From pf at pfortin.com  Sun Sep  1 01:27:45 2013
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 19:27:45 -0400
Subject: [Users] Periodic "connection failed"
In-Reply-To: <20130831213755.439a015f@thewildbeast>
References: <20130829153018.GR30046@histomat.net>
	<20130829181050.338bfc75@pfortin.com>
	<20130830171838.GT30046@histomat.net>
	<20130830173822.528a435c@pfortin.com>
	<20130831115020.GU30046@histomat.net>
	<20130831114026.6935d813@pfortin.com>
	<20130831163200.GV30046@histomat.net>
	<20130831213755.439a015f@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20130831192745.1e47aa7d@pfortin.com>

On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 21:37:55 +0100 Paul wrote:

>errr.... off topic.

I know, already took it off list...


From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Sun Sep  1 03:51:06 2013
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 21:51:06 -0400
Subject: [Users] Request for enhancement - resize windows gadget
In-Reply-To: <20130831205322.6af998bd@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20130831202405.7298dc8d@london>
	<20130831205322.6af998bd@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20130831215106.023d4d75@mydesk>

On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 20:53:22 +0100
Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 20:24:05 +0100
> Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello Sharon,
> 
> >I'm not sure where this should go, but I'm making a request for
> >enhancement in that I'd like claws-mail to be built with that little
> >thingie on the bottom right corner which makes it easier to resize
> >the window using a mouse. This could benefit everyone who needs to
> >resize the window  by making it easier to do.
> 
> I can do that already.  Maybe it's a WM/DE thing.  Using KDE here.

Ah yes, Krash, Delay, Expand.

http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/201202/201202.htm#_Steve_You_Sound_Angry

I think the OP was asking for a WM independent facility for doing this.
Maybe it's too difficult or there's some other problem, but I think she
should get a hearing on her request.

SteveT

Steve Litt                *  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance


From itz at buug.org  Sun Sep  1 04:01:19 2013
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 19:01:19 -0700
Subject: [Users] Request for enhancement - resize windows gadget
In-Reply-To: <20130831215106.023d4d75@mydesk>
References: <20130831202405.7298dc8d@london>
	<20130831205322.6af998bd@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130831215106.023d4d75@mydesk>
Message-ID: <20130831190119.2bb45e25.itz@buug.org>

On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 21:51:06 -0400
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

Steve> I think the OP was asking for a WM independent facility for doing
Steve> this. Maybe it's too difficult or there's some other problem, but
Steve> I think she should get a hearing on her request.

So, if I use a reasonable windowing system which already has an
interface for this (ie. pretty much any window manager under X11 with
the right settings), I'll get an _extra_ widget inside Claws' client
area?  Please not.

I am not familiar with Fluxbox, but there must be a way for the OP to
get what she wants with a Fluxbox configuration setting.

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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Sun Sep  1 08:09:18 2013
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 02:09:18 -0400
Subject: [Users] Request for enhancement - resize windows gadget
In-Reply-To: <20130831190119.2bb45e25.itz@buug.org>
References: <20130831202405.7298dc8d@london>
	<20130831205322.6af998bd@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130831215106.023d4d75@mydesk>
	<20130831190119.2bb45e25.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20130901020918.19db32ab@mydesk>

On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 19:01:19 -0700
Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 21:51:06 -0400
> Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:
> 
> Steve> I think the OP was asking for a WM independent facility for
> Steve> doing this. Maybe it's too difficult or there's some other
> Steve> problem, but I think she should get a hearing on her request.
> 
> So, if I use a reasonable windowing system which already has an
> interface for this (ie. pretty much any window manager under X11 with
> the right settings), I'll get an _extra_ widget inside Claws' client
> area?  Please not.

The ones I've seen are a tiny triangle about 1/3 the size of the little
app icon on each window, so it's not like you'd be giving up appreciable
screen real estate. I think it's worth asking, and it makes more sense
than a lot of the enhancement requests I've seen on this list.

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt                *  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance


From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Sun Sep  1 08:13:00 2013
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 02:13:00 -0400
Subject: [Users] Request for enhancement - resize windows gadget
In-Reply-To: <20130831215106.023d4d75@mydesk>
References: <20130831202405.7298dc8d@london>
	<20130831205322.6af998bd@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130831215106.023d4d75@mydesk>
Message-ID: <20130901021300.43188175@mydesk>

On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 21:51:06 -0400
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 20:53:22 +0100
> Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 20:24:05 +0100
> > Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello Sharon,
> > 
> > >I'm not sure where this should go, but I'm making a request for
> > >enhancement in that I'd like claws-mail to be built with that
> > >little thingie on the bottom right corner which makes it easier to
> > >resize the window using a mouse. This could benefit everyone who
> > >needs to resize the window  by making it easier to do.
> > 
> > I can do that already.  Maybe it's a WM/DE thing.  Using KDE here.
> 
> Ah yes, Krash, Delay, Expand.
> 
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/201202/201202.htm#_Steve_You_Sound_Angry
> 
> I think the OP was asking for a WM independent facility for doing
> this. Maybe it's too difficult or there's some other problem, but I
> think she should get a hearing on her request.

Brad,

I apologize for reading your message too fast,misinterpreting it, and
replying to you in a snarky manner. What you were doing was giving the
OP some information which could be helpful in finding a solution. The
way I *interpreted* it was "hey, just use KDE like I do.", which was
not *at all* what you actually wrote.

I'm sorry.

SteveT

Steve Litt                *  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance


From boudiccas at talktalk.net  Sun Sep  1 08:47:27 2013
From: boudiccas at talktalk.net (Sharon Kimble)
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 07:47:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] Request for enhancement - resize windows gadget
In-Reply-To: <20130831205322.6af998bd@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20130831202405.7298dc8d@london>
	<20130831205322.6af998bd@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20130901074727.74ab2d5a@london>

On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 20:53:22 +0100
Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 20:24:05 +0100
> Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello Sharon,
> 
> >I'm not sure where this should go, but I'm making a request for
> >enhancement in that I'd like claws-mail to be built with that little
> >thingie on the bottom right corner which makes it easier to resize
> >the window using a mouse. This could benefit everyone who needs to
> >resize the window  by making it easier to do.
> 
> I can do that already.  Maybe it's a WM/DE thing.  Using KDE here.
> 
Well there’s nothing like it on fluxbox, hence my enhancement request.
Would you like a screenshot so you can see what I see?

Sharon.
-- 
A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk
efever = http://www.efever.blogspot.com/
efever = http://sharon04.livejournal.com/
Debian testing, Fluxbox 1.3.5, LibreOffice 4.1.0.4
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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sun Sep  1 08:43:18 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 07:43:18 +0100
Subject: [Users] Request for enhancement - resize windows gadget
In-Reply-To: <20130901021300.43188175@mydesk>
References: <20130831202405.7298dc8d@london>
	<20130831205322.6af998bd@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130831215106.023d4d75@mydesk> <20130901021300.43188175@mydesk>
Message-ID: <20130901074318.5595e737@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Sun, 1 Sep 2013 02:13:00 -0400
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

Hello Steve,

>I apologize for reading your message too fast,misinterpreting it, and
>replying to you in a snarky manner. What you were doing was giving the

I was a bit bemused by your response, I must admit.  I did have a look
at the URL you provided.  I can sympathise with that view.  I keep
seeing tales of woe WRT KMail.  I never used KMail 'in anger', even back
in KDE2 days.  It was nothing like I was used to (I used Thor on a
Commodore Amiga) and when happened across Sylpheed, then Claws, and have
never looked back.

>way I *interpreted* it was "hey, just use KDE like I do.", which was
>not *at all* what you actually wrote.

But an easy mistake to make.  I wrote my reply in a sort of 'shorthand',
leaving out stuff that makes for good grammar.  As such, my reply was
open to (mis)interpretation.

>I'm sorry.

Don't worry about it.  No offense was taken.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
It's cool to know nothin'
Never Miss A Beat - Kaiser Chiefs
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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sun Sep  1 09:30:57 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 08:30:57 +0100
Subject: [Users] Request for enhancement - resize windows gadget
In-Reply-To: <20130901074727.74ab2d5a@london>
References: <20130831202405.7298dc8d@london>
	<20130831205322.6af998bd@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130901074727.74ab2d5a@london>
Message-ID: <20130901083057.2cd412f5@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Sun, 1 Sep 2013 07:47:27 +0100
Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote:

Hello Sharon,

>Well there’s nothing like it on fluxbox, hence my enhancement request.

There's no gadget in KDE.  Whenever I hover the mouse pointer over an
edge, or corner, the pointer changes to a doubled-headed arrow
indicating which side(s) of the window can be resized.

>Would you like a screenshot so you can see what I see?

It wasn't necessary, but thanks.

I don't use FluxBox, I never have, but a quick internet search suggests
that 'ALT+Drag Right-click' anywhere on a window resizes the window
when using it.  This may not do quite what you're after, and certainly
isn't as elegant as using just the mouse to resize, but it might be a
starting point.  If it's not what you want, the best way to make a
feature request for a resize gadget would be to add a bug report with a
severity of "feature request" at
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/.  It's then up to the
dev team how to proceed.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
I'll be the paint on the side if you'll be the tin
Love Song - The Damned
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From boudiccas at talktalk.net  Sun Sep  1 09:42:32 2013
From: boudiccas at talktalk.net (Sharon Kimble)
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 08:42:32 +0100
Subject: [Users] SOLVED Re: Request for enhancement - resize windows gadget
In-Reply-To: <20130901083057.2cd412f5@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20130831202405.7298dc8d@london>
	<20130831205322.6af998bd@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130901074727.74ab2d5a@london>
	<20130901083057.2cd412f5@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20130901084232.7097dbf1@london>

On Sun, 1 Sep 2013 08:30:57 +0100
Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 1 Sep 2013 07:47:27 +0100
> Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello Sharon,
> 
> >Well there’s nothing like it on fluxbox, hence my enhancement
> >request.
> 
> There's no gadget in KDE.  Whenever I hover the mouse pointer over an
> edge, or corner, the pointer changes to a doubled-headed arrow
> indicating which side(s) of the window can be resized.
> 
> >Would you like a screenshot so you can see what I see?
> 
> It wasn't necessary, but thanks.
> 
> I don't use FluxBox, I never have, but a quick internet search
> suggests that 'ALT+Drag Right-click' anywhere on a window resizes the
> window when using it.  This may not do quite what you're after, and
> certainly isn't as elegant as using just the mouse to resize, but it
> might be a starting point.  If it's not what you want, the best way
> to make a feature request for a resize gadget would be to add a bug
> report with a severity of "feature request" at
> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/.  It's then up to
> the dev team how to proceed.
> 
Well blow me down with a feather duster! That 'ALT+Drag Right-click'
works beautifully and solves the problem very simply, thank you for
it. Problem solved :)

Sharon.
-- 
A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk
efever = http://www.efever.blogspot.com/
efever = http://sharon04.livejournal.com/
Debian testing, Fluxbox 1.3.5, LibreOffice 4.1.0.4
Registered Linux user 334501 
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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sun Sep  1 09:49:54 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 08:49:54 +0100
Subject: [Users] SOLVED Re: Request for enhancement - resize windows
 gadget
In-Reply-To: <20130901084232.7097dbf1@london>
References: <20130831202405.7298dc8d@london>
	<20130831205322.6af998bd@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130901074727.74ab2d5a@london>
	<20130901083057.2cd412f5@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130901084232.7097dbf1@london>
Message-ID: <20130901084954.6b095d95@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Sun, 1 Sep 2013 08:42:32 +0100
Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote:

Hello Sharon,

>Well blow me down with a feather duster! That 'ALT+Drag Right-click'
>works beautifully and solves the problem very simply, thank you for
>it. Problem solved :)

You're more than welcome, Sharon.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
If Adolf Hitler flew in today, they'd send a limousine anyway
(White Man) In Hammersmith Palais - The Clash
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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Sun Sep  1 18:06:48 2013
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 12:06:48 -0400
Subject: [Users] SOLVED Re: Request for enhancement - resize windows
 gadget
In-Reply-To: <20130901084232.7097dbf1@london>
References: <20130831202405.7298dc8d@london>
	<20130831205322.6af998bd@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130901074727.74ab2d5a@london>
	<20130901083057.2cd412f5@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130901084232.7097dbf1@london>
Message-ID: <20130901120648.4a64f5c5@mydesk>

On Sun, 1 Sep 2013 08:42:32 +0100
Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 1 Sep 2013 08:30:57 +0100
> Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 1 Sep 2013 07:47:27 +0100
> > Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello Sharon,
> > 
> > >Well there’s nothing like it on fluxbox, hence my enhancement
> > >request.
> > 
> > There's no gadget in KDE.  Whenever I hover the mouse pointer over
> > an edge, or corner, the pointer changes to a doubled-headed arrow
> > indicating which side(s) of the window can be resized.
> > 
> > >Would you like a screenshot so you can see what I see?
> > 
> > It wasn't necessary, but thanks.
> > 
> > I don't use FluxBox, I never have, but a quick internet search
> > suggests that 'ALT+Drag Right-click' anywhere on a window resizes
> > the window when using it.  This may not do quite what you're after,
> > and certainly isn't as elegant as using just the mouse to resize,
> > but it might be a starting point.  If it's not what you want, the
> > best way to make a feature request for a resize gadget would be to
> > add a bug report with a severity of "feature request" at
> > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/.  It's then up to
> > the dev team how to proceed.
> > 
> Well blow me down with a feather duster! That 'ALT+Drag Right-click'
> works beautifully and solves the problem very simply, thank you for
> it. Problem solved :)
> 
>

Me too. You guys just solved a problem I didn't know I had. After
switching from Xfce, where they had a little resize triangle at one
corner of every window, to Openbox, which doesn't have that, my only
method of resizing was to go exactly to a corner. Now I can click
anywhere, and the closest side to my mouse pointer will move. I wish in
Openbox it would be the closest two perpendicular sides, but hey, til
now I didn't even know I was lacking this.

And Sharon, thanks for writing a SOLVED email. Three years from now,
somebody searching far and wide, and finding far more bulldroppings
than real info, will bless you for it.

Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt                *  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance


From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Sep  1 18:16:47 2013
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 18:16:47 +0200
Subject: [Users] SOLVED Re: Request for enhancement - resize windows
 gadget
In-Reply-To: <20130901120648.4a64f5c5@mydesk>
References: <20130831202405.7298dc8d@london>
	<20130831205322.6af998bd@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130901074727.74ab2d5a@london>
	<20130901083057.2cd412f5@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130901084232.7097dbf1@london> <20130901120648.4a64f5c5@mydesk>
Message-ID: <20130901181647.1002a61f@penny>

On Sun, 1 Sep 2013 12:06:48 -0400
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

> Me too. You guys just solved a problem I didn't know I had.

Just wait until you find yourself in front of a Windows system and wonder why
you can't resize a window. :) Happens to me from time to time, Alt+rightclick
is an awesome, easy to internalize, feature.

-- 
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian dot sk>


From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Sun Sep  1 19:34:02 2013
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 13:34:02 -0400
Subject: [Users] SOLVED Re: Request for enhancement - resize windows
 gadget
In-Reply-To: <20130901120648.4a64f5c5@mydesk>
References: <20130831202405.7298dc8d@london>
	<20130831205322.6af998bd@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130901074727.74ab2d5a@london>
	<20130901083057.2cd412f5@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130901084232.7097dbf1@london> <20130901120648.4a64f5c5@mydesk>
Message-ID: <20130901133402.507d1006@mydesk>

On Sun, 1 Sep 2013 12:06:48 -0400
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

> Now I can click
> anywhere, and the closest side to my mouse pointer will move. I wish
> in Openbox it would be the closest two perpendicular sides, but hey,
> til now I didn't even know I was lacking this.

Defective User Alert (DUA):

I was wrong. In fact, under OpenBox Alt+Rightclick *does* adjust two
perpendicular sides. It's easiest if you rightclick somewhere near a
corner, but appears to work anywhere. This is going to be a big
productivity gain for me. Thank you!

While we're at it, if you ever get one of those windows whose titlebar
is off the screen, Alt+LeftClick will move it if you leftclick on any
visible part of the window.

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt                *  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Wed Sep  4 14:47:08 2013
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 13:47:08 +0100
Subject: [Users] Subject Line Message
In-Reply-To: <20130830110017.2f684b5b@colin>
References: <000a01cea531$2a254830$7e6fd890$@aol.com>
	<20130830081437.1eefa354@thewildbeast>
	<004001cea553$ec9cf120$c5d6d360$@aol.com>
	<20130830100116.2ac40877@colin>
	<004301cea55a$fd9a4a70$f8cedf50$@aol.com>
	<20130830110017.2f684b5b@colin>
Message-ID: <20130904134708.4915b12e@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>

On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 11:00:17 +0200
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 01:29:04 -0700, <cgw993 at aol.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> > I will keeping looking for email clients
> 
> Seems like a good idea.

He's going to run out of excellent software to use, he's now upset this
list and the digiKam list in the space of a couple of days...


-- 

Brian Morrison

                "I am not young enough to know everything"
                                                          Oscar Wilde


From colin at colino.net  Wed Sep  4 15:09:45 2013
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 15:09:45 +0200
Subject: [Users] Subject Line Message
In-Reply-To: <20130904134708.4915b12e@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <000a01cea531$2a254830$7e6fd890$@aol.com>
	<20130830081437.1eefa354@thewildbeast>
	<004001cea553$ec9cf120$c5d6d360$@aol.com>
	<20130830100116.2ac40877@colin>
	<004301cea55a$fd9a4a70$f8cedf50$@aol.com>
	<20130830110017.2f684b5b@colin>
	<20130904134708.4915b12e@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20130904150945.390124dd@colin>

Hi,

> On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 11:00:17 +0200
> Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 01:29:04 -0700, <cgw993 at aol.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > > I will keeping looking for email clients
> > 
> > Seems like a good idea.
> 
> He's going to run out of excellent software to use, he's now upset
> this list and the digiKam list in the space of a couple of days...

Can't understand how! :)
-- 
Colin


From miniopl at poczta.onet.pl  Wed Sep  4 19:05:34 2013
From: miniopl at poczta.onet.pl (=?UTF-8?B?TWlyb3PFgmF3?= Zalewski)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 19:05:34 +0200
Subject: [Users] "Read" status reversed on IMAP account
Message-ID: <20130904190534.64922fa6@pingwin>

Hi

I have been using Claws-Mail (3.9.2 from Debian testing repository) for
few days. Mostly everything works as expected, but there is one thing
that does not.

Claws-Mail goes "crazy" for one particular IMAP account and inverts
"read" status for all messages - that is, messages that are read are
marked as unread, and messages that are unread are marked as read.
It always happens after checking for new mails. Usually first check
triggers this behavior. The next one "fixes" it, that is brings status
of all messages to correct one. Next one will invert statuses, and next
one bring them back. That goes repeatedly.

There is picture showing this issue:
http://imgur.com/ndzKH5z
direct link: http://i.imgur.com/ndzKH5z.png
At upper part is browser window with webmail for this account opened;
at lower part, there is Claws-Mail. As you can see in webmail, there is
only one unread message (marked as bold), received at 13:34. But
Claws-Mail treats this one message as read, while all others as unread.

Since this happens only for this one account (I am also using two other
IMAP accounts and one POP3 account), I can believe that this is
problem with server configuration. But since I know nothing about IMAP 
protocol, and "tech" support of company providing service will most likely
dismiss my concerns with "use one of supported e-mail clients" message,
I write to you first.

So, questions are:
1. Is this known issue in Claws-Mail? If so, is there workaround for it?
How can I apply it?
2. If it has been not reported yet, how can I get meaningful
debugging information for Claws-Mail developers?
3. How can I check if this is problem with company server?
If it turn out it is, how can I prove them that problem is on their end?

Thanks in advance for tips, pointers and answers.

I am attaching output of claws-mail -v and part of network log (with
HTML-style comments between) below. Please let me know if additional
info is required.

#v+
claws-mail --version-full Claws Mail version
3.9.2 runtime GTK+ 2.24.20 / GLib
2.36.4 buildtime GTK+ 2.24.20 / GLib
2.36.4 Compiled-in
features:
 compface
 aspell
 gnutls
 ipv6
 iconv
 jpilot
 ldap
 libetpan 1.0
 libsm
 NetworkManager
#v-

network log ( http://pastebin.com/wyKKXcrf ):
#v+
<!-- fetch new mails; status for all messages is correct right now-->
[18:37:21] IMAP4> 101 UID SEARCH ALL 
[18:37:21] IMAP4< * SEARCH 1 2 3 4 5 7 11 13 15 17 19 21 23 25 27 29 31 33 35 37[... - 8128 bytes more]
[18:37:21] IMAP4< 29 1930 1931 1932 1933 1934 1935 1936 1937 1938 1939 1940 1941[... - 4259 bytes more]
[18:37:21] IMAP4< 101 OK SEARCH completed. 
[18:37:21] IMAP4> 102 UID SEARCH UNSEEN 
[18:37:21] IMAP4< * SEARCH 1 2 3 4 5 7 11 13 15 17 19 21 23 25 27 29 31 33 35 37[... - 8128 bytes more]
[18:37:21] IMAP4< 29 1930 1931 1932 1933 1934 1935 1936 1937 1938 1939 1940 1941[... - 4259 bytes more]
[18:37:21] IMAP4< 102 OK SEARCH completed. 
[18:37:21] IMAP4> 103 UID SEARCH FLAGGED 
[18:37:21] IMAP4< * SEARCH  
[18:37:21] IMAP4< 103 OK SEARCH completed. 
[18:37:21] IMAP4> 104 UID SEARCH ANSWERED 
[18:37:21] IMAP4< * SEARCH 29 33 46 76 87 108 112 116 118 120 145 148 151 171 17[... - 3894 bytes more]
[18:37:21] IMAP4< 104 OK SEARCH completed. 
[18:37:21] IMAP4> 105 UID SEARCH DELETED 
[18:37:21] IMAP4< * SEARCH  
[18:37:21] IMAP4< 105 OK SEARCH completed. 
[18:37:21] IMAP4> 106 STATUS Sent (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[18:37:22] IMAP4< * STATUS "Sent" (MESSAGES 1618 UIDNEXT 7094 UIDVALIDITY 1377241625 UNSEEN 0) 
[18:37:22] IMAP4< 106 OK STATUS completed. 
[18:37:22] IMAP4> 107 STATUS Drafts (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[18:37:22] IMAP4< * STATUS "Drafts" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 7094 UIDVALIDITY 1377241625 UNSEEN 0) 
[18:37:22] IMAP4< 107 OK STATUS completed. 
[18:37:22] IMAP4> 108 STATUS Queue (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[18:37:22] IMAP4< * STATUS "Queue" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 7094 UIDVALIDITY 1377241625 UNSEEN 0) 
[18:37:22] IMAP4< 108 OK STATUS completed. 
[18:37:22] IMAP4> 109 STATUS Trash (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[18:37:23] IMAP4< * STATUS "Trash" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 7094 UIDVALIDITY 1377241625 UNSEEN 0) 
[18:37:23] IMAP4< 109 OK STATUS completed. 
[18:37:23] IMAP4> 110 STATUS "@DZIA&AUE-ANIA" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[18:37:24] IMAP4< * STATUS "@DZIA&AUE-ANIA" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 7094 UIDVALIDITY 1377241625 UNSEEN 0) 
[18:37:24] IMAP4< 110 OK STATUS completed. 
[18:37:24] IMAP4> 111 STATUS "KNSS UAM" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[18:37:24] IMAP4< * STATUS "KNSS UAM" (MESSAGES 442 UIDNEXT 7094 UIDVALIDITY 1377241625 UNSEEN 0) 
[18:37:24] IMAP4< 111 OK STATUS completed. 
[18:37:24] IMAP4> 112 STATUS "@OCZEKIWANE" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[18:37:24] IMAP4< * STATUS "@OCZEKIWANE" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 7094 UIDVALIDITY 1377241625 UNSEEN 0) 
[18:37:24] IMAP4< 112 OK STATUS completed. 
[18:37:24] IMAP4> 113 STATUS Spam (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[18:37:24] IMAP4< * STATUS "Spam" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 7094 UIDVALIDITY 1377241625 UNSEEN 0) 
[18:37:24] IMAP4< 113 OK STATUS completed. 
<!-- status of all messages is inverted right now; search for new mails again -->
[18:37:47] IMAP4> 115 UID SEARCH ALL 
[18:37:47] IMAP4< * SEARCH 1 2 3 4 5 7 11 13 15 17 19 21 23 25 27 29 31 33 35 37[... - 8128 bytes more]
[18:37:47] IMAP4< 29 1930 1931 1932 1933 1934 1935 1936 1937 1938 1939 1940 1941[... - 4259 bytes more]
[18:37:47] IMAP4< 115 OK SEARCH completed. 
[18:37:47] IMAP4> 116 UID SEARCH SEEN 
[18:37:47] IMAP4< * SEARCH 1 2 3 4 5 7 11 13 15 17 19 21 23 25 27 29 31 33 35 37[... - 8128 bytes more]
[18:37:47] IMAP4< 29 1930 1931 1932 1933 1934 1935 1936 1937 1938 1939 1940 1941[... - 4259 bytes more]
[18:37:47] IMAP4< 116 OK SEARCH completed. 
[18:37:47] IMAP4> 117 UID SEARCH FLAGGED 
[18:37:47] IMAP4< * SEARCH  
[18:37:47] IMAP4< 117 OK SEARCH completed. 
[18:37:47] IMAP4> 118 UID SEARCH ANSWERED 
[18:37:47] IMAP4< * SEARCH 29 33 46 76 87 108 112 116 118 120 145 148 151 171 17[... - 3894 bytes more]
[18:37:47] IMAP4< 118 OK SEARCH completed. 
[18:37:47] IMAP4> 119 UID SEARCH DELETED 
[18:37:47] IMAP4< * SEARCH  
[18:37:47] IMAP4< 119 OK SEARCH completed. 
[18:37:47] IMAP4> 120 STATUS Sent (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[18:37:51] IMAP4< * STATUS "Sent" (MESSAGES 1618 UIDNEXT 7094 UIDVALIDITY 1377241625 UNSEEN 0) 
[18:37:51] IMAP4< 120 OK STATUS completed. 
[18:37:51] IMAP4> 121 STATUS Drafts (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[18:37:52] IMAP4< * STATUS "Drafts" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 7094 UIDVALIDITY 1377241625 UNSEEN 0) 
[18:37:52] IMAP4< 121 OK STATUS completed. 
[18:37:52] IMAP4> 122 STATUS Queue (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[18:37:52] IMAP4< * STATUS "Queue" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 7094 UIDVALIDITY 1377241625 UNSEEN 0) 
[18:37:52] IMAP4< 122 OK STATUS completed. 
[18:37:52] IMAP4> 123 STATUS Trash (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[18:37:53] IMAP4< * STATUS "Trash" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 7094 UIDVALIDITY 1377241625 UNSEEN 0) 
[18:37:53] IMAP4< 123 OK STATUS completed. 
[18:37:53] IMAP4> 124 STATUS "@DZIA&AUE-ANIA" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[18:37:54] IMAP4< * STATUS "@DZIA&AUE-ANIA" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 7094 UIDVALIDITY 1377241625 UNSEEN 0) 
[18:37:54] IMAP4< 124 OK STATUS completed. 
[18:37:54] IMAP4> 125 STATUS "KNSS UAM" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[18:37:54] IMAP4< * STATUS "KNSS UAM" (MESSAGES 442 UIDNEXT 7094 UIDVALIDITY 1377241625 UNSEEN 0) 
[18:37:54] IMAP4< 125 OK STATUS completed. 
[18:37:54] IMAP4> 126 STATUS "@OCZEKIWANE" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[18:37:55] IMAP4< * STATUS "@OCZEKIWANE" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 7094 UIDVALIDITY 1377241625 UNSEEN 0) 
[18:37:55] IMAP4< 126 OK STATUS completed. 
[18:37:55] IMAP4> 127 STATUS Spam (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[18:37:56] IMAP4< * STATUS "Spam" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 7094 UIDVALIDITY 1377241625 UNSEEN 0) 
[18:37:56] IMAP4< 127 OK STATUS completed. 
<!-- status of all messages is correct again-->
#v-
-- 
Best regards
Mirosław Zalewski


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Wed Sep  4 19:18:09 2013
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 18:18:09 +0100
Subject: [Users] "Read" status reversed on IMAP account
In-Reply-To: <20130904190534.64922fa6@pingwin>
References: <20130904190534.64922fa6@pingwin>
Message-ID: <20130904181809.06098a79@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>

On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 19:05:34 +0200
Mirosław Zalewski <miniopl at poczta.onet.pl> wrote:

> So, questions are:
> 1. Is this known issue in Claws-Mail? If so, is there workaround for it?
> How can I apply it?

Generally I don't think so, but what you could try is to right click on
the mailbox that is causing the problem and select Rebuild folder tree.
This will flush the local cache and force a reload of metadata from the
server.

It might help, but no guarantees.

Do you have any details on the server in question, software, version
etc?

-- 

Brian Morrison

                "I am not young enough to know everything"
                                                          Oscar Wilde


From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Wed Sep  4 20:02:05 2013
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 11:02:05 -0700
Subject: [Users] Send later  question
Message-ID: <20130904110205.7c6d5ccd@frogguski.911networks.com>

Hi,

I there a way of controlling the "send later" with a specific
date/time?

-- 
Thanks
http://www.911networks.com
When the network has to work


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Wed Sep  4 17:02:21 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 16:02:21 +0100
Subject: [Users] Subject Line Message
In-Reply-To: <20130904134708.4915b12e@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <000a01cea531$2a254830$7e6fd890$@aol.com>
	<20130830081437.1eefa354@thewildbeast>
	<004001cea553$ec9cf120$c5d6d360$@aol.com>
	<20130830100116.2ac40877@colin>
	<004301cea55a$fd9a4a70$f8cedf50$@aol.com>
	<20130830110017.2f684b5b@colin>
	<20130904134708.4915b12e@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20130904160221.62f8f05a@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 13:47:08 +0100
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

Hello Brian,

>He's going to run out of excellent software to use, he's now upset this
>list and the digiKam list in the space of a couple of days...

How he(1) had the gall to call Colin a wimp whilst hiding behind an
anonymous email address beggars belief.

(1)  Let's face it, it has to be a male.  An adolescent one, no doubt.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
Buy some love at the five and dime
You Have Placed A Chill In My Heart - Eurythmics
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From miniopl at poczta.onet.pl  Wed Sep  4 20:46:34 2013
From: miniopl at poczta.onet.pl (=?UTF-8?B?TWlyb3PFgmF3?= Zalewski)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 20:46:34 +0200
Subject: [Users] "Read" status reversed on IMAP account
In-Reply-To: <20130904181809.06098a79@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20130904190534.64922fa6@pingwin>
	<20130904181809.06098a79@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20130904204634.1e8da336@pingwin>

Dnia 2013-09-04, o godz. 18:18:09
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> napisał(a):

> Generally I don't think so, but what you could try is to right click
> on the mailbox that is causing the problem and select Rebuild folder
> tree. This will flush the local cache and force a reload of metadata
> from the server.

Unfortunately, it does not help.

> Do you have any details on the server in question, software, version
> etc?

Very little, I'm afraid.
Server in question is poczta.o2.pl (sorry for not mentioning it in
initial message!). Their website ( http://pomoc.o2.pl/poczta/programy/ )
states that non-secure IMAP is reachable at port 995; secure IMAP is at
993.

I could not find any technical details on their help pages anywhere.

I have also nmap-ed this host; results are attached below. But it
states that nmap was unable to determine software name.

If I can connect to server with telnet or whatever and ask it for
software version, I will happily do that if you tell me how.

nmap results:
#v+
$ nmap poczta.o2.pl
PORT    STATE SERVICE
25/tcp  open  smtp
80/tcp  open  http
110/tcp open  pop3
143/tcp open  imap
443/tcp open  https
465/tcp open  smtps
587/tcp open  submission
993/tcp open  imaps
995/tcp open  pop3s

$ nmap -A -p 143,993,995 poczta.o2.pl
Starting Nmap 6.40 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2013-09-04 20:03 CEST
Nmap scan report for poczta.o2.pl (193.17.41.99)
Host is up (0.21s latency).
PORT    STATE SERVICE    VERSION
143/tcp open  imap?
|_imap-capabilities: MOVE STARTTLS XAOL-OPTION UIDPLUS IDLE NAMESPACE Capability XAOL-MOVE completed OK IMAP4rev1 CHILDREN QUOTAA0001 ID
993/tcp open  ssl/imaps?
| ssl-cert: Subject: commonName=*.o2.pl
| Not valid before: 2012-09-23T11:17:26+00:00
|_Not valid after:  2013-09-25T21:03:05+00:00
995/tcp open  ssl/pop3
| ssl-cert: Subject: commonName=*.o2.pl
| Not valid before: 2012-09-23T11:17:26+00:00
|_Not valid after:  2013-09-25T21:03:05+00:00
3 services unrecognized despite returning data. If you know the service/version, please submit the following fingerprints at http://www.insecure.org/cgi-bin/servicefp-submit.cgi :
==============NEXT SERVICE FINGERPRINT (SUBMIT INDIVIDUALLY)==============
SF-Port143-TCP:V=6.40%I=7%D=9/4%Time=522775FD%P=x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu%r
SF:(NULL,72,"\*\x20OK\x20\[CAPABILITY\x20IMAP4rev1\x20IDLE\x20CHILDREN\x20
SF:NAMESPACE\x20UIDPLUS\x20STARTTLS\x20MOVE\x20XAOL-MOVE\x20XAOL-OPTION\x2
SF:0ID\x20QUOTA\]\x20o2\x20imap\r\n")%r(GetRequest,9E,"\*\x20OK\x20\[CAPAB
SF:ILITY\x20IMAP4rev1\x20IDLE\x20CHILDREN\x20NAMESPACE\x20UIDPLUS\x20START
SF:TLS\x20MOVE\x20XAOL-MOVE\x20XAOL-OPTION\x20ID\x20QUOTA\]\x20o2\x20imap\
SF:r\nGET\x20BAD\x20Parse\(\):\x20Error\x20in\x20command\x20received\r\n")
SF:%r(GenericLines,72,"\*\x20OK\x20\[CAPABILITY\x20IMAP4rev1\x20IDLE\x20CH
SF:ILDREN\x20NAMESPACE\x20UIDPLUS\x20STARTTLS\x20MOVE\x20XAOL-MOVE\x20XAOL
SF:-OPTION\x20ID\x20QUOTA\]\x20o2\x20imap\r\n")%r(HTTPOptions,A2,"\*\x20OK
SF:\x20\[CAPABILITY\x20IMAP4rev1\x20IDLE\x20CHILDREN\x20NAMESPACE\x20UIDPL
SF:US\x20STARTTLS\x20MOVE\x20XAOL-MOVE\x20XAOL-OPTION\x20ID\x20QUOTA\]\x20
SF:o2\x20imap\r\nOPTIONS\x20BAD\x20Parse\(\):\x20Error\x20in\x20command\x2
SF:0received\r\n")%r(RTSPRequest,A2,"\*\x20OK\x20\[CAPABILITY\x20IMAP4rev1
SF:\x20IDLE\x20CHILDREN\x20NAMESPACE\x20UIDPLUS\x20STARTTLS\x20MOVE\x20XAO
SF:L-MOVE\x20XAOL-OPTION\x20ID\x20QUOTA\]\x20o2\x20imap\r\nOPTIONS\x20BAD\
SF:x20Parse\(\):\x20Error\x20in\x20command\x20received\r\n")%r(RPCCheck,72
SF:,"\*\x20OK\x20\[CAPABILITY\x20IMAP4rev1\x20IDLE\x20CHILDREN\x20NAMESPAC
SF:E\x20UIDPLUS\x20STARTTLS\x20MOVE\x20XAOL-MOVE\x20XAOL-OPTION\x20ID\x20Q
SF:UOTA\]\x20o2\x20imap\r\n")%r(DNSVersionBindReq,72,"\*\x20OK\x20\[CAPABI
SF:LITY\x20IMAP4rev1\x20IDLE\x20CHILDREN\x20NAMESPACE\x20UIDPLUS\x20STARTT
SF:LS\x20MOVE\x20XAOL-MOVE\x20XAOL-OPTION\x20ID\x20QUOTA\]\x20o2\x20imap\r
SF:\n")%r(DNSStatusRequest,72,"\*\x20OK\x20\[CAPABILITY\x20IMAP4rev1\x20ID
SF:LE\x20CHILDREN\x20NAMESPACE\x20UIDPLUS\x20STARTTLS\x20MOVE\x20XAOL-MOVE
SF:\x20XAOL-OPTION\x20ID\x20QUOTA\]\x20o2\x20imap\r\n")%r(Help,9C,"\*\x20O
SF:K\x20\[CAPABILITY\x20IMAP4rev1\x20IDLE\x20CHILDREN\x20NAMESPACE\x20UIDP
SF:LUS\x20STARTTLS\x20MOVE\x20XAOL-MOVE\x20XAOL-OPTION\x20ID\x20QUOTA\]\x2
SF:0o2\x20imap\r\n\*\x20BAD\x20Parse\(\):\x20Error\x20in\x20command\x20rec
SF:eived\r\n")%r(SSLSessionReq,9C,"\*\x20OK\x20\[CAPABILITY\x20IMAP4rev1\x
SF:20IDLE\x20CHILDREN\x20NAMESPACE\x20UIDPLUS\x20STARTTLS\x20MOVE\x20XAOL-
SF:MOVE\x20XAOL-OPTION\x20ID\x20QUOTA\]\x20o2\x20imap\r\n\*\x20BAD\x20Pars
SF:e\(\):\x20Error\x20in\x20command\x20received\r\n");
==============NEXT SERVICE FINGERPRINT (SUBMIT INDIVIDUALLY)==============
SF-Port993-TCP:V=6.40%T=SSL%I=7%D=9/4%Time=52277609%P=x86_64-unknown-linux
SF:-gnu%r(NULL,69,"\*\x20OK\x20\[CAPABILITY\x20IMAP4rev1\x20IDLE\x20CHILDR
SF:EN\x20NAMESPACE\x20UIDPLUS\x20MOVE\x20XAOL-MOVE\x20XAOL-OPTION\x20ID\x2
SF:0QUOTA\]\x20o2\x20imap\r\n")%r(GenericLines,69,"\*\x20OK\x20\[CAPABILIT
SF:Y\x20IMAP4rev1\x20IDLE\x20CHILDREN\x20NAMESPACE\x20UIDPLUS\x20MOVE\x20X
SF:AOL-MOVE\x20XAOL-OPTION\x20ID\x20QUOTA\]\x20o2\x20imap\r\n")%r(GetReque
SF:st,95,"\*\x20OK\x20\[CAPABILITY\x20IMAP4rev1\x20IDLE\x20CHILDREN\x20NAM
SF:ESPACE\x20UIDPLUS\x20MOVE\x20XAOL-MOVE\x20XAOL-OPTION\x20ID\x20QUOTA\]\
SF:x20o2\x20imap\r\nGET\x20BAD\x20Parse\(\):\x20Error\x20in\x20command\x20
SF:received\r\n")%r(HTTPOptions,99,"\*\x20OK\x20\[CAPABILITY\x20IMAP4rev1\
SF:x20IDLE\x20CHILDREN\x20NAMESPACE\x20UIDPLUS\x20MOVE\x20XAOL-MOVE\x20XAO
SF:L-OPTION\x20ID\x20QUOTA\]\x20o2\x20imap\r\nOPTIONS\x20BAD\x20Parse\(\):
SF:\x20Error\x20in\x20command\x20received\r\n")%r(RTSPRequest,99,"\*\x20OK
SF:\x20\[CAPABILITY\x20IMAP4rev1\x20IDLE\x20CHILDREN\x20NAMESPACE\x20UIDPL
SF:US\x20MOVE\x20XAOL-MOVE\x20XAOL-OPTION\x20ID\x20QUOTA\]\x20o2\x20imap\r
SF:\nOPTIONS\x20BAD\x20Parse\(\):\x20Error\x20in\x20command\x20received\r\
SF:n")%r(RPCCheck,69,"\*\x20OK\x20\[CAPABILITY\x20IMAP4rev1\x20IDLE\x20CHI
SF:LDREN\x20NAMESPACE\x20UIDPLUS\x20MOVE\x20XAOL-MOVE\x20XAOL-OPTION\x20ID
SF:\x20QUOTA\]\x20o2\x20imap\r\n")%r(DNSVersionBindReq,69,"\*\x20OK\x20\[C
SF:APABILITY\x20IMAP4rev1\x20IDLE\x20CHILDREN\x20NAMESPACE\x20UIDPLUS\x20M
SF:OVE\x20XAOL-MOVE\x20XAOL-OPTION\x20ID\x20QUOTA\]\x20o2\x20imap\r\n")%r(
SF:DNSStatusRequest,69,"\*\x20OK\x20\[CAPABILITY\x20IMAP4rev1\x20IDLE\x20C
SF:HILDREN\x20NAMESPACE\x20UIDPLUS\x20MOVE\x20XAOL-MOVE\x20XAOL-OPTION\x20
SF:ID\x20QUOTA\]\x20o2\x20imap\r\n")%r(Help,93,"\*\x20OK\x20\[CAPABILITY\x
SF:20IMAP4rev1\x20IDLE\x20CHILDREN\x20NAMESPACE\x20UIDPLUS\x20MOVE\x20XAOL
SF:-MOVE\x20XAOL-OPTION\x20ID\x20QUOTA\]\x20o2\x20imap\r\n\*\x20BAD\x20Par
SF:se\(\):\x20Error\x20in\x20command\x20received\r\n")%r(SSLSessionReq,93,
SF:"\*\x20OK\x20\[CAPABILITY\x20IMAP4rev1\x20IDLE\x20CHILDREN\x20NAMESPACE
SF:\x20UIDPLUS\x20MOVE\x20XAOL-MOVE\x20XAOL-OPTION\x20ID\x20QUOTA\]\x20o2\
SF:x20imap\r\n\*\x20BAD\x20Parse\(\):\x20Error\x20in\x20command\x20receive
SF:d\r\n");
==============NEXT SERVICE FINGERPRINT (SUBMIT INDIVIDUALLY)==============
SF-Port995-TCP:V=6.40%T=SSL%I=7%D=9/4%Time=52277612%P=x86_64-unknown-linux
SF:-gnu%r(NULL,1D,"\+OK\x20POP3\x20poczta\.o2\.pl\x20Ready\r\n")%r(Generic
SF:Lines,23,"\+OK\x20POP3\x20poczta\.o2\.pl\x20Ready\r\n-ERR\r\n")%r(HTTPO
SF:ptions,23,"\+OK\x20POP3\x20poczta\.o2\.pl\x20Ready\r\n-ERR\r\n");
#v-
-- 
Best regards
Mirosław Zalewski


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Thu Sep  5 00:48:27 2013
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 00:48:27 +0200
Subject: [Users] Subject Line Message
In-Reply-To: <20130904160221.62f8f05a@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <000a01cea531$2a254830$7e6fd890$@aol.com>
	<20130830081437.1eefa354@thewildbeast>
	<004001cea553$ec9cf120$c5d6d360$@aol.com>
	<20130830100116.2ac40877@colin>
	<004301cea55a$fd9a4a70$f8cedf50$@aol.com>
	<20130830110017.2f684b5b@colin>
	<20130904134708.4915b12e@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130904160221.62f8f05a@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20130905004827.1cdf401b@mirrors.kernel.org>


> How he(1) had the gall to call Colin a wimp 

In a way, it's funny ^^

and i'm sure Colin can take it easy :)


From ricardo at mones.org  Thu Sep  5 01:18:45 2013
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 01:18:45 +0200
Subject: [Users] Send later  question
In-Reply-To: <20130904110205.7c6d5ccd@frogguski.911networks.com>
References: <20130904110205.7c6d5ccd@frogguski.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20130905011845.13af9d3f@busgosu>

On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 11:02:05 -0700
sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I there a way of controlling the "send later" with a specific
> date/time?

  No, but seems doable it by tweaking the mail server to support some
  header: http://www.mail-archive.com/exim-users at exim.org/msg25377.html

  regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.          Carl Sagan

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep  5 06:24:52 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 04:24:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2972] secondary dialog boxes non-selectable
In-Reply-To: <bug-2972-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2972-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2972-595-VAw9OaReUD@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2972

--- Comment #1 from Jeremy <jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com> ---
This sounds very similar to these two bugs filed in the ubuntu bugtracker:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/claws-mail/+bug/921973
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/claws-mail/+bug/802673

I've been experiencing something similar to this since a year ago or so when I
upgraded to 3.9.0 and now with 3.9.1 from the claws-mail team PPA.  Both set of
steps from ubuntu bug 921973 will reliably reproduce the problem on my system. 
Anyone have ideas what might be causing this strange behavior?

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From jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com  Thu Sep  5 06:39:18 2013
From: jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com (Jeremy Schneider)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 23:39:18 -0500
Subject: [Users] Filtering windows problem (cannot close)
In-Reply-To: <20121227192003.0a7dd9b2@thewildbeast>
References: <20121225095818.212b5079@victoria>
	<20121225173542.00004652@unknown> <20121225225116.5bd51630@mydesk>
	<20121225233228.67a288b5@victoria>
	<20121227091836.71bfdce8@thewildbeast>
	<20121227044954.7a01ab47@victoria>
	<20121227125450.2b535bb1@thewildbeast>
	<20121227132753.413f2d0f@mydesk>
	<20121227192003.0a7dd9b2@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <CA+fnDAafyWkJafFeCe8x84R0Nd_U24Yiw+REpD5zsu3aMafDGA@mail.gmail.com>

I just dropped a comment on bug 2972 (secondary dialog boxes
non-selectable) and then after some searching I came across this thread.
 I'm still experiencing this frustrating behavior... been putting up with
it for almost a year... does anyone have an idea what's even causing the
problem?  I'm a unity user; is claws simply not going to be supported on
unity?

--
http://about.me/jeremy_schneider


On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:27:53 -0500
> Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:
>
> > It happens to me in Xfce with Ubuntu 11.10 and 12.04.
>
> Hmm, you're using 3.7.9, so that's a different issue which has been
> fixed in recent versions.
>
> with regards
>
> Paul
>
>
> --
> It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me,
> but to a collector it is worth a fortune
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Thu Sep  5 09:02:36 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 08:02:36 +0100
Subject: [Users] Subject Line Message
In-Reply-To: <20130905004827.1cdf401b@mirrors.kernel.org>
References: <000a01cea531$2a254830$7e6fd890$@aol.com>
	<20130830081437.1eefa354@thewildbeast>
	<004001cea553$ec9cf120$c5d6d360$@aol.com>
	<20130830100116.2ac40877@colin>
	<004301cea55a$fd9a4a70$f8cedf50$@aol.com>
	<20130830110017.2f684b5b@colin>
	<20130904134708.4915b12e@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130904160221.62f8f05a@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130905004827.1cdf401b@mirrors.kernel.org>
Message-ID: <20130905080236.4312f333@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 00:48:27 +0200
Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote:

Hello Michael,

>In a way, it's funny ^^

It certainly says a lot about the OP.

>and i'm sure Colin can take it easy :)

From what I 'see' of Colin on this list, he's one of the calmest people
I know.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
It couldn't adapt so it couldn't survive
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From sven_klages at web.de  Thu Sep  5 11:28:18 2013
From: sven_klages at web.de (Sven Klages)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 11:28:18 +0200
Subject: [Users] Compiling Claws Mail 3.9.1/2 from scratch
Message-ID: <CAAX9WiX2MObcXPrzbCSfTy-RCmLNbEm17d2WzaL_Zm=-jG8Npg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

we are running here an inhouse-made LFS-based linux on a few hundred
machines.

On my workstation I wanted to compile CM 3.9.1 and later 3.9.2 but
failed. Compiling versions up to 3.9.0 worked just fine.

Linux 64bit
gcc 4.7.1 / 4.81
libgcrypt-1.5.2

libEtPan has been freshly cloned from GIT.

'configure' and make using defaults:

[..]
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/4.7.1/../../../../x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/bin/ld:
etpan/.libs/libclawsetpan.a(ssl.o): undefined reference to symbol
'gcry_control@@GCRYPT_1.2'
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/4.7.1/../../../../x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/bin/ld:
note: 'gcry_control@@GCRYPT_1.2' is defined in
DSO /home/user/programme/ClawsMail/3.9.2/lib/libgcrypt.so.11 so try
adding it to the linker command
line /home/user/programme/ClawsMail/3.9.2/lib/libgcrypt.so.11: could
not read symbols: Invalid operation collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit
status make[4]: *** [claws-mail] Error 1

Using '--disable-gnutls' during configure does the trick .. but this is not
really wanted ..

Any idea where too look for the problem or how to solve it?

I have no root access to the workstation I am working with.

regards,
Sven
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep  5 13:38:57 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 12:38:57 +0100
Subject: [Users] Send later  question
In-Reply-To: <20130905011845.13af9d3f@busgosu>
References: <20130904110205.7c6d5ccd@frogguski.911networks.com>
	<20130905011845.13af9d3f@busgosu>
Message-ID: <20130905123857.46a49352@thewildbeast>

On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 01:18:45 +0200
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote: 

>   No, but seems doable it by tweaking the mail server to support
> some header:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/exim-users at exim.org/msg25377.html


Alternately, perhaps, cron (or something else) could be used to run
`claws-mail --send`.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep  5 13:49:40 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 12:49:40 +0100
Subject: [Users] Filtering windows problem (cannot close)
In-Reply-To: <CA+fnDAafyWkJafFeCe8x84R0Nd_U24Yiw+REpD5zsu3aMafDGA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20121225095818.212b5079@victoria>
	<20121225173542.00004652@unknown> <20121225225116.5bd51630@mydesk>
	<20121225233228.67a288b5@victoria>
	<20121227091836.71bfdce8@thewildbeast>
	<20121227044954.7a01ab47@victoria>
	<20121227125450.2b535bb1@thewildbeast>
	<20121227132753.413f2d0f@mydesk>
	<20121227192003.0a7dd9b2@thewildbeast>
	<CA+fnDAafyWkJafFeCe8x84R0Nd_U24Yiw+REpD5zsu3aMafDGA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20130905124940.059c5ee4@thewildbeast>

On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 23:39:18 -0500
Jeremy Schneider <jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com> wrote: 

> I just dropped a comment on bug 2972 (secondary dialog boxes
> non-selectable) and then after some searching I came across this
> thread. I'm still experiencing this frustrating behavior... been
> putting up with it for almost a year... does anyone have an idea
> what's even causing the problem?

It could be that you have "overlay-scrollbar-gtk2" (or similarly
named) installed. This, it appears, tries to be smart but actually
messes things up badly. It has been the cause of some modal window
misbehaviour in Claws. If you've got it installed, remove it and see
if the problem goes away.

> I'm a unity user; is claws simply not going to be supported on
> unity?

Unity is just a desktop. Claws will work on ubuntu.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep  5 14:01:03 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 13:01:03 +0100
Subject: [Users] Compiling Claws Mail 3.9.1/2 from scratch
In-Reply-To: <CAAX9WiX2MObcXPrzbCSfTy-RCmLNbEm17d2WzaL_Zm=-jG8Npg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAX9WiX2MObcXPrzbCSfTy-RCmLNbEm17d2WzaL_Zm=-jG8Npg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20130905130103.496cafc3@thewildbeast>

What version of gnutls do you have?

regards

Paul

-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep  5 14:34:46 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 12:34:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2999] New: Claws-Mail disregards style preferences of
	fvwm
Message-ID: <bug-2999-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2999

            Bug ID: 2999
           Summary: Claws-Mail disregards style preferences of fvwm
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.9.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message View
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: terentius at gmx.de

The claws-mail main window does not appear on the virtual screen that has been
assigned to claws-mail by a style in fvwm. It appears always on the current
virtual screen. On the contrary, sub-windows like Message Compose or adressbook
do respect the fvwm styles.
I remember that in some earlier version (maybe 2.7?) the behaviour was correct,
and all windows of claws-mail always obeyed the fvwm styles file.
I would like to start claws-mail on a certain virtual screen and to sit there
without interfering with other screens on the virtual desktop.

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From sven_klages at web.de  Thu Sep  5 15:15:51 2013
From: sven_klages at web.de (Sven Klages)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:15:51 +0200
Subject: [Users] Compiling Claws Mail 3.9.1/2 from scratch
In-Reply-To: <20130905140943.7121b08a@thewildbeast>
References: <CAAX9WiX2MObcXPrzbCSfTy-RCmLNbEm17d2WzaL_Zm=-jG8Npg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130905130103.496cafc3@thewildbeast>
	<CAAX9WiVOvJ1On4kOkVNuM5=0u=W7JCq+0ArEHihksyLUm8Tupg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130905140943.7121b08a@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <CAAX9WiW4ZeMS8XJnqe9gz+ZjwYw9MOQeOYZgtoAJA4LX8kXjBg@mail.gmail.com>

#define GNUTLS_VERSION_NUMBER 0x020806

sorry for going off-list, again on-list .. :-)


2013/9/5 Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>

> On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 14:55:42 +0200
> Sven Klages <sven_klages at web.de> wrote:
>
> > gnutls.h says:
> >
> > #define GNUTLS_VERSION "2.8.6"
> >
> > thanks
>
>
> You've gone off-list, so we'll continue that way.
>
> I have a newer gnuTLS here and all is fine. (Apparently gnutls has
> switched to libnettle at some version beyond 3, but that's can't be
> the issue here.)
>
> What does GNUTLS_VERSION_NUMBER from the same file say?
>
> with regards
>
> Paul
>
>
> --
> It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me,
> but to a collector it is worth a fortune
>
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From ricardo at mones.org  Thu Sep  5 16:00:01 2013
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:00:01 +0200
Subject: [Users] Send later  question
In-Reply-To: <20130905123857.46a49352@thewildbeast>
References: <20130904110205.7c6d5ccd@frogguski.911networks.com>
	<20130905011845.13af9d3f@busgosu>
	<20130905123857.46a49352@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20130905140001.GA5063@trasgu>

On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 12:38:57PM +0100, Paul wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 01:18:45 +0200
> Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote: 
> 
> >   No, but seems doable it by tweaking the mail server to support
> > some header:
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/exim-users at exim.org/msg25377.html
> 
> 
> Alternately, perhaps, cron (or something else) could be used to run
> `claws-mail --send`.

  IIRC that would send any queued mail, disregarding the delay set by
the user, so it would require some support on Claws Mail to be able
to skip queued mails whose delivery time is ahead of current time.
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
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From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org  Thu Sep  5 16:13:15 2013
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron))
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 10:13:15 -0400
Subject: [Users] Send on check mail
Message-ID: <20130905101315.69692c54@ron.cerrocora.org>

In days now gone, before I upgraded from KMail to Claws (and from KDE to XFCE) I remember I had a setting that allowed having the queued mail sent at the same time that the server was periodically queried to check and download new mail.

This was a boon, specially so in a country where we pay for every phone call, and the multiplication of dial-up calls singularly increases the phone bill.

I have not found a way to do the same in Claws; is there one ?
 
Cheers,
 
Ron, on the banks of the Paraguay River.
-- 
                       Hvad skal manden vaer ?         
                       Sig selv, det er mit korte svar.
                                        -- Henrik Ibsen
                                    
                   -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
 



From colin at colino.net  Thu Sep  5 17:15:55 2013
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 17:15:55 +0200
Subject: [Users] Subject Line Message
In-Reply-To: <20130905080236.4312f333@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <000a01cea531$2a254830$7e6fd890$@aol.com>
	<20130830081437.1eefa354@thewildbeast>
	<004001cea553$ec9cf120$c5d6d360$@aol.com>
	<20130830100116.2ac40877@colin>
	<004301cea55a$fd9a4a70$f8cedf50$@aol.com>
	<20130830110017.2f684b5b@colin>
	<20130904134708.4915b12e@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130904160221.62f8f05a@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130905004827.1cdf401b@mirrors.kernel.org>
	<20130905080236.4312f333@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20130905171555.4bc9cb48@colin>

On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 08:02:36 +0100, Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk>
wrote:

> From what I 'see' of Colin on this list, he's one of the calmest
> people I know.

:) More than a decade of mailing-lists usage made me thick-skinned! And
it's much easier like that, just brushing off assholes' comments and
focusing on the interesting things.

-- 
Colin


From colin at colino.net  Thu Sep  5 17:16:47 2013
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 17:16:47 +0200
Subject: [Users] "Read" status reversed on IMAP account
In-Reply-To: <20130904190534.64922fa6@pingwin>
References: <20130904190534.64922fa6@pingwin>
Message-ID: <20130905171647.1a222abe@colin>

On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 19:05:34 +0200, Mirosław Zalewski
<miniopl at poczta.onet.pl> wrote:

> Claws-Mail goes "crazy" for one particular IMAP account and inverts
> "read" status for all messages - that is, messages that are read are
> marked as unread, and messages that are unread are marked as read.
> It always happens after checking for new mails. Usually first check
> triggers this behavior. The next one "fixes" it, that is brings status
> of all messages to correct one. Next one will invert statuses, and
> next one bring them back. That goes repeatedly.

Can you try to toggle the IMAP account's "Bandwidth-efficient mode", in
the account preferences' Receive tab ?

-- 
Colin


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep  5 17:34:55 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:34:55 +0100
Subject: [Users] Send later  question
In-Reply-To: <20130905140001.GA5063@trasgu>
References: <20130904110205.7c6d5ccd@frogguski.911networks.com>
	<20130905011845.13af9d3f@busgosu>
	<20130905123857.46a49352@thewildbeast>
	<20130905140001.GA5063@trasgu>
Message-ID: <20130905163455.3de18749@thewildbeast>

On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:00:01 +0200
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote: 

>   IIRC that would send any queued mail, disregarding the delay set
> by the user, so it would require some support on Claws Mail to be
> able to skip queued mails whose delivery time is ahead of current
> time.

Well, yes, but you /can't/ set a delivery time in Claws, can you! :)
But you could dump all messages in the queue and have cron send them
at the end of the day, for example. 

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Thu Sep  5 17:53:39 2013
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 08:53:39 -0700
Subject: [Users] Send later  question
In-Reply-To: <20130905163455.3de18749@thewildbeast>
References: <20130904110205.7c6d5ccd@frogguski.911networks.com>
	<20130905011845.13af9d3f@busgosu>
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Message-ID: <20130905085339.14889c42@frogguski.911networks.com>

On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:34:55 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

>On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:00:01 +0200
>Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote: 
>
>>   IIRC that would send any queued mail, disregarding the delay set
>> by the user, so it would require some support on Claws Mail to be
>> able to skip queued mails whose delivery time is ahead of current
>> time.
>
>Well, yes, but you /can't/ set a delivery time in Claws, can you! :)
>But you could dump all messages in the queue and have cron send them
>at the end of the day, for example. 

Sorry to butt in but... 

Can you give me a cron example to send all the emails from the queue
folder?

Thanks

-- 
http://www.911networks.com
When the network has to work


From miniopl at poczta.onet.pl  Thu Sep  5 17:59:48 2013
From: miniopl at poczta.onet.pl (=?UTF-8?B?TWlyb3PFgmF3?= Zalewski)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 17:59:48 +0200
Subject: [Users] "Read" status reversed on IMAP account
In-Reply-To: <20130905171647.1a222abe@colin>
References: <20130904190534.64922fa6@pingwin> <20130905171647.1a222abe@colin>
Message-ID: <20130905175948.20eab3e2@pingwin>

Dnia 2013-09-05, o godz. 17:16:47
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> napisał(a):

> Can you try to toggle the IMAP account's "Bandwidth-efficient mode",
> in the account preferences' Receive tab ?

That seems to do the trick :) .

What I did:
1. Make sure that all messages have correct status
2. Open accounts window, selected IMAP account in question, open
preferences window, go to "Receive" tab. "Bandwidth-efficient mode" was
*checked*.
3. Uncheck said option, save changes.

After restarting Claws-Mail and checking for new mails few times,
everything seems to be working fine now. Thanks!
I'll let you know if problem reappear in future.

But one question remains: how can I help Claws-Mail developers to debug
this issue, so Claws-Mail can be hardened against such issues in future?
Or is it not desired, as it probably related to one, not overly
popular, IMAP server?
-- 
Best regards
Mirosław Zalewski


From colin at colino.net  Thu Sep  5 18:07:09 2013
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 18:07:09 +0200
Subject: [Users] "Read" status reversed on IMAP account
In-Reply-To: <20130905175948.20eab3e2@pingwin>
References: <20130904190534.64922fa6@pingwin> <20130905171647.1a222abe@colin>
	<20130905175948.20eab3e2@pingwin>
Message-ID: <20130905180709.7d8dc82f@colin>

On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 17:59:48 +0200, Mirosław Zalewski
<miniopl at poczta.onet.pl> wrote:

> But one question remains: how can I help Claws-Mail developers to
> debug this issue, so Claws-Mail can be hardened against such issues
> in future? Or is it not desired, as it probably related to one, not
> overly popular, IMAP server?

You're indeed the first person to report this to us. But fixing it
would be nice. What you could do is capture a "claws-mail --debug" log,
when in the buggy mode, showing two subsequent openings of the same
folder (showing the reversal of the read flag).

--debug logs don't include credentials, but you might want to skim some
info out of them.

Thanks !
-- 
Colin


From colin at colino.net  Thu Sep  5 18:08:31 2013
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 18:08:31 +0200
Subject: [Users] Send later  question
In-Reply-To: <20130905085339.14889c42@frogguski.911networks.com>
References: <20130904110205.7c6d5ccd@frogguski.911networks.com>
	<20130905011845.13af9d3f@busgosu>
	<20130905123857.46a49352@thewildbeast>
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Message-ID: <20130905180831.21b019fe@colin>

On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 08:53:39 -0700, sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:

> Can you give me a cron example to send all the emails from the queue
> folder?

0 18 * * * claws-mail --send

Would flush queues at 18:00 each day.

Watch out, though, the Date header is added when queuing, so it'll show
the queuing Date, not the sending date.
-- 
Colin


From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Thu Sep  5 18:24:02 2013
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 09:24:02 -0700
Subject: [Users] Send later  question
In-Reply-To: <20130905180831.21b019fe@colin>
References: <20130904110205.7c6d5ccd@frogguski.911networks.com>
	<20130905011845.13af9d3f@busgosu>
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Message-ID: <20130905092402.1f947fb3@frogguski.911networks.com>

On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 18:08:31 +0200
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 08:53:39 -0700, sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:
>
>> Can you give me a cron example to send all the emails from the
>> queue folder?
>
>0 18 * * * claws-mail --send
>
>Would flush queues at 18:00 each day.
>
>Watch out, though, the Date header is added when queuing, so it'll
>show the queuing Date, not the sending date.

Perfect. 

1. I didn't realize that I could make it as generic. 
2. For single emails within the queue, I would use the message number?

-- 
Thanks
http://www.911networks.com
When the network has to work


From sylpheed-claws-users at lists.evervoid.net  Thu Sep  5 18:24:20 2013
From: sylpheed-claws-users at lists.evervoid.net (Stephan Braun)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 18:24:20 +0200
Subject: [Users] Send on check mail
In-Reply-To: <20130905101315.69692c54@ron.cerrocora.org>
References: <20130905101315.69692c54@ron.cerrocora.org>
Message-ID: <20130905182420.448ff73c@stargazer>



Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI (05.09.2013, 10:13:15):
>I remember I had a setting that allowed having the queued
>mail sent at the same time that the server was periodically queried to
>check and download new mail.
[…]
>I have not found a way to do the same in Claws; is there one ?

I don't know of such an option in CM, but you could use a small shell
script that contains these two lines:

claws-mail --send
claws-mail --receive-all

and use it as the external mail incorporation command:
Configuration->Preferences->Receiving->External incorporation program

Maybe there is a more elegant way, but this could work as a workaround.


swb


From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Thu Sep  5 18:33:50 2013
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 12:33:50 -0400
Subject: [Users] Send on check mail
In-Reply-To: <20130905101315.69692c54@ron.cerrocora.org>
References: <20130905101315.69692c54@ron.cerrocora.org>
Message-ID: <20130905123350.4a7f01eb@mydesk>

On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 10:13:15 -0400
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org> wrote:

> In days now gone, before I upgraded from KMail to Claws (and from KDE
> to XFCE) I remember I had a setting that allowed having the queued
> mail sent at the same time that the server was periodically queried
> to check and download new mail.
> 
> This was a boon, specially so in a country where we pay for every
> phone call, and the multiplication of dial-up calls singularly
> increases the phone bill.
> 
> I have not found a way to do the same in Claws; is there one ?
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Ron, on the banks of the Paraguay River.

Hi Ron,

First, congrats on a great move with email and with your desktop
environment.

I don't know a way to specifically send the queue on checking mail, but
if you develop a couple habits you can do the same thing just a little
more manually...

First, when emailing people, click the "send later" button instead of
the "send" button. This puts your newly created emails in the Queue
folder. Now, after you check your mail, highlight the Queue directory,
and from the menu, Message->Send_queued_messages.

The one downside of this is that Claws is single threaded and very
rarely spawns a new process to perform a task like sending mail or
downloading new emails, so Claws will probably become unusable while
sending. Unless...

What I would do to get maximum usage from Claws is to do things in this
order:

1) Get my new email
2) Click the Inbox folder
3) Messages->send_queued_messages
4) Within the Inbox, read your email
5) When the send finishes, read all other folders.

HTH,

SteveT

Steve Litt                *  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance


From miniopl at poczta.onet.pl  Thu Sep  5 19:02:45 2013
From: miniopl at poczta.onet.pl (=?UTF-8?B?TWlyb3PFgmF3?= Zalewski)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 19:02:45 +0200
Subject: [Users] "Read" status reversed on IMAP account
In-Reply-To: <20130905180709.7d8dc82f@colin>
References: <20130904190534.64922fa6@pingwin> <20130905171647.1a222abe@colin>
	<20130905175948.20eab3e2@pingwin> <20130905180709.7d8dc82f@colin>
Message-ID: <20130905190245.1a38818f@pingwin>

Dnia 2013-09-05, o godz. 18:07:09
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> napisał(a):

> You're indeed the first person to report this to us. But fixing it
> would be nice. What you could do is capture a "claws-mail --debug"
> log, when in the buggy mode, showing two subsequent openings of the
> same folder (showing the reversal of the read flag).

I got the log. It is over 500 kB in size, so I put it on my website:
<http://przepis-na-lo.pl/claws-mail-reverse-status.log>

What I did:
1. Install claws-mail-dbg from Debian repository, just in case
2. Check "bandwidth-efficient mode" for IMAP account in question
3. Uncheck "fetch new mails checks this account" for all accounts but
the one in question
4. Close Claws-Mail
5. run 'claws-mail --debug > claws-mail-reverse-status.log 2>&1'
6. "Read" status of all messages was inverted and first (automatic)
check for new mails bring it back to normal. I checked for new mails
again, so it inverted all of them and showed 2700 unread. Check for new
mails again to make it correct. Quit Claws-Mail.

I have removed e-mail addresses from log file. As far as I can tell,
e-mail address of account in question is not advertised anywhere on the
web and I would prefer it to stay this way (a little less spam to fight
with).

Hope that helps. If there is anything else I can do, just let me know.
-- 
Best regards
Mirosław Zalewski


From colin at colino.net  Thu Sep  5 22:34:44 2013
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 22:34:44 +0200
Subject: [Users] Send later  question
In-Reply-To: <20130905092402.1f947fb3@frogguski.911networks.com>
References: <20130904110205.7c6d5ccd@frogguski.911networks.com>
	<20130905011845.13af9d3f@busgosu>
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	<20130905092402.1f947fb3@frogguski.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20130905223444.106f8980@mike>

On 05 September 2013 at 09h24, sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:

Hi, 

> 1. I didn't realize that I could make it as generic. 
> 2. For single emails within the queue, I would use the message number?

No, there isn't so much granularity, it's either all or nothing...

-- 
Colin
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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Thu Sep  5 17:42:55 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:42:55 +0100
Subject: [Users] Subject Line Message
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On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 17:15:55 +0200
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

Hello Colin,

>:) More than a decade of mailing-lists usage made me thick-skinned! And

You've been on lists for longer than that, surely?  I know I have, but
even now, occasionally some people can 'get under my skin' sometimes.  I
try to ignore it, but am not always successful.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
Well I don't want you to think I'm being obscene
Fish - The Damned
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From sven_klages at web.de  Fri Sep  6 09:47:47 2013
From: sven_klages at web.de (Sven Klages)
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:47:47 +0200
Subject: [Users] Compiling Claws Mail 3.9.1/2 from scratch
In-Reply-To: <CAAX9WiW4ZeMS8XJnqe9gz+ZjwYw9MOQeOYZgtoAJA4LX8kXjBg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAX9WiX2MObcXPrzbCSfTy-RCmLNbEm17d2WzaL_Zm=-jG8Npg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130905130103.496cafc3@thewildbeast>
	<CAAX9WiVOvJ1On4kOkVNuM5=0u=W7JCq+0ArEHihksyLUm8Tupg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130905140943.7121b08a@thewildbeast>
	<CAAX9WiW4ZeMS8XJnqe9gz+ZjwYw9MOQeOYZgtoAJA4LX8kXjBg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAX9WiWUAcgx_47UvDmci1pL8S_PWOiDOSh+6xq7_QqJzQqrxA@mail.gmail.com>

OK, problem solved. It was indeed GNUTLS, which was too old. I just
compiled current CM with gnutls-3.2.4/nettle-2.7.1 .. works like a charm :-)

Maybe TLS version should be checked during configure ..

regards


2013/9/5 Sven Klages <sven_klages at web.de>

> #define GNUTLS_VERSION_NUMBER 0x020806
>
> sorry for going off-list, again on-list .. :-)
>
>
> 2013/9/5 Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>
>
>> On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 14:55:42 +0200
>> Sven Klages <sven_klages at web.de> wrote:
>>
>> > gnutls.h says:
>> >
>> > #define GNUTLS_VERSION "2.8.6"
>> >
>> > thanks
>>
>>
>> You've gone off-list, so we'll continue that way.
>>
>> I have a newer gnuTLS here and all is fine. (Apparently gnutls has
>> switched to libnettle at some version beyond 3, but that's can't be
>> the issue here.)
>>
>> What does GNUTLS_VERSION_NUMBER from the same file say?
>>
>> with regards
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> --
>> It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me,
>> but to a collector it is worth a fortune
>>
>
>
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Sep  6 10:08:49 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:08:49 +0100
Subject: [Users] Compiling Claws Mail 3.9.1/2 from scratch
In-Reply-To: <CAAX9WiWUAcgx_47UvDmci1pL8S_PWOiDOSh+6xq7_QqJzQqrxA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAX9WiX2MObcXPrzbCSfTy-RCmLNbEm17d2WzaL_Zm=-jG8Npg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130905130103.496cafc3@thewildbeast>
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Message-ID: <20130906090849.5d44fb38@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:47:47 +0200
Sven Klages <sven_klages at web.de> wrote: 

> Maybe TLS version should be checked during configure ..

It is, but for some reason your version, 2.8.6, did not satisfy
"gnutls >= 2.11". I don't suppose you still have a copy of your old
2.8.6 guntls.pc file?

BTW, please don't send your responses to me and the list. You must be
subscribed to post to the list, so I'll see your reply anyway if you
only send it to the list address.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Sep  6 10:15:52 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:15:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] Compiling Claws Mail 3.9.1/2 from scratch
In-Reply-To: <20130906090849.5d44fb38@thewildbeast>
References: <CAAX9WiX2MObcXPrzbCSfTy-RCmLNbEm17d2WzaL_Zm=-jG8Npg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:08:49 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote: 

> It is, but for some reason your version, 2.8.6, did not satisfy
> "gnutls >= 2.11". I don't suppose you still have a copy of your old
> 2.8.6 guntls.pc file?

That's not what I meant to say :) There must have been something
broken in your gnutls 2.8.6 installation. All versions of gnutls
older that 2.11 need to be linked to gcrypt, but your's was different
for some reason. Looks to me that the breakage is on your side and
not in Claws.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From sven_klages at web.de  Fri Sep  6 10:37:08 2013
From: sven_klages at web.de (Sven Klages)
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 10:37:08 +0200
Subject: [Users] Compiling Claws Mail 3.9.1/2 from scratch
In-Reply-To: <20130906090849.5d44fb38@thewildbeast>
References: <CAAX9WiX2MObcXPrzbCSfTy-RCmLNbEm17d2WzaL_Zm=-jG8Npg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130905130103.496cafc3@thewildbeast>
	<CAAX9WiVOvJ1On4kOkVNuM5=0u=W7JCq+0ArEHihksyLUm8Tupg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130905140943.7121b08a@thewildbeast>
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I do, https://ws.molgen.mpg.de/ws/105387/gnutls.pc

Now to the lost only, ... sorry.


2013/9/6 Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>

> On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:47:47 +0200
> Sven Klages <sven_klages at web.de> wrote:
>
> > Maybe TLS version should be checked during configure ..
>
> It is, but for some reason your version, 2.8.6, did not satisfy
> "gnutls >= 2.11". I don't suppose you still have a copy of your old
> 2.8.6 guntls.pc file?
>
> BTW, please don't send your responses to me and the list. You must be
> subscribed to post to the list, so I'll see your reply anyway if you
> only send it to the list address.
>
> with regards
>
> Paul
>
>
> --
> It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me,
> but to a collector it is worth a fortune
> _______________________________________________
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From: sven_klages at web.de (Sven Klages)
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 13:02:28 +0200
Subject: [Users] Compiling Claws Mail 3.9.1/2 from scratch
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	<CAAX9WiVOvJ1On4kOkVNuM5=0u=W7JCq+0ArEHihksyLUm8Tupg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130905140943.7121b08a@thewildbeast>
	<CAAX9WiW4ZeMS8XJnqe9gz+ZjwYw9MOQeOYZgtoAJA4LX8kXjBg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAX9WiWUAcgx_47UvDmci1pL8S_PWOiDOSh+6xq7_QqJzQqrxA@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130906090849.5d44fb38@thewildbeast>
	<20130906091552.03003beb@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <CAAX9WiXM9WnDp3MSnxaFH1HmdYT5XW3igvm6_0-84ojZamMT7w@mail.gmail.com>

Well, .. OK .. now I got it :-)

gnutls is about to be updated on all our systems. I'll check then ..

thanks for your help.


2013/9/6 Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>

> On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:08:49 +0100
> Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > It is, but for some reason your version, 2.8.6, did not satisfy
> > "gnutls >= 2.11". I don't suppose you still have a copy of your old
> > 2.8.6 guntls.pc file?
>
> That's not what I meant to say :) There must have been something
> broken in your gnutls 2.8.6 installation. All versions of gnutls
> older that 2.11 need to be linked to gcrypt, but your's was different
> for some reason. Looks to me that the breakage is on your side and
> not in Claws.
>
> with regards
>
> Paul
>
>
> --
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> but to a collector it is worth a fortune
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From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org  Fri Sep  6 13:43:26 2013
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron))
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 07:43:26 -0400
Subject: [Users] Send on check mail
In-Reply-To: <20130905182420.448ff73c@stargazer>
References: <20130905101315.69692c54@ron.cerrocora.org>
	<20130905182420.448ff73c@stargazer>
Message-ID: <20130906074326.5582883f@ron.cerrocora.org>

On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 18:24:20 +0200
"Stephan Braun" <sylpheed-claws-users at lists.evervoid.net> wrote:

> >I remember I had a setting that allowed having the queued
> >mail sent at the same time that the server was periodically queried to
> >check and download new mail.  
> […]
> >I have not found a way to do the same in Claws; is there one ?  

> I don't know of such an option in CM, but you could use a small shell
> script that contains these two lines:
> claws-mail --send
> claws-mail --receive-all
> and use it as the external mail incorporation command:
> Configuration->Preferences->Receiving->External incorporation program
> Maybe there is a more elegant way, but this could work as a workaround.

I think I may see how it works by disabling the automatic mail-checks in the accounts settings, and putting the following two lines in crontab:
	0 * * * * claws-mail --send
	1 * * * * claws-mail --receive-all
which should do the job every hour on the hour (to be tweaked later, to avoid phoning in the wee hours !)

Cheers,
 
Ron.
-- 
                Blessed is the man who, having nothing to say,
               abstains from giving wordy evidence of the fact.
                                                -- George Eliot
                                    
                   -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
 



From boudiccas at talktalk.net  Fri Sep  6 14:22:12 2013
From: boudiccas at talktalk.net (Sharon Kimble)
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 13:22:12 +0100
Subject: [Users] Send on check mail
In-Reply-To: <20130906074326.5582883f@ron.cerrocora.org>
References: <20130905101315.69692c54@ron.cerrocora.org>
	<20130905182420.448ff73c@stargazer>
	<20130906074326.5582883f@ron.cerrocora.org>
Message-ID: <20130906132212.2333d341@london>

On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 07:43:26 -0400
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 18:24:20 +0200
> "Stephan Braun" <sylpheed-claws-users at lists.evervoid.net> wrote:
> 
> > >I remember I had a setting that allowed having the queued
> > >mail sent at the same time that the server was periodically
> > >queried to check and download new mail.  
> > […]
> > >I have not found a way to do the same in Claws; is there one ?  
> 
> > I don't know of such an option in CM, but you could use a small
> > shell script that contains these two lines:
> > claws-mail --send
> > claws-mail --receive-all
> > and use it as the external mail incorporation command:
> > Configuration->Preferences->Receiving->External incorporation
> > program Maybe there is a more elegant way, but this could work as a
> > workaround.
> 
> I think I may see how it works by disabling the automatic mail-checks
> in the accounts settings, and putting the following two lines in
> crontab: 0 * * * * claws-mail --send 
>1 * * * * claws-mail
> --receive-all which should do the job every hour on the hour (to be
> tweaked later, to avoid phoning in the wee hours !)
> 
No, that’s wrong, the syntax goes like this ' Min Hour DoM Month DoW
Command' so yours never sends, and receives every minute! That’s not
what you want, according to you, you need - 
0 1 * * * /usr/bin/claws-mail --receive-all

Sharon. 
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From pf at pfortin.com  Fri Sep  6 15:00:04 2013
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:00:04 -0400
Subject: [Users] Send on check mail
In-Reply-To: <20130906074326.5582883f@ron.cerrocora.org>
References: <20130905101315.69692c54@ron.cerrocora.org>
	<20130905182420.448ff73c@stargazer>
	<20130906074326.5582883f@ron.cerrocora.org>
Message-ID: <20130906090004.21b5a030@pfortin.com>

On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 07:43:26 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:

>crontab:
>	0 * * * * claws-mail --send
>	1 * * * * claws-mail --receive-all
>which should do the job every hour on the hour (to be tweaked later, to
>avoid phoning in the wee hours !)

0 8-20 * * 1-5 claws-mail --send
1 8-20 * * Mon-Fri claws-mail --receive-all

will only trigger between 8am & 8pm Mon-Fri(1-5); whereas:

0 8-20/2 * * 1,3,5 ...

for every 2 hours (8am-8pm) on Mon,Wed,Fri

You might also try combining the commands:

0 8-20 * * 1-5 (claws-mail --send; claws-mail --receive-all)

to avoid possible double-dials at *:00 and *:01 -- hopefully, the
connection doesn't drop right after the --send...

HTH
Pierre


From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org  Fri Sep  6 15:10:41 2013
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron))
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:10:41 -0400
Subject: [Users] Send on check mail
In-Reply-To: <20130906090004.21b5a030@pfortin.com>
References: <20130905101315.69692c54@ron.cerrocora.org>
	<20130905182420.448ff73c@stargazer>
	<20130906074326.5582883f@ron.cerrocora.org>
	<20130906090004.21b5a030@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20130906091041.7488d937@ron.cerrocora.org>

On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:00:04 -0400
Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:

> You might also try combining the commands:
> 0 8-20 * * 1-5 (claws-mail --send; claws-mail --receive-all)
> to avoid possible double-dials at *:00 and *:01 -- hopefully, the
> connection doesn't drop right after the --send...

What about 
	0 8-20 * * 1-5 claws-mail --send && claws-mail --receive-all
to ensure the second part only runs if the first ahs succeeded ?
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
-- 
                   The ultimate ignorance is the rejection
                     of something you know nothing about
                          yet refuse to investigate
                                          -- Dr Wayne Dyer
                                    
                   -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
 



From pf at pfortin.com  Fri Sep  6 15:46:02 2013
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:46:02 -0400
Subject: [Users] Send on check mail
In-Reply-To: <20130906091041.7488d937@ron.cerrocora.org>
References: <20130905101315.69692c54@ron.cerrocora.org>
	<20130905182420.448ff73c@stargazer>
	<20130906074326.5582883f@ron.cerrocora.org>
	<20130906090004.21b5a030@pfortin.com>
	<20130906091041.7488d937@ron.cerrocora.org>
Message-ID: <20130906094602.65449a71@pfortin.com>

On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:10:41 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:

>On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:00:04 -0400
>Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:
>
>> You might also try combining the commands:
>> 0 8-20 * * 1-5 (claws-mail --send; claws-mail --receive-all)
>> to avoid possible double-dials at *:00 and *:01 -- hopefully, the
>> connection doesn't drop right after the --send...
>
>What about 
>	0 8-20 * * 1-5 claws-mail --send && claws-mail --receive-all
>to ensure the second part only runs if the first ahs succeeded ?

Sure... but does CM set a failure return code? Under what condition(s)?
No clue that I could find in quick search of CM docs...(?)

>Cheers,
> 
>Ron.

Pierre


From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org  Fri Sep  6 16:15:18 2013
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron))
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 10:15:18 -0400
Subject: [Users] Send on check mail
In-Reply-To: <20130906094602.65449a71@pfortin.com>
References: <20130905101315.69692c54@ron.cerrocora.org>
	<20130905182420.448ff73c@stargazer>
	<20130906074326.5582883f@ron.cerrocora.org>
	<20130906090004.21b5a030@pfortin.com>
	<20130906091041.7488d937@ron.cerrocora.org>
	<20130906094602.65449a71@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20130906101518.2f1e00ea@ron.cerrocora.org>

On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:46:02 -0400
Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:

> Sure... but does CM set a failure return code? Under what condition(s)?
> No clue that I could find in quick search of CM docs...(?)

No matter, really; and thanks for the kind help.
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
-- 
                         Lorsque rien n'est interdit,
                        nul ne sait ce qui est permis.
                 Nul ne connaît ni les limites de sa liberté,
                      ni les châtiments qui le menacent.
                    Il a donc intérèt à se faire oublier,
                        à être prudent, très prudent.
                                      -- Gilbert Lascault
                                    
                   -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
 



From amadeus84 at verizon.net  Sat Sep  7 04:07:47 2013
From: amadeus84 at verizon.net (Amadeus W.M.)
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 02:07:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Users] problems sending email from secondary account
Message-ID: <pan.2013.09.07.02.07.55@verizon.net>

Apologies if this is a known bug. I have a problem in claws that does not 
exist in evolution, so I believe it is a claws bug. 

Here it is: I have one account with verizon - my ISP - and I can send and 
receive email with claws with no problems from that account. Then I have 
a second account also with verizon, for less official email (mailing 
lists, shopping, whatever). I configured this secondary account in claws 
by cloning the first one and making the appropriate changes. I can 
receive email in this secondary account, but I can't send any message due 
to some authentication error. This is the log: 

* Account 'amadeus84 at incoming.verizon.net:995': Connecting to SMTP 
server: outgoing.verizon.net:465...
[21:59:23] SMTP< 220 vms173007pub.verizon.net -- Server ESMTP (Sun Java
(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009))
[21:59:23] ESMTP> EHLO alpha
[21:59:23] ESMTP< 250-vms173007pub.verizon.net
[21:59:23] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME
[21:59:23] ESMTP< 250-PIPELINING
[21:59:23] ESMTP< 250-CHUNKING
[21:59:23] ESMTP< 250-DSN
[21:59:23] ESMTP< 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
[21:59:23] ESMTP< 250-HELP
[21:59:23] ESMTP< 250-XLOOP AD6DF29B04183351BAD9935B9A483ABE
[21:59:23] ESMTP< 250-AUTH DIGEST-MD5 PLAIN LOGIN CRAM-MD5
[21:59:23] ESMTP< 250-AUTH=LOGIN PLAIN
[21:59:23] ESMTP< 250-ETRN
[21:59:23] ESMTP< 250-NO-SOLICITING
[21:59:23] ESMTP< 250 SIZE 20971520
[21:59:23] ESMTP> AUTH CRAM-MD5
[21:59:23] ESMTP< 334 PDIxMzkwNDk5Ny4yNzg3NTMzQHZtczE3MzAwNz4=
[21:59:23] ESMTP< [Decoded: <213904997.2787533 at vms173007>]
[21:59:23] ESMTP> [Encoded: amadeus84 bf56c0bb9f2d0798f65b767291f9c344]
[21:59:23] ESMTP> YW1hZGV1czg0IGJmNTZjMGJiOWYyZDA3OThmNjViNzY3MjkxZjljMzQ0
[21:59:23] ESMTP< 500 5.7.0 Unknown AUTH error -1 (Internal 
authentication error).
** error occurred on SMTP session
*** Error occurred while sending the message:
500 5.7.0 Unknown AUTH error -1 (Internal authentication error).



So they are clones of each other, both accounts can receive email but one 
can send, the other can't. 

Any thoughts? 

Thanks!



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Sep  7 08:49:40 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 07:49:40 +0100
Subject: [Users] problems sending email from secondary account
In-Reply-To: <pan.2013.09.07.02.07.55@verizon.net>
References: <pan.2013.09.07.02.07.55@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <20130907074940.5f6ac04d@thewildbeast>

On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 02:07:47 +0000 (UTC)
"Amadeus W.M." <amadeus84 at verizon.net> wrote: 

> So they are clones of each other, both accounts can receive email
> but one can send, the other can't. 

Probably there is a difference between the configuration of the 2
accounts. Check the SMTP Auth settings of the one that fails. If you
don't find anything, send the debug info for both the one that works
and the one that doesn't work.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From amadeus84 at verizon.net  Mon Sep  9 03:57:57 2013
From: amadeus84 at verizon.net (Amadeus W.M.)
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 01:57:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Users] problems sending email from secondary account
References: <pan.2013.09.07.02.07.55@verizon.net>
	<20130907074940.5f6ac04d@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <pan.2013.09.09.01.58.05@verizon.net>

On Sat, 07 Sep 2013 07:49:40 +0100, Paul 
wrote:

> On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 02:07:47 +0000 (UTC)
> "Amadeus W.M." <amadeus84 at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
>> So they are clones of each other, both accounts can receive email but
>> one can send, the other can't.
> 
> Probably there is a difference between the configuration of the 2
> accounts. Check the SMTP Auth settings of the one that fails. If you
> don't find anything, send the debug info for both the one that works and
> the one that doesn't work.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul


By debug info you mean the log, or it's something different? If 
different, I don't know where it is.

Also, where does claws store its login information, maybe my username/
password are not stored properly. Although that's unlikely, given that I 
can receive email just fine.




From pf at pfortin.com  Mon Sep  9 05:58:12 2013
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 23:58:12 -0400
Subject: [Users] problems sending email from secondary account
In-Reply-To: <pan.2013.09.09.01.58.05@verizon.net>
References: <pan.2013.09.07.02.07.55@verizon.net>
	<20130907074940.5f6ac04d@thewildbeast>
	<pan.2013.09.09.01.58.05@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <20130908235812.50ccafda@pfortin.com>

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 01:57:57 +0000 (UTC) Amadeus W.M. wrote:

>Also, where does claws store its login information, maybe my username/
>password are not stored properly. Although that's unlikely, given that I 
>can receive email just fine.

Configuration->EditAccounts, Edit->Send

If User ID and Password are non-empty (could be the problem), just clear
them; that will use the info from the Receive fields.

HTH,
Pierre


From amadeus84 at verizon.net  Mon Sep  9 06:07:08 2013
From: amadeus84 at verizon.net (Amadeus W.M.)
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 04:07:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Users] problems sending email from secondary account
References: <pan.2013.09.07.02.07.55@verizon.net>
	<20130907074940.5f6ac04d@thewildbeast>
	<pan.2013.09.09.01.58.05@verizon.net>
	<20130908235812.50ccafda@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2013.09.09.04.07.17@verizon.net>

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 23:58:12 -0400, Pierre Fortin wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 01:57:57 +0000 (UTC) Amadeus W.M. wrote:
> 
>>Also, where does claws store its login information, maybe my username/
>>password are not stored properly. Although that's unlikely, given that I
>>can receive email just fine.
> 
> Configuration->EditAccounts, Edit->Send
> 
> If User ID and Password are non-empty (could be the problem), just clear
> them; that will use the info from the Receive fields.
> 
> HTH,
> Pierre

I tried that and it didn't work. That's why it's so puzzling. In the 
account that works they are not empty.




From pf at pfortin.com  Mon Sep  9 06:22:35 2013
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 00:22:35 -0400
Subject: [Users] problems sending email from secondary account
In-Reply-To: <pan.2013.09.09.04.07.17@verizon.net>
References: <pan.2013.09.07.02.07.55@verizon.net>
	<20130907074940.5f6ac04d@thewildbeast>
	<pan.2013.09.09.01.58.05@verizon.net>
	<20130908235812.50ccafda@pfortin.com>
	<pan.2013.09.09.04.07.17@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <20130909002235.196f2410@pfortin.com>

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 04:07:08 +0000 (UTC) Amadeus W.M. wrote:

>I tried that and it didn't work. That's why it's so puzzling. In the 
>account that works they are not empty.

Any chance SMTP AUTH is not checked on the Send panel?


From amadeus84 at verizon.net  Mon Sep  9 06:42:49 2013
From: amadeus84 at verizon.net (Amadeus W.M.)
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 04:42:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Users] problems sending email from secondary account
References: <pan.2013.09.07.02.07.55@verizon.net>
	<20130907074940.5f6ac04d@thewildbeast>
	<pan.2013.09.09.01.58.05@verizon.net>
	<20130908235812.50ccafda@pfortin.com>
	<pan.2013.09.09.04.07.17@verizon.net>
	<20130909002235.196f2410@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2013.09.09.04.42.57@verizon.net>

On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 00:22:35 -0400, Pierre Fortin wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 04:07:08 +0000 (UTC) Amadeus W.M. wrote:
> 
>>I tried that and it didn't work. That's why it's so puzzling. In the
>>account that works they are not empty.
> 
> Any chance SMTP AUTH is not checked on the Send panel?


It is checked.

I suspect everything looks ok in the gui, but when I save the settings 
something is not properly saved. 




From pf at pfortin.com  Mon Sep  9 06:44:21 2013
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 00:44:21 -0400
Subject: [Users] problems sending email from secondary account
In-Reply-To: <pan.2013.09.09.01.58.05@verizon.net>
References: <pan.2013.09.07.02.07.55@verizon.net>
	<20130907074940.5f6ac04d@thewildbeast>
	<pan.2013.09.09.01.58.05@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <20130909004421.5a7fe18c@pfortin.com>

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 01:57:57 +0000 (UTC) Amadeus W.M. wrote:

>By debug info you mean the log, or it's something different? If 
>different, I don't know where it is.

Use either:
   $ claws-mail --debug &
and copy&paste console output; or:
   $ claws-mail --debug &> /tmp/debug.log
and provide the file.

The first option lets you hit Enter on the console when CM has finished
initializing, then try a send and copy just the new output.  The file
option will have everything, so much larger.

My previous question:
>Any chance SMTP AUTH is not checked on the Send panel?
is not likely...  It's late and I'm ready for sleep...  :/


From pf at pfortin.com  Mon Sep  9 06:56:36 2013
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 00:56:36 -0400
Subject: [Users] problems sending email from secondary account
In-Reply-To: <pan.2013.09.09.04.42.57@verizon.net>
References: <pan.2013.09.07.02.07.55@verizon.net>
	<20130907074940.5f6ac04d@thewildbeast>
	<pan.2013.09.09.01.58.05@verizon.net>
	<20130908235812.50ccafda@pfortin.com>
	<pan.2013.09.09.04.07.17@verizon.net>
	<20130909002235.196f2410@pfortin.com>
	<pan.2013.09.09.04.42.57@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <20130909005636.3adf6b8a@pfortin.com>

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 04:42:49 +0000 (UTC) Amadeus W.M. wrote:

>I suspect everything looks ok in the gui, but when I save the settings 
>something is not properly saved. 

Then you should see a difference in ~/.claws-mail/accountrc at lines
beginning with:
  user_id=
  password=
versus:
  smtp_user_id=
  smtp_password=
which could explain the failure.

Mine have the same userid and obfuscated password in each set.  If both
sets are identical in yours, then you may have an odd bug...  



From pf at pfortin.com  Mon Sep  9 07:11:38 2013
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 01:11:38 -0400
Subject: [Users] problems sending email from secondary account
In-Reply-To: <pan.2013.09.07.02.07.55@verizon.net>
References: <pan.2013.09.07.02.07.55@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <20130909011138.75f9f481@pfortin.com>

On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 02:07:47 +0000 (UTC) Amadeus W.M. wrote:

>* Account 'amadeus84 at incoming.verizon.net:995': Connecting to SMTP 
>server:  outgoing.verizon.net:465...

Is this right?

http://www.verizon.com/Support/Residential/Internet/highspeed/email/setup+and+use/questionsone/86782.htm
says the servers are pop.verizon.net:995 and smtp.verizon.net:465

incoming.verizon.net 206.46.232.10
outgoing.verizon.net 206.46.232.12
pop.verizon.net 206.46.232.132
smtp.verizon.net 206.46.232.100

Also, shouldn't the account be amadeus84 at verizon.net (without
"incoming.")?


From sven_klages at web.de  Mon Sep  9 09:37:01 2013
From: sven_klages at web.de (Sven Klages)
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 09:37:01 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.9.2 (Linux) crashes when accessing NNTP account
Message-ID: <CAAX9WiVzXmQCzR-Y8J33wfKVQf_NytSU9cvhYw=wknrnj57etg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I successfully compiled CM here, but now I'm  facing the problem that CM is
crashing with a "Segmentation fault" when accessing my news account (NNTP).
I don't use SSL for this connection. Any hint how to isolate the underlying
problem? IMAP works just fine, just as RSS (plugin) does.

thanks.
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From boudiccas at talktalk.net  Mon Sep  9 12:53:40 2013
From: boudiccas at talktalk.net (Sharon Kimble)
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:53:40 +0100
Subject: [Users] Missing python.so
Message-ID: <20130909115340.69efd70e@london>

I compiled CM-3.9.2-89-g9ba669-dirty this morning from the git repo, it
installed okay no problems, but when I come to associate the plugins
with their 'foo.so' its missing 'python.so'! I do have an old one
in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/claws-mail/plugins/python.so
but this CM wont load it saying its too old. Just thought I'd let you
know, and we'll see if this can still function without it.

Thanks
Sharon.
-- 
A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk
efever = http://www.efever.blogspot.com/
efever = http://sharon04.livejournal.com/
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep  9 13:05:42 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:05:42 +0100
Subject: [Users] Missing python.so
In-Reply-To: <20130909115340.69efd70e@london>
References: <20130909115340.69efd70e@london>
Message-ID: <20130909120542.429659f7@thewildbeast>

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:53:40 +0100
Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote: 

> I compiled CM-3.9.2-89-g9ba669-dirty this morning from the git
> repo, it installed okay no problems, but when I come to associate
> the plugins with their 'foo.so' its missing 'python.so'! I do have
> an old one in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/claws-mail/plugins/python.so
> but this CM wont load it saying its too old. Just thought I'd let
> you know, and we'll see if this can still function without it.

Maybe you installed into /usr/local/ rather than /usr/

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From boudiccas at talktalk.net  Mon Sep  9 13:43:00 2013
From: boudiccas at talktalk.net (Sharon Kimble)
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:43:00 +0100
Subject: [Users] Missing python.so
In-Reply-To: <20130909120542.429659f7@thewildbeast>
References: <20130909115340.69efd70e@london>
	<20130909120542.429659f7@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20130909124300.30b65718@london>

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:05:42 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 11:53:40 +0100
> Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote: 
> 
> > I compiled CM-3.9.2-89-g9ba669-dirty this morning from the git
> > repo, it installed okay no problems, but when I come to associate
> > the plugins with their 'foo.so' its missing 'python.so'! I do have
> > an old one in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/claws-mail/plugins/python.so
> > but this CM wont load it saying its too old. Just thought I'd let
> > you know, and we'll see if this can still function without it.
> 
> Maybe you installed into /usr/local/ rather than /usr/
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
I went with the default for this installation, which
was /usr/local/bin, and there was an old claws-mail in /usr/bin which
I've deleted. But its made no difference, its still missing python.so,
which it reminds you of every time claws-mail is started. 

Thanks
Sharon.
-- 
A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk
efever = http://www.efever.blogspot.com/
efever = http://sharon04.livejournal.com/
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep  9 13:53:01 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:53:01 +0100
Subject: [Users] Missing python.so
In-Reply-To: <20130909124300.30b65718@london>
References: <20130909115340.69efd70e@london>
	<20130909120542.429659f7@thewildbeast>
	<20130909124300.30b65718@london>
Message-ID: <20130909125301.0112efbf@thewildbeast>

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:43:00 +0100
Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote: 

> I went with the default for this installation, which
> was /usr/local/bin, and there was an old claws-mail in /usr/bin
> which I've deleted. But its made no difference, its still missing
> python.so, which it reminds you of every time claws-mail is
> started. 

Did you actually build and install the python plugin? Looks like this
last time you didn't, but you still have the config in place that is
trying to load it. Whatever the problem is, it is local to your
machine.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From boudiccas at talktalk.net  Mon Sep  9 14:02:22 2013
From: boudiccas at talktalk.net (Sharon Kimble)
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 13:02:22 +0100
Subject: [Users] Missing python.so
In-Reply-To: <20130909125301.0112efbf@thewildbeast>
References: <20130909115340.69efd70e@london>
	<20130909120542.429659f7@thewildbeast>
	<20130909124300.30b65718@london>
	<20130909125301.0112efbf@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20130909130222.73a5ab7e@london>

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:53:01 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:43:00 +0100
> Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote: 
> 
> > I went with the default for this installation, which
> > was /usr/local/bin, and there was an old claws-mail in /usr/bin
> > which I've deleted. But its made no difference, its still missing
> > python.so, which it reminds you of every time claws-mail is
> > started. 
> 
> Did you actually build and install the python plugin? Looks like this
> last time you didn't, but you still have the config in place that is
> trying to load it. Whatever the problem is, it is local to your
> machine.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> 
I went with the defaults from the git repo, I don't mess with the
installation and building. I'll try removing this version and compiling
again. I'll also nuke the downloaded repo and get a fresh install of it.

Thanks
Sharon.
-- 
A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk
efever = http://www.efever.blogspot.com/
efever = http://sharon04.livejournal.com/
Debian testing, Fluxbox 1.3.5, LibreOffice 4.1.0.4
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From boudiccas at talktalk.net  Mon Sep  9 14:32:34 2013
From: boudiccas at talktalk.net (Sharon Kimble)
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 13:32:34 +0100
Subject: [Users] Missing python.so
In-Reply-To: <20130909130222.73a5ab7e@london>
References: <20130909115340.69efd70e@london>
	<20130909120542.429659f7@thewildbeast>
	<20130909124300.30b65718@london>
	<20130909125301.0112efbf@thewildbeast>
	<20130909130222.73a5ab7e@london>
Message-ID: <20130909133234.0ebd8553@london>

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 13:02:22 +0100
Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:53:01 +0100
> Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:43:00 +0100
> > Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote: 
> > 
> > > I went with the default for this installation, which
> > > was /usr/local/bin, and there was an old claws-mail in /usr/bin
> > > which I've deleted. But its made no difference, its still missing
> > > python.so, which it reminds you of every time claws-mail is
> > > started. 
> > 
> > Did you actually build and install the python plugin? Looks like
> > this last time you didn't, but you still have the config in place
> > that is trying to load it. Whatever the problem is, it is local to
> > your machine.
> > 
> > with regards
> > 
> > Paul
> > 
> I went with the defaults from the git repo, I don't mess with the
> installation and building. I'll try removing this version and
> compiling again. I'll also nuke the downloaded repo and get a fresh
> install of it.
> 
> Thanks
> Sharon.

It turns out that I was missing a python dependency, which using
'apt-get build-dep claws-mail' sorted it. I've now built CM version
3.9.2-86-gf02d1a, so I'm a happy bunny again! :)

Thanks
Sharon.
-- 
A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk
efever = http://www.efever.blogspot.com/
efever = http://sharon04.livejournal.com/
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From amadeus84 at verizon.net  Tue Sep 10 02:58:00 2013
From: amadeus84 at verizon.net (Amadeus W.M.)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 00:58:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Users] problems sending email from secondary account
References: <pan.2013.09.07.02.07.55@verizon.net>
	<20130909011138.75f9f481@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2013.09.10.00.58.09@verizon.net>

On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 01:11:38 -0400, Pierre Fortin wrote:

> On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 02:07:47 +0000 (UTC) Amadeus W.M. wrote:
> 
>>* Account 'amadeus84 at incoming.verizon.net:995': Connecting to SMTP
>>server:  outgoing.verizon.net:465...
> 
> Is this right?
> 
> http://www.verizon.com/Support/Residential/Internet/highspeed/email/
setup+and+use/questionsone/86782.htm
> says the servers are pop.verizon.net:995 and smtp.verizon.net:465
> 
> incoming.verizon.net 206.46.232.10 outgoing.verizon.net 206.46.232.12
> pop.verizon.net 206.46.232.132 smtp.verizon.net 206.46.232.100
> 
> Also, shouldn't the account be amadeus84 at verizon.net (without
> "incoming.")?


Good catch! That did it, the server names, that is. I've always been 
using incoming.verizon.net and ougoing.verizon.net and in fact I still 
have them that way in my working claws account. Switching to 
pop.verizon.net and smtp.verizon.net made my amadeus account work. 

Still not sure how my working account works with incoming/outgoing, I'll 
run claws --debug to see if I can figure it out for my own curiosity. 

Thank so much you for the perseverance!Now I don't have to re-create all 
my filter rules in evolution, I can keep using claws-mail.

Out of curiosity, is there a way to export the filter rules and the 
directories from claws to evolution?






From ricardo at mones.org  Tue Sep 10 10:41:20 2013
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 10:41:20 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.9.2 (Linux) crashes when accessing NNTP
 account
In-Reply-To: <CAAX9WiVzXmQCzR-Y8J33wfKVQf_NytSU9cvhYw=wknrnj57etg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAX9WiVzXmQCzR-Y8J33wfKVQf_NytSU9cvhYw=wknrnj57etg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20130910084120.GA21263@trasgu>

  Hi,

On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 09:37:01AM +0200, Sven Klages wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I successfully compiled CM here, but now I'm  facing the problem that CM is
> crashing with a "Segmentation fault" when accessing my news account (NNTP).
> I don't use SSL for this connection. Any hint how to isolate the underlying
> problem? IMAP works just fine, just as RSS (plugin) does.

  http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Debugging_Claws

  regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  RTFM - "Read The Manual" (The 'F' is silent). Usually a very good 
  idea.                                             Bjarne Stroustrup

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From sven_klages at web.de  Tue Sep 10 14:28:41 2013
From: sven_klages at web.de (Sven Klages)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 14:28:41 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.9.2 (Linux) crashes when accessing NNTP
	account
In-Reply-To: <20130910084120.GA21263@trasgu>
References: <CAAX9WiVzXmQCzR-Y8J33wfKVQf_NytSU9cvhYw=wknrnj57etg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130910084120.GA21263@trasgu>
Message-ID: <CAAX9WiUTMY4m0o2G_t85_SQ1eBVTEZqH44xvvb+1-WqB9ymAMQ@mail.gmail.com>

ah, .. thanks for pointing to the FAQ ..

regards,
Sven


2013/9/10 Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>

>   Hi,
>
> On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 09:37:01AM +0200, Sven Klages wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I successfully compiled CM here, but now I'm  facing the problem that CM
> is
> > crashing with a "Segmentation fault" when accessing my news account
> (NNTP).
> > I don't use SSL for this connection. Any hint how to isolate the
> underlying
> > problem? IMAP works just fine, just as RSS (plugin) does.
>
>   http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Debugging_Claws
>
>   regards,
> --
>   Ricardo Mones
>   ~
>   RTFM - "Read The Manual" (The 'F' is silent). Usually a very good
>   idea.                                             Bjarne Stroustrup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
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From gerard.breiner at ias.u-psud.fr  Tue Sep 10 14:48:41 2013
From: gerard.breiner at ias.u-psud.fr (Gerard Breiner)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 14:48:41 +0200
Subject: [Users] Vcalendar : How to subscribe to a calendar that require
	authentication ?
Message-ID: <73EEC8B2-6843-46A1-BCDC-BE1FAE5013B1@ias.u-psud.fr>

Hello,

It is my first message on this list so I thank you for Claws-mail and plugins… However I try to use Claws-mail/Vcalendar for subscribing to a calendar (horde/kronolith) that require an authentication. Is it possible to do that  and how to ?

Thanks for help.

Best regards
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From ricardo at mones.org  Tue Sep 10 15:59:50 2013
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:59:50 +0200
Subject: [Users] Vcalendar : How to subscribe to a calendar that require
 authentication ?
In-Reply-To: <73EEC8B2-6843-46A1-BCDC-BE1FAE5013B1@ias.u-psud.fr>
References: <73EEC8B2-6843-46A1-BCDC-BE1FAE5013B1@ias.u-psud.fr>
Message-ID: <20130910135950.GB21263@trasgu>

  Hi,

On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 02:48:41PM +0200, Gerard Breiner wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> It is my first message on this list so I thank you for Claws-mail 
> and plugins… 

  You're welcome!

> However I try to use Claws-mail/Vcalendar for subscribing to a
> calendar (horde/kronolith) that require an authentication. Is it
> possible to do that  and how to ?

  Yes, it's possible, like any other URL¹
  And yes, is not recommended, but the bug is already fixed² ;-)

  regards,

¹http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2396#section-3.2.2
²http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2782
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but 
  that's not why we do it.                            Richard Feynman

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep 10 16:06:54 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 14:06:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3000] New: CM (installed on NFS mount) crashes when
 accessing subscribed newsgroup in NNTP account
Message-ID: <bug-3000-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3000

            Bug ID: 3000
           Summary: CM (installed on NFS mount) crashes when accessing
                    subscribed newsgroup in NNTP account
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: critical
          Priority: P3
         Component: NNTP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: sven_klages at web.de

When running compiled CM from an NFS mount and trying to access subscribed
newsgroups of the NNTP account, it segfaults. Doing the same on a "local
installation" (local disks on workstation) works just fine!?

Trace back:

folderview.c:2111:newly selected 0xff8fa0, opened (nil)
folderview.c:2157:Folder comp.lang.perl.misc is selected
folderview.c:2173:Opening folder comp.lang.perl.misc...
folder.c:2157:Scanning folder comp.lang.perl.misc for cache changes.
** Message: Account 'Usenet (DO NOT USE)': Connecting to NNTP server:
news.molgen.mpg.de:119...

[New Thread 0x7fffde304700 (LWP 17429)]
nntp-thread.c:248:found nntp 0xb47de0

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[Switching to Thread 0x7fffde304700 (LWP 17429)]
0x000000550000068f in ?? ()
(gdb) 
(gdb) 
(gdb) 
(gdb) thread apply all bt

Thread 3 (Thread 0x7fffde304700 (LWP 17429)):
#0  0x000000550000068f in ?? ()
#1  0x00007ffff2abb654 in mailstream_logger_internal (s=0x7fffd00009e0,
buf=0x7fffd0000a80, count=Unhandled dwarf expression opcode 0xf3
) at mailstream_low.c:407
#2  mailstream_low_read (s=0x7fffd00009e0, buf=0x7fffd0000a80, count=Unhandled
dwarf expression opcode 0xf3
) at mailstream_low.c:231
#3  0x00007ffff2abcb38 in mailstream_feed_read_buffer (s=0x7fffd0000a20) at
mailstream.c:322
#4  0x00007ffff2ababf0 in mailstream_read_line_append (stream=0x7fffd0000a20,
line=0xb27c00) at mailstream_helper.c:101
#5  0x00007ffff2abac79 in mailstream_read_line_remove_eol (stream=Unhandled
dwarf expression opcode 0xf3
) at mailstream_helper.c:116
#6  0x00007ffff2af4399 in read_line (f=0xb47de0, s=Unhandled dwarf expression
opcode 0xf3
) at newsnntp.c:1832
#7  newsnntp_connect (f=0xb47de0, s=Unhandled dwarf expression opcode 0xf3
) at newsnntp.c:195
#8  0x000000000061ed21 in connect_run (op=0xb47790) at nntp-thread.c:334
#9  0x0000000000647749 in thread_run (data=0xb28390) at
etpan-thread-manager.c:351
#10 0x00007ffff3a2ff5a in start_thread (arg=0x7fffde304700) at
pthread_create.c:305
#11 0x00007ffff1a33d1d in clone () at
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:115

Thread 2 (Thread 0x7fffdee0b700 (LWP 17426)):
#0  pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at
../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:166
#1  0x00007ffff2ac0133 in mailsem_internal_wait (s=0xea9390) at mailsem.c:121
#2  0x000000000064769f in thread_run (data=0xfe3270) at
etpan-thread-manager.c:331
#3  0x00007ffff3a2ff5a in start_thread (arg=0x7fffdee0b700) at
pthread_create.c:305
#4  0x00007ffff1a33d1d in clone () at
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:115

Thread 1 (Thread 0x7fffed5bf900 (LWP 17425)):
#0  0x00007ffff1a2acdf in __poll (fds=Unhandled dwarf expression opcode 0xf3
) at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c:87
#1  0x00007ffff32e32b4 in g_main_context_poll (context=0xbb3290,
block=Unhandled dwarf expression opcode 0xf3
) at /scratch/local/bee-root/glib2/glib2-2.34.0-0/source/glib/gmain.c:3584
#2  g_main_context_iterate (context=0xbb3290, block=Unhandled dwarf expression
opcode 0xf3
) at /scratch/local/bee-root/glib2/glib2-2.34.0-0/source/glib/gmain.c:3285
#3  0x00007ffff32e33d4 in g_main_context_iteration (context=0xbb3290,
may_block=1) at
/scratch/local/bee-root/glib2/glib2-2.34.0-0/source/glib/gmain.c:3351
#4  0x00007ffff7094c21 in IA__gtk_main_iteration () at
/scratch/local/bee-root/gtk2/gtk2-2.24.13-0/source/gtk/gtkmain.c:1345
#5  0x000000000061ec8b in threaded_run (folder=0x1052b50, param=0x7fffffff4bc0,
result=0x7fffffff4bb0, func=0x61ecc1 <connect_run>) at nntp-thread.c:292
#6  0x000000000061ee2c in nntp_threaded_connect (folder=0x1052b50,
server=0xed9a60 "news.molgen.mpg.de", port=119) at nntp-thread.c:369
#7  0x000000000050ff1f in news_session_new (folder=0x1052b50, server=0xed9a60
"news.molgen.mpg.de", port=119, userid=0x0, passwd=0x0, ssl_type=SSL_NONE) at
news.c:353
#8  0x00000000005101e3 in news_session_new_for_folder (folder=0x1052b50) at
news.c:384
#9  0x0000000000510763 in news_session_get (folder=0x1052b50) at news.c:497
#10 0x00000000005129e0 in news_get_num_list (folder=0x1052b50, item=0x1053ed0,
msgnum_list=0x7fffffff9e48, old_uids_valid=0x7fffffff9e44) at news.c:1042
#11 0x0000000000499f63 in folder_item_scan_full (item=0x1053ed0, filtering=1)
at folder.c:2160
#12 0x0000000000499528 in folder_item_process_open (item=0x1053ed0,
before_proc_func=0, after_proc_func=0, data=0x0) at folder.c:2009
#13 0x00000000004996af in folder_item_open (item=0x1053ed0) at folder.c:2044
#14 0x00000000004ace70 in folderview_selected (ctree=0xba13e0, row=0xff8fa0,
column=-1, folderview=0xd6bce0) at folderview.c:2182
#15 0x00000000006b47b3 in claws_marshal_VOID__POINTER_INT (closure=0xd75250,
return_value=0x0, n_param_values=3, param_values=0x7fffffffa320,
invocation_hint=0x7fffffffa2c0, 
    marshal_data=0x0) at claws-marshal.c:348
#16 0x00007ffff35cdbe0 in g_closure_invoke (closure=0xd75250, return_value=0x0,
n_param_values=3, param_values=0x7fffffffa320, invocation_hint=0x7fffffffa2c0)
    at
/scratch/local/bee-root/glib2/glib2-2.34.0-0/source/gobject/gclosure.c:777
#17 0x00007ffff35def70 in signal_emit_unlocked_R (node=Unhandled dwarf
expression opcode 0xf3
) at /scratch/local/bee-root/glib2/glib2-2.34.0-0/source/gobject/gsignal.c:3551
#18 0x00007ffff35e6d77 in g_signal_emit_valist (instance=0xba13e0,
signal_id=Unhandled dwarf expression opcode 0xf3
) at /scratch/local/bee-root/glib2/glib2-2.34.0-0/source/gobject/gsignal.c:3300
#19 0x00007ffff35e6f92 in g_signal_emit (instance=Unhandled dwarf expression
opcode 0xf3
) at /scratch/local/bee-root/glib2/glib2-2.34.0-0/source/gobject/gsignal.c:3356
#20 0x000000000066e3c9 in gtk_cmctree_select (ctree=0xba13e0, node=0xff8fa0) at
gtkcmctree.c:3903
#21 0x0000000000668454 in real_unselect_all (clist=0xba13e0) at
gtkcmctree.c:2881
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
#22 0x0000000000697915 in gtk_sctree_real_unselect_all (clist=0xba13e0) at
gtksctree.c:792
#23 0x0000000000684ff3 in gtk_cmclist_unselect_all (clist=0xba13e0) at
gtkcmclist.c:3666
#24 0x000000000069620c in select_row (sctree=0xba13e0, row=26, col=1, state=16,
_node=0x0) at gtksctree.c:383
#25 0x0000000000696cfe in gtk_sctree_button_press (widget=0xba13e0,
event=0x10dd590) at gtksctree.c:554
#26 0x00007ffff7097319 in _gtk_marshal_BOOLEAN__BOXED (closure=0xb8f7f0,
return_value=0x7fffffffd9f0, n_param_values=Unhandled dwarf expression opcode
0xf3
)
    at
/scratch/local/bee-root/gtk2/gtk2-2.24.13-0/source/gtk/gtkmarshalers.c:86
#27 0x00007ffff35cdbe0 in g_closure_invoke (closure=0xb8f7f0,
return_value=0x7fffffffd9f0, n_param_values=2, param_values=0x7fffffffdaa0,
invocation_hint=0x7fffffffda40)
    at
/scratch/local/bee-root/glib2/glib2-2.34.0-0/source/gobject/gclosure.c:777
#28 0x00007ffff35decf0 in signal_emit_unlocked_R (node=Unhandled dwarf
expression opcode 0xf3
) at /scratch/local/bee-root/glib2/glib2-2.34.0-0/source/gobject/gsignal.c:3589
#29 0x00007ffff35e6a1b in g_signal_emit_valist (instance=0xba13e0,
signal_id=Unhandled dwarf expression opcode 0xf3
) at /scratch/local/bee-root/glib2/glib2-2.34.0-0/source/gobject/gsignal.c:3310
#30 0x00007ffff35e6f92 in g_signal_emit (instance=Unhandled dwarf expression
opcode 0xf3
) at /scratch/local/bee-root/glib2/glib2-2.34.0-0/source/gobject/gsignal.c:3356
#31 0x00007ffff71af15e in gtk_widget_event_internal (widget=0xba13e0,
event=0x10dd590) at
/scratch/local/bee-root/gtk2/gtk2-2.24.13-0/source/gtk/gtkwidget.c:5010
#32 0x00007ffff70956b4 in IA__gtk_propagate_event (widget=0xba13e0,
event=0x10dd590) at
/scratch/local/bee-root/gtk2/gtk2-2.24.13-0/source/gtk/gtkmain.c:2490
#33 0x00007ffff7095a0b in IA__gtk_main_do_event (event=0x10dd590) at
/scratch/local/bee-root/gtk2/gtk2-2.24.13-0/source/gtk/gtkmain.c:1685
#34 0x00007ffff6d0b37c in gdk_event_dispatch (source=Unhandled dwarf expression
opcode 0xf3
) at
/scratch/local/bee-root/gtk2/gtk2-2.24.13-0/source/gdk/x11/gdkevents-x11.c:2403
#35 0x00007ffff32e2fe5 in g_main_dispatch (context=0xbb3290) at
/scratch/local/bee-root/glib2/glib2-2.34.0-0/source/glib/gmain.c:2715
#36 g_main_context_dispatch (context=0xbb3290) at
/scratch/local/bee-root/glib2/glib2-2.34.0-0/source/glib/gmain.c:3219
#37 0x00007ffff32e3318 in g_main_context_iterate (context=0xbb3290,
block=Unhandled dwarf expression opcode 0xf3
) at /scratch/local/bee-root/glib2/glib2-2.34.0-0/source/glib/gmain.c:3290
#38 0x00007ffff32e3712 in g_main_loop_run (loop=0xb6ee00) at
/scratch/local/bee-root/glib2/glib2-2.34.0-0/source/glib/gmain.c:3484
#39 0x00007ffff7094a17 in IA__gtk_main () at
/scratch/local/bee-root/gtk2/gtk2-2.24.13-0/source/gtk/gtkmain.c:1257
#40 0x00000000004cec3d in main (argc=1, argv=0x7fffffffe1b8) at main.c:1551

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From gerard.breiner at ias.u-psud.fr  Tue Sep 10 17:26:37 2013
From: gerard.breiner at ias.u-psud.fr (gerard breiner)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 17:26:37 +0200
Subject: [Users] Vcalendar : How to subscribe to a calendar that require
 authentication ?
In-Reply-To: <20130910135950.GB21263@trasgu>
References: <73EEC8B2-6843-46A1-BCDC-BE1FAE5013B1@ias.u-psud.fr>
	<20130910135950.GB21263@trasgu>
Message-ID: <20130910172637.Horde.cTLtwyJdZ1HMOoau5WAdcQ8@webmail.ias.u-psud.fr>

Thanks Ricardo... I have Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and the Claws-mail version  
that come by apt-get is 3.8.0 So I have the bug. Is there a simple way  
for installing the latest version ?

Best regards.

Gérard

Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> a écrit :

> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 02:48:41PM +0200, Gerard Breiner wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> It is my first message on this list so I thank you for Claws-mail
>> and plugins…
>
>   You're welcome!
>
>> However I try to use Claws-mail/Vcalendar for subscribing to a
>> calendar (horde/kronolith) that require an authentication. Is it
>> possible to do that  and how to ?
>
>   Yes, it's possible, like any other URL¹
>   And yes, is not recommended, but the bug is already fixed² ;-)
>
>   regards,
>
> ¹http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2396#section-3.2.2
> ²http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2782
> --
>   Ricardo Mones
>   ~
>   Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but
>   that's not why we do it.                            Richard Feynman





From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep 10 17:39:12 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 16:39:12 +0100
Subject: [Users] Vcalendar : How to subscribe to a calendar that require
 authentication ?
In-Reply-To: <20130910172637.Horde.cTLtwyJdZ1HMOoau5WAdcQ8@webmail.ias.u-psud.fr>
References: <73EEC8B2-6843-46A1-BCDC-BE1FAE5013B1@ias.u-psud.fr>
	<20130910135950.GB21263@trasgu>
	<20130910172637.Horde.cTLtwyJdZ1HMOoau5WAdcQ8@webmail.ias.u-psud.fr>
Message-ID: <20130910163912.14cf83b2@thewildbeast>

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 17:26:37 +0200
gerard breiner <gerard.breiner at ias.u-psud.fr> wrote: 

> Thanks Ricardo... I have Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and the Claws-mail
> version that come by apt-get is 3.8.0 So I have the bug. Is there a
> simple way for installing the latest version ?

Use the Claws Mail PPA:

https://launchpad.net/~claws-mail/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=precise

with regards

Paul


-- 
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but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From mir at miras.org  Tue Sep 10 17:42:01 2013
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 17:42:01 +0200
Subject: [Users] Vcalendar : How to subscribe to a calendar that require
 authentication ?
In-Reply-To: <20130910172637.Horde.cTLtwyJdZ1HMOoau5WAdcQ8@webmail.ias.u-psud.fr>
References: <73EEC8B2-6843-46A1-BCDC-BE1FAE5013B1@ias.u-psud.fr>
	<20130910135950.GB21263@trasgu>
	<20130910172637.Horde.cTLtwyJdZ1HMOoau5WAdcQ8@webmail.ias.u-psud.fr>
Message-ID: <20130910174201.0277ae40@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 17:26:37 +0200
gerard breiner <gerard.breiner at ias.u-psud.fr> wrote:

> Thanks Ricardo... I have Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and the Claws-mail version that come by apt-get is 3.8.0 So I have the bug. Is there a simple way for installing the latest version ?
> 
3.9.1 is available from this ppa:
http://ppa.launchpad.net/claws-mail/ppa/ubuntu/

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Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
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mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
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From claws.wielder at gmail.com  Tue Sep 10 19:52:31 2013
From: claws.wielder at gmail.com (CW)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 17:52:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] How do I view (linux) Claws-Mail generated mail boxes
 in Claws-Mail for MS Windows?
In-Reply-To: <20130826233759.CE33685646@mx.colino.net>
References: <20130823222208.C98778567F@mx.colino.net>
	<CAANP5W6By5paPbMVOKZMvDw8ej5bJr4CgcYVEc9DQLimfKpAXA@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130826233759.CE33685646@mx.colino.net>
Message-ID: <CAANP5W7KkfP+k1pTquAN=2D4v=ZdQuoHrmMj6d9nRyg1O9BZgw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks so much, Charles - it's worked perfectly this time around by
copying the files directly to C:\Users\<Name>\AppData\Roaming\Mail as
you instructed :)

On 8/26/13, Charles A Edwards <CAE at eslrahc.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 12:08:39 -0400
> CW wrote:
>
>> Where specifically do I need to copy each mailbox to my Win system
>> (Win 7)? I tried copying the mailboxes to my home directory. Using
>> "File/Add mailbox" in claws merely adds new mailboxes in the folder
>> section. I tried "File/Import mailbox file" and, after entering
>> mbox file (inbox from my copied account files) and destination folder
>> (inbox of newly created account within claws), I get the error message
>> "Mbox import has failed". (The mailboxes I added work just fine within
>> my linux system). Am I doing something wrong here?
>
> The default location in Windows 7 is
> C:\Users\<Name>\AppData\Roaming\Mail
>
> AppData is a hidden folder, if not already done you will
> need to change the file attributes in Windows 7  so that hidden
> files/folders are visible.
>
> To test I just 'made-up' a Mail2 folder and added it to Claws.
> The full tree as well the included emails now are present in Claws
> as "Mail2(MH)"
>
> It will work just as well from any other location But you Must include
> the full path when you add the mailbox.
>
>
>     Charles
>
> p.s. I get list mail so there is no need to CC me
>
> --
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From arthur at kingofthebears.com  Wed Sep 11 06:58:59 2013
From: arthur at kingofthebears.com (Arthur Knight Hammer)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 00:58:59 -0400
Subject: [Users] Editing entries in "Open with" menu
Message-ID: <20130911005859.7602d34e@zurich.site>

Greetings! OpenSuSE 12.3 Claws-mail 3.9.0

I have some bad entries in my "Open with" menu when examining
attachments and I would like to remove or edit some of them.  I've
noted that I can add entries but can't edit or delete them.

I read the FAQ about mimetypes and tracked down several OS locations
for where these items supposedly exist, but none of these locations
have the erroneous entries nor anything that looks like the list I
have.  There isn't anything in .claws-mail or many other OS folders
that I can find having done a recursive find/grep for a string
contained in the menu.

I would be most appreciative if someone could point me to the location
of this elusive set of entries!

Thank you!

*
Arthur Knight Hammer



From CAE at eslrahc.com  Wed Sep 11 07:12:39 2013
From: CAE at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 01:12:39 -0400
Subject: [Users] Editing entries in "Open with" menu
In-Reply-To: <20130911005859.7602d34e@zurich.site>
References: <20130911005859.7602d34e@zurich.site>
Message-ID: <20130911011239.300e2417@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>

On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 00:58:59 -0400
Arthur Knight Hammer wrote:

> I have some bad entries in my "Open with" menu when examining
> attachments and I would like to remove or edit some of them.  I've
> noted that I can add entries but can't edit or delete them.

 
 ~/.claws-mail/command_history

Close claws before you edit the file



    Charles

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep 11 09:23:23 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 08:23:23 +0100
Subject: [Users] Editing entries in "Open with" menu
In-Reply-To: <20130911011239.300e2417@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
References: <20130911005859.7602d34e@zurich.site>
	<20130911011239.300e2417@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
Message-ID: <20130911082323.3ea0cc93@thewildbeast>

On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 01:12:39 -0400
Charles A Edwards <CAE at eslrahc.com> wrote: 

>  ~/.claws-mail/command_history

And it's listed, with a description in `man claws-mail`, the same as
the other files.

with regards

Paul


-- 
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but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep 11 22:07:04 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:07:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3001] New: Respect locale LC_TIME to format date in
 message list
Message-ID: <bug-3001-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3001

            Bug ID: 3001
           Summary: Respect locale LC_TIME to format date in message list
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: other
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message List
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: seelenhirt at gmx.net

The date and time format in the "Date" column in the message list is "%x(%a)
%H:%M" per default (date_format in clawsrc). The format presumably changes if
claws is started with (locale) environment variable LANG or LC_MESSAGES (or
others?) set to something different than en_*. And then stays that way even
when the environment variable changes back. (Not sure if I got that really
right here.)

Right now I can only do the following two things to change the date/time
format:

- Start claws with LANG=de_CH.UTF-8 once. After that date_format is in the
right format ("%a, %d.%m.%Y %H:%M" in my case)
- Edit the format in the preferences manually.

One problem persists though. The abbreviations of the week days (%a) are in
english instead of german.

In my opinion the date format should respect locale LC_TIME and not the general
language. I usually have set LANG to something different than LC_TIME.

I briefly scanned the code but could not find where to make these changes so I
hope someone else can point me to it.

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From mirleau at bluewin.ch  Thu Sep 12 08:21:56 2013
From: mirleau at bluewin.ch (Olivier de Mirleau)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 08:21:56 +0200
Subject: [Users] howto ALWAYS encrypt if key present ?
Message-ID: <20130912082156.2b419da5@liberty>

Hi list!

Is there by any chance a way to instruct claws to always encrypt
outgoing mail if you have a key configured for the target address?

Enigmail does that, which is quite convenient. I can only get
claws-mail to auto-encrypt if I'm replying to an encrypted mail, but
not if I mail somebody out-of-the-blue spontaneously.

Any hint much appreciated :-)


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Thu Sep 12 16:51:19 2013
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 16:51:19 +0200
Subject: [Users] sending priority of outbox  ?
Message-ID: <20130912165119.095f5feb@mirrors.kernel.org>

Hey guys,

I'm accumulating mails in outbox (don't send immediately) as a means of a final review, which really fits me well.

When i was sending some accumulated mails, of which one had a huge attachment, the others had to wait for a long time because they were written later. It seems the sending order works after writing time, first in - first out ?
A quick test indicates the 'priority' flag does not relate to this, right ?

I just wonder if it would be useful to send in size order, smallest first. Well i know, normally some 1 or 2 minutes should not be that important; but think of mobile internet, where your connection could be interrupted anytime. It would make me feel 'safe' if those important pure-text mails were already launched, and the fat photo series mail is only optional.  


From theofilos at interia.pl  Fri Sep 13 12:23:39 2013
From: theofilos at interia.pl (theofilos at interia.pl)
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 12:23:39 +0200
Subject: [Users] How to change default direcotry?
Message-ID: <cyevhctwaxqcxgkcqqrk@wffk>


Hello!

Could you help me, please?
How too change default mail directory?
Under Windows 7 it is c:\Users\Theofilos\AppData\Roaming\Theofilos
I would like to change it to e:\Theofilos

Regards
Theofilos


From ml at terranean.eu  Fri Sep 13 12:44:14 2013
From: ml at terranean.eu (=?UTF-8?B?U8OpYmFzdGllbg==?=)
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 12:44:14 +0200
Subject: [Users] How to change default direcotry?
In-Reply-To: <cyevhctwaxqcxgkcqqrk@wffk>
References: <cyevhctwaxqcxgkcqqrk@wffk>
Message-ID: <20130913124414.65a42c04@sentinel>

Le 2013-09-13 à 12:23, theofilos at interia.pl a écrit:
> How too change default mail directory?
> Under Windows 7 it is c:\Users\Theofilos\AppData\Roaming\Theofilos
> I would like to change it to e:\Theofilos

Copy the mailbox to the desired location, then add a new mailbox by
specifying the path to the new location. Once it works (check if the
messages are really in the newly installed mailbox), you can safely
delete the old one from both Claws and the old location.

-- 
Sébastien


From theofilos at interia.pl  Fri Sep 13 14:22:37 2013
From: theofilos at interia.pl (theofilos at interia.pl)
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 14:22:37 +0200
Subject: [Users] How to change default direcotry?
In-Reply-To: <20130913124414.65a42c04@sentinel>
References: <cyevhctwaxqcxgkcqqrk@wffk> <20130913124414.65a42c04@sentinel>
Message-ID: <jrslkshhrdkypffjylhz@dceu>

It is impossible.
After changing to E:\Theofilos and click "Apply" it back to #mh/Theofilos/inbox - like in attachment.

Theofilos


Od: "Sébastien" <ml at terranean.eu>
Do: users at lists.claws-mail.org; 
Wysłane: 12:45 Piątek 2013-09-13
Temat: Re: [Users] How to change default direcotry?

> Le 2013-09-13 à 12:23, theofilos at interia.pl a écrit:
> > How too change default mail directory?
> > Under Windows 7 it is c:\Users\Theofilos\AppData\Roaming\Theofilos
> > I would like to change it to e:\Theofilos
> 
> Copy the mailbox to the desired location, then add a new mailbox by
> specifying the path to the new location. Once it works (check if the
> messages are really in the newly installed mailbox), you can safely
> delete the old one from both Claws and the old location.
> 
> -- 
> Sébastien
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
> 



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From ml at terranean.eu  Fri Sep 13 14:51:42 2013
From: ml at terranean.eu (=?UTF-8?B?U8OpYmFzdGllbg==?=)
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 14:51:42 +0200
Subject: [Users] How to change default direcotry?
In-Reply-To: <cyevhctwaxqcxgkcqqrk@wffk>
References: <cyevhctwaxqcxgkcqqrk@wffk>
Message-ID: <20130913145142.31382d51@sentinel>

Le 2013-09-13 à 14:22, theofilos at interia.pl a écrit:
> It is impossible.
> After changing to E:\Theofilos and click "Apply" it back to
> #mh/Theofilos/inbox - like in attachment.

Please, only reply to the list.

Assuming you want to move the directory to another location *within the
filesystem*, you don't have to change the default directory in the
account options. This default directory path will only tell Claws where
to put new mail *within Claws*. If you still wish to have your mail in
Theofilos/Inbox, you don't have to change this option.

Once you copied the mailbox from c:\Users\Theofilos\AppData\Roaming\
to e:\, just add it:
File > Add mailbox > MH...
In the "Add mailbox" window, replace "Mail" by "e:\Theofilos".
It will scan e:\Theofilos and will add it to the folders list along
with all its mails.

-- 
Sébastien


From gerard.breiner at ias.u-psud.fr  Fri Sep 13 16:10:25 2013
From: gerard.breiner at ias.u-psud.fr (Gerard Breiner)
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 16:10:25 +0200
Subject: [Users] Vcalendar : How to subscribe to a calendar that require
	authentication ?
In-Reply-To: <20130910174201.0277ae40@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <73EEC8B2-6843-46A1-BCDC-BE1FAE5013B1@ias.u-psud.fr>
	<20130910135950.GB21263@trasgu>
	<20130910172637.Horde.cTLtwyJdZ1HMOoau5WAdcQ8@webmail.ias.u-psud.fr>
	<20130910174201.0277ae40@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <AB39E2CD-DD16-40D8-ADDA-495C5A6131BE@ias.u-psud.fr>

Hi all,

1 )
Thanks for yours answers… I installed the "ppa" as it has been advised… Now I have Claws-mail 3.9.1. Nevertheless  I did not notice any change in the way to subscribe to a calendar.
I still have to write the username and password in the url like this https://user:password at myserver/rpc.php/kronolith/gbreiner/tV0_HIukgmK0sftwQ6bIJA3.ics and moreover it seems that vcalendar do not recognize caldav but webdav calendar whereas kronolith enable the caldav protocol.

2)
I Installed claws-mail 3.9.2 under windows xp too and encounter the same problem.

3)
I try to install it under MacOS X 10.8 via brew but encounter some issues with glib.
"brew audit glib" (is ok)
"brew install -vd glib" give errors :

checking for python script directory... ${prefix}/lib/python2.7/site-packages
checking for python extension module directory... ${exec_prefix}/lib/python2.7/site-packages
checking for iconv_open... no
checking for libiconv_open in -liconv... no
checking for iconv_open in -liconv... no
configure: error: *** No iconv() implementation found in C library or libiconv
/usr/local/Library/Homebrew/formula.rb:591:in `system'
BuildError: Failed executing: ./configure --disable-maintainer-mode --disable-dependency-tracking --disable-dtrace --disable-modular-tests --disable-libelf --prefix=/usr/local/Cellar/glib/2.36.4 --localstatedir=/usr/local/var --with-gio-module-dir=/usr/local/lib/gio/modules
1. raise
2. ignore
3. backtrace
4. irb
5. shell
Choose an action: 
 
Any help would be great help.
 
Best regards

Gerard Breiner 


 Le 10 sept. 2013 à 17:42, Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> a écrit :

> On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 17:26:37 +0200
> gerard breiner <gerard.breiner at ias.u-psud.fr> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Ricardo... I have Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and the Claws-mail version that come by apt-get is 3.8.0 So I have the bug. Is there a simple way for installing the latest version ?
>> 
> 3.9.1 is available from this ppa:
> http://ppa.launchpad.net/claws-mail/ppa/ubuntu/
> 
> -- 
> Hilsen/Regards
> Michael Rasmussen
> 
> Get my public GnuPG keys:
> michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
> mir <at> datanom <dot> net
> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
> mir <at> miras <dot> org
> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917
> --------------------------------------------------------------
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> 		-- Commissioner Nancy Hedford, "Metamorphosis",
> 		   stardate 3219.8
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Sep 14 11:42:46 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 09:42:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3002] New: file_checker.h is in the wrong Makefile list
Message-ID: <bug-3002-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3002

            Bug ID: 3002
           Summary: file_checker.h is in the wrong Makefile list
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: marco at marvil07.net

check_file_integrity defined on file_checker.c is used on main.c, and it's
added on old_abook_source instead of claws_mail_SOURCES.
Then, when compiling with the --enable-new-addrbook there is an error:

main.o: In function `main':
src/main.c:1281: undefined reference to `check_file_integrity'

Patch following.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Sep 14 11:46:28 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 09:46:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3002] file_checker.h is in the wrong Makefile list
In-Reply-To: <bug-3002-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3002-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3002-595-12sCx0Lgvs@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3002

--- Comment #1 from Marco Villegas <marco at marvil07.net> ---
Created attachment 1297
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1297&action=edit
Move file_checker.c to the right makefile list variable.

Here the patch moving the file to the right makefile variable list.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Sep 14 13:35:53 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 11:35:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3003] New: Plugins configuration not saved
Message-ID: <bug-3003-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3003

            Bug ID: 3003
           Summary: Plugins configuration not saved
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.9.2
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: major
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: dimti at bk.ru

I try edit config for my plugins (Preferenced -> modules - select some plugin -
and edit config) and after restart my os (or restart claws mail or some body) -
config restored to defaults.
TrayIcon - restore default config (with off option to show tray icon). Need
every restart trun on tray icon. (In previous version - work all prefect. But
3.9.2 - its realy problem)

OS: ArchLinux

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Sep 14 11:46:28 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 09:46:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3002] file_checker.h is in the wrong Makefile list
In-Reply-To: <bug-3002-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3002-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3002-595-g9QZZdnm8N@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3002

--- Comment #2 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a443fd1a706553b8ffea15aa627e0cdec9459fa
Merge: 48ea8a3 8b63bae
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Sat Sep 14 14:12:03 2013 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b63baef420977dc3d2021bb0526b474d3fb3bd5
Author: Michael Rasmussen <mir at datanom.net>
Date:   Sat Sep 14 14:07:15 2013 +0200

    Fix bug 3002 'undefined reference to check_file_integrity'.
    Patch provided by Marco Villegas.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Sep 14 14:14:40 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 12:14:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3002] file_checker.h is in the wrong Makefile list
In-Reply-To: <bug-3002-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3002-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3002-595-W03aDJc2KQ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3002

--- Comment #3 from Michael Rasmussen <mir at datanom.net> ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> Created attachment 1297 [details]
> Move file_checker.c to the right makefile list variable.
> 
> Here the patch moving the file to the right makefile variable list.
Hi Marco,

Thanks for your patch. Committed.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Sep 14 14:15:02 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 12:15:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3002] file_checker.h is in the wrong Makefile list
In-Reply-To: <bug-3002-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3002-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3002-595-gkLrbZtCn0@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3002

Michael Rasmussen <mir at datanom.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

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From info at computerhuys.nl  Sat Sep 14 15:12:06 2013
From: info at computerhuys.nl (info at computerhuys.nl)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 13:12:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?q?help_keys_not_found?=
Message-ID: <20130914131455.989698557B@mx.colino.net>

 
I'm new to claws-mail and to sending secure mail and want to use it to send secure mail.


I want to send a mail using PGP/MIME encryption. PGP/MIME add-on is installed and selected in default privacy settings.


When I send an e-mail I'm asked to select a key however no keys are found to select from. I used Kleopatra to create a key-pair on this computer for a (dummy) test e-mailaccount so I expected to be able to select this key (via this mailadress) since it is available on my computer (or at least visible within Kleopatra in the list of certificates). Also there is no way to tell where to locate / look for a key. 


How does this work?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Sep 14 14:15:02 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 12:15:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3002] file_checker.h is in the wrong Makefile list
In-Reply-To: <bug-3002-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3002-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3002-595-5GkrIjt2UY@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3002

--- Comment #4 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=23c6fdb15d928591f7824c658c7c267132702745
Merge: 9a443fd ec06e2e
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Sat Sep 14 15:57:02 2013 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=ec06e2ebb838748dbeb6f40c95482e86e7f62b6e
Author: Michael Rasmussen <mir at datanom.net>
Date:   Sat Sep 14 15:51:33 2013 +0200

    Updated Team list to be in sync with section=community on the web
    Added Marco Villegas for patch resolving bug 3002

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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Sat Sep 14 16:16:45 2013
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 15:16:45 +0100
Subject: [Users] git versions going backwards?
Message-ID: <20130914151645.1b27919f@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>

I see that today's git pull and build has created a 3.9.2git87 version,
whereas after the last pull a couple of weeks ago it was creating
3.9.2git90 when doing make dist.

Is this expected or is something broken somewhere?

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                "I am not young enough to know everything"
                                                          Oscar Wilde


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sun Sep 15 16:11:40 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 15:11:40 +0100
Subject: [Users] git versions going backwards?
In-Reply-To: <20130914151645.1b27919f@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20130914151645.1b27919f@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20130915151140.21d432ea@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 15:16:45 +0100
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

Hello Brian,

>I see that today's git pull and build has created a 3.9.2git87 version,
>whereas after the last pull a couple of weeks ago it was creating
>3.9.2git90 when doing make dist.

Odd;  I've just don a git pull and got git91.

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From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org  Mon Sep 16 01:57:27 2013
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron))
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 23:57:27 -0000
Subject: [Users] Delay sending ?
In-Reply-To: <20130826080727.010ca748@thewildbeast>
References: <20130825172209.3f17e094@ron.cerrocora.org>
	<20130826080727.010ca748@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20130826065025.1f883472@ron.cerrocora.org>

On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 08:07:27 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> > In Kmail there is (was?) an option to delay the sending of queued
> > outgoing messages until the incoming mail was collected from the
> > server.
> > Can this behaviour be configured in Claws ?  

> Do you mean 'authenticate with pop3 before sending'? If so, see
> account prefs, 'send' page.

No, I mean "wait until the Receive account auto-checks the mail from the server."
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
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From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org  Mon Sep 16 02:19:30 2013
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron))
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 20:19:30 -0400
Subject: [Users] Delay sending ?
In-Reply-To: <20130826065025.1f883472@ron.cerrocora.org>
References: <20130825172209.3f17e094@ron.cerrocora.org>
	<20130826080727.010ca748@thewildbeast>
	<20130826065025.1f883472@ron.cerrocora.org>
Message-ID: <20130915201930.5cc3699b@ron.cerrocora.org>

On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 06:50:25 -0400
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org> wrote:

> > > In Kmail there is (was?) an option to delay the sending of queued
> > > outgoing messages until the incoming mail was collected from the
> > > server.
> > > Can this behaviour be configured in Claws ?    
> 
> > Do you mean 'authenticate with pop3 before sending'? If so, see
> > account prefs, 'send' page.  
> 
> No, I mean "wait until the Receive account auto-checks the mail from the server."

Sorry for the delay, seems Claws kept it un-sent till today...
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Mon Sep 16 11:42:15 2013
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 10:42:15 +0100
Subject: [Users] git versions going backwards?
In-Reply-To: <20130915151140.21d432ea@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20130914151645.1b27919f@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130915151140.21d432ea@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20130916104215.0000132d@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 15:11:40 +0100
Brad Rogers wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 15:16:45 +0100
> Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hello Brian,
> 
> >I see that today's git pull and build has created a 3.9.2git87
> >version, whereas after the last pull a couple of weeks ago it was
> >creating 3.9.2git90 when doing make dist.
> 
> Odd;  I've just don a git pull and got git91.
> 

Odder still, I've done the same pull and autogen & make dist, I have
git88 now.

I don't know enough about git to understand how this works.

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From boudiccas at talktalk.net  Mon Sep 16 11:54:31 2013
From: boudiccas at talktalk.net (Sharon Kimble)
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 10:54:31 +0100
Subject: [Users] git versions going backwards?
In-Reply-To: <20130916104215.0000132d@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20130914151645.1b27919f@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130915151140.21d432ea@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130916104215.0000132d@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20130916105431.69211076@london>

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 10:42:15 +0100
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 15:11:40 +0100
> Brad Rogers wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 15:16:45 +0100
> > Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello Brian,
> > 
> > >I see that today's git pull and build has created a 3.9.2git87
> > >version, whereas after the last pull a couple of weeks ago it was
> > >creating 3.9.2git90 when doing make dist.
> > 
> > Odd;  I've just don a git pull and got git91.
> > 
> 
> Odder still, I've done the same pull and autogen & make dist, I have
> git88 now.
> 
> I don't know enough about git to understand how this works.
> 
Brian.
What git version do you get if you do a complete 'git clone ' into a
new, fresh, empty directory? This will give you a fresh start and might
clear it up and get you back on the same track as the rest of us :)

Sharon.
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Mon Sep 16 12:08:17 2013
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 11:08:17 +0100
Subject: [Users] git versions going backwards?
In-Reply-To: <20130916105431.69211076@london>
References: <20130914151645.1b27919f@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130915151140.21d432ea@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130916104215.0000132d@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130916105431.69211076@london>
Message-ID: <20130916110817.00003c24@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 10:54:31 +0100
Sharon Kimble wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 10:42:15 +0100
> Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 15:11:40 +0100
> > Brad Rogers wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 15:16:45 +0100
> > > Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hello Brian,
> > > 
> > > >I see that today's git pull and build has created a 3.9.2git87
> > > >version, whereas after the last pull a couple of weeks ago it was
> > > >creating 3.9.2git90 when doing make dist.
> > > 
> > > Odd;  I've just don a git pull and got git91.
> > > 
> > 
> > Odder still, I've done the same pull and autogen & make dist, I have
> > git88 now.
> > 
> > I don't know enough about git to understand how this works.
> > 
> Brian.
> What git version do you get if you do a complete 'git clone ' into a
> new, fresh, empty directory? This will give you a fresh start and
> might clear it up and get you back on the same track as the rest of
> us :)

That's what I did to get git87 the other day, I archived the old
directory and re-cloned.

-- 

Brian Morrison


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Mon Sep 16 12:59:09 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 11:59:09 +0100
Subject: [Users] git versions going backwards?
In-Reply-To: <20130916110817.00003c24@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20130914151645.1b27919f@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130915151140.21d432ea@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130916104215.0000132d@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130916105431.69211076@london>
	<20130916110817.00003c24@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20130916115909.3235a425@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 11:08:17 +0100
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

Hello Brian,

>That's what I did to get git87 the other day, I archived the old
>directory and re-cloned.

FWIW, here's the script I use to do the job.  Obviously, change paths
and config options to suit your system;



#!/bin/bash

cd /home/brad/SourceCode/claws

#! update source tree
   git reset --hard
   git pull --all

#! configure and make source into executable
   ./autogen.sh --disable-libetpan
   make

#! install in /usr/local/bin
   sudo make install

#!end of script

-- 
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         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
A friend of a friend he got beaten
I Predict A Riot - Kaiser Chiefs
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Mon Sep 16 15:39:28 2013
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 14:39:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] git versions going backwards?
In-Reply-To: <20130916115909.3235a425@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20130914151645.1b27919f@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130915151140.21d432ea@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130916104215.0000132d@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130916105431.69211076@london>
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Message-ID: <20130916143928.00002643@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 11:59:09 +0100
Brad Rogers wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 11:08:17 +0100
> Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hello Brian,
> 
> >That's what I did to get git87 the other day, I archived the old
> >directory and re-cloned.
> 
> FWIW, here's the script I use to do the job.  Obviously, change paths
> and config options to suit your system;
> 
> 
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> 
> cd /home/brad/SourceCode/claws
> 
> #! update source tree
>    git reset --hard
>    git pull --all
> 
> #! configure and make source into executable
>    ./autogen.sh --disable-libetpan
>    make
> 
> #! install in /usr/local/bin
>    sudo make install
> 
> #!end of script
> 

Thanks for that Brad. I don't do the reset --hard step but I do use
--enable-maintainer-mode for the autogen.sh step.

Then I do a make dist and build rpms using the normal Fedora spec files.

Maybe the reset is what git needs, I'll try it.

-- 

Brian Morrison


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Mon Sep 16 16:10:27 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:10:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] git versions going backwards?
In-Reply-To: <20130916143928.00002643@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20130914151645.1b27919f@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130915151140.21d432ea@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130916104215.0000132d@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130916105431.69211076@london>
	<20130916110817.00003c24@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130916115909.3235a425@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130916143928.00002643@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20130916151027.27793a41@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 14:39:28 +0100
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

Hello Brian,

>Thanks for that Brad. I don't do the reset --hard step but I do use
>--enable-maintainer-mode for the autogen.sh step.

Never tried enable maintainer mode myself.  I suspect I don't need it
anyway.

>Then I do a make dist and build rpms using the normal Fedora spec files.

I use Debian, but don't do build .debs;  Far too tricky.   :-))

>Maybe the reset is what git needs, I'll try it.

Let us know what happens.

-- 
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         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
It's your life so go your own way
Questions And Answers - Sham 69
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From boudiccas at talktalk.net  Mon Sep 16 19:23:13 2013
From: boudiccas at talktalk.net (Sharon Kimble)
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 18:23:13 +0100
Subject: [Users] Loss of 'pgpmime'
Message-ID: <20130916182313.79001dc8@london>

Having updated to git-3.9.2-88-gec06e2 today I find that I cant sign
emails with this error report showing "The privacy system 'pgpmime'
cannot be loaded. You will not be able to sign or encrypt this message".

When I try to load 'pgpmime' through the plugins configuration it shows
this error message "The following error occurred while loading
pgpmime.so :

This plugin provides a privacy interface (Core operations), which is
already provided by the PGP/Core plugin."

If I look at 'configuration -> preferences for current account ->
privacy -> default privacy session -> pgpmime (plugin not loaded)/None'
and these are the only options. 

Can I make a request for this behaviour to be reversed so that pgpmime
can be loaded again and operative please?

Thank you
Sharon.
-- 
A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk
efever = http://www.efever.blogspot.com/
efever = http://sharon04.livejournal.com/
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Registered Linux user 334501 


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Mon Sep 16 19:42:51 2013
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 18:42:51 +0100
Subject: [Users] git versions going backwards?
In-Reply-To: <20130916151027.27793a41@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20130914151645.1b27919f@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130915151140.21d432ea@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130916104215.0000132d@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130916105431.69211076@london>
	<20130916110817.00003c24@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130916115909.3235a425@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130916143928.00002643@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130916151027.27793a41@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20130916184251.00007c84@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:10:27 +0100
Brad Rogers wrote:

> >Maybe the reset is what git needs, I'll try it.  
> 
> Let us know what happens.

git reset --hard gave this response:

HEAD is now at ec06e2e Updated Team list to be in sync with section=community on the web

I repeated the normal commands I run, I still get git88 tarballs created.

Is this actually wrong? I really don't know.

-- 

Brian Morrison


From boudiccas at talktalk.net  Mon Sep 16 19:33:58 2013
From: boudiccas at talktalk.net (Sharon Kimble)
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 18:33:58 +0100
Subject: [Users] git versions going backwards?
In-Reply-To: <20130916115909.3235a425@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20130914151645.1b27919f@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130915151140.21d432ea@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130916104215.0000132d@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130916105431.69211076@london>
	<20130916110817.00003c24@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130916115909.3235a425@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20130916183358.431233f8@london>

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 11:59:09 +0100
Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 11:08:17 +0100
> Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hello Brian,
> 
> >That's what I did to get git87 the other day, I archived the old
> >directory and re-cloned.
> 
> FWIW, here's the script I use to do the job.  Obviously, change paths
> and config options to suit your system;
> 
> 
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> 
> cd /home/brad/SourceCode/claws
> 
> #! update source tree
>    git reset --hard
>    git pull --all
> 
> #! configure and make source into executable
>    ./autogen.sh --disable-libetpan
>    make
> 
> #! install in /usr/local/bin
>    sudo make install
> 
> #!end of script
> 

Brad.
Thanks for this, its very useful and I've also extended it so that I can
update claws-mail, fluxbox, and tmux, one after another. 

Brilliant, thank you very much :)

Sharon.
-- 
A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk
efever = http://www.efever.blogspot.com/
efever = http://sharon04.livejournal.com/
Debian testing, Fluxbox 1.3.5, LibreOffice 4.1.1.2
Registered Linux user 334501 


From boudiccas at talktalk.net  Mon Sep 16 20:02:01 2013
From: boudiccas at talktalk.net (Sharon Kimble)
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:02:01 +0100
Subject: [Users] Loss of 'pgpmime'
In-Reply-To: <20130916182313.79001dc8@london>
References: <20130916182313.79001dc8@london>
Message-ID: <20130916190201.0bd5411c@london>

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 18:23:13 +0100
Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote:

> Having updated to git-3.9.2-88-gec06e2 today I find that I cant sign
> emails with this error report showing "The privacy system 'pgpmime'
> cannot be loaded. You will not be able to sign or encrypt this
> message".
> 
> When I try to load 'pgpmime' through the plugins configuration it
> shows this error message "The following error occurred while loading
> pgpmime.so :
> 
> This plugin provides a privacy interface (Core operations), which is
> already provided by the PGP/Core plugin."
> 
> If I look at 'configuration -> preferences for current account ->
> privacy -> default privacy session -> pgpmime (plugin not
> loaded)/None' and these are the only options. 
> 
> Can I make a request for this behaviour to be reversed so that pgpmime
> can be loaded again and operative please?
> 
> Thank you
> Sharon.

Thanks to irc, it now works, I hope :)

What you need to do, for the benefit of the archives, is unload
pgpcore, and install pgpcore, pgpmime, and pgpinline all at once.

Thanks Ricardo
Sharon.
-- 
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efever = http://www.efever.blogspot.com/
efever = http://sharon04.livejournal.com/
Debian testing, Fluxbox 1.3.5, LibreOffice 4.1.1.2
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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Mon Sep 16 20:03:13 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:03:13 +0100
Subject: [Users] git versions going backwards?
In-Reply-To: <20130916183358.431233f8@london>
References: <20130914151645.1b27919f@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130915151140.21d432ea@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130916104215.0000132d@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
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On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 18:33:58 +0100
Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote:

Hello Sharon,

>Thanks for this, its very useful and I've also extended it so that I can

YW.  TBH, it wasn't hard to come up with;  Just (more or less) cobbled
together what the CM wiki suggests for using the GIT repo, and what I
would have typed to get a compiled copy of CM.

That's pretty much the limit of my bash scripting.

-- 
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         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Mon Sep 16 20:00:54 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:00:54 +0100
Subject: [Users] git versions going backwards?
In-Reply-To: <20130916184251.00007c84@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20130914151645.1b27919f@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130915151140.21d432ea@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130916104215.0000132d@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130916105431.69211076@london>
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On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 18:42:51 +0100
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

Hello Brian,

>Is this actually wrong? I really don't know.

TBH, neither do I.  Sorry.   :-(

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         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
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Stained glass windows keep the cold outside
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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Mon Sep 16 20:07:13 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:07:13 +0100
Subject: [Users] Loss of 'pgpmime'
In-Reply-To: <20130916182313.79001dc8@london>
References: <20130916182313.79001dc8@london>
Message-ID: <20130916190713.14caa7a8@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 18:23:13 +0100
Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote:

Hello Sharon,

>If I look at 'configuration -> preferences for current account ->
>privacy -> default privacy session -> pgpmime (plugin not loaded)/None'
>and these are the only options. 

The clue is "plugin not loaded".  Go to Configuration -> Plugins and try
to (re)load the PGPMime plugin.  If you can't, it probable that it's out
of sync, version wise, with your CM version.

-- 
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         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
I hope I live to relive the days gone by
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep 18 10:04:06 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 08:04:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3004] New: claws picks wrong mime type for attachments
Message-ID: <bug-3004-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3004

            Bug ID: 3004
           Summary: claws picks wrong mime type for attachments
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.9.2
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: pierre-bugzilla at ossman.eu

When I attach a file in claws and there are multiple possible mime types for
it, Claws picks the wrong one (compared to other applications, and the sensible
choice, so I assume there's at least a de facto ordering system in place).

As an example, Fedora has this in their mime type database:

$ grep png /usr/share/mime/globs
image/png:*.png
image/x-apple-ios-png:*.png

Everything else picks image/png, but Claws picks image/x-apple-ios-png. And
that presents some problems for the recipient to look at the image without
first storing it to disk.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep 18 10:14:54 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 08:14:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3004] claws picks wrong mime type for attachments
In-Reply-To: <bug-3004-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3004-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3004-595-DxmLTYLkiW@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3004

--- Comment #1 from Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> ---
Created attachment 1298
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1298&action=edit
Probable fix

Hi,

Does this patch fix it ?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep 18 11:12:10 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 09:12:10 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3003] Plugins configuration not saved
In-Reply-To: <bug-3003-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3003-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3003-595-d5nt25Wmjc@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3003

--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
That's not reproducible here. Please run “claws-mail --debug” on a terminal.
What's the output when you try to apply changes to plugin configuration?

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From mail at leeunderwood.org  Thu Sep 19 01:39:06 2013
From: mail at leeunderwood.org (Lee Underwood)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 19:39:06 -0400
Subject: [Users] addrbook files
Message-ID: <20130918193906.3bf23f65@lee-desktop>

I have many files, 12 to be exact, with a title such as "addrbook-000003.xml". Some have an additional back-up file extension "addrbook-000003.xml.bak". Is there a reason for all of these? Can I delete some of them?

Lee


From rcook at pcug.org.au  Thu Sep 19 04:16:30 2013
From: rcook at pcug.org.au (Owen)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:16:30 +1000
Subject: [Users] addrbook files
In-Reply-To: <20130918193906.3bf23f65@lee-desktop>
References: <20130918193906.3bf23f65@lee-desktop>
Message-ID: <20130919121630.06d5ab91@owen-Compaq>

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 19:39:06 -0400
Lee Underwood <mail at leeunderwood.org> wrote:

> I have many files, 12 to be exact, with a title such as
> "addrbook-000003.xml". Some have an additional back-up file extension
> "addrbook-000003.xml.bak". Is there a reason for all of these? Can I
> delete some of them?
> 


If you look in your address book (Tools->Address Book), you will
probably find a number of folders. 

These are what is referenced by those files.

The .bak file are standard procedure.

They don't take up much space so it might be best to leave them alone.

Alternatively back up your .claws-mail folder, delete the ones
that you want to and then see what happens




Owen


From jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com  Thu Sep 19 04:41:35 2013
From: jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com (Jeremy Schneider)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 21:41:35 -0500
Subject: [Users] Filtering windows problem (cannot close)
In-Reply-To: <20130905124940.059c5ee4@thewildbeast>
References: <20121225095818.212b5079@victoria>
	<20121225173542.00004652@unknown> <20121225225116.5bd51630@mydesk>
	<20121225233228.67a288b5@victoria>
	<20121227091836.71bfdce8@thewildbeast>
	<20121227044954.7a01ab47@victoria>
	<20121227125450.2b535bb1@thewildbeast>
	<20121227132753.413f2d0f@mydesk>
	<20121227192003.0a7dd9b2@thewildbeast>
	<CA+fnDAafyWkJafFeCe8x84R0Nd_U24Yiw+REpD5zsu3aMafDGA@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130905124940.059c5ee4@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20130918214135.3a053c55@jeremy-nb>

On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 12:49:40 +0100 Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> It could be that you have "overlay-scrollbar-gtk2" (or similarly
> named) installed. This, it appears, tries to be smart but actually
> messes things up badly. It has been the cause of some modal window
> misbehaviour in Claws. If you've got it installed, remove it and see
> if the problem goes away.

This was exactly it - solved my problem.  Thanks!  (Apologies for the
delayed response, it was only just now that I finally had a chance to
check!)  FYI, uninstalling is unnecessary - simply disabling overlay
scrollbars is sufficient.

# gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface ubuntu-overlay-scrollbars
false

Doesn't even require logging out of your X session; you just need to
exit and restart claws and the change takes effect right away.  Anyone
know if there's already a bug report with the overlay-scrollbar
package?  Admittedly I like having the bit of extra screen real estate
on my netbook and this was the first time I'd encountered a problem.
Oh well, glad claws is working correctly again!

-J

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep 19 09:43:29 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 08:43:29 +0100
Subject: [Users] Filtering windows problem (cannot close)
In-Reply-To: <20130918214135.3a053c55@jeremy-nb>
References: <20121225095818.212b5079@victoria>
	<20121225173542.00004652@unknown> <20121225225116.5bd51630@mydesk>
	<20121225233228.67a288b5@victoria>
	<20121227091836.71bfdce8@thewildbeast>
	<20121227044954.7a01ab47@victoria>
	<20121227125450.2b535bb1@thewildbeast>
	<20121227132753.413f2d0f@mydesk>
	<20121227192003.0a7dd9b2@thewildbeast>
	<CA+fnDAafyWkJafFeCe8x84R0Nd_U24Yiw+REpD5zsu3aMafDGA@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130905124940.059c5ee4@thewildbeast>
	<20130918214135.3a053c55@jeremy-nb>
Message-ID: <20130919084329.25c10d31@thewildbeast>

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 21:41:35 -0500
Jeremy Schneider <jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com> wrote: 

> Anyone
> know if there's already a bug report with the overlay-scrollbar
> package?

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/overlay-scrollbar/+bug/903302

But no-one on that team actually seems interested in doing anything
about it - reported December 2011, still unassigned, let alone fixed.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From 3daniele03 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 19 12:40:48 2013
From: 3daniele03 at gmail.com (3daniele03 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:40:48 +0200
Subject: [Users] synchronization for offline use of imap account
Message-ID: <20130919124048.6b98de37@fermat.unipv.it>

Hi

I am connected to an imap server and my account has a lot a folders and
subfolders (in maildir format, but I do not think this is relevant).

In my preferences I have "Synchronize offline folders as soon as
possible" and "Update local folders" after checking for new mail. In
each folder, I checked the property "Synchronize for offline use", but
only in few of them I have "Scan for new mail". This is because I do
not need a notification for new mail in most folders and checking a lot
of folders with hundreds of messages takes too much time during which
claws-mail is unusable.

I noticed that only folders for which I am scanning for new mail get
synchronized locally.

I wonder if there is a way to have all folders synchronized even
without scanning for new mail. I understand that the question might
appear stupid and contradictory...

Perhaps the question is related to the following one: is there a way of
scanning in background for new mail in large and numerous imap folders,
without claws-mail being unusable until the end of the scan?

Thanks in advance,

Daniele


From boudiccas at talktalk.net  Thu Sep 19 17:50:57 2013
From: boudiccas at talktalk.net (Sharon Kimble)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 16:50:57 +0100
Subject: [Users] Revised claws-mail script for use with the git repo.
Message-ID: <20130919165057.4bda0007@london>

I have amended Brian Morrison's script for getting the claws-mail from
its git repo from -
> On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 11:08:17 +0100
> Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

which is now like this -
===================================================
#!/usr/bin/env bash

cd /home/boudiccas/git/claws

# update source tree
git reset --hard

git status

read -p "Are you sure you want to continue? <y/N> " prompt
if [[ $prompt == "y" || $prompt == "Y" || $prompt == "yes" || $prompt
== "Yes" ]] then

git pull --all

# configure and make source into executable
./autogen.sh 

make

# install in /usr/local/bin

sudo make install

# end of script
else

exit 0

fi 
===================================================
I've called it 'clawsupdate' and have it in /home/$USER/bin and you
need to change the source files for you to use it. 

I've tested it and it accepts any combination of 'Y/y/N/n'

Mine is up-to-date and I get this report -
=====================================================
 clawsupdate
HEAD is now at ec06e2e Updated Team list to be in sync with
section=community on the web # On branch master
# Untracked files:
#   (use "git add <file>..." to include in what will be committed)
#
#       +1
#       debian.changelog
#       debian/
#       description-pak
#       doc-pak/
nothing added to commit but untracked files present (use "git add" to
track) Are you sure you want to continue? <y/N> N
======================================================

I reckon that you make your own decision as to whether you proceed or
not. In this case, there are few changes so its not worth proceeding.

Hope you find the revised script useful for you?

Sharon.
-- 
A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk
efever = http://www.efever.blogspot.com/
efever = http://sharon04.livejournal.com/
Debian testing, Fluxbox 1.3.5, LibreOffice 4.1.1.2
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Sep 19 19:30:54 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 17:30:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3003] Plugins configuration not saved
In-Reply-To: <bug-3003-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3003-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3003-595-bLXxfX3nZP@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3003

Alexander Demidov <dimti at bk.ru> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #2 from Alexander Demidov <dimti at bk.ru> ---
A this moment, Im can not reproduce that bug.
1. Settings is saved successfully, when
 restarting computer
 hibernating
 reload claws mail programm

If Im found the situation of reproduce this bug, im reopened this task.

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.


From clifflaine at europe.com  Tue Sep 24 12:16:35 2013
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:16:35 +0100
Subject: [Users] Difficulties installing Fancy plugin
Message-ID: <20130924111635.04df26cd@cliff-MXC061>

Dear All

I was wondering if someone could say where I'm going wrong in
installing the fancy plugin.

I have installed CM 3.9.2 from the Sourceforge tarball. I thought the
Fancy plugin should be listed under Configuration > Plugins > Load
but there is no .so file called anything like Fancy.

So I tried installing it manually from the relevant Ubuntu deb page at
http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/claws-mail-fancy-plugin/download

Still no joy. There is nothing called fancy
in /usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins

I've run out of ideas. Could anyone give me a pointer?

Thank you

Cliff
CM 3.9.2 / Linux Mint 14 Nadia 32-bit


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Sep 24 13:21:50 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 12:21:50 +0100
Subject: [Users] Difficulties installing Fancy plugin
In-Reply-To: <20130924111635.04df26cd@cliff-MXC061>
References: <20130924111635.04df26cd@cliff-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20130924122150.7c6bc7cb@thewildbeast>

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:16:35 +0100
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote: 

> I've run out of ideas. Could anyone give me a pointer?

Check the configure output. You are probably missed the plugin's
dependencies so it was not built.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From clifflaine at europe.com  Tue Sep 24 13:47:52 2013
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 12:47:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] Difficulties installing Fancy plugin
In-Reply-To: <20130924122150.7c6bc7cb@thewildbeast>
References: <20130924111635.04df26cd@cliff-MXC061>
	<20130924122150.7c6bc7cb@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20130924124752.3853896e@cliff-MXC061>

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 12:21:50 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:16:35 +0100
> Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote: 
> 
> > I've run out of ideas. Could anyone give me a pointer?
> 
> Check the configure output. You are probably missed the plugin's
> dependencies so it was not built.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> 

Thanks Paul -- I did have a bit of trouble with the dependencies.
Cliff


From gideon425.gb7 at mailnull.com  Tue Sep 24 17:06:16 2013
From: gideon425.gb7 at mailnull.com (gideon425.gb7 at mailnull.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:06:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Users] Ordering of mail
Message-ID: <20130924150616.3E97B510BD9@outside.256.com>

Claws mail seems to have a feature whereby replies to emails are placed next to the email to which they correspond.
I would like to have all emails ordered by date.
Is there a way to achieve this?

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From ml at terranean.eu  Tue Sep 24 17:20:13 2013
From: ml at terranean.eu (=?UTF-8?B?U8OpYmFzdGllbg==?=)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:20:13 +0200
Subject: [Users] Ordering of mail
In-Reply-To: <20130924150616.3E97B510BD9@outside.256.com>
References: <20130924150616.3E97B510BD9@outside.256.com>
Message-ID: <20130924172013.3854f996@sentinel>

Le 2013-09-24 à 11:06, gideon425.gb7 at mailnull.com a écrit:
> Claws mail seems to have a feature whereby replies to emails are
> placed next to the email to which they correspond. I would like to
> have all emails ordered by date. Is there a way to achieve this?

Uncheck: View > Thread view
Set: View > Sort > By date
Set: "View > Sort" to Ascending or Descending depending on what you
want to achieve.


-- 
Sébastien


From pf at pfortin.com  Tue Sep 24 17:41:51 2013
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:41:51 -0400
Subject: [Users] Ordering of mail
In-Reply-To: <20130924172013.3854f996@sentinel>
References: <20130924150616.3E97B510BD9@outside.256.com>
	<20130924172013.3854f996@sentinel>
Message-ID: <20130924114151.6b73135d@pfortin.com>

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:20:13 +0200 Sébastien wrote:

>Le 2013-09-24 à 11:06, gideon425.gb7 at mailnull.com a écrit:
>> Claws mail seems to have a feature whereby replies to emails are
>> placed next to the email to which they correspond. I would like to
>> have all emails ordered by date. Is there a way to achieve this?
>
>Uncheck: View > Thread view
   or Ctrl+T
>Set: View > Sort > By date
   or click Date column header 
>Set: "View > Sort" to Ascending or Descending depending on what you
>want to achieve.
   or click Date column header again...

So many ways... :)


From ml at terranean.eu  Tue Sep 24 18:38:59 2013
From: ml at terranean.eu (=?UTF-8?B?U8OpYmFzdGllbg==?=)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 18:38:59 +0200
Subject: [Users] Ordering of mail
In-Reply-To: <20130924114151.6b73135d@pfortin.com>
References: <20130924150616.3E97B510BD9@outside.256.com>
	<20130924172013.3854f996@sentinel>
	<20130924114151.6b73135d@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20130924183859.7d52948d@sentinel>

Le 2013-09-24 à 11:41, Pierre Fortin a écrit:
> On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:20:13 +0200 Sébastien wrote:
> >Uncheck: View > Thread view
>    or Ctrl+T
> >Set: View > Sort > By date
>    or click Date column header 
> >Set: "View > Sort" to Ascending or Descending depending on what you
> >want to achieve.
>    or click Date column header again...
> 
> So many ways... :)

Indeed, I usually prefer giving directions that are known to work on a
setup that is unknown to me. Hotkeys could have changed, column headers
hidden, etc. Going to menus also lets the user discover other similar
options.

-- 
Sébastien


From G.S.J.Hywel at swansea.ac.uk  Wed Sep 25 11:13:04 2013
From: G.S.J.Hywel at swansea.ac.uk (Geraint Hywel)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 10:13:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] Ordering of mail
In-Reply-To: <20130924150616.3E97B510BD9@outside.256.com>
References: <20130924150616.3E97B510BD9@outside.256.com>
Message-ID: <20130925101304.3caf69f1@acu-gsjhywel-fc>

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:06:16 -0400 (EDT)
gideon425.gb7 at mailnull.com wrote:

> Claws mail seems to have a feature whereby replies to emails are
> placed next to the email to which they correspond.

That's news to me.  How you do do that?

Regards

-- 
Geraint Hywel
http://about.me/geraint.hywel


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep 25 11:29:00 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 10:29:00 +0100
Subject: [Users] Ordering of mail
In-Reply-To: <20130925101304.3caf69f1@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
References: <20130924150616.3E97B510BD9@outside.256.com>
	<20130925101304.3caf69f1@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
Message-ID: <20130925102900.0f2af0c4@thewildbeast>

On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 10:13:04 +0100
Geraint Hywel <G.S.J.Hywel at swansea.ac.uk> wrote: 

> That's news to me.  How you do do that?

That's called 'threading'. It is a folder-specific option and is
activated by /View/Thread view.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Wed Sep 25 11:37:12 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 10:37:12 +0100
Subject: [Users] Ordering of mail
In-Reply-To: <20130925101304.3caf69f1@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
References: <20130924150616.3E97B510BD9@outside.256.com>
	<20130925101304.3caf69f1@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
Message-ID: <20130925103712.7440868e@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 10:13:04 +0100
Geraint Hywel <G.S.J.Hywel at swansea.ac.uk> wrote:

Hello Geraint,

>gideon425.gb7 at mailnull.com wrote:
>> Claws mail seems to have a feature whereby replies to emails are
>> placed next to the email to which they correspond.  
>That's news to me.  How you do do that?

Gideon's referring to threaded mode;  View menu -> Thread view.  In
addition, you may wish to set "Thread using subject in addition to
standard headers" in Configuration menu -> Preferences -> Display ->
Summaries.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
It couldn't adapt so it couldn't survive
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From G.S.J.Hywel at swansea.ac.uk  Wed Sep 25 12:31:24 2013
From: G.S.J.Hywel at swansea.ac.uk (Geraint Hywel)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 11:31:24 +0100
Subject: [Users] Ordering of mail
In-Reply-To: <20130925102900.0f2af0c4@thewildbeast>
References: <20130924150616.3E97B510BD9@outside.256.com>
	<20130925101304.3caf69f1@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
	<20130925102900.0f2af0c4@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20130925113124.27002ca8@acu-gsjhywel-fc>

Hi Paul/Brad

On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 10:29:00 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> That's called 'threading'. It is a folder-specific option and is
> activated by /View/Thread view.

I'm accustomed to viewing threads in a given, *single* folder.

However, the original email kind of implied that there might be a way
to view a thread of emails I've sent (which are in my "Sent" folder)
and replies (which are in some other *different* folder).

Is that possible?

Regards

-- 
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http://about.me/geraint.hywel

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From rol at witbe.net  Wed Sep 25 12:48:58 2013
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 12:48:58 +0200
Subject: [Users] Ordering of mail
In-Reply-To: <20130925113124.27002ca8@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
References: <20130924150616.3E97B510BD9@outside.256.com>
	<20130925101304.3caf69f1@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
	<20130925102900.0f2af0c4@thewildbeast>
	<20130925113124.27002ca8@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
Message-ID: <20130925124858.6f2cf1b6@riri.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello,

On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 11:31:24 +0100
Geraint Hywel <G.S.J.Hywel at swansea.ac.uk> wrote:

> However, the original email kind of implied that there might be a way
> to view a thread of emails I've sent (which are in my "Sent" folder)
> and replies (which are in some other *different* folder).
> 
> Is that possible?

That's what I'm doing, as I've configured Claws to automatically add me in
Cc:. This way, any mail sent is : 
 - copied to the Sent folder,
 - also sent to me, thus received and added to the folder where the mails
   I'm replying too are stored.

This allows the threaded view to work perfectly.

Paul


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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Wed Sep 25 13:15:48 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 12:15:48 +0100
Subject: [Users] Ordering of mail
In-Reply-To: <20130925124858.6f2cf1b6@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
References: <20130924150616.3E97B510BD9@outside.256.com>
	<20130925101304.3caf69f1@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
	<20130925102900.0f2af0c4@thewildbeast>
	<20130925113124.27002ca8@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
	<20130925124858.6f2cf1b6@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
Message-ID: <20130925121548.62db4eb7@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 12:48:58 +0200
Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) <rol at witbe.net> wrote:

Hello Paul,

>That's what I'm doing, as I've configured Claws to automatically add me
>in Cc:. This way, any mail sent is : 
> - copied to the Sent folder,
> - also sent to me, thus received and added to the folder where the
> mails I'm replying too are stored.

Why not just set "Save copy of outgoing messages in this folder instead
of Sent"?

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
Your life is like a schedule, you run to meet the bills
Life Kills - Human League
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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Wed Sep 25 13:18:52 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 12:18:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] Ordering of mail
In-Reply-To: <20130925113124.27002ca8@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
References: <20130924150616.3E97B510BD9@outside.256.com>
	<20130925101304.3caf69f1@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
	<20130925102900.0f2af0c4@thewildbeast>
	<20130925113124.27002ca8@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
Message-ID: <20130925121852.0f8301d2@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 11:31:24 +0100
Geraint Hywel <G.S.J.Hywel at swansea.ac.uk> wrote:

Hello Geraint,

>However, the original email kind of implied that there might be a way

It took me a re-read to see that implication.  In my initial read I
assumed(1) Gideon was talking about mailing lists.

>to view a thread of emails I've sent (which are in my "Sent" folder)
>and replies (which are in some other *different* folder).
>Is that possible?

Not AFAIAA.  See my reply to Paul for a different possibility that may
satisfy your needs.

(1) I know, "Never assume.  It makes an Ass of U and Me".   :-(

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
Well well well, you just can't tell
My Michelle - Guns 'N' Roses
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From G.S.J.Hywel at swansea.ac.uk  Wed Sep 25 13:30:41 2013
From: G.S.J.Hywel at swansea.ac.uk (Geraint Hywel)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 12:30:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] Ordering of mail
In-Reply-To: <20130925124858.6f2cf1b6@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
References: <20130924150616.3E97B510BD9@outside.256.com>
	<20130925101304.3caf69f1@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
	<20130925102900.0f2af0c4@thewildbeast>
	<20130925113124.27002ca8@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
	<20130925124858.6f2cf1b6@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
Message-ID: <20130925123041.420e4117@acu-gsjhywel-fc>

On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 12:48:58 +0200
Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) <rol at witbe.net> wrote:

> That's what I'm doing, as I've configured Claws to automatically add
> me in Cc:. This way, any mail sent is : 
>  - copied to the Sent folder,
>  - also sent to me, thus received and added to the folder where the
> mails I'm replying too are stored.
> 
> This allows the threaded view to work perfectly.

Interesting idea. I can see some downsides to doing this, but it might
be worth it to enable seeing sent and received email in a single thread.

Thanks for the idea

Regards

-- 
Geraint Hywel
http://about.me/geraint.hywel


From pf at pfortin.com  Wed Sep 25 14:33:23 2013
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:33:23 -0400
Subject: [Users] Ordering of mail
In-Reply-To: <20130925121548.62db4eb7@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20130924150616.3E97B510BD9@outside.256.com>
	<20130925101304.3caf69f1@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
	<20130925102900.0f2af0c4@thewildbeast>
	<20130925113124.27002ca8@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
	<20130925124858.6f2cf1b6@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
	<20130925121548.62db4eb7@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20130925083323.5953a77f@pfortin.com>

On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 12:15:48 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 12:48:58 +0200
>Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) <rol at witbe.net> wrote:
>
>Hello Paul,
>
>>That's what I'm doing, as I've configured Claws to automatically add me
>>in Cc:. This way, any mail sent is : 
>> - copied to the Sent folder,
>> - also sent to me, thus received and added to the folder where the
>> mails I'm replying too are stored.
>
>Why not just set "Save copy of outgoing messages in this folder instead
>of Sent"?

Why not indeed...  :)  Actually, I always wondered why "sent" messages in
"this folder" can't be re-edited without a copy/move to Sent folder. CM
already knows to insert "--> " into the From column, so the test for
sent already exits....  Without this feature, the process is:
  - copy/move to Sent
  - re-edit & send
  - copy/move new msg from "Sent" to "this folder" (or delete)

Or does this exist in some way I've yet to find?  :)

Cheers,
Pierre

 



From brad at fineby.me.uk  Wed Sep 25 15:13:30 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:13:30 +0100
Subject: [Users] Ordering of mail
In-Reply-To: <20130925083323.5953a77f@pfortin.com>
References: <20130924150616.3E97B510BD9@outside.256.com>
	<20130925101304.3caf69f1@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
	<20130925102900.0f2af0c4@thewildbeast>
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	<20130925124858.6f2cf1b6@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
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	<20130925083323.5953a77f@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20130925141330.3577ffdb@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:33:23 -0400
Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:

Hello Pierre,

>Why not indeed...  :)  Actually, I always wondered why "sent" messages
>in "this folder" can't be re-edited without a copy/move to Sent folder.

Because the folder is not of the correct type.  That is, it's not of the
type "Queue".

>Or does this exist in some way I've yet to find?  :)

Set the folder type as Queue, but be warned, you can't change it back
from within CM, so if you think you might want to change it I suggest
you keep a back up copy of folderlist.xml from ~/.claws-mail, just in
case.  Alternatively, you can edit folderlist.xml whilst CM _isn't_
running.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
The man in a tracksuit attacks me
I Predict A Riot - Kaiser Chiefs
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From pf at pfortin.com  Wed Sep 25 17:17:16 2013
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 11:17:16 -0400
Subject: [Users] Ordering of mail
In-Reply-To: <20130925141330.3577ffdb@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20130924150616.3E97B510BD9@outside.256.com>
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Message-ID: <20130925111716.2afe536d@pfortin.com>

On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:13:30 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote:

Hi Brad!

>>Why not indeed...  :)  Actually, I always wondered why "sent" messages
>>in "this folder" can't be re-edited without a copy/move to Sent folder.
>
>Because the folder is not of the correct type.  That is, it's not of the
>type "Queue".

>Set the folder type as Queue, but be warned, you can't change it back
>from within CM, so if you think you might want to change it I suggest
>you keep a back up copy of folderlist.xml from ~/.claws-mail, just in
>case.  Alternatively, you can edit folderlist.xml whilst CM _isn't_
>running.

Other than the difficulty in reverting, are there any other downsides?
If changing most of my folders to Queue type solves the re-edit issue
with no other side effects, that would be awesome for me...  

I never stopped to think about the reason for folder type...  so setting
a/some folder(s) to type Trash would allow emptying on File->Empty all
Trash folders...  interesting...  now I finally understand another CM
subtlety...  :)

Thanks,
Pierre



From nicolas.claws at iselin.ch  Wed Sep 25 17:40:07 2013
From: nicolas.claws at iselin.ch (Nicolas Iselin)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 17:40:07 +0200
Subject: [Users] Ordering of mail
In-Reply-To: <20130925111716.2afe536d@pfortin.com>
References: <20130924150616.3E97B510BD9@outside.256.com>
	<20130925101304.3caf69f1@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
	<20130925102900.0f2af0c4@thewildbeast>
	<20130925113124.27002ca8@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
	<20130925124858.6f2cf1b6@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
	<20130925121548.62db4eb7@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130925083323.5953a77f@pfortin.com>
	<20130925141330.3577ffdb@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130925111716.2afe536d@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20130925174007.2cf0372e@omega>

Hi Pierre

Am Wed, 25 Sep 2013 11:17:16 -0400
schrieb Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com>:

> >
> >Because the folder is not of the correct type.  That is, it's not of
> >the type "Queue".
> 
> 
> Other than the difficulty in reverting, are there any other downsides?
> If changing most of my folders to Queue type solves the re-edit issue
> with no other side effects, that would be awesome for me...  
> 

What I personally really dislike about a "Queue Type" folder is that
when I open a mail with "double click" in my sent folder and print it
out, it gets the current date (and not the original compose date).

I also dislike that I cannot access the attachments directly in the
right column. I even cannot view them in the "Attachments" Tab, I just
can view (and change) their metadata.

To get the "normal" view of a mail in the sent folder, I need to use
"right-click" -> View -> Open in new Window (sorry, backtranslated from
German, your labels may be different) which is bound to "Ctrl-Alt-N" in
the default setting.

Follow Up Question: is it possible to make the "Ctrl-Alt-N" behaviour
the default behaviour and have the "edit" behaviour in the right-click
menu?

Nicolas



From brad at fineby.me.uk  Wed Sep 25 18:47:56 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 17:47:56 +0100
Subject: [Users] Ordering of mail
In-Reply-To: <20130925111716.2afe536d@pfortin.com>
References: <20130924150616.3E97B510BD9@outside.256.com>
	<20130925101304.3caf69f1@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
	<20130925102900.0f2af0c4@thewildbeast>
	<20130925113124.27002ca8@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
	<20130925124858.6f2cf1b6@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
	<20130925121548.62db4eb7@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130925083323.5953a77f@pfortin.com>
	<20130925141330.3577ffdb@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130925111716.2afe536d@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20130925174756.5e1a664a@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 11:17:16 -0400
Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:

Hello Pierre,

>Other than the difficulty in reverting, are there any other downsides?

I have no idea, TBH.  I only tried the folder setting as research for
this thread.  As soon as I found that setting "Queue" was
non-reversible, I decided to proceed no further, and shut down CM, and
reset the folder to 'normal' in the folderlist.xml file.

>I never stopped to think about the reason for folder type...  so setting
>a/some folder(s) to type Trash would allow emptying on File->Empty all
>Trash folders...  interesting...  now I finally understand another CM

Much of that sort of thing can be handled by pre- and/or post-processing
rules on the folders.  It might not be as easy, but is doable.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
He signed up for just three years, it seemed a small amount
Tin Soldiers - Stiff Little Fingers
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep 25 19:05:28 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 18:05:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] Ordering of mail
In-Reply-To: <20130925174756.5e1a664a@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20130924150616.3E97B510BD9@outside.256.com>
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Message-ID: <20130925180528.649414ff@thewildbeast>

On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 17:47:56 +0100
Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote: 

> I have no idea, TBH.  I only tried the folder setting as research
> for this thread.  As soon as I found that setting "Queue" was
> non-reversible, I decided to proceed no further, and shut down CM,
> and reset the folder to 'normal' in the folderlist.xml file.

It's not non-reversible, but it's like that to ensure that there /is/
a folder of type 'queue'. You can set another folder as a 'queue' type
and the previous 'queue' type folder gets set back to 'normal'. Not
sure how this will work out with your manual editing of
folderlist.xml, though!

Incidentally, sub-folders of the 'queue' type folder inherit its type.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From pf at pfortin.com  Wed Sep 25 19:55:14 2013
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:55:14 -0400
Subject: [Users] re-edit in non "Sent" folders [was: Re: Ordering of mail]
In-Reply-To: <20130925180528.649414ff@thewildbeast>
References: <20130924150616.3E97B510BD9@outside.256.com>
	<20130925101304.3caf69f1@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
	<20130925102900.0f2af0c4@thewildbeast>
	<20130925113124.27002ca8@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
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	<20130925121548.62db4eb7@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
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	<20130925180528.649414ff@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20130925135514.0b9d6934@pfortin.com>

On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 18:05:28 +0100 Paul wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 17:47:56 +0100
>Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote: 
>
>> I have no idea, TBH.  I only tried the folder setting as research
>> for this thread.  As soon as I found that setting "Queue" was
>> non-reversible, I decided to proceed no further, and shut down CM,
>> and reset the folder to 'normal' in the folderlist.xml file.
>
>It's not non-reversible, but it's like that to ensure that there /is/
>a folder of type 'queue'. You can set another folder as a 'queue' type
>and the previous 'queue' type folder gets set back to 'normal'. Not
>sure how this will work out with your manual editing of
>folderlist.xml, though!

Hi Paul...  if I understand your comment, using Queue type on folders in
an attempt to allow re-editing (as in Send folder) would not work due to
"previous 'queue' type folder gets set back to 'normal'"...

>Incidentally, sub-folders of the 'queue' type folder inherit its type.

Other than inheritance, this wouldn't change queuing via the parent only 
or anything else, would it?  Argh... I'm going orthogonal to the intent
of re-editing of sent messages in non-Sent folders; and of the OP
question... [changing Subject]

Simply, would an enhancement to allow re-editing of sent messages in
non-Sent folders be viable, and worth opening a request?

>with regards
>
>Paul

Cheers,
Pierre


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Wed Sep 25 20:17:04 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 19:17:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] Ordering of mail
In-Reply-To: <20130925180528.649414ff@thewildbeast>
References: <20130924150616.3E97B510BD9@outside.256.com>
	<20130925101304.3caf69f1@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
	<20130925102900.0f2af0c4@thewildbeast>
	<20130925113124.27002ca8@acu-gsjhywel-fc>
	<20130925124858.6f2cf1b6@riri.DEF.witbe.net>
	<20130925121548.62db4eb7@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130925083323.5953a77f@pfortin.com>
	<20130925141330.3577ffdb@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130925111716.2afe536d@pfortin.com>
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	<20130925180528.649414ff@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20130925191704.69c7f599@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 18:05:28 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

Hello Paul,

>It's not non-reversible, but it's like that to ensure that there /is/
>a folder of type 'queue'. You can set another folder as a 'queue' type

Ah, I see.  That makes a good deal of sense.  I didn't investigate
enough, obviously.  As soon as I saw that the type setting for the
folder I'd set as Queue was ghosted, I had a (minor) panic and quit CM.

>and the previous 'queue' type folder gets set back to 'normal'. Not
>sure how this will work out with your manual editing of
>folderlist.xml, though!

Well, I've just checked, and the /real/ queue folder is set as queue.
Thinking about it, I didn't actually edit folderlist.xml.  What I did
was, before shutting down CM, copy the contents od ~/.claws-mail to a
temporary location, shut down CM and the copy folderlist.xml.bak from
the safe location to ~/.claws-mail/folderlist.xml.  As such, the
'proper' setting were re-instated.

Warnings about manual editing of folder type duly noted, of course.

>Incidentally, sub-folders of the 'queue' type folder inherit its type.

Handy to know, and may prove useful in this context.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
You're the psychotic daughter of a psychotic mother
Pure Mania - The Vibrators
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From johnxj at comcast.net  Thu Sep 26 02:33:03 2013
From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 17:33:03 -0700
Subject: [Users] Changed SSL certificate
Message-ID: <20130925173303.7c071066@Devil8>

Claws Mail 3.8.0 on Xubuntu 12.04.

Lately I have been constantly getting popup messages like this:

Changed SSL Certificate
Certficcate for imap.gmail.com has changed. Do you want to accept it? 
Signature status: No certificate issuer found.
Known certificate:
Owner						Signer
Name: imap.gmail.com			Name: Google Int Authority
Organization: Google Inc. 		Organization: Google Inc.
Location: Mountain View, US 	Location: US 
Status Fingerprint (too hard to type!) 
Signature status: No certificate
issuer found Expires on: 13/12/31(Tue) 07:58
New certificate:
Owner						Signer
Name: imap.gmail.com			Name: Google Int Author G2
Organization: Google Inc. 		Organization: Google Inc.
Location: Mountain View, US 	Location: US 
Status Fingerprint (too hard to type!) 
Signature status: No certificate issuer found 
Expires on: 14/09/10(Wed) 00:59 
			[Cancel connection]	[Accept and save]

I use Claws Mail for three accounts: a comcast.net account that came
with my internet provider, a gmail account that I created many years
ago, and a new gmail account created when my university switched to
Google mail. The first two are pop3 and the university account is imap.

At first the messages were about pop.gmail.com, so I disabled that
account for a few days. Now I am getting them about the university
account, which I dare not turn off for very long. 

Regardless if I click on Cancel connection or I click on Accept and
save, the messages keep popping up. In the meantime, Claws Mail
fetches the mail just fine. 

The popups are highly annoying because they appear right on top of
whatever program window I am working in. I don't know if they are an
indication of a security problem, or if they can be safely ignored.
Most importantly, I can't figure out how to shut them up.

Suggestions and observations welcome.


From ricardo at mones.org  Thu Sep 26 09:32:27 2013
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:32:27 +0200
Subject: [Users] Changed SSL certificate
In-Reply-To: <20130925173303.7c071066@Devil8>
References: <20130925173303.7c071066@Devil8>
Message-ID: <20130926073227.GB27755@trasgu>

On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 05:33:03PM -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> Claws Mail 3.8.0 on Xubuntu 12.04.
> 
> Lately I have been constantly getting popup messages like this:
> 
> Changed SSL Certificate
[...]
> Regardless if I click on Cancel connection or I click on Accept and
> save, the messages keep popping up. In the meantime, Claws Mail
> fetches the mail just fine. 
> 
> The popups are highly annoying because they appear right on top of
> whatever program window I am working in. I don't know if they are an
> indication of a security problem, or if they can be safely ignored.
> Most importantly, I can't figure out how to shut them up.
> 
> Suggestions and observations welcome.

  http://claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2012-January/001099.html

  regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  Don't take the name of root in vain.          /usr/src/linux/README

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From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Thu Sep 26 18:16:30 2013
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:16:30 -0700
Subject: [Users] Queued emails
Message-ID: <20130926091630.69506072@frogguski.911networks.com>

Hi,

I need to send one HTML email per week. I thought of creating it
myself and putting in the queue, then use CM

The mails in the queue have the headers already made. Does CM need
them? 

What are:

===start======================
AF:
NF:0
PS:10
SRH:1
SFN:
DSR:
MID:
CFG:
PT:0
S:syv at 911networks.com
RQ:
SSV:192.168.1.14
NSV:
SSH:
R:<syv.ritch at gmail.com>
MAID:4
X-Claws-Privacy-System:
X-Claws-Sign:0
SCF:#mh/Mailbox/sent
X-Claws-Auto-Wrapping:1
X-Claws-Auto-Indent:1
X-Claws-End-Special-Headers: 1
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:07:25 -0700
From: Syv Ritch <syv at 911networks.com>
To: syv.ritch at gmail.com
Subject: test for queue
Message-ID: <20130926090725.5628f151 at frogguski.911networks.com>
X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu)
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
===end==============================

Any documentation, clarification, guidance...?

-- 
Thanks
http://www.911networks.com
When the network has to work


From jerry at seibercom.net  Thu Sep 26 20:29:35 2013
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 14:29:35 -0400
Subject: [Users] vcalendar and Google Calendar
Message-ID: <20130926142935.215c0b1e@scorpio>

Is it possible to sync the claws-mail vcalendar plug-in with Google's
Calendar? I cannot seem to find a way to make it work.

-- 
Jerry ♔

Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored.
Please do not ignore the Reply-To header.
__________________________________________________________________



From jerry at seibercom.net  Thu Sep 26 21:26:17 2013
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 15:26:17 -0400
Subject: [Users] claws-mail vcalendar
Message-ID: <20130926152617.13dc2ad7@scorpio>

I have attached a screen shot of the vcalendar as it appears on my
screen. If that gets stripped off, it can be viewed at
<http://seibercom.net/Images/vcal.png>. Anyway, as you can notice, the
buttons on the right side of the Starts At and Ends At are both greyed
out. I have not found out how to activate them. Also, the "Check
Availability" button is greyed out, although I may not have everything
configured correctly for that.

System Information
GTK+ 2.24.19 / GLib 2.36.3
Locale: C (charset: US-ASCII)
Operating System: FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE (amd64)

Is this normal or do I have a problem with something?

-- 
Jerry ♔

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From johnxj at comcast.net  Fri Sep 27 05:16:46 2013
From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan)
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 20:16:46 -0700
Subject: [Users] Changed SSL certificate
In-Reply-To: <20130926073227.GB27755@trasgu>
References: <20130925173303.7c071066@Devil8>
	<20130926073227.GB27755@trasgu>
Message-ID: <20130926201646.594fc510@Devil8>

On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:32:27 +0200
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> dijo:

>On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 05:33:03PM -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:
>> Claws Mail 3.8.0 on Xubuntu 12.04.
>> 
>> Lately I have been constantly getting popup messages like this:
>> 
>> Changed SSL Certificate
>[...]
>> Regardless if I click on Cancel connection or I click on Accept and
>> save, the messages keep popping up. In the meantime, Claws Mail
>> fetches the mail just fine. 
>> 
>> The popups are highly annoying because they appear right on top of
>> whatever program window I am working in. I don't know if they are an
>> indication of a security problem, or if they can be safely ignored.
>> Most importantly, I can't figure out how to shut them up.

>  http://claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2012-January/001099.html

Your link only offers the suggestion to edit clawsrc to make it stop
checking SSL certificates. I'm not sure that is a good idea.

In the meantime I have a partial solution. I had CM set to check all
three accounts every three minutes, which then generated a multitude of
annoying popups. CM never pops up the warnings if I use Get or 
Get All. So I turned off the automatic checking every three minutes and
just check mail manually when I want to see if I have mail. 

I don't understand why I got the warnings with the automatic checks but
never get the warnings with manual checks. 

Note that I started getting these popup warnings about two weeks ago. I
understand servers might be out of sync for a day or two, but gmail and
comcast, both huge players? For two weeks?

Something is not adding up here.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Sep 27 07:21:44 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 06:21:44 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changed SSL certificate
In-Reply-To: <20130926201646.594fc510@Devil8>
References: <20130925173303.7c071066@Devil8> <20130926073227.GB27755@trasgu>
	<20130926201646.594fc510@Devil8>
Message-ID: <20130927062144.3240901a@thewildbeast>

On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 20:16:46 -0700
John Jason Jordan <johnxj at comcast.net> wrote: 

> Note that I started getting these popup warnings about two weeks
> ago. I understand servers might be out of sync for a day or two,
> but gmail and comcast, both huge players? For two weeks?

Don't over-estimate "huge players" (or under-estimate the little guy),
this happens every year with gmail.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From johnxj at comcast.net  Fri Sep 27 08:53:51 2013
From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan)
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 23:53:51 -0700
Subject: [Users] Changed SSL certificate
In-Reply-To: <20130927062144.3240901a@thewildbeast>
References: <20130925173303.7c071066@Devil8> <20130926073227.GB27755@trasgu>
	<20130926201646.594fc510@Devil8>
	<20130927062144.3240901a@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20130926235351.5bc521b5@Devil8>

On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 06:21:44 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> dijo:

>On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 20:16:46 -0700
>John Jason Jordan <johnxj at comcast.net> wrote: 
>
>> Note that I started getting these popup warnings about two weeks
>> ago. I understand servers might be out of sync for a day or two,
>> but gmail and comcast, both huge players? For two weeks?
>
>Don't over-estimate "huge players" (or under-estimate the little guy),
>this happens every year with gmail.

For two weeks?

But more importantly, why do I get the popup warnings with the
automatic checks, but never with the manual checks?


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Sep 27 09:02:02 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 08:02:02 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changed SSL certificate
In-Reply-To: <20130926235351.5bc521b5@Devil8>
References: <20130925173303.7c071066@Devil8> <20130926073227.GB27755@trasgu>
	<20130926201646.594fc510@Devil8>
	<20130927062144.3240901a@thewildbeast>
	<20130926235351.5bc521b5@Devil8>
Message-ID: <20130927080202.00e728a6@thewildbeast>

On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 23:53:51 -0700
John Jason Jordan <johnxj at comcast.net> wrote: 

> But more importantly, why do I get the popup warnings with the
> automatic checks, but never with the manual checks?

Pure chance - the certificate didn't change when you did manual check.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From ricardo at mones.org  Fri Sep 27 10:27:14 2013
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 10:27:14 +0200
Subject: [Users] claws-mail vcalendar
In-Reply-To: <20130926152617.13dc2ad7@scorpio>
References: <20130926152617.13dc2ad7@scorpio>
Message-ID: <20130927082714.GD27755@trasgu>

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 03:26:17PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
> I have attached a screen shot of the vcalendar as it appears on my
> screen. If that gets stripped off, it can be viewed at
> <http://seibercom.net/Images/vcal.png>. Anyway, as you can notice, the
> buttons on the right side of the Starts At and Ends At are both greyed
> out. I have not found out how to activate them. Also, the "Check
> Availability" button is greyed out, although I may not have everything
> configured correctly for that.
> 
> System Information
> GTK+ 2.24.19 / GLib 2.36.3
> Locale: C (charset: US-ASCII)
> Operating System: FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE (amd64)
> 
> Is this normal or do I have a problem with something?

  You've been hit by http://bugs.debian.org/711864 so youprobably want to
apply these post-3.9.2 commits:

  - http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c8fa959c3daf8fb002fbfc06260c4b4ca5d8f50
  - http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b991ce1f05877ccd2d872da56cb55d1e1b0a3d1

  HTH,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but 
  that's not why we do it.                            Richard Feynman

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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Fri Sep 27 15:08:27 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 14:08:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changed SSL certificate
In-Reply-To: <20130926235351.5bc521b5@Devil8>
References: <20130925173303.7c071066@Devil8> <20130926073227.GB27755@trasgu>
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On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 23:53:51 -0700
John Jason Jordan <johnxj at comcast.net> wrote:

Hello John,

>For two weeks?

Yes.  It seems to be google policy to roll out SSL cert changes slowly.
Most people don't notice it because their MUA accepts these changes
without notifying the user.  Hazardous, if you ask me, since it only
makes man in the middle attacks easier.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
The public wants what the public gets
Going Underground - The Jam
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Fri Sep 27 16:01:58 2013
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 15:01:58 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changed SSL certificate
In-Reply-To: <20130927140827.5a0d83d5@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20130925173303.7c071066@Devil8> <20130926073227.GB27755@trasgu>
	<20130926201646.594fc510@Devil8>
	<20130927062144.3240901a@thewildbeast>
	<20130926235351.5bc521b5@Devil8>
	<20130927140827.5a0d83d5@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20130927150158.000030cf@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 14:08:27 +0100
Brad Rogers wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 23:53:51 -0700
> John Jason Jordan <johnxj at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello John,
> 
> >For two weeks?
> 
> Yes.  It seems to be google policy to roll out SSL cert changes
> slowly. Most people don't notice it because their MUA accepts these
> changes without notifying the user.  Hazardous, if you ask me, since
> it only makes man in the middle attacks easier.
> 

Perhaps it's because they need to sync up with the NSA/GCHQ folks for
every server...?

-- 

Brian Morrison


From bruce.bowler at gmail.com  Fri Sep 27 17:01:39 2013
From: bruce.bowler at gmail.com (Bruce Bowler)
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:01:39 -0400
Subject: [Users] minimize to tray?
Message-ID: <20130927110139.0000243f@unknown>

I'm a long time sylpheed user who's going to try claws instead.  One
thing that I was able to do with sylpheed, that I can't find out how to
do in claws is to minimize the the system tray (windows 7).  

I found the "exit to tray" option in the settings for the notification
plug in, but I have an aversion to clicking the X in a window - I find
it a bit 'un-nerving' (hey, what can I say :-).

What would it take to get a 'minimize to tray' option added (teaching
my hand to not be afraid isn't an option)

Thanks!
Bruce


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Sep 27 17:20:56 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:20:56 +0100
Subject: [Users] minimize to tray?
In-Reply-To: <20130927110139.0000243f@unknown>
References: <20130927110139.0000243f@unknown>
Message-ID: <20130927162056.022a5258@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:01:39 -0400
Bruce Bowler <bruce.bowler at gmail.com> wrote: 

> What would it take to get a 'minimize to tray' option added
> (teaching my hand to not be afraid isn't an option)

That's the 'hide when iconified' option.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Fri Sep 27 17:17:13 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:17:13 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changed SSL certificate
In-Reply-To: <20130927150158.000030cf@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20130925173303.7c071066@Devil8> <20130926073227.GB27755@trasgu>
	<20130926201646.594fc510@Devil8>
	<20130927062144.3240901a@thewildbeast>
	<20130926235351.5bc521b5@Devil8>
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	<20130927150158.000030cf@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20130927161713.43c33d9b@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 15:01:58 +0100
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

Hello Brian,

>Perhaps it's because they need to sync up with the NSA/GCHQ folks for
>every server...?

That would be funny, if it weren't true.  ;-))

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
A friend of a friend he got beaten
I Predict A Riot - Kaiser Chiefs
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Fri Sep 27 17:49:37 2013
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:49:37 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changed SSL certificate
In-Reply-To: <20130927161713.43c33d9b@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20130925173303.7c071066@Devil8> <20130926073227.GB27755@trasgu>
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	<20130927062144.3240901a@thewildbeast>
	<20130926235351.5bc521b5@Devil8>
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Message-ID: <20130927164937.000077b8@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:17:13 +0100
Brad Rogers wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 15:01:58 +0100
> Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hello Brian,
> 
> >Perhaps it's because they need to sync up with the NSA/GCHQ folks for
> >every server...?
> 
> That would be funny, if it weren't true.  ;-))
> 

Quite...

-- 

Brian Morrison


From inpost at gmail.com  Fri Sep 27 21:31:12 2013
From: inpost at gmail.com (e-letter)
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 20:31:12 +0100
Subject: [Users] change default imap directories
Message-ID: <CAET1fe5Or_3HFucis0pQmnBKAMADKuo1JH+WM+UFD8sh3dE5ZQ@mail.gmail.com>

Readers,

Is it possible to change the default directory for storage of imap
mail, from the user directory (~/.claws-mail) to another directory
(that will have the same permissions as '~/.claws-mail/imapcache'?

If so, how to do so please?


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Sep 28 01:12:01 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 23:12:01 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3005] New: Reply Date Not Current Date
Message-ID: <bug-3005-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3005

            Bug ID: 3005
           Summary: Reply Date Not Current Date
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.9.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows NT
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Compose Window
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: 93h16cv8rf at cogeco.ca

Good Day . . .

I created this format "%D{%A, %e %B %Y}" for my Reply. Unfortunately it just
repeats the date from the email message. That is the date it was received and
not the current date of the reply. Even %d repeats that date from the email
message and not the current date.

I used Preferences>Compose>Templates>Reply.

I just started using your email client and I am very happy. If I am doing
something wrong with the format please let me know.

Thank You.

Hope this helps.

plmlbn

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From kardan at riseup.net  Sat Sep 28 03:22:07 2013
From: kardan at riseup.net (kardan)
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 03:22:07 +0200
Subject: [Users] synchronization for offline use of imap account
In-Reply-To: <20130919124048.6b98de37@fermat.unipv.it>
References: <20130919124048.6b98de37@fermat.unipv.it>
Message-ID: <20130928032207.78cba23c@delight>

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:40:48 +0200
3daniele03 at gmail.com wrote:

> I wonder if there is a way to have all folders synchronized even
> without scanning for new mail. I understand that the question might
> appear stupid and contradictory...

Hi Daniele,

this is what I did:
1. right click INBOX -> properties
2. disable "scan for new mail" with "recursively" checked
3. enable "synchonize for offlien use" with "recursively" checked
4. OK
5. right click INBOX -> properties
6. enable "scan for new mail" with "recursively" unchecked

Does this help?

-- 
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Please encrypt emails to me. http://gnupg.org/documentation
Public GPG key 9D6108AE58C06558 at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net
fingerprint: F72F C4D9 6A52 16A1 E7C9  AE94 9D61 08AE 58C0 6558

Why?
* EU data retention since 2006 http://tinyurl.com/eu-data-retention
* NSA/GCHQ spying cables http://tinyurl.com/nsa-timeline
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From boudiccas at talktalk.net  Sat Sep 28 09:29:14 2013
From: boudiccas at talktalk.net (Sharon Kimble)
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 08:29:14 +0100
Subject: [Users] Enhancement request - adding in programmes required for
 configuration.
Message-ID: <20130928082914.58c577c1@london>

Being in inveterate fiddler and just configuring 'emacs' and saw
something rather nice at the end of its ./configuration. It shows what
programmes its missing for successful configuration. Could this be
compiled into claws-mail setup please? It would help other folk compile
from source, and maybe patches for upstream too? 

Hopefully, thanks
Sharon.
-- 
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efever = http://www.efever.blogspot.com/
efever = http://sharon04.livejournal.com/
Debian stable, Fluxbox 1.3.5, LibreOffice  4.1.0.4
Registered Linux user 561944
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From 3daniele03 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 28 10:07:49 2013
From: 3daniele03 at gmail.com (Daniele)
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 10:07:49 +0200
Subject: [Users] synchronization for offline use of imap account
In-Reply-To: <20130928032207.78cba23c@delight>
References: <20130919124048.6b98de37@fermat.unipv.it>
	<20130928032207.78cba23c@delight>
Message-ID: <20130928100749.25376250@adnum>

Hi Kardan,

On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 03:22:07 +0200
kardan <kardan at riseup.net> wrote:

> 1. right click INBOX -> properties
> 2. disable "scan for new mail" with "recursively" checked
> 3. enable "synchonize for offlien use" with "recursively" checked
> 4. OK
> 5. right click INBOX -> properties
> 6. enable "scan for new mail" with "recursively" unchecked

this is exactly what I am doing (besides the fact that my folders are
not subfolders of INBOX but are at the same level of INBOX, so that in
item 1. INBOX is replaced by the root of my imap folder and I do not
need "recursively" in item 6.).

Moreover, under "Configuration -> Preferences -> Miscellaneous" I have
"Synchronize offline folders as soon as possible".

However, very often folders are not synchronized.

In this case, when I am offline and try to change folder, I get the
message "Claws Mail needs network access..." and if something has been
modified from a different client, this is not reflected by the local
cache. This happens even after going online, synchronizing folders
(Shift+Ctrl+S) and going back offline.

My understanding is that this occurs in those folders where I do not
have the property "Scan for new mail" active.

Am I doing anything wrong?


From jdalinux at yahoo.com.br  Sat Sep 28 18:56:19 2013
From: jdalinux at yahoo.com.br (J.D. Ackle)
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 17:56:19 +0100
Subject: [Users] minimize to tray?
In-Reply-To: <20130927162056.022a5258@thewildbeast>
References: <20130927110139.0000243f@unknown>
	<20130927162056.022a5258@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20130928175619.59dac13b@jdackle>

On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:20:56 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:01:39 -0400
> Bruce Bowler <bruce.bowler at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> > What would it take to get a 'minimize to tray' option added
> > (teaching my hand to not be afraid isn't an option)
> 
> That's the 'hide when iconified' option.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
As a matter of trivia, and from an application's point of view, the "minimize window" and "iconify window" are the exact same action. "Minimised windows" are what e.g. Ms Windows calls them and they are usually placed on a "taskbar" as a text button (possibly with icon too) you can click to "restore" the window to be displayed on-screen. "Iconified windows" are usually hidden from the desktop and put to either a taskbar but, I think, more often to the desktop, as an application launcher-icon (I think the first time I saw this was years ago on WindowMaker, a very nice looking Desktop Environment actually).
It's not the application that chooses whether it will be minimised or rather iconified, that's the window manager's job to decide and handle. Thus, whether any given application mentions itself being minimised or iconified, the result will be the same.
Just thought this little bit of info might be relevant to better understanding this.


From jerry at seibercom.net  Sat Sep 28 21:52:44 2013
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 15:52:44 -0400
Subject: [Users] vcalendar and webcals:// URLs
Message-ID: <20130928155244.1817717e@scorpio>

I was trying to sync my web based calendar with vcalendar and
discovered that if I use: "webcals://" I received a warning that the
URL could not be parsed. If I dropped the "s", it worked fine. Is this
a bug or design feature?

-- 
Jerry ♔

Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored.
Please do not ignore the Reply-To header.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Sep 29 09:10:39 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 07:10:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2981] claws-mail-3.9.2 compilation warnings
In-Reply-To: <bug-2981-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2981-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2981-595-xgAMKrTMHe@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2981

--- Comment #1 from mirraz1 at rambler.ru ---
In addition to warnings in previous comment I'v got this warning:
claws-mail-3.9.2/src/toolbar.c:1504:2: warning: implicit declaration of
function ‘send_cancel’ [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]

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From colin at colino.net  Sun Sep 29 10:50:32 2013
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 10:50:32 +0200
Subject: [Users] vcalendar and webcals:// URLs
In-Reply-To: <20130928155244.1817717e@scorpio>
References: <20130928155244.1817717e@scorpio>
Message-ID: <20130929105032.10f0b4e1@mike>

On 28 September 2013 at 15h52, Jerry wrote:

Hi, 

> I was trying to sync my web based calendar with vcalendar and
> discovered that if I use: "webcals://" I received a warning that the
> URL could not be parsed. If I dropped the "s", it worked fine. Is this
> a bug or design feature?

Can you try with https instead ?

-- 
Colin
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From colin at colino.net  Sun Sep 29 10:51:47 2013
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 10:51:47 +0200
Subject: [Users] change default imap directories
In-Reply-To: <CAET1fe5Or_3HFucis0pQmnBKAMADKuo1JH+WM+UFD8sh3dE5ZQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAET1fe5Or_3HFucis0pQmnBKAMADKuo1JH+WM+UFD8sh3dE5ZQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20130929105147.01a9b2ea@mike>

On 27 September 2013 at 20h31, e-letter wrote:

Hi, 

> Is it possible to change the default directory for storage of imap
> mail, from the user directory (~/.claws-mail) to another directory
> (that will have the same permissions as '~/.claws-mail/imapcache'?

No, that's not possible from within Claws-Mail. What you can do though,
is move the mail where you want and symlink that to
~/.claws-mail/imapcache, if you're comfortable with command line.

-- 
Colin
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Sep 18 10:14:54 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 08:14:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3004] claws picks wrong mime type for attachments
In-Reply-To: <bug-3004-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3004-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3004-595-sirOJKtHhf@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3004

--- Comment #2 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest Git and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://git.claws-mail.org/

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=dc475350bb9371e9e30fa2ae6adea582cdab94be
Merge: 23c6fdb de0d6d2
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Sun Sep 29 11:03:04 2013 +0200

    Merge branch 'master' of file:///home/git/claws

http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=de0d6d263e40307d18966c4fc46460f6bfbef5be
Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
Date:   Sun Sep 29 11:02:56 2013 +0200

    Fix bug #3004, "claws picks wrong mime type for attachments"
    Use first match for each extension

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From jerry at seibercom.net  Sun Sep 29 11:32:52 2013
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 05:32:52 -0400
Subject: [Users] vcalendar and webcals:// URLs
In-Reply-To: <20130929105032.10f0b4e1@mike>
References: <20130928155244.1817717e@scorpio>
	<20130929105032.10f0b4e1@mike>
Message-ID: <20130929053252.61d65633@scorpio>

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 10:50:32 +0200
Colin Leroy articulated:

> On 28 September 2013 at 15h52, Jerry wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> > I was trying to sync my web based calendar with vcalendar and
> > discovered that if I use: "webcals://" I received a warning that the
> > URL could not be parsed. If I dropped the "s", it worked fine. Is
> > this a bug or design feature?
> 
> Can you try with https instead ?

Simply replacing "webcals://" with "https://" works. So why does
"webcal://" work then? Is this a bug and should I report it?

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From mir at miras.org  Sun Sep 29 11:58:34 2013
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:58:34 +0200
Subject: [Users] vcalendar and webcals:// URLs
In-Reply-To: <20130929053252.61d65633@scorpio>
References: <20130928155244.1817717e@scorpio> <20130929105032.10f0b4e1@mike>
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On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 05:32:52 -0400
Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:

> 
> Simply replacing "webcals://" with "https://" works. So why does
> "webcal://" work then? Is this a bug and should I report it?
> 
Colin has already fixed it:
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=a02f4367c140d6c08a34ae966ef4326ba979f3a0

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Sep 29 12:40:19 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 10:40:19 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3006] New: Claws Mail hangs after trying to open
 encrypted mail when using gpg-agent
Message-ID: <bug-3006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3006

            Bug ID: 3006
           Summary: Claws Mail hangs after trying to open encrypted mail
                    when using gpg-agent
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.9.2
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Privacy
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: andre at vondeetzen.de

I'm using Fedora 19/Gnome3 with Claws-Mail 3.9.2. When I send an encrypted
message to myself (did it for testing purposes), encrypt it, receive it and
want to decrypt it claws-mail hangs. I have to kill it with kill -9 in order to
terminate the process. There is no difference between PGP inline or PGP Mime.

If I disable 'Use gpg-agent to manage passwords' everything works fine.

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From jerry at seibercom.net  Sun Sep 29 13:49:16 2013
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 07:49:16 -0400
Subject: [Users] vcalendar and webcals:// URLs
In-Reply-To: <20130929115834.4613f109@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20130928155244.1817717e@scorpio> <20130929105032.10f0b4e1@mike>
	<20130929053252.61d65633@scorpio>
	<20130929115834.4613f109@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20130929074916.596a187f@scorpio>

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:58:34 +0200
Michael Rasmussen articulated:

> On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 05:32:52 -0400
> Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Simply replacing "webcals://" with "https://" works. So why does
> > "webcal://" work then? Is this a bug and should I report it?
> > 
> Colin has already fixed it:
> http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=a02f4367c140d6c08a34ae966ef4326ba979f3a0

Excellent :)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Sep 29 17:30:30 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 15:30:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3006] Claws Mail hangs after trying to open encrypted
 mail when using gpg-agent
In-Reply-To: <bug-3006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3006-595-fLAnUHAs1k@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3006

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
sounds like your gpg-agent configuration is broken

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Sep 29 17:36:26 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 15:36:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3005] Reply Date Not Current Date
In-Reply-To: <bug-3005-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3005-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3005-595-1E2pTwijEL@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3005

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
This is intended behaviour and not a bug.
You could create an Action to achieve what you want.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Sep 29 17:37:05 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 15:37:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3004] claws picks wrong mime type for attachments
In-Reply-To: <bug-3004-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3004-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3004-595-X2xNiE0qO6@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3004

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Sep 29 17:38:41 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 15:38:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2999] Claws-Mail disregards style preferences of fvwm
In-Reply-To: <bug-2999-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2999-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2999-595-vXfqjXya4r@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2999

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
I think you should look at what changed in fvwm, as, iirc, nothing changed in
Claws.

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From vitsen at gmx.com  Sun Sep 29 18:11:30 2013
From: vitsen at gmx.com (vitsen at gmx.com)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 18:11:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] [request] Color settings on Windows
Message-ID: <52485132.8040305@gmx.com>

@Colin (and others),

a few months ago I requested as a feature the customizing of the 
interface colors in the Windows version (whose Gtk themes cannot be 
changed, for some reason). This is a real need for people with visual 
impairments, who cannot see well with the default color combination 
(black on white).

It appeared from your responses that this can be done in Windows:
http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2013-January/005086.html

Could you please work on it, for the next release? It is an important 
feature.

Manually editing the color settings (as a "hidden preference", as Colin 
suggested) in a text file would be a good solution for me - and I guess 
for others too - because it is quite easy.

Thanks for the cooperation

Regards


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Sep 29 18:12:30 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 16:12:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3005] Reply Date Not Current Date
In-Reply-To: <bug-3005-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3005-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3005-595-HXN91n2aDx@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3005

--- Comment #2 from plmlbn <93h16cv8rf at cogeco.ca> ---
Thank You for the reply. It was appreciated.

Two points.

1. I tried your suggestion for an 'action'. I downloaded the necessary script,
fix_date.sh. Unfortunately, the script errored out on line 13 with
     "./fix_date.sh: 13: ./fix_date.sh: Syntax error: "(" unexpected". My bash
scripting knowledge is not sufficient for me to fully debug a script so I'll
just pass this on to you. My bash is GNU Bash-4.2, 28 December 2010 on Kubuntu
12.04.3.

2. I realise that you know more about this than I do but I fail to see the
logic in inserting a date in a reply that is just a repeat of the message date.
I used a message from 2012 to practice on and I just kept repeating the 2012
date.

May I suggest a wishlist comment for a 'simple' method of inserting the current
date (and time?) in a message reply.

Thank You
Keep up the good work

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From jerry at seibercom.net  Sun Sep 29 18:25:52 2013
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:25:52 -0400
Subject: [Users] Templates
Message-ID: <20130929122552.709d313a@scorpio>

Is it possible to place a "template" on the toolbar? I often need to
forward as attachments several messages to a particular site with
instructions placed in the body of the main message. I created a
template that does just that; however, I am forced to click the
"forward" button and then pick the template out of the "tools" menu. If
I could just highlight the messages I wanted forwarded and then click
on the icon for the "template" on the tool bar, it would save a lot of
time. Does claws-mail support creating a macro to handle this? Creating
an "action" doesn't work because claws-mail insists on sending each
attachment as an individual item rather then en masse.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Sep 29 18:33:24 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 16:33:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3006] Claws Mail hangs after trying to open encrypted
 mail when using gpg-agent
In-Reply-To: <bug-3006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3006-595-BowNdav61h@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3006

--- Comment #2 from andre at vondeetzen.de ---
And what makes you think it's broken? At least it works for e.g. with
Thunderbird and never had problems before. So if you have an educated guess I'd
be very interested in it if not just ignore my question. Thanks.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Sep 29 19:13:37 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 17:13:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3005] Reply Date Not Current Date
In-Reply-To: <bug-3005-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3005-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3005-595-wS7GWekH2g@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3005

--- Comment #3 from Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> ---
> 1. I tried your suggestion for an 'action'. I downloaded the necessary script, > fix_date.sh. Unfortunately, the script errored out on line 13 with

That script is for inserting a date *header* rather than entering a date into
the reply itself.  I suspect, it could be modifed to do that, but like you, my
bash knowledge isn't up to the task.

> 2. I realise that you know more about this than I do but I fail to see the
> logic in inserting a date in a reply that is just a repeat of the message
> date. I used a message from 2012 to practice on and I just kept repeating
> the 2012 date.

The date you're setting up using the %D{fmt} method in the Reply->Templates
section of preferences is for the attribution of quoted mail.  Therefore, it
has to be the date of the message you're replying to.

> May I suggest a wishlist comment for a 'simple' method of inserting the current > date (and time?) in a message reply.

That option would be handy at times.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Sep 29 19:16:43 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 17:16:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3006] Claws Mail hangs after trying to open encrypted
 mail when using gpg-agent
In-Reply-To: <bug-3006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3006-595-I4WUZv1m1z@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3006

--- Comment #3 from Michael Rasmussen <mir at datanom.net> ---
(In reply to comment #2)
> And what makes you think it's broken? At least it works for e.g. with
> Thunderbird and never had problems before. So if you have an educated guess
> I'd be very interested in it if not just ignore my question. Thanks.

AFAIK Thunderbird does not use gpg-agent so because Thunderbird works does not
imply your gpg-agent works.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Sep 29 19:20:43 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 17:20:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3007] New: Rot13 encryption / decryption does not work
 under Windows 7
Message-ID: <bug-3007-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3007

            Bug ID: 3007
           Summary: Rot13 encryption / decryption does not work under
                    Windows 7
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.9.2
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows NT
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Actions
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: nospamtest1234 at mailinator.com

Hello,

|tr a-zA-Z n-za-mN-ZA-M| does not work under Windows 7. 

http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Actions says: 

This will apply the rot13 cyphering algorithm to the (selected) text in the
message/compose view.


Don't work under Windows 7.

I use Claws Mail for Usenet.

Please fix it.

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From rol at witbe.net  Sun Sep 29 19:40:00 2013
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 19:40:00 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3006] New: Claws Mail hangs after trying to open
 encrypted mail when using gpg-agent
In-Reply-To: <bug-3006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20130929194000.7aaf7e49@riri.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello,

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 10:40:19 +0000
noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:

> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3006
> I'm using Fedora 19/Gnome3 with Claws-Mail 3.9.2. When I send an encrypted
> message to myself (did it for testing purposes), encrypt it, receive it
> and want to decrypt it claws-mail hangs. I have to kill it with kill -9
> in order to terminate the process. There is no difference between PGP
> inline or PGP Mime.

Using Claws 3.9.2, F19-64bits and KDE, and it works perfectly.

Maybe you try running claws with --debug options, it may contains some
useful informations.

Paul
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From myetto1 at nycap.rr.com  Sun Sep 29 21:00:41 2013
From: myetto1 at nycap.rr.com (Michael A. Yetto)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 15:00:41 -0400
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3005] Reply Date Not Current Date
In-Reply-To: <bug-3005-595-HXN91n2aDx@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3005-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
	<bug-3005-595-HXN91n2aDx@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20130929150041.08c01d67@Braetac.lighthouse.yetnet>

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 16:12:30 +0000
noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:

>May I suggest a wishlist comment for a 'simple' method of
>inserting the current date (and time?) in a message reply.
>

I can't tell you the details of doing this in Windows, but
basically you want to create an Action that will output the date
using the method available from a command line (shell command).

In Linux the action would be: 
	date '+%%A %%B %%e, %%Y %%n'  
	giving Sunday September 29, 2013 
or 
	date '+%%c'
	giving Sun 29 Sep 2013 02:56:25 PM EDT

Not the doubled percent signs. Of course you would use the
equivalent Windows command followed by '>' as the action to
execute.

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From itz at buug.org  Sun Sep 29 21:51:04 2013
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:51:04 -0700
Subject: [Users] Error verifying signature - what is up?
Message-ID: <20130929125104.7ee1df8b.itz@buug.org>

I cannot verify the signature on a particular message.  The error blurb
is:

  The signature can't be checked - Invalid crypto engine

I do not understand MIME and PGP enough to know if the message is
misformatted, my claws is misconfigured or this is a bug.  I am able to
verify other signatures.  Here are the various mime things in the
message:

  In the headers:
    Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8362453850664368238=="

  In the body:
    Dies ist eine kryptografisch unterzeichnete Nachricht im MIME-Format.

    --===============8362453850664368238==
    Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature";
            micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms060008030704070800000506"

    Dies ist eine kryptografisch unterzeichnete Nachricht im MIME-Format.

    --------------ms060008030704070800000506
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    [...snipped message content...]

    --------------ms060008030704070800000506
    Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s"
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
    Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s"
    Content-Description: S/MIME Kryptografische Unterschrift

    [...snipped base64 garbage...]

     --------------ms060008030704070800000506--


    --===============8362453850664368238==
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    Content-Disposition: inline

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Everyone hates slow websites. So do we.
    Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics
    Download AppDynamics Lite for free today:
    http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb
    --===============8362453850664368238==
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    Content-Disposition: inline

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From mir at miras.org  Sun Sep 29 22:17:51 2013
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 22:17:51 +0200
Subject: [Users] Error verifying signature - what is up?
In-Reply-To: <20130929125104.7ee1df8b.itz@buug.org>
References: <20130929125104.7ee1df8b.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20130929221751.4fdc956e@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:51:04 -0700
Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:

>     --------------ms060008030704070800000506
>     Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s"
>     Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
>     Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s"
>     Content-Description: S/MIME Kryptografische Unterschrift
> 
>     [...snipped base64 garbage...]
> 
If you are using Debian this is a long time outstanding bug. See screen
shot.

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From itz at buug.org  Mon Sep 30 07:26:59 2013
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 22:26:59 -0700
Subject: [Users] Error verifying signature - what is up?
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On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 22:17:51 +0200
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

Michael> If you are using Debian this is a long time outstanding
Michael> bug. See screen shot.

Indeed I am using Debian.  Do you have the bug number?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep 30 10:02:12 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 08:02:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3007] Rot13 encryption / decryption does not work
 under Windows 7
In-Reply-To: <bug-3007-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3007-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3007-595-ps16yGTBiT@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3007

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
Thanks for reporting, Actions page fixed now.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep 30 13:24:12 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:24:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3007] Rot13 encryption / decryption does not work
 under Windows 7
In-Reply-To: <bug-3007-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3007-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3007-595-bI04dZCcKT@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3007

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
          Component|UI/Actions                  |default
            Product|Claws Mail                  |Claws Mail (Windows)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep 30 13:30:26 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:30:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3006] Claws Mail hangs after trying to open encrypted
 mail when using gpg-agent
In-Reply-To: <bug-3006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3006-595-0XC0KNp6fR@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3006

--- Comment #4 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
What makes me think it's broken? Or rather, what makes me think that it could
be broken?

1. You didn't say that you had verified that it worked elsewhere
2. Many users had problems setting up and configuring gpg-agent correctly
3. For those not in 2. above it works fine

So it could be that you've not set up gpg-agent correctly, or maybe you've not
installed pinetry-gtk2 or pinentry-qt.

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From bruce.bowler at gmail.com  Mon Sep 30 15:49:20 2013
From: bruce.bowler at gmail.com (Bruce Bowler)
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 09:49:20 -0400
Subject: [Users] Odd maximize/minimize behavior
Message-ID: <20130930094920.00006bef@unknown>

I'm using claws v3.9.2-55-g74b05b on Windows 7 pro.  

I observe the following, repeatable, strange behavior.  

Open claws.  

Hit the maximize button in the upper right corner of the window.
Claws maximizes as expected.

Hit the close (x) button in the upper right corner.
Claws minimized to the systray, as expected.

Click on the icon in the systray to restore claws to it's prior,
maximized, state.  Claws come up filling the screen, with the middle of
the 3 options in the upper right corner looking like it's maximized,
but it's not really maximized.  

I wonder if there's some bit of code that's not quite complete in the
"restore the window" processing.  I know that some of this is
controlled by the window manager, but as claws is the only application
I'm running that exhibits this behavior, I'm guess that at least part
of the problem lies within the claws code (or some library that it
calls).

Bruce


From bruce.bowler at gmail.com  Mon Sep 30 20:08:33 2013
From: bruce.bowler at gmail.com (Bruce Bowler)
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 14:08:33 -0400
Subject: [Users] execute?
Message-ID: <20130930140833.00003b13@unknown>

My latest 'issue' (remember, I'm trying to switch from sylpheed)

Execute doesn't seem to work...  I have unchecked 'execute immediately'
option.  I then delete a message, which places a 'red x' in the status
column.  At that point, I hit the execute button and expect that
pending actions would be executed (at least that's the way sylpheed
works), but nothing happens.  

Are my expectations wrong?  Is there a different option that I need to
check/un-check?  Something else?

Bruce


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Sep 30 20:45:15 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 18:45:15 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3006] Claws Mail hangs after trying to open encrypted
 mail when using gpg-agent
In-Reply-To: <bug-3006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3006-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3006-595-0tMdVgzn5B@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3006

--- Comment #5 from andre at vondeetzen.de ---
Thanks a lot for your hints. I will give them a try!

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