From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun  1 01:41:47 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri,  1 Jun 2012 01:41:47 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2672] New: Munged URL
Message-ID: <bug-2672-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2672

           Summary: Munged URL
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.0
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: relson at osagesoftware.com


Created an attachment (id=1116)
 --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1116)
gzipped email shows a message having the munging problem

A recent email I received has the following character sequence in it:

 fmxRedirect.pl?id=ABZbLgc

Claws-Mail rendered it as:

 fmxRedirect.pl?id�ZbLgcB_YmM

Notice the substitution of � for =AB.

Several related messages had other combinations of hex digits and were also
rendered improperly - for example "id=B08LLwcB" rendered as "id�8LLwcB_".

This becomes a problem when clicking on the link (or cutting/pasting) to access
the website.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun  1 08:07:23 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri,  1 Jun 2012 08:07:23 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2672] Munged URL
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--- Comment #1 from Paul  2012-06-01 08:07:22 ---
it's a broken mail. It claims to be ISO-8859-1 when it's UTF-8 and, more
importantly, it claims to use quoted-printable encoding, but it's not actually
using it. It's this latter point that causes the link to break at the = symbol.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jun  2 11:01:35 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat,  2 Jun 2012 11:01:35 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2620] pressing shift tab with focus on message body
 should move focus to subject
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2620





--- Comment #8 from users  2012-06-02 11:01:34 ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest CVS and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://www.claws-mail.org/tracker/

2012-06-02 [wwp]    3.8.0cvs51

    * src/compose.c
        Fix bug 2620: shift+tab from subject field not working.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jun  2 11:02:44 2012
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Date: Sat,  2 Jun 2012 11:02:44 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2620] pressing shift tab with focus on message body
 should move focus to subject
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 06:12:40 2012
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Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 06:12:40 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2655] 8bit iso-8859 character sets are qp-encoded
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--- Comment #1 from Paul  2012-06-04 06:12:39 ---
I believe that was done for safety.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 06:14:52 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 06:14:52 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2619] configuration window displays incomplete with a
 1024*600 resolution
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--- Comment #2 from Paul  2012-06-04 06:14:51 ---
no response from submitter, closing this

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 06:21:09 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 06:21:09 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2630] Draft sometimes not deleted when message sent
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--- Comment #1 from Paul  2012-06-04 06:21:09 ---
is this IMAP?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 06:26:47 2012
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Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 06:26:47 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2613] Reply selects default account
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 06:27:49 2012
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Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 06:27:49 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2670] Buggy date in the Date column of main window in
	Hungarian
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 06:44:30 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 06:44:30 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2579] Installed headers redefine autotools-specific
	constants
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 06:45:33 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 06:45:33 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2578] claws mail crashes when deleting imap emails
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 06:47:27 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 06:47:27 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2563] Claws Mail crashes when trying to view some mails
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 06:59:23 2012
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Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 06:59:23 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2603] Segfault on reply
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 07:08:20 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 07:08:20 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2671] deleting a folder fails on dovecot server
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--- Comment #3 from Paul  2012-06-04 07:08:19 ---
Chad, see the information about appending '/' to the folder name on the 'new
folder' dialogue.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 08:33:05 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 08:33:05 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2618] Auto wrapping setting ignored for middle click
	paste
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--- Comment #1 from Paul  2012-06-04 08:33:05 ---
The wrapping or non-wrapping of pasted text should obey the 'Wrap pasted text'
option, not the 'Auto wrapping' option.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 08:42:29 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 08:42:29 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2630] Draft sometimes not deleted when message sent
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--- Comment #2 from Marcel van der Boom  2012-06-04 08:42:29 ---
I see this behaviour occassionally too, and I am on IMAP

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 08:56:11 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 08:56:11 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2566] wrapped Subject not bounded -- spills into
 previous message & From column
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--- Comment #6 from Paul  2012-06-04 08:56:10 ---
It seems to be a broken mailer/mail, with an encoded linebreak in the Subject
header.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 08:58:03 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 08:58:03 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2615] Unify spaces in strings
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 08:59:36 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 08:59:36 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2521] Deleting a tag crashes
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 09:02:00 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 09:02:00 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2489] New mails will not be "tagged" as "New" sometimes
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--- Comment #3 from Paul  2012-06-04 09:02:00 ---
gmail has no notion of new messages, unread messages and read messages. It only
recognizes unread/read. You need to find their bug tracker instead.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 09:03:09 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 09:03:09 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2460] When replying to an email from yahoo.com,
 Claws Mail puts everything in a single paragraph.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 09:07:00 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 09:07:00 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2630] Draft sometimes not deleted when message sent
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--- Comment #3 from Paul  2012-06-04 09:06:59 ---
probably/possibly a temporary network bottleneck. you could keep your drafts in
a local MH folder.

See if --debug or the network can provide more information.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 09:11:00 2012
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Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 09:11:00 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2488] Preselected folder for Move/Copy to folder
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Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |WONTFIX
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--- Comment #1 from Paul  2012-06-04 09:11:00 ---
accounts are not necessarily linked with mailboxes, e.g. several pop accounts
can share a single MH mailbox

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 09:13:21 2012
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Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 09:13:21 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2577] Focus rectangle on folder list and message list
 headings doesn't get properly cleared when switching heading and
 horizontally scrolling list (underlines and vertical lines remain on
 screen)
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Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 09:36:42 2012
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Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 09:36:42 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2579] Installed headers redefine autotools-specific
	constants
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--- Comment #1 from Micha&#322; G�rny  2012-06-04 09:36:41 ---
Any explanation, please?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 09:58:40 2012
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--- Comment #2 from Ricardo Mones  2012-06-04 09:58:40 ---
You shouldn't be shipping those files in your plugin. Have a look at other
plugins' sources.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 10:02:35 2012
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Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 10:02:35 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2521] Deleting a tag crashes
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--- Comment #10 from Michael Schwendt  2012-06-04 10:02:35 ---
Yes, it's some gtk2/glib2 bug as can be concluded also from the comments above.
And a gtk2 ticket has been filed months ago, too.

But it's reproducible with (Fedora 17):

  $ rpm -q gtk2 glib2 claws-mail
  gtk2-2.24.10-1.fc17.x86_64
  glib2-2.32.3-1.fc17.x86_64
  claws-mail-3.8.0-3.fc17.x86_64

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 10:07:17 2012
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Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 10:07:17 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2579] Installed headers redefine autotools-specific
	constants
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--- Comment #3 from Micha&#322; G�rny  2012-06-04 10:07:17 ---
Shipping what files? You mean making it buildable outside of claws-mail
codebase?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 10:30:04 2012
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Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 10:30:04 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2579] Installed headers redefine autotools-specific
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--- Comment #4 from Ricardo Mones  2012-06-04 10:30:04 ---
Looking at your sources (I guess we're talking of
https://github.com/mgorny/claws-mail-gkr) you're including config.h, that
shouldn't be there (forget my other explanation, I figured out things that
weren't there ;-)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 10:39:32 2012
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Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 10:39:32 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2579] Installed headers redefine autotools-specific
	constants
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--- Comment #5 from Micha&#322; G�rny  2012-06-04 10:39:31 ---
I'm including _my_ config.h which is part of my build system and shouldn't be
disallowed. The claws-mail config.h is included by its other headers as the
compiler trace shows.

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From paradox at pobox.com  Mon Jun  4 10:32:19 2012
From: paradox at pobox.com (Paradox)
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 16:32:19 +0800
Subject: [Users] Troubles with claws-mail 3.8 upgrade
In-Reply-To: <20120529150450.4c176560@zidgel>
References: <20120520092241.40f6e9df@midgel> <20120520124520.5e645f3c@wodan>
	<20120520210711.572c94fb@midgel> <20120520171832.5e21acef@wodan>
	<20120521053313.5725df8f@midgel>
	<20120521003517.588925ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20120521121652.6e78aad4@midgel> <20120521073104.47e12381@thewildbeast>
	<20120521162531.2c3857ff@midgel> <20120525092352.79ee195e@midgel>
	<20120525065531.28783c2a@thewildbeast> <20120529150450.4c176560@zidgel>
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On 05/29/2012 03:04 PM, Thomas C. Hicks wrote:
> Paul wrote:
>
>> Try starting Claws with `claws-mail --debug` to get more information.
>> Have you tried the STARTTLS option? Are you using SMTP AUTH?
> I opened claws-mail with the --debug option and routed the output to a
> text file.  When I try to connect in the console I see this:
>
> ** (claws-mail:4725): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GtkCMUnit'
> as enum when in fact it is of type 'gint' ** Message: Account 'Tom
> 3e2a': Connecting to POP3 server: email.asianetrising.com...
>
>
> ** (claws-mail:4725): WARNING **: SSL connection failed (A TLS packet
> with unexpected length was received.)
>
> ** (claws-mail:4725): WARNING **: can't initialize SSL.
>
> ** (claws-mail:4725): WARNING **: [14:49:01] SSL handshake failed
>
>
> ** (claws-mail:4725): WARNING **: [14:49:01] Connection failed.
>
> In the text file there is a lot of stuff.  My best guess is this is the
> relevant section:
> progressdialog.c:62:Creating progress dialog...
> inc.c:775:getting new messages of account Tom 3e2a...
> ssl.c:216:waiting for SSL_connect thread...
> ssl.c:234:SSL_connect thread returned -9
> session.c:353:session (0xa9ed210): closed
>
> As far as using the STARTTLS option - I have tried that but just
> results in a "Connection Failed" error.
>
> SMTP AUTH is set to automatic and it has my user id and password for
> the smtp server.
>
> thomas
Looks like a lot of new bug reports today - I wish the claws-mail 
project all the best.  After working on this problem of connecting to 
secured servers I found the answer - Thunderbird mail.  I would prefer 
to stay with claws but I really need to get my work done and an email 
program that can't get email is a bit troublesome.

All the best!

thomas


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 11:02:46 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 11:02:46 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2579] Installed headers redefine autotools-specific
	constants
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--- Comment #6 from Ricardo Mones  2012-06-04 11:02:46 ---
Is not disallowed, but if you define things already defined in Claws Mail
config.h, what do you expect?

If you're building a plugin for an application, I think you should follow the
rules for building plugins for that application, and not redefining macros is a
pretty simple rule IMO.

BTW, this is not a place for this, please followup any other question on devel
list.

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 11:36:46 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:36:46 +0100
Subject: [Users] Troubles with claws-mail 3.8 upgrade
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References: <20120520092241.40f6e9df@midgel> <20120520124520.5e645f3c@wodan>
	<20120520210711.572c94fb@midgel> <20120520171832.5e21acef@wodan>
	<20120521053313.5725df8f@midgel>
	<20120521003517.588925ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20120521121652.6e78aad4@midgel>
	<20120521073104.47e12381@thewildbeast>
	<20120521162531.2c3857ff@midgel> <20120525092352.79ee195e@midgel>
	<20120525065531.28783c2a@thewildbeast>
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On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 16:32:19 +0800
Paradox <paradox at pobox.com> wrote: 

> Looks like a lot of new bug reports today

No, none in fact. I was just closing a lot of old ones.

with regards

Paul


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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 11:39:13 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:39:13 +0100
Subject: [Users] Troubles with claws-mail 3.8 upgrade
In-Reply-To: <4FCC7293.9060108@pobox.com>
References: <20120520092241.40f6e9df@midgel> <20120520124520.5e645f3c@wodan>
	<20120520210711.572c94fb@midgel> <20120520171832.5e21acef@wodan>
	<20120521053313.5725df8f@midgel>
	<20120521003517.588925ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20120521121652.6e78aad4@midgel>
	<20120521073104.47e12381@thewildbeast>
	<20120521162531.2c3857ff@midgel> <20120525092352.79ee195e@midgel>
	<20120525065531.28783c2a@thewildbeast>
	<20120529150450.4c176560@zidgel> <4FCC7293.9060108@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <20120604103913.02e5454a@thewildbeast>

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 16:32:19 +0800
Paradox <paradox at pobox.com> wrote: 

> After working on this problem of connecting to 
> secured servers I found the answer - Thunderbird mail.  I would
> prefer to stay with claws but I really need to get my work done and
> an email program that can't get email is a bit troublesome.

To be fair, you didn't provide a lot of information to go on.

with regards

Paul


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun  4 13:04:11 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2012 13:04:11 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2630] Draft sometimes not deleted when message sent
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--- Comment #4 from J�r�me  2012-06-04 13:04:11 ---
IMAP indeed. I don't want to store drafts locally, as I also work on them from
my webmail.

I'll try to use --debug. Something specific I should look for ?

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From joydeep at infoservices.in  Mon Jun  4 14:46:15 2012
From: joydeep at infoservices.in (J. Bakshi)
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 18:16:15 +0530
Subject: [Users] printout issue
Message-ID: <20120604181615.6d785bc2@shiva.selfip.org>



Hello list,

I like to take a printout of an email which have some images. 
But in print preview it shows ; it just takes a page for a single
image though there is huge space to fit one more image. How can I
instruct claws-mail to fit the images in page / use all available space ?

Thanks


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun  5 17:07:16 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue,  5 Jun 2012 17:07:16 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1090] Standard-folders appear again after rescanning
	tree
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--- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian  2012-06-05 17:07:15 ---
It seems to me that following simple patch fixes the issue:

Index: src/mh.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/claws-mail/claws/src/mh.c,v
retrieving revision 1.79.2.72
diff -u -r1.79.2.72 mh.c
--- src/mh.c    27 May 2012 17:30:52 -0000      1.79.2.72
+++ src/mh.c    5 Jun 2012 15:06:24 -0000
@@ -756,7 +756,6 @@
        }
        g_free(rootpath);

-       mh_create_tree(folder);
        mh_remove_missing_folder_items(folder);
        mh_scan_tree_recursive(item);

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From pf at pfortin.com  Tue Jun  5 18:33:23 2012
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 12:33:23 -0400
Subject: [Users] I hate HTML mail; but...
Message-ID: <20120605123323.18710f03@pfortin.com>

Hi all,

It's getting more and more difficult to avoid HTML mail.  Financial
institutions seem to be hell-bent on pushing the rest of the world kicking
and screaming into HTML...  :P

Notwithstanding, forwarding such messages produces different results
based on forwarding mode:

Normal Forward:  everything is wrapped together, only table tags provide
any separation -- just a new line.

Forward as Attachment:  what the text looks like is only visible to the
recipient; but it looks fine -- just as it does when the text version is
displayed on the original message.

So this begs the question:  does Forward use a different code segment?

If Forward produced the same layout as it appears in the original text
view, that would be very acceptable...  

Thanks,
Pierre


From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Wed Jun  6 00:49:51 2012
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:49:51 -0400
Subject: [Users] I wrote a reply template for Linkedin spam
Message-ID: <20120605184951.616f9e02@mydesk>

Hi all,

Linkedin is supposed to be a web of trust where people recommend those
they know. But every couple days, someone I don't know (or don't
remember) sends me an invitation to link.

Sometimes I actually know them but forgot. Sometimes they're just
spammers. So I need to ask them where I know them from. This happens so
often that I've made a template for the job, as shown between the
asterisk rows (asterisk rows not part of the template):

**************************************************
Hi %F,

Please refresh my memory. From where do we know each other?

Thanks

Steve

Steve Litt                *  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
                          *  http://twitter.com/stevelitt
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

=========

On %d, %N as %A wrote:

%Q
**************************************************

Pretty cool, huh? By the way, I use an angle bracket (>) for the
quotation mark on this template.

Thanks

SteveT

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun  7 11:49:59 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu,  7 Jun 2012 11:49:59 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2521] Deleting a tag crashes
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--- Comment #11 from Raphael Groner  2012-06-07 11:49:58 ---
I can't reproduce with the following versions in usage. Though, the creation of
new flags is slow, maybe due to my mail server.

claws-mail-3.8.0-3pclos2012
gtk+2.0-2.24.5-3pclos2011
glibc-2.13-4pclos2011

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun  7 17:22:24 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu,  7 Jun 2012 17:22:24 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2673] New: Message list does not update
Message-ID: <bug-2673-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2673

           Summary: Message list does not update
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.7.9
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: major
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message List
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: muley at mtida.net


When deleting, copying, or moving an item, the message list does not update
properly.  It usually leaves the old data, while adding the new data. 
Sometimes, upon deleting an item, or items, it clears the item(s) from the
message list, and at other times, it doesn't.  I'm running Fedora 14 i386.

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Subject: [Users] [Bug 2673] Message list does not update
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--- Comment #1 from Paul  2012-06-07 20:13:54 ---
please verify that this bug exists in the latest release (3.8.0) as requested
on the 'new bug' page. re-open this if you can still reproduce it.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun  8 11:24:14 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri,  8 Jun 2012 11:24:14 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2674] New: tool to change subject of received mails
Message-ID: <bug-2674-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2674

           Summary: tool to change subject of received mails
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.0
          Platform: All
        OS/Version: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: adam at majle.pl
                CC: adam at majle.pl


Hi!

simple:
I need a toy that will allow me at least to change subject in received email.

description:
I have a lot of mails daily, i have a lot of filters and sub folders too, but i
still have to search mails in those sub folders for a specified criteria. There
are also a lot of people who doesn't know what subject is for. They sends me
smiles ":)" or regards or scans directly from machine where subject is just
like "20120214142942688_0002, 20120214142942688_0001", which all of it is
totally useless for work. I am marking those with my tags and colours, i am
moving to specified sub folders but there is still need to change those
subjects.

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From lfrr at minnit.de  Fri Jun  8 13:01:02 2012
From: lfrr at minnit.de (Michael Scheer)
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 13:01:02 +0200
Subject: [Users] IMAP-SSL: Tells me about new certificate at every start
Message-ID: <20120608130102.00005ac6@minnit.de>

Hello everybody,

my SSL server has changed its security certificate. Claws now tells me
at every start about it. I click "Accept and save" but that does not
prevent it from telling me again and again... No time to dig deeper
into it, therefore I ask here, sorry. It's the super duper newest 20
year old windows compile 3.7.10cvs7 btw...

Best regards
Michael


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Fri Jun  8 15:03:00 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 14:03:00 +0100
Subject: [Users] IMAP-SSL: Tells me about new certificate at every start
In-Reply-To: <20120608130102.00005ac6@minnit.de>
References: <20120608130102.00005ac6@minnit.de>
Message-ID: <20120608140300.00001e8e@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 13:01:02 +0200
Michael Scheer <lfrr at minnit.de> wrote:

> It's the super duper newest 20
> year old windows compile 3.7.10cvs7 btw...

I am running 3.8.0cvs30 on Windows, obtainable from
http://claws-mail.org/win32

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun  8 23:43:08 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri,  8 Jun 2012 23:43:08 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2674] tool to change subject of received mails
In-Reply-To: <bug-2674-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2674-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2674


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--- Comment #1 from Paul  2012-06-08 23:43:07 ---
This is exactly the sort of thing that the Actions feature was created for. See
http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Actions for further information.

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From berndth at gmx.de  Sun Jun 10 14:51:25 2012
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 14:51:25 +0200
Subject: [Users] printout issue
In-Reply-To: <20120604181615.6d785bc2@shiva.selfip.org>
References: <20120604181615.6d785bc2@shiva.selfip.org>
Message-ID: <20120610145125.6264315a@wodan>

On Mo, 04.06.2012 18:16, J. Bakshi wrote:

>I like to take a printout of an email which have some images. 
>But in print preview it shows ; it just takes a page for a single
>image though there is huge space to fit one more image. How can I
>instruct claws-mail to fit the images in page / use all available space ?

Claws Mail only scales down images to make sure they fit onto the page,
while preserving aspect ratio. It doesn't scale down further, but it
also doesn't add unnecessary page breaks - if the images fit on a
single page, they will be put on a single page.

Holger


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 10 22:04:21 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:04:21 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2675] New: Result of signature check is wrong
Message-ID: <bug-2675-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2675

           Summary: Result of signature check is wrong
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: CVS
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Privacy
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: mir at datanom.net


If a pgp signature contains more than one email address and the verification
concers an address which is not the first in the list the shown result for the
signature verification is wrong. It seems that the result shown under the
message always picks the first email address in the list regardless of the
email address verified.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun 11 08:16:48 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:16:48 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2675] Result of signature check is wrong
In-Reply-To: <bug-2675-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2675


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--- Comment #1 from Paul  2012-06-11 08:16:47 ---
it works for me.
If you can provide and example to show this bug then re-open it.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun 11 08:18:30 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:18:30 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2664] Filtering by attachment - quick search bar
In-Reply-To: <bug-2664-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2664


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun 11 08:21:27 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:21:27 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2600] Claws Mail crashes showing GPG signature
	information
In-Reply-To: <bug-2600-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2600


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun 11 08:23:32 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:23:32 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2583] if NetworkManager is not running claws hangs for
 30 seconds at startup and shutdown
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2583


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun 12 02:59:13 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:59:13 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2676] New: Word wrap merges with later paragraphs
Message-ID: <bug-2676-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2676

           Summary: Word wrap merges with later paragraphs
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.0
          Platform: Other
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Compose Window
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: clawsmail at seebs.net


If for some reason I'm typing on the line before a paragraph, the word wrap
feature *sometimes* automatically merges them.  It turns out this is almost
never what I meant to do.  It seems that the trigger for this is:

1.  Type something.
2.  up-arrow to previous line.
3.  Start typing.

Reason this bites me is that often the "something" in the first line is
something signature-y.  So I might write something, then write "- seebs" at the
bottom of it, then think better and add a new paragraph -- but then when I hit
line wrap, that gets merged.

Not sure what the "fix" would be.  This doesn't happen in some other cases; I'm
assuming it's a general case of "moving within a paragraph doesn't break
paragraphs", in which case, maybe if you move up from a paragraph to a blank
line before it, this should be considered a separate paragraph, not moving
within a paragraph.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun 12 08:43:52 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:43:52 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2598] Actions can move locked messages
In-Reply-To: <bug-2598-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2598-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2598


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--- Comment #1 from users  2012-02-10 22:39:34 ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest CVS and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://www.claws-mail.org/tracker/

2012-02-10 [pawel]    3.8.0cvs28

    * src/filtering.c
        Fix bug #2598 'Actions can move locked messages'

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun 12 08:53:32 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:53:32 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2517] The in-reply-to field is ignored when composing
 a new message
In-Reply-To: <bug-2517-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2517-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2517


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--- Comment #1 from Paul  2012-06-12 08:53:32 ---
"En-r�ponse-�:" is an illegal header, but "In-reply-to:" is fine. see RFC 822.

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From joydeep at infoservices.in  Tue Jun 12 09:24:41 2012
From: joydeep at infoservices.in (J. Bakshi)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:54:41 +0530
Subject: [Users] printout issue
In-Reply-To: <20120604181615.6d785bc2@shiva.selfip.org>
References: <20120604181615.6d785bc2@shiva.selfip.org>
Message-ID: <20120612125441.0d28b865@shiva.selfip.org>

Any clue please ?


On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 18:16:15 +0530
"J. Bakshi" <joydeep at infoservices.in> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hello list,
> 
> I like to take a printout of an email which have some images. 
> But in print preview it shows ; it just takes a page for a single
> image though there is huge space to fit one more image. How can I
> instruct claws-mail to fit the images in page / use all available space ?
> 
> Thanks


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Jun 12 12:01:56 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:01:56 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2677] New: More informative progress dialogue window
Message-ID: <bug-2677-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2677

           Summary: More informative progress dialogue window
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.0
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: bleketux at gmail.com


Created an attachment (id=1117)
 --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1117)
information on red boxes was not sync with actual process, it should show
"Filtering".

Once upon a time :D I have many emails on my inbox, when I pop-ed it, it
freezes my claws, I wonder why? So I put --debug, then I saw it was in the
process of filtering all my mails, instead of retrieving as shown in the
progress window.

The information on progress window is not what they actually said. The
information says it is "Retrieving", while actually it was "Filtering". And on
other part of progress window, it says "Quitting".
So the three process is not sync.

So my suggestion is to sync all the information on progress window into the
actual process.
In this case, it should be showing "Filtering" instead of "Retrieving" or
"Quitting". Please check red boxes on the attachment.

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From lfrr at minnit.de  Tue Jun 12 13:25:52 2012
From: lfrr at minnit.de (Michael Scheer)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:25:52 +0200
Subject: [Users] IMAP-SSL: Tells me about new certificate at every start
In-Reply-To: <20120608140300.00001e8e@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20120608130102.00005ac6@minnit.de>
	<20120608140300.00001e8e@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20120612132552.000062d2@minnit.de>

Brian Morrison wrote:

> > It's the super duper newest 20
> > year old windows compile 3.7.10cvs7 btw...  
> 
> I am running 3.8.0cvs30 on Windows, obtainable from
> http://claws-mail.org/win32

Ah great, it works...

Unfortunately I'm still bugged about the SSL Certificate...

Michael


From lfrr at minnit.de  Tue Jun 12 13:31:36 2012
From: lfrr at minnit.de (Michael Scheer)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:31:36 +0200
Subject: [Users] IMAP-SSL: Tells me about new certificate at every start
In-Reply-To: <20120612132552.000062d2@minnit.de>
References: <20120608130102.00005ac6@minnit.de>
	<20120608140300.00001e8e@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20120612132552.000062d2@minnit.de>
Message-ID: <20120612133136.000023f7@minnit.de>

Michael Scheer wrote:

> Unfortunately I'm still bugged about the SSL Certificate...

OK I solved it: by deleting the certificates in
"%appdata%\Claws-mail\certs\" manually before starting CM.


From berndth at gmx.de  Tue Jun 12 19:46:56 2012
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:46:56 +0200
Subject: [Users] printout issue
In-Reply-To: <20120612125441.0d28b865@shiva.selfip.org>
References: <20120604181615.6d785bc2@shiva.selfip.org>
	<20120612125441.0d28b865@shiva.selfip.org>
Message-ID: <20120612194656.007dfbb6@wodan>

On Di, 12.06.2012 12:54, J. Bakshi wrote:

>Any clue please ?

I told you how Claws Mail behaves - what other clues are you looking
for?

Holger


From joydeep at infoservices.in  Wed Jun 13 06:37:30 2012
From: joydeep at infoservices.in (J. Bakshi)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:07:30 +0530
Subject: [Users] printout issue
In-Reply-To: <20120612194656.007dfbb6@wodan>
References: <20120604181615.6d785bc2@shiva.selfip.org>
	<20120612125441.0d28b865@shiva.selfip.org>
	<20120612194656.007dfbb6@wodan>
Message-ID: <20120613100730.64f2de6d@shiva.selfip.org>


On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:46:56 +0200
Holger Berndt <berndth at gmx.de> wrote:

> On Di, 12.06.2012 12:54, J. Bakshi wrote:
> 
> >Any clue please ?
> 
> I told you how Claws Mail behaves - what other clues are you looking
> for?
> 
> Holger

Dear Hoglar,

I didn't get your previous mail !!!  Could you kindly resend ?
I'm eagerly want to know.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 13 07:52:40 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:52:40 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2678] New: Claws hangs when fetching from local IMAP
	server
Message-ID: <bug-2678-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2678

           Summary: Claws hangs when fetching from local IMAP server
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.0
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders/IMAP
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: sg.backuponly at gmail.com


I am using Claws-Mail 3.8.0 on a Debian Squeeze system - it's a wonderful
program.  Claws is configured to load mails from a local Dovecot IMAP server on
the same machine (which in turn is updated using offlineimap). I've been using
this combination for four years now with hardly any hitches.  However,
recently, things have begun to slow down a lot, and ten days ago Claws began to
hang entirely on certain operations.  So far I have found this to be the case
when:

* Trying to open certain messages - there seems to be no clear pattern
* Running "rebuild folder tree" on the IMAP account

Once it hangs Claws will not respond to anything including a TERM signal.  It
has to be killed with kill -9.  

In case it may help with diagnosing the problem, I've attached the strace
output that results when I start claws, set it to online mode (it always starts
offline for some reason), and then try to rebuild the folder tree.

I have deleted my entire ~/.claws-mail folder and started from scratch, to no
avail.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 13 07:59:49 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:59:49 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2678] Claws hangs when fetching from local IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <bug-2678-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2678





--- Comment #1 from Shankar  2012-06-13 07:59:49 ---
Oops, it looks like the strace output is too large to be attached.  Apologies.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 13 10:59:39 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:59:39 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2678] Claws hangs when fetching from local IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <bug-2678-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2678-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20120613085939.9560585398@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2678





--- Comment #2 from Paul  2012-06-13 10:59:39 ---
If this is a recent phenomenon and not related to your Claws Mail version, then
it would appear that it must be in relation to something that is not Claws
Mail, right?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 13 11:10:37 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:10:37 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2678] Claws hangs when fetching from local IMAP server
In-Reply-To: <bug-2678-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2678-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20120613091037.57AD285398@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2678


Shankar <sg.backuponly at gmail.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |LATER




--- Comment #3 from Shankar  2012-06-13 11:10:36 ---
Thank you for your prompt reply, I was about to post here.  I neglected to add
that the problem has only been cropping up since I upgraded to Claws 3.8.0.  

However, in a sense you're right.  when running from the command line, every
crash was accompanied with a message saying "IMAP: parse error."  Once this
message appeared, the program would hang.  I managed to address this by
upgrading dovecot to version 2.0, clearing out all indexes and caches, and
moving out most of the old messages to a separate IMAP account.  Now it seems
to be working smoothly. 

As such it seems like the bug,if there is such, is a result of Claws failing to
gracefully handle IMAP errors.  I am changing the status of this to Resolved
now but perhaps this can be considered in future.

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From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org  Wed Jun 13 12:16:47 2012
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) Olgiati)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:16:47 -0400
Subject: [Users] Query about filtering and matcherrc
Message-ID: <201206130616.47725.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>

I am about to move (upgrade ?) from Kmail to Claws, so that I can get finally 
rid of the bloatware KDE has become on my Linux (Mageia 1) box.

The problem I face is that I need to transfer all (>100) the existing filter 
rules from one to the other; doing it through the GUI does not seem the most 
efficient way and I plan to cut and paste between kmailrc and matcherrc.

To this end, I would like to see the tech specs of matcherrc, for information 
on the exact syntax that can be used, whether there is a max line length for 
an entry, etc. but have been unable to find that information.

Is it available somewhere on the net ?
 
TIA,
 
Ron.
-- 
                     It is a capital mistake to theorize
                      before you have all the evidence.
                           It biases the judgment.
                                --Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
                                    
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From fresneda at gmail.com  Thu Jun 14 04:47:45 2012
From: fresneda at gmail.com (Rodrigo Fresneda)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:47:45 -0300
Subject: [Users] Strange network behavior
Message-ID: <CAFRVzRqo3Agus-JFPFYccqXdvgra=jhR6NgERzR=iSufX4zmcg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I have been using claws 3.8.0 on debian unstable for some time now,
and I have noticed a strange network behavior when fetching messages
from Gmail (imap). At first, when I start the program, messages download
quickly, and the filter log displays  many lines such as

[23:37:07] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1400 bytes]

in rapid succession. However, after some time (of the order of hours, or
after some idle time, I am not quite sure), Claws'  fetch speed slows down
considerably, and although the network log shows the same lines as above,
they appear in a slow succession.

What is causing this? And how can I better debug this problem?

best,
rodrigo.



-- 
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while the symphony of number knows only its opposite - the staccato. All
attempts to reconcile this discrepancy are based on the hope that an
accelerated staccato may appear to our senses as a legato."
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From pf at pfortin.com  Sat Jun 16 16:38:50 2012
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 10:38:50 -0400
Subject: [Users] Filtering: delete copy of redirected message from Sent
	folder?
Message-ID: <20120616103850.4de4c2f8@pfortin.com>

Hi,

I have filters which redirect messages to business partners, then move
the original to a folder.

The redirect results in a copy being saved in the Sent folder.  Is there
a way to prevent/delete this copy (not the original)?  Trying to
minimize manual cleanup of the Sent folder.

Would a "[x] Don't save redirected message in Sent" option be reasonable?

Cheers,
Pierre


From richard at g8jvm.com  Sat Jun 16 17:00:53 2012
From: richard at g8jvm.com (Richard Bown)
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:00:53 +0100
Subject: [Users] Dummy accounts
Message-ID: <20120616160053.5fd4a3ad@g8jvm-lap.localdomain>

Hi ,

Is it possible to have a dummy account so that when composing a message there
is a choice of which account holder is sending the mail ?
or to have an account where the server is not syncd.
The reason is my wife has an alias on my  exchange IMAP mail server.
If I use two CM accounts on the same exchange account ,both sync with the
server and I have to get my mail from her account.
At the moment she has a local account but its disabled in configuration/edit
accounts.
Is there a better way of doing this
-- 
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Best wishes / 73
Richard Bown

e-mail: richard at g8jvm.com  




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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jun 16 17:46:26 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:46:26 +0100
Subject: [Users] Dummy accounts
In-Reply-To: <20120616160053.5fd4a3ad@g8jvm-lap.localdomain>
References: <20120616160053.5fd4a3ad@g8jvm-lap.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20120616164626.1a4cd6bd@thewildbeast>

On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:00:53 +0100
Richard Bown <richard at g8jvm.com> wrote: 

> Is there a better way of doing this

An SMTP-only account would perhaps suit your needs.

with regards

Paul


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but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From richard at g8jvm.com  Sat Jun 16 18:45:23 2012
From: richard at g8jvm.com (Richard Bown)
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 17:45:23 +0100
Subject: [Users] Dummy accounts
In-Reply-To: <20120616164626.1a4cd6bd@thewildbeast>
References: <20120616160053.5fd4a3ad@g8jvm-lap.localdomain>
	<20120616164626.1a4cd6bd@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20120616174523.21041ada@g8jvm-lap.localdomain>

On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:46:26 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:00:53 +0100
> Richard Bown <richard at g8jvm.com> wrote: 
> 
> > Is there a better way of doing this
> 
> An SMTP-only account would perhaps suit your needs.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> 
> 

Hi Paul, can that be done with an existing account or does it have to be set
when creating an account, I cant see how to turn IMAP off for just one account.

-- 
-- 
Best wishes / 73
Richard Bown

e-mail: richard at g8jvm.com  




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From higuita7 at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Jun 18 03:29:27 2012
From: higuita7 at yahoo.co.uk (higuita)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 02:29:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] I hate HTML mail; but...
In-Reply-To: <20120605123323.18710f03@pfortin.com>
References: <20120605123323.18710f03@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20120618022927.54afd149@Couracado.homelinux.net>

On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 12:33:23 -0400, Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:
(...)
> Forward as Attachment:  what the text looks like is only visible to the
> recipient; but it looks fine -- just as it does when the text version is
> displayed on the original message.
> 
> So this begs the question:  does Forward use a different code segment?

	Forward as attach will not touch the original mail, it will just
be attached to your email and the recipient email client will display it
just like it received the email itself.

	Normal forward will take the text and put it on your composing
window... as it doesnt support html, it will show only the text
version of the email or the striped html version, if there is no text
version.

	Anyway, you dont need html to reply, if you really need the
original html version, forward as attach or reply and attach the 
old email.

	The only occasion i do miss html is when i need to correct
a table sent via html... small ones one can fake with text, but
bigger ones are harder.

higuita
-- 
Naturally the common people don't want war... but after all it is the
leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a 
simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or
a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.
Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of
the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are 
being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and
exposing the country to danger.  It works the same in every country.
           -- Hermann Goering, Nazi and war criminal, 1883-1946
 
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun 18 06:18:52 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:18:52 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2679] New: network grinds to a halt
Message-ID: <bug-2679-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2679

           Summary: network grinds to a halt
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.0
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: blocker
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders/IMAP
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: fresneda at gmail.com


I have been using claws 3.8.0 on debian unstable for some time now,
and I have noticed a strange network behavior when fetching messages
from Gmail (imap). At first, when I start the program, messages download
quickly, and the filter log displays  many lines such as

[23:37:07] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1400 bytes]

in rapid succession. However, after some time (of the order of hours, or
after some idle time, I am not quite sure), Claws'  fetch speed slows down
considerably, and although the network log shows the same lines as above,
they appear in a slow succession.

The effect is that I am unable to fetch messages with large attachments,
rendering the program unusable. Restarting fixes the network issue temporarily.

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Jun 18 08:10:17 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 07:10:17 +0100
Subject: [Users] Dummy accounts
In-Reply-To: <20120616174523.21041ada@g8jvm-lap.localdomain>
References: <20120616160053.5fd4a3ad@g8jvm-lap.localdomain>
	<20120616164626.1a4cd6bd@thewildbeast>
	<20120616174523.21041ada@g8jvm-lap.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20120618071017.65a69ac7@thewildbeast>

On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 17:45:23 +0100
Richard Bown <richard at g8jvm.com> wrote: 

> Hi Paul, can that be done with an existing account or does it have
> to be set when creating an account, I cant see how to turn IMAP off
> for just one account.

You need to create a new account.

with regards

Paul


-- 
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but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From pf at pfortin.com  Mon Jun 18 13:06:20 2012
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 07:06:20 -0400
Subject: [Users] I hate HTML mail; but...
In-Reply-To: <20120618022927.54afd149@Couracado.homelinux.net>
References: <20120605123323.18710f03@pfortin.com>
	<20120618022927.54afd149@Couracado.homelinux.net>
Message-ID: <20120618070620.19556f77@pfortin.com>

On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 02:29:27 +0100 higuita wrote:

>On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 12:33:23 -0400, Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:
>(...)
>> Forward as Attachment:  what the text looks like is only visible to the
>> recipient; but it looks fine -- just as it does when the text version
>> is displayed on the original message.
>> 
>> So this begs the question:  does Forward use a different code segment?
>
>	Forward as attach will not touch the original mail, it will just
>be attached to your email and the recipient email client will display it
>just like it received the email itself.
>
>	Normal forward will take the text and put it on your composing
>window... as it doesnt support html, it will show only the text
>version of the email or the striped html version, if there is no text
>version.

[Re-inserting text from original post]
Normal Forward:  everything is wrapped together, only table tags provide
any separation -- just a new line.

This was the main point in my query -- Forward as attachment displays the
text with whitespace; but normal Forward deletes all the whitespace,
making the non-html forwarded message difficult to read.  I prefer to use
normal Forward to strip the HTML crap; but that is the only mode where the
whitespace destroys the appearance.  Hence my query about "different code
segment?"...

>	Anyway, you dont need html to reply, if you really need the
>original html version, forward as attach or reply and attach the 
>old email.

In a short, simple message, I usually normal Forward and manually add
the whitespace back in; but that really, really sucks on longer messages.

>	The only occasion i do miss html is when i need to correct
>a table sent via html... small ones one can fake with text, but
>bigger ones are harder.

Similar issue...  :)

>higuita

Thanks for responding,
Pierre




From John at wexfordpress.com  Mon Jun 18 16:12:26 2012
From: John at wexfordpress.com (john Culleton)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:12:26 -0400
Subject: [Users] Overnight mystery.
Message-ID: <20120618101226.30462592@sda3.wexfordpress.net>

My XFCE4 install works fine except for one problem. Overnight it
takes me back to the kdm signon screen. Or it kills the Slackware OS
altogether. When I sign on again I get the optional hints menu. I
check the do not display choice but the next time I have to sign
on again the hints menu shows up again.

-- 
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From ricardo at mones.org  Mon Jun 18 16:23:49 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:23:49 +0200
Subject: [Users] Overnight mystery.
In-Reply-To: <20120618101226.30462592@sda3.wexfordpress.net>
References: <20120618101226.30462592@sda3.wexfordpress.net>
Message-ID: <20120618142349.GG26603@trasgu>

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:12:26AM -0400, john Culleton wrote:
> My XFCE4 install works fine except for one problem. Overnight it
> takes me back to the kdm signon screen. Or it kills the Slackware OS
> altogether. When I sign on again I get the optional hints menu. I
> check the do not display choice but the next time I have to sign
> on again the hints menu shows up again.

  And how are these facts related with Claws Mail??

  puzzled,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  The three principal virtues of a programmer are Laziness, 
  Impatience, and Hubris.                                    man perl

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From gour at atmarama.net  Mon Jun 18 17:31:52 2012
From: gour at atmarama.net (Gour)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:31:52 +0200
Subject: [Users] Overnight mystery.
References: <20120618101226.30462592@sda3.wexfordpress.net>
	<20120618142349.GG26603@trasgu>
Message-ID: <jrnhl8$40b$1@dough.gmane.org>

On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:23:49 +0200
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:

>   And how are these facts related with Claws Mail??

Take a look at the Subject line. ;)


Sincerely,
Gour


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who lives free from desires, who has given up all sense of 
proprietorship and is devoid of false ego — he alone can 
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From fresneda at gmail.com  Wed Jun 20 01:57:33 2012
From: fresneda at gmail.com (Rodrigo Fresneda)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:57:33 -0300
Subject: [Users] strange network behavior II
Message-ID: <20120619205733.7e1c2777@dirac.quantum.org>


There is something bizarre going on with claws' interaction
with gmail imap. Besides the sluggishness I have reported
previously, I discovered a different phenomenon: sometimes,
emails sent via claws are registered multiple times in gmail's
web ui, though my recipient only receives the (entire) one message,
fortunately. Something like:

first message:

There is something bizarre going on

second message:


There is something bizarre going on with claws' interaction
with gmail imap. Besides the sluggishness

third message:

There is something bizarre going on with claws' interaction
with gmail imap. Besides the sluggishness I have reported
previously, I discovered a different phenomenon

and so forth.

I forgot to mention, but I use google's two-step verification. 
Could this have anything to do with all these issues?




From linxt at comcast.net  Wed Jun 20 02:43:10 2012
From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 17:43:10 -0700
Subject: [Users] Strange behavior since last OS upgrade
Message-ID: <20120619174310.5dd843ee@desktop-1.home>

Ever since that most recent operating system upgrade, anytime I click on a link in
CM messages, it immediately transfers me to the Firefox window.  In the past I could
click on several links before later transferring to FF to read the links.

Upgrade from openSuSE 12.2-M3 to openSuSE-ẞ1
Firefox went from 11.0 to 13.0
Claws-Mail version did not change!!

Going through the various configuration files I haven't found what is causing the
immediate transfer.  The programs are run in separate desktops (CM in 5, FF in 6)
and the desktops are being switched.

I haven't seen any messages in either this list or the openSuSE lists and am
wondering if I'm the only user it's happening to?

Thanks, Tom

-- 
“What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world
remains and is immortal.”  Albert Pine

Tom Taylor - retired penguin
AMD Phenom II x4 955 -- 4GB RAM -- 2x1.5TB sata2
openSUSE 12.1x86_64    openSUSE 12.2x86_64
KDE 4.7.2, FF 7.0      KDE 4.8.4, FF 13.0
claws-mail 3.8.0
registered linux user 263467
linxt-At-comcast-DoT-net


From andrej at kacian.sk  Wed Jun 20 08:57:55 2012
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:57:55 +0200
Subject: [Users] Strange behavior since last OS upgrade
In-Reply-To: <20120619174310.5dd843ee@desktop-1.home>
References: <20120619174310.5dd843ee@desktop-1.home>
Message-ID: <20120620085755.204b4765@hiker>

On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 17:43:10 -0700
Thomas Taylor <linxt at comcast.net> wrote:

> Ever since that most recent operating system upgrade, anytime I click
> on a link in CM messages, it immediately transfers me to the Firefox
> window.  In the past I could click on several links before later
> transferring to FF to read the links.
> 
> Upgrade from openSuSE 12.2-M3 to openSuSE-ẞ1
> Firefox went from 11.0 to 13.0
> Claws-Mail version did not change!!

Hello Thomas,

did your desktop environment (version or otherwise) change? AFAIK,
"focus stealing" is feature of window manager. For example, KDE has a
few settings dealing with "focus stealing prevention".

Kind regards,
-- 
Andrej


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 20 09:52:05 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:52:05 +0100
Subject: [Users] strange network behavior II
In-Reply-To: <20120619205733.7e1c2777@dirac.quantum.org>
References: <20120619205733.7e1c2777@dirac.quantum.org>
Message-ID: <20120620085205.36001b22@thewildbeast>

On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:57:33 -0300
Rodrigo Fresneda <fresneda at gmail.com> wrote: 

> There is something bizarre going on with claws' interaction
> with gmail imap. Besides the sluggishness I have reported
> previously, I discovered a different phenomenon: sometimes,
> emails sent via claws are registered multiple times in gmail's
> web ui, though my recipient only receives the (entire) one message,
> fortunately. Something like:

That's not particularly strange. That's because gmail imap cannot
handle incremental saves to the drafts folder.

So what you can do is

* turn off automatic saves to drafts (/Prefs/Compose/Writing)

or

* use a drafts folder which is not on gmail's imap server (choose
  from the account prefs)

Thirdly, you could suggest to gmail that they make their imap follow
the standards.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From ricardo at mones.org  Wed Jun 20 09:52:26 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:52:26 +0200
Subject: [Users] strange network behavior II
In-Reply-To: <20120619205733.7e1c2777@dirac.quantum.org>
References: <20120619205733.7e1c2777@dirac.quantum.org>
Message-ID: <20120620075226.GC2678@trasgu>

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 08:57:33PM -0300, Rodrigo Fresneda wrote:
> 
> There is something bizarre going on with claws' interaction
> with gmail imap. Besides the sluggishness I have reported
> previously,

  I use it daily and that's mainly dependant on your network and
your location, nothing to do with the client you use (of course
their web client is faster, but that's for what they optimise, so
no surprise here)

> I discovered a different phenomenon: sometimes,
> emails sent via claws are registered multiple times in gmail's
> web ui, though my recipient only receives the (entire) one message,
> fortunately. Something like:
> 
> first message:
> 
> There is something bizarre going on
> 
> second message:
> 
> 
> There is something bizarre going on with claws' interaction
> with gmail imap. Besides the sluggishness
> 
> third message:
> 
> There is something bizarre going on with claws' interaction
> with gmail imap. Besides the sluggishness I have reported
> previously, I discovered a different phenomenon
> 
> and so forth.

  Disable automatic drafting or set drafting folder to a local one instead
of using Gmail's draft folder.
 
> I forgot to mention, but I use google's two-step verification. 
> Could this have anything to do with all these issues?

  What's that for?

  regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
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  Impatience, and Hubris.                                    man perl

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From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org  Wed Jun 20 10:47:11 2012
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) Olgiati)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 04:47:11 -0400
Subject: [Users] Migrating mail filtering rules from KMAil to Claws-Mail
Message-ID: <201206200447.11567.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>

Some pointers on how I did it, in case it can be of help to others.
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
-- 
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                                                         -- Eric Hoffer
                                    
                   -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --



Migrating mail filtering rules from KMAil to Claws-Mail

Getting fed up with KDE as the years go by and KDE becomes more and more 
bloatware, I finally decided to bite the bullet,  to get rid of KDE and move 
to a lighter Desktop Environment; the only thing keeping me in KDE was KMail, 
with over 125 filtering rules I did not relish entering one by one using the 
Claws-MailGUI.

So I looked into how could I speed up the process by working directly on the 
config files.

In KMail, the filter rules are part of ~/.kde4/share/config/kmailrc where each 
rule is in a paragraph beginning with [FilterN] with N the ID number of the 
rule. In Claws-Mail, they are in ~/.claws-mail/matcherrc, where each rule 
occupys one line.

Since about 95% of my rules were based on whether a given string was present 
in either the Subject header, the From header or the whole message, and simply 
moved the message to a given folder, I have decided to concentrate on those, 
and do with the GUI the few remaining and more complicated rules.

For the rules based on the presence of a string, in KMail each rule has lines 
for name= (the name of the rule), one or several filedA, fieldB etc lines for 
Subject, Message, From etc, the same number of contentsA, contentsB etc lines 
for the strings, an action-args line for the name of the folder, and an 
action-name=transfer indicating what the rule does; dead simple.

In Claws-Mail, each rule line starts with 'enabled rulename "Name Of The 
Rule"' indicating the rule is active, and called 'Name Of The Rule', then one 
or several 'subject matchcase "string1"', 'from matchcase "string2"' or 
'message matchcase "string3"' that indicate which header to filter on with 
what string, those being separated by '|' if any condition is sufficient for 
the rule, and '&' if all conditions must be fulfilled.

So I started by making a dummy rule file with the gui, which I then edited 
using Kwrite; it holds the building blocks I will use for cutting and pasting 
the rules together, with the addition of strings I will cut and paste from 
kmailrc :

	[preglobal]

	[postglobal]

	[filtering]

	enabled rulename "" subject matchcase "" move "#mh/mailmh/" 
	enabled rulename "" from matchcase "" move "#mh/mailmh/" 
	enabled rulename "" message matchcase "" move "#mh/mailmh/" 
	| subject matchcase "" 
	| from matchcase "" 
	| message matchcase "" 

Mode d'Emploi :

Start building your rule with one of the three 'enabled rulename....' 
segments, depending on whether the first condition of your rule is on Subject, 
From or Message. If your rule is on Message Body, Any Header etc adjust to 
suit.
Add | subject..., | from.... and | message...  segments to match all the 
FieldA, FieldB, etc in the Kmail rule, to build the skeleton of the rule.
Copy and paste the name, contentsA, B etc. and action-arg strings from kmailrc 
in their places between the "" in your rule skeleton.
And Presto, your rule is done. If your rule depends on all conditions being 
fulfilled together, replace all the '|' of the rule with '&'. If you want your 
rule to be case-sensitive, use 'match' instead of 'matchcase'.

While a rule in KMail is limited to eight conditions, there does not seem to 
be any such limitation in Claws-Mail, which means that if you were compelled 
in KMail to split a rule in several rules doing the same action, you can bring 
them all together in Claws-Mail.

To check for mis-pasted or forgotten strings, search your file for the strings 
'""' and 'mailmh/"'.

Once you have finished editing matcherrc, you will have to restart Claws-Mail 
for the new filter rules to be taken into account.

enabled rulename "test1" subject matchcase "Test2" move "#mh/mailmh/trash" 
mark_as_read
enabled rulename "test2" from matchcase "olgiati" & subject matchcase "test" & 
subject match "Case Sensitive" & from regexpcase "ABC*"
 & headers_part matchcase "headers" & body_part matchcase "body" & message 
matchcase "whole message" delete


A quick syntax and vocabulary :

enabled | disabled : whether the rule is active or not.

rulename "string" : the identifier of the rule.

[ from | subject | message | body_part | headers_part ] [match | matchcase | 
regexpcase ] "string" Where to look for the string, and how (case sensitive, 
insensitive, regular expression) A tilde ~ at the beginning implies a 
negation.of the condition. | means OR, & means AND and the two should not 
AFAIK be mixed in a rule.

[move "#mh/mailmh/string" | delete] : move message to the mail folder string, 
or delete it.
 



From linxt at comcast.net  Wed Jun 20 21:04:21 2012
From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:04:21 -0700
Subject: [Users] Strange behavior since last OS upgrade
In-Reply-To: <20120620085755.204b4765@hiker>
References: <20120619174310.5dd843ee@desktop-1.home>
	<20120620085755.204b4765@hiker>
Message-ID: <20120620120421.1d0a2f9f@desktop-1.home>

On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:57:55 +0200
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote about Re: [Users] Strange behavior since last
OS upgrade:
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 17:43:10 -0700
> Thomas Taylor <linxt at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > Ever since that most recent operating system upgrade, anytime I click
> > on a link in CM messages, it immediately transfers me to the Firefox
> > window.  In the past I could click on several links before later
> > transferring to FF to read the links.
> > 
> > Upgrade from openSuSE 12.2-M3 to openSuSE-ẞ1
> > Firefox went from 11.0 to 13.0
> > Claws-Mail version did not change!!
> 
> Hello Thomas,
> 
> did your desktop environment (version or otherwise) change? AFAIK,
> "focus stealing" is feature of window manager. For example, KDE has a
> few settings dealing with "focus stealing prevention".
> 
> Kind regards,

Hi Andrej,
Thank you for the reply.  Yes, the version of KDE did increase and I haven't found
the settings regarding focus stealing.  Would you be kind enough to point out to me
those which you know about?  Kwin is the window manager and I have casually perused
its configuration files but not been able to find applicable items, most likely
because I don't know precisely what to look for.

Tom

-- 
“What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world
remains and is immortal.”  Albert Pine

Tom Taylor - retired penguin
AMD Phenom II x4 955 -- 4GB RAM -- 2x1.5TB sata2
openSUSE 12.1x86_64    openSUSE 12.2x86_64
KDE 4.7.2, FF 7.0      KDE 4.8.4, FF 13.0
claws-mail 3.8.0
registered linux user 263467
linxt-At-comcast-DoT-net


From andrej at kacian.sk  Wed Jun 20 21:49:16 2012
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 21:49:16 +0200
Subject: [Users] Strange behavior since last OS upgrade
In-Reply-To: <20120620120421.1d0a2f9f@desktop-1.home>
References: <20120619174310.5dd843ee@desktop-1.home>
	<20120620085755.204b4765@hiker>
	<20120620120421.1d0a2f9f@desktop-1.home>
Message-ID: <20120620214916.4b545f7f@penny>

On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:04:21 -0700
Thomas Taylor <linxt at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Andrej,
> Thank you for the reply.  Yes, the version of KDE did increase and I haven't
> found the settings regarding focus stealing.  Would you be kind enough to
> point out to me those which you know about?  Kwin is the window manager and
> I have casually perused its configuration files but not been able to find
> applicable items, most likely because I don't know precisely what to look
> for.

Hello Thomas,

it is in systemsettings (assuming you're using KDE 4), in "Window behavior"
module. It can be also overridden for certain applications/windows.

-- 
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian dot sk>


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 20 22:06:04 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 22:06:04 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1090] Standard-folders appear again after rescanning
	tree
In-Reply-To: <bug-1090-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1090-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20120620200604.B78A2853BB@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1090





--- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian  2012-06-20 22:06:03 ---
Created an attachment (id=1118)
 --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1118)
Proper fix

Attached patch solves this more properly (i.e. creating special dirs as
necessary, instead of not caring at all if any of them is missing).

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 20 22:14:35 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 22:14:35 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1090] Standard-folders appear again after rescanning
	tree
In-Reply-To: <bug-1090-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1090-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20120620201435.45D61853BB@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1090





--- Comment #4 from users  2012-06-20 22:14:34 ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest CVS and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://www.claws-mail.org/tracker/

2012-06-20 [ticho]    3.8.0cvs55

    * src/mh.c
        Fix for bug #1090 - Standard-folders appear again
        after rescanning tree

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 20 22:14:36 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 22:14:36 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1090] Standard-folders appear again after rescanning
	tree
In-Reply-To: <bug-1090-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1090-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20120620201436.E4FCB853BB@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1090


Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |FIXED




--- Comment #5 from Andrej Kacian  2012-06-20 22:14:36 ---
Fix committed to CVS, with some additional checks compared to the patch.

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From linxt at comcast.net  Thu Jun 21 00:54:36 2012
From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:54:36 -0700
Subject: [Users] Strange behavior since last OS upgrade
In-Reply-To: <20120620214916.4b545f7f@penny>
References: <20120619174310.5dd843ee@desktop-1.home>
	<20120620085755.204b4765@hiker>
	<20120620120421.1d0a2f9f@desktop-1.home>
	<20120620214916.4b545f7f@penny>
Message-ID: <20120620155436.7e72b714@desktop-1.home>

On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 21:49:16 +0200
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote about Re: [Users] Strange behavior since last
OS upgrade:
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:04:21 -0700
> Thomas Taylor <linxt at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Andrej,
> > Thank you for the reply.  Yes, the version of KDE did increase and I haven't
> > found the settings regarding focus stealing.  Would you be kind enough to
> > point out to me those which you know about?  Kwin is the window manager and
> > I have casually perused its configuration files but not been able to find
> > applicable items, most likely because I don't know precisely what to look
> > for.
> 
> Hello Thomas,
> 
> it is in systemsettings (assuming you're using KDE 4), in "Window behavior"
> module. It can be also overridden for certain applications/windows.
> 

Thanks Andrej,
Hadn't looked there.  Appears to be what I wanted.

Tom

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remains and is immortal.”  Albert Pine

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AMD Phenom II x4 955 -- 4GB RAM -- 2x1.5TB sata2
openSUSE 12.1x86_64    openSUSE 12.2x86_64
KDE 4.7.2, FF 7.0      KDE 4.8.4, FF 13.0
claws-mail 3.8.0
registered linux user 263467
linxt-At-comcast-DoT-net


From fresneda at gmail.com  Thu Jun 21 20:44:26 2012
From: fresneda at gmail.com (Rodrigo Fresneda)
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 15:44:26 -0300
Subject: [Users] strange network behavior II
In-Reply-To: <20120620075226.GC2678@trasgu>
References: <20120619205733.7e1c2777@dirac.quantum.org>
	<20120620075226.GC2678@trasgu>
Message-ID: <CAFRVzRpMEU7boz7rwgKOnodV=dHhZUVAjqsLR+hzoFUB+D5c_Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 4:52 AM, Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 08:57:33PM -0300, Rodrigo Fresneda wrote:
> >
> > There is something bizarre going on with claws' interaction
> > with gmail imap. Besides the sluggishness I have reported
> > previously,
>
>   I use it daily and that's mainly dependant on your network and
> your location, nothing to do with the client you use (of course
> their web client is faster, but that's for what they optimise, so
> no surprise here)
>
>
>

It is not a problem with my connection, because other clients don't lag
this much. Just to give you an idea, just now I was fetching a 10.94kb
message, and it took
over 24s! (see below).

imap.c:1470:IMAP fetching messages
imap.c:1481:getting message 78240...
imap-thread.c:2484:imap fetch_content - begin
imap-thread.c:390:found imap 0x6a23040
imap-thread.c:390:found imap 0x6a23040
[15:33:21] IMAP4> 14 UID FETCH 78240 BODY.PEEK[]
[15:33:26] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1400 bytes]
[15:33:26] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1400 bytes]
[15:33:27] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1400 bytes]
[15:33:27] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1400 bytes]
[15:33:28] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1400 bytes]
[15:33:28] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1400 bytes]
[15:33:28] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1400 bytes]
[15:33:28] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 440 bytes]
[15:33:28] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1001 bytes]
[15:33:28] IMAP4< )
[15:33:28] IMAP4< 14 OK Success
imap-thread.c:2473:imap fetch_content run - end 0
imap-thread.c:406:generic_cb
imap-thread.c:2497:imap fetch_content - end
imap.c:526:unlocking session 0x57d3000
folder.c:4622:Folder fresneda at imap.gmail.com wants sync
folder.c:4622:Folder fresneda at imap.gmail.com wants sync
procmsg.c:1927:Setting flags for message 78240 in folder INBOX
folder.c:1216:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:974:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service
files
folder.c:1216:Counting total number of messages...
    message/rfc822 (offset:0 length:10993 encoding: 6)
        multipart/alternative (offset:2120 length:8873 encoding: 6)
            text/plain (offset:2241 length:2348 encoding: 3)
            text/html (offset:4710 length:6250 encoding: 3)
procmsg.c:1927:Setting flags for message 78240 in folder INBOX
folder.c:1216:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:974:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service
files
folder.c:1216:Counting total number of messages...
    message/rfc822 (offset:0 length:10993 encoding: 6)
        multipart/alternative (offset:2120 length:8873 encoding: 6)
            text/plain (offset:2241 length:2348 encoding: 3)
            text/html (offset:4710 length:6250 encoding: 3)
mimeview.c:842:text/html
fancy_viewer.c:94:fancy_get_widget: 0x1436000
summaryview.c:3344:flags: doing unset now
procmsg.c:1970:Unsetting flags for message 78240 in folder INBOX
imap.c:4402:getting session...
imap.c:4446:IMAP changing flags
imap-thread.c:3155:imap store - begin
imap-thread.c:390:found imap 0x6a23040
imap-thread.c:390:found imap 0x6a23040
[15:33:28] IMAP4> 15 UID STORE 78240 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen)
fancy_viewer.c:122:filename:
/home/fresneda/.claws-mail/mimetmp/0000006f.mimetmp.html
fancy_viewer.c:139:using ISO-8859-1 charset
fancy_viewer.c:142:zoom_level: 100
[15:33:30] IMAP4< 15 OK Success
imap-thread.c:3145:imap store run - end 0
imap-thread.c:406:generic_cb
imap-thread.c:3167:imap store - end
folder.c:1216:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:974:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by any .service
files
folder.c:1216:Counting total number of messages...
folder.c:4622:Folder fresneda at imap.gmail.com wants sync
folder.c:4622:Folder fresneda at imap.gmail.com wants sync
folder.c:4622:Folder fresneda at imap.gmail.com wants sync
folder.c:4622:Folder fresneda at imap.gmail.com wants sync
folder.c:4622:Folder fresneda at imap.gmail.com wants sync
folder.c:4622:Folder fresneda at imap.gmail.com wants sync
summaryview.c:3549:TIMING summary_display_msg_full : 24s658ms
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From fresneda at gmail.com  Thu Jun 21 20:46:29 2012
From: fresneda at gmail.com (Rodrigo Fresneda)
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 15:46:29 -0300
Subject: [Users] strange network behavior II
In-Reply-To: <20120620085205.36001b22@thewildbeast>
References: <20120619205733.7e1c2777@dirac.quantum.org>
	<20120620085205.36001b22@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <CAFRVzRq41gW9F=j8FUZuvkUeX44=2P2XZuCKWTZzQrE4V569Tw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks! I didn't suspect claws did incremental saves, neat!

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 4:52 AM, Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

>
> That's not particularly strange. That's because gmail imap cannot
> handle incremental saves to the drafts folder.
>
>

> So what you can do is
>
> * turn off automatic saves to drafts (/Prefs/Compose/Writing)
>
> or
>
> * use a drafts folder which is not on gmail's imap server (choose
>  from the account prefs)
>
> Thirdly, you could suggest to gmail that they make their imap follow
> the standards.
>
> with regards
>
> Paul
>
>
> --
> It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me,
> but to a collector it is worth a fortune
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From fresneda at gmail.com  Thu Jun 21 20:52:02 2012
From: fresneda at gmail.com (Rodrigo Fresneda)
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 15:52:02 -0300
Subject: [Users] strange network behavior II
In-Reply-To: <20120620075226.GC2678@trasgu>
References: <20120619205733.7e1c2777@dirac.quantum.org>
	<20120620075226.GC2678@trasgu>
Message-ID: <CAFRVzRqBRX9q2-58Q02ZxjYrEPTrh9tfq3XHCMJKJ184tYrejw@mail.gmail.com>

>
> > I forgot to mention, but I use google's two-step verification.
> > Could this have anything to do with all these issues?
>
>   What's that for?
>
>
>
It is an extra security step when authenticating to my google account:
 https://support.google.com/accounts/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=180744
In practice, to access my gmail account via claws, I have to generate once
an application-specific password.

thanks,
rodrigo.
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From ricardo at mones.org  Fri Jun 22 12:13:57 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 12:13:57 +0200
Subject: [Users] strange network behavior II
In-Reply-To: <CAFRVzRpMEU7boz7rwgKOnodV=dHhZUVAjqsLR+hzoFUB+D5c_Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20120619205733.7e1c2777@dirac.quantum.org>
	<20120620075226.GC2678@trasgu>
	<CAFRVzRpMEU7boz7rwgKOnodV=dHhZUVAjqsLR+hzoFUB+D5c_Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20120622101357.GN2678@trasgu>

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 03:44:26PM -0300, Rodrigo Fresneda wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 4:52 AM, Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 08:57:33PM -0300, Rodrigo Fresneda wrote:
> > >
> > > There is something bizarre going on with claws' interaction
> > > with gmail imap. Besides the sluggishness I have reported
> > > previously,
> >
> >   I use it daily and that's mainly dependant on your network and
> > your location, nothing to do with the client you use (of course
> > their web client is faster, but that's for what they optimise, so
> > no surprise here)
> >
> 
> It is not a problem with my connection, because other clients don't lag
> this much. Just to give you an idea, just now I was fetching a 10.94kb
> message, and it took
> over 24s! (see below).

  24s? Not really...
 
> imap-thread.c:390:found imap 0x6a23040
> [15:33:21] IMAP4> 14 UID FETCH 78240 BODY.PEEK[]
...
> [15:33:28] IMAP4< 14 OK Success

  That's 7 seconds to fetch.

> [15:33:28] IMAP4> 15 UID STORE 78240 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen)
...
> [15:33:30] IMAP4< 15 OK Success

  Or 9 if you count flags store in.

> folder.c:4622:Folder fresneda at imap.gmail.com wants sync
> folder.c:4622:Folder fresneda at imap.gmail.com wants sync
> folder.c:4622:Folder fresneda at imap.gmail.com wants sync
> folder.c:4622:Folder fresneda at imap.gmail.com wants sync
> folder.c:4622:Folder fresneda at imap.gmail.com wants sync
> folder.c:4622:Folder fresneda at imap.gmail.com wants sync

  Try disabling synchronise for offline use in the folder properties,
that's probably introducing delays.

> summaryview.c:3549:TIMING summary_display_msg_full : 24s658ms

  Hmm, that number seems wrong, I got >30s in a single message open but
it opened instantly.

  regards,
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  ~
  00:45 < hammar> cool.. have you used rssyl?                          
  00:46 <@Ticho> um, yes                            Seen on #sylpheed

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From fresneda at gmail.com  Fri Jun 22 22:24:21 2012
From: fresneda at gmail.com (Rodrigo Fresneda)
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 17:24:21 -0300
Subject: [Users] strange network behavior II
In-Reply-To: <20120622101357.GN2678@trasgu>
References: <20120619205733.7e1c2777@dirac.quantum.org>
	<20120620075226.GC2678@trasgu>
	<CAFRVzRpMEU7boz7rwgKOnodV=dHhZUVAjqsLR+hzoFUB+D5c_Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<20120622101357.GN2678@trasgu>
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Hi, thanks for your answer,

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 03:44:26PM -0300, Rodrigo Fresneda wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 4:52 AM, Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
> wrote:
>
>
>   24s? Not really...
>

Well, it was actually longer, but I know of no other way of reporting the
time it takes to fetch a single message, other than sending the logs, which
you remarked are not trustworthy.


 Try disabling synchronise for offline use in the folder properties,

> that's probably introducing delays.
>
>
I have tried that, but it doesn't affect this issue noticeably. But I will
give it a try again. Are there any other configuration settings that might
help?

thanks,
rodrigo.


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 24 19:44:30 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 19:44:30 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2680] New: Keys e,f,b not works
Message-ID: <bug-2680-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2680

           Summary: Keys e,f,b not works
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: other
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Compose Window
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: azbukav at yandex.ru
                CC: azbukav at yandex.ru


Hello,

If I try to reply to message, or write new, keys e,f,b is not work. Instead of
it, the cursor is moving down, forvard or back. This happens only in Claws mail
internal editor, in different keyboards. Claws mail version - 3.7.6-4 and
3.8.0, amd64. Keyboard properties is usual 105 keys.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 24 19:55:29 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 19:55:29 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2680] Keys e,f,b not works
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2680


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--- Comment #1 from Paul  2012-06-24 19:55:28 ---
I believe that you must have (accidentally) set these keys as keyboard
shortcuts.
http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Interface#How_can_I_change_the_key-bindings_.28hot-keys.29_in_Claws_Mail.3F

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 1312 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 24 19:55:29 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 19:55:29 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1312] Shift-H to close the compose window is a problem
In-Reply-To: <bug-1312-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1312-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1312


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--- Comment #3 from Paul  2012-06-24 19:55:28 ---
*** Bug 2680 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From mistlail at yahoo.co.uk  Sun Jun 24 20:41:10 2012
From: mistlail at yahoo.co.uk (mistlail at yahoo.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 11:41:10 -0700
Subject: [Users] infer flags
Message-ID: <20120624114110.0af0732a@nance>

I recently imported some mbox files
and I notice they have no flags
so I'm wondering if there is a way
to make Claws infer flags
(e.g., replied, forwarded, attachment, &c.)

thanks
askye


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 24 21:23:04 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 21:23:04 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2680] Keys e,f,b not works
In-Reply-To: <bug-2680-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2680-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2680


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--- Comment #2 from Dmitri  2012-06-24 21:23:03 ---
Yes... In my case, in the compose window, in menu Edit->Additional (I translate
this from russian) I found shortcut to keys e,f,b. When I change it to Ctrl-e,
Ctrl-f, Ctrl-b - all works fine.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Jun 24 21:31:12 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 21:31:12 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2680] Keys e,f,b not works
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2680


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From Ian.Hamilton at AAUG.net  Mon Jun 25 10:42:52 2012
From: Ian.Hamilton at AAUG.net (Ian)
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:42:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] Suggestion - 'Process after Send'
Message-ID: <20120625094252.2257cbe1@ian-desktop>


If you have 'Processing' filters set on a 'Sent' folder it would be
useful if these were run automatically after the 'Queue' empties. 

I have a few filters that move mail from the 'Sent' folder to another
but at the moment until I click on the folder they aren't moved. If I
go to search for an email it might not have been 'processed' yet so
isn't there.


From mistlail at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Jun 25 21:08:50 2012
From: mistlail at yahoo.co.uk (mistlail at yahoo.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:08:50 -0700
Subject: [Users] Suggestion - 'Process after Send'
In-Reply-To: <20120625094252.2257cbe1@ian-desktop>
References: <20120625094252.2257cbe1@ian-desktop>
Message-ID: <20120625120850.34fc069a@nance>

> If you have 'Processing' filters set on a 'Sent' folder it would be
> useful if these were run automatically after the 'Queue' empties. 

and one wonders why filters are limited to incoming messages

options to enable filtering for outgoing messages would also be useful
(so rules can be kept in one place rather than two)


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 08:50:31 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 08:50:31 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2681] New: MIME Multipart message fails to display if
 preamble is encoded
Message-ID: <bug-2681-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2681

           Summary: MIME Multipart message fails to display if preamble is
                    encoded
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.0
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: SMTP
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: hsw at openmoko.com


If a message is in MIME format and the preamble is encoded
 e.g. Content-Type: base64
Then the entire message fails to display, and in the case of a
multipart/alternative
none of the parts show up on the RHS icon bar.  There is only a message/rfc822
icon
which indicates the message size (1.20KB).

Expanding the message structure shows shows a multipart/alternative with size
152B
but the message window is still empty.

A test message is attached based on the sample from:
http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc1341/7_2_Multipart.html


Version Info:

Claws 3.8.0

GTK+ 2.24.10 / GLib 2.32.3
Locale: en_GB.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8)
Operating System: Linux 3.2.0-25-generic (x86_64)
Ubuntu 12.04 LTS

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 08:52:52 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 08:52:52 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2681] MIME Multipart message fails to display if
 preamble is encoded
In-Reply-To: <bug-2681-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #1 from Chistopher Hall  2012-06-27 08:52:52 ---
Created an attachment (id=1119)
 --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1119)
Sample email that causes the failure

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From lmhelp1 at orange.fr  Wed Jun 27 19:04:06 2012
From: lmhelp1 at orange.fr (Lmhelp)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:04:06 -0700
Subject: [Users] Migrating emails and emails folders from "Mozilla
 Thunderbird" to "Claws Mail"
Message-ID: <20120627100406.00006726@unknown>

Hello and thank you for reading my post.

I'm migrating from "Mozilla Thunderbird" to "Claws Mail" and I'd like
to migrate my data (emails and emails folders).

In "Mozilla Thunderbird", I presently have "n" email addresses.
For each email address, I have several folders and subfolders
where I put my emails. For example, for one email address, here
is the kind of structure that I have: 
//----------------------------------
an_email_address at an_isp.ext
  - Inbox
  - Drafts
  - Sent
  - Trash
  - a_dir_1
      - a_sub_dir_1_1
          - an_email_1_1_1
          - an_email_1_1_2         
          ...
          - an_email_1_1_k1
      - a_sub_dir_1_2
      ...
      - a_sub_dir_1_n1
  - a_dir_2
      - a_sub_dir_2_1
      - a_sub_dir_2_2
      ...
      - a_sub_dir_2_n2
  ...
  - a_dir_N
      ...
//----------------------------------

I would like to retrieve all my emails and the directory structure
above in "Claws Mail".

In "Thunderbird":
1) I downloaded the "ImportExportTools" addon.

2) I chose "Tools" -> "ImportExportTools" -> "Options" -> "Export
directories" and checked "Export folders as MBOX file" to a directory
"D".

3) I then selected the email address "an_email_address at an_isp.ext" and
chose: "Tools" -> "ImportExportTools" -> "Export all the folders (with
structure)"

Now, in "Claws Mail":
1) I selected "an_email_address at an_isp.ext".
2) I created a "a_dir_1" folder.
3) I chose "Import mbox file..."
  and for the "Mbox file" parameter, I chose "D/a_dir_1" (which was
exported previously).

It ends up with an error:
"Mbox import has failed"

Can you tell me what I should do to recover my data into "Claws Mail"?
Thank you and best regards.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 10:10:05 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:10:05 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2681] MIME Multipart message fails to display if
 preamble is encoded
In-Reply-To: <bug-2681-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2681-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2681


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 10:19:08 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:19:08 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2681] MIME Multipart message fails to display if
 preamble is encoded
In-Reply-To: <bug-2681-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #2 from Colin Leroy  2012-06-27 10:19:08 ---
Hi,

This is invalid according to the very paragraph you quote (7.2):

As stated in the definition of the Content-Transfer-Encoding field, no encoding
other than "7bit", "8bit", or "binary" is permitted for entities of type
"multipart". The multipart delimiters and header fields are always 7-bit ASCII
in any case, and data within the body parts can be encoded on a part-by-part
basis, with Content-Transfer-Encoding fields for each appropriate body part.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 10:20:08 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:20:08 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2681] MIME Multipart message fails to display if
 preamble is encoded
In-Reply-To: <bug-2681-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 11:26:21 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:26:21 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1924] Messages marked move to Trash appear identical
 to messages marked move to $FOLDER
In-Reply-To: <bug-1924-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1924-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1924


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 11:27:29 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:27:29 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2501] opened message blanks when moved to other folder
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 11:28:01 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:28:01 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2574] Statement might be overflowing a buffer in
	strncat.
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From ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 14:54:11 2012
From: ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk (Kevin Chadwick)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:54:11 +0100
Subject: [Users] Migrating emails and emails folders from "Mozilla
 Thunderbird" to "Claws Mail"
In-Reply-To: <20120627100406.00006726@unknown>
References: <20120627100406.00006726@unknown>
Message-ID: <785386.97889.bm@smtp147.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

> Now, in "Claws Mail":
> 1) I selected "an_email_address at an_isp.ext".
> 2) I created a "a_dir_1" folder.
> 3) I chose "Import mbox file..."
>   and for the "Mbox file" parameter, I chose "D/a_dir_1" (which was
> exported previously).
> 
> It ends up with an error:
> "Mbox import has failed"
> 
> Can you tell me what I should do to recover my data into "Claws Mail"?
> Thank you and best regards.

I don't know but I imagine it's a non plain mbox format, though I
didn't know it existed or corrupted??

If a standard exported file works you could open them in a text editor
and compare.

and/or

If a standard single folder export works. You may be better of exporting
all mails to a single mbox. Migrating any filters you have, I believe
there is a plugin to migrate filters from thunderbird. Create folders
and run the filtering on all of them. 


p.s. I recall there may even be a tool specifically to migrate almost
everything form thunderbird to claws but I forget the specifics.

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 15:48:18 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:48:18 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.1 unleashed!!
Message-ID: <20120627144818.02b68953@thewildbeast>

27th June 2012                                      Claws Mail 3.8.1

		    CLAWS MAIL  RELEASE NOTES
                    http://www.claws-mail.org
		      
Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast 
email client.

New in this release:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

* Replied and Forwarded message status flags are now non-exclusive.
  Introduced a new message state (and relevant icon in message list)
  where both the Replied and Forwarded flags are set

* 'Send to...' has been added to the context menu of a message's
  parts. This causes a new Compose window to open with the selected
  mime part attached.

* 'Hide' and 'View Log' buttons have been added to the Send and
   Receive dialogues. The former will hide the dialogue, the latter
   will open the Network Log dialogue.

* A short symbol has been added the QuickSearch Extended mode: 'ha',
  an abbreviated form of 'has_attachment'.

* Basic session statistics are now available, from the Statistics
  tab in About dialog and the command-line.

* The display of attached patches, (text/x-patch or text/x-diff), is
  now colourised. The colours are controlled by 3 new hidden
  preferences: diff_added_color, diff_deleted_color, and
  diff_hunk_color.

* Updated translations: Brazilian Portuguese, Czech, German, French,
  Hungarian, Indonesian, Lithuanian, Simplified Chinese, Slovak,
  Spanish, Swedish, Traditional Chinese.

* Bug fixes:
	o bug 1090, 'Standard-folders appear again after rescanning
  tree' o bug 1924, 'Messages marked move to Trash appear identical to
		     messages marked move to $FOLDER'
	o bug 2598, 'Actions can move locked messages'
	o bug 2501, 'opened message blanks when moved to other folder'
	o bug 2574, 'Statement might be overflowing a buffer in
  strncat' o bug 2577, 'Focus rectangle on folder list and message
		     list headings doesn't get properly cleared when
  switching heading and horizontally scrolling list (underlines and
                     vertical lines remain on screen)'
	o bug 2582, 'Expanded mimeview drag n drop no longer works'
	o bug 2595, 'Change expand behavior for message list /
  message view' o bug 2620, 'shift+tab from subject field not working'
	o bug 2624, 'dialog "Action Configuration" cannot be closed'
	o bug 2646, 'Compile fails with gnutls-3.0.18'
	o bug 2659, 'E-mail attachments are handled inconsistently'
	o bug 2662, '"ag" quicksearch adds "1" to value'
	o Fix bug in search criteria when doing a complete directory
	  search using '*'
	o Fix GTK+2.16 build (w32)
	o Fix sensitivity of toolbar's get_btn (retrieve mail from
  current account) and of mainwindows's relevant entry when current
  account is not able to retrieve (SMTP-only).
	o don't do TLS if not requested by user. fixes connecting to
  servers which, for example, want SSL 3 only

For further details of the numbered bugs listed above consult
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 15:49:08 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:49:08 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail Extra Plugins 3.8.1 unleashed!!
Message-ID: <20120627144908.18d2a1d5@thewildbeast>

27th June 2012                         Claws Mail Extra Plugins 3.8.1
---------------------------------------------------------------------

The claws-mail-extra-plugins-3.8.1 package contains 22 plugins.

This release reintroduces the PDF Viewer plugin, which can now be
included due to an upstream license change.

Notes for this release
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

* acpi Notifier 1.0.27
  Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>

  Enables mail notification via LEDs on some laptops. Options can be
  found on the 'Plugins/Acpi Notifier' page of the preferences.
  
  Changes: Updated translations: French, Hungarian, Indonesian,
	   Slovak.

* Address Keeper 1.0.6
  Author: Ricardo Mones Lastra <ricardo at mones.org>
  
  Keeps all recipient addresses in an addressbook folder.
  
  Changes: Updated translations: French, Hungarian, Slovak.
	   Add translation: Lithuanian.
  
* Archiver 0.6.12
  Author: Michael Rasmussen <mir at datanom.net>

  This plugin adds archiving features to Claws Mail.

  It enables you to select a mail folder that you want to be archived,
  and then choose a name, format and location for the archive.
  Subfolders can be included and MD5 checksums can be added for each
  file in the archive. Several archiving options are also available.

  The archive can be stored as: TAR, PAX, SHAR or CPIO

  The archive can be compressed using: GZIP/ZIP or BZIP2

  The archives can be restored with any standard tool that supports
  the chosen format and compression.

  The supported folder types are MH, IMAP, RSSyl and vCalendar.

  To activate the archiving feature go to /Tools/Create Archive

  Default options can be set in
  /Configuration/Preferences/Plugins/Mail Archiver
  
  Changes: Updated translations: French, Hungarian, Indonesian,
	   Lithuanian, Slovak.
  
* attachwarner 0.2.24
  Author: Ricardo Mones Lastra <ricardo at mones.org>

  Warns when the user composes a message mentioning an attachment in
  the message body but without attaching any files to the message.
  
  Changes: Updated translations: French, Hungarian, Indonesian,
	   Lithuanian, Slovak.
  
* att_remover 1.0.14
  Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>

  Enables the removal of attachments from emails.
  When right-clicking a message, choose 'Remove attachments' from 
  the submenu.
  
  Changes: Fix crash when removing attachments from forwarded
	   messages.
	   Fix non-root compilations.

* bsfilter 1.0.8
  Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>

  This plugin can check all messages that are received from an
  IMAP, LOCAL or POP account for spam using Bsfilter.
  
  Changes: Updated translations: French, Hungarian, Indonesian,
	   Lithuanian, Slovak.

* clamd 3.5.3
  Author: Michael Rasmussen <mir at datanom.net>

  Scans all messages that are received from an IMAP, LOCAL or POP
  account using clamd (ClamAV).
  
  Changes: Updated translations: Hungarian, Slovak.
	   Add translation: Lithuanian.
  
* Fancy 0.9.16
  Author: Salvatore De Paolis <iwkse at claws-mail.org>

  This plugin renders HTML e-mail using the WebKit library.
  
  Changes: Set the user-agent.
	   disable open link with external browser when 'block
	   external content' is checked
	   Updated translations: French, Hungarian, Indonesian,
	   Lithuanian, Slovak.
	   Add translation: Swedish.

* fetchinfo 0.4.25
  Author: Claws Mail Team <users at lists.claws-mail.org>

  Inserts headers containing some download information: UIDL, 
  Claws Mail account name, POP server, user ID and retrieval time.

* GData 0.4
  Author: Holger Berndt <berndth at gmx.de>
  
  This plugin provides access to the GData protocol.
  The GData protocol is an interface to Google services.
  Currently, the only implemented functionality is to include Google
  Contacts into the Tab-address completion.
  
  Changes: Add support for libgdata 0.9.1
	   When libgdata 0.9.1 is available, only fetch contacts in
	   the "My Contacts" system group.
	   Fix compilation with --disable-nls.
	   Updated translations: Brazilian Portuguese, Czech, French,
	   Hungarian, Slovak.
	   Added translation: Lithuanian.

* GeoLocation 0.0.8
  Author: Holger Berndt <berndth at gmx.de>

  This plugin provides GeoLocation functionality.
  
  Changes: Updated translations: Brazilian Portuguese, Hungarian,
	   Indonesian, Lithuanian.

* gtkhtml2_viewer 0.33
  Authors: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>

  Renders HTML mail using the gtkhtml2 rendering widget.
  Optional requirement: libcurl (for fetching images)

  The option, 'Do not load remote links in mails' can be found
  on the 'Plugins/GtkHtml2 Viewer' page of the preferences.

  Changes: Updated translations: French, Hungarian, Indonesian,
	   Lithuanian, Slovak.
  
* mailmbox 1.14.7
  Author: Hoà Viêt Dinh <hoa at users.sf.net>

  Handles mailboxes in mbox format.

* newmail 0.0.15
  Author: H.Merijn Brand <h.m.brand at xs4all.nl>

  Writes a msg header summary to a log file (Default: ~/Mail/NewLog)
  on arrival of new mail *after* sorting.
 
* notification 0.30
  Author: Holger Berndt <berndth at gmx.de>

  Provides various ways to notify the user of new and unread email.  

  Currently implemented are the following modules:
	Banner:   A mail ticker
	Popup:    A popup window on mail arrival
	Command:  Executes a command line upon new mail arrival (NEW)
	LCDproc:  Display the status of new and unread messages
		  on an external LCD.
	Trayicon: Places an icon in the system tray that indicates
		  whether you have any new mail.

  More modules may follow in future releases. All modules can be
  activated or deactivated at compile and/or run time. Options can be
  found on the 'Plugins/Notification' pages of the preferences.
  
  Changes: Updated translations: French, Hungarian, Indonesian,
	   Lithuanian, Slovak.

* PDF Viewer 0.9.2
  Author: Salvatore De Paolis  <iwkse at claws-mail.org>

  Enables the viewing of PDF and PostScript attachments.  


* perl 0.9.19
  Author: Holger Berndt <berndth at gmx.de>

  Intended to extend the filtering possibilities of Claws Mail.
  It provides a Perl interface to Claws Mail's filtering 
  mechanism, allowing the use of full Perl power in email filters.

* Python 0.10
  Author: Holger Berndt <berndth at gmx.de>

  This plugin offers a Python scripting access to Claws Mail.

  Python code can be entered interactively into an embedded Python
  console, or stored in scripts under ~/.claws-mail/python-scripts.
  The scripts are then accessible via the menu of the main window.

  See the website for examples,
  http://www.claws-mail.org/plugin.php?plugin=python
  
  Changes: Added replyinfo to compose object.
	   Updated translations: Hungarian, Indonesian, Lithuanian.

* RSSyl 0.33
  Author: Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk>

  Allows you to read your favorite RSS newsfeeds in Claws. RSS 1.0, 
  2.0 and Atom feeds are currently supported.

  Changes: Fixed OPML export.
	   Updated translations: French, Hungarian, Indonesian,
	   Slovak.
	   Added translation: Lithuanian.
  
* SpamReport 0.3.16
  Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>

  This plugin reports spam to various places.
  
  Changes:  Updated translations: French, Hungarian, Indonesian, 
	    Lithuanian, Slovak.
  
* TNEF Parser 0.3.13
  Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>

  Enables reading application/ms-tnef attachments.
  
  Changes: Updated translations: Hungarian, Indonesian, Lithuanian.

* vCalendar 2.0.13
  Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>

  Enables vCalendar message handling like that produced by Evolution 
  or Outlook. Also supports subscribing to remote webCal feeds, and 
  exporting of your meetings or all your calendars.
  
  Changes: Updated translations: French, Hungarian, Indonesian,
	   Lithuanian, Slovak.

------------------------
See the ChangeLog and README files in each of the plugin directories 
for more detail.

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From lmhelp1 at orange.fr  Thu Jun 28 01:02:14 2012
From: lmhelp1 at orange.fr (Lmhelp)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:02:14 -0700
Subject: [Users] Migrating emails and emails folders from "Mozilla
 Thunderbird" to "Claws Mail"
In-Reply-To: <785386.97889.bm@smtp147.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <20120627100406.00006726@unknown>
	<785386.97889.bm@smtp147.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20120627160214.000008dd@unknown>

Thank you for your answer.

> Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> I don't know but I imagine it's a non plain mbox format,
> though I didn't know it existed or corrupted??

I don't know either...
I'm not doing anything special: 
1) I am used to putting my emails into directories and subdirectories
within "Mozilla Thunderbird". 
2) I want to export that structure - hierarchy of directories - along
with the emails it contains into a format compatible with "Claws Mail".
3) And finally, I want to import all that into "Claws Mail". 
And there is no reason why any file or directory should be corrupted.

..............................
SOMETHING WHICH WORKS PROPERLY
..............................
Suppose I have a simple folder "f" containing emails in "Mozilla
Thunderbird". 
If I chose: "Tools" -> "ImportExportTools" -> "Export folder", I get a
file "f" as a result. 
Prior to this, in "Tools" -> "ImportExportTools" -> "Options" ->
"Export directories", I checked the "Export folders as MBOX file" check
box. 
In "Claws Mail", if I choose: "File" -> "Import mbox file..." and
select "f": I recover my emails properly.

..............................
SOMETHING WHICH DOESN'T WORK
..............................
Now, suppose I have a folfer "f" containing two subfolders "f1" and
"f2" which in turn contain emails ("m1" to "m5"):

f
    f1
       m1
       m2
    f2
       m3
       m4
       m5

if I do the same thing as above and if I choose:
a) "Export folder with subfolders (simple)", I get three files "f",
"f1" and "f2". 
"f" size is 0. 
"f1" and "f2" have a non-zero size. 
In "Claws Mail", when I choose "File" -> "Import mbox file..." and
select "f". It fails.

b) "Export folder with subfolders (with structure)", I get
a file "f" and a folder "f.sdb".
Again "f" size is zero. 
"f.sdb" contains to files "f1" and "f2" with non-zero size. 
In "Claws Mail", if I choose, "File" -> "Import mbox file..." and
select "f". It fails again.

> Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> Migrating any filters you have, I believe there is a plugin to
> migrate filters from thunderbird.
I have no filters...

> Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> p.s. I recall there may even be a tool specifically to migrate almost
> everything form thunderbird to claws but I forget the specifics.
That could solve my problem?

So, I'm still wondering if I can import a hierarchy of folders,
subfolders and emails coming from "Mozilla Thunderbird" into "Claws
Mail" and how?

Thank you in advance for helping.
Best regards,
--
Léa



On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:54:11 +0100
Kevin Chadwick <ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> > Now, in "Claws Mail":
> > 1) I selected "an_email_address at an_isp.ext".
> > 2) I created a "a_dir_1" folder.
> > 3) I chose "Import mbox file..."
> >   and for the "Mbox file" parameter, I chose "D/a_dir_1" (which was
> > exported previously).
> > 
> > It ends up with an error:
> > "Mbox import has failed"
> > 
> > Can you tell me what I should do to recover my data into "Claws
> > Mail"? Thank you and best regards.
> 
> I don't know but I imagine it's a non plain mbox format, though I
> didn't know it existed or corrupted??
> 
> If a standard exported file works you could open them in a text editor
> and compare.
> 
> and/or
> 
> If a standard single folder export works. You may be better of
> exporting all mails to a single mbox. Migrating any filters you have,
> I believe there is a plugin to migrate filters from thunderbird.
> Create folders and run the filtering on all of them. 
> 
> 
> p.s. I recall there may even be a tool specifically to migrate almost
> everything form thunderbird to claws but I forget the specifics.
> 



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 16:05:15 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:05:15 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2682] New: Bug in UI refresh.
Message-ID: <bug-2682-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2682

           Summary: Bug in UI refresh.
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: CVS
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: Reslayer at ya.ru


When switching from a folder to folder it leaves folder background highlight on
the former folder in the tree, often smashes messages list mixing its content
with what it had there before. The only thing refreshes good is message view:
it refreshes each time a folder changes.

As soon as I redraw window content (I use awesome WM; used it when everything
was okay, use the same build when it's all not okay with claws-mail) by forcing
redraw or switching workplaces it gets redrawed okay, and if then I change
folder, it comes again.

Because I'm with Claws Mail from Ubuntu repos and use 11.10, I suppose there
was something buggy with last GTK usage changes; switching to Claws Mail
3.8.0cvs56 first without extra plugins did not change this behaviour.

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From ricardo at mones.org  Wed Jun 27 16:07:59 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:07:59 +0200
Subject: [Users] Clawsker 0.7.8 uncovered!
Message-ID: <20120627140759.GX2678@trasgu>

  Hi all,

  Just a short notice to say that Clawsker 0.7.8 has been released, to be a
good little companion and take care of Claws Mail hidden features.

  As usual, shameless copy of NEWS file:

  - Supported new hidden properties for Claws Mail 3.8.1
    for coloured display of patch attachments
  - Updated French, Spanish and Swedish translations


  regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 16:14:07 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:14:07 +0100
Subject: [Users] Migrating emails and emails folders from "Mozilla
 Thunderbird" to "Claws Mail"
In-Reply-To: <20120627160214.000008dd@unknown>
References: <20120627100406.00006726@unknown>
	<785386.97889.bm@smtp147.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
	<20120627160214.000008dd@unknown>
Message-ID: <20120627151407.3db91c0c@thewildbeast>

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:02:14 -0700
Lmhelp <lmhelp1 at orange.fr> wrote: 

> Thank you in advance for helping.

Try the mailmbox plugin.

with regards

Paul


-- 
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but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 16:18:09 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:18:09 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2682] Bug in UI refresh.
In-Reply-To: <bug-2682-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2682-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20120627141809.3F01F85449@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2682





--- Comment #1 from Paul  2012-06-27 16:18:08 ---
It doesn't sound like a Claws bug.

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From hanno at hboeck.de  Wed Jun 27 16:21:16 2012
From: hanno at hboeck.de (Hanno =?ISO-8859-1?B?QvZjaw==?=)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:21:16 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.1 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20120627144818.02b68953@thewildbeast>
References: <20120627144818.02b68953@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20120627162116.0289a274@hsalkjdhsa>

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:48:18 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> 	o don't do TLS if not requested by user. fixes connecting to
>   servers which, for example, want SSL 3 only

There's no pointer to a bug or something alike, but if this does what
it sounds like it is a terribly bad idea.

TLS is the successor of SSLv3 and offers a bunch of useful features.
For example mulptiple certificates on one IP (SNI) and better
cryptography.

If a server wants SSLv3 only, the thing a client app should do is
fallback on sslv3 if tls doesn't work. Forcing old and deprecated SSlv3
on all users just because some server admins think it's a good idea not
to upgrade software within decades is not the way to go.


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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 16:32:06 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:32:06 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.1 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20120627162116.0289a274@hsalkjdhsa>
References: <20120627144818.02b68953@thewildbeast>
	<20120627162116.0289a274@hsalkjdhsa>
Message-ID: <20120627153206.524cdcb4@thewildbeast>

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:21:16 +0200
Hanno Böck <hanno at hboeck.de> wrote: 

> There's no pointer to a bug or something alike, but if this does
> what it sounds like it is a terribly bad idea.
> 
> TLS is the successor of SSLv3 and offers a bunch of useful features.
> For example mulptiple certificates on one IP (SNI) and better
> cryptography.
> 
> If a server wants SSLv3 only, the thing a client app should do is
> fallback on sslv3 if tls doesn't work. Forcing old and deprecated
> SSlv3 on all users just because some server admins think it's a
> good idea not to upgrade software within decades is not the way to
> go.

Do some tests. I did.
It broke nothing that worked before, and fixed connecting for one
user whose provider had recently made changes.

with regards

Paul


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 16:31:54 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:31:54 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2682] Bug in UI refresh.
In-Reply-To: <bug-2682-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2682-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20120627143154.789B7854F2@mx.colino.net>

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--- Comment #2 from Plaque  2012-06-27 16:31:54 ---
Yes, may be. But where should dig I?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 16:33:43 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:33:43 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2682] Bug in UI refresh.
In-Reply-To: <bug-2682-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2682-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #3 from Paul  2012-06-27 16:33:43 ---
glib, cairo, gtk??

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 16:41:39 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:41:39 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2682] Bug in UI refresh.
In-Reply-To: <bug-2682-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #4 from Plaque  2012-06-27 16:41:39 ---
Generally, as I guess, this is about GTK. Here is what I've got installed at
the moment:

$ dpkg-query --showformat='${Package}\t${Version}\t${Status}\n' --show libgtk*
| grep -i ' installed'
libgtk-3-0    3.2.0-0ubuntu6    install ok installed
libgtk-3-bin    3.2.0-0ubuntu6    install ok installed
libgtk-3-common    3.2.0-0ubuntu6    install ok installed
libgtk-3-dev    3.2.0-0ubuntu6    install ok installed
libgtk-3-doc    3.2.0-0ubuntu6    install ok installed
libgtk-sharp-beans-cil    2.14.1-2build2    install ok installed
libgtk-vnc-2.0-0    0.4.3-2ubuntu2    install ok installed
libgtk2-imageview-perl    0.05-1build1    install ok installed
libgtk2-perl    2:1.223-1build2    install ok installed
libgtk2-unique-perl    0.05-1build1    install ok installed
libgtk2.0-0    2.24.6-0ubuntu5    install ok installed
libgtk2.0-bin    2.24.6-0ubuntu5    install ok installed
libgtk2.0-cil    2.12.10-2ubuntu1    install ok installed
libgtk2.0-common    2.24.6-0ubuntu5    install ok installed
libgtk2.0-dev    2.24.6-0ubuntu5    install ok installed
libgtkglext1    1.2.0-1.2fakesync1    install ok installed
libgtkimageview0    1.6.4-1    install ok installed
libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a    1:2.24.2-1    install ok installed
libgtkmm-3.0-1    3.2.0-0ubuntu1    install ok installed
libgtksourceview-3.0-0    3.2.1-0ubuntu0.1    install ok installed
libgtksourceview-3.0-common    3.2.1-0ubuntu0.1    install ok installed
libgtksourceview2.0-0    2.10.5-0ubuntu3    install ok installed
libgtksourceview2.0-common    2.10.5-0ubuntu3    install ok installed
libgtkspell-dev    2.0.16-1ubuntu2    install ok installed
libgtkspell0    2.0.16-1ubuntu2    install ok installed
libgtkspell3-0    2.0.16-1ubuntu2    install ok installed

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 16:59:26 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:59:26 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2682] Bug in UI refresh.
In-Reply-To: <bug-2682-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2682-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20120627145927.1256B85449@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2682





--- Comment #5 from Plaque  2012-06-27 16:59:26 ---
Also, Claws Mail says: GTK+ 2.24.6 / GLib 2.30.0.
Kernel 3.0, also.

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From hanno at hboeck.de  Wed Jun 27 17:10:24 2012
From: hanno at hboeck.de (Hanno =?ISO-8859-1?B?QvZjaw==?=)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:10:24 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.1 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20120627153206.524cdcb4@thewildbeast>
References: <20120627144818.02b68953@thewildbeast>
	<20120627162116.0289a274@hsalkjdhsa>
	<20120627153206.524cdcb4@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20120627171024.6c5e7757@hsalkjdhsa>

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:32:06 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> Do some tests. I did.
> It broke nothing that worked before, and fixed connecting for one
> user whose provider had recently made changes.

It will likely break SNI setups (though I don't have one to test right
now, will try that later).

But that's not the main point. The point is: It will stick to an old
standard with weaker cryptography and force that upon users.

(and just for curiosity - can you name that provider? I wonder who
makes "changes" to not support TLS any more in 2012 - and with what
intention)

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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Wed Jun 27 16:58:04 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:58:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.1 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20120627162116.0289a274@hsalkjdhsa>
References: <20120627144818.02b68953@thewildbeast>
	<20120627162116.0289a274@hsalkjdhsa>
Message-ID: <20120627155804.000075f3@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:21:16 +0200
Hanno Böck <hanno at hboeck.de> wrote:

> If a server wants SSLv3 only, the thing a client app should do is
> fallback on sslv3 if tls doesn't work.

But what if the server doesn't respond at all to TLS?

-- 

Brian Morrison


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 17:25:50 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:25:50 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.1 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20120627155804.000075f3@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20120627144818.02b68953@thewildbeast>
	<20120627162116.0289a274@hsalkjdhsa>
	<20120627155804.000075f3@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20120627162550.64aaf68b@thewildbeast>

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:58:04 +0100
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote: 

> But what if the server doesn't respond at all to TLS?

Exactly!

with regards

Paul


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but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Wed Jun 27 17:31:14 2012
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:31:14 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.1 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20120627155804.000075f3@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20120627144818.02b68953@thewildbeast>
	<20120627162116.0289a274@hsalkjdhsa>
	<20120627155804.000075f3@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20120627163114.4be06d31@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:58:04 +0100
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

Hello Brian,

>But what if the server doesn't respond at all to TLS?

Surely, that would be covered by "if TLS doesn't work"?  That is, try
TLS, wait for response, if there is none after $ReasonableAmountOfTime,
try SSL.

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From rol at witbe.net  Wed Jun 27 18:15:37 2012
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:15:37 +0200
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.1 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20120627144818.02b68953@thewildbeast>
References: <20120627144818.02b68953@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20120627181537.06ae2a6b@tux.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello,

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:48:18 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> 27th June 2012                                      Claws Mail 3.8.1
> 
> 		    CLAWS MAIL  RELEASE NOTES

Compiled, and running perfectly so far on x86_64, F15 (yes, getting a
little bit old...).

Plugins used are :
 - Address Keeper
 - gtkhml2
 - notification
 - tnef
 - vcalendar
 - Pdf

Thanks a lot to the Claws team !

Paul

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too young to have logged on yet. Here's what I worry about. I worry that 10
or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say 'Daddy, where were you
when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?'"
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 18:23:57 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:23:57 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.1 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20120627163114.4be06d31@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20120627144818.02b68953@thewildbeast>
	<20120627162116.0289a274@hsalkjdhsa>
	<20120627155804.000075f3@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20120627163114.4be06d31@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20120627172357.50adae32@thewildbeast>

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:31:14 +0100
Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote: 

> Surely, that would be covered by "if TLS doesn't work"?  That is,
> try TLS, wait for response, if there is none after
> $ReasonableAmountOfTime, try SSL.

Patches welcome!



-- 
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but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 18:45:10 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:45:10 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.1 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20120627171024.6c5e7757@hsalkjdhsa>
References: <20120627144818.02b68953@thewildbeast>
	<20120627162116.0289a274@hsalkjdhsa>
	<20120627153206.524cdcb4@thewildbeast>
	<20120627171024.6c5e7757@hsalkjdhsa>
Message-ID: <20120627174510.78c1055f@thewildbeast>

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:10:24 +0200
Hanno Böck <hanno at hboeck.de> wrote: 

> It will likely break SNI setups (though I don't have one to test
> right now, will try that later).
> 
> But that's not the main point. The point is: It will stick to an old
> standard with weaker cryptography and force that upon users.

Like I said, test first, then make comments.

with regards

Paul


-- 
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but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Wed Jun 27 18:55:22 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:55:22 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.1 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20120627163114.4be06d31@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20120627144818.02b68953@thewildbeast>
	<20120627162116.0289a274@hsalkjdhsa>
	<20120627155804.000075f3@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20120627163114.4be06d31@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20120627175522.00000b4c@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:31:14 +0100
Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:58:04 +0100
> Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hello Brian,
> 
> >But what if the server doesn't respond at all to TLS?
> 
> Surely, that would be covered by "if TLS doesn't work"?  That is, try
> TLS, wait for response, if there is none after
> $ReasonableAmountOfTime, try SSL.
> 

My comment was to cover the case where the connection goes into a
terminal sulk on the server being asked to STARTTLS.

I can make Dovecot do this if I create a broken SSL certificate chain
deliberately (or indeed accidentally, which is how I discovered it).

Once you've tried to get TLS working that's it and the connection
simply freezes until reset. Connecting again would work, but you would
then need to remember state from the previous connection and
deliberately not initiate TLS on the second attempt. 

Not a very clean way of doing it.

-- 

Brian Morrison


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Wed Jun 27 18:59:32 2012
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:59:32 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.1 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20120627172357.50adae32@thewildbeast>
References: <20120627144818.02b68953@thewildbeast>
	<20120627162116.0289a274@hsalkjdhsa>
	<20120627155804.000075f3@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20120627163114.4be06d31@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20120627172357.50adae32@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20120627175932.0390b1c8@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:23:57 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

Hello Paul,

>Patches welcome!

I'm sure they are, Paul.  Sadly, I only write pseudo code;  That's
easy.  I find real code very hard to write.

I tried to find some stuff in the CM source code, to do with the timers
for auto-polling for mail, and got totally overwhelmed by it all.

Anyhow, v3.8.1 is up and running here (Debian Testing) without issues.
As ever, thanks to all involved.

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        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 19:10:39 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 19:10:39 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2639] The MSGBUFSIZE definition collides with a
 definition of OpenBSD
In-Reply-To: <bug-2639-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2639-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20120627171040.00E9185449@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2639





--- Comment #2 from madroach+claws  2012-06-27 19:10:39 ---
options MSGBUFSIZE=integer
     This option sets the size of the kernel message buffer.  This buffer
     holds the kernel output of printf() when not (yet) read by syslogd(8).
     This is particularly useful when the system has crashed and you wish to
     lookup the kernel output from just before the crash.  Also, since the
     autoconfig output becomes more and more verbose, it sometimes happens
     that the message buffer overflows before syslogd(8) was able to read it.
     Note that not all systems are capable of obtaining a variable sized mes-
     sage buffer.  There are also some systems on which memory contents are
     not preserved across reboots.l

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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Wed Jun 27 19:33:02 2012
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:33:02 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.1 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20120627175522.00000b4c@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20120627144818.02b68953@thewildbeast>
	<20120627162116.0289a274@hsalkjdhsa>
	<20120627155804.000075f3@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20120627163114.4be06d31@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<20120627175522.00000b4c@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20120627183302.692892cc@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:55:22 +0100
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

Hello Brian,

>Once you've tried to get TLS working that's it and the connection
>simply freezes until reset. Connecting again would work, but you would
>then need to remember state from the previous connection and
>deliberately not initiate TLS on the second attempt. 

From where I'm sat, that appears to be preferable to just bugging out
with an error in the log.

Of course, not being a programmer, I have no idea whether it would be
easy to implement, or what adverse side effects it might have.

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From t261097 at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 27 19:40:52 2012
From: t261097 at hotmail.com (Per)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:40:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Users] Problem with compose headers
References: <20120413113140.6aa53860@atkinson>
	<20120413183800.5649c34a@thewildbeast>
	<20120413114152.588414eb@atkinson>
Message-ID: <loom.20120627T193845-282@post.gmane.org>

Dan Urist <durist <at> ucar.edu> writes:

> 

> 
> > On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:31:40 -0600
> > Dan Urist <durist <at> ucar.edu> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > When I attempt to compose an email with more than one header (e.g.
> > > To: and Cc:), as soon as I start typing in the second header field,
> > > my first header field is deleted and two of the second header fields
> > > appear, with the focus on the top one. 
> > > 
> > > So, for example, if I enter an address in the To: field, then add a
> > > Cc: field and start typing in that, my To: field is replaced by a
> > > Cc: field, so I now I have two Cc: fields. If I try and enter
> > > something in the second field, the first field is cleared and focus
> > > is on the first field-- it looks like any second field gets bumped
> > > to the top and then there are two of those fields. 


I am glad to have found this thread - my problem is exactly like Dan's and I 
have tried the good advice given so far. 
I start in the "to" field entering the address, continue to the "Cc" field by 
using the tab, start typing, and the "To" field is cleared and instead I get 
what I typed in the "Cc" field, but now located in the "To" field!!!
All suggestions welcome!
/Per







From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 19:49:01 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:49:01 +0100
Subject: [Users] Problem with compose headers
In-Reply-To: <loom.20120627T193845-282@post.gmane.org>
References: <20120413113140.6aa53860@atkinson>
	<20120413183800.5649c34a@thewildbeast>
	<20120413114152.588414eb@atkinson>
	<loom.20120627T193845-282@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <20120627184901.529cb251@thewildbeast>

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:40:52 +0000 (UTC)
Per <t261097 at hotmail.com> wrote: 

> All suggestions welcome!

Read my previous response - this is user error.

with regards

Paul


-- 
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but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Jun 27 20:37:18 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 20:37:18 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2682] Bug in UI refresh.
In-Reply-To: <bug-2682-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2682-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20120627183718.51D10854AD@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2682





--- Comment #6 from Plaque  2012-06-27 20:37:17 ---
At leat, please, tell me how should I tell Claws Mail to refresh folders tree
view and folder content list view, and I'm done.

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From t261097 at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 27 20:59:19 2012
From: t261097 at hotmail.com (Per)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:59:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Users] Problem with compose headers
References: <20120413113140.6aa53860@atkinson>
	<20120413183800.5649c34a@thewildbeast>
	<20120413114152.588414eb@atkinson>
	<loom.20120627T193845-282@post.gmane.org>
	<20120627184901.529cb251@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <loom.20120627T205755-833@post.gmane.org>

Paul <claws <at> thewildbeast.co.uk> writes:

> 
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:40:52 +0000 (UTC)
> Per <t261097 <at> hotmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> > All suggestions welcome!
> 
> Read my previous response - this is user error.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> 
Thanks - you are absolutely right! I just didn't notice how the "to" line moved 
up and was hidden out of sight when I started on the "Cc" line. 
/Per





From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Wed Jun 27 22:59:17 2012
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:59:17 -0400
Subject: [Users] I get occasional artifact subjects and dates on my Claws
	email
Message-ID: <20120627165917.35198549@mydesk>

Hi all,

Once in a great while (every few weeks) I get this problem. First, my
situation:

Ubuntu 11.10.
Claws-Mail 3.7.9
Mail stored on local Dovecot IMAP server on my desktop,
	Viewed with Claws-Mail
Dovecot version 2.0.13

Occasionally, meaning every couple months, when reading my IMAP with
Claws-Mail, a legitimate message has an artifact subject and date, when
viewed in the message list and only when viewed in the message list.
When you look at the email itself in Claws, it has the correct subject
and date. 

From the looks of the subjects in the message list, it looks like it's
randomly assigning a subject from a different email several months ago.
The date is from a similar time, but does not exactly correspond to the
date of a legitimate message with that subject.

In order to investigate whether it's a Claws problem or a Dovecot
problem, I looked at the same email in Thunderbird. Thunderbird did NOT
show the artifact in the message list, so for the time being I'm
assuming it's a Claws problem, or some sort of intermittent conflict
between Claws and Dovecot.

If I remember correctly, and I might not, as it was several months
since I last saw this symptom, it was "cured" by right clicking the
local IMAP account in my folder list and choosing "rebuild folder
tree". However, according to that recollection, doing that completely
deleted the legitimate message, which could be a bad thing if this ever
happens to a valuable message. After I send this email, I might try
rebuilding the folder again.

My memory is vague, but I have a vague impression that when this
symptom happens once, it starts happening more and more until I rebuild
the folder tree.

Probably none of you have experienced this problem, and I'll bet at
least a few of you think I'm hallucinating, but if anyone else has seen
something like this, please say so.

Thanks

SteveT

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From claws-mail_user at thehugheslogcabin.net  Thu Jun 28 01:49:54 2012
From: claws-mail_user at thehugheslogcabin.net (Michael Hughes)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:49:54 -0500
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.1 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20120627144818.02b68953@thewildbeast>
References: <20120627144818.02b68953@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20120627184954.3280ee13@thehugheslogcabin.net>

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:48:18 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> 27th June 2012                                      Claws Mail 3.8.1
> 
> 		    CLAWS MAIL  RELEASE NOTES
>                     http://www.claws-mail.org
> 		      
> Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast 
> email client.
>

Compiles and is running on FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE

Claws Mail version 3.8.1
runtime GTK+ 2.22.1 / GLib 2.28.8
buildtime GTK+ 2.22.1 / GLib 2.28.8
Compiled-in features:
 compface
 aspell
 gnutls
 ipv6
 iconv
 ldap
 libetpan 1.0
 libsm


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 28 06:56:32 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 06:56:32 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2681] MIME Multipart message fails to display if
 preamble is encoded
In-Reply-To: <bug-2681-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2681-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2681


Chistopher Hall <hsw at openmoko.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
          Component|UI/Message View             |SMTP
         Resolution|INVALID                     |FIXED




--- Comment #3 from Chistopher Hall  2012-06-28 06:56:31 ---
Thanks for the quick response.

I know it is invalid it is just that I receive a lot of emails from Windows
clients
which do this.  I suspect it when a eight bit character set is in use, such as
big5.
It seems that all it would take would be to ignore any content-encoding header.

A quick test shows that renaming the header to:
X-IGNORE-Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
and the message displays correctly.

So I wrote a script:
https://github.com/hxw/dotfiles/blob/master/bin/fix-mime-multipart.pl

which can be bound to an Action and added to the toolbar

Just added this in case anyone else has this problem

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 28 07:00:51 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 07:00:51 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2681] MIME Multipart message fails to display if
 preamble is encoded
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2681


Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
          Component|SMTP                        |UI/Message View
         Resolution|FIXED                       |INVALID




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From subscript at free.fr  Thu Jun 28 09:01:13 2012
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:01:13 +0200
Subject: [Users] I get occasional artifact subjects and dates on my
 Claws email
In-Reply-To: <20120627165917.35198549@mydesk>
References: <20120627165917.35198549@mydesk>
Message-ID: <20120628090113.43d0a409@monolith>

Hello Steve,


On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:59:17 -0400 Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Once in a great while (every few weeks) I get this problem. First, my
> situation:
> 
> Ubuntu 11.10.
> Claws-Mail 3.7.9
> Mail stored on local Dovecot IMAP server on my desktop,
> 	Viewed with Claws-Mail
> Dovecot version 2.0.13
> 
> Occasionally, meaning every couple months, when reading my IMAP with
> Claws-Mail, a legitimate message has an artifact subject and date, when
> viewed in the message list and only when viewed in the message list.
> When you look at the email itself in Claws, it has the correct subject
> and date. 
> 
> From the looks of the subjects in the message list, it looks like it's
> randomly assigning a subject from a different email several months ago.
> The date is from a similar time, but does not exactly correspond to the
> date of a legitimate message with that subject.
> 
> In order to investigate whether it's a Claws problem or a Dovecot
> problem, I looked at the same email in Thunderbird. Thunderbird did NOT
> show the artifact in the message list, so for the time being I'm
> assuming it's a Claws problem, or some sort of intermittent conflict
> between Claws and Dovecot.
> 
> If I remember correctly, and I might not, as it was several months
> since I last saw this symptom, it was "cured" by right clicking the
> local IMAP account in my folder list and choosing "rebuild folder
> tree". However, according to that recollection, doing that completely
> deleted the legitimate message, which could be a bad thing if this ever
> happens to a valuable message. After I send this email, I might try
> rebuilding the folder again.
> 
> My memory is vague, but I have a vague impression that when this
> symptom happens once, it starts happening more and more until I rebuild
> the folder tree.
> 
> Probably none of you have experienced this problem, and I'll bet at
> least a few of you think I'm hallucinating, but if anyone else has seen
> something like this, please say so.

If you can reproduce with some specific emails, it would be nice if you
could share those messages so that we try to reproduce locally. You
could send us the email files privately if needed.


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From lmhelp1 at orange.fr  Thu Jun 28 18:55:48 2012
From: lmhelp1 at orange.fr (Lmhelp)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:55:48 -0700
Subject: [Users] Migrating emails and emails folders from "Mozilla
 Thunderbird" to "Claws Mail"
In-Reply-To: <20120627160214.000008dd@unknown>
References: <20120627100406.00006726@unknown>
	<785386.97889.bm@smtp147.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
	<20120627160214.000008dd@unknown>
Message-ID: <20120628095548.00007288@unknown>

Thank you for your answer.

If I'm not mistaken, it looks like the mailbox plugin you are referring
to is a Debian package. Even if I'm also a Debian user, my emails and
email client reside on Windows machines ("WinXP" for "Mozilla
Thunderbird", "Win7" for "Claws Mail")...

Can you go on helping?
Thanks and best regards.
--
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:14:07 +0100
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:02:14 -0700
> Lmhelp <lmhelp1 at orange.fr> wrote: 
> 
> > Thank you in advance for helping.
> 
> Try the mailmbox plugin.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul





On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:02:14 -0700
Lmhelp <lmhelp1 at orange.fr> wrote:

> Thank you for your answer.
> 
> > Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> > I don't know but I imagine it's a non plain mbox format,
> > though I didn't know it existed or corrupted??
> 
> I don't know either...
> I'm not doing anything special: 
> 1) I am used to putting my emails into directories and subdirectories
> within "Mozilla Thunderbird". 
> 2) I want to export that structure - hierarchy of directories - along
> with the emails it contains into a format compatible with "Claws
> Mail". 3) And finally, I want to import all that into "Claws Mail". 
> And there is no reason why any file or directory should be corrupted.
> 
> ..............................
> SOMETHING WHICH WORKS PROPERLY
> ..............................
> Suppose I have a simple folder "f" containing emails in "Mozilla
> Thunderbird". 
> If I chose: "Tools" -> "ImportExportTools" -> "Export folder", I get a
> file "f" as a result. 
> Prior to this, in "Tools" -> "ImportExportTools" -> "Options" ->
> "Export directories", I checked the "Export folders as MBOX file"
> check box. 
> In "Claws Mail", if I choose: "File" -> "Import mbox file..." and
> select "f": I recover my emails properly.
> 
> ..............................
> SOMETHING WHICH DOESN'T WORK
> ..............................
> Now, suppose I have a folfer "f" containing two subfolders "f1" and
> "f2" which in turn contain emails ("m1" to "m5"):
> 
> f
>     f1
>        m1
>        m2
>     f2
>        m3
>        m4
>        m5
> 
> if I do the same thing as above and if I choose:
> a) "Export folder with subfolders (simple)", I get three files "f",
> "f1" and "f2". 
> "f" size is 0. 
> "f1" and "f2" have a non-zero size. 
> In "Claws Mail", when I choose "File" -> "Import mbox file..." and
> select "f". It fails.
> 
> b) "Export folder with subfolders (with structure)", I get
> a file "f" and a folder "f.sdb".
> Again "f" size is zero. 
> "f.sdb" contains to files "f1" and "f2" with non-zero size. 
> In "Claws Mail", if I choose, "File" -> "Import mbox file..." and
> select "f". It fails again.
> 
> > Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> > Migrating any filters you have, I believe there is a plugin to
> > migrate filters from thunderbird.
> I have no filters...
> 
> > Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> > p.s. I recall there may even be a tool specifically to migrate
> > almost everything form thunderbird to claws but I forget the
> > specifics.
> That could solve my problem?
> 
> So, I'm still wondering if I can import a hierarchy of folders,
> subfolders and emails coming from "Mozilla Thunderbird" into "Claws
> Mail" and how?
> 
> Thank you in advance for helping.
> Best regards,
> --
> Léa
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:54:11 +0100
> Kevin Chadwick <ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > > Now, in "Claws Mail":
> > > 1) I selected "an_email_address at an_isp.ext".
> > > 2) I created a "a_dir_1" folder.
> > > 3) I chose "Import mbox file..."
> > >   and for the "Mbox file" parameter, I chose "D/a_dir_1" (which
> > > was exported previously).
> > > 
> > > It ends up with an error:
> > > "Mbox import has failed"
> > > 
> > > Can you tell me what I should do to recover my data into "Claws
> > > Mail"? Thank you and best regards.
> > 
> > I don't know but I imagine it's a non plain mbox format, though I
> > didn't know it existed or corrupted??
> > 
> > If a standard exported file works you could open them in a text
> > editor and compare.
> > 
> > and/or
> > 
> > If a standard single folder export works. You may be better of
> > exporting all mails to a single mbox. Migrating any filters you
> > have, I believe there is a plugin to migrate filters from
> > thunderbird. Create folders and run the filtering on all of them. 
> > 
> > 
> > p.s. I recall there may even be a tool specifically to migrate
> > almost everything form thunderbird to claws but I forget the
> > specifics.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 28 12:28:52 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:28:52 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2682] Bug in UI refresh.
In-Reply-To: <bug-2682-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2682-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20120628102852.EE6CB85388@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2682


Plaque <Reslayer at ya.ru> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |INVALID




--- Comment #7 from Plaque  2012-06-28 12:28:52 ---
Well, looks like it's GTK3 handling GTK2 apps now, so I simply better leave
gnome-settings-daemon running and forget about this bug.

  Thanks for assistance and patience!

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From ciamarie at my180.net  Thu Jun 28 17:21:58 2012
From: ciamarie at my180.net (Cia Watson)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 08:21:58 -0700
Subject: [Users] I get occasional artifact subjects and dates on my
 Claws email
In-Reply-To: <20120627165917.35198549@mydesk>
References: <20120627165917.35198549@mydesk>
Message-ID: <20120628082158.6938710a@my180.net>

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:59:17 -0400
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:


> Occasionally, meaning every couple months, when reading my IMAP with
> Claws-Mail, a legitimate message has an artifact subject and date, when
> viewed in the message list and only when viewed in the message list.
> When you look at the email itself in Claws, it has the correct subject
> and date. 
> 
> From the looks of the subjects in the message list, it looks like it's
> randomly assigning a subject from a different email several months ago.
> The date is from a similar time, but does not exactly correspond to the
> date of a legitimate message with that subject.
> 
> In order to investigate whether it's a Claws problem or a Dovecot
> problem, I looked at the same email in Thunderbird. Thunderbird did NOT
> show the artifact in the message list, so for the time being I'm
> assuming it's a Claws problem, or some sort of intermittent conflict
> between Claws and Dovecot.

I'm using Debian wheezy (testing), and using Thunderbird (Icedove) for
retrieving gmail via IMAP. I have the same thing happen pretty often, and if
I click on another message then go back to the one that had the 'artifact'
from the wrong message, it then usually shows the correct message text. I had
it happen last night, and I actually had to go back and forth to the message
twice to see what it actually said. 

I suspect it's an IMAP issue, but I'm not an expert.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 28 23:39:24 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 23:39:24 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2683] New: Silently fails to import certain .eml files
Message-ID: <bug-2683-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2683

           Summary: Silently fails to import certain .eml files
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.8.0
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Windows XP
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: cfbwubvw at mailinator.com


(Note: This is NOT the same as #2115)

Claws can import .eml files by drag-dropping them into the message list panel.
But for some files this results in nothing happening (nothing imported, and no
error message).

One thing that causes this is when there's a '#' character in the filename.

Also, the attached file fails to get imported as well, even though there's
nothing weird in the filename.

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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 23:41:05 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2683] Silently fails to import certain .eml files
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--- Comment #1 from cfbwubvw  2012-06-28 23:41:05 ---
Created an attachment (id=1120)
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Claws fails to import this

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 28 23:43:26 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 23:43:26 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2683] Silently fails to import certain .eml files
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--- Comment #2 from cfbwubvw  2012-06-28 23:43:25 ---
Also, this is on Win7. I don't know whether the problem also exists on Linux.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Jun 28 23:53:58 2012
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 23:53:58 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2579] Installed headers redefine autotools-specific
	constants
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Holger Berndt <hb at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|RESOLVED                    |REOPENED
         Resolution|INVALID                     |




--- Comment #7 from Holger Berndt  2012-06-28 23:53:57 ---
Reopening as no argument supporting the classification as invalid was given on
devel ML.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 00:07:02 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 00:07:02 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2683] Silently fails to import certain .eml files
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--- Comment #3 from cfbwubvw  2012-06-29 00:07:01 ---
The '%' character in the filename also causes import to fail.

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From ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 01:52:41 2012
From: ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk (Kevin Chadwick)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 00:52:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] Migrating emails and emails folders from "Mozilla
 Thunderbird" to "Claws Mail"
In-Reply-To: <20120628095548.00007288@unknown>
References: <20120627100406.00006726@unknown>
	<785386.97889.bm@smtp147.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
	<20120627160214.000008dd@unknown> <20120628095548.00007288@unknown>
Message-ID: <184383.26263.bm@smtp119.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

> Thank you for your answer.
> 
> If I'm not mistaken, it looks like the mailbox plugin you are referring
> to is a Debian package. Even if I'm also a Debian user, my emails and
> email client reside on Windows machines ("WinXP" for "Mozilla
> Thunderbird", "Win7" for "Claws Mail")...
> 
> Can you go on helping?

I believe you can sort it on a linux box and transport the mail after?
Config files may have line end issues? The tool I think I remember was a
script bundle not a plugin.

Could Cygwin help?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 03:39:16 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 03:39:16 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2683] Silently fails to import certain .eml files
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--- Comment #4 from cfbwubvw  2012-06-29 03:39:15 ---
And '+'

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 08:03:20 2012
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--- Comment #8 from Paul  2012-06-29 08:03:19 ---
wasn't comment #6 the reason?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 10:01:05 2012
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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:01:05 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2640] improve quoted-printable encoding
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--- Comment #1 from madroach+claws  2012-06-29 10:01:04 ---
Created an attachment (id=1121)
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Modify vcalendar plugin to use new qp_encode instead of qp_encode_line

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 10:06:38 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:06:38 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2640] improve quoted-printable encoding
In-Reply-To: <bug-2640-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #2 from madroach+claws  2012-06-29 10:06:38 ---
I just added a patch against VCalendar which was broken by the initial diff.
I'm no user of VCalendar so I find it hart to test the changes to
vcal_manager_icalevent_dump. Maybe someone else could test this?
It builds and loads fine in the patched claws-mail-3.8.1.

The initial patch against claws-mail-3.8.0 was tested by me for several months
now. What about committing it to the official tree? It improves the qp-encoding
to adhere to RFC 2045. The code would be cleaner and better documented.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 10:29:30 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:29:30 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2640] improve quoted-printable encoding
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--- Comment #3 from Michael Rasmussen  2012-06-29 10:29:30 ---
For backwards compatibility it is a very bad idea to remove existing functions.
Why not instead leave the old function and then simply add your new function so
that the existing code base which relies on the old function will not break?

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From lmhelp1 at orange.fr  Fri Jun 29 20:11:49 2012
From: lmhelp1 at orange.fr (Lmhelp)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:11:49 -0700
Subject: [Users] Migrating emails and emails folders from "Mozilla
 Thunderbird" to "Claws Mail"
In-Reply-To: <184383.26263.bm@smtp119.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <20120627100406.00006726@unknown>
	<785386.97889.bm@smtp147.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
	<20120627160214.000008dd@unknown> <20120628095548.00007288@unknown>
	<184383.26263.bm@smtp119.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20120629111149.00003bdd@unknown>

Actually, I just tried the "Export to mbox file" functionality in
"Claws Mail" and it appears it behaves the same way as the "Mozilla
Thunderbird" addon mentionned in my previous posts:
it can't create a proper export file in case what is exported is a
folder with subfolders, subsubfolders... and emails inside of them... 

So it looks like there is no easy way for me to recover all my emails
along with the directory structure in which they are put.

The "Export to mbox file" functionality in "Claws Mail" only works in
case what is exported is a set of emails in a single directory
(with no subfolders). I could be wrong, but it's what I just noticed.

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On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 00:52:41 +0100
Kevin Chadwick <ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> > Thank you for your answer.
> > 
> > If I'm not mistaken, it looks like the mailbox plugin you are
> > referring to is a Debian package. Even if I'm also a Debian user,
> > my emails and email client reside on Windows machines ("WinXP" for
> > "Mozilla Thunderbird", "Win7" for "Claws Mail")...
> > 
> > Can you go on helping?
> 
> I believe you can sort it on a linux box and transport the mail after?
> Config files may have line end issues? The tool I think I remember
> was a script bundle not a plugin.
> 
> Could Cygwin help?


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 11:28:08 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:28:08 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2640] improve quoted-printable encoding
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madroach+claws at gmerlin.de changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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   Attachment #1100|0                           |1
        is obsolete|                            |




--- Comment #4 from madroach+claws  2012-06-29 11:28:07 ---
Created an attachment (id=1122)
 --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1122)
rewrite of the quoted-printable encoder

As suggested by Michael Rasmussen, keep the old qp_encode_line() interface for
backwards compatibility. If this does not apply cleanly, please complain :)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 11:46:26 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:46:26 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2640] improve quoted-printable encoding
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--- Comment #5 from Michael Rasmussen  2012-06-29 11:46:26 ---
The old function relies on this macro:
-#define SOFT_LBREAK_IF_REQUIRED(n)                    \
-    if (len + (n) > MAX_LINELEN ||                    \
-        (len + (n) == MAX_LINELEN && (!IS_LBREAK(inp + 1)))) {    \
-        *outp++ = '=';                        \
-        *outp++ = '\n';                        \
-        len = 0;                        \
-    }

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 12:36:49 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:36:49 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2684] New: signature not inserted when LC_ALL not set
Message-ID: <bug-2684-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2684

           Summary: signature not inserted when LC_ALL not set
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.0
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: FreeBSD
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Compose Window
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: hm at hm.net.br


I need the english interface but my signature files of certain accounts may
contain iso.8859-1 characters

the signature is only appended to the message body (auto or ctrl+g) when LC_ALL
pt_BR.ISO8859-1 is set, LC_LANG is not enough, without it only the signatures
not containing 8859-1 chars are appended

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 12:43:57 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:43:57 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2640] improve quoted-printable encoding
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--- Comment #6 from madroach+claws  2012-06-29 12:43:56 ---
I reimplemented the old interface using my new qp_encode function. This is
fairly trivial. Therefore I prefered reimplementing the old interface instead
of keeping the old implementation. That's why the macro is not needed anymore.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 13:21:26 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:21:26 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2640] improve quoted-printable encoding
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--- Comment #7 from Michael Rasmussen  2012-06-29 13:21:25 ---
Is the newest diff able to be applied directly or does is require that your
fast diff is applied prior to the new one?

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From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org  Fri Jun 29 13:26:10 2012
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) Olgiati)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:26:10 -0400
Subject: [Users] Migrating emails and emails folders from "Mozilla
	Thunderbird" to "Claws Mail"
In-Reply-To: <20120629111149.00003bdd@unknown>
References: <20120627100406.00006726@unknown>
	<184383.26263.bm@smtp119.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
	<20120629111149.00003bdd@unknown>
Message-ID: <201206290726.10291.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>

On Friday 29 Jun 2012 14:11 my mailbox was graced by a message from Lmhelp who 
wrote:
> Actually, I just tried the "Export to mbox file" functionality in
> "Claws Mail" and it appears it behaves the same way as the "Mozilla
> Thunderbird" addon mentionned in my previous posts:
> it can't create a proper export file in case what is exported is a
> folder with subfolders, subsubfolders... and emails inside of them... 
> 
> So it looks like there is no easy way for me to recover all my emails
> along with the directory structure in which they are put.
> 
> The "Export to mbox file" functionality in "Claws Mail" only works in
> case what is exported is a set of emails in a single directory
> (with no subfolders). I could be wrong, but it's what I just noticed.

And for what it is worth, the Import Mbox File works just as badly in that 
case !
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
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From ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 14:32:47 2012
From: ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk (Kevin Chadwick)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:32:47 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bulk] Re: Migrating emails and emails folders from
 "Mozilla Thunderbird" to "Claws Mail"
In-Reply-To: <201206290726.10291.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
References: <20120627100406.00006726@unknown>
	<184383.26263.bm@smtp119.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
	<20120629111149.00003bdd@unknown>
	<201206290726.10291.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
Message-ID: <496391.33063.bm@smtp107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

> And for what it is worth, the Import Mbox File works just as badly in that 
> case !
>  
> Cheers,
>  

Have you tried this.

http://www.claws-mail.org/tools/claws-mail-tbird2claws.tar.gz

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From berndth at gmx.de  Fri Jun 29 14:41:07 2012
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:41:07 +0200
Subject: [Users] Migrating emails and emails folders from "Mozilla
 Thunderbird" to "Claws Mail"
In-Reply-To: <201206290726.10291.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
References: <20120627100406.00006726@unknown>
	<184383.26263.bm@smtp119.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
	<20120629111149.00003bdd@unknown>
	<201206290726.10291.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
Message-ID: <20120629144107.0f4b789a@wodan>

On Fr, 29.06.2012 07:26, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote:

>> it can't create a proper export file in case what is exported is a
>> folder with subfolders, subsubfolders... and emails inside of them... 
>> 
>> So it looks like there is no easy way for me to recover all my emails
>> along with the directory structure in which they are put.
>> 
>> The "Export to mbox file" functionality in "Claws Mail" only works in
>> case what is exported is a set of emails in a single directory
>> (with no subfolders). I could be wrong, but it's what I just noticed.
>
>And for what it is worth, the Import Mbox File works just as badly in that 
>case !

It's not that the import implementation works badly, or that the export
implementation is limited. An mbox file is just a sequence of messages.
You can think of it as a single folder.

Mbox is not a container format that can contain arbitrarily nested
folder/subfolder structures.

Holger


From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org  Fri Jun 29 15:38:07 2012
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) Olgiati)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:38:07 -0400
Subject: [Users] Migrating emails and emails folders from "Mozilla
	Thunderbird" to "Claws Mail"
In-Reply-To: <20120629144107.0f4b789a@wodan>
References: <20120627100406.00006726@unknown>
	<201206290726.10291.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
	<20120629144107.0f4b789a@wodan>
Message-ID: <201206290938.07450.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>

On Friday 29 Jun 2012 08:41 my mailbox was graced by a message from Holger 
Berndt who wrote:
> >> The "Export to mbox file" functionality in "Claws Mail" only works in
> >> case what is exported is a set of emails in a single directory
> >> (with no subfolders). I could be wrong, but it's what I just noticed.
> >
> >And for what it is worth, the Import Mbox File works just as badly in
> >that  case !
> 
> It's not that the import implementation works badly, or that the export
> implementation is limited. An mbox file is just a sequence of messages.
> You can think of it as a single folder.
> 
> Mbox is not a container format that can contain arbitrarily nested
> folder/subfolder structures.

With due respect, Your Worship, I have in KMail mbox folders that hold both 
mails and sub-folders.
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
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From ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 18:58:04 2012
From: ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk (Kevin Chadwick)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:58:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bulk] Re: Migrating emails and emails folders from
 "Mozilla Thunderbird" to "Claws Mail"
In-Reply-To: <201206290938.07450.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
References: <20120627100406.00006726@unknown>
	<201206290726.10291.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
	<20120629144107.0f4b789a@wodan>
	<201206290938.07450.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
Message-ID: <580960.5231.bm@smtp139.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

> With due respect, Your Worship, I have in KMail mbox folders that hold both 
> mails and sub-folders.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Ron.

Are you sure? Please create some empty folders in Kmail export them as
an mbox and attach the mbox file to a mail to me. It maybe some funky
kmail mail file format but I'm pretty sure it's not an mbox file. Open
any mbox file in a text editor and see for yourself. If you export an
individual email and open that in a text editor you will see that the
folders are usually simply tied to the mbox filename within client
config files.

Claws uses maildir like the renowned reliable and secure qmail server
which is one file per email and is far more reliable and useful than
mbox which is basically one file after another in a single file. A
corrupt email can render the whole single batch (what you see as a
folder) unreadable to a mail client but it will still be fixable and
viewable via a text editor.

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From nicolas.claws at iselin.ch  Fri Jun 29 19:32:26 2012
From: nicolas.claws at iselin.ch (Nicolas Iselin)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 19:32:26 +0200
Subject: [Users] [Bulk] Re: Migrating emails and emails folders from
 "Mozilla Thunderbird" to "Claws Mail"
In-Reply-To: <580960.5231.bm@smtp139.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <20120627100406.00006726@unknown>
	<201206290726.10291.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
	<20120629144107.0f4b789a@wodan>
	<201206290938.07450.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
	<580960.5231.bm@smtp139.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20120629193226.41cd8965@omega>

Am Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:58:04 +0100
schrieb Kevin Chadwick <ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk>:

> > With due respect, Your Worship, I have in KMail mbox folders that
> > hold both mails and sub-folders.
> >  
> > Cheers,
> >  
> > Ron.
> 
> Are you sure? Please create some empty folders in Kmail export them as
> an mbox and attach the mbox file to a mail to me. 

I migrated from KMail to Claws a few months ago. And I can confirm
that KMail has quite an own way of doing things, especially if you were
using KMail for several years and let KMail "upgrade" your mails.

As far as I remember, Kmail can use mbox format for a certain folder but
maintains IN PARALLEL a "hidden" directory structure that allows to
nest mbox files within each others. Nasty in the filesystem, but
transparent to the end user.

It will possibly not help if Ron creates now an mbox file, it is likely
that Kmail does it different right now compared to what happened when
it created the Mbox file a few releases ago...

If anyone is interested, I can share what I did for KMail to Claws
Migration.

Nicolas


From berndth at gmx.de  Fri Jun 29 19:46:33 2012
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 19:46:33 +0200
Subject: [Users] Migrating emails and emails folders from "Mozilla
 Thunderbird" to "Claws Mail"
In-Reply-To: <201206290938.07450.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
References: <20120627100406.00006726@unknown>
	<201206290726.10291.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
	<20120629144107.0f4b789a@wodan>
	<201206290938.07450.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
Message-ID: <20120629194633.58a4a4c8@wodan>

On Fr, 29.06.2012 09:38, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote:

>> It's not that the import implementation works badly, or that the export
>> implementation is limited. An mbox file is just a sequence of messages.
>> You can think of it as a single folder.
>> 
>> Mbox is not a container format that can contain arbitrarily nested
>> folder/subfolder structures.
>
>With due respect, Your Worship

That kind of silliness is uncalled for, and I doubt it'll get you far.

>I have in KMail mbox folders that hold both mails and sub-folders

While that's possible (since mbox is so badly specified that every
implementation tends to use its own flavour), I doubt it.

Maybe you're mixing it up with some mbox-based storage system (like
Mozilla's sbd folders). Or maybe you're right, and KMail has a funky
way of doing things - but it'd need an example to convince me.

Holger


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 19:52:11 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:52:11 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bulk] Re: Migrating emails and emails folders from
 "Mozilla Thunderbird" to "Claws Mail"
In-Reply-To: <580960.5231.bm@smtp139.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <20120627100406.00006726@unknown>
	<201206290726.10291.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
	<20120629144107.0f4b789a@wodan>
	<201206290938.07450.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
	<580960.5231.bm@smtp139.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20120629185211.6ff2ec4d@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:58:04 +0100
Kevin Chadwick <ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk> wrote: 

> Claws uses maildir 

I like what you wrote, but Claws uses MH.

with regards

Paul


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but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 21:11:29 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 21:11:29 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2685] New: Plugins l10n
Message-ID: <bug-2685-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2685

           Summary: Plugins l10n
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.1
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: raphgro at web.de


Are there localization files available for the plugins? Especially notification
plugin with its systray icon menu and so on � I would like to see all in
german.

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From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org  Fri Jun 29 21:50:29 2012
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) Olgiati)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:50:29 -0400
Subject: [Users] Migrating emails and emails folders from "Mozilla
	Thunderbird" to "Claws Mail"
In-Reply-To: <20120629194633.58a4a4c8@wodan>
References: <20120627100406.00006726@unknown>
	<201206290938.07450.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
	<20120629194633.58a4a4c8@wodan>
Message-ID: <201206291550.29605.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>

On Friday 29 Jun 2012 13:46 my mailbox was graced by a message from Holger 
Berndt who wrote:

> >With due respect, Your Worship
 
> That kind of silliness is uncalled for, and I doubt it'll get you far.

How far I do not know, but it got me a reply from you !
 
> >I have in KMail mbox folders that hold both mails and sub-folders
 
> While that's possible (since mbox is so badly specified that every
> implementation tends to use its own flavour), I doubt it.

Doubt all you want, I have sent the example off-list to Keith Chadwick as per 
his request.
 
> Maybe you're mixing it up with some mbox-based storage system (like
> Mozilla's sbd folders). Or maybe you're right, and KMail has a funky
> way of doing things - but it'd need an example to convince me.

If you want the same example off-list, let me know.
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Jun 29 22:21:33 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 22:21:33 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2579] Installed headers redefine autotools-specific
	constants
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--- Comment #9 from Holger Berndt  2012-06-29 22:21:32 ---
No, in comment #6 it was offered to answer questions on -devel, but the related
mail was unfortunately ignored.

If this bug is invalid, I'd also be interested to know how to use autotools
with AC_CONFIG_HEADERS / AM_CONFIG_HEADER from a plugin. The mentioned rule of
"not redefining macros" is everything but simple (impossible?) to follow, as
the names are not chosen by the developer, but by autotools machinery, and are
thus doomed to collide.

In fact, as far as I can see, all external plugins that use this machinery
(notification, gdata, attachwarner, pdf_viewer, geolocation, perl, fancy,
python) have this problem. They just by coincidence redefine given #defines
with empty strings, about which gcc currently doesn't complain about (even
though it's likely invalid, or at the very least unclean).

Furthermore, the header might be incorrect, because Claws Mail might have been
compiled by the distributor, and a plugin might be compiled by a user, so Claws
Mail's installed config.h might not fit the actual machine.

The way I understand autotools is that it's supposed to be included in _all_
source files, before any other header, but it's not supposed to be included
from any public header, and it's also not supposed to be installed. A more
elaborate reasoning, mostly repeating what I wrote above, can be found in [1].

Now, I usually get autotools wrong, so if that's all wrong and the bug is
indeed invalid, please tell me (and Sal, and Mones, and Michal) how to fix our
code.

[1] http://inaugust.com/post/68

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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Sat Jun 30 08:22:49 2012
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 02:22:49 -0400
Subject: [Users] [Bulk] Re: Migrating emails and emails folders from
 "Mozilla Thunderbird" to "Claws Mail"
In-Reply-To: <20120629193226.41cd8965@omega>
References: <20120627100406.00006726@unknown>
	<201206290726.10291.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
	<20120629144107.0f4b789a@wodan>
	<201206290938.07450.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
	<580960.5231.bm@smtp139.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
	<20120629193226.41cd8965@omega>
Message-ID: <20120630022249.0feefb84@mydesk>

On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 19:32:26 +0200, Nicolas Iselin said:
> Am Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:58:04 +0100
> schrieb Kevin Chadwick <ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk>:
> 
> > > With due respect, Your Worship, I have in KMail mbox folders that
> > > hold both mails and sub-folders.
> > >  
> > > Cheers,
> > >  
> > > Ron.
> > 
> > Are you sure? Please create some empty folders in Kmail export them
> > as an mbox and attach the mbox file to a mail to me. 
> 
> I migrated from KMail to Claws a few months ago. And I can confirm
> that KMail has quite an own way of doing things, especially if you
> were using KMail for several years and let KMail "upgrade" your mails.
> 
> As far as I remember, Kmail can use mbox format for a certain folder
> but maintains IN PARALLEL a "hidden" directory structure that allows
> to nest mbox files within each others. Nasty in the filesystem, but
> transparent to the end user.
> 
> It will possibly not help if Ron creates now an mbox file, it is
> likely that Kmail does it different right now compared to what
> happened when it created the Mbox file a few releases ago...
> 
> If anyone is interested, I can share what I did for KMail to Claws
> Migration.

If I had to do migration again, I'd do it the same way as before: I'd
copy from the source client to an IMAP account, and then from the IMAP
to Claws. Or, in my case, I didn't do the last step -- I just kept all
my email on my local IMAP server, and that IMAP server's Maildir
structure is what I back up.

I tried for a few weeks to export and import from files, and man, it
was very bad news. Only after I committed to the IMAP middleman did
things go well.

The whole process is described here:

http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/201202/201202.htm

SteveT

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jun 30 09:14:15 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:14:15 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2685] Plugins l10n
In-Reply-To: <bug-2685-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2685-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #1 from Paul  2012-06-30 09:14:14 ---
Yes, there are. At least, for those plugins which have the infrastructure for
it. But not all of these are translated into German yet.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jun 30 09:17:52 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:17:52 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2579] Installed headers redefine autotools-specific
	constants
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--- Comment #10 from Paul  2012-06-30 09:17:51 ---
Holger, just because it didn't (yet?) receive the number of replies which goes
above your 'ignored' threshold does not mean that it was ignored - you cannot
tell how many read it and have since been considering it.

I think your comment #9 could be exactly the sort of thing that is referred to
in paragraph 3 of comment #6.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jun 30 09:32:31 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:32:31 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2685] Plugins l10n
In-Reply-To: <bug-2685-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #2 from Raphael Groner  2012-06-30 09:32:31 ---
> But not all of these are translated into German yet.

How can I help? As said, I would like to see the notification plugin in german.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jun 30 09:54:41 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:54:41 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2579] Installed headers redefine autotools-specific
	constants
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--- Comment #11 from Holger Berndt  2012-06-30 09:54:40 ---
> Holger, just because it didn't (yet?) receive the number of replies
> which goes above your 'ignored' threshold does not mean that it
> was ignored

The definition of my "ignored threshold" is pretty simple: It's 0. In words:
Zero. Not counting my very own "I think you're right" reply.

Paul, as you refer once more to discussion on -devel, feel free to close this
bug again as invalid, but please, explain the reasoning also here on this very
tracker, so that developers that stumble upon this problem learn how to fix
their stuff.

Alternatively, if Mones fixes his very own plugin which has this very bug as
well (which I guess he knows how to do, as of the often-cited comment #6), I'll
add an explanation to this tracker, so you don't have to bother any more.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jun 30 11:04:37 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 11:04:37 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2579] Installed headers redefine autotools-specific
	constants
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--- Comment #12 from users  2012-06-30 11:04:36 ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest CVS and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://www.claws-mail.org/tracker/

2012-06-30 [paul]    3.8.1cvs1

    * Makefile.am
        fix bug 2579, 'Installed headers redefine autotools-specific constants'

2012-06-27 [paul]    3.8.1
    * NEWS
    * README
    * RELEASE_NOTES    
        3.8.1 unleashed!


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jun 30 11:20:19 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 11:20:19 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2685] Plugins l10n
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Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |LATER




--- Comment #3 from Paul  2012-06-30 11:20:18 ---
Please see this page: http://www.claws-mail.org/i18n.php
join the translators' ml, read the Translator's Information page, and contact
the current German translator.
Thanks!

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Jun 30 14:48:18 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 14:48:18 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2686] New: Show newsgroups in the messageview header
Message-ID: <bug-2686-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2686

           Summary: Show newsgroups in the messageview header
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: CVS
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message View
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: gusnan at gusnan.se


For newsgroups, I have noticed that headerview doesn't show Newsgroup name - 

While ordinary email shows fields for "From", "To" and "Subject" - Newsgroups
only show "From" and "Subject" - It would be nice if also "Newsgroups" were
shown on a line.

However, it was harder than I thought - Searching through the source, I found
my way to src/headerview.c:222 , which suggests that msginfo->newsgroups are
NULL even when messages from newsgroups are viewed.

While "Newsgroups:" are shown in the message headers, I still believe that it
would be nice to have the information in the headerview too.

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From dan_arico at aricosystems.com  Sat Jun 30 17:02:06 2012
From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico)
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 11:02:06 -0400
Subject: [Users] [Bulk] Re: Migrating emails and emails folders from
 "Mozilla Thunderbird" to "Claws Mail"
In-Reply-To: <20120630022249.0feefb84@mydesk>
References: <20120627100406.00006726@unknown>
	<201206290726.10291.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
	<20120629144107.0f4b789a@wodan>
	<201206290938.07450.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
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	<20120629193226.41cd8965@omega> <20120630022249.0feefb84@mydesk>
Message-ID: <20120630110206.4361a0df.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>


> If I had to do migration again, I'd do it the same way as before: I'd
> copy from the source client to an IMAP account, and then from the IMAP
> to Claws. Or, in my case, I didn't do the last step -- I just kept all
> my email on my local IMAP server, and that IMAP server's Maildir
> structure is what I back up.
> 
> I tried for a few weeks to export and import from files, and man, it
> was very bad news. Only after I committed to the IMAP middleman did
> things go well.
> 
> The whole process is described here:
> 
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/201202/201202.htm

I found a python script called maildir2mbox.py that solved my problem
when I converted from Kmail to Claws. It converted thousands of emails
without a hiccup.

Dan Arico

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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Sat Jun 30 18:43:49 2012
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:43:49 -0400
Subject: [Users] [Bulk] Re: Migrating emails and emails folders from
 "Mozilla Thunderbird" to "Claws Mail"
In-Reply-To: <20120630110206.4361a0df.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
References: <20120627100406.00006726@unknown>
	<201206290726.10291.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
	<20120629144107.0f4b789a@wodan>
	<201206290938.07450.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
	<580960.5231.bm@smtp139.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
	<20120629193226.41cd8965@omega> <20120630022249.0feefb84@mydesk>
	<20120630110206.4361a0df.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
Message-ID: <20120630124349.615dc89f@mydesk>

On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 11:02:06 -0400, Dan Arico said:
> 
> > If I had to do migration again, I'd do it the same way as before:
> > I'd copy from the source client to an IMAP account, and then from
> > the IMAP to Claws. Or, in my case, I didn't do the last step -- I
> > just kept all my email on my local IMAP server, and that IMAP
> > server's Maildir structure is what I back up.
> > 
> > I tried for a few weeks to export and import from files, and man, it
> > was very bad news. Only after I committed to the IMAP middleman did
> > things go well.
> > 
> > The whole process is described here:
> > 
> > http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/201202/201202.htm
> 
> I found a python script called maildir2mbox.py that solved my problem
> when I converted from Kmail to Claws. It converted thousands of emails
> without a hiccup.
> 
> Dan Arico

In Kmail I had a mixture of probably 50 Mboxes and 50 Maildirs. Ugh!

In retrospect I probably could have done what you did, had I known
which email client I would end up using. My first choice was actually
MH (http://rand-mh.sourceforge.net/book/index.html#toc), which is why I
wanted mh folders instead of maildir or mbox, and that's what
originally led me to Sylpheed and Claws.

Try as I might, I could find no scripts, that actually worked, to
convert maildir and mbox to mh. Meanwhile, I couldn't upgrade my aging
Ubuntu until I escaped from Kmail, because Ubuntu 11.10 used (ugh)
Kmail2.

At a meeting after the meeting for GoLUG (http://www.golug.org),
several friends took me aside and gave me an intervention. They
explained that my search for scripts that provably worked was the
highway to heartache, and that the whole thing could be accomplished by
using IMAP as a middleman. They further explained that by actually
keeping the emails on a local IMAP, I could avoid this heartache every
time I changed email clients, because, in the words of the Oriental
Philosopher, "This too will change."

So I did as they said, and it worked out beautifully, except for the
fact that, as far as I know, you can't use MH scripts on IMAP stored
email. But big deal, I'd long before given up the hope of using MH
scripts as my email client.

Kmail has caused more people more grief than almost any other free
software I can think of. It's soooooo good to have Kmail in my rear
view mirror.

SteveT

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