623101515.74179e10 at archlinux>
> 	<20150623102610.58e556ed at hiker>
> 	<20150624094839.4953b26e at anthra>
> 	<20150624120845.37e407c7 at archlinux>
> 	<20150624144545.258ad2df at gandalf.lan2>
> 	<20150624151127.32d56577 at archlinux>
> 	<20150624144023.62060f07 at kujata>
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> 
> Information from my last mail's header that I would remove using msmtp,
> assumed I would be interested to do so. Perhaps when the mail is in the
> Queue folder, it could be removed using an external editor, e.g. by an
> action, before sending.

Recipients of any mailing lists which you are participating in
will undoubtedly be happy that you are breaking threading in their mail
readers. Not to mention that lot of these headers in fact SHOULD be left
there, as dictated by various RFCs.

Gosh, all that effort just to save a few lines, when many more, and
much longer, are added by mail servers en route from sender to
recipient. You must have a lot of free time.

-- 
Andrej


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Wed Jun 24 17:49:00 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:49:00 +0200
Subject: [Users] [off-topic]  Two small issues
In-Reply-To: <20150624173802.39e5d079@penny>
References: <20150624171207.65f9ebf7@archlinux>
 <98765.64163.bm@smtp131.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
 <20150624173802.39e5d079@penny>
Message-ID: <20150624174900.00762dfa@archlinux>

On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:38:02 +0200, Andrej Kacian wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:24:26 +0000 (UTC)
>Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
>> PS:
>> 
>> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:12:07 +0200
>> 
>> Message-ID: <20150624171207.65f9ebf7 at archlinux>
>> In-Reply-To: <20150624144023.62060f07 at kujata>
>> References: <5581B3DE00BCFA57 at rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
>> 	<20150622221227.728e2915 at archlinux>
>> 	<20150622232200.6b344b5d at kujata>
>> 	<20150623101515.74179e10 at archlinux>
>> 	<20150623102610.58e556ed at hiker>
>> 	<20150624094839.4953b26e at anthra>
>> 	<20150624120845.37e407c7 at archlinux>
>> 	<20150624144545.258ad2df at gandalf.lan2>
>> 	<20150624151127.32d56577 at archlinux>
>> 	<20150624144023.62060f07 at kujata>
>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>> 
>> Information from my last mail's header that I would remove using
>> msmtp, assumed I would be interested to do so. Perhaps when the mail
>> is in the Queue folder, it could be removed using an external
>> editor, e.g. by an action, before sending.
>
>Recipients of any mailing lists which you are participating in
>will undoubtedly be happy that you are breaking threading in their mail
>readers. Not to mention that lot of these headers in fact SHOULD be
>left there, as dictated by various RFCs.
>
>Gosh, all that effort just to save a few lines, when many more, and
>much longer, are added by mail servers en route from sender to
>recipient. You must have a lot of free time.

It was a question from Michael, not from me. I guess he's just
interested to know this things, not to do it. JFTR I didn't break the
thread by keeping In-Reply-To header. And also JFTR, I'm not interested
in saving a few lines. You seems to have the time to reply to my mail
and I had the time to test something Michael likes to know. So yes, I
have the 10 seconds it takes to test it.


From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Wed Jun 24 18:33:26 2015
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:33:26 -0600
Subject: [Users] Drafts considered "new" mail
Message-ID: <20150624103326.78ddf24f@iorich.localdomain>

Claws-mail 3.11.1-3 on Debian Jessie 8.1 AMD 64.

I have noticed a change from 3.8.1 to 3.11.1. When I have a draft email
open for editing (like this one now), claws-mail considers it a "new"
email. Claws highlights it in the folder view. It also indicates a
"new" email in XFCE's notification area. I believe this is a false
positive, and it rather lowers the value of the notification area.

Going to the drafts folder and turning off the "new" indicator does not
work because when you then save the edited draft, Claws considers it
new again. And it is a manual intervention where I would refer an
automatic intervention.

Is there any way to turn off this behavior?

-- 

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
-- U.S. Const. Amendment IV

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From pf at pfortin.com  Wed Jun 24 18:49:49 2015
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:49:49 -0400
Subject: [Users] Drafts considered "new" mail
In-Reply-To: <20150624103326.78ddf24f@iorich.localdomain>
References: <20150624103326.78ddf24f@iorich.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20150624124949.12b398d7@pfortin.com>

On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:33:26 -0600 Charles Curley wrote:

>Is there any way to turn off this behavior?

Configuration/Preferences/Plugins/Notification/SysTrayicon

Check "Only include selected folders" and click on "Select Folders"

Check "select recursively", then check the account (MH) which will check
every folder for that account.  Now, uncheck Drafts [and Queue, Trash,
Sent] and OK your way back out. 

HTH, 
Pierre


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Wed Jun 24 18:51:56 2015
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:51:56 +0100
Subject: [Users] Drafts considered "new" mail
In-Reply-To: <20150624103326.78ddf24f@iorich.localdomain>
References: <20150624103326.78ddf24f@iorich.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20150624175156.00001423@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:33:26 -0600
Charles Curley wrote:

> Is there any way to turn off this behavior?

Are you sure that the folder is shown as type "Drafts" in the folder
properties?

I don't see this behaviour myself, so perhaps Claws is treating the
folder as a normal folder instead of as a special folder type.

-- 

Brian Morrison


From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Wed Jun 24 19:33:23 2015
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:33:23 -0600
Subject: [Users] Drafts considered "new" mail
In-Reply-To: <20150624124949.12b398d7@pfortin.com>
References: <20150624103326.78ddf24f@iorich.localdomain>
 <20150624124949.12b398d7@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20150624113323.33b5e9e3@iorich.localdomain>

On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:49:49 -0400
Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:33:26 -0600 Charles Curley wrote:
> 
> >Is there any way to turn off this behavior?
> 
> Configuration/Preferences/Plugins/Notification/SysTrayicon
> 
> Check "Only include selected folders" and click on "Select Folders"
> 
> Check "select recursively", then check the account (MH) which will
> check every folder for that account.  Now, uncheck Drafts [and Queue,
> Trash, Sent] and OK your way back out.

Bingo. Thank you!


-- 

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
-- U.S. Const. Amendment IV

Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0  809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB


From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Wed Jun 24 19:36:33 2015
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:36:33 -0600
Subject: [Users] Drafts considered "new" mail
In-Reply-To: <20150624175156.00001423@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20150624103326.78ddf24f@iorich.localdomain>
 <20150624175156.00001423@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20150624113633.46ac2eaf@iorich.localdomain>

On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:51:56 +0100
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:33:26 -0600
> Charles Curley wrote:
> 
> > Is there any way to turn off this behavior?  
> 
> Are you sure that the folder is shown as type "Drafts" in the folder
> properties?

It is, but Pierre Fortin's solution worked.

On the other tentacle, I had no idea you could right click on a folder
and play with its characteristics there. So thank you for that.

-- 

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
-- U.S. Const. Amendment IV

Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0  809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Thu Jun 25 00:19:22 2015
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:19:22 +0200
Subject: [Users] [off-topic]  Two small issues
In-Reply-To: <20150624174900.00762dfa@archlinux>
References: <20150624171207.65f9ebf7@archlinux>
 <98765.64163.bm@smtp131.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
 <20150624173802.39e5d079@penny> <20150624174900.00762dfa@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20150625001922.03680c7e@gandalf.lan2>

Hey now, folks ... please calm down, this is totally drifting away from what i wanted to point out !

Ralf, let me correct my misleading request. I was not really asking about the "best way how to cut down the headers", but rather wanted to ask if this could be an explanation why someone *thinks* he got to see mails 'without all headers' even when the switch is checked.

If some mails were sent with just the same headers as those visible in 'normal mode' then i could imagine to be thinking this, because it's totally unexpected.

But, if i understood the comments right, any mail servers would add specific headers anyway and the answer 'Can it be ?' is a plain NO.

So, since it's already answered, let us please not discuss this anymore, or, if you still think it's important, maybe better open a separate thread.

Instead, i believe, it's the OPs turn now to reproduce the observed behavior. I still think it was some kind of misinterpretation on his side. 

Michael

Ah, ps.: If those 'crippled mails' were sent from local or intranet (like system messages forwarded from root) ? Maybe that's it ?


From w41ter at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 01:27:32 2015
From: w41ter at gmail.com (walt)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:27:32 -0700
Subject: [Users] Creating a new email account is difficult [a suggestion for
 improvement]
Message-ID: <20150624162732.3b27cf65@a6>

First, before I complain, my thanks to everyone who contributes to
claws-mail.  I'm on your side in spite of my whining :)

Okay, I'm new to claws-mail but not to open-source (I'm posting with
claws that I just compiled from today's git sources).

My big problem was creating my new email accounts, not using claws when
I (finally) got the new accounts working.  So, why did I have so much
trouble?

After much cursing and hair-pulling I figured out that most of my
trouble was because claws defaulted to using wrong port numbers
when talking to the mail servers, e.g. port 25 instead of 465, etc.

SSL/TLS are not "advanced" technology today like they were when email
was new, so I suggest that the port-number settings be moved from the
"advanced" settings to the "send" and "receive" settings, maybe with
popup error messages asking if I'm really sure which port number I
should be using?

Thanks again for your good work.




From brad at fineby.me.uk  Thu Jun 25 01:47:50 2015
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:47:50 +0100
Subject: [Users] Creating a new email account is difficult [a suggestion
 for improvement]
In-Reply-To: <20150624162732.3b27cf65@a6>
References: <20150624162732.3b27cf65@a6>
Message-ID: <20150625004750.58b84209@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:27:32 -0700
walt <w41ter at gmail.com> wrote:

Hello walt,

>After much cursing and hair-pulling I figured out that most of my
>trouble was because claws defaulted to using wrong port numbers
>when talking to the mail servers, e.g. port 25 instead of 465, etc.

If you tell CM to use SSL, it sets the correct port numbers for you(1).
No need to enter them manually.

(1)  Assuming that the server you're connecting with uses the standard
ports.  *that's* why the port number setting are on an 'advanced' page.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
We don't need no-one to tell us what's right or wrong
The Modern World - The Jam
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 25 04:08:37 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 02:08:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3438] Filter to add address to Addressbook duplicates
 address in Name field
In-Reply-To: <bug-3438-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3438-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3438-595-9y6QUcK6Ns@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3438

--- Comment #5 from Technical Support <bugzilla-claws-ok at oo.net> ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> Will be included. I've asked just in case it was causing some trouble, bit
> If you don't mind to wait, I have no hurry either :)

Thanks :-)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 25 05:16:38 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 03:16:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3440] Filter on sending mail
In-Reply-To: <bug-3440-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3440-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3440-595-GErbGM8HVN@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3440

--- Comment #4 from Technical Support <bugzilla-claws-ok at oo.net> ---
That is true. . . .

Though I used Pre-processing rules (based on Sender) rather than having to rely
on entering the Sent folder. There is rarely a need to enter the Sent folder
since messages that might be needed would have been moved.

Aged messages in the sent folder get deleted whenever another folder is clicked
on. It's a convenient way to frequently execute filters. Like a sort of
irregular cron. :-)

The difficulty with Pre-Processing rules is when there are multiple Sender
addresses. I haven't yet tested combining both and's and or's in a single
condition - with and's taking priority over or's. (Perhaps you could tell me if
it would work?)

Either way is great. Editing matcherrc directly makes it easy to duplicate
filters for each of the Sender addresses.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 19 14:54:08 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:54:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2965] Encrypted mails are stored unencrypted in
 'Queue' while sending via IMAP
In-Reply-To: <bug-2965-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2965-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2965-595-dnS0SwEpfi@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2965

--- Comment #16 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

++ ChangeLog    2015-06-25 13:03:02.266979122 +0200
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=cdc54884e627d79300efb791a34628f0c211f96d
Merge: ea2993d 4e7e4f9
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Thu Jun 25 13:03:01 2015 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e7e4f922c52439c1212cd1de813a0a9ca9d3691
Author: Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Sun Jun 21 22:22:12 2015 +0200

    Remove plaintext_file member of struct MsgInfo.

    It is no longer needed, as we no longer write unencrypted
    version of an encrypted message anywhere.

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=a7c02553954b694238e1dd4422614923083b809c
Author: Andrej Kacian <ticho at claws-mail.org>
Date:   Thu Jun 18 13:07:47 2015 +0200

    Encrypt message just before writing it to queue dir.

    This fixes bug #2965.
    As a side effect, if "Save sent encrypted messages as clear text" is
    enabled, a copy will be saved to outbox when queuing, not when sending.

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From richardkimber at btinternet.com  Thu Jun 25 12:41:24 2015
From: richardkimber at btinternet.com (R Kimber)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:41:24 +0100
Subject: [Users] [off-topic]  Two small issues
In-Reply-To: <20150625001922.03680c7e@gandalf.lan2>
References: <20150624171207.65f9ebf7@archlinux>
 <98765.64163.bm@smtp131.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
 <20150624173802.39e5d079@penny> <20150624174900.00762dfa@archlinux>
 <20150625001922.03680c7e@gandalf.lan2>
Message-ID: <5584347400B0B6AA@rgout05.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk> (added by
 postmaster@btinternet.com)

On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:19:22 +0200
Michael wrote:

> Ralf, let me correct my misleading request. I was not really asking about
> the "best way how to cut down the headers", but rather wanted to ask if
> this could be an explanation why someone *thinks* he got to see mails
> 'without all headers' even when the switch is checked.

That wasn't the explanation.  I get almost no mails with minimal headers.

> Instead, i believe, it's the OPs turn now to reproduce the observed
> behavior. I still think it was some kind of misinterpretation on his
> side. 

Yes, well I shall when I've got the time.  I just mentioned it when it
happened to see if others had experienced the issue.

- Richard.
-- 
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From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Thu Jun 25 18:48:46 2015
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:48:46 -0700
Subject: [Users] Emails from the future
Message-ID: <20150625094846.698f2e1a@frogguski.911networks.com>

Hi,

Lately, I've been get lots of emails from the future. When I checked
it wasn't a misconfiguration from my end but spam to stay on top of
the folder list.

Is there a way of filtering if the time is greater than now()? 

-- 
sknahT

vyS


From abrolag at users.sourceforge.net  Thu Jun 25 19:40:33 2015
From: abrolag at users.sourceforge.net (Abrolag)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:40:33 +0100
Subject: [Users] Emails from the future
In-Reply-To: <20150625094846.698f2e1a@frogguski.911networks.com>
References: <20150625094846.698f2e1a@frogguski.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20150625184033.5a1feed6@debian>

On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:48:46 -0700
sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Lately, I've been get lots of emails from the future. When I checked
> it wasn't a misconfiguration from my end but spam to stay on top of
> the folder list.
> 
> Is there a way of filtering if the time is greater than now()? 
> 
You can filter "age greater than", so maybe "age less than" would be worth a try
if it's possibly.

-- 
W J G


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Thu Jun 25 19:57:09 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:57:09 +0200
Subject: [Users] Emails from the future
In-Reply-To: <20150625184033.5a1feed6@debian>
References: <20150625094846.698f2e1a@frogguski.911networks.com>
 <20150625184033.5a1feed6@debian>
Message-ID: <20150625195709.21dd7f5a@archlinux>

On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:40:33 +0100, Abrolag wrote:
>On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:48:46 -0700
>sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Lately, I've been get lots of emails from the future. When I checked
>> it wasn't a misconfiguration from my end but spam to stay on top of
>> the folder list.
>> 
>> Is there a way of filtering if the time is greater than now()? 
>> 
>You can filter "age greater than", so maybe "age less than" would be
>worth a try if it's possibly.

That might cause issues with mails from pen pals from other time zones
or friends who missed daylight saving time/standard time transitions or
simply have a clock that is gong wrong. I noticed that I received mails
that was in the future and that wasn't spam.


From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Thu Jun 25 22:07:20 2015
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:07:20 -0600
Subject: [Users] Odd text on stdout at startup
Message-ID: <20150625140720.606a5cba@iorich.localdomain>

I have been seeing an odd output on stdout when I start claws-mail in a
terminal. It consists of two names, first and last, but with spaces
removed, like so: "fredflintstonebarnyrubble". For privacy
considerations, I'm not using the real names.

So I tracked down the only file in ~/.claws-mail that had both names,
quicksearch_history. I then shut claws-mail down, removed the two
names, and started claws-mail up again. No output on stdout this time.
Also, I noticed that the two names were the only entries in the file
with white spaces in them.

I then stopped claws-mail, edited the two names back in, restarted
claws-mail, and there they were.

Again, but this time I took only the spaces out. No output on stdout.

I wonder if this isn't a debug message that was accidentally left in
the code. I know I've done that.

-- 

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
-- U.S. Const. Amendment IV

Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0  809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB


From w41ter at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 02:10:26 2015
From: w41ter at gmail.com (walt)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:10:26 -0700
Subject: [Users] The little black check-mark (tick-mark) on a folder icon?
Message-ID: <20150625171026.7d04025e@a6>

I have four email accounts configured, but only one account has a
little black tick-mark superimposed on the folder icon for that account.

All four accounts have emails marked "read", and none has unread emails.

So, why does claws put the tick-mark on that one account but none of
the others?

Thanks.




From pf at pfortin.com  Fri Jun 26 02:34:03 2015
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:34:03 -0400
Subject: [Users] The little black check-mark (tick-mark) on a folder
 icon?
In-Reply-To: <20150625171026.7d04025e@a6>
References: <20150625171026.7d04025e@a6>
Message-ID: <20150625203403.5cb01c54@pfortin.com>

On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:10:26 -0700 walt wrote:

>So, why does claws put the tick-mark on that one account but none of
>the others?

Expand the account, find the folder with a tick-mark and open it...
Therein, you should find a message(s) so marked...


From w41ter at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 04:20:06 2015
From: w41ter at gmail.com (walt)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:20:06 -0700
Subject: [Users] The little black check-mark (tick-mark) on a folder
	icon?
References: <20150625171026.7d04025e@a6> <20150625203403.5cb01c54@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20150625192006.7a036af5@a6>

On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:34:03 -0400
Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:10:26 -0700 walt wrote:
> 
> >So, why does claws put the tick-mark on that one account but none of
> >the others?
> 
> Expand the account, find the folder with a tick-mark and open it...
> Therein, you should find a message(s) so marked...

Aha!  Thanks, Pierre.  The reason I couldn't see the tick-mark on the
individual "guilty" email message is that I had used the
View/Set-displayed-columns/In-message-list/ to hide the "Mark" column.

I've been hiding such "irrelevant" columns for years (in thunderbird)
because I never "mark" messages.  Either I remember an email as being
"important/<or-whatever>" or I don't.  

Obviously I don't work in a paranoid environment where my superiors
intend to blame me for their own screw-ups :)




From freebsd-listen at fabiankeil.de  Fri Jun 26 11:26:04 2015
From: freebsd-listen at fabiankeil.de (Fabian Keil)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 11:26:04 +0200
Subject: [Users] Odd text on stdout at startup
In-Reply-To: <20150625140720.606a5cba@iorich.localdomain>
References: <20150625140720.606a5cba@iorich.localdomain>
Message-ID: <73082659.1c0e19b5@fabiankeil.de>

Charles Curley <charlescurley at charlescurley.com> wrote:

> I have been seeing an odd output on stdout when I start claws-mail in a
> terminal. It consists of two names, first and last, but with spaces
> removed, like so: "fredflintstonebarnyrubble". For privacy
> considerations, I'm not using the real names.
> 
> So I tracked down the only file in ~/.claws-mail that had both names,
> quicksearch_history. I then shut claws-mail down, removed the two
> names, and started claws-mail up again. No output on stdout this time.
> Also, I noticed that the two names were the only entries in the file
> with white spaces in them.
> 
> I then stopped claws-mail, edited the two names back in, restarted
> claws-mail, and there they were.
> 
> Again, but this time I took only the spaces out. No output on stdout.
> 
> I wonder if this isn't a debug message that was accidentally left in
> the code. I know I've done that.

This is a known issue:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2411
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3417

Fabian
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 26 11:47:14 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 09:47:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3417] claws-mail occassionally emits words from the
 quicksearch history to STDOUT
In-Reply-To: <bug-3417-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3417-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3417-595-0dQJlWsUlf@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3417

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 2411 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 26 11:47:14 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 09:47:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2411] quicksearch_history content partially written to
	stdout
In-Reply-To: <bug-2411-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2411-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2411-595-QCYmnJO6Zr@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2411

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |shlomif at shlomifish.org

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
*** Bug 3417 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 26 13:14:15 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 11:14:15 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2411] quicksearch_history content partially written to
	stdout
In-Reply-To: <bug-2411-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2411-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2411-595-2yDaow21Xr@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2411

--- Comment #2 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
That "ECHO;" line is not present on my generated matcher_parser_lex.c, so it's
some problem with your lex/flex which may be generating the default rule for
unmatched text (probably because of the empty user code section).

Some ideas to try:

a) If you build from git, in src/Makefile.am add "AM_LFLAGS = -s" above 
   AM_YFLAGS line. You have to run toplevel autogen.sh then build.

b) Remove last %% from matcher_parser_lex.l and try building.

c) Instead removing last %%, add /* */ below it and try building.

If nothing of the above works, which lex/flex version are you using?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 26 13:18:37 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 11:18:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3433] Passwords containing an exclamation mark cause
 log in failure
In-Reply-To: <bug-3433-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3433-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3433-595-LLPy2oMn3B@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3433

--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
When it fails the exclamation mark in the password is:
at first char?
at last char?
at any char not first or last?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 26 13:31:14 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 11:31:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2411] quicksearch_history content partially written to
	stdout
In-Reply-To: <bug-2411-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2411-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2411-595-sWnjXRK7Ca@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2411

--- Comment #3 from Fabian Keil <fk at fabiankeil.de> ---
The FreeBSD/ElectroBSD port currently uses the generated file that is bundled
in the upstream source tarball:

$ tar xOf /usr/ports/distfiles/claws-mail-3.11.1.tar.xz
claws-mail-3.11.1/src/matcher_parser_lex.c | cat -n | grep -3 "ECHO;"
  1043    case 17:
  1044    YY_RULE_SETUP
  1045    #line 131 "matcher_parser_lex.l"
  1046    ECHO;
  1047        YY_BREAK
  1048    #line 1049 "matcher_parser_lex.c"
  1049                case YY_STATE_EOF(INITIAL):

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll give them a try this weekend.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 26 13:55:39 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 11:55:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2411] quicksearch_history content partially written to
	stdout
In-Reply-To: <bug-2411-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2411-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2411-595-w0VVcVTlF0@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2411

--- Comment #4 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
Sorry, seems I was looking at the wrong place: I also have that "ECHO;" line in
my generated .c file.

I've also checked that a) works, though you probably have to either start from
scratch or remove your current .c file.

Anyway, the result is somewhat I don't like much:

#line 131 "matcher_parser_lex.l"
YY_FATAL_ERROR( "flex scanner jammed" );

A ECHO is harmless, but I suspect a fatal error is not what we want to replace
it.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 26 17:43:53 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 15:43:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3433] Passwords containing an exclamation mark cause
 log in failure
In-Reply-To: <bug-3433-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3433-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3433-595-84mTbxnCNO@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3433

--- Comment #2 from bugzilla at rsilvola.com ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> When it fails the exclamation mark in the password is:
> at first char?
> at last char?
> at any char not first or last?

At any char not first or last.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jun 27 18:50:04 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:50:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3384] often claws-mail (often) starts with default
	clawsrc
In-Reply-To: <bug-3384-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3384-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3384-595-Rzrk5XRywa@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3384

--- Comment #3 from Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> ---
[ forwarding from https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1204967#c11 ]

It happened again: I rebooted, and when Claws Mail restarted the column widths
were all wrong. (I haven't yet managed to replace Claws Mail entirely. Kmail
was still unable to get attachments in signed messages right when I last
checked.)

As I now recognize the symptom with the column widths I didn't touch anything
in the GUI but immediately listed the contents of ~/.claws-mail. It contained
these files:

-rw-------. 11446 19 jan  2013 clawsrc.backup
-rw-------. 11061 27 jun 13.55 clawsrc.bak
-rw-------. 11061 27 jun 13.55 clawsrc.tmp

clawsrc was missing, and clawsrc.bak and clawsrc.tmp were identical.

I closed Claws Mail, and then ~/.claws-mail contained these files:

-rw-------.  9361 27 jun 15.08 clawsrc
-rw-------. 11446 19 jan  2013 clawsrc.backup
-rw-------. 11061 27 jun 13.55 clawsrc.bak

I copied clawsrc.bak to clawsrc and started Claws Mail, and now the
configuration is back to how it was.

This seems to confirm that what I've called my greater problem happens when
Claws Mail crashes or gets killed after renaming clawsrc to clawsrc.bak but
before renaming clawsrc.tmp to clawsrc.

It should be quite possible to look for clawsrc.bak or clawsrc.tmp if clawsrc
is missing when the program starts, and do this recovery automatically.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jun 27 21:46:40 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 19:46:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3384] often claws-mail (often) starts with default
	clawsrc
In-Reply-To: <bug-3384-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3384-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3384-595-t0IL11Kxnd@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3384

--- Comment #4 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Well, if you insist on shutting down uncleanly, I would suggest running
claws-mail in a console, and redirecting stdout and stderr to a file.
prefs_file_close(), the function responsible for handling the .tmp and .bak
files will print out any errors while copying/renaming, and that might bring
some insight at where the procedure fails for you.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 28 01:03:40 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 23:03:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3384] often claws-mail (often) starts with default
	clawsrc
In-Reply-To: <bug-3384-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3384-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3384-595-z24TGTay2c@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3384

--- Comment #5 from Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at fedoraproject.org> ---
@Andrej : I only forwarded the reporter's comment.

As what likely goes wrong is this when killing Claws Mail while it's trying to
terminate: http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2015-March/012638.html

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From edodd55 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 01:44:35 2015
From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 09:44:35 +1000
Subject: [Users] How do I?
In-Reply-To: <20150614211400.688997c2.edodd55@gmail.com>
References: <20150614154958.4f97c5f4.edodd55@gmail.com>
 <20150614104033.549ed660@kujata>
 <20150614211400.688997c2.edodd55@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150628094435.32139dce.edodd55@gmail.com>

On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 21:14:00 +1000
Liz <edodd55 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 10:40:33 +0100
> Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:49:58 +1000
> > Liz <edodd55 at gmail.com> wrote: 
> > 
> > > Abort Claws fetching mail when the internet connection drops??
> > > It takes a long time for 4 times the timeout, during which time
> > > Claws valiantly tries to reach 4 off-site mail servers, and I
> > > can't browse my email at all until it gives up.
> > > Subsequent tries on the same internet outage don't take as long.
> > 
> > For me it's more or less instant.
> > 
> > > Could someone tell me how I can abort the "Get Mail" sequence?
> > 
> > /Message/Receive/Cancel receiving
> > 
> > with regards
> > 
> > Paul
> 
> Thanks, Paul.

Tried this morning, and no effect.
One remote mail server off-line, waited about 2 min for time out,
cannot use Claws during this time - "busy" icon only.
Tried the "cancel receiving" 3 or 4 times with no effect.
Claws Mail 3.11.1
Debian stretch/sid

System Information
GTK+ 2.24.25 / GLib 2.42.1
Locale: en_AU.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8)
Operating System: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 (x86_64)


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Sun Jun 28 02:36:58 2015
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 02:36:58 +0200
Subject: [Users] How do I?
In-Reply-To: <20150628094435.32139dce.edodd55@gmail.com>
References: <20150614154958.4f97c5f4.edodd55@gmail.com>
 <20150614104033.549ed660@kujata>
 <20150614211400.688997c2.edodd55@gmail.com>
 <20150628094435.32139dce.edodd55@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150628023658.04438345@gandalf.lan2>

Liz,

> Tried this morning, and no effect.
> One remote mail server off-line, waited about 2 min for time out,
> cannot use Claws during this time - "busy" icon only.
> Tried the "cancel receiving" 3 or 4 times with no effect.

Occasionally things get slow for me when DNS servers are slow (i'm using a weird custom server rotation). Or sometimes my ISP cuts the line and the router needs to reconnect. What i mean is, are you sure it's the mail server's offline ? 

For emergencies (like sending off the wrong mail) i configured a desktop button to cut off the internet (like for example 'sudo ifconfig eth0 down' or using systmctl - there are many ways). When that happens, claws usually stops everything after the configured timeout (here 10s), naturally with an error message. You can configure another button to re-launch the internet interface. 

(It just comes to my mind that you probably could as well switch off/on the WLAN or plug in/out your ethernet wire.)


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sun Jun 28 03:08:46 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 03:08:46 +0200
Subject: [Users] How do I?
In-Reply-To: <20150628023658.04438345@gandalf.lan2>
References: <20150614154958.4f97c5f4.edodd55@gmail.com>
 <20150614104033.549ed660@kujata>
 <20150614211400.688997c2.edodd55@gmail.com>
 <20150628094435.32139dce.edodd55@gmail.com>
 <20150628023658.04438345@gandalf.lan2>
Message-ID: <20150628030846.48949c97@archlinux>

On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 02:36:58 +0200, Michael wrote:
>For emergencies (like sending off the wrong mail) i configured a
>desktop button to cut off the internet (like for example 'sudo
>ifconfig eth0 down' or using systmctl - there are many ways).

While I prefer the human understandable old school "eth0", I switched
to the new style for my systemd install. I need to take a look at a
script to remember the new name ...

--off) echo ; poff -a ; ip link set enp3s0 down ; echo -n "Progress: "
       while pidof pppd > /dev/null ; do echo -n "." ; sleep 3 ; done ;
       echo ; modprobe -vr pppoe ; echo ; exit ;;

It's possible to change this by an udev rule. While I hate the new
names, I anyway use them to avoid trouble. Likely some distros are
still hybride, pseudo-systemd, however distros that finished a
consequent transition to systemd, likely don't use the old names
anymore by default.

Btw. using POP accounts I simply can push a "cancel" button provided by
Claws to abort fetching mails.

I never tried "/Message/Receive/Cancel receiving" or disconnecting the
Internet connection. A mouse click on the "cancel" button always does
the job.


From edodd55 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 03:13:31 2015
From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 11:13:31 +1000
Subject: [Users] How do I?
In-Reply-To: <20150628023658.04438345@gandalf.lan2>
References: <20150614154958.4f97c5f4.edodd55@gmail.com>
 <20150614104033.549ed660@kujata>
 <20150614211400.688997c2.edodd55@gmail.com>
 <20150628094435.32139dce.edodd55@gmail.com>
 <20150628023658.04438345@gandalf.lan2>
Message-ID: <20150628111331.4cbdcbbd.edodd55@gmail.com>

On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 02:36:58 +0200
Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote:

> Liz,
> 
> > Tried this morning, and no effect.
> > One remote mail server off-line, waited about 2 min for time out,
> > cannot use Claws during this time - "busy" icon only.
> > Tried the "cancel receiving" 3 or 4 times with no effect.
> 
> Occasionally things get slow for me when DNS servers are slow (i'm
> using a weird custom server rotation). Or sometimes my ISP cuts the
> line and the router needs to reconnect. What i mean is, are you sure
> it's the mail server's offline ? \

Absolutely. I shut it down for a pre-advertised power outage.

> 
> For emergencies (like sending off the wrong mail) i configured a
> desktop button to cut off the internet (like for example 'sudo
> ifconfig eth0 down' or using systmctl - there are many ways). When
> that happens, claws usually stops everything after the configured
> timeout (here 10s),

my timeout is not a barely noticeable 10s. Is this configurable?

> naturally with an error message. You can
> configure another button to re-launch the internet interface. 
> 
> (It just comes to my mind that you probably could as well switch
> off/on the WLAN or plug in/out your ethernet wire.)

I don't need to do anything like that. I'm just stuck with a long
timeout, and the menu item Paul pointed me to had no effect.


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From codejodler at gmx.ch  Sun Jun 28 03:33:55 2015
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 03:33:55 +0200
Subject: [Users] How do I?
In-Reply-To: <20150628030846.48949c97@archlinux>
References: <20150614154958.4f97c5f4.edodd55@gmail.com>
 <20150614104033.549ed660@kujata>
 <20150614211400.688997c2.edodd55@gmail.com>
 <20150628094435.32139dce.edodd55@gmail.com>
 <20150628023658.04438345@gandalf.lan2>
 <20150628030846.48949c97@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20150628033355.7d165dca@gandalf.lan2>

Liz,

> my timeout is not a barely noticeable 10s. Is this configurable?

I think it is Other -> Misc -> Socket timeout


From edodd55 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 03:45:43 2015
From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 11:45:43 +1000
Subject: [Users] How do I?
In-Reply-To: <20150628033355.7d165dca@gandalf.lan2>
References: <20150614154958.4f97c5f4.edodd55@gmail.com>
 <20150614104033.549ed660@kujata>
 <20150614211400.688997c2.edodd55@gmail.com>
 <20150628094435.32139dce.edodd55@gmail.com>
 <20150628023658.04438345@gandalf.lan2>
 <20150628030846.48949c97@archlinux>
 <20150628033355.7d165dca@gandalf.lan2>
Message-ID: <20150628114543.277892a3.edodd55@gmail.com>

On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 03:33:55 +0200
Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote:

> Liz,
> 
> > my timeout is not a barely noticeable 10s. Is this configurable?
> 
> I think it is Other -> Misc -> Socket timeout


I'm not finding anything resembling that in a menu option.

Liz


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Sun Jun 28 04:14:10 2015
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 04:14:10 +0200
Subject: [Users] How do I?
In-Reply-To: <20150628114543.277892a3.edodd55@gmail.com>
References: <20150614154958.4f97c5f4.edodd55@gmail.com>
 <20150614104033.549ed660@kujata>
 <20150614211400.688997c2.edodd55@gmail.com>
 <20150628094435.32139dce.edodd55@gmail.com>
 <20150628023658.04438345@gandalf.lan2>
 <20150628030846.48949c97@archlinux>
 <20150628033355.7d165dca@gandalf.lan2>
 <20150628114543.277892a3.edodd55@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150628041410.0648e9a5@gandalf.lan2>


Configuration -> Preferences -> Other -> Miscellaneous


From edodd55 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 06:42:26 2015
From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 14:42:26 +1000
Subject: [Users] How do I?
In-Reply-To: <20150628041410.0648e9a5@gandalf.lan2>
References: <20150614154958.4f97c5f4.edodd55@gmail.com>
 <20150614104033.549ed660@kujata>
 <20150614211400.688997c2.edodd55@gmail.com>
 <20150628094435.32139dce.edodd55@gmail.com>
 <20150628023658.04438345@gandalf.lan2>
 <20150628030846.48949c97@archlinux>
 <20150628033355.7d165dca@gandalf.lan2>
 <20150628114543.277892a3.edodd55@gmail.com>
 <20150628041410.0648e9a5@gandalf.lan2>
Message-ID: <20150628144226.5401c93e.edodd55@gmail.com>

On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 04:14:10 +0200
Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote:

> Configuration -> Preferences -> Other -> Miscellaneous

That's got a 60sec timeout
but it takes longer than that to timeout on each socket. I've been back
to work to restart that mail server, so no further testing available
today.


From berndth at gmx.de  Sun Jun 28 10:11:21 2015
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 10:11:21 +0200
Subject: [Users] Drafts considered "new" mail
In-Reply-To: <20150624113633.46ac2eaf@iorich.localdomain>
References: <20150624103326.78ddf24f@iorich.localdomain>
 <20150624175156.00001423@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20150624113633.46ac2eaf@iorich.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20150628101121.03875b6e@wodan>

Hallo Charles,

On Mi, 24.06.2015 11:36, Charles Curley wrote:

>On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:51:56 +0100
>Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:33:26 -0600
>> Charles Curley wrote:
>> 
>> > Is there any way to turn off this behavior?  
>> 
>> Are you sure that the folder is shown as type "Drafts" in the folder
>> properties?
>
>It is, but Pierre Fortin's solution worked.

Are you sure? Because folders with folder type "Drafts" (or subfolders
of such a folder) are excluded from notification. So Pierre's solution
is actually a workaround, Brian's suggestion points at the root cause.

Holger


From berndth at gmx.de  Sun Jun 28 10:48:11 2015
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 10:48:11 +0200
Subject: [Users] Configure options - Was: Missiing spelling
In-Reply-To: <20150623134601.10b9b2a3@archlinux>
References: <20150622082729.6d41f8f9@frogguski.911networks.com>
 <20150622180052.4f250c9f@archlinux>
 <20150622181154.04308434@archlinux>
 <20150622190950.14104356@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150623115202.097474a6@archlinux>
 <20150623132903.7d746b02@archlinux> <20150623133555.17ed10b9@hiker>
 <20150623134601.10b9b2a3@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20150628104811.47b758d8@wodan>

Hallo Ralf,

On Di, 23.06.2015 13:46, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

>>> However, Michael already pointed out --enable-enchant isn't needed,
>>> it's enabled automatically. Are any of the following options
>>> also unneeded:
>>
>>They are unneeded if you don't need them. I'm not entirely sure what
>>you are trying to achieve here.
>
>I want to know, what configure options I need to add, if I want to
>enable/disable those options. Michael claimed that it's not needed to
>add --enable-enchant to enable it [2]. So is it needed to add any of the
>other options [1] to configure, to enable/disable them, assumed all
>build dependencies are installed, those for the enabled and disabled
>options.

Some --enable... options (mainly those for plugins) change semantics of
the configure step. If the dependency is not fulfilled, then
- if no --enable-option is given: Print a warning and build without it
- if --enable-option is given: Error out

So the seemingly unneeded options can serve the purpose to make sure
that some feature is actually included in the build, if the build
succeeds.

Holger


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sun Jun 28 10:59:01 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 10:59:01 +0200
Subject: [Users] Configure options - Was: Missiing spelling
In-Reply-To: <20150628104811.47b758d8@wodan>
References: <20150622082729.6d41f8f9@frogguski.911networks.com>
 <20150622180052.4f250c9f@archlinux>
 <20150622181154.04308434@archlinux>
 <20150622190950.14104356@sleipner.datanom.net>
 <20150623115202.097474a6@archlinux>
 <20150623132903.7d746b02@archlinux> <20150623133555.17ed10b9@hiker>
 <20150623134601.10b9b2a3@archlinux> <20150628104811.47b758d8@wodan>
Message-ID: <20150628105901.7765b698@archlinux>

On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 10:48:11 +0200, Holger Berndt wrote:
>Hallo Ralf,
>
>On Di, 23.06.2015 13:46, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
>>>> However, Michael already pointed out --enable-enchant isn't needed,
>>>> it's enabled automatically. Are any of the following options
>>>> also unneeded:
>>>
>>>They are unneeded if you don't need them. I'm not entirely sure what
>>>you are trying to achieve here.
>>
>>I want to know, what configure options I need to add, if I want to
>>enable/disable those options. Michael claimed that it's not needed to
>>add --enable-enchant to enable it [2]. So is it needed to add any of
>>the other options [1] to configure, to enable/disable them, assumed
>>all build dependencies are installed, those for the enabled and
>>disabled options.
>
>Some --enable... options (mainly those for plugins) change semantics of
>the configure step. If the dependency is not fulfilled, then
>- if no --enable-option is given: Print a warning and build without it
>- if --enable-option is given: Error out
>
>So the seemingly unneeded options can serve the purpose to make sure
>that some feature is actually included in the build, if the build
>succeeds.

Thank you


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 28 12:31:47 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 10:31:47 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3384] often claws-mail (often) starts with default
	clawsrc
In-Reply-To: <bug-3384-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3384-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3384-595-CtYl4sE2b8@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3384

--- Comment #6 from Jerome <joebug at ouvaton.org> ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> [ forwarding from https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1204967#c11 ]
> 
> It happened again: I rebooted, and when Claws Mail restarted the column
> widths were all wrong.
> [...]
> It should be quite possible to look for clawsrc.bak or clawsrc.tmp if
> clawsrc is missing when the program starts, and do this recovery
> automatically.

This is what I've done round about end of Feb.- which works fine (100%) for me
(and not included here) logs all the times one or the other files are
present/missing - hadn't though of redirecting stdout and stderr - will do so,
just out of curiosity.

... but also after reading Paul's
> More than likely the result of not shutting down cleanly. 
I have progressively taken to clicking "Quit Claws-Mail" before shutting
computer down, so bash-script is only really there as a failsafe.

=======
#!/bin/bash
if [ -f ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc.tmp ] && [ ! -f ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc ]
then mv ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc.tmp ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc 
fi

`/usr/bin/claws-mail &` 
=======

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From pf at pfortin.com  Sun Jun 28 13:12:53 2015
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 07:12:53 -0400
Subject: [Users] Drafts considered "new" mail
In-Reply-To: <20150628101121.03875b6e@wodan>
References: <20150624103326.78ddf24f@iorich.localdomain>
 <20150624175156.00001423@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
 <20150624113633.46ac2eaf@iorich.localdomain>
 <20150628101121.03875b6e@wodan>
Message-ID: <20150628071253.09c15b3d@pfortin.com>

On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 10:11:21 +0200 Holger Berndt wrote:

>Hallo Charles,
>
>On Mi, 24.06.2015 11:36, Charles Curley wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:51:56 +0100
>>Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:33:26 -0600
>>> Charles Curley wrote:
>>> 
>>> > Is there any way to turn off this behavior?  
>>> 
>>> Are you sure that the folder is shown as type "Drafts" in the folder
>>> properties?
>>
>>It is, but Pierre Fortin's solution worked.
>
>Are you sure? Because folders with folder type "Drafts" (or subfolders
>of such a folder) are excluded from notification. So Pierre's solution
>is actually a workaround, Brian's suggestion points at the root cause.

Then it's a workaround that I too needed a while back.  My Draft
and Queue folders are correctly typed.  Suddenly, one day, they
started being included in the SystrayIcon.  I remember contemplating
writing a bug report; but a quick search in the code led me to my
"workaround".  IMHO, the root cause must have been a change in the
code...  :)

Pierre


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sun Jun 28 18:13:47 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:13:47 +0200
Subject: [Users] Mail selection window right click menu issue
Message-ID: <20150628181347.05599964@archlinux>

Hi,

the right click menu in the mail selection window often does the first
thing in the menu, opening an editor to reply. My first thought was a
broken mouse button, but this "button release issue/double right click
issue" only happens for the right click menu in the mail selection
window of claws, the mouse button doesn't cause problems for other right
click menus.

The shortcut Ctrl+Del doesn't work, instead pushing the Del-Key alone
moves to Trash. I would prefer a shortcut for deleting a mail/mails,
with a confirmation dialog box, were return/Enter does confirm.

version 3.11.1-163-ga98ae44

Regards,
Ralf


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 28 18:19:06 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 17:19:06 +0100
Subject: [Users] Mail selection window right click menu issue
In-Reply-To: <20150628181347.05599964@archlinux>
References: <20150628181347.05599964@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20150628171906.2d47e355@kujata>

On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:13:47 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 

> the right click menu in the mail selection window often does the
> first thing in the menu, opening an editor to reply. My first
> thought was a broken mouse button, but this "button release
> issue/double right click issue" only happens for the right click
> menu in the mail selection window of claws, the mouse button
> doesn't cause problems for other right click menus.

Probably is a button issue. Works fine here.

> The shortcut Ctrl+Del doesn't work, instead pushing the Del-Key
> alone moves to Trash. I would prefer a shortcut for deleting a
> mail/mails, with a confirmation dialog box, were return/Enter does
> confirm.

Those mails are not deleted, they are just moved to the trash folder.
You do get  confirm dialogues when deleting, (unless you chose to turn
them off).

with regards

Paul


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sun Jun 28 18:39:47 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:39:47 +0200
Subject: [Users] Mail selection window right click menu issue
In-Reply-To: <20150628171906.2d47e355@kujata>
References: <20150628181347.05599964@archlinux>
 <20150628171906.2d47e355@kujata>
Message-ID: <20150628183947.3552568c@archlinux>

On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 17:19:06 +0100, Paul wrote:
>On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:13:47 +0200
>Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 
>
>> the right click menu in the mail selection window often does the
>> first thing in the menu, opening an editor to reply. My first
>> thought was a broken mouse button, but this "button release
>> issue/double right click issue" only happens for the right click
>> menu in the mail selection window of claws, the mouse button
>> doesn't cause problems for other right click menus.
>
>Probably is a button issue. Works fine here.

Unlikely the the mouse button only fails when using Claws and only when
using it for the mail selection window and works without a problem for
other right click menus.

>> The shortcut Ctrl+Del doesn't work, instead pushing the Del-Key
>> alone moves to Trash. I would prefer a shortcut for deleting a
>> mail/mails, with a confirmation dialog box, were return/Enter does
>> confirm.
>
>Those mails are not deleted, they are just moved to the trash folder.
>You do get  confirm dialogues when deleting, (unless you chose to turn
>them off).

Yes, when using the right click menu in the mail selection window, but
how can I delete using a shortcut?

My mistake, it's not Ctrl+Del, it's Ctrl+D that does move to the trash,
however the delete key alone does also move to trash.

Btw. I couldn't find were to disable confirmation mails for deletion,
however I won't disable it, but I thought that there might be an option
to chose between move to trash and delete for the delete key.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 28 18:56:05 2015
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 17:56:05 +0100
Subject: [Users] Mail selection window right click menu issue
In-Reply-To: <20150628183947.3552568c@archlinux>
References: <20150628181347.05599964@archlinux>
 <20150628171906.2d47e355@kujata>
 <20150628183947.3552568c@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20150628175605.6b4324cb@kujata>

On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:39:47 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 

> Yes, when using the right click menu in the mail selection window,
> but how can I delete using a shortcut?

http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Interface#How_can_I_change_the_key-bindings_.28hot-keys.29_in_Claws_Mail.3F

> Btw. I couldn't find were to disable confirmation mails for
> deletion, however I won't disable it, but I thought that there
> might be an option to chose between move to trash and delete for
> the delete key.

See 'live_dangerously' here:
http://www.claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html#adv_hidden

with regards

Paul


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sun Jun 28 19:20:21 2015
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:20:21 +0200
Subject: [Users] Mail selection window right click menu issue
In-Reply-To: <20150628175605.6b4324cb@kujata>
References: <20150628181347.05599964@archlinux>
 <20150628171906.2d47e355@kujata>
 <20150628183947.3552568c@archlinux>
 <20150628175605.6b4324cb@kujata>
Message-ID: <20150628192021.49982ef4@archlinux>

On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 17:56:05 +0100, Paul wrote:
>http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Interface#How_can_I_change_the_key-bindings_.28hot-keys.29_in_Claws_Mail.3F

Thank you, that solved my problem.

>See 'live_dangerously' here:
>http://www.claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html#adv_hidden

Thank you, I don't want to use it, but to know how to do this.
I wasn't aware that the Tab key auto-completes addresses :).


From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Jun 28 19:33:37 2015
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:33:37 +0200
Subject: [Users] Mail selection window right click menu issue
In-Reply-To: <20150628181347.05599964@archlinux>
References: <20150628181347.05599964@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20150628193337.55d742b7@penny>

On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:13:47 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> The shortcut Ctrl+Del doesn't work, instead pushing the Del-Key alone
> moves to Trash. I would prefer a shortcut for deleting a mail/mails,
> with a confirmation dialog box, were return/Enter does confirm.

Just assign a shortcut to main window's "/Message/Delete..." menu
entry, and use that. I have mine set to Shift+Delete, and it has been
working well for me for years.

-- 
Andrej


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 28 20:33:09 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:33:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3452] New: Ability to register as default email program
Message-ID: <bug-3452-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3452

            Bug ID: 3452
           Summary: Ability to register as default email program
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.10.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: daniel.hrbac at yahoo.com

I would like to be able to use Claws as default email program within the
meaning of windows environment. Mainly in order to be able to use mailto: links
to be opened by Claws.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 28 20:33:55 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:33:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3378] Ability to import and use non-PGP digital
	signature
In-Reply-To: <bug-3378-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3378-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3378-595-FdWgUZeZ5E@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3378

daniel <daniel.hrbac at yahoo.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
            Version|3.11.1                      |3.10.1

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 28 21:14:52 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:14:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3453] New: Printing email with images causes Claws to
	crash
Message-ID: <bug-3453-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3453

            Bug ID: 3453
           Summary: Printing email with images causes Claws to crash
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.10.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: daniel.hrbac at yahoo.com

Created attachment 1527
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1527&action=edit
Claws crash screenshot

When Options->Message View->Image Viewer->Print Images is enabled, print causes
error message in Microsoft Visual C++ library, complaining about
cairo_scaled_font.c. Claws crashes afterwards.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 28 21:15:43 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:15:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3378] Ability to import and use non-PGP digital
	signature
In-Reply-To: <bug-3378-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3378-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3378-595-LSrd4tVqGk@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3378

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Have you tried the S/MIME plugin? As far as I know, .pfx are standard x509
signatures.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 28 21:17:36 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:17:36 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3452] Ability to register as default email program
In-Reply-To: <bug-3452-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3452-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3452-595-LhIVIdcLIE@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3452

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
The installer program asks you about this during installation. Does it not work
when you answer Yes to the question?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 28 21:19:51 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:19:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3446] bsfilter hangs Claws Mail with AVG Free
	Antivirus 2015
In-Reply-To: <bug-3446-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3446-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3446-595-dRjewxFGiW@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3446

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Does Claws Mail get stuck when you use the "Learn as Spam"/"Learn as Ham"
functions of the bsfilter plugin, or during some other action?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 28 21:21:56 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:21:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3398] Sylpheed may be hijacking default email client
 functionality
In-Reply-To: <bug-3398-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3398-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3398-595-5bPj5Ep6Dw@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3398

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Perhaps Sylpheed mangles the related Windows Registry entries. Have you tried
reinstalling Claws Mail? The entries are set during installation only - I don't
think Claws Mail itself checks them anytime later.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 28 21:43:49 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:43:49 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3204] missing reg entries to use as default
 mailto:protocol handler.
In-Reply-To: <bug-3204-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3204-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3204-595-2UW37riQa8@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3204

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
This will be fixed in upcoming release, thanks.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 28 21:48:48 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:48:48 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3446] bsfilter hangs Claws Mail with AVG Free
	Antivirus 2015
In-Reply-To: <bug-3446-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3446-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3446-595-fCi9gVaJ9w@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3446

--- Comment #2 from Per Gunnarsson <p.gunnarsson at yahoo.com> ---
As I recalled it Claws Mail got stuck when I tried to load the Gmail Inbox. I
had not done anything with the bsfilter plugin, it was the default install of
Claws Mail so I guess it was the Claws Mail default configuration of bsfilter.

I don't have a Windows 8 AMD64 box myself, so I can't check it straight away
but I'll visit my mother later this month.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun 29 00:15:16 2015
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 22:15:16 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2973] "Set as Default Client" doesn't correctly set
 MAPI integration
In-Reply-To: <bug-2973-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2973-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2973-595-6SaqySuxlt@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2973

Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |WONTFIX

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Claws Mail does not support MAPI, nor it probably ever will (unless you want to
step in and implement it).

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