From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 01:15:18 2012
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 19:15:18 -0500
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121130234324.5d2698e7@wodan>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
	<20121128203335.62FDE853E3@mx.colino.net>
	<20121128161734.000023b5@unknown> <20121128232229.5dadf5e7@sumiciu>
	<20121129010838.373f5ee8@wodan> <20121128194739.00004e44@unknown>
	<20121129083359.GC29348@trasgu> <20121129110229.0000000b@unknown>
	<20121129165245.GD29348@trasgu> <20121129125936.0000533f@unknown>
	<20121129205127.28ca6988@wodan> <20121129160126.00002694@unknown>
	<20121130010022.31fbc26d@wodan> <20121129201759.0000240f@unknown>
	<20121130234324.5d2698e7@wodan>
Message-ID: <20121130191518.000058b3@unknown>

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 23:43:24 +0100
Holger Berndt <berndth at gmx.de> wrote:

> In fact, when I ssh into my machine, it is set. Not that it would
> matter. And I don't really care about a good place to put unix
> domain sockets on windows right now, thank you very much.

It isn't set on any of my Debian servers.


> I doubt that you have the authority (or insight) to make this kind of
> design decisions for Claws Mail. That's up to the maintainers.

Log into a computer with GNU Emacs installed. Look for the files
pop3.el or pop3.el.gz. Look at the author line. That's me. I was
writing mail handling software before either Claws or Sylpheed existed.
I'd say that gives me at least some insight into how to do it right.

-- 
Rich P.


From iwkse at claws-mail.org  Sat Dec  1 02:04:42 2012
From: iwkse at claws-mail.org (Salvatore De Paolis)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 02:04:42 +0100
Subject: [Users] Fw: Tuning the fancy plug
Message-ID: <20121201020442.69993ebc@net24.it>

Begin forwarded message:

Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:53:15 +0100
From: Jonas Petersson <catellie at gmail.com>
To: Salvatore De Paolis <iwkse at claws-mail.org>
Subject: Re: Tuning the fancy plug


Hi again Salvatore,

I'm sorry, but I'm getting doubts about my switch. Here is why:

A lot of the time it works pretty well - in particular it starts up a
LOT quicker than Thunderbird, which was my main gripe.
However, switching between (big) folders is often painfully slow - in
my case I have several GMail accounts with a LOT of mails (basically
everything I've sent since 2005 or so). I've tried letting Claws
download all my old mails in the hope that it would speed things up,
but the network log window clearly shows that there is a LOT of
communication going on when I switch - and then quickly switching back
is just as bad. Am I doing something stupid or is this just a bad use
case?

To make things worse, I just saw that it messed up the local copy of
my inbox for the THIRD time now - happily showing that my huge folder
just contains 24 messages, then newest being from January 2006! A full
re-downioad takes several hours... :-/ BTW: I'm now on pure 3.8.1 that
comes with Ubuntu 12.10 - I backed down from my own hack once when it
failed the first time in order to eliminate that my code is the cause
(it seemed unlikely, but still).

Perhaps I've just got too much mail (~8GB) to handle this way?
Google's web interface isn't perfect, but it never fails... In my mind
it seemed to work pretty well up until about 6 months ago, but it
might be the size of my mailbox that passed the magic border rather
then any of the mail clients that are broken really. A mix of Claws'
upstart and Thunderbird's folder caching would be the best.

                    Best / Jonas


From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Sat Dec  1 03:19:39 2012
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:19:39 -0800
Subject: [Users] Gmail quote problem
Message-ID: <20121130181939.1dec0915@from-theboss.911networks.com>

Hi,

I received the following email from GMAIL:

----------START--------------------
--f46d04083b510d781a04cfc107f6
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola)
< cartoleba at gmail.com> wrote:

> GIMP?
>

I mostly use Lightroom. I can do it in Lightroom, but I first have to
set the dimensions, amke sure that the spacing is exact and do not
overlap... I have access to Photoshop CS5. Could be done, but (I'm
not an expert in PS) and it's not as quick and simple as: "here are
the photos, stitch them" and with Hugin I can make a whole batch of
it.

----------END---------------------

but in text/plain it shows as:

----------START--------------------
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola) < 
 [...]  

 [...]  

I mostly use Lightroom. I can do it in Lightroom, but I first have to
set the dimensions, amke sure that the spacing is exact and do not
overlap... I have access to Photoshop CS5. Could be done, but (I'm
not an expert in PS) and it's not as quick and simple as: "here are
the photos, stitch them" and with Hugin I can make a whole batch of
it.

----------END---------------------

Where did the word "GIMP" go? With the HTML the word "GIMP" does show
up.

CM: 3.9.0 xUbuntu 12.04, Fancy HTML 0.9.17

Is this a bug? Is this an improper configuration on my part?

-- 
Thank you
http://www.911networks.com
When the network has to work


From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Sat Dec  1 03:24:03 2012
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:24:03 -0800
Subject: [Users] Gmail quote problem
Message-ID: <20121130182403.55aecb11@from-theboss.911networks.com>

Oops, improper formatting:

Hi,

I received the following email from GMAIL:

----------START--------------------
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola)
< cartoleba at gmail.com> wrote:

> GIMP?
>

I mostly use Lightroom. I can do it in Lightroom, but I first have to
set the dimensions, amke sure that the spacing is exact and do not
overlap... I have access to Photoshop CS5. Could be done, but (I'm
not an expert in PS) and it's not as quick and simple as: "here are
the photos, stitch them" and with Hugin I can make a whole batch of
it.

----------END---------------------

but in text/plain it shows as:

----------START--------------------
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola)
< [...]  

 [...]  

I mostly use Lightroom. I can do it in Lightroom, but I first have to
set the dimensions, amke sure that the spacing is exact and do not
overlap... I have access to Photoshop CS5. Could be done, but (I'm
not an expert in PS) and it's not as quick and simple as: "here are
the photos, stitch them" and with Hugin I can make a whole batch of
it.

----------END---------------------

Where did the word "GIMP" go? With the HTML the word "GIMP" does show
up.

CM: 3.9.0 xUbuntu 12.04, Fancy HTML 0.9.17

Is this a bug? Is this an improper configuration on my part?

-- 
Thank you
http://www.911networks.com
When the network has to work


From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Sat Dec  1 03:28:38 2012
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:28:38 -0800
Subject: [Users] Gmail quote problem
In-Reply-To: <20121130182403.55aecb11@from-theboss.911networks.com>
References: <20121130182403.55aecb11@from-theboss.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20121130182838.3b69b8b2@from-theboss.911networks.com>

sorry this is try #3!

It won't format properly so you can see my problem. So can you please
look at the source (Ctrl-U).

thank you

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:24:03 -0800
sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I received the following email from GMAIL:
>
>----------START--------------------
>On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola)
>< cartoleba at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> GIMP?
>>
>
>I mostly use Lightroom. I can do it in Lightroom, but I first have to
>set the dimensions, amke sure that the spacing is exact and do not
>overlap... I have access to Photoshop CS5. Could be done, but (I'm
>not an expert in PS) and it's not as quick and simple as: "here are
>the photos, stitch them" and with Hugin I can make a whole batch of
>it.
>
>----------END---------------------
>
>but in text/plain it shows as:
>
>----------START--------------------
>On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola)
>< [...]  
>
> [...]  
>
>I mostly use Lightroom. I can do it in Lightroom, but I first have to
>set the dimensions, amke sure that the spacing is exact and do not
>overlap... I have access to Photoshop CS5. Could be done, but (I'm
>not an expert in PS) and it's not as quick and simple as: "here are
>the photos, stitch them" and with Hugin I can make a whole batch of
>it.
>
>----------END---------------------
>
>Where did the word "GIMP" go? With the HTML the word "GIMP" does show
>up.
>
>CM: 3.9.0 xUbuntu 12.04, Fancy HTML 0.9.17
>
>Is this a bug? Is this an improper configuration on my part?
>
>-- 
>Thank you
>http://www.911networks.com
>When the network has to work
>_______________________________________________
>Users mailing list
>Users at lists.claws-mail.org
>http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
>


-- 
Thanks
http://www.911networks.com
When the network has to work


From colin at colino.net  Sat Dec  1 13:21:43 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 13:21:43 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121130010022.31fbc26d@wodan>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
	<20121128203335.62FDE853E3@mx.colino.net>
	<20121128161734.000023b5@unknown> <20121128232229.5dadf5e7@sumiciu>
	<20121129010838.373f5ee8@wodan> <20121128194739.00004e44@unknown>
	<20121129083359.GC29348@trasgu> <20121129110229.0000000b@unknown>
	<20121129165245.GD29348@trasgu> <20121129125936.0000533f@unknown>
	<20121129205127.28ca6988@wodan> <20121129160126.00002694@unknown>
	<20121130010022.31fbc26d@wodan>
Message-ID: <20121201132143.2f242748@mike>

On 30 November 2012 at 01h00, Holger Berndt wrote:

Hi, 

> But anyways, it's a matter of preference what's more valuable: Safety
> against different uids trying to mess with the same config dir at the
> same time, or DoS prevention. Personally, I lean towards the second.

Different UIDs should not be messing with the same config dir anyway.

The UID in the socket name is there just to allow different users run
different instances of Claws Mail at the same time, not to prevent DoS
or anything.

Also, I feel we're getting a little bit carried away there with
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR and everything. Supporting XDG would be great, but we
don't, right now. 

Maybe we can start caring about XDG_RUNTIME_DIR when we'll have
migrated our config dir to XDG_CONDIR_DIR and imap caches to
XDG_CACHE_DIR.

In the meantime I couldn't care less if the socket name is rendered
unique using UID, config-dir-name hash, md5sum of the user's full name
appended to the computer domain name or whatever.

Ratinox's patch is good as it is, there's no need to add the UID

> don't remove uid from socket name, just add the MD5, otherwise two
>different users could clash using the same dir.

That's misguided, we sure as hell don't want two users running two
instances of Claws Mail, writing UIDL files, preferences and IMAP cache
files in the same configuration directory.

Having the unicity on config dirs only is actually better than on UID +
config dir. Of course the hash has to be on the absolute path.

Or am I missing something there?
-- 
Colin
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From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 14:38:48 2012
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 08:38:48 -0500
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121201132143.2f242748@mike>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
	<20121128203335.62FDE853E3@mx.colino.net>
	<20121128161734.000023b5@unknown> <20121128232229.5dadf5e7@sumiciu>
	<20121129010838.373f5ee8@wodan> <20121128194739.00004e44@unknown>
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	<20121129165245.GD29348@trasgu> <20121129125936.0000533f@unknown>
	<20121129205127.28ca6988@wodan> <20121129160126.00002694@unknown>
	<20121130010022.31fbc26d@wodan> <20121201132143.2f242748@mike>
Message-ID: <20121201083848.00003d28@unknown>

On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 13:21:43 +0100
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

> Having the unicity on config dirs only is actually better than on UID
> + config dir. Of course the hash has to be on the absolute path.
> 
> Or am I missing something there?

We're in agreement over the shared configuration idea being a bad one.
We're also in agreement that the hash should be on the canonicalized
configuration directory path. I would much prefer one of the core
developers implement the realpath(3) function or whatever function you
prefer. I'm not comfortable inserting realpath(3) into your code when
the documentation for it describes it as "broken by design".

-- 
Rich P.


From colin at colino.net  Sat Dec  1 17:54:27 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 17:54:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121201083848.00003d28@unknown>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
	<20121128203335.62FDE853E3@mx.colino.net>
	<20121128161734.000023b5@unknown> <20121128232229.5dadf5e7@sumiciu>
	<20121129010838.373f5ee8@wodan> <20121128194739.00004e44@unknown>
	<20121129083359.GC29348@trasgu> <20121129110229.0000000b@unknown>
	<20121129165245.GD29348@trasgu> <20121129125936.0000533f@unknown>
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	<20121130010022.31fbc26d@wodan> <20121201132143.2f242748@mike>
	<20121201083848.00003d28@unknown>
Message-ID: <20121201175427.3c0a2272@mike>

On 01 December 2012 at 08h38, Rich Pieri wrote:

Hi, 

> We're in agreement over the shared configuration idea being a bad one.
> We're also in agreement that the hash should be on the canonicalized
> configuration directory path. I would much prefer one of the core
> developers implement the realpath(3) function or whatever function you
> prefer. I'm not comfortable inserting realpath(3) into your code when
> the documentation for it describes it as "broken by design".

And not portable, too. Too bad glib doesn't provide a wrapper... I'll
do it some time soon.

-- 
Colin
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From mir at miras.org  Sat Dec  1 18:24:32 2012
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 18:24:32 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121201175427.3c0a2272@mike>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
	<20121128203335.62FDE853E3@mx.colino.net>
	<20121128161734.000023b5@unknown> <20121128232229.5dadf5e7@sumiciu>
	<20121129010838.373f5ee8@wodan> <20121128194739.00004e44@unknown>
	<20121129083359.GC29348@trasgu> <20121129110229.0000000b@unknown>
	<20121129165245.GD29348@trasgu> <20121129125936.0000533f@unknown>
	<20121129205127.28ca6988@wodan> <20121129160126.00002694@unknown>
	<20121130010022.31fbc26d@wodan> <20121201132143.2f242748@mike>
	<20121201083848.00003d28@unknown> <20121201175427.3c0a2272@mike>
Message-ID: <20121201182432.4c3b8cac@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 17:54:27 +0100
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

> 
> And not portable, too. Too bad glib doesn't provide a wrapper... I'll
> do it some time soon.
> 
What precisely is wrong with the function realpath from glibc?

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
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From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 18:42:01 2012
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 12:42:01 -0500
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121201182432.4c3b8cac@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
	<20121128203335.62FDE853E3@mx.colino.net>
	<20121128161734.000023b5@unknown> <20121128232229.5dadf5e7@sumiciu>
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Message-ID: <20121201124201.000010eb@unknown>

On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 18:24:32 +0100
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> What precisely is wrong with the function realpath from glibc?

http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/online/pages/man3/realpath.3.html
and scroll down to the BUGS section.

-- 
Rich P.


From mir at miras.org  Sat Dec  1 18:58:45 2012
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 18:58:45 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121201124201.000010eb@unknown>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
	<20121128203335.62FDE853E3@mx.colino.net>
	<20121128161734.000023b5@unknown> <20121128232229.5dadf5e7@sumiciu>
	<20121129010838.373f5ee8@wodan> <20121128194739.00004e44@unknown>
	<20121129083359.GC29348@trasgu> <20121129110229.0000000b@unknown>
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	<20121129205127.28ca6988@wodan> <20121129160126.00002694@unknown>
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	<20121201083848.00003d28@unknown> <20121201175427.3c0a2272@mike>
	<20121201182432.4c3b8cac@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20121201124201.000010eb@unknown>
Message-ID: <20121201185845.49f8140c@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 12:42:01 -0500
Rich Pieri <richard.pieri at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 18:24:32 +0100
> Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:
> 
> > What precisely is wrong with the function realpath from glibc?
> 
> http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/online/pages/man3/realpath.3.html
> and scroll down to the BUGS section.
> 
I have seen that, but this is only the fact for POSIX.1-2001. In
POSIX.1-2008 the bug have been solved. So the versions of glibc we are
using all has this bug fixed.

"The GNU C Library is primarily designed to be a portable and high
performance C library. It follows all relevant standards including ISO
C11 and POSIX.1-2008. It is also internationalized and has one of the
most complete internationalization interfaces known."

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

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From c-blair at illinois.edu  Sat Dec  1 19:27:48 2012
From: c-blair at illinois.edu (Charles Blair)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 12:27:48 -0600
Subject: [Users] installation error message: authentication protocol problem
Message-ID: <20121201122748.2386981a@debian.hsd1.il.comcast.net.>

   My claws-mail install (debian linux machine) continues
to get the warning "configured mailbox, but incomplete."

   I have noticed that I also am seeing

"While connecting to session manager:
None of the authentication protocols are supported."

   My current account preferences use what worked
successfully on a previous machine:

IMAP4 for receiving, Automatic authentication,
SSL used but not STARTTLS.  I have tried both checking
and not checking the "non-blocking" box.

   I have gone to /root/.claws-mail and tried to
copy the folders clawsrc and accountrc from my
previously working 3.76.  This did not seem to
make any difference.

   Thank you for continuing advice!


From mir at miras.org  Sat Dec  1 19:55:53 2012
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 19:55:53 +0100
Subject: [Users] installation error message: authentication protocol
 problem
In-Reply-To: <20121201122748.2386981a@debian.hsd1.il.comcast.net.>
References: <20121201122748.2386981a@debian.hsd1.il.comcast.net.>
Message-ID: <20121201195553.0cf30bbd@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 12:27:48 -0600
Charles Blair <c-blair at illinois.edu> wrote:

>    My claws-mail install (debian linux machine) continues
> to get the warning "configured mailbox, but incomplete."
> 
>    I have noticed that I also am seeing
> 
> "While connecting to session manager:
> None of the authentication protocols are supported."
> 
What does the network log window show (Shift+Ctrl+L) ? 

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

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michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
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From freebsd at grem.de  Sat Dec  1 20:02:16 2012
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 20:02:16 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 18:58:45 +0100
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 12:42:01 -0500
> Rich Pieri <richard.pieri at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 18:24:32 +0100
> > Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > What precisely is wrong with the function realpath from glibc?
> > 
> > http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/online/pages/man3/realpath.3.html
> > and scroll down to the BUGS section.
> > 
> I have seen that, but this is only the fact for POSIX.1-2001. In
> POSIX.1-2008 the bug have been solved. So the versions of glibc we are
> using all has this bug fixed.
> 
> "The GNU C Library is primarily designed to be a portable and high
> performance C library. It follows all relevant standards including ISO
> C11 and POSIX.1-2008. It is also internationalized and has one of the
> most complete internationalization interfaces known."
> 

Claws is not only built on Linux though, so even if realpath in glibc
is all ok that doesn't mean it is on other platforms and their
standard C libraries.

-- 
Michael Gmelin


From mir at miras.org  Sat Dec  1 20:12:45 2012
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 20:12:45 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 20:02:16 +0100
Michael Gmelin <freebsd at grem.de> wrote:

> 
> Claws is not only built on Linux though, so even if realpath in glibc
> is all ok that doesn't mean it is on other platforms and their
> standard C libraries.
> 
But compiling claws without glibc is IMHO impossible since must of the
core functionality uses glibc. Therefore a port of claws without glibc
seems to be a fantasy;-)


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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sat Dec  1 20:14:32 2012
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 19:14:32 +0000
Subject: [Users] installation error message: authentication protocol
 problem
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 12:27:48 -0600
Charles Blair <c-blair at illinois.edu> wrote:

Hello Charles,

>   I have gone to /root/.claws-mail and tried to

/root/?  What's the .claws-mail prefs directory doing there?  You
copied stuff from there to a regular user directory?  Is it possible that
you have a permissions issue with your prefs folder?

Or have I misunderstood what you're saying?

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From colin at colino.net  Sat Dec  1 20:20:35 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 20:20:35 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
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> > Claws is not only built on Linux though, so even if realpath in
> > glibc is all ok that doesn't mean it is on other platforms and their
> > standard C libraries.
> >   
> But compiling claws without glibc is IMHO impossible since must of the
> core functionality uses glibc. Therefore a port of claws without glibc
> seems to be a fantasy;-)

Hi Michael, 

You seem a bit tired :) we're talking glibc here which is a POSIX libc,
not glib which is a cross-platform abstraction library.

Claws Mail relies on libc, glib, gtk+ (and others) and on linux our
libc is usually glibc.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec  1 22:31:00 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat,  1 Dec 2012 22:31:00 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2828





--- Comment #3 from Colin Leroy  2012-12-01 22:30:59 ---
Hi,

So, CVS now has rc_dir canonicalized. Two issues with that patch though:
1) unified diff please
2) the "normal", no alternate-config-dir-case socket is going to change name
with that patch (from, for my example, /tmp/claws-mail-1000 to
/tmp/claws-mail-SOMEHASH. That's a big problem for everyone who's going to
upgrade his distro some day while Claws is running with a /tmp/claws-mail-1000
socket. After the upgrade, he'll click a mailto link in his browser, the new
binary will see no /tmp/claws-mail-SOMEHASH socket, so will create it and
start, and the poor user will have two claws-mail instances battling for his
~/.claws-mail.
There is no doubt that data loss would occur.

So, TL;DR for 2) is that the normal socket for normal RC dir must not change
name until the sun goes red giant on us :)

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From nicolas.claws at iselin.ch  Sat Dec  1 23:08:08 2012
From: nicolas.claws at iselin.ch (Nicolas Iselin)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 23:08:08 +0100
Subject: [Users] How to migrate  "read/unread" status from KMail to Claws?
Message-ID: <20121201230808.571d8a3b@omega>


Hi,

I know there was a similar question about this a few days ago, but I am
unable to find it in the archives. Sorry.

I am migrating KMail-mails to Claws using a combination of my own
scripts and some found in various places. I am quite successful right
now even on weird Kmail structures with a mixture of MBOX and MDIR
"folders". However, all mails appear in Claws as "unread" after
migration.

While KMail has that in "Status:" and "X-Status:" Headers (which are of
course also migrated), claws seems to store that information in the
tagsdb.

Is there any way to move that status from KMail-representation to
the tagsdb with a script (preferrably shell, but I would be able to do
it in perl if needed)?

Or is this problem implicitly solved when I would use a different
migration scenario (like moving the mail in Kmail to an IMAP Server and
then move it in Claws from imap to the local disk)?

Thanks for any hint...

Nicolas



From berndth at gmx.de  Sat Dec  1 23:13:23 2012
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 23:13:23 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121201132143.2f242748@mike>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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On Sa, 01.12.2012 13:21, Colin Leroy wrote:

>> But anyways, it's a matter of preference what's more valuable: Safety
>> against different uids trying to mess with the same config dir at the
>> same time, or DoS prevention. Personally, I lean towards the second.
>
>Different UIDs should not be messing with the same config dir anyway.

Agreed. I don't see the "different uids at the same time" usecase as an
interesting one either, as I wrote above.

>The UID in the socket name is there just to allow different users run
>different instances of Claws Mail at the same time, not to prevent DoS
>or anything.

Of course it's not there to prevent DoS. But - and this is the problem
Mones spotted - the way it's implemented, it makes Claws Mail vulnerable
for local DoS attacks. It's trivialy easy to block Claws Mail for all
users on a shared machine (just create a bunch of /tmp/claws-mail-1234
files). And, if the "different uids" usecase is not interesting
anyways, on which we seem to agree, it's making Claws Mail vulnerable
for no benefit whatsoever.

This is bad design, and it doesn't have anything to do with
alternate-config-dir. It just poped up by coincidence during that topic.

The solution would be to ...

>Also, I feel we're getting a little bit carried away there with
>XDG_RUNTIME_DIR and everything. Supporting XDG would be great, but we
>don't, right now. 

... create your socket in a user-specific place instead of public /tmp.
Now, you can either make up a directory name, or use a specified and
configured one that's already there. By coincidence, there indeed is
already a spec for exactly this usecase, it's followed on many modern
machines, and it happens to be called XDG_RUNTIME_DIR. There's nothing
magic, really.

And you don't need to follow XDG either. On the contrary, if that
variable is set, it help you in so far as it guarantees that it's gonna
work (you're guaranteed to be able to create unix domain sockets there,
unlike in random directories that you make up, which could themselves
be on FAT or whatever).

>Maybe we can start caring about XDG_RUNTIME_DIR when we'll have
>migrated our config dir to XDG_CONDIR_DIR and imap caches to
>XDG_CACHE_DIR.

General XDG conformity is a completely unrelated topic.

>In the meantime I couldn't care less if the socket name is rendered
>unique using UID, config-dir-name hash, md5sum of the user's full name
>appended to the computer domain name or whatever.

Now you're talking about a feature (being able to put config dir on FAT
or similarly limited filesystems). That's, as I said above, not really
related to above notes. It could be done either way (putting it
into /tmp, or putting it into /run/user/foo would work equally well
feature-wise).

>> don't remove uid from socket name, just add the MD5, otherwise two
>>different users could clash using the same dir.

Weird quoting. I didn't write that.

>That's misguided, we sure as hell don't want two users running two
>instances of Claws Mail, writing UIDL files, preferences and IMAP cache
>files in the same configuration directory.
>
>Having the unicity on config dirs only is actually better than on UID +
>config dir. Of course the hash has to be on the absolute path.
>
>Or am I missing something there?

No, you're not. That's exactly what I said ("But that's actually a
feature").

Holger
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From berndth at gmx.de  Sat Dec  1 23:21:47 2012
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 23:21:47 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
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On Fr, 30.11.2012 19:15, Rich Pieri wrote:

>> In fact, when I ssh into my machine, it is set. Not that it would
>> matter. And I don't really care about a good place to put unix
>> domain sockets on windows right now, thank you very much.
>
>It isn't set on any of my Debian servers.

Then you just found out how the Debian versions that you use do it, not
how it's "usually" or always done. Linux is (unfortunately) too diverse
for this kind of generalizations.

>> I doubt that you have the authority (or insight) to make this kind of
>> design decisions for Claws Mail. That's up to the maintainers.
>
>Log into a computer with GNU Emacs installed. Look for the files
>pop3.el or pop3.el.gz. Look at the author line. That's me. I was
>writing mail handling software before either Claws or Sylpheed existed.
>I'd say that gives me at least some insight into how to do it right.

That's cute, but it doesn't impress me much, sorry.

I showed you that you didn't really understand the problem scope in the
first place (in the part that you stripped out in your quoting, by
coincidence).

Holger


From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 02:10:29 2012
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 20:10:29 -0500
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 23:21:47 +0100
Holger Berndt <berndth at gmx.de> wrote:

> Then you just found out how the Debian versions that you use do it,
> not how it's "usually" or always done. Linux is (unfortunately) too
> diverse for this kind of generalizations.

This is my point: you can't expect an environment variable to be set
without having a hard dependency. If you aren't ready to make this
happen then don't even suggest it.


> That's cute, but it doesn't impress me much, sorry.

You questioned my insight into mail handling practices and decisions. I
called you on it. Simple as that.

> I showed you that you didn't really understand the problem scope in
> the first place (in the part that you stripped out in your quoting, by
> coincidence).

There is no scope. Losing mail is the worst thing that can happen.
Period. Because, in fact, we WERE talking about concurrent access. The
whole reason that this discussion happened is because Ricardo brought
it up.

-- 
Rich P.


From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 02:26:31 2012
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 20:26:31 -0500
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121201213100.E6193853BF@mx.colino.net>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
	<20121201213100.E6193853BF@mx.colino.net>
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On Sat,  1 Dec 2012 22:31:00 +0100 (CET)
noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:

> --- Comment #3 from Colin Leroy  2012-12-01 22:30:59 ---
> Hi,
> 
> So, CVS now has rc_dir canonicalized. Two issues with that patch
> though: 1) unified diff please

I'll work on it this coming week. I've been busy the past couple of
days. Perhaps you heard about the city-wide power failure in Cambridge,
MA on Thursday afternoon? My mail server ate it's system drive because
of that despite the server being on a UPS and being shut down cleanly
(it seemed). I spent Friday afternoon and evening building a new mail
server and restoring my users' mail from backups and the salvaged data
drives.

 
> So, TL;DR for 2) is that the normal socket for normal RC dir must not
> change name until the sun goes red giant on us :)

Does it make sense to test the existence of both sockets and do
the right thing if either exists?

-- 
Rich P.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec  2 03:08:26 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun,  2 Dec 2012 03:08:26 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121202020826.D769D853BF@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2828





--- Comment #4 from Ricardo Mones  2012-12-02 03:08:25 ---
The claws-mail-uid/md5hashsocket which has been proposed on the users list
solves this problem, as clashes with existing claws-mail-uid socket files.

Furthermore, on detecting a file instead of a directory new versions can
shutdown previous through the socket (probably asking/warning user) and
continue loading. No fight would happen, and no need to wait for such
astronomical events ;)

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From ricardo at mones.org  Sun Dec  2 03:48:26 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 03:48:26 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 23:13:23 +0100
Holger Berndt <berndth at gmx.de> wrote:

> On Sa, 01.12.2012 13:21, Colin Leroy wrote:
> 
> >> But anyways, it's a matter of preference what's more valuable: Safety
> >> against different uids trying to mess with the same config dir at the
> >> same time, or DoS prevention. Personally, I lean towards the second.
> >
> >Different UIDs should not be messing with the same config dir anyway.
> 
> Agreed. I don't see the "different uids at the same time" usecase as an
> interesting one either, as I wrote above.

  Indeed, I thought of it as a possibility for sharing read-only config dirs
  (and mail relative to users $HOME), but now I agree it's a bad idea™ for
  most of the cases, or at least until runtime data is separated from config.

> >The UID in the socket name is there just to allow different users run
> >different instances of Claws Mail at the same time, not to prevent DoS
> >or anything.
> 
> Of course it's not there to prevent DoS. But - and this is the problem
> Mones spotted - the way it's implemented, it makes Claws Mail vulnerable
> for local DoS attacks. It's trivialy easy to block Claws Mail for all
> users on a shared machine (just create a bunch of /tmp/claws-mail-1234
> files). And, if the "different uids" usecase is not interesting
> anyways, on which we seem to agree, it's making Claws Mail vulnerable
> for no benefit whatsoever.
> 
> This is bad design, and it doesn't have anything to do with
> alternate-config-dir. It just poped up by coincidence during that topic.

  Right, we had the problem before.

> The solution would be to ...
> 
> >Also, I feel we're getting a little bit carried away there with
> >XDG_RUNTIME_DIR and everything. Supporting XDG would be great, but we
> >don't, right now. 
> 
> ... create your socket in a user-specific place instead of public /tmp.
> Now, you can either make up a directory name, or use a specified and
> configured one that's already there. By coincidence, there indeed is
> already a spec for exactly this usecase, it's followed on many modern
> machines, and it happens to be called XDG_RUNTIME_DIR. There's nothing
> magic, really.
> 
> And you don't need to follow XDG either. On the contrary, if that
> variable is set, it help you in so far as it guarantees that it's gonna
> work (you're guaranteed to be able to create unix domain sockets there,
> unlike in random directories that you make up, which could themselves
> be on FAT or whatever).

  The public directory can still be used as long as the names created cannot
  be easily guessable. The MD5 makes it a bit more difficult. Using content
  of XDG_RUNTIME_DIR could be interesting, yes. But on machines where it's
  not defined we still need some default, because making it required doesn't
  sound good.

> >Maybe we can start caring about XDG_RUNTIME_DIR when we'll have
> >migrated our config dir to XDG_CONDIR_DIR and imap caches to
> >XDG_CACHE_DIR.
> 
> General XDG conformity is a completely unrelated topic.
> 
> >In the meantime I couldn't care less if the socket name is rendered
> >unique using UID, config-dir-name hash, md5sum of the user's full name
> >appended to the computer domain name or whatever.
> 
> Now you're talking about a feature (being able to put config dir on FAT
> or similarly limited filesystems). That's, as I said above, not really
> related to above notes. It could be done either way (putting it
> into /tmp, or putting it into /run/user/foo would work equally well
> feature-wise).
> 
> >> don't remove uid from socket name, just add the MD5, otherwise two
> >>different users could clash using the same dir.
> 
> Weird quoting. I didn't write that.

  Nope, that was me :)

> >That's misguided, we sure as hell don't want two users running two
> >instances of Claws Mail, writing UIDL files, preferences and IMAP cache
> >files in the same configuration directory.
> >
> >Having the unicity on config dirs only is actually better than on UID +
> >config dir. Of course the hash has to be on the absolute path.
> >
> >Or am I missing something there?
> 
> No, you're not. That's exactly what I said ("But that's actually a
> feature").

  regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  You have the capacity to learn from mistakes. You'll learn a lot 
  today.                                           /usr/games/fortune

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From ricardo at mones.org  Sun Dec  2 04:13:09 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 04:13:09 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 20:10:29 -0500
Rich Pieri <richard.pieri at gmail.com> wrote:

> > I showed you that you didn't really understand the problem scope in
> > the first place (in the part that you stripped out in your quoting, by
> > coincidence).  
> 
> There is no scope. Losing mail is the worst thing that can happen.

  Right, I think nobody is discussing that.

> Period. Because, in fact, we WERE talking about concurrent access. The
> whole reason that this discussion happened is because Ricardo brought
> it up.

  Not really, I'm afraid Holger was right here. As he explained concurrent
  access to same config dir by two different instances it's already
  possible, and unavoidable unless the feature is removed, which is not
  planned. Users are expected to know what they do when using
  --alternate-config-dir, otherwise better not to use it, like rm -f.

  This whole digression, which I didn't bring to @users in fact, has more to
  do with the name of the locking mechanism which _already_ guarantees two
  instances cannot access launching user's config. Nothing else.

  regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  Quantity derives from measurement, figures from quantities, 
  comparisons from figures, and victories from comparisons. 
                                                              Sun Tzu
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From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 06:03:00 2012
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 00:03:00 -0500
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121202020826.D769D853BF@mx.colino.net>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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> --- Comment #4 from Ricardo Mones  2012-12-02 03:08:25 ---
> The claws-mail-uid/md5hashsocket which has been proposed on the users
> list solves this problem, as clashes with existing claws-mail-uid
> socket files.

I proposed this. I was told, "[i]f it's to be per-user, it should just
be XDG_RUNTIME_DIR."

Enough. I can't deal with this any more. You guys have my proposal, you
have the logic behind it, and you have a working context diff. YOU
figure out how you want to implement it.

-- 
Rich P.


From colin at colino.net  Sun Dec  2 10:01:27 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 10:01:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121202041309.5665e20c@svn.mones.org>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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On 02 December 2012 at 04h13, Ricardo Mones wrote:

Hi, 

>   Not really, I'm afraid Holger was right here. As he explained
> concurrent access to same config dir by two different instances it's
> already possible, and unavoidable unless the feature is removed,
> which is not planned.

Well, now that I'm aware of it, I *am* planning on removing that
possibility, as it's too unpredicable - contrary to rm -f.

-- 
Colin
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From colin at colino.net  Sun Dec  2 10:09:13 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 10:09:13 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121201202631.000053a8@unknown>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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On 01 December 2012 at 20h26, Rich Pieri wrote:

Hi, 

> > So, CVS now has rc_dir canonicalized. Two issues with that patch
> > though: 1) unified diff please  
> 
> I'll work on it this coming week.

Is that superceded by your next mail (ID
20121202000300.00006610 at unknown)? So that I know whether to do it or
not.

> I've been busy the past couple of days. Perhaps you heard about the
> city-wide power failure in Cambridge, MA on Thursday afternoon? My
> mail server ate it's system drive because of that despite the server
> being on a UPS and being shut down cleanly (it seemed). I spent
> Friday afternoon and evening building a new mail server and restoring
> my users' mail from backups and the salvaged data drives.

Yeah, servers tend to suicide themselves for no apparent reason at the
worst times possible... That's annoying as hell! 
I tend to put SSDs in the mission-critical servers now, they seem to
handle age better than disks, at the expense of being not so big.
 
> > So, TL;DR for 2) is that the normal socket for normal RC dir must
> > not change name until the sun goes red giant on us :)  
> 
> Does it make sense to test the existence of both sockets and do
> the right thing if either exists?

Yes :)

> > The claws-mail-uid/md5hashsocket which has been proposed on the
> > users list solves this problem, as clashes with existing
> > claws-mail-uid socket files.  
> 
> I proposed this. I was told, "[i]f it's to be per-user, it should just
> be XDG_RUNTIME_DIR."

Well, that was a good idea (your proposition). The problem with
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is that it won't work for sure and we have to have a
failback in any case. That makes a lot of logic for not very much
benefits.
-- 
Colin
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From inigo_aldazabal at ehu.es  Sun Dec  2 11:31:34 2012
From: inigo_aldazabal at ehu.es (Inigo Aldazabal Mensa)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 11:31:34 +0100
Subject: [Users] How to migrate "read/unread" status from KMail to Claws?
In-Reply-To: <20121201230808.571d8a3b@omega>
References: <20121201230808.571d8a3b@omega>
Message-ID: <201212021131.34333.inigo_aldazabal@ehu.es>

El Saturday 01 December 2012 a las 23:08,  Nicolas Iselin escribió:
> Hi,
>
> I know there was a similar question about this a few days ago, but I am
> unable to find it in the archives. Sorry.

I assume you are referring to my question

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.mail.sylpheed.claws.general/52678

which remains unanswered, but... read on.

> I am migrating KMail-mails to Claws using a combination of my own
> scripts and some found in various places. I am quite successful right
> now even on weird Kmail structures with a mixture of MBOX and MDIR
> "folders". However, all mails appear in Claws as "unread" after
> migration.
>
> While KMail has that in "Status:" and "X-Status:" Headers (which are of
> course also migrated), claws seems to store that information in the
> tagsdb.
>
> Is there any way to move that status from KMail-representation to
> the tagsdb with a script (preferrably shell, but I would be able to do
> it in perl if needed)?

Yes there is. I finally looked for the relevant information in the Claws 
sources and I have the migration script almost done. I plan to finish it 
in a couple of days and I'll post it back here.


>
> Or is this problem implicitly solved when I would use a different
> migration scenario (like moving the mail in Kmail to an IMAP Server and
> then move it in Claws from imap to the local disk)?

I'm also interested on this information.


Inigo





From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Dec  2 16:03:41 2012
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 16:03:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] Gmail quote problem
In-Reply-To: <20121130182838.3b69b8b2@from-theboss.911networks.com>
References: <20121130182403.55aecb11@from-theboss.911networks.com>
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Message-ID: <20121202160341.7d53aea3@penny>

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:28:38 -0800
sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:

> sorry this is try #3!
> 
> It won't format properly so you can see my problem. So can you please
> look at the source (Ctrl-U).

Have you tried double-clicking the "[...]" ? It is a feature of Claws Mail to
collapse quotes, to make long-winded threads more readable.

You can turn it off in preferences, in /Message View/Text Options.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian dot sk>


From berndth at gmx.de  Sun Dec  2 16:47:04 2012
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 16:47:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121201201029.00003237@unknown>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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On Sa, 01.12.2012 20:10, Rich Pieri wrote:

>> Then you just found out how the Debian versions that you use do it,
>> not how it's "usually" or always done. Linux is (unfortunately) too
>> diverse for this kind of generalizations.
>
>This is my point: you can't expect an environment variable to be set
>without having a hard dependency. If you aren't ready to make this
>happen then don't even suggest it.

... because ... ?

It's perfectly reasonable to obey system and/or user settings (which
are expressed via environment variables, or otherwise), and fall back to
something else if it's not set.

>> That's cute, but it doesn't impress me much, sorry.
>
>You questioned my insight into mail handling practices and decisions. I
>called you on it. Simple as that.

No. I questioned your insight into the current topic, and in fact, you
continue to demonstrate that you're lacking it. Because...

>> I showed you that you didn't really understand the problem scope in
>> the first place (in the part that you stripped out in your quoting, by
>> coincidence).
>
>There is no scope. Losing mail is the worst thing that can happen.
>Period. Because, in fact, we WERE talking about concurrent access. The
>whole reason that this discussion happened is because Ricardo brought
>it up.

... I explained it to you already, and I am explaining it again because
you still didn't get it: We are _NOT_ talking about concurrent access to
the MAILBOX! Claws Mail will happily let you interact with the same
mailbox at the same time, using --alternate-config-dir.

Holger


From berndth at gmx.de  Sun Dec  2 17:09:34 2012
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 17:09:34 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121202000300.00006610@unknown>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
	<20121202020826.D769D853BF@mx.colino.net>
	<20121202000300.00006610@unknown>
Message-ID: <20121202170934.3c3f4316@wodan>

On So, 02.12.2012 00:03, Rich Pieri wrote:

>Enough. I can't deal with this any more. You guys have my proposal, you
>have the logic behind it, and you have a working context diff. YOU
>figure out how you want to implement it.

In fact, we have an implementation for MY proposal [1] from you which
lacks normalization.  You might remember that your proposal was an
additional config option which would have introduced yet more problems.

And we have a discussion whether the socket should be in a public or
private place, because Mones spotted a problem with the public place
which made me reconsider. 

So, indeed, somebody should decide whether that problem is considered
too academic, and we don't care, or whether it's worth attacking, in
which case the need for a live-update migration path is the worst part.

Holger

[1] http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2012-November/004614.html


From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 18:38:26 2012
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 12:38:26 -0500
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
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On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 16:47:04 +0100
Holger Berndt <berndth at gmx.de> wrote:

> ... I explained it to you already, and I am explaining it again
> because you still didn't get it: We are _NOT_ talking about
> concurrent access to the MAILBOX! Claws Mail will happily let you
> interact with the same mailbox at the same time, using
> --alternate-config-dir.

I say -- and I've always maintained -- that concurrent access to
mailboxes is bad behavior. Colin agrees. If you disagree then take it up
with him.

-- 
Rich P.


From berndth at gmx.de  Sun Dec  2 19:08:36 2012
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 19:08:36 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121202123826.000008c8@unknown>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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On So, 02.12.2012 12:38, Rich Pieri wrote:

>On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 16:47:04 +0100
>Holger Berndt <berndth at gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> ... I explained it to you already, and I am explaining it again
>> because you still didn't get it: We are _NOT_ talking about
>> concurrent access to the MAILBOX! Claws Mail will happily let you
>> interact with the same mailbox at the same time, using
>> --alternate-config-dir.
>
>I say -- and I've always maintained -- that concurrent access to
>mailboxes is bad behavior. Colin agrees. If you disagree then take it up
>with him.

I always said killing people is bad behaviour. My mom agrees. If you
disagree, take it up with my mom.

But I guess you're not even realizing that you're pulling strawmen.

Again: Concurrent mailbox access is not the topic in this thread. It
never was (outside your own misguided posts). The socket does NOT
prevent concurrent mailbox access. I didn't do so in the past, and it
doesn't do so with your patch applied.

Holger


From colin at colino.net  Sun Dec  2 19:37:18 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 19:37:18 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121202123826.000008c8@unknown>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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	<20121130234324.5d2698e7@wodan> <20121130191518.000058b3@unknown>
	<20121201232147.53260a6f@wodan> <20121201201029.00003237@unknown>
	<20121202164704.668c14cb@wodan> <20121202123826.000008c8@unknown>
Message-ID: <20121202193718.463004e8@mike>

On 02 December 2012 at 12h38, Rich Pieri wrote:

Hi, 

> I say -- and I've always maintained -- that concurrent access to
> mailboxes is bad behavior. Colin agrees. If you disagree then take it
> up with him.

In fact concurrent mailbox access is OK, be it MH or IMAP. What's
really dangerous is concurrent config dir access :) 

-- 
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From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 19:37:33 2012
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 13:37:33 -0500
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121202190836.5bc2270b@wodan>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
	<20121128203335.62FDE853E3@mx.colino.net>
	<20121128161734.000023b5@unknown> <20121128232229.5dadf5e7@sumiciu>
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	<20121202164704.668c14cb@wodan> <20121202123826.000008c8@unknown>
	<20121202190836.5bc2270b@wodan>
Message-ID: <20121202133733.00005217@unknown>

Holger,

I don't know why you're even bothering. Or why I'm bothering. I've
washed my hands of it. If you have a problem with it then take it up
with Colin.

-- 
Rich P.


From berndth at gmx.de  Sun Dec  2 20:27:12 2012
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 20:27:12 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121202133733.00005217@unknown>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
	<20121128203335.62FDE853E3@mx.colino.net>
	<20121128161734.000023b5@unknown> <20121128232229.5dadf5e7@sumiciu>
	<20121129010838.373f5ee8@wodan> <20121128194739.00004e44@unknown>
	<20121129083359.GC29348@trasgu> <20121129110229.0000000b@unknown>
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	<20121202190836.5bc2270b@wodan> <20121202133733.00005217@unknown>
Message-ID: <20121202202712.5ff1283e@wodan>

On So, 02.12.2012 13:37, Rich Pieri wrote:

>I don't know why you're even bothering. Or why I'm bothering. I've
>washed my hands of it. If you have a problem with it then take it up
>with Colin.

You didn't understand what Colin was saying either. But I leave it up
to him to try to enlighten you.

Holger


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec  2 21:00:29 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun,  2 Dec 2012 21:00:29 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2829] New: Rightclicking folder lacks "Update/Refresh
 all feeds (in folder)" menu entry
Message-ID: <bug-2829-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2829

           Summary: Rightclicking folder lacks "Update/Refresh all feeds
                    (in folder)" menu entry
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: CVS
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/RSSyl
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: gusnan at gusnan.se


What do you guys think about a menuentry for folders to update only all feeds
that is located in that folder? There is a menuentry for "Refresh all feeds"
which refreshes all feeds that are registered in RSSyl - how about a
possibility to refresh only a subset of the feeds?

Using folders to group feeds that are similar in content, it might be a good
idea to be able to refresh only this subset of all feeds.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec  2 21:36:35 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun,  2 Dec 2012 21:36:35 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121202203635.22E40FE91@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2828





--- Comment #5 from users  2012-12-02 21:36:34 ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest CVS and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://www.claws-mail.org/tracker/

2012-12-02 [colin]    3.9.0cvs36

    * src/main.c
        Move control sockets inside their own directory,
        $TMPDIR/claws-mail-$UID/, and name them after the configuration        
directory md5 hash. That allows
        - cleaner separation of sockets and config dirs in
          case of alternate config directories
        - forward migration is handled: if $TMPDIR/claws-mail-$UID
          exists as a socket, use it to control the running entity
        - backwards migration is handled: starting an old Claws Mail
          version will bail out as creating the legacy socket won't
          be possible.
        - migration for alternate-config-dirs is not handled, which
          could be mentioned in release notes.
        Fixes bug #2828, "Use MD5 digest for socket name"

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From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 22:41:56 2012
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 16:41:56 -0500
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121202193718.463004e8@mike>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
	<20121128203335.62FDE853E3@mx.colino.net>
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	<20121202193718.463004e8@mike>
Message-ID: <20121202164156.00006a83@unknown>

On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 19:37:18 +0100
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

> In fact concurrent mailbox access is OK, be it MH or IMAP.

Okay, I guess we don't agree on this point. :)

The UW, Courier and Dovecot IMAP servers try to be meticulous about
locking files and directories before performing potentially destructive
operations. They do this specifically to avoid concurrent writes which
would result in damaged or destroyed mail.

I won't make statements about MH or nhm since I haven't used them in
many years.

Consider this: user has his home directory on NFS or AFS. User starts
CM on one workstation. User starts CM on another workstation. This is a
concurrency problem. Unix Domain Sockets are local to the nodes they
are created on. There is no place that you can put the lock socket
where the second instance can tell that it is the second instance. Both
instances have full write access to the same claws-mark and claws-cache
files in the MH directories.

This is an environment that I work in every day: I manage an AFS cell
for about 150 users. One of my faculty lost 3 months worth of mail late
last year due to a similar problem involving Thunderbird.

There's a new wrinkle coming down the 'pike: Dropbox. Colleges and
universities that have traditionally provided computing facilities to
students have been looking at Dropbox to replace or supplement NFS and
AFS home directories. Consider how messy things can get if a user with
such a profile logs in and starts CM before the Dropbox software fully
synchronizes the configuration and cache (to wit: a partial copy of the
config directory).

I've not seen this implemented yet so I can't say just how bad it would
be. One of my reasons for addressing the socket path is to put a CM
configuration in a Dropbox folder to see what happens under various
abuses. The worst case I can imagine falls into the "catastrophic"
category.

-- 
Rich P.


From berndth at gmx.de  Sun Dec  2 23:49:23 2012
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 23:49:23 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121202193718.463004e8@mike>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
	<20121128203335.62FDE853E3@mx.colino.net>
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	<20121202164704.668c14cb@wodan> <20121202123826.000008c8@unknown>
	<20121202193718.463004e8@mike>
Message-ID: <20121202234923.7c64076a@wodan>

On So, 02.12.2012 19:37, Colin Leroy wrote:

>In fact concurrent mailbox access is OK, be it MH or IMAP.

If I remember correctly, concurrent access to an MH mailbox usually
works - but there are race conditions, and in rare cases you might
end up with messed up or even lost messages. So I would sort concurrent
access to a mailbox under "do at your own risk".

But that's a completely different topic.

Holger
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From ricardo at mones.org  Mon Dec  3 02:23:15 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 02:23:15 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121202100127.7e282d6f@mike>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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  Hi Colin,

On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 10:01:27 +0100
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

> On 02 December 2012 at 04h13, Ricardo Mones wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> >   Not really, I'm afraid Holger was right here. As he explained
> > concurrent access to same config dir by two different instances it's
> > already possible, and unavoidable unless the feature is removed,
> > which is not planned.
> 
> Well, now that I'm aware of it, I *am* planning on removing that
> possibility, as it's too unpredicable - contrary to rm -f.

  Not sure why --alternate-config-dir has to be a collateral damage here. The
  usual use case for it of a single user who wants several configs to be used
  sequentially is still perfectly valid and has no problems.

  regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  The world will end in 5 minutes. Please log out.            Unknown
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec  3 02:30:26 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  3 Dec 2012 02:30:26 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1137] loading plugins with same profile on different
	archs
In-Reply-To: <bug-1137-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1137-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121203013026.5EC1E8542F@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1137


Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |FIXED




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From ninomraz at gmail.com  Mon Dec  3 05:31:12 2012
From: ninomraz at gmail.com (Nick M.)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 05:31:12 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121202041309.5665e20c@svn.mones.org>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
	<20121128203335.62FDE853E3@mx.colino.net>
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On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 4:13 AM, Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:
>   ... Users are expected to know what they do when using
>   --alternate-config-dir, otherwise better not to use it...

Over-riding default locations of user's data is the most common thing
users have
to do. I don't know what exactly you mean by "must know what they do", but such
basic intervention should certainly require no knowledge of internal
workings of the
application or finer points of the file-system.

Nick


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec  3 07:20:32 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  3 Dec 2012 07:20:32 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2829] Rightclicking folder lacks "Update/Refresh all
 feeds (in folder)" menu entry
In-Reply-To: <bug-2829-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2829-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121203062032.553E48542F@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2829





--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian  2012-12-03 07:20:31 ---
This is already possible in my RSSyl rewrite, and you can help bringing it
closer to the release by testing it. See
http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/devel/2012-January/000201.html

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From ricardo at mones.org  Mon Dec  3 08:47:34 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 08:47:34 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <CAA7teA7Zyrp+Jn_8d6tXpP_F2sB63RAmSYRyW51n=mJLks7oDA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 05:31:12 +0100
"Nick M." <ninomraz at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 4:13 AM, Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:
> >   ... Users are expected to know what they do when using
> >   --alternate-config-dir, otherwise better not to use it...
> 
> Over-riding default locations of user's data is the most common thing
> users have
> to do. I don't know what exactly you mean by "must know what they do", but
> such basic intervention should certainly require no knowledge of internal
> workings of the
> application or finer points of the file-system.

  It doesn't, but if weird things are done deliberately, like using that
  option with the user's default config dir (!) and then launch another
  instance, weird things can happen. Since 3.9.0cvs37 not anymore ;-)
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
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From colin at colino.net  Mon Dec  3 09:40:40 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 09:40:40 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
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References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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Message-ID: <20121203094040.7bc0aa42@colin>

On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 02:23:15 +0100, Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
wrote:

> > Well, now that I'm aware of it, I *am* planning on removing that
> > possibility, as it's too unpredicable - contrary to rm -f.  
> 
>   Not sure why --alternate-config-dir has to be a collateral damage
> here. The usual use case for it of a single user who wants several
> configs to be used sequentially is still perfectly valid and has no
> problems.

I wasn't thinking about nuking --alternate-config-dir but the
possibility to have two users running an instance of claws using the
same alternate-config-dir. But with what I implemented that won't be
possible, so forget it :)

It seems that topic generates a lot of misunderstanding :-)
-- 
Colin


From ricardo at mones.org  Mon Dec  3 10:01:47 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 10:01:47 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121203094040.7bc0aa42@colin>
References: <20121130010022.31fbc26d@wodan> <20121129201759.0000240f@unknown>
	<20121130234324.5d2698e7@wodan> <20121130191518.000058b3@unknown>
	<20121201232147.53260a6f@wodan> <20121201201029.00003237@unknown>
	<20121202041309.5665e20c@svn.mones.org>
	<20121202100127.7e282d6f@mike>
	<20121203022315.05630e69@svn.mones.org>
	<20121203094040.7bc0aa42@colin>
Message-ID: <20121203090147.GE29348@trasgu>

On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 09:40:40AM +0100, Colin Leroy wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 02:23:15 +0100, Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > > Well, now that I'm aware of it, I *am* planning on removing that
> > > possibility, as it's too unpredicable - contrary to rm -f.  
> > 
> >   Not sure why --alternate-config-dir has to be a collateral damage
> > here. The usual use case for it of a single user who wants several
> > configs to be used sequentially is still perfectly valid and has no
> > problems.
> 
> I wasn't thinking about nuking --alternate-config-dir but the
> possibility to have two users running an instance of claws using the
> same alternate-config-dir. But with what I implemented that won't be
> possible, so forget it :)

  Saw it, nice patch, thanks ;)
 
> It seems that topic generates a lot of misunderstanding :-)

  Indeed, largest thread in ages... :)
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  00:45 < hammar> cool.. have you used rssyl?                          
  00:46 <@Ticho> um, yes                            Seen on #sylpheed

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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Mon Dec  3 11:35:24 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 10:35:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121202164156.00006a83@unknown>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
	<20121128203335.62FDE853E3@mx.colino.net>
	<20121128161734.000023b5@unknown> <20121128232229.5dadf5e7@sumiciu>
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	<20121130010022.31fbc26d@wodan> <20121129201759.0000240f@unknown>
	<20121130234324.5d2698e7@wodan> <20121130191518.000058b3@unknown>
	<20121201232147.53260a6f@wodan> <20121201201029.00003237@unknown>
	<20121202164704.668c14cb@wodan> <20121202123826.000008c8@unknown>
	<20121202193718.463004e8@mike> <20121202164156.00006a83@unknown>
Message-ID: <20121203103524.000001c4@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 16:41:56 -0500
Rich Pieri wrote:

> > In fact concurrent mailbox access is OK, be it MH or IMAP.  
> 
> Okay, I guess we don't agree on this point. :)
> 
> The UW, Courier and Dovecot IMAP servers try to be meticulous about
> locking files and directories before performing potentially
> destructive operations. They do this specifically to avoid concurrent
> writes which would result in damaged or destroyed mail.

I think that Colin said concurrent _access_ deliberately, precisely
because IMAP has mechanisms to prevent concurrent _writes_.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec  3 16:54:34 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  3 Dec 2012 16:54:34 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2141] Notification plugin segfaults on claws-mail exit
 if set to monitor a RSS-folder
In-Reply-To: <bug-2141-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2141-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121203155434.D141E85480@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2141


Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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            Version|3.7.6                       |CVS




--- Comment #13 from Ricardo Mones  2012-12-03 16:54:33 ---
This still happens on current CVS, so changing version accordingly.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec  3 17:00:00 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  3 Dec 2012 17:00:00 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1996] S/MIME key not selected
In-Reply-To: <bug-1996-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1996-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121203160000.A8E6885480@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1996


Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |FIXED




--- Comment #5 from Ricardo Mones  2012-12-03 16:59:59 ---
Given the time passed I hope a package has been released, otherwise I'd think
about switching distribution... :)

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From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Mon Dec  3 18:19:14 2012
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 12:19:14 -0500
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2828] Use MD5 digest for socket name
In-Reply-To: <20121203103524.000001c4@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <bug-2828-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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	<20121130010022.31fbc26d@wodan> <20121129201759.0000240f@unknown>
	<20121130234324.5d2698e7@wodan> <20121130191518.000058b3@unknown>
	<20121201232147.53260a6f@wodan> <20121201201029.00003237@unknown>
	<20121202164704.668c14cb@wodan> <20121202123826.000008c8@unknown>
	<20121202193718.463004e8@mike> <20121202164156.00006a83@unknown>
	<20121203103524.000001c4@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20121203121914.00006f31@unknown>

On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 10:35:24 +0000
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

> I think that Colin said concurrent _access_ deliberately, precisely
> because IMAP has mechanisms to prevent concurrent _writes_.

Unqualified "access" means full permission to read and write. If Colin
did mean read-only access then it should have been clearly indicated.

I admit to being pedantic about this. Losing mail is one of my worst
nightmares.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec  4 10:10:37 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue,  4 Dec 2012 10:10:37 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2768] Wrong detection of charset in Youtube
	notification e-mail
In-Reply-To: <bug-2768-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2768-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121204091037.B7BA5853C2@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2768





--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones  2012-12-04 10:10:36 ---
Can you attach the raw file of one of these mails? You can obscure email
addresses, server names/addresses or even content between boundaries you don't
want to expose, of course, those are not important.

Anyway I suspect this is a bug of Youtube: the wrong displayed chars are just
one char, like ISO-8859-1 displayed as UTF-8. If they were UTF-8 displayed as
ISO-8859-1 they should be two wrong chars.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec  4 15:58:15 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue,  4 Dec 2012 15:58:15 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2830] New: Fancy does not "copy" properly
Message-ID: <bug-2830-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2830

           Summary: Fancy does not "copy" properly
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: CVS
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Fancy
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: clawsmail at kushwaha.com


The right-click-to-copy-a-link function in Fancy is different from the
right-click-to-copy-a-link function of text display.

I run a virtual box and when I copy a link using the latter, it gets copied
into the clipboard which is then picked up by the VM and is then available to
me in my host OS. However, when I copy a link in Fancy, it shows up in the
clipboard within the virtual OS but is not picked up by the VM. If I simply
copy the link into a text box of something and then copy it again, it works!

Could the Fancy plug-in please be enhanced to use the same copy function as the
text-rendered-as-link version so that the copy-paste works better.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec  4 17:44:46 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue,  4 Dec 2012 17:44:46 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2768] Wrong detection of charset in Youtube
	notification e-mail
In-Reply-To: <bug-2768-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2768-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121204164446.97014853C2@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2768





--- Comment #2 from D�niel Fraga  2012-12-04 17:44:46 ---
Created an attachment (id=1200)
 --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1200)
Raw message from youtube

Hi Ricardo! It's attached.

A way to fix it is simply changing the line (notice the broken '">':

    <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8=
">

to this:

    <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8=">

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec  4 18:31:46 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue,  4 Dec 2012 18:31:46 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2768] Wrong detection of charset in Youtube
	notification e-mail
In-Reply-To: <bug-2768-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2768-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121204173146.45E3F853C2@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2768


Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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         Resolution|                            |INVALID




--- Comment #3 from Ricardo Mones  2012-12-04 18:31:45 ---
The change you mention doesn't fix anything here (CVS version), but if I change
the head line to:

<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1=
">

It renders perfectly, as the HTML is in fact ISO, not UTF-8.

Sorry, but I'm afraid this is a Youtube generator bug.

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From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Wed Dec  5 01:33:49 2012
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 16:33:49 -0800
Subject: [Users] Problem displaying replies
Message-ID: <20121204163349.7b8479b3@from-theboss.911networks.com>

Hi,

When reading back and forth email messages with quotes it shows as
this example:

===start================
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm at htt-consult.com> wrote:
 [...]  

 [...]  
 [...]  
 [...]  

I'm sorry, I am afraid I misunderstood the question. 

Blah blah
===end=================

I have to double click on [...] to see what they are replying to:

I have:

Preferences > Text Options > quotation > Checkmark: Collapse quoted text on double click 

I have also tried with the checkmark off. Then I can't even click to
expand the text.

CM 390, xUbuntu 12.04
Linux pc-00192 3.2.0-34-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Thu Nov 15 10:48:16 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

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From kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com  Wed Dec  5 06:22:44 2012
From: kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com (Abhay S. Kushwaha)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 10:52:44 +0530
Subject: [Users] Problem displaying replies
In-Reply-To: <20121204163349.7b8479b3@from-theboss.911networks.com>
References: <20121204163349.7b8479b3@from-theboss.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20121205105244.4176202e@netsolutionsindia.com>

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 16:33:49 -0800, sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:

> I have to double click on [...] to see what they are replying to:

Go to the menu: View -> Quotes

And de-select which-ever option is selected (I am guessing "Collapse
All" is selected). You can de-select the marked option by simply
clicking on the option that's enabled; it will toggle the status.

[a]



From c-blair at Illinois.edu  Wed Dec  5 07:28:34 2012
From: c-blair at Illinois.edu (Charles Blair)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 00:28:34 -0600
Subject: [Users] install "incomplete mailbox" failure (continued)
Message-ID: <20121205002834.515d92e6@Charlie.hsd1.il.comcast.net.>

   This is a continuation of my attempts to install
claws-mail.  I'm sorry that I don't know how to
post follow-ups within a single thread (I'm receiving
digests, if that makes a difference).  Thanks to
anyone who has the patience to read the detailed
account below.

   I have been using claws-mail 3.7.6 on another
machine.  I have downloaded a debian linux package for
3.8.1 to my current machine, and am trying to use
the same configuration as before.  The new machine
has a dual-boot with Windows Vista, and claws-mail
is working in Windows using this configuration.

   I usually log into a linux terminal as "ceblair,"
and then issue an "su" command, so I think the
important stuff is happening in the /root directory.

   When I type "claws-mail" the first time, the "Welcome
to Claws Mail" appears, but there are also messages

failed to open directory: /usr/etc/skel/.claws-mail

/root/.claws-mail/clawsrc: No such file or directory

   
   I am using my university's server (imap.illinois.edu)
for incoming mail, but am using a residential network
supplied by comcast for outgoing mail (this has worked
on previous installs).  The "About You" window already
has an address including "comcast," which I have changed
to the correct address.

  Again, the "Receiving Mail" display begins by showing
a pop server with an address including "comcast." I
change this to imap.illinois.edu.  I am using SSL but
not STARTLS.  I left the "IMAP server directory" blank.

   The Sending mail display has "smtp.hsd1.il.comcast.net"
filled in.  I have replaced this, to be consistent with
my other computer, with "smtp.comcast.net".  Again, SSL
is used, but not STARTLS.

   I now have "Configuration Finished" and click "save".

   This displays the "detected configured mailbox, but
it is incomplete" message.  At the same time, the terminal
shows

  Can't create INBOX, Trash, Queue, Sent, or Drafts

  /root/.claws-mail/clawsrc: fopen: No such file or directory.


  When I close the "incomplete" message, the terminal shows

  While connecting to session manger: specified authentication
  not supported.

  If I click on the folder and click "Rebuild folder tree"
then click on "continue?" nothing seems to happen.

  If I then go to "Tools" and "Network Log," there is
the one line

   Network Manager: network is offline.

  However, my browser is working, as is my download of the
.deb package for claws-mail.

   There is a folder /root/.claws-mail/imapcache, but it
is empty.


From ricardo at mones.org  Wed Dec  5 10:07:45 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 10:07:45 +0100
Subject: [Users] install "incomplete mailbox" failure (continued)
In-Reply-To: <50bedab8.0387e50a.7733.ffffe290SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
References: <50bedab8.0387e50a.7733.ffffe290SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <20121205090745.GA10614@trasgu>

On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 12:28:34AM -0600, Charles Blair wrote:
>    This is a continuation of my attempts to install
> claws-mail.  I'm sorry that I don't know how to
> post follow-ups within a single thread (I'm receiving
> digests, if that makes a difference).  Thanks to
> anyone who has the patience to read the detailed
> account below.

  Have you tried to select the text you want to reply and hit reply
button?
 
>    I have been using claws-mail 3.7.6 on another
> machine.  I have downloaded a debian linux package for
> 3.8.1 to my current machine, and am trying to use
> the same configuration as before.  The new machine
> has a dual-boot with Windows Vista, and claws-mail
> is working in Windows using this configuration.
> 
>    I usually log into a linux terminal as "ceblair,"
> and then issue an "su" command, so I think the
> important stuff is happening in the /root directory.

  Why do you do that!? If you need to read root mail forward
it to a user account and you're done. Claws Mail can run
perfectly in a user account.

>    When I type "claws-mail" the first time, the "Welcome
> to Claws Mail" appears, but there are also messages
> 
> failed to open directory: /usr/etc/skel/.claws-mail
> 
> /root/.claws-mail/clawsrc: No such file or directory

  This is normal, it's first run. Don't worry about that.

>    I am using my university's server (imap.illinois.edu)
> for incoming mail, but am using a residential network
> supplied by comcast for outgoing mail (this has worked
> on previous installs).  The "About You" window already
> has an address including "comcast," which I have changed
> to the correct address.
> 
>   Again, the "Receiving Mail" display begins by showing
> a pop server with an address including "comcast." I
> change this to imap.illinois.edu.  I am using SSL but
> not STARTLS.  I left the "IMAP server directory" blank.

  Is it using standard ports? Otherwise you should add :nnn after
server name, where nnn is the port number the IMAP server uses.
  Same applies for outgoing server, in case it's needed.

[...]
>   If I click on the folder and click "Rebuild folder tree"
> then click on "continue?" nothing seems to happen.
> 
>   If I then go to "Tools" and "Network Log," there is
> the one line
> 
>    Network Manager: network is offline.
 
  Yep, that's the probable cause of all of what you're describing. NM was
not very reliable, and in fact I stopped to use it completely.
  See http://bugs.debian.org/661334 for example.

  Click the little blue icon on the left of the account selector at the
bottom right corner of the screen to put it online, then try rebuilding
folder tree.

  regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
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  comparisons from figures, and victories from comparisons. 
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From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Wed Dec  5 15:33:01 2012
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 07:33:01 -0700
Subject: [Users] install "incomplete mailbox" failure (continued)
In-Reply-To: <20121205002834.515d92e6@Charlie.hsd1.il.comcast.net.>
References: <20121205002834.515d92e6@Charlie.hsd1.il.comcast.net.>
Message-ID: <20121205073301.1771a66e@yendi.localdomain>

On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 00:28:34 -0600
Charles Blair <c-blair at Illinois.edu> wrote:

> I'm sorry that I don't know how to
> post follow-ups within a single thread (I'm receiving
> digests, if that makes a difference).

Yes, it does make a difference. Digests are for archivists and others
who passively accumulate the traffic.

You have already noted one problem with digests. Another is that the
digests go out with their own subject lines, not those of the actual
messages.

Most email has an identifier. Replies will usually have that identifier
in the reply email, so that thread-enabled mail readers can easily
thread discussions. Digests do not contain those identifiers, so your
traffic will break threads.

I recommend that you change your subscription to non-digest mode.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec  5 16:19:55 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2012 16:19:55 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2831] New: Trash failed
Message-ID: <bug-2831-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2831

           Summary: Trash failed
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: CVS
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message List
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: pf at pfortin.com


Never saw anything like this before...  3.9.0cvs17 (in case it matters, I was
compiling cvs40 at the time; installation not yet started)

Selected a message and clicked Trash. Message changed color to blue and list
selector moved to next message. Message to be trashed had a white-on-blue "<"
icon which apparently means Move Pending or somesuch.
Selecting that message gave what is in the attached screenshot. Clicked on
Network Log and nothing related to this was in the log. I only use POP/SMTP
(never used IMAP), so the "network" issue makes no sense to me.

More strangeness...  just switched back to mail desktop and CM is back to what
it looked like before I hit Trash -- like none of this ever happened. The blue
is gone, as is the icon. and the original message contents are visible again. 
Only desktop switching occurred...

Hit Trash again and it went to trash as initially expected....

[cue Twilight Zone music...]

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec  5 16:24:38 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2012 16:24:38 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2831] Trash failed
In-Reply-To: <bug-2831-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2831-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121205152438.6FA71854AD@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2831





--- Comment #1 from Pierre Fortin  2012-12-05 16:24:37 ---
Created an attachment (id=1201)
 --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1201)
screen shot of Trash failing

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec  5 17:50:45 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2012 17:50:45 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2831] Trash failed
In-Reply-To: <bug-2831-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2831-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121205165045.E4540854AD@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2831


Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |INVALID




--- Comment #2 from Paul  2012-12-05 17:50:45 ---
looks like a temporary network problem to me, I see no bug here

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec  5 18:32:25 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2012 18:32:25 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2477] gtkhtml2 viewer plugin causes Claws-Mail to
 crash when viewing a MH folder I created
In-Reply-To: <bug-2477-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2477-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121205173225.64F20854C8@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2477


Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|REOPENED                    |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |FIXED




--- Comment #5 from Ricardo Mones  2012-12-05 18:32:24 ---
Closing, as this seems to be fixed since 3.8.0.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec  5 18:40:49 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed,  5 Dec 2012 18:40:49 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2831] Trash failed
In-Reply-To: <bug-2831-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2831





--- Comment #3 from Pierre Fortin  2012-12-05 18:40:49 ---
Now you've got my curiosity...  What network activity is related to moving a
message to Trash in a local-only MH setup?  Then, I'm really puzzled how Move
Pending was automatically undone...  :)

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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Wed Dec  5 20:56:08 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 19:56:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] Crash in cvs40, backtrace etc appended
Message-ID: <20121205195608.100753b5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>

Not sure what happened, Claws was sat in the background and crashed
while I was at work:


[New LWP 2126]
[New LWP 3611]
[New LWP 2296]
[New LWP 2678]
[New LWP 3613]
[New LWP 3612]
[New LWP 3615]
[New LWP 2593]
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
Using host libthread_db library "/lib64/libthread_db.so.1".
warning: "/var/cache/abrt-di/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib64/libicudata.so.48.1.1.debug": separate debug info file has no debug info
Core was generated by `claws-mail --select #imap/Brian/INBOX'.
Program terminated with signal 6, Aborted.
#0  0x0000003c3ca35935 in __GI_raise (sig=sig at entry=6) at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/raise.c:64
64	  return INLINE_SYSCALL (tgkill, 3, pid, selftid, sig);

Thread 8 (Thread 0x7fb81d6a8700 (LWP 2593)):
#0  0x0000003c3cae8bdf in __GI___poll (fds=<optimized out>, nfds=<optimized out>, timeout=<optimized out>) at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c:87
        resultvar = <optimized out>
        oldtype = 0
        result = <optimized out>
#1  0x0000003c3f647af4 in g_main_context_poll (n_fds=3, fds=0x7fb8100010c0, timeout=-1, context=0x7fb818007700, priority=<optimized out>) at gmain.c:3440
        poll_func = 0x3c3f655910 <g_poll>
#2  g_main_context_iterate (context=0x7fb818007700, block=block at entry=1, dispatch=dispatch at entry=1, self=<optimized out>) at gmain.c:3141
        max_priority = 2147483647
        timeout = -1
        some_ready = <optimized out>
        nfds = 3
        allocated_nfds = <optimized out>
        fds = 0x7fb8100010c0
#3  0x0000003c3f647f52 in g_main_loop_run (loop=0x7fb8180076b0) at gmain.c:3340
        __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "g_main_loop_run"
#4  0x0000003c44ac94d6 in gdbus_shared_thread_func (user_data=0x7fb8180076d0) at gdbusprivate.c:277
        data = 0x7fb8180076d0
#5  0x0000003c3f66a495 in g_thread_proxy (data=0x7fb818006a30) at gthread.c:801
        thread = 0x7fb818006a30
#6  0x0000003c3d207d14 in start_thread (arg=0x7fb81d6a8700) at pthread_create.c:309
        __res = <optimized out>
        pd = 0x7fb81d6a8700
        now = <optimized out>
        unwind_buf = {cancel_jmp_buf = {{jmp_buf = {140428744230656, 5590689974997831382, 0, 258708996096, 140428744230656, 140428653393616, -5555713242968011050, 5615536465086467798}, mask_was_saved = 0}}, priv = {pad = {0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0}, data = {prev = 0x0, cleanup = 0x0, canceltype = 0}}}
        not_first_call = 0
        pagesize_m1 = <optimized out>
        sp = <optimized out>
        freesize = <optimized out>
#7  0x0000003c3caf168d in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:115
No locals.

Thread 7 (Thread 0x7fb7cdff9700 (LWP 3615)):
#0  pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_timedwait.S:218
No locals.
#1  0x00007fb81c398f1c in WTF::ThreadCondition::timedWait (this=0x7fb8241714b8, mutex=..., absoluteTime=<optimized out>) at Source/JavaScriptCore/wtf/ThreadingPthreads.cpp:415
        timeSeconds = <optimized out>
        timeNanoseconds = <optimized out>
        targetTime = {tv_sec = 1354697750, tv_nsec = 223870038}
#2  0x00007fb81c201602 in JSC::Heap::waitForRelativeTime (this=0x7fb824170ac8, relative=<optimized out>) at Source/JavaScriptCore/heap/Heap.cpp:407
No locals.
#3  0x00007fb81c201665 in JSC::Heap::blockFreeingThreadMain (this=0x7fb824170ac8) at Source/JavaScriptCore/heap/Heap.cpp:420
        currentNumberOfFreeBlocks = <optimized out>
        desiredNumberOfFreeBlocks = <optimized out>
#4  0x00007fb81c39887e in WTF::wtfThreadEntryPoint (param=0xdadde0) at Source/JavaScriptCore/wtf/ThreadingPthreads.cpp:162
No locals.
#5  0x0000003c3d207d14 in start_thread (arg=0x7fb7cdff9700) at pthread_create.c:309
        __res = <optimized out>
        pd = 0x7fb7cdff9700
        now = <optimized out>
        unwind_buf = {cancel_jmp_buf = {{jmp_buf = {140427411822336, 5590689974997831382, 0, 258708996096, 140427411822336, 140428856203000, -5550258734896951594, 5615536465086467798}, mask_was_saved = 0}}, priv = {pad = {0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0}, data = {prev = 0x0, cleanup = 0x0, canceltype = 0}}}
        not_first_call = 0
        pagesize_m1 = <optimized out>
        sp = <optimized out>
        freesize = <optimized out>
#6  0x0000003c3caf168d in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:115
No locals.

Thread 6 (Thread 0x7fb7cf7fc700 (LWP 3612)):
#0  pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:166
No locals.
#1  0x00007fb816d9b6eb in WebCore::IconDatabase::syncThreadMainLoop (this=0x7fb8240a3000) at Source/WebCore/loader/icon/IconDatabase.cpp:1449
        didAnyWork = <optimized out>
        shouldReenableSuddenTermination = false
#2  0x00007fb816d9b9dd in WebCore::IconDatabase::iconDatabaseSyncThread (this=0x7fb8240a3000) at Source/WebCore/loader/icon/IconDatabase.cpp:1061
        journalFilename = {m_impl = {m_ptr = 0x7fb8240b0c98}}
#3  0x00007fb81c39887e in WTF::wtfThreadEntryPoint (param=0x3269d80) at Source/JavaScriptCore/wtf/ThreadingPthreads.cpp:162
No locals.
#4  0x0000003c3d207d14 in start_thread (arg=0x7fb7cf7fc700) at pthread_create.c:309
        __res = <optimized out>
        pd = 0x7fb7cf7fc700
        now = <optimized out>
        unwind_buf = {cancel_jmp_buf = {{jmp_buf = {140427437000448, 5590689974997831382, 0, 258708996096, 140427437000448, 24, -5550264232991961386, 5615536465086467798}, mask_was_saved = 0}}, priv = {pad = {0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0}, data = {prev = 0x0, cleanup = 0x0, canceltype = 0}}}
        not_first_call = 0
        pagesize_m1 = <optimized out>
        sp = <optimized out>
        freesize = <optimized out>
#5  0x0000003c3caf168d in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:115
No locals.

Thread 5 (Thread 0x7fb7ceffb700 (LWP 3613)):
#0  0x0000003c3cae8bdf in __GI___poll (fds=<optimized out>, nfds=<optimized out>, timeout=<optimized out>) at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c:87
        resultvar = <optimized out>
        oldtype = 0
        result = <optimized out>
#1  0x0000003c3f647af4 in g_main_context_poll (n_fds=1, fds=0x7fb7c00010e0, timeout=-1, context=0x3e55c00, priority=<optimized out>) at gmain.c:3440
        poll_func = 0x3c3f655910 <g_poll>
#2  g_main_context_iterate (context=0x3e55c00, block=block at entry=1, dispatch=dispatch at entry=1, self=<optimized out>) at gmain.c:3141
        max_priority = 2147483647
        timeout = -1
        some_ready = <optimized out>
        nfds = 1
        allocated_nfds = <optimized out>
        fds = 0x7fb7c00010e0
#3  0x0000003c3f647f52 in g_main_loop_run (loop=0x7fb7c00010c0) at gmain.c:3340
        __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "g_main_loop_run"
#4  0x00007fb81423ab0b in dconf_context_thread (data=0x3e55c00) at dconfcontext.c:11
        context = 0x3e55c00
        loop = <optimized out>
        __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "dconf_context_thread"
#5  0x0000003c3f66a495 in g_thread_proxy (data=0x3acb590) at gthread.c:801
        thread = 0x3acb590
#6  0x0000003c3d207d14 in start_thread (arg=0x7fb7ceffb700) at pthread_create.c:309
        __res = <optimized out>
        pd = 0x7fb7ceffb700
        now = <optimized out>
        unwind_buf = {cancel_jmp_buf = {{jmp_buf = {140427428607744, 5590689974997831382, 0, 258708996096, 140427428607744, 65362944, -5550260934993948970, 5615536465086467798}, mask_was_saved = 0}}, priv = {pad = {0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0}, data = {prev = 0x0, cleanup = 0x0, canceltype = 0}}}
        not_first_call = 0
        pagesize_m1 = <optimized out>
        sp = <optimized out>
        freesize = <optimized out>
#7  0x0000003c3caf168d in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:115
No locals.

Thread 4 (Thread 0x7fb81dea9700 (LWP 2678)):
#0  pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:166
No locals.
#1  0x0000003c47631733 in mailsem_internal_wait (s=0x39808e0) at mailsem.c:121
        r = <optimized out>
#2  0x0000003c476318e8 in mailsem_down (sem=<optimized out>) at mailsem.c:321
No locals.
#3  0x00000000005e3de9 in thread_run (data=0x3a1fd90) at etpan-thread-manager.c:331
        do_quit = <optimized out>
        op = <optimized out>
        thread = 0x3a1fd90
        r = <optimized out>
#4  0x0000003c3d207d14 in start_thread (arg=0x7fb81dea9700) at pthread_create.c:309
        __res = <optimized out>
        pd = 0x7fb81dea9700
        now = <optimized out>
        unwind_buf = {cancel_jmp_buf = {{jmp_buf = {140428752623360, 5590689974997831382, 0, 49884384, 140428752623360, 21, -5555712149361963306, 5615536465086467798}, mask_was_saved = 0}}, priv = {pad = {0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0}, data = {prev = 0x0, cleanup = 0x0, canceltype = 0}}}
        not_first_call = 0
        pagesize_m1 = <optimized out>
        sp = <optimized out>
        freesize = <optimized out>
#5  0x0000003c3caf168d in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:115
No locals.

Thread 3 (Thread 0x7fb8253e5700 (LWP 2296)):
#0  pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:166
No locals.
#1  0x0000003c47631733 in mailsem_internal_wait (s=0x1202190) at mailsem.c:121
        r = <optimized out>
#2  0x0000003c476318e8 in mailsem_down (sem=<optimized out>) at mailsem.c:321
No locals.
#3  0x00000000005e3de9 in thread_run (data=0x1205400) at etpan-thread-manager.c:331
        do_quit = <optimized out>
        op = <optimized out>
        thread = 0x1205400
        r = <optimized out>
#4  0x0000003c3d207d14 in start_thread (arg=0x7fb8253e5700) at pthread_create.c:309
        __res = <optimized out>
        pd = 0x7fb8253e5700
        now = <optimized out>
        unwind_buf = {cancel_jmp_buf = {{jmp_buf = {140428875552512, 5590689974997831382, 0, 258708996096, 140428875552512, 18895872, -5555660087915884842, 5615536465086467798}, mask_was_saved = 0}}, priv = {pad = {0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0}, data = {prev = 0x0, cleanup = 0x0, canceltype = 0}}}
        not_first_call = 0
        pagesize_m1 = <optimized out>
        sp = <optimized out>
        freesize = <optimized out>
#5  0x0000003c3caf168d in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:115
No locals.

Thread 2 (Thread 0x7fb80ffff700 (LWP 3611)):
#0  pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:166
No locals.
#1  0x00007fb81c3795e7 in WTF::TCMalloc_PageHeap::scavengerThread (this=0x7fb81c655ba0) at Source/JavaScriptCore/wtf/FastMalloc.cpp:2551
No locals.
#2  0x00007fb81c379619 in WTF::TCMalloc_PageHeap::runScavengerThread (context=<optimized out>) at Source/JavaScriptCore/wtf/FastMalloc.cpp:1628
No locals.
#3  0x0000003c3d207d14 in start_thread (arg=0x7fb80ffff700) at pthread_create.c:309
        __res = <optimized out>
        pd = 0x7fb80ffff700
        now = <optimized out>
        unwind_buf = {cancel_jmp_buf = {{jmp_buf = {140428519143168, 5590689974997831382, 0, 258708996096, 140428519143168, 32768, -5555751893915578666, 5615536465086467798}, mask_was_saved = 0}}, priv = {pad = {0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0}, data = {prev = 0x0, cleanup = 0x0, canceltype = 0}}}
        not_first_call = 0
        pagesize_m1 = <optimized out>
        sp = <optimized out>
        freesize = <optimized out>
#4  0x0000003c3caf168d in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:115
No locals.

Thread 1 (Thread 0x7fb82eaa1a00 (LWP 2126)):
#0  0x0000003c3ca35935 in __GI_raise (sig=sig at entry=6) at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/raise.c:64
        resultvar = 0
        pid = 2126
        selftid = 2126
#1  0x0000003c3ca370e8 in __GI_abort () at abort.c:91
        save_stage = 2
        act = {__sigaction_handler = {sa_handler = 0x7fff78dea23a, sa_sigaction = 0x7fff78dea23a}, sa_mask = {__val = {6, 258716693859, 2, 140735221244494, 2, 258716687172, 1, 258716693855, 3, 140735221244470, 10, 258716693859, 2, 140735221245280, 17, 140735221247040}}, sa_flags = 83, sa_restorer = 0x7}
        sigs = {__val = {32, 0 <repeats 15 times>}}
#2  0x0000003c3ca74e8b in __libc_message (do_abort=do_abort at entry=2, fmt=fmt at entry=0x3c3cb78928 "*** glibc detected *** %s: %s: 0x%s ***\n") at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/libc_fatal.c:198
        ap = {{gp_offset = 40, fp_offset = 48, overflow_arg_area = 0x7fff78deac50, reg_save_area = 0x7fff78deab60}}
        ap_copy = {{gp_offset = 16, fp_offset = 48, overflow_arg_area = 0x7fff78deac50, reg_save_area = 0x7fff78deab60}}
        fd = 2
        on_2 = <optimized out>
        list = <optimized out>
        nlist = <optimized out>
        cp = <optimized out>
        written = <optimized out>
#3  0x0000003c3ca7c00e in malloc_printerr (ptr=0x13f62f0, str=0x3c3cb767b5 "free(): invalid pointer", action=3) at malloc.c:5027
        buf = "00000000013f62f0"
        cp = <optimized out>
#4  _int_free (av=0x3c3cdb0720, p=0x13f62e0, have_lock=0) at malloc.c:3948
        size = <optimized out>
        fb = <optimized out>
        nextchunk = <optimized out>
        nextsize = <optimized out>
        nextinuse = <optimized out>
        prevsize = <optimized out>
        bck = <optimized out>
        fwd = <optimized out>
        errstr = <optimized out>
        locked = <optimized out>
#5  0x0000003c5fc31cd9 in gnutls_certificate_free_keys (sc=sc at entry=0x3c55bf0) at gnutls_cert.c:74
        i = <optimized out>
        j = <optimized out>
#6  0x0000003c5fc31d59 in gnutls_certificate_free_credentials (sc=0x3c55bf0) at gnutls_cert.c:280
No locals.
#7  0x00000000005d3869 in ssl_done_socket (sockinfo=sockinfo at entry=0x13f62f0) at ssl.c:348
No locals.
#8  0x00000000005d2e9b in sock_close (sock=0x13f62f0) at socket.c:1628
        ret = <optimized out>
#9  0x00000000005cea7a in session_close (session=session at entry=0x3c55c00) at session.c:355
No locals.
#10 0x00000000005cf8c4 in session_destroy (session=session at entry=0x3c55c00) at session.c:222
No locals.
#11 0x00000000004e1f54 in nntp_ping (data=0x3c55c00) at news.c:304
No locals.
#12 nntp_ping (data=0x3c55c00, data at entry=<error reading variable: value has been optimized out>) at news.c:285
        session = 0x3c55c00
        news_session = 0x3c55c00
        r = <optimized out>
        lt = {tm_sec = 2027867632, tm_min = 32767, tm_hour = 2027944092, tm_mday = 32767, tm_mon = 2027867664, tm_year = 32767, tm_wday = 1, tm_yday = 0, tm_isdst = 15037232, tm_gmtoff = 15037232, tm_zone = 0xe57330 "\200T\345"}
#13 0x0000003c3f6483bb in g_timeout_dispatch (source=source at entry=0x3a575d0, callback=<optimized out>, user_data=<optimized out>) at gmain.c:3882
        timeout_source = <optimized out>
        again = <optimized out>
#14 0x0000003c3f647825 in g_main_dispatch (context=0xe57330) at gmain.c:2539
        dispatch = 0x3c3f6483a0 <g_timeout_dispatch>
        was_in_call = 0
        user_data = 0x3c55c00
        callback = 0x4e1e90 <nntp_ping>
        cb_funcs = 0x3c3f91e980
        cb_data = 0x33a6bb0
        current_source_link = {data = 0x3a575d0, next = 0x0}
        need_destroy = <optimized out>
        source = 0x3a575d0
        current = 0x1205370
        i = <optimized out>
#15 g_main_context_dispatch (context=context at entry=0xe57330) at gmain.c:3075
No locals.
#16 0x0000003c3f647b58 in g_main_context_iterate (context=0xe57330, block=block at entry=1, dispatch=dispatch at entry=1, self=<optimized out>) at gmain.c:3146
        max_priority = 2147483647
        timeout = 7111
        some_ready = 1
        nfds = <optimized out>
        allocated_nfds = <optimized out>
        fds = 0x30b7bd0
#17 0x0000003c3f647f52 in g_main_loop_run (loop=0xe06cd0) at gmain.c:3340
        __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "g_main_loop_run"
#18 0x0000003c54f4ab27 in IA__gtk_main () at gtkmain.c:1257
        tmp_list = 0x0
        functions = 0x0
        init = <optimized out>
        loop = 0xe06cd0
#19 0x000000000044851a in main (argc=3, argv=0x7fff78ded448) at main.c:1710
        connection = 0xe66bd8
        error = 0x0
        nm_proxy = 0xe5b000 [DBusGProxy]
        userrc = <optimized out>
        mainwin = 0xeb9160
        folderview = 0x1010d70
        icon = 0xea3450 [GdkPixbuf]
        crash_file_present = <optimized out>
        num_folder_class = <optimized out>
        asked_for_migration = <optimized out>
        start_done = <optimized out>
        plug_list = 0x0
        never_ran = <optimized out>
        mainwin_shown = <optimized out>
        start = {tv_sec = 1354656261, tv_usec = 647677}
        end = {tv_sec = 1354656328, tv_usec = 738647}
        diff = {tv_sec = 67, tv_usec = 90970}
        timing_name = 0x650ed5 "startup"
        __FUNCTION__ = "main"
From                To                  Syms Read   Shared Object Library
0x0000003c3fe00680  0x0000003c3fe007fc  Yes         /lib64/libgthread-2.0.so.0
0x0000003c4f400dc0  0x0000003c4f405cac  Yes         /lib64/libcrypt.so.1
0x0000003c53402ea0  0x0000003c534080b8  Yes         /lib64/libenchant.so.1
0x0000003c442010f0  0x0000003c44201fd8  Yes         /lib64/libgmodule-2.0.so.0
0x0000003c54e69920  0x0000003c5510b438  Yes         /lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
0x0000003c5461e7c0  0x0000003c546810e4  Yes         /lib64/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
0x0000003c48e09b30  0x0000003c48e15c04  Yes         /lib64/libatk-1.0.so.0
0x0000003c44a2eee0  0x0000003c44aeaaf4  Yes         /lib64/libgio-2.0.so.0
0x0000003c48607600  0x0000003c48621bfc  Yes         /lib64/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0
0x0000003c49604910  0x0000003c49609358  Yes         /lib64/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0
0x0000003c47a06750  0x0000003c47a19b50  Yes         /lib64/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0
0x0000003c47e0b2f0  0x0000003c47e8215c  Yes         /lib64/libcairo.so.2
0x0000003c48a0eeb0  0x0000003c48a2d490  Yes         /lib64/libpango-1.0.so.0
0x0000003c41e0cbc0  0x0000003c41e77870  Yes         /usr/lib64/freetype-freeworld/libfreetype.so.6
0x0000003c42205ef0  0x0000003c4221f6fc  Yes         /lib64/libfontconfig.so.1
0x0000003c4b006840  0x0000003c4b0243f0  Yes         /lib64/libgpgme.so.11
0x0000003c57e040d0  0x0000003c57e11934  Yes         /lib64/libnsl.so.1
0x0000003c5d4036a0  0x0000003c5d40ab14  Yes         /lib64/liblber-2.4.so.2
0x0000003c5dc0f060  0x0000003c5dc3d978  Yes         /lib64/libldap-2.4.so.2
0x0000003c45201130  0x0000003c452026b8  Yes         /lib64/libcompface.so.1
0x0000003c4e8095c0  0x0000003c4e82fb8c  Yes         /lib64/libpisock.so.9
0x0000003c43a01be0  0x0000003c43a05d18  Yes         /lib64/libSM.so.6
0x0000003c43604eb0  0x0000003c43612e1c  Yes         /lib64/libICE.so.6
0x0000003c4c8031b0  0x0000003c4c80680c  Yes         /lib64/libstartup-notification-1.so.0
0x0000003c4ce0a540  0x0000003c4ce1c594  Yes         /lib64/libdbus-glib-1.so.2
0x0000003c43e07890  0x0000003c43e30924  Yes         /lib64/libdbus-1.so.3
0x0000003c3d205790  0x0000003c3d210494  Yes         /lib64/libpthread.so.0
0x0000003c3da02260  0x0000003c3da0554c  Yes         /lib64/librt.so.1
0x0000003c4020a910  0x0000003c40237dbc  Yes         /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
0x0000003c3f619d00  0x0000003c3f6ac9cc  Yes         /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
0x0000003c3ce055f0  0x0000003c3ce6ca0c  Yes         /lib64/libm.so.6
0x0000003c4762a890  0x0000003c476949fc  Yes         /lib64/libetpan.so.16
0x0000003c61c09980  0x0000003c61c4c278  Yes         /lib64/libcurl.so.4
0x0000003c40e03dd0  0x0000003c40e1cccc  Yes         /lib64/libexpat.so.1
0x0000003c5fc189b0  0x0000003c5fc92f2c  Yes         /lib64/libgnutls.so.26
0x0000003c58207200  0x0000003c58252b48  Yes         /lib64/libgcrypt.so.11
0x0000003c55a00960  0x0000003c55a00ed8  Yes         /lib64/libgpg-error.so.0
0x0000003c3de01f50  0x0000003c3de0e718  Yes         /lib64/libz.so.1
0x0000003c4a823ae0  0x0000003c4a945db8  Yes         /lib64/libdb-4.8.so
0x0000003c5ac04840  0x0000003c5ac14504  Yes         /lib64/libsasl2.so.2
0x0000003c3e6029d0  0x0000003c3e612138  Yes         /lib64/libgcc_s.so.1
0x0000003c3ca1ef60  0x0000003c3cb5f7a0  Yes         /lib64/libc.so.6
0x0000003c4ec03520  0x0000003c4ec424f8  Yes         /lib64/libfreebl3.so
0x0000003c3d600ea0  0x0000003c3d6019e0  Yes         /lib64/libdl.so.2
0x0000003c3f21dea0  0x0000003c3f2a4260  Yes         /lib64/libX11.so.6
0x0000003c41a014f0  0x0000003c41a03cf8  Yes         /lib64/libXfixes.so.3
0x0000003c3fa03700  0x0000003c3fa0d7d0  Yes         /lib64/libXext.so.6
0x0000003c42601a70  0x0000003c426079e0  Yes         /lib64/libXrender.so.1
0x0000003c42e00b00  0x0000003c42e01438  Yes         /lib64/libXinerama.so.1
0x0000003c42a02130  0x0000003c42a0bfb4  Yes         /lib64/libXi.so.6
0x0000003c43201830  0x0000003c43205f34  Yes         /lib64/libXrandr.so.2
0x0000003c44602a80  0x0000003c446076dc  Yes         /lib64/libXcursor.so.1
0x0000003c49200c30  0x0000003c49201774  Yes         /lib64/libXcomposite.so.1
0x0000003c46e00b90  0x0000003c46e0159c  Yes         /lib64/libXdamage.so.1
0x0000003c40601950  0x0000003c406060ec  Yes         /lib64/libffi.so.5
0x0000003c3e205fc0  0x0000003c3e216768  Yes         /lib64/libselinux.so.1
0x0000003c3ea039b0  0x0000003c3ea11e1c  Yes         /lib64/libresolv.so.2
0x0000003c41204fa0  0x0000003c41220ae0  Yes         /lib64/libpng15.so.15
0x0000003c48208d80  0x0000003c48272eec  Yes         /lib64/libpixman-1.so.0
0x0000003c59c030b0  0x0000003c59c0b520  Yes         /lib64/libassuan.so.0
0x0000003c3c200b20  0x0000003c3c21a2e9  Yes         /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
0x0000003c5720a290  0x0000003c5722fb50  Yes         /lib64/libssl3.so
0x0000003c57a09ca0  0x0000003c57a22210  Yes         /lib64/libsmime3.so
0x0000003c56218ac0  0x0000003c562fba04  Yes         /lib64/libnss3.so
0x0000003c55e0aa30  0x0000003c55e15af4  Yes         /lib64/libnssutil3.so
0x0000003c56a00fb0  0x0000003c56a01ef8  Yes         /lib64/libplds4.so
0x0000003c556014d0  0x0000003c55602bd4  Yes         /lib64/libplc4.so
0x0000003c56e0d250  0x0000003c56e2cc10  Yes         /lib64/libnspr4.so
0x0000003c5e001710  0x0000003c5e003284  Yes         /lib64/libusb-0.1.so.4
0x0000003c5d8073c0  0x0000003c5d812c68  Yes         /lib64/libbluetooth.so.3
0x0000003c416016d0  0x0000003c41602d48  Yes         /lib64/libuuid.so.1
0x0000003c4b4025f0  0x0000003c4b4033a4  Yes         /lib64/libxcb-util.so.0
0x0000003c4b8005c0  0x0000003c4b8006dc  Yes         /lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1
0x0000003c3ee099c0  0x0000003c3ee158d8  Yes         /lib64/libxcb.so.1
0x0000003c40a5bb50  0x0000003c40ac105b  Yes         /lib64/libstdc++.so.6
0x0000003c5c802fe0  0x0000003c5c8074d8  Yes         /lib64/libidn.so.11
0x0000003c4620ad60  0x0000003c46238424  Yes         /lib64/libgssapi_krb5.so.2
0x0000003c4661b640  0x0000003c46693340  Yes         /lib64/libkrb5.so.3
0x0000003c45e04490  0x0000003c45e1c92c  Yes         /lib64/libk5crypto.so.3
0x0000003c45601520  0x0000003c45602114  Yes         /lib64/libcom_err.so.2
0x0000003c620053f0  0x0000003c6201ec08  Yes         /lib64/libssh2.so.1
0x0000003c5f001ce0  0x0000003c5f00c9e8  Yes         /lib64/libtasn1.so.3
0x0000003c5e802cd0  0x0000003c5e80ba6c  Yes         /lib64/libp11-kit.so.0
0x0000003c5a802a00  0x0000003c5a80a588  Yes         /lib64/libusb-1.0.so.0
0x0000003c3c600e80  0x0000003c3c601bb0  Yes         /lib64/libXau.so.6
0x0000003c46a02a60  0x0000003c46a07eac  Yes         /lib64/libkrb5support.so.0
0x0000003c45a01120  0x0000003c45a01ac4  Yes         /lib64/libkeyutils.so.1
0x0000003c47214780  0x0000003c47246c94  Yes         /lib64/libssl.so.10
0x0000003c44e5ca00  0x0000003c44f24528  Yes         /lib64/libcrypto.so.10
0x00007fb82e88fd20  0x00007fb82e899cbc  Yes         /usr/lib64/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so
0x00007fb8282541b0  0x00007fb82825b67c  Yes         /lib64/libnss_files.so.2
0x00007fb82804f540  0x00007fb82804ff50  Yes         /usr/lib64/gconv/ISO8859-1.so
0x00007fb827df4b10  0x00007fb827e156d8  Yes         /usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libclearlooks.so
0x00007fb827bef6a0  0x00007fb827bef7b4  Yes         /usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/modules/libpk-gtk-module.so
0x00007fb8279ecd00  0x00007fb8279ed228  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/newmail.so
0x00007fb8277e6500  0x00007fb8277e785c  Yes         /usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-xpm.so
0x00007fb827487c10  0x00007fb827489b68  Yes         /usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/im-ibus.so
0x00007fb8271f0010  0x00007fb82720f820  Yes         /lib64/libibus-1.0.so.5
0x00007fb826fc1930  0x00007fb826fd8f98  Yes         /usr/lib64/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so
0x00007fb826daa310  0x00007fb826db3c9c  Yes         /lib64/libgvfscommon.so.0
0x00007fb826b76ec0  0x00007fb826b961fc  Yes         /lib64/libbluray.so.1
0x0000003c57600ee0  0x0000003c57601814  Yes         /lib64/libutil.so.1
0x00007fb826845d70  0x00007fb826928744  Yes         /lib64/libxml2.so.2
0x00007fb82655db10  0x00007fb826565514  Yes         /usr/lib64/sasl2/libdigestmd5.so
0x00007fb826357220  0x00007fb826359624  Yes         /usr/lib64/sasl2/libcrammd5.so
0x00007fb82614f960  0x00007fb826153b44  Yes         /usr/lib64/sasl2/libgssapiv2.so
0x00007fb825f49480  0x00007fb825f4c088  Yes         /usr/lib64/sasl2/libsasldb.so
0x00007fb825b79e50  0x00007fb825cb4348  Yes         /lib64/libdb-5.2.so
0x00007fb825948120  0x00007fb825949d44  Yes         /usr/lib64/sasl2/libanonymous.so
0x00007fb825743120  0x00007fb825744eb4  Yes         /usr/lib64/sasl2/liblogin.so
0x00007fb82553e130  0x00007fb82553fef4  Yes         /usr/lib64/sasl2/libplain.so
0x00007fb8249e17a0  0x00007fb8249e2c8c  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/attachwarner.so
0x00007fb8247dbe80  0x00007fb8247dd2e8  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/att_remover.so
0x00007fb8245babc0  0x00007fb8245cab10  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/notification_plugin.so
0x0000003c4da02790  0x0000003c4da04cbc  Yes         /lib64/libnotify.so.4
0x00007fb8243aad40  0x00007fb8243ac200  Yes         /lib64/libcanberra-gtk.so.0
0x0000003c5f4033c0  0x0000003c5f40c31c  Yes         /lib64/libcanberra.so.0
0x0000003c5b4020b0  0x0000003c5b40614c  Yes         /lib64/libvorbisfile.so.3
0x0000003c51803810  0x0000003c5181ad6c  Yes         /lib64/libvorbis.so.0
0x0000003c51001a70  0x0000003c51004138  Yes         /lib64/libogg.so.0
0x0000003c5e402880  0x0000003c5e40c010  Yes         /lib64/libtdb.so.1
0x00007fb8241a2400  0x00007fb8241a65d4  Yes         /lib64/libltdl.so.7
0x00007fb81fdf0f10  0x00007fb81fdf7800  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/perl_plugin.so
0x00007fb81faa3a00  0x00007fb81fbb2424  Yes         /usr/lib64/perl5/CORE/libperl.so
0x00007fb81f867790  0x00007fb81f86ea9c  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/pgpcore.so
0x00007fb81f65ca20  0x00007fb81f65ebd8  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/pgpmime.so
0x00007fb81f455730  0x00007fb81f457b68  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/pgpinline.so
0x00007fb81f24dd00  0x00007fb81f250148  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/smime.so
0x00007fb81f041d70  0x00007fb81f047278  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/spamassassin.so
0x00007fb81ee38e40  0x00007fb81ee3a39c  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/spamreport.so
0x00007fb81ec1dbe0  0x00007fb81ec2452c  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/tnef_parse.so
0x00007fb81ea17a80  0x00007fb81ea188f4  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/fetchinfo_plugin.so
0x00007fb81e80cb70  0x00007fb81e8137b8  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/pdf_viewer.so
0x00007fb81e5e11c0  0x00007fb81e5f7338  Yes         /lib64/libpoppler-glib.so.8
0x0000003c50495220  0x0000003c50577300  Yes         /lib64/libpoppler.so.19
0x00007fb81e398630  0x00007fb81e3bb9fc  Yes         /lib64/liblcms.so.1
0x00007fb81e144e30  0x00007fb81e177280  Yes         /lib64/libjpeg.so.62
0x0000003c4f804c90  0x0000003c4f81a3e4  Yes         /lib64/libopenjpeg.so.3
0x00007fb81decbba0  0x00007fb81df19eb0  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/vcalendar.so
0x00007fb81cc9df30  0x00007fb81cca478c  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/archive.so
0x0000003c5240ed30  0x0000003c5246e730  Yes         /lib64/libarchive.so.12
0x0000003c4d201f50  0x0000003c4d205dc4  Yes         /lib64/libacl.so.1
0x00007fb81ca953a0  0x00007fb81ca9748c  Yes         /lib64/libattr.so.1
0x0000003c49a030b0  0x0000003c49a19320  Yes         /lib64/liblzma.so.5
0x00007fb81c8856f0  0x00007fb81c8912c0  Yes         /lib64/libbz2.so.1
0x00007fb81c67e2d0  0x00007fb81c68196c  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/fancy.so
0x00007fb81677a930  0x00007fb817825a3c  Yes         /lib64/libwebkitgtk-1.0.so.0
0x00007fb81c12c820  0x00007fb81c3bcfe4  Yes         /lib64/libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0.so.0
0x0000003c53c01b80  0x0000003c53c02ca4  Yes         /lib64/libsoup-gnome-2.4.so.1
0x0000003c514191e0  0x0000003c51450554  Yes         /lib64/libsoup-2.4.so.1
0x0000003c4c002aa0  0x0000003c4c006310  Yes         /lib64/libgailutil.so.18
0x0000003c53807e90  0x0000003c5380f17c  Yes         /lib64/libgeoclue.so.0
0x0000003c624030e0  0x0000003c6240839c  Yes         /lib64/libgstapp-0.10.so.0
0x0000003c52c09ea0  0x0000003c52c28824  Yes         /lib64/libgstaudio-0.10.so.0
0x00007fb8161c5d40  0x00007fb8161cc454  Yes         /lib64/libgstfft-0.10.so.0
0x0000003c61004f80  0x0000003c6100b044  Yes         /lib64/libgstinterfaces-0.10.so.0
0x0000003c6140a4d0  0x0000003c6141838c  Yes         /lib64/libgstpbutils-0.10.so.0
0x0000003c61805480  0x0000003c61814b40  Yes         /lib64/libgstvideo-0.10.so.0
0x0000003c6080af50  0x0000003c6083f880  Yes         /lib64/libgstbase-0.10.so.0
0x0000003c5ec24c60  0x0000003c5eca168c  Yes         /lib64/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0
0x0000003c6000aa90  0x0000003c6002f1e4  Yes         /lib64/libxslt.so.1
0x0000003c5861ade0  0x0000003c58661bb0  Yes         /lib64/libGL.so.1
0x0000003c5b00a2e0  0x0000003c5b086860  Yes         /lib64/libsqlite3.so.0
0x0000003c4e2680b0  0x0000003c4e36cba4  Yes         /lib64/libicui18n.so.48
0x0000003c4de480b0  0x0000003c4defd574  Yes         /lib64/libicuuc.so.48
0x00007fb814e55570  0x00007fb814e55670  Yes (*)     /lib64/libicudata.so.48
0x0000003c50c13170  0x0000003c50c4f28c  Yes         /lib64/libXt.so.6
0x0000003c4ac07960  0x0000003c4ac193b4  Yes         /lib64/libgnome-keyring.so.0
0x0000003c6040bed0  0x0000003c604585a8  Yes         /lib64/liborc-0.4.so.0
0x0000003c58a0e8c0  0x0000003c58a22058  Yes         /lib64/libglapi.so.0
0x0000003c58e09f70  0x0000003c58e101b8  Yes         /lib64/libxcb-glx.so.0
0x0000003c54200f60  0x0000003c542039ac  Yes         /lib64/libXxf86vm.so.1
0x0000003c56603190  0x0000003c56607fc4  Yes         /lib64/libdrm.so.2
0x00007fb814c52c00  0x00007fb814c53830  Yes         /lib64/libnss_mdns4_minimal.so.2
0x00007fb814a4c0d0  0x00007fb814a4f8c4  Yes         /lib64/libnss_dns.so.2
0x00007fb81443fde0  0x00007fb8144410f8  Yes         /usr/lib64/gio/modules/libgiognomeproxy.so
0x00007fb814238a30  0x00007fb81423ba18  Yes         /usr/lib64/gio/modules/libdconfsettings.so
0x00007fb81465e540  0x00007fb81465f1dc  Yes         /usr/lib64/gconv/CP1252.so
(*): Shared library is missing debugging information.
$1 = 0x7fb7cd3f8000 ""
$2 = 0x0
rax            0x0	0
rbx            0x0	0
rcx            0xffffffffffffffff	-1
rdx            0x6	6
rsi            0x84e	2126
rdi            0x84e	2126
rbp            0x7fff78deac40	0x7fff78deac40
rsp            0x7fff78dea208	0x7fff78dea208
r8             0x0	0
r9             0xd	13
r10            0x8	8
r11            0x206	518
r12            0x20	32
r13            0x7	7
r14            0x7	7
r15            0x7fff78dea3b0	140735221244848
rip            0x3c3ca35935	0x3c3ca35935 <__GI_raise+53>
eflags         0x206	[ PF IF ]
cs             0x33	51
ss             0x2b	43
ds             0x0	0
es             0x0	0
fs             0x0	0
gs             0x0	0
Dump of assembler code for function __GI_raise:
   0x0000003c3ca35900 <+0>:	mov    %fs:0x2d4,%eax
   0x0000003c3ca35908 <+8>:	mov    %fs:0x2d0,%esi
   0x0000003c3ca35910 <+16>:	test   %esi,%esi
   0x0000003c3ca35912 <+18>:	jne    0x3c3ca35940 <__GI_raise+64>
   0x0000003c3ca35914 <+20>:	mov    $0xba,%eax
   0x0000003c3ca35919 <+25>:	syscall 
   0x0000003c3ca3591b <+27>:	mov    %eax,%esi
   0x0000003c3ca3591d <+29>:	mov    %eax,%fs:0x2d0
   0x0000003c3ca35925 <+37>:	movslq %edi,%rdx
   0x0000003c3ca35928 <+40>:	movslq %esi,%rsi
   0x0000003c3ca3592b <+43>:	movslq %eax,%rdi
   0x0000003c3ca3592e <+46>:	mov    $0xea,%eax
   0x0000003c3ca35933 <+51>:	syscall 
=> 0x0000003c3ca35935 <+53>:	cmp    $0xfffffffffffff000,%rax
   0x0000003c3ca3593b <+59>:	ja     0x3c3ca3594f <__GI_raise+79>
   0x0000003c3ca3593d <+61>:	repz retq 
   0x0000003c3ca3593f <+63>:	nop
   0x0000003c3ca35940 <+64>:	test   %eax,%eax
   0x0000003c3ca35942 <+66>:	jg     0x3c3ca35925 <__GI_raise+37>
   0x0000003c3ca35944 <+68>:	test   $0x7fffffff,%eax
   0x0000003c3ca35949 <+73>:	je     0x3c3ca35960 <__GI_raise+96>
   0x0000003c3ca3594b <+75>:	neg    %eax
   0x0000003c3ca3594d <+77>:	jmp    0x3c3ca35925 <__GI_raise+37>
   0x0000003c3ca3594f <+79>:	mov    0x37a4da(%rip),%rdx        # 0x3c3cdafe30
   0x0000003c3ca35956 <+86>:	neg    %eax
   0x0000003c3ca35958 <+88>:	mov    %eax,%fs:(%rdx)
   0x0000003c3ca3595b <+91>:	or     $0xffffffffffffffff,%rax
   0x0000003c3ca3595f <+95>:	retq   
   0x0000003c3ca35960 <+96>:	mov    %esi,%eax
   0x0000003c3ca35962 <+98>:	jmp    0x3c3ca35925 <__GI_raise+37>
End of assembler dump.


-- 

Brian Morrison

                "I am not young enough to know everything"
                                                          Oscar Wilde


From colin at colino.net  Wed Dec  5 21:25:39 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 21:25:39 +0100
Subject: [Users] Crash in cvs40, backtrace etc appended
In-Reply-To: <20121205195608.100753b5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20121205195608.100753b5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20121205212539.7280f3b5@mike>

On 05 December 2012 at 19h56, Brian Morrison wrote:

Hi, 

> #6  0x0000003c5fc31d59 in gnutls_certificate_free_credentials
> (sc=0x3c55bf0) at gnutls_cert.c:280 No locals.
> #7  0x00000000005d3869 in ssl_done_socket
> (sockinfo=sockinfo at entry=0x13f62f0) at ssl.c:348 No locals.
> #8  0x00000000005d2e9b in sock_close (sock=0x13f62f0) at socket.c:1628
>         ret = <optimized out>
> #9  0x00000000005cea7a in session_close
> (session=session at entry=0x3c55c00) at session.c:355 No locals.
> #10 0x00000000005cf8c4 in session_destroy
> (session=session at entry=0x3c55c00) at session.c:222 No locals.
> #11 0x00000000004e1f54 in nntp_ping (data=0x3c55c00) at news.c:304
> No locals.

Seems to be some memory braindamage at ssl connection close if the
NNTP(s) DATE ping fails... Do you happen to have the corresponding
network log?

I've commited something in cvs41 but I don't believe it's going to fix
anything. It's just that the xcred pointer wasn't nullified like the
certs pointers.

-- 
Colin
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From c-blair at illinois.edu  Wed Dec  5 22:40:46 2012
From: c-blair at illinois.edu (Charles Blair)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 15:40:46 -0600
Subject: [Users] installation "incomplete folder" SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1354705202.3234.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
References: <mailman.3.1354705202.3234.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
Message-ID: <20121205154046.7ff6e6e6@toshiba2012.hsd1.il.comcast.net>

On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 12:00:02 +0100
<users-request at lists.claws-mail.org> wrote:

 
> >   I'm sorry that I don't know how to
> > post follow-ups within a single thread (I'm receiving
> > digests, if that makes a difference).  Thanks to
> > anyone who has the patience to read the detailed
> > account below.  

>   Have you tried to select the text you want to reply and hit reply
> button?
 
   I am trying this right now!  If it reaches
the mailing list in an appropriate way, thank
you very much.

   More important, clicking the icon at the
bottom brought claws-mail itself to life.
Again, thank you!


From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Wed Dec  5 22:59:28 2012
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 13:59:28 -0800
Subject: [Users] Going back to previous version
Message-ID: <20121205135928.5f0625cc@from-theboss.911networks.com>

Hi,

I use CM 390 on Ubuntu 12.04. I'm having too many problems with the
CM behaviour.

I want to go back to CM 379. Any special procedure? Instructions?

-- 
Thanks
http://www.911networks.com
When the network has to work


From egbert.bouwman at gmail.com  Wed Dec  5 23:07:42 2012
From: egbert.bouwman at gmail.com (Egbert Bouwman)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 23:07:42 +0100
Subject: [Users] Action in Windows doesn't react
Message-ID: <CABbS4XoSYac2M5gECirfPea3KJ8Qts2=ya6vN-cO-N7pPToNfg@mail.gmail.com>

After my question about non-responsive user actions in windows claws-mail,
Colin Leroy wrote:

> what's possible is that actions have bugs in Windows...
> I'll check that tomorrow.

Depending on the results I can decide how to go on:

- go on searching for my mistakes
- do nothing, just wait
- submit a bug report.

Please tell.
Regards,
egbert

-- 
Egbert Bouwman  [GMail]


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Thu Dec  6 01:15:25 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 00:15:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] Crash in cvs40, backtrace etc appended
In-Reply-To: <20121205212539.7280f3b5@mike>
References: <20121205195608.100753b5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121205212539.7280f3b5@mike>
Message-ID: <20121206001525.6ba5b84b@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>

On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 21:25:39 +0100
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

> Seems to be some memory braindamage at ssl connection close if the
> NNTP(s) DATE ping fails... Do you happen to have the corresponding
> network log?

No, I didn't have any way to save it as Claws was completely dead and
unmoving by the time I saw this.

I'll try the patch you committed and see if it helps, I've seen a
couple of crashes recently but this was the first time I've managed to
get abrt to actually capture what happened. If I can I'll grab the
network log next time it happens, but I can't be sure I'll be able to.

-- 

Brian Morrison

                "I am not young enough to know everything"
                                                          Oscar Wilde


From colin at colino.net  Thu Dec  6 09:51:18 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 09:51:18 +0100
Subject: [Users] Going back to previous version
In-Reply-To: <20121205135928.5f0625cc@from-theboss.911networks.com>
References: <20121205135928.5f0625cc@from-theboss.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20121206095118.0c13a11f@colin>

On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 13:59:28 -0800, sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:

> I use CM 390 on Ubuntu 12.04. I'm having too many problems with the
> CM behaviour.

What kind of problems?

> I want to go back to CM 379. Any special procedure? Instructions?

Uninstall it (and plugins), remove the PPA, apt-get update and reinstall
it.

-- 
Colin


From nicolas.claws at iselin.ch  Thu Dec  6 10:31:32 2012
From: nicolas.claws at iselin.ch (Nicolas Iselin)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 10:31:32 +0100
Subject: [Users] Recursively mark as read?
Message-ID: <20121206103132.79d118e8@omega>


Hi, 

I was looking for a function to recursively mark all mails as read
starting in a certain folder. I found the following bug description:

  http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1941

I read that the patch was applied to 3.7.10, I am using Claws 3.8.0 but
don't have that function. Am I missing something?

Do I simply have to go down the following route?

  http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.mail.sylpheed.claws.general/45203

Thanks for all comments.

Nicolas


From m.rovis at inet.hr  Thu Dec  6 15:44:16 2012
From: m.rovis at inet.hr (Miroslav Rovis)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 15:44:16 +0100
Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?b?R2FyYmxlZCDFoMSQxb3EhsSMIMWhxJHFvsSHxI0sIHdo?=
 =?utf-8?q?y_=28my_guess=29=2C_but_how_to_fix_it=3F?=
Message-ID: <20121206154416.2e0541d7@at8-g250.exdeowg>


Hi!
It is, in a case like this, best shown in screencast:

"Claws-mail, garbled ŠĐŽĆČ and why"
http://youtu.be/EYcQzzSeU5w
you only need the first 9 minutes, or even just the single first one
minute to see what problem I have.

A note on this message and esp. the title:
If the characters are not right in the title of this message, it's just
more to the same problem and on the same problem.

Anyway, to put it in words for those who prefer it in text:

All of a sudden, after being exposed to the internet a while, and it
can be shown on same messages that already allowed replying and sending
in fine utf-8 encoding...
...all of a sudden, no more so.
But instead, these chars specific to Croatian (and some other
Central-European languages): šđžćčŠĐŽĆČ would show all garbled and
unreadable, and it is not fixable from the Claws-mail interface.
Suspicion: my own regime's hackers (I am a dissenter, and was already
almost jailed after havomg beem dragged to court repeatedly in rigged
judicial processes).
Help needed to fix this.
Have backup, previous, 2 days' old backup doesn't produce garbled chars
in exact same circumstances and with same messages.
Have backed up all of claws-mail, meaning, the mailbox itself, and the:
~/.claws-mail directory.
Can sift through settings and messages, old and new, the bad and the
good, the bad being the new (because hacked into, IMO), the good the
old (2 days's old), in whichever of, the Claws-mail directories or
mailbox, as necessary, as to pinpoint the problem...

If anyone has ideas on this, they are welcome.
On my part, I'll go and study claws and it's manual, and see if I come
up with something.

-- 
Miroslav Rovis
m.rovis at inet.hr
miro.rovis at gmail.com
01 660 2633
091 266 0202
#===      osuđen:     ===#
http://www.croatiafidelis.hr/Miroslav_Rovis_politicki_progon/
#===    pravomoćno!   ===#
http://www.exDeo.com
http://groups.google.com/group/croatian-news/
http://www.youtube.com/user/miroR2
nije moj profil, ali do siečnja 2012., a i kasnije, tamo postavljah:
http://www.youtube.com/user/prosvjednikkrcmarek
Ima nešto i ovdje:
http://vimeo.com/user9621785
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/
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From jerry at seibercom.net  Thu Dec  6 17:05:40 2012
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 11:05:40 -0500
Subject: [Users] Counting characters
Message-ID: <20121206110540.2e833659@scorpio>

I occasionally use claws-mail to send text messages to cell phone
devices. These have to be under 140 characters in total (or maybe 160 --
I forget). Anyway, does anyone know of a quick way to determine the
number of characters in the message other than physically counting them?

Thanks!

-- 
Jerry ♔

Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored.
Please do not ignore the Reply-To header.
__________________________________________________________________
Give a woman an inch and she'll park a car in it.


From colin at colino.net  Thu Dec  6 17:12:18 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 17:12:18 +0100
Subject: [Users] Counting characters
In-Reply-To: <20121206110540.2e833659@scorpio>
References: <20121206110540.2e833659@scorpio>
Message-ID: <20121206171218.7d11f1e2@colin>

On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 11:05:40 -0500, Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:

> I occasionally use claws-mail to send text messages to cell phone
> devices. These have to be under 140 characters in total (or maybe 160
> -- I forget). Anyway, does anyone know of a quick way to determine the
> number of characters in the message other than physically counting
> them?

Nope, apart from the ruler at the top of the compose window, where 140
chars is two 70 chars lines :)

-- 
Colin


From neil at digimed.co.uk  Thu Dec  6 17:20:09 2012
From: neil at digimed.co.uk (Neil Bothwick)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 16:20:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] Counting characters
In-Reply-To: <20121206110540.2e833659@scorpio>
References: <20121206110540.2e833659@scorpio>
Message-ID: <20121206162009.6887924d@digimed.co.uk>

On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 11:05:40 -0500, Jerry wrote:

> I occasionally use claws-mail to send text messages to cell phone
> devices. These have to be under 140 characters in total (or maybe 160 --
> I forget). Anyway, does anyone know of a quick way to determine the
> number of characters in the message other than physically counting them?

Try this as an action

 | kdialog --msgbox "Characters: $(wc -c)"

If you don't use KDE, replace kdialog with your desktop's equivalent.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

"There are some ideas so idiotic that only an intellectual could believe
them" George Orwell
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From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Thu Dec  6 17:41:06 2012
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 08:41:06 -0800
Subject: [Users] Going back to previous version
In-Reply-To: <20121206095118.0c13a11f@colin>
References: <20121205135928.5f0625cc@from-theboss.911networks.com>
	<20121206095118.0c13a11f@colin>
Message-ID: <20121206084106.42796313@from-theboss.911networks.com>

On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 09:51:18 +0100
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 13:59:28 -0800, sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:
>
>> I use CM 390 on Ubuntu 12.04. I'm having too many problems with the
>> CM behaviour.
>
>What kind of problems?

* Problems with displaying quoted portions of messages
* 100% cpu usage on some Dell html emails. I have have Fancy (0.9.17)
  installed.

Both work without problem under CM 379

-- 
Thanks
http://www.911networks.com
When the network has to work


From colin at colino.net  Thu Dec  6 17:47:14 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 17:47:14 +0100
Subject: [Users] Going back to previous version
In-Reply-To: <20121206084106.42796313@from-theboss.911networks.com>
References: <20121205135928.5f0625cc@from-theboss.911networks.com>
	<20121206095118.0c13a11f@colin>
	<20121206084106.42796313@from-theboss.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20121206174714.33110c58@colin>

On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 08:41:06 -0800, sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:

> * Problems with displaying quoted portions of messages

What Abhay told you (View menu, Quotes, uncheck Collapse all) didn't
help ?

> * 100% cpu usage on some Dell html emails. I have have Fancy (0.9.17)
>   installed.

No idea where that would come from, though...

-- 
Colin


From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Thu Dec  6 17:50:25 2012
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 08:50:25 -0800
Subject: [Users] Going back to previous version
In-Reply-To: <20121206084106.42796313@from-theboss.911networks.com>
References: <20121205135928.5f0625cc@from-theboss.911networks.com>
	<20121206095118.0c13a11f@colin>
	<20121206084106.42796313@from-theboss.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20121206085025.3349d125@from-theboss.911networks.com>

On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 08:41:06 -0800
sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:

>* Problems with displaying quoted portions of messages
>* 100% cpu usage on some Dell html emails. I have have Fancy (0.9.17)
>  installed.

forgot to mention that the 100% CPU is before selecting the the Fancy
(a)

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


-- 
Thanks
http://www.911networks.com
When the network has to work


From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Thu Dec  6 17:52:49 2012
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 08:52:49 -0800
Subject: [Users] Going back to previous version
In-Reply-To: <20121206174714.33110c58@colin>
References: <20121205135928.5f0625cc@from-theboss.911networks.com>
	<20121206095118.0c13a11f@colin>
	<20121206084106.42796313@from-theboss.911networks.com>
	<20121206174714.33110c58@colin>
Message-ID: <20121206085249.7ff3c064@from-theboss.911networks.com>

On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 17:47:14 +0100
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 08:41:06 -0800, sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:
>
>> * Problems with displaying quoted portions of messages
>
>What Abhay told you (View menu, Quotes, uncheck Collapse all) didn't
>help ?
>

Yes and no: Yes it works on the spot for the whole email but then it
comes back. I had to "hide-quotes=0" in clawsrc, but then every so
often it comes back.

-- 
Thanks
http://www.911networks.com
When the network has to work


From colin at colino.net  Thu Dec  6 17:57:41 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 17:57:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] Going back to previous version
In-Reply-To: <20121206085249.7ff3c064@from-theboss.911networks.com>
References: <20121205135928.5f0625cc@from-theboss.911networks.com>
	<20121206095118.0c13a11f@colin>
	<20121206084106.42796313@from-theboss.911networks.com>
	<20121206174714.33110c58@colin>
	<20121206085249.7ff3c064@from-theboss.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20121206175741.45d9fe55@colin>

On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 08:52:49 -0800, sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:

> Yes and no: Yes it works on the spot for the whole email but then it
> comes back. I had to "hide-quotes=0" in clawsrc, but then every so
> often it comes back.

Did you try removing the keyboard shortcut (by hitting Del with the
mouse over the menu item). It may be that you trigger it by mistake...

-- 
Colin


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Thu Dec  6 18:12:54 2012
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 17:12:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] Going back to previous version
In-Reply-To: <20121206085249.7ff3c064@from-theboss.911networks.com>
References: <20121205135928.5f0625cc@from-theboss.911networks.com>
	<20121206095118.0c13a11f@colin>
	<20121206084106.42796313@from-theboss.911networks.com>
	<20121206174714.33110c58@colin>
	<20121206085249.7ff3c064@from-theboss.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20121206171254.568da1cc@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 08:52:49 -0800
sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:

Hello sylpheed at 911networks.com,

>Yes and no: Yes it works on the spot for the whole email but then it
>comes back. I had to "hide-quotes=0" in clawsrc, but then every so
>often it comes back.

If CM crashes, or you have to kill it, then the settings might not get
saved correctly, and a backup copy be used.  That might explain the
reappearance of the unwanted quote behaviour.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
We don't need no-one to tell us what's right or wrong
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From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Thu Dec  6 18:19:59 2012
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 09:19:59 -0800
Subject: [Users] Going back to previous version
In-Reply-To: <20121206175741.45d9fe55@colin>
References: <20121205135928.5f0625cc@from-theboss.911networks.com>
	<20121206095118.0c13a11f@colin>
	<20121206084106.42796313@from-theboss.911networks.com>
	<20121206174714.33110c58@colin>
	<20121206085249.7ff3c064@from-theboss.911networks.com>
	<20121206175741.45d9fe55@colin>
Message-ID: <20121206091959.32ef11b6@from-theboss.911networks.com>

On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 17:57:41 +0100
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 08:52:49 -0800, sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:
>
>> Yes and no: Yes it works on the spot for the whole email but then
>> it comes back. I had to "hide-quotes=0" in clawsrc, but then every
>> so often it comes back.
>
>Did you try removing the keyboard shortcut (by hitting Del with the
>mouse over the menu item). It may be that you trigger it by
>mistake...

The shortcut associated is the default: Ctrl-Shift-Q I'm deleting
right now and we will see.

-- 
Thanks
http://www.911networks.com
When the network has to work


From jerry at seibercom.net  Thu Dec  6 19:04:10 2012
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 13:04:10 -0500
Subject: [Users] Counting characters
In-Reply-To: <20121206162009.6887924d@digimed.co.uk>
References: <20121206110540.2e833659@scorpio>
	<20121206162009.6887924d@digimed.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20121206130410.32e07c56@scorpio>

On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 16:20:09 +0000
Neil Bothwick articulated:

> On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 11:05:40 -0500, Jerry wrote:
> 
> > I occasionally use claws-mail to send text messages to cell phone
> > devices. These have to be under 140 characters in total (or maybe
> > 160 -- I forget). Anyway, does anyone know of a quick way to
> > determine the number of characters in the message other than
> > physically counting them?
> 
> Try this as an action
> 
>  | kdialog --msgbox "Characters: $(wc -c)"
> 
> If you don't use KDE, replace kdialog with your desktop's equivalent.
 You win the prize for best suggestion -- almost. While it certainly
 does work, an error window pops up with this ominous message:

--- Ended:  kdialog --msgbox "Characters: $(wc -c)"
kdialog(25959)/KSharedDataCache: Unable to find an appropriate lock to guard the shared cache.  This *should* be essentially impossible. :( 
kdialog(25959)/KSharedDataCache: Unable to perform initial setup, this system probably does not really support process-shared pthreads or semaphores, even though it claims otherwise. 
kdialog(25959)/KSharedDataCache: Unable to unmap shared memory segment 0x8095c3000 

This is not really a problem since I would only require this function a
few times a month.


-- 
Jerry ♔

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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Thu Dec  6 19:50:31 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 18:50:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] Crash in cvs40, backtrace etc appended
In-Reply-To: <20121206001525.6ba5b84b@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20121205195608.100753b5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121205212539.7280f3b5@mike>
	<20121206001525.6ba5b84b@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20121206185031.00001286@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 00:15:25 +0000
Brian Morrison wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 21:25:39 +0100
> Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:
> 
> > Seems to be some memory braindamage at ssl connection close if the
> > NNTP(s) DATE ping fails... Do you happen to have the corresponding
> > network log?
> 
> No, I didn't have any way to save it as Claws was completely dead and
> unmoving by the time I saw this.
> 
> I'll try the patch you committed and see if it helps, I've seen a
> couple of crashes recently but this was the first time I've managed to
> get abrt to actually capture what happened. If I can I'll grab the
> network log next time it happens, but I can't be sure I'll be able to.
> 

I have been running cvs43 for almost 24 hours, it seems to have crashed
again and left something in the claws.log file.

Essentially these various snippets found with grep -B 10 warning ~/.claws-mail/claws.log ...

[09:31:53] NNTP> DATE
[09:31:53] ** warning: NNTP connection to news.zen.co.uk:119 has been disconnected.
--
[10:34:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Web and non-web lists" (MESSAGES 76 UIDNEXT 77 UIDVALIDITY 1140230778 UNSEEN 0)
[10:34:36] IMAP4< 8584 OK Status completed.
[10:34:36] IMAP4> 8585 STATUS XH558 (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN)
[10:34:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "XH558" (MESSAGES 102 UIDNEXT 103 UIDVALIDITY 1247386286 UNSEEN 0)
[10:34:36] IMAP4< 8585 OK Status completed.
[10:34:36] IMAP4> 8586 STATUS Zen (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN)
[10:34:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Zen" (MESSAGES 37 UIDNEXT 38 UIDVALIDITY 1247386278 UNSEEN 0)
[10:34:36] IMAP4< 8586 OK Status completed.
[10:34:36] NNTP> DATE
[10:34:36] NNTP< 400 reader03.nrc01.news.zen.net.uk: Session timeout.
[10:34:36] ** warning: NNTP connection to news.zen.co.uk:119 has been disconnected.
--
[11:34:57] IMAP4> 12666 STATUS "Web and non-web lists" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN)
[11:34:57] IMAP4< * STATUS "Web and non-web lists" (MESSAGES 76 UIDNEXT 77 UIDVALIDITY 1140230778 UNSEEN 0)
[11:34:57] IMAP4< 12666 OK Status completed.
[11:34:57] IMAP4> 12667 STATUS XH558 (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN)
[11:34:57] IMAP4< * STATUS "XH558" (MESSAGES 102 UIDNEXT 103 UIDVALIDITY 1247386286 UNSEEN 0)
[11:34:57] IMAP4< 12667 OK Status completed.
[11:34:57] IMAP4> 12668 STATUS Zen (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN)
[11:34:57] IMAP4< * STATUS "Zen" (MESSAGES 37 UIDNEXT 38 UIDVALIDITY 1247386278 UNSEEN 0)
[11:34:57] IMAP4< 12668 OK Status completed.
[11:34:57] NNTP> DATE
[11:34:57] ** warning: NNTP connection to news.zen.co.uk:119 has been disconnected.
--
[11:34:58] NNTP< 221 newsgroups data follows
[11:34:58] NNTP< .
[11:34:58] NNTP> XHDR to -1
[11:34:58] NNTP< 221 to data follows
[11:34:58] NNTP< .
[11:34:58] NNTP> XHDR cc -1
[11:34:58] NNTP< 221 cc data follows
[11:34:58] NNTP< .
[11:34:58] NNTP> GROUP zen.support
[11:34:58] NNTP< 211 1 11117 11117 zen.support
[11:34:58] ** warning: NNTP connection to news.zen.co.uk:119 has been disconnected.
--
[12:38:19] IMAP4> 16961 STATUS "Web and non-web lists" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN)
[12:38:19] IMAP4< * STATUS "Web and non-web lists" (MESSAGES 76 UIDNEXT 77 UIDVALIDITY 1140230778 UNSEEN 0)
[12:38:19] IMAP4< 16961 OK Status completed.
[12:38:19] IMAP4> 16962 STATUS XH558 (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN)
[12:38:19] IMAP4< * STATUS "XH558" (MESSAGES 102 UIDNEXT 103 UIDVALIDITY 1247386286 UNSEEN 0)
[12:38:19] IMAP4< 16962 OK Status completed.
[12:38:19] IMAP4> 16963 STATUS Zen (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN)
[12:38:19] IMAP4< * STATUS "Zen" (MESSAGES 37 UIDNEXT 38 UIDVALIDITY 1247386278 UNSEEN 0)
[12:38:19] IMAP4< 16963 OK Status completed.
[12:38:19] NNTP> DATE
[12:38:19] ** warning: NNTP connection to news.zen.co.uk:119 has been disconnected.
--
[12:38:20] NNTP< 221 newsgroups data follows
[12:38:20] NNTP< .
[12:38:20] NNTP> XHDR to -1
[12:38:20] NNTP< 221 to data follows
[12:38:20] NNTP< .
[12:38:20] NNTP> XHDR cc -1
[12:38:20] NNTP< 221 cc data follows
[12:38:20] NNTP< .
[12:38:20] NNTP> GROUP zen.support
[12:38:20] NNTP< 211 1 11117 11117 zen.support
[12:38:20] ** warning: NNTP connection to news.zen.co.uk:119 has been disconnected.

Does that help?

-- 

Brian Morrison


From freebsd at grem.de  Thu Dec  6 19:57:29 2012
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 19:57:29 +0100
Subject: [Users] Counting characters
In-Reply-To: <20121206130410.32e07c56@scorpio>
References: <20121206110540.2e833659@scorpio>
	<20121206162009.6887924d@digimed.co.uk>
	<20121206130410.32e07c56@scorpio>
Message-ID: <20121206195729.3cf109fb@bsd64.grem.de>



On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 13:04:10 -0500
Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 16:20:09 +0000
> Neil Bothwick articulated:
> 
> > On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 11:05:40 -0500, Jerry wrote:
> > 
> > > I occasionally use claws-mail to send text messages to cell phone
> > > devices. These have to be under 140 characters in total (or maybe
> > > 160 -- I forget). Anyway, does anyone know of a quick way to
> > > determine the number of characters in the message other than
> > > physically counting them?
> > 
> > Try this as an action
> > 
> >  | kdialog --msgbox "Characters: $(wc -c)"
> > 
> > If you don't use KDE, replace kdialog with your desktop's
> > equivalent.
>  You win the prize for best suggestion -- almost. While it certainly
>  does work, an error window pops up with this ominous message:
> 
> --- Ended:  kdialog --msgbox "Characters: $(wc -c)"
> kdialog(25959)/KSharedDataCache: Unable to find an appropriate lock
> to guard the shared cache.  This *should* be essentially
> impossible. :( kdialog(25959)/KSharedDataCache: Unable to perform
> initial setup, this system probably does not really support
> process-shared pthreads or semaphores, even though it claims
> otherwise. kdialog(25959)/KSharedDataCache: Unable to unmap shared
> memory segment 0x8095c3000 
> 
> This is not really a problem since I would only require this function
> a few times a month.
> 
> 

Or you could just write your SMS/Text messages in external editor
(emacs, vi, gedit, whatever) that provides such a functionality
(Shift-Ctrl-X by default).


-- 
Michael Gmelin


From pf at pfortin.com  Thu Dec  6 20:14:22 2012
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 14:14:22 -0500
Subject: [Users] SMS/MMS handling [was Re:  Counting characters]
Message-ID: <20121206141422.063aa180@pfortin.com>


Rather than file an enhancement request; thought I'd just bounce the idea
here since it may be just a pipe dream... :)

On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 17:12:18 +0100 Colin Leroy wrote:

>On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 11:05:40 -0500, Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:
>
>> I occasionally use claws-mail to send text messages to cell phone
>> devices. These have to be under 140 characters in total (or maybe 160
>> -- I forget). Anyway, does anyone know of a quick way to determine the
>> number of characters in the message other than physically counting
>> them?
>
>Nope, apart from the ruler at the top of the compose window, where 140
>chars is two 70 chars lines :)
>

A quick test shows that a (no Subject) message containing 320 digits got
delivered with only the first 156 digits and no subsequent message.

Sure would be nice if there was a way to send SMS messages, which might
require:
- [x] Format as SMS **
  - disable, or allow sending w/o Subject
  - turn off wrapping (tho, I painfully remember the wrap problems :)
  - split long messages into multiple SMS as my Android does***

Hey! It's just a dream :)  BUT, if anyone coded this, it would open the
door to MMS...  :) :)

** I have Mail/{SMS,MMS}/<phone#> mailboxes; so SMS/MMS properties
   would be a nice addition for composing...  :) 
*** for some reason, split messages *always* arrive out of
order: 1,3,2

In case it helps someone, cell providers may use different addresses for
SMS & MMS, such as mine does:
  SMS:  <phone#>@sms.provider.tld
  MMS:  <phone#>@provider.tld
Send one of each type from your phone to your email address to get the
exact addresses.

Cheers,
Pierre


From colin at colino.net  Thu Dec  6 20:47:48 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 20:47:48 +0100
Subject: [Users] Crash in cvs40, backtrace etc appended
In-Reply-To: <20121206185031.00001286@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20121205195608.100753b5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121205212539.7280f3b5@mike>
	<20121206001525.6ba5b84b@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121206185031.00001286@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <93a3d3f6-2761-42a9-9c34-ffa5a09c3431@email.android.com>


Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> a écrit :

>On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 00:15:25 +0000
>Brian Morrison wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 21:25:39 +0100
>> Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:
>> 
>> > Seems to be some memory braindamage at ssl connection close if the
>> > NNTP(s) DATE ping fails... Do you happen to have the corresponding
>> > network log?
>> 
>> No, I didn't have any way to save it as Claws was completely dead and
>> unmoving by the time I saw this.
>> 
>> I'll try the patch you committed and see if it helps, I've seen a
>> couple of crashes recently but this was the first time I've managed
>to
>> get abrt to actually capture what happened. If I can I'll grab the
>> network log next time it happens, but I can't be sure I'll be able
>to.
>> 
>
>I have been running cvs43 for almost 24 hours, it seems to have crashed
>again and left something in the claws.log file.
>
>Essentially these various snippets found with grep -B 10 warning
>~/.claws-mail/claws.log ...
>
>[09:31:53] NNTP> DATE
>[09:31:53] ** warning: NNTP connection to news.zen.co.uk:119 has been
>disconnected.
>--
>[10:34:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Web and non-web lists" (MESSAGES 76 UIDNEXT
>77 UIDVALIDITY 1140230778 UNSEEN 0)
>[10:34:36] IMAP4< 8584 OK Status completed.
>[10:34:36] IMAP4> 8585 STATUS XH558 (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY
>UNSEEN)
>[10:34:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "XH558" (MESSAGES 102 UIDNEXT 103
>UIDVALIDITY 1247386286 UNSEEN 0)
>[10:34:36] IMAP4< 8585 OK Status completed.
>[10:34:36] IMAP4> 8586 STATUS Zen (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN)
>[10:34:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Zen" (MESSAGES 37 UIDNEXT 38 UIDVALIDITY
>1247386278 UNSEEN 0)
>[10:34:36] IMAP4< 8586 OK Status completed.
>[10:34:36] NNTP> DATE
>[10:34:36] NNTP< 400 reader03.nrc01.news.zen.net.uk: Session timeout.
>[10:34:36] ** warning: NNTP connection to news.zen.co.uk:119 has been
>disconnected.
>--
>[11:34:57] IMAP4> 12666 STATUS "Web and non-web lists" (MESSAGES
>UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN)
>[11:34:57] IMAP4< * STATUS "Web and non-web lists" (MESSAGES 76 UIDNEXT
>77 UIDVALIDITY 1140230778 UNSEEN 0)
>[11:34:57] IMAP4< 12666 OK Status completed.
>[11:34:57] IMAP4> 12667 STATUS XH558 (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY
>UNSEEN)
>[11:34:57] IMAP4< * STATUS "XH558" (MESSAGES 102 UIDNEXT 103
>UIDVALIDITY 1247386286 UNSEEN 0)
>[11:34:57] IMAP4< 12667 OK Status completed.
>[11:34:57] IMAP4> 12668 STATUS Zen (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY
>UNSEEN)
>[11:34:57] IMAP4< * STATUS "Zen" (MESSAGES 37 UIDNEXT 38 UIDVALIDITY
>1247386278 UNSEEN 0)
>[11:34:57] IMAP4< 12668 OK Status completed.
>[11:34:57] NNTP> DATE
>[11:34:57] ** warning: NNTP connection to news.zen.co.uk:119 has been
>disconnected.
>--
>[11:34:58] NNTP< 221 newsgroups data follows
>[11:34:58] NNTP< .
>[11:34:58] NNTP> XHDR to -1
>[11:34:58] NNTP< 221 to data follows
>[11:34:58] NNTP< .
>[11:34:58] NNTP> XHDR cc -1
>[11:34:58] NNTP< 221 cc data follows
>[11:34:58] NNTP< .
>[11:34:58] NNTP> GROUP zen.support
>[11:34:58] NNTP< 211 1 11117 11117 zen.support
>[11:34:58] ** warning: NNTP connection to news.zen.co.uk:119 has been
>disconnected.
>--
>[12:38:19] IMAP4> 16961 STATUS "Web and non-web lists" (MESSAGES
>UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN)
>[12:38:19] IMAP4< * STATUS "Web and non-web lists" (MESSAGES 76 UIDNEXT
>77 UIDVALIDITY 1140230778 UNSEEN 0)
>[12:38:19] IMAP4< 16961 OK Status completed.
>[12:38:19] IMAP4> 16962 STATUS XH558 (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY
>UNSEEN)
>[12:38:19] IMAP4< * STATUS "XH558" (MESSAGES 102 UIDNEXT 103
>UIDVALIDITY 1247386286 UNSEEN 0)
>[12:38:19] IMAP4< 16962 OK Status completed.
>[12:38:19] IMAP4> 16963 STATUS Zen (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY
>UNSEEN)
>[12:38:19] IMAP4< * STATUS "Zen" (MESSAGES 37 UIDNEXT 38 UIDVALIDITY
>1247386278 UNSEEN 0)
>[12:38:19] IMAP4< 16963 OK Status completed.
>[12:38:19] NNTP> DATE
>[12:38:19] ** warning: NNTP connection to news.zen.co.uk:119 has been
>disconnected.
>--
>[12:38:20] NNTP< 221 newsgroups data follows
>[12:38:20] NNTP< .
>[12:38:20] NNTP> XHDR to -1
>[12:38:20] NNTP< 221 to data follows
>[12:38:20] NNTP< .
>[12:38:20] NNTP> XHDR cc -1
>[12:38:20] NNTP< 221 cc data follows
>[12:38:20] NNTP< .
>[12:38:20] NNTP> GROUP zen.support
>[12:38:20] NNTP< 211 1 11117 11117 zen.support
>[12:38:20] ** warning: NNTP connection to news.zen.co.uk:119 has been
>disconnected.
>
>Does that help?

Could you get the unedited end starting from 12:38:15 ? Thanks !
-- 
Envoyé de mon téléphone Android avec K-9 Mail. Excusez la brièveté.


From jerry at seibercom.net  Thu Dec  6 20:47:28 2012
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 14:47:28 -0500
Subject: [Users] Counting characters
In-Reply-To: <20121206195729.3cf109fb@bsd64.grem.de>
References: <20121206110540.2e833659@scorpio>
	<20121206162009.6887924d@digimed.co.uk>
	<20121206130410.32e07c56@scorpio>
	<20121206195729.3cf109fb@bsd64.grem.de>
Message-ID: <20121206144728.72a8eb8b@scorpio>

On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 19:57:29 +0100
Michael Gmelin articulated:

> Or you could just write your SMS/Text messages in external editor
> (emacs, vi, gedit, whatever) that provides such a functionality
> (Shift-Ctrl-X by default).

I realize that there are other solutions; however, in keeping with my
KISS principal, I was just trying to do it as painlessly as possible.
In any case, I only actually need this functionality a few times a
month, mainly because I am not near my cell phone. A built-n SMS
function in claws-mail would be really cool, but hardly a priority.

-- 
Jerry ♔

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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Thu Dec  6 20:55:46 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 19:55:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] Further crash in cvs43,
 unsure if this is a repeat of the cvs40 crash
Message-ID: <20121206195546.67b218b5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>

Here's the backtrace...

[New LWP 10937]
[New LWP 10940]
[New LWP 10956]
[New LWP 10957]
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
Using host libthread_db library "/lib64/libthread_db.so.1".
warning: "/var/cache/abrt-di/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib64/libicudata.so.48.1.1.debug": separate debug info file has no debug info
Core was generated by `claws-mail'.
Program terminated with signal 6, Aborted.
#0  0x0000003744235935 in __GI_raise (sig=sig at entry=6) at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/raise.c:64
64	  return INLINE_SYSCALL (tgkill, 3, pid, selftid, sig);

Thread 4 (Thread 0x7feac37fe700 (LWP 10957)):
#0  pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:166
No locals.
#1  0x000000374ee31733 in mailsem_internal_wait (s=0x2b33fc0) at mailsem.c:121
        r = <optimized out>
#2  0x000000374ee318e8 in mailsem_down (sem=<optimized out>) at mailsem.c:321
No locals.
#3  0x00000000005e3de9 in thread_run (data=0x2b221f0) at etpan-thread-manager.c:331
        do_quit = <optimized out>
        op = <optimized out>
        thread = 0x2b221f0
        r = <optimized out>
#4  0x0000003744a07d14 in start_thread (arg=0x7feac37fe700) at pthread_create.c:309
        __res = <optimized out>
        pd = 0x7feac37fe700
        now = <optimized out>
        unwind_buf = {cancel_jmp_buf = {{jmp_buf = {140646279014144, -4553449185353444914, 0, 237359988736, 140646279014144, 45228528, 4547334802131866062, -4566527599788338738}, mask_was_saved = 0}}, priv = {pad = {0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0}, data = {prev = 0x0, cleanup = 0x0, canceltype = 0}}}
        not_first_call = 0
        pagesize_m1 = <optimized out>
        sp = <optimized out>
        freesize = <optimized out>
#5  0x00000037442f168d in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:115
No locals.

Thread 3 (Thread 0x7feac3fff700 (LWP 10956)):
#0  0x00000037442e8bdf in __GI___poll (fds=<optimized out>, nfds=<optimized out>, timeout=<optimized out>) at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c:87
        resultvar = <optimized out>
        oldtype = 0
        result = <optimized out>
#1  0x0000003746e47af4 in g_main_context_poll (n_fds=3, fds=0x7feabc0010c0, timeout=-1, context=0x7feac4008ac0, priority=<optimized out>) at gmain.c:3440
        poll_func = 0x3746e55910 <g_poll>
#2  g_main_context_iterate (context=0x7feac4008ac0, block=block at entry=1, dispatch=dispatch at entry=1, self=<optimized out>) at gmain.c:3141
        max_priority = 2147483647
        timeout = -1
        some_ready = <optimized out>
        nfds = 3
        allocated_nfds = <optimized out>
        fds = 0x7feabc0010c0
#3  0x0000003746e47f52 in g_main_loop_run (loop=0x7feac4008a70) at gmain.c:3340
        __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "g_main_loop_run"
#4  0x000000374c2c94d6 in gdbus_shared_thread_func (user_data=0x7feac4008a90) at gdbusprivate.c:277
        data = 0x7feac4008a90
#5  0x0000003746e6a495 in g_thread_proxy (data=0x7feac4003b70) at gthread.c:801
        thread = 0x7feac4003b70
#6  0x0000003744a07d14 in start_thread (arg=0x7feac3fff700) at pthread_create.c:309
        __res = <optimized out>
        pd = 0x7feac3fff700
        now = <optimized out>
        unwind_buf = {cancel_jmp_buf = {{jmp_buf = {140646287406848, -4553449185353444914, 0, 237359988736, 140646287406848, 140646287444624, 4547335900032881102, -4566527599788338738}, mask_was_saved = 0}}, priv = {pad = {0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0}, data = {prev = 0x0, cleanup = 0x0, canceltype = 0}}}
        not_first_call = 0
        pagesize_m1 = <optimized out>
        sp = <optimized out>
        freesize = <optimized out>
#7  0x00000037442f168d in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:115
No locals.

Thread 2 (Thread 0x7fead44e1700 (LWP 10940)):
#0  pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:166
No locals.
#1  0x000000374ee31733 in mailsem_internal_wait (s=0x2089a70) at mailsem.c:121
        r = <optimized out>
#2  0x000000374ee318e8 in mailsem_down (sem=<optimized out>) at mailsem.c:321
No locals.
#3  0x00000000005e3de9 in thread_run (data=0x20be030) at etpan-thread-manager.c:331
        do_quit = <optimized out>
        op = <optimized out>
        thread = 0x20be030
        r = <optimized out>
#4  0x0000003744a07d14 in start_thread (arg=0x7fead44e1700) at pthread_create.c:309
        __res = <optimized out>
        pd = 0x7fead44e1700
        now = <optimized out>
        unwind_buf = {cancel_jmp_buf = {{jmp_buf = {140646560962304, -4553449185353444914, 0, 237359988736, 140646560962304, 34332720, 4547314608806253006, -4566527599788338738}, mask_was_saved = 0}}, priv = {pad = {0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0}, data = {prev = 0x0, cleanup = 0x0, canceltype = 0}}}
        not_first_call = 0
        pagesize_m1 = <optimized out>
        sp = <optimized out>
        freesize = <optimized out>
#5  0x00000037442f168d in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:115
No locals.

Thread 1 (Thread 0x7feadda46a00 (LWP 10937)):
#0  0x0000003744235935 in __GI_raise (sig=sig at entry=6) at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/raise.c:64
        resultvar = 0
        pid = 10937
        selftid = 10937
#1  0x00000037442370e8 in __GI_abort () at abort.c:91
        save_stage = 2
        act = {__sigaction_handler = {sa_handler = 0x7fff1094371a, sa_sigaction = 0x7fff1094371a}, sa_mask = {__val = {6, 237367686499, 2, 140733471536942, 2, 237367679812, 1, 237367686495, 3, 140733471536918, 10, 237367686499, 2, 140733471537728, 26, 140733471539488}}, sa_flags = 83, sa_restorer = 0x7}
        sigs = {__val = {32, 0 <repeats 15 times>}}
#2  0x0000003744274e8b in __libc_message (do_abort=do_abort at entry=2, fmt=fmt at entry=0x3744378928 "*** glibc detected *** %s: %s: 0x%s ***\n") at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/libc_fatal.c:198
        ap = {{gp_offset = 40, fp_offset = 48, overflow_arg_area = 0x7fff10944130, reg_save_area = 0x7fff10944040}}
        ap_copy = {{gp_offset = 16, fp_offset = 48, overflow_arg_area = 0x7fff10944130, reg_save_area = 0x7fff10944040}}
        fd = 2
        on_2 = <optimized out>
        list = <optimized out>
        nlist = <optimized out>
        cp = <optimized out>
        written = <optimized out>
#3  0x000000374427c00e in malloc_printerr (ptr=0x31e57c0, str=0x37443767b5 "free(): invalid pointer", action=3) at malloc.c:5027
        buf = "00000000031e57c0"
        cp = <optimized out>
#4  _int_free (av=0x37445b0720, p=0x31e57b0, have_lock=0) at malloc.c:3948
        size = <optimized out>
        fb = <optimized out>
        nextchunk = <optimized out>
        nextsize = <optimized out>
        nextinuse = <optimized out>
        prevsize = <optimized out>
        bck = <optimized out>
        fwd = <optimized out>
        errstr = <optimized out>
        locked = <optimized out>
#5  0x0000003767431cd9 in gnutls_certificate_free_keys (sc=sc at entry=0x31f41a0) at gnutls_cert.c:74
        i = <optimized out>
        j = <optimized out>
#6  0x0000003767431d59 in gnutls_certificate_free_credentials (sc=0x31f41a0) at gnutls_cert.c:280
No locals.
#7  0x00000000005d3860 in ssl_done_socket (sockinfo=sockinfo at entry=0x31e57c0) at ssl.c:349
No locals.
#8  0x00000000005d2e8b in sock_close (sock=0x31e57c0) at socket.c:1628
        ret = <optimized out>
#9  0x00000000005cea6a in session_close (session=session at entry=0x31f41b0) at session.c:355
No locals.
#10 0x00000000005cf8b4 in session_destroy (session=session at entry=0x31f41b0) at session.c:222
No locals.
#11 0x00000000004e1f54 in nntp_ping (data=0x31f41b0) at news.c:304
No locals.
#12 nntp_ping (data=0x31f41b0, data at entry=<error reading variable: value has been optimized out>) at news.c:285
        session = 0x31f41b0
        news_session = 0x31f41b0
        r = <optimized out>
        lt = {tm_sec = 278160080, tm_min = 32767, tm_hour = 278919324, tm_mday = 32767, tm_mon = 278160112, tm_year = 32767, tm_wday = 1, tm_yday = 0, tm_isdst = 30122832, tm_gmtoff = 30122832, tm_zone = 0x1cba350 "\360\204\313\001"}
#13 0x0000003746e483bb in g_timeout_dispatch (source=source at entry=0x2d4ebe0, callback=<optimized out>, user_data=<optimized out>) at gmain.c:3882
        timeout_source = <optimized out>
        again = <optimized out>
#14 0x0000003746e47825 in g_main_dispatch (context=0x1cba350) at gmain.c:2539
        dispatch = 0x3746e483a0 <g_timeout_dispatch>
        was_in_call = 0
        user_data = 0x31f41b0
        callback = 0x4e1e90 <nntp_ping>
        cb_funcs = 0x374711e980
        cb_data = 0x2e166b0
        current_source_link = {data = 0x2d4ebe0, next = 0x7fff109465c0 = {0x2090010}}
        need_destroy = <optimized out>
        source = 0x2d4ebe0
        current = 0x209cd40
        i = <optimized out>
#15 g_main_context_dispatch (context=context at entry=0x1cba350) at gmain.c:3075
No locals.
#16 0x0000003746e47b58 in g_main_context_iterate (context=context at entry=0x1cba350, block=block at entry=1, dispatch=dispatch at entry=1, self=<optimized out>) at gmain.c:3146
        max_priority = 0
        timeout = 0
        some_ready = 1
        nfds = <optimized out>
        allocated_nfds = <optimized out>
        fds = 0x2ad9ed0
#17 0x0000003746e47c14 in g_main_context_iteration (context=0x1cba350, context at entry=0x0, may_block=may_block at entry=1) at gmain.c:3207
        retval = <optimized out>
#18 0x000000375bf4ad31 in IA__gtk_main_iteration () at gtkmain.c:1345
No locals.
#19 0x00000000005c03ad in threaded_run (folder=folder at entry=0x20417d0, param=param at entry=0x7fff109464b0, result=result at entry=0x7fff109464a0, func=func at entry=0x5c1810 <noop_run>) at imap-thread.c:440
        op = 0x2b0ed10
#20 0x00000000005c37af in imap_threaded_noop (folder=0x20417d0, p_exists=p_exists at entry=0x7fff10946518, p_recent=p_recent at entry=0x7fff1094651c, p_expunge=p_expunge at entry=0x7fff10946520, p_unseen=p_unseen at entry=0x7fff10946524, p_uidnext=p_uidnext at entry=0x7fff10946528, p_uidval=p_uidval at entry=0x7fff1094652c) at imap-thread.c:1096
        param = {imap = 0x208ff00}
        result = {error = 0}
        imap = <optimized out>
#21 0x00000000004a0ae7 in imap_cmd_noop (session=session at entry=0x2177400) at imap.c:4008
        r = <optimized out>
        exists = <optimized out>
        recent = <optimized out>
        expunge = <optimized out>
        unseen = <optimized out>
        uidnext = <optimized out>
        uidval = <optimized out>
#22 0x00000000004a104d in imap_ping (data=0x2177400) at imap.c:559
        r = <optimized out>
#23 imap_ping (data=0x2177400, data at entry=<error reading variable: value has been optimized out>) at imap.c:547
        session = 0x2177400
        imap_session = 0x2177400
#24 0x0000003746e483bb in g_timeout_dispatch (source=source at entry=0x2090010, callback=<optimized out>, user_data=<optimized out>) at gmain.c:3882
        timeout_source = <optimized out>
        again = <optimized out>
#25 0x0000003746e47825 in g_main_dispatch (context=0x1cba350) at gmain.c:2539
        dispatch = 0x3746e483a0 <g_timeout_dispatch>
        was_in_call = 0
        user_data = 0x2177400
        callback = 0x4a1000 <imap_ping>
        cb_funcs = 0x374711e980
        cb_data = 0x208fca0
        current_source_link = {data = 0x2090010, next = 0x0}
        need_destroy = <optimized out>
        source = 0x2090010
        current = 0x209cd40
        i = <optimized out>
#26 g_main_context_dispatch (context=context at entry=0x1cba350) at gmain.c:3075
No locals.
#27 0x0000003746e47b58 in g_main_context_iterate (context=0x1cba350, block=block at entry=1, dispatch=dispatch at entry=1, self=<optimized out>) at gmain.c:3146
        max_priority = 2147483647
        timeout = 24711
        some_ready = 1
        nfds = <optimized out>
        allocated_nfds = <optimized out>
        fds = 0x2ad9ed0
#28 0x0000003746e47f52 in g_main_loop_run (loop=0x1c69cf0) at gmain.c:3340
        __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "g_main_loop_run"
#29 0x000000375bf4ab27 in IA__gtk_main () at gtkmain.c:1257
        tmp_list = 0x0
        functions = 0x0
        init = <optimized out>
        loop = 0x1c69cf0
#30 0x000000000044851a in main (argc=1, argv=0x7fff10946b98) at main.c:1710
        connection = 0x1cc9c38
        error = 0x0
        nm_proxy = 0x1cbe000 [DBusGProxy]
        userrc = <optimized out>
        mainwin = 0x1d1c160
        folderview = 0x1e76000
        icon = 0x1d06450 [GdkPixbuf]
        crash_file_present = <optimized out>
        num_folder_class = <optimized out>
        asked_for_migration = <optimized out>
        start_done = <optimized out>
        plug_list = 0x0
        never_ran = <optimized out>
        mainwin_shown = <optimized out>
        start = {tv_sec = 1354782647, tv_usec = 787958}
        end = {tv_sec = 1354782651, tv_usec = 306883}
        diff = {tv_sec = 3, tv_usec = 518925}
        timing_name = 0x650ed5 "startup"
        __FUNCTION__ = "main"
From                To                  Syms Read   Shared Object Library
0x0000003747600680  0x00000037476007fc  Yes         /lib64/libgthread-2.0.so.0
0x0000003756c00dc0  0x0000003756c05cac  Yes         /lib64/libcrypt.so.1
0x0000003758002ea0  0x00000037580080b8  Yes         /lib64/libenchant.so.1
0x000000374be010f0  0x000000374be01fd8  Yes         /lib64/libgmodule-2.0.so.0
0x000000375be69920  0x000000375c10b438  Yes         /lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
0x000000375c61e7c0  0x000000375c6810e4  Yes         /lib64/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
0x0000003750a09b30  0x0000003750a15c04  Yes         /lib64/libatk-1.0.so.0
0x000000374c22eee0  0x000000374c2eaaf4  Yes         /lib64/libgio-2.0.so.0
0x0000003750207600  0x0000003750221bfc  Yes         /lib64/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0
0x000000374fe04910  0x000000374fe09358  Yes         /lib64/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0
0x000000374f206750  0x000000374f219b50  Yes         /lib64/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0
0x000000374fa0b2f0  0x000000374fa8215c  Yes         /lib64/libcairo.so.2
0x000000375060eeb0  0x000000375062d490  Yes         /lib64/libpango-1.0.so.0
0x000000374960cbc0  0x0000003749677870  Yes         /usr/lib64/freetype-freeworld/libfreetype.so.6
0x0000003749e05ef0  0x0000003749e1f6fc  Yes         /lib64/libfontconfig.so.1
0x0000003752806840  0x00000037528243f0  Yes         /lib64/libgpgme.so.11
0x000000375f2040d0  0x000000375f211934  Yes         /lib64/libnsl.so.1
0x0000003764c036a0  0x0000003764c0ab14  Yes         /lib64/liblber-2.4.so.2
0x000000376540f060  0x000000376543d978  Yes         /lib64/libldap-2.4.so.2
0x000000374ce01130  0x000000374ce026b8  Yes         /lib64/libcompface.so.1
0x00000037560095c0  0x000000375602fb8c  Yes         /lib64/libpisock.so.9
0x000000374aa01be0  0x000000374aa05d18  Yes         /lib64/libSM.so.6
0x000000374ae04eb0  0x000000374ae12e1c  Yes         /lib64/libICE.so.6
0x00000037520031b0  0x000000375200680c  Yes         /lib64/libstartup-notification-1.so.0
0x0000003755c0a540  0x0000003755c1c594  Yes         /lib64/libdbus-glib-1.so.2
0x000000374b607890  0x000000374b630924  Yes         /lib64/libdbus-1.so.3
0x0000003744a05790  0x0000003744a10494  Yes         /lib64/libpthread.so.0
0x0000003745202260  0x000000374520554c  Yes         /lib64/librt.so.1
0x0000003747e0a910  0x0000003747e37dbc  Yes         /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
0x0000003746e19d00  0x0000003746eac9cc  Yes         /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
0x00000037446055f0  0x000000374466ca0c  Yes         /lib64/libm.so.6
0x000000374ee2a890  0x000000374ee949fc  Yes         /lib64/libetpan.so.16
0x0000003769809980  0x000000376984c278  Yes         /lib64/libcurl.so.4
0x0000003748a03dd0  0x0000003748a1cccc  Yes         /lib64/libexpat.so.1
0x00000037674189b0  0x0000003767492f2c  Yes         /lib64/libgnutls.so.26
0x000000375f607200  0x000000375f652b48  Yes         /lib64/libgcrypt.so.11
0x000000375e600960  0x000000375e600ed8  Yes         /lib64/libgpg-error.so.0
0x0000003745601f50  0x000000374560e718  Yes         /lib64/libz.so.1
0x0000003752423ae0  0x0000003752545db8  Yes         /lib64/libdb-4.8.so
0x0000003762804840  0x0000003762814504  Yes         /lib64/libsasl2.so.2
0x0000003745e029d0  0x0000003745e12138  Yes         /lib64/libgcc_s.so.1
0x000000374421ef60  0x000000374435f7a0  Yes         /lib64/libc.so.6
0x0000003757403520  0x00000037574424f8  Yes         /lib64/libfreebl3.so
0x0000003744e00ea0  0x0000003744e019e0  Yes         /lib64/libdl.so.2
0x0000003746a1dea0  0x0000003746aa4260  Yes         /lib64/libX11.so.6
0x00000037492014f0  0x0000003749203cf8  Yes         /lib64/libXfixes.so.3
0x0000003747203700  0x000000374720d7d0  Yes         /lib64/libXext.so.6
0x0000003749a01a70  0x0000003749a079e0  Yes         /lib64/libXrender.so.1
0x000000374a600b00  0x000000374a601438  Yes         /lib64/libXinerama.so.1
0x000000374a202130  0x000000374a20bfb4  Yes         /lib64/libXi.so.6
0x000000374b201830  0x000000374b205f34  Yes         /lib64/libXrandr.so.2
0x000000374ba02a80  0x000000374ba076dc  Yes         /lib64/libXcursor.so.1
0x0000003750e00c30  0x0000003750e01774  Yes         /lib64/libXcomposite.so.1
0x000000374e600b90  0x000000374e60159c  Yes         /lib64/libXdamage.so.1
0x0000003747a01950  0x0000003747a060ec  Yes         /lib64/libffi.so.5
0x0000003745a05fc0  0x0000003745a16768  Yes         /lib64/libselinux.so.1
0x00000037462039b0  0x0000003746211e1c  Yes         /lib64/libresolv.so.2
0x0000003748604fa0  0x0000003748620ae0  Yes         /lib64/libpng15.so.15
0x000000374f608d80  0x000000374f672eec  Yes         /lib64/libpixman-1.so.0
0x0000003762c030b0  0x0000003762c0b520  Yes         /lib64/libassuan.so.0
0x0000003743a00b20  0x0000003743a1a2e9  Yes         /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
0x000000375ee0a290  0x000000375ee2fb50  Yes         /lib64/libssl3.so
0x000000375fa09ca0  0x000000375fa22210  Yes         /lib64/libsmime3.so
0x000000375e218ac0  0x000000375e2fba04  Yes         /lib64/libnss3.so
0x000000375d60aa30  0x000000375d615af4  Yes         /lib64/libnssutil3.so
0x000000375da00fb0  0x000000375da01ef8  Yes         /lib64/libplds4.so
0x000000375ce014d0  0x000000375ce02bd4  Yes         /lib64/libplc4.so
0x000000375de0d250  0x000000375de2cc10  Yes         /lib64/libnspr4.so
0x0000003765801710  0x0000003765803284  Yes         /lib64/libusb-0.1.so.4
0x00000037650073c0  0x0000003765012c68  Yes         /lib64/libbluetooth.so.3
0x0000003748e016d0  0x0000003748e02d48  Yes         /lib64/libuuid.so.1
0x00000037534025f0  0x00000037534033a4  Yes         /lib64/libxcb-util.so.0
0x00000037530005c0  0x00000037530006dc  Yes         /lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1
0x00000037466099c0  0x00000037466158d8  Yes         /lib64/libxcb.so.1
0x000000374825bb50  0x00000037482c105b  Yes         /lib64/libstdc++.so.6
0x0000003763802fe0  0x00000037638074d8  Yes         /lib64/libidn.so.11
0x000000374e20ad60  0x000000374e238424  Yes         /lib64/libgssapi_krb5.so.2
0x000000374d61b640  0x000000374d693340  Yes         /lib64/libkrb5.so.3
0x000000374da04490  0x000000374da1c92c  Yes         /lib64/libk5crypto.so.3
0x000000374ca01520  0x000000374ca02114  Yes         /lib64/libcom_err.so.2
0x0000003769c053f0  0x0000003769c1ec08  Yes         /lib64/libssh2.so.1
0x0000003766c01ce0  0x0000003766c0c9e8  Yes         /lib64/libtasn1.so.3
0x0000003765c02cd0  0x0000003765c0ba6c  Yes         /lib64/libp11-kit.so.0
0x0000003762002a00  0x000000376200a588  Yes         /lib64/libusb-1.0.so.0
0x0000003743e00e80  0x0000003743e01bb0  Yes         /lib64/libXau.so.6
0x000000374de02a60  0x000000374de07eac  Yes         /lib64/libkrb5support.so.0
0x000000374d201120  0x000000374d201ac4  Yes         /lib64/libkeyutils.so.1
0x000000374ea14780  0x000000374ea46c94  Yes         /lib64/libssl.so.10
0x000000374c65ca00  0x000000374c724528  Yes         /lib64/libcrypto.so.10
0x00007feadd834d20  0x00007feadd83ecbc  Yes         /usr/lib64/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so
0x00007fead71f91b0  0x00007fead720067c  Yes         /lib64/libnss_files.so.2
0x00007fead6ff4540  0x00007fead6ff4f50  Yes         /usr/lib64/gconv/ISO8859-1.so
0x00007fead6d99b10  0x00007fead6dba6d8  Yes         /usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libclearlooks.so
0x00007fead6b946a0  0x00007fead6b947b4  Yes         /usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/modules/libpk-gtk-module.so
0x00007fead6991d00  0x00007fead6992228  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/newmail.so
0x00007fead678b500  0x00007fead678c85c  Yes         /usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-xpm.so
0x00007fead642cc10  0x00007fead642eb68  Yes         /usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/im-ibus.so
0x00007fead6195010  0x00007fead61b4820  Yes         /lib64/libibus-1.0.so.5
0x00007fead5f66930  0x00007fead5f7df98  Yes         /usr/lib64/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so
0x00007fead5d4f310  0x00007fead5d58c9c  Yes         /lib64/libgvfscommon.so.0
0x00007fead5b1bec0  0x00007fead5b3b1fc  Yes         /lib64/libbluray.so.1
0x000000375ea00ee0  0x000000375ea01814  Yes         /lib64/libutil.so.1
0x00007fead57ead70  0x00007fead58cd744  Yes         /lib64/libxml2.so.2
0x00007fead5502b10  0x00007fead550a514  Yes         /usr/lib64/sasl2/libdigestmd5.so
0x00007fead52fc220  0x00007fead52fe624  Yes         /usr/lib64/sasl2/libcrammd5.so
0x00007fead50f4960  0x00007fead50f8b44  Yes         /usr/lib64/sasl2/libgssapiv2.so
0x00007fead4eee480  0x00007fead4ef1088  Yes         /usr/lib64/sasl2/libsasldb.so
0x00007fead4b1ee50  0x00007fead4c59348  Yes         /lib64/libdb-5.2.so
0x00007fead48ed120  0x00007fead48eed44  Yes         /usr/lib64/sasl2/libanonymous.so
0x00007fead46e8120  0x00007fead46e9eb4  Yes         /usr/lib64/sasl2/liblogin.so
0x00007fead44e3130  0x00007fead44e4ef4  Yes         /usr/lib64/sasl2/libplain.so
0x00007fead3a8b7a0  0x00007fead3a8cc8c  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/attachwarner.so
0x00007fead3885e80  0x00007fead38872e8  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/att_remover.so
0x00007fead3664bc0  0x00007fead3674b10  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/notification_plugin.so
0x0000003754c02790  0x0000003754c04cbc  Yes         /lib64/libnotify.so.4
0x00007fead3454d40  0x00007fead3456200  Yes         /lib64/libcanberra-gtk.so.0
0x00000037668033c0  0x000000376680c31c  Yes         /lib64/libcanberra.so.0
0x00007fead324c0b0  0x00007fead325014c  Yes         /lib64/libvorbisfile.so.3
0x000000375b603810  0x000000375b61ad6c  Yes         /lib64/libvorbis.so.0
0x0000003758801a70  0x0000003758804138  Yes         /lib64/libogg.so.0
0x0000003766002880  0x000000376600c010  Yes         /lib64/libtdb.so.1
0x0000003761802400  0x00000037618065d4  Yes         /lib64/libltdl.so.7
0x00007fead303af10  0x00007fead3041800  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/perl_plugin.so
0x00007fead2ceda00  0x00007fead2dfc424  Yes         /usr/lib64/perl5/CORE/libperl.so
0x00007fead2ab1790  0x00007fead2ab8a9c  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/pgpcore.so
0x00007fead28a6a20  0x00007fead28a8bd8  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/pgpmime.so
0x00007fead269f730  0x00007fead26a1b68  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/pgpinline.so
0x00007fead2497d00  0x00007fead249a148  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/smime.so
0x00007fead228bd70  0x00007fead2291278  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/spamassassin.so
0x00007fead2082e40  0x00007fead208439c  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/spamreport.so
0x00007fead1e67be0  0x00007fead1e6e52c  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/tnef_parse.so
0x00007fead1c61a80  0x00007fead1c628f4  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/fetchinfo_plugin.so
0x00007fead1a56b70  0x00007fead1a5d7b8  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/pdf_viewer.so
0x00007fead182b1c0  0x00007fead1841338  Yes         /lib64/libpoppler-glib.so.8
0x0000003758c95220  0x0000003758d77300  Yes         /lib64/libpoppler.so.19
0x00007fead15e2630  0x00007fead16059fc  Yes         /lib64/liblcms.so.1
0x00007fead138ee30  0x00007fead13c1280  Yes         /lib64/libjpeg.so.62
0x0000003756804c90  0x000000375681a3e4  Yes         /lib64/libopenjpeg.so.3
0x00007fead1115ba0  0x00007fead1163eb0  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/vcalendar.so
0x00007fead06e8f30  0x00007fead06ef78c  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/archive.so
0x000000375780ed30  0x000000375786e730  Yes         /lib64/libarchive.so.12
0x0000003753c01f50  0x0000003753c05dc4  Yes         /lib64/libacl.so.1
0x00007fead04e03a0  0x00007fead04e248c  Yes         /lib64/libattr.so.1
0x00000037512030b0  0x0000003751219320  Yes         /lib64/liblzma.so.5
0x00007fead02d06f0  0x00007fead02dc2c0  Yes         /lib64/libbz2.so.1
0x00007fead00c92d0  0x00007fead00cc96c  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/fancy.so
0x00007feaca77a930  0x00007feacb825a3c  Yes         /lib64/libwebkitgtk-1.0.so.0
0x00007feac9e81820  0x00007feaca111fe4  Yes         /lib64/libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0.so.0
0x000000375a001b80  0x000000375a002ca4  Yes         /lib64/libsoup-gnome-2.4.so.1
0x00007feac9b6d1e0  0x00007feac9ba4554  Yes         /lib64/libsoup-2.4.so.1
0x0000003753802aa0  0x0000003753806310  Yes         /lib64/libgailutil.so.18
0x000000375ac07e90  0x000000375ac0f17c  Yes         /lib64/libgeoclue.so.0
0x00000037690030e0  0x000000376900839c  Yes         /lib64/libgstapp-0.10.so.0
0x000000375a409ea0  0x000000375a428824  Yes         /lib64/libgstaudio-0.10.so.0
0x00007feac994ad40  0x00007feac9951454  Yes         /lib64/libgstfft-0.10.so.0
0x0000003768804f80  0x000000376880b044  Yes         /lib64/libgstinterfaces-0.10.so.0
0x0000003768c0a4d0  0x0000003768c1838c  Yes         /lib64/libgstpbutils-0.10.so.0
0x0000003769405480  0x0000003769414b40  Yes         /lib64/libgstvideo-0.10.so.0
0x0000003767c0af50  0x0000003767c3f880  Yes         /lib64/libgstbase-0.10.so.0
0x0000003766424c60  0x00000037664a168c  Yes         /lib64/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0
0x000000376840aa90  0x000000376842f1e4  Yes         /lib64/libxslt.so.1
0x000000376021ade0  0x0000003760261bb0  Yes         /lib64/libGL.so.1
0x000000376240a2e0  0x0000003762486860  Yes         /lib64/libsqlite3.so.0
0x00000037554680b0  0x000000375556cba4  Yes         /lib64/libicui18n.so.48
0x00000037550480b0  0x00000037550fd574  Yes         /lib64/libicuuc.so.48
0x00007feac85da570  0x00007feac85da670  Yes (*)     /lib64/libicudata.so.48
0x0000003758413170  0x000000375844f28c  Yes         /lib64/libXt.so.6
0x0000003752c07960  0x0000003752c193b4  Yes         /lib64/libgnome-keyring.so.0
0x000000376800bed0  0x00000037680585a8  Yes         /lib64/liborc-0.4.so.0
0x000000375fe0e8c0  0x000000375fe22058  Yes         /lib64/libglapi.so.0
0x0000003760609f70  0x00000037606101b8  Yes         /lib64/libxcb-glx.so.0
0x000000375ca00f60  0x000000375ca039ac  Yes         /lib64/libXxf86vm.so.1
0x000000375d203190  0x000000375d207fc4  Yes         /lib64/libdrm.so.2
0x00007feac83d7c00  0x00007feac83d8830  Yes         /lib64/libnss_mdns4_minimal.so.2
0x00007feac81d10d0  0x00007feac81d48c4  Yes         /lib64/libnss_dns.so.2
(*): Shared library is missing debugging information.
$1 = 0x7feadda70000 ""
$2 = 0x0
rax            0x0	0
rbx            0x0	0
rcx            0xffffffffffffffff	-1
rdx            0x6	6
rsi            0x2ab9	10937
rdi            0x2ab9	10937
rbp            0x7fff10944120	0x7fff10944120
rsp            0x7fff109436e8	0x7fff109436e8
r8             0x0	0
r9             0xd	13
r10            0x8	8
r11            0x202	514
r12            0x1e	30
r13            0x7	7
r14            0x7	7
r15            0x7fff10943890	140733471537296
rip            0x3744235935	0x3744235935 <__GI_raise+53>
eflags         0x202	[ IF ]
cs             0x33	51
ss             0x2b	43
ds             0x0	0
es             0x0	0
fs             0x0	0
gs             0x0	0
Dump of assembler code for function __GI_raise:
   0x0000003744235900 <+0>:	mov    %fs:0x2d4,%eax
   0x0000003744235908 <+8>:	mov    %fs:0x2d0,%esi
   0x0000003744235910 <+16>:	test   %esi,%esi
   0x0000003744235912 <+18>:	jne    0x3744235940 <__GI_raise+64>
   0x0000003744235914 <+20>:	mov    $0xba,%eax
   0x0000003744235919 <+25>:	syscall 
   0x000000374423591b <+27>:	mov    %eax,%esi
   0x000000374423591d <+29>:	mov    %eax,%fs:0x2d0
   0x0000003744235925 <+37>:	movslq %edi,%rdx
   0x0000003744235928 <+40>:	movslq %esi,%rsi
   0x000000374423592b <+43>:	movslq %eax,%rdi
   0x000000374423592e <+46>:	mov    $0xea,%eax
   0x0000003744235933 <+51>:	syscall 
=> 0x0000003744235935 <+53>:	cmp    $0xfffffffffffff000,%rax
   0x000000374423593b <+59>:	ja     0x374423594f <__GI_raise+79>
   0x000000374423593d <+61>:	repz retq 
   0x000000374423593f <+63>:	nop
   0x0000003744235940 <+64>:	test   %eax,%eax
   0x0000003744235942 <+66>:	jg     0x3744235925 <__GI_raise+37>
   0x0000003744235944 <+68>:	test   $0x7fffffff,%eax
   0x0000003744235949 <+73>:	je     0x3744235960 <__GI_raise+96>
   0x000000374423594b <+75>:	neg    %eax
   0x000000374423594d <+77>:	jmp    0x3744235925 <__GI_raise+37>
   0x000000374423594f <+79>:	mov    0x37a4da(%rip),%rdx        # 0x37445afe30
   0x0000003744235956 <+86>:	neg    %eax
   0x0000003744235958 <+88>:	mov    %eax,%fs:(%rdx)
   0x000000374423595b <+91>:	or     $0xffffffffffffffff,%rax
   0x000000374423595f <+95>:	retq   
   0x0000003744235960 <+96>:	mov    %esi,%eax
   0x0000003744235962 <+98>:	jmp    0x3744235925 <__GI_raise+37>
End of assembler dump.

I think that the previously posted claws.log (which is now
claws.log.bak) contains the last recorded thing which is this:

[12:38:19] NNTP> DATE 
[12:38:19] ** warning: NNTP connection to news.zen.co.uk:119 has been disconnected.
[12:38:19] * message: Account 'Brian news': Connecting to NNTP server: news.zen.co.uk:119...
[12:38:19] NNTP< 200 Zen Internet NNRP reader02.nrc01.news.zen.net.uk Service Ready (posting ok) 
[12:38:19] NNTP> MODE READER 
[12:38:19] NNTP< 200 Zen Internet NNRP reader02.nrc01.news.zen.net.uk Service Ready (posting ok) 
[12:38:19] NNTP> GROUP cam.misc 
[12:38:19] NNTP< 211 1263 467929 469191 cam.misc 
[12:38:19] NNTP> GROUP cam.transport 
[12:38:19] NNTP< 211 1068 119568 120635 cam.transport 
[12:38:19] NNTP> GROUP uk.radio.amateur 
[12:38:19] NNTP< 211 6122 685354 691475 uk.radio.amateur 
[12:38:19] NNTP> GROUP zen.announce 
[12:38:20] NNTP< 211 1 15 15 zen.announce 
[12:38:20] * message: getting xover 15 - 15 in zen.announce...
[12:38:20] NNTP> XOVER 15-15 
[12:38:20] NNTP< 224 data follows 
[12:38:20] NNTP< . 
[12:38:20] NNTP> XHDR newsgroups -1 
[12:38:20] NNTP< 221 newsgroups data follows 
[12:38:20] NNTP< . 
[12:38:20] NNTP> XHDR to -1 
[12:38:20] NNTP< 221 to data follows 
[12:38:20] NNTP< . 
[12:38:20] NNTP> XHDR cc -1 
[12:38:20] NNTP< 221 cc data follows 
[12:38:20] NNTP< . 
[12:38:20] NNTP> GROUP zen.support 
[12:38:20] NNTP< 211 1 11117 11117 zen.support 
[12:38:20] ** warning: NNTP connection to news.zen.co.uk:119 has been disconnected.

-- 

Brian Morrison

                "I am not young enough to know everything"
                                                          Oscar Wilde


From freebsd at grem.de  Thu Dec  6 21:46:17 2012
From: freebsd at grem.de (Michael Gmelin)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 21:46:17 +0100
Subject: [Users] Counting characters
In-Reply-To: <20121206144728.72a8eb8b@scorpio>
References: <20121206110540.2e833659@scorpio>
	<20121206162009.6887924d@digimed.co.uk>
	<20121206130410.32e07c56@scorpio>
	<20121206195729.3cf109fb@bsd64.grem.de>
	<20121206144728.72a8eb8b@scorpio>
Message-ID: <20121206214617.7e57c4e0@bsd64.grem.de>



On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 14:47:28 -0500
Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 19:57:29 +0100
> Michael Gmelin articulated:
> 
> > Or you could just write your SMS/Text messages in external editor
> > (emacs, vi, gedit, whatever) that provides such a functionality
> > (Shift-Ctrl-X by default).
> 
> I realize that there are other solutions; however, in keeping with my
> KISS principal, I was just trying to do it as painlessly as possible.
> In any case, I only actually need this functionality a few times a
> month, mainly because I am not near my cell phone. A built-n SMS
> function in claws-mail would be really cool, but hardly a priority.
> 

Using a text editor I'm already familiar with and that's
already installed on my machine through an in-built function in Claws
seems pretty painless to me (and is one of the features I really like
about Claws).

If you never use an external editor with Claws then it probably
isn't of course. One size doesn't fit all ;)


-- 
Michael Gmelin


From edwardp at mcom.com  Fri Dec  7 00:27:10 2012
From: edwardp at mcom.com (edwardp at mcom.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 18:27:10 -0500
Subject: [Users] E-Mail Printing under FreeBSD
Message-ID: <20121206182710.1003a1f4@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>

I have been using FreeBSD on-and-off for the past couple of weeks (by
swapping hard drives, Linux on one, FreeBSD (as PC-BSD 9.0) on the
other).

When I printed an e-mail from the FreeBSD port of Claws, the first line
at the top of the page was chopped off.

I'm curious to know if this is a FreeBSD problem or perhaps a problem
with the Claws port.  The printer is an HP DeskJet 932C, HPLIP (also
installed) provides full support for this model.

I was able to (somewhat) solve a printing issue with the SeaMonkey (SM) 
suite, printing web pages by adjusting one of the right margin settings
in the configuration file, however the URL which should normally print
at the upper right of the page with SM and Firefox, does not print in
with the FreeBSD port of SM, so this could be an altogether different
issue.  

Thanks in advance..


From jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com  Fri Dec  7 03:17:32 2012
From: jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com (Jeremy Schneider)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 21:17:32 -0500
Subject: [Users] notifications and unity
Message-ID: <20121206211732.59a3deb8@jeremy-nb>

Quick question -

I'm using latest stable ubuntu precise 12.04 with unity (2d) and just
switched to claws today.  i'm having some difficulty with
notifications, and i'm wondering if anyone else out there has quick
pointers to save me some time - or if i'm just missing any obvious
configuration options.

i saw already saw this old bug report which tells me that something
should be working:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2453

i also followed these steps earlier on although they didn't originally
help:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1737589

i was originally using claws 3.8.0 from the ubuntu repos but Woody on
IRC pointed me to the ppa.  after upgrading to 3.9.0 claws
finally appears in the unity notification menu - but the list of
accounts underneath it seems to come and go, i haven't figured out yet
why. also i still haven't gotten any actual notification balloons or
the blue notification menu icon on new emails. (sending myself a test
email then clicking "get mail" to force a check.)  i'm using IMAP with
a gmail account.

anyone else who has gotten claws working with unity?  am i skipping
something obvious?  any tips are appreciated.

Thanks
-Jeremy


-- 
Jeremy Schneider
Chicago



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec  7 06:58:21 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2012 06:58:21 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2668] claws freezes whenever it encounters POP3 error
 while hidden in notification area
In-Reply-To: <bug-2668-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2668-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121207055821.35FA0853F0@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2668


Abhay S. Kushwaha <clawsmail at kushwaha.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |WORKSFORME




--- Comment #1 from Abhay S. Kushwaha  2012-12-07 06:58:20 ---
Have tried this using latest version on Windows 7 and Windows XP, and can't
replicate this.

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From ricardo at mones.org  Fri Dec  7 09:38:52 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 09:38:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] installation "incomplete folder" SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <20121205154046.7ff6e6e6@toshiba2012.hsd1.il.comcast.net>
References: <mailman.3.1354705202.3234.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
	<20121205154046.7ff6e6e6@toshiba2012.hsd1.il.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20121207083852.GB10614@trasgu>

On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 03:40:46PM -0600, Charles Blair wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 12:00:02 +0100
> <users-request at lists.claws-mail.org> wrote:
> 
>  
> > >   I'm sorry that I don't know how to
> > > post follow-ups within a single thread (I'm receiving
> > > digests, if that makes a difference).  Thanks to
> > > anyone who has the patience to read the detailed
> > > account below.  
> 
> >   Have you tried to select the text you want to reply and hit reply
> > button?
>  
>    I am trying this right now!  If it reaches
> the mailing list in an appropriate way, thank
> you very much.
> 
>    More important, clicking the icon at the
> bottom brought claws-mail itself to life.
> Again, thank you!

  You're welcome. I'm glad it was so simple to fix :)
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but 
  that's not why we do it.                            Richard Feynman

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From ricardo at mones.org  Fri Dec  7 09:56:12 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 09:56:12 +0100
Subject: [Users] Recursively mark as read?
In-Reply-To: <20121206103132.79d118e8@omega>
References: <20121206103132.79d118e8@omega>
Message-ID: <20121207085611.GC10614@trasgu>

On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 10:31:32AM +0100, Nicolas Iselin wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> I was looking for a function to recursively mark all mails as read
> starting in a certain folder. I found the following bug description:
> 
>   http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1941
> 
> I read that the patch was applied to 3.7.10, I am using Claws 3.8.0 but
> don't have that function. Am I missing something?

  You read that wrong. The reporter says the patch applies to that
version, unfortunately he made a misleading typo there. But patch
was never committed to sources, you can see report it's still open.
 
> Do I simply have to go down the following route?
> 
>   http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.mail.sylpheed.claws.general/45203

  That's an already working solution, yep.
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but 
  that's not why we do it.                            Richard Feynman

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From not0read0765 at yopmail.com  Fri Dec  7 10:01:07 2012
From: not0read0765 at yopmail.com (Olive)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 10:01:07 +0100
Subject: [Users] E-Mail Printing under FreeBSD
References: <20121206182710.1003a1f4@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20121207100107.49520c98@pcolivier.chezmoi.net>

Le 06/12/12, edwardp at mcom.com a écrit :
> I have been using FreeBSD on-and-off for the past couple of weeks (by
> swapping hard drives, Linux on one, FreeBSD (as PC-BSD 9.0) on the
> other).
> 
> When I printed an e-mail from the FreeBSD port of Claws, the first
> line at the top of the page was chopped off.
> 
> I'm curious to know if this is a FreeBSD problem or perhaps a problem
> with the Claws port.  The printer is an HP DeskJet 932C, HPLIP (also
> installed) provides full support for this model.
> 
> I was able to (somewhat) solve a printing issue with the SeaMonkey
> (SM) suite, printing web pages by adjusting one of the right margin
> settings in the configuration file, however the URL which should
> normally print at the upper right of the page with SM and Firefox,
> does not print in with the FreeBSD port of SM, so this could be an
> altogether different issue.  
> 
> Thanks in advance..

I do not know the answer but here are a few things you should do to
figure out the problem.

First print to a file; and see the result (it should print to a PDF or
PS file) with a PDF viewer. Then print the file with the lpr command (I
am assuming you use CUPS). These steps will normally reveal if
claws-mail or your printing system is in cause and tell you where to
investigate. I suspect it is a problem with your printing system. Try
to look at the web (not necessarily in relation to FreeBSD).

Olive 





From not0read0765 at yopmail.com  Fri Dec  7 10:22:30 2012
From: not0read0765 at yopmail.com (Olive)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 10:22:30 +0100
Subject: [Users] Message deleted when moving out of Spam in Gmail
Message-ID: <20121207102230.4dd22572@pcolivier.chezmoi.net>

I noticed the following problem. If I move a message out the of the
Spam folder in Gmail (the folder where Gmail put messages that it
identifies as spam), then the message is completely deleted from Gmail.
The workaround is to copy (instead of move) the message out of the Spam
folder (which cause Gmail to remove it from Spam, this is the expected
behaviour of Gmail). The problem is rather recent and I am not sure who
is in cause but I have not this problem with Thunderbird.

Olive



From colin at colino.net  Fri Dec  7 10:37:56 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 10:37:56 +0100
Subject: [Users] Further crash in cvs43,
 unsure if this is a repeat of the cvs40 crash
In-Reply-To: <20121206195546.67b218b5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20121206195546.67b218b5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20121207103756.386da81a@colin>

On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 19:55:46 +0000, Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk>
wrote:

> Here's the backtrace...

That's the same... Can you upgrade to cvs44? and if it keeps crashing,
keep reporting :)

-- 
Colin


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec  7 12:02:57 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri,  7 Dec 2012 12:02:57 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2668] claws freezes whenever it encounters POP3 error
 while hidden in notification area
In-Reply-To: <bug-2668-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2668-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121207110257.93BFD853F0@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2668


j.blechta at tiscali.cz changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|RESOLVED                    |REOPENED
         Resolution|WORKSFORME                  |




--- Comment #2 from j.blechta  2012-12-07 12:02:57 ---
You need to have an existing SSL POP3 connection which fails. It does not
happen without SSL.

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From jerry at seibercom.net  Fri Dec  7 12:56:04 2012
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 06:56:04 -0500
Subject: [Users] E-Mail Printing under FreeBSD
In-Reply-To: <20121207100107.49520c98@pcolivier.chezmoi.net>
References: <20121206182710.1003a1f4@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121207100107.49520c98@pcolivier.chezmoi.net>
Message-ID: <20121207065604.3e440cf8@scorpio>

On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 10:01:07 +0100
Olive articulated:

> Le 06/12/12, edwardp at mcom.com a écrit :
> > I have been using FreeBSD on-and-off for the past couple of weeks
> > (by swapping hard drives, Linux on one, FreeBSD (as PC-BSD 9.0) on
> > the other).
> > 
> > When I printed an e-mail from the FreeBSD port of Claws, the first
> > line at the top of the page was chopped off.
> > 
> > I'm curious to know if this is a FreeBSD problem or perhaps a
> > problem with the Claws port.  The printer is an HP DeskJet 932C,
> > HPLIP (also installed) provides full support for this model.
> > 
> > I was able to (somewhat) solve a printing issue with the SeaMonkey
> > (SM) suite, printing web pages by adjusting one of the right margin
> > settings in the configuration file, however the URL which should
> > normally print at the upper right of the page with SM and Firefox,
> > does not print in with the FreeBSD port of SM, so this could be an
> > altogether different issue.  
> > 
> > Thanks in advance..
> 
> I do not know the answer but here are a few things you should do to
> figure out the problem.
> 
> First print to a file; and see the result (it should print to a PDF or
> PS file) with a PDF viewer. Then print the file with the lpr command
> (I am assuming you use CUPS). These steps will normally reveal if
> claws-mail or your printing system is in cause and tell you where to
> investigate. I suspect it is a problem with your printing system. Try
> to look at the web (not necessarily in relation to FreeBSD).

I use FreeBSD also. If I attempt to print a page from claws-mail and
choose my printer as the device to print to, only a blank page is
ejected from my printer. However, if I choose the "LPR" option, all is
well. I have tried to get help on the FreeBSD forum but without any
positive results. Good luck getting it figured out.

-- 
Jerry ♔

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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Fri Dec  7 13:16:06 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 12:16:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] Further crash in cvs43,
 unsure if this is a repeat of the cvs40 crash
In-Reply-To: <20121207103756.386da81a@colin>
References: <20121206195546.67b218b5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121207103756.386da81a@colin>
Message-ID: <20121207121606.00003e0a@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 10:37:56 +0100
Colin Leroy wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 19:55:46 +0000, Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk>
> wrote:
> 
> > Here's the backtrace...
> 
> That's the same... Can you upgrade to cvs44? and if it keeps crashing,
> keep reporting :)
> 

Will do, it will probably be a day or so before I do it though.

-- 

Brian Morrison


From rwmaillists at googlemail.com  Fri Dec  7 13:46:45 2012
From: rwmaillists at googlemail.com (RW)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 12:46:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] E-Mail Printing under FreeBSD
References: <20121206182710.1003a1f4@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121207100107.49520c98@pcolivier.chezmoi.net>
Message-ID: <20121207124645.0f2950b4@gumby.homeunix.com>

On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 10:01:07 +0100
Olive wrote:

> Le 06/12/12, edwardp at mcom.com a écrit :
> > I have been using FreeBSD on-and-off for the past couple of weeks
> > (by swapping hard drives, Linux on one, FreeBSD (as PC-BSD 9.0) on
> > the other).
> > 
> > When I printed an e-mail from the FreeBSD port of Claws, the first
> > line at the top of the page was chopped off.
> > 
> > I'm curious to know if this is a FreeBSD problem or perhaps a
> > problem with the Claws port.  The printer is an HP DeskJet 932C,
> > HPLIP (also installed) provides full support for this model.
> > 
> > I was able to (somewhat) solve a printing issue with the SeaMonkey
> > (SM) suite, printing web pages by adjusting one of the right margin
> > settings in the configuration file, however the URL which should
> > normally print at the upper right of the page with SM and Firefox,
> > does not print in with the FreeBSD port of SM, so this could be an
> > altogether different issue.  
> > 
> > Thanks in advance..
> 
> I do not know the answer but here are a few things you should do to
> figure out the problem.
> 
> First print to a file; and see the result (it should print to a PDF or
> PS file) with a PDF viewer. Then print the file with the lpr command
> (I am assuming you use CUPS). 



The port print/alignmargins contains a test page specifically for this
purpose.  And there is a script that generates a correction to add to
the ppd file. 

It only partially worked for me; I can control the offset, but not the
scaling. 




From rwmaillists at googlemail.com  Fri Dec  7 15:06:33 2012
From: rwmaillists at googlemail.com (RW)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:06:33 +0000
Subject: [Users] Interpretation of  ~header ...
Message-ID: <20121207140633.16f96a55@gumby.homeunix.com>


In searches I would expect that in 

    ~header foo matchcase bar 

the ~ means the logical complement of the header test. And it is until
one tests on headers that occur more than once in the same email. In
this case:

    header received matchcase bar

means true if any received header matches bar but
   
   ~header received matchcase bar 

seems to be true if any received header doesn't contain bar (rather
than the complement, which would be: no received header contain bar).

IMO this is not only perverse, but close to useless for practical
filtering.





From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Fri Dec  7 15:56:18 2012
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 09:56:18 -0500
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2668] claws freezes whenever it encounters POP3
 error while hidden in notification area
In-Reply-To: <20121207110257.93BFD853F0@mx.colino.net>
References: <bug-2668-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
	<20121207110257.93BFD853F0@mx.colino.net>
Message-ID: <20121207095618.00004213@unknown>

On Fri,  7 Dec 2012 12:02:57 +0100 (CET)
noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:

> --- Comment #2 from j.blechta  2012-12-07 12:02:57 ---
> You need to have an existing SSL POP3 connection which fails. It does
> not happen without SSL.

This sounds similar to cases where an error occurs and the main UI is
blocked until the notification dialog is closed. Does alt-tab give you
the chance to raise the notification dialog to the top of the window
stack?

-- 
Rich P.


From not0read0765 at yopmail.com  Fri Dec  7 16:27:28 2012
From: not0read0765 at yopmail.com (Olive)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:27:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] E-Mail Printing under FreeBSD
References: <20121206182710.1003a1f4@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121207100107.49520c98@pcolivier.chezmoi.net>
	<20121207065604.3e440cf8@scorpio>
Message-ID: <20121207162728.70ed65a5@pcolivier.chezmoi.net>

Le 07/12/12, Jerry a écrit :
> On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 10:01:07 +0100
> Olive articulated:
> 
> > Le 06/12/12, edwardp at mcom.com a écrit :
> > > I have been using FreeBSD on-and-off for the past couple of weeks
> > > (by swapping hard drives, Linux on one, FreeBSD (as PC-BSD 9.0) on
> > > the other).
> > > 
> > > When I printed an e-mail from the FreeBSD port of Claws, the first
> > > line at the top of the page was chopped off.
> > > 
> > > I'm curious to know if this is a FreeBSD problem or perhaps a
> > > problem with the Claws port.  The printer is an HP DeskJet 932C,
> > > HPLIP (also installed) provides full support for this model.
> > > 
> > > I was able to (somewhat) solve a printing issue with the SeaMonkey
> > > (SM) suite, printing web pages by adjusting one of the right
> > > margin settings in the configuration file, however the URL which
> > > should normally print at the upper right of the page with SM and
> > > Firefox, does not print in with the FreeBSD port of SM, so this
> > > could be an altogether different issue.  
> > > 
> > > Thanks in advance..
> > 
> > I do not know the answer but here are a few things you should do to
> > figure out the problem.
> > 
> > First print to a file; and see the result (it should print to a PDF
> > or PS file) with a PDF viewer. Then print the file with the lpr
> > command (I am assuming you use CUPS). These steps will normally
> > reveal if claws-mail or your printing system is in cause and tell
> > you where to investigate. I suspect it is a problem with your
> > printing system. Try to look at the web (not necessarily in
> > relation to FreeBSD).
> 
> I use FreeBSD also. If I attempt to print a page from claws-mail and
> choose my printer as the device to print to, only a blank page is
> ejected from my printer. However, if I choose the "LPR" option, all is
> well. I have tried to get help on the FreeBSD forum but without any
> positive results. Good luck getting it figured out.
> 

The lpr oprions sends by default a Postscript file while the direct
print send a PDF (if the behaviour is the same as in the recent
version of GNU/Linux). I have had problem with pdf printing too. First
try to print with your printer switched off; then go
to /var/spool/cups and find the generated file (it should be a pdf) and
cancel the print. Copy this file out of the directory and try to print
it to see what happens. You can try also to put cups in debug mode to
see exactly what command are called or try to force CUPS to use the
Postscript backend (the files to edit are the *.convs file).

Olive




From jerry at seibercom.net  Fri Dec  7 17:07:38 2012
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 11:07:38 -0500
Subject: [Users] E-Mail Printing under FreeBSD
In-Reply-To: <20121207162728.70ed65a5@pcolivier.chezmoi.net>
References: <20121206182710.1003a1f4@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121207100107.49520c98@pcolivier.chezmoi.net>
	<20121207065604.3e440cf8@scorpio>
	<20121207162728.70ed65a5@pcolivier.chezmoi.net>
Message-ID: <20121207110738.78752ab5@scorpio>

On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:27:28 +0100
Olive articulated:

> The lpr oprions sends by default a Postscript file while the direct
> print send a PDF (if the behaviour is the same as in the recent
> version of GNU/Linux). I have had problem with pdf printing too. First
> try to print with your printer switched off; then go
> to /var/spool/cups and find the generated file (it should be a pdf)
> and cancel the print. Copy this file out of the directory and try to
> print it to see what happens. You can try also to put cups in debug
> mode to see exactly what command are called or try to force CUPS to
> use the Postscript backend (the files to edit are the *.convs file).

Sorry, no such file. a file named: "0b78350cd4ffe" was created in the
"/var/spool/cups/tmp" directory though.

-- 
Jerry ♔

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec  7 17:14:38 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:14:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] Interpretation of  ~header ...
In-Reply-To: <20121207140633.16f96a55@gumby.homeunix.com>
References: <20121207140633.16f96a55@gumby.homeunix.com>
Message-ID: <20121207161438.77c96e77@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:06:33 +0000
RW <rwmaillists at googlemail.com> wrote: 

>     header received matchcase bar
> 
> means true if any received header matches bar but
>    
>    ~header received matchcase bar 
> 
> seems to be true if any received header doesn't contain bar (rather
> than the complement, which would be: no received header contain
> bar).

The GUI makes it clear what it does.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec  7 17:17:21 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:17:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?b?R2FyYmxlZCDFoMSQxb3EhsSMIMWhxJHFvsSHxI0sICB3?=
 =?utf-8?q?hy_=28my_guess=29=2C_but_how_to_fix_it=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <20121206154416.2e0541d7@at8-g250.exdeowg>
References: <20121206154416.2e0541d7@at8-g250.exdeowg>
Message-ID: <20121207161721.2a9c029a@thewildbeast>

On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 15:44:16 +0100
Miroslav Rovis <m.rovis at inet.hr> wrote: 

> If anyone has ideas on this, they are welcome.
> On my part, I'll go and study claws and it's manual, and see if I
> come up with something.

It's probably either your system or the particular message in
question. Hard to say without access to either.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From not0read0765 at yopmail.com  Fri Dec  7 17:16:51 2012
From: not0read0765 at yopmail.com (Olive)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 17:16:51 +0100
Subject: [Users] E-Mail Printing under FreeBSD
References: <20121206182710.1003a1f4@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121207100107.49520c98@pcolivier.chezmoi.net>
	<20121207065604.3e440cf8@scorpio>
	<20121207162728.70ed65a5@pcolivier.chezmoi.net>
	<20121207110738.78752ab5@scorpio>
Message-ID: <20121207171651.352429d6@pcolivier.chezmoi.net>

Le 07/12/12, Jerry a écrit :
> On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:27:28 +0100
> Olive articulated:
> 
> > The lpr oprions sends by default a Postscript file while the direct
> > print send a PDF (if the behaviour is the same as in the recent
> > version of GNU/Linux). I have had problem with pdf printing too.
> > First try to print with your printer switched off; then go
> > to /var/spool/cups and find the generated file (it should be a pdf)
> > and cancel the print. Copy this file out of the directory and try to
> > print it to see what happens. You can try also to put cups in debug
> > mode to see exactly what command are called or try to force CUPS to
> > use the Postscript backend (the files to edit are the *.convs file).
> 
> Sorry, no such file. a file named: "0b78350cd4ffe" was created in the
> "/var/spool/cups/tmp" directory though.
> 

The files will not have the *.pdf or *.ps extension, there will have
filename as such: d00878-00 and will be deleted after printing (this is
wy you have to physically switch your printer off, to prevent deletion).
According to the installation, the files can well be
in /var/spool/cups/tmp or so; try to identify a ps or pdf file with the
file command. 

Olive




From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec  7 17:24:16 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:24:16 +0000
Subject: [Users] install "incomplete mailbox" failure (continued)
In-Reply-To: <20121205090745.GA10614@trasgu>
References: <50bedab8.0387e50a.7733.ffffe290SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
	<20121205090745.GA10614@trasgu>
Message-ID: <20121207162416.60f29ef1@thewildbeast>

On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 10:07:45 +0100
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote: 

>   Is it using standard ports? Otherwise you should add :nnn after
> server name, where nnn is the port number the IMAP server uses.
>   Same applies for outgoing server, in case it's needed.

The port can, of course, be set on the Advanced page of the
preferences.

> >   If I click on the folder and click "Rebuild folder tree"
> > then click on "continue?" nothing seems to happen.
> > 
> >   If I then go to "Tools" and "Network Log," there is
> > the one line
> > 
> >    Network Manager: network is offline.  
>  
>   Yep, that's the probable cause of all of what you're describing.
> NM was not very reliable, and in fact I stopped to use it
> completely. See http://bugs.debian.org/661334 for example.
> 
>   Click the little blue icon on the left of the account selector at
> the bottom right corner of the screen to put it online, then try
> rebuilding folder tree.

There's the hidden pref, 'use_networkmanager', which could be set to 0
also.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From rwmaillists at googlemail.com  Fri Dec  7 17:29:39 2012
From: rwmaillists at googlemail.com (RW)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:29:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] Interpretation of  ~header ...
References: <20121207140633.16f96a55@gumby.homeunix.com>
	<20121207161438.77c96e77@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20121207162939.266d3ea0@gumby.homeunix.com>

On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:14:38 +0000
Paul wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:06:33 +0000
> RW <rwmaillists at googlemail.com> wrote: 
> 
> >     header received matchcase bar
> > 
> > means true if any received header matches bar but
> >    
> >    ~header received matchcase bar 
> > 
> > seems to be true if any received header doesn't contain bar (rather
> > than the complement, which would be: no received header contain
> > bar).
> 
> The GUI makes it clear what it does.
>
No it doesn't. It doesn't say anything about how repeated headers are
handled. 

In any case, even if it did, the behaviour isn't sensible.



From jerry at seibercom.net  Fri Dec  7 18:35:51 2012
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 12:35:51 -0500
Subject: [Users] E-Mail Printing under FreeBSD
In-Reply-To: <20121207171651.352429d6@pcolivier.chezmoi.net>
References: <20121206182710.1003a1f4@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121207100107.49520c98@pcolivier.chezmoi.net>
	<20121207065604.3e440cf8@scorpio>
	<20121207162728.70ed65a5@pcolivier.chezmoi.net>
	<20121207110738.78752ab5@scorpio>
	<20121207171651.352429d6@pcolivier.chezmoi.net>
Message-ID: <20121207123551.01dc5bf6@scorpio>

On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 17:16:51 +0100
Olive articulated:

> Le 07/12/12, Jerry a écrit :
> > On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:27:28 +0100
> > Olive articulated:
> > 
> > > The lpr oprions sends by default a Postscript file while the
> > > direct print send a PDF (if the behaviour is the same as in the
> > > recent version of GNU/Linux). I have had problem with pdf
> > > printing too. First try to print with your printer switched off;
> > > then go to /var/spool/cups and find the generated file (it should
> > > be a pdf) and cancel the print. Copy this file out of the
> > > directory and try to print it to see what happens. You can try
> > > also to put cups in debug mode to see exactly what command are
> > > called or try to force CUPS to use the Postscript backend (the
> > > files to edit are the *.convs file).
> > 
> > Sorry, no such file. a file named: "0b78350cd4ffe" was created in
> > the "/var/spool/cups/tmp" directory though.
> > 
> 
> The files will not have the *.pdf or *.ps extension, there will have
> filename as such: d00878-00 and will be deleted after printing (this
> is wy you have to physically switch your printer off, to prevent
> deletion). According to the installation, the files can well be
> in /var/spool/cups/tmp or so; try to identify a ps or pdf file with
> the file command. 

The actual file is located here:
http://www.seibercom.net/logs/cm-print-job

I don't think it is being transmitted correctly. It seems as if CUPS is
using "PJL". I have to look into this further.

-- 
Jerry ♔

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From not0read0765 at yopmail.com  Fri Dec  7 18:57:14 2012
From: not0read0765 at yopmail.com (Olive)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:57:14 +0100
Subject: [Users] E-Mail Printing under FreeBSD
References: <20121206182710.1003a1f4@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121207100107.49520c98@pcolivier.chezmoi.net>
	<20121207065604.3e440cf8@scorpio>
	<20121207162728.70ed65a5@pcolivier.chezmoi.net>
	<20121207110738.78752ab5@scorpio>
	<20121207171651.352429d6@pcolivier.chezmoi.net>
	<20121207123551.01dc5bf6@scorpio>
Message-ID: <20121207185714.216f7352@pcolivier.chezmoi.net>

> The actual file is located here:
> http://www.seibercom.net/logs/cm-print-job
> 
> I don't think it is being transmitted correctly. It seems as if CUPS
> is using "PJL". I have to look into this further.
> 

Enable Logging in CUPS, and check the log. You will see the whole list
of commands involved. From that you can beginning to debug. I do not
know how it is configured in FreeBSD but on Linux, this si typically

Application send a PDF or PS -> simple PDF -> CUPS Raster -> printer
dependent File -> Printer

Olive





From colin at colino.net  Fri Dec  7 20:11:16 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 20:11:16 +0100
Subject: [Users] Action in Windows doesn't react
In-Reply-To: <CABbS4XoSYac2M5gECirfPea3KJ8Qts2=ya6vN-cO-N7pPToNfg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABbS4XoSYac2M5gECirfPea3KJ8Qts2=ya6vN-cO-N7pPToNfg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20121207201116.2e0369e1@mike>

On 05 December 2012 at 23h07, Egbert Bouwman wrote:

Hi, 

> > what's possible is that actions have bugs in Windows...
> > I'll check that tomorrow.  
> 
> Depending on the results I can decide how to go on:
> 
> - go on searching for my mistakes
> - do nothing, just wait
> - submit a bug report.

Sorry about not replying earlier. In fact any action using pipes under
Windows is silently unsupported. Sadly the fork/pipe/dup/etc soup under
the hood of these actions is highly OS-dependant. (And portability will
benefit using a rewrite with g_spawn_*, but I didn't look at that yet,
that seems rather painful :)

-- 
Colin
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From m.rovis at inet.hr  Fri Dec  7 20:32:32 2012
From: m.rovis at inet.hr (Miroslav Rovis)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 20:32:32 +0100
Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?b?R2FyYmxlZCDFoMSQxb3EhsSMIMWhxJHFvsSHxI0sICB3?=
 =?utf-8?q?hy_=28my_guess=29=2C_but_how_to_fix_it=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <20121207161721.2a9c029a@thewildbeast>
References: <20121206154416.2e0541d7@at8-g250.exdeowg>
	<20121207161721.2a9c029a@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20121207203232.210f65ea@at8-g250-b.exdeowg>

On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:17:21 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 15:44:16 +0100
> Miroslav Rovis <m.rovis at inet.hr> wrote: 
> 
> > If anyone has ideas on this, they are welcome.
> > On my part, I'll go and study claws and it's manual, and see if I
> > come up with something.
> 
> It's probably either your system or the particular message in
> question. Hard to say without access to either.

Sure. Access would make it easy for someone knowledgeable. I have
access to all my data but can't figure out enough about it. :-)
Leaves me a little scared :-(
But not entirely true that the particular message could be at the issue.
Partially true only. Because at least two were, so plural, not singular.

And they were, past tense, because there's a "Claws-mail, garbled ŠĐŽĆČ
2". video coming, not immediately because they choke my connection to
the internet, but is coming.
In that part 2 it'll be apparent how the problem vanished...

But let's deal with what we have.

"Claws-mail, garbled ŠĐŽĆČ and why"
http://youtu.be/EYcQzzSeU5w
I just posted underneath the text:
At 0:50 and 1:50, two messages, same garbled effect.

The system is Gentoo,
# uname -r
3.6.8-hardened-121203_1300
#
updated pretty regularly, mostly near flawless performance...

I'm at a choked connection, taking me 8 hours to post 800M video, and
miserable room for anything else, but there is quite a few videos on my
Youtube channel about Google Croatia (HR, Hrvatska), a.k.a local guys
allied very much or straight working for the regime, playing pranks on
me.
Since I screencast almost all the time I go online, I catch them live
sometimes in undeniable breach of Google policy...
Let me find, aargh this'll take time... but nevertheless let me find
some fine example from among my videos...

Here's one:
Complaint to Google Central about Google HR Censorship Screen
2012-11-15, 23h
http://youtu.be/XagBbgR75h4 I made it in English, it's a complaint to
the higher-ups about the local Google bullies.

And sure enough, there's no.2:
Complaint to Google Central 2, User Pestering with a Purpose
2012-11-23, 22h
http://youtu.be/MHGxeoWQ6vQ

I can say that they somewhat curtailed their pranks after those
complaints, just somewhat, not for desire of good, but because their
pranks do not serve the company, do they, and they must've been told
off, not because of me, I'm not saying that!

I'll be back when the "Claws-mail, garbled ŠĐŽĆČ 2", a shorter more
easy-going video is up, which gives some, not much, new development,
when is up on Youtube. Time is slow here since I'm on about 1/3 of the
coonection speed that I pay for. That is currently my destiny as
dissident against Croatian neo-Bolshevik regime.

I don't enjoy having to write the above, but the problems are of the
outside origin, because vanilla, non-compromised Gentoo install and
upgrade/refurbish/reinstall/you-name-it wouldn't anymore be a problem
for me.

OTOH, I have backed up these:

~/.claws-mail

/somewhere/m.rovis-iskon.hr

which are the directories /home/me-as-user the first and the second
the entire mailbox for m.rovis at inet.hr.

I also have wireshark logs which I don't sufficiently understand, far
from!, but still I almost always I fire up wireshark to be able to
analyze the traffic later, I mean some time in the future when I
learn it...
Screencasting, I don't anymore go online without it.

I don't believe in monkeys writing Bible, and here:

System attacked, Konqueror went on window-popping spree!
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-905472.html#7189918

is very interestingly monkeys from space opening exactly a page on my
router through which I connect to the internet from either of my system
on my SOHO network... Those monkeys would only need the password... and
they'd be happier than if you gave 'em load of bananas...

But all these is still only context to the issue as much as concerns Claws-mail.

I only actually have one question which is probably easy for any of you
devs to answer:
I was wondering, were there any other directories than those two, one
in /home the other the mailbox, for me to back up, so I can reproduce
previous, backed up Claws install, along with the settings if I make any
new tweaking, onto another system, from, say, possibly affected, system
of mine? Or is it, as seems to me, just those two directories?

I have already found out how to move to new sent messages from
possibly affected to clean cloned claws system and am rather confident
that it works fine.
It's the newest numbers to copy over, because in folders, and the
sent foleder is one, Claws stores every sent message in a file that
gets a number, and using diff to compare old and new claws install (the
clean and the possibly affected), I just copy over the newly sent
messages and then I can leave the new (possibly affected) claws and
start working completely over from the old with the added sent messages.
Of course, I only don't lose anything, because I don't download any new
messages into the possibly affected old system in the meantime. Which
is easy to set in the Claws settings that download of messages is
stricty only manual.. I hope they don't break that like they broke my
Thunderbird... where I didn't eventually have complete control, far
from! of my Thunderbird install. Believe you me!

I am talking here same or nearly same hardware systems, cloned, as
systems, not talking just claws program here, but the Gentoo OS on
hardware systems or computers, cloned, as systems btwn each other as
necessary.
Here's how:

Use old amd64 gentoo image on new amd64 hardware, possible?
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-940916.html

The only week entrance points on a hardened kernel run Gentoo OS on
such computers as in the link immediately above, if there is
no other unsuspected source of compromising agent, are the router if
they guess the password, and the mail, yes, but I'm quite confident that
Claws isn't easily worked out into hackers' paradise, which my
Thunderbird did eventually turn into...

But this is a loong message... Soo... for now,

> with regards
> 
> Paul
> 
> 

Thanks, dev!
:-)

-- 
Miroslav Rovis
m.rovis at inet.hr
miro.rovis at gmail.com
01 660 2633
091 266 0202
#===      osuđen:     ===#
http://www.croatiafidelis.hr/Miroslav_Rovis_politicki_progon/
#===    pravomoćno!   ===#
http://www.exDeo.com
http://groups.google.com/group/croatian-news/
http://www.youtube.com/user/miroR2
nije moj profil, ali do siečnja 2012., a i kasnije, tamo postavljah:
http://www.youtube.com/user/prosvjednikkrcmarek
Ima nešto i ovdje:
http://vimeo.com/user9621785
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/
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From g_nikiforov at hotmail.com  Fri Dec  7 21:16:04 2012
From: g_nikiforov at hotmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?0JPQtdC+0YDQs9C4INCd0LjQutC40YTQvtGA0L7Qsg==?=)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 22:16:04 +0200
Subject: [Users] claws mail with gmail and hotmail
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP3731784EF9152C0786CACBB90440@phx.gbl>

Hello,

I've recently installed claws mail and I'm really impressed with that
program. I'm using gentoo linux amd64 and Claws mail 3.8.1, which is
the last stable version in the portage repository. However I two
problems which are I still need to resolve.

1. For some reason the bulgarian spell checking does not work. I've
installed aspell and hunspell. In english everything works just fine,
so I'm wondering if I could get any pointers on that.

2. I have a hotmail account and a gmail account. I've set up the gmail
account as imap as described here
(http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php?title=Using_Claws_with_Gmail),
and the hotmail as just an SMTP account, so that I can send email with
my hotmail account as well (I have the hotmail forwarded to the gmail
account, so I'm fine with receiving). From my hotmail SMTP account,
I've set the sent mails to be saved to the Sent folder of the gmail
account as well. That seems to work fine, however the same sent message
also appears in the gmail inbox folder. I guess when claws saves my
sent message into the Sent folder (or label), as a side effect that
message also gets the label INBOX. So it appears in both folders. If I
go into Gmail from an internet browser and remove the INBOX label of
that letter, then it appears only in the sent folder, as it should be.
So my question is whether there is a way to copy a message into a
folder in gmail, without having that letter pick up the label INBOX.

Thanks a lot in advance for any answers.


From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Fri Dec  7 22:27:44 2012
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:27:44 -0500
Subject: [Users] E-Mail Printing under FreeBSD
In-Reply-To: <20121206182710.1003a1f4@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
References: <20121206182710.1003a1f4@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20121207162744.3cbe0433@mydesk>

On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 18:27:10 -0500, edwardp at mcom.com said:
> I have been using FreeBSD on-and-off for the past couple of weeks (by
> swapping hard drives, Linux on one, FreeBSD (as PC-BSD 9.0) on the
> other).
> 
> When I printed an e-mail from the FreeBSD port of Claws, the first
> line at the top of the page was chopped off.
> 
> I'm curious to know if this is a FreeBSD problem or perhaps a problem
> with the Claws port.  The printer is an HP DeskJet 932C, HPLIP (also
> installed) provides full support for this model.
> 
> I was able to (somewhat) solve a printing issue with the SeaMonkey
> (SM) suite, printing web pages by adjusting one of the right margin
> settings in the configuration file, however the URL which should
> normally print at the upper right of the page with SM and Firefox,
> does not print in with the FreeBSD port of SM, so this could be an
> altogether different issue.  
> 
> Thanks in advance..

Hi edwardp,

I have a FreeBSD laptop sitting in the next room. If you tell me the
exact procedure by which you printed your email, I'll try to reproduce
your symptom. By the way, my Claws, on both Linux and BSD, are set to
not render html email, so that might be a diff3erence.

Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt                *  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
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From fbl at sysclose.org  Fri Dec  7 22:37:11 2012
From: fbl at sysclose.org (Flavio Leitner)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 19:37:11 -0200
Subject: [Users] how to reply and run an action
Message-ID: <20121207193711.14c3ad98@obelix.rh>


Hi,

I want a shortcut that 'clicks' on reply, then run an 'action'
which replaces part of the text.

I want to review and click on 'send' myself.
The action part is working already.

Is that possible? 

thanks,
-- 
fbl


From edwardp at mcom.com  Fri Dec  7 23:15:18 2012
From: edwardp at mcom.com (edwardp at mcom.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 17:15:18 -0500
Subject: [Users] E-Mail Printing under FreeBSD
In-Reply-To: <20121207162744.3cbe0433@mydesk>
References: <20121206182710.1003a1f4@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121207162744.3cbe0433@mydesk>
Message-ID: <20121207171518.4f10b107@debian.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>

On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:27:44 -0500
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 18:27:10 -0500, edwardp at mcom.com said:
> > I have been using FreeBSD on-and-off for the past couple of weeks
> > (by swapping hard drives, Linux on one, FreeBSD (as PC-BSD 9.0) on
> > the other).
> > 
> > When I printed an e-mail from the FreeBSD port of Claws, the first
> > line at the top of the page was chopped off.
> > 
> > I'm curious to know if this is a FreeBSD problem or perhaps a
> > problem with the Claws port.  The printer is an HP DeskJet 932C,
> > HPLIP (also installed) provides full support for this model.
> > 
> > I was able to (somewhat) solve a printing issue with the SeaMonkey
> > (SM) suite, printing web pages by adjusting one of the right margin
> > settings in the configuration file, however the URL which should
> > normally print at the upper right of the page with SM and Firefox,
> > does not print in with the FreeBSD port of SM, so this could be an
> > altogether different issue.  
> > 
> > Thanks in advance..
> 
> Hi edwardp,
> 
> I have a FreeBSD laptop sitting in the next room. If you tell me the
> exact procedure by which you printed your email, I'll try to reproduce
> your symptom. By the way, my Claws, on both Linux and BSD, are set to
> not render html email, so that might be a diff3erence.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> SteveT

I think I really brought up an interesting problem here.  :)

Once Claws Mail is installed and after the first e-mail account is
created, there is a 'default' e-mail that appears in the Inbox folder,
welcoming the user to Claws Mail.  This is an all-text e-mail with
links, no HTML.

I simply clicked the Print icon, the print dialog box appeared, I
selected the HP printer and clicked 'Print'.

The top line of the printout that resulted, was chopped off.


From ricardo at mones.org  Sat Dec  8 01:45:23 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 01:45:23 +0100
Subject: [Users] how to reply and run an action
In-Reply-To: <20121207193711.14c3ad98@obelix.rh>
References: <20121207193711.14c3ad98@obelix.rh>
Message-ID: <20121208004523.GF10614@trasgu>

On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 07:37:11PM -0200, Flavio Leitner wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I want a shortcut that 'clicks' on reply, then run an 'action'
> which replaces part of the text.
> 
> I want to review and click on 'send' myself.
> The action part is working already.
> 
> Is that possible? 

  Probably with the python plugin, I'd say.
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.          Carl Sagan

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From berndth at gmx.de  Sat Dec  8 18:21:21 2012
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 18:21:21 +0100
Subject: [Users] how to reply and run an action
In-Reply-To: <20121207193711.14c3ad98@obelix.rh>
References: <20121207193711.14c3ad98@obelix.rh>
Message-ID: <20121208182121.72d5a5f0@wodan>

On Fr, 07.12.2012 19:37, Flavio Leitner wrote:

>I want a shortcut that 'clicks' on reply, then run an 'action'
>which replaces part of the text.
>
>I want to review and click on 'send' myself.
>The action part is working already.
>
>Is that possible? 

If you want to do that always, or always from specific accounts, or
always from specific folders, you might be able to use one of the reply
templates for that. Those can call external programs and scripts to
modify the body.

As Mones said, the Python plugin is also an alternative. An
auto/compose_any script will be called everytime a compose window is
opened (be it composing a new message, replying, forwarding).

You you don't want this to happen automatically, but to have a
separate menu item that opens a reply window and does some work in it,
that's also possible with the Python plugin. You could assign a
keyboard shortcut to it, or dump it into the toolbar.

The normal way would be to do your modifications in Python directly
in this case. It would also be possible to trigger menu items in the
compose window - however, a quick look seems to indicate that for some
strange reason Actions are not directly accessible. That isn't really a
blocker, though, as it should be possible to mimic script invokation
in Python directly.


Holger


From lfisk at iserv.net  Sat Dec  8 13:51:28 2012
From: lfisk at iserv.net (Leon Fisk)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 08:51:28 -0400
Subject: [Users] Counting characters
In-Reply-To: <20121206144728.72a8eb8b@scorpio>
References: <20121206110540.2e833659@scorpio>
	<20121206162009.6887924d@digimed.co.uk>
	<20121206130410.32e07c56@scorpio>
	<20121206195729.3cf109fb@bsd64.grem.de>
	<20121206144728.72a8eb8b@scorpio>
Message-ID: <201212081753.qB8HrA24021721@mail3.iserv.net>

On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 14:47:28 -0500
Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:

<snip>
>I realize that there are other solutions; however, in keeping with my
>KISS principal...

Another idea or two... you could make up a special template with say 160
dashes in the text area or whatever else you like. Park your cursor at
the beginning, toggle to type-over and enter your message. If you still
have some characters/room left when your done hit shift-end and then
delete...

You probably have the "wc" command available too for another possible
custom action:

===
wc [options] [files]

Print byte, word, and line counts for each file. Print a total line for
multiple files. If files is omitted or is -, read standard input.
===

-- 
Leon
Claws 3.9.0, Ubuntu Karmic-Lucid


From berndth at gmx.de  Sat Dec  8 19:03:18 2012
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 19:03:18 +0100
Subject: [Users] notifications and unity
In-Reply-To: <20121206211732.59a3deb8@jeremy-nb>
References: <20121206211732.59a3deb8@jeremy-nb>
Message-ID: <20121208190318.24753c62@wodan>

On Do, 06.12.2012 21:17, Jeremy Schneider wrote:

>i saw already saw this old bug report which tells me that something
>should be working:
>http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2453

It may not be working anymore - I don't know, I don't use Unity. Ubuntu
changes its APIs more often than other people change their socks.

There's been a patch proposal about Unity integration recently [1]. If
you can work with patches, feedback would be interesting.

>i'm using IMAP with a gmail account.

That might be an additional problem, because the notification plugin
notifies of new mail, and Gmail IMAP is known to not support that
concept.

Holger

[1] http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2665


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec  8 20:01:57 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat,  8 Dec 2012 20:01:57 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2832] New: mail to from adress-book splitt names
Message-ID: <bug-2832-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2832

           Summary: mail to from adress-book splitt names
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.9.0
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Address Book
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: lgd at arcor.de


Created an attachment (id=1203)
 --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1203)
Example for splitted names

my entries in adress-book looks like "surname, prename" in shown name.
When select and choose with right-click mail-to (in german "E-Mail an")
in Editor-Window the first "To:" contain the surname, the second "To:" the
prename followed with mailadress.
In other case some entries without comma-separating works fine.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec  8 20:32:10 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat,  8 Dec 2012 20:32:10 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2833] New: RSSyl generates too much IO
Message-ID: <bug-2833-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2833

           Summary: RSSyl generates too much IO
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: CVS
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/RSSyl
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: higuita at gmx.net


i have setup RSS feeds for slashdot and freshmeat/freecode and as they have
high volume of changes and i dont expire old news, their folders have ~10.000
items.

When RSSyl tries to fetch/update the feed, the machine load jumps to ~50 and i
can see high IO requests from claws. Trying to check what is happening i get
this:
write(1, "feed.c:911:", 11)             = 11
write(1, "Appending 'Greg KH Leaves SUSE F"..., 53) = 53
write(1, "feed.c:909:", 11)             = 11
write(1, "RSSyl: starting to parse '42143'"..., 33) = 33
write(1, "feed.c:662:", 11)             = 11
write(1, "RSSyl: parsing '/home/higuita/.c"..., 64) = 64
open("/home/higuita/.claws-mail/RSSyl/Slashdot/42143", O_RDONLY) = 31
fstat(31, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=3859, ...}) = 0
read(31, "Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 20:11:00 "..., 3859) = 3859
close(31)                               = 0
stat("/etc/localtime", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=3439, ...}) = 0
write(1, "feed.c:719:", 11)             = 11
write(1, "RSSyl: got date \n", 17)      = 17
write(1, "feed.c:712:", 11)             = 11
write(1, "RSSyl: got author 'samzenpus'\n", 30) = 30
write(1, "feed.c:725:", 11)             = 11
write(1, "RSSyl: got title 'Canada's Onlin"..., 84) = 84
write(1, "feed.c:768:", 11)             = 11
write(1, "RSSyl: updated title to 'Canada'"..., 100) = 100
write(1, "feed.c:732:", 11)             = 11
write(1, "RSSyl: got link 'http://rss.slas"..., 148) = 148
write(1, "feed.c:741:", 11)             = 11
write(1, "RSSyl: got id 'http://rss.slashd"..., 146) = 146
write(1, "feed.c:697:", 11)             = 11
write(1, "RSSyl: finished parsing headers\n", 32) = 32
write(1, "feed.c:789:", 11)             = 11
write(1, "Leading html tag found at line 1"..., 34) = 34
write(1, "feed.c:796:", 11)             = 11
write(1, "Trailing html tag found at line "..., 35) = 35
write(1, "feed.c:911:", 11)             = 11
write(1, "Appending 'Canada's Online Surve"..., 86) = 86
write(1, "feed.c:909:", 11)             = 11
write(1, "RSSyl: starting to parse '43813'"..., 33) = 33
write(1, "feed.c:662:", 11)             = 11
write(1, "RSSyl: parsing '/home/higuita/.c"..., 64) = 64
open("/home/higuita/.claws-mail/RSSyl/Slashdot/43813", O_RDONLY) = 31
fstat(31, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=3829, ...}) = 0
read(31, "Date: Tue,  3 Apr 2012 18:31:00 "..., 3829) = 3829
close(31)                               = 0
stat("/etc/localtime", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=3439, ...}) = 0
write(1, "feed.c:719:", 11)             = 11
write(1, "RSSyl: got date \n", 17)      = 17
write(1, "feed.c:712:", 11)             = 11
write(1, "RSSyl: got author 'samzenpus'\n", 30) = 30

So looks that RSSyk is trying to read ALL the items on those folders. So the
more items we have, the more this is a issue

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec  8 20:39:29 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat,  8 Dec 2012 20:39:29 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2834] New: Filtering to a imap folder sometime fails
	to run
Message-ID: <bug-2834-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2834

           Summary: Filtering to a imap folder sometime fails to run
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.9.0
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Filtering
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: higuita at gmx.net


a few months ago i migrated my email to a imap server and changed the filtering
from 4 email accounts (2 pop, one local, one imap) to move the messaged to the
various imap folders

many time all works fine, but others (specially on background fetchs) i get
most of the messages in the inbox, without any filtering. If i select those
messages and run "filter select messages" all works fine.

So looks like that on background fetch and filtering have some issue, probably
related to imap, as before the migration i had no issue ( i cant remember if i
updated claws at that time).

Right now i', running claws 3.9.0

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec  9 00:40:19 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun,  9 Dec 2012 00:40:19 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2833] RSSyl generates too much IO
In-Reply-To: <bug-2833-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian  2012-12-09 00:40:18 ---
This is inevitable, since every new item from currently parsed feed update
needs to be checked against existing items, to see if it is one of them (so it
can either be ignored, or updated with new content).

You could create a cleanup processing rule (e.g. condition "age_greater 7 &
~unread", action "delete") to get rid of old stuff. I understand that might not
be desirable, though.

Only possible solution I can think of would be an optional age cutoff setting,
with updates not being checked against older items.

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From higuita7 at yahoo.co.uk  Sun Dec  9 03:16:33 2012
From: higuita7 at yahoo.co.uk (higuita)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 02:16:33 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2833] RSSyl generates too much IO
In-Reply-To: <20121208234019.94B65853E0@mx.colino.net>
References: <bug-2833-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
	<20121208234019.94B65853E0@mx.colino.net>
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Hi

> This is inevitable, since every new item from currently parsed feed
> update needs to be checked against existing items, to see if it is one
> of them (so it can either be ignored, or updated with new content).

	How about caching that info. Claws mail folders have cache to
avoid parsing all the messages for info.

	RSS feeds can both have little info, but can also have
a lot of items.
 
> You could create a cleanup processing rule (e.g. condition "age_greater
> 7 & ~unread", action "delete") to get rid of old stuff. I understand
> that might not be desirable, though.

	I already had the idea of moving the feeds to another
(mail) folder, but duplicating the RSSyl folders dont look like the
correct way of solving this, so i open the bug :)
 
> Only possible solution I can think of would be an optional age cutoff
> setting, with updates not being checked against older items.

	yes, cutoff after the date of the last item plus 1 day look
like a good idea. this way it will always update the last entry (the
more probable of having one update), plus a few more, depending of
the feed update rate

Thanks in advance
higuita
-- 
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leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a 
simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or
a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.
Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of
the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are 
being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec  9 04:03:02 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun,  9 Dec 2012 04:03:02 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2835] New: add_address() in addr_compl.c should allow
 a NULL name
Message-ID: <bug-2835-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2835

           Summary: add_address() in addr_compl.c should allow a NULL name
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: CVS
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: neels at hofmeyr.de


Created an attachment (id=1204)
 --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1204)
This patch, along with a change that adds an address book refresh to the
address keeper plugin, allows the plugin to immediately update address
completion with new addresses.

For a caller of addrbook_add_contact() (like the address-keeper plugin), it is
impossible to enter a new address with an empty name, so that it shows up in
the address completion, without doing a complete addressbook reload (claws-mail
restart).

addrbook_add_contact() via addritem_person_set_common_name() and
mgu_replace_string() strips the name to NULL. However, a NULL name invariably
triggers a condition in addr_compl.c:add_address(), causing the address to be
dropped from the address completion cache:

-    if (!name || !address) {
-        if (address || nick || alias || !grp_emails) 
-            return -1;

I don't really understand the condition, especially when comparing it to what
it was in 3.8.0.

A patch will follow which collapses the condition to something that seems to
make sense, and which sets a NULL name to the empty string, as is expected in
that code path.

This patch, along with a change that adds an address book refresh to the
address keeper plugin, allows the plugin to immediately update address
completion with new addresses.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec  9 04:07:55 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun,  9 Dec 2012 04:07:55 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2835] add_address() in addr_compl.c should allow a
	NULL name
In-Reply-To: <bug-2835-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2835-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #1 from neels  2012-12-09 04:07:54 ---
Created an attachment (id=1205)
 --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1205)
FYI, the mentioned patch for the address_keeper plugin

(FYI, attached patch that applies to the address_keeper plugin. This is just
related to the proposed change, but neither depends on the other.)

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From neels at hofmeyr.de  Sun Dec  9 04:28:04 2012
From: neels at hofmeyr.de (Neels Hofmeyr)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 04:28:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] address-keeper plugin and address completion
Message-ID: <20121209042804.023a1fad@dub>

Hi Ricardo, hi users,

I was annoyed by the fact that the address keeper plugin fails to push
new addresses into the address completion immediately. So I hunted it
down and came up with the two patches attached to claws bug #2835

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2835

The descriptions there ended up being a bit convoluted because the
many description fields made me write many descriptions, sorry about
that ;)

Basically, to get immediate updates working, the address-keeper plugin
should refresh the address book. But if the 'name' of the recipient is
empty, claws-mail still drops it from address completion because of some
obscure condition in addr_compl.c, and that's what my patch for
claws-mail tries to fix. With both patches applied, it works the way
I'd expect it to, crossing fingers against any adverse effects.

I'm using these patches now. I hope that you have time to look at them,
and maybe even improve and/or commit them?

Thanks,
~Neels
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec  9 04:40:47 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun,  9 Dec 2012 04:40:47 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2835] add_address() in addr_compl.c should allow a
	NULL name
In-Reply-To: <bug-2835-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2835-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #2 from neels  2012-12-09 04:40:46 ---
I think my ML post has a much clearer description of what this is:

http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2012-December/004801.html

"
I was annoyed by the fact that the address keeper plugin fails to push
new addresses into the address completion immediately.
[...]
Basically, to get immediate updates working, the address-keeper plugin should
refresh the address book [second attached patch]. But if the 'name' of the
recipient is empty, claws-mail still drops it from address completion because
of some obscure condition in addr_compl.c, and that's what my patch for
claws-mail tries to fix [first attached patch]. With both patches applied, it
works the way I'd expect it to, crossing fingers against any adverse effects.
"

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec  9 04:44:56 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun,  9 Dec 2012 04:44:56 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2835] add_address() in addr_compl.c should allow a
	NULL name
In-Reply-To: <bug-2835-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2835-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121209034456.3BCFC8542F@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2835


neels at hofmeyr.de changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Attachment #1204|This patch, along with a    |Allow NULL name for address
        description|change that adds an address |completion
                   |book refresh to the address |
                   |keeper plugin, allows the   |
                   |plugin to immediately       |
                   |update address completion   |
                   |with new addresses.         |




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From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Dec  9 09:40:07 2012
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 09:40:07 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2833] RSSyl generates too much IO
In-Reply-To: <20121209021633.2a903a6b@Couracado.homelinux.net>
References: <bug-2833-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
	<20121208234019.94B65853E0@mx.colino.net>
	<20121209021633.2a903a6b@Couracado.homelinux.net>
Message-ID: <20121209094007.3d1cad8e@penny>

On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 02:16:33 +0000
higuita <higuita7 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> > Only possible solution I can think of would be an optional age cutoff
> > setting, with updates not being checked against older items.  
> 
> 	yes, cutoff after the date of the last item plus 1 day look
> like a good idea. this way it will always update the last entry (the
> more probable of having one update), plus a few more, depending of
> the feed update rate

The problem is that this would create duplicates if an older item got an
update. E.g. what if the oldest item (in currently parsed feed) is a year old
item that was updated with new content? Since the updated item wouldn't be
checked against your local copy, RSSyl would consider it a brand new item.
This is why such setting would need to be off by default (check everything).

I will look into the caching idea, as that seems a more systematic approach to
the problem. :)

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From nicolas.claws at iselin.ch  Sun Dec  9 16:32:41 2012
From: nicolas.claws at iselin.ch (Nicolas Iselin)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 16:32:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] Recursively mark as read?
In-Reply-To: <20121207085611.GC10614@trasgu>
References: <20121206103132.79d118e8@omega>
	<20121207085611.GC10614@trasgu>
Message-ID: <20121209163241.668aadac@omega>

Hi Ricardo,

> > 
> >   http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.mail.sylpheed.claws.general/45203
> 
>   That's an already working solution, yep.

Yes, worked perfectly. Thanks!

Nicolas



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec  9 18:19:20 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun,  9 Dec 2012 18:19:20 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2141] Notification plugin segfaults on claws-mail exit
 if set to monitor a RSS-folder
In-Reply-To: <bug-2141-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2141-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121209171920.DE08B853E0@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2141


Holger Berndt <hb at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |FIXED




--- Comment #14 from Holger Berndt  2012-12-09 18:19:20 ---
Fixed the crash by removing the possibility to select folders provided by other
plugins. Claws Mail's current plugin infrastructure doesn't really provide the
means to do that.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec  9 22:59:36 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun,  9 Dec 2012 22:59:36 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2836] New: Truncated text with RTL mode
Message-ID: <bug-2836-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2836

           Summary: Truncated text with RTL mode
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.1
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: khazarian at fastmail.in


Some descriptions, while being displayed in RTL UI mode, are truncated due to
being located at the middle of a box instead on the edge.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec  9 23:03:04 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun,  9 Dec 2012 23:03:04 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2836] Truncated text with RTL mode
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--- Comment #1 from khazarian  2012-12-09 23:03:04 ---
Created an attachment (id=1206)
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truncated text - complete text can be seen on window expansion

Examples of truncated texts are attached.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec  9 23:04:48 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun,  9 Dec 2012 23:04:48 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2836] Truncated text with RTL mode
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--- Comment #2 from khazarian  2012-12-09 23:04:48 ---
Created an attachment (id=1207)
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complete text - flawless

In the vast majority of dialogs, the text is complete and proper.

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From m.rovis at inet.hr  Mon Dec 10 09:31:41 2012
From: m.rovis at inet.hr (Miroslav Rovis)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:31:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] =?utf-8?b?R2FyYmxlZCDFoMSQxb3EhsSMIMWhxJHFvsSHxI0sICB3?=
 =?utf-8?q?hy_=28my_guess=29=2C_but_how_to_fix_it=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <20121207203232.210f65ea@at8-g250-b.exdeowg>
References: <20121206154416.2e0541d7@at8-g250.exdeowg>
	<20121207161721.2a9c029a@thewildbeast>
	<20121207203232.210f65ea@at8-g250-b.exdeowg>
Message-ID: <20121210093141.4d3d0807@at8-g250-b.exdeowg>

On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 20:32:32 +0100
Miroslav Rovis <m.rovis at inet.hr> wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:17:21 +0000
> Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 15:44:16 +0100
> > Miroslav Rovis <m.rovis at inet.hr> wrote: 
> > 
> > > If anyone has ideas on this, they are welcome.
> > > On my part, I'll go and study claws and it's manual, and see if I
> > > come up with something.

Still haven't been able to find time to do that, but read on, pls., it
wasn't laziness.

> > It's probably either your system or the particular message in
> > question. Hard to say without access to either.
> 

Thanks, again, Paul Developer, for giving my problem a glance.
That problem has vanished completely in the meantime.
It is documented in video, and if I searched through my Youtube channel
I could find paramount examples of purposefully garbled šđžćčŠĐŽĆČ
 and similar pranks by third parties in my Thunderbird mailbox which I
 used back then, but let's stay within the issue.

> And they were, past tense, because there's a "Claws-mail, garbled
> ŠĐŽĆČ 2". video coming

Claws-mail, garbled ŠĐŽĆČ and why 2
http://youtu.be/Rl4ZTILS_c8

It wasn't laziness that I reply so late, and make good so late to my
promises, but I need to start another thread, the issue being a
different than "garbled šđžćč".
There is a message to submit for you experts to confirm or deny my
understanding of it.
I'll try and post a new message with title:

Message shows strange redirection (reveals censorship)

Cheers!
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nije moj profil, ali do siečnja 2012., a i kasnije, tamo postavljah:
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Ima nešto i ovdje:
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From m.rovis at inet.hr  Mon Dec 10 11:51:55 2012
From: m.rovis at inet.hr (Miroslav Rovis)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:51:55 +0100
Subject: [Users] Message shows strange redirection (reveals censorship)
Message-ID: <20121210115155.18f8d97e@at8-g250-b.exdeowg>

The techical issue of this article is at very end, marked with litteral
string: "the technical issue".

Only because, and I do express reserved thanks here to Google central,
because the fact that none of my videos that I posted to Youtube is
missing, and contrary to the probably pressure on Google by the local
regime of my country's, since my e-mails that I send and my e-mails
that people send to me, are massacred, let me repeat, e-mails I send to
people and e-mails people send to me, are massacred by the local stupid
regime I live under (but which is somewhat, somewhat only, God, how
deep the brainwash in people's minds!, shaking)...

And I thank them for the fact that none are missing of my screencasts of
my mailings (and other activities) videos, of which videoa some are (or
would become in case of denial of their service), somewhat notorious
and even popular (local Youtube is allowed to manipulate numbers of
viewings, so don't be misled by low numbers), and my videos are a
long-standing proof of their censorship...

And for the fact that none the posted screencasts on Youtube have been
deleted or hidden (other than me placing the longer and more boring ones
among "unlisted")...

And only for that fact that Youtube don't delete or hide videos people
post, for which fact I thank both Google and Youtube (but, pls.
understand me, not the local regime branches, no!, they do play pranks
on my videos! and on mails and postings; only they haven't got permit to
delete videos I posted, and I bet, I bet, I bet they tried! Let me
make it a little more spicy here, by the fact that they got one
country in the world to blacklist a couple of my videos, and that
country is the one that people worldwide are unaware how stupidly left
it turned: Germany!, yes, the Soviet style EU hegemon!... I think two
videos, and really unwarranted before God and men!).

And since they didn't want to be discovered and just had to let through
in a very particular way one important e-mail to me, I can proof now
their censorship on me!

They would have been discovered because of this video that I mentioned
three days ago now:

> I'm at a choked connection, taking me 8 hours to post 800M video...

It is unlisted because it is one of those too difficult for the general
public to watch, and belive me, I was sick of video cutting and pasting,
to make the video more easily viewed and shorter, and just posted it as
my friend ffmpeg took it:

(WARNED you have been!):
Dopuštenje za uporabu Markovih pjesama uz nekoliko minuta Vukovara,
Screen 2012 12 07, 12h
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzy4eTlOGqA

And then what happens? I wish I could write bilingual here as well,
because this thread on Claws mailing list is certainly of interest to
domestic audience, but, never mind, it'll be there on:
http://groups.google.com/group/croatian-news/
it'll be there in English, and it'll be there in Croatian, once I
traslate it, hopefully, and it'll be in Youtube screencast with a
commnent, probably.

But then what happens? My gay, happy, beautiful, privider, since
they regularly sift through my e-mails, never mind the privacy
policy, c'mmon!, what, they have to endear themselves to the regime,
don't they?...

So they read the messages exchanged btwn the Thompson's Band
manager (Marko Perković Thompson is without any argument whatsoever, the
Croatian singer that has in entire our history, had the largest
following of sympathizers and fans, and despite of to the excessive and
abusive and persistent campaign of the regime and media against him,
such as being himself currently, or maybe soon to be, judicially
accused and smeared for invented tax fraud or similar; so in such
circumstances I am also proud to have been persecuted by a regime that
persecutes the righteous like him, mind that I had 4 months jail time
suspended sentence over me, two years caution recently elapsed).

He got his nickname "Thompson", because in the war of defence that
Croatia waged, but for which Croatia also stood accused in the
persons of its top generals, and for which the International Court
Tribunal for former Yugoslavia (ICTY) in the Haague recently cleared the
remaining accused generals of the Republic of Croatia of all the
wrongdoings whatsoever, and declared them innocent before the world,
pls. see (only in Croatian at this time):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THU-YOGCf2A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcsYoyQ3LcU
and other videos, just search by, maybe, these "2012-11-16" and
"Generali" but, wait, if you want the most beautiful scenes, go for the
afternoon videos of the day:
HTV, 2012-11-16 14h 30m, Zagreb: Generali Gotovina Markač, povratak!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AnzNqRejO8

But I was recounting how Marko Perković got his nickname "Thompson"
because he was a Fighter armed with a Thompson rifle at the beginning of
the War of Croatian Independence back in 1991.

And there you have a manager of his band, that is liked and followed
the most in Croatia (no other singer packed Croatian stadia and
venues as full as he did, ever), replying to me, and then what
apparently happens is, the local little Google happy gay employees gets
Thompson's manager's message on Croatian-News, because it was sent as I
intended it to be sent, having I added to my query's mail header:

Reply-To: croatian-news at googlegroups.com

I was asking for a permit, and permits are public, aren't they, and so
I was asking publicly, am I not allowed to?

No, I was not. No way! Were that the first time people tried to
publicly reply to me, or publicly support me, or publicly say they
appreciated what I did, and little local Google Croatia bullies scrapped
what people publicly sent to me, I wouldn't even mind so much.

But that has been the regular way they have treated anyone trying to
contact me publicly via: 

http://groups.google.com/group/croatian-news/

http://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/croatian-news/

(the above are the old and the new interface to same content)

for years now. For years now.

A recent example (I learned screencasting for anti-censorship purposes
only relatively recently) is:

Complaint to Google Central about Google HR Censorship, Screen
2012-11-15, 23h
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XagBbgR75h4

and later developments (some of it yet to come, God permitting)

what free speech? No free speech! None for dissenters, as far as they
go!

Come on! Give me a little break!

Before going on to technicalities, let me give you a link to the more
user-friendly video on this undeniable censorship issue, that I made
when it finally dawned on me what happened with these mails in
question:

Lectio 9 2012-12-09, msg. from Thompson's, Iskon & Croatian-News
Collude in Abuse, HRVATSKI
http://youtu.be/x0vyGR8YBc0

#=== the technical issue
Now I do believe I got it right. But, you more knowledgeable people
then me who have granted me the honor of reading this article you're
reading, pls. look up the source of the reply email in question that I
attach
( Src_MAIL_121209_Thompson_permit_Vukovar_REPLY_ZdravkoBarišić.txt ). I
am still new to Claws, but I got the source saved through GUI
interface, and I also did a search (in my mailbox), like so:

$ grep -r 'njegove pjesme su mi najdra' /Cmn/Cm/m.rovis-iskon.hr/inbox/
/Cmn/Cm/m.rovis-iskon.hr/inbox/1603:Vrlo cienim Marka i njegove pjesme
su mi najdra=C5=BEe, te nisam mario ni za
/Cmn/Cm/m.rovis-iskon.hr/inbox/1606:Vrlo cienim Marka i njegove pjesme
su mi najdra=BEe, te nisam mario ni =
/Cmn/Cm/m.rovis-iskon.hr/inbox/1605:Vrlo cienim Marka i njegove pjesme
su mi najdraže, te nisam mario ni za
$

"njegove pjesme su mi najdra" is a string from the original e-mail I
sent, meaning "his songs are dearest to me" ('najdraže' instead of
'najdra' in fact, for full Croatian phrase). 

Those were my words actually, so the search gave my mail and the
replies (the copy of what I sent via www.thompson.hr and the manager's
reply). So I went on and searched for manager's words only.

$ grep -r 'nama je u interesu da se Markove pjesme što više
čuju' /Cmn/Cm/m.rovis-iskon.hr/inbox/
$ grep -r "nama je u interesu da se Markove pjesme što više
čuju" /Cmn/Cm/m.rovis-iskon.hr/inbox/
$ grep -r "nama je u
interesu da se Markove pjesme" /Cmn/Cm/m.rovis-iskon.hr/inbox/
/Cmn/Cm/m.rovis-iskon.hr/inbox/1606:=A9to se ti=E8e nas, nama je u
interesu da se Markove pjesme =B9to =
$ 

The first of the three latter searches for the string "nama je u
interesu da se Markove pjesme što više čuju" couldn't be found either
with ' or ", the two types of quotes, because the original reply from
Thompson's manager was in iso8859-2 character encoding (uses Windoze,
what can you).
You can see that in the source mail itself ("Microsoft Office Outlook").

But, since I'm new to Claws, I don't know what the best way is to send
the source mail, I did now some 20 minutes search, and came up with no
useful tips...

So I just have to venture and send it as plain text. I warmly hope it
doesn't clutter this text further, since it is already lengthy.

(I inserted newlines in the pasted output, because the
line wrapping can be confusing)

$ md5sum /Cmn/Cm/m.rovis-iskon.hr/inbox/1606

Src_MAIL_121209_Thompson_permit_Vukovar_REPLY_ZdravkoBarišić.txt

ec37bd4a741b117f46ac92efded9bfb1  /Cmn/Cm/m.rovis-iskon.hr/inbox/1606

ec37bd4a741b117f46ac92efded9bfb1
Src_MAIL_121209_Thompson_permit_Vukovar_REPLY_ZdravkoBarišić.txt

$

or if you want sha256, then (I inserted newlines, because the
line wrapping can be confusing):

$ sha256sum /Cmn/Cm/m.rovis-iskon.hr/inbox/1606
Src_MAIL_121209_Thompson_permit_Vukovar_REPLY_ZdravkoBarišić.txt

b5e2b4588530c5828c536aa185dbe0631e74b36bdb8f4436c80abc62926d1146  /Cmn/Cm/m.rovis-iskon.hr/inbox/1606

b5e2b4588530c5828c536aa185dbe0631e74b36bdb8f4436c80abc62926d1146
Src_MAIL_121209_Thompson_permit_Vukovar_REPLY_ZdravkoBarišić.txt

$

Am I correct that:

Line 3:
Received: (qmail 215653 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2012 13:51:50 +0100

Google sent this message to:

Line 5:
Received: from in4.mail.iskon.hr (213.191.133.69)

gay (meaning happy, cheerful, joyous) gay Iskon provider!

This,

Line 10:
X-Remote-IP: 78.46.99.110

being the Google IP, Google mail, Gmail (?, really not in the clear on
that one, because, pls. read on)

Because there's this address as well:

Line 14:
Received: from 8-226.dsl.iskon.hr ([89.164.8.226]:1143 helo=barisicpc)

"barisicpc" being apparently Zdravko Barišić, Thompson's manager, but I
don't get that entire line.

Is he with the same provider, I mean,

Line 29:
X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - inet.hr

But I just looked up and saw that:

Line 28:
X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - carbon.studio4web.com

is a web hosting firm in the making, so...
it's them who are probably with gay joyous Iskon provider, the happy
free speech loving and not ever any mails of their users reading
(according
to their claims, ever!!) provider.

Line 46:
X-SpamTest-Info: {RECEIVED: dynamic ip detected}

and the lines following is,  I guess, is because I was using Tor to
send query from their interface.

That same query I also sent from my
Claws mail program, and I also posted the WARNED you have been!-marked
screencast, unlisted on Youtube, link above that I gave.

But I may be wrong as to what the lines 46 and immediately following
refer to.


Also, I just checked and saw that thompson.hr is done as it should 
be, in utf-8 encoding, so why my message to which Thompson's manager
replies is in his e-mail shown in garbled, from the aspect of a user,
ŠĐŽĆČšđžćč, it's probably because of his own Outlook program... Not
from everybody is expected to be knowledgeable about char encoding, so
this is by no means a reproach. I respect these guys, and am thankful
to them for their love of Croatia and the beautiful songs they make!

So, and I of course, have to thank Claws-mail developers for the fine
program that revealed the strange redirection to me, and I really
believe I was right in my assumptions that can be viewed and listened
to on Youtube about this instance of censorship

(again: Lectio 9 2012-12-09, msg. from Thompson's, Iskon & Croatian-News
Collude in Abuse, HRVATSKI  http://youtu.be/x0vyGR8YBc0 )

, bacause to me, as somewhat experienced user, it
does appear that the message was sent by Google Mail service, whithout
which sending to Iskon for Iskon's forwarding it on to me, I wouldn't
have received anything whatsoever, regardless that I sent
my query in different and diverse, can be said, in triple ways.

That, on the other hand, could not have been done without my dear
gay happy Iskon and bully local little Google HR exchanging opinions
and deciding together what to do and what to send, and what not to
allow, and so forth... May you be ashamed, both of you, Iskon and Google
HR!

The tech is over in this message. Let me just point you to what I said
about the kind of people who hold power in Croatia.

I talk about them from 9 minutes 30 seconds of this
video (the last six minutes):
Claws-mail, garbled ŠĐŽĆČ and why
http://youtu.be/EYcQzzSeU5w

God bless all of you.
Thanks if anyone gives more light to the source mail that I attached
( Src_MAIL_121209_Thompson_permit_Vukovar_REPLY_ZdravkoBarišić.txt )!

-- 
Miroslav Rovis
m.rovis at inet.hr
miro.rovis at gmail.com
01 660 2633
091 266 0202
#===      osuđen:     ===#
http://www.croatiafidelis.hr/Miroslav_Rovis_politicki_progon/
#===    pravomoćno!   ===#
http://www.exDeo.com
http://groups.google.com/group/croatian-news/
http://www.youtube.com/user/miroR2
nije moj profil, ali do siečnja 2012., a i kasnije, tamo postavljah:
http://www.youtube.com/user/prosvjednikkrcmarek
Ima nešto i ovdje:
http://vimeo.com/user9621785
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/
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From fbl at sysclose.org  Mon Dec 10 11:59:07 2012
From: fbl at sysclose.org (Flavio Leitner)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 08:59:07 -0200
Subject: [Users] how to reply and run an action
In-Reply-To: <20121208182121.72d5a5f0@wodan>
References: <20121207193711.14c3ad98@obelix.rh> <20121208182121.72d5a5f0@wodan>
Message-ID: <20121210085907.4279d63f@obelix.rh>

On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 18:21:21 +0100
Holger Berndt <berndth at gmx.de> wrote:
[...]
> As Mones said, the Python plugin is also an alternative. An
> auto/compose_any script will be called everytime a compose window is
> opened (be it composing a new message, replying, forwarding).
> 
> You you don't want this to happen automatically, but to have a
> separate menu item that opens a reply window and does some work in it,
> that's also possible with the Python plugin. You could assign a
> keyboard shortcut to it, or dump it into the toolbar.
> 
> The normal way would be to do your modifications in Python directly
> in this case. It would also be possible to trigger menu items in the
> compose window - however, a quick look seems to indicate that for some
> strange reason Actions are not directly accessible. That isn't really a
> blocker, though, as it should be possible to mimic script invokation
> in Python directly.

Looks like the python plugin is the way to go. Is there any
example out there that you recommend for me to take a look?

I know python, but I don't know the plugin interface.

thanks!
-- 
fbl


From m.rovis at inet.hr  Mon Dec 10 12:12:05 2012
From: m.rovis at inet.hr (Miroslav Rovis)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:12:05 +0100
Subject: [Users] Message shows strange redirection (reveals censorship)
In-Reply-To: <20121210115155.18f8d97e@at8-g250-b.exdeowg>
References: <20121210115155.18f8d97e@at8-g250-b.exdeowg>
Message-ID: <20121210121205.7764daba@at8-g250-b.exdeowg>

> 
> http://groups.google.com/group/croatian-news/
> 
> http://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/croatian-news/
> 
> (the above are the old and the new interface to same content)
> 

I just checked all the links contained in my mail, from:

http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2012-December/004811.html

and all is there, except for "Croatian-News" not being recognized as
existing with the address of the new interface. Unbelievable. Only
early readers will probably recognize this fact, as it might start
working after Google local bullies find out about this mail on them.
But who knows.
Anyway, I challange later readers to, if they feel like, try and open:

http://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/croatian-news/

that link, and let me know!
The new hopefully good address for the same content might be:

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/croatian-news

Again, that's the only link that didn't open for me (and I was as
almost always, browsing anonymously) the intended content of all the
link in the previous mail of mine in this thread.
-- 
Miroslav Rovis
m.rovis at inet.hr
miro.rovis at gmail.com
01 660 2633
091 266 0202
#===      osuđen:     ===#
http://www.croatiafidelis.hr/Miroslav_Rovis_politicki_progon/
#===    pravomoćno!   ===#
http://www.exDeo.com
http://groups.google.com/group/croatian-news/
http://www.youtube.com/user/miroR2
nije moj profil, ali do siečnja 2012., a i kasnije, tamo postavljah:
http://www.youtube.com/user/prosvjednikkrcmarek
Ima nešto i ovdje:
http://vimeo.com/user9621785
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/
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From andrej at kacian.sk  Mon Dec 10 12:18:37 2012
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:18:37 +0100
Subject: [Users] Message shows strange redirection (reveals censorship)
In-Reply-To: <20121210115155.18f8d97e@at8-g250-b.exdeowg>
References: <20121210115155.18f8d97e@at8-g250-b.exdeowg>
Message-ID: <20121210121837.42b12a4b@penny>

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:51:55 +0100
Miroslav Rovis <m.rovis at inet.hr> wrote:

> The techical issue of this article is at very end, marked with litteral
> string: "the technical issue".

Can you please just stick to "the technical issue" related to Claws Mail?
Nobody is interested in reading your supposed privacy issues or fight against
google on this mailinglist. Start a blog or something, but do not waste other
people's bandwidth with off-topic rants.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian dot sk>
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From colin at colino.net  Mon Dec 10 12:25:00 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:25:00 +0100
Subject: [Users] Message shows strange redirection (reveals censorship)
In-Reply-To: <20121210115155.18f8d97e@at8-g250-b.exdeowg>
References: <20121210115155.18f8d97e@at8-g250-b.exdeowg>
Message-ID: <20121210122500.2ad49424@colin>

Hi,

> Line 3:
> Received: (qmail 215653 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2012 13:51:50
> +0100

To cut to the point, Received lines are to be read from the last to the
first (each server add its line at the start).

That mail's headers seem perfectly normal to me. Your
correspondent at pugna.hr sent his email to his SMTP server of choice,
carbon.studio4web.com using his station (barisispc), which forwarded
the email to the next server for your domain, 8-226.dsl.iskon.hr. That
server forwarded it to in4.mail.iskon.hr, which finally delivered it to
popbox.iskon.hr for you to retrieve it.

78.46.99.110 is just the IP of your correspondant's mail server.
-- 
Colin


From colin at colino.net  Mon Dec 10 12:25:03 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:25:03 +0100
Subject: [Users] Message shows strange redirection (reveals censorship)
In-Reply-To: <20121210121205.7764daba@at8-g250-b.exdeowg>
References: <20121210115155.18f8d97e@at8-g250-b.exdeowg>
	<20121210121205.7764daba@at8-g250-b.exdeowg>
Message-ID: <20121210122503.0465d69c@colin>

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:12:05 +0100, Miroslav Rovis <m.rovis at inet.hr>
wrote:

> all is there, except for "Croatian-News" not being recognized as
> existing with the address of the new interface.

This is just because the list archive software changes email addresses
to avoid spam bots.

It would be nice to keep things on topic there on this mailing list,
which is dedicated to Claws Mail related technical questions only.
-- 
Colin


From ricardo at mones.org  Mon Dec 10 14:10:12 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:10:12 +0100
Subject: [Users] how to reply and run an action
In-Reply-To: <20121210085907.4279d63f@obelix.rh>
References: <20121207193711.14c3ad98@obelix.rh> <20121208182121.72d5a5f0@wodan>
	<20121210085907.4279d63f@obelix.rh>
Message-ID: <20121210131012.GG10614@trasgu>

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 08:59:07AM -0200, Flavio Leitner wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 18:21:21 +0100
> Holger Berndt <berndth at gmx.de> wrote:
> [...]
> > As Mones said, the Python plugin is also an alternative. An
> > auto/compose_any script will be called everytime a compose window is
> > opened (be it composing a new message, replying, forwarding).
> > 
> > You you don't want this to happen automatically, but to have a
> > separate menu item that opens a reply window and does some work in it,
> > that's also possible with the Python plugin. You could assign a
> > keyboard shortcut to it, or dump it into the toolbar.
> > 
> > The normal way would be to do your modifications in Python directly
> > in this case. It would also be possible to trigger menu items in the
> > compose window - however, a quick look seems to indicate that for some
> > strange reason Actions are not directly accessible. That isn't really a
> > blocker, though, as it should be possible to mimic script invokation
> > in Python directly.
> 
> Looks like the python plugin is the way to go. Is there any
> example out there that you recommend for me to take a look?
> 
> I know python, but I don't know the plugin interface.

  Check 'Show Python Console...' on Tools menu, then on console prompt
type: help(clawsmail)

  The examples directory in the source code can be helpful too.

  regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  bash: ./signature: No such file or directory              /bin/bash

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec 10 15:22:35 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:22:35 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2835] add_address() in addr_compl.c should allow a
	NULL name
In-Reply-To: <bug-2835-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2835-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121210142235.4FC41853E0@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2835





--- Comment #3 from users  2012-12-10 15:22:34 ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest CVS and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://www.claws-mail.org/tracker/

2012-12-10 [mones]    3.9.0cvs45

    * src/addr_compl.c
        Fix bug #2835 (core part) to allow NULL names which
        have an address

-- 
Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email
------- You are receiving this mail because: -------
You are the assignee for the bug.


From ricardo at mones.org  Mon Dec 10 15:33:20 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:33:20 +0100
Subject: [Users] address-keeper plugin and address completion
In-Reply-To: <20121209042804.023a1fad@dub>
References: <20121209042804.023a1fad@dub>
Message-ID: <20121210143320.GH10614@trasgu>

  Hi Neels,

On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 04:28:04AM +0100, Neels Hofmeyr wrote:
> Hi Ricardo, hi users,
> 
> I was annoyed by the fact that the address keeper plugin fails to push
> new addresses into the address completion immediately. So I hunted it
> down and came up with the two patches attached to claws bug #2835
> 
> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2835
> 
> The descriptions there ended up being a bit convoluted because the
> many description fields made me write many descriptions, sorry about
> that ;)
> 
> Basically, to get immediate updates working, the address-keeper plugin
> should refresh the address book. But if the 'name' of the recipient is
> empty, claws-mail still drops it from address completion because of some
> obscure condition in addr_compl.c, and that's what my patch for
> claws-mail tries to fix. With both patches applied, it works the way
> I'd expect it to, crossing fingers against any adverse effects.
> 
> I'm using these patches now. I hope that you have time to look at them,
> and maybe even improve and/or commit them?

  Not having side effects so far, so both committed.

  Many thanks for spotting this! :-)
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.          Carl Sagan

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From linxt at comcast.net  Mon Dec 10 19:13:11 2012
From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:13:11 -0800
Subject: [Users] Message shows strange redirection (reveals censorship)
In-Reply-To: <20121210115155.18f8d97e@at8-g250-b.exdeowg>
References: <20121210115155.18f8d97e@at8-g250-b.exdeowg>
Message-ID: <20121210101311.197e117b@desktop-1.home>

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:51:55 +0100
Miroslav Rovis <m.rovis at inet.hr> wrote:

> The techical issue of this article is at very end, marked with
> litteral string: "the technical issue".
> 
> Only because, and I do express reserved thanks here to Google central,
> because the fact that none of my videos that I posted to Youtube is
> missing, and contrary to the probably pressure on Google by the local
> regime of my country's, since my e-mails that I send and my e-mails
> that people send to me, are massacred, let me repeat, e-mails I send
> to people and e-mails people send to me, are massacred by the local
> stupid regime I live under (but which is somewhat, somewhat only,
> God, how deep the brainwash in people's minds!, shaking)...
> 
> And I thank them for the fact that none are missing of my screencasts
> of my mailings (and other activities) videos, of which videoa some
> are (or would become in case of denial of their service), somewhat
> notorious and even popular (local Youtube is allowed to manipulate
> numbers of viewings, so don't be misled by low numbers), and my
> videos are a long-standing proof of their censorship...
> 
> And for the fact that none the posted screencasts on Youtube have been
> deleted or hidden (other than me placing the longer and more boring
> ones among "unlisted")...
> 
> And only for that fact that Youtube don't delete or hide videos people
> post, for which fact I thank both Google and Youtube (but, pls.
> understand me, not the local regime branches, no!, they do play pranks
> on my videos! and on mails and postings; only they haven't got permit
> to delete videos I posted, and I bet, I bet, I bet they tried! Let me
> make it a little more spicy here, by the fact that they got one
> country in the world to blacklist a couple of my videos, and that
> country is the one that people worldwide are unaware how stupidly left
> it turned: Germany!, yes, the Soviet style EU hegemon!... I think two
> videos, and really unwarranted before God and men!).
> 
> And since they didn't want to be discovered and just had to let
> through in a very particular way one important e-mail to me, I can
> proof now their censorship on me!
> 
> They would have been discovered because of this video that I mentioned
> three days ago now:
> 
> > I'm at a choked connection, taking me 8 hours to post 800M video...
> 
> It is unlisted because it is one of those too difficult for the
> general public to watch, and belive me, I was sick of video cutting
> and pasting, to make the video more easily viewed and shorter, and
> just posted it as my friend ffmpeg took it:
> 
> (WARNED you have been!):
> Dopuštenje za uporabu Markovih pjesama uz nekoliko minuta Vukovara,
> Screen 2012 12 07, 12h
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzy4eTlOGqA
> 
> And then what happens? I wish I could write bilingual here as well,
> because this thread on Claws mailing list is certainly of interest to
> domestic audience, but, never mind, it'll be there on:
> http://groups.google.com/group/croatian-news/
> it'll be there in English, and it'll be there in Croatian, once I
> traslate it, hopefully, and it'll be in Youtube screencast with a
> commnent, probably.
> 
> But then what happens? My gay, happy, beautiful, privider, since
> they regularly sift through my e-mails, never mind the privacy
> policy, c'mmon!, what, they have to endear themselves to the regime,
> don't they?...
> 
> So they read the messages exchanged btwn the Thompson's Band
> manager (Marko Perković Thompson is without any argument whatsoever,
> the Croatian singer that has in entire our history, had the largest
> following of sympathizers and fans, and despite of to the excessive
> and abusive and persistent campaign of the regime and media against
> him, such as being himself currently, or maybe soon to be, judicially
> accused and smeared for invented tax fraud or similar; so in such
> circumstances I am also proud to have been persecuted by a regime that
> persecutes the righteous like him, mind that I had 4 months jail time
> suspended sentence over me, two years caution recently elapsed).
> 
> He got his nickname "Thompson", because in the war of defence that
> Croatia waged, but for which Croatia also stood accused in the
> persons of its top generals, and for which the International Court
> Tribunal for former Yugoslavia (ICTY) in the Haague recently cleared
> the remaining accused generals of the Republic of Croatia of all the
> wrongdoings whatsoever, and declared them innocent before the world,
> pls. see (only in Croatian at this time):
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THU-YOGCf2A
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcsYoyQ3LcU
> and other videos, just search by, maybe, these "2012-11-16" and
> "Generali" but, wait, if you want the most beautiful scenes, go for
> the afternoon videos of the day:
> HTV, 2012-11-16 14h 30m, Zagreb: Generali Gotovina Markač, povratak!
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AnzNqRejO8
> 
> But I was recounting how Marko Perković got his nickname "Thompson"
> because he was a Fighter armed with a Thompson rifle at the beginning
> of the War of Croatian Independence back in 1991.
> 
> And there you have a manager of his band, that is liked and followed
> the most in Croatia (no other singer packed Croatian stadia and
> venues as full as he did, ever), replying to me, and then what
> apparently happens is, the local little Google happy gay employees
> gets Thompson's manager's message on Croatian-News, because it was
> sent as I intended it to be sent, having I added to my query's mail
> header:
> 
> Reply-To: croatian-news at googlegroups.com
> 
> I was asking for a permit, and permits are public, aren't they, and so
> I was asking publicly, am I not allowed to?
> 
> No, I was not. No way! Were that the first time people tried to
> publicly reply to me, or publicly support me, or publicly say they
> appreciated what I did, and little local Google Croatia bullies
> scrapped what people publicly sent to me, I wouldn't even mind so
> much.
> 
> But that has been the regular way they have treated anyone trying to
> contact me publicly via: 
> 
> http://groups.google.com/group/croatian-news/
> 
> http://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/croatian-news/
> 
> (the above are the old and the new interface to same content)
> 
> for years now. For years now.
> 
> A recent example (I learned screencasting for anti-censorship purposes
> only relatively recently) is:
> 
> Complaint to Google Central about Google HR Censorship, Screen
> 2012-11-15, 23h
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XagBbgR75h4
> 
> and later developments (some of it yet to come, God permitting)
> 
> what free speech? No free speech! None for dissenters, as far as they
> go!
> 
> Come on! Give me a little break!
> 
> Before going on to technicalities, let me give you a link to the more
> user-friendly video on this undeniable censorship issue, that I made
> when it finally dawned on me what happened with these mails in
> question:
> 
> Lectio 9 2012-12-09, msg. from Thompson's, Iskon & Croatian-News
> Collude in Abuse, HRVATSKI
> http://youtu.be/x0vyGR8YBc0
> 
> #=== the technical issue
> Now I do believe I got it right. But, you more knowledgeable people
> then me who have granted me the honor of reading this article you're
> reading, pls. look up the source of the reply email in question that I
> attach
> ( Src_MAIL_121209_Thompson_permit_Vukovar_REPLY_ZdravkoBarišić.txt ).
> I am still new to Claws, but I got the source saved through GUI
> interface, and I also did a search (in my mailbox), like so:
> 
> $ grep -r 'njegove pjesme su mi
> najdra' /Cmn/Cm/m.rovis-iskon.hr/inbox/ /Cmn/Cm/m.rovis-iskon.hr/inbox/1603:Vrlo
> cienim Marka i njegove pjesme su mi najdra=C5=BEe, te nisam mario ni
> za /Cmn/Cm/m.rovis-iskon.hr/inbox/1606:Vrlo cienim Marka i njegove
> pjesme su mi najdra=BEe, te nisam mario ni =
> /Cmn/Cm/m.rovis-iskon.hr/inbox/1605:Vrlo cienim Marka i njegove pjesme
> su mi najdraže, te nisam mario ni za
> $
> 
> "njegove pjesme su mi najdra" is a string from the original e-mail I
> sent, meaning "his songs are dearest to me" ('najdraže' instead of
> 'najdra' in fact, for full Croatian phrase). 
> 
> Those were my words actually, so the search gave my mail and the
> replies (the copy of what I sent via www.thompson.hr and the manager's
> reply). So I went on and searched for manager's words only.
> 
> $ grep -r 'nama je u interesu da se Markove pjesme što više
> čuju' /Cmn/Cm/m.rovis-iskon.hr/inbox/
> $ grep -r "nama je u interesu da se Markove pjesme što više
> čuju" /Cmn/Cm/m.rovis-iskon.hr/inbox/
> $ grep -r "nama je u
> interesu da se Markove pjesme" /Cmn/Cm/m.rovis-iskon.hr/inbox/
> /Cmn/Cm/m.rovis-iskon.hr/inbox/1606:=A9to se ti=E8e nas, nama je u
> interesu da se Markove pjesme =B9to =
> $ 
> 
> The first of the three latter searches for the string "nama je u
> interesu da se Markove pjesme što više čuju" couldn't be found either
> with ' or ", the two types of quotes, because the original reply from
> Thompson's manager was in iso8859-2 character encoding (uses Windoze,
> what can you).
> You can see that in the source mail itself ("Microsoft Office
> Outlook").
> 
> But, since I'm new to Claws, I don't know what the best way is to send
> the source mail, I did now some 20 minutes search, and came up with no
> useful tips...
> 
> So I just have to venture and send it as plain text. I warmly hope it
> doesn't clutter this text further, since it is already lengthy.
> 
> (I inserted newlines in the pasted output, because the
> line wrapping can be confusing)
> 
> $ md5sum /Cmn/Cm/m.rovis-iskon.hr/inbox/1606
> 
> Src_MAIL_121209_Thompson_permit_Vukovar_REPLY_ZdravkoBarišić.txt
> 
> ec37bd4a741b117f46ac92efded9bfb1  /Cmn/Cm/m.rovis-iskon.hr/inbox/1606
> 
> ec37bd4a741b117f46ac92efded9bfb1
> Src_MAIL_121209_Thompson_permit_Vukovar_REPLY_ZdravkoBarišić.txt
> 
> $
> 
> or if you want sha256, then (I inserted newlines, because the
> line wrapping can be confusing):
> 
> $ sha256sum /Cmn/Cm/m.rovis-iskon.hr/inbox/1606
> Src_MAIL_121209_Thompson_permit_Vukovar_REPLY_ZdravkoBarišić.txt
> 
> b5e2b4588530c5828c536aa185dbe0631e74b36bdb8f4436c80abc62926d1146  /Cmn/Cm/m.rovis-iskon.hr/inbox/1606
> 
> b5e2b4588530c5828c536aa185dbe0631e74b36bdb8f4436c80abc62926d1146
> Src_MAIL_121209_Thompson_permit_Vukovar_REPLY_ZdravkoBarišić.txt
> 
> $
> 
> Am I correct that:
> 
> Line 3:
> Received: (qmail 215653 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2012 13:51:50
> +0100
> 
> Google sent this message to:
> 
> Line 5:
> Received: from in4.mail.iskon.hr (213.191.133.69)
> 
> gay (meaning happy, cheerful, joyous) gay Iskon provider!
> 
> This,
> 
> Line 10:
> X-Remote-IP: 78.46.99.110
> 
> being the Google IP, Google mail, Gmail (?, really not in the clear on
> that one, because, pls. read on)
> 
> Because there's this address as well:
> 
> Line 14:
> Received: from 8-226.dsl.iskon.hr ([89.164.8.226]:1143 helo=barisicpc)
> 
> "barisicpc" being apparently Zdravko Barišić, Thompson's manager, but
> I don't get that entire line.
> 
> Is he with the same provider, I mean,
> 
> Line 29:
> X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - inet.hr
> 
> But I just looked up and saw that:
> 
> Line 28:
> X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - carbon.studio4web.com
> 
> is a web hosting firm in the making, so...
> it's them who are probably with gay joyous Iskon provider, the happy
> free speech loving and not ever any mails of their users reading
> (according
> to their claims, ever!!) provider.
> 
> Line 46:
> X-SpamTest-Info: {RECEIVED: dynamic ip detected}
> 
> and the lines following is,  I guess, is because I was using Tor to
> send query from their interface.
> 
> That same query I also sent from my
> Claws mail program, and I also posted the WARNED you have been!-marked
> screencast, unlisted on Youtube, link above that I gave.
> 
> But I may be wrong as to what the lines 46 and immediately following
> refer to.
> 
> 
> Also, I just checked and saw that thompson.hr is done as it should 
> be, in utf-8 encoding, so why my message to which Thompson's manager
> replies is in his e-mail shown in garbled, from the aspect of a user,
> ŠĐŽĆČšđžćč, it's probably because of his own Outlook program... Not
> from everybody is expected to be knowledgeable about char encoding, so
> this is by no means a reproach. I respect these guys, and am thankful
> to them for their love of Croatia and the beautiful songs they make!
> 
> So, and I of course, have to thank Claws-mail developers for the fine
> program that revealed the strange redirection to me, and I really
> believe I was right in my assumptions that can be viewed and listened
> to on Youtube about this instance of censorship
> 
> (again: Lectio 9 2012-12-09, msg. from Thompson's, Iskon &
> Croatian-News Collude in Abuse, HRVATSKI  http://youtu.be/x0vyGR8YBc0
> )
> 
> , bacause to me, as somewhat experienced user, it
> does appear that the message was sent by Google Mail service, whithout
> which sending to Iskon for Iskon's forwarding it on to me, I wouldn't
> have received anything whatsoever, regardless that I sent
> my query in different and diverse, can be said, in triple ways.
> 
> That, on the other hand, could not have been done without my dear
> gay happy Iskon and bully local little Google HR exchanging opinions
> and deciding together what to do and what to send, and what not to
> allow, and so forth... May you be ashamed, both of you, Iskon and
> Google HR!
> 
> The tech is over in this message. Let me just point you to what I said
> about the kind of people who hold power in Croatia.
> 
> I talk about them from 9 minutes 30 seconds of this
> video (the last six minutes):
> Claws-mail, garbled ŠĐŽĆČ and why
> http://youtu.be/EYcQzzSeU5w
> 
> God bless all of you.
> Thanks if anyone gives more light to the source mail that I attached
> ( Src_MAIL_121209_Thompson_permit_Vukovar_REPLY_ZdravkoBarišić.txt )!
> 



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From berndth at gmx.de  Mon Dec 10 22:14:13 2012
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:14:13 +0100
Subject: [Users] how to reply and run an action
In-Reply-To: <20121210085907.4279d63f@obelix.rh>
References: <20121207193711.14c3ad98@obelix.rh> <20121208182121.72d5a5f0@wodan>
	<20121210085907.4279d63f@obelix.rh>
Message-ID: <20121210221413.6afcde53@wodan>

On Mo, 10.12.2012 08:59, Flavio Leitner wrote:

>Looks like the python plugin is the way to go. Is there any
>example out there that you recommend for me to take a look?

Basically, you would choose Tools -> Python scripts -> Browse. This
should open a file browser, where you would navigate to the "main"
subdirectory. There, you would create a file - let's call it
"reply-modify". The contents would look somewhat like this:

#=============8<====================8<===================8<==============
import subprocess as sp

# Invoke "Reply" menu item
clawsmail.get_mainwindow_action_group().get_action("Message/Reply").activate()

# The last opened ComposeWindow object is accessible as "clawsmail.compose_window"
# Now, one would typically use PyGTK to modify the message body, which is
# accessible as GtkTextView in "clawsmail.compose_window.text".
# Menu items could also be called on the compose window via
# "clawsmail.compose_window.ui_manager" - but as I said, for some strange reason
# Claws Mail doesn't seem to put Compose Window Actions there.
# So, get the body text as a string, use Python commands to operate on it, or
# call external commands via Python, and write it back.
body_buffer = clawsmail.compose_window.text.get_buffer()
old_body = body_buffer.props.text
proc = sp.Popen(["tr", "[a-z]", "[A-Z]"], stdin=sp.PIPE, stdout=sp.PIPE, stderr=sp.STDOUT)
new_body = proc.communicate(old_body)[0]
body_buffer.props.text = new_body
#=============8<====================8<===================8<==============

(This example calls "tr [a-z] [A-Z]" on the body to convert it to upper
case.)

Then you would choose Tools -> Python scripts -> Refresh (or restart
Claws Mail).

You could then assign a keyboard shortcut to the script like it's done
for other menu items in Claws Mail, or you could add the script to your
toolbar via Configuration -> Preferences -> Toolbars -> Main Window
(Item type "Plugins").

>I know python, but I don't know the plugin interface.

The startup script in the examples directory adds a "Python API
Documentation" entry in Claws Mail's help menu, which introspects the clawsmail
module and generates HTML on-the-fly. That might be easier to browse than the
console view that Mones told you about.

Holger


From w1pns at comcast.net  Tue Dec 11 00:24:39 2012
From: w1pns at comcast.net (Peter Spotts)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:24:39 -0500
Subject: [Users] Running into CC problems
Message-ID: <20121210182439.65afdd3b@w1pns>


Hi folks,

I've run into a bit of trouble addressing emails and didn't reaily find
anything on this during what may have been a too-hasty look in the
archives.

When I enter an address in the initial address line, a new address
line pops up underneath the initial one. So far so good(?). 

But, when I finish the address in the first line and drop to the second
line and select either another To: or a CC:, when I begin typing the
address, the cursor pops back up to the first level, which gets cleaned
of its original address, and that's where my typing appears. 

And, if you act now... 

When the cursor jumps back up to the first address line, the To: field
takes on the attribute of the field from which the cursor jumped -- if
I used To: in the first address line and CC: in the second, when the
cursor jumps back up, the first line automatically chages to CC:. 

This has happened on 3.8 as well as now on 3.9. I'm running Ubuntu 12.10
(and previously 12.04).

Any hints as to where I should look to fix this. Or is it bug-report
time?

With best regards,

Pete

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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Tue Dec 11 01:29:50 2012
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:29:50 -0500
Subject: [Users] How to Extended quicksearch messages with attachments?
Message-ID: <20121210192950.4d26eb2a@mydesk>

Hi all,

How do I extended quicksearch messages that have attachments? I clicked
the Information button, but it contained nothing about attachments.

Thanks,

SteveT

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                          *  http://twitter.com/stevelitt
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From fbl at sysclose.org  Tue Dec 11 02:05:57 2012
From: fbl at sysclose.org (Flavio Leitner)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 23:05:57 -0200
Subject: [Users] how to reply and run an action
In-Reply-To: <20121210221413.6afcde53@wodan>
References: <20121207193711.14c3ad98@obelix.rh> <20121208182121.72d5a5f0@wodan>
	<20121210085907.4279d63f@obelix.rh> <20121210221413.6afcde53@wodan>
Message-ID: <20121210230557.3538ef63@obelix.rh>

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:14:13 +0100
Holger Berndt <berndth at gmx.de> wrote:

> On Mo, 10.12.2012 08:59, Flavio Leitner wrote:
> 
> >Looks like the python plugin is the way to go. Is there any
> >example out there that you recommend for me to take a look?
> 
> Basically, you would choose Tools -> Python scripts -> Browse. This
> should open a file browser, where you would navigate to the "main"
> subdirectory. There, you would create a file - let's call it
> "reply-modify". The contents would look somewhat like this:
> 
> #=============8<====================8<===================8<==============
> import subprocess as sp
> 
> # Invoke "Reply" menu item
> clawsmail.get_mainwindow_action_group().get_action("Message/Reply").activate()
> 
> # The last opened ComposeWindow object is accessible as "clawsmail.compose_window"
> # Now, one would typically use PyGTK to modify the message body, which is
> # accessible as GtkTextView in "clawsmail.compose_window.text".
> # Menu items could also be called on the compose window via
> # "clawsmail.compose_window.ui_manager" - but as I said, for some strange reason
> # Claws Mail doesn't seem to put Compose Window Actions there.
> # So, get the body text as a string, use Python commands to operate on it, or
> # call external commands via Python, and write it back.
> body_buffer = clawsmail.compose_window.text.get_buffer()
> old_body = body_buffer.props.text
> proc = sp.Popen(["tr", "[a-z]", "[A-Z]"], stdin=sp.PIPE, stdout=sp.PIPE, stderr=sp.STDOUT)
> new_body = proc.communicate(old_body)[0]
> body_buffer.props.text = new_body
> #=============8<====================8<===================8<==============
> 
> (This example calls "tr [a-z] [A-Z]" on the body to convert it to upper
> case.)
> 
> Then you would choose Tools -> Python scripts -> Refresh (or restart
> Claws Mail).
> 
> You could then assign a keyboard shortcut to the script like it's done
> for other menu items in Claws Mail, or you could add the script to your
> toolbar via Configuration -> Preferences -> Toolbars -> Main Window
> (Item type "Plugins").
> 
> >I know python, but I don't know the plugin interface.
> 
> The startup script in the examples directory adds a "Python API
> Documentation" entry in Claws Mail's help menu, which introspects the clawsmail
> module and generates HTML on-the-fly. That might be easier to browse than the
> console view that Mones told you about.

That's a big help. Thank you so much. Unfortunately the code didn't
work as the reply content's window isn't modified by 'tr'.
Any idea?

I have my script ready to work like 'tr', so I am almost there :-)
thanks in advance!
-- 
fbl


From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Tue Dec 11 02:35:51 2012
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:35:51 -0800
Subject: [Users] How to Extended quicksearch messages with attachments?
In-Reply-To: <20121210192950.4d26eb2a@mydesk>
References: <20121210192950.4d26eb2a@mydesk>
Message-ID: <20121210173551.01b52bce@from-theboss.911networks.com>

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:29:50 -0500
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

>How do I extended quicksearch messages that have attachments? I
>clicked the Information button, but it contained nothing about
>attachments.

Extended | Edit | Flags | Has Attachment  | is set or is not set

-- 
Thanks
http://www.911networks.com
When the network has to work


From linxt at comcast.net  Tue Dec 11 07:29:11 2012
From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:29:11 -0800
Subject: [Users] Running into CC problems
In-Reply-To: <20121210182439.65afdd3b@w1pns>
References: <20121210182439.65afdd3b@w1pns>
Message-ID: <20121210222911.40126eaf@desktop-1.home>

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:24:39 -0500
Peter Spotts <w1pns at comcast.net> wrote:

> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> I've run into a bit of trouble addressing emails and didn't reaily
> find anything on this during what may have been a too-hasty look in
> the archives.
> 
> When I enter an address in the initial address line, a new address
> line pops up underneath the initial one. So far so good(?). 
> 
> But, when I finish the address in the first line and drop to the
> second line and select either another To: or a CC:, when I begin
> typing the address, the cursor pops back up to the first level, which
> gets cleaned of its original address, and that's where my typing
> appears. 
> 
> And, if you act now... 
> 
> When the cursor jumps back up to the first address line, the To: field
> takes on the attribute of the field from which the cursor jumped -- if
> I used To: in the first address line and CC: in the second, when the
> cursor jumps back up, the first line automatically chages to CC:. 
> 
> This has happened on 3.8 as well as now on 3.9. I'm running Ubuntu
> 12.10 (and previously 12.04).
> 
> Any hints as to where I should look to fix this. Or is it bug-report
> time?
> 
> With best regards,
> 
> Pete
> 

This also happens under openSUSE 12.2.  I'm told by recipients that it
does work (sends to multiple people) but it puts every address on the
first address line.

Tom

-- 
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy
enough people to make it worth the effort.
    Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
--
Tom Taylor - retired penguin
AMD Phenom II x4 955 -- 4GB RAM -- 2x1.5TB sata2
openSUSE 12.1x86_64    openSUSE 12.2x86_64
KDE 4.7.2, FF 7.0      KDE 4.9.1, FF 15.0
claws-mail 3.8.0
registered linux user 263467
linxt-At-comcast-DoT-net


From andrej at kacian.sk  Tue Dec 11 07:51:39 2012
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:51:39 +0100
Subject: [Users] Running into CC problems
In-Reply-To: <20121210222911.40126eaf@desktop-1.home>
References: <20121210182439.65afdd3b@w1pns>
	<20121210222911.40126eaf@desktop-1.home>
Message-ID: <20121211075139.61d676f4@penny>

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:29:11 -0800
Thomas Taylor <linxt at comcast.net> wrote:

> This also happens under openSUSE 12.2.  I'm told by recipients that it
> does work (sends to multiple people) but it puts every address on the
> first address line.

Are you sure the recipient list doesn't just scroll up when adding new people?
Look for a little scrollbar on the right.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian dot sk>


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 11 09:24:54 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:24:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] How to Extended quicksearch messages with attachments?
In-Reply-To: <20121210192950.4d26eb2a@mydesk>
References: <20121210192950.4d26eb2a@mydesk>
Message-ID: <20121211082454.3536eea0@thewildbeast>

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:29:50 -0500
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote: 

> How do I extended quicksearch messages that have attachments? I
> clicked the Information button, but it contained nothing about
> attachments.

Choose Match criteria 'Flags' and the 'Flag' dropdown includes 'Has
attachment'.

Or, alternately, you could use a 'Phrase' in 'Body part', as detailed
here:
http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Filtering_and_Processing_of_Messages#Can_I_filter_messages_based_on_Content-Type_of_attachments.2C_for_example_.22application.2Fx-msdownload.22.3F

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Sat Dec  8 09:00:56 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 08:00:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] Further crash in cvs44
In-Reply-To: <20121207121606.00003e0a@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20121206195546.67b218b5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121207103756.386da81a@colin>
	<20121207121606.00003e0a@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20121208080056.2c7f2da7@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>

On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 12:16:06 +0000
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 10:37:56 +0100
> Colin Leroy wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 19:55:46 +0000, Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Here's the backtrace...
> > 
> > That's the same... Can you upgrade to cvs44? and if it keeps crashing,
> > keep reporting :)
> > 
> 
> Will do, it will probably be a day or so before I do it though.
> 

Same thing has happened again, I think:

[New LWP 9063]
[New LWP 9066]
[New LWP 9084]
[New LWP 9090]
[New LWP 29649]
[New LWP 29653]
[New LWP 29650]
[New LWP 29648]
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
Using host libthread_db library "/lib64/libthread_db.so.1".
warning: "/var/cache/abrt-di/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib64/libicudata.so.48.1.1.debug": separate debug info file has no debug info
Core was generated by `claws-mail'.
Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
#0  g_io_channel_unref (channel=0x3450414d49205d31) at giochannel.c:248
248	  is_zero = g_atomic_int_dec_and_test (&channel->ref_count);

Thread 8 (Thread 0x7fc54b28e700 (LWP 29648)):
#0  pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:166
No locals.
#1  0x00007fc54975e5e7 in WTF::TCMalloc_PageHeap::scavengerThread (this=0x7fc549a3aba0) at Source/JavaScriptCore/wtf/FastMalloc.cpp:2551
No locals.
#2  0x00007fc54975e619 in WTF::TCMalloc_PageHeap::runScavengerThread (context=<optimized out>) at Source/JavaScriptCore/wtf/FastMalloc.cpp:1628
No locals.
#3  0x0000003744a07d14 in start_thread (arg=0x7fc54b28e700) at pthread_create.c:309
        __res = <optimized out>
        pd = 0x7fc54b28e700
        now = <optimized out>
        unwind_buf = {cancel_jmp_buf = {{jmp_buf = {140485346256640, -1179809548195928172, 0, 30896032, 140485346256640, 21, 1165006401035757460, -1166731132406536300}, mask_was_saved = 0}}, priv = {pad = {0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0}, data = {prev = 0x0, cleanup = 0x0, canceltype = 0}}}
        not_first_call = 0
        pagesize_m1 = <optimized out>
        sp = <optimized out>
        freesize = <optimized out>
#4  0x00000037442f168d in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:115
No locals.

Thread 7 (Thread 0x7fc4ec7ed700 (LWP 29650)):
#0  0x00000037442e8bdf in __GI___poll (fds=<optimized out>, nfds=<optimized out>, timeout=<optimized out>) at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c:87
        resultvar = <optimized out>
        oldtype = 0
        result = <optimized out>
#1  0x0000003746e47af4 in g_main_context_poll (n_fds=1, fds=0x7fc4e40010e0, timeout=-1, context=0x204f4e0, priority=<optimized out>) at gmain.c:3440
        poll_func = 0x3746e55910 <g_poll>
#2  g_main_context_iterate (context=0x204f4e0, block=block at entry=1, dispatch=dispatch at entry=1, self=<optimized out>) at gmain.c:3141
        max_priority = 2147483647
        timeout = -1
        some_ready = <optimized out>
        nfds = 1
        allocated_nfds = <optimized out>
        fds = 0x7fc4e40010e0
#3  0x0000003746e47f52 in g_main_loop_run (loop=0x7fc4e40010c0) at gmain.c:3340
        __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "g_main_loop_run"
#4  0x00007fc540252b0b in dconf_context_thread (data=0x204f4e0) at dconfcontext.c:11
        context = 0x204f4e0
        loop = <optimized out>
        __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "dconf_context_thread"
#5  0x0000003746e6a495 in g_thread_proxy (data=0x22a8a30) at gthread.c:801
        thread = 0x22a8a30
#6  0x0000003744a07d14 in start_thread (arg=0x7fc4ec7ed700) at pthread_create.c:309
        __res = <optimized out>
        pd = 0x7fc4ec7ed700
        now = <optimized out>
        unwind_buf = {cancel_jmp_buf = {{jmp_buf = {140483758053120, -1179809548195928172, 0, 237359988736, 140483758053120, 33879264, 1164639593111938964, -1166731132406536300}, mask_was_saved = 0}}, priv = {pad = {0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0}, data = {prev = 0x0, cleanup = 0x0, canceltype = 0}}}
        not_first_call = 0
        pagesize_m1 = <optimized out>
        sp = <optimized out>
        freesize = <optimized out>
#7  0x00000037442f168d in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:115
No locals.

Thread 6 (Thread 0x7fc4eb7eb700 (LWP 29653)):
#0  pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_timedwait.S:218
No locals.
#1  0x00007fc54977df1c in WTF::ThreadCondition::timedWait (this=0x7fc55011f4b8, mutex=..., absoluteTime=<optimized out>) at Source/JavaScriptCore/wtf/ThreadingPthreads.cpp:415
        timeSeconds = <optimized out>
        timeNanoseconds = <optimized out>
        targetTime = {tv_sec = 1354938757, tv_nsec = 874589920}
#2  0x00007fc5495e6602 in JSC::Heap::waitForRelativeTime (this=0x7fc55011eac8, relative=<optimized out>) at Source/JavaScriptCore/heap/Heap.cpp:407
No locals.
#3  0x00007fc5495e6665 in JSC::Heap::blockFreeingThreadMain (this=0x7fc55011eac8) at Source/JavaScriptCore/heap/Heap.cpp:420
        currentNumberOfFreeBlocks = <optimized out>
        desiredNumberOfFreeBlocks = <optimized out>
#4  0x00007fc54977d87e in WTF::wtfThreadEntryPoint (param=0x3b16360) at Source/JavaScriptCore/wtf/ThreadingPthreads.cpp:162
No locals.
#5  0x0000003744a07d14 in start_thread (arg=0x7fc4eb7eb700) at pthread_create.c:309
        __res = <optimized out>
        pd = 0x7fc4eb7eb700
        now = <optimized out>
        unwind_buf = {cancel_jmp_buf = {{jmp_buf = {140483741267712, -1179809548195928172, 0, 237359988736, 140483741267712, 140485428639480, 1164654989495953300, -1166731132406536300}, mask_was_saved = 0}}, priv = {pad = {0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0}, data = {prev = 0x0, cleanup = 0x0, canceltype = 0}}}
        not_first_call = 0
        pagesize_m1 = <optimized out>
        sp = <optimized out>
        freesize = <optimized out>
#6  0x00000037442f168d in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:115
No locals.

Thread 5 (Thread 0x7fc540e5b700 (LWP 29649)):
#0  pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:166
No locals.
#1  0x00007fc542d9b6eb in WebCore::IconDatabase::syncThreadMainLoop (this=0x7fc55005b000) at Source/WebCore/loader/icon/IconDatabase.cpp:1449
        didAnyWork = <optimized out>
        shouldReenableSuddenTermination = false
#2  0x00007fc542d9b9dd in WebCore::IconDatabase::iconDatabaseSyncThread (this=0x7fc55005b000) at Source/WebCore/loader/icon/IconDatabase.cpp:1061
        journalFilename = {m_impl = {m_ptr = 0x7fc550068c98}}
#3  0x00007fc54977d87e in WTF::wtfThreadEntryPoint (param=0x16b5f80) at Source/JavaScriptCore/wtf/ThreadingPthreads.cpp:162
No locals.
#4  0x0000003744a07d14 in start_thread (arg=0x7fc540e5b700) at pthread_create.c:309
        __res = <optimized out>
        pd = 0x7fc540e5b700
        now = <optimized out>
        unwind_buf = {cancel_jmp_buf = {{jmp_buf = {140485174081280, -1179809548195928172, 0, 237359988736, 140485174081280, 24, 1165016943569856404, -1166731132406536300}, mask_was_saved = 0}}, priv = {pad = {0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0}, data = {prev = 0x0, cleanup = 0x0, canceltype = 0}}}
        not_first_call = 0
        pagesize_m1 = <optimized out>
        sp = <optimized out>
        freesize = <optimized out>
#5  0x00000037442f168d in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:115
No locals.

Thread 4 (Thread 0x7fc548fd9700 (LWP 9090)):
#0  pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:166
No locals.
#1  0x000000374ee31733 in mailsem_internal_wait (s=0x2f2cad0) at mailsem.c:121
        r = <optimized out>
#2  0x00000000005e3de9 in etpan_thread_free (thread=0x2ec3690) at etpan-thread-manager.c:177
No locals.
#3  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.

Thread 3 (Thread 0x7fc54a469700 (LWP 9084)):
#0  0x00000037442e8bdf in __GI___poll (fds=<optimized out>, nfds=<optimized out>, timeout=<optimized out>) at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c:87
        resultvar = <optimized out>
        oldtype = 0
        result = <optimized out>
#1  0x0000003746e47af4 in g_main_context_poll (n_fds=3, fds=0x7fc53c0010c0, timeout=-1, context=0x7fc544007b00, priority=<optimized out>) at gmain.c:3440
        poll_func = 0x3746e55910 <g_poll>
#2  g_main_context_iterate (context=0x7fc544007b00, block=block at entry=1, dispatch=dispatch at entry=1, self=<optimized out>) at gmain.c:3141
        max_priority = 2147483647
        timeout = -1
        some_ready = <optimized out>
        nfds = 3
        allocated_nfds = <optimized out>
        fds = 0x7fc53c0010c0
#3  0x0000003746e47f52 in g_main_loop_run (loop=0x7fc544007ab0) at gmain.c:3340
        __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "g_main_loop_run"
#4  0x000000374c2c94d6 in gdbus_shared_thread_func (user_data=0x7fc544007ad0) at gdbusprivate.c:277
        data = 0x7fc544007ad0
#5  0x0000003746e6a495 in g_thread_proxy (data=0x7fc544006e30) at gthread.c:801
        thread = 0x7fc544006e30
#6  0x0000003744a07d14 in start_thread (arg=0x7fc54a469700) at pthread_create.c:309
        __res = <optimized out>
        pd = 0x7fc54a469700
        now = <optimized out>
        unwind_buf = {cancel_jmp_buf = {{jmp_buf = {140485331425024, -1179809548195928172, 0, 237359988736, 140485331425024, 140485226166992, 1165005114156181396, -1166731132406536300}, mask_was_saved = 0}}, priv = {pad = {0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0}, data = {prev = 0x0, cleanup = 0x0, canceltype = 0}}}
        not_first_call = 0
        pagesize_m1 = <optimized out>
        sp = <optimized out>
        freesize = <optimized out>
#7  0x00000037442f168d in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:115
No locals.

Thread 2 (Thread 0x7fc552782700 (LWP 9066)):
#0  pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/pthread_cond_wait.S:166
No locals.
#1  0x000000374ee31733 in mailsem_internal_wait (s=0x10b33e0) at mailsem.c:121
        r = <optimized out>
#2  0x00000000005e3de9 in etpan_thread_free (thread=0x1082370) at etpan-thread-manager.c:177
No locals.
#3  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.

Thread 1 (Thread 0x7fc55be3ea00 (LWP 9063)):
#0  g_io_channel_unref (channel=0x3450414d49205d31) at giochannel.c:248
        is_zero = <optimized out>
        __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "g_io_channel_unref"
#1  0x00000000005d2e7c in fd_gets (fd=13550416, buf=0x31bd770 "\001", len=17116720) at socket.c:1603
        newline = <optimized out>
        bp = 0x152f760 ""
        n = <optimized out>
#2  0xef00c1a379245200 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#3  0x000000375c07dba0 in ?? () at gtkwidget.c:10332 from /lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#4  0x00007fffb843d338 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#5  0x0000000000e95130 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#6  0x00007fffb843d338 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#7  0x00007fffb843d570 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#8  0x0000000000e987c0 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#9  0x0000000000d65990 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#10 0x0000003747e287c2 in g_signal_emit (instance=<optimized out>, signal_id=<optimized out>, detail=<optimized out>) at gsignal.c:3356
        var_args = {{gp_offset = 24, fp_offset = 48, overflow_arg_area = 0x7fffb843d300, reg_save_area = 0x7fffb843d240}}
#11 0x0000003747e14025 in g_object_dispatch_properties_changed (object=0x5cea6a, n_pspecs=0, pspecs=0x989ad0) at gobject.c:1041
No locals.
#12 0x0000003747e13a76 in g_object_notify_queue_thaw (object=0xe95130 [GtkLabel], nqueue=<optimized out>) at gobject.c:292
        pspecs_mem = {0xd65990 [GParamString], 0x0, 0xd65990 [GParamString], 0xd65990 [GParamString], 0x7fffb843d5d0, 0x38, 0xe95140, 0xe95140, 0x0, 0x3746e2d4b4, 0x2046b50, 0xe95130 [GtkLabel], 0xe95140, 0x3746e839b1, 0xe95130 [GtkLabel], 0x3747e13811}
        pspecs = 0x1
        free_me = 0x0
        slist = <optimized out>
        n_pspecs = <optimized out>
        __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "g_object_notify_queue_thaw"
#13 0x0000003747e1447e in g_object_unref (_object=0xe95130) at gobject.c:2924
        has_toggle_ref = <optimized out>
        object = 0xe95130 [GtkLabel]
        old_ref = 33844048
        __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "g_object_unref"
#14 0x0000003747e0f664 in g_closure_invoke (closure=0xce8360, return_value=0x0, n_param_values=3, param_values=0x7fffb843d5d0, invocation_hint=0x0) at gclosure.c:777
        marshal = 0x3747e0e270 <g_type_class_meta_marshal>
        marshal_data = 0x340
        in_marshal = <optimized out>
        real_closure = 0xce8340
        __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "g_closure_invoke"
#15 0x0000003747e2064d in signal_emit_unlocked_R (node=<optimized out>, detail=0, instance=0x6e02c4, emission_return=0x130, instance_and_params=0x7fffb843db00) at gsignal.c:3685
        accumulator = 0x12fb0c0
        emission = {next = 0x12fb0c0, instance = 0x0, ihint = {signal_id = 29924832, detail = 0, run_type = G_SIGNAL_DEPRECATED}, state = EMISSION_STOP, chain_type = 237370017568}
        class_closure = 0x6e02c7
        hlist = 0x0
        handler_list = 0x0
        return_accu = 0x7fffb843d550
        accu = {g_type = 0, data = {{v_int = 0, v_uint = 0, v_long = 0, v_ulong = 0, v_int64 = 0, v_uint64 = 0, v_float = 0, v_double = 0, v_pointer = 0x0}, {v_int = 17, v_uint = 17, v_long = 223338299409, v_ulong = 223338299409, v_int64 = 223338299409, v_uint64 = 223338299409, v_float = 2.38220739e-44, v_double = 1.1034378113859328e-312, v_pointer = 0x3400000011}}}
        signal_id = 4
        max_sequential_handler_number = 0
        return_value_altered = <optimized out>
#16 0x0000000002eb03f0 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#17 0x0000000002dc9500 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#18 0x0000000000000020 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#19 0x000000000000001e in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#20 0x0000003746e4d50f in g_free (mem=0x3cd5ff0) at gmem.c:252
No locals.
#21 0x0000003746e37311 in g_hash_table_resize (hash_table=0x37445b0720) at ghash.c:604
        new_keys = 0x374428078a
        new_values = 0x1c89de0
        new_hashes = 0x369d490
        old_size = 13106544
        i = <optimized out>
#22 0x00007fffb843dc70 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#23 0x0000000000633d51 in __dso_handle ()
No symbol table info available.
#24 0x00007fffb843dde8 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#25 0x00007fffb843dca0 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#26 0x00007fffb843dc90 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#27 0x0000000000633d51 in __dso_handle ()
No symbol table info available.
#28 0x00007fffb843de08 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#29 0x0000000000633d4f in __dso_handle ()
No symbol table info available.
#30 0x00000037442467dc in _IO_vfprintf_internal (s=<optimized out>, format=<optimized out>, ap=<optimized out>) at vfprintf.c:2002
        _buffer = <error reading variable _buffer (Cannot access memory at address 0xfffffffffffffbc0)>
        _avail = <optimized out>
        thousands_sep = <optimized out>
        grouping = <optimized out>
        done = 19902656
        f = <optimized out>
        lead_str_end = <error reading variable lead_str_end (Cannot access memory at address 0xfffffffffffffaf8)>
        end_of_spec = <optimized out>
        work_buffer = <error reading variable work_buffer (Cannot access memory at address 0xfffffffffffffbe0)>
        workstart = <optimized out>
        workend = <optimized out>
        ap_save = <error reading variable ap_save (Cannot access memory at address 0xfffffffffffffba0)>
        nspecs_done = <optimized out>
        save_errno = <error reading variable save_errno (Cannot access memory at address 0xfffffffffffffaf0)>
        readonly_format = <optimized out>
        args_malloced = <optimized out>
        specs = <optimized out>
        specs_malloced = <optimized out>
        jump_table = "\001\000\000\004\000\016\000\006\000\000\a\002\000\003\t\000\005\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\032\000\031\000\023\023\023\000\035\000\000\f\000\000\000\000\000\000\025\000\000\000\000\022\000\r\000\000\000\000\000\000\032\000\024\017\023\023\023\n\017\034\000\v\030\027\021\026\f\000\025\033\020\000\000\022\000\r"
Backtrace stopped: previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?)
From                To                  Syms Read   Shared Object Library
0x0000003747600680  0x00000037476007fc  Yes         /lib64/libgthread-2.0.so.0
0x0000003756c00dc0  0x0000003756c05cac  Yes         /lib64/libcrypt.so.1
0x0000003758002ea0  0x00000037580080b8  Yes         /lib64/libenchant.so.1
0x000000374be010f0  0x000000374be01fd8  Yes         /lib64/libgmodule-2.0.so.0
0x000000375be69920  0x000000375c10b438  Yes         /lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
0x000000375c61e7c0  0x000000375c6810e4  Yes         /lib64/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
0x0000003750a09b30  0x0000003750a15c04  Yes         /lib64/libatk-1.0.so.0
0x000000374c22eee0  0x000000374c2eaaf4  Yes         /lib64/libgio-2.0.so.0
0x0000003750207600  0x0000003750221bfc  Yes         /lib64/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0
0x000000374fe04910  0x000000374fe09358  Yes         /lib64/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0
0x000000374f206750  0x000000374f219b50  Yes         /lib64/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0
0x000000374fa0b2f0  0x000000374fa8215c  Yes         /lib64/libcairo.so.2
0x000000375060eeb0  0x000000375062d490  Yes         /lib64/libpango-1.0.so.0
0x000000374960cbc0  0x0000003749677870  Yes         /usr/lib64/freetype-freeworld/libfreetype.so.6
0x0000003749e05ef0  0x0000003749e1f6fc  Yes         /lib64/libfontconfig.so.1
0x0000003752806840  0x00000037528243f0  Yes         /lib64/libgpgme.so.11
0x000000375f2040d0  0x000000375f211934  Yes         /lib64/libnsl.so.1
0x0000003764c036a0  0x0000003764c0ab14  Yes         /lib64/liblber-2.4.so.2
0x000000376540f060  0x000000376543d978  Yes         /lib64/libldap-2.4.so.2
0x000000374ce01130  0x000000374ce026b8  Yes         /lib64/libcompface.so.1
0x00000037560095c0  0x000000375602fb8c  Yes         /lib64/libpisock.so.9
0x000000374aa01be0  0x000000374aa05d18  Yes         /lib64/libSM.so.6
0x000000374ae04eb0  0x000000374ae12e1c  Yes         /lib64/libICE.so.6
0x00000037520031b0  0x000000375200680c  Yes         /lib64/libstartup-notification-1.so.0
0x0000003755c0a540  0x0000003755c1c594  Yes         /lib64/libdbus-glib-1.so.2
0x000000374b607890  0x000000374b630924  Yes         /lib64/libdbus-1.so.3
0x0000003744a05790  0x0000003744a10494  Yes         /lib64/libpthread.so.0
0x0000003745202260  0x000000374520554c  Yes         /lib64/librt.so.1
0x0000003747e0a910  0x0000003747e37dbc  Yes         /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
0x0000003746e19d00  0x0000003746eac9cc  Yes         /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
0x00000037446055f0  0x000000374466ca0c  Yes         /lib64/libm.so.6
0x000000374ee2a890  0x000000374ee949fc  Yes         /lib64/libetpan.so.16
0x0000003769809980  0x000000376984c278  Yes         /lib64/libcurl.so.4
0x0000003748a03dd0  0x0000003748a1cccc  Yes         /lib64/libexpat.so.1
0x00000037674189b0  0x0000003767492f2c  Yes         /lib64/libgnutls.so.26
0x000000375f607200  0x000000375f652b48  Yes         /lib64/libgcrypt.so.11
0x000000375e600960  0x000000375e600ed8  Yes         /lib64/libgpg-error.so.0
0x0000003745601f50  0x000000374560e718  Yes         /lib64/libz.so.1
0x0000003752423ae0  0x0000003752545db8  Yes         /lib64/libdb-4.8.so
0x0000003762804840  0x0000003762814504  Yes         /lib64/libsasl2.so.2
0x0000003745e029d0  0x0000003745e12138  Yes         /lib64/libgcc_s.so.1
0x000000374421ef60  0x000000374435f7a0  Yes         /lib64/libc.so.6
0x0000003757403520  0x00000037574424f8  Yes         /lib64/libfreebl3.so
0x0000003744e00ea0  0x0000003744e019e0  Yes         /lib64/libdl.so.2
0x0000003746a1dea0  0x0000003746aa4260  Yes         /lib64/libX11.so.6
0x00000037492014f0  0x0000003749203cf8  Yes         /lib64/libXfixes.so.3
0x0000003747203700  0x000000374720d7d0  Yes         /lib64/libXext.so.6
0x0000003749a01a70  0x0000003749a079e0  Yes         /lib64/libXrender.so.1
0x000000374a600b00  0x000000374a601438  Yes         /lib64/libXinerama.so.1
0x000000374a202130  0x000000374a20bfb4  Yes         /lib64/libXi.so.6
0x000000374b201830  0x000000374b205f34  Yes         /lib64/libXrandr.so.2
0x000000374ba02a80  0x000000374ba076dc  Yes         /lib64/libXcursor.so.1
0x0000003750e00c30  0x0000003750e01774  Yes         /lib64/libXcomposite.so.1
0x000000374e600b90  0x000000374e60159c  Yes         /lib64/libXdamage.so.1
0x0000003747a01950  0x0000003747a060ec  Yes         /lib64/libffi.so.5
0x0000003745a05fc0  0x0000003745a16768  Yes         /lib64/libselinux.so.1
0x00000037462039b0  0x0000003746211e1c  Yes         /lib64/libresolv.so.2
0x0000003748604fa0  0x0000003748620ae0  Yes         /lib64/libpng15.so.15
0x000000374f608d80  0x000000374f672eec  Yes         /lib64/libpixman-1.so.0
0x0000003762c030b0  0x0000003762c0b520  Yes         /lib64/libassuan.so.0
0x0000003743a00b20  0x0000003743a1a2e9  Yes         /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
0x000000375ee0a290  0x000000375ee2fb50  Yes         /lib64/libssl3.so
0x000000375fa09ca0  0x000000375fa22210  Yes         /lib64/libsmime3.so
0x000000375e218ac0  0x000000375e2fba04  Yes         /lib64/libnss3.so
0x000000375d60aa30  0x000000375d615af4  Yes         /lib64/libnssutil3.so
0x000000375da00fb0  0x000000375da01ef8  Yes         /lib64/libplds4.so
0x000000375ce014d0  0x000000375ce02bd4  Yes         /lib64/libplc4.so
0x000000375de0d250  0x000000375de2cc10  Yes         /lib64/libnspr4.so
0x0000003765801710  0x0000003765803284  Yes         /lib64/libusb-0.1.so.4
0x00000037650073c0  0x0000003765012c68  Yes         /lib64/libbluetooth.so.3
0x0000003748e016d0  0x0000003748e02d48  Yes         /lib64/libuuid.so.1
0x00000037534025f0  0x00000037534033a4  Yes         /lib64/libxcb-util.so.0
0x00000037530005c0  0x00000037530006dc  Yes         /lib64/libX11-xcb.so.1
0x00000037466099c0  0x00000037466158d8  Yes         /lib64/libxcb.so.1
0x000000374825bb50  0x00000037482c105b  Yes         /lib64/libstdc++.so.6
0x0000003763802fe0  0x00000037638074d8  Yes         /lib64/libidn.so.11
0x000000374e20ad60  0x000000374e238424  Yes         /lib64/libgssapi_krb5.so.2
0x000000374d61b640  0x000000374d693340  Yes         /lib64/libkrb5.so.3
0x000000374da04490  0x000000374da1c92c  Yes         /lib64/libk5crypto.so.3
0x000000374ca01520  0x000000374ca02114  Yes         /lib64/libcom_err.so.2
0x0000003769c053f0  0x0000003769c1ec08  Yes         /lib64/libssh2.so.1
0x0000003766c01ce0  0x0000003766c0c9e8  Yes         /lib64/libtasn1.so.3
0x0000003765c02cd0  0x0000003765c0ba6c  Yes         /lib64/libp11-kit.so.0
0x0000003762002a00  0x000000376200a588  Yes         /lib64/libusb-1.0.so.0
0x0000003743e00e80  0x0000003743e01bb0  Yes         /lib64/libXau.so.6
0x000000374de02a60  0x000000374de07eac  Yes         /lib64/libkrb5support.so.0
0x000000374d201120  0x000000374d201ac4  Yes         /lib64/libkeyutils.so.1
0x000000374ea14780  0x000000374ea46c94  Yes         /lib64/libssl.so.10
0x000000374c65ca00  0x000000374c724528  Yes         /lib64/libcrypto.so.10
0x00007fc55bc2cd20  0x00007fc55bc36cbc  Yes         /usr/lib64/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so
0x00007fc5555f11b0  0x00007fc5555f867c  Yes         /lib64/libnss_files.so.2
0x00007fc5553ec540  0x00007fc5553ecf50  Yes         /usr/lib64/gconv/ISO8859-1.so
0x00007fc555191b10  0x00007fc5551b26d8  Yes         /usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libclearlooks.so
0x00007fc554f8c6a0  0x00007fc554f8c7b4  Yes         /usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/modules/libpk-gtk-module.so
0x00007fc554d89d00  0x00007fc554d8a228  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/newmail.so
0x00007fc554b83500  0x00007fc554b8485c  Yes         /usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-xpm.so
0x00007fc554824c10  0x00007fc554826b68  Yes         /usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/im-ibus.so
0x00007fc55458d010  0x00007fc5545ac820  Yes         /lib64/libibus-1.0.so.5
0x00007fc55435e930  0x00007fc554375f98  Yes         /usr/lib64/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so
0x00007fc554147310  0x00007fc554150c9c  Yes         /lib64/libgvfscommon.so.0
0x00007fc553f13ec0  0x00007fc553f331fc  Yes         /lib64/libbluray.so.1
0x000000375ea00ee0  0x000000375ea01814  Yes         /lib64/libutil.so.1
0x00007fc553be2d70  0x00007fc553cc5744  Yes         /lib64/libxml2.so.2
0x00007fc5538fab10  0x00007fc553902514  Yes         /usr/lib64/sasl2/libdigestmd5.so
0x00007fc5536f4220  0x00007fc5536f6624  Yes         /usr/lib64/sasl2/libcrammd5.so
0x00007fc5534ec960  0x00007fc5534f0b44  Yes         /usr/lib64/sasl2/libgssapiv2.so
0x00007fc5532e6480  0x00007fc5532e9088  Yes         /usr/lib64/sasl2/libsasldb.so
0x00007fc552f16e50  0x00007fc553051348  Yes         /lib64/libdb-5.2.so
0x00007fc552ce5120  0x00007fc552ce6d44  Yes         /usr/lib64/sasl2/libanonymous.so
0x00007fc552ae0120  0x00007fc552ae1eb4  Yes         /usr/lib64/sasl2/liblogin.so
0x00007fc5528db130  0x00007fc5528dcef4  Yes         /usr/lib64/sasl2/libplain.so
0x00007fc551d7e7a0  0x00007fc551d7fc8c  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/attachwarner.so
0x00007fc551b78e80  0x00007fc551b7a2e8  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/att_remover.so
0x00007fc551957bc0  0x00007fc551967b10  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/notification_plugin.so
0x0000003754c02790  0x0000003754c04cbc  Yes         /lib64/libnotify.so.4
0x00007fc551747d40  0x00007fc551749200  Yes         /lib64/libcanberra-gtk.so.0
0x00000037668033c0  0x000000376680c31c  Yes         /lib64/libcanberra.so.0
0x00007fc55153f0b0  0x00007fc55154314c  Yes         /lib64/libvorbisfile.so.3
0x000000375b603810  0x000000375b61ad6c  Yes         /lib64/libvorbis.so.0
0x0000003758801a70  0x0000003758804138  Yes         /lib64/libogg.so.0
0x0000003766002880  0x000000376600c010  Yes         /lib64/libtdb.so.1
0x0000003761802400  0x00000037618065d4  Yes         /lib64/libltdl.so.7
0x00007fc55132df10  0x00007fc551334800  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/perl_plugin.so
0x00007fc550fe0a00  0x00007fc5510ef424  Yes         /usr/lib64/perl5/CORE/libperl.so
0x00007fc550da4790  0x00007fc550daba9c  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/pgpcore.so
0x00007fc550b99a20  0x00007fc550b9bbd8  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/pgpmime.so
0x00007fc550992730  0x00007fc550994b68  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/pgpinline.so
0x00007fc55078ad00  0x00007fc55078d148  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/smime.so
0x00007fc55057ed70  0x00007fc550584278  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/spamassassin.so
0x00007fc550375e40  0x00007fc55037739c  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/spamreport.so
0x00007fc55015abe0  0x00007fc55016152c  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/tnef_parse.so
0x00007fc54bdfca80  0x00007fc54bdfd8f4  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/fetchinfo_plugin.so
0x00007fc54bbf1b70  0x00007fc54bbf87b8  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/pdf_viewer.so
0x00007fc54b9c61c0  0x00007fc54b9dc338  Yes         /lib64/libpoppler-glib.so.8
0x0000003758c95220  0x0000003758d77300  Yes         /lib64/libpoppler.so.19
0x00007fc54b77d630  0x00007fc54b7a09fc  Yes         /lib64/liblcms.so.1
0x00007fc54b529e30  0x00007fc54b55c280  Yes         /lib64/libjpeg.so.62
0x0000003756804c90  0x000000375681a3e4  Yes         /lib64/libopenjpeg.so.3
0x00007fc54b2b0ba0  0x00007fc54b2feeb0  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/vcalendar.so
0x00007fc54a883f30  0x00007fc54a88a78c  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/archive.so
0x000000375780ed30  0x000000375786e730  Yes         /lib64/libarchive.so.12
0x0000003753c01f50  0x0000003753c05dc4  Yes         /lib64/libacl.so.1
0x00007fc54a67b3a0  0x00007fc54a67d48c  Yes         /lib64/libattr.so.1
0x00000037512030b0  0x0000003751219320  Yes         /lib64/liblzma.so.5
0x00007fc54a46b6f0  0x00007fc54a4772c0  Yes         /lib64/libbz2.so.1
0x00007fc549a632d0  0x00007fc549a6696c  Yes         /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/fancy.so
0x00007fc54277a930  0x00007fc543825a3c  Yes         /lib64/libwebkitgtk-1.0.so.0
0x00007fc549511820  0x00007fc5497a1fe4  Yes         /lib64/libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0.so.0
0x000000375a001b80  0x000000375a002ca4  Yes         /lib64/libsoup-gnome-2.4.so.1
0x00007fc5491fd1e0  0x00007fc549234554  Yes         /lib64/libsoup-2.4.so.1
0x0000003753802aa0  0x0000003753806310  Yes         /lib64/libgailutil.so.18
0x000000375ac07e90  0x000000375ac0f17c  Yes         /lib64/libgeoclue.so.0
0x00000037690030e0  0x000000376900839c  Yes         /lib64/libgstapp-0.10.so.0
0x000000375a409ea0  0x000000375a428824  Yes         /lib64/libgstaudio-0.10.so.0
0x00007fc548fdad40  0x00007fc548fe1454  Yes         /lib64/libgstfft-0.10.so.0
0x0000003768804f80  0x000000376880b044  Yes         /lib64/libgstinterfaces-0.10.so.0
0x0000003768c0a4d0  0x0000003768c1838c  Yes         /lib64/libgstpbutils-0.10.so.0
0x0000003769405480  0x0000003769414b40  Yes         /lib64/libgstvideo-0.10.so.0
0x0000003767c0af50  0x0000003767c3f880  Yes         /lib64/libgstbase-0.10.so.0
0x0000003766424c60  0x00000037664a168c  Yes         /lib64/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0
0x000000376840aa90  0x000000376842f1e4  Yes         /lib64/libxslt.so.1
0x000000376021ade0  0x0000003760261bb0  Yes         /lib64/libGL.so.1
0x000000376240a2e0  0x0000003762486860  Yes         /lib64/libsqlite3.so.0
0x00000037554680b0  0x000000375556cba4  Yes         /lib64/libicui18n.so.48
0x00000037550480b0  0x00000037550fd574  Yes         /lib64/libicuuc.so.48
0x00007fc54105f570  0x00007fc54105f670  Yes (*)     /lib64/libicudata.so.48
0x0000003758413170  0x000000375844f28c  Yes         /lib64/libXt.so.6
0x0000003752c07960  0x0000003752c193b4  Yes         /lib64/libgnome-keyring.so.0
0x000000376800bed0  0x00000037680585a8  Yes         /lib64/liborc-0.4.so.0
0x000000375fe0e8c0  0x000000375fe22058  Yes         /lib64/libglapi.so.0
0x0000003760609f70  0x00000037606101b8  Yes         /lib64/libxcb-glx.so.0
0x000000375ca00f60  0x000000375ca039ac  Yes         /lib64/libXxf86vm.so.1
0x000000375d203190  0x000000375d207fc4  Yes         /lib64/libdrm.so.2
0x00007fc5485d6c00  0x00007fc5485d7830  Yes         /lib64/libnss_mdns4_minimal.so.2
0x00007fc5483d00d0  0x00007fc5483d38c4  Yes         /lib64/libnss_dns.so.2
0x00007fc5481cc540  0x00007fc5481cd1dc  Yes         /usr/lib64/gconv/CP1252.so
0x00007fc540e5c540  0x00007fc540e5cf94  Yes         /usr/lib64/gconv/ISO8859-2.so
0x00007fc540457de0  0x00007fc5404590f8  Yes         /usr/lib64/gio/modules/libgiognomeproxy.so
0x00007fc540250a30  0x00007fc540253a18  Yes         /usr/lib64/gio/modules/libdconfsettings.so
(*): Shared library is missing debugging information.
$1 = 0x0
$2 = 0x0
rax            0x116f6d0	18282192
rbx            0x3450414d49205d31	3769584688304250161
rcx            0x37442e496d	237367085421
rdx            0x989ad0	10001104
rsi            0x0	0
rdi            0x3450414d49205d31	3769584688304250161
rbp            0x0	0x0
rsp            0x7fffb843d190	0x7fffb843d190
r8             0x7fc55be3ea00	140485626948096
r9             0x632e6e657a2e7377	7146771040804172663
r10            0xffffffff	4294967295
r11            0x0	0
r12            0x1052e30	17116720
r13            0xcec350	13550416
r14            0x31bd770	52156272
r15            0x3863a80	59128448
rip            0x3746e3c6dd	0x3746e3c6dd <g_io_channel_unref+13>
eflags         0x10202	[ IF RF ]
cs             0x33	51
ss             0x2b	43
ds             0x0	0
es             0x0	0
fs             0x0	0
gs             0x0	0
Dump of assembler code for function g_io_channel_unref:
   0x0000003746e3c6d0 <+0>:	test   %rdi,%rdi
   0x0000003746e3c6d3 <+3>:	push   %rbx
   0x0000003746e3c6d4 <+4>:	mov    %rdi,%rbx
   0x0000003746e3c6d7 <+7>:	je     0x3746e3c788 <g_io_channel_unref+184>
=> 0x0000003746e3c6dd <+13>:	mov    (%rdi),%eax
   0x0000003746e3c6df <+15>:	lea    -0x1(%rax),%edx
   0x0000003746e3c6e2 <+18>:	mov    %eax,%ecx
   0x0000003746e3c6e4 <+20>:	lock cmpxchg %edx,(%rbx)
   0x0000003746e3c6e8 <+24>:	jne    0x3746e3c6df <g_io_channel_unref+15>
   0x0000003746e3c6ea <+26>:	cmp    $0x1,%ecx
   0x0000003746e3c6ed <+29>:	je     0x3746e3c6f8 <g_io_channel_unref+40>
   0x0000003746e3c6ef <+31>:	pop    %rbx
   0x0000003746e3c6f0 <+32>:	retq   
   0x0000003746e3c6f1 <+33>:	nopl   0x0(%rax)
   0x0000003746e3c6f8 <+40>:	testb  $0x4,0x5e(%rbx)
   0x0000003746e3c6fc <+44>:	jne    0x3746e3c7a3 <g_io_channel_unref+211>
   0x0000003746e3c702 <+50>:	mov    %rbx,%rdi
   0x0000003746e3c705 <+53>:	callq  0x3746e3c520 <g_io_channel_purge>
   0x0000003746e3c70a <+58>:	mov    0x10(%rbx),%rdi
   0x0000003746e3c70e <+62>:	callq  0x3746e4d500 <g_free>
   0x0000003746e3c713 <+67>:	mov    0x18(%rbx),%rdi
   0x0000003746e3c717 <+71>:	cmp    $0xffffffffffffffff,%rdi
   0x0000003746e3c71b <+75>:	je     0x3746e3c722 <g_io_channel_unref+82>
   0x0000003746e3c71d <+77>:	callq  0x3746e2b7a0 <g_iconv_close>
   0x0000003746e3c722 <+82>:	mov    0x20(%rbx),%rdi
   0x0000003746e3c726 <+86>:	cmp    $0xffffffffffffffff,%rdi
   0x0000003746e3c72a <+90>:	je     0x3746e3c731 <g_io_channel_unref+97>
   0x0000003746e3c72c <+92>:	callq  0x3746e2b7a0 <g_iconv_close>
   0x0000003746e3c731 <+97>:	mov    0x28(%rbx),%rdi
   0x0000003746e3c735 <+101>:	callq  0x3746e4d500 <g_free>
   0x0000003746e3c73a <+106>:	mov    0x40(%rbx),%rdi
   0x0000003746e3c73e <+110>:	test   %rdi,%rdi
   0x0000003746e3c741 <+113>:	je     0x3746e3c74d <g_io_channel_unref+125>
   0x0000003746e3c743 <+115>:	mov    $0x1,%esi
   0x0000003746e3c748 <+120>:	callq  0x3746e651f0 <g_string_free>
   0x0000003746e3c74d <+125>:	mov    0x50(%rbx),%rdi
   0x0000003746e3c751 <+129>:	test   %rdi,%rdi
   0x0000003746e3c754 <+132>:	je     0x3746e3c760 <g_io_channel_unref+144>
   0x0000003746e3c756 <+134>:	mov    $0x1,%esi
   0x0000003746e3c75b <+139>:	callq  0x3746e651f0 <g_string_free>
   0x0000003746e3c760 <+144>:	mov    0x48(%rbx),%rdi
   0x0000003746e3c764 <+148>:	test   %rdi,%rdi
   0x0000003746e3c767 <+151>:	je     0x3746e3c773 <g_io_channel_unref+163>
   0x0000003746e3c769 <+153>:	mov    $0x1,%esi
   0x0000003746e3c76e <+158>:	callq  0x3746e651f0 <g_string_free>
   0x0000003746e3c773 <+163>:	mov    0x8(%rbx),%rax
   0x0000003746e3c777 <+167>:	mov    %rbx,%rdi
   0x0000003746e3c77a <+170>:	pop    %rbx
   0x0000003746e3c77b <+171>:	mov    0x28(%rax),%rax
   0x0000003746e3c77f <+175>:	jmpq   *%rax
   0x0000003746e3c781 <+177>:	nopl   0x0(%rax)
   0x0000003746e3c788 <+184>:	pop    %rbx
   0x0000003746e3c789 <+185>:	lea    0x74f2a(%rip),%rdx        # 0x3746eb16ba
   0x0000003746e3c790 <+192>:	lea    0x75a69(%rip),%rsi        # 0x3746eb2200 <__PRETTY_FUNCTION__.5560>
   0x0000003746e3c797 <+199>:	lea    0x70250(%rip),%rdi        # 0x3746eac9ee
   0x0000003746e3c79e <+206>:	jmpq   0x3746e4eb30 <g_return_if_fail_warning>
   0x0000003746e3c7a3 <+211>:	xor    %edx,%edx
   0x0000003746e3c7a5 <+213>:	mov    $0x1,%esi
   0x0000003746e3c7aa <+218>:	mov    %rbx,%rdi
   0x0000003746e3c7ad <+221>:	callq  0x3746e3c3a0 <g_io_channel_shutdown>
   0x0000003746e3c7b2 <+226>:	jmpq   0x3746e3c70a <g_io_channel_unref+58>
End of assembler dump.

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[03:50:36] NNTP> DATE 
[03:50:36] NNTP< 111 20121208035036 
[03:50:39] IMAP4> 131420 NOOP 
[03:50:39] IMAP4< 131420 OK NOOP completed. 
[03:51:36] NNTP> DATE 
[03:51:36] NNTP< 111 20121208035136 
[03:51:39] IMAP4> 131421 NOOP 
[03:51:39] IMAP4< 131421 OK NOOP completed. 
[03:52:36] NNTP> DATE 
[03:52:36] NNTP< 400 reader01.nrc01.news.zen.net.uk: Session timeout. 
[03:52:36] NNTP> 131422 STATUS INBOX (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] NNTP< * STATUS "INBOX" (MESSAGES 783 UIDNEXT 34478 UIDVALIDITY 1140230601 UNSEEN 16) 
[03:52:36] NNTP< 131422 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] NNTP> 131423 SELECT INBOX 
[03:52:36] NNTP< [data - 484 bytes]
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[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131424 UID FETCH 1:* (UID) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
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[03:52:36] IMAP4< [data - 39 bytes]
[03:52:36] IMAP4- [fetching flags...]
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131425 UID FETCH 1:* (FLAGS UID) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
[03:52:36] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
[03:52:36] IMAP4< TCH (UID 26116 FLAGS (\Seen)) 
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[03:52:36] IMAP4< ID 28696 FLAGS (\Seen)) 
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[03:52:36] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
[03:52:36] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 173 bytes]
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131426 STATUS sent (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "sent" (MESSAGES 65 UIDNEXT 10601 UIDVALIDITY 1140230610 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131426 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131427 STATUS Drafts (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Drafts" (MESSAGES 30 UIDNEXT 24696 UIDVALIDITY 1140230799 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131427 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131428 STATUS Queue (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Queue" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 4784 UIDVALIDITY 1140230629 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131428 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131429 STATUS Trash (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Trash" (MESSAGES 1 UIDNEXT 20711 UIDVALIDITY 1177711388 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131429 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131430 STATUS "Abuse mail" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Abuse mail" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 2 UIDVALIDITY 1140230765 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131430 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131431 STATUS Airnav (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Airnav" (MESSAGES 2 UIDNEXT 3 UIDVALIDITY 1232484729 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131431 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131432 STATUS "Alastair Burt" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Alastair Burt" (MESSAGES 10 UIDNEXT 11 UIDVALIDITY 1140230765 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131432 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131433 STATUS "Bedford Repeater Group" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Bedford Repeater Group" (MESSAGES 32 UIDNEXT 34 UIDVALIDITY 1140230765 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131433 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131434 STATUS "Bloodhound SSC" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Bloodhound SSC" (MESSAGES 68 UIDNEXT 69 UIDVALIDITY 1247386253 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131434 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131435 STATUS BT (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "BT" (MESSAGES 37 UIDNEXT 39 UIDVALIDITY 1140230765 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131435 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131436 STATUS CAcert (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "CAcert" (MESSAGES 7 UIDNEXT 36 UIDVALIDITY 1194389266 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131436 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131437 STATUS Cards (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Cards" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 2 UIDVALIDITY 1145734270 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131437 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131438 STATUS "Cards.Barclaycard" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Cards.Barclaycard" (MESSAGES 287 UIDNEXT 291 UIDVALIDITY 1140230766 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131438 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131439 STATUS "Cards.Cahoot" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Cards.Cahoot" (MESSAGES 282 UIDNEXT 283 UIDVALIDITY 1140230766 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131439 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131440 STATUS "Cards.LTSB" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Cards.LTSB" (MESSAGES 15 UIDNEXT 16 UIDVALIDITY 1140230767 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131440 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131441 STATUS "Cards.Mint" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Cards.Mint" (MESSAGES 20 UIDNEXT 22 UIDVALIDITY 1140230767 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131441 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131442 STATUS "Cards.Virgin" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Cards.Virgin" (MESSAGES 29 UIDNEXT 30 UIDVALIDITY 1247386230 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131442 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131443 STATUS Charter88 (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Charter88" (MESSAGES 199 UIDNEXT 204 UIDVALIDITY 1140230767 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131443 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131444 STATUS CineMail (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "CineMail" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 241 UIDVALIDITY 1176364913 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131444 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131445 STATUS "Deleted Items" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Deleted Items" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 1 UIDVALIDITY 1247386251 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131445 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131446 STATUS Eclipse (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Eclipse" (MESSAGES 48 UIDNEXT 51 UIDVALIDITY 1140230768 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131446 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131447 STATUS "Eclipse.Invoices" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Eclipse.Invoices" (MESSAGES 52 UIDNEXT 54 UIDVALIDITY 1140230768 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131447 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131448 STATUS "Eclipse.Virusalerts" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Eclipse.Virusalerts" (MESSAGES 44 UIDNEXT 45 UIDVALIDITY 1140230768 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131448 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131449 STATUS E-commerce (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "E-commerce" (MESSAGES 872 UIDNEXT 882 UIDVALIDITY 1140230769 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131449 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131450 STATUS "E-commerce.Amazon" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "E-commerce.Amazon" (MESSAGES 32 UIDNEXT 33 UIDVALIDITY 1247386284 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131450 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131451 STATUS "E-commerce.Car Insurance" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "E-commerce.Car Insurance" (MESSAGES 21 UIDNEXT 25 UIDVALIDITY 1218139156 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131451 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131452 STATUS "E-commerce.Car Warranty" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "E-commerce.Car Warranty" (MESSAGES 4 UIDNEXT 5 UIDVALIDITY 1247386277 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131452 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131453 STATUS "E-commerce.Registration Codes" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "E-commerce.Registration Codes" (MESSAGES 61 UIDNEXT 70 UIDVALIDITY 1140230769 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131453 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131454 STATUS "E-commerce.Registration Codes.AVG" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "E-commerce.Registration Codes.AVG" (MESSAGES 8 UIDNEXT 9 UIDVALIDITY 1221422417 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131454 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131455 STATUS "E-commerce.Registration Codes.JackFlash" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "E-commerce.Registration Codes.JackFlash" (MESSAGES 6 UIDNEXT 7 UIDVALIDITY 1140230769 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131455 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131456 STATUS "E-commerce.Registration Codes.LauncherX" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "E-commerce.Registration Codes.LauncherX" (MESSAGES 6 UIDNEXT 7 UIDVALIDITY 1140230769 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131456 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131457 STATUS "E-commerce.Registration Codes.Psiloc" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "E-commerce.Registration Codes.Psiloc" (MESSAGES 4 UIDNEXT 5 UIDVALIDITY 1140230769 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131457 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131458 STATUS "E-commerce.Registration Codes.XRite" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "E-commerce.Registration Codes.XRite" (MESSAGES 2 UIDNEXT 3 UIDVALIDITY 1247386280 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131458 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131459 STATUS "E-commerce.VirtualNames" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "E-commerce.VirtualNames" (MESSAGES 52 UIDNEXT 54 UIDVALIDITY 1140230769 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131459 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131460 STATUS "El Reg" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "El Reg" (MESSAGES 20 UIDNEXT 449 UIDVALIDITY 1247386254 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131460 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131461 STATUS Enidi (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Enidi" (MESSAGES 68 UIDNEXT 69 UIDVALIDITY 1247386235 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131461 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131462 STATUS Entanet (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Entanet" (MESSAGES 25 UIDNEXT 27 UIDVALIDITY 1227521487 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131462 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131463 STATUS "Entanet.Invoices" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Entanet.Invoices" (MESSAGES 82 UIDNEXT 84 UIDVALIDITY 1227521508 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131463 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131464 STATUS "Entanet.NOC ML" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Entanet.NOC ML" (MESSAGES 688 UIDNEXT 690 UIDVALIDITY 1231864460 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131464 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131465 STATUS Fleabay (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Fleabay" (MESSAGES 517 UIDNEXT 530 UIDVALIDITY 1140230771 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131465 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131466 STATUS Flextel (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Flextel" (MESSAGES 13 UIDNEXT 14 UIDVALIDITY 1140230771 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131466 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131467 STATUS Friends (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Friends" (MESSAGES 1 UIDNEXT 2 UIDVALIDITY 1178266051 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131467 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131468 STATUS "Friends Reunited" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Friends Reunited" (MESSAGES 105 UIDNEXT 106 UIDVALIDITY 1140230771 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131468 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131469 STATUS Garmin (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Garmin" (MESSAGES 24 UIDNEXT 26 UIDVALIDITY 1140230772 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131469 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131470 STATUS "Garmin.Cartography" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Garmin.Cartography" (MESSAGES 5 UIDNEXT 6 UIDVALIDITY 1141036974 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131470 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131471 STATUS "Garmin.GPSV updates" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Garmin.GPSV updates" (MESSAGES 1 UIDNEXT 2 UIDVALIDITY 1140230772 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131471 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131472 STATUS "Garmin.Mapsource updates" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Garmin.Mapsource updates" (MESSAGES 12 UIDNEXT 16 UIDVALIDITY 1140230772 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131472 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131473 STATUS "Garmin.Nuvi updates" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Garmin.Nuvi updates" (MESSAGES 14 UIDNEXT 15 UIDVALIDITY 1186959684 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131473 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131474 STATUS "Garmin.SPi3 updates" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Garmin.SPi3 updates" (MESSAGES 6 UIDNEXT 7 UIDVALIDITY 1140230772 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131474 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131475 STATUS "Garmin.WebUpdater updates" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Garmin.WebUpdater updates" (MESSAGES 3 UIDNEXT 4 UIDVALIDITY 1140230772 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131475 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131476 STATUS Giffgaff (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Giffgaff" (MESSAGES 144 UIDNEXT 146 UIDVALIDITY 1247386267 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131476 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131477 STATUS "Giffgaff.Georgie" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Giffgaff.Georgie" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 1 UIDVALIDITY 1247386275 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131477 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131478 STATUS "Giffgaff.Liam" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Giffgaff.Liam" (MESSAGES 44 UIDNEXT 45 UIDVALIDITY 1247386269 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131478 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131479 STATUS "Giffgaff.Sandra" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Giffgaff.Sandra" (MESSAGES 41 UIDNEXT 42 UIDVALIDITY 1247386279 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131479 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131480 STATUS "Inbox archive" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Inbox archive" (MESSAGES 431 UIDNEXT 432 UIDVALIDITY 1247386258 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131480 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131481 STATUS Jobstuff (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Jobstuff" (MESSAGES 95 UIDNEXT 104 UIDVALIDITY 1140230773 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131481 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131482 STATUS "Jobstuff.Artimi" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Jobstuff.Artimi" (MESSAGES 7 UIDNEXT 8 UIDVALIDITY 1140626735 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131482 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131483 STATUS "Jobstuff.CSR" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Jobstuff.CSR" (MESSAGES 9 UIDNEXT 10 UIDVALIDITY 1199389633 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131483 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131484 STATUS "Jobstuff.Gigasat" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Jobstuff.Gigasat" (MESSAGES 2 UIDNEXT 3 UIDVALIDITY 1140230772 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131484 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131485 STATUS "Jobstuff.Vacancies" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Jobstuff.Vacancies" (MESSAGES 34 UIDNEXT 35 UIDVALIDITY 1140230773 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131485 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131486 STATUS "Junk E-mail" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Junk E-mail" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 1 UIDVALIDITY 1247386250 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131486 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131487 STATUS "Mailing Lists" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 2 UIDVALIDITY 1145734272 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131487 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131488 STATUS "Mailing Lists.AeroPlayer" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.AeroPlayer" (MESSAGES 642 UIDNEXT 647 UIDVALIDITY 1140230634 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131488 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131489 STATUS "Mailing Lists.AeroPlayer.Beta" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.AeroPlayer.Beta" (MESSAGES 230 UIDNEXT 231 UIDVALIDITY 1140230632 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131489 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131490 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Amarok" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Amarok" (MESSAGES 1761 UIDNEXT 1772 UIDVALIDITY 1247386229 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131490 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131491 STATUS "Mailing Lists.BBC" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.BBC" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 1 UIDVALIDITY 1203242689 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131491 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131492 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Buddipole" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Buddipole" (MESSAGES 745 UIDNEXT 746 UIDVALIDITY 1180365650 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131492 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131493 STATUS "Mailing Lists.ClamAV users" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.ClamAV users" (MESSAGES 362 UIDNEXT 17671 UIDVALIDITY 1140230642 UNSEEN 1) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131493 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131494 SELECT "Mailing Lists.ClamAV users" 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * OK [CLOSED] Previous mailbox closed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft unknown-0 NonJunk $Forwarded) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft unknown-0 NonJunk $Forwarded \*)] Flags permitted. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * 362 EXISTS 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * 0 RECENT 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * OK [UNSEEN 362] First unseen. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1140230642] UIDs valid 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * OK [UIDNEXT 17671] Predicted next UID 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * OK [HIGHESTMODSEQ 8106] Highest 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131494 OK [READ-WRITE] Select completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4- [fetching flags...]
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131495 UID FETCH 1:* (FLAGS UID) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
[03:52:36] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
[03:52:36] IMAP4< [data - 33 bytes]
[03:52:36] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
[03:52:36] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
[03:52:36] IMAP4< S (\Seen NonJunk)) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
[03:52:36] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
[03:52:36] IMAP4< [data - 37 bytes]
[03:52:36] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
[03:52:36] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 15 FLAGS (\Seen)) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
[03:52:36] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 68 FLAGS (\Seen)) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
[03:52:36] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 21 FLAGS (\Seen)) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
[03:52:36] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 910 bytes]
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131496 STATUS "Mailing Lists.ClamAV users.Announce" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.ClamAV users.Announce" (MESSAGES 99 UIDNEXT 100 UIDVALIDITY 1140230641 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131496 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131497 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Claws-Mail" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Claws-Mail" (MESSAGES 1849 UIDNEXT 22942 UIDVALIDITY 1140230739 UNSEEN 5) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131497 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131498 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Claws-Mail.Bug reports" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Claws-Mail.Bug reports" (MESSAGES 953 UIDNEXT 10822 UIDVALIDITY 1140230735 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131498 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131499 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Claws-Mail.Kept mail" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Claws-Mail.Kept mail" (MESSAGES 3 UIDNEXT 4 UIDVALIDITY 1140230739 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131499 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131500 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Codec2" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Codec2" (MESSAGES 1665 UIDNEXT 1667 UIDVALIDITY 1247386228 UNSEEN 2) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131500 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131501 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Cyber Rights" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Cyber Rights" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 1 UIDVALIDITY 1145734272 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131501 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131502 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Datamodes" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Datamodes" (MESSAGES 16 UIDNEXT 18 UIDVALIDITY 1247386273 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131502 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131503 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Digiguide" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Digiguide" (MESSAGES 1 UIDNEXT 2 UIDVALIDITY 1182727412 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131503 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131504 STATUS "Mailing Lists.digiKam" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.digiKam" (MESSAGES 702 UIDNEXT 704 UIDVALIDITY 1247386285 UNSEEN 281) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131504 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131505 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Digital Voice" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Digital Voice" (MESSAGES 1104 UIDNEXT 1124 UIDVALIDITY 1220393754 UNSEEN 8) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131505 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131506 STATUS "Mailing Lists.dnet announce" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.dnet announce" (MESSAGES 5 UIDNEXT 6 UIDVALIDITY 1140230651 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131506 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131507 STATUS "Mailing Lists.dnet RC5" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.dnet RC5" (MESSAGES 981 UIDNEXT 986 UIDVALIDITY 1140230651 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131507 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131508 STATUS "Mailing Lists.DNRC" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.DNRC" (MESSAGES 13 UIDNEXT 14 UIDVALIDITY 1140230653 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131508 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131509 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Dovecot" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Dovecot" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 14312 UIDVALIDITY 1140428420 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131509 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131510 STATUS "Mailing Lists.ex-activeRF" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.ex-activeRF" (MESSAGES 385 UIDNEXT 404 UIDVALIDITY 1140230629 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131510 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131511 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Exim announce" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Exim announce" (MESSAGES 79 UIDNEXT 80 UIDVALIDITY 1140230654 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131511 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131512 STATUS "Mailing Lists.ExSym" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.ExSym" (MESSAGES 137 UIDNEXT 221 UIDVALIDITY 1140230654 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131512 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131513 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Fedora" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Fedora" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 477 UIDVALIDITY 1145734273 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131513 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131514 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Fedora.Announce" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Fedora.Announce" (MESSAGES 940 UIDNEXT 2459 UIDVALIDITY 1140230655 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131514 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131515 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Fedora.Bugzilla" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Fedora.Bugzilla" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 2 UIDVALIDITY 1215707688 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131515 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131516 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Fedora.Hams" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Fedora.Hams" (MESSAGES 274 UIDNEXT 275 UIDVALIDITY 1203873750 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131516 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131517 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Fedora.Laptop" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Fedora.Laptop" (MESSAGES 801 UIDNEXT 832 UIDVALIDITY 1196275507 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131517 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131518 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Fedora.Packages" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Fedora.Packages" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 10511 UIDVALIDITY 1146592169 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131518 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131519 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Fedora.Packages.Fedora 17" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Fedora.Packages.Fedora 17" (MESSAGES 9740 UIDNEXT 9762 UIDVALIDITY 1247386276 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131519 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131520 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Fedora.Packages.Fedora 18" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Fedora.Packages.Fedora 18" (MESSAGES 4706 UIDNEXT 4709 UIDVALIDITY 1247386283 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131520 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131521 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Fedora.Users" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Fedora.Users" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 4846 UIDVALIDITY 1210409351 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131521 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131522 STATUS "Mailing Lists.FT-817" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.FT-817" (MESSAGES 2773 UIDNEXT 20850 UIDVALIDITY 1247386255 UNSEEN 2653) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131522 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131523 STATUS "Mailing Lists.FT-950" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.FT-950" (MESSAGES 4655 UIDNEXT 4689 UIDVALIDITY 1247386272 UNSEEN 2269) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131523 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131524 STATUS "Mailing Lists.GB3VH" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.GB3VH" (MESSAGES 115 UIDNEXT 118 UIDVALIDITY 1247386262 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131524 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131525 STATUS "Mailing Lists.HamLib" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.HamLib" (MESSAGES 2811 UIDNEXT 2816 UIDVALIDITY 1179059292 UNSEEN 3) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131525 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131526 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Hutchison 3G" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Hutchison 3G" (MESSAGES 262 UIDNEXT 270 UIDVALIDITY 1140230671 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131526 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131527 STATUS "Mailing Lists.IPW3945" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.IPW3945" (MESSAGES 3 UIDNEXT 5000 UIDVALIDITY 1206543130 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131527 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131528 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Laptop Mode" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Laptop Mode" (MESSAGES 587 UIDNEXT 589 UIDVALIDITY 1214147076 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131528 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131529 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Linuxham" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Linuxham" (MESSAGES 4552 UIDNEXT 4605 UIDVALIDITY 1247386270 UNSEEN 7) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131529 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131530 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Linux Wireless" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Linux Wireless" (MESSAGES 2766 UIDNEXT 2774 UIDVALIDITY 1207071017 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131530 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131531 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Miracle Whip" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Miracle Whip" (MESSAGES 409 UIDNEXT 414 UIDVALIDITY 1247386256 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131531 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131532 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Mobiles" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Mobiles" (MESSAGES 143 UIDNEXT 144 UIDVALIDITY 1140230672 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131532 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131533 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Mode S" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Mode S" (MESSAGES 1072 UIDNEXT 2074 UIDVALIDITY 1247386232 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131533 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131534 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Mode S.Logs" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Mode S.Logs" (MESSAGES 1017 UIDNEXT 1022 UIDVALIDITY 1247386233 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131534 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131535 STATUS "Mailing Lists.NetworkManager" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.NetworkManager" (MESSAGES 1649 UIDNEXT 19111 UIDVALIDITY 1140230673 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131535 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131536 STATUS "Mailing Lists.No2ID" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.No2ID" (MESSAGES 181 UIDNEXT 184 UIDVALIDITY 1140230680 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131536 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131537 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Ofcom updates" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Ofcom updates" (MESSAGES 678 UIDNEXT 680 UIDVALIDITY 1140230680 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131537 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131538 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Ofcom updates.GPS jamming trials" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Ofcom updates.GPS jamming trials" (MESSAGES 30 UIDNEXT 31 UIDVALIDITY 1201769785 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131538 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131539 STATUS "Mailing Lists.OliviaData" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.OliviaData" (MESSAGES 170 UIDNEXT 171 UIDVALIDITY 1247386271 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131539 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131540 STATUS "Mailing Lists.OpenRightsGroup" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.OpenRightsGroup" (MESSAGES 4 UIDNEXT 5 UIDVALIDITY 1247386288 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131540 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131541 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Orange" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Orange" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 4763 UIDVALIDITY 1140230681 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131541 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131542 STATUS "Mailing Lists.OTR-users" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.OTR-users" (MESSAGES 1279 UIDNEXT 1289 UIDVALIDITY 1162554756 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131542 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131543 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Palm" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Palm" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 1 UIDVALIDITY 1145734274 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131543 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131544 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Palm.JPilot" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Palm.JPilot" (MESSAGES 1313 UIDNEXT 1316 UIDVALIDITY 1140230697 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131544 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131545 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Palm.PalmGear" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Palm.PalmGear" (MESSAGES 2 UIDNEXT 3 UIDVALIDITY 1140230713 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131545 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131546 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Palm.Pilot-link" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Palm.Pilot-link" (MESSAGES 1633 UIDNEXT 1644 UIDVALIDITY 1140230707 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131546 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131547 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Palm.Pilot-link announce" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Palm.Pilot-link announce" (MESSAGES 4 UIDNEXT 5 UIDVALIDITY 1140230713 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131547 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131548 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Pan" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Pan" (MESSAGES 613 UIDNEXT 8382 UIDVALIDITY 1140230713 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131548 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131549 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Pan.Bugs" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Pan.Bugs" (MESSAGES 11 UIDNEXT 13 UIDVALIDITY 1150613895 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131549 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131550 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Pan.Pan announce" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Pan.Pan announce" (MESSAGES 66 UIDNEXT 68 UIDVALIDITY 1140230713 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131550 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131551 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Pidgin support" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Pidgin support" (MESSAGES 372 UIDNEXT 12066 UIDVALIDITY 1199144808 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131551 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131552 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Planeplotter" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Planeplotter" (MESSAGES 1 UIDNEXT 20161 UIDVALIDITY 1247386234 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131552 OK Status completed. 
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[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Pocket Tunes" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 4485 UIDVALIDITY 1140230716 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131553 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131554 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Pocket Tunes.Beta" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Pocket Tunes.Beta" (MESSAGES 11 UIDNEXT 12 UIDVALIDITY 1140230716 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131554 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131555 STATUS "Mailing Lists.pssh announce" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.pssh announce" (MESSAGES 20 UIDNEXT 21 UIDVALIDITY 1140230723 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131555 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131556 STATUS "Mailing Lists.RF Globalnet" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.RF Globalnet" (MESSAGES 12 UIDNEXT 13 UIDVALIDITY 1140230723 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131556 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131557 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Rush" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Rush" (MESSAGES 6 UIDNEXT 7 UIDVALIDITY 1247386264 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131557 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131558 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Slashdot" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Slashdot" (MESSAGES 9 UIDNEXT 10 UIDVALIDITY 1140230732 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131558 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131559 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Slug" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Slug" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 1 UIDVALIDITY 1232270110 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131559 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131560 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Slug.NSLU2 General" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Slug.NSLU2 General" (MESSAGES 566 UIDNEXT 567 UIDVALIDITY 1232275716 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131560 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131561 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Slug.NSLU2 Linux" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Slug.NSLU2 Linux" (MESSAGES 107 UIDNEXT 1658 UIDVALIDITY 1232275716 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131561 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131562 STATUS "Mailing Lists.SpamAssassin" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.SpamAssassin" (MESSAGES 1 UIDNEXT 2 UIDVALIDITY 1140230734 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131562 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131563 STATUS "Mailing Lists.SpamAssassin.Announce" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.SpamAssassin.Announce" (MESSAGES 29 UIDNEXT 30 UIDVALIDITY 1140230734 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131563 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131564 STATUS "Mailing Lists.SpamAssassin.SARE" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.SpamAssassin.SARE" (MESSAGES 2198 UIDNEXT 2223 UIDVALIDITY 1140230733 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131564 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131565 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Stand" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Stand" (MESSAGES 2 UIDNEXT 3 UIDVALIDITY 1140230734 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131565 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131566 STATUS "Mailing Lists.Statewatch" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.Statewatch" (MESSAGES 145 UIDNEXT 147 UIDVALIDITY 1194358320 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131566 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131567 STATUS "Mailing Lists.ThinkBroadband news" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.ThinkBroadband news" (MESSAGES 450 UIDNEXT 454 UIDVALIDITY 1140230631 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131567 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131568 STATUS "Mailing Lists.UKCrypto" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.UKCrypto" (MESSAGES 11920 UIDNEXT 11928 UIDVALIDITY 1140230753 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131568 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131569 STATUS "Mailing Lists.UKIDcards" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.UKIDcards" (MESSAGES 163 UIDNEXT 164 UIDVALIDITY 1140230763 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131569 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131570 STATUS "Mailing Lists.UKQRM" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.UKQRM" (MESSAGES 5122 UIDNEXT 9466 UIDVALIDITY 1217843270 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131570 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131571 STATUS "Mailing Lists.UKQRM.Reference" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.UKQRM.Reference" (MESSAGES 4 UIDNEXT 5 UIDVALIDITY 1229770818 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131571 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131572 STATUS "Mailing Lists.UKQRM.Tech" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.UKQRM.Tech" (MESSAGES 71 UIDNEXT 73 UIDVALIDITY 1220561617 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131572 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131573 STATUS "Mailing Lists.UKQRM.Temp" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.UKQRM.Temp" (MESSAGES 4294 UIDNEXT 4295 UIDVALIDITY 1235159113 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131573 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131574 STATUS "Mailing Lists.UV-3R" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.UV-3R" (MESSAGES 799 UIDNEXT 7680 UIDVALIDITY 1247386265 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131574 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131575 STATUS "Mailing Lists.VX3" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.VX3" (MESSAGES 459 UIDNEXT 523 UIDVALIDITY 1247386260 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131575 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131576 STATUS "Mailing Lists.WhiteRoseRadio" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Mailing Lists.WhiteRoseRadio" (MESSAGES 1233 UIDNEXT 1235 UIDVALIDITY 1247386268 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131576 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131577 STATUS NoChex (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "NoChex" (MESSAGES 5 UIDNEXT 6 UIDVALIDITY 1140230774 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131577 OK Status completed. 
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[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Nominet" (MESSAGES 2 UIDNEXT 3 UIDVALIDITY 1227134405 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131578 OK Status completed. 
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[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "O2" (MESSAGES 90 UIDNEXT 91 UIDVALIDITY 1201967207 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131579 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131580 STATUS OurProperty (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "OurProperty" (MESSAGES 122 UIDNEXT 129 UIDVALIDITY 1140230774 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131580 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131581 STATUS "OurProperty.Petrol Prices" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "OurProperty.Petrol Prices" (MESSAGES 42 UIDNEXT 885 UIDVALIDITY 1196706624 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131581 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131582 STATUS Paypal (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Paypal" (MESSAGES 267 UIDNEXT 270 UIDVALIDITY 1140230774 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131582 OK Status completed. 
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[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Pipeline" (MESSAGES 22 UIDNEXT 25 UIDVALIDITY 1140799435 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131583 OK Status completed. 
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[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "queue" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 4784 UIDVALIDITY 1140230629 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131584 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131585 STATUS Sent (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Sent" (MESSAGES 65 UIDNEXT 10601 UIDVALIDITY 1140230610 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131585 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131586 STATUS "Sent (archive)" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Sent (archive)" (MESSAGES 1256 UIDNEXT 10453 UIDVALIDITY 1140887387 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131586 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131587 STATUS "Sent (archive).2005" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Sent (archive).2005" (MESSAGES 703 UIDNEXT 3500 UIDVALIDITY 1247386237 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131587 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131588 STATUS "Sent (archive).2006" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Sent (archive).2006" (MESSAGES 912 UIDNEXT 917 UIDVALIDITY 1247386238 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131588 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131589 STATUS "Sent (archive).2007" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Sent (archive).2007" (MESSAGES 633 UIDNEXT 656 UIDVALIDITY 1247386239 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131589 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131590 STATUS "Sent (archive).2008" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Sent (archive).2008" (MESSAGES 1375 UIDNEXT 1384 UIDVALIDITY 1247386236 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131590 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131591 STATUS "Sent (archive).2009" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Sent (archive).2009" (MESSAGES 1093 UIDNEXT 1094 UIDVALIDITY 1247386259 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131591 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131592 STATUS "Sent (archive).2010" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Sent (archive).2010" (MESSAGES 2739 UIDNEXT 2740 UIDVALIDITY 1247386281 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131592 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131593 STATUS "Sent (archive).2011" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Sent (archive).2011" (MESSAGES 1709 UIDNEXT 1710 UIDVALIDITY 1247386282 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131593 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131594 STATUS "Sent Items" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Sent Items" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 1 UIDVALIDITY 1247386249 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131594 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131595 STATUS "Sent (news)" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Sent (news)" (MESSAGES 4626 UIDNEXT 4627 UIDVALIDITY 1154796631 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131595 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131596 STATUS Spam (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Spam" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 69 UIDVALIDITY 1140230798 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131596 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131597 STATUS "Spam.False negatives" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Spam.False negatives" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 125 UIDVALIDITY 1140230778 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131597 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131598 STATUS "Spam.False positives" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Spam.False positives" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 57 UIDVALIDITY 1140230779 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131598 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131599 STATUS "Spam.Ham to learn" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Spam.Ham to learn" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 4 UIDVALIDITY 1140230779 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131599 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131600 STATUS "Spam.Spam to learn" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Spam.Spam to learn" (MESSAGES 2439 UIDNEXT 10573 UIDVALIDITY 1140230779 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131600 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131601 STATUS "Stuff to keep" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "Stuff to keep" (MESSAGES 46 UIDNEXT 50 UIDVALIDITY 1140230776 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131601 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131602 STATUS SWCC (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "SWCC" (MESSAGES 44 UIDNEXT 45 UIDVALIDITY 1247386231 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131602 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131603 STATUS "System mail" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "System mail" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 2 UIDVALIDITY 1145734277 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131603 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131604 STATUS "System mail.DenyHost reports" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "System mail.DenyHost reports" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 1801 UIDVALIDITY 1140230799 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131604 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131605 STATUS "System mail.Disk space" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
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[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131605 OK Status completed. 
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[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "System mail.Logwatch" (MESSAGES 62 UIDNEXT 2470 UIDVALIDITY 1140230799 UNSEEN 1) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131606 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131607 STATUS "System mail.Mailer daemon" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "System mail.Mailer daemon" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 1 UIDVALIDITY 1145734277 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131607 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131608 STATUS "System mail.Remote mailer daemon" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "System mail.Remote mailer daemon" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 2 UIDVALIDITY 1140230799 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131608 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131609 STATUS "System mail.RKHunter" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "System mail.RKHunter" (MESSAGES 62 UIDNEXT 63 UIDVALIDITY 1247386287 UNSEEN 1) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131609 OK Status completed. 
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[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "System mail.SA-update" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 1358 UIDVALIDITY 1140230799 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131610 OK Status completed. 
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[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "TalkTalk" (MESSAGES 43 UIDNEXT 44 UIDVALIDITY 1217537597 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131611 OK Status completed. 
[03:52:36] IMAP4> 131612 STATUS TheyWorkForYou (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
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[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131612 OK Status completed. 
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[03:52:36] IMAP4< * STATUS "trash" (MESSAGES 1 UIDNEXT 20711 UIDVALIDITY 1177711388 UNSEEN 0) 
[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131613 OK Status completed. 
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[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131614 OK Status completed. 
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[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131617 OK Status completed. 
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[03:52:36] IMAP4< 131623 OK Status completed. 
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[03:52:37] NNTP< . 
[03:52:37] NNTP> XHDR to -1 
[03:52:37] NNTP< 221 to data follows 
[03:52:37] NNTP< . 
[03:52:37] NNTP> XHDR cc -1 
[03:52:37] NNTP< 221 cc data follows 
[03:52:37] NNTP< . 
[03:52:37] NNTP> GROUP zen.support 
[03:52:37] NNTP< 211 1 11117 11117 zen.support 
[03:52:37] ** warning: NNTP connection to news.zen.co.uk:119 has been disconnected.

Let me know if this is the right stuff again.

-- 

Brian Morrison

                "I am not young enough to know everything"
                                                          Oscar Wilde


From insomniactoo at localnet.com  Mon Dec 10 18:26:16 2012
From: insomniactoo at localnet.com (insomniactoo at localnet.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:26:16 -0600
Subject: [Users] Claws doing bad things with random(?) e-mails...
Message-ID: <20121210112616.35c37bb8@oogah.boogah.org>


  Hi gang,

  Running claws 3.9.0 and been using claws for almost 2 years now IIRR.

  I'm on 6 different mailing lists and I always set up my claws mail to
  automagically 'move' each one to a folder I've made just for that list mails, i.e.
  Claws users folder gets anything 'claws', Pan folder gets all Pan, etc.

  Normally on a stock setup everything will fall into the 'inbox', and this is doing
  as it should on all mails *not* being filtered in my setup.

  Lately though, here in the past couple of weeks, e-mails have been getting moved
  to the trash folder for no reason and without me knowing about it until I happen
  to look at that folder and see something in it that *I* didn't put there.

  It seems to be very random about when it happens and the types of e-mails.
  Sometimes it will be a list e-mail, sometimes it will be an e-mail from a friend
  or whatever.

  I've got  only one thing in my filters saying to put anything into the trash folder,
  nor do I use the spam thing in Claws (I've attached a small snapshot of the
  filters window with all the filters I have).

  This is starting to get a little aggravating as I'm beginning to worry about
  missing e-mails on accident that may be important. I'm trying to make it a habit
  of looking in the trash folder, but this shouldn't have to be done.

  Anyway, if anyone has any suggestions I'm more than willing to give them a try to
  get this fixed.


  John



-- 
FTG FTI FTP

Registered Linux user #214117 at http://linuxcounter.net
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From colin at colino.net  Tue Dec 11 09:35:40 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:35:40 +0100
Subject: [Users] How to Extended quicksearch messages with attachments?
In-Reply-To: <20121210192950.4d26eb2a@mydesk>
References: <20121210192950.4d26eb2a@mydesk>
Message-ID: <20121211093540.1ee4f9fb@colin>

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:29:50 -0500, Steve Litt
<slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

Hi,

> How do I extended quicksearch messages that have attachments? I
> clicked the Information button, but it contained nothing about
> attachments.

There's 'ha' (shortcut for 'has_attachment') :)

-- 
Colin


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 11 09:37:37 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:37:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] Claws doing bad things with random(?) e-mails...
In-Reply-To: <20121210112616.35c37bb8@oogah.boogah.org>
References: <20121210112616.35c37bb8@oogah.boogah.org>
Message-ID: <20121211083737.638158a3@thewildbeast>

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:26:16 -0600
<insomniactoo at localnet.com> wrote: 

>   Lately though, here in the past couple of weeks, e-mails have
> been getting moved to the trash folder for no reason and without me
> knowing about it until I happen to look at that folder and see
> something in it that *I* didn't put there.
> 
>   It seems to be very random about when it happens and the types of
> e-mails. Sometimes it will be a list e-mail, sometimes it will be
> an e-mail from a friend or whatever.

Claws won't do that without your instruction.

If this is an IMAP account then perhaps that is some server-side
filtering happening. If not IMAP, then check the filtering log in
Claws.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From colin at colino.net  Tue Dec 11 09:53:35 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:53:35 +0100
Subject: [Users] Further crash in cvs44
In-Reply-To: <20121208080056.2c7f2da7@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20121206195546.67b218b5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121207103756.386da81a@colin>
	<20121207121606.00003e0a@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121208080056.2c7f2da7@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20121211095335.6fde9679@colin>

On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 08:00:56 +0000, Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk>
wrote:

> Same thing has happened again, I think:

Yep, still the same, but I still don't figure out what it is. Would it
be possible for you to start Claws Mail in Valgrind during the nights?

It will hopefully crash and enlighten me about what I'm doing wrong...

use 
$ valgrind --tool=memcheck --log-file=claws-valgrind.log claws-mail

Thanks!
-- 
Colin


From colin at colino.net  Tue Dec 11 10:02:25 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:02:25 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws doing bad things with random(?) e-mails...
In-Reply-To: <20121211083737.638158a3@thewildbeast>
References: <20121210112616.35c37bb8@oogah.boogah.org>
	<20121211083737.638158a3@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20121211100225.0dacb9bd@colin>

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:37:37 +0000, Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>
wrote:

> >   It seems to be very random about when it happens and the types of
> > e-mails. Sometimes it will be a list e-mail, sometimes it will be
> > an e-mail from a friend or whatever.  
> 
> Claws won't do that without your instruction.
> 
> If this is an IMAP account then perhaps that is some server-side
> filtering happening. If not IMAP, then check the filtering log in
> Claws.

Or anti-spam plugin?

Also, your 'subject regexpcase "[Bug*]" move "#mh/mailbox/Trash"' rule
is wrong and is very probably the culprit. you probably mean:

subject regexpcase "\[Bug .*\]" move "#mh/mailbox/Trash"

Square brackets are normally used in regexp to match character class,
like '[a-z]' means any letter between a and z. 
[Bug*] would match anything containing Bug (or even Bgu, guB, gu,
but etc) - test with bash and variations of

echo '[Bug 1234] tralala'|grep --color '[Bug*]'
echo '[but 1234] tralala'|grep --color '[Bug*]'

compare with
echo '[Bug 1234] tralaa'|grep --color '\[Bug .*\]'

HTH,
-- 
Colin


From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Tue Dec 11 10:52:01 2012
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 04:52:01 -0500
Subject: [Users] How to Extended quicksearch messages with attachments?
 <SOLVED>
In-Reply-To: <20121210173551.01b52bce@from-theboss.911networks.com>
References: <20121210192950.4d26eb2a@mydesk>
	<20121210173551.01b52bce@from-theboss.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20121211045201.3029e330@mydesk>

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:35:51 -0800, sylpheed at 911networks.com said:
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:29:50 -0500
> Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:
> 
> >How do I extended quicksearch messages that have attachments? I
> >clicked the Information button, but it contained nothing about
> >attachments.
> 
> Extended | Edit | Flags | Has Attachment  | is set or is not set

Confirmed!

Thanks Sylpheed.

I used your advice to boil it down to stuff I can just type in, rather
than using the search constructor. So, I wanted every email with
attachments from anyone with "steve" in the from field, I successfully
used this:

has_attachment & from matchcase "steve"

The search phrase constructor displays lots of unexpected behavior,
including an error dialog box that will not close until the box you made
the "mistake" on is closed. I'll write that up in a separate email.

Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt                *  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
                          *  http://twitter.com/stevelitt
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance



From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Tue Dec 11 13:00:02 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:00:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] Further crash in cvs44
In-Reply-To: <20121211095335.6fde9679@colin>
References: <20121206195546.67b218b5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121207103756.386da81a@colin>
	<20121207121606.00003e0a@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121208080056.2c7f2da7@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121211095335.6fde9679@colin>
Message-ID: <20121211120002.0000018e@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:53:35 +0100
Colin Leroy wrote:

> On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 08:00:56 +0000, Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk>
> wrote:
> 
> > Same thing has happened again, I think:
> 
> Yep, still the same, but I still don't figure out what it is. Would it
> be possible for you to start Claws Mail in Valgrind during the nights?
> 
> It will hopefully crash and enlighten me about what I'm doing wrong...
> 
> use 
> $ valgrind --tool=memcheck --log-file=claws-valgrind.log claws-mail
> 
> Thanks!

Yes, I'll do that some time soon.

One thing I have noticed. If I rebuild the Claws packages and freshen
the installed rpms, Claws often crashes. It never used to do that
before the last half dozen cvs versions. Relevant? I'm not sure.

Will post logs when I get something helpful. Since your change in cvs44,
Claws does run for longer without crashing, it might be the freshened
rpms caused the crash rather than the nntp date related thing.

-- 

Brian Morrison


From colin at colino.net  Tue Dec 11 14:01:01 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:01:01 +0100
Subject: [Users] Further crash in cvs44
In-Reply-To: <20121211120002.0000018e@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20121206195546.67b218b5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121207103756.386da81a@colin>
	<20121207121606.00003e0a@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121208080056.2c7f2da7@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121211095335.6fde9679@colin>
	<20121211120002.0000018e@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20121211140101.51c1ab81@colin>

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:00:02 +0000, Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk>
wrote:

> One thing I have noticed. If I rebuild the Claws packages and freshen
> the installed rpms, Claws often crashes. It never used to do that
> before the last half dozen cvs versions. Relevant? I'm not sure.

Are you talking about cvs-based packages ? Or release ? 

> Will post logs when I get something helpful. Since your change in
> cvs44, Claws does run for longer without crashing, it might be the
> freshened rpms caused the crash rather than the nntp date related
> thing.

That would be surprising, though... 

-- 
Colin


From neels at hofmeyr.de  Tue Dec 11 14:01:46 2012
From: neels at hofmeyr.de (Neels Hofmeyr)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:01:46 +0100
Subject: [Users] address-keeper plugin and address completion
In-Reply-To: <20121210143320.GH10614@trasgu>
References: <20121209042804.023a1fad@dub>
	<20121210143320.GH10614@trasgu>
Message-ID: <20121211140146.5dc02a50@dub>

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:33:20 +0100
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:
>   Not having side effects so far, so both committed.
> 
>   Many thanks for spotting this! :-)

Great stuff! :)
 
Thanks,
~Neels
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Tue Dec 11 14:15:13 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:15:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] Further crash in cvs44
In-Reply-To: <20121211140101.51c1ab81@colin>
References: <20121206195546.67b218b5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121207103756.386da81a@colin>
	<20121207121606.00003e0a@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121208080056.2c7f2da7@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121211095335.6fde9679@colin>
	<20121211120002.0000018e@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121211140101.51c1ab81@colin>
Message-ID: <20121211131513.00000665@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:01:01 +0100
Colin Leroy wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:00:02 +0000, Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk>
> wrote:
> 
> > One thing I have noticed. If I rebuild the Claws packages and
> > freshen the installed rpms, Claws often crashes. It never used to
> > do that before the last half dozen cvs versions. Relevant? I'm not
> > sure.
> 
> Are you talking about cvs-based packages ? Or release ?

I mean cvs-based, built locally by me using slightly tweaked spec
files based on the Fedora released version.

I should have added, "...if not restarted" to the "Claws often crashes"
sentence above. Could it be some sort of paging problem where Claws
code is discarded by the kernel memory manager because it thinks it can
re-read it from disk from the binary or .so files but it reads in the
new version where the code entry points are in the wrong place?
 
> 
> > Will post logs when I get something helpful. Since your change in
> > cvs44, Claws does run for longer without crashing, it might be the
> > freshened rpms caused the crash rather than the nntp date related
> > thing.
> 
> That would be surprising, though... 
> 

With the above clarification?

-- 

Brian Morrison


From colin at colino.net  Tue Dec 11 14:36:36 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:36:36 +0100
Subject: [Users] Further crash in cvs44
In-Reply-To: <20121211131513.00000665@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20121206195546.67b218b5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121207103756.386da81a@colin>
	<20121207121606.00003e0a@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121208080056.2c7f2da7@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121211095335.6fde9679@colin>
	<20121211120002.0000018e@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121211140101.51c1ab81@colin>
	<20121211131513.00000665@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20121211143636.6c2bd839@colin>

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:15:13 +0000, Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk>
wrote:

> I should have added, "...if not restarted" to the "Claws often
> crashes" sentence above. Could it be some sort of paging problem
> where Claws code is discarded by the kernel memory manager because it
> thinks it can re-read it from disk from the binary or .so files but
> it reads in the new version where the code entry points are in the
> wrong place? 

That would be a rather huge kernel bug... I hope that's not that.

-- 
Colin


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Tue Dec 11 14:51:35 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:51:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] Further crash in cvs44
In-Reply-To: <20121211143636.6c2bd839@colin>
References: <20121206195546.67b218b5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121207103756.386da81a@colin>
	<20121207121606.00003e0a@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121208080056.2c7f2da7@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121211095335.6fde9679@colin>
	<20121211120002.0000018e@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121211140101.51c1ab81@colin>
	<20121211131513.00000665@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121211143636.6c2bd839@colin>
Message-ID: <20121211135135.000002b6@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:36:36 +0100
Colin Leroy wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:15:13 +0000, Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk>
> wrote:
> 
> > I should have added, "...if not restarted" to the "Claws often
> > crashes" sentence above. Could it be some sort of paging problem
> > where Claws code is discarded by the kernel memory manager because
> > it thinks it can re-read it from disk from the binary or .so files
> > but it reads in the new version where the code entry points are in
> > the wrong place? 
> 
> That would be a rather huge kernel bug... I hope that's not that.
> 

Maybe. Fedora has very current kernels (I'm currently running 3.6.9, and
Greg K-H released 3.6.10 overnight so I shall expect another update
soon) and Linus and co are busy messing about with the VM code, they've
just reverted a big change that wasn't ready for prime time in 3.7, so
it's not impossible that this is related to recent kernels.

I'll keep you informed.

-- 

Brian Morrison


From jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com  Tue Dec 11 15:02:11 2012
From: jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com (Jeremy Schneider)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:02:11 -0500
Subject: [Users] notifications and unity
In-Reply-To: <20121208190318.24753c62@wodan>
References: <20121206211732.59a3deb8@jeremy-nb> <20121208190318.24753c62@wodan>
Message-ID: <20121211090211.4b80c6d8@jeremy-nb>

On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 19:03:18 +0100
Holger Berndt <berndth at gmx.de> wrote:

> There's been a patch proposal about Unity integration recently [1]. If
> you can work with patches, feedback would be interesting.

This looks interesting - I'll let you know if I have a chance to test
it. Might take a few weeks before I have time.  

I'm brand new with claws; don't know how "stable/unstable" your CVS
repo typically is. Could I test the latest notification plugin with my
"stable" 3.9.0 claws install or should I switch over to the CVS version
of everything?


> That might be an additional problem, because the notification plugin
> notifies of new mail, and Gmail IMAP is known to not support that
> concept.

That's a shame. Any additional info on this? Old thread or something?
Has anyone done any work to better support gmail/imap?

-J


From ptesarik at suse.cz  Tue Dec 11 15:42:31 2012
From: ptesarik at suse.cz (Petr Tesarik)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:42:31 +0100
Subject: [Users] Maildir support
Message-ID: <20121211154231.67ae0956@azariah.suse.cz>

Hi everyone,

I found out this note on the Maildir plugin:

http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Plugins#I_love_maildir_format._Is_there_a_useful_replacement_in_Claws_Mail.2C_which_is_better_than_the_maildir_plugin_.3F

It says: "it [the Maildir plugin] lacks some important features". Does
anybody have a list? IOW what would have to be implemented if I decided
to start maintaining the code?

TIA,
Petr


From ricardo at mones.org  Tue Dec 11 16:11:27 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:11:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] Maildir support
In-Reply-To: <20121211154231.67ae0956@azariah.suse.cz>
References: <20121211154231.67ae0956@azariah.suse.cz>
Message-ID: <20121211151127.GM10614@trasgu>

  Hi Petr,

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 03:42:31PM +0100, Petr Tesarik wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I found out this note on the Maildir plugin:
> 
> http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Plugins#I_love_maildir_format._Is_there_a_useful_replacement_in_Claws_Mail.2C_which_is_better_than_the_maildir_plugin_.3F
> 
> It says: "it [the Maildir plugin] lacks some important features". Does
> anybody have a list? IOW what would have to be implemented if I decided
> to start maintaining the code?

  AFAIK nobody of the team uses it (yeah, it's unmaintained for a reason ;)
so there's no list. IIRC that comment was based on some bugs which appeared
long ago. In case you want to maintain it (and you're welcome to do so!)
finding what's missing would be your first task :)

  regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but 
  that's not why we do it.                            Richard Feynman

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From colin at colino.net  Tue Dec 11 16:20:29 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:20:29 +0100
Subject: [Users] Maildir support
In-Reply-To: <20121211151127.GM10614@trasgu>
References: <20121211154231.67ae0956@azariah.suse.cz>
	<20121211151127.GM10614@trasgu>
Message-ID: <20121211162029.7f5bf6e8@colin>

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:11:27 +0100, Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
wrote:

> > It says: "it [the Maildir plugin] lacks some important features".
> > Does anybody have a list? IOW what would have to be implemented if
> > I decided to start maintaining the code?  
> 
>   AFAIK nobody of the team uses it (yeah, it's unmaintained for a
> reason ;) so there's no list. IIRC that comment was based on some
> bugs which appeared long ago. In case you want to maintain it (and
> you're welcome to do so!) finding what's missing would be your first
> task :)

It's missing all the fast functions working on lists of mails instead
of single mails (add_msgs, copy_msgs, remove_msgs, remove_all_msg). The
core then has to call single-message functions N times;  It also lacks
scan_required which means folders get rescanned a lot.

It's also missing testing :)
-- 
Colin


From m.rovis at inet.hr  Tue Dec 11 18:34:21 2012
From: m.rovis at inet.hr (Miroslav Rovis)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:34:21 +0100
Subject: [Users] Message shows strange redirection (reveals censorship)
In-Reply-To: <20121210122500.2ad49424@colin>
References: <20121210115155.18f8d97e@at8-g250-b.exdeowg>
	<20121210122500.2ad49424@colin>
Message-ID: <20121211183421.70bee780@at8-g250-b.exdeowg>

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:25:00 +0100
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> > Line 3:
> > Received: (qmail 215653 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2012 13:51:50
> > +0100
> 
> To cut to the point, Received lines are to be read from the last to
> the first (each server add its line at the start).
> 
> That mail's headers seem perfectly normal to me. Your
> correspondent at pugna.hr sent his email to his SMTP server of choice,
> carbon.studio4web.com using his station (barisispc), which forwarded
> the email to the next server for your domain, 8-226.dsl.iskon.hr. That
> server forwarded it to in4.mail.iskon.hr, which finally delivered it
> to popbox.iskon.hr for you to retrieve it.
> 
> 78.46.99.110 is just the IP of your correspondant's mail server.

Thank you for answering that tech detail. Actually it is my
correspondent's mail server's IP, isn't it?

But, how come he sent his e-mail to:

Line 57 and on from the attachment in the first mail of this thread,
the attachment that I gave the name:
Src_MAIL_121209_Thompson_permit_Vukovar_REPLY_ZdravkoBarišić.txt
(pls. note esp. line 60), so Lines 57-61 follow:

-----Original Message-----
From: Pugna d.o.o. [mailto:pugna at pugna.hr]=20
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 1:48 PM
To: 'croatian-news at googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: Dopu=B9tenje za uporabu Markovih pjesama uz nekoliko minuta
Vukovara

Again, pls. notice that pugna at pugna.hr (hey, what's that "mailto:"
there? strange!) sent the mail to croatian-news at googlegroups.com
(that's line 60, the one key point)

And how come the very first three lines of the source mail tell
the Return-Path, but not the true sender of the *forwarded mail*, almost
none of the details on the true sender of the *forwarded mail*, but
still just barely enough to know that it was Google Mail, the true
sender of the *forwarded mail*?

Here are the first 3 lines of the source mail in question.

Return-Path: <pugna at pugna.hr>
Delivered-To: mirovis+m.rovis at inet.hr
Received: (qmail 215653 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2012 13:51:50 +0100

And pls. what is that "215653" number? I bet not even the Claws
developers can tell us, because it's something btwn Iskon and Google
Mail, not for the public! That's my bet! It's not time in UTC, is it?
But OK, correct me if I'm wrong!

The Return-Path line (Line 1) does not tell us the sender of that
forwarded mail. Was there something scrapped from the original Google
*forwarded mail* containing the original mail to Google (because, again,
the original mail was to Google, not Iskon!)?

I don't get the second line either, I mean, being in the second line it
says nothing of the mail itself. Again, does the mail itself, the
source of it, changes when it is delivered to you? I'm talking about
the second line. Does the mail upon delivery get a line that basically
says: "I have just now been delivered to you?" and writes that line into
itself?

The third line, to me, is another key to understanding of the fact
that the mail was forwarded to me, and from Google Mail, sure, together
with the line 60 discussed above, and along with the painful context I
can now try to avoid details of, but which is also indicative to the
truth of the event.

But let's stick to the purely technical little truth in that context,
and that is that I had previously set, in the original query sent to
the singer's manager triple ways, in one of those ways, the way from my
Claws mailbox, with my Claws program, that I had in my Claws-sent
e-mail set the "Reply-To" line to be exactly:

Reply-To: croatian-news at googlegroups.com

and having neither me any Google Mail in my Claws mailbox, nor
Iskon having any Google Mail on their servers for sending or
receiving e-mails, if we take it as truth of the event that the line 60
of the source mail is authentic in the sense that it shows what
address my correspondent when replying to my initial e-mail send his
reply to, than he indeed sent his reply to:

croatian-news at googlegroups.com

I bet none of you will oppose me in my belief that normal it is when an
e-mail is send to a mailing list set up for the public to
exercize free speech on issues non-criminal and morally reputable and
decent, such as Google Groups Mailing lists (now turning into forums and
Google+ prozealitizers)...  I bet none of you will oppose that it is
normal for an e-mail sent to a mailing list-group-forum to be in the
least, if the sender (in this case the singer's manager) is a reputable
person, to be in the least stowed in among the pending messages for that
mailing list (in this case Croatian-News Google Group mailing list,
turning into forum), for moderators (users like me who moderate the
group, there are a small number of us), to approve of it and post it to
the group, or to disapprove of it and delete it.

Most public e-forums and mailing lists not only admit new messages in
among the pending to be reviewed by users-moderators or the like, but
pronto send subscription invitations, don't they?

But the singer's manager's mail wasn't admitted in among the pending
messages for one of us moderators of the group to manage. No, and it
can be clearly seen that it wasn't admitted so in the Screencast video
that I made. That's why I made it, that's why I keep screencasting,
because I am prohibited from the society of my own by those who hate
free speech for whichever motives of theirs. 

I'm really sorry for things not being honky dory for you to not ever
having to read reasoning like mine. Really sorry!

Iskon has no Google Mail program for sending and receiving mails either
(neither me, nor they), so if not the recipient of the mail sent to 
croatian-news at googlegroups.com
then maybe some monkeys from space (those that write Bibles in the
experiments of atheists proving there is no God, I gave a link
somewhere what I meant (here again: System attacked, Konqueror went on
window-popping
spree! http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-905472.html#7189918 ).
Well of course not. It could only have been those that normally should
have admitted the singer's manager's reply in the pending messages, and
it sure it was them, the Google Croatia who, had they been normal,
would promptly send an subscription invitation to pugna at pugna.hr
Are they normal? Or full of some hatred maybe? Them, not me?
But still, how do I see things positively when this happens over and
over to me, and Croatian-News Google group is just one of the venues?

Now, if you look up, it's different context, pls. bear in mind any of
you who want your mail as if under, what looks to me (I respect your
positions, but mine is this one), as if under holy glass window
protecting you from intrusion of the pain that is sometimes outside (on
which I can try and comply to your wishes as much as I can without
forbidding the truth though)... But if you look up my provider's
interface, for the sake of finding out the technical details of this
source mail... Wait...

This is my provider's web interface (start viewing at minute 9., got
me?):

http://youtu.be/XsTYEEbwY3g WARINING: start at minute 0:9:00

Now, that's my provider's interface. Any Google mail there for them to
send and receive as gmail?

IMO, my provider didn't send to me all the headers that it received
from Google Mail, I guess you will all agree that what I got is far too
scanty on the *forwarded mail*'s sender's headers...

Anyone could show more of true knowledge and a little tollerance for
the heavily censored and truelly politically persecuted (I have
friends, true friend who are in exile, else, they would probably have
already died in prison), even without supporting my cause, but just
without yelling at me, because I told you in the very first lines of
the first message pf this thread that the technical details would be
found and how you could pronto find them, so if you went and read how
bitter lives can be for dissenters, and don't feel for me but instead
want to silence me, that's a glass window sindrome...

But, I was saying, if anyone could show more of true knowledge on what
else the Google lines stand for if not for what I expound in this
message, and in the previous messages, and in the videos, go on, to the
light of day your arguments!

Again, what else if not how I explained above mean these two lines:

Line 3:
Received: (qmail 215653 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2012 13:51:50 +0100

Line 60:
To: 'croatian-news at googlegroups.com'

And, to me, because I am sure I am right nearly completely (maybe small
details, not the fundamental fact that it went through Google and that
neither me nor Iskon have any Google Mail to use for either sending or
receiving of mail, (maybe small details) could be found where my
reasoning is flawed, but only people or greater understanding than mine
could point those out; I am not aware of them at this time)...

And, to me, is this a normal forwarded mail? I don't think so. I believe
a lot was scrubbed from the mail received from Google Mail and it was
scrubbed by Iskon, the provider (who, those who went and saw the
video and their web interface, can't even adapt to modern times, but
keep their interface in iso-8850-2, God!), scrubbed the forwarded mail
just short of falsifying it, being aware that falsifying it would have
been a criminal offence.

How about that, Iskon, once you come to read these lines? Dear gay
joyous Iskon that I can't no more think positively of, because you
delete so much of my mail, and mail that people send to me, week after
week, for years now!?

Thank you, Claws people and users, for your patience.
I will be thankful for anyone's especially more knowledgeable people
than us so far, and if there was anyone really bigger guy from among
you who reply to my mail (I mean programmer, developer), I can go and
read their mails over again...

The problem is, and trying to comply as much as possible, (for the love
of God, or if you don't believe in God, for the sake of the Truth, the
Peace, the Good, the Order, the whatever Positive you believe in) the
reason I submitted the source mail to Claws mailing list, was because
the "Message" showed "strange redirection" and if this does not "reveal"
"censorship", and if the context (the painful context that some of you
hate) is duly  explained, but if you have been given opportunity to
skip to the technical details right from the start of the topic,
because I clearly stated so in the top mail of this topic, and the
purely technical context can be pronto skipped onto without reading the
non-tech... I leave this thought unfinished, use plain logic to arrive
at conclusion...

But wait, there's more.

"Message shows strange redirection (reveals censorship)" is the title
of this thread.

And that's the issue. You can't read a book without putting it on the
table or keeping it in your hands. The table, or your hands is
censorship here, the book is the technical stuff...

But I wanted to apologize for being late to reply. I am a rather
physically sick oldish man, I am not very agile and have had to be
spending a lot of time in bed for weeks lately.

Thank you!

-- 
Miroslav Rovis
m.rovis at inet.hr
miro.rovis at gmail.com
01 660 2633
091 266 0202
#===      was sentenced to jail, 2 ys on parole, for political views,
essentially
http://www.croatiafidelis.hr/Miroslav_Rovis_politicki_progon/ # but no
English there at this time http://www.exDeo.com
http://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/croatian-news
http://www.youtube.com/user/miroR2
http://vimeo.com/user9621785
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Tue Dec 11 18:43:54 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:43:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] Message shows strange redirection (reveals censorship)
In-Reply-To: <20121211183421.70bee780@at8-g250-b.exdeowg>
References: <20121210115155.18f8d97e@at8-g250-b.exdeowg>
	<20121210122500.2ad49424@colin>
	<20121211183421.70bee780@at8-g250-b.exdeowg>
Message-ID: <20121211174354.00004c76@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:34:21 +0100
Miroslav Rovis wrote:

> But wait, there's more.
> 
> "Message shows strange redirection (reveals censorship)" is the title
> of this thread.

Please could this be taken off-list.

-- 

Brian Morrison


From boudiccas at talktalk.net  Tue Dec 11 19:16:42 2012
From: boudiccas at talktalk.net (Sharon Kimble)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:16:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] Spell Checking in Claws Mail
Message-ID: <20121211181642.3793ee4d@london.dlink.com>


I have a major problem with spell checking within Claws Mail.
I've asked in the freenode #claws channel on IRC but
have been unable to get it working properly. I have spell checking
configured properly in Configuration/Preferences/Compose/Spell
Checking, with the coloured box set to 'red'. But, I don’t see any
colours at all in claws mail, its purely monochromatic. I have all
boxes ticked in the spell checking configuration page, with 'en-ca'
being my alternative dictionary, but I still don’t have any visible way
of seeing misspelled words. 

Well, spell checking manually of each "next misspelt word" is working
in 'en-GB', just I don’t see any coloured, misspelt words, nor squiggly
lines underneath misspellings, I'm using  Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+
2.24.10; i486-pc-linux-gnu).

Can anyone advise me please as to how to get it visibly working?

Thanks
Sharon.
-- 
A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk/taste/index.html
efever = http://www.efever.blogspot.com/
efever = http://sharon04.livejournal.com/
Debian Wheezy, LXDE 2, LibreOffice 3.5.4.2
Registered Linux user 334501 


From egbert.bouwman at gmail.com  Tue Dec 11 23:32:18 2012
From: egbert.bouwman at gmail.com (Egbert Bouwman)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 23:32:18 +0100
Subject: [Users] Action in Windows doesn't react
Message-ID: <CABbS4XoOozsQ857-hrCcguwOXwHPdsgJ93J6wnYY+A6tcq4Efw@mail.gmail.com>

Colin Leroy wrote:
>  any action using pipes under
>  Windows is silently unsupported. Sadly the fork/pipe/dup/etc soup under
>  the hood of these actions is highly OS-dependant. (And portability will
>  benefit using a rewrite with g_spawn_*, but I didn't look at that yet,
>  that seems rather painful :)

That is a disappointment, and I hope it is only temporary.
It means that for the time being we have to go on with the Pegasus mailer,
because of their shadow-subject option.
And that is something which can be done much more elegantly and user friendly
in claws-mail-linux with a user action.

The positive side of my experiments is that I now use Claws-mail wherever I can.
I am a convert.

Thanks for your windows explorations.
egbert
-- 
Egbert Bouwman  [GMail]


From irgunii at gmail.com  Wed Dec 12 00:33:16 2012
From: irgunii at gmail.com (irgunii at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:33:16 -0600
Subject: [Users] Claws doing bad things with random(?) e-mails...
In-Reply-To: <20121211100225.0dacb9bd@colin>
References: <20121210112616.35c37bb8@oogah.boogah.org>
	<20121211083737.638158a3@thewildbeast>
	<20121211100225.0dacb9bd@colin>
Message-ID: <20121211173316.6fa77392@oogah.boogah.org>

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:02:25 +0100
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:37:37 +0000, Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>
> wrote:
> 
> > >   It seems to be very random about when it happens and the types of
> > > e-mails. Sometimes it will be a list e-mail, sometimes it will be
> > > an e-mail from a friend or whatever.  
> > 
> > Claws won't do that without your instruction.
> > 
> > If this is an IMAP account then perhaps that is some server-side
> > filtering happening. If not IMAP, then check the filtering log in
> > Claws.
> 
> Or anti-spam plugin?
> 
> Also, your 'subject regexpcase "[Bug*]" move "#mh/mailbox/Trash"' rule
> is wrong and is very probably the culprit. you probably mean:
> 
> subject regexpcase "\[Bug .*\]" move "#mh/mailbox/Trash"
> 
> Square brackets are normally used in regexp to match character class,
> like '[a-z]' means any letter between a and z. 
> [Bug*] would match anything containing Bug (or even Bgu, guB, gu,
> but etc) - test with bash and variations of
> 
> echo '[Bug 1234] tralala'|grep --color '[Bug*]'
> echo '[but 1234] tralala'|grep --color '[Bug*]'
> 
> compare with
> echo '[Bug 1234] tralaa'|grep --color '\[Bug .*\]'
> 
> HTH,

(apologies if the 'sender' of this reply is different...I'm in the process of
dropping my dial-up ISP after15 years and finally having the means to get satellite
speed!  Wish it was DSL, but I'll take what I can get so long as it's better
than dial-up! lol)

  Not an IMAP thing, so not that and as I said, it suddenly started to happen.

  As for the rule that Colin brings up...that fits the timeline so I'll try to see
  if your suggestion fixes it. I'm sure it will, because I was playing hell trying
  to figure out how to make all these 'bug' reports coming into the list not show up
  in my 'inbox', heh.

  Thank you both. I'll let you know what happens in a few days.

  John


-- 
FTG FTI FTP

Registered Linux user #214117 at http://linuxcounter.net


From berndth at gmx.de  Wed Dec 12 00:36:11 2012
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 00:36:11 +0100
Subject: [Users] how to reply and run an action
In-Reply-To: <20121210230557.3538ef63@obelix.rh>
References: <20121207193711.14c3ad98@obelix.rh> <20121208182121.72d5a5f0@wodan>
	<20121210085907.4279d63f@obelix.rh> <20121210221413.6afcde53@wodan>
	<20121210230557.3538ef63@obelix.rh>
Message-ID: <20121212003611.0ed244e0@wodan>

On Mo, 10.12.2012 23:05, Flavio Leitner wrote:

>That's a big help. Thank you so much. Unfortunately the code didn't
>work as the reply content's window isn't modified by 'tr'.
>Any idea?

Not really - it works fine here. If you want to dig into that, you
could either fiddle around with those commands interactively in the
embedded Python console, or do some print debugging (print
statements in Python scripts go to Claws Mail's stdout, so if you start
Claws Mail from a terminal, you should see the output).

Holger


From berndth at gmx.de  Wed Dec 12 01:13:41 2012
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 01:13:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] notifications and unity
In-Reply-To: <20121211090211.4b80c6d8@jeremy-nb>
References: <20121206211732.59a3deb8@jeremy-nb> <20121208190318.24753c62@wodan>
	<20121211090211.4b80c6d8@jeremy-nb>
Message-ID: <20121212011341.2085fd8d@wodan>

On Di, 11.12.2012 09:02, Jeremy Schneider wrote:

>I'm brand new with claws; don't know how "stable/unstable" your CVS
>repo typically is. Could I test the latest notification plugin with my
>"stable" 3.9.0 claws install or should I switch over to the CVS version
>of everything?

Honestly, the notification plugin moves so slowly, it shouldn't make much
difference. As for the repo in general, people try to keep CVS usable
(which usually works out well, but of course there are exceptions).

>> That might be an additional problem, because the notification plugin
>> notifies of new mail, and Gmail IMAP is known to not support that
>> concept.
>
>That's a shame. Any additional info on this? Old thread or something?
>Has anyone done any work to better support gmail/imap?

See http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2451

Holger


From colin at colino.net  Wed Dec 12 09:23:59 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 09:23:59 +0100
Subject: [Users] Message shows strange redirection (reveals censorship)
In-Reply-To: <20121211174354.00004c76@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20121210115155.18f8d97e@at8-g250-b.exdeowg>
	<20121210122500.2ad49424@colin>
	<20121211183421.70bee780@at8-g250-b.exdeowg>
	<20121211174354.00004c76@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20121212092359.38cb9e3a@colin>

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:43:54 +0000, Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk>
wrote:

> > But wait, there's more.
> > 
> > "Message shows strange redirection (reveals censorship)" is the
> > title of this thread.  
> 
> Please could this be taken off-list.

No thanks :), I'm not interested in continuing that topic at all, be
it on-list or off-list.

-- 
Colin


From lainecliff at gmail.com  Wed Dec 12 13:34:03 2012
From: lainecliff at gmail.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:34:03 +0000
Subject: [Users] Display email in HTML email from selected senders
Message-ID: <20121212123403.5f80f468@mepis1>

Is it possible for all mail from a certain address to be displayed as
HTML by default, but retaining text only for all other mail?

A newsletter I subscribe to has changed the way it sends email and
unfortunately the text version appears completely blank, and I can
only read it by clicking on the text/html button on the RH side of the
message pane. Which is a pain :)

Cliff


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 12 13:44:13 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:44:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] Display email in HTML email from selected senders
In-Reply-To: <20121212123403.5f80f468@mepis1>
References: <20121212123403.5f80f468@mepis1>
Message-ID: <20121212124413.14614606@thewildbeast>

On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:34:03 +0000
Cliff Laine <lainecliff at gmail.com> wrote: 

> Is it possible for all mail from a certain address to be displayed
> as HTML by default, but retaining text only for all other mail?
> 
> A newsletter I subscribe to has changed the way it sends email and
> unfortunately the text version appears completely blank, and I can
> only read it by clicking on the text/html button on the RH side of
> the message pane. Which is a pain :)

If you filter those message to a particular folder, (and upgrade to
version 3.9.0), you can use the Folder Property to automatically
select the html part for messages in that folder.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From colin at colino.net  Wed Dec 12 19:23:39 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:23:39 +0100
Subject: [Users] Action in Windows doesn't react
In-Reply-To: <CABbS4XoOozsQ857-hrCcguwOXwHPdsgJ93J6wnYY+A6tcq4Efw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABbS4XoOozsQ857-hrCcguwOXwHPdsgJ93J6wnYY+A6tcq4Efw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20121212192339.5f06da1b@mike>

On 11 December 2012 at 23h32, Egbert Bouwman wrote:

Hi, 

> That is a disappointment, and I hope it is only temporary.

Yes. I've looked at it today and current CVS allows running -some-
actions in Windows. Forking and al. works. stdin/stdout and the like
don't, though.

I'll look into that and will provide a new Windows build soon-ish.

> The positive side of my experiments is that I now use Claws-mail
> wherever I can. I am a convert.

:-)
 
> Thanks for your windows explorations.

You're welcome :)
-- 
Colin
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From Nev at allstamps.com.au  Thu Dec 13 02:39:32 2012
From: Nev at allstamps.com.au (Nev)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:39:32 +0900
Subject: [Users] SIGNATURES
Message-ID: <20121213103932.00001378@unknown>

HI

I am a convert from Thunderbird and just getting my head around things.

Can somebody help me with Signatures. In Thunderbird I have 6
signatures I could add for different emails. For the love of me I can
see how to set up in Claws Mail.

Many thanks
Nev


From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Thu Dec 13 04:24:56 2012
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 22:24:56 -0500
Subject: [Users] SIGNATURES
In-Reply-To: <20121213103932.00001378@unknown>
References: <20121213103932.00001378@unknown>
Message-ID: <20121212222456.00005e10@unknown>

Templates is how I do it:

http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Templates

There are configuration-wide templates under Configuration -> Compose
-> Templates. Each account has its own set of templates that can
override the configuration-wide templates. And each folder has a set of
templates that can override both configuration and account templates.

-- 
Rich P.


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Thu Dec 13 20:03:31 2012
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:03:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] Further crash in cvs44
In-Reply-To: <20121211131513.00000665@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20121206195546.67b218b5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121207103756.386da81a@colin>
	<20121207121606.00003e0a@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121208080056.2c7f2da7@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121211095335.6fde9679@colin>
	<20121211120002.0000018e@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121211140101.51c1ab81@colin>
	<20121211131513.00000665@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20121213190331.000074d0@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:15:13 +0000
Brian Morrison wrote:

> I should have added, "...if not restarted" to the "Claws often
> crashes" sentence above. Could it be some sort of paging problem
> where Claws code is discarded by the kernel memory manager because it
> thinks it can re-read it from disk from the binary or .so files but
> it reads in the new version where the code entry points are in the
> wrong place?

cvs45 ran perfectly for a couple of days, no crashes.

Today I downloaded cvs47 and rebuilt, then updated the rpms but didn't
restart Claws. Within a couple of hours, Claws crashed. Last thing in
the log file was an NNTP DATE command and server response. These seem
to be sent once a minute, is this the keep alive?

-- 

Brian Morrison


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 13 20:08:29 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:08:29 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2837] New: [PATCH] Detach automatic email checking
 from 'get all'
Message-ID: <bug-2837-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2837

           Summary: [PATCH] Detach automatic email checking from 'get all'
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: CVS
          Platform: All
        OS/Version: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: kubakici at wp.pl


Created an attachment (id=1208)
 --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1208)
Add new account option -  automatically check for mail

Currently there are two groups of accounts: those fetched by 'Get all' action
and others. Only accounts from first group are fetched by automatic checking.
IMHO it would be useful to make decision if account is fetched by manual
clicking on 'Get all' separate from decision on whether email is downloaded
automatically. Two use cases I have for that are: 
1) some servers are extremely slow and faulty and I don't want to burden
claws-mail with talking with them too often - just check them once a day when I
click 'Get all';
2) some accounts are used for handling mailing lists with _very_ high traffic
and I don't want to see notification about new mail every 2 minutes, but do
want to see the email once I click 'Get all';

Hope this makes sense! ;-)

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From mir at miras.org  Thu Dec 13 20:09:41 2012
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:09:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] Further crash in cvs44
In-Reply-To: <20121213190331.000074d0@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20121206195546.67b218b5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121207103756.386da81a@colin>
	<20121207121606.00003e0a@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121208080056.2c7f2da7@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121211095335.6fde9679@colin>
	<20121211120002.0000018e@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121211140101.51c1ab81@colin>
	<20121211131513.00000665@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121213190331.000074d0@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20121213200941.6f1e5bfe@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:03:31 +0000
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

> 
> Today I downloaded cvs47 and rebuilt, then updated the rpms but didn't
> restart Claws. Within a couple of hours, Claws crashed. Last thing in
> the log file was an NNTP DATE command and server response. These seem
> to be sent once a minute, is this the keep alive?
> 
These two are unrelated. DATE is the keep-alive command send to the
server so what you have seen is a DATE command sent via the NNTP
protocol. Perhaps your NNTP (usenet) server does not like frequent DATE
calls?

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From colin at colino.net  Thu Dec 13 21:38:49 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:38:49 +0100
Subject: [Users] Further crash in cvs44
In-Reply-To: <20121213190331.000074d0@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20121206195546.67b218b5@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121207103756.386da81a@colin>
	<20121207121606.00003e0a@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121208080056.2c7f2da7@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121211095335.6fde9679@colin>
	<20121211120002.0000018e@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121211140101.51c1ab81@colin>
	<20121211131513.00000665@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20121213190331.000074d0@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
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Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> a écrit :

>On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:15:13 +0000
>Brian Morrison wrote:
>
>> I should have added, "...if not restarted" to the "Claws often
>> crashes" sentence above. Could it be some sort of paging problem
>> where Claws code is discarded by the kernel memory manager because it
>> thinks it can re-read it from disk from the binary or .so files but
>> it reads in the new version where the code entry points are in the
>> wrong place?
>
>cvs45 ran perfectly for a couple of days, no crashes.
>
>Today I downloaded cvs47 and rebuilt, then updated the rpms but didn't
>restart Claws. Within a couple of hours, Claws crashed. Last thing in
>the log file was an NNTP DATE command and server response. These seem
>to be sent once a minute, is this the keep alive?

Yes, that's keepalive. That's still always crashing at disconnect so i think something's wrong.
-- 
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From w1pns at comcast.net  Thu Dec 13 22:27:04 2012
From: w1pns at comcast.net (Peter Spotts)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:27:04 -0500
Subject: [Users] Running into CC problems
In-Reply-To: <20121210222911.40126eaf@desktop-1.home>
References: <20121210182439.65afdd3b@w1pns>
	<20121210222911.40126eaf@desktop-1.home>
Message-ID: <20121213162704.3c7ed323@w1pns>

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:29:11 -0800
Thomas Taylor <linxt at comcast.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:24:39 -0500
> Peter Spotts <w1pns at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hi folks,
> > 
> > I've run into a bit of trouble addressing emails and didn't reaily
> > find anything on this during what may have been a too-hasty look in
> > the archives.
> > 
> > When I enter an address in the initial address line, a new address
> > line pops up underneath the initial one. So far so good(?). 
> > 
> > But, when I finish the address in the first line and drop to the
> > second line and select either another To: or a CC:, when I begin
> > typing the address, the cursor pops back up to the first level,
> > which gets cleaned of its original address, and that's where my
> > typing appears. 
> > 
> > And, if you act now... 
> > 
> > When the cursor jumps back up to the first address line, the To:
> > field takes on the attribute of the field from which the cursor
> > jumped -- if I used To: in the first address line and CC: in the
> > second, when the cursor jumps back up, the first line automatically
> > chages to CC:. 
> > 
> > This has happened on 3.8 as well as now on 3.9. I'm running Ubuntu
> > 12.10 (and previously 12.04).
> > 
> > Any hints as to where I should look to fix this. Or is it bug-report
> > time?
> > 
> > With best regards,
> > 
> > Pete
> > 
> 
> This also happens under openSUSE 12.2.  I'm told by recipients that it
> does work (sends to multiple people) but it puts every address on the
> first address line.
> 
> Tom
> 

Thanks, Tom. It's hard to see that here, because when the cursor pops
back up to the first line, anything typed into it vanishes. Curious...

With best regards,

Pete

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From w1pns at comcast.net  Thu Dec 13 22:28:59 2012
From: w1pns at comcast.net (Peter Spotts)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:28:59 -0500
Subject: [Users] Running into CC problems
In-Reply-To: <20121211075139.61d676f4@penny>
References: <20121210182439.65afdd3b@w1pns>
	<20121210222911.40126eaf@desktop-1.home>
	<20121211075139.61d676f4@penny>
Message-ID: <20121213162859.7973b352@w1pns>

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:51:39 +0100
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:29:11 -0800
> Thomas Taylor <linxt at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > This also happens under openSUSE 12.2.  I'm told by recipients that
> > it does work (sends to multiple people) but it puts every address
> > on the first address line.
> 
> Are you sure the recipient list doesn't just scroll up when adding
> new people? Look for a little scrollbar on the right.
> 
> Regards,

Thanks for the reply Andrej. The sound you hear is of me slapping my
forehead. Scrolling up reveals the initial address. Doh!

With best regards,

Pete

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Get on the air and make a contact!"
       -- Lyle Amundson, K0LFV


From pf at pfortin.com  Fri Dec 14 02:13:32 2012
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:13:32 -0500
Subject: [Users] Running into CC problems
In-Reply-To: <20121213162859.7973b352@w1pns>
References: <20121210182439.65afdd3b@w1pns>
	<20121210222911.40126eaf@desktop-1.home>
	<20121211075139.61d676f4@penny> <20121213162859.7973b352@w1pns>
Message-ID: <20121213201332.6f24dd2e@pfortin.com>

On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:28:59 -0500 Peter Spotts wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:51:39 +0100
>Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:29:11 -0800
>> Thomas Taylor <linxt at comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> > This also happens under openSUSE 12.2.  I'm told by recipients that
>> > it does work (sends to multiple people) but it puts every address
>> > on the first address line.
>> 
>> Are you sure the recipient list doesn't just scroll up when adding
>> new people? Look for a little scrollbar on the right.
>> 
>> Regards,
>
>Thanks for the reply Andrej. The sound you hear is of me slapping my
>forehead. Scrolling up reveals the initial address. Doh!

:^)  Many of us have been there too...  I "solved" this issue by dragging
the separator down a tad so that the recipient list shows 2.5 addresses
-- that way, it's more obvious scrolling is present when turned on by
starting to enter a second address.

HTH,
Pierre

>With best regards,
>
>Pete
>


From edwardp at linuxmail.org  Fri Dec 14 22:51:17 2012
From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:51:17 -0500
Subject: [Users] E-Mail Printing under FreeBSD
In-Reply-To: <20121206182710.1003a1f4@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
References: <20121206182710.1003a1f4@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20121214165117.27a548b1@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>

On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 18:27:10 -0500
<Edward> wrote:

> I have been using FreeBSD on-and-off for the past couple of weeks (by
> swapping hard drives, Linux on one, FreeBSD (as PC-BSD 9.0) on the
> other).
> 
> When I printed an e-mail from the FreeBSD port of Claws, the first
> line at the top of the page was chopped off.
> 
> I'm curious to know if this is a FreeBSD problem or perhaps a problem
> with the Claws port.  The printer is an HP DeskJet 932C, HPLIP (also
> installed) provides full support for this model.
> 
> I was able to (somewhat) solve a printing issue with the SeaMonkey
> (SM) suite, printing web pages by adjusting one of the right margin
> settings in the configuration file, however the URL which should
> normally print at the upper right of the page with SM and Firefox,
> does not print in with the FreeBSD port of SM, so this could be an
> altogether different issue.  
> 
> Thanks in advance..

I am pleased to report that the Claws Mail printing issue in FreeBSD,
was not related to Claws Mail.  :)

Anything that was printed (I had installed the PC-BSD distribiution.),
would be chopped off at the top, e-mails, web pages, etc.

Not to mention that overall, it ran very slow on this particular
hardware.  It's now running Debian Linux again.

- Edward


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec 15 08:44:01 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:44:01 +0000
Subject: [Users] E-Mail Printing under FreeBSD
In-Reply-To: <20121214165117.27a548b1@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
References: <20121206182710.1003a1f4@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121214165117.27a548b1@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20121215074401.63817884@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:51:17 -0500
<edwardp at linuxmail.org> wrote: 

> I am pleased to report that the Claws Mail printing issue in
> FreeBSD, was not related to Claws Mail.  :)

But we knew that!!

with regards

Paul


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but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec 15 09:22:55 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 09:22:55 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2835] add_address() in addr_compl.c should allow a
	NULL name
In-Reply-To: <bug-2835-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2835-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121215082255.E32048540B@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2835


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec 15 09:31:59 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 09:31:59 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2834] Filtering to a imap folder sometime fails to run
In-Reply-To: <bug-2834-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2834-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121215083159.BCBE88540B@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2834


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--- Comment #1 from Paul  2012-12-15 09:31:58 ---
Please run the filtering log and inspect its output. Your problem is probably
due to your (account-specific and non-account-specific) filtering rules.

The filtering is strong, so I'm going to close this as 'WORKSFORME' but if your
filtering log leads you to believe that there is a real bug here then please
re-open this report with more data.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec 15 09:34:17 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 09:34:17 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2833] RSSyl generates too much IO
In-Reply-To: <bug-2833-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2833-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121215083417.44C658540B@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2833


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec 15 09:52:35 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 09:52:35 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2832] mail to from adress-book splitt names
In-Reply-To: <bug-2832-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2832-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121215085235.8FE6C8540B@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2832





--- Comment #1 from users  2012-12-15 09:52:34 ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest CVS and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://www.claws-mail.org/tracker/

2012-12-15 [paul]    3.9.0cvs48

    * src/addrselect.c
        fix bug 2832, 'mail to from adress-book splitt names'

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec 15 10:04:35 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 10:04:35 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2826] replace deprecated gnutls function
In-Reply-To: <bug-2826-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2826-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2826


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec 15 10:05:02 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 10:05:02 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2832] mail to from adress-book splitt names
In-Reply-To: <bug-2832-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2832-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121215090502.ABE0C8540B@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2832


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec 15 10:08:19 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 10:08:19 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2800] Display not clearing - Fedora 14
In-Reply-To: <bug-2800-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2800-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2800


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--- Comment #2 from Paul  2012-12-15 10:08:19 ---
re-open if you can reproduce this with the latest release

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec 15 10:14:13 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 10:14:13 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2772] How to check imap folders on new mail ?
In-Reply-To: <bug-2772-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2772-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121215091413.999FB8540B@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2772


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--- Comment #1 from Paul  2012-12-15 10:14:13 ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 1408 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec 15 10:14:13 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 10:14:13 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1408] IDLE-Support with libEtPan (since 0.52)
In-Reply-To: <bug-1408-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1408-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1408


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--- Comment #16 from Paul  2012-12-15 10:14:13 ---
*** Bug 2772 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec 15 14:44:48 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:44:48 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2833] RSSyl generates too much IO
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Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|RESOLVED                    |REOPENED
         Resolution|INVALID                     |
         AssignedTo|users at lists.claws-mail.org  |andrej at kacian.sk
           Severity|normal                      |enhancement




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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec 15 14:51:29 2012
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Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:51:29 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2833] RSSyl generates too much IO
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From jerry at seibercom.net  Sat Dec 15 16:05:01 2012
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 10:05:01 -0500
Subject: [Users] E-Mail Printing under FreeBSD
In-Reply-To: <20121214165117.27a548b1@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
References: <20121206182710.1003a1f4@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <20121215100501.4563fadd@scorpio>

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:51:17 -0500
edwardp at linuxmail.org articulated:

> I am pleased to report that the Claws Mail printing issue in FreeBSD,
> was not related to Claws Mail.  :)
> 
> Anything that was printed (I had installed the PC-BSD distribiution.),
> would be chopped off at the top, e-mails, web pages, etc.
> 
> Not to mention that overall, it ran very slow on this particular
> hardware.  It's now running Debian Linux again.

So, what was the problem?

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From edwardp at linuxmail.org  Sat Dec 15 16:24:50 2012
From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 10:24:50 -0500
Subject: [Users] E-Mail Printing under FreeBSD
In-Reply-To: <20121215100501.4563fadd@scorpio>
References: <20121206182710.1003a1f4@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121214165117.27a548b1@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121215100501.4563fadd@scorpio>
Message-ID: <20121215102450.5e51b380@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 10:05:01 -0500
Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:51:17 -0500
> edwardp at linuxmail.org articulated:
> 
> > I am pleased to report that the Claws Mail printing issue in
> > FreeBSD, was not related to Claws Mail.  :)
> > 
> > Anything that was printed (I had installed the PC-BSD
> > distribiution.), would be chopped off at the top, e-mails, web
> > pages, etc.
> > 
> > Not to mention that overall, it ran very slow on this particular
> > hardware.  It's now running Debian Linux again.
> 
> So, what was the problem?

No clue.  I tried various margin settings, nothing would correct it.
The HPLIP Test Page printed perfectly, nothing else would...  <shrug>




From ww.torsten at gmail.com  Sat Dec 15 20:24:59 2012
From: ww.torsten at gmail.com (TorstenWw)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:24:59 +0100
Subject: [Users] vCalendar: feature request
Message-ID: <20121215202459.6ed92542@Eee>

Hi there,

regrading vCalendar (plugin):
* currently it is not possible to see the name of the month in the month view
* and it is not possible to set a recurring event (birthdays and stuff like that)
* furthermore it would be nice if there is a method to automatically import all
  birthdays from the address book to the calendar

Torsten


From jerry at seibercom.net  Sat Dec 15 21:40:34 2012
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 15:40:34 -0500
Subject: [Users] E-Mail Printing under FreeBSD
In-Reply-To: <20121215102450.5e51b380@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
References: <20121206182710.1003a1f4@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121214165117.27a548b1@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121215100501.4563fadd@scorpio>
	<20121215102450.5e51b380@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20121215154034.446aefac@scorpio>

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 10:24:50 -0500
edwardp at linuxmail.org articulated:

> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 10:05:01 -0500
> Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:51:17 -0500
> > edwardp at linuxmail.org articulated:
> > 
> > > I am pleased to report that the Claws Mail printing issue in
> > > FreeBSD, was not related to Claws Mail.  :)
> > > 
> > > Anything that was printed (I had installed the PC-BSD
> > > distribiution.), would be chopped off at the top, e-mails, web
> > > pages, etc.
> > > 
> > > Not to mention that overall, it ran very slow on this particular
> > > hardware.  It's now running Debian Linux again.
> > 
> > So, what was the problem?
> 
> No clue.  I tried various margin settings, nothing would correct it.
> The HPLIP Test Page printed perfectly, nothing else would...  <shrug>

Welcome to the wonderful world of FreeBSD, where if it works like it is
suppose to, there has obviously been an oversight.

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From edwardp at linuxmail.org  Sat Dec 15 21:44:14 2012
From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 15:44:14 -0500
Subject: [Users] E-Mail Printing under FreeBSD
In-Reply-To: <20121215154034.446aefac@scorpio>
References: <20121206182710.1003a1f4@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121214165117.27a548b1@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121215100501.4563fadd@scorpio>
	<20121215102450.5e51b380@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121215154034.446aefac@scorpio>
Message-ID: <20121215154414.3b6a5c5e@debiantp.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 15:40:34 -0500
Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:


> > > So, what was the problem?
> > 
> > No clue.  I tried various margin settings, nothing would correct it.
> > The HPLIP Test Page printed perfectly, nothing else would...
> > <shrug>
> 
> Welcome to the wonderful world of FreeBSD, where if it works like it
> is suppose to, there has obviously been an oversight.

All I can say is that I gave it the old college try and I'm happy that
Claws Mail itself was not the problem.





From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec 15 22:46:36 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 22:46:36 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2838] New: NULL-ptr segfault with special plugin
	configuration
Message-ID: <bug-2838-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2838

           Summary: NULL-ptr segfault with special plugin configuration
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.9.0
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/ClamAV
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: mschwendt at gmail.com


Created an attachment (id=1209)
 --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1209)
one basic way to fix it

Claws Mail 3.9.0, plugin clamd 3.5.5

It's possible to make Claws Mail crash always upon opening the Clamav Plugin
Preferences after having fiddled with the plugin configuration.

Steps to reproduce:

1. in clawsrc remove all entries in [ClamAV] section
2. start Claws Mail
3. Load clamd plugin, if not loaded already
4. open clamd plugin preferences, enable virus checking + set clamd.conf folder
5. so far so good ;)
6. reopen clamd plugin preferences, disable virus checking
7. unload clamd plugin
8. load clamd plugin again
9. reopen clamd plugin preferences

Crash!

And it has become impossible to revisit the clamd preferences once more, as
unloading/loading the plugin doesn't change a thing. Restarting Claws Mail
doesn't fix it either.

In that state, clawsrc contains:

[ClamAV]
clamav_enable=0
clamav_max_size=1
clamav_recv_infected=1
clamav_save_folder=#mh/Mailbox/something
clamad_config_type=1
clamd_config_folder=/etc/clamd.d/scan.conf
clamd_host=
clamd_port=0

As one can see in the plugin source code, if clamav_enable=0, it creates a NULL
clamd config ptr, which it evaluates in the plugin preferences
clamav_show_config() method.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec 15 23:03:45 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 23:03:45 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2838] NULL-ptr segfault with special plugin
	configuration
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--- Comment #1 from Michael Schwendt  2012-12-15 23:03:44 ---
Instead of steps 7+8 (unload/load plugin), one can restart Claws Mail, too, of
course.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 16 05:52:58 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 05:52:58 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2838] NULL-ptr segfault with special plugin
	configuration
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2838


Michael Rasmussen <mir at datanom.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Severity|normal                      |major




--- Comment #2 from Michael Rasmussen  2012-12-16 05:52:57 ---
Hi Michael,

Thanks for your patch. I will however not commit it since your patch only fixes
a symptom for a much more serious bug. I have found the bug and more or less
provided the proper fix causing the crash you have discovered but it still
needs some more testing before I will commit it. The bug was caused by an
incomplete state where the plugin was activated before a proper configuration
was completed.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 16 10:15:40 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 10:15:40 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2838] NULL-ptr segfault with special plugin
	configuration
In-Reply-To: <bug-2838-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2838-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #3 from Michael Schwendt  2012-12-16 10:15:40 ---
That could be true. The patch was really just a hot-fix for the NULL-ptr issue
for anyone else who might be interested.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 16 13:38:23 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:38:23 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2385] Claws hangs with 100% CPU usage when attempting
 to load HTML mail
In-Reply-To: <bug-2385-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #9 from Edward  2012-12-16 13:38:21 ---
This still occurs with the HTML e-mails from Staples http://www.staples.com/
but it also freezes the Windows version of Claws, I'm currently using
3.9.0cvs12.

Ricardo mentions in Comment 7 that it renders fine with use of the Fancy
plugin, but the current Windows version does not include Fancy.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 16 14:06:30 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:06:30 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2838] NULL-ptr segfault with special plugin
	configuration
In-Reply-To: <bug-2838-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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Michael Rasmussen <mir at datanom.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |FIXED




--- Comment #4 from Michael Rasmussen  2012-12-16 14:06:29 ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest CVS and update the bug accordingly.

2012-12-16 [michael]    3.5.5cvs2

        * libclamd/clamd-plugin.c
        * src/clamav_plugin.c
        * src/clamav_plugin_gtk.c
            Fix bug 2838. Numerous changes made due to
            plugin in special cases could be activated
            with an incomplete configuration.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 16 14:23:43 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:23:43 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2385] Claws hangs with 100% CPU usage when attempting
 to load HTML mail
In-Reply-To: <bug-2385-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #10 from Edward  2012-12-16 14:23:42 ---
Created an attachment (id=1210)
 --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1210)
Top of Staples HTML e-mail using Fancy plugin with Claws 3.7.6 64-bit Debian
Linux

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 16 14:24:33 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:24:33 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2385] Claws hangs with 100% CPU usage when attempting
 to load HTML mail
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--- Comment #11 from Edward  2012-12-16 14:24:32 ---
Created an attachment (id=1211)
 --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1211)
Part of bottom portion of Staples HTML e-mail with Fancy Plugin 64-bit Debian
Linux

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 16 14:25:04 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:25:04 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2385] Claws hangs with 100% CPU usage when attempting
 to load HTML mail
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--- Comment #12 from Edward  2012-12-16 14:25:04 ---
When using Claws Mail 3.7.6 on 64-bit Debian Linux with the Fancy plugin, the
same e-mail doesn't really appear.  All I see are links at the top of the
e-mail/page, lots of white space (with black borders) then the standard Staples
page footer at the end.  Please see attachments.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 16 22:45:05 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:45:05 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2839] New: Inherit translation of Edit from gtk20.mo
 instead of using _Edit of Claws Mail
Message-ID: <bug-2839-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2839

           Summary: Inherit translation of Edit from gtk20.mo instead of
                    using _Edit of Claws Mail
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.1
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Address Book
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: khazarian at fastmail.in


Address book > Edit > Edit

The Edit menu under the Edit menu of the Address book dialog should utilize the
"_Edit" menu from gtk20.mo.


Why am I interested in doing the same for the menu entry in question?

In Hebrew, it is accepted to translate Edit in menu-bar to Editing, so using
the _Edit entry of claws-mail.mo does not make the Edit menu entry under the
Edit menu of the Address book dialog to look proper.


Buttons in which translations for _Edit is inherited from gtk20.mo

Configuration/Edit accounts...
Tools/Address book

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From edwardp at linuxmail.org  Mon Dec 17 01:19:32 2012
From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:19:32 -0500
Subject: [Users] E-Mail Printing under FreeBSD
In-Reply-To: <20121215154414.3b6a5c5e@debiantp.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
References: <20121206182710.1003a1f4@amd.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121214165117.27a548b1@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121215100501.4563fadd@scorpio>
	<20121215102450.5e51b380@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121215154034.446aefac@scorpio>
	<20121215154414.3b6a5c5e@debiantp.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20121216191932.095eea16@linuxmail.org>

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 15:44:14 -0500
<edwardp at linuxmail.org> wrote:

> All I can say is that I gave it the old college try and I'm happy that
> Claws Mail itself was not the problem.

Not sure what happened to my e-mail of earlier today, it didn't make it
to the list for some reason...

Anyway, this problem has been resolved.  It was the printer driver.

When I changed it from the default 'hpijs' to 'CUPS+Gutenprint',
everything, including Claws Mail e-mails, printed perfectly.  :)



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec 17 08:46:37 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 08:46:37 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2839] Inherit translation of Edit from gtk20.mo
 instead of using _Edit of Claws Mail
In-Reply-To: <bug-2839-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2839


Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
          Component|UI/Address Book             |UI/Translations




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From crlipton at gol.com  Mon Dec 17 15:51:37 2012
From: crlipton at gol.com (Charles Lipton)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 23:51:37 +0900
Subject: [Users] Possible Newbie Issues - v.3.90.0
Message-ID: <20121217235137.354c8e5c@onk-01>

I have spent nearly four weeks solving several self-inflicted problems
with my desktop which has led (via several different Debian-based OS
tryouts) to upgrading my OS to Linux Mint 14RC, so I could keep
Ubuntu-type commands with a KDE desktop, and upgrading Claws Mail from
3.8.1 to 3.9.0.  

My main problem has been getting Claws to accept my previous settings
and folders.  That was until I opened Dolphin as root and discovered
that all of the files I'd saved to a spare HDD prior to doing a clean
install of Linux Mint were being transferred to my new desktop with
ownership reset to root rather than user.  Once I changed the
permissions, things seemed to generally run properly with two
exceptions:

1.  I am unable to force message filtering after receive.  When I
switch to my inbox and click Tools -> Filter all messages in folder
filtering takes place without error.  However it will not automate.  

- The filter after receive option is selected in the setup for each of
  my three accounts.

- In my accountrc file, the relevant lines read:

filter_on_receive=1
filterhook_on_receive=1

- I have not checked the permission box to use an external program for
  receiving and haven't tried that option.

2.  Clamd doesn't start.  I asked about this issue a couple of weeks
ago and it only brought a response that was basically a repeat of what
is available online.  My problem is that clamd does not start but
clamav seems to be working.  I have followed the man page instructions
for creating a new clamd, setting all options to default, and it
still does not start nor do I find anything that is a trigger.  Is there
a way to manually start clamd for testing and then to make it start
automatically with Claws once it works reliably?  

-- 
Charles Lipton
crlipton at gol.com


From boudiccas at talktalk.net  Mon Dec 17 16:12:27 2012
From: boudiccas at talktalk.net (Sharon Kimble)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:12:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] Possible Newbie Issues - v.3.90.0
In-Reply-To: <20121217235137.354c8e5c@onk-01>
References: <20121217235137.354c8e5c@onk-01>
Message-ID: <20121217151227.51f38e72@London.dlink.com>

On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 23:51:37 +0900
Charles Lipton <crlipton at gol.com> wrote:

> I have spent nearly four weeks solving several self-inflicted problems
> with my desktop which has led (via several different Debian-based OS
> tryouts) to upgrading my OS to Linux Mint 14RC, so I could keep
> Ubuntu-type commands with a KDE desktop, and upgrading Claws Mail from
> 3.8.1 to 3.9.0.  
> 
> My main problem has been getting Claws to accept my previous settings
> and folders.  That was until I opened Dolphin as root and discovered
> that all of the files I'd saved to a spare HDD prior to doing a clean
> install of Linux Mint were being transferred to my new desktop with
> ownership reset to root rather than user.  Once I changed the
> permissions, things seemed to generally run properly with two
> exceptions:
> 
> 1.  I am unable to force message filtering after receive.  When I
> switch to my inbox and click Tools -> Filter all messages in folder
> filtering takes place without error.  However it will not automate.  
> 
> - The filter after receive option is selected in the setup for each of
>   my three accounts.
> 
> - In my accountrc file, the relevant lines read:
> 
> filter_on_receive=1
> filterhook_on_receive=1
> 
> - I have not checked the permission box to use an external program for
>   receiving and haven't tried that option.
> 
> 2.  Clamd doesn't start.  I asked about this issue a couple of weeks
> ago and it only brought a response that was basically a repeat of what
> is available online.  My problem is that clamd does not start but
> clamav seems to be working.  I have followed the man page instructions
> for creating a new clamd, setting all options to default, and it
> still does not start nor do I find anything that is a trigger.  Is
> there a way to manually start clamd for testing and then to make it
> start automatically with Claws once it works reliably?  
> 
I had the same problem with clamd, it was solved by installing
clamav-daemon, maybe thats what you're missing?

Thanks
Sharon.
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From jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com  Mon Dec 17 16:45:37 2012
From: jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com (Jeremy Schneider)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:45:37 -0500
Subject: [Users] IMAP server-side search?
Message-ID: <20121217104537.78c9b429@jeremy-nb>

Aside from reading source code and/or looking for patches... anyone
know where I can find info about the new "server-side IMAP search"
feature that was announced in the 3.9.0 release notes? For example...
when does it get used or not get used - do all the extended search
options support it?  Will any searches trigger downloading all the
message bodies in a folder?

Is there a wiki page or anything where this info is gathered? Since
this is something I'm using, is there someplace I could post a digest
of my findings if I ever manage to put that together? Maybe just back
to this list?  :)

Also, any quick tips about where to look for the actual source - I'm
curious how it was implemented and might read a little bit when I have
some time.

-Jeremy


From colin at colino.net  Mon Dec 17 17:01:39 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:01:39 +0100
Subject: [Users] IMAP server-side search?
In-Reply-To: <20121217104537.78c9b429@jeremy-nb>
References: <20121217104537.78c9b429@jeremy-nb>
Message-ID: <20121217170139.18235d1a@colin>

On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:45:37 -0500, Jeremy Schneider
<jeremy.schneider at ardentperf.com> wrote:

> Aside from reading source code and/or looking for patches... anyone
> know where I can find info about the new "server-side IMAP search"
> feature that was announced in the 3.9.0 release notes? For example...
> when does it get used or not get used - do all the extended search
> options support it?  Will any searches trigger downloading all the
> message bodies in a folder?

Normally no, apart if the server fails to search and returns an error.
Then, there's a fallback to local body matching.

Server-side matching could be used for most of the extended searches,
but it will be used for body matching, and non-cached headers matching.
For the rest, local searches are faster.

> Is there a wiki page or anything where this info is gathered? Since
> this is something I'm using, is there someplace I could post a digest
> of my findings if I ever manage to put that together? Maybe just back
> to this list?  :)

Yes, good idea.
 
> Also, any quick tips about where to look for the actual source - I'm
> curious how it was implemented and might read a little bit when I have
> some time.

In src/imap.c, you'll find the folder search_msgs implementation, with
most of the extended search/IMAP syntax matching done in
search_make_key().

The rest is in src/etpan/imap-thread.c, but that's mostly plumbing there.
-- 
Colin


From mir at miras.org  Mon Dec 17 17:37:59 2012
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:37:59 +0100
Subject: [Users] Possible Newbie Issues - v.3.90.0
In-Reply-To: <20121217151227.51f38e72@London.dlink.com>
References: <20121217235137.354c8e5c@onk-01>
	<20121217151227.51f38e72@London.dlink.com>
Message-ID: <20121217173759.7c2f360f@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:12:27 +0000
Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote:

> I had the same problem with clamd, it was solved by installing
> clamav-daemon, maybe thats what you're missing?
> 
If you want to have your virus signatures update, and who does not want
that, then remember to install clamav-freshclam if it is not installed
automatically be clamav-daemon.

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From dan_arico at aricosystems.com  Mon Dec 17 23:06:59 2012
From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:06:59 -0500
Subject: [Users] Address Book
Message-ID: <20121217170659.5881aee5.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>

I've been trying to clean up my address book and I've run into a
problem. One section is labeled MyGnomeCard. Everything in there is
read only. I can't edit or delete anything. I know that must be
pointing to a file somewhere, but I haven't been able to locate it.

Does anyone know where it is?

Dan Arico 

-- 
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One OS to bring them all, and in the Darkness bind them,
In the land of Redmond, where the Sales Reps lie.


From crlipton at gol.com  Tue Dec 18 12:33:38 2012
From: crlipton at gol.com (Charles Lipton)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 20:33:38 +0900
Subject: [Users] Possible Newbie Issues - v.3.90.0
Message-ID: <20121218203338.1999f54e@onk-01>

>On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 23:51:37 +0900
>Charles Lipton <crlipton at gol.com> wrote:
>
>> 2.  My problem is that clamd does not start but
>> clamav seems to be working. 

And on Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:12:27 +0000
Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net>

>I had the same problem with clamd, it was solved by installing
>clamav-daemon, maybe thats what you're missing?

Sharon,

That worked perfectly.  Thanks for the suggestion. I hope the solution
to my other problem can be fixed as easily.

-- 
Charles Lipton
crlipton at gol.com


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 18 12:39:17 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 11:39:17 +0000
Subject: [Users] Possible Newbie Issues - v.3.90.0
In-Reply-To: <20121217235137.354c8e5c@onk-01>
References: <20121217235137.354c8e5c@onk-01>
Message-ID: <20121218113917.5ba5e979@thewildbeast>

On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 23:51:37 +0900
Charles Lipton <crlipton at gol.com> wrote: 

> 1.  I am unable to force message filtering after receive.  When I
> switch to my inbox and click Tools -> Filter all messages in folder
> filtering takes place without error.  However it will not
> automate.  
> 
> - The filter after receive option is selected in the setup for each
> of my three accounts.

Turn on the Filtering Log on the /Other/Logging page of the prefs,
then view the log via /Tools/Filtering Log in the main window. This
should tell you something useful about the failure of your filtering.
Feel free to post the log output here if you cannot make sense of it.

with regards

Paul


-- 
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but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Tue Dec 18 12:57:00 2012
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 11:57:00 +0000
Subject: [Users] Possible Newbie Issues - v.3.90.0
In-Reply-To: <20121217235137.354c8e5c@onk-01>
References: <20121217235137.354c8e5c@onk-01>
Message-ID: <20121218115700.2fdb1bce@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 23:51:37 +0900
Charles Lipton <crlipton at gol.com> wrote:

Hello Charles,

>1.  I am unable to force message filtering after receive.  When I

Doing what Paul suggests, turn on filter logging, can massively slow
down the mail import process, so be prepared for a bit of a wait.

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From btj at havleik.no  Tue Dec 18 15:40:50 2012
From: btj at havleik.no (=?UTF-8?B?QmrDuHJu?= T Johansen)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:40:50 +0100
Subject: [Users] Question about SMTP servers?
Message-ID: <20121218154050.54f43cff@havleik.no>

I have an internal SMTP server and internal DNS, but also an external SMTP server... When I am in my LAN, I send mail via, lets say, mail.havleik.no. On my LAN this has an
unoffical ip address and does not support authentication. When I am away from home, I still send mail via mail.havleik.no but now this is a different SMTP server that uses
authentication..
So my question is, can I configurate this somehow in CM? I.e. using no authentication when I am on my LAN and using authentication when I am not?


Regards,

BTJ

-- 
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btj at havleik.no
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"I understand that if you play a Windows CD backwards you hear strange Satanic messages"
To which someone replied:
"It's even worse than that; play it forwards and it installs Windows"
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From andrej at kacian.sk  Tue Dec 18 15:56:55 2012
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:56:55 +0100
Subject: [Users] Question about SMTP servers?
In-Reply-To: <20121218154050.54f43cff@havleik.no>
References: <20121218154050.54f43cff@havleik.no>
Message-ID: <20121218155655.6ef4f345@hiker>

On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:40:50 +0100
Bjørn T Johansen <btj at havleik.no> wrote:

> I have an internal SMTP server and internal DNS, but also an external
> SMTP server... When I am in my LAN, I send mail via, lets say,
> mail.havleik.no. On my LAN this has an unoffical ip address and does
> not support authentication. When I am away from home, I still send
> mail via mail.havleik.no but now this is a different SMTP server that
> uses authentication.. So my question is, can I configurate this
> somehow in CM? I.e. using no authentication when I am on my LAN and
> using authentication when I am not?

You can either have two separate accounts (differing only in SMTP auth
setting), or configure the "internal" SMTP server to authenticate
against same user database. I have my home mail server set up like
this, so I do SMTP auth no matter where I'm connecting from.

AFAIK Claws Mail doesn't have any "try sending without authenticating,
authenticate and send again if it fails" behavior.

Regards,
-- 
Andrej


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 18 17:24:12 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:24:12 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2821] Add search facilities for filter rules
In-Reply-To: <bug-2821-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2821-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121218162412.E1900853DB@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2821


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--- Comment #3 from Ricardo Mones  2012-12-18 17:24:12 ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 1871 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 18 17:24:13 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:24:13 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1871] filtering find and/or subset display
In-Reply-To: <bug-1871-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-1871-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121218162413.271298549A@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1871


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--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones  2012-12-18 17:24:12 ---
*** Bug 2821 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From keithrbaugroups at gmail.com  Wed Dec 19 03:02:34 2012
From: keithrbaugroups at gmail.com (Keith Bainbridge)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 13:02:34 +1100
Subject: [Users] Question about SMTP servers?
In-Reply-To: <20121218154050.54f43cff@havleik.no>
References: <20121218154050.54f43cff@havleik.no>
Message-ID: <20121219130234.6fb02b66@mackbunt>

G'day


G'day Bjorn,

Sounds like you are making things complicated. 

I have my laptop set up so that my SMTP is my ISP, with 
authentication.  CM figures out how to connect to the SMTP based on my
connection at the time - LAN or my mobile phone. I don't need to think
about where I am.

Regards



Keith Bainbridge
PO Box 324
BELMONT Vic 3216 Australia
 +61 (0)447 667 468

keith.bainbridge.3216 at gmail.com 

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From itz at buug.org  Wed Dec 19 03:15:44 2012
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 18:15:44 -0800
Subject: [Users] Unhiding messages
Message-ID: <20121218181544.396e1474.itz@buug.org>

I have defined a processing rule that lowers the score of some messages,
and a post-processing rule that hides all messages with a negative
score.  This works well - too well, because I can't see any way to
unhide them, so they're as good as gone WRT claws.  How can I unhide the
hidden messages?

I am using claws 3.8.1 and I'd prefer an answer that works for this
version, of course, but information about later versions will be of some
value too.  Thanks.

-- 
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From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Wed Dec 19 03:47:35 2012
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 21:47:35 -0500
Subject: [Users] Question about SMTP servers?
In-Reply-To: <20121218154050.54f43cff@havleik.no>
References: <20121218154050.54f43cff@havleik.no>
Message-ID: <20121218214735.000027d0@unknown>

On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:40:50 +0100
Bjørn T Johansen <btj at havleik.no> wrote:

> uses authentication.. So my question is, can I configurate this
> somehow in CM? I.e. using no authentication when I am on my LAN and
> using authentication when I am not?

There's going to be manual switching between SMTP servers if you need
to switch between SMTP servers. If you store your mail on your ISP's
servers then there's little point to it. Just use the ISP for
everything all the time.

I avoid the problem entirely by using SSH tunnels into my home network
and setting the host and ports to localhost:### as appropriate. This
way I am bridged to my private network for all mail handling regardless
of my physical location. I do it this way because I have a private IMAP
server that I control (security, backups, etc.) for storing all of my
mail.

-- 
Rich P.


From btj at havleik.no  Wed Dec 19 10:20:39 2012
From: btj at havleik.no (=?UTF-8?B?QmrDuHJu?= T Johansen)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:20:39 +0100
Subject: [Users] Question about SMTP servers?
In-Reply-To: <20121218214735.000027d0@unknown>
References: <20121218154050.54f43cff@havleik.no>
	<20121218214735.000027d0@unknown>
Message-ID: <20121219102039.1e98bc1c@havleik.no>

On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 21:47:35 -0500
Rich Pieri <richard.pieri at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:40:50 +0100
> Bjørn T Johansen <btj at havleik.no> wrote:
> 
> > uses authentication.. So my question is, can I configurate this
> > somehow in CM? I.e. using no authentication when I am on my LAN and
> > using authentication when I am not?
> 
> There's going to be manual switching between SMTP servers if you need
> to switch between SMTP servers. If you store your mail on your ISP's
> servers then there's little point to it. Just use the ISP for
> everything all the time.
> 
> I avoid the problem entirely by using SSH tunnels into my home network
> and setting the host and ports to localhost:### as appropriate. This
> way I am bridged to my private network for all mail handling regardless
> of my physical location. I do it this way because I have a private IMAP
> server that I control (security, backups, etc.) for storing all of my
> mail.
> 

Yes, that's what I also have, my own imap server... But I have moved the imap server out of my home, but I still like to use my own smtp server at
home, because of the speed of sending emails... :)

But I guess doing this automatic is not possible and since it is only me using the smpt server at home, I can add smtp authentication at home for my
user, this seems to be the easiest solution...


BTJ


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 19 14:11:59 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:11:59 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2667] locking destination folder after a mail
 attachment is being saved
In-Reply-To: <bug-2667-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2667-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121219131159.CF4BE853E3@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2667


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--- Comment #2 from Colin Leroy  2012-12-19 14:11:58 ---
Can't reproduce that with newer versions...

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From rod_myers at fastmail.fm  Wed Dec 19 14:50:14 2012
From: rod_myers at fastmail.fm (Rodney D. Myers)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 08:50:14 -0500
Subject: [Users] convert from Thunderbird
Message-ID: <50D1C616.9090304@fastmail.fm>


Is there a way to use the Thunderbird setup, and move easily into
Claws-Mail?

I'm coming back from a significant time away on OSX, and Thunderbird.

I like the ability to have the ability to store locally email, and I
have the folder hierarchy set the way I like it

Thank you

-- 
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little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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From mm at edor.eu  Wed Dec 19 15:00:15 2012
From: mm at edor.eu (Uwe)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:00:15 +0100
Subject: [Users] convert from Thunderbird
In-Reply-To: <50D1C616.9090304@fastmail.fm>
References: <50D1C616.9090304@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <20121219150015.122dbf65@gp>


you should go here:

http://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php?section=downloads

On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 08:50:14 -0500
"Rodney D. Myers" <rod_myers at fastmail.fm> wrote:

> 
> Is there a way to use the Thunderbird setup, and move easily into
> Claws-Mail?
> 
> I'm coming back from a significant time away on OSX, and Thunderbird.
> 
> I like the ability to have the ability to store locally email, and I
> have the folder hierarchy set the way I like it
> 
> Thank you
> 


best regards,
Uwe


From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Wed Dec 19 16:07:17 2012
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:07:17 -0500
Subject: [Users] Question about SMTP servers?
In-Reply-To: <20121219102039.1e98bc1c@havleik.no>
References: <20121218154050.54f43cff@havleik.no>
	<20121218214735.000027d0@unknown>
	<20121219102039.1e98bc1c@havleik.no>
Message-ID: <20121219100717.00006590@unknown>

On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:20:39 +0100
Bjørn T Johansen <btj at havleik.no> wrote:

> But I guess doing this automatic is not possible and since it is only
> me using the smpt server at home, I can add smtp authentication at
> home for my user, this seems to be the easiest solution...

This will not work. It isn't the authentication. It's the SSL
certificates used to encrypt communications. Your certificates won't
match your ISP's certificates so you're still going to need to switch
between multiple configurations.

The easiest solution is to choose one SMTP server for an account.

-- 
Rich P.


From btj at havleik.no  Wed Dec 19 23:42:29 2012
From: btj at havleik.no (=?UTF-8?B?QmrDuHJu?= T Johansen)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 23:42:29 +0100
Subject: [Users] Question about SMTP servers?
In-Reply-To: <20121219100717.00006590@unknown>
References: <20121218154050.54f43cff@havleik.no>
	<20121218214735.000027d0@unknown>
	<20121219102039.1e98bc1c@havleik.no>
	<20121219100717.00006590@unknown>
Message-ID: <20121219234229.3c86fe99@havleik.no>

On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:07:17 -0500
Rich Pieri <richard.pieri at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:20:39 +0100
> Bjørn T Johansen <btj at havleik.no> wrote:
> 
> > But I guess doing this automatic is not possible and since it is only
> > me using the smpt server at home, I can add smtp authentication at
> > home for my user, this seems to be the easiest solution...
> 
> This will not work. It isn't the authentication. It's the SSL
> certificates used to encrypt communications. Your certificates won't
> match your ISP's certificates so you're still going to need to switch
> between multiple configurations.
> 
> The easiest solution is to choose one SMTP server for an account.
> 

Actually I am not using SSL when sending emails, so this solution works fine... :)


BTJ


From rod_myers at fastmail.fm  Thu Dec 20 01:06:09 2012
From: rod_myers at fastmail.fm (Rodney D. Myers)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:06:09 -0500
Subject: [Users] convert from Thunderbird
In-Reply-To: <20121219150015.122dbf65@gp>
References: <50D1C616.9090304@fastmail.fm>
	<20121219150015.122dbf65@gp>
Message-ID: <20121219190609.7dbac18b@rodney-desktop>

On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:00:15 +0100
Uwe <mm at edor.eu> wrote:

> 
> you should go here:
> 
> http://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php?section=downloads
> 
> On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 08:50:14 -0500
> "Rodney D. Myers" <rod_myers at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Is there a way to use the Thunderbird setup, and move easily into
> > Claws-Mail?
> > 
> > I'm coming back from a significant time away on OSX, and
> > Thunderbird.
> > 
> > I like the ability to have the ability to store locally email, and I
> > have the folder hierarchy set the way I like it
> > 
> > Thank you
> > 
> 
> 
> best regards,
> Uwe

Thank you. Got everything working. I think.

Not sure who maintains the scripts, but the filter script converted
them, but I had to edit all of the paths to reflect the "correct" paths.

Otherwise, it appears to have worked

Again thank you


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From mm at edor.eu  Thu Dec 20 01:34:13 2012
From: mm at edor.eu (Uwe)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 01:34:13 +0100
Subject: [Users] convert from Thunderbird
In-Reply-To: <20121219190609.7dbac18b@rodney-desktop>
References: <50D1C616.9090304@fastmail.fm> <20121219150015.122dbf65@gp>
	<20121219190609.7dbac18b@rodney-desktop>
Message-ID: <20121220013413.095b74fe@gp>


On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:06:09 -0500
"Rodney D. Myers" <rod_myers at fastmail.fm> wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:00:15 +0100
> Uwe <mm at edor.eu> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > you should go here:
> > 
> > http://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php?section=downloads
> > 
> > On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 08:50:14 -0500
> > "Rodney D. Myers" <rod_myers at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Is there a way to use the Thunderbird setup, and move easily into
> > > Claws-Mail?
> > > 
> > > I'm coming back from a significant time away on OSX, and
> > > Thunderbird.
> > > 
> > > I like the ability to have the ability to store locally email,
> > > and I have the folder hierarchy set the way I like it
> > > 
> > > Thank you
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > best regards,
> > Uwe
> 
> Thank you. Got everything working. I think.
> 
> Not sure who maintains the scripts, but the filter script converted
> them, but I had to edit all of the paths to reflect the "correct"
> paths.
> 
> Otherwise, it appears to have worked
> 
> Again thank you
> 
> 

after you do a import of a mbox file, the small symbols for
attachments, signature and encryption are not shown in the messages
list. After opening each mail in claws, the small symbols come up.

Do you have this issue? I made a script for these, some years ago.


best regards,
Uwe


From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Thu Dec 20 02:11:21 2012
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:11:21 -0500
Subject: [Users] Question about SMTP servers?
In-Reply-To: <20121219234229.3c86fe99@havleik.no>
References: <20121218154050.54f43cff@havleik.no>
	<20121218214735.000027d0@unknown>
	<20121219102039.1e98bc1c@havleik.no>
	<20121219100717.00006590@unknown>
	<20121219234229.3c86fe99@havleik.no>
Message-ID: <20121219201121.000069eb@unknown>

On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 23:42:29 +0100
Bjørn T Johansen <btj at havleik.no> wrote:

> Actually I am not using SSL when sending emails, so this solution
> works fine... :)

Hold on. Let me make sure I have this right.

Assumption 1: Your ISP requires authentication for SMTP. I assume that
your ISP does use SSL to encrypt authentication for SMTP. Correct me if
I am mistaken.

Assumption 2: You do not use SSL on your private network because it is
a private network. Again, correct me if I am mistaken.

Case 1: Use CM configured for your private network. This will not work
with your ISP given Assumption 1 above.

Case 2: Use CM configured for your ISP's mail relay. This will not work
with your private SMTP server given Assumption 2.

Is this an accurate summary? If so then the answer to your question is
that this isn't a CM issue at all. No MUA that I can think of can do
what you want without using multiple account profiles. The simple
solution is Case 2 as I suggested. It works on any network barring
those networks that explicitly or accidentally block mail traffic.

-- 
Rich P.


From rod_myers at fastmail.fm  Thu Dec 20 02:28:21 2012
From: rod_myers at fastmail.fm (Rodney D. Myers)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:28:21 -0500
Subject: [Users] convert from Thunderbird
In-Reply-To: <20121220013413.095b74fe@gp>
References: <50D1C616.9090304@fastmail.fm> <20121219150015.122dbf65@gp>
	<20121219190609.7dbac18b@rodney-desktop>
	<20121220013413.095b74fe@gp>
Message-ID: <20121219202821.1640ebac@rodney-desktop>

On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 01:34:13 +0100
Uwe <mm at edor.eu> wrote:

> 
> On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:06:09 -0500
> "Rodney D. Myers" <rod_myers at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:00:15 +0100
> > Uwe <mm at edor.eu> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > you should go here:
> > > 
> > > http://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php?section=downloads
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 08:50:14 -0500
> > > "Rodney D. Myers" <rod_myers at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Is there a way to use the Thunderbird setup, and move easily
> > > > into Claws-Mail?
> > > > 
> > > > I'm coming back from a significant time away on OSX, and
> > > > Thunderbird.
> > > > 
> > > > I like the ability to have the ability to store locally email,
> > > > and I have the folder hierarchy set the way I like it
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > best regards,
> > > Uwe
> > 
> > Thank you. Got everything working. I think.
> > 
> > Not sure who maintains the scripts, but the filter script converted
> > them, but I had to edit all of the paths to reflect the "correct"
> > paths.
> > 
> > Otherwise, it appears to have worked
> > 
> > Again thank you
> > 
> > 
> 
> after you do a import of a mbox file, the small symbols for
> attachments, signature and encryption are not shown in the messages
> list. After opening each mail in claws, the small symbols come up.
> 
> Do you have this issue? I made a script for these, some years ago.
> 
> 
> best regards,
> Uwe

Never noticed. But I did just "open" a few email messages I know that
have attachments, the show.

So I guess I don't need the script. Thank you

-- 
Rodney D. Myers <rod_dmyers at fastmail.fm>

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
        Ben Franklin - 1759
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From rod_myers at fastmail.fm  Thu Dec 20 03:03:02 2012
From: rod_myers at fastmail.fm (Rodney D. Myers)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:03:02 -0500
Subject: [Users] convert from Thunderbird
In-Reply-To: <20121219202821.1640ebac@rodney-desktop>
References: <50D1C616.9090304@fastmail.fm> <20121219150015.122dbf65@gp>
	<20121219190609.7dbac18b@rodney-desktop>
	<20121220013413.095b74fe@gp>
	<20121219202821.1640ebac@rodney-desktop>
Message-ID: <20121219210302.620147fd@rodney-desktop>

On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:28:21 -0500
"Rodney D. Myers" <rod_myers at fastmail.fm> wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 01:34:13 +0100
> Uwe <mm at edor.eu> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:06:09 -0500
> > "Rodney D. Myers" <rod_myers at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:00:15 +0100
> > > Uwe <mm at edor.eu> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > you should go here:
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php?section=downloads
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 08:50:14 -0500
> > > > "Rodney D. Myers" <rod_myers at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is there a way to use the Thunderbird setup, and move easily
> > > > > into Claws-Mail?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm coming back from a significant time away on OSX, and
> > > > > Thunderbird.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I like the ability to have the ability to store locally email,
> > > > > and I have the folder hierarchy set the way I like it
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thank you
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > best regards,
> > > > Uwe
> > > 
> > > Thank you. Got everything working. I think.
> > > 
> > > Not sure who maintains the scripts, but the filter script
> > > converted them, but I had to edit all of the paths to reflect the
> > > "correct" paths.
> > > 
> > > Otherwise, it appears to have worked
> > > 
> > > Again thank you
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > after you do a import of a mbox file, the small symbols for
> > attachments, signature and encryption are not shown in the messages
> > list. After opening each mail in claws, the small symbols come up.
> > 
> > Do you have this issue? I made a script for these, some years ago.
> > 
> > 
> > best regards,
> > Uwe
> 
> Never noticed. But I did just "open" a few email messages I know that
> have attachments, the show.
> 
> So I guess I don't need the script. Thank you
> 

The one thing I am having issues with.

When I "send" an email from any of my accounts, it does not get saved
to the "Sent" folder on the local system setup. Not sure  what I'm
missing ..

Thanks

-- 
Rodney D. Myers <rod_dmyers at fastmail.fm>

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
        Ben Franklin - 1759
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From btj at havleik.no  Thu Dec 20 07:19:52 2012
From: btj at havleik.no (=?UTF-8?B?QmrDuHJu?= T Johansen)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 07:19:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] Question about SMTP servers?
In-Reply-To: <20121219201121.000069eb@unknown>
References: <20121218154050.54f43cff@havleik.no>
	<20121218214735.000027d0@unknown>
	<20121219102039.1e98bc1c@havleik.no>
	<20121219100717.00006590@unknown>
	<20121219234229.3c86fe99@havleik.no>
	<20121219201121.000069eb@unknown>
Message-ID: <20121220071952.25c62b7c@havleik.no>

On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:11:21 -0500
Rich Pieri <richard.pieri at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 23:42:29 +0100
> Bjørn T Johansen <btj at havleik.no> wrote:
> 
> > Actually I am not using SSL when sending emails, so this solution
> > works fine... :)
> 
> Hold on. Let me make sure I have this right.
> 
> Assumption 1: Your ISP requires authentication for SMTP. I assume that
> your ISP does use SSL to encrypt authentication for SMTP. Correct me if
> I am mistaken.
> 
> Assumption 2: You do not use SSL on your private network because it is
> a private network. Again, correct me if I am mistaken.
> 
> Case 1: Use CM configured for your private network. This will not work
> with your ISP given Assumption 1 above.
> 
> Case 2: Use CM configured for your ISP's mail relay. This will not work
> with your private SMTP server given Assumption 2.
> 
> Is this an accurate summary? If so then the answer to your question is
> that this isn't a CM issue at all. No MUA that I can think of can do
> what you want without using multiple account profiles. The simple
> solution is Case 2 as I suggested. It works on any network barring
> those networks that explicitly or accidentally block mail traffic.
> 

As I said, using my solution works fine... :) I am not using ISP SMTP server, but both the internal and external SMTP servers are mine... And both have the same DNS name, since I
have an internal DNS and external DNS... I use TLS for authentication on both and CM works now as I want, sending via my internal SMTP at home and external SMTP when I am not... :)


BTJ


From inigo_aldazabal at ehu.es  Thu Dec 20 09:48:20 2012
From: inigo_aldazabal at ehu.es (Inigo Aldazabal Mensa)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:48:20 +0100
Subject: [Users] convert from Thunderbird
In-Reply-To: <20121220013413.095b74fe@gp>
References: <50D1C616.9090304@fastmail.fm> <20121219150015.122dbf65@gp>
	<20121219190609.7dbac18b@rodney-desktop>
	<20121220013413.095b74fe@gp>
Message-ID: <20121220094820.207ff993@U002498.sn.ehu.es>

On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 01:34:13 +0100
Uwe <mm at edor.eu> wrote:

> 
> On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:06:09 -0500
> "Rodney D. Myers" <rod_myers at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:00:15 +0100
> > Uwe <mm at edor.eu> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > you should go here:
> > > 
> > > http://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php?section=downloads
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 08:50:14 -0500
> > > "Rodney D. Myers" <rod_myers at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Is there a way to use the Thunderbird setup, and move easily
> > > > into Claws-Mail?
> > > > 
> > > > I'm coming back from a significant time away on OSX, and
> > > > Thunderbird.
> > > > 
> > > > I like the ability to have the ability to store locally email,
> > > > and I have the folder hierarchy set the way I like it
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > best regards,
> > > Uwe
> > 
> > Thank you. Got everything working. I think.
> > 
> > Not sure who maintains the scripts, but the filter script converted
> > them, but I had to edit all of the paths to reflect the "correct"
> > paths.
> > 
> > Otherwise, it appears to have worked
> > 
> > Again thank you
> > 
> > 
> 
> after you do a import of a mbox file, the small symbols for
> attachments, signature and encryption are not shown in the messages
> list. After opening each mail in claws, the small symbols come up.
> 
> Do you have this issue? I made a script for these, some years ago.

I am interested in such script, if possible. I just made a script to
migrate kmail flags over to claws, but could not manage the attachments
flag part as it didn't seem to be written to .claws_mark, as far as I
could tell.

The solution I found was to make a fake processing rule and, after first
kmail import and subsequent flags postprocessing, batch process all
folders on claws startup so that the attachment flags appear. This took
a while as I have about 10GB of emails, but it just has to be done once.

If possible I'd like to add this feature to the script.

Bests,

Inigo


> 
> 
> best regards,
> Uwe
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 20 10:26:32 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:26:32 +0000
Subject: [Users] convert from Thunderbird
In-Reply-To: <20121219210302.620147fd@rodney-desktop>
References: <50D1C616.9090304@fastmail.fm> <20121219150015.122dbf65@gp>
	<20121219190609.7dbac18b@rodney-desktop>
	<20121220013413.095b74fe@gp>
	<20121219202821.1640ebac@rodney-desktop>
	<20121219210302.620147fd@rodney-desktop>
Message-ID: <20121220092632.13874d25@thewildbeast>

On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:03:02 -0500
"Rodney D. Myers" <rod_myers at fastmail.fm> wrote: 

> When I "send" an email from any of my accounts, it does not get
> saved to the "Sent" folder on the local system setup. Not sure
> what I'm missing ..

The Advanced page of the Account Preferences is where you will find
the option for this. It can be changed on the fly on the 'Others' tab
of the compose window.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 20 10:43:04 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:43:04 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2840] New: [GeoLocation] Frame-less globe button
Message-ID: <bug-2840-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2840

           Summary: [GeoLocation] Frame-less globe button
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.1
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: khazarian at fastmail.in


Remove the frame from the globe button, just like the lock icon.
See: Click the icon or hit 'C' to check it.

Version: 0.0.8

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 20 10:46:56 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:46:56 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2841] New: [GeoLocation] Blank message from for
 vCalendar messages
Message-ID: <bug-2841-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2841

           Summary: [GeoLocation] Blank message from for vCalendar
                    messages
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.1
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: khazarian at fastmail.in


Open a vCalendar meeting message.
Click on the globe button.
  (example output: Alleged country of origin: Libyan Arab Jamahiriya)
Message frame is blanked.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 20 10:47:21 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:47:21 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2841] [GeoLocation] Blank message for vCalendar
	messages
In-Reply-To: <bug-2841-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2841-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121220094724.79B3E85641@mx.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2841


khazarian at fastmail.in changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
            Summary|[GeoLocation] Blank message |[GeoLocation] Blank message
                   |from for vCalendar messages |for vCalendar messages




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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 20 11:17:46 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 11:17:46 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2842] New: [GeoLocation] Use geoiplookup & geoiplookup6
Message-ID: <bug-2842-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2842

           Summary: [GeoLocation] Use geoiplookup & geoiplookup6
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.1
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: khazarian at fastmail.in


1) When failed or could not to resolve location of IP address, use geoiplookup
as last resort.

2) Make an option to use only geoiplookup & geoiplookup6 or just the database
that these two are utilizing.

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From rod_myers at fastmail.fm  Thu Dec 20 12:07:43 2012
From: rod_myers at fastmail.fm (Rodney D. Myers)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 06:07:43 -0500
Subject: [Users] convert from Thunderbird
In-Reply-To: <20121220092632.13874d25@thewildbeast>
References: <50D1C616.9090304@fastmail.fm> <20121219150015.122dbf65@gp>
	<20121219190609.7dbac18b@rodney-desktop>
	<20121220013413.095b74fe@gp>
	<20121219202821.1640ebac@rodney-desktop>
	<20121219210302.620147fd@rodney-desktop>
	<20121220092632.13874d25@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20121220060743.670663cf@rodney-desktop>

On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:26:32 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> Tags: $IsMailingList, $X-ME-Annot-2 
> From: Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>
> To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] convert from Thunderbird
> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:26:32 +0000
> Sender: users-bounces at lists.claws-mail.org
> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0cvs49 (GTK+ 2.24.13; i686-pc-linux-gnu)
> Organization: theWildBeast
> 
> On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:03:02 -0500
> "Rodney D. Myers" <rod_myers at fastmail.fm> wrote: 
> 
>  [...]  
> 
> The Advanced page of the Account Preferences is where you will find
> the option for this. It can be changed on the fly on the 'Others' tab
> of the compose window.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul

Thank you.

I could have sworn I looked there before. evidently not.

-- 
Rodney D. Myers <rod_dmyers at fastmail.fm>

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little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
        Ben Franklin - 1759
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 20 13:19:46 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 13:19:46 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2843] New: Reply 'autowrap' eats \n in certain
	conditions
Message-ID: <bug-2843-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2843

           Summary: Reply 'autowrap' eats \n  in certain conditions
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: CVS
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: marcel at hsdev.com


I have a reply template which looks like this: https://gist.github.com/4344806

Occassionally i need to top post. When I use this template and start typing on
the first line, when 'autowrap' positions the cursor on the next line, I would
expect the next line to move down, but it does not.

I have attached a little video showing the issue.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 20 13:23:36 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 13:23:36 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2843] Reply 'autowrap' eats \n in certain conditions
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References: <bug-2843-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #1 from Marcel van der Boom  2012-12-20 13:23:36 ---
This is the reply template:

'

On %date_fmt{%a %d-%b-%Y %H:%M}
%from wrote:

%quoted_msg
%cursor
'

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 20 13:25:35 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 13:25:35 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2843] Reply 'autowrap' eats \n in certain conditions
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--- Comment #2 from Marcel van der Boom  2012-12-20 13:25:35 ---
Video upload failed, it's here: http://flic.kr/p/dCz2Mk

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From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Thu Dec 20 16:34:54 2012
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:34:54 -0500
Subject: [Users] Question about SMTP servers?
In-Reply-To: <20121220071952.25c62b7c@havleik.no>
References: <20121218154050.54f43cff@havleik.no>
	<20121218214735.000027d0@unknown>
	<20121219102039.1e98bc1c@havleik.no>
	<20121219100717.00006590@unknown>
	<20121219234229.3c86fe99@havleik.no>
	<20121219201121.000069eb@unknown>
	<20121220071952.25c62b7c@havleik.no>
Message-ID: <20121220103454.00001bc9@unknown>

On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 07:19:52 +0100
Bjørn T Johansen <btj at havleik.no> wrote:

> As I said, using my solution works fine... :) I am not using ISP SMTP
> server, but both the internal and external SMTP servers are mine...

Ah-hah! It was not clear to me that both SMTP servers were your own.
This, as they say, changes everything.

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 08:10:19 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:10:19 +0000
Subject: [Users] Unhiding messages
In-Reply-To: <20121218181544.396e1474.itz@buug.org>
References: <20121218181544.396e1474.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20121221071019.6fe37b2a@thewildbeast>

On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 18:15:44 -0800
Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote: 

> I have defined a processing rule that lowers the score of some
> messages, and a post-processing rule that hides all messages with a
> negative score.  This works well - too well, because I can't see
> any way to unhide them, so they're as good as gone WRT claws.  How
> can I unhide the hidden messages?

Disable the processing rule that hides them.

with regards

Paul


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but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 08:40:07 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:40:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2842] Use geoiplookup & geoiplookup6
In-Reply-To: <bug-2842-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2842-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 08:42:17 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:42:17 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2841] Blank message for vCalendar messages
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 08:42:58 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:42:58 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2840] Frame-less globe button
In-Reply-To: <bug-2840-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 08:45:41 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:45:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2809] Save QuickSearch Search Rules
In-Reply-To: <bug-2809-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 08:46:54 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:46:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2782] [security] vCalendar: status tray should display
 "Fetching: <folder>" vs "Fetching: <url>"
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 08:48:34 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:48:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2757] Implement scan_required for maildir++ plugin
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 08:49:38 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:49:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2734] capture stdin in python plugin console
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 08:50:13 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:50:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2707] crash in vcalendar / event_get_from_xml
In-Reply-To: <bug-2707-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2707-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 08:50:48 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:50:48 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2701] vCalendar timezone and display
In-Reply-To: <bug-2701-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2701-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 08:51:50 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:51:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2651] spamreport 0.3.15,
 can additional locations be added to report spam to?
In-Reply-To: <bug-2651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2651-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 08:52:34 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:52:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2554] Support libchamplain 0.10 and above in the
 geolocation plugin
In-Reply-To: <bug-2554-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 08:53:13 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:53:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2546] Recurring event in the vcalendar plugin makes
 claws mail start extremely slowly
In-Reply-To: <bug-2546-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 08:54:16 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:54:16 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2340] Create block list
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 08:54:53 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:54:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2328] vCalendar plugin do not work properly with
 events that spans on days
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 08:55:33 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:55:33 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2304] QA warning of compiler in vcalendar plugin
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 08:56:30 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:56:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2267] Perl filter needs a few more functions
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 08:57:41 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:57:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2251] req: add write support for Google Calendar
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 08:58:51 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:58:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2171] Attachment removal enhancements (att-removal
	plugin)
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 08:59:23 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:59:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2170] Attachment removal doesn't work well inside
	search
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:00:00 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2166] Automatic per-recipient usage of PGP/MIME
	extension
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 09:00:40 2012
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:00:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1837] wishlist: improve vCalendar
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 09:01:13 2012
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:01:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1769] vCalendar timezone glitches
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 09:49:39 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:49:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2749] maildir_scan_tree in Maildir++ creates duplicates
In-Reply-To: <bug-2749-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 09:50:51 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:50:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2714] Configuration - Preferences - fonts goes back to
	default
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no response for 3 months, closing now...

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 10:01:31 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:01:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2495] Return receipts are always sent from default
	account
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 10:02:14 2012
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:02:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2628] lots of vcal_folder logs
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 10:10:43 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:10:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2756] Inconsistency in Saving Attachments
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 10:13:02 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:13:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2755] Actual Vs displayed selection inconsistency in
 New Folder while moving mails
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 21 14:28:09 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:28:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2844] New: GeoLocation plugin is crashing many times
Message-ID: <bug-2844-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2844

            Bug ID: 2844
           Summary: GeoLocation plugin is crashing many times
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/GeoLocation
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: khazarian at fastmail.in

May anyone confirm the statement above?

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From edwardp at linuxmail.org  Fri Dec 21 17:16:43 2012
From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:16:43 -0500
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail PPA - Debian
Message-ID: <20121221111643.7c3deb2b@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>

Some months back, I asked on the list, whether the Claws Mail PPA also
worked with Debian (as both Ubuntu and Debian use Debian's packaging
system.)

Has anyone since tried this on Debian to see if it does in fact, work?

When Debian 7 (Wheezy) is released, it looks like it will include
version 3.8.1, which still would not be the latest version of Claws.

Thanks.


From mailinglists at gusnan.se  Fri Dec 21 17:23:09 2012
From: mailinglists at gusnan.se (Andreas =?UTF-8?B?UsO2bm5xdWlzdA==?=)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:23:09 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail PPA - Debian
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:16:43 -0500,
edwardp at linuxmail.org<edwardp at linuxmail.org> wrote:

>Some months back, I asked on the list, whether the Claws Mail PPA also
>worked with Debian (as both Ubuntu and Debian use Debian's packaging
>system.)
>
>Has anyone since tried this on Debian to see if it does in fact, work?
>
>When Debian 7 (Wheezy) is released, it looks like it will include
>version 3.8.1, which still would not be the latest version of Claws.
>

PPAs are not supported on Debian, its entirely an Ubuntu thing.
However, Richardo Mones has already packaged 3.9.0 in experimental as
visible here:

http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=claws-mail

There might be a backport to wheezy when it is released as the next
stable, but for now it will work fine using the version
packaged in experimental on wheezy.

-- Andreas Rönnquist
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From boudiccas at talktalk.net  Fri Dec 21 17:35:07 2012
From: boudiccas at talktalk.net (Sharon Kimble)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:35:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail PPA - Debian
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:16:43 -0500
<edwardp at linuxmail.org> wrote:

> Some months back, I asked on the list, whether the Claws Mail PPA also
> worked with Debian (as both Ubuntu and Debian use Debian's packaging
> system.)
> 
> Has anyone since tried this on Debian to see if it does in fact, work?
> 
> When Debian 7 (Wheezy) is released, it looks like it will include
> version 3.8.1, which still would not be the latest version of Claws.
> 
I'm using wheezy now, and CM 3.9.0 from experimental with no
problems. Ricardo has said that it will be included in backports once
wheezy is stable.

Sharon.
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From edwardp at linuxmail.org  Fri Dec 21 17:35:11 2012
From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:35:11 -0500
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail PPA - Debian
In-Reply-To: <20121221172309.33a3932b@debian.localdomain>
References: <20121221111643.7c3deb2b@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121221172309.33a3932b@debian.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20121221113511.23cb175c@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>

On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:23:09 +0100
Andreas Rönnquist <mailinglists at gusnan.se> wrote:

> PPAs are not supported on Debian, its entirely an Ubuntu thing.
> However, Richardo Mones has already packaged 3.9.0 in experimental as
> visible here:
> 
> http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=claws-mail
> 
> There might be a backport to wheezy when it is released as the next
> stable, but for now it will work fine using the version
> packaged in experimental on wheezy.

I still run Squeeze but I added squeeze-backports yesterday, just to see
what was in it, nothing I could use, but noticed Claws wasn't
available.  Guess I'll have to wait for Wheezy to be released. 

Thanks for the reply.


From edwardp at linuxmail.org  Fri Dec 21 17:49:58 2012
From: edwardp at linuxmail.org (edwardp at linuxmail.org)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:49:58 -0500
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail PPA - Debian
In-Reply-To: <20121221163507.7d1c2104@London.dlink.com>
References: <20121221111643.7c3deb2b@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121221163507.7d1c2104@London.dlink.com>
Message-ID: <20121221114958.7b85969b@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>

On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:35:07 +0000
Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote:

> I'm using wheezy now, and CM 3.9.0 from experimental with no
> problems. Ricardo has said that it will be included in backports once
> wheezy is stable.

I tried to install Wheezy on this hardware, but as the install image
defaults to using the 686 kernel, the image would not boot on this CPU,
it needs the 486 kernel from Wheezy.  So I'd still have to wait
until Wheezy comes out, then do an online upgrade, to use a newer
Claws.  


From claws at slashproc.org  Sat Dec 22 02:36:56 2012
From: claws at slashproc.org (Manfred Schmitt)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 02:36:56 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail PPA - Debian
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References: <20121221111643.7c3deb2b@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121221172309.33a3932b@debian.localdomain>
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Message-ID: <20121222023656.6a3266e2@mobil.bassdart.dyndns.org>

edwardp at linuxmail.org wrote:
> 
> I still run Squeeze but I added squeeze-backports yesterday, just to see
> what was in it, nothing I could use, but noticed Claws wasn't
> available.  Guess I'll have to wait for Wheezy to be released. 
> 
You could use my repository (only i386):
http://slashproc.org/debian/dists/squeeze/

Or build Claws yourself, it's not that complicated:

Install what's needed to build Debian Packages:
apt-get install build-essential

Put the deb-src for experimental in your sources.list:
deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main

Experimental is only needed for 3.9.0. Usually I build Claws from testing 
but I wanted the long awaited IMAP-Search -- which works fine btw :-)

Update the package-list:
apt-get update

Then, under a non-root-account:
apt-get source claws-mail
cd claws-mail-3.9.0
dpkg-checkbuilddeps

Install (obviously as root) all packages mentioned by dpkg-checkbuilddeps 
and after that compile claws-mail (again as user):
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc

If you want to use some of the Extra-Plugins install the just compiled 
libclaws-mail-dev:
cd ../
dpkg -i libclaws-mail-dev_3.9.0-1_i386.deb 

After that download the Extra-Plugins: 
apt-get source claws-mail-extra-plugins

Again, check if all Build-Depends are installed:
cd claws-mail-extra-plugins-3.9.0
dpkg-checkbuilddeps

This will also list libwebkitgtk-dev which isn't available in stable, it's 
called libwebkit-dev there and so you need to change libwebkitgtk-dev in 
debian/control to libwebkit-dev.
Now the Extra-Plugins should also compile: 
cd ../
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc.

Copy, move or symlink all the packages that you want to install to another 
folder and install the debs with dpkg -i *.deb. If dpkg complains about 
needed packages install those with apt-get -f install.
Or setup a local repository and install as usual with your preferred package
manager.

To build proper packages one would also add a Changelog-Entry and adjust the 
Debian version but for packages only used on a local machine that's afaik not 
really needed.

Bye,
Manne


From itz at buug.org  Sat Dec 22 04:13:14 2012
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:13:14 -0800
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail PPA - Debian
In-Reply-To: <20121222023656.6a3266e2@mobil.bassdart.dyndns.org>
References: <20121221111643.7c3deb2b@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121221172309.33a3932b@debian.localdomain>
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	<20121222023656.6a3266e2@mobil.bassdart.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <20121221191314.316f7bf2.itz@buug.org>

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 02:36:56 +0100
Manfred Schmitt <claws at slashproc.org> wrote:

Manfred> dpkg-checkbuilddeps

So, which are the build dependencies that are not in wheezy?

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From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Sat Dec 22 05:41:38 2012
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 23:41:38 -0500
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail PPA - Debian
In-Reply-To: <20121221191314.316f7bf2.itz@buug.org>
References: <20121221111643.7c3deb2b@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121221172309.33a3932b@debian.localdomain>
	<20121221113511.23cb175c@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121222023656.6a3266e2@mobil.bassdart.dyndns.org>
	<20121221191314.316f7bf2.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20121221234138.000050ef@unknown>

On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:13:14 -0800
Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:
 
> So, which are the build dependencies that are not in wheezy?

None. All of the required and optional components and libraries are in
Debian Squeeze and Wheezy.

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From boudiccas at talktalk.net  Sat Dec 22 11:56:44 2012
From: boudiccas at talktalk.net (Sharon Kimble)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:56:44 +0000
Subject: [Users] Errant rss feeds.
Message-ID: <20121222105644.7f573b10@London.dlink.com>

I have a feed which I've used for a long time which has very recently
started to update everything every day marking it as 'unread', without
fail. It only has 17 posts so its not a big one, and the feed url is
http://deblogian.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default 

How can I stop its daily update when it updates *everything*, even a
post from last year and marks it as 'unread', please?

Thanks
Sharon.
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From itz at buug.org  Sat Dec 22 19:55:42 2012
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:55:42 -0800
Subject: [Users] Errant rss feeds.
In-Reply-To: <20121222105644.7f573b10@London.dlink.com>
References: <20121222105644.7f573b10@London.dlink.com>
Message-ID: <20121222105542.2e4c0eff.itz@buug.org>

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:56:44 +0000
Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote:

Sharon> I have a feed which I've used for a long time which has very
Sharon> recently started to update everything every day marking it as
Sharon> 'unread', without fail. It only has 17 posts so its not a big
Sharon> one, and the feed url is

Sharon> http://deblogian.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default

Sharon> How can I stop its daily update when it updates *everything*,
Sharon> even a post from last year and marks it as 'unread', please?

I bet this is a misconfiguration on the server side.

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From carsato1 at yahoo.es  Sun Dec 23 08:58:11 2012
From: carsato1 at yahoo.es (Carles)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 08:58:11 +0100
Subject: [Users] programatically create a tag and set the message with it -
 evernote style - @info #claws-mail #programming
Message-ID: <20121223085811.287b236b@tofu>

Hello List

  I know how to call a menu entry to do some stuff using python.

  I need to create a tag depending on a message subject. 

  I would need to, depending on subject, tag the message and move it
  to some folder. For example, this message has "@info #claws-mail
  #programming" in subject. What I need is to tag it with "claws-mail"
  and "programming" (creating it previously if tag doesn't exist) and
  move it to "info" folder (creating it if that folder doesn't exist).

  With this "simple" change we can have an open source Evernote clone
  note system using claws mail, which lot of people use.

Thank you.
Best regards.
  


From carsato1 at yahoo.es  Sun Dec 23 09:32:52 2012
From: carsato1 at yahoo.es (Carles)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 09:32:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] programatically create a tag and set the message with
 it - evernote style - @info #claws-mail #programming
In-Reply-To: <20121223085811.287b236b@tofu>
References: <20121223085811.287b236b@tofu>
Message-ID: <20121223093252.3e876632@tofu>

I mean I would need some help to program it because I don't know how to
do it exactly. Maybe it's possble to make a plugin.  

 I'm not able to find documentation on how to program thing using
 python or creating plugins, Could you point me to some link to it?

Thank you! :)

El Sun, 23 Dec 2012 08:58:11 +0100
> Hello List
> 
>   I know how to call a menu entry to do some stuff using python.
> 
>   I need to create a tag depending on a message subject. 
> 
>   I would need to, depending on subject, tag the message and move it
>   to some folder. For example, this message has "@info #claws-mail
>   #programming" in subject. What I need is to tag it with "claws-mail"
>   and "programming" (creating it previously if tag doesn't exist) and
>   move it to "info" folder (creating it if that folder doesn't exist).
> 
>   With this "simple" change we can have an open source Evernote clone
>   note system using claws mail, which lot of people use.
> 
> Thank you.
> Best regards.
>   
> _______________________________________________
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> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 23 10:09:49 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 09:09:49 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2767] Show image attachments in the document
In-Reply-To: <bug-2767-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2767-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2767-595-1oGuH6PASM@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2767

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 23 10:10:12 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 09:10:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2767] Show image attachments in the document
In-Reply-To: <bug-2767-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2767-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2767-595-AaLBRc2mky@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

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I think I have this problem too (I wanted to name it: Image is not displayed
inline).

Message in question:
http://lists.savoirfairelinux.net/pipermail/sflphone/2012-October/001226.html

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 23 10:13:30 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 09:13:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2767] Show image attachments in the document
In-Reply-To: <bug-2767-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2767-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2767-595-I8ENG45AQx@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2767

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[Sorry for double post] Even when Fancy is disabled the image is not displayed
inline.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 23 10:38:34 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 09:38:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2845] New: error when reciving a new email - in
	bsfilterw.exe
Message-ID: <bug-2845-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2845

            Bug ID: 2845
           Summary: error when reciving a new email - in bsfilterw.exe
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.9.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows XP
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: amalawi at gmail.com

when a new message arrives, I get the exception attached. I guess it is due to
an escaping problem. my name is Ala'a, and that single apostrophe maybe the
source of the error when trying 

The version from the 'About' dialog box is: 3.9.0cvs12

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 23 10:40:12 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 09:40:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2845] error when reciving a new email - in
	bsfilterw.exe
In-Reply-To: <bug-2845-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2845-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2845-595-X4WvbT6czN@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2845

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 23 12:27:37 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 11:27:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2846] New: Add a bring-forward functionality for mails
Message-ID: <bug-2846-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2846

            Bug ID: 2846
           Summary: Add a bring-forward functionality for mails
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: other
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Compose Window
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: fauli at gentoo.org

Sometimes it is handy to be reminded of a sent mail.  So a field in the compose
window which reads something along "answer expected until: <date> <time>" and a
copy of this mail which is specially marked in the inbox on said date.

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From ricardo at mones.org  Sun Dec 23 13:48:46 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:48:46 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail PPA - Debian
In-Reply-To: <20121221163507.7d1c2104@London.dlink.com>
References: <20121221111643.7c3deb2b@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121221163507.7d1c2104@London.dlink.com>
Message-ID: <20121223134846.735f6e4b@busgosu>

On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:35:07 +0000
Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:16:43 -0500
> <edwardp at linuxmail.org> wrote:
> 
> > Some months back, I asked on the list, whether the Claws Mail PPA also
> > worked with Debian (as both Ubuntu and Debian use Debian's packaging
> > system.)
> > 
> > Has anyone since tried this on Debian to see if it does in fact, work?
> > 
> > When Debian 7 (Wheezy) is released, it looks like it will include
> > version 3.8.1, which still would not be the latest version of Claws.
> >   
> I'm using wheezy now, and CM 3.9.0 from experimental with no
> problems.

  There should not be, as all dependencies are in wheezy/sid. The only
  reason it's not in unstable is that it wouldn't be allowed to migrate to
  testing because of the release freeze.

> Ricardo has said that it will be included in backports once wheezy is
> stable.

  Well... :) I said I would _try_ to do that myself, but my time is limited,
  and I cannot guarantee I can do it. So backporters to help with this task
  are welcome more than ever! Anyone? ;)
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 23 13:58:23 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:58:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2846] Add a bring-forward functionality for mails
In-Reply-To: <bug-2846-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2846-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2846-595-hQpi6L8lSf@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2846

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Maybe you can add an X-Answer-Before (or whatever you want to name it) header
with that info. The message view could be set to display that header and it
could also be used in filters or quicksearch expressions in the sent folder...

I guess it's not the same as a dedicated field but I think it would cover most
of the functionality you're describing.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 23 13:59:21 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:59:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2847] New: Incompatibility between Windows and Debian
 signatures
Message-ID: <bug-2847-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2847

            Bug ID: 2847
           Summary: Incompatibility between Windows and Debian signatures
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.9.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows XP
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Compose Window
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: bob at blisworthhouse.co.uk

This may be my ineptitude rather than a bug.

I want to use Claws on Windows and Debian, using the same configuration folder.

On Windows (XP and 7) I start claws with option
 --alternate-config-dir "z:\claws\config"
On Debian 
  --alternate-config-dir /mnt/Z/claws/config
where the two directories are the same.

But for the life of me I can't get the same signature filename, e.g.
bobsig.txt, to work in both operating systems (using Preference/Compose.) If
there is just the filename then the file's contents don't get inserted. And of
course if I set up the full filename including full path then it only works
with the corresponding operating system.

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From boudiccas at talktalk.net  Sun Dec 23 14:46:36 2012
From: boudiccas at talktalk.net (Sharon Kimble)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:46:36 +0000
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail PPA - Debian
In-Reply-To: <20121223134846.735f6e4b@busgosu>
References: <20121221111643.7c3deb2b@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121221163507.7d1c2104@London.dlink.com>
	<20121223134846.735f6e4b@busgosu>
Message-ID: <20121223134636.2ef5c316@London.dlink.com>

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:48:46 +0100
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:35:07 +0000
> Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote:

> 
> > Ricardo has said that it will be included in backports once wheezy
> > is stable.
> 
>   Well... :) I said I would _try_ to do that myself, but my time is
> limited, and I cannot guarantee I can do it. So backporters to help
> with this task are welcome more than ever! Anyone? ;)


I don’t understand, isn't it a simple job of just uploading it to the
backports repo, as it already works with wheezy?

Sharon.
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Registered Linux user 334501 


From berndth at gmx.de  Sun Dec 23 16:16:04 2012
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:16:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] programatically create a tag and set the message with
 it - evernote style - @info #claws-mail #programming
In-Reply-To: <20121223093252.3e876632@tofu>
References: <20121223085811.287b236b@tofu>
	<20121223093252.3e876632@tofu>
Message-ID: <20121223161604.543bc9de@wodan>

On So, 23.12.2012 09:32, Carles wrote:

>I mean I would need some help to program it because I don't know how to
>do it exactly. Maybe it's possble to make a plugin.  
>
> I'm not able to find documentation on how to program thing using
> python or creating plugins, Could you point me to some link to it?

There's no documentation for creating plugins except the source code of
other plugins and Claws Mail itself.

As for your request, I think it depends on how you want your automation
to work. If you want it to work during filtering, you could have a look
at the perl plugin. It can create folders during the filtering process,
bunt it predates tags in Claws Mail, and doesn't (yet) have support for
those.

If you're aiming for some other kind of automation, the Python plugin
can indeed be an option. However, the sitation there is somewhat
similar: It can also create folders, but doesn't (yet) have support for
tags (this time mainly because I don't use tags, and the plugin is
extended on a "as-needed" basis).

Holger


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 23 16:40:08 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 15:40:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2844] GeoLocation plugin is crashing many times
In-Reply-To: <bug-2844-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2844-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2844-595-mmCY54PP3D@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2844

Holger Berndt <hb at claws-mail.org> changed:

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I can't, and the bug tracker is not a discussion forum. Please re-open if you
have more information, like a way to reproduce. Stacktraces could also be
helpful, see http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Debugging_Claws

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 23 16:54:07 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 15:54:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2841] Toggling off map view goes to first message part,
 not previously selected message part
In-Reply-To: <bug-2841-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2841-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2841-595-4rQlM2dxCp@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2841

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            Summary|Blank message for vCalendar |Toggling off map view goes
                   |messages                    |to first message part, not
                   |                            |previously selected message
                   |                            |part

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From mailinglists at gusnan.se  Sun Dec 23 17:26:20 2012
From: mailinglists at gusnan.se (Andreas =?UTF-8?B?UsO2bm5xdWlzdA==?=)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:26:20 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail PPA - Debian
In-Reply-To: <20121223134846.735f6e4b@busgosu>
References: <20121221111643.7c3deb2b@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121221163507.7d1c2104@London.dlink.com>
	<20121223134846.735f6e4b@busgosu>
Message-ID: <20121223172620.28fc2e07@debian.localdomain>

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:48:46 +0100,
Ricardo Mones<ricardo at mones.org> wrote:

>On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:35:07 +0000
>Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:16:43 -0500
>> <edwardp at linuxmail.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm using wheezy now, and CM 3.9.0 from experimental with no
>> problems.
>
>  There should not be, as all dependencies are in wheezy/sid. The only
>  reason it's not in unstable is that it wouldn't be allowed to
> migrate to testing because of the release freeze.
>
>> Ricardo has said that it will be included in backports once wheezy is
>> stable.
>
>  Well... :) I said I would _try_ to do that myself, but my time is
> limited, and I cannot guarantee I can do it. So backporters to help
> with this task are welcome more than ever! Anyone? ;)

I might just be able to help with this - I use Debian Stable and also I
am actually a Debian maintainer already, so the packaging business isn't
new to me. I won't promise anything just yet, but it sounds like it
might be a good idea. I have some time to think about it before Wheezy
is released, right? :)

Merry Christmas!
-- Andreas Rönnquist
mailinglists at gusnan.se
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 23 17:37:25 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:37:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2844] GeoLocation plugin is crashing many times
In-Reply-To: <bug-2844-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2844-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2844-595-t7qtRk4Wi2@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2844

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Thank you for the link.  I will debug it once libchamplain is available for
Slackware 14.0 or Salix OS 14.0 and crash will persist.

Most of the times, when I play with the map using the scroll wheel or just
dragging it, it would cause to Claws to crash.

Claws Mail 3.8.1, OS: Salix OS 13.37.

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From ricardo at mones.org  Mon Dec 24 01:44:07 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 01:44:07 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail PPA - Debian
In-Reply-To: <20121223134636.2ef5c316@London.dlink.com>
References: <20121221111643.7c3deb2b@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:46:36 +0000
Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:48:46 +0100
> Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:35:07 +0000
> > Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > > Ricardo has said that it will be included in backports once wheezy
> > > is stable.
> > 
> >   Well... :) I said I would _try_ to do that myself, but my time is
> > limited, and I cannot guarantee I can do it. So backporters to help
> > with this task are welcome more than ever! Anyone? ;)
> 
> 
> I don’t understand, isn't it a simple job of just uploading it to the
> backports repo, as it already works with wheezy?

  It could be that simple at the beginning, yes, but as new versions are
  released and the development of sid continues towards next stable the
  dependencies tend to diverge. New ones appear, others get removed, and you
  may have to maintain other backported packages so the main package can be
  installed in a stable+backports system. And of course you have to maintain
  systems to be able to build all those packages. In fact it's still simple,
  but as it evolves, it just requires more and more time.
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  Impatience, and Hubris.                                    man perl

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From ricardo at mones.org  Mon Dec 24 01:52:14 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 01:52:14 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail PPA - Debian
In-Reply-To: <20121223172620.28fc2e07@debian.localdomain>
References: <20121221111643.7c3deb2b@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
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	<20121223172620.28fc2e07@debian.localdomain>
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:26:20 +0100
Andreas Rönnquist <mailinglists at gusnan.se> wrote:

> I might just be able to help with this - I use Debian Stable and also I
> am actually a Debian maintainer already, so the packaging business isn't
> new to me. I won't promise anything just yet, but it sounds like it
> might be a good idea. I have some time to think about it before Wheezy
> is released, right? :)

  That would be great! Thanks in advance! :)
  You also know where to find me if you need some help, so don't hesitate ;)
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  00:46 <@Ticho> um, yes                            Seen on #sylpheed

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec 24 13:43:13 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 12:43:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2847] Incompatibility between Windows and Debian
	signatures
In-Reply-To: <bug-2847-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2847-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2847-595-4eAQImNa3n@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2847

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--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
> This may be my ineptitude rather than a bug.

Neither the first nor the second ;)

> I want to use Claws on Windows and Debian, using the same configuration folder.

This feature, OS-independency of the configuration files, is not supported, so
I'm turning this into an enhancement request.

There's ways to workaround this, for example turning your accountrc into a kind
of accountrc.template where the signature path is set to some TOKEN, and a
wrapper script (one per OS) takes care of filtering the template replacing the
TOKEN and writing the result into the actual accountrc (a sed one-liner can do
it), and then invokes claws-mail binary with the --alternate-config-dir option.

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From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Mon Dec 24 15:40:33 2012
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 09:40:33 -0500
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2847] Incompatibility between Windows and Debian
 signatures
In-Reply-To: <bug-2847-595-4eAQImNa3n@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2847-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
	<bug-2847-595-4eAQImNa3n@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20121224094033.00007892@unknown>

On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 12:43:13 +0000
noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:

> This feature, OS-independency of the configuration files, is not
> supported, so I'm turning this into an enhancement request.

It's made trickier by the non-uniform plugin libraries. Fancy and
Bogofilter aren't available for CM for Windows. This won't break CM, in
my experience, but it does mean inconsistent behavior despite using the
same configuration.

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From boudiccas at talktalk.net  Mon Dec 24 18:49:31 2012
From: boudiccas at talktalk.net (Sharon Kimble)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:49:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] Spell Checking in Claws Mail
In-Reply-To: <20121211181642.3793ee4d@london.dlink.com>
References: <20121211181642.3793ee4d@london.dlink.com>
Message-ID: <20121224174931.4ae807ef@London.dlink.com>

This seems to have been solved by me getting a new monitor today, I've
now got colour in everything!

Happy Christmas
Sharon.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:16:42 +0000
Sharon Kimble <boudiccas at talktalk.net> wrote:

> 
> I have a major problem with spell checking within Claws Mail.
> I've asked in the freenode #claws channel on IRC but
> have been unable to get it working properly. I have spell checking
> configured properly in Configuration/Preferences/Compose/Spell
> Checking, with the coloured box set to 'red'. But, I don’t see any
> colours at all in claws mail, its purely monochromatic. I have all
> boxes ticked in the spell checking configuration page, with 'en-ca'
> being my alternative dictionary, but I still don’t have any visible
> way of seeing misspelled words. 
> 
> Well, spell checking manually of each "next misspelt word" is working
> in 'en-GB', just I don’t see any coloured, misspelt words, nor
> squiggly lines underneath misspellings, I'm using  Claws Mail 3.9.0
> (GTK+ 2.24.10; i486-pc-linux-gnu).
> 
> Can anyone advise me please as to how to get it visibly working?
> 
> Thanks
> Sharon.



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From itz at buug.org  Mon Dec 24 19:04:53 2012
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 10:04:53 -0800
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail PPA - Debian
In-Reply-To: <20121224015214.4d4d5663@busgosu>
References: <20121221111643.7c3deb2b@debianbg.hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
	<20121221163507.7d1c2104@London.dlink.com>
	<20121223134846.735f6e4b@busgosu>
	<20121223172620.28fc2e07@debian.localdomain>
	<20121224015214.4d4d5663@busgosu>
Message-ID: <20121224100453.4b55784c.itz@buug.org>

I may be able to help, too.  If needed.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 25 14:22:28 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 13:22:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2847] Incompatibility between Windows and Debian
	signatures
In-Reply-To: <bug-2847-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2847-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2847-595-m5Ojx6JvJz@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2847

--- Comment #2 from Bob Daniel <bob at blisworthhouse.co.uk> ---
Thank you.
Should the workaround work around (sorry!) if a second person starts Claws on a
different OS?  Then accountrc would be changed, and I wouldn't expect the
signature to work. But it does appear to work. So I am confused. I suppose
accountrc is read just once?

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From 1 at VictoriasJourney.com  Tue Dec 25 18:58:18 2012
From: 1 at VictoriasJourney.com (Victoria S.)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 09:58:18 -0800
Subject: [Users] Filtering windows problem (cannot close)
Message-ID: <20121225095818.212b5079@victoria>

Often when I am editing or creating a Filter, and I make a mistake, the Filtering window / dialog windows will not respond, so I have to (Linux System Monitor) kill Claws and restart the program. 

There's no other way to close these windows, as the Cancel, etc. buttons do not work.

Suggestions?  Thanks ...

 ===============================================================


From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Tue Dec 25 23:35:42 2012
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:35:42 -0500
Subject: [Users] Filtering windows problem (cannot close)
In-Reply-To: <20121225095818.212b5079@victoria>
References: <20121225095818.212b5079@victoria>
Message-ID: <20121225173542.00004652@unknown>

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 09:58:18 -0800
"Victoria S." <1 at VictoriasJourney.com> wrote:

> Often when I am editing or creating a Filter, and I make a mistake,
> the Filtering window / dialog windows will not respond, so I have to
> (Linux System Monitor) kill Claws and restart the program. 

There's probably a settings window hidden behind the main window.
That's what's blocking the UI. Use Alt-Tab (typically) to cycle that
window forward or try to pick it from the task bar if your desktop
environment uses one. This happens on Macintosh (CM compiled for
XQuartz). I'm not sure if this is a Claws bug or an Xorg bug.

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From 1 at VictoriasJourney.com  Wed Dec 26 00:20:29 2012
From: 1 at VictoriasJourney.com (Victoria S.)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 15:20:29 -0800
Subject: [Users] Filtering windows problem (cannot close)
In-Reply-To: <20121225173542.00004652@unknown>
References: <20121225095818.212b5079@victoria>
	<20121225173542.00004652@unknown>
Message-ID: <20121225152029.1f3624fc@victoria>

Thank you for that reply, but (in my case: Ubuntu), there is no background window present.


 ===============================================================

----- Original Message(s): -----
Date: 2012 Dec 25 (Tue) 17:35
From: Rich Pieri <richard.pieri at gmail.com>
To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [Users] Filtering windows problem (cannot close)

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 09:58:18 -0800
"Victoria S." <1 at VictoriasJourney.com> wrote:

> Often when I am editing or creating a Filter, and I make a mistake,
> the Filtering window / dialog windows will not respond, so I have to
> (Linux System Monitor) kill Claws and restart the program. 

There's probably a settings window hidden behind the main window.
That's what's blocking the UI. Use Alt-Tab (typically) to cycle that
window forward or try to pick it from the task bar if your desktop
environment uses one. This happens on Macintosh (CM compiled for
XQuartz). I'm not sure if this is a Claws bug or an Xorg bug.

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From richard.pieri at gmail.com  Wed Dec 26 01:31:34 2012
From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 19:31:34 -0500
Subject: [Users] Filtering windows problem (cannot close)
In-Reply-To: <20121225152029.1f3624fc@victoria>
References: <20121225095818.212b5079@victoria>
	<20121225173542.00004652@unknown>
	<20121225152029.1f3624fc@victoria>
Message-ID: <20121225193134.00006d07@unknown>

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 15:20:29 -0800
"Victoria S." <1 at VictoriasJourney.com> wrote:

> Thank you for that reply, but (in my case: Ubuntu), there is no
> background window present.

When I edit filters I first open up the Filtering window. Then I do
whatever edits I need to make which opens another window above the
Filtering window. If the Filtering window gets pushed beneath the main
Claws window, or if the main Claws window is raised above it, then the
UI will block upon closing the edits window.

The same thing happens when CM creates other inferior windows like the
Edit accounts window and the error notification window. The main UI
blocks while the inferior windows are open. Look for these windows the
next time it happens. Ubuntu's notification mechanism doesn't play nice
with CM so check there, too.

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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Wed Dec 26 04:51:16 2012
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 22:51:16 -0500
Subject: [Users] Filtering windows problem (cannot close)
In-Reply-To: <20121225173542.00004652@unknown>
References: <20121225095818.212b5079@victoria>
	<20121225173542.00004652@unknown>
Message-ID: <20121225225116.5bd51630@mydesk>

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:35:42 -0500, Rich Pieri said:
> On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 09:58:18 -0800
> "Victoria S." <1 at VictoriasJourney.com> wrote:
> 
> > Often when I am editing or creating a Filter, and I make a mistake,
> > the Filtering window / dialog windows will not respond, so I have to
> > (Linux System Monitor) kill Claws and restart the program. 
> 
> There's probably a settings window hidden behind the main window.
> That's what's blocking the UI. Use Alt-Tab (typically) to cycle that
> window forward or try to pick it from the task bar if your desktop
> environment uses one. This happens on Macintosh (CM compiled for
> XQuartz). I'm not sure if this is a Claws bug or an Xorg bug.

Stuff like that happens to me on Ubuntu 11.10 Linux all the time. It's
especially annoying on the Quick Search search construction window,
which if you do it slightly wrong, gives you an error message box with
an OK that clicking does nothing to.

SteveT


From 1 at VictoriasJourney.com  Wed Dec 26 08:29:07 2012
From: 1 at VictoriasJourney.com (Victoria S.)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 23:29:07 -0800
Subject: [Users] Filtering windows problem (cannot close)
In-Reply-To: <20121225193134.00006d07@unknown>
References: <20121225095818.212b5079@victoria>
	<20121225173542.00004652@unknown>
	<20121225152029.1f3624fc@victoria>
	<20121225193134.00006d07@unknown>
Message-ID: <20121225232907.3196883c@victoria>

Again, this is not the problem.  I can minimize every window, Super-Window to see all windows on that desktop, etc.  When this issue arises (often), the only way to get rid of them is kill Claws mail, then restart CM.

 ===============================================================

----- Original Message(s): -----
Date: 2012 Dec 25 (Tue) 19:31
From: Rich Pieri <richard.pieri at gmail.com>
To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [Users] Filtering windows problem (cannot close)

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 15:20:29 -0800
"Victoria S." <1 at VictoriasJourney.com> wrote:

> Thank you for that reply, but (in my case: Ubuntu), there is no
> background window present.

When I edit filters I first open up the Filtering window. Then I do
whatever edits I need to make which opens another window above the
Filtering window. If the Filtering window gets pushed beneath the main
Claws window, or if the main Claws window is raised above it, then the
UI will block upon closing the edits window.

The same thing happens when CM creates other inferior windows like the
Edit accounts window and the error notification window. The main UI
blocks while the inferior windows are open. Look for these windows the
next time it happens. Ubuntu's notification mechanism doesn't play nice
with CM so check there, too.

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From 1 at VictoriasJourney.com  Wed Dec 26 08:32:28 2012
From: 1 at VictoriasJourney.com (Victoria S.)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 23:32:28 -0800
Subject: [Users] Filtering windows problem (cannot close)
In-Reply-To: <20121225225116.5bd51630@mydesk>
References: <20121225095818.212b5079@victoria>
	<20121225173542.00004652@unknown> <20121225225116.5bd51630@mydesk>
Message-ID: <20121225233228.67a288b5@victoria>

This is exactly the behavior I am describing.  It has been an ongoing occurrence / annoyance for some months (probably since some CM update). 

 ===============================================================

----- Original Message(s): -----
Date: 2012 Dec 25 (Tue) 22:51
From: Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com>
To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [Users] Filtering windows problem (cannot close)

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:35:42 -0500, Rich Pieri said:
> On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 09:58:18 -0800
> "Victoria S." <1 at VictoriasJourney.com> wrote:
> 
> > Often when I am editing or creating a Filter, and I make a mistake,
> > the Filtering window / dialog windows will not respond, so I have to
> > (Linux System Monitor) kill Claws and restart the program. 
> 
> There's probably a settings window hidden behind the main window.
> That's what's blocking the UI. Use Alt-Tab (typically) to cycle that
> window forward or try to pick it from the task bar if your desktop
> environment uses one. This happens on Macintosh (CM compiled for
> XQuartz). I'm not sure if this is a Claws bug or an Xorg bug.

Stuff like that happens to me on Ubuntu 11.10 Linux all the time. It's
especially annoying on the Quick Search search construction window,
which if you do it slightly wrong, gives you an error message box with
an OK that clicking does nothing to.

SteveT
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From kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com  Wed Dec 26 08:58:56 2012
From: kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com (Abhay S. Kushwaha)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:28:56 +0530
Subject: [Users] Filtering windows problem (cannot close)
In-Reply-To: <20121225233228.67a288b5@victoria>
References: <20121225095818.212b5079@victoria>
	<20121225173542.00004652@unknown> <20121225225116.5bd51630@mydesk>
	<20121225233228.67a288b5@victoria>
Message-ID: <20121226132856.2a7a5277@netsolutionsindia.com>

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 23:32:28 -0800, Victoria wrote:

> This is exactly the behavior I am describing.  It has been an
> ongoing occurrence / annoyance for some months (probably since some
> CM update).

3.9.0cvs10 might solve some of your & Steve's problems. You might
want to get the source and build (and provide feedback), or wait for
3.9.1 to check if your problems have been resolved.



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 26 12:22:17 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 11:22:17 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2199] Claws doesn't propery verify certification chain
In-Reply-To: <bug-2199-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2199-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2199-595-dDj90ZAxxp@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2199

--- Comment #11 from speed ion <karli888444 at gmail.com> ---
Hi. 3.7.8, libetpan 1.0-2.4
Please tell me what version of claws-mail, where this tiny bug fixed.

from https://github.com/dinhviethoa/libetpan/issues/17
"If what you want to do is get the full certificate chain so that clients can
investigate it however they wish, I believe you need to use SSL_set_verify() to
set a callback which will then have access to the complete chain."

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 26 14:50:17 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:50:17 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2199] Claws doesn't propery verify certification chain
In-Reply-To: <bug-2199-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2199-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2199-595-DccUPOHdvK@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2199

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

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--- Comment #12 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
> Hi. 3.7.8, libetpan 1.0-2.4
> Please tell me what version of claws-mail, where this tiny bug fixed.

None, both Claws Mail bug (this one) and LibEtPan issue are still open.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 26 15:05:22 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 14:05:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2847] Incompatibility between Windows and Debian
	signatures
In-Reply-To: <bug-2847-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2847-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2847-595-ptWsqoYEcx@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2847

--- Comment #3 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
If the workaround is set up as described it should work: _each_ OS has a script
to write a correct accountrc from the template before invoking, so when
claws-mail reads it it has the correct path on each OS.

The only drawback is when you alter the configuration of some account, you have
to re-create your template from the real accountrc with the modifications,
otherwise changes will be lost on next script invocation.

Or are you trying to do it with two instances of claws-mail, one per OS,
simultaneously? This can work by luck, until you access same files from both
instances. This is definitely neither supported, nor workaround-able.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 26 15:22:33 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 14:22:33 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2847] Incompatibility between Windows and Debian
	signatures
In-Reply-To: <bug-2847-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2847-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2847-595-Kxa977H8cE@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2847

--- Comment #4 from Bob Daniel <bob at blisworthhouse.co.uk> ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> If the workaround is set up as described it should work: _each_ OS has a
> script to write a correct accountrc from the template before invoking, so
> when claws-mail reads it it has the correct path on each OS.
> 
> The only drawback is when you alter the configuration of some account, you
> have to re-create your template from the real accountrc with the
> modifications, otherwise changes will be lost on next script invocation.
> 
> Or are you trying to do it with two instances of claws-mail, one per OS,
> simultaneously? This can work by luck, until you access same files from both
> instances. This is definitely neither supported, nor workaround-able.

Just two instances! Where is your ambition (!). Potentially 4 as there are 4 in
the family. The reason I moved from Awful Outlook was that one family member
never closed Outlook, so we were all locked out due to its monolithic PST file.

But we never read each others' email so I suspect we shall be OK. We have been
so far thanks to your suggested workaround.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 26 16:03:08 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 15:03:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2847] Incompatibility between Windows and Debian
	signatures
In-Reply-To: <bug-2847-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2847-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2847-595-YfRhJR8B0S@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2847

--- Comment #5 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
There's no limit on the number of instances, as long as each have it's own
configuration directory. But you are talking of same configuration files for
all of them, there's no need to do that, and that's what's not supported.

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From rsv869 at roadrunner.com  Thu Dec 27 05:01:40 2012
From: rsv869 at roadrunner.com (RSV-RR)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 23:01:40 -0500
Subject: [Users] a few questions from a new user
Message-ID: <20121226230140.1e0cdb83@rsv-linux>

Hello group -

I'm a new user considering converting to Claws and have a few qustions:


I see understand how to archive but haven't yet seen how to recover
from that archive.  


Is there a way to automate the archive process so it can be done
regularly?


How can mail be imported from other mail applications?  I see only a
import of one mbox folder at a time but the application currently
being used is Evolution, with lots of folders.


I'm sure there will be more but thanks.

Reid


From ricardo at mones.org  Thu Dec 27 09:59:33 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:59:33 +0100
Subject: [Users] a few questions from a new user
In-Reply-To: <20121226230140.1e0cdb83@rsv-linux>
References: <20121226230140.1e0cdb83@rsv-linux>
Message-ID: <20121227095933.53de8b50@busgosu>


  Hi,

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 23:01:40 -0500
RSV-RR <rsv869 at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> Hello group -
> 
> I'm a new user considering converting to Claws and have a few qustions:
> 
> 
> I see understand how to archive but haven't yet seen how to recover
> from that archive.  

  Archiving is done with standard methods, so standard tools can be used to
  unarchive them (bzip2, unzip, cpio, tar, etc.).

> 
> Is there a way to automate the archive process so it can be done
> regularly?

  Not that I know without resorting to external methods. From those
  questions seems you're confusing archive plugin with a backup plugin.
  It's not, but I guess it could be extended for that purpose.

> 
> How can mail be imported from other mail applications?  I see only a
> import of one mbox folder at a time but the application currently
> being used is Evolution, with lots of folders.

  You can have a look at the mailbox conversion section in the tools page:
  http://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php
 
> I'm sure there will be more but thanks.

  You're welcome. Don't forget to check the FAQ¹ and the manual² ;-)

  regards,
  
¹ http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Main_Page
² http://www.claws-mail.org/manual/claws-mail-manual.html
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  The world will end in 5 minutes. Please log out.            Unknown

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 27 10:18:36 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:18:36 +0000
Subject: [Users] Filtering windows problem (cannot close)
In-Reply-To: <20121225233228.67a288b5@victoria>
References: <20121225095818.212b5079@victoria>
	<20121225173542.00004652@unknown> <20121225225116.5bd51630@mydesk>
	<20121225233228.67a288b5@victoria>
Message-ID: <20121227091836.71bfdce8@thewildbeast>

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 23:32:28 -0800
"Victoria S." <1 at VictoriasJourney.com> wrote: 

> This is exactly the behavior I am describing.  It has been an
> ongoing occurrence / annoyance for some months (probably since some
> CM update). 

Do you use Unity? This seems to only occur when using Unity.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From lainecliff at gmail.com  Thu Dec 27 11:09:19 2012
From: lainecliff at gmail.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 10:09:19 +0000
Subject: [Users] Changing external application for images
Message-ID: <20121227100919.79fcd51c@mepis1>

Dear all

I was wondering if someone can tell me how to tell CM to open images in
mail with GIMP. In Configuration > Preferences > External programmes
there isn't an option for images.

Sorry if this is an obvious question. I've looked in the manual and
can't find what I need there either.

I was going to wish everyone a belated Happy Christmas from Santa Claws
but I dare say other people have thought of that before and wisely
decided not to do it :)

Cliff


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 27 11:17:13 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 10:17:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] Changing external application for images
In-Reply-To: <20121227100919.79fcd51c@mepis1>
References: <20121227100919.79fcd51c@mepis1>
Message-ID: <20121227101713.7c899cd6@thewildbeast>

On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 10:09:19 +0000
Cliff Laine <lainecliff at gmail.com> wrote: 

> I was wondering if someone can tell me how to tell CM to open
> images in mail with GIMP. In Configuration > Preferences > External
> programmes there isn't an option for images.
> 
> Sorry if this is an obvious question. I've looked in the manual and
> can't find what I need there either.

It's in the FAQ:
http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Installation_and_Configuration#How_can_I_select_different_applications_to_open_with_specific_MIME_types.3F

The answer is:

The MIME-type->application associations are kept in ~/.mailcap
and /etc/mailcap. 

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From colin at colino.net  Thu Dec 27 11:20:59 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 11:20:59 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing external application for images
In-Reply-To: <20121227101713.7c899cd6@thewildbeast>
References: <20121227100919.79fcd51c@mepis1>
	<20121227101713.7c899cd6@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20121227112059.255e05ab@colin>

On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 10:17:13 +0000, Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>
wrote:

> The MIME-type->application associations are kept in ~/.mailcap
> and /etc/mailcap. 

Also, if the attached image has a correct mimetype set (image/jpeg for
example, as opposed to application/octet-stream), when choosing "Open
with..." you'll have a "Remember this" checkbox that, if checked, will
make Claws Mail update your ~/.mailcap file so that the command you use
becomes the default one.

-- 
Colin


From 1 at VictoriasJourney.com  Thu Dec 27 13:49:54 2012
From: 1 at VictoriasJourney.com (Victoria S.)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 04:49:54 -0800
Subject: [Users] Filtering windows problem (cannot close)
In-Reply-To: <20121227091836.71bfdce8@thewildbeast>
References: <20121225095818.212b5079@victoria>
	<20121225173542.00004652@unknown> <20121225225116.5bd51630@mydesk>
	<20121225233228.67a288b5@victoria>
	<20121227091836.71bfdce8@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20121227044954.7a01ab47@victoria>

Yes, Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with Unity

 ===============================================================

----- Original Message(s): -----
Date: 2012 Dec 27 (Thu) 09:18
From: Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>
To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [Users] Filtering windows problem (cannot close)

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 23:32:28 -0800
"Victoria S." <1 at VictoriasJourney.com> wrote: 

> This is exactly the behavior I am describing.  It has been an
> ongoing occurrence / annoyance for some months (probably since some
> CM update). 

Do you use Unity? This seems to only occur when using Unity.

with regards

Paul


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but to a collector it is worth a fortune 
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 27 13:54:50 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:54:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] Filtering windows problem (cannot close)
In-Reply-To: <20121227044954.7a01ab47@victoria>
References: <20121225095818.212b5079@victoria>
	<20121225173542.00004652@unknown> <20121225225116.5bd51630@mydesk>
	<20121225233228.67a288b5@victoria>
	<20121227091836.71bfdce8@thewildbeast>
	<20121227044954.7a01ab47@victoria>
Message-ID: <20121227125450.2b535bb1@thewildbeast>

On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 04:49:54 -0800
"Victoria S." <1 at VictoriasJourney.com> wrote: 

> Yes, Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with Unity

Unity is the problem. Not sure if we can do anything about that, but
it doesn't look good.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From linux at slavino.sk  Thu Dec 27 14:46:30 2012
From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:46:30 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing external application for images
In-Reply-To: <20121227101713.7c899cd6@thewildbeast>
References: <20121227100919.79fcd51c@mepis1>
	<20121227101713.7c899cd6@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20121227144630.1ecde669@bonifac.skk>

Hi,

Dňa Thu, 27 Dec 2012 10:17:13 +0000 Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>
napísal:

> The MIME-type->application associations are kept in ~/.mailcap
> and /etc/mailcap. 

please, the .local/share/applications/mimeapps.list file is not
supported?

regards

-- 
Slavko
http://slavino.sk
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From colin at colino.net  Thu Dec 27 14:58:36 2012
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:58:36 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing external application for images
In-Reply-To: <20121227144630.1ecde669@bonifac.skk>
References: <20121227100919.79fcd51c@mepis1>
	<20121227101713.7c899cd6@thewildbeast>
	<20121227144630.1ecde669@bonifac.skk>
Message-ID: <20121227145836.0656c19f@colin>

On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:46:30 +0100, Slavko <linux at slavino.sk> wrote:

> please, the .local/share/applications/mimeapps.list file is not
> supported?

No, it's not. Use "xdg-open %s" if you want to use this file for
mimetype and applications mapping.

-- 
Colin


From linux at slavino.sk  Thu Dec 27 15:39:01 2012
From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:39:01 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing external application for images
In-Reply-To: <20121227145836.0656c19f@colin>
References: <20121227100919.79fcd51c@mepis1>
	<20121227101713.7c899cd6@thewildbeast>
	<20121227144630.1ecde669@bonifac.skk>
	<20121227145836.0656c19f@colin>
Message-ID: <20121227153901.11b58900@bonifac.skk>

Hi,

Dňa Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:58:36 +0100 Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
napísal:

> On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:46:30 +0100, Slavko <linux at slavino.sk> wrote:
> 
> > please, the .local/share/applications/mimeapps.list file is not
> > supported?
> 
> No, it's not. Use "xdg-open %s" if you want to use this file for
> mimetype and applications mapping.

Thanks, but please can you to be more precise?

Where i need to use the xdg-open? In the .mailcap file for each
mimetype? Or is there way to set all MIMEs in one line here?

regards

-- 
Slavko
http://slavino.sk
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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Thu Dec 27 19:27:53 2012
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:27:53 -0500
Subject: [Users] Filtering windows problem (cannot close)
In-Reply-To: <20121227125450.2b535bb1@thewildbeast>
References: <20121225095818.212b5079@victoria>
	<20121225173542.00004652@unknown> <20121225225116.5bd51630@mydesk>
	<20121225233228.67a288b5@victoria>
	<20121227091836.71bfdce8@thewildbeast>
	<20121227044954.7a01ab47@victoria>
	<20121227125450.2b535bb1@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20121227132753.413f2d0f@mydesk>

On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:54:50 +0000, Paul said:
> On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 04:49:54 -0800
> "Victoria S." <1 at VictoriasJourney.com> wrote: 
> 
> > Yes, Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with Unity
> 
> Unity is the problem. Not sure if we can do anything about that, but
> it doesn't look good.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul

It happens to me in Xfce with Ubuntu 11.10 and 12.04.

SteveT

Steve Litt                *  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
                          *  http://twitter.com/stevelitt
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 27 20:20:03 2012
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 19:20:03 +0000
Subject: [Users] Filtering windows problem (cannot close)
In-Reply-To: <20121227132753.413f2d0f@mydesk>
References: <20121225095818.212b5079@victoria>
	<20121225173542.00004652@unknown> <20121225225116.5bd51630@mydesk>
	<20121225233228.67a288b5@victoria>
	<20121227091836.71bfdce8@thewildbeast>
	<20121227044954.7a01ab47@victoria>
	<20121227125450.2b535bb1@thewildbeast>
	<20121227132753.413f2d0f@mydesk>
Message-ID: <20121227192003.0a7dd9b2@thewildbeast>

On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:27:53 -0500
Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote: 

> It happens to me in Xfce with Ubuntu 11.10 and 12.04.

Hmm, you're using 3.7.9, so that's a different issue which has been
fixed in recent versions.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From ricardo at mones.org  Thu Dec 27 23:03:29 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 23:03:29 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing external application for images
In-Reply-To: <20121227153901.11b58900@bonifac.skk>
References: <20121227100919.79fcd51c@mepis1>
	<20121227101713.7c899cd6@thewildbeast>
	<20121227144630.1ecde669@bonifac.skk>
	<20121227145836.0656c19f@colin>
	<20121227153901.11b58900@bonifac.skk>
Message-ID: <20121227230329.645525d4@busgosu>

On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:39:01 +0100
Slavko <linux at slavino.sk> wrote:

> Dňa Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:58:36 +0100 Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
> napísal:
> 
> > On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:46:30 +0100, Slavko <linux at slavino.sk> wrote:
> >   
> > > please, the .local/share/applications/mimeapps.list file is not
> > > supported?  
> > 
> > No, it's not. Use "xdg-open %s" if you want to use this file for
> > mimetype and applications mapping.  
> 
> Thanks, but please can you to be more precise?
> 
> Where i need to use the xdg-open? In the .mailcap file for each
> mimetype? Or is there way to set all MIMEs in one line here?

  He means you have to 'Open with...' your attachments using xdg-open, this
  way it will take care through xdg-mime of finding the program in that list.

  HTH,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  The three principal virtues of a programmer are Laziness, 
  Impatience, and Hubris.                                    man perl

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From neels at hofmeyr.de  Fri Dec 28 18:20:01 2012
From: neels at hofmeyr.de (Neels Hofmeyr)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 18:20:01 +0100
Subject: [Users] address completion, where is it?
Message-ID: <20121228182001.5d8cca62@dub>

Hi,

I'd like to mess around with the algorithm that selects the matching
email addresses when I hit TAB while typing a recipient.

It's taking me quite long to figure out where the local address
completion is done. All I see is a CallbackFunc being called on all
entries there are, and AFAICT the callback also just feeds all
addresses through. I can go on searching, but if someone here could
point me at the filter algorithm, I'd be delighted :)

Thanks!
~Neels
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From ricardo at mones.org  Fri Dec 28 21:23:06 2012
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 21:23:06 +0100
Subject: [Users] address completion, where is it?
In-Reply-To: <20121228182001.5d8cca62@dub>
References: <20121228182001.5d8cca62@dub>
Message-ID: <20121228212306.5157d495@busgosu>


  Hi Neels,

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 18:20:01 +0100
Neels Hofmeyr <neels at hofmeyr.de> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'd like to mess around with the algorithm that selects the matching
> email addresses when I hit TAB while typing a recipient.
> 
> It's taking me quite long to figure out where the local address
> completion is done. All I see is a CallbackFunc being called on all
> entries there are, and AFAICT the callback also just feeds all
> addresses through. I can go on searching, but if someone here could
> point me at the filter algorithm, I'd be delighted :)

http://developer.gnome.org/glib/2.28/glib-Automatic-String-Completion.html

  HTH,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  Never send a human to do a machine's job.               Agent Smith

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From berndth at gmx.de  Sat Dec 29 01:42:51 2012
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 01:42:51 +0100
Subject: [Users] programatically create a tag and set the message with
 it - evernote style - @info #claws-mail #programming
In-Reply-To: <20121223161604.543bc9de@wodan>
References: <20121223085811.287b236b@tofu> <20121223093252.3e876632@tofu>
	<20121223161604.543bc9de@wodan>
Message-ID: <20121229014251.02049ecd@wodan>

On So, 23.12.2012 16:16, Holger Berndt wrote:

>If you're aiming for some other kind of automation, the Python plugin
>can indeed be an option. However, the sitation there is somewhat
>similar: It can also create folders, but doesn't (yet) have support for
>tags (this time mainly because I don't use tags, and the plugin is
>extended on a "as-needed" basis).

I just added tag support to the Python plugin.

Holger


From berndth at gmx.de  Sat Dec 29 04:17:04 2012
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 04:17:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] programatically create a tag and set the message with
 it - evernote style - @info #claws-mail #programming
In-Reply-To: <20121229014251.02049ecd@wodan>
References: <20121223085811.287b236b@tofu> <20121223093252.3e876632@tofu>
	<20121223161604.543bc9de@wodan> <20121229014251.02049ecd@wodan>
Message-ID: <20121229041704.3a71e1ce@wodan>

On Sa, 29.12.2012 01:42, Holger Berndt wrote:

>I just added tag support to the Python plugin.

.. and also to the Perl plugin.

Holger


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Dec 30 11:54:34 2012
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 10:54:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2669] wrong behaviour of recovering maximized window
 from notification area
In-Reply-To: <bug-2669-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2669-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2669-595-4RjVQkxehz@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2669

--- Comment #1 from cyjambo at gmail.com ---
I an confirm this behaviour in Windows 7 with Claws Mail 3.9.0cvs12

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.


From lainecliff at gmail.com  Sun Dec 30 12:23:29 2012
From: lainecliff at gmail.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 11:23:29 +0000
Subject: [Users] Changing external application for images
Message-ID: <CAAdPkhXj_8suRujPoYqoeO0v3FmvS1M4f_KYhGAkCQ4NpqMoJQ@mail.gmail.com>

Many thanks to Paul and Colin for guiding me in the right direction to do this.

Cliff


From rsv869 at roadrunner.com  Mon Dec 31 03:35:58 2012
From: rsv869 at roadrunner.com (RSV-RR)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 21:35:58 -0500
Subject: [Users] Fw: a few questions from a new user - recover using archive
	?
Message-ID: <20121230213558.5d551b20@rsv-linux>

hello group -

Sent this note a few days ago and didn't get any response.  My primary
question is this:  assuming I use the archive tool to back up my CLAWW
mail, how do I recover using that archive. I don't see
anything in the documentation or in the app itself.

Thanks

Reid
 

Begin forwarded message:

Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 23:01:40 -0500
From: RSV-RR <rsv869 at roadrunner.com>
To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Subject: a few questions from a new user


Hello group -

I'm a new user considering converting to Claws and have a few qustions:


I see understand how to archive but haven't yet seen how to recover
from that archive.  


Is there a way to automate the archive process so it can be done
regularly?


How can mail be imported from other mail applications?  I see only a
import of one mbox folder at a time but the application currently
being used is Evolution, with lots of folders.


I'm sure there will be more but thanks.

Reid


From linux at slavino.sk  Mon Dec 31 10:08:38 2012
From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 10:08:38 +0100
Subject: [Users] Changing external application for images
In-Reply-To: <20121227230329.645525d4@busgosu>
References: <20121227100919.79fcd51c@mepis1>
	<20121227101713.7c899cd6@thewildbeast>
	<20121227144630.1ecde669@bonifac.skk>
	<20121227145836.0656c19f@colin>
	<20121227153901.11b58900@bonifac.skk>
	<20121227230329.645525d4@busgosu>
Message-ID: <20121231100838.6ef8932a@bonifac.skk>

Hi,

Dňa Thu, 27 Dec 2012 23:03:29 +0100 Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
napísal:

> > Where i need to use the xdg-open? In the .mailcap file for each
> > mimetype? Or is there way to set all MIMEs in one line here?
> 
>   He means you have to 'Open with...' your attachments using
> xdg-open, this way it will take care through xdg-mime of finding the
> program in that list.

Thanks for explanation. :-)

-- 
Slavko
http://slavino.sk
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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Mon Dec 31 12:41:15 2012
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:41:15 +0000
Subject: [Users] Fw: a few questions from a new user - recover using
 archive ?
In-Reply-To: <20121230213558.5d551b20@rsv-linux>
References: <20121230213558.5d551b20@rsv-linux>
Message-ID: <20121231114115.71253679@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 21:35:58 -0500
RSV-RR <rsv869 at roadrunner.com> wrote:

Hello RSV-RR,

>Sent this note a few days ago and didn't get any response.

Ricardo answered;

http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2012-December/005013.html

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
Now I found you out, I don't think you're so smart
Who Are You - Black Sabbath
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From rod_myers at fastmail.fm  Mon Dec 31 17:41:43 2012
From: rod_myers at fastmail.fm (Rodney D. Myers)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:41:43 -0500
Subject: [Users] mail archiver plugin
Message-ID: <20121231114143.317bcb28@rodney-desktop>

I'm attempting to archive my email archive structure, as one whole
file. Is that possible with this plugin?

my directory structure is similar to this;

  main_folder ->
	sub_folder_1
	sub_folder_2
	sub_folder_3

I've attempted to use the following settings to archive the folder
structure

folder to archive		<#mh/Mailbox/main folder>
name for archive		</home/user/Mail-Archive/mani_folder.bz2
BZIP2
TAR
Recursive
MD5sum
Select mail before		01/01/2013

And I get this error message;

adding files in folder failed
files in folder:	4
files in list:		0


Do I need to do each sub folder separately?

Thanks



-- 
Rodney D. Myers <rod_dmyers at fastmail.fm>

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
        Ben Franklin - 1759
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From mir at miras.org  Mon Dec 31 17:59:18 2012
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 17:59:18 +0100
Subject: [Users] mail archiver plugin
In-Reply-To: <20121231114143.317bcb28@rodney-desktop>
References: <20121231114143.317bcb28@rodney-desktop>
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:41:43 -0500
"Rodney D. Myers" <rod_myers at fastmail.fm> wrote:

> 
> Do I need to do each sub folder separately?
> 
is this (<#mh/Mailbox/main folder>) a proper MH folder?
Does it contain:
Inbox, Sent, Drafts, Queue, and Trash

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From rod_myers at fastmail.fm  Mon Dec 31 18:19:15 2012
From: rod_myers at fastmail.fm (Rodney D. Myers)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:19:15 -0500
Subject: [Users] mail archiver plugin
In-Reply-To: <20121231175918.45c7a0d4@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20121231114143.317bcb28@rodney-desktop>
	<20121231175918.45c7a0d4@sleipner.datanom.net>
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 17:59:18 +0100
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:41:43 -0500
> "Rodney D. Myers" <rod_myers at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Do I need to do each sub folder separately?
> > 
> is this (<#mh/Mailbox/main folder>) a proper MH folder?
> Does it contain:
> Inbox, Sent, Drafts, Queue, and Trash
> 

It won't allow the whole structure, so no.

I have 3 main folders;
	computer
	misc
	sms

I've selected the "computer" folder each time. If I remove the date
info, it backs things up. I do want everything before midnight tonight
archived.

-- 
Rodney D. Myers <rod_dmyers at fastmail.fm>

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
        Ben Franklin - 1759
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From mir at miras.org  Mon Dec 31 18:57:14 2012
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 18:57:14 +0100
Subject: [Users] Fw:  mail archiver plugin
Message-ID: <20121231185714.191c5e99@sleipner.datanom.net>



Begin forwarded message:

Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 18:56:48 +0100
From: Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org>
To: "Rodney D. Myers" <rod_myers at fastmail.fm>
Subject: Re: [Users] mail archiver plugin


On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:19:15 -0500
"Rodney D. Myers" <rod_myers at fastmail.fm> wrote:

> 
> I've selected the "computer" folder each time. If I remove the date
> info, it backs things up. I do want everything before midnight tonight
> archived.
> 
I missed that. Your date format does not conform to ISO-8601
(YYYY-MM-DD). You should see a help text when you hover your mouse over
the input field.

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From rod_myers at fastmail.fm  Mon Dec 31 19:22:04 2012
From: rod_myers at fastmail.fm (Rodney D. Myers)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 13:22:04 -0500
Subject: [Users] Fw:  mail archiver plugin
In-Reply-To: <20121231185714.191c5e99@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20121231185714.191c5e99@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20121231132204.679b122f@rodney-desktop>

On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 18:57:14 +0100
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 18:56:48 +0100
> From: Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org>
> To: "Rodney D. Myers" <rod_myers at fastmail.fm>
> Subject: Re: [Users] mail archiver plugin
> 
> 
> On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:19:15 -0500
> "Rodney D. Myers" <rod_myers at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I've selected the "computer" folder each time. If I remove the date
> > info, it backs things up. I do want everything before midnight
> > tonight archived.
> > 
> I missed that. Your date format does not conform to ISO-8601
> (YYYY-MM-DD). You should see a help text when you hover your mouse
> over the input field.
> 

That would be the fix.

Thank you

-- 
Rodney D. Myers <rod_dmyers at fastmail.fm>

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
        Ben Franklin - 1759
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From rsv869 at roadrunner.com  Mon Dec 31 21:35:56 2012
From: rsv869 at roadrunner.com (RSV-RR)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:35:56 -0500
Subject: [Users] Fw: a few questions from a new user - recover using
 archive ?
In-Reply-To: <20121231114115.71253679@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20121230213558.5d551b20@rsv-linux>
	<20121231114115.71253679@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20121231153556.447c5bb4@rsv-linux>

Hello group-

Thanks for your earlier reply.  I'm good with the explanation for
archiving.  

As for importing, I followed the link to documentation and found a
possible solution for importing the Evolution Address book using a .py
script.  Never used Python that before so I looked at the instructions
and searched 'net.  Best attempt looked like below, but with error
message.  It could be pilot error (always my first assumption) or
something else I can't fix?




reid at rsv-linux:~/Temp/claws-mail-vcard2xml$ python vcard2xml.py /Home/Temp/list.vcf
  File "vcard2xml.py", line 4
SyntaxError: Non-ASCII character '\xa9' in file vcard2xml.py on line 5, but no encoding declared; see http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0263.html for details



thanks

Reid



On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:41:15 +0000
Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 21:35:58 -0500
> RSV-RR <rsv869 at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello RSV-RR,
> 
> >Sent this note a few days ago and didn't get any response.
> 
> Ricardo answered;
> 
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2012-December/005013.html
> 
> -- 
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>         / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
> Now I found you out, I don't think you're so smart
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