From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Aug 1 07:22:20 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2014 05:22:20 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3237] incremental saves to drafts fails when expunge immediately is turned off In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3237 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|Can't open auto saved |incremental saves to drafts |drafts in drafts folder |fails when expunge | |immediately is turned off -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Aug 1 07:24:43 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2014 05:24:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3237] incremental saves to drafts fails when expunge immediately is turned off In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3237 --- Comment #10 from Paul --- Thanks. I now understand what the problem is and can reproduce it. In the meantime, you can turn off incremental saves to drafts or turn on expunge immediately, or in the account advanced preferences, specify a Drafts folder in an MH mailbox (creating the mailbox if necessary). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Aug 1 07:52:56 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2014 05:52:56 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3238] GPG Mime Plugin exports contents to a tmpfile unnecessarily In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3238 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #1 from Paul --- Thanks! Now applied! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Aug 1 14:14:24 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2014 12:14:24 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3237] incremental saves to drafts fails when expunge immediately is turned off In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3237 --- Comment #11 from Dominik Volkamer --- (In reply to comment #10) > Thanks. I now understand what the problem is and can reproduce it. I thank you for your quick help. > In the meantime, you can turn off incremental saves to drafts or turn on > expunge immediately, or in the account advanced preferences, specify a > Drafts folder in an MH mailbox (creating the mailbox if necessary). Sorry but my Claws Mail is set to German, so what exactly do you mean with "incremental saves to drafts"? Do you mean I should turn off the option "Automatically save message to drafts folder every n characters'. (/Configuration/Preferences/Compose/Writing)? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Aug 1 16:52:02 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2014 14:52:02 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3238] GPG Mime Plugin exports contents to a tmpfile unnecessarily In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3238 Kevin Day changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1419|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #2 from Kevin Day --- Created attachment 1420 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1420&action=edit Fixed version where file pointer is correctly closed I just noticed that the file pointer wasn't properly closed after my changes. The code that I removed included the closing of fp (which is the original file and not the temporary file). That file was opened at the start of the function. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Aug 1 19:39:05 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2014 17:39:05 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3239] New: Remove "Content-Disposition: attachment" from PGP/MIME signed messages Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3239 Bug ID: 3239 Summary: Remove "Content-Disposition: attachment" from PGP/MIME signed messages Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: All Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/Privacy Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: tdajd at 6paq.com Created attachment 1421 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1421&action=edit patch to pgpmime.c in git I attach a patch to remove "Content-Disposition: attachment" from PGP/MIME signed messages. This prevents misleading the recipient from thinking that there is a purpose to the attached signature file. This patch causes no change in functionality - all PGP/MIME signing works as before. Tested on latest stable versions of Claws Mail, Thunderbird, Mutt, Evolution, Outlook 2007, Outlook 2010, Outlook 2013. Patch submitted as unified diff against current GIT. The patch is licensed under the same license as Claws Mail. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From olivier at bolender.org Sat Aug 2 00:25:50 2014 From: olivier at bolender.org (Olivier Bolender) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 00:25:50 +0200 Subject: [Users] Search function not recursive / not user friendly Message-ID: <20140802002550.3898114b@computer> Hello Claws Mail : 3.10.1 (and older) Object : Usage of Quick Search function ('/' shortcut) The Quick Search with Advanced and Recurive method is not user friendly, the manifying-glass icon is not enoug, I would like to see all the message like it work when I do a search in a folder with not recurive method. Hope this feature will be implented ! Bug report exist : http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3207 Another post too : http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2014-July/010280.html Olivier From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Aug 2 02:04:37 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2014 00:04:37 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3239] Remove "Content-Disposition: attachment" from PGP/MIME signed messages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3239 Ricardo Mones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1421|application/octet-stream |text/x-diff mime type| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Aug 2 08:41:53 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2014 06:41:53 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3239] Remove "Content-Disposition: attachment" from PGP/MIME signed messages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3239 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1421|0 |1 is patch| | Attachment #1421|text/x-diff |text/plain mime type| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Aug 2 10:07:09 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2014 08:07:09 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3239] Remove "Content-Disposition: attachment" from PGP/MIME signed messages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3239 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #1 from Paul --- applied with a modification. Thanks! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Aug 2 15:30:50 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2014 13:30:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3240] New: Fancy doesn't always send user agent Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3240 Bug ID: 3240 Summary: Fancy doesn't always send user agent Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: FreeBSD Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/Fancy Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: Sylpheed-Claws_user at TheHughesLogcabin.net I am using Claws Mail behind a firewall and web proxy. The proxy has a rule that only allows know software to request web content based on the user agent string. When Fancy does a request it doesn't always pass the user agent. From the pcap data I have looked at so far, it isn't sending the user agent on https request. Emails from Sears have mostly URLs that are https. If needed I can supply an email after I redact any account information. I can open the emails in Firefox without problem. I have looked at the code, but I find it a little hard to follow and haven't figured anything out. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Aug 2 20:06:58 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2014 18:06:58 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2968] Redundant headers in PGP/MIME signed messages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2968 LoseDanger at mailinator.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Version|3.9.1 |GIT Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #3 from LoseDanger at mailinator.com --- Fixed in git. http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commit;h=81b0679965b506fce98bedb70f74f8df70e81312 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Aug 2 20:55:45 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2014 18:55:45 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2968] Redundant headers in PGP/MIME signed messages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2968 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Version|GIT |3.9.1 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From hannes at yllr.net Sun Aug 3 18:56:35 2014 From: hannes at yllr.net (Hannes =?UTF-8?B?U2Now7xsbGVy?=) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 18:56:35 +0200 Subject: [Users] All quotes collapsed by default Message-ID: <20140803185635.78aea3df@workstation> Hi, since a recent system update, all quotes in all mails are now collapsed by default. Although double-clicking uncollapses them, I find this quite annoying and I'd like to change this behaviour. However, I can't find any setting covering this. Speaking of settings, the respective option of a double-click collapsing/uncollapsing also doesn't help. If I unselect it, the quotes still appear collapsed, just that there is no way to expand them anymore! Any pointers would be appreciated! Hannes From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Aug 3 19:24:10 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 18:24:10 +0100 Subject: [Users] All quotes collapsed by default In-Reply-To: <20140803185635.78aea3df@workstation> References: <20140803185635.78aea3df@workstation> Message-ID: <20140803182410.13ddde6a@thewildbeast> On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 18:56:35 +0200 Hannes Schüller wrote: > since a recent system update, all quotes in all mails are now > collapsed by default. Although double-clicking uncollapses them, I > find this quite annoying and I'd like to change this behaviour. > However, I can't find any setting covering this. You need to unset /View/Quotes/Collapse all from the main menu. There have been no changes to the default behaviour of this option. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Aug 3 19:28:44 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 18:28:44 +0100 Subject: [Users] All quotes collapsed by default In-Reply-To: <20140803185635.78aea3df@workstation> References: <20140803185635.78aea3df@workstation> Message-ID: <20140803182844.1f2654a0@thewildbeast> On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 18:56:35 +0200 Hannes Schüller wrote: > since a recent system update, Talking of updates. You should upgrade your Claws Mail, your version was released over 2 years ago and there have been 6 releases since. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From hannes at yllr.net Sun Aug 3 19:37:00 2014 From: hannes at yllr.net (Hannes =?UTF-8?B?U2Now7xsbGVy?=) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 19:37:00 +0200 Subject: [Users] All quotes collapsed by default In-Reply-To: <20140803182410.13ddde6a@thewildbeast> References: <20140803185635.78aea3df@workstation> <20140803182410.13ddde6a@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140803193700.4ee01aae@workstation> Paul wrote: > On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 18:56:35 +0200 > Hannes Schüller wrote: > > > since a recent system update, all quotes in all mails are now > > collapsed by default. Although double-clicking uncollapses them, I > > find this quite annoying and I'd like to change this behaviour. > > However, I can't find any setting covering this. > > You need to unset /View/Quotes/Collapse all from the main menu. Thanks, that did the trick! Hannes From ethy.brito at inexo.com.br Mon Aug 4 21:06:03 2014 From: ethy.brito at inexo.com.br (Ethy H. Brito) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 16:06:03 -0300 Subject: [Users] copy outgoing mail to another folder. How to? Message-ID: <20140804160603.5668f443@pulsar.inexo.com.br> Hi all I need to selectively copy every outgoing mail to another folder besides Sent folder, as CM does when sending. For instance I need every mail sent to "users at lists.claws-mail.org" be copied to both My-Mail and Sent folder. I could use "Processing" copy "new" from "Sent" to "My-Mail" but it obligates me to enter the Sent folder to comply. It is no good! Hints? Regards Ethy From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Aug 5 12:50:12 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 10:50:12 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3241] New: Some dialogs/windows position outside screen on multi screen desktop Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3241 Bug ID: 3241 Summary: Some dialogs/windows position outside screen on multi screen desktop Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail (Windows) Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: PC OS: Windows 7 Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: default Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: thewildbeast-co-uk at resident-uhlig.de Created attachment 1422 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1422&action=edit Screenshots (w/o subdirectory) Hello, some dialogs/windows are positioned outside the visible screen area. In order to see them I have to use windows' keyboard shortcuts or resize it to see the title bar and then move it. I guess this problem occurs because of my uncommon screen and monitor setup. I have two monitors. The desktop is extended to both of them. The unique part is that the monitors have different resolutions and that the desktop has a shift/step in it. (see attached file settings.png) Some windows (e.g. Configuration > Plugins) are positioned outside of monitor 1. (see attached file actual.png) However I expect the window to be inside (see atched file expected.png) Best regards Sven. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Aug 5 12:51:18 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 10:51:18 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3241] Some dialogs/windows position outside screen on multi screen desktop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3241 --- Comment #1 from Sven Uhlig --- Might be related to Bug #3194 http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3194 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Aug 5 13:10:04 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 11:10:04 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3242] New: Some sub dialogs invisible/behind original dialog/wrong z-index Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3242 Bug ID: 3242 Summary: Some sub dialogs invisible/behind original dialog/wrong z-index Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail (Windows) Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: PC OS: Windows 7 Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: default Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: thewildbeast-co-uk at resident-uhlig.de Created attachment 1423 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1423&action=edit Screenshot Hello, some sub dialogs appear behind the original dialog. They are not accessible until you activate the main window or if you move the original dialog. Furthermore the original dialogs keeps to overlay the sub dialog. Example: Preferences -> Message View > Text Options > Display headers in message view > Edit (see attached screenshot) I guess it is because of wrong parent HWND (speaking in WinAPI terms) or wrong z-index. Best regards Sven. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From slitt at troubleshooters.com Wed Aug 6 16:06:57 2014 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 10:06:57 -0400 Subject: [Users] Claws-Mail breaks my X Message-ID: <20140806100657.6c14efd0@mydesq2.domain.cxm> Hi all, I'm hoping one of you has seen this problem before and can shed some light on it, and perhaps suggest a solution or a workaround (maybe shutting off popup help). I'll give hardware and software specifics later in this email. The symptom is this: I can run X all day and all night and it runs fine, but the second I hover the mouse pointer over a message in Claws' message list, from then until I leave and restart X, every time I hover over anything with a popup message, my mouse cursor disappears. Not only that, if I use the scroll wheel to move down a web page in Iceweasel or xxxterm (or probably any other GUI browser), the mouse cursor disappears and doesn't come back until I move the mouse instead of the mouse wheel. Interestingly, merely hovering over a Claws-Mail menu icon with popup help does not trigger this: It isn't triggered until I hover over a message in the message list. In summary, hovering over a message in the message list causes my mouse pointer to disappear when hovered over elements with popups, or when scrolled with the mouse wheel, for the rest of that X session. I know that my 3.8.1 is old, and if this is a known problem with 3.8.1 I'll be glad to do whatever's needed to upgrade, even if I have to ./configure;make;make install. But I'm not going to upgrade it on principle or speculation, because fighting your package manager is difficult, and I'd like to try everything else before strongarming a later version than what Debian Wheezy's package manager bestows. My hardware and software information follows. I forgot to say it, but I have 16GB of RAM... ================================ slitt at mydesq2:~$ claws-mail -v Claws Mail version 3.8.1 slitt at mydesq2:~$ cat /etc/issue Debian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l slitt at mydesq2:~$ sudo lshw | grep -A10 'CPU' description: CPU product: AMD A6-6400K APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] physical id: 34 bus info: cpu at 0 version: AMD A6-6400K APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics slot: FM2+ size: 1800MHz capacity: 3900MHz width: 64 bits clock: 100MHz slitt at mydesq2:~$ sudo lshw | grep -A12 'display' *-display UNCLAIMED description: VGA compatible controller product: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI physical id: 1 bus info: pci at 0000:00:01.0 version: 00 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller bus_master cap_list configuration: latency=0 resources: memory:e0000000-efffffff ioport:f000(size=256) memory:feb00000-feb3ffff *-storage slitt at mydesq2:~$ ================================ Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance From linxt at comcast.net Wed Aug 6 18:39:08 2014 From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 09:39:08 -0700 Subject: [Users] Mark ALL as read? In-Reply-To: <20140722164141.514c9d40@desktop-2.home> References: <20140722164141.514c9d40@desktop-2.home> Message-ID: <20140806093908.63888034@desktop-1.home> On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:41:41 -0700 Thomas Taylor wrote: > Is there a keyboard shortcut that would mark ALL messages in the ~/Mail folder > as read, not just by individual folders? Or would that be better done with a > pre-processing rule? > > This would be useful on a secondary computer as I do ALL reading and replies > on my upstairs system and have not yet migrated the ~/Mail folder to the NAS > box (future project). For now the secondary computer (in basement ham shack) > serves as a backup of the mail-folders or for reference only but I import > mail daily to keep it current. > > Thanks, Tom > Thanks to all for the responses. Will look into them as soon as I am able. Tom -- Life takes on meaning when you become motivated, set goals and charge after them in an unstoppable manner. -Les Brown ^^ --... ...-- / -.- --. --... -.-. ..-. -.-. ^^^^ Tom Taylor KG7CFC openSUSE 13.1 (64-bit), Kernel 3.11.6-4-default, KDE 4.11.2, AMD Phenom X4 955, GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Nvidia 337.19) 16GB RAM -- 3x1.5TB sata2 -- 128GB-SSD FF 27.0, claws-mail 3.10.0 registered linux user 263467 From linxt at comcast.net Wed Aug 6 19:46:04 2014 From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 10:46:04 -0700 Subject: [Users] Mark ALL as read? In-Reply-To: <20140724081136.GQ12775@trasgu> References: <20140722164141.514c9d40@desktop-2.home> <20140723081733.1e35f223@penny> <20140723084748.633f7543@desktop-1.home> <20140723181717.602582e3@penny> <20140723221642.7a3d96e3@wodan> <20140724081136.GQ12775@trasgu> Message-ID: <20140806104604.75fbf5ea@desktop-1.home> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:11:36 +0200 Ricardo Mones wrote: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 10:16:42PM +0200, Holger Berndt wrote: > > On Mi, 23.07.2014 18:17, Andrej Kacian wrote: > > > > >> Thanks for your response, Andrej. I already use that shortcut (shift-c) > > >> BUT it only works on the folder you are in, not the entire mailbox. I'm > > >> looking for a way to mark the entire Mailbox (MH) AND ALL sub-folders at > > >> once. > > > > > >I do not think Claws Mail allows you to do that. On the other hand, I > > >continue to be amazed what miracles Python plugin can do, perhaps it can > > >be scripted. > > > > Yes, it can be done with the Python plugin. In fact, a little extension > > of this functionality is even shipped as an example script: > > http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=blob_plain;f=src/plugins/python/examples/main/Recusively-mark-messages-as-read;hb=HEAD > > > > This script puts a further constraint on the messages to be marked as > > read: They must be older than 28 days. If that is not wanted, just > > remove all the lines mentioning "quicksearch". > > > > This version of the script considers everything below the currently > > selected folder or mailbox. Letting it behave differently (i.e. always > > consider the whole mailbox of the selected folder, or consider all > > mailboxes irrespective of the selected folder/mailbox) would require > > minor adjustments. > > Since this is not the first time this appears I've turned it into a FAQ: > > http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Interface#How_do_I_mark_all_messages_as_read_in_all_folders_of_a_mailbox.3F > > Please proofread and fix any error I may have introduced. > > best regards, Hi Ricardo, The "Tools" in my CM (3.10.0) doesn't display a Python Scripts" sub-menu. Does that have to be compiled in during install/upgrade? Thanks, Tom -- Life takes on meaning when you become motivated, set goals and charge after them in an unstoppable manner. -Les Brown ^^ --... ...-- / -.- --. --... -.-. ..-. -.-. ^^^^ Tom Taylor KG7CFC openSUSE 13.1 (64-bit), Kernel 3.11.6-4-default, KDE 4.11.2, AMD Phenom X4 955, GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Nvidia 337.19) 16GB RAM -- 3x1.5TB sata2 -- 128GB-SSD FF 27.0, claws-mail 3.10.0 registered linux user 263467 From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Aug 6 19:55:41 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 17:55:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3243] New: Deleting address book entries while in group view removes mail address from entry Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3243 Bug ID: 3243 Summary: Deleting address book entries while in group view removes mail address from entry Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Other Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: spamcatcher at posteo.org In the address book, click on a user defined group, then right click on of the entries in that group. One of the menu item is labeled "Delete". Selecting that entry has the following effects: 1. the entry is removed from the group. It is *not* deleted from the address book. 2. the email address defined inside the entry is deleted (other fields, like name(s) and "other attributes" don't seem to be affected). Which is obviously not what this menu item is supposed to do. This menu item should either completely delete the entry - that's what the name suggests, after all. But in that case there should be a requester asking for confirmation, like when selecting "delete" on an entry in normal view. Or this menu item is supposed to remove this entry from the current group. In that case, the menu entry should be renamed to reflect this, and the process shouldn't remove the mail address from the entry. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From ricardo at mones.org Thu Aug 7 08:42:42 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:42:42 +0200 Subject: [Users] Mark ALL as read? In-Reply-To: <20140806104604.75fbf5ea@desktop-1.home> References: <20140722164141.514c9d40@desktop-2.home> <20140723081733.1e35f223@penny> <20140723084748.633f7543@desktop-1.home> <20140723181717.602582e3@penny> <20140723221642.7a3d96e3@wodan> <20140724081136.GQ12775@trasgu> <20140806104604.75fbf5ea@desktop-1.home> Message-ID: <20140807064242.GG27138@trasgu> On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 10:46:04AM -0700, Thomas Taylor wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:11:36 +0200 > Ricardo Mones wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 10:16:42PM +0200, Holger Berndt wrote: […] > > > > > > Yes, it can be done with the Python plugin. In fact, a little extension > > > of this functionality is even shipped as an example script: > > > http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=blob_plain;f=src/plugins/python/examples/main/Recusively-mark-messages-as-read;hb=HEAD […] > > Since this is not the first time this appears I've turned it into a FAQ: > > > > http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Interface#How_do_I_mark_all_messages_as_read_in_all_folders_of_a_mailbox.3F […] > > Hi Ricardo, > The "Tools" in my CM (3.10.0) doesn't display a Python Scripts" sub-menu. Does > that have to be compiled in during install/upgrade? If you have it build/installed you probably need to load the plugin first. Check if it's loaded in the list shown at Configuration → Plugins, and use the “Load...” button to select python.so to be added to the list. regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ Datei nicht gefunden Fehler 404 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From linxt at comcast.net Thu Aug 7 14:52:59 2014 From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 05:52:59 -0700 Subject: [Users] Mark ALL as read? In-Reply-To: <20140807064242.GG27138@trasgu> References: <20140722164141.514c9d40@desktop-2.home> <20140723081733.1e35f223@penny> <20140723084748.633f7543@desktop-1.home> <20140723181717.602582e3@penny> <20140723221642.7a3d96e3@wodan> <20140724081136.GQ12775@trasgu> <20140806104604.75fbf5ea@desktop-1.home> <20140807064242.GG27138@trasgu> Message-ID: <20140807055259.5c6d8e12@desktop-1.home> On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:42:42 +0200 Ricardo Mones wrote: > On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 10:46:04AM -0700, Thomas Taylor wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:11:36 +0200 > > Ricardo Mones wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 10:16:42PM +0200, Holger Berndt wrote: > […] > > > > > > > > Yes, it can be done with the Python plugin. In fact, a little extension > > > > of this functionality is even shipped as an example script: > > > > http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=blob_plain;f=src/plugins/python/examples/main/Recusively-mark-messages-as-read;hb=HEAD > […] > > > Since this is not the first time this appears I've turned it into a FAQ: > > > > > > http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Interface#How_do_I_mark_all_messages_as_read_in_all_folders_of_a_mailbox.3F > […] > > > > Hi Ricardo, > > The "Tools" in my CM (3.10.0) doesn't display a Python Scripts" sub-menu. > > Does that have to be compiled in during install/upgrade? > > If you have it build/installed you probably need to load the plugin first. > Check if it's loaded in the list shown at Configuration → Plugins, and > use the “Load...” button to select python.so to be added to the list. > > regards, Thanks Ricardo, that was the problem. Tom -- Life takes on meaning when you become motivated, set goals and charge after them in an unstoppable manner. -Les Brown ^^ --... ...-- / -.- --. --... -.-. ..-. -.-. ^^^^ Tom Taylor KG7CFC openSUSE 13.1 (64-bit), Kernel 3.11.6-4-default, KDE 4.11.2, AMD Phenom X4 955, GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Nvidia 337.19) 16GB RAM -- 3x1.5TB sata2 -- 128GB-SSD FF 27.0, claws-mail 3.10.0 registered linux user 263467 From harro at altern.org Thu Aug 7 17:12:55 2014 From: harro at altern.org (harro at altern.org) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 17:12:55 +0200 Subject: [Users] highlighting marked messages and searching the list archive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0fa4677ec1fcf1527dd4e87fb4ccbaae.squirrel@www.altern.org> Good day all, Can anyone explain how I can highlight (as in formatting) marked messages in the mail list view? Currently, I only see quite inconspicuous check-marks before the emails that I mark, but I would prefer to see these emails in a different colour so that they are easier to spot. Second question is whether there is a way to search the mailing list, to avoid asking questions that have already been answered? On the website I appear to only have the option to open each monthly digest and look through all the topics manually... Thank you for your thoughts! Harro From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Aug 7 22:53:16 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 20:53:16 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3244] New: Claws-mail fails connection to imap server as "connection refused" (ipv6=unreachable, ipv4=reachable) Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3244 Bug ID: 3244 Summary: Claws-mail fails connection to imap server as "connection refused" (ipv6=unreachable, ipv4=reachable) Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.9.0 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Folders/IMAP Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: bonbons67 at internet.lu When attempting to connect to imap server claws-mail show error message stating that connection was refused. stracing claws-mail during such an operation shows: socket() connect( ipv6-addr ): NETWORK UNREACHABLE write(stderr, ... IMAP error on hostname.tld: connection refused ...) I would expect claws-mail to retry connection to ipv4 address and only if that one fails too, report either failure cause of connection to ipv6 address or ipv4 address, but not an invented "connection refused" when it effectively is "network unreachable". "connection refused" means that either server or a firewall in between has actively rejected the connection. If there is no granularity regarding the cause available the error message should rather be "connection failed" instead of "connection refused". Should apply to more recent releases as well unless news omitted to report a fix. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From james at jwm-art.net Fri Aug 8 19:12:30 2014 From: james at jwm-art.net (James Morris) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 18:12:30 +0100 Subject: [Users] Storage of emails and transfer from an old config directory to new Message-ID: <20140808181230.3f467605@Scrapyard.lan> Hi, Warning: horrible tangled mess here. I access my email a/c using IMAP, but in a somewhat dim-witted fashion, have configured Claws with filters to remove all the emails from the server into an MH account. Been doing this for quite some time w/o realising I could have just used POP3 instead. At some point in the past I accidentally delete my home directory and then recovered (the bulk of) it using ext3delete (which I'll refer to as $OLD_HOME). I made a new $HOME for my user and plopped the recovered $OLD_HOME into it within a subfolder. So the problem is I have an old config directory $OLD_HOME/.claws-mail/ in which I presume are stored all my old emails, which I cannot access. I also have $HOME/.claws-mail in which presumably are stored all my new emails. I have tried using the --alternate-config option to view the old emails but Claws complains $OLD_HOME/.claws-mail/clawsrc is missing. But then I also found $SOME_OTHER_HOME/.claws-mail which did have a clawsrc file, so with Claws fired up there could be seen all the old folders I moved my emails into, along with counts of the emails believed to be there within. However warnings were issued about a missing files named $HOME/Mail/$FOLDER/stat. I don't think this $HOME/Mail folder existed previously - but $SOME_OTHER_HOME/Mail does exist but no files name stat within it. It also requested the a/c password but I declined to give it because I didn't want any of the processing rules in the old config to remove any new emails from the server. I want to copy the emails but don't understand the conventions used when storing them, if I could copy them from the old config to the new, or even if what I'm looking at (the files with numeric names) are even the emails themselves. Any helpful pointers appreciated. regards James. From sylpheed at 911networks.com Fri Aug 8 19:16:05 2014 From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 10:16:05 -0700 Subject: [Users] Mark as read/unread Message-ID: <20140808101605.5d57290f@frogguski.911networks.com> Hi, I have CM 3.10.1. I use ! to mark a message as unread. I'd like to convert the mark as unread ! to a toggle. ! mark as unread, ! again and marks it as read. Is it possible? -- sknahT vyS From pf at pfortin.com Sat Aug 9 01:24:19 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 19:24:19 -0400 Subject: [Users] Mark as read/unread In-Reply-To: <20140808101605.5d57290f@frogguski.911networks.com> References: <20140808101605.5d57290f@frogguski.911networks.com> Message-ID: <20140808192419.02f46baf@pfortin.com> On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 10:16:05 -0700 sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote: >Hi, > >I have CM 3.10.1. I use ! to mark a message as unread. > >I'd like to convert the mark as unread ! to a toggle. ! mark as >unread, ! again and marks it as read. > >Is it possible? Not currently; but should be doable since it works exactly that way with mouse clicks. Open a RFE -- I would even suggest that all the Mark->* choices can be turned into toggles. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Aug 10 21:34:18 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 19:34:18 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3099] when used in URI, (https://USERNAME:MYPASSWORD@mailserver/home/USERNAME/Calendar), password stored in plain text In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3099 Klaus Kusche changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |klaus.kusche at computerix.inf | |o --- Comment #29 from Klaus Kusche --- Another vote for this one. This is my central LDAP password at our university. It allows to modify all my student's grades, it allows to register students as present or absent, it allows to read and send my mail, it allows to change my web presence, it allows to hook up to our WLAN in my name etc. And it allows to change my password! Claws is the only program storing it in clear text, there is no other clear text copy of that password on any of my disks. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Aug 10 21:44:46 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 19:44:46 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3245] New: Where can I set the webcal calendar refresh interval or turn refresh off? Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3245 Bug ID: 3245 Summary: Where can I set the webcal calendar refresh interval or turn refresh off? Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/vCalendar Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: klaus.kusche at computerix.info I did not find any preferences to set the refresh interval for the webcal download of calendar folders or to turn automatic refresh on or off. Are they not automatically refreshed at all? Are they refreshed at the mail check interval? Are they refreshed whenever the folder is opened? I'd like to trigger the refresh manually only: Refreshing them at the mail check interval is by far too frequently, since the downloaded file is huge and noticeably blocks both claws and slow network connections (and the calendar changes very rarely). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Aug 11 05:58:09 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 03:58:09 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3245] Where can I set the webcal calendar refresh interval or turn refresh off? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3245 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Paul --- This is not a forum. If you have questions, please use other routes: http://www.claws-mail.org/MLs.php -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From klaus.kusche at computerix.info Mon Aug 11 10:18:43 2014 From: klaus.kusche at computerix.info (Prof. Dr. Klaus Kusche) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:18:43 +0200 Subject: [Users] See prev. mail / Bug 3245: Where can I set the webcal calendar refresh interval or turn refresh off? Message-ID: <20140811101843.31ae59c5@lap.mynet> Hello, bug closed, but question or request for enhancement remains (or at least for documentation clarification): I did not find any preferences to set the refresh interval for the webcal download of calendar folders or to turn automatic refresh on or off. Are they not automatically refreshed at all? Are they refreshed at the mail check interval? Are they refreshed whenever the folder is opened? I'd like to trigger the refresh manually only: Refreshing them at the mail check interval is by far too frequently, since the downloaded file is huge and noticeably blocks both claws and slow network connections (and the calendar changes very rarely). Greetings -- Prof. Dr. Klaus Kusche Private address: Rainstraße 9/1, 88316 Isny, Germany +49 7562 6211377 Klaus.Kusche at computerix.info http://www.computerix.info Office address: NTA Isny gGmbH, Seidenstraße 12-35, 88316 Isny, Germany +49 7562 9707 36 kusche at nta-isny.de http://www.nta-isny.de From ricardo at mones.org Mon Aug 11 10:51:32 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:51:32 +0200 Subject: [Users] highlighting marked messages and searching the list archive In-Reply-To: <0fa4677ec1fcf1527dd4e87fb4ccbaae.squirrel@www.altern.org> References: <0fa4677ec1fcf1527dd4e87fb4ccbaae.squirrel@www.altern.org> Message-ID: <20140811085132.GH27138@trasgu> On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 05:12:55PM +0200, harro at altern.org wrote: > Good day all, > > Can anyone explain how I can highlight (as in formatting) marked messages > in the mail list view? Currently, I only see quite inconspicuous > check-marks before the emails that I mark, but I would prefer to see these > emails in a different colour so that they are easier to spot. Right-click on message and select a color under “Color label”. > Second question is whether there is a way to search the mailing list, to > avoid asking questions that have already been answered? On the website I > appear to only have the option to open each monthly digest and look > through all the topics manually... http://www.google.com/advanced_search (use lists.claws-mail.org in “site or domain” textbox). I guess other search engines probably have a similar mechanism for this. regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ Don't take the name of root in vain. /usr/src/linux/README -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From ricardo at mones.org Mon Aug 11 11:45:11 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 11:45:11 +0200 Subject: [Users] Mark as read/unread In-Reply-To: <20140808192419.02f46baf@pfortin.com> References: <20140808101605.5d57290f@frogguski.911networks.com> <20140808192419.02f46baf@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20140811094511.GI27138@trasgu> On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 07:24:19PM -0400, Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 10:16:05 -0700 sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I have CM 3.10.1. I use ! to mark a message as unread. > > > >I'd like to convert the mark as unread ! to a toggle. ! mark as > >unread, ! again and marks it as read. > > > >Is it possible? > > Not currently; but should be doable since it works exactly that way with > mouse clicks. Open a RFE -- I would even suggest that all the Mark->* > choices can be turned into toggles. This can already be achieved with Python plugin. Place this into some file.py in your ~/.claws-mail/python-scripts/main directory and refresh your python scripts: ------- # get actions action_group = clawsmail.get_mainwindow_action_group() action_unmark = action_group.get_action("Message/Mark/Unmark") action_mark = action_group.get_action("Message/Mark/Mark") # process selected messages for msg in clawsmail.get_summaryview_selected_message_list(): clawsmail.summaryview_select_messages([msg]) if msg.is_marked(): action_unmark.activate() else: action_mark.activate() ------- Similarly it could be done for the other Mark choices. HTH, -- Ricardo Mones ~ RTFM - "Read The Manual" (The 'F' is silent). Usually a very good idea. Bjarne Stroustrup -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Aug 11 12:42:00 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:42:00 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3099] when used in URI, (https://USERNAME:MYPASSWORD@mailserver/home/USERNAME/Calendar), password stored in plain text In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3099 --- Comment #30 from Klaus Kusche --- May I suggest to use a master password as a fix (like thunderbird, firefox and some other programs do) to encrypt all passwords on disk, and to decrypt them when claws is started?! Clear-text passwords on disk are a major problem! (among other problems, this implies clear text passwords on backups -ugh!). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From harro at altern.org Mon Aug 11 13:05:17 2014 From: harro at altern.org (harro at altern.org) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 13:05:17 +0200 Subject: [Users] highlighting marked messages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good day Ricardo, Thank you for your response to my two questions. With regard to marking 'flagged' messages, I was not clear in my question: I meant to ask how it can be done automatically. So when I flag a message, the font of the subject / sender-line could become bold and the colour blue, for example (similar to Outlook Express functionality). Kind regards, Harro On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 12:00:02 +0200 users-request at lists.claws-mail.org wrote: > From: Ricardo Mones > To: users at lists.claws-mail.org > Subject: Re: [Users] highlighting marked messages and searching the > list archive Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:51:32 +0200 > > On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 05:12:55PM +0200, harro at altern.org wrote: > > Good day all, > > > > Can anyone explain how I can highlight (as in formatting) marked > > messages in the mail list view? Currently, I only see quite > > inconspicuous check-marks before the emails that I mark, but I > > would prefer to see these emails in a different colour so that they > > are easier to spot. > > Right-click on message and select a color under Color label. > > > Second question is whether there is a way to search the mailing > > list, to avoid asking questions that have already been answered? > > On the website I appear to only have the option to open each > > monthly digest and look through all the topics manually... > > http://www.google.com/advanced_search (use lists.claws-mail.org in > site or domain textbox). I guess other search engines probably > have a similar mechanism for this. > > regards, From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Aug 11 16:20:52 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:20:52 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3246] New: attachment open: "remember this" ignored, application choice not remembered, dialog always shown Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3246 Bug ID: 3246 Summary: attachment open: "remember this" ignored, application choice not remembered, dialog always shown Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: klaus.kusche at computerix.info When opening an attachment (no matter whether by clicking on "open" in the main view, selecting open in the attachment's context menu, or middle clicking on the attachment), the dialog for choosing the application comes up. But even when selecting "remember this", the choice is *not* remembered: When opening another attachment of the same type, or even the same attachment again, the choice dialog comes up again. Hence, it is not possible to open attachments with a single click, it always requires several steps, which is very annoying. The problem does not depend on the type of the attachment, same problem for pdf, doc, ... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From james at jwm-art.net Mon Aug 11 18:47:56 2014 From: james at jwm-art.net (James Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:47:56 +0100 Subject: [Users] Storage of emails and transfer from an old config directory to new In-Reply-To: <20140808181230.3f467605@Scrapyard.lan> References: <20140808181230.3f467605@Scrapyard.lan> Message-ID: <20140811174756.0b49bb14@Scrapyard.lan> Basically, it amounts to this me wanting some guidance as to if I can do: cp /home/olduser/.clawsmail/imapcache/server/ac/* \ /home/newuser/.clawsmail/imapcache/server/ac/ \ -Rv Is this likely to work? I don't want to just give it a go in case I end up loosing emails by rendering them unreadable. Do you know of foreseeable gotchas, or is there a recommended way of doing this? I don't imagine this is a peculiar edge case. Cheers, James. On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 18:12:30 +0100 James Morris wrote: > Hi, > > Warning: horrible tangled mess here. > > > I access my email a/c using IMAP, but in a somewhat dim-witted > fashion, have configured Claws with filters to remove all the emails > from the server into an MH account. Been doing this for quite some > time w/o realising I could have just used POP3 instead. > > At some point in the past I accidentally delete my home directory and > then recovered (the bulk of) it using ext3delete (which I'll refer to > as $OLD_HOME). I made a new $HOME for my user and plopped the > recovered $OLD_HOME into it within a subfolder. > > So the problem is I have an old config directory > $OLD_HOME/.claws-mail/ in which I presume are stored all my old > emails, which I cannot access. > > I also have $HOME/.claws-mail in which presumably are stored all my > new emails. > > I have tried using the --alternate-config option to view the old > emails but Claws complains $OLD_HOME/.claws-mail/clawsrc is missing. > > But then I also found $SOME_OTHER_HOME/.claws-mail which did have a > clawsrc file, so with Claws fired up there could be seen all the old > folders I moved my emails into, along with counts of the emails > believed to be there within. > > However warnings were issued about a missing files named > $HOME/Mail/$FOLDER/stat. I don't think this $HOME/Mail folder existed > previously - but $SOME_OTHER_HOME/Mail does exist but no files name > stat within it. > > It also requested the a/c password but I declined to give it because > I didn't want any of the processing rules in the old config to remove > any new emails from the server. > > I want to copy the emails but don't understand the conventions used > when storing them, if I could copy them from the old config to the > new, or even if what I'm looking at (the files with numeric names) > are even the emails themselves. > > Any helpful pointers appreciated. > > regards > James. > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users From ciamarie at centurylink.net Mon Aug 11 18:57:00 2014 From: ciamarie at centurylink.net (Cia Watson) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:57:00 -0700 Subject: [Users] Storage of emails and transfer from an old config directory to new In-Reply-To: <20140808181230.3f467605@Scrapyard.lan> References: <20140808181230.3f467605@Scrapyard.lan> Message-ID: <20140811095700.1bfedc24@centurylink.net> On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 18:12:30 +0100 James Morris wrote: > Hi, > > Warning: horrible tangled mess here. > But then I also found $SOME_OTHER_HOME/.claws-mail which did have a > clawsrc file, so with Claws fired up there could be seen all the old > folders I moved my emails into, along with counts of the emails > believed to be there within. > > However warnings were issued about a missing files named > $HOME/Mail/$FOLDER/stat. I don't think this $HOME/Mail folder existed > previously - but $SOME_OTHER_HOME/Mail does exist but no files name > stat within it. I'm sending a quick reply, because I have to get to work. However, your old email messages should be in the ~/Mail folder. Check the location of the #MH folder, which is probably Mail, in the folderlistrc (I think). Cia W. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Aug 11 18:59:42 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 16:59:42 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3247] New: Improve template %X (cursor location) handling Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3247 Bug ID: 3247 Summary: Improve template %X (cursor location) handling Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Compose Window Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: pf at pfortin.com Started to treat this as a bug (while setting up a new machine w/CM for a novice user); but feel it could be better improved via an RFE. When setting up folder Properties Compose/Reply/Forward templates, %X allows specifying where the cursor appears... However, this only works if %X is within the body; it's ignored in Subject. Without a template, the cursor goes to the next destination (To:) Proposal: - allow %X in both Subject and Body (already is :) - if only one %X, use it - if %X in both Subject and Body, go to Subject location first; then, on Tab, jump to %X location in body. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From berndth at gmx.de Tue Aug 12 23:23:42 2014 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 23:23:42 +0200 Subject: [Users] Mark as read/unread In-Reply-To: <20140811094511.GI27138@trasgu> References: <20140808101605.5d57290f@frogguski.911networks.com> <20140808192419.02f46baf@pfortin.com> <20140811094511.GI27138@trasgu> Message-ID: <20140812232342.1571e5c4@wodan> On Mo, 11.08.2014 11:45, Ricardo Mones wrote: > This can already be achieved with Python plugin. Place this into some >file.py in your ~/.claws-mail/python-scripts/main directory and refresh >your python scripts: > >------- ># get actions >action_group = clawsmail.get_mainwindow_action_group() >action_unmark = action_group.get_action("Message/Mark/Unmark") >action_mark = action_group.get_action("Message/Mark/Mark") ># process selected messages >for msg in clawsmail.get_summaryview_selected_message_list(): > clawsmail.summaryview_select_messages([msg]) > if msg.is_marked(): > action_unmark.activate() > else: > action_mark.activate() > >------- That works, however, it's a bit clunky due to missing API. I just pushed a commit that adds read/write attributes for the "unread", "locked" and "marked" flags, and read-only attributes for the "new", "replied" and "forwarded" flags (deprecating the respective is_FLAG() methods). So with git master, you can now do #------------------------------ for msg in clawsmail.get_summaryview_selected_message_list(): msg.unread = not msg.unread #------------------------------ to toggle the "unread" attribute. Holger -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From ricardo at mones.org Wed Aug 13 09:25:55 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 09:25:55 +0200 Subject: [Users] Mark as read/unread In-Reply-To: <20140812232342.1571e5c4@wodan> References: <20140808101605.5d57290f@frogguski.911networks.com> <20140808192419.02f46baf@pfortin.com> <20140811094511.GI27138@trasgu> <20140812232342.1571e5c4@wodan> Message-ID: <20140813072555.GM27138@trasgu> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 11:23:42PM +0200, Holger Berndt wrote: > On Mo, 11.08.2014 11:45, Ricardo Mones wrote: > > > This can already be achieved with Python plugin. Place this into some > >file.py in your ~/.claws-mail/python-scripts/main directory and refresh > >your python scripts: […] > That works, however, it's a bit clunky due to missing API. I just > pushed a commit that adds read/write attributes for the "unread", > "locked" and "marked" flags, and read-only attributes for the "new", > "replied" and "forwarded" flags (deprecating the respective is_FLAG() > methods). So with git master, you can now do > > #------------------------------ > for msg in clawsmail.get_summaryview_selected_message_list(): > msg.unread = not msg.unread > #------------------------------ > > to toggle the "unread" attribute. Great! Thanks Holger! In my naivety I tried something similar at first, but since it didn't work I went the summaryview selection + activating menu options route to replicate what would be done by hand :) -- Ricardo Mones ~ Quantity derives from measurement, figures from quantities, comparisons from figures, and victories from comparisons. Sun Tzu -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Aug 13 10:09:38 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 08:09:38 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3245] Where can I set the webcal calendar refresh interval or turn refresh off? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3245 Klaus Kusche changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID |--- --- Comment #2 from Klaus Kusche --- No response on the mailing list. Hence, such a settings option seems to be missing. So please keep this open as a request for enhancement: Add a configuration option to configure the refresh of webcal downloads: * No automatic refresh, just explicit refresh. * Automatic refresh at a configurable interval (separate from the mail check interval!) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Aug 13 10:38:30 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 08:38:30 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3245] Where can I set the webcal calendar refresh interval or turn refresh off? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3245 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|normal |enhancement --- Comment #3 from Paul --- have some patience. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Aug 13 11:00:36 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 09:00:36 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3246] attachment open: "remember this" ignored, application choice not remembered, dialog always shown In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3246 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Paul --- This is remembered based on the MIME type. In your case the MIME type is "application/octet-stream" which is generic and undefined, therefore the choice is not remembered. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Aug 13 11:01:57 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 09:01:57 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3228] Unresponsive when selecting an "Other" key to encrypt to In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3228 --- Comment #5 from Paul --- Barry, any news on this? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Aug 13 11:20:51 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 09:20:51 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3246] attachment open: "remember this" ignored, application choice not remembered, dialog always shown In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3246 Klaus Kusche changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID |--- --- Comment #2 from Klaus Kusche --- Wrong. The type is shown as "application/pdf", "application/msword", "application/vnd.ms-excel" and so on, but the choice is still not remembered for those types. And even if the type were "application/octet-stream", claws should remember "xdg-open %s" (or whatever I enter) when I select "Remember this". This is a good generic choice, and if I don't like it for a specific attachment, I can always override it by selecting "Open with" instead of "Open". -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Aug 13 11:33:35 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 09:33:35 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3246] attachment open: "remember this" ignored, application choice not remembered, dialog always shown In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3246 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #3 from Paul --- OK, but I had to make an assumption as the information provided was sparse. See http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Installation_and_Configuration#How_can_I_select_different_applications_to_open_with_specific_MIME_types.3F When you use 'remember this' Claws writes to ~/.mailcap. How this file is used depends on your distro. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Aug 13 13:54:13 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 11:54:13 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3246] attachment open: "remember this" ignored, application choice not remembered, dialog always shown In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3246 Klaus Kusche changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID |--- --- Comment #4 from Klaus Kusche --- Well, the bug is that claws did *not* write to ~/.mailcap, because that file did not exist, and claws did not create it. Please make sure that claws *creates* the file if "remember this" is selected and the file does not yet exist! After a "touch ~/.mailcap", everything works as expected, but it should not be necessary to do that by hand. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Aug 13 14:56:59 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 12:56:59 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3248] New: Account selection for compose, reply and forward wrong in some folders Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3248 Bug ID: 3248 Summary: Account selection for compose, reply and forward wrong in some folders Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: other Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Folders Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: klaus.kusche at computerix.info I've two accounts, let's call them A (internally 1) and B (internally 2). A is default, A is current account, I'm in the "Inbox" folder belonging to A, I've selected a message addressed to A. However, when I hit "Reply", "Forward" or "Compose", account B is selected as "From" in the new message, and B's signature is appended. Same happens if I'm in "Sent" or "Trash" of A: "From" of any new, reply or forward message is B. If I'm in some other folder of A, and reply, forward or compose, "From" is correctly set to A. "Automatic account selection" is all on. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Aug 13 14:57:43 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 12:57:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3246] attachment open: "remember this" ignored if ~/.mailcap does not exist In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3246 Ricardo Mones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|attachment open: "remember |attachment open: "remember |this" ignored, application |this" ignored if ~/.mailcap |choice not remembered, |does not exist |dialog always shown | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Aug 13 15:01:45 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 13:01:45 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3246] attachment open: "remember this" ignored if ~/.mailcap does not exist In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3246 --- Comment #5 from Ricardo Mones --- Created attachment 1424 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1424&action=edit Fix proposal. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Aug 13 21:03:51 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 19:03:51 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3248] Account selection for compose, reply and forward wrong in some folders In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3248 --- Comment #1 from Paul --- Are your 2 accounts both IMAP accounts? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Aug 13 21:07:43 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 19:07:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3248] Account selection for compose, reply and forward wrong in some folders In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3248 --- Comment #2 from Klaus Kusche --- A is POP3, B is IMAP. Both have their own, separate SMTP for outgoing mails. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Aug 14 08:08:58 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 06:08:58 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3248] Account selection for compose, reply and forward wrong in some folders In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3248 --- Comment #3 from Paul --- First point is that a POP account has no direct connection to an MH mailbox, so the MH mailbox is not account A's mailbox, it just makes use of it. If you had a 2nd POP account it too could use that mailbox. Automatic account selection is based primarily on recipient headers and not mailboxes. As automatic account selection has worked fine for me for many years, I am inclined to think that it also does for you but there is an assumption that it should somehow work differently. However, with the use of 'A' and 'B' and no mention of actual values of your account email addresses or those in the headers of the messages in question it's not possible to explain further. One last point, which may be pertinent: you can set default accounts for the various actions in the folder properties. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Aug 14 08:40:23 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 06:40:23 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3248] Account selection for compose, reply and forward wrong in some folders In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3248 --- Comment #4 from Klaus Kusche --- Your remarks solved the problem. Definitely not a problem of account selection (works as defined), but perhaps a problem of initial folder or account creation: For all the "predefined" folders in the MH Mailbox (Inbox, Sent, Drafts, Trash, Queue), the default account was explicitely set to B (I don't know why, I'm quite sure I did not do this). Corrected that, problem gone... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Aug 14 08:45:29 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 06:45:29 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3248] Account selection for compose, reply and forward wrong in some folders In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3248 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From berndth at gmx.de Thu Aug 14 23:46:09 2014 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 23:46:09 +0200 Subject: [Users] Help with Python compose_any script In-Reply-To: <20140710212728.364de3d0@wodan> References: <20140710133943.76d643c6@anarchist.wooz.org> <20140710212728.364de3d0@wodan> Message-ID: <20140814234609.18c1dd37@wodan> On Do, 10.07.2014 21:27, Holger Berndt wrote: >The plugin doesn't provide account selection. It does however provide >access to the GTK+ combo box selection widget, so what you can do is >access the widget, iterate over the entries, search the one you want, >and when you found the correct entry, select it: > >#================================================================ >account_combo = clawsmail.compose_window.get_account_selection() >for row in account_combo.get_model(): > if "MyAccountName" in row[0]: > account_combo.set_active_iter(row.iter) > break >#================================================================ > >This obviously relies on Claws Mail internals (that the widget is a >GtkComboBox, that the underlying model has a string of the display in >the first column of that model, ...), and thus you are not guaranteed >that it will work forever. I just made the "account" property of a ComposeWindow read/write, so the roundtrip through GTK+ and relying on internals is no longer necessary. The alternative is not exactly shorter, but more straight-forward: #================================================================== # look for wanted account target_account = None for ac in clawsmail.get_accounts(): if "MyAccountName" in ac.account_name: target_account = ac break # select this account if target_account: clawsmail.compose_window.account = target_account #================================================================== Holger From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Aug 16 18:32:54 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:32:54 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3249] New: Subtle keyboard UI problems involving the Go To Folder dialog Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3249 Bug ID: 3249 Summary: Subtle keyboard UI problems involving the Go To Folder dialog Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Folder List Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: nobrowser at gmail.com Please read carefully, I think _all_ the ingredients I list here are needed to reproduce this bug. I start with my folder list collapsed, ie. only top level folders are shown. (In my server's IMAP implementation top level folders are siblings of INBOX, not its children.) I open one of the top level folders (INBOX should do) and interact with it, reading some messages and switching among messages with the Up and Down keys. Then I decide to open another folder, but one that is nested 1 level deep and therefore not displayed in the folder list. To that end I hit the "Go To Other Folder" key combo (Ctrl-G for me). I select and open the desired folder. Claws has helpfully expanded the folder list so that the newly opened folder is now visible and highlighted in the list. Again I interact with the folder and its messages, using Up and Down. Finally I hit the Left key, giving focus to the folder list (or so I hope - the visual focus representation in Claws is so weak that I can't say for sure, but the folder list seems to react to keystrokes in general). And I have arrived in bug land: the Up and Down keys do not work. The Up key does nothing at all, and the Down key highlights the topmost line in the list, ie. the account line. I think I know what is happening here: the folder list keeps state including the highlighted line but this state is not updated correctly when a parent folder is expanded as a side effect of selecting one of its children in the Go To dialog. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Aug 16 21:37:38 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 19:37:38 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3250] New: Option 'rename' doesn't work Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3250 Bug ID: 3250 Summary: Option 'rename' doesn't work Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: PC OS: FreeBSD Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/Archiver Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: bugzilla at spiegelt.com I tried to create a tar archive with the mail-archiver's "rename" option but it didn't work although it had been selected in the settings. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Aug 16 22:09:26 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 20:09:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3250] Option 'rename' doesn't work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3250 --- Comment #1 from Michael Rasmussen --- Hi, I just did a test here, although with head from git but nothing has changed, at here it works as expected. My computer is running Debian Sid and I have no FreeBSD available to test so this does not imply there is not some bug in the FreeBSD version. What version of FreeBSD are you using and what desktop do you run? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Aug 16 22:22:54 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 20:22:54 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3250] Option 'rename' doesn't work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3250 --- Comment #2 from bugzilla at spiegelt.com --- (In reply to comment #1) > Hi, > > I just did a test here, although with head from git but nothing has changed, > at here it works as expected. My computer is running Debian Sid and I have > no FreeBSD available to test so this does not imply there is not some bug in > the FreeBSD version. What version of FreeBSD are you using and what desktop > do you run? Sorry, I forgot... FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE-p10 desktop: xfce-4.10_6 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From mir at miras.org Sun Aug 17 20:31:35 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:31:35 +0200 Subject: [Users] binary packages for freeBSD Message-ID: <20140817203135.2f5d8b6a@sleipner.datanom.net> Hi all, Anybody here which have some prebuild packages of claws-mail 3.10 for FreeBSD 9.2p10? -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone. -- Steven Wright -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Aug 18 12:00:48 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 10:00:48 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3250] Option 'rename' doesn't work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3250 --- Comment #3 from bugzilla at spiegelt.com --- I just ran it under FreeBSD 10.0 and it worked fine! Maybe there is an issue with FreeBSD or XFCE... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From buzz at ksys.co.nz Mon Aug 18 23:12:50 2014 From: buzz at ksys.co.nz (Buzz) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:12:50 +1200 Subject: [Users] Attachments Message-ID: <20140819091250.082860ee@sagitta.notyet> Hi, I have written a Python script which creates a PDF from a Libreoffice document and then opens a compose window with the PDF attached. I would then like to open the attachment to double check that I have all the appropriate information in it. I could have the script do this for me, but I guess my OCD is showing, as I would quite like to open it from the compose window. I haven't been able to figure out how to do this. I created an action "okular %p" which I called from the compose window, after selecting the attachment, but this resulted in a message box saying "The selected action cannot be used in the compose window because it contains %f, %F, %as or %p." Am I barking up the wrong tree or have I just missed something? -- Cheers Buzz -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 3-1.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 81925 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bbowler at bigelow.org Tue Aug 19 19:33:04 2014 From: bbowler at bigelow.org (Bruce Bowler) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17:33:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Users] Where is the "forward" template? Message-ID: Windows 7, claws 3.10.1, everything worked last week. Something's happened and when I try and forward a message, I get a popup that says "The body of the 'Forward' template has an error at line 5." Poking around the file system, I find the folder called c:\blah\appdata\roaming\claws-mail\templates, but there's nothing there. Any additional clues as to what to look for to solve the problem? Thanks! Bruce From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Aug 19 19:45:17 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:45:17 +0100 Subject: [Users] Where is the "forward" template? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140819184517.753dbb6a@thewildbeast> On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17:33:04 +0000 (UTC) Bruce Bowler wrote: > Windows 7, claws 3.10.1, everything worked last week. > > Something's happened and when I try and forward a message, I get a > popup that says > > "The body of the 'Forward' template has an error at line 5." > > Poking around the file system, I find the folder called > c:\blah\appdata\roaming\claws-mail\templates, but there's nothing > there. > > Any additional clues as to what to look for to solve the problem? Hard to say what your problem is, other than a syntax error. You'll find the template by going to /Configuration/Preferences/Compose/Templates where you can select the Forward template. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Aug 19 19:46:11 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:46:11 +0100 Subject: [Users] Attachments In-Reply-To: <20140819091250.082860ee@sagitta.notyet> References: <20140819091250.082860ee@sagitta.notyet> Message-ID: <20140819184611.706c11b6@thewildbeast> On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:12:50 +1200 Buzz wrote: > Am I barking up the wrong tree or have I just missed something? You've not missed anything, it's just not possible. You can queue your message before sending and look at the attachments from there. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Aug 19 19:46:49 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17:46:49 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3250] Option 'rename' doesn't work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3250 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From brad at fineby.me.uk Tue Aug 19 19:49:25 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:49:25 +0100 Subject: [Users] Where is the "forward" template? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140819184925.25a4c301@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17:33:04 +0000 (UTC) Bruce Bowler wrote: Hello Bruce, >Something's happened and when I try and forward a message, I get a >popup that says When forwarding mail, is this from any folder. or one specific one? If it's any folder, look at: Configuration menu, Preferences.../Compose -> Templates. Forward If it's only from one folder, look at that folder's context menu; Properties... -> Templates/Forward It may then be possible to determine the problem rather than trying to find the fault by poking around on the disk. Resetting the Forward template to "Default" may help if you can't see what's wrong. But before doing that, can I suggest you post the existing template here, so others may be able to shed light on the problem. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" I'm spending all my money and it's going up my nose Teenage Depression - Eddie & The Hot Rods -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 473 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From bbowler at bigelow.org Tue Aug 19 20:08:53 2014 From: bbowler at bigelow.org (Bruce Bowler) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:08:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Users] Where is the "forward" template? References: <20140819184925.25a4c301@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:49:25 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17:33:04 +0000 (UTC) > Bruce Bowler wrote: > > Hello Bruce, > >>Something's happened and when I try and forward a message, I get a popup >>that says > > When forwarding mail, is this from any folder. or one specific one? > > If it's any folder, look at: > > Configuration menu, Preferences.../Compose -> Templates. Forward > > If it's only from one folder, look at that folder's context menu; > > Properties... -> Templates/Forward > > It may then be possible to determine the problem rather than trying to > find the fault by poking around on the disk. > > Resetting the Forward template to "Default" may help if you can't see > what's wrong. But before doing that, can I suggest you post the > existing template here, so others may be able to shed light on the > problem. Learn something new every day... Somehow most of the forward template went missing. Not sure why, but clicking default restored things to the way they should be. Thanks! Bruce From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Aug 19 20:46:40 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:46:40 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3251] New: A translated In-Reply-To header is sent translated Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3251 Bug ID: 3251 Summary: A translated In-Reply-To header is sent translated Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC URL: http://bugs.debian.org/758144 OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: SMTP Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: mones at users.sourceforge.net Original reporter describes it in detail: -------------- Configuration: * LANG=es_ES.UTF-8 * claws-mail-i18n package installed * "Translate header names" option enabled * ~/.claws-mail/extraheaderrc file not present * ~/.claws-mail/python-scripts/auto/compose_any file not present * Python module installed but not enabled Steps to trigger the bug: * Web browse to the Debian user Spanish mailing list, i.e. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2014/08/msg00000.html * Click on the link to reply to the list (mailto protocol) Claws-mail compose window appears. I've changed the recipient to my own address to no disturb the list, and the subject to "Prueba". Here are the headers of that mail. Please note the non-standard En-Respuesta-A header instead of In-Reply-To. -------------- You can see the whole headers on the URL above, just for completeness the wrong header appears as: En-Respuesta-A: <53DAF6C6.9030909 at sophie.unam.mx> There's no need to really send the message, just queuing it and showing queue source message shows the bug (and any --compose "mailto:..." with an In-Reply-To header is enough to trigger it from command line, there's no need to visit that page :) I've been investigating a bit, but I don't see an obvious solution beyond stop translating that header, of course. The In-Reply-To header is correctly parsed and translated from the mailto: link into the compose window, but later is not turned back to it's In-Reply-To value. I suspect is just being treated as a custom added header because there's some functions which do not include it as a "standard" header, like compose_parse_header or compose_get_manual_headers_info in compose.c. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Aug 19 20:56:16 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:56:16 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3249] Subtle keyboard UI problems involving the Go To Folder dialog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3249 --- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian --- Created attachment 1425 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1425&action=edit Set focus on row after it is expanded and visible Looks like it only happens when the folder we are switching to is not initially visible in folderview, and its parents have to be expanded to show it. By looking at the code, we are setting focus row before expanding the parents, which explains why the folder does not really get focus in this case. Attached simple patch fixes the issue for me. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From jssimon at ncsu.edu Tue Aug 19 21:17:58 2014 From: jssimon at ncsu.edu (Jason Simon) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 12:17:58 -0700 Subject: [Users] opening inbox to top Message-ID: hi all, i'm having a terribly difficult time figuring out how to configure claws-mail so that when i click on a folder it defaults to the top message in that folder. it currently defaults to the top FLAGGED message, which i do not want. surely this is a checkbox somewhere, but i cannot find it! cheers! jason -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: <20140819184925.25a4c301@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140819213103.1918e2cc@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:08:53 +0000 (UTC) Bruce Bowler wrote: Hello Bruce, >Learn something new every day... I hope so: Otherwise, life ain't worth living. :-) >Somehow most of the forward template went missing. Not sure why, but >clicking default restored things to the way they should be. That means we're never likely to know what went wrong. A pity. >Thanks! YW. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" He signed up for just three years, it seemed a small amount Tin Soldiers - Stiff Little Fingers -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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However, it's possible to re-edit ANY message which is not what I'm looking for... summmaryview.c:3396 snprintf(tmp2, BUFFSIZE-1, "--> %s", to_text); knows to flag messages which I sent and saved in "Save copy of outgoing messages to this folder instead of Sent" folders. I don't mind maintaining such code locally; but while commenting mainwindow.c:3013 to: if (selection == SUMMARY_SELECTED_SINGLE && item) /* (item && (folder_has_parent_of_type(item, F_DRAFT) || folder_has_parent_of_type(item, F_OUTBOX) || folder_has_parent_of_type(item, F_QUEUE)))) */ activates Message->Re-edit, there's still code in compose.c which disallows re-editing... Does anyone mind pointing me to the flag I would need to test to determine that a message is one *I* sent and saved in a non-F_OUTBOX folder? Thanks, Pierre PS: Oh yeah... that weird subtlety I mentioned above -- anyone have a clue how to easily get the folder tree I moved as a test back out from under Sent? They got flagged as Outbox folder type and won't move back out... From codejodler at gmx.ch Wed Aug 20 03:37:41 2014 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 03:37:41 +0200 Subject: [Users] icon theme configurator not working with dconf-gsettings-backend ? Message-ID: <20140820033741.3172c525@mirrors.kernel.org> In my Debian testing, did some updates, which fiddled with some gnome libraries too, and then the CM icon theme configurator stopped working, icons reverted to defaults. After checking around rather casually, i stumbled over 'gconf-gsettings-backend' (then not installed) which i then installed, and voila´ anything works fine again. At that time, i've missed to set up the recommended environment export GGSETTINGS_BACKEND=gconf for my X desktop shell though ;) it still worked. Then i discovered there was a package 'dconf-gsettings-backend' installed (automaticly, to satisfy dependencies). I could deinstall it w/o problems. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Aug 20 08:03:25 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 06:03:25 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3249] Subtle keyboard UI problems involving the Go To Folder dialog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3249 --- Comment #2 from nobrowser at gmail.com --- Confirmed that the patch fixes the problem for me. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Aug 20 09:48:14 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 08:48:14 +0100 Subject: [Users] icon theme configurator not working with dconf-gsettings-backend ? In-Reply-To: <20140820033741.3172c525@mirrors.kernel.org> References: <20140820033741.3172c525@mirrors.kernel.org> Message-ID: <20140820084814.360b3e8e@thewildbeast> On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 03:37:41 +0200 Michael wrote: > In my Debian testing, did some updates, which fiddled with some > gnome libraries too, and then the CM icon theme configurator > stopped working, icons reverted to defaults. > > After checking around rather casually, i stumbled over > 'gconf-gsettings-backend' (then not installed) which i then > installed, and voila´ anything works fine again. > > At that time, i've missed to set up the recommended environment > export GGSETTINGS_BACKEND=gconf for my X desktop shell though ;) > it still worked. > > Then i discovered there was a package 'dconf-gsettings-backend' > installed (automaticly, to satisfy dependencies). I could deinstall > it w/o problems. This is all very strange - Claws Mail has no dependence on anything Gnome. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Aug 20 13:04:30 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:04:30 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3249] Subtle keyboard UI problems involving the Go To Folder dialog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3249 Andrej Kacian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian --- Patch has now been committed and the fix will appear in next release. Thanks for the report! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Wed Aug 20 15:03:30 2014 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:03:30 +0100 Subject: [Users] Composing with partial quotation in Win32 version - slight bug Message-ID: <20140820140330.000019d6@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> I see a small but slightly annoying effect when using mouse or keyboard selection of text to quote and then hitting Ctrl-R to reply. The first Ctrl-R is swallowed without effect, it takes a second to bring up a compose window with the quoted text. I don't recall seeing this on Linux. -- Brian Morrison From pf at pfortin.com Wed Aug 20 15:34:05 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 09:34:05 -0400 Subject: [Users] Trying to allow re-edit on messages I sent and saved in non-F_OUTBOX folders In-Reply-To: <20140819185014.568310fa@pfortin.com> References: <20140819185014.568310fa@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20140820093405.20d034fa@pfortin.com> On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:50:14 -0400 I wrote: >clue how to easily get the folder tree I moved as a test back out from >under Sent? They got flagged as Outbox folder type and won't move back >out... A minor edit to folderlist.xml (added a new Sent entry and changed container to Sent.old & type=normal) allowed me to move the tree back and the filters were auto-corrected. Back to original issue: Any clue how I can allow re-editing messages _I_ sent/saved in normal folders? ...without the current convoluted manual workarounds: - move/copy message to Sent re-edit & send move back to where I want to save it or: - forward (which saves new msg in Sent) [1] move sent msg back to where I want to save it [1] maybe the solution to all this would be for forwarded message to honor " Save copy of outgoing messages to this folder instead of Sent" Thoughts? Cheers, Pierre From codejodler at gmx.ch Wed Aug 20 16:05:13 2014 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:05:13 +0200 Subject: [Users] icon theme configurator not working with dconf-gsettings-backend ? In-Reply-To: <20140820084814.360b3e8e@thewildbeast> References: <20140820033741.3172c525@mirrors.kernel.org> <20140820084814.360b3e8e@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140820160513.2625da46@mirrors.kernel.org> Paul, I didn't make myself clear. The updates were regarding tons of other packages, not claws. > This is all very strange - Claws Mail has no dependence on anything Gnome. That's good to hear since i can't use Gnome anymore, because they introduced a dependency to systemd :) When Debian made systemd the new default (by 2:3 vote...!) it went in without knocking, and i had the delightful opportunity to study it a little bit, while repairing the mess it left. With the result that i refuse it by heart, in amazing emotional way. The main problem is that to me it's aggressive subjugation (they call it streamlining) of other packages removes any choice and is against the principles of free software. It grab so much of the essential base system (including udev and acpid) into their own project. And only 2 developers, conducting ? It also was hard to find out how to configure it as freely as i am used to. If this is 'intuitive' then it's not my kind of intuition. Well, at least for now i could revert to sysvinit. But i can't use Gnome apps anymore. Well it doesn't really hurt :) About claws, it seemed to me there was a problem with the theme configurator working together with 'dconf' which seems to be a preferred (lightweigth?) alternative for gconf. OTOH gconf package says it's the newer one. What happened is, i 'experimentally' tried to clean my system not only from 'systemd' but also from any systemd libraries, and while i was at it, also from anything 'avahi' (which i also never liked, by concept, and guess what, it's from the same developer) and this deinstalled most of gnome related apps, and broke some other dependencies. I was able to resolve it but afterward, quite some libraries were changed. I'm not sure if there was 'dconf' from the beginning, or any 'conf' at all, but my theme was working until the last package actions. My system does not represent a 'default' Debian testing anymore so someone else may check their packages. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Aug 20 22:56:27 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 20:56:27 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3252] New: smtp authentication at smtp server of GMX fails - permanent error - no sending Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3252 Bug ID: 3252 Summary: smtp authentication at smtp server of GMX fails - permanent error - no sending Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.9.2 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: critical Priority: P3 Component: SMTP Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: jpg153 at yahoo.de Since some month GMX changed to SSL/STARTTLS when accessing the mail account (free mail). Retrieving emails from the POP3 server runs flawless. Sending emails worked, since some weeks ago it stopped because of an authetication error when logging in to the smtp server. After a few days all went normal. Now I have the same issue again and this time persistent. I tried to change settings in Clawsmail to get around the problem, but regardless which setting I chose, none works. The most common and so critical error is: * Konto: 'XXXXXX at gmx.de': Verbinde mit SMTP-Server: mail.gmx.net:587... [22:52:44] SMTP< 220 gmx.com (mrgmx102) Nemesis ESMTP Service ready [22:52:44] ESMTP> EHLO gmx.net [22:52:44] ESMTP< 250-gmx.com Hello gmx.net [88.76.173.36] [22:52:44] ESMTP< 250-SIZE 69920427 [22:52:44] ESMTP< 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN [22:52:44] ESMTP< 250 STARTTLS [22:52:44] ESMTP> STARTTLS [22:52:44] ESMTP< 220 OK [22:52:44] ESMTP> EHLO gmx.net [22:52:44] ESMTP< 250-gmx.com Hello gmx.net [88.76.173.36] [22:52:44] ESMTP< 250-SIZE 69920427 [22:52:44] ESMTP< 250 AUTH LOGIN PLAIN [22:52:44] ESMTP> AUTH LOGIN [22:52:44] ESMTP< 334 VXNlcm5hbWU6 [22:52:44] ESMTP> [USERID] [22:52:44] ESMTP< 334 UGFzc3dvcmQ6 [22:52:44] ESMTP> [PASSWORD] [22:52:44] ESMTP< 535 Authentication credentials invalid ** Fehler bei der Anmeldung *** Authentifizierung schlug fehl: 535 Authentication credentials invalid I have no idea whether this is a bug in Clawsmail or a bug at GMX. However, GMX support is too busy or not replying. Thanks for looking into the problem. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Aug 21 07:31:50 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 05:31:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3253] New: all addresses of getaddrinfo() result should be tried Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3253 Bug ID: 3253 Summary: all addresses of getaddrinfo() result should be tried Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Other Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: timo.teras at iki.fi If I have multiple A and/or AAAA records for hostname, only the first result returned by getaddrinfo() for which a socket can be created is tried. This means if that IP-address is not responsive (timeouts), the others are not tried. E.g. imap.gmail.com has two A records, and one AAAA record. It has happened sometimes that the first A result timeouts, but the second A works. In these instances it is not possible to connect. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Aug 21 08:31:03 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 06:31:03 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3252] smtp authentication at smtp server of GMX fails - permanent error - no sending In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3252 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|critical |normal --- Comment #1 from Paul --- This looks like an issue with finding the correct settings rather than a bug and therefore would be much better suited to the mailing list rather than a bug report. See http://www.claws-mail.org/MLs.php What settings have you tried? Have you looked here: https://hilfe.gmx.net/mailprogramme/pop3.html Have you tried with the latest release of Claws Mail? 3.9.2 was released over a year ago. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Aug 21 10:26:26 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 08:26:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3246] attachment open: "remember this" ignored if ~/.mailcap does not exist In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3246 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #6 from users at lists.claws-mail.org --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://git.claws-mail.org/ ++ ChangeLog 2014-08-19 20:02:02.617997192 +0200 http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f51db94774e67c7e6b8f32611d62f957c2c9972 Merge: 681b34b f1fd770 Author: Colin Leroy Date: Tue Aug 19 20:02:02 2014 +0200 Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=f1fd770f62d2239bfc0f4ad0e8369f30c370b789 Author: Ricardo Mones Date: Wed Aug 13 23:27:14 2014 +0200 Improve translation (Debian bug #757929) http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=7a114d508a42a8d7282011a2c46cf8aa7aa4eaef Author: Ricardo Mones Date: Tue Aug 19 17:17:30 2014 +0200 Fix bug #3246 ‘attachment open: "remember this" ignored if ~/.mailcap does not exist’ Add also a warning if intermediate file cannot be created. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Aug 21 10:32:57 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 08:32:57 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3244] Claws-mail fails connection to imap server as "connection refused" (ipv6=unreachable, ipv4=reachable) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3244 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |LATER --- Comment #1 from Paul --- version 3.9.0 is 18 months old and several releases and many changes have happened since then. Re-open this bug if you can reproduce it with the latest release. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Aug 21 11:27:43 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 09:27:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3252] smtp authentication at smtp server of GMX fails - permanent error - no sending In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3252 --- Comment #2 from jpg153 at yahoo.de --- (In reply to comment #1) > This looks like an issue with finding the correct settings rather than a bug > and therefore would be much better suited to the mailing list rather than a > bug report. See http://www.claws-mail.org/MLs.php > > What settings have you tried? Have you looked here: > https://hilfe.gmx.net/mailprogramme/pop3.html > > Have you tried with the latest release of Claws Mail? 3.9.2 was released > over a year ago. Well, maybe. I will check further and comment. I am relying on the versions which are offered by the Salix team (my preferred distro). I will however ask them for an update to a newer version of clawsmail. GMX help was so far of no help...but I got in touch with a Salix user using a GMX account as well. You are probably right re Mailing list. I did not consider that option, sorry. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Aug 21 11:31:34 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 09:31:34 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3252] smtp authentication at smtp server of GMX fails - permanent error - no sending In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3252 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |LATER -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From ftdorado at ono.com Thu Aug 21 21:31:37 2014 From: ftdorado at ono.com (Felipe T. Dorado) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:31:37 +0200 Subject: [Users] Saving all attachments of a list Message-ID: <20140821213137.5abb3d4a@aguacate2.fruta2.org> Hello : ) Been using Claws for a few years now. Thank you all who made that possible : ) A question: I need to recollect all attachments received from a mail-list. Is there a way of extracting/saving all mail attachments received from a given list or folder? I have been looking for them in all files and claws doc but have not been able to find them. Only the header and uuencoded file attachment included in the source of each message. Unfortunately I do not know enough to be able to make a script to extract these portions of the source and uudecode them : ( If someone can provide some pointer it would save me the trouble of going through all messages of that list and save each of the attachments. Thank you. Felipe : ) From jpg153 at yahoo.de Thu Aug 21 21:29:20 2014 From: jpg153 at yahoo.de (Juergen Gaida) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:29:20 +0100 Subject: [Users] WG: [Bug 3252] smtp authentication at smtp server of GMX fails - permanent error - no sending In-Reply-To: <1408648340.74536.YahooMailNeo@web172404.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1408648340.74536.YahooMailNeo@web172404.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1408649360.12099.YahooMailNeo@web172402.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> I still did not find a way through. All settings which are expected to work do not work. STARTTLS on port 587 does not work. SSL on port 465 does not work either. Other options (non blocking SSL, etc.) do not have any positive effect. The result is always the same: 553 Authentication credentials invalid. The authentication credentials are the same for POP3 and SMTP. They work for POP3 but not for SMTP. It also does not matter if I use my email address for logging in or the account number. I have no idea where to look next... Juergen Gaida schrieb am 21:12 Donnerstag, 21.August 2014: I still did not find a way through. All settings which are expected to work do not work. STARTTLS on port 587 does not work. SSL on port 465 does not work either. Other options (non blocking SSL, etc.) do not have any positive effect. The result is always the same: 553 Authentication credentials invalid. The authentication credentials are the same for POP3 and SMTP. They work for POP3 but not for SMTP. It also does not matter if I use my email address for logging in or the account number. I have no idea where to look next... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pf at pfortin.com Fri Aug 22 00:08:31 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 18:08:31 -0400 Subject: [Users] WG: [Bug 3252] smtp authentication at smtp server of GMX fails - permanent error - no sending In-Reply-To: <1408649360.12099.YahooMailNeo@web172402.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1408648340.74536.YahooMailNeo@web172404.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <1408649360.12099.YahooMailNeo@web172402.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140821180831.7bda5822@pfortin.com> On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:29:20 +0100 Juergen Gaida wrote: >The result is always the same: 553 Authentication credentials invalid. Have you checked the less obvious? Maybe a space or TAB or other whitespace in the userid or password fields? Or a typo? Sometimes the server is really telling you where to focus... I can connect to mail.gmx.net at various ports (see below); but I don't have an account.... Note that port 465 does not identify itself as an ESMTP server... HTH, Pierre $ telnet mail.gmx.net 25 Trying 212.227.17.190... Connected to mail.gmx.net. Escape character is '^]'. 220 gmx.com (mrgmx002) Nemesis ESMTP Service ready quit 221 gmx.com Service closing transmission channel Connection closed by foreign host. $ telnet mail.gmx.net 465 Trying 212.227.17.168... Connected to mail.gmx.net. Escape character is '^]'. quit Connection closed by foreign host. $ telnet mail.gmx.net 587 Trying 212.227.17.190... Connected to mail.gmx.net. Escape character is '^]'. 220 gmx.com (mrgmx001) Nemesis ESMTP Service ready quit 221 gmx.com Service closing transmission channel Connection closed by foreign host. From jinhuang.cs at gmail.com Fri Aug 22 02:17:01 2014 From: jinhuang.cs at gmail.com (Jin Huang) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 17:17:01 -0700 Subject: [Users] How to remove attachment remove a received message? Message-ID: <20140821171701.0d8da60f@hj-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Y480> Hi all, I am using version 3.9.3 and loaded AttRemover plugin, but even after restarting claws-mail, there is no any UI (menu or bottom) stuff to let me remove a selected attachment. What is wrong here? Thank you! Jin From ml at terranean.eu Fri Aug 22 04:03:54 2014 From: ml at terranean.eu (=?UTF-8?B?U8OpYmFzdGllbg==?=) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 04:03:54 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to remove attachment remove a received message? In-Reply-To: <20140821171701.0d8da60f@hj-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Y480> References: <20140821171701.0d8da60f@hj-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Y480> Message-ID: <20140822040354.26a99e1d@sentinel> le 2014-08-21 à 17:17, Jin écrivit: > I am using version 3.9.3 and loaded AttRemover plugin, but even after > restarting claws-mail, there is no any UI (menu or bottom) stuff to > let me remove a selected attachment. What is wrong here? You need to right-click on a message in the messages list, and click "Remove attachment..." at the bottom. From there you can select which attachment you want to remove. -- Sébastien From jinhuang.cs at gmail.com Fri Aug 22 04:18:22 2014 From: jinhuang.cs at gmail.com (Jin Huang) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:18:22 -0700 Subject: [Users] How to remove attachment remove a received message? In-Reply-To: <20140822040354.26a99e1d@sentinel> References: <20140821171701.0d8da60f@hj-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Y480> <20140822040354.26a99e1d@sentinel> Message-ID: <20140821191822.02938632@hj-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Y480> Hi Sébastien, Thank you for the reply! It works! There is no any some information about the original attachments left in the message body. It should be useful to leave such information there in the future version of AttRemover. Best, Jin On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 04:03:54 +0200 Sébastien wrote: > le 2014-08-21 à 17:17, Jin écrivit: > > I am using version 3.9.3 and loaded AttRemover plugin, but even after > > restarting claws-mail, there is no any UI (menu or bottom) stuff to > > let me remove a selected attachment. What is wrong here? > > You need to right-click on a message in the messages list, and click > "Remove attachment..." at the bottom. From there you can select which > attachment you want to remove. > From ricardo at mones.org Fri Aug 22 09:17:52 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:17:52 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to remove attachment remove a received message? In-Reply-To: <20140821191822.02938632@hj-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Y480> References: <20140821171701.0d8da60f@hj-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Y480> <20140822040354.26a99e1d@sentinel> <20140821191822.02938632@hj-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Y480> Message-ID: <20140822071751.GB17556@trasgu> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 07:18:22PM -0700, Jin Huang wrote: > Hi Sébastien, > > Thank you for the reply! It works! > > There is no any some information about the original attachments left > in the message body. It should be useful to leave such information > there in the future version of AttRemover. http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2931 Patches welcome ;) -- Ricardo Mones ~ RTFM - "Read The Manual" (The 'F' is silent). Usually a very good idea. Bjarne Stroustrup -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jpg153 at yahoo.de Fri Aug 22 11:36:27 2014 From: jpg153 at yahoo.de (Juergen Gaida) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 10:36:27 +0100 Subject: [Users] WG: [Bug 3252] smtp authentication at smtp server of GMX fails - permanent error - no sending In-Reply-To: <20140821180831.7bda5822@pfortin.com> References: <1408648340.74536.YahooMailNeo@web172404.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <1408649360.12099.YahooMailNeo@web172402.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140821180831.7bda5822@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <1408700187.22141.YahooMailNeo@web172401.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> " Have you checked the less obvious? Maybe a space or TAB or other whitespace in the userid or password fields? Or a typo? Sometimes the server is really telling you where to focus... I can connect to mail.gmx.net at various ports (see below); but I don't have an account.... Note that port 465 does not identify itself as an ESMTP server... " Hi, SPACE, TAB or WhiteSpace or TYPO is not an issue. I have cleared and re-typed often enough. Same credentials are used for POP3 and SMTP...and POP3 works flawless. I am checking with a user of the salixos community, but... Anyway, I will report after checking the obvious and inobvious later on. Thanks so far. Pierre Fortin schrieb am 0:08 Freitag, 22.August 2014: On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:29:20 +0100 Juergen Gaida wrote: >The result is always the same: 553 Authentication credentials invalid. Have you checked the less obvious? Maybe a space or TAB or other whitespace in the userid or password fields? Or a typo? Sometimes the server is really telling you where to focus... I can connect to mail.gmx.net at various ports (see below); but I don't have an account.... Note that port 465 does not identify itself as an ESMTP server... HTH, Pierre $ telnet mail.gmx.net 25 Trying 212.227.17.190... Connected to mail.gmx.net. Escape character is '^]'. 220 gmx.com (mrgmx002) Nemesis ESMTP Service ready quit 221 gmx.com Service closing transmission channel Connection closed by foreign host. $ telnet mail.gmx.net 465 Trying 212.227.17.168... Connected to mail.gmx.net. Escape character is '^]'. quit Connection closed by foreign host. $ telnet mail.gmx.net 587 Trying 212.227.17.190... Connected to mail.gmx.net. Escape character is '^]'. 220 gmx.com (mrgmx001) Nemesis ESMTP Service ready quit 221 gmx.com Service closing transmission channel Connection closed by foreign host. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pf at pfortin.com Fri Aug 22 13:43:39 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 07:43:39 -0400 Subject: [Users] WG: [Bug 3252] smtp authentication at smtp server of GMX fails - permanent error - no sending In-Reply-To: <1408700187.22141.YahooMailNeo@web172401.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1408648340.74536.YahooMailNeo@web172404.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <1408649360.12099.YahooMailNeo@web172402.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140821180831.7bda5822@pfortin.com> <1408700187.22141.YahooMailNeo@web172401.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20140822074339.27d833b9@pfortin.com> On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 10:36:27 +0100 Juergen Gaida wrote: >Same credentials are used for POP3 and SMTP...and POP3 works flawless. - Are you leaving the credentials blank in the Send panel? - Using "Authenticate with POP3 before send"? - are you sure you are pointing SMTP at the right server/port? I ask because my provider has different servers for different account levels -- my main mail goes to a secure server, while some of my other lesser accounts go to a normal, less secure server. In addition, the secure server even uses a very non-conventional 4-digit port. BTW, this is the .signature file I used circa 1990 after several years involved in the Internet's early deployment days: "Until you've found AND fixed a problem, what you discount will likely be the source." That was my way of saying the most difficult problems usually have a very simple/subtle cause which is/was too "unlikely" to take seriously... :) :) Good luck, Pierre From jpg153 at yahoo.de Fri Aug 22 14:52:55 2014 From: jpg153 at yahoo.de (Juergen Gaida) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:52:55 +0100 Subject: [Users] WG: [Bug 3252] smtp authentication at smtp server of GMX fails - permanent error - no sending In-Reply-To: <20140822074339.27d833b9@pfortin.com> References: <1408648340.74536.YahooMailNeo@web172404.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <1408649360.12099.YahooMailNeo@web172402.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140821180831.7bda5822@pfortin.com> <1408700187.22141.YahooMailNeo@web172401.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140822074339.27d833b9@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <1408711975.35142.YahooMailNeo@web172402.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> >>Same credentials are used for POP3 and SMTP...and POP3 works flawless. >- Are you leaving the credentials blank in the Send panel? >- Using "Authenticate with POP3 before send"? >- are you sure you are pointing SMTP at the right server/port? I ask > because my provider has different servers for different account levels > -- my main mail goes to a secure server, while some of my other lesser > accounts go to a normal, less secure server. In addition, the secure > server even uses a very non-conventional 4-digit port. I left them blank as well as I filled in the user name and password - no change My standard was/is to leave it blank. No, Authentication via POP3 before send is not required - and does not work if I switch it on. And, yes, it is the right server and the right port. It all worked for weeks and then it stopped, all by a sudden. Then it worked again (without changes on my system) and after some weeks it stopped again - this time persistent. So, you are right, unless I have not sorted out all possible sources of the failure, I cannot be sure to be at the base line. And my own failure is also possible and it truely was often enough - just a missed tick or a tick too much, a typo, a wrong number... - more often than the software.... So, lets see where I will end up this time :-) Pierre Fortin schrieb am 13:43 Freitag, 22.August 2014: On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 10:36:27 +0100 Juergen Gaida wrote: >Same credentials are used for POP3 and SMTP...and POP3 works flawless. - Are you leaving the credentials blank in the Send panel? - Using "Authenticate with POP3 before send"? - are you sure you are pointing SMTP at the right server/port? I ask because my provider has different servers for different account levels -- my main mail goes to a secure server, while some of my other lesser accounts go to a normal, less secure server. In addition, the secure server even uses a very non-conventional 4-digit port. BTW, this is the .signature file I used circa 1990 after several years involved in the Internet's early deployment days: "Until you've found AND fixed a problem, what you discount will likely be the source." That was my way of saying the most difficult problems usually have a very simple/subtle cause which is/was too "unlikely" to take seriously... :) :) Good luck, Pierre -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gheskett at wdtv.com Fri Aug 22 15:08:20 2014 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:08:20 -0400 Subject: [Users] WG: [Bug 3252] smtp authentication at smtp server of GMX fails - permanent error - no sending In-Reply-To: <20140822074339.27d833b9@pfortin.com> References: <1408648340.74536.YahooMailNeo@web172404.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <1408700187.22141.YahooMailNeo@web172401.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140822074339.27d833b9@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <201408220908.20610.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Friday 22 August 2014 07:43:39 Pierre Fortin did opine And Gene did reply: > On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 10:36:27 +0100 Juergen Gaida wrote: > >Same credentials are used for POP3 and SMTP...and POP3 works flawless. > > - Are you leaving the credentials blank in the Send panel? > - Using "Authenticate with POP3 before send"? > - are you sure you are pointing SMTP at the right server/port? I ask > because my provider has different servers for different account > levels -- my main mail goes to a secure server, while some of my other > lesser accounts go to a normal, less secure server. In addition, the > secure server even uses a very non-conventional 4-digit port. > > > > BTW, this is the .signature file I used circa 1990 after several years > involved in the Internet's early deployment days: > > "Until you've found AND fixed a problem, > what you discount will likely be the source." > > That was my way of saying the most difficult problems usually have a > very simple/subtle cause which is/was too "unlikely" to take > seriously... :) :) > > Good luck, > Pierre A lesson yet to be learned by many here from what I read as it goes by. Example, straight out of the School of Hard Knocks: One of those "its so obvious nobody would be dumb enough" to make that error, so you spend too much time dancing around it. Like the time I had just put fresh batteries in all the news sets mikes, went live for the noon show and one mike was obviously sick. Fresh batteries was SOP around the 1st of the month at my tv station. I spent 15 minutes after the show fooling around with the board thinking a channel had gone south. Turns out a brand new alkaline battery was only making .8 volts. I took to carrying the dvm with me when replacing batteries after that. Guess who broke the cellophane wrapper on that pack of batteries? Moi. Duh. :( Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS From jpg153 at yahoo.de Fri Aug 22 17:00:24 2014 From: jpg153 at yahoo.de (Juergen Gaida) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:00:24 +0100 Subject: [Users] WG: [Bug 3252] smtp authentication at smtp server of GMX fails - permanent error - no sending In-Reply-To: <1408711975.35142.YahooMailNeo@web172402.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1408648340.74536.YahooMailNeo@web172404.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <1408649360.12099.YahooMailNeo@web172402.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140821180831.7bda5822@pfortin.com> <1408700187.22141.YahooMailNeo@web172401.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140822074339.27d833b9@pfortin.com> <1408711975.35142.YahooMailNeo@web172402.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1408719624.18446.YahooMailNeo@web172406.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> "Until you've found AND fixed a problem, what you discount will likely be the source." So, FIXED. It was indeed a settings failure - an unobvious one for me, obvious for others? I had an invalid entry in "configuration > account settings > advanced > domain name". I thought the domain name there is the domain name of the email provider. But, exactly this caused the server to refuse authentication as it collided with his internal names...or so. Still a bit confused why it did work so long... Now that I have chosen a different name, it runs. Maybe I will untick the box later on...to avoid any trouble at that point (again). So thanks for looking into and sorry for the trouble... Best regards Jürgen Juergen Gaida schrieb am 14:52 Freitag, 22.August 2014: >>Same credentials are used for POP3 and SMTP...and POP3 works flawless. >- Are you leaving the credentials blank in the Send panel? >- Using "Authenticate with POP3 before send"? >- are you sure you are pointing SMTP at the right server/port? I ask > because my provider has different servers for different account levels > -- my main mail goes to a secure server, while some of my other lesser > accounts go to a normal, less secure server. In addition, the secure > server even uses a very non-conventional 4-digit port. I left them blank as well as I filled in the user name and password - no change My standard was/is to leave it blank. No, Authentication via POP3 before send is not required - and does not work if I switch it on. And, yes, it is the right server and the right port. It all worked for weeks and then it stopped, all by a sudden. Then it worked again (without changes on my system) and after some weeks it stopped again - this time persistent. So, you are right, unless I have not sorted out all possible sources of the failure, I cannot be sure to be at the base line. And my own failure is also possible and it truely was often enough - just a missed tick or a tick too much, a typo, a wrong number... - more often than the software.... So, lets see where I will end up this time :-) Pierre Fortin schrieb am 13:43 Freitag, 22.August 2014: On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 10:36:27 +0100 Juergen Gaida wrote: >Same credentials are used for POP3 and SMTP...and POP3 works flawless. - Are you leaving the credentials blank in the Send panel? - Using "Authenticate with POP3 before send"? - are you sure you are pointing SMTP at the right server/port? I ask because my provider has different servers for different account levels -- my main mail goes to a secure server, while some of my other lesser accounts go to a normal, less secure server. In addition, the secure server even uses a very non-conventional 4-digit port. BTW, this is the .signature file I used circa 1990 after several years involved in the Internet's early deployment days: "Until you've found AND fixed a problem, what you discount will likely be the source." That was my way of saying the most difficult problems usually have a very simple/subtle cause which is/was too "unlikely" to take seriously... :) :) Good luck, Pierre -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ftdorado at ono.com Fri Aug 22 19:22:02 2014 From: ftdorado at ono.com (Felipe T. Dorado) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:22:02 +0200 Subject: [Users] Saving all attachments of a list In-Reply-To: <20140822110605.1b8513e2@papi.home> References: <20140821213137.5abb3d4a@aguacate2.fruta2.org> <20140822110605.1b8513e2@papi.home> Message-ID: <20140822192202.77502954@aguacate2.fruta2.org> Hola Páder : ) On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 11:06:05 +0200, Páder escribió: PR> > Unfortunately I do not know enough to be able to make a script to PR> > extract these portions of the source and uudecode them : ( PR> PR> 5 years ago H.Merijn Brand wrote a little perl script, which extracts PR> all attachments from emails. PR> I attach this script for you. Great! Many thanks, Páder : ) Just what I needed. And it works very well. And thanks to H.Merijn Brand, too : ) Felipe : ) From pf at pfortin.com Fri Aug 22 20:40:19 2014 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 14:40:19 -0400 Subject: [Users] WG: [Bug 3252] smtp authentication at smtp server of GMX fails - permanent error - no sending In-Reply-To: <201408220908.20610.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <1408648340.74536.YahooMailNeo@web172404.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <1408700187.22141.YahooMailNeo@web172401.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20140822074339.27d833b9@pfortin.com> <201408220908.20610.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <20140822144019.410c5dc1@pfortin.com> On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:08:20 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: >On Friday 22 August 2014 07:43:39 Pierre Fortin did opine >> "Until you've found AND fixed a problem, >> what you discount will likely be the source." >> >> That was my way of saying the most difficult problems usually have a >> very simple/subtle cause which is/was too "unlikely" to take >> seriously... :) :) >A lesson yet to be learned by many here from what I read as it goes by. > >Example, straight out of the School of Hard Knocks: > >One of those "its so obvious nobody would be dumb enough" to make that >error, so you spend too much time dancing around it. Like the time I >had just put fresh batteries in all the news sets mikes, went live for >the noon show and one mike was obviously sick. Fresh batteries was SOP >around the 1st of the month at my tv station. I spent 15 minutes after >the show fooling around with the board thinking a channel had gone >south. Turns out a brand new alkaline battery was only making .8 >volts. I took to carrying the dvm with me when replacing batteries >after that. > >Guess who broke the cellophane wrapper on that pack of batteries? Moi. >Duh. :( > >Cheers, Gene Heskett Agreed... DVM is always used here... after _3_ "fresh" sets... :) I first wrote that .sig after a number of problems turned out to be: - "impossible -- it's been working for 10 years" -- incorrectly wired from day one; magnetic latch could not be re-enabled. - "no way! We just ran diagnostics on everything..." -- the tech was blown away after finding every ribbon cable was bad after his tests - "it has to be true or false" -- not when lt, le, eq, ge, gt exist and my list can go on and on; but this is OT... though it doesn't hurt to revisit the concept... :) :) Pierre - From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Aug 22 23:20:48 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 21:20:48 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3254] New: When Tab-Completing, give priority to order of email addresses in Address Book Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3254 Bug ID: 3254 Summary: When Tab-Completing, give priority to order of email addresses in Address Book Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: UI/Compose Window Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: clawsmail at kushwaha.com In one of the recent changes, the tab-completion of email addresses was made a lot more flexible and it works great in most situations. However it does not give priority to the order of email addresses listed in the address book. That can be a problem at times. Consider an entry for John Doe in Address Book with 3 email addresses: John Doe johndoe at use-this-for-official-work.com johndoe at personal-emails-only.com johndoe at do-not-use-unless-urgent.com An entry like was used as-is previously. So when I typed "johnd"+TAB it used to give me the 3 addresses listed as such. I would do a DOWN arrow to select the most-often used email address (the one for official use) and be on my way. Now, because of the domain name rule, the "do-not-use-unless-urgent.com" comes up first in the list. :( If all things were equal and we had to go for domain-name based ordering, let's not do that for addresses listed in a single address book entry, showing them in the order they've been added to the address book? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From geoff at hughes.net Sat Aug 23 01:29:08 2014 From: geoff at hughes.net (Geoffrey Leach) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:29:08 -0700 Subject: [Users] Log from receive? Message-ID: <1408750148.1749.2@puget.mtranch.com> I'm having difficulty getting receive to work on a new system. Send works fine. It would be helpful to get a log of the transaction with the ISP's server. Is that info available? thanks. From cwallace at lodgingcompany.com Sat Aug 23 02:06:53 2014 From: cwallace at lodgingcompany.com (Chad Wallace) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:06:53 -0700 Subject: [Users] Log from receive? In-Reply-To: <1408750148.1749.2@puget.mtranch.com> References: <1408750148.1749.2@puget.mtranch.com> Message-ID: <20140822170653.137d9270@ws78.int.tlc> On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:29:08 -0700 Geoffrey Leach wrote: > I'm having difficulty getting receive to work on a new system. Send > works fine. It would be helpful to get a log of the transaction with > the ISP's server. Is that info available? Tools -> Network Log -- C. Chad Wallace, B.Sc. The Lodging Company http://www.lodgingcompany.com/ OpenPGP Public Key ID: 0x262208A0 From geoff at hughes.net Sat Aug 23 02:18:53 2014 From: geoff at hughes.net (Geoffrey Leach) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:18:53 -0700 Subject: [Users] Log from receive? In-Reply-To: <20140822170653.137d9270@ws78.int.tlc> (from cwallace@lodgingcompany.com on Fri Aug 22 17:06:53 2014) Message-ID: <1408753133.1749.3@puget.mtranch.com> Thanks. I had mis-configured the server. Perhaps the problem is that I don't even get that far. There's nothing in the network log when I punch Get Mail On 08/22/2014 05:06:53 PM, Chad Wallace wrote: > On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:29:08 -0700 > Geoffrey Leach wrote: > > > I'm having difficulty getting receive to work on a new system. Send > > works fine. It would be helpful to get a log of the transaction with > > the ISP's server. Is that info available? > > Tools -> Network Log > > > -- > > C. Chad Wallace, B.Sc. > The Lodging Company > http://www.lodgingcompany.com/ > OpenPGP Public Key ID: 0x262208A0 > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > From andrej at kacian.sk Sat Aug 23 03:04:47 2014 From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 03:04:47 +0200 Subject: [Users] Log from receive? In-Reply-To: <1408753133.1749.3@puget.mtranch.com> References: <20140822170653.137d9270@ws78.int.tlc> <1408753133.1749.3@puget.mtranch.com> Message-ID: <20140823030447.7270c1c9@penny> On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:18:53 -0700 Geoffrey Leach wrote: > Thanks. I had mis-configured the server. > > Perhaps the problem is that I don't even get that far. There's > nothing in the network log when I punch Get Mail Hi, you could check if the network logging is not disabled in preferences, on page Other->Logging. -- Andrej From itz at buug.org Sat Aug 23 03:26:16 2014 From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:26:16 -0700 Subject: [Users] icon theme configurator not working with dconf-gsettings-backend ? In-Reply-To: <20140820160513.2625da46@mirrors.kernel.org> References: <20140820033741.3172c525@mirrors.kernel.org> <20140820084814.360b3e8e@thewildbeast> <20140820160513.2625da46@mirrors.kernel.org> Message-ID: <20140822182616.3d11b49b.itz@buug.org> On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:05:13 +0200, Michael wrote: [... much OT Gnome & systemd stuff elided ...] My ideology is somewhat similar to yours, though I'm a bit more shy about it. What I seem to have done is to pin gsettings-desktop-schemas to version 3.0.1-1 (probably the squeeze version). That one allows me to stay without either gconf or dconf. -- Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages. Local Variables: mode:claws-external End: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Aug 23 19:50:43 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 17:50:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3244] Claws-mail fails connection to imap server as "connection refused" (ipv6=unreachable, ipv4=reachable) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3244 Bruno changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Version|3.9.0 |3.10.1 Resolution|LATER |--- --- Comment #2 from Bruno --- Updated to 3.10.1 and the issue is the same. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Aug 23 20:35:32 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 18:35:32 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3255] New: Some parts of UI badly adapt to large font sizes/HDPI Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3255 Bug ID: 3255 Summary: Some parts of UI badly adapt to large font sizes/HDPI Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: UI Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: bonbons67 at internet.lu Created attachment 1426 --> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1426&action=edit Extended filter dialog Some parts of Claws-Mail UI do not properly adapt to increased font size (e.g. for high-DPI/retina systems). Sample case: Extended filter dialog for message list Most dialogs start rather small (default size expressed in pixels instead of relative to font size?) and need to be resized before being usable. All widget/window sizes should be proportional to font size so their intended content has enough space, though not exceeding monitor size. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From brad at fineby.me.uk Sun Aug 24 13:52:28 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 12:52:28 +0100 Subject: [Users] NOTICE when compiling from GIT today. Message-ID: <20140824125228.1bae8817@abydos.stargate.org.uk> To Dev Team, Compiling from GIT to day, I spotted the following notices: NOTICE: ./po/ca.po is not in UTF-8 but iso-8859-1, converting... NOTICE: ./po/hr.po is not in UTF-8 but ISO-8859-2, converting... NOTICE: ./po/nb.po is not in UTF-8 but iso-8859-1, converting... NOTICE: ./po/pl.po is not in UTF-8 but ISO-8859-2, converting... Merging translations into claws-mail.desktop. Not an issue for me (I use en_GB exclusively), and probably not a big deal in any case, but thought it worth mentioning, "just in case". -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" If Adolf Hitler flew in today, they'd send a limousine anyway (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais - The Clash -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I cannot think of a case where this behavior would be more convenient than the natural one, i.e. keep the selection state as it was before the action. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Aug 24 21:06:47 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 19:06:47 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3257] New: Please support internationalized domain name Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3257 Bug ID: 3257 Summary: Please support internationalized domain name Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: GIT Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Other Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: gusnan at gusnan.se Please support internationalized domain name - for information, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalized_domain_name and https://wiki.debian.org/IDN - there is also a related problem, see this image: http://www.gusnan.se/claws/internationalization.png best regards /Andreas -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Aug 25 10:42:09 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 08:42:09 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3257] Please support internationalized domain name In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3257 Ricardo Mones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones --- *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 1670 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Aug 25 10:42:09 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 08:42:09 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 1670] Punycode not implemented In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1670 Ricardo Mones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |gusnan at gusnan.se --- Comment #10 from Ricardo Mones --- *** Bug 3257 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Aug 25 16:09:19 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:09:19 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3258] New: plugins regularly lost, preferences sometimes lost Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3258 Bug ID: 3258 Summary: plugins regularly lost, preferences sometimes lost Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.9.3 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: richard at darton-moore.co.uk I'm using Linux Mint Qiana. My plugins keep unloading between boots. Not every time but regularly. Also my preferences are resetting to the defaults regularly. For instance I prefer my signature at the top when replying, but regularly find that it has reverted to the bottom of the message. This is getting really frustrating! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From gour at atmarama.net Mon Aug 25 17:03:35 2014 From: gour at atmarama.net (Gour) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:03:35 +0200 Subject: [Users] mail archiver - best practices Message-ID: <20140825170335.149940e2@atmarama.ddns.net> Hello, my maildir tree is ~3.7G and I'm thinking that the time is ripe to deploy mail archive plugin within Claws. Can anybody share some of the 'best practices' in using it, iow. do you use compression (tar,bz2), which format (tar?), how often to archive, using recursive folder structure etc.? Of course, from time to time there is need to find some old message(s) and I wonder what do you use to search within the archive? Any other point I forgot to ask? Sincerely, Gour -- In the material world, one who is unaffected by whatever good or evil he may obtain, neither praising it nor despising it, is firmly fixed in perfect knowledge. From mir at miras.org Mon Aug 25 17:21:14 2014 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:21:14 +0200 Subject: [Users] mail archiver - best practices In-Reply-To: <20140825170335.149940e2@atmarama.ddns.net> References: <20140825170335.149940e2@atmarama.ddns.net> Message-ID: <20140825172114.6e8e43c3@sleipner.datanom.net> On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:03:35 +0200 Gour wrote: > > Can anybody share some of the 'best practices' in using it, iow. do you > use compression (tar,bz2), which format (tar?), how often to archive, > using recursive folder structure etc.? > For best cross platform support I would choose tar and zip for archive. > Of course, from time to time there is need to find some old message(s) > and I wonder what do you use to search within the archive? > If you choose the option rename then the file names inside the archive will use descriptive names (date_from at to@subject) which should be easily searchable with any disend archiver. > Any other point I forgot to ask? > You could consider the option 'Select mails before' YYYY-MM-DD. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: People who are funny and smart and return phone calls get much better press than people who are just funny and smart. -- Howard Simons, "The Washington Post" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Aug 25 19:15:23 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:15:23 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3258] plugins regularly lost, preferences sometimes lost In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3258 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Paul --- quit Claws cleanly and correctly and your settings will be saved. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From gour at atmarama.net Mon Aug 25 19:16:22 2014 From: gour at atmarama.net (Gour) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 19:16:22 +0200 Subject: [Users] mail archiver - best practices References: <20140825170335.149940e2@atmarama.ddns.net> <20140825172114.6e8e43c3@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20140825191622.796eac73@atmarama.ddns.net> On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:21:14 +0200 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > For best cross platform support I would choose tar and zip for > archive. I'm using only Linux, butI agree that tar/zip are good combo. > If you choose the option rename then the file names inside the archive > will use descriptive names (date_from at to@subject) which should be > easily searchable with any disend archiver. That's nice. However, I wonder about some tool to enable me to search for *content* within compressed tarball? Any hint? > You could consider the option 'Select mails before' YYYY-MM-DD. That's nice. Is it possible to do it automagically via some custom action to do it similarly, iirc, as mutt, iow. to e.g. create folder's archive every month/6monthy/year or so? Sincerely, Gour -- One who restrains his senses, keeping them under full control, and fixes his consciousness upon Me, is known as a man of steady intelligence. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Any hint? > tar tz |egrep 'posix_regex' The above will generate a list of file names and provided you have used option rename you should be able to find what you are looking for. > That's nice. Is it possible to do it automagically via some custom > action to do it similarly, iirc, as mutt, iow. to e.g. create folder's > archive every month/6monthy/year or so? > I don't know. Maybe the python or perl plugin could be used to automate things. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/games/fortune -es says: There's nothing worse for your business than extra Santa Clauses smoking in the men's room. -- W. 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From slitt at troubleshooters.com Tue Aug 26 00:34:07 2014 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 18:34:07 -0400 Subject: [Users] How to compile claws on Debian Wheezy? Message-ID: <20140825183407.45e19976@mydesq2.domain.cxm> Hi all, On Debian Wheezy, Claws-Mail *appears to* make my mouse pointer twitchy and makes it disappear when a popup message appears. This always happens after I've run Claws, downloaded mail, clicked on a message, and mouse-hovered over a message in the message list. The only way to (temporarily) make it go away is to restart X and not run Claws. As you can imagine, this is an annoyance, but it's a showstopper when I use Inkscape, because I can't drag rectangles exactly to construction lines. This thing's intermittent, and now I'm down to speculation, guesswork and prayer, and I'm hoping maybe it's confined to the version of Claws packaged by Debian Wheezy. I therefore want to compile my own Claws-Mail, in the hope that it won't produce this problem. Do you think it will be a problem compiling the latest and greatest Claws-Mail, which I guess right now is 3.10.1, on Debian Wheezy 64 bit with 16GB RAM? Does anyone have anything to add to the INSTALL file that's in the tarball? If I ./configure it so that it's installed under my home directory instead of /usr/local or wherever, can I run it in parallel with the Wheezy packaged version (3.8.1)? And most important, does anyone have any ideas of compile options I can enable, or more likely disable, in order that Claws has no effect on the mouse pointer? Any words of wisdom would be appreciated. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance From scott at laircpa.com Tue Aug 26 00:55:27 2014 From: scott at laircpa.com (Scott Lair) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 18:55:27 -0400 Subject: [Users] How to compile claws on Debian Wheezy? In-Reply-To: <20140825183407.45e19976@mydesq2.domain.cxm> References: <20140825183407.45e19976@mydesq2.domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20140825185527.05dd4912@debian-scottmyth.lairhome.com> On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 18:34:07 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > On Debian Wheezy, Claws-Mail *appears to* make my mouse pointer > twitchy and makes it disappear when a popup message appears. This > always happens after I've run Claws, downloaded mail, clicked on a > message, and mouse-hovered over a message in the message list. The > only way to (temporarily) make it go away is to restart X and not run > Claws. > > As you can imagine, this is an annoyance, but it's a showstopper when > I use Inkscape, because I can't drag rectangles exactly to > construction lines. > > This thing's intermittent, and now I'm down to speculation, guesswork > and prayer, and I'm hoping maybe it's confined to the version of Claws > packaged by Debian Wheezy. I therefore want to compile my own > Claws-Mail, in the hope that it won't produce this problem. > > Do you think it will be a problem compiling the latest and greatest > Claws-Mail, which I guess right now is 3.10.1, on Debian Wheezy 64 bit > with 16GB RAM? Does anyone have anything to add to the INSTALL file > that's in the tarball? If I ./configure it so that it's installed > under my home directory instead of /usr/local or wherever, can I run > it in parallel with the Wheezy packaged version (3.8.1)? > > And most important, does anyone have any ideas of compile options I > can enable, or more likely disable, in order that Claws has no effect > on the mouse pointer? > > Any words of wisdom would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > SteveT > > Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ > Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > You may want to try the backports first. Currently at 3.10.1. Working well on my system. Scott From itz at buug.org Tue Aug 26 01:42:31 2014 From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:42:31 -0700 Subject: [Users] How to compile claws on Debian Wheezy? In-Reply-To: <20140825183407.45e19976@mydesq2.domain.cxm> References: <20140825183407.45e19976@mydesq2.domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20140825164231.2a02498b.itz@buug.org> On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 18:34:07 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: Steve> On Debian Wheezy, Claws-Mail *appears to* make my mouse pointer Steve> twitchy and makes it disappear when a popup message appears. This Steve> always happens after I've run Claws, downloaded mail, clicked on Steve> a message, and mouse-hovered over a message in the message Steve> list. The only way to (temporarily) make it go away is to restart Steve> X and not run Claws. I have prepared my own 3.10.1 source package, which I can share with you. I don't have the problem you describe, but that means nothing: there are too many variables that can differ between my system and yours. Also, my selection of plugins is absolutely minimal at configure time, so I don't compile fancy, for example. (I had to do that to get rid of compiler warnings, which I want to treat as errors same way as I do for any other program). If you'd still like to try it, let me know. -- Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages. Local Variables: mode:claws-external End: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Aug 26 08:58:48 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 06:58:48 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3258] plugins regularly lost, preferences sometimes lost In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3258 --- Comment #3 from Paul --- How do you quit Claws? If this is the first time you've encountered this in years of doing it, then something must have changed on your system. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Aug 26 09:01:22 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 08:01:22 +0100 Subject: [Users] How to compile claws on Debian Wheezy? In-Reply-To: <20140825183407.45e19976@mydesq2.domain.cxm> References: <20140825183407.45e19976@mydesq2.domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20140826080122.3c0b4550@thewildbeast> It can't be Claws Mail causing that, but it could be one of the libraries on which it depends. regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Aug 26 09:02:41 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 08:02:41 +0100 Subject: [Users] How to compile claws on Debian Wheezy? In-Reply-To: <20140825164231.2a02498b.itz@buug.org> References: <20140825183407.45e19976@mydesq2.domain.cxm> <20140825164231.2a02498b.itz@buug.org> Message-ID: <20140826080241.7bf2d24c@thewildbeast> On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:42:31 -0700 Ian Zimmerman wrote: > Also, my selection of plugins is absolutely minimal at configure > time, so I don't compile fancy, for example. (I had to do that to > get rid of compiler warnings, which I want to treat as errors same > way as I do for any other program). But warnings are not errors, there's a distinct and clear difference between them. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From itz at buug.org Tue Aug 26 09:42:29 2014 From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 00:42:29 -0700 Subject: [Users] How to compile claws on Debian Wheezy? In-Reply-To: <20140826080241.7bf2d24c@thewildbeast> References: <20140825183407.45e19976@mydesq2.domain.cxm> <20140825164231.2a02498b.itz@buug.org> <20140826080241.7bf2d24c@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140826004229.446d690a.itz@buug.org> On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 08:02:41 +0100, Paul wrote: Ian> Also, my selection of plugins is absolutely minimal at configure Ian> time, so I don't compile fancy, for example. (I had to do that to Ian> get rid of compiler warnings, which I want to treat as errors same Ian> way as I do for any other program). Paul> But warnings are not errors, there's a distinct and clear Paul> difference between them. _Some_ warnings are clearly sign of sloppy and possibly dangerous code. For instance, assigning an address of a signed quantity to a pointer-to-signed variable or vice versa, which is very common and I think occurs in some of the plugins. Also, ignoring return values from syscalls. The problem is C semantics is so loose that there are too many possibly dangerous warnings like that, I cannot keep track of all of them (I bet you cannot either). So, the only way to be sure code is clean is to apply the sledgehammer: -Wall -Werror. -- Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages. Local Variables: mode:claws-external End: From gour at atmarama.net Tue Aug 26 12:11:04 2014 From: gour at atmarama.net (Gour) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 12:11:04 +0200 Subject: [Users] mail archiver - best practices References: <20140825170335.149940e2@atmarama.ddns.net> <20140825172114.6e8e43c3@sleipner.datanom.net> <20140825191622.796eac73@atmarama.ddns.net> <20140825193647.27e6eb17@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20140826121104.3c1af09b@atmarama.ddns.net> On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 19:36:47 +0200 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > tar tz |egrep 'posix_regex' > > The above will generate a list of file names and provided you have > used option rename you should be able to find what you are looking > for. Ahh, forgot about it. Now I see it's nice job for Ag. However, I do not need the list, but the content, so arrived at: tar -O -xzf tarball.tar.gz | ag 'pattern' However I notice that if I use Craotian chars (č,ć,đ,š,ž) in the pattern, they can't be found. The reason is that if I'm searching for e.g. 'fax', in the result I get filenames with the name as 'fax_uređaj', but in the content the same is encoded as 'fax_ure=C4=91aj', so I wonder why the content of the email messages does not show/render proper characters, while the same are rendered/shown properly for the filenames contained within the tarball.tar.gz? Sincerely, Gour -- Whenever and wherever there is a decline in religious practice, O descendant of Bharata, and a predominant rise of irreligion — at that time I descend Myself. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ricardo at mones.org Tue Aug 26 13:22:07 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 13:22:07 +0200 Subject: [Users] How to compile claws on Debian Wheezy? In-Reply-To: <20140825183407.45e19976@mydesq2.domain.cxm> References: <20140825183407.45e19976@mydesq2.domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20140826112207.GI17556@trasgu> Hi Steve, On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 06:34:07PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > On Debian Wheezy, Claws-Mail *appears to* make my mouse pointer twitchy > and makes it disappear when a popup message appears. This always > happens after I've run Claws, downloaded mail, clicked on a message, > and mouse-hovered over a message in the message list. The only way to > (temporarily) make it go away is to restart X and not run Claws. Less drastic measures, like setting the cursor with xsetroot -xcf option, does not restore it? > Do you think it will be a problem compiling the latest and greatest > Claws-Mail, which I guess right now is 3.10.1, on Debian Wheezy 64 bit > with 16GB RAM? Nope (and you don't really need that amount of memory to build it, 512 MB is just as fine as that :) > Does anyone have anything to add to the INSTALL file > that's in the tarball? If I ./configure it so that it's installed under > my home directory instead of /usr/local or wherever, can I run it in > parallel with the Wheezy packaged version (3.8.1)? It will modify your rc files to add new options not present in 3.8.1, but that should be harmless to 3.8.1 (anyway: backup first) > And most important, does anyone have any ideas of compile options I can > enable, or more likely disable, in order that Claws has no effect on > the mouse pointer? AFAIK all pointer handling is made through gdk_window_set_cursor, from GTK's GDK library. So unless you change your GTK library, nothing to tune there... -- Ricardo Mones ~ The three principal virtues of a programmer are Laziness, Impatience, and Hubris. man perl -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Aug 26 13:34:09 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 11:34:09 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3259] New: Add a way to open attachments while composing a message Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3259 Bug ID: 3259 Summary: Add a way to open attachments while composing a message Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: Other Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: klaus.kusche at computerix.info Could you please add some way to open attachments in the mail composition window? It would be nice to be able to check the contents of attachments, to verify that the correct file in the correct version has been included, and to avoid problems like "I've hit 'send' in the mail before clicking 'save' in libreoffice". -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From info at endeavor-networks.com Tue Aug 26 16:53:38 2014 From: info at endeavor-networks.com (ENI) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 10:53:38 -0400 Subject: [Users] POP3S - SSL Handshake Failures. Message-ID: <20140826105338.00006a7f.info@endeavor-networks.com> Background We've been using Claws Mail (Win32) to reliably send/receive mail for ~2 years. Two weeks ago (8/17), the server-side certificate used for POP3S and SMTP (STARTTLS) expired. We believe Claws Mail (CM) successfully stored the new certificate for both functions, as we were able to send/receive securely thereafter. Although, we did see the signature status change from “Correct”, to “No certificate issuer found”. The POP3S server certificate has since been deleted from the “Saved SSL Certificates” list during our investigation of the following issue. We're not sure if it is relevant, but thought it best to disclose recent events. Issue - SSL Handshake Failures On the evening of 8/23, we were able to retrieve mail via POP3s. On the morning of 8/24 we were not. We are experiencing SSL handshake failures. A Wireshark capture shows the server responding to the SSLv3 Client Hello, with a Fatal SSLv3 Record Layer Alert (Handshake Failure). Claws Mail 3.10.1 (Win32), indicates the following in it's Network Log: * Account '': Connecting to POP3 server: :995... *** SSL handshake failed Thunderbird 31.0 succeeds with a TLSv1.2 handshake, whereas CM fails with a SSLv3 handshake (per Wireshark capture). The cypher suite negotiated (TLS RSA with AES 256 CBC SHA) in the Thunderbird session, is supported by CM. Thunderbird: POP3 Mail Server Settings | Security Settings | Connection Security | SSL/TLS (selected) CM: SSL | POP3 | Use SSL for POP3 connection (selected) CM: SSL | Send (SMTP) | Use STARTTLS command to start SSL session (selected) We have three Win XP3 systems configured with CM. There have been no recent config changes to CM. Each send via SMTP (STARTTLS) successfully, but each are experiencing POP3S SSL handshake failures. During our diagnostic efforts, the POP3S server certificate was deleted in CM, with the expectation that it would be presented again during the next session setup, but the SSL handshake fails before that can occur. We've submitted a ticket to our service provider, and are trying to determine whether there have been any changes on the server side that would cause the recent SSLv3 handshake failures. We are inclined to think that they may point to CM, as Thunderbird succeeds (via TLSv1.2). Any thoughts on how we can diagnose the situation further on our end? Best Regards, ENI From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Aug 26 17:21:08 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 15:21:08 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 1670] Punycode not implemented (internationalized domain name - IDN) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1670 Ricardo Mones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- URL| |http://bugs.debian.org/7592 | |83 Summary|Punycode not implemented |Punycode not implemented | |(internationalized domain | |name - IDN) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From itz at buug.org Wed Aug 27 05:23:33 2014 From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 20:23:33 -0700 Subject: [Users] What do menu items under View|Character encoding do, precisely? Message-ID: <20140826202333.10835436.itz@buug.org> I have gotten myself into a nascent flame war [1], so I better have my facts straight. What happens when I select View|Character encoding|Unicode and I then read a message with Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 ? Is UTF-8 just a default/fallback, or does it override the information from the header? If it is just a fallback, what does Automatic do? If it does override, is there any way to configure a fallback? [1] http://narkive.com/EqYk4A5E -- Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages. Local Variables: mode:claws-external End: From info at endeavor-networks.com Thu Aug 28 07:31:53 2014 From: info at endeavor-networks.com (ENI) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 01:31:53 -0400 Subject: [Users] POP3S - SSL Handshake Failures (Repost). Message-ID: <20140828013153.00002937.info@endeavor-networks.com> Please excuse the repost. We received numerous DMARC reports indicating that our initial post was not being forwarded, due to our DMARC implementation not accommodating list distribution. Background We've been using Claws Mail (Win32) to reliably send/receive mail for ~2 years. Two weeks ago (8/17), the server-side certificate used for POP3S and SMTP (STARTTLS) expired. We believe Claws Mail (CM) successfully stored the new certificate for both functions, as we were able to send/receive securely thereafter. Although, we did see the signature status change from “Correct”, to “No certificate issuer found”. The POP3S server certificate has since been deleted from the “Saved SSL Certificates” list during our investigation of the following issue. We're not sure if it is relevant, but thought it best to disclose recent events. Issue - SSL Handshake Failures On the evening of 8/23, we were able to retrieve mail via POP3s. On the morning of 8/24 we were not. We are experiencing SSL handshake failures. A Wireshark capture shows the server responding to the SSLv3 Client Hello, with a Fatal SSLv3 Record Layer Alert (Handshake Failure). Claws Mail 3.10.1 (Win32), indicates the following in it's Network Log: * Account '': Connecting to POP3 server: :995... *** SSL handshake failed Thunderbird 31.0 succeeds with a TLSv1.2 handshake, whereas CM fails with a SSLv3 handshake (per Wireshark capture). The cypher suite negotiated (TLS RSA with AES 256 CBC SHA) in the Thunderbird session, is supported by CM. Thunderbird: POP3 Mail Server Settings | Security Settings | Connection Security | SSL/TLS (selected) CM: SSL | POP3 | Use SSL for POP3 connection (selected) CM: SSL | Send (SMTP) | Use STARTTLS command to start SSL session (selected) We have three Win XP3 systems configured with CM. There have been no recent config changes to CM. Each send via SMTP (STARTTLS) successfully, but each are experiencing POP3S SSL handshake failures. During our diagnostic efforts, the POP3S server certificate was deleted in CM, with the expectation that it would be presented again during the next session setup, but the SSL handshake fails before that can occur. We've submitted a ticket to our service provider, and are trying to determine whether there have been any changes on the server side that would cause the recent SSLv3 handshake failures. We are inclined to think that they may point to CM, as Thunderbird succeeds (via TLSv1.2). Any thoughts on how we can diagnose the situation further on our end? Best Regards, ENI From senex at drofle.co.uk Thu Aug 28 09:56:39 2014 From: senex at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:56:39 +0100 Subject: [Users] Junk Meil and Bogofilter Message-ID: <20140828085639.19eec505@Willow> I am getting more and more rubbish emails recently. I have set up Bogofilter and I keep marking this trash as spam. Now, am I missing something here? I thought the idea was that any emails previously marked as spam would henceforth be automatically put into the junk folder. Have I got that wrong somewhere? It doesn't seem to be happening here. This stuff still appears in my inboxes. Or should I be using spamassassin? Thanks for any help, Neil From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Aug 28 10:10:21 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:10:21 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3260] New: convert content to make it searchable Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3260 Bug ID: 3260 Summary: convert content to make it searchable Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.10.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: Plugins/Archiver Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: gour at atmarama.net Hello, while playing with the Archiver plugin, I noticed that I can not search tarball arhives for the content written in my native (Croatian) language. Soon, I've 'discovered' that all the messages in Claws (both under IMAP and MH folders) are stored as 'ASCII text' filetype with the 'text/plain; charset=UTF-8' Content-Type header and therefore after I select some folder to archive it as *.tar.gz, it is not searchable for the content containing native (Croatian) characters (eg. č,ć,đ,š,ž). In other words when I try: tar -O -xf folder.tar.gz | ag 'somecontent' I get result only for 'somecontent' not containg native chars *or* containing native chars in the Subject. So, in the same way as the Subject of the message file is properly encoded, I'd like if the Archiver plugin could, somehow, encode the content itself according to the charset contained in the message itself? Otherwise, the plugin is usable only for searching archives with the plain ASCII text. Of course, Claws has powerful searching capabilites, so I'd like to have similar features available for my archived content which can make Claws more speedy by not keeping old mail eternally. :-) Sincerely, Gour -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From brad at fineby.me.uk Thu Aug 28 10:28:38 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 09:28:38 +0100 Subject: [Users] Junk Meil and Bogofilter In-Reply-To: <20140828085639.19eec505@Willow> References: <20140828085639.19eec505@Willow> Message-ID: <20140828092838.4b90ca7d@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:56:39 +0100 Neil Winchurst wrote: Hello Neil, >I am getting more and more rubbish emails recently. I have set up >Bogofilter and I keep marking this trash as spam. Now, am I missing How many, approximately, messages have you marked as spam? Ten? Twenty? Also, have you taught bogofilter any ham? A realistic minimum for ham is 100. Pretty much the same for spam. >something here? I thought the idea was that any emails previously >marked as spam would henceforth be automatically put into the junk >folder. Have I got that wrong somewhere? It doesn't seem to be It should be, *if* it's detected as such, /and/ you've configured the bogofilter plugin correctly. Fighting spam is an ongoing process. Like anti-virus programmers, the anti-spam software writers are always (and only) playing catch-up; As soon as anti-spam software learns to deal with one type of spam, the spammers come up with new types to get around previous methods for stopping it. The short version is; It's going to take time for bogofilter to learn what is and isn't spam to you. Even then, you're still going to be hitting those "Learn as ham/spam" buttons on an almost daily basis, no matter what spam catcher you use. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Never much liked playing there anyway Banned From The Roxy - Crass -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 473 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From gheskett at wdtv.com Thu Aug 28 10:52:33 2014 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 04:52:33 -0400 Subject: [Users] Junk Meil and Bogofilter In-Reply-To: <20140828085639.19eec505@Willow> References: <20140828085639.19eec505@Willow> Message-ID: <201408280452.33913.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Thursday 28 August 2014 03:56:39 Neil Winchurst did opine And Gene did reply: > I am getting more and more rubbish emails recently. I have set up > Bogofilter and I keep marking this trash as spam. Now, am I missing > something here? I thought the idea was that any emails previously > marked as spam would henceforth be automatically put into the junk > folder. Have I got that wrong somewhere? It doesn't seem to be > happening here. This stuff still appears in my inboxes. > > Or should I be using spamassassin? > > Thanks for any help, > > Neil All Bayesian filters need trained, and spamassassin is just the most popular. It does no filtering at all until it has looked at a large but non-spam (in your opinion) database of emails, and an equally large number of what you determine is spam. SA installs some scripts to facilitate doing that. But even so it may take your conscious moving of an unwanted message into the spam maildir, when a cron driven daily session of sa-learn --ham or --spam directory-to- inspect might take 20 or more such unwanted messages to build up the opinion that hey, this stuff is spam. In my own script, I clean out the spam directory each time it is run, but leave the ham so I can move it back to the desired folder it belongs in. Everyone has their favorite methods. I also run a pre-fetch session of mailfilter, which can inspect the headers of a message sitting in your ISP's mailbox, and it it hits an undesired address, will delete that email so that the following session of fetchmail won't pull it, but after 5000 or so entries in its database, I have discovered there is no way to keep ahead of the Dr. Oz spam, his botnet uses a different set of relays about every 3 days. He must have 50,000 or more machines at his disposal. > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Aug 28 11:20:31 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 10:20:31 +0100 Subject: [Users] POP3S - SSL Handshake Failures. In-Reply-To: <20140826105338.00006a7f.info@endeavor-networks.com> References: <20140826105338.00006a7f.info@endeavor-networks.com> Message-ID: <20140828102031.3bd1dacf@thewildbeast> On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 10:53:38 -0400 ENI wrote: > Any thoughts on how we can diagnose the situation further on our > end? Use the hidden account prefs to specify manually the priority string used. Quit Claws, open ~/.claws-mail/accountrc, find your account block, set 'gnutls_set_priority' to 1, and put your priority string in 'gnutls_priority'. You could use the gnuTLS command line program to investigate this first. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Aug 28 11:38:19 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 10:38:19 +0100 Subject: [Users] What do menu items under View|Character encoding do, precisely? In-Reply-To: <20140826202333.10835436.itz@buug.org> References: <20140826202333.10835436.itz@buug.org> Message-ID: <20140828103819.5fa28a1b@thewildbeast> On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 20:23:33 -0700 Ian Zimmerman wrote: > What happens when I select View|Character encoding|Unicode and I > then read a message with Content-Type: > text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 ? It uses the character encoding that you choose. > Is UTF-8 just a default/fallback, or does it override the > information from the header? It overrides it. > If it is just a fallback, what does Automatic do? Automatic uses the character encoding specified in the message. > If it does override, is there any way to configure a > fallback? Set the hidden option 'utf8_instead_of_locale_for_broken_mail'. with regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Aug 28 12:03:29 2014 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 11:03:29 +0100 Subject: [Users] POP3S - SSL Handshake Failures. In-Reply-To: <20140826105338.00006a7f.info@endeavor-networks.com> References: <20140826105338.00006a7f.info@endeavor-networks.com> Message-ID: <20140828110329.2e9b7d6f@thewildbeast> The last commit in Claws Mail GIT repository might resolve your issue. regards Paul -- Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières From himemsys36 at hotmail.com Thu Aug 28 13:27:09 2014 From: himemsys36 at hotmail.com (Tim Zakharov) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 06:27:09 -0500 Subject: [Users] Junk Meil and Bogofilter In-Reply-To: <20140828085639.19eec505@Willow> References: <20140828085639.19eec505@Willow> Message-ID: On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:56:39 +0100 Neil Winchurst wrote: > I am getting more and more rubbish emails recently. I have set up > Bogofilter and I keep marking this trash as spam. Now, am I missing > something here? I thought the idea was that any emails previously > marked as spam would henceforth be automatically put into the junk > folder. Have I got that wrong somewhere? It doesn't seem to be > happening here. This stuff still appears in my inboxes. > > Or should I be using spamassassin? > > Thanks for any help, > > Neil Hi Neil, I had the same issue when I started using Bogo. But I actually started with SpamAssassin. SA was taking about 15 seconds to scan every email that came into CM, and used more memory and resources than I expected, so I uninstalled it and moved to Bogo. It did take awhile for Bogo to start detecting spam for me too. Because my email volume is not high, it took even longer to see results. Two things you can do to help: 1) In Configuration-Preferences-Plugins-Bogofilter, place a check box in both 'Save spam in' and 'When unsure, move to' boxes and provide a folder (maybe even the same folder) 2) In the same window, place a check in the Insert X-Bogosity-Header box. Now when you see a missed spam, check the headers to see how close to 1 the Bogosity score for that spam is. You will see progress here, even if the spam still ends up in your inbox. This is more to encourage you to keep marking your emails for BOTH spam and ham. Eventually, if you diligently marek both spam and ham emails, Bogo will start working for you. Best of luck, Tim From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Thu Aug 28 13:54:07 2014 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 07:54:07 -0400 Subject: [Users] Junk Meil and Bogofilter In-Reply-To: References: <20140828085639.19eec505@Willow> Message-ID: <20140828075407.5e8934ec@ron.cerrocora.org> On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 06:27:09 -0500 Tim Zakharov wrote: > Hi Neil, I had the same issue when I started using Bogo Do you mean the Bogofilter add-on/plug-in ? Cheers, Ron. -- It's not the fall that kills you, it's the landing. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From himemsys36 at hotmail.com Thu Aug 28 14:09:18 2014 From: himemsys36 at hotmail.com (Tim Zakharov) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 07:09:18 -0500 Subject: [Users] Junk Meil and Bogofilter In-Reply-To: <20140828075407.5e8934ec@ron.cerrocora.org> References: <20140828085639.19eec505@Willow> <20140828075407.5e8934ec@ron.cerrocora.org> Message-ID: On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 07:54:07 -0400 "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" wrote: > On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 06:27:09 -0500 > Tim Zakharov wrote: > > > Hi Neil, I had the same issue when I started using Bogo > > Do you mean the Bogofilter add-on/plug-in ? > > Cheers, > > Ron. I was hoping not to have to type out "Bogofilter add-on/plug-in" since the subject of the thread was obvious. From senex at drofle.co.uk Thu Aug 28 14:15:12 2014 From: senex at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:15:12 +0100 Subject: [Users] Junk Meil and Bogofilter In-Reply-To: <20140828075407.5e8934ec@ron.cerrocora.org> References: <20140828085639.19eec505@Willow> <20140828075407.5e8934ec@ron.cerrocora.org> Message-ID: <20140828131512.26c847c6@Willow> On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 07:54:07 -0400 "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" wrote: > On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 06:27:09 -0500 > Tim Zakharov wrote: > > > Hi Neil, I had the same issue when I started using Bogo > > Do you mean the Bogofilter add-on/plug-in ? > > Cheers, > > Ron. Yes. I have had it in use for some time now. So far most of the spam still goes to the inbox, then I click on the Spam button and it moves to the junk folder. Next time it still appears in the inbox, so I mark it again. Neil From senex at drofle.co.uk Thu Aug 28 14:17:59 2014 From: senex at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:17:59 +0100 Subject: [Users] Junk Meil and Bogofilter In-Reply-To: <20140828092838.4b90ca7d@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20140828085639.19eec505@Willow> <20140828092838.4b90ca7d@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140828131759.7955056c@Willow> On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 09:28:38 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:56:39 +0100 > Neil Winchurst wrote: > > Hello Neil, > > >I am getting more and more rubbish emails recently. I have set up > >Bogofilter and I keep marking this trash as spam. Now, am I missing > > How many, approximately, messages have you marked as spam? Ten? > Twenty? Also, have you taught bogofilter any ham? A realistic > minimum for ham is 100. Pretty much the same for spam. > > >something here? I thought the idea was that any emails previously > >marked as spam would henceforth be automatically put into the junk > >folder. Have I got that wrong somewhere? It doesn't seem to be > > It should be, *if* it's detected as such, /and/ you've configured the > bogofilter plugin correctly. > > Fighting spam is an ongoing process. Like anti-virus programmers, the > anti-spam software writers are always (and only) playing catch-up; As > soon as anti-spam software learns to deal with one type of spam, the > spammers come up with new types to get around previous methods for > stopping it. > > The short version is; It's going to take time for bogofilter to learn > what is and isn't spam to you. Even then, you're still going to be > hitting those "Learn as ham/spam" buttons on an almost daily basis, no > matter what spam catcher you use. > Thanks for that. Sigh, just will have to keep on at it then. Neil From himemsys36 at hotmail.com Thu Aug 28 14:23:57 2014 From: himemsys36 at hotmail.com (Tim Zakharov) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 07:23:57 -0500 Subject: [Users] Junk Meil and Bogofilter In-Reply-To: <20140828131512.26c847c6@Willow> References: <20140828085639.19eec505@Willow> <20140828075407.5e8934ec@ron.cerrocora.org> <20140828131512.26c847c6@Willow> Message-ID: On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:15:12 +0100 Neil Winchurst wrote: > On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 07:54:07 -0400 > "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" wrote: > > > On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 06:27:09 -0500 > > Tim Zakharov wrote: > > > > > Hi Neil, I had the same issue when I started using Bogo > > > > Do you mean the Bogofilter add-on/plug-in ? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Ron. > > Yes. I have had it in use for some time now. So far most of the spam > still goes to the inbox, then I click on the Spam button and it moves > to the junk folder. Next time it still appears in the inbox, so I mark > it again. > > Neil Please re-read my first post and make the changes I suggested, so you can at least track Bogofilter's learning (by keeping an eye on the X-Bogosity score in the headers of each missed spam). If you can confirm Bogosity scores are creeping up, then you know it is (maybe too slowly) learning. And please mark your legitimate emails as ham too. That helps Bogofilter as much as marking spam. From brad at fineby.me.uk Thu Aug 28 14:40:48 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:40:48 +0100 Subject: [Users] Junk Meil and Bogofilter In-Reply-To: References: <20140828085639.19eec505@Willow> <20140828075407.5e8934ec@ron.cerrocora.org> <20140828131512.26c847c6@Willow> Message-ID: <20140828134048.07d8ca97@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 07:23:57 -0500 Tim Zakharov wrote: Hello Neil, >slowly) learning. And please mark your legitimate emails as ham too. >That helps Bogofilter as much as marking spam. This part should be easier to do; Hopefully you've got several folders with ham messages in; mailing lists, club news letters, archived mail from Aunt Bessie... You get the idea. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" You suck my blood like a leech Death On Two Legs - Queen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 473 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From brad at fineby.me.uk Thu Aug 28 14:37:41 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:37:41 +0100 Subject: [Users] Junk Meil and Bogofilter In-Reply-To: <20140828131759.7955056c@Willow> References: <20140828085639.19eec505@Willow> <20140828092838.4b90ca7d@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140828131759.7955056c@Willow> Message-ID: <20140828133741.1d729f91@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:17:59 +0100 Neil Winchurst wrote: Hello Neil, >Thanks for that. Sigh, just will have to keep on at it then. NP. Things *do* get better once you've trained bogo (and/or SA) for a while. And, just when you're happy with the way things are, the spammers move on to their new found techniques. Sod's Law, I'm afraid. :-( -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Junk floats on polluted water Hong Kong Garden - Siouxsie & The Banshees -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 473 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Thu Aug 28 14:54:20 2014 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:54:20 -0400 Subject: [Users] Junk Meil and Bogofilter In-Reply-To: <20140828134048.07d8ca97@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20140828085639.19eec505@Willow> <20140828075407.5e8934ec@ron.cerrocora.org> <20140828131512.26c847c6@Willow> <20140828134048.07d8ca97@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140828085420.375be812@ron.cerrocora.org> On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:40:48 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: > >slowly) learning. And please mark your legitimate emails as ham too. > >That helps Bogofilter as much as marking spam. > This part should be easier to do; Hopefully you've got several folders > with ham messages in; mailing lists, club news letters, archived mail > from Aunt Bessie... To hasten the process, I have asked friends on two mailing lists to forward to me any spam they receive between today and next Sunday. Maybe a corpus of such concentrated spam should be kept in the list archives at claws-mail.org. Cheers, Ron. -- Politicians should all be jailed immediately after election; it saves time and money in the long run. -- Terry Pratchett -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From brad at fineby.me.uk Thu Aug 28 15:28:08 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 14:28:08 +0100 Subject: [Users] Junk Meil and Bogofilter In-Reply-To: <20140828085420.375be812@ron.cerrocora.org> References: <20140828085639.19eec505@Willow> <20140828075407.5e8934ec@ron.cerrocora.org> <20140828131512.26c847c6@Willow> <20140828134048.07d8ca97@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140828085420.375be812@ron.cerrocora.org> Message-ID: <20140828142808.5e6b981d@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:54:20 -0400 "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" wrote: Hello Renaud, >To hasten the process, I have asked friends on two mailing lists to >forward to me any spam they receive between today and next Sunday. Interesting; Spam being of use, for once. :-) >Maybe a corpus of such concentrated spam should be kept in the list >archives at claws-mail.org. IDK - As I've said elsewhere in this thread, spam goes 'stale' after a while. In any case, using your method above, there's probably no need. Another option would be to turn off _all_ spam filtering at your mail provider's server, if that's possible (it isn't often). It's quite likely to open up the floodgates, though. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Where will you be when the bodies burn? The Gasman Cometh - Crass -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 473 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Aug 28 18:21:59 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:21:59 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3260] convert content to make it searchable In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3260 --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones --- I think you only need to add to the pipe some MIME-decoding utility (like mailtextbody¹) between the tar command and the grep one. Of course that doesn't invalidate the request for a search utility within the plugin, and may be the plugin could just use this or a similar external tool :) ¹ https://packages.debian.org/sid/mailtextbody -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From ricardo at mones.org Thu Aug 28 18:28:10 2014 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:28:10 +0200 Subject: [Users] POP3S - SSL Handshake Failures (Repost). In-Reply-To: <20140828013153.00002937.info@endeavor-networks.com> References: <20140828013153.00002937.info@endeavor-networks.com> Message-ID: <20140828162810.GA14984@trasgu> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 01:31:53AM -0400, ENI wrote: > Please excuse the repost. We received numerous DMARC reports indicating > that our initial post was not being forwarded, due to our DMARC > implementation not accommodating list distribution. […] It ended in spam folder (in my case) but has been answered by Paul twice. Please check your Inbox and continue there :) Regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ Quantity derives from measurement, figures from quantities, comparisons from figures, and victories from comparisons. Sun Tzu -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Aug 28 19:04:41 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 17:04:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3261] New: Deleting a message while it's downloaded causes a segfault Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3261 Bug ID: 3261 Summary: Deleting a message while it's downloaded causes a segfault Classification: Unclassified Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.8.1 Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Message List Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org Reporter: clawsmail at tim.thechases.com I've tried several versions but am reporting on what I've got on this machine (Debian Stable's default). I was able to trigger it recently on FreeBSD10 which should have a fairly recent version (I've since reformatted that box). The following steps reproduce the issue fairly reliably: 1) I've just received new mail (happens to be an IMAP account< 2) I select the new-mail in the message-list window 3) WHILE THE MESSAGE IS STILL DOWNLOADING, I hit the Delete key (or "=" which runs my processing rules, and a deleting-rule gets triggered for the still-downloading message) Claws segfaults. Observations: - it seems to happen most frequently with larger messages (multiple attachments, etc). There seems to be some race-condition between where the headers get downloaded and the body gets downloaded for display. - it doesn't seem to happen nearly as frequently if I use control+D (which I have mapped to delete as well) instead of the Delete key. - it may also have something to do with writing back the "this message has been read" status when I jump to the message. I've not been able to track down where in the "new mail -> select the message -> download the body -> display the message in the view window -> mark it read" process that the segfault gets triggered other than that it's after I've selected an unread+uncached message. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Aug 28 19:06:26 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 17:06:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3261] Deleting a message while it's downloaded causes a segfault In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3261 --- Comment #1 from Gumnos --- For what it's worth, it's much easier to reproduce on a slow network IMAP/IMAPS connection. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Aug 28 19:19:08 2014 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 17:19:08 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 3261] Deleting a message while it's downloaded causes a segfault In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3261 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME --- Comment #2 from Paul --- I cannot reproduce this crash using version 3.10.1. 3.8.1 is old, (released over 2 years ago), and much has changed. Re-open this if you can reproduce the crash with the latest release. Thanks. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. From senex at drofle.co.uk Thu Aug 28 19:45:18 2014 From: senex at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:45:18 +0100 Subject: [Users] Junk Meil and Bogofilter In-Reply-To: References: <20140828085639.19eec505@Willow> <20140828075407.5e8934ec@ron.cerrocora.org> <20140828131512.26c847c6@Willow> Message-ID: <20140828184518.185850d2@Willow> On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 07:23:57 -0500 Tim Zakharov wrote: > On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:15:12 +0100 > Neil Winchurst wrote: > > > On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 07:54:07 -0400 > > "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 06:27:09 -0500 > > > Tim Zakharov wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Neil, I had the same issue when I started using Bogo > > > > > > Do you mean the Bogofilter add-on/plug-in ? > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Ron. > > > > Yes. I have had it in use for some time now. So far most of the spam > > still goes to the inbox, then I click on the Spam button and it > > moves to the junk folder. Next time it still appears in the inbox, > > so I mark it again. > > > > Neil > > Please re-read my first post and make the changes I suggested, so you > can at least track Bogofilter's learning (by keeping an eye on the > X-Bogosity score in the headers of each missed spam). If you can > confirm Bogosity scores are creeping up, then you know it is (maybe > too slowly) learning. And please mark your legitimate emails as ham > too. That helps Bogofilter as much as marking spam. > _______________________________________________ I have made the changes you suggested. And thanks for your last comment. I have been carefully marking the rubbish as spam, I did not realise it was useful to mark legitimate emails as ham. I will start to do that. I have always just marked for spam in the past. Learn something every day, Neil From senex at drofle.co.uk Thu Aug 28 19:47:38 2014 From: senex at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:47:38 +0100 Subject: [Users] Junk Meil and Bogofilter In-Reply-To: <20140828134048.07d8ca97@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20140828085639.19eec505@Willow> <20140828075407.5e8934ec@ron.cerrocora.org> <20140828131512.26c847c6@Willow> <20140828134048.07d8ca97@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140828184738.21b30363@Willow> On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:40:48 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 07:23:57 -0500 > Tim Zakharov wrote: > > Hello Neil, > > >slowly) learning. And please mark your legitimate emails as ham too. > >That helps Bogofilter as much as marking spam. > > This part should be easier to do; Hopefully you've got several > folders with ham messages in; mailing lists, club news letters, > archived mail from Aunt Bessie... > > You get the idea. > Yes indeed. I have never understood that part before. I do have several folders, so it will take me some time to get it all working. It would seem that part of the problem is that I have only ever marked for spam. Thanks Neil From senex at drofle.co.uk Thu Aug 28 19:49:13 2014 From: senex at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:49:13 +0100 Subject: [Users] Junk Meil and Bogofilter In-Reply-To: <20140828133741.1d729f91@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20140828085639.19eec505@Willow> <20140828092838.4b90ca7d@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140828131759.7955056c@Willow> <20140828133741.1d729f91@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20140828184913.573bf608@Willow> On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:37:41 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:17:59 +0100 > Neil Winchurst wrote: > > Hello Neil, > > >Thanks for that. Sigh, just will have to keep on at it then. > > NP. Things *do* get better once you've trained bogo (and/or SA) for a > while. And, just when you're happy with the way things are, the > spammers move on to their new found techniques. > > Sod's Law, I'm afraid. :-( > You really know how to cheer me up!!!! Neil From slitt at troubleshooters.com Thu Aug 28 19:58:29 2014 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:58:29 -0400 Subject: [Users] How to compile claws on Debian Wheezy? In-Reply-To: <20140826080122.3c0b4550@thewildbeast> References: <20140825183407.45e19976@mydesq2.domain.cxm> <20140826080122.3c0b4550@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20140828135829.7d2a3941@mydesq2.domain.cxm> On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 08:01:22 +0100 Paul wrote: > It can't be Claws Mail causing that, but it could be one of the > libraries on which it depends. This distinction is kind of moot. The point is, I can run for hours or maybe days without this symptom (cursor disappears when a popup occurs), as long as I don't run Claws-Mail. 95% of the time, the second I click my inbox and put in my password within Claws-Mail, this symptom appears on every GUI program, until I kill and restart X. Inkscape is impossible to be productive with when this symptom occurs. So bottom line, Claws and Inkscape are mutually exclusive within a single X session. I compiled (./configure;make;make install) 3.10.1 using the instructions, and it displays the same symptom, just like the older Claws from the Debian distribution. When time permits, I'm going to remove my entire ~/.claws-mail directory, and reconfigure from scratch. Perhaps I'll find a config option that toggles this symptom. If not, I have some choices to make. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance From brad at fineby.me.uk Thu Aug 28 20:05:35 2014 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 19:05:35 +0100 Subject: [Users] Junk Meil and Bogofilter In-Reply-To: <20140828184913.573bf608@Willow> References: <20140828085639.19eec505@Willow> <20140828092838.4b90ca7d@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140828131759.7955056c@Willow> <20140828133741.1d729f91@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20140828184913.573bf608@Willow> Message-ID: <20140828190535.517cf055@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:49:13 +0100 Neil Winchurst wrote: Hello Neil, >You really know how to cheer me up!!!! Would you rather I lied? :-) -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" You never listen to a word that I said Public Image - Public Image Ltd -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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