From claws-mail_user at thehugheslogcabin.net Tue Jul 1 00:53:02 2014 From: claws-mail_user at thehugheslogcabin.net (Michael Hughes) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 17:53:02 -0500 Subject: [Users] Compiling error Message-ID: <20140630175302.2c712de4@thehugheslogcabin.net> I just did a git pull --all and autogen. Did a gmake and got the following error: rssyl_add_item.c: In function 'rssyl_add_item': rssyl_add_item.c:272: error: function '__error' is initialized like a variable rssyl_add_item.c:272: error: nested function '__error' declared but never defined git describe: 3.10.1-116-g45a6494 -- Michael Hughes Log Home living is the best -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 196 bytes Desc: not available URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jul 1 01:03:40 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 23:03:40 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2939 --- Comment #10 from longlegged.guy at gmail.com --- Potential new user here, but it seems to me that if you're in not in thread view, the behavior is sensible. It seems to me that defining a thread date as the date of the newest message in a thread makes sense because when people do a "View->Sort->By thread date" they're going to want threads with recent messages to appear near other threads with recent messages, and generally people want to look at recent messages because those are the ones that usually require replies. The problem for me is that when I'm in thread view, clicking on the Date column seems to be equivalent to a "View->Sort->By date" which, at least to me, is not a useful sort order for thread view as it does seem to sort by oldest message in a thread. This is a serious flaw. Of course one can go in and do another "View->Sort->By thread date", but that's a lot of mouse movement just to get back to what I want to be my default view. If I can configure a couple keystrokes to do a "View->Sort->By thread" I'll probably use Claws anyhow, otherwise I'll have to continue my hunt for a ecent MUA. Separately my sent messages are appearing in some threads, but not others, but that may have to do with how they were sent and what mailbox they're in and would be a separate bug anyhow even if is Claws is to blame. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From mir at miras.org Tue Jul 1 01:15:18 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 01:15:18 +0200 Subject: [Users] Compiling error In-Reply-To: <20140630175302.2c712de4@thehugheslogcabin.net> References: <20140630175302.2c712de4@thehugheslogcabin.net> Message-ID: <20140701011518.5d216fb8@sleipner.datanom.net> On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 17:53:02 -0500 Michael Hughes wrote: > I just did a git pull --all and autogen. Did a gmake and got the > following error: > > rssyl_add_item.c: In function 'rssyl_add_item': > rssyl_add_item.c:272: error: function '__error' is initialized like a > variable rssyl_add_item.c:272: error: nested function '__error' > declared but never defined > > git describe: > 3.10.1-116-g45a6494 No errors here (Debian Sid). Looks like this is a *BSD related bug? -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: It's always sad when the fleas leave, because that means your dog is dead. -- Wesley T. Williams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From claws-mail_user at thehugheslogcabin.net Tue Jul 1 04:03:46 2014 From: claws-mail_user at thehugheslogcabin.net (Michael Hughes) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 21:03:46 -0500 Subject: [Users] Compiling error In-Reply-To: <20140701011518.5d216fb8@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20140630175302.2c712de4@thehugheslogcabin.net> <20140701011518.5d216fb8@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20140630210346.2c20a0fa@thehugheslogcabin.net> On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 01:15:18 +0200 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 17:53:02 -0500 > Michael Hughes wrote: > > > I just did a git pull --all and autogen. Did a gmake and got the > > following error: > > > > rssyl_add_item.c: In function 'rssyl_add_item': > > rssyl_add_item.c:272: error: function '__error' is initialized like > > a variable rssyl_add_item.c:272: error: nested function '__error' > > declared but never defined > > > > git describe: > > 3.10.1-116-g45a6494 > > No errors here (Debian Sid). Looks like this is a *BSD related bug? > > -- > Hilsen/Regards > Michael Rasmussen > > Get my public GnuPG keys: > michael rasmussen cc > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E > mir datanom net > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C > mir miras org > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > /usr/games/fortune -es says: > It's always sad when the fleas leave, because that means your dog is > dead. -- Wesley T. Williams errno variable is part of the standard C library and is used to pass error numbers from calls to libraries. In rssyl_add_item, errno is being redefined as a gint, that is what is causing the error. I'm not sure if why this was added to the code, but I don't think it should have been. -- Michael Hughes Log Home living is the best -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 196 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mir at miras.org Tue Jul 1 07:46:15 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 07:46:15 +0200 Subject: [Users] Compiling error In-Reply-To: <20140630210346.2c20a0fa@thehugheslogcabin.net> References: <20140630175302.2c712de4@thehugheslogcabin.net> <20140701011518.5d216fb8@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140630210346.2c20a0fa@thehugheslogcabin.net> Message-ID: <20140701074615.4f5d9482@sleipner.datanom.net> On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 21:03:46 -0500 Michael Hughes wrote: > > errno variable is part of the standard C library and is used to pass > error numbers from calls to libraries. In rssyl_add_item, errno is > being redefined as a gint, that is what is causing the error. I'm not > sure if why this was added to the code, but I don't think it should > have been. > Yes, and errno is declared in errno.h which is included in some header files so the complaint from the compiler is that errno is redefined and that basically should not need to be declared again in rssyl_add_item.c. But from man errno: "errno is defined by the ISO C standard to be a modifiable lvalue of type int, and must not be explicitly declared; errno may be a macro. errno is thread-local; setting it in one thread does not affect its value in any other thread." and gint is declared in glib.h: "typedef int gint;" So maybe FreeBSD is more sensitive than Linux? -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: Debian Hint #30: Documentation can be made available at http://localhost/ by installing the 'doc-base' and 'doc-central' packages and their dependencies. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From andrej at kacian.sk Tue Jul 1 08:16:53 2014 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 08:16:53 +0200 Subject: [Users] Compiling error In-Reply-To: <20140701074615.4f5d9482@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20140630175302.2c712de4@thehugheslogcabin.net> <20140701011518.5d216fb8@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140630210346.2c20a0fa@thehugheslogcabin.net> <20140701074615.4f5d9482@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20140701081653.5f590817@penny> On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 07:46:15 +0200 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > > Yes, and errno is declared in errno.h which is included in some header > files so the complaint from the compiler is that errno is redefined > and that basically should not need to be declared again in > rssyl_add_item.c. Michael, does the error go away when you remove the errno declaration at the beginning of the function? Thanks, -- Andrej Kacian -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mir at miras.org Tue Jul 1 08:57:53 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2014 08:57:53 +0200 Subject: [Users] Compiling error In-Reply-To: <20140701081653.5f590817@penny> References: <20140630175302.2c712de4@thehugheslogcabin.net> <20140701011518.5d216fb8@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140630210346.2c20a0fa@thehugheslogcabin.net> <20140701074615.4f5d9482@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140701081653.5f590817@penny> Message-ID: <649376b7-ffe3-4c5b-98b8-4770d62aa795@email.android.com> Hi Andrej, I see no error in Linux. It's a BSD thing. On July 1, 2014 8:16:53 AM CEST, Andrej Kacian wrote: >On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 07:46:15 +0200 >Michael Rasmussen wrote: > >> > >> Yes, and errno is declared in errno.h which is included in some >header >> files so the complaint from the compiler is that errno is redefined >> and that basically should not need to be declared again in >> rssyl_add_item.c. > >Michael, does the error go away when you remove the errno declaration >at the >beginning of the function? > >Thanks, >-- >Andrej Kacian > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Users mailing list >Users at lists.claws-mail.org >http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ---- This mail was virus scanned and spam checked before delivery. This mail is also DKIM signed. See header dkim-signature. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrej at kacian.sk Tue Jul 1 09:38:59 2014 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 09:38:59 +0200 Subject: [Users] Compiling error In-Reply-To: <649376b7-ffe3-4c5b-98b8-4770d62aa795@email.android.com> References: <20140630175302.2c712de4@thehugheslogcabin.net> <20140701011518.5d216fb8@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140630210346.2c20a0fa@thehugheslogcabin.net> <20140701074615.4f5d9482@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140701081653.5f590817@penny> <649376b7-ffe3-4c5b-98b8-4770d62aa795@email.android.com> Message-ID: <20140701093859.507af62c@hiker> On Tue, 01 Jul 2014 08:57:53 +0200 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > Hi Andrej, > I see no error in Linux. It's a BSD thing. Sure, I don't get any error either, but the errno variable doesn't need to be declared there. If its removal will fix something without breaking anything elsewhere... :) P.S. No need to reply to me directly, I read the mailing list. Regards, -- Andrej From rol at witbe.net Tue Jul 1 10:00:37 2014 From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=)) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 10:00:37 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140701100037.6cca7005@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Hello, On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 23:03:40 +0000 noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: > If I can configure a couple keystrokes to do a "View->Sort->By thread" > I'll probably use Claws anyhow, otherwise I'll have to continue my hunt > for a ecent MUA. Go to the menu, and hilight the option, then press the key combination you want to use as an alias for View->Sort->By thread and you are done. I use ctrl-alt-e on my machine as this was free, but you can define whatever you want ! Best, Paul -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jul 1 11:23:27 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2014 09:23:27 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2939 --- Comment #11 from Paul --- (In reply to comment #10) > This is a serious flaw. Overstatement!! > If I can configure a couple keystrokes to do a "View->Sort->By thread" I'll > probably use Claws anyhow, otherwise I'll have to continue my hunt for a > ecent MUA. You can. Just set whatever keyboard shortcut you like for /view/sort /by thread date (see http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Interface#How_can_I_change_the_key-bindings_.28hot-keys.29_in_Claws_Mail.3F) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From mir at miras.org Tue Jul 1 20:05:11 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 20:05:11 +0200 Subject: [Users] Compiling error In-Reply-To: <20140701093859.507af62c@hiker> References: <20140630175302.2c712de4@thehugheslogcabin.net> <20140701011518.5d216fb8@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140630210346.2c20a0fa@thehugheslogcabin.net> <20140701074615.4f5d9482@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140701081653.5f590817@penny> <649376b7-ffe3-4c5b-98b8-4770d62aa795@email.android.com> <20140701093859.507af62c@hiker> Message-ID: <20140701200511.0f7913aa@sleipner.datanom.net> On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 09:38:59 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > > Sure, I don't get any error either, but the errno variable doesn't need > to be declared there. If its removal will fix something without > breaking anything elsewhere... :) > This patch will fix it: diff --git a/src/plugins/rssyl/rssyl_add_item.c b/src/plugins/rssyl/rssyl_add_item.c index 1dc3e78..1878e1c 100644 --- a/src/plugins/rssyl/rssyl_add_item.c +++ b/src/plugins/rssyl/rssyl_add_item.c @@ -28,6 +28,7 @@ #include #include #include +#include /* Claws Mail includes */ #include @@ -269,7 +270,7 @@ void rssyl_add_item(RFolderItem *ritem, FeedItem *feed_item) MsgPermFlags oldperm_flags = 0; MsgInfo *msginfo; FILE *f; - gint fd, d, dif, errno = 0; + gint fd, d, dif; time_t tmpd; gchar *meta_charset = NULL; gchar *baseurl = NULL; > P.S. No need to reply to me directly, I read the mailing list. > I know. It was sent from my phone which only allows reply to sender or reply to all. (K9-mail that is) -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: A countryman between two lawyers is like a fish between two cats. -- Ben Franklin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jul 1 20:47:47 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2014 18:47:47 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2939 --- Comment #12 from andré --- (In reply to comment #11) > (In reply to comment #10) > > This is a serious flaw. > > Overstatement!! It would be REALLY interesting to see the use case for a thread sorted by the oldest date. It is hard to imagine a sane user of threads wanting anything other than sort by the most recent email in the thread. Imagine that someone replies to a thread that is a few weeks old, after maybe 50 emails already filtered to the same mailbox. Never seen, even if it might be urgent to respond to. It is indeed a major dysfunction. > > > If I can configure a couple keystrokes to do a "View->Sort->By thread" I'll > > probably use Claws anyhow, otherwise I'll have to continue my hunt for a > > ecent MUA. > > You can. > > Just set whatever keyboard shortcut you like for /view/sort /by thread date > (see > http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Interface#How_can_I_change_the_key- > bindings_.28hot-keys.29_in_Claws_Mail.3F) Alternately, Claws could be fixed to sort threads by the most recent element. And avoid the user having to re-sort just because they changed from non-thread to thread view. Assuming that you want thread users to use Claws, of course ... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jul 1 21:26:52 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2014 19:26:52 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2939 --- Comment #13 from Paul --- (In reply to comment #12) > It would be REALLY interesting to see the use case for a thread sorted by > the oldest date. > It is hard to imagine a sane user of threads wanting anything other than > sort by the most recent email in the thread. > Imagine that someone replies to a thread that is a few weeks old, after > maybe 50 emails already filtered to the same mailbox. Never seen, even if > it might be urgent to respond to. > It is indeed a major dysfunction. That almost sounds REALLY smart until you realise that by default Claws selects the first new email on entering a folder. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From albert.aribaud at free.fr Tue Jul 1 22:14:14 2014 From: albert.aribaud at free.fr (Albert ARIBAUD) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 22:14:14 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140701221414.00fd8224@lilith> Bonjour noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk, Le Tue, 01 Jul 2014 19:26:52 +0000, noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk a écrit : > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2939 > > --- Comment #13 from Paul --- > (In reply to comment #12) > > It would be REALLY interesting to see the use case for a thread sorted by > > the oldest date. > > It is hard to imagine a sane user of threads wanting anything other than > > sort by the most recent email in the thread. > > Imagine that someone replies to a thread that is a few weeks old, after > > maybe 50 emails already filtered to the same mailbox. Never seen, even if > > it might be urgent to respond to. > > It is indeed a major dysfunction. > > That almost sounds REALLY smart until you realise that by default Claws selects > the first new email on entering a folder. ... And /that/ sounds almost like an entirely valid reply until you realize that not everyone uses the default. Amicalement, -- Albert. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 2 00:48:53 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 23:48:53 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: <20140701221414.00fd8224@lilith> References: <20140701221414.00fd8224@lilith> Message-ID: <20140701234853.61969739@thewildbeast> On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 22:14:14 +0200 Albert ARIBAUD wrote: > ... And /that/ sounds almost like an entirely valid reply until you > realize that not everyone uses the default. /Everyone/ does, until they decide to change it. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From claws-mail_user at thehugheslogcabin.net Wed Jul 2 01:00:58 2014 From: claws-mail_user at thehugheslogcabin.net (Michael Hughes) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 18:00:58 -0500 Subject: [Users] Compiling error In-Reply-To: <20140701081653.5f590817@penny> References: <20140630175302.2c712de4@thehugheslogcabin.net> <20140701011518.5d216fb8@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140630210346.2c20a0fa@thehugheslogcabin.net> <20140701074615.4f5d9482@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140701081653.5f590817@penny> Message-ID: <20140701180058.185de3fe@thehugheslogcabin.net> On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 08:16:53 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 07:46:15 +0200 > Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > > > > > Yes, and errno is declared in errno.h which is included in some > > header files so the complaint from the compiler is that errno is > > redefined and that basically should not need to be declared again in > > rssyl_add_item.c. > > Michael, does the error go away when you remove the errno declaration > at the beginning of the function? > > Thanks, > -- > Andrej Kacian Andrej, Yes, the error goes away if the declaration is removed and compiles. -- Michael Hughes Log Home living is the best -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 196 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sylpheed at 911networks.com Wed Jul 2 02:03:44 2014 From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 17:03:44 -0700 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140701170344.6557babb@frogguski.911networks.com> On Tue, 01 Jul 2014 18:47:47 +0000 noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: >It would be REALLY interesting to see the use case for a thread >sorted by the oldest date. >It is hard to imagine a sane user of threads wanting anything other >than sort by the most recent email in the thread. I must be insane! It must be all the years of using Sylpeed, then claws, and finally CM that must have gotten to me. (BTW, thanks Colin and everyone else that put so much hard work in CM) I use threads and 99.9999% of my folders are threaded by subject and not by date (I must be insane). Then I have Ctrl-] to hide/unhide the already read messages. From a folder with 16249 emails, I view less than half a dozen emails, those are the ones that are not read yet. Each topic/mailing list/customer has its own folder. I have 78 filters to direct/trash... and btw my inbox is almost always empty. My inbox is what CM doesn't know where to direct and I have to deal it manually. My CM has over 130,000+ emails and is still instantaneous. -- Thanks When the network has to work From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 2 08:16:07 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 06:16:07 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2939 --- Comment #14 from Andreas --- One problem I have with the default threaded sort order: On my work email account I like to mark my emails where I still have to do something. Then I use "Sort by Mark", i.e. marked emails are at the bottom (or top when I reverse the sort order). Now the problem is, that threads get "lost", because the are sorted by the oldest date and not the most recent. Thus it would be nice if in the threaded view, the default sort order would be by the most recent date, not the other way around. Even better would be to choose a second sort order. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From andrej at kacian.sk Wed Jul 2 08:21:20 2014 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 08:21:20 +0200 Subject: [Users] Compiling error In-Reply-To: <20140701180058.185de3fe@thehugheslogcabin.net> References: <20140630175302.2c712de4@thehugheslogcabin.net> <20140701011518.5d216fb8@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140630210346.2c20a0fa@thehugheslogcabin.net> <20140701074615.4f5d9482@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140701081653.5f590817@penny> <20140701180058.185de3fe@thehugheslogcabin.net> Message-ID: <20140702082120.1c4a9b3f@penny> On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 18:00:58 -0500 Michael Hughes wrote: > Andrej, > Yes, the error goes away if the declaration is removed and compiles. Alriht, thanks Michael (both Michaels, in fact :) ), I have pushed the fix out to git now. Regards, -- Andrej Kacian -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From albert.aribaud at free.fr Wed Jul 2 08:31:06 2014 From: albert.aribaud at free.fr (Albert ARIBAUD) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 08:31:06 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: <20140701234853.61969739@thewildbeast> References: <20140701221414.00fd8224@lilith> <20140701234853.61969739@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140702083106.05c8d3a3@lilith> Bonjour Paul, Le Tue, 1 Jul 2014 23:48:53 +0100, Paul a écrit : > On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 22:14:14 +0200 > Albert ARIBAUD wrote: > > > ... And /that/ sounds almost like an entirely valid reply until you > > realize that not everyone uses the default. > > /Everyone/ does, until they decide to change it. That argument is (almost) a logical truism, or almost: indeed, formally everyone uses the defaults until they don't any more (although whether they decided to change it or someone else did in order to help them get the setting right is debatable). And because that argument is a truism, it is therefore ineffective since by nature it does not demonstrate anything that was not already obvious. Trusim aside, that argument also fails to address the fact that the defaults settings are not the most acclaimed by users, but the most agreed upon by developers; we don't know, and cannot know reliably, how many of the CM users change some setting from default; we don't even know how many of them dislike some default setting but fail to change it. IOW, just because there is a default does not mean it is the Right Thing, because there is no Thing that would be Right for everyone. Default are not the Right Thing, they are just Good Enough for most users. We do know, however, that some people bothered enough to post to the list or file a bug report about a given behaviour did so because they did not know they could change the setting responsible for this behaviour from the default that they disliked to a non-default value which actually suits them. This is not limited to CM, mind you: I also witnessed this on various mailing lists where long-time users of more widely used mail & usenet client, which they've been using for years, suddenly discover features or settings which they had no idea they could use, but would have if only they had known earlier. Long story short: we don't know if default settings are the best. We don't know if they are being used. We don't know which settings are being used by the most users, or the most often (we don't even know what's more important: used by most used or used most often, or some other criterion). I'm not going to put formward my own case as an example of the best settings, or as a proof that not all people use defaults, as this would not be very useful. Suffice to say that my settings include the default "DO mark selected mail read" because it saves me the time to mark them manually, but also "DO NOT select any message on entering a folder", because I want to be able to navigate between folders without "randomly" marking "read" some mails I didn't actualy read and process. [which, incidently, raises an interesting issue about defaults: some default settings are Good Enough for someone only as long as some other settings remain default too; change one, and others becomes A Nuisance. But I haven't got a solution to this problem, which doubly depends on each user. IOW, defaults are a global *and* subjective concept.] Back to the sorting threads by oldest message *or* by newest message, and which could be the default if one must be: - by newest thread message, when I want the context of each discussion (thus I want threading) and I want to process the most active discussions first (thus I want the thread with the newest message to be "the newest"); - by oldest thread message, when I want the context *and* I want to process the topic that has been waiting the longest first -- think, for instance, patches posted on a ML, and you want to process them by order of submission. - which one should be the default? That's a good question, but as I said earlier, a tricky one, since we don't know, or not factually at least, what is the most useful to users. IMO, which is arguably NSH, I would *tend* to say that the default should be "Sort by thread newest message first" *coupled* with "Display messages threaded", on the rationale that it keeps the context together and it shows recent discussions first. > with regards > > Paul Amicalement, -- Albert. From colin at colino.net Wed Jul 2 09:06:59 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 09:06:59 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: <20140702083106.05c8d3a3@lilith> References: <20140701221414.00fd8224@lilith> <20140701234853.61969739@thewildbeast> <20140702083106.05c8d3a3@lilith> Message-ID: <20140702090659.14d9b761@colin.i-run.lau> On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 08:31:06 +0200, Albert ARIBAUD wrote: > Long story short: we don't know if default settings are the best. We > don't know if they are being used. Yes. But what we know, though, is that when we changed a few very minor things after a few more-vocal-than-average users made some interesting points, a much larger part of the user base (or at least, of subscribers) became very vocal in disagreement. So probably "if it isn't broken, don't fix it" applies there. -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: From albert.aribaud at free.fr Wed Jul 2 09:51:07 2014 From: albert.aribaud at free.fr (Albert ARIBAUD) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 09:51:07 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: <20140702090659.14d9b761@colin.i-run.lau> References: <20140701221414.00fd8224@lilith> <20140701234853.61969739@thewildbeast> <20140702083106.05c8d3a3@lilith> <20140702090659.14d9b761@colin.i-run.lau> Message-ID: <20140702095107.7f388313@lilith> Hi Colin, Le Wed, 2 Jul 2014 09:06:59 +0200, Colin Leroy a écrit : > On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 08:31:06 +0200, Albert ARIBAUD > wrote: > > > Long story short: we don't know if default settings are the best. We > > don't know if they are being used. > > Yes. But what we know, though, is that when we changed a few very minor > things after a few more-vocal-than-average users made some interesting > points, a much larger part of the user base (or at least, of > subscribers) became very vocal in disagreement. > > So probably "if it isn't broken, don't fix it" applies there. I agree that "vocal feedback" is the strongest indicator, and arguably the only one available here. :) I am less convinced about the conclusion: just because a given change on a setting caused a stir does not mean *any* change should be given up. Maybe the current default is perceived as "yeah well, I guess most people are fine with it otherwise there would have been complaints, and I know how to change it so there's no reason for me to complain". Personally, I find the current default (display threaded, by date) to be inconvenient for my common, non-technical use, because it does not sort threads by most recent activity; however, it fits my less-common, technical, use because it shows thread by order of first message, which as I said already is what I want when processing patches. Therefore, I mostly set the sorting order to "by thread" except for technical work, wher I have to switch between "sort by date" and "sort by threzd date" according to which folder I'm in (hint: how about each folder having its own sort order / display mode?) But I hadn't complained about it so far -- maybe I should have -- because it was A Nuisance that /I/ could easily find my way around to make it Good Enough for me. And maybe I am not the only one changing a setting from its default value to fix what does not suit my taste or need, but not complaining about the default itself because i) I have no authority to state what defaults should be, and ii) after all, I have a local fix. Ergo: since the next best thing to "user base" we have is the list subscribers, how about polling them on which sort order (and display type, threaded vs. non-threaded, which is linked to the sort order) they prefer to use? At least, they would be unlikely to complain if they get the settings that most of them said they want. Full disclosure: my own vote would go to: - keep the threaded display mode; - switch from "sort by date" to "sort by thread date"; - make these settings configurable per folder; - remove the "by thread date" sort option, and replace it with a separate, two-option switch "thread date is oldest message date" / "[...] newest message date", defaulting to "thread date is newest message date". I am aware that this amounts to the same behavior as "make Sort By/Thread date by default", that is, a change of default. And yes, I am advocating this change of default. Amicalement, -- Albert. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 2 10:02:00 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 09:02:00 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: <20140702095107.7f388313@lilith> References: <20140701221414.00fd8224@lilith> <20140701234853.61969739@thewildbeast> <20140702083106.05c8d3a3@lilith> <20140702090659.14d9b761@colin.i-run.lau> <20140702095107.7f388313@lilith> Message-ID: <20140702090200.47fb1ce4@thewildbeast> On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 09:51:07 +0200 Albert ARIBAUD wrote: > (hint: how about > each folder having its own sort order / display mode?) It does exactly that right now. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From albert.aribaud at free.fr Wed Jul 2 14:14:22 2014 From: albert.aribaud at free.fr (Albert ARIBAUD) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 14:14:22 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: <20140702090200.47fb1ce4@thewildbeast> References: <20140701221414.00fd8224@lilith> <20140701234853.61969739@thewildbeast> <20140702083106.05c8d3a3@lilith> <20140702090659.14d9b761@colin.i-run.lau> <20140702095107.7f388313@lilith> <20140702090200.47fb1ce4@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140702141422.024888a6@lilith> Bonjour Paul, Le Wed, 2 Jul 2014 09:02:00 +0100, Paul a écrit : > On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 09:51:07 +0200 > Albert ARIBAUD wrote: > > > (hint: how about > > each folder having its own sort order / display mode?) > > It does exactly that right now. My bad, it does indeed. Well, let me move this down one notch: Full disclosure: my own vote would go to: - keep the threaded display mode; - switch from "sort by date" to "sort by thread date"; - remove the "by thread date" sort option, and replace it with a separate, two-option switch "thread date is oldest message date" / "[...] newest message date", defaulting to "thread date is newest message date"; - make these settings configurable per folder. :) > with regards > > Paul Amicalement, -- Albert. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 2 16:16:26 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 14:16:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2939 --- Comment #15 from andré --- (In reply to comment #13) > (In reply to comment #12) > > It would be REALLY interesting to see the use case for a thread sorted by > > the oldest date. > > It is hard to imagine a sane user of threads wanting anything other than > > sort by the most recent email in the thread. > > Imagine that someone replies to a thread that is a few weeks old, after > > maybe 50 emails already filtered to the same mailbox. Never seen, even if > > it might be urgent to respond to. > > It is indeed a major dysfunction. > > That almost sounds REALLY smart until you realise that by default Claws > selects the first new email on entering a folder. In my tests, I found emails "lost" as I suggested. Only by total chance did I encounter such emails. So obviously your "default" can't be relied on. It still would be interesting to see any use case for sorting threads by the oldest email. If you can't suggest one, evidently many users would appreciate a revised default thread sort order. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 2 16:23:44 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 14:23:44 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2939 --- Comment #16 from Paul --- (In reply to comment #15) > In my tests, I found emails "lost" as I suggested. Only by total chance did > I encounter such emails. So obviously your "default" can't be relied on. Sorry, but can't accept blame for user error. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 2 16:33:24 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 14:33:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2939 --- Comment #17 from Albert ARIBAUD --- (in reply to comment 14) I suggested on the mailing list that the "sort by thread date" be removed and replaced with a two-option switch to select whether 'thread date is oldest message date' or "thread date is newest message date' (the latter being the default). This switch could appear in the View / Sort menu, below the "sort by" switch and above the "ascending / descending" switch. (in reply to comment 15) Here is an example use case for sorting threads by oldest (initial) e-mail date: I am a custodian for the U-Boot project. As such, I need to group postings by thread so that I can get all answers to a posted patch close together, and and I want them sorted by initial post date so that the order of threads follows the order of patch submissions. Amicalement, Albert. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From 8191 at mfaux.at Wed Jul 2 17:05:06 2014 From: 8191 at mfaux.at (Manuel Faux) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 17:05:06 +0200 Subject: [Users] Multiple sender addresses for one account Message-ID: <20140702170506.5607ff7a@mfaux.at> Hello, I'm wondering if there is a convenient way to configure one mail account with two different sender addresses. In general one can edit the "From" field in the compose window before sending the mail, but it would be nice if it's possible to choose from the list between the different addresses. Manuel From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 2 17:10:46 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 15:10:46 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2939 --- Comment #18 from Paul Rolland --- (In reply to comment #15) > > It still would be interesting to see any use case for sorting threads by the > oldest email. If you can't suggest one, evidently many users would > appreciate a revised default thread sort order. As this recently appeared with the behavior of the Up key while composing email, I really think that changing the default behavior is a bad idea. On the other hand, I like have the possibility to sort threads based on "most recent" or "oldest" mails in the thread. While we are playing with thread, one thing that would be awesome: being able to select that threads should be collapsed, except for parts of the tree leading to a new mail ! That would make long thread so much easier to read (they often have multiple subtrees). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From ricardo at mones.org Wed Jul 2 17:21:44 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 17:21:44 +0200 Subject: [Users] Multiple sender addresses for one account In-Reply-To: <20140702170506.5607ff7a@mfaux.at> References: <20140702170506.5607ff7a@mfaux.at> Message-ID: <20140702172144.2f3710a2@sumiciu> On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 17:05:06 +0200 Manuel Faux <8191 at mfaux.at> wrote: > Hello, > > I'm wondering if there is a convenient way to configure one mail > account with two different sender addresses. In general one can edit > the "From" field in the compose window before sending the mail, but it > would be nice if it's possible to choose from the list between the > different addresses. Just create some SMTP-only accounts with those addresses. They will appear in the From: select. regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ The three principal virtues of a programmer are Laziness, Impatience, and Hubris. man perl -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From brad at fineby.me.uk Wed Jul 2 17:25:38 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 16:25:38 +0100 Subject: [Users] Multiple sender addresses for one account In-Reply-To: <20140702170506.5607ff7a@mfaux.at> References: <20140702170506.5607ff7a@mfaux.at> Message-ID: <20140702162538.3f372d9a@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 17:05:06 +0200 Manuel Faux <8191 at mfaux.at> wrote: Hello Manuel, >I'm wondering if there is a convenient way to configure one mail >account with two different sender addresses. In general one can edit In "Edit accounts..." select the account you wish to have a second email address and choose "Copy". You'll now have a clone of the original account. Give each a unique name and change the email address in one. Now you'll have two accounts using the same servers, but with different email addresses. Select whichever you wish to use in the 'Compose' window. Alternatively, set up two folders each with their own default "From" address, and sort relevant mails into them. Then, when you reply, the correct mail address will be used. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" What will you do when the gas taps turn? The Gasman Cometh - Crass -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 473 bytes Desc: not available URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 2 17:26:43 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 16:26:43 +0100 Subject: [Users] Multiple sender addresses for one account In-Reply-To: <20140702170506.5607ff7a@mfaux.at> References: <20140702170506.5607ff7a@mfaux.at> Message-ID: <20140702162643.12b2c384@thewildbeast> Hi Manuel, On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 17:05:06 +0200 Manuel Faux <8191 at mfaux.at> wrote: > I'm wondering if there is a convenient way to configure one mail > account with two different sender addresses. In general one can edit > the "From" field in the compose window before sending the mail, but > it would be nice if it's possible to choose from the list between > the different addresses. Not exactly 'one email account with two different sender addresses', but you can use Templates to change the From address. These can be general templates, (/Configuration/Templates to edit them, /Tools/Template/... in the Compose window to use them), or you can create Folder Templates (right-click folder, choose Properties/Templates). Or you could copy accounts and change just the address. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From 8191 at mfaux.at Wed Jul 2 17:59:33 2014 From: 8191 at mfaux.at (Manuel Faux) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 17:59:33 +0200 Subject: [Users] Multiple sender addresses for one account In-Reply-To: <20140702162538.3f372d9a@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20140702170506.5607ff7a@mfaux.at> <20140702162538.3f372d9a@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140702175933.62626c25@mfaux.at> On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 16:25:38 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: > Now you'll have two accounts using the same servers, but with > different email addresses. Select whichever you wish to use in the > 'Compose' window. Alternatively, set up two folders each with their > own default "From" address, and sort relevant mails into them. Then, > when you reply, the correct mail address will be used. > Unfortunately I cannot find that option in the folder properties. I can only see a possibility to change to default account, but not only the From address. I use Claws 3.10, which version do you use? Manuel From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Wed Jul 2 18:10:59 2014 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 12:10:59 -0400 Subject: [Users] Multiple sender addresses for one account In-Reply-To: <20140702162538.3f372d9a@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20140702170506.5607ff7a@mfaux.at> <20140702162538.3f372d9a@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140702121059.35abe13c@ron.cerrocora.org> On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 16:25:38 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: > In "Edit accounts..." select the account you wish to have a second > email address and choose "Copy". You'll now have a clone of the > original account. Give each a unique name and change the email address > in one. > > Now you'll have two accounts using the same servers, but with different > email addresses. Select whichever you wish to use in the 'Compose' > window. Alternatively, set up two folders each with their own default > "From" address, and sort relevant mails into them. Then, when you > reply, the correct mail address will be used. This is also useful when you want similar accounts, but using different languages and/or sigfiles. Cheers, Ron. -- If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. -- Derek Bok, president of Harvard -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 2 18:21:32 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 17:21:32 +0100 Subject: [Users] Multiple sender addresses for one account In-Reply-To: <20140702175933.62626c25@mfaux.at> References: <20140702170506.5607ff7a@mfaux.at> <20140702162538.3f372d9a@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140702175933.62626c25@mfaux.at> Message-ID: <20140702172132.3e25e5b2@thewildbeast> On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 17:59:33 +0200 Manuel Faux <8191 at mfaux.at> wrote: > Unfortunately I cannot find that option in the folder properties. I > can only see a possibility to change to default account, but not > only the From address. That's in the Template that I mentioned. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From 8191 at mfaux.at Wed Jul 2 18:26:12 2014 From: 8191 at mfaux.at (Manuel Faux) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 18:26:12 +0200 Subject: [Users] Multiple sender addresses for one account In-Reply-To: <20140702172132.3e25e5b2@thewildbeast> References: <20140702170506.5607ff7a@mfaux.at> <20140702162538.3f372d9a@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140702175933.62626c25@mfaux.at> <20140702172132.3e25e5b2@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140702182612.30d439b4@mfaux.at> On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 17:21:32 +0100 Paul wrote: > On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 17:59:33 +0200 > Manuel Faux <8191 at mfaux.at> wrote: > > > Unfortunately I cannot find that option in the folder properties. I > > can only see a possibility to change to default account, but not > > only the From address. > > That's in the Template that I mentioned. Got it, thanks! Manuel From brad at fineby.me.uk Wed Jul 2 18:22:58 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 17:22:58 +0100 Subject: [Users] Multiple sender addresses for one account In-Reply-To: <20140702175933.62626c25@mfaux.at> References: <20140702170506.5607ff7a@mfaux.at> <20140702162538.3f372d9a@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140702175933.62626c25@mfaux.at> Message-ID: <20140702172258.62254a0f@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 17:59:33 +0200 Manuel Faux <8191 at mfaux.at> wrote: Hello Manuel, >Unfortunately I cannot find that option in the folder properties. I can >only see a possibility to change to default account, but not only the >From address. Mea Culpa; That's what you want. Sorry for the confusion. I rattled off my reply a little too fast. Since one account is cloned from the other, and only the email address changed, it effectively alters the From: address, and nothing else. >I use Claws 3.10, which version do you use? Same as - more or less; I compile from GIT. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" I'd hate to look into those eyes and see an ounce of pain Sweet Child O'Mine - Guns 'N' Roses -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Interestingly, not *one* of the people that had "issues" with my sigs had the bottle to approach /me/ about it. My first reaction would have been that the admin was the one with the problem, but as I know the admin reasonably well, I know that not to be the case. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Stained glass windows keep the cold outside Religion - Public Image Ltd -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 473 bytes Desc: not available URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 2 19:05:55 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 18:05:55 +0100 Subject: [Users] Multiple sender addresses for one account In-Reply-To: <20140702175746.58bd6abd@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20140702170506.5607ff7a@mfaux.at> <20140702162538.3f372d9a@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140702121059.35abe13c@ron.cerrocora.org> <20140702175746.58bd6abd@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140702180555.399d9863@thewildbeast> On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 17:57:46 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: > There's one mailing list I'm subbed to where, apparently, several > people complained about the sigs attached to my posts. List admin > asked me to remove them to appease the whiners. Interestingly, not > *one* of the people that had "issues" with my sigs had the bottle > to approach /me/ about it. My first reaction would have been that > the admin was the one with the problem, but as I know the admin > reasonably well, I know that not to be the case. You probably needed to match the album cover with the quote! :) with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From brad at fineby.me.uk Wed Jul 2 19:34:55 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 18:34:55 +0100 Subject: [Users] Multiple sender addresses for one account In-Reply-To: <20140702180555.399d9863@thewildbeast> References: <20140702170506.5607ff7a@mfaux.at> <20140702162538.3f372d9a@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140702121059.35abe13c@ron.cerrocora.org> <20140702175746.58bd6abd@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140702180555.399d9863@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140702183455.7457dbbc@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 18:05:55 +0100 Paul wrote: Hello Paul, >You probably needed to match the album cover with the quote! :) LOL! Most album covers don't look very good when rendered down to something that Face can handle, as they are far too colourful. :-( But I'll keep trying. :-) -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Loaded like a freight train flyin' like an aeroplane Nightrain - Guns 'N' Roses -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 473 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ml at lairdutemps.org Thu Jul 3 08:57:57 2014 From: ml at lairdutemps.org (Daniel Caillibaud) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 08:57:57 +0200 Subject: [Users] move action on folder of an imap account can move mails in the first account INBOX Message-ID: <20140703085757.34b56312@quad.lairdutemps.org> Hi, Hi guess it's a bug, but perhaps a misunderstood. I'm using claws 3.8.1 (the one of debian wheezy) On a lot of folders of imap accounts I have treatment rules to archive like age_greater 30 move "#mh/Archives_ML/app/claws-users" But, if the destination folder doesn't exists (because a mount failed for example), all the mails matching the rule are moved to the INBOX folder of the first account. And quite often (these days almost each morning), they are moved to this wrong destination even if the destination folder exists, which is really painfull. How can I trace this to understand why ? -- Daniel L'eau conduit l'électricité, mais si tu mets du vin dedans, elle a plus le droit de conduire. Brèves de comptoir (rapportée par Jean-Marie Gourio) From ml at lairdutemps.org Thu Jul 3 09:28:22 2014 From: ml at lairdutemps.org (Daniel Caillibaud) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 09:28:22 +0200 Subject: [Users] move action on folder of an imap account can move mails in the first account INBOX In-Reply-To: <20140703085757.34b56312@quad.lairdutemps.org> References: <20140703085757.34b56312@quad.lairdutemps.org> Message-ID: <20140703092822.268cee8e@quad.lairdutemps.org> Le 03/07/14 à 08:57, Daniel Caillibaud a écrit : DC> Hi, DC> DC> Hi guess it's a bug, but perhaps a misunderstood. DC> DC> I'm using claws 3.8.1 (the one of debian wheezy) DC> DC> On a lot of folders of imap accounts I have treatment rules to archive like DC> age_greater 30 move "#mh/Archives_ML/app/claws-users" DC> DC> But, if the destination folder doesn't exists (because a mount failed for example), all the DC> mails matching the rule are moved to the INBOX folder of the first account. DC> DC> And quite often (these days almost each morning), they are moved to this wrong destination DC> even if the destination folder exists, which is really painfull. DC> DC> How can I trace this to understand why ? I had a move rule on this imap account from INBOX to #mh/Archives_ML/INBOX, and dest dir wasn't there, so I guess that move rules have a fallback moving to dest account inbox when dest folder doesn't exists (which seems to me a bug) and if dest account inbox doesn't exists, to move to the first inbox found, which is really worse (because it's moving email from an imap account to another when the user doesn't want to). But the moved mails were in a folder whith a rule containing a valid destination, either another rule encountered before doesn't, so it's perhaps another bug. Let me know if it's usefull to create a bug report on claws platform. I'll see if adding these missings destination folders will solve the pb. in case it helps, to see if all dest folders of all rules exists : mhbase=/path/to/mh/accounts/root sed -nre 's/.*move "#mh(.*)".*/\1/p' ~/.claws-mail/matcherrc |while read d; \ do [ -d "$mhbase$d" ] || echo "$d doesn't exists"; done -- Daniel Ce n'est pas en ouvrant la gorge du rossignol qu'on découvrira le secret de son chant. Jean Cocteau From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 3 09:32:23 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 08:32:23 +0100 Subject: [Users] move action on folder of an imap account can move mails in the first account INBOX In-Reply-To: <20140703092822.268cee8e@quad.lairdutemps.org> References: <20140703085757.34b56312@quad.lairdutemps.org> <20140703092822.268cee8e@quad.lairdutemps.org> Message-ID: <20140703083223.0a26f1ac@thewildbeast> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 09:28:22 +0200 Daniel Caillibaud wrote: > Let me know if it's usefull to create a bug report on claws > platform. It won't be useful until you verify that it exists in the latest release. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 3 15:48:22 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 13:48:22 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2939 --- Comment #19 from andré --- (In reply to comment #16) > (In reply to comment #15) > > In my tests, I found emails "lost" as I suggested. Only by total chance did > > I encounter such emails. So obviously your "default" can't be relied on. > > Sorry, but can't accept blame for user error. Apparently you fail to understand that the problem is caused by the dysfunction of the (default) sort order of threads. As well, your workaround kludge simply does not work. (Quite possibly because of newer messages in multiple threads.) In no way related to any actions of the user. Evidently the "user error" is using threads with claws mail. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From poenikatu at fastmail.co.uk Thu Jul 3 17:03:06 2014 From: poenikatu at fastmail.co.uk (Sian Mountbatten) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 16:03:06 +0100 Subject: [Users] Cannot display saved messages Message-ID: <20140703160306.6787b669@Feniksujo.dlink.com> Dear List When I select one of the MH mailboxes where I have saved messages, claws-mail refuses to show the list of messages. Thus I cannot refer to the messages' content. Have I mis-configured the program? Sincerely From sylpheed at 911networks.com Fri Jul 4 03:03:25 2014 From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 18:03:25 -0700 Subject: [Users] Reading a vCard Message-ID: <20140703180325.2e4d5d9b@frogguski.911networks.com> Hi, I have CM 3.10.1, I just received a vcard that I need to deal with. How can I read the content. Within CM would be best, but it doesn't have to. Just have to read it. sknahT vyS From sylpheed at 911networks.com Fri Jul 4 03:39:07 2014 From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 18:39:07 -0700 Subject: [Users] Reading a vCard In-Reply-To: <20140703180325.2e4d5d9b@frogguski.911networks.com> References: <20140703180325.2e4d5d9b@frogguski.911networks.com> Message-ID: <20140703183907.60b1e53f@frogguski.911networks.com> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 18:03:25 -0700 sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote: >I have CM 3.10.1, I just received a vcard that I need to deal with. >How can I read the content. Within CM would be best, but it doesn't >have to. Further info: the vcf card that I need (for a conference call) is generated by an 2010 Exchange server. When I tried vcf2csv, it complained of malicious lines. -- sknahT vyS From myetto1 at nycap.rr.com Fri Jul 4 04:54:30 2014 From: myetto1 at nycap.rr.com (Michael A. Yetto) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 22:54:30 -0400 Subject: [Users] Reading a vCard In-Reply-To: <20140703180325.2e4d5d9b@frogguski.911networks.com> References: <20140703180325.2e4d5d9b@frogguski.911networks.com> Message-ID: <20140703225430.2c6e2395@Braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 18:03:25 -0700 sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote: >Hi, > >I have CM 3.10.1, I just received a vcard that I need to deal >with. How can I read the content. Within CM would be best, but >it doesn't have to. > >Just have to read it. > Since vcards are plain text you can use any text editor/reader including less. -- Mike -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sylpheed at 911networks.com Fri Jul 4 05:31:21 2014 From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 20:31:21 -0700 Subject: [Users] Reading a vCard In-Reply-To: <20140703225430.2c6e2395@Braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> References: <20140703180325.2e4d5d9b@frogguski.911networks.com> <20140703225430.2c6e2395@Braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> Message-ID: <20140703203121.0483a8e0@frogguski.911networks.com> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 22:54:30 -0400 "Michael A. Yetto" wrote: >Since vcards are plain text you can use any text editor/reader >including less. It's slightly more complicated than that with the timezones and why is there 2 of them, the rrules... BEGIN:VTIMEZONE TZID:Eastern Standard Time BEGIN:STANDARD DTSTART:16010101T020000 TZOFFSETFROM:-0400 TZOFFSETTO:-0500 RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;INTERVAL=1;BYDAY=1SU;BYMONTH=11 END:STANDARD BEGIN:DAYLIGHT DTSTART:16010101T020000 TZOFFSETFROM:-0500 TZOFFSETTO:-0400 RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;INTERVAL=1;BYDAY=2SU;BYMONTH=3 END:DAYLIGHT END:VTIMEZONE That's why I was looking for some utility that would read and display the vCards. -- sknahT vyS From mir at miras.org Fri Jul 4 07:47:40 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 07:47:40 +0200 Subject: [Users] Reading a vCard In-Reply-To: <20140703180325.2e4d5d9b@frogguski.911networks.com> References: <20140703180325.2e4d5d9b@frogguski.911networks.com> Message-ID: <20140704074740.1569354e@sleipner.datanom.net> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 18:03:25 -0700 sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote: > Hi, > > I have CM 3.10.1, I just received a vcard that I need to deal with. > How can I read the content. Within CM would be best, but it doesn't > have to. > > Just have to read it. > Loading the vcalender plugin should provide what you need. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: History repeats itself. That's one thing wrong with history. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Jul 4 08:17:06 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 07:17:06 +0100 Subject: [Users] Reading a vCard In-Reply-To: <20140703180325.2e4d5d9b@frogguski.911networks.com> References: <20140703180325.2e4d5d9b@frogguski.911networks.com> Message-ID: <20140704071706.15eb3886@thewildbeast> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 18:03:25 -0700 sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote: > I have CM 3.10.1, I just received a vcard that I need to deal with. > How can I read the content. Within CM would be best, but it doesn't > have to. > > Just have to read it. Save the vCard to a directory. Open to the address book, and use /Book/New vCard/... to import it. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Jul 4 08:25:37 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2014 06:25:37 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2939 --- Comment #20 from Paul --- (In reply to comment #19) > Apparently you fail to understand that the problem is caused by the > dysfunction of the (default) sort order of threads. > As well, your workaround kludge simply does not work. (Quite possibly > because of newer messages in multiple threads.) > In no way related to any actions of the user. André, what you call a "workaround kludge" that "does not work" has been working for me for many years. But this must be because I'm not as smart as you, and there's something that I just don't understand, and it's only though my ignorance that it works. Congratulations André, you win the prize - a conical hat with a big gold star painted on it - for being the smartest kid on the block. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Jul 4 08:30:59 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 07:30:59 +0100 Subject: [Users] Cannot display saved messages In-Reply-To: <20140703160306.6787b669@Feniksujo.dlink.com> References: <20140703160306.6787b669@Feniksujo.dlink.com> Message-ID: <20140704073059.3f228295@thewildbeast> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 16:03:06 +0100 Sian Mountbatten wrote: > When I select one of the MH mailboxes where I have saved messages, > claws-mail refuses to show the list of messages. Thus I cannot > refer to the messages' content. > > Have I mis-configured the program? That's hard to answer, based just on what you've said. Does 'refuses to show' mean the list is empty?? This could be because you have 'hide read messages' set and the folder has only read messages. But it could be something else. I've never known this to happen previously, so the chances are that it is something you've done. More information needed. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From albert.aribaud at free.fr Fri Jul 4 11:56:21 2014 From: albert.aribaud at free.fr (Albert ARIBAUD) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 11:56:21 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140704115621.65d57bee@lilith> Bonjour noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk, Le Fri, 04 Jul 2014 06:25:37 +0000, noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk a écrit : > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2939 > > --- Comment #20 from Paul --- > (In reply to comment #19) > > > Apparently you fail to understand that the problem is caused by the > > dysfunction of the (default) sort order of threads. > > As well, your workaround kludge simply does not work. (Quite possibly > > because of newer messages in multiple threads.) > > In no way related to any actions of the user. > > André, what you call a "workaround kludge" that "does not work" has been > working for me for many years. But this must be because I'm not as smart as > you, and there's something that I just don't understand, and it's only though > my ignorance that it works. > > Congratulations André, you win the prize - a conical hat with a big gold star > painted on it - for being the smartest kid on the block. Would it be possible that both of you, André and Paul, stop arguing ad personam and keep your public contributions to studying the situation objectively and cooperating with other contributors to get to a useful conclusion? Thanks in advance. Now for the issue at hand: As far that the technical point is concerned, I would like to point out the following objective items: - there are currently two date-based sorting options in CM: "sort by date" and "sort by thread date". - "thread date" is ambiguous by nature, as a thread does not have one date; it has at least two, that of is original (oldest) message, and that of the latest (newest) message (it could even mean "any date between oldest and newest message", but I"ve seen no use of this meaning). - when not threading, "sort by thread date" seems to bear little or no useful meaning, first because the user explicitly did not want to thread, second because sorting /messages/ by (whatever) /thread/ date (is considered) would display messages in a non-date-monotonic, thus IMO unnatural, order. - when threading, "sort by date" has no meaning or usefulness, as nothing says which of a thread's message the date should be taken from. Similarly, "sort by date" could mean the same as "sort by thread date", which would be confusing; - the default setting is "Thread view" and "sort by date", which means a thread started long ago will be displayed along "older" threads even if it received a new reply recently. These facts led me (in comment #8, then again in comment #17) to suggest that: - only one date-sorting be kept: "sort by date"; - that the date in question be defined as the "message date" when not threading, and the "thread date" when threading; - that the "thread date" be defined as the oldest or newest thread message date, depending on a two-option switch in the View/Sort menu, similar in appearance to the Ascending/Descending switch, only with "Thread date is oldest message date/Thread date is newest message date"; - In order to keep current default behaviour unchanged, set "sort by date" and "thread date is newest message date" as defaults. I know I've said this already; however, it has received no feedback, not even an acknowledgement of existence, which makes it hard for me to decide whether my suggestion is deemed pointless or simply ignored because a personal argument is developing. Amicalement, -- Albert. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Jul 4 13:12:25 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2014 11:12:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3103] Associate claws-mail.desktop with .mbox and .eml files. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3103 --- Comment #3 from Iurii Blokhin --- Very need this feature. Claws Mail have functionality to save message (File->Save email as), but doesn't have functionality to open saved message. Often we need to open saved message from backup. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From ml at lairdutemps.org Fri Jul 4 15:45:53 2014 From: ml at lairdutemps.org (Daniel Caillibaud) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 15:45:53 +0200 Subject: [Users] move action on folder of an imap account can move mails in the first account INBOX In-Reply-To: <20140703092822.268cee8e@quad.lairdutemps.org> References: <20140703085757.34b56312@quad.lairdutemps.org> <20140703092822.268cee8e@quad.lairdutemps.org> Message-ID: <20140704154553.12c4b2b4@quad.lairdutemps.org> Le 03/07/14 à 09:28, Daniel Caillibaud a écrit : DC> I'll see if adding these missings destination folders will solve the pb. It doesn't :-/ This bug occured from time to time but seems to occurs now at a higher frequency, I don't see why. Is there a way to log every matched rule and the action taken ? -- Daniel Transmettre, ce n'est pas remplir un vase, c'est allumer un feu. Montaigne From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Jul 4 15:53:21 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 14:53:21 +0100 Subject: [Users] move action on folder of an imap account can move mails in the first account INBOX In-Reply-To: <20140704154553.12c4b2b4@quad.lairdutemps.org> References: <20140703085757.34b56312@quad.lairdutemps.org> <20140703092822.268cee8e@quad.lairdutemps.org> <20140704154553.12c4b2b4@quad.lairdutemps.org> Message-ID: <20140704145321.1a653491@thewildbeast> On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 15:45:53 +0200 Daniel Caillibaud wrote: > Is there a way to log every matched rule and the action taken ? The Filtering Log. Turn on at /Configuration/Preferences/Other/Logging View at /Tools/Filtering Log Be aware, though, that using the filtering log can slow things down a lot, so turn it off when not needed. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From ml at lairdutemps.org Fri Jul 4 19:35:31 2014 From: ml at lairdutemps.org (Daniel Caillibaud) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 19:35:31 +0200 Subject: [Users] move action on folder of an imap account can move mails in the first account INBOX In-Reply-To: <20140704145321.1a653491@thewildbeast> References: <20140703085757.34b56312@quad.lairdutemps.org> <20140703092822.268cee8e@quad.lairdutemps.org> <20140704154553.12c4b2b4@quad.lairdutemps.org> <20140704145321.1a653491@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140704193531.573a0bc9@quad.lairdutemps.org> Le 04/07/14 à 14:53, Paul a écrit : P> On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 15:45:53 +0200 P> Daniel Caillibaud wrote: P> P> > Is there a way to log every matched rule and the action taken ? P> P> The Filtering Log. P> P> Turn on at /Configuration/Preferences/Other/Logging P> P> View at /Tools/Filtering Log Thanx a lot. I tried version 3.9.3 (from debian wheezy-backports), but I still have the bug, the trace says applying action [ move "#mh/Archives_ML/path/to/folder" ] but some mails are copied in the INBOX of the first account, and in that case the mail is also in the move destination (several copies), and still in the source folder :-/ P> Be aware, though, that using the filtering log can slow things down a P> lot, so turn it off when not needed. I turn it off because there is no info on the pb in it (it says the move is fine). -- Daniel Plus on avance dans la vie, plus on est obligé d'admettre que le sel de l'existence est essentiellement dans le poivre qu'on y met. Alphonse Allais From sylpheed at 911networks.com Fri Jul 4 23:23:44 2014 From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 14:23:44 -0700 Subject: [Users] filtering by From/To/Subject/Tag Message-ID: <20140704142344.1b89df08@frogguski.911networks.com> Hi, CM 3.10.1, quick question. When I filter by: Tony Liu on a folder I get 9 results and with tony.liu at centrichealth.ca on the same folder I get 29 results I checked every occurrence of tony.liu at centrichealth.ca and all say: say Tony Liu So why is: Name <> missing from the From/To/Subject/Tag filtering? or am I missing something? -- sknahT vyS From edwardp at linuxmail.org Fri Jul 4 23:55:59 2014 From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 17:55:59 -0400 Subject: [Users] Fancy plugin Message-ID: <20140704175559.00004ccf@linuxmail.org> Regarding the Fancy plugin, on Linux (Claws 3.8.1 on Debian Wheezy), to load in images from an HTML e-mail, I select Load Images from the graphic at the bottom of the window, but on Windows (Claws 3.10.1 on Vista 32-bit), I have to select Enable Remote Content to see the same images. Is this the correct behavior (e.g. Linux vs. Windows)? Thanks in advance, Edward From cwallace at lodgingcompany.com Sat Jul 5 00:45:11 2014 From: cwallace at lodgingcompany.com (Chad Wallace) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 15:45:11 -0700 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: <20140704115621.65d57bee@lilith> References: <20140704115621.65d57bee@lilith> Message-ID: <20140704154511.1567a8a1@ws78.int.tlc> On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 11:56:21 +0200 Albert ARIBAUD wrote: > These facts led me (in comment #8, then again in comment #17) to > suggest that: > > - only one date-sorting be kept: "sort by date"; > > - that the date in question be defined as the "message date" when not > threading, and the "thread date" when threading; > > - that the "thread date" be defined as the oldest or newest thread > message date, depending on a two-option switch in the View/Sort > menu, similar in appearance to the Ascending/Descending switch, > only with "Thread date is oldest message date/Thread date is > newest message date"; > > - In order to keep current default behaviour unchanged, set "sort by > date" and "thread date is newest message date" as defaults. > > I know I've said this already; however, it has received no feedback, > not even an acknowledgement of existence, which makes it hard for me > to decide whether my suggestion is deemed pointless or simply ignored > because a personal argument is developing. Perhaps the reason you haven't got a response is because the ticket is about changing the default setting. The developers don't want to do it, and the reporter is adamant that they must. Myself, I couldn't care less what the default is. I have it set the way I want it, and that's it. As far as what you've suggested, I fully agree with you. Your suggestions would expose the true behaviour much better than the terms "by date" and "by thread date". However, for the sake of implementation, it may be easiest just to change the two existing labels. The trick is finding the right labels that say exactly what they do... How about: "By date (oldest in thread)" and "By date (newest in thread)". -- C. Chad Wallace, B.Sc. The Lodging Company http://www.lodgingcompany.com/ OpenPGP Public Key ID: 0x262208A0 From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Jul 5 09:00:11 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 08:00:11 +0100 Subject: [Users] Fancy plugin In-Reply-To: <20140704175559.00004ccf@linuxmail.org> References: <20140704175559.00004ccf@linuxmail.org> Message-ID: <20140705080011.51d55cf2@thewildbeast> On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 17:55:59 -0400 wrote: > Regarding the Fancy plugin, on Linux (Claws 3.8.1 on Debian > Wheezy), to load in images from an HTML e-mail, I select Load > Images from the graphic at the bottom of the window, but on Windows > (Claws 3.10.1 on Vista 32-bit), I have to select Enable Remote > Content to see the same images. > > Is this the correct behavior (e.g. Linux vs. Windows)? No, this is correct behaviour 3.8.1 vs. 3.10.1. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Jul 5 09:05:28 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 08:05:28 +0100 Subject: [Users] filtering by From/To/Subject/Tag In-Reply-To: <20140704142344.1b89df08@frogguski.911networks.com> References: <20140704142344.1b89df08@frogguski.911networks.com> Message-ID: <20140705080528.799550c8@thewildbeast> On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 14:23:44 -0700 sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote: > Tony Liu on a folder I get 9 results and > with tony.liu at centrichealth.ca on the same folder I get 29 results > > I checked every occurrence of tony.liu at centrichealth.ca and all > say: say Tony Liu > > So why is: Name <> missing from the From/To/Subject/Tag filtering? > or am I missing something? It works fine for me. I think that maybe you are mistaken. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Jul 5 09:20:06 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 08:20:06 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: <20140704115621.65d57bee@lilith> References: <20140704115621.65d57bee@lilith> Message-ID: <20140705082006.2fc30048@thewildbeast> On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 11:56:21 +0200 Albert ARIBAUD wrote: > Would it be possible that both of you, André and Paul, stop arguing > ad personam and keep your public contributions to studying the > situation objectively and cooperating with other contributors to > get to a useful conclusion? Well of course it's possible. It's also possible to do both, despite Andre's best efforts. > - when threading, "sort by date" has no meaning or usefulness, That's wrong. In case it's been missed, this is how I('ve) always sort(ed) folders and continue to do so, and it works fine for me for years now. > - the default setting is "Thread view" and "sort by date", which > means a thread started long ago will be displayed along "older" > threads even if it received a new reply recently. Correct. > - that the "thread date" be defined as the oldest or newest thread > message date, depending on a two-option switch in the View/Sort > menu, similar in appearance to the Ascending/Descending switch, > only with "Thread date is oldest message date/Thread date is > newest message date"; It seems to me, (but I may misunderstand you), that it won't only be similar in appearance, but will also do exactly the same thing. Therefore I see no point in it. > I know I've said this already; however, it has received no feedback, > not even an acknowledgement of existence, which makes it hard for > me to decide whether my suggestion is deemed pointless or simply > ignored because a personal argument is developing. In my view, nothing needs changing with the defaults, and the /view/sort/ menu is good as it is. So, it's neither. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Jul 5 09:29:46 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2014 07:29:46 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3170] QuickSearch fights with View/Hide read threads menu option In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3170 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Jul 5 09:31:45 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2014 07:31:45 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3211] Fails to build in Debian hurd-i386 architecture In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3211 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Jul 5 09:32:56 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2014 07:32:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3215] [PATCH] Make wildcard address matching/autocomplete a bit smarter by sorting results in a more human way. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3215 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED Severity|normal |enhancement -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Jul 5 09:34:12 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2014 07:34:12 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3207] make Extended search recursive results more visible In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3207 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|Extended search is not |make Extended search |recursive |recursive results more | |visible -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Jul 5 09:36:53 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2014 07:36:53 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3193] SSL Certificate changed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3193 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #10 from Paul --- Is this still an issue for you with the latest version of libetpan? Re-open if it is. Thanks. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From emilyj at hiwaay.net Sat Jul 5 14:28:56 2014 From: emilyj at hiwaay.net (Emily Jackson) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 07:28:56 -0500 Subject: [Users] Trojan Found in Windows Version of CM Message-ID: <20140705072856.00006fa2@hiwaay.net> My Norton anti-virus claims to have found a Trojan in Claws Mail: Filename: claws-mail-uninstall.exe Threat name: Trojan.ADH.X Full Path: c:\program files (x86)\gnu\claws mail\claws-mail-uninstall.exe ____________________________ Details Unknown Community Usage,  Unknown Age,  Risk High Origin Downloaded from  http://www.claws-mail.org/win32/claws-mail-3.10.1-pkg56.exe Activity Actions performed: Actions performed: 1 ____________________________ On computers as of  Not Available Last Used  7/5/2014 at 6:49:33 AM Startup Item  No Launched  No ____________________________ Unknown It is unknown how many users in the Norton Community have used this file. Unknown This file release is currently not known. High This file risk is high. Threat type: Virus. Programs that infect other programs, files, or areas of a computer by inserting themselves or attaching themselves to that medium. ____________________________ http://www.claws-mail.org/win32/claws-mail-3.10.1-pkg56.exe Downloaded File claws-mail-uninstall.exe Threat name: Trojan.ADH.X from claws-mail.org Source: External Media ____________________________ File Actions File: c:\program files (x86)\gnu\claws mail\ claws-mail-uninstall.exe Removed ____________________________ File Thumbprint - SHA: e6bdfc4f2b88192ebdc8e16b8c9b8c9752d6cc2b571034ea561039e7dc6bfeb4 File Thumbprint - MD5: Not available From himemsys36 at hotmail.com Sat Jul 5 15:07:03 2014 From: himemsys36 at hotmail.com (Tim Zakharov) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 08:07:03 -0500 Subject: [Users] Trojan Found in Windows Version of CM In-Reply-To: <20140705072856.00006fa2@hiwaay.net> References: <20140705072856.00006fa2@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 5 Jul 2014 07:28:56 -0500 Emily Jackson wrote: > My Norton anti-virus claims to have found a Trojan in Claws Mail: > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users Upload the file to virustotal.com for a 2nd opinion. Most likely a false positive, flagged through heuristics and deemed "risky" because it is not a very commonly used file. Once you confirm it's a false positive, report to Symantec/Norton so they whitelist in their definitions. -- Regards, Tim Zakharov From albert.aribaud at free.fr Sat Jul 5 15:12:49 2014 From: albert.aribaud at free.fr (Albert ARIBAUD) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 15:12:49 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: <20140705082006.2fc30048@thewildbeast> References: <20140704115621.65d57bee@lilith> <20140705082006.2fc30048@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140705151249.3ea952a6@lilith> Bonjour Paul, Le Sat, 5 Jul 2014 08:20:06 +0100, Paul a écrit : > On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 11:56:21 +0200 > Albert ARIBAUD wrote: > > > Would it be possible that both of you, André and Paul, stop arguing > > ad personam and keep your public contributions to studying the > > situation objectively and cooperating with other contributors to > > get to a useful conclusion? > > Well of course it's possible. It's also possible to do both, despite > Andre's best efforts. I don't believe i ad personam argumenting, even performed alongside rational argumenting. > > - when threading, "sort by date" has no meaning or usefulness, > > That's wrong. In case it's been missed, this is how I('ve) always > sort(ed) folders and continue to do so, and it works fine for me for > years now. I did not say that when threading, sort by date had no semantics; it obviously has well-defined semantics, as experimenting with CM can show. The problem is, these semantics cannot be inferred from the text of their UI, because of the fundamental ambiguity about what "date" can mean when applied to a thread rather than a message. IOW, date sorting options in View/Sort can only be understood by experimenting (and discovering their actual semantics), not by reading the menu alone (and relying on their ambiguous meaning). My proposal is only to make them unambiguous. > > - the default setting is "Thread view" and "sort by date", which > > means a thread started long ago will be displayed along "older" > > threads even if it received a new reply recently. > > Correct. > > > - that the "thread date" be defined as the oldest or newest thread > > message date, depending on a two-option switch in the View/Sort > > menu, similar in appearance to the Ascending/Descending switch, > > only with "Thread date is oldest message date/Thread date is > > newest message date"; > > It seems to me, (but I may misunderstand you), that it won't only be > similar in appearance, but will also do exactly the same thing. > Therefore I see no point in it. I suspect you are misunderstanding me, then, because the "Thread date is oldest/newest message date" switch will absolutely not do the same thing as the "Ascending/Descending" switch. The "Thread date" switch would define on what key the threads would be sorted, not in what order they would be. IOW, you can sort: - by oldest message, ascending; - by newest message, ascending; - by oldest message, descending; - by newest message, descending. ... and these will produce four different orderings. > > I know I've said this already; however, it has received no feedback, > > not even an acknowledgement of existence, which makes it hard for > > me to decide whether my suggestion is deemed pointless or simply > > ignored because a personal argument is developing. > > In my view, nothing needs changing with the defaults, and > the /view/sort/ menu is good as it is. So, it's neither. Again, note that my proposal explicitly preserves the default behaviour. This leaves the "good as it is" part, which I disagree with, especially regarding the expressed meaning (as opposed, once again, to the actual semantics, which as I said are fine, only badly expressed). That is why I suggest a change in UI only, and only to make sure the user understands the semantics of the date sorting options without having to experiment. However, as Chad points out, this is different from what bug 2939 is about. > Paul Amicalement, -- Albert. From albert.aribaud at free.fr Sat Jul 5 15:24:15 2014 From: albert.aribaud at free.fr (Albert ARIBAUD) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 15:24:15 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default In-Reply-To: <20140705151249.3ea952a6@lilith> References: <20140704115621.65d57bee@lilith> <20140705082006.2fc30048@thewildbeast> <20140705151249.3ea952a6@lilith> Message-ID: <20140705152415.339c0e3f@lilith> Le Sat, 5 Jul 2014 15:12:49 +0200, Albert ARIBAUD a écrit : > I don't believe i ad personam argumenting [...] That should have been "I don't believe *in*...", sorry. Amicalement, -- Albert. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Jul 5 21:41:24 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2014 19:41:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3193] SSL Certificate changed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3193 --- Comment #11 from lbickley --- Have been testing it today on an account that had previously failed - and have not seen the problem re-occur. If it does fail, I'll let you know ;) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From sylpheed at 911networks.com Sat Jul 5 22:40:24 2014 From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 13:40:24 -0700 Subject: [Users] vCalendar plugin Message-ID: <20140705134024.70be530e@frogguski.911networks.com> Hi, I'm using the vCalendar plugin and it created a new folder with vCalendar > Meetings. I see the week with the date and time of the destination (in this case: Easter Time) instead of my timezone: Pacific Time. Do I need to do something to show my timezone (instead of the source)? I don't see anything for the timezone under the Prefence > Plugin > vCalendar -- sknahT vyS From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Sun Jul 6 17:34:11 2014 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 11:34:11 -0400 Subject: [Users] A message wont display, and cannot be removed Message-ID: <20140706113411.00ec5547@ron.cerrocora.org> Received a message; all the is displayed is: This message can't be displayed. This is probably due to a network error. Use 'Network Log' in the Tools menu for more information. Looked at the log and found nothing there, no great matter; what annoys is that the message refuses to be deleted of moved to another folder. How does one deal with such recalcitrant behaviour ? Cheers, Ron. -- Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From andrej at kacian.sk Sun Jul 6 18:50:39 2014 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 18:50:39 +0200 Subject: [Users] A message wont display, and cannot be removed In-Reply-To: <20140706113411.00ec5547@ron.cerrocora.org> References: <20140706113411.00ec5547@ron.cerrocora.org> Message-ID: <20140706185039.06bb7ca3@penny> On Sun, 6 Jul 2014 11:34:11 -0400 "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" wrote: > Received a message; all the is displayed is: > This message can't be displayed. > This is probably due to a network error. > > Use 'Network Log' in the Tools menu for more information. > > Looked at the log and found nothing there, no great matter; what annoys is > that the message refuses to be deleted of moved to another folder. > > How does one deal with such recalcitrant behaviour ? What type of account is this on? POP? IMAP? If it's IMAP, it might be that some other client got to that message before Claws Mail, and either deleted it, or moved it to some other folder. Regards, -- Andrej Kacian From lists at zwoelfelf.org Sun Jul 6 19:05:37 2014 From: lists at zwoelfelf.org (koeart) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 19:05:37 +0200 Subject: [Users] A message wont display, and cannot be removed In-Reply-To: <20140706185039.06bb7ca3@penny> References: <20140706113411.00ec5547@ron.cerrocora.org> <20140706185039.06bb7ca3@penny> Message-ID: <20140706190537.21f5ae86@fenderson> Hi, > > > > Use 'Network Log' in the Tools menu for more information. so, what did it say? I have sometimes the problem that my harddisk is full. Than the message cant be fetched... koeart From colin at colino.net Sun Jul 6 20:28:38 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 20:28:38 +0200 Subject: [Users] Trojan Found in Windows Version of CM In-Reply-To: References: <20140705072856.00006fa2@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <20140706202838.11bcad9b@mike> On 05 July 2014 at 08h07, Tim Zakharov wrote: Hi, > > My Norton anti-virus claims to have found a Trojan in Claws Mail: > > Upload the file to virustotal.com for a 2nd opinion. Most likely a > false positive, flagged through heuristics and deemed "risky" because > it is not a very commonly used file. Once you confirm it's a false > positive, report to Symantec/Norton so they whitelist in their > definitions. And of course report to us if it's a real positive and my GPG signature on the installer matches... I'd be rather worried I could build binaries with a trojan embedded, from my Linux workstation. -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: not available URL: From coffeecupfrank at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 21:36:13 2014 From: coffeecupfrank at gmail.com (Frank Eiche) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 21:36:13 +0200 Subject: [Users] [21:15:11] SMTP< 554 5.7.1 : Helo command rejected: EHLO Unknown exploit In-Reply-To: <000401cf9951$1ea56430$5bf02c90$@gmail.com> References: <000401cf9951$1ea56430$5bf02c90$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001101cf9951$8c8104a0$a5830de0$@gmail.com> Hello all, How do I configure Claws (under Windows 8) so that I can send email via SMTP? Receiving is no problem, but sending a mail appears to be impossible. Both GMX as well as Arcor end up with this error: *** [21:15:11] SMTP< 554 5.7.1 : Helo command rejected: EHLO Unknown exploit ** Fehler bei der SMTP-Sitzung *** Fehler beim Senden der Nachricht: 554 5.7.1 : Helo command rejected: EHLO Unknown exploit *** I tried various options and looked up the FAQ but can't find anything. I am using the same accounts in MS Outlook without any issues. If it is hostname related, "hostname" returns a valid hostname. Any further ideas? Frank -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lists at zwoelfelf.org Sun Jul 6 21:54:57 2014 From: lists at zwoelfelf.org (koeart) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 21:54:57 +0200 Subject: [Users] [21:15:11] SMTP< 554 5.7.1 : Helo command rejected: EHLO Unknown exploit In-Reply-To: <001101cf9951$8c8104a0$a5830de0$@gmail.com> References: <000401cf9951$1ea56430$5bf02c90$@gmail.com> <001101cf9951$8c8104a0$a5830de0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20140706215457.2d5a54e1@fenderson> Hello, > [...] > Both GMX as well as Arcor end up with this error: The SSL Settings are correct (STARTTLS etc): ? And: "IMAP steht Ihnen nur als GMX Premium-Kunde zur Verfügung.". (IMAP is only available for Premium Accounts") I tried it with my gmx.net Account and it didn't work either. But maybe because of the above reason! Regards, koeart From edwardp at linuxmail.org Sun Jul 6 22:30:07 2014 From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 16:30:07 -0400 Subject: [Users] Trojan Found in Windows Version of CM Message-ID: <20140706163007.00000fc4@linuxmail.org> I have Avast anti-virus installed on my dual-boot computers (Linux; and Windows Vista and 7). I did a full scan on the Vista computer (both have Claws Mail 3.10.1 installed on Windows) and Avast found no issues. From emilyj at hiwaay.net Mon Jul 7 00:08:16 2014 From: emilyj at hiwaay.net (Emily Jackson) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 17:08:16 -0500 Subject: [Users] Trojan Found in Windows Version of CM In-Reply-To: References: <20140705072856.00006fa2@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <20140706170816.000064c7@hiwaay.net> On Sat, 5 Jul 2014 08:07:03 -0500 Tim Zakharov wrote: > Upload the file to virustotal.com for a 2nd opinion. Most likely a > false positive, flagged through heuristics and deemed "risky" because > it is not a very commonly used file. Once you confirm it's a false > positive, report to Symantec/Norton so they whitelist in their > definitions. I ran the file through virustotal.com, and 3 of 52 antivirus databases found a problem with the file: Bkav HW32.CDB.E862 Symantec Trojan.ADH.X TrendMicro-HouseCall TROJ_GEN.R047H05G614 From geoff at hughes.net Mon Jul 7 01:44:14 2014 From: geoff at hughes.net (Geoffrey Leach) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2014 16:44:14 -0700 Subject: [Users] claws-mail-plugins.x86_64 contains no files Message-ID: <1404690254.1627.0@puget.mtranch.com> I know that this is strictly off-topic, but should claws-mail-plugins.x86_64 really have no files? From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jul 7 10:34:25 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 09:34:25 +0100 Subject: [Users] claws-mail-plugins.x86_64 contains no files In-Reply-To: <1404690254.1627.0@puget.mtranch.com> References: <1404690254.1627.0@puget.mtranch.com> Message-ID: <20140707093425.4ed0b9c2@thewildbeast> On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 16:44:14 -0700 Geoffrey Leach wrote: > I know that this is strictly off-topic, but should > claws-mail-plugins.x86_64 really have no files? What distro is that? Whichever it is, it's a question for the packager. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Mon Jul 7 10:40:23 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 09:40:23 +0100 Subject: [Users] claws-mail-plugins.x86_64 contains no files In-Reply-To: <20140707093425.4ed0b9c2@thewildbeast> References: <1404690254.1627.0@puget.mtranch.com> <20140707093425.4ed0b9c2@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140707094023.6860ff3b@peterson.fenrir.org.uk> On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 09:34:25 +0100 Paul wrote: > On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 16:44:14 -0700 > Geoffrey Leach wrote: > > > I know that this is strictly off-topic, but should > > claws-mail-plugins.x86_64 really have no files? > > What distro is that? Whichever it is, it's a question for the > packager. Fedora I believe, yes it is empty of files. It's a way of installing all of the plugins despite them being packaged in separate rpms. -- Brian Morrison "I am not young enough to know everything" Oscar Wilde From edwardp at linuxmail.org Mon Jul 7 14:41:24 2014 From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 08:41:24 -0400 Subject: [Users] claws-mail-plugins.x86_64 contains no files In-Reply-To: <20140707094023.6860ff3b@peterson.fenrir.org.uk> References: <1404690254.1627.0@puget.mtranch.com> <20140707093425.4ed0b9c2@thewildbeast> <20140707094023.6860ff3b@peterson.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140707084124.216e3c28@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 09:40:23 +0100 Brian Morrison wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 09:34:25 +0100 > Paul wrote: > > > On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 16:44:14 -0700 > > Geoffrey Leach wrote: > > > > > I know that this is strictly off-topic, but should > > > claws-mail-plugins.x86_64 really have no files? > > > > What distro is that? Whichever it is, it's a question for the > > packager. > > Fedora I believe, yes it is empty of files. It's a way of installing > all of the plugins despite them being packaged in separate rpms. Some distros call this a 'meta-package' that, once selected for installation, will automatically cause other packages to be installed. For example, selecting package 'lxde' (desktop environment) for installation, will cause the LXDE desktop environment to be installed on the system, if it's not already installed. Your package manager should automatically select the other relevant packages for installation when a meta-package such as this is selected for installation. -- Sent using Claws Mail - http://www.claws-mail.org/ From jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com Mon Jul 7 18:36:42 2014 From: jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com (Jeremy Schneider) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 12:36:42 -0400 Subject: [Users] localized_date_fmt Message-ID: Some years ago, it seems the idea of a localized date_fmt for reply/forward templates was proposed. http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.sylpheed.claws.general/48548 Was this implemented yet? At the moment I've got 3.9.1 on ubuntu and 3.9.3 on windows - I know I'm a little out of date but I don't see a way to use a local timezone in my versions. I would find this useful, because for most of the people I regularly correspond with, the mail server sets the timezone in the date header to the mail server's own location rather than the sender's actual timezone - so the timezone in the date header isn't really meaningful. It makes my replies look very strange when I'm responding to someone who sits at the desk next to me, and my quoted email has a timezone that's several hours off. It could be viewed as a broken mail server setup, or perhaps a security feature to hide location information about senders. Regardless, I can't control the server behavior - I can only control how my own mail client behaves. -Jeremy -- http://about.me/jeremy_schneider -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Frank ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 21:54:57 +0200 From: koeart To: users at lists.claws-mail.org Subject: Re: [Users] [21:15:11] SMTP< 554 5.7.1 : Helo command rejected: EHLO Unknown exploit Message-ID: <20140706215457.2d5a54e1 at fenderson> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hello, > [...] > Both GMX as well as Arcor end up with this error: The SSL Settings are correct (STARTTLS etc): ? And: "IMAP steht Ihnen nur als GMX Premium-Kunde zur Verfügung.". (IMAP is only available for Premium Accounts") I tried it with my gmx.net Account and it didn't work either. But maybe because of the above reason! Regards, koeart ------------------------------ -----Original Message----- From: Users [mailto:users-bounces at lists.claws-mail.org] On Behalf Of users-request at lists.claws-mail.org Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 10:34 AM To: users at lists.claws-mail.org Subject: Users Digest, Vol 35, Issue 13 Send Users mailing list submissions to users at lists.claws-mail.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to users-request at lists.claws-mail.org You can reach the person managing the list at users-owner at lists.claws-mail.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. A message wont display, and cannot be removed (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI) 2. Re: A message wont display, and cannot be removed (Andrej Kacian) 3. Re: A message wont display, and cannot be removed (koeart) 4. Re: Trojan Found in Windows Version of CM (Colin Leroy) 5. [21:15:11] SMTP< 554 5.7.1 : Helo command rejected: EHLO Unknown exploit (Frank Eiche) 6. Re: [21:15:11] SMTP< 554 5.7.1 : Helo command rejected: EHLO Unknown exploit (koeart) 7. Re: Trojan Found in Windows Version of CM (edwardp at linuxmail.org) 8. Re: Trojan Found in Windows Version of CM (Emily Jackson) 9. claws-mail-plugins.x86_64 contains no files (Geoffrey Leach) 10. Re: claws-mail-plugins.x86_64 contains no files (Paul) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 11:34:11 -0400 From: "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" To: "users at lists.claws-mail.org" Subject: [Users] A message wont display, and cannot be removed Message-ID: <20140706113411.00ec5547 at ron.cerrocora.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Received a message; all the is displayed is: This message can't be displayed. This is probably due to a network error. Use 'Network Log' in the Tools menu for more information. Looked at the log and found nothing there, no great matter; what annoys is that the message refuses to be deleted of moved to another folder. How does one deal with such recalcitrant behaviour ? Cheers, Ron. -- Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 18:50:39 +0200 From: Andrej Kacian To: users at lists.claws-mail.org Subject: Re: [Users] A message wont display, and cannot be removed Message-ID: <20140706185039.06bb7ca3 at penny> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 6 Jul 2014 11:34:11 -0400 "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" wrote: > Received a message; all the is displayed is: > This message can't be displayed. > This is probably due to a network error. > > Use 'Network Log' in the Tools menu for more information. > > Looked at the log and found nothing there, no great matter; what > annoys is that the message refuses to be deleted of moved to another folder. > > How does one deal with such recalcitrant behaviour ? What type of account is this on? POP? IMAP? If it's IMAP, it might be that some other client got to that message before Claws Mail, and either deleted it, or moved it to some other folder. Regards, -- Andrej Kacian ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 19:05:37 +0200 From: koeart To: users at lists.claws-mail.org Subject: Re: [Users] A message wont display, and cannot be removed Message-ID: <20140706190537.21f5ae86 at fenderson> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi, > > > > Use 'Network Log' in the Tools menu for more information. so, what did it say? I have sometimes the problem that my harddisk is full. Than the message cant be fetched... koeart ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 20:28:38 +0200 From: Colin Leroy To: users at lists.claws-mail.org Subject: Re: [Users] Trojan Found in Windows Version of CM Message-ID: <20140706202838.11bcad9b at mike> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On 05 July 2014 at 08h07, Tim Zakharov wrote: Hi, > > My Norton anti-virus claims to have found a Trojan in Claws Mail: > > Upload the file to virustotal.com for a 2nd opinion. Most likely a > false positive, flagged through heuristics and deemed "risky" because > it is not a very commonly used file. Once you confirm it's a false > positive, report to Symantec/Norton so they whitelist in their > definitions. And of course report to us if it's a real positive and my GPG signature on the installer matches... I'd be rather worried I could build binaries with a trojan embedded, from my Linux workstation. -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: not available URL: ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 21:36:13 +0200 From: "Frank Eiche" To: Subject: [Users] [21:15:11] SMTP< 554 5.7.1 : Helo command rejected: EHLO Unknown exploit Message-ID: <001101cf9951$8c8104a0$a5830de0$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hello all, How do I configure Claws (under Windows 8) so that I can send email via SMTP? Receiving is no problem, but sending a mail appears to be impossible. Both GMX as well as Arcor end up with this error: *** [21:15:11] SMTP< 554 5.7.1 : Helo command rejected: EHLO Unknown exploit ** Fehler bei der SMTP-Sitzung *** Fehler beim Senden der Nachricht: 554 5.7.1 : Helo command rejected: EHLO Unknown exploit *** I tried various options and looked up the FAQ but can't find anything. I am using the same accounts in MS Outlook without any issues. If it is hostname related, "hostname" returns a valid hostname. Any further ideas? Frank -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 21:54:57 +0200 From: koeart To: users at lists.claws-mail.org Subject: Re: [Users] [21:15:11] SMTP< 554 5.7.1 : Helo command rejected: EHLO Unknown exploit Message-ID: <20140706215457.2d5a54e1 at fenderson> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hello, > [...] > Both GMX as well as Arcor end up with this error: The SSL Settings are correct (STARTTLS etc): ? And: "IMAP steht Ihnen nur als GMX Premium-Kunde zur Verfügung.". (IMAP is only available for Premium Accounts") I tried it with my gmx.net Account and it didn't work either. But maybe because of the above reason! Regards, koeart ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 16:30:07 -0400 From: To: users at lists.claws-mail.org Subject: Re: [Users] Trojan Found in Windows Version of CM Message-ID: <20140706163007.00000fc4 at linuxmail.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I have Avast anti-virus installed on my dual-boot computers (Linux; and Windows Vista and 7). I did a full scan on the Vista computer (both have Claws Mail 3.10.1 installed on Windows) and Avast found no issues. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 17:08:16 -0500 From: Emily Jackson To: users at lists.claws-mail.org Subject: Re: [Users] Trojan Found in Windows Version of CM Message-ID: <20140706170816.000064c7 at hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 5 Jul 2014 08:07:03 -0500 Tim Zakharov wrote: > Upload the file to virustotal.com for a 2nd opinion. Most likely a > false positive, flagged through heuristics and deemed "risky" because > it is not a very commonly used file. Once you confirm it's a false > positive, report to Symantec/Norton so they whitelist in their > definitions. I ran the file through virustotal.com, and 3 of 52 antivirus databases found a problem with the file: Bkav HW32.CDB.E862 Symantec Trojan.ADH.X TrendMicro-HouseCall TROJ_GEN.R047H05G614 ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2014 16:44:14 -0700 From: Geoffrey Leach To: "users at lists.claws-mail.org" Subject: [Users] claws-mail-plugins.x86_64 contains no files Message-ID: <1404690254.1627.0 at puget.mtranch.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I know that this is strictly off-topic, but should claws-mail-plugins.x86_64 really have no files? ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 09:34:25 +0100 From: Paul To: users at lists.claws-mail.org Subject: Re: [Users] claws-mail-plugins.x86_64 contains no files Message-ID: <20140707093425.4ed0b9c2 at thewildbeast> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 16:44:14 -0700 Geoffrey Leach wrote: > I know that this is strictly off-topic, but should > claws-mail-plugins.x86_64 really have no files? What distro is that? Whichever it is, it's a question for the packager. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users at lists.claws-mail.org http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users ------------------------------ End of Users Digest, Vol 35, Issue 13 ************************************* From geoff at hughes.net Tue Jul 8 18:12:34 2014 From: geoff at hughes.net (Geoffrey Leach) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 09:12:34 -0700 Subject: [Users] Getting claws-mail to notice new messages Message-ID: <1404835954.1597.1@puget.mtranch.com> I have a mail processing environment that fetches mail and distributes it to folders in the mail environment. Claws-mail does not notice these new files, even when sitting on that folder. So, if I have claws looking at the inbox folder, and new mail arrives, claws does not notice this unless I move to another folder and then move back to inbox. An solution for me would be to have the "check for new mail every" preference setting scan the folders as well. Any way to accomplish this in the configuration? BTW, using claws' filtering mechanism does not appear to be practical. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jul 8 18:29:54 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 17:29:54 +0100 Subject: [Users] Getting claws-mail to notice new messages In-Reply-To: <1404835954.1597.1@puget.mtranch.com> References: <1404835954.1597.1@puget.mtranch.com> Message-ID: <20140708172954.4308ace5@thewildbeast> On 08-Jul-14 09:12:+0100 Geoffrey Leach wrote: > An solution for me would be to have the "check for new mail every" > preference setting scan the folders as well. Any way to accomplish > this in the configuration? Use the option 'update all local folders' on the /Mail Handling/Receiving page of the general prefs. This works together with the folder property, 'scan for new mail', so set that for the folders that you want scanned. > BTW, using claws' filtering mechanism does not appear to be > practical. How come? What do you mean? with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From 1 at victoriasjourney.com Wed Jul 9 19:36:49 2014 From: 1 at victoriasjourney.com (1 at victoriasjourney.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 13:36:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Users] Missing spell checker [Claws Mail, enchant, aspell, CentOS 6.5] Message-ID: <104184373.81602.1404927409581.open-xchange@oxuslxltgw04.lxa.perfora.net> Claws Mail 3.10.1 compiled from binary on amd 64-bit CentOS 6.5 Final linux system. I installed Claws Mail binary, and enchant and aspell (+ English dictionary), all in my local ($HOME ; i.e. ~/) directories, as I do not have root access (corporate environment). Claws (configured for IMAP4) runs well, BUT I cannot get the spell checker to install (like I do at home). Under Configuration:Preferences:Compose there are only the {Writing | Templates | Wrapping} panels. Relevant to this issue, the enchant binary is installed at ~/Linux/apps/enchant/bin/enchant and the aspell binary is at ~/Linux/apps/aspell/bin/aspell. Claws is at ~/Linux/apps/Claws/bin/claws-mail. I set the path for each, e.g. export PATH=$PATH:/home/vstuart/Linux/apps/enchant/bin/ but the which command gives the following: vstuart:$ which aspell ~/Linux/apps/aspell/bin/aspell vstuart:$ which enchant /usr/bin/enchant vstuart:$ I am at a loss: How can I resolve this issue? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 1 at victoriasjourney.com Wed Jul 9 19:42:57 2014 From: 1 at victoriasjourney.com (1 at victoriasjourney.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 13:42:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Users] Missing spell checker [Claws Mail, enchant, aspell, CentOS 6.5] In-Reply-To: <104184373.81602.1404927409581.open-xchange@oxuslxltgw04.lxa.perfora.net> References: <104184373.81602.1404927409581.open-xchange@oxuslxltgw04.lxa.perfora.net> Message-ID: <1061981239.90214.1404927777611.open-xchange@oxuslxltgw02.lxa.perfora.net> Sorry; re: vstuart:$ which enchant /usr/bin/enchant I meant to add that another version of enchant was previously installed at the root location shown above. If I can configure Claws Mail (spell checker) to work using either enchant binary (or other solution), that would be greatly appreciated. > On July 9, 2014 at 1:36 PM "1 at victoriasjourney.com" <1 at victoriasjourney.com> wrote: > > Claws Mail 3.10.1 compiled from binary on amd 64-bit CentOS 6.5 Final linux system. > > I installed Claws Mail binary, and enchant and aspell (+ English dictionary), all in my local ($HOME ; i.e. ~/) directories, as I do not have root > access (corporate environment). > > Claws (configured for IMAP4) runs well, BUT I cannot get the spell checker to install (like I do at home). Under Configuration:Preferences:Compose > there are only the {Writing | Templates | Wrapping} panels. > > Relevant to this issue, the enchant binary is installed at > > ~/Linux/apps/enchant/bin/enchant > > and the aspell binary is at > > ~/Linux/apps/aspell/bin/aspell. > > Claws is at > > ~/Linux/apps/Claws/bin/claws-mail. > > I set the path for each, e.g. > > export PATH=$PATH:/home/vstuart/Linux/apps/enchant/bin/ > > but the which command gives the following: > > vstuart:$ which aspell > ~/Linux/apps/aspell/bin/aspell > > vstuart:$ which enchant > /usr/bin/enchant > > I am at a loss: How can I resolve this issue? > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From CAE at eslrahc.com Wed Jul 9 20:18:01 2014 From: CAE at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [Users] Missing spell checker [Claws Mail, enchant, aspell, CentOS 6.5] In-Reply-To: <1061981239.90214.1404927777611.open-xchange@oxuslxltgw02.lxa.perfora.net> References: <104184373.81602.1404927409581.open-xchange@oxuslxltgw04.lxa.perfora.net> <1061981239.90214.1404927777611.open-xchange@oxuslxltgw02.lxa.perfora.net> Message-ID: <20140709141801.5123613c@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 13:42:57 -0400 (EDT) 1 at victoriasjourney.com wrote: > vstuart:$ which enchant > /usr/bin/enchant > > I meant to add that another version of enchant was previously > installed at the root location shown above. If I can configure Claws > Mail (spell checker) to work using either enchant binary (or other > solution), that would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > On July 9, 2014 at 1:36 PM "1 at victoriasjourney.com" > > <1 at victoriasjourney.com> wrote: > > > > Claws Mail 3.10.1 compiled from binary on amd 64-bit CentOS 6.5 > > Final linux system. > > > > I installed Claws Mail binary, and enchant and aspell (+ English > > dictionary), all in my local ($HOME ; i.e. ~/) directories, as I do > > not have root access (corporate environment). > > > > Claws (configured for IMAP4) runs well, BUT I cannot get the spell > > checker to install (like I do at home). Under > > Configuration:Preferences:Compose there are only the {Writing | > > Templates | Wrapping} panels Do you have enchant-devel installed? If not claws will not build with "spell check" enabled. Another possibility, I am not that familiar with CentOS, but have they, as have many other distros, switched to hunspell instead of aspell? 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From 1 at victoriasjourney.com Wed Jul 9 23:03:02 2014 From: 1 at victoriasjourney.com (1 at victoriasjourney.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 17:03:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Users] Missing spell checker [Claws Mail, enchant, aspell, CentOS 6.5] In-Reply-To: <20140709141801.5123613c@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> References: <104184373.81602.1404927409581.open-xchange@oxuslxltgw04.lxa.perfora.net> <1061981239.90214.1404927777611.open-xchange@oxuslxltgw02.lxa.perfora.net> <20140709141801.5123613c@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> Message-ID: <1820818195.110571.1404939782400.open-xchange@oxuslxltgw09.lxa.perfora.net> Thank you for your reply. > Do you have enchant-devel installed? > If not claws will not build with "spell check" enabled. No, I do not. > Another possibility, I am not that familiar with CentOS, but have they, > as have many other distros, switched to hunspell instead of aspell? hunspell was previously installed, prior to all of this: vstuart:$ whereis hunspell hunspell: /usr/bin/hunspell /usr/share/man/man4/hunspell.4.gz /usr/share/man/man1/hunspell.1.gz but Claws did not complile using that, either, so I am missing something critical, somewhere (files and/or method). If I extract the enchant-devel rpm (in the enchant folder), it just adds a usr folder. Q: If I go that approach, do I recompile enchant, then recompile Claws? Will the Claws recompile screw up my already working (configured/tweaked) Claws Mail installation? Are there any paths / switches thjat I need to include during those compiles (or add to the environment path, after). Sorry for the questions: I am a long time (i.e. sudo access) Ubuntu user at home; CentOS / non-root installations are both rather new to me. Again, appreciated! Victoria :-) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 1 at victoriasjourney.com Wed Jul 9 23:04:22 2014 From: 1 at victoriasjourney.com (1 at victoriasjourney.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 17:04:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Users] Missing spell checker [Claws Mail, enchant, aspell, CentOS 6.5] Message-ID: <1403590961.110675.1404939862352.open-xchange@oxuslxltgw09.lxa.perfora.net> Thank you for your reply. > Do you have enchant-devel installed? > If not claws will not build with "spell check" enabled. No, I do not. > Another possibility, I am not that familiar with CentOS, but have they, > as have many other distros, switched to hunspell instead of aspell? hunspell was previously installed, prior to all of this: vstuart:$ whereis hunspell hunspell: /usr/bin/hunspell /usr/share/man/man4/hunspell.4.gz /usr/share/man/man1/hunspell.1.gz but Claws did not complile using that, either, so I am missing something critical, somewhere (files and/or method). If I extract the enchant-devel rpm (in the enchant folder), it just adds a usr folder. Q: If I go that approach, do I recompile enchant, then recompile Claws? Will the Claws recompile screw up my already working (configured/tweaked) Claws Mail installation? Are there any paths / switches thjat I need to include during those compiles (or add to the environment path, after). Sorry for the questions: I am a long time (i.e. sudo access) Ubuntu user at home; CentOS / non-root installations are both rather new to me. Again, appreciated! Victoria :-) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 9 23:09:09 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 21:09:09 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3222] New: failure to respond to SSL Certificate change results in UI hang Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3222 Bug ID: 3222 Summary: failure to respond to SSL Certificate change results in UI hang Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: POP3 Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: pf at pfortin.com Earlier today, I updated to 3.10.1-121 and fired up 2 instances as usual. Then, after ~1.5 hours away from system, came back to dialogs about new gmail SSL certificates, so I accepted. On one instance, CM status bar is now showing: "Account '': Connecting to POP3 server: pop.gmail.com:995..." The UI is unresponsive. Connected strace and get lots of output as I move the mouse across the CM window; but CM still hung... Oh GREAT!!! Now, the other instance is hung on a gmail account... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 9 23:25:51 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 21:25:51 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3222] failure to respond to SSL Certificate change results in UI hang In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3222 --- Comment #1 from Pierre Fortin --- Interesting... restarted one instance, got another SSL certificate dialog for a gmail account and CM locked up again even though I Acked it within a few seconds... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 9 23:53:43 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 21:53:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3222] failure to respond to SSL Certificate change results in UI hang In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3222 --- Comment #2 from trinsnet at gmail.com --- I've got 3.10.1-2 on Debian Testing (Jessie) and I'm getting some GMail SSL certificate change notifications similar to yours. If I accept the new cert it works fine. If I am away from the computer and I accept the cert when I get back then I get errors because the POP connection timed out. After the errors are cleared up it checks other accounts, but it does not come back to GMail (I must check it manually). I am not having any trouble with hanging/crashing. I only run one instance at a time. Maybe that information can assist you in testing (update your application). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 10 00:01:23 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 22:01:23 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3222] failure to respond to SSL Certificate change results in UI hang In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3222 --- Comment #3 from trinsnet at gmail.com --- (In reply to comment #2) > I've got 3.10.1-2 on Debian Testing (Jessie) and I'm getting some GMail SSL > certificate change notifications similar to yours. If I accept the new cert > it works fine. If I am away from the computer and I accept the cert when I > get back then I get errors because the POP connection timed out. After the > errors are cleared up it checks other accounts, but it does not come back to > GMail (I must check it manually). > > I am not having any trouble with hanging/crashing. I only run one instance > at a time. > > Maybe that information can assist you in testing (update your application). They seem to be switching between these two certs (almost every time I check my mail I get prompted to save the 'new' cert): http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-080714-062305pm.php http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-080714-060328pm.php -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From CAE at eslrahc.com Thu Jul 10 00:16:46 2014 From: CAE at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 18:16:46 -0400 Subject: [Users] Missing spell checker [Claws Mail, enchant, aspell, CentOS 6.5] In-Reply-To: <1403590961.110675.1404939862352.open-xchange@oxuslxltgw09.lxa.perfora.net> References: <1403590961.110675.1404939862352.open-xchange@oxuslxltgw09.lxa.perfora.net> Message-ID: <20140709181646.2e64ef44@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 17:04:22 -0400 (EDT) 1 at victoriasjourney.com wrote: > > Do you have enchant-devel installed? > > If not claws will not build with "spell check" enabled. > > No, I do not. > > > Another possibility, I am not that familiar with CentOS, but have > > they, as have many other distros, switched to hunspell instead of > > aspell? > > hunspell was previously installed, prior to all of this: > > > vstuart:$ whereis hunspell > hunspell: /usr/bin/hunspell /usr/share/man/man4/hunspell.4.gz /usr/share/man/man1/hunspell.1.gz > > > > but Claws did not complile using that, either, so I am missing > something critical, somewhere (files and/or method). > > > > If I extract the enchant-devel rpm (in the enchant folder), it just > adds a usr folder. Q: If I go that approach, do I recompile enchant, > then recompile Claws? Will the Claws recompile screw up my already > working (configured/tweaked) Claws Mail installation? Are there any > paths / switches thjat I need to include during those compiles (or > add to the environment path, after). > > > > Sorry for the questions: I am a long time (i.e. sudo access) Ubuntu > user at home; CentOS / non-root installations are both rather new to > me. It's not doing non-root installation, you have to su to root to install packages. CentOS uses yum as for their package management. Basic to install a package su -c yum install enchant-devel you will be asked for root's password and then the package will be installed. You can also install|update using rpm directly giving the full path to the rpm su to root and rpm -ivh http://mirrors.securehost.com/centos/7.0.1406/os/x86_64/Packages/enchant-devel-1.6.0-8.el7.x86_64.rpm or if you have already dled the rpm su to root and rpm -ivh /home///enchant-devel*.rpm You might also want to look at the yum "Managing Software with yum" http://www.centos.org/docs/4/html/yum/ Charles -- What's love but a second-hand emotion? -- Tina Turner ---------------------- Mageia release 5 (Cauldron) for x86_64$ On SuperSize....http://www.eslrahc.com Registered Linux user #182463 3.15.2-server-2.mga5 x86_64 ---------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 10 00:19:31 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 22:19:31 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3222] failure to respond to SSL Certificate change results in UI hang In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3222 --- Comment #4 from trinsnet at gmail.com --- (In reply to comment #2) > I've got 3.10.1-2 on Debian Testing (Jessie) and I'm getting some GMail SSL > certificate change notifications similar to yours. If I accept the new cert > it works fine. If I am away from the computer and I accept the cert when I > get back then I get errors because the POP connection timed out. After the > errors are cleared up it checks other accounts, but it does not come back to > GMail (I must check it manually). > > I am not having any trouble with hanging/crashing. I only run one instance > at a time. > > Maybe that information can assist you in testing (update your application). veuillez m’excuser... there is no need to update your application. >< -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 10 00:41:11 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 22:41:11 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3222] failure to respond to SSL Certificate change results in UI hang In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3222 --- Comment #5 from Pierre Fortin --- Created attachment 1414 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1414&action=edit gmail certs I captured this screen shot of both my CM instances SSL certs. I'm not familiar with the rules for handling these; but I noticed that the toggling certs bounce back and forth between 2 specific certs. Closer inspection shows that one is set to expire 09/01/14 and the other 09/29/14... When a "new" cert's expiration date is sooner, would it be acceptable to ignore it and keep the current, longer lasting one? Probably a dumb question... :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 10 01:06:28 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 23:06:28 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3222] failure to respond to SSL Certificate change results in UI hang In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3222 --- Comment #6 from Charles A Edwards --- You know you that under SSL in the Account setting you can set it to automatically accept Valid but unknown certificates. I have a little used gmail account set-up as pop3 Not imap and I have never had an issue with the with the certificates with clawse set to "accept Valid but unknown certificates". Charles -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From 1 at victoriasjourney.com Thu Jul 10 01:09:05 2014 From: 1 at victoriasjourney.com (1 at victoriasjourney.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 19:09:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Users] Missing spell checker [Claws Mail, enchant, aspell, CentOS 6.5] In-Reply-To: <20140709181646.2e64ef44@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> References: <1403590961.110675.1404939862352.open-xchange@oxuslxltgw09.lxa.perfora.net> <20140709181646.2e64ef44@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> Message-ID: <1259926518.118050.1404947345068.open-xchange@oxuslxltgw09.lxa.perfora.net> Sorry: you misunderstand my situation. At work, I do not have sudo (yum) privileges, so I have to install programs in my home directory using ./configure --prefix=$HOME/... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If spell checking is the only thing you are really missing you could set your preferences to use an external editor and choose an installed editor that Does have spell check. Configuration/Writing/Editing Configuration/Message View/External Programs Charles -- Air pollution is really making us pay through the nose. ---------------------- Mageia release 5 (Cauldron) for x86_64$ On SuperSize....http://www.eslrahc.com Registered Linux user #182463 3.15.2-server-2.mga5 x86_64 ---------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 10 03:40:19 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 01:40:19 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3222] failure to respond to SSL Certificate change results in UI hang In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3222 --- Comment #7 from trinsnet at gmail.com --- (In reply to comment #6) > You know you that under SSL in the Account setting you can set it to > automatically > accept Valid but unknown certificates. > > I have a little used gmail account set-up as pop3 Not imap and I have never > had an issue with the with the certificates with clawse set to "accept Valid > but unknown certificates". > > Charles You can set 'accept valid but unknown certs' as Charles recommends above or you can change the server to pop.googlemail.com - it seems to have a 'stable' cert. Note that if you change the server then your mail will redownload (assuming it is still on the server) and you'll have some de-duplication to do. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 10 04:18:26 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 02:18:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3222] failure to respond to SSL Certificate change results in UI hang In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3222 --- Comment #8 from trinsnet at gmail.com --- (In reply to comment #7) > (In reply to comment #6) > > You know you that under SSL in the Account setting you can set it to > > automatically > > accept Valid but unknown certificates. > > > > I have a little used gmail account set-up as pop3 Not imap and I have never > > had an issue with the with the certificates with clawse set to "accept Valid > > but unknown certificates". > > > > Charles > > You can set 'accept valid but unknown certs' as Charles recommends above or > you can change the server to pop.googlemail.com - it seems to have a > 'stable' cert. > Note that if you change the server then your mail will redownload (assuming > it is still on the server) and you'll have some de-duplication to do. I'm getting the same problem with pop.googlemail.com now -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From gheskett at wdtv.com Thu Jul 10 04:46:48 2014 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 22:46:48 -0400 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3222] failure to respond to SSL Certificate change results in UI hang In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201407092246.48721.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Wednesday 09 July 2014 22:18:26 noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk did opine And Gene did reply: > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3222 > > --- Comment #8 from trinsnet at gmail.com --- > (In reply to comment #7) > > > (In reply to comment #6) > > > > > You know you that under SSL in the Account setting you can set it > > > to automatically > > > accept Valid but unknown certificates. > > > > > > I have a little used gmail account set-up as pop3 Not imap and I > > > have never had an issue with the with the certificates with clawse > > > set to "accept Valid but unknown certificates". > > > > > > Charles > > > > You can set 'accept valid but unknown certs' as Charles recommends > > above or you can change the server to pop.googlemail.com - it seems > > to have a 'stable' cert. > > Note that if you change the server then your mail will redownload > > (assuming it is still on the server) and you'll have some > > de-duplication to do. > > I'm getting the same problem with pop.googlemail.com now I wonder if thats a different machine from pop.gmail.com? I ask because I just checked my fetchmail.log, which shows that fetchmail is pulling from there with no problems. I don't use it much and the message it just pulled is probably from some very low traffic list I forgot to move to another server. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 10 08:04:17 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 06:04:17 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3173] quick search ignores trailing blank In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3173 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 10 08:05:55 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 06:05:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3163] claws-mail hangs on "Bogofilter: filtering messages..." In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3163 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME --- Comment #3 from Paul --- no response, closing now -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 10 10:58:41 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 08:58:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3223] New: Scrollbar always visible in folder list Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3223 Bug ID: 3223 Summary: Scrollbar always visible in folder list Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Folder List Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: kmhzsem at gmx.com The vertical scrollbar is always visible in the folder list, even when the folder list does not reach the end of the window. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 10 11:04:18 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 09:04:18 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3223] Scrollbar always visible in folder list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3223 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Paul --- Look for 'folderview_vscrollbar_policy' here: http://www.claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html#adv_hidden -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 10 11:28:21 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 09:28:21 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3223] Scrollbar always visible in folder list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3223 --- Comment #2 from Dimitrios Semitsoglou-Tsiapos --- (In reply to comment #1) > Look for 'folderview_vscrollbar_policy' here: > http://www.claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html#adv_hidden I wasn't aware of these options! Sorry and thank you. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 10 11:37:03 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 09:37:03 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3224] New: Gentoo ebuilds default to +imap Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3224 Bug ID: 3224 Summary: Gentoo ebuilds default to +imap Classification: Unclassified Product: Website Version: unspecified Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: minor Priority: P3 Component: General Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: kmhzsem at gmx.com All claws-mail gentoo ebuilds have imap enabled by default: http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/mail-client/claws-mail/ Therefore the imap support warning in http://www.claws-mail.org/downloads.php?section=downloads seems to no longer apply. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 10 11:48:52 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 09:48:52 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3224] Gentoo ebuilds default to +imap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3224 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #1 from Paul --- thanks! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 10 13:03:23 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:03:23 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3163] claws-mail hangs on "Bogofilter: filtering messages..." In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3163 --- Comment #4 from Hugh Hyatt --- Not sure how I missed the request for a backtrace. In any case, I'm happy to have it closed as the problem never reoccurred and was probably irreproducible. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 10 16:03:07 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:03:07 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3222] failure to respond to SSL Certificate change results in UI hang In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3222 --- Comment #9 from Pierre Fortin --- OK... it's possible an SSL dialog was on another desktop... :P Based on the ridiculous number of dialogs I'm having to accept, I think that is most likely what initially happened... Anyway, the gmail cert issue is driving me nuts because I have multiple gmail accounts on each CM instance and each account goes through this... :P :P Ah... Thanks Charles! That seems to have stopped the issue... I've unchecked one account to see if the cert changes have stopped... Questions: "Automatically accept unknown valid SSL certificates" seems oxymoronic... In the screen shot, they appear valid and 'known' (however that might be defined)... Could this be better worded? Maybe: "Automatically accept valid SSL certificates" -- what's "unknown" about these gmail certs? >From comment 5: When a "new" cert's expiration date is sooner, would it be acceptable[1] to ignore it and keep the current, longer lasting one? [without requiring an option?] [1] Tried reading part of RFC5426; but I don't have enough experience with certs to grok it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 10 16:09:22 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:09:22 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3222] failure to respond to SSL Certificate change results in UI hang In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3222 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From pf at pfortin.com Thu Jul 10 16:14:46 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 10:14:46 -0400 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3222] failure to respond to SSL Certificate change results in UI hang In-Reply-To: <201407092246.48721.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201407092246.48721.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <20140710101446.7b44652e@pfortin.com> On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 22:46:48 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: >On Wednesday 09 July 2014 22:18:26 noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk did opine >And Gene did reply: >> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3222 >> >> --- Comment #8 from trinsnet at gmail.com --- >> (In reply to comment #7) >> >> > (In reply to comment #6) >> > >> > > You know you that under SSL in the Account setting you can set it >> > > to automatically >> > > accept Valid but unknown certificates. >> > > >> > > I have a little used gmail account set-up as pop3 Not imap and I >> > > have never had an issue with the with the certificates with clawse >> > > set to "accept Valid but unknown certificates". >> > > >> > > Charles >> > >> > You can set 'accept valid but unknown certs' as Charles recommends >> > above or you can change the server to pop.googlemail.com - it seems >> > to have a 'stable' cert. >> > Note that if you change the server then your mail will redownload >> > (assuming it is still on the server) and you'll have some >> > de-duplication to do. >> >> I'm getting the same problem with pop.googlemail.com now > >I wonder if thats a different machine from pop.gmail.com? > >I ask because I just checked my fetchmail.log, which shows that >fetchmail is pulling from there with no problems. I don't use it much >and the message it just pulled is probably from some very low traffic >list I forgot to move to another server. > >Cheers, Gene Heskett Dumb question: are these certs only for sending; or both directions? If only used on send; has anyone tried refusing the one of shortest|longest duration[1] and sending a test message? [1] expiration: 09/01/14 v. 09/29/14 Also wondering if there's a potential race condition when anyone tries to send just as a cert changes. Regards, Pierre PS Unchecked one a my gmail accounts a few moments ago, and not seeing the dialogs, so maybe gmail has stopped it for now... From barry at python.org Thu Jul 10 19:39:43 2014 From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:39:43 -0400 Subject: [Users] Help with Python compose_any script Message-ID: <20140710133943.76d643c6@anarchist.wooz.org> I have a nice compose_any Python script which looks at the To: and CC: headers, analyzes the recipient address and selects an appropriate From header in the composition window. E.g. if the recipient is in the python.org domain, then it selects my python.org email address; likewise for debian.org and so on. This worked great when I essentially had one outgoing SMTP because regardless of the From contents, Claws would always choose the correct outgoing server via that account (the only one possible, as all my SMTP-only accounts share the same MTA settings). Now however I want to send work related emails through my corporate SMTP and everything else through the original SMTP. Setting the From header, e.g. via: clawsmail.compose_window.set_from(choice) does not select the account that the message is supposed to be sent from, and thus the correct SMTP is not chosen. I'm at a bit of a loss as to whether this is even possible, let alone the best way to do it. Does it involve calling clawsmail.compose_window.get_account_selection() and then Doing Something with that via Gtk? Does anybody have an example of such a thing, or hints as to the best approach? Right now my plugin is pretty hardcoded to my personal email addresses, but I could probably generalize it and donate it as a Python script example, if anybody is interested. Cheers, -Barry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 10 20:06:25 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 19:06:25 +0100 Subject: [Users] Help with Python compose_any script In-Reply-To: <20140710133943.76d643c6@anarchist.wooz.org> References: <20140710133943.76d643c6@anarchist.wooz.org> Message-ID: <20140710190625.3e37b15f@thewildbeast> On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:39:43 -0400 Barry Warsaw wrote: > Now however I want to send work related emails through my corporate > SMTP and everything else through the original SMTP. Setting the > From header, e.g. via: > > clawsmail.compose_window.set_from(choice) > > does not select the account that the message is supposed to be sent > from, and thus the correct SMTP is not chosen. I don't use the plugin but looking at the provided examples, using clawsmail.ComposeWindow("barry at python.org") will select the account associated with the provided email address. Maybe this will help you?? with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From barry at python.org Thu Jul 10 20:50:25 2014 From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:50:25 -0400 Subject: [Users] Help with Python compose_any script References: <20140710133943.76d643c6@anarchist.wooz.org> <20140710190625.3e37b15f@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140710145025.0f388ca8@anarchist.wooz.org> On Jul 10, 2014, at 07:06 PM, Paul wrote: >I don't use the plugin but looking at the provided examples, using > >clawsmail.ComposeWindow("barry at python.org") > >will select the account associated with the provided email address. > >Maybe this will help you?? It's promising, thanks! I get two composition windows in some -- but not all -- cases; I'm not yet sure why though. It's a good clue. :) Cheers, -Barry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: From berndth at gmx.de Thu Jul 10 21:27:28 2014 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 21:27:28 +0200 Subject: [Users] Help with Python compose_any script In-Reply-To: <20140710133943.76d643c6@anarchist.wooz.org> References: <20140710133943.76d643c6@anarchist.wooz.org> Message-ID: <20140710212728.364de3d0@wodan> Hallo Barry, On Do, 10.07.2014 13:39, Barry Warsaw wrote: >Does it involve >calling clawsmail.compose_window.get_account_selection() and then Doing >Something with that via Gtk? yes, you're on the right track. The plugin doesn't provide account selection. It does however provide access to the GTK+ combo box selection widget, so what you can do is access the widget, iterate over the entries, search the one you want, and when you found the correct entry, select it: #================================================================ account_combo = clawsmail.compose_window.get_account_selection() for row in account_combo.get_model(): if "MyAccountName" in row[0]: account_combo.set_active_iter(row.iter) break #================================================================ This obviously relies on Claws Mail internals (that the widget is a GtkComboBox, that the underlying model has a string of the display in the first column of that model, ...), and thus you are not guaranteed that it will work forever. Also, I just saw that due to some Claws Mail internal widget reorganization, the get_account_selection() function couldn't find the combo widget anymore, and always returned None. So, for the above to work, you will need to build from current git. Holger From barry at python.org Fri Jul 11 00:21:52 2014 From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 18:21:52 -0400 Subject: [Users] Help with Python compose_any script References: <20140710133943.76d643c6@anarchist.wooz.org> <20140710212728.364de3d0@wodan> Message-ID: <20140710182152.4de803d7@anarchist.wooz.org> Hi Holger, On Jul 10, 2014, at 09:27 PM, Holger Berndt wrote: >#================================================================ >account_combo = clawsmail.compose_window.get_account_selection() >for row in account_combo.get_model(): > if "MyAccountName" in row[0]: > account_combo.set_active_iter(row.iter) > break >#================================================================ Thanks for the suggestion, but it seems like clawsmail.compose_window.get_account_selection() always returns None when run from compose_any. :/ Cheers, -Barry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So, you would need either a sufficiently old version before the regression (but don't ask me when that happened), or build from today's git repo. Holger From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Jul 11 08:30:26 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 07:30:26 +0100 Subject: [Users] Help with Python compose_any script In-Reply-To: <20140711003631.100f4342@wodan> References: <20140710133943.76d643c6@anarchist.wooz.org> <20140710212728.364de3d0@wodan> <20140710182152.4de803d7@anarchist.wooz.org> <20140711003631.100f4342@wodan> Message-ID: <20140711073026.5efa26d3@thewildbeast> On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 00:36:31 +0200 Holger Berndt wrote: > So, you would need either a sufficiently old version before the > regression (but don't ask me when that happened), or build from > today's git repo. OTOH, this works, right?: clawsmail.ComposeWindow("berndth at gmx.de") with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From berndth at gmx.de Fri Jul 11 09:31:53 2014 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 09:31:53 +0200 Subject: [Users] Help with Python compose_any script In-Reply-To: <20140711073026.5efa26d3@thewildbeast> References: <20140710133943.76d643c6@anarchist.wooz.org> <20140710212728.364de3d0@wodan> <20140710182152.4de803d7@anarchist.wooz.org> <20140711003631.100f4342@wodan> <20140711073026.5efa26d3@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140711093153.4e5d97c0@wodan> Hallo Paul, On Fr, 11.07.2014 07:30, Paul wrote: >> So, you would need either a sufficiently old version before the >> regression (but don't ask me when that happened), or build from >> today's git repo. > >OTOH, this works, right?: It works in the sense that it does what it is supposed to do, but it doesn't solve the problem. >clawsmail.ComposeWindow("berndth at gmx.de") This is a constructor call. It constructs a new compose window for the account based on the address in the argument. Barry wants to dynamically change the account of an existing compose window, based on what's in the To or Cc header of that window. So, it's also supposed to work for e.g. replies (in fact, I guess it's mainly meant for replies). Holger From barry at python.org Fri Jul 11 15:19:55 2014 From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 09:19:55 -0400 Subject: [Users] Help with Python compose_any script References: <20140710133943.76d643c6@anarchist.wooz.org> <20140710212728.364de3d0@wodan> <20140710182152.4de803d7@anarchist.wooz.org> <20140711003631.100f4342@wodan> Message-ID: <20140711091955.117068fa@anarchist.wooz.org> On Jul 11, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Holger Berndt wrote: >As I wrote before: > >>>Also, I just saw that due to some Claws Mail internal widget >>>reorganization, the get_account_selection() function couldn't find the >>>combo widget anymore, and always returned None. So, for the above to >>>work, you will need to build from current git. > >So, you would need either a sufficiently old version before the >regression (but don't ask me when that happened), or build from today's >git repo. D'oh! Sorry, I missed that. -Barry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: From 1 at victoriasjourney.com Fri Jul 11 21:36:31 2014 From: 1 at victoriasjourney.com (1 at victoriasjourney.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:36:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Users] [Bug 3222] failure to respond to SSL Certificate change results in UI hang In-Reply-To: <20140710101446.7b44652e@pfortin.com> References: <201407092246.48721.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140710101446.7b44652e@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <1205057938.33545.1405107391700.open-xchange@oxuslxltgw09.lxa.perfora.net> I just noticed this thread. I was similarly affected (home, two gmail accounts accessed via Claws mail). Accepting the gmail SSL certificate did nothing (neither did a thorough Google search). This is my solution: I selectively disabled each gmail account (in Claws) and noted that the gmail account that I rarely use / haven't logged into for some time (at Google.com) was the culprit. On the Google.com website I logged out of my gmail1 account, logged into my gmail 2 account, then out of gmail2 and back into gmail1 and re-enabled both gmail accounts again in Claws. I haven't seen the SSL certificate popup since. Hope it helps ... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Jul 12 00:49:50 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 22:49:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3225] New: on certain mails with "reply-to" header, claws also want's to reply to the list-id Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3225 Bug ID: 3225 Summary: on certain mails with "reply-to" header, claws also want's to reply to the list-id Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.9.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Actions Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: accounts at nstck.de Created attachment 1415 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1415&action=edit Mail that shows the described behavior when clicking reply to. On Mails from a certain mailman server, claws also tries to reply to (i guess) the list id. Wanted behavior: Clicking Reply yields a composer window with the select Mails' Reply-To Field Contents as the new mails' to field content. Experienced behavior: New Mail with To: CC: I guess this is impossible to debug without a sample, so I added one. (See attachment). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Jul 12 09:34:44 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 07:34:44 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3225] on certain mails with "reply-to" header, claws also want's to reply to the list-id In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3225 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Paul --- This is not a bug, but expected behaviour. You have two choices. 1. On /Configuration/Preferences/Compose/Writing unset "Reply button invokes mailing list reply" or 2. Use 'Reply to sender' when replying to these messages. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From sylpheed at 911networks.com Sat Jul 12 18:20:22 2014 From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 09:20:22 -0700 Subject: [Users] Mark unread -- keep unread Message-ID: <20140712092022.00c508d3@frogguski.911networks.com> Hi, CM 3.10.1: Is it possible to keep the emails in a folder as "marked unread" even after reading them. I have a folder "deal-with", this is a temp storage where I will have to deal with the email but not yet. I want to keep it unread so I don't forget it. Or is there a better solution in CM? Thanks Syv -- sknahT vyS From 1 at VictoriasJourney.com Sat Jul 12 19:05:44 2014 From: 1 at VictoriasJourney.com (Victoria S.) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 10:05:44 -0700 Subject: [Users] Missing spell checker [Claws Mail, enchant, aspell, CentOS 6.5] In-Reply-To: <20140709201806.132b2607@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> References: <1403590961.110675.1404939862352.open-xchange@oxuslxltgw09.lxa.perfora.net> <20140709181646.2e64ef44@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> <1259926518.118050.1404947345068.open-xchange@oxuslxltgw09.lxa.perfora.net> <20140709201806.132b2607@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> Message-ID: <20140712100544.4c70525b@victoria> Charles (earlier in this thread) presented a reasonable Claws Mail spell-checking solution -- my Claws installation lacks an integrated spell checker -- that got me thinking and experimenting. Here is my solution/summary. Spell Checking in Claws Mail Using aspell Background: I work in a corporate environment, on a CentOS-based computer without root access, where it was claimed that Claws Mail could not be installed. After I requested some needed packages (dependencies), I managed to compile Claws mail myself in my home directory, and it works fine. However, despite enchant being installed earlier by Systems (our support staff), it never worked right; e.g., my ~/.config./enchant/en_us.dic is overwritten to 0 bytes whenever I log out; this issue was never resolved. Perhaps related, when I compiled Claws Mail in my $HOME directory using ./configure --prefix=$HOME/... it compiled Claws without spell checking support. I therefore also (re-installed) enchant, set the $PATH, etc., and recompiled Claws -- all to no avail - any of these issues. Workaround: 1. Install (local user) GNU aspell (http://aspell.net/; see 'man aspell' for more information). 2. Also need to install an aspell dictionary; my aspell dictionary is at ~/.aspell.en.pws; usage: aspell -c 3. Enable a Claws Mail aspell-based spell check "action" (Configuration:Actions... menu): Per the example provided at http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Actions ... Check spelling (Open a terminal and check the spelling with ispell): |T=`mktemp $HOME/.sXXXXXX`; cat - > $T;xterm -e ispell $T;cat $T;rm $T| ... I modified this action to work with aspell (vs. ispell: not installed) and gnome-terminal (vs. xterm: not installed): | T=`mktemp $HOME/.tmpXXX`; cat - > $T ; gnome-terminal --geometry 150x55+25+25 -x aspell -c $T; printf ' ' >> $T; cat $T; rm $T | 4. Set Claws Mail keyboard shortcut (Ctrl-L) for aspell action: a. Configuration:Preferences:Other:Miscellaneous:Enable customizable keyboard shortcuts menu b. Hover over the Tools:Actions:aspell menu item in both the Claws main program window and separately in the message composition window and type your shortcut (e.g., Ctrl-L) Notes: 1. System environment, versions: Claws 3.10.1 on CentOS 6.5 Final 64-bit; aspell -v: @(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 (but really Aspell 0.60.6.1) 2. Claws Mail actions: http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Actions 3. mktemp: see (e.g.) linux mktemp man page (http://linux.die.net/man/1/mktemp) and https://github.com/rtomayko/shocco/issues/5 (for " too few X's in template" error message) 4. cat - > : The '-' is important! Per the linux cat man page (provided example - annotated here): cat f - g ## Output f’s contents, then standard input [i.e. the '-'], then g’s contents." 5. gnome-terminal --geometry 150x55+25+25 ## width x height + xpos + ypos; adjust per your preference (or simply omit the --geometry option) 6. Problem - a quirk? The last character is truncated (omitted) when the output is returned to Claws; it is not due to aspell (tested independently using the same text in a text file using aspell in the terminal); the input is fine up to that point, so it must be in the latter "cat $T;" or "|" parts of the action command. Workarounds: a. Include a trailing space in your message, prior to running aspell. b. Alternatively (per http://www.unix.com/shell-programming-and-scripting/128970-add-space-end-file.html), modify the action script as follows (also implemented above, in case this portion of these notes is deleted or not read): programmatically add a trailing space at the end of the $T temporary file that is returned to Claws Mail (printf ' ' >> $T;): | T=`mktemp $HOME/.tmpXXX`; cat - > $T ; gnome-terminal --geometry 150x55+25+25 -x aspell -c $T; printf ' ' >> $T; cat $T; rm $T | 7. If there are no spelling errors, aspell will simply execute and terminate; i.e., it will appear that nothing has happened. 8. aspell, aspell dictionary installation notes (CentOS 6; abbreviated here): a. Install aspell binary [http://aspell.net/] ./configure --prefix=$HOME/Linux/apps/aspell make make install make clean Set path (see: https://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cs348/unix_path.html): echo 'export PATH=/home/vstuart/Linux/apps/aspell/:$PATH' ## Note! Appending $PATH at the end, rather than the beginning, export PATH=$PATH:/..., directs the system to this binary, first! The trailing /, before :$PATH, is important/needed! To make this path permanent, add the following to your ~/.bashrc: export PATH=/home/vstuart/Linux/apps/aspell/bin/:$PATH b. Install aspell dictionary ./configure --help Usage: ./configure [--help | --vars VAR1=VAL1 ...] Note: Variables may also be set in the environment before running configure Useful vars: ASPELL ASPELL_PARMS PREZIP DESTDIR In the following I guessed at the PREFIX= bit, but it seemed to work. I had to dig around for "prezip-bin" : it is here (in my aspell installation): /home/vstuart/Linux/apps/aspell/bin/prezip-bin So, the three steps are: ./configure --vars PREFIX=--prefix=$HOME/Linux/apps/aspell ASPELL=/home/vstuart/Linux/apps/aspell/bin/aspell make make install make clean 9. Also added aspell binary path to ~/.bashrc: alias aspell='echo " [~/Linux/apps/aspell/bin/aspell]" && /home/vstuart/Linux/apps/aspell/bin/aspell' Q.E.D. :-) From himemsys36 at hotmail.com Sat Jul 12 19:08:36 2014 From: himemsys36 at hotmail.com (Tim Zakharov) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 12:08:36 -0500 Subject: [Users] Duplicate emails daily Message-ID: I typically get about 1-3 duplicate emails delivered each day between a few accounts in CM. I have found that I need to run Tools->Delete Duplicated Messages each day to most efficiently combat this. Is this a known issue? Am I mis-configured? -- Regards, Tim Zakharov From himemsys36 at hotmail.com Sat Jul 12 19:12:19 2014 From: himemsys36 at hotmail.com (Tim Zakharov) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 12:12:19 -0500 Subject: [Users] Bypass Trash Folder on Delete Message-ID: In most other email clients, a Shift-DEL will bypass the Trash folder and permanently delete. Is there a setting to allow this in CM? There are just some messages that you know you won't ever have to "get back" and it would be nice not to have to delete twice (once from folder, then empty trash). -- Regards, Tim Zakharov From pf at pfortin.com Sat Jul 12 19:30:24 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 13:30:24 -0400 Subject: [Users] Mark unread -- keep unread In-Reply-To: <20140712092022.00c508d3@frogguski.911networks.com> References: <20140712092022.00c508d3@frogguski.911networks.com> Message-ID: <20140712133024.33ca95fe@pfortin.com> On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 09:20:22 -0700 sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote: >Hi, > >CM 3.10.1: Is it possible to keep the emails in a folder as "marked >unread" even after reading them. Yes >I have a folder "deal-with", this is a temp storage where I will have >to deal with the email but not yet. I want to keep it unread so I >don't forget it. At minimum, these are possible: - Click the blank area where the envelope icon normally appears in the "S" column - Right-click message, Mark, Mark as unread - Shift+! From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Jul 12 20:27:15 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 18:27:15 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3225] on certain mails with "reply-to" header, claws also want's to reply to the list-id In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3225 --- Comment #2 from Nils Stö --- Option 1 is what I want, and it works. Thank you! Didn't relate that option. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From andrej at kacian.sk Sat Jul 12 21:11:34 2014 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 21:11:34 +0200 Subject: [Users] Bypass Trash Folder on Delete In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140712211134.75431369@penny> On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 12:12:19 -0500 Tim Zakharov wrote: > In most other email clients, a Shift-DEL will bypass the Trash folder > and permanently delete. Is there a setting to allow this in CM? There > are just some messages that you know you won't ever have to "get back" > and it would be nice not to have to delete twice (once from folder, then > empty trash). > I'm not sure if it is default, but Claws Mail, like any GTK+ app, allows you to set your custom keyboard shortcuts to any menu items. The item you are looking for is "Delete" in main window's Message menu. Just hover your mouse over that item, and press Shift+Delete. You need to have hidden preference gtk_can_change_accels set to 1. You can read more about hidden preferences here: http://www.claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html#adv_hidden I don't know, maybe we should make this a default shortcut? Regards, -- Andrej Kacian From myetto1 at nycap.rr.com Sat Jul 12 21:19:37 2014 From: myetto1 at nycap.rr.com (Michael A. Yetto) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 15:19:37 -0400 Subject: [Users] Mark unread -- keep unread In-Reply-To: <20140712092022.00c508d3@frogguski.911networks.com> References: <20140712092022.00c508d3@frogguski.911networks.com> Message-ID: <20140712151937.024b9b81@Braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 09:20:22 -0700 sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote: >CM 3.10.1: Is it possible to keep the emails in a folder as >"marked unread" even after reading them. > >I have a folder "deal-with", this is a temp storage where I >will have to deal with the email but not yet. I want to keep it >unread so I don't forget it. > >Or is there a better solution in CM? > This is my solution, it's better for you only if you say it is. Create a tag called "Deal with this" and tag what ever e-mails you need to deal with later. You can keep them in whatever folder they were sorted into if you like. Create two filters and add them to both pre-processing and post-processing. 'Clear mark: ~tag matchcase "Deal with this" unmark' 'Set mark: tag matchcase "Deal with this' You can even set and clear colors to make them stand out in an article list. Folders with marked messages are themselves marked. This might meet your needs, some other user's needs or only mine. -- Mike -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From himemsys36 at hotmail.com Sat Jul 12 21:54:28 2014 From: himemsys36 at hotmail.com (Tim Zakharov) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 14:54:28 -0500 Subject: [Users] Bypass Trash Folder on Delete In-Reply-To: <20140712211134.75431369@penny> References: <20140712211134.75431369@penny> Message-ID: On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 21:11:34 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 12:12:19 -0500 > Tim Zakharov wrote: > > > In most other email clients, a Shift-DEL will bypass the Trash > > folder and permanently delete. Is there a setting to allow this in > > CM? There are just some messages that you know you won't ever have > > to "get back" and it would be nice not to have to delete twice > > (once from folder, then empty trash). > > > > I'm not sure if it is default, but Claws Mail, like any GTK+ app, > allows you to set your custom keyboard shortcuts to any menu items. > > The item you are looking for is "Delete" in main window's Message > menu. Just hover your mouse over that item, and press Shift+Delete. > > You need to have hidden preference gtk_can_change_accels set to 1. > You can read more about hidden preferences here: > http://www.claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html#adv_hidden > > I don't know, maybe we should make this a default shortcut? > > Regards, That sounds like it would *replace* all safe deletes with permanent deletes? It would be nice to just hit Del to send to trash, then hit SHIFT-DEL for permanent delete. -- Regards, Tim Zakharov From andrej at kacian.sk Sat Jul 12 22:14:29 2014 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 22:14:29 +0200 Subject: [Users] Bypass Trash Folder on Delete In-Reply-To: References: <20140712211134.75431369@penny> Message-ID: <20140712221429.53606301@penny> On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 14:54:28 -0500 Tim Zakharov wrote: > On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 21:11:34 +0200 > Andrej Kacian wrote: > > > On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 12:12:19 -0500 > > Tim Zakharov wrote: > > > > > In most other email clients, a Shift-DEL will bypass the Trash > > > folder and permanently delete. Is there a setting to allow this in > > > CM? There are just some messages that you know you won't ever have > > > to "get back" and it would be nice not to have to delete twice > > > (once from folder, then empty trash). > > > > > > > I'm not sure if it is default, but Claws Mail, like any GTK+ app, > > allows you to set your custom keyboard shortcuts to any menu items. > > > > The item you are looking for is "Delete" in main window's Message > > menu. Just hover your mouse over that item, and press Shift+Delete. > > > > You need to have hidden preference gtk_can_change_accels set to 1. > > You can read more about hidden preferences here: > > http://www.claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html#adv_hidden > > > > I don't know, maybe we should make this a default shortcut? > > > > Regards, > > That sounds like it would *replace* all safe deletes with permanent > deletes? It would be nice to just hit Del to send to trash, then hit > SHIFT-DEL for permanent delete. > It does exactly that. Plain Delete key will still send mail to trash, while Shift+Delete will delete mail. You can find the "Move to trash" menu item just above "Delete" in the Message menu. -- Andrej Kacian From himemsys36 at hotmail.com Sat Jul 12 22:57:08 2014 From: himemsys36 at hotmail.com (Tim Zakharov) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 15:57:08 -0500 Subject: [Users] Bypass Trash Folder on Delete In-Reply-To: <20140712221429.53606301@penny> References: <20140712211134.75431369@penny> <20140712221429.53606301@penny> Message-ID: On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 22:14:29 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 14:54:28 -0500 > Tim Zakharov wrote: > > > On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 21:11:34 +0200 > > Andrej Kacian wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 12:12:19 -0500 > > > Tim Zakharov wrote: > > > > > > > In most other email clients, a Shift-DEL will bypass the Trash > > > > folder and permanently delete. Is there a setting to allow this > > > > in CM? There are just some messages that you know you won't > > > > ever have to "get back" and it would be nice not to have to > > > > delete twice (once from folder, then empty trash). > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure if it is default, but Claws Mail, like any GTK+ app, > > > allows you to set your custom keyboard shortcuts to any menu > > > items. > > > > > > The item you are looking for is "Delete" in main window's Message > > > menu. Just hover your mouse over that item, and press > > > Shift+Delete. > > > > > > You need to have hidden preference gtk_can_change_accels set to 1. > > > You can read more about hidden preferences here: > > > http://www.claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html#adv_hidden > > > > > > I don't know, maybe we should make this a default shortcut? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > That sounds like it would *replace* all safe deletes with permanent > > deletes? It would be nice to just hit Del to send to trash, then > > hit SHIFT-DEL for permanent delete. > > > > It does exactly that. Plain Delete key will still send mail to trash, > while Shift+Delete will delete mail. You can find the "Move to trash" > menu item just above "Delete" in the Message menu. > Thanks for clarifying. :) -- Regards, Tim Zakharov From sylpheed at 911networks.com Sun Jul 13 19:18:11 2014 From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 10:18:11 -0700 Subject: [Users] Mark unread -- keep unread In-Reply-To: <20140712151937.024b9b81@Braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> References: <20140712092022.00c508d3@frogguski.911networks.com> <20140712151937.024b9b81@Braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> Message-ID: <20140713101811.73a9da8f@frogguski.911networks.com> On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 15:19:37 -0400 "Michael A. Yetto" wrote: >Create two filters and add them to both pre-processing and >post-processing. >'Clear mark: ~tag matchcase "Deal with this" unmark' >'Set mark: tag matchcase "Deal with this' I'm trying but somehow I must have screwed up and can't seem to make it work: * How do add a filter in the pre/post processing? * When I created manually the rules in both the pre-post processing nothing happens. I must be missing something. No sure what. Thanks Syv -- sknahT vyS From 1 at VictoriasJourney.com Sun Jul 13 19:35:45 2014 From: 1 at VictoriasJourney.com (Victoria S.) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 10:35:45 -0700 Subject: [Users] Missing spell checker [Claws Mail, enchant, aspell, CentOS 6.5] In-Reply-To: <20140712100544.4c70525b@victoria> References: <1403590961.110675.1404939862352.open-xchange@oxuslxltgw09.lxa.perfora.net> <20140709181646.2e64ef44@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> <1259926518.118050.1404947345068.open-xchange@oxuslxltgw09.lxa.perfora.net> <20140709201806.132b2607@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> <20140712100544.4c70525b@victoria> Message-ID: <20140713103545.310ca2a4@victoria> Update: While the following Claws mail action worked well on my CentOS 6.5 Final-based computer at work, | T=`mktemp $HOME/.tmpXXX`; cat - > $T ; gnome-terminal --geometry 150x55+25+25 -x aspell -c $T; printf ' ' >> $T; cat $T; rm $T | ... at home (Ubuntu 14.04 LTS) that action (particularly the gnome-terminal-associated bit) was problematic; e.g., throwing the following error (a known GTK module bug?): "GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_settings_get: the format string may not contain '&' (key 'monospace-font-name' from schema 'org.gnome.desktop.interface') ..." However, in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS , this worked more reliably: | T=`mktemp /home/victoria/.tmpXXX`; cat - > $T; xterm -e aspell -c $T; printf ' ' >> $T; cat $T; rm $T | Victoria :-) From myetto1 at nycap.rr.com Sun Jul 13 19:46:07 2014 From: myetto1 at nycap.rr.com (Michael A. Yetto) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 13:46:07 -0400 Subject: [Users] Mark unread -- keep unread In-Reply-To: <20140713101811.73a9da8f@frogguski.911networks.com> References: <20140712092022.00c508d3@frogguski.911networks.com> <20140712151937.024b9b81@Braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> <20140713101811.73a9da8f@frogguski.911networks.com> Message-ID: <20140713134607.006b1c0c@Braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> On Sun, 13 Jul 2014 10:18:11 -0700 sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote: >On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 15:19:37 -0400 >"Michael A. Yetto" wrote: > >>Create two filters and add them to both pre-processing and >>post-processing. >>'Clear mark: ~tag matchcase "Deal with this" unmark' >>'Set mark: tag matchcase "Deal with this' > >I'm trying but somehow I must have screwed up and can't seem to >make it work: > >* How do add a filter in the pre/post processing? From the main menu select Configuration / Pre-processing. Enter in Name: Clear mark Condition: ~tag matchcase "Deal with this" Action: unmark Click on Add. Select (New) Enter in Name: Set mark Condition: tag matchcase "Deal with this" Action: mark Click on Add Click on OK From the main menu select Configuration / Post-processing. Enter in Name: Clear mark Condition: ~tag matchcase "Deal with this" Action: unmark Click on Add. Select (New) Enter in Name: Set mark Condition: tag matchcase "Deal with this" Action: mark Click on Add Click on OK If you wish you can add "color 0" after unmark and "color 2" after mark in the actions to have the "Deal with this" messages colored red. >* When I created manually the rules in both the pre-post >processing > nothing happens. > For each folder where you want this to work select Properties and under General add a checkmark to "Run Processing rules when opening." >I must be missing something. No sure what. > -- Mike Yetto “We establish no religion in this country, we command no worship, we mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and state are, and must remain, separate.” - Ronald Reagan (1911-2004), 40th President of the United States -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sylpheed at 911networks.com Tue Jul 15 06:19:11 2014 From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 21:19:11 -0700 Subject: [Users] Hel! Missing Ps when comPosing in CM Message-ID: <20140714211911.59225b03@frogguski.911networks.com> Hi, Suddenly, I can't tyPe lowercase P in CM 3.10.1 when comPosing. UPPercase Ps are OK. In Vim: "pppPPPP" works (Pasted) Bash: same, no Problem Just CM. Any suggestion on what I did and how to reset it? Thanks Syv -- sknahT vyS From andrej at kacian.sk Tue Jul 15 07:19:54 2014 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 07:19:54 +0200 Subject: [Users] Hel! Missing Ps when comPosing in CM In-Reply-To: <20140714211911.59225b03@frogguski.911networks.com> References: <20140714211911.59225b03@frogguski.911networks.com> Message-ID: <20140715071954.70806b73@penny> On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 21:19:11 -0700 sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote: > Hi, > > Suddenly, I can't tyPe lowercase P in CM 3.10.1 when comPosing. > UPPercase Ps are OK. > > In Vim: "pppPPPP" works (Pasted) > Bash: same, no Problem > > Just CM. > > Any suggestion on what I did and how to reset it? > > Thanks > > Syv > Hi, you probably assigned "p" key to some menu item in Compose window accidentally. Either try looking through the menus and hit Delete key when hovering over the guilty menu item, or look for a line ending with "p") in your ~/.claws-mail/menurc file, and delete it while Claws Mail is not running. Regards, -- Andrej Kacian From sylpheed at 911networks.com Tue Jul 15 07:25:31 2014 From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 22:25:31 -0700 Subject: [Users] Hel! Missing Ps when comPosing in CM In-Reply-To: <20140715071954.70806b73@penny> References: <20140714211911.59225b03@frogguski.911networks.com> <20140715071954.70806b73@penny> Message-ID: <20140714222531.1193c2f1@frogguski.911networks.com> On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 07:19:54 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: >"p") > >in your ~/.claws-mail/menurc file, and delete it while Claws Mail is >not running. perfecto! Thank you pppppppppp Syv -- sknahT vyS From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jul 15 07:38:30 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 06:38:30 +0100 Subject: [Users] Hel! Missing Ps when comPosing in CM In-Reply-To: <20140715071954.70806b73@penny> References: <20140714211911.59225b03@frogguski.911networks.com> <20140715071954.70806b73@penny> Message-ID: <20140715063830.3b5381f7@thewildbeast> And consider turning off again the 'Enable customisable keyboard shortcuts' option on the Other/Miscellaneous page of the preferences. regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jul 15 09:49:59 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 07:49:59 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2847] Make configuration OS-independent In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2847 Ricardo Mones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |LATER Summary|Incompatibility between |Make configuration |Windows and Debian |OS-independent |signatures | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jul 15 09:56:48 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 07:56:48 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3226] New: Long line marker Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3226 Bug ID: 3226 Summary: Long line marker Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: All URL: http://bugs.debian.org/754307 OS: All Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: UI/Compose Window Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: mones at users.sourceforge.net Quoting original reporter: “ Please add a long line marker, as those present in many editors. It could use the values set in "Wrapping" preferences. Of course this marker makes only sense when composing using monospaced font, but doesn't hurt in other cases. ” Thanks in advance. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jul 15 16:31:42 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 14:31:42 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3227] New: Space bar creates a new paragraph. Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3227 Bug ID: 3227 Summary: Space bar creates a new paragraph. Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Compose Window Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: mason at contractpilot.net Hi, As I compose a email letter the space bar drops the beginning of the word down to a new line. When I backspace it combines the words and then when I try to seperate the words with a space bar it again moves down to a new line. If you need additional information, I will glady respond on request. Thank you. Mase -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jul 15 16:52:08 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 14:52:08 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2661] Unencrypted e-mail gets saved on IMAP server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2661 --- Comment #16 from sercher --- In fact, plaintext emails are being _temporarily_ saved (to the 'Queue' folder) even if you uncheck the 'Leave a copy in the Sent folder' checkbox. Please see the network log below. ... [18:06:18] IMAP4> 56 APPEND Queue (\Seen) {1981} [18:06:18] IMAP4< + go ahead [18:06:18] IMAP4> [data - 1983 bytes] [18:06:19] IMAP4< * 2 EXISTS [18:06:19] IMAP4< 56 OK [APPENDUID 48 37] (Success) [18:06:19] IMAP4> 57 NOOP [18:06:19] IMAP4< 57 OK Success [18:06:19] IMAP4> 58 UID FETCH 37 BODY.PEEK[] [18:06:20] IMAP4< * 2 FETCH (UID 37 BODY[] {1981} [18:06:20] IMAP4< AF: [18:06:20] IMAP4< NF:0 [18:06:20] IMAP4< PS:10 [18:06:20] IMAP4< SRH:1 [18:06:20] IMAP4< SFN: [18:06:20] IMAP4< DSR: [18:06:20] IMAP4< MID: [18:06:20] IMAP4< CFG: [18:06:20] IMAP4< PT:0 [18:06:20] IMAP4< S:my_user_id [18:06:20] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 388 bytes] [18:06:20] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 514 bytes] [18:06:20] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1015 bytes] [18:06:20] IMAP4< 58 OK Success [18:06:20] IMAP4> 59 UID STORE 37 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen) [18:06:20] IMAP4< 59 OK Success * Account 'my_user_id at gmail.com': Connecting to SMTP server: smtp.gmail.com:465... [18:06:20] SMTP< 220 mx.google.com ESMTP wm3sm6953181lac.43 - gsmtp [18:06:21] SMTP> RCPT TO: [18:06:21] SMTP< 250 2.1.5 OK wm3sm6953181lac.43 - gsmtp [18:06:21] SMTP> DATA [18:06:21] SMTP< 354 Go ahead wm3sm6953181lac.43 - gsmtp [18:06:21] SMTP> . (EOM) [18:06:22] SMTP< 250 2.0.0 OK 1405433179 wm3sm6953181lac.43 - gsmtp * Mail sent successfully. [18:06:22] SMTP> QUIT [18:06:22] SMTP< 221 2.0.0 closing connection wm3sm6953181lac.43 - gsmtp [18:06:22] IMAP4> 60 UID STORE 37 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted) [18:06:22] IMAP4< * 2 EXPUNGE [18:06:22] IMAP4< * 1 EXISTS [18:06:22] IMAP4< 60 OK Success [18:06:22] IMAP4> 61 EXPUNGE [18:06:22] IMAP4< 61 OK Success [18:06:22] IMAP4- [fetching UIDs...] [18:06:22] IMAP4> 62 UID FETCH 1:* (UID) [18:06:22] IMAP4< * 1 FETCH (UID 36) [18:06:22] IMAP4< 62 OK Success [18:06:22] IMAP4- [fetching flags...] [18:06:22] IMAP4> 63 UID FETCH 1:* (FLAGS UID) [18:06:23] IMAP4< * 1 FETCH (UID 36 FLAGS (\Seen)) [18:06:23] IMAP4< 63 OK Success ... This is certainly a bug, that defeats the purpose of email encryption. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jul 15 16:52:22 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 14:52:22 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3227] Space bar creates a new paragraph. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3227 --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones --- Looks like you're auto-wrapping and your wrap settings are too tight. Can you check what settings do you have in Compose/Wrapping panel of the Configuration/Preferences... window? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jul 15 17:14:27 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 15:14:27 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2661] Unencrypted e-mail gets saved on IMAP server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2661 --- Comment #17 from Brian Morrison --- The way to fix this is to create a local MH mailbox on your machine and point the sent and queue (and any others you want) to that local mailbox. Then your encrypted mail will not be stored on the IMAP server. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 16 10:46:30 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 08:46:30 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2661] Unencrypted e-mail gets saved on IMAP server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2661 --- Comment #18 from sercher --- Thanks Brian, > The way to fix this is to create a local MH mailbox on your machine and > point the sent and queue (and any others you want) to that local mailbox. Could there be any workaround on how to "point the sent and queue" under Windows? > Then your encrypted mail will not be stored on the IMAP server. That would be just great. However this is not much of an issue, that the encrypted emails are stored. What I'm saying is that Claws shouldn't be uploading the plain texts. Well, there's no benefit in storing the encrypted emails anyway, because only the recipient can decrypt it, so it should be disabled by default. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 16 17:13:51 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 15:13:51 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3227] Space bar creates a new paragraph. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3227 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #2 from Paul --- see comment #1 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 16 17:42:03 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 15:42:03 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 1560] Remember visited URLs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1560 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME --- Comment #1 from Paul --- it does this. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 16 17:45:58 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 15:45:58 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2562] Allow loading a default CSS file to display HTML with the Fancy plugin. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2562 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #1 from Paul --- Today I implemented a feature a lot like this, but I didn't see (or remember seeing most likely) this until now! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 16 17:47:38 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 15:47:38 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2767] Show image attachments in the document In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2767 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From lfljvenaura at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 18:57:19 2014 From: lfljvenaura at gmail.com (Lawrence London) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 12:57:19 -0400 Subject: [Users] Running Claws with mail folders on external hard drive Message-ID: How do I run Claws with mail folders on an external hard drive? I want to run it on a laptop with a small SSD hard drive and would prefer to have mail folders on an external drive to avoid space issues on the boot drive. Maybe there is something in the manual about this but so far have not found it -- Lawrence F. London lfljvenaura at gmail.com http://www.avantgeared.com https://plus.google.com/+Avantgeared Skype: lawrence.f.london -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From subscript at free.fr Wed Jul 16 19:03:43 2014 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 19:03:43 +0200 Subject: [Users] Running Claws with mail folders on external hard drive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140716190343.13fafb8f@anthra> Hello Lawrence, On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 12:57:19 -0400 Lawrence London wrote: > How do I run Claws with mail folders on an external hard drive? > > I want to run it on a laptop with a small SSD hard drive and would prefer > to have > mail folders on an external drive to avoid space issues on the boot drive. > > Maybe there is something in the manual about this but so far have not found > it Close Claws Mail. Move ~/Mail to your external storage device, and create a symlink in ~/ to it. Start Claws Mail back. Of course, do not start Claws Mail if the external storage device is not up and mounted. In order to handle this situation (and if you care), you could write a shell script that checks if ~/Mail points to an existing directory, then start CM otherwise stops and explicitly tell what's wrong. Of course call this shell script instead of directly calling `claws-mail`. Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From lfljvenaura at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 19:46:53 2014 From: lfljvenaura at gmail.com (Lawrence London) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 13:46:53 -0400 Subject: [Users] Running Claws with mail folders on external hard drive In-Reply-To: <20140716190343.13fafb8f@anthra> References: <20140716190343.13fafb8f@anthra> Message-ID: On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:03 PM, wwp wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 12:57:19 -0400 Lawrence London > wrote: > > How do I run Claws with mail folders on an external hard drive? > > Close Claws Mail. Move ~/Mail to your external storage device, and > create a symlink in ~/ to it. Start Claws Mail back. > > wwp > Thanks very much wwp; I will do it this way. I am running Windows 8.1 (plan on downgrading to Win 7) and have found several excellent tutorials on creating symlinks in Win via command line or Explorer after installing add-ons. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/16226/complete-guide-to-symbolic-links-symlinks-on-windows-or-linux/ http://lifehacker.com/5496652/how-to-use-symlinks-in-windows Thanks again. LL -- Lawrence F. London lfljvenaura at gmail.com http://www.avantgeared.com https://plus.google.com/+Avantgeared Skype: lawrence.f.london -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mir at miras.org Wed Jul 16 20:15:17 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 20:15:17 +0200 Subject: [Users] Running Claws with mail folders on external hard drive In-Reply-To: References: <20140716190343.13fafb8f@anthra> Message-ID: <20140716201517.15af8ecf@sleipner.datanom.net> On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 13:46:53 -0400 Lawrence London wrote: > and have found several excellent tutorials on creating symlinks in Win via > command line or Explorer after installing add-ons. > http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/16226/complete-guide-to-symbolic-links-symlinks-on-windows-or-linux/ > http://lifehacker.com/5496652/how-to-use-symlinks-in-windows > Thanks again. You don't need any addons to create symlinks in Windows >= 7 since it comes part of the OS: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa363878(v=vs.85).aspx -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: Young men want to be faithful and are not; old men want to be faithless and cannot. -- Oscar Wilde -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com Wed Jul 16 20:18:40 2014 From: kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com (Abhay S. Kushwaha) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 23:48:40 +0530 Subject: [Users] Running Claws with mail folders on external hard drive In-Reply-To: References: <20140716190343.13fafb8f@anthra> Message-ID: <20140716234840.0000619a@netsolutionsindia.com> On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 13:46:53 -0400, Lawrence wrote: > > > How do I run Claws with mail folders on an external hard drive? > > > > Close Claws Mail. Move ~/Mail to your external storage device, and > > create a symlink in ~/ to it. Start Claws Mail back. > > Thanks very much wwp; I will do it this way. I am running Windows > 8.1 (plan on downgrading to Win 7) > and have found several excellent tutorials on creating symlinks in > Win via command line or Explorer after installing add-ons. On Windows, it's easier. Assign a drive letter to the external drive. Windows will remember. I use N: to make sure additional devices do not take up a drive letter I was using for the external drive. Then move Mail folder from your profile to external drive & edit folderlist.xml to point the Mailbox to it on the external drive. The sub-folders use relative paths so that one change is all you need to do. For eg: That's it. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 17 09:32:50 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 07:32:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2742] usability requests In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2742 --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones --- Another reported has added the following information to the Debian bug: “ If you know which document is in the winmail.dat (since the content is not displayed) then you can open it by selecting the correct program. Otherwise you have to "try and error" with all available programs you have until it works. The only thing I want from the parser is that the content is displayed in a way where you can see the file-type. I was specially surprised because the "screen-shots" showed the correct file-type where in real live this is not the case. My solution for now is to save the winmail.dat and open it with tnef. ” -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 17 09:41:55 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 07:41:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2047] forward attachments In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2047 Ricardo Mones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #2 from Ricardo Mones --- Closing bug fixed in 2011. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 17 10:51:40 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 08:51:40 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2530] Description of symbols In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2530 Ricardo Mones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones --- Checked with 3.10.1-pkg56 and works fine. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From johnxj at comcast.net Sat Jul 19 05:20:04 2014 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 20:20:04 -0700 Subject: [Users] Can't figure out how to make a filter Message-ID: <20140718202004.2551cff0@Devil-Bonobo> Claws Mail 3.8.1 on Xubuntu 13.10. I have a Facebook account that I would love to delete, but I need it. Several times a day I get a message "John, you have notifications pending," which I find very annoying. The notifications are just trash that I have no interest in. I am trying to create a filter rule based on the above subject that would automatically delete these e-mails, but no matter how I configure it, it doesn't work. How can I configure Claws Mail so I never see these messages? From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Jul 19 08:56:31 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 07:56:31 +0100 Subject: [Users] Can't figure out how to make a filter In-Reply-To: <20140718202004.2551cff0@Devil-Bonobo> References: <20140718202004.2551cff0@Devil-Bonobo> Message-ID: <20140719075631.4b0f0685@thewildbeast> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 20:20:04 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: > I am trying to create a filter rule based on the above subject that > would automatically delete these e-mails, but no matter how I > configure it, it doesn't work. How can I configure Claws Mail so I > never see these messages? What have you tried so far? Keep in mind that filter rules are applied sequentially, from top to bottom, and that a 'move' rule is a final rule. So if you have another rule that moves these messages first, then they won't be available for the subject matching rule. The filtering log is a good way to debug your filtering process. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Jul 19 08:58:52 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 07:58:52 +0100 Subject: [Users] Can't figure out how to make a filter In-Reply-To: <20140718202004.2551cff0@Devil-Bonobo> References: <20140718202004.2551cff0@Devil-Bonobo> Message-ID: <20140719075852.27622337@thewildbeast> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 20:20:04 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: > Claws Mail 3.8.1 on Xubuntu 13.10. BTW, it is recommended that you use the Claws Mail official PPA and upgrade to the latest release. https://launchpad.net/~claws-mail/+archive/ubuntu/ppa with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From brad at fineby.me.uk Sat Jul 19 17:57:02 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 16:57:02 +0100 Subject: [Users] Can't figure out how to make a filter In-Reply-To: <20140718202004.2551cff0@Devil-Bonobo> References: <20140718202004.2551cff0@Devil-Bonobo> Message-ID: <20140719165702.07772340@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 20:20:04 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: Hello John, >configure it, it doesn't work. How can I configure Claws Mail so I >never see these messages? Even with Paul's suggestions, I prefer to tackle such things from the other end. IOW, tell FB to stop sending notifications. There should be a link in each one that allows you to do so. You may have to do it more than once, since it seems FB has several notification origins. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Only the wounded remain, the generals have all left the game Generals - The Damned -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 473 bytes Desc: not available URL: From johnjasonj at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 08:19:17 2014 From: johnjasonj at gmail.com (John Jason Jordan) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 23:19:17 -0700 Subject: [Users] Can't figure out how to make a filter Message-ID: <20140720231917.07e51b9a@Devil-Bonobo> Claws Mail 3.8.1 on Xubuntu 13.10. I have a Facebook account that I would love to delete, but I need it. Several times a day I get a message "John, you have notifications pending," which I find very annoying. The notifications are just trash that I have no interest in. I am trying to create a filter rule based on the above subject that would automatically delete these e-mails, but no matter how I configure it, it doesn't work. How can I configure Claws Mail so I never see these messages? From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jul 21 08:46:43 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 07:46:43 +0100 Subject: [Users] Can't figure out how to make a filter In-Reply-To: <20140720231917.07e51b9a@Devil-Bonobo> References: <20140720231917.07e51b9a@Devil-Bonobo> Message-ID: <20140721074643.4e7d4927@thewildbeast> Hi, You were answered the first time, see the archive: http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2014-July/010383.html regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jul 21 19:57:12 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 17:57:12 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3228] New: Unresponsive when selecting an "Other" key to encrypt to Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3228 Bug ID: 3228 Summary: Unresponsive when selecting an "Other" key to encrypt to Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.9.3 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Compose Window Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: barry at python.org Let's say I'm sending an encrypted message to anne at example.com. I have a GPG pubkey in my keyring for her, but under a different address, such as aperson at example.com. This means when I select the Encrypt option in the compose window, Claws does not know what key to encrypt the message to, so it prompts me to select one. When I click on the "Other" button, a window pops up for me to enter a key id or user name (email address), but at this point, Claws becomes unresponsive. I cannot type into the keyid/userid text field, nor can I paste into it. I cannot cancel this window, and I cannot cancel the encryption window (i.e. the list of keys). I cannot do anything with the compose window either, nor with the main window. I am left to force quit Claws. There seems to be no way to encrypt a message to a different email address. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jul 21 20:32:25 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:32:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3228] Unresponsive when selecting an "Other" key to encrypt to In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3228 --- Comment #1 from Paul --- works for me. what does the --debug output say during this? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jul 21 21:34:51 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 19:34:51 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3228] Unresponsive when selecting an "Other" key to encrypt to In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3228 --- Comment #2 from Barry Warsaw --- It's strange. First, I'll attach the --debug output (with the original email addresses anonymized - bill at example.com is the sender, anne at example.com is the recipient). The other thing that's strange is that it doesn't always seem to hang. I can't quite figure out when it does and when it doesn't. It definitely seems to hang when replying to someone else (where the original message has a bunch of CC's, but I'm replying only to the sender) and that someone else's email address isn't in my gpg keyring, but another of their addresses is. However, when sending a freshly composed message to the same recipient, it seems to work okay, i.e. not hang. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jul 21 21:35:58 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 19:35:58 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3228] Unresponsive when selecting an "Other" key to encrypt to In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3228 --- Comment #3 from Barry Warsaw --- Created attachment 1416 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1416&action=edit --debug output -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jul 22 14:29:39 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 12:29:39 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2250] Virtual folders In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2250 --- Comment #10 from Ricardo Mones --- FWIW: there's an ongoing effort to provide this as a plugin, more info: http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/devel/2014-June/001143.html -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 23 00:22:45 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 22:22:45 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3229] New: Feature-Request: Progress bar on Export dialog Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3229 Bug ID: 3229 Summary: Feature-Request: Progress bar on Export dialog Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: UI Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: roshi at fedoraproject.org Description of Problem: I'm attempting to export messages from an IMAP server to a mbox file. Once the dialog opens, I select the input and output locations I click "OK." At this point Claws doesn't indicate that it's doing anything. You can see the progress bar in the bottom right, but it's not immediatley clear that's the progress bar you're looking for. Having the export dialog display some sort of acknowledgement of input and showing progress would be very beneficial. Other information: OS: Fedora 21 DE: Cinnamon Installed from fedora repository $ rpm -q claws-mail claws-mail-3.10.1-1.fc21.x86_64 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From linxt at comcast.net Wed Jul 23 01:41:41 2014 From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:41:41 -0700 Subject: [Users] Mark ALL as read? Message-ID: <20140722164141.514c9d40@desktop-2.home> Is there a keyboard shortcut that would mark ALL messages in the ~/Mail folder as read, not just by individual folders? Or would that be better done with a pre-processing rule? This would be useful on a secondary computer as I do ALL reading and replies on my upstairs system and have not yet migrated the ~/Mail folder to the NAS box (future project). For now the secondary computer (in basement ham shack) serves as a backup of the mail-folders or for reference only but I import mail daily to keep it current. Thanks, Tom -- "To be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others."  - Nelson Mandela ^^ --... ...-- / -.- --. --... -.-. ..-. -.-. ^^^^ Tom Taylor KG7CFC openSUSE 13.1 (64-bit), Kernel 3.11.6-4-default, KDE 4.11.2, AMD Phenom X4 955, GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Nvidia 325.15) 16GB RAM -- 3x1.5TB sata2 -- 128GB-SSD FF 27.0, claws-mail 3.10.0 registered linux user 263467 From andrej at kacian.sk Wed Jul 23 08:17:33 2014 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:17:33 +0200 Subject: [Users] Mark ALL as read? In-Reply-To: <20140722164141.514c9d40@desktop-2.home> References: <20140722164141.514c9d40@desktop-2.home> Message-ID: <20140723081733.1e35f223@penny> On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:41:41 -0700 Thomas Taylor wrote: > Is there a keyboard shortcut that would mark ALL messages in the ~/Mail > folder as read, not just by individual folders? Or would that be better > done with a pre-processing rule? > > This would be useful on a secondary computer as I do ALL reading and replies > on my upstairs system and have not yet migrated the ~/Mail folder to the NAS > box (future project). For now the secondary computer (in basement ham > shack) serves as a backup of the mail-folders or for reference only but I > import mail daily to keep it current. > > Thanks, Tom > Have a look at http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Interface#How_can_I_change_the_key-bindings_.28hot-keys.29_in_Claws_Mail.3F The option you are looking for is in main window's Message menu, Mark->Mark all read. Regards, -- Andrej Kacian From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 23 12:53:33 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 10:53:33 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3230] New: Error message "Secret key specification is ambiguous" during signing with s/mime Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3230 Bug ID: 3230 Summary: Error message "Secret key specification is ambiguous" during signing with s/mime Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.9.2 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/Privacy Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: m_cmbug at secure.mailbox.org This report is probably related to 2614 and 2778. However, the information provided in these bug reports do not resolve my problem. I use Claws Mail on Linux Mint Debian Edition. I use Kleopatra for key managment. === The Problem === I have two X.509 certificates issued on my name and email address in my keyring. These are issues by different CAs and I need both of them, so I cannot remove one or simply use the newest, as suggested in the mentioned bug reports (2614 and 2778). When I compose an email and try to sign it with s/mime Claws Mail says: "Secret key specification is ambiguous". The actual Message in my localization is "Fehler bei digitaler Signatur: Angaben zum privaten Schlüssel sind mehrdeutig.", if this is of any interest. === What should happen === I suppose Claws Mail should ask which key to use for signing or give the user another way to choose the right key. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From linxt at comcast.net Wed Jul 23 17:47:48 2014 From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:47:48 -0700 Subject: [Users] Mark ALL as read? In-Reply-To: <20140723081733.1e35f223@penny> References: <20140722164141.514c9d40@desktop-2.home> <20140723081733.1e35f223@penny> Message-ID: <20140723084748.633f7543@desktop-1.home> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:17:33 +0200 Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:41:41 -0700 > Thomas Taylor wrote: > > > Is there a keyboard shortcut that would mark ALL messages in the ~/Mail > > folder as read, not just by individual folders? Or would that be better > > done with a pre-processing rule? > > > > This would be useful on a secondary computer as I do ALL reading and replies > > on my upstairs system and have not yet migrated the ~/Mail folder to the NAS > > box (future project). For now the secondary computer (in basement ham > > shack) serves as a backup of the mail-folders or for reference only but I > > import mail daily to keep it current. > > > > Thanks, Tom > > > > Have a look at > http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Interface#How_can_I_change_the_key-bindings_.28hot-keys.29_in_Claws_Mail.3F > > The option you are looking for is in main window's Message menu, Mark->Mark > all read. > > Regards, Thanks for your response, Andrej. I already use that shortcut (shift-c) BUT it only works on the folder you are in, not the entire mailbox. I'm looking for a way to mark the entire Mailbox (MH) AND ALL sub-folders at once. Thanks, Tom -- "To be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others."  - Nelson Mandela ^^ --... ...-- / -.- --. --... -.-. ..-. -.-. ^^^^ Tom Taylor KG7CFC openSUSE 13.1 (64-bit), Kernel 3.11.6-4-default, KDE 4.11.2, AMD Phenom X4 955, GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Nvidia 337.19) 16GB RAM -- 3x1.5TB sata2 -- 128GB-SSD FF 27.0, claws-mail 3.10.0 registered linux user 263467 From andrej at kacian.sk Wed Jul 23 18:17:17 2014 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 18:17:17 +0200 Subject: [Users] Mark ALL as read? In-Reply-To: <20140723084748.633f7543@desktop-1.home> References: <20140722164141.514c9d40@desktop-2.home> <20140723081733.1e35f223@penny> <20140723084748.633f7543@desktop-1.home> Message-ID: <20140723181717.602582e3@penny> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:47:48 -0700 Thomas Taylor wrote: > Thanks for your response, Andrej. I already use that shortcut (shift-c) BUT > it only works on the folder you are in, not the entire mailbox. I'm looking > for a way to mark the entire Mailbox (MH) AND ALL sub-folders at once. My bad then, sorry about that. I should stop replying to e-mails within ten minutes after waking up. :) I do not think Claws Mail allows you to do that. On the other hand, I continue to be amazed what miracles Python plugin can do, perhaps it can be scripted. Regards, -- Andrej Kacian From andrej at kacian.sk Wed Jul 23 18:17:17 2014 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 18:17:17 +0200 Subject: [Users] Mark ALL as read? In-Reply-To: <20140723084748.633f7543@desktop-1.home> References: <20140722164141.514c9d40@desktop-2.home> <20140723081733.1e35f223@penny> <20140723084748.633f7543@desktop-1.home> Message-ID: <20140723181717.602582e3@penny> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:47:48 -0700 Thomas Taylor wrote: > Thanks for your response, Andrej. I already use that shortcut (shift-c) BUT > it only works on the folder you are in, not the entire mailbox. I'm looking > for a way to mark the entire Mailbox (MH) AND ALL sub-folders at once. My bad then, sorry about that. I should stop replying to e-mails within ten minutes after waking up. :) I do not think Claws Mail allows you to do that. On the other hand, I continue to be amazed what miracles Python plugin can do, perhaps it can be scripted. Regards, -- Andrej Kacian From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 23 18:37:00 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 16:37:00 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3231] New: segfault on unload python Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3231 Bug ID: 3231 Summary: segfault on unload python Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: pf at pfortin.com Summary says it all :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 23 18:38:25 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 16:38:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3231] segfault on unload python In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3231 --- Comment #1 from Pierre Fortin --- Argh!! It segfaults on only one instance of CM... :P Debugging... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 23 18:44:03 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 16:44:03 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3231] segfault on unload python In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3231 --- Comment #2 from Pierre Fortin --- pluginwindow.c:298:Creating plugins window... pluginwindow.c:427:called inc_lock (lock count 1) acpi_notifier.c:656:acpiprefs.file_path NULL acpi_notifier.c:656:acpiprefs.file_path NULL acpi_notifier.c:656:acpiprefs.file_path NULL plugin.c:288:removing /usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/python.so rdeps hooks.c:90:unregisted hook 1 in 'compose_created' python_plugin.c:719:Python plugin done and unloaded. [1]+ Done claws-mail Segmentation fault This instance works: pluginwindow.c:298:Creating plugins window... pluginwindow.c:427:called inc_lock (lock count 1) plugin.c:288:removing /usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/python.so rdeps hooks.c:90:unregisted hook 1 in 'compose_created' python_plugin.c:719:Python plugin done and unloaded. prefs.c:310:Found [Plugins_Common] prefs.c:310:Found [Plugins_GTK2] pluginwindow.c:77:called inc_unlock (lock count 0) When running with --debug, the instance that crashes outputs this message about once per second: acpi_notifier.c:656:acpiprefs.file_path NULL -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 23 18:48:57 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 16:48:57 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3231] segfault on unload python In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3231 --- Comment #3 from Pierre Fortin --- Instances on host "prf": #1 local on main userid(pfortin) #2 "local" on second userid via "ssh pierre at prf" Strange that the local one crashes and the 2nd over ssh doesn't... HTH -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 23 20:24:19 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 18:24:19 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3231] segfault on unload python In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3231 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|Plugins |Plugins/Python -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 23 22:14:21 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 20:14:21 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3231] segfault on unload python In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3231 --- Comment #4 from Pierre Fortin --- Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x00007f8cf227bd60 in new_threadstate () from /lib64/libpython2.7.so.1.0 (gdb) bt full #0 0x00007f8cf227bd60 in new_threadstate () from /lib64/libpython2.7.so.1.0 No symbol table info available. #1 0x00007f8cf227c60c in PyGILState_Ensure () from /lib64/libpython2.7.so.1.0 No symbol table info available. #2 0x00007f8cefb69252 in _filter_message () from /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/_dbus_bindings.so No symbol table info available. #3 0x00007f8d0f75bde6 in dbus_connection_dispatch () from /lib64/libdbus-1.so.3 No symbol table info available. #4 0x00007f8d0f99de35 in message_queue_dispatch () from /lib64/libdbus-glib-1.so.2 No symbol table info available. #5 0x00007f8d0f244146 in g_main_context_dispatch () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #6 0x00007f8d0f244498 in g_main_context_iterate.isra.24 () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #7 0x00007f8d0f24489a in g_main_loop_run () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #8 0x00007f8d12a93127 in gtk_main () from /lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 No symbol table info available. #9 0x00000000004d0f6a in main (argc=1, argv=0x7fff63964598) at main.c:1559 connection = 0xdf86e8 error = 0x0 userrc = 0xe96470 "/home/pfortin/.claws-mail/imapcache" mainwin = 0xe6e570 folderview = 0xea9810 icon = 0xe97050 crash_file_present = 0 num_folder_class = 2 asked_for_migration = 0 start_done = 0 plug_list = 0x0 never_ran = 0 mainwin_shown = 0 start = {tv_sec = 1406134151, tv_usec = 436652} end = {tv_sec = 1406134151, tv_usec = 728381} diff = {tv_sec = 0, tv_usec = 291729} timing_name = 0x6e443e "startup" __FUNCTION__ = "main" -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From berndth at gmx.de Wed Jul 23 22:16:42 2014 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:16:42 +0200 Subject: [Users] Mark ALL as read? In-Reply-To: <20140723181717.602582e3@penny> References: <20140722164141.514c9d40@desktop-2.home> <20140723081733.1e35f223@penny> <20140723084748.633f7543@desktop-1.home> <20140723181717.602582e3@penny> Message-ID: <20140723221642.7a3d96e3@wodan> On Mi, 23.07.2014 18:17, Andrej Kacian wrote: >> Thanks for your response, Andrej. I already use that shortcut (shift-c) BUT >> it only works on the folder you are in, not the entire mailbox. I'm looking >> for a way to mark the entire Mailbox (MH) AND ALL sub-folders at once. > >I do not think Claws Mail allows you to do that. On the other hand, I continue >to be amazed what miracles Python plugin can do, perhaps it can be scripted. Yes, it can be done with the Python plugin. In fact, a little extension of this functionality is even shipped as an example script: http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=blob_plain;f=src/plugins/python/examples/main/Recusively-mark-messages-as-read;hb=HEAD This script puts a further constraint on the messages to be marked as read: They must be older than 28 days. If that is not wanted, just remove all the lines mentioning "quicksearch". This version of the script considers everything below the currently selected folder or mailbox. Letting it behave differently (i.e. always consider the whole mailbox of the selected folder, or consider all mailboxes irrespective of the selected folder/mailbox) would require minor adjustments. Holger From ethy.brito at inexo.com.br Wed Jul 23 22:28:56 2014 From: ethy.brito at inexo.com.br (Ethy Brito) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:28:56 -0300 Subject: [Users] INBOX suddenly shows 0(zero) mails Message-ID: <53D01B08.4000902@inexo.com.br> Hi All This is not the first time it happens. A few minutes ago I clicked at INBOX and CM changed 3800+ email indication to ZERO! I logged into my mail server and confirmed all 3800+ are still there. I killed (SIGKILL) CM because I was afraid it in fact delete all mails. Now, as I restarted CM, it is passing all 3800+ mais thru the lengthy process of "spamassassining" them. 10 minutes has passed and only 200 were scanned. Jeez! It will take forever! What happened? Why did CM loose count of my INBOX (again)? CM is 3.10.1 Regards Ethy From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 23 22:29:39 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 20:29:39 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3231] segfault on unload python In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3231 Holger Berndt changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #5 from Holger Berndt --- I think what you're seeing is not a problem in the plugin itself, but in user code in python scripts that you let the plugin call. If your user code does something that cannot be reversed in a running process, there is nothing the plugin can do about that. I know this problem with registering on the D-Bus as it's done in the example startup script. In fact, judging from the backtrace and from the fact that your problem behaves differently whether you log in remotely via ssh or not makes it seem you're using exactly that. Marking this bug as invalid as I don't know what the plugin could do to heal this in the general case. As for the concrete D-Bus case, if somebody knows how the D-Bus registration that the startup script does can be undone in the shutdown script, I'd happily add it to the example. I'm aware that having an example script that causes problems on unload is not ideal. However, I find the use case of remote-control over D-Bus more interesting than the use case of unloading the plugin (who would ever want to do that, anyways? ;) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From pf at pfortin.com Wed Jul 23 22:42:05 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 16:42:05 -0400 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3231] segfault on unload python In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140723164205.580c9c96@pfortin.com> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 20:29:39 +0000 noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: Hi Holger! >unloading the plugin (who would ever want to do that, anyways? ;) It's been a while since I loaded Python... was really trying to see if this was how the Help->Python API Doc was added to the Help menu and stumbled upon this... Trying to find the instructions to do a better debug... (asked on IRC) Thanks for the response! Now to grok it... :) Pierre From berndth at gmx.de Wed Jul 23 22:52:01 2014 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:52:01 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3231] segfault on unload python In-Reply-To: <20140723164205.580c9c96@pfortin.com> References: <20140723164205.580c9c96@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20140723225201.16fd9e3d@wodan> On Mi, 23.07.2014 16:42, Pierre Fortin wrote: >>unloading the plugin (who would ever want to do that, anyways? ;) > >It's been a while since I loaded Python... was really trying to see if >this was how the Help->Python API Doc was added to the Help menu and >stumbled upon this... > >Trying to find the instructions to do a better debug... (asked on IRC) > >Thanks for the response! Now to grok it... :) The example startup script also adds an interface to Claws-Mail on the session bus. So, any external program can trigger Claws Mail's menu items by calling this interface. If you don't want that, comment the last line in the startup script (dbus_interface = add_dbus_interface()) by preceding it with #. If my assumption is correct, your crash on plugin-unload should go away. The correct fix would be to unregister the D-Bus service again in the "shutdown" script, but I don't know enough Python D-Bus to do that. Holger From pf at pfortin.com Wed Jul 23 23:36:37 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (pf at pfortin.com) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:36:37 -0400 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3231] segfault on unload python In-Reply-To: <20140723225201.16fd9e3d@wodan> References: <20140723164205.580c9c96@pfortin.com> <20140723225201.16fd9e3d@wodan> Message-ID: <20140723173637.02602181@pfortin.com> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:52:01 +0200 Holger Berndt wrote: >On Mi, 23.07.2014 16:42, Pierre Fortin wrote: > >>>unloading the plugin (who would ever want to do that, anyways? ;) >> >>It's been a while since I loaded Python... was really trying to see if >>this was how the Help->Python API Doc was added to the Help menu and >>stumbled upon this... >> >>Trying to find the instructions to do a better debug... (asked on IRC) >> >>Thanks for the response! Now to grok it... :) > >The example startup script also adds an interface to Claws-Mail on the >session bus. So, any external program can trigger Claws Mail's menu >items by calling this interface. > >If you don't want that, comment the last line in the startup script >(dbus_interface = add_dbus_interface()) by preceding it with #. If my >assumption is correct, your crash on plugin-unload should go away. > >The correct fix would be to unregister the D-Bus service again in the >"shutdown" script, but I don't know enough Python D-Bus to do that. Isolated it to the startup script just as your response came in... commenting that line stops the crash. Tried researching python-dbus stuff... Added this to startup: OUT = open("/tmp/CMdbus",'w') OUT.write("dbus_interface=%s\n" % dbus_interface) OUT.close() Gives: dbus_interface= at 0x3250210> but you knew that... :) So, assuming startup ends, I'm still looking for how to pass the dbus info to a shutdown script in a way to issue a close()... BTW, any objections to adding this line to the examples as first line?: # -*- Mode: python; -*- It tells emacs to load python-mode since the files don't end in .py >Holger >_______________________________________________ >Users mailing list >Users at lists.claws-mail.org >http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > From pf at pfortin.com Thu Jul 24 00:44:48 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 18:44:48 -0400 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3231] segfault on unload python In-Reply-To: <20140723225201.16fd9e3d@wodan> References: <20140723164205.580c9c96@pfortin.com> <20140723225201.16fd9e3d@wodan> Message-ID: <20140723184448.572cb8ca@pfortin.com> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:52:01 +0200 Holger Berndt wrote: >The example startup script also adds an interface to Claws-Mail on the >session bus. So, any external program can trigger Claws Mail's menu >items by calling this interface. I've been trying to test this; but everything just black-holes... Starting with your example call: dbus-send --session --type=method_call --dest=org.ClawsMail.PythonPlugin /org/ClawsMail/PythonPlugin org.ClawsMail.PythonPlugin.MainWindow.TriggerGtkAction string:'View/UpdateSummary' changed to something with simple menu names: string:'Message/Reply' does nothing either... Trying this because I don't yet see the transmogrification from say "View->Update summary" to "View/UpdateSummary" Are all menu items accessed by stripping spaces and uppercasing the first letter(s)? Ah-ha... grep "" *.c answers that... :) Sadly, my "man dbus-send" doesn't mention "method_call"; but it's "accepted"=no error (tested by changing it to "method_caller" which errors)... Am I misunderstanding? Given the current state of CM (on one of your messages), should my dbus-send open a reply window? Or...? Thanks, Pierre From himemsys36 at hotmail.com Thu Jul 24 03:00:50 2014 From: himemsys36 at hotmail.com (Tim Zakharov) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 20:00:50 -0500 Subject: [Users] INBOX suddenly shows 0(zero) mails In-Reply-To: <53D01B08.4000902@inexo.com.br> References: <53D01B08.4000902@inexo.com.br> Message-ID: On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:28:56 -0300 Ethy Brito wrote: > > Hi All > > This is not the first time it happens. > A few minutes ago I clicked at INBOX and CM changed 3800+ email > indication to ZERO! > > I logged into my mail server and confirmed all 3800+ are still there. > > I killed (SIGKILL) CM because I was afraid it in fact delete all > mails. > > Now, as I restarted CM, it is passing all 3800+ mais thru the lengthy > process of "spamassassining" them. > 10 minutes has passed and only 200 were scanned. Jeez! It will take > forever! > > What happened? Why did CM loose count of my INBOX (again)? > > CM is 3.10.1 > > Regards > > Ethy > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > Could you be inadvertently turning on Hide Read Messages from the View menu? -- Regards, Tim Zakharov From mir at miras.org Thu Jul 24 03:05:19 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 03:05:19 +0200 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3231] segfault on unload python In-Reply-To: <20140723184448.572cb8ca@pfortin.com> References: <20140723164205.580c9c96@pfortin.com> <20140723225201.16fd9e3d@wodan> <20140723184448.572cb8ca@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20140724030519.1db491d3@sleipner.datanom.net> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 18:44:48 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:52:01 +0200 Holger Berndt wrote: > > >The example startup script also adds an interface to Claws-Mail on the > >session bus. So, any external program can trigger Claws Mail's menu > >items by calling this interface. > > I've been trying to test this; but everything just black-holes... > > Starting with your example call: > dbus-send --session --type=method_call > --dest=org.ClawsMail.PythonPlugin /org/ClawsMail/PythonPlugin > org.ClawsMail.PythonPlugin.MainWindow.TriggerGtkAction > string:'View/UpdateSummary' > If you are trying to get into dbus I can highly recommend this dbus gui: https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Apps/DFeet?action=show&redirect=DFeet I have no idea whether there is a version for windows. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: Support Bingo, keep Grandma off the streets. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ethy.brito at inexo.com.br Thu Jul 24 03:44:50 2014 From: ethy.brito at inexo.com.br (Ethy H. Brito) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:44:50 -0300 Subject: [Users] INBOX suddenly shows 0(zero) mails In-Reply-To: References: <53D01B08.4000902@inexo.com.br> Message-ID: <20140723224450.19d97abc@babalu> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 20:00:50 -0500 Tim Zakharov wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:28:56 -0300 > Ethy Brito wrote: > > > > > Hi All > > > > This is not the first time it happens. > > A few minutes ago I clicked at INBOX and CM changed 3800+ email > > indication to ZERO! > > > > I logged into my mail server and confirmed all 3800+ are still there. > > > > I killed (SIGKILL) CM because I was afraid it in fact delete all > > mails. > > > > Now, as I restarted CM, it is passing all 3800+ mais thru the lengthy > > process of "spamassassining" them. > > 10 minutes has passed and only 200 were scanned. Jeez! It will take > > forever! > > > > What happened? Why did CM loose count of my INBOX (again)? > > > > CM is 3.10.1 > > > > Regards > > > > Ethy > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > Could you be inadvertently turning on Hide Read Messages from the View > menu? Nope!! The problem was in the message count at left panel (that count below the white envelope icon at folderlist panel). I was checking messages for false positives at the spam folder and clicked back at INBOX. The count was 3800+ INBOX messages and immediately after clicking it became ZERO. Last week it did that with another folder of minor importance. But this time it really erased all messages under that folder (daily backup saved me). Don't know if this is related but there are times the CM starts re-reading my INBOX (or some random folder) from the server, out of the blue. Twice! One (fast) after the other (very slow). It freezes all panels. I can not do anything for several minutes (40+ over LAN). It seems to me it is resynchronizing(!?). Is it? Why? Just imagine that over a slow line. It takes hours! IMAP problem? I think it is worth to mention that I leave CM in my Note running at home while I am at work at my desktop reading emails. Both running CM 3.10.1. Regards Ethy > > -- > Regards, > > Tim Zakharov > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 24 08:14:41 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 07:14:41 +0100 Subject: [Users] INBOX suddenly shows 0(zero) mails In-Reply-To: <20140723224450.19d97abc@babalu> References: <53D01B08.4000902@inexo.com.br> <20140723224450.19d97abc@babalu> Message-ID: <20140724071441.2dba0f72@thewildbeast> So this is about an IMAP mailbox, you didn't mention that in your first message. On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:44:50 -0300 "Ethy H. Brito" wrote: > The problem was in the message count at left panel (that count > below the white envelope icon at folderlist panel). > > I was checking messages for false positives at the spam folder and > clicked back at INBOX. > > The count was 3800+ INBOX messages and immediately after clicking > it became ZERO. Could be a corrupted cache. When/If this happens again, open the folder 'Properties' and click the 'Discard folder cache' button. > Last week it did that with another folder of minor > importance. But this time it really erased all messages under that > folder (daily backup saved me). Claws would not issue the delete command without you telling it to, so I can't see this at all. > Don't know if this is related but there are times the CM starts > re-reading my INBOX (or some random folder) from the server, out of > the blue. Twice! One (fast) after the other (very slow). It freezes > all panels. I can not do anything for several minutes (40+ over > LAN). It seems to me it is resynchronizing(!?). Is it? Why? Do you have offline synchronisation switched on? > Just imagine that over a slow line. It takes hours! > IMAP problem? Of course. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From freebsd at grem.de Thu Jul 24 08:31:40 2014 From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 08:31:40 +0200 Subject: [Users] INBOX suddenly shows 0(zero) mails In-Reply-To: <20140724071441.2dba0f72@thewildbeast> References: <53D01B08.4000902@inexo.com.br> <20140723224450.19d97abc@babalu> <20140724071441.2dba0f72@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140724083140.2d0ad23f@bsd64.grem.de> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 07:14:41 +0100 Paul wrote: > So this is about an IMAP mailbox, you didn't mention that in your > first message. > > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:44:50 -0300 > "Ethy H. Brito" wrote: > > > The problem was in the message count at left panel (that count > > below the white envelope icon at folderlist panel). > > > > I was checking messages for false positives at the spam folder and > > clicked back at INBOX. > > > > The count was 3800+ INBOX messages and immediately after clicking > > it became ZERO. > > Could be a corrupted cache. When/If this happens again, open the > folder 'Properties' and click the 'Discard folder cache' button. > > > Last week it did that with another folder of minor > > importance. But this time it really erased all messages under that > > folder (daily backup saved me). > > Claws would not issue the delete command without you telling it to, > so I can't see this at all. > > > Don't know if this is related but there are times the CM starts > > re-reading my INBOX (or some random folder) from the server, out of > > the blue. Twice! One (fast) after the other (very slow). It freezes > > all panels. I can not do anything for several minutes (40+ over > > LAN). It seems to me it is resynchronizing(!?). Is it? Why? > > Do you have offline synchronisation switched on? > > > Just imagine that over a slow line. It takes hours! > > IMAP problem? > This happens to me on a regular basis (also IMAP). Usually if I switch from another folder back to INBOX while there is still some IMAP communication going on. In this case Claws shows the message counts from the folder I switched from (unread and total). When I restart Claws it starts download headers from my INBOX (fast) and then also wants to download all messages, even though I have no filters defined that require to get the message body (well, as far as I can tell). The only way to interrupt this and save hours of downloading messages is to switch to Offline Mode, after which Claws doesn't feel the need to download all messages any more. - Michael -- Michael Gmelin From ricardo at mones.org Thu Jul 24 10:11:36 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:11:36 +0200 Subject: [Users] Mark ALL as read? In-Reply-To: <20140723221642.7a3d96e3@wodan> References: <20140722164141.514c9d40@desktop-2.home> <20140723081733.1e35f223@penny> <20140723084748.633f7543@desktop-1.home> <20140723181717.602582e3@penny> <20140723221642.7a3d96e3@wodan> Message-ID: <20140724081136.GQ12775@trasgu> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 10:16:42PM +0200, Holger Berndt wrote: > On Mi, 23.07.2014 18:17, Andrej Kacian wrote: > > >> Thanks for your response, Andrej. I already use that shortcut (shift-c) BUT > >> it only works on the folder you are in, not the entire mailbox. I'm looking > >> for a way to mark the entire Mailbox (MH) AND ALL sub-folders at once. > > > >I do not think Claws Mail allows you to do that. On the other hand, I continue > >to be amazed what miracles Python plugin can do, perhaps it can be scripted. > > Yes, it can be done with the Python plugin. In fact, a little extension > of this functionality is even shipped as an example script: > http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=blob_plain;f=src/plugins/python/examples/main/Recusively-mark-messages-as-read;hb=HEAD > > This script puts a further constraint on the messages to be marked as > read: They must be older than 28 days. If that is not wanted, just > remove all the lines mentioning "quicksearch". > > This version of the script considers everything below the currently > selected folder or mailbox. Letting it behave differently (i.e. always > consider the whole mailbox of the selected folder, or consider all > mailboxes irrespective of the selected folder/mailbox) would require > minor adjustments. Since this is not the first time this appears I've turned it into a FAQ: http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Interface#How_do_I_mark_all_messages_as_read_in_all_folders_of_a_mailbox.3F Please proofread and fix any error I may have introduced. best regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ Don't take the name of root in vain. /usr/src/linux/README -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From ethy.brito at inexo.com.br Thu Jul 24 14:43:13 2014 From: ethy.brito at inexo.com.br (Ethy H. Brito) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 09:43:13 -0300 Subject: [Users] INBOX suddenly shows 0(zero) mails In-Reply-To: <20140724071441.2dba0f72@thewildbeast> References: <53D01B08.4000902@inexo.com.br> <20140723224450.19d97abc@babalu> <20140724071441.2dba0f72@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140724094313.6abd123d@pulsar.inexo.com.br> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 07:14:41 +0100 Paul wrote: > So this is about an IMAP mailbox, you didn't mention that in your > first message. You're right, I didn't! Sorry for that. But what I did not mention either, is that my desktop neighbor, that uses pine and IMAP against the very same server, haven't experienced none of my "problems". These been: counting erros, folders resynchronization(?) and a freezed MUA. Does that new info help you to help me (us)? If you need any other info more please advice. Regards Ethy > > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:44:50 -0300 > "Ethy H. Brito" wrote: > > > The problem was in the message count at left panel (that count > > below the white envelope icon at folderlist panel). > > > > I was checking messages for false positives at the spam folder and > > clicked back at INBOX. > > > > The count was 3800+ INBOX messages and immediately after clicking > > it became ZERO. > > Could be a corrupted cache. When/If this happens again, open the > folder 'Properties' and click the 'Discard folder cache' button. > > > Last week it did that with another folder of minor > > importance. But this time it really erased all messages under that > > folder (daily backup saved me). > > Claws would not issue the delete command without you telling it to, > so I can't see this at all. > > > Don't know if this is related but there are times the CM starts > > re-reading my INBOX (or some random folder) from the server, out of > > the blue. Twice! One (fast) after the other (very slow). It freezes > > all panels. I can not do anything for several minutes (40+ over > > LAN). It seems to me it is resynchronizing(!?). Is it? Why? > > Do you have offline synchronisation switched on? > > > Just imagine that over a slow line. It takes hours! > > IMAP problem? > > Of course. > > with regards > > Paul > > > -- > Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users -- Ethy H. Brito /"\ InterNexo Ltda. \ / CAMPANHA DA FITA ASCII - CONTRA MAIL HTML +55 (12) 3797-6860 X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL S.J.Campos - Brasil / \ PGP key: http://www.inexo.com.br/~ethy/0xC3F222A0.asc From ethy.brito at inexo.com.br Thu Jul 24 15:25:15 2014 From: ethy.brito at inexo.com.br (Ethy H. Brito) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:25:15 -0300 Subject: [Users] INBOX suddenly shows 0(zero) mails In-Reply-To: <20140724071441.2dba0f72@thewildbeast> References: <53D01B08.4000902@inexo.com.br> <20140723224450.19d97abc@babalu> <20140724071441.2dba0f72@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140724102515.466cc803@pulsar.inexo.com.br> > > > > The count was 3800+ INBOX messages and immediately after clicking > > it became ZERO. > > Could be a corrupted cache. When/If this happens again, open the > folder 'Properties' and click the 'Discard folder cache' button. I will try that. That implies CM reading ALL messages from the server in the folder again, right? > > Last week it did that with another folder of minor > > importance. But this time it really erased all messages under that > > folder (daily backup saved me). > > Claws would not issue the delete command without you telling it to, > so I can't see this at all. I am pretty sure of that. Even so, all mails on that folder were erased. I checked that at server folder. It was not a simply counting error as in INBOX. "Yo no creo en brujas, pero que las hay, las hay!" from the book "Dom Quixote" - Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra As it occurred just once I assumed it was something stupid I did. (this is not a /mea culpa/) But I imagined it is worth to mention just in case someone else has had the same "problem". > > > Don't know if this is related but there are times the CM starts > > re-reading my INBOX (or some random folder) from the server, out of > > the blue. Twice! One (fast) after the other (very slow). It freezes > > all panels. I can not do anything for several minutes (40+ over > > LAN). It seems to me it is resynchronizing(!?). Is it? Why? > > Do you have offline synchronisation switched on? How to check that? Do you mean Offline mode? No. > > > Just imagine that over a slow line. It takes hours! > > IMAP problem? > > Of course. Lol! Thanx for the empathy. ;-) Ethy From pf at pfortin.com Thu Jul 24 15:35:17 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 09:35:17 -0400 Subject: [Users] INBOX suddenly shows 0(zero) mails In-Reply-To: <20140723224450.19d97abc@babalu> References: <53D01B08.4000902@inexo.com.br> <20140723224450.19d97abc@babalu> Message-ID: <20140724093517.3d76b254@pfortin.com> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:44:50 -0300 Ethy H. Brito wrote: >I think it is worth to mention that I leave CM in my Note running at home >while I am at work at my desktop reading emails. Both running CM 3.10.1. Any children at home who enjoy moving stuff to trash? Funny; but I had such a case with a friend a while back... LOL Cheers, Pierre From ethy.brito at inexo.com.br Thu Jul 24 15:41:36 2014 From: ethy.brito at inexo.com.br (Ethy H. Brito) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:41:36 -0300 Subject: [Users] INBOX suddenly shows 0(zero) mails In-Reply-To: <20140724083140.2d0ad23f@bsd64.grem.de> References: <53D01B08.4000902@inexo.com.br> <20140723224450.19d97abc@babalu> <20140724071441.2dba0f72@thewildbeast> <20140724083140.2d0ad23f@bsd64.grem.de> Message-ID: <20140724104136.2c66d1c4@pulsar.inexo.com.br> > > > > > Just imagine that over a slow line. It takes hours! > > > IMAP problem? > > > > This happens to me on a regular basis (also IMAP). Usually if I > switch from another folder back to INBOX while there is still some IMAP > communication going on. In this case Claws shows the message counts > from the folder I switched from (unread and total). When I restart > Claws it starts download headers from my INBOX (fast) and then also > wants to download all messages, even though I have no filters defined > that require to get the message body (well, as far as I can tell). The > only way to interrupt this and save hours of downloading messages is to > switch to Offline Mode, after which Claws doesn't feel the need to > download all messages any more. I only saw this "folder name" x "count mismatch" when CM is re-syncing. It shows folder name "X" with total mail count for the clicked folder at the foot page progress bar. Ethy From pf at pfortin.com Thu Jul 24 15:42:33 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 09:42:33 -0400 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3231] segfault on unload python In-Reply-To: <20140724030519.1db491d3@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20140723164205.580c9c96@pfortin.com> <20140723225201.16fd9e3d@wodan> <20140723184448.572cb8ca@pfortin.com> <20140724030519.1db491d3@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20140724094233.44410e8e@pfortin.com> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 03:05:19 +0200 Michael Rasmussen wrote: >If you are trying to get into dbus I can highly recommend this dbus >gui: >https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Apps/DFeet?action=show&redirect=DFeet Thanks for the clue!! Surprise! It's packaged with Mageia4. :) >I have no idea whether there is a version for windows. I can't imagine anyone caring... LOL Pierre (exclusively Linux user since 1998; though I support friends' W*) From ethy.brito at inexo.com.br Thu Jul 24 15:44:50 2014 From: ethy.brito at inexo.com.br (Ethy H. Brito) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:44:50 -0300 Subject: [Users] INBOX suddenly shows 0(zero) mails In-Reply-To: <20140724093517.3d76b254@pfortin.com> References: <53D01B08.4000902@inexo.com.br> <20140723224450.19d97abc@babalu> <20140724093517.3d76b254@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20140724104450.0f4941a1@pulsar.inexo.com.br> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 09:35:17 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:44:50 -0300 Ethy H. Brito wrote: > > >I think it is worth to mention that I leave CM in my Note running at home > >while I am at work at my desktop reading emails. Both running CM 3.10.1. > > Any children at home who enjoy moving stuff to trash? Funny; but I had > such a case with a friend a while back... LOL In my case, that would be grand-children. But they were not "ordered" yet! I heard that once about a cat that liked to sleep over it's owners keyboard. Cheers Ethy > > Cheers, > Pierre > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users -- Ethy H. Brito /"\ InterNexo Ltda. \ / CAMPANHA DA FITA ASCII - CONTRA MAIL HTML +55 (12) 3797-6860 X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL S.J.Campos - Brasil / \ PGP key: http://www.inexo.com.br/~ethy/0xC3F222A0.asc From barry at python.org Thu Jul 24 17:42:45 2014 From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 11:42:45 -0400 Subject: [Users] INBOX suddenly shows 0(zero) mails References: <53D01B08.4000902@inexo.com.br> <20140723224450.19d97abc@babalu> <20140724071441.2dba0f72@thewildbeast> <20140724083140.2d0ad23f@bsd64.grem.de> Message-ID: <20140724114245.0fb0df7e@anarchist.wooz.org> On Jul 24, 2014, at 08:31 AM, Michael Gmelin wrote: >This happens to me on a regular basis (also IMAP). Usually if I >switch from another folder back to INBOX while there is still some IMAP >communication going on. In this case Claws shows the message counts >from the folder I switched from (unread and total). When I restart >Claws it starts download headers from my INBOX (fast) and then also >wants to download all messages, even though I have no filters defined >that require to get the message body (well, as far as I can tell). The >only way to interrupt this and save hours of downloading messages is to >switch to Offline Mode, after which Claws doesn't feel the need to >download all messages any more. Claws does occasionally get out of sync between the folder view and the message view, if you click on different folders quickly enough. For me, usually just clicking away to a different folder and then back e.g. to Inbox will resync them. -Barry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From pf at pfortin.com Thu Jul 24 19:14:17 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:14:17 -0400 Subject: [Users] CLUE?: where's the window creation code... Message-ID: <20140724131417.5e2c2550@pfortin.com> Hi, I have a new machine and setting it all up from scratch... Previously, copying everything (probably old v. new setting conflicts) has led to weird system problems which aren't there (so far) with fresh all. Anyway, now using KDE's System Settings->Window Behavior->Advanced, Window Tabbing: [X] Automatically group similar windows I like that it reduces a lot of window clutter; but... there's always a "but"... :) I know I'll probably have to modify the code myself to do the following; but I need a clue... 1. Location of call where CM opens the main window 2. Location of call where CM opens compose windows There is a difference between those 2 calls which causes KDE to treat main and compose as "not similar" -- that's actually OK/good IMHO... However, if I open multiple compose(compose,reply,forward,...), these are treated as "similar" and are grouped into a single tabbed window. In actual use, I'm finding this dangerous because Send on one message is so fast that the next message pops up in the sent one's place. Almost clicked Send again (more than once)... :P Also, I've had some cases where clicks got repeated so fast that I got multiple windows/actions, so I can envision accidentally sending unfinished messages; or some I changed my mind about sending... :/ Anyway, my goal is to find what, in how CM opens windows, causes KDE to consider CM's main and compose windows "non similar", thereby not grouping them. Then, I'm hoping to add something to each compose window to make them dissimilar to KDE... Hope that's clear.... Thanks for any clue, Pierre PS I have been searching through the 226 .c files in src; but that's tedious without knowing precisely what strings to search for... some look promising; but... :) From brad at fineby.me.uk Thu Jul 24 20:24:08 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:24:08 +0100 Subject: [Users] CLUE?: where's the window creation code... In-Reply-To: <20140724131417.5e2c2550@pfortin.com> References: <20140724131417.5e2c2550@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20140724192408.7d08e464@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:14:17 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote: Hello Pierre, >Anyway, my goal is to find what, in how CM opens windows, causes KDE to >consider CM's main and compose windows "non similar", thereby not >grouping them. Then, I'm hoping to add something to each compose window >to make them dissimilar to KDE... Rather than (re)write CM code, look at KDE's Window/Application settings. I'm not 100% sure you can do what you're after with them, but they're worth investigating as they enable you to overrule default behaviour. Hopefully, one of the settings will allow you to override the grouping together of multiple compose windows. Right click the compose window's title bar, then select "More Actions > Special Window Settings". You'll need to match on Compose Window (substring) and then start fiddling with options that look as though they might affect grouping/tabbing of compose windows. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" The public wants what the public gets Going Underground - The Jam -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm not 100% sure you can do what you're after with them, but >they're worth investigating as they enable you to overrule default >behaviour. Hopefully, one of the settings will allow you to override >the grouping together of multiple compose windows. > >Right click the compose window's title bar, then select "More Actions > >Special Window Settings". You'll need to match on Compose Window >(substring) and then start fiddling with options that look as though they >might affect grouping/tabbing of compose windows. Dang... awesome answer!! Details for anyone else interested: More Actions (access via Window Menu button on titlebar)[1] -> Special Application Settings -> Arrangement & Access enable: Autogroup with identical + Force + No Initially, it appeared to operate on the initial message-specific Reply; but it's OK now... for a few moments, I thought I'd still need to attack the window "Role" CM{mainwindow,compose} to unique-ify the "compose" role. Global window grouping with specific exclusions.... WOW!!! :) :) You da man!!! THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pierre [1] In my case, right-click is set to send window to the back; but there is a Window Menu at top-left in Oxygen (default) theme. From pf at pfortin.com Fri Jul 25 02:17:41 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 20:17:41 -0400 Subject: [Users] DBUS [was: Re: [Bug 3231] segfault on unload python] Message-ID: <20140724201741.04a29baa@pfortin.com> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 03:05:19 +0200 Michael Rasmussen wrote: >If you are trying to get into dbus I can highly recommend this dbus >gui: >https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Apps/DFeet?action=show&redirect=DFeet Cool stuff... using Holger's ~/.claws-mail/python-scripts/auto/startup script, and d-feet: - select Session Bus - double-click on org.ClawsMail.PythonPlugin - enter "Message/Reply" (quotes required) into the top panel - click Execute Dbus returns nothing; but a Reply compose window opens... Looks like the start of some fun stuff... :) Pierre From itz at buug.org Fri Jul 25 05:44:39 2014 From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 20:44:39 -0700 Subject: [Users] Trojan Found in Windows Version of CM In-Reply-To: <20140706202838.11bcad9b@mike> References: <20140705072856.00006fa2@hiwaay.net> <20140706202838.11bcad9b@mike> Message-ID: <20140724204439.4bbd89a7.itz@buug.org> On Sun, 6 Jul 2014 20:28:38 +0200 Colin Leroy wrote: Emily> My Norton anti-virus claims to have found a Trojan in Claws Mail: Colin> And of course report to us if it's a real positive and my GPG Colin> signature on the installer matches... I'd be rather worried I Colin> could build binaries with a trojan embedded, from my Linux Colin> workstation. Has this been closed one way or another? -- Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I often forget that the window menu is available from the there; I always access it from title bar, because I find it easier. Plus, I haven't (re)assigned right click to another function. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" I'll be the rubbish you'll be the bin Love Song - The Damned -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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My Compose key is the Pause key; this is configured by the following line in /etc/default/keyboard on a Debian system: XKBOPTIONS="terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp,compose:paus" So, to enter "í" for example, I type (and release) Pause, then the "'" key, and finally the "i" key. This works everywhere - in old style X programs like rxvt, in Gtk programs like Geeqie, in Emacs, in Firefox. But not in Claws, at least not in the message search input box I get by typing "/" when I'm browsing the message list. Entering "í" as above works, but not "á". When I try to follow the procedure for entering "á", I get a plain "a" instead, and to erase the "a" I need to hit Backspace twice. I suspect this has something to do with the extra keybindings that must be in effect when the search box is focused, such as Escape for hiding the search box. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From clifflaine at europe.com Fri Jul 25 20:40:57 2014 From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:40:57 +0100 Subject: [Users] CM not persisting in state Message-ID: <0MFM1a-1XGE3j29TQ-00EItV@mail.gmx.com> Hello all, this isn't a question but more a comment. I installed Lubuntu today, whose native email client is Sylpheed, which I am using to post this. I installed CM from the repositories, and changed lots of default settings (mainly the stupid default American date format), width of columns, and so on. I then logged out, and rebooted, to test the stability of the parameters I had set. It doesn't preserve them between boots or logins. I reverted to Sylpheed and it does. I would prefer to use CM. My only guess is that perhaps I have not specified the command line accurately in the autostart programs in Lubuntu. It isn't easy to add programs to Autostart -- you have to know the precise command line with all the arguments and add them to some file buried in some branch of usr. However, I think one should still try. Is there a command line with arguments that would preserve my CM set-up between logouts and reboots? Cliff From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Jul 25 21:04:05 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 20:04:05 +0100 Subject: [Users] CM not persisting in state In-Reply-To: <0MFM1a-1XGE3j29TQ-00EItV@mail.gmx.com> References: <0MFM1a-1XGE3j29TQ-00EItV@mail.gmx.com> Message-ID: <20140725200405.633f7760@thewildbeast> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:40:57 +0100 Cliff Laine wrote: > However, I think one should still try. Is there a command line with > arguments that would preserve my CM set-up between logouts and > reboots? Claws saves settings on exit. So there's no need for this. (Anyway, see `man claws-mail` and `claws-mail --help` for options.) The question is, how do you quit Claws? with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From geoff at hughes.net Sat Jul 26 05:54:43 2014 From: geoff at hughes.net (Geoffrey Leach) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 20:54:43 -0700 Subject: [Users] specifying SMPT server Message-ID: <1406346883.30697.2@puget.mtranch.com> Configuration/Account preferences SMPT sserver I say smpt.foo.net:smpt, and the log shows me as logging in to smpt.foo.net:smpt.0 which gets the error "unknown host". So, how can I suppress the ":0"? From albert.aribaud at free.fr Sat Jul 26 07:54:46 2014 From: albert.aribaud at free.fr (Albert ARIBAUD) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 07:54:46 +0200 Subject: [Users] specifying SMPT server In-Reply-To: <1406346883.30697.2@puget.mtranch.com> References: <1406346883.30697.2@puget.mtranch.com> Message-ID: <20140726075446.0c10d1eb@lilith> Hi Geoffrey, Le Fri, 25 Jul 2014 20:54:43 -0700, Geoffrey Leach a écrit : > Configuration/Account preferences SMPT sserver > > I say smpt.foo.net:smpt, and the log shows me as logging in to smpt.foo.net:smpt.0 which gets the error "unknown host". So, how can I suppress the ":0"? I see several problems here: 1) (I suspect) you mistyped "smtp" in "smpt" everywhere. 2) You mistyped ":0" at the end of your question; it is ".0". 3) the SMTP port is not specified along with the SMTP server name in the General tab; it is specified in the Advanced tab, and needs not be specified at all if it is the standard SMTP port. Now, why did Claws Mail add ".0" to the mistyped server name, I have no idea, but I guess this should be fixed by setting the right SMTP server name and port in the right places. HTH. Amicalement, -- Albert. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Jul 26 08:51:24 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 07:51:24 +0100 Subject: [Users] specifying SMPT server In-Reply-To: <1406346883.30697.2@puget.mtranch.com> References: <1406346883.30697.2@puget.mtranch.com> Message-ID: <20140726075124.10755fa4@thewildbeast> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 20:54:43 -0700 Geoffrey Leach wrote: > Configuration/Account preferences SMPT sserver > > I say smpt.foo.net:smpt, and the log shows me as logging in to > smpt.foo.net:smpt.0 which gets the error "unknown host". So, how > can I suppress the ":0"? On the 'Basic' page of your account preferences, for SMTP server use only 'smtp.foo.net'. Do not put the port (:smtp) in here. The port (:smtp) is always a number and never letters, so it can never be ':smtp' anyway. If you want to add a port (rather than use the default port) then go to the Advanced page of the account preferences and add it here. You are seeing the ":0" in the error message because you have set the SMTP port to be '0' on the Advanced page. What you want to do is not set the port, (and certainly not set it as '0'), or set it correctly. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From clifflaine at europe.com Sat Jul 26 10:32:13 2014 From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 09:32:13 +0100 Subject: [Users] CM not persisting in state In-Reply-To: <20140725200405.633f7760@thewildbeast> References: <0MFM1a-1XGE3j29TQ-00EItV@mail.gmx.com> <20140725200405.633f7760@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140726093213.47a4566a@marjorie-MXC061> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 20:04:05 +0100 Paul wrote: > On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:40:57 +0100 > Cliff Laine wrote: > > > Is there a command line with > > arguments that would preserve my CM set-up between logouts and > > reboots? > > Claws saves settings on exit. So there's no need for this. (Anyway, > see `man claws-mail` and `claws-mail --help` for options.) The > question is, how do you quit Claws? > Thanks Paul. It seems to be OK this morning! No idea what I was doing. Maybe it prefers closing with Ctrl+Q. I normally just shutdown without closing every program. Cliff From CAE at eslrahc.com Sat Jul 26 10:43:56 2014 From: CAE at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 04:43:56 -0400 Subject: [Users] CM not persisting in state In-Reply-To: <20140726093213.47a4566a@marjorie-MXC061> References: <0MFM1a-1XGE3j29TQ-00EItV@mail.gmx.com> <20140725200405.633f7760@thewildbeast> <20140726093213.47a4566a@marjorie-MXC061> Message-ID: <20140726044356.155b6472@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 09:32:13 +0100 Cliff Laine wrote: > > Claws saves settings on exit. So there's no need for this. (Anyway, > > see `man claws-mail` and `claws-mail --help` for options.) The > > question is, how do you quit Claws? > > > > Thanks Paul. It seems to be OK this morning! No idea what I was doing. > Maybe it prefers closing with Ctrl+Q. I normally just shutdown without > closing every program. When you shutdown without closing Claws the settings are not saved. It behaves the same as it would following a crash. Charles -- Thou shalt not commit adultery -- Murphy's Laws on Sex n°38 ---------------------- Mageia release 5 (Cauldron) for x86_64$ On SuperSize....http://www.eslrahc.com Registered Linux user #182463 3.15.6-server-1.mga5 x86_64 ---------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From clifflaine at europe.com Sat Jul 26 11:58:07 2014 From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 10:58:07 +0100 Subject: [Users] CM not persisting in state In-Reply-To: <20140726044356.155b6472@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> References: <0MFM1a-1XGE3j29TQ-00EItV@mail.gmx.com> <20140725200405.633f7760@thewildbeast> <20140726093213.47a4566a@marjorie-MXC061> <20140726044356.155b6472@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> Message-ID: <20140726105807.638427fe@marjorie-MXC061> On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 04:43:56 -0400 Charles A Edwards wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 09:32:13 +0100 > Cliff Laine wrote: > > > > Claws saves settings on exit. So there's no need for this. > > > (Anyway, see `man claws-mail` and `claws-mail --help` for > > > options.) The question is, how do you quit Claws? > > > > > > > Thanks Paul. It seems to be OK this morning! No idea what I was > > doing. Maybe it prefers closing with Ctrl+Q. I normally just > > shutdown without closing every program. > > When you shutdown without closing Claws the settings are not saved. > It behaves the same as it would following a crash. > > Thank you Charles -- I'll try to remember to do that. Cliff From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jul 27 03:49:32 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 01:49:32 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3233] New: confirm large folder moves Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3233 Bug ID: 3233 Summary: confirm large folder moves Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: All Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: Folders Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: pf at pfortin.com I generally don't care for "Confirm" dialogs... but... Due to a flaky mouse, while scrolling the folder list, my system got a 'move folder' event. The folder that got accidentally grabbed/moved has 273 sub-folders and nearly 28000 messages. Searched for hidden confirm/move options; but none found. This "move" brought to light that, accidental or deliberate, large moves take quite a while and there's no way to stop/abort the process. Even [fg+]Ctrl-Z is ignored until the move completes. Could a confirm dialog be added? Stopping a move is another option, though it probably would only be possible between folders... and only if cache and filter updates happen in sync with the moves. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jul 27 04:00:44 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 02:00:44 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3233] confirm large folder moves In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3233 --- Comment #1 from Pierre Fortin --- Re Ctrl-Z... ignore that comment. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jul 27 07:46:24 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 05:46:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3233] confirm large folder moves In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3233 --- Comment #2 from brad at fineby.me.uk --- By default, CM *does* display a "Confirm Move" dialog. It also has a check box that allows you to disable it for future moves. Maybe you inadvertently disabled the confirm dialog some time in the past. Look for warn_dnd in CM's prefs file. Probably from 0 to 1. With CM *not* running, obviously. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jul 27 07:47:44 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 05:47:44 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3233] confirm large folder moves In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3233 --- Comment #3 from brad at fineby.me.uk --- Damn. That should read: ....warn_dnd. Change it, probably from 0 to 1...... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Jul 27 10:08:27 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 08:08:27 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3233] confirm large folder moves In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3233 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jul 28 09:23:22 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 07:23:22 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3228] Unresponsive when selecting an "Other" key to encrypt to In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3228 --- Comment #4 from Paul --- Are you able to test this with the latest release? Do you have overlay-scrollbar-gtk2 installed? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jul 28 09:24:57 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 07:24:57 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3205] deadlock while checking the signature In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3205 --- Comment #1 from Paul --- can you reproduce this with the latest release? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jul 28 09:51:36 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 07:51:36 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2115] Drag n' Drop of files with special characters crashes CM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2115 --- Comment #2 from Ricardo Mones --- This needs some backtrace of the crash, can you get one? https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/How_to_get_a_backtrace_with_WinDbg -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jul 28 09:53:21 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 07:53:21 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3034] Hang when close Preference for current account In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3034 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #3 from Paul --- appears that it should be fixed by upgrading to GTK+ 2.24.22 or newer. Re-open if you still get this problem after the GTK+ upgrade. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jul 28 10:49:58 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 08:49:58 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3205] deadlock while checking the signature In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3205 --- Comment #2 from Mihai Dontu --- I have no reliable way to reproduce this, even with the version on which I first observed it. As far as I can tell, 3.10.1 is behaving OK and since I use it on a daily basis, I'll wait another month or so before I'll declare this issue fixed. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Jul 28 10:59:16 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 08:59:16 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3205] deadlock while checking the signature In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3205 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jul 29 13:22:47 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 11:22:47 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3234] New: Add CardDav support in AddressBook Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3234 Bug ID: 3234 Summary: Add CardDav support in AddressBook Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: UI/Address Book Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: lordphoenix at tuxfamily.org It could be useful to add CardDav standard protocol support in claws-mail addressbook to be able to synchronize contact list with cloud services and distinct devices as mobile phone or tablet. It's a standard more available for public user than LDAP… -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jul 29 13:29:46 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 11:29:46 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3234] Add CardDav support in AddressBook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3234 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE --- Comment #1 from Paul --- *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 2658 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jul 29 13:29:46 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 11:29:46 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2658] CardDav support In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2658 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |lordphoenix at tuxfamily.org --- Comment #8 from Paul --- *** Bug 3234 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jul 29 13:39:34 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 11:39:34 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2658] CardDav support In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2658 --- Comment #9 from Klorydryk --- I'm using Owncloud. It is very useful to connect my carddav to my mail manager! Thx. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jul 29 21:15:14 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 19:15:14 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3235] New: Extraneous double quotes inside base64-encoded From header confuse 'Reply' action Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3235 Bug ID: 3235 Summary: Extraneous double quotes inside base64-encoded From header confuse 'Reply' action Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Actions Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: mgorny at gentoo.org We have a person using Thunderbird whose mails carry the following header: From: =?UTF-8?B?IlBhd2XFgiBIYWpkYW4sIEpyLiI=?= If you decode the base64, you'd see (with literal double quotes): "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." In the message view, the header is displayed as: From: "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." If I click the address, everything works fine. However, if I try to reply to him, claws-mail splits the address into two parts: To: ""Paweł Hajdan To: Jr."" which obviously results in broken mail that gets queued and refused by server afterwards. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Jul 29 21:19:58 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 19:19:58 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3235] Extraneous double quotes inside base64-encoded From header confuse 'Reply' action In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3235 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|UI/Actions |Other -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 30 10:22:00 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 08:22:00 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3235] Extraneous double quotes inside base64-encoded From header confuse 'Reply' action In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3235 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2014-07-30 09:32:02.363164584 +0200 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=807f4be67d162e17f73bd400329f6751edf266f5 Merge: b7210ae 9b59699 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Wed Jul 30 09:32:01 2014 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b59699c9ede6cedd022cced9b1afe15aca0ff22 Author: Paul Date: Wed Jul 30 08:31:03 2014 +0100 fix bug 3235, 'Extraneous double quotes inside base64-encoded From header confuse 'Reply' action' -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 30 12:24:44 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 10:24:44 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3236] New: sc_html_parse_tag() does not recognize '
' as line break Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3236 Bug ID: 3236 Summary: sc_html_parse_tag() does not recognize '
' as line break Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: PC OS: FreeBSD Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Message View Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: fk at fabiankeil.de sc_html_parse_tag() does not recognize '
' as line break. This can result in the HTML-encoded message losing more of the intended formatting than necessary. It's especially unpleasant if the HTML-encoded message is an OpenPGP-encrypted message (pasted into a web-based MUA) in which case the lost line breaks have to be added back before the message can be decrypted. I'll submit a patch once I have the bug id. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 30 12:28:39 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 10:28:39 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3236] sc_html_parse_tag() does not recognize '
' as line break In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3236 --- Comment #1 from Fabian Keil --- Created attachment 1417 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1417&action=edit Fix bug 3236: "sc_html_parse_tag() does not recognize '
' as line break" -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 30 14:00:41 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 12:00:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3236] sc_html_parse_tag() does not recognize '
' as line break In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3236 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #2 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2014-07-30 13:59:02.016903227 +0200 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=77e5b54e83c532973fcf782440bf524d0f335053 Merge: 807f4be 6e2217d Author: Colin Leroy Date: Wed Jul 30 13:59:01 2014 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e2217d5bb5722a5426158f49bcaed95005a28f6 Author: Paul Date: Wed Jul 30 12:58:18 2014 +0100 fix bug 3236, 'sc_html_parse_tag() does not recognize '
' as line break' Patch by Fabian Keil. --- Comment #3 from Paul --- thanks!! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 30 16:55:34 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 14:55:34 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3237] New: Can't open auto saved drafts in drafts folder Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3237 Bug ID: 3237 Summary: Can't open auto saved drafts in drafts folder Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Folders/IMAP Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: mail at dreieinhalb.net When I write a new mail, it's auto saved to drafts folder after some time and claws mail displays unread messages in the drafts folder (formerly it didn't display unread messages). When I now open the drafts folder and want to set the unread draft to read status, it didn't work. Claws Mail displays the following error: "This message can't be displayed. This is probably due to a network error..." I don't see an IMAP error message in the log. I asked my mail provider, if there is a problem with the mail server, but he says it looks all fine. The problem occurs both on my PC and laptop under Arch Linux. I tested it with a GIT version from AUR, but I had the same problem. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 30 17:01:43 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:01:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3237] Can't open auto saved drafts in drafts folder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3237 --- Comment #1 from Dominik Volkamer --- When I restart Claws Mail, I can open the unread drafts. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 30 17:43:34 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:43:34 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3237] Can't open auto saved drafts in drafts folder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3237 --- Comment #2 from Paul --- Works fine here. What IMAP server are you using? You didn't say what happened between the message displaying as unread in the drafts folder and you trying to open it from there. E.g., did you use 'save to drafts folder'? Are you able to reproduce this? Do you know if it functioned correctly on the same server previously? If you can reproduce this, start Claws with `claws-mail --debug` and include the debug output. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 30 20:03:54 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:03:54 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3237] Can't open auto saved drafts in drafts folder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3237 --- Comment #3 from Dominik Volkamer --- (In reply to comment #2) > What IMAP server are you using? I'm sorry I don't know at the moment which IMAP server is used by my provider, but I can ask them. Maybe it's dovecot. > You didn't say what happened between the message displaying as unread in the > drafts folder and you trying to open it from there. E.g., did you use 'save > to drafts folder'? I don't use the save to drafts folder option, but claws mails auto save as draft feature. And I have to say that I don't use the Trash folder, but mark mails only as deleted (and let display also the as deleted marked ones). The described problem occurs only with the drafts claws mails has auto saved and marked as deleted automatically again because there's a newer draft of the same mail. > Are you able to reproduce this? Yes, I can. Every time when I open Claws Mail, compose a new mail and write some text in it, the problem occurs. > Do you know if it functioned correctly on the same server previously? Yes it functioned correctly for a long time (but I don't know if my provider changed something at the server). Maybe the problem occurs since the new Claws Mail version 3.10.1, but I can say it for sure. > If you can reproduce this, start Claws with `claws-mail --debug` and include > the debug output. I attached the debug output (in which I removed some personal infos like names of folders). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Jul 30 20:05:24 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:05:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3237] Can't open auto saved drafts in drafts folder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3237 --- Comment #4 from Dominik Volkamer --- Created attachment 1418 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1418&action=edit Output of `claws-mail --debug` as requested -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 31 04:33:41 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 02:33:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3232] Non-ASCII character entry in the search box misbehaves In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3232 --- Comment #1 from nobrowser at gmail.com --- Verified that it is present in 3.10.1 as well. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 31 11:20:39 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 09:20:39 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3237] Can't open auto saved drafts in drafts folder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3237 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #5 from Paul --- (In reply to comment #3) > I don't use the save to drafts folder option, but claws mails auto save as > draft feature. Claws Mail won't auto-save to the drafts folder unless you have configured it to do so. See /Configuration/Preferences/Compose/Writing, 'Automatically save messages to Drafts ....' option. > And I have to say that I don't use the Trash folder, but mark > mails only as deleted (and let display also the as deleted marked ones). The > described problem occurs only with the drafts claws mails has auto saved and > marked as deleted automatically again because there's a newer draft of the > same mail. The problem appears to be that you have auto-save to drafts switched on, but are deleting the draft copy whilst in the middle of writing the message. If you don't want the message to be auto-drafted, then turn off the option. If I've misunderstood you, then re-open and explain further. Thanks. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 31 12:39:26 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:39:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3237] Can't open auto saved drafts in drafts folder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3237 Dominik Volkamer changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID |--- --- Comment #6 from Dominik Volkamer --- (In reply to comment #5) > Claws Mail won't auto-save to the drafts folder unless you have configured > it to do so. See /Configuration/Preferences/Compose/Writing, 'Automatically > save messages to Drafts ....' option. Ok, I thought auto-save to the drafts folder is enabled by default, but it seems that I have configured this a while ago. But I like this feature and don't want to set it to disable, because it's very comfortable to have a automatic copy. > The problem appears to be that you have auto-save to drafts switched on, but > are deleting the draft copy whilst in the middle of writing the message. Yes, this might be the problem but I still think this is a bug, because not *I* delete the draft copy manually but Claws Mail does it by itself automatically once a newer version of the copy exisits (and theses mails cause the described error). Formerly I didn't see any unread mail in draft folder. It worked automatically that Claws Mails saved the new composed mail to the draft folder, set the unread flag and deleted the copies once there was a newer version of the copy or I pressed the send button. I liked this behavior because I rarely had to open the draft folder but even so I knew that there are some copies of my composed mail in this folder. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 31 13:04:43 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 11:04:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3237] Can't open auto saved drafts in drafts folder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3237 --- Comment #7 from Dominik Volkamer --- I noticed just now that the described error message is only displayed in the split preview (below the list of messages). When I open one draft copy with the error in a new window it is displayed correctly again. Very strange. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 31 13:44:37 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 11:44:37 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3237] Can't open auto saved drafts in drafts folder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3237 --- Comment #8 from Paul --- Now I'm confused. So what is the actual problem that you are reporting? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 31 16:47:06 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 14:47:06 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3238] New: GPG Mime Plugin exports contents to a tmpfile unnecessarily Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3238 Bug ID: 3238 Summary: GPG Mime Plugin exports contents to a tmpfile unnecessarily Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/Privacy Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: thekevinday at gmail.com Created attachment 1419 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1419&action=edit A patch to claws-mail to use gpgme_data_new_from_filepart() instead of gpgme_data_new_from_file(). (I didn't see a Plugins/PGPCore option, hopefully Plugins/Privacy is correct enough.) The code in src/plugins/pgpcore/sgpgme.c creates a tmpfile to populate the gpgme_data_t variable. The function currently being called is: gpgme_data_new_from_file(). The mime data already contains the e-mail file and the relevant mime coordinates, so why not just use the function gpgme_data_new_from_filepart()? Creating a tmpfile seems unneccessary and wastefull. Especially when one runs off a flashdisk that has a limited number of writes! Or perhaps on a read-only filesystem, when one needs to check e-mails but not download any new ones? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Jul 31 23:43:29 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 21:43:29 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3237] Can't open auto saved drafts in drafts folder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3237 --- Comment #9 from Dominik Volkamer --- (In reply to comment #8) > Now I'm confused. So what is the actual problem that you are reporting? Sorry for confusion. It's a little bit hard to explain, but I try it again. I now checked if the problem has something to do with my old config folder (.claws-mail). So I made a backup of it and created a whole new config. I discovered that the problem only occurs when the option "Move deleted mails to trash and expunge immediately" is *not* set. So the steps to reproduce the problem on my systems are: 1. open Claws Mail and click on compose/write new mail 2. write something in the mail til the autosave feature made for example 3 copies 3. now it shows 3 new unread messages in draft folder, even though they are marked already as deleted by claws mail itself (formerly claws mail didn't show new unread messages in draft folder and this is the behavior I prefered) 4. send the mail And after that steps it disturbs me that I have new unread messages in draft folder. So 5. I change to drafts folder and select one of the unread already marked as deleted mail and want the status set to read (which is normally done when the mail is shown in the preview under the message list) but in the preview it says: "This message can't be displayed. This is probably due to a network error..." And now there are three workaround options: - press Ctrl + E to expunge in the draft folder - open all three (already deleted) copys in a new window - restart claws mail I hope you now understand what's the problem and maybe even can reproduce it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.