From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jun 1 00:54:49 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 22:54:49 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3066] Use overlay icons to get a native system (theme) integration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3066 andré changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |andr55 at laposte.net --- Comment #12 from andré --- Not a bad idea for a theme extension, if that can be done. (Although I like the current icons myself.) Much other software does allow alternate themes. The hard part would probably be making the extension. I would expect those asking for the theme would be prepared to provide the icons they wanted. Evidently they should match the names that Claws uses. It wouldn't be hard to create missing icons to match the new theme, or it could just use the standard Claws icons. Of course the icons would have to be distributable under the license for the extension. BTW, after a search on my system, I don't find any icons for Claws, other than the main one. Where are they installed, or what is the full name of at least one ? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jun 1 09:04:43 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2014 07:04:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3199] Decryption with GPG plugin fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3199 --- Comment #8 from Michael Schwendt --- $ man gpg-agent [...] Please make sure that a proper pinentry program has been installed [...] -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jun 1 09:29:13 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2014 07:29:13 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3199] Decryption with GPG plugin fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3199 --- Comment #9 from mikesvl --- I've just installed gnupg-agent, but no change. gnupg-agent pinentry-gtk2 I don't understand, I used Seahorse to manage keys. The passphrase appears when I send a message. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jun 1 09:50:00 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2014 07:50:00 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3199] Decryption with GPG plugin fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3199 --- Comment #10 from Michael Schwendt --- What are your settings in Preferences > Plugins > GPG? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jun 1 10:04:44 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2014 08:04:44 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3199] Decryption with GPG plugin fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3199 --- Comment #11 from mikesvl --- Created attachment 1374 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1374&action=edit settings -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jun 1 10:05:58 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2014 08:05:58 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3199] Decryption with GPG plugin fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3199 --- Comment #12 from mikesvl --- See attachment. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jun 1 11:00:04 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2014 09:00:04 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3199] Decryption with GPG plugin fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3199 --- Comment #13 from Michael Schwendt --- It would be better to move this to the mailing-list. Be a little bit creative when doing trouble-shooting. Uncheck the "Use gpg-agent" box. What does that change? How did you configure gpg-agent instead of seahorse-agent? Which version of Seahorse and seahorse-agent is it? If you store the encrypted message on local disk, open a terminal, then run "gpg filename", what do you get? With a properly configured gpg-agent, you would get a graphical password dialog, too. Install a lightweight window manager, such as Openbox, as an alternative for testing with. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jun 1 11:13:47 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2014 09:13:47 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3199] Decryption with GPG plugin fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3199 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #14 from Paul --- (In reply to comment #13) > It would be better to move this to the mailing-list. Certainly would! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jun 1 14:21:20 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2014 12:21:20 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3201] New: Patch to fix memory corruption in sc_html_read_line() Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3201 Bug ID: 3201 Summary: Patch to fix memory corruption in sc_html_read_line() Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.10.0 Hardware: All OS: FreeBSD Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Other Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: fk at fabiankeil.de Created attachment 1375 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1375&action=edit Patch to fix memory corruption in sc_html_read_line() The attached patch fixes crashes like this: (gdb) r Starting program: /usr/local/bin/claws-mail [New LWP 101445] [New Thread 80b006400 (LWP 101445)] Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 80b006400 (LWP 101445)] 0x00000000004c1c71 in sc_html_read_line (parser=0x80b1dda00) at html.c:466 466 index = parser->bufp - parser->buf->str; (gdb) p *parser $1 = {fp = 0x80b14d5e0, conv = 0x8056e1f50, symbol_table = 0x8056e1f00 , alt_symbol_table = 0x1, str = 0x80b0546c0, buf = 0x10000006c, bufp = 0x1f5
, state = SC_HTML_NORMAL, href = 0x0, newline = 0, empty_line = 0, space = 0, pre = 0} (gdb) where #0 0x00000000004c1c71 in sc_html_read_line (parser=0x80b1dda00) at html.c:466 #1 0x00000000004c1960 in sc_html_parse (parser=0x80b1ddac0) at html.c:395 #2 0x00000000005e538a in textview_show_html (textview=0x80b19dcc0, fp=0x806feb580, conv=0x80b14d5c0) at textview.c:1214 #3 0x00000000005e26f8 in textview_write_body (textview=0x80b19dcc0, mimeinfo=0x80b08a780) at textview.c:1067 [...] Note that parser's last byte got overwritten in #0. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jun 1 14:21:20 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2014 12:21:20 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3201] Patch to fix memory corruption in sc_html_read_line() In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3201 --- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2014-06-01 16:04:02.398289641 +0200 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=8791822610f193b0ea29e17a8173e6fc68b5375f Merge: 07b2a97 5f52f11 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Sun Jun 1 16:04:02 2014 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f52f113ac9fd054f10752febbfac340c38cddbe Author: Fabian Keil Date: Sun Jun 1 13:55:20 2014 +0200 Fix bug #3201 "Fix memory corruption in sc_html_read_line()" Previously fread() could fill the whole buffer in which case buf[n] = '' messed up the stack. Introduced in d0c64a09 + 4ab3585743. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jun 1 16:05:58 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2014 14:05:58 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3201] Patch to fix memory corruption in sc_html_read_line() In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3201 Ricardo Mones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #2 from Ricardo Mones --- Applied in master, thanks! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jun 1 19:01:13 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2014 17:01:13 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3201] Patch to fix memory corruption in sc_html_read_line() In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3201 --- Comment #3 from Colin Leroy --- Oops, the stupid mistake. Thanks Fabian! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jun 1 20:04:39 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2014 18:04:39 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3193] SSL Certificate changed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3193 lbickley changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Version|3.9.3 |GIT --- Comment #9 from lbickley --- Updated version to GIT since I'm running: 3.10.0-11-gfe5dbb -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From chr.graf at gmx.de Mon Jun 2 08:46:54 2014 From: chr.graf at gmx.de (christian graf) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 08:46:54 +0200 Subject: [Users] multithreaded when sending email? Message-ID: <20140602084654.41e2d6e0@T400> Dear all, I am still using claws 3.9.3 from dec. 2013 built. Rocksolid - thanks guys. One of my email-accounts has to authenticate against microsoft office 365 and this authentication takes upto 15secs. During authentication claws is not allowing to continue reading email. As I am sending lots of email a day, I would like to contuniue working with claws, even when one email is still authenticating/beeing sent out. I am wondering if this is either a config-error on my own or if even the latest claws-client could make sending/authenticating multithreaded? Any input much appreciated. thanks christian From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 2 13:51:41 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2014 11:51:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3202] New: libravatar: plugin crashes claws-mail when displaying message Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3202 Bug ID: 3202 Summary: libravatar: plugin crashes claws-mail when displaying message Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail (Windows) Version: 3.10.0 Hardware: PC OS: Windows 7 Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: default Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: mail at earthworm.de Installed latest version (claws-mail-3.10.0git2-pkg54), claws-mail crashes with libravatar plugin enabled: * enable libravatar plugin * select message in message list -> claws-mail crashes This worked perfectly fine with claws-mail 3.9.3-84 (or similar, do not remember the exact version). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 2 14:22:51 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2014 12:22:51 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3202] libravatar: plugin crashes claws-mail when displaying message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3202 --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones --- I don't have Windows, so please post a backtrace to help debugging this. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 2 14:44:31 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2014 12:44:31 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3202] libravatar: plugin crashes claws-mail when displaying message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3202 --- Comment #2 from Christian Hesse --- I do have Windows, but no idea how to get a backtrace there. Anybody with a hint? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 2 15:04:51 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2014 13:04:51 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3202] libravatar: plugin crashes claws-mail when displaying message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3202 --- Comment #3 from Colin Leroy --- I got one: Program received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap. 0x773f56bd in ntdll!RtlpNtMakeTemporaryKey () from C:\Windows\system32\ntdll.dll (gdb) bt #0 0x773f56bd in ntdll!RtlpNtMakeTemporaryKey () from C:\Windows\system32\ntdll.dll #1 0x773c1ab3 in ntdll!EtwSetMark () from C:\Windows\system32\ntdll.dll #2 0x773f6717 in ntdll!RtlpNtMakeTemporaryKey () from C:\Windows\system32\ntdll.dll #3 0x773ba13e in ntdll!EtwSetMark () from C:\Windows\system32\ntdll.dll #4 0x773865a6 in wcsnicmp () from C:\Windows\system32\ntdll.dll #5 0x7426313b in DnsLogIt () from C:\Windows\system32\dnsapi.dll #6 0x74263113 in DnsLogIt () from C:\Windows\system32\dnsapi.dll #7 0x742632c8 in DnsApiAlloc () from C:\Windows\system32\dnsapi.dll #8 0x74291cc2 in DnsFreeProxyName () from C:\Windows\system32\dnsapi.dll #9 0x6d5cfbae in libgio-2.0-0!g_threaded_resolver_get_type () from C:\Program Files\GNU\Claws Mail\libgio-2.0-0.dll #10 0x6d5cf693 in libgio-2.0-0!g_threaded_resolver_get_type () from C:\Program Files\GNU\Claws Mail\libgio-2.0-0.dll #11 0x6d5cfbf1 in libgio-2.0-0!g_threaded_resolver_get_type () from C:\Program Files\GNU\Claws Mail\libgio-2.0-0.dll #12 0x6d5be236 in libgio-2.0-0!g_resolver_lookup_service () from C:\Program Files\GNU\Claws Mail\libgio-2.0-0.dll #13 0x005cefce in claws-mail!auto_configure_service_sync () -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 2 15:09:12 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2014 13:09:12 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3202] auto configuration crashes if no result In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3202 Colin Leroy changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|libravatar: plugin crashes |auto configuration crashes |claws-mail when displaying |if no result |message | --- Comment #4 from Colin Leroy --- Apparently auto configuration crashes if no DNS response to the SRV query exists. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From jerry at seibercom.net Mon Jun 2 15:21:09 2014 From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 09:21:09 -0400 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3202] libravatar: plugin crashes claws-mail when displaying message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140602092109.5ccf7d94@scorpio> On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 12:44:31 +0000, noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk stated: > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3202 > > --- Comment #2 from Christian Hesse --- > I do have Windows, but no idea how to get a backtrace there. Anybody with a > hint? https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/How_to_get_a_backtrace_with_WinDbg -- Jerry From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 2 15:30:36 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2014 13:30:36 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3202] auto configuration crashes if no result In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3202 --- Comment #5 from Ricardo Mones --- D'oh! That's a bit surprising, or not. Anyway as a workaround you can uncheck "Enable federated servers", which prevent this call from happening within libravatar. In the long run this can be disabled when building for windows, for example, but better suggestions welcome. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From ricardo at mones.org Mon Jun 2 15:40:01 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 15:40:01 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3202] libravatar: plugin crashes claws-mail when displaying message In-Reply-To: <20140602092109.5ccf7d94@scorpio> References: <20140602092109.5ccf7d94@scorpio> Message-ID: <20140602134001.GC5413@trasgu> On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 09:21:09AM -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 12:44:31 +0000, noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk stated: > > > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3202 > > > > --- Comment #2 from Christian Hesse --- > > I do have Windows, but no idea how to get a backtrace there. Anybody with a > > hint? > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/How_to_get_a_backtrace_with_WinDbg Thanks! I've added this to the Debugging Claws page in FAQ wiki. regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ The three principal virtues of a programmer are Laziness, Impatience, and Hubris. man perl -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 2 15:42:07 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2014 13:42:07 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3202] auto configuration crashes if no result In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3202 --- Comment #6 from Christian Hesse --- The same happens when auto-configuring servers names. So is the a bug in claws-mail or the glib version shipped with claws-mail? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 2 15:44:25 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2014 13:44:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3202] auto configuration crashes if no result In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3202 --- Comment #7 from Colin Leroy --- I believe it's in glib, i'll investigate patching or upgrading our win32 glib: from a cursory glance, it's just trying to free an uninitialized result, and they've fixed it in at least 2.40. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From mm at edor.eu Mon Jun 2 16:03:46 2014 From: mm at edor.eu (Uwe) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 16:03:46 +0200 Subject: [Users] multithreaded when sending email? In-Reply-To: <20140602084654.41e2d6e0@T400> References: <20140602084654.41e2d6e0@T400> Message-ID: <20140602160346.688cc108@gp.inhouse.us> I use Postfix For Relaying Emails Through Another Mailserver, then all the sending and auth stuff is running in the background. Is very comfortable :-) Even for receiving messages I prefer using fetchmail, then this process is running in the background as well. Postfix setup for this: http://www.howtoforge.com/postfix_relaying_through_another_mailserver On Mon, 2 Jun 2014 08:46:54 +0200 christian graf wrote: > Dear all, > > I am still using claws 3.9.3 from dec. 2013 built. Rocksolid - thanks > guys. > > One of my email-accounts has to authenticate against microsoft office > 365 and this authentication takes upto 15secs. > During authentication claws is not allowing to continue reading email. > As I am sending lots of email a day, I would like to contuniue working > with claws, even when one email is still authenticating/beeing sent > out. > > I am wondering if this is either a config-error on my own or if even > the latest claws-client could make sending/authenticating > multithreaded? > > Any input much appreciated. > > thanks > > christian > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users best regards, Uwe From itz at buug.org Mon Jun 2 16:32:48 2014 From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 07:32:48 -0700 Subject: [Users] Spam Folder Best Practices In-Reply-To: <20140531124229.32d10898@mydesk> References: <5389F508.6080307@laposte.net> <20140531124229.32d10898@mydesk> Message-ID: <20140602073248.465be8ca.itz@buug.org> On Sat, 31 May 2014 12:42:29 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: Steve> You could make your own Dovecot IMAP server on your desktop, with Steve> its own folder structure. You could then, after spam processing, Steve> have Procmail drop messages in the correct Dovecot maildir Steve> directories. Quite off topic, but: You don't have to use procmail anymore ;) Dovecot has a Sieve plugin. I've just taken this step myself and it didn't hurt as much as I was afraid it would. -- Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages. From jerry at seibercom.net Mon Jun 2 16:39:54 2014 From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 10:39:54 -0400 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3202] libravatar: plugin crashes claws-mail when displaying message In-Reply-To: <20140602134001.GC5413@trasgu> References: <20140602092109.5ccf7d94@scorpio> <20140602134001.GC5413@trasgu> Message-ID: <20140602103954.26af7648@scorpio> On Mon, 2 Jun 2014 15:40:01 +0200, Ricardo Mones stated: > On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 09:21:09AM -0400, Jerry wrote: > > On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 12:44:31 +0000, noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk stated: > > > > > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3202 > > > > > > --- Comment #2 from Christian Hesse --- > > > I do have Windows, but no idea how to get a backtrace there. Anybody > > > with a hint? > > > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/How_to_get_a_backtrace_with_WinDbg > > Thanks! I've added this to the Debugging Claws page in FAQ wiki. > > regards, In that case, you might want to add this URL. It is probably more useful. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff551063%28v=vs.85%29.aspx -- Jerry From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 2 21:05:05 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2014 19:05:05 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3202] auto configuration crashes if no result In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3202 Colin Leroy changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #8 from Colin Leroy --- Filed upstream with a patch, and a new build's uploaded. For reference: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=731124 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 3 02:38:25 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 00:38:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3203] New: AddressBook Error Message Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3203 Bug ID: 3203 Summary: AddressBook Error Message Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.9.3 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Address Book Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: 93h16cv8rf at cogeco.ca Hello . . . Today I opened claws-mail and the following error message appeared, "Addressbook Error Could not read addressbook index" To my knowledge nothing out of the ordinary happened. This app has been installed with daily openings for over a year or so. Is a reinstall necessary? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 3 08:48:54 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 06:48:54 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3203] AddressBook Error Message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3203 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME --- Comment #1 from Paul --- No, a re-install is not necessary. You'll have a backup file here: ~/.claws-mail/addrbook/addrbook--index.xml.bak rename it addrbook--index.xml. Closing this as it appears to be a question only. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From chr.graf at gmx.de Tue Jun 3 09:21:15 2014 From: chr.graf at gmx.de (christian graf) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 09:21:15 +0200 Subject: [Users] multithreaded when sending email? In-Reply-To: <20140602160346.688cc108@gp.inhouse.us> References: <20140602084654.41e2d6e0@T400> <20140602160346.688cc108@gp.inhouse.us> Message-ID: <20140603092115.35beed19@T400> Hi Uwe, good idea:) thanks christian On Mon, 2 Jun 2014 16:03:46 +0200 Uwe wrote: > > I use Postfix For Relaying Emails Through Another Mailserver, then all > the sending and auth stuff is running in the background. Is very > comfortable :-) > Even for receiving messages I prefer using fetchmail, then this > process is running in the background as well. > > Postfix setup for this: > http://www.howtoforge.com/postfix_relaying_through_another_mailserver > > On Mon, 2 Jun 2014 08:46:54 +0200 > christian graf wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > > I am still using claws 3.9.3 from dec. 2013 built. Rocksolid - > > thanks guys. > > > > One of my email-accounts has to authenticate against microsoft > > office 365 and this authentication takes upto 15secs. > > During authentication claws is not allowing to continue reading > > email. As I am sending lots of email a day, I would like to > > contuniue working with claws, even when one email is still > > authenticating/beeing sent out. > > > > I am wondering if this is either a config-error on my own or if even > > the latest claws-client could make sending/authenticating > > multithreaded? > > > > Any input much appreciated. > > > > thanks > > > > christian > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > > > best regards, > Uwe > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 3 13:59:14 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 11:59:14 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3140] SRV Records for account auto configuration (RFC 6186) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3140 Colin Leroy changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From vitsen at gmx.com Tue Jun 3 15:08:09 2014 From: vitsen at gmx.com (vitsen at gmx.com) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 15:08:09 +0200 Subject: [Users] Safe list of authorized "From:" addresses for SMTP Message-ID: <538DC8B9.1050500@gmx.com> Hi my SMTP server allows me to send emails with ANY outgoing (From) address. While the lack of any restriction may be convenient in many cases, it also poses a potential problem, because sometimes I may misspell a From: email address, inserting an address that does not even exist, and this would create a problem for the recipient who wants to get back to me and cannot because of the wrong address provided by me. Is there a way in Claws Mail to define a safe list of authorized outgoing email addresses? For a given account, only those "From:" addresses included in such list would be allowed to go through the SMTP servers, while unknown addresses would raise an error message. Thanks Stefano From brad at fineby.me.uk Tue Jun 3 15:25:59 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 14:25:59 +0100 Subject: [Users] Safe list of authorized "From:" addresses for SMTP In-Reply-To: <538DC8B9.1050500@gmx.com> References: <538DC8B9.1050500@gmx.com> Message-ID: <20140603142559.55baa995@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 15:08:09 +0200 vitsen at gmx.com wrote: Hello vitsen at gmx.com, >Is there a way in Claws Mail to define a safe list of authorized >outgoing email addresses? AFAIUI, the address book won't work with From: addresses, so that's out. However, one way is to create SMTP only accounts that each has its own email address specified which is always used to send mail. Then you only have to select the correct SMTP account to send mail from. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Buy some love at the five and dime You Have Placed A Chill In My Heart - Eurythmics -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 3 18:57:04 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 16:57:04 -0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3170] QuickSearch fights with View/Hide read threads menu option In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3170 --- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2014-06-03 18:57:02.809596232 +0200 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=e2ef53fd166bd0ce468587ca25df096364ccd24f Merge: 05de74e f9985ae Author: Colin Leroy Date: Tue Jun 3 18:57:02 2014 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=f9985ae65ffaad270013e2ecb618e4556a4411e3 Author: Paul Date: Tue Jun 3 17:56:15 2014 +0100 fix bug 3170, 'QuickSearch fights with View/Hide read threads menu option' -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 3 18:59:37 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 16:59:37 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3196] When changing quicksearch Search Type, set focus to search input box In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3196 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From edodd55 at gmail.com Tue Jun 3 22:26:24 2014 From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 06:26:24 +1000 Subject: [Users] Safe list of authorized "From:" addresses for SMTP In-Reply-To: <20140603142559.55baa995@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <538DC8B9.1050500@gmx.com> <20140603142559.55baa995@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140604062624.385cfc30.edodd55@gmail.com> On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 14:25:59 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: > On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 15:08:09 +0200 > vitsen at gmx.com wrote: > > Hello vitsen at gmx.com, > > >Is there a way in Claws Mail to define a safe list of authorized > >outgoing email addresses? > > AFAIUI, the address book won't work with From: addresses, so that's > out. However, one way is to create SMTP only accounts that each has > its own email address specified which is always used to send mail. > Then you only have to select the correct SMTP account to send mail > from. > Then you can automatically send from the correct SMTP account for the current mail, by setting the correct from address in the properties for all your mailing lists, friends etc. From vitsen at gmx.com Tue Jun 3 22:45:01 2014 From: vitsen at gmx.com (vitsen at gmx.com) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:45:01 +0200 Subject: [Users] Safe list of authorized "From:" addresses for SMTP In-Reply-To: <20140604062624.385cfc30.edodd55@gmail.com> References: <538DC8B9.1050500@gmx.com> <20140603142559.55baa995@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140604062624.385cfc30.edodd55@gmail.com> Message-ID: <538E33CD.2000902@gmx.com> On 2014-06-03 22:26, Liz wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 14:25:59 +0100 > Brad Rogers wrote: > >> On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 15:08:09 +0200 >> vitsen at gmx.com wrote: >> >> Hello vitsen at gmx.com, >> >>> Is there a way in Claws Mail to define a safe list of authorized >>> outgoing email addresses? >> >> AFAIUI, the address book won't work with From: addresses, so that's >> out. However, one way is to create SMTP only accounts that each has >> its own email address specified which is always used to send mail. >> Then you only have to select the correct SMTP account to send mail >> from. >> > > Then you can automatically send from the correct SMTP account for the > current mail, by setting the correct from address in the properties for > all your mailing lists, friends etc. I am not quite sure how convenient such a solution would be. In fact, I doubt that it would be a satisfactory at all, especially in view of the fact that my 'From:' addresses would change over time (quite often, actually). In such case, a static solution as the one proposed above would not be good enough, I am afraid. What I am suggesting, instead (assuming that some other solution is not already available), is a new feature: the implementation of a list of authorized From: addresses (on a per-account basis) which can be changed dynamically, possibly via Python scripts. Could some of the developers please comment on this? Thank you. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 3 22:51:22 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 21:51:22 +0100 Subject: [Users] Safe list of authorized "From:" addresses for SMTP In-Reply-To: <538E33CD.2000902@gmx.com> References: <538DC8B9.1050500@gmx.com> <20140603142559.55baa995@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140604062624.385cfc30.edodd55@gmail.com> <538E33CD.2000902@gmx.com> Message-ID: <20140603215122.3da50de6@thewildbeast> On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:45:01 +0200 vitsen at gmx.com wrote: > What I am suggesting, instead (assuming that some other solution is > not already available), is a new feature: the implementation of a > list of authorized From: addresses (on a per-account basis) which > can be changed dynamically, possibly via Python scripts. > > Could some of the developers please comment on this? Maintaining a list of authorised From addresses is basically the same as maintaining a bunch of SMTP-only accounts. The effort involved is comparable. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From vitsen at gmx.com Tue Jun 3 22:58:00 2014 From: vitsen at gmx.com (vitsen at gmx.com) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:58:00 +0200 Subject: [Users] Safe list of authorized "From:" addresses for SMTP In-Reply-To: <20140603215122.3da50de6@thewildbeast> References: <538DC8B9.1050500@gmx.com> <20140603142559.55baa995@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140604062624.385cfc30.edodd55@gmail.com> <538E33CD.2000902@gmx.com> <20140603215122.3da50de6@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <538E36D8.3060607@gmx.com> On 2014-06-03 22:51, Paul wrote: > Maintaining a list of authorised From addresses is basically the same > as maintaining a bunch of SMTP-only accounts. The effort involved is > comparable. Thanks, Paul, for your quick comment. I am not sure I follow your reasoning. Can the settings of SMTP-only accounts be changed dynamically via the Python plugin? From sylpheed at 911networks.com Tue Jun 3 23:21:11 2014 From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 14:21:11 -0700 Subject: [Users] pop3s Message-ID: <20140603142111.5e5284ba@frogguski.911networks.com> Hi, How do I configure CM 3.10 to pickup mail on a server that uses pop3s? The 'so-called admin' said it was configured for: "Secure POP3S" pop3s should be port 995 and ssmtp should be 465. How do I set the ports in CM? -- Thanks When the network has to work From bugreporter at abwesend.de Tue Jun 3 23:30:41 2014 From: bugreporter at abwesend.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 23:30:41 +0200 Subject: [Users] pop3s In-Reply-To: <20140603142111.5e5284ba@frogguski.911networks.com> References: <20140603142111.5e5284ba@frogguski.911networks.com> Message-ID: <20140603233041.1a301c71@noname> On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 14:21:11 -0700, sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote: > Hi, > > How do I configure CM 3.10 to pickup mail on a server that uses > pop3s? > > The 'so-called admin' said it was configured for: "Secure POP3S" > > pop3s should be port 995 and ssmtp should be 465. How do I set the > ports in CM? When you Create/Edit an account, there is an "Advanced" options choice in the dialog. From bugreporter at abwesend.de Tue Jun 3 23:34:53 2014 From: bugreporter at abwesend.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 23:34:53 +0200 Subject: [Users] pop3s In-Reply-To: <20140603233041.1a301c71@noname> References: <20140603142111.5e5284ba@frogguski.911networks.com> <20140603233041.1a301c71@noname> Message-ID: <20140603233453.696d0718@noname> On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 23:30:41 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 14:21:11 -0700, sylpheed…911networks.com wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > How do I configure CM 3.10 to pickup mail on a server that uses > > pop3s? > > > > The 'so-called admin' said it was configured for: "Secure POP3S" > > > > pop3s should be port 995 and ssmtp should be 465. How do I set the > > ports in CM? > > When you Create/Edit an account, there is an "Advanced" options choice in > the dialog. Rather than changing the ports, you probably want to enable SSL in the account settings, because then the default ports will be 995/465, and only changing the ports without enabling SSL won't work for POP3S. From brad at fineby.me.uk Tue Jun 3 23:05:16 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 22:05:16 +0100 Subject: [Users] Safe list of authorized "From:" addresses for SMTP In-Reply-To: <538E33CD.2000902@gmx.com> References: <538DC8B9.1050500@gmx.com> <20140603142559.55baa995@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140604062624.385cfc30.edodd55@gmail.com> <538E33CD.2000902@gmx.com> Message-ID: <20140603220516.4a09a6da@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:45:01 +0200 vitsen at gmx.com wrote: Hello vitsen at gmx.com, >doubt that it would be a satisfactory at all, especially in view of the >fact that my 'From:' addresses would change over time (quite often, Just reassign a new address to the account with the address that's gone cold. 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From himemsys36 at hotmail.com Thu Jun 5 00:43:20 2014 From: himemsys36 at hotmail.com (Tim Zakharov) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 17:43:20 -0500 Subject: [Users] Selectively using Spam Assassin plugin on certain accounts In-Reply-To: References: <20140528191000.66642bfd@thewildbeast> <20140528113607.3a6d6218@frogguski.911networks.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 May 2014 11:41:43 -0700 Dan Lyke wrote: > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:36 AM, wrote: > > How does the Bogofilter compares with SpamAssassin? I'm currently > > running Bogo and there are plenty of new spam coming through that's > > not being caught by Bogo... > > I believe that they take different approaches: Spam Assassin works by > heuristics and keyword searching, Bogofilter works by statistical > analysis. If you're getting spam, layering the two together might not > be a bad idea. > > Although now that I've trained Bogofilter very extensively, I'm very > happy with its results. > > Dan > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > Just be aware that the SpamAssassin service consumes about 100 MB of RAM and that each email takes about 15 seconds to scan. At least that was the case on my system. -- Regards, Tim Zakharov From arekfu at yahoo.it Thu Jun 5 10:41:50 2014 From: arekfu at yahoo.it (Davide Mancusi) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 10:41:50 +0200 Subject: [Users] configuring IMAP over SSH tunnel Message-ID: Hello, My IMAP server cannot be reached from the Internet, but I can ssh into a front-end machine and reach it from there. Claws Mail claims to support IMAP over SSH tunnel, and I noticed that the account configuration window has a "Use command to communicate with server" option. However, I could not find any documentation about how I should set up the connection. Can anyone please give me some guidance? What command should I use? Thank you in advance. Cheers, Davide From mir at miras.org Thu Jun 5 11:06:12 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 11:06:12 +0200 Subject: [Users] configuring IMAP over SSH tunnel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140605110612.53b7767e@sleipner.datanom.net> On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 10:41:50 +0200 Davide Mancusi wrote: > Hello, > > My IMAP server cannot be reached from the Internet, but I can ssh into > a front-end machine and reach it from there. Claws Mail claims to > support IMAP over SSH tunnel, and I noticed that the account > configuration window has a "Use command to communicate with server" > option. However, I could not find any documentation about how I should > set up the connection. Can anyone please give me some guidance? What > command should I use? > You could make a reverse SSH tunnel from your computer to the server and then instruct claws to use this port when connecting to your mail server. http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2013/11/reverse-ssh-tunnel/ -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: Using words to describe magic is like using a screwdriver to cut roast beef. -- Tom Robbins -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail (Windows) Version: 3.10.0 Hardware: PC OS: Windows 8 Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: default Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: plop at yopmail.com with windows 8.* claws must be in the registered applications to be usable as a mailto:protocol handler in the system "default apps" settings, it seem to work fine with the following register changes: Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Claws-Mail.Url.mailto] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Claws-Mail.Url.mailto\shell] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Claws-Mail.Url.mailto\shell\open] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Claws-Mail.Url.mailto\shell\open\command] @="C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Claws Mail\\claws-mail.exe --compose %1" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Clients\Mail\Claws Mail\Capabilities] "ApplicationDescription"="Claws email client" "ApplicationIcon"="C:\Program Files (x86)\Claws Mail\claws-mail.exe,0" "ApplicationName"="Claws Mail" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Clients\Mail\Claws Mail\Capabilities\URLAssociations] "mailto"="Claws-Mail.Url.mailto" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\RegisteredApplications] "Claws Mail"="Software\\Clients\\Mail\\Claws Mail\\Capabilities" hope this help. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From arekfu at yahoo.it Thu Jun 5 11:40:53 2014 From: arekfu at yahoo.it (Davide Mancusi) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 11:40:53 +0200 Subject: [Users] configuring IMAP over SSH tunnel In-Reply-To: <20140605110612.53b7767e@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20140605110612.53b7767e@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: > You could make a reverse SSH tunnel from your computer to the server > and then instruct claws to use this port when connecting to your mail > server. So you mean that the custom command gets executed, and then claws connects to the server defined in the relevant field? For some reason I was assuming that the IMAP commands were sent through the stdin of the custom command, but I guess I was wrong. Also, will the custom command get executed when connecting to the SMTP server? Thank you for your answer. Davide From mir at miras.org Thu Jun 5 12:44:59 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 12:44:59 +0200 Subject: [Users] configuring IMAP over SSH tunnel In-Reply-To: References: <20140605110612.53b7767e@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20140605124459.35d770a0@sleipner.datanom.net> On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 11:40:53 +0200 Davide Mancusi wrote: > > Also, will the custom command get executed when connecting to the SMTP server? > This is something you must take care of before starting class. You could create a bash script which take care of starting the SSH tunnel as well as starting claws when the tunnel is available. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: Schshschshchsch. -- The Gorn, "Arena", stardate 3046.2 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From arekfu at yahoo.it Thu Jun 5 13:02:05 2014 From: arekfu at yahoo.it (Davide Mancusi) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 13:02:05 +0200 Subject: [Users] configuring IMAP over SSH tunnel In-Reply-To: <20140605124459.35d770a0@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20140605110612.53b7767e@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140605124459.35d770a0@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: OK, so now I'm stumped. I have written a script that invokes ssh like this: ssh -fN -L34599:imap_server:993 tunnel_host where imap_server and tunnel_host are of course the full hostnames. I have also set up claws to use localhost:34599 for IMAP. Now, if I run the script in a shell and then check mail in claws, it works fine. If I put the path to my script in the "Use command to communicate with server" field, the connection fails and the network log shows * Account 'xxxxxx': Connecting to IMAP4 server: localhost:34599... ** IMAP error on localhost: stream error *** Can't connect to IMAP4 server: localhost:34599 So I guess the question comes back to what the "Use command to communicate with server" field is doing behind the scenes. Davide From tclx at klekih-petra.de Thu Jun 5 13:13:51 2014 From: tclx at klekih-petra.de (Tobias Crefeld) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 13:13:51 +0200 Subject: [Users] configuring IMAP over SSH tunnel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140605131351.7043bc6c@tux3d.tangocharly> Am Thu, 5 Jun 2014 10:41:50 +0200 schrieb Davide Mancusi : > My IMAP server cannot be reached from the Internet, but I can ssh into > a front-end machine and reach it from there. Claws Mail claims to > support IMAP over SSH tunnel, and I noticed that the account > configuration window has a "Use command to communicate with server" > option. I'm not familiar with this option so my reply doesn't fit exactly to your question but as I am using ssh-tunnel as well in order to get access to my imap / smtp server when I'm on the road my setup might be helpful. Before starting claws-mail I open a ssh-connection in a separate terminal window (actually with an alias): ssh -L 2525:local-smtp-ip:25 -L 1143:local-imap-ip:143 public-ip Of course you could use numerical IP-address or FQDN for local and public IP addresses. If the smtp- or imap-server is running on the same machine as the sshd you could use "localhost" as address for local-smtp-ip or local-imap-ip. I keep it open as long as claws-mail is running - actually after connecting to an IMAP server it is not possible to close the ssh-session as long as claws-mail runs... After starting claws-mail you have to change the account data to new addresses and ports for imap and smtp. SMTP: localhost:2525 IMAP: localhost:1143 Of course you could use any other port on localhost as well, but using ports < 1024 is not allowed without being root and there is no need to use the same port addresses as the destination ports. It's the same with the destination ports. Especially if you use TLS you probably want to use other ports to access IMAP and/or SMTP service. Just replace the respective hostport entries in the ssh statement above. Of course there is this slight disadvantage that without resetting the account data for the SMTP and IMAP services I always have to use the ssh-tunnel from this client PC no matter whether I'm on the road or have LAN access. In my environment this doesn't matter but you should check your access to the public IP from your LAN. -- Gruß, Tobias. no email, only xmpp: crefeld at xabber.de From arekfu at yahoo.it Thu Jun 5 14:41:52 2014 From: arekfu at yahoo.it (Davide Mancusi) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 14:41:52 +0200 Subject: [Users] configuring IMAP over SSH tunnel In-Reply-To: <20140605131351.7043bc6c@tux3d.tangocharly> References: <20140605131351.7043bc6c@tux3d.tangocharly> Message-ID: > Before starting claws-mail I open a ssh-connection in a separate > terminal window (actually with an alias): > > ssh -L 2525:local-smtp-ip:25 -L 1143:local-imap-ip:143 public-ip > > Of course you could use numerical IP-address or FQDN for local and > public IP addresses. > If the smtp- or imap-server is running on the same machine as the sshd > you could use "localhost" as address for local-smtp-ip or local-imap-ip. > [...] Tobias, thank you for sharing. This is exactly what I do, and it works if I start the tunnel from a separate shell. It doesn't if I use the configuration field. > Of course there is this slight disadvantage that without resetting the > account data for the SMTP and IMAP services I always have to use the > ssh-tunnel from this client PC no matter whether I'm on the road or > have LAN access. In my environment this doesn't matter but you should > check your access to the public IP from your LAN. Well I thought I might get away with a script that checks my current IP and calls nc if I'm on the LAN at work. I do something similar for tunnelling ssh connections and it works fine. Cheers, Davide From mir at miras.org Thu Jun 5 15:09:45 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 15:09:45 +0200 Subject: [Users] configuring IMAP over SSH tunnel In-Reply-To: References: <20140605131351.7043bc6c@tux3d.tangocharly> Message-ID: <20140605150945.6fbf72ff@sleipner.datanom.net> On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 14:41:52 +0200 Davide Mancusi wrote: > > Tobias, thank you for sharing. This is exactly what I do, and it works > if I start the tunnel from a separate shell. It doesn't if I use the > configuration field. > The field is used to specify custom protocol commands as part of the conversation. IMHO it cannot be used to specify commands prior to the connection. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: The curse of the Irish is not that they don't know the words to a song -- it's that they know them *___all*. -- Susan Dooley -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From finkandreas at web.de Thu Jun 5 15:21:43 2014 From: finkandreas at web.de (Andreas Fink) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 15:21:43 +0200 Subject: [Users] configuring IMAP over SSH tunnel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140605152143.1a329053@masc> On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 10:41:50 +0200 Davide Mancusi wrote: > Hello, > > My IMAP server cannot be reached from the Internet, but I can ssh into > a front-end machine and reach it from there. Claws Mail claims to > support IMAP over SSH tunnel, and I noticed that the account > configuration window has a "Use command to communicate with server" > option. However, I could not find any documentation about how I should > set up the connection. Can anyone please give me some guidance? What > command should I use? > > Thank you in advance. > > Cheers, > Davide > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users According to this website in german http://www.wgmd.de/wordpress/?cat=6 you have to use as command: ssh -q PUBLIC_SERVER nc IMAP_SERVER 143 Maybe you also need to replace the 143 with another port if you're using SSL. However the answer to your question should be to use the unix tool 'nc' which forwards the incoming requests and sends back the responses... Cheers Andreas From andrej at kacian.sk Thu Jun 5 15:30:59 2014 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 15:30:59 +0200 Subject: [Users] configuring IMAP over SSH tunnel In-Reply-To: <20140605152143.1a329053@masc> References: <20140605152143.1a329053@masc> Message-ID: <20140605153059.0e00b7d2@penny> On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 15:21:43 +0200 Andreas Fink wrote: > According to this website in german http://www.wgmd.de/wordpress/?cat=6 > you have to use as command: > ssh -q PUBLIC_SERVER nc IMAP_SERVER 143 This is obsolete. Modern openssh client now has -W option to forward stdin to desired host:port, like so: "ssh -q -W IMAP_SERVER:143 PUBLIC_SERVER". No need to have netcat anymore. :) -- Andrej Kacian From arekfu at yahoo.it Thu Jun 5 15:41:30 2014 From: arekfu at yahoo.it (Davide Mancusi) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 15:41:30 +0200 Subject: [Users] configuring IMAP over SSH tunnel In-Reply-To: <20140605150945.6fbf72ff@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20140605131351.7043bc6c@tux3d.tangocharly> <20140605150945.6fbf72ff@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: > The field is used to specify custom protocol commands as part of the > conversation. IMHO it cannot be used to specify commands prior to the > connection. It would be really great if this functionality were documented in the FAQ or the manual! Davide From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Thu Jun 5 16:26:55 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 15:26:55 +0100 Subject: [Users] configuring IMAP over SSH tunnel In-Reply-To: References: <20140605131351.7043bc6c@tux3d.tangocharly> <20140605150945.6fbf72ff@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20140605152655.000053c9@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 15:41:30 +0200 Davide Mancusi wrote: > It would be really great if this functionality were documented in the > FAQ or the manual! Patches are welcome! ;-) -- Brian Morrison From arekfu at yahoo.it Thu Jun 5 16:31:00 2014 From: arekfu at yahoo.it (Davide Mancusi) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 16:31:00 +0200 Subject: [Users] configuring IMAP over SSH tunnel In-Reply-To: <20140605152655.000053c9@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> References: <20140605131351.7043bc6c@tux3d.tangocharly> <20140605150945.6fbf72ff@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140605152655.000053c9@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: >> It would be really great if this functionality were documented in the >> FAQ or the manual! > > Patches are welcome! But I'm the one asking how it works! :-) I don't know that! Davide From edodd55 at gmail.com Thu Jun 5 22:44:40 2014 From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 06:44:40 +1000 Subject: [Users] configuring IMAP over SSH tunnel In-Reply-To: References: <20140605131351.7043bc6c@tux3d.tangocharly> <20140605150945.6fbf72ff@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140605152655.000053c9@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140606064440.61f2f662.edodd55@gmail.com> On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 16:31:00 +0200 Davide Mancusi wrote: > >> It would be really great if this functionality were documented in > >> the FAQ or the manual! > > > > Patches are welcome! > > But I'm the one asking how it works! :-) I don't know that! The person learning how it works can write the best documentation. Liz From arekfu at yahoo.it Fri Jun 6 00:02:57 2014 From: arekfu at yahoo.it (Davide Mancusi) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 00:02:57 +0200 Subject: [Users] configuring IMAP over SSH tunnel In-Reply-To: <20140606064440.61f2f662.edodd55@gmail.com> References: <20140605131351.7043bc6c@tux3d.tangocharly> <20140605150945.6fbf72ff@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140605152655.000053c9@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20140606064440.61f2f662.edodd55@gmail.com> Message-ID: > The person learning how it works can write the best documentation. Is this the new RTFM? I would gladly provide a patch for the manual if someone explains how this option is supposed to work. I'm willing to experiment and I even tried to read the source code, but I'm unable to understand how claws handles the custom command without some basic knowledge about IMAP, POSIX programming and claws itself. Davide -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danlyke at flutterby.com Fri Jun 6 00:25:28 2014 From: danlyke at flutterby.com (Dan Lyke) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 15:25:28 -0700 Subject: [Users] configuring IMAP over SSH tunnel In-Reply-To: References: <20140605131351.7043bc6c@tux3d.tangocharly> <20140605150945.6fbf72ff@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140605152655.000053c9@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20140606064440.61f2f662.edodd55@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Davide Mancusi wrote: > Is this the new RTFM? I would gladly provide a patch for the manual if > someone explains how this option is supposed to work. I'm willing to > experiment and I even tried to read the source code, but I'm unable to > understand how claws handles the custom command without some > basic knowledge about IMAP, POSIX programming and claws itself. I don't know how this works in Claws, I haven't been following this thread, and don't have the specifics to set this up, but when I've implemented SSH tunnels... SSH can connect to a remote service without prompting for a password if you copy ~/.ssh/id_*.pub (whichever you have) to the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote machine. Roughly, this lets the remote machine say "hey, if someone tries to log in with this key signature, let me send them a 'nonce' encrypted with my private key and their public key, and if they can decrypt it with their private key and my public key and then send me back a variant, then I know that the public key I have for them matches their private key". (You can do this on Windows too, just like most things on Windows it's a pain in the tailfeathers, and harder to describe and depends on which SSH client you're using.) You can also forward random ports over SSH, like so: ssh -L1220:localhost:220 me at remoteserver.example.com This starts listening on the local port 1220, starts an ssh session to me at remoteserver.example.com, and then, on the far end, attempts to connect to 220 on the localhost interface (on the remote machine). So if I try to connect to *my* localhost:1220, the connection invisibly goes through to remoteserver.example.com's localhost:220. If I were the dude implementing this, what I'd have done is set up the "Account preferences->Advanced->Use command to communicate with server" option to start an SSH session like this, so that if I configured the account to use localhost:1220 as my IMAP host and port, it would get SSH tunnelled to the remote side. If you wanted to test this procedure, see if I'm smoking crack or right on the money, and figure out the tweaks necessary to make it work with Claws, you'd be awesome and amazing and a bunch of other cool "a" words. Dan From zaphod at berentweb.com Fri Jun 6 07:49:50 2014 From: zaphod at berentweb.com (Beeblebrox) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 08:49:50 +0300 Subject: [Users] Limit date range for IMAP sync Message-ID: Hi. I'm new to Claws-Mail and was unable to locate a feature available in mozilla-based (Thunderbird, Seamonkey) programs. When sync'ing IMAP accounts I'd like to be able to set the the "sync date range", thereby limiting the synced mails to the last 30 days for example (date range is left to user preference). By only syncing the last 30 days, you prevent a massive download of past 5 years of data, which really is not needed. P.S. I don't want to use a folder-structure scheme to accomplish this (sync only one folder, then move at the end of 30 days etc..) Thanks and Regards. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chris at marlows.org Fri Jun 6 08:19:30 2014 From: chris at marlows.org (c. marlow) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 01:19:30 -0500 Subject: [Users] Wacked inbox view Message-ID: <20140606011930.00c67387@COMPAQ> Hello, I am a first time CLAWS user and I would like to know is there a way to change the way the inbox is displayed? as in: FROM SUBJECT instead of: SUBJECT FROM I think thats backawards you're able to change it in TBIRD but drag and drop does not work in CLAWS? Thanks, Christopher -- ~ Christopher ~ chris at marlows.org ============================================ **DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted from chris at marlows.org, and to chris at marlows.com, are solely intended for the use of the addressee(s) and may contain information that is confidential and privileged. If you receive this email in error, please advise me by return email immediately. Please also disregard the contents of the email, delete it and destroy any copies immediately. All emails incoming and outgoing are kept for my personal use and are kept on file and archived away INDEFINITELY. From claws-mail-users at dino.sk Fri Jun 6 08:28:57 2014 From: claws-mail-users at dino.sk (Milan Obuch) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 08:28:57 +0200 Subject: [Users] Wacked inbox view In-Reply-To: <20140606011930.00c67387@COMPAQ> References: <20140606011930.00c67387@COMPAQ> Message-ID: <20140606082857.3dce6884@zeta.dino.sk> On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 01:19:30 -0500 "c. marlow" wrote: > Hello, > > I am a first time CLAWS user and I would like to know is there a way > to change the way the inbox is displayed? as in: > > FROM SUBJECT > > instead of: > > SUBJECT FROM > > > I think thats backawards you're able to change it in TBIRD but drag > and drop does not work in CLAWS? > > Thanks, > Christopher > Hi, it is not drag-and-drop, but you should select in claws' menu View -> Set displayed columns -> In message list, then you see two columns, Hidden columns an Displayed columns. There are Up and Down buttons, where you can change order how displayed columns are ordered the way you like, suppress display of those you don't need or add some others. Hope this helps, a bit :) Milan From colin at colino.net Fri Jun 6 09:20:12 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 09:20:12 +0200 Subject: [Users] Wacked inbox view In-Reply-To: <20140606011930.00c67387@COMPAQ> References: <20140606011930.00c67387@COMPAQ> Message-ID: <20140606092012.7e102edb@colin.i-run.lau> On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 01:19:30 -0500, "c. marlow" wrote: > I think thats backawards you're able to change it in TBIRD but drag > and drop does not work in CLAWS? Menu View/Set displayed columns/In folder list... Lets you rearrange, add and remove columns as you want. -- Colin From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Jun 6 10:03:12 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2014 08:03:12 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3205] New: deadlock while checking the signature Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3205 Bug ID: 3205 Summary: deadlock while checking the signature Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.9.3 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Other Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: mihai.dontu at gmail.com I was trying to read an email from the Ubuntu security team and when I clicked on it in the message pane, at the bottom of the message viewer "Checking signature ..." appeared and the entire application froze. From what I can see, there's a lot of signal unsafe stuff being made in a signal handler: #0 __lll_lock_wait () at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/lowlevellock.S:135 #1 0x000000353c80a4dd in _L_lock_1109 () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0 #2 0x000000353c80a457 in __GI___pthread_mutex_lock (mutex=0x1ef9840) at ../nptl/pthread_mutex_lock.c:134 #3 0x0000003fcd08e9e1 in g_mutex_lock (mutex=mutex at entry=0x1efe330) at /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.40.0/work/glib-2.40.0/glib/gthread-posix.c:209 #4 0x0000003fcd048318 in g_source_attach (source=0x20930ed0, context=0x1efe330) at /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.40.0/work/glib-2.40.0/glib/gmain.c:1142 #5 0x0000003fcd04b3b3 in g_timeout_add_full (priority=0, interval=, function=0x4b4040 , data=0x0, notify=0x0) at /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.40.0/work/glib-2.40.0/glib/gmain.c:4593 #6 #7 __lll_lock_wait () at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/lowlevellock.S:135 #8 0x000000353c80a4dd in _L_lock_1109 () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0 #9 0x000000353c80a457 in __GI___pthread_mutex_lock (mutex=0x1ef9840) at ../nptl/pthread_mutex_lock.c:134 #10 0x0000003fcd08e9e1 in g_mutex_lock (mutex=mutex at entry=0x1efe330) at /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.40.0/work/glib-2.40.0/glib/gthread-posix.c:209 #11 0x0000003fcd048318 in g_source_attach (source=0x18dd0a40, context=0x1efe330) at /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.40.0/work/glib-2.40.0/glib/gmain.c:1142 #12 0x0000003fcd04b5a0 in g_idle_add_full (priority=200, function=0x345221dbc0 , data=0x41dda220, notify=0x345221db90 ) at /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.40.0/work/glib-2.40.0/glib/gmain.c:5382 #13 0x000000345283f3be in gtk_widget_queue_tooltip_query () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #14 0x0000003fcd817b58 in object_set_property (nqueue=, value=, pspec=, object=) at /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.40.0/work/glib-2.40.0/gobject/gobject.c:1378 #15 g_object_set_valist (object=0x21e2520, first_property_name=0x1f12660 "\300A\360\001", var_args=0x7fff313bbdd0) at 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/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.40.0/work/glib-2.40.0/gobject/gsignal.c:3215 #23 0x0000003fcd82af37 in g_signal_emit (instance=, signal_id=, detail=) at /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.40.0/work/glib-2.40.0/gobject/gsignal.c:3363 #24 0x000000345280d51b in gtk_tree_selection_select_path () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #25 0x000000345280d60d in gtk_tree_selection_select_iter () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #26 0x00000000004d94ba in icon_selected.isra () #27 0x00000000004d008c in messageview_show () #28 0x000000000055b8e8 in summary_display_msg_full () #29 0x000000000055c67a in summary_selected () #30 0x0000003fcd80fee5 in g_closure_invoke (closure=0x41948220, return_value=0x0, n_param_values=3, param_values=0x7fff313bf640, invocation_hint=0x7fff313bf5e0) at /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.40.0/work/glib-2.40.0/gobject/gclosure.c:768 #31 0x0000003fcd82248c in signal_emit_unlocked_R (node=node at entry=0x1f7fba0, detail=detail at entry=0, instance=instance at entry=0x1ef2610, emission_return=emission_return at entry=0x0, instance_and_params=instance_and_params at entry=0x7fff313bf640) at /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.40.0/work/glib-2.40.0/gobject/gsignal.c:3551 #32 0x0000003fcd82acd4 in g_signal_emit_valist (instance=, signal_id=, detail=, var_args=) at /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.40.0/work/glib-2.40.0/gobject/gsignal.c:3307 #33 0x0000003fcd82b48a in g_signal_emit_by_name (instance=0x1ef9840, detailed_signal=0x80 ) at /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.40.0/work/glib-2.40.0/gobject/gsignal.c:3403 #34 0x000000000061c8b4 in select_row () #35 0x000000000055c126 in summary_select_node () #36 0x000000000056f910 in toolbar_next_unread_cb () #37 0x0000003fcd810114 in _g_closure_invoke_va (closure=0x1ef9840, closure at entry=0x20ef750, return_value=0x80, return_value at entry=0x0, instance=0x55, instance at entry=0x20bdc60, args=0xffffffffffffffff, args at entry=0x7fff313c0c98, n_params=32479296, param_types=0x209304b0) at /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.40.0/work/glib-2.40.0/gobject/gclosure.c:831 #38 0x0000003fcd82a5d7 in g_signal_emit_valist (instance=0x20bdc60, signal_id=, detail=0, var_args=0x7fff313c0c98) at /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.40.0/work/glib-2.40.0/gobject/gsignal.c:3215 #39 0x0000003fcd82b48a in g_signal_emit_by_name (instance=0x1ef9840, detailed_signal=0x80 ) at /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.40.0/work/glib-2.40.0/gobject/gsignal.c:3403 #40 0x0000003fcd810114 in _g_closure_invoke_va (closure=0x1ef9840, closure at entry=0x20ef570, return_value=0x80, return_value at entry=0x0, instance=0x55, instance at entry=0x20b6650, args=0xffffffffffffffff, args at entry=0x7fff313c0fb0, n_params=32479296, param_types=0x209304b0) at /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.40.0/work/glib-2.40.0/gobject/gclosure.c:831 #41 0x0000003fcd82a5d7 in g_signal_emit_valist (instance=0x20b6650, signal_id=, detail=0, var_args=var_args at entry=0x7fff313c0fb0) at /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.40.0/work/glib-2.40.0/gobject/gsignal.c:3215 #42 0x0000003fcd82af37 in g_signal_emit (instance=, signal_id=, detail=) at /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.40.0/work/glib-2.40.0/gobject/gsignal.c:3363 #43 0x000000345268c335 in gtk_real_button_released () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #44 0x0000003fcd810114 in _g_closure_invoke_va (closure=0x1ef9840, closure at entry=0x1f7d1a0, return_value=0x80, return_value at entry=0x0, instance=0x55, instance at entry=0x20b6650, args=0xffffffffffffffff, args at entry=0x7fff313c1280, n_params=32479296, param_types=0x209304b0) at /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.40.0/work/glib-2.40.0/gobject/gclosure.c:831 #45 0x0000003fcd82a5d7 in g_signal_emit_valist (instance=0x20b6650, signal_id=, detail=0, var_args=var_args at entry=0x7fff313c1280) at /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.40.0/work/glib-2.40.0/gobject/gsignal.c:3215 I assume the signal is SIGCHLD, because there's a zombie claws-mail process waiting to be reaped by its parent (claws-mail). Probably it was tasked to check the signature. I see this in '.xsession-errors': SSL Observatory: Cert submission failure 0: SSL Observatory: Planning to retry submission... SSL Observatory: Cert submission failure 0: SSL Observatory: Planning to retry submission... (claws-mail:5245): GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 4294967295 was not found when attempting to remove it (claws-mail:5245): GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 66119 was not found when attempting to remove it SSL Observatory: Cert submission failure 0: SSL Observatory: Retrying a submission... SSL Observatory: Retrying a submission... SSL Observatory: Retrying a submission... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From himemsys36 at hotmail.com Fri Jun 6 13:44:59 2014 From: himemsys36 at hotmail.com (Tim Zakharov) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 06:44:59 -0500 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3193] New: SSL Certificate changed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 29 May 2014 05:19:13 +0000 noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3193 > > Bug ID: 3193 > Summary: SSL Certificate changed > Classification: Unclassified > Product: Claws Mail > Version: 3.9.3 > Hardware: PC > OS: Linux > Status: NEW > Severity: normal > Priority: P3 > Component: Other > Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org > Reporter: lbickley at bickleywest.com > > ATT's sbcglobal.net PDP3 uses SSL certificates. Ever since it was > discovered that their email was vulnerable to attack because they > hadn't regularly updated their SSL certificate, they now do so > "super" regularly (multiple time a day apparently). Claws issues a > warning for each change: > ---------------------------------------------------- SLL certificate > changed > > Certificate for inbound att.net has changed > Do you want to accept it? > > Signature status: Correct > > > View Certificates > --------------------------------------------------- > Both old and new certificate signers are: > Name: VeriSign Class 3 Secure Server CA - G3 > Organization: VeriSign\. Inc. > Location: US > > This signature status of the new Certificate is: "Correct" > And expires on: 04/25/15 (Sat) 16:59 > > Claws waits for a response: > Cancel connection > or > Accept and save > > There should be an option to automatically "Accept and save" if the > status of a new certificate is "correct". It would be best if this > were done on an account by account basis (Most vendors change > certificates rarely). > > As is is now, I have to turn off processing of sbcglobal.net > (att.net) so that when I'm away from my desk, processing of all my > other accounts can proceed w/o delay. I then have to turn processing > of sbcglobal.net on and "Get Mail" to pick up my AT&T mail - and then > turn it off again. > I just wanted to chime and since I have an @att.net account and I too see this behavior. I have taken to removing this account from automatic mail checking. I hit 'Get Mail' for the other 5 accounts in Claws, but manually check for att.net. -- Regards, Tim Zakharov From bxstover at yahoo.co.uk Sat Jun 7 09:13:53 2014 From: bxstover at yahoo.co.uk (Ben Stover) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2014 09:13:53 +0200 Subject: [Users] Avoid necessarity to Rebbot on uninstall Message-ID: <581071.47065.bm@smtp116.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> When I uninstall ClawsMail the user is forced to reboot (at least on Win 7 port). This is rather uncomfortable and unusual for most of software packages today. Can this be avoided? Ben From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Jun 7 09:22:17 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2014 07:22:17 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3206] New: Make GUI language switchable through GUI menu/preferences option Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3206 Bug ID: 3206 Summary: Make GUI language switchable through GUI menu/preferences option Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: other Hardware: PC OS: Windows 7 Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: bxstover at yahoo.co.uk As far as I know the ClawsMail GUI language can only be switched by setting an environment variable LANG. This is not confortable. Many other software packages offer GUI language switching by a separate GUI menu or preferences option. Can this be introduced in ClawsMail as well? Ben -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Jun 7 10:28:14 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2014 08:28:14 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3206] Make GUI language switchable through GUI menu/preferences option In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3206 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE --- Comment #1 from Paul --- *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 3190 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Jun 7 10:28:14 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2014 08:28:14 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3190] Please add a GUI option to change the language used in the Claws Mail GUI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3190 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |bxstover at yahoo.co.uk --- Comment #5 from Paul --- *** Bug 3206 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From colin at colino.net Sat Jun 7 12:03:19 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 12:03:19 +0200 Subject: [Users] Avoid necessarity to Rebbot on uninstall In-Reply-To: <581071.47065.bm@smtp116.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <581071.47065.bm@smtp116.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140607120319.7466d3e4@mike> On 07 June 2014 at 09h13, Ben Stover wrote: Hi, > When I uninstall ClawsMail the user is forced to reboot (at least on Win 7 port). > > This is rather uncomfortable and unusual for most of software packages today. It's just to allow Windows to stop and delete the dirmngr service, https://www.gnupg.org/documentation/manuals/dirmngr/Introduction.html It's absolutely not a problem if you don't reboot; the service will just continue running until you do the reboot :) HTH, -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It seems that the way to upgrade is via a PPA. That means adding a repository and then installing the new version. Since this is an installation as opposed to an upgrade, does this mean that I will finish up with both versions installed? If so I will have to copy my configs file over too. I have used PPA's in the past, but only for completely new installations, that is not having an earlier version around. I don't want to mess up by current version. Thanks Neil From mir at miras.org Sun Jun 8 17:17:59 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 17:17:59 +0200 Subject: [Users] Version 3.10 In-Reply-To: <20140608155213.6725ca6e@Willow> References: <20140608155213.6725ca6e@Willow> Message-ID: <20140608171759.12265a32@sleipner.datanom.net> On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 15:52:13 +0100 Neil wrote: > > Since this is an installation as opposed to an upgrade, does this mean > that I will finish up with both versions installed? If so I will have > to copy my configs file over too. > If packaged correctly a PPA will replace the current installation of claws-mail. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: Debian Hint #24: If you would like to thank a maintainer for handling an issue, check out reportbug --kudos. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Well, to be precise will also do if packaged not correctly¹, as the relevant part to this is package version (and also repository pinning²), not the origin of the package. Anyway it also works the other way round: when official repository carries a higher version it will also replace your PPA version on upgrade :) Said that you should have no problem with Claws Mail PPA neiter on new installations nor on upgrades ;-) regards, ¹ Although depending on the level of incorrectness may even not to install! ² https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences -- Ricardo Mones ~ Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Carl Sagan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Is there a way I can verify Bogo is working properly? -- Regards, Tim Zakharov From himemsys36 at hotmail.com Mon Jun 9 04:06:42 2014 From: himemsys36 at hotmail.com (Tim Zakharov) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 21:06:42 -0500 Subject: [Users] How to verify Bobofilter is working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 20:26:20 -0500 Tim Zakharov wrote: > Okay, I don't get much spam. I average about 1 spam email every 2 > days. But since I've installed Bogofilter, I have received 9 > (obvious) spam emails, and Bogo has not flagged a single one. I made > sure to flag all my clean email as Ham, and I have been flagging each > of these spam messages as Spam, but I just received the 9th a few > minutes ago. Is it reasonable that due to the low volume of spam I > receive, it will take a long time for Bogo to start to learn what is > spam in my system? Zero for nine is a pretty poor start. Is there a > way I can verify Bogo is working properly? > I went ahead and turned X-Bogosity Header on hoping that future missed spam will give me some clue in their headers on if Bogo is at least considering spam as spam. -- Regards, Tim Zakharov From zaphod at berentweb.com Mon Jun 9 06:52:13 2014 From: zaphod at berentweb.com (Beeblebrox) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 07:52:13 +0300 Subject: [Users] Limit date range for IMAP sync Message-ID: > > When sync'ing IMAP accounts I'd like to be able to set the the "sync date > range", thereby limiting the synced mails to the last 30 days for example > (date range is left to user preference). By only syncing the last 30 days, > you prevent a massive download of past 5 years of data, which really is not > needed. > > P.S. I don't want to use a folder-structure scheme to accomplish this > (sync only one folder, then move at the end of 30 days etc..) > No answer to this question I had posted. 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I don't want to use a folder-structure scheme to accomplish > > this (sync only one folder, then move at the end of 30 days etc..) > > > > No answer to this question I had posted. > Does this mean no such feature exists in claws-mail? I'm new to Claws, but I found that if you right-click the individual folders and go to properties, you can specify how many days to sync. ZP From senex at drofle.co.uk Mon Jun 9 09:04:14 2014 From: senex at drofle.co.uk (Neil) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 08:04:14 +0100 Subject: [Users] Version 3.10 In-Reply-To: References: <20140608155213.6725ca6e@Willow> <20140608171759.12265a32@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140608162503.GC14849@trasgu> <20140608183948.47840ec1@mike> Message-ID: <20140609080414.668e2ac3@Willow> On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 14:04:32 -0500 Tim Zakharov wrote: > On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 18:39:48 +0200 > Colin Leroy wrote: > > > On 08 June 2014 at 18h25, Ricardo Mones wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > If packaged correctly a PPA will replace the current > > > > installation of claws-mail. > > > > > > Well, to be precise will also do if packaged not correctly¹, as > > > the relevant part to this is package version (and also repository > > > pinning²), not the origin of the package. > > > > I'd like to add that I base the PPA packages directly on Ricardo's > > official Debian packages, so they must be somewhat good. ;-) > > > > I'm using the PPA through Xubuntu 14.04 and I can't > complain. :) > Thanks for all the replies. I have used PPA's before but never as an upgrade, hence the question. I will install it and see what happens, Neil From kae at midnighthax.com Mon Jun 9 09:13:23 2014 From: kae at midnighthax.com (Keith Edmunds) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 08:13:23 +0100 Subject: [Users] Remote IMAP compose window not being closed Message-ID: <20140609081323.08ce659b@web2py.the.cage> Claws 3.10.0 I have two PCs (work, home) each configured with two IMAP accounts (work, home). When I compose a message on either from the "remote" account (eg, at home and using the work account), when I click on send: - the message is sent - the compose windows stays open with buttons greyed - the "Drafts" message is not removed On at least one occasion, I had an ever-increasing (and identical) number of draft messages. Recovery: 'kill -9 claws-mail'. Only started happening with 3.10. Happens on both PCs, but only with the remote mail account. Any suggestions? Thanks, Keith -- Blog: http://goo.gl/iOwv1w "You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you." From bxstover at yahoo.co.uk Mon Jun 9 09:54:00 2014 From: bxstover at yahoo.co.uk (Ben Stover) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:54:00 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to Import+Export eMail messages in MSG format? Message-ID: <486470.86945.bm@smtp121.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Assume I want to migrate an account from Outlook to Clawsmail. Therefore I need a function/menu to import an existing MSG email tree. In addition I want to have the option switch back later to Outlook. So I need an MSG export function/menu as well. How can I achieve this? Is there a plugin? Can import/export MSG menu be added to to Claws Mail? Thank you Ben From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 9 10:50:13 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 09:50:13 +0100 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.10.1 Unleashed!! Message-ID: <20140609095013.0d7db379@thewildbeast> 9th June 2014 Claws Mail 3.10.1 CLAWS MAIL RELEASE NOTES http://www.claws-mail.org Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast email client. New in this release: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * Add an account preference to allow automatically accepting unknown and changed SSL certificates, if they're valid (that is, if the root CA is trusted by the distro). * RFE 3196, 'When changing quicksearch Search Type, set focus to search input box' * PGP/Core plugin: Generate 2048 bit RSA keys. * Major code cleanup. * Extended claws-mail.desktop with Compose and Receive actions. * Updated Bulgarian, Brazilian Portuguese, Czech, Dutch, Esperanto, Finnish, French, German,Hebrew, Hungarian, Indonesian, Lithuanian, Slovak, Spanish, and Swedish translations. * Bug fixes: o bug 2728, 'erroneous switching from one to three column view' o bug 2981, 'claws-mail-3.9.3 compilation warnings' o bug 3170, 'QuickSearch fights with View/Hide read threads menu option' o bug 3179, 'Win32: Please add 'gtk-auto-mnemonics = 1' to GTK+ setting' o bug 3201, 'Fix memory corruption in sc_html_read_line()' o Debian bug 730050, 'vcalendar plugin crash' o Fix GCond use with newer Glib o Fix the race fix, now preventing the compose window to be closed. o Fix "File (null) doesn't exist" error dialog, when attaching a non-existing file via --attach o Fix spacing in Folderview if the font is far from the system font o RSSyl: When parsing RSS 2.0, ignore tags with a namespace prefix. o RSSyl: Check for existence of xmlNode namespace, to prevent NULL pointer crashes. 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From ricardo at mones.org Mon Jun 9 11:29:28 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 11:29:28 +0200 Subject: [Users] Clawsker 0.7.11 released Message-ID: <20140609092928.GH14849@trasgu> Hi, A new version of Clawsker, the hidden preferences editor for Claws Mail, has been released. A summary of changes shamelessly copied from NEWS file follows: - Support new hidden preferences added in Claws Mail 3.10.0: 'address_search_wildcard' and 'folder_search_wildcard' - Fix reading UTF-8 values from clawsrc file - Updated French, Swedish and Spanish translations - Updated manpage, perl code style and some other minor fixes Downloads are available at the usual location: http://www.claws-mail.org/clawsker.php Enjoy, -- Ricardo Mones ~ bash: ./signature: No such file or directory /bin/bash -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Mon Jun 9 12:37:59 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 11:37:59 +0100 Subject: [Users] Clawsker 0.7.11 released In-Reply-To: <20140609092928.GH14849@trasgu> References: <20140609092928.GH14849@trasgu> Message-ID: <20140609113759.00001792@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 11:29:28 +0200 Ricardo Mones wrote: > Hi, > > A new version of Clawsker, the hidden preferences editor for Claws > Mail, has been released. A summary of changes shamelessly copied from > NEWS file follows: > > - Support new hidden preferences added in Claws Mail 3.10.0: > 'address_search_wildcard' and 'folder_search_wildcard' > - Fix reading UTF-8 values from clawsrc file > - Updated French, Swedish and Spanish translations > - Updated manpage, perl code style and some other minor fixes > > Downloads are available at the usual location: > http://www.claws-mail.org/clawsker.php > > Enjoy, Thanks Ricardo Just one thing, I see that the ChangeLog file has been renamed, that broke the Fedora rpm build process. Was that an intentional change? Fedora is still using 0.7.2 officially. -- Brian Morrison From bugreporter at abwesend.de Mon Jun 9 13:10:17 2014 From: bugreporter at abwesend.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 13:10:17 +0200 Subject: [Users] Clawsker 0.7.11 released In-Reply-To: <20140609113759.00001792@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> References: <20140609092928.GH14849@trasgu> <20140609113759.00001792@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140609131017.7c77fbcb@noname> On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 11:37:59 +0100, Brian Morrison wrote: > > Downloads are available at the usual location: > > http://www.claws-mail.org/clawsker.php Released in 2014 not 2013. ;) > Just one thing, I see that the ChangeLog file has been renamed, that > broke the Fedora rpm build process. Was that an intentional change? > > Fedora is still using 0.7.2 officially. Which is odd enough to report it: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1106424 From ricardo at mones.org Mon Jun 9 14:19:00 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 14:19:00 +0200 Subject: [Users] Clawsker 0.7.11 released In-Reply-To: <20140609113759.00001792@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> References: <20140609092928.GH14849@trasgu> <20140609113759.00001792@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140609121900.GA5239@trasgu> Hi Brian, On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 11:37:59AM +0100, Brian Morrison wrote: > On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 11:29:28 +0200 > Ricardo Mones wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > A new version of Clawsker, the hidden preferences editor for Claws > > Mail, has been released. A summary of changes shamelessly copied from > > NEWS file follows: > > > > - Support new hidden preferences added in Claws Mail 3.10.0: > > 'address_search_wildcard' and 'folder_search_wildcard' > > - Fix reading UTF-8 values from clawsrc file > > - Updated French, Swedish and Spanish translations > > - Updated manpage, perl code style and some other minor fixes > > > > Downloads are available at the usual location: > > http://www.claws-mail.org/clawsker.php > > > > Enjoy, > > Thanks Ricardo > > Just one thing, I see that the ChangeLog file has been renamed, that > broke the Fedora rpm build process. Was that an intentional change? Yep, that happened more than one year ago, between 0.7.8 and 0.7.9: https://github.com/mones/clawsker/commit/98dfd7e0 > Fedora is still using 0.7.2 officially. Uh, that doesn't support any new hidden property since 2010... I guess there's not a lot of people using it :) -- Ricardo Mones ~ You have the capacity to learn from mistakes. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From colin at colino.net Mon Jun 9 15:20:00 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 15:20:00 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.10.1 Unleashed!! In-Reply-To: <20140609095013.0d7db379@thewildbeast> References: <20140609095013.0d7db379@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140609152000.2e9bf3c4@mike> On 09 June 2014 at 09h50, Paul wrote: Hi, > 9th June 2014 Claws Mail 3.10.1 > > CLAWS MAIL RELEASE NOTES > http://www.claws-mail.org > > Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast > email client. and Windows build is available at http://www.claws-mail.org/win32/ :) -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 190 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com Mon Jun 9 15:25:52 2014 From: kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com (Abhay S. Kushwaha) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 18:55:52 +0530 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.10.1 Unleashed!! In-Reply-To: <20140609152000.2e9bf3c4@mike> References: <20140609095013.0d7db379@thewildbeast> <20140609152000.2e9bf3c4@mike> Message-ID: <20140609185552.000023cd@netsolutionsindia.com> On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 15:20:00 +0200, Colin wrote: > > 9th June 2014 Claws Mail > > 3.10.1 > > > > CLAWS MAIL RELEASE NOTES > > http://www.claws-mail.org > > > > Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast > > email client. > > and Windows build is available at > http://www.claws-mail.org/win32/ :) Whoa! Nice! :) From ricardo at mones.org Mon Jun 9 15:51:12 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 15:51:12 +0200 Subject: [Users] Version 3.10 In-Reply-To: <20140608184205.773e3e73@anarchist.wooz.org> References: <20140608155213.6725ca6e@Willow> <20140608171759.12265a32@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140608162503.GC14849@trasgu> <20140608183948.47840ec1@mike> <20140608184205.773e3e73@anarchist.wooz.org> Message-ID: <20140609135112.GD5239@trasgu> On Sun, Jun 08, 2014 at 06:42:05PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Jun 08, 2014, at 06:39 PM, Colin Leroy wrote: > > >I'd like to add that I base the PPA packages directly on Ricardo's > >official Debian packages, so they must be somewhat good. ;-) > > Speaking of which, Ricardo, what's the status of getting 3.10 into unstable? > […] > Happy to help if needed, eager to start using the new version! Progressing slowly: there's a nice nightmare of ongoing library transtions in Debian, but hopefully at some point libetpan will get a slot to go in, then Claws Mail will enter, but only after a visit to the new queue... IOW, don't hold your breath ;) -- Ricardo Mones ~ RTFM - "Read The Manual" (The 'F' is silent). Usually a very good idea. Bjarne Stroustrup -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From colin at colino.net Mon Jun 9 16:17:51 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 16:17:51 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.10.1 Unleashed!! In-Reply-To: <20140609095013.0d7db379@thewildbeast> References: <20140609095013.0d7db379@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140609161751.796657e6@mike> On 09 June 2014 at 09h50, Paul wrote: Hi, > 9th June 2014 Claws Mail 3.10.1 > > CLAWS MAIL RELEASE NOTES > http://www.claws-mail.org > > Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast > email client. and Ubuntu PPA packages are built for Precise, Saucy and Trusty. Sorry for Quantal and Raring, these don't accept uploads anymore. -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 190 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Mon Jun 9 16:36:31 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 15:36:31 +0100 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.10.1 Unleashed!! In-Reply-To: <20140609152000.2e9bf3c4@mike> References: <20140609095013.0d7db379@thewildbeast> <20140609152000.2e9bf3c4@mike> Message-ID: <20140609153631.00004c4f@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 15:20:00 +0200 Colin Leroy wrote: > On 09 June 2014 at 09h50, Paul wrote: > > Hi, > > > 9th June 2014 Claws Mail > > 3.10.1 > > > > CLAWS MAIL RELEASE NOTES > > http://www.claws-mail.org > > > > Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast > > email client. > > and Windows build is available at http://www.claws-mail.org/win32/ :) > Thanks Colin, much appreciated. -- Brian Morrison From senex at drofle.co.uk Mon Jun 9 17:32:35 2014 From: senex at drofle.co.uk (Neil) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 16:32:35 +0100 Subject: [Users] Version 3.10 In-Reply-To: <20140609080414.668e2ac3@Willow> References: <20140608155213.6725ca6e@Willow> <20140608171759.12265a32@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140608162503.GC14849@trasgu> <20140608183948.47840ec1@mike> <20140609080414.668e2ac3@Willow> Message-ID: <20140609163235.21df8a17@Willow> On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 08:04:14 +0100 Neil wrote: > > > > I'm using the PPA through Xubuntu 14.04 and I can't > > complain. :) > > > > Thanks for all the replies. I have used PPA's before but never as an > upgrade, hence the question. I will install it and see what happens, > > Neil > I have now run the PPA and installed the new version, in fact right up to date with version 3.10.1. And it does indeed work like an upgrade. Thanks. I have learnt something today (nothing new there), that a PPA can work like an upgrade if an earlier version is already installed. Thanks for all the help, Neil From stanokopita at fastmail.fm Mon Jun 9 17:33:11 2014 From: stanokopita at fastmail.fm (Stan Dragnev) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 11:33:11 -0400 Subject: [Users] pass arguments to notification command? Message-ID: <1402327991.1797.126782565.04517BC1@webmail.messagingengine.com> One of the options of the notification plugin is to execute a custom command. Does anyone know if there is a way to pass any information about the new email as an argument? For example email subject or FROM address. I'm guessing no, but I thought I'd check. Thanks. Stan From chris at iccqs.com Mon Jun 9 18:35:58 2014 From: chris at iccqs.com (Chris Dunn) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 11:35:58 -0500 Subject: [Users] Synchronising Claws address books Message-ID: <20140609113558.77140506@krystle.dunnz.net> I would like to synchronise my Claws Mail address books across several machines, using SpiderOak and am running into some difficulty. If anyone can offer a solution to the problem I would be most appreciative. At present I've placed the address book in my "SpiderOak Hive" folder which automatically synchronises the files in that folder, including the address book, across all machines similarly set up. I have a symbolic link to this address book in my ~/.claws-mail/addrbook directory. At this point all works well. The problem arises when changes are made to the address book via Claws Mail. The changed file is not saved back to the "SpiderOak Hive" folder, but to the ~/.claws-mail/addrbook directory. So my changes to the book are not saved to the original file in the "SpiderOak Hive" folder. Instead a new address book containing the changes is created under ~/.claws-mail/addrbook. Here my attempts to synchronise the changes across other machines fails because the changes have not been made to the file that I am syncing. Since SpiderOak cannot follow symbolic links the option of putting in the "SpiderOak Hive" folder symbolic links to the true address book file under ~/.claws-mail/addrbook is not available. Guidance from anybody using similar syncing methods would be very welcome. -- Chris Dunn Integrated Construction Consultants 84, Saint Mary Country Club Charles Town Saint Mary Jamaica web-site : www.iccqs.com mobile : 1 876 354 0639 From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 9 18:46:39 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 16:46:39 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3207] New: Extended search is not recursive Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3207 Bug ID: 3207 Summary: Extended search is not recursive Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.9.2 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: major Priority: P3 Component: Other Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: bogdan at hlevca.com Searching through a tree of mail folders for with Extended search does not work. 1) In the left panel I selected the top folder. 2) Selected "Extended" and checked the Recursive option 3) typed "b mystring" in the search box 4) Results did not show in the mail list. However, after long manual searches I identified the location of the emails containing "mystring". 1) I selected the folder containing the emails 2) repeated steps 2 & 3 from above 3) The emails containing "mystring" were selected. Conclusion: Extended search does not honour the Recursive flag. IMHO it should, this is a major requirement to find emails. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 9 18:49:06 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 16:49:06 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3207] Extended search is not recursive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3207 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Paul --- It does work. Folders with matching messages have their folder icon changed to a magnifying-glass icon. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From mir at miras.org Mon Jun 9 19:02:28 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 19:02:28 +0200 Subject: [Users] Synchronising Claws address books In-Reply-To: <20140609113558.77140506@krystle.dunnz.net> References: <20140609113558.77140506@krystle.dunnz.net> Message-ID: <20140609190228.04dc4793@sleipner.datanom.net> On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 11:35:58 -0500 Chris Dunn wrote: > > At present I've placed the address book in my "SpiderOak Hive" folder > which automatically synchronises the files in that folder, including the > address book, across all machines similarly set up. I have a symbolic > link to this address book in my ~/.claws-mail/addrbook directory. > Try creating a symbolic link to the addrbook folder instead of to the addrbook file; Some operations on the addrbook file includes deleting the old file and creating a new file as a copy of the old file. Doing this will break your symbolic link but using a symbolic link to the folder in stead will preserve access to the addrbook file. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: Women sometimes forgive a man who forces the opportunity, but never a man who misses one. -- Charles De Talleyrand-Perigord -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 9 19:10:54 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 17:10:54 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3207] Extended search is not recursive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3207 Bogdan changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID |--- Severity|major |enhancement --- Comment #2 from Bogdan --- Yes, it does work as you mentioned it. However, could you make it more user friendly so that it is more obvious that id did something? The magnifying glass is easy to miss for someone who expects to see some results and not preliminary results. Could be: 1) a pop-up window, with the results, or with the directories. 2) highlight the selected directories along with putting the magnifying glass I reopened it as an enhancement. Please feel free to close it again, but I think that you should take in account suggestions from users. Suggestions are an indication that something can be made better. Thanks -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 9 19:13:21 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 17:13:21 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3207] Extended search is not recursive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3207 --- Comment #3 from Paul --- It's described in the manual: http://www.claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html#handling_searching -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 9 19:35:03 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 17:35:03 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3207] Extended search is not recursive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3207 --- Comment #4 from Bogdan --- I can see that now, but I think there is still room for improvement, if time permits. In my opinion the programs that do not require a manual for operating them are designed the best. I made those suggestions, but probably there are better solutions out there. Thanks. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From pf at pfortin.com Mon Jun 9 20:40:17 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 14:40:17 -0400 Subject: [Users] Need clue stick for crash on entering Inbox Message-ID: <20140609144017.2c1bcf2a@pfortin.com> Hi guys! Couple of days trying to track this down is driving me nuts... could use a clue stick, even if it comes in the form of a 2x4... :) Got a new laptop[1]. Compiled CM on it and copied over all files from the two instances I run. Long story short: I thought there was a problem with the copy until I restarted CM on my old machine... same crash when I click on Inbox... The really strange part: in one test, I clicked on all the other folders first (starting from the bottom), when I got to Inbox, there was no crash. Suspecting that some message came in and set things up to fail; but no idea what and when... --debug and gdb have not been very helpful so far. Copied 400+ msgs (dating back 6+ months) to a test account, and no crash. The details... ######### --debug Wait until CM finishes starting and click on Inbox gives: folderview.c:2030:newly selected 0x222c660, opened (nil) folderview.c:2076:Folder inbox is selected folderview.c:2092:Opening folder inbox... mh.c:235:MH scan not required: /home/pierre/Mail/inbox (1402330368 <= 1402330368) msgcache.c:275:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s001ms folder.c:2041:TIMING folder_item_open : 0s002ms summaryview.c:1045:showing From , must show From summaryview.c:1249:called inc_lock (lock count 1) summaryview.c:1347:Scanning folder (inbox)... msgcache.c:275:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms summaryview.c:1211:TIMING summary_check_consistency : 0s000ms summaryview.c:1453:TIMING summary_show removing hidden: 0s001ms summaryview.c:3114: Setting summary from message data... procmsg.c:311:TIMING procmsg_get_thread_tree : 0s006ms summaryview.c:3155:TIMING summary_set_ctree_from_list threaded: 0s060ms summaryview.c:3202:done. summaryview.c:3205: msgid hash table size = 4294 summaryview.c:2976:Sorting summary...Segmentation fault ######### gdb... Start CM, attach gdb and wait for gdb output to stop, then: (gdb) step Single stepping until exit from function poll, which has no line number information. 0x00007f40198e6434 in g_main_context_iterate.isra.24 () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 (gdb) Single stepping until exit from function g_main_context_iterate.isra.24, which has no line number information. 0x00007f40198e689a in g_main_loop_run () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 (gdb) Single stepping until exit from function g_main_loop_run, which has no line number information. ## here, waiting for activity... so I click on Inbox. ## The next gdb output is simply this: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x00007f4019914f34 in _g_utf8_normalize_wc () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 ## Use of 'stepi' can go on and on forever in various libs; but gives no help because I never reach the failure... ## At crash: (gdb) bt #0 0x00007f4019914f34 in _g_utf8_normalize_wc () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 #1 0x00007f4019914282 in g_utf8_collate () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 #2 0x00000000005baa7a in summary_cmp_by_from (clist=0x17cb610, ptr1=0x2a35500, ptr2=0x2972620) at summaryview.c:7452 #3 0x00000000006b4379 in sink (clist=0x17cb610, numbers=0x1bfbd40, root=355, bottom=4081) at gtksctree.c:1078 #4 0x00000000006b449b in heap_sort (clist=0x17cb610, numbers=0x1bfbd40, array_size=4081) at gtksctree.c:1103 #5 0x00000000006b465b in stree_sort (ctree=0x17cb610, node=0x0, data=0x0) at gtksctree.c:1145 #6 0x00000000006b49dd in gtk_sctree_sort_recursive (ctree=0x17cb610, node=0x0) at gtksctree.c:1208 #7 0x00000000005aaedd in summary_sort (summaryview=0x1a46730, sort_key=SORT_BY_FROM, sort_type=SORT_ASCENDING) at summaryview.c:2984 #8 0x00000000005abde7 in summary_set_ctree_from_list (summaryview=0x1a46730, mlist=0x15a3e10 = {...}) at summaryview.c:3212 #9 0x00000000005a62cd in summary_show (summaryview=0x1a46730, item=0x1bb7f80) at summaryview.c:1460 #10 0x00000000004aeded in folderview_selected (ctree=0x17cb420, row=0x1d05e60, column=-1, folderview=0x19df300) at folderview.c:2135 #11 0x00000000006d0460 in claws_marshal_VOID__POINTER_INT (closure=0x1a373d0, return_value=0x0, n_param_values=3, param_values=0x7fffdc4405a0, invocation_hint=0x7fffdc440540, marshal_data=0x0) at claws-marshal.c:348 #12 0x00007f4019bae188 in g_closure_invoke () from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #13 0x00007f4019bbfb1d in signal_emit_unlocked_R () from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #14 0x00007f4019bc7829 in g_signal_emit_valist () from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #15 0x00007f4019bc7ae2 in g_signal_emit () from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #16 0x000000000068a3b1 in gtk_cmctree_select (ctree=0x17cb420, node=0x1d05e60) at gtkcmctree.c:3903 #17 0x0000000000684452 in real_unselect_all (clist=0x17cb420) at gtkcmctree.c:2881 #18 0x00000000006b363e in gtk_sctree_real_unselect_all (clist=0x17cb420) at gtksctree.c:792 #19 0x00000000006a0e7b in gtk_cmclist_unselect_all (clist=0x17cb420) at gtkcmclist.c:3666 #20 0x00000000006b1f3d in select_row (sctree=0x17cb420, row=1, col=0, state=16, _node=0x0) at gtksctree.c:383 #21 0x00000000006b2a27 in gtk_sctree_button_press (widget=0x17cb420, event=0x187d9c0) at gtksctree.c:554 #22 0x00007f401d1374d5 in _gtk_marshal_BOOLEAN__BOXED () from /lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #23 0x00007f4019bae188 in g_closure_invoke () from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #24 0x00007f4019bbf8db in signal_emit_unlocked_R () from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #25 0x00007f4019bc74f9 in g_signal_emit_valist () from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #26 0x00007f4019bc7ae2 in g_signal_emit () from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #27 0x00007f401d2473f4 in gtk_widget_event_internal () from /lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #28 0x00007f401d135c84 in gtk_propagate_event () from /lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #29 0x00007f401d13603b in gtk_main_do_event () from /lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #30 0x00007f401cdb19bc in gdk_event_dispatch () from /lib64/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 #31 0x00007f40198e6146 in g_main_context_dispatch () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 #32 0x00007f40198e6498 in g_main_context_iterate.isra.24 () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 #33 0x00007f40198e689a in g_main_loop_run () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 #34 0x00007f401d135127 in gtk_main () from /lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #35 0x00000000004d0816 in main (argc=1, argv=0x7fffdc4442c8) at main.c:1559 (gdb) /var/log/messages: Jun 9 13:43:15 hg kernel: traps: claws-mail[28267] general protection ip:7fcf70361f34 sp:7fffcef44e90 error:0 in libglib-2.0.so.0.3800.2[7fcf702eb000+fe000] I can provide bt full output if that will help... However, 'str1' looks interesting here: #2 0x00000000005baa7a in summary_cmp_by_from (clist=0x17cb610, ptr1=0x2a35500, ptr2=0x2972620) at summaryview.c:7452 str1 = 0x75f8e0ba85d1a794
str2 = 0x29765d0 "support at placester.com" r1 = 0x2a35500 r2 = 0x2972620 msginfo1 = 0x1e2a650 msginfo2 = 0x1e005d0 sv = 0x1a46730 res = 32767 summaryview.c:7452 res = g_utf8_collate(str1, str2); main.c:1559 gtk_main(); I have several messages from this sender; but I'm not sure which one might be triggering this crash... strangely, copying entire Mail (9.3G) to new machine gives same crash; but copying last 6 months messages into my test CM doesn't... In case it matters, CM dumps this at startup: ** (claws-mail:1731): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GtkCMUnit' as enum when in fact it is of type 'gint' Thanks, Pierre [1] i7 does NOT mean an 8 thread CPU! The only way to be sure is check the CPU specs. Returning Dell Inspiron 17R 5737 i7 which has only 4 threads. :P From pf at pfortin.com Tue Jun 10 00:51:51 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 18:51:51 -0400 Subject: [Users] Need clue stick for crash on entering Inbox In-Reply-To: <20140609144017.2c1bcf2a@pfortin.com> References: <20140609144017.2c1bcf2a@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20140609185151.26e8045c@pfortin.com> On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 14:40:17 -0400 I wrote: >Hi guys! > >Couple of days trying to track this down is driving me nuts... could use >a clue stick, even if it comes in the form of a 2x4... :) Interesting... it appears that if the .claws_cache gets corrupted, that fact may not be noticed until CM restarts [successfully]... Renamed it to .claws_cache.BAD and restarted; now CM is OK again... $ ll .claws_cache* -rw------- 1 pierre pierre 1312416 Jun 9 18:24 .claws_cache -rw------- 1 pierre pierre 1238409 Jun 9 12:12 .claws_cache.BAD Difference of 74,007 bytes. Ouch!! Just noticed the date/time... This file's flaw remained even though CM was collecting mail. Otherwise, it should have an older date from a few days ago. Too bad CM doesn't have "Processing {.claws_cache,...}" semaphores that would force a rebuild if the file's semaphore is still set on a restart, as it would be if CM crashed before clearing it... :) Been a rough 48 hours... HTH someone... Pierre From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 10 01:28:57 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 23:28:57 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3179] Win32: Please add 'gtk-auto-mnemonics = 1' to GTK+ settings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3179 nw9165-3201 changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Version|3.10.0 |3.10.1 Resolution|FIXED |--- --- Comment #4 from nw9165-3201 --- Hello, today I installed Claws Mail 3.10.1 Win32, which, according to the changelog, should have implemented this feature request. However, it looks like it does not. Claws Mail 3.10.1 Win32 still shows underlined keyboard shortcuts in menu bars, regardless of the Alt key being pressed or not (the "F" in "File" is underlined for example, even if the Alt key is not being pressed). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 10 13:39:47 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 11:39:47 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3208] New: Win32: Fancy plugin is crashing Claws Mail Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3208 Bug ID: 3208 Summary: Win32: Fancy plugin is crashing Claws Mail Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail (Windows) Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: All OS: All Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: default Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com Hello, today I tried using the Fancy plugin for the first time in Claws Mail. I was using Claws Mail 3.10.1 Win32 on Microsoft Windows 8.1 x64 and used the following settings: Menu bar -> Configuration -> Preferences -> Message View -> HTML Messages [ ] Render HTML messages as text [X] Render HTML-only messages with plugin if poosible [X] Select the HTML part of multipart/alternative messages Menu bar -> Configuration -> Preferences -> Plugins -> Fancy All Fancy settings have been left at their default settings. Well: Trying to view an HTML mail makes Claws Mail completeley unresponsible and crashes it. I also tried it with Claws Mail 3.10.1 PPA on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS "Trusty Tahr". On Ubuntu it was working fine, on Windows it crashed. Please fit ix. It would be much appreciated. Regards -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 10 15:01:47 2014 From: nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com (N. W) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 14:01:47 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Users] [Bug 3197] Please make Claws Mail use the GTK+ / GNOME theme icons instead of using its own icons Message-ID: <1402405307.32131.YahooMailBasic@web171803.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Hello, > Paul wrote: > > [...] the stock GTK+ icons do not cover what we need and use in Claws > Mail. [...] If that would be true, then how can it be, that the Claws Mail icon theme page: http://www.claws-mail.org/themes.php?section=downloads offers a GNOME icon theme: http://www.claws-mail.org/themes_show_all_icons.php?t=themes/png/Gnome/&j=1&n=Gnome which even offers more icons than the Claws Mail default internal icon theme (169 icons vs. 162 icons)? To me, that very much looks like as if the GNOME / GTK+ icon set has more than enough icons for Claws Mail... Could you please elaborate why you are claiming the opposite? Regards From colin at colino.net Tue Jun 10 15:11:07 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 15:11:07 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3197] Please make Claws Mail use the GTK+ / GNOME theme icons instead of using its own icons In-Reply-To: <1402405307.32131.YahooMailBasic@web171803.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1402405307.32131.YahooMailBasic@web171803.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140610151107.06ed2c66@colin.i-run.lau> On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 14:01:47 +0100 (BST), "N. W" wrote: > > [...] the stock GTK+ icons do not cover what we need and use in > > Claws Mail. [...] > > If that would be true, then how can it be, that the Claws Mail icon > theme page: > > http://www.claws-mail.org/themes.php?section=downloads > > offers a GNOME icon theme: Probably because Elisabeth Getzner, the author of this theme, authored them one by one ? I believe Paul here does not claim anything: he is right, because he's been involved in the project since it started in 2001. He knows better than you do, trust me. -- Colin From nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 10 15:38:16 2014 From: nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com (N. W) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 14:38:16 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Users] [Bug 3194] New: Some dialogs/windows do not pop up in the center of the window / in the center of the screen Message-ID: <1402407496.51995.YahooMailBasic@web171803.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Hello, > Brad Rogers wrote: > > So, to me, window placement as it stands looks like a design decision. Well, the "Input password" dialog window for example pops up at random places in the Win32 version. I just checked it again with the Win32 version. Example: When opening Claws Mail, the "Input password" dialog window pops up at position X. When closing and then re-opening Claws Mail, the "Input password" dialog window suddely pops up at position XY. When then closing and then re-opening Claws Mail again, the "Input password" dialog window suddely pops up at position XYZ. And so on... It always pops up at a different position... I highy doubt that this is a design decision... It would be much appreciated if it could be fixed, as it is quite annoying. Not sure, but maybe the GTK+ 2 version in the Win32 version of Claws Mail has to be updated to 2.24.23 to fix this issue: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3175 Claws Mail 3.10.1 Win32 is still utilizing an almost five year old version of GTK+ 2. Regards From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 10 17:11:36 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 16:11:36 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3194] New: Some dialogs/windows do not pop up in the center of the window / in the center of the screen In-Reply-To: <1402407496.51995.YahooMailBasic@web171803.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1402407496.51995.YahooMailBasic@web171803.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140610161136.40f90528@thewildbeast> On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 14:38:16 +0100 (BST) "N. W" wrote: > Claws Mail 3.10.1 Win32 is still utilizing an almost five year old > version of GTK+ 2. What sort of problems have you encountered because of this? with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From jerry at seibercom.net Tue Jun 10 17:49:05 2014 From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 11:49:05 -0400 Subject: [Users] Printing Email Headers Message-ID: <20140610114905.1bb951b2@scorpio> I am working for a municipality. All of the email here is handled by MS Outlook 2013. I wanted to use Claws-Mail instead. One of the problems is the printing of email. I am required to print out several received emails per day. Using MS Outlook, I can print out the "From", "Sent", "To" and "Subject" lines at the top of the page and then the actual message. I cannot figure out how to do that in claws-mail. It will only apparently print out the message contents. Is there a way to configure it to work in a manner similar to MS Outlook 2013 which is what I am gong to have to duplicate if I am going to be allowed to use it. Thanks! -- Jerry From pf at pfortin.com Tue Jun 10 18:02:20 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:02:20 -0400 Subject: [Users] Printing Email Headers In-Reply-To: <20140610114905.1bb951b2@scorpio> References: <20140610114905.1bb951b2@scorpio> Message-ID: <20140610120220.1543d1ed@pfortin.com> On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 11:49:05 -0400 Jerry wrote: >I am working for a municipality. All of the email here is handled by MS >Outlook 2013. I wanted to use Claws-Mail instead. One of the problems is >the printing of email. I am required to print out several received >emails per day. Using MS Outlook, I can print out the "From", "Sent", >"To" and "Subject" lines at the top of the page and then the actual >message. I cannot figure out how to do that in claws-mail. It will only >apparently print out the message contents. Is there a way to configure >it to work in a manner similar to MS Outlook 2013 which is what I am >gong to have to duplicate if I am going to be allowed to use it. > >Thanks! > Configuration->Preferences->MessageView->TextOptions [X] Display headers in message view From dan_arico at aricosystems.com Tue Jun 10 18:34:17 2014 From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:34:17 -0400 Subject: [Users] Printing Email Headers In-Reply-To: <20140610114905.1bb951b2@scorpio> References: <20140610114905.1bb951b2@scorpio> Message-ID: <20140610123417.0e25c050.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 11:49:05 -0400 Jerry wrote: > I am working for a municipality. All of the email here is handled by > MS Outlook 2013. I wanted to use Claws-Mail instead. One of the > problems is the printing of email. I am required to print out several > received emails per day. Using MS Outlook, I can print out the > "From", "Sent", "To" and "Subject" lines at the top of the page and > then the actual message. I cannot figure out how to do that in > claws-mail. It will only apparently print out the message contents. > Is there a way to configure it to work in a manner similar to MS > Outlook 2013 which is what I am gong to have to duplicate if I am > going to be allowed to use it. > > Thanks! > Use the mouse to highlight what you want to print. Dan Arico -- One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them, One OS to bring them all, and in the Darkness bind them, In the land of Redmond, where the Sales Reps lie. From nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 10 19:37:24 2014 From: nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com (N. W) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 18:37:24 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Users] [Bug 3194] New: Some dialogs/windows do not pop up in the center of the window / in the center of the screen Message-ID: <1402421844.39389.YahooMailBasic@web171806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Hello, > Paul wrote: > > What sort of problems have you encountered because of this? Well, the question should rather be: What kind of enhancements have I not received because of this? If I may quote one of the GNOME / GTK+ blog posts: > http://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2011/11/25/gtk-work-on-windows/ > > [...] So, the newly released Gtk+ 2.24.8 is now officially the best > ever Gtk+ 2.x release on windows. [...] ;) So, Claws Mail sticking with GTK+ 2.16.6 on Win32 makes no sense to me. And even GTK+ 2.24.8 is several years old now. We're now at GTK+ 2.24.23. Sylpheed 3.5.0beta1 Win32, which will probably be released next week, also has been updated to GTK+ 2.24.23, and that alone has fixed several issues / brought several enhancements, see: http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/redmine/projects/sylpheed/repository/revisions/3401/entry/NEWS http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/redmine/issues/13 http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/redmine/issues/124 So, IMHO, Claws Mail Win32 should definitely be updated to GTK+ 2.24.23 as well ASAP. Regards From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 10 20:48:45 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 19:48:45 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3194] New: Some dialogs/windows do not pop up in the center of the window / in the center of the screen In-Reply-To: <1402421844.39389.YahooMailBasic@web171806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1402421844.39389.YahooMailBasic@web171806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140610194845.04542669@thewildbeast> On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 18:37:24 +0100 (BST) "N. W" wrote: > Well, the question should rather be: What kind of enhancements have > I not received because of this? OK, so what kind of enhancements have you not received because of this? > Sylpheed 3.5.0beta1 Win32, which will probably be released next > week, also has been updated to GTK+ 2.24.23, and t Why do you mention this? Sylpheed is irrelevant here. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From sylpheed at 911networks.com Tue Jun 10 21:02:17 2014 From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:02:17 -0700 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3194] New: Some dialogs/windows do not pop up in the center of the window / in the center of the screen In-Reply-To: <1402421844.39389.YahooMailBasic@web171806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1402421844.39389.YahooMailBasic@web171806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140610120217.54840863@frogguski.911networks.com> On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 18:37:24 +0100 (BST) "N. W" wrote: >So, IMHO, Claws Mail Win32 should definitely be updated to GTK+ >2.24.23 as well ASAP. To me, it looks like you are trying to replace and transform CM into Outlook or Thunderbird. I'm a CM user for the last 8 years. I use CM because it works. It's not sexy but it works (actually it's rock solid and I'm touching wood as I say this). Thanks guys for the great job! I just deleted over 200,000 emails that I do not need anymore. I still have 120,000+ emails and CM was and is still instantaneous. I can search and find things immediately. If you are looking for an excellent and great looking MUA in Windows, I will suggest "The Bat!" it may be more to your liking. -- Thanks When the network has to work From nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 10 22:10:18 2014 From: nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com (N. W) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 21:10:18 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Users] [Bug 3194] New: Some dialogs/windows do not pop up in the center of the window / in the center of the screen Message-ID: <1402431018.68771.YahooMailBasic@web171806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Hello, > sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote: > > To me, it looks like you are trying to replace and transform CM into > Outlook or Thunderbird. Ah, okay..., because I am suggesting to upgrade the widget toolkit, which Claws Mail is built upon, to the latest version, I am trying to replace and transform Claws Mail into Outlook or Thunderbird, yeah..., right, that totally makes sense... [/IRONY] If I would want to use something that is more similar to Thunderbird or Outlook, I'd probably do just that: use Thunderbird and/or Outlook. However, I currently do not want to use them (for good reasons). > sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote: > > If you are looking for an excellent and great looking MUA in Windows, > I will suggest "The Bat!" it may be more to your liking. Thanks, but: no. "The Bat!" is not open-source and not cross-platform, at least as far as I know. > Paul wrote: > > OK, so what kind of enhancements have you not received because of this? Well, to be honest, I don't know (yet). But I assume that the GNOME / GTK+ developers have a reason when they say that, starting with GTK+ 2.24.8, GTK+ 2.24.X is "officially the best ever Gtk+ 2.x release on windows". And, as already mentioned, Sylpheed profits from it as well. By the way: Even though you constantly seem to want to downplay my request, you still haven't provided one single argument against upgrading GTK+ 2 to the latest version in Claws Mail Win32. Just saying... > Paul wrote: > > Why do you mention this? Sylpheed is irrelevant here. Well, I had a feeling you would say that... However, at least to me, Sylpheed is very similar to Claws Mail. And, considering that Claws Mail is a fork of Sylpheed and considering that Sylpheed is also an application that utilizes GTK+ 2 on Win32, I don't think it's too far fetched to compare them in this case. Regards From nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 10 22:17:13 2014 From: nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com (N. W) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 21:17:13 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Users] Why did you do a fork of Sylpheed? Message-ID: <1402431433.70283.YahooMailBasic@web171801.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Hello, in a followup to the request on the Sylpheed Redmine: http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/redmine/issues/205 I would like to ask the following question on the Claws Mail mailing list: Why did you (Claws Mail developers) do a fork of Sylpheed? Why aren't you working together with the Sylpheed developers on Sylpheed? This is not meant as a troll-post or whatever. I'd really like to know. Regards From albert.aribaud at free.fr Tue Jun 10 23:30:53 2014 From: albert.aribaud at free.fr (Albert ARIBAUD) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 23:30:53 +0200 Subject: [Users] Why did you do a fork of Sylpheed? In-Reply-To: <1402431433.70283.YahooMailBasic@web171801.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1402431433.70283.YahooMailBasic@web171801.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140610233053.29383204@lilith> Bonjour N., Le Tue, 10 Jun 2014 21:17:13 +0100 (BST), "N. W" a écrit : > Hello, > > in a followup to the request on the Sylpheed Redmine: > > http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/redmine/issues/205 > > I would like to ask the following question on the Claws Mail mailing > list: > > Why did you (Claws Mail developers) do a fork of Sylpheed? Why aren't > you working together with the Sylpheed developers on Sylpheed? > > This is not meant as a troll-post or whatever. I'd really like to know. This is not meant as a troll response, but the question you are asking is in the Claws Mail FAQ, along with its answer. http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/General_Information#What_are_the_differences_between_Claws_Mail_and_Sylpheed.3F > Regards Amicalement, -- Albert. From nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 11 00:25:04 2014 From: nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com (N. W) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 23:25:04 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Users] Why did you do a fork of Sylpheed? In-Reply-To: <20140610233053.29383204@lilith> Message-ID: <1402439104.96127.YahooMailBasic@web171801.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Hello, well, no, not really, the FAQ is very vague. But, okay, then let me rephrase my question(s): > http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/General_Information#What_are_the_differences_between_Claws_Mail_and_Sylpheed.3F > > [...] Claws Mail then evolved into the stable, extended version of > Sylpheed, and in 2006 became an entity in its own right, in part due > to different goals and the fact that syncing both codebases stopped > happening. [...] What goals does Claws Mail have that Sylpheed does not have? And why did the syncing stopped happening? Regards From mir at miras.org Wed Jun 11 01:02:29 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 01:02:29 +0200 Subject: [Users] Why did you do a fork of Sylpheed? In-Reply-To: <1402439104.96127.YahooMailBasic@web171801.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <20140610233053.29383204@lilith> <1402439104.96127.YahooMailBasic@web171801.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140611010229.048469a8@sleipner.datanom.net> On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 23:25:04 +0100 (BST) "N. W" wrote: > > What goals does Claws Mail have that Sylpheed does not have? And why > did the syncing stopped happening? > IMHO Paul is the only one able to answer that question since he have been here since the very beginning. Even though I have been a claws user since the time it was called sylpheed-claws and was based on GTK1 (if I recall correct the first version of sylpheed-claws I used had version 0.3.x) I had nothing to do with development by that time and as such I cannot give any noteworthy input. Maybe this old announcement from Colin's wordpress can give you some ideas ;-) http://www.colino.net/wordpress/page/3/?s=sylpheed -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: Prediction is very difficult, especially of the future. -- Niels Bohr -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From colin at colino.net Wed Jun 11 07:52:48 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 07:52:48 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3194] New: Some dialogs/windows do not pop up in the center of the window / in the center of the screen In-Reply-To: <1402431018.68771.YahooMailBasic@web171806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1402431018.68771.YahooMailBasic@web171806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140611075248.050f6325@mike> On 10 June 2014 at 21h10, N. W wrote: Hi, > Even though you constantly seem to want to downplay my request, you > still haven't provided one single argument against upgrading GTK+ 2 to > the latest version in Claws Mail Win32. I have only one argument: it is painful as hell and takes a lot of work. I have a patch lying around that starts doing it, and I stopped after I had to add 4 new dependancies to the build and I still didn't see the finish line. -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 190 bytes Desc: not available URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jun 11 08:21:11 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 07:21:11 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3194] New: Some dialogs/windows do not pop up in the center of the window / in the center of the screen In-Reply-To: <1402431018.68771.YahooMailBasic@web171806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1402431018.68771.YahooMailBasic@web171806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140611072111.5b4adfb0@thewildbeast> On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 21:10:18 +0100 (BST) "N. W" wrote: > Well, to be honest, I don't know (yet). But I assume that the > GNOME / GTK+ developers have a reason when they say that, starting > with GTK+ 2.24.8, GTK+ 2.24.X is "officially the best ever Gtk+ 2.x > release on windows". Well, they would say that, it's hype. It's almost a truism - no development team (I suspect) would ever release a new version which is worse than the previous version. > Even though you constantly seem to want to downplay my request, you > still haven't provided one single argumen Colin has already answered this but I would say that it's (almost) impossible that the existence of a newer GTK+ would be unknown before you pointed it out. Therefore, pointing it out serves little purpose. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jun 11 08:41:52 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 07:41:52 +0100 Subject: [Users] Why did you do a fork of Sylpheed? In-Reply-To: <1402431433.70283.YahooMailBasic@web171801.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1402431433.70283.YahooMailBasic@web171801.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140611074152.7cac1997@thewildbeast> On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 21:17:13 +0100 (BST) "N. W" wrote: > in a followup to the request on the Sylpheed Redmine: > > http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/redmine/issues/205 Merging won't happen - well, anything is possible in theory, but I can't see it happening. For one thing they have different, incompatible licenses. Claws is GPLv3, Sylpheed is GPLv2 plus LGPLv2, therefore no Claws code can be used in Sylpheed any longer. As far as I can tell, Sylpheed would not switch to GPLv3 because that would be incompatible with the proprietary version of Sylpheed, "Sylpheed Pro", http://www.sraoss.co.jp/sylpheed-pro/ BTW, Claws can play a sound on receiving mail, see the 'Run command' frame on the 'Receiving' page of the prefs. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jun 11 08:52:51 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 07:52:51 +0100 Subject: [Users] Why did you do a fork of Sylpheed? In-Reply-To: <1402439104.96127.YahooMailBasic@web171801.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <20140610233053.29383204@lilith> <1402439104.96127.YahooMailBasic@web171801.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140611075251.24330b74@thewildbeast> On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 23:25:04 +0100 (BST) "N. W" wrote: > What goals does Claws Mail have that Sylpheed does not have? For a start, there is no proprietary version of Claws Mail. > And why did the syncing stopped happening? I'll be brief. We worked closely at first. Claws' new features would be added to Sylpheed when they were tested and stable. A lot of the good features in Sylpheed first happened in Claws. Then there came a time that new features - good features, that people wanted - were not being transferred to Sylpheed. Over a period of months I tried to find out why this was - up to this point communication with Hiroyuki had been frequent - but the only response was silence. By this time Claws had worked up a momentum of its own, so we thought, OK, let's continue with this and no longer be concerned with Sylpheed - i.e. we forked. I believe that that is a good summary. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From colin at colino.net Wed Jun 11 09:15:47 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 09:15:47 +0200 Subject: [Users] Why did you do a fork of Sylpheed? In-Reply-To: <20140611010229.048469a8@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20140610233053.29383204@lilith> <1402439104.96127.YahooMailBasic@web171801.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140611010229.048469a8@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20140611091547.4597c74d@colin.i-run.lau> On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 01:02:29 +0200, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > Maybe this old announcement from Colin's wordpress can give you some > ideas ;-) > http://www.colino.net/wordpress/page/3/?s=sylpheed The "Scratches and changes" post? No, that was a different thing, with more drama and slammed doors :) -- Colin From nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 11 16:08:40 2014 From: nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com (N. W) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 15:08:40 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Users] [Bug 3194] New: Some dialogs/windows do not pop up in the center of the window / in the center of the screen In-Reply-To: <20140611075248.050f6325@mike> Message-ID: <1402495720.73823.YahooMailBasic@web171803.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Hello, knowing that Sylpheed is "irrelevant" here..., please still let me say this: > Colin Leroy wrote: > > I have only one argument: it is painful as hell and takes a lot of > work. I have a patch lying around that starts doing it, and I stopped > after I hae to add 4 new dependancies to the build and I still didn't > see the finish line. Well, the Sylpheed developers managed to upgrade the Win32 version from an even older GTK+ 2.10.14 to GTK+ 2.24.23, so I thought it wouldn't be as difficult as you just described it. Maybe it would help you to read this: http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/redmine/issues/124 They are describing what they are doing there. Here: http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/redmine/projects/sylpheed/repository/revisions/3401/entry/NEWS you can also see which versions of which libraries have been used (see 3.5.0beta1). Hiroyuki said that he will probably release 3.5.0beta1 within the next week: http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/redmine/issues/13#note-18 So, as you can see, it is possible, which is why I asked ;P. > Paul wrote: > > [...] I would say that it's (almost) impossible that the existence of > a newer GTK+ would be unknown before you pointed it out. Therefore, > pointing it out serves little purpose. [...] Well, when I asked Hiroyuki Yamamoto to upgrade the GTK+ 2 version in Sylpheed Win32: http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/redmine/issues/124 he told me he would like to do so, but couldn't, because of a bug in later GTK+ 2 versions, which decreases performance with CJK characters. However, at the time he was saying that, the bug has had been fixed already for a long time, he just didn't know it. He later found out though, partly due to me asking for an upgrade once in a while. So, maybe if I wouldn't have asked to update to GTK+ 2.24.X, maybe he would still think that this bug has not been fixed yet ;P. So, I don't think it can hurt to ask once in a while ;P. Regards From colin at colino.net Wed Jun 11 16:19:53 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:19:53 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3194] New: Some dialogs/windows do not pop up in the center of the window / in the center of the screen In-Reply-To: <1402495720.73823.YahooMailBasic@web171803.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <20140611075248.050f6325@mike> <1402495720.73823.YahooMailBasic@web171803.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140611161953.453a60ba@colin.i-run.lau> Hi, > Well, the Sylpheed developers managed to upgrade the Win32 version > from an even older GTK+ 2.10.14 to GTK+ 2.24.23, so I thought it > wouldn't be as difficult as you just described it. > > Maybe it would help you to read this: > > http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/redmine/issues/124 > > They are describing what they are doing there. And what you read in this report's comments didn't make you think it was difficult? :) I'll get to updating GTK+ in the win32 build, but I am far from having gathered enough motivation and energy to face a dozen of builds failing after dozens of minutes of compilation, then face a dozn of buggy builds with only windows tools to debug them. -- Colin From freebsd at grem.de Wed Jun 11 16:47:21 2014 From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:47:21 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.9.3 unleashed!! In-Reply-To: <20131214105500.7545d9f7@thewildbeast> References: <20131214105500.7545d9f7@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140611164721.43d8ff0f@bsd64.grem.de> On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 10:55:00 +0000 Paul wrote: > New in this release: > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > * The TAB address completion in the Compose window now matches any > part of the address and not just the beginning. I just updated to 3.10 (long overdue) and got this new feature, is there any chance to disable it by configuration? -- Michael Gmelin From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jun 11 16:58:33 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 14:58:33 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2665] Indicator in messaging menu doesn't work. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2665 --- Comment #3 from Barry Warsaw --- Any status on this? We're still carrying this as a delta in Ubuntu against the Debian package. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jun 11 17:12:51 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 15:12:51 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2665] Indicator in messaging menu doesn't work. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2665 --- Comment #4 from Colin Leroy --- Mmmh, sorry, we somehow missed that. Thanks Sebastien for the patch! Were there any other libindicate users than old Unity? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jun 11 17:14:55 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 15:14:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2753] Please add information indicators to a Launcher icon in Unity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2753 Colin Leroy changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE --- Comment #2 from Colin Leroy --- I believe it's a dupe of this bug... *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 2665 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jun 11 17:14:55 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 15:14:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2665] Indicator in messaging menu doesn't work. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2665 Colin Leroy changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |freedomrun at unity-linux.org --- Comment #5 from Colin Leroy --- *** Bug 2753 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jun 11 17:16:55 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 15:16:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3178] Ubuntu Unity launcher integration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3178 Colin Leroy changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Resolution|WONTFIX |DUPLICATE --- Comment #3 from Colin Leroy --- Isn't that a duplicate of this bug?... *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 2665 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jun 11 17:16:55 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 15:16:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2665] Indicator in messaging menu doesn't work. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2665 Colin Leroy changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com --- Comment #6 from Colin Leroy --- *** Bug 3178 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From colin at colino.net Wed Jun 11 17:19:09 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 17:19:09 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.9.3 unleashed!! In-Reply-To: <20140611164721.43d8ff0f@bsd64.grem.de> References: <20131214105500.7545d9f7@thewildbeast> <20140611164721.43d8ff0f@bsd64.grem.de> Message-ID: <20140611171909.34523946@colin.i-run.lau> On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:47:21 +0200, Michael Gmelin wrote: > > New in this release: > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > * The TAB address completion in the Compose window now matches any > > part of the address and not just the beginning. > > I just updated to 3.10 (long overdue) and got this new feature, is > there any chance to disable it by configuration? address_search_wildcard=0 is what you want, a hidden preference that is available starting from 3.10.1. -- Colin From freebsd at grem.de Wed Jun 11 17:26:40 2014 From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 17:26:40 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.9.3 unleashed!! In-Reply-To: <20140611171909.34523946@colin.i-run.lau> References: <20131214105500.7545d9f7@thewildbeast> <20140611164721.43d8ff0f@bsd64.grem.de> <20140611171909.34523946@colin.i-run.lau> Message-ID: <20140611172640.67e3ad8e@bsd64.grem.de> On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 17:19:09 +0200 Colin Leroy wrote: > On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:47:21 +0200, Michael Gmelin > wrote: > > > > New in this release: > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > * The TAB address completion in the Compose window now matches any > > > part of the address and not just the beginning. > > > > I just updated to 3.10 (long overdue) and got this new feature, is > > there any chance to disable it by configuration? > > address_search_wildcard=0 is what you want, a hidden preference that > is available starting from 3.10.1. > Cool, thank you. -- Michael Gmelin From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jun 11 17:29:25 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 15:29:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2665] Indicator in messaging menu doesn't work. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2665 --- Comment #7 from Ricardo Mones --- >From a quick glimpse of the patch and a quick search on packages.debian.org, seems there's no 'unity' library in debian unstable. So, if this is added upstream "as is" I would have to counter-patch upstream in the Debian package to remove it (or loss libindicate feature, but doesn't look like a good option when a simple patch can restore it... :) If you do the Ubuntu packages from the Debian ones, you would have to undo that counter-patch, so still carrying a delta, so not sure what is all worth for. As currently, it's an Ubuntu specific patch. To be more neutral and therefore more suitable for upstream the patch should be reworked to detect Ubuntu libs and conditionally compile that Ubuntu part and stay with libindicate if not available. Said that I'm an interested part, so feel free to disagree :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jun 11 17:49:30 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 15:49:30 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2665] Indicator in messaging menu doesn't work. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2665 --- Comment #8 from Colin Leroy --- Yeah, that was the goal of my question - I didn't know whether libindicate was already Ubuntu-specific. So yes, that patch could go in the tree if it is done as a separate sub-feature of the Notification plugin. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From ricardo at mones.org Wed Jun 11 17:56:01 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 17:56:01 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.9.3 unleashed!! In-Reply-To: <20140611172640.67e3ad8e@bsd64.grem.de> References: <20131214105500.7545d9f7@thewildbeast> <20140611164721.43d8ff0f@bsd64.grem.de> <20140611171909.34523946@colin.i-run.lau> <20140611172640.67e3ad8e@bsd64.grem.de> Message-ID: <20140611155601.GL5239@trasgu> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 05:26:40PM +0200, Michael Gmelin wrote: > > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 17:19:09 +0200 > Colin Leroy wrote: > > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:47:21 +0200, Michael Gmelin > > wrote: > > > > > > New in this release: > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > * The TAB address completion in the Compose window now matches any > > > > part of the address and not just the beginning. > > > > > > I just updated to 3.10 (long overdue) and got this new feature, is > > > there any chance to disable it by configuration? > > > > address_search_wildcard=0 is what you want, a hidden preference that > > is available starting from 3.10.1. > > > > Cool, thank you. And which you can edit with latest version of Clawsker, btw :) -- Ricardo Mones ~ RTFM - "Read The Manual" (The 'F' is silent). Usually a very good idea. Bjarne Stroustrup -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 11 18:30:22 2014 From: nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com (N. W) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 17:30:22 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Users] [Bug 3178] Ubuntu Unity launcher integration In-Reply-To: <20140611155601.GL5239@trasgu> Message-ID: <1402504222.91812.YahooMailBasic@web171801.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Hello, > Colin Leroy wrote: > > Isn't that a duplicate of this bug?... > > *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 2665 *** it seems like bug 2753 and bug 3178 are in fact duplicates of each other. But I am not quite sure that bug 2753 and bug 3178 are duplicates of bug 2665. Anyway: > Andrej Kacian wrote: > > Ubuntu people are more than welcome to add this to their Claws Mail > package. We are not interested. Maybe the Ubuntu Unity launcher integration could be made as a plugin ;)? Oh, and by the way: Sylpheed has a patch for this, see: http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/redmine/issues/126 ;p This fork thing is really sad... :( Regards From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Wed Jun 11 19:12:48 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 18:12:48 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3178] Ubuntu Unity launcher integration In-Reply-To: <1402504222.91812.YahooMailBasic@web171801.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <20140611155601.GL5239@trasgu> <1402504222.91812.YahooMailBasic@web171801.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140611181248.00003624@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 17:30:22 +0100 (BST) N. W wrote: > This fork thing is really sad... :( Not if you look at the features in Claws now vs Sylpheed, with rare exceptions Claws Mail wins hands down for nearly everyone. I started using Sylpheed, then moved to Sylpheed Claws and finally on to CM. I've never looked back. -- Brian Morrison From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jun 11 22:39:03 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 20:39:03 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2665] Indicator in messaging menu doesn't work. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2665 --- Comment #9 from Holger Berndt --- Also, thanks for the information that you have that in Ubuntu packages already. I have been trying to get this to run on my machine some time ago, but failed to set up the environment correctly. That other parties tested this, and it worked for them, is valueable information. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jun 11 22:51:05 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 20:51:05 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3209] New: autoconfig does not use full email address as username Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3209 Bug ID: 3209 Summary: autoconfig does not use full email address as username Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: cweiske at cweiske.de For auto configuration, RFC 6186 states in section 4: > When a user identifier is required, MUAs MUST first > use the full email address provided by the user, and if that results > in an authentication failure, SHOULD fall back to using the "local- > part" extracted from the email address. Claws Mail's autoconfiguration only uses the local part before the @ and does not use the full email address first. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From edwardp at collector.org Thu Jun 12 02:42:22 2014 From: edwardp at collector.org (edwardp at collector.org) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 20:42:22 -0400 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.10.1 for Debian Message-ID: <20140611204222.6ca71450@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> As one of the bugs fixed in 3.10.1 is a Debian-specific bug (730050), should users who use Debian (myself included), see an updated Claws Mail package made available at some point? Thanks in advance. From barry at python.org Thu Jun 12 03:16:16 2014 From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 21:16:16 -0400 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.10.1 for Debian References: <20140611204222.6ca71450@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20140611211616.706b61b7@anarchist.wooz.org> On Jun 11, 2014, at 08:42 PM, edwardp at collector.org wrote: >As one of the bugs fixed in 3.10.1 is a Debian-specific bug (730050), >should users who use Debian (myself included), see an updated Claws Mail >package made available at some point? Debian sid has 3.10.1 now. I merged that into Ubuntu so Utopic users should also get the new version now too. Cheers, -Barry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From colin at colino.net Thu Jun 12 09:28:03 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 09:28:03 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3178] Ubuntu Unity launcher integration In-Reply-To: <1402504222.91812.YahooMailBasic@web171801.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <20140611155601.GL5239@trasgu> <1402504222.91812.YahooMailBasic@web171801.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140612092803.7ed58a47@colin.i-run.lau> On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 17:30:22 +0100 (BST), "N. W" wrote: > Oh, and by the way: > > Sylpheed has a patch for this, see: There's one in bug #2665 too, that's the thing. PS: how do you manage to reply to the bug #2665 thread in the Claws Mail 3.9.3 unleashed thread? Can you try not to break threads by using Reply wherever you are, but rather use Reply where you want to reply? (And please avoid starting new threads by replying, too). -- Colin From itz at buug.org Thu Jun 12 08:49:56 2014 From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 23:49:56 -0700 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3178] Ubuntu Unity launcher integration In-Reply-To: <1402504222.91812.YahooMailBasic@web171801.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <20140611155601.GL5239@trasgu> <1402504222.91812.YahooMailBasic@web171801.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140611234956.6f537cee.itz@buug.org> On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 17:30:22 +0100 (BST) "N. W" wrote: [in a thread about an autocompletion config knob] > it seems like bug 2753 and bug 3178 are in fact duplicates of each > other. > But I am not quite sure that bug 2753 and bug 3178 are duplicates of > bug 2665. Please do not use Reply to start what is in fact a new thread. Copy & Paste the list address once if you must, then save it in your address book to avoid typing it again. I am really surprised that I have to tell this to you, a quite experienced user of email tools, judging by your other posts. Friendly, Ian. -- Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 09:39:27 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 07:39:27 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3209] autoconfig does not use full email address as username In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3209 --- Comment #2 from Colin Leroy --- Using the local part as username predates autoconfig implementation, in fact. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From i.gnatenko.brain at gmail.com Thu Jun 12 11:41:48 2014 From: i.gnatenko.brain at gmail.com (Igor Gnatenko) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 13:41:48 +0400 Subject: [Users] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail Message-ID: <1402566108.7088.1.camel@X1Carbon.localdomain> Hi, Recently Richard Hughes added the addon component type to AppStream[1] which is an XML standard that is used by distributors such as Fedora, Suse and soon to be Arch and Debian to create metadata for various software center applications. By creating a metainfo.xml for each plugin, these are then shown next to the main "claws-mail" application and allow the user to easily install extra components. This is obviously important for claws-mail, as without the extra packages (which don't show up in the software center) the standalone claws-mail isn't super useful. Richard written a blog post[2] about what upstream software needs to do to integrate with the KDE and GNOME software centers, and Richard really appreciate any feedback and help at this stage. The way AppStream works is that it has to be build upstream by the distro, so we'd need to have the files either upstream (or downstream in the distro packages) by GNOME 3.14 which is quite a few months away. If you want to contact with Richard, either email or grab on IRC -- He's hughsie on freenode and gimpnet. I already sent patch to evolution-rss plugin[3]. Take a look it. Let us know if you will or will not add this support for you plugin! If you added metainfo.xml - let us know commit. This can help to other developers. [1]http://www.freedesktop.org/software/appstream/docs/ [2]http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2014/06/11/application-addons-in-gnome-software/ [3]https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=731553 -- -Igor Gnatenko -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 12:15:17 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 10:15:17 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] New: [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Bug ID: 3210 Summary: [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: other Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: Plugins Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: i.gnatenko.brain at gmail.com CC: i.gnatenko.brain at gmail.com Hi, Recently Richard Hughes added the addon component type to AppStream[1] which is an XML standard that is used by distributors such as Fedora, Suse and soon to be Arch and Debian to create metadata for various software center applications. By creating a metainfo.xml for each plugin, these are then shown next to the main "claws-mail" application and allow the user to easily install extra components. Richard written a blog post[2] about what upstream software needs to do to integrate with the KDE and GNOME software centers, and Richard really appreciate any feedback and help at this stage. The way AppStream works is that it has to be build upstream by the distro, so we'd need to have the files either upstream (or downstream in the distro packages) by GNOME 3.14 which is quite a few months away. If you want to contact with Richard, either email or grab on IRC -- He's hughsie on freenode and gimpnet. I already sent patch to evolution-rss plugin[3]. Take a look it. Let us know if you will or will not add this support for you plugin! If you added metainfo.xml - let us know commit. This can help to other developers. [1]http://www.freedesktop.org/software/appstream/docs/ [2]http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2014/06/11/application-addons-in-gnome-software/ [3]https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=731553 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Thu Jun 12 16:58:18 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:58:18 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3178] Ubuntu Unity launcher integration In-Reply-To: <20140612092803.7ed58a47@colin.i-run.lau> References: <20140611155601.GL5239@trasgu> <1402504222.91812.YahooMailBasic@web171801.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140612092803.7ed58a47@colin.i-run.lau> Message-ID: <20140612155818.00002e6f@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 09:28:03 +0200 Colin Leroy wrote: > Can you try not to break threads by using Reply wherever you are, but > rather use Reply where you want to reply? > > (And please avoid starting new threads by replying, too). There is also the very useful Tools->Remove References command to prevent this very problem where you wanted an address from an email and nothing else. -- Brian Morrison From pf at pfortin.com Thu Jun 12 18:25:31 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 12:25:31 -0400 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3178] Ubuntu Unity launcher integration In-Reply-To: <20140612155818.00002e6f@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> References: <20140611155601.GL5239@trasgu> <1402504222.91812.YahooMailBasic@web171801.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140612092803.7ed58a47@colin.i-run.lau> <20140612155818.00002e6f@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140612122531.0446730a@pfortin.com> On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:58:18 +0100 Brian Morrison wrote: >On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 09:28:03 +0200 >Colin Leroy wrote: > >> Can you try not to break threads by using Reply wherever you are, but >> rather use Reply where you want to reply? >> >> (And please avoid starting new threads by replying, too). > >There is also the very useful Tools->Remove References command to >prevent this very problem where you wanted an address from an email and >nothing else. > Even easier if one puts the list address in Folder properties; then just compose a new message... assuming the new-in-thread person filters into a folder... No excuse since there are many ways to avoid the issue. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:49:17 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:49:17 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #1 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1376 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1376&action=edit [PATCH 01/28] metainfo: add acpi_notifier plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:49:34 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:49:34 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #2 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1377 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1377&action=edit [PATCH 02/28] metainfo: add address_keeper plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:49:46 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:49:46 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #3 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1378 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1378&action=edit [PATCH 03/28] metainfo: add archive plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:50:04 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:50:04 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #4 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1379 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1379&action=edit [PATCH 04/28] metainfo: add attachwarner plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:50:18 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:50:18 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #5 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1380 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1380&action=edit [PATCH 05/28] metainfo: add att_remover plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:50:33 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:50:33 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #6 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1381 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1381&action=edit [PATCH 06/28] metainfo: add bogofilter plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:50:47 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:50:47 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #7 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1382 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1382&action=edit [PATCH 07/28] metainfo: add bsfilter plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:51:01 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:51:01 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #8 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1383 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1383&action=edit [PATCH 08/28] metainfo: add clamd plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:51:16 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:51:16 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #9 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1384 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1384&action=edit [PATCH 09/28] metainfo: add fancy plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:51:33 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:51:33 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #10 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1385 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1385&action=edit [PATCH 10/28] metainfo: add fetchinfo plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:51:48 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:51:48 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #11 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1386 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1386&action=edit [PATCH 11/28] metainfo: add gdata plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:52:07 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:52:07 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #12 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1387 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1387&action=edit [PATCH 12/28] metainfo: add geolocation plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:52:24 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:52:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #13 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1388 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1388&action=edit [PATCH 13/28] metainfo: add libravatar plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:52:47 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:52:47 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #14 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1389 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1389&action=edit [PATCH 14/28] metainfo: add mailmbox plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:53:10 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:53:10 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #15 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1390 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1390&action=edit [PATCH 15/28] metainfo: add newmail plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:53:24 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:53:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #16 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1391 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1391&action=edit [PATCH 16/28] metainfo: add notification plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:53:41 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:53:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #17 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1392 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1392&action=edit [PATCH 17/28] metainfo: add pdf_viewer plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:53:56 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:53:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #18 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1393 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1393&action=edit [PATCH 18/28] metainfo: add perl plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:54:11 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:54:11 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #19 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1394 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1394&action=edit [PATCH 19/28] metainfo: add pgpinline plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:54:26 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:54:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #20 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1395 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1395&action=edit [PATCH 20/28] metainfo: add pgpmime plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:54:40 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:54:40 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #21 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1396 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1396&action=edit [PATCH 21/28] metainfo: add python plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:54:54 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:54:54 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #22 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1397 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1397&action=edit [PATCH 22/28] metainfo: add rssyl plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:55:11 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:55:11 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #23 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1398 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1398&action=edit [PATCH 23/28] metainfo: add smime plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:55:26 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:55:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #24 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1399 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1399&action=edit [PATCH 24/28] metainfo: add spamassasin plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From colin at colino.net Thu Jun 12 18:55:35 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 18:55:35 +0200 Subject: [Users] spam mail lead into 100% cpu In-Reply-To: <20131216214039.3a962346@example.com> References: <20131216214039.3a962346@example.com> Message-ID: <20140612185535.30dce3b9@mike> On 16 December 2013 at 21h40, Frank Dietrich wrote: Hi, > Question to the CM hackers: Would it make sense to forward this spam > email to someone for investigation why CM is blocked with it? > I have installed the GtkHtml2 viewer plugin version 0.33. Not really - this is a known issue of the Gtkhml plugin, which has been deprecated and replaced by Fancy (based on webkit)! You should upgrade if you can. -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: not available URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:55:45 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:55:45 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #25 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1400 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1400&action=edit [PATCH 25/28] metainfo: add spam_report plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:56:04 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:56:04 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #26 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1401 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1401&action=edit [PATCH 26/28] metainfo: add tnef_parse plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:56:19 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:56:19 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #27 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1402 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1402&action=edit [PATCH 27/28] metainfo: add vcalendar plugin -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:56:33 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:56:33 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #28 from Igor Gnatenko --- Created attachment 1403 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1403&action=edit [PATCH 28/28] appstream: add tools for checking -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 18:57:11 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:57:11 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #29 from Igor Gnatenko --- or you can use: git pull https://github.com/ignatenkobrain/claws.git appstream -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 19:15:51 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 18:15:51 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140612181551.0c57157c@thewildbeast> OMG! From nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 12 19:55:17 2014 From: nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com (N. W) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 18:55:17 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Users] [Bug 3178] Ubuntu Unity launcher integration In-Reply-To: <20140611234956.6f537cee.itz@buug.org> Message-ID: <1402595717.17598.YahooMailBasic@web171802.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Hello, > Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > Please do not use Reply to start what is in fact a new thread.  > Copy & Paste the list address once if you > must, then save it in your address > book to > avoid typing it again. > > I am really surprised that I have to tell this to you, a quite > experienced user of email tools, judging by > your other posts. I did not want to create a new thread. I wanted to make a reply on the same thread. Well, actually, I am not very experienced with mailing lists, at least not yet :p. I do not like mailing lists. An explanation is available over there: http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/redmine/issues/173#note-2 ;) So, it would be nice if there would be an offical Claws Mail forum available. That would be much better IMHO. Anyway: > Colin Leroy wrote: > > PS: how do you manage to reply to the bug #2665 thread in the Claws > Mail 3.9.3 unleashed thread? > > Can you try not to break threads by using Reply wherever you are, but > rather use Reply where you want to reply? > > (And please avoid starting new threads by replying, too). Well, I always thought that when you want to reply to a mailing list thread, all you need to do is using the same subject and then send the email to the mailing list (users at lists.claws-mail.org in this case)... Looks like this might be a wrong assumption ;o? But how does the mailing list/the client/whatever know that I am replying to a specific thread, if not from the subject? What's being used there? Is it the "Message-ID"? Or what is it? Also: Let's say someone is not subscribed to a mailing list yet and is browsing the mailing list archive: http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2014-June/thread.html#start Now he decides to subscribe to the mailing list because he wants to reply to a specific thread. How should he do this? I mean, he never got an email from this thread before. So how can he reply to it? Or is there no way he can do it and he simply has to create a new thread? PS: I have now replied directly to the email from Ian Zimmerman (currently using a webmail interface instead of Claws Mail though). Is it working now? Regards From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 20:13:03 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 18:13:03 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #30 from Michael Schwendt --- The patches are incomplete, because normally you would need to add such data files to EXTRA_DIST in order to let "make dist" include them in the source tarball. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Thu Jun 12 20:15:12 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:15:12 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3178] Ubuntu Unity launcher integration In-Reply-To: <1402595717.17598.YahooMailBasic@web171802.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <20140611234956.6f537cee.itz@buug.org> <1402595717.17598.YahooMailBasic@web171802.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140612191512.000017f0@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 18:55:17 +0100 (BST) N. W wrote: > So, it would be nice if there would be an offical Claws Mail forum > available. All becomes clear... -- Brian Morrison From andrej at kacian.sk Thu Jun 12 20:45:38 2014 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 20:45:38 +0200 Subject: [Users] Mailing list vs. forum (Was Re: [Bug 3178] Ubuntu Unity launcher integration) In-Reply-To: <1402595717.17598.YahooMailBasic@web171802.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <20140611234956.6f537cee.itz@buug.org> <1402595717.17598.YahooMailBasic@web171802.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140612204538.07b057be@penny> On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 18:55:17 +0100 (BST) "N. W" wrote: > I do not like mailing lists. An explanation is available over there: > > http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/redmine/issues/173#note-2 I happen to disagree with every opinion expressed in that post, so there - it is merely one opinion against another. Mailing list is something that has worked for many FOSS projects for decades, and has worked rather well. Forums are just bastardized version of mailing lists, enabling and even encouraging bad netiquette. But feel free to start your own Claws Mail forum. Who knows, maybe it will attract many, many users, and I will be left standing here as a fool. :) -- Andrej Kacian From colin at colino.net Thu Jun 12 21:28:26 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 21:28:26 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3178] Ubuntu Unity launcher integration In-Reply-To: <1402595717.17598.YahooMailBasic@web171802.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <20140611234956.6f537cee.itz@buug.org> <1402595717.17598.YahooMailBasic@web171802.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140612212826.71fcccaa@mike> On 12 June 2014 at 18h55, N. W wrote: Hi, > So, it would be nice if there would be an offical Claws Mail forum available. Forums suck. -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: not available URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:29:59 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:29:59 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 --- Comment #31 from Igor Gnatenko --- (In reply to comment #30) > The patches are incomplete, because normally you would need to add such data > files to EXTRA_DIST in order to let "make dist" include them in the source > tarball. fixed. thanks. git pull https://github.com/ignatenkobrain/claws.git appstream I can't update patches here. Diffs: https://github.com/ignatenkobrain/claws/compare/master...appstreamv2 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:30:23 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:30:23 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1376|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:30:28 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:30:28 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1377|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:30:32 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:30:32 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1378|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:30:41 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:30:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1379|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:30:45 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:30:45 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1380|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:30:50 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:30:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1381|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:31:05 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:31:05 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1382|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:31:13 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:31:13 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1383|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:31:18 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:31:18 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1385|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:31:17 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:31:17 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1384|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:31:27 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:31:27 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1388|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:31:24 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:31:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1386|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:31:30 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:31:30 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1389|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:31:36 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:31:36 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1390|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:31:38 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:31:38 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1392|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:31:37 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:31:37 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1391|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:31:59 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:31:59 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1393|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:32:02 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:32:02 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1394|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:32:06 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:32:06 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1395|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:32:08 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:32:08 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1396|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:32:12 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:32:12 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1397|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:32:14 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:32:14 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1398|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:32:23 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:32:23 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1401|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:32:19 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:32:19 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1400|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:32:16 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:32:16 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1399|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:32:24 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:32:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1402|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:32:28 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:32:28 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Igor Gnatenko changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1403|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Thu Jun 12 22:30:47 2014 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:30:47 -0400 Subject: [Users] Mailing list vs. forum (Was Re: [Bug 3178] Ubuntu Unity launcher integration) In-Reply-To: <20140612204538.07b057be@penny> References: <20140611234956.6f537cee.itz@buug.org> <1402595717.17598.YahooMailBasic@web171802.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140612204538.07b057be@penny> Message-ID: <20140612163047.13e9048c@ron.cerrocora.org> On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 20:45:38 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > But feel free to start your own Claws Mail forum. Who knows, maybe it will > attract many, many users, and I will be left standing here as a fool. :) Or more likely, you will be left with the serious users... Cheers, Ron. -- Als sie die Kommunisten holten, habe ich geschwiegen, denn ich war kein Kommunist. Als sie die Sozialdemokraten holten, habe ich geschwiegen, denn ich war kein Sozialdemokrat. Als sie die Juden holten, habe ich geschwiegen, denn ich sass bereits im Konzentrazionslager. Und als sie meine Freunde und mich geholt hatten, war niemand mehr da, der häte protestieren wollen und können. -- Martin Niemöller -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 12 22:36:29 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 20:36:29 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3210] [RFE] metainfo for claws-mail-plugins that extends claws-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3210 Colin Leroy changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #32 from Colin Leroy --- Merged in master, thanks! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From edwardp at collector.org Thu Jun 12 23:32:58 2014 From: edwardp at collector.org (edwardp at collector.org) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 17:32:58 -0400 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.10.1 for Debian In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140612173258.1f3524c5@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> I am using Wheezy, which came with 3.8.1, when the distro was released. On Jun 11, 2014, at 08:42 PM, edwardp at collector.org wrote: >As one of the bugs fixed in 3.10.1 is a Debian-specific bug (730050), >should users who use Debian (myself included), see an updated Claws Mail >package made available at some point? Debian sid has 3.10.1 now. I merged that into Ubuntu so Utopic users should also get the new version now too. Cheers, -Barry From pf at pfortin.com Fri Jun 13 01:39:02 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:39:02 -0400 Subject: [Users] Mailing list vs. forum (Was Re: [Bug 3178] Ubuntu Unity launcher integration) In-Reply-To: <20140612163047.13e9048c@ron.cerrocora.org> References: <20140611234956.6f537cee.itz@buug.org> <1402595717.17598.YahooMailBasic@web171802.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140612204538.07b057be@penny> <20140612163047.13e9048c@ron.cerrocora.org> Message-ID: <20140612193902.5f8d15e6@pfortin.com> On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:30:47 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: >> But feel free to start your own Claws Mail forum. Who knows, maybe it >> will attract many, many users, and I will be left standing here as a >> fool. :) > >Or more likely, you will be left with the serious users... +1 :+) From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Jun 13 09:43:33 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 07:43:33 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3211] New: Fails to build in Debian hurd-i386 architecture Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3211 Bug ID: 3211 Summary: Fails to build in Debian hurd-i386 architecture Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/Archiver Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: mones at users.sourceforge.net Error is: > libarchive_archive.c:313:22: error: 'PATH_MAX' undeclared (first use in this function) Ideas for fixing: https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd/porting/guidelines.html Although the usual fix is just #define it to some value at the appropriate level when not present. This is used also in mailmbox plugin, archiver is just the one that fails first :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Jun 13 09:47:31 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 07:47:31 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3211] Fails to build in Debian hurd-i386 architecture In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3211 --- Comment #1 from Colin Leroy --- Yeah, I'd guess just adding #ifndef PATH_MAX #define PATH_MAX 4196 #endif in utils.h should be enough :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Fri Jun 13 11:43:49 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 10:43:49 +0100 Subject: [Users] Mailing list vs. forum (Was Re: [Bug 3178] Ubuntu Unity launcher integration) In-Reply-To: <20140612193902.5f8d15e6@pfortin.com> References: <20140611234956.6f537cee.itz@buug.org> <1402595717.17598.YahooMailBasic@web171802.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140612204538.07b057be@penny> <20140612163047.13e9048c@ron.cerrocora.org> <20140612193902.5f8d15e6@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20140613104349.0000763c@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:39:02 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:30:47 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > > >> But feel free to start your own Claws Mail forum. Who knows, maybe > >> it will attract many, many users, and I will be left standing here > >> as a fool. :) > > > >Or more likely, you will be left with the serious users... > > +1 :+) Quite. Some of us have been here for a considerable time... -- Brian Morrison From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Fri Jun 13 12:00:04 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 11:00:04 +0100 Subject: [Users] Latest git missing file Message-ID: <20140613110004.000042ec@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Hi Colin Seems that po/Makefile.in.in has disappeared from the git repo, so I can't build a vanilla version. I temporarily copied a file in from my rpm build directory, but presumably it needs to be re-committed in the repo. -- Brian Morrison From colin at colino.net Fri Jun 13 12:15:15 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 12:15:15 +0200 Subject: [Users] Latest git missing file In-Reply-To: <20140613110004.000042ec@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> References: <20140613110004.000042ec@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140613121515.264ec36c@colin.i-run.lau> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 11:00:04 +0100, Brian Morrison wrote: Hi, > Seems that po/Makefile.in.in has disappeared from the git repo, so I > can't build a vanilla version. You need to re-run autogen.sh, it's now generated :) -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Off to find out what is missing... -- Brian Morrison From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Fri Jun 13 16:06:56 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 15:06:56 +0100 Subject: [Users] Latest git missing file In-Reply-To: <20140613123951.00004afb@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> References: <20140613110004.000042ec@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20140613121515.264ec36c@colin.i-run.lau> <20140613123951.00004afb@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140613150656.00006222@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 12:39:51 +0100 Brian Morrison wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 12:15:15 +0200 > Colin Leroy wrote: > > > On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 11:00:04 +0100, Brian Morrison > > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > Seems that po/Makefile.in.in has disappeared from the git repo, > > > so I can't build a vanilla version. > > > > You need to re-run autogen.sh, it's now generated :) > > Oh right, but I already do run it for git updates. > > Off to find out what is missing... > Seems that nothing was missing. Now the file needed is linked to /usr/share/intltool/Makefile.in.in which is part of the intltool package. -- Brian Morrison From freebsd at grem.de Fri Jun 13 16:09:48 2014 From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 16:09:48 +0200 Subject: [Users] Compose window not closing Message-ID: <20140613160948.0ac19d43@bsd64.grem.de> This is on 3.10, has anyone seen this before? (happened to me twice so far). Is it possible that this has already been fixed in 3.10.1, release notes say "Fix the race fix, now preventing the compose window to be closed.", I didn't have a chance to update yet and this description is a bit brief. Symptom: I'm done writing an email and sent it. Email was delivered over SMTP, a copy is stored in my remote IMAP Sent folder. Window won't close. I can send the message again and again by hitting Send, but the window won't go away (every single delivery is stored in my Send folder). File->Close won't close it. When I exit claws, it keeps storing the message in the Drafts folder (so this action also won't close the window). So after getting like 30 copies in the drafts folder I have to kill claws using SIGKILL, otherwise it would probably go on forever. On next start all those draft emails pop up, but then will close/delete like expected. Thanks, -- Michael Gmelin From colin at colino.net Fri Jun 13 16:15:40 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 16:15:40 +0200 Subject: [Users] Compose window not closing In-Reply-To: <20140613160948.0ac19d43@bsd64.grem.de> References: <20140613160948.0ac19d43@bsd64.grem.de> Message-ID: <20140613161540.6b7f31d9@colin.i-run.lau> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 16:09:48 +0200, Michael Gmelin wrote: Hi, > This is on 3.10, has anyone seen this before? (happened to me twice so > far). > > Is it possible that this has already been fixed in 3.10.1, release > notes say "Fix the race fix, now preventing the compose window to be > closed.", I didn't have a chance to update yet and this description is > a bit brief. Yes, this is this one. -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Fri Jun 13 17:43:56 2014 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 11:43:56 -0400 Subject: [Users] How do I make a preference stick ? Message-ID: <20140613114356.062347df@ron.cerrocora.org> Each time I (re)start CM I have to go to Configuration => Preferences and check (again) the box "Don't open popup dialogue on receive error" Is there a way to make the preference stick ? Cheers, Ron. -- Democracy is a device that insures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. -- George Bernard Shaw -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From ciamarie at centurylink.net Fri Jun 13 18:03:35 2014 From: ciamarie at centurylink.net (Cia Watson) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 09:03:35 -0700 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.10.1 for Debian In-Reply-To: <20140612173258.1f3524c5@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <20140612173258.1f3524c5@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20140613090335.199806b0@centurylink.net> On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 17:32:58 -0400 wrote: > I am using Wheezy, which came with 3.8.1, when the distro was released. > > On Jun 11, 2014, at 08:42 PM, edwardp at collector.org wrote: > > >As one of the bugs fixed in 3.10.1 is a Debian-specific bug (730050), > >should users who use Debian (myself included), see an updated Claws Mail > >package made available at some point? > > Debian sid has 3.10.1 now. I merged that into Ubuntu so Utopic users should > also get the new version now too. > The Wheezy backports repo has v3.9.3, see exact output from apt-cache policy below, for installed and candidate info. Once the newer version (3.10.1) goes from Sid to testing / Jessie, I imagine it'll be in backports pretty soon after that. Two weeks perhaps? claws-mail: Installed: 3.9.3-1~bpo70+1 Candidate: 3.9.3-1~bpo70+1 Version table: *** 3.9.3-1~bpo70+1 0 100 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 3.8.1-2 0 500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages I would suspect an upgrade from the backports repo now would be a good choice, since I'm not sure how well an upgrade from 3.8 to 3.10 in one step would work. It might work fine.... Cia W. From ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk Fri Jun 13 18:04:13 2014 From: ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk (Kevin Chadwick) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 17:04:13 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bulk] Re: Claws Mail 3.10.1 for Debian In-Reply-To: <20140613090335.199806b0@centurylink.net> References: <20140612173258.1f3524c5@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140613090335.199806b0@centurylink.net> Message-ID: <201485.62367.bm@smtp124.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> previously on this list Cia Watson contributed: > > >As one of the bugs fixed in 3.10.1 is a Debian-specific bug (730050), > > >should users who use Debian (myself included), see an updated Claws Mail > > >package made available at some point? > > > > Debian sid has 3.10.1 now. I merged that into Ubuntu so Utopic users should > > also get the new version now too. > > > > The Wheezy backports repo has v3.9.3, see exact output from apt-cache > policy below, for installed and candidate info. Once the newer version > (3.10.1) goes from Sid to testing / Jessie, I imagine it'll be in backports > pretty soon after that. Two weeks perhaps? If the patch is important enough debian will and may have already? patched the stable older claws version. Stable is the one that gets the most patch/security attention in fact. -- _______________________________________________________________________ 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface' (Doug McIlroy) In Other Words - Don't design like polkit or systemd _______________________________________________________________________ From mailinglists at gusnan.se Fri Jun 13 18:10:40 2014 From: mailinglists at gusnan.se (Andreas =?UTF-8?B?UsO2bm5xdWlzdA==?=) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 18:10:40 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.10.1 for Debian In-Reply-To: <20140613090335.199806b0@centurylink.net> References: <20140612173258.1f3524c5@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140613090335.199806b0@centurylink.net> Message-ID: <20140613181040.55f22af2@debian-workstation.lan> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 09:03:35 -0700, Cia Watson wrote: >On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 17:32:58 -0400 > wrote: > >> I am using Wheezy, which came with 3.8.1, when the distro was >> released. >> >> On Jun 11, 2014, at 08:42 PM, edwardp at collector.org wrote: >> >> >As one of the bugs fixed in 3.10.1 is a Debian-specific bug >> >(730050), should users who use Debian (myself included), see an >> >updated Claws Mail package made available at some point? >> >> Debian sid has 3.10.1 now. I merged that into Ubuntu so Utopic >> users should also get the new version now too. >> > >The Wheezy backports repo has v3.9.3, see exact output from apt-cache >policy below, for installed and candidate info. Once the newer version >(3.10.1) goes from Sid to testing / Jessie, I imagine it'll be in >backports pretty soon after that. Two weeks perhaps? > (I am the guy who have done the wheezy backports) - but now I am not sure what needs to be done with libraries that claws depends on - I believe claws now requires a version of libetpan that isn't available in stable (or backports) yet. I haven't looked at it indepth yet, it might be more complicated than the previous versions has been to backport. -- Andreas Rönnquist mailinglists at gusnan.se gusnan at gusnan.se From mir at miras.org Fri Jun 13 18:33:18 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 18:33:18 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.10.1 for Debian In-Reply-To: <20140613181040.55f22af2@debian-workstation.lan> References: <20140612173258.1f3524c5@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140613090335.199806b0@centurylink.net> <20140613181040.55f22af2@debian-workstation.lan> Message-ID: <20140613183318.36091cd4@sleipner.datanom.net> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 18:10:40 +0200 Andreas Rönnquist wrote: > > I haven't looked at it indepth yet, it might be more complicated than > the previous versions has been to backport. > You can still build claws against libetpan-16 but new features like autoconfig and certificate chain handling will be disabled since these features require libetpan-17. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: You can't fall off the floor. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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W" wrote: > Hello, > > well, no, not really, the FAQ is very vague. > > But, okay, then let me rephrase my question(s): > > > http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/General_Information#What_are_the_differences_between_Claws_Mail_and_Sylpheed.3F > > > > [...] Claws Mail then evolved into the stable, extended version of > > Sylpheed, and in 2006 became an entity in its own right, in part due > > to different goals and the fact that syncing both codebases stopped > > happening. [...] > > What goals does Claws Mail have that Sylpheed does not have? And why > did the syncing stopped happening? I tried Sylpheed once, and it didn't do even a half descend job of working with an IMAP server. SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance From mir at miras.org Fri Jun 13 18:40:02 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 18:40:02 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.10.1 for Debian In-Reply-To: <20140613183318.36091cd4@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20140612173258.1f3524c5@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140613090335.199806b0@centurylink.net> <20140613181040.55f22af2@debian-workstation.lan> <20140613183318.36091cd4@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20140613184002.1660c4fc@sleipner.datanom.net> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 18:33:18 +0200 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 18:10:40 +0200 > Andreas Rönnquist wrote: > > > > > I haven't looked at it indepth yet, it might be more complicated than > > the previous versions has been to backport. > > > You can still build claws against libetpan-16 but new features like > autoconfig and certificate chain handling will be disabled since these > features require libetpan-17. > and libetpan-15 for that matter. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: polygon: Dead parrot. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If the OP was asking for a forum *in addition to* the mailing list, I don't care either way. But if anyone starts saying "we have a forum, so why maintain the mailing list", I'll not be happy. SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance From brad at fineby.me.uk Fri Jun 13 19:10:50 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 18:10:50 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3178] Ubuntu Unity launcher integration In-Reply-To: <20140613124451.38e84267@mydesk> References: <20140611234956.6f537cee.itz@buug.org> <1402595717.17598.YahooMailBasic@web171802.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140612212826.71fcccaa@mike> <20140613124451.38e84267@mydesk> Message-ID: <20140613181050.49eeb067@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 12:44:51 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: Hello Steve, >don't care either way. But if anyone starts saying "we have a forum, so >why maintain the mailing list", I'll not be happy. Given that the people maintaining CM also run the list, I suspect the above scenario simply won't arise. Even if somebody *does* set up a forum, they'll probably find a complete lack of tech support is available to them. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" You don't entertain ideas you simply bore them I Don't Like You - Stiff Little Fingers -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Only certificate chain. Unless implementation had been changed while we speak autoconfiguration uses GLib's GIO resolver :) Backporting libetpan "as is" requires libgnutls28 first, which can be just matter of rebuilding or not (I didn't check). Otherwise just s/libgnutls28-dev/libgnutls-dev/ in libetpan and claws-mail's control files will get rid of that and stay with libgnutls26 which is the one in stable IIRC. regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ bash: ./signature: No such file or directory /bin/bash -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Fields -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From colin at colino.net Fri Jun 13 21:16:53 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 21:16:53 +0200 Subject: [Users] How do I make a preference stick ? In-Reply-To: <20140613151508.099024fb@ron.cerrocora.org> References: <20140613114356.062347df@ron.cerrocora.org> <20140613205325.2eaf789b@mike> <20140613151508.099024fb@ron.cerrocora.org> Message-ID: <20140613211653.1c0e0ade@mike> On 13 June 2014 at 15h15, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: Hi, > > > Each time I (re)start CM I have to go to Configuration => > > > Preferences and check (again) the box "Don't open popup dialogue > > > on receive error" Is there a way to make the preference > > > stick ? > > > How do you quit Claws Mail? > > Usually though a power-cut induced computer crash ;-3( This explains that :) Quit it properly at least once after setting the preference, it will then be saved. -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <20140613211653.1c0e0ade@mike> References: <20140613114356.062347df@ron.cerrocora.org> <20140613205325.2eaf789b@mike> <20140613151508.099024fb@ron.cerrocora.org> <20140613211653.1c0e0ade@mike> Message-ID: <1402687350.3538.20.camel@X1Carbon.localdomain> Hi, On Fri, 2014-06-13 at 21:16 +0200, Colin Leroy wrote: > On 13 June 2014 at 15h15, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > Each time I (re)start CM I have to go to Configuration => > > > > Preferences and check (again) the box "Don't open popup dialogue > > > > on receive error" Is there a way to make the preference > > > > stick ? > > > > > How do you quit Claws Mail? > > > > Usually though a power-cut induced computer crash ;-3( > > This explains that :) > > Quit it properly at least once after setting the preference, it will > then be saved. Why not just saving to preferences file after set thing ? -- -Igor Gnatenko -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <20140613211653.1c0e0ade@mike> References: <20140613114356.062347df@ron.cerrocora.org> <20140613205325.2eaf789b@mike> <20140613151508.099024fb@ron.cerrocora.org> <20140613211653.1c0e0ade@mike> Message-ID: <20140613153231.4b07195d@ron.cerrocora.org> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 21:16:53 +0200 Colin Leroy wrote: > > > > Each time I (re)start CM I have to go to Configuration => > > > > Preferences and check (again) the box "Don't open popup dialogue > > > > on receive error" Is there a way to make the preference > > > > stick ? > > > How do you quit Claws Mail? > > Usually though a power-cut induced computer crash ;-3( > This explains that :) > Quit it properly at least once after setting the preference, it will > then be saved. OK Thanks. Cheers, Ron. -- Madam, there's no such thing as a tough child; if you parboil them first for seven hours, they always come out tender. -- W. C. Fields -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From pf at pfortin.com Fri Jun 13 23:57:05 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 17:57:05 -0400 Subject: [Users] Mailing list vs. forum (Was Re: [Bug 3178] Ubuntu Unity launcher integration) In-Reply-To: <20140613104349.0000763c@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> References: <20140611234956.6f537cee.itz@buug.org> <1402595717.17598.YahooMailBasic@web171802.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140612204538.07b057be@penny> <20140612163047.13e9048c@ron.cerrocora.org> <20140612193902.5f8d15e6@pfortin.com> <20140613104349.0000763c@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140613175705.676f68ee@pfortin.com> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 10:43:49 +0100 Brian Morrison wrote: >On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:39:02 -0400 >Pierre Fortin wrote: > >> On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:30:47 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: >> >> >> But feel free to start your own Claws Mail forum. Who knows, maybe >> >> it will attract many, many users, and I will be left standing here >> >> as a fool. :) >> > >> >Or more likely, you will be left with the serious users... >> >> +1 :+) > >Quite. Some of us have been here for a considerable time... > Quite! Happy user since SC 0.6.1 & joined this list 01/14/02. :) From slitt at troubleshooters.com Sat Jun 14 00:35:49 2014 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 18:35:49 -0400 Subject: [Users] Mailing list vs. forum (Was Re: [Bug 3178] Ubuntu Unity launcher integration) In-Reply-To: <20140613175705.676f68ee@pfortin.com> References: <20140611234956.6f537cee.itz@buug.org> <1402595717.17598.YahooMailBasic@web171802.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140612204538.07b057be@penny> <20140612163047.13e9048c@ron.cerrocora.org> <20140612193902.5f8d15e6@pfortin.com> <20140613104349.0000763c@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20140613175705.676f68ee@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20140613183549.28a4460c@mydesk> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 17:57:05 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 10:43:49 +0100 Brian Morrison wrote: > > >On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:39:02 -0400 > >Pierre Fortin wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:30:47 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > >> > >> >> But feel free to start your own Claws Mail forum. Who knows, > >> >> maybe it will attract many, many users, and I will be left > >> >> standing here as a fool. :) > >> > > >> >Or more likely, you will be left with the serious users... > >> > >> +1 :+) > > > >Quite. Some of us have been here for a considerable time... > > > > Quite! Happy user since SC 0.6.1 & joined this list 01/14/02. :) I just realized, there's a certain irony with requesting a forum for the community around an email client. SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance From pf at pfortin.com Sat Jun 14 01:55:56 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 19:55:56 -0400 Subject: [Users] [SOLVED] Re: Mailing list vs. forum In-Reply-To: <20140613183549.28a4460c@mydesk> References: <20140611234956.6f537cee.itz@buug.org> <1402595717.17598.YahooMailBasic@web171802.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140612204538.07b057be@penny> <20140612163047.13e9048c@ron.cerrocora.org> <20140612193902.5f8d15e6@pfortin.com> <20140613104349.0000763c@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20140613175705.676f68ee@pfortin.com> <20140613183549.28a4460c@mydesk> Message-ID: <20140613195556.656fd46b@pfortin.com> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 18:35:49 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: >I just realized, there's a certain irony with requesting a forum for >the community around an email client. BOOM! Good observation Steve!! LOL From himemsys36 at hotmail.com Sat Jun 14 14:41:05 2014 From: himemsys36 at hotmail.com (Tim Zakharov) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 07:41:05 -0500 Subject: [Users] Read emails getting marked as unread Message-ID: This is weird. Just noticing this over the past few days and not sure what triggered it. I see a "new" email in one of my mailboxes, then notice the date is old. I just had four show up in my Claws mailing list folder, two dated 5/31/14 and two dated 6/7/14. I "Hide Read Messages" in this folder, so I'm guessing these emails were already retrieved, but somehow got marked from read to unread. Anyone else noticing this? -- Regards, Tim Zakharov From mailinglists at gusnan.se Sat Jun 14 15:14:00 2014 From: mailinglists at gusnan.se (Andreas =?UTF-8?B?UsO2bm5xdWlzdA==?=) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 15:14:00 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.10.1 for Debian In-Reply-To: <20140613183318.GF4353@trasgu> References: <20140612173258.1f3524c5@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140613090335.199806b0@centurylink.net> <20140613181040.55f22af2@debian-workstation.lan> <20140613183318.36091cd4@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140613183318.GF4353@trasgu> Message-ID: <20140614151400.189bbf13@debian-workstation.lan> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 20:33:18 +0200, Ricardo Mones wrote: >On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 06:33:18PM +0200, Michael Rasmussen wrote: >> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 18:10:40 +0200 >> Andreas Rönnquist wrote: >> >> > >> > I haven't looked at it indepth yet, it might be more complicated >> > than the previous versions has been to backport. >> > >> You can still build claws against libetpan-16 but new features like >> autoconfig and certificate chain handling will be disabled since >> these features require libetpan-17. > > Only certificate chain. Unless implementation had been changed while >we speak autoconfiguration uses GLib's GIO resolver :) > > Backporting libetpan "as is" requires libgnutls28 first, which can be >just matter of rebuilding or not (I didn't check). Otherwise just >s/libgnutls28-dev/libgnutls-dev/ in libetpan and claws-mail's control >files will get rid of that and stay with libgnutls26 which is the one >in stable IIRC. Thanks - I have looked at building a version with only stable packages - seems to work ok. See that attached debdiff. mones, I will provide a package on mentors for you to upload, but 3.10.1-2 isn't in testing yet, so we'll still have to wait some. - also, my NM process seems to take forever... :( -- Andreas Rönnquist mailinglists at gusnan.se gusnan at gusnan.se -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: claws-backport.diff Type: text/x-patch Size: 1298 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ricardo at mones.org Sat Jun 14 15:53:21 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 15:53:21 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.10.1 for Debian In-Reply-To: <20140614151400.189bbf13@debian-workstation.lan> References: <20140612173258.1f3524c5@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140613090335.199806b0@centurylink.net> <20140613181040.55f22af2@debian-workstation.lan> <20140613183318.36091cd4@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140613183318.GF4353@trasgu> <20140614151400.189bbf13@debian-workstation.lan> Message-ID: <20140614135321.GJ4353@trasgu> On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 03:14:00PM +0200, Andreas Rönnquist wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 20:33:18 +0200, > Ricardo Mones wrote: > > >On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 06:33:18PM +0200, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > >> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 18:10:40 +0200 > >> Andreas Rönnquist wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > I haven't looked at it indepth yet, it might be more complicated > >> > than the previous versions has been to backport. > >> > > >> You can still build claws against libetpan-16 but new features like > >> autoconfig and certificate chain handling will be disabled since > >> these features require libetpan-17. > > > > Only certificate chain. Unless implementation had been changed while > >we speak autoconfiguration uses GLib's GIO resolver :) > > > > Backporting libetpan "as is" requires libgnutls28 first, which can be > >just matter of rebuilding or not (I didn't check). Otherwise just > >s/libgnutls28-dev/libgnutls-dev/ in libetpan and claws-mail's control > >files will get rid of that and stay with libgnutls26 which is the one > >in stable IIRC. > > Thanks - I have looked at building a version with only stable packages > - seems to work ok. > > See that attached debdiff. > > mones, I will provide a package on mentors for you to upload, but > 3.10.1-2 isn't in testing yet, so we'll still have to wait some. Yep, another 3 days, more or less. Relax in the meantime! :) > - also, my NM process seems to take forever... :( Stop whining, mine took 2 years, and you're almost done ;) > -- Andreas Rönnquist > mailinglists at gusnan.se > gusnan at gusnan.se > diff --git a/debian/changelog b/debian/changelog > index d473b01..c830dab 100644 > --- a/debian/changelog > +++ b/debian/changelog > @@ -1,3 +1,12 @@ > +claws-mail (3.10.1-2~bpo70+1) wheezy-backports; urgency=low > + > + * Rebuild for wheezy-backports. > + * Depend on on the versions of libetpan-dev and libgnutls-dev that > + are available in stable [...] Not depending on libetpan 1.5 probably deserves a note explaining that full certificate chain won't be available, since it's a significant change from sid/testing version. regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it. Richard Feynman -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From freebsd at grem.de Sat Jun 14 16:12:00 2014 From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 16:12:00 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.9.3 unleashed!! In-Reply-To: <20140611172640.67e3ad8e@bsd64.grem.de> References: <20131214105500.7545d9f7@thewildbeast> <20140611164721.43d8ff0f@bsd64.grem.de> <20140611171909.34523946@colin.i-run.lau> <20140611172640.67e3ad8e@bsd64.grem.de> Message-ID: <20140614161200.7aaf55f1@bsd64.grem.de> On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 17:26:40 +0200 Michael Gmelin wrote: > > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 17:19:09 +0200 > Colin Leroy wrote: > > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:47:21 +0200, Michael Gmelin > > wrote: > > > > > > New in this release: > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > * The TAB address completion in the Compose window now matches > > > > any part of the address and not just the beginning. > > > > > > I just updated to 3.10 (long overdue) and got this new feature, is > > > there any chance to disable it by configuration? > > > > address_search_wildcard=0 is what you want, a hidden preference that > > is available starting from 3.10.1. > > > > Cool, thank you. > What I would like to see is matching any, but ordering by best match. So if I type "colin" it would first show "colin at colino.net" (best address match), then some other Colin (best name match) and then "NameContainingColin" as the least best match. Would this make sense to you? Unrelated question: I switched to 3.10.1 now and realized that cursor keys will jump between fields in the compose window (in addition to the classic TAB / Shift TAB method) - especially leaving the body to get to subject. Since this is not really symmetric (moving up all the way to "Header" doesn't change anything, but moving down will get stuck in the "From:" select box and also change the selected account in there) I would like to disable this feature - also because I have the habit of holding down the cursor up key to get to the first line and I end up outside of the body field now. Seems like unexpected behavior for a normal GTK application to me. Seems like this has been introduced unconditionally in http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=blobdiff;f=src/compose.c;h=7a1f177319cdde802bf09b3450fb655646492588;hp=cad91a1ae8280416a09606100e7e46a585976c8f;hb=a5a06781957dde46bf24e75d0c2e9919a980ea54;hpb=b976c1dc267711cee1bfea10ab241b38b2c99a21 Would it be possible to add an option to disable this feature? If it's too much hassle to implement, would you accept a patch? -- Michael Gmelin From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jun 15 04:14:14 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 02:14:14 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3212] New: When msgnum matches a sub-folder name, fetch fails Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3212 Bug ID: 3212 Summary: When msgnum matches a sub-folder name, fetch fails Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: other Hardware: All OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Folders/IMAP Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: jer at gentoo.org ** (claws-mail:9482): WARNING **: [02:47:27] IMAP error on *****: FETCH error (claws-mail:9482): Claws-Mail-WARNING **: can't fetch message 2011 (claws-mail:9482): Claws-Mail-WARNING **: can't get message file path. This happened because the message in question resided in an IMAP folder that contained two sub-folders: 2011 and 2012[1]. And indeed, the other message I failed to retrieve had msgnum = 2012: ** (claws-mail:9482): WARNING **: [02:47:36] IMAP error on *****: FETCH error (claws-mail:9482): Claws-Mail-WARNING **: can't fetch message 2012 (claws-mail:9482): Claws-Mail-WARNING **: can't get message file path. After renaming the two offending IMAP folders, the imapcache was able to store two files named "2011" and "2012" along with the renamed folders. I think this namespace collision should be fixed by changing the file naming scheme. Working around the problem by copying the message or renaming the folder isn't something I'd want to often do, and as you might understand I have many IMAP folders named after years. [1] Those are years - I store messages in those that I received in those years, respectively. I wouldn't think it's unlikely someone names IMAP folders after the year they received the messages they store in those folders, so I'm probably not alone. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jun 15 04:14:26 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 02:14:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3212] When msgnum matches a sub-folder name, fetch fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3212 Jeroen Roovers changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Version|other |3.9.3 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jun 15 04:52:29 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 02:52:29 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3212] When msgnum matches a sub-folder name, fetch fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3212 --- Comment #1 from Pierre Fortin --- Namespace collision looks like a good catch... I too have lots of 20xx folders[1]... sounds like flagging the directory names is needed, such as adding a: - leading "." -- I don't like this one since that 'hides' those names. - trailing ".d" (very common in Linux) when the name is all numeric (or always); but hiding the ".d" in the folder list. Oh my! Starting to visualize all the places code might be affected; unless a low-level function hides this from the main code... [1] in my case, all msgnums were already >=2014 when I created most of my yearly archives; so I wasn't affected. Whoa! I should have seen collisions while _creating_ my folders.... AH-HA!! My structure is: MainFolderName Archives <== this contains only yearly directories; no messages. 20xx 20yy I must have done that to reduce the sub-folders shown during expansions when I have many archive sub-folders... and fortuitously avoided this bug. Jeroen: would that be a satisfactory solution or workaround? Although I would suggest an error dialog: /!\ Error: all-numeric folder names not allowed in directories containing messages. Argh! the more I think about this, the messier it gets... my structure above is only valid as long as I never expect to include messages with conflicting names; such as via: - drag & drop - filtering/actions - 'save here' compose That would like require disallowing messages going into folders containing numeric folders.... mutually exclusive... HTH -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jun 15 04:55:50 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 02:55:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3212] When msgnum matches a sub-folder name, fetch fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3212 --- Comment #2 from Pierre Fortin --- s/would like require/would likewise require/ -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From edodd55 at gmail.com Sun Jun 15 10:28:51 2014 From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 18:28:51 +1000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3178] Ubuntu Unity launcher integration In-Reply-To: <20140613181050.49eeb067@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20140611234956.6f537cee.itz@buug.org> <1402595717.17598.YahooMailBasic@web171802.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140612212826.71fcccaa@mike> <20140613124451.38e84267@mydesk> <20140613181050.49eeb067@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140615182851.5cca2485.edodd55@gmail.com> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 18:10:50 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 12:44:51 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > > Hello Steve, > > >don't care either way. But if anyone starts saying "we have a forum, > >so why maintain the mailing list", I'll not be happy. > > Given that the people maintaining CM also run the list, I suspect the > above scenario simply won't arise. > > Even if somebody *does* set up a forum, they'll probably find a > complete lack of tech support is available to them. > I prefer the mailing list, and am moderator for another FOSS project which has its mailing list reflected on Nabble. I see many posts, which I have to let through to the mailing list, which have originated from the Nabble reflector. People ignore the Nabble note that they need to be subscribed to the mailing list to be able to post. Their posts appear on Nabble and then wait for my attention...... So, you can have it both ways. I do agree with the poster who noted the irony in requesting a forum for a mailing list, and some of the arguments against a mailing list including "the mailing list is old-fashioned". From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jun 15 10:31:13 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 08:31:13 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3213] New: Line break in subject of message Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3213 Bug ID: 3213 Summary: Line break in subject of message Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.9.3 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: trivial Priority: P3 Component: UI/Message List Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: trinsnet at gmail.com Created attachment 1404 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1404&action=edit Shows line break in subject on UI-Message List Hello, I'm using ClawsMail in Debian Jessie (testing). I have received an email that contains a line break in the subject. The line break messes up the message list a bit. I think Bug 1116 claims this was fixed, at one point. See attached screen capture to view the aesthetic damage. Thanks for making such a great email client! I'm a new user. Adam -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jun 15 10:32:26 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 08:32:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3213] Line break in subject of message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3213 --- Comment #1 from trinsnet at gmail.com --- Created attachment 1405 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1405&action=edit Redacted copy of the email -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jun 15 10:36:39 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 08:36:39 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3213] Line break in subject of message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3213 trinsnet at gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- See Also| |http://www.thewildbeast.co. | |uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show | |_bug.cgi?id=1116 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From brad at fineby.me.uk Sun Jun 15 12:05:24 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 11:05:24 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3178] Ubuntu Unity launcher integration In-Reply-To: <20140615182851.5cca2485.edodd55@gmail.com> References: <20140611234956.6f537cee.itz@buug.org> <1402595717.17598.YahooMailBasic@web171802.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140612212826.71fcccaa@mike> <20140613124451.38e84267@mydesk> <20140613181050.49eeb067@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140615182851.5cca2485.edodd55@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20140615110524.01ca6804@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 18:28:51 +1000 Liz wrote: Hello Liz, >I prefer the mailing list, and am moderator for another FOSS project I suspect nearly everyone on this ML does. >People ignore the Nabble note that they need to be subscribed to the >mailing list to be able to post. Their posts appear on Nabble and then I see the same sort of thing on many of the lists I'm subbed to; Telling the person replying that their message won't be seen by the OP seems to fall on deaf ears. >I do agree with the poster who noted the irony in requesting a forum >for a mailing list, and some of the arguments against a mailing list Raised a wry smile here, too. >including "the mailing list is old-fashioned". What a retarded argument. I weep for humanity. :-( -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" The deadbeats and the dispossessed, the seekers of unlikeliness Street Of Dreams - The Damned -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jun 15 04:55:50 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 02:55:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3212] When msgnum matches a sub-folder name, fetch fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3212 --- Comment #3 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2014-06-15 14:56:02.592514083 +0200 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=626057017bb7819152585060ff48936647a4d210 Merge: 7bc7ea0 42e1120 Date: Sun Jun 15 14:56:02 2014 +0200 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=42e1120c430aa5da7d3e332200a5f1060a61aafc Author: Colin Leroy Date: Sun Jun 15 14:53:31 2014 +0200 Cache files with a dot in front when a directory with the same number exists. Fixes bug #3212, "When msgnum matches a sub-folder name, fetch fails" http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=42eac1e8f7624533bfff86e14ae5ac007ebbe57d Author: Colin Leroy Date: Sun Jun 15 14:20:15 2014 +0200 Fix creating a numeric directory when a message of the same number exists http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=15784c7a971595c53c0088c80ecde92d126b23eb Author: Colin Leroy Date: Sun Jun 15 14:19:41 2014 +0200 Fix creating a numeric directory when a message with the same number exists http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=7bc7ea0c01b1abb6bf7ff1dddbc243011565fc59 Merge: a718abb eaf1e7a Author: Colin Leroy Date: Fri Jun 13 15:05:02 2014 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jun 15 15:47:52 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 13:47:52 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3212] When msgnum matches a sub-folder name, fetch fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3212 --- Comment #4 from Jeroen Roovers --- (In reply to comment #3) > Changes related to this bug have been committed. But now I get a new problem. When a cached message file, say "2014", already exists, I can add the 2014 folder to IMAP. When I then open the folder, nothing happens yet. So I copy a message to that new "2014" sub-folder and try to open that message, and yet again I can't retrieve it: ** (claws-mail:1073): WARNING **: [15:42:04] IMAP error on *****: FETCH error (claws-mail:1073): Claws-Mail-WARNING **: can't fetch message 1 (claws-mail:1073): Claws-Mail-WARNING **: can't get message file path. That's because a file "2014" already exists, and now the cache sub-directory "2014" cannot be created. You took care of the case of creating the file when the folder exists, but you haven't dealt with the case where the file exists and the folder is created afterwards. Wouldn't it be better to fix this issue definitively by changing the namespace completely (and automatically invalidating and rebuilding the cache when a namespace collision occurs)? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jun 15 17:54:26 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 15:54:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3212] When msgnum matches a sub-folder name, fetch fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3212 --- Comment #5 from Colin Leroy --- Hi, Weird, I have handled that case in this commit: http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=42eac1e8f7624533bfff86e14ae5ac007ebbe57d Can you send a --debug log? Thanks! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jun 15 18:04:47 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 16:04:47 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3212] When msgnum matches a sub-folder name, fetch fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3212 --- Comment #6 from Jeroen Roovers --- (In reply to comment #5) > Weird, I have handled that case in this commit: I thought I had applied all the patches. Might have missed one there. I'll rebuild and try again. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From slitt at troubleshooters.com Sun Jun 15 19:20:23 2014 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 13:20:23 -0400 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3178] Ubuntu Unity launcher integration In-Reply-To: <20140615182851.5cca2485.edodd55@gmail.com> References: <20140611234956.6f537cee.itz@buug.org> <1402595717.17598.YahooMailBasic@web171802.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140612212826.71fcccaa@mike> <20140613124451.38e84267@mydesk> <20140613181050.49eeb067@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140615182851.5cca2485.edodd55@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20140615132023.771e2aea@mydesk> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 18:28:51 +1000 Liz wrote: > I do agree with the poster who noted the irony in requesting a forum > for a mailing list, and some of the arguments against a mailing list > including "the mailing list is old-fashioned". If old-fashioned were universally a bad thing, our cars wouldn't have wheels. SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance From CAE at eslrahc.com Sun Jun 15 21:09:29 2014 From: CAE at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 15:09:29 -0400 Subject: [Users] Appdata files in 3.10.1cvs59 Message-ID: <20140615150929.3fecc48c@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> Noticed issues with appdata with 3.10.1cvs59 None is present for the bogofilter-plugin There is a typo in that for spamassassin-plugin claws-mail-spamassasin.metainfo.xml should be claws-mail-spamassassin.metainfo.xml All appdata files are installed even for plugins which are neither Built nor Installed In may case I do not build bsfilter, clamd, or geolocation but the claws-mail build still wants to install the metainfo for each. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From edodd55 at gmail.com Sun Jun 15 23:55:33 2014 From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 07:55:33 +1000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3178] Ubuntu Unity launcher integration In-Reply-To: <20140615132023.771e2aea@mydesk> References: <20140611234956.6f537cee.itz@buug.org> <1402595717.17598.YahooMailBasic@web171802.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140612212826.71fcccaa@mike> <20140613124451.38e84267@mydesk> <20140613181050.49eeb067@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140615182851.5cca2485.edodd55@gmail.com> <20140615132023.771e2aea@mydesk> Message-ID: <20140616075533.782316bc.edodd55@gmail.com> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 13:20:23 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 18:28:51 +1000 > Liz wrote: > > > > I do agree with the poster who noted the irony in requesting a forum > > for a mailing list, and some of the arguments against a mailing list > > including "the mailing list is old-fashioned". > > If old-fashioned were universally a bad thing, our cars wouldn't have > wheels. > I was tired... I never meant that being old fashioned was a problem! Liz From ghaverla at materialisations.com Mon Jun 16 08:03:55 2014 From: ghaverla at materialisations.com (ghaverla) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 00:03:55 -0600 Subject: [Users] OS changes and BSD, was Claws Mail 3.10.1 for Debian In-Reply-To: <20140611204222.6ca71450@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <20140611204222.6ca71450@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20140616000355.150477d3@newmain.materia> On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 20:42:22 -0400 wrote: > As one of the bugs fixed in 3.10.1 is a Debian-specific bug (730050), > should users who use Debian (myself included), see an updated Claws > Mail package made available at some point? I am about to be ex-Debian person, trying to function until I can change things. I will not install systemd. And I suspect the huge list of claws packages being held back, are likely being held back in part because systemd would need to be installed. A while ago, it looked like Gentoo and Slackware might hold out from systemd, but then Sabayon (sp?) (a binary Gentoo, derivative) seemed to decide it is going to go systemd. And one wonders how this decision might force Gentoo to also join the systemd ranks in Linux. Slackware, seems to be the only other large holdout on forcing everyone to systemd. How long can slackware function, when all the other major distributions push systemd? Looking further afield, Dragon Fly BSD seems interesting. Is Dragon Fly OS a good choice for a Debian desktop person? Things to look out for? Or does a person have to look to Plan 9 or Inferno? Have a great day! Gord From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 16 08:10:48 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 07:10:48 +0100 Subject: [Users] Appdata files in 3.10.1cvs59 In-Reply-To: <20140615150929.3fecc48c@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> References: <20140615150929.3fecc48c@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> Message-ID: <20140616071048.007fa8c7@thewildbeast> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 15:09:29 -0400 Charles A Edwards wrote: > There is a typo in that for spamassassin-plugin Thanks! > In may case I do not build bsfilter, clamd, or geolocation but the > claws-mail build still wants to install the metainfo for each. That's the idea. It's a "here's what you could install" thing. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From zukeprime at gmail.com Mon Jun 16 08:57:41 2014 From: zukeprime at gmail.com (ZP) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 14:57:41 +0800 Subject: [Users] GnuPG - Issue with Key Import from Enigmail Message-ID: <20140616145741.1f651eba@nb01> Hey all, New to Claws and really enjoying it...huge fan of plain text and powerful options. Googled and search the archives, but can't find an answer on this. I've noticed a peculiar issue with GnuPG, more accurately with signed messages from Enigmail...I can't seem to import them automatically within the Claws-mail interface. Of course, I can do it manually from the Key ID, but I was just curious if it had something to do with Enigmail's inline PGP or something else. All other PGP/GPG signatures seem to work just fine (i.e. Apple Mail, Claws, etc). Probably missing a setting somewhere. Anyway, thanks in advance for the explanation. ZP From ricardo at mones.org Mon Jun 16 09:11:46 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:11:46 +0200 Subject: [Users] OS changes and BSD, was Claws Mail 3.10.1 for Debian In-Reply-To: <20140616000355.150477d3@newmain.materia> References: <20140611204222.6ca71450@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140616000355.150477d3@newmain.materia> Message-ID: <20140616071146.GB19201@trasgu> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 12:03:55AM -0600, ghaverla wrote: > On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 20:42:22 -0400 > wrote: > > > As one of the bugs fixed in 3.10.1 is a Debian-specific bug (730050), > > should users who use Debian (myself included), see an updated Claws > > Mail package made available at some point? > > I am about to be ex-Debian person, trying to function until I can > change things. I will not install systemd. And I suspect the huge > list of claws packages being held back, are likely being held back in > part because systemd would need to be installed. If you want to troll about systemd please use any of the Claws Mail forums, but stop telling nonsense in this mailing list. Thanks. -- Ricardo Mones ~ 00:45 < hammar> cool.. have you used rssyl? 00:46 <@Ticho> um, yes Seen on #sylpheed -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ricardo at mones.org Mon Jun 16 09:49:23 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:49:23 +0200 Subject: [Users] Appdata files in 3.10.1cvs59 In-Reply-To: <20140616092201.7796cb7c@colin.i-run.lau> References: <20140615150929.3fecc48c@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> <20140616071048.007fa8c7@thewildbeast> <20140616071615.GC19201@trasgu> <20140616092201.7796cb7c@colin.i-run.lau> Message-ID: <20140616074923.GE19201@trasgu> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 09:22:01AM +0200, Colin Leroy wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:16:15 +0200, Ricardo Mones wrote: > > > > That's the idea. It's a "here's what you could install" thing. > > > > Which is not true when you don't have even *built* the thing :) > > In fact, it's a file shipped in packages to present better info to > the distro's package manager. Agreed, it's completely useless when you build it yourself. So I think this should only be done when some --enable-appdata configure flag is given (which package maintainers would enable). regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ You have the capacity to learn from mistakes. You'll learn a lot today. /usr/games/fortune -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 16 12:25:20 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:25:20 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2065] "Auto select HTML part" doesn't always work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2065 --- Comment #2 from Tomasz Kalkosiński --- I have the same issue with JIRA messages: multipart/related in Claws mail 3.9.3-31. Thank you Paul for your explanation. But is there a solution for this? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 16 12:26:52 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:26:52 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2787] Support multipart/related inside multipart/alternative for HTML Views In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2787 --- Comment #1 from Tomasz Kalkosiński --- Is there a work on this issue in progress? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From irgunii at gmail.com Mon Jun 16 15:19:58 2014 From: irgunii at gmail.com (TN Patriot) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 08:19:58 -0500 Subject: [Users] OS changes and BSD, was Claws Mail 3.10.1 for Debian In-Reply-To: <20140616071146.GB19201@trasgu> References: <20140611204222.6ca71450@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140616000355.150477d3@newmain.materia> <20140616071146.GB19201@trasgu> Message-ID: <20140616081958.2e61ed94@big_ugg.scary_monsters> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:11:46 +0200 Ricardo Mones wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 12:03:55AM -0600, ghaverla wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 20:42:22 -0400 > > wrote: > > > > > As one of the bugs fixed in 3.10.1 is a Debian-specific bug (730050), > > > should users who use Debian (myself included), see an updated Claws > > > Mail package made available at some point? > > > > I am about to be ex-Debian person, trying to function until I can > > change things. I will not install systemd. And I suspect the huge > > list of claws packages being held back, are likely being held back in > > part because systemd would need to be installed. > > If you want to troll about systemd please use any of the Claws Mail > forums, but stop telling nonsense in this mailing list. Thanks. It's only nonsense when the truth hurts. - -- http://www.lawcollective.org/ Learn your rights easily through cartoons! http://www.roadblock.org/rights/ Know your rights about and at roadblocks! http://fija.org/ Learn about Jury Nullification! Take back your rights from the over-reaching: police, justice system and government! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlOe7v4ACgkQVKoUne6H+sRA4ACgkAd/QvIOCzKCoyH9Y5g5Iaky lDQAoI/4S2e/a3+Mksy6L09dXxA/Gfwu =ECui -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From colin at colino.net Mon Jun 16 15:29:36 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 15:29:36 +0200 Subject: [Users] Off-topic rants In-Reply-To: <20140616081958.2e61ed94@big_ugg.scary_monsters> References: <20140611204222.6ca71450@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140616000355.150477d3@newmain.materia> <20140616071146.GB19201@trasgu> <20140616081958.2e61ed94@big_ugg.scary_monsters> Message-ID: <20140616152936.5145e7fc@colin.i-run.lau> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 08:19:58 -0500, TN Patriot wrote: > It's only nonsense when the truth hurts. This is non-sense when it has nothing to do being debated on Claws Mail's mailing-lists. Please let that thread die here, thanks! -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 16 16:47:43 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 14:47:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3212] When msgnum matches a sub-folder name, fetch fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3212 --- Comment #7 from Jeroen Roovers --- Created attachment 1406 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1406&action=edit claws-mail --debug 2>&1 | tee claws-mail.debug.log What I did to get this output: 1) Run the command in the Description. 2) Click on the INBOX folder. 3) Click on the Gentoo-project/2013 folder. 4) Click on the last message in said folder. 5) Close claws-mail. A cache file named '2013' already exists. In stderr this is noted as: /home/jeroen/.claws-mail/imapcache/misha.jer-c2.orkz.net/jeroen/Gentoo-project/2013: mkdir: File exists And from then on (step 4) things start going wrong. This is with a git HEAD build. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 16 17:00:30 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 15:00:30 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3212] When msgnum matches a sub-folder name, fetch fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3212 --- Comment #8 from Colin Leroy --- Ah, the folder already exists. Thanks. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 16 17:00:30 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 15:00:30 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3212] When msgnum matches a sub-folder name, fetch fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3212 --- Comment #9 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2014-06-16 17:29:02.512714931 +0200 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f7a052c927a7bfcfd989c0635064ad475f7c7dd Merge: 4451484 41d7fd7 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Mon Jun 16 17:29:02 2014 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=41d7fd747504c2167a6bb0bb9c07b81c35302812 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Mon Jun 16 17:26:59 2014 +0200 Finish fixing bug #3212 (case where the folder exists, but is uncached and a mail with the same number is cached). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From barry at python.org Mon Jun 16 17:38:55 2014 From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 11:38:55 -0400 Subject: [Users] Mailing list vs. forum (Was Re: [Bug 3178] Ubuntu Unity launcher integration) References: <20140611234956.6f537cee.itz@buug.org> <1402595717.17598.YahooMailBasic@web171802.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140612204538.07b057be@penny> <20140612163047.13e9048c@ron.cerrocora.org> <20140612193902.5f8d15e6@pfortin.com> <20140613104349.0000763c@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20140613175705.676f68ee@pfortin.com> <20140613183549.28a4460c@mydesk> Message-ID: <20140616113855.14377286@anarchist.wooz.org> On Jun 13, 2014, at 06:35 PM, Steve Litt wrote: >I just realized, there's a certain irony with requesting a forum for >the community around an email client. Indeed. While not a forum, if you want to keep your inbox lean, I would highly recommend reading the mailing list via the Gmane NNTP gateway[1]. It's a wonderful thing that Claws supports NNTP so beautifully. -Barry [1] gmane.mail.sylpheed.claws.general -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: From barry at python.org Mon Jun 16 17:42:00 2014 From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 11:42:00 -0400 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.10.1 for Debian References: <20140612173258.1f3524c5@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140613090335.199806b0@centurylink.net> <20140613181040.55f22af2@debian-workstation.lan> Message-ID: <20140616114200.0184da05@anarchist.wooz.org> On Jun 13, 2014, at 06:10 PM, Andreas Rönnquist wrote: >but now I am not sure what needs to be done with libraries that claws >depends on - I believe claws now requires a version of libetpan that >isn't available in stable (or backports) yet. I think this is what's blocking the promotion of CM 3.10 in Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn). I did a merge that seemed to work well for me locally, but it's still sitting in utopic-proposed. I haven't had time to investigate. -Barry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 16 17:50:58 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 15:50:58 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3212] When msgnum matches a sub-folder name, fetch fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3212 --- Comment #10 from Jeroen Roovers --- (In reply to comment #9) > Changes related to this bug have been committed. Now it seems to behave as expected. Thanks! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From i.gnatenko.brain at gmail.com Mon Jun 16 18:04:34 2014 From: i.gnatenko.brain at gmail.com (Igor Gnatenko) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 20:04:34 +0400 Subject: [Users] Appdata files in 3.10.1cvs59 In-Reply-To: <20140616074923.GE19201@trasgu> References: <20140615150929.3fecc48c@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> <20140616071048.007fa8c7@thewildbeast> <20140616071615.GC19201@trasgu> <20140616092201.7796cb7c@colin.i-run.lau> <20140616074923.GE19201@trasgu> Message-ID: <1402934674.3210.1.camel@X1Carbon.localdomain> On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 09:49 +0200, Ricardo Mones wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 09:22:01AM +0200, Colin Leroy wrote: > > On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:16:15 +0200, Ricardo Mones wrote: > > > > > > That's the idea. It's a "here's what you could install" thing. > > > > > > Which is not true when you don't have even *built* the thing :) > > > > In fact, it's a file shipped in packages to present better info to > > the distro's package manager. > > Agreed, it's completely useless when you build it yourself. So I think > this should only be done when some --enable-appdata configure flag is > given (which package maintainers would enable). Patches are welcome I would say. If you will not provide patch tonight - I will send it :P > > regards, -- -Igor Gnatenko -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I did a merge that seemed to work well for me locally, but > it's still sitting in utopic-proposed. I haven't had time to investigate. Check also for gnutls28, which is required for both libetpan 1.5 and claws-mail 3.10.1. regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ Never send a human to do a machine's job. Agent Smith -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 16 22:49:01 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 20:49:01 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3214] New: [patch] Introduce preference to make cursor key up leaves message body optional Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3214 Bug ID: 3214 Summary: [patch] Introduce preference to make cursor key up leaves message body optional Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: PC OS: FreeBSD Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Compose Window Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: freebsd at grem.de Created attachment 1407 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1407&action=edit Patch to introduce preference "cursor_up_leaves_body" Claws 3.10.1 brought a new feature that makes the cursor up key leave the message body when it's already on the first line and jump to the subject line. The attached patch introduces a preference called "cursor_up_leaves_body" that defaults to true. If set to false (0), the pre-3.10.1 behavior is restored. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From ghaverla at materialisations.com Mon Jun 16 22:50:24 2014 From: ghaverla at materialisations.com (ghaverla) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 14:50:24 -0600 Subject: [Users] OS changes and BSD, was Claws Mail 3.10.1 for Debian In-Reply-To: <20140616000355.150477d3@newmain.materia> References: <20140611204222.6ca71450@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140616000355.150477d3@newmain.materia> Message-ID: <20140616145024.61e2adf4@newmain.materia> [ Claws wants PGP key access to respond to Ricardo's note via list, so this note references the wrong message. ] On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:11:46 +0200 Ricardo Mones wrote: > If you want to troll about systemd please use any of the Claws Mail > forums, but stop telling nonsense in this mailing list. Thanks. I am not trolling. As near as I can tell, Claws is one of the packages which through the wonders of dependencies, is trying to force me to install systemd. I've been picking and choosing my updates for 4 or 5 months now. There seems to be half a dozen families of packages which want to bring it in. Gord From slitt at troubleshooters.com Mon Jun 16 23:05:59 2014 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 17:05:59 -0400 Subject: [Users] OS changes and BSD, was Claws Mail 3.10.1 for Debian In-Reply-To: <20140616145024.61e2adf4@newmain.materia> References: <20140611204222.6ca71450@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140616000355.150477d3@newmain.materia> <20140616145024.61e2adf4@newmain.materia> Message-ID: <20140616170559.7db14bfc@mydesk> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 14:50:24 -0600 ghaverla wrote: > [ Claws wants PGP key access to respond to Ricardo's note via list, so > this note references the wrong message. ] > > On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:11:46 +0200 > Ricardo Mones wrote: > > > If you want to troll about systemd please use any of the Claws > > Mail forums, but stop telling nonsense in this mailing list. Thanks. > > I am not trolling. As near as I can tell, Claws is one of the > packages which through the wonders of dependencies, is trying to > force me to install systemd. I've been picking and choosing my > updates for 4 or 5 months now. There seems to be half a dozen > families of packages which want to bring it in. > > Gord If what Gord is saying about Claws depending on systemd is true, it's not a troll at all. So, does or will Claws require systemd? If so, why? It's a standalone application that doesn't need to be started by the boot process. If Claws does NOT require or depend on systemd, please tell us, so we can shut down this thread, and if Gord's distro's (human) package maintainer insists on making systemd a Claws requirement on the distro, Gord (and I) can go yell at the package maintainer. So bottom line, does or will Claws-Mail require systemd, or doesn't it? I promise I'll shut up if it doesn't and won't. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance From kae at midnighthax.com Mon Jun 16 23:15:32 2014 From: kae at midnighthax.com (Keith Edmunds) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 22:15:32 +0100 Subject: [Users] Can't add plugin to toolbar Message-ID: <20140616221532.02129801@web2py.the.cage> Claw 3.10.2 I'm trying to add a plugin ("Mark as Spam" if it matters) to a toolbar. In the toolbar dialog, the item type can be "Internal Function", "User Action", "Plugins" or "Separator". I can't select "Plugins". As the mouse pointer passes over the list, each is highlighted in turn, except Plugins. Am I missing something somewhere? -- Blog: http://goo.gl/iOwv1w "You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you." From colin at colino.net Mon Jun 16 23:16:59 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 23:16:59 +0200 Subject: [Users] OS changes and BSD, was Claws Mail 3.10.1 for Debian In-Reply-To: <20140616170559.7db14bfc@mydesk> References: <20140611204222.6ca71450@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140616000355.150477d3@newmain.materia> <20140616145024.61e2adf4@newmain.materia> <20140616170559.7db14bfc@mydesk> Message-ID: <20140616231659.0cb7851d@mike> On 16 June 2014 at 17h05, Steve Litt wrote: Hi, > So bottom line, does or will Claws-Mail require systemd, or doesn't it? > I promise I'll shut up if it doesn't and won't. It doesn't at all. -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mir at miras.org Mon Jun 16 23:33:18 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 23:33:18 +0200 Subject: [Users] Can't add plugin to toolbar In-Reply-To: <20140616221532.02129801@web2py.the.cage> References: <20140616221532.02129801@web2py.the.cage> Message-ID: <20140616233318.629916ab@sleipner.datanom.net> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 22:15:32 +0100 Keith Edmunds wrote: > I can't select "Plugins". As the mouse pointer passes over the list, > each is highlighted in turn, except Plugins. > > Am I missing something somewhere? Do you have any plugins loaded? -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: (null cookie; hope that's ok) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mark at mkproductions.org Tue Jun 17 00:11:26 2014 From: mark at mkproductions.org (Mark Kane) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 17:11:26 -0500 Subject: [Users] Empty folderlist.xml and Wizard when starting Claws Message-ID: Hi, I had a system shutdown uncleanly due to a power failure, and now Claws shows the setup wizard when starting instead of loading normally. Most of the files in ~/.claws-mail look to be intact, however folderlist.xml (as well as .bak and .tmp) are all 0 byte files with a modification time of when the power failure hit (not a few hours later when the machine was powered back up). Is there any way to recover from this or regenerate folderlist.xml based on the folders that are on disk? There were 4 accounts setup with quite a few folders. The filesystem is UFS with journaled soft-updates, and no other files on the system had issues. Thanks in advance, -Mark From berndth at gmx.de Tue Jun 17 00:55:27 2014 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 00:55:27 +0200 Subject: [Users] Can't add plugin to toolbar In-Reply-To: <20140616221532.02129801@web2py.the.cage> References: <20140616221532.02129801@web2py.the.cage> Message-ID: <20140617005527.79064beb@wodan> On Mo, 16.06.2014 22:15, Keith Edmunds wrote: >I'm trying to add a plugin ("Mark as Spam" if it matters) to a toolbar. What is it supposed to mean to "add a plugin to a toolbar"? You can't do that. You can add actions to a toolbar. The definition of those actions can come from one of three places: Actions defined by Claws Mail internally, actions defined by the user with the "Actions" feature, or actions defined by plugins. If the plugins selection is greyed out, that means that none of your loaded plugins offers any. Claws Mail internally defines the action "Learn Spam or Ham". Maybe that's what you're looking for? Holger From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 17 02:40:32 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 00:40:32 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3215] New: [PATCH] Make wildcard address matching/autocomplete a bit smarter by sorting results in a more human way. Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3215 Bug ID: 3215 Summary: [PATCH] Make wildcard address matching/autocomplete a bit smarter by sorting results in a more human way. Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: PC OS: FreeBSD Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Compose Window Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: freebsd at grem.de Created attachment 1408 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1408&action=edit Patch to add reasonable ordering of autocomplete results. Rusty plain C and GTK, sorry. Order of results: 1. Match beginning of name 2. Match beginning of additional names 3. Match complete email address before @ 4. Match beginning of email address 5. Compare relative position of match 6. Compare name alphabetically 7. Compare address alphabetically. e.g. A) Michael Gmelin B) Michael Gmelin C) Gmelin Michael D) Agme Xample Entering mg: A, B Entering mgme: B Entering gme: C, B, A, D -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From kae at midnighthax.com Tue Jun 17 07:06:47 2014 From: kae at midnighthax.com (Keith Edmunds) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 06:06:47 +0100 Subject: [Users] Can't add plugin to toolbar In-Reply-To: <20140616233318.629916ab@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20140616221532.02129801@web2py.the.cage> <20140616233318.629916ab@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20140617060647.3d3980c0@web2py.the.cage> > Do you have any plugins loaded? Yes, ten, including Spam Report. -- Blog: http://goo.gl/iOwv1w "You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you." -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kae at midnighthax.com Tue Jun 17 07:09:52 2014 From: kae at midnighthax.com (Keith Edmunds) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 06:09:52 +0100 Subject: [Users] Can't add plugin to toolbar In-Reply-To: <20140617005527.79064beb@wodan> References: <20140616221532.02129801@web2py.the.cage> <20140617005527.79064beb@wodan> Message-ID: <20140617060952.37632ec5@web2py.the.cage> > On Mo, 16.06.2014 22:15, Keith Edmunds wrote: > > >I'm trying to add a plugin ("Mark as Spam" if it matters) to a toolbar. My mistake: I mean "SpamReport". > If the plugins selection is greyed out, that means that none of your > loaded plugins offers any. It's not greyed out: it just isn't selectable. Is it not possible to add "SpamReport" to a toolbar? -- Blog: http://goo.gl/iOwv1w "You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you." From itz at buug.org Tue Jun 17 07:12:45 2014 From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 22:12:45 -0700 Subject: [Users] OS changes and BSD, was Claws Mail 3.10.1 for Debian In-Reply-To: <20140616145024.61e2adf4@newmain.materia> References: <20140611204222.6ca71450@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140616000355.150477d3@newmain.materia> <20140616145024.61e2adf4@newmain.materia> Message-ID: <20140616221245.296698df.itz@buug.org> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 14:50:24 -0600 ghaverla wrote: Gord> I am not trolling. As near as I can tell, Claws is one of the Gord> packages which through the wonders of dependencies, is trying to Gord> force me to install systemd. I've been picking and choosing my Gord> updates for 4 or 5 months now. There seems to be half a dozen Gord> families of packages which want to bring it in. Desipte Colin's assurance in the other subthread, I think it is possible that there may be an indirect dependency somewhere. In that case, I plan to proceed according to my usual plan when dealing with this kind of nuisance, which has served me well for many years: 1. Download the _source_ Debian package 2. Edit a few files to make the dependency go away (usually just debian/rules, debian/control and debian/changelog) 3. Build my own binary version of the package, and install that. Done, and ready for more productive use of Debian :-) -- Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages. From ghaverla at materialisations.com Tue Jun 17 07:17:04 2014 From: ghaverla at materialisations.com (ghaverla) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 23:17:04 -0600 Subject: [Users] OS changes and BSD, was Claws Mail 3.10.1 for Debian In-Reply-To: <20140616145024.61e2adf4@newmain.materia> References: <20140611204222.6ca71450@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140616000355.150477d3@newmain.materia> <20140616145024.61e2adf4@newmain.materia> Message-ID: <20140616231704.4582a4b2@newmain.materia> [ Claws wants PGP key access to respond to Colin's note via list, so this note references the wrong message. ] On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 23:16:59 +0200 Colin Leroy wrote: > On 16 June 2014 at 17h05, Steve Litt wrote: > > Hi, > > > So bottom line, does or will Claws-Mail require systemd, or doesn't > > it? I promise I'll shut up if it doesn't and won't. > > It doesn't at all. I assumed something, and became an "ass". Which is common with assumptions. Claws makes use of some Gnome (gtk) functionality, and after yesterday (day before?) update, I see that almost all of claws is being held back. Claws depends on Gnome in part, and Gnome wants systemd (for whatever reason). At some point, it will get sucked in deliberately (another assumption on my part). But for those of us running unstable (or even testing), packaging mistakes happen. Someone makes a mistake in repackaging something, and us users see systemd sucked in through dependencies. Most people just blindly do apt-get upgrade (or dist-upgrade, or safe-upgrade in aptitude), not pick and choose from the list of packages to be updated (which is what I normally do). If the mistake is on some package that I seldom use, I won't update it (and perhaps at some point the wrong dependency gets corrected and the systemd suckin doesn't happen any more). But, what happens if the mistake is on something that should be updated due to security concerns? Sorry, I am not a newbie. I've run UNIX on a M68000 board sitting in a PC/XT, HP-UX, Apple Lisa, that UNIX shell on VMS (Eunice?) and the UNIX like QNX. I own a HP Integral which originally had Sys3 in ROM, later upgraded to Sys V in ROM. I own (and read) the UNIX Programming Environment and Software Tools. I like and appreciate the UNIX environment. I chose Linux because it was following a UNIX philosophy. ==== Running the list of claws-mail-* packages apt-get install claws-mail claws-mail-acpi-notifier claws-mail-address-keeper claws-mail-archiver-plugin claws-mail-attach-remover claws-mail-attach-warner claws-mail-bogofilter claws-mail-bsfilter-plugin claws-mail-clamd-plugin claws-mail-extra-plugins claws-mail-fancy-plugin claws-mail-feeds-reader claws-mail-fetchinfo-plugin claws-mail-gdata-plugin claws-mail-i18n claws-mail-mailmbox-plugin claws-mail-multi-notifier claws-mail-newmail-plugin claws-mail-pdf-viewer claws-mail-perl-filter claws-mail-pgpinline claws-mail-pgpmime claws-mail-python-plugin claws-mail-smime-plugin claws-mail-spam-report claws-mail-spamassassin claws-mail-tnef-parser claws-mail-tools claws-mail-vcalendar-plugin claws-mail-doc claws-mail-plugins clawsker Reading package lists... Building dependency tree... Reading state information... The following extra packages will be installed: claws-mail-libravatar dirmngr gpgsm libetpan17 scdaemon Suggested packages: gedit kwrite mousepad nedit xosd-bin lcdproc The following NEW packages will be installed: claws-mail-libravatar dirmngr gpgsm libetpan17 scdaemon The following packages will be upgraded: claws-mail claws-mail-acpi-notifier claws-mail-address-keeper claws-mail-archiver-plugin claws-mail-attach-remover claws-mail-attach-warner claws-mail-bogofilter claws-mail-bsfilter-plugin claws-mail-clamd-plugin claws-mail-doc claws-mail-extra-plugins claws-mail-fancy-plugin claws-mail-feeds-reader claws-mail-fetchinfo-plugin claws-mail-gdata-plugin claws-mail-i18n claws-mail-mailmbox-plugin claws-mail-multi-notifier claws-mail-newmail-plugin claws-mail-pdf-viewer claws-mail-perl-filter claws-mail-pgpinline claws-mail-pgpmime claws-mail-plugins claws-mail-python-plugin claws-mail-smime-plugin claws-mail-spam-report claws-mail-spamassassin claws-mail-tnef-parser claws-mail-tools claws-mail-vcalendar-plugin clawsker 32 upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and 354 not upgraded. Need to get 8,834 kB of archives. After this operation, 4,314 kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] ===== I need to invoke at least 2 packages, I know xfce4-session is guilty here: apt-get install xfce4-session apache2-doc Reading package lists... Building dependency tree... Reading state information... The following extra packages will be installed: libee0 libestr0 liblogging-stdlog0 liblognorm0 libpam-systemd libsystemd-journal0 libsystemd-login0 rsyslog systemd systemd-sysv Suggested packages: rsyslog-mysql rsyslog-pgsql rsyslog-mongodb rsyslog-doc rsyslog-gnutls rsyslog-gssapi rsyslog-relp systemd-ui fortunes-mod The following packages will be REMOVED: klogd sysklogd sysvinit-core The following NEW packages will be installed: libee0 libestr0 liblogging-stdlog0 liblognorm0 libpam-systemd rsyslog systemd systemd-sysv The following packages will be upgraded: apache2-doc libsystemd-journal0 libsystemd-login0 xfce4-session 4 upgraded, 8 newly installed, 3 to remove and 381 not upgraded. Need to get 5,346 kB of archives. After this operation, 6,807 kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Abort. ==== libgtk-3-0 wants systemd apt-get install libgtk-3-0 apache2-doc Reading package lists... Building dependency tree... Reading state information... The following extra packages will be installed: colord colord-data libcolord2 libcolorhug2 libee0 libestr0 libgail-3-0 liblogging-stdlog0 liblognorm0 libpam-systemd libsystemd-journal0 libsystemd-login0 policykit-1 rsyslog systemd systemd-sysv Suggested packages: rsyslog-mysql rsyslog-pgsql rsyslog-mongodb rsyslog-doc rsyslog-gnutls rsyslog-gssapi rsyslog-relp systemd-ui The following packages will be REMOVED: klogd sysklogd sysvinit-core The following NEW packages will be installed: colord colord-data libcolord2 libcolorhug2 libee0 libestr0 liblogging-stdlog0 liblognorm0 libpam-systemd policykit-1 rsyslog systemd systemd-sysv The following packages will be upgraded: apache2-doc libgail-3-0 libgtk-3-0 libsystemd-journal0 libsystemd-login0 5 upgraded, 13 newly installed, 3 to remove and 380 not upgraded. Need to get 8,658 kB of archives. After this operation, 11.4 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Abort. === Claws currently only depends on libgtk2.0, but there are a bunch of Gnome related dependencies. Some maintainer uploads a new package (into unstable) which inadvertently includes a dependency which drags in systemd by mistake, and now how many people have sucked in systemd without needing (or meaning) to. Gord From kae at midnighthax.com Tue Jun 17 07:44:33 2014 From: kae at midnighthax.com (Keith Edmunds) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 06:44:33 +0100 Subject: [Users] Empty folderlist.xml and Wizard when starting Claws In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140617064433.087ae18d@web2py.the.cage> $ cp folderlist.xml.bak folderlist.xml -- Blog: http://goo.gl/iOwv1w "You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you." From brad at fineby.me.uk Tue Jun 17 07:55:29 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 06:55:29 +0100 Subject: [Users] Empty folderlist.xml and Wizard when starting Claws In-Reply-To: <20140617064433.087ae18d@web2py.the.cage> References: <20140617064433.087ae18d@web2py.the.cage> Message-ID: <20140617065529.7bee7a06@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 06:44:33 +0100 Keith Edmunds wrote: Hello Keith, >$ cp folderlist.xml.bak folderlist.xml Won't help; Re-read OP message. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Where the grass is green and the girls are pretty Paradise City - Guns 'N' Roses -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 17 08:08:38 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 07:08:38 +0100 Subject: [Users] OS changes and BSD, was Claws Mail 3.10.1 for Debian In-Reply-To: <20140616231704.4582a4b2@newmain.materia> References: <20140611204222.6ca71450@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140616000355.150477d3@newmain.materia> <20140616145024.61e2adf4@newmain.materia> <20140616231704.4582a4b2@newmain.materia> Message-ID: <20140617070838.2afeec1f@thewildbeast> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 23:17:04 -0600 ghaverla wrote: > I assumed something, and became an "ass". Which is common with > assumptions. Claws makes use of some Gnome (gtk) functionality, and > after yesterday (day before?) update, I see that almost all of > claws is being held back. > > Claws depends on Gnome in part, and Gnome wants systemd (for > whatever reason). Wrong again. Claws depends on GTK+; GTK+ is not GNOME (the G is for Gimp not Gnome); Claws does not depend on Gnome. It is not a Gnome application, it is desktop neutral. Can you let this thread drop now, even?? with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From kae at midnighthax.com Tue Jun 17 08:13:21 2014 From: kae at midnighthax.com (Keith Edmunds) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 07:13:21 +0100 Subject: [Users] Empty folderlist.xml and Wizard when starting Claws In-Reply-To: <20140617065529.7bee7a06@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20140617064433.087ae18d@web2py.the.cage> <20140617065529.7bee7a06@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140617071321.3f1cfd08@web2py.the.cage> > Won't help; Re-read OP message. Oh, we're supposed to read messages before replying?? The Internet isn't going to like that. Restore from last good backup is the only other advice I have. -- Blog: http://goo.gl/iOwv1w "You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you." -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 17 08:15:37 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 07:15:37 +0100 Subject: [Users] Can't add plugin to toolbar In-Reply-To: <20140617060952.37632ec5@web2py.the.cage> References: <20140616221532.02129801@web2py.the.cage> <20140617005527.79064beb@wodan> <20140617060952.37632ec5@web2py.the.cage> Message-ID: <20140617071537.0ca4c9d0@thewildbeast> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 06:09:52 +0100 Keith Edmunds wrote: > Is it not possible to add "SpamReport" to a toolbar? No, that's why it's greyed-out. It's like Holger said, "If the plugins selection is greyed out, that means that none of your loaded plugins offers any." with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From kae at midnighthax.com Tue Jun 17 08:17:04 2014 From: kae at midnighthax.com (Keith Edmunds) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 07:17:04 +0100 Subject: [Users] Can't add plugin to toolbar In-Reply-To: <20140617071537.0ca4c9d0@thewildbeast> References: <20140616221532.02129801@web2py.the.cage> <20140617005527.79064beb@wodan> <20140617060952.37632ec5@web2py.the.cage> <20140617071537.0ca4c9d0@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140617071704.33bcb1d9@web2py.the.cage> > No, that's why it's greyed-out. It's like Holger said, "If the > plugins selection is greyed out, that means that none of your loaded > plugins offers any." Thanks Paul (and, like I said, it isn't greyed out). -- Blog: http://goo.gl/iOwv1w "You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you." From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 17 08:18:23 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 07:18:23 +0100 Subject: [Users] Empty folderlist.xml and Wizard when starting Claws In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140617071823.433874c1@thewildbeast> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 17:11:26 -0500 Mark Kane wrote: > Is there any way to recover from this or regenerate folderlist.xml > based on the folders that are on disk? You need to upgrade Claws to at least version 3.9.3. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 17 08:21:13 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 07:21:13 +0100 Subject: [Users] Can't add plugin to toolbar In-Reply-To: <20140617071704.33bcb1d9@web2py.the.cage> References: <20140616221532.02129801@web2py.the.cage> <20140617005527.79064beb@wodan> <20140617060952.37632ec5@web2py.the.cage> <20140617071537.0ca4c9d0@thewildbeast> <20140617071704.33bcb1d9@web2py.the.cage> Message-ID: <20140617072113.058b33e1@thewildbeast> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 07:17:04 +0100 Keith Edmunds wrote: > Thanks Paul (and, like I said, it isn't greyed out). I guess that depends on your GTK theme. Often 'greyed-out' is used as a synonym for 'unselectable'. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From kae at midnighthax.com Tue Jun 17 08:23:45 2014 From: kae at midnighthax.com (Keith Edmunds) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 07:23:45 +0100 Subject: [Users] Can't add plugin to toolbar In-Reply-To: <20140617072113.058b33e1@thewildbeast> References: <20140616221532.02129801@web2py.the.cage> <20140617005527.79064beb@wodan> <20140617060952.37632ec5@web2py.the.cage> <20140617071537.0ca4c9d0@thewildbeast> <20140617071704.33bcb1d9@web2py.the.cage> <20140617072113.058b33e1@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140617072345.5d6229c2@web2py.the.cage> > I guess that depends on your GTK theme. Yes, I thought that, but I have other menu items that genuinely are greyed out. The menu in question is simply unselectable, hence my confusion. No matter, thanks for your help. -- Blog: http://goo.gl/iOwv1w "You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you." From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Jun 13 09:47:31 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 07:47:31 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3211] Fails to build in Debian hurd-i386 architecture In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3211 --- Comment #2 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2014-06-17 11:00:02.910909608 +0200 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=1738a2aa659b644195b23be58dff8af22c15dfbb Merge: ebd8958 822857b Author: Colin Leroy Date: Tue Jun 17 11:00:02 2014 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=822857b4d2c40faae26dc5444c5a5ecca1134c8e Author: Ricardo Mones Date: Mon Jun 16 21:40:57 2014 +0200 Fix desktop file Categories and add Keywords http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=66d5513bcc307b46e81c2f11cbe8e3ebcd3d46a8 Author: Ricardo Mones Date: Mon Jun 16 21:31:57 2014 +0200 Fix bug #3211 “Fails to build in Debian hurd-i386 architecture” -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 17 11:10:27 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 09:10:27 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3215] [PATCH] Make wildcard address matching/autocomplete a bit smarter by sorting results in a more human way. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3215 Andrej Kacian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1408|0 |1 is patch| | Attachment #1408|application/octet-stream |text/plain mime type| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 17 12:28:44 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 10:28:44 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3215] [PATCH] Make wildcard address matching/autocomplete a bit smarter by sorting results in a more human way. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3215 --- Comment #1 from wwp --- First, I get a crash when I typed a two-letter combination ("mg") that matches two things in my AB: a group name, and the right part of one email address (after the @). The crash can be immediate or after a long while where CM is 'dead', see: #0 0x0000003355b3385f in __strlen_sse42 () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #1 0x0000000000454193 in weight_addr_match (addr=0xce2a50) at addr_compl.c:187 #2 0x00000000004542be in addr_comparison_func (a=0xb269f0, b=0xce2a50) at addr_compl.c:219 #3 0x000000335725f11f in ?? () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 #4 0x0000000000455192 in complete_address (str=0x2598430 "mg") at addr_compl.c:616 #5 0x0000000000456eb5 in address_completion_complete_address_in_entry (entry=0x13fd720, next=1) at addr_compl.c:1409 #6 0x0000000000456c5a in address_completion_entry_key_pressed (entry=0x13fd720, ev=0x1438d50, data=0xfeefaa) at addr_compl.c:1351 On a CentOS6 64-bit. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 17 12:32:41 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 10:32:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3215] [PATCH] Make wildcard address matching/autocomplete a bit smarter by sorting results in a more human way. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3215 --- Comment #2 from wwp --- And I forgot to add that I definitely agree with the principles behind this patch. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 17 12:47:10 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 10:47:10 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3215] [PATCH] Make wildcard address matching/autocomplete a bit smarter by sorting results in a more human way. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3215 --- Comment #3 from Michael Gmelin --- It's on the hacky side, it works for me as I don't use group names. I'll refine it later tonight or in the next few days and do some more thorough testing. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From moh at gmx.org Tue Jun 17 13:08:41 2014 From: moh at gmx.org (Steffen Klemer) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 13:08:41 +0200 Subject: [Users] OS changes and BSD, was Claws Mail 3.10.1 for Debian In-Reply-To: <20140616231704.4582a4b2@newmain.materia> References: <20140611204222.6ca71450@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140616000355.150477d3@newmain.materia> <20140616145024.61e2adf4@newmain.materia> <20140616231704.4582a4b2@newmain.materia> Message-ID: <20140617130841.2a011b22@pc-k> Am Mo, 16.06.2014 um 23:17 schrieb ghaverla : > apt-get install xfce4-session apache2-doc Try apt-get --no-install-recommends xfce4-session and it should work. /Steffen From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 17 13:16:20 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 11:16:20 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3215] [PATCH] Make wildcard address matching/autocomplete a bit smarter by sorting results in a more human way. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3215 --- Comment #4 from Michael Gmelin --- Created attachment 1409 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1409&action=edit Additional patch (to be applied after the first one) that fixes the crash on group match Fixes the crash and slightly improves weighting in case both name and address match. To be applied *after* applying patch attachment 1408 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 17 13:37:44 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 11:37:44 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3215] [PATCH] Make wildcard address matching/autocomplete a bit smarter by sorting results in a more human way. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3215 --- Comment #5 from wwp --- With this second patch applied I cannot reproduce the issue anymore. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From colin at colino.net Tue Jun 17 14:10:34 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 14:10:34 +0200 Subject: [Users] OS changes and BSD, was Claws Mail 3.10.1 for Debian In-Reply-To: <20140616221245.296698df.itz@buug.org> References: <20140611204222.6ca71450@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140616000355.150477d3@newmain.materia> <20140616145024.61e2adf4@newmain.materia> <20140616221245.296698df.itz@buug.org> Message-ID: <20140617141034.405b3987@colin.i-run.lau> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 22:12:45 -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > Desipte Colin's assurance in the other subthread, I think it is > possible that there may be an indirect dependency somewhere. I can see the spamassassin plugin or clamd plugin requiring spamd or clamd, in turn requiring systemd. Is this, this is a packaging issue, they should just suggest it. -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: From brad at fineby.me.uk Tue Jun 17 16:15:31 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:15:31 +0100 Subject: [Users] Empty folderlist.xml and Wizard when starting Claws In-Reply-To: <20140617071321.3f1cfd08@web2py.the.cage> References: <20140617064433.087ae18d@web2py.the.cage> <20140617065529.7bee7a06@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140617071321.3f1cfd08@web2py.the.cage> Message-ID: <20140617151531.71b3007b@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 07:13:21 +0100 Keith Edmunds wrote: Hello Keith, >Oh, we're supposed to read messages before replying?? The Internet isn't Well, it does help. ;-) >going to like that. Omnipresent the 'net may be, but AFAIAA, it's neither omniscient or omnipotent. OTOH, it might not be far away. :-) >Restore from last good backup is the only other advice I have. That's about all I've got, too. :-( -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Bet you thought you had it all worked out Problem - Sex Pistols -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 17 17:58:49 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 16:58:49 +0100 Subject: [Users] Empty folderlist.xml and Wizard when starting Claws In-Reply-To: <20140617151531.71b3007b@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20140617064433.087ae18d@web2py.the.cage> <20140617065529.7bee7a06@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140617071321.3f1cfd08@web2py.the.cage> <20140617151531.71b3007b@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140617165849.045fe2a2@thewildbeast> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:15:31 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: > >Restore from last good backup is the only other advice I have. > > That's about all I've got, too. :-( Since version 3.9.3 Claws recovers from this problem, saying "the file is missing, do you want to use the backup file?" with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From brad at fineby.me.uk Tue Jun 17 18:28:41 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 17:28:41 +0100 Subject: [Users] Empty folderlist.xml and Wizard when starting Claws In-Reply-To: <20140617165849.045fe2a2@thewildbeast> References: <20140617064433.087ae18d@web2py.the.cage> <20140617065529.7bee7a06@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140617071321.3f1cfd08@web2py.the.cage> <20140617151531.71b3007b@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140617165849.045fe2a2@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140617172841.7d339237@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 16:58:49 +0100 Paul wrote: Hello Paul, >Since version 3.9.3 Claws recovers from this problem, saying "the >file is missing, do you want to use the backup file?" That's great, but Mark said all his .bak & .tmp files were 0 (zero) bytes long (which may indicate he tried to start CM more than once trying to rectify this problem). So, even though the offer would be there to restore from a backup the restore will fail. Or am I missing something? -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Well well well, you just can't tell My Michelle - Guns 'N' Roses -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From himemsys36 at hotmail.com Tue Jun 17 19:27:11 2014 From: himemsys36 at hotmail.com (Tim Zakharov) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 12:27:11 -0500 Subject: [Users] Read emails getting marked as unread In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 07:41:05 -0500 Tim Zakharov wrote: > This is weird. Just noticing this over the past few days and not sure > what triggered it. I see a "new" email in one of my mailboxes, then > notice the date is old. I just had four show up in my Claws mailing > list folder, two dated 5/31/14 and two dated 6/7/14. I "Hide Read > Messages" in this folder, so I'm guessing these emails were already > retrieved, but somehow got marked from read to unread. Anyone else > noticing this? > No replies yet. This continues to happen occasionally. Here is a screenshot showing a new claws mailing list email right next to the old one that is identical to it. Any idea what is going on? -- Regards, Tim Zakharov -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: clawsnewmail.png Type: image/png Size: 19878 bytes Desc: not available URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 16 18:45:25 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 16:45:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3212] When msgnum matches a sub-folder name, fetch fails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3212 --- Comment #12 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2014-06-17 20:23:02.027859842 +0200 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=feca0014b56965af66aec3236ccf8dbe98c0254b Merge: 5d9fc81 4dbe7a8 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Tue Jun 17 20:23:01 2014 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=4dbe7a8759f8928986bd00a0ea635c5c18954651 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Tue Jun 17 20:21:49 2014 +0200 Make sure we don't access out of bounds of the match string. http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=18b45d52267d0d418db258446fac2511088d9c5b Author: Colin Leroy Date: Tue Jun 17 20:07:28 2014 +0200 Fix bug #3212, "Make wildcard address matching/autocomplete a bit smarter by sorting results in a more human way". Patch by Michael Gemlin. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 17 20:23:45 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 18:23:45 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3215] [PATCH] Make wildcard address matching/autocomplete a bit smarter by sorting results in a more human way. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3215 Colin Leroy changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #6 from Colin Leroy --- Thanks Michael, cool patch - much better than the hidden preference :) I think there's at least three of us who wanted to do it, but you beat us to it. Applied with a minor extra check! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 17 21:49:06 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 20:49:06 +0100 Subject: [Users] Empty folderlist.xml and Wizard when starting Claws In-Reply-To: <20140617172841.7d339237@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20140617064433.087ae18d@web2py.the.cage> <20140617065529.7bee7a06@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140617071321.3f1cfd08@web2py.the.cage> <20140617151531.71b3007b@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140617165849.045fe2a2@thewildbeast> <20140617172841.7d339237@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140617204906.42ba7ff3@thewildbeast> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 17:28:41 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: > Or am I missing something? He must have been using a version of Claws older than 3.9.3. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From brad at fineby.me.uk Tue Jun 17 22:04:35 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 21:04:35 +0100 Subject: [Users] Empty folderlist.xml and Wizard when starting Claws In-Reply-To: <20140617204906.42ba7ff3@thewildbeast> References: <20140617064433.087ae18d@web2py.the.cage> <20140617065529.7bee7a06@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140617071321.3f1cfd08@web2py.the.cage> <20140617151531.71b3007b@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140617165849.045fe2a2@thewildbeast> <20140617172841.7d339237@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140617204906.42ba7ff3@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140617210435.4e23aeb9@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 20:49:06 +0100 Paul wrote: Hello Paul, >He must have been using a version of Claws older than 3.9.3. I understand that. But you seem to be missing my point; How can Claws Mail, v3.9.3 or greater, restore data that doesn't exist in a .bak or .tmp file? I/we can only hope that Mark has a sensible backup regimen that means he has a recent copy of ~/.claws-mail that he can pull folderlist.xml from. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" I'm not here for your entertainment U & Ur Hand - P!nk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 17 22:23:37 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 20:23:37 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3215] [PATCH] Make wildcard address matching/autocomplete a bit smarter by sorting results in a more human way. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3215 Michael Gmelin changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|FIXED |--- --- Comment #7 from Michael Gmelin --- Hi Colin, The second extra check is important, but it seems to break the logic though by using the wrong operator (didn't test it yet): if (strlen(match) < strlen(g_completion_prefix) && *(match + strlen(g_completion_prefix)) == '@') a_weight--; I think this should be: if (strlen(match) > strlen(g_completion_prefix) .. since strlen(match) is always >= strlen(g_completion_prefix) and never < strlen(g_completion_prefix). e.g. search for mg in mg at example.org => strlen(match) == 15 => strlen(g_completion_prefix) == 2 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 17 22:23:37 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 20:23:37 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3215] [PATCH] Make wildcard address matching/autocomplete a bit smarter by sorting results in a more human way. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3215 --- Comment #8 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2014-06-17 22:30:02.662353761 +0200 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=0af6a07abeb198f5c70962847d6ea035183410c6 Merge: feca001 93ffffa Author: Colin Leroy Date: Tue Jun 17 22:30:02 2014 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=93ffffab990f8e21541ac13aec7e58a1b44b27b8 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Tue Jun 17 22:29:08 2014 +0200 Fix obvious mistake, thanks Michael (bug #3215) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From edodd55 at gmail.com Tue Jun 17 22:44:18 2014 From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 06:44:18 +1000 Subject: [Users] Read emails getting marked as unread In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140618064418.0dc96565.edodd55@gmail.com> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 12:27:11 -0500 Tim Zakharov wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 07:41:05 -0500 > Tim Zakharov wrote: > > > This is weird. Just noticing this over the past few days and not > > sure what triggered it. I see a "new" email in one of my > > mailboxes, then notice the date is old. I just had four show up in > > my Claws mailing list folder, two dated 5/31/14 and two dated > > 6/7/14. I "Hide Read Messages" in this folder, so I'm guessing > > these emails were already retrieved, but somehow got marked from > > read to unread. Anyone else noticing this? > > > > No replies yet. This continues to happen occasionally. Here is a > screenshot showing a new claws mailing list email right next to the > old one that is identical to it. Any idea what is going on? > I have received emails from the Buglist, not the mailing list, from before I joined the mailing list. Liz From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 17 22:57:47 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 20:57:47 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3214] [PATCH] Introduce preference to make cursor key up leaves message body optional In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3214 Michael Gmelin changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|[patch] Introduce |[PATCH] Introduce |preference to make cursor |preference to make cursor |key up leaves message body |key up leaves message body |optional |optional -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jun 17 23:03:01 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 21:03:01 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3214] [PATCH] Introduce preference to make cursor key up leaves message body optional In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3214 --- Comment #1 from Michael Gmelin --- Would it make sense to add a visible preference for this inside of claws (Configuration->Preferences->Compose->Writing->Editing->"Cursor key up leaves message body" [better name welcome])? I find the new behavior to be really odd for a multi-line input text field. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From himemsys36 at hotmail.com Wed Jun 18 00:51:35 2014 From: himemsys36 at hotmail.com (Tim Zakharov) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 17:51:35 -0500 Subject: [Users] Duplicate mailing list messages Message-ID: I posted this a few days ago under the subject "Read emails getting marked as unread" (an inaccurate title after further analysis). I received no replies to it, so replied to my own topic about 5 hours ago. My reply has not been delivered yet. Is there an issue with the mailing list? At any rate, the issue appears to be that occasionally some old mailing list emails get re-delivered as new. The emails are identical down to the headers and listed delivery time (though the duplicate may actually "arrive" in my inbox many days after the delivery time). I have a screenshot I'd like to attach, though I'm not sure that is allowed on this mailing list. If it's okay, and would like to be seen, please let me know. -- Regards, Tim Zakharov From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jun 18 01:04:22 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 23:04:22 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2551] support sieve script management In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2551 Daniel Mota Leite changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |higuita at gmx.net --- Comment #1 from Daniel Mota Leite --- I think that using the libsieve (http://sodabrew.com/libsieve/) should help a lot building this support thanks -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From ghaverla at materialisations.com Wed Jun 18 04:08:04 2014 From: ghaverla at materialisations.com (ghaverla) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 20:08:04 -0600 Subject: [Users] Adding email addresses to database Message-ID: <20140617200804.3166a512@newmain.materia> Claws allows for adding the sender to the database. But, if you are looking at the Sent mailfolder, you really want to add the destination to the database. I am running 3.9.3 with some Debian patches beyond 3.9.3. Gord From rol at witbe.net Wed Jun 18 04:10:46 2014 From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=)) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 04:10:46 +0200 Subject: [Users] Adding email addresses to database In-Reply-To: <20140617200804.3166a512@newmain.materia> References: <20140617200804.3166a512@newmain.materia> Message-ID: <20140618041046.7348f6a6@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Hello, On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 20:08:04 -0600 ghaverla wrote: > Claws allows for adding the sender to the database. But, if you are > looking at the Sent mailfolder, you really want to add the destination > to the database. > > I am running 3.9.3 with some Debian patches beyond 3.9.3. Not sure with 3.9.3, but with 3.10, you can : - Select the Sent folder, - Tools > Collect addresses > From current folder to have addresses collected and added to the address book (the database). Paul -- TelcoTV Awards 2011 - Witbe winner in "Innovation in Test & Measurement" Paul Rolland E-Mail : rol(at)witbe.net CTO - Witbe.net SA Tel. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 77 Les Collines de l'Arche Fax. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 99 F-92057 Paris La Defense RIPE : PR12-RIPE LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulrolland Skype : rollandpaul "I worry about my child and the Internet all the time, even though she's too young to have logged on yet. Here's what I worry about. I worry that 10 or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say 'Daddy, where were you when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?'" --Mike Godwin, Electronic Frontier Foundation -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ghaverla at materialisations.com Wed Jun 18 04:34:02 2014 From: ghaverla at materialisations.com (ghaverla) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 20:34:02 -0600 Subject: [Users] Adding email addresses to database In-Reply-To: <20140617200804.3166a512@newmain.materia> References: <20140617200804.3166a512@newmain.materia> Message-ID: <20140617203402.497e7bd2@newmain.materia> Trying to reply to Paul's message brings up PGP access, so I am replaying to my original message. n Wed, 18 Jun 2014 04:10:46 +0200 "Paul Rolland \(ポール・ロラン\)" wrote: > Not sure with 3.9.3, but with 3.10, you can : > - Select the Sent folder, > - Tools > Collect addresses > From current folder > to have addresses collected and added to the address book (the > database). I will try this after changing to whatever desktop. I've got too many issues in demolishing decks, redoing plumbing, altering walls and other aspects of renovating a house to deal with at the moment. Thanks. Gord From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jun 18 07:35:37 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 06:35:37 +0100 Subject: [Users] Empty folderlist.xml and Wizard when starting Claws In-Reply-To: <20140617210435.4e23aeb9@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20140617064433.087ae18d@web2py.the.cage> <20140617065529.7bee7a06@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140617071321.3f1cfd08@web2py.the.cage> <20140617151531.71b3007b@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140617165849.045fe2a2@thewildbeast> <20140617172841.7d339237@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140617204906.42ba7ff3@thewildbeast> <20140617210435.4e23aeb9@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140618063537.26e94d0d@thewildbeast> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 21:04:35 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: > I understand that. But you seem to be missing my point; How can > Claws Mail, v3.9.3 or greater, restore data that doesn't exist in > a .bak or .tmp file? The .bak file can only be zero byte if the file it is backup of was zero byte. Mark stopped/started Claws more than once. Probably if he had v3.9.3 he would have avoided re-starting more than once and blanking the back-up file. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jun 18 07:38:43 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 06:38:43 +0100 Subject: [Users] Duplicate mailing list messages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140618063843.55e048c4@thewildbeast> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 17:51:35 -0500 Tim Zakharov wrote: > I posted this a few days ago under the subject "Read emails > getting marked as unread" (an inaccurate title after further > analysis). I received no replies to it, so replied to my own topic > about 5 hours ago. My reply has not been delivered yet. Is there > an issue with the mailing list? I saw this reply. The problem is not the list, the problem is with hotmail.com servers. The other day some users had been unsubscribed due to the hotmail servers wrongly blocking the list. You should look to your mail host for the solution to the problem. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From brad at fineby.me.uk Wed Jun 18 07:56:05 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 06:56:05 +0100 Subject: [Users] Empty folderlist.xml and Wizard when starting Claws In-Reply-To: <20140618063537.26e94d0d@thewildbeast> References: <20140617064433.087ae18d@web2py.the.cage> <20140617065529.7bee7a06@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140617071321.3f1cfd08@web2py.the.cage> <20140617151531.71b3007b@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140617165849.045fe2a2@thewildbeast> <20140617172841.7d339237@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140617204906.42ba7ff3@thewildbeast> <20140617210435.4e23aeb9@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140618063537.26e94d0d@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140618065605.5c78aac3@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 06:35:37 +0100 Paul wrote: Hello Paul, >zero byte. Mark stopped/started Claws more than once. Probably if he >had v3.9.3 he would have avoided re-starting more than once and Right! {fx: penny drops} *Now* I'm with you. Sorry for being slow on the uptake. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" People stare like they've seen a ghost Titanic (My Over) Reaction - 999 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jun 18 09:00:50 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 07:00:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3214] [PATCH] Introduce preference to make cursor key up leaves message body optional In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3214 Colin Leroy changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WONTFIX --- Comment #2 from Colin Leroy --- Hi Michael, After a short discussion on IRC, we've decided not to accept this patch: we don't want to add hidden preferences for every little change we introduce, and also, there is a (more) usable alternative to go on top of an email, which is the Home key :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From r.brusa at gmx.ch Wed Jun 18 09:43:43 2014 From: r.brusa at gmx.ch (Roman Brusa) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 09:43:43 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3214] [PATCH] Introduce preference to make cursor key up leaves message body optional In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140618094343.3366f6c7@rbits.ch> Aus der Nachricht von noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk vom Wed, 18 Jun 2014 07:00:50 +0000: >After a short discussion on IRC, we've decided not to accept this >patch: we don't want to add hidden preferences for every little change >we introduce, and also, there is a (more) usable alternative to go on >top of an email, which is the Home key :) Objection: For me, this is not a "little change". While answering and editing a message, I do very often go up and down with cursor keys. Now it goes up to the header fields, and what is worse, it changes the sender account! So if I'm not very careful, there's a good chance that the mail goes from the wrong sender account. I try hard to use the home key instead ever since the new "feature" came. But first, that is not the same, and second, it's not easy to change behavior that you got used to for many years. I would much appreciate to get the old behavior back. FWIW, Roman -- Alles Alte, soweit es den Anspruch darauf verdient hat, sollen wir lieben; aber fuer das Neue sollen wir eigentlich leben. - Theodor Fontane From freebsd at grem.de Wed Jun 18 11:34:41 2014 From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 11:34:41 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3214] [PATCH] Introduce preference to make cursor key up leaves message body optional In-Reply-To: <20140618094343.3366f6c7@rbits.ch> References: <20140618094343.3366f6c7@rbits.ch> Message-ID: <20140618113441.06f77a4b@bsd64.grem.de> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 09:43:43 +0200 Roman Brusa wrote: > Aus der Nachricht von noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk vom Wed, 18 Jun 2014 > 07:00:50 +0000: > > >After a short discussion on IRC, we've decided not to accept this > >patch: we don't want to add hidden preferences for every little > >change we introduce, and also, there is a (more) usable alternative > >to go on top of an email, which is the Home key :) > > Objection: For me, this is not a "little change". While answering and > editing a message, I do very often go up and down with cursor keys. > Now it goes up to the header fields, and what is worse, it changes the > sender account! So if I'm not very careful, there's a good chance that > the mail goes from the wrong sender account. > > I try hard to use the home key instead ever since the new "feature" > came. But first, that is not the same, and second, it's not easy to > change behavior that you got used to for many years. > > I would much appreciate to get the old behavior back. > I haven't used the home key in about 15 years, my laptop doesn't even have a dedicated one (only a key combination that doesn't work in the environment I run claws in for technical reasons), my older 15 inch laptop had one, but I still didn't use it since it was in a very awkward place that would interrupt the workflow. Also, scrolling up by holding down the cursor up key is not uncommon and a different functionality than just hitting Home, especially on smaller screens. That's what I noticed myself, I don't do this to just go to the very top, but to glance on the entire email thread until it won't move any more. I observed myself doing this a couple of times just while writing this email. I can't imagine I'm the only one doing this. So the main issue here isn't really "go to beginning of mail", but "scroll backwards". It's not a big deal for me personally, since I can patch claws myself on update and I'm building it from source anyway. I just want to repeat my concern that it is very unusual for an UI application to behave like this and expecting people to change the way they're using such a basic widget like a scrollable text input area for just one place in one program is violating HMI expectations. There is a well understood and working way to change to the subject line (Shift-TAB) which works universally in all GTK apps and afaik all windowed desktop environments and regardless of where the cursor is, so I don't understand the need for this feature in the first place. It seems to be designed so that it's used accidentally more often than intentionally. Thinking about it, I would prefer to remove the feature or at the very least make it configurable and disable it by default. - Michael -- Michael Gmelin From andrej at kacian.sk Wed Jun 18 13:16:22 2014 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 13:16:22 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3214] [PATCH] Introduce preference to make cursor key up leaves message body optional In-Reply-To: <20140618113441.06f77a4b@bsd64.grem.de> References: <20140618094343.3366f6c7@rbits.ch> <20140618113441.06f77a4b@bsd64.grem.de> Message-ID: <20140618131622.3eb469f7@hiker> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 11:34:41 +0200 Michael Gmelin wrote: > Thinking about it, I would prefer to remove > the feature or at the very least make it configurable and disable it > by default. After some more talking on IRC, it was decided to scrap the whole feature. What wouldn't we do for our users! :) P.S.: Cue users who liked the feature and now will miss it dearly. :) -- Andrej From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Wed Jun 18 13:33:23 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 12:33:23 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3214] [PATCH] Introduce preference to make cursor key up leaves message body optional In-Reply-To: <20140618131622.3eb469f7@hiker> References: <20140618094343.3366f6c7@rbits.ch> <20140618113441.06f77a4b@bsd64.grem.de> <20140618131622.3eb469f7@hiker> Message-ID: <20140618123323.00000c4c@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 13:16:22 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > P.S.: Cue users who liked the feature and now will miss it dearly. :) You could always have an inverted hidden preference :-p -- Brian Morrison From freebsd at grem.de Wed Jun 18 13:46:38 2014 From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 13:46:38 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3214] [PATCH] Introduce preference to make cursor key up leaves message body optional In-Reply-To: <20140618131622.3eb469f7@hiker> References: <20140618094343.3366f6c7@rbits.ch> <20140618113441.06f77a4b@bsd64.grem.de> <20140618131622.3eb469f7@hiker> Message-ID: <20140618134638.0f76d66d@bsd64.grem.de> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 13:16:22 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 11:34:41 +0200 > Michael Gmelin wrote: > > > Thinking about it, I would prefer to remove > > the feature or at the very least make it configurable and disable it > > by default. > > After some more talking on IRC, it was decided to scrap the whole > feature. What wouldn't we do for our users! :) Thank you :) > > P.S.: Cue users who liked the feature and now will miss it dearly. :) > If there is popular demand I'll be more than happy to help to bring the feature back as a non-hidden configuration option ;) -- Michael Gmelin From himemsys36 at hotmail.com Wed Jun 18 14:11:01 2014 From: himemsys36 at hotmail.com (Tim Zakharov) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 07:11:01 -0500 Subject: [Users] Duplicate mailing list messages In-Reply-To: <20140617175135.11df93ba@tim-Aspire-7736> References: <20140617175135.11df93ba@tim-Aspire-7736> Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 17:51:35 -0500 Tim Zakharov wrote: > I posted this a few days ago under the subject "Read emails > getting marked as unread" (an inaccurate title after further > analysis). I received no replies to it, so replied to my own topic > about 5 hours ago. My reply has not been delivered yet. Is there an > issue with the mailing list? > > At any rate, the issue appears to be that occasionally some old > mailing list emails get re-delivered as new. The emails are > identical down to the headers and listed delivery time (though the > duplicate may actually "arrive" in my inbox many days after the > delivery time). > > I have a screenshot I'd like to attach, though I'm not sure that is > allowed on this mailing list. If it's okay, and would like to be > seen, please let me know. > Paul, thanks for the reply. I read it through the online archives, as Hotmail has not been delivering mailing list messages for a few days now. I will take it up with them. -- Regards, Tim Zakharov From slitt at troubleshooters.com Wed Jun 18 16:54:10 2014 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 10:54:10 -0400 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3214] [PATCH] Introduce preference to make cursor key up leaves message body optional In-Reply-To: <20140618131622.3eb469f7@hiker> References: <20140618094343.3366f6c7@rbits.ch> <20140618113441.06f77a4b@bsd64.grem.de> <20140618131622.3eb469f7@hiker> Message-ID: <20140618105410.02a95f90@mydesk> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 13:16:22 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 11:34:41 +0200 > Michael Gmelin wrote: > > > Thinking about it, I would prefer to remove > > the feature or at the very least make it configurable and disable it > > by default. > > After some more talking on IRC, it was decided to scrap the whole > feature. What wouldn't we do for our users! :) Sounds good to me. Scrolling up a long message, and next thing you know you're not in the message anymore? Who needs that annoyance? Shift+Tab goes to the subject, and from there you can shift+tab to the address fields or the from field. > P.S.: Cue users who liked the feature and now will miss it dearly. :) One man's opinion: There should be an overwhelmingly compelling reason to change something that's already working, and that people have gotten used to and incorporated into their workflow. I've seen a lot of users demand all sorts of changes, usually to accommodate their Kmail or OS/x habits, instead of getting used to the software as it exists. You know what? They'll get over it. Or go back to Kmail or OS/x. Me, I'd rather leave things as-is, and concentrate on anything that's universally desired.. And if something that was already working *is*, it should certainly be a configuration option so it doesn't mess up the majority who liked things just the way they were. By the way, if the Claws compose window had always worked so that up cursor went to the fields above, and someone suggested keeping it in the message box, I'd be equally skeptical. My main concern is habit stability from version to version. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance From pf at pfortin.com Wed Jun 18 17:46:30 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 11:46:30 -0400 Subject: [Users] claws git question... Message-ID: <20140618114630.225f40f7@pfortin.com> Hi guys, I rebuild CM when I get time and/or for feature/bug reasons; on average every few weeks... Sometimes, the only way to get the latest is to clobber $SRC/claws and do a full clone because I get something like the below errors -- even though I've never touched the flagged files... Am I misunderstanding git? Or... is this something that happens when lots of changes have occurred since my last pull --all? Or... does this happen when CM requires a new distro package (intltool this time)? Thanks, Pierre remote: Counting objects: 5, done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (3/3), done. remote: Total 3 (delta 2), reused 0 (delta 0) Unpacking objects: 100% (3/3), done. From http://git.claws-mail.org/readonly/claws 3fc9e21..8cd3792 master -> origin/master error: Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by merge: po/bg.po [snip snip] po/zh_TW.po src/summaryview.c Please, commit your changes or stash them before you can merge. Aborting From ricardo at mones.org Wed Jun 18 18:01:28 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 18:01:28 +0200 Subject: [Users] claws git question... In-Reply-To: <20140618114630.225f40f7@pfortin.com> References: <20140618114630.225f40f7@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20140618160128.GR19201@trasgu> Hi Pierre, On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:46:30AM -0400, Pierre Fortin wrote: > Hi guys, > > I rebuild CM when I get time and/or for feature/bug reasons; on average > every few weeks... > > Sometimes, the only way to get the latest is to clobber $SRC/claws and do > a full clone because I get something like the below errors -- even though > I've never touched the flagged files... > > Am I misunderstanding git? > > Or... is this something that happens when lots of changes have occurred > since my last pull --all? > > Or... does this happen when CM requires a new distro package (intltool > this time)? None of the above :) > > po/bg.po > [snip snip] > po/zh_TW.po Changes in po files occur always when you build it. The easiest is to “git checkout po/*.po” again to discard build changes. > src/summaryview.c This looks like you've a genuine change here, which you should do one of the git suggested actions: > Please, commit your changes or stash them before you can merge. Or also git checkout if you want to discard them. HTH, -- Ricardo Mones ~ bash: ./signature: No such file or directory /bin/bash -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From pf at pfortin.com Wed Jun 18 18:29:29 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 12:29:29 -0400 Subject: [Users] claws git question... In-Reply-To: <20140618160128.GR19201@trasgu> References: <20140618114630.225f40f7@pfortin.com> <20140618160128.GR19201@trasgu> Message-ID: <20140618122929.4c760d26@pfortin.com> Hi Ricardo! On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 18:01:28 +0200 Ricardo Mones wrote: > Hi Pierre, > >On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:46:30AM -0400, Pierre Fortin wrote: >> >> po/bg.po >> [snip snip] >> po/zh_TW.po > > Changes in po files occur always when you build it. The easiest >is to “git checkout po/*.po” again to discard build changes. Never dug in deep enough to realize this... :) Added to my script. Would it be reasonable to add this to the instructions? http://claws-mail.org/git.php?section=projects >> src/summaryview.c > > This looks like you've a genuine change here, Oops... did this to help track down a corrupted cache... my bad for forgetting to trash it... :} > which you should >do one of the git suggested actions: > >> Please, commit your changes or stash them before you can merge. > > Or also git checkout if you want to discard them. > > HTH, Sure does! Thanks!!! From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jun 18 19:52:53 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 17:52:53 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3216] New: up/down cursor operates in wrong object Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3216 Bug ID: 3216 Summary: up/down cursor operates in wrong object Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: UI/Compose Window Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: pf at pfortin.com somewhat related to bug 3214 Seen on 3.10.0-79... [Debated between bug/enhancement status] In new compose window (cursor in To: text area), up/down arrows allow switching between {{To:,Cc:,Bcc:},,From:,Subject:} text areas, and this is fine. However, one extra up arrow moves the focus LEFT into the account [drop-down] selector where it get trapped where it now changes sending account. Please remove the account selector from the up/down arrow scope -- the intent of up/down seems to be to move vertically between "text" areas, not sideways into selectors. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From CAE at eslrahc.com Wed Jun 18 20:14:56 2014 From: CAE at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 14:14:56 -0400 Subject: [Users] Patch to add NOCONFIGURE support to autogen.sh Message-ID: <20140618141456.3c658457@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> The attached patch will add NOCONFIGURE support to autogen.sh. If not familiar with it, building with NOCONFIGURE=1 means that autogen.sh will not run configure. It will exit and the user must run configure. This can be useful in various instances. I find it to be so when building rpms as the distro uses a macro %configure|%configure2_5x which adds specific flags and variables when configure is run. Charles -- Boren's Laws: (1) When in charge, ponder. (2) When in trouble, delegate. (3) When in doubt, mumble. ---------------------- Mageia release 5 (Cauldron) for x86_64$ On SuperSize....http://www.eslrahc.com Registered Linux user #182463 3.15.1-server-1.mga5 x86_64 ---------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: autogen.sh-NOCONFIGURE.patch Type: text/x-patch Size: 404 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jun 18 21:05:47 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 19:05:47 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3216] up/down cursor operates in wrong object In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3216 Andrej Kacian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian --- A good idea, fixed in git. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jun 18 21:05:47 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 19:05:47 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3216] up/down cursor operates in wrong object In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3216 --- Comment #2 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2014-06-18 21:06:02.121657662 +0200 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=58f6266b33afb9c5fc9d93aeafef2bbc6c25568b Merge: 7ed603a 7975def Author: Colin Leroy Date: Wed Jun 18 21:06:01 2014 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=7975defae6a05b78d287553acd5d221d6663286b Author: Andrej Kacian Date: Wed Jun 18 21:03:54 2014 +0200 In compose window, prevent account selection combobox to get focus when navigating widgets using arrow keys. Closes bug #3216. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From linxt at comcast.net Wed Jun 18 21:48:09 2014 From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 12:48:09 -0700 Subject: [Users] OS conversion? Message-ID: <20140618124809.73bbd380@desktop-2.home> Is there a way to easily convert Linux claws-mail settings/configuration files for a windows install? Thanks, Tom -- "To be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others."  - Nelson Mandela ^^ --... ...-- / -.- --. --... -.-. ..-. -.-. ^^^^ Tom Taylor KG7CFC openSUSE 13.1 (64-bit), Kernel 3.11.6-4-default, KDE 4.11.2, AMD Phenom X4 955, GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Nvidia 325.15) 16GB RAM -- 3x1.5TB sata2 -- 128GB-SSD FF 27.0, claws-mail 3.10.0 registered linux user 263467 From kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com Wed Jun 18 22:13:54 2014 From: kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com (Abhay S. Kushwaha) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 01:43:54 +0530 Subject: [Users] OS conversion? In-Reply-To: <20140618124809.73bbd380@desktop-2.home> References: <20140618124809.73bbd380@desktop-2.home> Message-ID: <20140619014354.00004eac@netsolutionsindia.com> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 12:48:09 -0700, Thomas wrote: > Is there a way to easily convert Linux claws-mail > settings/configuration files for a windows install? You can copy over & use your .claws-mail folder directly. The only 6 things you will have to do. All 6 are optional: 1. Load plug-ins again. Applicable only if you've loaded any plugins. 2. Make sure the "path" in folderlist.xml points to the correct Mail folder. This is if you want to move over your current mailbox to Windows too. Otherwise you can set this up by using "Add mailbox" functionality in the main UI. 3. Set up fonts again if you've changed them. There are actually only 14 settings unique to a Win32 set-up. 4. in "menurc", change to everywhere. This is only needed if you've changed any default key bindings. This is needed because Win32 CM uses an older version of GTK+ that still refers to Ctrl key as 5. Copy over "actionssrc" to "actionswinrc" or set up Actions again. Only applicable if you have set up actions in CM. 6. Update path to signatures in your defined accounts. This is only applicable if you've set up account specific signatures. Have fun! :) From colin at colino.net Wed Jun 18 22:30:59 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 22:30:59 +0200 Subject: [Users] OS conversion? In-Reply-To: <20140619014354.00004eac@netsolutionsindia.com> References: <20140618124809.73bbd380@desktop-2.home> <20140619014354.00004eac@netsolutionsindia.com> Message-ID: <20140618223059.706f26d1@mike> On 19 June 2014 at 01h43, Abhay S. Kushwaha wrote: Hi, > The only 6 things you will have to do. All 6 are optional: > 1. Load plug-ins again. Applicable only if you've loaded any plugins. > 2. Make sure the "path" in folderlist.xml points to the correct Mail > folder. This is if you want to move over your current mailbox to > Windows too. Otherwise you can set this up by using "Add mailbox" > functionality in the main UI. Check the folders' path separators, too... -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: not available URL: From edodd55 at gmail.com Wed Jun 18 22:53:15 2014 From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 06:53:15 +1000 Subject: [Users] html mail - how to display stuff in a tabular form Message-ID: <20140619065315.6f87582b.edodd55@gmail.com> No, I don't make html mail, I get these. And I have great difficulty reading this stuff because it doesn't display in a table even when I select text/html for display. Can someone tell me how to get Claws-Mail to display this in a table? Sample display ============================ Month City Days/Dates Panel Comments August Brisbane Thurs 28 – Fri 29 Chair URGENT September Adelaide Mon 1 – Tues 2 2 panellist Brisbane Thurs 11 – Fri 12 1 panellist ================================ Some of the (bloated) html stuff +++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com Wed Jun 18 23:09:56 2014 From: kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com (Abhay S. Kushwaha) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 02:39:56 +0530 Subject: [Users] html mail - how to display stuff in a tabular form In-Reply-To: <20140619065315.6f87582b.edodd55@gmail.com> References: <20140619065315.6f87582b.edodd55@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20140619023956.0000312d@netsolutionsindia.com> On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 06:53:15 +1000, Liz wrote: > No, I don't make html mail, I get these. > And I have great difficulty reading this stuff because it doesn't > display in a table even when I select text/html for display. > > Can someone tell me how to get Claws-Mail to display this in a > table? You see the HTML part listed in the right-most narrow column that shows different email parts? Right-click on it and choose "Open". That'll open up the HTML part in your browser. Gets my job done for those rare emails that are too funky for Fancy. From itz at buug.org Wed Jun 18 23:45:16 2014 From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 14:45:16 -0700 Subject: [Users] claws git question... In-Reply-To: <20140618160128.GR19201@trasgu> References: <20140618114630.225f40f7@pfortin.com> <20140618160128.GR19201@trasgu> Message-ID: <20140618144516.31e95abf.itz@buug.org> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 18:01:28 +0200 Ricardo Mones wrote: >> >> po/bg.po >> [snip snip] >> po/zh_TW.po Ricardo> Changes in po files occur always when you build it. The Ricardo> easiest is to “git checkout po/*.po” again to discard build Ricardo> changes. IMNSHO this is a bu^H^Hinfelicity in the build system. A sequence of $ ./configure $ make $ make install $ make distclean should be a no-op wrt the claws directory. If starting from a git tree, autogen.sh may create some extra files that are not in git, but again it should not modify _existing_ files. I know this rule is almost universally violated, but still it should be the ideal. -- Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages. From andrej at kacian.sk Thu Jun 19 00:08:49 2014 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 00:08:49 +0200 Subject: [Users] claws git question... In-Reply-To: <20140618144516.31e95abf.itz@buug.org> References: <20140618114630.225f40f7@pfortin.com> <20140618160128.GR19201@trasgu> <20140618144516.31e95abf.itz@buug.org> Message-ID: <20140619000849.0d63ebb3@penny> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 14:45:16 -0700 Ian Zimmerman wrote: > IMNSHO this is a bu^H^Hinfelicity in the build system. A sequence of > > $ ./configure > $ make > $ make install > $ make distclean > > should be a no-op wrt the claws directory. If starting from a git tree, > autogen.sh may create some extra files that are not in git, but again it > should not modify _existing_ files. I fully agree, and patches to fix this are welcome. I know this has bugged me as well for a long while now while working on the code, but I am too scared to get into autotools logic. Probably the update-po (or po-update, I can never remember) make target should be removed from any dependencies of other make targets, and should only be invoked manually before the release? -- Andrej Kacian From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 19 00:19:55 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 22:19:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3217] New: separate message list show and sort features Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3217 Bug ID: 3217 Summary: separate message list show and sort features Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: UI/Message List Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: pf at pfortin.com See also bug 3171 where I changed summary_from_show=1 The issue now is that I prefer summary_from_show={0,2} for display and 1 for sorting... mutually exclusive... :/ {Name only,Address only,Both name and address} are useful for deciding what to show in the From column; but I can't come up with a valid reason for using anything but address for sorting. 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There are several settings in Claws-Mail that I'd like to get working if possible. My accounts are setup as IMAP/SMTP 1. How to save Draft messages to a local folder rather than to [IMAP]/Drafts? 2. When sending messages, encoding setting is ignored. In Config > Preferences > Mail_Handling > Sending > Outgoing is set to UTF-8, but some mails show: "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII \ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit". Is this an automatic selection feature in Claws? 3. When generating "Message ID" is it possible to prevent machine uname from being included to ID or if not, use a different uname alias? For example Message-ID: <20140619.3b2f at alias.c> 4. In Gmail IMAP: A non gmail IMAP account gets setup very cleanly with (Inbox/Sent/Drafts/Queue/Trash/Spam) under . Gmail on the other hand gets All those folders, plus [Gmail]/all_label_names. I can't delete the folders created by Claws. I have already modified the target folders (Trash, Queue, Sent) under Account > Advanced_settings. How do I get a clean folder structure? Can I remove the Claws-configured folders? 5. Gmail IMAP is generating a lot of traffic with the server and is also slow to display contents when switching from one folder (label) to another. I have tried "Sync for offline use > last 10 days". Network log shows each label (folder) being checked separately, which is the cause of so much traffic. "Unsubscribing" from the separately visible labels did not help as much as I expected with regards to the traffic amount. 6. Deleting messages from [Gmail]/AllMail with DEL does not work - messages still remain. I have to drag-and-drop to [Gmail]/Trash to actually delete. 7. What is the difference between File Insert vs File Attach? Thanks for your time and regards. -- FreeBSD_amd64_11-Current_RadeonKMS From list at eworm.de Fri Jun 20 11:01:07 2014 From: list at eworm.de (Christian Hesse) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 11:01:07 +0200 Subject: [Users] GCompletion Message-ID: <20140620110107.1d76f857@leda.localdomain> Hello everybody, GCompletion has been deprecated in glib 2.26, which is quite old. Is there anything planned to replace GCompletion? -- main(a){char*c=/* Schoene Gruesse */"B?IJj;MEH" "CX:;",b;for(a/* Chris get my mail address: */=0;b=c[a++];) putchar(b-1/(/* gcc -o sig sig.c && ./sig */b/42*2-3)*42);} -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Jun 20 13:02:53 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 11:02:53 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3119] add plugin to display QR-Code for avatar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3119 Christian Hesse changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1355|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #16 from Christian Hesse --- Created attachment 1410 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1410&action=edit add plugin to display QR-Code for avatar Updated for git master. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Jun 20 13:04:34 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 11:04:34 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2868] address completion with gpg keyring In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2868 Christian Hesse changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #15 from Christian Hesse --- This has been applied some time ago. Thanks! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Jun 20 20:36:56 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 18:36:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3158] Avatar plugin priority In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3158 --- Comment #1 from Christian Hesse --- Trying to get this in place... Any hints how to manage this at runtime and where/how to save the configuration? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Jun 20 22:55:00 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 20:55:00 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3158] Avatar plugin priority In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3158 --- Comment #2 from Christian Hesse --- Created attachment 1411 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1411&action=edit prepare GUI for avatar priority Just started by writing some GUI code... The important things are still missing, though. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From himemsys36 at hotmail.com Sat Jun 21 01:58:06 2014 From: himemsys36 at hotmail.com (Tim Zakharov) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 18:58:06 -0500 Subject: [Users] outlook.com SSL handshake failed Message-ID: Occasionally (maybe once a day?) I see that while checking for email that Hotmail/Outlook.com (both use pop-mail.outlook.com) fail with: *** SSL handshake failed in the network logs. Is this related to the recent Hotmail issue that led to my mailing list settings to disable? -- Regards, Tim Zakharov From jerry at seibercom.net Sat Jun 21 12:22:16 2014 From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 06:22:16 -0400 Subject: [Users] outlook.com SSL handshake failed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140621062216.2c6986af@scorpio> On Fri, 20 Jun 2014 18:58:06 -0500, Tim Zakharov stated: > Occasionally (maybe once a day?) I see that while checking for email > that Hotmail/Outlook.com (both use pop-mail.outlook.com) fail with: > > *** SSL handshake failed > > in the network logs. > > Is this related to the recent Hotmail issue that led to my mailing list > settings to disable? Are you sure your settings are correct? I use the following: POP3 -- "pop3.live.com" via port 995 with "Use SSL for POP3 Connection" SMTP -- "smtp.live.com" via port 25 with "Use STARTTLS" to start SSL session" I am not experiencing any problems that I know of and I have two accounts that I check. -- Jerry From himemsys36 at hotmail.com Sat Jun 21 13:49:42 2014 From: himemsys36 at hotmail.com (Tim Zakharov) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 06:49:42 -0500 Subject: [Users] outlook.com SSL handshake failed In-Reply-To: <20140621062216.2c6986af@scorpio> References: <20140621062216.2c6986af@scorpio> Message-ID: On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 06:22:16 -0400 Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jun 2014 18:58:06 -0500, Tim Zakharov stated: > > > Occasionally (maybe once a day?) I see that while checking for email > > that Hotmail/Outlook.com (both use pop-mail.outlook.com) fail with: > > > > *** SSL handshake failed > > > > in the network logs. > > > > Is this related to the recent Hotmail issue that led to my mailing > > list settings to disable? > > Are you sure your settings are correct? I use the following: > > POP3 -- > "pop3.live.com" via port 995 with "Use SSL for POP3 Connection" > > SMTP -- > "smtp.live.com" via port 25 with "Use STARTTLS" to start SSL session" > > I am not experiencing any problems that I know of and I have two > accounts that I check. > Hmmm, thanks. When setting my accounts up, I went with the most current Microsoft documentation and did not even know pop3.live.com and smtp.live.com existed. I've been using pop-mail.outlook.com and smtp-mail.outlook.com. I know they work, I just get the SSL Handshake error every once in awhile. I'll give the live.com servers a shot. Here's the link to the docs I found: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/outlook/send-receive-from-app -- Regards, Tim Zakharov From himemsys36 at hotmail.com Sat Jun 21 14:00:56 2014 From: himemsys36 at hotmail.com (Tim Zakharov) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 07:00:56 -0500 Subject: [Users] outlook.com SSL handshake failed In-Reply-To: References: <20140621062216.2c6986af@scorpio> Message-ID: On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 06:49:42 -0500 Tim Zakharov wrote: > On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 06:22:16 -0400 > Jerry wrote: > > > On Fri, 20 Jun 2014 18:58:06 -0500, Tim Zakharov stated: > > > > > Occasionally (maybe once a day?) I see that while checking for > > > email that Hotmail/Outlook.com (both use pop-mail.outlook.com) > > > fail with: > > > > > > *** SSL handshake failed > > > > > > in the network logs. > > > > > > Is this related to the recent Hotmail issue that led to my mailing > > > list settings to disable? > > > > Are you sure your settings are correct? I use the following: > > > > POP3 -- > > "pop3.live.com" via port 995 with "Use SSL for POP3 Connection" > > > > SMTP -- > > "smtp.live.com" via port 25 with "Use STARTTLS" to start SSL > > session" > > > > I am not experiencing any problems that I know of and I have two > > accounts that I check. > > > > Hmmm, thanks. When setting my accounts up, I went with the most > current Microsoft documentation and did not even know > pop3.live.com and smtp.live.com existed. I've been using > pop-mail.outlook.com and smtp-mail.outlook.com. I know they work, I > just get the SSL Handshake error every once in awhile. I'll give the > live.com servers a shot. Here's the link to the docs I found: > http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/outlook/send-receive-from-app > Well, that was bizarre. I just changed my hotmail servers as you suggested and it downloaded over 50 duplicate emails (I'm guessing everything in the inbox on the server). To be clear, I have an outlook.com account and hotmail.com account. I left the outlook.com account with the outlook.com servers, but changed the hotmail account (the one I use for this mailing list) to live.com. I'd like to see if I still get any SSL Handshake errors on the outlook.com account. -- Regards, Tim Zakharov From jerry at seibercom.net Sat Jun 21 14:30:27 2014 From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 08:30:27 -0400 Subject: [Users] outlook.com SSL handshake failed In-Reply-To: References: <20140621062216.2c6986af@scorpio> Message-ID: <20140621083027.1354b462@scorpio> On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 07:00:56 -0500, Tim Zakharov stated: > Well, that was bizarre. I just changed my hotmail servers as you > suggested and it downloaded over 50 duplicate emails (I'm guessing > everything in the inbox on the server). > > To be clear, I have an outlook.com account and hotmail.com account. I > left the outlook.com account with the outlook.com servers, but changed > the hotmail account (the one I use for this mailing list) to live.com. > I'd like to see if I still get any SSL Handshake errors on the > outlook.com account. Check this URL out: http://www.outlook-apps.com/outlook-com-pop-settings/ -- Jerry From himemsys36 at hotmail.com Sat Jun 21 14:40:38 2014 From: himemsys36 at hotmail.com (Tim Zakharov) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 07:40:38 -0500 Subject: [Users] outlook.com SSL handshake failed In-Reply-To: <20140621083027.1354b462@scorpio> References: <20140621062216.2c6986af@scorpio> <20140621083027.1354b462@scorpio> Message-ID: On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 08:30:27 -0400 Jerry wrote: > On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 07:00:56 -0500, Tim Zakharov stated: > > > Well, that was bizarre. I just changed my hotmail servers as you > > suggested and it downloaded over 50 duplicate emails (I'm guessing > > everything in the inbox on the server). > > > > To be clear, I have an outlook.com account and hotmail.com > > account. I left the outlook.com account with the outlook.com > > servers, but changed the hotmail account (the one I use for this > > mailing list) to live.com. I'd like to see if I still get any SSL > > Handshake errors on the outlook.com account. > > Check this URL out: > > http://www.outlook-apps.com/outlook-com-pop-settings/ > Yep, saw that one. It seems that most of the articles written in 2014 talk about pop-mail.outlook.com, while 2013 and earlier talk about pop3.live.com. Depending on the site, you might get recommended one or the other, but both work. Not sure if the SSL Handshake Error is specific to the outlook.com servers, but I thought the devs here should be made aware of it in case it's something that can be adjusted on their end. This is a page that talks about outlook.com and mentions the "old" live.com servers: http://askleo.com/what_are_outlookcom_imap_pop3_and_smtp_settings/ Particularly, at the very bottom it says "Hotmail and Outlook.com are the same thing these days. Settings that used to work for Hotmail, based on Microsoft’s old Live.com servers, should continue to work. This article outlines the current settings documented by Microsoft." -- Regards, Tim Zakharov From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Jun 21 15:29:44 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 14:29:44 +0100 Subject: [Users] outlook.com SSL handshake failed In-Reply-To: References: <20140621062216.2c6986af@scorpio> <20140621083027.1354b462@scorpio> Message-ID: <20140621142944.1b9c3603@thewildbeast> This is really straying off-topic now, guys! -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Jun 21 16:54:35 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 14:54:35 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3158] Avatar plugin priority In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3158 --- Comment #3 from Ricardo Mones --- Don't take it bad but my initial idea for this is not to have it centralized at all. The core should not care about this priority since it's an arrangement among plugins of some kind. I don't like the idea of having code in core for this even if no avatar plugin is loaded, only the strictly required (which ideally should be nothing :) One idea for this is applying something similar to what is done with pgp plugins: one avatarcore plugin with the common code (something similar to the priority management you depicted in your patch) and the other avatar-related plugins would reuse it. Also some common interface would have to be defined: at least functions to query/set priority all avatar-related plugins should implement, so the avatarcore would invoke them for each of them appropriately. Maybe also some user-friendly identification function to help GUI. Had not much time to think about the details, but more or less that's the big picture right now. So if you want to invest time on this I think that's the way to go, more than adding more code to the core. Thanks in advance! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From edwardp at linuxmail.org Sat Jun 21 17:50:17 2014 From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 11:50:17 -0400 Subject: [Users] Claws 3.8.1 on Debian does not exit Message-ID: <20140621115017.4d3f5008@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Version 3.8.1 (version included with Debian Wheezy), does not exit most of them time when File/Exit is selected or the window tab in the taskbar is right-clicked and Close Window is selected. I had to run 'ps-e' in a terminal window and kill the job number, twice, before Claws closed. When I attempted to close Claws just now (the first attempt), there was hard drive activity upon File/Exit, but the window remained open and would not close/exit until I killed the job as described above. It does this quite often, unfortunately. I am running the 64-bit version of Debian Wheezy. From pf at pfortin.com Sat Jun 21 18:05:54 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 12:05:54 -0400 Subject: [Users] Claws 3.8.1 on Debian does not exit In-Reply-To: <20140621115017.4d3f5008@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <20140621115017.4d3f5008@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20140621120554.1d872dac@pfortin.com> On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 11:50:17 -0400 edwardp at linuxmail.org wrote: >Version 3.8.1 (version included with Debian Wheezy), does not exit most >of them time when File/Exit is selected or the window tab in the >taskbar is right-clicked and Close Window is selected. Are you not able to update to a more current version? 3.8.1 was unleashed 27th June 2012; then followed by 3.9.0 on 14th November 2012 We are now at 3.10.1 unleashed 9th June 2014 From rod_myers at fastmail.fm Sat Jun 21 18:13:18 2014 From: rod_myers at fastmail.fm (Rodney D. Myers) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 12:13:18 -0400 Subject: [Users] Claws 3.8.1 on Debian does not exit In-Reply-To: <20140621120554.1d872dac@pfortin.com> References: <20140621115017.4d3f5008@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140621120554.1d872dac@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20140621121318.7405eb8c@riverside> On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 12:05:54 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 11:50:17 -0400 edwardp at linuxmail.org wrote: > > >Version 3.8.1 (version included with Debian Wheezy), does not exit > >most of them time when File/Exit is selected or the window tab in the > >taskbar is right-clicked and Close Window is selected. > > Are you not able to update to a more current version? > > 3.8.1 was unleashed 27th June 2012; then followed by > 3.9.0 on 14th November 2012 > > We are now at 3.10.1 unleashed 9th June 2014 Not available on testing. "stuck" at 3.9.3 -- Rodney D. Myers They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.         Ben Franklin - 1759 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 238 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pf at pfortin.com Sat Jun 21 18:40:48 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 12:40:48 -0400 Subject: [Users] Claws 3.8.1 on Debian does not exit In-Reply-To: <20140621121318.7405eb8c@riverside> References: <20140621115017.4d3f5008@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140621120554.1d872dac@pfortin.com> <20140621121318.7405eb8c@riverside> Message-ID: <20140621124048.28d76df0@pfortin.com> On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 12:13:18 -0400 Rodney D. Myers wrote: >On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 12:05:54 -0400 >Pierre Fortin wrote: > >> On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 11:50:17 -0400 edwardp at linuxmail.org wrote: >> >> >Version 3.8.1 (version included with Debian Wheezy), does not exit >> >most of them time when File/Exit is selected or the window tab in the >> >taskbar is right-clicked and Close Window is selected. >> >> Are you not able to update to a more current version? >> >> 3.8.1 was unleashed 27th June 2012; then followed by >> 3.9.0 on 14th November 2012 >> >> We are now at 3.10.1 unleashed 9th June 2014 > >Not available on testing. "stuck" at 3.9.3 which was unleashed more recently on 14th December 2013 So... gotta ask: why still running 3.8.1? :) ;) Many of us compile our own... other than requiring -devel packages, it's pretty easy to do... From http://claws-mail.org/git.php?section=projects (+ my comments): >To download the latest Claws Mail Git source code, move to the directory >where you wish to download to and type the following commands: > CMSRC=/usr/local/src [ -d $CMSRC ] || mkdir $CMSRC cd $CMSRC >git clone http://git.claws-mail.org/readonly/claws.git > >Later, when you want to update your local repository, you'll just have to >go back to the claws directory, and type: > cd /usr/local/src/claws >git pull --all > >To build a Git download, you'll have to run ./autogen.sh before, or >instead of, the usual ./configure. make sudo make install HTH From edwardp at linuxmail.org Sat Jun 21 18:43:29 2014 From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 12:43:29 -0400 Subject: [Users] Claws 3.8.1 on Debian does not exit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140621124329.6890853a@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > Are you not able to update to a more current version? > 3.8.1 was unleashed 27th June 2012; then followed by > 3.9.0 on 14th November 2012 > We are now at 3.10.1 unleashed 9th June 2014 I'm sure there are others on the list who could chime in regarding Debian's policies regarding the updating of stable packages. It has been mentioned on the list that 3.10.1 is in wheezy-backports, but it would be great to simply install only claws-mail from backports, instead of the installer defaulting to installing /everything/ that is in backports. I've never installed anything from backports in the past. From mailinglists at gusnan.se Sat Jun 21 18:47:16 2014 From: mailinglists at gusnan.se (Andreas =?UTF-8?B?UsO2bm5xdWlzdA==?=) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 18:47:16 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws 3.8.1 on Debian does not exit In-Reply-To: <20140621115017.4d3f5008@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <20140621115017.4d3f5008@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20140621184716.2d21a7f8@debian-workstation.lan> On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 11:50:17 -0400, edwardp at linuxmail.org wrote: >Version 3.8.1 (version included with Debian Wheezy), does not exit most >of them time when File/Exit is selected or the window tab in the >taskbar is right-clicked and Close Window is selected. > >I had to run 'ps-e' in a terminal window and kill the job number, >twice, before Claws closed. > >When I attempted to close Claws just now (the first attempt), there was >hard drive activity upon File/Exit, but the window remained open and >would not close/exit until I killed the job as described above. > >It does this quite often, unfortunately. I am running the 64-bit >version of Debian Wheezy. > > Instead of building a new version yourself, try the backport - there you'll at least have version 3.9.3. (The versions backported must be available in testing before being backported, this is why 3.10.1 isn't backported yet - I will backport it as soon as it is available in testing). Instructions on how to install from backports available at http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ best regards /Andreas Rönnquist mailinglists at gusnan.se gusnan at gusnan.se From mir at miras.org Sat Jun 21 19:13:18 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 19:13:18 +0200 Subject: [Users] Claws 3.8.1 on Debian does not exit In-Reply-To: <20140621124329.6890853a@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <20140621124329.6890853a@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20140621191318.591d7c63@sleipner.datanom.net> On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 12:43:29 -0400 wrote: > It has been mentioned on the list that 3.10.1 is in wheezy-backports, > but it would be great to simply install only claws-mail from backports, > instead of the installer defaulting to installing /everything/ that is > in backports. I've never installed anything from backports in the past. > It is simply a matter of pinning packages from backports lower than packages from stable. Example: cat /etc/apt/preferences Package: * Pin: release a=wheezy-backports Pin-Priority: 200 Package: claws-mail Pin: release a=wheezy-backports Pin-Priority: 999 Run: apt-get update apt-get install claws-mail Above means that only package claws-mail and packages from wheezy-backports which claws-mail from wheezy-backports depends on will be fetched from wheezy-backports. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: SEMPER UBI SUB UBI!!!! [ Always wear underwater ] -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From edwardp at linuxmail.org Sat Jun 21 19:16:14 2014 From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 13:16:14 -0400 Subject: [Users] Claws 3.8.1 on Debian does not exit Message-ID: <20140621131614.2348f476@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> FWIW, I attempted to add wheezy-backports and in updating afterwards (apt-get update), I am getting a bunch of file not found errors from multiple Debian servers tried, so I've removed wheezy-backports. From edwardp at linuxmail.org Sat Jun 21 20:24:42 2014 From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 14:24:42 -0400 Subject: [Users] Claws 3.8.1 on Debian does not exit Message-ID: <20140621142442.64073e8f@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > Instead of building a new version yourself, try the backport - there > you'll at least have version 3.9.3. (The versions backported must be > available in testing before being backported, this is why 3.10.1 isn't > backported yet - I will backport it as soon as it is available in > testing). > Instructions on how to install from backports available at > http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ > best regards > /Andreas Rönnquist > mailinglists at gusnan.se > gusnan at gusnan.se Let me ask this... Firefox is installed in a /home sub-directory. I simply extracted the .tar.gz file into this directory, created a desktop shortcut and it works perfectly. Would the latest Claws file at SourceForge work the same way, when extracted to a different directory (and does it include all the plugins)?? From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Jun 21 20:43:56 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 18:43:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2981] claws-mail-3.9.3 compilation warnings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2981 --- Comment #6 from claws_mail_user --- I'm getting the similar bug from last 3.10.1 version: I: A function overflows or underflows an array access. This could be a real error, but occasionaly this condition is also misdetected due to loop unrolling or strange pointer handling. So this is warning only, please review. W: claws-mail arraysubscript sspm.c:406 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Jun 21 21:22:23 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 19:22:23 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3158] Avatar plugin priority In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3158 --- Comment #4 from Christian Hesse --- (In reply to comment #3) > Don't take it bad but my initial idea for this is not to have it centralized > at all. The core should not care about this priority since it's an > arrangement among plugins of some kind. I don't like the idea of having code > in core for this even if no avatar plugin is loaded, only the strictly > required (which ideally should be nothing :) Agreed, I am with you. ;) > One idea for this is applying something similar to what is done with pgp > plugins: one avatarcore plugin with the common code (something similar to > the priority management you depicted in your patch) and the other > avatar-related plugins would reuse it. Ok, but this requires X-/Face support got to a plugin as well, no? > Also some common interface would have to be defined: at least functions to > query/set priority all avatar-related plugins should implement, so the > avatarcore would invoke them for each of them appropriately. Maybe also > some user-friendly identification function to help GUI. > > Had not much time to think about the details, but more or less that's the > big picture right now. So if you want to invest time on this I think that's > the way to go, more than adding more code to the core. I will think about it. All of this sound reasonable so far I think. > Thanks in advance! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From zukeprime at gmail.com Sat Jun 21 23:57:55 2014 From: zukeprime at gmail.com (ZukePrime) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2014 05:57:55 +0800 Subject: [Users] Claws 3.8.1 on Debian does not exit In-Reply-To: <20140621115017.4d3f5008@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <20140621115017.4d3f5008@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 11:50 PM, wrote: > Version 3.8.1 (version included with Debian Wheezy), does not exit most > of them time when File/Exit is selected or the window tab in the > taskbar is right-clicked and Close Window is selected. I don't mean to hijack, but I want to add I'm having the same problem on Ubuntu 14.04 64 Bit, Kernel 3.13.0-24. Claws Mail 3.10.1. I'm also running this on a Crunchbang installation (using Testing), and claws-mail 3.9.3. Same issue. Read below, but I'm suspecting it may be related to importing claws-mail settings from another installation where I've got everything set up the way I like it (processing rules, filters, etc.) I ran claws out of the terminal to see what output is generated: ---------------------------------------------------- ZP at ZUKE-LT-01:~$ claws-mail ** (claws-mail:19818): WARNING **: [05:36:18] IMAP error on imap.gmail.com: stream error ** (claws-mail:19818): WARNING **: [05:36:18] IMAP4 connection broken ** (claws-mail:19818): WARNING **: [05:36:18] IMAP error on imap.gmail.com: stream error ** (claws-mail:19818): WARNING **: [05:36:18] IMAP4 connection broken ** (claws-mail:19818): WARNING **: [05:36:18] IMAP error on imap.gmail.com: stream error ** (claws-mail:19818): WARNING **: [05:36:18] IMAP4 connection broken (claws-mail:19818): GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 274 was not found when attempting to remove it (claws-mail:19818): GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 473 was not found when attempting to remove it (claws-mail:19818): GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 928 was not found when attempting to remove it XubuntuDevelopmentDiscussionXfcedevelopmentlist ZukePrime said: >- Perhaps important: I imported my claws-mail settings and MH MAIL >folder from another Ubuntu installation...perhaps a setting isn't >jiving with the current installation? The original computer was 32 >bit, this is 64 bit. Not sure if the OP did the same, but perhaps >worth a look. The PC is 64-bit with 64-bit (amd64) Debian Wheezy installed. Wheezy was upgraded from Squeeze (also 64-bit), when it was released. From geoff at hughes.net Sun Jun 22 03:29:01 2014 From: geoff at hughes.net (Geoffrey Leach) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 18:29:01 -0700 Subject: [Users] converting from maildir to MH Message-ID: <1403400541.1642.1@puget.mtranch.com> Is there a tool for this? From geoff at hughes.net Sun Jun 22 03:29:34 2014 From: geoff at hughes.net (Geoffrey Leach) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 18:29:34 -0700 Subject: [Users] Perl builtin Message-ID: <1403400574.1642.2@puget.mtranch.com> Can't find a .xs source for this. Is there a spec? From berndth at gmx.de Sun Jun 22 14:00:37 2014 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2014 14:00:37 +0200 Subject: [Users] Perl builtin In-Reply-To: <1403400574.1642.2@puget.mtranch.com> References: <1403400574.1642.2@puget.mtranch.com> Message-ID: <20140622140037.170ca923@wodan> On Sa, 21.06.2014 18:29, Geoffrey Leach wrote: >Can't find a .xs source for this. Is there a spec? If you're talking about the Perl plugin for Claws Mail, it's documented in the pod-file cm_perl.pod (in the source tree under src/plugins/perl/cm_perl.pod), and can be read with perldoc. Holger From brad at fineby.me.uk Sat Jun 21 21:42:04 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 20:42:04 +0100 Subject: [Users] Claws 3.8.1 on Debian does not exit In-Reply-To: <20140621142442.64073e8f@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <20140621142442.64073e8f@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20140621204204.6bee399f@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 14:24:42 -0400 wrote: Hello edwardp at linuxmail.org, >Would the latest Claws file at SourceForge work the same way, when No. There's a (sort of) clue in the name of the site that CM is hosted on - the .tar.gz archives are source code packages. You need to compile and install the source code yourself. It can be quite daunting to set your machine up to do source compiles, what with all the packages required. However, starting with something like "build-essentials" or whatever it's called in your distro of choice, will get you on the way. As the final part of the compilation & installation process the necessary binary (executable) files, icons, libraries, plugins and whatnot are copied to the required places. This is usually under /usr/local somewhere, which exists, for all intents and purposes for just that, so any software you write & compile doesn't (or at least shouldn't) interfere with system software. >extracted to a different directory (and does it include all the >plugins)?? Plug-ins are included, but only get built during the compile process if the required dependencies are met. You also have to consider whether you want IMAP, NNTP, IPv6, etc. etc. support compiled in. These will all increase the number of dependencies required for a successful build. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From edwardp at linuxmail.org Sun Jun 22 17:05:16 2014 From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2014 11:05:16 -0400 Subject: [Users] Claws 3.8.1 on Debian does not exit In-Reply-To: <20140621204204.6bee399f@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20140621142442.64073e8f@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140621204204.6bee399f@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140622110516.00007aef@linuxmail.org> On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 20:42:04 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 14:24:42 -0400 > wrote: > > Hello edwardp at linuxmail.org, > > >Would the latest Claws file at SourceForge work the same way, when > > No. There's a (sort of) clue in the name of the site that CM is > hosted on - the .tar.gz archives are source code packages. You need > to compile and install the source code yourself. It can be quite > daunting to set your machine up to do source compiles, what with all > the packages required. However, starting with something like > "build-essentials" or whatever it's called in your distro of choice, > will get you on the way. As the final part of the compilation & > installation process the necessary binary (executable) files, icons, > libraries, plugins and whatnot are copied to the required places. > This is usually under /usr/local somewhere, which exists, for all > intents and purposes for just that, so any software you write & > compile doesn't (or at least shouldn't) interfere with system > software. > > >extracted to a different directory (and does it include all the > >plugins)?? > > Plug-ins are included, but only get built during the compile process > if the required dependencies are met. > > You also have to consider whether you want IMAP, NNTP, IPv6, etc. etc. > support compiled in. These will all increase the number of > dependencies required for a successful build. > > On the plus side; ~/.claws-mail is ready for use. :-) OK, thanks for that explanation. What I think is happening, is that the connections to AOL's IMAP server, appear to be hanging. When I delete e-mails out of the Inbox, then immediately switch to Trash, the e-mails aren't appearing because the mail client is still trying to connect to the Trash folder. I've noticed this with other mail clients. Once the AOL accounts were deleted from Claws, it closes immediately each time. Ed From freebsd at grem.de Sun Jun 22 18:14:29 2014 From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2014 18:14:29 +0200 Subject: [Users] Read emails getting marked as unread In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140622181429.2425eb65@bsd64.grem.de> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 12:27:11 -0500 Tim Zakharov wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 07:41:05 -0500 > Tim Zakharov wrote: > > > This is weird. Just noticing this over the past few days and not > > sure what triggered it. I see a "new" email in one of my > > mailboxes, then notice the date is old. I just had four show up in > > my Claws mailing list folder, two dated 5/31/14 and two dated > > 6/7/14. I "Hide Read Messages" in this folder, so I'm guessing > > these emails were already retrieved, but somehow got marked from > > read to unread. Anyone else noticing this? > > > > No replies yet. This continues to happen occasionally. Here is a > screenshot showing a new claws mailing list email right next to the > old one that is identical to it. Any idea what is going on? > Same thing happened to me today as well, I've been going through a few hundred status emails on IMAP and I had to recheck at least 30% of them (it was always every mail I marked as read between automatic check for new mail runs). Never experienced this on 3.9.2, so this is somehow new (I'm on 3.10.1 now). What's interesting is, that this seems to be a local caching issue - the mails are actually marked as read on IMAP. -- Michael Gmelin From nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 22 19:31:50 2014 From: nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com (N. W.) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2014 18:31:50 +0100 Subject: [Users] Yahoo IMAP folder issues in Claws Mail? Message-ID: <1403458310.17758.YahooMailBasic@web171805.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Hello, when using the following settings: https://help.yahoo.com/kb/imap-server-settings-sln4075.html in Claws Mail, Claws Mail does show two inbox folders, two draft folders (well, one Draft folder [without the "s" at the end] and one Drafts folder [with the "s" at the end]). And so on... It does not seem to set up the folders correctly. The folder structure seems to be pretty messed up by default. Is there any setting that could fix this? Or is it a bug inside Claws Mail that would have to be fixed by the Claws Mail developers? By the way, Thunderbird for example does not seem to have this issue. Regards From himemsys36 at hotmail.com Sun Jun 22 20:25:01 2014 From: himemsys36 at hotmail.com (Tim Zakharov) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2014 13:25:01 -0500 Subject: [Users] Read emails getting marked as unread In-Reply-To: <20140622181429.2425eb65@bsd64.grem.de> References: <20140622181429.2425eb65@bsd64.grem.de> Message-ID: On Sun, 22 Jun 2014 18:14:29 +0200 Michael Gmelin wrote: > > Same thing happened to me today as well, I've been going through a few > hundred status emails on IMAP and I had to recheck at least 30% of > them (it was always every mail I marked as read between automatic > check for new mail runs). > > Never experienced this on 3.9.2, so this is somehow new (I'm on 3.10.1 > now). > > What's interesting is, that this seems to be a local caching issue - > the mails are actually marked as read on IMAP. > Hey! I thought I was the only one. ;) I don't get a lot of mail traffic in Claws (even though I've got 6 accounts set up, they are all low-traffic), but I do notice it especially in my Claws Mailing List folder. A quick clean-up is Tools->Delete Duplicated Messages. Thanks for confirming the issue. I also am on 3.10.1 and don't recall it happening in earlier versions. -- Regards, Tim Zakharov From himemsys36 at hotmail.com Sun Jun 22 20:34:13 2014 From: himemsys36 at hotmail.com (Tim Zakharov) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2014 13:34:13 -0500 Subject: [Users] outlook.com SSL handshake failed In-Reply-To: <20140621142944.1b9c3603@thewildbeast> References: <20140621062216.2c6986af@scorpio> <20140621083027.1354b462@scorpio> <20140621142944.1b9c3603@thewildbeast> Message-ID: On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 14:29:44 +0100 Paul wrote: > This is really straying off-topic now, guys! > Sorry, I thought we were perfectly on topic. I've been running my Hotmail account on pop3.live.com for a couple of days now and just noticed it happen again (for the first time with live.com servers): * Account 'Hotmail': Connecting to POP3 server: pop3.live.com:995... *** SSL handshake failed I checked mail immediately after this error, and it worked fine. It's pretty intermittent. -- Regards, Tim Zakharov From CAE at eslrahc.com Sun Jun 22 21:11:54 2014 From: CAE at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2014 15:11:54 -0400 Subject: [Users] Autogen.sh patch Message-ID: <20140622151154.5db52826@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> In the event that it was missed when I originally posted I an resubmitting my autogen.sh-NOCONFIGURE.patch that allows support for the usage of NOCONFIGURE. 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Is that a known issue with 3.8.1? SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance From pf at pfortin.com Mon Jun 23 03:09:03 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2014 21:09:03 -0400 Subject: [Users] Claws 3.8.1 on Debian does not exit In-Reply-To: <20140622205620.4c3d8535@mydesk> References: <20140621115017.4d3f5008@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140621120554.1d872dac@pfortin.com> <20140622205620.4c3d8535@mydesk> Message-ID: <20140622210903.00d2794e@pfortin.com> On Sun, 22 Jun 2014 20:56:20 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: >On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 12:05:54 -0400 >Pierre Fortin wrote: > >> On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 11:50:17 -0400 edwardp at linuxmail.org wrote: >> >> >Version 3.8.1 (version included with Debian Wheezy), does not exit >> >most of them time when File/Exit is selected or the window tab in the >> >taskbar is right-clicked and Close Window is selected. >> >> Are you not able to update to a more current version? >> >> 3.8.1 was unleashed 27th June 2012; then followed by >> 3.9.0 on 14th November 2012 >> >> We are now at 3.10.1 unleashed 9th June 2014 > >Do you have reason to believe that will fix the problem? Is that a >known issue with 3.8.1? > >SteveT Nope... but since I was the first to respond, my intent was to try to get OP to consider a more current version... what's the point of wasting the precious resources of our great devs to debug something that old? Pierre From ricardo at mones.org Mon Jun 23 08:58:02 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 08:58:02 +0200 Subject: [Users] GCompletion In-Reply-To: <20140620123642.6db5f3b2@colin.i-run.lau> References: <20140620110107.1d76f857@leda.localdomain> <20140620123642.6db5f3b2@colin.i-run.lau> Message-ID: <20140623065802.GV19201@trasgu> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 12:36:42PM +0200, Colin Leroy wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jun 2014 11:01:07 +0200, Christian Hesse > wrote: > > Hi, > > > GCompletion has been deprecated in glib 2.26, which is quite old. Is > > there anything planned to replace GCompletion? > > Not really. Last time I looked, the successor API was very different, > and I just dropped it. If you feel like tackling this problem, you'd be > very welcome! :) Anyway seems it's going to stay for a while: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2010-June/msg00191.html regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ Never send a human to do a machine's job. Agent Smith -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From ricardo at mones.org Mon Jun 23 09:20:22 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 09:20:22 +0200 Subject: [Users] converting from maildir to MH In-Reply-To: <1403400541.1642.1@puget.mtranch.com> References: <1403400541.1642.1@puget.mtranch.com> Message-ID: <20140623072022.GY19201@trasgu> On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 06:29:01PM -0700, Geoffrey Leach wrote: > Is there a tool for this? Third result when googling the subject: http://www.theory.bham.ac.uk/staff/schofield/linux/maildir2mh Where “sylpheed” is written you may probably read “claws-mail” ;) -- Ricardo Mones ~ You have the capacity to learn from mistakes. You'll learn a lot today. /usr/games/fortune -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 23 12:40:17 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:40:17 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3218] New: Auto wrapping does not work with Chinese characters. Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3218 Bug ID: 3218 Summary: Auto wrapping does not work with Chinese characters. Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.9.3 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Compose Window Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: bugzilla at coletteral.net Chinese does not use spaces in their sentences, so auto wrapping does not work at all. This gets really annoying when writing longer emails without being able to automatically stick to a readable format (auto wrap). The same goes for Japanese, and probably many other languages. I am not sure how, but I suppose it should be possible and not too hard to detect whether one is dealing with alphabet or characters and act accordingly. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 23 19:55:01 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:55:01 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3219] New: PGP/MIME fails to build MIME compliant messages. Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3219 Bug ID: 3219 Summary: PGP/MIME fails to build MIME compliant messages. Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: major Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/Privacy Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: a6190075 at drdrb.net It has been reported to me that messages signed with claws-mail are reported to have bad signatures by other clients (such as Mutt or Thunderbird). En example of a message produced by claws-mail can be found here: http://richard-falken.com/files/374 I have been told by many people this source is not valid. Encrypted messages are also built in a not valid manner. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 23 19:59:11 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:59:11 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3219] PGP/MIME fails to build MIME compliant messages. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3219 --- Comment #1 from Colin Leroy --- As far as we know, we strictly adhere to GPG and MIME protocols. It would be nice that the many people could point out what it wrong in the pointed email in technical terms. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jun 23 19:59:39 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:59:39 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3219] PGP/MIME fails to build MIME compliant messages. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3219 Colin Leroy changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME --- Comment #2 from Colin Leroy --- (Please reopen with technical information) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From matthew.d.phelan at gmail.com Tue Jun 24 18:02:08 2014 From: matthew.d.phelan at gmail.com (matthew phelan) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:02:08 -0400 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail, Gmail and PGP Message-ID: Hi, folks! I am sorry to be a bother, but I have a (hopefully) small issue with my Claws Mail in TAILS and the gnuPG plugins. Currently, I have Claws set up with a Gmail account and encryption keys generated. Most of these things appear to be working smoothly. However, when I use Claws to "send myself" and encrypted email (i.e. From: myself at gmail.com To: myself at gmail.com), I get the following error message. "Some errors occurred while sending queued messages: Couldn't determine sending informations. Maybe the email hasn't been generated by Claws Mail." In addition to the error message, something else bizarre happens: my Claws Mail shows two, quasi-duplicate "sent messages," an encrypted version and an unencrypted version of the same message I wanted encrypted. Worse still, when I log in to this Gmail account via a browser, I see the same thing: two nearly identical emails in the sent folder, one encrypted and one unencrypted. Another strange feature of this issue is that Claws Mail does not show these emails in the Inbox folder: It appears in the Important Mail folder and the Sent mail folder, and that's it. It's worth noting that I did follow this tutorial to the letter: http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php?title=Using_Claws_with_Gmail Obviously the whole point of me wanting to use Tails, Claws Mail and gnuPG is "end-to-end" encryption --- which obviously will not be the case if unencrypted copies of these emails are just sitting on a Google server somewhere. Is there something I have neglected to do while setting up my gmail account with Claws that has created this issue? Is anyone familiar with it? Best Regards, Matthew -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is anyone familiar with it? > In account settings under privacy do you have checked 'Encrypt send messages with my own key' See screenshot. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. -- Eric Hoffer -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Account preferences.png Type: image/png Size: 99556 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Tue Jun 24 19:06:40 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 18:06:40 +0100 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail, Gmail and PGP In-Reply-To: <20140624184231.031a22e6@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20140624184231.031a22e6@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20140624180640.00005650@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 18:42:31 +0200 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:02:08 -0400 > matthew phelan wrote: > > > > > Is there something I have neglected to do while setting up my gmail > > account with Claws that has created this issue? Is anyone familiar > > with it? > > > In account settings under privacy do you have checked 'Encrypt send > messages with my own key' See screenshot. It could also be something to do with the ~/gnupg/gpg.conf file, if that has default-recipient-self set then the same effect will occur but it will be harder to spot it. -- Brian Morrison From nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 24 19:36:29 2014 From: nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com (N. W.) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 18:36:29 +0100 Subject: [Users] Yahoo IMAP folder issues in Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <1403458310.17758.YahooMailBasic@web171805.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1403631389.32898.YahooMailBasic@web171801.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Hello, can anyone help with this? Regards -------------------------------------------- N. W. wrote: Hello, when using the following settings: https://help.yahoo.com/kb/imap-server-settings-sln4075.html in Claws Mail, Claws Mail does show two inbox folders, two draft folders (well, one Draft folder [without the "s" at the end] and one Drafts folder [with the "s" at the end]). And so on... It does not seem to set up the folders correctly. The folder structure seems to be pretty messed up by default. Is there any setting that could fix this? Or is it a bug inside Claws Mail that would have to be fixed by the Claws Mail developers? By the way, Thunderbird for example does not seem to have this issue. Regards From matthew.d.phelan at gmail.com Tue Jun 24 20:02:08 2014 From: matthew.d.phelan at gmail.com (matthew phelan) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 14:02:08 -0400 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail, Gmail and PGP In-Reply-To: <20140624180640.00005650@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> References: <20140624184231.031a22e6@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140624180640.00005650@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: Thanks guys, Brian and Michael. I'll report back once I am able to try this out later in the day today. Sincerely, Thank You. These sound like the solution, frankly. Best, Matthew On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Brian Morrison wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 18:42:31 +0200 > Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > > On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:02:08 -0400 > > matthew phelan wrote: > > > > > > > > Is there something I have neglected to do while setting up my gmail > > > account with Claws that has created this issue? Is anyone familiar > > > with it? > > > > > In account settings under privacy do you have checked 'Encrypt send > > messages with my own key' See screenshot. > > It could also be something to do with the ~/gnupg/gpg.conf file, if that > has > > default-recipient-self > > set then the same effect will occur but it will be harder to spot it. > > > -- > > Brian Morrison > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matthew.d.phelan at gmail.com Wed Jun 25 05:10:51 2014 From: matthew.d.phelan at gmail.com (matthew phelan) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 23:10:51 -0400 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail, Gmail and PGP In-Reply-To: References: <20140624184231.031a22e6@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140624180640.00005650@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: So, the update: These things helped keep this unencrypted duplicate out of the "Sent Folder" within Claws Mail, but it still exists in Gmail via a browser. It also still exists in this folder labelled "Important" in both Claws Mail and Gmail (via the browser). I did some of my own digging and stumbled on this: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2661 which gave me one or two other avenues to pursue, none of which solved this problem either. It's also probably worth noting that I followed this tutorial when setting up Claws Mail: http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php?title=Using_Claws_with_Gmail Is it possible that this is only happening because I am sending the message to myself, or something along those lines? Is it possible that imap.gmail.com and the "Queue Folder" are interacting before the message is encrypted --- and, if so, why? And: How can I stop it? Thanks for this. Best, Matthew On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 2:02 PM, matthew phelan wrote: > Thanks guys, Brian and Michael. I'll report back once I am able to try > this out later in the day today. > > Sincerely, Thank You. These sound like the solution, frankly. > > Best, > Matthew > > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Brian Morrison wrote: > >> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 18:42:31 +0200 >> Michael Rasmussen wrote: >> >> > On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:02:08 -0400 >> > matthew phelan wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > Is there something I have neglected to do while setting up my gmail >> > > account with Claws that has created this issue? Is anyone familiar >> > > with it? >> > > >> > In account settings under privacy do you have checked 'Encrypt send >> > messages with my own key' See screenshot. >> >> It could also be something to do with the ~/gnupg/gpg.conf file, if that >> has >> >> default-recipient-self >> >> set then the same effect will occur but it will be harder to spot it. >> >> >> -- >> >> Brian Morrison >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> Users at lists.claws-mail.org >> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matthew.d.phelan at gmail.com Wed Jun 25 07:40:24 2014 From: matthew.d.phelan at gmail.com (matthew phelan) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 01:40:24 -0400 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail, Gmail and PGP In-Reply-To: References: <20140624184231.031a22e6@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140624180640.00005650@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: FIXED. This was SO Embarrassing. The remaining part of the solution was just setting up a local #mh mailbox and setting it as the location of the queue and the draft folders. Everything is grand now. Thanks for your help as well. Best, Matthew On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 11:10 PM, matthew phelan wrote: > So, the update: > > These things helped keep this unencrypted duplicate out of the "Sent > Folder" within Claws Mail, but it still exists in Gmail via a browser. It > also still exists in this folder labelled "Important" in both Claws Mail > and Gmail (via the browser). I did some of my own digging and stumbled on > this: > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2661 > which gave me one or two other avenues to pursue, none of which solved this > problem either. > > It's also probably worth noting that I followed this tutorial when setting > up Claws Mail: > http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php?title=Using_Claws_with_Gmail > > Is it possible that this is only happening because I am sending the > message to myself, or something along those lines? > > Is it possible that imap.gmail.com and the "Queue Folder" are interacting > before the message is encrypted --- and, if so, why? And: How can I stop it? > > Thanks for this. > > Best, > Matthew > > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 2:02 PM, matthew phelan < > matthew.d.phelan at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks guys, Brian and Michael. I'll report back once I am able to try >> this out later in the day today. >> >> Sincerely, Thank You. These sound like the solution, frankly. >> >> Best, >> Matthew >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Brian Morrison >> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 18:42:31 +0200 >>> Michael Rasmussen wrote: >>> >>> > On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:02:08 -0400 >>> > matthew phelan wrote: >>> > >>> > > >>> > > Is there something I have neglected to do while setting up my gmail >>> > > account with Claws that has created this issue? Is anyone familiar >>> > > with it? >>> > > >>> > In account settings under privacy do you have checked 'Encrypt send >>> > messages with my own key' See screenshot. >>> >>> It could also be something to do with the ~/gnupg/gpg.conf file, if that >>> has >>> >>> default-recipient-self >>> >>> set then the same effect will occur but it will be harder to spot it. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Brian Morrison >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Users mailing list >>> Users at lists.claws-mail.org >>> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users >>> >> >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jun 25 11:23:31 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 09:23:31 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3220] New: UTF-8 chars encoded in From: header Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3220 Bug ID: 3220 Summary: UTF-8 chars encoded in From: header Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.9.3 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: trivial Priority: P3 Component: SMTP Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: chema at rinzewind.org Created attachment 1412 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1412&action=edit Gmail not displaying text outside the UTF-8 block My name is José María Mateos. That name is encoded in the From: header of mails sent using Claws-mail as: From: =?UTF-8?B?Sm9zw6kgTWFyw61h?= Mateos My surname is not included in the UTF-8 block. Gmail displays these e-mails as shown on the attached screenshot: the surname is missing. If I change my name to Jose María Mateos (just the middle word containing UTF-8 chars), it works fine. It also works fine if I enclose my name (written corretly) in quotes. I'm filling this bug with claws-mail because I don't know if this is the standard way of encoding headers or if the whole name should be placed inside the UTF-8 block. If this is not a bug, I'll file it with the Google people. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jun 25 11:40:53 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 09:40:53 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3220] UTF-8 chars encoded in From: header In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3220 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Paul --- It's a gmail bug. See RFC 2047. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From clifflaine at europe.com Wed Jun 25 13:57:07 2014 From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 12:57:07 +0100 Subject: [Users] Password before opening CM? Message-ID: <20140625125707.091c399a@violet-MXC061> Hello all Is it possible to require a password before the user can open CM? Thanks Cliff From ricardo at mones.org Wed Jun 25 14:14:21 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 14:14:21 +0200 Subject: [Users] Password before opening CM? In-Reply-To: <20140625125707.091c399a@violet-MXC061> References: <20140625125707.091c399a@violet-MXC061> Message-ID: <20140625121421.GE19201@trasgu> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 12:57:07PM +0100, Cliff Laine wrote: > Hello all > > Is it possible to require a password before the user can open CM? Yes, disable automatic logon. -- Ricardo Mones ~ Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it. Richard Feynman -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jun 25 14:14:22 2014 From: ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk (Kevin Chadwick) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 13:14:22 +0100 Subject: [Users] Password before opening CM? In-Reply-To: <20140625125707.091c399a@violet-MXC061> References: <20140625125707.091c399a@violet-MXC061> Message-ID: <959187.8196.bm@smtp132.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> previously on this list Cliff Laine contributed: > Hello all > > Is it possible to require a password before the user can open CM? > > Thanks > > Cliff Of course. It is called login or chmod 750 /usr/local/bin/claws-mail chgrp run-claws /usr/local/bin/claws-mail then see man sudoers (examples section) or what you probably actually want is to mount the encrypted claws data folder upon usb insert? -- _______________________________________________________________________ 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface' (Doug McIlroy) In Other Words - Don't design like polkit or systemd _______________________________________________________________________ I have no idea why RTFM is used so aggressively on LINUX mailing lists because whilst 'apropos' is traditionally the most powerful command on Unix-like systems it's 'modern' replacement 'apropos' on Linux is a tool to help psychopaths learn to control their anger. (Kevin Chadwick) _______________________________________________________________________ From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jun 25 14:40:18 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 13:40:18 +0100 Subject: [Users] Yahoo IMAP folder issues in Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <1403458310.17758.YahooMailBasic@web171805.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1403458310.17758.YahooMailBasic@web171805.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140625134018.7199d8aa@thewildbeast> On Sun, 22 Jun 2014 18:31:50 +0100 "N. W." wrote: > when using the following settings: > > https://help.yahoo.com/kb/imap-server-settings-sln4075.html > > in Claws Mail, Claws Mail does show two inbox folders, two draft > folders (well, one Draft folder [without the "s" at the end] and > one Drafts folder [with the "s" at the end]). > > And so on... > > It does not seem to set up the folders correctly. The folder > structure seems to be pretty messed up by default. > > Is there any setting that could fix this? A list of settings doesn't explain what you are seeing, and I don't have a yahoo account so I can only guess at your problem. A mailbox in Claws, for example, can have only one Drafts folder. The Drafts folder has a special icon. Probably what you want to do is use the folder properties to set the 'Folder type' that you require. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From clifflaine at europe.com Wed Jun 25 15:01:53 2014 From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 14:01:53 +0100 Subject: [Users] Password before opening CM? In-Reply-To: <20140625121421.GE19201@trasgu> References: <20140625125707.091c399a@violet-MXC061> <20140625121421.GE19201@trasgu> Message-ID: <20140625140153.1d9273c1@violet-MXC061> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 14:14:21 +0200 Ricardo Mones wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 12:57:07PM +0100, Cliff Laine wrote: > > Hello all > > > > Is it possible to require a password before the user can open CM? > > Yes, disable automatic logon. I beg your pardon but I can't see where to do that. It's not under Preferences, nor Account preferences. Thanks as well Kevin. If possible I'd rather not fiddle about with man sudoers. I would like to set a difficult password before anyone gets in. Cliff From colin at colino.net Wed Jun 25 15:13:34 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 15:13:34 +0200 Subject: [Users] Password before opening CM? In-Reply-To: <20140625140153.1d9273c1@violet-MXC061> References: <20140625125707.091c399a@violet-MXC061> <20140625121421.GE19201@trasgu> <20140625140153.1d9273c1@violet-MXC061> Message-ID: <20140625151334.1c4ad80b@colin.i-run.lau> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 14:01:53 +0100, Cliff Laine wrote: Hi, > > > Is it possible to require a password before the user can open > > > CM? > > > > Yes, disable automatic logon. > > I beg your pardon but I can't see where to do that. This is system-wide :) -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Ron. -- One tequila, Two tequila, Three tequila, Floor.... -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From colin at colino.net Wed Jun 25 15:55:54 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 15:55:54 +0200 Subject: [Users] Password before opening CM? In-Reply-To: <20140625092324.30c88968@ron.cerrocora.org> References: <20140625125707.091c399a@violet-MXC061> <20140625121421.GE19201@trasgu> <20140625140153.1d9273c1@violet-MXC061> <20140625151334.1c4ad80b@colin.i-run.lau> <20140625092324.30c88968@ron.cerrocora.org> Message-ID: <20140625155554.6a20aa13@colin.i-run.lau> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 09:23:24 -0400, "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" wrote: > > > I beg your pardon but I can't see where to do that. > > > This is system-wide :) > > I suspect he wants CM alone to be password-protected, so it cannot be > accessed when his session is active... Well, in this case the active but abandonned session should be locked. Unix provides us with great tools to enhance security, we have no need to reinvent wheels and protect launch of arbitrary software via password like some software did on Windows 95. -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ricardo at mones.org Wed Jun 25 15:58:50 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 15:58:50 +0200 Subject: [Users] Password before opening CM? In-Reply-To: <20140625092324.30c88968@ron.cerrocora.org> References: <20140625125707.091c399a@violet-MXC061> <20140625121421.GE19201@trasgu> <20140625140153.1d9273c1@violet-MXC061> <20140625151334.1c4ad80b@colin.i-run.lau> <20140625092324.30c88968@ron.cerrocora.org> Message-ID: <20140625135850.GF19201@trasgu> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 09:23:24AM -0400, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 15:13:34 +0200 > Colin Leroy wrote: > > > > I beg your pardon but I can't see where to do that. > > > This is system-wide :) > > I suspect he wants CM alone to be password-protected, so it cannot be accessed when his session is active... I guessed so, but if you don't protect the filesystem this would be as efective as chalking an inverted pentacle around your seat. -- Ricardo Mones ~ Never send a human to do a machine's job. Agent Smith -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jun 25 15:59:08 2014 From: ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk (Kevin Chadwick) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 14:59:08 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bulk] Re: Password before opening CM? In-Reply-To: <20140625140153.1d9273c1@violet-MXC061> References: <20140625125707.091c399a@violet-MXC061> <20140625121421.GE19201@trasgu> <20140625140153.1d9273c1@violet-MXC061> Message-ID: <921971.48199.bm@smtp119.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> previously on this list Cliff Laine contributed: > > Yes, disable automatic logon. > > I beg your pardon but I can't see where to do that. It's not under > Preferences, nor Account preferences. Depends on your system. If it's ubuntu it would likely be in /etc/lightdm.conf. See which display manager is running (gdm,kdm,xdm) and look for an appropriate config file or remove the display manager and use startx after logging into the console. You may find certain things break in the latter case often without any need for breakage at all and personally I see that as a bug and flaky programming in many cases but others call it 'modern' ;-). -- _______________________________________________________________________ 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface' (Doug McIlroy) In Other Words - Don't design like polkit or systemd _______________________________________________________________________ From ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jun 25 16:06:21 2014 From: ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk (Kevin Chadwick) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 15:06:21 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bulk] Re: Password before opening CM? References: <20140625125707.091c399a@violet-MXC061> <20140625121421.GE19201@trasgu> <20140625140153.1d9273c1@violet-MXC061> Message-ID: <707236.66632.bm@smtp106.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> previously on this list Kevin Chadwick contributed: > > > > I beg your pardon but I can't see where to do that. It's not under > > Preferences, nor Account preferences. > > Depends on your system. If it's ubuntu it would likely be > in /etc/lightdm.conf Perhaps you should say what threat you are trying to prevent, if it is a physical attack then start training and keep your laptop on you at all times. All other measures can be defeated especially alone though you can create work for an attacker, bios, hdd passwords, disk encryption thereby removing less sophisticated and patient attackers. -- _______________________________________________________________________ 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface' (Doug McIlroy) In Other Words - Don't design like polkit or systemd _______________________________________________________________________ From colin at colino.net Wed Jun 25 16:14:06 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 16:14:06 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bulk] Re: Password before opening CM? In-Reply-To: <921971.48199.bm@smtp119.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <20140625125707.091c399a@violet-MXC061> <20140625121421.GE19201@trasgu> <20140625140153.1d9273c1@violet-MXC061> <921971.48199.bm@smtp119.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140625161406.05fe656d@colin.i-run.lau> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 14:59:08 +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > Depends on your system. If it's ubuntu it would likely be > in /etc/lightdm.conf. It can often be configured from the "Users" System settings nowadays. -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Linux has no cryptic impossible to configure registry yet, though xml and json and binary is rearing it's ugly head more and more without thought for all use cases (systemd logging and append only, access from machines without the binary reading tools or wanting to use the many text manipulating tools etc.). Personally I disable gui elements running as root with synaptic-pkexec and polkit in general being perfect examples of devs being clueless about security best practice. These things are perfectly do-able in an easily controlled and secure manner but it simply doesn't happen. I guess the people who can often prefer the console anyway or haven't found the time to sort it. p.s. Recently fought with upstream to disable polkit on my tvs as polkitd now ignores roots wishes and corrects permissions so It's now easiest to swap a nail for a sledgehammer with /bin/mv to avoid dumb depends. -- _______________________________________________________________________ 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface' (Doug McIlroy) In Other Words - Don't design like polkit or systemd _______________________________________________________________________ From nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 25 17:13:49 2014 From: nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com (N. W.) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 16:13:49 +0100 Subject: [Users] Yahoo IMAP folder issues in Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <20140625134018.7199d8aa@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <1403709229.72331.YahooMailBasic@web171803.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 13:40:18 +0100 Paul wrote: > On Sun, 22 Jun 2014 18:31:50 +0100 > "N. W." wrote: > > > when using the following settings: > > > > https://help.yahoo.com/kb/imap-server-settings-sln4075.html > > > > in Claws Mail, Claws Mail does show two inbox folders, two draft > > folders (well, one Draft folder [without the "s" at the end] and > > one Drafts folder [with the "s" at the end]). > > > > And so on... > > > > It does not seem to set up the folders correctly. The folder > > structure seems to be pretty messed up by default. > > > > Is there any setting that could fix this? > > A list of settings doesn't explain what you are seeing, and I don't > have a yahoo account so I can only guess at your problem. > > A mailbox in Claws, for example, can have only one Drafts folder. The > Drafts folder has a special icon. > > Probably what you want to do is use the folder properties to set the > 'Folder type' that you require. > > with regards > > Paul > > Hello, > Paul wrote: > > I don't have a yahoo account so I can only guess at your problem. Maybe another Claws Mail developer does have an account? > Paul wrote: > > A list of settings doesn't explain what you are seeing, [...] so I > can only guess at your problem. Okay, I took a more detailed look at this. There is one "Draft" (without "s" at the end) folder on the server, which can not be deleted, Claws Mail says "Error - Can't remove the folder 'Draft'" when you want to delete it. Therefore this seems to be the "true" drafts folder (I guess). The Yahoo web interface also seems to suggest that (drafts are being put into "Draft"). However, Claws Mail creates an additional "Drafts" (with "s" at the end) folder on it's own by default and makes that the drafts folder type . Making "Draft" the drafts folder type and then deleting "Drafts" does work. But it would be nice if Claws Mail would not create an additional "Drafts" folder but instead would use "Draft" as the srafts folder type. There's also a bigger issue: As already mentioned, there are two inbox folders present. One is called "INBOX" (all capital letters) and is made the inbox folder type by default. The other one is called "Inbox" (first letter capital). But none of those can be deleted. Claws Mail always says "Error - Can't remove the folder 'INBOX'" and "Error - Can't remove the folder 'Inbox'" when trying to delete one of them. In addition to that, both "INBOX" and "Inbox" do both have the same contents. They are basically identical. But, as already mentioned, you can't delete one of them. Is that a bug in Claws Mail or at least something that could be fixed in Claws Mail specifically for Yahoo IMAP accounts? PS: By the way, there is only one inbox in the Yahoo web interface. Regards From colin at colino.net Wed Jun 25 17:22:47 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:22:47 +0200 Subject: [Users] Yahoo IMAP folder issues in Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <1403709229.72331.YahooMailBasic@web171803.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <20140625134018.7199d8aa@thewildbeast> <1403709229.72331.YahooMailBasic@web171803.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140625172247.3bd9c08c@colin.i-run.lau> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 16:13:49 +0100, "N. W." wrote: > In addition to that, both "INBOX" and "Inbox" do both have the same > contents. They are basically identical. But, as already mentioned, you > can't delete one of them. > > Is that a bug in Claws Mail or at least something that could be fixed > in Claws Mail specifically for Yahoo IMAP accounts? > > PS: By the way, there is only one inbox in the Yahoo web interface. This is rather strange. Maybe you can delete the one which isn't of type 'inbox', while Claws-mail isn't running, directly from ~/.claws-mail/folderlist.xml -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Changing type to normal folder and you should be able to delete it. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: Advertisements contain the only truths to be relied on in a newspaper. -- Thomas Jefferson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 25 18:01:54 2014 From: nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com (N. W.) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:01:54 +0100 Subject: [Users] Yahoo IMAP folder issues in Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <20140625173423.78b151e6@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <1403712114.44226.YahooMailBasic@web171803.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> > Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > Or you could change type on the fake inbox folder while claws is > running. Changing type to normal folder and you should be able to > delete it. No, I can't. And I already mentioned that previously. Claws Mail says "Error - Can't remove the folder 'INBOX'" and "Error - Can't remove the folder 'Inbox'" when trying to delete one of them (yes, even when having them set to folder type "Normal"). > Colin Leroy wrote: > > This is rather strange. Maybe you can delete the one which isn't of > type 'inbox', while Claws-mail isn't running, directly from > ~/.claws-mail/folderlist.xml I just tried that. Removing it from folderlist.xml indeed makes it disappear. But "Rebuild folder tree" makes it come back ;o. From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Wed Jun 25 19:19:56 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 18:19:56 +0100 Subject: [Users] Password before opening CM? In-Reply-To: <20140625135850.GF19201@trasgu> References: <20140625125707.091c399a@violet-MXC061> <20140625121421.GE19201@trasgu> <20140625140153.1d9273c1@violet-MXC061> <20140625151334.1c4ad80b@colin.i-run.lau> <20140625092324.30c88968@ron.cerrocora.org> <20140625135850.GF19201@trasgu> Message-ID: <20140625181956.000003e5@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 15:58:50 +0200 Ricardo Mones wrote: > I guessed so, but if you don't protect the filesystem this would be > as efective as chalking an inverted pentacle around your seat. Damn! Back to the drawing board... -- Brian Morrison From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 26 15:22:27 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 13:22:27 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3221] New: IMAP: Claws Mail has issues with Yahoo IMAP server/folders Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3221 Bug ID: 3221 Summary: IMAP: Claws Mail has issues with Yahoo IMAP server/folders Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: other Hardware: All OS: All Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Folders/IMAP Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com Hello, as already mentioned on the mailing list: http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2014-June/010155.html Claws Mail seems to have issues with Yahoo IMAP accounts. I have tested it with Sylpheed and Trojitá in the meantime and it works just fine in Sylpheed and Trojitá. It's just Claws Mail which has the issues. So I'd say this can be considered a bug in Claws Mail. The IMAP server mentioned over there: https://help.yahoo.com/kb/imap-server-settings-sln4075.html seems to have the following folders by default: Inbox = inbox folder, called "Inbox" in the english Yahoo web interface Sent = sent folder, called "Sent" in the english Yahoo web interface Draft = drafts folder, called "Draft" in the english Yahoo web interface Trash = trash folder, called "Trash" in the english Yahoo web interface Bulk Mail = spam folder, called "Spam" in the english Yahoo web interface Y! Conversations = Yahoo messenger conversations folder, does not show up as an email folder in the Yahoo web interface When using Claws Mail, the drafts folder "Draft" is not recognized as being the drafts folder and Claws Mail does create an additional "Drafts" draft type folder instead. Also, Claws Mail does show two inbox folders. One is called "INBOX" (all capital letters) and one is called "Inbox" (first letter capital). "INBOX" is made the inbox folder type by Claws Mail whereas "Inbox" is a normal folder type according to Claws Mail. Both "INBOX" as well as "Inbox" do have the same contents and are basically identical. However, Sylpheed is only showing one "Inbox" folder and makes it the inbox folder type by default. And Trojitá is doing the same, as well as Thunderbird. Only Claws Mail has this issue. Could you please fix that issue? And can you please make Claws Mail make the "Draft" folder be the drafts type folder by default without Claws Mail creating an additional "Drafts" folder (Sylpheed doesn't to that either, so it must be a bug in Claws Mail I'd say)? Also, could you please make Claws Mail make "Bulk Mail" display as "Spam" (it's also called "Spam" in the english Yahoo web interface and not "Bulk Mail")? Regards -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 26 15:22:27 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 13:22:27 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3221] IMAP: Claws Mail has issues with Yahoo IMAP server/folders In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3221 --- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2014-06-26 15:49:02.644804344 +0200 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=a393f813d3a7cb4028cc08c0624b2c23139c7b35 Merge: a8d902e 4e1163d Author: Colin Leroy Date: Thu Jun 26 15:49:02 2014 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e1163d87da4ef8986f505e7837eb0af01a09594 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Thu Jun 26 15:44:58 2014 +0200 Make INBOX case-insensitive (as RFC states), and add a check for a "Draft" folder when building folder tree. Fixes bug #3221, "Claws Mail has issues with Yahoo IMAP server/folders" -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 26 15:50:24 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 13:50:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3221] IMAP: Claws Mail has issues with Yahoo IMAP server/folders In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3221 --- Comment #2 from Paul --- This is essentially a duplicate of bug #2647. I don't know why you keep on comparing with sylpheed - "Sylpheed doesn't to that either, so it must be a bug in Claws Mail I'd say" - as I said before, sylpheed is irrelevant here. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 26 16:23:28 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 14:23:28 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3221] IMAP: Claws Mail has issues with Yahoo IMAP server/folders In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3221 --- Comment #3 from nw9165-3201 --- Hello, thanks for the patch, but: (In reply to comment #1) > Changes related to this bug have been committed. > Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. > You can also get the patch from: > http://git.claws-mail.org/ is there any chance you could release a new Win32 version which has this patch included? Then I could check it. (In reply to comment #2) > This is essentially a duplicate of bug #2647. > > I don't know why you keep on comparing with sylpheed - "Sylpheed doesn't to > that either, so it must be a bug in Claws Mail I'd say" - as I said before, > sylpheed is irrelevant here. Well: I compared it to Sylpheed (and Trojitá and Thunderbird) because I wanted to see if other email clients do show the same issue. If they would have shown the same issue, then maybe Claws Mail wouldn't be at fault. However, those other three email clients (yes, Sylpheed happened to be among them) did not show this issue. So, Claws Mail is very likely at fault here, thus I have a reason to submit a bug report. By the way, considering that you always say and repeatedly try to teach me "Sylpheed is irrelevant here", I found it very funny to read how Ricardo Mones wrote the following sentence a few days ago: > http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2014-June/010147.html > > Ricardo Mones wrote: > > Where “sylpheed” is written you may probably read “claws-mail” ;) ;D It almost led me to reply with "But Sylpheed is irrelevant here =O!", but I managed to resist =D. Regards -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 26 16:30:09 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 14:30:09 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3221] IMAP: Claws Mail has issues with Yahoo IMAP server/folders In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3221 --- Comment #4 from Paul --- (In reply to comment #3) > By the way, considering that you always say and repeatedly try to teach me > "Sylpheed is irrelevant here", I found it very funny to read how Ricardo > Mones wrote the following sentence a few days ago: > > > http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2014-June/010147.html > > > > Ricardo Mones wrote: > > > > Where “sylpheed” is written you may probably read “claws-mail” ;) That was for a different situation, where Ricardo knew it was relevant. However, as a rule, treat sylpheed as irrelevant here unless you specifically know it is relevant in the given situation. Thanks. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jun 26 16:30:50 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 14:30:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3221] IMAP: Claws Mail has issues with Yahoo IMAP server/folders In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3221 Colin Leroy changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #5 from Colin Leroy --- Hi, The next Windows version will come with the next release (which isn't planned yet). Don't worry, though, I did check it :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 26 16:46:23 2014 From: nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com (N. W.) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:46:23 +0100 Subject: [Users] Daily/nightly builds of Claws Mail? Message-ID: <1403793983.67311.YahooMailBasic@web171805.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Hello, > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3221#c5 > > Colin Leroy wrote: > > The next Windows version will come with the next release (which isn't > planned yet). Yahoo is a rather big email provider... Can't you just make an exception? Please ;o? That leads me to another question: Any chance you could release daily/nightly builds of Claws Mail for at least Ubuntu (via a PPA) and Microsoft Windows? Regards From nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 26 16:47:35 2014 From: nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com (N. W.) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:47:35 +0100 Subject: [Users] Why isn't Clawsker included in the Ubuntu PPA? Message-ID: <1403794055.66300.YahooMailBasic@web171806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Hello, I am wondering: Why is Clawsker not included in the Ubuntu PPA and therefore not being updated by it? Regards From colin at colino.net Thu Jun 26 17:01:13 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:01:13 +0200 Subject: [Users] Daily/nightly builds of Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <1403793983.67311.YahooMailBasic@web171805.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1403793983.67311.YahooMailBasic@web171805.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140626170113.3984dc18@colin.i-run.lau> On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:46:23 +0100, "N. W." wrote: > Yahoo is a rather big email provider... Yeah, but nobody suffered from that problem in the last 10 years, it can wait a few weeks :) > Any chance you could release daily/nightly builds of Claws Mail for at > least Ubuntu (via a PPA) and Microsoft Windows? We release daily source snapshots at http://claws-mail.org/snapshots There's also daily debian packages at http://hydra.debian.net/ I don't plan on doing any daily builds of win32 packages, this is just too much work (even if automated). -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 26 17:24:28 2014 From: nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com (N. W.) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:24:28 +0100 Subject: [Users] Daily/nightly builds of Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <20140626170113.3984dc18@colin.i-run.lau> Message-ID: <1403796268.74596.YahooMailBasic@web171804.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Hello, > Coling Leroy wrote: > > Yeah, but nobody suffered from that problem in the last 10 years, it > can wait a few week :). That's probably because Yahoo did not always have IMAP in the last ten years... And when it started to have IMAP, it was "supported" and advertised for mobile devices only at first, see for example: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=493064 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=614826 It just recently started to advertise it's usage for: > https://help.yahoo.com/kb/imap-server-settings-sln4075.html > > [...] or an email program like Outlook [...] That wasn't always the case (as mentioned above). > Coling Leroy wrote: > > We release daily source snapshots at http://claws-mail.org/snapshot > There's also daily debian packages at http://hydra.debian.net/ Thanks, but I don't know how to build it, so doesn't really help. > Coling Leroy wrote: > > I don't plan on doing any daily builds of win32 packages, this is > just too much work (even if automated). That's unfortunate. And what about Ubuntu? Regards From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Thu Jun 26 17:34:41 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:34:41 +0100 Subject: [Users] Daily/nightly builds of Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <1403796268.74596.YahooMailBasic@web171804.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <20140626170113.3984dc18@colin.i-run.lau> <1403796268.74596.YahooMailBasic@web171804.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140626163441.0000142c@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:24:28 +0100 N. W. wrote: > That's probably because Yahoo did not always have IMAP in the last ten > years... It seems that neither GMail nor Yahoo are able to roll out a properly standards-compliant IMAP service or at least one that behaves as expected. It's a pity that you haven't found an alternative provider that you can use. -- Brian Morrison From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Thu Jun 26 17:38:17 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:38:17 +0100 Subject: [Users] Why isn't Clawsker included in the Ubuntu PPA? In-Reply-To: <1403794055.66300.YahooMailBasic@web171806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1403794055.66300.YahooMailBasic@web171806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140626163817.00002bd9@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:47:35 +0100 N. W. wrote: > Hello, > > I am wondering: > > Why is Clawsker not included in the Ubuntu PPA and therefore not being > updated by it? Because the person who builds/updates that PPA doesn't need/want it? -- Brian Morrison From colin at colino.net Thu Jun 26 17:41:03 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:41:03 +0200 Subject: [Users] Daily/nightly builds of Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <20140626163441.0000142c@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> References: <20140626170113.3984dc18@colin.i-run.lau> <1403796268.74596.YahooMailBasic@web171804.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140626163441.0000142c@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140626174103.3547d36d@colin.i-run.lau> On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:34:41 +0100, Brian Morrison wrote: > It seems that neither GMail nor Yahoo are able to roll out a properly > standards-compliant IMAP service or at least one that behaves as > expected. It's a pity that you haven't found an alternative provider > that you can use. To be honest, in the case of Yahoo the fault lied on us : "INBOX" is defined as case-insensitive in the RFC... even if nobody uses "Inbox" :) -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 26 17:44:37 2014 From: nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com (N. W.) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:44:37 +0100 Subject: [Users] Daily/nightly builds of Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <20140626163441.0000142c@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: <1403797477.5181.YahooMailBasic@web171806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Hello, > Brian Morrison wrote: > > It seems that neither GMail nor Yahoo are able to roll out a properly > standards-compliant IMAP service or at least one that behaves as > expected. at least as far as I can see, the inbox folder issue was not Yahoo's fault. Instead it actually seems like it was Claws Mail's fault because Claws Mail did not comply to the RFC in that case, see: http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commit;h=4e1163d87da4ef8986f505e7837eb0af01a09594 ;) Regards From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Thu Jun 26 18:11:08 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:11:08 +0100 Subject: [Users] Daily/nightly builds of Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <20140626174103.3547d36d@colin.i-run.lau> References: <20140626170113.3984dc18@colin.i-run.lau> <1403796268.74596.YahooMailBasic@web171804.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140626163441.0000142c@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20140626174103.3547d36d@colin.i-run.lau> Message-ID: <20140626171108.00000637@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:41:03 +0200 Colin Leroy wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:34:41 +0100, Brian Morrison > wrote: > > > It seems that neither GMail nor Yahoo are able to roll out a > > properly standards-compliant IMAP service or at least one that > > behaves as expected. It's a pity that you haven't found an > > alternative provider that you can use. > > To be honest, in the case of Yahoo the fault lied on us : "INBOX" is > defined as case-insensitive in the RFC... even if nobody uses > "Inbox" :) > Fair enough, I'm not suggesting that Claws is always blameless but the "be strict in what you send and liberal in what you receive" approach generally works. -- Brian Morrison From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Thu Jun 26 18:12:45 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:12:45 +0100 Subject: [Users] Daily/nightly builds of Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <1403797477.5181.YahooMailBasic@web171806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <20140626163441.0000142c@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <1403797477.5181.YahooMailBasic@web171806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140626171245.00000619@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:44:37 +0100 N. W. wrote: > Hello, > > > Brian Morrison wrote: > > > > It seems that neither GMail nor Yahoo are able to roll out a > > properly standards-compliant IMAP service or at least one that > > behaves as expected. > > at least as far as I can see, the inbox folder issue was not Yahoo's > fault. Instead it actually seems like it was Claws Mail's fault > because Claws Mail did not comply to the RFC in that case, see: > > http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commit;h=4e1163d87da4ef8986f505e7837eb0af01a09594 > > ;) It happens. I have built and installed 3.10.1git108 on my home Fedora system already. I'm quite happy to wait for Colin to update the Win32 version. BTW, there is a donation request on the Win32 page... -- Brian Morrison From colin at colino.net Thu Jun 26 22:04:10 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 22:04:10 +0200 Subject: [Users] Daily/nightly builds of Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <20140626171245.00000619@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> References: <20140626163441.0000142c@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <1403797477.5181.YahooMailBasic@web171806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140626171245.00000619@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: <522ae691-1ff4-4888-b32f-6610af58825d@email.android.com> On 26 juin 2014 18:12:45 UTC+02:00, Brian Morrison wrote: >On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:44:37 +0100 >N. W. wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> > Brian Morrison wrote: >> > >> > It seems that neither GMail nor Yahoo are able to roll out a >> > properly standards-compliant IMAP service or at least one that >> > behaves as expected. >> >> at least as far as I can see, the inbox folder issue was not Yahoo's >> fault. Instead it actually seems like it was Claws Mail's fault >> because Claws Mail did not comply to the RFC in that case, see: >> >> >http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commit;h=4e1163d87da4ef8986f505e7837eb0af01a09594 >> >> ;) > >It happens. I have built and installed 3.10.1git108 on my home Fedora >system already. I'm quite happy to wait for Colin to update the Win32 >version. > >BTW, there is a donation request on the Win32 page... Hi, True, but while donations are greatly appreciated, they're not a facilitator for requests :) -- Colin Envoyé de mon smartphone ; excusez la brièveté. Sent from my smartphone ; please excuse the brevity. From nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 26 22:17:44 2014 From: nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com (N. W.) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 21:17:44 +0100 Subject: [Users] Please update icon theme page and package with the new Claws Mail elementary icon theme Message-ID: <1403813864.56340.YahooMailBasic@web171801.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Hello, two weeks ago I asked the author of the Claws Mail elementary icon theme: http://www.claws-mail.org/themes_show_all_icons.php?t=themes/png/elementary/&j=1&n=elementary http://www.claws-mail.org/themes.php?section=downloads if he could update the theme to make it use the latest elementary 3.x icons. He then replied to me and sent me an updated icon theme (which has some bugs fixed and includes the new icons). He told me that he also sent the new theme to the Claws Mail developers. But the icon theme page and package has not been updated, yet. So, could you please update it? Regards From edwardp at linuxmail.org Fri Jun 27 01:23:34 2014 From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 19:23:34 -0400 Subject: [Users] hydra.debian.net Message-ID: <20140626192334.1b36a87c@debiantp.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> This Debian server was mentioned earlier today (Thursday, local time) on the list. Is this the same as what the Ubuntu PPA would do, provide already compiled packages, ready to install on a Debian system? Thanks in advance. From ricardo at mones.org Fri Jun 27 08:51:59 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 08:51:59 +0200 Subject: [Users] hydra.debian.net In-Reply-To: <20140626192334.1b36a87c@debiantp.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <20140626192334.1b36a87c@debiantp.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20140627065159.GA12775@trasgu> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 07:23:34PM -0400, edwardp at linuxmail.org wrote: > This Debian server was mentioned earlier today (Thursday, local time) > on the list. Is this the same as what the Ubuntu PPA would do, provide > already compiled packages, ready to install on a Debian system? Yes, but with a couple of differences: • PPA carries only packages for Claws Mail releases, hydra always tries to build git version for both Claws Mail and packaging. • PPA builds for several Ubuntu releases, hydra only for Debian sid. regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ RTFM - "Read The Manual" (The 'F' is silent). Usually a very good idea. Bjarne Stroustrup -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Claws-mail was installed via the FreeBSD ports system. Thanks! -- Jerry From list at eworm.de Fri Jun 27 18:49:33 2014 From: list at eworm.de (Christian Hesse) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 18:49:33 +0200 Subject: [Users] "auto configure" In-Reply-To: <20140627122529.7a3a021a@scorpio> References: <20140627122529.7a3a021a@scorpio> Message-ID: <20140627184933.502be78a@leda.localdomain> Jerry on Fri, 2014/06/27 12:25: > I do not know if I am doing something wrong, or what, so I thought I would > ask > > I am using claws-mail-3.10.1 on a FreeBSD-10 / amd64 system. Everything > seems to work fine. I have five different accounts, "gmail", "outlook" > "yahoo" and two other business ISP accounts. Now, I can configure them all > manually and they work fine. The question I have is exactly what is the > auto configure suppose to do? Every time I have tried it, it pops up a > "failed" notice. It does not make any difference which account I try it on. > > I am not sure if this only happens on my system, or if I am doing something > wrong. Perhaps I am missing a dependency that I am not aware of. Claws-mail > was installed via the FreeBSD ports system. Hello! Claws-Mail supports auto configuration via RFC 6186 [0]. So your ISP needs to support this. Basically it is just setting some records in DNS. Your can try manually: % dig +short SRV _submission._tcp.gmail.com 5 0 587 smtp.gmail.com. [0] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6186 -- main(a){char*c=/* Schoene Gruesse */"B?IJj;MEH" "CX:;",b;for(a/* Chris get my mail address: */=0;b=c[a++];) putchar(b-1/(/* gcc -o sig sig.c && ./sig */b/42*2-3)*42);} -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 473 bytes Desc: not available URL: From clifflaine at europe.com Fri Jun 27 21:57:52 2014 From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 20:57:52 +0100 Subject: [Users] Password before opening CM? In-Reply-To: <20140625155554.6a20aa13@colin.i-run.lau> References: <20140625125707.091c399a@violet-MXC061> <20140625121421.GE19201@trasgu> <20140625140153.1d9273c1@violet-MXC061> <20140625151334.1c4ad80b@colin.i-run.lau> <20140625092324.30c88968@ron.cerrocora.org> <20140625155554.6a20aa13@colin.i-run.lau> Message-ID: <20140627205752.4abdb000@qiana-MXC061> Thank you all for your replies. I've taken your collective advice to protect the entire system, by updating my Mint version, which gives you an easy way to encrypt the whole disk. Cliff From edwardp at linuxmail.org Sat Jun 28 00:15:02 2014 From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 18:15:02 -0400 Subject: [Users] hydra.debian.net In-Reply-To: <20140627065159.GA12775@trasgu> References: <20140626192334.1b36a87c@debiantp.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140627065159.GA12775@trasgu> Message-ID: <20140627181502.6dd71d8a@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 08:51:59 +0200 Ricardo Mones wrote: > On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 07:23:34PM -0400, edwardp at linuxmail.org wrote: > > This Debian server was mentioned earlier today (Thursday, local > > time) on the list. Is this the same as what the Ubuntu PPA would > > do, provide already compiled packages, ready to install on a Debian > > system? > > Yes, but with a couple of differences: > • PPA carries only packages for Claws Mail releases, hydra always > tries to build git version for both Claws Mail and packaging. > • PPA builds for several Ubuntu releases, hydra only for Debian sid. > > regards, Thank you Ricardo. Well, I guess the off-topic question I should ask is why Debian does not update application packages like Claws. If Ubuntu is Debian-based, then you'd think the PPA would also work with Debian... :( -- Sent using Claws Mail - http://www.claws-mail.org/ From saeed98 at gmx.com Sat Jun 28 12:09:25 2014 From: saeed98 at gmx.com (saeed98 at gmx.com) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 11:09:25 +0100 Subject: [Users] Color themes / lack of multithreading Message-ID: <53AE9455.6090109@gmx.com> After a long search and comparison among email clients, I have decided that I will start using Claws Mail. It seems to be the best choice, at least for my needs. A couple of questions: * It seems that color themes are not supported on Windows, because the Windows port does not allow a change in the GTK themes. I found an old post with a request for enabling them, but I could not find any practical follow-up to that. Is there a way to change color themes on Windows? Even if it is just a hack, it would be welcome. * I read somewhere that sometimes Claws Mail is a bit slow, because it does not support multi-threading. I am not much knowledgeable about these things, so I am not sure I understand this statement correctly. Does this mean that, say, while emails are being downloaded or sent I would be unable to browse my local messages or to compose a message? Would the whole program be 'locked' meanwhile? What are the actual disadvantages caused by the lack of multithreading support? Thanks Saeed From ciamarie at centurylink.net Sat Jun 28 15:23:49 2014 From: ciamarie at centurylink.net (Cia Watson) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 06:23:49 -0700 Subject: [Users] hydra.debian.net In-Reply-To: <20140627181502.6dd71d8a@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <20140626192334.1b36a87c@debiantp.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140627065159.GA12775@trasgu> <20140627181502.6dd71d8a@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20140628062349.15d2d9e4@centurylink.net> On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 18:15:02 -0400 wrote: > Thank you Ricardo. > > Well, I guess the off-topic question I should ask is why Debian does > not update application packages like Claws. > > If Ubuntu is Debian-based, then you'd think the PPA would also work > with Debian... :( Hi Edward, I'm not Ricardo and don't presume to speak for him. However, I am a Debian user, and I can let you know that Debian does update application packages, including Claws. There are basically three "branches" of Debian, and the "stable" branch, which is currently Debian 7, aka Wheezy, depends on the backports repository to get more up-to-date packages. Packages don't get into backports until they've gone into the testing repo, which happens after they've been in the Unstable (or "Sid") repo for a period of time. Otherwise, the stable version will continue with it's older version of Claws, and will mostly just receive security updates to packages. If that wasn't terribly clear, have a look here: https://www.debian.org/releases/ And, the Ubuntu PPAs aren't suggested to be used with Debian, because Ubuntu does customize their configuration, while using Debian as a base of sorts. Cheers, Cia W. From nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 28 16:30:09 2014 From: nw9165-3201 at yahoo.com (N. W.) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 15:30:09 +0100 Subject: [Users] Color themes / lack of multithreading In-Reply-To: <53AE9455.6090109@gmx.com> Message-ID: <1403965809.64069.YahooMailBasic@web171805.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Hello, > saeed98 at gmx.com wrote > > * It seems that color themes are not supported on Windows, > because the Windows port does not allow a change in the GTK > themes. I found an old post with a request for enabling > them, but I could not find any practical follow-up to that. > Is there a way to change color themes on Windows? Even if it > is just a hack, it would be welcome. well, before I used Claws Mail, I was using Sylpheed. Claws Mail is a fork of Sylpheed. And I basically asked the same for Sylpheed what you are asking for Claws Mail now (How to use GTK+ 2 themes on Win32?). You can read about it in the Sylpheed Redmine over there: http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/redmine/issues/186 It basically will tell you how to do it. When the Sylpheed Win32 version was updated to use GTK+ 2.24.23 in Sylpheed 3.5.0beta1, using GTK+ 2 themes in Sylpheed Win32 suddenly seemed to work, even though not perfect, but at least it had an effect on how Sylpheed looked like. Before that, Sylpheed Win32 was using an older GTK+ 2 version and using GTK+ 2 themes did not have an effect at all. The sad thing is: Claws Mail Win32 also is using an old GTK+ 2 version and using themes also does not seem to have an effect. I already asked the Claws Mail developers to update the GTK+ 2 version to the latest version, see: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3175 Unfortunately though, the Claws Mail developers do not really seem to care about that, as you can read over there (including the following posts): http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2014-June/009843.html ;) Anyway, I just tried to use a GTK+ 2 theme in Claws Mail 3.10.1 Win32 using the steps described over there: http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/redmine/issues/186 but it doesn't work. Maybe Colin Leroy (a Claws Mail developer maintaining the Win32 version) can help us? Regards From edwardp at linuxmail.org Sat Jun 28 19:17:11 2014 From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 13:17:11 -0400 Subject: [Users] hydra.debian.net In-Reply-To: <20140628062349.15d2d9e4@centurylink.net> References: <20140626192334.1b36a87c@debiantp.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140627065159.GA12775@trasgu> <20140627181502.6dd71d8a@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140628062349.15d2d9e4@centurylink.net> Message-ID: <20140628131711.17c39726@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 06:23:49 -0700 Cia Watson wrote: > Hi Edward, > > I'm not Ricardo and don't presume to speak for him. However, I am a > Debian user, and I can let you know that Debian does update > application packages, including Claws. There are basically three > "branches" of Debian, and the "stable" branch, which is currently > Debian 7, aka Wheezy, depends on the backports repository to get more > up-to-date packages. Packages don't get into backports until they've > gone into the testing repo, which happens after they've been in the > Unstable (or "Sid") repo for a period of time. > > Otherwise, the stable version will continue with it's older version > of Claws, and will mostly just receive security updates to packages. > If that wasn't terribly clear, have a look here: > https://www.debian.org/releases/ > > And, the Ubuntu PPAs aren't suggested to be used with Debian, because > Ubuntu does customize their configuration, while using Debian as a > base of sorts. > > Cheers, > > Cia W. > Hi Cia, So are you saying that it is /possible/ that 'stable' could receive updated Claws Mail packages at some point, perhaps before Jessie (Debian 8) is released? I once tried adding wheezy-backports to one of my installations but was unable to retrieve anything from it. Although I am willing to try this again... -- Sent using Claws Mail - http://www.claws-mail.org/ From saeed98 at gmx.com Sat Jun 28 20:34:22 2014 From: saeed98 at gmx.com (saeed98 at gmx.com) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 19:34:22 +0100 Subject: [Users] Color themes / lack of multithreading In-Reply-To: <1403965809.64069.YahooMailBasic@web171805.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1403965809.64069.YahooMailBasic@web171805.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <53AF0AAE.9050007@gmx.com> On 28/06/2014 15:30, N. W. wrote: > Hello, > >> saeed98 at gmx.com wrote >> >> * It seems that color themes are not supported on Windows, >> because the Windows port does not allow a change in the GTK >> themes. I found an old post with a request for enabling >> them, but I could not find any practical follow-up to that. >> Is there a way to change color themes on Windows? Even if it >> is just a hack, it would be welcome. > > well, before I used Claws Mail, I was using Sylpheed. Claws Mail is a > fork of Sylpheed. > > And I basically asked the same for Sylpheed what you are asking for > Claws Mail now (How to use GTK+ 2 themes on Win32?). > > You can read about it in the Sylpheed Redmine over there: > > http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/redmine/issues/186 > > It basically will tell you how to do it. > > When the Sylpheed Win32 version was updated to use GTK+ 2.24.23 in > Sylpheed 3.5.0beta1, using GTK+ 2 themes in Sylpheed Win32 suddenly > seemed to work, even though not perfect, but at least it had an effect > on how Sylpheed looked like. > > Before that, Sylpheed Win32 was using an older GTK+ 2 version and using > GTK+ 2 themes did not have an effect at all. > > The sad thing is: > > Claws Mail Win32 also is using an old GTK+ 2 version and using themes > also does not seem to have an effect. > > I already asked the Claws Mail developers to update the GTK+ 2 version > to the latest version, see: > > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3175 > > Unfortunately though, the Claws Mail developers do not really seem to > care about that, as you can read over there (including the following > posts): > > http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2014-June/009843.html > > ;) > > Anyway, I just tried to use a GTK+ 2 theme in Claws Mail 3.10.1 Win32 > using the steps described over there: > > http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/redmine/issues/186 > > but it doesn't work. > > Maybe Colin Leroy (a Claws Mail developer maintaining the Win32 > version) can help us? > > Regards > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > On 28/06/2014 15:30, N. W. wrote:> Hello, > >> saeed98 at gmx.com wrote >> >> * It seems that color themes are not supported on Windows, >> because the Windows port does not allow a change in the GTK >> themes. I found an old post with a request for enabling >> them, but I could not find any practical follow-up to that. >> Is there a way to change color themes on Windows? Even if it >> is just a hack, it would be welcome. > > well, before I used Claws Mail, I was using Sylpheed. Claws Mail is a > fork of Sylpheed. > > And I basically asked the same for Sylpheed what you are asking for > Claws Mail now (How to use GTK+ 2 themes on Win32?). > > You can read about it in the Sylpheed Redmine over there: > > http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/redmine/issues/186 > > It basically will tell you how to do it. > > When the Sylpheed Win32 version was updated to use GTK+ 2.24.23 in > Sylpheed 3.5.0beta1, using GTK+ 2 themes in Sylpheed Win32 suddenly > seemed to work, even though not perfect, but at least it had an effect > on how Sylpheed looked like. > > Before that, Sylpheed Win32 was using an older GTK+ 2 version and using > GTK+ 2 themes did not have an effect at all. > > The sad thing is: > > Claws Mail Win32 also is using an old GTK+ 2 version and using themes > also does not seem to have an effect. > > I already asked the Claws Mail developers to update the GTK+ 2 version > to the latest version, see: > > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3175 > > Unfortunately though, the Claws Mail developers do not really seem to > care about that, as you can read over there (including the following > posts): > > http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2014-June/009843.html > > ;) > > Anyway, I just tried to use a GTK+ 2 theme in Claws Mail 3.10.1 Win32 > using the steps described over there: > > http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/redmine/issues/186 > > but it doesn't work. > > Maybe Colin Leroy (a Claws Mail developer maintaining the Win32 > version) can help us? > > Regards > _______________________________________________ Thanks for your detailed reply, N.W. One thing is for sure, though: before going through all those links and trying to tinker with the system myself, I will wait for the outcome of this thread. In fact, most probably I will not even try at all to solve the problem, if I have to do it on my own. This issue is really for the developers to tackle. As for me, I really don't have the technical skills or the patience to attempt daredevil solutions, especially considering that the email client is something too important to risk compromising its functionality for the sake of changing color themes. Any tinkering may lead to serious problems. Could some of the developers please look into this matter and find a safe solution for changing the GTK color theme on Win32? I am surprised that this issue, which was reported long ago, has not been solved yet. Thanks to all. From ciamarie at centurylink.net Sun Jun 29 15:17:51 2014 From: ciamarie at centurylink.net (Cia Watson) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2014 06:17:51 -0700 Subject: [Users] hydra.debian.net In-Reply-To: <20140628131711.17c39726@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <20140626192334.1b36a87c@debiantp.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140627065159.GA12775@trasgu> <20140627181502.6dd71d8a@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140628062349.15d2d9e4@centurylink.net> <20140628131711.17c39726@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20140629061751.26368e82@centurylink.net> On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 13:17:11 -0400 wrote: > Hi Cia, > > So are you saying that it is /possible/ that 'stable' could receive > updated Claws Mail packages at some point, perhaps before Jessie (Debian > 8) is released? > > I once tried adding wheezy-backports to one of my installations but was > unable to retrieve anything from it. Although I am willing to try this > again... Hi again Edward, Yes, I expect that the 3.10 version of Claws-mail will hit the Wheezy backports repo before Jessie is stable. I currently have v3.9.3 installed from there. Earlier someone posted pinning instructions to have Claws specifically come from backports, but the method I use for something like that is to use this method, in a root terminal I type something like: #apt-get install -t wheezy-backports claws-mail You will also want a couple of lines like the two below in your /etc/apt/sources.list file, except if you're not in the US then substitute your applicable code in place of the "us" portion: #backports repo deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports main contrib non-free Hope that helps! Cia W. From list at eworm.de Mon Jun 30 09:12:59 2014 From: list at eworm.de (Christian Hesse) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 09:12:59 +0200 Subject: [Users] GCompletion In-Reply-To: <20140620123642.6db5f3b2@colin.i-run.lau> References: <20140620110107.1d76f857@leda.localdomain> <20140620123642.6db5f3b2@colin.i-run.lau> Message-ID: <20140630091259.611923bc@leda.localdomain> Colin Leroy on Fri, 2014/06/20 12:36: > On Fri, 20 Jun 2014 11:01:07 +0200, Christian Hesse > wrote: > > Hi, > > > GCompletion has been deprecated in glib 2.26, which is quite old. Is > > there anything planned to replace GCompletion? > > Not really. Last time I looked, the successor API was very different, > and I just dropped it. If you feel like tackling this problem, you'd be > very welcome! :) Not sure if there is any successor API at all. At least I could not find anything for glib. Do you have any references? Looks like GtkEntryCompletion [0] could fill the gap... 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From slitt at troubleshooters.com Mon Jun 30 16:25:56 2014 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 10:25:56 -0400 Subject: [Users] Why does my claws always start offline? Message-ID: <20140630102556.4f6f8d1d@mydesq2.domain.cxm> Hi all, I just transitioned to a new Debian 7.5, 64 bit machine, and installed Claws from the package manager as usual. =================================================== slitt at mydesq2:~$ claws-mail --version-full Claws Mail version 3.8.1 runtime GTK+ 2.24.10 / GLib 2.32.4 buildtime GTK+ 2.24.10 / GLib 2.32.4 Compiled-in features: compface aspell gnutls ipv6 iconv jpilot ldap libetpan 1.0 libsm NetworkManager slitt at mydesq2:~$ uname -a Linux mydesq2 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.57-3+deb7u2 x86_64 GNU/Linux slitt at mydesq2:~$ =================================================== Now, when Claws starts, it starts in offline mode. I've had some instances where eth0 and lo had to be re ifuped and ifdowned, but this happens even if the network's fine: If I just close Claws and then open it again. I'm pretty sure it didn't happen when I first installed Claws on this machine: I think this just started happening a day or two ago, not a week ago when I first fired up the machine. I looked in the account config and the Claws preferences, and saw no setting for whether you want it to come up on or offline on running, but it's entirely possible I missed it. So now, I don't even know what questions to ask in order to narrow the root cause scope, and am open to all suggestions and theories except installing a later version (unless this is a known issue of 3.8.1). Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance From berndth at gmx.de Mon Jun 30 16:36:10 2014 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 16:36:10 +0200 Subject: [Users] Why does my claws always start offline? In-Reply-To: <20140630102556.4f6f8d1d@mydesq2.domain.cxm> References: <20140630102556.4f6f8d1d@mydesq2.domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20140630163610.38943123@wodan> On Mo, 30.06.2014 10:25, Steve Litt wrote: >Now, when Claws starts, it starts in offline mode. The typical cause for this is that NetworkManager tells Claws Mail that the network is offline. Check Tool -> Network Log if that is also the cause in your case. The fix is of course not to have a lying NetworkManager on your machine. The workaround from Claws Mail is the hidden preference "use_networkmanager". Holger

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