From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 1 14:40:33 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2014 13:40:33 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3075] New: charset problem when using PGP/Inline encryption Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3075 Bug ID: 3075 Summary: charset problem when using PGP/Inline encryption Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: other Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Message View Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: thomasbellmann at gmx.net (I post this as proxy for a user who mailed me the issue.) A mail the user received was sent with ISO-8859-1 and contains PGP/Inline encrypted data. These are shown in Claws Message view as --- Anfang der PGP/Inline verschlüsselten Daten --- [...] --- Ende der der PGP/Inline verschlüsselten Daten --- where "ü" should be "ü" The umlauts in the mail text are displayed correct. Assumption: The translated message from /usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/claws-mail.mo is coded as UTF-8 and gets displayed in the ISO-8859-1 encoded mail incorrect. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 1 18:43:46 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2014 17:43:46 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3075] charset problem when using PGP/Inline encryption In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3075 --- Comment #1 from Thomas Bellmann --- Created attachment 1325 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1325&action=edit Screenshot of broken umlauts at PGP/Mime encryption -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From alb348 at gmail.com Sat Feb 1 23:07:31 2014 From: alb348 at gmail.com (alb348 at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2014 23:07:31 +0100 Subject: [Users] Setting automatically a BBC copy for every outgoing message Message-ID: <52ED7023.1020501@gmail.com> Hi I normally use an SMTP server that lets me send messages bearing any 'From' address that I choose. For instance, I set the 'From' address of my outgoing emails to match that of my Gmail account, so that the recipients will think that my email was sent from my Gmail account, while in fact it wasn't. This is great, because the SMTP server I use masks my IP address (whereas Gmail's SMTP server will always include the sender's IP address in the email headers). I have a question for Claws Mail experts: is there a way to *automatically* send a BBC copy of each outgoing message to my actual Gmail account, so that I can get it filed under Gmail's Sent folder? (of course, the filing part within Gmail is a different story and is off-topic on this list). What I mean is that I would normally be composing a message with Claws Mail, and send it via the SMTP server. I only need that a BBC copy of that message is also sent (possibly in the background) to the same address that appears in the (spoofed) 'From' field of my outgoing email, without requiring me to manually type anything into the BCC field. Is this possible? Thanks a lot Alby From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 2 00:40:07 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 23:40:07 +0000 Subject: [Users] Setting automatically a BBC copy for every outgoing message In-Reply-To: <52ED7023.1020501@gmail.com> References: <52ED7023.1020501@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20140201234007.0248ad28@thewildbeast> On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 23:07:31 +0100 alb348 at gmail.com wrote: > What I mean is that I would normally be composing a message with > Claws Mail, and send it via the SMTP server. I only need that a BBC > copy of that message is also sent (possibly in the background) to > the same address that appears in the (spoofed) 'From' field of my > outgoing email, without requiring me to manually type anything into > the BCC field. Is this possible? See the Compose page of the account preferences. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From alb348 at gmail.com Sun Feb 2 02:09:44 2014 From: alb348 at gmail.com (Alby) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 02:09:44 +0100 Subject: [Users] Setting automatically a BBC copy for every outgoing message In-Reply-To: References: <52ED7023.1020501@gmail.com> Message-ID: I spoke too early. Bernd was right: using a spoofed From field causes MAJOR problems with spam filters. Although Gmail lets the spoofed emails into the Inbox folder without problems, Hotmail/Outlook puts them directly into the Spam folder. I have just verified this. Not only that, but even after moving those emails manually from the Spam folder to the Inbox, Hotmail/Oulook still keeps displaying a scary and ugly warning message at the top of the email: "Be careful! This sender failed our fraud detection checks." Obviously, this is not acceptable!! Too bad. Back to square one, looking for an alternative solution... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 2 02:27:43 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2014 01:27:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3076] New: Message size is 1 gigabyte - wrong size Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3076 Bug ID: 3076 Summary: Message size is 1 gigabyte - wrong size Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail (Windows) Version: 3.9.1 Hardware: PC OS: Windows 7 Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: default Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: alex.milos at firemail.de Created attachment 1326 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1326&action=edit look_at_red_arrows_1_GB Please see the attachment. The red arrow points to the size of the first message in my inbox. The size is 1 gigabyte! I believe this is a bug. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From alb348 at gmail.com Sun Feb 2 03:02:58 2014 From: alb348 at gmail.com (alb348 at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 03:02:58 +0100 Subject: [Users] Email organization questions Message-ID: <20140202030258.000039b3@gmail.com> Two quick questions about the way of organizing the emails: 1) Is there an Archive command that quickly removes an email from the inbox to a pre-defined folder? (I already know about the Move command, but that requires the user to manually select the destination folder -- I was looking for something quick, that requires pressing only one key, like in Thunderbird). 2) Which way of managing multiple accounts do you suggest: keeping only one inbox for all incoming emails (from all the various accounts), or having one inbox for each account? What are the pros and the cons of each method, and in which cases would you recommend one method instead of the other? Another question: I keep unchecking the Message View from the View menu, but when I click on a message to open it, the Message View automatically reappears. This is very annoying. How do I turn off the Message View permanently? I want to view each message in a new window when I click on it. Thanks in advance Alby From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 2 10:28:26 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 09:28:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] Setting automatically a BBC copy for every outgoing message In-Reply-To: References: <52ED7023.1020501@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20140202092826.1f82c92c@thewildbeast> On Sun, 2 Feb 2014 02:09:44 +0100 Alby wrote: > "Be careful! This sender failed our fraud detection checks." > > Obviously, this is not acceptable!! > Too bad. Back to square one, looking for an alternative solution... Obviously you have legitimate reasons, (there are many), for doing what you do, so their "protecting us from ourselves" approach is pointless. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 2 10:43:31 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 09:43:31 +0000 Subject: [Users] Email organization questions In-Reply-To: <20140202030258.000039b3@gmail.com> References: <20140202030258.000039b3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20140202094331.1817e8c6@thewildbeast> On Sun, 2 Feb 2014 03:02:58 +0100 wrote: > 1) Is there an Archive command that quickly removes an email from > the inbox to a pre-defined folder? (I already know about the Move > command, but that requires the user to manually select the > destination folder -- I was looking for something quick, that > requires pressing only one key, like in Thunderbird). For example, you can set up a folder processing rule, Match criteria: age, with an action of Move. Then use '/Tools/Run folder processing rules' to run it on demand (adding a hotkey for this menu item, if you like), or you can run it automatically every time you open the folder (see the folder Properties, General page). > 2) Which way of managing multiple accounts do you suggest: keeping > only one inbox for all incoming emails (from all the various > accounts), or having one inbox for each account? What are the pros > and the cons of each method, and in which cases would you recommend > one method instead of the other? Personally I have one mailbox for all my POP accounts, and the inbox has sub-folders for each account. I don't think there are any pros and cons to any method, it's just a matter of personal preference. > Another question: I keep unchecking the Message View from the View > menu, but when I click on a message to open it, the Message View > automatically reappears. This is very annoying. How do I turn off > the Message View permanently? I want to view each message in a new > window when I click on it. It works for me. What version of Claws are you using? How do you open the message? What setting do you have for the 'open message when selected' option on the Display/Summaries page of the prefs? with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 2 12:54:10 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2014 11:54:10 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3075] charset problem when using PGP/Inline encryption In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3075 --- Comment #2 from Thomas Bellmann --- Created attachment 1327 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1327&action=edit Screenshot of working umlauts (with UTF-8) at PGP/Mime encryption -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From alb348 at gmail.com Sun Feb 2 15:39:16 2014 From: alb348 at gmail.com (alb348 at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2014 15:39:16 +0100 Subject: [Users] Setting automatically a BBC copy for every outgoing message In-Reply-To: <20140202092826.1f82c92c@thewildbeast> References: <52ED7023.1020501@gmail.com> <20140202092826.1f82c92c@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <52EE5894.1070809@gmail.com> On 2014-02-02 10:28, Paul wrote: > On Sun, 2 Feb 2014 02:09:44 +0100 > Alby wrote: > >> "Be careful! This sender failed our fraud detection checks." >> >> Obviously, this is not acceptable!! >> Too bad. Back to square one, looking for an alternative solution... > > Obviously you have legitimate reasons, (there are many), for doing > what you do, so their "protecting us from ourselves" approach is > pointless. I do have legitimate reasons: simply the fact that I don't like other people being told where I am. Nothing to do with spam. The standard procedure of (nearly) all SMTP servers seriously compromises your privacy. Nobody seems to realize this! Or to care. There is a lot of talk about Google and others reading your data, extracting useful information, making statistics, selling them, etc. This is all true, probably, but it is nothing compared to the fact that when you send an email via SMTP, there is a 'tag' attached which tells the recipient "the sender is currently in this location". I see this as much more disturbing than having my whole emails read by a computer algorithm and by people who are totally unrelated to me and who are probably uninterested in me as a person, whereas the recipients of my emails may have all the reasons to be interested in me particularly. But this is a discussion that already took place on this list. For anyone interested, see: http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2012-January/001264.html and http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2012-January/001268.html BTW, I am no longer interested in the webmail-powered solution for CM. I have linked to these posts only because they contain the explaination of the privacy threat. From alb348 at gmail.com Sun Feb 2 15:55:59 2014 From: alb348 at gmail.com (alb348 at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2014 15:55:59 +0100 Subject: [Users] Archiving selected messages In-Reply-To: <20140202094331.1817e8c6@thewildbeast> References: <20140202030258.000039b3@gmail.com> <20140202094331.1817e8c6@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <52EE5C7F.5000900@gmail.com> Thanks for the reply, Paul. >> 1) Is there an Archive command that quickly removes an email from >> the inbox to a pre-defined folder? (I already know about the Move >> command, but that requires the user to manually select the >> destination folder -- I was looking for something quick, that >> requires pressing only one key, like in Thunderbird). > > For example, you can set up a folder processing rule, Match criteria: > age, with an action of Move. Then use '/Tools/Run folder processing > rules' to run it on demand (adding a hotkey for this menu item, if > you like), or you can run it automatically every time you open the > folder (see the folder Properties, General page). What I had in mind, rather than defining any matching criteria, was simply to do the archiving manually, by selecting (highlighted) messages and pressing a key (for example the key 'A') to move them to a predefined folder. Is this possible? I have already looked into the filter creation rules, but I was not able to find any matching criterion mentioning the 'currently selected' messages, which is what I need. Could someone kindly help me with that? Thanks From berndth at gmx.de Sun Feb 2 16:01:41 2014 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 16:01:41 +0100 Subject: [Users] Archiving selected messages In-Reply-To: <52EE5C7F.5000900@gmail.com> References: <20140202030258.000039b3@gmail.com> <20140202094331.1817e8c6@thewildbeast> <52EE5C7F.5000900@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20140202160141.0ff420c7@wodan> On So, 02.02.2014 15:55, alb348 at gmail.com wrote: >What I had in mind, rather than defining any matching criteria, was simply >to do the archiving manually, by selecting (highlighted) messages and >pressing >a key (for example the key 'A') to move them to a predefined folder. Is >this possible? Create an "Action" with a suitable "Filter action", and assign a shortcut to that action. Holger From alb348 at gmail.com Sun Feb 2 16:04:22 2014 From: alb348 at gmail.com (alb348 at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2014 16:04:22 +0100 Subject: [Users] Pesky Message View that keeps coming back In-Reply-To: <20140202094331.1817e8c6@thewildbeast> References: <20140202030258.000039b3@gmail.com> <20140202094331.1817e8c6@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <52EE5E76.9010602@gmail.com> Paul wrote: >> Another question: I keep unchecking the Message View from the View >> menu, but when I click on a message to open it, the Message View >> automatically reappears. This is very annoying. How do I turn off >> the Message View permanently? I want to view each message in a new >> window when I click on it. > > It works for me. What version of Claws are you using? How do you open > the message? What setting do you have for the 'open message when > selected' option on the Display/Summaries page of the prefs? I am using CM version 3.9.3, under Windows 8.1. I open the message simply by pressing the Return key, and as I result I always get the Message View at the bottom, despite the fact that I had just disabled it in the View > Show or Hide menu. With regard with the 'open message when selected' option in the Display/Summaries, it was set on Never. I have also tried changing it but it makes no difference. From cdysthe at gmail.com Sun Feb 2 16:17:28 2014 From: cdysthe at gmail.com (Christian Dysthe) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2014 09:17:28 -0600 Subject: [Users] How to delete an unused 'Sent' folder in an IMAP (Gmail) account. Message-ID: <52EE6188.8020201@gmail.com> Hi, I am new to Claws and working on setting it up for all my accounts among them Gmail. I followed the instructions here: http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Using_Claws_with_Gmail and everything works except for that I can't get rid of the now unused 'Sent' folder which persists even after I have specified another folder for sent mail. In the FAQ it says: "You can now delete the "Sent" folder as it no longer matters" but I can't for the life of me figure out how to delete that folder since the delete option is greyed out. I have done some Google on the matter but not found a workable solution so any help here would be greatly appreciated. -- //Christian Dropbox - Your stuff anywhere! - https://db.tt/U8MqkVR From xeonmailinglist at gmail.com Sun Feb 2 17:26:44 2014 From: xeonmailinglist at gmail.com (xeon) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 16:26:44 +0000 Subject: [Users] I can't see all my email in claws Message-ID: <20140202162644.42c5a332@gmail.com> I set several gmail imap accounts in the claws, but I do see all the messages. There are messages that are in my gmail account, but they aren't in claws. What is happening? -- Best regards, From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 2 18:18:24 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 17:18:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] I can't see all my email in claws In-Reply-To: <20140202162644.42c5a332@gmail.com> References: <20140202162644.42c5a332@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20140202171824.5ac206a4@thewildbeast> On Sun, 2 Feb 2014 16:26:44 +0000 xeon wrote: > I set several gmail imap accounts in the claws, but I do see all the > messages. There are messages that are in my gmail account, but they > aren't in claws. What is happening? Maybe you can explain a little better... Does this affect certain folders or ...? with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net Sun Feb 2 18:19:08 2014 From: bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net (Bernd Eckenfels) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 18:19:08 +0100 Subject: [Users] Setting automatically a BBC copy for every outgoing message In-Reply-To: <52EE5894.1070809@gmail.com> References: <52ED7023.1020501@gmail.com> <20140202092826.1f82c92c@thewildbeast> <52EE5894.1070809@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20140202181908.00007ab2.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> Hello, with other email programs I used to use localhost with my ssh client as a SOCKS Proxy (dynamic port forwarding). So my surfing and mail sending always originates from the same (personal) hosted server. This is especially useful for surfing from untrusted WLANs or restricted guest nets. This does not (easily) work with Claws it seems (at least I haven't found a configuration option for proxies). So the simplest alternative is to use a VPN with your own server. Hast the same advantage in terms of hiding your IP and shielding your Internet surfing to the local (W)LAN. You can then use the Google mail servers in that case, as they only see the IP of your proxy server. Gruss Bernd PS: there is even a number of VPN providers where you don't need to have your own server and which allow you to select any location of the exit node. And it is much faster and more reliable than using Tor or similar. Am Sun, 02 Feb 2014 15:39:16 +0100 schrieb alb348 at gmail.com: > On 2014-02-02 10:28, Paul wrote: > > On Sun, 2 Feb 2014 02:09:44 +0100 > > Alby wrote: > > > >> "Be careful! This sender failed our fraud detection checks." > >> > >> Obviously, this is not acceptable!! > >> Too bad. Back to square one, looking for an alternative solution... > > > > Obviously you have legitimate reasons, (there are many), for doing > > what you do, so their "protecting us from ourselves" approach is > > pointless. > > I do have legitimate reasons: simply the fact that I don't like other > people being told where I am. Nothing to do with spam. The standard > procedure of (nearly) all SMTP servers seriously compromises your > privacy. Nobody seems to realize this! Or to care. There is a lot of > talk about Google and others reading your data, extracting useful > information, making statistics, selling them, etc. This is all true, > probably, but it is nothing compared to the fact that when you send > an email via SMTP, there is a 'tag' attached which tells the > recipient "the sender is currently in this location". I see this as > much more disturbing than having my whole emails read by a computer > algorithm and by people who are totally unrelated to me and who are > probably uninterested in me as a person, whereas the recipients of my > emails may have all the reasons to be interested in me particularly. > But this is a discussion that already took place on this list. For > anyone interested, see: > http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2012-January/001264.html > and > http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2012-January/001268.html > BTW, I am no longer interested in the webmail-powered solution for > CM. I have linked to these posts only because they contain the > explaination of the privacy threat. From rwmaillists at googlemail.com Sun Feb 2 21:39:19 2014 From: rwmaillists at googlemail.com (RW) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 20:39:19 +0000 Subject: Re References: <52ED7023.1020501@gmail.com> <20140202092826.1f82c92c@thewildbeast> <52EE5894.1070809@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20140202203919.2b1996f3@gumby.homeunix.com> From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 2 21:51:53 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 20:51:53 +0000 Subject: [Users] How to delete an unused 'Sent' folder in an IMAP (Gmail) account. In-Reply-To: <52EE6188.8020201@gmail.com> References: <52EE6188.8020201@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20140202205153.417b49a9@thewildbeast> On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 09:17:28 -0600 Christian Dysthe wrote: > In the FAQ it says: "You can now delete the "Sent" folder as it no > longer matters" but I can't for the life of me figure out how to > delete that folder since the delete option is greyed out. I imagine that you didn't do what it says on the line directly above that one: "Right click "Sent Mail" and click Properties. Across from "Folder Type" select "Outbox" and click Apply, OK." Special folders cannot be deleted, so the folder you are trying to delete is one of those special folders, (e.g. Outbox, Draft, Inbox, etc). with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 2 21:55:34 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 20:55:34 +0000 Subject: [Users] Setting automatically a BBC copy for every outgoing message In-Reply-To: <20140202203919.2b1996f3@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <52ED7023.1020501@gmail.com> <20140202092826.1f82c92c@thewildbeast> <52EE5894.1070809@gmail.com> <20140202203919.2b1996f3@gumby.homeunix.com> Message-ID: <20140202205534.76dc18d7@thewildbeast> On Sun, 2 Feb 2014 20:39:19 +0000 RW wrote: > It's widely understood, and most people don't care any more than > they care about the postmark on a letter which locates you with > similar (usually better) precision. No, a postmark on a letter would match this scenario if the postmark had to have the same town as the sender's address on the envelope. It doesn't. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From alb348 at gmail.com Sun Feb 2 22:17:23 2014 From: alb348 at gmail.com (alb348 at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2014 22:17:23 +0100 Subject: [Users] Setting automatically a BBC copy for every outgoing message In-Reply-To: <20140202203919.2b1996f3@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <52ED7023.1020501@gmail.com> <20140202092826.1f82c92c@thewildbeast> <52EE5894.1070809@gmail.com> <20140202203919.2b1996f3@gumby.homeunix.com> Message-ID: <52EEB5E3.3010701@gmail.com> > Do you have a particular real-world scenario in mind? I'm guessing that > sending whistle-blowing emails or death threats to mafia dons isn't > something you do every minute. In the one of the two old messages that I linked to in my previous email I mentioned the real-word case of your employer spying on you. Or it can be your spouse, or anyone, for that matter. It happens more frequently than we may think. From cdysthe at gmail.com Sun Feb 2 22:54:41 2014 From: cdysthe at gmail.com (Christian Dysthe) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2014 15:54:41 -0600 Subject: [Users] How to delete an unused 'Sent' folder in an IMAP (Gmail) account. In-Reply-To: <20140202205153.417b49a9@thewildbeast> References: <52EE6188.8020201@gmail.com> <20140202205153.417b49a9@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <52EEBEA1.80702@gmail.com> On 02/02/2014 02:51 PM, Paul wrote: > On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 09:17:28 -0600 > Christian Dysthe wrote: > >> In the FAQ it says: "You can now delete the "Sent" folder as it no >> longer matters" but I can't for the life of me figure out how to >> delete that folder since the delete option is greyed out. > > I imagine that you didn't do what it says on the line directly above > that one: "Right click "Sent Mail" and click Properties. Across from > "Folder Type" select "Outbox" and click Apply, OK." I did do that but I still wasn't able to delete it. I got a pop-up saying the folder couldn't be deleted. So I am wondering if there's been some changes to Claws since that hotwo was written preventing 'Sent' and other special folders from deletion even after they have been remapped? > > Special folders cannot be deleted, so the folder you are trying to > delete is one of those special folders, (e.g. Outbox, Draft, Inbox, > etc). Well, I got it deleted anyhow. I edited ~/.claws-mail/folderlist.xml and removed the line for 'Sent'. That took care of it. The account still works without problems and the 'Sent' folder is gone while the "Sent Mail' now appears and works like 'Sent' did. Thanks! > > with regards > > Paul > > -- //Christian Dropbox - Your stuff anywhere! - https://db.tt/U8MqkVR From bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net Sun Feb 2 23:09:49 2014 From: bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net (Bernd Eckenfels) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 23:09:49 +0100 Subject: [Users] How to delete an unused 'Sent' folder in an IMAP (Gmail) account. In-Reply-To: <52EEBEA1.80702@gmail.com> References: <52EE6188.8020201@gmail.com> <20140202205153.417b49a9@thewildbeast> <52EEBEA1.80702@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20140202230949.000036b0.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> Am Sun, 02 Feb 2014 15:54:41 -0600 schrieb Christian Dysthe : > I did do that but I still wasn't able to delete it. I got a pop-up > saying the folder couldn't be deleted. So I am wondering if there's > been some changes to Claws since that hotwo was written preventing > 'Sent' and other special folders from deletion even after they have > been remapped? I did just that a few days ago (3.9.3). If the folder has no special symbol it can be deleted. Maybe your problem is the [Google Mail] start folder. I would start without specifying that root folder and I would also run a "reread folder structure". Bernd From rwmaillists at googlemail.com Sun Feb 2 23:36:57 2014 From: rwmaillists at googlemail.com (RW) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 22:36:57 +0000 Subject: [Users] Setting automatically a BBC copy for every outgoing message References: <52ED7023.1020501@gmail.com> <20140202092826.1f82c92c@thewildbeast> <52EE5894.1070809@gmail.com> <20140202203919.2b1996f3@gumby.homeunix.com> <52EEB5E3.3010701@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20140202223657.712773bf@gumby.homeunix.com> On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 22:17:23 +0100 alb348 at gmail.com wrote: > > Do you have a particular real-world scenario in mind? I'm guessing > > that sending whistle-blowing emails or death threats to mafia dons > > isn't something you do every minute. > > In the one of the two old messages that I linked to in my previous > email I mentioned the real-word case of your employer spying on you. > Or it can be your spouse, or anyone, for that matter. It happens more > frequently than we may think. Do you really think that your employer is going to fire you because you sent an email from a town where a political meeting took place. This is what I'm getting at, when you press someone about why they want to hide their IP address, they always come up with ridiculous scenarios that don't have anything at all to do with their own lives. On Sun, 2 Feb 2014 20:55:34 +0000 Paul wrote: > On Sun, 2 Feb 2014 20:39:19 +0000 > RW wrote: > > > It's widely understood, and most people don't care any more than > > they care about the postmark on a letter which locates you with > > similar (usually better) precision. > > No, a postmark on a letter would match this scenario if the postmark > had to have the same town as the sender's address on the envelope. > It doesn't. You can go to the next town and post a letter, you can go to the next town and use a cafe or wireless hotspot, no difference there. From cdysthe at gmail.com Mon Feb 3 00:20:46 2014 From: cdysthe at gmail.com (Christian Dysthe) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2014 17:20:46 -0600 Subject: [Users] How to delete an unused 'Sent' folder in an IMAP (Gmail) account. In-Reply-To: <20140202230949.000036b0.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> References: <52EE6188.8020201@gmail.com> <20140202205153.417b49a9@thewildbeast> <52EEBEA1.80702@gmail.com> <20140202230949.000036b0.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> Message-ID: <52EED2CE.50907@gmail.com> On 02/02/2014 04:09 PM, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > Am Sun, 02 Feb 2014 15:54:41 -0600 > schrieb Christian Dysthe : >> I did do that but I still wasn't able to delete it. I got a pop-up >> saying the folder couldn't be deleted. So I am wondering if there's >> been some changes to Claws since that hotwo was written preventing >> 'Sent' and other special folders from deletion even after they have >> been remapped? > > I did just that a few days ago (3.9.3). If the folder has no special > symbol it can be deleted. Maybe your problem is the [Google Mail] start > folder. I would start without specifying that root folder and I would > also run a "reread folder structure". I tried twice and followed the howto very carefully. I even recreated the account and it did include a reread folder structure. It works well now though, thanks! > > Bernd > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > -- //Christian Dropbox - Your stuff anywhere! - https://db.tt/U8MqkVR From alb348 at gmail.com Mon Feb 3 01:42:08 2014 From: alb348 at gmail.com (alb348 at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 01:42:08 +0100 Subject: [Users] Archiving selected messages In-Reply-To: <20140202160141.0ff420c7@wodan> References: <20140202030258.000039b3@gmail.com> <20140202094331.1817e8c6@thewildbeast> <52EE5C7F.5000900@gmail.com> <20140202160141.0ff420c7@wodan> Message-ID: <52EEE5E0.5040703@gmail.com> On 2014-02-02 16:01, Holger Berndt wrote: > On So, 02.02.2014 15:55, alb348 at gmail.com wrote: > >> What I had in mind, rather than defining any matching criteria, was simply >> to do the archiving manually, by selecting (highlighted) messages and >> pressing >> a key (for example the key 'A') to move them to a predefined folder. Is >> this possible? > > Create an "Action" with a suitable "Filter action", and assign a > shortcut to that action. It works! Thanks a lot, Holger. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 3 02:51:29 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 01:51:29 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2782] [security] vCalendar: status tray should display "Fetching: " vs "Fetching: " In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2782 --- Comment #5 from Alexa --- *** Bug 260998 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** Seen live from the domain http://volichat.com/adult-chat-rooms Marked for reference. Resolved as fixed @bugzilla. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From cdysthe at gmail.com Mon Feb 3 06:06:13 2014 From: cdysthe at gmail.com (Christian Dysthe) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2014 23:06:13 -0600 Subject: [Users] Not able to add filters. Message-ID: <52EF23C5.4000305@gmail.com> Hi, I am running Claws on Ubuntu 13.10 installed from the repos. It's set up with three IMAP accounts and one NNTP account. When I try to create a filter (for the NNTP account) at some point in the process the application freezes and I am not able to complete and save the filter. I have to kill Claws with xkill. I have tried numerous times but I have the same freeze, most often when I try to add the action, all the time. Any ideas what could be wrong? -- //Christian Dropbox - Your stuff anywhere! - https://db.tt/U8MqkVR From kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com Mon Feb 3 06:01:09 2014 From: kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com (Abhay S. Kushwaha) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 10:31:09 +0530 Subject: [Users] Setting automatically a BBC copy for every outgoing message In-Reply-To: <20140202223657.712773bf@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <52ED7023.1020501@gmail.com> <20140202092826.1f82c92c@thewildbeast> <52EE5894.1070809@gmail.com> <20140202203919.2b1996f3@gumby.homeunix.com> <52EEB5E3.3010701@gmail.com> <20140202223657.712773bf@gumby.homeunix.com> Message-ID: <20140203103109.00007f37@netsolutionsindia.com> On Sun, 2 Feb 2014 22:36:57 +0000, RW wrote: > Do you really think that your employer is going to fire you because > you sent an email from a town where a political meeting took place. An employer could fire him if he said he was vacationing in Hawaii with his family but was emailing from the New York, the HQ of competition. The wife could kill him if he was supposed to be with a client in New York but the email came from Hawaii, where he last had his escapade that his wife barely forgave him for. Just sayin' y'know. [a] From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 3 09:27:21 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 08:27:21 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3074] Option to disable CONDSTORE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3074 Ricardo Mones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones --- Claws Mail doesn't make use of that IMAP extension. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 3 10:07:17 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 09:07:17 +0000 Subject: [Users] Setting automatically a BBC copy for every outgoing message In-Reply-To: <20140202223657.712773bf@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <52ED7023.1020501@gmail.com> <20140202092826.1f82c92c@thewildbeast> <52EE5894.1070809@gmail.com> <20140202203919.2b1996f3@gumby.homeunix.com> <52EEB5E3.3010701@gmail.com> <20140202223657.712773bf@gumby.homeunix.com> Message-ID: <20140203090717.06d5d0e3@thewildbeast> On Sun, 2 Feb 2014 22:36:57 +0000 RW wrote: > You can go to the next town and post a letter, you can go to the > next town and use a cafe or wireless hotspot, no difference there. But we're talking about sending an email with one's own email address in the From header and using any SMTP server to do so, therefore we've strayed off the path quite a long way now in trying to demonstrate through real world equivalents. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 3 10:12:07 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 09:12:07 +0000 Subject: [Users] Not able to add filters. In-Reply-To: <52EF23C5.4000305@gmail.com> References: <52EF23C5.4000305@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20140203091207.1d302cbe@thewildbeast> On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 23:06:13 -0600 Christian Dysthe wrote: > I am running Claws on Ubuntu 13.10 installed from the repos. It's > set up with three IMAP accounts and one NNTP account. When I try to > create a filter (for the NNTP account) at some point in the process > the application freezes and I am not able to complete and save the > filter. I have to kill Claws with xkill. I have tried numerous > times but I have the same freeze, most often when I try to add the > action, all the time. Any ideas what could be wrong? Probably you have the packages 'overlay-scrollbar' and 'overlay-scrollbar-gtk2' installed. These packages are completely bugged-out and, although it was reported to them many months ago, the developers of overlay-scrollbar don't appear to want to do anything about it. Your solution is to remove these packages from your system. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From gheskett at wdtv.com Mon Feb 3 12:19:12 2014 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 06:19:12 -0500 Subject: [Users] Setting automatically a BBC copy for every outgoing message In-Reply-To: <20140203103109.00007f37@netsolutionsindia.com> References: <52ED7023.1020501@gmail.com> <20140202223657.712773bf@gumby.homeunix.com> <20140203103109.00007f37@netsolutionsindia.com> Message-ID: <201402030619.12924.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Monday 03 February 2014 06:18:30 Abhay S. Kushwaha did opine: > On Sun, 2 Feb 2014 22:36:57 +0000, RW wrote: > > Do you really think that your employer is going to fire you because > > you sent an email from a town where a political meeting took place. > > An employer could fire him if he said he was vacationing in Hawaii > with his family but was emailing from the New York, the HQ of > competition. > > The wife could kill him if he was supposed to be with a client in New > York but the email came from Hawaii, where he last had his escapade > that his wife barely forgave him for. > > Just sayin' y'know. > > [a] snrk. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 3 14:18:21 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:18:21 +0000 Subject: [Users] X-Newsreader header In-Reply-To: <20140126232124.000078f3.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> References: <20140126232124.000078f3.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> Message-ID: <20140203131821.655eae18@thewildbeast> On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 23:21:24 +0100 Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > in the extended configuration I can turn off "X-Mailer:" header, but > the same checkbox exists in a NNTP Style account, but it wont turn > off X-Newsreader: header. An option for NNTP accounts to turn off the X-Newsreader header has now been added and will appear in the next release. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 3 15:04:05 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 14:04:05 -0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3053] Can't add "replace signature" to the toolbar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3053 --- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2014-02-03 15:04:03.094018051 +0100 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=c08d45018f5d71e7719149b15bc203d83ff3ebac Merge: 5b99b3e 0b253d9 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Mon Feb 3 15:04:02 2014 +0100 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b253d952793e5297ec28df3b06bdffd9ea67eda Author: Paul Date: Mon Feb 3 14:03:17 2014 +0000 implement RFE bug 3053, 'Can't add "replace signature" to the toolbar' -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From alb348 at gmail.com Mon Feb 3 16:15:07 2014 From: alb348 at gmail.com (alb348 at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 16:15:07 +0100 Subject: [Users] Privacy issues Message-ID: <20140203161507.00003ae0@gmail.com> On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 10:31:09 +0530 "Abhay S. Kushwaha" wrote: > > Do you really think that your employer is going to fire you because > > you sent an email from a town where a political meeting took place. > > An employer could fire him if he said he was vacationing in Hawaii > with his family but was emailing from the New York, the HQ of > competition. > > The wife could kill him if he was supposed to be with a client in New > York but the email came from Hawaii, where he last had his escapade > that his wife barely forgave him for. Precisely. Moreover New York could easily be explained away with anything, because it is such a big place for which you could find hundreds of excuses. But if it is a smaller place, then you may be in serious trouble. All these examples are very much real-life cases. Regarding the post office analogy: of course you could go to the next town, but that entails a considerable inconvenience. You could even request a friend in a far away place to remail the letter for you. In the computer world you could use Tor, of course. But all these extra measures entail a price, in terms of inconvenience and efficiency. The issue is: how to send an email with your email client, without much fuss, in a way that respects your privacy? VPNs may be a viable option, as some of you suggested. But I was hoping for some SMTP solution, on the assumption that it would be simpler, but it seems it has its drawbacks (risking that your email gets classified as spam). From rwmaillists at googlemail.com Tue Feb 4 01:14:26 2014 From: rwmaillists at googlemail.com (RW) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 00:14:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] Privacy issues References: <20140203161507.00003ae0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20140204001426.3447989b@gumby.homeunix.com> On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 16:15:07 +0100 alb348 at gmail.com wrote: > On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 10:31:09 +0530 > "Abhay S. Kushwaha" wrote: > > > > Do you really think that your employer is going to fire you > > > because you sent an email from a town where a political meeting > > > took place. > > > > An employer could fire him if he said he was vacationing in Hawaii > > with his family but was emailing from the New York, the HQ of > > competition. > > > > The wife could kill him if he was supposed to be with a client in > > New York but the email came from Hawaii, where he last had his > > escapade that his wife barely forgave him for. > > Precisely. Moreover New York could easily be explained away with > anything, because it is such a big place for which you could find > hundreds of excuses. But if it is a smaller place, then you may be in > serious trouble. All these examples are very much real-life cases. Really? You people lead exciting lives. I practically never behave in an underhand way. To do this is such a regular basis that it changes the way you use email must be really tiring > Regarding the post office analogy: of course you could go to the next > town, but that entails a considerable inconvenience. I wasn't suggesting you go to another town, I was just pointing out that its no worse than a postmark > You could even > request a friend in a far away place to remail the letter for you. In > the computer world you could use Tor, of course. > But all these extra measures entail a price, in terms of > inconvenience and efficiency. > The issue is: how to send an email with your email client, without > much fuss, in a way that respects your privacy? When you find yourself in one of these outlandish situations you can just use webmail, or one one of those mail servers that neglect to add a submission header. I think it's interesting that you claim to regard this as really important, but you wont put yourself to the most minor inconvenience - even on an occasional ad hoc basis. From bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net Tue Feb 4 02:28:18 2014 From: bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net (Bernd Eckenfels) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 02:28:18 +0100 Subject: [Users] "Go Offline" button on connection error popup Message-ID: <20140204022818.00007d80.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> I am using Claws with some IMAP4 accounts. They are set to automatically retrieve mails every few minutes. This is a notebook, and when I roam or enable a VPN it happens that the network connection to my IMAP servers is not available. There is a setting for error popups. If I disable this (which would be my preference) then Claws hangs in all kind of situations. Instead of going into "error" state (using offline or error messages depending on waht is available) it seems to try synchronously to connect. Would be better if if tries in the background (like Outlook). So currently I have the error popup turned on (which is a bit annoying if it pops up a few minutes after you dialed into some VPN or moved out of WLAN, but OK. However there is no easy way to dismiss the error and make Claws stop retrying. It would help if there is an "Go Offline" button in addition to "Close" and "show log". That button should set Claws into OFfline mode (stopping the pollings from retrying). This switching into Offline mode should of course be done without syncing (unlike the normal offline button). Would that be a good improvement? Bernd From cwallace at lodgingcompany.com Tue Feb 4 03:14:32 2014 From: cwallace at lodgingcompany.com (Chad Wallace) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 18:14:32 -0800 Subject: [Users] Pesky Message View that keeps coming back In-Reply-To: <52EE5E76.9010602@gmail.com> References: <20140202030258.000039b3@gmail.com> <20140202094331.1817e8c6@thewildbeast> <52EE5E76.9010602@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20140203181432.2245bb3f@ws78.int.tlc> On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 16:04:22 +0100 alb348 at gmail.com wrote: > I open the message simply by pressing the Return key, and as I result > I always get the Message View at the bottom, despite the fact that I > had just disabled it in the View > Show or Hide menu. > With regard with the 'open message when selected' option in the > Display/Summaries, it was set on Never. I have also tried changing it > but it makes no difference. I remember having the same problem when I switched from Thunderbird many moons ago. I eventually just gave up--if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Now I prefer having it all in one window. However, I do remember being annoyed for a while about having to change. I think the root of the problem is the action defined for the Enter key vs. double-clicking the mouse. Usually, hitting Enter does the same thing as double-clicking, but in Claws hitting Enter opens the message in the message view (re-opening it if it was hidden) and double-clicking with the mouse opens it in a new window. It would make more sense to me if Enter and double-click did the same thing. Specifically, both would show the message, either a) in the message view if it's visible or b) in a new window if the message view is hidden. Of course, I'm sure there are others with different opinions on the matter... -- C. Chad Wallace, B.Sc. The Lodging Company http://www.lodgingcompany.com/ OpenPGP Public Key ID: 0x262208A0 From bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net Tue Feb 4 04:27:16 2014 From: bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net (Bernd Eckenfels) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 04:27:16 +0100 Subject: [Users] X-Newsreader header In-Reply-To: <20140203131821.655eae18@thewildbeast> References: <20140126232124.000078f3.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> <20140203131821.655eae18@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140204042716.00007a39.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> Am Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:18:21 +0000 schrieb Paul : > An option for NNTP accounts to turn off the X-Newsreader header has > now been added and will appear in the next release. Thanks Paul :) Gruss Bernd From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 4 09:42:36 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 08:42:36 +0000 Subject: [Users] "Go Offline" button on connection error popup In-Reply-To: <20140204022818.00007d80.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> References: <20140204022818.00007d80.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> Message-ID: <20140204084236.7483f6f2@thewildbeast> On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 02:28:18 +0100 Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > It would help if there is an "Go Offline" > button in addition to "Close" and "show log". There's an offline/online button in the lower right corner, next to the account selector. Alternately, you can build with Network Manager support and allow that to handle online/offline status for you. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net Tue Feb 4 09:50:27 2014 From: bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net (Bernd Eckenfels) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 09:50:27 +0100 Subject: [Users] "Go Offline" button on connection error popup In-Reply-To: <20140204084236.7483f6f2@thewildbeast> References: <20140204022818.00007d80.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> <20140204084236.7483f6f2@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <5260E8B3-0A72-4009-AF27-672F0E099801@eckenfels.net> Yes there is a disconnect Icon or menu, but first i have to dismiss then the modal error dialog, Click the offline Icon and then abort The sync. Thats 3 Klicks instead of none (no popup) or one (go offline Button). > Am 04.02.2014 um 09:42 schrieb Paul : > > On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 02:28:18 +0100 > Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > >> It would help if there is an "Go Offline" >> button in addition to "Close" and "show log". > > There's an offline/online button in the lower right corner, next to > the account selector. > > Alternately, you can build with Network Manager support and allow > that to handle online/offline status for you. > > with regards > > Paul > > > -- > Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 4 09:59:29 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 08:59:29 +0000 Subject: [Users] "Go Offline" button on connection error popup In-Reply-To: <5260E8B3-0A72-4009-AF27-672F0E099801@eckenfels.net> References: <20140204022818.00007d80.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> <20140204084236.7483f6f2@thewildbeast> <5260E8B3-0A72-4009-AF27-672F0E099801@eckenfels.net> Message-ID: <20140204085929.537378a7@thewildbeast> On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 09:50:27 +0100 Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > Yes there is a disconnect Icon or menu, but first i have to dismiss > then the modal error dialog, Click the offline Icon and then abort > The sync. Thats 3 Klicks instead of none (no popup) or one (go > offline Button). Then my 2nd point: Network Manager support built in. BTW, please don't send your reply to me and the list. Just the list is fine. You must be subscribed to post, therefore I will see your reply when you send it to just the list. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From boudiccas at talktalk.net Tue Feb 4 12:36:30 2014 From: boudiccas at talktalk.net (Sharon Kimble) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 11:36:30 +0000 Subject: [Users] "Go Offline" button on connection error popup In-Reply-To: <20140204022818.00007d80.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> References: <20140204022818.00007d80.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> Message-ID: <20140204113630.4ed9432f@london> On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 02:28:18 +0100 Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > I am using Claws with some IMAP4 accounts. They are set to > automatically retrieve mails every few minutes. This is a notebook, > and when I roam or enable a VPN it happens that the network > connection to my IMAP servers is not available. > > There is a setting for error popups. If I disable this (which would be > my preference) then Claws hangs in all kind of situations. Instead of > going into "error" state (using offline or error messages depending on > waht is available) it seems to try synchronously to connect. Would be > better if if tries in the background (like Outlook). > > So currently I have the error popup turned on (which is a bit annoying > if it pops up a few minutes after you dialed into some VPN or moved > out of WLAN, but OK. However there is no easy way to dismiss the > error and make Claws stop retrying. It would help if there is an "Go > Offline" button in addition to "Close" and "show log". That button > should set Claws into OFfline mode (stopping the pollings from > retrying). This switching into Offline mode should of course be done > without syncing (unlike the normal offline button). Would that be a > good improvement? > Atm there is a little joined-up pipework icon on the bottom right of the main display, if you click on that it separates putting you into offline mode. Is that what you're asking for? Thanks Sharon. -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk efever = http://www.efever.blogspot.com/ efever = http://sharon04.livejournal.com/ my git repo = https://bitbucket.org/boudiccas/dots Debian testing, Fluxbox 1.3.5, emacs 24.3.50.1 Registered Linux user 561944 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net Tue Feb 4 19:15:22 2014 From: bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net (Bernd Eckenfels) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 19:15:22 +0100 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: <20140204113630.4ed9432f@london> References: <20140204022818.00007d80.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> <20140204113630.4ed9432f@london> Message-ID: <20140204191522.0000053c.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> From alb348 at gmail.com Tue Feb 4 21:14:23 2014 From: alb348 at gmail.com (alb348 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 21:14:23 +0100 Subject: [Users] Pesky Message View that keeps coming back In-Reply-To: <20140203181432.2245bb3f@ws78.int.tlc> References: <20140202030258.000039b3@gmail.com> <20140202094331.1817e8c6@thewildbeast> <52EE5E76.9010602@gmail.com> <20140203181432.2245bb3f@ws78.int.tlc> Message-ID: <52F14A1F.9020501@gmail.com> On 2014-02-04 03:14, Chad Wallace wrote: > On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 16:04:22 +0100 > alb348 at gmail.com wrote: > >> I open the message simply by pressing the Return key, and as I result >> I always get the Message View at the bottom, despite the fact that I >> had just disabled it in the View > Show or Hide menu. >> With regard with the 'open message when selected' option in the >> Display/Summaries, it was set on Never. I have also tried changing it >> but it makes no difference. > > I remember having the same problem when I switched from Thunderbird > many moons ago. I eventually just gave up--if you can't beat 'em, join > 'em. Now I prefer having it all in one window. However, I do remember > being annoyed for a while about having to change. > > I think the root of the problem is the action defined for the Enter > key vs. double-clicking the mouse. Usually, hitting Enter does the same > thing as double-clicking, but in Claws hitting Enter opens the message > in the message view (re-opening it if it was hidden) and > double-clicking with the mouse opens it in a new window. > > It would make more sense to me if Enter and double-click did the same > thing. Specifically, both would show the message, either a) in the > message view if it's visible or b) in a new window if the message view > is hidden. > > Of course, I'm sure there are others with different opinions on the > matter... Is it a bug or a feature? It looks like a bug to me... After all, if you manually set the Message View as OFF, it should remain off. I would really appreciate if some of the developers could look into it. Do I have to report it on the bug tracking system? From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 4 21:15:42 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 20:15:42 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3077] New: connection failed popup should allow to go offline Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3077 Bug ID: 3077 Summary: connection failed popup should allow to go offline Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.9.3 Hardware: PC OS: Windows 7 Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: UI Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: ecki at zusammenkunft.net When using the connection failed popup (because Bug#2038 for example) there are situation when this popup shows up at inconvinient times (if you poll in the background, use connectivity and use another application at that time). However the showing up is not the worst part, the worst part is, that it only has a "close" button. If you click it it is very likely it will reappear immediatelly (depending on what activity was failed/queued). If you actually manage to close all dialogs you then have to go to the claws window and click on the disconnect icon. You then have to click on "abort synchronize" (because you know it would fail anyway). My suggestion is to add a "Go Offline" button on the popup, which will immediatelly stop all retries until you manually go online again. This safed quite a few clicks and actually adds value to that popup. NB: this is only a workaround for propert connection problem handling (nonblocking in the background) but it is I guess an easy and helpfull workaround. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net Tue Feb 4 21:52:42 2014 From: bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net (Bernd Eckenfels) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 21:52:42 +0100 Subject: [Users] Pesky Message View that keeps coming back In-Reply-To: <52F14A1F.9020501@gmail.com> References: <20140202030258.000039b3@gmail.com> <20140202094331.1817e8c6@thewildbeast> <52EE5E76.9010602@gmail.com> <20140203181432.2245bb3f@ws78.int.tlc> <52F14A1F.9020501@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20140204215242.00003f58.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> Am Tue, 04 Feb 2014 21:14:23 +0100 schrieb alb348 at gmail.com: > Is it a bug or a feature? It looks like a bug to me... After all, if > you manually > set the Message View as OFF, it should remain off. It looks like a bug to me, that you cant redefine the "enter" key. If you close message view and use "only show if message view is available" there is a context action "View -> view in new window". If you use this (or the default shortcut Strg+Alt+N everything works. So it would be locical that you can press "enter" to rededine the menu point. But this does not work for me. So eighter redefining enter key or obeying the "use view if open setting" should be introduced (just like doubleclick). The "next unread message" (shift+n) has btw the same problem, it should not open the view (it is debatable if it should open a new window). Gruss Bernd From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 4 22:04:22 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 21:04:22 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3078] New: claws-mail IMAP should understand different password rejection messages Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3078 Bug ID: 3078 Summary: claws-mail IMAP should understand different password rejection messages Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: other Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Folders/IMAP Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: teknocratdefunct at riseup.net [16:02:32] IMAP4< Too many simultaneous connections. (Failure) *** IMAP4< Alert: Too many simultaneous connections. (Failure) ** IMAP error on imap.googlemail.com: LOGIN error [16:02:32] IMAP4< Error logging in to imap.googlemail.com This does not mean enter a new password, no password prompt should be displayed for the user -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 4 22:33:30 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 21:33:30 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3079] New: claws-mail-3.9.0 doesn't preserve Keyboard Shortcut customizations Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3079 Bug ID: 3079 Summary: claws-mail-3.9.0 doesn't preserve Keyboard Shortcut customizations Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: other Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: teknocratdefunct at riseup.net If i customize keyboard shortcuts via GUI or via direct edits to menurc both settings are not preserved upon reboot of claws-mail Gets overwritten with default setup Also on a side note: Return Should not be hard coded to message pane hide / show. there is currently no way in GUI to alter this shortcut without direct editing menurc -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 4 22:36:20 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 21:36:20 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3080] Message Moved to Trash Message Window Text - please remove In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3080 Harvey changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Version|other |3.9.0 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 4 22:45:25 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 21:45:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3079] claws-mail-3.9.0 doesn't preserve Keyboard Shortcut customizations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3079 Harvey changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Version|other |3.9.0 Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Harvey --- Sorry my mistake didn't see the semicolon thing... 2nd Part still stands we-writing bug report for it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 4 23:17:00 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 22:17:00 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3080] Message Moved to Trash Message Window Text - please remove In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3080 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|normal |enhancement --- Comment #1 from Paul --- That's an opinion, therefore a feature request not a bug. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 5 07:48:06 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 06:48:06 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3081] New: gtkhtml2_viewer locks in css_value_list_append Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3081 Bug ID: 3081 Summary: gtkhtml2_viewer locks in css_value_list_append Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.8.1 Hardware: PC OS: SunOS Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/Gtkhtml2 Viewer Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: list2014 at lunch.za.net Created attachment 1328 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1328&action=edit HTML part that causes lockup in css_value_list_append For mails sent by twitter, yammer and the odd spammer, the gtkhtml2 plugin goes into an infinite loop, consuming 100% CPU. I suspect it has to do with @media optional sections in CSS. claws-mail does not respond to a kill -TERM signal during this condition, which is a little odd. Backtrace: (gdb) bt #0 0x00007f84d2aec857 in css_value_list_append () from /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/gtkhtml2_viewer.so #1 0x00007f84d2aec08f in css_parser_parse_stylesheet () from /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/gtkhtml2_viewer.so #2 0x00007f84d2aed599 in ?? () from /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/gtkhtml2_viewer.so #3 0x00007f84d2aedb91 in ?? () from /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/gtkhtml2_viewer.so #4 0x00007f84fbc60257 in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__OBJECTv () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #5 0x00007f84fbc5d3b7 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #6 0x00007f84fbc75e82 in g_signal_emit_valist () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #7 0x00007f84fbc76ae2 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #8 0x00007f84d27d8389 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxml2.so.2 #9 0x00007f84d27dd513 in htmlParseChunk () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxml2.so.2 #10 0x00007f84d2b11d75 in html_stream_write () from /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/gtkhtml2_viewer.so #11 0x00007f84d2ae3f89 in ?? () from /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/gtkhtml2_viewer.so #12 0x00007f84fb994f13 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 #13 0x00007f84fb9943b6 in g_main_context_dispatch () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 #14 0x00007f84fb994708 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 #15 0x00007f84fb994b0a in g_main_loop_run () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 #16 0x00007f84fdd1a277 in gtk_main () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #17 0x00000000004473d8 in main (argc=1, argv=0x7fff64c7bce8) at main.c:1686 (gdb) n Single stepping until exit from function css_value_list_append, which has no line number information. (never returns) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 4 22:35:57 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 21:35:57 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3080] New: Message Moved to Trash Message Window Text - please remove Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3080 Bug ID: 3080 Summary: Message Moved to Trash Message Window Text - please remove Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: other Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: teknocratdefunct at riseup.net This dialog 'message moved to trash' should never occur in message windows. If a message is deleted from the message window options the next message in list should be automatically select, or just close the message pane. (Or give the user the option to choose) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 5 08:23:36 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 07:23:36 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3081] gtkhtml2_viewer locks in css_value_list_append In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3081 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Paul --- The Gtkhtml2 Viewer plugin has been discontinued. Please use the Fancy plugin instead. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 5 09:23:29 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 08:23:29 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3082] New: Meetings hangs 60-90 sec when I click it. Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3082 Bug ID: 3082 Summary: Meetings hangs 60-90 sec when I click it. Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/vCalendar Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: sergeyzsg at yandex.ru -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 5 09:24:49 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 08:24:49 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3082] Meetings hangs 60-90 sec when I click it. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3082 --- Comment #1 from Sergey Chuprakov --- Created attachment 1329 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1329&action=edit Hanging meetings -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 5 09:32:25 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 08:32:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3082] Meetings hangs 60-90 sec when I click it. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3082 --- Comment #2 from Paul --- all the attachment implies is that you have no meetings. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 5 12:05:43 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:05:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3082] Meetings hangs 60-90 sec when I click it. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3082 --- Comment #3 from Sergey Chuprakov --- Created attachment 1330 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1330&action=edit I was waiting for this -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 5 12:08:49 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:08:49 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3082] Meetings hangs 60-90 sec when I click it. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3082 --- Comment #4 from Sergey Chuprakov --- I have some meetings in the past (~1 year ago). But I don't understand why it is loading so slow. When I have no meetings in this month. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 5 12:26:33 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:26:33 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2981] claws-mail-3.9.2 compilation warnings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2981 mirraz1 at rambler.ru changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|LATER |--- --- Comment #2 from mirraz1 at rambler.ru --- Building claws-mail-3.9.3 by gcc-4.8.2 I'v got this warnings: src/plugins/vcalendar/libical/libical/icalderivedproperty.c:374:4: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘icalproperty_add_parameters’ [-Wimplicit-function-declaration] src/plugins/vcalendar/vcal_folder.c:2044:2: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘folder_item_prefs_save_config_recursive’ [-Wimplicit-function-declaration] src/plugins/vcalendar/libical/libical/icalmime.c:178:26: warning: argument to ‘sizeof’ in ‘memset’ call is the same expression as the destination; did you mean to dereference it? [-Wsizeof-pointer-memaccess] src/plugins/vcalendar/libical/libical/icalmime.c:364:26: warning: argument to ‘sizeof’ in ‘memset’ call is the same expression as the destination; did you mean to dereference it? [-Wsizeof-pointer-memaccess] src/plugins/vcalendar/libical/libical/icalparameter.c:109:25: warning: argument to ‘sizeof’ in ‘memset’ call is the same expression as the destination; did you mean to dereference it? [-Wsizeof-pointer-memaccess] src/plugins/vcalendar/libical/libical/sspm.c:688:2895: warning: argument to ‘sizeof’ in ‘strncmp’ call is the same expression as the second source; did you mean to provide an explicit length? [-Wsizeof-pointer-memaccess] src/plugins/vcalendar/libical/libical/sspm.c:794:2892: warning: argument to ‘sizeof’ in ‘strncmp’ call is the same expression as the second source; did you mean to provide an explicit length? [-Wsizeof-pointer-memaccess] -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 5 12:29:59 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:29:59 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2981] claws-mail-3.9.3 compilation warnings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2981 Ricardo Mones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Version|3.9.2 |3.9.3 Summary|claws-mail-3.9.2 |claws-mail-3.9.3 |compilation warnings |compilation warnings -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 5 12:39:44 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:39:44 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2981] claws-mail-3.9.3 compilation warnings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2981 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |LATER -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 5 12:58:50 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:58:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2981] claws-mail-3.9.3 compilation warnings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2981 --- Comment #3 from Ricardo Mones --- Patches welcome if you have some time to kill: http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.8/porting_to.html -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From scott at laircpa.com Wed Feb 5 16:48:49 2014 From: scott at laircpa.com (Scott Lair) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 10:48:49 -0500 Subject: [Users] searching email folder Message-ID: <20140205104849.0c85328d@debian-scottmyth.lairhome.com> I've noticed that I can search email folders with the "From/To/Subject/Tag" parameter. I was wondering how I can also add CC and BCC to that list of parameters. Using version 3.9.3 of claws mail. thanks, Scott From ricardo at mones.org Wed Feb 5 17:13:46 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 17:13:46 +0100 Subject: [Users] searching email folder In-Reply-To: <20140205104849.0c85328d@debian-scottmyth.lairhome.com> References: <20140205104849.0c85328d@debian-scottmyth.lairhome.com> Message-ID: <20140205161346.GJ12470@trasgu> On Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 10:48:49AM -0500, Scott Lair wrote: > I've noticed that I can search email folders with the > "From/To/Subject/Tag" parameter. I was wondering how I can also add CC There's already an ancient feature request for this¹, with a patch even, but never found time to check it... maybe this could be :) > and BCC to that list of parameters. Using version 3.9.3 of claws mail. AFAIK Bcc is a SMTP-only header, you shouldn't receive it, so no filtering is possible on this. regards, ¹http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1797 -- Ricardo Mones ~ Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it. Richard Feynman -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From scott at laircpa.com Wed Feb 5 18:13:05 2014 From: scott at laircpa.com (Scott Lair) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 12:13:05 -0500 Subject: [Users] searching email folder In-Reply-To: <20140205161346.GJ12470@trasgu> References: <20140205104849.0c85328d@debian-scottmyth.lairhome.com> <20140205161346.GJ12470@trasgu> Message-ID: <20140205121305.44b93dd3@debian-scottmyth.lairhome.com> On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 17:13:46 +0100 Ricardo Mones wrote: > On Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 10:48:49AM -0500, Scott Lair wrote: > > I've noticed that I can search email folders with the > > "From/To/Subject/Tag" parameter. I was wondering how I can also add > > CC > > There's already an ancient feature request for this¹, with a patch > even, but never found time to check it... maybe this could be :) > > > and BCC to that list of parameters. Using version 3.9.3 of claws > > mail. > > AFAIK Bcc is a SMTP-only header, you shouldn't receive it, so no > filtering is possible on this. > > regards, > > ¹http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1797 Bummer. I lack sufficient brain power to run this through. Maybe it'll make it in eventually. thanks. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 5 18:41:35 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 17:41:35 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3083] New: Pressing the Enter key on a message activates the disabled Message View Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3083 Bug ID: 3083 Summary: Pressing the Enter key on a message activates the disabled Message View Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.9.3 Hardware: PC OS: Windows 8 Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: alb348 at gmail.com When the Enter key in the message list, the message is displayed in the Message View, even if this view was disabled. The desired and expected outcome, instead, was that pressing the Enter key opens a new window with the relevant message. It should also be ensured that the Message View once disabled stays disabled. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From gheskett at wdtv.com Wed Feb 5 21:24:21 2014 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 15:24:21 -0500 Subject: [Users] searching email folder In-Reply-To: <20140205161346.GJ12470@trasgu> References: <20140205104849.0c85328d@debian-scottmyth.lairhome.com> <20140205161346.GJ12470@trasgu> Message-ID: <201402051524.21946.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Wednesday 05 February 2014 15:24:01 Ricardo Mones did opine: > On Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 10:48:49AM -0500, Scott Lair wrote: > > I've noticed that I can search email folders with the > > "From/To/Subject/Tag" parameter. I was wondering how I can also add CC > > There's already an ancient feature request for this¹, with a patch > even, but never found time to check it... maybe this could be :) > > > and BCC to that list of parameters. Using version 3.9.3 of claws mail. > > AFAIK Bcc is a SMTP-only header, you shouldn't receive it, so no > filtering is possible on this. > > regards, > > ¹http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1797 Your pgp sig is bad. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 5 21:45:17 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 20:45:17 +0000 Subject: [Users] searching email folder In-Reply-To: <201402051524.21946.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <20140205104849.0c85328d@debian-scottmyth.lairhome.com> <20140205161346.GJ12470@trasgu> <201402051524.21946.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <20140205204517.3da461ea@thewildbeast> On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 15:24:21 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: > Your pgp sig is bad. No, your keyring needs updating. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From gheskett at wdtv.com Wed Feb 5 22:08:21 2014 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 16:08:21 -0500 Subject: [Users] searching email folder In-Reply-To: <20140205204517.3da461ea@thewildbeast> References: <20140205104849.0c85328d@debian-scottmyth.lairhome.com> <201402051524.21946.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140205204517.3da461ea@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <201402051608.21915.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Wednesday 05 February 2014 16:07:57 Paul did opine: > On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 15:24:21 -0500 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > Your pgp sig is bad. > > No, your keyring needs updating. > > with regards > > Paul Ok, how do I do that? Thanks Paul. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. From brad at fineby.me.uk Wed Feb 5 23:49:18 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 22:49:18 +0000 Subject: [Users] searching email folder In-Reply-To: <201402051608.21915.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <20140205104849.0c85328d@debian-scottmyth.lairhome.com> <201402051524.21946.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140205204517.3da461ea@thewildbeast> <201402051608.21915.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <20140205224918.3315df4a@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 16:08:21 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: Hello Gene, >Ok, how do I do that? gpg --refresh-keys, assuming you're using gpg, of course. Warning; It can take quite a while, if you've got a lot of keys. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Walking through town is quite scary I Predict A Riot - Kaiser Chiefs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gheskett at wdtv.com Thu Feb 6 00:02:28 2014 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 18:02:28 -0500 Subject: [Users] searching email folder In-Reply-To: <20140205224918.3315df4a@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20140205104849.0c85328d@debian-scottmyth.lairhome.com> <201402051608.21915.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140205224918.3315df4a@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <201402051802.28283.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Wednesday 05 February 2014 17:59:22 Brad Rogers did opine: > On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 16:08:21 -0500 > Gene Heskett wrote: > > Hello Gene, > > >Ok, how do I do that? > > gpg --refresh-keys, assuming you're using gpg, of course. > > Warning; It can take quite a while, if you've got a lot of keys. Thank you and that it does. Should I commit to that being a cron job, if so at what nominal interval so as not to abuse the server? Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 6 08:46:44 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 07:46:44 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2981] claws-mail-3.9.3 compilation warnings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2981 --- Comment #4 from mirraz1 at rambler.ru --- Created attachment 1331 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1331&action=edit Compilation Warning elimination patch Propose patch that eliminates almost all warnings except more complicated one: icalderivedproperty.c:374:4: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘icalproperty_add_parameters’ -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 6 08:49:34 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 07:49:34 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2981] claws-mail-3.9.3 compilation warnings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2981 mirraz1 at rambler.ru changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Component|Other |Plugins/vCalendar Resolution|LATER |--- Severity|minor |normal -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From brad at fineby.me.uk Thu Feb 6 10:17:36 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 09:17:36 +0000 Subject: [Users] searching email folder In-Reply-To: <201402051802.28283.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <20140205104849.0c85328d@debian-scottmyth.lairhome.com> <201402051608.21915.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140205224918.3315df4a@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <201402051802.28283.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <20140206091736.4def255a@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 18:02:28 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: Hello Gene, >Thank you and that it does. Should I commit to that being a cron job, Yw, Gene. >if so at what nominal interval so as not to abuse the server? It's up to you whether you run it as a cron job not. Personally, I don't. I usually run the command manually in a shell, where it can be left to get on with it, if I get a warning of some sort; Bad sig(1), expired key, that sort of thing. I run it perhaps four times a year. As a cron, I certainly wouldn't run it more than once a month. (1) Not always after a bad sig warning though, as google is notorious for fiddling with message wrapping and so forth *after* it's been signed, and some mailing lists seem to create bad sig problems, too. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" I guess I shouldn't have strangled her to death Ugly - The Stranglers -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gheskett at wdtv.com Thu Feb 6 12:55:29 2014 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 06:55:29 -0500 Subject: [Users] searching email folder In-Reply-To: <20140206091736.4def255a@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20140205104849.0c85328d@debian-scottmyth.lairhome.com> <201402051802.28283.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140206091736.4def255a@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <201402060655.29541.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Thursday 06 February 2014 06:54:22 Brad Rogers did opine: > On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 18:02:28 -0500 > Gene Heskett wrote: > > Hello Gene, > > >Thank you and that it does. Should I commit to that being a cron job, > > Yw, Gene. > > >if so at what nominal interval so as not to abuse the server? > > It's up to you whether you run it as a cron job not. Personally, I > don't. I usually run the command manually in a shell, where it can be > left to get on with it, if I get a warning of some sort; Bad sig(1), > expired key, that sort of thing. I run it perhaps four times a year. > As a cron, I certainly wouldn't run it more than once a month. > > (1) Not always after a bad sig warning though, as google is notorious > for fiddling with message wrapping and so forth *after* it's been > signed, and some mailing lists seem to create bad sig problems, too. Thanks Brad, I'll leave it along then, but probably forget how since the wet ram is getting old & creaky. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. From rwmaillists at googlemail.com Thu Feb 6 13:35:17 2014 From: rwmaillists at googlemail.com (RW) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 12:35:17 +0000 Subject: [Users] searching email folder References: <20140205104849.0c85328d@debian-scottmyth.lairhome.com> <20140205161346.GJ12470@trasgu> Message-ID: <20140206123517.75e07afa@gumby.homeunix.com> On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 17:13:46 +0100 Ricardo Mones wrote: > AFAIK Bcc is a SMTP-only header, you shouldn't receive it, so no > filtering is possible on this. It exists in draft messages. From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Thu Feb 6 13:49:25 2014 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 09:49:25 -0300 Subject: [Users] Impoting Maildir folders Message-ID: <20140206094925.4148e09b@ron.cerrocora.org> Is there a simple way to import maildir folders ? (I have been asked to rescue old mails, created with Kmail on a now-defunct Mageia system) Cheers, Ron. PS I suppose they are Maildir: each folder with tmp, new and cur sub-folders -- MS Windows is not the answer, its the question; and the answer is NO. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From rwmaillists at googlemail.com Thu Feb 6 13:51:09 2014 From: rwmaillists at googlemail.com (RW) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 12:51:09 +0000 Subject: [Users] searching email folder References: <20140205104849.0c85328d@debian-scottmyth.lairhome.com> <20140205161346.GJ12470@trasgu> <20140206123517.75e07afa@gumby.homeunix.com> Message-ID: <20140206125109.4811a1db@gumby.homeunix.com> On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 12:35:17 +0000 RW wrote: > On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 17:13:46 +0100 > Ricardo Mones wrote: > > > > > AFAIK Bcc is a SMTP-only header, you shouldn't receive it, so no > > filtering is possible on this. > > It exists in draft messages. That should have been draft or sent messages. From bugreporter at abwesend.de Thu Feb 6 13:52:04 2014 From: bugreporter at abwesend.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 13:52:04 +0100 Subject: [Users] Issues with gtkcmctree? Message-ID: <20140206135204.26d88f71@noname> Hello everyone, especially the developers! I've been observing incoming bugzilla tickets for Claws Mail at the Fedora Project for some time, trying to collect missing details from reporters: http://bugz.fedoraproject.org In many cases the program crashed spontaneously and non-reproducibly. A couple of issues with gtkcmctree have been reported recently: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1025818 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1035851 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1062185 Any ideas? From ricardo at mones.org Thu Feb 6 17:02:23 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 17:02:23 +0100 Subject: [Users] searching email folder In-Reply-To: <20140206125109.4811a1db@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20140205104849.0c85328d@debian-scottmyth.lairhome.com> <20140205161346.GJ12470@trasgu> <20140206123517.75e07afa@gumby.homeunix.com> <20140206125109.4811a1db@gumby.homeunix.com> Message-ID: <20140206160223.GL12470@trasgu> On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 12:51:09PM +0000, RW wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 12:35:17 +0000 > RW wrote: > > > On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 17:13:46 +0100 > > Ricardo Mones wrote: > > > > > > > > > AFAIK Bcc is a SMTP-only header, you shouldn't receive it, so no > > > filtering is possible on this. > > > > It exists in draft messages. > > That should have been draft or sent messages. You're right, but I think Cc is more useful to have in the mixed quick search option than Bcc. You can still quick search by Bcc (or any other header) in such folders. Maybe the option you miss is really another which searches for any header with an address and leave that mixed option alone (whose label is already too large, BTW). regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ Don't take the name of root in vain. /usr/src/linux/README -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Don't I know it. :-( -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" But they didn't tell him the first two didn't count Tin Soldiers - Stiff Little Fingers -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From slitt at troubleshooters.com Thu Feb 6 18:49:49 2014 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 12:49:49 -0500 Subject: [Users] Impoting Maildir folders In-Reply-To: <20140206094925.4148e09b@ron.cerrocora.org> References: <20140206094925.4148e09b@ron.cerrocora.org> Message-ID: <20140206124949.771db171@mydesk> On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 09:49:25 -0300 "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" wrote: > Is there a simple way to import maildir folders ? > > (I have been asked to rescue old mails, created with Kmail on a > now-defunct Mageia system) > Cheers, > > Ron. > > PS I suppose they are Maildir: each folder with tmp, new and cur > sub-folders Here's the quick and dirty way I'd handle this... 1. Determine whether this "kmail" was kmail2 or the earlier kmail. 2. Quick and dirty install Linux on an old box with extra room or an experimental box. The version of Linux installed should be one with the proper kmail version. If you know the version of mageia, this would be ideal. 3. I don't know exactly how to do this, but get your kmail to use the former Maildir 4. Copy every tree from the temporary Linux machine to an IMAP like gmail. 5. On your new, legitimate machine, fire up Claws and point it at the IMAP account referenced in the preceding step. 6. When you're sure every email has been transferred to your new, legitimate machine, be sure to wipe out the IMAP copies from gmail or whatever. You never know when the NSA will come to Google bearing subpoenas. 7. Once everything's good, tested, and backed up, feel free to wipe the temporary machine and use it for something else. Extra credit if, on your new, legitimate machine, you set up a local IMAP so you *never* have this problem again, and your emails are no longer stored on your client. Added benefits include travelling access to your personal email via port 993, and the possibility of filtering via Procmail, so your mail gets filtered the same way regardless of email client. Here's an article on how to do that: http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/201202/201202.htm#_The_Pivotal_Suggestion The information from there to the bottom of the file deals with the subject at hand. SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance From andrej at kacian.sk Thu Feb 6 19:35:34 2014 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 19:35:34 +0100 Subject: [Users] Impoting Maildir folders In-Reply-To: <20140206124949.771db171@mydesk> References: <20140206094925.4148e09b@ron.cerrocora.org> <20140206124949.771db171@mydesk> Message-ID: <20140206193534.36af078e@penny> On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 12:49:49 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > and the possibility of filtering via Procmail Getting off-topic here, but I'd suggest Dovecot's sieve plugin for filtering instead of procmail. Not only are the rules easier to understand, read and write, but making a small syntax error in sieve rules won't end with e-mails being silently discarded like it happens with procmail, but neatly delivered to default inbox instead. -- Andrej Kacian From jquill81 at gmail.com Thu Feb 6 19:53:35 2014 From: jquill81 at gmail.com (Jerry) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 19:53:35 +0100 Subject: [Users] Managing custom email headers Message-ID: For some reason I am quite intrigued by custom mail headers. As far as I understand, Claws Mail is one of the most geeky email client, if not THE most geeky of all, so I guess it should support at least some advanced header management. I have a couple of questions for you: 1) can custom headers for outgoing emails be set on a per-account basis? 2) does Claws mail's Python scripting have access to email headers? In particular, can a Python script generate custom headers for outgoing emails? In case these features are not supported, do you know of any other email client that supports them? Thanks josh From berndth at gmx.de Thu Feb 6 20:10:41 2014 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 20:10:41 +0100 Subject: [Users] Managing custom email headers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140206201041.013d2e57@wodan> On Do, 06.02.2014 19:53, Jerry wrote: >1) can custom headers for outgoing emails be set on a per-account basis? Account preferences -> send -> add user-defined header >2) does Claws mail's Python scripting have access to email headers? In >particular, can a Python script generate custom headers for outgoing >emails? In the compose_any script: clawsmail.compose_window.add_header("X-Foo", "Bar") Holger From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 6 22:37:43 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 21:37:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 1959] Selection selects too many under expanded view In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1959 Bernd Eckenfels changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |ecki at zusammenkunft.net --- Comment #2 from Bernd Eckenfels --- It is also a problem when you click one mail (Windows 7 in my case), then press shift and cursor down 2 times (selecting in total 3 mails). It is normally expected that if you release the shift key and click another mail, then the other mail should be selected and the original 3 selected mails should be deselected. What actually happs is, that the older 3 are still colored but not really selected. One has to ctrl+click them all 3 to get rid of the marker. Might be related to Bug#2490 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 6 22:40:19 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 21:40:19 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2490] Selecting mails through Shift-Home/End doesn't work properly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2490 --- Comment #3 from Bernd Eckenfels --- It actually marks the selection starting by the clicked line not the line where the focus is after cursor-down key. This seems to be related to Bug#1959 (and both still exists in Win7 3.9.3) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From jquill81 at gmail.com Thu Feb 6 22:43:11 2014 From: jquill81 at gmail.com (Jerry) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 22:43:11 +0100 Subject: [Users] Possibility of UI extension via custom pane/external window? Message-ID: Would it be possible for a Python script run by Claws Mail to manage a custom pane (frame) integrated within Claws Mail's UI? For example, to display some real-time information (generated by the Python script) relating to the sender of the message that is currently highlighed in the message list, or to display some notification of some sort, or whatever. In case integrating a custom pane within the current Ui was really impossible, would it be possible for the Python script to decrease the size of the window in which Claws Mail is running, then to open an external window right below CM's window, or beside it, and manage its contents? Of course, this would require that the Python script be constantly running, since the contents of that window would have to be updated depending of the current events taking place in Claws Mail. Have any similar things ever been done in Claws Mail? Do you envisage any impediments to the realization of such an extension to Claws Mail? Thanks From rwmaillists at googlemail.com Fri Feb 7 00:58:54 2014 From: rwmaillists at googlemail.com (RW) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 23:58:54 +0000 Subject: [Users] searching email folder References: <20140205104849.0c85328d@debian-scottmyth.lairhome.com> <20140205161346.GJ12470@trasgu> <20140206123517.75e07afa@gumby.homeunix.com> <20140206125109.4811a1db@gumby.homeunix.com> <20140206160223.GL12470@trasgu> Message-ID: <20140206235854.661a5378@gumby.homeunix.com> On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 17:02:23 +0100 Ricardo Mones wrote: > Maybe the option you miss is really another which searches for any > header with an address and leave that mixed option alone (whose label > is already too large, BTW). I don't see the the need to treat "To" so literally in terms of header names. I'd have have "To" include things like To Cc Resent-To Resent-Cc Apparently-To Delivered-To Envelope-Recipients Apparently-Resent-To X-Envelope-To Envelope-To X-Delivered-To X-Original-To X-Rcpt-To X-Real-To From/to/subject/tag is a too broad a search to be so restrictive on recipient headers. From inigo_aldazabal at ehu.es Fri Feb 7 09:42:19 2014 From: inigo_aldazabal at ehu.es (Inigo Aldazabal Mensa) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 09:42:19 +0100 Subject: [Users] Impoting Maildir folders In-Reply-To: <20140206124949.771db171@mydesk> References: <20140206094925.4148e09b@ron.cerrocora.org> <20140206124949.771db171@mydesk> Message-ID: <20140207094219.4d8508af@U002498.sn.ehu.es> On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 12:49:49 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 09:49:25 -0300 > "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" wrote: > > > Is there a simple way to import maildir folders ? > > > > (I have been asked to rescue old mails, created with Kmail on a > > now-defunct Mageia system) > > Cheers, > > > > Ron. > > > > PS I suppose they are Maildir: each folder with tmp, new and cur > > sub-folders > > Here's the quick and dirty way I'd handle this... > > > 1. Determine whether this "kmail" was kmail2 or the earlier kmail. > > 2. Quick and dirty install Linux on an old box with extra room or an > experimental box. The version of Linux installed should be one with > the proper kmail version. If you know the version of mageia, this > would be ideal. > > 3. I don't know exactly how to do this, but get your kmail to use the > former Maildir See here > > 4. Copy every tree from the temporary Linux machine to an IMAP like > gmail. > > 5. On your new, legitimate machine, fire up Claws and point it at the > IMAP account referenced in the preceding step. > > 6. When you're sure every email has been transferred to your new, > legitimate machine, be sure to wipe out the IMAP copies from gmail > or whatever. You never know when the NSA will come to Google > bearing subpoenas. > > 7. Once everything's good, tested, and backed up, feel free to wipe > the temporary machine and use it for something else. > > > Extra credit if, on your new, legitimate machine, you set up a local > IMAP so you *never* have this problem again, and your emails are no > longer stored on your client. Added benefits include travelling access > to your personal email via port 993, and the possibility of filtering > via Procmail, so your mail gets filtered the same way regardless of > email client. Here's an article on how to do that: > > http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/201202/201202.htm#_The_Pivotal_Suggestion > > The information from there to the bottom of the file deals with the > subject at hand. > > SteveT > > Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ > Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users From inigo_aldazabal at ehu.es Fri Feb 7 09:42:46 2014 From: inigo_aldazabal at ehu.es (Inigo Aldazabal Mensa) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 09:42:46 +0100 Subject: [Users] Impoting Maildir folders In-Reply-To: <20140207094219.4d8508af@U002498.sn.ehu.es> References: <20140206094925.4148e09b@ron.cerrocora.org> <20140206124949.771db171@mydesk> <20140207094219.4d8508af@U002498.sn.ehu.es> Message-ID: <20140207094246.418eaf26@U002498.sn.ehu.es> On Fri, 7 Feb 2014 09:42:19 +0100 Inigo Aldazabal Mensa wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 12:49:49 -0500 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 09:49:25 -0300 > > "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" wrote: > > > > > Is there a simple way to import maildir folders ? > > > > > > (I have been asked to rescue old mails, created with Kmail on a > > > now-defunct Mageia system) > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Ron. > > > > > > PS I suppose they are Maildir: each folder with tmp, new and cur > > > sub-folders > > > > Here's the quick and dirty way I'd handle this... > > > > > > 1. Determine whether this "kmail" was kmail2 or the earlier kmail. > > > > 2. Quick and dirty install Linux on an old box with extra room or an > > experimental box. The version of Linux installed should be one > > with the proper kmail version. If you know the version of mageia, > > this would be ideal. > > > > 3. I don't know exactly how to do this, but get your kmail to use > > the former Maildir > See here uuppss http://artipc10.vub.ac.be/wordpress/2010/08/26/migrating-mail-from-kmail-to-evolution/ > > > > > 4. Copy every tree from the temporary Linux machine to an IMAP like > > gmail. > > > > 5. On your new, legitimate machine, fire up Claws and point it at > > the IMAP account referenced in the preceding step. > > > > 6. When you're sure every email has been transferred to your new, > > legitimate machine, be sure to wipe out the IMAP copies from > > gmail or whatever. You never know when the NSA will come to Google > > bearing subpoenas. > > > > 7. Once everything's good, tested, and backed up, feel free to wipe > > the temporary machine and use it for something else. > > > > > > Extra credit if, on your new, legitimate machine, you set up a local > > IMAP so you *never* have this problem again, and your emails are no > > longer stored on your client. Added benefits include travelling > > access to your personal email via port 993, and the possibility of > > filtering via Procmail, so your mail gets filtered the same way > > regardless of email client. Here's an article on how to do that: > > > > http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/201202/201202.htm#_The_Pivotal_Suggestion > > > > The information from there to the bottom of the file deals with the > > subject at hand. > > > > SteveT > > > > Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ > > Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 7 12:52:00 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 11:52:00 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3084] New: gtk_cmctree_is_viewable(): claws-mail killed by SIGSEGV Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3084 Bug ID: 3084 Summary: gtk_cmctree_is_viewable(): claws-mail killed by SIGSEGV Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.9.3 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Folder List Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: mschwendt at gmail.com More than one users have reported this or a similar crash. A fresh crash from today https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1062589 with a potential duplicate from old Claws Mail 3.8.0: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/831726 Full backtrace: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=860444 Further reports that mention gtkcmctree.c: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1025818 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1035851 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1062185 Any ideas? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From bugreporter at abwesend.de Fri Feb 7 12:52:10 2014 From: bugreporter at abwesend.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 12:52:10 +0100 Subject: [Users] Issues with gtkcmctree? In-Reply-To: <20140206135204.26d88f71@noname> References: <20140206135204.26d88f71@noname> Message-ID: <20140207125210.7dcb40f5@noname> > http://bugz.fedoraproject.org http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/claws-mail > In many cases the program crashed spontaneously and non-reproducibly. > > A couple of issues with gtkcmctree have been reported recently: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1025818 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1035851 > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1062185 > > Any ideas? A fresh one from today https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1062589 with a potential duplicate from old Claws Mail 3.8.0: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/831726 From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 7 13:05:03 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 12:05:03 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3084] gtk_cmctree_is_viewable(): claws-mail killed by SIGSEGV In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3084 --- Comment #1 from Paul --- http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/page.cgi?id=bug-writing.html -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 7 13:19:36 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 12:19:36 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3084] gtk_cmctree_is_viewable(): claws-mail killed by SIGSEGV In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3084 Michael Schwendt changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #2 from Michael Schwendt --- Sorry to hear that you are not interested in problem reports and that you consider them as not helpful. I will refrain from forwarding further bug report then and unsubscribe from the Fedora watchbugzilla acl, too. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 7 13:46:26 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 12:46:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3084] gtk_cmctree_is_viewable(): claws-mail killed by SIGSEGV In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3084 --- Comment #3 from Paul --- Michael, I don't recall saying "not interested", I'm just suggesting that you can provide more information, such as what the bug is and the steps to reproduce it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 7 14:40:52 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 13:40:52 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3084] gtk_cmctree_is_viewable(): claws-mail killed by SIGSEGV In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3084 Michael Schwendt changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |andreas.bierfert at lowlatency | |.de --- Comment #4 from Michael Schwendt --- I had hoped that a Claws Mail developer would have a theory about what may have gone wrong or what could be ruled out. Even negative acknowledgement or a theory that the crash might be just a side-effect would have been more encouraging than pointing me at the bug-writing instructions. There is a detailed backtrace attached to those tickets, but for several crashes of Claws Mail its users do not know how to reproduce the crash. Sometimes all they can tell is that they have had it crash more than once. When it crashes spontaneously, perhaps only as a side-effect (IMAP access instabilities e.g.), the users receive notification by the Automatic Bug Reporting Tool, which they use to submit the bug reports in Fedora bugzilla. We can't do much with those reports, if there are no steps on how to reproduce a problem. And we don't forward each report anyway. For instance, if Claws Mail is taken down in glibc memory management due to heap corruption (or double-free, whatever) and the user tries to perform the same actions, but cannot reproduce the problem, there is nothing we can do other than telling the user to run memtest86+, be more careful when using the UI, or that networking problems can crash CM during IMAP access. Eventually we receive a report about the same/similar crash again, and if there isn't an upstream ticket about it yet, what to do then? For now I've lost interest in learning about crash reports in Claws Mail. I had hoped that a report such as bug 2769 would be useful, would be responded to, and might lead to finding something (such as not resetting ptrs to NULL after a free(), for example). Or that a report like bug 2398 would ever be responded to by a developer. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 7 14:54:34 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 13:54:34 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3084] gtk_cmctree_is_viewable(): claws-mail killed by SIGSEGV In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3084 --- Comment #5 from Colin Leroy --- Hi Michael, This class of bugs are as you say, old and their seemingly random appearance point at some memory corruption that is difficult to pinpoint. Sadly these stacktraces, while technically good, full with symbols available, are just the picture of the "exit wound", and I never could find what triggers the corruption. Running under valgrind 24/7 until it happens would help, but it is really difficult and nobody has had the courage to do it until now. I remember trying hard to reproduce this kind of bug, and I myself sometimes have faced it, but never when running valgrind, and at work, where I have other priorities. So I did not manage to understand it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 7 15:35:40 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:35:40 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2769] crash when activating offline mode during IMAP remote activity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2769 --- Comment #2 from Michael Schwendt --- Reproducible with Claws Mail 3.9.3 (x86_64 Fedora 20) and caused malloc to crash again: $ claws-mail (claws-mail:9041): Claws-Mail-CRITICAL **: imap_scan_required: assertion 'session != NULL' failed (claws-mail:9041): Claws-Mail-WARNING **: can't get message file path. Segmentation fault (core dumped) When running via valgrind, it seems the slow-down is too high, and instead of a segfault there are only warnings on the terminal: ** (claws-mail:8837): WARNING **: [15:30:03] IMAP error on imap.googlemail.com: bad state ** (claws-mail:8837): WARNING **: [15:30:03] IMAP4 connection broken ** (claws-mail:8837): WARNING **: [15:30:03] can't select folder: [Google Mail]/All Mail (claws-mail:8837): Claws-Mail-WARNING **: can't get message file path. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 7 18:21:56 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 17:21:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3085] New: "Thread by Subject" sometimes requires a prefix (e.g. RE: ) sometimes does not when deciding if messages are part of same thread Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3085 Bug ID: 3085 Summary: "Thread by Subject" sometimes requires a prefix (e.g. RE: ) sometimes does not when deciding if messages are part of same thread Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: minor Priority: P3 Component: UI/Message List Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: aidenn0 at geocities.com subject_hastable_lookup and subject_table_lookup are both used, but behave differently. Personally, I prefer that messages that are identical in subject be threaded together, but either way, it should probably be consistent. Changing the "if (prefix_length <= 0)" to "if (prefix_length < 0)" in subject_hashtable_lookup gets the behavior that I expected, but I understand if that's not the intended behavior of the feature. To reproduce, you can have a mailbox with 2 messages with identical subjects, but none of the threading related headers; they will not show up as threaded in the thread view, but they will both be marked as ignored if you select "ignore thread" on one of them. I noticed also that the code for handling moved messagese uses subject_table_lookup but I'm not sure if any odd behavior happens due to that. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 7 19:15:19 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 18:15:19 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3085] folder_item_scan_full() does stupid things with ignored thread marks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3085 Jason changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|"Thread by Subject" |folder_item_scan_full() |sometimes requires a prefix |does stupid things with |(e.g. RE: ) sometimes does |ignored thread marks |not when deciding if | |messages are part of same | |thread | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 7 19:19:59 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 18:19:59 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3085] folder_item_scan_full() does stupid things with ignored thread marks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3085 --- Comment #1 from Jason --- I spoke with paul on IRC about this. It is intentional that children need to have some sort of prefix in the subject indicating a reply. However, it is bizzare how folder_item_scan_full tries to propagate ignored thread marks (but not e.g. watched thread marks) and does so only by subject (so not by in-reply-to). And will do so both up and down the thread tree (so if you ignored a sub-thread, congratulations, the whole thread is now ignored -- but only e-mails from people on the thread didn't use in-reply-to. The correct fix is to rip out that messed up logic, and if it is desired to propagate these marks in scan_full then use the logic for building up threads correctly that is from the threaded view in the summary, then walk the tree and propagte to children. I can submit a patch that does the "Right Thing" or just rip out the broken ignore-thread code, depending on whether or not people think that unmarked children of {watched|ignored} threads should be marked likewise -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 8 02:09:40 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 01:09:40 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3084] gtk_cmctree_is_viewable(): claws-mail killed by SIGSEGV In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3084 --- Comment #6 from Michael Schwendt --- You say "a class of bugs". I don't know whether this particular crash is only a side-effect. But what several other crash reports have in common is that they are related to losing/interrupting an IMAP connection due to networking troubles or using the "go offline" button or trying to close a busy Claws Mail. That's exactly why I had thought that bug 2769 would be relevant and interesting, since it contains steps on how to reproduce it and results in crashing Claws Mail in random places such as memory management. Is it wrong to assume that a developer, who is familiar with the design of the software, could proof-read the "go offline" feature and figure out why/where it crashes Claws Mail by forcefully interrupting an active IMAP connection? Isn't that very similar to the crashes users encounter when facing interruptions of their networking connection during IMAP access? Is there a thread that continues working with pointers to deallocated structures, for instance? >From the perspective of a bug-triager, my hands are empty if you've given up. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 8 02:20:22 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 01:20:22 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2351] IMAP related crash in folder_item_get_msginfo_by_msgid () at folder.c:2771 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2351 Michael Schwendt changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #5 from Michael Schwendt --- Closing in favour of bug 2769 and due to the comments in bug 3084. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 8 02:20:55 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 01:20:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2448] IMAP stream error resulting in Claws Mail crash in log_warning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2448 Michael Schwendt changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #2 from Michael Schwendt --- Closing in favour of bug 2769 and due to the comments in bug 3084. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 8 02:20:56 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 01:20:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2869] summary_execute_move: Process /usr/bin/claws-mail was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2869 --- Comment #1 from Michael Schwendt --- No idea whether this is a side-effect of the long-standing IMAP instabilities. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 8 02:20:47 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 01:20:47 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2384] Crash in imap_session_new at imap.c:1121 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2384 Michael Schwendt changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Michael Schwendt --- Closing in favour of bug 2769 and due to the comments in bug 3084. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 8 02:20:55 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 01:20:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2515] Memory dealloc segfault in libetpan mailimap_free upon IMAP SSL reconnect In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2515 Michael Schwendt changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Michael Schwendt --- Closing in favour of bug 2769 and due to the comments in bug 3084. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 8 02:20:55 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 01:20:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2440] Crash in folder_item_parent -- IMAP folders In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2440 Michael Schwendt changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Michael Schwendt --- Closing in favour of bug 2769 and due to the comments in bug 3084. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 8 02:20:54 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 01:20:54 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2417] malloc corruption symptoms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2417 Michael Schwendt changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Michael Schwendt --- Closing in favour of bug 2769 and due to the comments in bug 3084. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 8 19:15:34 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 18:15:34 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3086] New: Custom pane integrated within Claws Mail's UI Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3086 Bug ID: 3086 Summary: Custom pane integrated within Claws Mail's UI Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: other Hardware: All OS: All Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: UI Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: jquil at gmx.com Requested enhancement: custom pane (frame) integrated within Claws Mail's UI, to be used by Python scripts to display some information. This feature can be very useful. Claws Mail's overall functionality can be greatly enhanced via Python scripts that display real-time information (for example regarding the sender of the currently highlighted email in the message list, or some relevant Python-generated statistics) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 8 19:47:24 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 18:47:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3086] Custom pane integrated within Claws Mail's UI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3086 --- Comment #1 from Paul --- what sort of information? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From kae at midnighthax.com Sat Feb 8 20:15:38 2014 From: kae at midnighthax.com (Keith Edmunds) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 19:15:38 +0000 Subject: [Users] Address matching Message-ID: <20140208191538.6b6bc68f@ws.the.cage> I have nicknames in my address book for common mail recipients. Until 3.9.3, I could type, for example, 'gh' in the To: field and Claws would match the nickname. With 3.9.3, as the release notes say, "The TAB address completion in the Compose window now matches any part of the address and not just the beginning.". Is there a way to suppress that behaviour? Failing that, is there a recommended way to have shortcuts for people I frequently email? Thanks -- Blog: http://goo.gl/iOwv1w "You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you." From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 8 20:56:10 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 19:56:10 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3086] Custom pane integrated within Claws Mail's UI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3086 --- Comment #2 from jquil at gmx.com --- As I said, the information to be displayed could be about the sender of the currently highlighted email in the message list, or some relevant Python-generated statistics about the previous emails from that contact, or some related database-retrieved info, or any other context-rellevant information that could be useful (as specified by the user); this could be used also when composing emails. There is an endless range of possibilities here. All of this would be managed by the Python scripts. The only thing that we need from Claws Mail is the possibility of displaying some info within a frame. This enhancement could be seen as a sort of virtual assistant or secretary: while you are doing your own thing within the email client, there is a 'secretary' that reminds you of this or that relevant fact, based on the context of what you are doing. By pushing this concept even further, you could even actively interact with the 'secretary' by requesting a more detailed info about something, but this is something totally outside the scope of the feature that I am requesting. Bottomline: all I am asking for is a content frame that can be used by Python scripts for a variety of uses. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From ricardo at mones.org Sat Feb 8 22:00:59 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 22:00:59 +0100 Subject: [Users] Address matching In-Reply-To: <20140208191538.6b6bc68f@ws.the.cage> References: <20140208191538.6b6bc68f@ws.the.cage> Message-ID: <20140208210059.GV12470@trasgu> On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 07:15:38PM +0000, Keith Edmunds wrote: > I have nicknames in my address book for common mail recipients. Until > 3.9.3, I could type, for example, 'gh' in the To: field and Claws > would match the nickname. > > With 3.9.3, as the release notes say, "The TAB address completion in the > Compose window now matches any part of the address and not just the > beginning.". > > Is there a way to suppress that behaviour? [...] Paul has added a couple of hidden preferences¹, one of them to allow this behaviour back. If you build Claws yourself you can apply the patch, otherwise you'll have to wait until next release. regards, ¹ http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=b59ac7ec8e8cfacd3566714be6aa2cf3b233546f -- Ricardo Mones ~ Never send a human to do a machine's job. Agent Smith -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 9 00:24:01 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 23:24:01 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3087] New: creating action gives me non-responsive and modal 'Action Configuration' window Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3087 Bug ID: 3087 Summary: creating action gives me non-responsive and modal 'Action Configuration' window Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: other Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: rayClaws at ganymede.org I am trying to set up a simple filter, just to move messages that are to a certain name to their own folder. I can set up the condition without problems. When I use the 'Configuration' -> 'Filtering..." menu item, I get the 'Filtering Configuration' window. If I click on the "Define" button next to the Action textfield, I see the 'Action configuration' window. None of the buttons in this window respond to any mouse click. The close box for the window also does not work. If any button click in that window causes another window to pop up, then the buttons on that window do not seem to work either. Sometimes I can, somehow, close that window. But the 'Action configuration' window still does not respond in any helpful way. Since this window is modal, the only way to get out of this is to kill the app. I am sure that if I could write out the action in the textfield, it would work fine. And I see the wiki page with some example actions, but there is no example of just moving a message to a folder. I am somewhat new to using ubuntu as my desktop machine, so I may be doing something wrong but I do not see it. I can define a condition using the 'Condition configuration' window and that window's buttons respond and work fine. So, what is different about the 'Action configuration' window? I am running Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS on an Asus Notebook PC. I am not sure what other information about this system you might need. Let me know if there is something that will help. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 9 00:25:18 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 23:25:18 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3087] creating action gives me non-responsive and modal 'Action Configuration' window In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3087 Ray Kiddy changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Version|other |3.8.0 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 9 09:02:25 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 08:02:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3069] occasional crashes when reading NNTP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3069 --- Comment #2 from D --- Nobody? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 9 09:44:10 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 08:44:10 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3069] occasional crashes when reading NNTP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3069 --- Comment #3 from Paul --- nobody yet -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 9 09:48:48 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 08:48:48 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3087] creating action gives me non-responsive and modal 'Action Configuration' window In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3087 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE --- Comment #1 from Paul --- Looks like another overlay-scrollbar bug. Please remove the overlay-scrollbar and overlay-scrollbar-gtk2 packages from your system. They are buggy and should not be used. *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 3022 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 9 09:48:48 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 08:48:48 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3022] Filters/Pre/Post Processing completely broken In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3022 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |rayClaws at ganymede.org --- Comment #9 from Paul --- *** Bug 3087 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 9 10:16:39 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 09:16:39 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3086] Custom pane integrated within Claws Mail's UI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3086 --- Comment #3 from Paul --- You can probably already achieve what you want, (depending on precisely what it is you want), using the Actions feature, scripting, and kdialog or zenity or similar. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From frankly3d at gmail.com Sun Feb 9 12:10:47 2014 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 11:10:47 +0000 Subject: [Users] Order of filters? Message-ID: <20140209111047.1eba4f40@frank01.frankly3d.home> I have created a _delete filter set up on top of filter(s) For the usual *linkedin,*badoo etc.. crap emails. How can I ensure that is run before bogofilter\spam processing as I don't want them in spam, just gone. ___ Regards Frank frankly3d.com From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 9 12:23:54 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 11:23:54 +0000 Subject: [Users] Order of filters? In-Reply-To: <20140209111047.1eba4f40@frank01.frankly3d.home> References: <20140209111047.1eba4f40@frank01.frankly3d.home> Message-ID: <20140209112354.4e41452d@thewildbeast> On Sun, 9 Feb 2014 11:10:47 +0000 Frank Murphy wrote: > I have created a _delete filter set up on top of filter(s) > For the usual *linkedin,*badoo etc.. crap emails. > > How can I ensure that is run before > bogofilter\spam processing > as I don't want them in spam, > just gone. The spam plugins always run before the filtering. If you want to change that you can run bogofilter as a filtering rule instead of using the plugin. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From frankly3d at gmail.com Sun Feb 9 12:26:07 2014 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 11:26:07 +0000 Subject: [Users] Have SPAM folder as text always Message-ID: <20140209112607.027fbbaf@frank01.frankly3d.home> I have don't use html\mixed in account prefs. But if spam is pure html it will still come in as such, and until you click on it, to see if it should be ham. you can't tell. I would rather not have to click on spam if possible, even in error. Is there an option for Spam folder as text always, no matter the source or account. ___ Regards Frank frankly3d.com From frankly3d at gmail.com Sun Feb 9 12:45:54 2014 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 11:45:54 +0000 Subject: [Users] Have SPAM folder as text always In-Reply-To: <20140209112607.027fbbaf@frank01.frankly3d.home> References: <20140209112607.027fbbaf@frank01.frankly3d.home> Message-ID: <20140209114554.7320876f@frank01.frankly3d.home> On Sun, 9 Feb 2014 11:26:07 +0000 Frank Murphy wrote: > Is there an option for Spam folder as text always, > no matter the source or account. Should have expressed it as exclude *fancy* from Spam folder. ___ Regards Frank frankly3d.com From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 9 17:28:26 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 16:28:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3086] Custom pane integrated within Claws Mail's UI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3086 --- Comment #4 from jquil at gmx.com --- Not quite. The lack of a frame integrated within the UI is quite a limitation. I am afraid that external programs such as kdialog or zenity, which you suggested, are not good enough for this purpose - the rendering would be ugly and inconvenient, with overlapping windows which will cover part of the screen. As for scripting, what I have in mind is a Python script that constantly monitors CM's events, and visually outputs some data in real time. For that we need an output pane. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 10 14:12:19 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:12:19 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 1884] don't create default drafts/sent/etc. folders if they're specified as something else In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1884 Simon Eller changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |simonell at freenet.de --- Comment #1 from Simon Eller --- Still present in Claws-Mail 3.9.3 It works for the Inbox (in some other bug reports, it seems there is also a double inbox), but I got "Sent" (instead of "sent-mail" which is assigned to be used) "Queue" and "Drafts" (instead of a local folder) For the trash it also works, but thats interesting somehow: In the Mailbox view the shown name is "Papierkorb" (german name of it), in the setting it's the IMAP-Folder "trash".+ Thanks anyway for providing this great program and support for it for so long! I love using it since years (already when it was the sylpheed and sylpheed-claws :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 10 14:24:48 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:24:48 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3067] Feature request for a Unified Folders (mainly unified inbox) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3067 --- Comment #1 from Simon Eller --- Probably related to Bug 2250, Virtual folders patch -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From jseymour at LinxNet.com Mon Feb 10 15:49:53 2014 From: jseymour at LinxNet.com (Jim Seymour) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:49:53 -0500 Subject: [Users] Previous/Next Message Buttons? Message-ID: <20140210094953.094727d6@win0091> Hi There, I've been wondering about this for some time, but kept forgetting to ask... The Message (view) Window has View -> Go to -> Previous message and Next message but there appears to be no way to add buttons for those functions either to the Message (view) Window or the main toolbar. Or am I again just missing something obvious? Thanks, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at . From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 10 16:18:43 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 15:18:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] Previous/Next Message Buttons? In-Reply-To: <20140210094953.094727d6@win0091> References: <20140210094953.094727d6@win0091> Message-ID: <20140210151843.3daddae1@thewildbeast> On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:49:53 -0500 Jim Seymour wrote: > Or am I again just missing something obvious? It seems so. They are there! with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From jseymour at LinxNet.com Mon Feb 10 16:35:09 2014 From: jseymour at LinxNet.com (Jim Seymour) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 10:35:09 -0500 Subject: [Users] Previous/Next Message Buttons? In-Reply-To: <20140210151843.3daddae1@thewildbeast> References: <20140210094953.094727d6@win0091> <20140210151843.3daddae1@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140210103509.066f3243@win0091> On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 15:18:43 +0000 Paul wrote: > On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:49:53 -0500 > Jim Seymour wrote: > > > Or am I again just missing something obvious? > > It seems so. They are there! I'm looking at "Configuration -> Preferences -> Message Window -> Event executed on click" and see Go to Previous Unread Message Go to Next Unread Message I do not see "Go to Previous Message" or "Go to Next Message." CM version too old? It's 3.8.0. Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at . From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 10 16:40:41 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 15:40:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] Previous/Next Message Buttons? In-Reply-To: <20140210103509.066f3243@win0091> References: <20140210094953.094727d6@win0091> <20140210151843.3daddae1@thewildbeast> <20140210103509.066f3243@win0091> Message-ID: <20140210154041.5c43175b@thewildbeast> On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 10:35:09 -0500 Jim Seymour wrote: > I'm looking at "Configuration -> Preferences -> Message Window -> > Event executed on click" and see > > Go to Previous Unread Message > Go to Next Unread Message > > I do not see "Go to Previous Message" or "Go to Next Message." > > CM version too old? It's 3.8.0. Oh, I see - I misunderstood you. In that case, you're missing nothing. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From jseymour at LinxNet.com Mon Feb 10 16:44:03 2014 From: jseymour at LinxNet.com (Jim Seymour) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 10:44:03 -0500 Subject: [Users] Previous/Next Message Buttons? In-Reply-To: <20140210154041.5c43175b@thewildbeast> References: <20140210094953.094727d6@win0091> <20140210151843.3daddae1@thewildbeast> <20140210103509.066f3243@win0091> <20140210154041.5c43175b@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140210104403.63049c02@win0091> On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 15:40:41 +0000 Paul wrote: > On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 10:35:09 -0500 > Jim Seymour wrote: > > > I'm looking at "Configuration -> Preferences -> Message Window -> > > Event executed on click" and see > > > > Go to Previous Unread Message > > Go to Next Unread Message > > > > I do not see "Go to Previous Message" or "Go to Next Message." > > > > CM version too old? It's 3.8.0. > > Oh, I see - I misunderstood you. In that case, you're missing nothing. Finally! :) So, next question: How do we get the desired functionality? Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at . From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 10 18:37:57 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:37:57 +0000 Subject: [Users] Have SPAM folder as text always In-Reply-To: <20140209112607.027fbbaf@frank01.frankly3d.home> References: <20140209112607.027fbbaf@frank01.frankly3d.home> Message-ID: <20140210173757.0a4fddf3@thewildbeast> On Sun, 9 Feb 2014 11:26:07 +0000 Frank Murphy wrote: > Is there an option for Spam folder as text always, > no matter the source or account. Yes. See the folder Properties, 'General' page. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From davidvj at frontier.com Mon Feb 10 20:27:21 2014 From: davidvj at frontier.com (David Vincent-Jones) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 11:27:21 -0800 Subject: [Users] GData usage Message-ID: <52F92819.3090102@frontier.com> I am on Fedora-20 and want to use Claws with GData utilizing my Google contacts. Where can I find the set-up procedure? Thank you; David From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 10 21:56:48 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 20:56:48 +0000 Subject: [Users] GData usage In-Reply-To: <52F92819.3090102@frontier.com> References: <52F92819.3090102@frontier.com> Message-ID: <20140210205648.2b111191@thewildbeast> On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 11:27:21 -0800 David Vincent-Jones wrote: > I am on Fedora-20 and want to use Claws with GData utilizing my > Google contacts. Where can I find the set-up procedure? It's like any plugin. First you load the plugin, (/Configuration/Plugins/) then you go to its preferences page to configure it, (Configuration/Preferences/Plugins/). with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 10 22:02:04 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:02:04 +0000 Subject: [Users] Have SPAM folder as text always In-Reply-To: References: <20140209112607.027fbbaf@frank01.frankly3d.home> <20140210173757.0a4fddf3@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140210210204.0fb59140@thewildbeast> Hello Bernd, Please don't sent messages to me AND the list. Just the list address is absolutely fine. On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 20:28:58 +0100 Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > Having Spam/Junk Folders beeing "first class" special Folders would > be nice (including its own Folder icon, not showing unread or html, > allowing a single click "move to spam" as well as "delete all spam" > menu entry (very similiar to Trash). I guess something of that can > be done with properties, actions and plugins - but it really should > be out of the box.... Should it be out of the box? There are spam plugins, it's not in core. Different strokes for different folks - the current implementation gives maximum flexibility to suit all (or most) tastes. A single-click "move to spam" is currently possible. Actions are not needed, but you could use filtering to deal with spam instead of a plugin. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net Mon Feb 10 22:35:45 2014 From: bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net (Bernd Eckenfels) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 22:35:45 +0100 Subject: [Users] Have SPAM folder as text always In-Reply-To: <20140210210204.0fb59140@thewildbeast> References: <20140209112607.027fbbaf@frank01.frankly3d.home> <20140210173757.0a4fddf3@thewildbeast> <20140210210204.0fb59140@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140210223545.00005466.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> Am Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:02:04 +0000 schrieb Paul : > Please don't sent messages to me AND the list. Just the list address > is absolutely fine. Sure, sory for that, it was not intentional. > Should it be out of the box? > > There are spam plugins, it's not in core. Different strokes for > different folks - the current implementation gives maximum > flexibility to suit all (or most) tastes. > > A single-click "move to spam" is currently possible. There is none in the default Windows installation. At least I did not find any. Spam Report seems only to work remotely and bsfilter requires external filter software. What would be the (Windows Binary) Plugin to get a Outlook/GoogleMail like "this is spam" button? Gruss Bernd From davidvj at frontier.com Mon Feb 10 22:42:10 2014 From: davidvj at frontier.com (David Vincent-Jones) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:42:10 -0800 Subject: [Users] GData usage In-Reply-To: <20140210205648.2b111191@thewildbeast> References: <52F92819.3090102@frontier.com> <20140210205648.2b111191@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140210134210.63fdad84@frontier.com> On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 20:56:48 +0000 Paul wrote: > On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 11:27:21 -0800 > David Vincent-Jones wrote: > > > I am on Fedora-20 and want to use Claws with GData utilizing my > > Google contacts. Where can I find the set-up procedure? > > It's like any plugin. First you load the plugin, > (/Configuration/Plugins/) then you go to its preferences page to > configure it, (Configuration/Preferences/Plugins/). > > with regards > > Paul > > Thanks Paul .... yes that works. David From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 10 23:53:34 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 22:53:34 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2769] crash when activating offline mode during IMAP remote activity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2769 --- Comment #3 from Michael Schwendt --- For this particular reproducer, taking out the call to session_destroy() from imap_disconnect_all() in imap.c makes the problem unreproducible. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net Tue Feb 11 09:30:36 2014 From: bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net (Bernd Eckenfels) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:30:36 +0100 Subject: [Users] NNTP read articles re-appear (newsgroup list not updated when "mark all read"). bug? In-Reply-To: <20140128214352.000029e5.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> References: <20140128212456.000044a0.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> <20140128214352.000029e5.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> Message-ID: <20140211093036.00001889.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> Am Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:43:52 +0100 schrieb Bernd Eckenfels : > Am Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:24:56 +0100 > schrieb Bernd Eckenfels : > > > I use the "mark all read" function and quit claws, and then I check > > newsgroup_list file: > > > > xxx 4811 4648 y > > Just a short note, I noticed that the folderlist.xml looks "better" > after shutdown: > > locked="0" forwarded="0" replied="0" total="168" marked="0" > unreadmarked="0" unread="0" new="0" mtime="0" sort_type="ascending" > sort_key="date" hidereadthreads="0" hidedelmsgs="0" hidereadmsgs="0" > threaded="1" thread_collapsed="0" collapsed="0" > path="xxx" > name="xxx" type="normal" /> Any idea how I can debug this? This is pretty annoying. I am not sure if it happens on each restart (as I restart more seldomly now), but it surely happens on the majority of restarts. I am not sure what the cause could be as I terminate claws cleanly (and it had plenty of time to sync the current state). It looks like there is no bug report about this, which makes me think it must be a local problem. But all I did was to use the installer (no update or self compiled stuff). Gruss Bernd > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users From bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net Tue Feb 11 09:39:17 2014 From: bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net (Bernd Eckenfels) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:39:17 +0100 Subject: [Users] "Go Offline" button on connection error popup In-Reply-To: <20140204085929.537378a7@thewildbeast> References: <20140204022818.00007d80.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> <20140204084236.7483f6f2@thewildbeast> <5260E8B3-0A72-4009-AF27-672F0E099801@eckenfels.net> <20140204085929.537378a7@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140211093917.000022b2.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> Am Tue, 4 Feb 2014 08:59:29 +0000 schrieb Paul : > On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 09:50:27 +0100 > Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > Yes there is a disconnect Icon or menu, but first i have to dismiss > > then the modal error dialog, Click the offline Icon and then abort > > The sync. Thats 3 Klicks instead of none (no popup) or one (go > > offline Button). > > Then my 2nd point: Network Manager support built in. Is there a build which supports network manager under Windows - and does it support windows networking at all? In my Claws installation in the About dialog I see the option Network Manager with a empty checkbox, I suspect this means the binary was built without support for it. BTW: the problem is typically worse, I have to dismiss the connect error dialogs 3 times before I can get to the disconnect icon. Bernd From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 11 10:13:32 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:13:32 +0000 Subject: [Users] "Go Offline" button on connection error popup In-Reply-To: <20140211093917.000022b2.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> References: <20140204022818.00007d80.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> <20140204084236.7483f6f2@thewildbeast> <5260E8B3-0A72-4009-AF27-672F0E099801@eckenfels.net> <20140204085929.537378a7@thewildbeast> <20140211093917.000022b2.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> Message-ID: <20140211091332.500c9e70@thewildbeast> On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:39:17 +0100 Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > Is there a build which supports network manager under Windows - and > does it support windows networking at all? In my Claws installation > in the About dialog I see the option Network Manager with a empty > checkbox, I suspect this means the binary was built without support > for it. Since you're either not using Claws or suppressing the X-Mailer header when writing to this list, I was unaware that you were talking about the windows version. I cannot comment on the windows version, so I'll now leave this to someone who can. When writing to the list it would be very helpful to not suppress the X-Mailer header or, failing that, provide the information that suppressing that header hides. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net Tue Feb 11 11:08:50 2014 From: bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net (Bernd Eckenfels) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:08:50 +0100 Subject: [Users] "Go Offline" button on connection error popup In-Reply-To: <20140211091332.500c9e70@thewildbeast> References: <20140204022818.00007d80.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> <20140204084236.7483f6f2@thewildbeast> <5260E8B3-0A72-4009-AF27-672F0E099801@eckenfels.net> <20140204085929.537378a7@thewildbeast> <20140211093917.000022b2.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> <20140211091332.500c9e70@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140211110850.00006e93.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> Am Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:13:32 +0000 schrieb Paul : > Since you're either not using Claws or suppressing the X-Mailer > header when writing to this list, I was unaware that you were talking > about the windows version. I mentioned that I use Windows in the Bug report, however I think the behaviour is the same for all platforms (beside the existence of network manager of course). Thats why I have'nt reported it against the Windows Port. (And I am not sure if the network manager solves the problem since not all errors are caused by disconected network interfaces (er recognized fast enough)). I suspect if the network manager does not offline claws before it gets on an error the popup problem is the same. From a philosophical standpoint I think modal dialogs with nothing but a dismiss function really need to be used sparingly. (granted there is a show log button, which would not be needed if the actual error message is shown in the dialog). Would it be at least possible to set a flag that 30s after I clicked "close" no other window with the same message pops up? Greetings Bernd From jseymour at LinxNet.com Tue Feb 11 13:05:38 2014 From: jseymour at LinxNet.com (Jim Seymour) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 07:05:38 -0500 Subject: [Users] Previous/Next Message Buttons? In-Reply-To: <20140210104403.63049c02@win0091> References: <20140210094953.094727d6@win0091> <20140210151843.3daddae1@thewildbeast> <20140210103509.066f3243@win0091> <20140210154041.5c43175b@thewildbeast> <20140210104403.63049c02@win0091> Message-ID: <20140211070538.297b3ac6@win0091> On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 10:44:03 -0500 Jim Seymour wrote: > On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 15:40:41 +0000 > Paul wrote: > > > On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 10:35:09 -0500 > > Jim Seymour wrote: > > > > > I'm looking at "Configuration -> Preferences -> Message Window -> > > > Event executed on click" and see > > > > > > Go to Previous Unread Message > > > Go to Next Unread Message > > > > > > I do not see "Go to Previous Message" or "Go to Next Message." > > > > > > CM version too old? It's 3.8.0. > > > > Oh, I see - I misunderstood you. In that case, you're missing > > nothing. > > Finally! :) > > So, next question: How do we get the desired functionality? So... I guess there isn't any? -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at . From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 11 14:10:00 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:10:00 +0000 Subject: [Users] Previous/Next Message Buttons? In-Reply-To: <20140211070538.297b3ac6@win0091> References: <20140210094953.094727d6@win0091> <20140210151843.3daddae1@thewildbeast> <20140210103509.066f3243@win0091> <20140210154041.5c43175b@thewildbeast> <20140210104403.63049c02@win0091> <20140211070538.297b3ac6@win0091> Message-ID: <20140211131000.7dde670f@thewildbeast> On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 07:05:38 -0500 Jim Seymour wrote: > So... I guess there isn't any? No. You'll just have to press a keyboard button rather than a mouse button. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From berndth at gmx.de Tue Feb 11 22:31:26 2014 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 22:31:26 +0100 Subject: [Users] Previous/Next Message Buttons? In-Reply-To: <20140211070538.297b3ac6@win0091> References: <20140210094953.094727d6@win0091> <20140210151843.3daddae1@thewildbeast> <20140210103509.066f3243@win0091> <20140210154041.5c43175b@thewildbeast> <20140210104403.63049c02@win0091> <20140211070538.297b3ac6@win0091> Message-ID: <20140211223126.1ed84e07@wodan> On Di, 11.02.2014 07:05, Jim Seymour wrote: >So... I guess there isn't any? It seems a bit over-engineered, but you can use the Python plugin for that. You would have to create two scripts with the content clawsmail.get_mainwindow_action_group().get_action("View/Goto/Next").activate() and clawsmail.get_mainwindow_action_group().get_action("View/Goto/Prev").activate() You can then assign toolbar buttons to those. Holger From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 12 04:58:37 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 03:58:37 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3088] New: Decrypting of S/MIME email causes client to lose sender information Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3088 Bug ID: 3088 Summary: Decrypting of S/MIME email causes client to lose sender information Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.9.3 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/Privacy Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: swillenberger at upsicorp.com Distro: Archlinux x86_64 (kernel 3.12.9-2-ARCH) Summary: Trying to reply to decrypted s/mime email messages is made difficult by the lack of original sender's information being supplied to the compose windows To: line and template fields. Test case 1: Receive smime encrypted email and decrypt. Decrypted content appears in message preview pane. Top of preview does not contain From: To: Subject: or Date: lines. When hitting reply, the address box (To:) is left blank and the message templates do not contain any information (e.g. instead of "On \n wrote:" the reply composition consists of "On \n wrote:"). Test case 2: Receive smime encrypted email and do not supply password -- decryption fails. In this case, the preview pane contains: From: To: Subject: Date: [smime.p7m application/x-pkcs-7-mime (size) ] Further details: Using the icons on the right side of the message preview pane, the top icon usually contains the full email (message/rfc822), and the icons below contain any decrypted content and then the "gear" icon for the pk7 content (signature, etc). In test case 1: the "@" icon (message/rfc822) contains just the text part + the pk7 part, the text icon contains the message/text part, and the gear contains the pk7 part. When clicking on the gear icon, a duplicate icon of the message/text appears directly above the gear icon. In text case 2: the "@" icon contains the generic headers (From: To: Subject: Date:) , a blank body, and the pk7 attachment. The only other icon is the pk7 icon. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 12 21:50:45 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 20:50:45 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3087] creating action gives me non-responsive and modal 'Action Configuration' window In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3087 --- Comment #2 from Ray Kiddy --- Thanks for the info. I found a suggestion that seems better than removing the package. It is to run: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface ubuntu-overlay-scrollbars false cheers - ray -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 12 22:04:25 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 21:04:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3087] creating action gives me non-responsive and modal 'Action Configuration' window In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3087 --- Comment #3 from Paul --- Not sure if that's better than removing it! :) Anyway, this patch has now been added to Claws: http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=patch;h=40b67269c735beb4897f9522afdf245fc0fcb581 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From anmeyer at anup.de Thu Feb 13 14:16:46 2014 From: anmeyer at anup.de (Andreas Meyer) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:16:46 +0100 Subject: [Users] Delivery Status Notification Message-ID: <20140213141646.2fa89008@itxbox.bitcorner.intern> Hello! Is it possible to request a DSN somehow with Claws-Mail? Greetings Andreas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: not available URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 13 14:26:00 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:26:00 +0000 Subject: [Users] Delivery Status Notification In-Reply-To: <20140213141646.2fa89008@itxbox.bitcorner.intern> References: <20140213141646.2fa89008@itxbox.bitcorner.intern> Message-ID: <20140213132600.7466a7d3@thewildbeast> On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:16:46 +0100 Andreas Meyer wrote: > Is it possible to request a DSN somehow with Claws-Mail? A DSN is the job of an MTA (such as sendmail) not an MUA (such as Claws). with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From rwmaillists at googlemail.com Thu Feb 13 14:38:42 2014 From: rwmaillists at googlemail.com (RW) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:38:42 +0000 Subject: [Users] Folder order has gone case-insensitive. Message-ID: <20140213133842.47b2e0cf@gumby.homeunix.com> The folder order within each account has just switched from case-sensitive to case-insensitive alphabetical order. I'm not sure whether this is a new feature or I've accidentally changed something. Can I switch it back? I have some folders capitalized so they sort to the top. I'm using claws-mail-3.9.3 on FreeBSD 10.0. From mailinglists at gusnan.se Thu Feb 13 15:46:14 2014 From: mailinglists at gusnan.se (Andreas =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=F6nnquist?=) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 15:46:14 +0100 Subject: [Users] Folder order has gone case-insensitive. In-Reply-To: <20140213133842.47b2e0cf@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20140213133842.47b2e0cf@gumby.homeunix.com> Message-ID: <20140213154614.178e27c1@debian-workstation.lan> On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:38:42 +0000, RW wrote: >The folder order within each account has just switched from >case-sensitive to case-insensitive alphabetical order. I'm not sure >whether this is a new feature or I've accidentally changed something. > >Can I switch it back? I have some folders capitalized so they sort to >the top. > >I'm using claws-mail-3.9.3 on FreeBSD 10.0. > Is this running using the same language settings? Running as I normally do on my Linux box set to Swedish language, I get the folder list sorted as AaBbCc, but if I run claws using "LANG=C claws-mail" the sorting changes to ABCabc. Can this be what you run into? best regards -- Andreas Rönnquist mailinglists at gusnan.se gusnan at gusnan.se From mailinglists at gusnan.se Thu Feb 13 15:56:38 2014 From: mailinglists at gusnan.se (Andreas =?UTF-8?B?UsO2bm5xdWlzdA==?=) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 15:56:38 +0100 Subject: [Users] Folder order has gone case-insensitive. In-Reply-To: <20140213133842.47b2e0cf@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20140213133842.47b2e0cf@gumby.homeunix.com> Message-ID: <20140213155638.2988e8be@debian-workstation.lan> On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:38:42 +0000, RW wrote: >The folder order within each account has just switched from >case-sensitive to case-insensitive alphabetical order. I'm not sure >whether this is a new feature or I've accidentally changed something. > >Can I switch it back? I have some folders capitalized so they sort to >the top. > >I'm using claws-mail-3.9.3 on FreeBSD 10.0. > In addition to my previous mail - try LC_COLLATE=C to only change the sorting order (If I understand correctly this only affects sorting order, and not language). -- Andreas Rönnquist mailinglists at gusnan.se gusnan at gusnan.se From anmeyer at anup.de Thu Feb 13 16:12:56 2014 From: anmeyer at anup.de (Andreas Meyer) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 16:12:56 +0100 Subject: [Users] Delivery Status Notification In-Reply-To: <20140213132600.7466a7d3@thewildbeast> References: <20140213141646.2fa89008@itxbox.bitcorner.intern> <20140213132600.7466a7d3@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140213161256.1b3f4bd3@itxbox.bitcorner.intern> Hello! Paul wrote: > On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:16:46 +0100 > Andreas Meyer wrote: > > > Is it possible to request a DSN somehow with Claws-Mail? > > A DSN is the job of an MTA (such as sendmail) not an MUA (such as > Claws). In Roundcube for example I can check the box to request a DSN. I am not sure how to configure the MTA to use DSN. Andreas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ricardo at mones.org Thu Feb 13 17:51:06 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:51:06 +0100 Subject: [Users] Delivery Status Notification In-Reply-To: <20140213132600.7466a7d3@thewildbeast> References: <20140213141646.2fa89008@itxbox.bitcorner.intern> <20140213132600.7466a7d3@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140213165106.GE4431@trasgu> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 01:26:00PM +0000, Paul wrote: > On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:16:46 +0100 > Andreas Meyer wrote: > > > Is it possible to request a DSN somehow with Claws-Mail? > > A DSN is the job of an MTA (such as sendmail) not an MUA (such as > Claws). With the hint from the other response and the roundcube patch¹, I believe Andreas refers to the SMTP extensions for DSN², which basically means to add some parameters to MAIL/RCPT commands³. HTH, ¹ http://trac.roundcube.net/changeset/fb40f377/github ² http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1891 ³ http://email.about.com/library/weekly/aa082597.htm -- Ricardo Mones ~ bash: ./signature: No such file or directory /bin/bash -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 13 19:20:31 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 18:20:31 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3089] New: Crash when losing network connection while fetching IMAP data Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3089 Bug ID: 3089 Summary: Crash when losing network connection while fetching IMAP data Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.9.3 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Folders/IMAP Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: kasper.peeters at phi-sci.com I have claws set to fetch new mail every minute. If I lose my network connection while it is fetching data, and then network connection then comes back up at a later stage (while claws is still in the uninterruptible state of fetching from the imap server), the program will eventually crash. Am happy to provide more detailed data like network logs or a backtrace if you let me know what you need. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From jdebert at garlic.com Thu Feb 13 20:15:52 2014 From: jdebert at garlic.com (jdebert) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 11:15:52 -0800 Subject: [Users] How to correctly render non-ASCII subject lines? Message-ID: <20140213111552.6296dda5@bakaboy> Just started using claws-mail 3.9.2. (opensuse claws-mail-3.9.2-2.4.1.i586) All non-ASCII subjects are not properly rendered and are unreadable, thus: [opensuse-ja] OpenSUSE13.1 x86_64 $B$N%$%s%9%H!<%i!<%P%0(B$B!)(B I found no option or function on claws-mail to solve this. What can be done to correctly render the subjects? Also, sometimes the Sender and From headers are the same. Thank you, jd From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 13 21:08:22 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:08:22 +0000 Subject: [Users] How to correctly render non-ASCII subject lines? In-Reply-To: <20140213111552.6296dda5@bakaboy> References: <20140213111552.6296dda5@bakaboy> Message-ID: <20140213200822.5ab1e401@thewildbeast> On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 11:15:52 -0800 jdebert wrote: > All non-ASCII subjects are not properly rendered and are unreadable, > thus: > [opensuse-ja] OpenSUSE13.1 > x86_64 $B$N%$%s%9%H!<%i!<%P%0(B$B!)(B > > I found no option or function on claws-mail to solve this. > > What can be done to correctly render the subjects? > > Also, sometimes the Sender and From headers are the same. No such problems here. I would guess either you are receiving broken messages, or your system cannot handle the encoding. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 13 21:24:28 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:24:28 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3089] Crash when losing network connection while fetching IMAP data In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3089 --- Comment #1 from kasper.peeters at phi-sci.com --- This may be related to bug 2769. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From jdebert at garlic.com Thu Feb 13 21:47:20 2014 From: jdebert at garlic.com (jdebert) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 12:47:20 -0800 Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?q?How_to_correctly_render_non-ASCII_=28=E6=97=A5?= =?utf-8?b?5pys6KqeKSBzdWJqZWN0IGxpbmVzPw==?= In-Reply-To: <20140213200822.5ab1e401@thewildbeast> References: <20140213111552.6296dda5@bakaboy> <20140213200822.5ab1e401@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140213124720.6a394624@bakaboy> On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:08:22 +0000 Paul wrote: > On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 11:15:52 -0800 > jdebert wrote: > > > All non-ASCII subjects are not properly rendered and are unreadable, > > thus: > > [opensuse-ja] OpenSUSE13.1 > > x86_64 $B$N%$%s%9%H!<%i!<%P%0(B$B!)(B > > > > I found no option or function on claws-mail to solve this. > > > > What can be done to correctly render the subjects? > > > > Also, sometimes the Sender and From headers are the same. > > No such problems here. > > I would guess either you are receiving broken messages, or your > system cannot handle the encoding. > Correctly rendered & readable in alpine, thunderbird. Not readable in mail, as expected. jd From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 13 21:57:05 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:57:05 +0000 Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?q?How_to_correctly_render_non-ASCII_=28=E6=97=A5?= =?utf-8?b?5pys6KqeKSBzdWJqZWN0IGxpbmVzPw==?= In-Reply-To: <20140213124720.6a394624@bakaboy> References: <20140213111552.6296dda5@bakaboy> <20140213200822.5ab1e401@thewildbeast> <20140213124720.6a394624@bakaboy> Message-ID: <20140213205705.4593d19b@thewildbeast> On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 12:47:20 -0800 jdebert wrote: > Correctly rendered & readable in alpine, thunderbird. > > Not readable in mail, as expected. Please forward a message yo me privately, off-list that doesn't display correctly in Claws. Ensure that you forward it using "Forward as attachment". with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 14 10:09:04 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:09:04 +0000 Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?q?How_to_correctly_render_non-ASCII_=28=E6=97=A5?= =?utf-8?b?5pys6KqeKSBzdWJqZWN0IGxpbmVzPw==?= In-Reply-To: <20140213124720.6a394624@bakaboy> References: <20140213111552.6296dda5@bakaboy> <20140213200822.5ab1e401@thewildbeast> <20140213124720.6a394624@bakaboy> Message-ID: <20140214090904.27b8f245@thewildbeast> I found the list you were talking about here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-ja/ I downloaded the 'compressed mbox' for February, and then imported it into Claws. The attached screenshot show that everything displays correctly. So the problem is local to your system. Probably your system is missing support for ISO-2022-JP. regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: suse-ja-feb.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 38792 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jdebert at garlic.com Fri Feb 14 20:48:01 2014 From: jdebert at garlic.com (jdebert) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 11:48:01 -0800 Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?q?How_to_correctly_render_non-ASCII_=28=E6=97=A5?= =?utf-8?b?5pys6KqeKSBzdWJqZWN0IGxpbmVzPw==?= In-Reply-To: <20140214090904.27b8f245@thewildbeast> References: <20140213111552.6296dda5@bakaboy> <20140213200822.5ab1e401@thewildbeast> <20140213124720.6a394624@bakaboy> <20140214090904.27b8f245@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140214114801.69bdd6f3@bakaboy> On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:09:04 +0000 Paul wrote: > I found the list you were talking about here: > http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-ja/ > > I downloaded the 'compressed mbox' for February, and then imported it > into Claws. The attached screenshot show that everything displays > correctly. So the problem is local to your system. > > Probably your system is missing support for ISO-2022-JP. > If so, isn't it odd that the message body, which is also ISO-2022-JP per the Content-Type header, is readable? The Subject lines in the compressed mbox format do indeed read correctly. However I noticed that the subject line in the archived messages fetched from the list server and the messages received from the list here are different. Only the list server's archived messages define the charset. It is not present in the messages received from the list. The text of the subject appears to have changed as well. Interestingly, when "View Source" is used for any of these messages in claws-mail, the subject and body are completely unreadable. Thank you for trying to figure this out. jd From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 14 21:48:31 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 20:48:31 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3090] New: Claws Mail crashes right after configuration Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3090 Bug ID: 3090 Summary: Claws Mail crashes right after configuration Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail (Windows) Version: 3.9.3 Hardware: PC OS: Windows 8 Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: default Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: jouvin at lal.in2p3.fr Hi, I just installed Claws Mail on my Windows 8 machine. When launching it, it asks for configuration parameters and when the configuration is complete it opens the main window and crashes immediatly. Configuration entered is lost. Anything trivial that I may have missed? Thanks in advance for your help. Michel -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 14 21:49:28 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 20:49:28 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3090] Claws Mail crashes right after configuration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3090 --- Comment #1 from jouvin at lal.in2p3.fr --- BTW, I run a 64-bit version of Windows. But the application has been installed as a 32-bit app. Michel -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 14 22:54:42 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 21:54:42 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2769] crash when activating offline mode during IMAP remote activity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2769 Michael Schwendt changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Version|3.8.1 |3.9.3 --- Comment #4 from Michael Schwendt --- Something uses freed memory structures. This is output _after_ session_destroy() in imap_disconnect_all(): ** (claws-mail:28962): WARNING **: [22:13:50] IMAP error on \x9b\x9d\x9e\xff\x9b\x9d\x9e\xff\xa1\u0011: bad state ** (claws-mail:28962): WARNING **: [22:13:50] IMAP4 connection broken Segmentation fault (core dumped) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From jdebert at garlic.com Fri Feb 14 22:52:21 2014 From: jdebert at garlic.com (jdebert) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 13:52:21 -0800 Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?q?How_to_correctly_render_non-ASCII_=28=E6=97=A5?= =?utf-8?b?5pys6KqeKSBzdWJqZWN0IGxpbmVzPw==?= In-Reply-To: <20140214090904.27b8f245@thewildbeast> References: <20140213111552.6296dda5@bakaboy> <20140213200822.5ab1e401@thewildbeast> <20140213124720.6a394624@bakaboy> <20140214090904.27b8f245@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140214135221.6779aebb@bakaboy> By the way, it appears that thunderbird is using some kind of workaround or guessing technique to try to correctly render non-ASCII symbols in the Subject header, and, IIRC, the From, Sender, To, etc headers. Perhaps it's using Content-Type to guess the Subject charset. Not too sure about alpine but ISTR that the authors had mentioned work on such techniques as well. mail/mailx is not consistently rendering non-ASCII subjects unless it's UTF-8. Doubt that it uses any techniques. All this is complicating the problem and the finding of a good solution. Thanks again & sorry for the trouble. jd From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Fri Feb 14 23:08:07 2014 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 19:08:07 -0300 Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?q?How_to_correctly_render_non-ASCII_=28=E6=97=A5?= =?utf-8?b?5pys6KqeKSBzdWJqZWN0IGxpbmVzPw==?= In-Reply-To: <20140214135221.6779aebb@bakaboy> References: <20140213111552.6296dda5@bakaboy> <20140213200822.5ab1e401@thewildbeast> <20140213124720.6a394624@bakaboy> <20140214090904.27b8f245@thewildbeast> <20140214135221.6779aebb@bakaboy> Message-ID: <20140214190807.340dc771@ron.cerrocora.org> On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 13:52:21 -0800 jdebert wrote: > By the way, it appears that thunderbird is using some kind of > workaround or guessing technique to try to correctly render non-ASCII > symbols in the Subject header, and, IIRC, the From, Sender, To, etc > headers. Perhaps it's using Content-Type to guess the Subject charset. From another source, that uses passwords containing non-ASCII symbols to protect documents, we are warned NOT to use Thunderbird for this reason. Cheers, Ron. -- Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. -- Albert Einstein -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 15 09:18:06 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 08:18:06 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3083] Pressing the Enter key on a message activates the disabled Message View In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3083 alb348 at gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hardware|PC |All OS|Windows 8 |All --- Comment #1 from alb348 at gmail.com --- I was surpised that this bug was changed from 'bug' to 'enhancement'. I am not familiar with your classification scheme, but I wish to point out that this is indeed a bug: if I turn off the Message View, and it turns itself back on, as it currently happes, there is no doubt that this is a bug. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 15 09:37:58 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 08:37:58 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3083] Pressing the Enter key on a message activates the disabled Message View In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3083 --- Comment #2 from Paul --- The point is that it doesn't turn itself back on - pressing the Enter key opens the message view. What you ask for is a different behaviour when pressing the Enter key, you don't want pressing the Enter key to open the message view, you want it to do what double-clicking the message and '/View/Open in new window' does. So that's a feature request. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 15 12:47:23 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 11:47:23 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3083] Pressing the Enter key on a message activates the disabled Message View In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3083 --- Comment #3 from alb348 at gmail.com --- I see. Is there a way to change the behaviour of the Enter key? I am not requesting that it should be changed by default. I would be equally fine if I could change it manually, as long as the issue is solved. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From anmeyer at anup.de Sat Feb 15 18:02:49 2014 From: anmeyer at anup.de (Andreas Meyer) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 18:02:49 +0100 Subject: [Users] Outlook Express and PGP Message-ID: <20140215180249.67987e44@itxbox.bitcorner.intern> Hello! An email-partner reports, that email from me es empty, just this few lines are shown: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Meyer" To: "My Partner" Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 8:08 PM Subject: Re: Leere Seiten Since a few days I sign my email with PGP/Mime. Could this be the reason for the empty messages? Is this a known problem with Outlook? Greetings Andreas -- Mein öffentlicher PGP/GPG-key unter: https://www.anup.de/keys/anmeyer at anup.de.asc -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The general recommendation if people are forced to email others which uses Outlook of older date is to either use PGP/Inline or dont signed the email at all. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: It doesn't matter whether you win or lose -- until you lose. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From anmeyer at anup.de Sat Feb 15 19:54:28 2014 From: anmeyer at anup.de (Andreas Meyer) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 19:54:28 +0100 Subject: [Users] Outlook Express and PGP In-Reply-To: <20140215182837.713bc6be@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20140215180249.67987e44@itxbox.bitcorner.intern> <20140215182837.713bc6be@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20140215195428.4ddffacd@itxbox.bitcorner.intern> Hello! Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > An email-partner reports, that email from me es empty, just this > > few lines are shown: > > > Depending on version of Outlook PGP/Mime is not supported. The general > recommendation if people are forced to email others which uses Outlook > of older date is to either use PGP/Inline or dont signed the email at > all. My Partner just reportet that Livemail in Windows 7 gets empty messages too. Is this possible? 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Lowbrow users are glad the thing works at all. What makes me wonder, my partner just reportet that with livemail email is empty too. Andreas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mir at miras.org Sat Feb 15 20:11:48 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 20:11:48 +0100 Subject: [Users] Outlook Express and PGP In-Reply-To: <20140215195428.4ddffacd@itxbox.bitcorner.intern> References: <20140215180249.67987e44@itxbox.bitcorner.intern> <20140215182837.713bc6be@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140215195428.4ddffacd@itxbox.bitcorner.intern> Message-ID: <20140215201148.55aaf328@sleipner.datanom.net> On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 19:54:28 +0100 Andreas Meyer wrote: > > My Partner just reportet that Livemail in Windows 7 gets empty messages > too. Is this possible? > Livemail is the successor of outlook express? Outlook express did not support PGP/Mime so maybe this is stil missing in Livemail? I no it works in Outlook >= 2007. It does not work in Outlook < 2007. It does not work in any version of Outlook express and perhaps not in livemail as well. It also works in Outlook Web Access >= 2007. I have no idea if it works in Outlook Web Access < 2007. See attached screenshot. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: When choosing between two evils, I always like to take the one I've never tried before. -- Mae West, "Klondike Annie" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 16 00:24:41 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 23:24:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3091] New: Request: Add a "View message in new window" command in the View menu Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3091 Bug ID: 3091 Summary: Request: Add a "View message in new window" command in the View menu Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.9.3 Hardware: All OS: All Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: UI/Message View Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: alb348 at gmail.com (this feature request is a spin-off of bug/enhancement 3083) I am requesting a new command to be added to the View menu: "View message in new window", which should produce the same effect as double clicking on the message with the mouse. This enhancement should allow the user to open a message in a new window, without using the mouse. This result will be achieved by assigning a keybinding (Enter or any other key) to the proposed command in the View menu. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 16 01:20:50 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 00:20:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3091] Request: Add a "View message in new window" command in the View menu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3091 --- Comment #1 from Pierre Fortin --- Just played with this idea... if I understand your requirement correctly, try this... Change these key bindings: View->Open in new window _to_ Alt+Up File->Close _to_ Alt+Down Works for me whether message pane is open or closed... I like it... :) Claws rocks!! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 16 01:56:09 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 00:56:09 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3091] Request: Add a "View message in new window" command in the View menu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3091 --- Comment #2 from Pierre Fortin --- A minor point if you use Focus follows mouse -- leave the mouse where the main and message windows overlap, and you can go through messages quickly with just up/down and Alt+up/down. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 16 06:46:12 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 05:46:12 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3091] Request: Add a "View message in new window" command in the View menu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3091 --- Comment #3 from alb348 at gmail.com --- Wll, this is embarrassing for me. The command that I requested already existed. I had not looked attentively enough. Sorry for the confusion. I have tried to define its keyninding to Enter, but I was note able to (although I was able to bind it to ctrl+Enter and Alt+Enter). Does anyone know how to bind it to Enter? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 16 12:22:12 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 11:22:12 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3091] Request: Add a "View message in new window" command in the View menu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3091 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From senex at drofle.co.uk Sun Feb 16 21:16:50 2014 From: senex at drofle.co.uk (senex at drofle.co.uk) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 20:16:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] Just Joined today Message-ID: <53011CB2.8050507@drofle.co.uk> Just checking to see if this works. From senex at drofle.co.uk Sun Feb 16 21:23:47 2014 From: senex at drofle.co.uk (senex at drofle.co.uk) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 20:23:47 +0000 Subject: [Users] New Member Message-ID: <53011E53.20008@drofle.co.uk> I use Linux, and have done so for many years. A long time ago I tried Sylpheed and later Claws as mail clients. At that time they were not so sophisticated as they are now. So for some time I have stuck with Thunderbird. I think that it has become a bit too bloated for me recently and I understand it is no longer being fully maintained any more. So I am back looking at claws mail and I am quite surprised at how much it has changed over the years. I am now seriously considering moving over to claws entirely, so I have been researching it via the internet. There will be a new LTS version of Xubuntu out soon, so I am trying to learn about the up to date version of claws mail meanwhile. Mostly I have got on fine, but there is one problem which I have found. I have tried to find the answer for myself but no luck so far. I go Configuration --> Preferences --> Message View --> External Programs. The web browser choice is greyed out while 'Use system defaults when possible' is on. When I deselect that choice then 'firefox '%s' is now available. However when I try to use it, by clicking on a URL in a message, nothing happens. It does work in TBird. If anyone can point me in the right direction I would be very grateful, Thanks Neil From dan_arico at aricosystems.com Sun Feb 16 21:46:43 2014 From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:46:43 -0500 Subject: [Users] New Member In-Reply-To: <53011E53.20008@drofle.co.uk> References: <53011E53.20008@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <20140216154643.327f0878.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 20:23:47 +0000 senex at drofle.co.uk wrote: > I use Linux, and have done so for many years. A long time ago I tried > Sylpheed and later Claws as mail clients. At that time they were not > so sophisticated as they are now. > > So for some time I have stuck with Thunderbird. I think that it has > become a bit too bloated for me recently and I understand it is no > longer being fully maintained any more. > > So I am back looking at claws mail and I am quite surprised at how > much it has changed over the years. I am now seriously considering > moving over to claws entirely, so I have been researching it via the > internet. > > There will be a new LTS version of Xubuntu out soon, so I am trying to > learn about the up to date version of claws mail meanwhile. Mostly I > have got on fine, but there is one problem which I have found. I have > tried to find the answer for myself but no luck so far. > > I go Configuration --> Preferences --> Message View --> External > Programs. The web browser choice is greyed out while 'Use system > defaults when possible' is on. When I deselect that choice then > 'firefox '%s' is now available. However when I try to use it, by > clicking on a URL in a message, nothing happens. It does work in > TBird. > > If anyone can point me in the right direction I would be very > grateful, > > Thanks > > Neil On my system, I left "Use system default" on. Since Firefox is my default, it works fine. Dan Arico -- One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them, One OS to bring them all, and in the Darkness bind them, In the land of Redmond, where the Sales Reps lie. From senex at drofle.co.uk Sun Feb 16 21:58:43 2014 From: senex at drofle.co.uk (Neil) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 20:58:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] New Member In-Reply-To: <20140216154643.327f0878.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> References: <53011E53.20008@drofle.co.uk> <20140216154643.327f0878.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> Message-ID: <20140216205843.58b7dd9f@Rufus> On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:46:43 -0500 Dan Arico wrote: > > > > I go Configuration --> Preferences --> Message View --> External > > Programs. The web browser choice is greyed out while 'Use system > > defaults when possible' is on. When I deselect that choice then > > 'firefox '%s' is now available. However when I try to use it, by > > clicking on a URL in a message, nothing happens. It does work in > > TBird. > > > > If anyone can point me in the right direction I would be very > > grateful, > > > > Thanks > > > > Neil > > On my system, I left "Use system default" on. Since Firefox is my > default, it works fine. > > Dan Arico > Thanks for the quick answer. More checking and I see that claws does not work the same way as TB. In Thunderbird, if I want to open a URL that is in a message I just double click on it. In claws a double click does nothing. However I have now found that if I right click on the URL and choose 'open in browser' then it will open Firefox for me as expected. Oddly I find that this works whether I have the 'Use system defaults if possible' checked or not. Just a different way of working, Thanks Neil From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 17 12:48:47 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 11:48:47 +0000 Subject: [Users] New Member In-Reply-To: <20140216205843.58b7dd9f@Rufus> References: <53011E53.20008@drofle.co.uk> <20140216154643.327f0878.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20140216205843.58b7dd9f@Rufus> Message-ID: <20140217114847.2c71cf9c@thewildbeast> On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 20:58:43 +0000 Neil wrote: > Thanks for the quick answer. More checking and I see that claws does > not work the same way as TB. In Thunderbird, if I want to open a URL > that is in a message I just double click on it. In claws a double > click does nothing. In Claws you just need a single click. > However I have now found that if I right click on the URL and choose > 'open in browser' then it will open Firefox for me as expected. > Oddly I find that this works whether I have the 'Use system > defaults if possible' checked or not. To discover the problem, start Claws from a terminal with `claws-mail --debug` and look at the debug output when you click a link. Paste the output in a reply to this message if you're unsure what it's telling you. BTW, the above is relating to a plain text message, (such as this one), rather than an HTML part of a message using the Fancy plugin. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 17 13:12:28 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:12:28 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3092] New: Filtering account settings not honored on manual run Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3092 Bug ID: 3092 Summary: Filtering account settings not honored on manual run Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.8.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: major Priority: P3 Component: Filtering Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: tom at tjnii.com I have claws mail configured for two imap accounts, with filter rules for each. Each filter rule has the associated account set. On ingress filtering these settings are honored, however on manual filtering they are not. If I select 'Skip these rules' the rules are skipped. If I select 'Apply these rules regardless of account' all rules are run. However, if I select 'Apply these rules if they apply to the current account' the account setting is not honored, and Claws-mail filters messages that should not be filtered. I enabled the filtering log and the current account seems to be set wrong when the filters are run: > rule is account-based [id=2, name=''], current account [id=2, name=''] Where the account reported is not the account I'm manually filtering against. I'm running version 3.8.1 from Debian stable. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 17 13:52:25 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:52:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3092] Filtering account settings not honored on manual run In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3092 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Paul --- The "current account" is the one currently selected in the account selector at the lower right corner. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 17 13:57:50 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:57:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3092] Filtering account settings not honored on manual run In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3092 --- Comment #2 from Tom Noonan II --- Well, that's not the behavior I expected at all. Can we change this to a feature request then to have an option in the manual filtering options page to use the account the selected folder is in? I think that would be an option useful to many users. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 17 14:01:15 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:01:15 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3092] Filtering account settings not honored on manual run In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3092 --- Comment #3 from Paul --- That wouldn't work for POP accounts and Local accounts, as they are not directly related to a mailbox in the folder tree. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From senex at drofle.co.uk Mon Feb 17 14:10:26 2014 From: senex at drofle.co.uk (Neil) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:10:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] New Member In-Reply-To: <20140217114847.2c71cf9c@thewildbeast> References: <53011E53.20008@drofle.co.uk> <20140216154643.327f0878.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20140216205843.58b7dd9f@Rufus> <20140217114847.2c71cf9c@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140217131026.5442f215@Rufus> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 11:48:47 +0000 Paul wrote: > > To discover the problem, start Claws from a terminal with > `claws-mail --debug` and look at the debug output when you click a > link. Paste the output in a reply to this message if you're unsure > what it's telling you. > > BTW, the above is relating to a plain text message, (such as this > one), rather than an HTML part of a message using the Fancy plugin. > > with regards > > Paul > > Thanks for the suggestion, will try it out. The messages I was testing were indeed HTML using the fancy plugin. One message was from Amazon, trying to sell me something as usual. It showed several books, including a picture of the covers. Clicking once did nothing, double clicking did nothing, right clicking and choosing 'Open in browser' did just that. I am happy to use that since it works. Regards Neil From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 17 14:21:08 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:21:08 +0000 Subject: [Users] New Member In-Reply-To: <20140217131026.5442f215@Rufus> References: <53011E53.20008@drofle.co.uk> <20140216154643.327f0878.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20140216205843.58b7dd9f@Rufus> <20140217114847.2c71cf9c@thewildbeast> <20140217131026.5442f215@Rufus> Message-ID: <20140217132108.1b53b668@thewildbeast> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:10:26 +0000 Neil wrote: > Thanks for the suggestion, will try it out. The messages I was > testing were indeed HTML using the fancy plugin. One message was > from Amazon, trying to sell me something as usual. It showed > several books, including a picture of the covers. In that case it didn't work because you had the option 'Enable remote content' switched off. If you have this option switched on then the link would load right there in the Claws window. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From senex at drofle.co.uk Mon Feb 17 14:37:46 2014 From: senex at drofle.co.uk (Neil) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:37:46 +0000 Subject: [Users] New Member In-Reply-To: <20140217132108.1b53b668@thewildbeast> References: <53011E53.20008@drofle.co.uk> <20140216154643.327f0878.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20140216205843.58b7dd9f@Rufus> <20140217114847.2c71cf9c@thewildbeast> <20140217131026.5442f215@Rufus> <20140217132108.1b53b668@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140217133746.7b2335ed@Rufus> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:21:08 +0000 Paul wrote: > On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:10:26 +0000 > Neil wrote: > > > Thanks for the suggestion, will try it out. The messages I was > > testing were indeed HTML using the fancy plugin. One message was > > from Amazon, trying to sell me something as usual. It showed > > several books, including a picture of the covers. > > In that case it didn't work because you had the option 'Enable remote > content' switched off. If you have this option switched on then the > link would load right there in the Claws window. > > with regards > > Paul > > I have searched for that option, but can't find it. Is is in Preferences? Sorry to be so thick, I am still relearning Claws. Neil From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 17 14:47:05 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:47:05 +0000 Subject: [Users] New Member In-Reply-To: <20140217133746.7b2335ed@Rufus> References: <53011E53.20008@drofle.co.uk> <20140216154643.327f0878.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20140216205843.58b7dd9f@Rufus> <20140217114847.2c71cf9c@thewildbeast> <20140217131026.5442f215@Rufus> <20140217132108.1b53b668@thewildbeast> <20140217133746.7b2335ed@Rufus> Message-ID: <20140217134705.7fa91f8e@thewildbeast> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:37:46 +0000 Neil wrote: > I have searched for that option, but can't find it. Is is in > Preferences? Sorry to be so thick, I am still relearning Claws. Please upgrade! https://launchpad.net/~claws-mail/+archive/ppa 3.8.0 is over 2 years old! with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From senex at drofle.co.uk Mon Feb 17 15:33:20 2014 From: senex at drofle.co.uk (Neil) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 14:33:20 +0000 Subject: [Users] New Member In-Reply-To: <20140217134705.7fa91f8e@thewildbeast> References: <53011E53.20008@drofle.co.uk> <20140216154643.327f0878.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20140216205843.58b7dd9f@Rufus> <20140217114847.2c71cf9c@thewildbeast> <20140217131026.5442f215@Rufus> <20140217132108.1b53b668@thewildbeast> <20140217133746.7b2335ed@Rufus> <20140217134705.7fa91f8e@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140217143320.4acacf27@Rufus> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:47:05 +0000 Paul wrote: > On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:37:46 +0000 > Neil wrote: > > > I have searched for that option, but can't find it. Is is in > > Preferences? Sorry to be so thick, I am still relearning Claws. > > Please upgrade! https://launchpad.net/~claws-mail/+archive/ppa > > 3.8.0 is over 2 years old! > > with regards > > Paul > > OK, I have upgraded. I have also found that option in the plugin and it now works as expected. Thanks. As mentioned before, in April the next LTS version of Ubuntu should be out so I will be installing that from scratch, I never use upgrades. That should automatically keep me up to date with Claws. regards Neil From todfod at gmail.com Tue Feb 18 00:14:20 2014 From: todfod at gmail.com (Mr X) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:14:20 -0800 Subject: [Users] Font selection ... Message-ID: Hi, Installed Fedora 19. Installed all updates. Installed claws, 3.9.3. All well, go to pref -> display -> Fonts.... slelect message... however, a very limited number of fonts show up. Not all the fonts installed on the system show up in the list. xfontsel shows many fonts are installed? How do I get it to find the all the fonts on my system? thanks M -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bugreporter at abwesend.de Tue Feb 18 00:51:38 2014 From: bugreporter at abwesend.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 00:51:38 +0100 Subject: [Users] Font selection ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140218005138.66142877@noname> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:14:20 -0800, Mr X wrote: > Hi, > > Installed Fedora 19. Which spin? Which DE? > Installed all updates. Installed claws, 3.9.3. All > well, go to pref -> display -> Fonts.... slelect message... however, a very > limited number of fonts show up. "a very limited number" is very vague. Are there still too many to count them? > Not all the fonts installed on the system > show up in the list. Which are installed but missing in the list? How does the list compare with output of "fc-list"? > xfontsel shows many fonts are installed? How do I get > it to find the all the fonts on my system? > > thanks > M From G.S.J.Hywel at swansea.ac.uk Tue Feb 18 13:05:03 2014 From: G.S.J.Hywel at swansea.ac.uk (Geraint Hywel) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:05:03 +0000 Subject: [Users] How to specify external editor Message-ID: <20140218120503.3d2626d9@acu-gsjhywel-fc> Hi All. I'm running Claws 3.9.3 on a Fedora 19/Gnome 3 box. I'd like to try using gvim as an external editor. I have installed the package "vim-X11", and it runs just fine. In Claws, when I edit a message using the external editor (using the Ctrl+Shft+X keyboard shortcut), it opens in gedit. I can't see anywhere where I can specify which editor is the default. I have set vim to be the default editor by: * right clicking on a .txt file; * choosing "Properties"; * clicking the "Open With" tab; * selecting "Vi iMproved"; * clicking "Set as default"; * clicking "Close" Now, when I double click on any .txt file, it opens in gvim, not gedit as previously. However, even after restarting Claws, Ctrl+Shft+X still opens gedit. I just tried logging out and back in to Gnome, and it still opens in gedit. Is it possible to specify which external editor should be used? Regards -- Geraint Hywel http://about.me/geraint.hywel Uwch Ddatblygwr Y We Gwasanaethau Gwybodaeth a Systemau Prifysgol Abertawe Parc Singleton Abertawe SA2 8PP 01792 543 589 Senior Web Developer Information Services and Systems Swansea University Singleton Park Swansea SA2 8PP From G.S.J.Hywel at swansea.ac.uk Tue Feb 18 13:07:18 2014 From: G.S.J.Hywel at swansea.ac.uk (Geraint Hywel) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:07:18 +0000 Subject: [Users] How to specify external editor In-Reply-To: <20140218120503.3d2626d9@acu-gsjhywel-fc> References: <20140218120503.3d2626d9@acu-gsjhywel-fc> Message-ID: <20140218120718.3b7b8075@acu-gsjhywel-fc> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:05:03 +0000 Geraint Hywel wrote: > I have set vim to be the default editor by: That should probably have read "I have set vim to be the default editor *for Gnome* by:" Regards -- Geraint Hywel http://about.me/geraint.hywel Uwch Ddatblygwr Y We Gwasanaethau Gwybodaeth a Systemau Prifysgol Abertawe Parc Singleton Abertawe SA2 8PP 01792 543 589 Senior Web Developer Information Services and Systems Swansea University Singleton Park Swansea SA2 8PP From bugreporter at abwesend.de Tue Feb 18 13:13:46 2014 From: bugreporter at abwesend.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:13:46 +0100 Subject: [Users] How to specify external editor In-Reply-To: <20140218120503.3d2626d9@acu-gsjhywel-fc> References: <20140218120503.3d2626d9@acu-gsjhywel-fc> Message-ID: <20140218131346.228ef29f@noname> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:05:03 +0000, Geraint Hywel wrote: > Hi All. > > I'm running Claws 3.9.3 on a Fedora 19/Gnome 3 box. > > I'd like to try using gvim as an external editor. > > I have installed the package "vim-X11", and it runs just fine. > > In Claws, when I edit a message using the external editor (using the > Ctrl+Shft+X keyboard shortcut), it opens in gedit. > > I can't see anywhere where I can specify which editor is the default. Preferences > Message View > External Programs Plus, usually one does "export EDITOR=yourfavouriteeditor" in ~/.bash_profile to enable the custom editor for various other tools. From G.S.J.Hywel at swansea.ac.uk Tue Feb 18 13:19:36 2014 From: G.S.J.Hywel at swansea.ac.uk (Geraint Hywel) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:19:36 +0000 Subject: [Users] How to specify external editor In-Reply-To: <20140218131346.228ef29f@noname> References: <20140218120503.3d2626d9@acu-gsjhywel-fc> <20140218131346.228ef29f@noname> Message-ID: <20140218121936.2dcfc9e6@acu-gsjhywel-fc> Hi Michael. On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:13:46 +0100 Michael Schwendt wrote: > Preferences > Message View > External Programs That's it - thank you so much. > Plus, usually one does "export EDITOR=yourfavouriteeditor" in > ~/.bash_profile to enable the custom editor for various other tools. Fair point. ~/.bash_profile updated accordingly. Thank you again. Best wishes -- Geraint Hywel http://about.me/geraint.hywel Uwch Ddatblygwr Y We Gwasanaethau Gwybodaeth a Systemau Prifysgol Abertawe Parc Singleton Abertawe SA2 8PP 01792 543 589 Senior Web Developer Information Services and Systems Swansea University Singleton Park Swansea SA2 8PP From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 18 13:58:43 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:58:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3093] New: SIGSEGV imap_threaded_noop at imap-thread.c:1099 Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3093 Bug ID: 3093 Summary: SIGSEGV imap_threaded_noop at imap-thread.c:1099 Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.9.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Folders/IMAP Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: kardan at riseup.net Claws Mail version 3.9.0cvs128 ** (claws-mail:28475): WARNING **: [10:30:48] IMAP4 connection broken Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. imap_threaded_noop (folder=0xf05e00, p_exists=p_exists at entry=0x7fffffffde58, p_recent=p_recent at entry=0x7fffffffde5c, p_expunge=p_expunge at entry=0x7fffffffde60, p_unseen=p_unseen at entry=0x7fffffffde64, p_uidnext=p_uidnext at entry=0x7fffffffde68, p_uidval=p_uidval at entry=0x7fffffffde6c) at imap-thread.c:1099 1099 * p_exists = imap->imap_selection_info->sel_exists; sr/etpan/imap-thread.c: imap = get_imap(folder); param.imap = imap; threaded_run(folder, ¶m, &result, noop_run); if (result.error == 0 && imap && imap->imap_selection_info != NULL) { * p_exists = imap->imap_selection_info->sel_exists; * p_recent = imap->imap_selection_info->sel_recent; * p_unseen = imap->imap_selection_info->sel_unseen; * p_uidnext = imap->imap_selection_info->sel_uidnext; * p_uidval = imap->imap_selection_info->sel_uidvalidity; (gdb) p *p_exists $6 = 35801088 (gdb) p *p_expunge $7 = 114882944 (gdb) p *p_unseen $8 = 0 (gdb) p *p_uidval $9 = 32767 (gdb) p *p_uidnext $10 = 4112902592 (gdb) p *p_recent $11 = 0 4004 static gint imap_cmd_noop(IMAPSession *session) 4005 { 4006 int r; 4007 unsigned int exists, recent, expunge, unseen, uidnext, uidval; 4008 4009 r = imap_threaded_noop(session->folder, &exists, &recent, &expunge, &unseen, &uidnext, &uidval); 4010 if (r != MAILIMAP_NO_ERROR) { 4011 imap_handle_error(SESSION(session), NULL, r); 4012 debug_print("noop err %d\n", r); 4013 return r; #0 imap_threaded_noop (folder=0xf05e00, p_exists=p_exists at entry=0x7fffffffde58, p_recent=p_recent at entry=0x7fffffffde5c, p_expunge=p_expunge at entry=0x7fffffffde60, p_unseen=p_unseen at entry=0x7fffffffde64, p_uidnext=p_uidnext at entry=0x7fffffffde68, p_uidval=p_uidval at entry=0x7fffffffde6c) at imap-thread.c:1099 #1 0x00000000004a5cd7 in imap_cmd_noop (session=session at entry=0x2224800) at imap.c:4009 #2 0x00000000004a623d in imap_ping (data=0x2224800) at imap.c:559 #3 imap_ping (data=0x2224800, data at entry=) at imap.c:547 #4 0x00007ffff4fb2eeb in g_timeout_dispatch (source=source at entry=0x6d8f980, callback=, user_data=) at /tmp/buildd/glib2.0-2.33.12+really2.32.4/./glib/gmain.c:3882 #5 0x00007ffff4fb2355 in g_main_dispatch (context=0xbf6a60) at /tmp/buildd/glib2.0-2.33.12+really2.32.4/./glib/gmain.c:2539 #6 g_main_context_dispatch (context=context at entry=0xbf6a60) at /tmp/buildd/glib2.0-2.33.12+really2.32.4/./glib/gmain.c:3075 #7 0x00007ffff4fb2688 in g_main_context_iterate (context=0xbf6a60, block=block at entry=1, dispatch=dispatch at entry=1, self=) at /tmp/buildd/glib2.0-2.33.12+really2.32.4/./glib/gmain.c:3146 #8 0x00007ffff4fb2a82 in g_main_loop_run (loop=0xef8840) at /tmp/buildd/glib2.0-2.33.12+really2.32.4/./glib/gmain.c:3340 #9 0x00007ffff6e89797 in gtk_main () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #10 0x000000000044e8cb in main (argc=1, argv=0x7fffffffe438) at main.c:1719 (gdb) p *session [50/1959] $2 = {session = {type = SESSION_IMAP, sock = 0x0, server = 0x1bedf00 "mail.~.net", port = 993, nonblocking = 1, state = SESSION_DISCONNECTED, last_access_time = 1392715665, tv_prev = {tv_sec = 1392568462, tv_usec = 11516}, conn_id = 0, io_tag = 0, read_buf = '\000' , read_buf_p = 0x2224848 "", read_buf_len = 0, read_msg_buf = 0x767dc80, read_data_buf = 0x328e6a0, read_data_terminator = 0x0, write_buf = 0x0, write_buf_p = 0x0, write_buf_len = 0, write_data = 0x0, write_data_p = 0x0, write_data_len = 0, timeout_tag = 0, timeout_interval = 0, data = 0x0, recv_msg = 0, send_data_finished = 0, recv_data_finished = 0, destroy = 0x4a4ff0 , recv_msg_notify = 0, recv_data_progressive_notify = 0, recv_data_notify = 0, send_data_progressive_notify = 0, send_data_notify = 0, recv_msg_notify_data = 0x0, recv_data_progressive_notify_data = 0x0, recv_data_notify_data = 0x0, send_data_progressive_notify_data = 0x0, send_data_notify_data = 0x0, account = 0xef3ab0, is_smtp = 0, ping_tag = 1643047, ssl_type = SSL_NONE}, authenticated = 1, capability = 0x325b670, uidplus = 0, mbox = 0x2b3f3f0 "INBOX", cmd_count = 0, folder_content_changed = 1, exists = 159, recent = 0, expunge = 0, unseen = 0, uid_validity = 1328764410, uid_next = 72102, folder = 0xf05e00, busy = 0, cancelled = 0, sens_update_block = 0} (gdb) $3 = {session = {type = SESSION_IMAP, sock = 0x0, server = 0x1bedf00 "mail.~.net", port = 993, nonblocking = 1, state = SESSION_DISCONNECTED, last_access_time = 1392715665, tv_prev = {tv_sec = 1392568462, tv_usec = 11516}, conn_id = 0, io_tag = 0, read_buf = '\000' , read_buf_p = 0x2224848 "", read_buf_len = 0, read_msg_buf = 0x767dc80, read_data_buf = 0x328e6a0, read_data_terminator = 0x0, write_buf = 0x0, write_buf_p = 0x0, write_buf_len = 0, write_data = 0x0, write_data_p = 0x0, write_data_len = 0, timeout_tag = 0, timeout_interval = 0, data = 0x0, recv_msg = 0, send_data_finished = 0, recv_data_finished = 0, destroy = 0x4a4ff0 , recv_msg_notify = 0, recv_data_progressive_notify = 0, recv_data_notify = 0, send_data_progressive_notify = 0, send_data_notify = 0, recv_msg_notify_data = 0x0, recv_data_progressive_notify_data = 0x0, recv_data_notify_data = 0x0, send_data_progressive_notify_data = 0x0, send_data_notify_data = 0x0, account = 0xef3ab0, is_smtp = 0, ping_tag = 1643047, ssl_type = SSL_NONE}, authenticated = 1, capability = 0x325b670, uidplus = 0, mbox = 0x2b3f3f0 "INBOX", cmd_count = 0, folder_content_changed = 1, exists = 159, recent = 0, expunge = 0, unseen = 0, uid_validity = 1328764410, uid_next = 72102, folder = 0xf05e00, busy = 0, cancelled = 0, sens_update_block = 0} -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 18 14:03:24 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:03:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3093] SIGSEGV imap_threaded_noop at imap-thread.c:1099 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3093 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME --- Comment #1 from Paul --- please upgrade to the latest release before reporting bugs. if you've upgraded and can reproduce this crash, then re-open this item and explain the steps needed to reproduce it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 18 14:49:05 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:49:05 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3094] New: OK or Yes to create new directory? Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3094 Bug ID: 3094 Summary: OK or Yes to create new directory? Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.9.3 Hardware: All OS: All Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Translations Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: khazarian at fastmail.in String: HTML Output Directory '%s'\n does not exist. OK to create new directory? Buttons: Yes/No. Please rename string. Please see suggestions below: HTML Output Directory '%s'\n does not exist. Press Yes to create new directory. HTML Output Directory '%s'\n does not exist. Create new directory? HTML Output Directory '%s'\n does not exist. Do you want to create new directory? HTML Output Directory '%s'\n does not exist. Would you like to create new directory? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 18 14:55:55 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:55:55 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3095] New: [RTL] Use for HTML exported address book Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3095 Bug ID: 3095 Summary: [RTL] Use for HTML exported address book Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.9.3 Hardware: All OS: All Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Other Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: khazarian at fastmail.in For RTL (Arabic, Farsi, Hebrew, Urdu) locales, please replace with in order to get a right-to-left table. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 18 15:50:19 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 14:50:19 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3094] OK or Yes to create new directory? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3094 Ricardo Mones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|normal |trivial --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones --- I don't think is a mistake to answer yes or no to a “(It is) OK to do something?” question. Said that, English is not my native language and I may be wrong. Anyway since the string has other problems lets use this bug for improving it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 18 18:29:28 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:29:28 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3093] SIGSEGV imap_threaded_noop at imap-thread.c:1099 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3093 --- Comment #2 from Michael Schwendt --- Several users have reported it for 3.9.3 here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1001508 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 18 18:31:11 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:31:11 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3093] SIGSEGV imap_threaded_noop at imap-thread.c:1099 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3093 --- Comment #3 from Michael Schwendt --- Oh, and it's a dupe of bug 2926 in this tracker. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From bbowler at bigelow.org Tue Feb 18 21:15:28 2014 From: bbowler at bigelow.org (Bruce Bowler) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:15:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Users] go to first unread message but don't open it. Message-ID: Strange request that I can't figure out how (or why, for that matter :-). I've got a user here who would like to have mail function as follows... When he opens claws, have it open the inbox and position itself so the first unread message is selected but not opened/marked as read. That part's fairly easy. Where things get tricky (or at least I can't figure out how) is that he wants it configured such that if he reads that message and marks it for delete (with 'execute immediately' unchecked), he'd like it to automagically go to the next message *and open/mark it as read*. Is that configuration possible or shall I tell him that he's nuts (I'd be quite happy to do so, but it's the boss so I need justification)... Thanks! Bruce From bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net Tue Feb 18 21:36:17 2014 From: bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net (Bernd Eckenfels) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 21:36:17 +0100 Subject: [Users] go to first unread message but don't open it. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140218213617.00004d83.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> Am Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:15:28 +0000 (UTC) schrieb Bruce Bowler : > Strange request that I can't figure out how (or why, for that > matter :-). I somewhat have the same problem. When using Shift-N to jump around in various accounts (which is required since I dont have a combined inbox) then it happens that mails are "touched" which I dont want to focus on. So instead of pressing "go to next unread" I would like to use the "mark unread and go to next" function. Then I can if I accidentually see a message I dont want to focus on just use the "go to next unread" instead of "mark read and go to next unread" key. This works of combined with "auto mark unread" turned off. Hmmm.. not sure if this is understandable :) (at least this is how I used thunderbird and opera mail before). Gruss Bernd From cwallace at lodgingcompany.com Tue Feb 18 21:56:20 2014 From: cwallace at lodgingcompany.com (Chad Wallace) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:56:20 -0800 Subject: [Users] go to first unread message but don't open it. In-Reply-To: <20140218213617.00004d83.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> References: <20140218213617.00004d83.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> Message-ID: <20140218125620.2e30efeb@ws78.int.tlc> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 21:36:17 +0100 Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > I somewhat have the same problem. When using Shift-N to jump around in > various accounts (which is required since I dont have a combined > inbox) then it happens that mails are "touched" which I dont want to > focus on. So instead of pressing "go to next unread" I would like to > use the "mark unread and go to next" function. Then I can if I > accidentually see a message I dont want to focus on just use the "go > to next unread" instead of "mark read and go to next unread" key. > This works of combined with "auto mark unread" turned off. Couldn't you just set a delay for "Mark message as read / when selected, after N seconds" in the Display / Summaries preferences? -- C. Chad Wallace, B.Sc. The Lodging Company http://www.lodgingcompany.com/ OpenPGP Public Key ID: 0x262208A0 From bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net Tue Feb 18 22:17:02 2014 From: bernd-2014 at eckenfels.net (Bernd Eckenfels) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:17:02 +0100 Subject: [Users] go to first unread message but don't open it. In-Reply-To: <20140218125620.2e30efeb@ws78.int.tlc> References: <20140218213617.00004d83.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> <20140218125620.2e30efeb@ws78.int.tlc> Message-ID: <20140218221702.00000633.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> Am Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:56:20 -0800 schrieb Chad Wallace : > On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 21:36:17 +0100 > Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > > I somewhat have the same problem. When using Shift-N to jump around > > in various accounts (which is required since I dont have a combined > > inbox) then it happens that mails are "touched" which I dont want to > > focus on. So instead of pressing "go to next unread" I would like to > > use the "mark unread and go to next" function. Then I can if I > > accidentually see a message I dont want to focus on just use the "go > > to next unread" instead of "mark read and go to next unread" key. > > This works of combined with "auto mark unread" turned off. > > Couldn't you just set a delay for "Mark message as read / when > selected, after N seconds" in the Display / Summaries preferences? Well, that makes the reading slower when I have to wait for the timeout to kick in. I need to investigate if it is somehow possible to configure multiple actions on a single key. There is a "mark read" and a "go to next unread" action. It just should be a single key. (and it should work on multiple selected messages and a thread variant would be cool .) God I already miss Thunderbind - I never thought I would say that .) Gruss Bernd > > > From kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com Tue Feb 18 22:52:54 2014 From: kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com (Abhay S. Kushwaha) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 03:22:54 +0530 Subject: [Users] go to first unread message but don't open it. In-Reply-To: <20140218213617.00004d83.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> References: <20140218213617.00004d83.bernd-2014@eckenfels.net> Message-ID: <20140219032254.47b63ce8@netsolutionsindia.com> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 21:36:17 +0100, Bernd wrote: > > Strange request that I can't figure out how (or why, for that > > matter :-). > > I somewhat have the same problem. When using Shift-N to jump around > in various accounts (which is required since I dont have a combined > inbox) then it happens that mails are "touched" which I dont want > to focus on. So instead of pressing "go to next unread" I would > like to use the "mark unread and go to next" function. Then I can > if I accidentually see a message I dont want to focus on just use > the "go to next unread" instead of "mark read and go to next > unread" key. This works of combined with "auto mark unread" turned > off. Set up appropriate actions. Assign them hotkeys. Voila! [a] From uncwt at student.kit.edu Tue Feb 18 23:28:56 2014 From: uncwt at student.kit.edu (uncwt at student.kit.edu) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:28:56 +0100 Subject: [Users] Address-book-Other-Attributes-Bug Message-ID: Hi there, it seems, as if entries in 'Other Attributes' in the address book are not saved if there are already 16 entries. Well, usually you do not need more than 16 other attributes, but at least it would be nice to disable the 'Add' bottom instead of allowing to add new entries, which are not saved! Regards, Torsten From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 19 00:38:42 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:38:42 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3094] OK or Yes to create new directory? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3094 --- Comment #2 from Holger Berndt --- Personally, I like neither ok/cancel nor yes/no dialogs. You have to read too carefully what the question is - it might be forward or reverse logic. I like it better if the buttons themselves contain the action word, in this case for example "cancel" and "create". That makes it much harder to get the logic mixed up. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 19 00:54:34 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:54:34 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3096] New: "No Recipient" Error despite there being a recipient. Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3096 Bug ID: 3096 Summary: "No Recipient" Error despite there being a recipient. Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail (Windows) Version: 3.9.1 Hardware: PC OS: Windows XP Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: default Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: sam.mornoene at inbox.com Created attachment 1332 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1332&action=edit Note "Nobody" in the "To:" box. When I delete this, the password dialog for the account is presented, and I can send the email normally. Hello, I've been checking out Claws, and found that when trying to send an email it will display the error "Recipient is not specified" despite there being a recipient. Clearing anything from the "To:" box, while leaving the recipient's email address in place, avoids the error and allows the email to be sent; but, this is pretty unintuitive. Cheers! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Feb 19 10:51:26 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 09:51:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3096] "No Recipient" Error despite there being a recipient. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3096 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Paul --- You edited the To: header and made it a To:nobody header. Therefore, there is no recipient. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From harro at altern.org Wed Feb 19 16:34:13 2014 From: harro at altern.org (harro at altern.org) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 16:34:13 +0100 Subject: [Users] Change mail store folder (to another partition/drive) Message-ID: <3f09c9a6c836fac9675e9ad62cba5380.squirrel@altern.org> Hi all, I would like to change the mail store folder for Claws Mail (containing the emails, addressbook and mail account settings) to another partition and folder. Is there a way to do this? I have looked through the options and configs but have not managed to achieve this without creating a sym-link within Windows (which I would rather avoid). The reason I want to change the store folder is to have the personal data on a separate encrypted partition. I am using Claws 3.9.3 on Windows. If this can only be done in the linux version, I am willing to move this OS. Thank you for any thoughts on this! Rho From ciamarie at centurylink.net Wed Feb 19 17:26:05 2014 From: ciamarie at centurylink.net (Cia Watson) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 08:26:05 -0800 Subject: [Users] Font selection ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140219082605.4294d70f@centurylink.net> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:14:20 -0800 Mr X wrote: > Hi, > > Installed Fedora 19. Installed all updates. Installed claws, 3.9.3. All > well, go to pref -> display -> Fonts.... slelect message... however, a very > limited number of fonts show up. Not all the fonts installed on the system > show up in the list. xfontsel shows many fonts are installed? How do I get > it to find the all the fonts on my system? Hi M, Fonts are generally all installed under /usr/share/fonts. One method you could use to see which fonts are installed on the system is to open something like Abiword or LibreOffice and see what's available in the font selection? I know I have a lot of fonts installed, and they are showing up when I go to the >configuration > prefs > display > fonts, which I've customized. Cia W. From inigo_aldazabal at ehu.es Wed Feb 19 17:41:03 2014 From: inigo_aldazabal at ehu.es (Inigo Aldazabal Mensa) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 17:41:03 +0100 Subject: [Users] Change mail store folder (to another partition/drive) In-Reply-To: <3f09c9a6c836fac9675e9ad62cba5380.squirrel@altern.org> References: <3f09c9a6c836fac9675e9ad62cba5380.squirrel@altern.org> Message-ID: <20140219174103.03303077@U002498.sn.ehu.es> On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 16:34:13 +0100 harro at altern.org wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to change the mail store folder for Claws Mail > (containing the emails, addressbook and mail account settings) to > another partition and folder. > > Is there a way to do this? I have looked through the options and > configs but have not managed to achieve this without creating a > sym-link within Windows (which I would rather avoid). In Linux I think this is in .claws-mail/folderlist.xml . Check for a similar one in Windows. > > The reason I want to change the store folder is to have the personal > data on a separate encrypted partition. > > I am using Claws 3.9.3 on Windows. If this can only be done in the > linux version, I am willing to move this OS. > > Thank you for any thoughts on this! > > Rho > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users From harro at altern.org Wed Feb 19 17:55:27 2014 From: harro at altern.org (harro at altern.org) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 17:55:27 +0100 Subject: [Users] Change mail store folder (to another partition/drive) In-Reply-To: <20140219174103.03303077@U002498.sn.ehu.es> References: <3f09c9a6c836fac9675e9ad62cba5380.squirrel@altern.org> <20140219174103.03303077@U002498.sn.ehu.es> Message-ID: <074c7cac517cd42d1fd3e2d4e2aef384.squirrel@altern.org> Good afternoon Inigo, thank you for your reply! The folderlist.xml only refers to folders inside the Claws mail programme, it does not actually (seem to) refer to real folders on the harddisk. It shows virtual folders without a reference to the system drive: (e.g. path="Drafts"). Or do you suggest that I could change this relative path to an absolute path like: path="D:\mailfolder\Drafts" ? Somewhere Claws has defined that the mail folder is within /%users%/roaming/Claws Mail/ but where? Kind regards, Rho An example from the folderlist.xml is: > On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 16:34:13 +0100 > harro at altern.org wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I would like to change the mail store folder for Claws Mail >> (containing the emails, addressbook and mail account settings) to >> another partition and folder. >> >> Is there a way to do this? I have looked through the options and >> configs but have not managed to achieve this without creating a >> sym-link within Windows (which I would rather avoid). > > In Linux I think this is in .claws-mail/folderlist.xml . Check for a > similar one in Windows. > >> >> The reason I want to change the store folder is to have the personal >> data on a separate encrypted partition. >> >> I am using Claws 3.9.3 on Windows. If this can only be done in the >> linux version, I am willing to move this OS. >> >> Thank you for any thoughts on this! >> >> Rho >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> Users at lists.claws-mail.org >> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > From kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com Wed Feb 19 21:32:11 2014 From: kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com (Abhay S. Kushwaha) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 02:02:11 +0530 Subject: [Users] Change mail store folder (to another partition/drive) In-Reply-To: <3f09c9a6c836fac9675e9ad62cba5380.squirrel@altern.org> References: <3f09c9a6c836fac9675e9ad62cba5380.squirrel@altern.org> Message-ID: <20140220020211.0f94bfd5@netsolutionsindia.com> On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 16:34:13 +0100, harro at altern.org wrote: > I would like to change the mail store folder for Claws Mail > (containing the emails, addressbook and mail account settings) to > another partition and folder. You can move the emails but not the addressbook or mail account settings. They will always go in the default folder unless you symlink them on either of the systems. > Is there a way to do this? I have looked through the options and > configs but have not managed to achieve this without creating a > sym-link within Windows (which I would rather avoid). Close Claws Mail. Move email to new folder. Edit folderlist.xml to point to the new location of mailbox root. The first three lines of my folderlist.xml shows: I had edited the "path" value manually. From harro at altern.org Thu Feb 20 12:12:20 2014 From: harro at altern.org (harro at altern.org) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:12:20 +0100 Subject: [Users] Change mail store folder (to another partition/drive) In-Reply-To: <20140219174103.03303077@U002498.sn.ehu.es> References: <3f09c9a6c836fac9675e9ad62cba5380.squirrel@altern.org> <20140219174103.03303077@U002498.sn.ehu.es> Message-ID: From: "Abhay S. Kushwaha" Cc: users at lists.claws-mail.org Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 02:02:11 +0530 Subject: Re: [Users] Change mail store folder (to another partition/drive) Message: 5 Thank you Abhay, for the clarification. Being able to move the mailfolders is a start. It is a pity that the mail settings and addressbook can't also be moved - the scenario that I am preparing for is the possible theft of my laptop. In such a case, my mailbox would probably still be accessible because the username/password combination is in the windows 'domain' (accessible through the windows). I use IMAP, so having access to my mailbox gives access to these files. It is just 'personal' email but that is not the point of keeping uninvited visitors at bay! Perhaps in a future version there could be a configurable option to store the config file / account information in a separate folder. Kind regards and thank you both for your feedback, Rho On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 16:34:13 +0100, harro at altern.org wrote: > I would like to change the mail store folder for Claws Mail > (containing the emails, addressbook and mail account settings) to > another partition and folder. You can move the emails but not the addressbook or mail account settings. They will always go in the default folder unless you symlink them on either of the systems. > Is there a way to do this? I have looked through the options and > configs but have not managed to achieve this without creating a > sym-link within Windows (which I would rather avoid). Close Claws Mail. Move email to new folder. Edit folderlist.xml to point to the new location of mailbox root. The first three lines of my folderlist.xml shows: I had edited the "path" value manually. > On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 16:34:13 +0100 > harro at altern.org wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I would like to change the mail store folder for Claws Mail >> (containing the emails, addressbook and mail account settings) to >> another partition and folder. >> >> Is there a way to do this? I have looked through the options and >> configs but have not managed to achieve this without creating a >> sym-link within Windows (which I would rather avoid). > > In Linux I think this is in .claws-mail/folderlist.xml . Check for a > similar one in Windows. > >> >> The reason I want to change the store folder is to have the personal >> data on a separate encrypted partition. >> >> I am using Claws 3.9.3 on Windows. If this can only be done in the >> linux version, I am willing to move this OS. >> >> Thank you for any thoughts on this! >> >> Rho >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> Users at lists.claws-mail.org >> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > From kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com Thu Feb 20 12:22:31 2014 From: kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com (Abhay S. Kushwaha) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:52:31 +0530 Subject: [Users] Change mail store folder (to another partition/drive) In-Reply-To: References: <3f09c9a6c836fac9675e9ad62cba5380.squirrel@altern.org> <20140219174103.03303077@U002498.sn.ehu.es> Message-ID: <20140220165231.4370aa60@netsolutionsindia.com> On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:12:20 +0100, harro at altern.org wrote: > Perhaps in a future version there could be a configurable option to > store the config file / account information in a separate folder. Actually it's possible on *nix using a switch but that switch doesn't work on Windows version of the app. Symlink works fine though. From senex at drofle.co.uk Thu Feb 20 13:53:36 2014 From: senex at drofle.co.uk (Neil) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:53:36 +0000 Subject: [Users] Keyboard shortcuts Message-ID: <20140220125336.08dead35@Rufus> I would like to be able to mark any message as Read or Unread without opening it. In Thunderbird I can do this easily. When a message folder is open any selected message can be marked using the letter m as a read/unread toggle. I have searched for something similar in claws, without success. I have found the Keyboard Shortcuts listing in the Miscellaneous menu from Preferences but it is not clear how to add your own. Any help appreciated, Neil From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 20 14:41:12 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 13:41:12 +0000 Subject: [Users] Keyboard shortcuts In-Reply-To: <20140220125336.08dead35@Rufus> References: <20140220125336.08dead35@Rufus> Message-ID: <20140220134112.53fce427@thewildbeast> On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:53:36 +0000 Neil wrote: > I have searched for something similar in claws, without success. I > have found the Keyboard Shortcuts listing in the Miscellaneous menu > from Preferences but it is not clear how to add your own. > > Any help appreciated, http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Interface#How_can_I_change_the_key-bindings_.28hot-keys.29_in_Claws_Mail.3F with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From senex at drofle.co.uk Thu Feb 20 14:57:23 2014 From: senex at drofle.co.uk (Neil) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 13:57:23 +0000 Subject: [Users] Keyboard shortcuts In-Reply-To: <20140220134112.53fce427@thewildbeast> References: <20140220125336.08dead35@Rufus> <20140220134112.53fce427@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140220135723.46917644@Rufus> On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 13:41:12 +0000 Paul wrote: > On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:53:36 +0000 > Neil wrote: > > > I have searched for something similar in claws, without success. I > > have found the Keyboard Shortcuts listing in the Miscellaneous menu > > from Preferences but it is not clear how to add your own. > > > > Any help appreciated, > > http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Interface#How_can_I_change_the_key-bindings_.28hot-keys.29_in_Claws_Mail.3F > > with regards > > Paul > > Thanks, got it. Although I find that I can add a key combination, eg Ctrl-M but I can't add a short-cut as a single letter, eg m. I notice however that some of the shortcuts already in use are single letters, eg U for unmark. Regards Neil From slitt at troubleshooters.com Thu Feb 20 18:14:44 2014 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:14:44 -0500 Subject: [Users] Keyboard shortcuts In-Reply-To: <20140220135723.46917644@Rufus> References: <20140220125336.08dead35@Rufus> <20140220134112.53fce427@thewildbeast> <20140220135723.46917644@Rufus> Message-ID: <20140220121444.6a1a773c@mydesk> On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 13:57:23 +0000 Neil wrote: > Thanks, got it. Although I find that I can add a key combination, eg > Ctrl-M but I can't add a short-cut as a single letter, eg m. I notice > however that some of the shortcuts already in use are single letters, > eg U for unmark. > > Regards > > Neil Hi Neil, If I'm understanding you correctly, this is a known situation with a known workaround. What's probably happening here is when you press "m" as you hover the menu selection, the "m" takes you to a different menu selection. I know this is why you can't hover-set d as the hotkey for delete: You must do the workaround. Here it is: 1) Hover-set the desired action to any unused key combo: The more recognizable the key combo, the better, because you'll need to search for it. I like using something like Ctrl+F12 so I can search for F12. Remember that key combo. 2) Exit all instances of claws mail. 3) With a text editor, edit your Claws menurc file. On Ubuntu 13.10, mine is $HOME/.claws-mail/menurc . Your mileage may differ. 4) Find the line with your new hotkey 5) Change that hotkey to the hotkey you REALLY want (m in this case) 6) Save and exit from the editor 7) Run Claws again. Your new hotkey should now work. HTH, SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance From senex at drofle.co.uk Thu Feb 20 19:33:25 2014 From: senex at drofle.co.uk (Neil) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:33:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] Keyboard shortcuts In-Reply-To: <20140220121444.6a1a773c@mydesk> References: <20140220125336.08dead35@Rufus> <20140220134112.53fce427@thewildbeast> <20140220135723.46917644@Rufus> <20140220121444.6a1a773c@mydesk> Message-ID: <20140220183325.5d8f355c@Rufus> On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:14:44 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > > Hi Neil, > > If I'm understanding you correctly, this is a known situation with a > known workaround. What's probably happening here is when you press "m" > as you hover the menu selection, the "m" takes you to a different menu > selection. I know this is why you can't hover-set d as the hotkey for > delete: You must do the workaround. Here it is: > > 1) Hover-set the desired action to any unused key combo: The more > recognizable the key combo, the better, because you'll need to > search for it. I like using something like Ctrl+F12 so I can > search for F12. Remember that key combo. > 2) Exit all instances of claws mail. > 3) With a text editor, edit your Claws menurc file. On Ubuntu 13.10, > mine is $HOME/.claws-mail/menurc . Your mileage may differ. > 4) Find the line with your new hotkey > 5) Change that hotkey to the hotkey you REALLY want (m in this case) > 6) Save and exit from the editor > 7) Run Claws again. Your new hotkey should now work. > Thanks, that worked. The menurc file was quite long so it took a time to find the original hotkey. Now I must check one last thing, if I try to set a new key short-cut and it is already in use do I get a warning message? That should be easy to check. Regards Neil From senex at drofle.co.uk Thu Feb 20 19:52:33 2014 From: senex at drofle.co.uk (Neil) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:52:33 +0000 Subject: [Users] Keyboard shortcuts In-Reply-To: <20140220183325.5d8f355c@Rufus> References: <20140220125336.08dead35@Rufus> <20140220134112.53fce427@thewildbeast> <20140220135723.46917644@Rufus> <20140220121444.6a1a773c@mydesk> <20140220183325.5d8f355c@Rufus> Message-ID: <20140220185233.320205f5@Rufus> On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:33:25 +0000 Neil wrote: > > Now I must check one last thing, if I try to set a new key short-cut > and it is already in use do I get a warning message? That should be > easy to check. > > Regards > > Neil > Well, I have checked and it appears that it does not warn you. This is a bit worrying. It could mean that I have removed a short-cut from elsewhere without realising it. I must be very careful to choose any new short-cut key combinations that are unlikely to be in use already. Neil From rod_myers at fastmail.fm Thu Feb 20 20:03:24 2014 From: rod_myers at fastmail.fm (Rodney D. Myers) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:03:24 -0500 Subject: [Users] delete/spam actions are delayed Message-ID: <20140220140324.327317b1@riverside> I woke up this am to a freshly (re)booted computer. Crashed during the night. Once I restarted claws (debian testing 3.9.3), I attempted to delete misc email messages, but... They were held until I moved to another folder , and then I was asked about completing the "action" of deleting them. What "setting" got borked during the night? -- Rodney D. Myers They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.         Ben Franklin - 1759 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I must be very careful to choose any >new short-cut key combinations that are unlikely to be in use already. > >Neil I usually just check the menurc file first for any shortcuts in use: ~/.claws-mail/menurc It would be wise to make a backup of that file too. I've lost all my shortcuts before by making a mistake, bad timing... Make any direct edits to that file while claws isn't in use. -- Leon Claws 3.9.3, Ubuntu Karmic-Lucid From slitt at troubleshooters.com Thu Feb 20 21:14:04 2014 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:14:04 -0500 Subject: [Users] Keyboard shortcuts In-Reply-To: <20140220185233.320205f5@Rufus> References: <20140220125336.08dead35@Rufus> <20140220134112.53fce427@thewildbeast> <20140220135723.46917644@Rufus> <20140220121444.6a1a773c@mydesk> <20140220183325.5d8f355c@Rufus> <20140220185233.320205f5@Rufus> Message-ID: <20140220151404.3b0067f3@mydesk> On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:52:33 +0000 Neil wrote: > On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:33:25 +0000 > Neil wrote: > > > > > Now I must check one last thing, if I try to set a new key short-cut > > and it is already in use do I get a warning message? That should be > > easy to check. > > > > Regards > > > > Neil > > > Well, I have checked and it appears that it does not warn you. This > is a bit worrying. It could mean that I have removed a short-cut from > elsewhere without realising it. I must be very careful to choose any > new short-cut key combinations that are unlikely to be in use already. > > Neil Yes. *And*, grepping menurc does little good, because it won't reliably show you the default keybindings. Paul, is there a way to get Claws or something else to dump the key bindings that actually exist, whether they exist by default or by user adjustment? Armed with a list of key bindings, a duplicate key binding finder program would be as simple as a few greps, a couple awks, and a sort. SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance From slitt at troubleshooters.com Thu Feb 20 21:29:21 2014 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:29:21 -0500 Subject: [Users] Keyboard shortcuts In-Reply-To: <20140220151404.3b0067f3@mydesk> References: <20140220125336.08dead35@Rufus> <20140220134112.53fce427@thewildbeast> <20140220135723.46917644@Rufus> <20140220121444.6a1a773c@mydesk> <20140220183325.5d8f355c@Rufus> <20140220185233.320205f5@Rufus> <20140220151404.3b0067f3@mydesk> Message-ID: <20140220152921.1c83cbd5@mydesk> On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:14:04 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:52:33 +0000 > Neil wrote: > Yes. *And*, grepping menurc does little good, because it won't > reliably show you the default keybindings. > > Paul, is there a way to get Claws or something else to dump the key > bindings that actually exist, whether they exist by default or by user > adjustment? I think I found the answer to this question... 1) Close all instances of Claws-Mail 2) rename menurc backup_menurc 3) Run and exit from claws-mail 4) The newly made claws-mail (presumably) has all the defaults listed, but commented out. cat backup-menurc | grep -v "^\s*;" > my_changes_to_menurc cat menurc my_changes_to_menurc | program_moves_hotkey_to_front_then_sorts_then_counts That last program is just a simple filter that puts the hotkey at the start of the line, then sorts the whole bunch, then counts. Probably a fairly simple Python program. If you wanted to make an "m" hotkey, you'd just grep the output for "^\"m\"" to see whether it's already used. If you wanted to find already duplicate hotkeys, you could have that pop out on stderr. The last step, of course, would be to rename menurc to default_menurc, and rename backup_menurc to menurc. If several people want this to happen, I'll write the program to do it. SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance From rcook at pcug.org.au Thu Feb 20 21:31:10 2014 From: rcook at pcug.org.au (Owen) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 07:31:10 +1100 Subject: [Users] Keyboard shortcuts In-Reply-To: <20140220151404.3b0067f3@mydesk> References: <20140220125336.08dead35@Rufus> <20140220134112.53fce427@thewildbeast> <20140220135723.46917644@Rufus> <20140220121444.6a1a773c@mydesk> <20140220183325.5d8f355c@Rufus> <20140220185233.320205f5@Rufus> <20140220151404.3b0067f3@mydesk> Message-ID: > On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:52:33 +0000 > Neil wrote: > > Yes. *And*, grepping menurc does little good, because it won't > reliably > show you the default keybindings. > > Paul, is there a way to get Claws or something else to dump the key > bindings that actually exist, whether they exist by default or by user > adjustment? > Try # egrep -v '(^;)' menurc owen at owen-Vostro1710 ~ $ egrep -v '(^;)' menurc (gtk_accel_path "/Edit/Advanced/Move a character forward" "f") (gtk_accel_path "/Menu/Message/Mark/MarkAllRead" "a") (gtk_accel_path "/Mark/Mark as read" "a") (gtk_accel_path "
/Tools/Log window" "l") (gtk_accel_path "
/View/Show or hide/Message View" "v") (gtk_accel_path "/Menu/Message/Mark/Lock" "l") (gtk_accel_path "/SummaryViewPopup/SummaryViewPopup/Mark/Lock" "l") (gtk_accel_path "/Mark/Lock" "l") (gtk_accel_path "
/Tools/Address book" "a") (gtk_accel_path "/Edit/Advanced/Move a character backward" "b") -- Owen From brad at fineby.me.uk Thu Feb 20 21:37:31 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:37:31 +0000 Subject: [Users] delete/spam actions are delayed In-Reply-To: <20140220140324.327317b1@riverside> References: <20140220140324.327317b1@riverside> Message-ID: <20140220203731.36cd69ef@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:03:24 -0500 "Rodney D. Myers" wrote: Hello Rodney, >They were held until I moved to another folder , and then I was asked >about completing the "action" of deleting them. Possibly Prefs -> Display -> Summaries; "Execute immediately on move or deleting messages" -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Life's short, don't make a mess of it No Time To Be 21 - The Adverts -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Myers" wrote: > > > > Hello Rodney, > > > > >They were held until I moved to another folder , and then I was > > >asked about completing the "action" of deleting them. > > > > Possibly Prefs -> Display -> Summaries; "Execute immediately on > > move or deleting messages" > > > > If you haven't overwritten it yet, I would also suggest checking > contents of file ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc.bak, and comparing it to > clawsrc. There may be other changes as well. -- Rodney D. Myers They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.         Ben Franklin - 1759 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 238 bytes Desc: not available URL: From slitt at troubleshooters.com Fri Feb 21 01:44:23 2014 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 19:44:23 -0500 Subject: [Users] Keyboard shortcuts In-Reply-To: <20140220152921.1c83cbd5@mydesk> References: <20140220125336.08dead35@Rufus> <20140220134112.53fce427@thewildbeast> <20140220135723.46917644@Rufus> <20140220121444.6a1a773c@mydesk> <20140220183325.5d8f355c@Rufus> <20140220185233.320205f5@Rufus> <20140220151404.3b0067f3@mydesk> <20140220152921.1c83cbd5@mydesk> Message-ID: <20140220194423.36eeb5ce@mydesk> On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:29:21 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:14:04 -0500 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:52:33 +0000 > > Neil wrote: > > > Yes. *And*, grepping menurc does little good, because it won't > > reliably show you the default keybindings. > > > > Paul, is there a way to get Claws or something else to dump the key > > bindings that actually exist, whether they exist by default or by > > user adjustment? > > I think I found the answer to this question... > > 1) Close all instances of Claws-Mail > 2) rename menurc backup_menurc > 3) Run and exit from claws-mail > 4) The newly made claws-mail (presumably) has all the defaults listed, > but commented out. > > cat backup-menurc | grep -v "^\s*;" > my_changes_to_menurc > > cat menurc my_changes_to_menurc | > program_moves_hotkey_to_front_then_sorts_then_counts > > That last program is just a simple filter that puts the hotkey at the > start of the line, then sorts the whole bunch, then counts. Probably a > fairly simple Python program. If you wanted to make an "m" hotkey, > you'd just grep the output for "^\"m\"" to see whether it's already > used. If you wanted to find already duplicate hotkeys, you could have > that pop out on stderr. > > The last step, of course, would be to rename menurc to > default_menurc, and rename backup_menurc to menurc. > > If several people want this to happen, I'll write the program to do > it. I made it. It appears to work beautifully on Linux. Just run the clawscount.sh program. It's free software, as mentioned in COPYING.EXPAT. You can get the shellscript, the python file, and the license here: http://www.a3b3.com/litt/clawscount/ Obviously, you need to properly rename, permission, and place on the executable path the shellscript and the Python file. I only tested for a half hour, so if I were you I'd back up $HOME/.claws-mail before running it. Be aware that there are two sleeps in there: One after claws-mail is instantiated, and one after it's closed. So if it appears to hang for a few seconds, it just appears that way. The program refuses to run if you already have claws-mail running: It needs to start and stop Claws on its own. Have fun. SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 21 09:05:32 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 08:05:32 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3069] occasional crashes when reading NNTP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3069 --- Comment #4 from D --- I found a workaround: Metadata handling: Safer This avoid the crash. If I use "Faster" it crashes. So the problem is with the "Faster" option. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From senex at drofle.co.uk Fri Feb 21 09:05:53 2014 From: senex at drofle.co.uk (senex at drofle.co.uk) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 08:05:53 +0000 Subject: [Users] Keyboard shortcuts In-Reply-To: <201402202008.s1KK8r7q013774@mail3.iserv.net> References: <20140220125336.08dead35@Rufus> <20140220134112.53fce427@thewildbeast> <20140220135723.46917644@Rufus> <20140220121444.6a1a773c@mydesk> <20140220183325.5d8f355c@Rufus> <20140220185233.320205f5@Rufus> <201402202008.s1KK8r7q013774@mail3.iserv.net> Message-ID: <530708E1.601@drofle.co.uk> On 20/02/14 20:09, Leon Fisk wrote: > On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:52:33 +0000 > Neil wrote: > > >> Well, I have checked and it appears that it does not warn you. This is >> a bit worrying. It could mean that I have removed a short-cut from >> elsewhere without realising it. I must be very careful to choose any >> new short-cut key combinations that are unlikely to be in use already. >> >> Neil > > I usually just check the menurc file first for any shortcuts in use: > > ~/.claws-mail/menurc > > It would be wise to make a backup of that file too. I've lost all my > shortcuts before by making a mistake, bad timing... > > Make any direct edits to that file while claws isn't in use. > The problem is that the file is so long and not in any order that I can see. I could indeed try to make sure that a 'new' shortcut was not already in use, but I think I could easily miss it. Neil From brad at fineby.me.uk Fri Feb 21 08:23:21 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 07:23:21 +0000 Subject: [Users] delete/spam actions are delayed In-Reply-To: <20140220174512.0c435a23@riverside> References: <20140220140324.327317b1@riverside> <20140220203731.36cd69ef@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140220232038.21f4b70a@penny> <20140220174512.0c435a23@riverside> Message-ID: <20140221072321.40ff3739@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 17:45:12 -0500 "Rodney D. Myers" wrote: Hello Rodney, >Thanks. I'll pay attention for the next few days I've never had that setting change. For me, it was always "Open message when selected" that got changed if there had been a crash. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Well well well, you just can't tell My Michelle - Guns 'N' Roses -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From ricardo at mones.org Fri Feb 21 20:10:38 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 20:10:38 +0100 Subject: [Users] Address-book-Other-Attributes-Bug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140221201038.334139b0@busgosu> Hi Torsten, On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 23:28:56 +0100 wrote: > Hi there, > > it seems, as if entries in 'Other Attributes' in the address book are not > saved if there are already 16 entries. Well, usually you do not need more > than 16 other attributes, but at least it would be nice to disable the > 'Add' bottom instead of allowing to add new entries, which are not saved! Seems this has not been reported before. Can you add this bug request to the bugzilla? (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/) Thanks in advance, -- Ricardo Mones ~ Don't take the name of root in vain. /usr/src/linux/README -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 21 20:48:29 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 19:48:29 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3085] folder_item_scan_full() does stupid things with ignored thread marks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3085 --- Comment #3 from Jason --- Ignore my first patch; it propagates even to already existing, unchanged threads. It's a simple fix to do it to just changed threads, so I'll make that change and add a new patch. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 21 21:19:48 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 20:19:48 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3085] folder_item_scan_full() does stupid things with ignored thread marks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3085 Jason changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1333|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #4 from Jason --- Created attachment 1334 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1334&action=edit Fixes propagation of ignored/watched threads in presence of thread_by_subject (2) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From mir at miras.org Fri Feb 21 21:40:33 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 21:40:33 +0100 Subject: [Users] Digital rights charter Message-ID: <20140221214033.69cf4202@sleipner.datanom.net> Hi all, Sorry if I am bit off-topic but I think members of this list in general favors digital rights, free software and a free internet. If that is the case and you live in a country which is member of the EU the EDRi (European Digital Rights) has made a digital charter asking EU candidates to sign this charter and making the list of candidates available at this site: http://www.wepromise.eu -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: To be great is to be misunderstood. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From lfisk at iserv.net Fri Feb 21 21:57:20 2014 From: lfisk at iserv.net (Leon Fisk) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 16:57:20 -0400 Subject: [Users] Keyboard shortcuts In-Reply-To: <530708E1.601@drofle.co.uk> References: <20140220125336.08dead35@Rufus> <20140220134112.53fce427@thewildbeast> <20140220135723.46917644@Rufus> <20140220121444.6a1a773c@mydesk> <20140220183325.5d8f355c@Rufus> <20140220185233.320205f5@Rufus> <201402202008.s1KK8r7q013774@mail3.iserv.net> <530708E1.601@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <201402212056.s1LKuXM3018513@mail2.iserv.net> On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 08:05:53 +0000 senex at drofle.co.uk wrote: >On 20/02/14 20:09, Leon Fisk wrote: >> On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:52:33 +0000 >> Neil wrote: >> >> >>> Well, I have checked and it appears that it does not warn you. This is >>> a bit worrying. It could mean that I have removed a short-cut from >>> elsewhere without realising it. I must be very careful to choose any >>> new short-cut key combinations that are unlikely to be in use already. >>> >>> Neil >> >> I usually just check the menurc file first for any shortcuts in use: >> >> ~/.claws-mail/menurc >> >> It would be wise to make a backup of that file too. I've lost all my >> shortcuts before by making a mistake, bad timing... >> >> Make any direct edits to that file while claws isn't in use. >> >The problem is that the file is so long and not in any order that I can >see. I could indeed try to make sure that a 'new' shortcut was not >already in use, but I think I could easily miss it. Open it in your favorite text editor and then use its search function. A typical line looks like this: ; (gtk_accel_path "/Menu/Message/Forward" "f") This is a default value, you would have to remove the leading ";" and also change the final quoted portion to something new. Now if I wanted to make a new short cut for something that used "f" somehow, I would search on 'f")' and see what comes up. You should only get a few hits. For instance, I get three using my example. I agree, there isn't much of an order to that file :) -- Leon Claws 3.9.3, Ubuntu Karmic-Lucid From ricardo at mones.org Sat Feb 22 11:04:55 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:04:55 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3069] occasional crashes when reading NNTP In-Reply-To: <20140221093425.1c52731b@sepulchrave.remarqs> References: <20140221093425.1c52731b@sepulchrave.remarqs> Message-ID: <20140222110455.42cafbd4@busgosu> On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:34:25 -0600 »Q« wrote: > On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 08:05:32 +0000 > noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: > > > --- Comment #4 from D --- > > I found a workaround: > > > > Metadata handling: Safer > > > > This avoid the crash. If I use "Faster" it crashes. So the problem is > > with the "Faster" option. > > Where can I find the Metadata handling option? Configuration → Preferences → Other → Miscellaneous regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ 00:45 < hammar> cool.. have you used rssyl? 00:46 <@Ticho> um, yes Seen on #sylpheed -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It turned out mine was already set to "Safer", which I guess is the default. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Feb 22 23:51:02 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:51:02 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3069] occasional crashes when reading NNTP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3069 --- Comment #5 from D --- (In reply to comment #4) > I found a workaround: > > Metadata handling: Safer > > This avoid the crash. If I use "Faster" it crashes. So the problem is with > the "Faster" option. Forget it! The problem returned :( -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From gheskett at wdtv.com Sun Feb 23 04:05:35 2014 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:05:35 -0500 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail Message-ID: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> Greetings everybody; Thinking that since both kmail-1.13.5 and claws-mail keep their email corpus in $HOME/user/Mail, I spent a fews hour copying the kmail email corpus over to $HOME/gene/Mail on a new drive, quite some time back, so its out of date now. But I had to reboot to Ubu-12.04.4 LTS this evening so I thought I'd try one more time. Claws-mail does see the directory structure, but nothing else in that structure. So I blew it away since it was stale anyway. When booted to the 12.04.4 LTS install, its no problem to mount the drive I'm running from right now at someplace handy like media/ubu10.4.4 and restart the copy process. Or, First question, should I try to setup the filters (there are about 50 of them) to steer the imported mails to the proper claws-mail folder, and then import the kmail corpus one maildir directory (some are yet mailfiles too) at a time? 2nd question. Claws-mail I have been told has no dbus port. I normally scan my 3 online accounts with fetchmail, using mailfilter for spam control as a preconnect in fetchmail, what gets past that gets handed off to procmail, which in turn scans for viri with clam, runs it by spamd, and puts what survives in /var/spool/mail/$user, usually me. A session of inotifywatch being run by a looping script then arranges to send kmail a go get the mail commend over the dbus everytime a $user file is closed in /var/spool/mail. This has been working extremely well for several years and linux installs, but claws-mail will need to be notified by some other means to go get and sort the mail. How would one go about doing that from this looping script since claws-mail doesn't have a dbus port? Thanks for any hints. I'd like to get changed over to 12.04.4 LTS, I note youtube videos and news site videos play many times smoother than on Ubu-10.04.4 LTS. And on Ubu 12.04.4 LTS kmail takes a dump and exits instantly, so that puppy isn't even compatible with itself. Its too darned bloated anyway. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. From berndth at gmx.de Sun Feb 23 11:03:01 2014 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 11:03:01 +0100 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <20140223110301.598863d6@wodan> On Sa, 22.02.2014 22:05, Gene Heskett wrote: >A session of >inotifywatch being run by a looping script then arranges to send kmail a go >get the mail commend over the dbus everytime a $user file is closed in >/var/spool/mail. This has been working extremely well for several years >and linux installs, but claws-mail will need to be notified by some other >means to go get and sort the mail. You can trigger Claws-Mail to receive mail with the --receive and --receive-all command line switches. >How would one go about doing that from this looping script since claws-mail >doesn't have a dbus port? One of the examples of the python plugin is to add a simple dbus interface, which would also allow you to trigger mail receiving externally dbus-send --session --type=method_call --dest=org.ClawsMail.PythonPlugin /org/ClawsMail/PythonPlugin org.ClawsMail.PythonPlugin.MainWindow.TriggerGtkAction string:'Message/Receive/AllAccounts' But if you just want to trigger receiving, the command line switch is easier, and has the additional benefit of starting Claws Mail if it's not yet running. Holger From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 23 11:16:24 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 10:16:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3069] occasional crashes when reading NNTP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3069 --- Comment #6 from Paul --- Evidently, since the metadata handling option can't have anything to do with this :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Feb 23 11:25:00 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 10:25:00 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3069] occasional crashes when reading NNTP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3069 --- Comment #7 from D --- (In reply to comment #6) > Evidently, since the metadata handling option can't have anything to do > with this :) Yes, it was something as "wishful thinking". ;) If at least I had a workaround... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From gheskett at wdtv.com Sun Feb 23 14:42:49 2014 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 08:42:49 -0500 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <20140223110301.598863d6@wodan> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140223110301.598863d6@wodan> Message-ID: <201402230842.49944.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Sunday 23 February 2014 08:39:50 Holger Berndt did opine: > On Sa, 22.02.2014 22:05, Gene Heskett wrote: > >A session of > >inotifywatch being run by a looping script then arranges to send kmail > >a go get the mail commend over the dbus everytime a $user file is > >closed in /var/spool/mail. This has been working extremely well for > >several years and linux installs, but claws-mail will need to be > >notified by some other means to go get and sort the mail. > > You can trigger Claws-Mail to receive mail with the --receive and > --receive-all command line switches. > > >How would one go about doing that from this looping script since > >claws-mail doesn't have a dbus port? > > One of the examples of the python plugin is to add a simple dbus > interface, which would also allow you to trigger mail receiving > externally > > dbus-send --session --type=method_call --dest=org.ClawsMail.PythonPlugin > /org/ClawsMail/PythonPlugin > org.ClawsMail.PythonPlugin.MainWindow.TriggerGtkAction > string:'Message/Receive/AllAccounts' > > But if you just want to trigger receiving, the command line switch is > easier, and has the additional benefit of starting Claws Mail if it's > not yet running. > > Holger Thank you Holger, printed for the next time I swap drives & reboot. Maybe I'll get this to work yet. ;-) These python examples are in a claws-mail- python package? > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. From myetto1 at nycap.rr.com Sun Feb 23 14:49:08 2014 From: myetto1 at nycap.rr.com (Michael A. Yetto) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 08:49:08 -0500 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <20140223084908.152ec464@Braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:05:35 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: >Thinking that since both kmail-1.13.5 and claws-mail keep their >email corpus in $HOME/user/Mail, I spent a fews hour copying >the kmail email corpus over to $HOME/gene/Mail on a new drive, >quite some time back, so its out of date now. > >But I had to reboot to Ubu-12.04.4 LTS this evening so I >thought I'd try one more time. Claws-mail does see the >directory structure, but nothing else in that structure. So I >blew it away since it was stale anyway. > >When booted to the 12.04.4 LTS install, its no problem to mount >the drive I'm running from right now at someplace handy like >media/ubu10.4.4 and restart the copy process. > Check out the "Mailbox conversion" section of the page at . There is a kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.pl script that should be helpful. I remember having to tweek it a little a few years ago, but I don't remember why or how. -- Mike Yetto -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mir at miras.org Sun Feb 23 14:54:22 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 14:54:22 +0100 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <201402230842.49944.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140223110301.598863d6@wodan> <201402230842.49944.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <20140223145422.23393b62@sleipner.datanom.net> On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 08:42:49 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: > > Thank you Holger, printed for the next time I swap drives & reboot. Maybe > I'll get this to work yet. ;-) These python examples are in a claws-mail- > python package? > If using deb packages the should be found in /usr/share/claws-mail or /usr/share/doc/claws-mail somewhere. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: "Your butt is mine." -- Michael Jackson, Bad -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From berndth at gmx.de Sun Feb 23 14:57:55 2014 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 14:57:55 +0100 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <201402230842.49944.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140223110301.598863d6@wodan> <201402230842.49944.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <20140223145755.5ce842c2@wodan> On So, 23.02.2014 08:42, Gene Heskett wrote: >These python examples are in a claws-mail- >python package? Dpends on your packager, I guess. They are part of the source distribution, see add_dbus_interface() in http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=blob;f=src/plugins/python/examples/auto/startup;hb=HEAD#l63 Holger From gheskett at wdtv.com Sun Feb 23 15:34:25 2014 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 09:34:25 -0500 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <20140223084908.152ec464@Braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140223084908.152ec464@Braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> Message-ID: <201402230934.25531.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Sunday 23 February 2014 09:33:43 Michael A. Yetto did opine: > On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:05:35 -0500 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > >Thinking that since both kmail-1.13.5 and claws-mail keep their > >email corpus in $HOME/user/Mail, I spent a fews hour copying > >the kmail email corpus over to $HOME/gene/Mail on a new drive, > >quite some time back, so its out of date now. > > > >But I had to reboot to Ubu-12.04.4 LTS this evening so I > >thought I'd try one more time. Claws-mail does see the > >directory structure, but nothing else in that structure. So I > >blew it away since it was stale anyway. > > > >When booted to the 12.04.4 LTS install, its no problem to mount > >the drive I'm running from right now at someplace handy like > >media/ubu10.4.4 and restart the copy process. > > Check out the "Mailbox conversion" section of the page at > . There is a > kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.pl script that should be helpful. I > remember having to tweek it a little a few years ago, but I don't > remember why or how. Thank you Mike, I'll do that. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. From myetto1 at nycap.rr.com Sun Feb 23 15:52:39 2014 From: myetto1 at nycap.rr.com (Michael A. Yetto) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 09:52:39 -0500 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <201402230934.25531.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140223084908.152ec464@Braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> <201402230934.25531.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <20140223095239.396bf31f@Braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 09:34:25 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: >On Sunday 23 February 2014 09:33:43 Michael A. Yetto did opine: > >> On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:05:35 -0500 >> >> Gene Heskett wrote: >> >Thinking that since both kmail-1.13.5 and claws-mail keep >> >their email corpus in $HOME/user/Mail, I spent a fews hour >> >copying the kmail email corpus over to $HOME/gene/Mail on a >> >new drive, quite some time back, so its out of date now. >> > >> >But I had to reboot to Ubu-12.04.4 LTS this evening so I >> >thought I'd try one more time. Claws-mail does see the >> >directory structure, but nothing else in that structure. So >> >I blew it away since it was stale anyway. >> > >> >When booted to the 12.04.4 LTS install, its no problem to >> >mount the drive I'm running from right now at someplace >> >handy like media/ubu10.4.4 and restart the copy process. >> >> Check out the "Mailbox conversion" section of the page at >> . There is >> a kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.pl script that should be helpful. I >> remember having to tweek it a little a few years ago, but I >> don't remember why or how. > >Thank you Mike, I'll do that. > Actually, I just found /usr/share/doc/claws-mail/tools/ with the same tolls right here on my system. The download is not necessary, but friendly mocking might be called for. -- Mike Yetto -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gheskett at wdtv.com Sun Feb 23 16:52:01 2014 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 10:52:01 -0500 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <20140223095239.396bf31f@Braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201402230934.25531.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140223095239.396bf31f@Braetac.lighthouse.yetnet> Message-ID: <201402231052.01694.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Sunday 23 February 2014 10:41:29 Michael A. Yetto did opine: > On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 09:34:25 -0500 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > >On Sunday 23 February 2014 09:33:43 Michael A. Yetto did opine: > >> On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:05:35 -0500 > >> > >> Gene Heskett wrote: > >> >Thinking that since both kmail-1.13.5 and claws-mail keep > >> >their email corpus in $HOME/user/Mail, I spent a fews hour > >> >copying the kmail email corpus over to $HOME/gene/Mail on a > >> >new drive, quite some time back, so its out of date now. > >> > > >> >But I had to reboot to Ubu-12.04.4 LTS this evening so I > >> >thought I'd try one more time. Claws-mail does see the > >> >directory structure, but nothing else in that structure. So > >> >I blew it away since it was stale anyway. > >> > > >> >When booted to the 12.04.4 LTS install, its no problem to > >> >mount the drive I'm running from right now at someplace > >> >handy like media/ubu10.4.4 and restart the copy process. > >> > >> Check out the "Mailbox conversion" section of the page at > >> . There is > >> a kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.pl script that should be helpful. I > >> remember having to tweek it a little a few years ago, but I > >> don't remember why or how. > > > >Thank you Mike, I'll do that. > > Actually, I just found /usr/share/doc/claws-mail/tools/ > with the same tolls right here on my system. The download is not > necessary, but friendly mocking might be called for. Tee hee. Happens in the best regulated families Mike. Think nothing of it. :) I've 4 terrabytes of storage here, and at my age, remembering where I last laid the car keys or my glucose meter is trouble enough. And you worry about the hereafter too because you go get up and go limping off (I tore up a knee last fall) someplace to get something, and when you get there, you wonder what it was that you came here after. ;-) Thanks Mike. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. From ghaverla at materialisations.com Sun Feb 23 17:49:58 2014 From: ghaverla at materialisations.com (ghaverla) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 09:49:58 -0700 Subject: [Users] Claws, and dbus/kio/... Message-ID: <20140223094958.4fd3fc6f@newmain.materia> I believe claws is independent, and is not being pressured into using facilities such as dbus (I believe kio is the KDE version of that). Is the use of these external facilities optional and/or advisory, and not required? I am not a big user of either Gnome or KDE, and I am trying to reduce my cross section to all these things that have been left behind, having once had both installed to some extent. Gord From slitt at troubleshooters.com Sun Feb 23 18:41:27 2014 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 12:41:27 -0500 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <20140223124127.01f2718f@mydesk> On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:05:35 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings everybody; Greetings Gene, Before answering individual questions, here's the URL of the document I wrote when I faced the same task you face now: Escape from Kmail: http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/201202/201202.htm I wrote that document after exploring lots of dead end solutions, *including mailbox conversion via python*. [clip] > First question, should I try to setup the filters (there are about 50 > of them) to steer the imported mails to the proper claws-mail folder, > and then import the kmail corpus one maildir directory (some are yet > mailfiles too) at a time? That's not how I would do it. I'd just copy all your directories to an IMAP server, then copy the IMAP directories locally. And personally, I use a local IMAP server. > 2nd question. Claws-mail I have been told has no dbus port. I > normally scan my 3 online accounts with fetchmail, using mailfilter > for spam control as a preconnect in fetchmail, what gets past that > gets handed off to procmail, which in turn scans for viri with clam, > runs it by spamd, and puts what survives in /var/spool/mail/$user, > usually me. A session of inotifywatch being run by a looping script > then arranges to send kmail a go get the mail commend over the dbus > everytime a $user file is closed in /var/spool/mail. This has been > working extremely well for several years and linux installs, but > claws-mail will need to be notified by some other means to go get and > sort the mail. Holger already gave you a way to do this in Claws, but I have to ask: are your needs for immediacy so great that you can't just set Claws to look for new mail every five minutes? > > How would one go about doing that from this looping script since > claws-mail doesn't have a dbus port? You use inotifywatch, so why would you need a loop? I'll also leave you with my philosophy on email clients... All email clients suck. Claws-Mail sucks the least. But once upon a time, that could have been said of Kmail, and we all know what happened to Kmail. With that in mind, I've tried to decouple my email client from as much as possible. Instead of having my email client contain my past emails, I have a Dovecot IMAP server contain them, and my email client just reads them. Instead of relying on my email client's filters, I implement them in .procmailrc. My email client is nothing more than a viewport into my collection of emails with reply mechanism, and that's the way I like it. Because of this setup, any time I want, I can use Thunderbird instead of Claws-Mail, and it Just Works(tm). I do that often when trying to figure whether a malfunction is due to Claws or not. And, if a future band of Claws developers decide to do something as stupid as binding Claws-Mail to Akonadi and Neepomuk, no big deal, I just plug in a different (IMAP compatible) email client. Now *that's* worry-free. SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance From mir at miras.org Sun Feb 23 19:50:13 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 19:50:13 +0100 Subject: [Users] Claws, and dbus/kio/... In-Reply-To: <20140223094958.4fd3fc6f@newmain.materia> References: <20140223094958.4fd3fc6f@newmain.materia> Message-ID: <20140223195013.00b7ad9f@sleipner.datanom.net> On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 09:49:58 -0700 ghaverla wrote: > I believe claws is independent, and is not being pressured into using > facilities such as dbus (I believe kio is the KDE version of that). > > Is the use of these external facilities optional and/or advisory, and > not required? > > I am not a big user of either Gnome or KDE, and I am trying to reduce > my cross section to all these things that have been left behind, having > once had both installed to some extent. > kio and dbus is not a requirement for claws and no features in claws requires either - maybe the integration with network-manager is an exception but since I am not using this feature I can really tell. In fact claws is a pure GTK+ application so either Gnome or KDE is a requirement and claws works equally well on either as well as XFCE and LXDE. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: Special engagement; no discounts, passes or coupons accepted. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From slitt at troubleshooters.com Sun Feb 23 20:49:52 2014 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 14:49:52 -0500 Subject: [Users] Claws, and dbus/kio/... In-Reply-To: <20140223195013.00b7ad9f@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20140223094958.4fd3fc6f@newmain.materia> <20140223195013.00b7ad9f@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20140223144952.1275a089@mydesk> On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 19:50:13 +0100 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > In fact claws is a pure GTK+ application so either Gnome or KDE is a > requirement and claws works equally well on either as well as XFCE and > LXDE. Works on OpenBox too. SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance From gheskett at wdtv.com Sun Feb 23 21:08:45 2014 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 15:08:45 -0500 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <20140223124127.01f2718f@mydesk> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140223124127.01f2718f@mydesk> Message-ID: <201402231508.45937.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Sunday 23 February 2014 14:17:08 Steve Litt did opine: > On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:05:35 -0500 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings everybody; > > Greetings Gene, > > Before answering individual questions, here's the URL of the document I > wrote when I faced the same task you face now: Escape from Kmail: > > http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/201202/201202.htm > > I wrote that document after exploring lots of dead end solutions, > *including mailbox conversion via python*. > > [clip] > > > First question, should I try to setup the filters (there are about 50 > > of them) to steer the imported mails to the proper claws-mail folder, > > and then import the kmail corpus one maildir directory (some are yet > > mailfiles too) at a time? > > That's not how I would do it. I'd just copy all your directories to an > IMAP server, then copy the IMAP directories locally. And personally, I > use a local IMAP server. > IOW setup dovecot first. I like that. > > 2nd question. Claws-mail I have been told has no dbus port. I > > normally scan my 3 online accounts with fetchmail, using mailfilter > > for spam control as a preconnect in fetchmail, what gets past that > > gets handed off to procmail, which in turn scans for viri with clam, > > runs it by spamd, and puts what survives in /var/spool/mail/$user, > > usually me. A session of inotifywatch being run by a looping script > > then arranges to send kmail a go get the mail commend over the dbus > > everytime a $user file is closed in /var/spool/mail. This has been > > working extremely well for several years and linux installs, but > > claws-mail will need to be notified by some other means to go get and > > sort the mail. > > Holger already gave you a way to do this in Claws, but I have to ask: > are your needs for immediacy so great that you can't just set Claws to > look for new mail every five minutes? If Claws is anything like kmail, with its smorgasbord of functions, that means the mail composer will summarily die for about a minute once each 5, going away as you are typing in mid-word. That is to me very disconcerting, and is the major driving force behind my doing the scripting that except for the fetch and sort from the local /var/spool/mail/$user, takes all that "external" crap away from kmail, background duties it no longer has to worry about. Those pauses now, unless somebody sends 20 megs of images, are a 100 millisecond job I don't notice all that much. > > How would one go about doing that from this looping script since > > claws-mail doesn't have a dbus port? > > You use inotifywatch, so why would you need a loop? Because inotifywatch exits, returning the name of the $USER as the filename to the parent process and must be relaunched as soon as the command has been sent to kmail. By the time it gets relaunched, kmail has re-zeroed the $USER file to a zero length file, and that delay prevents the double call because of the file activity. > I'll also leave you with my philosophy on email clients... > > All email clients suck. Claws-Mail sucks the least. But once upon a > time, that could have been said of Kmail, and we all know what happened > to Kmail. With that in mind, I've tried to decouple my email client > from as much as possible. Instead of having my email client contain my > past emails, I have a Dovecot IMAP server contain them, and my email > client just reads them. Instead of relying on my email client's > filters, I implement them in .procmailrc. My email client is nothing > more than a viewport into my collection of emails with reply mechanism, > and that's the way I like it. The ideal situation I am indeed shooting for. I use my procmailrc for lots of stuff, but only have one non-normal mail file target setup in it. But now that you mention it, kmail apparently see's new mail placed in that ~/Mail/cur mail folder in a timely manner. I'd ask then, can I do that same thing with dovecot, you indicate it can work? I've no experience with imap, to am a total noobie. OTOH, I am subbed that dovecot list also and will not trouble this list with such questions. Too bad there is not a mailing list for "mail systems" where such questions would not be "off topic". IMNSHO, Claws/Courier, or Claws/Dovecot should be treated as a pair of complete solutions, each with its own combined mailing list. But I am just an old fart thinking out loud, without a hand on the tiller. ;-) Thanks to all who answered, I think my direction is a bit less "aimless" now. OTOH, Dovecot has a pidgeonhole or sieve utility to sort incoming stuff to the correct folder, all of which I assume (theres that word again) use similar regex filtering methods, and I need a better understanding of that than I have accomplished so far, and which might be good training for my admittedly well aged wet ram. > Because of this setup, any time I want, I can use Thunderbird instead > of Claws-Mail, and it Just Works(tm). My experience with TB is entirely as a selfcontained pop3 agent that was damned difficult and totally non-intuitive to configure. But I have used it on my laptop when I'm squatting in a motel room when I am out someplace putting out engineering fires. For that, it worked well. Several months at a time on a couple occasions. > I do that often when trying to > figure whether a malfunction is due to Claws or not. And, if a future > band of Claws developers decide to do something as stupid as binding > Claws-Mail to Akonadi and Neepomuk, no big deal, I just plug in a > different (IMAP compatible) email client. Now *that's* worry-free. And that is exactly what I want, worry free, once its up and running. Because 90 days later, I will have mostly forgotten how I did it, and will have to start my troubleshooting from scratch. I don't recommend getting old, its not for wimps. ;-) > SteveT Thanks Steve. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. From jdebert at garlic.com Sun Feb 23 20:51:43 2014 From: jdebert at garlic.com (jdebert) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 11:51:43 -0800 Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?q?How_to_correctly_render_non-ASCII_=28=E6=97=A5?= =?utf-8?b?5pys6KqeKSBzdWJqZWN0IGxpbmVzPw==?= In-Reply-To: <20140214135221.6779aebb@bakaboy> References: <20140213111552.6296dda5@bakaboy> <20140213200822.5ab1e401@thewildbeast> <20140213124720.6a394624@bakaboy> <20140214090904.27b8f245@thewildbeast> <20140214135221.6779aebb@bakaboy> Message-ID: <20140223115143.240794a3@bakaboy> Just an FYI update: It seems the subject header is being altered either by postfix, or most likely, by fetchmail. jd From slitt at troubleshooters.com Mon Feb 24 01:15:19 2014 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 19:15:19 -0500 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <201402231508.45937.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140223124127.01f2718f@mydesk> <201402231508.45937.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <20140223191519.330dbd77@mydesk> On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 15:08:45 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 23 February 2014 14:17:08 Steve Litt did opine: > > > On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:05:35 -0500 > > > > Gene Heskett wrote: [clip] > > That's not how I would do it. I'd just copy all your directories to > > an IMAP server, then copy the IMAP directories locally. And > > personally, I use a local IMAP server. > > > IOW setup dovecot first. I like that. [clip] > > Holger already gave you a way to do this in Claws, but I have to > > ask: are your needs for immediacy so great that you can't just set > > Claws to look for new mail every five minutes? > > If Claws is anything like kmail, with its smorgasbord of functions, > that means the mail composer will summarily die for about a minute > once each 5, going away as you are typing in mid-word. That is to me > very disconcerting, and is the major driving force behind my doing > the scripting that except for the fetch and sort from the > local /var/spool/mail/$user, takes all that "external" crap away > from kmail, background duties it no longer has to worry about. Those > pauses now, unless somebody sends 20 megs of images, are a 100 > millisecond job I don't notice all that much. Your preceding point is why I actually don't have Claws pick up automatically, but force myself to click the Get Mail button. Claws' greatest annoyance is that it cannot do two things at a time, so I'm pretty sure your composing progress *will* stop when it downloads, whether by time or by the inotify system. > > > How would one go about doing that from this looping script since > > > claws-mail doesn't have a dbus port? > > > > You use inotifywatch, so why would you need a loop? > > Because inotifywatch exits, returning the name of the $USER as the LOL, my bad, I was thinking of inotifywait -m. [clip] > > > I'll also leave you with my philosophy on email clients... > > > > All email clients suck. Claws-Mail sucks the least. But once upon a > > time, that could have been said of Kmail, and we all know what > > happened to Kmail. With that in mind, I've tried to decouple my > > email client from as much as possible. Instead of having my email > > client contain my past emails, I have a Dovecot IMAP server contain > > them, and my email client just reads them. Instead of relying on my > > email client's filters, I implement them in .procmailrc. My email > > client is nothing more than a viewport into my collection of emails > > with reply mechanism, and that's the way I like it. > > The ideal situation I am indeed shooting for. I use my procmailrc > for lots of stuff, but only have one non-normal mail file target > setup in it. But now that you mention it, kmail apparently see's new > mail placed in that ~/Mail/cur mail folder in a timely manner. I'd > ask then, can I do that same thing with dovecot, you indicate it can > work? I set up my fetchmail to grab mail every three minutes. My fetchmail passes off to procmail, which, after filtering, drops the messages directly in the correct maildir directories of Dovecot, and once they've been so dropped, they're immediately available via Dovecot. I believe your procmail calls spam detectors to do their thing, so that might jam up the works a little, but probably not to the point of impracticality. > > I've no experience with imap, to am a total noobie. OTOH, I am > subbed that dovecot list also and will not trouble this list with > such questions. > > Too bad there is not a mailing list for "mail systems" where such > questions would not be "off topic". IMNSHO, Claws/Courier, or > Claws/Dovecot should be treated as a pair of complete solutions, each > with its own combined mailing list. But I am just an old fart > thinking out loud, without a hand on the tiller. ;-) I've found most mailing lists and IRC channels to be pretty tolerant of adjacent technologies. Of course, there are exceptions (#html comes to mind, don't go there unless you want conflict), but I think the Claws list is pretty cool. [clip] > > I do that often when trying to > > figure whether a malfunction is due to Claws or not. And, if a > > future band of Claws developers decide to do something as stupid as > > binding Claws-Mail to Akonadi and Neepomuk, no big deal, I just > > plug in a different (IMAP compatible) email client. Now *that's* > > worry-free. > > And that is exactly what I want, worry free, once its up and > running. Because 90 days later, I will have mostly forgotten how I > did it, and will have to start my troubleshooting from scratch. I'd say the only worry is this: Be sure to put a catch-all recipe at the bottom of your .procmailrc, and a special test recipe immediately above that, and every time you change something, you send test mails to make sure that you haven't accidentally diverted good emails. Also, never do this: :0: * ^Subject.*[Dovecot] .dovecot/ The preceding sends every email with d, o, v, e, c or t in its subject into the dovecot folder. In other words, most messages. Heaven help you if the destination were /dev/null instead: You'd never get them back. You need to escape the square brackets, as follows: :0: * ^Subject.*\[Dovecot\] .dovecot/ The preceding sends all messages whose subject contains "[Dovecot]" to the dovecot folder. And as you probably know, procmail recipes are case insensitive. > I don't recommend getting old, its not for wimps. ;-) I was thinking the same thing. I've forgotten where I put my walker. SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance From gheskett at wdtv.com Mon Feb 24 03:54:12 2014 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 21:54:12 -0500 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <20140223191519.330dbd77@mydesk> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201402231508.45937.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140223191519.330dbd77@mydesk> Message-ID: <201402232154.12121.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Sunday 23 February 2014 21:33:34 Steve Litt did opine: > On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 15:08:45 -0500 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 23 February 2014 14:17:08 Steve Litt did opine: > > > On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:05:35 -0500 > > > > Gene Heskett wrote: > [clip] > Thanks. > > > That's not how I would do it. I'd just copy all your directories to > > > an IMAP server, then copy the IMAP directories locally. And > > > personally, I use a local IMAP server. > > > > IOW setup dovecot first. I like that. > > [clip] > > > > Holger already gave you a way to do this in Claws, but I have to > > > ask: are your needs for immediacy so great that you can't just set > > > Claws to look for new mail every five minutes? > > > > If Claws is anything like kmail, with its smorgasbord of functions, > > that means the mail composer will summarily die for about a minute > > once each 5, going away as you are typing in mid-word. That is to me > > very disconcerting, and is the major driving force behind my doing > > the scripting that except for the fetch and sort from the > > local /var/spool/mail/$user, takes all that "external" crap away > > from kmail, background duties it no longer has to worry about. Those > > pauses now, unless somebody sends 20 megs of images, are a 100 > > millisecond job I don't notice all that much. > > Your preceding point is why I actually don't have Claws pick up > automatically, but force myself to click the Get Mail button. Claws' > greatest annoyance is that it cannot do two things at a time, so I'm > pretty sure your composing progress *will* stop when it downloads, > whether by time or by the inotify system. Actually, best of both worlds would be to have it do it by itself, unless there was a composer screen open. :) > > > > How would one go about doing that from this looping script since > > > > claws-mail doesn't have a dbus port? > > > > > > You use inotifywatch, so why would you need a loop? > > > > Because inotifywatch exits, returning the name of the $USER as the > > LOL, my bad, I was thinking of inotifywait -m. > > [clip] > > > > I'll also leave you with my philosophy on email clients... > > > > > > All email clients suck. Claws-Mail sucks the least. But once upon a > > > time, that could have been said of Kmail, and we all know what > > > happened to Kmail. With that in mind, I've tried to decouple my > > > email client from as much as possible. Instead of having my email > > > client contain my past emails, I have a Dovecot IMAP server contain > > > them, and my email client just reads them. Instead of relying on my > > > email client's filters, I implement them in .procmailrc. My email > > > client is nothing more than a viewport into my collection of emails > > > with reply mechanism, and that's the way I like it. > > > > The ideal situation I am indeed shooting for. I use my procmailrc > > for lots of stuff, but only have one non-normal mail file target > > setup in it. But now that you mention it, kmail apparently see's new > > mail placed in that ~/Mail/cur mail folder in a timely manner. I'd > > ask then, can I do that same thing with dovecot, you indicate it can > > work? > > I set up my fetchmail to grab mail every three minutes. My fetchmail > passes off to procmail, which, after filtering, drops the messages > directly in the correct maildir directories of Dovecot, and once > they've been so dropped, they're immediately available via Dovecot. I > believe your procmail calls spam detectors to do their thing, so that > might jam up the works a little, but probably not to the point of > impracticality. And it means I don't have to reinvent all those wheels when I am awake enough to invent them. Which is not the case ATM. Looong day. > > I've no experience with imap, to am a total noobie. OTOH, I am > > subbed that dovecot list also and will not trouble this list with > > such questions. > > > > Too bad there is not a mailing list for "mail systems" where such > > questions would not be "off topic". IMNSHO, Claws/Courier, or > > Claws/Dovecot should be treated as a pair of complete solutions, each > > with its own combined mailing list. But I am just an old fart > > thinking out loud, without a hand on the tiller. ;-) > > I've found most mailing lists and IRC channels to be pretty tolerant of > adjacent technologies. Of course, there are exceptions (#html comes to > mind, don't go there unless you want conflict), but I think the Claws > list is pretty cool. We shoot html offenders on sight, right? ;-) Thats another sore point, this old kmail will change almost anything, including the stuff you have checked as sticky. > [clip] > > > > I do that often when trying to > > > figure whether a malfunction is due to Claws or not. And, if a > > > future band of Claws developers decide to do something as stupid as > > > binding Claws-Mail to Akonadi and Neepomuk, no big deal, I just > > > plug in a different (IMAP compatible) email client. Now *that's* > > > worry-free. > > > > And that is exactly what I want, worry free, once its up and > > running. Because 90 days later, I will have mostly forgotten how I > > did it, and will have to start my troubleshooting from scratch. > > I'd say the only worry is this: Be sure to put a catch-all recipe at > the bottom of your .procmailrc, and a special test recipe immediately > above that, and every time you change something, you send test mails to > make sure that you haven't accidentally diverted good emails. Also, > > never do this: > :0: > * ^Subject.*[Dovecot] > .dovecot/ > > The preceding sends every email with d, o, v, e, c or t in its subject > into the dovecot folder. In other words, most messages. Heaven help you > if the destination were /dev/null instead: You'd never get them back. > > You need to escape the square brackets, as follows: > :0: > * ^Subject.*\[Dovecot\] > .dovecot/ I will make every effort to remember that. I know its required in a mailfilter recipe. But as an anchor point, I normally include the : just in case there is a Subject without the : it might trigger on. > The preceding sends all messages whose subject contains "[Dovecot]" to > the dovecot folder. And as you probably know, procmail recipes are case > insensitive. That can cut both ways, I believe mailfilters rules are case sensitive. > > I don't recommend getting old, its not for wimps. ;-) > > I was thinking the same thing. I've forgotten where I put my walker. I'd borrowed one from the neighbors last fall after I tore up my left knee, but its good enough to walk on for the distances I might walk now, so I took it back about 6 weeks back. My cane is leaning on the door frame leaving my man cave. > SteveT > > Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ > Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. From senex at drofle.co.uk Mon Feb 24 09:45:28 2014 From: senex at drofle.co.uk (Neil) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 08:45:28 +0000 Subject: [Users] Reading emails Message-ID: <20140224084528.25a65825@Rufus> Using Claws most of the time for my emails now. Thanks for all the help so far. Could I ask about reading new messages? I double click on the first unread message and it opens in a new window. When I want to move to the next unread message I use Shift-n as the shortcut. This does indeed move me on to the next unread message, open and ready to read but, and here is the problem, the previous message is still showing in bold in the message list. So the previous message still seems to be unread. I can indeed close the first message, move to the next unread one and then double click on that, but that seems a bit long winded. Am I missing something please? Neil From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 24 10:29:39 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 09:29:39 +0000 Subject: [Users] Claws, and dbus/kio/... In-Reply-To: <20140223144952.1275a089@mydesk> References: <20140223094958.4fd3fc6f@newmain.materia> <20140223195013.00b7ad9f@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140223144952.1275a089@mydesk> Message-ID: <20140224092939.6523ca83@thewildbeast> On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 14:49:52 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > Works on OpenBox too. Of course. Claws is desktop-neutral. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 24 10:40:08 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 09:40:08 +0000 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <20140224094008.53ff7f23@thewildbeast> On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:05:35 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: > /var/spool/mail/$user Create a 'Local' account in Claws and that will pick up mail from /var/spool/mail/$user with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From brad at fineby.me.uk Mon Feb 24 12:49:09 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 11:49:09 +0000 Subject: [Users] Reading emails In-Reply-To: <20140224084528.25a65825@Rufus> References: <20140224084528.25a65825@Rufus> Message-ID: <20140224114909.6a2b842f@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 08:45:28 +0000 Neil wrote: Hello Neil, >move me on to the next unread message, open and ready to read but, and >here is the problem, the previous message is still showing in bold in >the message list. Works fine here. That is, I'm taken to the next unread message and the unread count is reduced by 1 in the Folder list and the emboldening in the Thread list is removed If memory serves, I re-assigned n to be "Move to Next Unread" & n to "Move to Next Message". Obviously, check you actually have the short cut you think you have in the View -> Go to submenu. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Life's short, don't make a mess of it No Time To Be 21 - The Adverts -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That is, I'm taken to the next unread message and > the unread count is reduced by 1 in the Folder list and the > emboldening in the Thread list is removed > > If memory serves, I re-assigned n to be "Move to Next Unread" & > n to "Move to Next Message". Obviously, check you actually > have the short cut you think you have in the View -> Go to submenu. > Thanks, that got me searching the preferences again. Configuration --> Preferences --> Display -->Summaries Under 'Mark messages as Read' I had 'Only when opened in a new window, or replied to' selected. I have now moved the selection to 'When selected, after n seconds' and it now works as I want. The preferences menu has so many items in it, and I am still learning about them. Regards Neil From brad at fineby.me.uk Mon Feb 24 14:03:35 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 13:03:35 +0000 Subject: [Users] {SOLVED} Reading emails In-Reply-To: <20140224124531.7a62b193@Rufus> References: <20140224084528.25a65825@Rufus> <20140224114909.6a2b842f@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140224124531.7a62b193@Rufus> Message-ID: <20140224130335.6eb2797b@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 12:45:31 +0000 Neil wrote: Hello Neil, >Thanks, that got me searching the preferences again. YW. >The preferences menu has so many items in it, and I am still learning >about them. Don't I know it. I've been using CM for almost a decade and as often as not, I can't find the setting I want. I sit there saying to myself "I *know* it's here somewhere...." ;-) Then there's the hidden prefs; The ones that can only be changed by getting your hands dirty editing the config files whilst CM isn't running. Although, to be fair, there is an app to help with that. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 24 14:08:43 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 13:08:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] {SOLVED} Reading emails In-Reply-To: <20140224130335.6eb2797b@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20140224084528.25a65825@Rufus> <20140224114909.6a2b842f@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140224124531.7a62b193@Rufus> <20140224130335.6eb2797b@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140224130843.63d4018b@thewildbeast> On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 13:03:35 +0000 Brad Rogers wrote: > Although, to be fair, there is an app to help with that. http://www.claws-mail.org/clawsker.php with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From senex at drofle.co.uk Mon Feb 24 14:15:00 2014 From: senex at drofle.co.uk (Neil) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 13:15:00 +0000 Subject: [Users] {SOLVED} Reading emails In-Reply-To: <20140224130335.6eb2797b@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20140224084528.25a65825@Rufus> <20140224114909.6a2b842f@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140224124531.7a62b193@Rufus> <20140224130335.6eb2797b@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140224131500.78bb213b@Rufus> On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 13:03:35 +0000 Brad Rogers wrote: > > >The preferences menu has so many items in it, and I am still learning > >about them. > > Don't I know it. I've been using CM for almost a decade and as often > as not, I can't find the setting I want. I sit there saying to myself > "I *know* it's here somewhere...." ;-) > > Then there's the hidden prefs; The ones that can only be changed by > getting your hands dirty editing the config files whilst CM isn't > running. Although, to be fair, there is an app to help with that. > > Finally, I've marked the thread with a 'solved' marker. > I first used CM many years ago, in fact I used Sylpheed first, but it has changed a lot since. I am happy to edit the config files via a text editor, so no problem there. I definitely prefer this modern version of CM to Thunderbird which for me has become too bloated. Thanks for all the help. And yes, I forgot to mark it as SOLVED. After all this time I should remember. (I have been using Linux since 1999 so I should be fairly used to it by now.) Regards Neil From gheskett at wdtv.com Mon Feb 24 14:44:51 2014 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 08:44:51 -0500 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <20140224094008.53ff7f23@thewildbeast> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140224094008.53ff7f23@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <201402240844.51236.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Monday 24 February 2014 08:42:10 Paul did opine: > On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:05:35 -0500 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > /var/spool/mail/$user > > Create a 'Local' account in Claws and that will pick up mail > from /var/spool/mail/$user > > with regards > > Paul This is what I am doing in kmail now. But in the long run, I'd like to put dovecot in the chain so I can access it, using claws in imap mode, from any machine on my local net. That obviously will get a little more complex. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. From ricardo at mones.org Mon Feb 24 15:30:00 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 15:30:00 +0100 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <201402240844.51236.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140224094008.53ff7f23@thewildbeast> <201402240844.51236.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <20140224143000.GH21209@trasgu> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 08:44:51AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 24 February 2014 08:42:10 Paul did opine: > > > On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:05:35 -0500 > > > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > /var/spool/mail/$user > > > > Create a 'Local' account in Claws and that will pick up mail > > from /var/spool/mail/$user > > > > with regards > > > > Paul > > This is what I am doing in kmail now. But in the long run, I'd like to put > dovecot in the chain so I can access it, using claws in imap mode, from any > machine on my local net. If you have X servers on your local net machines you can simply ssh -X your server and run Claws Mail there but viewing it locally. regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ 00:45 < hammar> cool.. have you used rssyl? 00:46 <@Ticho> um, yes Seen on #sylpheed -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From gheskett at wdtv.com Mon Feb 24 15:49:23 2014 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 09:49:23 -0500 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <20140224143000.GH21209@trasgu> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201402240844.51236.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140224143000.GH21209@trasgu> Message-ID: <201402240949.24046.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Monday 24 February 2014 09:34:03 Ricardo Mones did opine: > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 08:44:51AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 24 February 2014 08:42:10 Paul did opine: > > > On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:05:35 -0500 > > > > > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > /var/spool/mail/$user > > > > > > Create a 'Local' account in Claws and that will pick up mail > > > from /var/spool/mail/$user > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > Paul > > > > This is what I am doing in kmail now. But in the long run, I'd like > > to put dovecot in the chain so I can access it, using claws in imap > > mode, from any machine on my local net. > > If you have X servers on your local net machines you can simply ssh -X > your server and run Claws Mail there but viewing it locally. > > regards, Ok, but if I leave this copy running 24/7 like I do kmail, can this machine actually run another non-interacting copy when I ssh -Y coyote from say, lathe.coyote.den and run the 2nd copy beside the one that is already running? Previously I have not had a lot of luck trying to do that. My background script that uses inotifywait for that, will cause reboot to fix system problems if the dbus cache pipeline fills up with unreplied msgs. I can of course re-write that to check for the kmail PID before sending the message, so that isn't insurmountable. What I am doing there ATM is if kmail's PID can't be found, my background script starts a new copy of kmail, which ATM is how it gets started on a reboot. But its certainly a thought to consider. All it would take is for me to remember to shut it down here when I go out to the shop to carve steel or wood, sometimes both. Gotta go get some coffee under construction & think about it. Way too many pages to the menu... :) Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. From ricardo at mones.org Mon Feb 24 16:13:05 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:13:05 +0100 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <201402240949.24046.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201402240844.51236.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140224143000.GH21209@trasgu> <201402240949.24046.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <20140224151305.GI21209@trasgu> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 09:49:23AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 24 February 2014 09:34:03 Ricardo Mones did opine: > > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 08:44:51AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Monday 24 February 2014 08:42:10 Paul did opine: > > > > On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:05:35 -0500 > > > > > > > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > /var/spool/mail/$user > > > > > > > > Create a 'Local' account in Claws and that will pick up mail > > > > from /var/spool/mail/$user > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > This is what I am doing in kmail now. But in the long run, I'd like > > > to put dovecot in the chain so I can access it, using claws in imap > > > mode, from any machine on my local net. > > > > If you have X servers on your local net machines you can simply ssh -X > > your server and run Claws Mail there but viewing it locally. > > > > regards, > > Ok, but if I leave this copy running 24/7 like I do kmail, can this machine > actually run another non-interacting copy when I ssh -Y coyote from say, > lathe.coyote.den and run the 2nd copy beside the one that is already > running? Previously I have not had a lot of luck trying to do that. My > background script that uses inotifywait for that, will cause reboot to fix > system problems if the dbus cache pipeline fills up with unreplied msgs. I > can of course re-write that to check for the kmail PID before sending the > message, so that isn't insurmountable. What I am doing there ATM is if > kmail's PID can't be found, my background script starts a new copy of > kmail, which ATM is how it gets started on a reboot. Using a graphic MUA to emulate fetchmail/getmail isn't a good idea, but you can also launch “claws-mail --receive-all & sleep 60 && claws-mail --exit” via crontab to incorporate all mail periodically insted of running it all the time (you may need to increase the 60 seconds if your incorporation process takes more than one minute). Trying to launch it remotely while it's running may fail, but it's only matter of waiting for a minute at worst. -- Ricardo Mones ~ You have the capacity to learn from mistakes. You'll learn a lot today. /usr/games/fortune -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Previously I have not had a lot of luck trying to do that. > My > background script that uses inotifywait for that, will cause reboot to > fix > system problems if the dbus cache pipeline fills up with unreplied > msgs. I > can of course re-write that to check for the kmail PID before sending > the > message, so that isn't insurmountable. What I am doing there ATM is if > kmail's PID can't be found, my background script starts a new copy of > kmail, which ATM is how it gets started on a reboot. > Using separate homes for each running instance will allow to start more instances of claws. See commandline options. -- Hilsen/regards Michael Rasmussen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: vcard.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 102 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gheskett at wdtv.com Mon Feb 24 16:43:25 2014 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:43:25 -0500 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <20140224143000.GH21209@trasgu> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201402240844.51236.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140224143000.GH21209@trasgu> Message-ID: <201402241043.25316.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Monday 24 February 2014 10:33:36 Ricardo Mones did opine: > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 08:44:51AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 24 February 2014 08:42:10 Paul did opine: > > > On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:05:35 -0500 > > > > > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > /var/spool/mail/$user > > > > > > Create a 'Local' account in Claws and that will pick up mail > > > from /var/spool/mail/$user > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > Paul > > > > This is what I am doing in kmail now. But in the long run, I'd like > > to put dovecot in the chain so I can access it, using claws in imap > > mode, from any machine on my local net. > > If you have X servers on your local net machines you can simply ssh -X > your server and run Claws Mail there but viewing it locally. > > regards, Thinking about how to be able to experiment without tearing down kmail, I guess my first question is, since I have disk space, is: How do I change claws-mail's default mail holding directory away from $HOME/Mail, so that there is not any interactions with kmail's used of the $HOME/Mail tree? That way, I can setup a duplicate folder tree, and "import" whatever I can just to see how it might work. This would be for the local to this drive copy only, but come time to swap drives for good, then I could just fire up mc and copy it to the normal $HOME/Mail on the other drive. I have looked at my ~/.claws-mail/accountrc, but I don't see a directive there that looks like it might actually be the right one to edit. There are several candidate lines, but not one that actually says ~/Mail now. Gotta start someplace. Thanks. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. From gheskett at wdtv.com Mon Feb 24 16:53:01 2014 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:53:01 -0500 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <23b885ec37082f1ed85d8dc6a9611cbe@datanom.net> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201402240949.24046.gheskett@wdtv.com> <23b885ec37082f1ed85d8dc6a9611cbe@datanom.net> Message-ID: <201402241053.01459.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Monday 24 February 2014 10:44:49 Michael Rasmussen did opine: > On 02-24-2014 15:49, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Ok, but if I leave this copy running 24/7 like I do kmail, can this > > machine > > actually run another non-interacting copy when I ssh -Y coyote from > > say, > > lathe.coyote.den and run the 2nd copy beside the one that is already > > running? Previously I have not had a lot of luck trying to do that. > > My > > background script that uses inotifywait for that, will cause reboot to > > fix > > system problems if the dbus cache pipeline fills up with unreplied > > msgs. I > > can of course re-write that to check for the kmail PID before sending > > the > > message, so that isn't insurmountable. What I am doing there ATM is > > if kmail's PID can't be found, my background script starts a new copy > > of kmail, which ATM is how it gets started on a reboot. > > Using separate homes for each running instance will allow to start more > instances of claws. See commandline options. That would no doubt work except only user 1000 can access the sudo stuff in case I need to fix something. Potential PIMA. Right now I am trying to figure out how to change its default mailbox so its not looking at the kmail ~/Mail tree, where of course it cannot actually see any of the 5Gb of mail in that tree. So I want to start a new tree, named mail-claws perhaps? But I've not found where that is configured yet. Thanks Michael. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. From slitt at troubleshooters.com Mon Feb 24 16:55:54 2014 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:55:54 -0500 Subject: [Users] {SOLVED} Reading emails In-Reply-To: <20140224131500.78bb213b@Rufus> References: <20140224084528.25a65825@Rufus> <20140224114909.6a2b842f@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140224124531.7a62b193@Rufus> <20140224130335.6eb2797b@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140224131500.78bb213b@Rufus> Message-ID: <20140224105554.279559ef@mydesk> On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 13:15:00 +0000 Neil wrote: > On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 13:03:35 +0000 > Brad Rogers wrote: > I definitely prefer this modern > version of CM to Thunderbird which for me has become too bloated. LOL, when I whip out Thunderbird for troubleshooting and plug it into my Dovecot, it can take literally hours to do its mumbo jumbo and sync its local copies (which I don't want or need). It's a *pig*. If Claws ever becomes unusable and I need another email client for daily use, I plan to use Mutt. SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance From slitt at troubleshooters.com Mon Feb 24 17:01:54 2014 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 11:01:54 -0500 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <20140224143000.GH21209@trasgu> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140224094008.53ff7f23@thewildbeast> <201402240844.51236.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140224143000.GH21209@trasgu> Message-ID: <20140224110154.27f96921@mydesk> On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 15:30:00 +0100 Ricardo Mones wrote: > If you have X servers on your local net machines you can simply ssh > -X your server and run Claws Mail there but viewing it locally. I do that when on the road. I ssh on port 993 thru a pinhole in my firewall redirecting to my daily driver desktop, to access my desktop's Dovecot. Be *very* aware that when you do that, it's *slow*, which greatly compounds Claws' "can only do one thing at a time" annoyance. The way to minimize the annoyance is, before clicking "Get Mail", click the folder with the most mail, so that just that folder is downloaded. Then, when that folder is downloaded, click on a message to make sure you can see it. Only then should you click "Get Mail". What will happen is, concurrently with the whole tree download, you'll be able to view email in the one folder you're currently in. Hopefully, by the time you've read all your new mail in that one folder, the download is done. Be very aware that although you can look at email in that folder, you can't respond: Sending is disabled while the download progresses. One more thing. If you're leaving on a trip, *be sure* to do the complete "Get Mail" locally, so that on the road very few additional downloads are required to get your laptop synced. SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance From slitt at troubleshooters.com Mon Feb 24 17:17:16 2014 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 11:17:16 -0500 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <201402240949.24046.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201402240844.51236.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140224143000.GH21209@trasgu> <201402240949.24046.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <20140224111716.6f7b9dfb@mydesk> On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 09:49:23 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 24 February 2014 09:34:03 Ricardo Mones did opine: > > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 08:44:51AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Monday 24 February 2014 08:42:10 Paul did opine: > > > > On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:05:35 -0500 > > > > > > > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > /var/spool/mail/$user > > > > > > > > Create a 'Local' account in Claws and that will pick up mail > > > > from /var/spool/mail/$user > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > This is what I am doing in kmail now. But in the long run, I'd > > > like to put dovecot in the chain so I can access it, using claws > > > in imap mode, from any machine on my local net. > > > > If you have X servers on your local net machines you can simply > > ssh -X your server and run Claws Mail there but viewing it locally. > > > > regards, > > Ok, but if I leave this copy running 24/7 like I do kmail, can this > machine actually run another non-interacting copy when I ssh -Y > coyote from say, lathe.coyote.den and run the 2nd copy beside the one > that is already running? Previously I have not had a lot of luck > trying to do that. My background script that uses inotifywait for > that, will cause reboot to fix system problems if the dbus cache > pipeline fills up with unreplied msgs. Leave dbus alone. Don't use it in your script, and Claws won't use it either. Kmail makes dbus go 99% of CPU, often so often that I had to use a cron job to look for and kill dbus instances remaining above 94% for more than 5 seconds. I'm a huge fan of encapsulation, and dbus, even though not made by the Klowns Destroying Everything (KDE), is a huge encapsulation violation. If I absolutely need two processes to talk to each other, I can usually find ways of doing that myself, especially if I'm the guy who coded one or both of them. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance From mir at miras.org Mon Feb 24 17:20:24 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:20:24 +0100 Subject: [Users] {SOLVED} Reading emails In-Reply-To: <20140224105554.279559ef@mydesk> References: <20140224084528.25a65825@Rufus> <20140224114909.6a2b842f@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140224124531.7a62b193@Rufus> <20140224130335.6eb2797b@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140224131500.78bb213b@Rufus> <20140224105554.279559ef@mydesk> Message-ID: <20140224172024.524153fb@sleipner.datanom.net> On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:55:54 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > > If Claws ever becomes unusable and I need another email client for > daily use, I plan to use Mutt. > Mutt is my default MUA on servers - no X. It is highly customizable like claws and can be configured to interact with Vi. Definitely a killer combination. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: I'm gliding over a NUCLEAR WASTE DUMP near ATLANTA, Georgia!! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The mention wasn't meant to be a jab at you BTW, just a notifcation that it had been done. >all this time I should remember. (I have been using Linux since 1999 so >I should be fairly used to it by now.) :-) -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Gary don't need his eyes to see. Gary and his eyes have parted company Gary Gilmore's Eyes - The Adverts -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Given the ethos of the dev team (native HTML: Just say no), I don't think that day will come. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" You're not so safe in the safety of your room Nasty - The Damned -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 24 18:00:05 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:00:05 +0000 Subject: [Users] Drafts folder highlighted as if it contained new and unread messages In-Reply-To: <20140224134153.5fb8ebba@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20140224134153.5fb8ebba@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140224170005.1add0749@thewildbeast> On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 13:41:53 +0000 Brad Rogers wrote: > Is this behaviour intentional, and if yes, can it be turned off? Check the GIT log msgs: e.g. "indicate when there are messages in Drafts" Why would you want to turn it off? with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From ricardo at mones.org Mon Feb 24 18:02:31 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:02:31 +0100 Subject: [Users] Drafts folder highlighted as if it contained new and unread messages In-Reply-To: <20140224134153.5fb8ebba@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20140224134153.5fb8ebba@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140224170231.GJ21209@trasgu> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 01:41:53PM +0000, Brad Rogers wrote: > Hello All, > > Since upgrading to v3.9.3-29-gb079a3 from GIT repositories, all the > Drafts folders (in the Folder view) that contain messages are highlighted > (bold and blue with my prefs) as if they contained new & unread messages, > although the new & unread counts are both zero. Moving all messages out > of the Drafts folder returns it to the usual un-emphasised state. > > Is this behaviour intentional, and if yes, can it be turned off? Yes, and no. If you have something in drafts it's time to finish it or delete it or move it to another folder (since it's not a draft), isn't it? :) -- Ricardo Mones ~ Don't take the name of root in vain. /usr/src/linux/README -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From brad at fineby.me.uk Mon Feb 24 18:23:44 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:23:44 +0000 Subject: [Users] Drafts folder highlighted as if it contained new and unread messages In-Reply-To: <20140224170005.1add0749@thewildbeast> References: <20140224134153.5fb8ebba@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140224170005.1add0749@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140224172344.2d1f00ef@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:00:05 +0000 Paul wrote: Hello Paul, >Check the GIT log msgs: e.g. "indicate when there are messages in >Drafts" Ah, passed me by. Thanks. >Why would you want to turn it off? Personal preference; I know the message(s) is(are) there. No other reason. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Going round on the Circle Line trying to find a way out Titanic (My Over) Reaction - 999 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From brad at fineby.me.uk Mon Feb 24 18:25:41 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:25:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] Drafts folder highlighted as if it contained new and unread messages In-Reply-To: <20140224170231.GJ21209@trasgu> References: <20140224134153.5fb8ebba@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140224170231.GJ21209@trasgu> Message-ID: <20140224172541.36de00a5@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:02:31 +0100 Ricardo Mones wrote: Hello Ricardo, > If you have something in drafts it's time to finish it or delete it or >move it to another folder (since it's not a draft), isn't it? :) Fair point. I've been using Drafts as a 'holding pen', as it were, for what amounts to a template for job application emails. The global or folder specific 'Compose' template option isn't suitable for this use, as it would be applied to everything. Looks like I'll be adding YAF (Yet Another Folder). :-) -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Chose to play the fool in a six piece band What A Waste - Ian Dury And The Blockheads -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Probably /Configuration/Templates would be good, though?? with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From brad at fineby.me.uk Mon Feb 24 19:39:06 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:39:06 +0000 Subject: [Users] Drafts folder highlighted as if it contained new and unread messages In-Reply-To: <20140224181837.1124f9b5@thewildbeast> References: <20140224134153.5fb8ebba@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140224170231.GJ21209@trasgu> <20140224172541.36de00a5@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140224181837.1124f9b5@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140224183906.60551a7b@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:18:37 +0000 Paul wrote: Hello Paul, >Probably /Configuration/Templates would be good, though?? Feck! In all the years I've been using CM, I've never given that a second glance, thinking it was little more than offered as templates in the folder settings. All because of an assumption. As they say; "Never assume; It makes an Ass of U and Me". Just goes to show...... Many, many thanks Paul. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" If you ain't sticking your knives in me, you will be eventually Monsoon - Robbie Williams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From colin at colino.net Mon Feb 24 19:54:34 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 19:54:34 +0100 Subject: [Users] Outlook Express and PGP In-Reply-To: <20140215195428.4ddffacd@itxbox.bitcorner.intern> References: <20140215180249.67987e44@itxbox.bitcorner.intern> <20140215182837.713bc6be@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140215195428.4ddffacd@itxbox.bitcorner.intern> Message-ID: <20140224195434.1d9fde52@mike> On 15 February 2014 at 19h54, Andreas Meyer wrote: Hi, > > Depending on version of Outlook PGP/Mime is not supported. The > > general recommendation if people are forced to email others which > > uses Outlook of older date is to either use PGP/Inline or dont > > signed the email at all. > > My Partner just reportet that Livemail in Windows 7 gets empty > messages too. Is this possible? From what I remember, yes. Microsoft learns very slowly, and probably RFc 3516 is not old enough to be on their radar. After all, it's only 13 years old! -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 190 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gheskett at wdtv.com Mon Feb 24 21:50:09 2014 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 15:50:09 -0500 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <20140224111716.6f7b9dfb@mydesk> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201402240949.24046.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140224111716.6f7b9dfb@mydesk> Message-ID: <201402241550.09722.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Monday 24 February 2014 15:27:06 Steve Litt did opine: > On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 09:49:23 -0500 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 24 February 2014 09:34:03 Ricardo Mones did opine: > > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 08:44:51AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Monday 24 February 2014 08:42:10 Paul did opine: > > > > > On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:05:35 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > /var/spool/mail/$user > > > > > > > > > > Create a 'Local' account in Claws and that will pick up mail > > > > > from /var/spool/mail/$user > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > This is what I am doing in kmail now. But in the long run, I'd > > > > like to put dovecot in the chain so I can access it, using claws > > > > in imap mode, from any machine on my local net. > > > > > > > If you have X servers on your local net machines you can simply > > > > > > ssh -X your server and run Claws Mail there but viewing it locally. > > > > > > regards, > > > > Ok, but if I leave this copy running 24/7 like I do kmail, can this > > machine actually run another non-interacting copy when I ssh -Y > > coyote from say, lathe.coyote.den and run the 2nd copy beside the one > > that is already running? Previously I have not had a lot of luck > > trying to do that. My background script that uses inotifywait for > > that, will cause reboot to fix system problems if the dbus cache > > pipeline fills up with unreplied msgs. > > Leave dbus alone. Don't use it in your script, and Claws won't use it > either. Kmail makes dbus go 99% of CPU, often so often that I had to > use a cron job to look for and kill dbus instances remaining above 94% > for more than 5 seconds. I agree, its probably a solution looking for a problem, but I can count on one or 2 fingers the number of times the grab a core and hang on has happened in about 6 or 7 years of use. > I'm a huge fan of encapsulation, and dbus, even though not made by the > Klowns Destroying Everything (KDE), is a huge encapsulation violation. > If I absolutely need two processes to talk to each other, I can usually > find ways of doing that myself, especially if I'm the guy who coded one > or both of them. Yeah, I'd be much more in favor of a "unix socket" (domain.name:37295) for example, to feed, but I've no experience in coding such a beast. But I think you can check for the presence of the socket before you send the command to it, preventing the trash build up. Well written bash scripts can do that pretty easy and I've managed to hit a lick or two with those. I must have, when everything is up and running here, a good dozen bash scripts that think they are background daemons. ~/bin/mailwatcher, which uses inotifywait, is just one of them. ATM one java jar is not running, a feedback loop over heated and blew the bit banging serial port in my Color Computer 3 in the basement, so that and 2 or 3 other bash helpers aren't running. My nightly amanda run for backups is managed by a bash script that fills the recovery data gap of one day, so I can recover to exactly what I had at 2AM this morning if something should be fat fingered. To new, bare metal if need be. > Thanks, > > SteveT > > Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ > Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Feb 24 22:25:19 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 21:25:19 +0000 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <201402241550.09722.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201402240949.24046.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140224111716.6f7b9dfb@mydesk> <201402241550.09722.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <20140224212519.7a8a0ad5@thewildbeast> I think this has strayed way too far off-topic now! regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From andrej at kacian.sk Mon Feb 24 23:04:34 2014 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 23:04:34 +0100 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <201402241043.25316.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201402240844.51236.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140224143000.GH21209@trasgu> <201402241043.25316.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <20140224230434.101dc9d0@penny> On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:43:25 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: > How do I change claws-mail's default mail holding directory away from > $HOME/Mail, so that there is not any interactions with kmail's used of the > $HOME/Mail tree? That way, I can setup a duplicate folder tree, and > "import" whatever I can just to see how it might work. > > This would be for the local to this drive copy only, but come time to swap > drives for good, then I could just fire up mc and copy it to the normal > $HOME/Mail on the other drive. > > I have looked at my ~/.claws-mail/accountrc, but I don't see a directive > there that looks like it might actually be the right one to edit. There > are several candidate lines, but not one that actually says ~/Mail now. The correct settings for that are in folderlist.xml, but a better (and safer) way is to simply add a new MH mailbox called for example "MyMail", which will create $HOME/MyMail. And if you already have some MH-formatted mailbox prepared, just move it to $HOME/MyMail first, then add a "MyMail" mailbox in claws-mail - it will not overwrite contents, but will read and load the content into claws-mail. -- Andrej Kacian From gheskett at wdtv.com Mon Feb 24 23:55:39 2014 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:55:39 -0500 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <20140224230434.101dc9d0@penny> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201402241043.25316.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140224230434.101dc9d0@penny> Message-ID: <201402241755.39831.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Monday 24 February 2014 17:33:38 Andrej Kacian did opine: > On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:43:25 -0500 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > How do I change claws-mail's default mail holding directory away from > > $HOME/Mail, so that there is not any interactions with kmail's used of > > the $HOME/Mail tree? That way, I can setup a duplicate folder tree, > > and "import" whatever I can just to see how it might work. > > > > This would be for the local to this drive copy only, but come time to > > swap drives for good, then I could just fire up mc and copy it to the > > normal $HOME/Mail on the other drive. > > > > I have looked at my ~/.claws-mail/accountrc, but I don't see a > > directive there that looks like it might actually be the right one to > > edit. There are several candidate lines, but not one that actually > > says ~/Mail now. > > The correct settings for that are in folderlist.xml, but a better (and > safer) way is to simply add a new MH mailbox called for example > "MyMail", which will create $HOME/MyMail. > Did that, new MyMail created and slightly populated. But, how do I now make that into the claws-mail default directory tree? I did edit the top description to change it to MyMail, but it still is seeing all the kmail maildirs and mailfiles but cannot read them. And surprise, I had forgotten I had tried to set up Dovecot as an imap4 server, pointed at the wdtv folder in kmail, and claws-mail does see that, including about 2200 sent messages it will read. But again, nothing in any other category except sent. I looked in the MyMail folder, and it looks like a pretty pure claws-mail structure, including the names at least of a few of the kmail folders. gene at coyote:~/MyMail$ ls -laR .: total 44 drwx------ 11 gene gene 4096 2014-02-24 17:27 . drwxr-xr-x 113 gene gene 4096 2014-02-24 17:39 .. drwx------ 2 gene gene 4096 2014-02-24 17:18 alsa-user drwx------ 2 gene gene 4096 2014-02-24 17:27 clamav drwx------ 2 gene gene 4096 2014-02-24 17:15 draft drwx------ 2 gene gene 4096 2014-02-24 17:29 ham drwx------ 5 gene gene 4096 2014-02-24 17:23 inbox -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene 0 2014-02-24 17:11 .mh_sequences drwx------ 2 gene gene 4096 2014-02-24 17:15 queue drwx------ 2 gene gene 4096 2014-02-24 17:15 sent drwx------ 2 gene gene 4096 2014-02-24 17:27 spam drwx------ 2 gene gene 4096 2014-02-24 17:15 trash ./alsa-user: total 16 drwx------ 2 gene gene 4096 2014-02-24 17:18 . drwx------ 11 gene gene 4096 2014-02-24 17:27 .. -rw------- 1 gene gene 13 2014-02-24 17:18 .claws_cache -rw------- 1 gene gene 4 2014-02-24 17:18 .claws_mark -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene 0 2014-02-24 17:18 .mh_sequences ./clamav: total 16 drwx------ 2 gene gene 4096 2014-02-24 17:27 . drwx------ 11 gene gene 4096 2014-02-24 17:27 .. -rw------- 1 gene gene 13 2014-02-24 17:27 .claws_cache -rw------- 1 gene gene 4 2014-02-24 17:27 .claws_mark -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene 0 2014-02-24 17:27 .mh_sequences [... 2 more pages] Looking in the folders.xml, I see the structure of all the folders within this ~/MyMail, way more than has been created so far by the above listing shows. But then I note that there is not an overall wrapper describing MyMail itself, its describing everything within ~/MyMail. Broken install? Or do I nuke all this and recompile from the tarball? > And if you already have some MH-formatted mailbox prepared, just move it > to $HOME/MyMail first, then add a "MyMail" mailbox in claws-mail - it > will not overwrite contents, but will read and load the content into > claws-mail. Did not have an MH formatted setup, and TBT, don't know what defines an "MH" setup. I Know about mailfiles, and about maildirs, but not about this MH at all. Can it be explained easily, or is there a link to a treatise on it? Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page NOTICE: Will pay 100 USD for an HP-4815A defective but complete probe assembly. From itz at buug.org Tue Feb 25 07:02:03 2014 From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 22:02:03 -0800 Subject: [Users] Need help, moving from kmail-1.13.5 to claws-mail In-Reply-To: <20140223191519.330dbd77@mydesk> References: <201402222205.35850.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140223124127.01f2718f@mydesk> <201402231508.45937.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20140223191519.330dbd77@mydesk> Message-ID: <20140224220203.7993f4a9.itz@buug.org> On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 19:15:19 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > :0: > * ^Subject.*[Dovecot] > .dovecot/ > The preceding sends every email with d, o, v, e, c or t in its subject > into the dovecot folder. In other words, most messages. Heaven help > you if the destination were /dev/null instead: You'd never get them > back. You need to escape the square brackets, as follows: > :0: > * ^Subject.*\[Dovecot\] > .dovecot/ > The preceding sends all messages whose subject contains "[Dovecot]" to > the dovecot folder. And as you probably know, procmail recipes are > case insensitive. For mailing lists being run by any modern listbot (such as this one, but really at least 90% of them) something like the following is much, much better and safer. :0: * ^List-Id: .dovecot/ Also, of course, this will work even for those few blessed lists that don't mangle the subject. And BTW, isn't the point of the Maildir format that is doesn't need locking? So why the second colon in the first line? -- Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages. gpg public key: 2048R/984A8AE4 fingerprint: 7953 ADA1 0E8E AB57 FB79 FFD2 360A 88B2 984A 8AE4 Funny pic: http://bit.ly/ZNE2MX From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Feb 25 13:18:38 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 12:18:38 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2658] CardDav support In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2658 --- Comment #6 from devurandom at gmx.net --- Is anyone working on this? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From John at wexfordpress.com Thu Feb 27 16:03:15 2014 From: John at wexfordpress.com (john Culleton) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 10:03:15 -0500 Subject: [Users] Three questions Message-ID: <20140227100315.7035028a@localb.wexfordpress.net> 1: I have an Inbox folder and a double dozen subordinate folders. When I click on a subordinate folder all messages appear. But for the Inbox folder proper I have to put in a search term (usually just the letter b) to get read messages to be listed. 2: One of my subordinate folders has a red folder icon. The rest are all blue. 3: One of my subordinate folders is marked with a black right triangle icon. The rest aren't. Any explanations? -- John Culleton Wexford Press Free list of books for self-publishers: http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html PDF e-book: "Create Book Covers with Scribus" available at http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Thu Feb 27 16:56:08 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 15:56:08 +0000 Subject: [Users] Three questions In-Reply-To: <20140227100315.7035028a@localb.wexfordpress.net> References: <20140227100315.7035028a@localb.wexfordpress.net> Message-ID: <20140227155608.00006129@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 10:03:15 -0500 john Culleton wrote: > 1: I have an Inbox folder and a double dozen > subordinate folders. When I click on a > subordinate folder all messages appear. But for > the Inbox folder proper I have to put in a > search term (usually just the letter b) to get > read messages to be listed. You have Hide read messages set on the View menu for the inbox > > 2: One of my subordinate folders has a red folder > icon. The rest are all blue. This folder has Hide read messages set on the View menu > > 3: One of my subordinate folders is marked with a > black right triangle icon. The rest aren't. There are further sub-folder below this one, clicking on the black triangle will rotate it and expand the folder tree downwards. -- Brian Morrison From John at wexfordpress.com Thu Feb 27 17:24:35 2014 From: John at wexfordpress.com (john Culleton) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 11:24:35 -0500 Subject: [Users] Three questions In-Reply-To: <20140227155608.00006129@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> References: <20140227100315.7035028a@localb.wexfordpress.net> <20140227155608.00006129@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140227112435.3ba06edd@localb.wexfordpress.net> On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 15:56:08 +0000 Brian Morrison wrote: > On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 10:03:15 -0500 > john Culleton wrote: > > > 1: I have an Inbox folder and a double dozen > > subordinate folders. When I click on a > > subordinate folder all messages appear. But > > for the Inbox folder proper I have to put in a > > search term (usually just the letter b) to get > > read messages to be listed. > > You have Hide read messages set on the View > menu for the inbox > > > > 2: One of my subordinate folders has a red > > folder icon. The rest are all blue. > > This folder has Hide read messages set on the > View menu > > > > > 3: One of my subordinate folders is marked > > with a black right triangle icon. The rest > > aren't. > > There are further sub-folder below this one, > clicking on the black triangle will rotate it > and expand the folder tree downwards. > After 5 minutes of fiddling and fussing I fixed everything. thanks! -- John Culleton Wexford Press Free list of books for self-publishers: http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html PDF e-book: "Create Book Covers with Scribus" available at http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html From slitt at troubleshooters.com Thu Feb 27 18:32:56 2014 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 12:32:56 -0500 Subject: [Users] Tips on how to narrow down a sending problem Message-ID: <20140227123256.3e1aa4f4@mydesk> Hi all, After setting up Claws-Mail on my new Debian Wheezy laptop installation, everything worked except sending. From everything I can see, I have the same smtp server (smtp.gmail.com), port number (465), login (littdom at gmail.com) and password (im not telling) on the notebook as I do on this daily driver I'm typing this on right now, but on the notebook, I always got an error (basically, bad username or password). I even went so far as to follow these instructions: stackoverflow.com/questions/11046135/how-to-send-email-using-simple-smtp-commands-via-gmail I followed the instructions that start with "to send over gmail, you need to use an encrypted connection. this is not possible with telnet alone", using the same smtp server, same login, same password, and same port number, and it worked perfectly. I was able to send email. So my suspicion is that Claws Mail is doing something, that I can't see, to change one of those four things, or else somehow change the essential SSL communication. Can anyone think of any diagnostic tests I can do to further narrow the root cause scope of this problem? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Feb 27 18:57:45 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 17:57:45 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3097] New: crashes when accessing different gmail folders or when deleting messages Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3097 Bug ID: 3097 Summary: crashes when accessing different gmail folders or when deleting messages Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.9.3 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Folders Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: rikrev2012 at gmail.com i am using claws-mail 3.9.3 from Debian testing. my usual crashes happen when trying to move among gmail folders and especially when deleting several messages one by one. (gdb) thread apply all bt Thread 59 (Thread 0x7fff55205700 (LWP 11777)): #0 0x00007ffff1b7095d in poll () at ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S:81 #1 0x00007ffff35d5194 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 #2 0x00007ffff35d529c in g_main_context_iteration () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 #3 0x00007ffff35d52e9 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 #4 0x00007ffff35f91d5 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 #5 0x00007ffff4372e0e in start_thread (arg=0x7fff55205700) at pthread_create.c:311 #6 0x00007ffff1b7c0fd in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:113 Thread 12 (Thread 0x7fff797fa700 (LWP 6469)): #0 pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:185 #1 0x00007fffe448dda3 in JSC::GCThread::waitForNextPhase() () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0.so.0 #2 0x00007fffe448de30 in JSC::GCThread::gcThreadMain() () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0.so.0 #3 0x00007fffe46beca1 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0.so.0 #4 0x00007ffff4372e0e in start_thread (arg=0x7fff797fa700) at pthread_create.c:311 ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Thu Feb 27 19:05:14 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 18:05:14 +0000 Subject: [Users] Tips on how to narrow down a sending problem In-Reply-To: <20140227123256.3e1aa4f4@mydesk> References: <20140227123256.3e1aa4f4@mydesk> Message-ID: <20140227180514.00005bae@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 12:32:56 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > Can anyone think of any diagnostic tests I can do to further narrow > the root cause scope of this problem? Have you tried capturing your network traffic using Wireshark? That ought to help a lot in comparing working and non-working cases. -- Brian Morrison From slitt at troubleshooters.com Thu Feb 27 19:17:43 2014 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 13:17:43 -0500 Subject: [Users] Tips on how to narrow down a sending problem In-Reply-To: <20140227180514.00005bae@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> References: <20140227123256.3e1aa4f4@mydesk> <20140227180514.00005bae@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140227131743.06a6e8ef@mydesk> On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 18:05:14 +0000 Brian Morrison wrote: > On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 12:32:56 -0500 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > Can anyone think of any diagnostic tests I can do to further narrow > > the root cause scope of this problem? > > Have you tried capturing your network traffic using Wireshark? That > ought to help a lot in comparing working and non-working cases. Thanks Brian, I'll reserve Wireshark for a "last resort" type of thing, because I don't know it and think it would take me about 2 days to learn it well enough to use it confidently. I just installed and briefly looked at it, and it looks to me like you have to make some sort of config file before doing anything: You can't just say "wireshark eth0". So if you know of any other diagnostic tests nor requiring knowing a complex tool, I'd like to try those first. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Thu Feb 27 19:24:29 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 18:24:29 +0000 Subject: [Users] Tips on how to narrow down a sending problem In-Reply-To: <20140227131743.06a6e8ef@mydesk> References: <20140227123256.3e1aa4f4@mydesk> <20140227180514.00005bae@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20140227131743.06a6e8ef@mydesk> Message-ID: <20140227182429.0000441d@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 13:17:43 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > I'll reserve Wireshark for a "last resort" type of thing, because I > don't know it and think it would take me about 2 days to learn it well > enough to use it confidently. I just installed and briefly looked at > it, and it looks to me like you have to make some sort of config file > before doing anything: You can't just say "wireshark eth0". On Fedora there is a wireshark-gnome package that gives you a GUI, it's quite easy to then capture stuff and filter it to exclude all the background activity you don't want to see. Does Debian have the same GUI add-on package? -- Brian Morrison From colin at colino.net Thu Feb 27 19:26:33 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 19:26:33 +0100 Subject: [Users] Tips on how to narrow down a sending problem In-Reply-To: <20140227131743.06a6e8ef@mydesk> References: <20140227123256.3e1aa4f4@mydesk> <20140227180514.00005bae@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20140227131743.06a6e8ef@mydesk> Message-ID: Hi, Try claws-mail --debug. Wireshark wouldn't help over SSL anyway :) Fee free to send log excerpts here (passwords don't get printed out) -- Colin Envoyé de mon smartphone ; excusez la brièveté. Sent from my smartphone ; please excuse the brevity. From brad at fineby.me.uk Thu Feb 27 19:45:57 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 18:45:57 +0000 Subject: [Users] Tips on how to narrow down a sending problem In-Reply-To: <20140227123256.3e1aa4f4@mydesk> References: <20140227123256.3e1aa4f4@mydesk> Message-ID: <20140227184557.7787166f@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 12:32:56 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: Hello Steve, >So my suspicion is that Claws Mail is doing something, that I can't >see, to change one of those four things, or else somehow change the >essential SSL communication. I had gmail working here without problems for a number of years. I dumped them a while back, so deleted the settings. However... Start with the (maybe not so) obvious; Is the gmail account 'send' settings set up for SMTP auth? i.e. is it ticked? That tripped me up on a new (not gmail though) account recently. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" If Adolf Hitler flew in today, they'd send a limousine anyway (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais - The Clash -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rol at witbe.net Thu Feb 27 19:49:39 2014 From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=)) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 19:49:39 +0100 Subject: [Users] Tips on how to narrow down a sending problem In-Reply-To: <20140227123256.3e1aa4f4@mydesk> References: <20140227123256.3e1aa4f4@mydesk> Message-ID: <20140227194939.55ab2654@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Hello Steve, On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 12:32:56 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > After setting up Claws-Mail on my new Debian Wheezy laptop > installation, everything worked except sending. From everything I can > see, I have the same smtp server (smtp.gmail.com), port number (465), > login (littdom at gmail.com) and password (im not telling) on the notebook > as I do on this daily driver I'm typing this on right now, but on the > notebook, I always got an error (basically, bad username or password). Just checked my GMAIL config and I was able to send a message to another email account... So, please find below the relevant part of my config : Account > Basic > Server information Protocol : IMAP4 Server for receiving : imap.gmail.com SMTP server (send) : smtp.gmail.com User ID : (my login) Password : (my password) Account > Send x SMTP Authentication (SMTP AUTH) Authentication method : Automatic User ID : (my login) Password : (my password) Account > SSL IMAP4 o Use SSL for IMAP4 connection Send (SMTP) o Use SSL for SMTP connection x Use non-blocking SSL Hope this helps, Paul -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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To test what you are thinking of : openssl s_client -host smtp.gmail.com -port 465 will open an SSL secured connection to the indicated host and port, and allow you a direct SMTP dialog with GMail servers... 119 [19:56] rol at riri.DEF:~> openssl s_client -host smtp.gmail.com -port 465 CONNECTED(00000003) depth=3 C = US, O = Equifax, OU = Equifax Secure Certificate Authority verify return:1 ..... --- 220 mx.google.com ESMTP ff9sm22431038wib.11 - gsmtp EHLO riri.def.witbe.net 250-mx.google.com at your service, [2a01:240:fe1c:0:224:e8ff:fede:5a7b] 250-SIZE 35882577 250-8BITMIME 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN XOAUTH XOAUTH2 PLAIN-CLIENTTOKEN 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250 CHUNKING QUIT DONE ... Paul -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From slitt at troubleshooters.com Thu Feb 27 22:46:44 2014 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 16:46:44 -0500 Subject: [Users] Tips on how to narrow down a sending problem [SOLVED] In-Reply-To: <20140227194939.55ab2654@riri.DEF.witbe.net> References: <20140227123256.3e1aa4f4@mydesk> <20140227194939.55ab2654@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Message-ID: <20140227164644.62844383@mylap4.domain.cxm> On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 19:49:39 +0100 "Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン)" wrote: > Hello Steve, > > On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 12:32:56 -0500 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > After setting up Claws-Mail on my new Debian Wheezy laptop > > installation, everything worked except sending. From everything I > > can see, I have the same smtp server (smtp.gmail.com), port number > > (465), login (littdom at gmail.com) and password (im not telling) on > > the notebook as I do on this daily driver I'm typing this on right > > now, but on the notebook, I always got an error (basically, bad > > username or password). > > Just checked my GMAIL config and I was able to send a message to > another email account... Thanks Paul! Thanks also to Brian, Colin, Brad, and everyone else for their input. The root cause turned out to be... Defective user! This is embarrassing, but in the email address field on the Basic account config tab, I put "Steve Litt at Troubleshooters.Com " instead of just "littdom at gmail.com". Even more embarrassingly, I didn't clearly read the log output, or I would have instantly seen that it wasn't an auth problem, but a syntax error caused by a nonsensical email address. Once I fixed the email address on the Basic tab, sending worked perfectly. The help all of you gave me enabled me to solve this, because you got me back in the "let's narrow it down to the root cause" mentality, rather than my former "WTF is going on!" mentality, enabling me to see the obvious. So thanks to all of you for your help. I hope the laugh you get out of this is a just reward for your efforts in helping me solve it. SteveT From rol at witbe.net Fri Feb 28 08:30:44 2014 From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=)) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 08:30:44 +0100 Subject: [Users] Tips on how to narrow down a sending problem [SOLVED] In-Reply-To: <20140227164644.62844383@mylap4.domain.cxm> References: <20140227123256.3e1aa4f4@mydesk> <20140227194939.55ab2654@riri.DEF.witbe.net> <20140227164644.62844383@mylap4.domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20140228083044.447a5284@riri.DEF.witbe.net> Hi Steve, On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 16:46:44 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > > > After setting up Claws-Mail on my new Debian Wheezy laptop > > > installation, everything worked except sending. From everything I > > > can see, I have the same smtp server (smtp.gmail.com), port number > > > (465), login (littdom at gmail.com) and password (im not telling) on > > > the notebook as I do on this daily driver I'm typing this on right > > > now, but on the notebook, I always got an error (basically, bad > > > username or password). > > > > Just checked my GMAIL config and I was able to send a message to > > another email account... > > Thanks Paul! > > Thanks also to Brian, Colin, Brad, and everyone else for their input. > > The root cause turned out to be... Defective user! That happens... Not the easiest part to fix though, but you did a great job ;) > So thanks to all of you for your help. I hope the laugh you get out of > this is a just reward for your efforts in helping me solve it. No laugh here, just being glad this is now working ! Thx a lot for the feedback ! Paul -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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------=_Part_33_154082288.1393581631098-- ============================================= Should it not be possible to reply in html to an html-only email please? Thanks Sharon. -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk my git repo = https://bitbucket.org/boudiccas/dots Debian testing, Fluxbox 1.3.5, emacs 24.3.50.1 Registered Linux user 561944 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Glad all is sorted. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Drums quite good, bass is too loud, and I can't hear the words Sound Of The Suburbs - Members -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 28 13:39:14 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 12:39:14 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3089] Crash when losing network connection while fetching IMAP data In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3089 --- Comment #2 from Michael Schwendt --- That's likely. Bug 2769 is just the tip of the iceberg though, since it's one way to forcefully go offline and increase the chance of triggering a crash as a side-effect (of some part of the code continueing to use freed memory structures possibly). The alternative (with Network Manager support) is to interrupt the networking connection (e.g. plug a cable or reset the used (W)LAN router). The symptoms of the crash are those of a race-condition and not 100% reproducibly, but they plague various Claws Mail users. See comments in bug 3084 for some more background. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Fri Feb 28 14:03:51 2014 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 10:03:51 -0300 Subject: [Users] RFE - to reply with html when an html-only email is recieved. In-Reply-To: <20140228113406.2ccf6bd8@london> References: <20140228113406.2ccf6bd8@london> Message-ID: <20140228100351.0e755618@ron.cerrocora.org> On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 11:34:06 +0000 Sharon Kimble wrote: > Should it not be possible to reply in html to an html-only email please? I usually reply to such telling them their code is an illegible mess, please mail in plain text. Cheers, Ron. -- I'm going to live forever, or die trying! -- Spider Robinson -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 28 14:51:17 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 13:51:17 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3098] New: Please add support for basic HTTP authentication Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3098 Bug ID: 3098 Summary: Please add support for basic HTTP authentication Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/RSSyl Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: mones at users.sourceforge.net There's feeds which are generated by sites behind a username/password, like Atlassian's Jira in corporate installations. Would be nice that RRRyl could support a username and password in feed properties for sending to the server at retrieval. Thanks in advance, -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 28 14:52:40 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 13:52:40 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3098] Please add support for basic HTTP authentication In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3098 Ricardo Mones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hardware|PC |All OS|Linux |All Severity|normal |enhancement -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From frankly3d at gmail.com Fri Feb 28 15:11:32 2014 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 14:11:32 +0000 Subject: [Users] Have SPAM folder as text always In-Reply-To: <20140210173757.0a4fddf3@thewildbeast> References: <20140209112607.027fbbaf@frank01.frankly3d.home> <20140210173757.0a4fddf3@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140228141132.102b53ad@frank01.frankly3d.home> On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:37:57 +0000 Paul wrote: > On Sun, 9 Feb 2014 11:26:07 +0000 > Frank Murphy wrote: > > > Is there an option for Spam folder as text always, > > no matter the source or account. > > Yes. See the folder Properties, 'General' page. > > with regards > > Paul > > Apologies for delay, But it doesn't work on the following html only emails Have removed my email addy from the paste. Example: http://pastebin.com/ZjM0h2bE ___ Regards Frank frankly3d.com From brad at fineby.me.uk Fri Feb 28 14:37:06 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 13:37:06 +0000 Subject: [Users] RFE - to reply with html when an html-only email is recieved. In-Reply-To: <20140228100351.0e755618@ron.cerrocora.org> References: <20140228113406.2ccf6bd8@london> <20140228100351.0e755618@ron.cerrocora.org> Message-ID: <20140228133706.454e66f5@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 10:03:51 -0300 "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" wrote: Hello Renaud, >I usually reply to such telling them their code is an illegible mess, >please mail in plain text. Whilst all that is true, and I entirely agree with you, more and more companies are forcing this, or similar policies, on their staff. There's simply no way the customer facing staff can send plain text emails any more, it seems. :-( -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Going round on the Circle Line trying to find a way out Titanic (My Over) Reaction - 999 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From brad at fineby.me.uk Fri Feb 28 14:44:25 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 13:44:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] RFE - to reply with html when an html-only email is recieved. In-Reply-To: <20140228113406.2ccf6bd8@london> References: <20140228113406.2ccf6bd8@london> Message-ID: <20140228134425.477d20b8@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 11:34:06 +0000 Sharon Kimble wrote: Hello Sharon, >I've just had the situation where I've had an html-only email received >which stated "This email contains HTML content only. You are currently I too, occasionally, receive HTML only messages, but I *always* reply in plain text. They can read it. Whoever 'they' happen to be. Anyway, it's unlikely in the extreme(1) that the CM team will add the ability to write HTML to CM. (1) When hell freezes over, and probably not even then. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" When I say ugly, I don't mean rough looking, I mean hideous Ugly - The Stranglers -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 28 20:39:33 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 19:39:33 +0000 Subject: [Users] RFE - to reply with html when an html-only email is recieved. In-Reply-To: <20140228134425.477d20b8@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20140228113406.2ccf6bd8@london> <20140228134425.477d20b8@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140228193933.65cdf0dc@thewildbeast> On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 13:44:25 +0000 Brad Rogers wrote: > Anyway, it's unlikely in the extreme(1) that the CM team will add > the ability to write HTML to CM. This is as close as ever it will get! :) with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dan_arico at aricosystems.com Fri Feb 28 20:51:42 2014 From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 14:51:42 -0500 Subject: [Users] RFE - to reply with html when an html-only email is recieved. In-Reply-To: <20140228193933.65cdf0dc@thewildbeast> References: <20140228113406.2ccf6bd8@london> <20140228134425.477d20b8@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140228193933.65cdf0dc@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140228145142.011143cb.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 19:39:33 +0000 Paul wrote: > On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 13:44:25 +0000 > Brad Rogers wrote: > > > Anyway, it's unlikely in the extreme(1) that the CM team will add > > the ability to write HTML to CM. > > This is as close as ever it will get! :) > > with regards > > Paul That's one of the reasons I use CM. The last thing I need is more bloat. Dan -- One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them, One OS to bring them all, and in the Darkness bind them, In the land of Redmond, where the Sales Reps lie. From mir at miras.org Fri Feb 28 21:05:54 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 21:05:54 +0100 Subject: [Users] RFE - to reply with html when an html-only email is recieved. In-Reply-To: <20140228193933.65cdf0dc@thewildbeast> References: <20140228113406.2ccf6bd8@london> <20140228134425.477d20b8@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140228193933.65cdf0dc@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140228210554.3f77cee1@sleipner.datanom.net> On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 19:39:33 +0000 Paul wrote: > > This is as close as ever it will get! :) > The day I can retire living solely on my fat pension from the claws-mail project is the day I will consider adding support for creating HTML mails in claws-mail;-) The statistical probability for the above statement is properly on par with the day to end all wars, solving the poverty problem in the world, and the day when the director of the NSA swear they will never spy on any human being any more, and actually mean it! -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: The idle mind knows not what it is it wants. -- Quintus Ennius -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Parent is an oldest reply of all replies. You can see the diff on github here: https://github.com/SpOOnman/claws/compare/master...threading I also attach an updated patch. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Feb 28 23:52:24 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 22:52:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2258] Make threading more robust In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2258 --- Comment #2 from Tomasz Kalkosiński --- Created attachment 1335 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1335&action=edit Support threading messages with no direct parent in mbox -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.