[Users] [Bug 3288] New: Set default message view NOT threaded.

[pete nikolic]

On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 04:42:42 -0400
"B. S." <bs27975 at gmail.com> wrote:

> You're missing my point.
> 
> That's your/a personal choice.
> 
> By being on by default, poorer out of the box experience.
> 
> Given the request, far easier to turn on after install, than to turn off.
> 
> Remember - this is initial install point. Change of defaults afterwards 
> / etc. different story.
> 
> That you do/don't like/hate one way or the other by default, is not 
> germane to the request.
> 
> Put another way - a reasonable user of the vast majority of e-mail use 
> these days I expect would expect non-threaded initially. That should be 
> the guide. That a reasonable *technical/developer* user of the vast 
> majority of e-mail use these days I would expect threaded initially, may 
> or may not be true, but is a rather smaller subset of the user domain 
> used above. The former, not the latter, should be the guide.
> 
> As I said - an option would fix it, satisfy everyone, lead to a better 
> out of box experience, and save a pile of fiddly work at migration.
> 
> 
> On 14-09-20 03:07 AM, pete nikolic wrote:
> > On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 00:14:51 +0000
> > noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3288
> >>
> >>              Bug ID: 3288
> >>             Summary: Set default message view NOT threaded.
> >>      Classification: Unclassified
> >>             Product: Claws Mail
> >>             Version: 3.8.0
> >>            Hardware: PC
> >>                  OS: Linux
> >>              Status: NEW
> >>            Severity: enhancement
> >>            Priority: P3
> >>           Component: UI/Message List
> >>            Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
> >>            Reporter: bs27975 at gmail.com
> >>
> >> Personally, I hate threading, but that's my use case.I keep up with my e-mail /
> >> conversations on the go. [And not everybody 'gets' threading / most fail to
> >> change the subject line when hijacking threads.]  Back in my NNTP days, though,
> >> where I might not keep up with every list every hour, threading had its place,
> >> for me.
> >>
> >> I have just migrated a couple of mailboxes to claws-mail. VERY painful process
> >> - given the thousands of messages, this is situation normal. Regardless of the
> >> mail client, migration takes an irritating amount of time, nothing unique to CM
> >> in that.
> >>
> >> However, the process of migrating is made worse / more painful / takes longer
> >> due to the default message list view of threading.
> >>
> >> This, IMO, makes the CM out of box experience worse than it could be. Could the
> >> default message list view not be threaded, please. Further: When migrating, one
> >> is looking to see things are working / it's working at all / progress - so, for
> >> example, one watches the messages coming in and probably follows the dates to
> >> get a sense of progress. Threading throws this all off. [It's all well and good
> >> to see 42 messages of 4,000, say, have been processed - it is a bit more
> >> informative to see that import is up to about a month ago. A user will have a
> >> sense of how much e-mail was received in the last month, and thus a theoretical
> >> sense of how much longer an import might take.]
> >>
> >> I sure get, once imported, threading may be preferable, thus the current
> >> ability to change views is more than sufficient. (Thank you all!)
> >>
> >> Additional Enhancements:
> >>
> >> - thread view default (at folder creation) could be a configuration option,
> >> left off at install. [Let's one leave off during migration, turn on globally
> >> for subsequent folder creations.]
> >>
> >> - could a thread view indicator / icon be added, please? Perhaps left of toggle
> >> quick search bar icon?
> >>
> >> After / during migration I had to click on each folder, take my hands off
> >> keyboard (pressing arrow keys to transit folder list), mouse to click on view,
> >> examine threaded status, and click or not as appropriate to turn off.
> >>
> >> This gets very old very quickly. Being able to click on each folder (if that's
> >> what I'm left to do / current situation), see this icon, click it if necessary,
> >> then click next folder, would have been much easier.
> >>
> >> Thanks for listening.
> >>
> >
> > - 1
> >
> > Threading ON by default  i hate non threaded readers
> >
> > Pete .
> >
> >
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One day top posting WILL die 

I have almost ZERO mail that is not threaded therefore default threaded is the
Correct option for me  .


YMMV mine is fixed and stationary 

Pete .


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