From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Dec 1 04:00:15 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 03:00:15 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3340] New: "General Assuan error" on signed email checking Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3340 Bug ID: 3340 Summary: "General Assuan error" on signed email checking Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.11.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Other Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: shalnoff at openmailbox.org I've got signed email that I've trying to check for validity by clicking on the red icon (buttom of the window). It informs me that "The signature can't be checked - General Assuan error" Error checking signature: General Assuan error the signature is in smime.p7s format. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From itz at buug.org Mon Dec 1 07:16:18 2014 From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 22:16:18 -0800 Subject: [Users] [SOLVED] Claws slowing down, help? In-Reply-To: <20141130122056.28f7a508.itz@buug.org> References: <20141130104456.43ac03ed.itz@buug.org> <20141130190830.GA13666@trasgu> <20141130122056.28f7a508.itz@buug.org> Message-ID: <20141130221618.04339efa.itz@buug.org> On Sun, 30 Nov 2014 12:20:56 -0800, Ian Zimmerman wrote: Ian> I'll run with debug on, all right. But how could it be a server Ian> issue, given the log above? I nailed it, it was the libravatar plugin. Had tcpdump filtered to the IMAP ports, so missed that at the time. This is what happens when I get seduced by nice pictures :) Would it be possible to put a timeout on the avatar retrieval? -- Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages. Rule 420: All persons more than eight miles high to leave the court. Local Variables: mode:claws-external End: From list at eworm.de Mon Dec 1 08:07:31 2014 From: list at eworm.de (Christian Hesse) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 08:07:31 +0100 Subject: [Users] [SOLVED] Claws slowing down, help? In-Reply-To: <20141130221618.04339efa.itz@buug.org> References: <20141130104456.43ac03ed.itz@buug.org> <20141130190830.GA13666@trasgu> <20141130122056.28f7a508.itz@buug.org> <20141130221618.04339efa.itz@buug.org> Message-ID: <20141201080731.3bb8012f@leda.localdomain> Ian Zimmerman on Sun, 2014/11/30 22:16: > On Sun, 30 Nov 2014 12:20:56 -0800, > Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > Ian> I'll run with debug on, all right. But how could it be a server > Ian> issue, given the log above? > > I nailed it, it was the libravatar plugin. Had tcpdump filtered to the > IMAP ports, so missed that at the time. > > This is what happens when I get seduced by nice pictures :) > > Would it be possible to put a timeout on the avatar retrieval? I suffered the same issue, so introduced a timeout for libravatar. This is included in CM 3.11.0. Just look at the plugin's preferences. -- main(a){char*c=/* Schoene Gruesse */"B?IJj;MEH" "CX:;",b;for(a/* Chris get my mail address: */=0;b=c[a++];) putchar(b-1/(/* gcc -o sig sig.c && ./sig */b/42*2-3)*42);} -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 473 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From 00136.01-clawsml1-ml01.dbes1 at digitalrelief.com Mon Dec 1 09:06:20 2014 From: 00136.01-clawsml1-ml01.dbes1 at digitalrelief.com ([dbes1] claws mail ml account) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 02:06:20 -0600 Subject: [Users] identities and sending email Message-ID: <25744bfe71a8e15dcb4d786d05f40e48@webmail.webfaction.com> Win7 SP1 64-bit Claws Mail 3.10.1 Hi All, I created a second account with the protocol set to "None (SMTP only)" for the purpose of creating an identity. When I attempt to send mail from this identity an "SSL handshake failed" error is returned. The identity I created references an alias on a different server. I used SMTP credentials from a different full-fledged email account to populate the SMTP details of the 'SMTP only' account. Should this work? Or do 'SMTP only' accounts expect SMTP authentication to occur using the listed "Mail address". I hope that makes sense. If not please ask me to clarify. Thanks! david From rostedt at goodmis.org Mon Dec 1 19:35:51 2014 From: rostedt at goodmis.org (Steven Rostedt) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 13:35:51 -0500 Subject: [Users] BUG with update marking all email as "read" Message-ID: <20141201133551.0a36768e@gandalf.local.home> Anyone else have this issue? This happens to me quite often, although I know ways of avoiding it (mostly). When I either "Get Mail" or switch folders which does a get mail, every so often, all email (but the new ones coming in) get marked as "read". This gets quite annoying since I use "unread" for email I want to look at again in the near future. Now, as I get an average of 100 emails a day in my INBOX (this does not count folders), and I currently have 25,940 emails in my INBOX where 3217 of them are unread, I really need the email to stay unread, until I say that it's read. I've come to the point where I need to backup my email to a separate file every hour or so, such that when they all get marked as read, I can do a diff -u on it and patch my INBOX to put back the messages that were read. Of course, I lose read and deleted marks for email that was within that hour. I'm using claws-mail 3.11.1, but this has been happening for some time, which means this is not a new bug. Here's my setup: I use fetchmail/procmail to pull down my email from my ISP and place them into folders. I use dovecot as a local IMAP server on my LAN to read my email from all my clients. The bug happens when mail is being fetched on the server and claws-mail decides to update a folder. I noticed that when this happens, all email becomes "read" except the new email, but the folder still says there's "unread" messages. Then there's a pause, and the folder updates to only "unread" of the new email. I turned off auto update, although if you switch folders, when you enter a new one, it does the update. If I disable fetchmail from pulling down new email, I can switch folders all I want and there's no issue. There's some kind of race between the claws update and the pulling of new email in dovecot. This only happens with claws-mail. I can read my email from evolution, k-9, mutt, and alpine all fine. But claws-mail has the tendency of flagging everything as unread. When I was able to tame my email and keep my INBOX down to 6000 emails or less, I did not have this problem. I'm guessing that the 25000 emails I have is opening up a race window. I downloaded the source, and if I get time I'll see if I can find the bug myself, but if anyone else has any ideas, it would be much appreciated. Thanks! -- Steve From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Dec 1 20:08:53 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 19:08:53 +0000 Subject: [Users] BUG with update marking all email as "read" In-Reply-To: <20141201133551.0a36768e@gandalf.local.home> References: <20141201133551.0a36768e@gandalf.local.home> Message-ID: <20141201190853.04e66c53@thewildbeast> It is unlikely to be a bug, as you seem to be the only one affected by it. It's more likely to be something particular to your set-up. You probably have a filtering or processing rule. If you're sure that you don't then you need to supply some debug info (claws-mail --debug). with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From andrej at kacian.sk Mon Dec 1 23:33:13 2014 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 23:33:13 +0100 Subject: [Users] identities and sending email In-Reply-To: <25744bfe71a8e15dcb4d786d05f40e48@webmail.webfaction.com> References: <25744bfe71a8e15dcb4d786d05f40e48@webmail.webfaction.com> Message-ID: <20141201233313.0d396237@penny> On Mon, 01 Dec 2014 02:06:20 -0600 "[dbes1] claws mail ml account" <00136.01-clawsml1-ml01.dbes1 at digitalrelief.com> wrote: > The identity I created references an alias on a different server. I > used SMTP credentials from a different full-fledged email account to > populate the SMTP details of the 'SMTP only' account. Should this > work? Or do 'SMTP only' accounts expect SMTP authentication to occur > using the listed "Mail address". Hi, the SMTP authentication will always use username + password you enter in the account preferences (those on Send page, or those on Basic page, if the former are left empty). Mailing address does not come into play at all during SMTP authentication, as far as I can remember. Regards, -- Andrej From subscript at free.fr Tue Dec 2 09:36:22 2014 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 09:36:22 +0100 Subject: [Users] identities and sending email In-Reply-To: <20141201233313.0d396237@penny> References: <25744bfe71a8e15dcb4d786d05f40e48@webmail.webfaction.com> <20141201233313.0d396237@penny> Message-ID: <20141202093622.41d40451@anthra> Hello, On Mon, 1 Dec 2014 23:33:13 +0100 Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Mon, 01 Dec 2014 02:06:20 -0600 > "[dbes1] claws mail ml account" > <00136.01-clawsml1-ml01.dbes1 at digitalrelief.com> wrote: > > > The identity I created references an alias on a different server. I > > used SMTP credentials from a different full-fledged email account to > > populate the SMTP details of the 'SMTP only' account. Should this > > work? Or do 'SMTP only' accounts expect SMTP authentication to occur > > using the listed "Mail address". > > Hi, the SMTP authentication will always use username + password you > enter in the account preferences (those on Send page, or those on Basic > page, if the former are left empty). > > Mailing address does not come into play at all during SMTP > authentication, as far as I can remember. Well, you remember right, SMTP AUTH is based upon userID/password. Some SMTP servers (nowadays: most of them) don't accept relaying of emails sent using a domain which is not the smtp one. Usually, the SMTP AUTH overrides this behaviour. Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From rostedt at goodmis.org Tue Dec 2 16:23:27 2014 From: rostedt at goodmis.org (Steven Rostedt) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 10:23:27 -0500 Subject: [Users] BUG with update marking all email as "read" In-Reply-To: <20141201190853.04e66c53@thewildbeast> References: <20141201133551.0a36768e@gandalf.local.home> <20141201190853.04e66c53@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20141202102327.2327730d@gandalf.local.home> On Mon, 1 Dec 2014 19:08:53 +0000 Paul wrote: > It is unlikely to be a bug, as you seem to be the only one affected > by it. It's more likely to be something particular to your set-up. Actually, the guy I Cc'd had the exact same issue. It may only affect those with 25000 or more emails in their INBOX. I don't know if he has that many too. Although, I do have one filter rule that I use for when I need to extract patches from my email. I hit Ctrl-F to execute the filter on the selected email that saves the file and runs an awk script to remove all the email gobbly gook and make it into a real patch, and scp's it to my work machine. From the "Configuration -> Filtering..." menu: Name: apply-patch Account: All Condition: all Action: execute "/home/rostedt/bin/scp-to-fedora.sh <%F" Where my script "scp-to-fedora.sh" runs the awk script and scp's the file to my fedora box. But when the bug happens, I don't see anything being copied over. > > You probably have a filtering or processing rule. > If you're sure that you don't then you need to supply some debug info > (claws-mail --debug). OK, I'll run the --debug when I get a chance. And maybe I'll purposely trigger this bug. Thanks for the advice. Off-topic: I take it that the policy on this mailing list is to strip Cc's and only reply to the list? I wonder why that is preferred. Do people really read all emails on the list to see if any of the emails applies to them? I'm subscribed to 15 lists and can barely get through the emails that are sent to me directly that I need to look at, that I have no time to read the lists I'm subscribed to. I read them maybe once a month. The only reason that I saw this email was because I remembered that I sent a message to the list ;-) -- Steve From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com Tue Dec 2 17:59:59 2014 From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 17:59:59 +0100 Subject: [Users] OT: BUG with update marking all email as "read" In-Reply-To: <20141202102327.2327730d@gandalf.local.home> References: <20141201133551.0a36768e@gandalf.local.home> <20141201190853.04e66c53@thewildbeast> <20141202102327.2327730d@gandalf.local.home> Message-ID: <20141202175959.7d0f0fb1@archlinux> On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 10:23:27 -0500 Steven Rostedt wrote: > Off-topic: I take it that the policy on this mailing list is to strip > Cc's and only reply to the list? I wonder why that is preferred. Because it's annoying to receive duplicated emails. > Do people really read all emails on the list to see if any of the > emails applies to them? No, not everybody is reading all mails, but we hope that the thread is kept, when people reply or that at least the subject line is kept, so there's no need to read all threads, to realise replies to threads we want to read. Claws has two features to inform us, by just taking a look at the folders, a little red dot and an exclamation mark in in parentheses. I don't sort by thread, I sort by date and Claws anyway informs me about threads I follow. > I'm subscribed to 15 lists and can barely get through the emails that > are sent to me directly that I need to look at, that I have no time > to read the lists I'm subscribed to. I read them maybe once a month. > The only reason that I saw this email was because I remembered that I > sent a message to the list ;-) Improve your workflow ;)! I guess there's a reason that we use MUAs ;). From jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com Thu Dec 4 13:44:42 2014 From: jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com (Jeremy Schneider) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 07:44:42 -0500 Subject: [Users] OT: BUG with update marking all email as "read" In-Reply-To: <20141202175959.7d0f0fb1@archlinux> References: <20141201133551.0a36768e@gandalf.local.home> <20141201190853.04e66c53@thewildbeast> <20141202102327.2327730d@gandalf.local.home> <20141202175959.7d0f0fb1@archlinux> Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 10:23:27 -0500 Steven Rostedt wrote: >> Off-topic: I take it that the policy on this mailing list is to strip >> Cc's and only reply to the list? I wonder why that is preferred. > > Because it's annoying to receive duplicated emails. really? mailman sends a duplicate message if a list member is in the to or cc field? i'm on a number of other lists, the standard practice on the other lists i participate in is to leave email addresses in the to/cc fields. i never noticed receiving duplicate emails before. also, i very much prefer that practice. i use IMAP (to support multiple clients) and i have server-side rules which move list mails into designated folders. however if i'm in the to or cc field then my server-side rules leave the email in my inbox so that i'm sure to see it quickly, without having to open the mailing list folder (which i don't do every day). come to think if it, i remember an instance on this list some time ago where i didn't see a reply to my message until a month after it was sent. -Jeremy -- http://about.me/jeremy_schneider From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com Thu Dec 4 14:22:57 2014 From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 14:22:57 +0100 Subject: [Users] Mailing list reply with and without Cc Message-ID: <20141204142257.35fe2a33@archlinux> Hi, "Reply button invokes mailing list reply" is enabled, but sometimes replies anyway add a Cc address. Likely it's the fault of the sender, regarding to a "Reply-To" header entry. Perhaps this could be considered as a feature, since some mailing lists want Cc'ed mails. IOW that's not an issue for me. Anyway, I'm subscribed to many mailing lists were Cc'ing is unwanted, but for at least one open mailing lists (FreeBSD questions), Cc'ing is wanted. Is there a way to automatically enable Cc'ing for those lists, even if the OPs don't add a "Reply-To" entry, while for other mailing lists replies are only send to the list? I tested folder properties "Default Cc: %f", but that doesn't work. Regards, Ralf From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com Thu Dec 4 14:37:41 2014 From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 14:37:41 +0100 Subject: [Users] OT: BUG with update marking all email as "read" In-Reply-To: References: <20141201133551.0a36768e@gandalf.local.home> <20141201190853.04e66c53@thewildbeast> <20141202102327.2327730d@gandalf.local.home> <20141202175959.7d0f0fb1@archlinux> Message-ID: <20141204143741.2e7b6c76@archlinux> On Thu, 4 Dec 2014 07:44:42 -0500, Jeremy Schneider wrote: > really? mailman sends a duplicate message if a list member is in the > to or cc field? There's a mailman option to disable duplicated mails, but IIRC that could cause issues too. Mailman just sends one message, the duplicated message is the Cc'ed one, directly send by the sender. Not all mailing lists share the same CoC, that's why I sent my "Mailing list reply with and without Cc" request to this list [1]. Most mailing lists don't want Cc'ed mails and they added a link to the CoC to the mailing list page, e.g. https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users mentions "Please read community.ubuntu.com/contribute/support/mailinglists/ about mailing etiquette." Regards, Ralf [1] not in the archive yet http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2014-December/date.html From barry at python.org Thu Dec 4 16:09:22 2014 From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 10:09:22 -0500 Subject: [Users] OT: BUG with update marking all email as "read" References: <20141201133551.0a36768e@gandalf.local.home> <20141201190853.04e66c53@thewildbeast> <20141202102327.2327730d@gandalf.local.home> <20141202175959.7d0f0fb1@archlinux> <20141204143741.2e7b6c76@archlinux> Message-ID: <20141204100922.52e45b88@anarchist.wooz.org> On Dec 04, 2014, at 02:37 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Thu, 4 Dec 2014 07:44:42 -0500, Jeremy Schneider wrote: >> really? mailman sends a duplicate message if a list member is in the >> to or cc field? > >There's a mailman option to disable duplicated mails, but IIRC that >could cause issues too. Mailman just sends one message, the duplicated >message is the Cc'ed one, directly send by the sender. Not all mailing >lists share the same CoC, that's why I sent my "Mailing list reply with >and without Cc" request to this list [1]. If I reply to your list post and it includes the CC header, the only thing Mailman can do is suppress the list copy. It can't suppress the direct copy (sent to you via the CC) because it never sees it. An MUA like Claws could conceivably suppress the direct copy but that's difficult because it can't actually know that you'll receive the list copy. Yes, you can opt into suppression of the list copy but the problem with that is that you won't get the List-* headers, so the copy you get won't look like a mailing list post, and thus many of the nice features in Claws for dealing with mailing list posts won't work. That's the trade-off, and why it's left as a user-selectable option. Personally, I usually leave the list copy option turned on, but I disable delivery, and I read the claws list (and frankly, most of the public discussion lists I'm on) via Gmane. 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Occasionally, when I mark a message for deletion (Move to Trash, Ctrl-D) and then Tools->Execute, the message doesn't actually go anywhere. No matter how many times I Execute, the message just stays in my Inbox folder. I know it's still there because I can see it in other MUAs that talk to the same IMAP server. If I visit a different folder, or a newsgroup, Claws will notice that the deleted message hasn't been moved to trash and it will prompt me to take this action, but even if I do, the message doesn't get moved. However, if I Unmark (U) the message, and then re-delete it, then execute, it usually gets moved to Trash this time. It doesn't happen to all messages, and I've yet to recognize the pattern for which messages do get deleted (the majority) and those that don't (the minority). I don't yet have a reproducible test case. "Move deleted mails to trash and expunge immediately" is set, but I think I've had this set for forever and Claws still seems to DWIM, namely ctrl-D marks the message for deletion until I explicitly Execute. It's certainly worked this way (without the problem described herein) with 3.10 and for a long while before that (going back at least to 3.8). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Dec 4 17:34:23 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 16:34:23 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3342] New: "Automatically accept unknown valid SSL certificates" is unfortunate wording Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3342 Bug ID: 3342 Summary: "Automatically accept unknown valid SSL certificates" is unfortunate wording Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.11.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: darix at nordisch.org Please remove the "unknown" from the string. The current wording could lead to the impression that it would accept all unknown certificates, depending on what people are seeing as the definition for valid. An even better wording might be: "Automatically accept certificates validated via SSL system store" -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Dec 4 17:38:45 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 16:38:45 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3343] New: Accept certificate should have a noticable difference for certificates matching with a CA and unknown CA or other error cases Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3343 Bug ID: 3343 Summary: Accept certificate should have a noticable difference for certificates matching with a CA and unknown CA or other error cases Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.11.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: darix at nordisch.org Maybe something like a green check mark in the top corner of the dialog and a wording like "The certificate was validated with the system CA store, but your settings indicate you want to review unkown/changed certificates." For the other case it could use something like a stop sign and a description Why you bring up the certificate to verification (unknown CA/expired/mismatch between hostname and hostnames in certificate...) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Dec 4 17:42:00 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 16:42:00 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3344] New: Password dialog should indicate if the connection is/will be secure Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3344 Bug ID: 3344 Summary: Password dialog should indicate if the connection is/will be secure Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.11.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: darix at nordisch.org as the summary says it would be nice to have an indication there. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From brad at fineby.me.uk Thu Dec 4 19:32:43 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 18:32:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] OT: BUG with update marking all email as "read" In-Reply-To: References: <20141201133551.0a36768e@gandalf.local.home> <20141201190853.04e66c53@thewildbeast> <20141202102327.2327730d@gandalf.local.home> <20141202175959.7d0f0fb1@archlinux> Message-ID: <20141204183243.0f98093d@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Thu, 4 Dec 2014 07:44:42 -0500 Jeremy Schneider wrote: Hello Jeremy, >really? mailman sends a duplicate message if a list member is in the >to or cc field? It can be configured not to. Although that's a user's preference. And as Barry says, it can cause all sort of issues for the unaware. >very much prefer that practice. i use IMAP (to support multiple IMO, sending me a message twice (once privately, and once via an ML) appears like the act of a deranged mind. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Only the wounded remain, the generals have all left the game Generals - The Damned -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 473 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Dec 4 22:06:41 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 21:06:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3344] Password dialog should indicate if the connection is/will be secure In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3344 --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones --- User has already configured the account, already knows if it's using a secure connection or not. Will you stop typing your password if you have one server which is not secure? Why did you configure it then? :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 5 01:00:36 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 00:00:36 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3338] Claws Mail 3.11.1-34 core dumps if RSSyl is loaded In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3338 --- Comment #8 from Michael Hughes --- Is there anything else that I can do to help fix this problem? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From ricardo at mones.org Fri Dec 5 01:14:37 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 01:14:37 +0100 Subject: [Users] Completely deleting emails In-Reply-To: <20141102224006.6c864d26@rbits.ch> References: <20141017160727.22f9c38c@marjoriebubble-MXC061> <20141017164912.52748741@thewildbeast> <20141018092754.5e13bf21@marjoriebubble-MXC061> <20141018103445.0f0cebfa@mike> <20141102224006.6c864d26@rbits.ch> Message-ID: <20141205011437.7b6bd56f@busgosu> On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 22:40:06 +0100 Roman Brusa wrote: > >It will even use shred on every file deletion, be it emails, temporary > >configuration files or temporary MIME parts, everything. […] > > Maybe there should be a warning that a particualar type of searches gets > (almost) unusable by using this option...? FYI, option's hint already warns about slowness and reading shred manpage. -- Ricardo Mones ~ bash: ./signature: No such file or directory /bin/bash -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In Claws 3.11, once I get to the Header tab, down arrow no longer flips through the From addresses. Instead it moves to the next field, exactly as TAB already does. There doesn't seem to be any way to select from multiple From values via the keyboard. Please restore this valuable shortcut! Claws 3.11.1 on Ubuntu 15.04 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com Fri Dec 5 01:29:29 2014 From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 01:29:29 +0100 Subject: [Users] Completely deleting emails In-Reply-To: <20141205011437.7b6bd56f@busgosu> References: <20141017160727.22f9c38c@marjoriebubble-MXC061> <20141017164912.52748741@thewildbeast> <20141018092754.5e13bf21@marjoriebubble-MXC061> <20141018103445.0f0cebfa@mike> <20141102224006.6c864d26@rbits.ch> <20141205011437.7b6bd56f@busgosu> Message-ID: <20141205012929.23951827@archlinux> On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 01:14:37 +0100, Ricardo Mones wrote: > On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 22:40:06 +0100 > Roman Brusa wrote: > > > >It will even use shred on every file deletion, be it emails, > > >temporary configuration files or temporary MIME parts, everything. > […] > > > > Maybe there should be a warning that a particualar type of searches > > gets (almost) unusable by using this option...? > > FYI, option's hint already warns about slowness and reading shred > manpage. Shred isn't more effective than rm is. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/913282/shred-doesnt-work-on-journaled-fs OTOH sometimes I rm dirs and files, after that directly mounted the drive read only, but anyway couldn't restore the removed files. IOW even rm could be very effective. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 5 03:57:04 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 02:57:04 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3346] New: Contact merging Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3346 Bug ID: 3346 Summary: Contact merging Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: UI/Address Book Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: cel at celehner.com Created attachment 1454 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1454&action=edit [patch] Add contact merging feature in address book This patch adds a simple contact merging operation, to help users with merging contacts by hand in the address book. With multiple contacts selected, "Merge" can be chosen from the pop-up menu or Edit menu. Then the selected emails or persons will be combined into one entry with their attributes combined. Currently the names and photos of persons other than the first selected person are lost in the merge, as only the emails and attributes are moved. More logic could be added to allow the user to choose which name and photo to keep for the contact. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 5 09:15:07 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 08:15:07 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3346] Contact merging In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3346 --- Comment #1 from Paul --- Seems a good idea but is unfortunate that it discards information. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 5 14:22:49 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 13:22:49 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3347] New: allow re-edit sent messages in folders with "save copy of outgoing messages to this folder instead of sent" Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3347 Bug ID: 3347 Summary: allow re-edit sent messages in folders with "save copy of outgoing messages to this folder instead of sent" Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: Folders Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: pf at pfortin.com [previously asked on mailing list 08/19/14; but got no response] Sent messages saved in a folder can't be re-edited as they can when left in the real "Sent" folder. Sent messages saved in another folder are identifiable as being "sent" messages, so why not treat these the same way as though they were in the Sent folder? After all, they are there because of the setting "save copy of outgoing messages to this folder instead of sent". -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From pf at pfortin.com Fri Dec 5 15:47:16 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (pf at pfortin.com) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 09:47:16 -0500 Subject: [Users] folderitemrc bug? Message-ID: <20141205094716.65f22f17@pfortin.com> Hi guys, Been using SC/CM since 2001 (2 instances), so I have no idea how/when this happened... I was just checking how many folders I have with: $ ll -R | grep drwx | wc ==> instance 1: 383; instance 2: 147 Then, I did: $ grep "save_copy_to_folder=1" folderitemrc | wc ==> instance 1: 600; instance 2: 55 600?!! Obviously, something doesn't jibe here... So, how many folder items in folderitemrc? $ grep "\[#mh" folderitemrc | wc ==> instance 1: 1773; instance 2: 193 Summary: 383 actual folders v. 1773 (600 save here) 147 actual folders v. 193 ( 55 save here) Anyone else seeing this kind of issue? Pierre From jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com Fri Dec 5 19:35:26 2014 From: jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com (Jeremy Schneider) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 13:35:26 -0500 Subject: [Users] OT: BUG with update marking all email as "read" In-Reply-To: <20141204183243.0f98093d@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20141201133551.0a36768e@gandalf.local.home> <20141201190853.04e66c53@thewildbeast> <20141202102327.2327730d@gandalf.local.home> <20141202175959.7d0f0fb1@archlinux> <20141204183243.0f98093d@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: >>really? mailman sends a duplicate message if a list member is in the >>to or cc field? > > It can be configured not to. Although that's a user's preference. And > as Barry says, it can cause all sort of issues for the unaware. I use IMAP and I've got gmail for the backend. I bet gmail is removing the duplicate email. I just never noticed before. >>very much prefer that practice. i use IMAP (to support multiple > > IMO, sending me a message twice (once privately, and once via an ML) > appears like the act of a deranged mind. IMHO it seems reasonable if I intend the message to land in someone's inbox; I would assume that most people filter mailing list messages out of their inbox. That said, after looking around a little bit, I didn't realize that it was widely accepted etiquette to reply on list only. Ralf's link to the ubuntu guidelines were a helpful starting point - thanks. -- http://about.me/jeremy_schneider From jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com Fri Dec 5 19:40:29 2014 From: jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com (Jeremy Schneider) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 13:40:29 -0500 Subject: [Users] OT: BUG with update marking all email as "read" In-Reply-To: References: <20141201133551.0a36768e@gandalf.local.home> <20141201190853.04e66c53@thewildbeast> <20141202102327.2327730d@gandalf.local.home> <20141202175959.7d0f0fb1@archlinux> <20141204183243.0f98093d@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Jeremy Schneider wrote: > That said, after looking around a little bit, I > didn't realize that it was widely accepted etiquette to reply on list > only. And in that very reply I mistakenly CC'd Brad! At the moment I'm using the gmail web interface, and it does not have a reply-to-list feature. :) -J -- http://about.me/jeremy_schneider From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com Fri Dec 5 19:49:45 2014 From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 19:49:45 +0100 Subject: [Users] OT: BUG with update marking all email as "read" In-Reply-To: References: <20141201133551.0a36768e@gandalf.local.home> <20141201190853.04e66c53@thewildbeast> <20141202102327.2327730d@gandalf.local.home> <20141202175959.7d0f0fb1@archlinux> <20141204183243.0f98093d@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20141205194945.4b13cab4@archlinux> On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 13:35:26 -0500, Jeremy Schneider wrote: > I bet gmail is removing the duplicate email. Within two weeks on 2 mailing list people are pissed off because gmail does this. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2014-December/262721.html > Ralf's link to the ubuntu guidelines were a helpful starting point - > thanks. You're welcome! From gheskett at wdtv.com Fri Dec 5 20:54:15 2014 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 14:54:15 -0500 Subject: [Users] OT: BUG with update marking all email as "read" In-Reply-To: <20141205194945.4b13cab4@archlinux> References: <20141201133551.0a36768e@gandalf.local.home> <20141205194945.4b13cab4@archlinux> Message-ID: <201412051454.15680.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Friday 05 December 2014 13:49:45 Ralf Mardorf did opine And Gene did reply: > On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 13:35:26 -0500, Jeremy Schneider wrote: > > I bet gmail is removing the duplicate email. > > Within two weeks on 2 mailing list people are pissed off because gmail > does this. > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2014-December/2627 > 21.html > > > Ralf's link to the ubuntu guidelines were a helpful starting point - > > thanks. > > You're welcome! I have no clue why this is news. Google has never returned one of your own emails to you, ever. To their software, its a duplicate, and your subbed address will be deleted before sending the msg back out to YOU. And bitching about it to google is ignored, to them the duplicate control over rides what the user wants and they will not entertain a discussion about it. BTDT, which is one of the reasons that while I have an account at gmail, had it since a month or so after the launch of the service, it might get used once a week when kmail ignores my sticky checkmarks on all that stuff. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS From barry at python.org Fri Dec 5 21:03:29 2014 From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 15:03:29 -0500 Subject: [Users] OT: BUG with update marking all email as "read" References: <20141201133551.0a36768e@gandalf.local.home> <20141201190853.04e66c53@thewildbeast> <20141202102327.2327730d@gandalf.local.home> <20141202175959.7d0f0fb1@archlinux> <20141204183243.0f98093d@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20141205150329.7faab41c@anarchist.wooz.org> On Dec 05, 2014, at 01:35 PM, Jeremy Schneider wrote: >I use IMAP and I've got gmail for the backend. I bet gmail is >removing the duplicate email. I just never noticed before. This is probably the well-known "helpful Gmail" FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/2IA9 Cheers, -Barry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Dec 6 17:24:02 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 16:24:02 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3348] New: Contact pictures not deleted when contact is deleted Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3348 Bug ID: 3348 Summary: Contact pictures not deleted when contact is deleted Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: minor Priority: P3 Component: UI/Address Book Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: cel at celehner.com Created attachment 1455 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1455&action=edit [patch] Fix contact picture filename retrieval When a person is deleted from the address book, if they have a picture it remains in the addrbook directory. This is because addritem_person_get_picture doesn't return the full filename of a person's picture, but addressbook_del_clicked expects it does. This patch makes addritem_person_get_picture return the full filename so that the picture is found in its actual location and deleted successfully when the contact is deleted. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From wa178492 at tesco.net Sat Dec 6 18:11:15 2014 From: wa178492 at tesco.net (GM) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 17:11:15 +0000 Subject: [Users] Updating Claws Mail Message-ID: <548338B3.5060603@tesco.net> Hello everyone, my first post. I read the recent thread about Claws Mail and Windows with much interest and I agree with your stance. However, I think you should bear in mind that there are potential Linux users who have come from Windows. For many of these (myself included) an installation via a ppa is much to be preferred. I came to Claws Mail in September via Synaptic and I am still running version 3.9.3. This is because in Synaptic it is still the current version. Surprising, in view of the important changes for security reasons! So, could you please keep Synaptic up to date? Further points. If I attempt to upgrade by using the 3.11.1,tar.bzz, should I first remove the older version? And the installation notes say that I need gtk-devel and glib-devel "or equivalent". I could not find the two named packages on Synaptic and as for "equivalent" I have no idea. Help! I assume I should proceed as follows, once the packages have been located: Download (the first or the second on the list? - I am running Linux Mint 17 MATE) Extract ./configure make su enter password make install then % claws-mail Do I need to run sudo apt-get build-dep claws-mail (and if so, when?) Will the above steps provide a Desktop short-cut? Thank you From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Dec 6 19:38:10 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 18:38:10 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3348] Contact pictures not deleted when contact is deleted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3348 --- Comment #1 from wwp --- Correct, but.. do we really want the picture (potentially a - imported - external resource) to be erased as well? Maybe we should ask first. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From mir at miras.org Sat Dec 6 19:41:44 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 19:41:44 +0100 Subject: [Users] Updating Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <548338B3.5060603@tesco.net> References: <548338B3.5060603@tesco.net> Message-ID: <20141206194144.4a1e0fe6@sleipner.datanom.net> On Sat, 06 Dec 2014 17:11:15 +0000 GM wrote: > > Download (the first or the second on the list? - I am running Linux Mint 17 MATE) If you are running Linux Mint 17 all you need to do to always have latest release is: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:claws-mail/ppa sudo apt-get update After doing the above start Synaptic an choose status. You should see claws listed with a possibility to upgrade to version 3.11.1 -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: No house is childproofed unless the little darlings are in straitjackets. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Dec 6 19:44:35 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 18:44:35 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3348] Contact pictures not deleted when contact is deleted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3348 --- Comment #2 from Charles Lehner --- (In reply to comment #1) > Correct, but.. do we really want the picture (potentially a - imported - > external resource) to be erased as well? Maybe we should ask first. When the picture is imported, it is resized and copied into .claws-mail/addrbook, so it is Claws's copy of the image, not the original. So I think it's safe to delete the picture if the user wants to delete the contact. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Dec 6 19:49:33 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 18:49:33 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3348] Contact pictures not deleted when contact is deleted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3348 --- Comment #3 from wwp --- Yes, but we should also check that no other AB item uses the picture. (XMl edited intentionnally may have several contacts point to the same image resource) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com Sat Dec 6 19:51:17 2014 From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 19:51:17 +0100 Subject: [Users] Updating Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <548338B3.5060603@tesco.net> References: <548338B3.5060603@tesco.net> Message-ID: <20141206195117.1a3f8f12@archlinux> On Sat, 06 Dec 2014 17:11:15 +0000, GM wrote: > So, could you please keep Synaptic up to date? Synaptic is a GUI for apt and rpm. The package management apt does use repositories provided by the distro you're using and/or third party repositories. Upstream seldom provides packages or repositories for distros. You should ask your distro for upgrades, but since Mint is a release model based distro, you unlikely will have success with such a request. A PPA or a backports repository might provide what you want. Btw. it's not that smart to chose a freakish distro based on Ubuntu or Debian that has got no huge community. Usually Mint users annoy *buntu and Debian mailing lists. I strongly recommend to drop Mint and to switch to a *buntu or Debian, if you like the *buntu/Debian policy. > 3.11.1,tar.bzz, should I first remove the older version? Yes, before a "make install" purge the installed Claws. > ./configure > make > su > make install JFTR there are several easy ways to build an Ubuntu/Debian package. The easiest way for a newbie perhaps is to use checkinstall, available by the repos used by Synaptic. IOW instead of "make install" type "checkinstall" and follow the instructions. Checkinstall doesn't work always, but it does work most of the times. Then install the build package using "dpkg -i". > % claws-mail > > Do I need to run sudo apt-get build-dep claws-mail This should be the first command, but it does only work, if the dependencies needed by the tarball's version of Claws didn't change the dependencies, compared to the version provided by your distro. I would manually select and install the needed dev packages. The Dependencies are likely mentioned by a README or INFO or INSTALL or similar file inside of the tarball or at the website from where you downloaded it. Assumed ./configure didn't fail, then you already have got all dependencies installed. JFTR, assumed you compiled and installed libraries, then you need to run "ldconfig" as root. Regards, Ralf -- "Nine sold him a holographic minicam, which films in every direction at once and stores the video on a remote 15-inch floppy disk" - http://theinfosphere.org/For_Your_Eyes_Mainly From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Dec 6 20:01:52 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 19:01:52 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3348] Contact pictures not deleted when contact is deleted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3348 --- Comment #4 from Charles Lehner --- (In reply to comment #3) > Yes, but we should also check that no other AB item uses the picture. (XMl > edited intentionnally may have several contacts point to the same image > resource) So multiple s with the same uid? Wouldn't that cause problems elsewhere? Checking all the other contacts would be somewhat expensive. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com Sat Dec 6 20:06:12 2014 From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 20:06:12 +0100 Subject: [Users] Updating Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20141206195117.1a3f8f12@archlinux> References: <548338B3.5060603@tesco.net> <20141206195117.1a3f8f12@archlinux> Message-ID: <20141206200612.1d638937@archlinux> On Sat, 6 Dec 2014 19:51:17 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > JFTR, assumed you compiled and installed libraries, then you > need to run "ldconfig" as root. ;) [root at archlinux rocketmouse]# pacman -Ql claws-mail-git | grep so [snip] claws-mail-git /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/acpi_notifier.so claws-mail-git /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/address_keeper.so claws-mail-git /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/archive.so claws-mail-git /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/att_remover.so claws-mail-git /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/attachwarner.so claws-mail-git /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/bogofilter.so claws-mail-git /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/bsfilter.so claws-mail-git /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/clamd.so claws-mail-git /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/fancy.so claws-mail-git /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/fetchinfo.so claws-mail-git /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/gdata.so claws-mail-git /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/libravatar.so claws-mail-git /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/mailmbox.so claws-mail-git /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/newmail.so [snip] [root at archlinux rocketmouse]# ldconfig [root at archlinux rocketmouse]# Run "ldconfig" and then try to launch "claws-mail" again. JFTR the distro you're using doesn't provide pacman. -- "Nine sold him a holographic minicam, which films in every direction at once and stores the video on a remote 15-inch floppy disk" - http://theinfosphere.org/For_Your_Eyes_Mainly From mir at miras.org Sat Dec 6 20:09:50 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 20:09:50 +0100 Subject: [Users] Updating Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20141206195117.1a3f8f12@archlinux> References: <548338B3.5060603@tesco.net> <20141206195117.1a3f8f12@archlinux> Message-ID: <20141206200950.286e0fae@sleipner.datanom.net> On Sat, 6 Dec 2014 19:51:17 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Btw. it's not that smart to chose a freakish distro based on Ubuntu or > Debian that has got no huge community. Usually Mint users annoy *buntu According to distrowatch.com mint is distro number 1!! -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: "Professional certification for car people may sound like an oxymoron." -The Wall Street Journal, page B1, Tuesday, July 17, 1990. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com Sat Dec 6 20:31:16 2014 From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 20:31:16 +0100 Subject: [Users] OT: Updating Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20141206200950.286e0fae@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <548338B3.5060603@tesco.net> <20141206195117.1a3f8f12@archlinux> <20141206200950.286e0fae@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20141206203116.46a8ad95@archlinux> off-toppic On Sat, 6 Dec 2014 20:09:50 +0100, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > On Sat, 6 Dec 2014 19:51:17 +0100 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > Btw. it's not that smart to chose a freakish distro based on Ubuntu > > or Debian that has got no huge community. Usually Mint users annoy > > *buntu > According to distrowatch.com mint is distro number 1!! Number one regarding to what? Regarding to the good support, the distro's good mailing lists and it's "huge" community, based on many long time Linux power users? C'mon! Distrowatch also mentions: "Linux Mint is an Ubuntu-based distribution" - http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mint This is the point of view _most_ long time Linux power users have got: *SICR* https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.html :D -- "Nine sold him a holographic minicam, which films in every direction at once and stores the video on a remote 15-inch floppy disk" - http://theinfosphere.org/For_Your_Eyes_Mainly From codejodler at gmx.ch Sat Dec 6 20:37:15 2014 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 20:37:15 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 9999] mark-as-read timeout does not stop countdown when user switches workspace Message-ID: <20141206203715.47978772@mirrors.kernel.org> just kidding :) From wa178492 at tesco.net Sat Dec 6 20:56:50 2014 From: wa178492 at tesco.net (GM) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 19:56:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] Updating Claws Mail Message-ID: <54835F82.6000400@tesco.net> Thank you for the speedy responses. Michael: I followed your instructions and now have 3.11.1 on my computer (not yet tested). The mistake I had been making was that I did not install the Claws Mail ppa. So simple!! Ralf: I will carefully note your instructions because I am sure they will help with other installations. As a relative newcomer to Linux (via Xandros and Ubuntu), I will not respond to your comments about Linux Mint except to suggest that it is perhaps a good way to learn more about Linux before moving on? GM From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Dec 6 22:42:24 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 21:42:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3348] Contact pictures not deleted when contact is deleted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3348 --- Comment #5 from wwp --- No but the file itself could be hardlinked. Well maybe that's a very specific setup :-). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Dec 6 22:47:19 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 21:47:19 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3346] Contact merging In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3346 Charles Lehner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1454|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #2 from Charles Lehner --- Created attachment 1456 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1456&action=edit [patch] Add contact merging, with user prompt I've updated the patch now to prompt the user for which picture to keep, and which name to keep, in the cases where contacts with multiple pictures or different names are selected for merging. Feedback is welcome! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From edodd55 at gmail.com Sun Dec 7 01:29:58 2014 From: edodd55 at gmail.com (Liz) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 11:29:58 +1100 Subject: [Users] OT: Updating Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20141206203116.46a8ad95@archlinux> References: <548338B3.5060603@tesco.net> <20141206195117.1a3f8f12@archlinux> <20141206200950.286e0fae@sleipner.datanom.net> <20141206203116.46a8ad95@archlinux> Message-ID: <20141207112958.706f2580.edodd55@gmail.com> On Sat, 6 Dec 2014 20:31:16 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > off-topic > > On Sat, 6 Dec 2014 20:09:50 +0100, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > On Sat, 6 Dec 2014 19:51:17 +0100 > > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > > Btw. it's not that smart to chose a freakish distro based on > > > Ubuntu or Debian that has got no huge community. Usually Mint > > > users annoy *buntu > > According to distrowatch.com mint is distro number 1!! > > Number one regarding to what? Regarding to the good support, the > distro's good mailing lists and it's "huge" community, based on many > long time Linux power users? C'mon! Welcome to Linux, whatever flavour. Our major difference is our philosophy, and it is often apparent that we do things different ways. As time passes, you will try many different distros until you find a favourite. The score on Distrowatch won't help you there. Things that make a difference are Up to date vs tried and stable Binary packages vs compilation of what you use Long running arguments that can be handled in any distro Vi vs Emacs Gnome vs KDE (vs others) new arguments which may make a difference to distro choice systemd vs initd Liz From jerry at seibercom.net Sun Dec 7 14:51:07 2014 From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 08:51:07 -0500 Subject: [Users] Default template for forwarded mail as attachment Message-ID: <20141207085107.099ed0ef@seibercom.net> I can create a template for forwarded mail; however, I cannot do the same for mail forwarded as an attachment. I always forward mail as an attachment and have set it as the default forwarding method. Is there a way to accomplish this? -- Jerry From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Dec 7 15:58:21 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2014 14:58:21 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3338] Claws Mail 3.11.1-34 core dumps if RSSyl is loaded In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3338 --- Comment #9 from Andrej Kacian --- Well, I am at a loss here, since I can not reproduce the crash on Linux, and I can't find the time to install and configure a FreeBSD VM to test in. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Dec 7 22:54:47 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2014 21:54:47 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3345] Ability to choose other From values via keyboard has been lost In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3345 Andrej Kacian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2014-12-07 22:35:02.635519314 +0100 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=70bd33140aa5e61e2feb8a17683d8672d92f0767 Merge: d4531ca e746281 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Sun Dec 7 22:35:02 2014 +0100 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=e746281f5fd9a7678550c29c5618f67c50ee055b Author: Andrej Kacian Date: Sun Dec 7 22:33:26 2014 +0100 Compose window: activating the GtkEntry with sender address activates the account selection combobox. Closes bug #3345, reported by Barry Warsaw. --- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian --- This behavior (pressing down to open address/account selection instead of moving to next header line) was inconsistent with rest of that whole area, so it was removed. But you are right, there should be a way to select an account with keyboard only. That's why latest commit will allow you to press Enter while in the From address field to enter the account selection combobox. Not the same thing, but functionally the same, and hopefully it is acceptable for you. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Dec 7 23:34:56 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2014 22:34:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3338] Claws Mail 3.11.1-34 core dumps if RSSyl is loaded In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3338 Andrej Kacian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #10 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2014-12-07 23:34:02.964456812 +0100 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a22e2e2c1f109da612228462e4552fb5ba2e9ff Merge: 70bd331 1ffe0d0 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Sun Dec 7 23:34:02 2014 +0100 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ffe0d0d1a4433fd841d282a9a65161044b08e21 Author: Andrej Kacian Date: Sun Dec 7 23:31:41 2014 +0100 Properly allocate buffer in conv_encode_header_full() for quoted-printable encoding. Closes bug #3338, reported by Michael Hughes. --- Comment #11 from Andrej Kacian --- This has been fixed in commit 1ffe0d0. Thank you, Michael, for off-list testing! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Dec 7 23:34:56 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2014 22:34:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3338] Claws Mail 3.11.1-34 core dumps if RSSyl is loaded In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3338 --- Comment #12 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2014-12-07 23:44:02.675807118 +0100 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a22e2e2c1f109da612228462e4552fb5ba2e9ff Merge: 70bd331 1ffe0d0 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Sun Dec 7 23:34:02 2014 +0100 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ffe0d0d1a4433fd841d282a9a65161044b08e21 Author: Andrej Kacian Date: Sun Dec 7 23:31:41 2014 +0100 Properly allocate buffer in conv_encode_header_full() for quoted-printable encoding. Closes bug #3338, reported by Michael Hughes. http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=70bd33140aa5e61e2feb8a17683d8672d92f0767 Merge: d4531ca e746281 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Sun Dec 7 22:35:02 2014 +0100 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=e746281f5fd9a7678550c29c5618f67c50ee055b Author: Andrej Kacian Date: Sun Dec 7 22:33:26 2014 +0100 Compose window: activating the GtkEntry with sender address activates the account selection combobox. Closes bug #3345, reported by Barry Warsaw. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Dec 7 22:54:47 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2014 21:54:47 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3345] Ability to choose other From values via keyboard has been lost In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3345 --- Comment #3 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2014-12-07 23:44:02.675807118 +0100 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a22e2e2c1f109da612228462e4552fb5ba2e9ff Merge: 70bd331 1ffe0d0 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Sun Dec 7 23:34:02 2014 +0100 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ffe0d0d1a4433fd841d282a9a65161044b08e21 Author: Andrej Kacian Date: Sun Dec 7 23:31:41 2014 +0100 Properly allocate buffer in conv_encode_header_full() for quoted-printable encoding. Closes bug #3338, reported by Michael Hughes. http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=70bd33140aa5e61e2feb8a17683d8672d92f0767 Merge: d4531ca e746281 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Sun Dec 7 22:35:02 2014 +0100 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=e746281f5fd9a7678550c29c5618f67c50ee055b Author: Andrej Kacian Date: Sun Dec 7 22:33:26 2014 +0100 Compose window: activating the GtkEntry with sender address activates the account selection combobox. Closes bug #3345, reported by Barry Warsaw. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From barry at python.org Mon Dec 8 16:18:37 2014 From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 10:18:37 -0500 Subject: [Users] Searching From/To/Subject/Tag *and* CC Message-ID: <20141208101837.5a060271@anarchist.wooz.org> I'm not sure why I never noticed this before (unless it's changed in CM 3.11.1). When I search for a message, I usually use the From/To/Subject/Tag menu time, which I think is the default. If I am searching for a message that was posted to this mailing list, I might type 'claws-mail' in the text box and it will show me all the messages sent To users at list.claws-mail.org. But if the message was CC'd to the list, this search won't find it. It seems obvious (to me ;) that From/To/Subject/Tag should include CC. Is there a way to add CC to some hidden configuration setting? Has this changed recently or has it always been this way? Should I file a bug? Cheers, -Barry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Dec 8 16:31:34 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:31:34 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3345] Ability to choose other From values via keyboard has been lost In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3345 --- Comment #4 from Barry Warsaw --- Thanks for adding this functionality back. I'll retrain my muscle memory to hit Enter instead of down-arrow to pull up the selection combobox. I ran from git and it seemed fine, except for one minor annoyance. Previously, you'd hit Alt-D to get to the Header tab, then hit down-arrow to pull up the combobox. Two keystrokes. Now you have to hit Alt-D, then TAB to get to the address area, *then* hit Enter to pull up the combobox. Three keystrokes. Is there any way you can make Enter pull up the combobox when it's hit while sitting on the Header tab, making it two keystrokes again? IOW, Alt-D then Enter -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From andrej at kacian.sk Mon Dec 8 21:20:41 2014 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 21:20:41 +0100 Subject: [Users] unable to read own encrypted GPG email In-Reply-To: <20141208210357.2864848d.bits_n_bytes@gmx.de> References: <20141208210357.2864848d.bits_n_bytes@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20141208212041.788c8af3@penny> On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 21:03:57 +0100 Frank Dietrich wrote: > > Is it normal that I can't read emails I have sent encrypted? > Hi, this is normal, that is how PGP is supposed to work - the message is only readable by people owning private counterparts of key(s) with you encrypted it. You need to encrypt the message with your own key as well. Look in account preferences, Privacy page, there's a convenience option for that. -- Andrej From mir at miras.org Mon Dec 8 21:23:00 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 21:23:00 +0100 Subject: [Users] unable to read own encrypted GPG email In-Reply-To: <20141208210357.2864848d.bits_n_bytes@gmx.de> References: <20141208210357.2864848d.bits_n_bytes@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20141208212300.3b756d6e@sleipner.datanom.net> On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 21:03:57 +0100 Frank Dietrich wrote: > > Is it normal that I can't read emails I have sent encrypted? > You need to check: Encrypt sent messages with own key in addition to recipient's under Account preferences -> Privacy. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: To the systems programmer, users and applications serve only to provide a test load. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com Mon Dec 8 21:24:37 2014 From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 21:24:37 +0100 Subject: [Users] unable to read own encrypted GPG email In-Reply-To: <20141208210357.2864848d.bits_n_bytes@gmx.de> References: <20141208210357.2864848d.bits_n_bytes@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20141208212437.2af10535@archlinux> On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 21:03:57 +0100, Frank Dietrich wrote: > What I did: > - but I can't read my own email I have sent, the email is displayed > as encrypted (with a small key icon in the email list), when the > email is select above the email window it's written "Couldn't > decrypt: Decrpytion failed" Then you encrypted with the public key of the receiver and only the receiver can decrypt it. Don't encrypt the message saved on your machine, but that's not good, or encrypt with your own public key, while the send mail must be encrypted with the receivers public key. Since I'm new to Claws, I don't know how Claws handles this. Evolution provides an "encrypt to myself" option. -- Marge Simpson: We used to call ourselves the Cool Moms. Bart Simpson: There is nothing cooler than calling yourself cool. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Dec 8 21:41:19 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 20:41:19 +0000 Subject: [Users] unable to read own encrypted GPG email In-Reply-To: <20141208212437.2af10535@archlinux> References: <20141208210357.2864848d.bits_n_bytes@gmx.de> <20141208212437.2af10535@archlinux> Message-ID: <20141208204119.290e4edb@thewildbeast> On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 21:24:37 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Since I'm new to Claws, I don't know how Claws handles this. > Evolution provides an "encrypt to myself" option. If you don't know then don't answer! Especially not with info about another software!! with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com Mon Dec 8 21:48:19 2014 From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 21:48:19 +0100 Subject: [Users] unable to read own encrypted GPG email In-Reply-To: <20141208204119.290e4edb@thewildbeast> References: <20141208210357.2864848d.bits_n_bytes@gmx.de> <20141208212437.2af10535@archlinux> <20141208204119.290e4edb@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20141208214819.7b216fce@archlinux> On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 20:41:19 +0000, Paul wrote: > On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 21:24:37 +0100 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > Since I'm new to Claws, I don't know how Claws handles this. > > Evolution provides an "encrypt to myself" option. > > If you don't know then don't answer! Especially not with info about > another software!! The OP wanted to know if it's "normal" and I explained how it works, since I know how encryption and decryption works. What's wrong with answering an OPs question? The incomplete quote above was just a hint, since I suspect that Claws provides an option that is named similar, anyway, this wasn't the substance of my reply, my reply was a correct explanation. What's your problem? Aren't correct explanations unwanted? -- Marge Simpson: We used to call ourselves the Cool Moms. Bart Simpson: There is nothing cooler than calling yourself cool. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Dec 8 21:57:56 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 20:57:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] unable to read own encrypted GPG email In-Reply-To: <20141208214819.7b216fce@archlinux> References: <20141208210357.2864848d.bits_n_bytes@gmx.de> <20141208212437.2af10535@archlinux> <20141208204119.290e4edb@thewildbeast> <20141208214819.7b216fce@archlinux> Message-ID: <20141208205756.500b8bb2@thewildbeast> On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 21:48:19 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > The OP wanted to know if it's "normal" and I explained how it works, > since I know how encryption and decryption works. What's wrong with > answering an OPs question? The incomplete quote above was just a > hint, since I suspect that Claws provides an option that is named > similar, anyway, this wasn't the substance of my reply, my reply > was a correct explanation. What's your problem? Aren't correct > explanations unwanted? Your reply was good, imo, until the part I quoted. Better to inform the user of the possibility of using the "encrypt-to MY_KEY_ID" option in ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf if you couldn't find the convenience option in Claws. (Again, IMO.) with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Dec 8 23:11:41 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 22:11:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3345] Ability to choose other From values via keyboard has been lost In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3345 --- Comment #5 from Andrej Kacian --- I don't really like the approach of Alt-D + Enter, since if a focus is on the notebook header (and left/right will change notebook pages), I feel it shouldn't touch "inner" widgets until you explicitly focus into them. Instead, after latest commit, Alt-F gets you directly to the sender address line. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com Mon Dec 8 23:18:26 2014 From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 23:18:26 +0100 Subject: [Users] unable to read own encrypted GPG email In-Reply-To: <20141208205756.500b8bb2@thewildbeast> References: <20141208210357.2864848d.bits_n_bytes@gmx.de> <20141208212437.2af10535@archlinux> <20141208204119.290e4edb@thewildbeast> <20141208214819.7b216fce@archlinux> <20141208205756.500b8bb2@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20141208231826.33011fa2@archlinux> On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 20:57:56 +0000, Paul wrote: > Your reply was good, imo, until the part I quoted. Better to inform > the user of the possibility of using the "encrypt-to MY_KEY_ID" option > in ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf if you couldn't find the convenience option in > Claws. (Again, IMO.) You have a point there. It seems that non of the MUAs I used with GnuPG made an entry in gpg.conf [1], I suspect they add it as an option when running gpg. Does Claws edit gpg.conf? Btw. I'm not quite sure if it's possible to sent an encrypted mail and to store a non encrypted mail by any MUA. I guess for good reasons they always encrypt the stored mail too. I guess to keep non-encrypted mails is a bad habit when not using a MUA, but doing it manually, by writing a mail with an editor, encrypting it and then using a sendmail program to sent it. Regards, Ralf [1] $ cat /mnt/oz/home/spinymouse/.gnupg/gpg.conf | grep encrypt-to # Use --encrypt-to to add the specified key as a recipient to all #encrypt-to some-key-id $ cat /mnt/q/home/rocketmouse/.gnupg/gpg.conf | grep encrypt-to # Use --encrypt-to to add the specified key as a recipient to all #encrypt-to some-key-id "–encrypt-to name Same as –recipient but this one is intended for in the options file and may be used together with an own user-id as an "encrypt-to-self". These keys are only used when there are other recipients given either by use of –recipient or by the asked user id. No trust checking is performed for these user ids and even disabled keys can be used." - man page -- Marge Simpson: We used to call ourselves the Cool Moms. Bart Simpson: There is nothing cooler than calling yourself cool. From andrej at kacian.sk Mon Dec 8 23:33:14 2014 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 23:33:14 +0100 Subject: [Users] unable to read own encrypted GPG email In-Reply-To: <20141208231826.33011fa2@archlinux> References: <20141208210357.2864848d.bits_n_bytes@gmx.de> <20141208212437.2af10535@archlinux> <20141208204119.290e4edb@thewildbeast> <20141208214819.7b216fce@archlinux> <20141208205756.500b8bb2@thewildbeast> <20141208231826.33011fa2@archlinux> Message-ID: <20141208233314.249e5481@penny> On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 23:18:26 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > It seems that non of the MUAs I used with GnuPG made an entry in > gpg.conf [1], I suspect they add it as an option when running gpg. > Does Claws edit gpg.conf? No, Claws Mail just adds the sender's key (based on account preferences) to list of keys to which the message is being encrypted. It does not touch your gpg.conf at all. > Btw. I'm not quite sure if it's possible to sent an encrypted mail and > to store a non encrypted mail by any MUA. I guess for good reasons > they always encrypt the stored mail too. I guess to keep > non-encrypted mails is a bad habit when not using a MUA, but doing it > manually, by writing a mail with an editor, encrypting it and then > using a sendmail program to sent it. It is possible (although usually not recommended), from Privacy page of account preferences. You have to disable "Encrypt sent messages with your own key in addition to recipient's" option first, though. -- Andrej From ricardo at mones.org Tue Dec 9 09:30:35 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 09:30:35 +0100 Subject: [Users] Searching From/To/Subject/Tag *and* CC In-Reply-To: <20141208101837.5a060271@anarchist.wooz.org> References: <20141208101837.5a060271@anarchist.wooz.org> Message-ID: <20141209083035.GC30064@trasgu> Hi Barry, On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 10:18:37AM -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: > I'm not sure why I never noticed this before (unless it's changed in CM > 3.11.1). > > When I search for a message, I usually use the From/To/Subject/Tag menu time, > which I think is the default. If I am searching for a message that was posted > to this mailing list, I might type 'claws-mail' in the text box and it will > show me all the messages sent To users at list.claws-mail.org. > > But if the message was CC'd to the list, this search won't find it. It seems > obvious (to me ;) that From/To/Subject/Tag should include CC. > > Is there a way to add CC to some hidden configuration setting? Has this > changed recently or has it always been this way? Should I file a bug? It has always been that way, and the bug was already filed some years ago: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1797 It's probably time for merging the bug's patch ;) regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ RTFM - "Read The Manual" (The 'F' is silent). Usually a very good idea. Bjarne Stroustrup -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Tue Dec 9 12:01:15 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 11:01:15 +0000 Subject: [Users] unable to read own encrypted GPG email In-Reply-To: <20141208212041.788c8af3@penny> References: <20141208210357.2864848d.bits_n_bytes@gmx.de> <20141208212041.788c8af3@penny> Message-ID: <20141209110115.00004da9@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 21:20:41 +0100 Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 21:03:57 +0100 > Frank Dietrich wrote: > > > > > Is it normal that I can't read emails I have sent encrypted? > > > > Hi, this is normal, that is how PGP is supposed to work - the message > is only readable by people owning private counterparts of key(s) with > you encrypted it. > > You need to encrypt the message with your own key as well. Look in > account preferences, Privacy page, there's a convenience option for > that. > Be aware that in some jurisdictions doing this means that your email becomes subject to key recovery legislation, this may not be your intent. -- Brian Morrison From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com Tue Dec 9 14:01:52 2014 From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 14:01:52 +0100 Subject: [Users] unable to read own encrypted GPG email In-Reply-To: <20141209110115.00004da9@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> References: <20141208210357.2864848d.bits_n_bytes@gmx.de> <20141208212041.788c8af3@penny> <20141209110115.00004da9@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: <20141209140152.4f996893@archlinux> On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 11:01:15 +0000, Brian Morrison wrote: > > You need to encrypt the message with your own key as well. > > Be aware that in some jurisdictions doing this means that your email > becomes subject to key recovery legislation, this may not be your > intent. And what happens if the private key is lost? I'm not kidding, I can't find some of my old keys anymore, but I still own those encrypted messages. Eternal coercive detention? -- Marge Simpson: We used to call ourselves the Cool Moms. Bart Simpson: There is nothing cooler than calling yourself cool. From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Tue Dec 9 15:56:45 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 14:56:45 +0000 Subject: [Users] unable to read own encrypted GPG email In-Reply-To: <20141209140152.4f996893@archlinux> References: <20141208210357.2864848d.bits_n_bytes@gmx.de> <20141208212041.788c8af3@penny> <20141209110115.00004da9@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20141209140152.4f996893@archlinux> Message-ID: <20141209145645.0000283b@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 14:01:52 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 11:01:15 +0000, Brian Morrison wrote: > > > You need to encrypt the message with your own key as well. > > > > Be aware that in some jurisdictions doing this means that your email > > becomes subject to key recovery legislation, this may not be your > > intent. > > And what happens if the private key is lost? > > I'm not kidding, I can't find some of my old keys anymore, but I still > own those encrypted messages. > > Eternal coercive detention? > In the UK if they think you're pretending to have lost a key then it could mean a 2 year prison sentence if you can't convince a judge/jury otherwise. -- Brian Morrison From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Tue Dec 9 16:10:04 2014 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron)) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 12:10:04 -0300 Subject: [Users] unable to read own encrypted GPG email In-Reply-To: <20141209145645.0000283b@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> References: <20141208210357.2864848d.bits_n_bytes@gmx.de> <20141208212041.788c8af3@penny> <20141209110115.00004da9@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20141209140152.4f996893@archlinux> <20141209145645.0000283b@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: <20141209121004.1fa10877@ron.cerrocora.org> On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 14:56:45 +0000 Brian Morrison wrote: > > > > You need to encrypt the message with your own key as well. > > > Be aware that in some jurisdictions doing this means that your email > > > becomes subject to key recovery legislation, this may not be your > > > intent. > > And what happens if the private key is lost? > > I'm not kidding, I can't find some of my old keys anymore, but I still > > own those encrypted messages. > > Eternal coercive detention? > In the UK if they think you're pretending to have lost a key then it > could mean a 2 year prison sentence if you can't convince a judge/jury > otherwise. So if you lost your key, better delete the un-readable messages... Cheers, Ron. -- Denialists replace the rigorous and open-minded skepticism of science with the inflexible certainty of ideological commitment. -- Michael Specter -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com Tue Dec 9 17:12:00 2014 From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 17:12:00 +0100 Subject: [Users] unable to read own encrypted GPG email In-Reply-To: <20141209121004.1fa10877@ron.cerrocora.org> References: <20141208210357.2864848d.bits_n_bytes@gmx.de> <20141208212041.788c8af3@penny> <20141209110115.00004da9@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20141209140152.4f996893@archlinux> <20141209145645.0000283b@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20141209121004.1fa10877@ron.cerrocora.org> Message-ID: <20141209171200.43b81391@archlinux> On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 12:10:04 -0300, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 14:56:45 +0000 > Brian Morrison wrote: > > > > > > You need to encrypt the message with your own key as well. > > > > > Be aware that in some jurisdictions doing this means that your > > > > email becomes subject to key recovery legislation, this may not > > > > be your intent. > > > > And what happens if the private key is lost? > > > I'm not kidding, I can't find some of my old keys anymore, but I > > > still own those encrypted messages. > > > Eternal coercive detention? > > > In the UK if they think you're pretending to have lost a key then it > > could mean a 2 year prison sentence if you can't convince a > > judge/jury otherwise. > > So if you lost your key, better delete the un-readable messages... I still hope to find the keys someday. Sorry, perhaps it's OT, OTOH it might be important to know about such laws. Doing a short web research I couldn't find such a law for Germany. Is anybody aware about EU law and German law? UK is member of the European Union. What does "delete" mean? "rm" just removes the directory entries and even "shred" doesn't ensures that the data is overwritten [1]. So deleting old mails does mean to 1. Delete the particular mails and just keep not encrypted mails and encrypted mails that can be decrypted. 2. then backup the mails 3. then shred or dd a complete partition?! 4. after that to restore the mails from the tidy up backup Regards, Ralf [1] [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ shred --help [snip] CAUTION: Note that shred relies on a very important assumption: that the file system overwrites data in place. This is the traditional way to do things, but many modern file system designs do not satisfy this assumption. The following are examples of file systems on which shred is not effective, or is not guaranteed to be effective in all file system modes: * log-structured or journaled file systems, such as those supplied with AIX and Solaris (and JFS, ReiserFS, XFS, Ext3, etc.) [snip] -- "Pull a Homer -- to succeed despite idiocy." - The Simpsons From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Tue Dec 9 17:58:57 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 16:58:57 +0000 Subject: [Users] unable to read own encrypted GPG email In-Reply-To: <20141209171200.43b81391@archlinux> References: <20141208210357.2864848d.bits_n_bytes@gmx.de> <20141208212041.788c8af3@penny> <20141209110115.00004da9@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20141209140152.4f996893@archlinux> <20141209145645.0000283b@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20141209121004.1fa10877@ron.cerrocora.org> <20141209171200.43b81391@archlinux> Message-ID: <20141209165857.000045f6@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 17:12:00 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Doing a short web research I couldn't find such a law for Germany. Probably because Germany is one of the most sensible places when it comes to privacy. And has a constitutional court that is respected. > Is anybody aware about EU law and German law? As I understand it there is no EU law as such, only national law. The treaties require that EC directives are transcribed into national law in each member state. -- Brian Morrison From codejodler at gmx.ch Tue Dec 9 18:01:42 2014 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 18:01:42 +0100 Subject: [Users] unable to read own encrypted GPG email In-Reply-To: <20141209171200.43b81391@archlinux> References: <20141208210357.2864848d.bits_n_bytes@gmx.de> <20141208212041.788c8af3@penny> <20141209110115.00004da9@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20141209140152.4f996893@archlinux> <20141209145645.0000283b@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20141209121004.1fa10877@ron.cerrocora.org> <20141209171200.43b81391@archlinux> Message-ID: <20141209180142.2192eaf3@mirrors.kernel.org> From the point of view from the sender, what is the difference between decrypting a mail and keeping it stored, and not decrypting and keeping it stored ? If there was no additional condition like, shred after read. If the sender requires you to shred their mail (which may happen in critical communications) then you should discuss the technical method with them personally. From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com Tue Dec 9 18:31:32 2014 From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 18:31:32 +0100 Subject: [Users] unable to read own encrypted GPG email In-Reply-To: <20141209121004.1fa10877@ron.cerrocora.org> References: <20141208210357.2864848d.bits_n_bytes@gmx.de> <20141208212041.788c8af3@penny> <20141209110115.00004da9@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20141209140152.4f996893@archlinux> <20141209145645.0000283b@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20141209121004.1fa10877@ron.cerrocora.org> Message-ID: <20141209183132.1a63e93f@archlinux> off-topic On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 12:10:04 -0300, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > So if you lost your key, better delete the un-readable messages... There's an off-topic mailing list, continuing this thread: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/d-community-offtopic/2014-December/000863.html I guess to post to this list subscription isn't required, but I'm not quite sure, http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic . Continuing this off-topic here isn't required. Regards, Ralf -- "Pull a Homer -- to succeed despite idiocy." - The Simpsons From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Tue Dec 9 18:58:38 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 17:58:38 +0000 Subject: [Users] unable to read own encrypted GPG email In-Reply-To: <20141209183132.1a63e93f@archlinux> References: <20141208210357.2864848d.bits_n_bytes@gmx.de> <20141208212041.788c8af3@penny> <20141209110115.00004da9@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20141209140152.4f996893@archlinux> <20141209145645.0000283b@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20141209121004.1fa10877@ron.cerrocora.org> <20141209183132.1a63e93f@archlinux> Message-ID: <20141209175838.000059f6@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 18:31:32 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Continuing this off-topic here isn't required. To be honest, I regard this as on-topic for the Claws list, it's important that people realise that crypto is difficult and it needs some thought if you are using it for communications where the secrecy is important. Setting up Claws and gnupg to work in a sensible manner is part of the process of using Claws effectively. -- Brian Morrison From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Dec 9 19:12:33 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 18:12:33 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 1797] quicksearch could also search the Cc field In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1797 --- Comment #3 from Barry Warsaw --- The patch from 2008-12-14 no longer applies. I'll attach a patch against git head which works for me. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Dec 9 19:13:18 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 18:13:18 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 1797] quicksearch could also search the Cc field In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1797 --- Comment #4 from Barry Warsaw --- Created attachment 1457 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1457&action=edit Updated patch against git head -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From barry at python.org Tue Dec 9 19:15:28 2014 From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 13:15:28 -0500 Subject: [Users] Searching From/To/Subject/Tag *and* CC References: <20141208101837.5a060271@anarchist.wooz.org> <20141209083035.GC30064@trasgu> Message-ID: <20141209131528.78de17c9@anarchist.wooz.org> Hi Ricardo, On Dec 09, 2014, at 09:30 AM, Ricardo Mones wrote: >It has always been that way, and the bug was already filed some years >ago: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1797 > >It's probably time for merging the bug's patch ;) Thanks for the reference! Unfortunately, that bug's patch doesn't apply cleanly against 3.11.1. I adapted it to git head and uploaded a new version. (I guess there's not currently a way to do pull requests against Claws git?) In any case, the new patch does exactly what I want. Any chance you can help land that in git? 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Select a text file from disk Result: No text is inserted On stdout: Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_text_buffer_emit_insert: assertion `g_utf8_validate (text, len, NULL)' failed -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Dec 9 19:34:35 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 18:34:35 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3349 --- Comment #1 from Paul --- Works for me. Please attach a file to this bug report that exhibits this behaviour. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Dec 9 19:49:03 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 18:49:03 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3349 --- Comment #2 from Marvin --- The file is a text file. file file.txt tells me: Non-ISO extended-ASCII text Size in bytes: 252907 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com Tue Dec 9 20:28:45 2014 From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 20:28:45 +0100 Subject: [Users] Secure file deletion - Was: unable to read own encrypted GPG email In-Reply-To: <20141209175838.000059f6@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> References: <20141208210357.2864848d.bits_n_bytes@gmx.de> <20141208212041.788c8af3@penny> <20141209110115.00004da9@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20141209140152.4f996893@archlinux> <20141209145645.0000283b@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20141209121004.1fa10877@ron.cerrocora.org> <20141209183132.1a63e93f@archlinux> <20141209175838.000059f6@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: <20141209202845.0934a070@archlinux> On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 17:58:38 +0000, Brian Morrison wrote: > On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 18:31:32 +0100 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > Continuing this off-topic here isn't required. > > To be honest, I regard this as on-topic for the Claws list, it's > important that people realise that crypto is difficult and it needs > some thought if you are using it for communications where the secrecy > is important. Setting up Claws and gnupg to work in a sensible manner > is part of the process of using Claws effectively. Ok :). Instead of using ext2 to get secure file deletion working [1], I found an on the fly workaround for ext3/4 [2]. Does this really ensure secure deletion? Is there a better way to do it? Aren't there any cached/tmp entries when using ext2? Regards, Ralf [1] Configuration > Preferences > Other > Miscellaneous > [x] use secure file deletion if possible (which enables shredding of temporary files and messages) [2] "Using shred, with an ext3 file system presents the user with the problem of secure deletion because it can only really be effectively used with ordered and writeback journals. The solution as far as ext3 is concerned is to convert it to a non-journaled system like ext2, run shred and then convert back to ext3. This can be done on the fly. If you are not sure what file system you are running just type /etc/fstab in the location bar of Konqueror to find out. If it is ext3 you can convert it to ext2 using the following method. Open a console, as root, convert ext3 to ext2: tune2fs -O ^has_journal /dev/hda1 and then: e2fsck /dev/hda1 You will also need to amend /etc/fstab (as root) in your favourite text editor to change the entry to ext2. Once you have used the shred command you need to re-convert the file system back to ext3: tune2fs -j /dev/hda1 That seems like a lot of trouble to go to to shred files securely and it is but at least you can be sure that nothing escaped. There is another way. Edit the mount options in /etc/fstab (as root) to change the type of journal mode to one of the two types listed above, use shred and revert the journal type once again by the same method." -http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/shred_and_secure_delete_tools_wiping_files_partitions_and_disks_gnu_linux ext4: http://fenidik.blogspot.de/2010/03/ext4-disable-journal.html -- "Pull a Homer -- to succeed despite idiocy." - The Simpsons From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Dec 9 20:31:39 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 19:31:39 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3350] New: Wrong message size is shown when viewing a message with an attachment Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3350 Bug ID: 3350 Summary: Wrong message size is shown when viewing a message with an attachment Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.11.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Message View Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: marvint.roebuck at inbox.lv Steps to reproduce: 1. Attach a file to an email 2. send the email 3. select the file in your sent folder 4. Note the size [file.txt text/plain (255219 bytes)] 5. click the link to view the attachment 6. the text file should be seen now in the message window 7. select any other message to view 8. select this sent message again 9. Note the size [file.txt text/plain (252907 bytes)] -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Dec 9 20:37:26 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 19:37:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3349 --- Comment #3 from Paul --- (In reply to comment #2) > The file is a text file. > > file file.txt tells me: > > Non-ISO extended-ASCII text > > > Size in bytes: 252907 Can you attach it? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Dec 9 21:21:07 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 20:21:07 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3349 --- Comment #4 from Marvin --- Nah, but look, I see these in the file: http://unicode-table.com/en/search/?q=224 and http://unicode-table.com/en/search/?q=233 and http://unicode-table.com/en/search/?q=228 And more like that. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Dec 9 21:35:45 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 20:35:45 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3350] Wrong message size is shown when viewing a message with an attachment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3350 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Paul --- It's the encoded size. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Dec 9 22:07:01 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 21:07:01 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3349 --- Comment #5 from Andrej Kacian --- What about inserting file downloaded from http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/examples/UTF-8-demo.txt ? Does that work? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Dec 9 23:23:24 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 22:23:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3349 --- Comment #6 from Marvin --- I can include that UTF8-demo file with no problems. file UTF-8-demo.txt UTF-8-demo.txt: UTF-8 Unicode text file -i UTF-8-demo.txt UTF-8-demo.txt: text/plain; charset=utf-8 and for the problem file file -i file.txt text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Dec 9 23:31:19 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 22:31:19 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3350] Wrong message size is shown when viewing a message with an attachment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3350 --- Comment #2 from Marvin --- Why does the size show the encoded size sometimes and the un-encoded size other times? If that's a feature it's not well thought out. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Dec 9 23:42:41 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 22:42:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3351] New: Two problems when re-sending a file with an attachment Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3351 Bug ID: 3351 Summary: Two problems when re-sending a file with an attachment Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.11.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: marvint.roebuck at inbox.lv When I re-send a file there are two problems. 1. The attachment becomes inline 2. The attachment is also attached (and the size is the unencoded size, see bug # 3350) The file is now almost twice the size of the original (Looking in the sent folder) original size on disk = 256116 new size on disk = 508567 Inlining the attachment is problem #1 Doubling the size of the original is problem #2 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Dec 10 00:31:26 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 23:31:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3349 Andrej Kacian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME --- Comment #7 from Andrej Kacian --- Well, if you do not want to attach a file you are having a problem with, then I don't think we can help you. I was not able to reproduce this no matter what I tried. Feel free to reopen this bug once you decide to provide a file to reproduce the issue with. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Dec 10 02:46:18 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 01:46:18 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3349 --- Comment #8 from Marvin --- Created attachment 1458 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1458&action=edit Problem file with unicode char that causes claws to raise an assert -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Dec 10 02:48:23 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 01:48:23 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3349 --- Comment #9 from Marvin --- This is the char that causes claws to raise an assert. http://unicode-table.com/en/search/?q=146 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Dec 10 09:42:25 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 08:42:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3351] Two problems when re-sending a file with an attachment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3351 --- Comment #1 from Paul --- Attach an example message to this bug item. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Dec 10 09:57:16 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 08:57:16 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3349 --- Comment #10 from Ricardo Mones --- (In reply to comment #9) > This is the char that causes claws to raise an assert. > > http://unicode-table.com/en/search/?q=146 ╭──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── │$ wget -q -O tst 'http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1458' │$ iconv -f UTF-8 tst │ │ │iconv: illegal input sequence at position 2 ╰──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Sorry, but that file doesn't seem a valid UTF-8 encoded one. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From jvromans at squirrel.nl Wed Dec 10 10:21:53 2014 From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 10:21:53 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <20141210102153.3d74fadb@phoenix.squirrel.nl> On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 08:57:16 +0000 noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: > Sorry, but that file doesn't seem a valid UTF-8 encoded one. That was clear from the start. But should Claws-Mail react with a notice or something, instead of doing nothing. -- Johan From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Dec 10 10:43:31 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 09:43:31 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: <20141210102153.3d74fadb@phoenix.squirrel.nl> References:

<20141210102153.3d74fadb@phoenix.squirrel.nl> Message-ID: <20141210094331.72be2e86@thewildbeast> On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 10:21:53 +0100 Johan Vromans wrote: > That was clear from the start. > > But should Claws-Mail react with a notice or something, instead > of doing nothing. Patches welcome! -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Dec 10 11:00:20 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 10:00:20 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3351] Two problems when re-sending a file with an attachment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3351 --- Comment #2 from Paul --- When you say 're-send' do you mean Redirect or Forward? When you say 'file' do you mean 'message'? "(Looking in the sent folder)" - you mean that you're resending one of your own messages? What differences show if you diff the files? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From ricardo at mones.org Wed Dec 10 11:02:38 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 11:02:38 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: <20141210102153.3d74fadb@phoenix.squirrel.nl> References:

<20141210102153.3d74fadb@phoenix.squirrel.nl> Message-ID: <20141210100238.GH30064@trasgu> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 10:21:53AM +0100, Johan Vromans wrote: > On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 08:57:16 +0000 > noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: > > > Sorry, but that file doesn't seem a valid UTF-8 encoded one. > > That was clear from the start. As a member of the Church of the Double Checkers my beliefs doesn't allow me to trust the holy g_utf8_validate as much as you. My sincere apologies for that, but I hope you understand :-) > But should Claws-Mail react with a notice or something, instead > of doing nothing. The original reporter already noticed the stdout message, so it does *something*. It probably could be done better, a dialog instead a console message, but there's no such request on the bug report. The expected result seems to be that the file must be inserted no matter what junk contains, and that's not a good idea, IMHO. -- Ricardo Mones ~ Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it. Richard Feynman -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From jvromans at squirrel.nl Wed Dec 10 11:57:47 2014 From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 11:57:47 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: <20141210100238.GH30064@trasgu> References:

<20141210102153.3d74fadb@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20141210100238.GH30064@trasgu> Message-ID: <20141210115747.223134a5@phoenix.squirrel.nl> On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 11:02:38 +0100 Ricardo Mones wrote: > The original reporter already noticed the stdout message, so it does > *something*. For a GUI application, stdout/stderr is generally ignored/hidden. > The expected result seems to be that the file must be inserted no > matter what junk contains, and that's not a good idea, IMHO. Agreed. Probably the best response would be a dialogue "This file cannot be inserted due to encoding violations. Would you like to attach it as a binary file instead?" -- Johan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From bbowler at bigelow.org Wed Dec 10 21:24:05 2014 From: bbowler at bigelow.org (Bruce Bowler) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 20:24:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Users] I think claws has just screwed me... Message-ID: I'm running 3.10.1 on a 64 bit windows 7 system. It's been running fine for quite a while. Connection to server (business account hosted by gmail) is via imap. I was just moving some messages from one folder to a newly created folder and things have gotten completely scrambled. as an example... In the header pane, the subject is "Re: HS Sun Tracker", the sender is me and the recipient is Gavin. In the message pane, the subject is "Sun tracker manual", the sender is me and the recipient is Barney. Somewhere there is a message that goes with the message the header pane things is highlighted and somewhere there's a header that goes with the message in the message pane. How do I get them back in sync. Rebuild folder tree didn't help. Bruce From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Dec 10 21:31:19 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 20:31:19 +0000 Subject: [Users] I think claws has just screwed me... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20141210203119.0fed1fba@thewildbeast> On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 20:24:05 +0000 (UTC) Bruce Bowler wrote: > How do I get them back in sync. Rebuild folder tree didn't help. Open the Folder Properties and click the 'Discard folder cache' button. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From bbowler at bigelow.org Wed Dec 10 21:37:38 2014 From: bbowler at bigelow.org (Bruce Bowler) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 20:37:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Users] I think claws has just screwed me... References: <20141210203119.0fed1fba@thewildbeast> Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 20:31:19 +0000, Paul wrote: > On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 20:24:05 +0000 (UTC) > Bruce Bowler wrote: > >> How do I get them back in sync. Rebuild folder tree didn't help. > > Open the Folder Properties and click the 'Discard folder cache' > button. > > with regards > > Paul Grazie. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 12 19:41:56 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 18:41:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3350] Wrong message size is shown when viewing a message with an attachment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3350 --- Comment #3 from Marvin --- Thinking more like you all do, this is a documentation bug. Maybe add this to the docs: "When viewing the attachment size, on some occasions the size will be shown as the encoded size while on other occasions the size of the attachment is shown as the unencoded size. Occasions are defined elsewhere, see smidge, jiffie, shake-of-a-lambs-tail, etc." -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 12 19:48:29 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 18:48:29 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3349 --- Comment #11 from Marvin --- Thinking as you all do again, it ain't easy, seems to be a documentation problem. "When inserting a file into a current message via Ctrl-I or via the menu during compose Message->Insert file, claws uses the file extension to correctly or incorrectly determine the file type and decide what kind of file we're inserting. If claws is unable to determine the file type it will fail, going silent, but will raise an assert to stdout, so go look for stdout output your self. You may also scratch your head if that's what you want to do." -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 12 19:55:03 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 18:55:03 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3351] Two problems when re-sending a file with an attachment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3351 --- Comment #3 from Marvin --- Steps to repro: 1. dbl-click previously sent message containing an attachment only. 2. Note that the attachment now appears in the body of the new message 3. Note that the attachment is also an attachment. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 12 20:42:05 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 19:42:05 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3351] Two problems when re-sending a file with an attachment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3351 --- Comment #4 from Marvin --- Created attachment 1459 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1459&action=edit This is a problematic file for claws and others -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From jvromans at squirrel.nl Sat Dec 13 16:47:45 2014 From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 16:47:45 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <20141213164745.354b241d@phoenix.squirrel.nl> On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 18:48:29 +0000 noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: > "When inserting a file into a current message via Ctrl-I or via the menu > during compose Message->Insert file, claws uses the file extension to > correctly or incorrectly determine the file type and decide what kind of > file we're inserting. If claws is unable to determine the file type it > will fail, going silent, but will raise an assert to stdout, so go look > for stdout output your self. You may also scratch your head if that's > what you want to do." In modern desktop environments, the user won't be able to view stdout output at all, so this is not helping. It would be acceptible to insert a text like "[cannot insert]" instead of popup dialogs, if that would be easier to implement. -- Johan From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Dec 13 17:17:16 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 16:17:16 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3349 --- Comment #12 from Marvin --- There seems to be some code already around checking what gets inserted. When trying a larger file a warning window pops-up to say something like "Are you sure you want to include a file that's this large?"* Doesn't seem like a huge leap to add a check for a file-type mismatch. For example including a text file that is not, based upon what claws considers to be text, which is unclear and seems to be a narrow definition. Maybe the definition of what claws considers to be text could also be displayed so the user knows more about what happened and might have a chance to fix the text file that claws doesn't like. Or offer a suggestion of attaching the file instead. * I don't recall what size it showed in the size-warning pop-up, there's much inconsistency throughout claws on reporting on the size of things. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From pg.nikolic1 at gmail.com Sat Dec 13 19:59:23 2014 From: pg.nikolic1 at gmail.com (pete nikolic) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 18:59:23 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: <20141213164745.354b241d@phoenix.squirrel.nl> References:

<20141213164745.354b241d@phoenix.squirrel.nl> Message-ID: <20141213185923.6be199db@7-of-9> On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 16:47:45 +0100 Johan Vromans wrote: > On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 18:48:29 +0000 > noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: > > > "When inserting a file into a current message via Ctrl-I or via the menu > > during compose Message->Insert file, claws uses the file extension to > > correctly or incorrectly determine the file type and decide what kind of > > file we're inserting. If claws is unable to determine the file type it > > will fail, going silent, but will raise an assert to stdout, so go look > > for stdout output your self. You may also scratch your head if that's > > what you want to do." > > In modern desktop environments, the user won't be able to view stdout > output at all, so this is not helping. > > It would be acceptible to insert a text like "[cannot insert]" instead of > popup dialogs, if that would be easier to implement. > > -- Johan > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users Sorry maybe i am thinking wrong here BUT Why are you trying to insert a file into a mail when possibly you would do better Attaching it to said mail .. Pete . -- Illegitimi non carborundum . ro for the purists out there Noli nothis permittere te terere. From jvromans at squirrel.nl Sat Dec 13 23:50:47 2014 From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 23:50:47 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: <20141213185923.6be199db@7-of-9> References:

<20141213164745.354b241d@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20141213185923.6be199db@7-of-9> Message-ID: <20141213235047.23779d54@phoenix.squirrel.nl> On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 18:59:23 +0000 pete nikolic wrote: > Sorry maybe i am thinking wrong here BUT > > Why are you trying to insert a file into a mail when possibly you would > do better Attaching it to said mail .. Sometimes you want to include something (a snippet of text, a piece of output) *in* the body of message. Attaching is better for complete documents or non-text data. -- Johan The following signature was Inserted from file: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Johan Vromans jvromans at squirrel.nl Squirrel Consultancy Exloo, the Netherlands http://www.squirrel.nl http://johan.vromans.org PGP Key 1024D/1298C2B4 http://johan.vromans.org/pgpkey.html ---------------------- "Arms are made for hugging" ----------------------- From itz at buug.org Sun Dec 14 07:35:58 2014 From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 22:35:58 -0800 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: <20141213164745.354b241d@phoenix.squirrel.nl> References:

<20141213164745.354b241d@phoenix.squirrel.nl> Message-ID: <20141213223558.7282402f.itz@buug.org> On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 16:47:45 +0100, Johan Vromans wrote: thewildbeast> "When inserting a file into a current message via Ctrl-I thewildbeast> or via the menu during compose Message->Insert file, claws thewildbeast> uses the file extension to correctly or incorrectly thewildbeast> determine the file type and decide what kind of file we're thewildbeast> inserting. If claws is unable to determine the file type thewildbeast> it will fail, going silent, but will raise an assert to thewildbeast> stdout, so go look for stdout output your self. You may thewildbeast> also scratch your head if that's what you want to do." Johan> In modern desktop environments, the user won't be able to view Johan> stdout output at all, so this is not helping. You don't have this problem if you use an external editor. I know this may not help you either, but I think it is worth saying for the record. -- Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages. Rule 420: All persons more than eight miles high to leave the court. Local Variables: mode:claws-external End: From pg.nikolic1 at gmail.com Sun Dec 14 09:10:36 2014 From: pg.nikolic1 at gmail.com (pete nikolic) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 08:10:36 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: <20141213235047.23779d54@phoenix.squirrel.nl> References:

<20141213164745.354b241d@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20141213185923.6be199db@7-of-9> <20141213235047.23779d54@phoenix.squirrel.nl> Message-ID: <20141214081036.6be4f261@7-of-9> On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 23:50:47 +0100 Johan Vromans wrote: > On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 18:59:23 +0000 > pete nikolic wrote: > > > Sorry maybe i am thinking wrong here BUT > > > > Why are you trying to insert a file into a mail when possibly you would > > do better Attaching it to said mail .. > > Sometimes you want to include something (a snippet of text, a piece of > output) *in* the body of message. Attaching is better for complete > documents or non-text data. > > -- Johan > > The following signature was Inserted from file: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Johan Vromans jvromans at squirrel.nl > Squirrel Consultancy Exloo, the Netherlands > http://www.squirrel.nl http://johan.vromans.org > PGP Key 1024D/1298C2B4 http://johan.vromans.org/pgpkey.html > ---------------------- "Arms are made for hugging" ----------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users But if said file is unsuitable for inclusion in the message body then what is the point of trying to force the issue seems a bit cack handed to me . Pete -- Illegitimi non carborundum . ro for the purists out there Noli nothis permittere te terere. From jvromans at squirrel.nl Sun Dec 14 09:56:05 2014 From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 09:56:05 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: <20141214095552.1f190a8b@phoenix.squirrel.nl> References:

<20141213164745.354b241d@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20141213185923.6be199db@7-of-9> <20141213235047.23779d54@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20141214081036.6be4f261@7-of-9> <20141214095552.1f190a8b@phoenix.squirrel.nl> Message-ID: <20141214095605.54a31ef1@phoenix.squirrel.nl> On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 09:55:52 +0100 Johan Vromans wrote: > But if said file is unsuitable for inclusion in the message body then > > what is the point of trying to force the issue seems a bit cack handed > > to me . > > If you read the OP mail, then you'll understand he was trying to insert a > file that was assumed to be ok but apparently was not. The issue is not > how to force inclusion, the issue is that CM *silently* refuses to insert > the file. And silently refusing to do something is not user friendly. > > -- Johan From jvromans at squirrel.nl Sun Dec 14 09:57:37 2014 From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 09:57:37 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: <20141214081036.6be4f261@7-of-9> References:

<20141213164745.354b241d@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20141213185923.6be199db@7-of-9> <20141213235047.23779d54@phoenix.squirrel.nl> <20141214081036.6be4f261@7-of-9> Message-ID: <20141214095737.5ea388b5@phoenix.squirrel.nl> > But if said file is unsuitable for inclusion in the message body then > what is the point of trying to force the issue seems a bit cack handed to > me . If you read the OP mail, then you'll understand he was trying to insert a file that was assumed to be ok but apparently was not. The issue is not how to force inclusion, the issue is that CM *silently* refuses to insert the file. And silently refusing to do something is not user friendly. -- Johan From moorray3 at wp.pl Sun Dec 14 13:24:33 2014 From: moorray3 at wp.pl (Jakub Kicinski) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 13:24:33 +0100 Subject: [Users] [pull request] Fix crashes due to lack of synchronization with the IMAP thread Message-ID: <20141214132433.1c53a51b@north> Hello! I fixed an annoying bug caused by mailimap being freed in the GUI thread while the worker thread was still working on it. The changes are available in the git repository at: git at github.com:kuba-moo/claws-mail.git for-master Please consider pulling or instruct me how best to propose the changes. I haven't seen anyone posting patches straight to the ML so I thought a "pull request" could be better? Regards -- Jakub Kicinski ---------------------------------------------------------------- Jakub Kicinski (3): Swap return value and argument of imap_threaded_capability() Synchronize mailimap deletion against async operations Use memset to initialize struct etpan_thread_op src/etpan/etpan-thread-manager.c | 15 +---- src/etpan/imap-thread.c | 138 +++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------- src/etpan/imap-thread.h | 2 +- src/etpan/nntp-thread.c | 6 +- src/imap.c | 4 +- 5 files changed, 96 insertions(+), 69 deletions(-) From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Dec 15 13:16:54 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:16:54 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3349 --- Comment #13 from Ricardo Mones --- Created attachment 1460 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1460&action=edit Improve user feedback in this case The proposed patch ensures the returned UTF-8 is valid one and warns the user if it's not possible to insert the file because of failed code conversion. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 12 20:42:05 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 19:42:05 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3351] Two problems when re-sending a file with an attachment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3351 --- Comment #5 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2014-12-15 22:45:02.460604311 +0100 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=87be2c0ce19e48dd629f7450757892383cef4f23 Merge: 08b6971 656c173 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Mon Dec 15 22:45:02 2014 +0100 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=656c1735cc75f73417ea1913355778bd4ecbc4fb Author: Paul Date: Mon Dec 15 21:42:25 2014 +0000 fix bug 3351, 'Two problems when re-sending a file with an attachment' (really one problem, though) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Dec 16 11:19:40 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 10:19:40 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3352] New: Wrong filtering when sender's address is associate with a PGP key Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3352 Bug ID: 3352 Summary: Wrong filtering when sender's address is associate with a PGP key Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.11.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: minor Priority: P3 Component: Filtering Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: torsten.woertwein at student.kit.edu Filtering based on testing whether a sender's address is in an address book fails when the sender's address is additional imported by the PGP plugin. In my case, the first rule depended on a address book look-up is chosen (the sender's address is not in the checked address book but the address is associate with an imported PGP key). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Dec 16 11:27:11 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 10:27:11 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3352] Wrong filtering when sender's address is associate with a PGP key In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3352 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Paul --- The PGP plugin does not import addresses. I don't really understand what you are trying to describe. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Dec 16 12:26:42 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:26:42 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 1769] vCalendar timezone glitches In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1769 --- Comment #9 from Darko --- Created attachment 1461 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1461&action=edit vcalendar patch Attempt at fixing time zone stuff in vcalendar meeting requests. I have tested it against couple of meeting requests at work. The requests have originated in different parts of the world and all seem to display fine. Note that this patch does not handle daylight saving time stuff. I have one recuring meeting request that was created while DST was in effect and it displays fine on winter time (it was created in my local time zone however so no guarantees it might work for all meeting requests). The patch performs the following tasks: 1. Extract UTC offset from the meeting request 2. Convert the event time to UTC time by substracting the offset from step 1. 3. Calculate UTC offset for local time zone 4. Conver the event time from UTC time to local time by adding the UTC offset from step 3. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Dec 16 12:28:24 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:28:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 1769] vCalendar timezone glitches In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1769 --- Comment #10 from Darko --- One more thing regarding my previous comment. To apply the patch: cd /top/of/claws-mail/tree patch -p0 < /path/to/vcalendar.patch Of course you have to recompile claws-mail to test the patch. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Dec 16 13:39:25 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 12:39:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3352] Wrong filtering when sender's address is associate with a PGP key In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3352 --- Comment #2 from torsten.woertwein at student.kit.edu --- Well, the auto complete in the address field also uses entries from PGP-Keys. I have a filtering rule which checks whether the sender is in a specific address book and moves the message to a folder. Normally, that works as expected: if a person is in this address book the message is moved to the specified folder. However, if the sender's address is also in a PGP-Key, the message is moved to the specified folder, too. Even if the sender is not in the specified address book. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Dec 16 14:05:00 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 13:05:00 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3352] Wrong filtering when sender's address is associate with a PGP key In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3352 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID |--- -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Dec 17 08:03:39 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 07:03:39 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3351] Two problems when re-sending a file with an attachment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3351 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From bxstover at yahoo.co.uk Tue Dec 16 07:03:54 2014 From: bxstover at yahoo.co.uk (Ben Stover) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 07:03:54 +0100 Subject: [Users] How to move the mail storage folder Message-ID: <204.39878.bm@smtp118.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> As far as I can see all incoming eMails (and other stuff) are stored (under Win) in base folder C:\Users\P\AppData\Roaming\Claws-Mail\ How can I move this base folder (if possible for all accounts at once) e.g. to D:\work\private\claws\msgs\ I found no correspondings setting in preferences Ben From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Dec 15 13:16:54 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:16:54 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3349 --- Comment #14 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2014-12-17 17:10:02.557606222 +0100 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=da6173fe104763f38293b3346d9b07d44ea1e6b2 Merge: 87be2c0 ff2f663 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Wed Dec 17 17:10:02 2014 +0100 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=ff2f663ebca80be4991c71be724d5a29ef5a3bdf Author: Ricardo Mones Date: Wed Dec 17 16:45:12 2014 +0100 Improve feedback to user when bug #3349 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Dec 17 17:51:33 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 16:51:33 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3348] Contact pictures not deleted when contact is deleted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3348 --- Comment #6 from Ricardo Mones --- (In reply to comment #5) > No but the file itself could be hardlinked. Well maybe that's a very > specific setup :-). AFAIK if the file is hard linked the deletion only removes one link, hence the file isn't actually deleted until the number of hard links is 1, so even in that case it's safe to remove it (even when using shred, see claws_unlink in utils.c). The problematic case would be shared pictures but _not_ hard linked :) Anyway I disagree with the idea of returning a constructed path. I'm more inclined to build the path on the caller side and left the addrbook API untouched. If later more callers appear it can be considered if the API should be modified or not. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Dec 17 17:52:51 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 16:52:51 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3348] Contact pictures not deleted when contact is deleted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3348 --- Comment #7 from Ricardo Mones --- (In reply to comment #6) > (In reply to comment #5) > > No but the file itself could be hardlinked. Well maybe that's a very > > specific setup :-). > > AFAIK if the file is hard linked the deletion only removes one link, hence > the file isn't actually deleted until the number of hard links is 1, so even > in that case it's safe to remove it (even when using shred, see claws_unlink > in utils.c). > > The problematic case would be shared pictures but _not_ hard linked :) > > Anyway I disagree with the idea of returning a constructed path. I'm more > inclined to build the path on the caller side and left the addrbook API > untouched. s/left/leave/ :-) > If later more callers appear it can be considered if the API should be > modified or not. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Dec 17 19:24:56 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 18:24:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3348] Contact pictures not deleted when contact is deleted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3348 --- Comment #8 from Charles Lehner --- (In reply to comment #6) > Anyway I disagree with the idea of returning a constructed path. I'm more > inclined to build the path on the caller side and left the addrbook API > untouched. > > If later more callers appear it can be considered if the API should be > modified or not. What is the use of the addrbook API returning the picture other than as a constructed path? The callers of addritem_person_get_picture are using the result as a filename, and so their operations are failing silently (except when the picture is from an LDAP query, it looks like). See addressbook_del_clicked, addrduplicates_delete_item_person, and addrindex_get_picture_file (which is used in headerview.c and textview.c). Caller-side operations which succeed are not using addritem_person_get_picture(person), but are using person->picture and then constructing the filename, so the proposed patch does not affect them. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Dec 17 19:31:12 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 18:31:12 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3352] found_in_addressbook matches entries from GPG keyring In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3352 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|Wrong filtering when |found_in_addressbook |sender's address is |matches entries from GPG |associate with a PGP key |keyring -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From linux at slavino.sk Wed Dec 17 21:25:13 2014 From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 21:25:13 +0100 Subject: [Users] OpenPGPG & PGP inline messages store decrypted Message-ID: <20141217212513.0826eff2@bonifac> Hi all, please, i have a lot of gpg encrypted messages from my servers and the CM's GPG plugin work well with both, the OpenPGP and the PGP/Inline forms. But, when the messages are stored in encrypted form, i am not able to process them by the message content, then i search the solution how to store them in plain text form. Most of them are logwatch reports, fail2ban reports, etc and i dont see reason to store them encrypted (if someone hack my machine, then this one can get more useful information, than he can get from these files). For now i have simple script to copy the headers part and add the decrypted message body (PGP/Inline) to the temp file and finally replace the original message file (for now two separate scripts for OpenPGP and PGP/Inline, but i will merge them in near future). This script is executed as Action from my menu bar and seems to work as expected, but i initially want to create it as filter (test) but i fail with this and then decided to make action. But after the message is decrypted and copied back, the message in messages list stays with the key icon (i think as encryption indicator). I can remove this icon only by manually deleting the cache file in particular directory, but this removes all my marks (mostly Mark as read and Color mark). In documentation i read something about "Clear cache" in the folder properties, but it seems, that it not option for my directory (POP3). Please, how i can remove this icon, to i can visually distinguish the encrypted and not encrypted messages? Or is here a better solution? thanks -- Slavko http://slavino.sk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 473 bytes Desc: Digitálny podpis OpenPGP URL: From codejodler at gmx.ch Wed Dec 17 22:24:27 2014 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 22:24:27 +0100 Subject: [Users] dynamic keyboard shortcuts Message-ID: <20141217222427.3ce31742@mirrors.kernel.org> Why can i not assign 'h' (no modifier) to show only read messages, in message list view ? From codejodler at gmx.ch Wed Dec 17 22:59:34 2014 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 22:59:34 +0100 Subject: [Users] delay when sending Message-ID: <20141217225934.2a71f594@mirrors.kernel.org> Just out of curiosity, with POP accounts, when i click 'send' (off the Q) then claws waits for about 3 seconds before it happens. Is it for the ssl /tls negotiations, and password login ? From dan_arico at aricosystems.com Wed Dec 17 23:11:15 2014 From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 17:11:15 -0500 Subject: [Users] delay when sending In-Reply-To: <20141217225934.2a71f594@mirrors.kernel.org> References: <20141217225934.2a71f594@mirrors.kernel.org> Message-ID: <20141217171115.536bb6b2.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 22:59:34 +0100 Michael wrote: > Just out of curiosity, with POP accounts, when i click 'send' (off > the Q) then claws waits for about 3 seconds before it happens. Is it > for the ssl /tls negotiations, and password login ? I'm having the same problem except it's taking about 15 seconds. I've been monitoring the process and it doesn't appear to be the negotiation. It's waiting for something before negotiation. Dan Arico -- One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them, One OS to bring them all, and in the Darkness bind them, In the land of Redmond, where the Sales Reps lie. From itz at buug.org Wed Dec 17 23:24:09 2014 From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 14:24:09 -0800 Subject: [Users] dynamic keyboard shortcuts In-Reply-To: <20141217222427.3ce31742@mirrors.kernel.org> References: <20141217222427.3ce31742@mirrors.kernel.org> Message-ID: <20141217142409.2b38c710.itz@buug.org> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 22:24:27 +0100, Michael wrote: Michael> Why can i not assign 'h' (no modifier) to show only read Michael> messages, in message list view ? Most likely you already have bound 'h' to a different menu item. You'll have to find and change that binding first. -- Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages. Rule 420: All persons more than eight miles high to leave the court. Local Variables: mode:claws-external End: From codejodler at gmx.ch Wed Dec 17 23:24:51 2014 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 23:24:51 +0100 Subject: [Users] delay when sending In-Reply-To: <20141217171115.536bb6b2.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> References: <20141217225934.2a71f594@mirrors.kernel.org> <20141217171115.536bb6b2.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> Message-ID: <20141217232451.548b42bf@mirrors.kernel.org> Dan, well i can see an initial short 'ping' on my network monitor From itz at buug.org Thu Dec 18 01:10:41 2014 From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 16:10:41 -0800 Subject: [Users] delay when sending In-Reply-To: <20141217232451.548b42bf@mirrors.kernel.org> References: <20141217225934.2a71f594@mirrors.kernel.org> <20141217171115.536bb6b2.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20141217232451.548b42bf@mirrors.kernel.org> Message-ID: <20141217161041.6af6a4eb.itz@buug.org> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 23:24:51 +0100, Michael wrote: > well i can see an initial short 'ping' on my network monitor Domain name resolution? -- Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages. Rule 420: All persons more than eight miles high to leave the court. Local Variables: mode:claws-external End: From dan_arico at aricosystems.com Thu Dec 18 01:36:31 2014 From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 19:36:31 -0500 Subject: [Users] delay when sending In-Reply-To: <20141217161041.6af6a4eb.itz@buug.org> References: <20141217225934.2a71f594@mirrors.kernel.org> <20141217171115.536bb6b2.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20141217232451.548b42bf@mirrors.kernel.org> <20141217161041.6af6a4eb.itz@buug.org> Message-ID: <20141217193631.1b6a1e8b.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 16:10:41 -0800 Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 23:24:51 +0100, > Michael wrote: > > > well i can see an initial short 'ping' on my network monitor > > Domain name resolution? > That's what I suspected might be causing my delay, but I see no delay with a ping to the mail server. I'm stumped. Dan Arico -- One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them, One OS to bring them all, and in the Darkness bind them, In the land of Redmond, where the Sales Reps lie. From codejodler at gmx.ch Thu Dec 18 01:45:46 2014 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 01:45:46 +0100 Subject: [Users] dynamic keyboard shortcuts In-Reply-To: <20141217142409.2b38c710.itz@buug.org> References: <20141217222427.3ce31742@mirrors.kernel.org> <20141217142409.2b38c710.itz@buug.org> Message-ID: <20141218014546.73e238a7@mirrors.kernel.org> Ian, no its not because i press 'h' and nothing happens. Where should i look ? From itz at buug.org Thu Dec 18 02:23:20 2014 From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 17:23:20 -0800 Subject: [Users] dynamic keyboard shortcuts In-Reply-To: <20141218014546.73e238a7@mirrors.kernel.org> References: <20141217222427.3ce31742@mirrors.kernel.org> <20141217142409.2b38c710.itz@buug.org> <20141218014546.73e238a7@mirrors.kernel.org> Message-ID: <20141217172320.7d81a397.itz@buug.org> On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 01:45:46 +0100, Michael wrote: Michael> no its not Michael> because i press 'h' and nothing happens. Michael> Where should i look ? ~/.claws-mail/menurc -- Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages. Rule 420: All persons more than eight miles high to leave the court. Local Variables: mode:claws-external End: From codejodler at gmx.ch Thu Dec 18 04:11:16 2014 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 04:11:16 +0100 Subject: [Users] dynamic keyboard shortcuts In-Reply-To: <20141217172320.7d81a397.itz@buug.org> References: <20141217222427.3ce31742@mirrors.kernel.org> <20141217142409.2b38c710.itz@buug.org> <20141218014546.73e238a7@mirrors.kernel.org> <20141217172320.7d81a397.itz@buug.org> Message-ID: <20141218041116.4b56d049@mirrors.kernel.org> > ~/.claws-mail/menurc i searched it for anything ending with h" but, nope. I can, for example, apply 'j'. But i really want just 'h'. If h was already occupied then why nothing happens when i press it. From itz at buug.org Thu Dec 18 05:21:08 2014 From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 20:21:08 -0800 Subject: [Users] dynamic keyboard shortcuts In-Reply-To: <20141218041116.4b56d049@mirrors.kernel.org> References: <20141217222427.3ce31742@mirrors.kernel.org> <20141217142409.2b38c710.itz@buug.org> <20141218014546.73e238a7@mirrors.kernel.org> <20141217172320.7d81a397.itz@buug.org> <20141218041116.4b56d049@mirrors.kernel.org> Message-ID: <20141217202108.473c772c.itz@buug.org> On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 04:11:16 +0100, Michael wrote: Michael> I can, for example, apply 'j'. But i really want just 'h'. If Michael> h was already occupied then why nothing happens when i press Michael> it. Ah, now I see. Nothing like trying it myself. :-) The problem is that "h" is part of the full keyboard activation sequence (i.e. not a shortcut) for the "Hide read messages" item, that is, Alt-V H. Thus, when you open the menu and press "h", it merely highlights that item. You should still be able to do what you want by editing the menurc file when Claws is not running. Myself I try to avoid this kind of conflict, however. -- Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages. Rule 420: All persons more than eight miles high to leave the court. Local Variables: mode:claws-external End: From bxstover at yahoo.co.uk Thu Dec 18 07:51:04 2014 From: bxstover at yahoo.co.uk (Ben Stover) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 07:51:04 +0100 Subject: [Users] Export and Import to EML format possible? Converter mbox<--->EML Message-ID: <22382.63079.bm@smtp132.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Is it possible to export a message folder tree to an folder tree with EML files for each message? Or can I convert the mbox somehow to EML folder tree? Is it at least possible to import an EML message folder tree? Ben From codejodler at gmx.ch Thu Dec 18 08:00:56 2014 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 08:00:56 +0100 Subject: [Users] dynamic keyboard shortcuts In-Reply-To: <20141217202108.473c772c.itz@buug.org> References: <20141217222427.3ce31742@mirrors.kernel.org> <20141217142409.2b38c710.itz@buug.org> <20141218014546.73e238a7@mirrors.kernel.org> <20141217172320.7d81a397.itz@buug.org> <20141218041116.4b56d049@mirrors.kernel.org> <20141217202108.473c772c.itz@buug.org> Message-ID: <20141218080056.47e431fc@mirrors.kernel.org> Ian, > The problem is that "h" is part of the full keyboard activation sequence > (i.e. not a shortcut) for the "Hide read messages" item, that is, Alt-V > H. I see ! wow, that's funny. > You should still be able to do what you want by editing the menurc file > when Claws is not running. Yepp, worx ! Well i never use the Alt menu modifiers. many thanks ! From moorray3 at wp.pl Thu Dec 18 10:13:49 2014 From: moorray3 at wp.pl (Jakub =?UTF-8?B?S2ljacWEc2tp?=) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 10:13:49 +0100 Subject: [Users] [pull request] Fix crashes due to lack of synchronization with the IMAP thread In-Reply-To: <20141214132433.1c53a51b@north> References: <20141214132433.1c53a51b@north> Message-ID: <20141218101349.1719d5ad@north> On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 13:24:33 +0100, Jakub Kicinski wrote: > Hello! > > I fixed an annoying bug caused by mailimap being freed in the GUI > thread while the worker thread was still working on it. The changes > are available in the git repository at: > > git at github.com:kuba-moo/claws-mail.git for-master > > Please consider pulling or instruct me how best to propose the changes. > I haven't seen anyone posting patches straight to the ML so I thought > a "pull request" could be better? Any comments on this? -- kuba From colin at colino.net Thu Dec 18 10:13:55 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 10:13:55 +0100 Subject: [Users] [pull request] Fix crashes due to lack of synchronization with the IMAP thread In-Reply-To: <20141218101349.1719d5ad@north> References: <20141214132433.1c53a51b@north> <20141218101349.1719d5ad@north> Message-ID: <20141218101355.3240248a@colin.i-run.lau> On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 10:13:49 +0100, Jakub Kiciński wrote: > > Please consider pulling or instruct me how best to propose the > > changes. I haven't seen anyone posting patches straight to the ML > > so I thought a "pull request" could be better? > > Any comments on this? "Oops ! Forgot to look at it" :) Doing so now. Thanks! -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From colin at colino.net Thu Dec 18 10:26:49 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 10:26:49 +0100 Subject: [Users] [pull request] Fix crashes due to lack of synchronization with the IMAP thread In-Reply-To: <20141214132433.1c53a51b@north> References: <20141214132433.1c53a51b@north> Message-ID: <20141218102649.6355a4d3@colin.i-run.lau> On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 13:24:33 +0100, Jakub Kicinski wrote: > Please consider pulling or instruct me how best to propose the > changes. I haven't seen anyone posting patches straight to the ML so > I thought a "pull request" could be better? Thanks! Merged. -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Thu Dec 18 13:44:44 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 12:44:44 +0000 Subject: [Users] [pull request] Fix crashes due to lack of synchronization with the IMAP thread In-Reply-To: <20141218103226.5987ace8@north> References: <20141214132433.1c53a51b@north> <20141218102649.6355a4d3@colin.i-run.lau> <20141218103226.5987ace8@north> Message-ID: <20141218124444.00000ee0@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 10:32:26 +0100 Jakub Kiciński wrote: > On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 10:26:49 +0100, Colin Leroy wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 13:24:33 +0100, Jakub Kicinski > > wrote: > > > > > Please consider pulling or instruct me how best to propose the > > > changes. I haven't seen anyone posting patches straight to the ML > > > so I thought a "pull request" could be better? > > > > Thanks! Merged. > > Thanks! Much appreciated too, although I don't see too many IMAP issues anything that improves the robustness of Claws is a good thing. Colin, is there any further news on 3.11.1 for Win32? -- Brian Morrison From colin at colino.net Thu Dec 18 13:48:15 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 13:48:15 +0100 Subject: [Users] [pull request] Fix crashes due to lack of synchronization with the IMAP thread In-Reply-To: <20141218124444.00000ee0@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> References: <20141214132433.1c53a51b@north> <20141218102649.6355a4d3@colin.i-run.lau> <20141218103226.5987ace8@north> <20141218124444.00000ee0@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: <20141218134815.4c9238c0@colin.i-run.lau> On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 12:44:44 +0000, Brian Morrison wrote: Hi, > Colin, is there any further news on 3.11.1 for Win32? Sorry, still not. Spent a few hours on it the other day, without success for now. -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From moorray3 at wp.pl Thu Dec 18 14:01:16 2014 From: moorray3 at wp.pl (Jakub =?UTF-8?B?S2ljacWEc2tp?=) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 14:01:16 +0100 Subject: [Users] [pull request] Fix crashes due to lack of synchronization with the IMAP thread In-Reply-To: <20141218124444.00000ee0@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> References: <20141214132433.1c53a51b@north> <20141218102649.6355a4d3@colin.i-run.lau> <20141218103226.5987ace8@north> <20141218124444.00000ee0@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: <20141218140116.17cc3e8d@north> On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 12:44:44 +0000, Brian Morrison wrote: > On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 10:32:26 +0100 > Jakub Kiciński wrote: > > > On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 10:26:49 +0100, Colin Leroy wrote: > > > On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 13:24:33 +0100, Jakub Kicinski > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Please consider pulling or instruct me how best to propose the > > > > changes. I haven't seen anyone posting patches straight to the ML > > > > so I thought a "pull request" could be better? > > > > > > Thanks! Merged. > > > > Thanks! > > Much appreciated too, although I don't see too many IMAP issues > anything that improves the robustness of Claws is a good thing. It's kind of a race condition so it takes a while to trigger. Especially that it can only be activated when mailimap is destroyed, so when everything is operating properly claws is ok. I run into it because my IMAP server got broken at it was dropping connections all the time. And even then there was no more than one crash per day. -- kuba From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Thu Dec 18 14:31:06 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 13:31:06 +0000 Subject: [Users] [pull request] Fix crashes due to lack of synchronization with the IMAP thread In-Reply-To: <20141218140116.17cc3e8d@north> References: <20141214132433.1c53a51b@north> <20141218102649.6355a4d3@colin.i-run.lau> <20141218103226.5987ace8@north> <20141218124444.00000ee0@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20141218140116.17cc3e8d@north> Message-ID: <20141218133106.000054cd@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 14:01:16 +0100 Jakub Kiciński wrote: > > Much appreciated too, although I don't see too many IMAP issues > > anything that improves the robustness of Claws is a good thing. > > It's kind of a race condition so it takes a while to trigger. > Especially that it can only be activated when mailimap is destroyed, > so when everything is operating properly claws is ok. I run into it > because my IMAP server got broken at it was dropping connections all > the time. And even then there was no more than one crash per day. It's good news that you found it, with luck that means it can't trigger again if someone changes the code in widely deployed IMAP server software :) -- Brian Morrison From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Dec 18 14:43:41 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 13:43:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3353] New: unify date/time stamping of all console/log messages Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3353 Bug ID: 3353 Summary: unify date/time stamping of all console/log messages Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: Other Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: pf at pfortin.com I see a lot of konsole messages and log messages with missing timestamps (date or date&time) which makes it difficult to associate these messages with what's going on. Please unify all konsole/log output so that all messages are date/time stamped. Providing settings to enable/disable date and/or time stamps would be OK, though I would choose to display date/time everywhere for the above reason. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From pf at pfortin.com Thu Dec 18 14:56:38 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 08:56:38 -0500 Subject: [Users] delay when sending In-Reply-To: <20141217193631.1b6a1e8b.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> References: <20141217225934.2a71f594@mirrors.kernel.org> <20141217171115.536bb6b2.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20141217232451.548b42bf@mirrors.kernel.org> <20141217161041.6af6a4eb.itz@buug.org> <20141217193631.1b6a1e8b.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> Message-ID: <20141218085638.1c98d890@pfortin.com> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 19:36:31 -0500 Dan Arico wrote: >That's what I suspected might be causing my delay, but I see no delay >with a ping to the mail server. I'm stumped. Time for wireshark... From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Thu Dec 18 14:59:40 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 13:59:40 +0000 Subject: [Users] [pull request] Fix crashes due to lack of synchronization with the IMAP thread In-Reply-To: <20141218134815.4c9238c0@colin.i-run.lau> References: <20141214132433.1c53a51b@north> <20141218102649.6355a4d3@colin.i-run.lau> <20141218103226.5987ace8@north> <20141218124444.00000ee0@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20141218134815.4c9238c0@colin.i-run.lau> Message-ID: <20141218135940.00006006@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 13:48:15 +0100 Colin Leroy wrote: > On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 12:44:44 +0000, Brian Morrison > wrote: > > Hi, > > > Colin, is there any further news on 3.11.1 for Win32? > > Sorry, still not. Spent a few hours on it the other day, without > success for now. > Fair enough, I assume this is all tied up with gpg4win? -- Brian Morrison From colin at colino.net Thu Dec 18 15:03:48 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 15:03:48 +0100 Subject: [Users] [pull request] Fix crashes due to lack of synchronization with the IMAP thread In-Reply-To: <20141218135940.00006006@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> References: <20141214132433.1c53a51b@north> <20141218102649.6355a4d3@colin.i-run.lau> <20141218103226.5987ace8@north> <20141218124444.00000ee0@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20141218134815.4c9238c0@colin.i-run.lau> <20141218135940.00006006@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: <20141218150348.2bd975df@colin.i-run.lau> On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 13:59:40 +0000, Brian Morrison wrote: > > Sorry, still not. Spent a few hours on it the other day, without > > success for now. > > > > Fair enough, I assume this is all tied up with gpg4win? Mostly to building webkit with newer versions of bison/yacc. -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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When ever I did something in the GUI which caused a change of focus from one account to another or when the implementation did the required refresh every 29 minuts the IDLE thread would crash and hang forever if focus was changed from the account which open an IDLE thread last. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it. -- Groucho Marx -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From bugreporter at abwesend.de Thu Dec 18 19:08:21 2014 From: bugreporter at abwesend.de (Michael Schwendt) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 19:08:21 +0100 Subject: [Users] [pull request] Fix crashes due to lack of synchronization with the IMAP thread In-Reply-To: <20141218101349.1719d5ad@north> References: <20141214132433.1c53a51b@north> <20141218101349.1719d5ad@north> Message-ID: <20141218190821.2cb45de3@gmx.net> On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 10:13:49 +0100, Jakub Kiciński wrote: > > git at github.com:kuba-moo/claws-mail.git for-master > > > > Please consider pulling or instruct me how best to propose the changes. > > I haven't seen anyone posting patches straight to the ML so I thought > > a "pull request" could be better? > > Any comments on this? Interesting! https://github.com/kuba-moo/claws-mail/commit/7d5e6ca5a32586434e0ecaa2ce16dc1ce7419b91 From jsaraceno at gmail.com Thu Dec 18 21:26:46 2014 From: jsaraceno at gmail.com (Jorge Saraceno) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 17:26:46 -0300 Subject: [Users] How do I make Claws Mail the default mail application in Windows 7 Pro? Message-ID: Hi Guys, Pls, I need of your support... I have installed Claws Mail version 3.10.1 in Win 7 Pro and everything work very well, but I have a problem: Claws Mail does not appears in the Setup Default Programs list, so, when I want to use the" send by email option" over a file, nothing happen because in my computer "there is no email program"... If I go to Start/All The Programs, Claws Mail appears listed with the other applications in my computer... Pls, can everyone help me and tell me how can I fix this? Thanks in advance for your kindly support Best regards, Jorge Saraceno From codejodler at gmx.ch Thu Dec 18 21:35:03 2014 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 21:35:03 +0100 Subject: [Users] delay when sending In-Reply-To: <20141218085638.1c98d890@pfortin.com> References: <20141217225934.2a71f594@mirrors.kernel.org> <20141217171115.536bb6b2.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20141217232451.548b42bf@mirrors.kernel.org> <20141217161041.6af6a4eb.itz@buug.org> <20141217193631.1b6a1e8b.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20141218085638.1c98d890@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20141218213503.3e3d61ef@mirrors.kernel.org> Launched ws but i can't reproduce it right now. I have 'options rotate' in resolv.conf and several dns server, so that could be an explanation. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 19 01:02:15 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 00:02:15 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3293] Sometimes imapcache produces wrong email contents In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3293 --- Comment #11 from linux+clawsbugtracker at jcf.pm --- I am also seeing this problem in recent versions of claws, including 3.11.1 on ubuntu trusty installed from the ppa. This problem is NOT limited to gmail, as this happens with a completely unrelated imap server for me. Furthermore, the relevant inbox is accessed from a single claws-mail install only, and not used by any other means (i.e. webmail or mobile phone) yet the bug still happens. Other than that, I can confirm most of what is said in prior messages, esp. #6. The bug seems to be triggered when receiving messages that are moved into a subdir by a filtering rule. It is irrelevant whether or not the filtering rule also marks the message as read. Everything appears normal in the summary view at first glance, but upon opening any email the message body displayed may be (a copy of) a different message not matching the subject/sender as visible in the summary view. Opening the 'source view' for an affected email displays the actual subject/sender/etc matching the initially displayed message body. Not all messages are broken, but it happens often enough for daily problems even on a moderate amount of traffic (e.g. debian mentors mailing list). Discarding the folder cache indeed works as a (temporary, and slow) workaround, at least until the next round of new mail arrives. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From moorray3 at wp.pl Fri Dec 19 02:42:20 2014 From: moorray3 at wp.pl (Jakub =?UTF-8?B?S2ljacWEc2tp?=) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 02:42:20 +0100 Subject: [Users] [pull request] Fix crashes due to lack of synchronization with the IMAP thread In-Reply-To: <20141218190228.62ec69a1@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20141214132433.1c53a51b@north> <20141218102649.6355a4d3@colin.i-run.lau> <20141218103226.5987ace8@north> <20141218124444.00000ee0@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20141218190228.62ec69a1@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20141219024220.46aaa973@north> On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 19:02:28 +0100, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 12:44:44 +0000 Brian Morrison wrote: > > > > Much appreciated too, although I don't see too many IMAP issues > > anything that improves the robustness of Claws is a good thing. > > The more I study this patch the more I am convinced that this bug was > the sole reason to my failing implementation of IMAP IDLE. When ever I > did something in the GUI which caused a change of focus from one > account to another or when the implementation did the required refresh > every 29 minuts the IDLE thread would crash and hang forever if focus > was changed from the account which open an IDLE thread last. Well, I think the way the IMAP threading is implemented right now is *really* fragile. The GUI thread dispatches some work to the worker and then it runs the event loop waiting for the worker to finish... with a stack full of local pointers/local variables which can get stale at any point! I didn't get much exposure to GTK and especially it's threading model but I'm inclined to think it's not what imap-thread.c looks like. It can crash in so many weird and surprising ways that if anyone is considering doing serious work on IMAP it may actually save you time to fix the threading first instead of dealing with all the strange bugs. It may be quite a bit of work though, like a full rewrite but still - better than deciphering random use-after-free conditions. Sorry for criticising the code. I don't want you to get the impression that I fixed all the issues, my patch is more of a workaround actually. -- kuba From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 19 16:21:03 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 15:21:03 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3354] New: Event cancellation uses incorrect method parameter for Content-Type header Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3354 Bug ID: 3354 Summary: Event cancellation uses incorrect method parameter for Content-Type header Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.11.1 Hardware: All URL: https://bugs.debian.org/773487 OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/vCalendar Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: mones at users.sourceforge.net Quoting original submitter: ---------- I have been experimenting with Claws Mail for calendaring and found that when cancelling events as an organiser, Claws (or rather the vCalendar plugin) sends a mail with an inappropriate Content-Type parameter for the scheduling method. According to RFC 6047 (iMIP)... "The [RFC2045] "Content-Type" header field MUST also include the MIME parameter "method". The value MUST be the same (ignoring case) as the value of the "METHOD" property within the iCalendar object." http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6047#section-2.4 However, in a cancellation object, METHOD will be CANCEL, and thus the Content-Type must also employ a method parameter with the value "CANCEL". Instead, Claws' vCalendar plugin seems to use "REQUEST". The upstream code that is probably responsible for this is here: http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=blob;f=src/plugins/vcalendar/vcal_manager.c;h=a21c6a859f888fa3f8950e381dc4f9122e9903f3;hb=HEAD#l1238 Here is what is produced: Content-Type: text/calendar; method=REQUEST; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <20141218231403.3f080abd.paul.boddie at example.com> BEGIN:VCALENDAR VERSION :2.0 PRODID :-//Claws Mail//NONSGML Claws Mail Calendar//EN CALSCALE :GREGORIAN METHOD :CANCEL Note the mismatch between the Content-Type method value and the iCalendar METHOD property. ---------- Thanks in advance, -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Dec 15 13:16:54 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:16:54 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3349] Unable to insert a file into a message during compose. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3349 --- Comment #15 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2014-12-19 16:26:02.609610050 +0100 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb2051d55440b75e9cbecb408a1a16e9bc82634b Merge: 839e527 2fc36b1 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Fri Dec 19 16:26:02 2014 +0100 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=2fc36b1cd471c4b3e11e5099a85a42415395de01 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Fri Dec 19 16:23:00 2014 +0100 Better fix for bug #3349 (almost all the needed code was there :-) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 19 16:21:03 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 15:21:03 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3354] Event cancellation uses incorrect method parameter for Content-Type header In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3354 --- Comment #1 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2014-12-19 16:30:03.030271179 +0100 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=b3952be7e999e2cef193d16c526d6947d61f4c25 Merge: cb2051d b018455 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Fri Dec 19 16:30:02 2014 +0100 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=b018455356c552441128c1004be4633b9947ff7a Author: Colin Leroy Date: Fri Dec 19 16:26:37 2014 +0100 Fix bug #3354, "Event cancellation uses incorrect method parameter for Content-Type header" -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Dec 19 19:10:34 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 18:10:34 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3348] Contact pictures not deleted when contact is deleted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3348 Charles Lehner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1455|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #9 from Charles Lehner --- Created attachment 1462 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1462&action=edit Fix filename construction for picture deletion Since not changing addritem is a concern, here is an updated patch which fixes the uses of addritem_person_get_picture for picture deletion on the caller side. This fixes the issue of pictures not getting deleted when their contact is deleted. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From colin at colino.net Fri Dec 19 20:15:39 2014 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 20:15:39 +0100 Subject: [Users] [pull request] Fix crashes due to lack of synchronization with the IMAP thread In-Reply-To: <20141219024220.46aaa973@north> References: <20141214132433.1c53a51b@north> <20141218102649.6355a4d3@colin.i-run.lau> <20141218103226.5987ace8@north> <20141218124444.00000ee0@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20141218190228.62ec69a1@sleipner.datanom.net> <20141219024220.46aaa973@north> Message-ID: <20141219201539.74346f08@mike> On 19 December 2014 at 02h42, Jakub Kiciński wrote: Hi, > Sorry for criticising the code. I don't want you to get the impression > that I fixed all the issues, my patch is more of a workaround > actually. Your analysis is rather correct. What should be done is much deeper than that in fact, it goes back all the way to the GUI where things are done synchronously. We'd need everything to be requested (folder check, incorporation, message download) with a callback when it's done. This would be really huge work. -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From ml at terranean.eu Sat Dec 20 07:01:49 2014 From: ml at terranean.eu (=?UTF-8?B?U8OpYmFzdGllbg==?=) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 07:01:49 +0100 Subject: [Users] How to move the mail storage folder In-Reply-To: <204.39878.bm@smtp118.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <204.39878.bm@smtp118.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20141220070149.729884c8@sentinel> On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 07:03:54 +0100, Ben wrote: > How can I move this base folder (if possible for all accounts at > once) e.g. to > > D:\work\private\claws\msgs\ Move the folder there, then add a Mailbox and specify this path. -- Sébastien From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au Sun Dec 21 08:03:06 2014 From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:03:06 +1100 Subject: [Users] theme icons unused? Message-ID: <20141221180306.38b43c12@PPlive> Hi *, Looking at,