From colin at colino.net  Tue Jan  1 15:08:17 2013
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2013 15:08:17 +0100
Subject: [Users] 2013 wishes
Message-ID: <9135383f-ed6c-4903-9a93-ab7829bee767@email.android.com>

Hi everyone,

Best wishes for the new year !
-- 
Envoyé de mon smartphone ; excusez la brièveté.
Sent from my smartphone ; please excuse the brevity.


From jerry at seibercom.net  Tue Jan  1 18:18:02 2013
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 12:18:02 -0500
Subject: [Users] ActiveSync
Message-ID: <20130101121802.3f87106b@scorpio>

Does "claws-mail" support "ActiveSync". A client asked me about it. He
is getting information from the URL <http://www.automx.org/en/> site. I
think they want to try utilizing the application.

-- 
Jerry ♔

Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored.
Please do not ignore the Reply-To header.
__________________________________________________________________



From rsg at mweb.co.za  Tue Jan  1 21:21:25 2013
From: rsg at mweb.co.za (rsg at mweb.co.za)
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2013 22:21:25 +0200
Subject: [Users] Retrieval of message headers followed by selection of
	desired action per message
Message-ID: <50E34545.18038.132544@rsg.mweb.co.za>

Good day,

I am running Ubuntu Linux and use Pegasus Mail under Wine. Whilst 
Pegasus (a Windows e-mail client) provides exactly what I need, 
running it under Wine is not entirely satisfactory. I am therefore 
evaluating Claws Mail 3.7.4 as a possible replacement on the Linux 
platform.

The connection to my Internet Service Provider (POP3 protocol) is 
slow and my contract provides a limited data capacity per month. 
Pegasus Mail allows me to fetch the Headers of all messages on the 
server and then provides the following options:
(a) Retrieve the whole message but leave it on the server.
(b) Delete the message from the server without retrieving.
(c) Retrieve the whole message and Delete from the server.

Each header in the group may be marked individually with the desired 
response (a, b or c) and then an execution command is sent.

I know that Claws Mail can be set to comply either with option (a) or 
option (c). This may be done via the Configuration menu (Preferences 
for current account / Receive) followed by deselecting or selecting 
"Remove messages on server when received" respectively. Whatever is 
selected is applied to all messages on the server.

Is there a way to emulate the options provided by Pegasus and, if so, 
how may this be done?

Thank you,
Rodney Gray


From anmeyer at anup.de  Tue Jan  1 22:11:35 2013
From: anmeyer at anup.de (Andreas)
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2013 22:11:35 +0100
Subject: [Users] missing letters
Message-ID: <50E35107.3090302@anup.de>

Hello!

I set up my notebook with the new openSUSE 12.2 and use the old 
home-partition. The claws-mail I am running with openSUSE is 3.8.1,
but I have the problem that the letters e,f and b on the keyboard
are missing.
In every other appliation they are there and can be used normally.

What could be the cause for this problem? What can I do? I use
claws-mail for years and do not want to change.

Happy New Year!

Andreas


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Tue Jan  1 22:24:41 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 21:24:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] missing letters
In-Reply-To: <50E35107.3090302@anup.de>
References: <50E35107.3090302@anup.de>
Message-ID: <20130101212441.39af1d2e@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Tue, 01 Jan 2013 22:11:35 +0100
Andreas <anmeyer at anup.de> wrote:

Hello Andreas,

>What could be the cause for this problem? What can I do? I use
>claws-mail for years and do not want to change.

Possibly they've been assigned as keyboard short cuts for some menu
items:  Check all menus to see if this is the case.  If they have, hover
your mouse pointer of the relevant menu item, and press the delete key.
This will delete the shortcut, and return your letters to their normal
use.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
You don't entertain ideas you simply bore them
I Don't Like You - Stiff Little Fingers
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From anmeyer at anup.de  Tue Jan  1 23:10:37 2013
From: anmeyer at anup.de (Andreas)
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2013 23:10:37 +0100
Subject: [Users] missing letters
In-Reply-To: <20130101212441.39af1d2e@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <50E35107.3090302@anup.de>
	<20130101212441.39af1d2e@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <50E35EDD.6040804@anup.de>

Hello!

Am 01.01.2013 22:24, schrieb Brad Rogers:
> On Tue, 01 Jan 2013 22:11:35 +0100
> Andreas <anmeyer at anup.de> wrote:
>
> Hello Andreas,
>
>> What could be the cause for this problem? What can I do? I use
>> claws-mail for years and do not want to change.
>
> Possibly they've been assigned as keyboard short cuts for some menu
> items:  Check all menus to see if this is the case.  If they have, hover
> your mouse pointer of the relevant menu item, and press the delete key.
> This will delete the shortcut, and return your letters to their normal
> use.

Yes, that could be the cause of my problem. The three letters e,f and b
are assigned. But if I hover to the menu items and press the delete key, 
nothing happens. Any other chance of deleting this shortcuts?

-- 
Andreas


From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Wed Jan  2 00:27:14 2013
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 18:27:14 -0500
Subject: [Users] ActiveSync
In-Reply-To: <20130101121802.3f87106b@scorpio>
References: <20130101121802.3f87106b@scorpio>
Message-ID: <20130101182714.00007dd3@unknown>

It's not a matter of supporting ActiveSync. It's a matter of using
either Microsoft's or Mozilla's automatic configuration "standards".

I don't believe that CM supports either specification but I'll leave it
to the devs to make definitive statements.

-- 
Rich P.


From itz at buug.org  Wed Jan  2 07:47:32 2013
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 22:47:32 -0800
Subject: [Users] missing letters
In-Reply-To: <50E35EDD.6040804@anup.de>
References: <50E35107.3090302@anup.de>
	<20130101212441.39af1d2e@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<50E35EDD.6040804@anup.de>
Message-ID: <20130101224732.0b8865ba.itz@buug.org>

On Tue, 01 Jan 2013 23:10:37 +0100
Andreas <anmeyer at anup.de> wrote:

Brad> Possibly they've been assigned as keyboard short cuts for some
Brad> menu items: Check all menus to see if this is the case.  If they
Brad> have, hover your mouse pointer of the relevant menu item, and
Brad> press the delete key. This will delete the shortcut, and return
Brad> your letters to their normal use.

Andreas> Yes, that could be the cause of my problem. The three letters
Andreas> e,f and b are assigned. But if I hover to the menu items and
Andreas> press the delete key, nothing happens. Any other chance of
Andreas> deleting this shortcuts?

Yes, you can inspect and possibly edit the file

~/.claws-mail/menurc

Better do it while claws is not running, of course.

-- 
Ian Zimmerman
gpg public key: 1024D/C6FF61AD
fingerprint: 66DC D68F 5C1B 4D71 2EE5  BD03 8A00 786C C6FF 61AD
http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/c66875cda51109f76c6312f4d4743d1e.png
Rule 420: All persons more than eight miles high to leave the court.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jan  2 09:18:46 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 08:18:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] missing letters
In-Reply-To: <50E35EDD.6040804@anup.de>
References: <50E35107.3090302@anup.de>
	<20130101212441.39af1d2e@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<50E35EDD.6040804@anup.de>
Message-ID: <20130102081846.09c4714b@thewildbeast>

On Tue, 01 Jan 2013 23:10:37 +0100
Andreas <anmeyer at anup.de> wrote: 

> Yes, that could be the cause of my problem. The three letters e,f
> and b are assigned. But if I hover to the menu items and press the
> delete key, nothing happens. Any other chance of deleting this
> shortcuts?

You need to enable the 'Enable customisable keyboard shortcuts'
option on the Other/Miscellaneous page of the Preferences, and then
you can remove them with the delete key. Presumably, you disabled
this option after (perhaps accidentally) setting those keys as
shortcuts.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jan  2 09:33:49 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 08:33:49 +0000
Subject: [Users] Retrieval of message headers followed by selection of
 desired action per message
In-Reply-To: <50E34545.18038.132544@rsg.mweb.co.za>
References: <50E34545.18038.132544@rsg.mweb.co.za>
Message-ID: <20130102083349.0aad1cae@thewildbeast>

On Tue, 01 Jan 2013 22:21:25 +0200
rsg at mweb.co.za wrote: 

<snip>
> evaluating Claws Mail 3.7.4
<snip>

3.7.4 was released 3 years, there have been 9 releases since. Using
such an old version is not recommended, and neither would it allow you
a fair evaluation.

<snip>
> (a) Retrieve the whole message but leave it on the server.
> (b) Delete the message from the server without retrieving.
> (c) Retrieve the whole message and Delete from the server.
<snip> 
> I know that Claws Mail can be set to comply either with option (a)
> or option (c).
<snip>
> Is there a way to emulate the options provided by Pegasus and, if
> so, how may this be done?

Claws Mail used to have option (b), but it was replaced by a better
feature: On the Receive tab of the set the 'receive size limit'.
Messages larger than this size will be partially retrieved. You will
then be able to delete them on the server or download the whole
message. See the attached screenshot.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 
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From anmeyer at anup.de  Wed Jan  2 09:58:15 2013
From: anmeyer at anup.de (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 09:58:15 +0100
Subject: [Users] missing letters
In-Reply-To: <20130102081846.09c4714b@thewildbeast>
References: <50E35107.3090302@anup.de>
	<20130101212441.39af1d2e@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<50E35EDD.6040804@anup.de> <20130102081846.09c4714b@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20130102095815.1cac8b18@notebook.bitcorner.intern>

Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 01 Jan 2013 23:10:37 +0100
> Andreas <anmeyer at anup.de> wrote: 
> 
> > Yes, that could be the cause of my problem. The three letters e,f
> > and b are assigned. But if I hover to the menu items and press the
> > delete key, nothing happens. Any other chance of deleting this
> > shortcuts?
> 
> You need to enable the 'Enable customisable keyboard shortcuts'
> option on the Other/Miscellaneous page of the Preferences, and then
> you can remove them with the delete key. Presumably, you disabled
> this option after (perhaps accidentally) setting those keys as
> shortcuts.

Yes, that did the trick. Thank you everbody for the help with this!

  Andreas



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jan  2 12:37:55 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 11:37:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] Retrieval of message headers followed by selection of
 desired action per message
In-Reply-To: <20130102083349.0aad1cae@thewildbeast>
References: <50E34545.18038.132544@rsg.mweb.co.za>
	<20130102083349.0aad1cae@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20130102113755.192ccdb7@thewildbeast>

On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 08:33:49 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote: 

> On the Receive tab of the set the 'receive size limit'.

I missed out critical words here, what I meant was:
On the Receive tab of the account preferences set the 'receive size
limit'. (In case you hadn't already worked that out)

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan  3 00:51:27 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 23:51:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2802] Display headers in message view when rendering
	with Fancy
In-Reply-To: <bug-2802-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2802-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2802-595-eLIjGcP60b@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2802

--- Comment #5 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Created attachment 1214
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1214&action=edit
Override header pane visibility setting

Attached patch adds a checkbox to fancy preferences which, if enabled,
overrides the Claws Mail setting (whether or not to display header pane) if a
message is rendered with Fancy, and displays it anyway.

It would probably be a good idea to also add a tooltip for the checkbox
explaining a bit more what the option does. The checkbox text now reads simply
"Override header pane visibility setting". I can add that if Salvatore approves
of this patch. :)

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From rsv869 at roadrunner.com  Thu Jan  3 01:59:21 2013
From: rsv869 at roadrunner.com (RSV-RR)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 19:59:21 -0500
Subject: [Users] Fw: Fw: a few questions from a new user - recover using
 archive ?
Message-ID: <20130102195921.610d9a9d@rsv-linux>

just wondering if anyone has ideas about this error that presents after
running a CLAWS-mail script to convert Evolution-created .vcf file to a
CLAWS-mail address book.

Is this pilot error because of the way I'm executing it, or in the script?

If it's me (I can fully believe that) how should this .py be executed
from the command line?


reid at rsv-linux:~/Temp$ ls -l
total 13300
-rw-rw-r-- 1 reid reid   91508 Dec 14 21:49 Addresses2.vcf
drwxr-xr-x 2 reid reid    4096 Dec 31 14:20 claws-mail-vcard2xml
drwxrwxr-x 3 reid reid    4096 Dec 31 12:27 home
-rw-rw-r-- 1 reid reid 6068177 Dec 31 09:57 inbox-archive
-rwxrwxrwx 1 reid reid 7349689 Dec 31 12:09 inbox-archive2
-rw-rw-r-- 1 reid reid   91508 Dec 31 15:22 list.vcf
reid at rsv-linux:~/Temp$ 
reid at rsv-linux:~/Temp$ 
reid at rsv-linux:~/Temp$ 
reid at rsv-linux:~/Temp$ python claws-mail-vcard2xml/./vcard2xml.py list.vcf 
  File "claws-mail-vcard2xml/./vcard2xml.py", line 4
SyntaxError: Non-ASCII character '\xa9' in file claws-mail-vcard2xml/./vcard2xml.py on line 5, but no encoding declared; see http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0263.html for details
reid at rsv-linux:~/Temp$ 


Thx

Reid



Begin forwarded message:

Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:35:56 -0500
From: RSV-RR <rsv869 at roadrunner.com>
To: Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk>
Cc: Claws ML <users at lists.claws-mail.org>
Subject: Re: [Users] Fw: a few questions from a new user - recover
using archive ?


Hello group-

Thanks for your earlier reply.  I'm good with the explanation for
archiving.  

As for importing, I followed the link to documentation and found a
possible solution for importing the Evolution Address book using a .py
script.  Never used Python that before so I looked at the instructions
and searched 'net.  Best attempt looked like below, but with error
message.  It could be pilot error (always my first assumption) or
something else I can't fix?




reid at rsv-linux:~/Temp/claws-mail-vcard2xml$ python
vcard2xml.py /Home/Temp/list.vcf File "vcard2xml.py", line 4
SyntaxError: Non-ASCII character '\xa9' in file vcard2xml.py on line 5,
but no encoding declared; see http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0263.html
for details



thanks

Reid



On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:41:15 +0000
Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 21:35:58 -0500
> RSV-RR <rsv869 at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello RSV-RR,
> 
> >Sent this note a few days ago and didn't get any response.
> 
> Ricardo answered;
> 
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2012-December/005013.html
> 
> -- 
>  Regards  _
>          / )           "The blindingly obvious is
>         / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
> Now I found you out, I don't think you're so smart
> Who Are You - Black Sabbath
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan  3 10:26:13 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 09:26:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2848] New: Add support for GnuTLS priority string
Message-ID: <bug-2848-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2848

            Bug ID: 2848
           Summary: Add support for GnuTLS priority string
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: CVS
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: SMTP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: darko at users.sf.net

Created attachment 1215
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1215&action=edit
Add support for GnuTLS priority string

Rationale behind this enhancement is my ISP's badly configured SMTP server
which requires a special GnuTLS priority string to be able to send mail. I hope
it might help others who experience similar problems. The attached patch adds a
new entry on the account's advanced preferences page where user can enter the
GnuTLS priority string. This is only implemented for SMTP sessions in the patch
but can be easily extended for POP3.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan  3 20:46:06 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 19:46:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2552] in automatic checking,
 enable the use of different time intervals
In-Reply-To: <bug-2552-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2552-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2552-595-mPW0iVyXKH@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2552

Abhay S. Kushwaha <clawsmail at kushwaha.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |clawsmail at kushwaha.com

--- Comment #27 from Abhay S. Kushwaha <clawsmail at kushwaha.com> ---
Hey Yed, I hope you've not given up on this. :)

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From crlipton at gol.com  Fri Jan  4 03:42:10 2013
From: crlipton at gol.com (Charles Lipton)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 11:42:10 +0900
Subject: [Users] Filtering Issue - SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <mailman.341.1355908926.891.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
References: <mailman.341.1355908926.891.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
Message-ID: <20130104114210.10cea34b@onk-01>

On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:22:06 +0100
users-request at lists.claws-mail.org wrote:

> Turn on the Filtering Log on the /Other/Logging page of the prefs,
> then view the log via /Tools/Filtering Log in the main window. This
> should tell you something useful about the failure of your filtering.
> Feel free to post the log output here if you cannot make sense of it.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul

I just wanted to report back that I took Paul's suggestion to turn on
the Filtering Log and check output for several days.  Filtering Log
showed that my setup was correct and that there were no conflicts
apparent.  However, no sorting was taking place and Bogofilter did not
seem to be learning from my Spam / Ham settings.  

I have always biased my spam sorting and reporting toward blacklisting
but saw that Bogofilter is biased toward whitelists.  So, I checked the
Configuration -> Preferences -> Bogofilter -> "Learn whitelisted emails
as ham" ... and the filtering / sorting issues went away.  

For me, this is a change from the previous settings I used for
Bogofilter in earlier versions of Claws Mail.  Perhaps this will help
someone else.  Unfortunately, Christmas turned into New Year and I
hadn't had a chance to report back.  

BTW, I'd like to thank Brad Rogers for his warning that turning on
Filtering Manager could slow down the mail import process.  It had no
noticeable effect on my two POP3 accounts, but there was a definite
slowdown  on the one IMAP account connect to.

-- 
Charles Lipton
crlipton at gol.com


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan  4 11:22:52 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 10:22:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2849] New: Crash during filtering in IMAP folder
Message-ID: <bug-2849-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2849

            Bug ID: 2849
           Summary: Crash during filtering in IMAP folder
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: arvidjaar at gmail.com

openSUSE 12.2 x86_64.

I am using GMail IMAP account, no local mail. I entered folder and typed in
filter string. At some point between string has been entered and I pressed
Search button Claws Mail crashed. Here is information from pop-up window:

Claws Mail version 3.8.1
GTK+ version 2.24.10 / GLib 2.32.4
Locale: ru_RU.utf8 (charset: UTF-8)
Features: IPv6 iconv compface GnuTLS LDAP JPilot GNU/aspell libetpan libSM
Operating system: Linux 3.4.11-2.16-desktop (x86_64)
C Library: GNU libc 2.15
--
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
Using host libthread_db library "/lib64/libthread_db.so.1".
[New Thread 0x7fa07451c700 (LWP 14857)]
0x00007fa08083ed17 in __libc_waitpid (pid=<optimized out>, stat_loc=<optimized
out>, options=<optimized out>) at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/waitpid.c:41
#0  0x00007fa08083ed17 in __libc_waitpid (pid=<optimized out>,
stat_loc=<optimized out>, options=<optimized out>) at
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/waitpid.c:41
        resultvar = <optimized out>
        oldtype = 0
        result = <optimized out>
#1  0x00000000004892fb in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#2  <signal handler called>
No locals.
#3  0x00007fa07fad0624 in g_hash_table_lookup () from
/usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#4  0x00000000005421f3 in procmime_mimeinfo_get_parameter ()
No symbol table info available.
#5  0x0000000000543d4a in procmime_get_tmp_file_name ()
No symbol table info available.
#6  0x00000000004e0bf2 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#7  0x00000000004e67d3 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#8  0x000000000056ae1c in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#9  0x00007fa08214d9d9 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#10 0x00007fa07fd9d700 in g_closure_invoke () from
/usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#11 0x00007fa07fdae770 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#12 0x00007fa07fdb62fb in g_signal_emit_valist () from
/usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#13 0x00007fa07fdb6872 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#14 0x00007fa08226553e in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#15 0x00007fa082279e9b in gtk_window_propagate_key_event () from
/usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#16 0x00007fa08227c80b in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#17 0x00007fa08214d9d9 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#18 0x00007fa07fd9d700 in g_closure_invoke () from
/usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#19 0x00007fa07fdae4f0 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#20 0x00007fa07fdb62fb in g_signal_emit_valist () from
/usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#21 0x00007fa07fdb6872 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#22 0x00007fa08226553e in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#23 0x00007fa08214be47 in gtk_propagate_event () from
/usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#24 0x00007fa08214c0cb in gtk_main_do_event () from
/usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#25 0x00007fa081db7cbc in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#26 0x00007fa07fae03b5 in g_main_context_dispatch () from
/usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#27 0x00007fa07fae06e8 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#28 0x00007fa07fae0ae2 in g_main_loop_run () from /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#29 0x00007fa08214b0d7 in gtk_main () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#30 0x000000000044ffee in main ()
No symbol table info available.
Kill the program being debugged? (y or n) [answered Y; input not from terminal]

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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Fri Jan  4 10:47:02 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 09:47:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] Filtering Issue - SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <20130104114210.10cea34b@onk-01>
References: <mailman.341.1355908926.891.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
	<20130104114210.10cea34b@onk-01>
Message-ID: <20130104094702.5c440fd3@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 11:42:10 +0900
Charles Lipton <crlipton at gol.com> wrote:

Hello Charles,

>BTW, I'd like to thank Brad Rogers for his warning that turning on
>Filtering Manager could slow down the mail import process.  It had no

YW.

>noticeable effect on my two POP3 accounts, but there was a definite

You're lucky;  I have over 100 filter rules, and if I have to turn on
logging, there's a massive slowdown, even on POP3.

Glad you're all sorted now.

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        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan  4 12:36:05 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 11:36:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2849] Crash during filtering in IMAP folder
In-Reply-To: <bug-2849-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2849-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2849-595-8IZD4Z1c9V@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2849

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
          Component|Other                       |QuickSearch
         Resolution|---                         |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
There have been changes to this component in 3.9.0. If you can reproduce this
with the latest release (currently 3.9.0) please re-open this item.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan  4 12:46:10 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 11:46:10 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2552] in automatic checking,
 enable the use of different time intervals
In-Reply-To: <bug-2552-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2552-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2552-595-zZ3WFoPdgw@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2552

--- Comment #28 from Yed <yedvilun at gmail.com> ---
Thanks Abhay :)
I have not given up (not yet), but (sadly) reaching the last goal is not a
priority for the moment.
I hope I will be back on this soon, but everyone can contribute :).

And happy new year !
Regards,
Yed.

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From boudiccas at talktalk.net  Fri Jan  4 14:32:21 2013
From: boudiccas at talktalk.net (Sharon Kimble)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 13:32:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] claws-mail-plugins
Message-ID: <20130104133221.2bb3bb98@London.dlink.com>

I am getting a new computer next week and am planning ahead and will
be going to use a 're-install' script. So I'm wondering does
claws-mail-plugins encompass *all* the available plugins which would
save installing them by hand? 

Does this make sense please?

Thanks
Sharon.
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From ricardo at mones.org  Fri Jan  4 16:08:52 2013
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 16:08:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] claws-mail-plugins
In-Reply-To: <20130104133221.2bb3bb98@London.dlink.com>
References: <20130104133221.2bb3bb98@London.dlink.com>
Message-ID: <20130104160852.1b92ec1c@busgosu>

On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 13:32:21 +0000
Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote:

> I am getting a new computer next week and am planning ahead and will
> be going to use a 're-install' script. So I'm wondering does
> claws-mail-plugins encompass *all* the available plugins which would
> save installing them by hand? 
> 
> Does this make sense please?

  Not to me, certainly, as seems too much context has been left out, but
  I'll make my bet:

  If you're asking if claws-mail-plugins Debian package installs all the
  plugins available (in Debian) the answer is no. You have to install
  also claws-mail-extra-plugins package. And of course there's plugins
  available on CVS but not on Debian, which you could build and install too.

  If not, please elaborate a bit more ;)

  regards,
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  today.                                           /usr/games/fortune
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan  4 16:25:11 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 15:25:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2802] Display headers in message view when rendering
	with Fancy
In-Reply-To: <bug-2802-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2802-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2802-595-LV4zEVy1WQ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2802

Salvatore De Paolis <iwkse at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |iwkse at claws-mail.org

--- Comment #6 from Salvatore De Paolis <iwkse at claws-mail.org> ---
Hi,
personally I don't find it a good solution.
The header pane can be enabled and it would work for text and html as well.
So basically, there's already something that works, just enabling the header
pane view.
I've had a private email talk with someone who was asking almost the same thing
but this time showing exactly the same header information of the text message.
I've been working on a patch and it's almost done, but due to time leak that's
not yet ready.
With that patch the header will behave the same way as in text messages.

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From boudiccas at talktalk.net  Fri Jan  4 16:36:24 2013
From: boudiccas at talktalk.net (Sharon Kimble)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 15:36:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] claws-mail-plugins
In-Reply-To: <20130104160852.1b92ec1c@busgosu>
References: <20130104133221.2bb3bb98@London.dlink.com>
	<20130104160852.1b92ec1c@busgosu>
Message-ID: <20130104153624.19f1e528@London.dlink.com>

On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 16:08:52 +0100
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 13:32:21 +0000
> Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote:
> 
> > I am getting a new computer next week and am planning ahead and will
> > be going to use a 're-install' script. So I'm wondering does
> > claws-mail-plugins encompass *all* the available plugins which would
> > save installing them by hand? 
> > 
> > Does this make sense please?
> 
>   Not to me, certainly, as seems too much context has been left out,
> but I'll make my bet:
> 
>   If you're asking if claws-mail-plugins Debian package installs all
> the plugins available (in Debian) the answer is no. You have to
> install also claws-mail-extra-plugins package. And of course there's
> plugins available on CVS but not on Debian, which you could build and
> install too.
> 
Thanks for this, I had missed claws-mail-extra-plugins when I did a
apt-cache search, but its now entered into my script ready for
re installation. I'll leave the CVS plugins for the moment thanks, I may
install them later once things are up and running properly, but we'll
see. 

>   If not, please elaborate a bit more ;)
> 
>   regards,

Not a lot to say really, if my reinstall script works like I want
then I'll clean it up and blog it, just got to wait now for the new
machine to be delivered on Monday.

Thanks
Sharon.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan  4 20:00:09 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 19:00:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2850] New: Shared-mime-info specification is not
	followed
Message-ID: <bug-2850-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2850

            Bug ID: 2850
           Summary: Shared-mime-info specification is not followed
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.9.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: the_jk at yahoo.com

Created attachment 1216
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1216&action=edit
Patch

The current implementation in src/procmime.c for reading the shared-mime-info
glob files only look in one single directory, a hardcoded default (/usr/share
on linux).

It should look in all of $XDG_DATA_HOME:$XDG_DATA_DIRS and fallback to defaults
$HOME/.local/share and /usr/share if those are not set combining the result as
it goes.

I attach patch that tries to do this.

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From rod_myers at fastmail.fm  Sat Jan  5 03:26:06 2013
From: rod_myers at fastmail.fm (Rodney D. Myers)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 21:26:06 -0500
Subject: [Users] GData plugin
Message-ID: <20130104212606.4d30536b@rodney-desktop>

What does this plugin do?

-- 
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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
        Ben Franklin - 1759
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From boudiccas at talktalk.net  Sat Jan  5 03:37:53 2013
From: boudiccas at talktalk.net (Sharon Kimble)
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 02:37:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] GData plugin
In-Reply-To: <20130104212606.4d30536b@rodney-desktop>
References: <20130104212606.4d30536b@rodney-desktop>
Message-ID: <20130105023753.6f339b92@London.dlink.com>

On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 21:26:06 -0500
"Rodney D. Myers" <rod_myers at fastmail.fm> wrote:

> What does this plugin do?
> 
This plugin provides access to the GData protocol for Claws Mail.

The GData protocol is an interface to Google services.
Currently, the only implemented functionality is to include Google
Contacts into the Tab-address completion.

Feedback to <berndth at gmx.de> is welcome.

Version: 0.5

Sharon.
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From rod_myers at fastmail.fm  Sat Jan  5 03:53:11 2013
From: rod_myers at fastmail.fm (Rodney D. Myers)
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 21:53:11 -0500
Subject: [Users] GData plugin
In-Reply-To: <20130105023753.6f339b92@London.dlink.com>
References: <20130104212606.4d30536b@rodney-desktop>
	<20130105023753.6f339b92@London.dlink.com>
Message-ID: <20130104215311.51b2c885@rodney-desktop>

On Sat, 5 Jan 2013 02:37:53 +0000
Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote:

>  [...]  
> This plugin provides access to the GData protocol for Claws Mail.
> 
> The GData protocol is an interface to Google services.
> Currently, the only implemented functionality is to include Google
> Contacts into the Tab-address completion.
> 
> Feedback to <berndth at gmx.de> is welcome.
> 
> Version: 0.5
> 
> Sharon.

Thank you for the explanation.

I do not see how to "import" the address book though. Where does a
person access this ability?

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From berndth at gmx.de  Sat Jan  5 11:32:53 2013
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 11:32:53 +0100
Subject: [Users] GData plugin
In-Reply-To: <20130104215311.51b2c885@rodney-desktop>
References: <20130104212606.4d30536b@rodney-desktop>
	<20130105023753.6f339b92@London.dlink.com>
	<20130104215311.51b2c885@rodney-desktop>
Message-ID: <20130105113253.590ff2a9@wodan>

On Fr, 04.01.2013 21:53, Rodney D. Myers wrote:

>I do not see how to "import" the address book though.

It doesn't let you import the address book into Claws Mail's
addressbook.

>Where does a person access this ability?

You load the plugin, and enter your GMail login credentials on the
preferences page. From then on, the plugin will add the addresses from
your GMail account to the address completion list, so you have them
available everywhere where this list is used. Most prominently, this is
during TAB address completion when composing messages (start typing a
name or address in the To field, and press TAB). But e.g. the filtering
based on address book is also based on this list, so it works there too.

Holger
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From rod_myers at fastmail.fm  Sat Jan  5 13:05:16 2013
From: rod_myers at fastmail.fm (Rodney D. Myers)
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 07:05:16 -0500
Subject: [Users] GData plugin
In-Reply-To: <20130105113253.590ff2a9@wodan>
References: <20130104212606.4d30536b@rodney-desktop>
	<20130105023753.6f339b92@London.dlink.com>
	<20130104215311.51b2c885@rodney-desktop>
	<20130105113253.590ff2a9@wodan>
Message-ID: <20130105070516.1bf43518@rodney-desktop>

On Sat, 5 Jan 2013 11:32:53 +0100
Holger Berndt <berndth at gmx.de> wrote:

> On Fr, 04.01.2013 21:53, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
> 
>  [...]  
> 
> It doesn't let you import the address book into Claws Mail's
> addressbook.
> 
>  [...]  
> 
> You load the plugin, and enter your GMail login credentials on the
> preferences page. From then on, the plugin will add the addresses from
> your GMail account to the address completion list, so you have them
> available everywhere where this list is used. Most prominently, this
> is during TAB address completion when composing messages (start
> typing a name or address in the To field, and press TAB). But e.g.
> the filtering based on address book is also based on this list, so it
> works there too.
> 
> Holger

thank you for the explanation

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From exsudat at gmx.de  Sun Jan  6 13:59:04 2013
From: exsudat at gmx.de (exsudat)
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 13:59:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] move mailbox
Message-ID: <20130106130020.22A2E8542F@mx.colino.net>

I have two mailboxes/accounts configured to $HOME/mailboxA and
$HOME/mailboxB.

I want to move them to $HOME/.claws_mailbox/mailbox[A,B]
But of course Claws-Mails itself need to know that. But in the config
dialog I can not find any option about that. I only can specifiy the
Inbox folder.


From ciamarie at my180.net  Sun Jan  6 18:11:54 2013
From: ciamarie at my180.net (Cia Watson)
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 09:11:54 -0800
Subject: [Users] move mailbox
In-Reply-To: <20130106130020.22A2E8542F@mx.colino.net>
References: <20130106130020.22A2E8542F@mx.colino.net>
Message-ID: <20130106091154.30476704@my180.net>

On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 13:59:04 +0100
exsudat <exsudat at gmx.de> wrote:

> I have two mailboxes/accounts configured to $HOME/mailboxA and
> $HOME/mailboxB.
> 
> I want to move them to $HOME/.claws_mailbox/mailbox[A,B]
> But of course Claws-Mails itself need to know that. But in the config
> dialog I can not find any option about that. I only can specifiy the
> Inbox folder.

You will find the option to 'Add Mailbox' under the File menu. Hopefully
that will do what you want to add the 2nd one? Or under the Configuration
menu you can create a new account, and specify a separate mailbox folder
(under the Mail MH folder). 

One of those should do the trick. ?

Cia W.
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From jerry at seibercom.net  Mon Jan  7 21:06:07 2013
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 15:06:07 -0500
Subject: [Users] Address Book Problem
Message-ID: <20130107150607.4b6f24e1@scorpio>

For the past two days, every time I start "claws-mail", I receive an
error message: 

	"Addressbook conversion error"
	New user, could not save index file.

I have attached a copy of the error message. I don't know if it will
survive the trip though.

I have not been able to figure out what is causing this problem or how
to correct it.

My main address book is an LDAP server; however, that configuration is
lost also when I restart claws-mail. Even after reconfiguring the
address book, LDAP does not work correctly. It will not do a "tab"
completion from the "To" line although it will look up addresses
directly from the address book "find" line.

I welcome any suggestions. This is with "claws-mail - 3.9.0".

System Information
GTK+ 2.24.6 / GLib 2.28.8
Locale: C (charset: US-ASCII)
Operating System: FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE (amd64)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan  8 02:23:11 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 01:23:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2851] New: Claws doesn't request CAPABILITY after login
Message-ID: <bug-2851-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2851

            Bug ID: 2851
           Summary: Claws doesn't request CAPABILITY after login
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.9.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders/IMAP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: jch at pps.jussieu.fr

Claws should request CAPABILITY a second time after completing login.

A lot of servers (notably Dovecot) advertise a different set of pre-login
capabilities.  Claws doesn't re-request CAPABILITIES after login, which causes
it to miss out on fancy features of the server.

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.


From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Tue Jan  8 02:58:56 2013
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 17:58:56 -0800
Subject: [Users] Sorting message list on 2 columns
Message-ID: <20130107175856.5cab6c11@from-theboss.911networks.com>

Hi,

I use CM 390 on xUbuntu 12.04. Is it possible to sort the message
list on more than one column. For example:

1: by To
2: then by Date

and since I'm at it. Is there a way of displaying in the message list
when the message was received by the mail server?

Thanks

-- 
Thanks
http://www.911networks.com
When the network has to work


From rsv869 at roadrunner.com  Tue Jan  8 04:04:17 2013
From: rsv869 at roadrunner.com (RSV-RR)
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 22:04:17 -0500
Subject: [Users] error running vcard2xml.py - still hoping for reply
Message-ID: <20130107220417.68a2d324@rsv-linux>

Hello group -


I'm trying to run your Python script (vcard2xml.py) but am getting the
error shown below.  I have no experience running this kind of script so
I'm wondering if it's something I'm doing wrong.  Can you help?

thanks

Reid



reid at rsv-linux:~/Temp$ ls -l
total 13304
-rw-rw-r-- 1 reid reid   91508 Dec 14 21:49 Addresses2.vcf
drwxr-xr-x 2 reid reid    4096 Dec 31 14:20 claws-mail-vcard2xml
drwxrwxr-x 3 reid reid    4096 Dec 31 12:27 home
-rw-rw-r-- 1 reid reid 6068177 Dec 31 09:57 inbox-archive
-rwxrwxrwx 1 reid reid 7349689 Dec 31 12:09 inbox-archive2
-rw-rw-r-- 1 reid reid   91508 Dec 31 15:22 list.vcf
drwxrwxr-x 3 reid reid    4096 Jan  4 21:38 tether
reid at rsv-linux:~/Temp$ 
reid at rsv-linux:~/Temp$ python claws-mail-vcard2xml/vcard2xml.py list.vcf
  File "claws-mail-vcard2xml/vcard2xml.py", line 4
SyntaxError: Non-ASCII character '\xa9' in file
claws-mail-vcard2xml/vcard2xml.py on line 5, but no encoding declared;
see http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0263.html for details
reid at rsv-linux:~/Temp$ 



From claws-mail at karatemuffin.it  Tue Jan  8 04:07:24 2013
From: claws-mail at karatemuffin.it (Trenkwalder Christian)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 04:07:24 +0100
Subject: [Users] Sorting message list on 2 columns
In-Reply-To: <20130107175856.5cab6c11@from-theboss.911networks.com>
References: <20130107175856.5cab6c11@from-theboss.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20130108040724.00004e6e@unknown>

As far is i know, Claws will sort automatically by date, so you cant
combine for example <To> and <Subject>.

The Columns shown in the message list, can be changed from the Menu: 
View -> Shown Columns -> message list..
<Date> corresponds to the time your mailserver received the message.

If you need more information on your mail, you can display the full
Header by using CTRL+H.






Am Mon, 7 Jan 2013 17:58:56 -0800
schrieb sylpheed at 911networks.com:

> Hi,
> 
> I use CM 390 on xUbuntu 12.04. Is it possible to sort the message
> list on more than one column. For example:
> 
> 1: by To
> 2: then by Date
> 
> and since I'm at it. Is there a way of displaying in the message list
> when the message was received by the mail server?
> 
> Thanks
> 



From penn43 at gmx.com  Tue Jan  8 08:44:35 2013
From: penn43 at gmx.com (penn43 at gmx.com)
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 08:44:35 +0100
Subject: [Users] Plugin which shows an email's geographical origin
Message-ID: <50EBCE63.5090205@gmx.com>

Hello,

is there a Claws Mail plugin which automatically shows an email's 
geographical origin, based on the IP embedded in the headers?
BTW, I don't care about the rout or the intermediate passages. I need 
only the origin.

Thank you

--Penn


From kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com  Tue Jan  8 08:57:20 2013
From: kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com (Abhay S. Kushwaha)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 13:27:20 +0530
Subject: [Users] Plugin which shows an email's geographical origin
In-Reply-To: <50EBCE63.5090205@gmx.com>
References: <50EBCE63.5090205@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <20130108132720.328f380e@netsolutionsindia.com>

On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 08:44:35 +0100, penn43 at gmx.com wrote:

> is there a Claws Mail plugin which automatically shows an email's
> geographical origin, based on the IP embedded in the headers?

Look up "geolocation" plugin ... in the extras I believe.



From ricardo at mones.org  Tue Jan  8 10:33:10 2013
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 10:33:10 +0100
Subject: [Users] Address Book Problem
In-Reply-To: <20130107150607.4b6f24e1@scorpio>
References: <20130107150607.4b6f24e1@scorpio>
Message-ID: <20130108093310.GE10760@trasgu>

  Hi Jerry,

On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 03:06:07PM -0500, Jerry wrote:
> For the past two days, every time I start "claws-mail", I receive an
> error message: 
> 
> 	"Addressbook conversion error"
> 	New user, could not save index file.
> 
> I have attached a copy of the error message. I don't know if it will
> survive the trip though.
> 
> I have not been able to figure out what is causing this problem or how
> to correct it.
> 
> My main address book is an LDAP server; however, that configuration is
> lost also when I restart claws-mail. Even after reconfiguring the
> address book, LDAP does not work correctly. It will not do a "tab"
> completion from the "To" line although it will look up addresses
> directly from the address book "find" line.
> 
> I welcome any suggestions. This is with "claws-mail - 3.9.0".

  Looks like a problem of permissions, check if your
$HOME/.claws-mail/addrbook directory is writable.

  You can also try "claws-mail --debug" in a terminal emulator and
look for something interesting in the messages before the error.

  regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  The three principal virtues of a programmer are Laziness, 
  Impatience, and Hubris.                                    man perl
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From penn43 at gmx.com  Tue Jan  8 15:48:08 2013
From: penn43 at gmx.com (penn43 at gmx.com)
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 15:48:08 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing Gtk theme
Message-ID: <50EC31A8.8020900@gmx.com>

The question has been asked before 
(http://claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2012-January/000951.html), but 
apparently it received no answer.

How do I change Claws Mail's theme *under Windows*?

Please answer this, because my adoption on CM depends on this!
If it is not possible to change the theme, please say so.

Thanks in advance

--Penn


From colin at colino.net  Tue Jan  8 15:57:16 2013
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 15:57:16 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing Gtk theme
In-Reply-To: <50EC31A8.8020900@gmx.com>
References: <50EC31A8.8020900@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <20130108155716.48de80f3@colin>

On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 15:48:08 +0100, penn43 at gmx.com wrote:

> Please answer this, because my adoption on CM depends on this!
> If it is not possible to change the theme, please say so.

You'd have to rebuild it. It's hardcoded in main.c around line 1160:

        gtk_settings_set_string_property(gtk_settings_get_default(),
                        "gtk-theme-name",
                        "MS-Windows",
                        "XProperty");
-- 
Colin


From penn43 at gmx.com  Tue Jan  8 20:10:56 2013
From: penn43 at gmx.com (penn43 at gmx.com)
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 20:10:56 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing Gtk theme
In-Reply-To: <20130108165955.1cc854d2@colin>
References: <50EC31A8.8020900@gmx.com> <20130108155716.48de80f3@colin>
	<50EC40AD.30507@gmx.com> <20130108165955.1cc854d2@colin>
Message-ID: <50EC6F40.8020204@gmx.com>

On 08/01/2013 16:59, Colin Leroy wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 16:52:13 +0100, penn43 at gmx.com wrote:
>
>> Hmm... that is not very user-friendly, is it? I don't think I would
>> be able to do what you suggested.
>
> I've added that because GTK's default theme Windows is ugly and does
> not fit the native Window theme.
>
>> Could you please make it more user-friendly in the next release?
>
> I could make that an hidden preference, at most.
>

You see, for me the matter is not about a good-looking or ugly theme. 
It's about colors. My eyes suffer from eyestrain and get sore when I use 
a black-on-white theme. so I need a black or dark theme. It's a 
necessity for me (an for many other users).
As far as I know, the only way to do that in Claws Mail is to change the 
Gtk, that is why I was asking about it.

The ideal solution, at this point, would be: letting the user choose the 
interface colors without having to rely necessarily on the Gtk theme. 
Or, in other words, give the user the option to override the color of 
the Gtk theme, via local settings in the CM menu.
Otherwise, give at least the user an easy way to chose between the Gtk 
themes.
I am not sure what you mean by "hidden preference", but if it does the 
trick and solves the problem, then it's ok by me.
I hope you do it soon.

Thanks for your time

Penn


From colin at colino.net  Tue Jan  8 20:25:28 2013
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 20:25:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing Gtk theme
In-Reply-To: <50EC6F40.8020204@gmx.com>
References: <50EC31A8.8020900@gmx.com> <20130108155716.48de80f3@colin>
	<50EC40AD.30507@gmx.com> <20130108165955.1cc854d2@colin>
	<50EC6F40.8020204@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <20130108202528.747cd644@mike>

On 08 January 2013 at 20h10, penn43 at gmx.com wrote:

Hi, 

> You see, for me the matter is not about a good-looking or ugly theme. 
> It's about colors. My eyes suffer from eyestrain and get sore when I
> use a black-on-white theme. so I need a black or dark theme. It's a 
> necessity for me (an for many other users).
> As far as I know, the only way to do that in Claws Mail is to change
> the Gtk, that is why I was asking about it.

I understand. I thought the GTK "Windows" rendering engine would follow
Windows' own theme, but apparently iy doesn't...

> I am not sure what you mean by "hidden preference", but if it does
> the trick and solves the problem, then it's ok by me.

It means you'll have to edit a file to change the theme's name to use...
-- 
Colin
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From penn43 at gmx.com  Tue Jan  8 20:27:23 2013
From: penn43 at gmx.com (penn43 at gmx.com)
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 20:27:23 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing Gtk theme
In-Reply-To: <20130108202528.747cd644@mike>
References: <50EC31A8.8020900@gmx.com> <20130108155716.48de80f3@colin>
	<50EC40AD.30507@gmx.com> <20130108165955.1cc854d2@colin>
	<50EC6F40.8020204@gmx.com> <20130108202528.747cd644@mike>
Message-ID: <50EC731B.6020907@gmx.com>

On 08/01/2013 20:25, Colin Leroy wrote:
> On 08 January 2013 at 20h10, penn43 at gmx.com wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>> You see, for me the matter is not about a good-looking or ugly theme.
>> It's about colors. My eyes suffer from eyestrain and get sore when I
>> use a black-on-white theme. so I need a black or dark theme. It's a
>> necessity for me (an for many other users).
>> As far as I know, the only way to do that in Claws Mail is to change
>> the Gtk, that is why I was asking about it.
>
> I understand. I thought the GTK "Windows" rendering engine would follow
> Windows' own theme, but apparently iy doesn't...
>
>> I am not sure what you mean by "hidden preference", but if it does
>> the trick and solves the problem, then it's ok by me.
>
> It means you'll have to edit a file to change the theme's name to use...

That's fine. No problem with that. I look forward to seeing this 
implemented.
Thanks, Colin.



From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Tue Jan  8 21:14:40 2013
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 15:14:40 -0500
Subject: [Users] Changing Gtk theme
In-Reply-To: <20130108202528.747cd644@mike>
References: <50EC31A8.8020900@gmx.com> <20130108155716.48de80f3@colin>
	<50EC40AD.30507@gmx.com> <20130108165955.1cc854d2@colin>
	<50EC6F40.8020204@gmx.com> <20130108202528.747cd644@mike>
Message-ID: <20130108151440.00006521@unknown>

On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 20:25:28 +0100
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

> It means you'll have to edit a file to change the theme's name to
> use...

And install the GTK+ theme that you want because the Windows builds
include only a very small number themes. And you have to install them
by hand in the correct places because the Windows builds include their
own private GTK+ libraries.

I've still not managed to get the full toolchain to build natively on
Windows. libetpan won't build properly with the Cygwin tools and GnuPG
builds fail with the MinGW tools. If I can figure out how to make this
work then it will make a bunch of little problems go away.

I hope. :)

-- 
Rich P.


From mir at miras.org  Wed Jan  9 01:26:31 2013
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 01:26:31 +0100
Subject: [Users] error running vcard2xml.py - still hoping for reply
Message-ID: <20130109012631.21aae610@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 19:07:58 -0500
RSV-RR <rsv869 at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> Hello Michael and Tristan -
> 
> Not sure how to get this resolved.....
> 
> reid at rsv-linux:~/Temp$ python claws-mail-vcard2xml/vcard2xml.py list.vcf
>   File "claws-mail-vcard2xml/vcard2xml.py", line 4
> SyntaxError: Non-ASCII character '\xa9' in file
> claws-mail-vcard2xml/vcard2xml.py on line 5, but no encoding declared;
> see http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0263.html for details  
Simply by doing this
1) Replace first line
#!/usr/bin/python2.2
2) with
#!/usr/bin/python2.2
# -*- coding: latin-1 -*-

Fix can also be found in
http://claws-mail.org/tracker/getpatchset.php?ver=3.9.0cvs53


-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917
--------------------------------------------------------------
... [concerning quotation marks] even if we *___did* quote anybody
in this business, it probably would be gibberish.
		-- Thom McLeod
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From colin at colino.net  Wed Jan  9 07:04:42 2013
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 07:04:42 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing Gtk theme
In-Reply-To: <20130108151440.00006521@unknown>
References: <50EC31A8.8020900@gmx.com> <20130108155716.48de80f3@colin>
	<50EC40AD.30507@gmx.com> <20130108165955.1cc854d2@colin>
	<50EC6F40.8020204@gmx.com> <20130108202528.747cd644@mike>
	<20130108151440.00006521@unknown>
Message-ID: <20130109070442.508fece9@colin>

On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 15:14:40 -0500, Rich Pieri <richard.pieri at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I've still not managed to get the full toolchain to build natively on
> Windows. libetpan won't build properly with the Cygwin tools and GnuPG
> builds fail with the MinGW tools. If I can figure out how to make this
> work then it will make a bunch of little problems go away.

Did you use Gpg4win's repository or ours ? I can't build anything from
them since a few months either, so I've been forced to diverge and the
version I provide builds from is at http://claws-mail.org/cvs.php (see
complete bottom of page).

HTH,
-- 
Colin


From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Wed Jan  9 16:58:30 2013
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 10:58:30 -0500
Subject: [Users] Changing Gtk theme
In-Reply-To: <20130109070442.508fece9@colin>
References: <50EC31A8.8020900@gmx.com> <20130108155716.48de80f3@colin>
	<50EC40AD.30507@gmx.com> <20130108165955.1cc854d2@colin>
	<50EC6F40.8020204@gmx.com> <20130108202528.747cd644@mike>
	<20130108151440.00006521@unknown> <20130109070442.508fece9@colin>
Message-ID: <20130109105830.00000c8f@unknown>

On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 07:04:42 +0100
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

> Did you use Gpg4win's repository or ours ?

Neither. I went to the authoritative sources for the various
components other than the compilers and related tools which come from
the respective development environments.

-- 
Rich P.


From colin at colino.net  Wed Jan  9 17:05:43 2013
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 17:05:43 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing Gtk theme
In-Reply-To: <20130109105830.00000c8f@unknown>
References: <50EC31A8.8020900@gmx.com> <20130108155716.48de80f3@colin>
	<50EC40AD.30507@gmx.com> <20130108165955.1cc854d2@colin>
	<50EC6F40.8020204@gmx.com> <20130108202528.747cd644@mike>
	<20130108151440.00006521@unknown> <20130109070442.508fece9@colin>
	<20130109105830.00000c8f@unknown>
Message-ID: <20130109170543.054b7520@colin>

On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 10:58:30 -0500, Rich Pieri <richard.pieri at gmail.com>
wrote:

> > Did you use Gpg4win's repository or ours ?  
> 
> Neither. I went to the authoritative sources for the various
> components other than the compilers and related tools which come from
> the respective development environments.

You're asking for trouble - apart if you're doing that for the
purpose of learning the joys, traps and pitfalls of cross-building :)

Try our builder, it goes to the authoritative sources too, but it
automates the whole painful stuff.

-- 
Colin


From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Wed Jan  9 17:54:01 2013
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 11:54:01 -0500
Subject: [Users] Changing Gtk theme
In-Reply-To: <20130109170543.054b7520@colin>
References: <50EC31A8.8020900@gmx.com> <20130108155716.48de80f3@colin>
	<50EC40AD.30507@gmx.com> <20130108165955.1cc854d2@colin>
	<50EC6F40.8020204@gmx.com> <20130108202528.747cd644@mike>
	<20130108151440.00006521@unknown> <20130109070442.508fece9@colin>
	<20130109105830.00000c8f@unknown> <20130109170543.054b7520@colin>
Message-ID: <20130109115401.00005f7c@unknown>

On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 17:05:43 +0100
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

> You're asking for trouble - apart if you're doing that for the
> purpose of learning the joys, traps and pitfalls of cross-building :)

I'm not cross-building. I'm native building inasmuch as MinGW and
Cygwin on Windows are native.

My goal is to see if I can take Debian out of the loop for Windows
builds. I've not yet tried running the automated build in the MinGW or
Cygwin environments. I wanted to see what breaks with a manual build
process before I decide if it's worth the effort of making the
automated build work natively.

-- 
Rich P.


From rsv869 at roadrunner.com  Thu Jan 10 01:50:48 2013
From: rsv869 at roadrunner.com (RSV-RR)
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 19:50:48 -0500
Subject: [Users] error running vcard2xml.py - still hoping for reply
In-Reply-To: <20130109012631.21aae610@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20130109012631.21aae610@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20130109195048.4a60e868@rsv-linux>

On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 01:26:31 +0100
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 19:07:58 -0500
> RSV-RR <rsv869 at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hello Michael and Tristan -
> > 
> > Not sure how to get this resolved.....
> > 
> > reid at rsv-linux:~/Temp$ python claws-mail-vcard2xml/vcard2xml.py list.vcf
> >   File "claws-mail-vcard2xml/vcard2xml.py", line 4
> > SyntaxError: Non-ASCII character '\xa9' in file
> > claws-mail-vcard2xml/vcard2xml.py on line 5, but no encoding declared;
> > see http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0263.html for details  
> Simply by doing this
> 1) Replace first line
> #!/usr/bin/python2.2
> 2) with
> #!/usr/bin/python2.2
> # -*- coding: latin-1 -*-
> 
> Fix can also be found in
> http://claws-mail.org/tracker/getpatchset.php?ver=3.9.0cvs53
> 
> 
> -- 
> Hilsen/Regards
> Michael Rasmussen
> 
> Get my public GnuPG keys:
> michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
> mir <at> datanom <dot> net
> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
> mir <at> miras <dot> org
> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ... [concerning quotation marks] even if we *___did* quote anybody
> in this business, it probably would be gibberish.
> 		-- Thom McLeod


Thanks Michael -

made the changes you suggested and have come across this error.
Thoughts welcome.

reid at rsv-linux:~/Temp$ 
reid at rsv-linux:~/Temp$ ls -l
total 13304
-rw-rw-r-- 1 reid reid   91508 Dec 14 21:49 Addresses2.vcf
drwxr-xr-x 2 reid reid    4096 Jan  9 07:13 claws-mail-vcard2xml
drwxrwxr-x 3 reid reid    4096 Dec 31 12:27 home
-rw-rw-r-- 1 reid reid 6068177 Dec 31 09:57 inbox-archive
-rwxrwxrwx 1 reid reid 7349689 Dec 31 12:09 inbox-archive2
-rw-rw-r-- 1 reid reid   91508 Dec 31 15:22 list.vcf
drwxrwxr-x 3 reid reid    4096 Jan  4 21:38 tether
reid at rsv-linux:~/Temp$ 
reid at rsv-linux:~/Temp$ 
reid at rsv-linux:~/Temp$ 
reid at rsv-linux:~/Temp$ python claws-mail-vcard2xml/vcard2xml.py Addresses2.vcf
proccessing...

got exception:  list index out of range
got exception, cleaning up the mess... changed files will be restored...

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "claws-mail-vcard2xml/vcard2xml.py", line 243, in <module>
    execute ()
  File "claws-mail-vcard2xml/vcard2xml.py", line 219, in execute
    os.rename(out_file.name+'.tmp', out_file.name)
OSError: [Errno 20] Not a directory
reid at rsv-linux:~/Temp$ 


Thanks in advance

reid

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From mir at miras.org  Thu Jan 10 02:29:24 2013
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 02:29:24 +0100
Subject: [Users] error running vcard2xml.py - still hoping for reply
In-Reply-To: <20130109195048.4a60e868@rsv-linux>
References: <20130109012631.21aae610@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20130109195048.4a60e868@rsv-linux>
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On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 19:50:48 -0500
RSV-RR <rsv869 at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> 
> made the changes you suggested and have come across this error.
> Thoughts welcome.
> 
It's impossible to tell without having the file you try to convert.
Would in be possible for you to send the file off-list to me?

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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Thu Jan 10 04:02:49 2013
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 22:02:49 -0500
Subject: [Users] Hide deleted messages just stopped working
Message-ID: <20130109220249.2c398cd9@mydesk>

Hi all,

View->Hide_deleted_messages just quit working today, for no reason at
all. I've verified this problem in two different folders, and
closed and reopened Claws between the two. Before today, it worked just
fine.
Preferences_for_current_account->advanced->move_to_trash_and_expunge_immediately
appears to work just fine. As far as I know, I made no changes to Claws
or the Dovecot server Claws is sucking from in a timeframe that would
have caused this change. I'll let you know when I have more information
on this idiosyncrasy.

Thanks,

SteveT

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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Thu Jan 10 04:17:02 2013
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 22:17:02 -0500
Subject: [Users] Hide deleted messages just stopped working :: MORE
 INFORMATION
In-Reply-To: <20130109220249.2c398cd9@mydesk>
References: <20130109220249.2c398cd9@mydesk>
Message-ID: <20130109221702.03310edc@mydesk>

On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 22:02:49 -0500, Steve Litt said:
> Hi all,
> 
> View->Hide_deleted_messages just quit working today, for no reason at
> all. I've verified this problem in two different folders, and
> closed and reopened Claws between the two. Before today, it worked
> just fine.
> Preferences_for_current_account->advanced->move_to_trash_and_expunge_immediately
> appears to work just fine. As far as I know, I made no changes to
> Claws or the Dovecot server Claws is sucking from in a timeframe that
> would have caused this change. I'll let you know when I have more
> information on this idiosyncrasy.

Hi all,

I eliminated the symptom by doing dovecot stop on my dovecot server,
and then dovecot -F to run it in the foreground, after which all the
deleted messages I'd unsuccessfully hidden hid themselves. Also, Empty
Trash works again.

So my current assumption is that this was a dovecot problem.
Unfortunately, I "fixed" it before I could use Thunderbird on it to
verify that both email clients displayed the same symptom, which of
course would have proven almost conclusively that this was a dovecot
problem.

So you can safely ignore this thread -- it appears to have nothing to
do with Claws, unless Claws somehow corrupted Dovecot's process, but
that's kind of a stretch.

Thanks

SteveT

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From inpost at gmail.com  Thu Jan 10 15:17:46 2013
From: inpost at gmail.com (e-letter)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:17:46 +0200
Subject: [Users] date format in messages window
Message-ID: <CAET1fe42Wk623=YYXbPQEHvqSWqVxZS-X3erQOOR=7fsjeXZ-Q@mail.gmail.com>

Readers,

In small screen mode, the messages list window shows the date column
with an undesirable date format (i.e. the bizarre american style!).
How to change?

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From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Thu Jan 10 16:33:32 2013
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 07:33:32 -0800
Subject: [Users] date format in messages window
In-Reply-To: <CAET1fe42Wk623=YYXbPQEHvqSWqVxZS-X3erQOOR=7fsjeXZ-Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAET1fe42Wk623=YYXbPQEHvqSWqVxZS-X3erQOOR=7fsjeXZ-Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20130110073332.3cabd6b1@from-theboss.911networks.com>

On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:17:46 +0200
e-letter <inpost at gmail.com> wrote:

>Readers,
>
>In small screen mode, the messages list window shows the date column
>with an undesirable date format (i.e. the bizarre american style!).
>How to change?

Configuration > Preferences > Display > Summaries > Date format

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From pf at pfortin.com  Fri Jan 11 16:06:53 2013
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 10:06:53 -0500
Subject: [Users] xml_parse_next_tag(): Can't parse next tag
Message-ID: <20130111100653.7a9c11fa@pfortin.com>

Hi,

Been seeing these messages on the console for some time. No apparent
adverse effects; but thought it was time to ask what might be the cause...


** (claws-mail:23304): WARNING **: xml_parse_next_tag(): Can't parse next
tag

** (claws-mail:23304): WARNING **: no node

Thanks,
Pierre


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan 11 17:02:06 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:02:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2852] New: UI hang at BIG send end
Message-ID: <bug-2852-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2852

            Bug ID: 2852
           Summary: UI hang at BIG send end
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: CVS
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: pf at pfortin.com

Created attachment 1217
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1217&action=edit
screen shot of "hung" display

POP3/SMTP only accounts.

Partially out of curiosity, I sent a LARGE email with 24 photos attached
(almost 46MB before encoding).  It appears to have completed the send; but the
interface is now mostly non-responsive.  Clicks and scrolling are ignored.

However, as the mouse moves over the header pane, tooltips showing the Subject
pop up. I can window-shade, lower/raise the window and everything appears
normal except for the otherwise "hung" state.

Not sure if CM is checking mail in bg; but I'm seeing these messages on the
console (messages have been appearing for quite some time, so they appear
"normal"). ===============================
** (claws-mail:23304): WARNING **: xml_parse_next_tag(): Can't parse next tag


** (claws-mail:23304): WARNING **: no node
=================================

In the screen shot, the progress bar is gone, Queue is still showing message,
and status bar still has 'Sending...'

I can leave it for another hour or so in case someone wants me to try
something...

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan 11 19:14:43 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:14:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2853] New: Make raise/lower consistent to prevent
 "apparent" lockups/hangs
Message-ID: <bug-2853-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2853

            Bug ID: 2853
           Summary: Make raise/lower consistent to prevent "apparent"
                    lockups/hangs
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: CVS
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: pf at pfortin.com

Currently, CM raises/lowers (r/l) windows like this:

1. CM only (normal r/l)

2. CM & Compose:
   r/l CM acts only on main window
   r/l Compose acts only on Compose

3. CM & Compose & File Selector (FS)
   r/l CM acts only on main window
   lower Compose acts on Compose & FS in unison
   raise Compose acts on Compose & FS in unison
   lower FS acts on ALL windows in unison  <============ !!
   raise FS acts on Compose & FS in unison

Since CM lowers ALL windows as a set, it should be possible to treat raise
actions on any window as a request to raise ALL windows, thereby eliminating
the risk of "hangs" due to FS.

When using Configuration windows such as Filtering, CM does not allow those to
be lower.  CM's main window can be lowered by itself; but will not raise above
the Filtering windows when raised.   The same logic would be a great
improvement, no?

Thanks!!

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan 11 19:15:15 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:15:15 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2852] UI hang at BIG send end
In-Reply-To: <bug-2852-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2852-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2852-595-UDvUGPkKbM@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2852

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ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!   :) :)

Doing too many things at once...  turns out this was due to a compose window
that I'd started on, started to attach a document; then went off to verify the
document's latest version was saved.  When I came back to CM, I did it by
raising the main window and the compose/attach windows were now hidden.

See bug 2853

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From rshweb at rshweb.com  Sat Jan 12 14:33:28 2013
From: rshweb at rshweb.com (RSH Web Services)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:33:28 -0500
Subject: [Users] Claw Mail on Windows 7
Message-ID: <50F16628.50707@rshweb.com>

Hopefully this is the right place to post this
Im running Claw Mail on Windows 7
Love it so far but
When ever a pop up window opens it opens it on my second monitor
Does not matter if 2nd monitor is on or off, it still tries to open it there
Eudora used to have a docking option for pop up windows
Any way to stop this?
Thanks
Rick

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http://rshweb.com
http://domain.rshweb.com

RSH Web Services



From claws-mail at karatemuffin.it  Sat Jan 12 18:43:16 2013
From: claws-mail at karatemuffin.it (Trenkwalder Christian)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:43:16 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claw Mail on Windows 7
In-Reply-To: <50F16628.50707@rshweb.com>
References: <50F16628.50707@rshweb.com>
Message-ID: <20130112184316.00006ff8@unknown>

I think its a GTK thing.. Opens NEW Windows by default on the monitor
the actual focus belongs to. For OLD Windows eg. drafts the position is
saved and it reopends on the same as closed..
I think some values have to be changed in the source(I would look for
GtkWindow) for that.


Am Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:33:28 -0500
schrieb RSH Web Services <rshweb at rshweb.com>:

> Hopefully this is the right place to post this
> Im running Claw Mail on Windows 7
> Love it so far but
> When ever a pop up window opens it opens it on my second monitor
> Does not matter if 2nd monitor is on or off, it still tries to open
> it there Eudora used to have a docking option for pop up windows
> Any way to stop this?
> Thanks
> Rick
> 
> Web Hosting Services
> Domain Name Registration
> http://rshweb.com
> http://domain.rshweb.com
> 
> RSH Web Services
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jan 12 22:27:48 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 21:27:48 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2854] New: enabling both wordbooks freezes X
Message-ID: <bug-2854-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2854

            Bug ID: 2854
           Summary: enabling both wordbooks freezes X
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.9.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: blocker
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Compose Window/Spell Checker
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: thenadar at gmx.net

How to reproduce:
Open the message composer
Select:
Spelling -> Options -> [ ] Use both dictionaries
Set it to [x] using spacebar.
Result: X is locked. You have to use a tty to kill -14 claws-mail
The only error message claws-mail puts is
(claws-mail:17403): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_event: assertion
`WIDGET_REALIZED_FOR_EVENT (widget, event)' failed

Experienced using claws-mail 3.9.0 on debian sid with Openbox and claws-mail
3.9.0 with i3wm on Gentoo

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 13 19:29:34 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:29:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2855] New: Displays pounds signs incorrectly
Message-ID: <bug-2855-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2855

            Bug ID: 2855
           Summary: Displays pounds signs incorrectly
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Fancy
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: h at realh.co.uk

Order confirmations from Amazon are sent as HTML with this in the html head
section:

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">

Pound signs in the body are shown by the fancy plugin as £ (ie a capital A
with circumflex accent before the pound) which I think is a common symptom of
confusing ISO-8859-1 with UTF-8.

My ISP's webmail via iceweasel (Firefox) and Chrome, icedove (Thunderbird) and
even claws' gtkhtml2 plugin all display the pound signs correctly.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 14 01:46:15 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 00:46:15 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2301] Remove attach plugin should expose conditions
 and actions for filter and processing rules.
In-Reply-To: <bug-2301-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2301-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2301-595-yp4hs8X9gl@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2301

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          Component|Other                       |Plugins/AttRemover

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 14 01:48:09 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 00:48:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2540] Treat <br> variants as newlines on HTML only
	messages
In-Reply-To: <bug-2540-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2540-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2540-595-TAQ8utMlI8@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2540

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 14 10:40:35 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:40:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1594] Add Nostalgy-like shortcuts for moving/copying
	mail
In-Reply-To: <bug-1594-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1594-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1594-595-8nvCq38kvg@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1594

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Typing first letters of folder name already moves the folder selecction to
first  folder which begins with typed letters, which is basically what's
requested here.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 14 10:42:52 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:42:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1975] preference mutt key bindings do not take effect
In-Reply-To: <bug-1975-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1975-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1975-595-D6QtRKuyjw@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1975

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 14 12:39:18 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:39:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2856] New: MONITOR
Message-ID: <bug-2856-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2856

            Bug ID: 2856
           Summary: MONITOR
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: CVS
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 2000
            Status: NEW
          Severity: major
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: rshweb at rshweb.com

Im running Claw Mail on Windows 7
Love it so far but
When ever a pop up window opens it opens it on my second monitor
Does not matter if 2nd monitor is on or off, it still tries to open it there
Eudora used to have a docking option for pop up windows
Any way to stop this?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 14 13:06:53 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:06:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2857] New: Export problem with vCalendar
Message-ID: <bug-2857-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2857

            Bug ID: 2857
           Summary: Export problem with vCalendar
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.9.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows NT
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: daeramir at hotmail.com

With Claws-Mail 3.9 under Windows 7, and vCalendar 2.0.14cvs3, the calendar
export seems not working. I've tried the auto and manual export, and there is
no file created at the specified location. I haven't this problem with the
lastest GNU/Linux version.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 14 19:03:34 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:03:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2242] Claws Opens Windows on Wrong Screen
In-Reply-To: <bug-2242-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2242-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2242-595-J8FZXTMiHG@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2242

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Has any one found a fix for this problem?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jan 16 01:53:05 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:53:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2858] New: undesired filtering to trash automatically
Message-ID: <bug-2858-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2858

            Bug ID: 2858
           Summary: undesired filtering to trash automatically
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P3
         Component: Filtering
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: proge at riseup.net

Hello. 

I have an IMAP email account. A message arrived in my "SPAM" folder, with the
subject starting with ***SPAM***. This was filtered by my email account, not
claws-mail. In claws-mail, When I try dragging the message from the "SPAM" into
my "Inbox," it shows up as moved, but then gets filted by claws-mail to my
"Trash" folder when  I update the inbox. This behavior doesn't happen when I
move the message using squirrel webmail, so I am guessing it is some behavior
of claws-mail. I can't figure it out, though. I tried marking the message as
ham, disabling bogofilter, and modifying preferences, but the behavior
persists. 

Is there a particular setting that causes this behavior?

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From edwardp at linuxmail.org  Wed Jan 16 17:49:28 2013
From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:49:28 -0500
Subject: [Users] AVG renders Claws Mail unusable on Windows
Message-ID: <20130116114928.f695f5d378e45eef3df85576@linuxmail.org>

I tried to configure AVG antivirus to use SSL connections to e-mail and it has now rendered Claws Mail unusuable.  When it now 'launches', it displays connection errors to 127.0.0.1, nothing more and I never seen the Claws Mail main screen now.

I went by their SSL instructions on the AVG web page.  

This should be be fixed.  It was set to a SSL connection to an IMAP server.

Even after a system reboot, Claws continues to do this in what seems an infinite loop.  Going to uninstall Claws, but it may not fix the problem since the accounts would still be in the settings directory, I'm sure.



From freebsd at grem.de  Wed Jan 16 18:36:05 2013
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:36:05 +0100
Subject: [Users] AVG renders Claws Mail unusable on Windows
In-Reply-To: <20130116114928.f695f5d378e45eef3df85576@linuxmail.org>
References: <20130116114928.f695f5d378e45eef3df85576@linuxmail.org>
Message-ID: <20130116183605.4310a8ee@bsd64.grem.de>

On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:49:28 -0500
edwardp at linuxmail.org wrote:

> I tried to configure AVG antivirus to use SSL connections to e-mail
> and it has now rendered Claws Mail unusuable.  When it now
> 'launches', it displays connection errors to 127.0.0.1, nothing more
> and I never seen the Claws Mail main screen now.
> 
> I went by their SSL instructions on the AVG web page.  
> 
> This should be be fixed.  It was set to a SSL connection to an IMAP
> server.
> 
> Even after a system reboot, Claws continues to do this in what seems
> an infinite loop.  Going to uninstall Claws, but it may not fix the
> problem since the accounts would still be in the settings directory,
> I'm sure.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

Open accountrc in a text editor and change "receive_server" to the
correct address (might be multiple entries there if you have multiple
accounts). Look for 127.0.0.1 or localhost as well (using find). That
should fix it.

Alternatively you can open clawsrc and change "work_offline=0" to
"work_offline=1". That way you should be able to start claws and fix
the issue through the UI.

-- 
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 17 19:18:07 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 18:18:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2859] New: Newmail plugin doesn't work if Mail folder
 not present when it is loaded.
Message-ID: <bug-2859-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2859

            Bug ID: 2859
           Summary: Newmail plugin doesn't work if Mail folder not present
                    when it is loaded.
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.9.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/NewMail
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: mjules at free.fr

Hi,

with claws-mail 3.8.1 and 3.9.0 (don't know for previous version); the newmail
plugin doesn't work if no ~/Mail exists.

You can load it but it display an alert with the error message : "No such file
or directory" (without telling which file or directory) and doesn't work after
that.

If I create ~/Mail, it works afterward.

I think it should create appropriate directory or use a place which is
guaranteed to exist (maybe ~/.claws-mail)

regards
Julien

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From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Thu Jan 17 19:36:13 2013
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:36:13 -0500
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2858] New: undesired filtering to trash
 automatically
In-Reply-To: <bug-2858-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2858-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20130117133613.000075ca@unknown>

On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:53:05 +0000
noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:

> Is there a particular setting that causes this behavior?

Spam filtering. This isn't a bug; it's working as designed.

You need to tell CM that the message in question is not spam. You do
this by selecting the message and clicking the Ham button on the
toolbar.

-- 
Rich P.


From exsudat at gmx.de  Wed Jan 16 21:32:37 2013
From: exsudat at gmx.de (exsudat)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:32:37 +0100
Subject: [Users] change order off top-level folders
Message-ID: <mailman.0.1554363985.10209.users@lists.claws-mail.org>

I want to change the order of my top-level folders under an
account/mailbox.

For example:
 mail at mail.op
  + inbox
  + queue
  + drafts
  + trash
  + folder A
  + folder B
  + folder C

should be

 mail at mail.op
  + inbox
  + queue
  + drafts
  + trash
  + folder C
  + folder A
  + folder B

and much better would be

 mail at mail.op
  + inbox
  + folder C
  + folder A
  + folder B
  + queue
  + drafts
  + trash

How can I change that?


From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Fri Jan 18 01:40:10 2013
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:40:10 -0500
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2858] New: undesired filtering to trash
 automatically
In-Reply-To: <20130117150552.586f36d5@hercules.earthlink.net>
References: <bug-2858-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
	<20130117133613.000075ca@unknown>
	<20130117150552.586f36d5@hercules.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20130117194010.0000476d@unknown>

On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:05:52 -0800
Paul Roge <proge at riseup.net> wrote:

> Yes, as stated in my report, I tried that already and it doesn't
> change the behavior. Any other ideas?

A processing rule that moves all mail marked spam by SpamAssassin to
the spam folder would cause the behavior you describe.

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From moh at gmx.org  Fri Jan 18 19:31:39 2013
From: moh at gmx.org (Steffen Klemer)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 19:31:39 +0100
Subject: [Users] change order off top-level folders
Message-ID: <20130118193139.2344c1dd@moppi.kel.wh.local>

Am Wed, 16.01.2013 um 21:32 schrieb exsudat <exsudat at gmx.de> (by way of
exsudat <exsudat at gmx.de>):

> How can I change that?

You might put folder C, A and B as subfolders into INBOX like

 mail at mail.op
  + inbox
    + folder C
    + folder A
    + folder B
  + queue
  + drafts
  + trash

(jut drag'n drop them)

I don't think that there are other possibilities.

/Steffen

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From freebsd at grem.de  Fri Jan 18 19:47:21 2013
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 19:47:21 +0100
Subject: [Users] change order off top-level folders
In-Reply-To: <20130118193139.2344c1dd@moppi.kel.wh.local>
References: <20130118193139.2344c1dd@moppi.kel.wh.local>
Message-ID: <20130118194721.6e83110c@bsd64.grem.de>



On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 19:31:39 +0100
Steffen Klemer <moh at gmx.org> wrote:

> Am Wed, 16.01.2013 um 21:32 schrieb exsudat <exsudat at gmx.de> (by way
> of exsudat <exsudat at gmx.de>):
> 
> > How can I change that?
> 
> You might put folder C, A and B as subfolders into INBOX like
> 
>  mail at mail.op
>   + inbox
>     + folder C
>     + folder A
>     + folder B
>   + queue
>   + drafts
>   + trash
> 
> (jut drag'n drop them)
> 
> I don't think that there are other possibilities.
> 
> /Steffen
> 

If I remember correctly you can manually change folderlist.xml while
claws is not running. The order will stay stable even among
restarts and rescans (no guarantees, but last it seemed to work like
that - at least for IMAP).

-- 
Michael Gmelin


From pf at pfortin.com  Fri Jan 18 20:25:29 2013
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:25:29 -0500
Subject: [Users] Unknown popup text box...
Message-ID: <20130118142529.2e9a4f2f@pfortin.com>

Hi,

I was reviewing some filter Actions when I accidentally hit a key. This
causes a text box to appear into which I can continue to type...

You have to click inside the "Current action list" before the text box
will appear (over the Cancel button) when you start typing.

Any idea what this text box is used for?  Tried capturing a screen shot
(delayed); but the text box disappears when the screen shot triggers.

Thanks,
Pierre


From pf at pfortin.com  Fri Jan 18 20:52:58 2013
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:52:58 -0500
Subject: [Users] Conditional filtering
Message-ID: <20130118145258.16618ccb@pfortin.com>

Hi,

I have some filters which process attachments (archives from FAX
machine), then move the message to an appropriate folder. 

There is no way to further refine the filtering, so I have to manually
review the attachments to determine which sub-folder to post these archive
messages to (project or individual).  

Occasionally, I need to reprocess a message, so I select it and use
"Tools->Filter selected messages".  The problem is that the filter
actions look like this:

  execute "<path>fax_extract -d <type> %F" mark move "<path>/<type>"

which causes the message to get dumped back into the intermediate
auto-filtered folder...  then I have to find it and move it back.

Would it be a feasible enhancement request to have conditional filtering
where certain actions could be flagged as "Execute this action only on
initial receipt" (inbox).

Or maybe a new action: "Stop if not Inbox"...? Or...?

Cheers,
Pierre


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Fri Jan 18 20:58:18 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 19:58:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] Unknown popup text box...
In-Reply-To: <20130118142529.2e9a4f2f@pfortin.com>
References: <20130118142529.2e9a4f2f@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20130118195818.51d3b093@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:25:29 -0500
Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:

Hello Pierre,

>Any idea what this text box is used for?  Tried capturing a screen shot
>(delayed); but the text box disappears when the screen shot triggers.

It's a standard feature of GTK.  It's useful for searching for specific
items in a long list.

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From CAE at eslrahc.com  Fri Jan 18 22:38:56 2013
From: CAE at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:38:56 -0500
Subject: [Users] CVS extra-plugins and automake-1.13
Message-ID: <20130118163856.01b27628@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>


With automake-1.13 the presence of the depreciated AM_CONFIG_HEADER
and/or AM_PROG_CC_STDC are not tolerated and will short circuit the
build.

The attached Plugins-automake-1.13_configure.ac-patches includes patches
for all the extra plugins which I build that eliminates/replaces them.

Additionally attached is maildir_plugin.c.patch
which removes '#include "pluginconfig.h"'

and

vcalender-icallexer.c.patch which fixes the following build failure

callexer.Tpo -c icallexer.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/icallexer.o
icallexer.l:70:17: error: conflicting types for 'ical_yy_scan_bytes'
icallexer.c:322:17: note: previous declaration of 'ical_yy_scan_bytes'
was here
icallexer.c:1755:13: warning: 'yy_fatal_error' defined but not used
[-Wunused-function]
icallexer.c:1291:17: warning: 'yyunput' defined but not used
[-Wunused-function]
icallexer.c:1332:16: warning: 'input' defined but not used
[-Wunused-function]
make[4]: *** [icallexer.lo] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory
`/home/charles/Claws-Mail-CVS/plugins/vcalendar/libical/libical'
make[3]: *** [all] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/home/charles/Claws-Mail-CVS/plugins/vcalendar/libical/libical'



    Charles


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From pf at pfortin.com  Sat Jan 19 00:17:40 2013
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:17:40 -0500
Subject: [Users] Unknown popup text box...
In-Reply-To: <20130118195818.51d3b093@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20130118142529.2e9a4f2f@pfortin.com>
	<20130118195818.51d3b093@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20130118181740.546662fa@pfortin.com>

On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 19:58:18 +0000 Brad Rogers wrote:

>On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:25:29 -0500
>Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:
>
>Hello Pierre,
>
>>Any idea what this text box is used for?  Tried capturing a screen shot
>>(delayed); but the text box disappears when the screen shot triggers.
>
>It's a standard feature of GTK.  It's useful for searching for specific
>items in a long list.
>

Hi Brad!

I wondered if it was a search feature. GTK!...  OK...  but... just tried
clicking in the Rule box which has a long list of rules.  Ah-ha! In this
case, it only works on the Name column.  Is there a way to use it in the
Rule column?  That's where I'm always hunting...  The Name rarely
contains what I'm looking for.  Also, this search only matches the
beginning of the Name, so I haven't found a way to match a name which
contains the search string beyond the start...

A tad helpful feature; but rather limited from what I've tried so far.

Thanks for the clue,
Pierre


From berndth at gmx.de  Sat Jan 19 03:01:21 2013
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 03:01:21 +0100
Subject: [Users] Conditional filtering
In-Reply-To: <20130118145258.16618ccb@pfortin.com>
References: <20130118145258.16618ccb@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20130119030121.51af14c6@wodan>

On Fr, 18.01.2013 14:52, Pierre Fortin wrote:

>Would it be a feasible enhancement request to have conditional filtering
>where certain actions could be flagged as "Execute this action only on
>initial receipt" (inbox).

The perl plugin can distinguish between manual filtering by choosing
the menu item, and filtering on receive.

Holger


From pf at pfortin.com  Sat Jan 19 03:59:46 2013
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 21:59:46 -0500
Subject: [Users] Conditional filtering
In-Reply-To: <20130119030121.51af14c6@wodan>
References: <20130118145258.16618ccb@pfortin.com>
	<20130119030121.51af14c6@wodan>
Message-ID: <20130118215946.51c83fdc@pfortin.com>

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 03:01:21 +0100 Holger Berndt wrote:

>On Fr, 18.01.2013 14:52, Pierre Fortin wrote:
>
>>Would it be a feasible enhancement request to have conditional filtering
>>where certain actions could be flagged as "Execute this action only on
>>initial receipt" (inbox).
>
>The perl plugin can distinguish between manual filtering by choosing
>the menu item, and filtering on receive.

I keep forgetting about the language plugins. Any chance the Python
plugin has this too? 

Thanks Holger,
Pierre


>Holger
>_______________________________________________
>Users mailing list
>Users at lists.claws-mail.org
>http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
>


From kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com  Sat Jan 19 11:14:51 2013
From: kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com (Abhay S. Kushwaha)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:44:51 +0530
Subject: [Users] Conditional filtering
In-Reply-To: <20130118145258.16618ccb@pfortin.com>
References: <20130118145258.16618ccb@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20130119154451.0000175e@netsolutionsindia.com>

On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:52:58 -0500, Pierre wrote:

> I have some filters which process attachments (archives from FAX
> machine), then move the message to an appropriate folder. 
> 
> There is no way to further refine the filtering, so I have to
> manually review the attachments to determine which sub-folder to
> post these archive messages to (project or individual).  
> 
> Occasionally, I need to reprocess a message, so I select it and use
> "Tools->Filter selected messages".  The problem is that the filter
> actions look like this:
> 
>   execute "<path>fax_extract -d <type> %F" mark move "<path>/<type>"
> 
> which causes the message to get dumped back into the intermediate
> auto-filtered folder...  then I have to find it and move it back.
> 
> Would it be a feasible enhancement request to have conditional
> filtering where certain actions could be flagged as "Execute this
> action only on initial receipt" (inbox).
> 
> Or maybe a new action: "Stop if not Inbox"...? Or...?

Why don't you apply a colour label, or score, or tag when you filter
first and then update the rule to run only if that colour label, or
score, or tag (whatever you're using) isn't present. Incoming mail
will never have one of these and that can act as a good way to
identify such messages.



From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sat Jan 19 11:37:43 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 10:37:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] Unknown popup text box...
In-Reply-To: <20130118181740.546662fa@pfortin.com>
References: <20130118142529.2e9a4f2f@pfortin.com>
	<20130118195818.51d3b093@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130118181740.546662fa@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20130119103743.0be3727b@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:17:40 -0500
Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:

Hello Pierre,

>clicking in the Rule box which has a long list of rules.  Ah-ha! In this
>case, it only works on the Name column.  Is there a way to use it in the
>Rule column?  That's where I'm always hunting...  The Name rarely

AFAIAA, it's not possible to select the column it operates on.  I
suspect, but don't know for sure, it would be a source code change and
recompile.  I don't know my way around the CM code anywhere well enough
to know where to start looking.

>contains what I'm looking for.  Also, this search only matches the

I can never remember the rules part, but I do know what I've named
(most) of them.  Searching the name part seems, to me at least, the most
sensible option.

>beginning of the Name, so I haven't found a way to match a name which
>contains the search string beyond the start...

Yes, it only does matching from the beginning.

>A tad helpful feature; but rather limited from what I've tried so far.

True, but the substring matching is a limitation of GTK, not Claws.

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        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
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From exsudat at gmx.de  Sat Jan 19 15:45:27 2013
From: exsudat at gmx.de (exsudat)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:45:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] change order off top-level folders
In-Reply-To: <20130118194721.6e83110c@bsd64.grem.de>
References: <20130118193139.2344c1dd@moppi.kel.wh.local>
	<20130118194721.6e83110c@bsd64.grem.de>
Message-ID: <20130119144651.CE2F0854FB@mx.colino.net>

On 2013-01-18 19:47 Michael Gmelin <freebsd at grem.de> wrote:
> If I remember correctly you can manually change folderlist.xml while
> claws is not running. The order will stay stable even among

Now it doesn't work because the order in folderlist.xml doesn't match
to the displayed order in Claws. There must be another influence on the
displayed folder order.

Where is the Claws-Dev here on the list? He/She should be able to give
a concrete answer.


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sat Jan 19 15:55:19 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:55:19 +0000
Subject: [Users] change order off top-level folders
In-Reply-To: <20130119144651.CE2F0854FB@mx.colino.net>
References: <20130118193139.2344c1dd@moppi.kel.wh.local>
	<20130118194721.6e83110c@bsd64.grem.de>
	<20130119144651.CE2F0854FB@mx.colino.net>
Message-ID: <20130119145519.6efa6327@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:45:27 +0100
exsudat <exsudat at gmx.de> wrote:

Hello exsudat,

>to the displayed order in Claws. There must be another influence on the
>displayed folder order.

It's alphabetical.  Only mailbox order can be changed.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jan 19 17:44:23 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:44:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2860] New: modify the order of the folders
Message-ID: <bug-2860-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2860

            Bug ID: 2860
           Summary: modify the order of the folders
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Folder List
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: exsudat at gmx.de

It should be possible to modify the order of the folders under a mailbox.

For example:
 mail at mail.op
  + inbox
  + queue
  + drafts
  + trash
  + folder A
  + folder B
  + folder C

should be

 mail at mail.op
  + inbox
  + queue
  + drafts
  + trash
  + folder C
  + folder A
  + folder B

and much better would be

 mail at mail.op
  + inbox
  + folder C
  + folder A
  + folder B
  + queue
  + drafts
  + trash

Because it is a mail-client it is a bug not a non-implemented feauter. It is
like having a car that can drive straigt and right, but not left because it is
not implemented.

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.


From exsudat at gmx.de  Sat Jan 19 17:46:13 2013
From: exsudat at gmx.de (exsudat)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:46:13 +0100
Subject: [Users] change order off top-level folders
Message-ID: <20130119164722.BA334854FB@mx.colino.net>

On 2013-01-16 21:32 exsudat <exsudat at gmx.de> (by way of exsudat
<exsudat at gmx.de>) wrote:
> I want to change the order of my top-level folders under an
> account/mailbox.

But is reported
<http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2860>


From exsudat at gmx.de  Sat Jan 19 17:48:59 2013
From: exsudat at gmx.de (exsudat)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:48:59 +0100
Subject: [Users] sent account not corrosponding to current mailbox
Message-ID: <20130119165007.42F57854FB@mx.colino.net>

I have three accounts and three mailbox.

If I am reading mails in mailbox2 and reply or create a new message
there is also the account from mailbox1 used in the from-field.

How can I change this unexpected behaviour.

If I am in maiblox at xxx.org and press "Create message" of course I want
to write with this adress in the from field.
Why does Claws think here the other way?


From freebsd at grem.de  Sat Jan 19 17:59:09 2013
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:59:09 +0100
Subject: [Users] change order off top-level folders
In-Reply-To: <20130119164722.BA334854FB@mx.colino.net>
References: <20130119164722.BA334854FB@mx.colino.net>
Message-ID: <20130119175909.057844f9@bsd64.grem.de>



On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:46:13 +0100
exsudat <exsudat at gmx.de> wrote:

> On 2013-01-16 21:32 exsudat <exsudat at gmx.de> (by way of exsudat
> <exsudat at gmx.de>) wrote:
> > I want to change the order of my top-level folders under an
> > account/mailbox.
> 
> But is reported
> <http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2860>
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

Have you actually tried changing folderlist.xml like I suggested?

Your reasoning why you consider this to be a bug is ridiculous -
not every car comparison makes sense. Just because it seems important
to you ("I want to") doesn't mean it's important to everyone (while
steering to the left is something no motorist can avoid). I for one
never felt the need to change the order of my folders in any email
client ever in 20 years (I did feel the need to change the order of
my accounts before, which most email clients allow, I think for claws
I also had do edit a configuration file - but my memory might fail me
here). Everyone had different needs.

If this was my project I would just close that bug though - calling
feature requests bug reports and being demanding usually doesn't
mesh very well in open source projects.

Just my 2 cents :)

-- 
Michael Gmelin


From freebsd at grem.de  Sat Jan 19 18:07:37 2013
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:07:37 +0100
Subject: [Users] sent account not corrosponding to current mailbox
In-Reply-To: <20130119165007.42F57854FB@mx.colino.net>
References: <20130119165007.42F57854FB@mx.colino.net>
Message-ID: <20130119180737.318d54f7@bsd64.grem.de>



On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:48:59 +0100
exsudat <exsudat at gmx.de> wrote:

> I have three accounts and three mailbox.
> 
> If I am reading mails in mailbox2 and reply or create a new message
> there is also the account from mailbox1 used in the from-field.
> 
> How can I change this unexpected behaviour.
> 
> If I am in maiblox at xxx.org and press "Create message" of course I want
> to write with this adress in the from field.
> Why does Claws think here the other way?
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

Have you checked Preferences -> Compose -> Writing -> (Options on top).
Which layout are you using (standard or one of the optimized layout).
If you're not trying Standard layout, give it a shot to see if it makes
a difference.

I just verified here that for all three accounts I use it behaves like
expected (compose and reply).

Cheers,


-- 
Michael Gmelin


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sat Jan 19 18:07:37 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:07:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] sent account not corrosponding to current mailbox
In-Reply-To: <20130119165007.42F57854FB@mx.colino.net>
References: <20130119165007.42F57854FB@mx.colino.net>
Message-ID: <20130119170737.0182f568@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:48:59 +0100
exsudat <exsudat at gmx.de> wrote:

Hello exsudat,

>If I am in maiblox at xxx.org and press "Create message" of course I want
>to write with this adress in the from field.

Right click on the folder, then select "Properties.../ Compose" and
set the "Default Account" for that folder, and if desired, all
sub-folders.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
I hope I live to relive the days gone by
Old Before I Die - Robbie Williams
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From freebsd at grem.de  Sat Jan 19 18:11:42 2013
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:11:42 +0100
Subject: [Users] sent account not corrosponding to current mailbox
In-Reply-To: <20130119170737.0182f568@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20130119165007.42F57854FB@mx.colino.net>
	<20130119170737.0182f568@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20130119181142.57bf0ec1@bsd64.grem.de>



On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:07:37 +0000
Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:48:59 +0100
> exsudat <exsudat at gmx.de> wrote:
> 
> Hello exsudat,
> 
> >If I am in maiblox at xxx.org and press "Create message" of course I
> >want to write with this adress in the from field.
> 
> Right click on the folder, then select "Properties.../ Compose" and
> set the "Default Account" for that folder, and if desired, all
> sub-folders.
> 

Usually this shouldn't be necessary htough, since the default account
*should* be the one the folder is part of (at least for IMAP, exsudat
didn't specify if he's using POP3 or IMAP)

-- 
Michael Gmelin


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Sat Jan 19 18:44:05 2013
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:44:05 +0100
Subject: [Users] change order off top-level folders
In-Reply-To: <20130119145519.6efa6327@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20130118193139.2344c1dd@moppi.kel.wh.local>
	<20130118194721.6e83110c@bsd64.grem.de>
	<20130119144651.CE2F0854FB@mx.colino.net>
	<20130119145519.6efa6327@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20130119184405.7ba31167@mirrors.kernel.org>


It's clearly a feature request. But it's a useful feature too. 

With my long folder hierarchy, i already have to resort to things like x-bar / y-foo / z-batz to enforce my preferred order. With using xml anyway, i think it's reasonable to question why there have to be any sorting anyway.


From rikona at sonic.net  Sat Jan 19 19:17:21 2013
From: rikona at sonic.net (rikona)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 10:17:21 -0800
Subject: [Users] change order off top-level folders
In-Reply-To: <201301172033.r0HKX2WI032220@d.mx.sonic.net>
References: <201301172033.r0HKX2WI032220@d.mx.sonic.net>
Message-ID: <1789755606.20130119101721@sonic.net>

Hello exsudat,

Wednesday, January 16, 2013, 12:32:37 PM, exsudat wrote:

> I want to change the order of my top-level folders under an
> account/mailbox.

> and much better would be

>  mail at mail.op
>   + inbox
>   + folder C
>   + folder A
>   + folder B
>   + queue
>   + drafts
>   + trash

I normally use a few hundred folders, and ran into the same problem.
The organization gets changed on a regular basis so editing the config
file was not a good way to keep things the way I like. I now use Claws
for only a few relatively static folders, and a different email client
for my main email with hundreds of folders. The easiest way for me in
Claws was to put a number in front, with the order I wanted, as:

  1+ inbox
  2+ folder C
  3+ folder A
  4+ folder B
  5+ queue
  6+ drafts
  7+ trash

A bit odd looking, but works...

-- 

 rikona        



From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sat Jan 19 19:38:10 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:38:10 +0000
Subject: [Users] change order off top-level folders
In-Reply-To: <20130119184405.7ba31167@mirrors.kernel.org>
References: <20130118193139.2344c1dd@moppi.kel.wh.local>
	<20130118194721.6e83110c@bsd64.grem.de>
	<20130119144651.CE2F0854FB@mx.colino.net>
	<20130119145519.6efa6327@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130119184405.7ba31167@mirrors.kernel.org>
Message-ID: <20130119183810.4cd46293@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:44:05 +0100
Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote:

Hello Michael,

>It's clearly a feature request. But it's a useful feature too. 

What is?

You've lost me...

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
Life's short, don't make a mess of it
No Time To Be 21 - The Adverts
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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sat Jan 19 19:36:47 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:36:47 +0000
Subject: [Users] sent account not corrosponding to current mailbox
In-Reply-To: <20130119181142.57bf0ec1@bsd64.grem.de>
References: <20130119165007.42F57854FB@mx.colino.net>
	<20130119170737.0182f568@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130119181142.57bf0ec1@bsd64.grem.de>
Message-ID: <20130119183647.3ab6ff35@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:11:42 +0100
Michael Gmelin <freebsd at grem.de> wrote:

Hello Michael,

>Usually this shouldn't be necessary htough, since the default account
>*should* be the one the folder is part of (at least for IMAP, exsudat

When replying, CM will use the address (account) that the message was
sent to.  On POP3 accounts it will use the currently selected account
when composing a _new_ message.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
Drums quite good, bass is too loud, and I can't hear the words
Sound Of The Suburbs - Members
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From freebsd at grem.de  Sat Jan 19 19:51:25 2013
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:51:25 +0100
Subject: [Users] change order off top-level folders
In-Reply-To: <20130119183810.4cd46293@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20130118193139.2344c1dd@moppi.kel.wh.local>
	<20130118194721.6e83110c@bsd64.grem.de>
	<20130119144651.CE2F0854FB@mx.colino.net>
	<20130119145519.6efa6327@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130119184405.7ba31167@mirrors.kernel.org>
	<20130119183810.4cd46293@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <52D9187D-CD42-4662-BBB0-AD8490B3130B@grem.de>



On 19 Jan 2013, at 19:38, Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:44:05 +0100
> Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote:
> 
> Hello Michael,
> 
>> It's clearly a feature request. But it's a useful feature too.
> 
> What is?

He's been talking about the possibility to order folders manually. (Two different Michaels posting in this thread).

I could see this being useful, still not a bug ;)


> 
> You've lost me...
> 
> -- 
> Regards  _
>         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
>        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
> Life's short, don't make a mess of it
> No Time To Be 21 - The Adverts
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users


From freebsd at grem.de  Sat Jan 19 19:53:07 2013
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:53:07 +0100
Subject: [Users] sent account not corrosponding to current mailbox
In-Reply-To: <20130119183647.3ab6ff35@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20130119165007.42F57854FB@mx.colino.net>
	<20130119170737.0182f568@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130119181142.57bf0ec1@bsd64.grem.de>
	<20130119183647.3ab6ff35@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <271487B9-9E62-4E3B-8C00-7DCA11E1DC9F@grem.de>



On 19 Jan 2013, at 19:36, Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:11:42 +0100
> Michael Gmelin <freebsd at grem.de> wrote:
> 
> Hello Michael,
> 
>> Usually this shouldn't be necessary htough, since the default account
>> *should* be the one the folder is part of (at least for IMAP, exsudat
> 
> When replying, CM will use the address (account) that the message was
> sent to.  On POP3 accounts it will use the currently selected account
> when composing a _new_ message.
> 

Ok, that's consistent with IMAP and seems to be the expected behavior of the original requestor. Confused.

> -- 
> Regards  _
>         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
>        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
> Drums quite good, bass is too loud, and I can't hear the words
> Sound Of The Suburbs - Members
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users


From berndth at gmx.de  Sat Jan 19 20:19:14 2013
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:19:14 +0100
Subject: [Users] Conditional filtering
In-Reply-To: <20130118215946.51c83fdc@pfortin.com>
References: <20130118145258.16618ccb@pfortin.com>
	<20130119030121.51af14c6@wodan>
	<20130118215946.51c83fdc@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20130119201914.04667b79@wodan>

On Fr, 18.01.2013 21:59, Pierre Fortin wrote:

>On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 03:01:21 +0100 Holger Berndt wrote:

>>>Would it be a feasible enhancement request to have conditional filtering
>>>where certain actions could be flagged as "Execute this action only on
>>>initial receipt" (inbox).
>>
>>The perl plugin can distinguish between manual filtering by choosing
>>the menu item, and filtering on receive.
>
>I keep forgetting about the language plugins. Any chance the Python
>plugin has this too? 

No, that one doesn't do filtering.

Holger


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sat Jan 19 20:24:16 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:24:16 +0000
Subject: [Users] sent account not corrosponding to current mailbox
In-Reply-To: <271487B9-9E62-4E3B-8C00-7DCA11E1DC9F@grem.de>
References: <20130119165007.42F57854FB@mx.colino.net>
	<20130119170737.0182f568@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130119181142.57bf0ec1@bsd64.grem.de>
	<20130119183647.3ab6ff35@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<271487B9-9E62-4E3B-8C00-7DCA11E1DC9F@grem.de>
Message-ID: <20130119192416.63e4ae9c@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:53:07 +0100
Michael Gmelin <freebsd at grem.de> wrote:

Hello Michael,

>On 19 Jan 2013, at 19:36, Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:
>> When replying, CM will use the address (account) that the message was
>> sent to.  On POP3 accounts it will use the currently selected account
>> when composing a _new_ message.
>Ok, that's consistent with IMAP and seems to be the expected behavior
>of the original requestor. Confused.

I might have been a little inexplicit in my previous post.  Where I said
"...currently selected account..." I meant the account that's shown as
selected in the status bar of CM at the bottom right.  This may not be
the same account as the one currently being viewed.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
Bet you thought you had it all worked out
Problem - Sex Pistols
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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sat Jan 19 20:31:39 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:31:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] change order off top-level folders
In-Reply-To: <52D9187D-CD42-4662-BBB0-AD8490B3130B@grem.de>
References: <20130118193139.2344c1dd@moppi.kel.wh.local>
	<20130118194721.6e83110c@bsd64.grem.de>
	<20130119144651.CE2F0854FB@mx.colino.net>
	<20130119145519.6efa6327@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
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	<20130119183810.4cd46293@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<52D9187D-CD42-4662-BBB0-AD8490B3130B@grem.de>
Message-ID: <20130119193139.2f22053e@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:51:25 +0100
Michael Gmelin <freebsd at grem.de> wrote:

Hello Michael,

>He's been talking about the possibility to order folders manually. (Two
>different Michaels posting in this thread).

Yes, but my point was there were no references.  Having looked through
various posts, it appears (to me at least) that he was replying to
a message in the other thread, and not the one he actually replied to,
since it makes no sense in that context.

> I could see this being useful, still not a bug ;)

I agree it's not a bug.  I also agree, but less strongly, about the
usefulness.  I can see a case being made for the option, but it's not
one I'd use.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
Drums quite good, bass is too loud, and I can't hear the words
Sound Of The Suburbs - Members
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From linux at slavino.sk  Sat Jan 19 20:45:41 2013
From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:45:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] sent account not corrosponding to current mailbox
In-Reply-To: <20130119183647.3ab6ff35@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20130119165007.42F57854FB@mx.colino.net>
	<20130119170737.0182f568@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130119181142.57bf0ec1@bsd64.grem.de>
	<20130119183647.3ab6ff35@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20130119204541.5ca30d96@bonifac.skk>

Ahoj,

Dňa Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:36:47 +0000 Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk>
napísal:

> On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:11:42 +0100
> Michael Gmelin <freebsd at grem.de> wrote:
> 
> Hello Michael,
> 
> >Usually this shouldn't be necessary htough, since the default account
> >*should* be the one the folder is part of (at least for IMAP, exsudat
> 
> When replying, CM will use the address (account) that the message was
> sent to.  On POP3 accounts it will use the currently selected account
> when composing a _new_ message.

There is small problem with maillists, for example, because i am not
recipient of the message:

To: Claws ML <users at lists.claws-mail.org>
X-Original-To: my at email

Replying to this message will select the default account. I need to set
the folder's preferences. But there is another problem, when more ML
with different email addresses are filtered into one folder :-(

regards

-- 
Slavko
http://slavino.sk
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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sat Jan 19 20:57:33 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:57:33 +0000
Subject: [Users] sent account not corrosponding to current mailbox
In-Reply-To: <20130119204541.5ca30d96@bonifac.skk>
References: <20130119165007.42F57854FB@mx.colino.net>
	<20130119170737.0182f568@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130119181142.57bf0ec1@bsd64.grem.de>
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On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:45:41 +0100
Slavko <linux at slavino.sk> wrote:

Hello Slavko,

>Replying to this message will select the default account. I need to set
>the folder's preferences. But there is another problem, when more ML
>with different email addresses are filtered into one folder :-(

There can be many problems putting list messages from two or more lists
in the same folder.  It's a very bad idea, IMO, since it negates the
whole purpose of filtering the mail in the first place.

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        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
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From freebsd at grem.de  Sat Jan 19 21:18:32 2013
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 21:18:32 +0100
Subject: [Users] sent account not corrosponding to current mailbox
In-Reply-To: <20130119192416.63e4ae9c@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20130119165007.42F57854FB@mx.colino.net>
	<20130119170737.0182f568@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
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On 19 Jan 2013, at 20:24, Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:53:07 +0100
> Michael Gmelin <freebsd at grem.de> wrote:
> 
> Hello Michael,
> 
>> On 19 Jan 2013, at 19:36, Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:
>>> When replying, CM will use the address (account) that the message was
>>> sent to.  On POP3 accounts it will use the currently selected account
>>> when composing a _new_ message.
>> Ok, that's consistent with IMAP and seems to be the expected behavior
>> of the original requestor. Confused.
> 
> I might have been a little inexplicit in my previous post.  Where I said
> "...currently selected account..." I meant the account that's shown as
> selected in the status bar of CM at the bottom right.  This may not be
> the same account as the one currently being viewed.

Well, then it's not consistent with my setup. I have 3 IMAP accounts and new mails are always composed using the account I'm viewing right now, regardless of the active account shown in the lower right corner (using default layout view). If it wasn't I would find that counter intuitive. So maybe some setting is different here or it's an iMap vs pop3 thing 


> 
> -- 
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>         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
>        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
> Bet you thought you had it all worked out
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From linux at slavino.sk  Sat Jan 19 21:50:19 2013
From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 21:50:19 +0100
Subject: [Users] sent account not corrosponding to current mailbox
In-Reply-To: <20130119195733.7893dae7@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20130119165007.42F57854FB@mx.colino.net>
	<20130119170737.0182f568@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130119181142.57bf0ec1@bsd64.grem.de>
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Hi,

Dňa Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:57:33 +0000 Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk>
napísal:

> lists in the same folder.  It's a very bad idea, IMO, since it
> negates the whole purpose of filtering the mail in the first place. 

I am sorry, i don't agree with filtering purpose - for me is only one
purpose - to simplify mi life (in mean reading a lot of mails) :-)

Why bad idea putting more ML into one folder? For example, to have two
separate folders for CM ML and CM Translation ML is wasting space in
folder's tree for me, because they are nearly related. And i have more
translation ML, where i need to read project's and team ML together,
but mostly there is minimal traffic in both.

Filtering was not purpose to put all things to own, separate, place, but
allow people to filter messages by they needs. I am using a lot of
rules, which puts things in separate folders and a lot of rules to put
similar things into common folders. I cannot generalize when i use one
or second, because it is case depended.

I am using more email address too, mostly aliases. Some i am using by
historical reason, some by security - as example can be recently
hacked Debian's wiki, where is email used as login and attacker gets
the email addresses and password's hashes. I simply deleted the alias,
created new one with new wiki account, etc - and the attacker have
unusable information (in my case) :-)

And some other emails i am using simply because i can.

regards

-- 
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http://slavino.sk
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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sat Jan 19 21:36:34 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:36:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] sent account not corrosponding to current mailbox
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On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 21:18:32 +0100
Michael Gmelin <freebsd at grem.de> wrote:

Hello Michael,

>would find that counter intuitive. So maybe some setting is different
>here or it's an iMap vs pop3 thing 

I don't use IMAP, so have not had any experience with the way it behaves
regarding email address choice, but I think it's probably an IMAP vs POP
thing, rather than a setting as CM has setting s for auto account
selection for Reply, Forward and Re-edit, but not Compose.  At least,
AFAICT.

-- 
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         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jan 19 23:52:02 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 22:52:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2242] Claws Opens Windows on Wrong Screen
In-Reply-To: <bug-2242-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2242-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2242-595-LsTXshddSp@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2242

daeramir at hotmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #2 from daeramir at hotmail.com ---
I haven't this problem with Claws-Mail, but I do with other softwares on
Windows 7 64b. I think that is a Windows 7 bug.

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From johnxj at comcast.net  Sun Jan 20 02:29:54 2013
From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:29:54 -0800
Subject: [Users] Where is the address book?
Message-ID: <20130119172954.04ebdf7b@mailhost.pdx.edu>

I have been using Claws Mail for years on my main computer (laptop,
Fedora 16), but I recently installed it on my new desktop computer as
well (Xubuntu 12.04). I copied the .claws-mail folder from the laptop
to the desktop and voilà! All my folders, accounts and settings were
immediately available. However, the address book must not be in
the .claws-mail folder, because none of my addresses appear on the
desktop computer. 

Where is the address book?


From freebsd at grem.de  Sun Jan 20 02:34:12 2013
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 02:34:12 +0100
Subject: [Users] Where is the address book?
In-Reply-To: <20130119172954.04ebdf7b@mailhost.pdx.edu>
References: <20130119172954.04ebdf7b@mailhost.pdx.edu>
Message-ID: <20130120023412.3e9fa147@bsd64.grem.de>



On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:29:54 -0800
John Jason Jordan <johnxj at comcast.net> wrote:

> I have been using Claws Mail for years on my main computer (laptop,
> Fedora 16), but I recently installed it on my new desktop computer as
> well (Xubuntu 12.04). I copied the .claws-mail folder from the laptop
> to the desktop and voilà! All my folders, accounts and settings were
> immediately available. However, the address book must not be in
> the .claws-mail folder, because none of my addresses appear on the
> desktop computer. 
> 
> Where is the address book?
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

My address book lives in ~/.clawsrc/addrbook/addrbook-*.xml


-- 
Michael Gmelin


From johnxj at comcast.net  Sun Jan 20 02:50:49 2013
From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:50:49 -0800
Subject: [Users] Where is the address book?
In-Reply-To: <20130120023412.3e9fa147@bsd64.grem.de>
References: <20130119172954.04ebdf7b@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20130120023412.3e9fa147@bsd64.grem.de>
Message-ID: <20130119175049.4771bdc5@mailhost.pdx.edu>

On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 02:34:12 +0100
Michael Gmelin <freebsd at grem.de> dijo:

>On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:29:54 -0800
>John Jason Jordan <johnxj at comcast.net> wrote:

>> Where is the address book?

>My address book lives in ~/.clawsrc/addrbook/addrbook-*.xml

Got it. Thanks!


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 20 12:13:23 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:13:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2861] New: redesign the filter dialogs
Message-ID: <bug-2861-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2861

            Bug ID: 2861
           Summary: redesign the filter dialogs
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.1
          Hardware: All
                OS: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: exsudat at gmx.de

The filtering in Claws is quite powerfull.
But the interface between Claws and the user is bad.

Because of complexity there is a high rate of missunderstandings and possible
errors in the filters.

There are to much clicks needed to create or modify a filter. This can be
easiely reduced without loseing the powerfullness of the filtering.

The question is if there are resources and will to modify or redesign this
component?

I could offer some design ideas. A complete redesign is to much for the first
time - maybe. I would prefere to modify the filtering dialogs from bottom to
top. Modify little things - step by step.

Should I open new feauter-requests for each "little thing" and link it to this
Report?

What do you think?

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From exsudat at gmx.de  Sun Jan 20 12:19:52 2013
From: exsudat at gmx.de (exsudat)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 12:19:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] ReDesign of the filtering dialogs
Message-ID: <20130120112103.1ED3F854FB@mx.colino.net>

I have some ideas about redesign the filtering dialogs. This is because
they are quite complex and unergonomic. This causes errors, to much
clicks to create/modify a filter. And it is hard to become and overview
over all filters.

I opened a general report about this topic
<http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2861>

I am new with Claws and in this community. So I am just introducing
myself.
I was a software developer and engineere in the past. But I am not
quite talented. :D So I quite this job. But I just tell you this to
show that I have a quite deep view in the materia and know how things
work and how much work it could be to implement something.

My offer is to develop concrete ideas and designs about the filtering
dialogs.


From abrolag at users.sourceforge.net  Sun Jan 20 13:11:13 2013
From: abrolag at users.sourceforge.net (Abrolag)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 12:11:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] ReDesign of the filtering dialogs
In-Reply-To: <20130120112103.1ED3F854FB@mx.colino.net>
References: <20130120112103.1ED3F854FB@mx.colino.net>
Message-ID: <20130120121113.4d65886b@debian>

On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 12:19:52 +0100
exsudat <exsudat at gmx.de> wrote:

> I have some ideas about redesign the filtering dialogs. This is because
> they are quite complex and unergonomic. This causes errors, to much
> clicks to create/modify a filter. And it is hard to become and overview
> over all filters.
> 
> I opened a general report about this topic
> <http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2861>
> 
> I am new with Claws and in this community. So I am just introducing
> myself.
> I was a software developer and engineere in the past. But I am not
> quite talented. :D So I quite this job. But I just tell you this to
> show that I have a quite deep view in the materia and know how things
> work and how much work it could be to implement something.
> 
> My offer is to develop concrete ideas and designs about the filtering
> dialogs.

What I (at first) found confusing about the dialogues was that you perform the
add/replace action *after* you make the entries.

It is more normal to click an 'add' button, make the entries, then click an OK
button.

-- 
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 20 14:02:47 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:02:47 +0000
Subject: [Users] Where is the address book?
In-Reply-To: <20130120023412.3e9fa147@bsd64.grem.de>
References: <20130119172954.04ebdf7b@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20130120023412.3e9fa147@bsd64.grem.de>
Message-ID: <20130120130247.63641745@thewildbeast>

On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 02:34:12 +0100
Michael Gmelin <freebsd at grem.de> wrote: 

> My address book lives in ~/.clawsrc/addrbook/addrbook-*.xml

That's a non-standard location. The default location
is ~/.claws-mail/addrbook/

Information on the location of files/directories can be found in the
man page, `man claws-mail`.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 20 14:05:25 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:05:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] sent account not corrosponding to current mailbox
In-Reply-To: <20130119203634.4759673e@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20130119165007.42F57854FB@mx.colino.net>
	<20130119170737.0182f568@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
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Message-ID: <20130120130525.44317072@thewildbeast>

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:36:34 +0000
Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote: 

> but I think it's probably an IMAP vs POP thing,

No, it's an IMAP mailbox Vs MH mailbox thing.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 20 14:07:19 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:07:19 +0000
Subject: [Users] sent account not corrosponding to current mailbox
In-Reply-To: <20130119204541.5ca30d96@bonifac.skk>
References: <20130119165007.42F57854FB@mx.colino.net>
	<20130119170737.0182f568@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130119181142.57bf0ec1@bsd64.grem.de>
	<20130119183647.3ab6ff35@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130119204541.5ca30d96@bonifac.skk>
Message-ID: <20130120130719.3ffb4b92@thewildbeast>

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:45:41 +0100
Slavko <linux at slavino.sk> wrote: 

> Replying to this message will select the default account. I need to
> set the folder's preferences. But there is another problem, when
> more ML with different email addresses are filtered into one
> folder :-(

The filtering and folders are there with various possible uses, but
it's up to you how you decide to use them.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From freebsd at grem.de  Sun Jan 20 14:18:57 2013
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:18:57 +0100
Subject: [Users] Where is the address book?
In-Reply-To: <20130120130247.63641745@thewildbeast>
References: <20130119172954.04ebdf7b@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20130120023412.3e9fa147@bsd64.grem.de>
	<20130120130247.63641745@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20130120141857.6a7c134b@bsd64.grem.de>



On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:02:47 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 02:34:12 +0100
> Michael Gmelin <freebsd at grem.de> wrote: 
> 
> > My address book lives in ~/.clawsrc/addrbook/addrbook-*.xml
> 
> That's a non-standard location. The default location
> is ~/.claws-mail/addrbook/
> 

.clawsrc was a typo... Anyway, it still helped him to find it, so it's
all good.

> Information on the location of files/directories can be found in the
> man page, `man claws-mail`.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> 
> 



-- 
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From freebsd at grem.de  Sun Jan 20 14:34:52 2013
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:34:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] sent account not corrosponding to current mailbox
In-Reply-To: <20130120130525.44317072@thewildbeast>
References: <20130119165007.42F57854FB@mx.colino.net>
	<20130119170737.0182f568@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130119181142.57bf0ec1@bsd64.grem.de>
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Message-ID: <20130120143452.0cb80429@bsd64.grem.de>



On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:05:25 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:36:34 +0000
> Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote: 
> 
> > but I think it's probably an IMAP vs POP thing,
> 
> No, it's an IMAP mailbox Vs MH mailbox thing.

Well, using IMAP results in an IMAP mailbox while using POP3 results in
an MH mailbox for mail storage (yes, there are other ways of ending up
using MH, but the majority of users gets them by using POP3). So
unless your name is Sheldon it's not really "No", but more like "To
be precise".

All of this doesn't help the original requester to get his problem
solved though. So unless somebody is willing to hack claws to allow for
this feature his, only realistic option would be changing his
accounts to use IMAP (either server side or my running a local copy of
dovecot) or to use a different email client.

> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> 
> 



-- 
Michael Gmelin


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sun Jan 20 14:14:19 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:14:19 +0000
Subject: [Users] sent account not corrosponding to current mailbox
In-Reply-To: <20130120130525.44317072@thewildbeast>
References: <20130119165007.42F57854FB@mx.colino.net>
	<20130119170737.0182f568@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130119181142.57bf0ec1@bsd64.grem.de>
	<20130119183647.3ab6ff35@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<271487B9-9E62-4E3B-8C00-7DCA11E1DC9F@grem.de>
	<20130119192416.63e4ae9c@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<6DA76B74-D24B-4026-9CB5-15B9FAE2D7EF@grem.de>
	<20130119203634.4759673e@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130120130525.44317072@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20130120131419.4a443a6c@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:05:25 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

Hello Paul,

>Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote: 
>> but I think it's probably an IMAP vs POP thing,  
>No, it's an IMAP mailbox Vs MH mailbox thing.

Thanks for the clarification, Paul.

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         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
The public gets what the public wants
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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sun Jan 20 12:05:35 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:05:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] sent account not corrosponding to current mailbox
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References: <20130119165007.42F57854FB@mx.colino.net>
	<20130119170737.0182f568@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130119181142.57bf0ec1@bsd64.grem.de>
	<20130119183647.3ab6ff35@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130119204541.5ca30d96@bonifac.skk>
	<20130119195733.7893dae7@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130119215019.5181d1d4@bonifac.skk>
Message-ID: <20130120110535.39f12e79@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 21:50:19 +0100
Slavko <linux at slavino.sk> wrote:

Hello Slavko,

>Why bad idea putting more ML into one folder? For example, to have two

Because it increases the chance of something being sent to the wrong
place.  With two lists, it's 50:50 chance, with three 67% chance of
sending a message to the wrong list, and so forth.  Of course, if only
one list accepts incoming mail, the others being announce only lists for
example, then the foregoing becomes moot.

Of course, you are well within your rights to work as you choose.

-- 
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        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
Well I don't want you to think I'm being obscene
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 20 14:41:41 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:41:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] sent account not corrosponding to current mailbox
In-Reply-To: <20130120143452.0cb80429@bsd64.grem.de>
References: <20130119165007.42F57854FB@mx.colino.net>
	<20130119170737.0182f568@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:34:52 +0100
Michael Gmelin <freebsd at grem.de> wrote: 

> All of this doesn't help the original requester to get his problem
> solved though. So unless somebody is willing to hack claws to allow
> for this feature his, only realistic option would be changing his
> accounts to use IMAP (either server side or my running a local copy
> of dovecot) or to use a different email client.

No, using IMAP is not his only realistic option at all! I've been
using several POP accounts for years and they all share a single MH
mailbox.

Turning on all 'automatic account selection' options solves most of
this. In the case of mailing lists, where the recipient is the
mailing list address, using filtering and folder properties is fine.
At least, I've had no problems with this ever.

with regards

Paul


-- 
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but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From freebsd at grem.de  Sun Jan 20 14:49:10 2013
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:49:10 +0100
Subject: [Users] sent account not corrosponding to current mailbox
In-Reply-To: <20130120134141.4d0f9cbc@thewildbeast>
References: <20130119165007.42F57854FB@mx.colino.net>
	<20130119170737.0182f568@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:41:41 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> No, using IMAP is not his only realistic option at all! I've been
> using several POP accounts for years and they all share a single MH
> mailbox.
> 
> Turning on all 'automatic account selection' options solves most of
> this. In the case of mailing lists, where the recipient is the
> mailing list address, using filtering and folder properties is fine.
> At least, I've had no problems with this ever.

This doesn't really solve his "compose mail" problem, does it? Would
setting "Default Account" in right click folder -> Properties ->
Compose, like Brad suggested, solve this for him?

As far as I understand he's using three POP accounts that deliver to
three different mailboxes locally, so he could set the default account
property on each of those folders to the corresponding POP account.

-- 
Michael Gmelin


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 20 14:53:20 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:53:20 +0000
Subject: [Users] sent account not corrosponding to current mailbox
In-Reply-To: <20130120144910.77724db3@bsd64.grem.de>
References: <20130119165007.42F57854FB@mx.colino.net>
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:49:10 +0100
Michael Gmelin <freebsd at grem.de> wrote: 

> This doesn't really solve his "compose mail" problem, does it? Would
> setting "Default Account" in right click folder -> Properties ->
> Compose, like Brad suggested, solve this for him?

Yes, it does, or at least it should - it's been 'solving' it for me
for years, as I said.

> As far as I understand he's using three POP accounts that deliver to
> three different mailboxes locally, so he could set the default
> account property on each of those folders to the corresponding POP
> account.

If the user wants to use a different MH mailbox for each POP account
he can, and the automatic account selection options should be all
that's needed. He could also set a default account for each folder in
the mailbox too, of course.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Jan 20 15:34:40 2013
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:34:40 +0100
Subject: [Users] ReDesign of the filtering dialogs
In-Reply-To: <20130120112103.1ED3F854FB@mx.colino.net>
References: <20130120112103.1ED3F854FB@mx.colino.net>
Message-ID: <20130120153440.6eecf525@penny>

On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 12:19:52 +0100
exsudat <exsudat at gmx.de> wrote:

> I have some ideas about redesign the filtering dialogs. This is because
> they are quite complex and unergonomic. This causes errors, to much
> clicks to create/modify a filter. And it is hard to become and overview
> over all filters.
> 
> I opened a general report about this topic
> <http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2861>

Hello,

if you have some good ideas about how to make the filtering configuration
simpler, it can't hurt to see them. If they are liked (by the dev team), they
will eventually be implemented.

Note that the GUI (and the GUI code) is currently shared between both
filtering and processing configuration, so your idea should work for both sets
of rules.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian dot sk>


From freebsd at grem.de  Sun Jan 20 15:44:27 2013
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:44:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] ReDesign of the filtering dialogs
In-Reply-To: <20130120153440.6eecf525@penny>
References: <20130120112103.1ED3F854FB@mx.colino.net>
	<20130120153440.6eecf525@penny>
Message-ID: <20130120154427.7203fc41@bsd64.grem.de>



On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:34:40 +0100
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 12:19:52 +0100
> exsudat <exsudat at gmx.de> wrote:
> 
> > I have some ideas about redesign the filtering dialogs. This is
> > because they are quite complex and unergonomic. This causes errors,
> > to much clicks to create/modify a filter. And it is hard to become
> > and overview over all filters.
> > 
> > I opened a general report about this topic
> > <http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2861>
> 
> Hello,
> 
> if you have some good ideas about how to make the filtering
> configuration simpler, it can't hurt to see them. If they are liked
> (by the dev team), they will eventually be implemented.
> 
> Note that the GUI (and the GUI code) is currently shared between both
> filtering and processing configuration, so your idea should work for
> both sets of rules.
> 
> Regards,

I agree with exsudat that these dialogues could use some work. I don't
use them a lot, but every time I do I mess something up on the first
attempt.

-- 
Michael Gmelin


From edwardp at linuxmail.org  Sun Jan 20 17:05:27 2013
From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:05:27 -0500
Subject: [Users] AVG renders Claws Mail unusable on Windows
In-Reply-To: <20130116114928.f695f5d378e45eef3df85576@linuxmail.org>
References: <20130116114928.f695f5d378e45eef3df85576@linuxmail.org>
Message-ID: <20130120110527.00005bfa@unknown>

On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:49:28 -0500
edwardp at linuxmail.org wrote:

> I tried to configure AVG antivirus to use SSL connections to e-mail
> and it has now rendered Claws Mail unusuable.  When it now
> 'launches', it displays connection errors to 127.0.0.1, nothing more
> and I never seen the Claws Mail main screen now.
> 
> I went by their SSL instructions on the AVG web page.  
> 
> This should be be fixed.  It was set to a SSL connection to an IMAP
> server.
> 
> Even after a system reboot, Claws continues to do this in what seems
> an infinite loop.  Going to uninstall Claws, but it may not fix the
> problem since the accounts would still be in the settings directory,
> I'm sure.

Once I reinstalled Claws Mail, without AVG installed, it tried to
connect to the localhost on those ports, rather than the actual mail
server and it went through the same errors rather quickly.  

Once it went through all of them, the main Claws Mail screen appeared
and I was able to then change the server and port settings back to
what they should be.  I also replaced AVG with Avast, which doesn't
require any special program settings in the e-mail program being
used for SSL connections.  The server hostnames are added to Avast
itself and it handles the SSL connections.  

Problem solved.  Thank you for the reply, Michael.


From pf at pfortin.com  Sun Jan 20 19:45:22 2013
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:45:22 -0500
Subject: [Users] Conditional filtering
In-Reply-To: <20130119154451.0000175e@netsolutionsindia.com>
References: <20130118145258.16618ccb@pfortin.com>
	<20130119154451.0000175e@netsolutionsindia.com>
Message-ID: <20130120134522.0180605b@pfortin.com>

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:44:51 +0530 Abhay S. Kushwaha wrote:

>> Would it be a feasible enhancement request to have conditional
>> filtering where certain actions could be flagged as "Execute this
>> action only on initial receipt" (inbox).
>> 
>> Or maybe a new action: "Stop if not Inbox"...? Or...?  
>
>Why don't you apply a colour label, or score, or tag when you filter
>first and then update the rule to run only if that colour label, or
>score, or tag (whatever you're using) isn't present. Incoming mail
>will never have one of these and that can act as a good way to
>identify such messages.

Thanks for that clue Abhay!  

Turns out it was even easier for my case...

Just add "unread & " in front of all those conditions...  :)

Pierre


From exsudat at gmx.de  Sun Jan 20 20:06:43 2013
From: exsudat at gmx.de (exsudat)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:06:43 +0100
Subject: [Users] [tb2claws]  @addr missing the @ in argument 1
Message-ID: <20130120190753.3923E854FB@mx.colino.net>

I am trying to convert my TheBat adressbook to claws.

I am using ClawsMail 3.8.1 from the Kubuntu 12.10 repository.
The adressbook is from TheBat 5.0.36 on Win7.
Of course I set all exportable fields to "yes".

Can you interpret the error message?

[msg]
user at kubuntu-monster:~/Downloads/claws-mail-tb2claws-mail$ ./tb2claws-mail
--tbfile=/home/user/Downloads/claws-mail-tb2claws-mail/adb.csv Array
@addr missing the @ in argument 1 of push() at ./tb2claws-mail line 56.
Can't open addrbook--index.xml at ./tb2claws-mail line 259.
[/msg]


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 20 20:26:00 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:26:00 +0000
Subject: [Users] [tb2claws]  @addr missing the @ in argument 1
In-Reply-To: <20130120190753.3923E854FB@mx.colino.net>
References: <20130120190753.3923E854FB@mx.colino.net>
Message-ID: <20130120192600.6b34b998@thewildbeast>

On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:06:43 +0100
exsudat <exsudat at gmx.de> wrote: 

> [msg]
> user at kubuntu-monster:~/Downloads/claws-mail-tb2claws-mail$ ./tb2claws-mail
> --tbfile=/home/user/Downloads/claws-mail-tb2claws-mail/adb.csv Array
> @addr missing the @ in argument 1 of push() at ./tb2claws-mail line
> 56. Can't open addrbook--index.xml at ./tb2claws-mail line 259.
> [/msg]

There are 2 different errors here. Easiest thing, I thought, is to
attached a fixed script for you. If you can test it and verify it
works, I'll replace it in Claws sources.


with regards

Paul


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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 21 10:28:43 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 09:28:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] sent account not corrosponding to current mailbox
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:34:52 +0100
Michael Gmelin <freebsd at grem.de> wrote: 

> Well, using IMAP results in an IMAP mailbox while using POP3
> results in an MH mailbox for mail storage (yes, there are other
> ways of ending up using MH, but the majority of users gets them by
> using POP3). So unless your name is Sheldon it's not really "No",
> but more like "To be precise".

Just for clarification: No, it's not simply a matter of "to be more
precise".

In the case of IMAP accounts, each IMAP account has its own mailbox,
and when you create a new IMAP account you get a new IMAP mailbox at
the same time, in the same operation.

However, this is not the case for POP accounts. A new MH mailbox is
not created automatically when you create a new POP account. Several
POP accounts can share a single MH mailbox. This mailbox can also be
shared with Local accounts.

so, an IMAP mailbox is associated with an account, but an MH mailbox
has no such distinct association.

with regards

Paul


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but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 21 16:14:53 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 15:14:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2862] New: Segmentation fault when replying to a
 message where the "code conversion" fails
Message-ID: <bug-2862-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2862

            Bug ID: 2862
           Summary: Segmentation fault when replying to a message where
                    the "code conversion" fails
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.9.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: FreeBSD
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: fk at fabiankeil.de

Created attachment 1218
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1218&action=edit
Fix a segmentation fault in procmime_scan_text_content() in  case of conversion
failures

On my system (FreeBSD 10-Current amd64) trying to reply to:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2013-January/039176.html
reliably causes claws-mail 3.9.0 to segfault in procmime_scan_text_content().

claws-mail-3.9.0cvs55 should still be affected, but I only checked the code.

The attached patch prevents the NULL pointer dereferencing and
causes claws-mail to quote an empty message instead.

>From a usability point of view it might be preferable to quote the
unconverted text (risking incorrectly displayed characters), but from
the code it's not clear to me if this is the intended behavior.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 21 16:19:46 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 15:19:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2862] Segmentation fault when replying to a message
 where the "code conversion" fails
In-Reply-To: <bug-2862-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2862-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2862-595-Hy29css1fk@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2862

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
can you attach the msg file, please?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 21 16:57:15 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 15:57:15 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2862] Segmentation fault when replying to a message
 where the "code conversion" fails
In-Reply-To: <bug-2862-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2862-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2862-595-w3CcqvUyIg@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2862

--- Comment #2 from Fabian Keil <fk at fabiankeil.de> ---
Created attachment 1219
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1219&action=edit
Reduced test case

I attached a reduced test case with some personal information removed.

It still causes the patched claws-mail to warn:
(claws-mail:20052): Claws-Mail-WARNING **: procmime_get_text_content(): Code
conversion failed.
and should still trigger the crash.

If not, I can request permission to attach the original or mail it privately.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 21 17:28:20 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 16:28:20 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2862] Segmentation fault when replying to a message
 where the "code conversion" fails
In-Reply-To: <bug-2862-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2862-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2862-595-86iHjxTzI5@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2862

--- Comment #3 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Created attachment 1220
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1220&action=edit
potential fix

Please revert your patch and try this patch. Let me know a) if it doesn't
crash, and b) if the quoted text looks as expected.

Thanks!

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 21 17:29:21 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 16:29:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2862] Segmentation fault when replying to a message
 where the "code conversion" fails
In-Reply-To: <bug-2862-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2862-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2862-595-TQO8bM3VbE@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2862

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 21 18:04:41 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 17:04:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2862] Segmentation fault when replying to a message
 where the "code conversion" fails
In-Reply-To: <bug-2862-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2862-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2862-595-4IPK8rTQxy@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2862

--- Comment #4 from Fabian Keil <fk at fabiankeil.de> ---
With your patch and without mine, claws-mail doesn't crash, the conversion
warning isn't shown on the console and the quoted message looks as expected.

Thanks, Paul.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 21 18:13:43 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 17:13:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2862] Segmentation fault when replying to a message
 where the "code conversion" fails
In-Reply-To: <bug-2862-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2862-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2862-595-LmVhbqz8n5@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2862

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #5 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest CVS and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://www.claws-mail.org/tracker/

2013-01-21 [paul]    3.9.0cvs57

    * src/codeconv.h
    * src/procmime.c
        fix bug 2862, 'Segmentation fault when replying to a
        message where the "code conversion" fails'. add support
        for X-VIET-VPS encoding

--- Comment #6 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Thanks Fabian.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 21 18:27:21 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 17:27:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2855] Displays pounds signs incorrectly
In-Reply-To: <bug-2855-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2855-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2855-595-2bTK7zsAJn@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2855

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
works for me. can you send me an example msg privately? (Use 'forward as
attachment')

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From linux at slavino.sk  Mon Jan 21 18:26:26 2013
From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 18:26:26 +0100
Subject: [Users] sent account not corrosponding to current mailbox
In-Reply-To: <20130120110535.39f12e79@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20130119165007.42F57854FB@mx.colino.net>
	<20130119170737.0182f568@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130119181142.57bf0ec1@bsd64.grem.de>
	<20130119183647.3ab6ff35@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130119204541.5ca30d96@bonifac.skk>
	<20130119195733.7893dae7@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20130119215019.5181d1d4@bonifac.skk>
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Message-ID: <20130121182626.264f2225@bonifac.skk>

Hi,

Dňa Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:05:35 +0000 Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk>
napísal:

> >Why bad idea putting more ML into one folder? For example, to have
> >two
> 
> Because it increases the chance of something being sent to the wrong
> place.  With two lists, it's 50:50 chance, with three 67% chance of

Yes, if there is 50:50 messages count :-)

And here is one good worklflow to prevent this - use "Reply" button,
eventually with the "Remove references", to break the thread.

> sending a message to the wrong list, and so forth.  Of course, if only
> one list accepts incoming mail, the others being announce only lists
> for example, then the foregoing becomes moot.

IMHO, putting ML into separate folders doesn't prevent to post mail
into wrong recipient :-)

Then putting more ML into one folder can be bad idea for one, but no bad
for others ;-)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 21 18:32:23 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 17:32:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2758] When trying to delete an account,
	Claws-Mail freezes
In-Reply-To: <bug-2758-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2758-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2758-595-HFGMrtevaq@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2758

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It's a problem of Unity on Ubuntu.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 21 18:34:58 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 17:34:58 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2694] Claws freezes when creating new mail folder
In-Reply-To: <bug-2694-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2694-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2694-595-yTfegREf9k@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2694

--- Comment #13 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
It's a problem of Unity on Ubuntu.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 21 18:43:22 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 17:43:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2862] Segmentation fault when replying to a message
 where the "code conversion" fails
In-Reply-To: <bug-2862-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2862-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2862-595-F0M9fRL7Jz@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2862

--- Comment #7 from Fabian Keil <fk at fabiankeil.de> ---
The code that is removed by my patch still seems wrong to me, though.

The context is:

if (str) {
[...]
} else {
    conv_fail = TRUE;
    if ((scan_ret = scan_callback(str, cb_data)) == TRUE)
        break;
}

It looks like the else branch would always segfault due to str being NULL and I
suspect that other messages could still reach it.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 21 19:21:16 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 18:21:16 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2863] New: Applying has_attachment quicksearch on IMAP
 segfaults
Message-ID: <bug-2863-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2863

            Bug ID: 2863
           Summary: Applying has_attachment quicksearch on IMAP segfaults
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: CVS
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: major
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders/IMAP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: gusnan at gusnan.se

Created attachment 1221
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1221&action=edit
gdb backtrace

Selecting an IMAP folder, and doing the has_attachment quicksearch instantly
causes an segfault. It works fine on a local folder.

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From exsudat at gmx.de  Mon Jan 21 19:56:05 2013
From: exsudat at gmx.de (exsudat)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 19:56:05 +0100
Subject: [Users] [tb2claws]  @addr missing the @ in argument 1
In-Reply-To: <20130120192600.6b34b998@thewildbeast>
References: <20130120190753.3923E854FB@mx.colino.net>
	<20130120192600.6b34b998@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20130121185719.6183C854AF@mx.colino.net>

On 2013-01-20 19:26 Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> There are 2 different errors here. Easiest thing, I thought, is to
> attached a fixed script for you. If you can test it and verify it
> works, I'll replace it in Claws sources.

Ok, this work fine.

But you should add a "usage" message with complete syntax if just
"./tb2calws" is called.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 21 20:35:43 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 19:35:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2855] Displays pounds signs incorrectly
In-Reply-To: <bug-2855-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2855-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2855-595-TQ9SsAxIZA@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2855

--- Comment #2 from Tony Houghton <h at realh.co.uk> ---
I've sent you an example of an email that displays incorrectly. Not all Amazon
messages have this problem. The "good" ones have text as well as html, specify
UTF-8 in the html head and use &pound;

The "bad" ones are HTML-only and use � signs. If I save the HTML and load it
into a text editor (gvim or one based on gtksourceview) it shows plain � signs,
so I suspect that Amazon's � signs are UTF-8 contrary to what it says in the
html head, and the other browsers/viewers are silently correcting a common
error.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 21 20:56:09 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 19:56:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2855] Displays pounds signs incorrectly
In-Reply-To: <bug-2855-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2855-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2855-595-TjBu4wDPPo@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2855

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         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #3 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
After looking at the source of the message, (sent privately), the problem is a
broken message. It's UTF-8 encoded, but with an iso-8859-1 meta tag.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 22 10:45:57 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 09:45:57 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2864] New: implement a search field
Message-ID: <bug-2864-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2864

            Bug ID: 2864
           Summary: implement a search field
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.1
          Hardware: All
                OS: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Address Book
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: exsudat at gmx.de

In the adressbook window is now search field. There is no menu for searching.
How can I find a adress inside my adressbook? I have to sort the entrys and
scroll them.

There need to be a simple search field inside the adressbook-UI.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 22 10:50:53 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 09:50:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2865] New: adressbook-search in To: field doesn't
 search for lastname
Message-ID: <bug-2865-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2865

            Bug ID: 2865
           Summary: adressbook-search in To: field doesn't search for
                    lastname
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.1
          Hardware: All
                OS: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Compose Window
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: exsudat at gmx.de

Here an example adressbook entry:
Fullname: Werner Voo
Lastname: Voo
Firstname: Werner
mail: wv at world.mail

If I enter in the To-Field: "Werner", "werner" or "wv" and press TAB the
correct adress is displayed.

But If I enter "voo" or "Voo" it is not. A lastname should be found!

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 22 11:21:01 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 10:21:01 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2864] implement a search field
In-Reply-To: <bug-2864-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2864-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2864-595-24j3ceaZry@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2864

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 1918 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 22 11:21:01 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 10:21:01 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1918] add a search for contacts
In-Reply-To: <bug-1918-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1918-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-1918-595-oi8CKrtMJm@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1918

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*** Bug 2864 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 22 11:24:06 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 10:24:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2865] adressbook-search in To: field doesn't search
 for lastname
In-Reply-To: <bug-2865-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2865-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2865-595-1XPE8qljJQ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2865

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
That's because it's an auto-complete and not a search

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 22 13:03:29 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:03:29 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2865] adressbook-search in To: field doesn't search
 for lastname
In-Reply-To: <bug-2865-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2865-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2865-595-jNz09ibYwv@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2865

--- Comment #2 from Christian Buhtz <exsudat at gmx.de> ---
Ok, then I modify my feauter request.

Please make it modifyable if the adress-field is handled as auto-complete or as
a real search-field.

If a search-field would be implemented, no one every need auto-complete.

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From itz at buug.org  Tue Jan 22 19:50:23 2013
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 10:50:23 -0800
Subject: [Users] Score column not updated when "processing" manually
Message-ID: <20130122105023.4ad62148.itz@buug.org>

Most of my processing rules adjust the message score one way or the
other.  This works fine when I let claws run the rules automatically as
I enter each folder.  But this time, after adding a new rule, I wanted
to see the effect immediately so I hit the menu item "Tools|Run folder
processing rules".  The adjusted scores were not displayed in the
summary pane.

On the other hand, the summaries _were_ colorized correctly based on the
new scores.  So the scoring is in fact done, only a view refresh pass is
missing somewhere.

Claws 3.8.1

Should I file a bug?

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From richard at g8jvm.com  Tue Jan 22 21:07:58 2013
From: richard at g8jvm.com (Richard)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 20:07:58 +0000
Subject: [Users] MS Exchange 2010 & IMAP
Message-ID: <50FEF19E.2070901@g8jvm.com>

Hi

Back in April last year I was getting horrendous delays when changing
folders, which part was due to my ISP and part due to my mail providers
MS exchange server.
I couldn't resolve the issues which didn't appear with TBird, so
reluctantly I change over to TBird. Since then my ISP has upped the
speed to 30 Mb.

However, at the weekend i was getting continuous password rejection from
the exchange 2010 sever. I've spent most of the day trying to get this
resolved with the
mail host, but to very little avail. Apart from finding they changed to
STARTTLS
I've been trying to get CM to work,  so far
I have Authentication method set to automatic, and on start-up, all
folders are scanned and new mail delivered, but when change folders
I'm getting authentication failure and my password is requested.
Looking at the network log i have this:-

[19:53:49] * message: Account 'richard at g8jvm.com': Connecting to IMAP4
server: IMAP.exchange.simply.ms:143...
[19:53:49] IMAP4< * OK The Microsoft Exchange IMAP4 service is ready.
[19:53:49] IMAP4> 1 STARTTLS
[19:53:49] IMAP4< 1 OK Begin TLS negotiation now.
[19:53:50] * message: IMAP connection is un-authenticated
[19:53:50] IMAP4> 2 CAPABILITY
[19:53:50] IMAP4< * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 AUTH=NTLM AUTH=GSSAPI
AUTH=PLAIN UIDPLUS CHILDREN IDLE NAMESPACE LITERAL+
[19:53:50] IMAP4< 2 OK CAPABILITY completed.
[19:53:50] IMAP4> Logging richard at g8jvm.com to imap.exchange.simply.ms
using GSSAPI
[19:53:50] IMAP4< CAPABILITY completed.
[19:53:50] ** warning: IMAP error on imap.exchange.simply.ms: LOGIN error
[19:53:50] IMAP4< Error logging in to imap.exchange.simply.ms
[19:53:50] IMAP4> Logging richard at g8jvm.com to imap.exchange.simply.ms
using LOGIN
[19:53:50] IMAP4< LOGIN failed.
[19:53:50] ** warning: IMAP error on imap.exchange.simply.ms: LOGIN error
[19:53:50] IMAP4< Error logging in to imap.exchange.simply.ms
[19:55:06] IMAP4> 4 LOGOUT
[19:55:06] IMAP4< * BYE Connection is closed. 13

It appears to me that its using GSSAPI initially then drops back to
LOGIN, as I can move through the mail
folders about five times, then the next time I get an authentication error

This problem appeared at the weekend and effect all three mail clients I
have, including the imap mail client on my Android
mobile phone.

I'm using Tbird to send this as I still have to get smtp to function
again on CM , but Tbird is as flakey as hell with what ever has changed,
so I'd like to be able to use CM again as at the moment its marginally
more stable

How do I make sure the authentication handshaking between CM and this 
damn exchange 2010 server stay the same, please ????

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From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Tue Jan 22 22:06:22 2013
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:06:22 -0500
Subject: [Users] MS Exchange 2010 & IMAP
In-Reply-To: <50FEF19E.2070901@g8jvm.com>
References: <50FEF19E.2070901@g8jvm.com>
Message-ID: <20130122160622.0000155b@unknown>

On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 20:07:58 +0000
Richard <richard at g8jvm.com> wrote:

> How do I make sure the authentication handshaking between CM and this 
> damn exchange 2010 server stay the same, please ????

The root cause of the problem isn't Exchange. It's OpenSSL. The OpenSSL
developers removed automatic cipher negotiation in v1.0 leaving it up
to the program using the libraries to do the heavy lifting. You'll run
into this with anything that uses OpenSSL 1.0 expecting it to do cipher
negotiation.

In CM's case it's libetpan that triggers the problem. CM relies on
libetpan for SSL and TLS authentication. libetpan in turn relies on
OpenSSL for ciphers and cipher negotiation. See above.

I've found two solutions to the problem.

1. Compile libetpan with GnuTLS instead of OpenSSL, and tell CM to use
this version. I've successfully done this on Macintosh with MacPorts
and on Debian Squeeze and Wheezy. I believe that the Windows build
system in SVN does this.

2. Use DavMail to proxy your IMAP, et.al., connections to your site's
OWA/OWS server. This requires no code compiling on your part but it
does require that your site has Outlook Web Access/Services enabled and
functioning properly. Which, truth be told, is more likely than having
the Exchange IMAP connector enabled and functioning properly.

-- 
Rich P.


From mir at miras.org  Tue Jan 22 22:22:11 2013
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 22:22:11 +0100
Subject: [Users] MS Exchange 2010 & IMAP
In-Reply-To: <20130122160622.0000155b@unknown>
References: <50FEF19E.2070901@g8jvm.com>
	<20130122160622.0000155b@unknown>
Message-ID: <20130122222211.0aa00b56@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:06:22 -0500
Rich Pieri <richard.pieri at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 1. Compile libetpan with GnuTLS instead of OpenSSL, and tell CM to use
> this version. I've successfully done this on Macintosh with MacPorts
> and on Debian Squeeze and Wheezy. I believe that the Windows build
> system in SVN does this.
> 
gnutls is default on Debian so you should not need to do anything on
Squeeze or Wheezy.

To avoid your account using different login methods instead of default
which is 'automatic' you should configure it to use 'login'. This will
prevent changing login method over time.

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michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
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http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
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From proge at riseup.net  Tue Jan 22 23:23:20 2013
From: proge at riseup.net (Paul Roge)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:23:20 -0800
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2858] New: undesired filtering to trash
 automatically
In-Reply-To: <20130117133613.000075ca@unknown>
References: <bug-2858-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
	<20130117133613.000075ca@unknown>
Message-ID: <20130122142320.63cf4ab7@hercules.earthlink.net>

> > Is there a particular setting that causes this behavior?
> 
> Spam filtering. This isn't a bug; it's working as designed.
> 
> You need to tell CM that the message in question is not spam. You do
> this by selecting the message and clicking the Ham button on the
> toolbar.

Yes, as stated in my report, I tried that already and it doesn't change the behavior. Any other ideas? Again, when emails are marked as ***SPAM*** claws-mail redirects the messages to the trash folder, even if they are marked by claws-mail as ham (ie no spam icon next to them).


From richard at g8jvm.com  Tue Jan 22 23:27:10 2013
From: richard at g8jvm.com (Richard Bown)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 22:27:10 +0000
Subject: [Users] Is this list still active
Message-ID: <20130122222710.42177ee2@lap-g8jvm.localdomain>

Hi 
sorry for the bandwidth if it is
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From mailinglists at gusnan.se  Tue Jan 22 23:29:26 2013
From: mailinglists at gusnan.se (Andreas =?UTF-8?B?UsO2bm5xdWlzdA==?=)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 23:29:26 +0100
Subject: [Users] Is this list still active
In-Reply-To: <20130122222710.42177ee2@lap-g8jvm.localdomain>
References: <20130122222710.42177ee2@lap-g8jvm.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20130122232926.7fa69deb@debian.lan>

On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 22:27:10 +0000,
Richard Bown<richard at g8jvm.com> wrote:

>Hi 
>sorry for the bandwidth if it is

Of course it is - Why shouldn't it be? It has been a bit quiet the last
few days though.

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From ricardo at mones.org  Wed Jan 23 09:33:46 2013
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:33:46 +0100
Subject: [Users] Is this list still active
In-Reply-To: <20130122232926.7fa69deb@debian.lan>
References: <20130122222710.42177ee2@lap-g8jvm.localdomain>
	<20130122232926.7fa69deb@debian.lan>
Message-ID: <20130123083346.GA26329@trasgu>

On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 11:29:26PM +0100, Andreas Rönnquist wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 22:27:10 +0000,
> Richard Bown<richard at g8jvm.com> wrote:
> 
> >Hi 
> >sorry for the bandwidth if it is
> 
> Of course it is - Why shouldn't it be? It has been a bit quiet the last
> few days though.

  Of course this is not LKML, but quiet? Really? :)
  http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2013-January/thread.html

  Maybe some spam catcher is putting the list messages where it shouldn't...
-- 
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  Impatience, and Hubris.                                    man perl

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jan 23 10:02:39 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:02:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2863] Applying has_attachment quicksearch on IMAP
	segfaults
In-Reply-To: <bug-2863-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2863-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2863-595-B6dBIWHN2t@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2863

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Thanks for the report, fixing!

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From abrolag at users.sourceforge.net  Wed Jan 23 10:06:55 2013
From: abrolag at users.sourceforge.net (Abrolag)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:06:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] Is this list still active
In-Reply-To: <20130123083346.GA26329@trasgu>
References: <20130122222710.42177ee2@lap-g8jvm.localdomain>
	<20130122232926.7fa69deb@debian.lan>
	<20130123083346.GA26329@trasgu>
Message-ID: <20130123090655.440e6ca7@debian>

On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:33:46 +0100
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 11:29:26PM +0100, Andreas Rönnquist wrote:
> > On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 22:27:10 +0000,
> > Richard Bown<richard at g8jvm.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >Hi 
> > >sorry for the bandwidth if it is
> > 
> > Of course it is - Why shouldn't it be? It has been a bit quiet the last
> > few days though.
> 
>   Of course this is not LKML, but quiet? Really? :)
>   http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2013-January/thread.html
> 
>   Maybe some spam catcher is putting the list messages where it shouldn't...

Oi! Keep the noise down. There's people trying to get some sleep round here :)

-- 
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http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jan 23 10:13:23 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:13:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2851] Claws doesn't request CAPABILITY after login
In-Reply-To: <bug-2851-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2851-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2851-595-KJQjl0Oaj3@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2851

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Hi,
Claws Mail doesn't use any fancy capabilities, anyway, so it's not missing out
much :)

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From richard at g8jvm.com  Wed Jan 23 10:25:37 2013
From: richard at g8jvm.com (Richard Bown)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:25:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] MS exchange 2010 ,IMAP authentication
Message-ID: <20130123092537.090b79ef@lap-g8jvm.localdomain>

Hi 
I don't if my previous posting got through, I haven't seen it.
Hence asking if the list was still active.
I had problems with slow downloads last year ans switched to TBird, as it didn't exhibit the
speed problem. Since then my ISP has upped the the connection to 30Mb.
From last weekend TBird showed authentication errors, continually requesting a new password
with IMAPs, changing to non secure IMAP helped a bit.
After spending all with the support team on my mail provider, I switched back to CM as its logging
is far superior.
I found that  the mail host had changed everything to STARTTLS, but also the use of LOGIN had
changed to GSSAPI.
 I'm still getting authentication problems when moving up or down the folder tree, sometimes it
 succeeds , others not.
The log file shows:-

[09:06:03] * message: Account 'richard at g8jvm.com': Connecting to IMAP4 server: imap.exchange.simply.ms:143...
[09:06:03] IMAP4< * OK The Microsoft Exchange IMAP4 service is ready. 
[09:06:03] IMAP4> 1 STARTTLS 
[09:06:03] IMAP4< 1 OK Begin TLS negotiation now. 
[09:06:03] * message: IMAP connection is un-authenticated
[09:06:03] IMAP4> 2 CAPABILITY 
[09:06:03] IMAP4< * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 AUTH=NTLM AUTH=GSSAPI AUTH=PLAIN UIDPLUS CHILDREN IDLE NAMESPACE LITERAL+ 
[09:06:03] IMAP4< 2 OK CAPABILITY completed. 
[09:06:03] IMAP4> Logging richard at g8jvm.com to imap.exchange.simply.ms using GSSAPI
[09:06:03] IMAP4< CAPABILITY completed.
[09:06:03] ** warning: IMAP error on imap.exchange.simply.ms: LOGIN error
[09:06:03] IMAP4< Error logging in to imap.exchange.simply.ms
[09:06:03] IMAP4> Logging richard at g8jvm.com to imap.exchange.simply.ms using LOGIN
[09:06:04] IMAP4< LOGIN completed.
[09:06:04] IMAP4< Login to imap.exchange.simply.ms successful
[09:06:04] IMAP4> 4 LIST "" "" 
[09:06:04] IMAP4< * LIST (\Noselect \HasChildren) "/" "" 
[09:06:04] IMAP4< 4 OK LIST completed. 
[09:06:04] IMAP4> 5 SELECT Drafts 
[09:06:04] IMAP4< * 36 EXISTS 
[09:06:04] IMAP4< * 0 RECENT 
[09:06:04] IMAP4< * FLAGS (\Seen \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft $MDNSent) 
[09:06:04] IMAP4< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Seen \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft $MDNSent)] Permanent flags 
[09:06:04] IMAP4< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 53086] UIDVALIDITY value 
[09:06:04] IMAP4< * OK [UIDNEXT 5739] The next unique identifier value 
[09:06:04] IMAP4< 5 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed. 
[09:06:04] IMAP4> 6 UID SEARCH CHARSET UTF-8 UNSEEN 
[09:06:04] IMAP4< 6 NO [BADCHARSET (US-ASCII)] The specified charset is not supp[... - 5 bytes more]
[09:06:04] ** warning: IMAP error on imap.exchange.simply.ms: UID SEARCH error
[09:06:04] IMAP4> 7 APPEND Drafts (\Seen) {1963} 
[09:06:04] IMAP4< + Ready for additional command text. 
[09:06:04] IMAP4> [data - 1965 bytes]
[09:06:04] IMAP4< [APPEND data - 72 bytes]
[09:06:04] IMAP4> 8 NOOP 
[09:06:04] IMAP4< 8 OK NOOP completed. 
[09:06:04] IMAP4> 9 UID STORE 5739 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen) 
[09:06:04] IMAP4< 9 OK STORE completed. 
[09:06:04] IMAP4> 10 UID STORE 5738 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted) 
[09:06:04] IMAP4< 10 OK STORE completed. 
[09:06:04] IMAP4> 11 UID SEARCH CHARSET UTF-8 ALL 
[09:06:05] IMAP4< 11 NO [BADCHARSET (US-ASCII)] The specified charset is not sup[... - 6 bytes more]
[09:06:05] ** warning: IMAP error on imap.exchange.simply.ms: UID SEARCH error
[09:06:05] IMAP4- [fetching UIDs...]
[09:06:05] IMAP4> 12 UID FETCH 1:* (UID) 
[09:06:05] IMAP4< * 1 FETCH (UID 4635) 
[09:06:05] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 844 bytes]
[09:06:05] IMAP4> 13 UID SEARCH CHARSET UTF-8 UNSEEN 
[09:06:05] IMAP4< 13 NO [BADCHARSET (US-ASCII)] The specified charset is not sup[... - 6 bytes more]
[09:06:05] ** warning: IMAP error on imap.exchange.simply.ms: UID SEARCH error
[09:06:44] IMAP4> 14 UID SEARCH CHARSET UTF-8 UNSEEN 
[09:06:44] IMAP4< 14 NO [BADCHARSET (US-ASCII)] The specified charset is not sup[... - 6 bytes more]
[09:06:44] ** warning: IMAP error on imap.exchange.simply.ms: UID SEARCH error
[09:06:44] IMAP4> 15 APPEND Drafts (\Seen) {2013} 
[09:06:44] IMAP4< + Ready for additional command text. 
[09:06:44] IMAP4> [data - 2015 bytes]
[09:06:44] IMAP4< [APPEND data - 73 bytes]
[09:06:44] IMAP4> 16 UID STORE 5740 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen) 
[09:06:44] IMAP4< 16 OK STORE completed. 
[09:06:44] IMAP4> 17 UID STORE 5739 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted) 
[09:06:44] IMAP4< 17 OK STORE completed. 
[09:06:44] IMAP4> 18 UID SEARCH CHARSET UTF-8 ALL 
[09:06:44] IMAP4< 18 NO [BADCHARSET (US-ASCII)] The specified charset is not sup[... - 6 bytes more]
[09:06:44] ** warning: IMAP error on imap.exchange.simply.ms: UID SEARCH error
[09:06:44] IMAP4- [fetching UIDs...]
[09:06:44] IMAP4> 19 UID FETCH 1:* (UID) 
[09:06:44] IMAP4< * 1 FETCH (UID 4635) 
[09:06:44] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 867 bytes]
[09:06:44] IMAP4> 20 UID SEARCH CHARSET UTF-8 UNSEEN 
[09:06:44] IMAP4< 20 NO [BADCHARSET (US-ASCII)] The specified charset is not sup[... - 6 bytes more]
[09:06:44] ** warning: IMAP error on imap.exchange.simply.ms: UID SEARCH error
[09:07:16] IMAP4> 21 NOOP 
[09:07:16] IMAP4< 21 OK NOOP completed. 
[09:07:16] IMAP4> 22 UID SEARCH CHARSET UTF-8 UNSEEN 
[09:07:16] IMAP4< 22 NO [BADCHARSET (US-ASCII)] The specified charset is not sup[... - 6 bytes more]
[09:07:16] ** warning: IMAP error on imap.exchange.simply.ms: UID SEARCH error
[09:07:16] IMAP4> 23 APPEND Drafts (\Seen) {2068} 
[09:07:16] IMAP4< + Ready for additional command text. 
[09:07:16] IMAP4> [data - 2070 bytes]
[09:07:16] IMAP4< [APPEND data - 73 bytes]
[09:07:16] IMAP4> 24 UID STORE 5741 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen) 
[09:07:17] IMAP4< 24 OK STORE completed. 
[09:07:17] IMAP4> 25 UID STORE 5740 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted) 
[09:07:17] IMAP4< 25 OK STORE completed. 
[09:07:17] IMAP4> 26 UID SEARCH CHARSET UTF-8 ALL 
[09:07:17] IMAP4< 26 NO [BADCHARSET (US-ASCII)] The specified charset is not sup[... - 6 bytes more]
[09:07:17] ** warning: IMAP error on imap.exchange.simply.ms: UID SEARCH error
[09:07:17] IMAP4- [fetching UIDs...]
[09:07:17] IMAP4> 27 UID FETCH 1:* (UID) 
[09:07:17] IMAP4< * 1 FETCH (UID 4635) 
[09:07:17] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 890 bytes]
[09:07:17] IMAP4> 28 UID SEARCH CHARSET UTF-8 UNSEEN 
[09:07:17] IMAP4< 28 NO [BADCHARSET (US-ASCII)] The specified charset is not sup[... - 6 bytes more]
[09:07:17] ** warning: IMAP error on imap.exchange.simply.ms: UID SEARCH error

From this it looks as if the initial exchange with TLS and GSSAPI is OK, then instead of staying
with GSSAPI , CM uses LOGIN.
I have the authentication method set to automatic , It seemed to cause less errors.
There is also the BADCHARSET (US-ASCII) , does anyone know what is need here, I've tried UTF-8
which it doesn't like.
I'm wondering if there was an update issued by MS, as all was working well until Saturday.
My Gmail account works fine, apart from losing a large proportion of mail from mailing lists,
hence the use of a 3rd party mail provider.
There's very little on the wiki etc on exchange2010 with CM, its mainly exchange2007.

Any help with this really appreciated


CM 3.9.0 FED FC17

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jan 23 10:34:25 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:34:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2656] crash: claws-mail assert failure when using SSL
 or STARTTLS with SMTP
In-Reply-To: <bug-2656-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2656-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2656-595-sL7GGBnEG4@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2656

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jan 23 10:02:39 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:02:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2863] Applying has_attachment quicksearch on IMAP
	segfaults
In-Reply-To: <bug-2863-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2863-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2863-595-bygf3IHk9o@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2863

--- Comment #2 from users at lists.claws-mail.org ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest CVS and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://www.claws-mail.org/tracker/

2013-01-23 [colin]    3.9.0cvs58

    * src/imap.c
        Fix bug #2863, "Applying has_attachment quicksearch
        on IMAP segfaults".

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jan 23 10:37:24 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:37:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2866] New: Preferences/headers pop-under
Message-ID: <bug-2866-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2866

            Bug ID: 2866
           Summary: Preferences/headers pop-under
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: CVS
          Hardware: PC
                OS: other
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: grayhat at gmx.net

Created attachment 1222
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1222&action=edit
Images showing the bug in action

The popup window to select headers in preferences->Message View->Text Options
(button Edit on the right of "Display headers in message view") and also the
popup window to select the user defined headers in the account preference (but
also other "popup" windows) are popping "under" the main window (e.g.
"preferences" or "account preferences") while the main window is disabled; a
quick workaround is to move such windows to the top left corner of the screen
so that the "pop under" will then be visible and can be moved and edited; a
quick fix, instead, may be to hide the "main window" when showing those popup
windows and unhide it when the popup (child) is closed

Further infos:

Claws v 3.9.0cvs12 running on Windows 7 x64; same behavior verified on x32 as
well

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From colin at colino.net  Wed Jan 23 10:51:59 2013
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 10:51:59 +0100
Subject: [Users] Further crash in cvs44
In-Reply-To: <20121213190331.000074d0@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20121206195546.67b218b5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121207103756.386da81a@colin>
	<20121207121606.00003e0a@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121208080056.2c7f2da7@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121211095335.6fde9679@colin>
	<20121211120002.0000018e@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121211140101.51c1ab81@colin>
	<20121211131513.00000665@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121213190331.000074d0@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20130123105159.2b937b99@colin>

Hi Brian,

> Today I downloaded cvs47 and rebuilt, then updated the rpms but didn't
> restart Claws. Within a couple of hours, Claws crashed. Last thing in
> the log file was an NNTP DATE command and server response. These seem
> to be sent once a minute, is this the keep alive?

Do you still get those NNTP DATE crashes ?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jan 23 10:58:07 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:58:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2726] IMAP inactivity disconnect misinterpreted as
	parse error
In-Reply-To: <bug-2726-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2726-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2726-595-5KML1F27eQ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2726

Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |colin at colino.net
           Severity|normal                      |enhancement

--- Comment #5 from Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> ---
Putting priority to "enhancement" as we now issue keepalives more aggressively.

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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Wed Jan 23 11:03:48 2013
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 10:03:48 +0000
Subject: [Users] Further crash in cvs44
In-Reply-To: <20130123105159.2b937b99@colin>
References: <20121206195546.67b218b5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121207103756.386da81a@colin>
	<20121207121606.00003e0a@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121208080056.2c7f2da7@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121211095335.6fde9679@colin>
	<20121211120002.0000018e@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121211140101.51c1ab81@colin>
	<20121211131513.00000665@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121213190331.000074d0@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20130123105159.2b937b99@colin>
Message-ID: <20130123100348.0000508d@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 10:51:59 +0100
Colin Leroy wrote:

> Hi Brian,
> 
> > Today I downloaded cvs47 and rebuilt, then updated the rpms but
> > didn't restart Claws. Within a couple of hours, Claws crashed. Last
> > thing in the log file was an NNTP DATE command and server response.
> > These seem to be sent once a minute, is this the keep alive?
> 
> Do you still get those NNTP DATE crashes ?

No, I don't, but I've been patiently waiting for one to come along just
in case it was something else. I will continue to monitor it and I'll
let you know if it reappears.

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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Wed Jan 23 11:05:03 2013
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 10:05:03 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2858] New: undesired filtering to trash
 automatically
In-Reply-To: <20130122142320.63cf4ab7@hercules.earthlink.net>
References: <bug-2858-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
	<20130117133613.000075ca@unknown>
	<20130122142320.63cf4ab7@hercules.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20130123100503.00002add@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:23:20 -0800
Paul Roge wrote:

> > > Is there a particular setting that causes this behavior?
> > 
> > Spam filtering. This isn't a bug; it's working as designed.
> > 
> > You need to tell CM that the message in question is not spam. You do
> > this by selecting the message and clicking the Ham button on the
> > toolbar.
> 
> Yes, as stated in my report, I tried that already and it doesn't
> change the behavior. Any other ideas? Again, when emails are marked
> as ***SPAM*** claws-mail redirects the messages to the trash folder,
> even if they are marked by claws-mail as ham (ie no spam icon next to
> them).

Sounds like you need to run the filter logging and see which filtering
rule is doing it.

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From jerry at seibercom.net  Wed Jan 23 11:56:38 2013
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 05:56:38 -0500
Subject: [Users] MS exchange 2010 ,IMAP authentication
In-Reply-To: <20130123092537.090b79ef@lap-g8jvm.localdomain>
References: <20130123092537.090b79ef@lap-g8jvm.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20130123055638.7dc95f26@scorpio>

On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:25:37 +0000
Richard Bown articulated:

> I don't if my previous posting got through, I haven't seen it.
> Hence asking if the list was still active.

You question was answered. If you are not receiving mail from this list
there is a problem on your end. Perhaps mail is stuck in some sort of
Spam filter you have installed. I would suggest that you check the
forums 'archive' and read the response to your question there. Then do
a through check of your entire mail system and find out why mail is
being discarded or fails to reach your INBOX.

List-Archive: <http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users>

I am 'Cc:' you a copy of this message. Something I rarely do with a
mailing list item. If you don't receive it then something is
definitely wrong on your end.

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From richard at g8jvm.com  Wed Jan 23 12:25:51 2013
From: richard at g8jvm.com (Richard Bown)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 11:25:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] MS exchange 2010 ,IMAP authentication
In-Reply-To: <20130123055638.7dc95f26@scorpio>
References: <20130123092537.090b79ef@lap-g8jvm.localdomain>
	<20130123055638.7dc95f26@scorpio>
Message-ID: <20130123112551.7825728c@lap-g8jvm.localdomain>

On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 05:56:38 -0500
Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:25:37 +0000
> Richard Bown articulated:
> 
> > I don't if my previous posting got through, I haven't seen it.
> > Hence asking if the list was still active.
> 
> You question was answered. If you are not receiving mail from this list
> there is a problem on your end. Perhaps mail is stuck in some sort of
> Spam filter you have installed. I would suggest that you check the
> forums 'archive' and read the response to your question there. Then do
> a through check of your entire mail system and find out why mail is
> being discarded or fails to reach your INBOX.
> 
> List-Archive: <http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users>
> 
> I am 'Cc:' you a copy of this message. Something I rarely do with a
> mailing list item. If you don't receive it then something is
> definitely wrong on your end.
> 

Thank Jerry

I did say I having horrendous problems with mail now, the problem with lost mail I'm sure the
exchange server.
in a previous answer pulled from the archives:-

To avoid your account using different login methods instead of default
which is 'automatic' you should configure it to use 'login'. This will
prevent changing login method over time.

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Here is the problem Micheal , someone in their wisdom at the weekend has removed the "LOGIN"
capability.

From the log file:-

 Account 'richard at g8jvm.com': Connecting to IMAP4 server: imap.exchange.simply.ms:143...
[10:59:31] IMAP4< * OK The Microsoft Exchange IMAP4 service is ready. 
[10:59:31] IMAP4> 1 STARTTLS 
[10:59:31] IMAP4< 1 OK Begin TLS negotiation now. 
* IMAP connection is un-authenticated
[10:59:31] IMAP4> 2 CAPABILITY 
[10:59:31] IMAP4< * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 AUTH=NTLM AUTH=GSSAPI AUTH=PLAIN UIDPLUS CHILDREN IDLE NAMESPACE LITERAL+ 
[10:59:31] IMAP4< 2 OK CAPABILITY completed. 
[10:59:31] IMAP4> Logging richard at g8jvm.com to imap.exchange.simply.ms using GSSAPI
[10:59:31] IMAP4< CAPABILITY completed.
** IMAP error on imap.exchange.simply.ms: LOGIN error
[10:59:31] IMAP4< Error logging in to imap.exchange.simply.ms
[10:59:31] IMAP4> Logging richard at g8jvm.com to imap.exchange.simply.ms using LOGIN


This shows that only NTLM, GSSAPI and PLAIN are recognised now

I've tried setting to GSSAPI but that fails
setting automatic starts as GSSAPI then changes to LOGIN, resulting in the authentication error.

Luckily they have left the ESMPT server to accept LOGIN and PLAIN.

How can I stop CM reverting to LOGIN when it starts with GSSAPI  ????
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From mlists at zoominternet.net  Thu Jan 24 16:40:13 2013
From: mlists at zoominternet.net (Robert)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:40:13 -0500
Subject: [Users] Key bindings
Message-ID: <20130124104013.14385d72@zoominternet.net>

Hello,

I am looking to change the arrow keys but I am not finding where these
are defined.  I am hoping someone can point be in the right direction.

What I would like to do is change the arrow keys to do the following;

UP-Arrow = Scroll message up
DOWN Arrow = Scroll message down
LEFT Arrow = Next message
RIGHT Arrow = Previous message

I believe right now using the left and right arrows switches between
the message list and folders.

Thank you for your help with this.


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jan 24 17:10:50 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 16:10:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2862] Segmentation fault when replying to a message
 where the "code conversion" fails
In-Reply-To: <bug-2862-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2862-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2862-595-BJPUttmVLh@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2862

--- Comment #8 from Fabian Keil <fk at fabiankeil.de> ---
Created attachment 1223
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1223&action=edit
Test case with an invented charset that still causes claws-mail to crash

I changed the charset in the test case and as expected this still triggers the
crash.

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From pvoigt at uos.de  Thu Jan 24 17:46:04 2013
From: pvoigt at uos.de (Dr. Peter Voigt)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:46:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] Portable usage of Claws Mail
In-Reply-To: <20121122170056.249a57e6@colin>
References: <20121122164752.00005eea@unknown> <20121122170056.249a57e6@colin>
Message-ID: <20130124174604.00005b92@unknown>

Am Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:00:56 +0100
schrieb Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>:

> On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 16:47:52 +0100, "Dr. Peter Voigt" <pvoigt at uos.de>
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> (No need to Cc me on users@, I'm subscribed)
> 
> > I often have to work on changing foreign Windows PCs. Therefore I'm
> > interested in a portable version of Claws Mail running from a USB
> > stick.
> 
> There's one over at portable-apps.com:
> http://portableapps.com/node/27682
> 
> > Is there a ZIP distribution of
> > http://www.claws-mail.org/win32/claws-mail-3.9.0cvs12-pkg23.exe
> > available? If not, could it be provided?
> 
> No (or not by me). Windows development is something I do for a
> fraction of our userbase mostly because I've interacted with a few of
> them since a few years and like them... But not enough to spend yet
> more time with yet another port who is of interest to a fraction of
> the fraction of our userbase :)
>  
> > Alternatively, could I simply copy the directory
> > C:\Program Files (x86)\GNU\Claws Mail and the settings directory to
> > my USB stick? Where exactly does the above installer spread it's
> > files over the hard disk? Are the any registry settings required
> > for running Claws Mail?
> 
> I suppose, if you ask the installer to install in some F: drive,
> and tell Claws' wizard to store its mail in F:\Mail, and launch Claws
> with --alternate-config-dir F:\something, it will work as long as your
> USB stick is mounted in F:
> 
> Unsupported, though.

Well, even if last activity is now about 2 month ago, I'd like to give
some feedback to other possible portable users of Claws.

I've finally found some time to test the portable capabilities of Claws
Mail. Good news first: The standard Windows Version of Claws
under http://www.claws-mail.org/win32/claws-mail-3.9.0cvs12-pkg23.exe
is fully usable on a USB stick. I've tested it under Windows XP and
Windows 7 x86_64 so far. If you are interested in Claws only, e.g.
without PGP and S/MIME support, just proceed as Colin described above.

Thinks are getting a bit trickier, if you need PGP and/or S/MIME. It
took me some time to test it out, because both portable Claws and
portable Gpg4win (http://files.gpg4win.org/gpg4win-2.1.0.exe) usage is
unsupported and hence not described anywhere.

For a real Claws user PGP and/or S/MIME usage is a must. Fortunately,
I've had some experience with portable usage of Gpg4win. I've just
copied the Gpg4win folder onto me USB stick and set following
environment variables: HOME, HOMEDIR and GNUPGHOME. With these
variables Gpg4win is fully usable to me on the command line. I did no
testing of GPA or Kleopatra. I you wish successful Gp4win interaction,
you have to tell Claws where to find Gpg4win. These settings are stored
in the following registry keys: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\GNU\GnuPG
and HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\GNU\Claws-Mail. Each key needs the entry
"Install Directory" pointing to the Claws installation directory.

I'm glad to having a portable Claws as well, because in the meanwhile
Claws Mail has become my favorite email client.

Peter



From lainecliff at gmail.com  Fri Jan 25 10:22:05 2013
From: lainecliff at gmail.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 09:22:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] Keeping CM online
Message-ID: <20130125092205.15262515@cliff-MXC061>

I've just installed CM 3.8.1 on Linux Mint and it seems to keep going
offline every few minutes. I've been through Preferences and I can't
see where you can tell CM to stay permanently online. Could anyone
point me in the right direction?

Thanks

Cliff


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan 25 10:29:19 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 09:29:19 +0000
Subject: [Users] Keeping CM online
In-Reply-To: <20130125092205.15262515@cliff-MXC061>
References: <20130125092205.15262515@cliff-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20130125092919.4d9d9a22@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 09:22:05 +0000
Cliff Laine <lainecliff at gmail.com> wrote: 

> I've just installed CM 3.8.1 on Linux Mint and it seems to keep
> going offline every few minutes. I've been through Preferences and
> I can't see where you can tell CM to stay permanently online. Could
> anyone point me in the right direction?

Your Claws Mail is built with Network Manager support. It will be
Network Manager that keeps telling Claws that it is offline/online.

To get rid of the Network Manager annoyance, quit Claws then open
~/.claws-mail/clawsrc in a text editor and set the option
'use_networkmanager' to 0.

with regards

Paul


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jan 25 11:01:38 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:01:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2863] Applying has_attachment quicksearch on IMAP
	segfaults
In-Reply-To: <bug-2863-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2863-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2863-595-1Zv9BTBHBk@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2863

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

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From lainecliff at gmail.com  Sat Jan 26 12:48:43 2013
From: lainecliff at gmail.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 11:48:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] Keeping CM online
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1359111604.20741.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
References: <mailman.5.1359111604.20741.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
Message-ID: <20130126114843.3b98edb6@cliff-MXC061>

Thanks to Paul for the solution:

>Your Claws Mail is built with Network Manager support. It will be
>Network Manager that keeps telling Claws that it is offline/online.

>To get rid of the Network Manager annoyance, quit Claws then open
>~/.claws-mail/clawsrc in a text editor and set the option
>'use_networkmanager' to 0.

Cliff


From lainecliff at gmail.com  Sat Jan 26 12:54:05 2013
From: lainecliff at gmail.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 11:54:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] Enter key required before full message appears
Message-ID: <20130126115405.27034458@cliff-MXC061>

Would anyone know why I have to press the enter key before message
bodies appear? 

The behaviour is: open CM (which automatically opens my main
account's inbox), and the first message in the list of messages is
highlighted, but the message pane remains blank until I press the Enter
key.

Cliff

CM 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.18.3; i486-pc-linux-gnu) 
Linux Mint 14 
KDE 4.9.4


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sat Jan 26 15:46:37 2013
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 14:46:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] Enter key required before full message appears
In-Reply-To: <20130126115405.27034458@cliff-MXC061>
References: <20130126115405.27034458@cliff-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20130126144637.689af378@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 11:54:05 +0000
Cliff Laine <lainecliff at gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Cliff,

>The behaviour is: open CM (which automatically opens my main
>account's inbox), and the first message in the list of messages is
>highlighted, but the message pane remains blank until I press the Enter
>key.

Preferences/Display/Summaries "Open message when selected" is
incorrectly set.  You'll want either 'Always' or 'When message view is
visible'.  ATM, it's probably set to 'Never'.

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From linxt at comcast.net  Fri Jan 25 19:08:08 2013
From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:08:08 -0800
Subject: [Users] Question about search terms
Message-ID: <20130125100808.3ad70a8a@desktop-1.home>

Hi all you CM users,
What is the correct method of searching for a message that contains a
non-exact term?  

For instance I want to find an existing message that is about a certain
setting in Yast2 but don't know the exact wording used in the message
or subject.  If I use the search folder method (ctrl-shift-F), does the
subject entered in the subject field have to be the subject exactly as
in the original message or can I somehow specify that it contains
certain words?  How is this done?

Thanks, Tom

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enough people to make it worth the effort.
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openSUSE 12.1x86_64    openSUSE 12.2x86_64
KDE 4.7.2, FF 7.0      KDE 4.9.1, FF 15.0
claws-mail 3.8.0
registered linux user 263467
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From linxt at comcast.net  Fri Jan 25 22:03:17 2013
From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:03:17 -0800
Subject: [Users] Problem compiling plugins
Message-ID: <20130125130317.7b3e27b8@desktop-1.home>

In Claws-Mail 3.9.0 I am having error messages when running "configure"
on any of the downloaded plugins that came from the CM download site.

The error says:  No package 'claws-mail' found

The CM executable is in the normal place, "/usr/bin/claws-mail".  The
support & configuration files are located in "/common/.claws-Mail"
with a symlink from my "/home/tom" directory pointing to them. 

I have tried changing the "PKG_CONFIG_PATH" to contain both of the
above locations but it hasn't made any difference.  I also tried
compiling as ROOT user with the same symlink but that didn't work
either.

CM was installed to it's default locations and the .claws-mail folder
was then moved to /common/.claws-mail and the symlink created.  I do
this so I can use CM with different distros using the same data for all
of them (also ensuring they are all using the same versions).

I would appreciate any advice/instructions about how to get the
compilation process to work without throwing errors.

Thanks, Tom

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enough people to make it worth the effort.
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claws-mail 3.9.0
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From rcook at pcug.org.au  Sat Jan 26 22:46:01 2013
From: rcook at pcug.org.au (Owen)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:46:01 +1100
Subject: [Users] Problem compiling plugins
In-Reply-To: <20130125130317.7b3e27b8@desktop-1.home>
References: <20130125130317.7b3e27b8@desktop-1.home>
Message-ID: <16c45b4e2861f20d0a2671fb105058ce.squirrel@members.tip.net.au>


> In Claws-Mail 3.9.0 I am having error messages when running
> "configure"
> on any of the downloaded plugins that came from the CM download site.
>
> The error says:  No package 'claws-mail' found
>
> The CM executable is in the normal place, "/usr/bin/claws-mail".  The
> support & configuration files are located in "/common/.claws-Mail"
> with a symlink from my "/home/tom" directory pointing to them.
>
> I have tried changing the "PKG_CONFIG_PATH" to contain both of the
> above locations but it hasn't made any difference.  I also tried
> compiling as ROOT user with the same symlink but that didn't work
> either.
>
> CM was installed to it's default locations and the .claws-mail folder
> was then moved to /common/.claws-mail and the symlink created.  I do
> this so I can use CM with different distros using the same data for
> all
> of them (also ensuring they are all using the same versions).
>
> I would appreciate any advice/instructions about how to get the
> compilation process to work without throwing errors.







You probably need the development files for claws-mail, this distro
I'm using calls it   libclaws-mail-dev



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From hdixon at bigpond.net.au  Sun Jan 27 04:40:25 2013
From: hdixon at bigpond.net.au (hdixon)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:40:25 +1100
Subject: [Users] wrong date format
Message-ID: <20130127144025.00007cdd@unknown>


Hi, I am thinking this is a bug, but I am not sure.
I have both a windows 7  (En-Australian) and also an open suse 12.2
(En-UK) machine.  The default date (configure/preferences/date format)
is %c (locale) but this is displaying in En-US format.

Can someone please confirm this is a bug, and that there is not
something else I need to change in my configuration.

With Thanks,
H
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From lainecliff at gmail.com  Sun Jan 27 10:12:57 2013
From: lainecliff at gmail.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:12:57 +0000
Subject: [Users] Enter key required before full message appears
Message-ID: <20130127091257.2f5658f5@cliff-MXC061>

Brad Rogers brad at fineby.me.uk
Sat Jan 26 15:46:37 CET 2013

>Hello Cliff,

>>The behaviour is: open CM (which automatically opens my main
>>account's inbox), and the first message in the list of messages is
>>highlighted, but the message pane remains blank until I press the
>>Enter
>>key.

>Preferences/Display/Summaries "Open message when selected" is
>incorrectly set.  You'll want either 'Always' or 'When message view is
>visible'.  ATM, it's probably set to 'Never'.

Many thanks Brad--hadn't noticed that preference on this new install.

Cliff



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 27 13:38:04 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:38:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] Question about search terms
In-Reply-To: <20130125100808.3ad70a8a@desktop-1.home>
References: <20130125100808.3ad70a8a@desktop-1.home>
Message-ID: <20130127123804.77e52df8@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:08:08 -0800
Thomas Taylor <linxt at comcast.net> wrote: 

> For instance I want to find an existing message that is about a
> certain setting in Yast2 but don't know the exact wording used in
> the message or subject.  If I use the search folder method
> (ctrl-shift-F), does the subject entered in the subject field have
> to be the subject exactly as in the original message or can I
> somehow specify that it contains certain words?  How is this done?

Try it and see. A subject of a message does not have to match the
string entered into the subject field exactly. e.g. enter '123' and
any message with '123' somewhere in the subject will be matched.

Have a look at Quick Search instead, it's much more
powerful. '/Edit/Quiuck search' or click the button with the
magnifying glass between the msg list and msg.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 27 14:49:45 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:49:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] Problem compiling plugins
In-Reply-To: <20130125130317.7b3e27b8@desktop-1.home>
References: <20130125130317.7b3e27b8@desktop-1.home>
Message-ID: <20130127134945.4e66bb29@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:03:17 -0800
Thomas Taylor <linxt at comcast.net> wrote: 

> I have tried changing the "PKG_CONFIG_PATH" to contain both of the
> above locations but it hasn't made any difference.  I also tried
> compiling as ROOT user with the same symlink but that didn't work
> either.

PKG_CONFIG_PATH is supposed to point at the location of the
pkgconfig files, in this case claws-mail.pc. Standard location would
be /usr/lib/pkgconfig/

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 27 14:58:08 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:58:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] wrong date format
In-Reply-To: <20130127144025.00007cdd@unknown>
References: <20130127144025.00007cdd@unknown>
Message-ID: <20130127135808.5d298bd6@thewildbeast>

On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:40:25 +1100
hdixon <hdixon at bigpond.net.au> wrote: 

> Hi, I am thinking this is a bug, but I am not sure.
> I have both a windows 7  (En-Australian) and also an open suse 12.2
> (En-UK) machine.  The default date (configure/preferences/date
> format) is %c (locale) but this is displaying in En-US format.
> 
> Can someone please confirm this is a bug, and that there is not
> something else I need to change in my configuration.

Works fine here. What does it display? What do you expect it to
display?

with regards

Paul


-- 
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 27 18:47:41 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:47:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2867] New: Windows Vista - Three Column view does not
 show correct column headers
Message-ID: <bug-2867-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2867

            Bug ID: 2867
           Summary: Windows Vista - Three Column view does not show
                    correct column headers
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.9.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: other
            Status: NEW
          Severity: major
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: me at mikedanson.net

On Windows Vista Basic Home (and probably all Win versions)

Using Three Column view, the columns selected do not display as set in View ->
Set Displayed Columns.

Other views, including Standard are ok. But in Three Column view only Subject
and Size columns display (regardless of settings in Set Displayed Columns).

Any user that prefers or needs Three Column view on Win will not be able to use
this Claws for Win.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 27 19:34:27 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:34:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2867] Windows Vista - Three Column view does not show
 correct column headers
In-Reply-To: <bug-2867-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2867-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2867-595-NjMCxH35Il@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2867

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Severity|major                       |minor

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
That's not a bug, that's by design. This is how '3 columns' view works,
regardless of the OS.

What you are right about though is that '/View/Set displayed columns' should
not show columns that cannot be displayed in the current layout.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jan 27 20:13:58 2013
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:13:58 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2868] New: address completion with gpg keyring
Message-ID: <bug-2868-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2868

            Bug ID: 2868
           Summary: address completion with gpg keyring
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.9.0
          Hardware: All
                OS: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Compose Window
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: mail at earthworm.de

Public keys in gnupg's keyring have at least one uid which contains a mail
address. This address is not necessarily in claw's address book, so I would
like to have address completion from gnupg's public keyring.

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From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Mon Jan 28 19:40:29 2013
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:40:29 -0800
Subject: [Users] Set default for PDF
Message-ID: <20130128104029.4a9914fb@from-theboss.911networks.com>

Hi,

I run 3.90 on xUbuntu 12.04. How can change the default PDF from
evince to muPDF?

-- 
Thanks
http://www.911networks.com
When the network has to work


From rcook at pcug.org.au  Mon Jan 28 19:59:58 2013
From: rcook at pcug.org.au (Owen)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:59:58 +1100
Subject: [Users] Set default for PDF
In-Reply-To: <20130128104029.4a9914fb@from-theboss.911networks.com>
References: <20130128104029.4a9914fb@from-theboss.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <fd3756d838269ce7270508f7a962d74b.squirrel@members.tip.net.au>


> I run 3.90 on xUbuntu 12.04. How can change the default PDF from
> evince to muPDF?


Presumably you are doing a Right Click->Open with?

Select your preferred program and tick "Remember this"

-- 
Owen



From anmeyer at anup.de  Mon Jan 28 20:19:34 2013
From: anmeyer at anup.de (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:19:34 +0100
Subject: [Users] Message-ID
Message-ID: <20130128201934.2f5f4c94@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>

Hello!

Claws-mail generates the Message-ID including the hostname at domain.de.
Is it possible to change that somehow?

  Andreas


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jan 28 23:27:27 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:27:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] Message-ID
In-Reply-To: <20130128201934.2f5f4c94@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
References: <20130128201934.2f5f4c94@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
Message-ID: <20130128222727.22e47387@thewildbeast>

On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:19:34 +0100
Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at anup.de> wrote: 

> Claws-mail generates the Message-ID including the
> hostname at domain.de. Is it possible to change that somehow?

See the first 2 options on the Send page of the Account Preferences.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From berndth at gmx.de  Tue Jan 29 00:43:11 2013
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:43:11 +0100
Subject: [Users] Keeping CM online
In-Reply-To: <20130126114843.3b98edb6@cliff-MXC061>
References: <mailman.5.1359111604.20741.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
	<20130126114843.3b98edb6@cliff-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20130129004311.27b9da73@wodan>

On Sa, 26.01.2013 11:48, Cliff Laine wrote:

>Thanks to Paul for the solution:
>
>>Your Claws Mail is built with Network Manager support. It will be
>>Network Manager that keeps telling Claws that it is offline/online.
>
>>To get rid of the Network Manager annoyance, quit Claws then open
>>~/.claws-mail/clawsrc in a text editor and set the option
>>'use_networkmanager' to 0.

That's not really a solution - it's a workaround. Claws Mail might not
be the only application that interprets NetworkManager's network status
reports, so if NetworkManager is lying, unexpected behaviour may
result. The solution would be to fix NetworkManager.

Holger


From mlists at zoominternet.net  Tue Jan 29 04:02:00 2013
From: mlists at zoominternet.net (Robert)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:02:00 -0500
Subject: [Users] Key bindings
In-Reply-To: <20130124104013.14385d72@zoominternet.net>
References: <20130124104013.14385d72@zoominternet.net>
Message-ID: <20130128220200.4c4a6087@zoominternet.net>

On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:40:13 -0500
Robert <mlists at zoominternet.net> wrote:

> I am looking to change the arrow keys but I am not finding where these
> are defined.  I am hoping someone can point be in the right direction.
> 
> What I would like to do is change the arrow keys to do the following;
> 
> UP-Arrow = Scroll message up
> DOWN Arrow = Scroll message down
> LEFT Arrow = Next message
> RIGHT Arrow = Previous message
> 
> I believe right now using the left and right arrows switches between
> the message list and folders.
> 
> Thank you for your help with this.

No one knows how I can make this happen?


--  
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Robert

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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Tue Jan 29 04:12:30 2013
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:12:30 -0500
Subject: [Users] How to transfer templates?
Message-ID: <20130128221230.5de098f6@mydesk>

Hi all,

I just wiped my Ubuntu 11.10 and replaced it with Xubuntu 12.0. Claws
is running just fine, but I've been unable to transfer my templates. I
found the template text in my old .claws-mail/folderitemrc and copied
the template items to the new .claws-mail/folderitemrc after closing
Claws, but when I opened Claws the templates still weren't applied to
their respective directories, so I need to transfer something else.

Out of caution, I really don't want to wholesale copy everything from
backup to new. Instead, I want to do it with surgical precision. So
does anyone know what else I have to copy in order to have my
per-folder templates in the new Claws-Mail?

Thanks

SteveT


From anmeyer at anup.de  Tue Jan 29 09:32:56 2013
From: anmeyer at anup.de (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:32:56 +0100
Subject: [Users] Message-ID
In-Reply-To: <20130128222727.22e47387@thewildbeast>
References: <20130128201934.2f5f4c94@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130128222727.22e47387@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20130129093256.2d9f17b3@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>

Hello Paul!

Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:19:34 +0100
> Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at anup.de> wrote: 
> 
> > Claws-mail generates the Message-ID including the
> > hostname at domain.de. Is it possible to change that somehow?
> 
> See the first 2 options on the Send page of the Account Preferences.

The first 2 options say:
send mailaddress of the account in Message-ID
and
create headline for X-Mailer
Both are unticked.

The third says
insert user defined headline

IIRC there was an option saying "don't create Message-ID" in previous
versions of CM. I'd like to test sending without Messge-ID to let
the MTA create it. Is the Message-ID important for the threading and
will it work still when the MTA creates one and not CM?

What can I do?

  Andreas


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 29 09:48:33 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:48:33 +0000
Subject: [Users] Message-ID
In-Reply-To: <20130129093256.2d9f17b3@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
References: <20130128201934.2f5f4c94@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130128222727.22e47387@thewildbeast>
	<20130129093256.2d9f17b3@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
Message-ID: <20130129084833.7962a0c1@thewildbeast>

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:32:56 +0100
Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at anup.de> wrote: 

> What can I do?

Since you are using the option to suppress the X-Mailer header, it
would help to state which version of Claws Mail you are using.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From nicolas.claws at iselin.ch  Tue Jan 29 10:01:01 2013
From: nicolas.claws at iselin.ch (Nicolas Iselin)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:01:01 +0100
Subject: [Users] Message-ID
In-Reply-To: <20130129093256.2d9f17b3@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
References: <20130128201934.2f5f4c94@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130128222727.22e47387@thewildbeast>
	<20130129093256.2d9f17b3@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
Message-ID: <20130129100101.20cf3b20@omega>

Am Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:32:56 +0100
schrieb Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at anup.de>:

>  I'd like to test sending without Messge-ID to let
> the MTA create it. 

If you only want to test whether the MTA works properly, why do you use
Claws at all? Telnet would be sufficient to do so:

http://www.yuki-onna.co.uk/email/smtp.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Mail_Transfer_Protocol

Nicolas


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 29 10:09:36 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:09:36 +0000
Subject: [Users] How to transfer templates?
In-Reply-To: <20130128221230.5de098f6@mydesk>
References: <20130128221230.5de098f6@mydesk>
Message-ID: <20130129090936.4a584d6a@thewildbeast>

On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:12:30 -0500
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote: 

> Out of caution, I really don't want to wholesale copy everything
> from backup to new. Instead, I want to do it with surgical
> precision. So does anyone know what else I have to copy in order to
> have my per-folder templates in the new Claws-Mail?

From `man claws-mail`:

$HOME/.claws-mail/folderitemrc
	All folders' attributes

BTW, there's really no need for such caution.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From anmeyer at anup.de  Tue Jan 29 10:44:07 2013
From: anmeyer at anup.de (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:44:07 +0100
Subject: [Users] Message-ID
In-Reply-To: <20130129084833.7962a0c1@thewildbeast>
References: <20130128201934.2f5f4c94@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130128222727.22e47387@thewildbeast>
	<20130129093256.2d9f17b3@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130129084833.7962a0c1@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20130129104407.37204852@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>

Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:32:56 +0100
> Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at anup.de> wrote: 
> 
> > What can I do?
> 
> Since you are using the option to suppress the X-Mailer header, it
> would help to state which version of Claws Mail you are using.

I am using version 3.8.1 on an openSUSE 12.2

> with regards
> 
> Paul

  Andreas


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 29 10:46:12 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:46:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] Message-ID
In-Reply-To: <20130129093256.2d9f17b3@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
References: <20130128201934.2f5f4c94@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130128222727.22e47387@thewildbeast>
	<20130129093256.2d9f17b3@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
Message-ID: <20130129094612.4681785f@thewildbeast>

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:32:56 +0100
Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at anup.de> wrote: 

> Is the Message-ID important for the threading and
> will it work still when the MTA creates one and not CM?

Yes and yes.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From anmeyer at anup.de  Tue Jan 29 10:47:03 2013
From: anmeyer at anup.de (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:47:03 +0100
Subject: [Users] Message-ID
In-Reply-To: <20130129100101.20cf3b20@omega>
References: <20130128201934.2f5f4c94@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130128222727.22e47387@thewildbeast>
	<20130129093256.2d9f17b3@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130129100101.20cf3b20@omega>
Message-ID: <20130129104703.1fc8dc2a@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>

Nicolas Iselin <nicolas.claws at iselin.ch> wrote:

> Am Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:32:56 +0100
> schrieb Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at anup.de>:
> 
> >  I'd like to test sending without Messge-ID to let
> > the MTA create it. 
> 
> If you only want to test whether the MTA works properly, why do you use
> Claws at all? Telnet would be sufficient to do so:

Yes, I know. I don't want to know if the MTA works correctly (it does),
I want to know if threading in CM is still working when I let the MTA
create the Message-ID instead if CM.

> http://www.yuki-onna.co.uk/email/smtp.html
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Mail_Transfer_Protocol

> Nicolas

  Andreas


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 29 10:52:53 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:52:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] Message-ID
In-Reply-To: <20130129104407.37204852@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
References: <20130128201934.2f5f4c94@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130128222727.22e47387@thewildbeast>
	<20130129093256.2d9f17b3@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130129084833.7962a0c1@thewildbeast>
	<20130129104407.37204852@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
Message-ID: <20130129095253.0d72b9c6@thewildbeast>

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:44:07 +0100
Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at anup.de> wrote: 

> I am using version 3.8.1 on an openSUSE 12.2

Then you must be using IMAP. The 'Generate Message-ID' option is not
present on an IMAP account because a Message-ID is obligatory on this
type of account.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jan 29 10:55:22 2013
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:55:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] Message-ID
In-Reply-To: <20130129104703.1fc8dc2a@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
References: <20130128201934.2f5f4c94@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130128222727.22e47387@thewildbeast>
	<20130129093256.2d9f17b3@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130129100101.20cf3b20@omega>
	<20130129104703.1fc8dc2a@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
Message-ID: <20130129095522.71f26f92@thewildbeast>

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:47:03 +0100
Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at anup.de> wrote: 

> I want to know if threading in CM is still working when I let the
> MTA create the Message-ID instead if CM.

It must still work, or else it could only thread messages created by
Claws Mail and no-one would want that.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From ricardo at mones.org  Tue Jan 29 11:02:02 2013
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:02:02 +0100
Subject: [Users] Key bindings
In-Reply-To: <20130128220200.4c4a6087@zoominternet.net>
References: <20130124104013.14385d72@zoominternet.net>
	<20130128220200.4c4a6087@zoominternet.net>
Message-ID: <20130129100202.GB16812@trasgu>

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:02:00PM -0500, Robert wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:40:13 -0500
> Robert <mlists at zoominternet.net> wrote:
> 
> > I am looking to change the arrow keys but I am not finding where these
> > are defined.  I am hoping someone can point be in the right direction.
> > 
> > What I would like to do is change the arrow keys to do the following;
> > 
> > UP-Arrow = Scroll message up
> > DOWN Arrow = Scroll message down
> > LEFT Arrow = Next message
> > RIGHT Arrow = Previous message
> > 
> > I believe right now using the left and right arrows switches between
> > the message list and folders.
> > 
> > Thank you for your help with this.
> 
> No one knows how I can make this happen?

  From claws-mail manpage:

$HOME/.claws-mail/menurc
	Menu shortcut-key configuration

  HTH,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  00:45 < hammar> cool.. have you used rssyl?                          
  00:46 <@Ticho> um, yes                            Seen on #sylpheed

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From anmeyer at anup.de  Tue Jan 29 11:27:09 2013
From: anmeyer at anup.de (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:27:09 +0100
Subject: [Users] Message-ID
In-Reply-To: <20130129095253.0d72b9c6@thewildbeast>
References: <20130128201934.2f5f4c94@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130128222727.22e47387@thewildbeast>
	<20130129093256.2d9f17b3@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130129084833.7962a0c1@thewildbeast>
	<20130129104407.37204852@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130129095253.0d72b9c6@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20130129112709.522334a0@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>

Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:44:07 +0100
> Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at anup.de> wrote: 
> 
> > I am using version 3.8.1 on an openSUSE 12.2
> 
> Then you must be using IMAP. The 'Generate Message-ID' option is not
> present on an IMAP account because a Message-ID is obligatory on this
> type of account.

ah, ok! Yes, I am using IMAP.

> with regards
> 
> Paul

  Andreas


From anmeyer at anup.de  Tue Jan 29 11:31:30 2013
From: anmeyer at anup.de (Andreas Meyer)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:31:30 +0100
Subject: [Users] Message-ID
In-Reply-To: <20130129095522.71f26f92@thewildbeast>
References: <20130128201934.2f5f4c94@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130128222727.22e47387@thewildbeast>
	<20130129093256.2d9f17b3@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130129100101.20cf3b20@omega>
	<20130129104703.1fc8dc2a@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130129095522.71f26f92@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20130129113130.363e53df@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>

Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:47:03 +0100
> Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at anup.de> wrote: 
> 
> > I want to know if threading in CM is still working when I let the
> > MTA create the Message-ID instead if CM.
> 
> It must still work, or else it could only thread messages created by
> Claws Mail and no-one would want that.

ok, but the MTA would create a Message-ID only if CM wouldn't create
one. And as you said in other mail, creating such an ID is obligatory
in case of IMAP. So no chance to let the MTA create one.

> with regards
> 
> Paul

Thank you!

  Andreas


From mlists at zoominternet.net  Wed Jan 30 00:16:30 2013
From: mlists at zoominternet.net (Robert)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:16:30 -0500
Subject: [Users] Key bindings
In-Reply-To: <20130129100202.GB16812@trasgu>
References: <20130124104013.14385d72@zoominternet.net>
	<20130128220200.4c4a6087@zoominternet.net>
	<20130129100202.GB16812@trasgu>
Message-ID: <20130129181630.4306cf9d@zoominternet.net>

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:02:02 +0100
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:02:00PM -0500, Robert wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:40:13 -0500
> > Robert <mlists at zoominternet.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > I am looking to change the arrow keys but I am not finding where these
> > > are defined.  I am hoping someone can point be in the right direction.
> > > 
> > > What I would like to do is change the arrow keys to do the following;
> > > 
> > > UP-Arrow = Scroll message up
> > > DOWN Arrow = Scroll message down
> > > LEFT Arrow = Next message
> > > RIGHT Arrow = Previous message
> > > 
> > > I believe right now using the left and right arrows switches between
> > > the message list and folders.
> > > 
> > > Thank you for your help with this.
> > 
> > No one knows how I can make this happen?
> 
>   From claws-mail manpage:
> 
> $HOME/.claws-mail/menurc
> 	Menu shortcut-key configuration


Please forgive my ignorance, but I am not finding any man pages or the shortcut-key in menurc that you have stated above.
Could you give a bit more information on the topic?  Thanks.


--  
Regards
Robert

Linux
The adventure of a lifetime.

Linux User #296285
Get Counted
http://linuxcounter.net/


From linxt at comcast.net  Tue Jan 29 01:48:29 2013
From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:48:29 -0800
Subject: [Users] Key bindings
In-Reply-To: <20130129181630.4306cf9d@zoominternet.net>
References: <20130124104013.14385d72@zoominternet.net>
	<20130128220200.4c4a6087@zoominternet.net>
	<20130129100202.GB16812@trasgu>
	<20130129181630.4306cf9d@zoominternet.net>
Message-ID: <20130128164829.6bb00313@desktop-1.home>

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:16:30 -0500
Robert <mlists at zoominternet.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:02:02 +0100
> Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:02:00PM -0500, Robert wrote:
> > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:40:13 -0500
> > > Robert <mlists at zoominternet.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I am looking to change the arrow keys but I am not finding
> > > > where these are defined.  I am hoping someone can point be in
> > > > the right direction.
> > > > 
> > > > What I would like to do is change the arrow keys to do the
> > > > following;
> > > > 
> > > > UP-Arrow = Scroll message up
> > > > DOWN Arrow = Scroll message down
> > > > LEFT Arrow = Next message
> > > > RIGHT Arrow = Previous message
> > > > 
> > > > I believe right now using the left and right arrows switches
> > > > between the message list and folders.
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you for your help with this.
> > > 
> > > No one knows how I can make this happen?
> > 
> >   From claws-mail manpage:
> > 
> > $HOME/.claws-mail/menurc
> > 	Menu shortcut-key configuration
> 
> 
> Please forgive my ignorance, but I am not finding any man pages or
> the shortcut-key in menurc that you have stated above. Could you give
> a bit more information on the topic?  Thanks.
> 
> 
> --  
> Regards
> Robert
> 
> Linux
> The adventure of a lifetime.
> 
> Linux User #296285
> Get Counted
> http://linuxcounter.net/
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

The short-cut keys in menurc only re used if the semi-colon at the
beginning of the line is removed and (at least in CM 3.90) it is paired
with the <alt> key as shown below.

; (gtk_accel_path "<Actions>/Menu/View/Encoding/Japanese/Shift_JIS" "")
; (gtk_accel_path "<Actions>/Menu/View/Goto/PrevHistory" "<Alt>Left")
; (gtk_accel_path "<Actions>/Menu/View/ShowHide/Toolbar/IconOnly" "")

The above appears around line 120 in the menurc file.  Otherwise I
believe the key bindings are hard-coded into the main CM file.

Tom

-- 
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy
enough people to make it worth the effort.
    Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
--
Tom Taylor - retired penguin
AMD Phenom II x4 955 -- 4GB RAM -- 2x1.5TB sata2
openSUSE 12.2x86_64    openSUSE 12.3-ß1_x86_64
KDE 4.7.2, FF 9.0      KDE 4.9.1, FF 17.0
claws-mail 3.9.0
registered linux user 263467
linxt-At-comcast-DoT-net


From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Wed Jan 30 05:08:36 2013
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:08:36 -0500
Subject: [Users] How to transfer templates?
In-Reply-To: <20130129090936.4a584d6a@thewildbeast>
References: <20130128221230.5de098f6@mydesk>
	<20130129090936.4a584d6a@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20130129230836.7623152d@mydesk>

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:09:36 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:12:30 -0500
> Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote: 
> 
> > Out of caution, I really don't want to wholesale copy everything
> > from backup to new. Instead, I want to do it with surgical
> > precision. So does anyone know what else I have to copy in order to
> > have my per-folder templates in the new Claws-Mail?
> 
> From `man claws-mail`:
> 
> $HOME/.claws-mail/folderitemrc
> 	All folders' attributes

Yeah, I know that. I said that in the original email. My question is,
which other stuff do I need to copy into the destination? 

> 
> BTW, there's really no need for such caution.

:-) I'm a cautious kinda guy!

So anyway, I still need to know what info to transfer over all
necessary to display the per-folder templates, so if you know, please
let me know. I already copies the entries that look like:

[#imap/localIMAP/aaa/aaaa_templates/28]

and all the stuff subservient to them, and the templates still didn't
show up when I made new emails.

Thanks,

SteveT



From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Wed Jan 30 08:24:21 2013
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 02:24:21 -0500
Subject: [Users] How to transfer templates?
In-Reply-To: <20130129230836.7623152d@mydesk>
References: <20130128221230.5de098f6@mydesk>
	<20130129090936.4a584d6a@thewildbeast>
	<20130129230836.7623152d@mydesk>
Message-ID: <20130130022421.2a9bca57@mydesk>

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:08:36 -0500
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

> 
> So anyway, I still need to know what info to transfer over all
> necessary to display the per-folder templates, so if you know, please
> let me know. I already copies the entries that look like:
> 
> [#imap/localIMAP/aaa/aaaa_templates/28]
> 
> and all the stuff subservient to them, and the templates still didn't
> show up when I made new emails.

PS; I wrote the preceding for everyone, not just Paul.

SteveT



From ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Jan 30 11:25:59 2013
From: ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk (Kevin Chadwick)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:25:59 +0000
Subject: [Users] How to transfer templates?
In-Reply-To: <20130128221230.5de098f6@mydesk>
References: <20130128221230.5de098f6@mydesk>
Message-ID: <569529.18357.bm@smtp125.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

> So
> does anyone know what else I have to copy in order to have my
> per-folder templates in the new Claws-Mail?

I'm not sure this is what you want but compose_body_format in
accountrc may be what you are looking for?

-- 
_______________________________________________________________________

'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work
together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a
universal interface'

(Doug McIlroy)
_______________________________________________________________________


From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Wed Jan 30 15:23:29 2013
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 09:23:29 -0500
Subject: [Users] How to transfer templates?
In-Reply-To: <569529.18357.bm@smtp125.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <20130128221230.5de098f6@mydesk>
	<569529.18357.bm@smtp125.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20130130092329.2b6f0d3c@mydesk>

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:25:59 +0000
Kevin Chadwick <ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> > So
> > does anyone know what else I have to copy in order to have my
> > per-folder templates in the new Claws-Mail?
> 
> I'm not sure this is what you want but compose_body_format in
> accountrc may be what you are looking for?
> 


Thanks Kevin,

I'll research compose_body_format as soon as I get home.

Thanks

SteveT


From rwmaillists at googlemail.com  Thu Jan 31 00:31:12 2013
From: rwmaillists at googlemail.com (RW)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 23:31:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] Message-ID
References: <20130128201934.2f5f4c94@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130128222727.22e47387@thewildbeast>
	<20130129093256.2d9f17b3@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130129094612.4681785f@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20130130233112.751e8f02@gumby.homeunix.com>

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:46:12 +0000
Paul wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:32:56 +0100
> Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at anup.de> wrote: 
> 
> > Is the Message-ID important for the threading and
> > will it work still when the MTA creates one and not CM?
> 
> Yes and yes.

If the MTA creates the Message-Id then local copies of sent mail wont
have the header and so wont thread correctly. You can work around this
by BCCing yourself and using that copy instead.



From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Thu Jan 31 01:51:58 2013
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:51:58 -0500
Subject: [Users] Message-ID
In-Reply-To: <20130129113130.363e53df@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
References: <20130128201934.2f5f4c94@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130128222727.22e47387@thewildbeast>
	<20130129093256.2d9f17b3@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130129100101.20cf3b20@omega>
	<20130129104703.1fc8dc2a@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130129095522.71f26f92@thewildbeast>
	<20130129113130.363e53df@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
Message-ID: <20130130195158.000009cf.Richard.Pieri@gmail.com>

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:31:30 +0100
Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at anup.de> wrote:

> ok, but the MTA would create a Message-ID only if CM wouldn't create
> one. And as you said in other mail, creating such an ID is obligatory
> in case of IMAP. So no chance to let the MTA create one.

Don't count on it. There are plenty of reasons (some good, some bad) for
a MTA to rewrite existing Message-ID fields, such as a private network
using an someone else's domain name. Regardless of the validity of that
practice (it's ill advised but not prohibited), the "illegal" domain
name must not be exposed to the public network. This entails stripping
internal Received headers and rewriting everything else to masquerade
the domain parts.

Practices like these are one of the reasons why mail handling
unofficially adopted Usenet style References headers. References
headers were formally rolled into mail handling specs with RFC 2822. I
should hope that CM prefers to use References over In-Reply-To and
Message-ID.

-- 
Rich P.


From rsv869 at roadrunner.com  Thu Jan 31 02:05:06 2013
From: rsv869 at roadrunner.com (RSV-RR)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:05:06 -0500
Subject: [Users] build Claws or accept the Ubuntu version?
Message-ID: <20130130200506.6878f9ef@rsv-linux>

Hello group

I learned there's an improved version of the address book available in
Claws if you build the package (I think you also have to build the
address book, too).  

Not too worried about the process but I wonder if this improvement
will be going into an Ubuntu release next time around?  Have to ask
"why go looking for trouble?", if you know what I mean, if it's going
to be a part of future distro?

Also, if I build it and improvements / fixes do become available I
think I'm stuck with a manual fix process.  That is, I'm pretty certain
there's no linkage between a compiled packages and general release
updates from Ubuntu. 

Anyway, thoughts welcome.

RV


From rwmaillists at googlemail.com  Thu Jan 31 03:42:16 2013
From: rwmaillists at googlemail.com (RW)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 02:42:16 +0000
Subject: [Users] Message-ID
References: <20130128201934.2f5f4c94@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130128222727.22e47387@thewildbeast>
	<20130129093256.2d9f17b3@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130129100101.20cf3b20@omega>
	<20130129104703.1fc8dc2a@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130129095522.71f26f92@thewildbeast>
	<20130129113130.363e53df@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130130195158.000009cf.Richard.Pieri@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20130131024216.7db5d6dd@gumby.homeunix.com>

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:51:58 -0500
Rich Pieri wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:31:30 +0100
> Andreas Meyer <anmeyer at anup.de> wrote:
> 
> > ok, but the MTA would create a Message-ID only if CM wouldn't create
> > one. And as you said in other mail, creating such an ID is
> > obligatory in case of IMAP. So no chance to let the MTA create one.
> 
> Don't count on it. There are plenty of reasons (some good, some bad)
> for a MTA to rewrite existing Message-ID fields, such as a private
> network using an someone else's domain name. Regardless of the
> validity of that practice (it's ill advised but not prohibited), the
> "illegal" domain name must not be exposed to the public network. This
> entails stripping internal Received headers and rewriting everything
> else to masquerade the domain parts.
> 
> Practices like these are one of the reasons why mail handling
> unofficially adopted Usenet style References headers. References
> headers were formally rolled into mail handling specs with RFC 2822. I
> should hope that CM prefers to use References over In-Reply-To and
> Message-ID.

Reference headers make it possible to keep a thread together when
there are missing messages, but they don't avoid the need for
Message-IDs. 




From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Thu Jan 31 16:45:31 2013
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:45:31 -0500
Subject: [Users] Message-ID
In-Reply-To: <20130131024216.7db5d6dd@gumby.homeunix.com>
References: <20130128201934.2f5f4c94@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130128222727.22e47387@thewildbeast>
	<20130129093256.2d9f17b3@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130129100101.20cf3b20@omega>
	<20130129104703.1fc8dc2a@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130129095522.71f26f92@thewildbeast>
	<20130129113130.363e53df@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130130195158.000009cf.Richard.Pieri@gmail.com>
	<20130131024216.7db5d6dd@gumby.homeunix.com>
Message-ID: <20130131104531.000021c1.Richard.Pieri@gmail.com>

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 02:42:16 +0000
RW <rwmaillists at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Reference headers make it possible to keep a thread together when
> there are missing messages, but they don't avoid the need for
> Message-IDs. 

That's a disingenuous statement. Message-IDs are not necessary for
threading. They're useful, certainly, but there are ways to maintain
thread coherency in the face of Message-ID rewrites.

-- 
Rich P.


From ciamarie at my180.net  Thu Jan 31 17:40:57 2013
From: ciamarie at my180.net (Cia Watson)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:40:57 -0800
Subject: [Users] build Claws or accept the Ubuntu version?
In-Reply-To: <20130130200506.6878f9ef@rsv-linux>
References: <20130130200506.6878f9ef@rsv-linux>
Message-ID: <20130131084057.5a115378@my180.net>

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:05:06 -0500
RSV-RR <rsv869 at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> Hello group
> 
> I learned there's an improved version of the address book available in
> Claws if you build the package (I think you also have to build the
> address book, too).  
> 
> Not too worried about the process but I wonder if this improvement
> will be going into an Ubuntu release next time around?  Have to ask
> "why go looking for trouble?", if you know what I mean, if it's going
> to be a part of future distro?
> 
There is a stand-alone address book you can build, which is what I did on
Debian wheezy. After you launch it for the first time it will import your
address book information from Claws. I believe if there are updates to the
package you would have to re-build or apply them, I'm not sure there have
been any updates. 

It will require you to install an LDAP server and all the packages that go
with that, even if you don't use LDAP. After having used it a bit, I now
rarely use it.

However, you don't need to build Claws mail itself in order to use the
standalone address book. I use the Claws that is in the Debian repos,
currently v3.8.1 for Wheezy. 

Hope that helps,

Cia W.
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From barry at python.org  Thu Jan 31 22:33:56 2013
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:33:56 -0500
Subject: [Users] build Claws or accept the Ubuntu version?
References: <20130130200506.6878f9ef@rsv-linux>
Message-ID: <20130131163356.156429b2@anarchist.wooz.org>

On Jan 30, 2013, at 08:05 PM, RSV-RR wrote:

>Not too worried about the process but I wonder if this improvement
>will be going into an Ubuntu release next time around?

As much as possible, I'd like the Ubuntu version to be inherited from Debian.
Currently in Raring, we're not carrying any Ubuntu deltas for claws-mail nor
claws-mail-extra-plugins.  We're also only copying sid's version currently
(3.8.1-2) because of build conflicts in c-m-e-p for 3.9.0.

This has been discussed, but since I don't personally have much time to fix
the problems and 3.8.1 is good enough for me for right now, I'm being lazy and
will wait until Debian solves the problem after Wheezy's release. ;)

All that to say that any changes in the Claws packages for Ubuntu should
definitely go through Debian first.  (Hi Ricardo! :)

Cheers,
-Barry
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From rwmaillists at googlemail.com  Thu Jan 31 23:15:43 2013
From: rwmaillists at googlemail.com (RW)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:15:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] Message-ID
References: <20130128201934.2f5f4c94@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130128222727.22e47387@thewildbeast>
	<20130129093256.2d9f17b3@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130129100101.20cf3b20@omega>
	<20130129104703.1fc8dc2a@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130129095522.71f26f92@thewildbeast>
	<20130129113130.363e53df@itxnew.bitcorner.intern>
	<20130130195158.000009cf.Richard.Pieri@gmail.com>
	<20130131024216.7db5d6dd@gumby.homeunix.com>
	<20130131104531.000021c1.Richard.Pieri@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20130131221543.0b61a7ee@gumby.homeunix.com>

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:45:31 -0500
Rich Pieri wrote:

> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 02:42:16 +0000
> RW <rwmaillists at googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Reference headers make it possible to keep a thread together when
> > there are missing messages, but they don't avoid the need for
> > Message-IDs. 
> 
> That's a disingenuous statement. 

Whether it's right or wrong, it's certainly not disingenuous.


> Message-IDs are not necessary for
> threading. They're useful, certainly, but there are ways to maintain
> thread coherency in the face of Message-ID rewrites.

It depends on where the rewrite occurs, there isn't any reference
header in the first mail in a thread. Aside from threading by subject
the only standard way to connect that to rest of the thread is by its
Message-ID.




   



From jerry at seibercom.net  Thu Jan 31 23:31:17 2013
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:31:17 -0500
Subject: [Users] Saving sent mail in SENT folder on IMAP Server
Message-ID: <20130131173117.6fd01790@scorpio>

I recently got appointed to a state committee. The law requires that
all email be kept indefinitely in the event that it was to ever be
subpoenaed. I was told all sent mail was to be stored in the mail
servers SENT folder. I know of a program, Becky Internet Mail that can
do this, but that is a Windows application. How can I accomplish this
using claws-mail? If it is not possible, I will be forced to use the
web interface to send mail from my committee's email account.

By the way, this would only effect that one account. I want my other
email accounts to save mail on my PC exactly as it has been doing.

-- 
Jerry ♔

Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored.
Please do not ignore the Reply-To header.
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From mir at miras.org  Thu Jan 31 23:57:01 2013
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:57:01 +0100
Subject: [Users] Saving sent mail in SENT folder on IMAP Server
In-Reply-To: <20130131173117.6fd01790@scorpio>
References: <20130131173117.6fd01790@scorpio>
Message-ID: <20130131235701.350cde06@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:31:17 -0500
Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:

> I recently got appointed to a state committee. The law requires that
> all email be kept indefinitely in the event that it was to ever be
> subpoenaed. I was told all sent mail was to be stored in the mail
> servers SENT folder. I know of a program, Becky Internet Mail that can
> do this, but that is a Windows application. How can I accomplish this
> using claws-mail? If it is not possible, I will be forced to use the
> web interface to send mail from my committee's email account.
> 
> By the way, this would only effect that one account. I want my other
> email accounts to save mail on my PC exactly as it has been doing.
> 
CM will, provided it is an IMAP account, store sent mails in the sent
folder on the server if the server has a special folder marked for that
purpose. Otherwise open preferences->advanced, put a check mark in the
line stating: put sent messages in and use the browse option to point
to a folder on the IMAP server. But before doing all this why not try
to send a test email to yourself and see where the sent email ends up?

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

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