From inpost at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 01:18:28 2012 From: inpost at gmail.com (e-letter) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 00:18:28 +0000 Subject: [Users] imap cache or mbox Message-ID: Readers, I want to save a mail account of messages to CD. There seems to be an option to save either the cache of messages downloaded to a local disk or to export to mbox format. Can some advise (dis)advantages of these options please? From jseymour at LinxNet.com Thu Mar 1 14:44:28 2012 From: jseymour at LinxNet.com (James Seymour) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 08:44:28 -0500 Subject: [Users] Including Email(s) As Atttachments? Message-ID: <20120301084428.00004eb4@skynet> Hi All, Perhaps I'm missing something obvious *again*, but I've twice recently found a need to compose a new email and include two other emails as attachments. The only way I've found to do it is File -> Save As... the emails I wished to attach to the new one and then attach the saved files. (The saved files of which I then have to turn around and delete.) Seems kinda clunky. Is there a more elegant way? Thanks, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at . From colin at colino.net Thu Mar 1 14:55:43 2012 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:55:43 +0100 Subject: [Users] Including Email(s) As Atttachments? In-Reply-To: <20120301084428.00004eb4@skynet> References: <20120301084428.00004eb4@skynet> Message-ID: <20120301145543.05678f2a@colin> On Thu, 1 Mar 2012 08:44:28 -0500, James Seymour wrote: Hi, > Perhaps I'm missing something obvious *again*, but I've twice recently > found a need to compose a new email and include two other emails as > attachments. The only way I've found to do it is File -> Save As... > the emails I wished to attach to the new one and then attach the saved > files. (The saved files of which I then have to turn around and > delete.) Seems kinda clunky. Is there a more elegant way? A) Open new mail, select mail(s) to attach, drag'n'drop them to the compose window's body area and choose Attach, or B) select mail(s) to attach, use Forward as Attachment. HTH :) -- Colin From rol at witbe.net Thu Mar 1 15:26:52 2012 From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=)) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 15:26:52 +0100 Subject: [Users] Including Email(s) As Atttachments? In-Reply-To: <20120301084428.00004eb4@skynet> References: <20120301084428.00004eb4@skynet> Message-ID: <20120301152652.6b2897ec@tux.DEF.witbe.net> Hello, On Thu, 1 Mar 2012 08:44:28 -0500 James Seymour wrote: > Perhaps I'm missing something obvious *again*, but I've twice recently > found a need to compose a new email and include two other emails as > attachments. The only way I've found to do it is File -> Save As... > the emails I wished to attach to the new one and then attach the saved > files. (The saved files of which I then have to turn around and > delete.) Seems kinda clunky. Is there a more elegant way? What about Drag'n'Drop ? Compose your new email, this should create a new window, Go back to the message list, select a message to include, drag and drop it on the window of the message you are composing, and it is automagically attached to your new mail. Repeat that for all the emails you want to attach. Paul -- TelcoTV Awards 2011 - Witbe winner in "Innovation in Test & Measurement" Paul Rolland E-Mail : rol(at)witbe.net CTO - Witbe.net SA Tel. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 77 Les Collines de l'Arche Fax. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 99 F-92057 Paris La Defense RIPE : PR12-RIPE LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulrolland Skype : rollandpaul "I worry about my child and the Internet all the time, even though she's too young to have logged on yet. Here's what I worry about. I worry that 10 or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say 'Daddy, where were you when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?'" --Mike Godwin, Electronic Frontier Foundation -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Mar 1 19:47:22 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 19:47:22 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2621] message view should close on deletion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120301184722.F18CF8540B@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2621 --- Comment #4 from Paul 2012-03-01 19:47:22 --- mones +1 -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From jseymour at LinxNet.com Fri Mar 2 00:03:15 2012 From: jseymour at LinxNet.com (Jim Seymour) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:03:15 -0500 Subject: [Users] Including Email(s) As Atttachments? In-Reply-To: <20120301084428.00004eb4@skynet> References: <20120301084428.00004eb4@skynet> Message-ID: <20120301180315.3a9de802@jimsun> Thanks, Colin and Paul. Drag-n-drop did the trick. Never thought of that :p Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at . From secipolla at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 15:28:16 2012 From: secipolla at gmail.com (Sergio Cipolla) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 11:28:16 -0300 Subject: [Users] About 'new mail' and Gmail and notification pop-up. Message-ID: Hello. I use Claws 3.8.0 in Debian sid/Xfce and have the notification plugin installed from the Debian package claws-mail-multi-notifier. I have only two Gmail accounts set up in Claws. I noticed that there isn't never a 'new' mail as all new mails are treated as 'unread' and I thought that's ok as maybe it's just how it works with webmail. But the pop-up notification (libnotify) never worked, neither with new mails nor by hovering the tray icon (I suppose it should work in both cases from what I understood from the preferences). Tray icon hovering only shows a normal tooltip. Then I put 1+1 and got it that maybe it isn't working simply because it works only with 'new' mails and not with 'unread' ones. Did I get it right? If so, is there a way to tweak it to show 'unread' mails (maybe have to modify the source code)? If not, this would be a feature request. Thank you. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Mar 2 17:30:51 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 17:30:51 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2621] message view should close on deletion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120302163051.4DE77853C2@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2621 --- Comment #5 from Pawel Pekala 2012-03-02 17:30:49 --- After giving myself some time for thought.. I think we should display next message in message list upon deletion. This make a lot more sense to me then blank window with bad title and busy cursor. When there are no more messages in current folder display short info about no more messages in folder. Checking with competition they are doing something similiar. I'm not sure if this is good for trash folders too, still thinking about it. What do you guys think? -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Mar 2 17:53:45 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 17:53:45 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2621] message view should close on deletion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120302165346.0D186853C2@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2621 --- Comment #6 from wwp 2012-03-02 17:53:45 --- But we must not forget obey the settings.. according to them, we might not have to auto-open a message when another one is selected (if "open message when selected" is "never" for instance). BTW, I wonder how the OT was referring to the message view, or to possibly opened separate message windows? -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From secipolla at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 18:33:17 2012 From: secipolla at gmail.com (Sergio) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 14:33:17 -0300 Subject: [Users] About 'new mail' and Gmail and notification pop-up. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120302143317.38a0ea14@debian.athlon> On Fri, 2 Mar 2012 11:28:16 -0300 Sergio Cipolla wrote: > Hello. > I use Claws 3.8.0 in Debian sid/Xfce and have the notification plugin > installed from the Debian package claws-mail-multi-notifier. > I have only two Gmail accounts set up in Claws. I noticed that there > isn't never a 'new' mail as all new mails are treated as 'unread' and > I thought that's ok as maybe it's just how it works with webmail. > But the pop-up notification (libnotify) never worked, neither with new > mails nor by hovering the tray icon (I suppose it should work in both > cases from what I understood from the preferences). Tray icon hovering > only shows a normal tooltip. > Then I put 1+1 and got it that maybe it isn't working simply because > it works only with 'new' mails and not with 'unread' ones. Did I get > it right? > If so, is there a way to tweak it to show 'unread' mails (maybe have > to modify the source code)? > If not, this would be a feature request. > > Thank you. I found http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2451 so it's a +1 from me. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Mar 2 18:52:47 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 18:52:47 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2621] message view should close on deletion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120302175247.8FADD853C2@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2621 --- Comment #7 from Abhay S. Kushwaha 2012-03-02 18:52:47 --- I would request the developers to dumb things down to the user's thought process. We don't understand views, etc. What we do understand is this: 1. If I don't have a message view open, if I double-click on a message, it opens up in a pop-up window. 2. The pop-up window *is* the message. #2 above is where your thinking as a developer becomes a problem. You guys think the pop-up window is a view displaying the message that was double-clicked, and hitting the keyboard accelerator to display the next message in the same window is 'OK'. It's not. As a user, if I delete a message, I expect it to disappear from view, along with any windows it created. Now, workflow wise, you might be accustomed to browsing around in the message view and destroying windows on deletion will definitely be a problem. But call it semantics if you will, that "detached" message view should not be created by double-clicking a message. It's confusing to a 'normal' user. I'll put it differently to explain the hairline difference here. ONE. When the message view is in the main CM window. Users understand it displays the message selected. You delete the message, the view either displays the next selected message or goes blank. Expected behaviour. TWO. When you double-click a message and open the message in a new window. For a normal user, that's not a "detached" message view. That's a message, opened up separately, in a window of its own. Message deleted should mean window going away because the message does not exist. This is reinforced by the fact that yuo can double-click multiple messages to open each in a different window. In a "detached" message view, the window would only display the selected message, in a window of its own. Killing double-clicked message-windows on message deletion is expected behaviour. Killing "detached" message view on message deletion should not destroy the "detached" message view. I hope I've been able to explain the difference and the developers will keep CM the intuitive and easy-to-use MUA we know it to be. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Mar 2 19:21:45 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 19:21:45 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2621] message view should close on deletion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120302182145.B8EA2853C2@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2621 --- Comment #8 from Abhay S. Kushwaha 2012-03-02 19:21:45 --- Two clarifications/corrections to what I wrote above: 1. I know double-clicking a message to create a window for that message does not depend on the state of "message view" in the main CM window. 2. When I wrote "Killing "detached" message view on message deletion should not destroy the "detached" message view." I meant, "Deleting message should not destroy the "detached" message view. It should behave as the normal message view inside main CM window." -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From linxt at comcast.net Sat Mar 3 03:14:13 2012 From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 18:14:13 -0800 Subject: [Users] Problem with CM address Book Message-ID: <20120302181413.59d0ca85@desktop-1.home> Hi Fellow Clawsers; In Claws-Mail 3.8.0 under openSuSE 12.2-M1 (beta version), my address book had a problem and it seemed as though I had lost all the addresses. Upon further inspection, The address book showed no entries so I went back through my folders and rebuilt an address book although it doesn't contain the entire list. In the ./claws-mail/addrbook I see several versions of address book entries with a .xml suffix. Some of these should contain a valid address book. The problem, how do I revert to one of these older versions? I found menu items for importing various formats but not .xml format. Should I modify (after saving) the addrbook-index to show one of the earlier versions? I don't want to do something that would cause even greater problems. Thanks, Tom -- Tom Taylor - retired penguin openSUSE 11.4 x86_64 openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 openSUSE 12.2-M# x86_64 KDE 4.6.00, FF 4.0 KDE 4.7.2, FF 8.0 KDE 4.7.9, FF 10.0 claws-mail 3.8.0 registered linux user 263467 linxt-At-comcast-DoT-net From slitt at troubleshooters.com Sat Mar 3 09:54:41 2012 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 03:54:41 -0500 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2621] message view should close on deletion In-Reply-To: <20120302163051.4DE77853C2@mx.colino.net> References: <20120302163051.4DE77853C2@mx.colino.net> Message-ID: <20120303035441.5fafa4a3@mydesk> On Fri, 2 Mar 2012 17:30:51 +0100 (CET) noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2621 > > > > > > --- Comment #5 from Pawel Pekala 2012-03-02 17:30:49 --- > After giving myself some time for thought.. > > I think we should display next message in message list > upon deletion. This make a lot more sense to me then > blank window with bad title and busy cursor. When there are > no more messages in current folder display short info > about no more messages in folder. Checking with competition > they are doing something similiar. > > I'm not sure if this is good for trash folders too, > still thinking about it. > > What do you guys think? Personally, I like the way it is in version 3.7.8, at least for the purposes of the delete style where it remains marked and not moved to the trash folder right away. SteveT From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Mar 3 10:29:44 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 10:29:44 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2622] New: Additional Age/Time Evaluations for Filtering/Quicksearch Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2622 Summary: Additional Age/Time Evaluations for Filtering/Quicksearch Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.8.0 Platform: PC OS/Version: Windows NT Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: Filtering AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org ReportedBy: clawsmail at kushwaha.com Currently messages can be filtered by age in days, weeks, etc. Could you please also enable evaluation by number of hours since it will make things very, very useful. I am often searching for messages that arrived between certain time periods and a combo like "ag 3 h & al 4 h" is going to be awesome. Alternatively, maybe allow search for timestamps so I could search for messages that were sent between 3pm and 4pm. And by combination with other filters like the age evaluation, it would make search much, much, much powerful. For example: "Show me messages sent between midnight and 9am" and then "limit them to last 7 days". Maybe implement both!? That would be so incredible! -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From c0rn at o2.pl Sat Mar 3 11:03:33 2012 From: c0rn at o2.pl (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3_P=EAkala?=) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 11:03:33 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2621] message view should close on deletion In-Reply-To: <20120303035441.5fafa4a3@mydesk> References: <20120302163051.4DE77853C2@mx.colino.net> <20120303035441.5fafa4a3@mydesk> Message-ID: <20120303110333.2ba9151c@o2.pl> Dnia 2012-03-03, o godz. 03:54:41 Steve Litt napisał(a): >Personally, I like the way it is in version 3.7.8, at least for the >purposes of the delete style where it remains marked and not moved to >the trash folder right away. That's because you have Preferences->Summaries->Execute immediately when moving or deleting messages set to off. -- pozdrawiam / with regards Paweł Pękala From pf at pfortin.com Sun Mar 4 18:27:31 2012 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 12:27:31 -0500 Subject: [Users] Issue in need of ideas: Too many folders Message-ID: <20120304122731.5d19f3e8@pfortin.com> Hi, Looking for ideas... I've been using SC/CM for over 10 years now and have accumulated a LOT of folders (~6.5 screens to scroll through). So this is now becoming quite cumbersome and I was thinking about some possible solutions... Any coding solution should by optional so as not to disrupt other users' experience with the best mailer IMO. My idea is to use a cascading menu toggle (like "Edit->Auto-wrapping") where the menu head is each folder's expansion triangle. Each folder would have a show/hide toggle -- this would allow only the most active/chosen folders to appear in the folder view without having to show all the other less active folders which waste display space, resulting in wasted time finding a particular one. Rarely used folders would auto-display when a new messages arrive in them. May need a "[ ] Never hide folders with unread messages" option too. :) I can't think of a reason for hiding all folders, other than not using "Default To:" and "Save to..." folder options to compose. Organized folders only get me so far when opening a branch in the current tree which shows lots of less active folders along with the desired one(s)... Does this sound like a reasonable idea before I formalize an enhancement request? Other thoughts on overcoming this issue? Thanks and Cheers, Pierre PS While I have archived some folders, each time I do, typically within a few days something comes up where I need to find something just archived. Also, even though I run 2 instances of CM to segregate business/personal from collaboration emails, both now suffer from this issue. From linxt at comcast.net Sun Mar 4 22:44:03 2012 From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 13:44:03 -0800 Subject: [Users] Issue in need of ideas: Too many folders In-Reply-To: <20120304122731.5d19f3e8@pfortin.com> References: <20120304122731.5d19f3e8@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20120304134403.5667bc7d@desktop-1.home> On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 12:27:31 -0500 Pierre Fortin wrote: > Hi, > > Looking for ideas... > > I've been using SC/CM for over 10 years now and have accumulated a LOT of > folders (~6.5 screens to scroll through). So this is now becoming quite > cumbersome and I was thinking about some possible solutions... Any coding > solution should by optional so as not to disrupt other users' experience > with the best mailer IMO. > > My idea is to use a cascading menu toggle (like "Edit->Auto-wrapping") > where the menu head is each folder's expansion triangle. Each folder > would have a show/hide toggle -- this would allow only the most > active/chosen folders to appear in the folder view without having to show > all the other less active folders which waste display space, resulting in > wasted time finding a particular one. > Cascading already exists in CM > Rarely used folders would auto-display when a new messages arrive in them. > > May need a "[ ] Never hide folders with unread messages" option too. :) > I can't think of a reason for hiding all folders, other than not using > "Default To:" and "Save to..." folder options to compose. > > Organized folders only get me so far when opening a branch in the > current tree which shows lots of less active folders along with the > desired one(s)... > not sure what you mean here. > Does this sound like a reasonable idea before I formalize an > enhancement request? > > Other thoughts on overcoming this issue? > > Thanks and Cheers, > Pierre > > PS While I have archived some folders, each time I do, typically within a > few days something comes up where I need to find something just archived. > Also, even though I run 2 instances of CM to segregate business/personal > from collaboration emails, both now suffer from this issue. > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users Hi Pierre; Maybe start with cascading sub-folders that are normally closed? For instance, I have a folder under MH called User_Groups. Under that I have a sub-folder for each user group which in turn contain other sub-folders for various uses. I normally leave the top folder closed so it doesn't take up so much space, only opening it when needed. I use color coding actions for the top folder to indicate new messages in the sub-folders. To create a structure that would reduce the number of pages would probably require some innovative menus as to what sub-folders would go under what top level folders. I know I've rearranged my folder structure several times over the years. Tom -- Tom Taylor - retired penguin openSUSE 11.4 x86_64 openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 openSUSE 12.2-M# x86_64 KDE 4.6.00, FF 4.0 KDE 4.7.2, FF 8.0 KDE 4.7.9, FF 10.0 claws-mail 3.8.0 registered linux user 263467 linxt-At-comcast-DoT-net From linxt at comcast.net Mon Mar 5 02:25:36 2012 From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 17:25:36 -0800 Subject: [Users] Attachments no visible Message-ID: <20120304172536.12ce026d@desktop-1.home> I'm having a problem with attachments. In the message list the messages show that they have attachments but when the message is opened, no attachment is displayed. This only seems to happen when the sender is using an AOL account. Is there a way to force the attachment (at least the pdf filename) to be visible or to be able to open the attachment when it's not visible? Thanks, Tom CM 3.8.0 -- Tom Taylor - retired penguin openSUSE 11.4 x86_64 openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 openSUSE 12.2-M# x86_64 KDE 4.6.00, FF 4.0 KDE 4.7.2, FF 8.0 KDE 4.7.9, FF 10.0 claws-mail 3.8.0 registered linux user 263467 linxt-At-comcast-DoT-net From pf at pfortin.com Mon Mar 5 02:29:22 2012 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 20:29:22 -0500 Subject: [Users] Issue in need of ideas: Too many folders In-Reply-To: <20120304134403.5667bc7d@desktop-1.home> References: <20120304122731.5d19f3e8@pfortin.com> <20120304134403.5667bc7d@desktop-1.home> Message-ID: <20120304202922.17c86738@pfortin.com> Hi Tom, Thanks for the feedback... On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 13:44:03 -0800 Thomas Taylor wrote: >On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 12:27:31 -0500 >Pierre Fortin wrote: >> My idea is to use a cascading menu toggle (like "Edit->Auto-wrapping") aka: boolean >> where the menu head is each folder's expansion triangle. Each folder Just a suggestion... will probably need another icon to serve as menu head. LOL... almost suggested a checkbox on each folder to hide it; but where would it show on hidden folders... DOH! >> would have a show/hide toggle -- this would allow only the most >> active/chosen folders to appear in the folder view without having to >> show all the other less active folders which waste display space, >> resulting in wasted time finding a particular one. >> > >Cascading already exists in CM Cascading folders, yes. Cascading folders with per-folder Show/Hide, not unless I've missed it after all these years... and no, I still haven't found all of CM's features... :) >> Rarely used folders would auto-display when a new messages arrive in >> them. >> >> May need a "[ ] Never hide folders with unread messages" option too. :) >> I can't think of a reason for hiding all folders, other than not using >> "Default To:" and "Save to..." folder options to compose. >> >> Organized folders only get me so far when opening a branch in the >> current tree which shows lots of less active folders along with the >> desired one(s)... >> > >not sure what you mean here. Which part? The additional suggestion re new/unread messages, or the background info about how the current tree display shows less-oft used directories (the ones I'd like to hide)? >Hi Pierre; >Maybe start with cascading sub-folders that are normally closed? For >instance, I have a folder under MH called User_Groups. Under that I >have a sub-folder for each user group which in turn contain other >sub-folders for various uses. I normally leave the top folder closed so >it doesn't take up so much space, only opening it when needed. I use >color coding actions for the top folder to indicate new messages in the >sub-folders. Been doing that for years... including down to years and months/quarters like this: level1/level2/2004/{Q{1.2.3.4},Jan,...,Dec} The problem is that there is no one-size-fits-all solution which is why I'm suggesting this feature to hide many of the less used folders. If I had this, my nearly 7 screens of 40+ folders could be more manageable on a single screen of 30-40 folders without having to display all the sub-folders just because they're present. Even color-coding folders has reached diminishing manageability for my 355 folders (and counting)... :) >To create a structure that would reduce the number of pages would >probably require some innovative menus as to what sub-folders would go >under what top level folders. I know I've rearranged my folder >structure several times over the years. Not looking for innovative menus... just a simple boolean attached to each folder indicating Show/Hide. The code that displays each folder in the tree already decides to color and/or bold the folder name, display counts, etc. A 'hide' boolean would preclude these decisions... a bonus would be making CM *much* faster by not having to process hidden folders -- unless unhidden by user or incoming mail. :) >Tom Hope that's clearer... haven't coded in C since the mid-80s when C was WAY simpler, otherwise I'd prefer to submit a patch... Cheers, Pierre From linxt at comcast.net Mon Mar 5 02:29:52 2012 From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 17:29:52 -0800 Subject: [Users] Problem with CM address Book-Paul or Colin? In-Reply-To: <20120302181413.59d0ca85@desktop-1.home> References: <20120302181413.59d0ca85@desktop-1.home> Message-ID: <20120304172952.2895a194@desktop-1.home> On Fri, 2 Mar 2012 18:14:13 -0800 Thomas Taylor wrote: > Hi Fellow Clawsers; > In Claws-Mail 3.8.0 under openSuSE 12.2-M1 (beta version), my address book had > a problem and it seemed as though I had lost all the addresses. Upon further > inspection, The address book showed no entries so I went back through my > folders and rebuilt an address book although it doesn't contain the entire > list. > > In the ./claws-mail/addrbook I see several versions of address book entries > with a .xml suffix. Some of these should contain a valid address book. The > problem, how do I revert to one of these older versions? I found menu items > for importing various formats but not .xml format. Should I modify (after > saving) the addrbook-index to show one of the earlier versions? I don't want > to do something that would cause even greater problems. > > Thanks, Tom > Any input on this? -- Tom Taylor - retired penguin openSUSE 11.4 x86_64 openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 openSUSE 12.2-M# x86_64 KDE 4.6.00, FF 4.0 KDE 4.7.2, FF 8.0 KDE 4.7.9, FF 10.0 claws-mail 3.8.0 registered linux user 263467 linxt-At-comcast-DoT-net From pf at pfortin.com Mon Mar 5 02:57:44 2012 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 20:57:44 -0500 Subject: [Users] Problem with CM address Book-Paul or Colin? In-Reply-To: <20120304172952.2895a194@desktop-1.home> References: <20120302181413.59d0ca85@desktop-1.home> <20120304172952.2895a194@desktop-1.home> Message-ID: <20120304205744.6394756b@pfortin.com> On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 17:29:52 -0800 Thomas Taylor wrote: >On Fri, 2 Mar 2012 18:14:13 -0800 >Thomas Taylor wrote: > >> Hi Fellow Clawsers; >> In Claws-Mail 3.8.0 under openSuSE 12.2-M1 (beta version), my address >> book had a problem and it seemed as though I had lost all the >> addresses. Upon further inspection, The address book showed no >> entries so I went back through my folders and rebuilt an address book >> although it doesn't contain the entire list. >> >> In the ./claws-mail/addrbook I see several versions of address book >> entries with a .xml suffix. Some of these should contain a valid >> address book. The problem, how do I revert to one of these older >> versions? I found menu items for importing various formats but >> not .xml format. Should I modify (after saving) the addrbook-index to >> show one of the earlier versions? I don't want to do something that >> would cause even greater problems. >> >> Thanks, Tom >> > >Any input on this? Just a WAG... close CM cd ~/.claws-mail mv addressbook.xml addressbook.xml.incomplete cp -a addrbook/addrbook-0000xx.xml addressbook.xml start CM Just undo if that doesn't work. HTH Pierre From gh at gregor-horvath.com Mon Mar 5 07:10:25 2012 From: gh at gregor-horvath.com (Gregor Horvath) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 07:10:25 +0100 Subject: [Users] Email privacy Tester Message-ID: <20120305071025.24452728@brasov> Hi, I've just tested https://grepular.com/email_privacy_tester/ When I open the test email with claws html viewer with images disabled I get: Test succeeded. If you can see this message then your email client is leaking information about when you read your email and which IP you read it fromStatus: 404 Content-Length: 2696 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Page Not Found

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$ claws-mail --version Claws Mail version 3.7.6 Can I do somethin against this? -- Greg From linxt at comcast.net Mon Mar 5 08:13:22 2012 From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 23:13:22 -0800 Subject: [Users] [SOLVED]Re: Problem with CM address Book-Paul or Colin? In-Reply-To: <20120304205744.6394756b@pfortin.com> References: <20120302181413.59d0ca85@desktop-1.home> <20120304172952.2895a194@desktop-1.home> <20120304205744.6394756b@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20120304231322.52f97e6b@desktop-1.home> On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 20:57:44 -0500 Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 17:29:52 -0800 Thomas Taylor wrote: > > >On Fri, 2 Mar 2012 18:14:13 -0800 > >Thomas Taylor wrote: > > > >> Hi Fellow Clawsers; > >> In Claws-Mail 3.8.0 under openSuSE 12.2-M1 (beta version), my address > >> book had a problem and it seemed as though I had lost all the > >> addresses. Upon further inspection, The address book showed no > >> entries so I went back through my folders and rebuilt an address book > >> although it doesn't contain the entire list. > >> > >> In the ./claws-mail/addrbook I see several versions of address book > >> entries with a .xml suffix. Some of these should contain a valid > >> address book. The problem, how do I revert to one of these older > >> versions? I found menu items for importing various formats but > >> not .xml format. Should I modify (after saving) the addrbook-index to > >> show one of the earlier versions? I don't want to do something that > >> would cause even greater problems. > >> > >> Thanks, Tom > >> > > > >Any input on this? > > Just a WAG... > > close CM > cd ~/.claws-mail > mv addressbook.xml addressbook.xml.incomplete > cp -a addrbook/addrbook-0000xx.xml addressbook.xml > start CM > > Just undo if that doesn't work. > > HTH > Pierre > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users Thanks for the response Pierre; Although your answer didn't fix the problem, it did get me to thinking along a different line. I ended up having to open each of the addrbook#.xml files to determine which ones contained the data I wanted. I then had to edit addrbook-index.xml, changing the filenames there to reflect what I wanted. That did the trick. Tom -- Tom Taylor - retired penguin openSUSE 11.4 x86_64 openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 openSUSE 12.2-M# x86_64 KDE 4.6.00, FF 4.0 KDE 4.7.2, FF 8.0 KDE 4.7.9, FF 10.0 claws-mail 3.8.0 registered linux user 263467 linxt-At-comcast-DoT-net From rol at witbe.net Mon Mar 5 08:45:51 2012 From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=)) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 08:45:51 +0100 Subject: [Users] Email privacy Tester In-Reply-To: <20120305071025.24452728@brasov> References: <20120305071025.24452728@brasov> Message-ID: <20120305084551.7682e9b7@tux.DEF.witbe.net> Hello, On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 07:10:25 +0100 Gregor Horvath wrote: > I've just tested > > https://grepular.com/email_privacy_tester/ > > When I open the test email with claws html viewer with images disabled I > get: > $ claws-mail --version > Claws Mail version 3.7.6 Well, I just did the same test using Claws 3.8.0, GtkHTML2 HTML Viewer, images loading disabled, and the test is Ok for me. I guess there may be something in your settings that's causing the "leak"... Paul -- TelcoTV Awards 2011 - Witbe winner in "Innovation in Test & Measurement" Paul Rolland E-Mail : rol(at)witbe.net CTO - Witbe.net SA Tel. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 77 Les Collines de l'Arche Fax. +33 (0)1 47 67 77 99 F-92057 Paris La Defense RIPE : PR12-RIPE LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulrolland Skype : rollandpaul "I worry about my child and the Internet all the time, even though she's too young to have logged on yet. Here's what I worry about. I worry that 10 or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say 'Daddy, where were you when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?'" --Mike Godwin, Electronic Frontier Foundation -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Mar 5 09:00:41 2012 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 08:00:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] Email privacy Tester In-Reply-To: <20120305071025.24452728@brasov> References: <20120305071025.24452728@brasov> Message-ID: <20120305080041.5486933b@thewildbeast> On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 07:10:25 +0100 Gregor Horvath wrote: > I've just tested > > https://grepular.com/email_privacy_tester/ > > When I open the test email with claws html viewer with images > disabled I get: > > Test succeeded. If you can see this message then your email client > is leaking information about when you read your email and which IP > you read it fromStatus: 404 Content-Length: 2696 Content-Type: > text/html; charset=UTF-8 You didn't say which html rendering plugin you were using. But, if you allow remote content in the settings, then there's no surprise that the test succeeded. OTOH, the fancy plugin does let a few things through even when it should not. GTKHTML2 Viewer doesn't let anything through. And, of course, not using an html rendering plugin doesn't let anything through. with regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Mar 5 09:37:14 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 09:37:14 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2621] message view should close on deletion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120305083714.3A27685388@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2621 --- Comment #9 from Ricardo Mones 2012-03-05 09:37:13 --- Pawel, agreed on showing next message, but only if user preferences say so, as wwp noted. Otherwise the "This message has been deleted" (or similar) in the window still applies. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From ricardo at mones.org Mon Mar 5 09:49:04 2012 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 09:49:04 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2621] message view should close on deletion In-Reply-To: <20120305083714.3A27685388@mx.colino.net> References: <20120305083714.3A27685388@mx.colino.net> Message-ID: <20120305084904.GN15789@trasgu> On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 09:37:14AM +0100, noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2621 > > --- Comment #9 from Ricardo Mones 2012-03-05 09:37:13 --- > Pawel, agreed on showing next message, but only if user preferences say so, as > wwp noted. Otherwise the "This message has been deleted" (or similar) in the > window still applies. To be consistent this would even apply in the normal message view, as Abhay said, both should behave the same not to fool users (and to simplify code :) regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ RTFM - "Read The Manual" (The 'F' is silent). Usually a very good idea. Bjarne Stroustrup -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Mar 5 11:34:12 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 11:34:12 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2623] New: Segmentation fault on viewing PDF attachments (plugin issue?) Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2623 Summary: Segmentation fault on viewing PDF attachments (plugin issue?) Product: Claws Mail Version: CVS Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Other AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org ReportedBy: marcel at hsdev.com Created an attachment (id=1091) --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1091) Backtrace of segmentation fault When a message has a PDF attachment, I get consistent and reproduceable segmentation faults when I let claws (through the pdf_viewer plugin) display the PDF file. Opening the attachment through an external handler does not produce the segfault. I've attached a backtrace produced by gdb. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From gh at gregor-horvath.com Mon Mar 5 11:51:56 2012 From: gh at gregor-horvath.com (Gregor Horvath) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 11:51:56 +0100 Subject: [Users] Email privacy Tester In-Reply-To: <20120305080041.5486933b@thewildbeast> References: <20120305071025.24452728@brasov> <20120305080041.5486933b@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20120305115156.1661e7be@brasov> Am Mon, 5 Mar 2012 08:00:41 +0000 schrieb Paul : > On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 07:10:25 +0100 > Gregor Horvath wrote: > > > I've just tested > > > > https://grepular.com/email_privacy_tester/ > > > > When I open the test email with claws html viewer with images > > disabled I get: > > > > Test succeeded. If you can see this message then your email client > > is leaking information about when you read your email and which IP > > you read it fromStatus: 404 Content-Length: 2696 Content-Type: > > text/html; charset=UTF-8 > > You didn't say which html rendering plugin you were using. But, if > you allow remote content in the settings, then there's no surprise > that the test succeeded. gtkhtmlviewer2 Version: 0.27 loading remote images is disabled. There is no other option for remote content. -- Greg From colin at colino.net Mon Mar 5 12:06:26 2012 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 12:06:26 +0100 Subject: [Users] Email privacy Tester In-Reply-To: <20120305084551.7682e9b7@tux.DEF.witbe.net> References: <20120305071025.24452728@brasov> <20120305084551.7682e9b7@tux.DEF.witbe.net> Message-ID: <20120305120626.491d757e@colin> On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 08:45:51 +0100, Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) wrote: > > When I open the test email with claws html viewer with images > > disabled I get: > > $ claws-mail --version > > Claws Mail version 3.7.6 > > Well, I just did the same test using Claws 3.8.0, GtkHTML2 HTML > Viewer, images loading disabled, and the test is Ok for me. No problem for me either, using GtkhtmlViewer 0.31 (and Claws 3.8.0). When I clicked "Load remote images", the following tests triggered: 5,7,11,18,19. Upgrade, the triggering test is the html/manifest one, and it's fixed since (by 0.30cvs3 and 0.30cvs4). -- Colin From pf at pfortin.com Mon Mar 5 13:38:40 2012 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 07:38:40 -0500 Subject: [Users] [SOLVED]Re: Problem with CM address Book-Paul or Colin? In-Reply-To: <20120304231322.52f97e6b@desktop-1.home> References: <20120302181413.59d0ca85@desktop-1.home> <20120304172952.2895a194@desktop-1.home> <20120304205744.6394756b@pfortin.com> <20120304231322.52f97e6b@desktop-1.home> Message-ID: <20120305073840.26aa6450@pfortin.com> On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 23:13:22 -0800 Thomas Taylor wrote: >Thanks for the response Pierre; >Although your answer didn't fix the problem, it did get me to thinking >along a different line. I ended up having to open each of the >addrbook#.xml files to determine which ones contained the data I >wanted. I then had to edit addrbook-index.xml, changing the filenames >there to reflect what I wanted. That did the trick. > >Tom Glad it helped, Tom... I fell asleep before sending a follow-up as I'd realized by examining my own files that my info was marginal. Looking at my own addrbook files, it appears that the index file defines the "Sources" list. which makes sense. The only oddity I didn't expect when I sent the WAG, is that the addressbook.xml file is not listed in the index file. That file also has a blank line where the line normally resides; but my addressbook.xml does contain: sections which get merged with the addrbook files... I now suspect addressbook.xml may be the original address file (from SC days) because mine only contains 4 entries which would be the ones I would have started with years ago. Never too late to learn more... :) Pierre From pf at pfortin.com Mon Mar 5 14:17:45 2012 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 08:17:45 -0500 Subject: [Users] [SOLVED]Re: Problem with CM address Book-Paul or Colin? In-Reply-To: <20120305073840.26aa6450@pfortin.com> References: <20120302181413.59d0ca85@desktop-1.home> <20120304172952.2895a194@desktop-1.home> <20120304205744.6394756b@pfortin.com> <20120304231322.52f97e6b@desktop-1.home> <20120305073840.26aa6450@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20120305081745.2bda7dd7@pfortin.com> On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 07:38:40 -0500 Pierre Fortin wrote: >Looking at my own addrbook files, it appears that the index file defines >the "Sources" list. which makes sense. The only oddity I didn't expect >when I sent the WAG, is that the addressbook.xml file is not listed in >the index file. That file also has a blank line where the > >line normally resides; but my addressbook.xml does contain: > > >sections which get merged with the addrbook files... I was wrong... addressbook.xml is not used after all. Looks like an old SC leftover that I'm going to delete. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Mar 5 14:57:40 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 14:57:40 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2623] Segmentation fault on viewing PDF attachments (plugin issue?) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120305135740.B94F085388@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2623 --- Comment #1 from Salvatore De Paolis 2012-03-05 14:57:40 --- You should use the latest version of the plugin. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Mon Mar 5 15:01:57 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 15:01:57 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2623] Segmentation fault on viewing PDF attachments (plugin issue?) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120305140157.C50B785388@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2623 Marcel van der Boom changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |WORKSFORME --- Comment #2 from Marcel van der Boom 2012-03-05 15:01:56 --- I thought I was, but apparently overlooked something. I have forcibly recompiled the plugin from scratch and the problem disappeared. Apologies for the noise. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From gh at gregor-horvath.com Tue Mar 6 05:34:46 2012 From: gh at gregor-horvath.com (Gregor Horvath) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 05:34:46 +0100 Subject: [Users] Email privacy Tester In-Reply-To: <20120305120626.491d757e@colin> References: <20120305071025.24452728@brasov> <20120305084551.7682e9b7@tux.DEF.witbe.net> <20120305120626.491d757e@colin> Message-ID: <20120306053446.2fefcbda@brasov> Am Mon, 5 Mar 2012 12:06:26 +0100 schrieb Colin Leroy : > On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 08:45:51 +0100, Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) > wrote: > > > > When I open the test email with claws html viewer with images > > > disabled I get: > > > $ claws-mail --version > > > Claws Mail version 3.7.6 > > > > Well, I just did the same test using Claws 3.8.0, GtkHTML2 HTML > > Viewer, images loading disabled, and the test is Ok for me. > > No problem for me either, using GtkhtmlViewer 0.31 (and Claws 3.8.0). > When I clicked "Load remote images", the following tests triggered: > 5,7,11,18,19. > > Upgrade, the triggering test is the html/manifest one, and it's fixed > since (by 0.30cvs3 and 0.30cvs4). Ok. Thank you for the info. Time to upgrade... -- Gregor From laboulette at lavache.com Tue Mar 6 05:43:52 2012 From: laboulette at lavache.com (Luloi Liliane) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 05:43:52 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] Undeletable Auto-generated folders for IMAP accounts [generated via the wizard] Message-ID: <1965842377.14694.1331009032684.JavaMail.tomcat@http4alinto.alinto.net> hello, I use claws-mail to access my university account on IMAP on windows [the portable edition on portableapps.com]; however, the wizard automatically creates generic folders like "Sent", "Draft", "Queue" and "Trash" some of which do not match the pre-existing default folders set up by the university. Typically, the university's folder for sent emails is called "Sent items" and thus I wind up with two sent folders. In claws, it is impossible to delete the autocreated "Sent" folder but can delete the university "Sent items" folder In my university webmail, it is precisely the opposite; I can delete "sent" but cannot touch the default folder "Sent items" The same goes for the trash folders; they have different names. I know I can put my sent emails in a different folder than the one created by claws but I wish to keep my university original folders and not see the ones created by claws-mail; how do I do that ? regards -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In claws, it is impossible to delete the autocreated "Sent" folder but can delete the university "Sent items" folder In my university webmail, it is precisely the opposite; I can delete "sent" but cannot touch the default folder "Sent items" The same goes for the trash folders; they have different names. I know I can put my sent emails in a different folder than the one created by claws but I wish to keep my university original folders and not see the ones created by claws-mail; how do I do that ? regards You have to tell Claws where to put the mails, this FAQ entry explains it for a specific server (second screenshot), but applies to any server with non-standard folder names, just use your server names instead: http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Connecting_to_MS_Exchange regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ The three principal virtues of a programmer are Laziness, Impatience, and Hubris. man perl -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Mar 6 08:31:42 2012 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 07:31:42 +0000 Subject: [Users] Undeletable Auto-generated folders for IMAP accounts [generated via the wizard] In-Reply-To: <1965842377.14694.1331009032684.JavaMail.tomcat@http4alinto.alinto.net> References: <1965842377.14694.1331009032684.JavaMail.tomcat@http4alinto.alinto.net> Message-ID: <20120306073142.429a43d7@thewildbeast> On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 05:43:52 +0100 (CET) Luloi Liliane wrote: > hello, I use claws-mail to access my university account on IMAP on > windows [the portable edition on portableapps.com]; however, the > wizard automatically creates generic folders like "Sent", "Draft", > "Queue" and "Trash" some of which do not match the pre-existing > default folders set up by the university. Typically, the > university's folder for sent emails is called "Sent items" and thus > I wind up with two sent folders. In claws, it is impossible to > delete the autocreated "Sent" folder but can delete the university > "Sent items" folder In my university webmail, it is precisely the > opposite; I can delete "sent" but cannot touch the default folder > "Sent items" The same goes for the trash folders; they have > different names. I know I can put my sent emails in a different > folder than the one created by claws but I wish to keep my > university original folders and not see the ones created by > claws-mail; how do I do that ? regards I didn't know there was a portableapps.com version, (and more importantly, supposing there are modifications, I cannot find the modified source code anywhere.) What you need to do is open the folder properties for each of these folders and change the folder type. For example, change the Folder Type of 'Sent items' to 'Outbox', then you can delete 'Sent' and 'Sent items' will be the sent mail folder. (I think this is in the FAQ somewhere???) with regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From colin at colino.net Tue Mar 6 08:48:26 2012 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 08:48:26 +0100 Subject: [Users] Undeletable Auto-generated folders for IMAP accounts [generated via the wizard] In-Reply-To: <20120306073142.429a43d7@thewildbeast> References: <1965842377.14694.1331009032684.JavaMail.tomcat@http4alinto.alinto.net> <20120306073142.429a43d7@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20120306084826.5f2504d6@colin> On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 07:31:42 +0000, Paul wrote: > I didn't know there was a portableapps.com version, (and more > importantly, supposing there are modifications, I cannot find the > modified source code anywhere.) I think it's just an LD_PRELOAD-like repackaging. It seems to work nicely, too ! :) http://portableapps.com/node/27682 -- Colin From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Mar 6 08:51:12 2012 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 07:51:12 +0000 Subject: [Users] Attachments no visible In-Reply-To: <20120304172536.12ce026d@desktop-1.home> References: <20120304172536.12ce026d@desktop-1.home> Message-ID: <20120306075112.6297a039@thewildbeast> On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 17:25:36 -0800 Thomas Taylor wrote: > I'm having a problem with attachments. In the message list the > messages show that they have attachments but when the message is > opened, no attachment is displayed. This only seems to happen when > the sender is using an AOL account. > > Is there a way to force the attachment (at least the pdf filename) > to be visible or to be able to open the attachment when it's not > visible? This may be easier to answer if I had an example. Can you send me a copy privately, off-list, using 'redirect' or 'forward as attachment'? with regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Mar 7 09:52:43 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 09:52:43 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2624] New: dialog "Action Configuration" cannot be closed Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2624 Summary: dialog "Action Configuration" cannot be closed Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.8.0 Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: major Priority: P3 Component: Filtering AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org ReportedBy: housetier at nrrd.de When I click "Define" to define a new action for a filter, a dialog named "Action configuration" opens. This dialog window cannot be closed via normal means. Attempted methods of closing this dialog window: - clicking button OK - clicking button Cancel - clicking the 'X' from the window manager's window decoration - pressing ESC - typing window manager's keyboard shortcut for closing windows However,from the still opened dialog "Filtering configuration" I can open new dialogs for "Condition configuration", and these are closable. System Information: % lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 11.10 Release: 11.10 Codename: oneiric % apt-cache policy claws-mail claws-mail: Installed: 3.8-0-1ubuntu1ppa1 Candidate: 3.8-0-1ubuntu1ppa1 Version table: *** 3.8-0-1ubuntu1ppa1 0 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/claws-mail/ppa/ubuntu/ oneiric/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 3.7.9-1ubuntu2 0 500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/universe amd64 Packages This bug is reproducable. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From inpost at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 11:26:04 2012 From: inpost at gmail.com (e-letter) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:26:04 +0000 Subject: [Users] search for attachments Message-ID: Readers, Is it possible to search for message attachments? It would useful to be able to search for a attachment of a particular filename, ideally with regular expressions recognition. clawsmail375 From inpost at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 11:27:57 2012 From: inpost at gmail.com (e-letter) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:27:57 +0000 Subject: [Users] smtp error Message-ID: Readers, What is the following error (visible in the error log dialogue window: ** error occurred on SMTP session *** Error occurred while sending the message: 550 5.1.2 Cannot resolve your domain {mp-us011} Thanks. clawsmail375 From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Mar 7 12:23:18 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 12:23:18 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2624] dialog "Action Configuration" cannot be closed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120307112318.65151853F0@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2624 --- Comment #1 from K. Bronsen 2012-03-07 12:23:16 --- additional System Information: I use xfce as desktop environment. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Mar 7 17:07:30 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:07:30 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2625] New: Need selective IMAP folder scanning for new mail Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2625 Summary: Need selective IMAP folder scanning for new mail Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.7.9 Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Folders/IMAP AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org ReportedBy: holger at 99computing.co.uk I have Claws Mail pointing to four IMAP accounts with various folder structures set up on the server. Under Preferences, I checked "Scan every 10 minutes" and unchecked "Scan local folders" (there are none anyway). I also have one of the alert plugins that shows me a notification if I have new mail. The problem I am having is that Claws Mail checks each and every folder on the server every 10 minutes and while doing so is completely unresponsive. As my folder structures grow, this process takes longer and longer. All I want is for Claws to update the four Inbox folders and possibly the Spam ones, but nothing else. I know the other folders do not change because I have not set up any filter actions. Can such an option be implemented? Sorry I only have version 3.7.9 I am using Linux Mint Debian Edition and this seems to be the latest version for this platform. Many thanks. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Mar 7 17:46:35 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:46:35 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2625] Need selective IMAP folder scanning for new mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120307164635.ACB048543F@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2625 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Paul 2012-03-07 17:46:35 --- use the Folder Properties and set/inset 'scan for new mail' -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Mar 7 17:55:36 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:55:36 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2625] Need selective IMAP folder scanning for new mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120307165536.597E48543F@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2625 Holger Laux changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Resolution|INVALID |FIXED --- Comment #2 from Holger Laux 2012-03-07 17:55:35 --- Many thanks. Perhaps this should be unset by default. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Mar 7 17:57:15 2012 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 16:57:15 +0000 Subject: [Users] search for attachments In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120307165715.16e9e915@thewildbeast> On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:26:04 +0000 e-letter wrote: > Is it possible to search for message attachments? It would useful to > be able to search for a attachment of a particular filename, ideally > with regular expressions recognition. Yes, all filtering expressions are available in the quick search. see: http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Filtering_and_Processing_of_Messages with regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Mar 7 17:57:36 2012 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 16:57:36 +0000 Subject: [Users] smtp error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120307165736.4bf18263@thewildbeast> On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:27:57 +0000 e-letter wrote: > What is the following error (visible in the error log dialogue > window: > > ** error occurred on SMTP session > *** Error occurred while sending the message: > 550 5.1.2 Cannot resolve your domain {mp-us011} Looks like a message from the server. with regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Mar 7 17:59:18 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:59:18 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2625] Need selective IMAP folder scanning for new mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120307165918.401AF85441@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2625 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Resolution|FIXED |INVALID -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From slitt at troubleshooters.com Wed Mar 7 19:34:40 2012 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:34:40 -0500 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2625] Need selective IMAP folder scanning for new mail In-Reply-To: <20120307165536.597E48543F@mx.colino.net> References: <20120307165536.597E48543F@mx.colino.net> Message-ID: <20120307133440.0700b5d1@mydesk> On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:55:36 +0100 (CET) noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2625 > > > Holger Laux changed: > > What |Removed |Added > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Resolution|INVALID |FIXED > > > > > --- Comment #2 from Holger Laux 2012-03-07 17:55:35 --- > Many thanks. Perhaps this should be unset by default. I'm very glad for the tip that you can set a folder to not check for new mail with IMAP. I have about 50 folders that are for old stuff and never change. These folders are under two superfolders. What would be REALLY nice would be if I could collapse the superfolders, set the properties to not check email, and have that setting recursively apply to everything under the superfolder, perhaps with a "make it recursive?" dialog box. Thanks SteveT From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Mar 7 20:01:57 2012 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 19:01:57 +0000 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2625] Need selective IMAP folder scanning for new mail In-Reply-To: <20120307133440.0700b5d1@mydesk> References: <20120307165536.597E48543F@mx.colino.net> <20120307133440.0700b5d1@mydesk> Message-ID: <20120307190157.4bf099e6@thewildbeast> On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:34:40 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > What would be REALLY nice would be if I could collapse the > superfolders, set the properties to not check email, and have that > setting recursively apply to everything under the superfolder, > perhaps with a "make it recursive?" dialog box. You can already do exactly that. Same place as before, use the 'apply to subfolders' checkbox. with regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Mar 7 20:04:57 2012 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 19:04:57 +0000 Subject: [Users] Attachments no visible In-Reply-To: <20120306075112.6297a039@thewildbeast> References: <20120304172536.12ce026d@desktop-1.home> <20120306075112.6297a039@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20120307190457.4eea983b@thewildbeast> On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 07:51:12 +0000 Paul wrote: > This may be easier to answer if I had an example. Can you send me a > copy privately, off-list, using 'redirect' or 'forward as > attachment'? Thanks for sending the message off-list. I didn't see anything unusual about it - the attachments as expected. So I wonder what your original question is referring to?? with regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Mar 7 20:27:58 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 20:27:58 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2626] New: Crash in file browser when trying to attach a file Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2626 Summary: Crash in file browser when trying to attach a file Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.8.0 Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI/Compose Window AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org ReportedBy: lisaev at umail.iu.edu When attaching a file from Compose window (ctrl-m) the file browser opens in the last known directory and sometimes crashes, taking down the entire client. This is accompanied only by an error message from glib2 (running with --debug), e.g.: (process:1102): GLib-ERROR (recursed) **: gmem.c:202: failed to allocate 2032 bytesUnexpected error. There is no segfault or crash dumps. Also, crash dialog does not pop up. The crash only happens first time the attach dialog is open -- upon restarting claws afterwards, things work as expected. I suspect this is related to folder size... The system is Archlinux x86_64 (Glib2 2.30.2). Compile/configure options: CFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe -fstack-protector-all -fexceptions -fno-delete-null-pointer-checks --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2" CXXFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe -fstack-protector-all -fexceptions -fno-delete-null-pointer-checks --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2" LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro,-z,now,--hash-style=gnu" ./configure --prefix=/usr \ --enable-gnutls \ --enable-pgpcore-plugin \ --enable-pgpmime-plugin \ --enable-crash-dialog \ --disable-ldap \ --disable-libetpan \ --disable-static \ --disable-enchant \ --disable-dillo-viewer-plugin \ --disable-spamassassin-plugin \ --disable-bogofilter-plugin \ --disable-jpilot \ --disable-networkmanager-support \ --disable-startup-notification \ --disable-valgrind \ --disable-ipv6 \ --disable-trayicon-plugin \ --disable-compface Please let me know what additional info I need to provide to track down this problem. I will also test with new glib2 when it becomes available. Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From slitt at troubleshooters.com Wed Mar 7 22:42:37 2012 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 16:42:37 -0500 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2625] Need selective IMAP folder scanning for new mail In-Reply-To: <20120307190157.4bf099e6@thewildbeast> References: <20120307165536.597E48543F@mx.colino.net> <20120307133440.0700b5d1@mydesk> <20120307190157.4bf099e6@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20120307164237.6a44f70e@mydesk> On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 19:01:57 +0000 Paul wrote: > On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:34:40 -0500 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > What would be REALLY nice would be if I could collapse the > > superfolders, set the properties to not check email, and have that > > setting recursively apply to everything under the superfolder, > > perhaps with a "make it recursive?" dialog box. > > You can already do exactly that. Same place as before, use the 'apply > to subfolders' checkbox. Confirmed! Thanks. U D Man Paul! SteveT From jseymour at LinxNet.com Wed Mar 7 23:31:45 2012 From: jseymour at LinxNet.com (Jim Seymour) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:31:45 -0500 Subject: [Users] smtp error In-Reply-To: <20120307165736.4bf18263@thewildbeast> References: <20120307165736.4bf18263@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20120307173145.11a80b4d@jimsun> On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 16:57:36 +0000 Paul wrote: > On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:27:57 +0000 > e-letter wrote: > > > What is the following error (visible in the error log dialogue > > window: > > > > ** error occurred on SMTP session > > *** Error occurred while sending the message: > > 550 5.1.2 Cannot resolve your domain {mp-us011} > > Looks like a message from the server. It is. It looks like either the HELO/EHLO greeting or the From, both of which *should*, properly, contain an FQDN (Fully Qualified Domain Name), such as "example.com" or "somehost.example.com," instead contains simply "mp-us011," which is not a valid name. My server(s) would reject it, too. Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at . From inpost at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 00:11:34 2012 From: inpost at gmail.com (e-letter) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 23:11:34 +0000 Subject: [Users] search for attachments Message-ID: On 07/03/2012, users-request at lists.claws-mail.org wrote: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 16:57:15 +0000 > From: Paul > > On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:26:04 +0000 > e-letter wrote: > >> Is it possible to search for message attachments? It would useful to >> be able to search for a attachment of a particular filename, ideally >> with regular expressions recognition. > > Yes, all filtering expressions are available in the quick search. This is confusing; 'quick search' is accessed from the menu bar 'edit' and 'filtering' from 'configuration'? > http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Filtering_and_Processing_of_Messages > The first sentence states "match type...", but there is no dialogue window that shows such an option. From inpost at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 00:31:40 2012 From: inpost at gmail.com (e-letter) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 23:31:40 +0000 Subject: [Users] Users Digest, Vol 7, Issue 9 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 07/03/2012, users-request at lists.claws-mail.org wrote: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 16:57:15 +0000 > From: Paul > > On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:26:04 +0000 > e-letter wrote: > >> Is it possible to search for message attachments? It would useful to >> be able to search for a attachment of a particular filename, ideally >> with regular expressions recognition. > > Yes, all filtering expressions are available in the quick search. > see: > http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Filtering_and_Processing_of_Messages > Have now realised that the dialogue window that shows 'match type...' is 'search folder' from the menu bar 'edit'. Using the default option 'match any...', a mime-type criterion 'text/directory' was entered in the field 'body' of the search dialogue window. No results were coloured blue in the message list of the main window (small screen mode), even though at least one message with such an attachment exists. Another question, how to delete/keep clear the list of previous search criteria? From sylpheed at 911networks.com Thu Mar 8 01:46:04 2012 From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 16:46:04 -0800 Subject: [Users] search for attachments In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120307164604.3f0719f8@from-theboss.911networks.com> On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 23:11:34 +0000 e-letter wrote: >>> Is it possible to search for message attachments? It would useful >>> to be able to search for a attachment of a particular filename, >>> ideally with regular expressions recognition. >> >> Yes, all filtering expressions are available in the quick search. > >This is confusing; 'quick search' is accessed from the menu bar >'edit' and 'filtering' from 'configuration'? > >> http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Filtering_and_Processing_of_Messages >> >The first sentence states "match type...", but there is no dialogue >window that shows such an option. Search bar > {Extended} > {Edit} > Match Criteria: {Flags} > Flag {Has Attachment} is {Set} -- Thanks http://www.911networks.com When the network has to work From mailinglists at gusnan.se Thu Mar 8 11:13:12 2012 From: mailinglists at gusnan.se (Andreas =?UTF-8?B?UsO2bm5xdWlzdA==?=) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 11:13:12 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2577] Focus rectangle on folder list and message list headings doesn't get properly ... In-Reply-To: <20120228002621.6a72e601@X> References: <20120221122532.5088a99a@X> <20120222131119.4de32bf3@debian.localdomain> <20120222221049.15264c71@X> <20120228002621.6a72e601@X> Message-ID: <20120308111312.7cc2300c@debian.localdomain> On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 00:26:21 -0500 Michael Shell wrote: > On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:10:49 -0500 > Michael Shell wrote: > > > http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2577 > > > > I will try to look into this further and see if my eye catches any > > other "off by 0.5 to 1.0 pixel" errors. Sigh. > > > OK, to review, the first part of the phantom line bug can be addressed > by changing the code of src/gtk/gtkcmctree.c around line 936 to read: > --------------------------------- 8< ----------------------------------- > > On an otherwise uncorrected gtkcmctree.c, note how stepping the > selection row upward with the keyboard erases the borders while > stepping downward restores them. This is because they are being > erased at the bottom of the row, while only being written/restored on > the top. When the eraser follows the writer (upward movement), they > are lost, when the writer follows the eraser, they are restored. The > two line patch causes both the top and bottom borders to always be > rewritten on update preventing the problem. > Unfortunately I have ran into more problems related to this (Sorry for not spotting them earlier...) If marking lines using Ctrl+ mouse leftclicking, messages are marked as they should be, but when unmarking, using Ctrl and mouseclicking again, lines are left in the view - see http://www.gusnan.se/claws/claws_message_list_problem.jpg for an example. I am using latest CVS, 3.8.0cvs30. /Andreas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mailinglists at gusnan.se Thu Mar 8 16:42:17 2012 From: mailinglists at gusnan.se (Andreas =?UTF-8?B?UsO2bm5xdWlzdA==?=) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 16:42:17 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2577] Focus rectangle on folder list and message list headings doesn't get properly ... In-Reply-To: <20120308111312.7cc2300c@debian.localdomain> References: <20120221122532.5088a99a@X> <20120222131119.4de32bf3@debian.localdomain> <20120222221049.15264c71@X> <20120228002621.6a72e601@X> <20120308111312.7cc2300c@debian.localdomain> Message-ID: <20120308164217.0e6ce47c@debian.localdomain> On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 11:13:12 +0100 Andreas Rönnquist wrote: > > If marking lines using Ctrl+ mouse leftclicking, messages are marked > as they should be, but when unmarking, using Ctrl and mouseclicking > again, lines are left in the view - see > > http://www.gusnan.se/claws/claws_message_list_problem.jpg > > for an example. I am using latest CVS, 3.8.0cvs30. > the jpg compression made some funny stuff with the colors - I've uploaded a better png image here: http://www.gusnan.se/claws/claws_message_list_problem.png /Andreas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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When I try to do the same thing with claws, dovecot sees the connection but tells me "Aborted login (no auth attempts)". -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From list1 at michaelshell.org Thu Mar 8 21:36:23 2012 From: list1 at michaelshell.org (Michael Shell) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 15:36:23 -0500 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2577] Focus rectangle on folder list and message list headings doesn't get properly ... In-Reply-To: <20120308111312.7cc2300c@debian.localdomain> References: <20120221122532.5088a99a@X> <20120222131119.4de32bf3@debian.localdomain> <20120222221049.15264c71@X> <20120228002621.6a72e601@X> <20120308111312.7cc2300c@debian.localdomain> Message-ID: <20120308153623.516d9c84@X> On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 11:13:12 +0100 Andreas Rönnquist wrote: > Unfortunately I have ran into more problems related to this (Sorry for > not spotting them earlier...) > > If marking lines using Ctrl+ mouse leftclicking, messages are marked > as they should be, but when unmarking, using Ctrl and mouseclicking > again, lines are left in the view - see Ahhhhggggg! I see it too. :( OK, I'll look into that one too. Cheers, Mike Shell From list1 at michaelshell.org Fri Mar 9 01:47:08 2012 From: list1 at michaelshell.org (Michael Shell) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 19:47:08 -0500 Subject: [Users] Disable message subject hover "popups"? Message-ID: <20120308194708.626de01d@X> Sorry is this is something obvious that I just overlooked, but is there a way (under Claws 3.8.0) to disable the (to me, annoying) popup redundant info that appears when the cursor hovers over the message subject, from, date, size, etc.? I can see where it might be useful to be able to see the full message subject if it is too long to fit in the row, but the popups can be annoying as they cover over other areas of the message display forcing me to move the mouse around to "get it the heck out of the way". I'd like to be able to turn the darn thing off. Cheers, Mike Shell From littlergirl at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 03:20:58 2012 From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 21:20:58 -0500 Subject: [Users] Disable message subject hover "popups"? In-Reply-To: <20120308194708.626de01d@X> References: <20120308194708.626de01d@X> Message-ID: <4f59690b.f21c340a.19d9.fffff537@mx.google.com> Hey there, Michael Shell wrote: > Sorry is this is something obvious that I just overlooked, but is > there a way (under Claws 3.8.0) to disable the (to me, annoying) > popup redundant info that appears when the cursor hovers over the > message subject, from, date, size, etc.? If you open the Configuration menu, choose Preferences... and then choose Summaries, you can remove the check in the box next to Show tooltips (near the bottom of the page) and that should take care of it. (: -- Little Girl There is no spoon. From list1 at michaelshell.org Fri Mar 9 03:43:15 2012 From: list1 at michaelshell.org (Michael Shell) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 21:43:15 -0500 Subject: [Users] Disable message subject hover "popups"? In-Reply-To: <4f59690b.f21c340a.19d9.fffff537@mx.google.com> References: <20120308194708.626de01d@X> <4f59690b.f21c340a.19d9.fffff537@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <20120308214315.6c9a448a@X> On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 21:20:58 -0500 Little Girl wrote: > If you open the Configuration menu, choose Preferences... and then > choose Summaries, you can remove the check in the box next to Show > tooltips (near the bottom of the page) and that should take care of > it. (: That sure did the trick. Ahhhh ... relief at last. ;) Thank you! Mike From littlergirl at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 03:49:35 2012 From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 21:49:35 -0500 Subject: [Users] Disable message subject hover "popups"? In-Reply-To: <20120308214315.6c9a448a@X> References: <20120308194708.626de01d@X> <4f59690b.f21c340a.19d9.fffff537@mx.google.com> <20120308214315.6c9a448a@X> Message-ID: <4f596fbf.a81e340a.618d.fffffbed@mx.google.com> Hey there, Michael Shell wrote: > Little Girl wrote: > > If you open the Configuration menu, choose Preferences... and then > > choose Summaries, you can remove the check in the box next to Show > > tooltips (near the bottom of the page) and that should take care > > of it. (: > That sure did the trick. Ahhhh ... relief at last. ;) > Thank you! Any time - I'm glad it worked. (: -- Little Girl There is no spoon. From expat.iain at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 09:49:22 2012 From: expat.iain at gmail.com (Iain) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 09:49:22 +0100 Subject: [Users] GData plugin problem Message-ID: <20120309094922.22ceb9e7@expat-lt> Am using Claws 3.8.0 on LMDE with GData 0.3. When typing names into the address field of a new email I am not seeing anything being displayed from my Google account contacts. Checking the Network Logfile shows the following: * GData plugin: Starting async authentification * GData plugin: Authentificated * GData plugin: Starting async contacts query *** GData plugin: Error querying for contacts: A required property of a element (@address) was not present. Can anyone help with how I can see the contacts list? From list at eworm.de Fri Mar 9 10:33:48 2012 From: list at eworm.de (Christian Hesse) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:33:48 +0100 Subject: [Users] Disable message subject hover "popups"? In-Reply-To: <4f59690b.f21c340a.19d9.fffff537@mx.google.com> References: <20120308194708.626de01d@X> <4f59690b.f21c340a.19d9.fffff537@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <20120309103348.60c3db2e@leda> Little Girl on Thu, 8 Mar 2012 21:20:58 -0500: > Hey there, > > Michael Shell wrote: > > > Sorry is this is something obvious that I just overlooked, but is > > there a way (under Claws 3.8.0) to disable the (to me, annoying) > > popup redundant info that appears when the cursor hovers over the > > message subject, from, date, size, etc.? > > If you open the Configuration menu, choose Preferences... and then > choose Summaries, you can remove the check in the box next to Show > tooltips (near the bottom of the page) and that should take care of > it. (: Ah, that's great. Did not like the behavior either. But now that we have this thread... I remember a mail client (possibly kmail?) That could display tooltips that perfectly covered the original text. Is something like that possible for CM? (I attached a mockup to show what I am talking about.) -- Best regards, Chris O< ascii ribbon campaign stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: tooltip.png Type: image/png Size: 30696 bytes Desc: not available URL: From lainecliff at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 12:14:57 2012 From: lainecliff at gmail.com (Cliff Laine) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 11:14:57 +0000 Subject: [Users] ./ configure problem with notification_plugin-0.29 Message-ID: <20120309111457.7a3784a7@mepis1> I just wondered whether anyone could point out the (I hope obvious) wrong step that this inexperienced user is making when trying to install Holger Berndt's notification plugin. I untarred the tar.gz to a new folder. cd to folder ./configure which produces: configure: error: cannot find sources (src/notification_plugin.c) in . or .. ---------- Can anyone spot my mistake? Thanks Cliff From lainecliff at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 15:21:04 2012 From: lainecliff at gmail.com (Cliff Laine) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 14:21:04 +0000 Subject: [Users] ./ configure problem with notification_plugin-0.29 Message-ID: <20120309142104.28aae600@mepis1> Sorry everyone - ignore that. It's nothing to do with the notifier but a problem: "C compiler cannot create executables". I get this all the time but it's clearly my system that's the problem. Cliff From berndth at gmx.de Fri Mar 9 18:35:47 2012 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 18:35:47 +0100 Subject: [Users] GData plugin problem In-Reply-To: <20120309094922.22ceb9e7@expat-lt> References: <20120309094922.22ceb9e7@expat-lt> Message-ID: <20120309183547.50e3269f@wodan> On Fr, 09.03.2012 09:49, Iain wrote: >Checking the Network Logfile shows the following: > >* GData plugin: Starting async authentification >* GData plugin: Authentificated >* GData plugin: Starting async contacts query >*** GData plugin: Error querying for contacts: A required property of a > element (@address) was not present. That's an error message from either libgdata or Google. What libgdata version do you use? Holger From cwallace at lodgingcompany.com Fri Mar 9 19:31:48 2012 From: cwallace at lodgingcompany.com (Chad Wallace) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:31:48 -0800 Subject: [Users] Disable message subject hover "popups"? In-Reply-To: <20120309103348.60c3db2e@leda> References: <20120308194708.626de01d@X> <4f59690b.f21c340a.19d9.fffff537@mx.google.com> <20120309103348.60c3db2e@leda> Message-ID: <20120309103148.58191753@ws80.int.tlc> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:33:48 +0100 Christian Hesse wrote: > Little Girl on Thu, 8 Mar 2012 21:20:58 -0500: > > If you open the Configuration menu, choose Preferences... and then > > choose Summaries, you can remove the check in the box next to Show > > tooltips (near the bottom of the page) and that should take care of > > it. (: > > Ah, that's great. Did not like the behavior either. > > But now that we have this thread... I remember a mail client (possibly > kmail?) That could display tooltips that perfectly covered the > original text. Is something like that possible for CM? > (I attached a mockup to show what I am talking about.) Also, they're really only needed if the text was clipped because it's wider than its column. That would reduce them to a minimum and make them much less annoying. I would turn my tooltips back on if Christian's suggestion and mine were implemented. -- C. Chad Wallace, B.Sc. The Lodging Company http://www.lodgingcompany.com/ OpenPGP Public Key ID: 0x262208A0 From littlergirl at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 20:39:41 2012 From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 14:39:41 -0500 Subject: [Users] Disable message subject hover "popups"? In-Reply-To: <20120309103348.60c3db2e@leda> References: <20120308194708.626de01d@X> <4f59690b.f21c340a.19d9.fffff537@mx.google.com> <20120309103348.60c3db2e@leda> Message-ID: <4f5a5c7f.f21c340a.19d9.ffff8cad@mx.google.com> Hey there, Christian Hesse wrote: > Little Girl wrote: > > If you open the Configuration menu, choose Preferences... and then > > choose Summaries, you can remove the check in the box next to Show > > tooltips (near the bottom of the page) and that should take care > > of it. (: > Ah, that's great. Did not like the behavior either. Whoever said you can't hit two birds with one stone must have been wrong. (: > But now that we have this thread... I remember a mail client > (possibly kmail?) That could display tooltips that perfectly > covered the original text. Is something like that possible for CM? > (I attached a mockup to show what I am talking about.) I'm not sure. I would think something like that would be controlled with CSS, but I don't see any CSS files inside of Claws. It might be a GTK setting. -- Little Girl There is no spoon. From pioruns at o2.pl Sat Mar 10 16:39:44 2012 From: pioruns at o2.pl (Piotr Drozdek) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 15:39:44 +0000 Subject: [Users] claws-mail on Win7 64bit In-Reply-To: <20120227235452.00003e3f@unknown> References: <20120220221112.4b7b350d@bonifac.skk> <20120227235452.00003e3f@unknown> Message-ID: <20120310153944.000077ee@unknown> Dnia , o godz. Piotr Drozdek napisał(a): > Dnia , o godz. > Slavko napisał(a): > > > Hi, > > > > i am using the CM in Debian, without any problem and in Windows XP > > with some small problems. But in last days i get new computer (in > > work) with Windows 7 64-bit. > > Hi there. Sorry for unrelated question - but I have one. I am using > gp4win light 2.11 svn (link from Claws Mail site) on Windows 7 64bit. > No problems so far, very nice. But my question is - where I can get > more recent builds of gpg4win? On their site it's only official > version gpg4win light 2.1.0 released in march 2011. Or I can use > gpg4win light from link in Claws Mail site - development build > gpg4win-light-2.1.1-svn1684-colin.exe, last commit - from october > 2011. > > Any newer builds? Can anyone answer me? -- Regards, Piotr Drozdek From littlergirl at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 18:11:47 2012 From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 12:11:47 -0500 Subject: [Users] claws-mail on Win7 64bit In-Reply-To: <20120310153944.000077ee@unknown> References: <20120220221112.4b7b350d@bonifac.skk> <20120227235452.00003e3f@unknown> <20120310153944.000077ee@unknown> Message-ID: <4f5b8b54.6745340a.5171.0dfd@mx.google.com> Hey there, Piotr Drozdek wrote: > Dnia , o godz. > Piotr Drozdek napisał(a): > > > Dnia , o godz. > > Slavko napisał(a): > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > i am using the CM in Debian, without any problem and in Windows > > > XP with some small problems. But in last days i get new > > > computer (in work) with Windows 7 64-bit. > > > > Hi there. Sorry for unrelated question - but I have one. I am > > using gp4win light 2.11 svn (link from Claws Mail site) on > > Windows 7 64bit. No problems so far, very nice. But my question > > is - where I can get more recent builds of gpg4win? On their site > > it's only official version gpg4win light 2.1.0 released in march > > 2011. Or I can use gpg4win light from link in Claws Mail site - > > development build gpg4win-light-2.1.1-svn1684-colin.exe, last > > commit - from october 2011. > > > > Any newer builds? > > Can anyone answer me? I wish I could help. I know there are some Windows users on this mailing list, so hopefully soon one of them will reply. -- Little Girl There is no spoon. From list1 at michaelshell.org Sat Mar 10 21:07:50 2012 From: list1 at michaelshell.org (Michael Shell) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 15:07:50 -0500 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2577] Focus rectangle on folder list and message list headings doesn't get properly ... In-Reply-To: <20120308111312.7cc2300c@debian.localdomain> References: <20120221122532.5088a99a@X> <20120222131119.4de32bf3@debian.localdomain> <20120222221049.15264c71@X> <20120228002621.6a72e601@X> <20120308111312.7cc2300c@debian.localdomain> Message-ID: <20120310150750.5cbc8b53@X> On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 11:13:12 +0100 Andreas Rönnquist wrote: > If marking lines using Ctrl+ mouse leftclicking, messages are marked > as they should be, but when unmarking, using Ctrl and mouseclicking > again, lines are left in the view OK, it turns out this is caused by yet another issue. Changing line 939 of src/gtk/gtkcmctree.c from: gtk_widget_get_can_focus (widget) && gtk_widget_has_focus (widget)) to: gtk_widget_get_can_focus (widget) && gtk_widget_has_focus (widget) && state == GTK_STATE_SELECTED) is a workaround. The attached patch does this and is needed in addition to, and to be applied after, the previous patch I supplied. The problem is caused by the fact that apparently gtk_widget_has_focus() remains true when using ctrl-click to deselect a message and thus the focus lines/rectangle is still drawn. The above fix confines focus rectangle/line drawing to selected messages only. Perhaps there is a need to review what is meant to be indicated by the "focus rectangle". To me, it should be used to indicate which message is actually being displayed below and thus it could happen even in deselected messages, but never on more than one. However, properly tracking that would be require different logic and well as the need to "erase" previous focus rectangle instances after the current one moves. As it is, the focus rectangle is just selection decoration. Anyway, can you still find a way to break it after this latest fix Andreas? Cheers, Mike Shell -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <20120310232653.7834b5d4@mydesk> References: <20120310232653.7834b5d4@mydesk> Message-ID: <4f5c3c69.080ae00a.0c5d.37b2@mx.google.com> Hey there, Steve Litt wrote: > On some email clients, you can tell an email you're composing to > suggest automatic display of an attached graphic, on the receiving > client. How do you do that in Claws-Mail? It feels good to climb onto the soapbox from time to time: I hope something like that does not exist because if anyone ever sent me such an email I might feel like throttling them. (: I don't know exactly how it's done, but you'd probably have to set up an action (Configuration --> Actions...) that executes a script to check your outgoing mail for graphics and add one or more lines of text to the ones it finds before they get sent. Hopefully someone else in here will jump in and offer details from personal experience. -- Little Girl There is no spoon. From colin at colino.net Sun Mar 11 10:13:40 2012 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:13:40 +0100 Subject: [Users] claws-mail on Win7 64bit In-Reply-To: <20120310153944.000077ee@unknown> References: <20120220221112.4b7b350d@bonifac.skk> <20120227235452.00003e3f@unknown> <20120310153944.000077ee@unknown> Message-ID: <20120311101340.3f039c0b@marv> On 10 March 2012 at 15h39, Piotr Drozdek wrote: Hi, > > Hi there. Sorry for unrelated question - but I have one. I am using > > gp4win light 2.11 svn (link from Claws Mail site) on Windows 7 > > 64bit. No problems so far, very nice. But my question is - where I > > can get more recent builds of gpg4win? On their site it's only > > official version gpg4win light 2.1.0 released in march 2011. Or I > > can use gpg4win light from link in Claws Mail site - development > > build gpg4win-light-2.1.1-svn1684-colin.exe, last commit - from > > october 2011. > > > > Any newer builds? > > Can anyone answer me? I've not done any more recent build. -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 190 bytes Desc: not available URL: From colin at colino.net Sun Mar 11 10:20:41 2012 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:20:41 +0100 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2577] Focus rectangle on folder list and message list headings doesn't get properly ... In-Reply-To: <20120310150750.5cbc8b53@X> References: <20120221122532.5088a99a@X> <20120222131119.4de32bf3@debian.localdomain> <20120222221049.15264c71@X> <20120228002621.6a72e601@X> <20120308111312.7cc2300c@debian.localdomain> <20120310150750.5cbc8b53@X> Message-ID: <20120311102041.3b996dcb@marv> On 10 March 2012 at 15h07, Michael Shell wrote: Hi, > Perhaps there is a need to review what is meant to be indicated > by the "focus rectangle". To me, it should be used to indicate > which message is actually being displayed below and thus it could > happen even in deselected messages, but never on more than one. It just helps distinguishing which list has the focus (compare with folder list when clicking an empty folder: the focus stays in the folder list as there are no mails inside). Anyway, patch applied, thanks ! (I've added your name to the Authors file :) -- Colin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <20120310150750.5cbc8b53@X> References: <20120221122532.5088a99a@X> <20120222131119.4de32bf3@debian.localdomain> <20120222221049.15264c71@X> <20120228002621.6a72e601@X> <20120308111312.7cc2300c@debian.localdomain> <20120310150750.5cbc8b53@X> Message-ID: <20120311105740.6005d00f@debian.localdomain> On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 15:07:50 -0500 Michael Shell wrote: > On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 11:13:12 +0100 > Andreas Rönnquist wrote: > > > If marking lines using Ctrl+ mouse leftclicking, messages are marked > > as they should be, but when unmarking, using Ctrl and mouseclicking > > again, lines are left in the view > > > OK, it turns out this is caused by yet another issue. > -------------- 8< ---------------- > > Anyway, can you still find a way to break it after this latest > fix Andreas? > Nope, to me it looks like that was the last problem related to this. Thanks for all your work with it! - and also, thanks Colin for committing the patches! best regards /Andreas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dukeofperl at lavabit.com Sun Mar 11 16:45:21 2012 From: dukeofperl at lavabit.com (Duke Normandin) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 09:45:21 -0600 Subject: [Users] Manually moving an entire thread to a folder Message-ID: <20120311094521.3691fd7c.dukeofperl_lavabit.com@select-man> Can Claws Mail do that? How? -- Duke From berndth at gmx.de Sun Mar 11 17:48:37 2012 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:48:37 +0100 Subject: [Users] Manually moving an entire thread to a folder In-Reply-To: <20120311094521.3691fd7c.dukeofperl_lavabit.com@select-man> References: <20120311094521.3691fd7c.dukeofperl_lavabit.com@select-man> Message-ID: <20120311174837.1e91a85f@wodan> On So, 11.03.2012 09:45, Duke Normandin wrote: >Can Claws Mail do that? How? Edit -> Select thread, then move the selection in the normal way (DnD, CTRL-O, (context) menu). Holger From dukeofperl at lavabit.com Sun Mar 11 18:25:22 2012 From: dukeofperl at lavabit.com (Duke Normandin) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:25:22 -0600 Subject: [Users] Manually moving an entire thread to a folder In-Reply-To: <20120311174837.1e91a85f@wodan> References: <20120311094521.3691fd7c.dukeofperl_lavabit.com@select-man> <20120311174837.1e91a85f@wodan> Message-ID: <20120311112522.46d6a7d0.dukeofperl_lavabit.com@select-man> On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:48:37 +0100 Holger Berndt wrote: > On So, 11.03.2012 09:45, Duke Normandin wrote: > > >Can Claws Mail do that? How? > > Edit -> Select thread, then move the selection in the normal way > (DnD, CTRL-O, (context) menu). I must admit that I haven't tried using Edit / Select thread ! However, I did select all the msgs - in the "expanded" thread - manually (which highlights them), and then tried to both "drag" them all to the destination folder, and to use the C-o command. No joy! That's why I'm asking. :) I just tried it again before sending this msg - only the first msg in the thread gets moved! -- Duke From brad at fineby.me.uk Sun Mar 11 18:57:41 2012 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:57:41 +0000 Subject: [Users] Manually moving an entire thread to a folder In-Reply-To: <20120311112522.46d6a7d0.dukeofperl_lavabit.com@select-man> References: <20120311094521.3691fd7c.dukeofperl_lavabit.com@select-man> <20120311174837.1e91a85f@wodan> <20120311112522.46d6a7d0.dukeofperl_lavabit.com@select-man> Message-ID: <20120311175741.5d2c99a3@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:25:22 -0600 Duke Normandin wrote: Hello Duke, > No joy! That's why I'm asking. :) I just tried it again before > sending this msg - only the first msg in the thread gets moved! Works here. Not the answer you want to hear, probably. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Just stop and take a second U & Ur Hand - P!nk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dukeofperl at lavabit.com Sun Mar 11 19:43:02 2012 From: dukeofperl at lavabit.com (Duke Normandin) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 12:43:02 -0600 Subject: [Users] Manually moving an entire thread to a folder In-Reply-To: <20120311175741.5d2c99a3@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20120311094521.3691fd7c.dukeofperl_lavabit.com@select-man> <20120311174837.1e91a85f@wodan> <20120311112522.46d6a7d0.dukeofperl_lavabit.com@select-man> <20120311175741.5d2c99a3@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20120311124302.4963f602.dukeofperl_lavabit.com@select-man> On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:57:41 +0000 Brad Rogers wrote: > Works here. Not the answer you want to hear, probably. Too true!! :) From John at wexfordpress.com Mon Mar 12 14:28:56 2012 From: John at wexfordpress.com (john Culleton) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:28:56 -0400 Subject: [Users] Disable message subject hover "popups"? In-Reply-To: <4f5a5c7f.f21c340a.19d9.ffff8cad@mx.google.com> References: <20120308194708.626de01d@X> <4f59690b.f21c340a.19d9.fffff537@mx.google.com> <20120309103348.60c3db2e@leda> <4f5a5c7f.f21c340a.19d9.ffff8cad@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <20120312092856.6ae681f0@sda3.wexfordpress.net> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 14:39:41 -0500 Little Girl wrote: > Hey there, > > Christian Hesse wrote: > > Little Girl wrote: > > > > If you open the Configuration menu, choose Preferences... and then > > > choose Summaries, you can remove the check in the box next to Show > > > tooltips (near the bottom of the page) and that should take care > > > of it. (: > > > Ah, that's great. Did not like the behavior either. > > Whoever said you can't hit two birds with one stone must have been > wrong. (: > > > But now that we have this thread... I remember a mail client > > (possibly kmail?) That could display tooltips that perfectly > > covered the original text. Is something like that possible for CM? > > (I attached a mockup to show what I am talking about.) > > I'm not sure. I would think something like that would be controlled > with CSS, but I don't see any CSS files inside of Claws. It might be > a GTK setting. > Tooltips have nothing to do with CSS, which is a web design method. Tooltips were available with Delphi in the MSWin 3 era. At that time CSS had not yet been created. CSS is a kind of macro facility that ideally allows one to establish a set of parameters for a web page entity once and use them multiple times. -- John Culleton Free list of books for self-publishers: http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html Police Procedural and Expose: "Death Wore Black" "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html From seelenhirt at gmx.net Mon Mar 12 21:05:47 2012 From: seelenhirt at gmx.net (seelenhirt) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:05:47 +0100 Subject: [Users] How to suggest automatic visibility of images? In-Reply-To: <4f5c3c69.080ae00a.0c5d.37b2@mx.google.com> References: <20120310232653.7834b5d4@mydesk> <4f5c3c69.080ae00a.0c5d.37b2@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <20120312210547.3e64fd4a@eris.sumpf> > > On some email clients, you can tell an email you're composing to > > suggest automatic display of an attached graphic, on the receiving > > client. How do you do that in Claws-Mail? > > It feels good to climb onto the soapbox from time to time: > > > I hope something like that does not exist because if anyone ever sent > me such an email I might feel like throttling them. > > > (: > > I don't know exactly how it's done, but you'd probably have to set up > an action (Configuration --> Actions...) that executes a script to > check your outgoing mail for graphics and add one or more lines of > text to the ones it finds before they get sent. Hopefully someone > else in here will jump in and offer details from personal experience. > I think what Steve is looking for is the content-disposition MIME header as described in RFC 2183 (or look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIME#Content-Disposition). Claws does not handle display of messages accordingly to this RFC per default - It shows images inline even if content-disposition is "attachment". I'm not sure if you can set the disposition type when composing a message. Regards, Marius From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Mar 13 07:16:08 2012 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 06:16:08 +0000 Subject: [Users] How to suggest automatic visibility of images? In-Reply-To: <20120312210547.3e64fd4a@eris.sumpf> References: <20120310232653.7834b5d4@mydesk> <4f5c3c69.080ae00a.0c5d.37b2@mx.google.com> <20120312210547.3e64fd4a@eris.sumpf> Message-ID: <20120313061608.3d1474cd@thewildbeast> On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:05:47 +0100 seelenhirt wrote: > Claws does not handle display of messages accordingly to this RFC > per default - It shows images inline even if content-disposition is > "attachment". _If_ you've set the option to show them inline. with regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From johnxj at comcast.net Tue Mar 13 08:14:28 2012 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:14:28 -0700 Subject: [Users] Two instances of Claws Mail? Message-ID: <20120313001428.3523eab6@mailhost.pdx.edu> Claws Mail version 3.8.0 on Fedora 16, x86_64. My university just switched to Google Mail. Previously I used the university web interface for my university address, and Claws Mail for my non-university mail accounts. However, the university web interface has become Google Mail interface, and I can't make heads or tails of it. I know I can add the university address as a Claws Mail account and collect the mail all into Claws Mail, thus discarding the Google Mail web interface altogether. However, I have a lot of mail saved in folders on the university account, and also lots of non-university mail saved in folders in Claws Mail. Mixing the two together would be even more confusing than trying to figure out Google Mail's web interface. What might make sense is to have two different Claws Mail programs, running at the same time. One would be my existing Claws Mail that has all my non-university mail, and the other would be dedicated only to my university account. Is that possible? If not, can someone suggest any alternative to free me from Google Mail's web interface? From mir at miras.org Tue Mar 13 08:24:12 2012 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:24:12 +0100 Subject: [Users] Two instances of Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <20120313001428.3523eab6@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120313001428.3523eab6@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120313082412.14f7a392@sleipner.datanom.net> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:14:28 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: > What might make sense is to have two different Claws Mail programs, > running at the same time. One would be my existing Claws Mail that has > all my non-university mail, and the other would be dedicated only to my > university account. > > Is that possible? If not, can someone suggest any alternative to free > me from Google Mail's web interface? See the option alternate-config-dir: claws-mail --alternate-config-dir /some/other/dir -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Mar 13 08:33:43 2012 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:33:43 +0000 Subject: [Users] Two instances of Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <20120313001428.3523eab6@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120313001428.3523eab6@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120313073343.5db3791e@thewildbeast> You can't have 2 claws-mails running at the same time for the same user. However, it's not difficult to keep two accounts distinct. You didn't say if the googlemail was pop or imap. If it's imap, just add the account, it'll automatically have it's own mailbox. If it's pop, then add a mailbox (/File/Add mailbox/MH...) and when creating the new account, set it's options to use this new mailbox. regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From mir at miras.org Tue Mar 13 08:36:37 2012 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:36:37 +0100 Subject: [Users] Two instances of Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <20120313073343.5db3791e@thewildbeast> References: <20120313001428.3523eab6@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120313073343.5db3791e@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20120313083637.11c811e5@sleipner.datanom.net> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:33:43 +0000 Paul wrote: > You can't have 2 claws-mails running at the same time for the same > user. > By using alternate-config-dir it is perfectly possible - I use it all the time when I am hacking on claws. On normal instance and a second one for debugging purposes. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Mar 13 09:06:01 2012 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:06:01 +0000 Subject: [Users] Two instances of Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <20120313083637.11c811e5@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20120313001428.3523eab6@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120313073343.5db3791e@thewildbeast> <20120313083637.11c811e5@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20120313080601.637655cb@thewildbeast> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:36:37 +0100 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > By using alternate-config-dir it is perfectly possible - I use it > all the time when I am hacking on claws. On normal instance and a > second one for debugging purposes. Ahh, true. But still not the best suggestion for the situation, I feel. with regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Mar 13 12:07:50 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:07:50 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2624] dialog "Action Configuration" cannot be closed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120313110750.5E49F853E3@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2624 --- Comment #2 from Christian Hesse 2012-03-13 12:07:49 --- I think the problem is somewhere else: * open any configuration dialog that has an "Information" button * open the information dialog * close the information dialog -> You can not interact with the configuration dialog and chances are very high that CM crashes later. Can anybody confirm? -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From pf at pfortin.com Tue Mar 13 12:13:46 2012 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:13:46 -0400 Subject: [Users] Two instances of Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <20120313001428.3523eab6@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120313001428.3523eab6@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120313071346.5c12321d@pfortin.com> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:14:28 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: >What might make sense is to have two different Claws Mail programs, I've been doing that for years. You can run as many instances as you want. Just open up multiple tabs on konsole, or whatever you use and login to different userids for each one -- no messing around with alternate configs, etc. When installing a new version of CM, rename the old one to indicate its version (ie, claws-mail.3.8.0cvs26) and you can run old and new CM versions simultaneously (diff userids of course) for debugging, comparison, etc. Years ago, when sharing a computer with my ex, I would fire up a 2nd Xsession so that she could have her own environment -- switch with Ctl+Alt+F{7.8} ({8,9} more recently) You could even do it with Windows if it's setup for multiple users and you Switch User... HTH Pierre From pf at pfortin.com Tue Mar 13 12:25:47 2012 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:25:47 -0400 Subject: [Users] Two instances of Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <20120313071346.5c12321d@pfortin.com> References: <20120313001428.3523eab6@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120313071346.5c12321d@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20120313072547.434af598@pfortin.com> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:13:46 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote: >You could even do it with Windows if it's setup for multiple users and >you Switch User... Oh my... even more ways (just waking up :) If I leave my main laptop at home, I can use any Linux box, or even a Windows box with putty & Xming installed, to ssh (once for each userid) into the laptop and run CM remotely -- CM runs on laptop while displaying on local Linux|Windows, although that's a tad slower. Even slower, but still usable is using VNC to access the remote desktop. You could even run a local instance of CM on an NFS mounted filesystem it you felt so inclined. So many ways... :) From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Mar 13 16:13:31 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:13:31 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2627] New: Filtering does not work on NNTP Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2627 Summary: Filtering does not work on NNTP Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.8.0 Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Filtering AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org ReportedBy: flobber at mailinator.com The global filters (Configuration -> Filtering) are not applied to new news articles (NNTP). I tried to filter on something like "if from is in addressbook trolls then mark as read" to implement something like a kill-file. Unfortunately, it only works on mail accounts but not on NNTP accounts. Setting that rule as a folders's processing rules does work, but then Claws scans ALL messages of that folder (read and unread) each time I open it. That takes too long on newsgroups with thousands of messages. Processing on start would not help as I usually never quit Claws-Mail. Is it possible to filter NNTP articles or alternatively process only NEW articles? -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From mailinglists at gusnan.se Tue Mar 13 16:30:59 2012 From: mailinglists at gusnan.se (Andreas =?UTF-8?B?UsO2bm5xdWlzdA==?=) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:30:59 +0100 Subject: [Users] short version of has_attachment Message-ID: <20120313163059.7ecf14fd@debian.localdomain> Hi! There was a question on the IRC-channel about filtering only messages with attachments, and this made me discover that there is no short version of the "has_attachments" quicksearch command. I am not sure which character would be best, since both 'a' and 'h' already are used, but I guess two characters work fine - so I have made a patch which use "ha" for it (which you can find attached to this message). The patch also adds it to the list of commands that is available from the information button in the extended search. I am also very much a noob when it comes to CVS, so the attached patch might very well be wrongly formatted... - I hope you can make something out of it. best regards /Andreas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: add_has_attachment_quicksearch.patch Type: text/x-patch Size: 1032 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ciamarie at my180.net Tue Mar 13 16:41:12 2012 From: ciamarie at my180.net (Cia Watson) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:41:12 -0700 Subject: [Users] Two instances of Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <20120313001428.3523eab6@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120313001428.3523eab6@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120313084112.0989b792@amd3c.amd3c.cia> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:14:28 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: > Claws Mail version 3.8.0 on Fedora 16, x86_64. > Is that possible? If not, can someone suggest any alternative to free > me from Google Mail's web interface? I use the Opera browsers mail interface for my IMAP gmail access, it works great. I use claws for my pop mail through my ISP. Cia W. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jseymour at LinxNet.com Tue Mar 13 17:00:29 2012 From: jseymour at LinxNet.com (James Seymour) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:00:29 -0400 Subject: [Users] Two instances of Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <20120313001428.3523eab6@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120313001428.3523eab6@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120313120029.00004c47@skynet> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:14:28 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: > ... I have a lot of mail saved in > folders on the university account, and also lots of non-university > mail saved in folders in Claws Mail. Mixing the two together would be > even more confusing than trying to figure out Google Mail's web > interface. [snip] Switch one, the other or both to IMAP. Problem solved. I've got four email accounts (five, if you count a test account), three of which are personal, that I arbitrarily access with Claws (usually) from three different 'nix machines, a web interface for the two work ones, Thunderbird (under both Linux and two versions of MS-Win), a 'Droid app called "K9" from my Vizio tablet, and even *gag* MS Lookout--two different versions under two different versions of MS-Win. MS-Ouchlook is utterly execrable (I only do it in support of end-users that *insist* on using the thing), but the others all work like a charm :) Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at . From claws-mail at karatemuffin.it Tue Mar 13 18:34:27 2012 From: claws-mail at karatemuffin.it (Trenkwalder Christian) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:34:27 +0100 Subject: [Users] Two instances of Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <20120313001428.3523eab6@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120313001428.3523eab6@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120313183427.000034f3@unknown> Am Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:14:28 -0700 schrieb John Jason Jordan : > Is that possible? If not, can someone suggest any alternative to free > me from Google Mail's web interface? If you dont like IMAP you could also easily use pop and use a filterto move the incoming mails to designated Folders/Mailboxes. christian From pf at pfortin.com Tue Mar 13 19:37:12 2012 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:37:12 -0400 Subject: [Users] Two instances of Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <20120313183427.000034f3@unknown> References: <20120313001428.3523eab6@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120313183427.000034f3@unknown> Message-ID: <20120313143712.15315c3f@pfortin.com> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:34:27 +0100 Trenkwalder Christian wrote: >Am Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:14:28 -0700 >schrieb John Jason Jordan : > >> Is that possible? If not, can someone suggest any alternative to free >> me from Google Mail's web interface? > >If you dont like IMAP you could also easily use pop and use a filterto >move the incoming mails to designated Folders/Mailboxes. No filter needed if you set "Default inbox". >christian From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Mar 13 19:49:29 2012 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:49:29 +0000 Subject: [Users] Two instances of Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <20120313120029.00004c47@skynet> References: <20120313001428.3523eab6@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120313120029.00004c47@skynet> Message-ID: <20120313184929.4b876833@thewildbeast> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:00:29 -0400 James Seymour wrote: > Switch one, the other or both to IMAP. Problem solved. But there is no problem if both are pop or one is pop and the other imap. with regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From johnxj at comcast.net Wed Mar 14 04:46:53 2012 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:46:53 -0700 Subject: [Users] Two instances of Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <20120313001428.3523eab6@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120313001428.3523eab6@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120313204653.5995de3e@mailhost.pdx.edu> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:14:28 -0700 John Jason Jordan dijo: >What might make sense is to have two different Claws Mail programs, >running at the same time. One would be my existing Claws Mail that has >all my non-university mail, and the other would be dedicated only to my >university account. > >Is that possible? If not, can someone suggest any alternative to free >me from Google Mail's web interface? Thanks to everyone for all the thoughts and suggestions. After considering the possibilities mentioned here, and after further poking around in Claws Mail, I think the best solution would be one instance of Claws Mail with two address books, two inboxes, and two main folders for saved messages, where each current folder becomes a subfolder. Thus, I can have a folder labeled "general" which will hold all my current Claws-Mail folders, and another folder labeled "university," which will hold the dozen or so folders where I have saved university mails over the years. (The latter are still on the university servers.) This will effectively keep the two worlds separated so I won't have everything mixed together. However, there are a couple problems that I can't figure out how to solve: 1) I have the university account (still in Google webmail) set to check for mail every ten minutes. I have my other accounts (in Claws Mail) set to check for mail only manually. It appears that the option for this in Claws Mail is a global option; that is, I cannot set one account to check every ten minutes and the others on a different schedule or manually. Or is there such an option? If so, where is it? 2) I have my current non-university accounts in Claws Mail set to delete the mail from the server when I have downloaded it. This has worked fine for years. But I need to be able to access the university mail, at least everything still in the inbox, from the university as well as from home. Therefore, in Claws Mail I'd need to set the university account not to delete the mail from the server upon downloading the mail. I could then still use the Google web interface to access my mail on campus if necessary. The problem is that I access my mail on campus infrequently - that is, when I need to access my university mail from campus I *really need to do so*, but I do so only once a month or so. As a result, the mail will start piling up in the university inbox. What I need is to leave the mail on the university server upon downloading the mail in Claws Mail, but when I delete the mail in Claws Mail I need Claws Mail to then go out and delete that mail from the university server. I can't figure out if that is possible in Claws Mail or, if it is possible, how to do it. Can anyone help? From kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com Wed Mar 14 06:03:17 2012 From: kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com (Abhay S. Kushwaha) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:33:17 +0530 Subject: [Users] Two instances of Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <20120313204653.5995de3e@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120313001428.3523eab6@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120313204653.5995de3e@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120314103317.000017e4@netsolutionsindia.com> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:46:53 -0700, John wrote: > 1) I have the university account (still in Google webmail) set to > check for mail every ten minutes. I have my other accounts (in > Claws Mail) set to check for mail only manually. It appears that > the option for this in Claws Mail is a global option; that is, I > cannot set one account to check every ten minutes and the others on > a different schedule or manually. Or is there such an option? If > so, where is it? There's no way to set different email checking time for different accounts. However, what you can do is set one account to check automatically and the other one not to. Then, go to Message -> Receive -> (Second Account Name) to manually retrieve mails whenever you want to download mails off of that account. > when I delete the mail in Claws Mail I need > Claws Mail to then go out and delete that mail from the university > server. That's an IMAP feature. Not possible for POP without massive client-side kung-fu. I'm glad the developers of CM don't want to "solve" solved problems and haven't added this "feature". My suggestion: You should access your university account through an IMAP account set up on Claws. It will do everything you want it to (separate folder structure, keep mails on server, not check needlessly, delete when needed, etc.) From johnxj at comcast.net Wed Mar 14 08:39:59 2012 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 00:39:59 -0700 Subject: [Users] Two instances of Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <20120314103317.000017e4@netsolutionsindia.com> References: <20120313001428.3523eab6@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120313204653.5995de3e@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120314103317.000017e4@netsolutionsindia.com> Message-ID: <20120314003959.02a815b1@mailhost.pdx.edu> On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:33:17 +0530 "Abhay S. Kushwaha" dijo: >On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:46:53 -0700, John wrote: > >> 1) I have the university account (still in Google webmail) set to >> check for mail every ten minutes. I have my other accounts (in >> Claws Mail) set to check for mail only manually. It appears that >> the option for this in Claws Mail is a global option; that is, I >> cannot set one account to check every ten minutes and the others on >> a different schedule or manually. Or is there such an option? If >> so, where is it? > >There's no way to set different email checking time for different >accounts. However, what you can do is set one account to check >automatically and the other one not to. Then, go to Message -> >Receive -> (Second Account Name) to manually retrieve mails whenever >you want to download mails off of that account. > >> when I delete the mail in Claws Mail I need >> Claws Mail to then go out and delete that mail from the university >> server. > >That's an IMAP feature. Not possible for POP without massive >client-side kung-fu. I'm glad the developers of CM don't want to >"solve" solved problems and haven't added this "feature". > >My suggestion: You should access your university account through an >IMAP account set up on Claws. It will do everything you want it to >(separate folder structure, keep mails on server, not check >needlessly, delete when needed, etc.) I guess now I have to go learn how IMAP works. :( Oh well. The best education is the kind you get when you need it. :) From moh at gmx.org Wed Mar 14 08:46:10 2012 From: moh at gmx.org (Steffen Klemer) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:46:10 +0100 Subject: [Users] Two instances of Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <20120314103317.000017e4@netsolutionsindia.com> References: <20120313001428.3523eab6@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120313204653.5995de3e@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120314103317.000017e4@netsolutionsindia.com> Message-ID: <20120314084610.3f5bab8e@moppi.kel.wh.local> Am Wed, 14.03.2012 um 10:33 schrieb "Abhay S. Kushwaha" : > My suggestion: You should access your university account through an > IMAP account set up on Claws. It will do everything you want it to > (separate folder structure, keep mails on server, not check > needlessly, delete when needed, etc.) In the "normal" Google Mail you can also change some IMAP options from the web-interface. It's in Settings->Forward and POP/IMAP. I would definitely use IMAP for the GMail account! /Steffen -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Mar 14 11:28:47 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:28:47 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2628] New: lots of vcal_folder logs Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2628 Summary: lots of vcal_folder logs Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.8.0 Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Other AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org ReportedBy: pierrick.pons at orange.com Hello, My Claws-mail is freezing so much. When using claws-mail --debug, I can read lots and lots of logs : vcal_folder.c:791:adding with start/end 20111213T140000:20111213T153000 vcal_folder.c:811:next time is not null vcal_folder.c:791:adding with start/end 20111220T140000:20111220T153000 vcal_folder.c:811:next time is not null vcal_folder.c:791:adding with start/end 20111227T140000:20111227T153000 vcal_folder.c:811:next time is not null vcal_folder.c:791:adding with start/end 20120103T140000:20120103T153000 vcal_folder.c:811:next time is not null vcal_folder.c:791:adding with start/end 20120110T140000:20120110T153000 That lines are running every time claws-mail is freezing. Is this a known bug ? Is there a way to fix that ? Regards, -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From expat.iain at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 14:07:23 2012 From: expat.iain at gmail.com (iain) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:07:23 +0100 Subject: [Users] GData plugin problem In-Reply-To: <20120309183547.50e3269f@wodan> References: <20120309094922.22ceb9e7@expat-lt> <20120309183547.50e3269f@wodan> Message-ID: On 09/03/12 18:35, Holger Berndt wrote: > On Fr, 09.03.2012 09:49, Iain wrote: > >> Checking the Network Logfile shows the following: >> >> * GData plugin: Starting async authentification >> * GData plugin: Authentificated >> * GData plugin: Starting async contacts query >> *** GData plugin: Error querying for contacts: A required property of a >> element (@address) was not present. > > That's an error message from either libgdata or Google. What libgdata > version do you use? > > Holger Seem to have quite a few here: /usr/lib/libgdata-1.2.so.1 /usr/lib/libgdata-1.2.so.1.0.0 /usr/lib/libgdata-google-1.2.so.1 /usr/lib/libgdata-google-1.2.so.1.0.0 /usr/lib/libgdata.so.13 /usr/lib/libgdata.so.13.1.1 /usr/lib/libgdata.so.7 /usr/lib/libgdata.so.7.2.0 From expat.iain at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 14:10:26 2012 From: expat.iain at gmail.com (iain) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:10:26 +0100 Subject: [Users] GData plugin problem In-Reply-To: <20120309183547.50e3269f@wodan> References: <20120309094922.22ceb9e7@expat-lt> <20120309183547.50e3269f@wodan> Message-ID: On 09/03/12 18:35, Holger Berndt wrote: > On Fr, 09.03.2012 09:49, Iain wrote: > >> Checking the Network Logfile shows the following: >> >> * GData plugin: Starting async authentification >> * GData plugin: Authentificated >> * GData plugin: Starting async contacts query >> *** GData plugin: Error querying for contacts: A required property of a >> element (@address) was not present. > > That's an error message from either libgdata or Google. What libgdata > version do you use? > > Holger Claws appears to be tied to libgdata.so.13.1.1 which has version 0.10.1-2 installed. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Mar 14 14:17:29 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:17:29 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2044] email completion according to more fields p.ex last name In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120314131729.C290C853C0@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2044 --- Comment #6 from Nathan Trapuzzano 2012-03-14 14:17:29 --- Can we please include this patch upstream? -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Mar 14 14:44:45 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:44:45 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2627] Filtering does not work on NNTP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120314134445.6B568853C0@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2627 --- Comment #1 from Manfred Schmitt 2012-03-14 14:44:44 --- It should work if you use Pre-processing instead of filtering so I would not consider this as a bug. At least Pre-processing works here to color messages from me and set the "watch" mark on the thread (not only) in news. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Mar 14 19:14:12 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:14:12 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2629] New: yahoo-mail POP3 : cannot complete the download of a msg with attachment Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2629 Summary: yahoo-mail POP3 : cannot complete the download of a msg with attachment Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.8.0 Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: major Priority: P3 Component: POP3 AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org ReportedBy: sbstst at yahoo.com Hi When I get a mail with an attachment (typically few hundreds kb), Claws downloads everything but got an error and cannot complete the DL, the msg is not stored (but marked as read" Log : ------8<--------- * Account 'yves yahoo': Connecting to POP3 server: pop.mail.yahoo.fr... [14:58:43] POP3< +OK hello from popgate-0.8.0.344798 pop012.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [14:58:43] POP3> USER XXXXX at yahoo.fr [14:58:44] POP3< +OK password required. [14:58:44] POP3> PASS ******** [14:58:44] POP3< +OK maildrop ready, 1 message (203229 octets) (13311050) [14:58:44] POP3> STAT [14:58:46] POP3< +OK 1 203229 [14:58:46] POP3> UIDL [14:58:47] POP3< +OK 1 message (203229 octets) [14:58:47] POP3> LIST [14:58:48] POP3< +OK 1 message (203229 octets) [14:58:48] POP3> RETR 1 [14:58:49] POP3< +OK 203223 octets ** Connection closed by the remote host. ------8<--------- If I download it with pegasus with wine, it works If I forward it to another mail-server (using the yahoo's web-interface), then claws can download it from the other mail-server It was working with the former version of Claws, I never had problem to get msgs until recently. Msgs without attachment are fetched normally. ------------- version 3.8.0 (debian sid, claws-mail_3.8.0-1_amd64.deb) System Information GTK+ 2.24.10 / GLib 2.30.2 Locale: en_US.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8) Operating System: Linux 3.0-3.slh.1-aptosid-amd64 (x86_64) -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Mar 15 00:02:59 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 00:02:59 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2501] opened message blanks when moved to other folder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120314230300.386D48544A@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2501 --- Comment #2 from users 2012-03-15 00:02:51 --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest CVS and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://www.claws-mail.org/tracker/ 2012-03-14 [pawel] 3.8.0cvs32 * src/folder.c * src/messageview.c * src/messageview.h * src/procmsg.h * src/summaryview.c * src/textview.c * src/textview.h Better fix for bug #2501 Instead of leaving blank window after message move or delete, update separate view to next message in message list or display info why view is blank. This was discussed in bug #2621 comments. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Mar 15 00:03:02 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 00:03:02 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2621] message view should close on deletion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120314230302.DA8C685441@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2621 --- Comment #10 from users 2012-03-15 00:03:00 --- Changes related to this bug have been committed. Please check latest CVS and update the bug accordingly. You can also get the patch from: http://www.claws-mail.org/tracker/ 2012-03-14 [pawel] 3.8.0cvs32 * src/folder.c * src/messageview.c * src/messageview.h * src/procmsg.h * src/summaryview.c * src/textview.c * src/textview.h Better fix for bug #2501 Instead of leaving blank window after message move or delete, update separate view to next message in message list or display info why view is blank. This was discussed in bug #2621 comments. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From berndth at gmx.de Thu Mar 15 00:13:27 2012 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 00:13:27 +0100 Subject: [Users] Disable message subject hover "popups"? In-Reply-To: <20120312092856.6ae681f0@sda3.wexfordpress.net> References: <20120308194708.626de01d@X> <4f59690b.f21c340a.19d9.fffff537@mx.google.com> <20120309103348.60c3db2e@leda> <4f5a5c7f.f21c340a.19d9.ffff8cad@mx.google.com> <20120312092856.6ae681f0@sda3.wexfordpress.net> Message-ID: <20120315001327.5c70318d@wodan> On Mon, 12.03.2012 09:28, john Culleton wrote: >> I'm not sure. I would think something like that would be controlled >> with CSS, but I don't see any CSS files inside of Claws. It might be >> a GTK setting. >> >Tooltips have nothing to do with CSS, which is a web >design method. Tooltips were available with Delphi in the MSWin 3 era. >At that time CSS had not yet been created. CSS is a kind of macro >facility that ideally allows one to establish a set of parameters >for a web page entity once and use them multiple times. CSS is a language for defining the presentation of content, not restricted to web design. In fact, the next major version of the GTK+ toolkit uses it for its themes. So Little Girls was not that far off. Holger From berndth at gmx.de Thu Mar 15 00:25:02 2012 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 00:25:02 +0100 Subject: [Users] GData plugin problem In-Reply-To: References: <20120309094922.22ceb9e7@expat-lt> <20120309183547.50e3269f@wodan> Message-ID: <20120315002502.28ee8445@wodan> On Wed, 14.03.2012 14:10, iain wrote: >>> Checking the Network Logfile shows the following: >>> >>> * GData plugin: Starting async authentification >>> * GData plugin: Authentificated >>> * GData plugin: Starting async contacts query >>> *** GData plugin: Error querying for contacts: A required property of a >>> element (@address) was not present. >> >> That's an error message from either libgdata or Google. What libgdata >> version do you use? > >Claws appears to be tied to libgdata.so.13.1.1 which has version >0.10.1-2 installed. I tried it with 0.10.1 here, and it worked fine. I don't know what the -2 means - it's probably specific to your distribution. I don't know why you're getting that error - you can try asking your distribution or the libgdata folks. Holger From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Mar 15 13:25:35 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:25:35 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2630] New: Draft sometimes not deleted when message sent Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2630 Summary: Draft sometimes not deleted when message sent Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.8.0 Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: minor Priority: P3 Component: Other AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org ReportedBy: jerome at jolimont.fr Generally, when a message is sent, the draft is deleted. But sometimes, it is not. It can happen even if I never saved the message while writing (in which case the draft is completely automatic). It also happens that two drafts are recorded for the same message, which could be another bug or the same. I don't remember for sure that this already happened with automatic draft saving, though. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From lfisk at iserv.net Thu Mar 15 13:28:51 2012 From: lfisk at iserv.net (Leon Fisk) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:28:51 -0400 Subject: [Users] [Bug 2627] New: Filtering does not work on NNTP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201203151716.q2FHGiqw011474@mail3.iserv.net> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:13:31 +0100 (CET) noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote: >http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2627 > > Summary: Filtering does not work on NNTP > Product: Claws Mail > Version: 3.8.0 > Platform: PC > OS/Version: Linux > Status: NEW > Severity: normal > Priority: P3 > Component: Filtering > AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org > ReportedBy: flobber at mailinator.com > > >The global filters (Configuration -> Filtering) are not applied to new news >articles (NNTP). > >I tried to filter on something like "if from is in addressbook trolls then mark >as read" to implement something like a kill-file. Unfortunately, it only works >on mail accounts but not on NNTP accounts. > >Setting that rule as a folders's processing rules does work, but then Claws >scans ALL messages of that folder (read and unread) each time I open it. That >takes too long on newsgroups with thousands of messages. Processing on start >would not help as I usually never quit Claws-Mail. > >Is it possible to filter NNTP articles or alternatively process only NEW >articles? Yes, it helps a lot to speed up the process. I copied several NNTP group processing rules from my "matcherrc" file in .claws to give you some ideas: === [#news/Et-Sept/rec.crafts.metalworking] enabled rulename "Delete older than 17 days & read" age_greater 17 & ~unread delete enabled rulename "Bozo Groups" header "xref" regexpcase "limbaugh|politics|survivalism|tricks|kooks|comp.cad|nuclear|gossip|rights|marketplace|religion|\\.fan" & ~watch_thread & unread ignore enabled rulename "Mark Bozo's Read" from regexpcase "too_many_tools|basil karlo|benny fishhole|Lib Loo|burled frau|egalitarian|wholetruth|createstuf|asheksp|zhang|snothead|pogonip" & unread mark_as_read enabled rulename "Delete ignored & older than 3 days" ignore_thread & age_greater 3 & subject regexp "^Re:" delete enabled rulename "Color mark Bozo's" from regexpcase "gunnerasch|richg|pittmanpirate|terrell|steveb\\@" & unread color 3 [#news/Et-Sept/rec.gardens] enabled rulename "Delete older than 21 days" age_greater 21 delete enabled rulename "Delete ignored and older than 3 days" ignore_thread & age_greater 3 & subject regexp "^Re:" delete enabled rulename "windows-1256" header "content-type" matchcase "windows-1256" & unread ignore enabled rulename "Flag bozos" from regexpcase "wildbilly|charlie|brooklyn1|gunner" & unread color 3 === Watch the word-wrap. Each line should start with "enabled rulename". You can edit this file directly, but I think it would be best if Claws wasn't running at the time. You can also enter it using Claws "Processing..." menu selections. _Be aware_ though that the syntax is slightly different between editing it directly or using the menu way. -- Leon Claws 3.7.9, Ubuntu Karmic 9.10 From littlergirl at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 18:48:53 2012 From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:48:53 -0400 Subject: [Users] Disable message subject hover "popups"? In-Reply-To: <20120315001327.5c70318d@wodan> References: <20120308194708.626de01d@X> <4f59690b.f21c340a.19d9.fffff537@mx.google.com> <20120309103348.60c3db2e@leda> <4f5a5c7f.f21c340a.19d9.ffff8cad@mx.google.com> <20120312092856.6ae681f0@sda3.wexfordpress.net> <20120315001327.5c70318d@wodan> Message-ID: <4f622b86.85c3e00a.2846.ffffbda2@mx.google.com> Hey there, Holger Berndt wrote: > CSS is a language for defining the presentation of content, not > restricted to web design. In fact, the next major version of the > GTK+ toolkit uses it for its themes. So Little Girls was not that > far off. Yay! (: -- Little Girl There is no spoon. From slitt at troubleshooters.com Thu Mar 15 20:15:02 2012 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:15:02 -0400 Subject: [Users] How to search folders recursively? Message-ID: <20120315151502.59d165f4@mydesk> Hi all, I could have sworn somebody already answered this question, but a trip through my Claws-Mail archives couldn't find it. How do you search not only a folder, but its subfolders, when you bring up the Search Messages dialog box? Thanks SteveT From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Mar 15 20:41:06 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:41:06 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2627] Filtering does not work on NNTP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120315194107.106288540B@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2627 --- Comment #2 from flobber 2012-03-15 20:41:06 --- Yes, it DOES work with processing rules (and also as a pre-processing rule) but (pre-)processing always processes ALL messages (old and new ones) and that takes very long when there are more than a couple of messages. I.e. opening a newsgroup with 8700 messages takes about 4 seconds hot-cache and 12 seconds cold-cache with the single rule (6 entries in the addrbook): found_in_addressbook "From" in "addrbook-killfile.xml" ignore Btw, using pre-processing rules is even worse than folder-specific processing rules as they are global and are applied to all folders (even trash), so entering any folder with a significant number of messages is slow. I only want to filter/process NEW messages (usually only a handful) so that there's no noticable delay when opening them. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Mar 15 21:02:28 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:02:28 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2627] Filtering does not work on NNTP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120315200228.645F38540B@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2627 --- Comment #3 from flobber 2012-03-15 21:02:27 --- Ok, I think I found a solution. The slow part seems to be the addressbook match. If I guard the rule with a "new" (new & found_in_addrbook ...) the processing is much faster (but it still scans all messages). At least the hot-cache case is acceptable now - I couldn't check the cold-cache case yet. Regarding whether the not-working "Filter" is a bug or not: The NNTP-specific "Receive Tab" in the account preferences has a "Filter messages on receiving" checkbox. It is checked but the filter is not working - looks like a bug ;-) -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Mar 15 23:06:37 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 23:06:37 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2627] Filtering does not work on NNTP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120315220638.003608540B@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2627 --- Comment #4 from Manfred Schmitt 2012-03-15 23:06:37 --- Hm, I don't see a real difference wheter my few kill/watch rules are enabled or not, entering, for example, de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc with > 10000 messages takes roughly 1-2 seconds. Yes, that's cached, it will be bit slower when there are new messages. But it's not that slow here, you haven't enabled the filtering log, don't you? Especially the filtering log is a really really huge performance killer. Bug or not: Indeed, regarding the configuration filtering should also work on NNTP, point taken. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Mar 16 00:42:22 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:42:22 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2627] Filtering does not work on NNTP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120315234222.A86D08540B@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2627 --- Comment #5 from flobber 2012-03-16 00:42:21 --- > you haven't enabled the filtering log, don't you? Filtering log is disabled. > 10000 messages takes roughly 1-2 seconds. Yes, it's really the "found_in_addressbook" pattern that's slow. If I limit it to "new" messages: new & found_in_addressbook "From" in "addrbook-killfile.xml" ignore entering folders becomes as nearly as fast as if (pre-)processing is disabled. But I noticed one thing that will still make a working "Filtering" my preference: Processing rules are only executed when opening a folder. So the folder list may show new messages when in fact the processing rules will mark all of them as "ignore" when I open the folder. Filtering messages on receive would not falsely hilight the folder list, trigger tray-icons, etc. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From codejodler at gmx.ch Fri Mar 16 02:04:27 2012 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 02:04:27 +0100 Subject: [Users] How to search folders recursively? In-Reply-To: <20120315151502.59d165f4@mydesk> References: <20120315151502.59d165f4@mydesk> Message-ID: <20120316020427.13d5c3b1@mirrors.kernel.org> Steve, > Hi all, > > I could have sworn somebody already answered this question probly was my question... > How do you search not only a folder, but its subfolders I think the 'search folder' dialog does not provide that (yet). There is one way with 'quicksearch' (clicking the little magnifier glass icon above the mesdsage text window). Just select the top folder, and do the search. It will indicate the folders with hits by changing the preceding icon in the folder list (into a magnifier glass). Note i had a probolem with a non default old gtk theme which did not show those folder icons at all. From codejodler at gmx.ch Fri Mar 16 02:18:52 2012 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 02:18:52 +0100 Subject: [Users] Two instances of Claws Mail? In-Reply-To: <20120313083637.11c811e5@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20120313001428.3523eab6@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120313073343.5db3791e@thewildbeast> <20120313083637.11c811e5@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20120316021852.47ee2272@mirrors.kernel.org> Michael, > alternate-config-dir And again i learned something cool about claws by just poking into a random thread ( : From iwkse at claws-mail.org Fri Mar 16 02:22:25 2012 From: iwkse at claws-mail.org (Salvatore De Paolis) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 02:22:25 +0100 Subject: [Users] How to search folders recursively? In-Reply-To: <20120316020427.13d5c3b1@mirrors.kernel.org> References: <20120315151502.59d165f4@mydesk> <20120316020427.13d5c3b1@mirrors.kernel.org> Message-ID: <20120316022225.78659b71@net24.it> Hi Michael, On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 02:04:27 +0100 Michael wrote: > There is one way with 'quicksearch' (clicking the little magnifier glass icon > above the mesdsage text window). Just select the top folder, and do the > search. It won't work if you do not select 'Recursive' first. -- Salvatore From johnxj at comcast.net Fri Mar 16 08:35:24 2012 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:35:24 -0700 Subject: [Users] Migrating Google Mail to Claws Mail Message-ID: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> I have Claws Mail 3.8.0 on Fedora 16, x86_64. I have a couple of accounts set up that have worked perfectly for years. Now I want to migrate my Google mail to Claws Mail. This has generated some questions: 1) First, the Google mail account is actually a university account where my address is @pdx.edu. I don't understand how this works, but when I send a message to this address it shows up in the Google mail account. This was a recent change; previously the university hosted all the e-mail and now they have switched to Google mail. I started by switching the Google mail account to IMAP. Then I set up a new account in Claws Mail using @pdx.edu as my e-mail address, and imap.googlemail.com and smtp.googlemail.com as the receive and send servers. These addresses were listed on the "setting up your mail client" page at the university, although I had to get them from a Thunderbird instruction sheet because Claws Mail was not listed. When I try to send mail I get a popup that says it's sending, but eventually it times out. If I try to get mail on the new account nothing at all happens, not even a popup saying it is connecting. Elsewhere I found instructions to use imap.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com, but those give me the same results. I need some clues. 2) After setting up the new account (even if it is not working yet) I find a folder marked "PSU (IMAP4)." I labeled the new account "PSU," so that explains where the name came from, but what is this folder for? Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Mar 16 08:43:14 2012 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:43:14 +0000 Subject: [Users] Migrating Google Mail to Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120316074314.0420e9cb@thewildbeast> On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:35:24 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: > I need some clues. Yes, here too: What does the Network Log say during this? > After setting up the new account (even if it is not working yet) I > find a folder marked "PSU (IMAP4)." I labeled the new account > "PSU," so that explains where the name came from, but what is this > folder for? Sounds like the mailbox folder. with regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From johnxj at comcast.net Fri Mar 16 08:51:29 2012 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:51:29 -0700 Subject: [Users] Migrating Google Mail to Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20120316074314.0420e9cb@thewildbeast> References: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316074314.0420e9cb@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20120316005129.471e1ee3@mailhost.pdx.edu> On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:43:14 +0000 Paul dijo: >On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:35:24 -0700 >John Jason Jordan wrote: > >> I need some clues. > >Yes, here too: What does the Network Log say during this? For sending, I get: * Account 'PSU': Connecting to SMTP server: smtp.gmail.com ... *** Session timed out. You may be able to recover by increasing the timeout value in Preferences/Other/Miscellaneous. I suppose I could increase the timeout value, but it already takes a long time before it times out. I suspect the problem is something else. For attempting to receive there is nothing at all in the log. From johnxj at comcast.net Fri Mar 16 09:07:35 2012 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 01:07:35 -0700 Subject: [Users] Migrating Google Mail to Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20120316005129.471e1ee3@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316074314.0420e9cb@thewildbeast> <20120316005129.471e1ee3@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120316010735.362e53b4@mailhost.pdx.edu> On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:51:29 -0700 John Jason Jordan dijo: >On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:43:14 +0000 >Paul dijo: > >>On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:35:24 -0700 >>John Jason Jordan wrote: >> >>> I need some clues. >> >>Yes, here too: What does the Network Log say during this? > >For sending, I get: > >* Account 'PSU': Connecting to SMTP server: smtp.gmail.com ... >*** Session timed out. You may be able to recover by increasing the > timeout value in Preferences/Other/Miscellaneous. > >I suppose I could increase the timeout value, but it already takes a >long time before it times out. I suspect the problem is something else. > >For attempting to receive there is nothing at all in the log. Making progress. I got sending to work. However, Get still does nothing and there are no messages in the log. From brad at fineby.me.uk Fri Mar 16 10:39:42 2012 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 09:39:42 +0000 Subject: [Users] Migrating Google Mail to Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120316093942.00cc03c3@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:35:24 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: Hello John, > address, and imap.googlemail.com and smtp.googlemail.com as the receive Google say use *.gmail.com, not *.googlemail.com. I see in another post you've got posting working, but not receiving. Google's site says this about IMAP set up; imap.gmail.com Use SSL: Yes Port: 993 Also, username is full gmail address, not just the user part. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" I don't believe you have to be an idiot to get somewhere these days Bombsite Boy - The Adverts -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Mar 16 15:15:48 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 15:15:48 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2631] New: Provide compiled versions of Claws Mail plugins for Windows Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2631 Summary: Provide compiled versions of Claws Mail plugins for Windows Product: Claws Mail (Windows) Version: CVS Platform: PC URL: http://www.claws-mail.org/plugins.php OS/Version: Windows NT Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: default AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org ReportedBy: feek at abwesend.de Claws Mail seems to provide neat plug-ins, as listed on the plugins extra page. http://www.claws-mail.org/plugins.php Some (all?) of the extra plugins are not offered in compiled form, only in source code. That is, there are no .dll's that a user can put in one's plugins folder at " lib/claws-mail/plugins " in order to extend Claws Mail's functionality. For instance, using the GData plugin would be neat for all Windows users who are using Google Mail and gpg4win, yet want to encrypt their e-mail (which is not possible through the Google Mail web browser interface) The average Windows user has no knowledge regarding compiling sources. Adding compiled dll's to the gpg4win distribution, or at least providing compiled plugin versions for downloading, may benefit Claw's acceptance as a reliable MUA for mail encryption purposes. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Mar 16 15:21:59 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 15:21:59 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2632] New: Provide CSV address book import in Claws Mail Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2632 Summary: Provide CSV address book import in Claws Mail Product: Claws Mail Version: other Platform: PC OS/Version: Windows NT Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: UI/Address Book AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org ReportedBy: feek at abwesend.de I tried importing a CSV address book to Claws Mail. It turned out Claws Mail doesn't support CSV/LDIF address book imports. This is a must have for anyone that wants to switch over from an old MUA to Claws Mail. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Mar 16 16:10:13 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:10:13 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2632] Provide CSV address book import in Claws Mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120316151013.C115785398@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2632 --- Comment #1 from Colin Leroy 2012-03-16 16:10:13 --- LDIF is supported (Addressbook/Tools/LDIF) -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Mar 16 16:11:11 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:11:11 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2631] Provide compiled versions of Claws Mail plugins for Windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120316151111.B679485398@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2631 --- Comment #1 from Colin Leroy 2012-03-16 16:11:11 --- All the ported plugins are shipped with the GPG4Win installer. The rest isn't ported. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Mar 16 16:20:18 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:20:18 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2632] Provide CSV address book import in Claws Mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120316152018.26D8C85398@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2632 --- Comment #2 from Abdull 2012-03-16 16:20:17 --- Oops, I meant "CSV and vCard import". Both are popular schemas for importing and exporting address books. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Mar 16 16:24:49 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:24:49 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2631] Provide compiled versions of Claws Mail plugins for Windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120316152449.1E92085398@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2631 --- Comment #2 from Abdull 2012-03-16 16:24:48 --- I'd be nice if this "ported/not ported" fact is mentioned on the plugins website. Besides this, I'd be great if the extra plugins were ported. Or Claws Mail would provide means for enabling platform-independent plugins. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Mar 16 16:42:42 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:42:42 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2632] Provide CSV address book import in Claws Mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120316154242.8436185398@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2632 --- Comment #3 from Paul 2012-03-16 16:42:42 --- vCard is supported (Book/New vCard) -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Mar 16 17:04:04 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 17:04:04 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2632] Provide CSV address book import in Claws Mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120316160404.E09DF85398@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2632 --- Comment #4 from Abdull 2012-03-16 17:04:04 --- You are right. This way works. But I found this counter-intuitive. I would have expected that vCard entry (additionally?) at (German Version) "Addressbuch -> Extras -> Import vCard file... " What about giving the GUI such an extra entry? -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From johnxj at comcast.net Sat Mar 17 00:43:47 2012 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:43:47 -0700 Subject: [Users] Migrating Google Mail to Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20120316093942.00cc03c3@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316093942.00cc03c3@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20120316164347.65b4c9be@mailhost.pdx.edu> On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 09:39:42 +0000 Brad Rogers dijo: >On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:35:24 -0700 >John Jason Jordan wrote: > >Hello John, > >> address, and imap.googlemail.com and smtp.googlemail.com as the >> receive > >Google say use *.gmail.com, not *.googlemail.com. > >I see in another post you've got posting working, but not receiving. >Google's site says this about IMAP set up; > >imap.gmail.com >Use SSL: Yes >Port: 993 > >Also, username is full gmail address, not just the user part. Thanks for the suggestions. Also thanks to Owen. I set send to smtp.gmail.com and receive to imap.gmail.com. Sending works, but I receive nothing; that is, I think I am getting nothing. (See below.) I have set the port to 993 and have set SSL to each of the three alternatives, but still get no response on receiving. This morning I found two messages in the folder that I set up for the university account. One is a test message that I sent to myself late last night. The other is a bounce from this list because I inadvertently sent a message to the list from my university account, which is not registered. However, these two messages remain on the web interface, plus two more unread messages, and a little over 100 read messages in the inbox that I have not deleted or moved to folders yet. Why did those two messages appear in the Claws Mail inbox that I created for the university account, but not the others? Why does nothing happen when I select the university account (in the lower right corner of the Claws Mail window) and click on Get? If I do this for my other (POP3) accounts I get a popup window that displays the progress and how many messages it is retrieving. For the university account I get no popup window and nothing in the log. I'm beginning to think the problem is not in the university account settings in Claws Mail, but rather it is in the settings that I made in Gmail. Here is the page where I tried to set up the university account for imap: https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?shva=1#settings/fwdandpop (Hope that loads.) All I did on that page was click to enable imap and another click to disable pop. From johnxj at comcast.net Sat Mar 17 07:21:46 2012 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 23:21:46 -0700 Subject: [Users] Migrating Google Mail to Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20120316164347.65b4c9be@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316093942.00cc03c3@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120316164347.65b4c9be@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120316232146.1c869030@mailhost.pdx.edu> On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:43:47 -0700 John Jason Jordan dijo: >>imap.gmail.com >>Use SSL: Yes >>Port: 993 Still no joy. I have it working with send and receive in Opera Mail, but still cannot get receive to work in Claws Mail. The strange thing is that it does not even attempt to connect to imap.gmail.com. The network log window is completely empty. No error messages, nada. You would expect error messages, like authentication problems or dns errors, or *something*. I tried creating the account over again from scratch as another new account. Same results. I have a desktop computer with Lucid on which I have Sylpheed 3.0.2. Considering my success with Opera I decided to try in Sylpheed. Same problem - it sends, but for receive it does not even attempt to connect. I searched the bug list, but found nothing. It's like there's a checkbox somewhere that says "ignore this account," or "this account is just for sending." Someone please give me some suggestions. Even if it's the wrong answer it might stimulate thinking. I'm completely out of ideas. From brad at fineby.me.uk Sat Mar 17 10:11:02 2012 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:11:02 +0000 Subject: [Users] Migrating Google Mail to Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20120316232146.1c869030@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316093942.00cc03c3@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120316164347.65b4c9be@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316232146.1c869030@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120317091102.0702060e@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 23:21:46 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: Hello John, > It's like there's a checkbox somewhere that says "ignore this > account," or "this account is just for sending." Those options exist (sort of). An account can be created SMTP only, or can be ignored by "get all". I expect though, in your case, that these are irrelevant. > https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?shva=1#settings/fwdandpop > (Hope that loads.) All I did on that page was click to enable imap and It loads *my* settings, rather than yours. Only because that's the way it's all set up as to view it, you have to log in. Obviously, I don't have your login details. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" You're the psychotic daughter of a psychotic mother Pure Mania - The Vibrators -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From laszlo.kertesz at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 10:29:46 2012 From: laszlo.kertesz at gmail.com (Kertesz Laszlo) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 11:29:46 +0200 Subject: [Users] New mail notification issues Message-ID: <20120317112946.7b327e93@it-laptop> Hello, I use claws mail 3.8.0 on Debian. I have 2 imap accounts configured, one gmail and one from another server and some rss feeds. Now my issue is that the incoming messages in the gmail account are not marked as new unread (blue) instead they are bold black - still unread but not "new". As a result i dont get notifications about them when they arrive, only the tray icon shows unread mail (the "message" graphc is horizontal). The other account and the rss feeds works just fine, i get notify-send messages when new messages arrive, they are blue bold (new unread) and the message graphic in the tray icon is at 45 degrees. I dont have any folder exclusions regarding notifications in the settings. Both the "execute command on receive" (i set a notify-send command here) and the notification plugin behave the same. I have some filters set up on the gmail server, do they affect the status of the received messages? Other mail clients have no such issues. -- O zi buna, Kertesz Laszlo From finkandreas at web.de Sat Mar 17 10:35:53 2012 From: finkandreas at web.de (Andreas Fink) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:35:53 +0100 Subject: [Users] New mail notification issues In-Reply-To: <20120317112946.7b327e93@it-laptop> References: <20120317112946.7b327e93@it-laptop> Message-ID: <0McFgl-1RqtnJ1vE7-00JjaP@smtp.web.de> On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 11:29:46 +0200 Kertesz Laszlo wrote: > Hello, > > I use claws mail 3.8.0 on Debian. I have 2 imap accounts configured, > one gmail and one from another server and some rss feeds. Now my issue > is that the incoming messages in the gmail account are not marked as new > unread (blue) instead they are bold black - still unread but not "new". > > As a result i dont get notifications about them when they arrive, only > the tray icon shows unread mail (the "message" graphc is horizontal). > > The other account and the rss feeds works just fine, i get notify-send > messages when new messages arrive, they are blue bold (new unread) and > the message graphic in the tray icon is at 45 degrees. > I dont have any folder exclusions regarding notifications in the > settings. Both the "execute command on receive" (i set a notify-send > command here) and the notification plugin behave the same. > > I have some filters set up on the gmail server, do they affect the > status of the received messages? Other mail clients have no such issues. > Hi, this is a problem with GMail, because Google decided, that there are no new messages in the world. There are only unread messages. I for once had a simple plugin, which marked unread messages arriving for the first time as new messages, but it did not work very well, and I discarded the idea again. I think claws-mail should not fix it, it should be done in a plugin, but so far there is no such plugin out there... Cheers Andreas From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Mar 17 10:36:59 2012 From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (richard) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:36:59 +0000 Subject: [Users] Migrating Google Mail to Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20120317091102.0702060e@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316093942.00cc03c3@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120316164347.65b4c9be@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316232146.1c869030@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120317091102.0702060e@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20120317093659.39fe24bd@lap.g8jvm.com> On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:11:02 +0000 Brad Rogers wrote: > On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 23:21:46 -0700 > John Jason Jordan wrote: > > Hello John, > > > It's like there's a checkbox somewhere that says "ignore this > > account," or "this account is just for sending." > > Those options exist (sort of). An account can be created SMTP only, > or can be ignored by "get all". I expect though, in your case, that > these are irrelevant. > > > https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?shva=1#settings/fwdandpop > > (Hope that loads.) All I did on that page was click to enable imap > > and > > It loads *my* settings, rather than yours. Only because that's the > way it's all set up as to view it, you have to log in. Obviously, I > don't have your login details. > Hiya when you made the setting change in gmail did you save it before logging out. up in the top left hand side of the pane. You can check this by access the pop server,CLI, try telneting and see what happens If you have disabled pop you get no response if it still active you will get an authentication error. HTH -- -- Best wishes / 73 Richard Bown e-mail: richard at g8jvm.com or richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk nil carborundum a illegitemis ################################################################################## Ham Call G8JVM . OS Fedora FC16 x86_64 on a Dell Insiron N5030 laptop Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W ( degs mins ) QRV HF + VHF Microwave 23 cms:140W,13 cms:100W,6 cms:10W & 3 cms:5W ################################################################################## From mir at miras.org Sat Mar 17 10:37:12 2012 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:37:12 +0100 Subject: [Users] New mail notification issues In-Reply-To: <20120317112946.7b327e93@it-laptop> References: <20120317112946.7b327e93@it-laptop> Message-ID: <20120317103712.28095815@sleipner.datanom.net> On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 11:29:46 +0200 Kertesz Laszlo wrote: > > As a result i dont get notifications about them when they arrive, only > the tray icon shows unread mail (the "message" graphc is horizontal). > It is a bug in the GMail IMAP implementation. gmail does not distinguish between new and unread emails. Or more bluntly, gmail only distinguishes between read and unread messages in which case sorting new mails from unread mails is impossible. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Frank From laszlo.kertesz at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 13:03:31 2012 From: laszlo.kertesz at gmail.com (Kertesz Laszlo) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:03:31 +0200 Subject: [Users] New mail notification issues In-Reply-To: <20120317103712.28095815@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20120317112946.7b327e93@it-laptop> <20120317103712.28095815@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20120317140331.3465d567@gmail.com> On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:37:12 +0100 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 11:29:46 +0200 > Kertesz Laszlo wrote: > > > > > As a result i dont get notifications about them when they arrive, only > > the tray icon shows unread mail (the "message" graphc is horizontal). > > > It is a bug in the GMail IMAP implementation. gmail does not > distinguish between new and unread emails. Or more bluntly, gmail only > distinguishes between read and unread messages in which case sorting > new mails from unread mails is impossible. > I found a workaround for the notifications: create a filter for the gmail account, set condition to "unread" and action to execute "/usr/bin/notify-send -i /usr/share/pixmaps/claws-mail-128x128.png 'You have new mail messages'" It works on xfce, it should work on gnome (at least 2.x). -- O zi buna, Kertesz Laszlo From brad at fineby.me.uk Sat Mar 17 13:05:10 2012 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 12:05:10 +0000 Subject: [Users] insert signature above cited message In-Reply-To: <20120317123942.7ed26b5a@gamma.busse> References: <20120317123942.7ed26b5a@gamma.busse> Message-ID: <20120317120510.2757ef62@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 12:39:42 +0100 Frank Busse wrote: Hello Frank, > In replying to a message, the signature is by default inserted below > the citation, at the bottom of the new message. Is there any way to > have the signature inserted above the citation, instead? Look at "Templates" from the context menu of the relevant mailboxes. There you can arrange exactly how you wish your posts and replies to be formatted. The "information" button brings up a list of available operators to assist. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Where the grass is green and the girls are pretty Paradise City - Guns 'N' Roses -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Configuration -> Preferences... -> Compose -> Templates Though you should read this and think about you decision: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOFU -- Best regards, Chris O< ascii ribbon campaign stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Mar 17 13:33:34 2012 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 12:33:34 +0000 Subject: [Users] Migrating Google Mail to Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20120316232146.1c869030@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316093942.00cc03c3@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120316164347.65b4c9be@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316232146.1c869030@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120317123334.06065b3a@thewildbeast> On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 23:21:46 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: > Someone please give me some suggestions. Even if it's the wrong > answer it might stimulate thinking. I'm completely out of ideas. When you select the inbox in your imap mailbox, what does the Network Log say? with regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From frank at busse.oche.de Sat Mar 17 13:34:59 2012 From: frank at busse.oche.de (Frank Busse) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 13:34:59 +0100 Subject: [Users] insert signature above cited message In-Reply-To: <20120317130526.1c6b81b5@leda> References: <20120317123942.7ed26b5a@gamma.busse> <20120317130526.1c6b81b5@leda> Message-ID: <20120317133459.630705a6@gamma.busse> Sat, 17 Mar 2012 13:05:26 +0100 Christian Hesse wrote: > Configuration -> Preferences... -> Compose -> Templates My template for Reply currently is... %d %f wrote: %Q ... and seems to contain no instruction to insert the signature. However, it in fact /is/ inserted (below the quotation). Inserting the signature instead is set in Konfiguration -> Einstellung für aktuelles Konto -> Konto -> Verfassen (German version, sorry. Translates to something like Configuration -> Current Account Setup -> Account -> Compose). > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOFU I am used to inline quoting, but usually /in addition/ keep the full quotation below. (But, please, no discussion on quotation style in this thread!) Frank From list at eworm.de Sat Mar 17 13:46:18 2012 From: list at eworm.de (Christian Hesse) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 13:46:18 +0100 Subject: [Users] insert signature above cited message In-Reply-To: <20120317133459.630705a6@gamma.busse> References: <20120317123942.7ed26b5a@gamma.busse> <20120317130526.1c6b81b5@leda> <20120317133459.630705a6@gamma.busse> Message-ID: <20120317134618.16ea7c50@leda> Frank Busse on Sat, 2012/03/17 13:34: > Sat, 17 Mar 2012 13:05:26 +0100 Christian Hesse wrote: > > Configuration -> Preferences... -> Compose -> Templates > > My template for Reply currently is... > > %d %f wrote: > %Q > > ... and seems to contain no instruction to insert the signature. However, > it in fact /is/ inserted (below the quotation). %cursor or %X is for the cursor, %as for the signature. You can get more symbols and commands by pressing the "Information" button. > Inserting the signature instead is set in Konfiguration -> Einstellung für > aktuelles Konto -> Konto -> Verfassen (German version, sorry. Translates to > something like Configuration -> Current Account Setup -> Account -> > Compose). You have to disable this when adding the signature to your template. This brings the drawback the the signature is not changed if you change the account in compose window. > > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOFU > > I am used to inline quoting, but usually /in addition/ keep the full > quotation below. (But, please, no discussion on quotation style in this > thread!) I don't want to discuss, just give the link. ;) I know a lot of people who produce TOFU (for the English speaking that do not understand: this is the German short form for "Text above, full quote below") just because the do not know how to do it right. Sadly it is common in German business mails. -- Best regards, Chris O< ascii ribbon campaign stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org From slitt at troubleshooters.com Sat Mar 17 14:06:47 2012 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:06:47 -0400 Subject: [Users] Migrating Google Mail to Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20120317093659.39fe24bd@lap.g8jvm.com> References: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316093942.00cc03c3@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120316164347.65b4c9be@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316232146.1c869030@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120317091102.0702060e@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120317093659.39fe24bd@lap.g8jvm.com> Message-ID: <20120317090647.088c236f@mydesk> On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:36:59 +0000 richard wrote: > > Hiya > when you made the setting change in gmail did you save it before > logging out. up in the top left hand side of the pane. > > You can check this by access the pop server,CLI, try telneting address? 995. login as and see what happens > If you have disabled pop you get no response if it still active you > will get an authentication error. You mean 993, not 995, correct? SteveT From slitt at troubleshooters.com Sat Mar 17 14:30:45 2012 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:30:45 -0400 Subject: [Users] Migrating Google Mail to Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20120316232146.1c869030@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316093942.00cc03c3@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120316164347.65b4c9be@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316232146.1c869030@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120317093045.39779615@mydesk> On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 23:21:46 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:43:47 -0700 > John Jason Jordan dijo: > > >>imap.gmail.com > >>Use SSL: Yes > >>Port: 993 > > Still no joy. [clip[ > It's like there's a checkbox somewhere that says "ignore this > account," or "this account is just for sending." > > Someone please give me some suggestions. Even if it's the wrong answer > it might stimulate thinking. I'm completely out of ideas. Here are some thought provoking suggestions: 1) Read http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/201202/201202.htm. I think you've already discussed everything in this document, but the document might give you some ideas. 2) Use several different IMAP-compliant email clients. Many, such as Mozilla Thunderbird, set themselves up when you tell them the IMAP server. I've found that by observing the IMAP settings from several different email clients, I can compare and contrast and figure things out. HTH SteveT From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Mar 17 15:09:00 2012 From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (richard) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:09:00 +0000 Subject: [Users] Migrating Google Mail to Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20120317101426.1f0adee4@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316093942.00cc03c3@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120316164347.65b4c9be@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316232146.1c869030@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120317091102.0702060e@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120317093659.39fe24bd@lap.g8jvm.com> <20120317101426.1f0adee4@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20120317140900.407b90cb@lap.g8jvm.com> On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:14:26 +0000 Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:36:59 +0000 > richard wrote: > > Hello richard, > > > when you made the setting change in gmail did you save it before > > logging out. up in the top left hand side of the pane. > > How would I know? I'm not the person (John) you should be saying this > to. > Sorry Brad it should have gone to the list , not to you -- -- Best wishes / 73 Richard Bown e-mail: richard at g8jvm.com or richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk nil carborundum a illegitemis ################################################################################## Ham Call G8JVM . OS Fedora FC16 x86_64 on a Dell Insiron N5030 laptop Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W ( degs mins ) QRV HF + VHF Microwave 23 cms:140W,13 cms:100W,6 cms:10W & 3 cms:5W ################################################################################## From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Mar 17 15:10:37 2012 From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (richard) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:10:37 +0000 Subject: [Users] Migrating Google Mail to Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20120317090647.088c236f@mydesk> References: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316093942.00cc03c3@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120316164347.65b4c9be@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316232146.1c869030@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120317091102.0702060e@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120317093659.39fe24bd@lap.g8jvm.com> <20120317090647.088c236f@mydesk> Message-ID: <20120317141037.39368684@lap.g8jvm.com> On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:06:47 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:36:59 +0000 > richard wrote: > > > > > Hiya > > when you made the setting change in gmail did you save it before > > logging out. up in the top left hand side of the pane. > > > > You can check this by access the pop server,CLI, try telneting > address? 995. login as and see what happens > > If you have disabled pop you get no response if it still active you > > will get an authentication error. > > You mean 993, not 995, correct? > > No 995 pop. to check if he really did disable the pop server. -- Best wishes / 73 Richard Bown e-mail: richard at g8jvm.com or richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk nil carborundum a illegitemis ################################################################################## Ham Call G8JVM . OS Fedora FC16 x86_64 on a Dell Insiron N5030 laptop Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W ( degs mins ) QRV HF + VHF Microwave 23 cms:140W,13 cms:100W,6 cms:10W & 3 cms:5W ################################################################################## From slitt at troubleshooters.com Sat Mar 17 15:29:18 2012 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:29:18 -0400 Subject: [Users] Migrating Google Mail to Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20120317141037.39368684@lap.g8jvm.com> References: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316093942.00cc03c3@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120316164347.65b4c9be@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316232146.1c869030@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120317091102.0702060e@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120317093659.39fe24bd@lap.g8jvm.com> <20120317090647.088c236f@mydesk> <20120317141037.39368684@lap.g8jvm.com> Message-ID: <20120317102918.1cc9e588@mydesk> On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:10:37 +0000 richard wrote: > On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:06:47 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:36:59 +0000 > > richard wrote: > > > > > > > > Hiya > > > when you made the setting change in gmail did you save it before > > > logging out. up in the top left hand side of the pane. > > > > > > You can check this by access the pop server,CLI, try telneting > > > and see what happens > > > If you have disabled pop you get no response if it still active > > > you will get an authentication error. > > > > You mean 993, not 995, correct? > > > > > > No 995 pop. > to check if he really did disable the pop server. Ah, OK, that makes sense. While he's using Telnet, he can also telnet into 993 and make sure he's using the right username and password. SteveT From seelenhirt at gmx.net Sat Mar 17 18:04:08 2012 From: seelenhirt at gmx.net (seelenhirt) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 18:04:08 +0100 Subject: [Users] attach cited message In-Reply-To: <20120317124304.5f86000b@gamma.busse> References: <20120317124304.5f86000b@gamma.busse> Message-ID: <20120317180408.28e8a6e3@eris.sumpf> > In replying to a message, the cited message is by default inserted > into the new message. Is there any way to have the cited message > attached, instead? > There's a setting in Preferences --> Compose --> Writing. Regards, -- I do not think -- therefore I am not. From johnxj at comcast.net Sat Mar 17 17:19:02 2012 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:19:02 -0700 Subject: [Users] Migrating Google Mail to Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20120317091102.0702060e@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316093942.00cc03c3@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120316164347.65b4c9be@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316232146.1c869030@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120317091102.0702060e@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20120317091902.48ca0630@mailhost.pdx.edu> On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:11:02 +0000 Brad Rogers dijo: >On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 23:21:46 -0700 >John Jason Jordan wrote: > >Hello John, > >> It's like there's a checkbox somewhere that says "ignore this >> account," or "this account is just for sending." > >Those options exist (sort of). An account can be created SMTP only, or >can be ignored by "get all". I expect though, in your case, that these >are irrelevant. I find the option to ignore by Get All, but where is the option for SMTP only? If SMTP only is turned on that would explain the whole problem. But I can't find any place to set SMTP only. >> https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?shva=1#settings/fwdandpop >> (Hope that loads.) All I did on that page was click to enable imap >> and > >It loads *my* settings, rather than yours. Only because that's the way >it's all set up as to view it, you have to log in. Obviously, I don't >have your login details. I was afraid it wouldn't load my settings. Oh well. I enabled IMAP and disabled POP. That's all I did. But the settings on that page are irrelevant, I am sure. I say that because I created the account in Opera Mail and in Thunderbird, and both received all the messages without issue. It's only Claws Mail and Sylpheed (on a different computer) that will send but not receive. From johnxj at comcast.net Sat Mar 17 17:24:53 2012 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:24:53 -0700 Subject: [Users] Migrating Google Mail to Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20120317123334.06065b3a@thewildbeast> References: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316093942.00cc03c3@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120316164347.65b4c9be@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316232146.1c869030@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120317123334.06065b3a@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20120317092453.3dce6a38@mailhost.pdx.edu> On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 12:33:34 +0000 Paul dijo: >On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 23:21:46 -0700 >John Jason Jordan wrote: > >> Someone please give me some suggestions. Even if it's the wrong >> answer it might stimulate thinking. I'm completely out of ideas. > >When you select the inbox in your imap mailbox, what does the Network >Log say? Nothing. Nothing at all. Nada. The Network Log is totally empty. It's not even trying to connect. That's what's so baffling. Hard to troubleshoot without error messages. From brad at fineby.me.uk Sat Mar 17 17:29:34 2012 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 16:29:34 +0000 Subject: [Users] Migrating Google Mail to Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20120317091902.48ca0630@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316093942.00cc03c3@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120316164347.65b4c9be@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316232146.1c869030@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120317091102.0702060e@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120317091902.48ca0630@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120317162934.5567dea1@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:19:02 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: Hello John, > I find the option to ignore by Get All, but where is the option for > SMTP only? If SMTP only is turned on that would explain the whole > problem. But I can't find any place to set SMTP only. That's one of the options in the drop-down list used to create a new account. Be it POP3, IMAP4, SMTP or NNTP. In your case, the account should be of type IMAP4. Check in Configuration->"Edit accounts..." to be sure. > >It loads *my* settings, rather than yours. Only because that's the > >way it's all set up as to view it, you have to log in. Obviously, I > >don't have your login details. > I was afraid it wouldn't load my settings. Oh well. I enabled IMAP and > disabled POP. That's all I did. And, as mentioned by Richard, you hit "save" I hope. > But the settings on that page are irrelevant, I am sure. I say that > because I created the account in Opera Mail and in Thunderbird, and > both received all the messages without issue. It's only Claws Mail and > Sylpheed (on a different computer) that will send but not receive. Strange that both CM & Sylpheed should fail. Whilst they've diverged quite a way, account settings are broadly similar. As a result, I suspect finding the problem in one will give the solution for the other. TBH, I'm starting to run out of ideas. If only because I don't use IMAP so am not fully conversant with its foibles. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" He looked the wrong way at a policeman I Predict A Riot - Kaiser Chiefs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It makes far more sense to reply to John's post rather than mine. That way, everyone is sure who you're asking and John is more likely to read it. This is one of my pet peeves, I'm afraid. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" When I say ugly, I don't mean rough looking, I mean hideous Ugly - The Stranglers -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You did create a new IMAP account for the gmail account? with regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From johnxj at comcast.net Sat Mar 17 17:54:05 2012 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:54:05 -0700 Subject: [Users] Migrating Google Mail to Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20120317163255.08d2fd62@thewildbeast> References: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316093942.00cc03c3@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120316164347.65b4c9be@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316232146.1c869030@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120317123334.06065b3a@thewildbeast> <20120317092453.3dce6a38@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120317163255.08d2fd62@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20120317095405.191484fe@mailhost.pdx.edu> On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 16:32:55 +0000 Paul dijo: >On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:24:53 -0700 >John Jason Jordan wrote: > >> Nothing. Nothing at all. Nada. The Network Log is totally empty. >> It's not even trying to connect. >> >> That's what's so baffling. Hard to troubleshoot without error >> messages. > >Is this actually an IMAP mailbox? You did create a new IMAP account >for the gmail account? Definitely IMAP. I'm attaching screenshots of the settings for the account. Hope the listserve doesn't strip them. Edit: Have to send one image per e-mail due to size limitations of the listserve. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Hard to troubleshoot without error >> messages. > >Is this actually an IMAP mailbox? You did create a new IMAP account >for the gmail account? Definitely IMAP. I'm attaching screenshots of the settings for the account. Hope the listserve doesn't strip them. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Hard to troubleshoot without error >> messages. > >Is this actually an IMAP mailbox? You did create a new IMAP account >for the gmail account? Definitely IMAP. I'm attaching screenshots of the settings for the account. Hope the listserve doesn't strip them. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Hard to troubleshoot without error >> messages. > >Is this actually an IMAP mailbox? You did create a new IMAP account >for the gmail account? Definitely IMAP. I'm attaching screenshots of the settings for the account. Hope the listserve doesn't strip them. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: Screenshot - 03172012 - 09:42:11 AM.png Type: image/png Size: 53785 bytes Desc: not available URL: From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Mar 17 18:35:59 2012 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 17:35:59 +0000 Subject: [Users] Migrating Google Mail to Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20120317095405.191484fe@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316093942.00cc03c3@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120316164347.65b4c9be@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316232146.1c869030@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120317123334.06065b3a@thewildbeast> <20120317092453.3dce6a38@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120317163255.08d2fd62@thewildbeast> <20120317095405.191484fe@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120317173559.20e64b9d@thewildbeast> On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:54:05 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 16:32:55 +0000 > Paul dijo: > > >On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:24:53 -0700 > >John Jason Jordan wrote: > > > >> Nothing. Nothing at all. Nada. The Network Log is totally empty. > >> It's not even trying to connect. > >> > >> That's what's so baffling. Hard to troubleshoot without error > >> messages. > > > >Is this actually an IMAP mailbox? You did create a new IMAP account > >for the gmail account? > > Definitely IMAP. Nothing appears wrong in the screenshots. The strange thing so far is that there is no network activity when you select the inbox of your imap mailbox. Do you see all the folders you expect to see in the imap mailbox? with regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From johnxj at comcast.net Sat Mar 17 18:45:12 2012 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:45:12 -0700 Subject: [Users] Migrating Google Mail to Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20120317173559.20e64b9d@thewildbeast> References: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316093942.00cc03c3@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120316164347.65b4c9be@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316232146.1c869030@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120317123334.06065b3a@thewildbeast> <20120317092453.3dce6a38@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120317163255.08d2fd62@thewildbeast> <20120317095405.191484fe@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120317173559.20e64b9d@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20120317104512.6fb8074f@mailhost.pdx.edu> On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 17:35:59 +0000 Paul dijo: >On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:54:05 -0700 >John Jason Jordan wrote: > >> On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 16:32:55 +0000 >> Paul dijo: >> >> >On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:24:53 -0700 >> >John Jason Jordan wrote: >> > >> >> Nothing. Nothing at all. Nada. The Network Log is totally empty. >> >> It's not even trying to connect. >> >> >> >> That's what's so baffling. Hard to troubleshoot without error >> >> messages. >> > >> >Is this actually an IMAP mailbox? You did create a new IMAP account >> >for the gmail account? >> >> Definitely IMAP. > >Nothing appears wrong in the screenshots. The strange thing so far is >that there is no network activity when you select the inbox of your >imap mailbox. Do you see all the folders you expect to see in the >imap mailbox? The IMAP mailbox is totally empty in Claws Mail. When I created the accounts in Thunderbird and Opera Mail the inbox immediately filled with all the mail in the university inbox, and all the folders migrated immediately as well. That has never happened in Claws Mail. Claws Mail makes no attempt to connect to the server except when I send a mail. At least, I conclude that it makes no attempt because the Network Log remains empty. From johnxj at comcast.net Sat Mar 17 18:55:24 2012 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:55:24 -0700 Subject: [Users] SOLVED: Migrating Google Mail to Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20120317104512.6fb8074f@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316093942.00cc03c3@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120316164347.65b4c9be@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316232146.1c869030@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120317123334.06065b3a@thewildbeast> <20120317092453.3dce6a38@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120317163255.08d2fd62@thewildbeast> <20120317095405.191484fe@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120317173559.20e64b9d@thewildbeast> <20120317104512.6fb8074f@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120317105524.71d73731@mailhost.pdx.edu> On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:45:12 -0700 John Jason Jordan dijo: For the third time I tried creating the account. And this time IT WORKED! The only thing I did different was that I did not check the boxes for the ports. They were grayed out but you could read 465 and 993, and I just left them unchecked. Otherwise the new account would have exactly the same screenshots as I recently uploaded. I have no idea why that should have made any difference. Thanks to everyone for all the help and patience listening to my tribulations. From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Mar 17 19:25:50 2012 From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (richard) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 18:25:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] Migrating Google Mail to Claws Mail In-Reply-To: <20120317095405.191484fe@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120316003524.00ca042f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316093942.00cc03c3@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120316164347.65b4c9be@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120316232146.1c869030@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120317123334.06065b3a@thewildbeast> <20120317092453.3dce6a38@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120317163255.08d2fd62@thewildbeast> <20120317095405.191484fe@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120317182550.5a7203bf@lap.g8jvm.com> On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:54:05 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 16:32:55 +0000 > Paul dijo: > > >On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:24:53 -0700 > >John Jason Jordan wrote: > > > >> Nothing. Nothing at all. Nada. The Network Log is totally empty. > >> It's not even trying to connect. > >> > >> That's what's so baffling. Hard to troubleshoot without error > >> messages. > > > >Is this actually an IMAP mailbox? You did create a new IMAP account > >for the gmail account? > > Definitely IMAP. > > I'm attaching screenshots of the settings for the account. Hope the > listserve doesn't strip them. > > Edit: Have to send one image per e-mail due to size limitations of the > listserve. > Try putting imap4.gmail.com as the server -- -- Best wishes / 73 Richard Bown e-mail: richard at g8jvm.com or richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk nil carborundum a illegitemis ################################################################################## Ham Call G8JVM . OS Fedora FC16 x86_64 on a Dell Insiron N5030 laptop Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W ( degs mins ) QRV HF + VHF Microwave 23 cms:140W,13 cms:100W,6 cms:10W & 3 cms:5W ################################################################################## From frank at busse.oche.de Sat Mar 17 20:36:55 2012 From: frank at busse.oche.de (Frank Busse) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 20:36:55 +0100 Subject: [Users] attach cited message In-Reply-To: <20120317180408.28e8a6e3@eris.sumpf> References: <20120317124304.5f86000b@gamma.busse> <20120317180408.28e8a6e3@eris.sumpf> Message-ID: <20120317203655.2b0bc686@gamma.busse> Sat, 17 Mar 2012 18:04:08 +0100 seelenhirt wrote: > There's a setting in Preferences --> Compose --> Writing. In my version (3.7.9) there is only such a setting for /forwarding/ of messages as attachment, not for a /reply/. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Mar 17 21:54:08 2012 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 20:54:08 +0000 Subject: [Users] attach cited message In-Reply-To: <20120317124304.5f86000b@gamma.busse> References: <20120317124304.5f86000b@gamma.busse> Message-ID: <20120317205408.0c7145d0@thewildbeast> On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 12:43:04 +0100 Frank Busse wrote: > In replying to a message, the cited message is by default inserted > into the new message. Is there any way to have the cited message > attached, instead? You want to attach what exactly - the whole message file, a text document containing the message body, or ...? It's an unusual thing to do. with regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Mar 18 12:01:46 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 12:01:46 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2633] New: Ldap write support is not well documented; some behavior is unintuitive. Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2633 Summary: Ldap write support is not well documented; some behavior is unintuitive. Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.8.0 Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: trivial Priority: P3 Component: UI/Address Book/LDAP AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org ReportedBy: mello73 at gmail.com Its difficult to obtain information about LDAP write support, apart looking at past changelogs. If you change an existing ldap addressbook entry, modification are not sent immediately to server, but only when you close the whole (global) claws-mail addressbook. So if you do the following: change entry and redo a search (without closing addressbook)to look if entry is changed, the information retrieved from the server are still the old one and you could think that claws-mail have not changed the entry at all (i thinked that ldap write was not supported!); at the end you loss all changes made. So when you change some entry the first things to do is CLOSE global addressbook windows so that changes are sent to server. One more little thing, if you create a new ldap entry without email address (i know its a little stupid) the message is not so clear (Distinguished Name (dn) is missing); maybe something as "please specify an email address" or similar is better. Finally claws-mail is really marvellous!!! Go on this way, and thanks for all!! Bye, Mello. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From frank at busse.oche.de Sun Mar 18 13:19:29 2012 From: frank at busse.oche.de (Frank Busse) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 13:19:29 +0100 Subject: [Users] attach cited message In-Reply-To: <20120317205408.0c7145d0@thewildbeast> References: <20120317124304.5f86000b@gamma.busse> <20120317205408.0c7145d0@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20120318131929.1a0092e3@gamma.busse> Sat, 17 Mar 2012 20:54:08 +0000 Paul wrote: > You want to attach what exactly I want to do in replying to a message exactly what ClawsMail provides for /forwarding/ the message: include the original message as MIME-Type message/rfc8222 attachment (rather than as "cited message" in the body of my reply). Frank From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Mar 18 14:16:18 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 14:16:18 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2633] Ldap write support is not well documented; some behavior is unintuitive. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120318131619.E73F3853FE@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2633 --- Comment #1 from Michael Rasmussen 2012-03-18 14:16:18 --- Hi Mello, The reason for the behavior in the LDAP address book is due to a fundamental design decision in the address book code which would require a complete rewrite of the address book implementation to solve out. I admit the functionality is not the best it could be which is why I have made a complete brand new address book that some day, I hope, will make its way to claws-mail. Until this happens I think you must take the address book as is since further development of the current address book has been halted, only bugs will be taken care of. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From seelenhirt at gmx.net Sun Mar 18 16:18:04 2012 From: seelenhirt at gmx.net (seelenhirt) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 16:18:04 +0100 Subject: [Users] attach cited message In-Reply-To: <20120317203655.2b0bc686@gamma.busse> References: <20120317124304.5f86000b@gamma.busse> <20120317180408.28e8a6e3@eris.sumpf> <20120317203655.2b0bc686@gamma.busse> Message-ID: <20120318161804.1cf6808b@eris.sumpf> > > There's a setting in Preferences --> Compose --> Writing. > > In my version (3.7.9) there is only such a setting for /forwarding/ > of messages as attachment, not for a /reply/. > Sorry, didn't read your mail thoroughly. I think the only way to do it is to attach the mail manually. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sun Mar 18 15:30:57 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 15:30:57 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2633] Ldap write support is not well documented; some behavior is unintuitive. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120318143058.11546853FE@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2633 --- Comment #2 from mello 2012-03-18 15:30:57 --- Thanks, now that i know how thing work, for me it's not a problem (i am so happy that claws-mail support ldap write!); i submitted the bug (on advice of claw on irc channel, that confirmed me ldap write support) only to help other, so that they know that ldap write is supported and how to "use" it. Thanks again. Bye, Mello. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From jseymour at LinxNet.com Sun Mar 18 17:33:56 2012 From: jseymour at LinxNet.com (Jim Seymour) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 12:33:56 -0400 Subject: [Users] "Warning: The following plugins failed to load..." Following Upgrade Message-ID: <20120318123356.6fbbcc78@jimsun> Just a heads up for Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid) users. I just applied the recommended updates and, upon restarting claws-mail, got... Warning The following plugins failed to load. Check the Plugins configuration for more information: Fancy HTML Viewer Notification Mail Archiver Not handy :( Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at . From mir at miras.org Sun Mar 18 18:28:15 2012 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 18:28:15 +0100 Subject: [Users] "Warning: The following plugins failed to load..." Following Upgrade In-Reply-To: <20120318123356.6fbbcc78@jimsun> References: <20120318123356.6fbbcc78@jimsun> Message-ID: <20120318182815.37c62613@sleipner.datanom.net> On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 12:33:56 -0400 Jim Seymour wrote: > Just a heads up for Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid) users. I just applied the > recommended updates and, upon restarting claws-mail, got... > > Warning > > The following plugins failed to load. Check the > Plugins configuration for more information: > > Fancy HTML Viewer > Notification > Mail Archiver > I have just upgraded my ubuntu 10.04 x86_84 and loaded the mentioned plugins. No error here. You are certain that you have used the ppa for installing claws-mail and not compiled it yourself? -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jseymour at LinxNet.com Sun Mar 18 18:34:54 2012 From: jseymour at LinxNet.com (Jim Seymour) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 13:34:54 -0400 Subject: [Users] "Warning: The following plugins failed to load..." Following Upgrade In-Reply-To: <20120318182815.37c62613@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20120318123356.6fbbcc78@jimsun> <20120318182815.37c62613@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20120318133454.45f60b57@jimsun> On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 18:28:15 +0100 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 12:33:56 -0400 > Jim Seymour wrote: > > > Just a heads up for Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid) users. I just applied > > the recommended updates and, upon restarting claws-mail, got... > > > > Warning > > > > The following plugins failed to load. Check the > > Plugins configuration for more information: > > > > Fancy HTML Viewer > > Notification > > Mail Archiver > > > I have just upgraded my ubuntu 10.04 x86_84 and loaded the mentioned > plugins. No error here. You are certain that you have used the ppa > for installing claws-mail and not compiled it yourself? > If I'd compiled Claws-Mail myself, the update would've had no effect. Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at . From mir at miras.org Sun Mar 18 18:36:10 2012 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 18:36:10 +0100 Subject: [Users] "Warning: The following plugins failed to load..." Following Upgrade In-Reply-To: <20120318182815.37c62613@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20120318123356.6fbbcc78@jimsun> <20120318182815.37c62613@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20120318183610.50551958@sleipner.datanom.net> On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 18:28:15 +0100 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > I have just upgraded my ubuntu 10.04 x86_84 and loaded the mentioned > plugins. No error here. You are certain that you have used the ppa for > installing claws-mail and not compiled it yourself? > Just in case I also tried the native 3.7.4 version of claws-mail supplied from the default main repository - same situation. My guess is that you have a mix of own-compiled plugins togetter with a pre-build claws from the repository. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Following Upgrade In-Reply-To: <20120318133454.45f60b57@jimsun> References: <20120318123356.6fbbcc78@jimsun> <20120318182815.37c62613@sleipner.datanom.net> <20120318133454.45f60b57@jimsun> Message-ID: <20120318183800.528416a0@sleipner.datanom.net> On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 13:34:54 -0400 Jim Seymour wrote: > > If I'd compiled Claws-Mail myself, the update would've had no effect. > Id would if for some reason the upgrade pulled in a pre-build package of claws-mail - the version would be lower than the version for which your plugins were build against. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mir at miras.org Sun Mar 18 18:41:15 2012 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 18:41:15 +0100 Subject: [Users] "Warning: The following plugins failed to load..." Following Upgrade In-Reply-To: <20120318183610.50551958@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20120318123356.6fbbcc78@jimsun> <20120318182815.37c62613@sleipner.datanom.net> <20120318183610.50551958@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20120318184115.29ab7656@sleipner.datanom.net> On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 18:36:10 +0100 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > My guess is that you have a mix of own-compiled plugins togetter with a > pre-build claws from the repository. > Do you have a claws-mail in these places: /usr/bin/claws-mail /usr/local/bin/claws-mail If so what does the following show /usr/bin/claws-mail -v /usr/local/bin/claws-mail -v -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jseymour at LinxNet.com Sun Mar 18 18:48:12 2012 From: jseymour at LinxNet.com (Jim Seymour) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 13:48:12 -0400 Subject: [Users] "Warning: The following plugins failed to load..." Following Upgrade In-Reply-To: <20120318184115.29ab7656@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20120318123356.6fbbcc78@jimsun> <20120318182815.37c62613@sleipner.datanom.net> <20120318183610.50551958@sleipner.datanom.net> <20120318184115.29ab7656@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20120318134812.007c2a67@jimsun> On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 18:41:15 +0100 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 18:36:10 +0100 > Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > > My guess is that you have a mix of own-compiled plugins togetter > > with a pre-build claws from the repository. > > > Do you have a claws-mail in these places: > /usr/bin/claws-mail > /usr/local/bin/claws-mail [snip] Just /usr/bin/claws-mail $ /usr/bin/claws-mail -v Claws Mail version 3.7.6 I just unloaded the three plugins, did a "remove complete" of all of them with Synaptic, restarted claws-mail to confirm they were no longer offered (the plugin thing took me to $HOME/.claws-mail), quit claws-mail, re-installed the plugins, restarted claws-mail and tried to load the first one. Same error. My repository listing shows 3.7.6 for claws-mail and some other stuff, 3.7.4 for everything else. Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at . From jseymour at LinxNet.com Sun Mar 18 18:50:53 2012 From: jseymour at LinxNet.com (Jim Seymour) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 13:50:53 -0400 Subject: [Users] "Warning: The following plugins failed to load..." Following Upgrade In-Reply-To: <20120318183800.528416a0@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20120318123356.6fbbcc78@jimsun> <20120318182815.37c62613@sleipner.datanom.net> <20120318133454.45f60b57@jimsun> <20120318183800.528416a0@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20120318135053.59ca775b@jimsun> On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 18:38:00 +0100 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 13:34:54 -0400 > Jim Seymour wrote: > > > > > If I'd compiled Claws-Mail myself, the update would've had no > > effect. > > > Id would if for some reason the upgrade pulled in a pre-build > package of claws-mail - the version would be lower than the version > for which your plugins were build against. Yes, but, had I built my own, I'd be running my own, and ignoring the one from the repos. When I build my own, I build into /usr/local and modify menu entries. I don't over-write standard installs. Regardless: I'm using all stuff from the distro on my Linux boxen. Thanks for the help. Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at . From berndth at gmx.de Sun Mar 18 19:06:07 2012 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 19:06:07 +0100 Subject: [Users] "Warning: The following plugins failed to load..." Following Upgrade In-Reply-To: <20120318134812.007c2a67@jimsun> References: <20120318123356.6fbbcc78@jimsun> <20120318182815.37c62613@sleipner.datanom.net> <20120318183610.50551958@sleipner.datanom.net> <20120318184115.29ab7656@sleipner.datanom.net> <20120318134812.007c2a67@jimsun> Message-ID: <20120318190607.4bdbb5c0@wodan> On So, 18.03.2012 13:48, Jim Seymour wrote: >My repository listing shows 3.7.6 for claws-mail and some other >stuff, 3.7.4 for everything else. This is clearly a packaging bug. If you don't use the PPA, but the packages from your distribution, you should report this bug to your distribution. Holger From jseymour at LinxNet.com Sun Mar 18 19:06:31 2012 From: jseymour at LinxNet.com (Jim Seymour) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 14:06:31 -0400 Subject: [Users] "Warning: The following plugins failed to load..." Following Upgrade In-Reply-To: <20120318123356.6fbbcc78@jimsun> References: <20120318123356.6fbbcc78@jimsun> Message-ID: <20120318140631.1ea3fb11@jimsun> Well, this is "interesting..." I de-installed *all* of claws-mail and related components, looking to reinstall, using apt-get, specifying 3.7.4, which was still in the repos. Between the time I did an "apt-cache showpkg claws-mail", and saw both 3.7.6 and 3.7.4 in there, and deinstalled what I had, 3.7.6 disappeared from the repos. I think somebody realized they screwed-up. Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at . From slitt at troubleshooters.com Sun Mar 18 20:52:29 2012 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 15:52:29 -0400 Subject: [Users] How to search folders recursively? In-Reply-To: <20120316022225.78659b71@net24.it> References: <20120315151502.59d165f4@mydesk> <20120316020427.13d5c3b1@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120316022225.78659b71@net24.it> Message-ID: <20120318155229.1fdc18c9@mydesk> On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 02:22:25 +0100 Salvatore De Paolis wrote: > Hi Michael, > > On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 02:04:27 +0100 > Michael wrote: > > > There is one way with 'quicksearch' (clicking the little magnifier > > glass icon above the mesdsage text window). Just select the top > > folder, and do the search. I couldn't figure out what to put in the 'quicksearch' window. I tried a typical procmail regex: ^From.*troubleshooters.com and it didn't find any of my emails to myself. So exactly what do you put in that "quicksearch" window? > > It won't work if you do not select 'Recursive' first. Exactly where and how does one select 'Recursive'? I could find no place to do it. I have a suggestion for Claws' "search messages" dialog box. In addition to checkboxes "case sensitive" and "extended search", add another checkbox called "recursive". If "recursive" is checked then the search is conducted not only in the highlighted directory, but in those below it. Care must be taken so that the "Stop" button that appears during a "Find all" operation continues functioning. My guess would be this is pretty easy for anyone familiar with Claws' code base. The existing "search messages" algorithm would remain unchanged, but would simply be put in a recursion loop if the "recursive" checkbox is checked. I'd imagine the recursion loop is already written because it's what gives you the list of folders under a folder. I think this addition would be immensely helpful to a lot of people, with little extra work. Thanks SteveT From iwkse at claws-mail.org Sun Mar 18 21:07:58 2012 From: iwkse at claws-mail.org (Salvatore De Paolis) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 21:07:58 +0100 Subject: [Users] How to search folders recursively? In-Reply-To: <20120318155229.1fdc18c9@mydesk> References: <20120315151502.59d165f4@mydesk> <20120316020427.13d5c3b1@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120316022225.78659b71@net24.it> <20120318155229.1fdc18c9@mydesk> Message-ID: <20120318210758.60be705a@net24.it> On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 15:52:29 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: Hi, > and it didn't find any of my emails to myself. So exactly what do you > put in that "quicksearch" window? Here: http://www.claws-mail.org/documentation.php > Exactly where and how does one select 'Recursive'? I could find no > place to do it. Recursive is selectable from the combo. > I have a suggestion for Claws' "search messages" dialog box. In > addition to checkboxes "case sensitive" and "extended search", add > another checkbox called "recursive". If "recursive" is checked then the > search is conducted not only in the highlighted directory, but in those > below it. Care must be taken so that the "Stop" button that appears > during a "Find all" operation continues functioning. That's what already Recursive does in Claws Mail. -- Salvatore From brad at fineby.me.uk Sun Mar 18 21:08:44 2012 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 20:08:44 +0000 Subject: [Users] How to search folders recursively? In-Reply-To: <20120318155229.1fdc18c9@mydesk> References: <20120315151502.59d165f4@mydesk> <20120316020427.13d5c3b1@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120316022225.78659b71@net24.it> <20120318155229.1fdc18c9@mydesk> Message-ID: <20120318200844.1d507943@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 15:52:29 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: Hello Steve, > Exactly where and how does one select 'Recursive'? I could find no > place to do it. Click on the dropdown list at the LHS of the text entry gadget, half way down there's a "recursive" option, followed by "sticky" and a couple of other items. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" I ain't got no time for intellectual music, e.g. Hergest Ridge Heads Down No Nonsense Mindless Boogie - Alberto y Lost Trios Paranoias -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In your case would be, f troubleshooters.com -- Salvatore From pf at pfortin.com Mon Mar 19 17:05:08 2012 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:05:08 -0400 Subject: [Users] Bogus send error? Message-ID: <20120319120508.34516cac@pfortin.com> Hi, Had 20 photos to send to a client. Due to sizes, I decided to send 4 per email. So I prepared the 5 emails, then hit Send on the first one. Then, while the first was still transmitting, I hit Send on the next ones, each time getting: (-) Error Already trying to send. Use "Send queued messages" from the main window to retry. I've done this many times in the past; but don't recall getting this error. Also, I don't recall having to hit Send from the Queue folder as was the case this time. If a message is being sent, is there any reason not to just silently queue it and proceed with sending automatically? Another strange nit: when I went into the Queue folder, the "attachment" paper-clip did not appear next to each queued message until I clicked on them... Should I bug these? Pierre From romainguinot at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 17:21:11 2012 From: romainguinot at gmail.com (Romain) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 17:21:11 +0100 Subject: [Users] Slow opening of large folders / folder "reload" Message-ID: Hi Guys, I've been using claws for a few months now and i like it a lot. I'm currently using 3.8.0 on Fedora 16 against my company's Zimbra LDAP. The problem i have is that sometimes -- can't really pinpoint why -- when opening large folders (e.g. > 5000 messages), claws takes a very long time to open the folder, with a progress bar in the bottom that seems to be re-reading every message from that folder (see attached screenshot). That operation blocks any mail sending/receiving while that progress bar is in progress. Is there something i have mis-configured ? Killing & relaunching claws, and clicking on the folder it couldn't open is generally instantaneous after restarting claws. It does not always occur on the same folder, nor does it happen every time, but it's more likely to happen if the folder is large. Please let me know what you think, Cheers, Romain. -- Romain. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: folder-reload.png Type: image/png Size: 2683 bytes Desc: not available URL: From avrunin at math.umass.edu Mon Mar 19 20:56:56 2012 From: avrunin at math.umass.edu (George Avrunin) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:56:56 -0400 Subject: [Users] claws crashing when sending on Fedora 16 with new KDE rpms Message-ID: <20120319155656.3a50315c@ext.math.umass.edu> Last night I did a yum update and got a lot of kde 4.8.1 rpms on my Fedora 16 boxes. No changes to claws-mail. Now claws-mail crashes when I try to send when I'm running in KDE, although it seems to be fine in gnome. I've posted a message on the kde at lists.fedoraproject.org (and sent the abrt stuff to Redhat's bugzilla), but I thought I'd check here to see if anyone else has encountered this or has any suggestions about working around it (other than switching to gnome or something like that). The message does seem to get sent. Claws shows "Scanning folder avrunin at ext.math.umass.edu/Queue" at the bottom and then dies. (avrunin at ext.math.umass.edu is the name of the account.) Thanks, George -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Now claws-mail crashes when I try to > send > when I'm running in KDE, although it seems to be fine in gnome. > > I've posted a message on the kde at lists.fedoraproject.org (and sent the > abrt > stuff to Redhat's bugzilla), but I thought I'd check here to see if anyone > else has encountered this or has any suggestions about working around it > (other than switching to gnome or something like that). > > The message does seem to get sent. Claws shows "Scanning folder > avrunin at ext.math.umass.edu/Queue" at the bottom and then dies. > (avrunin at ext.math.umass.edu is the name of the account.) > > Thanks, > > George > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > > -- Romain. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm using kde 4.8.1 with no problems (Claws or KDE). with regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From mm at edor.eu Mon Mar 19 22:19:38 2012 From: mm at edor.eu (Uwe) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 22:19:38 +0100 Subject: [Users] test Message-ID: <20120319221938.2c8fb898@gp> From mm at edor.eu Mon Mar 19 22:22:25 2012 From: mm at edor.eu (Uwe) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 22:22:25 +0100 Subject: [Users] plug-in feature request Message-ID: <20120319222225.6814f62b@gp> I would like to see the "Gnome" plugin integrated into claws mail plugin package. from here: http://berndth.blogspot.de/search/label/Claws%20Mail: > This plugin provides Gnome integration features. > Currently, the only implemented functionality is to include the Gnome > addressbook in Claws Mail's address completion. code from here: https://github.com/hb/claws_mail_gnome_plugin It is very handy, if you use the gnome address book. As for me, because I have a Funambol sync between my smartphone and my desktop. So the addresses are available in claws mail compose window. best regards, Uwe From avrunin at math.umass.edu Mon Mar 19 22:59:13 2012 From: avrunin at math.umass.edu (George Avrunin) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 17:59:13 -0400 Subject: [Users] claws crashing when sending on Fedora 16 with new KDE rpms In-Reply-To: <20120319155656.3a50315c@ext.math.umass.edu> References: <20120319155656.3a50315c@ext.math.umass.edu> Message-ID: <20120319175913.6e53b810@g3.localdomain> On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:56:56 -0400, George Avrunin wrote: > Last night I did a yum update and got a lot of kde 4.8.1 rpms on my > Fedora 16 boxes. No changes to claws-mail. Now claws-mail crashes when > I try to send when I'm running in KDE, although it seems to be fine in > gnome. > > I've posted a message on the kde at lists.fedoraproject.org (and sent the > abrt stuff to Redhat's bugzilla), but I thought I'd check here to see if > anyone else has encountered this or has any suggestions about working > around it (other than switching to gnome or something like that). > > The message does seem to get sent. Claws shows "Scanning folder > avrunin at ext.math.umass.edu/Queue" at the bottom and then dies. > (avrunin at ext.math.umass.edu is the name of the account.) > > Thanks, > > George > > I also tried running claws-mail from the command line with the "--debug" flag. I don't see anything odd in the output (but I could be misunderstanding what I'm seeing) until I send a message and claws crashes, at which point I see Gdk-ERROR **: The program 'claws-mail' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)'. (Details: serial 54106 error_code 3 request_code 151 minor_code 3) (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously; that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it. To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.) Trace/breakpoint trap Perhaps I misunderstand the instructions, it sounds like to use the --sync, I'd have to run claws in a debugger? (And so need all the -debug rpms, which I don't have on the machine I'm sending this from. I can try that tomorrow.) George -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Holger From slitt at troubleshooters.com Tue Mar 20 01:13:25 2012 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 20:13:25 -0400 Subject: [Users] I need advice on making a recursive search Message-ID: <20120319201325.15a52543@mydesk> Hi all, I'm evaluating whether I have the time and ability to add recursion to the "Search Messages" facility normally popped up with the Ctrl+S button. Because the code is written with a lot of callbacks substituting for algorithm (it seems vaguely reminiscent of Model View Controller on first look), I'm finding it somewhat tough going. Here's what I've found so far: summary_search.c static struct SummarySearchWindow Add GtkWidget *recursive_checkbtn static void summary_search_create(void) Declare/define GtkWidget *recursive_checkbtn; Run on recursive_checkbtn, similar to case_checkbtn: gtk_check_button_new_with_label(), gtk_widget_show() gtk_box_pack_start() Maybe run either or both of these on recursive_checkbtn: SET_TOGGLE_SENSITIVITY_REVERSE() SET_TOGGLE_SENSITIVITY() search_window.recursive_checkbtn = recursive_checkbtn static void summary_search_execute(gboolean backward, gboolean search_all) Declare/define gboolean recursive_search gtk_toggle_button_get_active() for recursive_search From function's bottom, find what code does the search Find a way to put that code in a loop Putting the search code in a loop will be somewhat challenging because the search is intermingled with user interface. That leaves finding a folder recursion algorithm. I know the folder properties dialog is contained in prefs_folder_item.c, but that appears to be just user interface. Can anyone point me to a straightforward folder recursion in the source code? Thanks SteveT From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Mar 20 08:48:14 2012 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 07:48:14 +0000 Subject: [Users] I need advice on making a recursive search In-Reply-To: <20120319201325.15a52543@mydesk> References: <20120319201325.15a52543@mydesk> Message-ID: <20120320074814.419154de@thewildbeast> On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 20:13:25 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Can anyone point me to a straightforward > folder recursion in the source code? The Quick Search feature does recursive searching, so you might look at its code for some ideas. But then again, since the Quick Search already does recursive searching you might consider saving yourself the trouble of extending the other search and just use Quick Search instead. with regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From avrunin at math.umass.edu Tue Mar 20 11:28:39 2012 From: avrunin at math.umass.edu (George Avrunin) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 06:28:39 -0400 Subject: [Users] [SOLVED, sort of] claws crashing when sending on Fedora 16 with new KDE rpms In-Reply-To: <20120319175913.6e53b810@g3.localdomain> References: <20120319155656.3a50315c@ext.math.umass.edu> <20120319175913.6e53b810@g3.localdomain> Message-ID: <20120320062839.506eb5aa@g3.localdomain> Kevin Kofler, on the Fedora KDE mailing list, suggested it might be a problem with the oxygen-gtk2 theme and that I could test by switching to the Adwaita theme. That does indeed make claws stop crashing when I send a message. So the bug is in the oxygen-gtk2 theme and will be reported that way. George -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 190 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mm at edor.eu Tue Mar 20 13:36:56 2012 From: mm at edor.eu (Uwe) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 13:36:56 +0100 Subject: [Users] plug-in feature request In-Reply-To: <20120320000457.1b0ae06e@wodan> References: <20120319222225.6814f62b@gp> <20120320000457.1b0ae06e@wodan> Message-ID: <20120320133656.105fb37f@gp> On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 00:04:57 +0100 Holger Berndt wrote: > On Mo, 19.03.2012 22:22, Uwe wrote: > > >It is very handy, if you use the gnome address book. As for me, > >because I have a Funambol sync between my smartphone and my desktop. > >So the addresses are available in claws mail compose window. > > Does it work for you? Is it still working in GNOME 3? The plugin is > not very well maintained (in fact, I haven't looked at it for a while > now - I switched to Google and the gdata plugin for my addressbook). Yes, it is working well, but I'm still on Gnome2. I do not use google for my contacts and calendar, because I like to have my privacy on my own machine. Just installed locally my own funambol server and syncing with the evolution address book and calendar. And your plug-in is at time the only possibility to use the open -sync stuff, with claws mail. On gnome3 could work as well, if the evolution stuff get installed, but I didn't test it so far. > > Holger > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > best regards, Uwe From romainguinot at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 14:12:23 2012 From: romainguinot at gmail.com (Romain) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 14:12:23 +0100 Subject: [Users] Slow opening of large folders / folder "reload" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No takers ? Thanks, Romain. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Romain wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I've been using claws for a few months now and i like it a lot. > I'm currently using 3.8.0 on Fedora 16 against my company's Zimbra LDAP. > > The problem i have is that sometimes -- can't really pinpoint why -- when > opening large folders (e.g. > 5000 messages), claws takes a very long time > to open the folder, with a progress bar in the bottom that seems to be > re-reading every message from that folder (see attached screenshot). > > That operation blocks any mail sending/receiving while that progress bar > is in progress. > Is there something i have mis-configured ? > > Killing & relaunching claws, and clicking on the folder it couldn't open > is generally instantaneous after restarting claws. > It does not always occur on the same folder, nor does it happen every > time, but it's more likely to happen if the folder is large. > > Please let me know what you think, > Cheers, > Romain. > > -- > Romain. > -- Romain. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From codejodler at gmx.ch Tue Mar 20 14:37:53 2012 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 14:37:53 +0100 Subject: [Users] I need advice on making a recursive search In-Reply-To: <20120320074814.419154de@thewildbeast> References: <20120319201325.15a52543@mydesk> <20120320074814.419154de@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20120320143753.57635706@mirrors.kernel.org> To be something new, and useful, a recursive search would assemble the hits in a 'virtual' list, in something like a dedicated 'searches' folder (but only containing links, not copies) with editable messages (delete, open, reply, move...). I guess that's rather much changes to claws. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Mar 20 15:23:29 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 15:23:29 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2617] code cleanup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120320142329.CDAA9853B1@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2617 Christian Hesse changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #1088|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #12 from Christian Hesse 2012-03-20 15:23:28 --- Created an attachment (id=1092) --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1092) Code cleanup Rebases on current cvs... Last activity was two and a half week ago... Still any objections or will this be merged? -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From inpost at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 22:02:26 2012 From: inpost at gmail.com (e-letter) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 21:02:26 +0000 Subject: [Users] keyboard shortcut error, view messages Message-ID: Readers, Have discovered that the shortcut 'n' to navigate to the next message does not work. In smallscreen mode, the behaviour is that the message view window changes the mime type (e.g. text/plain, text/html) clawsmail375 From littlergirl at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 23:41:30 2012 From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:41:30 -0400 Subject: [Users] Slow opening of large folders / folder "reload" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4f69079b.46c4e00a.1aad.fffff062@mx.google.com> Hey there, Romain wrote: > > I've been using claws for a few months now and i like it a lot. > > I'm currently using 3.8.0 on Fedora 16 against my company's > > Zimbra LDAP. > > > > The problem i have is that sometimes -- can't really pinpoint why > > -- when opening large folders (e.g. > 5000 messages), claws takes > > a very long time to open the folder, with a progress bar in the > > bottom that seems to be re-reading every message from that folder > > (see attached screenshot). > > > > That operation blocks any mail sending/receiving while that > > progress bar is in progress. > > Is there something i have mis-configured ? > > > > Killing & relaunching claws, and clicking on the folder it > > couldn't open is generally instantaneous after restarting claws. > > It does not always occur on the same folder, nor does it happen > > every time, but it's more likely to happen if the folder is large. > No takers ? I don't have any folders as big as yours. My biggest one has 2500 messages, and it takes probably less than half a second to open. Do you have any filters or processing that run when the folder is opened? -- Little Girl There is no spoon. From romainguinot at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 23:55:42 2012 From: romainguinot at gmail.com (Romain) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:55:42 +0100 Subject: [Users] Slow opening of large folders / folder "reload" In-Reply-To: <4f69079b.46c4e00a.1aad.fffff062@mx.google.com> References: <4f69079b.46c4e00a.1aad.fffff062@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi, On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Little Girl wrote: > Hey there, > > Romain wrote: > > > > I've been using claws for a few months now and i like it a lot. > > > I'm currently using 3.8.0 on Fedora 16 against my company's > > > Zimbra LDAP. > > > > > > The problem i have is that sometimes -- can't really pinpoint why > > > -- when opening large folders (e.g. > 5000 messages), claws takes > > > a very long time to open the folder, with a progress bar in the > > > bottom that seems to be re-reading every message from that folder > > > (see attached screenshot). > > > > > > That operation blocks any mail sending/receiving while that > > > progress bar is in progress. > > > Is there something i have mis-configured ? > > > > > > Killing & relaunching claws, and clicking on the folder it > > > couldn't open is generally instantaneous after restarting claws. > > > It does not always occur on the same folder, nor does it happen > > > every time, but it's more likely to happen if the folder is large. > > > No takers ? > > I don't have any folders as big as yours. My biggest one has 2500 > messages, and it takes probably less than half a second to open. Do > you have any filters or processing that run when the folder is opened? > > Nope, no filters or processing rules. The rules to direct emails into specific folders are defined server-side. The network activity dialog from claws showed that when that happens, claws seems to be pulling around 1k bytes per message of the folder from the server. I'm not using my work laptop now so i don't have claws, but i can probably attach some sample log lines sometime tomorrow, if that helps. Could something be off with the caching maybe ? i generally ticked the 'synchronize for offline use' option. Regards, Romain. > -- > Little Girl > > There is no spoon. > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > -- Romain. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fragabr at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 00:19:31 2012 From: fragabr at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?RMOibmllbA==?= Fraga) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:19:31 -0300 Subject: [Users] Fancy Plugin: text to link? Message-ID: Just a suggestion: sometimes I receive a Youtube or Facebook e-mail with a text link (I cannot click, using Fancy plugin). Using Firefox, I can use the following extension which do exactly what I want: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/text-link/ Is there a way to put this feature in Fancy? Thanks. -- Linux 3.2.2: Saber-toothed Squirrel http://www.youtube.com/DanielFragaBR From johnxj at comcast.net Wed Mar 21 01:16:23 2012 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:16:23 -0700 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 00:17:02 -0800 John Jason Jordan dijo: Still haven't got it working the way it used to work, but first an update. I now have Claws Mail 3.8.0 on my Fedora 16 x86_64 computer using Xfce desktop environment, and Firefox is now 11.0. I should also add that my main browser is Firefox, and I always have at least four windows open, each with half a dozen tabs, and all are normally minimized. It used to be that when I clicked on a link in a mail message it would bring up the most recent window (un-minimize it), open a new tab, and open the link in the new tab. I have tried tweaking the line in Preferences > External Programs as follows: firefox %s Opens the link in a new tab in Firefox, but does not restore focus and un-minimize the window. I have to un-minimize each window to find the new tab. firefox --newtab %s Opens a new tab in a new un-minimized window, but does not load the link. In addition, clicking on a link in a web page in Firefox opens the link in a new tab and shifts focus to the new tab. In other words, Firefox is working as it should be. It seems to me that the problem is the syntax in the Preferences > External Programs window. I need to tweak "firefox --newtab %s" (as above) so that it doesn't just open a new window and a new tab, but also opens the link in the new tab. What syntax will do this? From codejodler at gmx.ch Wed Mar 21 01:32:01 2012 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 01:32:01 +0100 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120321013201.7888f8c7@mirrors.kernel.org> John, Perhaps it helps putting the %s as '%s' ? From littlergirl at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 01:32:39 2012 From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:32:39 -0400 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <4f6921a7.8c12e00a.7bb7.0252@mx.google.com> Hey there, John Jason Jordan wrote: > Still haven't got it working the way it used to work, but first an > update. I now have Claws Mail 3.8.0 on my Fedora 16 x86_64 computer > using Xfce desktop environment, and Firefox is now 11.0. > > I should also add that my main browser is Firefox, and I always > have at least four windows open, each with half a dozen tabs, and > all are normally minimized. > > It used to be that when I clicked on a link in a mail message it > would bring up the most recent window (un-minimize it), open a new > tab, and open the link in the new tab. > > I have tried tweaking the line in Preferences > External Programs as > follows: I have the box checked next to "Use system defaults when possible" and it opens a link in a new tab if Firefox is minimized. It doesn't unminimize it, though, but I wouldn't want it to. (: > firefox %s > Opens the link in a new tab in Firefox, but does not restore > focus and un-minimize the window. I have to un-minimize each > window to find the new tab. > > firefox --newtab %s > Opens a new tab in a new un-minimized window, but does not > load the link. > > In addition, clicking on a link in a web page in Firefox opens the > link in a new tab and shifts focus to the new tab. In other words, > Firefox is working as it should be. > It seems to me that the problem is the syntax in the Preferences > > External Programs window. I need to tweak "firefox --newtab %s" (as > above) so that it doesn't just open a new window and a new tab, but > also opens the link in the new tab. What syntax will do this? It sounds to me like it's a Firefox setting or settings. Have you tried adjusting the settings in Edit --> Preferences --> Tabs inside of Firefox? -- Little Girl There is no spoon. From codejodler at gmx.ch Wed Mar 21 02:49:53 2012 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 02:49:53 +0100 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <4f6921a7.8c12e00a.7bb7.0252@mx.google.com> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f6921a7.8c12e00a.7bb7.0252@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <20120321024953.1bd7f4af@mirrors.kernel.org> Ah, i see. Try -new-tab :) From johnxj at comcast.net Wed Mar 21 03:48:39 2012 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 19:48:39 -0700 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20120321024953.1bd7f4af@mirrors.kernel.org> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f6921a7.8c12e00a.7bb7.0252@mx.google.com> <20120321024953.1bd7f4af@mirrors.kernel.org> Message-ID: <20120320194839.5e28ebe4@mailhost.pdx.edu> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 02:49:53 +0100 Michael dijo: >Ah, i see. > >Try -new-tab :) firefox -new-tab %s firefox --new-tab %s firefox -new-tab '%s' Or other combinations with "new-tab" all open the link in a new tab, but only in the most recently used window, and do not un-minimize the window so I have to un-minimize all the windows one at a time to find the one it opened the tab in firefox -newtab %s firefox --newtab %s firefox --newtab '%s' Or other combination with "newtab" all open a new un-minimized Firefox window with a new tab, but fail to load the link in the new tab. I have tried putting single or double quotes around various parts of the expression, but they are always ignored. Ditto for how many dashes in front of "new-tab" and "newtab" I use. The only difference I can make is whether I use "new-tab" or "newtab": The former gives me the link but does not create a new un-minimized window and tab; and the latter gives me the new un-minimized window and tab, but does not load the link. The Claws Mail documentation is very skimpy on this subject. Yet I have seen such expressions in many places in Linux. I wonder if there is a standard Linux syntax for passing arguments to other programs. From codejodler at gmx.ch Wed Mar 21 03:58:12 2012 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 03:58:12 +0100 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20120320194839.5e28ebe4@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f6921a7.8c12e00a.7bb7.0252@mx.google.com> <20120321024953.1bd7f4af@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320194839.5e28ebe4@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120321035812.057941ce@mirrors.kernel.org> John, Did you check 'open in new tab and switch it immediately' in firefox ? From codejodler at gmx.ch Wed Mar 21 04:02:48 2012 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 04:02:48 +0100 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20120321035812.057941ce@mirrors.kernel.org> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f6921a7.8c12e00a.7bb7.0252@mx.google.com> <20120321024953.1bd7f4af@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320194839.5e28ebe4@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321035812.057941ce@mirrors.kernel.org> Message-ID: <20120321040248.575673c0@mirrors.kernel.org> > Did you check 'open in new tab and switch it immediately' in firefox ? Well, actually it does not work for me either ... :| From johnxj at comcast.net Wed Mar 21 04:05:12 2012 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:05:12 -0700 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20120321035812.057941ce@mirrors.kernel.org> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f6921a7.8c12e00a.7bb7.0252@mx.google.com> <20120321024953.1bd7f4af@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320194839.5e28ebe4@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321035812.057941ce@mirrors.kernel.org> Message-ID: <20120320200512.79dc647c@mailhost.pdx.edu> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 03:58:12 +0100 Michael dijo: >Did you check 'open in new tab and switch it immediately' in firefox ? Yes, in Firefox Preferences the box is checked for "When I open a link in a new tab, switch to it immediately." And this is what happens when I click on a link in a Firefox page. From codejodler at gmx.ch Wed Mar 21 04:18:43 2012 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 04:18:43 +0100 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20120320200512.79dc647c@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f6921a7.8c12e00a.7bb7.0252@mx.google.com> <20120321024953.1bd7f4af@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320194839.5e28ebe4@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321035812.057941ce@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320200512.79dc647c@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120321041843.11879eec@mirrors.kernel.org> > Yes, in Firefox Preferences the box is checked for "When I open a link > in a new tab, switch to it immediately." And this is what happens when > I click on a link in a Firefox page. But it does not seem to happen for me even when i call firefox -new-tab from a commandline. So this should be a firefox bug. From johnxj at comcast.net Wed Mar 21 04:20:34 2012 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:20:34 -0700 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20120320194839.5e28ebe4@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f6921a7.8c12e00a.7bb7.0252@mx.google.com> <20120321024953.1bd7f4af@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320194839.5e28ebe4@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120320202034.721a4fdd@mailhost.pdx.edu> On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 19:48:39 -0700 John Jason Jordan dijo: Additional information: The computer with Claws Mail 3.8.0 on Fedora 16 x86_64 is my laptop. I also have a desktop computer with Sylpheed 3.0.2 on Lucid x86_64. When I click on a link in Sylpheed it brings up a Firefox window, opens a new tab, and loads the link. If Firefox is minimized it brings it up on the screen; if Firefox is not running it launches Firefox. Under external programs it is set to: firefox '%s' But setting it to that in Claws Mail does not bring up the window. That's the maddening part - having to hunt through all my running Firefox windows to find the tab. It used to work the same way in Claws Mail on the laptop. But several months ago I discovered that it had stopped bringing up the window. Of course, there have been dozens of changes, new versions, updates, settings, that have gone on over the past several months. Figuring out when it happened and what caused it is impossible. From johnxj at comcast.net Wed Mar 21 04:42:15 2012 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:42:15 -0700 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20120321041843.11879eec@mirrors.kernel.org> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f6921a7.8c12e00a.7bb7.0252@mx.google.com> <20120321024953.1bd7f4af@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320194839.5e28ebe4@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321035812.057941ce@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320200512.79dc647c@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321041843.11879eec@mirrors.kernel.org> Message-ID: <20120320204215.29d166af@mailhost.pdx.edu> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 04:18:43 +0100 Michael dijo: > >> Yes, in Firefox Preferences the box is checked for "When I open a >> link in a new tab, switch to it immediately." And this is what >> happens when I click on a link in a Firefox page. > >But it does not seem to happen for me even when i call firefox >-new-tab from a commandline. So this should be a firefox bug. Hmm. When I started this thread on January 11 I had Firefox 10.0.2 on the Fedora laptop. Claws Mail would open the link in a new tab, but not bring up the window. Today on my desktop computer with Lucid and Firefox 10.0.2, Sylpheed 3.0.2 does open the tab and bring up the Firefox window. This suggests that it is not in Firefox. However, Fedora and Ubuntu are quite different. Perhaps there are system settings somewhere that are causing the problem, although I don't have a clue where to start looking. Are there other users here with Fedora? Does clicking on a link bring up the Firefox window as well as loading the tab? How about users of other distros? From dan_arico at aricosystems.com Wed Mar 21 05:40:11 2012 From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 00:40:11 -0400 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20120320204215.29d166af@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f6921a7.8c12e00a.7bb7.0252@mx.google.com> <20120321024953.1bd7f4af@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320194839.5e28ebe4@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321035812.057941ce@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320200512.79dc647c@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321041843.11879eec@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320204215.29d166af@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120321004011.74563134.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> > >> Yes, in Firefox Preferences the box is checked for "When I open a > >> link in a new tab, switch to it immediately." And this is what > >> happens when I click on a link in a Firefox page. > > > >But it does not seem to happen for me even when i call firefox > >-new-tab from a commandline. So this should be a firefox bug. > > Hmm. > > When I started this thread on January 11 I had Firefox 10.0.2 on the > Fedora laptop. Claws Mail would open the link in a new tab, but not > bring up the window. > > Today on my desktop computer with Lucid and Firefox 10.0.2, Sylpheed > 3.0.2 does open the tab and bring up the Firefox window. > > This suggests that it is not in Firefox. > > However, Fedora and Ubuntu are quite different. Perhaps there are > system settings somewhere that are causing the problem, although I > don't have a clue where to start looking. > > Are there other users here with Fedora? Does clicking on a link bring > up the Firefox window as well as loading the tab? How about users of > other distros? I use OpenSUSE 12.1 and KDE. I'm having no problems at all, except that firefox opens a window behind the claws window and I have to shift focus. My setting are configured in the desktop settings. Dan Arico -- One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them, One OS to bring them all, and in the Darkness bind them, In the land of Redmond, where the Sales Reps lie. From rcook at pcug.org.au Wed Mar 21 05:48:28 2012 From: rcook at pcug.org.au (Owen) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:48:28 +1100 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20120320200512.79dc647c@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f6921a7.8c12e00a.7bb7.0252@mx.google.com> <20120321024953.1bd7f4af@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320194839.5e28ebe4@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321035812.057941ce@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320200512.79dc647c@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: > On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 03:58:12 +0100 > Michael dijo: > >>Did you check 'open in new tab and switch it immediately' in firefox >> ? > > Yes, in Firefox Preferences the box is checked for "When I open a link > in a new tab, switch to it immediately." And this is what happens when > I click on a link in a Firefox page. Try putting invertwed commas around the %s, eg, "%s" I have the full path to Firefox, don't know if it is necessary ot not. -- Owen From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Mar 21 08:27:50 2012 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 07:27:50 +0000 Subject: [Users] Fancy Plugin: text to link? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120321072750.2369b4b1@thewildbeast> On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:19:31 -0300 Dâniel Fraga wrote: > Just a suggestion: sometimes I receive a Youtube or Facebook > e-mail with a text link (I cannot click, using Fancy plugin). > > Using Firefox, I can use the following extension which do > exactly what I want: > > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/text-link/ > > Is there a way to put this feature in Fancy? Aren't these message properly formatted, (i.e. multipart/alternative) and have a similar plain part? If they do, then switch to the plain part, Claws already makes text links clickable. with regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Mar 21 08:34:06 2012 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 07:34:06 +0000 Subject: [Users] Fancy Plugin: text to link? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120321073406.4bd81e28@thewildbeast> On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:19:31 -0300 Dâniel Fraga wrote: > Just a suggestion: sometimes I receive a Youtube or Facebook > e-mail with a text link (I cannot click, using Fancy plugin). > > Using Firefox, I can use the following extension which do > exactly what I want: > > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/text-link/ > > Is there a way to put this feature in Fancy? Alternately, you can create an Action (/Configuration/Actions) like this: Menu Name: Open with/Firefox Command: firefox '%s'& Then select the text and activate the action. with regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From brad at fineby.me.uk Wed Mar 21 09:16:10 2012 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 08:16:10 +0000 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20120321004011.74563134.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f6921a7.8c12e00a.7bb7.0252@mx.google.com> <20120321024953.1bd7f4af@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320194839.5e28ebe4@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321035812.057941ce@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320200512.79dc647c@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321041843.11879eec@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320204215.29d166af@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321004011.74563134.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> Message-ID: <20120321081610.0523f27f@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 00:40:11 -0400 Dan Arico wrote: Hello Dan, > I use OpenSUSE 12.1 and KDE. I'm having no problems at all, except that > firefox opens a window behind the claws window and I have to shift > focus. I've started suffering this issue, too. I overcame it thus; Use Special Application Settings, from the window settings menu in the top left of firefox title bar. Tell it to accept focus stealing. This is in the Appearance and Fixes tab. More of a workaround than a fix, admittedly. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" I hope I live to relive the days gone by Old Before I Die - Robbie Williams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From pf at pfortin.com Wed Mar 21 11:18:36 2012 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 06:18:36 -0400 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20120320202034.721a4fdd@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f6921a7.8c12e00a.7bb7.0252@mx.google.com> <20120321024953.1bd7f4af@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320194839.5e28ebe4@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320202034.721a4fdd@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120321061836.06139728@pfortin.com> On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:20:34 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: > firefox '%s' > >But setting it to that in Claws Mail does not bring up the window. >That's the maddening part - having to hunt through all my running >Firefox windows to find the tab. Minimized all firefox windows, and clicked a link in CM3.8.0cvs26 -- last _used_ window (not last minimized) on another desktop opened to new tab with expected content. I've never seen the reported problem. My system is x86_64 Mageia 1 based, manually updated with Linux kernel 3.2.9 and firefox 14.0a1 Nightly[1]. CM is set to: /home/pfortin/Downloads/firefox/firefox '%s' I have another instance of CM running under a different userid, and the exact same setting (both users in same group) starts a new firefox with expected link... NSHBHTH (not sure how; but...) [1] http://nightly.mozilla.org/ From laszlo.kertesz at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 11:59:31 2012 From: laszlo.kertesz at gmail.com (Kertesz Laszlo) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:59:31 +0200 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20120321061836.06139728@pfortin.com> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f6921a7.8c12e00a.7bb7.0252@mx.google.com> <20120321024953.1bd7f4af@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320194839.5e28ebe4@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320202034.721a4fdd@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321061836.06139728@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20120321125931.7bd2c375@it-laptop> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 06:18:36 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:20:34 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: > > > firefox '%s' > > > >But setting it to that in Claws Mail does not bring up the window. > >That's the maddening part - having to hunt through all my running > >Firefox windows to find the tab. > > Minimized all firefox windows, and clicked a link in CM3.8.0cvs26 -- > last _used_ window (not last minimized) on another desktop opened to > new tab with expected content. I've never seen the reported problem. > > My system is x86_64 Mageia 1 based, manually updated with Linux kernel > 3.2.9 and firefox 14.0a1 Nightly[1]. CM is set to: > /home/pfortin/Downloads/firefox/firefox '%s' Tried: /home/pfortin/Downloads/firefox/firefox -new-window '%s' ? > > I have another instance of CM running under a different userid, and > the exact same setting (both users in same group) starts a new > firefox with expected link... > > NSHBHTH (not sure how; but...) > > [1] http://nightly.mozilla.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users -- O zi buna, Kertesz Laszlo From pf at pfortin.com Wed Mar 21 12:11:26 2012 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 07:11:26 -0400 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20120321125931.7bd2c375@it-laptop> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f6921a7.8c12e00a.7bb7.0252@mx.google.com> <20120321024953.1bd7f4af@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320194839.5e28ebe4@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320202034.721a4fdd@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321061836.06139728@pfortin.com> <20120321125931.7bd2c375@it-laptop> Message-ID: <20120321071126.6a291f90@pfortin.com> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:59:31 +0200 Kertesz Laszlo wrote: >On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 06:18:36 -0400 >Pierre Fortin wrote: > >> On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:20:34 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: >> >> > firefox '%s' >> > >> >But setting it to that in Claws Mail does not bring up the window. >> >That's the maddening part - having to hunt through all my running >> >Firefox windows to find the tab. >> >> Minimized all firefox windows, and clicked a link in CM3.8.0cvs26 -- >> last _used_ window (not last minimized) on another desktop opened to >> new tab with expected content. I've never seen the reported problem. >> >> My system is x86_64 Mageia 1 based, manually updated with Linux kernel >> 3.2.9 and firefox 14.0a1 Nightly[1]. CM is set to: >> /home/pfortin/Downloads/firefox/firefox '%s' > >Tried: > >/home/pfortin/Downloads/firefox/firefox -new-window '%s' > >? Works like a champ. Actually, I'm going to leave it like that because it avoids switching to my browser desktop. And now that firefox supports dragging tabs between windows, I can do that for the odd time I might want to keep a CM-opened tab around for a longer period. > >> >> I have another instance of CM running under a different userid, and >> the exact same setting (both users in same group) starts a new >> firefox with expected link... >> >> NSHBHTH (not sure how; but...) >> >> [1] http://nightly.mozilla.org/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> Users at lists.claws-mail.org >> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > > > From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Wed Mar 21 12:58:06 2012 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 11:58:06 +0000 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20120321004011.74563134.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f6921a7.8c12e00a.7bb7.0252@mx.google.com> <20120321024953.1bd7f4af@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320194839.5e28ebe4@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321035812.057941ce@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320200512.79dc647c@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321041843.11879eec@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320204215.29d166af@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321004011.74563134.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> Message-ID: <20120321115806.00006736@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 00:40:11 -0400 Dan Arico wrote: > except that > firefox opens a window behind the claws window and I have to shift > focus. I think there is a 'raise' argument you can use to change the window Z-order with Firefox, or at least there used to be. -- Brian Morrison From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Mar 21 12:58:33 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:58:33 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2634] New: Increase efficiency Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2634 Summary: Increase efficiency Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.7.4 Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: UI/Compose Window AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org ReportedBy: hreba at terra.com.br Selection of the destination address from the address book could be made more efficient. In thunderbird the last addressbook used opens automatically in a sidepane of the compose window. A doubleclick on an entry copies that into the "To" field. Claws needs 5 clicks instead: 1. Open address book list 2. Select address book 3. Select address 4. Copy to the "To" field 5. Close address book -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Mar 21 14:20:54 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:20:54 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2634] Increase efficiency In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120321132054.69113853B1@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2634 --- Comment #1 from Pierre Fortin 2012-03-21 14:20:53 --- Have you tried CM's one-click version? Start typing the first few characters in the To: field and hit TAB... click on the desired address and you're done. Avoids your steps 1,2,4 & 5... :) -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From codejodler at gmx.ch Wed Mar 21 15:47:24 2012 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:47:24 +0100 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20120320204215.29d166af@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f6921a7.8c12e00a.7bb7.0252@mx.google.com> <20120321024953.1bd7f4af@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320194839.5e28ebe4@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321035812.057941ce@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320200512.79dc647c@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321041843.11879eec@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320204215.29d166af@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120321154724.22890c32@mirrors.kernel.org> John, > This suggests that it is not in Firefox. Listen .... :) When you can produce the same 'error' by terminal command, with the only commandline argument available according to the manpage ('-new-tab') then it is really is NOT a claws thing. Try to countercheck this on your platform, please. Also, as Brian hinted, raising a window is a result of the application communicating with the window manager. I run an exotic one so maybe there's some incompatibility. However, switching to the new tab immediately basically seem to work for both of us - from inside firefox. I can very well imagine that firefox devel just did not foresee the same behavior with -new-tab called from an external application (like commandline), i.e., this call does not respect the preference setting. Maybe purpose. What would be missing, in that case, is a firefox commandline option 'raise hidden window and switch to new tab immediately'. It really does not need to be a GUI preference option, just commandline, that would be fine. But maybe there is a hidden switch in the chrome registry. These things use to exist. Anyway, i suggest asking in a firefox forum. To investigate the other possibility, a 'desktop setting' (i.e. a window manager setting), you may try the right-click context menu of the upper window border, or the respective button in some corner (if you have that at all, anyway), or dig into the window managers 'system settings' configuration module. And .... let us know your result :) i think it is interesting for claws list, since email and opening webpages are of course closely connected, and problem for you can become a problem for others soon. btw i guess you meant claws when you wrote 'sylpheed' ...? These are clearly different apps since some years, so it's not trivial. From codejodler at gmx.ch Wed Mar 21 15:50:47 2012 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:50:47 +0100 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20120321081610.0523f27f@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f6921a7.8c12e00a.7bb7.0252@mx.google.com> <20120321024953.1bd7f4af@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320194839.5e28ebe4@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321035812.057941ce@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320200512.79dc647c@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321041843.11879eec@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320204215.29d166af@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321004011.74563134.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20120321081610.0523f27f@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20120321155047.0d5797d8@mirrors.kernel.org> Brad, Ah, here we are :) and thanks you reminded me it's called the 'title bar'....:/ Yes, it's a workaround since just these settings could better be 'delivered' as a parameter by the respective firefox 'window' call. I suggest filing a feature request with firefox. From brad at fineby.me.uk Wed Mar 21 16:07:13 2012 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:07:13 +0000 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20120321155047.0d5797d8@mirrors.kernel.org> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f6921a7.8c12e00a.7bb7.0252@mx.google.com> <20120321024953.1bd7f4af@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320194839.5e28ebe4@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321035812.057941ce@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320200512.79dc647c@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321041843.11879eec@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320204215.29d166af@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321004011.74563134.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20120321081610.0523f27f@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120321155047.0d5797d8@mirrors.kernel.org> Message-ID: <20120321150713.0020efa8@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:50:47 +0100 Michael wrote: Hello Michael, > Ah, here we are :) and thanks you reminded me it's called the 'title > bar'....:/ At least some good has cone of this then. :-) > Yes, it's a workaround since just these settings could better be > 'delivered' as a parameter by the respective firefox 'window' call. I > suggest filing a feature request with firefox. It used to work that way. But like others have said, too much has changed on my system for me to be able to even hazard a guess about when the break occurred and what caused it. :-( -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Drums quite good, bass is too loud, and I can't hear the words Sound Of The Suburbs - Members -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From knathan at project54.com Wed Mar 21 21:35:56 2012 From: knathan at project54.com (Kevin Nathan) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:35:56 -0700 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20120321071126.6a291f90@pfortin.com> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f6921a7.8c12e00a.7bb7.0252@mx.google.com> <20120321024953.1bd7f4af@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320194839.5e28ebe4@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320202034.721a4fdd@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321061836.06139728@pfortin.com> <20120321125931.7bd2c375@it-laptop> <20120321071126.6a291f90@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20120321133556.19a7d61b@efreet.linux> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 07:11:26 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote: >> >>Tried: >> >>/home/pfortin/Downloads/firefox/firefox -new-window '%s' >> >>? > >Works like a champ. Actually, I'm going to leave it like that because >it avoids switching to my browser desktop. And now that firefox >supports dragging tabs between windows, I can do that for the odd time >I might want to keep a CM-opened tab around for a longer period. > My setting in External Programs is: firefox -remote 'openURL(%s,new-window)' and has been that way for some time, now. I use this because I like it to open a new window. So I tried changing the new-window to new-tab and minimizing my FF windows (I use WindowManager on openSUSE 11.4) and clicking on a link in Claws then opened the page in a tab of one of the minimized windows and raised that window, as well. -- Kevin Nathan (Arizona, USA) http://www.project54.com Open standards. Open source. Open minds. The command line is the front line. Linux 2.6.37.6-0.11-desktop 13:26pm up 35 days 22:45, 14 users, load average: 0.18, 0.37, 0.31 From codejodler at gmx.ch Wed Mar 21 22:47:17 2012 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:47:17 +0100 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20120321133556.19a7d61b@efreet.linux> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f6921a7.8c12e00a.7bb7.0252@mx.google.com> <20120321024953.1bd7f4af@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320194839.5e28ebe4@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320202034.721a4fdd@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321061836.06139728@pfortin.com> <20120321125931.7bd2c375@it-laptop> <20120321071126.6a291f90@pfortin.com> <20120321133556.19a7d61b@efreet.linux> Message-ID: <20120321224717.430ce5dc@mirrors.kernel.org> Kevin, > My setting in External Programs is: > > firefox -remote 'openURL(%s,new-window)' That's an interesting option. However, i couldn't get that option to work in Debian iceweasel 10 and it is not documented in the manpage either. Maybe it was not compiled in, or even dropped completely in that version ? According to http://www-archive.mozilla.org/unix/remote.html there is also openURL(URL,new-tab) and one could investigate if that makes a difference. However, i would think the both are just the same as the plain -new-tab and -new-window option. Would you be able to clarify if just doing a firefox -new-window instead (in claws) would achieve the same result for you ? So if it basically works for you, then chances are the original problem was caused by insufficient compatibility between ff and the window manager. It would be interesting to know which window manager your openSUSE uses, i.e., it's upstream name. From knathan at project54.com Thu Mar 22 15:09:39 2012 From: knathan at project54.com (Kevin Nathan) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 07:09:39 -0700 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20120321224717.430ce5dc@mirrors.kernel.org> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f6921a7.8c12e00a.7bb7.0252@mx.google.com> <20120321024953.1bd7f4af@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320194839.5e28ebe4@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320202034.721a4fdd@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321061836.06139728@pfortin.com> <20120321125931.7bd2c375@it-laptop> <20120321071126.6a291f90@pfortin.com> <20120321133556.19a7d61b@efreet.linux> <20120321224717.430ce5dc@mirrors.kernel.org> Message-ID: <20120322070939.3e872954@efreet.linux> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:47:17 +0100 Michael wrote: >Kevin, > >> My setting in External Programs is: >> >> firefox -remote 'openURL(%s,new-window)' > >That's an interesting option. However, i couldn't get that option to >work in Debian iceweasel 10 and it is not documented in the manpage >either. Maybe it was not compiled in, or even dropped completely in >that version ? > I think the -remote is the default because they only list -no-remote. >According to http://www-archive.mozilla.org/unix/remote.html there is >also openURL(URL,new-tab) and one could investigate if that makes a >difference. I did that in mine (I thought I mentioned it) and they both (new-tab or new-window) raise the FF window and go to the tab. Changing it to firefox -new-window '%s' and firefox -new-tab '%s' both work as before (raise FF window and switch to tab). >However, i would think the both are just the same as the >plain -new-tab and -new-window option. Would you be able to clarify if >just doing a firefox -new-window instead (in claws) would achieve the >same result for you ? > (See above comment) I remember have to use the openURL call a *long* time ago when the quotes didn't cut it, and I just never changed it. :-) >So if it basically works for you, then chances are the original >problem was caused by insufficient compatibility between ff and the >window manager. It would be interesting to know which window manager >your openSUSE uses, i.e., it's upstream name. I use WindowMaker (http://windowmaker.org/). I haven't tried it in a different manager in a while, although I used to use icewm and KDE with these same settings and no problems. -- Kevin Nathan (Arizona, USA) http://www.project54.com Open standards. Open source. Open minds. The command line is the front line. Linux 2.6.37.6-0.11-desktop 06:56am up 36 days 16:14, 14 users, load average: 0.06, 0.13, 0.29 From codejodler at gmx.ch Fri Mar 23 15:35:24 2012 From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 15:35:24 +0100 Subject: [Users] Opening link in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20120322070939.3e872954@efreet.linux> References: <20120111001702.407e132a@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320171623.636e9020@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f6921a7.8c12e00a.7bb7.0252@mx.google.com> <20120321024953.1bd7f4af@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120320194839.5e28ebe4@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120320202034.721a4fdd@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120321061836.06139728@pfortin.com> <20120321125931.7bd2c375@it-laptop> <20120321071126.6a291f90@pfortin.com> <20120321133556.19a7d61b@efreet.linux> <20120321224717.430ce5dc@mirrors.kernel.org> <20120322070939.3e872954@efreet.linux> Message-ID: <20120323153524.1e0d9e87@mirrors.kernel.org> Here is a final analysis. Thanks to Kevin who provided the comparison info. It works for someone (A) with ff 10.0.2 and WindowMaker, but not for someone else (B) with ff 10.0.3 and WindowMaker. But in the latter system, the desired behavior exists with gedit, which opens a new tab in the foreground, and raises the minimized window, when another document is opened from commandline or filemanager. So far, this clearly hints for a bug in firefox. Another difference in the systems is that (A) have Xorg 1.9.3, and (B) have version 1.11.4. Hoever, since in (B) gedit works and firefox not, it should be irrelevant. Between 2005 and 2007, there was quite some discussion about tabs and window behavior. Like https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=482354#c16 and as a sidenote, it appears that firefox uses gtk calls to achieve the window behavior. There even was a complicated wmctrl hack to force the desired behavior https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=388664#c23 (link to a shell script which maybe could be used as template) - however, this is all way old. But chances are a bug got (re-)introduced meanwhile. Anyway, it still holds that as long as you can trigger the inconsistent behavior (inconsistent with the ff preferences setting) with a commandline 'firefox -new-tab' then it clearly is not a claws bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Mar 23 16:48:03 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 16:48:03 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2635] New: Claws Mail process received signal 11 Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2635 Summary: Claws Mail process received signal 11 Product: Claws Mail Version: 3.7.10 Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Other AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org ReportedBy: DLmailnet at earthlink.net I was viewing an email in the messageview window and clicked on the Trash button followed fairly quickly by the ESC key (to close the window after trashing the message). The main Claws window disappeared and was replaced by a "Claws Mail has crashed" window. The contents of that window are in the attached file. OS is OpenSuSe 12.1 with KDE. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Mar 23 16:49:39 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 16:49:39 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2635] Claws Mail process received signal 11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120323154939.C47F7855AA@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2635 --- Comment #1 from DL 2012-03-23 16:49:39 --- Created an attachment (id=1093) --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1093) Contents of the "Claws Mail has crashed" window. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Mar 23 19:46:14 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 19:46:14 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2635] Claws Mail process received signal 11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120323184614.75DDF855AA@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2635 Paul changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #2 from Paul 2012-03-23 19:46:13 --- closing this for 2 reasons: 1. Because 3.7.10 is not the latest release (it says on the new bug page 'Before reporting a bug, please verify that the bug exists in the latest release.') 2. the attachment is not useful because there are no debugging symbols, it's from stripped binaries. For point 2: http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Debugging_Claws -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Mar 24 16:29:03 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 16:29:03 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2636] New: Deleting [dup?] account created junk account Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2636 Summary: Deleting [dup?] account created junk account Product: Claws Mail Version: CVS Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: UI AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org ReportedBy: pf at pfortin.com Created an attachment (id=1094) --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1094) Accounts panel after duplicate deleted. Manually verified some gmail accounts and found one with old messages which had never been collected. Thinking I'd forgotten to create an account in CM, I copied an existing gmail account and made the appropriate changes. Then, I did some testing to ensure I could use multiple clients (incl. new Android phone) on gmail accounts -- discovered the need to use "recent:userid at gmail.com" format to allow multiple clients... Went back into CM accounts and made change. Then I noticed I'd just created a duplicate account, so I deleted the older one. >From the entrails, it appears that when a duplicate account is created (fresh, without realizing one already exists) in CM, two instances of the account ([Account: N] -- same N) are entered into accountrc. When one of these accounts is deleted (older one in my case), CM created a trash account. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Mar 24 16:30:44 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 16:30:44 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2636] Deleting [dup?] account created junk account In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120324153044.55B47853BB@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2636 --- Comment #1 from Pierre Fortin 2012-03-24 16:30:44 --- Created an attachment (id=1095) --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1095) Deleted duplicate account and this one appeared. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Mar 24 16:34:16 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 16:34:16 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2636] Deleting [dup?] account created junk account In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120324153416.12092853BB@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2636 --- Comment #2 from Paul 2012-03-24 16:34:15 --- What sort of account, imap or pop? How did you copy this account? -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Mar 24 16:35:59 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 16:35:59 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2636] Deleting [dup?] account created junk account In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120324153559.2FE8F853BB@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2636 --- Comment #3 from Pierre Fortin 2012-03-24 16:35:58 --- Created an attachment (id=1096) --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1096) accountrc after account deletion & before shutting down CM -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Mar 24 16:36:58 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 16:36:58 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2636] Deleting [dup?] account created junk account In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120324153659.7EDF6853BB@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2636 --- Comment #4 from Pierre Fortin 2012-03-24 16:36:58 --- Created an attachment (id=1097) --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1097) accountrc after CM shut down -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Mar 24 18:24:14 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 18:24:14 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2636] Deleting [dup?] account created junk account In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120324172414.66C84853BB@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2636 --- Comment #5 from Pierre Fortin 2012-03-24 18:24:13 --- Almost missed your questions... I was still entering attachments... :) > What sort of account, imap or pop? All my accounts are pop >How did you copy this account? Highlighted account, clicked Copy. Changed account name (without realizing the same name already existed (off-screen)) and adjusted userid/passwd. Added default inbox, and saved. A few minutes later, I noticed the duplicate at or near bottom of accounts -- I can't recall if the deleted account was last or 2nd-last; but the junk account was now last. When I created the new, accidentally duplicate account, did CM write out accountrc at that point? That would explain why there were 2 account #20 in accountrc -- thinking CM only writes some (all?) .claws-mail files on close? -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From pf at pfortin.com Sat Mar 24 18:28:56 2012 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 13:28:56 -0400 Subject: [Users] GMail: Surely, I'm not the only one who didn't know this... :) Message-ID: <20120324132856.444f3ff2@pfortin.com> Setting up email on my new Android phone and was about to send a bug report to GMail when I found the following: >How do I download mail to multiple POP clients? > >To access your messages with multiple POP clients, use recent mode in >every client to make sure that all messages are made available, rather >than only to the first client to access new mail. Recent mode fetches >the last 30 days of mail, regardless of whether it's been sent to >another POP client already. > >To enable Recent mode, replace 'username at gmail.com' in the Username >field of your POP client settings with 'recent:username at gmail.com' and >ensure that the Leave messages on server option in your POP client is >enabled. All other pop servers I've used can handle multiple clients... Hope this helps someone... although I still haven't seen clear evidence this actually works... still testing. Pierre From berndth at gmx.de Sun Mar 25 14:24:31 2012 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:24:31 +0200 Subject: [Users] plug-in feature request In-Reply-To: <20120320133656.105fb37f@gp> References: <20120319222225.6814f62b@gp> <20120320000457.1b0ae06e@wodan> <20120320133656.105fb37f@gp> Message-ID: <20120325142431.0a575a6e@wodan> On Di, 20.03.2012 13:36, Uwe wrote: >Yes, it is working well, but I'm still on Gnome2. I do not use google >for my contacts and calendar, because I like to have my privacy on my >own machine. Just installed locally my own funambol server and syncing >with the evolution address book and calendar. >And your plug-in is at time the only possibility to use the open -sync >stuff, with claws mail. > >On gnome3 could work as well, if the evolution stuff get installed, but >I didn't test it so far. I'm not sure. It might work, but on GNOME3 one would rather access Gnome Contacts (and possibly Gnome Online Accounts) - so it might be different. It would be possible to rename the plugin from "gnome" to "gnome2" and include it. However, I am not sure if Paul is so keen on adding unmaintained plugins.. Holger From johnxj at comcast.net Mon Mar 26 05:44:43 2012 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 20:44:43 -0700 Subject: [Users] Color for unread messages? Message-ID: <20120325204443.4427c2d9@mailhost.pdx.edu> Claws Mail 3.8.0 on Fedora 16, x86_64, Xfce desktop. I found how to set unread messages in the Inbox to bold, but can't find any place to make them appear in a different color. Did I fail to find the setting, or is it not possible? From nepal.roade at googlemail.com Mon Mar 26 07:30:53 2012 From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com (nepal) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 06:30:53 +0100 Subject: [Users] address book Message-ID: <20120326063053.3982318e@pineal-965P-DS3> on starting my pc this morning, and loading claws mail, I got an error message saying something about a problem with the address book which I missed the detail of. on running claws I have no address book contents at all. any suggestions to fix/resolve this please? thanks n. From ricardo at mones.org Mon Mar 26 11:09:21 2012 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 11:09:21 +0200 Subject: [Users] Color for unread messages? In-Reply-To: <20120325204443.4427c2d9@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120325204443.4427c2d9@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120326090921.GN15789@trasgu> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 08:44:43PM -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote: > Claws Mail 3.8.0 on Fedora 16, x86_64, Xfce desktop. > > I found how to set unread messages in the Inbox to bold, but can't find > any place to make them appear in a different color. Did I fail to find > the setting, or is it not possible? IIRC, tt's possible with a filtering or processing rule which sets the color for unread messages. regards, -- Ricardo Mones ~ 00:45 < hammar> cool.. have you used rssyl? 00:46 <@Ticho> um, yes Seen on #sylpheed -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From rennabh at gmail.com Mon Mar 26 19:14:04 2012 From: rennabh at gmail.com (Renato) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:14:04 +0200 Subject: [Users] configuring IMAP for dovecot server Message-ID: <20120326191404.36526d4b@gmail.com> Hello, I'm trying to set up a central server to download all my mail via pop, and then run on the same machine a dovecot imap server, to which I'd like to connect from other places (laptop, android phone etc.). I'm very new to all this so please bare with me, if I did stupid errors. What I managed to do so far is setup a simple imap dovecot server, with no SSL certification for now, only plaintext, pointing to a maildir directory on the server. I have managed to setup fetchmail on my laptop to connect, over the lan, to the dovecot server and get the mail; however I'm not able to do the same with claws-mail. These are some screenshots of the account settings: http://imgur.com/a/iFGLx When I try to check mail for that account, literally nothing happens. What am I doing wrong? Below are my .fetchmailrc and .procmailrc from my laptop (and the fetchmail command I've used) and my dovecot.conf (and the file users2 there cited) from my server. Any suggestions appreciated, renato .fetchmailrc: set daemon 300 poll 192.168.0.121 with proto IMAP user 'renato' is 'renato' here mda '/usr/bin/procmail -d %T' .procmailrc: MAILDIR=/home/renato/mail-prova/ DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/$LOGNAME/ LOGFILE=/var/log/procmail VERBOSE=on the fetchmail command I've succesfully used to get the mail: $ fetchmail --daemon 0 --auth password -v -f .fetchmailrc /etc/dovecot.conf: protocols = imap mail_location = /home/renato/mail/%u log_path = /var/log/dovecot mail_privileged_group = mail protocol pop3 { pop3_uidl_format = %v.%u } disable_plaintext_auth = no ssl = no passdb { driver = passwd-file args = /etc/dovecot/users2 } userdb { driver = passwd-file args = /etc/dovecot/users2 } /etc/dovecot/users2: renato:{PLAIN}pw:1000:100::/home/renato:/bin/bash From mir at miras.org Mon Mar 26 19:39:12 2012 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:39:12 +0200 Subject: [Users] configuring IMAP for dovecot server In-Reply-To: <20120326191404.36526d4b@gmail.com> References: <20120326191404.36526d4b@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20120326193912.39a32a97@sleipner.datanom.net> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:14:04 +0200 Renato wrote: > > /etc/dovecot.conf: I have the following added: namespace private { separator = . prefix = INBOX. inbox = yes } -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mir at miras.org Mon Mar 26 19:42:27 2012 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:42:27 +0200 Subject: [Users] configuring IMAP for dovecot server In-Reply-To: <20120326191404.36526d4b@gmail.com> References: <20120326191404.36526d4b@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20120326194227.73139482@sleipner.datanom.net> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:14:04 +0200 Renato wrote: > These are some screenshots of the account settings: > http://imgur.com/a/iFGLx > Remove new from IMAP server directory, eg. leave it empty. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rennabh at gmail.com Mon Mar 26 20:46:49 2012 From: rennabh at gmail.com (Renato) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:46:49 +0200 Subject: [Users] configuring IMAP for dovecot server In-Reply-To: <20120326194227.73139482@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20120326191404.36526d4b@gmail.com> <20120326194227.73139482@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20120326204649.7defe143@gmail.com> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:42:27 +0200 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:14:04 +0200 > Renato wrote: > > > These are some screenshots of the account settings: > > http://imgur.com/a/iFGLx > > > Remove new from IMAP server directory, eg. leave it empty. > ah, I put that in and forgot to take it out. However leaving it empty doesn't solve the problem. I also tried adding the namespace you suggested in the other mail in dovecot.conf, but it didn't help neither. renato From mir at miras.org Mon Mar 26 21:52:17 2012 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 21:52:17 +0200 Subject: [Users] configuring IMAP for dovecot server In-Reply-To: <20120326204649.7defe143@gmail.com> References: <20120326191404.36526d4b@gmail.com> <20120326194227.73139482@sleipner.datanom.net> <20120326204649.7defe143@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20120326215217.397fdb96@sleipner.datanom.net> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:46:49 +0200 Renato wrote: > > ah, I put that in and forgot to take it out. However leaving it empty > doesn't solve the problem. > > I also tried adding the namespace you suggested in the other mail in > dovecot.conf, but it didn't help neither. > If you do the following what do you get (replace USERNAME and PASSWORD with appropriate ones. Lines marked < means your input, Lines marked > means reply from dovecot. They are not to be part of the actual commands and reply)? $ telnet 192.168.0.121 143 Trying 192.168.0.121... Connected to 192.168.0.121. Escape character is '^]'. >* OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE STARTTLS AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=LOGIN AUTH=CRAM-MD5] Dovecot ready. ? OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE SORT SORT=DISPLAY THREAD=REFERENCES THREAD=REFS MULTIAPPEND UNSELECT IDLE CHILDREN NAMESPACE UIDPLUS LIST-EXTENDED I18NLEVEL=1 CONDSTORE QRESYNC ESEARCH ESORT SEARCHRES WITHIN CONTEXT=SEARCH LIST-STATUS] Logged in * LIST (\HasChildren) "." "INBOX" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Drafts" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Trash" * LIST (\HasChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2005.03-Mar" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2005.04-Apr" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2005.05-May" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2005.06-Jun" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2005.07-Jul" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2005.08-Aug" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2005.09-Sep" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2005.10-Oct" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2005.11-Nov" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2006.04-Apr" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2006.05-May" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2006.06-Jun" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2006.07-Jul" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2006.08-Aug" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2006.09-Sep" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2006.10-Oct" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2006.11-Nov" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2006.12-Dec" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2007.02-Feb" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2007.05-May" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2007.03-Mar" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2007.07-Jul" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2007.08-Aug" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2007.10-Oct" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2007.12-Dec" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2007.09-Sep" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2007.11-Nov" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2009.07-Jul" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2009.08-Aug" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2009.05-May" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2009.06-Jun" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2009.01-Jan" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2009.04-Apr" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2009.03-Mar" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2010.04-Apr" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2010.03-Mar" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2010.11-Nov" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2010.06-Jun" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2008.02-Feb" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2008.04-Apr" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2008.03-Mar" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2008.06-Jun" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Sent.2008.09-Sep" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Spam" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Queue" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.mrtg" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.virus" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Junk" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Archive" ? OK List completed. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From littlergirl at gmail.com Mon Mar 26 22:23:16 2012 From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:23:16 -0400 Subject: [Users] Color for unread messages? In-Reply-To: <20120325204443.4427c2d9@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120325204443.4427c2d9@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <4f70d035.c83ae00a.0c69.5ca1@mx.google.com> Hey there, John Jason Jordan wrote: > Claws Mail 3.8.0 on Fedora 16, x86_64, Xfce desktop. > > I found how to set unread messages in the Inbox to bold, but can't > find any place to make them appear in a different color. Did I fail > to find the setting, or is it not possible? 1) Left-click the Configuration menu. 2) Choose Pre-processing... by left-clicking it. 3) Type Unread messages into the Name box. 4) Left-click the Define... button to the right of the Condition box. 5) Left-click the Match criteria selector. 6) Choose Flags by left-clicking it. 7) The Flag selectors should automatically say that Unread is set. If they don't, left-click them to choose those values. 8) Left-click the Add button. 9) Left-click the OK button. 10) Left-click the Define... button to the right of the Action box. 11) Left-click the Action selector (it should say Move by default). 12) Choose Color label by left-clicking it. 13) Left-click the Color selector (it should say None by default). 14) Choose one of the colors by left-clicking it. 15) Left-click the Add button. 16) Left-click the OK button. 17) Use the Up button if you want to move the rule up above another rule. 18) Click the OK button. Enjoy your colorful unread messages! (: -- Little Girl There is no spoon. From mir at miras.org Mon Mar 26 23:03:53 2012 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 23:03:53 +0200 Subject: [Users] Color for unread messages? In-Reply-To: <4f70d035.c83ae00a.0c69.5ca1@mx.google.com> References: <20120325204443.4427c2d9@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f70d035.c83ae00a.0c69.5ca1@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <20120326230353.39985643@sleipner.datanom.net> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:23:16 -0400 Little Girl wrote: > > Enjoy your colorful unread messages! (: > Very pedagogic instructions. I have seen many good instructions from your hands, I surely hope you add them to the FAQ? (http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Main_Page) -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rennabh at gmail.com Mon Mar 26 23:04:25 2012 From: rennabh at gmail.com (Renato) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 23:04:25 +0200 Subject: [Users] configuring IMAP for dovecot server In-Reply-To: <20120326215217.397fdb96@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20120326191404.36526d4b@gmail.com> <20120326194227.73139482@sleipner.datanom.net> <20120326204649.7defe143@gmail.com> <20120326215217.397fdb96@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20120326230425.50e711c1@gmail.com> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 21:52:17 +0200 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:46:49 +0200 > Renato wrote: > > > > > ah, I put that in and forgot to take it out. However leaving it > > empty doesn't solve the problem. > > > > I also tried adding the namespace you suggested in the other mail in > > dovecot.conf, but it didn't help neither. > > > If you do the following what do you get this: $ telnet 192.168.0.121 143 Trying 192.168.0.121... Connected to 192.168.0.121. Escape character is '^]'. * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE IDLE AUTH=PLAIN] Dovecot ready. ? login renato pw ? OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE IDLE SORT SORT=DISPLAY THREAD=REFERENCES THREAD=REFS MULTIAPPEND UNSELECT CHILDREN NAMESPACE UIDPLUS LIST-EXTENDED I18NLEVEL=1 CONDSTORE QRESYNC ESEARCH ESORT SEARCHRES WITHIN CONTEXT=SEARCH LIST-STATUS SPECIAL-USE] Logged in ? list "" * * LIST (\HasChildren) "." "INBOX" ? OK List completed. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Mar 27 00:50:34 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:50:34 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2627] Filtering does not work on NNTP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120326225034.EF09485432@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2627 --- Comment #6 from Andrej Kacian 2012-03-27 00:50:33 --- Hi, I too agree that NNTP accounts should be subject to filtering. Meanwhile, I'm using a somewhat dirty workaround - in folderlist.xml file, I change folder type from "normal" to "inbox" for each newsgroup folder I want filtering to be active in. Then, to implement a kill list, I have one rule which looks like: from matchcase "abc at def.ghi" | from matchcase "zxc at asd.qwe" | from matchcase ... Rule action is "mark_as_read hide". Do not delete the unwanted messages, or they will be redownloaded later. :) -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From johnxj at comcast.net Tue Mar 27 01:28:02 2012 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:28:02 -0700 Subject: [Users] Color for unread messages? In-Reply-To: <4f70d035.c83ae00a.0c69.5ca1@mx.google.com> References: <20120325204443.4427c2d9@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f70d035.c83ae00a.0c69.5ca1@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <20120326162802.30cf3e1f@mailhost.pdx.edu> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:23:16 -0400 Little Girl dijo: >Hey there, > >John Jason Jordan wrote: > >> Claws Mail 3.8.0 on Fedora 16, x86_64, Xfce desktop. >> >> I found how to set unread messages in the Inbox to bold, but can't >> find any place to make them appear in a different color. Did I fail >> to find the setting, or is it not possible? > > 1) Left-click the Configuration menu. > 2) Choose Pre-processing... by left-clicking it. > 3) Type Unread messages into the Name box. > 4) Left-click the Define... button to the right of the Condition box. > 5) Left-click the Match criteria selector. > 6) Choose Flags by left-clicking it. > 7) The Flag selectors should automatically say that Unread is set. If > they don't, left-click them to choose those values. 8) Left-click the > Add button. 9) Left-click the OK button. >10) Left-click the Define... button to the right of the Action box. >11) Left-click the Action selector (it should say Move by default). >12) Choose Color label by left-clicking it. >13) Left-click the Color selector (it should say None by default). >14) Choose one of the colors by left-clicking it. >15) Left-click the Add button. >16) Left-click the OK button. >17) Use the Up button if you want to move the rule up above another >rule. 18) Click the OK button. > >Enjoy your colorful unread messages! (: Great! Except for one small problem: After reading a message it stays colored. :( I suppose I can go back through the instructions and look for a "read" option and then apply black to it. I'll try that later - late for class at the moment. From mir at miras.org Tue Mar 27 01:52:10 2012 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 01:52:10 +0200 Subject: [Users] Color for unread messages? In-Reply-To: <20120326162802.30cf3e1f@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120325204443.4427c2d9@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f70d035.c83ae00a.0c69.5ca1@mx.google.com> <20120326162802.30cf3e1f@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120327015210.3fab8ae8@sleipner.datanom.net> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:28:02 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:23:16 -0400 > Little Girl dijo: > > >Hey there, > > > >John Jason Jordan wrote: > > > >> Claws Mail 3.8.0 on Fedora 16, x86_64, Xfce desktop. > >> > >> I found how to set unread messages in the Inbox to bold, but can't > >> find any place to make them appear in a different color. Did I fail > >> to find the setting, or is it not possible? > > > > 1) Left-click the Configuration menu. > > 2) Choose Pre-processing... by left-clicking it. > > 3) Type Unread messages into the Name box. > > 4) Left-click the Define... button to the right of the Condition box. > > 5) Left-click the Match criteria selector. > > 6) Choose Flags by left-clicking it. > > 7) The Flag selectors should automatically say that Unread is set. If > > they don't, left-click them to choose those values. 8) Left-click the > > Add button. 9) Left-click the OK button. > >10) Left-click the Define... button to the right of the Action box. > >11) Left-click the Action selector (it should say Move by default). > >12) Choose Color label by left-clicking it. > >13) Left-click the Color selector (it should say None by default). > >14) Choose one of the colors by left-clicking it. > >15) Left-click the Add button. > >16) Left-click the OK button. > >17) Use the Up button if you want to move the rule up above another > >rule. 18) Click the OK button. > > > >Enjoy your colorful unread messages! (: > > Great! > > Except for one small problem: After reading a message it stays > colored. :( > Use a post processing rule Instead of: 7) The Flag selectors should automatically say that Unread is set. use 7) Set the Flag selectors to say that Unread is not-set. Instead of: 14) Choose one of the colors by left-clicking it. use 14) Choose none for the color. Then every time you leave a folder every message mark read will be colored black. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From johnxj at comcast.net Tue Mar 27 02:31:57 2012 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 17:31:57 -0700 Subject: [Users] Color for unread messages? In-Reply-To: <20120327015210.3fab8ae8@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20120325204443.4427c2d9@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f70d035.c83ae00a.0c69.5ca1@mx.google.com> <20120326162802.30cf3e1f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120327015210.3fab8ae8@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20120326173157.2435976d@mailhost.pdx.edu> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 01:52:10 +0200 Michael Rasmussen dijo: >On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:28:02 -0700 >John Jason Jordan wrote: > >> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:23:16 -0400 >> Little Girl dijo: >> >> >Hey there, >> > >> >John Jason Jordan wrote: >> > >> >> Claws Mail 3.8.0 on Fedora 16, x86_64, Xfce desktop. >> >> >> >> I found how to set unread messages in the Inbox to bold, but can't >> >> find any place to make them appear in a different color. Did I >> >> fail to find the setting, or is it not possible? >> > >> > 1) Left-click the Configuration menu. >> > 2) Choose Pre-processing... by left-clicking it. >> > 3) Type Unread messages into the Name box. >> > 4) Left-click the Define... button to the right of the Condition >> > box. 5) Left-click the Match criteria selector. >> > 6) Choose Flags by left-clicking it. >> > 7) The Flag selectors should automatically say that Unread is set. >> > If they don't, left-click them to choose those values. 8) >> > Left-click the Add button. 9) Left-click the OK button. >> >10) Left-click the Define... button to the right of the Action box. >> >11) Left-click the Action selector (it should say Move by default). >> >12) Choose Color label by left-clicking it. >> >13) Left-click the Color selector (it should say None by default). >> >14) Choose one of the colors by left-clicking it. >> >15) Left-click the Add button. >> >16) Left-click the OK button. >> >17) Use the Up button if you want to move the rule up above another >> >rule. 18) Click the OK button. >> > >> >Enjoy your colorful unread messages! (: >> >> Great! >> >> Except for one small problem: After reading a message it stays >> colored. :( >> >Use a post processing rule >Instead of: >7) The Flag selectors should automatically say that Unread is set. >use >7) Set the Flag selectors to say that Unread is not-set. >Instead of: >14) Choose one of the colors by left-clicking it. >use >14) Choose none for the color. > >Then every time you leave a folder every message mark read will be >colored black. It works, but I have to leave the Inbox and come back to it in order to see the color change back to black (none). Can it be set to change the color as soon as I click on an unread message? From slitt at troubleshooters.com Tue Mar 27 06:43:00 2012 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:43:00 -0400 Subject: [Users] Color for unread messages? In-Reply-To: <20120326162802.30cf3e1f@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120325204443.4427c2d9@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f70d035.c83ae00a.0c69.5ca1@mx.google.com> <20120326162802.30cf3e1f@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120327004300.432fcdde@mydesk> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:28:02 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:23:16 -0400 > Little Girl dijo: > > >Hey there, > > > >John Jason Jordan wrote: > > > >> Claws Mail 3.8.0 on Fedora 16, x86_64, Xfce desktop. > >> > >> I found how to set unread messages in the Inbox to bold, but can't > >> find any place to make them appear in a different color. Did I fail > >> to find the setting, or is it not possible? > > > > 1) Left-click the Configuration menu. > > 2) Choose Pre-processing... by left-clicking it. > > 3) Type Unread messages into the Name box. > > 4) Left-click the Define... button to the right of the Condition > > box. 5) Left-click the Match criteria selector. > > 6) Choose Flags by left-clicking it. > > 7) The Flag selectors should automatically say that Unread is set. > > If they don't, left-click them to choose those values. 8) > > Left-click the Add button. 9) Left-click the OK button. > >10) Left-click the Define... button to the right of the Action box. > >11) Left-click the Action selector (it should say Move by default). > >12) Choose Color label by left-clicking it. > >13) Left-click the Color selector (it should say None by default). > >14) Choose one of the colors by left-clicking it. > >15) Left-click the Add button. > >16) Left-click the OK button. > >17) Use the Up button if you want to move the rule up above another > >rule. 18) Click the OK button. > > > >Enjoy your colorful unread messages! (: > > Great! > > Except for one small problem: After reading a message it stays > colored. :( I had that same problem. Plus I put a different color for "New" and that never showed up. Even when I deleted these, the color remained. > > I suppose I can go back through the instructions and look for a "read" > option and then apply black to it. I'll try that later - late for > class at the moment. There's no flag for "Read", and there's no color label "Black". I may end up deleting all the config I just put in. By the way, I'm using Claws 3.7.8 on Ubuntu Linux 11.04. SteveT > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users From johnxj at comcast.net Tue Mar 27 07:07:59 2012 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 22:07:59 -0700 Subject: [Users] Color for unread messages? In-Reply-To: <20120327004300.432fcdde@mydesk> References: <20120325204443.4427c2d9@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f70d035.c83ae00a.0c69.5ca1@mx.google.com> <20120326162802.30cf3e1f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120327004300.432fcdde@mydesk> Message-ID: <20120326220759.4637d98b@mailhost.pdx.edu> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:43:00 -0400 Steve Litt dijo: >On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:28:02 -0700 >John Jason Jordan wrote: > >> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:23:16 -0400 >> Little Girl dijo: >> >> >Hey there, >> > >> >John Jason Jordan wrote: >> > >> >> Claws Mail 3.8.0 on Fedora 16, x86_64, Xfce desktop. >> >> >> >> I found how to set unread messages in the Inbox to bold, but can't >> >> find any place to make them appear in a different color. Did I >> >> fail to find the setting, or is it not possible? >> > >> > 1) Left-click the Configuration menu. >> > 2) Choose Pre-processing... by left-clicking it. >> > 3) Type Unread messages into the Name box. >> > 4) Left-click the Define... button to the right of the Condition >> > box. 5) Left-click the Match criteria selector. >> > 6) Choose Flags by left-clicking it. >> > 7) The Flag selectors should automatically say that Unread is set. >> > If they don't, left-click them to choose those values. 8) >> > Left-click the Add button. 9) Left-click the OK button. >> >10) Left-click the Define... button to the right of the Action box. >> >11) Left-click the Action selector (it should say Move by default). >> >12) Choose Color label by left-clicking it. >> >13) Left-click the Color selector (it should say None by default). >> >14) Choose one of the colors by left-clicking it. >> >15) Left-click the Add button. >> >16) Left-click the OK button. >> >17) Use the Up button if you want to move the rule up above another >> >rule. 18) Click the OK button. >> > >> >Enjoy your colorful unread messages! (: >> >> Great! >> >> Except for one small problem: After reading a message it stays >> colored. :( > >I had that same problem. Plus I put a different color for "New" and >that never showed up. Even when I deleted these, the color remained. > >> >> I suppose I can go back through the instructions and look for a >> "read" option and then apply black to it. I'll try that later - late >> for class at the moment. > >There's no flag for "Read", and there's no color label "Black". I may >end up deleting all the config I just put in. By the way, I'm using >Claws 3.7.8 on Ubuntu Linux 11.04. I just gave up and went back to using bold. Michael's suggestion worked but you have to leave the folder and come back before the color changes on the read messages. Some day the color options will be in the main preferences by the fonts. When that happens I'll try again. The current possibilities are very powerful, but also very complicated for a simply guy like me to use. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Tue Mar 27 07:59:00 2012 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 06:59:00 +0100 Subject: [Users] Color for unread messages? In-Reply-To: <20120327004300.432fcdde@mydesk> References: <20120325204443.4427c2d9@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f70d035.c83ae00a.0c69.5ca1@mx.google.com> <20120326162802.30cf3e1f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120327004300.432fcdde@mydesk> Message-ID: <20120327065900.4f042fce@thewildbeast> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:43:00 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > there's no color label "Black" Label text and colours are user-configurable. with regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From joydeep at infoservices.in Tue Mar 27 08:44:23 2012 From: joydeep at infoservices.in (J. Bakshi ( জয়দীপ বকসী )) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:14:23 +0530 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate Message-ID: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> Dear list, I have introduces CM (3.8.0) in our organization. The initial response was very good, specially the quick search abilities of CM draws everyone's attentions. But soon users ( who are thunderbird users) have faced the well known problem of CM, the frozen and grayed out issue. Even some users complaint the CM was frozen when they were in middle of the writing urgent emails. The same thing happens also during mail search. Is there any way to fix this very issue ? BTW: I have faced the same problem during my writing of this very small email, because CM was downloading emails !!! From moh at gmx.org Tue Mar 27 11:41:44 2012 From: moh at gmx.org (Steffen Klemer) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:41:44 +0200 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> Message-ID: <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> Am Tue, 27.03.2012 um 12:14 schrieb "J. Bakshi" : > BTW: I have faced the same problem during my writing of this very > small email, because CM was downloading emails !!! I think this goes away when you select Configuration->Preferences->Receiving->Show Receive Dialogue->"Never" /Steffen -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments From subscript at free.fr Tue Mar 27 11:58:09 2012 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:58:09 +0200 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> Message-ID: <20120327115809.4e941c46@monolith> Hello Steffen, On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:41:44 +0200 Steffen Klemer wrote: > Am Tue, 27.03.2012 um 12:14 schrieb "J. Bakshi" > : > > > BTW: I have faced the same problem during my writing of this very > > small email, because CM was downloading emails !!! > > I think this goes away when you select > Configuration->Preferences->Receiving->Show Receive Dialogue->"Never" Yes and no. Preventing dialogs helps a bit, this doesn't prevent the application from slowing down user interaction when performing network tasks. Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From joydeep at infoservices.in Tue Mar 27 12:10:10 2012 From: joydeep at infoservices.in (J. Bakshi ( জয়দীপ বকসী )) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:40:10 +0530 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120327115809.4e941c46@monolith> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> <20120327115809.4e941c46@monolith> Message-ID: <20120327154010.3b5cbf5d@shiva.selfip.org> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:58:09 +0200 wwp wrote: > Hello Steffen, > > > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:41:44 +0200 Steffen Klemer wrote: > > > Am Tue, 27.03.2012 um 12:14 schrieb "J. Bakshi" > > : > > > > > BTW: I have faced the same problem during my writing of this very > > > small email, because CM was downloading emails !!! > > > > I think this goes away when you select > > Configuration->Preferences->Receiving->Show Receive Dialogue->"Never" > > Yes and no. Preventing dialogs helps a bit, this doesn't prevent the > application from slowing down user interaction when performing network > tasks. > Exactly. I already have Show Receive Dialogue->"Never" but still I'm facing this problem :-( From laszlo.kertesz at gmail.com Tue Mar 27 12:43:05 2012 From: laszlo.kertesz at gmail.com (Kertesz Laszlo) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:43:05 +0300 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> Message-ID: <20120327134305.7a3910a5@gmail.com> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:41:44 +0200 Steffen Klemer wrote: > I think this goes away when you select > Configuration->Preferences->Receiving->Show Receive Dialogue->"Never" > > > /Steffen > No this does not goes away. The OP was talking about the fact that Claws Mail UI has certain options greyed out while getting mail (scanning folders) AND, bigger nuisance, prevents the user from accessing mails until the scanning (and fetching of messages) is completed. I have a google account with lots of folders and i have to wait for CM to scan all of them and get new mails before i can see a message (or open a folder for that matter) i clicked on. Also if i have intermittent network connection (weak wifi signal, disconnecting/reconnecting) and CM is in the middle of getting mail, it outright freezes in the scanning phase for good and i have to kill it because even the exit option is greyed out and the right-click exit option does not work. This is NOT google mail related, this is reletaed to the fact that CM has a sort of single threaded approach to mail receiving/fetching/scanning. So, it would be good if the scanning phase took place in background for good, and NOT interfere with the users actions AT ALL . Also, the (temporary) loss of network connection should NOT freeze the scanning process. -- O zi buna, Kertesz Laszlo From joydeep at infoservices.in Tue Mar 27 12:55:02 2012 From: joydeep at infoservices.in (J. Bakshi ( জয়দীপ বকসী )) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:25:02 +0530 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120327134305.7a3910a5@gmail.com> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> <20120327134305.7a3910a5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20120327162502.37aebb86@shiva.selfip.org> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:43:05 +0300 Kertesz Laszlo wrote: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:41:44 +0200 > Steffen Klemer wrote: > > > I think this goes away when you select > > Configuration->Preferences->Receiving->Show Receive Dialogue->"Never" > > > > > > /Steffen > > > > No this does not goes away. The OP was talking about the fact that Claws Mail UI has certain options greyed out while getting mail (scanning folders) AND, bigger nuisance, prevents the user from accessing mails until the scanning (and fetching of messages) is completed. > > I have a google account with lots of folders and i have to wait for CM to scan all of them and get new mails before i can see a message (or open a folder for that matter) i clicked on. > Also if i have intermittent network connection (weak wifi signal, disconnecting/reconnecting) and CM is in the middle of getting mail, it outright freezes in the scanning phase for good and i have to kill it because even the exit option is greyed out and the right-click exit option does not work. > This is NOT google mail related, this is reletaed to the fact that CM has a sort of single threaded approach to mail receiving/fetching/scanning. > > So, it would be good if the scanning phase took place in background for good, and NOT interfere with the users actions AT ALL . Also, the (temporary) loss of network connection should NOT freeze the scanning process. > The problems you have mentioned are *all* experienced here too. From jerry at seibercom.net Tue Mar 27 13:30:10 2012 From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:30:10 -0400 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120327162502.37aebb86@shiva.selfip.org> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> <20120327134305.7a3910a5@gmail.com> <20120327162502.37aebb86@shiva.selfip.org> Message-ID: <20120327073010.69d1586c@scorpio> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:25:02 +0530 "J. Bakshi" articulated: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:43:05 +0300 > Kertesz Laszlo wrote: > > > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:41:44 +0200 > > Steffen Klemer wrote: > > > > > I think this goes away when you select > > > Configuration->Preferences->Receiving->Show Receive > > > Dialogue->"Never" > > > > No this does not goes away. The OP was talking about the fact that > > Claws Mail UI has certain options greyed out while getting mail > > (scanning folders) AND, bigger nuisance, prevents the user from > > accessing mails until the scanning (and fetching of messages) is > > completed. > > > > I have a google account with lots of folders and i have to wait for > > CM to scan all of them and get new mails before i can see a > > message (or open a folder for that matter) i clicked on. Also if i > > have intermittent network connection (weak wifi signal, > > disconnecting/reconnecting) and CM is in the middle of getting > > mail, it outright freezes in the scanning phase for good and i have > > to kill it because even the exit option is greyed out and the > > right-click exit option does not work. This is NOT google mail > > related, this is reletaed to the fact that CM has a sort of single > > threaded approach to mail receiving/fetching/scanning. > > > > So, it would be good if the scanning phase took place in background > > for good, and NOT interfere with the users actions AT ALL . Also, > > the (temporary) loss of network connection should NOT freeze the > > scanning process. > > > > The problems you have mentioned are *all* experienced here too. These problems exist because Claws-Mail is not a truly, fully multi-threaded application. It would probably require a complete rewrite of the application to achieve that sort of functionality. While it would certainly be nice if the developers undertook that project, I seriously doubt that it will occur anytime in the near future. I certainly agree that the lag in time and sometimes the complete lockup of the application are real nasty experiences. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From joydeep at infoservices.in Tue Mar 27 14:24:08 2012 From: joydeep at infoservices.in (J. Bakshi ( জয়দীপ বকসী )) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:54:08 +0530 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120327073010.69d1586c@scorpio> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> <20120327134305.7a3910a5@gmail.com> <20120327162502.37aebb86@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327073010.69d1586c@scorpio> Message-ID: <20120327175408.79481c44@shiva.selfip.org> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:30:10 -0400 Jerry wrote: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:25:02 +0530 > "J. Bakshi" articulated: > > > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:43:05 +0300 > > Kertesz Laszlo wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:41:44 +0200 > > > Steffen Klemer wrote: > > > > > > > I think this goes away when you select > > > > Configuration->Preferences->Receiving->Show Receive > > > > Dialogue->"Never" > > > > > > No this does not goes away. The OP was talking about the fact that > > > Claws Mail UI has certain options greyed out while getting mail > > > (scanning folders) AND, bigger nuisance, prevents the user from > > > accessing mails until the scanning (and fetching of messages) is > > > completed. > > > > > > I have a google account with lots of folders and i have to wait for > > > CM to scan all of them and get new mails before i can see a > > > message (or open a folder for that matter) i clicked on. Also if i > > > have intermittent network connection (weak wifi signal, > > > disconnecting/reconnecting) and CM is in the middle of getting > > > mail, it outright freezes in the scanning phase for good and i have > > > to kill it because even the exit option is greyed out and the > > > right-click exit option does not work. This is NOT google mail > > > related, this is reletaed to the fact that CM has a sort of single > > > threaded approach to mail receiving/fetching/scanning. > > > > > > So, it would be good if the scanning phase took place in background > > > for good, and NOT interfere with the users actions AT ALL . Also, > > > the (temporary) loss of network connection should NOT freeze the > > > scanning process. > > > > > > > The problems you have mentioned are *all* experienced here too. > > These problems exist because Claws-Mail is not a truly, fully > multi-threaded application. It would probably require a complete > rewrite of the application to achieve that sort of functionality. While > it would certainly be nice if the developers undertook that project, I > seriously doubt that it will occur anytime in the near future. I > certainly agree that the lag in time and sometimes the complete lockup > of the application are real nasty experiences. > We are very much hopeful about CM and was interested to adopt it in our organization, but to see its drawbacks which has been discovered through all these discussion, we are sorry to overlook CM in-spite of its positive sides. But we are hopeful and watching closely on its development and waiting for its maturity when it can be competitive in corporate world. Good luck and best wishes -- ****************************** Registered Linux User 524244 //PERSON name: Joydeep Bakshi city: KOLKATA state: WEST BENGAL country: IN usage: Home, Work started: sep 2001 homepage: http://jbakshi.50webs.com ***************************** From pf at pfortin.com Tue Mar 27 14:45:50 2012 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 08:45:50 -0400 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120327162502.37aebb86@shiva.selfip.org> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> <20120327134305.7a3910a5@gmail.com> <20120327162502.37aebb86@shiva.selfip.org> Message-ID: <20120327084550.3565e8c9@pfortin.com> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:25:02 +0530 J. Bakshi wrote: >On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:43:05 +0300 >Kertesz Laszlo wrote: > >> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:41:44 +0200 >> Steffen Klemer wrote: >> >> > I think this goes away when you select >> > Configuration->Preferences->Receiving->Show Receive Dialogue->"Never" >> > >> > >> > /Steffen >> > >> >> No this does not goes away. The OP was talking about the fact that >> Claws Mail UI has certain options greyed out while getting mail >> (scanning folders) AND, bigger nuisance, prevents the user from >> accessing mails until the scanning (and fetching of messages) is >> completed. >> >> I have a google account with lots of folders and i have to wait for CM >> to scan all of them and get new mails before i can see a message (or >> open a folder for that matter) i clicked on. Also if i have >> intermittent network connection (weak wifi signal, >> disconnecting/reconnecting) and CM is in the middle of getting mail, >> it outright freezes in the scanning phase for good and i have to kill >> it because even the exit option is greyed out and the right-click exit >> option does not work. This is NOT google mail related, this is >> reletaed to the fact that CM has a sort of single threaded approach to >> mail receiving/fetching/scanning. >> >> So, it would be good if the scanning phase took place in background >> for good, and NOT interfere with the users actions AT ALL . Also, the >> (temporary) loss of network connection should NOT freeze the scanning >> process. Alternatively, it would help if the account scans were scattered by spreading them out somehow... possible methods: - wait N seconds between accounts - spread account scans based on times between scans (can get complex in the case of many accounts with varying scan times) At least, this would provide shorter periods of impact w/o requiring a major rewrite. HTH, Pierre From laszlo.kertesz at gmail.com Tue Mar 27 15:23:53 2012 From: laszlo.kertesz at gmail.com (Kertesz Laszlo) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:23:53 +0300 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120327084550.3565e8c9@pfortin.com> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> <20120327134305.7a3910a5@gmail.com> <20120327162502.37aebb86@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327084550.3565e8c9@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20120327162353.62f64f91@gmail.com> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 08:45:50 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:25:02 +0530 J. Bakshi wrote: > > >On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:43:05 +0300 > >Kertesz Laszlo wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:41:44 +0200 > >> Steffen Klemer wrote: > >> > >> > I think this goes away when you select > >> > Configuration->Preferences->Receiving->Show Receive Dialogue->"Never" > >> > > >> > > >> > /Steffen > >> > > >> > >> No this does not goes away. The OP was talking about the fact that > >> Claws Mail UI has certain options greyed out while getting mail > >> (scanning folders) AND, bigger nuisance, prevents the user from > >> accessing mails until the scanning (and fetching of messages) is > >> completed. > >> > >> I have a google account with lots of folders and i have to wait for CM > >> to scan all of them and get new mails before i can see a message (or > >> open a folder for that matter) i clicked on. Also if i have > >> intermittent network connection (weak wifi signal, > >> disconnecting/reconnecting) and CM is in the middle of getting mail, > >> it outright freezes in the scanning phase for good and i have to kill > >> it because even the exit option is greyed out and the right-click exit > >> option does not work. This is NOT google mail related, this is > >> reletaed to the fact that CM has a sort of single threaded approach to > >> mail receiving/fetching/scanning. > >> > >> So, it would be good if the scanning phase took place in background > >> for good, and NOT interfere with the users actions AT ALL . Also, the > >> (temporary) loss of network connection should NOT freeze the scanning > >> process. > > Alternatively, it would help if the account scans were scattered by > spreading them out somehow... possible methods: > - wait N seconds between accounts > - spread account scans based on times between scans (can get complex in > the case of many accounts with varying scan times) > At least, this would provide shorter periods of impact w/o requiring a > major rewrite. > This wouldnt solve the issue either - say i need something done and the scanning starts (did many times), i have no other choice but wait. I have many folders in my google account (i have only 2 accounts in total) so it takes quite a while for one single account. > HTH, > Pierre > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users -- O zi buna, Kertesz Laszlo From subscript at free.fr Tue Mar 27 15:44:48 2012 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:44:48 +0200 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120327084550.3565e8c9@pfortin.com> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> <20120327134305.7a3910a5@gmail.com> <20120327162502.37aebb86@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327084550.3565e8c9@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20120327154448.3113c4fa@monolith> Hello Pierre, On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 08:45:50 -0400 Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:25:02 +0530 J. Bakshi wrote: > > >On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:43:05 +0300 > >Kertesz Laszlo wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:41:44 +0200 > >> Steffen Klemer wrote: > >> > >> > I think this goes away when you select > >> > Configuration->Preferences->Receiving->Show Receive Dialogue->"Never" > >> > > >> > > >> > /Steffen > >> > > >> > >> No this does not goes away. The OP was talking about the fact that > >> Claws Mail UI has certain options greyed out while getting mail > >> (scanning folders) AND, bigger nuisance, prevents the user from > >> accessing mails until the scanning (and fetching of messages) is > >> completed. > >> > >> I have a google account with lots of folders and i have to wait for CM > >> to scan all of them and get new mails before i can see a message (or > >> open a folder for that matter) i clicked on. Also if i have > >> intermittent network connection (weak wifi signal, > >> disconnecting/reconnecting) and CM is in the middle of getting mail, > >> it outright freezes in the scanning phase for good and i have to kill > >> it because even the exit option is greyed out and the right-click exit > >> option does not work. This is NOT google mail related, this is > >> reletaed to the fact that CM has a sort of single threaded approach to > >> mail receiving/fetching/scanning. > >> > >> So, it would be good if the scanning phase took place in background > >> for good, and NOT interfere with the users actions AT ALL . Also, the > >> (temporary) loss of network connection should NOT freeze the scanning > >> process. > > Alternatively, it would help if the account scans were scattered by > spreading them out somehow... possible methods: > - wait N seconds between accounts > - spread account scans based on times between scans (can get complex in > the case of many accounts with varying scan times) > At least, this would provide shorter periods of impact w/o requiring a > major rewrite. It's like, for instance for a POP3 account, to either: - fetch more frequently (statistically grab less data at once) - fetch less frequently (but statistically grab more data at once) Playing like that in order to reduce or balance the network load and the UI freezing is highly non realistic and ineffective to me ;-), unless a specific situation is met. Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pf at pfortin.com Tue Mar 27 16:26:36 2012 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:26:36 -0400 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120327154448.3113c4fa@monolith> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> <20120327134305.7a3910a5@gmail.com> <20120327162502.37aebb86@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327084550.3565e8c9@pfortin.com> <20120327154448.3113c4fa@monolith> Message-ID: <20120327102636.4d6f9448@pfortin.com> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:44:48 +0200 wwp wrote: Surely, we all know that no solution will work for everyone; but no solution will work for no-one... :) :) Just suggesting yet another option. In my case, I run two instances of CM with 7+8 and 5+7 (active+inactive) accounts respectively. So the suggestion would definitely help me. Although signing-in to the 2nd userid is making me contemplate the use of --alternate-config-dir to avoid it. >It's like, for instance for a POP3 account, to either: > >- fetch more frequently (statistically grab less data at once) in my case, this would mean more of the long, problematic periods due to the sheer number of accounts to scan; this could be alleviated by using different scan times which I'd forgotten was not yet implemented -- at least, I believe this was discussed a while back (yup, briefly; see below). >- fetch less frequently (but statistically grab more data at once) This would work better for me; but even better if the scan was broken up into individual one-account scans. >Playing like that in order to reduce or balance the network load and >the UI freezing is highly non realistic and ineffective to me ;-), >unless a specific situation is met. We currently have a one-dimensional solution (yours), and my suggestion would add a 2nd dimension with "minimal effort" which was the real goal of my suggestion... :) Still LOVE CM after 10 years; but my top enhancement request would be for multi-threading. Plus a way to hide (not fold) rarely used folders :) Realistically, I'd be happy with different per-account scan times and/or some form of return of control to the user between account scans. Cheers, Pierre ------------ from my archives ---------------- From: Páder Rezső To: Claws Mail users list Subject: Re: Per-account mail checking interval Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 17:34:29 +0200 X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i586-uhu-linux-gnu) Hello, currently this is not possible, but it would be nice... Best regards, rezso > Hi list, > > I have set claws to automatically check for new mail every 5 minutes. > Is it possible to change this value on a per-account basis, like > checking every 120 minutes on less important accounts? > > Happy Holidays, > Clemens From slitt at troubleshooters.com Tue Mar 27 17:57:28 2012 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:57:28 -0400 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> Message-ID: <20120327115728.5cff75d1@mydesk> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:14:23 +0530 "J. Bakshi" wrote: > Dear list, > > I have introduces CM (3.8.0) in our organization. The initial > response was very good, specially the quick search abilities of CM > draws everyone's attentions. > > But soon users ( who are thunderbird users) have faced the well known > problem of CM, the frozen and grayed out issue. Even some users > complaint the CM was frozen when they were in middle of the writing > urgent emails. > > The same thing happens also during mail search. Is there any way to > fix this very issue ? > > BTW: I have faced the same problem during my writing of this very > small email, because CM was downloading emails !!! Hi J. Bakshi, The way I minimize this inconvenience is to set Claws to download only when I tell it to. That way it doesn't happen in the middle of writing an email, and, for instance, they could download email just before a bathroom break or a walk to the coffee pot. The tougher problem is when you're three levels down in the menu system and all of a sudden it appears to freeze hard. Now you and I both know that what has happened is some Claws dialog, not currently in the foreground, needs attention, but to the new Claws user the symptom description would be "hung" or "froze". I had a particularly difficult one of these last night when I clicked OK and everything grayed out. It turned out that a value on the dialog was illegal and I had to go change it, but the only indication to the user was everything grayed out. I think the best strategy against this type of thing is an education campaign -- once you've seen it for what it is, it doesn't panic you. I'm not saying that "just work with it" is an ideal solution, but threaded programming is difficult, and if threading this program would take a complete rewrite, I'd worry that the next version would have serious bugs. SteveT From littlergirl at gmail.com Tue Mar 27 19:28:33 2012 From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:28:33 -0400 Subject: [Users] Color for unread messages? In-Reply-To: <20120327015210.3fab8ae8@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20120325204443.4427c2d9@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f70d035.c83ae00a.0c69.5ca1@mx.google.com> <20120326162802.30cf3e1f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120327015210.3fab8ae8@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <4f71f8c2.c8bde00a.1565.5bbd@mx.google.com> Hey there, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > John Jason Jordan wrote: > > Little Girl dijo: > > >Enjoy your colorful unread messages! (: > > > > Great! > > > > Except for one small problem: After reading a message it stays > > colored. :( > > > Use a post processing rule > Instead of: > 7) The Flag selectors should automatically say that Unread is set. > use > 7) Set the Flag selectors to say that Unread is not-set. > Instead of: > 14) Choose one of the colors by left-clicking it. > use > 14) Choose none for the color. > > Then every time you leave a folder every message mark read will be > colored black. Agreed, this will work. The only drawback is that it could conflict with other processing rules. When I was testing just now, all my read messages turned black, when they're normally a rainbow. ): I was hoping that positioning the new rule above other rules would prevent it from conflicting with them, but it looks like the best way to prevent conflicts is to add the Flags criteria to your other rules in addition to the criteria (criterion?) they already have. The rainbow is back. All is well with the world. (: -- Little Girl There is no spoon. From mir at miras.org Tue Mar 27 19:59:49 2012 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:59:49 +0200 Subject: [Users] Color for unread messages? In-Reply-To: <4f71f8c2.c8bde00a.1565.5bbd@mx.google.com> References: <20120325204443.4427c2d9@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f70d035.c83ae00a.0c69.5ca1@mx.google.com> <20120326162802.30cf3e1f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120327015210.3fab8ae8@sleipner.datanom.net> <4f71f8c2.c8bde00a.1565.5bbd@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <20120327195949.75cd9133@sleipner.datanom.net> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:28:33 -0400 Little Girl wrote: > > Agreed, this will work. The only drawback is that it could conflict > with other processing rules. When I was testing just now, all my read > messages turned black, when they're normally a rainbow. ): > True, but since this was my only post precessing rule I did not notice:-) -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From littlergirl at gmail.com Tue Mar 27 19:33:55 2012 From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:33:55 -0400 Subject: [Users] Color for unread messages? In-Reply-To: <20120327004300.432fcdde@mydesk> References: <20120325204443.4427c2d9@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f70d035.c83ae00a.0c69.5ca1@mx.google.com> <20120326162802.30cf3e1f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120327004300.432fcdde@mydesk> Message-ID: <4f71fa04.48bbe00a.4f0e.5ac1@mx.google.com> Hey there, Steve Litt wrote: > There's no flag for "Read", and there's no color label "Black". To flag messages that have been read, choose "Unread" and then choose "not set" instead of set. To choose black as the color, choose None, since black is the default color. -- Little Girl There is no spoon. From berndth at gmx.de Tue Mar 27 22:19:24 2012 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:19:24 +0200 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120327102636.4d6f9448@pfortin.com> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> <20120327134305.7a3910a5@gmail.com> <20120327162502.37aebb86@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327084550.3565e8c9@pfortin.com> <20120327154448.3113c4fa@monolith> <20120327102636.4d6f9448@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20120327221924.5434ca6c@wodan> On Di, 27.03.2012 10:26, Pierre Fortin wrote: >but my top enhancement request would be for multi-threading. Multi-threading is not a feature, it's an implementation detail. The feature would be not to block the UI when doing potentially long operations - threading is one possible solution, but most likely not even a good one (if it requires direct fiddling with threads in Claws Mail's code base). Holger From johnxj at comcast.net Tue Mar 27 23:36:04 2012 From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:36:04 -0700 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120327134305.7a3910a5@gmail.com> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> <20120327134305.7a3910a5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20120327143604.08cd42c7@mailhost.pdx.edu> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:43:05 +0300 Kertesz Laszlo dijo: >No this does not goes away. The OP was talking about the fact that >Claws Mail UI has certain options greyed out while getting mail >(scanning folders) AND, bigger nuisance, prevents the user from >accessing mails until the scanning (and fetching of messages) is >completed. This was never a nuisance for years when I used Claws Mail only with POP accounts. Lately I added an IMAP connection to a Google mail account where there are a lot of folder, and it does take a long time. It's not enough of a bother for me, but I can see where it would be a major issue in a large company. I wonder if a workaround might be to have a corporate server on the local network access the Google servers, and then the desktop machines can access their mail from the corporate server. This would make the speed much faster, perhaps only a few seconds. The only machine that would be tied up during access would be the corporate server. From slitt at troubleshooters.com Tue Mar 27 23:51:46 2012 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:51:46 -0400 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120327143604.08cd42c7@mailhost.pdx.edu> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> <20120327134305.7a3910a5@gmail.com> <20120327143604.08cd42c7@mailhost.pdx.edu> Message-ID: <20120327175146.126f72d7@mydesk> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:36:04 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:43:05 +0300 > Kertesz Laszlo dijo: > > >No this does not goes away. The OP was talking about the fact that > >Claws Mail UI has certain options greyed out while getting mail > >(scanning folders) AND, bigger nuisance, prevents the user from > >accessing mails until the scanning (and fetching of messages) is > >completed. > > This was never a nuisance for years when I used Claws Mail only with > POP accounts. Lately I added an IMAP connection to a Google mail > account where there are a lot of folder, and it does take a long time. > > It's not enough of a bother for me, but I can see where it would be a > major issue in a large company. I wonder if a workaround might be to > have a corporate server on the local network access the Google > servers, and then the desktop machines can access their mail from the > corporate server. This would make the speed much faster, perhaps only > a few seconds. The only machine that would be tied up during access > would be the corporate server. > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list Hi John, I'm using my own Dovecot IMAP server on the same physical box (no VM's) as my Claws-Mail, and it's still a good 10-30 seconds to scan the tree, depending on how much mail has come in since my last scan. Oh, and I'm not using Claws' filtering, but instead am filtering as procmail before the stuff comes into my local Dovecot server, so I'd assume with Claws filtering it would delay Claws-Mail even more. I have about 100 folders in my Dovecot IMAP setup. I'm using Claws-Mail 3.7.8 on 64 bit Ubuntu Linux 11.04 with 4GB of RAM and Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7200 @ 2.53GHz with a couple of 7200 RPM disks using Ext4. Thanks SteveT From berndth at gmx.de Wed Mar 28 00:04:33 2012 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:04:33 +0200 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120327175146.126f72d7@mydesk> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> <20120327134305.7a3910a5@gmail.com> <20120327143604.08cd42c7@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120327175146.126f72d7@mydesk> Message-ID: <20120328000433.287d147a@wodan> On Di, 27.03.2012 17:51, Steve Litt wrote: >Oh, and I'm >not using Claws' filtering, but instead am filtering as procmail before >the stuff comes into my local Dovecot server, so I'd assume with Claws >filtering it would delay Claws-Mail even more. I wouldn't be surprised if server-side filtering and thus having to scan 100 folders instead of one actually makes things slower. Holger From jerry at seibercom.net Wed Mar 28 00:34:02 2012 From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:34:02 -0400 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120327221924.5434ca6c@wodan> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> <20120327134305.7a3910a5@gmail.com> <20120327162502.37aebb86@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327084550.3565e8c9@pfortin.com> <20120327154448.3113c4fa@monolith> <20120327102636.4d6f9448@pfortin.com> <20120327221924.5434ca6c@wodan> Message-ID: <20120327183402.4a4846e8@scorpio> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:19:24 +0200 Holger Berndt articulated: > Multi-threading is not a feature, it's an implementation detail. The > feature would be not to block the UI when doing potentially long > operations - threading is one possible solution, but most likely not > even a good one (if it requires direct fiddling with threads in Claws > Mail's code base). We are arguing over semantics. If you implement true multi-threading into an application, it is in fact a feature of the application. To so so, and do it correctly, would probably require a complete rewrite of Claws-Mail and therefore is not likely to happen in the next five minutes. From what I have seen, it takes more than a rudimental knowledge of coding to do it correctly. It might be something the developers might want to consider for the 4.x or 5.x version when they are eventually written. In any event, while I love CM for my home environment, I still prefer MS Outlook for my business. It is a better fit. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From rennabh at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 00:36:17 2012 From: rennabh at gmail.com (Renato) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:36:17 +0200 Subject: [Users] configuring IMAP for dovecot server In-Reply-To: <20120326233210.26188880@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20120326191404.36526d4b@gmail.com> <20120326194227.73139482@sleipner.datanom.net> <20120326204649.7defe143@gmail.com> <20120326215217.397fdb96@sleipner.datanom.net> <20120326230425.50e711c1@gmail.com> <20120326233210.26188880@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20120328003617.64065c62@gmail.com> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 23:32:10 +0200 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 23:04:25 +0200 > Renato wrote: > > > * LIST (\HasChildren) "." "INBOX" > > ? OK List completed. > > > That means dovecot is working and that you are able to login. The > reason why you don't see anything in Claws is that the INBOX is empty, > eg. contains no folders or mails. A maildir folder needs to be > constructed after a very specific rule set which is normally done the > first time you login. See the following utility for solving your > problem: maildirmake.dovecot (maildirmake.dovecot - creates maildirs > and maildir subfolders) > You pointed me in the right direction! I unchecked the option "Show subscribed folders only" from the Recieving tab in the account settings, and now it's correctly downloading the mail. I didn't do any modifications to the dovecot configuration. So for now, I'm set. Thank you very much Michael, best wishes, renato From slitt at troubleshooters.com Wed Mar 28 00:45:48 2012 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:45:48 -0400 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120328000433.287d147a@wodan> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> <20120327134305.7a3910a5@gmail.com> <20120327143604.08cd42c7@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120327175146.126f72d7@mydesk> <20120328000433.287d147a@wodan> Message-ID: <20120327184548.1f5caa5f@mydesk> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:04:33 +0200 Holger Berndt wrote: > On Di, 27.03.2012 17:51, Steve Litt wrote: > > >Oh, and I'm > >not using Claws' filtering, but instead am filtering as procmail > >before the stuff comes into my local Dovecot server, so I'd assume > >with Claws filtering it would delay Claws-Mail even more. > > I wouldn't be surprised if server-side filtering and thus having to > scan 100 folders instead of one actually makes things slower. > > Holger So instead, pop3 all email from Gmail to Claws, then use Claws' filtering to put it in Claws' folders. That won't work for me, but it just might be faster. SteveT From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Mar 28 01:03:47 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 01:03:47 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2627] Filtering does not work on NNTP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120327230348.5D85B85488@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2627 --- Comment #7 from flobber 2012-03-28 01:03:43 --- Nice trick with the "inbox" type. So it seems, Claws-Mail actually *can* filter newsgroups only the check is wrong (only folders of type "inbox" whereas it should be something like: all folders where filtering is enabled). Anyway, in the meantime I've already disabled (pre-)processing for NNTP as that triggers downloading of all articles. I just tried the "inbox" trick and it seems that filtering does the same (downloads all articles - correct me if I'm wrong), something I assumed would not be necessary for filtering (at least as long as there's no rule which needs the body). Does somebody know, whether there's a hook that I could use to write my own filter plugin? A hook, that is called for each new article/mail _header_ which does not trigger downloading the bodies? -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Mar 28 05:56:54 2012 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 04:56:54 +0100 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120327184548.1f5caa5f@mydesk> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> <20120327134305.7a3910a5@gmail.com> <20120327143604.08cd42c7@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120327175146.126f72d7@mydesk> <20120328000433.287d147a@wodan> <20120327184548.1f5caa5f@mydesk> Message-ID: <20120328045654.4220dfcf@thewildbeast> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:45:48 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > > I wouldn't be surprised if server-side filtering and thus having > > to scan 100 folders instead of one actually makes things slower. > > > > Holger > > So instead, pop3 all email from Gmail to Claws, then use Claws' > filtering to put it in Claws' folders. No, I believe what Holger meant was that doing server-side filtering and thus having to scan all your folders in Claws is probably slower than no server-side filtering, and having Claws scan just one folder (the inbox) and do the filtering itself. with regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From laszlo.kertesz at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 06:20:33 2012 From: laszlo.kertesz at gmail.com (Kertesz Laszlo) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:20:33 +0300 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120328045654.4220dfcf@thewildbeast> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> <20120327134305.7a3910a5@gmail.com> <20120327143604.08cd42c7@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120327175146.126f72d7@mydesk> <20120328000433.287d147a@wodan> <20120327184548.1f5caa5f@mydesk> <20120328045654.4220dfcf@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20120328072033.2ed402c5@gmail.com> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 04:56:54 +0100 Paul wrote: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:45:48 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > > I wouldn't be surprised if server-side filtering and thus having > > > to scan 100 folders instead of one actually makes things slower. > > > > > > Holger > > > > So instead, pop3 all email from Gmail to Claws, then use Claws' > > filtering to put it in Claws' folders. > > No, I believe what Holger meant was that doing server-side filtering > and thus having to scan all your folders in Claws is probably slower > than no server-side filtering, and having Claws scan just one folder > (the inbox) and do the filtering itself. Well i have several computers. I need everything the same way on all of them + on the web GUI. So i use imap + i did the filtering server side, its more simple this way than fiddling with every single computer. > > with regards > > Paul > > -- O zi buna, Kertesz Laszlo From joydeep at infoservices.in Wed Mar 28 07:49:57 2012 From: joydeep at infoservices.in (J. Bakshi ( জয়দীপ বকসী )) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:19:57 +0530 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120327115728.5cff75d1@mydesk> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327115728.5cff75d1@mydesk> Message-ID: <20120328111957.78ccfbd0@shiva.selfip.org> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:57:28 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:14:23 +0530 > "J. Bakshi" wrote: > > > Dear list, > > > > I have introduces CM (3.8.0) in our organization. The initial > > response was very good, specially the quick search abilities of CM > > draws everyone's attentions. > > > > But soon users ( who are thunderbird users) have faced the well known > > problem of CM, the frozen and grayed out issue. Even some users > > complaint the CM was frozen when they were in middle of the writing > > urgent emails. > > > > The same thing happens also during mail search. Is there any way to > > fix this very issue ? > > > > BTW: I have faced the same problem during my writing of this very > > small email, because CM was downloading emails !!! > > Hi J. Bakshi, > > The way I minimize this inconvenience is to set Claws to download only > when I tell it to. That way it doesn't happen in the middle of writing > an email, and, for instance, they could download email just before a > bathroom break or a walk to the coffee pot. > > The tougher problem is when you're three levels down in the menu system > and all of a sudden it appears to freeze hard. Now you and I both know > that what has happened is some Claws dialog, not currently in the > foreground, needs attention, but to the new Claws user the symptom > description would be "hung" or "froze". I had a particularly difficult > one of these last night when I clicked OK and everything grayed out. It > turned out that a value on the dialog was illegal and I had to go > change it, but the only indication to the user was everything grayed > out. I think the best strategy against this type of thing is an > education campaign -- once you've seen it for what it is, it doesn't > panic you. > > I'm not saying that "just work with it" is an ideal solution, but > threaded programming is difficult, and if threading this program would > take a complete rewrite, I'd worry that the next version would have > serious bugs. > > SteveT Hello SteveT, well... I am a CM user in home environment since last couple of years, and I am overlooking its drawbacks purposely because of its positive sides :-) But when we like to introduce S/W to corporate sector; then rather than the personal liking; the usability to that sector playing the prime role. It is not that CM is not liked by the corporate users; majority of whom are familiar with outlook and thunderbird since long. This is really a good point. Just its some drawbacks (well, may not be a issue programmatically, but the users will use it finally ) don't allow the users to accept it confidently. At office I really don't have much time to allow it to complete it's operations during frozen state. Thunderbird is a better choice at office. And home I need to kill the CM when it doesn't come back from its frozen state :-( If CM can fix those issues, it will be surely at the 1st position. From slitt at troubleshooters.com Wed Mar 28 08:56:10 2012 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 02:56:10 -0400 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120328045654.4220dfcf@thewildbeast> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> <20120327134305.7a3910a5@gmail.com> <20120327143604.08cd42c7@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120327175146.126f72d7@mydesk> <20120328000433.287d147a@wodan> <20120327184548.1f5caa5f@mydesk> <20120328045654.4220dfcf@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20120328025610.02f7169b@mydesk> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 04:56:54 +0100 Paul wrote: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:45:48 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > > I wouldn't be surprised if server-side filtering and thus having > > > to scan 100 folders instead of one actually makes things slower. > > > > > > Holger > > > > So instead, pop3 all email from Gmail to Claws, then use Claws' > > filtering to put it in Claws' folders. > > No, I believe what Holger meant was that doing server-side filtering > and thus having to scan all your folders in Claws is probably slower > than no server-side filtering, and having Claws scan just one folder > (the inbox) and do the filtering itself. > > with regards > > Paul Why would you have a Gmail account, or a local IMAP, with just one folder? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of IMAP? SteveT From slitt at troubleshooters.com Wed Mar 28 09:01:01 2012 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 03:01:01 -0400 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120328111957.78ccfbd0@shiva.selfip.org> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327115728.5cff75d1@mydesk> <20120328111957.78ccfbd0@shiva.selfip.org> Message-ID: <20120328030101.13a739d4@mydesk> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:19:57 +0530 "J. Bakshi" wrote: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:57:28 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:14:23 +0530 > > "J. Bakshi" wrote: > > > > > Dear list, > > > > > > I have introduces CM (3.8.0) in our organization. The initial > > > response was very good, specially the quick search abilities of CM > > > draws everyone's attentions. > > > > > > But soon users ( who are thunderbird users) have faced the well > > > known problem of CM, the frozen and grayed out issue. Even some > > > users complaint the CM was frozen when they were in middle of the > > > writing urgent emails. > > > > > > The same thing happens also during mail search. Is there any way > > > to fix this very issue ? > > > > > > BTW: I have faced the same problem during my writing of this very > > > small email, because CM was downloading emails !!! > > > > Hi J. Bakshi, > > > > The way I minimize this inconvenience is to set Claws to download > > only when I tell it to. That way it doesn't happen in the middle of > > writing an email, and, for instance, they could download email just > > before a bathroom break or a walk to the coffee pot. > > > > The tougher problem is when you're three levels down in the menu > > system and all of a sudden it appears to freeze hard. Now you and I > > both know that what has happened is some Claws dialog, not > > currently in the foreground, needs attention, but to the new Claws > > user the symptom description would be "hung" or "froze". I had a > > particularly difficult one of these last night when I clicked OK > > and everything grayed out. It turned out that a value on the dialog > > was illegal and I had to go change it, but the only indication to > > the user was everything grayed out. I think the best strategy > > against this type of thing is an education campaign -- once you've > > seen it for what it is, it doesn't panic you. > > > > I'm not saying that "just work with it" is an ideal solution, but > > threaded programming is difficult, and if threading this program > > would take a complete rewrite, I'd worry that the next version > > would have serious bugs. > > > > SteveT > > Hello SteveT, > > well... I am a CM user in home environment since last couple of > years, and I am overlooking its drawbacks purposely because of its > positive sides :-) > > But when we like to introduce S/W to corporate sector; then rather > than the personal liking; the usability to that sector playing the > prime role. It is not that CM is not liked by the corporate users; > majority of whom are familiar with outlook and thunderbird since > long. This is really a good point. Just its some drawbacks (well, may > not be a issue programmatically, but the users will use it finally ) > don't allow the users to accept it confidently. > > At office I really don't have much time to allow it to complete it's > operations during frozen state. Thunderbird is a better choice at > office. And home I need to kill the CM when it doesn't come back from > its frozen state :-( > > If CM can fix those issues, it will be surely at the 1st position. I wonder if getting mail, and ONLY getting mail, could be made another process? Theoretically it's simple enough, but I was in the code a few days ago looking to recursivize the search, and what I found was that algorithm and UI and callbacks were all mixed together reminiscent of Model/View/Controller, and under those circumstances sometimes it's not so easy just to break out a piece of code and use it elsewhere (or put it in a different process). SteveT From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Wed Mar 28 09:02:50 2012 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:02:50 +0100 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120328025610.02f7169b@mydesk> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> <20120327134305.7a3910a5@gmail.com> <20120327143604.08cd42c7@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120327175146.126f72d7@mydesk> <20120328000433.287d147a@wodan> <20120327184548.1f5caa5f@mydesk> <20120328045654.4220dfcf@thewildbeast> <20120328025610.02f7169b@mydesk> Message-ID: <20120328080250.4721a872@thewildbeast> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 02:56:10 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Why would you have a Gmail account, or a local IMAP, with just one > folder? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of IMAP? That's not what I said, please re-read. with regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From r.brusa at gmx.ch Wed Mar 28 09:26:59 2012 From: r.brusa at gmx.ch (Roman Brusa) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:26:59 +0200 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120328025610.02f7169b@mydesk> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> <20120327134305.7a3910a5@gmail.com> <20120327143604.08cd42c7@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120327175146.126f72d7@mydesk> <20120328000433.287d147a@wodan> <20120327184548.1f5caa5f@mydesk> <20120328045654.4220dfcf@thewildbeast> <20120328025610.02f7169b@mydesk> Message-ID: <20120328092659.5b5e7836@rbits.ch> Hi, on Wed, 28 Mar 2012 02:56:10 -0400, Steve wrote: >On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 04:56:54 +0100 >Paul wrote: > >> No, I believe what Holger meant was that doing server-side filtering >> and thus having to scan all your folders in Claws is probably slower >> than no server-side filtering, and having Claws scan just one folder >> (the inbox) and do the filtering itself. > >Why would you have a Gmail account, or a local IMAP, with just one >folder? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of IMAP? FWIW: I have a Gmail account with lots of folders, but my CM only scans the Gmail Inbox for new mail. My main instance of CM does all the filtering while checking the inbox, there are no filters in Gmail. Disadvantage is, when I check mail on Google Mail, the new mail is not filtered. That's not much of a problem though, because I know, CM will do the filtering next time I run it. Best, Roman -- Nicht der Augenblick erschafft den Menschen, der Mensch zeugt seine Zeit. - Oscar Wilde From rennabh at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 10:38:15 2012 From: rennabh at gmail.com (Renato) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:38:15 +0200 Subject: [Users] multiple IMAP accounts in one mailbox Message-ID: <20120328103815.2ab75afd@gmail.com> Hi, when I add an IMAP account a new mailbox gets created. Is it possible for this not to happen, and thus having a single Inbox for all accounts? The best thing would be to be able to tell cm in what local folder it should put mail from a certain IMAP folder. Is this possible? cheers, renato From subscript at free.fr Wed Mar 28 10:50:58 2012 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:50:58 +0200 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120328111957.78ccfbd0@shiva.selfip.org> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327115728.5cff75d1@mydesk> <20120328111957.78ccfbd0@shiva.selfip.org> Message-ID: <20120328105058.005e164d@monolith> Hello J., On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:19:57 +0530 "J. Bakshi" wrote: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:57:28 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:14:23 +0530 > > "J. Bakshi" wrote: > > > > > Dear list, > > > > > > I have introduces CM (3.8.0) in our organization. The initial > > > response was very good, specially the quick search abilities of CM > > > draws everyone's attentions. > > > > > > But soon users ( who are thunderbird users) have faced the well known > > > problem of CM, the frozen and grayed out issue. Even some users > > > complaint the CM was frozen when they were in middle of the writing > > > urgent emails. > > > > > > The same thing happens also during mail search. Is there any way to > > > fix this very issue ? > > > > > > BTW: I have faced the same problem during my writing of this very > > > small email, because CM was downloading emails !!! > > > > Hi J. Bakshi, > > > > The way I minimize this inconvenience is to set Claws to download only > > when I tell it to. That way it doesn't happen in the middle of writing > > an email, and, for instance, they could download email just before a > > bathroom break or a walk to the coffee pot. > > > > The tougher problem is when you're three levels down in the menu system > > and all of a sudden it appears to freeze hard. Now you and I both know > > that what has happened is some Claws dialog, not currently in the > > foreground, needs attention, but to the new Claws user the symptom > > description would be "hung" or "froze". I had a particularly difficult > > one of these last night when I clicked OK and everything grayed out. It > > turned out that a value on the dialog was illegal and I had to go > > change it, but the only indication to the user was everything grayed > > out. I think the best strategy against this type of thing is an > > education campaign -- once you've seen it for what it is, it doesn't > > panic you. > > > > I'm not saying that "just work with it" is an ideal solution, but > > threaded programming is difficult, and if threading this program would > > take a complete rewrite, I'd worry that the next version would have > > serious bugs. > > > > SteveT > [snip] > And home I need to kill the CM when it doesn't come back from its frozen state :-( [snip] You need to kill it, really?? What is it doing exactly when you say it's freezing? If you kill it while it's working, you can be sure next time it will try to do again what it was doing when you killed it. I mean, killing CM while it works is not a good idea, but if you're facing a specific technical freeze, you should harvest some information so that we can debug the situation. Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From joydeep at infoservices.in Wed Mar 28 11:05:16 2012 From: joydeep at infoservices.in (J. Bakshi ( জয়দীপ বকসী )) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:35:16 +0530 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120328105058.005e164d@monolith> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327115728.5cff75d1@mydesk> <20120328111957.78ccfbd0@shiva.selfip.org> <20120328105058.005e164d@monolith> Message-ID: <20120328143516.51dc5700@shiva.selfip.org> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:50:58 +0200 wwp wrote: > Hello J., > > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:19:57 +0530 "J. Bakshi" wrote: > > > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:57:28 -0400 > > Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:14:23 +0530 > > > "J. Bakshi" wrote: > > > > > > > Dear list, > > > > > > > > I have introduces CM (3.8.0) in our organization. The initial > > > > response was very good, specially the quick search abilities of CM > > > > draws everyone's attentions. > > > > > > > > But soon users ( who are thunderbird users) have faced the well known > > > > problem of CM, the frozen and grayed out issue. Even some users > > > > complaint the CM was frozen when they were in middle of the writing > > > > urgent emails. > > > > > > > > The same thing happens also during mail search. Is there any way to > > > > fix this very issue ? > > > > > > > > BTW: I have faced the same problem during my writing of this very > > > > small email, because CM was downloading emails !!! > > > > > > Hi J. Bakshi, > > > > > > The way I minimize this inconvenience is to set Claws to download only > > > when I tell it to. That way it doesn't happen in the middle of writing > > > an email, and, for instance, they could download email just before a > > > bathroom break or a walk to the coffee pot. > > > > > > The tougher problem is when you're three levels down in the menu system > > > and all of a sudden it appears to freeze hard. Now you and I both know > > > that what has happened is some Claws dialog, not currently in the > > > foreground, needs attention, but to the new Claws user the symptom > > > description would be "hung" or "froze". I had a particularly difficult > > > one of these last night when I clicked OK and everything grayed out. It > > > turned out that a value on the dialog was illegal and I had to go > > > change it, but the only indication to the user was everything grayed > > > out. I think the best strategy against this type of thing is an > > > education campaign -- once you've seen it for what it is, it doesn't > > > panic you. > > > > > > I'm not saying that "just work with it" is an ideal solution, but > > > threaded programming is difficult, and if threading this program would > > > take a complete rewrite, I'd worry that the next version would have > > > serious bugs. > > > > > > SteveT > > > [snip] > > And home I need to kill the CM when it doesn't come back from its frozen state :-( > [snip] > > You need to kill it, really?? What is it doing exactly when you say > it's freezing? If you kill it while it's working, you can be sure next > time it will try to do again what it was doing when you killed it. > I mean, killing CM while it works is not a good idea, but if you're > facing a specific technical freeze, you should harvest some information > so that we can debug the situation. > > > Regards, > Sure, next time I will start with with -debug and collect the information during that state and mail here. Thanks From subscript at free.fr Wed Mar 28 11:18:44 2012 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:18:44 +0200 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120328143516.51dc5700@shiva.selfip.org> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327115728.5cff75d1@mydesk> <20120328111957.78ccfbd0@shiva.selfip.org> <20120328105058.005e164d@monolith> <20120328143516.51dc5700@shiva.selfip.org> Message-ID: <20120328111844.5d090941@monolith> Hello J., On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:35:16 +0530 "J. Bakshi" wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:50:58 +0200 > wwp wrote: > > > Hello J., > > > > > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:19:57 +0530 "J. Bakshi" wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:57:28 -0400 > > > Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:14:23 +0530 > > > > "J. Bakshi" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear list, > > > > > > > > > > I have introduces CM (3.8.0) in our organization. The initial > > > > > response was very good, specially the quick search abilities of CM > > > > > draws everyone's attentions. > > > > > > > > > > But soon users ( who are thunderbird users) have faced the well known > > > > > problem of CM, the frozen and grayed out issue. Even some users > > > > > complaint the CM was frozen when they were in middle of the writing > > > > > urgent emails. > > > > > > > > > > The same thing happens also during mail search. Is there any way to > > > > > fix this very issue ? > > > > > > > > > > BTW: I have faced the same problem during my writing of this very > > > > > small email, because CM was downloading emails !!! > > > > > > > > Hi J. Bakshi, > > > > > > > > The way I minimize this inconvenience is to set Claws to download only > > > > when I tell it to. That way it doesn't happen in the middle of writing > > > > an email, and, for instance, they could download email just before a > > > > bathroom break or a walk to the coffee pot. > > > > > > > > The tougher problem is when you're three levels down in the menu system > > > > and all of a sudden it appears to freeze hard. Now you and I both know > > > > that what has happened is some Claws dialog, not currently in the > > > > foreground, needs attention, but to the new Claws user the symptom > > > > description would be "hung" or "froze". I had a particularly difficult > > > > one of these last night when I clicked OK and everything grayed out. It > > > > turned out that a value on the dialog was illegal and I had to go > > > > change it, but the only indication to the user was everything grayed > > > > out. I think the best strategy against this type of thing is an > > > > education campaign -- once you've seen it for what it is, it doesn't > > > > panic you. > > > > > > > > I'm not saying that "just work with it" is an ideal solution, but > > > > threaded programming is difficult, and if threading this program would > > > > take a complete rewrite, I'd worry that the next version would have > > > > serious bugs. > > > > > > > > SteveT > > > > > [snip] > > > And home I need to kill the CM when it doesn't come back from its frozen state :-( > > [snip] > > > > You need to kill it, really?? What is it doing exactly when you say > > it's freezing? If you kill it while it's working, you can be sure next > > time it will try to do again what it was doing when you killed it. > > I mean, killing CM while it works is not a good idea, but if you're > > facing a specific technical freeze, you should harvest some information > > so that we can debug the situation. > > > > > > Regards, > > Sure, next time I will start with with -debug and collect the > information during that state and mail here. That may sound obvious, but CM is not supposed to freeze, unless you're fetching a large stuff and additionally running on a slow machine (or if CPU is used by other applications). And even, the UI would become less responsive, not frozen up to a point that CM is a zombie. Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks Cliff CM 3.8.0 / Mepis Linux 8.5 From jerry at seibercom.net Wed Mar 28 12:35:56 2012 From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 06:35:56 -0400 Subject: [Users] email sent to the Claws Mail mailing list In-Reply-To: <20120327185216.62c43b2d@thehugheslogcabin.net> References: <20120327185216.62c43b2d@thehugheslogcabin.net> Message-ID: <20120328063556.645ceb57@scorpio> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:52:16 -0500 Michael Hughes articulated: > Jerry, > When I read the email that you send the Claws Mail mailing list it is > all ran together. Do you have Claws Mail setup to wrap lines at 72 > characters? It make it hard to read, the included lines from the > previous email is all ran together also. > > I want to make sure if the email is being sent that way, or something > is causing the problem on my end. Thanks for your help in advance. Normally I would just discard this as I don't answer mail received off list; however, I am willing to make an exception in this case. I also placed it "back on list" since that is where list traffic belongs. It is not possible for me to answer your question without some sort of proof of what you are claiming. I would need at the very least a screen snap-shot of the item in question. I might add that I believe that the problem exists on your end since no one has ever made that accusation before. Claws-Mail is set to line wrap at 72 characters. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From dan_arico at aricosystems.com Wed Mar 28 15:44:26 2012 From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:44:26 -0400 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120328111957.78ccfbd0@shiva.selfip.org> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327115728.5cff75d1@mydesk> <20120328111957.78ccfbd0@shiva.selfip.org> Message-ID: <20120328094426.31fb5fd5.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:19:57 +0530 "J. Bakshi" wrote: > At office I really don't have much time to allow it to complete it's > operations during frozen state. Thunderbird is a better choice at > office. And home I need to kill the CM when it doesn't come back from > its frozen state :-( > > If CM can fix those issues, it will be surely at the 1st position. I've been following this thread and I'm puzzled. I don't see these issues at all. Could it be related to the hardware and OS? I'm running CM on a Lenovo ThinkStation with a quadcore processor and 8GB of RAM. The OS is OpenSuse 12.1. I've got CM checking mail from a POP server every five minutes with a couple of hundred e-mails a day coming in - many of them with attachments. I just don't see a freezing problem. Dan Arico -- One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them, One OS to bring them all, and in the Darkness bind them, In the land of Redmond, where the Sales Reps lie. From subscript at free.fr Wed Mar 28 15:56:53 2012 From: subscript at free.fr (wwp) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:56:53 +0200 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120328094426.31fb5fd5.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327115728.5cff75d1@mydesk> <20120328111957.78ccfbd0@shiva.selfip.org> <20120328094426.31fb5fd5.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> Message-ID: <20120328155653.714f63c5@monolith> Hello Dan, On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:44:26 -0400 Dan Arico wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:19:57 +0530 > "J. Bakshi" wrote: > > > At office I really don't have much time to allow it to complete it's > > operations during frozen state. Thunderbird is a better choice at > > office. And home I need to kill the CM when it doesn't come back from > > its frozen state :-( > > > > If CM can fix those issues, it will be surely at the 1st position. > > I've been following this thread and I'm puzzled. I don't see these > issues at all. Could it be related to the hardware and OS? > > I'm running CM on a Lenovo ThinkStation with a quadcore processor and > 8GB of RAM. The OS is OpenSuse 12.1. > > I've got CM checking mail from a POP server every five minutes with a > couple of hundred e-mails a day coming in - many of them with > attachments. I just don't see a freezing problem. To reproduce, you'd have to balance between a possibly high CPU load, network load (which can mean low bandwidth or high traffic) and improve your sensitivity to micro (or not) UI freezes. I'm glad for you that you can't ;-). What you can test: open a compose window right before a POP3 fetch is firing (and should download some stuff, not only chit-chat w/ server): press and hold a key, normally when the POP3 fetch is performing, you should notice that keypresses in compose window are more or less interrupted in compose window. If you're not then you're a lucky guy ;-). Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From info at troyvit.com Wed Mar 28 17:30:42 2012 From: info at troyvit.com (Troy Vitullo) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:30:42 -0600 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120328155653.714f63c5@monolith> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327115728.5cff75d1@mydesk> <20120328111957.78ccfbd0@shiva.selfip.org> <20120328094426.31fb5fd5.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20120328155653.714f63c5@monolith> Message-ID: <20120328093042.4f5c1cce@hrafn> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:56:53 +0200 wwp wrote: > > I've got CM checking mail from a POP server every five minutes with > > a couple of hundred e-mails a day coming in - many of them with > > attachments. I just don't see a freezing problem. > > To reproduce, you'd have to balance between a possibly high CPU load, > network load (which can mean low bandwidth or high traffic) and > improve your sensitivity to micro (or not) UI freezes. I'm glad for > you that you can't ;-). > > What you can test: open a compose window right before a POP3 fetch is > firing (and should download some stuff, not only chit-chat w/ server): > press and hold a key, normally when the POP3 fetch is performing, you > should notice that keypresses in compose window are more or less > interrupted in compose window. If you're not then you're a lucky > guy ;-). If that's all the issue is, wouldn't it be resolved by choosing an external editor in preferences? My biggest problem with claws in a corporate environment (aside from gmail's suckiness) is that I'm literally the only dude in our 80 person company who doesn't send html emails. While I'm fine with that, sometimes my replies to their html-only stuff mangles what they said. Someday I'm going to set up a template that allows me to write/edit html emails in my external editor. It'll take me an hour to write an email but it'll be a blast making some truly ugly content. Maybe the blink tag works... Troy From littlergirl at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 19:38:12 2012 From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:38:12 -0400 Subject: [Users] Color for unread messages? In-Reply-To: <20120327195949.75cd9133@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20120325204443.4427c2d9@mailhost.pdx.edu> <4f70d035.c83ae00a.0c69.5ca1@mx.google.com> <20120326162802.30cf3e1f@mailhost.pdx.edu> <20120327015210.3fab8ae8@sleipner.datanom.net> <4f71f8c2.c8bde00a.1565.5bbd@mx.google.com> <20120327195949.75cd9133@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <4f734c85.d321e00a.2633.3bb7@mx.google.com> Hey there, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > Little Girl wrote: > > Agreed, this will work. The only drawback is that it could > > conflict with other processing rules. When I was testing just > > now, all my read messages turned black, when they're normally a > > rainbow. ): > > > True, but since this was my only post precessing rule I did not > notice:-) When it comes to colors, I tend to go hog-wild. (: -- Little Girl There is no spoon. From brad at fineby.me.uk Wed Mar 28 17:57:55 2012 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:57:55 +0100 Subject: [Users] email sent to the Claws Mail mailing list In-Reply-To: <20120328063556.645ceb57@scorpio> References: <20120327185216.62c43b2d@thehugheslogcabin.net> <20120328063556.645ceb57@scorpio> Message-ID: <20120328165755.50da3046@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 06:35:56 -0400 Jerry wrote: Hello Jerry, > I might add that I believe that the problem exists on your end since no > one has ever made that accusation before. Claws-Mail is set to line > wrap at 72 characters. Your mails have always rendered correctly(0) here. That is, not munged into one huge line, but displayed nicely, with clear lines and paragraph breaks. (0) For a certain value of "correct". -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" People stare like they've seen a ghost Titanic (My Over) Reaction - 999 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From slitt at troubleshooters.com Wed Mar 28 20:56:03 2012 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:56:03 -0400 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash Message-ID: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> Hi all, I just found out that when replying to a post containing a double dash at the start of a line, only the content above the double dash is quoted. That's pretty normal, but Kmail had a way to override that behavior -- you highlight everything you want to reply and quote, and the highlighted material gets quoted. I tried that with Claws-Mail and it didn't work. So my question is, how do I override the tendency to delete the doubledash and everything below it, or if there's no way to do that, is there a config option to kill the deletion of doubledash and everything below? Thanks SteveT From laszlo.kertesz at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 21:21:02 2012 From: laszlo.kertesz at gmail.com (Kertesz Laszlo) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 22:21:02 +0300 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120328094426.31fb5fd5.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327115728.5cff75d1@mydesk> <20120328111957.78ccfbd0@shiva.selfip.org> <20120328094426.31fb5fd5.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> Message-ID: <20120328222102.74ca11c5@gmail.com> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:44:26 -0400 Dan Arico wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:19:57 +0530 > "J. Bakshi" wrote: > > > At office I really don't have much time to allow it to complete it's > > operations during frozen state. Thunderbird is a better choice at > > office. And home I need to kill the CM when it doesn't come back from > > its frozen state :-( > > > > If CM can fix those issues, it will be surely at the 1st position. > > I've been following this thread and I'm puzzled. I don't see these > issues at all. Could it be related to the hardware and OS? Happened to me both on my laptop (core 2 duo @2 GHz) and my desktop (AMD Athlon II x2 @ 3 GHz) with my gmail IMAP account (Debian Whezy). No other mail client (Tried Thunderbird, Seamonkey, Opera Mail, Zimbra desktop) does this so its clearly a CM only problem. On my laptop happened most times when it had intermittent network connection when checking for mail (i work in IT support, i do connectivity checks often and CM running in the background dont seem to like it). And i had to actually kill it and re launch it in these cases because even if i got back the network connection it wouldnt resume. This isnt the best time for debugging. I just want stuff to work without much fiddling when i open the lid of my laptop because i do it when i have work to do and email is part of it. > > I'm running CM on a Lenovo ThinkStation with a quadcore processor and > 8GB of RAM. The OS is OpenSuse 12.1. > > I've got CM checking mail from a POP server every five minutes with a > couple of hundred e-mails a day coming in - many of them with > attachments. I just don't see a freezing problem. > > Dan Arico > -- O zi buna, Kertesz Laszlo From brad at fineby.me.uk Wed Mar 28 21:28:22 2012 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 20:28:22 +0100 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> Message-ID: <20120328202822.4b0a7527@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:56:03 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: Hello Steve, > So my question is, how do I override the tendency to delete the > doubledash and everything below it, or if there's no way to do that, is As you're referring to the standard sig separator you should be aware that it's not double dash, it's dash, dash, space (-- ). > there a config option to kill the deletion of doubledash and everything Initially, I thought "nonsense" as I've selected stuff below the sig separator and quoted it without issue. However, what I hadn't done is tried selecting text that *straddles* the separator. That results in the behaviour you describe. I'd say this is a bug since, IMO, no MUA should ignore the user's selection of text, wherever it lies. Finally, there is an option (in Accounts prefs) for setting the sig separator, but that, AFAICT, has no bearing on the issue you describe. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Every single one of us Devil Inside - INXS -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll try to give it a look ! > Whoops, I should have mentioned that I'm using Claws-Mail 3.7.8. Perhaps later versions no longer exhibit this behavior. SteveT From CAE at eslrahc.com Thu Mar 29 00:48:02 2012 From: CAE at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:48:02 -0400 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> Message-ID: <20120328184802.3b3e4fb9@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 22:26:11 +0200 Colin Leroy wrote: > > I just found out that when replying to a post containing a double > > dash at the start of a line, only the content above the double dash > > is quoted. That's pretty normal, but Kmail had a way to override > > that behavior -- you highlight everything you want to reply and > > quote, and the highlighted material gets quoted. > > > > I tried that with Claws-Mail and it didn't work. > > Hmm, this is a regression. I'll try to give it a look ! > > -- > Colin Do not recall when it was implemented but; Configuration/Preferences/Templates/Reply replace %q with %Q Charles -- Bubble Memory, n.: A derogatory term, usually referring to a person's intelligence. See also "vacuum tube". ---------------------- Mageia release 2 (Cauldron) for x86_64$ On SuperSize....http://www.eslrahc.com Registered Linux user #182463 3.3.0-tmb-server-1.mga2 x86_64 ---------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From slitt at troubleshooters.com Thu Mar 29 01:40:03 2012 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:40:03 -0400 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> Message-ID: <20120328194003.5a233f99@mydesk> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:22:36 +0200 Ricardo Mones wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 22:26:11 +0200 > Colin Leroy wrote: > > > > I just found out that when replying to a post containing a double > > > dash at the start of a line, only the content above the double > > > dash is quoted. That's pretty normal, but Kmail had a way to > > > override that behavior -- you highlight everything you want to > > > reply and quote, and the highlighted material gets quoted. > > > > > > I tried that with Claws-Mail and it didn't work. > > > > Hmm, this is a regression. I'll try to give it a look ! > > > > -- > > Colin > > FWIW, it works here... if there was a regression it's already > fixed :) What version are you using, and on what operating system? Thanks SteveT From slitt at troubleshooters.com Thu Mar 29 01:51:42 2012 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:51:42 -0400 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120328184802.3b3e4fb9@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120328184802.3b3e4fb9@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> Message-ID: <20120328195142.441ffc8e@mydesk> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:48:02 -0400 Charles A Edwards wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 22:26:11 +0200 > Colin Leroy wrote: > > > > I just found out that when replying to a post containing a double > > > dash at the start of a line, only the content above the double > > > dash is quoted. That's pretty normal, but Kmail had a way to > > > override that behavior -- you highlight everything you want to > > > reply and quote, and the highlighted material gets quoted. > > > > > > I tried that with Claws-Mail and it didn't work. > > > > Hmm, this is a regression. I'll try to give it a look ! > > > > -- > > Colin > > > Do not recall when it was implemented but; > > Configuration/Preferences/Templates/Reply > > replace %q with %Q U D Man Charles! I did just what you said and replaced the %q with %Q, and now reply treats the dash dash space just like any other line, which is exactly what I want. In a world where so many people top-post, treating dash dash space like removes all context from way too many emails. I'm good enough with a mouse to remove what's not relevant, so I'm ecstatic with having dash dash space do nothing at all. By the way, one other thing I love about Claws-Mail is it doesn't automatically put that lame dash dash space before my sig like Kmail used to. I always had to delete it before sending, because I want my sig visible in replies, always assuming the person doing the replying wants to keep it there. Thanks! SteveT From joydeep at infoservices.in Thu Mar 29 07:17:51 2012 From: joydeep at infoservices.in (J. Bakshi ( জয়দীপ বকসী )) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:47:51 +0530 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120328222102.74ca11c5@gmail.com> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327115728.5cff75d1@mydesk> <20120328111957.78ccfbd0@shiva.selfip.org> <20120328094426.31fb5fd5.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20120328222102.74ca11c5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20120329104751.736668b5@shiva.selfip.org> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 22:21:02 +0300 Kertesz Laszlo wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:44:26 -0400 > Dan Arico wrote: > > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:19:57 +0530 > > "J. Bakshi" wrote: > > > > > At office I really don't have much time to allow it to complete it's > > > operations during frozen state. Thunderbird is a better choice at > > > office. And home I need to kill the CM when it doesn't come back from > > > its frozen state :-( > > > > > > If CM can fix those issues, it will be surely at the 1st position. > > > > I've been following this thread and I'm puzzled. I don't see these > > issues at all. Could it be related to the hardware and OS? > > Happened to me both on my laptop (core 2 duo @2 GHz) and my desktop (AMD Athlon II x2 @ 3 GHz) with my gmail IMAP account (Debian Whezy). > No other mail client (Tried Thunderbird, Seamonkey, Opera Mail, Zimbra desktop) does this so its clearly a CM only problem. > On my laptop happened most times when it had intermittent network connection when checking for mail (i work in IT support, i do connectivity checks often and CM running in the background dont seem to like it). > > And i had to actually kill it and re launch it in these cases because even if i got back the network connection it wouldnt resume. This isnt the best time for debugging. I just want stuff to work without much fiddling when i open the lid of my laptop because i do it when i have work to do and email is part of it. > Hello Kertesz, I fell your issue as I am facing exactly the same. Definitely killing the CM is not a good practice and it does have its side effect; but there is no other alternative !!! As a long time CM users; I don't think CM has been designed for a box with 8 GB or so RAM and quad-core processor. I have 3 GB RAM with i5 CPU and it should be enough for a mail client. I mean there is no other mail client which have such problem with standard H/W. Even I could run thunderbird with all my account as configured in CM at a lower end PC without any hitch. Surely CM is too good in searching, fastness etc.... but the discussed problem keep it behind the other mail client. As a CM user sine long, I expect we will get the fixed in future release. Thanks From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Mar 29 08:14:47 2012 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 07:14:47 +0100 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120328194003.5a233f99@mydesk> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120328194003.5a233f99@mydesk> Message-ID: <20120329071447.3ba31ef5@thewildbeast> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:40:03 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > What version are you using, and on what operating system? Use /View/Show all headers and look at the X-Mailer header. with regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk Thu Mar 29 08:17:24 2012 From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 07:17:24 +0100 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120329104751.736668b5@shiva.selfip.org> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327115728.5cff75d1@mydesk> <20120328111957.78ccfbd0@shiva.selfip.org> <20120328094426.31fb5fd5.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20120328222102.74ca11c5@gmail.com> <20120329104751.736668b5@shiva.selfip.org> Message-ID: <20120329071724.615aa1e0@thewildbeast> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:47:51 +0530 "J. Bakshi" wrote: > I don't think CM has been designed for a box with 8 GB or so RAM and > quad-core processor. I have 3 GB RAM with i5 CPU and it should be > enough for a mail client. It will run on a lot lower spec machine. e.g. nokia n800, 320MHz processor, 128MB of RAM, and less. It runs fast on the n800. with regards Paul -- It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, but to a collector it is worth a fortune From colin at colino.net Thu Mar 29 09:07:09 2012 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:07:09 +0200 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> Message-ID: <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:22:36 +0200, Ricardo Mones wrote: > FWIW, it works here... if there was a regression it's already > fixed :) Interesting ! What's your reply template ? -- Colin From ricardo at mones.org Thu Mar 29 11:04:49 2012 From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 11:04:49 +0200 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> Message-ID: <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:07:09 +0200 Colin Leroy wrote: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:22:36 +0200, Ricardo Mones > wrote: > > > FWIW, it works here... if there was a regression it's already > > fixed :) > > Interesting ! What's your reply template ? On %d %f wrote: %Q (No surprise, I guess) -- Ricardo Mones ~ Never send a human to do a machine's job. Agent Smith -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jerry at seibercom.net Thu Mar 29 12:17:45 2012 From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 06:17:45 -0400 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120328195142.441ffc8e@mydesk> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120328184802.3b3e4fb9@SuperSize.eslrahc.com> <20120328195142.441ffc8e@mydesk> Message-ID: <20120329061745.7648359a@scorpio> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:51:42 -0400 Steve Litt articulated: > By the way, one other thing I love about Claws-Mail is it doesn't > automatically put that lame dash dash space before my sig like Kmail > used to. I always had to delete it before sending, because I want my > sig visible in replies, always assuming the person doing the replying > wants to keep it there. That is exactly why I do want a "sig delimiter" inserted into the message prior to posting. The last author's name is, or should be assuming his MUA is configured correctly, clearly shown at the top of the post as demonstrated here. If the reply is attached to a properly trimmed post; i.e. removal of all superfluous garbage, there would be no signature included anyway. Unfortunately, all too many posters lack the basic skills to properly edit a post/reply and end up sending a multi page document with a one line reply. Now that is seriously pathetic. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From brad at fineby.me.uk Thu Mar 29 12:20:48 2012 From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 11:20:48 +0100 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> Message-ID: <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 11:04:49 +0200 Ricardo Mones wrote: Hello Ricardo, > On %d > %f wrote: > > %Q > > (No surprise, I guess) The problem is that, with that template, the sig is *always* quoted. Personally, I don't wish to do that. On occasion, I /might/ wish to be able to selectively quote across the sig separator. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From slitt at troubleshooters.com Thu Mar 29 20:58:27 2012 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:58:27 -0400 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> Message-ID: <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 11:20:48 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 11:04:49 +0200 > Ricardo Mones wrote: > > Hello Ricardo, > > > On %d > > %f wrote: > > > > %Q > > > > (No surprise, I guess) > > The problem is that, with that template, the sig is *always* quoted. > Personally, I don't wish to do that. > > On occasion, I /might/ wish to be able to selectively quote across the > sig separator. Currently, %q (as opposed to %Q) in the template won't > allow that. Hi Brad, What I do is just delete selectively as needed. For instance, I deleted your sig in the context material. It took about 1/2 second to select the text, and 1/2 second to press the delete key. There's no legitimate automatic way to do it, because with different emails you want to delete different stuff. This becomes especially thorny with top-posters. SteveT From jerry at seibercom.net Thu Mar 29 21:18:15 2012 From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:18:15 -0400 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> Message-ID: <20120329151815.5302234a@scorpio> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:58:27 -0400 Steve Litt articulated: > There's no legitimate automatic way to do it, because with different > emails you want to delete different stuff. This becomes especially > thorny with top-posters. Now if we could just devise a way to delete "Top Posters". -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From laszlo.kertesz at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 22:05:18 2012 From: laszlo.kertesz at gmail.com (Kertesz Laszlo) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:05:18 +0300 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120329104751.736668b5@shiva.selfip.org> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327115728.5cff75d1@mydesk> <20120328111957.78ccfbd0@shiva.selfip.org> <20120328094426.31fb5fd5.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20120328222102.74ca11c5@gmail.com> <20120329104751.736668b5@shiva.selfip.org> Message-ID: <20120329230518.08980a77@gmail.com> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:47:51 +0530 "J. Bakshi" wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 22:21:02 +0300 > Kertesz Laszlo wrote: > > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:44:26 -0400 > > Dan Arico wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:19:57 +0530 > > > "J. Bakshi" wrote: > > > > > > > At office I really don't have much time to allow it to complete it's > > > > operations during frozen state. Thunderbird is a better choice at > > > > office. And home I need to kill the CM when it doesn't come back from > > > > its frozen state :-( > > > > > > > > If CM can fix those issues, it will be surely at the 1st position. > > > > > > I've been following this thread and I'm puzzled. I don't see these > > > issues at all. Could it be related to the hardware and OS? > > > > Happened to me both on my laptop (core 2 duo @2 GHz) and my desktop (AMD Athlon II x2 @ 3 GHz) with my gmail IMAP account (Debian Whezy). > > No other mail client (Tried Thunderbird, Seamonkey, Opera Mail, Zimbra desktop) does this so its clearly a CM only problem. > > On my laptop happened most times when it had intermittent network connection when checking for mail (i work in IT support, i do connectivity checks often and CM running in the background dont seem to like it). > > > > And i had to actually kill it and re launch it in these cases because even if i got back the network connection it wouldnt resume. This isnt the best time for debugging. I just want stuff to work without much fiddling when i open the lid of my laptop because i do it when i have work to do and email is part of it. > > > > Hello Kertesz, > > I fell your issue as I am facing exactly the same. Definitely killing the CM is not a good practice and > it does have its side effect; but there is no other alternative !!! > > As a long time CM users; I don't think CM has been designed for a box with 8 GB or so RAM and > quad-core processor. I have 3 GB RAM with i5 CPU and it should be enough for a mail client. I mean > there is no other mail client which have such problem with standard H/W. Even I could run thunderbird > with all my account as configured in CM at a lower end PC without any hitch. The issue is not linked to processing power per se, it is about the inherent structure of CM - ie in this case the scanning process "taking over" the UI and certain things are locked until it finishes (if). Other mail clients can do this gracefully (meaning they dont hang if the process is interrupted) and fully in background, they dont lock features while doing so. The program runs well on any hardware, i use it just because its swiftness and low memory usage. It works quite well on my desktop where it has a stable connection if i dont start clicking left and right when it scans for mail. And from what i have read here this issue is happening with imap accounts with lots of folders. POP accounts and newsgroup accounts are not that affected because the folder you open are locally stored and even if they are refreshed, it is done instantly, whereas in the case of imap folders if it scans for mail/ as soon as you open it CM does a refresh and that takes a while because this uses the network connection. > > Surely CM is too good in searching, fastness etc.... but the discussed problem keep it behind > the other mail client. As a CM user sine long, I expect we will get the fixed in future release. > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users at lists.claws-mail.org > http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users -- O zi buna, Kertesz Laszlo From berndth at gmx.de Thu Mar 29 22:21:00 2012 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 22:21:00 +0200 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120327183402.4a4846e8@scorpio> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327114144.2efb9976@moppi.kel.wh.local> <20120327134305.7a3910a5@gmail.com> <20120327162502.37aebb86@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327084550.3565e8c9@pfortin.com> <20120327154448.3113c4fa@monolith> <20120327102636.4d6f9448@pfortin.com> <20120327221924.5434ca6c@wodan> <20120327183402.4a4846e8@scorpio> Message-ID: <20120329222100.25dd2c18@wodan> On Di, 27.03.2012 18:34, Jerry wrote: >> Multi-threading is not a feature, it's an implementation detail. The >> feature would be not to block the UI when doing potentially long >> operations - threading is one possible solution, but most likely not >> even a good one (if it requires direct fiddling with threads in Claws >> Mail's code base). > >If you implement true multi-threading into an application, it is in fact >a feature of the application. No, it's not. We're talking about an end-user-application, and the end-user doesn't care a bit about threads. He cares about non-blocking UI, operations running in the background, stuff being faster because it's done in parallel, ... These are features. Application-space threads are a tool to provide these features, but not the only possibility, and in fact a rather bad one in this case. >To so >so, and do it correctly, would probably require a complete rewrite of >Claws-Mail Surely not a complete rewrite, but "true multi-threading" would indeed be very hard to get right. That's why it's not a suitable tool. Holger From pf at pfortin.com Thu Mar 29 22:24:07 2012 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:24:07 -0400 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120329071724.615aa1e0@thewildbeast> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327115728.5cff75d1@mydesk> <20120328111957.78ccfbd0@shiva.selfip.org> <20120328094426.31fb5fd5.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20120328222102.74ca11c5@gmail.com> <20120329104751.736668b5@shiva.selfip.org> <20120329071724.615aa1e0@thewildbeast> Message-ID: <20120329162407.2be2d3fd@pfortin.com> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 07:17:24 +0100 Paul wrote: >It will run on a lot lower spec machine. e.g. nokia n800, 320MHz >processor, 128MB of RAM, and less. It runs fast on the n800. Just got an Android phone... any chance of CM on that platform? Thanks for all the great work Paul, Colin, et al! Pierre From berndth at gmx.de Thu Mar 29 22:27:59 2012 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 22:27:59 +0200 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120328111957.78ccfbd0@shiva.selfip.org> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327115728.5cff75d1@mydesk> <20120328111957.78ccfbd0@shiva.selfip.org> Message-ID: <20120329222759.25724af4@wodan> On Mi, 28.03.2012 11:19, J. Bakshi wrote: >But when we like to introduce S/W to corporate sector; then rather than the >personal liking; the usability to that sector playing the prime role. That's wishful thinking (or, to put it differently: If swiftness and responsiveness are the primary factors in your company, you're lucky off). When I think about "acceptance in corporate", other things cross my mind, such as MS Exchange/MAPI, real PIM functionality (more blown up addressbook and calendar), addressbook sync to the manager's mobile phone, etc. I really doubt the occasional hang makes a difference in cooperate acceptance. Holger From berndth at gmx.de Thu Mar 29 22:30:25 2012 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 22:30:25 +0200 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120329162407.2be2d3fd@pfortin.com> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327115728.5cff75d1@mydesk> <20120328111957.78ccfbd0@shiva.selfip.org> <20120328094426.31fb5fd5.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20120328222102.74ca11c5@gmail.com> <20120329104751.736668b5@shiva.selfip.org> <20120329071724.615aa1e0@thewildbeast> <20120329162407.2be2d3fd@pfortin.com> Message-ID: <20120329223025.0a8d6df9@wodan> On Do, 29.03.2012 16:24, Pierre Fortin wrote: >Just got an Android phone... any chance of CM on that platform? You should ask Alfons how the C# port is comming along! Holger From colin at colino.net Thu Mar 29 22:33:26 2012 From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 22:33:26 +0200 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120329151815.5302234a@scorpio> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> <20120329151815.5302234a@scorpio> Message-ID: <20120329223326.00ec4382@marv> On 29 March 2012 at 15h18, Jerry wrote: Hi, > > There's no legitimate automatic way to do it, because with different > > emails you want to delete different stuff. This becomes especially > > thorny with top-posters. > > Now if we could just devise a way to delete "Top Posters". 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I use to have an old DOS program (remember DOS). It would reverse an entire sentence or paragraph; i.e "Three, two, one" became eno ,owt ,eerhT". I used it to reply to my "Top Posting" friends. When they complained my response made no sense, I simply pointed out it made as much sense as their "Top Posting". Alas, I have not used that program in years. I don't think it would run unless I used the Windows emulation feature. In any case, it is no longer worth the effort. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I used it to reply to my "Top Posting" friends. When > they complained my response made no sense, I simply pointed out it > made as much sense as their "Top Posting". Alas, I have not used that > program in years. I don't think it would run unless I used the Windows > emulation feature. In any case, it is no longer worth the effort. It's probably a one liner with a regexp. :-) -- Charles Curley /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Looking for fine software \ / Respect for open standards and/or writing? X No HTML/RTF in email http://www.charlescurley.com / \ No M$ Word docs in email Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 190 bytes Desc: not available URL: From iwkse at claws-mail.org Fri Mar 30 01:44:30 2012 From: iwkse at claws-mail.org (Salvatore De Paolis) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 01:44:30 +0200 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120329173716.6f4dfd04@yendi> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> <20120329151815.5302234a@scorpio> <20120329223326.00ec4382@marv> <20120329182326.4b54de19@scorpio> <20120329173716.6f4dfd04@yendi> Message-ID: <20120330014430.18b0e780@net24.it> Hi Charles, On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:37:16 -0600 Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 18:23:26 -0400 > Jerry wrote: > > > I use to have an old DOS program (remember DOS). It would reverse an > > entire sentence or paragraph; i.e "Three, two, one" became > > eno ,owt ,eerhT". I used it to reply to my "Top Posting" friends. When > > they complained my response made no sense, I simply pointed out it > > made as much sense as their "Top Posting". Alas, I have not used that > > program in years. I don't think it would run unless I used the Windows > > emulation feature. In any case, it is no longer worth the effort. > > It's probably a one liner with a regexp. :-) > even less :) $ rev <<< "Three, two, one" -- Salvatore -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From slitt at troubleshooters.com Fri Mar 30 01:48:09 2012 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:48:09 -0400 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120329182326.4b54de19@scorpio> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> <20120329151815.5302234a@scorpio> <20120329223326.00ec4382@marv> <20120329182326.4b54de19@scorpio> Message-ID: <20120329194809.0af882ab@mydesk> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 18:23:26 -0400 Jerry wrote: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 22:33:26 +0200 > Colin Leroy articulated: > > > At work, I've given up that fight long ago : grew tired of confused > > "your reply seems empty ?" replies ! :) > > In one respect, I absolutely agree. "You can't fix stupid" as the > saying goes. > > I use to have an old DOS program (remember DOS). It would reverse an > entire sentence or paragraph; i.e "Three, two, one" became > eno ,owt ,eerhT". I used it to reply to my "Top Posting" friends. When > they complained my response made no sense, I simply pointed out it > made as much sense as their "Top Posting". Alas, I have not used that > program in years. I don't think it would run unless I used the Windows > emulation feature. In any case, it is no longer worth the effort. Out-standing! Hey Jerry, if you'll use it like you used it before, I'll write that program in Python so you can use it on Windows, Mac and Linux. If you're interested, please give me the specs (in other words, tell me exactly how the program worked), and I'll give you the program. I'll license it free software so anyone can use it. I already have a bunch of friends who would use such a thing. Thanks SteveT From littlergirl at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 02:14:31 2012 From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:14:31 -0400 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120329182326.4b54de19@scorpio> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> <20120329151815.5302234a@scorpio> <20120329223326.00ec4382@marv> <20120329182326.4b54de19@scorpio> Message-ID: <4f74fae8.0c60e00a.300d.64a9@mx.google.com> Hey there, Jerry wrote: > I use to have an old DOS program (remember DOS). It would reverse an > entire sentence or paragraph; i.e "Three, two, one" became > eno ,owt ,eerhT". I used it to reply to my "Top Posting" friends. > When they complained my response made no sense, I simply pointed > out it made as much sense as their "Top Posting". Alas, I have not > used that program in years. I don't think it would run unless I > used the Windows emulation feature. In any case, it is no longer > worth the effort. A quick Bash command in a terminal will do it: echo "hello world" | rev (: -- Little Girl There is no spoon. From pf at pfortin.com Fri Mar 30 02:27:24 2012 From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:27:24 -0400 Subject: [Users] Only issue prevent claws-mail to be accepted in corporate In-Reply-To: <20120329223025.0a8d6df9@wodan> References: <20120327121423.6af6e13c@shiva.selfip.org> <20120327115728.5cff75d1@mydesk> <20120328111957.78ccfbd0@shiva.selfip.org> <20120328094426.31fb5fd5.dan_arico@aricosystems.com> <20120328222102.74ca11c5@gmail.com> <20120329104751.736668b5@shiva.selfip.org> <20120329071724.615aa1e0@thewildbeast> <20120329162407.2be2d3fd@pfortin.com> <20120329223025.0a8d6df9@wodan> Message-ID: <20120329202724.7af532af@pfortin.com> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 22:30:25 +0200 Holger Berndt wrote: >>Just got an Android phone... any chance of CM on that platform? > >You should ask Alfons how the C# port is comming along! Is Alfons lurking here? Haven't seen a post from him in over 7 years... Pierre From sylpheed at 911networks.com Fri Mar 30 03:08:46 2012 From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 18:08:46 -0700 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <4f74fae8.0c60e00a.300d.64a9@mx.google.com> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> <20120329151815.5302234a@scorpio> <20120329223326.00ec4382@marv> <20120329182326.4b54de19@scorpio> <4f74fae8.0c60e00a.300d.64a9@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <20120329180846.09719320@from-theboss.911networks.com> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:14:31 -0400 Little Girl wrote: >A quick Bash command in a terminal will do it: > >echo "hello world" | rev sknahT .ti ekil I ,woN -- Thanks http://www.911networks.com When the network has to work From jerry at seibercom.net Fri Mar 30 12:53:33 2012 From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 06:53:33 -0400 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <4f74fae8.0c60e00a.300d.64a9@mx.google.com> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> <20120329151815.5302234a@scorpio> <20120329223326.00ec4382@marv> <20120329182326.4b54de19@scorpio> <4f74fae8.0c60e00a.300d.64a9@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <20120330065333.7a3bc6a9@scorpio> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:14:31 -0400 Little Girl articulated: > Hey there, > > Jerry wrote: > > > I use to have an old DOS program (remember DOS). It would reverse an > > entire sentence or paragraph; i.e "Three, two, one" became > > eno ,owt ,eerhT". I used it to reply to my "Top Posting" friends. > > When they complained my response made no sense, I simply pointed > > out it made as much sense as their "Top Posting". Alas, I have not > > used that program in years. I don't think it would run unless I > > used the Windows emulation feature. In any case, it is no longer > > worth the effort. > > A quick Bash command in a terminal will do it: > > echo "hello world" | rev > > (: > Thanks Little Girl. I had not thought of that idea before. Honestly, I had never used the "rev" command before. .erofeb dnammoc ver eht desu reven dah I ,yltsenoH .erofeb aedi taht fo thguoht ton dah I .lriG elttiL sknahT That works great. Now I can have some fun with those friggin Top Posters. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From berndth at gmx.de Fri Mar 30 14:56:29 2012 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:56:29 +0200 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120329182326.4b54de19@scorpio> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> <20120329151815.5302234a@scorpio> <20120329223326.00ec4382@marv> <20120329182326.4b54de19@scorpio> Message-ID: <20120330145629.31cb029e@wodan> On Do, 29.03.2012 18:23, Jerry wrote: >> At work, I've given up that fight long ago : grew tired of confused >> "your reply seems empty ?" replies ! :) > >In one respect, I absolutely agree. "You can't fix stupid" as the >saying goes. Personally, I find the self-appointed email police far more annoying than top-posters. Especially in business branches where top-posting is actually the established way to do things. Holger From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Fri Mar 30 14:59:08 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:59:08 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2637] New: pdf_viewer won't work with poppler > 0.17 Message-ID: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2637 Summary: pdf_viewer won't work with poppler > 0.17 Product: Claws Mail Version: CVS Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P3 Component: Plugins AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org ReportedBy: marcel at hsdev.com Compiler warning: warning: implicit declaration of function 'poppler_page_render_to_pixbuf' Plugin won't load the function 'poppler_page_render_to_pixbuf' was removed in versions > 0.17 Ubuntu precise pangolin ships with popplier 0.18.x -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From jerry at seibercom.net Fri Mar 30 16:01:39 2012 From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 10:01:39 -0400 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120330145629.31cb029e@wodan> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> <20120329151815.5302234a@scorpio> <20120329223326.00ec4382@marv> <20120329182326.4b54de19@scorpio> <20120330145629.31cb029e@wodan> Message-ID: <20120330100139.413261dc@scorpio> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:56:29 +0200 Holger Berndt articulated: > On Do, 29.03.2012 18:23, Jerry wrote: > > >> At work, I've given up that fight long ago : grew tired of confused > >> "your reply seems empty ?" replies ! :) > > > >In one respect, I absolutely agree. "You can't fix stupid" as the > >saying goes. > > Personally, I find the self-appointed email police far more annoying > than top-posters. Especially in business branches where top-posting is > actually the established way to do things. That sort if thinking reminds me of the Union Army (1860-65) and the established medical practices of the time. The standard treatment for an STD was to administer mercury. It had a two-fold effect. The patients administered the mercury rarely died of the STD; however, a very large percentage did die from the supposed cure (mercury). Eventually someone discovered that the cure was worse than the disease. Hence, better treatments were introduced. The same concept can be applied to "Top Posters". Just because a segment of the population is doing something does not make it right. Personally, when replying to a "Top Posted" reply, I either correct the reply and continue on or I delete the entire nonsense entirely and simply post my reply. Either works for me and I could give a rat's ass if the "Top Poster" gets pissed off. Then again, that is just me. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Ignorance is never out of style. It was in fashion yesterday, it is the rage today, and it will set the pace tomorrow. Franklin K. Dane From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Fri Mar 30 18:30:21 2012 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:30:21 +0100 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120330145629.31cb029e@wodan> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> <20120329151815.5302234a@scorpio> <20120329223326.00ec4382@marv> <20120329182326.4b54de19@scorpio> <20120330145629.31cb029e@wodan> Message-ID: <20120330173021.000001ce@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:56:29 +0200 Holger Berndt wrote: > Especially in business branches where top-posting is > actually the established way to do things. Well it wasn't the established way in the early days of business email, that only happened when Microsoft foisted their internal mail system on the outside world. -- Brian Morrison From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Mar 30 18:32:41 2012 From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (richard) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:32:41 +0100 Subject: [Users] imap /smtp server problems Message-ID: <20120330173241.4bed5aa5@lap.g8jvm.com> Hi, I'm trying to move away from my ISPs version of gmail as on all mailing list I subscribe to the copy of my first posting is blocked. So I never see on the list what I send until someone answers. I've signed up with simplymail solutions and its a MS exchange 2010 server, YUK !! The imap server is imap.exchange.simplyms.com 993, smpt.exchange.simplyms.com 587 watching the log file while fetching I see absolutely nothing, no activity. when trying to send I get:- * Account 'Account6-g8jvm': Connecting to SMTP server: smtp.exchange.simplyms.com ... *** Error occurred while sending the message. [17:31:03] IMAP4- [fetching flags...] [17:31:03] IMAP4> 80 UID FETCH 1:* (FLAGS UID) [17:31:04] IMAP4< * 1 FETCH (UID 861 FLAGS (\Seen)) [17:31:04] IMAP4< 80 OK Success SSL is set on ideas ??? thanks -- -- Best wishes / 73 Richard Bown e-mail: richard at g8jvm.com or richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk nil carborundum a illegitemis ################################################################################## Ham Call G8JVM . OS Fedora FC16 x86_64 on a Dell Insiron N5030 laptop Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W ( degs mins ) QRV HF + VHF Microwave 23 cms:140W,13 cms:100W,6 cms:10W & 3 cms:5W ################################################################################## From berndth at gmx.de Fri Mar 30 18:46:24 2012 From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:46:24 +0200 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120330173021.000001ce@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> <20120329151815.5302234a@scorpio> <20120329223326.00ec4382@marv> <20120329182326.4b54de19@scorpio> <20120330145629.31cb029e@wodan> <20120330173021.000001ce@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: <20120330184624.53464338@wodan> On Fr, 30.03.2012 17:30, Brian Morrison wrote: >Well it wasn't the established way in the early days of business email, >that only happened when Microsoft foisted their internal mail system on >the outside world. Neither were so "stupid" things like MIME. Ouch. Holger From bdm at fenrir.org.uk Fri Mar 30 18:55:30 2012 From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:55:30 +0100 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120330184624.53464338@wodan> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> <20120329151815.5302234a@scorpio> <20120329223326.00ec4382@marv> <20120329182326.4b54de19@scorpio> <20120330145629.31cb029e@wodan> <20120330173021.000001ce@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20120330184624.53464338@wodan> Message-ID: <20120330175530.00001842@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:46:24 +0200 Holger Berndt wrote: > On Fr, 30.03.2012 17:30, Brian Morrison wrote: > > >Well it wasn't the established way in the early days of business > >email, that only happened when Microsoft foisted their internal mail > >system on the outside world. > > Neither were so "stupid" things like MIME. Ouch. UUencode worked for me ;-) -- Brian Morrison From mir at miras.org Fri Mar 30 19:05:50 2012 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 19:05:50 +0200 Subject: [Users] imap /smtp server problems In-Reply-To: <20120330173241.4bed5aa5@lap.g8jvm.com> References: <20120330173241.4bed5aa5@lap.g8jvm.com> Message-ID: <20120330190550.075432a7@sleipner.datanom.net> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:32:41 +0100 richard wrote: > > SSL is set on > Under the SMTP options in SSL you must use STARTTLS instead of SSL. SSL must only be used for the IMAP option. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From littlergirl at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 20:22:51 2012 From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:22:51 -0400 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120330065333.7a3bc6a9@scorpio> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> <20120329151815.5302234a@scorpio> <20120329223326.00ec4382@marv> <20120329182326.4b54de19@scorpio> <4f74fae8.0c60e00a.300d.64a9@mx.google.com> <20120330065333.7a3bc6a9@scorpio> Message-ID: <4f75f9fc.c7c1e00a.2c88.fffff325@mx.google.com> Hey there, Jerry wrote: > Little Girl articulated: > > echo "hello world" | rev > > (: > Thanks Little Girl. I had not thought of that idea before. > Honestly, I had never used the "rev" command before. Any time. It wasn't until I had already sent it, though, that I saw Salvatore De Paolis' reply to this thread: http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2012-March/001989.html It has an even cooler way of doing it by using a here string instead of echo and a pipe: rev <<< "hello world" > .erofeb dnammoc ver eht desu reven dah I ,yltsenoH .erofeb aedi > taht fo thguoht ton dah I .lriG elttiL sknahT > That works great. Now I can have some fun with those friggin Top > Posters. :( .meht ot od uoy revetahw evresed ll'yehT -- Little Girl There is no spoon. From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Mar 30 20:33:40 2012 From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (richard) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 19:33:40 +0100 Subject: [Users] imap /smtp server problems In-Reply-To: <20120330190550.075432a7@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20120330173241.4bed5aa5@lap.g8jvm.com> <20120330190550.075432a7@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20120330193340.0c7d3c17@lap.g8jvm.com> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 19:05:50 +0200 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:32:41 +0100 > richard wrote: > > > > > SSL is set on > > > Under the SMTP options in SSL you must use STARTTLS instead of SSL. > SSL must only be used for the IMAP option. > Thanks that got the sending sorted , now just the receive :( -- -- Best wishes / 73 Richard Bown e-mail: richard at g8jvm.com or richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk nil carborundum a illegitemis ################################################################################## Ham Call G8JVM . OS Fedora FC16 x86_64 on a Dell Insiron N5030 laptop Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W ( degs mins ) QRV HF + VHF Microwave 23 cms:140W,13 cms:100W,6 cms:10W & 3 cms:5W ################################################################################## From mir at miras.org Fri Mar 30 21:27:07 2012 From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:27:07 +0200 Subject: [Users] imap /smtp server problems In-Reply-To: <20120330193340.0c7d3c17@lap.g8jvm.com> References: <20120330173241.4bed5aa5@lap.g8jvm.com> <20120330190550.075432a7@sleipner.datanom.net> <20120330193340.0c7d3c17@lap.g8jvm.com> Message-ID: <20120330212707.6ce71b82@sleipner.datanom.net> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 19:33:40 +0100 richard wrote: > > Thanks that got the sending sorted , now just the receive :( > Have you followed these instruction? http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Connecting_to_MS_Exchange -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From littlergirl at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 21:28:44 2012 From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:28:44 -0400 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120329180846.09719320@from-theboss.911networks.com> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> <20120329151815.5302234a@scorpio> <20120329223326.00ec4382@marv> <20120329182326.4b54de19@scorpio> <4f74fae8.0c60e00a.300d.64a9@mx.google.com> <20120329180846.09719320@from-theboss.911networks.com> Message-ID: <4f76096d.543be00a.1705.0efa@mx.google.com> Hey there, sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote: > Little Girl wrote: > >A quick Bash command in a terminal will do it: > >echo "hello world" | rev > sknahT .ti ekil I ,woN :( .emit ynA -- Little Girl There is no spoon. From littlergirl at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 21:39:56 2012 From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:39:56 -0400 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120330175530.00001842@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> <20120329151815.5302234a@scorpio> <20120329223326.00ec4382@marv> <20120329182326.4b54de19@scorpio> <20120330145629.31cb029e@wodan> <20120330173021.000001ce@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> <20120330184624.53464338@wodan> <20120330175530.00001842@surtees.fenrir.org.uk> Message-ID: <4f760c0d.496ae00a.59c8.0bb8@mx.google.com> Hey there, Brian Morrison wrote: > Holger Berndt wrote: > > Brian Morrison wrote: > > >Well it wasn't the established way in the early days of business > > >email, that only happened when Microsoft foisted their internal > > >mail system on the outside world. > > Neither were so "stupid" things like MIME. Ouch. > UUencode worked for me ;-) Harsh, brutal, mean, but oh, that is too cool. (: -- Little Girl There is no spoon. From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Mar 30 23:02:16 2012 From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (richard) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 22:02:16 +0100 Subject: [Users] imap /smtp server problems In-Reply-To: <20120330212707.6ce71b82@sleipner.datanom.net> References: <20120330173241.4bed5aa5@lap.g8jvm.com> <20120330190550.075432a7@sleipner.datanom.net> <20120330193340.0c7d3c17@lap.g8jvm.com> <20120330212707.6ce71b82@sleipner.datanom.net> Message-ID: <20120330220216.2de8a8ae@lap.g8jvm.com> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:27:07 +0200 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 19:33:40 +0100 > richard wrote: > > > > > Thanks that got the sending sorted , now just the receive :( > > > Have you followed these instruction? > http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Connecting_to_MS_Exchange > Hi, No I hadn't but thats what I ended up with, I'm waiting for a dummy domain to be added to for me to forward to now. -- -- Best wishes / 73 Richard Bown e-mail: richard at g8jvm.com or richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk nil carborundum a illegitemis ################################################################################## Ham Call G8JVM . OS Fedora FC16 x86_64 on a Dell Insiron N5030 laptop Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W ( degs mins ) QRV HF + VHF Microwave 23 cms:140W,13 cms:100W,6 cms:10W & 3 cms:5W ################################################################################## From fragabr at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 01:38:07 2012 From: fragabr at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?RMOibmllbA==?= Fraga) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:38:07 -0300 Subject: [Users] Fancy Plugin: text to link? References: <20120321072750.2369b4b1@thewildbeast> Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 07:27:50 +0000 Paul wrote: > Aren't these message properly formatted, (i.e. multipart/alternative) > and have a similar plain part? If they do, then switch to the plain > part, Claws already makes text links clickable. Thanks Paul. This is a possible workaround. -- Linux 3.3.0: Saber-toothed Squirrel http://www.youtube.com/DanielFragaBR From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Mar 31 03:12:04 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 03:12:04 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2637] pdf_viewer won't work with poppler > 0.17 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120331011204.053AA8541C@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2637 Salvatore De Paolis changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #1 from Salvatore De Paolis 2012-03-31 03:12:03 --- 2012-03-31 [iwkse] 0.9.1cvs20 * src/poppler_viewer.c Fix Bug 2637 - pdf_viewer won't work with poppler > 0.17 -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk Sat Mar 31 11:07:38 2012 From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:07:38 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Users] [Bug 2637] pdf_viewer won't work with poppler > 0.17 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120331090738.C9EE3853F0@mx.colino.net> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2637 --- Comment #2 from Marcel van der Boom 2012-03-31 11:07:38 --- Thanks for the quick response, works like a charm again. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From lainecliff at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 11:30:23 2012 From: lainecliff at gmail.com (Cliff Laine) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:30:23 +0100 Subject: [Users] Usenet problem In-Reply-To: <20120328104214.1f398bee@mepis1> References: <20120328104214.1f398bee@mepis1> Message-ID: <20120331103023.1fec6fe2@mepis1> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:42:14 +0100 Cliff Laine wrote: > I was wondering if anyone has ever found that one's posts to a Usenet > group don't show up in CM. I'm trying to post to one in the > uk.food+drink* section and although my posts appear on Google reader > they don't in CM. > > If, on the other hand, I reply to a message, then I see my post. > > If anyone's encountered this before I'd be grateful to hear any > suggestions. > Oops. Helps if you change the "To:" field to "Newsgroups" :) Cliff From seelenhirt at gmx.net Sat Mar 31 14:38:14 2012 From: seelenhirt at gmx.net (seelenhirt) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:38:14 +0200 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <4f74fae8.0c60e00a.300d.64a9@mx.google.com> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> <20120329151815.5302234a@scorpio> <20120329223326.00ec4382@marv> <20120329182326.4b54de19@scorpio> <4f74fae8.0c60e00a.300d.64a9@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <20120331143814.74acaf7b@eris.sumpf> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:14:31 -0400 () Little Girl wrote: > echo "hello world" | rev Neat! And even easier as an action in claws: |rev| -- me From sylpheed at 911networks.com Sat Mar 31 17:24:15 2012 From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:24:15 -0700 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120331143814.74acaf7b@eris.sumpf> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> <20120329151815.5302234a@scorpio> <20120329223326.00ec4382@marv> <20120329182326.4b54de19@scorpio> <4f74fae8.0c60e00a.300d.64a9@mx.google.com> <20120331143814.74acaf7b@eris.sumpf> Message-ID: <20120331082415.5c28c321@from-theboss.911networks.com> reilrae taht fo thguoht evah dluohs I ,noitca na sa citsatnaF !uoy knahT On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:38:14 +0200 seelenhirt wrote: >On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:14:31 -0400 () >Little Girl wrote: > >> echo "hello world" | rev > >Neat! And even easier as an action in claws: |rev| > >-- >me >_______________________________________________ >Users mailing list >Users at lists.claws-mail.org >http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > -- Thanks http://www.911networks.com When the network has to work From jerry at seibercom.net Sat Mar 31 17:47:22 2012 From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:47:22 -0400 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120331143814.74acaf7b@eris.sumpf> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> <20120329151815.5302234a@scorpio> <20120329223326.00ec4382@marv> <20120329182326.4b54de19@scorpio> <4f74fae8.0c60e00a.300d.64a9@mx.google.com> <20120331143814.74acaf7b@eris.sumpf> Message-ID: <20120331114722.4e9de5a1@scorpio> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:38:14 +0200 seelenhirt articulated: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:14:31 -0400 () > Little Girl wrote: > > > echo "hello world" | rev > > Neat! And even easier as an action in claws: |rev| Thanks, I definitely had not thought of that. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Sat Mar 31 18:07:15 2012 From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:07:15 -0600 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120331082415.5c28c321@from-theboss.911networks.com> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> <20120329151815.5302234a@scorpio> <20120329223326.00ec4382@marv> <20120329182326.4b54de19@scorpio> <4f74fae8.0c60e00a.300d.64a9@mx.google.com> <20120331143814.74acaf7b@eris.sumpf> <20120331082415.5c28c321@from-theboss.911networks.com> Message-ID: <20120331100715.5198fb20@yendi> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:24:15 -0700 sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote: > reilrae taht fo thguoht evah dluohs I ,noitca na sa citsatnaF > > !uoy knahT pu peek ot tsuj noitca na sa siht tnemelpmi ot evah llahs I ees nac I .tsil eht htiw ).dnim ot emoc ecilA fo snoitartsulli leinneT nhoJ( -- Charles Curley /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Looking for fine software \ / Respect for open standards and/or writing? X No HTML/RTF in email http://www.charlescurley.com / \ No M$ Word docs in email Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB From h.m.brand at xs4all.nl Sat Mar 31 19:40:20 2012 From: h.m.brand at xs4all.nl (H.Merijn Brand) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:40:20 +0200 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120331100715.5198fb20@yendi> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> <20120329151815.5302234a@scorpio> <20120329223326.00ec4382@marv> <20120329182326.4b54de19@scorpio> <4f74fae8.0c60e00a.300d.64a9@mx.google.com> <20120331143814.74acaf7b@eris.sumpf> <20120331082415.5c28c321@from-theboss.911networks.com> <20120331100715.5198fb20@yendi> Message-ID: <20120331194020.3f131d88@pc09.procura.nl> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:07:15 -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:24:15 -0700 > sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote: > > > reilrae taht fo thguoht evah dluohs I ,noitca na sa citsatnaF > > > > !uoy knahT > > pu peek ot tsuj noitca na sa siht tnemelpmi ot evah llahs I ees nac I > .tsil eht htiw > > ).dnim ot emoc ecilA fo snoitartsulli leinneT nhoJ( Ïŧ ɨș ṣťȉɫꞎ ḟưɲ ƭṍ ŕëàḑ ŧḥęśē ṃêṣʂăġęŝ ḁṋḏ ṭȏ ņǭŧè ŧḩàṱ ṯẖē ęȳė/ḿįṇȡ îs ȧɓḻȅ ṫỡ ŗȇāḋ ƭɦë mëṣșäğę āṡ įńṱéɳďḛđ ëṿëƞ ĩñ â ńớɲ-ȵąƫǐṿę ļȃņǵùãǵé Or in your style ... ȡṇįḿ/ėȳę ēẖṯ ṱàḩŧ èŧǭņ ȏṭ ḏṋḁ ŝęġăʂṣêṃ ēśęḥŧ ḑàëŕ ṍƭ ɲưḟ ꞎɫȉťṣ șɨ ŧÏ éǵãùǵņȃļ ęṿǐƫąȵ-ɲớń â ñĩ ƞëṿë đḛďɳéṱńį ṡā ęğäșṣëm ëɦƭ ḋāȇŗ ỡṫ ȅḻɓȧ sî -- H.Merijn Brand http://tux.nl Perl Monger http://amsterdam.pm.org/ using perl5.00307 .. 5.14 porting perl5 on HP-UX, AIX, and openSUSE http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/ http://www.test-smoke.org/ http://qa.perl.org http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ From seelenhirt at gmx.net Sat Mar 31 22:21:07 2012 From: seelenhirt at gmx.net (seelenhirt) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 22:21:07 +0200 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120331194020.3f131d88@pc09.procura.nl> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> <20120329151815.5302234a@scorpio> <20120329223326.00ec4382@marv> <20120329182326.4b54de19@scorpio> <4f74fae8.0c60e00a.300d.64a9@mx.google.com> <20120331143814.74acaf7b@eris.sumpf> <20120331082415.5c28c321@from-theboss.911networks.com> <20120331100715.5198fb20@yendi> <20120331194020.3f131d88@pc09.procura.nl> Message-ID: <20120331222107.7fd9bcd1@eris.sumpf> > Ïŧ ɨș ṣťȉɫꞎ ḟưɲ ƭṍ ŕëàḑ ŧḥęśē ṃêṣʂăġęŝ ḁṋḏ ṭȏ ņǭŧè ŧḩàṱ ṯẖē ęȳė/ḿįṇȡ > îs ȧɓḻȅ ṫỡ ŗȇāḋ ƭɦë mëṣșäğę āṡ įńṱéɳďḛđ ëṿëƞ ĩñ â ńớɲ-ȵąƫǐṿę ļȃņǵùãǵé oohhh! do you have a tool for this kind of magic? -- me From littlergirl at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 21:28:05 2012 From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:28:05 -0400 Subject: [Users] Usenet problem In-Reply-To: <20120331103023.1fec6fe2@mepis1> References: <20120328104214.1f398bee@mepis1> <20120331103023.1fec6fe2@mepis1> Message-ID: <4f775ac6.4ac7e00a.4448.3cdb@mx.google.com> Hey there, Cliff Laine wrote: > Cliff Laine wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone has ever found that one's posts to a > > Usenet group don't show up in CM. [SNIP] > Oops. Helps if you change the "To:" field to "Newsgroups" :) LOL! As Hannibal would say, "I love it when a plan comes together." (: -- Little Girl There is no spoon. From charlescurley at charlescurley.com Sat Mar 31 21:56:24 2012 From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:56:24 -0600 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120331194020.3f131d88@pc09.procura.nl> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> <20120329151815.5302234a@scorpio> <20120329223326.00ec4382@marv> <20120329182326.4b54de19@scorpio> <4f74fae8.0c60e00a.300d.64a9@mx.google.com> <20120331143814.74acaf7b@eris.sumpf> <20120331082415.5c28c321@from-theboss.911networks.com> <20120331100715.5198fb20@yendi> <20120331194020.3f131d88@pc09.procura.nl> Message-ID: <20120331135624.670f57f1@yendi> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:40:20 +0200 "H.Merijn Brand" wrote: > Ïŧ ɨș ṣťȉɫꞎ ḟưɲ ƭṍ ŕëàḑ ŧḥęśē ṃêṣʂăġęŝ ḁṋḏ ṭȏ ņǭŧè ŧḩàṱ ṯẖē ęȳė/ḿįṇȡ > îs ȧɓḻȅ ṫỡ ŗȇāḋ ƭɦë mëṣșäğę āṡ įńṱéɳďḛđ ëṿëƞ ĩñ â ńớɲ-ȵąƫǐṿę ļȃņǵùãǵé .taht ecnuonorp ot yrt t'nod I fi em evigrof ll'uoy tsurt I -- Charles Curley /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Looking for fine software \ / Respect for open standards and/or writing? X No HTML/RTF in email http://www.charlescurley.com / \ No M$ Word docs in email Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB From h.m.brand at xs4all.nl Sat Mar 31 23:09:53 2012 From: h.m.brand at xs4all.nl (H.Merijn Brand) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:09:53 +0200 Subject: [Users] I can't find an override for a double dash In-Reply-To: <20120331222107.7fd9bcd1@eris.sumpf> References: <20120328145603.59c3edca@mydesk> <20120328222611.2ac150ee@marv> <20120329012236.79167161@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329090709.1e00fe10@colin> <20120329110449.4d674e97@busgosu.mones.org> <20120329112048.32d9ce93@abydos.stargate.org.uk> <20120329145827.3aad1df7@mydesk> <20120329151815.5302234a@scorpio> <20120329223326.00ec4382@marv> <20120329182326.4b54de19@scorpio> <4f74fae8.0c60e00a.300d.64a9@mx.google.com> <20120331143814.74acaf7b@eris.sumpf> <20120331082415.5c28c321@from-theboss.911networks.com> <20120331100715.5198fb20@yendi> <20120331194020.3f131d88@pc09.procura.nl> <20120331222107.7fd9bcd1@eris.sumpf> Message-ID: <20120331230953.324a3dca@pc09.procura.nl> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 22:21:07 +0200, seelenhirt wrote: > > > Ïŧ ɨș ṣťȉɫꞎ ḟưɲ ƭṍ ŕëàḑ ŧḥęśē ṃêṣʂăġęŝ ḁṋḏ ṭȏ ņǭŧè ŧḩàṱ ṯẖē ęȳė/ḿįṇȡ > > îs ȧɓḻȅ ṫỡ ŗȇāḋ ƭɦë mëṣșäğę āṡ įńṱéɳďḛđ ëṿëƞ ĩñ â ńớɲ-ȵąƫǐṿę ļȃņǵùãǵé > > oohhh! do you have a tool for this kind of magic? Öḟ ċǿǚṝŝė Ị ɖǫ, īṱ ẁȍựḹḋ ṯǎḱê ẅãȳ ƭõ ḻǫňģ ʈǭ ƫỹṕḙ țḥạƭ àȧꞎ ḇƴ ḩāņđ ǡńđ ẗȟiñǩḭņĝ ỡūŧ ṭẖé ȴęǧąŀ ƥōʂṩįɓḻȅ ćőṁḃḭṋąțïȯń ȏƒ ḑĩąɕṙiṭąčăľs āņȡ ḇąȿė ɬêṫṱêṙ ťĥǎť ǡřę sừṗṗờṟẗęḍ ƃỹ ṯĥȇ ḉṳɽṝẽƞẗ ƒǫȵṱ ƑẀĮŴ, ȋȶ ḭș â ƥḛṟḻ ṡčŗiṗʈ On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:56:24 -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > .taht ecnuonorp ot yrt t'nod I fi em evigrof ll'uoy tsurt I Ī'ṃ șūŗȅ țĥậṫ èṿèņ ṯẖė ċǫṃƀĭṉãṯȋóń õḟ ğėꞑęɾặʈêȡ ƈḫąṛăĉṭẹɽṡ ḭš ḭȴȴêǵǟļ ȃɲḑ ĉáṉɲȫţ ḅė ƒǿůņḍ ǐń ạṋỳ ɫǡṋḡứåǧê -- H.Merijn Brand http://tux.nl Perl Monger http://amsterdam.pm.org/ using perl5.00307 .. 5.14 porting perl5 on HP-UX, AIX, and openSUSE http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/ http://www.test-smoke.org/ http://qa.perl.org http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/