From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 1 13:05:46 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 13:05:46 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2552] in automatic checking,
enable the use of different time intervals
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Yed changed:
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Patch version 4
Sorry for the wait, here the patch.
It is indeed simpler than the previous ones.
By the way, somebody can probably find a better label in the account settings.
Regards,
Yed.
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From jaws3333 at gmail.com Mon Sep 3 19:56:03 2012
From: jaws3333 at gmail.com (Jeb Jaws)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 12:56:03 -0500
Subject: [Users] error occurred on SMTP session; can't send mail
Message-ID:
Recently installed Claws-mail version 3.8.0 to get away from Kmail.
Claws-mail receives mail fine, through pop3, but when I try to send I get
this error message in the log:
Connecting to SMTP server: smtp.mail.wowway.com ...
[08:59:38] SMTP< 220 smtp.mail.wowway.com ESMTP ecelerity 2.2.2.40
r(29895/29896) Sun, 02 Sep 2012 09:59:38 -0400
[08:59:38] ESMTP> EHLO roscoe-desktop
[08:59:38] ESMTP< 502
** error occurred on SMTP session
*** Error occurred while sending the message:
502
I've use just about every different setting possible in configuring the
account, particularly the authenticate with pop3 and not using SSL which my
ISP doesn't allow. I've duplicated Kmail's settings which works fine both
sending and receiving. I have not changed any setting in the Compose dialog.
I've tried different ports that were recommended in my searches and 2
different distros, both KDE; PClinuxOS KDE 4.6 and the other Mint 13 KDE
4.8, but no luck. I've also install Claws-mail on Windows 7 with the same
results posted above.
Any help much appreciated. I'm willing to work through this problem with
someones help.
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From edwardp at mcom.com Mon Sep 3 20:21:24 2012
From: edwardp at mcom.com (edwardp at mcom.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 14:21:24 -0400
Subject: [Users] error occurred on SMTP session; can't send mail
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On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 12:56:03 -0500
Jeb Jaws wrote:
> Recently installed Claws-mail version 3.8.0 to get away from Kmail.
> Claws-mail receives mail fine, through pop3, but when I try to send I
> get this error message in the log:
>
> Connecting to SMTP server: smtp.mail.wowway.com ...
> [08:59:38] SMTP< 220 smtp.mail.wowway.com ESMTP ecelerity 2.2.2.40
> r(29895/29896) Sun, 02 Sep 2012 09:59:38 -0400
> [08:59:38] ESMTP> EHLO roscoe-desktop
> [08:59:38] ESMTP< 502
> ** error occurred on SMTP session
> *** Error occurred while sending the message:
> 502
A quick search indicated a 502 error is "Command not implemented". My
first guess is that the SMTP server might not be properly configured.
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From jaws3333 at gmail.com Mon Sep 3 22:06:06 2012
From: jaws3333 at gmail.com (Jeb Jaws)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 15:06:06 -0500
Subject: [Users] error occurred on SMTP session; can't send mail
Message-ID:
Thanks for messaging back Edward.
Doing a search again for smtp server settings and inputting port 587 in the
advanced section of account preferences AND this time leaving it
check-marked, I can now send outgoing mail. I believe I input this port
number before but it seems I didn't leave it checked.
Seems strange that Kmail could use the default port 25 without problems yet
Claws-mail could not. Anyway, I'm a happy camper.
Issue is solved.
Thanks again.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 4 10:12:14 2012
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Subject: [Users] [Bug 2729] New: crash when searching for messages (/)
Message-ID:
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Summary: crash when searching for messages (/)
Product: Claws Mail
Version: 3.8.1
Platform: PC
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: critical
Priority: P3
Component: UI/Folder List
AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
ReportedBy: michelbriand at free.fr
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Backtrace log
Hello,
(I've tried the claws-mail-dbg package on Debian, but the executable in here
does not work);
Claws-mail search feature has worked for ages. But today I've found a severe
bug :) !
Claws-mail crashes when I search for messages with the recursive mode and the
expression : 'al 300 & B kwon'. I've tried a dozen times and it crashes every
time.
My locale is 'fr_FR at euro' (iso-8859-15). I don't want to change this.
Here is the backtrace attached.
Cheers,
Michel
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 4 10:58:43 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 10:58:43 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2730] New: [3.8.1][Win7] alt. trash folder: empty
trash on exit does not happen
Message-ID:
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Summary: [3.8.1][Win7] alt. trash folder: empty trash on exit
does not happen
Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
Version: CVS
Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: default
AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
ReportedBy: h.mth at web.de
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empty trash on exit
System: Windows 7 Professional
Claws-Mail Version: 3.8.1
- from http://claws-mail.org/win32/gpg4win-light-2.1.1-svn1696-colin.exe
Going to attach two images with configuration setup.
IIRC, Claws-Mail 3.7.x on Windows XP does just fine.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 4 10:59:21 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 10:59:21 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2730] [3.8.1][Win7] alt. trash folder: empty trash on
exit does not happen
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2730
--- Comment #1 from Hanno Meyer-Thurow 2012-09-04 10:59:21 ---
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folder conf
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 4 11:19:51 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 11:19:51 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2729] crash when searching for messages (/)
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--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones 2012-09-04 11:19:51 ---
This is not related to search, but to a strange or malformed attachment in a
message ('/home/michel/Mail/Projets & Dev/PG/37').
You may try to move that file out of that folder (e.g.: to your home folder),
update summary view, and search again. That should work, unless you have more
weird messages like that one of course.
BTW, Debian -dbg packages are not meant to be run, they only contain symbols
for the debugger to be loaded when the executable is run, and this is already
done automatically by Debian's gdb, so your backtrace is inadvertently correct
;)
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 4 11:23:48 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 11:23:48 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2729] crash when searching for messages (/)
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--- Comment #2 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-04 11:23:48 ---
And the attachment parsing crash is triggered by the body search.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 4 11:30:51 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 11:30:51 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2729] crash when searching for messages (/)
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2729
Colin Leroy changed:
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Resolution| |DUPLICATE
--- Comment #3 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-04 11:30:51 ---
It looks a lot like bug #2697. Using the content-disposition header found in
the backtrace's #1 step
("filename*0*=ISO-8859-1''%56%65%72%73%69%6F%6E%20%73%75%63%63%69%6E%63%74;
filename*1*=%65%20%64%75%20%6C%69%76%72%65%20%27%27%4E%6F%75%73%20%6F%6E;
filename*2*=%20%70%65%75%74%20%21%27%27%20%20%64%65"), Claws crashes without
bug #2697's fix, doesn't crash with.
*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 2697 ***
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 4 11:30:52 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 11:30:52 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2697] [PATCH] Fix segfault in parse_parameters()
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--- Comment #3 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-04 11:30:51 ---
*** Bug 2729 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 4 11:54:38 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 11:54:38 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2729] crash when searching for messages (/)
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--- Comment #4 from michelbriand 2012-09-04 11:54:37 ---
Thank you, the move did the trick.
And yes, the -dbg thing is simpler than expected :).
Anyway I'll wait to see the complete resolution.
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From freebsd at grem.de Tue Sep 4 14:29:34 2012
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 14:29:34 +0200
Subject: [Users] Calendar plugin queues messages
Message-ID: <20120904142934.487a482e@bsd64.grem.de>
I noticed lately that when accepting calendar invitations, the
generated answer mails are not sent, but written to the Queue folder
instead.
This used to work, is there any specific setting to tweak or anything
else I missed? (The mails look ok, and when manually sending them are
accepted by the receiving party)
Thanks,
Michael
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From imammedo at redhat.com Tue Sep 4 16:50:55 2012
From: imammedo at redhat.com (Igor Mammedov)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:50:55 +0200
Subject: [Users] problem with GoTo -> Next Unread Message
Message-ID: <20120904165055.1b14378c@nial.usersys.redhat.com>
When in Preferences->Display->Summaries option 'Show "no unread (or new)
message" dialog' is set to "Assume 'No'", action "GoTo -> Next Unread Message"
works only within currently selected folder. If 'Show "no unread (or new)
message" dialog' is set to "Assume 'Yes'", then action "GoTo -> Next Unread
Message" works across all folders.
So question is: is "GoTo -> Next Unread Message" supposed to work differently
depending on 'Show "no unread (or new) message" dialog' value? It looks like a
bug for me.
From ricardo at mones.org Tue Sep 4 21:21:37 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 21:21:37 +0200
Subject: [Users] problem with GoTo -> Next Unread Message
In-Reply-To: <20120904165055.1b14378c@nial.usersys.redhat.com>
References: <20120904165055.1b14378c@nial.usersys.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20120904212137.0a3563a7@sumiciu>
Hi Igor,
On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:50:55 +0200
Igor Mammedov wrote:
> When in Preferences->Display->Summaries option 'Show "no unread (or
> new) message" dialog' is set to "Assume 'No'", action "GoTo -> Next
> Unread Message" works only within currently selected folder. If 'Show
> "no unread (or new) message" dialog' is set to "Assume 'Yes'", then
> action "GoTo -> Next Unread Message" works across all folders.
>
> So question is: is "GoTo -> Next Unread Message" supposed to work
> differently depending on 'Show "no unread (or new) message" dialog'
> value? It looks like a bug for me.
It's a feature: when no assumption is made and "Always" is selected
behaviour is to ask whether you want to go to next folder with unread
messages. If you answer no, it stays in current folder, if you answer
yes, it goes across folders until a unread message is found.
The assumptions are just to set one of both behaviours by default.
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From imammedo at redhat.com Tue Sep 4 22:09:34 2012
From: imammedo at redhat.com (Igor Mammedov)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 22:09:34 +0200
Subject: [Users] problem with GoTo -> Next Unread Message
In-Reply-To: <20120904212137.0a3563a7@sumiciu>
References: <20120904165055.1b14378c@nial.usersys.redhat.com>
<20120904212137.0a3563a7@sumiciu>
Message-ID: <20120904220934.608fb08b@thinkpad.mammed.net>
On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 21:21:37 +0200
Ricardo Mones wrote:
>
> Hi Igor,
>
> On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:50:55 +0200
> Igor Mammedov wrote:
>
> > When in Preferences->Display->Summaries option 'Show "no unread (or
> > new) message" dialog' is set to "Assume 'No'", action "GoTo -> Next
> > Unread Message" works only within currently selected folder. If 'Show
> > "no unread (or new) message" dialog' is set to "Assume 'Yes'", then
> > action "GoTo -> Next Unread Message" works across all folders.
> >
> > So question is: is "GoTo -> Next Unread Message" supposed to work
> > differently depending on 'Show "no unread (or new) message" dialog'
> > value? It looks like a bug for me.
>
> It's a feature: when no assumption is made and "Always" is selected
> behaviour is to ask whether you want to go to next folder with unread
> messages. If you answer no, it stays in current folder, if you answer
> yes, it goes across folders until a unread message is found.
> The assumptions are just to set one of both behaviours by default.
Current naming doesn't give a clue about enabling cross-folder
"goto next/prev unread (or new) message".
Perhaps option name should reflect what you just said?
>
> regards,
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From slitt at troubleshooters.com Tue Sep 4 22:26:26 2012
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:26:26 -0400
Subject: [Users] Default state of Move dialog
Message-ID: <20120904162626.6c9faa74@mydesk>
Hi all,
Right now, the Move dialog defaults to having all nodes open all the
way down the tree. This is slow and confusing, and I see absolutely no
benefit to displaying the full tree.
I'd like to suggest that the Move dialog (and Copy dialog also) default
to all nodes closed, so one can move up and down the top of the
hierarchy and drill down from there. Appropriate hotkeys would be a big
help. Right now <-> collapses a node, but I haven't found hotkeys for
expanding a node by one level, nor collapsing the whole outline nor
expanding the whole outline.
Thanks
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From marini.maurizio at gmail.com Tue Sep 4 23:12:37 2012
From: marini.maurizio at gmail.com (Maurizio Marini)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 23:12:37 +0200
Subject: [Users] possible bug w/ f17: body area read-only after clicking
identities picking list
Message-ID:
Hello
This is Fedora 17 x86_64, claws-mail 3.8.1.
As discussed on fedora users list, when composing a new message, then
clicking on the combo-box of identities to change identity, body area
becames read-only.
It' enough to click on some menu item to reset body area to be writable
again
I would discuss with developers the bug before fileing it into bugzilla, if
agree
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From berndth at gmx.de Tue Sep 4 23:39:02 2012
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 23:39:02 +0200
Subject: [Users] Default state of Move dialog
In-Reply-To: <20120904162626.6c9faa74@mydesk>
References: <20120904162626.6c9faa74@mydesk>
Message-ID: <20120904233902.66e0e5fb@wodan>
On Di, 04.09.2012 16:26, Steve Litt wrote:
>Right now, the Move dialog defaults to having all nodes open all the
>way down the tree. This is slow and confusing, and I see absolutely no
>benefit to displaying the full tree.
It's very useful if you know the folder name youre looking for. Then
you can just start typing, possibly using arrow-down to jump to the
next match.
Holger
From freebsd at grem.de Wed Sep 5 00:05:36 2012
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 00:05:36 +0200
Subject: [Users] Default state of Move dialog
In-Reply-To: <20120904233902.66e0e5fb@wodan>
References: <20120904162626.6c9faa74@mydesk>
<20120904233902.66e0e5fb@wodan>
Message-ID: <20120905000536.02644c45@bsd64.grem.de>
On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 23:39:02 +0200
Holger Berndt wrote:
> On Di, 04.09.2012 16:26, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> >Right now, the Move dialog defaults to having all nodes open all the
> >way down the tree. This is slow and confusing, and I see absolutely
> >no benefit to displaying the full tree.
>
> It's very useful if you know the folder name youre looking for. Then
> you can just start typing, possibly using arrow-down to jump to the
> next match.
I have to agree with Holger on this one - it's clearly a matter of
taste, personally I don't like collapsed tree nodes that force me to
navigate and unfold a lot.
>
> Holger
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From ricardo at mones.org Wed Sep 5 00:42:01 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 00:42:01 +0200
Subject: [Users] problem with GoTo -> Next Unread Message
In-Reply-To: <20120904220934.608fb08b@thinkpad.mammed.net>
References: <20120904165055.1b14378c@nial.usersys.redhat.com>
<20120904212137.0a3563a7@sumiciu>
<20120904220934.608fb08b@thinkpad.mammed.net>
Message-ID: <20120905004201.7213d213@sumiciu>
On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 22:09:34 +0200
Igor Mammedov wrote:
> Ricardo Mones wrote:
> > Igor Mammedov wrote:
> >
> > > When in Preferences->Display->Summaries option 'Show "no unread
> > > (or new) message" dialog' is set to "Assume 'No'", action "GoTo
> > > -> Next Unread Message" works only within currently selected
> > > folder. If 'Show "no unread (or new) message" dialog' is set to
> > > "Assume 'Yes'", then action "GoTo -> Next Unread Message" works
> > > across all folders.
> > >
> > > So question is: is "GoTo -> Next Unread Message" supposed to work
> > > differently depending on 'Show "no unread (or new) message"
> > > dialog' value? It looks like a bug for me.
> >
> > It's a feature: when no assumption is made and "Always" is
> > selected behaviour is to ask whether you want to go to next folder
> > with unread messages. If you answer no, it stays in current folder,
> > if you answer yes, it goes across folders until a unread message is
> > found. The assumptions are just to set one of both behaviours by
> > default.
>
> Current naming doesn't give a clue about enabling cross-folder
> "goto next/prev unread (or new) message".
> Perhaps option name should reflect what you just said?
If you mean the option in Preferences/Display/Summaries, yep.
Maybe some tooltip could be added or another label below with a brief
explanation, hopefully shorter than mine.
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From slitt at troubleshooters.com Wed Sep 5 00:48:56 2012
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 18:48:56 -0400
Subject: [Users] Default state of Move dialog
In-Reply-To: <20120904233902.66e0e5fb@wodan>
References: <20120904162626.6c9faa74@mydesk>
<20120904233902.66e0e5fb@wodan>
Message-ID: <20120904184856.4e793402@mydesk>
On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 23:39:02 +0200, Holger Berndt said:
> On Di, 04.09.2012 16:26, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> >Right now, the Move dialog defaults to having all nodes open all the
> >way down the tree. This is slow and confusing, and I see absolutely
> >no benefit to displaying the full tree.
>
> It's very useful if you know the folder name youre looking for. Then
> you can just start typing, possibly using arrow-down to jump to the
> next match.
>
> Holger
Thanks Holger,
That's a good tip and I'll use it. I'd still like a way of having the
whole thing come up collapsed so I could drill down without trying to
remember the folder name -- sometimes you remember where it is in the
hierarchy rather than its exact name. I was about to say there's no
reason your trick wouldn't work on a collapsed list, but then I
manually collapsed a list and it wouldn't read nodes in a collapsed
branch.
At this point I'd settle for a collapse branch (which we already have
in the minus sign), a completely expand branch, and a expand next level
in branch. That would allow both methods of looking for a folder, and
would change nothing for those enjoying the current default of opening
everything.
Thanks
SteveT
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 5 10:02:54 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 09:02:54 +0100
Subject: [Users] possible bug w/ f17: body area read-only after clicking
identities picking list
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120905090254.4fcc11d0@thewildbeast>
On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 23:12:37 +0200
Maurizio Marini wrote:
> This is Fedora 17 x86_64, claws-mail 3.8.1.
> As discussed on fedora users list, when composing a new message,
> then clicking on the combo-box of identities to change identity,
> body area becames read-only.
> It' enough to click on some menu item to reset body area to be
> writable again
> I would discuss with developers the bug before fileing it into
> bugzilla, if agree
It's not and never has been the case here. Maybe you can explain
further or give a URL for the previous discussion?
with regards
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 5 10:12:42 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 10:12:42 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2729] crash when searching for messages (/)
In-Reply-To:
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--- Comment #5 from Ricardo Mones 2012-09-05 10:12:41 ---
The fix is already in CVS, so if you're using Debian unstable on i386 or amd64
architectures you can install CVS packages from http://hydra.debian.net
These should work without the need of moving the file out of your mail folder.
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From rcook at pcug.org.au Wed Sep 5 10:18:52 2012
From: rcook at pcug.org.au (Owen)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 18:18:52 +1000
Subject: [Users] possible bug w/ f17: body area read-only after clicking
identities picking list
In-Reply-To: <20120905090254.4fcc11d0@thewildbeast>
References:
<20120905090254.4fcc11d0@thewildbeast>
Message-ID:
> On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 23:12:37 +0200
> Maurizio Marini wrote:
>
>> This is Fedora 17 x86_64, claws-mail 3.8.1.
>> As discussed on fedora users list, when composing a new message,
>> then clicking on the combo-box of identities to change identity,
>> body area becames read-only.
>> It' enough to click on some menu item to reset body area to be
>> writable again
>> I would discuss with developers the bug before fileing it into
>> bugzilla, if agree
>
> It's not and never has been the case here. Maybe you can explain
> further or give a URL for the previous discussion?
Sorry I missed the original.
With Fedora 17, I get a problem that goes like this;
Compose a new message
make a To address
change the next address to Cc
Now I am unable to input anything into the Cc line
Right click on the "address area"
select input methods, and change to something else, normally "none" in
my case.
and all is well again.
I get a similar problem with the gimp, so maybe it is a fedora build
of gtk that is upsetting the apple cart
Google "claws mail input method" suggests I may not be alone with this.
Anyway, I am not too concerned, I don't have the problem with any
other distro.
Just another mystery
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 5 10:29:47 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 09:29:47 +0100
Subject: [Users] possible bug w/ f17: body area read-only after clicking
identities picking list
In-Reply-To:
References:
<20120905090254.4fcc11d0@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20120905092947.1c8af8ae@thewildbeast>
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 18:18:52 +1000
"Owen" wrote:
> With Fedora 17, I get a problem that goes like this;
>
> Compose a new message
> make a To address
> change the next address to Cc
>
> Now I am unable to input anything into the Cc line
Still cannot reproduce it here. I don't use fedora, though.
Are you sure that the focus is actually in address area and not on
the selector arrow? You obviously can't type on a selector arrow,
and this is only time I cannot type.
> Right click on the "address area"
>
> select input methods, and change to something else, normally "none"
> in my case.
>
> and all is well again.
Maybe you just need to TAB into the address area?
> Google "claws mail input method" suggests I may not be alone with
> this.
I did this and got 'No results found for "claws mail input method".',
and saw nothing else related in the 'Results for claws mail input
method (without quotes):'
with regards
Paul
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 5 10:32:27 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 09:32:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] problem with GoTo -> Next Unread Message
In-Reply-To: <20120905004201.7213d213@sumiciu>
References: <20120904165055.1b14378c@nial.usersys.redhat.com>
<20120904212137.0a3563a7@sumiciu>
<20120904220934.608fb08b@thinkpad.mammed.net>
<20120905004201.7213d213@sumiciu>
Message-ID: <20120905093227.0ff1ec5c@thewildbeast>
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 00:42:01 +0200
Ricardo Mones wrote:
> If you mean the option in Preferences/Display/Summaries, yep.
> Maybe some tooltip could be added or another label below with a
> brief explanation, hopefully shorter than mine.
OTOH, a little bit of trying out the different possible settings is
usually enough to show how it works. A tooltip here and suddenly, I
fear, we need a flood of tooltips about everything. We have the FAQ
for various things like this, isn't that sufficient?
with regards
Paul
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 5 10:46:55 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 10:46:55 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2547] Won't Save Password
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120905084655.92CA9853F0@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2547
--- Comment #1 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-05 10:46:55 ---
Try to look in Configuration for receiving ?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 5 11:15:03 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 11:15:03 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2552] in automatic checking,
enable the use of different time intervals
In-Reply-To:
References:
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2552
--- Comment #19 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-05 11:15:02 ---
Hi,
Seems good! Can you just reverse the "if (0 != account->autocheck_counter)", so
that they read in the logical way instead of the "I fear I'll assign instead of
compare" way? Coding style :)
Also, I'm not sure how to label the pref, "Check for new mail every X times
global timer" seems not very clear but I have no better idea... Someone ?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 5 11:42:49 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 11:42:49 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2552] in automatic checking,
enable the use of different time intervals
In-Reply-To:
References:
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2552
--- Comment #20 from Brian Morrison 2012-09-05 11:42:49 ---
> Also, I'm not sure how to label the pref, "Check for new mail every X times
> global timer" seems not very clear but I have no better idea... Someone ?
How about:
Reduce mail check frequency by factor of x
or
Increase mail check interval by factor of x
??
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From marini.maurizio at gmail.com Wed Sep 5 12:56:40 2012
From: marini.maurizio at gmail.com (Maurizio Marini)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 12:56:40 +0200
Subject: [Users] possible bug w/ f17: body area read-only after clicking
identities picking list
In-Reply-To:
References:
<20120905090254.4fcc11d0@thewildbeast>
Message-ID:
Hello Owen and Paul
> Compose a new message
> make a To address
> change the next address to Cc
>
> Now I am unable to input anything into the Cc line
>
the same issue here
you are right, there is someting wrong with fedora 17 gtk implementation
many thnx
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 5 13:39:36 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 13:39:36 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2390] Non-fully-trusted-key-warning appears based on
primary UID rather than recipient e-mail
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120905113936.438D1853F0@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2390
--- Comment #1 from users 2012-09-05 13:39:35 ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest CVS and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://www.claws-mail.org/tracker/
2012-09-05 [colin] 3.8.1cvs43
* src/plugins/pgpcore/select-keys.c
Fix bug #2390, "Non-fully-trusted-key-warning appears
based on primary UID rather than recipient e-mail"
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 5 13:48:00 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 13:48:00 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2370] HTML is not displayed for attached email
In-Reply-To:
References:
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2370
Colin Leroy changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution| |WONTFIX
--- Comment #5 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-05 13:47:59 ---
Hi,
The text is inside the following:
THE TEXT, Notice there's no td
(notice the mismatched close tags)
This is beyond my libgtkhtml2 level of competence to implement workaround for
such kludges, so this isn't going to get "fixed".
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 5 13:53:17 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 13:53:17 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2391] template not reloaded after template file change
In-Reply-To:
References:
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2391
Colin Leroy changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution| |WONTFIX
--- Comment #1 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-05 13:53:17 ---
Hi,
Internal Claws-Mail files living in ~/.claws-mail/ are not to be manually
edited.
Editing them while Claws Mail isn't running may work, although this voids your
warranty ;-) but doing so while Claws Mail is running is a sure way to lose
your time. At best, your changes won't get overwritten when quitting Claws
Mail.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 5 14:15:38 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 14:15:38 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2391] template not reloaded after template file change
In-Reply-To:
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2391
--- Comment #2 from Martin Karas 2012-09-05 14:15:37 ---
Thanks for your reply.
Some time ago I decided to go with --compose
"mailto:...?subject=...&cc=..&body=..." instead of templates.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 5 16:03:51 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 16:03:51 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2552] in automatic checking,
enable the use of different time intervals
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--- Comment #21 from Ricardo Mones 2012-09-05 16:03:51 ---
User A and B have both several accounts.
User A has a global interval check of 10 minutes, wants just an account to be
polled every 30 minutes. It would set account times global timer to 3. Right.
User B has global interval check of 60 minutes, wants an account to be polled
every 10 minutes. How to do it with this patch?
Both use cases are perfectly valid IMO.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 5 16:11:39 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 16:11:39 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2552] in automatic checking,
enable the use of different time intervals
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--- Comment #22 from wwp 2012-09-05 16:11:39 ---
User B is dump, Ricardo! He must set the global granularity value to 10, and 1
in his 10min account. IOW, I don't think user B case is pertinent (or I missed
something).
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From avrunin at math.umass.edu Wed Sep 5 16:20:51 2012
From: avrunin at math.umass.edu (George Avrunin)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 10:20:51 -0400
Subject: [Users] possible bug w/ f17: body area read-only after clicking
identities picking list
In-Reply-To:
References:
<20120905090254.4fcc11d0@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20120905102051.69b213af@ext.math.umass.edu>
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 12:56:40 +0200, Maurizio Marini
wrote:
> Hello Owen and Paul
>
>
> > Compose a new message
> > make a To address
> > change the next address to Cc
> >
> > Now I am unable to input anything into the Cc line
> >
>
> the same issue here
> you are right, there is someting wrong with fedora 17 gtk implementation
>
>
> many thnx
> -m
I'm not seeing this, but I've had some similar issues in the past on KDE with
oxygen-gtk bugs (the last time I noticed was in late July). I've (at least
for now) given up on the oxygen theme for that (KDE Settings -> Application
Appearance -> GTK+ Appearance) and switched to Adwaita, and I'm not having the
problem now. I think I'm cc'd on what looked like a relevant bug in the
Fedora Bugzilla, but I can't find the number right now.
George
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From freebsd-listen at fabiankeil.de Wed Sep 5 16:23:28 2012
From: freebsd-listen at fabiankeil.de (Fabian Keil)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 16:23:28 +0200
Subject: [Users] Tor Mail and Claws Mail
In-Reply-To: <20120831112852.167010@gmx.com>
References: <20120831112852.167010@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <20120905162328.47315c3d@fabiankeil.de>
"Genghis Khan" wrote:
> I was wondering how is it possible to use Tor Mail with Claws Mail as
> the latter does not have proxy settings.
Depending on your operating system you might be able to let the
packet filter intercept the connections and redirect them into
Tor or use library preloading with something like torsocks.
I'm somewhat interested in more conveniently using Claws with
Tor (but not "Tor Mail") as well, but haven't been motivated
enough to really look into it.
My preference would be tunnelling the requests through an HTTP
proxy that forwards them to Tor, but native socks support would
be nice, too.
Sylpheed already has native socks support, so if it's really
important to you, you might consider porting it or switching
MUAs.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 5 16:24:15 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 16:24:15 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2552] in automatic checking,
enable the use of different time intervals
In-Reply-To:
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--- Comment #23 from Ricardo Mones 2012-09-05 16:24:15 ---
And to keep it's current preferences will have to edit every other account
setting 6 on the acount times.
And every time B adds an account has to remember to set it to 6, otherwise it
will be polled every 10m. Remember B _wants_ a global poll every 60 minutes,
it's just an account that's different. How do you explain him that he has to
put 10 in global preference and 6 on every other account just because wants
one with a higher frequency?
Account times should be able to divide main frequency as well as it's able to
multiply for covering B cases.
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From ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk Wed Sep 5 16:47:41 2012
From: ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk (Kevin Chadwick)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 15:47:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] Send Mail from current account
Message-ID: <8262.31021.bm@smtp104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Forgive me if this has been asked before but a quick search of the
mailing list didn't turn anything up.
It's not a big issue at all but is it difficult to add a
"Send Mail from current account"
similar to the Get Mail button options as I have lots of accounts and it
connects to all of them otherwise and I like to write offline in case I
initiate send before I am finished (Otherwise I may be more insulting
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 5 16:54:00 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 16:54:00 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2552] in automatic checking,
enable the use of different time intervals
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--- Comment #24 from Yed 2012-09-05 16:54:00 ---
We cannot divide the global timer or we lost the benefits of the granulosity to
go back to the case of one timer by account.
As you said before, the account configuration is done only once, so it is not
really a pain for user B, he just has to play with the settings one time.
It will help if we could add the global timer value in the label, so user B
will not have to remember/look for it.
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From colin at colino.net Wed Sep 5 17:01:08 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 17:01:08 +0200
Subject: [Users] Send Mail from current account
In-Reply-To: <8262.31021.bm@smtp104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <8262.31021.bm@smtp104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20120905170108.29bb2a3c@colin>
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 15:47:41 +0100, Kevin Chadwick
wrote:
> similar to the Get Mail button options as I have lots of accounts and
> it connects to all of them otherwise and I like to write offline in
> case I initiate send before I am finished (Otherwise I may be more
> insulting than I finally decide to be ;-))
You can right click any queue folder and choose "Send Queue" there.
Maybe a bit less practical but I feel that should be enough ?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 5 17:13:40 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 17:13:40 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2552] in automatic checking,
enable the use of different time intervals
In-Reply-To:
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--- Comment #25 from Ricardo Mones 2012-09-05 17:13:39 ---
> We cannot divide the global timer or we lost the benefits of the granulosity
> to go back to the case of one timer by account.
No, it's just more difficult to calculate, which makes it a bit harder to
implement, but if decimals are allowed you still only need one control to allow
both behaviours, and may set almost any frequency (rounded to the minute
anyway).
> As you said before, the account configuration is done only once, so it is not
> really a pain for user B, he just has to play with the settings one time.
The problem is that for user B the 'special account' frequency is conditioning
the global setting, and forever, as she has to remember that on every new
account. That's pretty counter-intuitive.
> It will help if we could add the global timer value in the label, so user B
> will not have to remember/look for it.
In that case would be better to put the final calculated frequency so the user
doesn't need to do the math.
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From ciamarie at my180.net Wed Sep 5 18:39:16 2012
From: ciamarie at my180.net (Cia Watson)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 09:39:16 -0700
Subject: [Users] Send Mail from current account
In-Reply-To: <8262.31021.bm@smtp104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <8262.31021.bm@smtp104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20120905093916.76d6e343@my180.net>
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 15:47:41 +0100
Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> Forgive me if this has been asked before but a quick search of the
> mailing list didn't turn anything up.
>
> It's not a big issue at all but is it difficult to add a
>
> "Send Mail from current account"
You can also right click on any folder, and under preferences you can select
the default account to use for composing messages. I did that for all of my
mailing list folders so it'll default to this address and not my overall
'default' claws address.
If that's what you're looking for.
Cia W.
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From pf at pfortin.com Wed Sep 5 19:08:04 2012
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 13:08:04 -0400
Subject: [Users] new error messages on console
Message-ID: <20120905130804.521f87dd@pfortin.com>
Hi,
Just upgraded from 3.8.1cvs24 to cvs43 and I'm now seeing this sampling
of new error messages (from gtk/menu.c apparently):
** Message: Blah, '/Menu/View/PartAsText/' is not a widget.
** Message: Blah, '/Menu/View/PartAsText/' is not a menu item.
(claws-mail:25631): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_menu_item_get_accel_path:
assertion `GTK_IS_MENU_ITEM (menu_item)' failed
** Message: Blah, '/Menu/View/OpenPartWith/' is not a widget.
** Message: Blah, '/Menu/View/OpenPartWith/' is not a menu item.
(claws-mail:25631): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_menu_item_get_accel_path:
assertion `GTK_IS_MENU_ITEM (menu_item)' failed
** Message: Blah, '/Menu/View/OpenPart/' is not a widget.
** Message: Blah, '/Menu/View/OpenPart/' is not a menu item.
(claws-mail:25631): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_menu_item_get_accel_path:
assertion `GTK_IS_MENU_ITEM (menu_item)' failed
okular(25744) PageView::mouseReleaseEvent: checking if page 0 has text: false
okular(25744)/kdeui (kdelibs) KXMLGUIClient::~KXMLGUIClient: 0x804658
deleted without having been removed from the factory first. This will
leak standalone popupmenus and could lead to crashes.
** Message: Blah, '/Menu/View/PartAsText/' is not a widget.
Any clue what might cause this... appears to be related to opening PDF
attachments. -- I've been using okular for ages to open PDFs.
Should I bug it?
Cheers,
Pierre
From colin at colino.net Wed Sep 5 20:21:56 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 20:21:56 +0200
Subject: [Users] new error messages on console
In-Reply-To: <20120905130804.521f87dd@pfortin.com>
References: <20120905130804.521f87dd@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20120905202156.074705ca@marv>
On 05 September 2012 at 13h08, Pierre Fortin wrote:
Hi,
> Just upgraded from 3.8.1cvs24 to cvs43 and I'm now seeing this
> sampling of new error messages (from gtk/menu.c apparently):
Thank you, typos on my part, this appears on unhandled attachments only.
Fixing them!
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 6 07:32:59 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 07:32:59 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2552] in automatic checking,
enable the use of different time intervals
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120906053259.DDB96853CF@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2552
--- Comment #26 from Abhay S. Kushwaha 2012-09-06 07:32:57 ---
This "calculated to x times of global value" interval for checking emails isn't
every intuitive.
1. It is difficult to understand compared to a simple method: "Check mail every
X minutes for all accounts and for those accounts where you want it different,
go in and set unique values." In the proposed implementation, the latter is
modified to "go and set a multiple of a value set somewhere else".
2. It is not intuitive. I want to check all accounts every 10 minutes but one
account only every 15 minutes. As of now, not possible without changing the
global to "5" and then modifying all accounts.
3. It is not "faster for some accounts" compatible. Like Mones pointed out. In
my case, I would check all accounts every 10 or 15 minutes but 1 account every
5 minutes and an urgent one every 1 minute if possible. Again, I would have to
change the global to "1" and then re-set all accounts to actual values. And if
I suddenly decide I want to check all accounts every 30 minutes without
changing the frequency of the account I'm checking every minute, I have to go
and change all accounts all over again!
4. One has to know maths to use it. Contrary to popular opinion of those
involved in the discussion, many people don't know how to multiply, or are weak
at it, or would prefer not to do it anyway. Forcing people to 'calculate' a
multiple is too much work and a bad design decision.
Plus, a question... does this patch re-set the timers when mail is received
manually?
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From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Thu Sep 6 10:53:55 2012
From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan)
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 10:53:55 +0200
Subject: [Users] Tor Mail and Claws Mail
References: <20120831112852.167010@gmx.com>
<20120905162328.47315c3d@fabiankeil.de>
Message-ID: <20120906085356.167010@gmx.com>
Thank you Fabian for your reply.
It is an honor to me to get a comment from you :-)
Native socks support is exactly what I need. Thank you for referring
me to Sylpheed which is one of my preferred Email client after Claws.
Meanwhile I will continue to use the GMX.com Web Mailer inside a web
browser to use Tor when I am sending Emails to Mailing Lists or to
addresses of the main five web giants.
Is there a ticket already in the bug tracker regarding to this matter?
Note: When there would be Proxy support for Claws, consider to make it
to generate an entry for Tor automatically
. In addition, a warning message
should be written below the Proxy settings which will list the main and
most alerting dangers in using a network such as Tor or any other public
proxy which the user is not familiar with, recommending to use SSL
while using Proxy, a link to "more information" in this regard and a
suggestion to change password every X days (GMX alerts its users every
two weeks).
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 16:23:28 +0200
Fabian Keil wrote:
> "Genghis Khan" wrote:
>
> > I was wondering how is it possible to use Tor Mail with Claws Mail
> > as the latter does not have proxy settings.
>
> Depending on your operating system you might be able to let the
> packet filter intercept the connections and redirect them into
> Tor or use library preloading with something like torsocks.
>
> I'm somewhat interested in more conveniently using Claws with
> Tor (but not "Tor Mail") as well, but haven't been motivated
> enough to really look into it.
>
> My preference would be tunnelling the requests through an HTTP
> proxy that forwards them to Tor, but native socks support would
> be nice, too.
>
> Sylpheed already has native socks support, so if it's really
> important to you, you might consider porting it or switching
> MUAs.
>
> Fabian
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From ricardo at mones.org Thu Sep 6 14:32:14 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:32:14 +0200
Subject: [Users] Tor Mail and Claws Mail
In-Reply-To: <20120906085356.167010@gmx.com>
References: <20120831112852.167010@gmx.com>
<20120905162328.47315c3d@fabiankeil.de>
<20120906085356.167010@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <20120906123214.GP31005@trasgu>
On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 10:53:55AM +0200, Genghis Khan wrote:
[...]
> Native socks support is exactly what I need. Thank you for referring
> me to Sylpheed which is one of my preferred Email client after Claws.
[...]
> Is there a ticket already in the bug tracker regarding to this matter?
In fact there's two, but first one, which contain some suggestion, is:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2244
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00:45 < hammar> cool.. have you used rssyl?
00:46 <@Ticho> um, yes Seen on #sylpheed
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 6 14:31:10 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:31:10 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2330] Socks proxy
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120906123116.878F785576@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2330
--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones 2012-09-06 14:31:07 ---
This is a duplicate of #2244
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From ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk Thu Sep 6 15:39:48 2012
From: ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk (Kevin Chadwick)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:39:48 +0100
Subject: [Users] Send Mail from current account
In-Reply-To: <20120905170108.29bb2a3c@colin>
References: <8262.31021.bm@smtp104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
<20120905170108.29bb2a3c@colin>
Message-ID: <946945.1244.bm@smtp147.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
> > similar to the Get Mail button options as I have lots of accounts and
> > it connects to all of them otherwise and I like to write offline in
> > case I initiate send before I am finished (Otherwise I may be more
> > insulting than I finally decide to be ;-))
>
> You can right click any queue folder and choose "Send Queue" there.
> Maybe a bit less practical but I feel that should be enough ?
May even be more practical and I should have looked there, Thanks.
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From colin at colino.net Thu Sep 6 15:44:30 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 15:44:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] Send Mail from current account
In-Reply-To: <946945.1244.bm@smtp147.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <8262.31021.bm@smtp104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
<20120905170108.29bb2a3c@colin>
<946945.1244.bm@smtp147.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20120906154430.039e74e1@colin>
On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:39:48 +0100, Kevin Chadwick
wrote:
> > You can right click any queue folder and choose "Send Queue" there.
> > Maybe a bit less practical but I feel that should be enough ?
>
> May even be more practical and I should have looked there, Thanks.
Cool then :) you're welcome!
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 6 20:24:28 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 20:24:28 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2330] Socks proxy
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120906182428.E7B1A853CF@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2330
Colin Leroy changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution| |DUPLICATE
--- Comment #2 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-06 20:24:28 ---
*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 2244 ***
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 6 20:24:29 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 20:24:29 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2244] No proxy settings
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120906182429.5673A853CF@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2244
Colin Leroy changed:
What |Removed |Added
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CC| |rainexpected at theo.to
--- Comment #2 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-06 20:24:28 ---
*** Bug 2330 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
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From cwallace at lodgingcompany.com Thu Sep 6 20:36:17 2012
From: cwallace at lodgingcompany.com (Chad Wallace)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:36:17 -0700
Subject: [Users] Can I change the text highlight color in searched
messages?
In-Reply-To: <20120830110228.73018e2f@victoria>
References: <20120829141817.60cae31b@victoria>
<20120830110228.73018e2f@victoria>
Message-ID: <20120906113617.48063c14@ws78.int.tlc>
On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 11:02:28 -0700
"Victoria S." <1 at VictoriasJourney.com> wrote:
> In Claws, however, this same highlighting is only evident when I
> close the "Find in current message..." popup; then the found text is
> highlighted (as above, in gedit), in the Claws mail message.
> However, while this popup is open (i.e. if you are recursively
> searching for another instance of the search term), they appear as
> black text on a very light background, virtually indistinguishable
> from the non-highlighted text, and almost impossible to spot, until
> you close the pop-up (search box).
This is because the window with the message text doesn't get focus
until you close the dialog, and when unfocused, it uses a different
colour. You could see if you can edit your theme to change the
highlight/selection colour for unfocused windows to be the same as for
focused windows.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 9 02:38:47 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 02:38:47 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2081] counting messages
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120909003847.A947D8540B@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2081
--- Comment #1 from Raphael Groner 2012-09-09 02:38:47 ---
Use the Notification plugin instead. There, you can restrict the counter on
each type.
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From CAE at eslrahc.com Sun Sep 9 10:30:15 2012
From: CAE at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards)
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 04:30:15 -0400
Subject: [Users] Build failure with python-plugin and cvs claws-3.8.1cvs46
Message-ID: <20120909043015.7408a9b0@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
Building python_plugin-0.10cvs7 with claws-3.8.1cvs46 now fails for me.
composewindowtype.c: In function ‘ComposeWindow_init’:
composewindowtype.c:104:32: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete
type
make[2]: *** [composewindowtype.lo] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/home/charles/Download/python_plugin-0.10cvs7/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/home/charles/Download/python_plugin-0.10cvs7'
make: *** [all] Error 2
Charles
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 9 12:31:36 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 12:31:36 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2731] New: cannot connect to POP3 account
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2731
Summary: cannot connect to POP3 account
Product: Website
Version: unspecified
Platform: PC
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: General
AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
ReportedBy: ian at iansinclair.plus.com
Claws opens, but cannot connect. This started when I changed the Router, to
Netgear DGN2200 but there are no problems with Firefor or Thunderbird.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 9 13:10:56 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 13:10:56 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2731] cannot connect to POP3 account
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120909111056.8EF108540B@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2731
--- Comment #1 from Paul 2012-09-09 13:10:56 ---
It must be an error in the credentials that you are providing. What does
/Tools/Network Log say when this happens?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 9 18:21:49 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 18:21:49 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2731] cannot connect to POP3 account
In-Reply-To:
References:
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2731
Paul changed:
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Component|General |POP3
Version|unspecified |3.8.1
Product|Website |Claws Mail
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From bob at blisworthhouse.co.uk Sun Sep 9 22:13:43 2012
From: bob at blisworthhouse.co.uk (Bob Daniel)
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:13:43 +0100
Subject: [Users] Windows gpg4win-light-2.1.1-svn1696-colin.exe Regression?
Message-ID: <20120909211343.357e7e761ece9a26e5f6e0e7@blisworthhouse.co.uk>
Windows Claws in Gpg4win 2.1.0 works fine.
That in gpg4win-light-2.1.1-svn1696-colin.exe takes forever to exit.
It look as if the Windows version a) has suffered a regression and b) is miles behind the Unix versions (which work well on my Lubuntu computers using the same IMAP server).
Does anyone have 2.1.1 svn 1696 working OK? Was it worth moving from 2.1.0?
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Mon Sep 10 00:28:19 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 23:28:19 +0100
Subject: [Users] Windows gpg4win-light-2.1.1-svn1696-colin.exe
Regression?
In-Reply-To: <20120909211343.357e7e761ece9a26e5f6e0e7@blisworthhouse.co.uk>
References: <20120909211343.357e7e761ece9a26e5f6e0e7@blisworthhouse.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20120909232819.1b59f932@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:13:43 +0100
Bob Daniel wrote:
> Does anyone have 2.1.1 svn 1696 working OK?
Yes, I use it all the time, I do not see any slowness in exiting,
running under Win XP in my case.
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From CAE at eslrahc.com Mon Sep 10 01:22:08 2012
From: CAE at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards)
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 19:22:08 -0400
Subject: [Users] Build failure with python-plugin and cvs
claws-3.8.1cvs46
In-Reply-To: <20120909043015.7408a9b0@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
References: <20120909043015.7408a9b0@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
Message-ID: <20120909192208.4871f1ec@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 04:30:15 -0400
Charles A Edwards wrote:
> Building python_plugin-0.10cvs7 with claws-3.8.1cvs46 now fails for
> me.
Fixed with 0.10cvs8
Thanks
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Mon Sep 10 14:56:28 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:56:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] PDF plugin build failure with cvs47
Message-ID: <20120910135628.00002aef@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Please could we have an updated snapshot of the PDF plugin? Neither
0.9.1cvs nor 0.9.2 will build with the changes from, presumably, cvs46.
Cheers!
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Mon Sep 10 20:19:04 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:19:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] PDF plugin build failure with cvs47
In-Reply-To: <20120910135628.00002aef@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20120910135628.00002aef@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20120910191904.0000274c@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:56:28 +0100
Brian Morrison wrote:
> Please could we have an updated snapshot of the PDF plugin? Neither
> 0.9.1cvs nor 0.9.2 will build with the changes from, presumably,
> cvs46.
Actually, there a few other plugins that don't seem to have updated
snapshots despite there being commits in cvs recently:
gdata
geolocation
maildir
Please could these be snapshotted too?
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From colin at colino.net Mon Sep 10 20:50:48 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:50:48 +0200
Subject: [Users] PDF plugin build failure with cvs47
In-Reply-To: <20120910135628.00002aef@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20120910135628.00002aef@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20120910205048.7af5792a@marv>
On 10 September 2012 at 13h56, Brian Morrison wrote:
Hi,
> Please could we have an updated snapshot of the PDF plugin? Neither
> 0.9.1cvs nor 0.9.2 will build with the changes from, presumably,
> cvs46.
Thanks Brian, I forgot to commit this one.
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From ratinox at gweep.net Mon Sep 10 21:33:05 2012
From: ratinox at gweep.net (Stainless Steel Rat)
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:33:05 -0400
Subject: [Users] Compiling gtkhtml2_viewer on OS X 10.7
Message-ID: <20120910153305.0000248a@unknown>
This is on OS X 10.7 (Lion) x86_64, Fink 0.34.3 (current), Xcode 4.4.1
(current) with command line tools (LLVM-GCC 4.2.1). Claws Mail
built per the instructions on the Wiki. GCC throws this error when
compiling:
gtkhtml2_viewer.c:1299: error: expected ';' before 'MENUITEM_ADDUI_MANAGER'
gtkhtml2_viewer.c:1306: error: expected ';' before 'MENUITEM_ADDUI_MANAGER'
gtkhtml2_viewer.c: In function 'plugin_init':
gtkhtml2_viewer.c:1341: warning: statement with no effect
gtkhtml2_viewer.c:1345: warning: statement with no effect
make[2]: *** [gtkhtml2_viewer.lo] Error 1
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make: *** [all] Error 2
Any suggestions? I couldn't find anything in the list archives and
Google didn't help, either.
Thanks.
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From colin at colino.net Tue Sep 11 09:28:16 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:28:16 +0200
Subject: [Users] Compiling gtkhtml2_viewer on OS X 10.7
In-Reply-To: <20120910153305.0000248a@unknown>
References: <20120910153305.0000248a@unknown>
Message-ID: <20120911092816.55212fe6@colin>
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:33:05 -0400, Stainless Steel Rat
wrote:
> gtkhtml2_viewer.c:1299: error: expected ';' before
> 'MENUITEM_ADDUI_MANAGER' gtkhtml2_viewer.c:1306: error: expected ';'
> before 'MENUITEM_ADDUI_MANAGER'
It seems like the Claws Mail includes aren't correctly found by
configure in gtkhtml2_viewer. MENUITEM_ADDUI_MANAGER should be defined
in "gtk/menu.h" (/usr/local/include/claws-mail/gtk/menu.h for me for
example).
Check the value of CLAWS_MAIL_CFLAGS in gtkhtml2_viewer/src/Makefile
for me it's :
CLAWS_MAIL_CFLAGS = -pthread -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
-I/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/enchant
-I/usr/local/include/claws-mail -I/usr/local/include/claws-mail/common
-I/usr/local/include/claws-mail/gtk
(The two last lines being Claws' include paths)
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From claws-mail_user at thehugheslogcabin.net Tue Sep 11 16:42:43 2012
From: claws-mail_user at thehugheslogcabin.net (Michael Hughes)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:42:43 -0500
Subject: [Users] Encrypted email
Message-ID: <20120911094243.516c131a@thehugheslogcabin.net>
Has something changed that local copies of encrypted email are no
longer encrypted?
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Tue Sep 11 17:34:52 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:34:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] PDF plugin build failure with cvs47
In-Reply-To: <20120910205048.7af5792a@marv>
References: <20120910135628.00002aef@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120910205048.7af5792a@marv>
Message-ID: <20120911163452.00006dbb@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:50:48 +0200
Colin Leroy wrote:
> On 10 September 2012 at 13h56, Brian Morrison wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > Please could we have an updated snapshot of the PDF plugin? Neither
> > 0.9.1cvs nor 0.9.2 will build with the changes from, presumably,
> > cvs46.
>
> Thanks Brian, I forgot to commit this one.
>
Will you be providing snapshots of the missing plugins?
gdata, geolocation and pdf are included in the Fedora Claws plugins
list so it would be useful to keep up with CVS changes to allow for
enhanced testing.
For some reason I find building from CVS is always problematic, so
those snapshots are very useful for me.
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From colin at colino.net Tue Sep 11 17:39:25 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:39:25 +0200
Subject: [Users] PDF plugin build failure with cvs47
In-Reply-To: <20120911163452.00006dbb@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20120910135628.00002aef@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120910205048.7af5792a@marv>
<20120911163452.00006dbb@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20120911173925.5750c7eb@colin>
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:34:52 +0100, Brian Morrison
wrote:
> Will you be providing snapshots of the missing plugins?
>
> gdata, geolocation and pdf are included in the Fedora Claws plugins
> list so it would be useful to keep up with CVS changes to allow for
> enhanced testing.
>
> For some reason I find building from CVS is always problematic, so
> those snapshots are very useful for me.
I have to re-enable pdf now that licensing isn't an issue anymore; for
the others, they're disabled because of unavailable dependancies on the
snapshotting server...
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Tue Sep 11 17:42:48 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:42:48 +0100
Subject: [Users] PDF plugin build failure with cvs47
In-Reply-To: <20120911173925.5750c7eb@colin>
References: <20120910135628.00002aef@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120910205048.7af5792a@marv>
<20120911163452.00006dbb@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120911173925.5750c7eb@colin>
Message-ID: <20120911164248.00002485@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:39:25 +0200
Colin Leroy wrote:
> I have to re-enable pdf now that licensing isn't an issue anymore; for
> the others, they're disabled because of unavailable dependancies on
> the snapshotting server...
Might this be something that Holger could provide?
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From ratinox at gweep.net Tue Sep 11 17:48:53 2012
From: ratinox at gweep.net (Stainless Steel Rat)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:48:53 -0400
Subject: [Users] Compiling gtkhtml2_viewer on OS X 10.7
In-Reply-To: <20120911092816.55212fe6@colin>
References: <20120910153305.0000248a@unknown> <20120911092816.55212fe6@colin>
Message-ID: <20120911114853.00001761@unknown>
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:28:16 +0200
Colin Leroy wrote:
> Check the value of CLAWS_MAIL_CFLAGS in gtkhtml2_viewer/src/Makefile
> for me it's :
> CLAWS_MAIL_CFLAGS = -pthread -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
> -I/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/enchant
> -I/usr/local/include/claws-mail
> -I/usr/local/include/claws-mail/common
> -I/usr/local/include/claws-mail/gtk
CLAWS_MAIL_CFLAGS = -I/opt/fink/include/enchant
-I/opt/fink/include/glib-2.0 -I/opt/fink/lib/glib-2.0/include
-I/opt/fink/include -I/opt/fink/include/claws-mail
-I/opt/fink/include/claws-mail/common
-I/opt/fink/include/claws-mail/gtk
It's a good clue as there is a "menu.h" related to ncurses
under /opt/fink/include. Changing the includes list to
put /opt/fink/include last lets it build cleanly.
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From mir at miras.org Tue Sep 11 17:51:37 2012
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:51:37 +0200
Subject: [Users] PDF plugin build failure with cvs47
In-Reply-To: <20120911164248.00002485@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20120910135628.00002aef@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120910205048.7af5792a@marv>
<20120911163452.00006dbb@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120911173925.5750c7eb@colin>
<20120911164248.00002485@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:42:48 +0100
Brian Morrison wrote:
>
> Might this be something that Holger could provide?
>
For geolocation it would require a big rewrite since a lot of the
functions used in the plugin is not available in newer versions of
clutter-gtk and champlain-gtk so it is not only unbuildable but also
uninstallable on newer distributions - read GTK3 based.
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Tue Sep 11 18:57:27 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:57:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] PDF plugin build failure with cvs47
In-Reply-To: <20120911175137.571d72be@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20120910135628.00002aef@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120910205048.7af5792a@marv>
<20120911163452.00006dbb@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120911173925.5750c7eb@colin>
<20120911164248.00002485@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:51:37 +0200
Michael Rasmussen wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:42:48 +0100
> Brian Morrison wrote:
>
> >
> > Might this be something that Holger could provide?
> >
> For geolocation it would require a big rewrite since a lot of the
> functions used in the plugin is not available in newer versions of
> clutter-gtk and champlain-gtk so it is not only unbuildable but also
> uninstallable on newer distributions - read GTK3 based.
>
Interesting, geolocation is included in Fedora 17 and I can build
either 0.0.2 or 0.0.8 and install them. Fedora is definitely GTK3 based.
I have not actually tried using it though...
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Tue Sep 11 19:09:38 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:09:38 +0100
Subject: [Users] PDF plugin build failure with cvs47
In-Reply-To: <20120911175727.00002ecf@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20120910135628.00002aef@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120910205048.7af5792a@marv>
<20120911163452.00006dbb@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
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<20120911164248.00002485@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:57:27 +0100
Brian Morrison wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:51:37 +0200
> Michael Rasmussen wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:42:48 +0100
> > Brian Morrison wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Might this be something that Holger could provide?
> > >
> > For geolocation it would require a big rewrite since a lot of the
> > functions used in the plugin is not available in newer versions of
> > clutter-gtk and champlain-gtk so it is not only unbuildable but also
> > uninstallable on newer distributions - read GTK3 based.
> >
>
> Interesting, geolocation is included in Fedora 17 and I can build
> either 0.0.2 or 0.0.8 and install them. Fedora is definitely GTK3
> based.
>
> I have not actually tried using it though...
>
But I note that libchamplain is at version 1.3.2 and there is a
relatively recent clutter library and also a compat version installed.
Maybe that's why it builds and installs, so I assume it should work too.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 11 19:17:30 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:17:30 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2732] New: Notification tooltip shows negative count
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2732
Summary: Notification tooltip shows negative count
Product: Claws Mail
Version: 3.8.1
Platform: PC
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: major
Priority: P3
Component: Plugins/Notification
AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
ReportedBy: raphgro at web.de
Sometimes there are -1 new and unread mails mentioned in the tooltip. The icon
shows then the status "new mail available".
Please see attached screen shot.
I can imagine that it has to do with the delayed but automatically unmarking of
new mails.
Configuration > Preferences > Display/Summaries > Message list > Mark message
as read >
when selected after (3) seconds
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 11 19:23:06 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:23:06 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2732] Notification tooltip shows negative count
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120911172306.3196F854C8@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2732
--- Comment #1 from Raphael Groner 2012-09-11 19:23:05 ---
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negative counter
-1 new and unread mails
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From mir at miras.org Tue Sep 11 19:33:58 2012
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:33:58 +0200
Subject: [Users] PDF plugin build failure with cvs47
In-Reply-To: <20120911180938.000079bf@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20120910135628.00002aef@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120910205048.7af5792a@marv>
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:09:38 +0100
Brian Morrison wrote:
>
> But I note that libchamplain is at version 1.3.2 and there is a
> relatively recent clutter library and also a compat version installed.
> Maybe that's why it builds and installs, so I assume it should work too.
>
That might easily be the answer. Debian Unstable does not provide other
than the newest libraries. geolocation fails to build with
champlain-gtk >= 0.10
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From colin at colino.net Tue Sep 11 20:18:31 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:18:31 +0200
Subject: [Users] Compiling gtkhtml2_viewer on OS X 10.7
In-Reply-To: <20120911114853.00001761@unknown>
References: <20120910153305.0000248a@unknown> <20120911092816.55212fe6@colin>
<20120911114853.00001761@unknown>
Message-ID: <20120911201831.5078672d@marv>
On 11 September 2012 at 11h48, Stainless Steel Rat wrote:
Hi,
> It's a good clue as there is a "menu.h" related to ncurses
> under /opt/fink/include. Changing the includes list to
> put /opt/fink/include last lets it build cleanly.
Great :) If you can find a way to make that automatic using standard
autotools magic, we'll gladly accept the patch !
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Tue Sep 11 20:19:02 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:19:02 +0100
Subject: [Users] PDF plugin build failure with cvs47
In-Reply-To: <20120911193358.44b8745e@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20120910135628.00002aef@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120910205048.7af5792a@marv>
<20120911163452.00006dbb@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120911173925.5750c7eb@colin>
<20120911164248.00002485@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120911175137.571d72be@sleipner.datanom.net>
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Message-ID: <20120911191902.00007571@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:33:58 +0200
Michael Rasmussen wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:09:38 +0100
> Brian Morrison wrote:
>
> >
> > But I note that libchamplain is at version 1.3.2 and there is a
> > relatively recent clutter library and also a compat version
> > installed. Maybe that's why it builds and installs, so I assume it
> > should work too.
> >
> That might easily be the answer. Debian Unstable does not provide
> other than the newest libraries. geolocation fails to build with
> champlain-gtk >= 0.10
>
I have libchamplain-gtk-0.12.3 on Fedora 17, I think this is the
latest. Not sure where I got the version 1.3.2 from, ah, that's actually
for clutter-gtk but in F17 you get 1.2.0 with the later version for F18
and F19. clutter-gtk010 is at 0.11.4
So, I suppose that Debian unstable means exactly what it says, stable
Debian was always a long way behind the bleeding edge.
Aaargh! Just noticed that actually the installed plugin package
actually contains only a readme that says not installed because CM is
built using GTK+ 2.
I'll shut up now, except...
Holger, can you provide a snapshot of the gdata plugin CVS?
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From ratinox at gweep.net Tue Sep 11 21:14:13 2012
From: ratinox at gweep.net (ratinox at gweep.net)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:14:13 -0400
Subject: [Users] Compiling gtkhtml2_viewer on OS X 10.7
In-Reply-To: <20120911114853.00001761@unknown>
References: <20120910153305.0000248a@unknown> <20120911092816.55212fe6@colin>
<20120911114853.00001761@unknown>
Message-ID: <20120911151413.00004630@unknown>
Compiled but won't load. I get an error "Symbol not found: _D_". Just
one more way that Macintosh has been getting worse rather than better.
Getting Claws Mail working on it has been a pain.
Fink is the documented build framework but more than a few Fink packages
are very outdated and building plugins against Fink is proving
troublesome. Also, Dillo doesn't build at all against Fink on 10.7 so
that options is out.
Claws Mail exists in MacPorts and builds cleanly but it doesn't work
with Microsoft's Exchange IMAP connector due to recent changes in how
OpenSSL handles cipher negotiation. At least not the Exchange that I'm
on. It's a libetpan dependency (I believe). libetpan compiled from
MacPorts uses the MacPorts version of OpenSSL (v1.0.1c); compiled
against Fink per the Wiki uses the system version (v0.9.8).
I haven't tried building any plugins against MacPorts.
I'm going to keep poking at this, try to get everything working with or
or the other of the two package systems. For now, I have Claws Mail
compiled with Fink and Dillo from MacPorts for html rendering.
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From ratinox at gweep.net Tue Sep 11 23:09:25 2012
From: ratinox at gweep.net (ratinox at gweep.net)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:09:25 -0400
Subject: [Users] Compiling gtkhtml2_viewer on OS X 10.7
In-Reply-To: <20120911201831.5078672d@marv>
References: <20120910153305.0000248a@unknown> <20120911092816.55212fe6@colin>
<20120911114853.00001761@unknown> <20120911201831.5078672d@marv>
Message-ID: <20120911170925.000032c3@unknown>
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:18:31 +0200
Colin Leroy wrote:
> Great :) If you can find a way to make that automatic using standard
> autotools magic, we'll gladly accept the patch !
I traced the problem to the Cflags order in claws-mail.pc. It's tied to
Enchant's Cflags list. Putting the Enchant and GpgME flags at the end
cleans up the include order. I'll mail you the patch separately
(not sure if the list will strip attachments). Claws Mail and
gtkhtml2_viewer compile cleanly and run on Lion with this patch but I
don't know what else, if anything, might break.
I've also made some progress on a working MacPorts-based build process.
I'll test it on a clean MacPorts installation and write up the
instructions for the Wiki if it works reliably.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 00:00:09 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 00:00:09 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2732] Notification tooltip shows negative count
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120911220009.57B12854C8@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2732
Holger Berndt changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Severity|major |normal
--- Comment #2 from Holger Berndt 2012-09-12 00:00:08 ---
Is there a way to reproduce this?
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From berndth at gmx.de Wed Sep 12 00:08:11 2012
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 00:08:11 +0200
Subject: [Users] PDF plugin build failure with cvs47
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On Di, 11.09.2012 19:19, Brian Morrison wrote:
>Holger, can you provide a snapshot of the gdata plugin CVS?
I know next to nothing about what's needed to provide snapshots.
Holger
From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Wed Sep 12 00:35:02 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 23:35:02 +0100
Subject: [Users] PDF plugin build failure with cvs47
In-Reply-To: <20120912000811.4c368278@wodan>
References: <20120910135628.00002aef@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120910205048.7af5792a@marv>
<20120911163452.00006dbb@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120911173925.5750c7eb@colin>
<20120911164248.00002485@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120911175137.571d72be@sleipner.datanom.net>
<20120911175727.00002ecf@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 00:08:11 +0200
Holger Berndt wrote:
> On Di, 11.09.2012 19:19, Brian Morrison wrote:
>
> >Holger, can you provide a snapshot of the gdata plugin CVS?
>
> I know next to nothing about what's needed to provide snapshots.
I presume it's a matter of running the usual CVS autogen.sh and
possibly configure steps and then providing a tarball of the result to
Colin for uploading onto the snapshot server.
Colin?
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From mir at miras.org Wed Sep 12 00:43:30 2012
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 00:43:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] PDF plugin build failure with cvs47
In-Reply-To: <20120912000811.4c368278@wodan>
References: <20120910135628.00002aef@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120910205048.7af5792a@marv>
<20120911163452.00006dbb@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120911173925.5750c7eb@colin>
<20120911164248.00002485@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120911175137.571d72be@sleipner.datanom.net>
<20120911175727.00002ecf@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120911180938.000079bf@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120911193358.44b8745e@sleipner.datanom.net>
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 00:08:11 +0200
Holger Berndt wrote:
>
> I know next to nothing about what's needed to provide snapshots.
>
make dist is your friend:-)
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 08:59:46 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 08:59:46 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2732] Notification tooltip shows negative count
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--- Comment #3 from Raphael Groner 2012-09-12 08:59:45 ---
Honestly, I don't know how to reproduce for sure. I guess that it has something
to do with the delay feature to unmark new mails (see second part of comment
#1).
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Subject: [Users] [Bug 2732] Notification tooltip shows negative count
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--- Comment #4 from Raphael Groner 2012-09-12 09:01:04 ---
Doing a resync with the IMAP4 server fixes the counter. So I reduce Severity to
minor cause of available (but not nice usability) work around.
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From colin at colino.net Wed Sep 12 09:23:30 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 09:23:30 +0200
Subject: [Users] Compiling gtkhtml2_viewer on OS X 10.7
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References: <20120910153305.0000248a@unknown> <20120911092816.55212fe6@colin>
<20120911114853.00001761@unknown> <20120911201831.5078672d@marv>
<20120911170925.000032c3@unknown>
Message-ID: <20120912092330.628e55b7@colin>
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:09:25 -0400, ratinox at gweep.net wrote:
> I traced the problem to the Cflags order in claws-mail.pc. It's tied
> to Enchant's Cflags list. Putting the Enchant and GpgME flags at the
> end cleans up the include order. I'll mail you the patch separately
> (not sure if the list will strip attachments). Claws Mail and
> gtkhtml2_viewer compile cleanly and run on Lion with this patch but I
> don't know what else, if anything, might break.
Thank you!
> I've also made some progress on a working MacPorts-based build
> process. I'll test it on a clean MacPorts installation and write up
> the instructions for the Wiki if it works reliably.
That's great :)
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From colin at colino.net Wed Sep 12 09:28:56 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 09:28:56 +0200
Subject: [Users] Compiling gtkhtml2_viewer on OS X 10.7
In-Reply-To: <20120911151413.00004630@unknown>
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:14:13 -0400, ratinox at gweep.net wrote:
> Compiled but won't load. I get an error "Symbol not found: _D_". Just
> one more way that Macintosh has been getting worse rather than better.
> Getting Claws Mail working on it has been a pain.
This is about gettext. Maybe the included gettext.h doesn't get
included, or doesn't define D_(), or something.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 10:53:36 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 10:53:36 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1961] Patches for a couple of clang warnings
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--- Comment #5 from users 2012-09-12 10:53:35 ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest CVS and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://www.claws-mail.org/tracker/
2012-09-12 [colin] 3.8.1cvs51
* src/compose.c
* src/mh.c
* src/common/ssl.c
* src/plugins/pgpcore/passphrase.c
Apply patches from bug #1961, "patches for
a couple of clang warnings":
- Check return codes
- Remove dead code
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 11:24:38 2012
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:24:38 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1961] Patches for a couple of clang warnings
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--- Comment #6 from users 2012-09-12 11:24:37 ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest CVS and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://www.claws-mail.org/tracker/
2012-09-12 [colin] 3.8.1cvs52
* src/addressbook.c
* src/addrharvest.c
* src/addrindex.c
* src/addritem.c
* src/compose.c
* src/edittags.c
* src/folder.c
* src/imap.c
* src/inc.c
* src/ldif.c
* src/mainwindow.c
* src/mbox.c
* src/mimeview.c
* src/mutt.c
* src/partial_download.c
* src/prefs_filtering_action.c
* src/prefs_toolbar.c
* src/printing.c
* src/procheader.c
* src/procmime.c
* src/procmsg.c
* src/summaryview.c
* src/textview.c
* src/common/utils.c
* src/etpan/imap-thread.c
* src/gtk/gtkaspell.c
* src/plugins/pgpcore/sgpgme.c
More fixes from bug #1961:
- Write-only variables
- Null pointer dereferences
- A couple other fixes for which the reporter
was unsure, but which showed problems.
More details in bug #1961 comments.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 11:29:21 2012
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:29:21 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1961] Patches for a couple of clang warnings
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Colin Leroy changed:
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Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution| |FIXED
--- Comment #8 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-12 11:29:20 ---
Hi,
Better late than never... Patches applied. A few comments about
unsure-ones.diff:
Subject: [PATCH 02/10] In procmsg_list_sort_by_account(), give nothing_to_sort
the chance to be FALSE when it's checked. XXX: This is a guess.
Initially applied but I reverted it, I don't remember what this is supposed to
do :)
Subject: [PATCH 03/10] Not sure about this one, but otherwise w_hbox would have
no purpose.
w_hbox had no purpose :)
Subject: [PATCH 07/10] Remove interim variable tags. Maybe tmp should be
renamed to tags.
In fact tags was there to keep the pointer at the start of the list in order to
free it. This was a leak.
Subject: [PATCH 09/10] Remove write-only variable is_group.
Kept it, I find it makes the if logic more clear
Thanks for your patches !
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 11:35:20 2012
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:35:20 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1975] preference mutt key bindings do not take effect
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--- Comment #1 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-12 11:35:20 ---
The keybinds in src/prefs_other.c (prefs_keybind_apply_clicked function) are
incomplete. It would be nice if a Mutt user completed them.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 11:37:18 2012
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:37:18 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2033] [PATCH] chunked download (fix for slow
connection vs long messages)
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Resolution| |LATER
--- Comment #7 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-12 11:37:17 ---
This could be a nice addition if the patch was more complete like described in
comments 4 and 5. Also, it's strange that mmap_string_unref() is replaced by
free() in the patch.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 11:39:09 2012
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:39:09 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2056] claws-mail hang when type non-ascii characters
using Input Method Engine (IME)
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 11:42:36 2012
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:42:36 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2090] Hangs at shutdown if network connection is lost
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--- Comment #8 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-12 11:42:36 ---
If you say No, it won't bother you for 5 minutes more.
Concerning the report, if Claws thinks it's online, it will try to access the
network. To avoid having it hang for too long in case of no connection, lower
the I/O timeout in the preferences.
Also, in case of no connection, the system should send an immediate no route to
host instead of letting connect() try to connect and timeout. Maybe the
connection manager doesn't correctly remove default routes when interfaces go
down.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 11:50:11 2012
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:50:11 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2101] claws-mail crash at mail sending
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--- Comment #10 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-12 11:50:11 ---
I can't reproduce or figure out what's wrong. Please reopen if it can still
happen with 3.8.1.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 11:59:40 2012
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:59:40 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2101] claws-mail crash at mail sending
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--- Comment #11 from Ivan 2012-09-12 11:59:40 ---
it was reproduced on P4 3Ghz with hyperthreading
now I can't check this, because doesn't have that pc and moved avay from
claws-mail
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 12:09:27 2012
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:09:27 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2109] implement remove_msgs callback for MailMBOX
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Colin Leroy changed:
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Summary|slow removal of many |implement remove_msgs
|messages |callback for MailMBOX
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 12:10:44 2012
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:10:44 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2109] implement remove_msgs callback for MailMBOX
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--- Comment #1 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-12 12:10:43 ---
Better late than never... Thanks for your patch, applied.
2012-09-12 [colin] 1.14.7cvs5
* src/mailmbox_folder.c
Fix bug #2109, "implement remove_msgs callback for MailMBOX"
Patch mostly by Cindy Matthews.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 12:11:49 2012
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:11:49 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2127] SSL cert check uses canonical name instead of
specified name
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 12:14:30 2012
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:14:30 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2122] Incorrect message size calculation in summary
view
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--- Comment #6 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-12 12:14:29 ---
I can't reproduce that. If anyone can with a publicly attachable mail, please
attach and reopen :)
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 12:19:24 2012
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:19:24 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2136] IMAP Delete Does Not Copy To Trash (Windows 7 64
+ Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1)
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--- Comment #3 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-12 12:19:23 ---
I can't reproduce that. When moved to trash, the email is copied to trash, flag
\Deleted set on the original and then expunge is done (or not depending on the
Immediate Execution preference).
But, there is now Move to Trash which does what you want, and Delete, which
does not put anything in Trash. Maybe that's what confused you?
comment #2: there is such an option now.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 12:24:05 2012
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:24:05 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1975] preference mutt key bindings do not take effect
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--- Comment #2 from Ricardo Mones 2012-09-12 12:24:05 ---
Challenge accepted!
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 12:25:24 2012
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:25:24 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2152] auto-key-retrieve in gpg causing claws-mail to
hang for over two minutes
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--- Comment #3 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-12 12:25:24 ---
We have no control over what gpgMe/Gnupg does when there's an automatic key
retrieval. You can either stop checking signatures automatically or disable
auto-key-retrieve.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 12:26:33 2012
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:26:33 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2140] Windows 7 ultimate
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--- Comment #4 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-12 12:26:33 ---
This bug should be reported to Gpg4win in my opinion. If the results differ
when pinentry.exe differs, I don't think it can be Claws' fault.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 12:31:58 2012
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:31:58 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2216] Cannot add groups...
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--- Comment #9 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-12 12:31:58 ---
We do not support the Maemo platform anymore.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 12 15:11:59 2012
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:11:59 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1975] preference mutt key bindings do not take effect
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--- Comment #3 from Ricardo Mones 2012-09-12 15:11:58 ---
Unfortunately setting some current Mutt keys is not even possible: escape
cannot be used as modifier, for example. And, of course, the tab key which is
already usurped^Whandled by GTK or some common WM accelerators.
As they cover important functions, will be workarounded to completely different
keys, with the hope of keeping a Mutt feeling though ;-)
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From freebsd at grem.de Wed Sep 12 16:05:16 2012
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:05:16 +0200
Subject: [Users] Calendar plugin queues messages
In-Reply-To: <20120904142934.487a482e@bsd64.grem.de>
References: <20120904142934.487a482e@bsd64.grem.de>
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On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 14:29:34 +0200
Michael Gmelin wrote:
> I noticed lately that when accepting calendar invitations, the
> generated answer mails are not sent, but written to the Queue folder
> instead.
>
> This used to work, is there any specific setting to tweak or anything
> else I missed? (The mails look ok, and when manually sending them are
> accepted by the receiving party)
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>
Reinstalling the vcalendar plugin fixed it (I changed the
preferences struct myself a while ago and forgot that plugin, that's
why reading the offline flag yielded the wrong result. DUH!).
Sorry for the noise.
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From colin at colino.net Wed Sep 12 16:20:31 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:20:31 +0200
Subject: [Users] Encrypted email
In-Reply-To: <20120911094243.516c131a@thehugheslogcabin.net>
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:42:43 -0500, Michael Hughes
wrote:
> Has something changed that local copies of encrypted email are no
> longer encrypted?
It works for me. Both with and without encrypting to self. Maybe you
have gpg-agent caching your passphrase? Is there the little key symbol
next to the mail in the sent folder?
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From berndth at gmx.de Wed Sep 12 21:07:05 2012
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 21:07:05 +0200
Subject: [Users] PDF plugin build failure with cvs47
In-Reply-To: <20120912004330.37e833f0@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20120910135628.00002aef@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120910205048.7af5792a@marv>
<20120911163452.00006dbb@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120911173925.5750c7eb@colin>
<20120911164248.00002485@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120911175137.571d72be@sleipner.datanom.net>
<20120911175727.00002ecf@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120911180938.000079bf@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120911193358.44b8745e@sleipner.datanom.net>
<20120911191902.00007571@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120912000811.4c368278@wodan>
<20120912004330.37e833f0@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20120912210705.39008dcf@wodan>
On Mi, 12.09.2012 00:43, Michael Rasmussen wrote:
>> I know next to nothing about what's needed to provide snapshots.
>>
>make dist is your friend:-)
Make dist won't magically provide snapshots to the world. But I guess
that's an infrastructure topic that can be taken off the list.
Holger
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From claws-mail_user at thehugheslogcabin.net Thu Sep 13 02:28:00 2012
From: claws-mail_user at thehugheslogcabin.net (Michael Hughes)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 19:28:00 -0500
Subject: [Users] Encrypted email
In-Reply-To: <20120912162031.4501e9fd@colin>
References: <20120911094243.516c131a@thehugheslogcabin.net>
<20120912162031.4501e9fd@colin>
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:20:31 +0200
Colin Leroy wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:42:43 -0500, Michael Hughes
> wrote:
>
> > Has something changed that local copies of encrypted email are no
> > longer encrypted?
>
> It works for me. Both with and without encrypting to self. Maybe you
> have gpg-agent caching your passphrase? Is there the little key symbol
> next to the mail in the sent folder?
>
> --
> Colin
Colin,
On the email that I don't have "Encrypt sent message with your own key
in addition to recpient's" there isn't a key next to the sent email. If
I check "Encrypt sent message with your own key in addition to
recpient's" there is a key. In the sent message file there are some
X-Claws- headers that show that it was encrypted when sent with
"Encrypt sent message with your own key in addition to recpient's" not
checked.
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From colin at colino.net Thu Sep 13 09:44:17 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 09:44:17 +0200
Subject: [Users] Encrypted email
In-Reply-To: <20120912192800.7cf110c7@thehugheslogcabin.net>
References: <20120911094243.516c131a@thehugheslogcabin.net>
<20120912162031.4501e9fd@colin>
<20120912192800.7cf110c7@thehugheslogcabin.net>
Message-ID: <20120913094417.7c3a6105@colin>
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 19:28:00 -0500, Michael Hughes
wrote:
> Colin,
> On the email that I don't have "Encrypt sent message with your own key
> in addition to recpient's" there isn't a key next to the sent email.
> If I check "Encrypt sent message with your own key in addition to
> recpient's" there is a key. In the sent message file there are some
> X-Claws- headers that show that it was encrypted when sent with
> "Encrypt sent message with your own key in addition to recpient's" not
> checked.
That's strange. Can you send me two mails (one with "Encrypt sent
message with your own key in addition to recpient's", one without,
telling me so in it) and them forward as attachment, unencrypted, these
two mails from your Sent folder?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 09:48:35 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 09:48:35 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2096] MEMORY-ERROR w/ Claws-Mail/IMAP and Lotus Domino
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--- Comment #12 from users 2012-09-13 09:48:34 ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest CVS and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://www.claws-mail.org/tracker/
2012-09-13 [colin] 3.8.1cvs55
* src/imap.c
Maybe fix bug #2096, "MEMORY-ERROR w/
Claws-Mail/IMAP and Lotus Domino". Use
correct types for start/end and test if
start is indeed before end.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 10:09:56 2012
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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 10:09:56 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2096] MEMORY-ERROR w/ Claws-Mail/IMAP and Lotus Domino
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--- Comment #13 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-13 10:09:54 ---
Hi,
I'm marking that bug as fixed because I'm confident that the extra checks will
fix the crash. Please reopen if not.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 12:29:53 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 12:29:53 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2430] Deadlock between accounts
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--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones 2012-09-13 12:29:52 ---
This is an enhancement request for parallel account retrieval, and,
fortunately, has nothing to do with deadlocks. Please retitle and set
importance accordingly.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 14:02:41 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:02:41 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2726] IMAP inactivity disconnect misinterpreted as
parse error
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--- Comment #3 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-13 14:02:40 ---
Indeed, I was mistaken. Then it seems libetpan should send us a different
return code than parse error.
Would you want to file a bug to libetpan?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 14:13:46 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:13:46 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2726] IMAP inactivity disconnect misinterpreted as
parse error
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--- Comment #4 from Ricardo Mones 2012-09-13 14:13:46 ---
Well, already done: https://github.com/dinhviethoa/libetpan/issues/42
;-)
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 20:12:15 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 20:12:15 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2630] Draft sometimes not deleted when message sent
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--- Comment #5 from J�r�me 2012-09-13 20:12:14 ---
It still happens from times to times.
I just notice this in .xsession-errors :
/home/jerome/.claws-mail/imapcache/*domain*/*account*/Drafts/111597: unlink:
Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type
The draft that should have been erased is
/home/jerome/.claws-mail/imapcache/*domain*/*account*/Drafts/111598
Don't know if this is useful.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 22:52:24 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:52:24 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2569] select html part on folder spesific properties
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--- Comment #18 from Andrej Kacian 2012-09-13 22:52:23 ---
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A per-folder option to "select HTML part" on message open
Updated the patch to work with current cvs (3.8.1cvs57).
I have noticed that our multipart parsing logic is a bit limited. The html part
of following message will not be selected automatically, because the parser is
not looking for multipart/related inside a multipart/alternative
(messageview.c, around line 1500).
multipart/alternative
text/plain
multipart/related
text/html
image/jpg
It could use a rewrite, a truly recursive parser could probably be better. Of
course, this is also outside of scope of this bug. :)
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 13 23:06:28 2012
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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 23:06:28 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2569] select html part on folder spesific properties
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A per-folder option to "select HTML part" on message open
Once again, this time a complete patch, not just for one file. Sorry about
that.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 14 09:35:15 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:35:15 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2569] select html part on folder spesific properties
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--- Comment #20 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-14 09:35:14 ---
Hi Andrej, Thanks!
Just one nitpick: I'd love to have promote_html_part as an enum so that it's
more clear which value does what. :)
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 14 13:34:13 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 13:34:13 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2717] Starting new lines of reply within a "Paste as
quotation" block results in wrong highlighting and no line wrap
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--- Comment #12 from Shlomi Fish 2012-09-14 13:34:13 ---
Hi,
any progress? Do you need anything more from me?
Regards,
-- Shlomi Fish
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From ratinox at gweep.net Fri Sep 14 16:03:10 2012
From: ratinox at gweep.net (Stainless Steel Rat)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 10:03:10 -0400
Subject: [Users] Install Claws Mail on Macintosh
Message-ID: <20120914100310.000037f7@unknown>
Simple:
Install XQuartz, Xcode and MacPorts. Install the port.
sudo port install claws-mail
Install a spelling dictionary.
sudo port install aspell-dict-en
If all goes well then you will have a working Claws Mail installation.
MacPorts does not include any extra plugins so they will need to be
compiled separately. The gtkhtml2 plugin requires the hack/fix I posted
previously or the patch I sent to Colin.
Custom variant:
Changes in how OpenSSL negotiates ciphers may render Claws Mail non-
working with some servers. The simplest fix is to compile libetpan
against GnuTLS instead of OpenSSL and compile Claws Mail against this
verison of libetpan.
Install XQuartz, Xcode and MacPorts as with the simple method. Edit the
libetpan Portfile with port edit.
sudo port edit libetpan
Add this variant section to the end of the libetpan Portfile.
variant gnutls {
depends_lib-delete port:openssl
depends_lib-append port:gnutls
configure.args-delete --with-openssl=${prefix}
configure.args-append --without-openssl --with-gnutls
}
Save the file and install the libetpan port with the +gnutls variant.
Don't worry that OpenSSL is installed. It is used by some of libetpan's
dependencies but not by libetpan itself with these options.
sudo port install libetpan +gnutls
Install the Claws Mail port and dictionary as above.
Finally, as a bit of a space-wasteful hack, Wineskin Winery has the
option of running a custom command instead of a Windows executable.
Running Claws Mail this way gives it a private X server and a real Dock
icon so it won't get in the way of other X11 applications.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 16 01:32:34 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 01:32:34 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2733] New: spell checker could not change dictionary
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2733
Summary: spell checker could not change dictionary
Product: Claws Mail
Version: 3.8.1
Platform: PC
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: Other
AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
ReportedBy: vartank25 at att.net
when I try to compose an email I get the following two message boxes in the
order that has been laid out
1. The spell checker could not change dictionary.
Couldn't initialize None dictionary:
(null)
2. The spell checker could not change the alternate dictionary.
Couldn't initialize None dictionary:
(null)
Couldn't initialize None dictionary:
(null)
The sell checker works anyhow.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 16 14:11:36 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:11:36 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1542] RSSyl forgets and re-remembers read messages
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--- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian 2012-09-16 14:11:35 ---
Michael, if you're still with us, I have fixed the "forgetting" for your
landcroft.co.uk feed, the fix should be in RSSyl 0.34, out whenever Claws Mail
has its next release.
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From florian_vignon at yahoo.fr Sun Sep 16 18:16:56 2012
From: florian_vignon at yahoo.fr (Florian)
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 18:16:56 +0200
Subject: [Users] Lazy Bogofilter
Message-ID: <20120916181656.7e9ea3a3@Guertroude>
Hello Everyone :-)
I have installed new Debian, new Claws-mail, new Bogofilter and plugin.
I have mentionned a few mails as SPAM. But now, I realize that the only
one mails that are in the trash directory are those I mentionned. No
work from bogofilter.
I have activated filtering logs to see. No message about bogofilter.
When I create a special rule to use bogofilter, it doesn't recognize
spam. Whereas the word list exists.
What is missing ?
Thank you for reading
Florian
From colin at colino.net Sun Sep 16 18:50:10 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 18:50:10 +0200
Subject: [Users] Lazy Bogofilter
In-Reply-To: <20120916181656.7e9ea3a3@Guertroude>
References: <20120916181656.7e9ea3a3@Guertroude>
Message-ID: <20120916185010.31568295@mike>
On 16 September 2012 at 18h16, Florian wrote:
Hi,
> I have activated filtering logs to see. No message about bogofilter.
> When I create a special rule to use bogofilter, it doesn't recognize
> spam. Whereas the word list exists.
>
> What is missing ?
Bogofilter wants you to designate a few "Ham" emails too, not just
spams. This makes it perform much better to know both how your good
and bad emails look like, than to only know bad email.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 16 23:08:18 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 23:08:18 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2173] Message subject encoding is assumed ISO 8859-1
instead of using charset in Content-Type header
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120916210818.4D1D3854AD@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2173
--- Comment #8 from Andrey Gursky 2012-09-16 23:08:17 ---
If the received message contains no properly formatted subject field, that
misses the used encoding, it is essential to guess one. And the best suggestion
for guess is try to look in one in Content-Type. If one was found, it is
obviously to assume that the same has been used also for the subject. So this
one should be made default_encoding for all subsequent calls to
conv_unmime_header(..., const gchar *default_encoding, ...). The argument is
just for this puprose and now is being ignored at all.
PLEASE, make use of it.
For example how this done in sylpheed:
procheader.c:
MsgInfo *procheader_parse_stream(FILE *fp, MsgFlags flags, gboolean full)
...
gchar *charset = NULL;
...
case H_SUBJECT:
if (msginfo->subject) break;
subject = g_strdup(hp);
break;
...
case H_CONTENT_TYPE:
if (!g_ascii_strncasecmp(hp, "multipart", 9)) {
MSG_SET_TMP_FLAGS(msginfo->flags, MSG_MIME);
} else if (!charset) {
procmime_scan_content_type_str
(hp, NULL, &charset, NULL, NULL);
}
break;
...
if (subject) {
msginfo->subject = conv_unmime_header(subject, charset);
subst_control(msginfo->subject, ' ');
g_free(subject);
}
...
----------------
Thanks,
Andrey
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 16 23:23:10 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 23:23:10 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2035] don't download attachments when opening mail for
reading
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120916212310.F0A29854ED@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2035
--- Comment #4 from Andrey Gursky 2012-09-16 23:23:10 ---
The absence of such an essential option makes using of claws-mail impossible on
low-bandwidth networks.
The claws-mail is a lightweight email client(?), but it does automatically
download attachments, regardless, how big they are. It's not lightweight. And
this shoots down using the advantages of IMAP for the purpose of quickly
browsing emails.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 16 23:53:48 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 23:53:48 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2035] don't download attachments when opening mail for
reading
In-Reply-To:
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--- Comment #5 from wwp 2012-09-16 23:53:48 ---
IMO you're wrong, Andrey, but your opinion might be legitimate, "lightweight"
doesn't mean made for mobile use. Claws Mail has been designed and created in a
time mobile stuff was not existing *at all*. I think it's still not addressing
it, but I'm not saying it must ignore it. Also, downloading attachments has
nothing to do with being lighweight or not, you're not focusing on the right
word and not getting it in the right (historical) context. It's lighweight in
term of power used, framework design, code weight, and runtime resources used.
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From marini.maurizio at gmail.com Mon Sep 17 11:26:17 2012
From: marini.maurizio at gmail.com (Maurizio Marini)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:26:17 +0200
Subject: [Users] 3.8.1 stop working if imap server goes down
Message-ID:
scenario
I have circa 10 imap accounts
claws 3.8.1 on fedora 17 x64
kde plasma and oxygen
when one imap server goes down claws is not able to reconnect (aftet server
is back) to it, I cant't exit as exit is greyed, I can't do anything, a
part form kill -9.
Is there a configuration that i have missed?
many thnx
-m
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From netuse at lavabit.com Mon Sep 17 14:14:51 2012
From: netuse at lavabit.com (Marco)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:14:51 +0200
Subject: [Users] Background colour of message view window
Message-ID: <20120917141451.2eec3ae9@homerow>
Hi,
is it possible to change the background colour of the message view
window? Especially in a dark environment the contrast is too high to
read and tires the eyes.
There are colour settings in the preferences. It is possible to
assign labels to the colours. However, white is not in the list and
I don't find a way to assign another colour to the message view
window.
Marco
From subscript at free.fr Mon Sep 17 14:53:16 2012
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:53:16 +0200
Subject: [Users] Background colour of message view window
In-Reply-To: <20120917141451.2eec3ae9@homerow>
References: <20120917141451.2eec3ae9@homerow>
Message-ID: <20120917145316.71595571@monolith>
Hello Marco,
On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:14:51 +0200 Marco wrote:
> Hi,
>
> is it possible to change the background colour of the message view
> window? Especially in a dark environment the contrast is too high to
> read and tires the eyes.
>
> There are colour settings in the preferences. It is possible to
> assign labels to the colours. However, white is not in the list and
> I don't find a way to assign another colour to the message view
> window.
I'm not sure it's possible to change only the message view background
color (can't remember, too lazy to check), but such color changes
happend by modifying the GTK+-2 theme, either at desktop-level or in
~/.claws-mail/gtkrc-2.0
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Sep 17 15:09:19 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:09:19 +0100
Subject: [Users] Background colour of message view window
In-Reply-To: <20120917141451.2eec3ae9@homerow>
References: <20120917141451.2eec3ae9@homerow>
Message-ID: <20120917140919.65cec762@thewildbeast>
On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:14:51 +0200
Marco wrote:
> There are colour settings in the preferences. It is possible to
> assign labels to the colours. However, white is not in the list
It appears that you don't realize that the coloured boxes are buttons
- click these and you bring up the colour selection dialogue. (Not
related directly to your query, but useful info if you don't already
know it.)
with regards
Paul
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From netuse at lavabit.com Mon Sep 17 15:11:27 2012
From: netuse at lavabit.com (Marco)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:11:27 +0200
Subject: [Users] Background colour of message view window
References: <20120917141451.2eec3ae9@homerow>
<20120917145316.71595571@monolith>
Message-ID: <20120917151127.1a56c26e@homerow>
2012-09-17 wwp :
Hi wwp
> > is it possible to change the background colour of the message view
> > window?
>
> I'm not sure it's possible to change only the message view background
> color (can't remember, too lazy to check), but such color changes
> happend by modifying the GTK+-2 theme, either at desktop-level or in
> ~/.claws-mail/gtkrc-2.0
This file is not present on my system. I assume that I have to
create it. I googled a bit for the syntax of this file, but I have
no clue what to do to get the message view window background in, say
light gray.
Marco
From netuse at lavabit.com Mon Sep 17 15:15:19 2012
From: netuse at lavabit.com (Marco)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:15:19 +0200
Subject: [Users] Background colour of message view window
References: <20120917141451.2eec3ae9@homerow>
<20120917140919.65cec762@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20120917151519.393653e9@homerow>
2012-09-17 Paul :
Hi Paul
> It appears that you don't realize that the coloured boxes are buttons
> - click these and you bring up the colour selection dialogue.
I did. The problem is that white is not in the list, unfortunately.
Thanks anyway.
Marco
From subscript at free.fr Mon Sep 17 15:22:14 2012
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:22:14 +0200
Subject: [Users] Background colour of message view window
In-Reply-To: <20120917151127.1a56c26e@homerow>
References: <20120917141451.2eec3ae9@homerow>
<20120917145316.71595571@monolith>
<20120917151127.1a56c26e@homerow>
Message-ID: <20120917152214.57766be2@monolith>
Hello Marco,
On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:11:27 +0200 Marco wrote:
> 2012-09-17 wwp :
>
> Hi wwp
>
> > > is it possible to change the background colour of the message view
> > > window?
> >
> > I'm not sure it's possible to change only the message view background
> > color (can't remember, too lazy to check), but such color changes
> > happend by modifying the GTK+-2 theme, either at desktop-level or in
> > ~/.claws-mail/gtkrc-2.0
>
> This file is not present on my system. I assume that I have to
> create it. I googled a bit for the syntax of this file, but I have
> no clue what to do to get the message view window background in, say
> light gray.
This topic comes here from time to time..
Yeah, there are system-wide GTK themes, there's a user desktop-wide
(when you run GNOME), then you can have one per gtk+ application
(usually).
Unfortunately, there's no user-friendly program to create or edit such
file intuitively. Few docs only, the GTK+ ones, google won't help much
there unless you know what you're looking for and find few samples.
Attached is my gtkrc file - dark background, now I wish you good luck
and perseverance, it caused my headaches.
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From subscript at free.fr Mon Sep 17 15:24:55 2012
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:24:55 +0200
Subject: [Users] Background colour of message view window
In-Reply-To: <20120917151519.393653e9@homerow>
References: <20120917141451.2eec3ae9@homerow>
<20120917140919.65cec762@thewildbeast>
<20120917151519.393653e9@homerow>
Message-ID: <20120917152455.40a3b78a@monolith>
Hello Marco,
On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:15:19 +0200 Marco wrote:
> 2012-09-17 Paul :
>
> Hi Paul
>
> > It appears that you don't realize that the coloured boxes are buttons
> > - click these and you bring up the colour selection dialogue.
>
> I did. The problem is that white is not in the list, unfortunately.
> Thanks anyway.
White is not a default color, right. Pick one that you want to user and
redefine it to white. Here I redefined all colors (to fit my tastes and
my GTK theme).
Anyway those colors in preferences are not made for background color
but to color the message *text* in message list. See my other reply!
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From iwkse at claws-mail.org Mon Sep 17 15:27:37 2012
From: iwkse at claws-mail.org (Salvatore De Paolis)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:27:37 +0200
Subject: [Users] Background colour of message view window
In-Reply-To: <20120917141451.2eec3ae9@homerow>
References: <20120917141451.2eec3ae9@homerow>
Message-ID: <20120917152737.59371164@net24.it>
Hi Marco,
On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:14:51 +0200
Marco wrote:
> Hi,
>
> is it possible to change the background colour of the message view
> window?
That's about changing your gtk2 theme, so it means you'll see such
change in all applications that use this widget.
You have to search for TextView, because the message view window
is that widget.
Checking the wwp gtkrc file, pay attention do this:
class "*Text*" style "text_sand_dark_reverse"
If you change the class text_sand_dark_reverse you can also change
the colour of the background:
hint: bg[NORMAL] = "#ececec"
HTH
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From netuse at lavabit.com Mon Sep 17 15:42:51 2012
From: netuse at lavabit.com (Marco)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:42:51 +0200
Subject: [Users] Background colour of message view window
References: <20120917141451.2eec3ae9@homerow>
<20120917145316.71595571@monolith>
<20120917151127.1a56c26e@homerow>
<20120917152214.57766be2@monolith>
Message-ID: <20120917154251.0935f780@homerow>
2012-09-17 wwp :
Hi wwp
> > This file is not present on my system. I assume that I have to
> > create it. I googled a bit for the syntax of this file, but I have
> > no clue what to do to get the message view window background in, say
> > light gray.
>
> This topic comes here from time to time..
>
> Yeah, there are system-wide GTK themes, there's a user desktop-wide
> (when you run GNOME), then you can have one per gtk+ application
> (usually).
>
> Unfortunately, there's no user-friendly program to create or edit such
> file intuitively. Few docs only, the GTK+ ones, google won't help much
> there unless you know what you're looking for and find few samples.
>
> Attached is my gtkrc file - dark background, now I wish you good luck
> and perseverance, it caused my headaches.
Thanks a lot. I changed a few colour values and now it's perfect. I
didn't think it's that easy.
Marco
From florian_vignon at yahoo.fr Mon Sep 17 20:51:04 2012
From: florian_vignon at yahoo.fr (Florian)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:51:04 +0200
Subject: [Users] Lazy Bogofilter
In-Reply-To: <20120916185010.31568295@mike>
References: <20120916181656.7e9ea3a3@Guertroude> <20120916185010.31568295@mike>
Message-ID: <20120917205104.3b684d39@Guertroude>
Hello!
Great! I've marked any 3-4 messages as ham. Nothing changed in the
display of them. But now, everything looks working fine.
Thank you.
Florian
Le Sun, 16 Sep 2012 18:50:10 +0200,
Colin Leroy a écrit :
> On 16 September 2012 at 18h16, Florian wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > I have activated filtering logs to see. No message about bogofilter.
> > When I create a special rule to use bogofilter, it doesn't recognize
> > spam. Whereas the word list exists.
> >
> > What is missing ?
>
> Bogofilter wants you to designate a few "Ham" emails too, not just
> spams. This makes it perform much better to know both how your good
> and bad emails look like, than to only know bad email.
>
> HTH,
From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 18:26:34 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:26:34 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2035] don't download attachments when opening mail for
reading
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120918162634.7089A853FE@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2035
--- Comment #6 from Andrey Gursky 2012-09-18 18:26:32 ---
>"lightweight" doesn't mean made for mobile use
Have I mentioned "mobile use"? I'm writing this on my desktop PC connected to
the internet through ISDN telephone line.
>Claws Mail has been designed and created in a time mobile stuff was not existing *at all*.
What time do you mean, when there were no internet-aware mobile phones *at
all*, but all have got broadband internet access? Where is the plain old
telephone line gone?
>It's lighweight in term of power used, framework design, code weight, and runtime resources used.
And I'm speaking about runtime resources: network capacity or internet traffic.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 18:27:49 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:27:49 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2173] Message subject encoding is assumed ISO 8859-1
instead of using charset in Content-Type header
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120918162750.1A3C2853FE@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2173
--- Comment #9 from Andrey Gursky 2012-09-18 18:27:49 ---
Is it not possible to reopen this bug?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Sep 18 18:36:53 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:36:53 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2035] don't download attachments when opening mail for
reading
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120918163653.98D47854AF@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2035
--- Comment #7 from wwp 2012-09-18 18:36:53 ---
You're right Andrey, you didn't mention mobile use at all. I had this in mind,
because in terms of UI limitations and network bandwidth limitations, it's the
only case where I can see CM as not being mandatorily adapted (I'm not saying
that it cannot be used, but it's not really designed for that kind of use, even
if improvements have been done, tagetting small-screen devices).
I was running Claws Mail in its former shape 10 years ago, when network was
without comparison and in way worse conditions, and IIRC neither me or other
people was finding this application *not* lightweight, whatever the meaning of
the word. Now that machines have super powers and that network bandwidth has
exploded, I hardly see how such critizism can be pertinent.
What I'am saying is that your current and precise argument is (to me), useless.
Now, about the possibility to optionally skip downloading attachements. I have
no clue how this can be done but I can admit that it might may sense for some,
and I see that as a pertinent request for feature/enhancement.
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From slitt at troubleshooters.com Wed Sep 19 00:46:22 2012
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:46:22 -0400
Subject: [Users] Anyone using Claws-Mail on FreeBSD?
Message-ID: <20120918184622.6da51f3b@mydesk>
Hi all,
Is anyone using Claws-Mail on FreeBSD? Mine didn't compile, and before
I spend lots of time trying to make it work, I want to see if anyone
else has it working.
Thanks
SteveT
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From claws-mail_user at thehugheslogcabin.net Wed Sep 19 01:53:15 2012
From: claws-mail_user at thehugheslogcabin.net (Michael Hughes)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:53:15 -0500
Subject: [Users] Anyone using Claws-Mail on FreeBSD?
In-Reply-To: <20120918184622.6da51f3b@mydesk>
References: <20120918184622.6da51f3b@mydesk>
Message-ID: <20120918185315.17227c17@thehugheslogcabin.net>
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:46:22 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Is anyone using Claws-Mail on FreeBSD? Mine didn't compile, and before
> I spend lots of time trying to make it work, I want to see if anyone
> else has it working.
>
> Thanks
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/
> * http://twitter.com/stevelitt
> Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance
>
I compile from source, but I have also used the ports version. What
version of FreeBSD are you using and what type of error are you
getting?
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From freebsd at grem.de Wed Sep 19 01:58:42 2012
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 01:58:42 +0200
Subject: [Users] Anyone using Claws-Mail on FreeBSD?
In-Reply-To: <20120918184622.6da51f3b@mydesk>
References: <20120918184622.6da51f3b@mydesk>
Message-ID:
On 19 Sep 2012, at 00:46, Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Is anyone using Claws-Mail on FreeBSD? Mine didn't compile, and before
> I spend lots of time trying to make it work, I want to see if anyone
> else has it working.
>
> Thanks
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/
> * http://twitter.com/stevelitt
> Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance
>
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
Yes, should work without problems.
Could you post:
- output of: uname -a
- output of: pkg_info
- complete compile output of the failed build
- content of /etc/make.conf
Michael
From sylpheed at 911networks.com Wed Sep 19 02:17:47 2012
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 17:17:47 -0700
Subject: [Users] Link open in browser
Message-ID: <20120918171747.22069a38@from-theboss.911networks.com>
Hi,
I must be doing something wrong. When right clicking on a link it
doesn't open it in the web browser:
xUbuntu 12.04, Firefox 15.0.1, CM 3.8.1
In Configuration > Preferences > External programs, I have:
/usr/bin/firefox --newtab %s
It opens a new tab, but it's blank and does not open the link.
What am I doing wrong?
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From iwkse at claws-mail.org Wed Sep 19 02:25:36 2012
From: iwkse at claws-mail.org (Salvatore De Paolis)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 02:25:36 +0200
Subject: [Users] Link open in browser
In-Reply-To: <20120918171747.22069a38@from-theboss.911networks.com>
References: <20120918171747.22069a38@from-theboss.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20120919022536.6b710a8f@net24.it>
Hi sylpheed at 911networks.com,
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 17:17:47 -0700
sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:
> In Configuration > Preferences > External programs, I have:
>
> /usr/bin/firefox --newtab %s
Is not that option -new-tab?
--
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From ethy.brito at inexo.com.br Wed Sep 19 02:25:31 2012
From: ethy.brito at inexo.com.br (Ethy H. Brito)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:25:31 -0300
Subject: [Users] Link open in browser
In-Reply-To: <20120918171747.22069a38@from-theboss.911networks.com>
References: <20120918171747.22069a38@from-theboss.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20120918212531.53308130@babalu>
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 17:17:47 -0700
sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I must be doing something wrong. When right clicking on a link it
> doesn't open it in the web browser:
>
> xUbuntu 12.04, Firefox 15.0.1, CM 3.8.1
>
> In Configuration > Preferences > External programs, I have:
>
> /usr/bin/firefox --newtab %s
Hi!
Please try:
firefox -remote 'openURL(%s,new-tab)'
Cheers
Ethy
>
> It opens a new tab, but it's blank and does not open the link.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> --
> Thanks
> http://www.911networks.com
> When the network has to work
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From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Wed Sep 19 05:52:49 2012
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:52:49 -0600
Subject: [Users] Link open in browser
In-Reply-To: <20120918171747.22069a38@from-theboss.911networks.com>
References: <20120918171747.22069a38@from-theboss.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20120918215249.312c363a@yendi.localdomain>
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 17:17:47 -0700
sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:
> I must be doing something wrong. When right clicking on a link it
> doesn't open it in the web browser:
Don't right click. Left click.
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From slitt at troubleshooters.com Wed Sep 19 09:11:25 2012
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 03:11:25 -0400
Subject: [Users] Anyone using Claws-Mail on FreeBSD?
In-Reply-To:
References: <20120918184622.6da51f3b@mydesk>
Message-ID: <20120919031125.1c03c80a@mydesk>
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 01:58:42 +0200, Michael Gmelin said:
>
>
> On 19 Sep 2012, at 00:46, Steve Litt
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Is anyone using Claws-Mail on FreeBSD? Mine didn't compile, and
> > before I spend lots of time trying to make it work, I want to see
> > if anyone else has it working.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > SteveT
> >
> > Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/
> > * http://twitter.com/stevelitt
> > Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Users mailing list
> > Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
>
> Yes, should work without problems.
>
> Could you post:
> - output of: uname -a
> - output of: pkg_info
> - complete compile output of the failed build
> - content of /etc/make.conf
>
> Michael
Thanks Michael and Michael,
Once I found out that yes, it's possible, I got Claws working in
FreeBSD. I have just one more problem. On my FreeBSD machine, the
folders sort first by uppercase letters and then by lowercase, instead
of sorting case insensitively. Does Claws have a setting to make them
sort case insensitively?
Thanks
SteveT
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Wed Sep 19 09:27:03 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 08:27:03 +0100
Subject: [Users] Rssyl 0.33cvs6 build failure
Message-ID: <20120919082703.6145dee7@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
The change to make folder searching work seems to have broken
something, looked like a variable declaration mismatch:
rssyl.c: In function 'rssyl_folder_get_class':
rssyl.c:662:14: error: 'FolderClass' has no member named 'search_msgs'
rssyl.c:662:29: error: 'folder_item_search_msgs_local' undeclared (first use in this function)
rssyl.c:662:29: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in
make[2]: *** [rssyl.lo] Error 1
HTH
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From colin at colino.net Wed Sep 19 09:30:26 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:30:26 +0200
Subject: [Users] Rssyl 0.33cvs6 build failure
In-Reply-To: <20120919082703.6145dee7@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20120919082703.6145dee7@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20120919093026.3ee5ba98@mike>
On 19 September 2012 at 08h27, Brian Morrison wrote:
Hi,
> The change to make folder searching work seems to have broken
> something, looked like a variable declaration mismatch:
Yes, I'm in the process of fixing it. In fact that's just an early
patch that depends on a big patch to core which isn't in yet.
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Wed Sep 19 11:22:40 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 10:22:40 +0100
Subject: [Users] Rssyl 0.33cvs6 build failure
In-Reply-To: <20120919093026.3ee5ba98@mike>
References: <20120919082703.6145dee7@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
<20120919093026.3ee5ba98@mike>
Message-ID: <20120919102240.000002c1@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:30:26 +0200
Colin Leroy wrote:
> On 19 September 2012 at 08h27, Brian Morrison wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > The change to make folder searching work seems to have broken
> > something, looked like a variable declaration mismatch:
>
> Yes, I'm in the process of fixing it. In fact that's just an early
> patch that depends on a big patch to core which isn't in yet.
>
Oh right, I thought it was just a minor tweak that had been missed out.
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From freebsd at grem.de Wed Sep 19 11:27:21 2012
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:27:21 +0200
Subject: [Users] Anyone using Claws-Mail on FreeBSD?
In-Reply-To: <20120919031125.1c03c80a@mydesk>
References: <20120918184622.6da51f3b@mydesk>
<20120919031125.1c03c80a@mydesk>
Message-ID: <20120919112721.61050bf8@bsd64.grem.de>
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 03:11:25 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 01:58:42 +0200, Michael Gmelin said:
> >
> >
> > On 19 Sep 2012, at 00:46, Steve Litt
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Is anyone using Claws-Mail on FreeBSD? Mine didn't compile, and
> > > before I spend lots of time trying to make it work, I want to see
> > > if anyone else has it working.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > SteveT
> > >
> > > Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/
> > > * http://twitter.com/stevelitt
> > > Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Users mailing list
> > > Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> > > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
> >
> > Yes, should work without problems.
> >
> > Could you post:
> > - output of: uname -a
> > - output of: pkg_info
> > - complete compile output of the failed build
> > - content of /etc/make.conf
> >
> > Michael
>
> Thanks Michael and Michael,
>
> Once I found out that yes, it's possible, I got Claws working in
> FreeBSD. I have just one more problem. On my FreeBSD machine, the
> folders sort first by uppercase letters and then by lowercase, instead
> of sorting case insensitively. Does Claws have a setting to make them
> sort case insensitively?
>
Hi Steve,
Did you set a valid locale? Try the following in a terminal window to
start claws and see if it makes a difference:
export LANG=en_US.UTF-8
claws-mail
- Michael
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 12:34:43 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:34:43 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2173] Message subject encoding is assumed ISO 8859-1
instead of using charset in Content-Type header
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120919103443.D81C2853B2@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2173
Michael Orlov changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED
Resolution|INVALID |
--- Comment #10 from Michael Orlov 2012-09-19 12:34:42 ---
Reopened, as requested.
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From jerry at seibercom.net Wed Sep 19 13:06:27 2012
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 07:06:27 -0400
Subject: [Users] Anyone using Claws-Mail on FreeBSD?
In-Reply-To: <20120918184622.6da51f3b@mydesk>
References: <20120918184622.6da51f3b@mydesk>
Message-ID: <20120919070627.060cef22@scorpio>
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:46:22 -0400
Steve Litt articulated:
> Is anyone using Claws-Mail on FreeBSD? Mine didn't compile, and before
> I spend lots of time trying to make it work, I want to see if anyone
> else has it working.
I am using it right now and have used it for over five years. Could you
please post more info on your environment and what errors you are
receiving.
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From slitt at troubleshooters.com Wed Sep 19 18:41:58 2012
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:41:58 -0400
Subject: [Users] Anyone using Claws-Mail on FreeBSD?
In-Reply-To: <20120919070627.060cef22@scorpio>
References: <20120918184622.6da51f3b@mydesk> <20120919070627.060cef22@scorpio>
Message-ID: <20120919124158.439f07dd@mydesk>
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 07:06:27 -0400, Jerry said:
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:46:22 -0400
> Steve Litt articulated:
>
> > Is anyone using Claws-Mail on FreeBSD? Mine didn't compile, and
> > before I spend lots of time trying to make it work, I want to see
> > if anyone else has it working.
>
> I am using it right now and have used it for over five years. Could
> you please post more info on your environment and what errors you are
> receiving.
>
> --
> Jerry ♔
Thanks Jerry,
Once you and several other people emailed me saying they used Claws in
FreeBSD, I knew it was possible and worth the time to fix it, so I
fixed it.
The symptom was the compile errored out saying TLS conflicted with SSL.
The problem was defective user. Being a Linux guy, I automatically had
just enough FreeBSD knowledge to make me dangerous.
I had selected TLS from one of those ncurses screens, and forever
afterward, no combination of make clean, make distclean and make could
bring back the ncurses screen so I could say I didn't want TLS.
Finally a guy from my LUG told me about make rmconfig-recursive, and
BANG, the thing compiled and worked.
As a side note, having nothing to do with Claws-Mail, for me, using
FreeBSD is like one of those weird dreams in which you know you've been
here before, you kinda-sorta know your way around, but things have
changed. And oh-by-the-way, as if FreeBSD weren't enough of a change,
on my FreeBSD machine I'm using the Awesome window manager instead of
my customary Xfce. From my perspective, Awesome is to Xfce as a stick
shift is to an automatic.
By the way, Claws works very nicely in Awesome :-)
If any of you will be anywhere near Central Florida on 9/22/2012, be
sure to stop by the OpenSuSE Summit's LUG reunion:
http://summit.opensuse.org/news/2012/09-11-summit_saturday_is_lug_day/
I'll have both my Ubuntu laptop and my experimental FreeBSD laptop
there and will be fooling around with them. Both Orlando LUGs, the
Jacksonville LUG, and I hope some more LUGs will be there.
Thanks to all of you for all your help.
SteveT
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From freebsd at grem.de Wed Sep 19 18:52:59 2012
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:52:59 +0200
Subject: [Users] Anyone using Claws-Mail on FreeBSD?
In-Reply-To: <20120919124158.439f07dd@mydesk>
References: <20120918184622.6da51f3b@mydesk> <20120919070627.060cef22@scorpio>
<20120919124158.439f07dd@mydesk>
Message-ID: <20120919185259.641683bc@bsd64.grem.de>
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:41:58 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 07:06:27 -0400, Jerry said:
> > On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:46:22 -0400
> > Steve Litt articulated:
> >
> > > Is anyone using Claws-Mail on FreeBSD? Mine didn't compile, and
> > > before I spend lots of time trying to make it work, I want to see
> > > if anyone else has it working.
> >
> > I am using it right now and have used it for over five years. Could
> > you please post more info on your environment and what errors you
> > are receiving.
> >
> > --
> > Jerry ♔
>
> Thanks Jerry,
>
> Once you and several other people emailed me saying they used Claws in
> FreeBSD, I knew it was possible and worth the time to fix it, so I
> fixed it.
>
> The symptom was the compile errored out saying TLS conflicted with
> SSL. The problem was defective user. Being a Linux guy, I
> automatically had just enough FreeBSD knowledge to make me dangerous.
>
> I had selected TLS from one of those ncurses screens, and forever
> afterward, no combination of make clean, make distclean and make could
> bring back the ncurses screen so I could say I didn't want TLS.
> Finally a guy from my LUG told me about make rmconfig-recursive, and
> BANG, the thing compiled and worked.
Side note:
Those options are stored in /var/db/ports/PORTNAME/options. You can
always remove them to start over (well, that's basically what "make
rmconfig" does). Backing up that directory can be useful to reproduce
your setup at a later point in time.
Also using "make config" in any port's home directory brings up the
configuration screen up for that port again within losing previously
selected options. "make config-recursive" brings up all configuration
screens for a dependencies (useful if you want to do a batch install,
but still be able to tweak various settings).
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 20:57:24 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:57:24 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2430] Slow accounts blocking interface
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120919185724.F206E8556F@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2430
Bruno changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Summary|Deadlock between accounts |Slow accounts blocking
| |interface
--- Comment #2 from Bruno 2012-09-19 20:57:24 ---
Ricardo, I don't really agree that this is just enhancement, it's more severe
than that when on account is just unreachable.
When scanning mailboxes at 10 minutes interval with one unreachable (as in
connection timing out) account Claws-mail is near-unsable for half of the time!
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From slitt at troubleshooters.com Wed Sep 19 21:23:22 2012
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:23:22 -0400
Subject: [Users] Anyone using Claws-Mail on FreeBSD?
In-Reply-To: <20120919185259.641683bc@bsd64.grem.de>
References: <20120918184622.6da51f3b@mydesk> <20120919070627.060cef22@scorpio>
<20120919124158.439f07dd@mydesk>
<20120919185259.641683bc@bsd64.grem.de>
Message-ID: <20120919152322.5f15a2bd@mydesk>
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:52:59 +0200, Michael Gmelin said:
>
>
> On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:41:58 -0400
> Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 07:06:27 -0400, Jerry said:
> > > On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:46:22 -0400
> > > Steve Litt articulated:
> > >
> > > > Is anyone using Claws-Mail on FreeBSD? Mine didn't compile, and
> > > > before I spend lots of time trying to make it work, I want to
> > > > see if anyone else has it working.
> > >
> > > I am using it right now and have used it for over five years.
> > > Could you please post more info on your environment and what
> > > errors you are receiving.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jerry ♔
> >
> > Thanks Jerry,
> >
> > Once you and several other people emailed me saying they used Claws
> > in FreeBSD, I knew it was possible and worth the time to fix it, so
> > I fixed it.
> >
> > The symptom was the compile errored out saying TLS conflicted with
> > SSL. The problem was defective user. Being a Linux guy, I
> > automatically had just enough FreeBSD knowledge to make me
> > dangerous.
> >
> > I had selected TLS from one of those ncurses screens, and forever
> > afterward, no combination of make clean, make distclean and make
> > could bring back the ncurses screen so I could say I didn't want
> > TLS. Finally a guy from my LUG told me about make
> > rmconfig-recursive, and BANG, the thing compiled and worked.
>
> Side note:
>
> Those options are stored in /var/db/ports/PORTNAME/options. You can
> always remove them to start over (well, that's basically what "make
> rmconfig" does). Backing up that directory can be useful to reproduce
> your setup at a later point in time.
>
> Also using "make config" in any port's home directory brings up the
> configuration screen up for that port again within losing previously
> selected options. "make config-recursive" brings up all configuration
> screens for a dependencies (useful if you want to do a batch install,
> but still be able to tweak various settings).
Thanks Michael,
I'll do that next time. At least make config. The recursive option
might give me so much as to confuse me, although I could always make
rmconfig-recursive if I blew a make config-recursive.
I feel really dumb every time someone tells me a simple answer to
seemingly complex FreeBSD problems I've been having.
SteveT
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 19 22:30:47 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 22:30:47 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2430] Slow accounts blocking interface
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120919203048.0A851853BF@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2430
--- Comment #3 from Ricardo Mones 2012-09-19 22:30:47 ---
Parallel retrieval it's not a Claws Mail feature, so, no matter how severe
lacking it is in your personal environment or in any other, it's still an
enhancement for Claws Mail.
Try to use fetchmail or a similar program which runs as a background task to
download the mails from the unreliable connected machines to your local box.
Then use Claws Mail to filter and read them locally. This way at least Claws
Mail won't be blocked by network failures.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 20 17:23:19 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:23:19 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2734] New: hangs when requesting 'help()' in python
plugin console
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2734
Summary: hangs when requesting 'help()' in python plugin
console
Product: Claws Mail
Version: CVS
Platform: PC
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: blocker
Priority: P3
Component: Other
AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
ReportedBy: mones at users.sourceforge.net
Created an attachment (id=1160)
--> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1160)
Backtrace after interrupted while hang
As described in summary steps to reproduce are very simple:
* Launch Claws Mail
* Select Tools/Show Python console...
(the console correctly opens)
* Type "help()" in the console (without the quotes)
Currently this hangs Claws Mail, which stops responding, having to kill it to
exit.
If run under gdb and interrupted while hang, the attached backtrace is
obtained.
Python version seems to be 2.7, from console itself:
>>> print sys.version_info
sys.version_info(major=2, minor=7, micro=3, releaselevel='final', serial=0)
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 20 21:42:37 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 21:42:37 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2734] hangs when requesting 'help()' in python plugin
console
In-Reply-To:
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2734
Holger Berndt changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Severity|blocker |normal
--- Comment #1 from Holger Berndt 2012-09-20 21:42:37 ---
Hm, works for me (with identical Python version).
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From ratinox at gweep.net Thu Sep 20 22:11:23 2012
From: ratinox at gweep.net (Stainless Steel Rat)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:11:23 -0400
Subject: [Users] Unix domain socket directory
Message-ID: <20120920161123.00000b96@unknown>
On startup, Claws Mail tries to create a Unix domain socket in $TMPDIR.
The --alternate-config-dir option overrides this directory and causes
Claws Mail to try to create the socket in the specified directory. This
fails if the file system does not support Unix domain sockets. Examples
include the FAT family (such as USB flash drives for portable mail
storage) and EncFS (for encrypted storage).
Is the --alternate-config-dir override of the default socket directory
a bug? Or is this working as intended making an --alternate-socket-dir
option an enhancement?
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From subscript at free.fr Fri Sep 21 00:09:25 2012
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 00:09:25 +0200
Subject: [Users] Unix domain socket directory
In-Reply-To: <20120920161123.00000b96@unknown>
References: <20120920161123.00000b96@unknown>
Message-ID: <20120921000925.63e07528@monolith>
Hello Stainless Steel Rat,
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:11:23 -0400 Stainless Steel Rat wrote:
> On startup, Claws Mail tries to create a Unix domain socket in $TMPDIR.
> The --alternate-config-dir option overrides this directory and causes
> Claws Mail to try to create the socket in the specified directory. This
> fails if the file system does not support Unix domain sockets. Examples
> include the FAT family (such as USB flash drives for portable mail
> storage) and EncFS (for encrypted storage).
>
> Is the --alternate-config-dir override of the default socket directory
> a bug? Or is this working as intended making an --alternate-socket-dir
> option an enhancement?
I may miss something, but according to my knowledge,
--alternate-config-dir is just to use another config dir but the
default ~/.claws-mail. It should not change the location for sockets.
IOW, a bug.
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From rcook at pcug.org.au Fri Sep 21 02:59:17 2012
From: rcook at pcug.org.au (Owen)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:59:17 +1000
Subject: [Users] possible bug w/ f17: body area read-only after clicking
identities picking list
In-Reply-To: <20120905102051.69b213af@ext.math.umass.edu>
References:
<20120905090254.4fcc11d0@thewildbeast>
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On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 10:20:51 -0400
George Avrunin wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 12:56:40 +0200, Maurizio Marini
> wrote:
>
> > Hello Owen and Paul
> >
> >
> > > Compose a new message
> > > make a To address
> > > change the next address to Cc
> > >
> > > Now I am unable to input anything into the Cc line
> > >
> >
> > the same issue here
> > you are right, there is someting wrong with fedora 17 gtk
> > implementation
> >
> >
> > many thnx
> > -m
>
> I'm not seeing this, but I've had some similar issues in the past on
> KDE with oxygen-gtk bugs (the last time I noticed was in late July).
> I've (at least for now) given up on the oxygen theme for that (KDE
> Settings -> Application Appearance -> GTK+ Appearance) and switched
> to Adwaita, and I'm not having the problem now. I think I'm cc'd on
> what looked like a relevant bug in the Fedora Bugzilla, but I can't
> find the number right now.
Sorry about the delay, but I have just now changed the theme from
'oxygen-gtk' to 'simple' and all is well again.
Thanks for the clue, definitely not a Claws related problem
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From ricardo at mones.org Fri Sep 21 09:19:37 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:19:37 +0200
Subject: [Users] Unix domain socket directory
In-Reply-To: <20120921000925.63e07528@monolith>
References: <20120920161123.00000b96@unknown>
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 00:09:25 +0200
wwp wrote:
> > Is the --alternate-config-dir override of the default socket directory
> > a bug? Or is this working as intended making an --alternate-socket-dir
> > option an enhancement?
>
> I may miss something, but according to my knowledge,
> --alternate-config-dir is just to use another config dir but the
> default ~/.claws-mail. It should not change the location for sockets.
> IOW, a bug.
I think that's intended, IOW, not a bug ;) otherwise the same user could
not launch two (or more) Claws Mail instances one with default and the
second (and additional ones) with --alternate-config-dir, defeating the
very purpose of that option.
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From subscript at free.fr Fri Sep 21 09:29:09 2012
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:29:09 +0200
Subject: [Users] Unix domain socket directory
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Hello Ricardo,
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:19:37 +0200 Ricardo Mones wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 00:09:25 +0200
> wwp wrote:
>
> > > Is the --alternate-config-dir override of the default socket directory
> > > a bug? Or is this working as intended making an --alternate-socket-dir
> > > option an enhancement?
> >
> > I may miss something, but according to my knowledge,
> > --alternate-config-dir is just to use another config dir but the
> > default ~/.claws-mail. It should not change the location for sockets.
> > IOW, a bug.
>
> I think that's intended, IOW, not a bug ;) otherwise the same user could
> not launch two (or more) Claws Mail instances one with default and the
> second (and additional ones) with --alternate-config-dir, defeating the
> very purpose of that option.
Ahh yes, I remember that now!
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From colin at colino.net Fri Sep 21 09:31:38 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:31:38 +0200
Subject: [Users] Unix domain socket directory
In-Reply-To: <20120921091937.1594fd47@busgosu.mones.org>
References: <20120920161123.00000b96@unknown>
<20120921000925.63e07528@monolith>
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Message-ID: <20120921093138.4d5bf376@colin>
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:19:37 +0200, Ricardo Mones
wrote:
Hi,
> I think that's intended, IOW, not a bug ;) otherwise the same user
> could not launch two (or more) Claws Mail instances one with default
> and the second (and additional ones) with --alternate-config-dir,
> defeating the very purpose of that option.
Yes, that's the goal indeed.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 21 09:49:46 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:49:46 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2734] hangs when requesting 'help()' in python plugin
console
In-Reply-To:
References:
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2734
--- Comment #2 from Ricardo Mones 2012-09-21 09:49:45 ---
After googling a bit seems it could be a known python 2.7 bug caused by corrupt
modules: http://bugs.python.org/issue10060
But trying the same after launching python directly works as intended:
-------------------------------------------
$ python
Python 2.7.3 (default, Jun 15 2012, 15:26:07)
[GCC 4.7.0] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> help()
Welcome to Python 2.7! This is the online help utility.
If this is your first time using Python, you should definitely check out
the tutorial on the Internet at http://docs.python.org/2.7/tutorial/.
Enter the name of any module, keyword, or topic to get help on writing
Python programs and using Python modules. To quit this help utility and
return to the interpreter, just type "quit".
To get a list of available modules, keywords, or topics, type "modules",
"keywords", or "topics". Each module also comes with a one-line summary
of what it does; to list the modules whose summaries contain a given word
such as "spam", type "modules spam".
help>
-------------------------------------------
So it must be something the python plugin adds... any idea?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 21 10:07:26 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:07:26 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2735] New: clawsmail doesn't show the date column
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2735
Summary: clawsmail doesn't show the date column
Product: Claws Mail
Version: 3.8.1
Platform: PC
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: major
Priority: P3
Component: UI/Message List
AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
ReportedBy: basseed at gmail.com
clawsmail doesn't show the date column (and possibly other columns) when the
three columns view layout is selected. The only columns displayed are Mark,
Status, Attachments, Subject and Size. The Date column is selected, along with
the from column, in the view settings. The from column is missing too.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 21 14:06:28 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:06:28 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2735] clawsmail doesn't show the date column
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--- Comment #1 from Pierre Fortin 2012-09-21 14:06:28 ---
Was about to suggest changing window/pane widths; but I can confirm this on
3.8.1cvs63
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 21 14:18:06 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:18:06 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2735] clawsmail doesn't show the date column
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Colin Leroy changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution| |INVALID
--- Comment #2 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-21 14:18:06 ---
This is because Date and From are written in the second line.
You can have it on columns in the same line with the hidden preference
"two_line_vertical=0" as explained in the manual
(http://www.claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html)
You can edit hidden preferences manually, or with Clawsker, when Claws is not
running.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 21 14:51:56 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:51:56 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2736] New: Summary column widths difficult to set
(minimum widths?)
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2736
Summary: Summary column widths difficult to set (minimum
widths?)
Product: Claws Mail
Version: CVS
Platform: PC
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: enhancement
Priority: P3
Component: UI/Message List
AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
ReportedBy: pf at pfortin.com
Was playing with settings as in bug 2735; and now I can't restore columns back
to my original widths in Standard view. There now seems to be a minimum width
for date, size, etc and can't restore these without triggering horizontal
scrolling which I don't want.
Backed up clawsrc, closed CM, restored clawsrc from backup, restarted CM; but
this did not restore my original widths, so now I have columns with lots of
whitespace wasting screen real-estate...
Interesting... added an extra column at right, now I can change column widths
to desired size using the right side of columns, whereas it's not possible
otherwise.
Ah-ha! There are left & right resize handles; but they 'seem' to be about
1-pixel wide and 1-pixel apart, aka VERY difficult to grab the correct one.
A right-click menu with "Column Width..." (other options?) a la oocalc would be
appreciated.
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From ratinox at gweep.net Fri Sep 21 16:58:57 2012
From: ratinox at gweep.net (ratinox at gweep.net)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:58:57 -0400
Subject: [Users] Unix domain socket directory
In-Reply-To: <20120921093138.4d5bf376@colin>
References: <20120920161123.00000b96@unknown>
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<20120921093138.4d5bf376@colin>
Message-ID: <20120921105857.00003c3e@unknown>
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:31:38 +0200
Colin Leroy wrote:
> Yes, that's the goal indeed.
So, it's working as intended but with some consequences in atypical
environments.
Is a --alternate-socket-dir option worth having beyond my own needs?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 21 20:45:03 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 20:45:03 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2735] clawsmail doesn't show the date column
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basseed at gmail.com changed:
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Resolution|INVALID |
--- Comment #3 from basseed 2012-09-21 20:45:03 ---
Yes but how can I order my list by date if I have no date column?
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 21 21:39:51 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:39:51 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2735] clawsmail doesn't show the date column
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Colin Leroy changed:
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Resolution| |INVALID
--- Comment #4 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-21 21:39:51 ---
USe the menu View/Sort.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 21 21:46:41 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:46:41 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2735] clawsmail doesn't show the date column
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basseed at gmail.com changed:
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Resolution|INVALID |
--- Comment #5 from basseed 2012-09-21 21:46:40 ---
You are right. i tried the two_line_vertical=0 in my configuration file, but
still it doesn't show the date column in the message list.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 21 21:50:36 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:50:36 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2735] clawsmail doesn't show the date column
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Colin Leroy changed:
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--- Comment #6 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-21 21:50:36 ---
Maybe it is at the right. If not, check the displayed columns via View/Set
displayed column. Also can you stop reopening this bug report, please? This is
not a bug, if you want to discuss the subject please do so on the users'
mailing list.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 21 21:57:53 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:57:53 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2735] clawsmail doesn't show the date column
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basseed at gmail.com changed:
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Resolution|INVALID |
--- Comment #7 from basseed 2012-09-21 21:57:53 ---
I agree with you that this wasn't a bug, but if setting the option
two_line_vertical to 0 in the clawsrc file should have displayed the date
column in the message list, with the three column layout, I guess there is a
bug after all, because I can't do it. I checked both into the preferences and
via the view/set columns menu, and it is included in the list.
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From horsley1953 at gmail.com Sat Sep 22 02:17:22 2012
From: horsley1953 at gmail.com (Tom Horsley)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 20:17:22 -0400
Subject: [Users] Command line password update?
Message-ID: <20120921201722.336c600c@zooty>
I'm getting tired of running around to all the programs that
remember the password I'm forced to change every 3 months
and changing them individually.
One of the programs I have to change is a claws-mail
SMTP password for one account.
Is there a command line option I can use to change a
saved password so I could write a script to automate
the change?
Or is there some standard crypto tool I can use to
generate the string that I see stored in the
accountrc file?
From gbonnema at xs4all.nl Sat Sep 22 04:37:03 2012
From: gbonnema at xs4all.nl (Guus Bonnema)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 04:37:03 +0200
Subject: [Users] Command line password update?
In-Reply-To: <20120921201722.336c600c@zooty>
References: <20120921201722.336c600c@zooty>
Message-ID: <20120922043703.1b23f8f7@mahatma>
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 20:17:22 -0400
Tom Horsley wrote:
> I'm getting tired of running around to all the programs that
> remember the password I'm forced to change every 3 months
> and changing them individually.
Some time ago a friend of mine had his personal computer stolen. Of course he
had most applications remember the passwords, like you do. Result was: his email
account was purged of emails, his bank account was accessed, other accounts were
accessed and damaged. It was by no means easy to recover all that was lost and
he didnt manage to recover fully.
Since then I have stored all my passwords in a central, encrypted file using
truecrypt and password + key files. This allows me to change any password I
want only in 2 places: the server concerned and the encrypted file.
When logging on I use the encrypted file and copy and paste. For convenience I
have yakuake installed so the terminal is always a F12 click away, no matter
which application I am on. grep+copy+paste does the job. And I do not have to
remember any passwords.
The best I can do if the program supports it is remembering for a session,
which lasts until I shut the application is down.
Be careful to backup the file encrypted, plus the keyfiles.
There might be an easier way to do this but I haven't found it yet.
Guus.
From jerry at seibercom.net Sat Sep 22 14:23:00 2012
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 08:23:00 -0400
Subject: [Users] Command line password update?
In-Reply-To: <20120922043703.1b23f8f7@mahatma>
References: <20120921201722.336c600c@zooty> <20120922043703.1b23f8f7@mahatma>
Message-ID: <20120922082300.555ce597@scorpio>
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 04:37:03 +0200
Guus Bonnema articulated:
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 20:17:22 -0400
> Tom Horsley wrote:
>
> > I'm getting tired of running around to all the programs that
> > remember the password I'm forced to change every 3 months
> > and changing them individually.
>
> Some time ago a friend of mine had his personal computer stolen. Of
> course he had most applications remember the passwords, like you do.
> Result was: his email account was purged of emails, his bank account
> was accessed, other accounts were accessed and damaged. It was by no
> means easy to recover all that was lost and he didnt manage to
> recover fully.
>
> Since then I have stored all my passwords in a central, encrypted
> file using truecrypt and password + key files. This allows me to
> change any password I want only in 2 places: the server concerned and
> the encrypted file.
>
> When logging on I use the encrypted file and copy and paste. For
> convenience I have yakuake installed so the terminal is always a F12
> click away, no matter which application I am on. grep+copy+paste does
> the job. And I do not have to remember any passwords.
>
> The best I can do if the program supports it is remembering for a
> session, which lasts until I shut the application is down.
>
> Be careful to backup the file encrypted, plus the keyfiles.
>
> There might be an easier way to do this but I haven't found it yet.
If the stolen PC was being used by the thief, then he/she must have
either known or been able to crack the password to access the machine.
I do hope that your friend was not so stupid (naive) as to not have had
a bonafide password in place.
The only PC that I have that could conceivable be easily stolen would
be my laptop. It is running Windows7 and requires facial recognition
to access the PC. Perhaps your friend might want to consider adding
some additional security to his replacement PC ASAP.
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From gbonnema at xs4all.nl Sat Sep 22 15:08:13 2012
From: gbonnema at xs4all.nl (Guus Bonnema)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:08:13 +0200
Subject: [Users] Command line password update?
In-Reply-To: <20120922082300.555ce597@scorpio>
References: <20120921201722.336c600c@zooty> <20120922043703.1b23f8f7@mahatma>
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Message-ID: <20120922150813.08019d79@mahatma>
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 08:23:00 -0400
Jerry wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 04:37:03 +0200
> Guus Bonnema articulated:
>
> > On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 20:17:22 -0400
> > Tom Horsley wrote:
> >
> >
>
> If the stolen PC was being used by the thief, then he/she must have
> either known or been able to crack the password to access the machine.
> I do hope that your friend was not so stupid (naive) as to not have had
> a bonafide password in place.
>
Not saving his passwords in the applications on his PC suffices. The point is
that if you have your hands on the hardware, nothing is safe. Ultimately even
encryption cannot withstand that.
But encryption is still a lot more difficult to crack than saving passwords
in applications (browsers, mailing programs etc). So he just refrains from
saving passwords in apps, thats all.
> The only PC that I have that could conceivable be easily stolen would
> be my laptop. It is running Windows7 and requires facial recognition
> to access the PC. Perhaps your friend might want to consider adding
> some additional security to his replacement PC ASAP.
>
I am curious about the facial recognition: is that mainstream? Or do you
work for a highly specialized company?
Guus Bonnema.
From ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk Sat Sep 22 15:13:49 2012
From: ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk (Kevin Chadwick)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:13:49 +0100
Subject: [Users] Offline online odds and ends
Message-ID: <664892.21403.bm@smtp129.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
I haven't done nearly enough investigation but thought it's likely
better reporting than not.
I'm using Imap and if I don't switch to offline before quitting I have
to wait for timeouts when I first load up, reducing the timeout
shortens the startup delay but not by the length in the timeout setting
(I think it takes as long as the setting on a Ubuntu box) and then
sending very large mails may timeout. I don't have 'check mail on
startup' ticked. I then also have to sometimes flick the offline switch
off and on to connect to the first of many IMAP accounts atleast but
that may be due to a process limit being reached on the server if it
has tried connecting to all accounts at startup. Not sure if it matters,
but I don't use the Get Mail button and have no default accounts ticked.
The offline online switch also seems to very occasionally get confused
asking if I'd like to override the offline status when it is shown as
connected, requiring a couple more clicks to get it right.
I'm running 3.8.1 on Arch linux and the offline online behaviour was
better on OpenBSD than on Ubuntu too. I don't know whether that's
down to being an earlier 3.6 at the time or a build difference.
It's no real issue aside from telling my users to go offline when
quitting to save a wait on startup but thought I would report it to
increase the chances of any problems being noticed while browsing the
code.
Thanks for a great client
Kc
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together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a
universal interface'
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From ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk Sat Sep 22 15:17:20 2012
From: ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk (Kevin Chadwick)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:17:20 +0100
Subject: [Users] Command line password update?
In-Reply-To: <20120922082300.555ce597@scorpio>
References: <20120921201722.336c600c@zooty> <20120922043703.1b23f8f7@mahatma>
<20120922082300.555ce597@scorpio>
Message-ID: <835978.12391.bm@smtp117.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
> If the stolen PC was being used by the thief, then he/she must have
> either known or been able to crack the password to access the machine.
> I do hope that your friend was not so stupid (naive) as to not have had
> a bonafide password in place.
>
I assume your drive is encrypted but putting all your passwords in one
basket means a compromise is a bigger headache but you can go to
greater length to prevent that.
> The only PC that I have that could conceivable be easily stolen would
> be my laptop. It is running Windows7 and requires facial recognition
> to access the PC. Perhaps your friend might want to consider adding
> some additional security to his replacement PC ASAP.
Hee hee, Facial recognition, the security that 6 year olds
have broken.
To the OP, the key for the passwords and the code is in the source
code. I guess a replace all passwords tool or function would be handy. I
have additional security measures but still use passwords in the client.
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_______________________________________________________________________
'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work
together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a
universal interface'
(Doug McIlroy)
_______________________________________________________________________
From jerry at seibercom.net Sat Sep 22 16:44:42 2012
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:44:42 -0400
Subject: [Users] Command line password update?
In-Reply-To: <835978.12391.bm@smtp117.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <20120921201722.336c600c@zooty> <20120922043703.1b23f8f7@mahatma>
<20120922082300.555ce597@scorpio>
<835978.12391.bm@smtp117.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20120922104442.40d94d9a@scorpio>
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:17:20 +0100
Kevin Chadwick articulated:
> > If the stolen PC was being used by the thief, then he/she must have
> > either known or been able to crack the password to access the
> > machine. I do hope that your friend was not so stupid (naive) as to
> > not have had a bonafide password in place.
> >
> I assume your drive is encrypted but putting all your passwords in one
> basket means a compromise is a bigger headache but you can go to
> greater length to prevent that.
>
> > The only PC that I have that could conceivable be easily stolen
> > would be my laptop. It is running Windows7 and requires facial
> > recognition to access the PC. Perhaps your friend might want to
> > consider adding some additional security to his replacement PC ASAP.
>
> Hee hee, Facial recognition, the security that 6 year olds
> have broken.
>
> To the OP, the key for the passwords and the code is in the source
> code. I guess a replace all passwords tool or function would be
> handy. I have additional security measures but still use passwords in
> the client.
Interesting Kevin; do you have any verifiable statistics to back up
your claim? I don't know of any six year old that could accomplish
that feat. I have had between 30 and 40 people, with my permission of
course, attempt to gain access to my laptop. They all failed. Hell,
twice it even gave me a hard time logging in. Perhaps the units your
six year old hacked into had the threshold for recognition set
ridiculously low.
You might want to check out this URL:
.
It is definitely something I am going to investigate further. At a mere
$99 it is a steal if if works correctly. However, in all likelihood, it
will not work on FreeBSD.
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From ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk Sat Sep 22 17:31:38 2012
From: ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk (Kevin Chadwick)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 16:31:38 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bulk] Re: Command line password update?
In-Reply-To: <20120922104442.40d94d9a@scorpio>
References: <20120921201722.336c600c@zooty> <20120922043703.1b23f8f7@mahatma>
<20120922082300.555ce597@scorpio>
<835978.12391.bm@smtp117.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
<20120922104442.40d94d9a@scorpio>
Message-ID: <875869.61049.bm@smtp141.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
> > > If the stolen PC was being used by the thief, then he/she must have
> > > either known or been able to crack the password to access the
> > > machine. I do hope that your friend was not so stupid (naive) as to
> > > not have had a bonafide password in place.
> > >
> > I assume your drive is encrypted but putting all your passwords in one
> > basket means a compromise is a bigger headache but you can go to
> > greater length to prevent that.
> >
> > > The only PC that I have that could conceivable be easily stolen
> > > would be my laptop. It is running Windows7 and requires facial
> > > recognition to access the PC. Perhaps your friend might want to
> > > consider adding some additional security to his replacement PC ASAP.
> >
> > Hee hee, Facial recognition, the security that 6 year olds
> > have broken.
> >
> > To the OP, the key for the passwords and the code is in the source
> > code. I guess a replace all passwords tool or function would be
> > handy. I have additional security measures but still use passwords in
> > the client.
>
> Interesting Kevin; do you have any verifiable statistics to back up
> your claim? I don't know of any six year old that could accomplish
> that feat. I have had between 30 and 40 people, with my permission of
> course, attempt to gain access to my laptop. They all failed. Hell,
> twice it even gave me a hard time logging in. Perhaps the units your
> six year old hacked into had the threshold for recognition set
> ridiculously low.
Were you drunk the night before ;-)
It will obviously depend on the implementation and settings but
personally I wouldn't trust it just like fingerprints which you leave
everywhere, though for low level security the convenience is appealing
and makes it useful especially if you wouldn't use a pass code
otherwise or set a long timeout. You want evidence of it being attacked
and still secure, not evidence that it's insecure for security
mechanisms.
The news story I saw was of a 6 year old son using a picture of his dad
to unlock his phone to play a game. If you test I'd try one without
glass. Easy to fix this for the software devs but hardly the end of
the game.
--
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'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work
together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a
universal interface'
(Doug McIlroy)
_______________________________________________________________________
From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 23 00:27:56 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 00:27:56 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2737] New: Fancy CVS: wrong accent character
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2737
Summary: Fancy CVS: wrong accent character
Product: Claws Mail
Version: CVS
Platform: PC
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: Plugins/Fancy
AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
ReportedBy: fragabr at gmail.com
Created an attachment (id=1161)
--> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1161)
Youtube mail with wrong characters (utf8)
Youtube changed the e-mail format sent when someone posts a comment. Now
Claws-mail using Fancy plugin shows a "?" (questiom mark) instead of the correc
character with accent (this mail uses UTF-8).
What happens? Bug? I'm using webkit-gtk 1.8.3.
Thanks.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 23 00:29:34 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 00:29:34 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2737] Fancy CVS: wrong accent character
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120922222934.47942855A0@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2737
--- Comment #1 from D�niel Fraga 2012-09-23 00:29:32 ---
Here's the html code (the text part is fine):
Resposta de ConscienciaDosAtos em "Candidatos libertários em 2012"
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 23 01:07:39 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 01:07:39 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2737] Fancy CVS: wrong accent character
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120922230739.DF45E855A0@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2737
Salvatore De Paolis changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution| |INVALID
--- Comment #2 from Salvatore De Paolis 2012-09-23 01:07:39 ---
It might be a bug in webkit.
I'm using 1.8.1 and it shows correctly.
Try to downgrade.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 23 01:49:08 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 01:49:08 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2737] Fancy CVS: wrong accent character
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120922234909.15A0185588@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2737
--- Comment #3 from D�niel Fraga 2012-09-23 01:49:08 ---
I was using webkit 1.8.1 and had this problem. Before reporting I upgrade to
1.8.3 to see if it was webkit's fault.
Unfortunately it happens with both versions
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 23 09:46:47 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 08:46:47 +0100
Subject: [Users] Command line password update?
In-Reply-To: <20120922104442.40d94d9a@scorpio>
References: <20120921201722.336c600c@zooty> <20120922043703.1b23f8f7@mahatma>
<20120922082300.555ce597@scorpio>
<835978.12391.bm@smtp117.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
<20120922104442.40d94d9a@scorpio>
Message-ID: <20120923084647.40c25308@thewildbeast>
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:44:42 -0400
Jerry wrote:
> You might want to check out this URL:
> .
> It is definitely something I am going to investigate further. At a
> mere $99 it is a steal if if works correctly. However, in all
> likelihood, it will not work on FreeBSD.
Please never, ever recommend the daily mail on this mailing list! :)
with regards
Paul
--
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me,
but to a collector it is worth a fortune
From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Sun Sep 23 13:16:01 2012
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) Olgiati)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 07:16:01 -0400
Subject: [Users] Command line password update?
In-Reply-To: <20120923084647.40c25308@thewildbeast>
References: <20120921201722.336c600c@zooty> <20120922104442.40d94d9a@scorpio>
<20120923084647.40c25308@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <201209230716.01945.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
On Sunday 23 Sep 2012 03:46 my mailbox was graced by a message from Paul who
wrote:
> Please never, ever recommend the daily mail on this mailing list! :)
Why ? Are we all supposed to drool over page three of The Sun ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
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that people have decided to agree on.
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 23 15:17:13 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 14:17:13 +0100
Subject: [Users] Command line password update?
In-Reply-To: <201209230716.01945.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
References: <20120921201722.336c600c@zooty> <20120922104442.40d94d9a@scorpio>
<20120923084647.40c25308@thewildbeast>
<201209230716.01945.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
Message-ID: <20120923141713.0241e622@thewildbeast>
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 07:16:01 -0400
"Renaud (Ron) Olgiati" wrote:
> Why ? Are we all supposed to drool over page three of The Sun ?
------8<------8<-----8<-----
A banker, a Daily Mail reader and a benefit claimant are sitting at a
table sharing 12 biscuits.
The banker takes 11 and says to the Daily Mail reader, 'Watch out for
the benefit claimant he wants your biscuit'.
------>8------>8----->8-----
it's a reactionary right-wing paper. sort of like the sun for people
who think they're better than the sun readers.
with regards
Paul
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It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me,
but to a collector it is worth a fortune
From ratinox at gweep.net Sun Sep 23 15:37:55 2012
From: ratinox at gweep.net (ratinox at gweep.net)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 09:37:55 -0400
Subject: [Users] Command line password update?
In-Reply-To: <201209230716.01945.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
References: <20120921201722.336c600c@zooty> <20120922104442.40d94d9a@scorpio>
<20120923084647.40c25308@thewildbeast>
<201209230716.01945.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
Message-ID: <20120923093755.00004ee7@unknown>
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 07:16:01 -0400
"Renaud (Ron) Olgiati" wrote:
> Why ? Are we all supposed to drool over page three of The Sun ?
I can't, for the life of me, take seriously any rag that uses the movie
"Demolition Man" as a reference.
--
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From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Sun Sep 23 17:25:40 2012
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 09:25:40 -0600
Subject: [Users] Command line password update?
In-Reply-To: <20120923093755.00004ee7@unknown>
References: <20120921201722.336c600c@zooty> <20120922104442.40d94d9a@scorpio>
<20120923084647.40c25308@thewildbeast>
<201209230716.01945.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
<20120923093755.00004ee7@unknown>
Message-ID: <20120923092540.1fa13483@yendi.localdomain>
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 09:37:55 -0400
ratinox at gweep.net wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 07:16:01 -0400
> "Renaud (Ron) Olgiati" wrote:
>
> > Why ? Are we all supposed to drool over page three of The Sun ?
>
> I can't, for the life of me, take seriously any rag that uses the
> movie "Demolition Man" as a reference.
>
Well, there is the old joke used both in "Yes, Minister" and "Yes, Prime
Minister" about who reads which British newspapers. I don't recall it
exactly, but it goes something like, the Guardian is for people who
wish they ran the country, the Times is for people who think they run
the country, etc. And someone asks, what about the Sun. The answer is,
Sun readers don't care who runs the country as long as she has big tits.
(And for those who might complain, I an quoting the BBC, so it must be
in good taste.)
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From sylpheed at 911networks.com Mon Sep 24 02:20:07 2012
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:20:07 -0700
Subject: [Users] POPfile pros and cons
Message-ID: <20120923172007.77a5cca8@from-theboss.911networks.com>
Hi,
I'd like to hear from people comparing the Bogofilter plugin vs
POPfile.
I'm being flooded with spam (by the hundredS per day, some days it
gets close to a thousand) and Bogo catches in the 70s% to 80s% range.
It looks like I can the spam control better with POPfile. It tracks
the words and the spam better than the Bogo plugin (unless there's
some interface)
--
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http://www.911networks.com
When the network has to work
From subscript at free.fr Mon Sep 24 03:48:24 2012
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 03:48:24 +0200
Subject: [Users] POPfile pros and cons
In-Reply-To: <20120923172007.77a5cca8@from-theboss.911networks.com>
References: <20120923172007.77a5cca8@from-theboss.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20120924034824.3e3b9f33@monolith>
Hello,
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:20:07 -0700 sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to hear from people comparing the Bogofilter plugin vs
> POPfile.
>
> I'm being flooded with spam (by the hundredS per day, some days it
> gets close to a thousand) and Bogo catches in the 70s% to 80s% range.
> It looks like I can the spam control better with POPfile. It tracks
> the words and the spam better than the Bogo plugin (unless there's
> some interface)
I gave up w/ bogofilter, spamassassin and other spam handling software,
then switched to POPFile few years ago. Easy to configure, efficient
and I like the web-based interface. I think the learning phase is
identical for every spam handling stuff, needs some feeding and
corrections at the beginning, then only very few corrections and this.
I won't say it better in terms of catching positives and avoiding false
positives or presenting negatives or unsure messages, but at least to
my experience, the UI and the control feeling it provides did the
difference.
Regards,
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From emailgrant at gmail.com Mon Sep 24 08:17:00 2012
From: emailgrant at gmail.com (Grant)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 23:17:00 -0700
Subject: [Users] View all headers?
Message-ID:
Is there a way to view all of the headers for a particular message?
- Grant
From rol at witbe.net Mon Sep 24 08:25:43 2012
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 08:25:43 +0200
Subject: [Users] View all headers?
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120924082543.31ec1726@tux.DEF.witbe.net>
Hello,
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 23:17:00 -0700
Grant wrote:
> Is there a way to view all of the headers for a particular message?
Have a look at :
View > Show all headers
On my config, it is associated with Ctrl-H
Best,
Paul
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too young to have logged on yet. Here's what I worry about. I worry that 10
or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say 'Daddy, where were you
when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?'"
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From emailgrant at gmail.com Mon Sep 24 09:15:36 2012
From: emailgrant at gmail.com (Grant)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 00:15:36 -0700
Subject: [Users] View all headers?
In-Reply-To: <20120924082543.31ec1726@tux.DEF.witbe.net>
References:
<20120924082543.31ec1726@tux.DEF.witbe.net>
Message-ID:
>> Is there a way to view all of the headers for a particular message?
>
> Have a look at :
> View > Show all headers
> On my config, it is associated with Ctrl-H
There it is, thank you Paul.
- Grant
From pajoohesh at gmail.com Mon Sep 24 12:07:28 2012
From: pajoohesh at gmail.com (Amir Jahanshahi)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 12:07:28 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws gmx
Message-ID: <20120924120728.07912c15@Amir-Ubuntu>
Dear all,
I have a problem with the configuration of smtp server with gmx email.
It is working properly in thunderbird with the settings attached.
However when I set it in claws I get errors. The log file is this:
* Account 'Amir.Jahanshahi at gmx.com': Connecting to SMTP server:
mail.gmx.com ... [12:06:12] SMTP< 220 mail.gmx.com GMX Mailservices
ESMTP {mp-eu006} [12:06:12] ESMTP> EHLO Amir-Ubuntu
[12:06:12] ESMTP< 250-mail.gmx.com GMX Mailservices
[12:06:12] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME
[12:06:12] ESMTP< 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
[12:06:12] ESMTP< 250-SIZE
[12:06:12] ESMTP< 250-AUTH=LOGIN PLAIN
[12:06:12] ESMTP< 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN
[12:06:12] ESMTP< 250 STARTTLS
[12:06:12] ESMTP> AUTH LOGIN
[12:06:12] ESMTP< 334 VXNlcm5hbWU6
[12:06:12] ESMTP> [USERID]
[12:06:12] ESMTP< 334 UGFzc3dvcmQ6
[12:06:12] ESMTP> [PASSWORD]
[12:06:12] ESMTP< 235 2.7.0 Go ahead {mp-eu006}
[12:06:12] ESMTP> MAIL FROM: SIZE=374
[12:06:12] SMTP< 550 5.7.0 Sender address does not belong to logged in
user {mp-eu006} ** error occurred on SMTP session
*** Error occurred while sending the message:
550 5.7.0 Sender address does not belong to logged in user {mp-eu006}
Could you please tell me what it the problem?
With Kind Regards,
Amir
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From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Mon Sep 24 12:48:18 2012
From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 12:48:18 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws gmx
References: <20120924120728.07912c15@Amir-Ubuntu>
Message-ID: <20120924104819.167040@gmx.com>
I am not sure I understand where the problem relies at.
Perhaps one of these will help you:
* Did you checked [x] SMTP Authentication (SMTP AUTH)?
Configuration/Edit accounts.../Edit/Send/Authentication/SMTP
Authentication (SMTP AUTH)/Authentication method: Automatic
* Do you use more than one GMX Email address for the same account?
If you do, use your logon Email as User ID and use the rest of the
GMX Email addresses in the From field when you send Emails.
* Mail address: Your extra GMX Email address
* User ID: your at logon.email
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 12:07:28 +0200
Amir Jahanshahi wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I have a problem with the configuration of smtp server with gmx email.
>
> It is working properly in thunderbird with the settings attached.
> However when I set it in claws I get errors. The log file is this:
>
> * Account 'Amir.Jahanshahi at gmx.com': Connecting to SMTP server:
> mail.gmx.com ... [12:06:12] SMTP< 220 mail.gmx.com GMX Mailservices
> ESMTP {mp-eu006} [12:06:12] ESMTP> EHLO Amir-Ubuntu
> [12:06:12] ESMTP< 250-mail.gmx.com GMX Mailservices
> [12:06:12] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME
> [12:06:12] ESMTP< 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
> [12:06:12] ESMTP< 250-SIZE
> [12:06:12] ESMTP< 250-AUTH=LOGIN PLAIN
> [12:06:12] ESMTP< 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN
> [12:06:12] ESMTP< 250 STARTTLS
> [12:06:12] ESMTP> AUTH LOGIN
> [12:06:12] ESMTP< 334 VXNlcm5hbWU6
> [12:06:12] ESMTP> [USERID]
> [12:06:12] ESMTP< 334 UGFzc3dvcmQ6
> [12:06:12] ESMTP> [PASSWORD]
> [12:06:12] ESMTP< 235 2.7.0 Go ahead {mp-eu006}
> [12:06:12] ESMTP> MAIL FROM: SIZE=374
> [12:06:12] SMTP< 550 5.7.0 Sender address does not belong to logged in
> user {mp-eu006} ** error occurred on SMTP session
> *** Error occurred while sending the message:
> 550 5.7.0 Sender address does not belong to logged in user {mp-eu006}
>
> Could you please tell me what it the problem?
>
> With Kind Regards,
> Amir
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From rol at witbe.net Mon Sep 24 13:05:05 2012
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 13:05:05 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws gmx
In-Reply-To: <20120924120728.07912c15@Amir-Ubuntu>
References: <20120924120728.07912c15@Amir-Ubuntu>
Message-ID: <20120924130505.6103d5e2@tux.DEF.witbe.net>
Hello,
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 12:07:28 +0200
Amir Jahanshahi wrote:
> I have a problem with the configuration of smtp server with gmx email.
>
> It is working properly in thunderbird with the settings attached.
> However when I set it in claws I get errors. The log file is this:
> [12:06:12] ESMTP< 235 2.7.0 Go ahead {mp-eu006}
> [12:06:12] ESMTP> MAIL FROM: SIZE=374
Is that a Cut'n'paste ? Because the email is _gxm_, not _gmx_...
Paul
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From pajoohesh at gmail.com Mon Sep 24 13:21:35 2012
From: pajoohesh at gmail.com (Amir Jahanshahi)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 13:21:35 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws gmx
In-Reply-To: <20120924130505.6103d5e2@tux.DEF.witbe.net>
References: <20120924120728.07912c15@Amir-Ubuntu>
<20120924130505.6103d5e2@tux.DEF.witbe.net>
Message-ID: <20120924132135.4f92835d@Amir-Ubuntu>
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 13:05:05 +0200
Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 12:07:28 +0200
> Amir Jahanshahi wrote:
>
> > I have a problem with the configuration of smtp server with gmx
> > email.
> >
> > It is working properly in thunderbird with the settings attached.
> > However when I set it in claws I get errors. The log file is this:
> > [12:06:12] ESMTP< 235 2.7.0 Go ahead {mp-eu006}
> > [12:06:12] ESMTP> MAIL FROM: SIZE=374
>
> Is that a Cut'n'paste ? Because the email is _gxm_, not _gmx_...
>
> Paul
>
Hi Paul,
You saved me from a couple of hours and a headache! Never thought the
mistake is a stupid spelling.
Kind Regards,
Amir
From newsboy at scarlet-jade.com Mon Sep 24 17:29:35 2012
From: newsboy at scarlet-jade.com (Graham P Davis)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:29:35 +0100
Subject: [Users] Relay access denied.
Message-ID: <20120924162935.0349fb57@home-1>
I've been getting failures lately when replying to, or sending new
e-mails. The log contains the above message. What is - or isn't - going
on?
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Claws 3.8.1
From subscript at free.fr Mon Sep 24 17:37:23 2012
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 17:37:23 +0200
Subject: [Users] Relay access denied.
In-Reply-To: <20120924162935.0349fb57@home-1>
References: <20120924162935.0349fb57@home-1>
Message-ID: <20120924173723.7c3b9236@monolith>
Hello Graham,
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:29:35 +0100 Graham P Davis wrote:
>
> I've been getting failures lately when replying to, or sending new
> e-mails. The log contains the above message. What is - or isn't - going
> on?
You're probably sending an email with your @foo address through a server
that is not bound to foo (say, bar). It's common that bar dislikes
relaying for foo's emails, sometimes even for very good reasons.
You can either use foo's smtp or use another server that allows
relaying other domains?
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From newsboy at scarlet-jade.com Mon Sep 24 17:45:13 2012
From: newsboy at scarlet-jade.com (Graham P Davis)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:45:13 +0100
Subject: [Users] Relay access denied.
References: <20120924162935.0349fb57@home-1>
Message-ID: <20120924164513.5b01facd@home-1>
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:29:35 +0100
Graham P Davis wrote:
>
> I've been getting failures lately when replying to, or sending new
> e-mails. The log contains the above message. What is - or isn't -
> going on?
>
>
As often happens, I found the solution soon after posting this. In
configuration, the button for SMTP authorisation had become un-ticked.
No idea how that could have happened. Now OK. Sorry for bothering you.
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From ricardo at mones.org Wed Sep 26 09:46:14 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:46:14 +0200
Subject: [Users] Unix domain socket directory
In-Reply-To: <20120921105857.00003c3e@unknown>
References: <20120920161123.00000b96@unknown>
<20120921000925.63e07528@monolith>
<20120921091937.1594fd47@busgosu.mones.org>
<20120921093138.4d5bf376@colin> <20120921105857.00003c3e@unknown>
Message-ID: <20120926094614.4b3a70b9@busgosu.mones.org>
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:58:57 -0400
ratinox at gweep.net wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:31:38 +0200
> Colin Leroy wrote:
>
> > Yes, that's the goal indeed.
>
> So, it's working as intended but with some consequences in atypical
> environments.
>
> Is a --alternate-socket-dir option worth having beyond my own needs?
I don't think is a worth to have option, because a workaround exists, like
using NTFS (which also supports encryption) instead of FAT.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Sep 26 16:28:39 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:28:39 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1839] Allow different signatures depending on
recipients email
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120926142839.A924685557@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1839
--- Comment #2 from J�r�me 2012-09-26 16:28:38 ---
FWIW
A (partial) workaround is to create an account for each signature, then select
the appropriate account manually.
If you sort incoming messages in folders, note that you can also specify a
default account for messages composed when in a specific folder.
claws-mail also automatically chooses the right account when replying to an
email, but AFAIK this is based on the email address in the To:, Cc: or Bcc:
field, so this won't work for several accounts with the same email address.
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From slitt at troubleshooters.com Wed Sep 26 16:58:04 2012
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 10:58:04 -0400
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1839] Allow different signatures depending on
recipients email
In-Reply-To: <20120926142839.A924685557@mx.colino.net>
References:
<20120926142839.A924685557@mx.colino.net>
Message-ID: <20120926105804.103e4d86@mydesk>
On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:28:39 +0200 (CEST), noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk
said:
> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1839
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Comment #2 from Jérôme 2012-09-26 16:28:38 ---
> FWIW
>
> A (partial) workaround is to create an account for each signature,
> then select the appropriate account manually.
>
> If you sort incoming messages in folders, note that you can also
> specify a default account for messages composed when in a specific
> folder.
>
> claws-mail also automatically chooses the right account when replying
> to an email, but AFAIK this is based on the email address in the To:,
> Cc: or Bcc: field, so this won't work for several accounts with the
> same email address.
What I do is create a folder (beginning with aaa so it's easy to
find) for each sig I want to use. Then, if I want to use a certain sig,
I highlight that folder and create the new email.
Of course, this doesn't work on replies.
One thing I liked about Kmail was that on the email composition window
there was a dropdown where you could choose your sig, for each email.
Thanks
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From ratinox at gweep.net Wed Sep 26 17:55:51 2012
From: ratinox at gweep.net (ratinox at gweep.net)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:55:51 -0400
Subject: [Users] Unix domain socket directory
In-Reply-To: <20120926094614.4b3a70b9@busgosu.mones.org>
References: <20120920161123.00000b96@unknown>
<20120921000925.63e07528@monolith>
<20120921091937.1594fd47@busgosu.mones.org>
<20120921093138.4d5bf376@colin> <20120921105857.00003c3e@unknown>
<20120926094614.4b3a70b9@busgosu.mones.org>
Message-ID: <20120926115551.00007842@unknown>
On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:46:14 +0200
Ricardo Mones wrote:
> I don't think is a worth to have option, because a workaround
> exists, like using NTFS (which also supports encryption) instead of
> FAT.
NTFS via FUSE does not support either NTFS encryption or Unix domain
sockets so using NTFS for this purpose on Linux and Macintosh is a
non-starter. Native NTFS support on Macintosh is read-only so this also
is a non-starter.
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From sylpheed at 911networks.com Thu Sep 27 18:36:03 2012
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 09:36:03 -0700
Subject: [Users] Sorting by TO domains
Message-ID: <20120927093603.0d6fb206@from-theboss.911networks.com>
Hi,
Is there a way of sorting the message list by the domain of the TO
column? Then if possible the "before the @".
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 27 20:28:07 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 20:28:07 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] New: Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2738
Summary: Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
Product: Claws Mail
Version: 3.8.1
Platform: PC
URL: https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/gmail/v
bDcgtDcfyw
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: POP3
AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
ReportedBy: ignorantguru at gmx.com
Anytime gmail changes its ssl cert, for at least several days claws-mail will
keep asking me to accept the new cert, then accept the old one, then the new
one, etc. on each retrieval. This is detailed here:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/gmail/vbDcgtDcfyw
This problem existed last year too. Their servers sometimes return the old
cert and sometimes the new (for several days, according to the above link). If
claws-mail already has a newer cert, it should use that instead of attempting
to replace it with the older one.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 27 20:52:05 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 20:52:05 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120927185205.79CEB85543@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2738
Colin Leroy changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution| |INVALID
--- Comment #1 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-27 20:52:04 ---
Claws warns each time a certificate changes. It is abnormal for a server (farm
or not) with a single DNS name to present different certificates at each
connection.
(Please do not reopen, this would not change the answer).
Sorry I couldn't read your link, it requires a login.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 27 21:34:15 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 21:34:15 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120927193415.DE65B854CD@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2738
--- Comment #2 from IgnorantGuru 2012-09-27 21:34:15 ---
The link doesn't require a login - not sure why you're getting that. You could
search google for "Each receive of mail (claws-mail) results in rotation of 2
SSL certificates".
It's fine that claws reports changes, but when a newer cert replaces an older
one, then the old one appears on some connections, it doesn't look like it
should be changed again.
If the largest email provider is doing this regularly for years, it's not
"abnormal", but normal (however incorrect or inconvenient), so I don't think
just ignoring the problem is helpful - best to work from reality. Most other
clients seem to handle this gracefully based on that discussion. In case you
still can't find that page, here was google's response:
> As you can see, the expiration date on the old certificate is fast approaching (4/22/2011), so we had to update our certificates to new ones.
>
> All production changes of this type are canaried, ie rolled out first to a small percentage of our servers. These canaries usually run for 3-5 days before being rolled out to the rest of the servers.
>
> Its unfortunate that your client doesn't like to see rotating certs, though. You're going to see this issue every year or two, since we have to renew the certificates that often. If you can, I'd talk to the developers of the client and see if they'd move to a model of permanently accepting a certificate instead of objecting every time there's a switch.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 27 21:52:35 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 21:52:35 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120927195235.CD8BD854CD@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2738
--- Comment #3 from Brad Rogers 2012-09-27 21:52:35 ---
Claws has a mechanism that allows you to silently accept certs. Shut down CM,
then edit clawsrc, changing unsafe_ssl_certs=0 to unsafe_ssl_certs=1 which then
allows CM to save multiple certs for circumstances like this.
Some consider this to be unwise, since it could allow bogus certs to be
accepted silently. The choice, of course, is yours.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 27 21:59:05 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 21:59:05 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120927195905.AA0E2854CD@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2738
--- Comment #4 from IgnorantGuru 2012-09-27 21:59:05 ---
That's a poor workaround which doesn't apply to this situation. Frankly, you
seem to just want to avoid doing any work, so you instantly close a bug report
without examining the situation or giving time for further input. But I know
it's fun to close bug reports without doing any work. Next time I'll know to
not bother wasting my time reporting a serious usability issue with your
client. Thanks.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 27 22:16:05 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 22:16:05 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120927201605.6ABA6854CD@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2738
--- Comment #5 from Paul 2012-09-27 22:16:04 ---
Frankly, the bug report was not just closed "without examining the situation or
giving time for further input". This is not a new issue, it is not the first
time we've heard about it, you did not tell us something new. I know that it's
fun to open bug reports without doing any work in the first place to find out
if the issue has already been reported or is known about, or has even been
dealt with previously. IMO, the certificate that the server issues is the one
that should be taken notice of. It would be wrong to assume that the server has
made an error (or something) because a previous certificate from it had a
different, newer date. To be fair, you gave us a clue with your login name, so
I can't criticise you for getting your ideas of our intent a little mixed up.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 27 22:33:15 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 22:33:15 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120927203315.89FC785543@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2738
--- Comment #6 from Brad Rogers 2012-09-27 22:33:14 ---
I'm not on the dev team, just a user of CM that reads bug reports via the
mailing list. I offered a suggestion.
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From freebsd at grem.de Thu Sep 27 22:39:17 2012
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 22:39:17 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
In-Reply-To: <20120927203315.89FC785543@mx.colino.net>
References:
<20120927203315.89FC785543@mx.colino.net>
Message-ID: <20120927223917.2e666355@bsd64.grem.de>
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 22:33:15 +0200 (CEST)
noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:
> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2738
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Comment #6 from Brad Rogers 2012-09-27 22:33:14 ---
> I'm not on the dev team, just a user of CM that reads bug reports via
> the mailing list. I offered a suggestion.
>
What I don't get is: If is a _known_ issue (and it is an issue, there's
no way denying that, even if it can't be fixed), why hasn't it been
closed as DUPLICATE? Maybe also giving a reference of the bug it's
duplicating. If I was the author of this bug report that would've
irritated me as well.
Just my 2 cents
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 27 22:40:21 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 22:40:21 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120927204021.CA845854CD@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2738
--- Comment #7 from IgnorantGuru 2012-09-27 22:40:21 ---
I searched and didn't find any open bug reports on this, just users
complaining, so I submitted one. Now I understand why that is - you just keep
closing them.
If you keep hearing about an issue, it's because you're not addressing the
problem in any reasonable way. If you want to ignore it, that's your choice,
but my suggestion is don't mark it as 'resolved' when you haven't resolved it
at all. Just leave it open until someone is actually willing to work on it, so
others can see it's a known problem. Or, expect more reports just like this
one.
You could at least keep the new cert for the current session. Or provide some
kind of an option specifically for this, since obviously your client handles
the situation poorly. You can complain that the situation is not what you want
it to be, but that's just ignoring reality, which never makes for good
software.
I see this a lot - closing a bug just to get rid of it. I think it disrespects
the users who take the time to report issues. Regardless, thanks for what is
usually a good app. I expected a genuinely responsive dev team because of this
- instead I got the usual 'just mark it resolved so I don't have to deal with
it' response.
News flash: you have an UNresolved issue here - that's why you keep hearing
about it.
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 27 23:15:02 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 22:15:02 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
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On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 22:39:17 +0200
Michael Gmelin wrote:
> What I don't get is: If is a _known_ issue (and it is an issue,
> there's no way denying that, even if it can't be fixed), why hasn't
> it been closed as DUPLICATE?
Because it is a known issue but not a duplicate bug, i.e. it was
discussed somewhere other than the bug tracker.
with regards
Paul
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 27 23:16:42 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 23:16:42 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
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--- Comment #8 from Paul 2012-09-27 23:16:41 ---
well, thanks for the advice...
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Sep 27 23:48:08 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 23:48:08 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
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IgnorantGuru changed:
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Resolution|INVALID |
--- Comment #9 from IgnorantGuru 2012-09-27 23:48:08 ---
A few other thoughts on this, in case anyone is actually willing to consider
them without resorting to personal attacks.
Claws is unusual in that it asks the user to approve a cert ("Accept & Save"),
rather than verifying the sig and using it. Fine, nice feature. But the way
it's implemented is erroneous in that I already accepted and saved this newer
cert. Yet it keeps prompting me to accept it over and over again, even though
I have done so. That's the core of the problem, and why it makes Claws
behavior look stupid. Accept means accept - don't ask me again.
Apparently the only way to avoid this annoying behavior at present is to
disable the 'accept' feature entirely and accept certs silently (thanks for the
suggestion regardless, Brad Rogers). Because of UI deficiency, you're forcing
the user to lessen their security settings just to have a functional app, which
does not make for good security.
Surely there is some way that Claws could handle this more gracefully for the
user beyond asking the very same question over and over and over again, but
instead the issue is disregarded because the dev feels google's server is
"abnormal". Try taking a look at the behavior of your own app in this
situation if you want to see "abnormal". That's the job of an email client -
managing the underlying issues in a reasonable way for the user. Claws fails
in this area due to an incomplete implementation of the 'Accept & Save'
feature.
I'm no fan of Google and I don't defend everything they do, but here I don't
think they're doing anything so unreasonable. Google isn't going to change to
accommodate Claws, but Claws can adapt in the case, for the sake of Claws
users, without jeopardizing security at all (in fact improving it since the
current suggestion seems to be 'silently accept everything').
This is a simple UI failure, but perhaps due to some resentment toward GMail by
the Claws devs, they refuse to address the problem. I think there is an
intelligent and simple way for Claws to handle this situation gracefully, but
it's being ignored for the sake of egos.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 28 00:13:40 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 00:13:40 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
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--- Comment #10 from IgnorantGuru 2012-09-28 00:13:36 ---
Also meant to mention: Perhaps the solution could be as simple as retaining
the current and previous cert for the server (I accepted both, so both should
be considered valid for use until expired, and no further prompt should be
necessary). Or, retain all accepted certs until expired, so I don't have to
tell Claws repeatedly that it's accepted. It's really just a lack of memory
here for what's 'accepted'.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 28 02:14:31 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 02:14:31 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
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--- Comment #11 from Pierre Fortin 2012-09-28 02:14:30 ---
I too am just a user... but Colin gave you the answer in the very first
comment above. Let's parse it together...
> Claws warns each time a certificate changes.
Your comments indicate you are aware of this.
> It is abnormal
as in "not normal", "wrong", "non-compliant"...
> for a server (farm or not)
multiple machines (or just one)
> with a single DNS name
with just "gmail.com", not gmail2.com, gmail3.com, etc...
> to present different certificates at each connection.
are starting to see the real problem?
In case... each time you check mail, you are likely hitting a different
machine at gmail.com, all of which are not certificate-synched.
That said; Google feels that the problem is due to the date/time in your
computer... any chance it's off by a few minutes?
http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=63590
HTH
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From rcook at pcug.org.au Fri Sep 28 02:29:48 2012
From: rcook at pcug.org.au (Owen)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:29:48 +1000
Subject: [Users] Faulty? message display
Message-ID: <20120928102948.3d50a6ea@pcug.org.au>
Google search suggested the subject should be;
"Disable Date Events Smart Links in Email Display" but there was no
answer, and seems to be related to a calendaring program.
Anyway, here is my problem.
Claws does not seem to be able to correctly display emails.
Mon 29
th
* Oct* North We have some
vacancies for anyone interested. ???
Tuesday 6
th
Nov. South
The header suggests it comes from a Windows program
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0
A friend with Thunderbird says they read correctly in that program
Are there any suggestions as to what I may have missing or need to do
to remove the xml
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 28 03:15:09 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 03:15:09 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2738
--- Comment #12 from ratinox 2012-09-28 03:15:09 ---
> I have done so. That's the core of the problem, and why it makes Claws
> behavior look stupid. Accept means accept - don't ask me again.
The SSL specifications stipulate that a socket (combination of IP address and
port) have exactly one valid SSL certificate associated with it.
Google's procedure for distributing new SSL certificates results in sockets
presenting multiple different SSL certificates.
Google is wrong. Claws Mail is correct in barking about it. Even though it may
look stupid to you it is the correct behavior according to the SSL
specifications.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 28 04:37:21 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 04:37:21 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
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--- Comment #13 from IgnorantGuru 2012-09-28 04:37:20 ---
> Google is wrong. Claws Mail is correct in barking about it. Even though it may
> look stupid to you it is the correct behavior according to the SSL
> specifications.
Thanks for your reply. The specs say something about how to inform the user,
do they? Very thorough specs. If what you say about the specs is correct,
that doesn't mean Claws behavior to the user is 'correct'. If it wants to bark
about it, it should do so in a functional way which enhances security and is
usable. What it displays (again and again and again) is not a warning, it is a
dialog asking you to accept a cert, accept a cert, accept a cert, accept a
cert, accept a cert, and to compare information, compare information, compare
information, compare information, compare information. What do you think
happens when the user is shown this a few hundred times? It's effectively a
large number of false positive warnings, which reduces security (not to mention
driving users to disable it entirely). This is what you call 'correct
behavior'? I call it an unrefined and underdeveloped interface.
Further, we all know 'specs' are not the final word and are always growing and
adapting to new uses before the spec writers catch up to reality (which they
never do). Other mail clients have adapted to this 'new normal'. Two keys
having an overlap period of validity when being changed is not exactly unheard
of. (Or if not exactly 'valid', at least recognize what is happening with some
intelligence.) Google represents a new scale of mail server. If I ran
something that large, I might fly a few canaries too. Adaptation to reality
and common use rather than just specs is always necessary, at least if you want
software that behaves anywhere near reasonably. To put it another way, if the
developer's mail server showed this problem, the fix would be mighty quick,
regardless of any 'specs' getting in the way of that, I assure you. No
developer would tolerate this behavior - or at least no developer that knows
what a quality app looks like. This is just a lack of will.
If I can see what's happening in these repeated and repeated and repeated and
repeated and repeated and repeated dialogs, Claws could be made smart enough to
see what's happening. It would nice and much more effective to be informed of
the key change - once. Like I said, this is merely a bit of lack of memory and
intelligence. It's not a tough technical problem, there is simply no will to
correct it. I accepted the cert - it's not expired, revoked, the sig is good -
I don't need to be asked again.
Defending the current behavior that the user sees is simply ridiculous, and
even more so by quoting SSL specs (I suspect you haven't even seen it or you'd
be embarrassed to defend it). If the devs don't want to be bothered to fix
this obvious but limited problem, just have the nerve to say that, or leave it
open. This discussion is obviously not worth continuing since there is simply
no will to even acknowledge the problem honestly. Not everything is a
technical problem.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 28 07:57:30 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 07:57:30 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
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Colin Leroy changed:
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--- Comment #14 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-28 07:57:29 ---
Actually, the solution Brad pointed out is spot-on as it was implemented
precisely to deal with GMail's issue. See manual for its description. It was
initially named "multiple_ssl_certs" and got renamed because storing multiple
certificates for one host is actually unsafe, as has been pointed out.
Read the manual for a precise description of that option, and to know whether
or not is applies to the current situation.
So we did consider that issue, we did work on it to provide a solution, it is
documented, all of these happened a few years ago and that is why I just closed
your bug report.
Hope this helps.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 28 09:31:29 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 09:31:29 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
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--- Comment #15 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-28 09:31:28 ---
Three more things before I'm done ranting:
> Google isn't going to change to accommodate Claws, but Claws can
> adapt in the case
We heard that a few times before, and doesn't it sound a lot like what web
browers implementors and web site designers have had to do in order to deal
with "Microsoft isn't going to change Internet Explorer so we better adapt" ?
If you know a bit about web development, you probably know where it lead : a
decade of incompatibilities and multiple implementations to work around browser
bugs. Hell for web developers.
Standards are there for a reason and it is not to annoy users.
> Also meant to mention: Perhaps the solution could be as simple as
> retaining the current and previous cert for the server (I accepted
> both, so both should be considered valid for use until expired, and
> no further prompt should be necessary). Or, retain all accepted
> certs until expired, so I don't have to tell Claws repeatedly that
> it's accepted. It's really just a lack of memory here for what's
> 'accepted'.
Which is exactly what unsafe_ssl_certs=1 does:
unsafe_ssl_certs
Allows Claws to remember multiple SSL certificates for a given server/port.
This is disabled by default.
> But I know it's fun to close bug reports without doing any work
Almost everybody involved in this bug report thread has been around since 2002
or even earlier. Some put hundreds of personal hours into code, others into
helping new users on the mailing-list or bugzilla.
Don't get surprised if you get harsh answers after dismissing that.
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From ricardo at mones.org Fri Sep 28 10:43:52 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:43:52 +0200
Subject: [Users] Faulty? message display
In-Reply-To: <20120928102948.3d50a6ea@pcug.org.au>
References: <20120928102948.3d50a6ea@pcug.org.au>
Message-ID: <20120928104352.2d5d709f@busgosu.mones.org>
Hi Owen,
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:29:48 +1000
Owen wrote:
> Google search suggested the subject should be;
>
> "Disable Date Events Smart Links in Email Display" but there was no
> answer, and seems to be related to a calendaring program.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2562776?start=0&tstart=0 ???
> Anyway, here is my problem.
>
>
> Claws does not seem to be able to correctly display emails.
Open a bug report and attach the mail file, removing sensitive information
first if needed, of course. Don't forget to say which HTML plugin are you
using too, if any.
> Mon 29
> th
> * Oct* North We have some
> vacancies for anyone interested. ???
>
> Tuesday 6
> th
> Nov. South
>
>
> The header suggests it comes from a Windows program
>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0
>
>
> A friend with Thunderbird says they read correctly in that program
Don't forget to attach the bug an screenshot of that correct rendering,
please. If possible also attach the screenshot of the original expected
rendering.
>
> Are there any suggestions as to what I may have missing or need to do
> to remove the xml
Unless a proper namespace is attached that's not even XML. Anyway, without
seeing the mail neither how it should be rendered there's not much it can
be done or said.
Nevertheless, note that Claws Mail never claimed to be able to render
arbitrary XML, just HTML (which those tags are not).
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From scriptkiddie at wp.pl Fri Sep 28 13:25:26 2012
From: scriptkiddie at wp.pl (Marek Szuba)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 13:25:26 +0200
Subject: [Users] MS Exchange + IMAP = truncated messages
Message-ID: <20120928132526.3115d68d@iklxds18>
Hello there!
I haven't been able to find any messages pertaining to the subject in
the archive so here goes. One of my e-mail accounts resides on a
Microsoft Exchange 2007 server and I connect to it using IMAP. After
recent changes to the server configuration, I have begun to see from
time to time messages which appear to be badly truncated - not even all
the headers make it through. The problem may or may not be Claws
Mail-specific - while I have seen similar behaviour connecting to the
same IMAP server using Alpine, there are messages displaying correctly
in the latter that Claws sees as malformed. Also, all the problematic
messages look fine in Web Outlook (not having Windows around, haven't
tried standalone Outlook) as well as Thunderbird.
I suspect the problem might be related to the infamous "Enable fast
message retrieval" setting in Exchange which has been known to relax
the server's adherence to the IMAP RFC. A discussion on how this issue
affected Thunderbird, see here:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92111
That said, I haven't heard from the admins yet whether the setting in
question is enabled on the server or not.
Anyway, I would greatly appreciate it if you could help me fix this
problem. If you need any additional information, by all means let me
know! Oh, and I run Claws Mail 3.8.0 (as packaged in Ubuntu "Precise")
on a Linux/AMD64 machine.
Best regards,
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From ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk Fri Sep 28 14:05:32 2012
From: ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk (Kevin Chadwick)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 13:05:32 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
In-Reply-To: <20120928023721.8C09385543@mx.colino.net>
References:
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Message-ID: <858268.41642.bm@smtp142.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
> Google represents a new scale of mail server. If I ran
> something that large, I might fly a few canaries too.
There is no difference between huge and huger. In order to comply with
the new greylisting RFCs, Google are going to have to move their
smtp farms behind fewer ips, track connections. Perhaps they
should do the same with their pop and imap services with the added
options of unifying certificates or implement changes much more
succinctly (all do-able). OTOH the certs are all kept in the certs
folder and could be re-used but as certificate revocation and OCSP is
completely insecure, perhaps a warning should simply be changed to
'accept? - note it has been previously accepted'.
p.s. Googles SSL is non standard and breaks servers, a much more
important and silent issue that is hard to troubleshoot by anyone but
them.
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From jerry at seibercom.net Fri Sep 28 14:36:04 2012
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 08:36:04 -0400
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
In-Reply-To: <20120928011509.B580485543@mx.colino.net>
References:
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Message-ID: <20120928083604.773d05e0@scorpio>
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 03:15:09 +0200 (CEST)
noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk articulated:
> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2738
> --- Comment #12 from ratinox 2012-09-28 03:15:09 ---
> > I have done so. That's the core of the problem, and why it makes
> > Claws behavior look stupid. Accept means accept - don't ask me
> > again.
>
> The SSL specifications stipulate that a socket (combination of IP
> address and port) have exactly one valid SSL certificate associated
> with it.
>
> Google's procedure for distributing new SSL certificates results in
> sockets presenting multiple different SSL certificates.
>
> Google is wrong. Claws Mail is correct in barking about it. Even
> though it may look stupid to you it is the correct behavior according
> to the SSL specifications.
Since its inception, Google's mail servers have been non-conforming.
Interestingly enough, if this was Microsoft and not Google the
open-source community would be up in arms. Since it is Google they
simply choose to blindly accept such behavior.
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From jerry at seibercom.net Fri Sep 28 14:43:11 2012
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 08:43:11 -0400
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
In-Reply-To: <20120928073129.9EC7F853DB@mx.colino.net>
References:
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Message-ID: <20120928084311.50eb29df@scorpio>
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 09:31:29 +0200 (CEST)
noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk articulated:
> Standards are there for a reason and it is not to annoy users.
I live standards; there are so many to choose from.
By the way, standards are put in place in all to many cases to support
a de facto operational state or level of development and thereby hinder
or prevent the development and implementation of newer and more robust
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 28 15:22:02 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 15:22:02 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
In-Reply-To:
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--- Comment #16 from IgnorantGuru 2012-09-28 15:22:02 ---
> Actually, the solution Brad pointed out is spot-on as it was implemented
> precisely to deal with GMail's issue. See manual for its description. It was
> initially named "multiple_ssl_certs" and got renamed because storing multiple
> certificates for one host is actually unsafe, as has been pointed out.
>
> Read the manual for a precise description of that option, and to know whether
> or not is applies to the current situation.
>
> So we did consider that issue, we did work on it to provide a solution, it is
> documented, all of these happened a few years ago and that is why I just closed
> your bug report.
Thanks for the genuine reply. If this is such a well-known issue, your initial
reply could have been more helpful - perhaps a link to (or even mention of) a
known solution or help page instead of a warning not to reopen the issue
because it would be ignored anyway.
You say Brad is spot-on, but he says:
> Claws has a mechanism that allows you to silently accept certs...
> Some consider this to be unwise, since it could allow bogus certs to be
> accepted silently.
Doesn't sound very encouraging - it makes it sound like Claws will no longer
prompt when a new certificate is encountered, which is not what I want. Nor is
the one line in the manual on this helpful - it doesn't define the behavioral
change that this option entails, it doesn't mention any potential use for the
option, and it doesn't mention GMail or the cert rotation issue. It's instead
about as brief and mysterious as it could be.
So does this option silently accept all certs, silently accept only signed
certs, silently accept only certs that have already been previously approved by
the user (what I want), etc? What exactly does it do? And why exactly is it
considered unsafe? What are the ramifications of enabling it and what
potential exploits does it open? If you're suggesting I enable something
labeled 'unsafe' to correct your UI problem, you could at least document it. I
still don't see why using a cert that's I've explicitly accepted is a problem.
The only difference is that for a brief period there are two valid and
*user-accepted* keys for the same server. So what?
Further, it's buried in hidden preferences. I think a simple option on the
Accept dialog that says 'Accept both of these certificates and don't ask me
again' would be a much more user-friendly solution. Or a custom dialog could
be displayed which explains that it appears a key is merely being changed and
giving the user a few options to prevent the wildly repetitive behavior Claws
currently exhibits. It is a GUI app, after all.
So if you addressed this issue already, it doesn't appear you have addressed it
very effectively, in the GUI or in the docs.
It's obvious a lot of work went into Claws, and I often describe it to others
as an example of how stable and functional Linux apps can be. I was surprised
to find the dev team so dysfunctional for a simple issue. I don't think this
issue is the end of the world. I merely wanted to bring it to your attention
(including the fact that however you think you have handled it, it's not very
effective for the user encountering the problem). The replies I received to a
simple bug report were rude, defensive, etc. I still think you have an
unresolved usability issue (which is why you're still hearing about it). You
can deny that with whatever arguments you want, but results speak.
As for standards and their inevitable extensions, it's always a tricky issue,
but comparing what Microsoft did with IE to this issue is a bit of a stretch.
If you feel it's a genuine security problem (despite the user examining and
approving both keys explicitly), then I think a more user-friendly solution is
all the more indicated, since the default behavior creates confusing and thus
unsafe use.
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From ratinox at gweep.net Fri Sep 28 17:32:33 2012
From: ratinox at gweep.net (ratinox at gweep.net)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:32:33 -0400
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
In-Reply-To: <20120928083604.773d05e0@scorpio>
References:
<20120928011509.B580485543@mx.colino.net>
<20120928083604.773d05e0@scorpio>
Message-ID: <20120928113233.00006ad1@unknown>
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 08:36:04 -0400
Jerry wrote:
> open-source community would be up in arms. Since it is Google they
> simply choose to blindly accept such behavior.
The irony is not lost on me. Particularly since Microsoft has of late
been a significant contributor to the Linux kernel.
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From fbongor at hotmail.com Fri Sep 28 18:41:23 2012
From: fbongor at hotmail.com (Fred Bongor)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 09:41:23 -0700
Subject: [Users] disable forwarding as an attachment
Message-ID:
I can't seem to find this answer in the documentation or mailing list. When I forward a message, two copies of the original email are forwarded, one in the body and one as an attachment. No configuration option seems to change this behavior. I'd like to disable the attachment getting generated so I don't have to constantly go manually deleting it.
I've finally turned to asking in exasperation.
thanks...
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From ratinox at gweep.net Fri Sep 28 18:57:39 2012
From: ratinox at gweep.net (ratinox at gweep.net)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:57:39 -0400
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
In-Reply-To: <20120928023721.8C09385543@mx.colino.net>
References:
<20120928023721.8C09385543@mx.colino.net>
Message-ID: <20120928125739.00001780@unknown>
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 04:37:21 +0200 (CEST)
noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:
> 'correct'. If it wants to bark about it, it should do so in a
> functional way which enhances security and is usable. What it
Automatically accepting multiple certificates for a socket is a
security risk. For example, a certificate obtained from a compromised
CA can be used in MITM attacks. DigiNotar revealed last year that it
was tricked into issuing a valid wild card SSL cert for Google. Prior to
that, Comodo revealed that it had been tricked into issuing valid
certificates for Google, Yahoo and Skype.
From an algorithmic perspective there is no difference between Google's
"rotating" of SSL certificates and a third party MITM attack using a
valid but illegal certificate on a spoofed IP. The trust chains link
back to valid CAs and valid signatures. The only reliable way to
determine a certificate's authenticity is using the Mark I Eyeball to
compare certificates to known and verified goods every time the
certificates change. Anything else leaves your accounts
silently vulnerable to MITM attacks.
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From colin at colino.net Fri Sep 28 19:49:48 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:49:48 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
In-Reply-To: <20120928125739.00001780@unknown>
References:
<20120928023721.8C09385543@mx.colino.net>
<20120928125739.00001780@unknown>
Message-ID: <20120928194948.577770cb@mike>
On 28 September 2012 at 12h57, ratinox at gweep.net wrote:
Hi,
> > 'correct'. If it wants to bark about it, it should do so in a
> > functional way which enhances security and is usable. What it
>
> Automatically accepting multiple certificates for a socket is a
> security risk. For example, a certificate obtained from a compromised
> CA can be used in MITM attacks. DigiNotar revealed last year that it
> was tricked into issuing a valid wild card SSL cert for Google. Prior
> to that, Comodo revealed that it had been tricked into issuing valid
> certificates for Google, Yahoo and Skype.
>
> >From an algorithmic perspective there is no difference between
> >Google's
> "rotating" of SSL certificates and a third party MITM attack using a
> valid but illegal certificate on a spoofed IP. The trust chains link
> back to valid CAs and valid signatures. The only reliable way to
> determine a certificate's authenticity is using the Mark I Eyeball to
> compare certificates to known and verified goods every time the
> certificates change. Anything else leaves your accounts
> silently vulnerable to MITM attacks.
Thanks for your comment, which explains things better than I would
have done :) I'm going to paste it on the bug report.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Sep 28 19:52:53 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:52:53 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120928175253.EB7F1854ED@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2738
--- Comment #17 from Colin Leroy 2012-09-28 19:52:53 ---
Yes, Brad was spot-on on the option to use, but it's true that he mostly
described the skip_ssl_check option :)
Accepting and saving multiple certificates for a single host is less safe in
the following way (quoting ratinox at gweep.net on the ML):
> 'correct'. If it wants to bark about it, it should do so in a
> functional way which enhances security and is usable. What it
Automatically accepting multiple certificates for a socket is a
security risk. For example, a certificate obtained from a compromised
CA can be used in MITM attacks. DigiNotar revealed last year that it
was tricked into issuing a valid wild card SSL cert for Google. Prior to
that, Comodo revealed that it had been tricked into issuing valid
certificates for Google, Yahoo and Skype.
>From an algorithmic perspective there is no difference between Google's
"rotating" of SSL certificates and a third party MITM attack using a
valid but illegal certificate on a spoofed IP. The trust chains link
back to valid CAs and valid signatures. The only reliable way to
determine a certificate's authenticity is using the Mark I Eyeball to
compare certificates to known and verified goods every time the
certificates change. Anything else leaves your accounts
silently vulnerable to MITM attacks.
Also, further discussion on the subject would be more in-place on the
mailing-list than on Bugzilla.
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From ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk Fri Sep 28 20:28:02 2012
From: ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk (Kevin Chadwick)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:28:02 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bulk] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
In-Reply-To: <20120928175253.EB7F1854ED@mx.colino.net>
References:
<20120928175253.EB7F1854ED@mx.colino.net>
Message-ID: <931762.22698.bm@smtp126.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
> Accepting and saving multiple certificates for a single host is less safe in
> the following way (quoting ratinox at gweep.net on the ML):
Conversely though there is no difference between accepting three
previously accepted certificates as accepting one as long as the same
checks have occurred and it is not silent, as going back to an old
certificate could be a problem but as long as the user is made aware
perhaps with when it was last seen, it shouldn't be.
The users job could be made easier or the user just made more aware as
manually accomplishing checking if the cert was previously accepted is
easy when understood. Estimating the risks of going back to an expiring
certificate is obviously more difficult but likely far less risky or
the risk perhaps already taken than a completely new certificate,
atleast if checking ability is limited.
p.s. When this happened on yahoo I switched to US servers for a week. I
understood the cert was being upgraded eventually but didn't understand
fully, why it happened or why claws behaved differently at the time.
Now hurry up world and give us a trusted limited yet redundant core
infrastructure, dns or not considering the state of that perhaps double
checked with a web of trust that server admins can check is correct or
that can ask our servers for before protecting with it's bundled key so
we can all drop CAs.
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universal interface'
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From ratinox at gweep.net Fri Sep 28 22:41:31 2012
From: ratinox at gweep.net (ratinox at gweep.net)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:41:31 -0400
Subject: [Users] [Bulk] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
In-Reply-To: <931762.22698.bm@smtp126.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References:
<20120928175253.EB7F1854ED@mx.colino.net>
<931762.22698.bm@smtp126.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20120928164131.00007b52@unknown>
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:28:02 +0100
Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> Conversely though there is no difference between accepting three
> previously accepted certificates as accepting one as long as the same
> checks have occurred and it is not silent, as going back to an old
> certificate could be a problem but as long as the user is made aware
> perhaps with when it was last seen, it shouldn't be.
Well, yes, there is. Once an SSL certificate is superseded it is
superseded forever. This follows from the requirement that a socket
have exactly one certificate.
Say that a compromised Comodo or DigiNotar certificate for Google got
into your certificate cache. If Claws Mail did what you describe then it
would continue to silently use this valid (because it is valid within
the CA trust structure) certificate until the compromise is discovered
and the certificate is revoked. Or, as in the DigiNotar case, the entire
CA is removed from the root CA list.
Since you've mistakenly, unwittingly perhaps, approved the valid but
inauthentic certificate it will be used whenever you get the spoofed
socket instead of the real deal. And it will continue to be used
forever or until its expiry date or until revoked once someone notices.
Or you can use Claws Mail in its default state which will let you know
that maybe something isn't kosher.
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From ricardo at mones.org Sat Sep 29 03:00:33 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:00:33 +0200
Subject: [Users] disable forwarding as an attachment
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120929030033.0873b963@busgosu.mones.org>
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 09:41:23 -0700
Fred Bongor wrote:
> I can't seem to find this answer in the documentation or mailing list.
> When I forward a message, two copies of the original email are forwarded,
> one in the body and one as an attachment. No configuration option seems
> to change this behavior. I'd like to disable the attachment getting
> generated so I don't have to constantly go manually deleting it.
You don't tell us which version of Claws Mail are you using, anyway, I
cannot reproduce what you describe with forward (one copy in body) or
forward as attachment (one copy attached).
Seems you are using redirect function instead, which, as its name
implies, is not forwarding. Use any of the other two for forwarding.
regards,
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00:45 < hammar> cool.. have you used rssyl?
00:46 <@Ticho> um, yes Seen on #sylpheed
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From ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk Sat Sep 29 14:42:25 2012
From: ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk (Kevin Chadwick)
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 13:42:25 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bulk] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
In-Reply-To: <20120928164131.00007b52@unknown>
References:
<20120928175253.EB7F1854ED@mx.colino.net>
<931762.22698.bm@smtp126.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
<20120928164131.00007b52@unknown>
Message-ID: <644659.49940.bm@smtp132.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
> > Conversely though there is no difference between accepting three
> > previously accepted certificates as accepting one as long as the same
> > checks have occurred and it is not silent, as going back to an old
> > certificate could be a problem but as long as the user is made aware
> > perhaps with when it was last seen, it shouldn't be.
>
> Well, yes, there is. Once an SSL certificate is superseded it is
> superseded forever. This follows from the requirement that a socket
> have exactly one certificate.
>
> Say that a compromised Comodo or DigiNotar certificate for Google got
> into your certificate cache. If Claws Mail did what you describe then it
> would continue to silently use this valid (because it is valid within
> the CA trust structure) certificate until the compromise is discovered
> and the certificate is revoked. Or, as in the DigiNotar case, the entire
> CA is removed from the root CA list.
>
If you re-read what I had said you should see that I understand that
and is something that due to bad design can only be involved currently
in user checks, it doesn't change the fact that accepting one or three
certificates security wise is irrelevant as long as the user evaluates
the currently used certificate, it could be that the new cert is a
rogue or compromised certificate and the old one is secure and we can't
depend on automatic revocation. I'm sure you realise too that if your
data had been captured in the past it is also open to replay attacks,
something Google has apparently tried to battle with non standard
perfect forward secrecy which may??? be the reason that Google breaks
some/many systems at the MTA level to no SSL at all.
SSL is broken but claws should be a little more informative. I guess
this does show that any message would have to point to more
information which may be why it is so.
> Since you've mistakenly, unwittingly perhaps, approved the valid but
> inauthentic certificate it will be used whenever you get the spoofed
> socket instead of the real deal. And it will continue to be used
> forever or until its expiry date or until revoked once someone notices.
>
> Or you can use Claws Mail in its default state which will let you know
> that maybe something isn't kosher.
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universal interface'
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 29 19:45:10 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 19:45:10 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2581] expander arrows are too tiny to hit with the
mouse
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120929174510.8707685398@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2581
--- Comment #3 from Tom Horsley 2012-09-29 19:45:09 ---
Created an attachment (id=1162)
--> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1162)
patch for making hotspot bigger
This finally made me crazy enough that I dug up the fedora source rpm and
patched the sctree_is_hot_spot routine (which the debugger disclosed was the
one that is used in the folder tree where I have the most problems). I don't
actually understand what I really did, but it sure seemed that the PM_SIZE
constant was used to determine the size when drawing the microscopic arrows, so
in the hotspot check, I just made it 3 times bigger, and now I just need to
click close to it, not directly on top of it. I hope this can be incorporated
officially real soon now :-).
I found another *_is_hot_spot routine that might need the same treatment, but I
was never able to determine when it actually gets used, so I didn't fool with
it.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Sep 29 20:59:34 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 20:59:34 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2738] Erroneous rotation of SSL certificates
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20120929185934.589C085398@mx.colino.net>
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2738
--- Comment #18 from Brian Morrison 2012-09-29 20:59:32 ---
>If you're suggesting I enable something labeled 'unsafe' to correct
>your UI problem
No, we're suggesting that you can use an unsafe method of dealing with Google's
inadequate SSL certificate setup. Complain at them if you want this fixed.
If you're not happy with the manual, then feel free to edit it and submit
changes to the FAQ and for inclusion in the full manual.
Nothing in this world is perfect, I suspect you will find that other MUAs that
do not notice this issue are potentially less secure than Claws. At least it
gives you the chance to see that bad things are going on, in my book that
includes Google acting stupidly.
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From freebsd at grem.de Sat Sep 29 23:41:50 2012
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 23:41:50 +0200
Subject: [Users] Mailing patches and utf-8
Message-ID: <20120929234150.1dcfb387@bsd64.grem.de>
Hi,
I mailed a patch containing utf-8 characters recently and at the
receiving side the characters got garbled. Claws itself shows the patch
correctly.
The mime structure is:
...
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="MP_/l2SRWsGWoVAuwHaSxfL=MMK"
--MP_/l2SRWsGWoVAuwHaSxfL=MMK
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
Blablablablabla
--MP_/l2SRWsGWoVAuwHaSxfL=MMK
Content-Type: text/x-patch
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=blablabla.patch
...
+- "Config.Path=3D./config/=E4=B8=AD=E5=9B=BD_client.=
...
So the attachment has no charset whatsoever (which I think is correct,
since quote printable itself is 7bit ASCII and in the absence of any
further charset specification the receiving end should either assume
ASCII or UTF-8 (which both - when applied transparently - shouldn't
yield the results I've seen). Based on the results it seems that the
receiving side converts it to a different default charset.
So, am I correct to assume that Claws handled this correctly and that I
should contact the maintainer of the receiving side to figure out what
went wrong?
Thanks,
Michael
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 30 12:53:28 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 12:53:28 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2739] New: Claws-Mail hangs after clicking on MH
folder (folder.c:2045:TIMING folder_item_open : 179s974ms)
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2739
Summary: Claws-Mail hangs after clicking on MH folder
(folder.c:2045:TIMING folder_item_open : 179s974ms)
Product: Claws Mail
Version: 3.8.1
Platform: PC
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: Folders/MH
AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
ReportedBy: unsuspicious.fakename+computer at gmail.com
This happens when I try to change the folder I'm looking at quite often, but
only after a certain time: clicking repeatedly on different folders in a short
time does not seem to trigger the problem. Letting claws-mail run for a while
will have it trigger on the next time I click on a folder sooner or later.
Usually, claws-mail does not recover from this but needs to be killed. Since I
recompiled claws-mail with debug symbols and started it with gdb, it has
recovered a few times after waiting a few minutes (not always though - left it
run up to one hour with nothing happening)- I never witnessed this recovery
happen before / with the "normal" version run directly (it always froze
completely there as far as I can tell).
Below is the output from one of those cases where it mysteriously recovered -
in cases where it doesn't, it looks about the same, it just doesn't go on after
the multiple lines of "folderview" (each click on the claws-mail window gets me
2 more of those lines, but the GUI is not redrawn and nothing seems to happen).
______________
folderview.c:2118:newly selected 0xe21680, opened 0xe1af60
summaryview.c:1144:called inc_lock (lock count 1)
summaryview.c:1217:empty folder ((nil) (null) (nil) 0)
gtkhtml2_viewer.c:410:gtkhtml2_clear_viewer
summaryview.c:1229:called inc_unlock (lock count 0)
summaryview.c:1239:TIMING summary_show : 0s012ms
folder.c:2738:Save cache for folder #rssyl/MyFeeds/.Computer.RSSFeed
msgcache.c:1169: Writing message cache to
/home/user/.claws-mail/RSSyl/RSSFeed/.claws_cache.new and
/home/user/.claws-mail/RSSyl/RSSFeed/.claws_mark.new...
msgcache.c:1250:done.
msgcache.c:1251:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s177ms
folder.c:1216:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:984:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service files
folderview.c:2164:Folder inbox is selected
folderview.c:2180:Opening folder inbox...
mh.c:231:MH scan not required: /home/user/Mail/inbox (1348994186 <= 1348994186)
msgcache.c:274:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s001ms
folder.c:4431:processing inbox
folder.c:4434:called inc_lock (lock count 1)
msgcache.c:274:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
folderview.c:2118:newly selected 0xe1ffa0, opened (nil)
folderview.c:2139:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
folderview.c:2118:newly selected 0xe1ffa0, opened (nil)
folderview.c:2139:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
folderview.c:2118:newly selected 0xe21680, opened (nil)
folderview.c:2139:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
folderview.c:2118:newly selected 0xe21680, opened (nil)
folderview.c:2139:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
folderview.c:2118:newly selected 0xe1ffa0, opened (nil)
folderview.c:2139:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
folderview.c:2118:newly selected 0xe1ffa0, opened (nil)
folderview.c:2139:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
folderview.c:2118:newly selected 0xe21680, opened (nil)
folderview.c:2139:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
folderview.c:2118:newly selected 0xe21680, opened (nil)
folderview.c:2139:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
folderview.c:2118:newly selected 0xe1ffa0, opened (nil)
folderview.c:2139:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
folderview.c:2118:newly selected 0xe1ffa0, opened (nil)
folderview.c:2139:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
folderview.c:2118:newly selected 0xe1ffa0, opened (nil)
folderview.c:2139:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
folderview.c:2118:newly selected 0xe1ffa0, opened (nil)
folderview.c:2139:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
folderview.c:2118:newly selected 0xe21680, opened (nil)
folderview.c:2139:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
folderview.c:2118:newly selected 0xe21680, opened (nil)
folderview.c:2139:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
folderview.c:2118:newly selected 0xe1ffa0, opened (nil)
folderview.c:2139:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
folderview.c:2118:newly selected 0xe1ffa0, opened (nil)
folderview.c:2139:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
folderview.c:2118:newly selected 0xe1ffa0, opened (nil)
folderview.c:2139:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
folderview.c:2118:newly selected 0xe18060, opened (nil)
folderview.c:2139:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
** (claws-mail:16163): WARNING **: sock_read: No such file or directory
filtering.c:208:checking 2439 messages
filtering.c:245:no more messages to move/copy/del
folder.c:4485:called inc_unlock (lock count 0)
folder.c:2045:TIMING folder_item_open : 179s974ms
summaryview.c:1039:showing From , must show From
summaryview.c:1144:called inc_lock (lock count 1)
gtkhtml2_viewer.c:410:gtkhtml2_clear_viewer
summaryview.c:1251:Scanning folder (inbox)...
msgcache.c:274:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
summaryview.c:1120:TIMING summary_check_consistency : 0s000ms
summaryview.c:1370:TIMING summary_show removing hidden: 0s000ms
summaryview.c:3025: Setting summary from message data...
addr_compl.c:316:read 296 items in (null)
addr_compl.c:377:start_address_completion((null)) ref count 1
procmsg.c:287:TIMING procmsg_get_thread_tree thread by subject: 0s001ms
procmsg.c:297:TIMING procmsg_get_thread_tree : 0s005ms
summaryview.c:3066:TIMING summary_set_ctree_from_list threaded: 0s028ms
addr_compl.c:684:end_address_completion ref count 0
summaryview.c:3113:done.
summaryview.c:3116: msgid hash table size = 2435
summaryview.c:3119: subject hash table size = 0
summaryview.c:2888:Sorting summary...summaryview.c:2902:done.
summaryview.c:2909:TIMING summary_sort : 0s011ms
summaryview.c:3135:TIMING summary_set_ctree_from_list bold_unread: 0s000ms
summaryview.c:3140:TIMING summary_set_ctree_from_list : 0s043ms
summaryview.c:1502:
summaryview.c:1507:called inc_unlock (lock count 0)
summaryview.c:1508:TIMING summary_show : 0s135ms
folder.c:2574:Total cache memory usage: 3261018
folderview.c:2240:TIMING folderview_selected : 180s328ms
folderview.c:2118:newly selected 0xe21680, opened 0xe21680
folderview.c:2122:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
session.c:353:session (0x184c000): closed
folder.c:2155:Scanning folder processing for cache changes.
mh.c:289:mh_get_num_list(): Scanning processing ...
mh.c:1400:MH: forced mtime of processing to 1348989983
msgcache.c:602: Reading swapped message cache from
/home/user/.claws-mail/tempfolder/processing/.claws_cache...
msgcache.c:618:using Noop Converter
msgcache.c:790:done. (0 items read)
msgcache.c:791:Cache size: 0 messages, 0 bytes
msgcache.c:821:reading swapped mark file.
msgcache.c:907:reading swapped tags file.
folder.c:2713:TIMING folder_item_read_cache : 0s000ms
folder.c:2574:Total cache memory usage: 3261018
msgcache.c:274:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
msgcache.c:274:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
filtering.c:208:checking 0 messages
** (claws-mail:16163): WARNING **: [10:52:00] Error occurred while processing
mail.
mh.c:231:MH scan not required: /home/user/.claws-mail/tempfolder/processing
(1348989983 <= 1348989983)
folder.c:2738:Save cache for folder #mh/TEMP_FOLDER/processing
msgcache.c:1169: Writing message cache to (null) and (null)...
msgcache.c:1250:done.
msgcache.c:1251:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s000ms
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Sep 30 16:47:20 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 16:47:20 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2740] New: Claws hangs soon after it starts checking
for Mail
Message-ID:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2740
Summary: Claws hangs soon after it starts checking for Mail
Product: Claws Mail
Version: 3.8.0
Platform: PC
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: UI
AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
ReportedBy: hoeroe at arcor.de
I open Claws-Mail, press button to check mail on all (a dozen) accounts, wait
barely half a minute, then it happens. (in gdb it keeps printing forever the
line "folder.c:2262:Removed message 2147483647 from cache.") Reinstalled to no
avail.
Mint 13 xfce, Claws-Mail 3.8.0-1ubuntu1 with pgpinline, attach-warner, pgpmime,
trayicon, archiver-plugin, attach-remover, perl-filter, vcalendar-plugin,
address-keeper
(gdb) thread apply all bt
Thread 4 (Thread 0xb2a67b40 (LWP 2185)):
#0 0x00132416 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1 0x008d296b in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
#2 0x00a74c74 in mailsem_internal_wait () from /usr/lib/libetpan.so.15
#3 0x00a74e7d in mailsem_down () from /usr/lib/libetpan.so.15
#4 0x082545cb in thread_run (data=0x87a0e28) at etpan-thread-manager.c:324
#5 0x008ced4c in start_thread () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
#6 0x00cb7ace in clone () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
Thread 3 (Thread 0xb20ffb40 (LWP 2110)):
#0 0x00132416 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1 0x00ca9380 in poll () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#2 0x00986a7b in g_poll () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3 0x009790ae in ?? () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#4 0x0097956b in g_main_loop_run () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#5 0x00fa01ba in ?? () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgio-2.0.so.0
#6 0x0099c6b3 in ?? () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#7 0x008ced4c in start_thread () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
#8 0x00cb7ace in clone () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
Thread 1 (Thread 0xb7fd48c0 (LWP 2098)):
#0 0x00132416 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1 0x00ca71fb in write () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#2 0x00c3bb05 in _IO_file_write () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#3 0x00c3b9e4 in ?? () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#4 0x00c3d05e in _IO_do_write () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#5 0x00c3d415 in _IO_file_overflow () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#6 0x00c3c5a3 in _IO_file_xsputn () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#7 0x00c31115 in fputs () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#8 0x00980dfc in g_print () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#9 0x0824a975 in debug_print_real (format=0x82bec34 "Removed message %d from
cache.\n") at utils.c:3641
#10 0x081024bc in folder_item_scan_full (item=0x86e09b0, filtering=1) at
folder.c:2262
#11 0x081054f7 in folder_item_scan (item=0x86e09b0) at folder.c:2498
#12 0x0811092a in folderview_check_new (folder=0x86dfa90) at folderview.c:1197
#13 0x0812e509 in inc_all_account_mail (mainwin=0x84a68e8, autocheck=0,
notify=0) at inc.c:363
#14 0x0821ea1d in toolbar_inc_all_cb (widget=0x8461370, data=0x855b6b0) at
toolbar.c:1073
#15 0x008f2243 in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOIDv () from
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#16 0x008f0727 in ?? () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#17 0x00909a29 in g_signal_emit_valist () from
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#18 0x0090a8af in g_signal_emit_by_name () from
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#19 0x00392420 in ?? () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#20 0x008f2243 in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOIDv () from
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#21 0x008f0727 in ?? () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#22 0x00909a29 in g_signal_emit_valist () from
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#23 0x0090a453 in g_signal_emit () from
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#24 0x001ee21a in gtk_button_clicked () from
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#25 0x001ef630 in ?? () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#26 0x008f2243 in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOIDv () from
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#27 0x008eedb7 in ?? () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#28 0x008f0727 in ?? () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#29 0x00909a29 in g_signal_emit_valist () from
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#30 0x0090a453 in g_signal_emit () from
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#31 0x001ee13a in gtk_button_released () from
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#32 0x001ee184 in ?? () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#33 0x002ad8a2 in ?? () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#34 0x008ef2fd in ?? () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#35 0x008f0484 in g_closure_invoke () from
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#36 0x0090270d in ?? () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#37 0x00909ff5 in g_signal_emit_valist () from
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#38 0x0090a453 in g_signal_emit () from
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#39 0x003e7413 in ?? () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#40 0x002aba6e in gtk_propagate_event () from
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#41 0x002abe00 in gtk_main_do_event () from
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#42 0x00634758 in ?? () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
#43 0x00978d86 in g_main_context_dispatch () from
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#44 0x00979125 in ?? () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#45 0x0097956b in g_main_loop_run () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#46 0x002aab8f in gtk_main () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#47 0x0807feb7 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbffffa64) at main.c:1653
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