[Users] Cannot send mails

Knud Nolting nolting at live.de
Sun May 20 13:41:17 CEST 2012


As I wrote yesterday: It works fine now,using port 587 and STARTTLS. May be 
you could not read,because I did not change the subject line :-)
Thank you for your advice
Knud

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Today's Topics:

   1. Why can't I use d as a hotkey (Steve Litt)
   2. Re: Why can't I use d as a hotkey :p: (Thomas C. Hicks)
   3. Troubles with claws-mail 3.8 upgrade (Thomas C. Hicks)
   4. Re: Why can't I use d as a hotkey :p: (Steve Litt)
   5. Re: Why can't I use d as a hotkey :p: :p: (Thomas C. Hicks)
   6. Re: Why can't I use d as a hotkey :p: :p: (Paul)
   7. Re: Troubles with claws-mail 3.8 upgrade (Paul)
   8. Re: Cannot send mails (Paul)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 19:05:37 -0400
From: Steve Litt<slitt at troubleshooters.com>
To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Subject: [Users] Why can't I use d as a hotkey
Message-ID: <20120519190537.4261f235 at mydesk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

Hi all,

I'm using Claws 3.7.9, after just upgrading from Ubuntu 11.04 + Gnome 2
to Ubuntu 11.10 + Xfce. Before, I had been using the keystroke d as the
hotkey to move to trash, and I really liked it that way. Now I can no
longer use d. I can use x, or pretty much any other unused keystroke,
as a hotkey for "move to trash", but when I hover the "move to trash"
selection on the menu, and press the d key, instead of recording the
keystroke it acts like I pressed Enter and just goes ahead and
terminates the menu, and then moves the item to the trash. It does this
if I hover the "reply" menu selection also. It's as if, somewhere deep
in the system, there's still some sort of a link from the d key to
"move to trash", but it's not available on the menu. If I press the d
key without hovering a menu, nothing happens.

I looked throughout the menu hierarchy and see no item with d as a
hotkey. I used a file manager to view all the likely candidates in
$HOME/.claws-mail but could find no file storing hotkeys.

What would be my next step in figuring out how to assign d to "move to
trash?"

Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt                *  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 09:08:19 +0800
From: "Thomas C. Hicks" <paradox at pobox.com>
To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Subject: Re: [Users] Why can't I use d as a hotkey :p:
Message-ID: <20120520090819.3ec5286a at midgel>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Sat, 19 May 2012 19:05:37 -0400
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm using Claws 3.7.9, after just upgrading from Ubuntu 11.04 + Gnome
> 2 to Ubuntu 11.10 + Xfce. Before, I had been using the keystroke d as
> the hotkey to move to trash, and I really liked it that way. Now I
> can no longer use d. I can use x, or pretty much any other unused
> keystroke, as a hotkey for "move to trash", but when I hover the
> "move to trash" selection on the menu, and press the d key, instead
> of recording the keystroke it acts like I pressed Enter and just goes
> ahead and terminates the menu, and then moves the item to the trash.
> It does this if I hover the "reply" menu selection also. It's as if,
> somewhere deep in the system, there's still some sort of a link from
> the d key to "move to trash", but it's not available on the menu. If
> I press the d key without hovering a menu, nothing happens.
>
> I looked throughout the menu hierarchy and see no item with d as a
> hotkey. I used a file manager to view all the likely candidates in
> $HOME/.claws-mail but could find no file storing hotkeys.
>
> What would be my next step in figuring out how to assign d to "move to
> trash?"
>
> Thanks
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt                *  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
> Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

I am having my own troubles with hotkeys (and other things) today after
an upgrade.  I can share that the $HOME/.claws-mail/menurc file stores
entries for hotkey definitions if that helps.

thomas


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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 09:22:41 +0800
From: "Thomas C. Hicks" <paradox at pobox.com>
To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Subject: [Users] Troubles with claws-mail 3.8 upgrade
Message-ID: <20120520092241.40f6e9df at midgel>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

I recently upgraded from Ubuntu 10.04 to Xubuntu 12.04.  Along with
that I installed claws-mail from the current repos and got version
3.8.  I am using the same $HOME/.claws-mail directory to run the new
version.  I have noticed a few odd things:

1. Can't send and receive mail - When I try with the new install I only
get "SSL Handshake failed" errors.  I am using the same setup as my
3.7.4 install in which everything worked beautifully. In fact I kept
the Ubuntu 10.04 install in a separate partition and when I boot into
that I can use claws-mail normally.  I can't find a solution to this
online so any input is appreciated.

2. Python plugin - I installed the python plugin but can't browse and
edit my plugin scripts from within claws-mail.  When I go to Tools >
Python Scripts > Browse, nothing happens.  Again the files are there in
my .claws-mail directory and this all works normally when I boot to the
older Ubuntu and run 3.7.4.

Any input, suggested reading, etc. is appreciated.  I am a long time
claws user and have loved it because of its stability.  Since it is so
stable I have not upgraded or had to change any settings in at least 2
years!

thomas


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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 01:13:48 -0400
From: Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com>
To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Subject: Re: [Users] Why can't I use d as a hotkey :p:
Message-ID: <20120520011348.19d824d9 at mydesk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Sun, 20 May 2012 09:08:19 +0800, Thomas C. Hicks said:
> On Sat, 19 May 2012 19:05:37 -0400
> Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm using Claws 3.7.9, after just upgrading from Ubuntu 11.04 +
> > Gnome 2 to Ubuntu 11.10 + Xfce. Before, I had been using the
> > keystroke d as the hotkey to move to trash, and I really liked it
> > that way. Now I can no longer use d. I can use x, or pretty much
> > any other unused keystroke, as a hotkey for "move to trash", but
> > when I hover the "move to trash" selection on the menu, and press
> > the d key, instead of recording the keystroke it acts like I
> > pressed Enter and just goes ahead and terminates the menu, and then
> > moves the item to the trash. It does this if I hover the "reply"
> > menu selection also. It's as if, somewhere deep in the system,
> > there's still some sort of a link from the d key to "move to
> > trash", but it's not available on the menu. If I press the d key
> > without hovering a menu, nothing happens.
> >
> > I looked throughout the menu hierarchy and see no item with d as a
> > hotkey. I used a file manager to view all the likely candidates in
> > $HOME/.claws-mail but could find no file storing hotkeys.
> >
> > What would be my next step in figuring out how to assign d to "move
> > to trash?"
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > SteveT
> >
> > Steve Litt                *  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
> > Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance
> > _______________________________________________
> > Users mailing list
> > Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
>
> I am having my own troubles with hotkeys (and other things) today
> after an upgrade.  I can share that the $HOME/.claws-mail/menurc file
> stores entries for hotkey definitions if that helps.
>
> thomas
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users


Hi Thomas,

It helps a bunch. My /home/slitt/.claws-mail/menurc is a zero length
file. So something's sure getting wierd, because I've changed a few of
the hotkeys.

Hmmmm.

Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt                *  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
                          *  http://twitter.com/stevelitt
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance



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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 15:33:03 +0800
From: "Thomas C. Hicks" <paradox at pobox.com>
To: Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com>
Cc: "users at lists.claws-mail.org" <users at lists.claws-mail.org>
Subject: Re: [Users] Why can't I use d as a hotkey :p: :p:
Message-ID: <20120520153303.62eb2d45 at midgel>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Sun, 20 May 2012 01:13:48 -0400
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 20 May 2012 09:08:19 +0800, Thomas C. Hicks said:
> > On Sat, 19 May 2012 19:05:37 -0400
> > Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I'm using Claws 3.7.9, after just upgrading from Ubuntu 11.04 +
> > > Gnome 2 to Ubuntu 11.10 + Xfce. Before, I had been using the
> > > keystroke d as the hotkey to move to trash, and I really liked it
> > > that way. Now I can no longer use d. I can use x, or pretty much
> > > any other unused keystroke, as a hotkey for "move to trash", but
> > > when I hover the "move to trash" selection on the menu, and press
> > > the d key, instead of recording the keystroke it acts like I
> > > pressed Enter and just goes ahead and terminates the menu, and
> > > then moves the item to the trash. It does this if I hover the
> > > "reply" menu selection also. It's as if, somewhere deep in the
> > > system, there's still some sort of a link from the d key to "move
> > > to trash", but it's not available on the menu. If I press the d
> > > key without hovering a menu, nothing happens.
> > >
> > > I looked throughout the menu hierarchy and see no item with d as a
> > > hotkey. I used a file manager to view all the likely candidates in
> > > $HOME/.claws-mail but could find no file storing hotkeys.
> > >
> > > What would be my next step in figuring out how to assign d to
> > > "move to trash?"
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > SteveT
> > >
> > > Steve Litt                *  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
> > > Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Users mailing list
> > > Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> > > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
> >
> > I am having my own troubles with hotkeys (and other things) today
> > after an upgrade.  I can share that the $HOME/.claws-mail/menurc
> > file stores entries for hotkey definitions if that helps.
> >
> > thomas
> > _______________________________________________
> > Users mailing list
> > Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
>
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> It helps a bunch. My /home/slitt/.claws-mail/menurc is a zero length
> file. So something's sure getting wierd, because I've changed a few of
> the hotkeys.
>
> Hmmmm.
>
> Thanks
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt                *  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
>                           *  http://twitter.com/stevelitt
> Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance
>
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

Sounds like you need a new menurc file, even the original one without
changes would be a step in the right direction!  I am not sure where to
get one short of reinstalling claws-mail, hopefully someone on this
list more familiar with the package will chime in soon.

thomas



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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 09:39:32 +0100
From: Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>
To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Subject: Re: [Users] Why can't I use d as a hotkey :p: :p:
Message-ID: <20120520093932.4111fdbc at thewildbeast>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Sun, 20 May 2012 15:33:03 +0800
"Thomas C. Hicks" <paradox at pobox.com> wrote:

> I am not sure where to
> get one short of reinstalling claws-mail, hopefully someone on this
> list more familiar with the package will chime in soon.

All you have to do is remove the current menurc and a new one will be
created.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me,
but to a collector it is worth a fortune


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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 09:43:22 +0100
From: Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>
To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Subject: Re: [Users] Troubles with claws-mail 3.8 upgrade
Message-ID: <20120520094322.66fe6a3f at thewildbeast>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Sun, 20 May 2012 09:22:41 +0800
"Thomas C. Hicks" <paradox at pobox.com> wrote:

> Any input, suggested reading, etc. is appreciated.  I am a long time
> claws user and have loved it because of its stability.  Since it is
> so stable I have not upgraded or had to change any settings in at
> least 2 years!

It could be a permissions problem. Did you copy the old .claws-mail
directory to your new installation?

In my opinion, you should always upgrade when a new version is
released. This is self-evident though - it we didn't think that then
we wouldn't have any reason to do new releases.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me,
but to a collector it is worth a fortune


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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 09:48:32 +0100
From: Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>
To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Subject: Re: [Users] Cannot send mails
Message-ID: <20120520094832.35e021ad at thewildbeast>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On Fri, 18 May 2012 16:40:31 +0200
Knud Nolting <nolting at live.de> wrote:

> The following problem is not to solve until now:
>
> I want to use my hotmail-account in Claws Mail: It is like
> myname at live.de. hotmail told me to use the following servers:
> POP3-Server: pop3.live.com (Port 995)
> SMTP Server: smtp.live.com (Port 25)
> they also told me to use:
> SSL for POP3 and SMTP
> SMTP- Authentification
> I can get mails but I can not send messages,after about 50 seconds
> I get the message,that the time for the session is over and the
> message is not send. I have installed Claws Mail 3.7.9, as OS
> Lubuntu 11.10 I had Sylpheed before, had the same problems with
> sylpheed.That?s why I changed to Claws. But with the same
> result.( until now I did not post the problem to the
> sylpheed-mail-list.) I posted to the Ubuntu-Forums,but they don?t
> know how to help me.
>
> So, I hope that I can get help here.
> I?m new to Linux, not very much experience with computers,until now
> I worked with windows as OS.

>From what I read, if you're using SSL then the SMTP port must be 587
and not 25.

with regards

Paul


-- 
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but to a collector it is worth a fortune


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