From ml at lairdutemps.org  Thu Dec  1 10:05:27 2011
From: ml at lairdutemps.org (Daniel Caillibaud)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:05:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] wish : a previous button (following my reading history)
In-Reply-To: <20111130162115.2b9d2c7d@mc19>
References: <20111129132445.3d37285e@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<20111130162115.2b9d2c7d@mc19>
Message-ID: <20111201100527.023b1d96@quad.lairdutemps.org>

Le 30/11/11 à 16:21, MSulchan Darmawan <bleketux at gmail.com> a écrit :
MD> > A back button (to the previous read mail, following my reading
MD> > history) would be really usefull in such case ;-)
MD> 
MD> Maybe this one ???
MD> 
MD> View > Go To > Last Read Message

It works only once in the same folder (try to do thi several times, you only toggle between 2
messages). The wish I have is to really go to the previous displayed message following my
history.

-- 
Daniel

Vous prouver que j'ai raison serait admettre que je puisse avoir tort.
Beaumarchais


From h.m.brand at xs4all.nl  Thu Dec  1 11:04:10 2011
From: h.m.brand at xs4all.nl (H.Merijn Brand)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 11:04:10 +0100
Subject: [Users] wish : a previous button (following my reading history)
In-Reply-To: <20111201100527.023b1d96@quad.lairdutemps.org>
References: <20111129132445.3d37285e@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<20111130162115.2b9d2c7d@mc19>
	<20111201100527.023b1d96@quad.lairdutemps.org>
Message-ID: <20111201110410.26c4d538@pc09.procura.nl>

On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:05:27 +0100, Daniel Caillibaud
<ml at lairdutemps.org> wrote:

> Le 30/11/11 à 16:21, MSulchan Darmawan <bleketux at gmail.com> a écrit :
> MD> > A back button (to the previous read mail, following my reading
> MD> > history) would be really usefull in such case ;-)
> MD> 
> MD> Maybe this one ???
> MD> 
> MD> View > Go To > Last Read Message
> 
> It works only once in the same folder (try to do thi several times, you only toggle between 2
> messages). The wish I have is to really go to the previous displayed message following my
> history.

Me too

-- 
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using 5.00307 through 5.14 and porting perl5.15.x on HP-UX 10.20, 11.00,
11.11, 11.23 and 11.31, OpenSuSE 10.1, 11.0 .. 11.4 and AIX 5.2 and 5.3.
http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/           http://www.test-smoke.org/
http://qa.perl.org      http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/


From h.m.brand at xs4all.nl  Thu Dec  1 11:06:29 2011
From: h.m.brand at xs4all.nl (H.Merijn Brand)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 11:06:29 +0100
Subject: [Users] wish : a previous button (following my reading history)
In-Reply-To: <20111201100527.023b1d96@quad.lairdutemps.org>
References: <20111129132445.3d37285e@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<20111130162115.2b9d2c7d@mc19>
	<20111201100527.023b1d96@quad.lairdutemps.org>
Message-ID: <20111201110629.52845a0a@pc09.procura.nl>

On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:05:27 +0100, Daniel Caillibaud
<ml at lairdutemps.org> wrote:

> Le 30/11/11 à 16:21, MSulchan Darmawan <bleketux at gmail.com> a écrit :
> MD> > A back button (to the previous read mail, following my reading
> MD> > history) would be really usefull in such case ;-)  
> MD> 
> MD> Maybe this one ???
> MD> 
> MD> View > Go To > Last Read Message  
> 
> It works only once in the same folder (try to do thi several times, you only toggle between 2
> messages). The wish I have is to really go to the previous displayed message following my
> history.

One addition to the me-too: That list should be able to skip delete
messages. This function should be able to be something like

 "Go to previous read but not deleted message"

The maximum could/should be settable by user (say 20)

-- 
H.Merijn Brand  http://tux.nl      Perl Monger  http://amsterdam.pm.org/
using 5.00307 through 5.14 and porting perl5.15.x on HP-UX 10.20, 11.00,
11.11, 11.23 and 11.31, OpenSuSE 10.1, 11.0 .. 11.4 and AIX 5.2 and 5.3.
http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/           http://www.test-smoke.org/
http://qa.perl.org      http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/


From colin at colino.net  Thu Dec  1 11:06:49 2011
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 11:06:49 +0100
Subject: [Users] wish : a previous button (following my reading history)
In-Reply-To: <20111201110410.26c4d538@pc09.procura.nl>
References: <20111129132445.3d37285e@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<20111130162115.2b9d2c7d@mc19>
	<20111201100527.023b1d96@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<20111201110410.26c4d538@pc09.procura.nl>
Message-ID: <20111201110649.457e2f59@colin.i-run.fr>

On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 11:04:10 +0100, "H.Merijn Brand"
<h.m.brand at xs4all.nl> wrote:

> > It works only once in the same folder (try to do thi several times,
> > you only toggle between 2 messages). The wish I have is to really
> > go to the previous displayed message following my history.  
> 
> Me too

Me too. That's something we can do. It just needs to be done :)

-- 
Colin


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec  1 12:02:39 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu,  1 Dec 2011 12:02:39 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2555] New: att_remover plugin crash case
Message-ID: <bug-2555-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2555

           Summary: att_remover plugin crash case
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.7.10
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: jerome at jolimont.fr


Hi.

I have this email with three attached files.

Removing all of them at once using att_remover plugin makes claws-mail crash
systematically. Removing them seperately works.


---------------------------------------------------------------

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x00007fffe85ef641 in ?? () from /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/att_remover.so
(gdb) thread apply all bt

Thread 2 (Thread 0x7fffea7d9700 (LWP 28593)):
#0  0x00007ffff545d2c4 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x00007ffff48006eb in mailsem_internal_wait () from /usr/lib/libetpan.so.15
#2  0x00000000005e7069 in thread_run (data=0xdcdc80) at
etpan-thread-manager.c:324
#3  0x00007ffff5458b40 in start_thread () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
#4  0x00007ffff426036d in clone () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
#5  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()

Thread 1 (Thread 0x7ffff7fc49a0 (LWP 28590)):
#0  0x00007fffe85ef641 in ?? () from /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/att_remover.so
#1  0x00007ffff5211804 in g_closure_invoke () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#2  0x00007ffff522378a in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#3  0x00007ffff522ce11 in g_signal_emit_valist () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#4  0x00007ffff522cfb2 in g_signal_emit () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#5  0x00007ffff73f0dc5 in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#6  0x00007ffff5211804 in g_closure_invoke () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#7  0x00007ffff5222f7a in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#8  0x00007ffff522ce11 in g_signal_emit_valist () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#9  0x00007ffff522cfb2 in g_signal_emit () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#10 0x00007ffff73efbed in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#11 0x00007ffff7499418 in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#12 0x00007ffff5211804 in g_closure_invoke () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#13 0x00007ffff52235bf in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#14 0x00007ffff522cbe3 in g_signal_emit_valist () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#15 0x00007ffff522cfb2 in g_signal_emit () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#16 0x00007ffff75b2301 in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#17 0x00007ffff74975d3 in gtk_propagate_event () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#18 0x00007ffff7497933 in gtk_main_do_event () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#19 0x00007ffff710321c in ?? () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
#20 0x00007ffff4d4c0cf in g_main_context_dispatch () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#21 0x00007ffff4d4c8c8 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#22 0x00007ffff4d4ce02 in g_main_loop_run () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#23 0x00007ffff7496987 in gtk_main () from
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
#24 0x000000000044c0c8 in main (argc=1, argv=0x7fffffffe828) at main.c:1681

---------------------------------------------------------------


Just before the crash :


imap.c:1416:trying to fetch cached
/home/jerome/.claws-mail/imapcache/domain/account/dir/subdir/964
imap.c:1425:message 964 has been already fully cached.
    message/rfc822 (offset:0 length:3363613 encoding: 6)
        multipart/mixed (offset:1538 length:3362075 encoding: 6)
            multipart/alternative (offset:1709 length:1160892 encoding: 6)
                text/plain (offset:1842 length:568 encoding: 1)
                multipart/related (offset:2533 length:1160026 encoding: 6)
                    text/html (offset:2650 length:1338 encoding: 0)
                    image/png (offset:4137 length:1158380 encoding: 4)
            application/pdf (offset:1162824 length:2200747 encoding: 4)
imap.c:1416:trying to fetch cached
/home/jerome/.claws-mail/imapcache/domain/account/dir/subdir/964
imap.c:1425:message 964 has been already fully cached.
    message/rfc822 (offset:0 length:3363613 encoding: 6)
        multipart/mixed (offset:1538 length:3362075 encoding: 6)
            multipart/alternative (offset:1709 length:1160892 encoding: 6)
                text/plain (offset:1842 length:568 encoding: 1)
                multipart/related (offset:2533 length:1160026 encoding: 6)
                    text/html (offset:2650 length:1338 encoding: 0)
                    image/png (offset:4137 length:1158380 encoding: 4)
            application/pdf (offset:1162824 length:2200747 encoding: 4)
imap.c:1416:trying to fetch cached
/home/jerome/.claws-mail/imapcache/domain/account/dir/subdir/964
imap.c:1425:message 964 has been already fully cached.
    message/rfc822 (offset:0 length:3363613 encoding: 6)
        multipart/mixed (offset:1538 length:3362075 encoding: 6)
            multipart/alternative (offset:1709 length:1160892 encoding: 6)
                text/plain (offset:1842 length:568 encoding: 1)
                multipart/related (offset:2533 length:1160026 encoding: 6)
                    text/html (offset:2650 length:1338 encoding: 0)
                    image/png (offset:4137 length:1158380 encoding: 4)
            application/pdf (offset:1162824 length:2200747 encoding: 4)
att_remover.c:174:called inc_lock (lock count 1)


Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x00007fffe85ef641 in ?? () from /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/att_remover.so


---------------------------------------------------------------


FWIF, here's the structure of the message :


Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
 boundary="------------040408070706010509050800"

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--------------040408070706010509050800
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary="------------090105080802090309080202"


--------------090105080802090309080202
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit


[...]  Text


--------------090105080802090309080202
Content-Type: multipart/related;
 boundary="------------000103040906030202050305"


--------------000103040906030202050305
Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

[...] html


--------------000103040906030202050305
Content-Type: image/png
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-ID: <part1.07030602.02050309 at laposte.net>

[...]

--------------000103040906030202050305--

--------------090105080802090309080202--

--------------040408070706010509050800
Content-Type: application/pdf;
 name="the_name_of_the_file.pdf"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment;
 filename="the_name_of_the_file.pdf"

[...]

--------------040408070706010509050800--


---------------------------------------------------------------


Not sur the trace is enough. I installed and used claws-mail-dbg but I didn't
find any debug package for the plugin.


I built (but did not install) the CVS version of claws-mail but I couldn't
build the plugin :

configure: error: Package requirements (claws-mail >= 3.6.1.27) were not met:

No package 'claws-mail' found

Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
installed software in a non-standard prefix.

Alternatively, you may set the environment variables CLAWS_MAIL_CFLAGS
and CLAWS_MAIL_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
See the pkg-config man page for more details.

I didn't know what to do after that.

Therefore, the trace I provided is made with packaged version.

Feel free to ask for more details. This is 100% reproducible.

-- 
Configure bugmail: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/userprefs.cgi?tab=email
------- You are receiving this mail because: -------
You are the assignee for the bug.


From moh at gmx.org  Thu Dec  1 12:04:04 2011
From: moh at gmx.org (Steffen Klemer)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 12:04:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] wish : a previous button (following my reading history)
In-Reply-To: <20111130144429.5badeb28@resist.wooz.org>
References: <20111129132445.3d37285e@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<20111130144429.5badeb28@resist.wooz.org>
Message-ID: <20111201120404.0f55d0a9@moppi.kel.wh.local>

Am Wed, 30.11.2011 um 14:44 schrieb Barry Warsaw <barry at python.org>:

> Even more useful would be browser-like tabs!

A question to the developers: Is it possible with the current
architecture to open and show 2 (or more) folders at the same time?


/Steffen

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 /\  www.asciiribbon.org   - against proprietary attachments


From pezcurrel at tiscali.it  Thu Dec  1 12:13:55 2011
From: pezcurrel at tiscali.it (pezcurrel)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 12:13:55 +0100
Subject: [Users] IMAP connection is un-authenticated
Message-ID: <20111201121355.13e2b674@pantagruel.manuelito.lan>

Hi all,
what's that "* IMAP connection is un-authenticated"?
Is it something to worry about?
Regards

* Account 'XXX': Connecting to IMAP4 server: XXX...
[01:23:53] IMAP4< * OK IMAP4 ready 
[01:23:53] IMAP4> 1 STARTTLS 
[01:23:54] IMAP4< 1 OK completed 
* IMAP connection is un-authenticated
[01:23:54] IMAP4> 2 CAPABILITY 
[01:23:54] IMAP4< * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE AUTH=PLAIN 
[01:23:54] IMAP4< 2 OK completed 
[01:23:54] IMAP4> Logging XXX to XXX using LOGIN
[01:23:55] IMAP4< Logged in
[01:23:55] IMAP4< Login to XXX successful
[01:23:55] IMAP4> 4 LIST "" "" 
[01:23:55] IMAP4< * LIST (\Noselect) "." "" 
[01:23:55] IMAP4< 4 OK List completed. 
[01:23:55] IMAP4> 5 STATUS INBOX (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) 
[01:23:56] IMAP4< * STATUS "INBOX" (MESSAGES 0 UIDNEXT 66335 UIDVALIDITY 1021493879 UNSEEN 0) 
[01:23:56] IMAP4< 5 OK Status completed.


From pf at pfortin.com  Thu Dec  1 16:05:22 2011
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:05:22 -0500
Subject: [Users] wish : a previous button (following my reading history)
In-Reply-To: <20111201110629.52845a0a@pc09.procura.nl>
References: <20111129132445.3d37285e@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<20111130162115.2b9d2c7d@mc19>
	<20111201100527.023b1d96@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<20111201110629.52845a0a@pc09.procura.nl>
Message-ID: <20111201100522.5570ea2a@pfortin.com>

On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 11:06:29 +0100 H.Merijn Brand wrote:

>On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:05:27 +0100, Daniel Caillibaud
><ml at lairdutemps.org> wrote:
>
>> Le 30/11/11 à 16:21, MSulchan Darmawan <bleketux at gmail.com> a écrit :
>> MD> > A back button (to the previous read mail, following my reading
>> MD> > history) would be really usefull in such case ;-)  
>> MD> 
>> MD> Maybe this one ???
>> MD> 
>> MD> View > Go To > Last Read Message  
>> 
>> It works only once in the same folder (try to do thi several times,
>> you only toggle between 2 messages). The wish I have is to really go
>> to the previous displayed message following my history.
>
>One addition to the me-too: That list should be able to skip delete
>messages. This function should be able to be something like
>
> "Go to previous read but not deleted message"
>
>The maximum could/should be settable by user (say 20)
>

I might choose 50... 

[warning: corner case ahead :) -- aka: unintended consequences category]

Hmm...  sometimes (rarely), I quickly scan a folder with up/down arrows,
so this feature might need a "Don't add to list unless message has been
viewed for ___ seconds" -- otherwise, the history list would be polluted
and worthless quite fast...  


From pf at pfortin.com  Thu Dec  1 16:14:51 2011
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:14:51 -0500
Subject: [Users] wish : a previous button (following my reading history)
In-Reply-To: <20111201120404.0f55d0a9@moppi.kel.wh.local>
References: <20111129132445.3d37285e@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<20111130144429.5badeb28@resist.wooz.org>
	<20111201120404.0f55d0a9@moppi.kel.wh.local>
Message-ID: <20111201101451.5171a96d@pfortin.com>

On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 12:04:04 +0100 Steffen Klemer wrote:

>Am Wed, 30.11.2011 um 14:44 schrieb Barry Warsaw <barry at python.org>:
>
>> Even more useful would be browser-like tabs!
>
>A question to the developers: Is it possible with the current
>architecture to open and show 2 (or more) folders at the same time?
>
>
>/Steffen
>

OOOOHHHHH.... now THIS I would like...  I was about to mention split
folder list and message pane; but it might be easier and more useful to
have "View->Open Folder in New Window" (like open msg in new window)



From pf at pfortin.com  Thu Dec  1 16:33:41 2011
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:33:41 -0500
Subject: [Users] Hidden(?) CM feature(s)...
Message-ID: <20111201103341.5b452d5e@pfortin.com>

Hi,

In the Preferences window, I had selected Display->Summaries and
accidentally depressed the "d" key and a small text box with d in it
opened up just below the Page Index column...  

Never knew this quick-search feature was there...
i.e.,  "d" takes you to Display
       "dil"  "    "   " Dillo
       etc...
Typing "message w" moves from 'Message View' to 'Message Window'...

Gotta wonder how many other hidden surprises are in CM...  :)

Could this feature be re-used as a super-fast quick search for messages?
Maybe by adding a "SuperFast" checkbox?  Kinda like Firefox' about:config
Filter:...  BUT... because of the size of some folders, this may become
slow if on all the time...



From colin at colino.net  Thu Dec  1 16:49:40 2011
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 16:49:40 +0100
Subject: [Users] Hidden(?) CM feature(s)...
In-Reply-To: <20111201103341.5b452d5e@pfortin.com>
References: <20111201103341.5b452d5e@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20111201164940.0e39fc17@colin.i-run.fr>

On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:33:41 -0500, Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> In the Preferences window, I had selected Display->Summaries and
> accidentally depressed the "d" key and a small text box with d in it
> opened up just below the Page Index column...  
> 
> Never knew this quick-search feature was there...
> i.e.,  "d" takes you to Display
>        "dil"  "    "   " Dillo
>        etc...
> Typing "message w" moves from 'Message View' to 'Message Window'...
> 
> Gotta wonder how many other hidden surprises are in CM...  :)
> 
> Could this feature be re-used as a super-fast quick search for
> messages? Maybe by adding a "SuperFast" checkbox?  Kinda like
> Firefox' about:config Filter:...  BUT... because of the size of some
> folders, this may become slow if on all the time...

That's just a standard GtkTreeView feature :)
We can't use it in the message list as it's not the same widget.
-- 
Colin


From mir at miras.org  Thu Dec  1 17:08:34 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:08:34 +0100
Subject: [Users] Hidden(?) CM feature(s)...
In-Reply-To: <20111201164940.0e39fc17@colin.i-run.fr>
References: <20111201103341.5b452d5e@pfortin.com>
	<20111201164940.0e39fc17@colin.i-run.fr>
Message-ID: <2c85dffa-2928-4cd2-9825-8f9340cebfbf@email.android.com>

A recent addition caused by transition to GTK3:-)
-- 
Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:33:41 -0500, Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> In the Preferences window, I had selected Display->Summaries and
> accidentally depressed the "d" key and a small text box with d in it
> opened up just below the Page Index column... 
> 
> Never knew this quick-search feature was there...
> i.e., "d" takes you to Display
> "dil" " " " Dillo
> etc...
> Typing "message w" moves from 'Message View' to 'Message Window'...
> 
> Gotta wonder how many other hidden surprises are in CM... :)
> 
> Could this feature be re-used as a super-fast quick search for
> messages? Maybe by adding a "SuperFast" checkbox? Kinda like
> Firefox' about:config Filter:... BUT... because of the size of some
> folders, this may become slow if on all the time...

That's just a standard GtkTreeView feature :)
We can't use it in the message list as it's not the same widget.
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From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Thu Dec  1 17:39:10 2011
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 09:39:10 -0700
Subject: [Users] Hidden(?) CM feature(s)...
In-Reply-To: <2c85dffa-2928-4cd2-9825-8f9340cebfbf@email.android.com>
References: <20111201103341.5b452d5e@pfortin.com>
	<20111201164940.0e39fc17@colin.i-run.fr>
	<2c85dffa-2928-4cd2-9825-8f9340cebfbf@email.android.com>
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On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:08:34 +0100
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> transition to GTK3

Aha. and how will that affect those curmudgeons, such as myself, who
insist on XFCE or otherwise sticking to GTK2?

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From codejodler at gmx.ch  Thu Dec  1 17:52:40 2011
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 17:52:40 +0100
Subject: [Users] wish : a previous button (following my reading history)
In-Reply-To: <20111201100522.5570ea2a@pfortin.com>
References: <20111129132445.3d37285e@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<20111130162115.2b9d2c7d@mc19>
	<20111201100527.023b1d96@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<20111201110629.52845a0a@pc09.procura.nl>
	<20111201100522.5570ea2a@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20111201175240.7c0e7f6d@mirrors.kernel.org>

 Pierre,

It's a good idea. Why not just take over the 'mark as read' delay setting.

> On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 11:06:29 +0100 H.Merijn Brand wrote:
> 
> >On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:05:27 +0100, Daniel Caillibaud
> ><ml at lairdutemps.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Le 30/11/11 à 16:21, MSulchan Darmawan <bleketux at gmail.com> a écrit :
> >> MD> > A back button (to the previous read mail, following my reading
> >> MD> > history) would be really usefull in such case ;-)  
> >> MD> 
> >> MD> Maybe this one ???
> >> MD> 
> >> MD> View > Go To > Last Read Message  
> >> 
> >> It works only once in the same folder (try to do thi several times,
> >> you only toggle between 2 messages). The wish I have is to really go
> >> to the previous displayed message following my history.
> >
> >One addition to the me-too: That list should be able to skip delete
> >messages. This function should be able to be something like
> >
> > "Go to previous read but not deleted message"
> >
> >The maximum could/should be settable by user (say 20)
> >
> 
> I might choose 50... 
> 
> [warning: corner case ahead :) -- aka: unintended consequences category]
> 
> Hmm...  sometimes (rarely), I quickly scan a folder with up/down arrows,
> so this feature might need a "Don't add to list unless message has been
> viewed for ___ seconds" -- otherwise, the history list would be polluted
> and worthless quite fast...  
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From moh at gmx.org  Thu Dec  1 17:57:35 2011
From: moh at gmx.org (Steffen Klemer)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 17:57:35 +0100
Subject: [Users] Hidden(?) CM feature(s)...
In-Reply-To: <20111201093910.19969d79@yendi>
References: <20111201103341.5b452d5e@pfortin.com>
	<20111201164940.0e39fc17@colin.i-run.fr>
	<2c85dffa-2928-4cd2-9825-8f9340cebfbf@email.android.com>
	<20111201093910.19969d79@yendi>
Message-ID: <20111201175735.58ed6948@moppi.kel.wh.local>

Am Thu, 01.12.2011 um 09:39 schrieb Charles Curley
<charlescurley at charlescurley.com>:

> > transition to GTK3  
> 
> Aha. and how will that affect those curmudgeons, such as myself, who
> insist on XFCE or otherwise sticking to GTK2?

It's the same feature there. It's all about the pretty but slow
GtkTreeView widget.


/Steffen

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From ricardo at mones.org  Thu Dec  1 18:39:13 2011
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 18:39:13 +0100
Subject: [Users] GTK+3 transition (was: Re:  Hidden(?) CM feature(s)...)
In-Reply-To: <20111201093910.19969d79@yendi>
References: <20111201103341.5b452d5e@pfortin.com>
	<20111201164940.0e39fc17@colin.i-run.fr>
	<2c85dffa-2928-4cd2-9825-8f9340cebfbf@email.android.com>
	<20111201093910.19969d79@yendi>
Message-ID: <20111201173913.GJ27266@trasgu>

  Hi,

On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 09:39:10AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:08:34 +0100
> Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:
> 
> > transition to GTK3
> 
> Aha. and how will that affect those curmudgeons, such as myself, who
> insist on XFCE or otherwise sticking to GTK2?

  GTK+3 it's co-installable with GTK+2, so your XFCE should be no problem.

  If you want to stick to GTK+2 Claws Mail, well, you'll follow the path
of those who wanted to stick to GTK+1... maybe better as it's probably some
bugfixing will be done on GTK+2 version for some time, but with team's
scarce resources I won't expect that to last forever. Of course you can join
and maintain the GTK+2 branch :)

  regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  RTFM - "Read The Manual" (The 'F' is silent). Usually a very good 
  idea.                                             Bjarne Stroustrup

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From mir at miras.org  Thu Dec  1 18:47:12 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 18:47:12 +0100
Subject: [Users] GTK+3 transition (was: Re: Hidden(?) CM feature(s)...)
In-Reply-To: <20111201173913.GJ27266@trasgu>
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On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 18:39:13 +0100
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:

> 
>   If you want to stick to GTK+2 Claws Mail, well, you'll follow the path
> of those who wanted to stick to GTK+1... maybe better as it's probably some
> bugfixing will be done on GTK+2 version for some time, but with team's
> scarce resources I won't expect that to last forever. Of course you can join
> and maintain the GTK+2 branch :)
Seems to me that this time the chances of a GTK2 lasting longer than
GTK1 is much higher due to this effort:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=121162

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From mir at miras.org  Thu Dec  1 18:49:27 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 18:49:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] GTK+3 transition (was: Re: Hidden(?) CM feature(s)...)
In-Reply-To: <20111201184712.3a341970@sleipner.datanom.net>
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	<2c85dffa-2928-4cd2-9825-8f9340cebfbf@email.android.com>
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On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 18:47:12 +0100
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=121162
> 
BTW, any Spanish speaking readers (Ricardo:-)
A translation is much appreciated:
http://matsusoft.com.ar/projects/mate/

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From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Thu Dec  1 19:11:35 2011
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 11:11:35 -0700
Subject: [Users] GTK+3 transition (was: Re: Hidden(?) CM feature(s)...)
In-Reply-To: <20111201173913.GJ27266@trasgu>
References: <20111201103341.5b452d5e@pfortin.com>
	<20111201164940.0e39fc17@colin.i-run.fr>
	<2c85dffa-2928-4cd2-9825-8f9340cebfbf@email.android.com>
	<20111201093910.19969d79@yendi> <20111201173913.GJ27266@trasgu>
Message-ID: <20111201111135.6d838ba3@yendi>

On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 18:39:13 +0100
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:

>   GTK+3 it's co-installable with GTK+2, so your XFCE should be no
> problem.
> 
>   If you want to stick to GTK+2 Claws Mail, well, you'll follow the
> path of those who wanted to stick to GTK+1... maybe better as it's
> probably some bugfixing will be done on GTK+2 version for some time,
> but with team's scarce resources I won't expect that to last forever.
> Of course you can join and maintain the GTK+2 branch :)

Thanks, that is encouraging. So is the Mate project, but I'll wait on
that until it's in Debian stable or backports. Which will be a while, if
ever.

I'm moving from Ubuntu to Debian partly to get away from Gnome 3/Unity,
but mainly because stability and continuity are more important to me
than the latest bells and whistles.

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From pf at pfortin.com  Thu Dec  1 19:14:28 2011
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 13:14:28 -0500
Subject: [Users] wish : a previous button (following my reading history)
In-Reply-To: <20111201175240.7c0e7f6d@mirrors.kernel.org>
References: <20111129132445.3d37285e@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<20111130162115.2b9d2c7d@mc19>
	<20111201100527.023b1d96@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<20111201110629.52845a0a@pc09.procura.nl>
	<20111201100522.5570ea2a@pfortin.com>
	<20111201175240.7c0e7f6d@mirrors.kernel.org>
Message-ID: <20111201131428.38657e5b@pfortin.com>

On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 17:52:40 +0100 Michael wrote:

>> On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 11:06:29 +0100 H.Merijn Brand wrote:
>> 
>> >On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:05:27 +0100, Daniel Caillibaud
>> ><ml at lairdutemps.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Le 30/11/11 à 16:21, MSulchan Darmawan <bleketux at gmail.com> a
>> >> écrit :
>> >> MD> > A back button (to the previous read mail, following my reading
>> >> MD> > history) would be really usefull in such case ;-)  
>> >> MD> 
>> >> MD> Maybe this one ???
>> >> MD> 
>> >> MD> View > Go To > Last Read Message  
>> >> 
>> >> It works only once in the same folder (try to do thi several times,
>> >> you only toggle between 2 messages). The wish I have is to really go
>> >> to the previous displayed message following my history.
>> >
>> >One addition to the me-too: That list should be able to skip delete
>> >messages. This function should be able to be something like
>> >
>> > "Go to previous read but not deleted message"
>> >
>> >The maximum could/should be settable by user (say 20)
>> >
>> 
>> I might choose 50... 
>> 
>> [warning: corner case ahead :) -- aka: unintended consequences
>> category]
>> 
>> Hmm...  sometimes (rarely), I quickly scan a folder with up/down
>> arrows, so this feature might need a "Don't add to list unless message
>> has been viewed for ___ seconds" -- otherwise, the history list would
>> be polluted and worthless quite fast...  

> Pierre,
>
>It's a good idea. Why not just take over the 'mark as read' delay
>setting.

[top-posting is frowned on here... :) fixed ]

Haven't seen that setting in a while; but that could be an "overload"...
I use the arrows occasionally to jump to the bottom message where there
are no unread messages.  Any unread messages get marked as read if I
do it in that case....   So I need to find the mark as read delay and
change to 1 second before using arrows over unread messages...  I would
actually like that in addition to the above back/forward feature request.
 


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Thu Dec  1 19:57:19 2011
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 19:57:19 +0100
Subject: [Users] wish : a previous button (following my reading history)
In-Reply-To: <20111201131428.38657e5b@pfortin.com>
References: <20111129132445.3d37285e@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<20111130162115.2b9d2c7d@mc19>
	<20111201100527.023b1d96@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<20111201110629.52845a0a@pc09.procura.nl>
	<20111201100522.5570ea2a@pfortin.com>
	<20111201175240.7c0e7f6d@mirrors.kernel.org>
	<20111201131428.38657e5b@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20111201195719.2d71785e@mirrors.kernel.org>

 Pierre,

> [top-posting is frowned on here... :) fixed ]

thx. It was an accident when i hit a random key, trying to manage my cup of coffee ;)
 
> Haven't seen that setting in a while; but that could be an "overload"...

What i meant is, the delay daemon could after doing it's job just add the mail to the history.

> So I need to find the mark as read delay 

Prefs -> Summaries -> Message List


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Thu Dec  1 20:02:43 2011
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 20:02:43 +0100
Subject: [Users] GTK+3 transition (was: Re: Hidden(?) CM feature(s)...)
In-Reply-To: <20111201111135.6d838ba3@yendi>
References: <20111201103341.5b452d5e@pfortin.com>
	<20111201164940.0e39fc17@colin.i-run.fr>
	<2c85dffa-2928-4cd2-9825-8f9340cebfbf@email.android.com>
	<20111201093910.19969d79@yendi> <20111201173913.GJ27266@trasgu>
	<20111201111135.6d838ba3@yendi>
Message-ID: <20111201200243.6102283f@mirrors.kernel.org>

I wonder if people sometimes mistake gtk3 for gnome3.



From pf at pfortin.com  Thu Dec  1 20:51:27 2011
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 14:51:27 -0500
Subject: [Users] wish : a previous button (following my reading history)
In-Reply-To: <20111201195719.2d71785e@mirrors.kernel.org>
References: <20111129132445.3d37285e@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<20111130162115.2b9d2c7d@mc19>
	<20111201100527.023b1d96@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<20111201110629.52845a0a@pc09.procura.nl>
	<20111201100522.5570ea2a@pfortin.com>
	<20111201175240.7c0e7f6d@mirrors.kernel.org>
	<20111201131428.38657e5b@pfortin.com>
	<20111201195719.2d71785e@mirrors.kernel.org>
Message-ID: <20111201145127.29f9fb48@pfortin.com>

On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 19:57:19 +0100 Michael wrote:

>> So I need to find the mark as read delay   
>
>Prefs -> Summaries -> Message List

THERE it is...!  :)  Was quicker to change clawsrc -- so now I can arrow
right past unread messages without clearing the flag...  Thanks for the
reminder tip!


From ricardo at mones.org  Thu Dec  1 23:22:28 2011
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 23:22:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] GTK+3 transition (was: Re: Hidden(?) CM feature(s)...)
In-Reply-To: <20111201184927.10007e1f@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20111201103341.5b452d5e@pfortin.com>
	<20111201164940.0e39fc17@colin.i-run.fr>
	<2c85dffa-2928-4cd2-9825-8f9340cebfbf@email.android.com>
	<20111201093910.19969d79@yendi> <20111201173913.GJ27266@trasgu>
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	<20111201184927.10007e1f@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20111201222228.GL27266@trasgu>

On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 06:49:27PM +0100, Michael Rasmussen wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 18:47:12 +0100
> Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:
> 
> > https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=121162
> > 
> BTW, any Spanish speaking readers (Ricardo:-)
> A translation is much appreciated:
> http://matsusoft.com.ar/projects/mate/

  Well, that page is basically stating that the Mate project is a gnome2 fork,
a non-intuitive non-appealing desktop for users :)
  Oh, and with a funny project philosophy based on mate's ritual (!), a
traditional infused drink consumed in South America mainly, see 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_(beverage)

  Unfortunately seems to be a one-man effort (as nobody else is committing on
the github repo), which it's probably not much given the size of gnome2.
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
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From mir at miras.org  Thu Dec  1 23:40:56 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 23:40:56 +0100
Subject: [Users] GTK+3 transition (was: Re: Hidden(?) CM feature(s)...)
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On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 23:22:28 +0100
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:

> 
>   Unfortunately seems to be a one-man effort (as nobody else is committing on
> the github repo), which it's probably not much given the size of gnome2.
I don't think so:
"MATE
MATE is a fork of Gnome 2 which is compatible with Gnome 3. Thanks to
MATE, you can run both versions of Gnome on the same system.

MATE is present on the DVD edition of Linux Mint 12. Users of the CD
edition can install it via the mint-meta-mate package.

MATE is brand new, it's not completely stable yet, and it's missing a
few parts. It's being actively maintained and with close collaboration
between the MATE developers and Linux Mint. With time the project will
gain maturity and provide users with a traditional and solid desktop
experience.

Eventually, MATE will be in every way identical to Gnome 2 and
represent the future of traditional desktops within Linux.

In Linux Mint 12, both mintDesktop (in the RC) and mintMenu (in the
stable release) are adapted and receive full support to work with MATE."
http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_lisa_whatsnew.php

-- 
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From berndth at gmx.de  Fri Dec  2 00:09:21 2011
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 00:09:21 +0100
Subject: [Users] GTK+3 transition (was: Re: Hidden(?) CM feature(s)...)
In-Reply-To: <20111201234056.2e6ef142@sleipner.datanom.net>
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	<20111201164940.0e39fc17@colin.i-run.fr>
	<2c85dffa-2928-4cd2-9825-8f9340cebfbf@email.android.com>
	<20111201093910.19969d79@yendi> <20111201173913.GJ27266@trasgu>
	<20111201184712.3a341970@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111201184927.10007e1f@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111201222228.GL27266@trasgu>
	<20111201234056.2e6ef142@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20111202000921.3d5fd14c@wodan>

On Do, 01.12.2011 23:40, Michael Rasmussen wrote:

>I don't think so:

There's been many forks before, and so far, there's never been a lack of
mission statements (but basically everything else). Time will tell.

Holger


From jamagallon at ono.com  Fri Dec  2 00:11:45 2011
From: jamagallon at ono.com (JA Magallon)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 00:11:45 +0100
Subject: [Users] GTK+3 transition (was: Re: Hidden(?) CM feature(s)...)
In-Reply-To: <20111201234056.2e6ef142@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20111201103341.5b452d5e@pfortin.com>
	<20111201164940.0e39fc17@colin.i-run.fr>
	<2c85dffa-2928-4cd2-9825-8f9340cebfbf@email.android.com>
	<20111201093910.19969d79@yendi> <20111201173913.GJ27266@trasgu>
	<20111201184712.3a341970@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111201184927.10007e1f@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111201222228.GL27266@trasgu>
	<20111201234056.2e6ef142@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20111202001145.2f8b34c9@werewolf.home>

On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 23:40:56 +0100
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 23:22:28 +0100
> Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:
> 
> > 
> >   Unfortunately seems to be a one-man effort (as nobody else is committing on
> > the github repo), which it's probably not much given the size of gnome2.
> I don't think so:
> "MATE
> MATE is a fork of Gnome 2 which is compatible with Gnome 3. Thanks to
> MATE, you can run both versions of Gnome on the same system.
> 

<rant :(>
Oh, no, Unity Chapter Two....

Why the h**ll has he/them to rewrite whole gnome ???
I'll never understand.
</rant :)>

If you want a traditional desktop environment, just write a replacement
for gnome shell. Pick the code from fallback mode in gnome shell and
write that. So you get for free all that gconf/dconf support, applications
written for gnome3, enhancements for free and so on (for example,
online accounts for a panel status indicator).
What is the sense in rewriting ALL of Gnome ?
Can't you just write a traditional session and panel with gtk3 ?

Even probably you don't have to do ANYTHING. There is still the
possibility to start Gnome in traditional mode. Mageia Cauldron has
a session file for that. It will work until Gnome people kills
fallback mode. But then you can fork _just that part_.

> MATE is present on the DVD edition of Linux Mint 12. Users of the CD
> edition can install it via the mint-meta-mate package.
> 
> MATE is brand new, it's not completely stable yet, and it's missing a
> few parts. It's being actively maintained and with close collaboration
> between the MATE developers and Linux Mint. With time the project will
> gain maturity and provide users with a traditional and solid desktop
> experience.
> 
> Eventually, MATE will be in every way identical to Gnome 2 and
> represent the future of traditional desktops within Linux.
> 
> In Linux Mint 12, both mintDesktop (in the RC) and mintMenu (in the
> stable release) are adapted and receive full support to work with MATE."
> http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_lisa_whatsnew.php
> 

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From alb348 at gmail.com  Fri Dec  2 00:31:48 2011
From: alb348 at gmail.com (alb348 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 00:31:48 +0100
Subject: [Users] Filtering and scripting
Message-ID: <4ED80E64.7090006@gmail.com>

Hi

do filters in Claws Mail require Python scripting? Or can email 
filtering and automatic sorting be done without scripts?
Anyway, what functionalities do Python scripts provide, roughly?

Thanks in advance.

Alby




From berndth at gmx.de  Fri Dec  2 00:43:59 2011
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 00:43:59 +0100
Subject: [Users] Filtering and scripting
In-Reply-To: <4ED80E64.7090006@gmail.com>
References: <4ED80E64.7090006@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20111202004359.13ab3bfd@wodan>

On Fr, 02.12.2011 00:31, alb348 at gmail.com wrote:

>do filters in Claws Mail require Python scripting?

No. Typically, you set up filters using a dialog box, choosing from a
selection of provided conditions and actions. If you want, you can
program filters in Perl, using the Perl plugin, but you don't have to.
Python scripts have nothing to do with filtering (well, except that you
can call external Python scripts just as you can call other kinds of
executables from filter rules).

>Anyway, what functionalities do Python scripts provide, roughly?

Assuming you're talking about the Python plugin - it allows you to hook
into certain parts of Claws Mail and extend/automate stuff. The plugin
comes with a few examples.

Holger


From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Fri Dec  2 13:35:10 2011
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 12:35:10 +0000
Subject: [Users] Suggestion on toolbars and gnome 3
Message-ID: <20111202123510.638d5b7b@g8jvm.com>

Hi
In the gnome3 shell the top LH corner is a hot spot, and it seem to anticipate when the mouse is moving
towards it, which is a pain when you are clicking on something in the top LH side of the toolbar.
I've lost count of the amount of times I've hit the hotspot and the display has changed when getting and
sending mail.
As a bodge I've put separators to move the "send and "GET Mail" buttons away from the edge, which has
stopped the accidental hot spot clicks.

IMO it would be better to add a space on the toolbars on the left side to move buttons away from the hot
spot.
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Richard Bown

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec  2 14:12:16 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 13:12:16 +0000
Subject: [Users] Suggestion on toolbars and gnome 3
In-Reply-To: <20111202123510.638d5b7b@g8jvm.com>
References: <20111202123510.638d5b7b@g8jvm.com>
Message-ID: <20111202131216.34a16311@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 12:35:10 +0000
Richard <richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: 

> IMO it would be better to add a space on the toolbars on the left
> side to move buttons away from the hot spot.

Claws Mail is not a gnome app - it is desktop neutral. Therefore, it
seems to me, that a workaround for a particular desktop is best
avoided if possible. But anyway, can't you turn off this 'hotspot'??

with regards

Paul


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From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Fri Dec  2 14:17:19 2011
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 13:17:19 +0000
Subject: [Users] Suggestion on toolbars and gnome 3
In-Reply-To: <20111202131216.34a16311@thewildbeast>
References: <20111202123510.638d5b7b@g8jvm.com>
	<20111202131216.34a16311@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20111202131719.1a07847f@g8jvm.com>

On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 13:12:16 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 12:35:10 +0000
> Richard <richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: 
> 
> > IMO it would be better to add a space on the toolbars on the left
> > side to move buttons away from the hot spot.
> 
> Claws Mail is not a gnome app - it is desktop neutral. Therefore, it
> seems to me, that a workaround for a particular desktop is best
> avoided if possible. But anyway, can't you turn off this 'hotspot'??
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> 
> 

I wish it could be turned off or moved.
I know its desktop neutral, but it wouldn't hurt to add a space to avoid the top LH corner.

-- 
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Richard Bown

e-mail: richard at g8jvm.com   or   richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec  2 14:29:45 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 13:29:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] Suggestion on toolbars and gnome 3
In-Reply-To: <20111202131719.1a07847f@g8jvm.com>
References: <20111202123510.638d5b7b@g8jvm.com>
	<20111202131216.34a16311@thewildbeast>
	<20111202131719.1a07847f@g8jvm.com>
Message-ID: <20111202132945.017895d6@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 13:17:19 +0000
Richard <richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: 

> I wish it could be turned off or moved.
> I know its desktop neutral, but it wouldn't hurt to add a space to
> avoid the top LH corner.

Maybe, in Claws, you could set the hidden option 'toolbar_detachable'
to 1 to put a grabble 'handle' on the left on the toolbar?

with regards

Paul


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From jan at lillahusetiskogen.se  Fri Dec  2 15:28:05 2011
From: jan at lillahusetiskogen.se (jan at lillahusetiskogen.se)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 15:28:05 +0100
Subject: [Users] sort order when attaching files
Message-ID: <20111202152805.129ded28@nikolai.lillahusetiskogen.se>

Hi,

I'm not 100% sure, just about 99% that the sort order when selecting
attachments has changed. Maybe it's a setting somewhere, maybe it's a
change to make it behave like silly windows programs.

I see no reason to put folders at the end of the list when selecting
sort by time.
I see no reason that the oldest file is at the top of the list and the
newest at the end.

This is windows behaviour and definitely not what I remember from
earlier versions. But as usual, I may be wrong :o)

Version 3.7.8

System Information
GTK+ 2.24.4 / GLib 2.28.6
Locale: en_US.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8)
Operating System: Linux 2.6.38-11-generic (x86_64)

/Janne


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Fri Dec  2 15:57:26 2011
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 14:57:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] Suggestion on toolbars and gnome 3
In-Reply-To: <20111202123510.638d5b7b@g8jvm.com>
References: <20111202123510.638d5b7b@g8jvm.com>
Message-ID: <20111202145726.6542a03e@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>

On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 12:35:10 +0000
Richard <richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> As a bodge I've put separators to move the "send and "GET Mail" buttons away from the edge, which has
> stopped the accidental hot spot clicks.
> 
> IMO it would be better to add a space on the toolbars on the left side to move buttons away from the hot
> spot.

Surely the correct fix is to get the Gnome 3 developers to realise that
we don't all want the same thing and allow for a lot of preferences to
enable and disable different widgets, hotspots and other annoyances.

-- 

Brian Morrison

                "I am not young enough to know everything"
                                                          Oscar Wilde


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec  2 16:03:56 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 15:03:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] sort order when attaching files
In-Reply-To: <20111202152805.129ded28@nikolai.lillahusetiskogen.se>
References: <20111202152805.129ded28@nikolai.lillahusetiskogen.se>
Message-ID: <20111202150356.35b1a421@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 15:28:05 +0100
<jan at lillahusetiskogen.se> wrote: 

> I'm not 100% sure, just about 99% that the sort order when selecting
> attachments has changed. Maybe it's a setting somewhere, maybe it's
> a change to make it behave like silly windows programs.

I think I can safely say that we would never change anything in CLaws
to "make it behave like silly windows programs". :)

It's the GTK+ file selector, not Claws-specific. And nothing has
changed on the Claws side. OTOH, you are using a version of Claws
that was released a year ago, so perhaps my memory fails me.

with regards

Paul


-- 
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but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From jan at lillahusetiskogen.se  Fri Dec  2 16:34:54 2011
From: jan at lillahusetiskogen.se (jan at lillahusetiskogen.se)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 16:34:54 +0100
Subject: [Users] sort order when attaching files
In-Reply-To: <20111202150356.35b1a421@thewildbeast>
References: <20111202152805.129ded28@nikolai.lillahusetiskogen.se>
	<20111202150356.35b1a421@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20111202163454.07f56d3b@nikolai.lillahusetiskogen.se>

Thank you for your prompt reply.

Good to hear that you would never change anything to make Claws behave
like windows programs. I thought that maybe Claws is cross platform and
that the windows users considered the sorting order a bug.

I will check out the GTK+ file selector and see if I can change some
setting. The version I use is the one that is bundled with Ubuntu 11.04
so I guess it's about a year old.

BR
/Janne


On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 15:03:56 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 15:28:05 +0100
> <jan at lillahusetiskogen.se> wrote: 
> 
> > I'm not 100% sure, just about 99% that the sort order when selecting
> > attachments has changed. Maybe it's a setting somewhere, maybe it's
> > a change to make it behave like silly windows programs.
> 
> I think I can safely say that we would never change anything in CLaws
> to "make it behave like silly windows programs". :)
> 
> It's the GTK+ file selector, not Claws-specific. And nothing has
> changed on the Claws side. OTOH, you are using a version of Claws
> that was released a year ago, so perhaps my memory fails me.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> 
> 


From ciamarie at my180.net  Fri Dec  2 16:47:29 2011
From: ciamarie at my180.net (Cia Watson)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 07:47:29 -0800
Subject: [Users] Suggestion on toolbars and gnome 3
In-Reply-To: <20111202145726.6542a03e@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20111202123510.638d5b7b@g8jvm.com>
	<20111202145726.6542a03e@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20111202074729.576cedf9@amd3c.amd3c.cia>

On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 14:57:26 +0000
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 12:35:10 +0000
> Richard <richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > As a bodge I've put separators to move the "send and "GET Mail" buttons
> > away from the edge, which has stopped the accidental hot spot clicks.
> > 
> > IMO it would be better to add a space on the toolbars on the left side to
> > move buttons away from the hot spot.
> 
> Surely the correct fix is to get the Gnome 3 developers to realise that
> we don't all want the same thing and allow for a lot of preferences to
> enable and disable different widgets, hotspots and other annoyances.
> 

From what I gather from some messages on the Fedora Forums a while back, as
well as visiting the gnome home page, the gnome dev's are the ones who
decided what is needed and have given very few configuration options to the
end user. They're also allegedly not very open to user input. I'm using either
XFCE or KDE for the most part, because I wasn't up for the 'adventure' of
gnome3. I tried to run a Fedora16 livecd to check it out in a virtual
machine, but it went into 'fallback mode'. From what I gather that may
because I have nvidia graphics. :-/

Cia W.


From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Fri Dec  2 17:02:00 2011
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 09:02:00 -0700
Subject: [Users] Suggestion on toolbars and gnome 3
In-Reply-To: <20111202074729.576cedf9@amd3c.amd3c.cia>
References: <20111202123510.638d5b7b@g8jvm.com>
	<20111202145726.6542a03e@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20111202074729.576cedf9@amd3c.amd3c.cia>
Message-ID: <20111202090200.1a780885@yendi>

On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 07:47:29 -0800
Cia Watson <ciamarie at my180.net> wrote:

> I tried to run a Fedora16 livecd to check it out in a virtual
> machine, but it went into 'fallback mode'. From what I gather that may
> because I have nvidia graphics. :-/

It's because you were running on a VM. The fancy toys require real
hardware.

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec  2 17:23:14 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 16:23:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] sort order when attaching files
In-Reply-To: <20111202163454.07f56d3b@nikolai.lillahusetiskogen.se>
References: <20111202152805.129ded28@nikolai.lillahusetiskogen.se>
	<20111202150356.35b1a421@thewildbeast>
	<20111202163454.07f56d3b@nikolai.lillahusetiskogen.se>
Message-ID: <20111202162314.383ba244@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 16:34:54 +0100
<jan at lillahusetiskogen.se> wrote: 

> Good to hear that you would never change anything to make Claws
> behave like windows programs. I thought that maybe Claws is cross
> platform and that the windows users considered the sorting order a
> bug.

It is cross-platform but that's where it ends for me!! ;-p

with regards

Paul


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec  2 23:54:25 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri,  2 Dec 2011 23:54:25 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2555] att_remover plugin crash case
In-Reply-To: <bug-2555-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2555-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111202225425.C49552053A@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2555





--- Comment #1 from Pawel Pekala  2011-12-02 23:54:25 ---
Created an attachment (id=1045)
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probable fix

Does this patch helps?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec  3 02:25:07 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat,  3 Dec 2011 02:25:07 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2481] do not scroll "from" dropdown list and sender
	address
In-Reply-To: <bug-2481-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2481-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111203012507.7E1D22053A@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2481





--- Comment #1 from Christian Hesse  2011-12-03 02:25:07 ---
Created an attachment (id=1046)
 --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1046)
Patch to make the from dropdown list not scroll away

Works for me... [tm]
However no guarantee that it is correct.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec  3 04:00:12 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat,  3 Dec 2011 04:00:12 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2556] New: CM freezes during creation of new filter
Message-ID: <bug-2556-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2556

           Summary: CM freezes during creation of new filter
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: other
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: blocker
          Priority: P3
         Component: Filtering
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: alzurzin at yahoo.com


CM freezes when I attempt to create a mail  filter, every time, under Ubuntu
11.10. Please help.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec  3 10:30:08 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat,  3 Dec 2011 10:30:08 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2556] CM freezes during creation of new filter
In-Reply-To: <bug-2556-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2556-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111203093008.F196720333@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2556


Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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           Severity|blocker                     |normal




--- Comment #1 from Paul  2011-12-03 10:30:08 ---
which version of Claws are you using?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec  3 13:10:32 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat,  3 Dec 2011 13:10:32 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2555] att_remover plugin crash case
In-Reply-To: <bug-2555-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2555-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2555





--- Comment #2 from Pawel Pekala  2011-12-03 13:10:31 ---
As for your build problems, I use script below to build plugins
from cvs, just run it instead of autogen.sh

CLAWS_DIR should point to your claws-mail cvs checkout and
PREFIX probably should be /usr on your system

Also set configure prefix option to your desired destination for binaries
and you should be set ;-)

#!/bin/sh

CLAWS_DIR="/home/corn/projects/claws"
PREFIX="/usr/local"

CFLAGS="-I$PREFIX/include -I$PREFIX/include/gpgme -I$CLAWS_DIR
-I$CLAWS_DIR/src"
CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -I$CLAWS_DIR/src/common -I$CLAWS_DIR/src/gtk"

export LDFLAGS="-L$PREFIX/lib"
export CLAWS_MAIL_CFLAGS="$CFLAGS"

aclocal \
  && libtoolize --copy --force \
  && autoheader \
  && automake --add-missing --foreign --copy \
  && autoconf \
  && ./configure --enable-maintainer-mode \
      --with-libiconv-prefix=$PREFIX \
      --with-libintl-prefix=$PREFIX \
      --prefix=/home/corn/test $@

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec  5 09:53:47 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  5 Dec 2011 09:53:47 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2555] att_remover plugin crash case
In-Reply-To: <bug-2555-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2555-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111205085347.5ABB92042E@paperstreet.colino.net>

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--- Comment #3 from J�r�me  2011-12-05 09:53:46 ---
Hi.

Indeed, the patch fixes the issue. Congratulations.

Thanks for your build script. Actually, I had this error because I had not
"make install"ed claws-mail, I was testing it from its build directory.
Installing it solves that and the autogen.sh works. 

Besides, I couldn't use att_remover on the cvs version of claws-mail : it
complained that it was compiled for an older version. I tested it on my
packaged claws-mail installation. 

Anyway, it worked.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec  5 09:57:05 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  5 Dec 2011 09:57:05 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2555] att_remover plugin crash case
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--- Comment #4 from Colin Leroy  2011-12-05 09:57:05 ---
Thanks Pawel,

Feel free to commit :)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec  5 13:22:15 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  5 Dec 2011 13:22:15 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2557] New: "Total Messages" column is stuck to the
 right-most side of its panel
Message-ID: <bug-2557-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2557

           Summary: "Total Messages" column is stuck to the right-most
                    side of its panel
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.7.10
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Folder List
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: alb348 at gmail.com


The "Total message count" column in the folders panel is currently stuck to the
right-most side of its panel, and cannot be moved to the left. 
This is a problem when the Small Screen Option is selected, because the other
two columns are located just next to the folder's name, while the 'Total'
column stays far away at the right. This is esthetically unpleasant.
Now, if one chose to move the other two columns to the right, to eliminate the
gap between the columns, this would also be a problem, because a considerable
gap would be created between the folder names and the message count columns.
This gap would be huge on large screens, making it inconvenient to rad the
message count after reading the folders name; that is because folders names are
at the left side of the screen and message counts at the rightmost side. It
would be nice to have them all one next to the other. 
Please consider that, while the option "Small Screen" (which is probably a
misnomer) was originally meant for small screens, it can be profitably used on
large screens too. The only glitch is the one I pointed out: the locked
position of the Total messages column.

Please allow the user to move freely to the left the position of the Total
message column.

Please also consider renaming the "Small Screen" layout to "Single Pane"
layout.

Thanks

Alby

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec  5 16:19:04 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  5 Dec 2011 16:19:04 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2557] "Total Messages" column is stuck to the
 right-most side of its panel
In-Reply-To: <bug-2557-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2557-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #1 from Pawel Pekala  2011-12-05 16:19:04 ---
What about View->Set displayed columns-> in Folder list ?

You can set displayed columns and their position/order.

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From dan_arico at aricosystems.com  Mon Dec  5 17:16:17 2011
From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 11:16:17 -0500
Subject: [Users] Attachment Problem
Message-ID: <20111205111617.5dcb1f03.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>

I've received an email with a zip file attachment. I can see in the
message list that the attachment is there, but I can't see it indicated
in the message. I'm new to claws and I know I'm missing something, but
I haven't been able to find it in the documentation.

What do I do to save the attachment to disk?

Dan Arico

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec  5 17:32:49 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  5 Dec 2011 17:32:49 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2557] "Total Messages" column is stuck to the
 right-most side of its panel
In-Reply-To: <bug-2557-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2557-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111205163250.124BE2042E@paperstreet.colino.net>

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--- Comment #2 from alb348  2011-12-05 17:32:49 ---
On 2011-12-05 16:19, noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:
> --- Comment #1 from Pawel Pekala  2011-12-05 16:19:04 ---
> What about View->Set displayed columns-> in Folder list ?
>
> You can set displayed columns and their position/order.

It seems that you have not understood what I meant. What you suggested is a way
to change the order in which columns are set. But I don't need to do that. What
I was talking about is the possibility of having the right-most column moved a
bit to the left (but still as the right-most column - so the order is not
changed), thus detached from the right border of the pane. 
Due to a bug, this is not possible.

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From andy.garcia.216 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 17:39:16 2011
From: andy.garcia.216 at gmail.com (Andy Garcia)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 11:39:16 -0500
Subject: [Users] Putting reply before quote
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1323082801.12681.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
References: <mailman.5.1323082801.12681.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
Message-ID: <20111205113916.00006e2d@unknown>

Hello,

I'm sending this to the user list because I can't find a solution
elsewhere. Is there a way to set claws-mail to put replies before
quotes in an email by default?


From list at eworm.de  Mon Dec  5 17:58:22 2011
From: list at eworm.de (Christian Hesse)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:58:22 +0100
Subject: [Users] Putting reply before quote
In-Reply-To: <20111205113916.00006e2d@unknown>
References: <mailman.5.1323082801.12681.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
	<20111205113916.00006e2d@unknown>
Message-ID: <20111205175822.71d73cc7@leda.vpn.lugor.de>

Andy Garcia <andy.garcia.216 at gmail.com> on Mon, 5 Dec 2011 11:39:16 -0500:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm sending this to the user list because I can't find a solution
> elsewhere. Is there a way to set claws-mail to put replies before
> quotes in an email by default?

Not sure if I understand correctly...
You want to place the cursor before the quote when replying a message?
That's very simple:

Configuration -> Preferences -> Compose -> Templates -> Reply

Then place %X where you would like to have the cursor.
It's also possible to configure this per account.

However this is not what you should do. ;)
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Chris


From neanderix at gmx.de  Mon Dec  5 18:25:08 2011
From: neanderix at gmx.de (Volker Neurath)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 18:25:08 +0100
Subject: [Users] Putting reply before quote
In-Reply-To: <20111205113916.00006e2d@unknown>
References: <mailman.5.1323082801.12681.users@lists.claws-mail.org>
	<20111205113916.00006e2d@unknown>
Message-ID: <20111205182508.2da2868f@volker1>



> I'm sending this to the user list because I can't find a solution
> elsewhere. Is there a way to set claws-mail to put replies before
> quotes in an email by default?

Allthough it is usual especially in business mail, fullquoting is not
what one should do ...

Volker,
 who does not like fullquote-mails


From rol at witbe.net  Mon Dec  5 18:39:44 2011
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 18:39:44 +0100
Subject: [Users] [3.7.10] "Invalid crypto engine" when checking or
 replying...
In-Reply-To: <20111127145922.325dd0b9@thewildbeast>
References: <20111127153732.596d1ae8@tux.DEF.witbe.net>
	<20111127145922.325dd0b9@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20111205183944.56fa5a37@tux.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello,

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 14:59:22 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 15:37:32 +0100
> Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) <rol at witbe.net> wrote: 
> 
> > Is there a know limitation on what can be processed by Claws ?
> > I have PGP/Core, PGP/Inline, PGP/MIME and S/MIME plugins loaded and
> > Claws was compiled using gpgme 1.3.0
> > 
> > What's worse : when I want to reply to such a mail, Claws refused
> > to send the email, with the same "Invalid crypto engine" error
> > until I deselect the "Sign" option...
> 
> gpg2 offers s/mime support, it's not available in gpg1, so I guess
> you don't have gpg2 installed.

OK, I was missing the smime lib that is bundled separately.
Now, I can check signature _BUT_ :
 - Checking the signature results in the following message :
   Good signature (untrusted) from
   1.2.840.113549.1.9.1=#796A6F4077697462652E6E6574 
   The "from" parth is really weird. Checking an email from Colin gives :
   'Good signature (untrusted) from Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>'

 - Replying to such a message gives the following error when clicking Send:
   Could not queue message for sending:
   Signature failed: Secret key not found (End of file)

Is that still something broken on my machine ? Or should I transfer one of
these message privately to some dev. used to GPG/PGP for test ?

Best,
Paul

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From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Mon Dec  5 19:09:56 2011
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 11:09:56 -0700
Subject: [Users] Attachment Problem
In-Reply-To: <20111205111617.5dcb1f03.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
References: <20111205111617.5dcb1f03.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
Message-ID: <20111205110956.28ea8e8d@yendi>

On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 11:16:17 -0500
Dan Arico <dan_arico at aricosystems.com> wrote:

> What do I do to save the attachment to disk?

To the right of the message, you should see an iconized "less than",
then below that, several icons, one for each attachment. Mouse over
those, and tool tips will tell you more about each one. Click on the
relevant icon.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec  5 19:40:03 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon,  5 Dec 2011 19:40:03 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2557] "Total Messages" column is stuck to the
 right-most side of its panel
In-Reply-To: <bug-2557-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2557-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111205184003.6E0602042E@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2557


Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Severity|normal                      |enhancement




--- Comment #3 from Paul  2011-12-05 19:40:03 ---
that's not a bug. change the severity to 'enhancement'

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec  6 00:41:27 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue,  6 Dec 2011 00:41:27 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2558] New: Plugin to encrypt folders?
Message-ID: <bug-2558-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2558

           Summary: Plugin to encrypt folders?
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: other
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: fragabr at gmail.com


Is there any way or a plugin to encrypt a entire folder?

I have some e-mails I want to encrypt, but the sender can't use PGP, so if
there's a way to encrypt a folder and all e-mails inside, it would be nice!

Thanks.

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From johnxj at comcast.net  Tue Dec  6 06:11:02 2011
From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 21:11:02 -0800
Subject: [Users] Firefox 8.0
Message-ID: <20111205211102.60a6884d@mailhost.pdx.edu>

The recent upgrade to Fedora 16, x86_64, came with Firefox 8.0.
Clicking on an e-mail address in Firefox now wants to open Evolution. I
can't find the secret for how to tell it to open a Compose window in
Claws Mail 3.7.10. Does anyone know?


From pf at pfortin.com  Tue Dec  6 06:25:22 2011
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 00:25:22 -0500
Subject: [Users] Firefox 8.0
In-Reply-To: <20111205211102.60a6884d@mailhost.pdx.edu>
References: <20111205211102.60a6884d@mailhost.pdx.edu>
Message-ID: <20111206002522.49955448@pfortin.com>

On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 21:11:02 -0800 John Jason Jordan wrote:

>The recent upgrade to Fedora 16, x86_64, came with Firefox 8.0.
>Clicking on an e-mail address in Firefox now wants to open Evolution. I
>can't find the secret for how to tell it to open a Compose window in
>Claws Mail 3.7.10. Does anyone know?

Same as always...  even in Ff 11.0a1...
Edit->Preferences->Applications->mailto
  change to Other... and browse to CM binary...


From rcook at pcug.org.au  Tue Dec  6 06:50:19 2011
From: rcook at pcug.org.au (Owen)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 16:50:19 +1100
Subject: [Users] Firefox 8.0
In-Reply-To: <20111205211102.60a6884d@mailhost.pdx.edu>
References: <20111205211102.60a6884d@mailhost.pdx.edu>
Message-ID: <3e3282869b909756c9ddc90510e9430c.squirrel@www.tip.net.au>


> The recent upgrade to Fedora 16, x86_64, came with Firefox 8.0.
> Clicking on an e-mail address in Firefox now wants to open Evolution.
> I
> can't find the secret for how to tell it to open a Compose window in
> Claws Mail 3.7.10. Does anyone know?


This may help

http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Changing%20the%20e-mail%20program%20used%20by%20Firefox?s=mail+client&r=0&as=s

Summary

    Send link... from the File menu.
    Send link... from the context (right-click) menu in Firefox.
    A "mailto" or e-mail link on a web page (e.g.,
examples at examples.net).


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec  6 08:30:51 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue,  6 Dec 2011 08:30:51 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2558] Plugin to encrypt folders?
In-Reply-To: <bug-2558-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2558-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111206073051.B1D58201A7@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2558


Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |INVALID




--- Comment #1 from Paul  2011-12-06 08:30:51 ---
Questions such as this should go to the users' mailing list and not to this bug
tracker.

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From johnxj at comcast.net  Tue Dec  6 09:23:32 2011
From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 00:23:32 -0800
Subject: [Users] Firefox 8.0
In-Reply-To: <3e3282869b909756c9ddc90510e9430c.squirrel@www.tip.net.au>
References: <20111205211102.60a6884d@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<3e3282869b909756c9ddc90510e9430c.squirrel@www.tip.net.au>
Message-ID: <20111206002332.701f8eaa@mailhost.pdx.edu>

On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 16:50:19 +1100
"Owen" <rcook at pcug.org.au> dijo:

>
>> The recent upgrade to Fedora 16, x86_64, came with Firefox 8.0.
>> Clicking on an e-mail address in Firefox now wants to open Evolution.
>> I
>> can't find the secret for how to tell it to open a Compose window in
>> Claws Mail 3.7.10. Does anyone know?
>
>
>This may help
>
>http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Changing%20the%20e-mail%20program%20used%20by%20Firefox?s=mail+client&r=0&as=s

That page suggested that Firefox would display the default mail client
that was specified in Preferred Applications, but it does not. I have
long had Claws Mail in the Preferred Applications. I just checked and
it is still there. But the Edit > Preferences > Applications > mailto
option still shows just Evolution (default).

I can select "Use other" which gives me a browser window to find Claws
Mail. At first I selected one of the two .desktop files (one
in /usr/share and one in ~/local/share/applications), but neither would
take. Pierre Fourtin just said to point to the executable, so I did
that instead of the .desktop file, but it still won't "take." No matter
what I do it insists that mail links must be opened in Evolution.


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Tue Dec  6 10:28:23 2011
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:28:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] Firefox 8.0
In-Reply-To: <20111206002332.701f8eaa@mailhost.pdx.edu>
References: <20111205211102.60a6884d@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<3e3282869b909756c9ddc90510e9430c.squirrel@www.tip.net.au>
	<20111206002332.701f8eaa@mailhost.pdx.edu>
Message-ID: <20111206092823.024d7f7b@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>

On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 00:23:32 -0800
John Jason Jordan <johnxj at comcast.net> wrote:

> That page suggested that Firefox would display the default mail client
> that was specified in Preferred Applications, but it does not. I have
> long had Claws Mail in the Preferred Applications. I just checked and
> it is still there. But the Edit > Preferences > Applications > mailto
> option still shows just Evolution (default).

Seems like something worth reporting either in the Fedora Bugzilla or
maybe here if it's related to the Gnome shell:

https://live.gnome.org/EveryDetailMatters

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From ml at lairdutemps.org  Tue Dec  6 16:16:08 2011
From: ml at lairdutemps.org (Daniel Caillibaud)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 16:16:08 +0100
Subject: [Users] Another wish : confirmation before sending
Message-ID: <20111206161608.418b5ad1@quad.lairdutemps.org>

Hi,

I know I should always look carefully at all recipient before sending a mail, but like most
users I not always do...
And when I do, most of the time I don't scroll the recipient list to verify if the one I reply 
does'nt add somebody in the recipient list (it's happen).

Is it a good idea to add a choice in preferences
"ask for confirmation before sending"
- always
- only if more than one recipient
- never

The confirmation dialog could display
- subject
- recipients (one per line, prefix by To or Cc or Bcc), if possible without scrolling
with two buttons
- send
- back to editing

I guess it will be usefull for me (as a reminder "do you really know all the list") but I'm not
so sure it's the case for most (if you don't care about recipient before sending, you'll
probably confirm without reading the dialog box).

So I let everybody give their opinion and developers choose if it's a feature to add or not...

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que c'est dans cette région qu'on boit le plus de cidre.
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From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Tue Dec  6 16:50:41 2011
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 07:50:41 -0800
Subject: [Users] Firefox 8.0
In-Reply-To: <20111206002332.701f8eaa@mailhost.pdx.edu>
References: <20111205211102.60a6884d@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<3e3282869b909756c9ddc90510e9430c.squirrel@www.tip.net.au>
	<20111206002332.701f8eaa@mailhost.pdx.edu>
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On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 00:23:32 -0800
John Jason Jordan <johnxj at comcast.net> wrote:

>That page suggested that Firefox would display the default mail
>client that was specified in Preferred Applications, but it does
>not. I have long had Claws Mail in the Preferred Applications. I
>just checked and it is still there. But the Edit > Preferences >
>Applications > mailto option still shows just Evolution (default).

about:config in the address bar, and filter for mail. You should be
able to set the templates


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From ciamarie at my180.net  Tue Dec  6 16:51:02 2011
From: ciamarie at my180.net (Cia Watson)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 07:51:02 -0800
Subject: [Users] Firefox 8.0
In-Reply-To: <20111206002332.701f8eaa@mailhost.pdx.edu>
References: <20111205211102.60a6884d@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<3e3282869b909756c9ddc90510e9430c.squirrel@www.tip.net.au>
	<20111206002332.701f8eaa@mailhost.pdx.edu>
Message-ID: <20111206075102.1cfce84d@amd3c.amd3c.cia>

On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 00:23:32 -0800
John Jason Jordan <johnxj at comcast.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 16:50:19 +1100
> "Owen" <rcook at pcug.org.au> dijo:
> >
> >> The recent upgrade to Fedora 16, x86_64, came with Firefox 8.0.
> >> Clicking on an e-mail address in Firefox now wants to open Evolution.
> >> I
> >> can't find the secret for how to tell it to open a Compose window in
> >> Claws Mail 3.7.10. Does anyone know?

> That page suggested that Firefox would display the default mail client
> that was specified in Preferred Applications, but it does not. I have
> long had Claws Mail in the Preferred Applications. I just checked and
> it is still there. But the Edit > Preferences > Applications > mailto
> option still shows just Evolution (default).
> 
> I can select "Use other" which gives me a browser window to find Claws
> Mail. At first I selected one of the two .desktop files (one
> in /usr/share and one in ~/local/share/applications), but neither would
> take. 

I just checked mine, in Debian using Iceweasel (FF) v8 also, and it just
shows 'use claws-mail'. There is an option to also select gmail or yahoo mail
if I select 'use other'. At any rate, I would suspect that your claws-mail
should be under /usr/bin and not /usr/share ? Or perhaps just enter
claws-mail. To test it, you could open a terminal and type for instance
claws-mail at the prompt and see if it comes up. If it does it should work to
just enter that, or go to /usr/bin/ at the selection window to see if claws
is there. It should be... ? Then you may need to close FF and re-open for the
change to take effect. 

Cia W.


From johnxj at comcast.net  Tue Dec  6 18:49:13 2011
From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:49:13 -0800
Subject: [Users] Firefox 8.0
In-Reply-To: <20111206092823.024d7f7b@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20111205211102.60a6884d@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<3e3282869b909756c9ddc90510e9430c.squirrel@www.tip.net.au>
	<20111206002332.701f8eaa@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20111206092823.024d7f7b@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20111206094913.2a171af9@mailhost.pdx.edu>

On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:28:23 +0000
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> dijo:

>On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 00:23:32 -0800
>John Jason Jordan <johnxj at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> That page suggested that Firefox would display the default mail
>> client that was specified in Preferred Applications, but it does
>> not. I have long had Claws Mail in the Preferred Applications. I
>> just checked and it is still there. But the Edit > Preferences >
>> Applications > mailto option still shows just Evolution (default).
>
>Seems like something worth reporting either in the Fedora Bugzilla or
>maybe here if it's related to the Gnome shell:
>
>https://live.gnome.org/EveryDetailMatters

Aha! The problem is not yet solved, but your comment caused some
synapses to fire.

I did not think to mention that, just prior to the upgrade from Fedora
14 to Fedora 16 (in anticipation of hating Gnome 3), I installed and
configured Xfce. Gnome is still installed, and I can log in with it if
I choose, but I have never done so since upgrading to Fedora 16. I have
come to love Xfce more than I ever liked Gnome and I have no desire to
go back to Gnome.

Since the desktop environment switch happened at roughly the same time
it could be Xfce that is causing the difficulty. Clicking on a mail
link in a web page is not something that I do very often, so the last
time I did so successfully was in Gnome 2.3.2 on Fedora 14 with Firefox
3.something. It could be the desktop environment switch, the Fedora 16
upgrade, or the Firefox 8.0 update.

Cia Watson: I can launch Claws Mail from a terminal with "claws-mail."
But in the Edit > Preferences > Applications > mailto there is no place
to type in a command. I can select "Use other" and browse for the binary
but, having found the binary, clicking on "open" does not change it from
Evolution. 


From mir at miras.org  Tue Dec  6 19:28:03 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 19:28:03 +0100
Subject: [Users] Firefox 8.0
In-Reply-To: <20111206094913.2a171af9@mailhost.pdx.edu>
References: <20111205211102.60a6884d@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<3e3282869b909756c9ddc90510e9430c.squirrel@www.tip.net.au>
	<20111206002332.701f8eaa@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20111206092823.024d7f7b@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20111206094913.2a171af9@mailhost.pdx.edu>
Message-ID: <20111206192803.69311fb5@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:49:13 -0800
John Jason Jordan <johnxj at comcast.net> wrote:

> 
> Since the desktop environment switch happened at roughly the same time
> it could be Xfce that is causing the difficulty. Clicking on a mail
> link in a web page is not something that I do very often, so the last
> time I did so successfully was in Gnome 2.3.2 on Fedora 14 with Firefox
> 3.something. It could be the desktop environment switch, the Fedora 16
> upgrade, or the Firefox 8.0 update.
> 
XFCE has its own application where to choose preferred applications.
Open a terminal a run this application: xfce4-settings-manager

The choose 'Preferred applications'

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec  6 20:04:36 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue,  6 Dec 2011 20:04:36 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2559] New: In openSUSE 12.1,
 Claws crashes when "fancy" plug-in is loaded.
Message-ID: <bug-2559-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2559

           Summary: In openSUSE 12.1, Claws crashes when "fancy" plug-in
                    is loaded.
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.7.10
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: critical
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Fancy
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: hacker at scarlet-jade.com


Claws without "fancy" starts OK but as soon as I try to load it, a crash
occurs. The problem does not occur in openSUSE 11.4. I've also reported the
problem to openSUSE: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=731022

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec  6 20:05:31 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue,  6 Dec 2011 20:05:31 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2559] In openSUSE 12.1,
 Claws crashes when "fancy" plug-in is loaded.
In-Reply-To: <bug-2559-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2559-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111206190531.2913320476@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2559





--- Comment #1 from Graham P Davis  2011-12-06 20:05:30 ---
Created an attachment (id=1047)
 --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1047)
Crash log

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From littlergirl at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 20:11:20 2011
From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 14:11:20 -0500
Subject: [Users] Another wish : confirmation before sending
In-Reply-To: <20111206161608.418b5ad1@quad.lairdutemps.org>
References: <20111206161608.418b5ad1@quad.lairdutemps.org>
Message-ID: <4ede68d9.056ae00a.1178.2566@mx.google.com>

Hey there,

Daniel Caillibaud wrote:

> Is it a good idea to add a choice in preferences
> "ask for confirmation before sending"
> - always
> - only if more than one recipient
> - never

I'll second this wish. (:

-- 
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There is no spoon.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec  6 20:14:43 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue,  6 Dec 2011 20:14:43 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2559] In openSUSE 12.1,
 Claws crashes when "fancy" plug-in is loaded.
In-Reply-To: <bug-2559-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2559-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111206191443.808EC2042E@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2559


Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Paul  2011-12-06 20:14:43 ---
what version of the plugin and what version of webkit is installed.
The crash log isn't much use because of the stripped binaries.

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec  6 20:17:56 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 19:17:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] Another wish : confirmation before sending
In-Reply-To: <4ede68d9.056ae00a.1178.2566@mx.google.com>
References: <20111206161608.418b5ad1@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<4ede68d9.056ae00a.1178.2566@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <20111206191756.0b24524e@thewildbeast>

On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 14:11:20 -0500
Little Girl <littlergirl at gmail.com> wrote: 

> Daniel Caillibaud wrote:
> 
> > Is it a good idea to add a choice in preferences
> > "ask for confirmation before sending"
> > - always
> > - only if more than one recipient
> > - never  
> 
> I'll second this wish. (:

We already have the option 'Warn before sending queued messages',
does this not suffice?

with regards

Paul


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From littlergirl at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 20:29:06 2011
From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 14:29:06 -0500
Subject: [Users] Another wish : confirmation before sending
In-Reply-To: <20111206191756.0b24524e@thewildbeast>
References: <20111206161608.418b5ad1@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<4ede68d9.056ae00a.1178.2566@mx.google.com>
	<20111206191756.0b24524e@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <4ede6d03.8a1be00a.6e2b.ffff84dd@mx.google.com>

Hey there,

Paul wrote:
> Little Girl wrote: 
> > Daniel Caillibaud wrote:
 
> > > Is it a good idea to add a choice in preferences
> > > "ask for confirmation before sending"
> > > - always
> > > - only if more than one recipient
> > > - never  
 
> > I'll second this wish. (:
 
> We already have the option 'Warn before sending queued messages',
> does this not suffice?

This is about the number of recipients on a message. For instance,
someone sends a message to the Claws list and has the list and
themselves on it as recipients. I reply and send it immediately
without even realizing there's more than one recipient, so my reply
just goes to the list and doesn't CC the sender. The queued messages
option wouldn't prevent that, but the above wish would. (:

-- 
Little Girl

There is no spoon.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec  6 22:58:05 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue,  6 Dec 2011 22:58:05 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2559] In openSUSE 12.1,
 Claws crashes when "fancy" plug-in is loaded.
In-Reply-To: <bug-2559-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2559-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111206215805.D73312042E@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2559





--- Comment #3 from Graham P Davis  2011-12-06 22:58:05 ---
Plugins are in a package "claws-mail-extra-plugins," version 3.7.10-36.9
As to webkit, I'm not sure which module you need (of seven).
kwebkitpart: 1.2.0git20111019-1.2
libQTWebKit4: 4.7.4+2.2.0-2.1.2
libwebkitgtk-1_0-0; libwebkitgtk-3_0-0: 1.6.1-2.1.2

Running from command line gave the following error:
** (claws-mail:5891): WARNING **: plugin loading error:
/usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/fancy.so: undefined symbol:
webkit_web_view_get_selected_text

I'm now installing all debug packages and by the time that's finished -
tomorrow - I'll try another run.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec  6 23:10:50 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue,  6 Dec 2011 23:10:50 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2559] In openSUSE 12.1,
 Claws crashes when "fancy" plug-in is loaded.
In-Reply-To: <bug-2559-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2559-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111206221050.BADF72042E@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2559





--- Comment #4 from Ricardo Mones  2011-12-06 23:10:50 ---
Yet another duplicate of
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2507

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec  6 23:16:41 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue,  6 Dec 2011 23:16:41 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2481] do not scroll "from" dropdown list and sender
	address
In-Reply-To: <bug-2481-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2481-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111206221641.DBF192042E@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2481


Christian Hesse <mail at earthworm.de> changed:

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         OS/Version|Linux                       |All




--- Comment #2 from Christian Hesse  2011-12-06 23:16:41 ---
Using this for some days now without problems.
The patch seems to be ok. ;)

Will anybody pick it up here or where do I have to send it?

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From lainecliff at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 23:18:12 2011
From: lainecliff at gmail.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 22:18:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] Test message
Message-ID: <CAAdPkhXGaZoj3b02A=Ufvr4Sg_3j_uHPNF9LJFJ4kmf3=EzR2w@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry if this appears on the list but I have had difficulty in posting.
Please ignore this if it arrives and accept my apologies for the
clutter.

Cliff


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec  6 23:47:14 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue,  6 Dec 2011 23:47:14 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2559] In openSUSE 12.1,
 Claws crashes when "fancy" plug-in is loaded.
In-Reply-To: <bug-2559-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2559-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111206224714.4A2DB2042E@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2559


Salvatore De Paolis <iwkse at claws-mail.org> changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |DUPLICATE




--- Comment #5 from Salvatore De Paolis  2011-12-06 23:47:13 ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 2507 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec  6 23:47:14 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue,  6 Dec 2011 23:47:14 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2507] fancy plugin doesn't load with latest webkit ;
 webkit_web_view_get_selected_text undefined
In-Reply-To: <bug-2507-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2507-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2507


Salvatore De Paolis <iwkse at claws-mail.org> changed:

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                 CC|                            |hacker at scarlet-jade.com




--- Comment #10 from Salvatore De Paolis  2011-12-06 23:47:13 ---
*** Bug 2559 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From pf at pfortin.com  Tue Dec  6 23:55:31 2011
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 17:55:31 -0500
Subject: [Users] Another wish : confirmation before sending
In-Reply-To: <20111206191756.0b24524e@thewildbeast>
References: <20111206161608.418b5ad1@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<4ede68d9.056ae00a.1178.2566@mx.google.com>
	<20111206191756.0b24524e@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20111206175531.3a445bfe@pfortin.com>

On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 19:17:56 +0000 Paul wrote:

>On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 14:11:20 -0500
>Little Girl <littlergirl at gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>> Daniel Caillibaud wrote:
>> 
>> > Is it a good idea to add a choice in preferences
>> > "ask for confirmation before sending"
>> > - always
>> > - only if more than one recipient
>> > - never  
>> 
>> I'll second this wish. (:
>
>We already have the option 'Warn before sending queued messages',
>does this not suffice?

Doesn't the button just to the right of Send solve their issue?

    Send Later:  works for always & only if...
    Send: works for never...

:)



From brad at fineby.me.uk  Tue Dec  6 20:45:21 2011
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 19:45:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] Another wish : confirmation before sending
In-Reply-To: <4ede6d03.8a1be00a.6e2b.ffff84dd@mx.google.com>
References: <20111206161608.418b5ad1@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<4ede68d9.056ae00a.1178.2566@mx.google.com>
	<20111206191756.0b24524e@thewildbeast>
	<4ede6d03.8a1be00a.6e2b.ffff84dd@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <20111206194521.2961f361@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 14:29:06 -0500
Little Girl <littlergirl at gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Little,

> without even realizing there's more than one recipient, so my reply
> just goes to the list and doesn't CC the sender. The queued messages

I've never understood the need to CC somebody on a mailing list, TBH.  I
know not all lists require readers to subscribe (the OOo list comes to
mind) but surely, if anyone posting a question can make the effort to
do that, they ought to make the effort to read the replies.

My view is that a mailing list is like chatting to people in a bar, and
email is like coming to my house:  I chat to all sorts of people in the
bar, but I wouldn't all of them coming round to my house, uninvited, to
repeat everything they said in the bar.  IMO, it's rude.

-- 
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        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
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From johnxj at comcast.net  Wed Dec  7 00:39:11 2011
From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 15:39:11 -0800
Subject: [Users] Firefox 8.0
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References: <20111205211102.60a6884d@mailhost.pdx.edu>
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On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 19:28:03 +0100
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> dijo:

>On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:49:13 -0800
>John Jason Jordan <johnxj at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Since the desktop environment switch happened at roughly the same
>> time it could be Xfce that is causing the difficulty. Clicking on a
>> mail link in a web page is not something that I do very often, so
>> the last time I did so successfully was in Gnome 2.3.2 on Fedora 14
>> with Firefox 3.something. It could be the desktop environment
>> switch, the Fedora 16 upgrade, or the Firefox 8.0 update.

>XFCE has its own application where to choose preferred applications.
>Open a terminal a run this application: xfce4-settings-manager
>
>The choose 'Preferred applications'

Thanks for pointing that out. I already knew about the Settings
Manager, but had forgotten that it had a Preferred Applications menu.

Unfortunately, it was already set to Claws Mail. I re-set it, this time
manually by typing in the name and path of the executable, but it
didn't make any difference. Firefox 8.0 still only allows me to choose
Evolution.

However, a local user who has Fedora 16 and Claws Mail has the option
of selecting Claws Mail in the Firefox dropdown button in Edit >
Preferences > Applications > mailto. He didn't say what DE he was
using, but I asked back. If he's using Xfce then we can rule out Xfce
as the source of the problem. 


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Wed Dec  7 01:00:47 2011
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 01:00:47 +0100
Subject: [Users] Firefox 8.0
In-Reply-To: <20111206153911.38ed7c0e@mailhost.pdx.edu>
References: <20111205211102.60a6884d@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<3e3282869b909756c9ddc90510e9430c.squirrel@www.tip.net.au>
	<20111206002332.701f8eaa@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20111206092823.024d7f7b@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20111206094913.2a171af9@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20111206192803.69311fb5@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111206153911.38ed7c0e@mailhost.pdx.edu>
Message-ID: <20111207010047.60938421@mirrors.kernel.org>

I'm using iceweasel 8 (which basically should be the same as ff8) and i can change the mailto handler in the GUI application manager to anything else. It's a NextStep-Clone DE (as far from XFCE or Gnome as another solar system.)

Try this:

(1) cd into your firefrox home folder under ~/.mozilla (it's not the 'default' one)
/(2) grep Evolution *

For me it is

mimeTypes.rdf:                   NC:prettyName="claws-mail"
mimeTypes.rdf:                   NC:path="/usr/bin/claws-mail" />
mimeTypes.rdf:  <RDF:Description RDF:about="urn:handler:local:/usr/bin/claws-mail"
mimeTypes.rdf:                   NC:prettyName="claws-mail"
mimeTypes.rdf:                   NC:path="/usr/bin/claws-mail" />
mimeTypes.rdf:    <NC:possibleApplication RDF:resource="urn:handler:local:/usr/bin/claws

If the GUI manager does not work try hacking the file.


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Wed Dec  7 01:02:54 2011
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 01:02:54 +0100
Subject: [Users] Firefox 8.0
In-Reply-To: <20111207010047.60938421@mirrors.kernel.org>
References: <20111205211102.60a6884d@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<3e3282869b909756c9ddc90510e9430c.squirrel@www.tip.net.au>
	<20111206002332.701f8eaa@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20111206092823.024d7f7b@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20111206094913.2a171af9@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20111206192803.69311fb5@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111206153911.38ed7c0e@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20111207010047.60938421@mirrors.kernel.org>
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> mimeTypes.rdf:  

Ah, entry is double because i tried the 'use other' with claws at some point.


From littlergirl at gmail.com  Wed Dec  7 01:27:17 2011
From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 19:27:17 -0500
Subject: [Users] Another wish : confirmation before sending
In-Reply-To: <20111206194521.2961f361@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20111206161608.418b5ad1@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<4ede68d9.056ae00a.1178.2566@mx.google.com>
	<20111206191756.0b24524e@thewildbeast>
	<4ede6d03.8a1be00a.6e2b.ffff84dd@mx.google.com>
	<20111206194521.2961f361@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <4edeb2e6.056ae00a.1178.530e@mx.google.com>

Hey there,

Brad Rogers wrote:
> Little Girl wrote:
 
> > without even realizing there's more than one recipient, so my
> > reply just goes to the list and doesn't CC the sender. The queued
> > messages
 
> I've never understood the need to CC somebody on a mailing list,
> TBH.

Me neither, but I thought about it a bit and came up with a couple of
scenarios in which it could maybe be useful:

1) Let's say that you have two email accounts - a home and work
account - and you check each one from its location. You write a
message to the mailing list from your home account, setting a CC for
your work account. You then go to work. On a break you check your
work account, and you can see (from the CC that you just got) that
your mailing list message got a reply, and you can look it over if
you like.

2) Let's say you are on a mailing list that occasionally discusses
something that interests one of your friends or family members. They
ask you to send them copies of any message like that.

There are probably lots of other reasons why people do it. (:

-- 
Little Girl

There is no spoon.


From johnxj at comcast.net  Wed Dec  7 05:26:13 2011
From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 20:26:13 -0800
Subject: [Users] Firefox 8.0
In-Reply-To: <20111207010047.60938421@mirrors.kernel.org>
References: <20111205211102.60a6884d@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<3e3282869b909756c9ddc90510e9430c.squirrel@www.tip.net.au>
	<20111206002332.701f8eaa@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20111206092823.024d7f7b@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20111206094913.2a171af9@mailhost.pdx.edu>
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	<20111206153911.38ed7c0e@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20111207010047.60938421@mirrors.kernel.org>
Message-ID: <20111206202613.50dc5b5b@mailhost.pdx.edu>

On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 01:00:47 +0100
Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> dijo:

>I'm using iceweasel 8 (which basically should be the same as ff8) and
>i can change the mailto handler in the GUI application manager to
>anything else. It's a NextStep-Clone DE (as far from XFCE or Gnome as
>another solar system.)
>
>Try this:
>
>(1) cd into your firefrox home folder under ~/.mozilla (it's not the
>'default' one) /(2) grep Evolution *

I have only one ~/.mozilla folder. What did you mean by "it's not the
default"?

>For me it is
>
>mimeTypes.rdf:                   NC:prettyName="claws-mail"
>mimeTypes.rdf:                   NC:path="/usr/bin/claws-mail" />
>mimeTypes.rdf:  <RDF:Description
>RDF:about="urn:handler:local:/usr/bin/claws-mail"
>mimeTypes.rdf:                   NC:prettyName="claws-mail"
>mimeTypes.rdf:                   NC:path="/usr/bin/claws-mail" />
>mimeTypes.rdf:    <NC:possibleApplication
>RDF:resource="urn:handler:local:/usr/bin/claws

I must be doing something wrong. Perhaps I misunderstood your
instructions:

[jjj at Devil8 .mozilla]$ grep Evolution*
^Z
[5]+  Stopped                 grep --color=auto Evolution*

I killed it after 20 minutes. The hard disk light never came on and my
CPU monitors didn't budge, so I assumed it was stuck and doing nothing. 

>If the GUI manager does not work try hacking the file.

Was I supposed to be using a GUI manager? Which one? I was using a
terminal.

I don't understand the specific meaning of "hacking." 

I think my brain failed to grep a basic instruction at the beginning of
what you said.


From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Wed Dec  7 05:58:01 2011
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 21:58:01 -0700
Subject: [Users] Firefox 8.0
In-Reply-To: <20111206202613.50dc5b5b@mailhost.pdx.edu>
References: <20111205211102.60a6884d@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<3e3282869b909756c9ddc90510e9430c.squirrel@www.tip.net.au>
	<20111206002332.701f8eaa@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20111206092823.024d7f7b@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
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	<20111206202613.50dc5b5b@mailhost.pdx.edu>
Message-ID: <20111206215801.47194836@yendi>

On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 20:26:13 -0800
John Jason Jordan <johnxj at comcast.net> wrote:

> [jjj at Devil8 .mozilla]$ grep Evolution*
> ^Z
> [5]+  Stopped                 grep --color=auto Evolution*
> 
> I killed it after 20 minutes. The hard disk light never came on and my
> CPU monitors didn't budge, so I assumed it was stuck and doing
> nothing. 

You miss-typed the instruction. Had you copied & pasted, you would have
gotten:

grep Evolution *
              ^
              |

Note the space.

An exercise for the student, what's the difference between what you
entered and the original instruction?



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From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Wed Dec  7 06:37:22 2011
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 22:37:22 -0700
Subject: [Users] Firefox 8.0
In-Reply-To: <20111206202613.50dc5b5b@mailhost.pdx.edu>
References: <20111205211102.60a6884d@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<3e3282869b909756c9ddc90510e9430c.squirrel@www.tip.net.au>
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On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 20:26:13 -0800
John Jason Jordan <johnxj at comcast.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 01:00:47 +0100
> Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> dijo:
> 
> >I'm using iceweasel 8 (which basically should be the same as ff8) and
> >i can change the mailto handler in the GUI application manager to
> >anything else. It's a NextStep-Clone DE (as far from XFCE or Gnome as
> >another solar system.)
> >
> >Try this:
> >
> >(1) cd into your firefrox home folder under ~/.mozilla (it's not the
> >'default' one) /(2) grep Evolution *
> 
> I have only one ~/.mozilla folder. What did you mean by "it's not the
> default"?

$ ls ~/.mozilla/
extensions  firefox

So he probably means something in ~/.mozilla/firefox. So:

Crash Reports  garbage.default  profiles.ini

where "garbage" is a string of different characters in each user on
each machine. So try:

cd ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default

> 
> >For me it is
> >
> >mimeTypes.rdf:                   NC:prettyName="claws-mail"
> >mimeTypes.rdf:                   NC:path="/usr/bin/claws-mail" />
> >mimeTypes.rdf:  <RDF:Description
> >RDF:about="urn:handler:local:/usr/bin/claws-mail"
> >mimeTypes.rdf:                   NC:prettyName="claws-mail"
> >mimeTypes.rdf:                   NC:path="/usr/bin/claws-mail" />
> >mimeTypes.rdf:    <NC:possibleApplication
> >RDF:resource="urn:handler:local:/usr/bin/claws
> 
> I must be doing something wrong. Perhaps I misunderstood your
> instructions:
> 
> [jjj at Devil8 .mozilla]$ grep Evolution*
> ^Z
> [5]+  Stopped                 grep --color=auto Evolution*
> 
> I killed it after 20 minutes. The hard disk light never came on and my
> CPU monitors didn't budge, so I assumed it was stuck and doing
> nothing. 

It should have been:

$ grep Evolution *

and I get:

grep: lock: No such file or directory
Binary file places.sqlite.corrupt matches

This is on Ubuntu 11.04 running Gnome. I select my mail reader using
Gnome's application selector. So I get a different result than Michael
did. On my system firefox has no preference for a mail reader, and (I
assume) queries Gnome. So my result, two spurious lines, is reasonable.

However, Michael's result shows that he found what he wanted in the
file mimeTypes.rdf.

> 
> >If the GUI manager does not work try hacking the file.
> 
> Was I supposed to be using a GUI manager? Which one? I was using a
> terminal.
> 
> I don't understand the specific meaning of "hacking." 

He means edit mimeTypes.rdf, replacing every instance of the
fully qualified path to Evolution with the fully qualified path to
claws-mail. That will be the results of the command

which claws-mail

(On my system: /usr/bin/claws-mail.)

> 
> I think my brain failed to grep a basic instruction at the beginning
> of what you said.

I think Michael expected you to be more knowledgeable about general
Unix command line hacking. On this list, this expectation is not
unreasonable.

http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/H/hack.html

> _______________________________________________
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> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users



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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Wed Dec  7 09:19:56 2011
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 08:19:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] Another wish : confirmation before sending
In-Reply-To: <4edeb2e6.056ae00a.1178.530e@mx.google.com>
References: <20111206161608.418b5ad1@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<4ede68d9.056ae00a.1178.2566@mx.google.com>
	<20111206191756.0b24524e@thewildbeast>
	<4ede6d03.8a1be00a.6e2b.ffff84dd@mx.google.com>
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	<4edeb2e6.056ae00a.1178.530e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <20111207081956.1b7853f9@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 19:27:17 -0500
Little Girl <littlergirl at gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Little,

> Brad Rogers wrote:
> > I've never understood the need to CC somebody on a mailing list,
> > TBH.  
> Me neither, but I thought about it a bit and came up with a couple of
> scenarios in which it could maybe be useful:

Okay, I'll concede that in those circumstances, CC'ing may be useful
(although not to me).  I was obviously not sufficiently explicit.  I
didn't mean where the OP sets a CC (that's up to them), I meant when
somebody replying CC's the OP, even though the OP reads the list.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
Tired of doing day jobs with no thanks for what I do
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From codejodler at gmx.ch  Wed Dec  7 13:03:53 2011
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 13:03:53 +0100
Subject: [Users] Firefox 8.0
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...what a mess :)

~ mi: cd .mozilla
~/.mozilla mi: ls
appreg  default  extensions  firefox  pluginreg.dat

There is the 'default' folder. It's not this one, but the 'firefox' one.

~/.mozilla mi: cd firefox/

~/.mozilla/firefox mi: ls

0x77fltk.default  pluginreg.dat  profiles.ini

~/.mozilla/firefox mi: grep  mailto  0x77fltk.default/mimeTypes.rdf 

Now use any editor to modify that file. How about 'sed -i' huh :)

The GUI is the Graphical User Interface, that's just what you call 'the firefox'. The mimetype GUI manager is the dialog in the Preferences.

To understand why your grep did nothing try this: 'grep 123' then type in 123 <ENTER>

Anything left....ah, 'hacking': .... in this case, means choosing a shortcut (editing a config directly) where official ways (the GUI) seem to be nonfunctional.

Tell us if it worked :)






From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec  7 15:43:01 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed,  7 Dec 2011 15:43:01 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2481] do not scroll "from" dropdown list and sender
	address
In-Reply-To: <bug-2481-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2481-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111207144301.795322042E@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2481





--- Comment #3 from wwp  2011-12-07 15:43:01 ---
Good idea. I personally use the slider down to show 3 lines, I rarely need to
see more, so I never feel uncomfortable w/ a from header being scrolled up.
To me, the padding below from needs 1 or 2 pixels more, it's like if widgets
are pasted in an usual way when the recipients view below is scrolled.

-- 
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From littlergirl at gmail.com  Wed Dec  7 16:58:01 2011
From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 10:58:01 -0500
Subject: [Users] Another wish : confirmation before sending
In-Reply-To: <20111207081956.1b7853f9@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20111206161608.418b5ad1@quad.lairdutemps.org>
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	<20111207081956.1b7853f9@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <4edf8d0a.c3bde00a.13f4.5cc5@mx.google.com>

Hey there,

Brad Rogers wrote:
> Little Girl wrote:
> > Brad Rogers wrote:
> > > I've never understood the need to CC somebody on a mailing list,
> > > TBH.  
> > Me neither, but I thought about it a bit and came up with a
> > couple of scenarios in which it could maybe be useful:
> 
> Okay, I'll concede that in those circumstances, CC'ing may be useful
> (although not to me).  I was obviously not sufficiently explicit.  I
> didn't mean where the OP sets a CC (that's up to them), I meant when
> somebody replying CC's the OP, even though the OP reads the list.

I can't think of any reason why anyone would do that without having
been asked, and I can definitely say I've never done it. (:

-- 
Little Girl

There is no spoon.


From claws-mail.user at seibercom.net  Wed Dec  7 18:22:01 2011
From: claws-mail.user at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 12:22:01 -0500
Subject: [Users] Another wish : confirmation before sending
In-Reply-To: <4edf8d0a.c3bde00a.13f4.5cc5@mx.google.com>
References: <20111206161608.418b5ad1@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<4ede68d9.056ae00a.1178.2566@mx.google.com>
	<20111206191756.0b24524e@thewildbeast>
	<4ede6d03.8a1be00a.6e2b.ffff84dd@mx.google.com>
	<20111206194521.2961f361@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<4edeb2e6.056ae00a.1178.530e@mx.google.com>
	<20111207081956.1b7853f9@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<4edf8d0a.c3bde00a.13f4.5cc5@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <20111207122201.42065b44@scorpio>

On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 10:58:01 -0500
Little Girl articulated:

> Brad Rogers wrote:
> > Little Girl wrote:
> > > Brad Rogers wrote:
> > > > I've never understood the need to CC somebody on a mailing list,
> > > > TBH.  
> > > Me neither, but I thought about it a bit and came up with a
> > > couple of scenarios in which it could maybe be useful:
> > 
> > Okay, I'll concede that in those circumstances, CC'ing may be useful
> > (although not to me).  I was obviously not sufficiently explicit.  I
> > didn't mean where the OP sets a CC (that's up to them), I meant when
> > somebody replying CC's the OP, even though the OP reads the list.
> 
> I can't think of any reason why anyone would do that without having
> been asked, and I can definitely say I've never done it. (:

I never fails to amaze me though how many times that has happened to
me. I have had some morons on the FreeBSD list that actually claim it
is the correct protocol. Seriously pathetic. It is the primary reason I
worded my signature disclaimer the way I have.


-- 
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From johnxj at comcast.net  Wed Dec  7 19:14:51 2011
From: johnxj at comcast.net (John Jason Jordan)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 10:14:51 -0800
Subject: [Users] (SOLVED) Re:  Firefox 8.0
In-Reply-To: <20111207130353.4be664bd@mirrors.kernel.org>
References: <20111205211102.60a6884d@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<3e3282869b909756c9ddc90510e9430c.squirrel@www.tip.net.au>
	<20111206002332.701f8eaa@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20111206092823.024d7f7b@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20111206094913.2a171af9@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20111206192803.69311fb5@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111206153911.38ed7c0e@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20111207010047.60938421@mirrors.kernel.org>
	<20111206202613.50dc5b5b@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20111206215801.47194836@yendi>
	<20111207130353.4be664bd@mirrors.kernel.org>
Message-ID: <20111207101451.323854a7@mailhost.pdx.edu>

On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 13:03:53 +0100
Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> dijo:

>...what a mess :)

 <instructions snipped>

>Tell us if it worked :)

Got it! Thanks for the details.

I finally found the correct file (...mhhcgjb9.default/mimeTypes.rdf). I
started by making a copy for safety, then opening it in nano, but
finally decided that Gedit would be easier (it is a long file). I
searched on *volution, expecting that it would point to Evolution, but
found nothing. Eventually it occurred to me to search on "mailto." That
resulted in several locations, including the following:

<RDF:Description RDF:about="urn:scheme:externalApplication:mailto"
NC:prettyName="Claws Mail" NC:path="/usr/bin/claws-mail" />
  <RDF:Description RDF:about="urn:scheme:ircs"
                   NC:value="ircs">
    <NC:handlerProp RDF:resource="urn:scheme:handler:ircs"/>
  </RDF:Description>

Originally the prettyName line pointed to
~/.local/share/Claws-Mail.desktop. I changed it to the binary (as
above), and it is now working as it is supposed to. And in Edit >
Preferences > Applications > mailto the dropdown is now set to "use
claws-mail."

Reading through the mimeTypes.rdf file I found tons of references
that are probably wrong. For example, PDFs point to Adobe Reader 8
installed in my home folder, but I currrently have version 9. And there
were hundreds of references to various components of OpenOffice.org,
which I uninstalled and replaced with LibreOffice after the upgrade
from Fedora 14 to Fedora 16. Now that I know where the mimeTypes.rdf
file is I may be able to fix some of these other issues.


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Wed Dec  7 21:38:35 2011
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 21:38:35 +0100
Subject: [Users] (SOLVED) Re:  Firefox 8.0
In-Reply-To: <20111207101451.323854a7@mailhost.pdx.edu>
References: <20111205211102.60a6884d@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<3e3282869b909756c9ddc90510e9430c.squirrel@www.tip.net.au>
	<20111206002332.701f8eaa@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20111206092823.024d7f7b@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20111206094913.2a171af9@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20111206192803.69311fb5@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111206153911.38ed7c0e@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20111207010047.60938421@mirrors.kernel.org>
	<20111206202613.50dc5b5b@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20111206215801.47194836@yendi>
	<20111207130353.4be664bd@mirrors.kernel.org>
	<20111207101451.323854a7@mailhost.pdx.edu>
Message-ID: <20111207213835.77eac40d@mirrors.kernel.org>

What you can do is find a correct mimetypes file somewhere online or ask in a firefox forum for it. Then just replace it. 




From codejodler at gmx.ch  Wed Dec  7 21:59:39 2011
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 21:59:39 +0100
Subject: [Users] (SOLVED) Re:  Firefox 8.0
In-Reply-To: <20111207213835.77eac40d@mirrors.kernel.org>
References: <20111205211102.60a6884d@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<3e3282869b909756c9ddc90510e9430c.squirrel@www.tip.net.au>
	<20111206002332.701f8eaa@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20111206092823.024d7f7b@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20111206094913.2a171af9@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20111206192803.69311fb5@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111206153911.38ed7c0e@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20111207010047.60938421@mirrors.kernel.org>
	<20111206202613.50dc5b5b@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20111206215801.47194836@yendi>
	<20111207130353.4be664bd@mirrors.kernel.org>
	<20111207101451.323854a7@mailhost.pdx.edu>
	<20111207213835.77eac40d@mirrors.kernel.org>
Message-ID: <20111207215939.516ce770@mirrors.kernel.org>


ps. 

When you delete the file, it gets re-generated according to system or user defaults. Then set anything to 'always ask' and if the dialog comes up, check 'do this always'. You might want to install mozplugger.



From dan_arico at aricosystems.com  Wed Dec  7 22:10:49 2011
From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 16:10:49 -0500
Subject: [Users] Open With Option
Message-ID: <20111207161049.181aa332.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>

Is there a way to open attachments according to the type of file? It
appears that when I click on "open", it uses whichever application I
last used.

Dan Arico

-- 
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One OS to bring them all, and in the Darkness bind them,
In the land of Redmond, where the Sales Reps lie.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec  7 23:15:30 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed,  7 Dec 2011 23:15:30 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2481] do not scroll "from" dropdown list and sender
	address
In-Reply-To: <bug-2481-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2481-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111207221530.CC2BD2042E@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2481





--- Comment #4 from Ricardo Mones  2011-12-07 23:15:30 ---
Agreed, wwp, a couple of pixels between the from and the scrolled window makes
it look better.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec  7 23:36:55 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed,  7 Dec 2011 23:36:55 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2481] do not scroll "from" dropdown list and sender
	address
In-Reply-To: <bug-2481-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #5 from Ricardo Mones  2011-12-07 23:36:54 ---
Created an attachment (id=1048)
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Added 2 extra pixels

BTW, the modified patch ;-)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec  8 08:42:29 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu,  8 Dec 2011 08:42:29 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2481] do not scroll "from" dropdown list and sender
	address
In-Reply-To: <bug-2481-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2481-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #6 from wwp  2011-12-08 08:42:29 ---
Better, thanks!

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec  8 10:02:36 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu,  8 Dec 2011 10:02:36 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2481] do not scroll "from" dropdown list and sender
	address
In-Reply-To: <bug-2481-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2481-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #7 from users  2011-12-08 10:02:35 ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest CVS and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://www.colino.net/claws-mail/

2011-12-08 [wwp]    3.7.10cvs110

    * src/compose.c
    Make "From" widget set independant from recipient lists below,
    so that it doesn't scroll when several recipients headers
    are added and eventually are scrolling the view.
    Path by Christian Hesse <mail at earthworm.de>.
    Fixes bug #2481 'do not scroll "from" dropdown list and sender
    address'.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec  8 10:07:14 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu,  8 Dec 2011 10:07:14 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2481] do not scroll "from" dropdown list and sender
	address
In-Reply-To: <bug-2481-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2481-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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wwp <subscript at free.fr> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |FIXED




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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Wed Dec  7 19:19:20 2011
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 18:19:20 +0000
Subject: [Users] Another wish : confirmation before sending
In-Reply-To: <4edf8d0a.c3bde00a.13f4.5cc5@mx.google.com>
References: <20111206161608.418b5ad1@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<4ede68d9.056ae00a.1178.2566@mx.google.com>
	<20111206191756.0b24524e@thewildbeast>
	<4ede6d03.8a1be00a.6e2b.ffff84dd@mx.google.com>
	<20111206194521.2961f361@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<4edeb2e6.056ae00a.1178.530e@mx.google.com>
	<20111207081956.1b7853f9@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<4edf8d0a.c3bde00a.13f4.5cc5@mx.google.com>
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On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 10:58:01 -0500
Little Girl <littlergirl at gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Little,

> I can't think of any reason why anyone would do that without having
> been asked, and I can definitely say I've never done it. (:

Happens on several lists I'm on.   As Jerry says, some people insist
it's the "correct" thing to do.  I'm told some lists make it policy.

I know why some people do it;  The "Reply All", rather than "Reply List"
thinking they're the same thing, or because that's the only way they can
get the list address up in the To: field.  They're then too lazy to
delete the CC:, or other To: of the OP.

The worst scenario is when I reply to somebody's question, then somebody
else replies to my message, but is /actually/ replying to the OP.
Totally asinine, and shows they've spent too long in web forums.

-- 
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        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
It's not your heart, it's your bank I want to break
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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Thu Dec  8 09:05:10 2011
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 08:05:10 +0000
Subject: [Users] Open With Option
In-Reply-To: <20111207161049.181aa332.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
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On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 16:10:49 -0500
Dan Arico <dan_arico at aricosystems.com> wrote:

Hello Dan,

> Is there a way to open attachments according to the type of file? It
> appears that when I click on "open", it uses whichever application I
> last used.

Use "Open With...." choose the app you wish to use, then set "Remember
this".

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec  8 12:44:35 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu,  8 Dec 2011 12:44:35 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2385] Claws hangs with 100% CPU usage when attempting
 to load HTML mail
In-Reply-To: <bug-2385-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2385-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #6 from Torsten Luettgert  2011-12-08 12:44:34 ---
Hello? Does anyone ever look at this? By now, claws-mail hangs on each and
every mail from three sources (tomtom, alice dsl, some social network).

I guess it's time to have another look at evo again, at least it sucks less
hard than thunderbird... :-(

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec  8 13:13:54 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu,  8 Dec 2011 13:13:54 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2385] Claws hangs with 100% CPU usage when attempting
 to load HTML mail
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--- Comment #7 from Ricardo Mones  2011-12-08 13:13:54 ---
Mail is rendered without problem here, using latest CVS and fancy plugin.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec  8 14:16:57 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu,  8 Dec 2011 14:16:57 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2385] Claws hangs with 100% CPU usage when attempting
 to load HTML mail
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--- Comment #8 from Torsten Luettgert  2011-12-08 14:16:57 ---
Yes, that's probably because fancy uses webkit instead of gtkhtml.

I tried the latest released version now, and there's some progress there also -
the tomtom mails are now rendered without hang. The Alice DSL mails still cause
it to hang (I can attach one if the devs are interested).

But since one can now choose between gtkhtml2, dillo and webkit, I switched to
webkit (fancy plugin) which renders those two mails ok. I'll check the third
kind once one arrives again.

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From rendeerflotilla at googlemail.com  Thu Dec  8 16:59:41 2011
From: rendeerflotilla at googlemail.com (Lioba Kiwitz)
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 16:59:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] claws segfaults
Message-ID: <2062778.huROalzhEb@aldebaran>

while trying to log in to newsgroup.
Version is 3,7,10 on Gentoo linux kernel gentoo-sources-3.1.1

When I start claws on the console I get this error message:

claws-mail

** (claws-mail:4229): WARNING **: [16:49:17] Error logging in to news.t-
online.de:119 ...

Segmentation fault

I remember a bug exists for this issue but cannot find it. But I also
remember that this bug had been closed/resolved.
It has resurfaced.

Does anyone have a fix?

Regards


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec  8 17:18:05 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu,  8 Dec 2011 17:18:05 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2560] New: crash when unsubscribing newsgroup and
 having active search field
Message-ID: <bug-2560-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2560

           Summary: crash when unsubscribing newsgroup and having active
                    search field
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.7.10
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: NNTP
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: gour at atmarama.net


Created an attachment (id=1049)
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gdb backtrace of the crash

Hello!

1. enter into some newsgroup, 

2. enter something in a 'search field' (From/to/Subject/Tag),

3. unsubscribe the current newsgroup

4. press 'Clear' button 

5. Claws crashes

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec  9 00:29:42 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri,  9 Dec 2011 00:29:42 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2561] New: delay fetching mail after having been
 connected for awhile
Message-ID: <bug-2561-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2561

           Summary: delay fetching mail after having been connected for
                    awhile
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.7.10
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Windows XP
            Status: NEW
          Severity: major
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: wazz at ellijay.com


When I have been connected to the Internet for a few (undetermined) minutes and
then hit the Get Mail button, Claws Mail takes FOREVER to retrieve mail. I
often have to disconnect from the Internet and reconnect.  Mail fetching is
always normal after I have freshly connected to the Internet.

No errors are given.  I am checking several mailboxes, and I can see them pass
thru the status line at the lower left of the CM window.  And they hang up on
each one...slowly stepping thru them.  Its always much quicker to disconnect
and reconnect, and then it blasts thru, depending on how much mail, of course.

This has occurred in all version of the Windows port I have used.  Have been
using CM for about a year.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec  9 01:12:52 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri,  9 Dec 2011 01:12:52 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2561] delay fetching mail after having been connected
 for awhile
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--- Comment #1 from wazz  2011-12-09 01:12:52 ---
In addition to the delay in fetching mail.  Moving mail between folders is also
delayed when the Internet connection becomes "stale."

There is no other evidence with other programs of having any connection
problems whatsoever.  I am often actively communicating with websites, both
visiting and FTP'ing, etc, and then turn to check mail and....groan.

Also, never had this problem with my prior email clients, Thunderbird and
Outlook.

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From pf at pfortin.com  Fri Dec  9 01:28:35 2011
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 19:28:35 -0500
Subject: [Users] Bug 2561: delay fetching mail after having been
 connected for awhile
Message-ID: <20111208192835.6e1b68b2@pfortin.com>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2561
>When I have been connected to the Internet for a few (undetermined)
>minutes and then hit the Get Mail button, Claws Mail takes FOREVER to
>retrieve mail. I often have to disconnect from the Internet and
>reconnect.  Mail fetching is always normal after I have freshly
>connected to the Internet.
>
>No errors are given.  I am checking several mailboxes, and I can see
>them pass thru the status line at the lower left of the CM window.  And
>they hang up on each one...slowly stepping thru them.  Its always much
>quicker to disconnect and reconnect, and then it blasts thru, depending
>on how much mail, of course.
>
>This has occurred in all version of the Windows port I have used.  Have
>been using CM for about a year.

Windows...   that's why I'm bringing the discussion here instead of the
bug DB...

Windows is notorious for connection problems...  it sometimes auto-creates
new interfaces and then gets confused as to which one is the correct
one to send packets out over...  you didn't provide:
- Windows version
- wireless v. wired.
- details on disconnect/connect method
- router or direct connected to 'net modem
- are other apps working to remote locations?

Is your router and/or modem disconnecting/reconnecting from/to the net?
Have you tried opening a DOS window and using:
   ping -t 8.8.8.8 
(use Ctrl+c or close window to stop) to see if the network is still
working?  8.8.8.8 is a Google DNS server.  If the responses stop, then
you probably have a Windows or network problem, v. CM.

Are you running Windows7 under VirtualBox?  I used to see that very
problem more often under VB than when running natively -- either way,
Windows7 bug somewhere.  I don't run W7 long enough any more to know if
this has been fixed.

I may not be able to respond until Monday; hope someone can help in the
meanwhile...

Ah... you just posted:

>In addition to the delay in fetching mail.  Moving mail between folders
>is also delayed when the Internet connection becomes "stale."

Have you checked the Task Manager to see if a process is hogging the CPU
when this happens?

>There is no other evidence with other programs of having any connection
>problems whatsoever.  I am often actively communicating with websites,
>both visiting and FTP'ing, etc, and then turn to check mail and....groan.

Don't rely on this for confirmation...  try the above ping to see if
there are connection gaps as identified by missed responses...  
Browser data may be buffered, making it appear to work...   ftp uses
fast-backoff/slow-start algorithms which would mask some outages unless
you are watching closely and know what to look for.

>Also, never had this problem with my prior email clients, Thunderbird and
>Outlook.
That doesn't impress me...  LOL

Not discounting your issue; just wanting to make sure you're not missing
a Windows or router/network issue...

HTH,
Pierre



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec  9 11:10:30 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 10:10:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] Bug 2561: delay fetching mail after having been
 connected for awhile
In-Reply-To: <20111208192835.6e1b68b2@pfortin.com>
References: <20111208192835.6e1b68b2@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20111209101030.1f25ce19@thewildbeast>

Pierre,

It's very possible that the person who reported the bug is not
subscribed to this list, so you're always better offer adding to the
bug report if you want your msg to get to its intended recipient.

regards

Paul

-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec  9 11:12:00 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 10:12:00 +0000
Subject: [Users] Bug 2561: delay fetching mail after having been
 connected for awhile
In-Reply-To: <20111209101030.1f25ce19@thewildbeast>
References: <20111208192835.6e1b68b2@pfortin.com>
	<20111209101030.1f25ce19@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20111209101200.03e65798@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 10:10:30 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote: 

> It's very possible that the person who reported the bug is not
> subscribed to this list, so you're always better offer adding to the
> bug report if you want your msg to get to its intended recipient.

Ok, now I see that the reporter was also in the To header, but other
people might gain from seeing your response on the bug tracker too.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From lainecliff at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 12:02:18 2011
From: lainecliff at gmail.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 11:02:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] Deleted messages when switching folders / no old messages
 from imap server
Message-ID: <20111209110218.55aac325@mepis1>

Hello everyone

I hope it's OK to put two problems in the same post. These arose
suddenly without me changing anything on my system a couple of days
ago. And yes, I am using Gmail, which I accept is not a fully
standards-compliant email system, but Gmail and Claws have always got
on fine until the other day.

1) CM isn't showing all my old emails from imap.gmail.com. The post
count is 1406 of read emails but it's only showing about 50 which are
the emails which have arrived since this problem started. How can I get
Claws to recover all my email from the imap server?

2) I change folders, from the inbox to a child folder, then, when I
return to the inbox, the newest message in the inbox is deleted
permanently, bypassing the trash.  I wonder if anyone's got any ideas
about how to stop this behaviour.

Cliff
CM 3.7.5
Mepis Linux 8.5 


From pf at pfortin.com  Fri Dec  9 12:21:43 2011
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 06:21:43 -0500
Subject: [Users] Bug 2561: delay fetching mail after having been
 connected for awhile
In-Reply-To: <20111209101200.03e65798@thewildbeast>
References: <20111208192835.6e1b68b2@pfortin.com>
	<20111209101030.1f25ce19@thewildbeast>
	<20111209101200.03e65798@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20111209062143.427c86a6@pfortin.com>

On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 10:12:00 +0000 Paul wrote:

>On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 10:10:30 +0000
>Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote: 
>
>> It's very possible that the person who reported the bug is not
>> subscribed to this list, so you're always better offer adding to the
>> bug report if you want your msg to get to its intended recipient.
>
>Ok, now I see that the reporter was also in the To header, but other
>people might gain from seeing your response on the bug tracker too.
>
>with regards
>
>Paul

Hi Paul,

I was thinking his issue was not yet specific enough to be in the
tracker...   even suggested he join the list and bring my next set of
comments back there since I'm starting three days of intensive mentoring
this morning... so far, just a bunch of questions he should respond
with...  and he asked about my involvement which I turned into reasons to
stick with CM...  :)   Don't even know yet if he's using POP or IMAP...  

anyway gotta run -- should have more time Monday to help him if his
problem is not in CM...

Cheers,
Pierre


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec  9 14:37:33 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri,  9 Dec 2011 14:37:33 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2561] delay fetching mail after having been connected
 for awhile
In-Reply-To: <bug-2561-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2561-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111209133733.D480B2042E@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2561





--- Comment #2 from wazz  2011-12-09 14:37:33 ---
Using XP Pro
All accounts are setup as IMAP4 (TLS) non-blocking SSL
Error occurs wired & wireless, but seems to be less aggravating on my laptop
which is usually wireless but sometimes wired.  
Error occurs at different physical locations: home, work, girlfriend's. 
However, these all have the same ISP, which is the local small town phone
company.  Have not tried it with another ISP.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec  9 21:30:35 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri,  9 Dec 2011 21:30:35 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2560] crash when unsubscribing newsgroup and having
 active search field
In-Reply-To: <bug-2560-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2560-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111209203035.EE7692042E@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2560





--- Comment #1 from users  2011-12-09 21:30:35 ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest CVS and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://www.colino.net/claws-mail/

2011-12-09 [pawel]    3.7.10cvs112

    * src/summaryview.c
    * src/gtk/quicksearch.c
    * src/gtk/quicksearch.h
        Invalidate quicksearch root folder when removed
        Fixes bug #2560 'crash when unsubscribing newsgroup and
        having active search field'

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From littlergirl at gmail.com  Sat Dec 10 01:40:59 2011
From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 19:40:59 -0500
Subject: [Users] Another wish : confirmation before sending
In-Reply-To: <20111207122201.42065b44@scorpio>
References: <20111206161608.418b5ad1@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<4ede68d9.056ae00a.1178.2566@mx.google.com>
	<20111206191756.0b24524e@thewildbeast>
	<4ede6d03.8a1be00a.6e2b.ffff84dd@mx.google.com>
	<20111206194521.2961f361@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<4edeb2e6.056ae00a.1178.530e@mx.google.com>
	<20111207081956.1b7853f9@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<4edf8d0a.c3bde00a.13f4.5cc5@mx.google.com>
	<20111207122201.42065b44@scorpio>
Message-ID: <4ee2aa9c.0aaee00a.43b8.ffffdf52@mx.google.com>

Hey there,

Jerry wrote:
> Little Girl articulated:

[Re: CC to mailing list recipient]

> > I can't think of any reason why anyone would do that without
> > having been asked, and I can definitely say I've never done it. (:
 
> I never fails to amaze me though how many times that has happened to
> me. I have had some morons on the FreeBSD list that actually claim
> it is the correct protocol. Seriously pathetic. It is the primary
> reason I worded my signature disclaimer the way I have.

I hadn't noticed your signature until you mentioned it, but I guess
you do have that in there. Well, luckily for us, Claws makes it
possible, but not required, for us to have the signatures and to CC
if we want to. (:

-- 
Little Girl

There is no spoon.


From littlergirl at gmail.com  Sat Dec 10 01:50:09 2011
From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 19:50:09 -0500
Subject: [Users] Another wish : confirmation before sending
In-Reply-To: <20111207181920.76e3b55f@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20111206161608.418b5ad1@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<4ede68d9.056ae00a.1178.2566@mx.google.com>
	<20111206191756.0b24524e@thewildbeast>
	<4ede6d03.8a1be00a.6e2b.ffff84dd@mx.google.com>
	<20111206194521.2961f361@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<4edeb2e6.056ae00a.1178.530e@mx.google.com>
	<20111207081956.1b7853f9@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<4edf8d0a.c3bde00a.13f4.5cc5@mx.google.com>
	<20111207181920.76e3b55f@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <4ee2acc1.8a1be00a.77bb.ffffdc81@mx.google.com>

Hey there,

Brad Rogers wrote:
> Little Girl wrote:
 
> > I can't think of any reason why anyone would do that without
> > having been asked, and I can definitely say I've never done it. (:
 
> Happens on several lists I'm on.   As Jerry says, some people insist
> it's the "correct" thing to do.  I'm told some lists make it policy.

I didn't realize that, but I'm only on a couple of mailing lists, so
I don't have much experience.

> I know why some people do it;  The "Reply All", rather than "Reply
> List" thinking they're the same thing, or because that's the only
> way they can get the list address up in the To: field.  They're
> then too lazy to delete the CC:, or other To: of the OP.

I have the opposite problem. Someone will send a message with
multiple recipients, and my default behavior is to reply to list.
It's generally only after I've sent the message that I realize it was
probably expected at more than one address. That's why I responded to
this wish thread to begin with, because the wish would solve my
issue nicely. (:

> The worst scenario is when I reply to somebody's question, then
> somebody else replies to my message, but is /actually/ replying to
> the OP. Totally asinine, and shows they've spent too long in web
> forums.

I've probably done that a couple of times as well, although not
intentionally, and not as a result of any kind of appeal for forums.
It's also possible that others do what I do, which is to delete any
message that doesn't interest me or doesn't sound like something I
could offer valuable input on. Then later there's a reply that shows
me that I misunderstood the original message and could have offered
something after all. At that point I can either join in late and
clumsy in an attempt to reach the original poster (just like you
describe above) or slink off into the shadows. (:

-- 
Little Girl

There is no spoon.


From linxt at comcast.net  Sat Dec 10 08:10:19 2011
From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 23:10:19 -0800
Subject: [Users] Using colors in compose message
Message-ID: <20111209231019.2866514d@desktop-linux-1.home>

Hi folks;
How does one go about highlighting a selection when composing a message?  I
occasionally wish to emphasize a few words in a message I'm sending in some
color besides black.

I suspect this has to do with some escape code around the words to be
emphasized but haven't been able to find it in the FAQs or list.

Thanks, Tom

-- 
Tom Taylor - retired penguin
openSUSE 11.4 x86_64    openSUSE 12.1
KDE 4.6.00, FF 4.0      KDE 4.7.2, FF 7.0
claws-mail 3.7.9
registered linux user 263467
linxt-At-comcast-DoT-net


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec 10 09:28:51 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 09:28:51 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2560] crash when unsubscribing newsgroup and having
 active search field
In-Reply-To: <bug-2560-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2560-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111210082851.471F82042E@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2560





--- Comment #2 from Gour  2011-12-10 09:28:50 ---
>  3.7.10cvs112

Thank you. The above patch fixes it. ;)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec 10 09:29:21 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 09:29:21 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2560] crash when unsubscribing newsgroup and having
 active search field
In-Reply-To: <bug-2560-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2560-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111210082921.BA8DC20476@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2560


Gour <gour at atmarama.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |FIXED




--- Comment #3 from Gour  2011-12-10 09:29:21 ---
Closing the bug...

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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sat Dec 10 10:25:02 2011
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 09:25:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] Using colors in compose message
In-Reply-To: <20111209231019.2866514d@desktop-linux-1.home>
References: <20111209231019.2866514d@desktop-linux-1.home>
Message-ID: <20111210092502.56542936@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 23:10:19 -0800
Thomas Taylor <linxt at comcast.net> wrote:

Hello Thomas,

> How does one go about highlighting a selection when composing a
> message?  I occasionally wish to emphasize a few words in a message
> I'm sending in some color besides black.

Use of *, / and _ are the traditional methods for emphasis in email, in
pairs, around the word(s) you wish to emphasise.  Where * is used to
indicate bold, / for italics, and _ for underlined text.

> I suspect this has to do with some escape code around the words to be
> emphasized but haven't been able to find it in the FAQs or list.

If you want to use actual colours, you'll need to install suitable
plugins, if they exist.  Even then, it relies on the recipient having
something that will interpret what you send correctly.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
He signed up for just three years, it seemed a small amount
Tin Soldiers - Stiff Little Fingers
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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sat Dec 10 12:01:23 2011
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 11:01:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] Another wish : confirmation before sending
In-Reply-To: <4ee2acc1.8a1be00a.77bb.ffffdc81@mx.google.com>
References: <20111206161608.418b5ad1@quad.lairdutemps.org>
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On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 19:50:09 -0500
Little Girl <littlergirl at gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Little,

> I have the opposite problem. Someone will send a message with
> multiple recipients, and my default behavior is to reply to list.

As is mine.  For the most part, I ignore CC's and multiple To: lines
because on most of the lists I'm on such things are done out of
ignorance (real ignorance, not rudeness or laziness) as those lists are
frequented by people that aren't particularly tech savvy.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
It's got nothing to do with the need to impress
Titanic (My Over) Reaction - 999
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From codejodler at gmx.ch  Sat Dec 10 22:20:22 2011
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:20:22 +0100
Subject: [Users] Run command after checking for email
In-Reply-To: <20110630200928.55d2d5a7@thewildbeast>
References: <20110629164224.5d24a843@yopmail.com>
	<20110630091132.35efddf0@yopmail.com>
	<20110630092733.6cdb64e3@Couracado.homelinux.net>
	<20110630110434.458130cf@yopmail.com>
	<20110630103600.004a85fb@thewildbeast>
	<20110630120133.653202cf@yopmail.com>
	<20110630123329.53143b3b@thewildbeast>
	<20110630091510.77d822dd@hrafn> <20110630114414.411b6103@scorpio>
	<20110630210115.57645ddc@yopmail.com>
	<20110630200928.55d2d5a7@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20111210222022.0e2f2a5b@mirrors.kernel.org>

> On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:01:15 +0200
> Olive <not0read0765 at yopmail.com> wrote: 
>
> > Claws-mail has interesting features that sylpheed do not have but it seems 
> > that the developer of sylpheed care more of its userbase than claws-mail.

I am participating in a lot of software projects and regularly file bug reports for any kind of software i use, and i do not know many projects where they listen and reply to their users like claws devs do; and where so many features were implemented right out of that.


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Sat Dec 10 22:48:07 2011
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:48:07 +0100
Subject: [Users] Run command after checking for email
In-Reply-To: <20110630062049.5fca75b5@from-theboss.911networks.com>
References: <20110629164224.5d24a843@yopmail.com>
	<20110630091132.35efddf0@yopmail.com>
	<20110630092733.6cdb64e3@Couracado.homelinux.net>
	<20110630110434.458130cf@yopmail.com>
	<20110630103600.004a85fb@thewildbeast>
	<20110630120133.653202cf@yopmail.com>
	<20110630123329.53143b3b@thewildbeast>
	<20110630144835.02ef2950@yopmail.com>
	<20110630062049.5fca75b5@from-theboss.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20111210224807.6f0dfd95@mirrors.kernel.org>


> You'd be surprised. I did file "a" request with MS. It took over a
> hundred times/request and 6 weeks later, without them communicating
> with me, they fixed it!

Windows 8 missing autorun.dll ? Piece of cake ! 

<http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ2I2DQomDtqTYAt48XJLtWc7kQ-INqabPKS4tUkVI3Ok613phL>



From fardizzle at gmx.de  Sat Dec 10 23:58:22 2011
From: fardizzle at gmx.de (florian d)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:58:22 +0100
Subject: [Users] Message scoring
Message-ID: <20111210235822.0cfb56cf@fardizzle>

Hi, 

Recently i had to subscribe multiple mailing lists. 
Thus i'm looking for options to deal with trolls. 
I found the message scoring system in Claws Mail, 
but I'm still not sure how to use it properly. 

Google didn't help much. 

Are there any webpages with explanations or examples for message
scoring? 

i appreciate your help, 
florian


From littlergirl at gmail.com  Sun Dec 11 04:49:58 2011
From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:49:58 -0500
Subject: [Users] Another wish : confirmation before sending
In-Reply-To: <20111210110123.68891193@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20111206161608.418b5ad1@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<4ede68d9.056ae00a.1178.2566@mx.google.com>
	<20111206191756.0b24524e@thewildbeast>
	<4ede6d03.8a1be00a.6e2b.ffff84dd@mx.google.com>
	<20111206194521.2961f361@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<4edeb2e6.056ae00a.1178.530e@mx.google.com>
	<20111207081956.1b7853f9@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<4edf8d0a.c3bde00a.13f4.5cc5@mx.google.com>
	<20111207181920.76e3b55f@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<4ee2acc1.8a1be00a.77bb.ffffdc81@mx.google.com>
	<20111210110123.68891193@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <4ee42867.83d6e00a.0d46.7aae@mx.google.com>

Hey there,

Brad Rogers wrote:
> Little Girl wrote:
> 
> > I have the opposite problem. Someone will send a message with
> > multiple recipients, and my default behavior is to reply to list.
> 
> As is mine.  For the most part, I ignore CC's and multiple To: lines
> because on most of the lists I'm on such things are done out of
> ignorance (real ignorance, not rudeness or laziness) as those lists
> are frequented by people that aren't particularly tech savvy.

Perhaps I should retract my desire for this wish to be fulfilled and
just stick with hitting reply to group when on mailing lists. (:

-- 
Little Girl

There is no spoon.


From jerry at seibercom.net  Sun Dec 11 15:36:03 2011
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:36:03 -0500
Subject: [Users] Run command after checking for email
In-Reply-To: <20111210224807.6f0dfd95@mirrors.kernel.org>
References: <20110629164224.5d24a843@yopmail.com>
	<20110630091132.35efddf0@yopmail.com>
	<20110630092733.6cdb64e3@Couracado.homelinux.net>
	<20110630110434.458130cf@yopmail.com>
	<20110630103600.004a85fb@thewildbeast>
	<20110630120133.653202cf@yopmail.com>
	<20110630123329.53143b3b@thewildbeast>
	<20110630144835.02ef2950@yopmail.com>
	<20110630062049.5fca75b5@from-theboss.911networks.com>
	<20111210224807.6f0dfd95@mirrors.kernel.org>
Message-ID: <20111211093603.1ca9ddde@scorpio>

On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:48:07 +0100
Michael articulated:

> > You'd be surprised. I did file "a" request with MS. It took over a
> > hundred times/request and 6 weeks later, without them communicating
> > with me, they fixed it!
> 
> Windows 8 missing autorun.dll ? Piece of cake ! 
> 
> <http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ2I2DQomDtqTYAt48XJLtWc7kQ-INqabPKS4tUkVI3Ok613phL>

1) I am not sure what this is all about.

2) I am sure it is OT

3) Slashdot is the recommended forum for Microsoft bashing.

4) Are you so naive as to believe that they would actually respond to
your message? They potentially receive more messages per day than
Claws-Mail has users, If you are not part of their BETA team then you
are not likely to receive a reply. Now, I have been on their BETA teams
for several projects and have receive timely responses, etc.

BTW, "hundred times" over six weeks comes out to approximately 2.4
messages per day. Either you are a complete idiot or a liar. Out of
pure spite, I would have ignored your garbage. I feel safe in saying if
you were to bombard the developers of Claws-Mail with that volume of
mail they would have ignore you too.

-- 
Jerry ♔

Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored.
Please do not ignore the Reply-To header.
__________________________________________________________________
A fool is a man who worries about whether or not his lover has
integrity. A wise man, on the other hand, busies himself with deeper
attributes.


From linux at slavino.sk  Sun Dec 11 18:29:59 2011
From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:29:59 +0100
Subject: [Users] PGP/Inline notice charset
Message-ID: <20111211182959.43e8a162@bonifac.skk>

Hi,

i recently received PGP/Inline encrypted message and the PGP/Inline notice
is wrong displayed (see screenshot http://troll.ws/i/iqKue4.png).

Now i ma wondering, if this is mistake in CM (slovak, sk) translation, or
the problem is related to message charset:

 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15

where is mixed the ISO-8859-15 (from message) and UTF-8 (from translation)
or something other.

Please, can someone decide it?

regards
-- 
Slavko
http://slavino.sk
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From mir at miras.org  Sun Dec 11 19:01:07 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:01:07 +0100
Subject: [Users] PGP/Inline notice charset
In-Reply-To: <20111211182959.43e8a162@bonifac.skk>
References: <20111211182959.43e8a162@bonifac.skk>
Message-ID: <20111211190107.5761bb84@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:29:59 +0100
Slavko <linux at slavino.sk> wrote:

>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15
> 
> where is mixed the ISO-8859-15 (from message) and UTF-8 (from translation)
> or something other.
> 
If message contents stipulates charset=ISO-8859-15 then it is not
allowed to have other characters in the message except characters from
ISO-8859-15 or US-ASCII-{7,8}

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917
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From codejodler at gmx.ch  Sun Dec 11 19:53:03 2011
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:53:03 +0100
Subject: [Users] Run command after checking for email
In-Reply-To: <20111211093603.1ca9ddde@scorpio>
References: <20110629164224.5d24a843@yopmail.com>
	<20110630091132.35efddf0@yopmail.com>
	<20110630092733.6cdb64e3@Couracado.homelinux.net>
	<20110630110434.458130cf@yopmail.com>
	<20110630103600.004a85fb@thewildbeast>
	<20110630120133.653202cf@yopmail.com>
	<20110630123329.53143b3b@thewildbeast>
	<20110630144835.02ef2950@yopmail.com>
	<20110630062049.5fca75b5@from-theboss.911networks.com>
	<20111210224807.6f0dfd95@mirrors.kernel.org>
	<20111211093603.1ca9ddde@scorpio>
Message-ID: <20111211195303.427db156@mirrors.kernel.org>

 Jerry,

> 1) I am not sure what this is all about.

My link was meant as a harmless joke.
 
> 2) I am sure it is OT

Yes, it is !
 
> 3) Slashdot is the recommended forum for Microsoft bashing.

ok, i try to memorize it.

> 4) Are you so naive as to believe that they would actually respond to
> your message? 

Jerry, do you really ask _me_ here ? But i really was not involved in this topic discussion. I was quoting a piece of text from someone, but thought it shouldn't be important who it was. You can find it in the thread easily.

I just wanted to do a little joke. I thought it would help to pacify emotion. Now i am astonished ! Please do not flame, it wasn't pointing to you at all.

Regards, Micha



From codejodler at gmx.ch  Sun Dec 11 19:58:04 2011
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:58:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] Run command after checking for email
In-Reply-To: <20111211195303.427db156@mirrors.kernel.org>
References: <20110629164224.5d24a843@yopmail.com>
	<20110630091132.35efddf0@yopmail.com>
	<20110630092733.6cdb64e3@Couracado.homelinux.net>
	<20110630110434.458130cf@yopmail.com>
	<20110630103600.004a85fb@thewildbeast>
	<20110630120133.653202cf@yopmail.com>
	<20110630123329.53143b3b@thewildbeast>
	<20110630144835.02ef2950@yopmail.com>
	<20110630062049.5fca75b5@from-theboss.911networks.com>
	<20111210224807.6f0dfd95@mirrors.kernel.org>
	<20111211093603.1ca9ddde@scorpio>
	<20111211195303.427db156@mirrors.kernel.org>
Message-ID: <20111211195804.286c188a@mirrors.kernel.org>


Ah, the joke was, they needed 6 weeks and 100 mails to fix a not-booting installation DVD. 

It did not really happen of course (they fixed it within hours, and '911' did not refer to this one.)


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Sun Dec 11 14:48:02 2011
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:48:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] Another wish : confirmation before sending
In-Reply-To: <4ee42867.83d6e00a.0d46.7aae@mx.google.com>
References: <20111206161608.418b5ad1@quad.lairdutemps.org>
	<4ede68d9.056ae00a.1178.2566@mx.google.com>
	<20111206191756.0b24524e@thewildbeast>
	<4ede6d03.8a1be00a.6e2b.ffff84dd@mx.google.com>
	<20111206194521.2961f361@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<4edeb2e6.056ae00a.1178.530e@mx.google.com>
	<20111207081956.1b7853f9@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<4edf8d0a.c3bde00a.13f4.5cc5@mx.google.com>
	<20111207181920.76e3b55f@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<4ee2acc1.8a1be00a.77bb.ffffdc81@mx.google.com>
	<20111210110123.68891193@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
	<4ee42867.83d6e00a.0d46.7aae@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <20111211134802.742a0817@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:49:58 -0500
Little Girl <littlergirl at gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Little,

> Perhaps I should retract my desire for this wish to be fulfilled and

Entirely up to you, of course.  My view may be different from yours, but
that doesn't mean it's "right".

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
It's not your heart, it's your bank I want to break
It's Yer Money - Wonder Stuff
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec 12 22:38:16 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:38:16 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2562] New: Allow loading a default CSS file to display
 HTML with the Fancy plugin.
Message-ID: <bug-2562-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2562

           Summary: Allow loading a default CSS file to display HTML with
                    the Fancy plugin.
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: CVS
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Fancy
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: stephane.goujet at gmail.com


Created an attachment (id=1050)
 --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1050)
Patch for default CSS in Fancy plugin.

Hello,

  I propose this addition to the Fancy plugin. It allows to load a CSS file
located in the configuration directory (for example
~/.claws-mail/fancy/default.css). This style is then applied before loading the
HTML code. Location of the CSS file can be changed in clawsrc or in the
Preferences window.

  The patch was generated with :
~/extcvs/plugins/fancy $ cvs diff -u src/ >css.patch

  It may need some refinement in the Preferences window.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 13 10:14:24 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:14:24 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2563] New: Claws Mail crashes when trying to view some
	mails
Message-ID: <bug-2563-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2563

           Summary: Claws Mail crashes when trying to view some mails
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.7.10
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: blocker
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message View
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: ds at miran.ru


Created an attachment (id=1051)
 --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1051)
This mail leads Claws Mail to crash

On OpenSuSe 12.1 (KDE) Claws Mail crashes immediately when trying to view some
messages on preview panel. Signal 11, see details below. I've attached the mail
that produses the crash. Claws Mail does cached link to tls-imap, preview panel
is on.
 And, yes, it again gets stuck on header-encoding errors! It's a good idea to
use "charset=" in case of no MIME in "Subject". You although must take more
attention to UTF8-MIME subjects, as it's very buggy now. There is good sample
code, as current RoundCoube does all such things correctly. But I want to have
this in my preferred mailer!

===============================================================================
Claws Mail version 3.7.10
GTK+ version 2.24.7 / GLib 2.30.1
Locale: ru_RU.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8)
Features: IPv6 iconv compface GnuTLS LDAP JPilot GNU/aspell libetpan libSM
Operating system: Linux 3.1.0-1.2-desktop (x86_64)
C Library: GNU libc 2.14.1
--
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread 0x7f6c8e5dc700 (LWP 690)]
0x00007f6c9ae128bd in waitpid () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#0  0x00007f6c9ae128bd in waitpid () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#1  0x000000000049f18b in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#2  <signal handler called>
No symbol table info available.
#3  0x00007f6c8f229ba3 in ?? () from
/usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/gtkhtml2_viewer.so
No symbol table info available.
#4  0x00007f6c8f22a17b in ?? () from
/usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/gtkhtml2_viewer.so
No symbol table info available.
#5  0x00007f6c8f22da09 in css_matcher_get_style () from
/usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/gtkhtml2_viewer.so
No symbol table info available.
#6  0x00007f6c8f22f19e in ?? () from
/usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/gtkhtml2_viewer.so
No symbol table info available.
#7  0x00007f6c8f22fac9 in ?? () from
/usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/gtkhtml2_viewer.so
No symbol table info available.
#8  0x00007f6c8f22ffa1 in ?? () from
/usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/gtkhtml2_viewer.so
No symbol table info available.
#9  0x00007f6c9a36ba14 in g_closure_invoke () from
/usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#10 0x00007f6c9a37d99a in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#11 0x00007f6c9a387021 in g_signal_emit_valist () from
/usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#12 0x00007f6c9a3871c2 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#13 0x00007f6c8ef1c57c in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2
No symbol table info available.
#14 0x00007f6c8ef21e3d in htmlParseChunk () from /usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2
No symbol table info available.
#15 0x00007f6c8f252a09 in html_stream_write () from
/usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/gtkhtml2_viewer.so
No symbol table info available.
#16 0x00007f6c8f225c9f in ?? () from
/usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/gtkhtml2_viewer.so
No symbol table info available.
#17 0x00007f6c99ea7d6b in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#18 0x00007f6c99ea658d in g_main_context_dispatch () from
/usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#19 0x00007f6c99ea6d88 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#20 0x00007f6c99ea72c2 in g_main_loop_run () from /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#21 0x00007f6c9c8c4ec7 in gtk_main () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#22 0x000000000044cfc9 in main ()
No symbol table info available.
Kill the program being debugged? (y or n) [answered Y; input not from terminal]
===============================================================================

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From lainecliff at gmail.com  Tue Dec 13 11:37:23 2011
From: lainecliff at gmail.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:37:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] Deleted messages when switching folders / no old
 messages from imap server
In-Reply-To: <20111209110218.55aac325@mepis1>
References: <20111209110218.55aac325@mepis1>
Message-ID: <20111213103723.64b33f55@mepis1>

On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 11:02:18 +0000
Cliff Laine <lainecliff at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone
> 
> 
> 2) I change folders, from the inbox to a child folder, then, when I
> return to the inbox, the newest message in the inbox is deleted
> permanently, bypassing the trash.  I wonder if anyone's got any ideas
> about how to stop this behaviour.
> 
> Cliff
> CM 3.7.5
> Mepis Linux 8.5 

I hope it's not considered a breach of etiquette to give this problem a
little bump?

I've tried upgrading to 3.7.6 and the problem is still there. Every
time I switch back to the inbox, the most recently arrived message is
deleted.

I'm having to use Thunderbird at the moment with its hideous
never-to-be-resolved wordwrap problems.

Any suggestions would be gratefully received.

Cliff


From kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com  Tue Dec 13 12:17:42 2011
From: kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com (Abhay S. Kushwaha)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:47:42 +0530
Subject: [Users] Deleted messages when switching folders / no old
 messages from imap server
In-Reply-To: <20111213103723.64b33f55@mepis1>
References: <20111209110218.55aac325@mepis1> <20111213103723.64b33f55@mepis1>
Message-ID: <20111213164742.0000367e@netsolutionsindia.com>

On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:37:23 +0000, Cliff wrote:

> > 2) I change folders, from the inbox to a child folder, then, when
> > I return to the inbox, the newest message in the inbox is deleted
> > permanently, bypassing the trash.  I wonder if anyone's got any
> > ideas about how to stop this behaviour.

Check folder processing rules (right-click on folder -> Processing...)
to see if you somehow added a rule that deletes the selected message
or moves it to some folder.

Better still, check matcherrc in .claws-mail/ in a text editor -- I'm
not sure if filters also run on folder changes in IMAP.

And upgrade to 3.7.10 (the latest)...



From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Tue Dec 13 15:16:50 2011
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:16:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] howto show images in incoming mail
Message-ID: <20111213141650.73139307@g8jvm.com>

Hi
I get regularly html mail with images, ie supermarket flyers.

hoe do I set the config to display the images ?

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From subscript at free.fr  Tue Dec 13 15:25:55 2011
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:25:55 +0100
Subject: [Users] howto show images in incoming mail
In-Reply-To: <20111213141650.73139307@g8jvm.com>
References: <20111213141650.73139307@g8jvm.com>
Message-ID: <20111213152555.764a6f7d@monolith>

Hello Richard,


On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:16:50 +0000 Richard <richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi
> I get regularly html mail with images, ie supermarket flyers.
> 
> hoe do I set the config to display the images ?

I'm assuming that you're dealing w/ HTML emails and you're using the
Fancy plug-in; you have to turn on the "Auto-Load images" option in
Configuration/Preferences/Plugins/Fancy.


Regards,

-- 
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From lainecliff at gmail.com  Tue Dec 13 15:33:25 2011
From: lainecliff at gmail.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:33:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] Deleted messages when switching folders / no old
 messages from imap server
In-Reply-To: <20111213164742.0000367e@netsolutionsindia.com>
References: <20111209110218.55aac325@mepis1> <20111213103723.64b33f55@mepis1>
	<20111213164742.0000367e@netsolutionsindia.com>
Message-ID: <4EE76235.9040304@gmail.com>

On 13/12/11 11:17, Abhay S. Kushwaha wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:37:23 +0000, Cliff wrote:
>
>>> 2) I change folders, from the inbox to a child folder, then, when
>>> I return to the inbox, the newest message in the inbox is deleted
>>> permanently, bypassing the trash.  I wonder if anyone's got any
>>> ideas about how to stop this behaviour.
> Check folder processing rules (right-click on folder ->  Processing...)
> to see if you somehow added a rule that deletes the selected message
> or moves it to some folder.
>
> Better still, check matcherrc in .claws-mail/ in a text editor -- I'm
> not sure if filters also run on folder changes in IMAP.
Thanks - checked both those, only some filters to sort mail into folders.

> And upgrade to 3.7.10 (the latest)...
I'll do that as soon as I can - I can't unpack the tarball, something 
about C not being to make executables or something.

Cliff


From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Tue Dec 13 15:46:35 2011
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:46:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] howto show images in incoming mail
In-Reply-To: <20111213152555.764a6f7d@monolith>
References: <20111213141650.73139307@g8jvm.com>
	<20111213152555.764a6f7d@monolith>
Message-ID: <20111213144635.71d451e5@g8jvm.com>

On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:25:55 +0100
wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:

> Hello Richard,
> 
> 
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:16:50 +0000 Richard <richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > Hi
> > I get regularly html mail with images, ie supermarket flyers.
> > 
> > hoe do I set the config to display the images ?
> 
> I'm assuming that you're dealing w/ HTML emails and you're using the
> Fancy plug-in; you have to turn on the "Auto-Load images" option in
> Configuration/Preferences/Plugins/Fancy.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 

Many thanks , that did the trick

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From kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com  Tue Dec 13 15:57:26 2011
From: kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com (Abhay S. Kushwaha)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:27:26 +0530
Subject: [Users] Deleted messages when switching folders / no old
 messages from imap server
In-Reply-To: <4EE76235.9040304@gmail.com>
References: <20111209110218.55aac325@mepis1> <20111213103723.64b33f55@mepis1>
	<20111213164742.0000367e@netsolutionsindia.com>
	<4EE76235.9040304@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20111213202726.00001d71@netsolutionsindia.com>

On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:33:25 +0000, Cliff wrote:

> > Better still, check matcherrc in .claws-mail/ in a text editor --
> > I'm not sure if filters also run on folder changes in IMAP.
> 
> Thanks - checked both those, only some filters to sort mail into
> folders.

Anything that moves messages from INBOX? Perhaps you can share those
filters (sans any sensitive info) for better help?

By itself CM won't delete any messages. It has to be some filter
doing something funky with your mails.



From knathan at project54.com  Tue Dec 13 19:55:54 2011
From: knathan at project54.com (Kevin Nathan)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:55:54 -0700
Subject: [Users] Message scoring
In-Reply-To: <20111210235822.0cfb56cf@fardizzle>
References: <20111210235822.0cfb56cf@fardizzle>
Message-ID: <20111213115554.3a0e5e13@efreet.linux>

On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:58:22 +0100
florian d <fardizzle at gmx.de> wrote:

>Hi, 
>
>Recently i had to subscribe multiple mailing lists. 
>Thus i'm looking for options to deal with trolls. 
>I found the message scoring system in Claws Mail, 
>but I'm still not sure how to use it properly. 
>

Here are some processing rules from one of my USENET newsgroups:

newsgroups regexpcase "(advocacy)|(microsoft)" color 3
header "Organization" matchcase "google" change_score -20
headers_part matchcase ".hispeed.ch" delete
headers_part matchcase "hull lug" color 4
header "Message-ID" matchcase "@4ax.com" change_score -20
age_greater 10 change_score -15
enabled rulename "" score_lower -5 mark_as_read
enabled rulename "" ignore_thread mark_as_read
enabled rulename "" ignore_thread color 8
enabled rulename "" marked color 2
enabled rulename "" newsgroups matchcase "," color 15
enabled rulename "" age_greater 49 change_score -20
enabled rulename "" score_lower -27 & ~marked delete

You just decide what you want to happen at various score levels and
then setup your rules accordingly.


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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 13 19:58:42 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:58:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] Deleted messages when switching folders / no old
 messages from imap server
In-Reply-To: <20111213202726.00001d71@netsolutionsindia.com>
References: <20111209110218.55aac325@mepis1> <20111213103723.64b33f55@mepis1>
	<20111213164742.0000367e@netsolutionsindia.com>
	<4EE76235.9040304@gmail.com>
	<20111213202726.00001d71@netsolutionsindia.com>
Message-ID: <20111213185842.19ad1bcb@thewildbeast>

Cliff,

Start Claws from a terminal with `claws-mail --debug` and watch the
--debug output when you enter the folder. Paste it here if you need
some clarification.

regards

Paul

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 13 20:02:24 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:02:24 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2563] Claws Mail crashes when trying to view some mails
In-Reply-To: <bug-2563-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2563-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111213190224.92D00203B7@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2563


Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Severity|blocker                     |normal




--- Comment #1 from Paul  2011-12-13 20:02:24 ---
It displays fine here - no crash, no problems.
Are you using one of the HTML rendering plugins to display the html? If so,
which one? I've viewed it with the Fancy plugin.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 13 20:04:42 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:04:42 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2563] Claws Mail crashes when trying to view some mails
In-Reply-To: <bug-2563-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2563-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111213190442.7784920171@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2563





--- Comment #2 from Paul  2011-12-13 20:04:42 ---
And regarding the UTF-8 Subject. To the best of my knowledge the Subject should
state it's encoding, if it doesn't it's broken.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 13 20:06:28 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:06:28 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2563] Claws Mail crashes when trying to view some mails
In-Reply-To: <bug-2563-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2563-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111213190628.8DB5120171@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2563


Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
          Component|UI/Message View             |Plugins/Gtkhtml2 Viewer




--- Comment #3 from Paul  2011-12-13 20:06:28 ---
Obviously I'm trying to do many things at once... Following up to my question
about an HTML plugin, I now see that you are using the Gtkhtml2 Viewer plugin.

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From pf at pfortin.com  Wed Dec 14 00:33:20 2011
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:33:20 -0500
Subject: [Users] Is this a bug, or a feature I've never noticed before?
Message-ID: <20111213183320.7803c153@pfortin.com>

Never noticed a Subject line wrap before...  see attached screen shot 

From emacs:

Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[EVG]_If_You_Want_To_Know_How_To_Profit_D?=
 =?utf-8?Q?uring_=E2=80=A8The_Coming_Depression_-_Read_This=E2=80=A6?=

Should the row height grow to accommodate the Subject?

Just curious,
Pierre
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 14 07:58:56 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:58:56 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2563] Claws Mail crashes when trying to view some mails
In-Reply-To: <bug-2563-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2563-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111214065857.0686920207@paperstreet.colino.net>

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--- Comment #4 from Dmitry Svyatogorov  2011-12-14 07:58:56 ---
  Thank You, Paul. The bug really locates in gtkhtml2 plugin. But "fancy"
complains me to the undefined symbol and, so, doesn't load:
=========================================================
fancy.so:
/usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/fancy.so: undefined symbol:
webkit_web_view_get_selected_text
=========================================================
  Of course it may be compilation bug in my OpenSuSe repo.

  And WRT subjects, the non-mime encodings is a bug of about a half of internet
(php, AFAIK) mailers in non-ASCII sector, because most of them are written by
english-spoken programmers. So, stupid php-coders have no idea on how to adopt
some out-of-box mail() function :(

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 14 08:32:31 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 08:32:31 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2563] Claws Mail crashes when trying to view some mails
In-Reply-To: <bug-2563-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2563-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111214073231.2073E20207@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2563





--- Comment #5 from Paul  2011-12-14 08:32:30 ---
The 'undefined symbol" in Fancy has been reported (many times) and fixed, see
bug #2507. I don't think you have to necessarily be English-speaking to be a
"stupid" php coder.

In the case of the attached msg, the subject is not UTF-8 but cp1251.

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 14 08:43:08 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:43:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] Is this a bug, or a feature I've never noticed before?
In-Reply-To: <20111213183320.7803c153@pfortin.com>
References: <20111213183320.7803c153@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20111214074308.1fd4f828@thewildbeast>

On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:33:20 -0500
Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote: 

> Never noticed a Subject line wrap before...  see attached screen
> shot 
> 
> From emacs:
> 
> Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[EVG]_If_You_Want_To_Know_How_To_Profit_D?=
>  =?utf-8?Q?uring_=E2=80=A8The_Coming_Depression_-_Read_This=E2=80=A6?=
> 
> Should the row height grow to accommodate the Subject?

A similar issue was reported and fixed quite some time ago, see
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1116

with regards

Paul


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 14 09:34:00 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:34:00 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2563] Claws Mail crashes when trying to view some mails
In-Reply-To: <bug-2563-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2563-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111214083401.090B72034B@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2563





--- Comment #6 from Dmitry Svyatogorov  2011-12-14 09:34:00 ---
Created an attachment (id=1052)
 --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1052)
New, but buggy fancy plugin.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 14 09:34:38 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:34:38 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2563] Claws Mail crashes when trying to view some mails
In-Reply-To: <bug-2563-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2563-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2563





--- Comment #7 from Dmitry Svyatogorov  2011-12-14 09:34:37 ---
  Hi Paul, I recently compilled&installed Fancy 0.9.14 from
http://www.claws-mail.org/plugins.php, but the bug is still here.
fancy.so:
/usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/fancy.so: undefined symbol:
webkit_web_view_get_selected_text

 Moreover, mailer now crashes when trying to load it again:
============================================================================
Claws Mail version 3.7.10
GTK+ version 2.24.7 / GLib 2.30.1
Locale: ru_RU.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8)
Features: IPv6 iconv compface GnuTLS LDAP JPilot GNU/aspell libetpan libSM
Operating system: Linux 3.1.0-1.2-desktop (x86_64)
C Library: GNU libc 2.14.1
--
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread 0x7fb1e4215700 (LWP 27598)]
[New Thread 0x7fb1f1621700 (LWP 27593)]
0x00007fb1fd1c58bd in waitpid () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#0  0x00007fb1fd1c58bd in waitpid () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#1  0x000000000049f18b in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#2  <signal handler called>
No symbol table info available.
#3  0x000000000000438e in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#4  0x00007fb1e280fdea in plugin_init (error=<optimized out>) at
fancy_viewer.c:1132
        directory = <optimized out>
#5  0x00000000005e982d in plugin_load ()
No symbol table info available.
#6  0x0000000000634666 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#7  0x00007fb1fc71ea14 in g_closure_invoke () from
/usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#8  0x00007fb1fc73099a in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#9  0x00007fb1fc73a021 in g_signal_emit_valist () from
/usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#10 0x00007fb1fc73a1c2 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#11 0x00007fb1febd1c95 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#12 0x00007fb1fc71ea14 in g_closure_invoke () from
/usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#13 0x00007fb1fc73018a in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#14 0x00007fb1fc73a021 in g_signal_emit_valist () from
/usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#15 0x00007fb1fc73a1c2 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#16 0x00007fb1febd0abd in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#17 0x00007fb1fec7a958 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#18 0x00007fb1fc71ea14 in g_closure_invoke () from
/usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#19 0x00007fb1fc7307cf in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#20 0x00007fb1fc739df3 in g_signal_emit_valist () from
/usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#21 0x00007fb1fc73a1c2 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#22 0x00007fb1fed93911 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#23 0x00007fb1fec78b13 in gtk_propagate_event () from
/usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#24 0x00007fb1fec78e73 in gtk_main_do_event () from
/usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#25 0x00007fb1fe8e464c in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#26 0x00007fb1fc25958d in g_main_context_dispatch () from
/usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#27 0x00007fb1fc259d88 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#28 0x00007fb1fc25a2c2 in g_main_loop_run () from /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#29 0x00007fb1fec77ec7 in gtk_main () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#30 0x000000000044cfc9 in main ()
No symbol table info available.
Kill the program being debugged? (y or n) [answered Y; input not from terminal]
============================================================================

file /usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/fancy.so
/usr/lib64/claws-mail/plugins/fancy.so: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64,
version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked,
BuildID[sha1]=0x8afc87fb166759f7c415d77b9058f827325b1739, not stripped

  Unfortunally, I don't know how to see .so version, but in strings I cat find
"0.9.14", so I think it's really new one.

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From lainecliff at gmail.com  Wed Dec 14 09:54:55 2011
From: lainecliff at gmail.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 08:54:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] Deleted messages when switching folders / no old
 messages from imap server
In-Reply-To: <20111213202726.00001d71@netsolutionsindia.com>
References: <20111209110218.55aac325@mepis1> <20111213103723.64b33f55@mepis1>
	<20111213164742.0000367e@netsolutionsindia.com>
	<4EE76235.9040304@gmail.com>
	<20111213202726.00001d71@netsolutionsindia.com>
Message-ID: <20111214085455.57332e4a@mepis1>

Thank you Abhay and Paul

As Paul suggested (although Claws has deleted his email now, forever)
here is the --debug output.

I sent two messages to myself from webmail into an inbox called
loobynet/imap/inbox.

Then I opened claws-mail --debug.

It's a very long file, most of which I imagine isn't relevant, but here
are the latter stages.

             
[08:50:39] IMAP4< * 530 EXISTS                                      
[08:50:39] IMAP4< * 0 RECENT                                        
[08:50:39] IMAP4< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1304189647] Ok                  
[08:50:39] IMAP4< * OK [MYRIGHTS "acdilrsw"] ACL                    
[08:50:39] IMAP4< 34 OK [READ-WRITE] Ok                             
imap-thread.c:1395:imap select run - end 0                          
imap-thread.c:404:generic_cb                                        
imap-thread.c:1481:imap select - end                                
imap.c:3398:select: exists 530 recent 0 expunge 0 uid_validity
1304189647 can_create_flags 1 imap-thread.c:2168:imap fetch_uid -
begin imap-thread.c:388:found imap
0x975f098 [08:50:39] IMAP4- [fetching
flags...] imap-thread.c:388:found imap
0x975f098 [08:50:39] IMAP4> 35 UID FETCH 1:* (FLAGS
UID) [08:50:39] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1448
bytes] [08:50:39] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1448
bytes] [08:50:39] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1448
bytes] [08:50:39] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1448
bytes] [08:50:39] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1448
bytes] [08:50:39] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1448
bytes] [08:50:40] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1448
bytes] [08:50:40] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1448
bytes] [08:50:40] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1448
bytes] [08:50:40] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 2896
bytes] [08:50:40] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1448
bytes] [08:50:40] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1448
bytes] [08:50:40] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1448
bytes] [08:50:40] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1448
bytes] [08:50:40] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1448
bytes] [08:50:40] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1865
bytes] imap-thread.c:2158:imap fetch_uid run - end
0 imap-thread.c:404:generic_cb                                        
imap-thread.c:2185:imap fetch_uid - end                             
imap.c:526:unlocking session 0x976f408                              
folder.c:4611:Folder loobynet wants sync                            
folder.c:4611:Folder loobynet wants sync                            
imap.c:5016:IMAP switching to batch mode                            
folder.c:4611:Folder loobynet wants sync
folder.c:4611:Folder loobynet wants sync
imap.c:5035:IMAP switching away from batch mode
folder.c:4611:Folder loobynet wants sync
folder.c:4611:Folder loobynet wants sync
folder.c:2037:TIMING folder_item_open : 0s263ms
summaryview.c:1028:showing  To, must show From
summaryview.c:1038:switching columns
summaryview.c:1134:called inc_lock (lock count 1)
summaryview.c:1240:Scanning folder (INBOX)...
msgcache.c:274:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
summaryview.c:1109:TIMING summary_check_consistency : 0s000ms
folder.c:4611:Folder loobynet wants sync
folder.c:4611:Folder loobynet wants sync
folder.c:4611:Folder loobynet wants sync
folder.c:4611:Folder loobynet wants sync
folder.c:4611:Folder loobynet wants sync
folder.c:4611:Folder loobynet wants sync
summaryview.c:1488:
summaryview.c:1493:called inc_unlock (lock count 0)
summaryview.c:1494:TIMING summary_show : 0s021ms
folder.c:2566:Total cache memory usage: 1709684
folderview.c:2246:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s327ms
folderview.c:2124:newly selected 0x966e5b0, opened 0x966e5b0
folderview.c:2128:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms


The last few lines are me going from the inbox, to a child folder, and
back again. I did it twice, and both my new emails were deleted.

Does the log mean anything to you?

Cliff


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 14 10:06:42 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:06:42 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2563] Claws Mail crashes when trying to view some mails
In-Reply-To: <bug-2563-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2563-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111214090642.8BF1E20207@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2563





--- Comment #8 from Dmitry Svyatogorov  2011-12-14 10:06:42 ---
"In the case of the attached msg, the subject is not UTF-8 but cp1251."
  Of course, in this specific case it is. But in more wide case, for example,
all mail from ru-ncc at nic.ru robot (.RU top domain registrar) comes with plain
KOI8-R and without any MIME. And I just can't see mail source because all 8-bit
symbols are replaced with "_".

  The example of non-readable UTF-8 MIME:
To: =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=94=D0=BC=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B9=20?=<ds at miran.ru>
From: =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=A1=D0=B8=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=B0=20=D0=B1=D0?=
=?UTF-8?Q?=B8=D0=BB=D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=BD=D0=B3=D0=B0=20?=<billing at miran.ru>
Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=98=D1=81=D1=85=D0=BE=D0=B4=D1=8F=D1=89=D0=B8=D0=B5?=
=?UTF-8?Q?=20=D0=B7=D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=BD=D0=BA=D0=B8=20=D0=B7=D0=B0?=
=?UTF-8?Q?=20=D0=BC=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=8F=D1=86?=

  Encoded by MIME::Words in one of my perl scripts, but I see "_" in place of
russian characters, while in RoundCube I see correct strings.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 14 10:55:38 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:55:38 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2563] Claws Mail crashes when trying to view some mails
In-Reply-To: <bug-2563-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2563-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111214095538.2240220207@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2563





--- Comment #9 from St�phane Goujet  2011-12-14 10:55:37 ---
About the "undefined symbol" problem, use the CVS version of Fancy :
<http://www.claws-mail.org/snapshots/plugins/>.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 14 11:08:26 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:08:26 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2563] Claws Mail crashes when trying to view some mails
In-Reply-To: <bug-2563-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #10 from Dmitry Svyatogorov  2011-12-14 11:08:26 ---
"use the CVS version of Fancy"
  Great, it works! :)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 14 11:10:51 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:10:51 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2564] New: Replacement of the deprecated function
 webkit_web_view_open() in Fancy plugin.
Message-ID: <bug-2564-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2564

           Summary: Replacement of the deprecated function
                    webkit_web_view_open() in Fancy plugin.
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: CVS
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Fancy
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: stephane.goujet at gmail.com


Created an attachment (id=1053)
 --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1053)
Replaces webkit_web_view_open() with webkit_web_view_load_uri().

The function webkit_web_view_open() has been deprecated (cf
<http://webkitgtk.org/reference/webkitgtk-webkitwebview.html#webkit-web-view-open>).
It should just be replaced with webkit_web_view_load_uri().
This patches fixes the 3 instances of webkit_web_view_open().

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 14 12:19:55 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:19:55 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2564] Replacement of the deprecated function
 webkit_web_view_open() in Fancy plugin.
In-Reply-To: <bug-2564-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2564-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111214111955.BB6A020207@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2564


Salvatore De Paolis <iwkse at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |FIXED




--- Comment #1 from Salvatore De Paolis  2011-12-14 12:19:55 ---
Hi, thanks for reporting and the patch! It has been fixed in 0.9.14cvs3

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From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Wed Dec 14 17:20:56 2011
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:20:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] navigation to site blocked
Message-ID: <20111214162056.617802b9@g8jvm.com>

Hi all
another daft question from me, when clicking on a link in mail I'm getting navigation to site blocked.
In external programs I have Iceweasle %, debian version of firefox with something removed,
the site in question has a pdf file,but I dont think the file type is of significance, I'm proable wrong
maybe.

TIA

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From stephane.goujet at wanadoo.fr  Wed Dec 14 18:04:27 2011
From: stephane.goujet at wanadoo.fr (=?UTF-8?B?U3TDqXBoYW5l?= Goujet)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:04:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] navigation to site blocked
In-Reply-To: <20111214162056.617802b9@g8jvm.com>
References: <20111214162056.617802b9@g8jvm.com>
Message-ID: <20111214180427.588e4ce8@wanadoo.fr>

Le Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:20:56 +0000,
Richard <richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk> a écrit :

> another daft question from me, when clicking on a link in mail I'm
> getting navigation to site blocked. In external programs I have
> Iceweasle %, debian version of firefox with something removed, the
> site in question has a pdf file,but I dont think the file type is of
> significance, I'm proable wrong maybe.

   Try unchecking "Block external content" in the Preferences view of
 Fancy.


Stéphane.


From pf at pfortin.com  Wed Dec 14 20:43:38 2011
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:43:38 -0500
Subject: [Users] Is this a bug, or a feature I've never noticed before?
In-Reply-To: <20111214074308.1fd4f828@thewildbeast>
References: <20111213183320.7803c153@pfortin.com>
	<20111214074308.1fd4f828@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20111214144338.15c48260@pfortin.com>

On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:43:08 +0000 Paul wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:33:20 -0500
>Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote: 
>
>> Never noticed a Subject line wrap before...  see attached screen
>> shot 
>> 
>> From emacs:
>> 
>> Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[EVG]_If_You_Want_To_Know_How_To_Profit_D?=
>>  =?utf-8?Q?uring_=E2=80=A8The_Coming_Depression_-_Read_This=E2=80=A6?=
>> 
>> Should the row height grow to accommodate the Subject?
>
>A similar issue was reported and fixed quite some time ago, see
>http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1116

Then I'm sorry to say the bug must be back cuz I'm seeing it in
3.7.10cvs112...  

Would you prefer I re-open 1116 or create a new one?

Cheers,
Pierre

>with regards
>
>Paul
>
>


From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu Dec 15 09:58:18 2011
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (Richard)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 08:58:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] navigation to site blocked
In-Reply-To: <20111214180427.588e4ce8@wanadoo.fr>
References: <20111214162056.617802b9@g8jvm.com>
	<20111214180427.588e4ce8@wanadoo.fr>
Message-ID: <20111215085818.5ebed922@g8jvm.com>

On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:04:27 +0100
Stéphane Goujet <stephane.goujet at wanadoo.fr> wrote:

> Le Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:20:56 +0000,
> Richard <richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk> a écrit :
> 
> > another daft question from me, when clicking on a link in mail I'm
> > getting navigation to site blocked. In external programs I have
> > Iceweasle %, debian version of firefox with something removed, the
> > site in question has a pdf file,but I dont think the file type is of
> > significance, I'm proable wrong maybe.
> 
>    Try unchecking "Block external content" in the Preferences view of
>  Fancy.
> 
> 
> Stéphane.
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

Thanks Stephane, thats got past that problem, but it still not either opening a browser page or if a
browser is open going to the url.. strange ?

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From stephane.goujet at wanadoo.fr  Thu Dec 15 13:42:02 2011
From: stephane.goujet at wanadoo.fr (=?UTF-8?B?U3TDqXBoYW5l?= Goujet)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:42:02 +0100
Subject: [Users] navigation to site blocked
In-Reply-To: <20111215085818.5ebed922@g8jvm.com>
References: <20111214162056.617802b9@g8jvm.com>
	<20111214180427.588e4ce8@wanadoo.fr>
	<20111215085818.5ebed922@g8jvm.com>
Message-ID: <20111215134202.6ab77871@wanadoo.fr>

Le Thu, 15 Dec 2011 08:58:18 +0000,
Richard <richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk> a écrit :

> On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:04:27 +0100
> Stéphane Goujet <stephane.goujet at wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> 
> > Le Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:20:56 +0000,
> > Richard <richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk> a écrit :
> > > another daft question from me, when clicking on a link in mail I'm
> > > getting navigation to site blocked. In external programs I have
> > > Iceweasle %, debian version of firefox with something removed, the
> > > site in question has a pdf file,but I dont think the file type is
> > > of significance, I'm proable wrong maybe.
> >    Try unchecking "Block external content" in the Preferences view
> > of Fancy.
> Thanks Stephane, thats got past that problem, but it still not either
> opening a browser page or if a browser is open going to the url..
> strange ?

  In the Preferences view of Fancy, the last option ("Open links with
external browser") should be checked.

  In the general preferences, in the view where you set the external
programs, I do not know if you made a typo when you wrote this e-mail,
but I would write "iceweasel '%s'" rather than "Iceweasle %".
  On the same view, you'd better uncheck the checkbox "Use default
system commands".

Goodbye,
  Stéphane.


From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu Dec 15 19:12:48 2011
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (richard)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:12:48 -0500
Subject: [Users] navigation to site blocked
In-Reply-To: <20111215134202.6ab77871@wanadoo.fr>
References: <20111214162056.617802b9@g8jvm.com>
	<20111214180427.588e4ce8@wanadoo.fr>
	<20111215085818.5ebed922@g8jvm.com>
	<20111215134202.6ab77871@wanadoo.fr>
Message-ID: <20111215131248.7d80a2dd@lappy.g8jvm.com>

On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:42:02 +0100
Stéphane Goujet <stephane.goujet at wanadoo.fr> wrote:

> Le Thu, 15 Dec 2011 08:58:18 +0000,
> Richard <richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk> a écrit :
> 
> > On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:04:27 +0100
> > Stéphane Goujet <stephane.goujet at wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> > 
> > > Le Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:20:56 +0000,
> > > Richard <richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk> a écrit :
> > > > another daft question from me, when clicking on a link in mail I'm
> > > > getting navigation to site blocked. In external programs I have
> > > > Iceweasle %, debian version of firefox with something removed, the
> > > > site in question has a pdf file,but I dont think the file type is
> > > > of significance, I'm proable wrong maybe.
> > >    Try unchecking "Block external content" in the Preferences view
> > > of Fancy.
> > Thanks Stephane, thats got past that problem, but it still not either
> > opening a browser page or if a browser is open going to the url..
> > strange ?
> 
>   In the Preferences view of Fancy, the last option ("Open links with
> external browser") should be checked.
> 
>   In the general preferences, in the view where you set the external
> programs, I do not know if you made a typo when you wrote this e-mail,
> but I would write "iceweasel '%s'" rather than "Iceweasle %".
>   On the same view, you'd better uncheck the checkbox "Use default
> system commands".
> 
> Goodbye,
>   Stéphane.

Thank you, it works on my laptop running Fedora FC16, and firefox, so as you
suggest its something with the iceweasle statement

BR 
Richard


From stephane.goujet at wanadoo.fr  Thu Dec 15 20:10:18 2011
From: stephane.goujet at wanadoo.fr (=?UTF-8?B?U3TDqXBoYW5l?= Goujet)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:10:18 +0100
Subject: [Users] navigation to site blocked
In-Reply-To: <20111215131248.7d80a2dd@lappy.g8jvm.com>
References: <20111214162056.617802b9@g8jvm.com>
	<20111214180427.588e4ce8@wanadoo.fr>
	<20111215085818.5ebed922@g8jvm.com>
	<20111215134202.6ab77871@wanadoo.fr>
	<20111215131248.7d80a2dd@lappy.g8jvm.com>
Message-ID: <20111215201018.16b4af60@wanadoo.fr>

Le Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:12:48 -0500,
richard <richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk> a écrit :

> Thank you, it works on my laptop running Fedora FC16, and firefox, so
> as you suggest its something with the iceweasle statement
 
  Again: weasel, not weasle :-)


From richard at g8jvm.com  Thu Dec 15 22:05:20 2011
From: richard at g8jvm.com (richard)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:05:20 -0500
Subject: [Users] navigation to site blocked
In-Reply-To: <20111215201018.16b4af60@wanadoo.fr>
References: <20111214162056.617802b9@g8jvm.com>
	<20111214180427.588e4ce8@wanadoo.fr>
	<20111215085818.5ebed922@g8jvm.com>
	<20111215134202.6ab77871@wanadoo.fr>
	<20111215131248.7d80a2dd@lappy.g8jvm.com>
	<20111215201018.16b4af60@wanadoo.fr>
Message-ID: <20111215160520.437c5fd7@lappy.g8jvm.com>

On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:10:18 +0100
Stéphane Goujet <stephane.goujet at wanadoo.fr> wrote:

> Le Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:12:48 -0500,
> richard <richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk> a écrit :
> 
> > Thank you, it works on my laptop running Fedora FC16, and firefox, so
> > as you suggest its something with the iceweasle statement
>  
>   Again: weasel, not weasle :-)


Opps !, that would make a difference

Thanks

Richard



From cl at isbd.net  Thu Dec 15 22:39:33 2011
From: cl at isbd.net (Chris Green)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:39:33 +0000
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
Message-ID: <20111215213933.GA22166@chris>

I am a long time user of mutt but I'm considering using claws as my main
E-Mail client.

However I have a couple of questions about claws:-

    How do you actually implement the external editor?  I can see the
    menu option to use the external editor and there's a configuration
    option to open the external editor automatically but I can't for the
    life of me find where one actually specifies the external editor.

    I have loaded the mailmbox folder plugin, can I keep all my mail in
    mbox format having done this or does it just allow me to import and
    export mbox?  What I *really* want to be able to do is to use either
    mutt or claws on the same hierarchy of mbox files, I can then use
    claws on my desktop and mutt when I log in remotely using ssh.

If it's of relevance I'm running Claws version 3.7.8 on xubuntu 11.04.

-- 
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From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Thu Dec 15 23:00:54 2011
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 15:00:54 -0700
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111215213933.GA22166@chris>
References: <20111215213933.GA22166@chris>
Message-ID: <20111215150054.38770ee1@yendi>

On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:39:33 +0000
Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote:

> How do you actually implement the external editor?  I can see the
> menu option to use the external editor and there's a configuration
> option to open the external editor automatically but I can't for the
> life of me find where one actually specifies the external editor.

Configuration-> Preferences-> Message View-> External Programs-> Text Editor

Enter the command to be executed, e.g.

emacsclient '%s'

where %s is the name of the file to be edited.

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From cl at isbd.net  Thu Dec 15 23:16:23 2011
From: cl at isbd.net (Chris Green)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 22:16:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111215150054.38770ee1@yendi>
References: <20111215213933.GA22166@chris>
 <20111215150054.38770ee1@yendi>
Message-ID: <20111215221623.GD22166@chris>

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 03:00:54PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:39:33 +0000
> Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote:
> 
> > How do you actually implement the external editor?  I can see the
> > menu option to use the external editor and there's a configuration
> > option to open the external editor automatically but I can't for the
> > life of me find where one actually specifies the external editor.
> 
> Configuration-> Preferences-> Message View-> External Programs-> Text Editor
> 
Ah, thanks, I had been looking in Compose (which I still think is the
right place!).

> Enter the command to be executed, e.g.
> 
> emacsclient '%s'
> 
> where %s is the name of the file to be edited.
> 
Yes, works perfectly with my favourite xvile.

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From dan_arico at aricosystems.com  Fri Dec 16 01:25:27 2011
From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:25:27 -0500
Subject: [Users] Rescuing email
Message-ID: <20111215192527.5b3bb2dd.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>

I've got my claws installation working perfectly. Now I need to rescue
my email from my broken kmail installation. Googling gives me
indications that there's a script out there that can take the kmail
format and import it. Can someone point me to it?

Dan Arico

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One OS to bring them all, and in the Darkness bind them,
In the land of Redmond, where the Sales Reps lie.


From mir at miras.org  Fri Dec 16 02:07:38 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 02:07:38 +0100
Subject: [Users] Rescuing email
In-Reply-To: <20111215192527.5b3bb2dd.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
References: <20111215192527.5b3bb2dd.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
Message-ID: <20111216020738.496f747e@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:25:27 -0500
Dan Arico <dan_arico at aricosystems.com> wrote:

> I've got my claws installation working perfectly. Now I need to rescue
> my email from my broken kmail installation. Googling gives me
> indications that there's a script out there that can take the kmail
> format and import it. Can someone point me to it?
> 
They would normally reside here: http://www.claws-mail.org/tools.php
For reasons unknown to me the page is empty.

The CVS tools folder mentions 3 script for kmail to claws-mail, if they
works or which one to use is not known to me.

- kmail2claws-mail.pl
- kmail2claws-mail_v2.pl
- kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.pl

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917
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From codejodler at gmx.ch  Fri Dec 16 02:30:22 2011
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 02:30:22 +0100
Subject: [Users] Rescuing email
In-Reply-To: <20111216020738.496f747e@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20111215192527.5b3bb2dd.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
	<20111216020738.496f747e@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20111216023022.4ad75aee@mirrors.kernel.org>

Debian have package claws-mail-tools 

v 3.7.10 in testing / unstable
http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/claws-mail-tools


From dan_arico at aricosystems.com  Fri Dec 16 02:56:59 2011
From: dan_arico at aricosystems.com (Dan Arico)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:56:59 -0500
Subject: [Users] Rescuing email
In-Reply-To: <20111216023022.4ad75aee@mirrors.kernel.org>
References: <20111215192527.5b3bb2dd.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
	<20111216020738.496f747e@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111216023022.4ad75aee@mirrors.kernel.org>
Message-ID: <20111215205659.423aca01.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 02:30:22 +0100
Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote:

> Debian have package claws-mail-tools 
> 
> v 3.7.10 in testing / unstable
> http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/claws-mail-tools

I have it installed, but I can't find any documentation on using it.

Dan


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From mir at miras.org  Fri Dec 16 03:21:41 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 03:21:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] Rescuing email
In-Reply-To: <20111215205659.423aca01.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
References: <20111215192527.5b3bb2dd.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
	<20111216020738.496f747e@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111216023022.4ad75aee@mirrors.kernel.org>
	<20111215205659.423aca01.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
Message-ID: <20111216032141.222b4374@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:56:59 -0500
Dan Arico <dan_arico at aricosystems.com> wrote:

> 
> I have it installed, but I can't find any documentation on using it.
> 
$ ./kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.pl --help
Use the following format:
	kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.pl --kmaildir=full-path-to-kmail-dir


-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
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From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Fri Dec 16 04:58:09 2011
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:58:09 -0700
Subject: [Users] Rescuing email
In-Reply-To: <20111215205659.423aca01.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
References: <20111215192527.5b3bb2dd.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
	<20111216020738.496f747e@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111216023022.4ad75aee@mirrors.kernel.org>
	<20111215205659.423aca01.dan_arico@aricosystems.com>
Message-ID: <20111215205809.4788cab7@yendi>

On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:56:59 -0500
Dan Arico <dan_arico at aricosystems.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 02:30:22 +0100
> Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote:
> 
> > Debian have package claws-mail-tools 
> > 
> > v 3.7.10 in testing / unstable
> > http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/claws-mail-tools
> 
> I have it installed, but I can't find any documentation on using it.

Locate is your friend.

root at yendi:~# locate kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.pl
/usr/share/doc/claws-mail/tools/kmail-mailbox2claws-mail.pl
root at yendi:~# 


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From richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk  Fri Dec 16 10:17:35 2011
From: richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk (richard)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 04:17:35 -0500
Subject: [Users] spell checker , fedora FC16 amd64
Message-ID: <20111216041735.02e0c01f@lappy.g8jvm.com>

Hi
I'm fing that the spell checker is non functional, the only spell checkers on
the Fed FC16 repos are aspell and hunspell, aspell is loaded.
Which spellchecker does claws use ? Fed seem to have dropped ispell.


Richard


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 16 14:01:53 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:01:53 +0000
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!
Message-ID: <20111216130153.1983e551@thewildbeast>

16th December 2011                                   Claws Mail 3.8.0

		    CLAWS MAIL  RELEASE NOTES
                    http://www.claws-mail.org
		      
Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast 
email client.

New in this release:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

* GnuTLS 2.2 is now a minimum requirement if encrypted connections to
  servers are required.

* The list displays have been updated to use newer GTK+ functions,
  this means that the expanders look different and the optional dotted
  lines have been dropped.

* A hidden option, 'summary_from_show', which controls the display in
  the From column of the Message List: 0 (default): show name,
  1: show address, 2: show name + address
		
* The image viewer now uses the EXIF Orientation.
		
* 'Generate X-Mailer header' has been added as an Account option.

* /View/Message scroll has been added, allowing keyboard shortcuts to
  be added and used for message scrolling.

* Home and End keys now function in the Message View.

* /Message/Print has been added to the Compose window.

* Updated manuals

* Update man page

* Updated translations: Brazilian Portuguese, Czech, French,
	Hungarian, Indonesian, Russian, Slovak, Spanish, Ukrainian.

* Bug fixes:
	o bug 1489, 'Filter action mark_as_read inoperative
		     following move action
	o bug 1563, 'Folder view: show complete threads if they
		     contain unread messages'
	o bug 1870, 'arrow scrolling in filters'
	o bug 2116, 'Rip spaces off server names in account
		     configuration'
	o bug 2127, 'SSL cert check uses canonical name instead of
		     specified name'
	o bug 2177, 'addrbook/addrbook-00000?.xml is not deleted
		     after removing the address book in the GUI'
	o bug 2303, 'Next unread message enables message view'
	o bug 2310, 'Crash when hitting Ctrl+R to reply to a 
		     particular mail'
	o bug 2377, 'Show All Headers - make change persistent
		     between sessions'
	o bug 2402, 'GnuTLS change breaks socket communication'
	o bug 2404, 'matcherrc updates upon account renaming'
	o bug 2406, 'some part of accountrc not updated upon account
		     rename'
	o bug 2408, 'Some UI elements are not persistent between
		     sessions'
	o bug 2422, 'Toggle Message View w/ V crashes Claws'
	o bug 2479, 'LDIF address book import matches tags case
		     sensitive'
	o bug 2481, 'do not scroll "from" dropdown list and sender
		     address'
	o bug 2493, 'Subscription pull down should be alphabetized'
	o bug 2502, 'gnutls_transport_set_lowat removed in gnutls
		     3.0.3'
	o bug 2505, 'tagsdb becomes polluted with old folder entries'
	o bug 2509, 'manually added headers are lost unless mail is
		     sent inmediately'
	o bug 2520, 'Please remove verbose "No further processing
		     after rule %s" message.'
	o bug 2525, 'Address completion window does not get keyboard
		     focus'
	o bug 2526, 'When reading message in separate window, n and p
		     keys do not work'
	o bug 2529, 'crash in mimeview_start_drag after deleting
		     message'
	o bug 2543, 'filter actions in actionsrc not updated upon
		     account renaming'
	o bug 2560, 'crash when unsubscribing newsgroup and having
		     active search field'
	o Fix focus problem on Gnome shell
	o Fix flicker on recursive quicksearch
	o Fix huge slowness induced by spellcheck "while typing"
	  during initial quote rewraps.
	o Fix build with GLib 2.31.
	o Fix crasher when spellchecking is not enabled
	o Fix compose window size saving/restoring

For further details of the numbered bugs listed above consult
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 16 14:02:58 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:02:58 +0000
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail Extra Plugins 3.8.0 unleashed!!
Message-ID: <20111216130258.6ecc0aff@thewildbeast>

16th December 2011                     Claws Mail Extra Plugins 3.8.0
---------------------------------------------------------------------

The claws-mail-extra-plugins-3.8.0 package contains 21 plugins.

Notes for this release
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

* acpi Notifier 1.0.26
  Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>

  Enables mail notification via LEDs on some laptops. Options can be
  found on the 'Plugins/Acpi Notifier' page of the preferences.
  
  Changes: Added Lenovo's Thinklights.
	   Updated translations: French, Indonesian, Russian, Slovak.

* Address Keeper 1.0.5
  Author: Ricardo Mones Lastra <ricardo at mones.org>
  
  Keeps all recipient addresses in an addressbook folder.
  
  Changes: Added translations: German, Russian.
	   Updated translations: French, Indonesian, Slovak.
	   Fixed win32 libtool call.
  
* Archiver 0.6.11
  Author: Michael Rasmussen <mir at datanom.net>

  This plugin adds archiving features to Claws Mail.

  It enables you to select a mail folder that you want to be archived,
  and then choose a name, format and location for the archive.
  Subfolders can be included and MD5 checksums can be added for each
  file in the archive. Several archiving options are also available.

  The archive can be stored as: TAR, PAX, SHAR or CPIO

  The archive can be compressed using: GZIP/ZIP or BZIP2

  The archives can be restored with any standard tool that supports
  the chosen format and compression.

  The supported folder types are MH, IMAP, RSSyl and vCalendar.

  To activate the archiving feature go to /Tools/Create Archive

  Default options can be set in
  /Configuration/Preferences/Plugins/Mail Archiver
  
  Changes: Updated translations: Russian.
  
* attachwarner 0.2.23
  Author: Ricardo Mones Lastra <ricardo at mones.org>

  Warns when the user composes a message mentioning an attachment in
  the message body but without attaching any files to the message.
  
  Changes: Show mail context which has triggered the alert of a 
	   missing attachment. Probably fixes Ubuntu request #190201.
	   Updated translations: Czech, French, Hungarian,
	   Indonesian, Russian, Slovak, Spanish.
  
* att_remover 1.0.13
  Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>

  Enables the removal of attachments from emails.
  When right-clicking a message, choose 'Remove attachments' from 
  the submenu.
  
  Changes: Fixed bug 2555, 'att_remover plugin crash case'.

* bsfilter 1.0.7
  Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>

  This plugin can check all messages that are received from an
  IMAP, LOCAL or POP account for spam using Bsfilter.
  
  Changes: Updated translations: French, Indonesian, Russian, Slovak,
	   Spanish.
	   Fixed win32 libtool call.

* clamd 3.5.3
  Author: Michael Rasmussen <mir at datanom.net>

  Scans all messages that are received from an IMAP, LOCAL or POP
  account using clamd (ClamAV).
  
  Changes: Updated translations: Indonesian, Slovak.
  
* Fancy 0.9.15
  Author: Salvatore De Paolis <iwkse at claws-mail.org>

  This plugin renders HTML e-mail using the WebKit library.
  
  Changes: Fixed bug 2507, 'webkit_web_view_get_selected_text
	   undefined'.
	   Fixed bug 2564, 'Replacement of the deprecated function
	   webkit_web_view_open() with webkit_web_view_load_uri()'.
	   Updated translations: French, Indonesian, Russian, Slovak,
	   Spanish.

* fetchinfo 0.4.24
  Author: Claws Mail Team <users at lists.claws-mail.org>

  Inserts headers containing some download information: UIDL, 
  Claws Mail account name, POP server, user ID and retrieval time.

* GData 0.3
  Author: Holger Berndt <berndth at gmx.de>
  
  This plugin provides access to the GData protocol.
  The GData protocol is an interface to Google services.
  Currently, the only implemented functionality is to include Google
  Contacts into the Tab-address completion.
  
  Changes: Add support for libgdata 0.9.
	   Preserve sort order.
	   Query asynchronously on plugin load, re-query 
	   periodically.
	   Start a query when prefs page is saved and when switching
	   from offline to online mode.
	   Log actions that require networking to the network log.
	   Save contacts cache for offline use.
	   Added translations: Brazilian Portuguese, Czech, French,
	   Hungarian, Indonesian, Slovak, Spanish.

* GeoLocation 0.0.7
  Author: Holger Berndt <berndth at gmx.de>

  This plugin provides GeoLocation functionality.
  
  Changes: When coordinates could not be infered, at least try to
	   identify the country.
	   Updated translations: Brazilian Portuguese, Czech, French,
	   Hungarian, Indonesian, Slovak, Spanish.

* gtkhtml2_viewer 0.32
  Authors: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>

  Renders HTML mail using the gtkhtml2 rendering widget.
  Optional requirement: libcurl (for fetching images)

  The option, 'Do not load remote links in mails' can be found
  on the 'Plugins/GtkHtml2 Viewer' page of the preferences.

  Changes: GTK+2.16 fix.
	   Updated translations: Indonesian, Slovak.

	   Fixed win32 libtool call.
  
* mailmbox 1.14.6
  Author: Hoà Viêt Dinh <hoa at users.sf.net>

  Handles mailboxes in mbox format.
  
  Changes: Update Actions on folder renaming.

* newmail 0.0.15
  Author: H.Merijn Brand <h.m.brand at xs4all.nl>

  Writes a msg header summary to a log file (Default: ~/Mail/NewLog)
  on arrival of new mail *after* sorting.
 
* notification 0.29
  Author: Holger Berndt <berndth at gmx.de>

  Provides various ways to notify the user of new and unread email.  

  Currently implemented are the following modules:
	Banner:   A mail ticker
	Popup:    A popup window on mail arrival
	Command:  Executes a command line upon new mail arrival (NEW)
	LCDproc:  Display the status of new and unread messages
		  on an external LCD.
	Trayicon: Places an icon in the system tray that indicates
		  whether you have any new mail.

  More modules may follow in future releases. All modules can be
  activated or deactivated at compile and/or run time. Options can be
  found on the 'Plugins/Notification' pages of the preferences.
  
  Changes: Fixed build with GLib 2.31.
	   Fixed win32 libtool call.
	   Updated translations: Brazilian Portuguese, French,
	   Indonesian, Russian, Slovak, Spanish.

* perl 0.9.19
  Author: Holger Berndt <berndth at gmx.de>

  Intended to extend the filtering possibilities of Claws Mail.
  It provides a Perl interface to Claws Mail's filtering 
  mechanism, allowing the use of full Perl power in email filters.
  
  Changes: Use the address completion list for checks if address is 
	   in any addressbook.

* Python 0.9
  Author: Holger Berndt <berndth at gmx.de>

  This plugin offers a Python scripting access to Claws Mail.

  Python code can be entered interactively into an embedded Python
  console, or stored in scripts under ~/.claws-mail/python-scripts.
  The scripts are then accessible via the menu of the main window.

  See the website for examples,
  http://www.claws-mail.org/plugin.php?plugin=python
  
  Changes: Updated translations: Brazilian Portuguese, Indonesian,
	   Slovak, Spanish.

* RSSyl 0.32
  Author: Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk>

  Allows you to read your favorite RSS newsfeeds in Claws. RSS 1.0, 
  2.0 and Atom feeds are currently supported.

  Changes: Fixed win32 libtool call.
	   Updated translations: French, Indonesian, Russian, Slovak.
  
* SpamReport 0.3.15
  Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>

  This plugin reports spam to various places.
  
  Changes:  Updated translations: Indonesian, Russian, Slovak.
  
* TNEF Parser 0.3.12
  Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>

  Enables reading application/ms-tnef attachments.
  
  Changes: Fixed win32 libtool call.
	   Updated translations: Indonesian, Russian, Slovak,
	   Spanish.

* vCalendar 2.0.12
  Author: Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>

  Enables vCalendar message handling like that produced by Evolution 
  or Outlook. Also supports subscribing to remote webCal feeds, and 
  exporting of your meetings or all your calendars.
  
  Changes: Implement a DBus server to impersonate 
	   org.gnome.Shell.CalendarServer and make appointments
	   visible in the Gnome calendar.
	   Use new locked mail sending.
	   Fixed bug 2516, 'vcalendar crashes claws'.
	   Fixed bug 2531, 'vCalendar has major memory leak'.
	   Fixed win32 libtool call.
	   Updated translations: French, Indonesian, Russian, Slovak.

------------------------
See the ChangeLog and README files in each of the plugin directories 
for more detail.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 16 14:21:42 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:21:42 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2565] New: Window size shrinks on every program start
Message-ID: <bug-2565-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2565

           Summary: Window size shrinks on every program start
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.7.10
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: oonadaisy at gmail.com


Created an attachment (id=1054)
 --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1054)
Series of screenshots of the problem

When I start Claws-Mail, its window is about 20 pixels shorter vertically than
on the previous startup. This happens over and over again, so that after >10
startups it's just a narrow stripe on my screen.

If I maximize the window, it will be maximized on even startups; on
odd-numbered startups, it will be about 20 pixels shorter than the desktop.

Attached is a series of screenshots.

Xubuntu Oneiric (XFCE 4.8)
GTK+ 2.24.6 / GLib 2.30.0
Locale: en_US.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8)
Operating System: Linux 3.0.0-14-generic (x86_64)

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From cl at isbd.net  Fri Dec 16 14:54:13 2011
From: cl at isbd.net (Chris Green)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:54:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111215213933.GA22166@chris>
References: <20111215213933.GA22166@chris>
Message-ID: <20111216135413.GA23125@chris>

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 09:39:33PM +0000, Chris Green wrote:
> 
>     I have loaded the mailmbox folder plugin, can I keep all my mail in
>     mbox format having done this or does it just allow me to import and
>     export mbox?  What I *really* want to be able to do is to use either
>     mutt or claws on the same hierarchy of mbox files, I can then use
>     claws on my desktop and mutt when I log in remotely using ssh.
> 
No answers to this part of my questions yet?  Is there any documentation
or description of the mailmbox folder plugin anywhere - I'm quite happy
to use it if there is.

-- 
Chris Green


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 16 15:32:43 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:32:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111216135413.GA23125@chris>
References: <20111215213933.GA22166@chris>
	<20111216135413.GA23125@chris>
Message-ID: <20111216143243.69f587ed@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:54:13 +0000
Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote: 

> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 09:39:33PM +0000, Chris Green wrote:
> > 
> >     I have loaded the mailmbox folder plugin, can I keep all my
> > mail in mbox format having done this or does it just allow me to
> > import and export mbox?  What I *really* want to be able to do is
> > to use either mutt or claws on the same hierarchy of mbox files,
> > I can then use claws on my desktop and mutt when I log in
> > remotely using ssh. 
> No answers to this part of my questions yet?  Is there any
> documentation or description of the mailmbox folder plugin anywhere
> - I'm quite happy to use it if there is.

Claws has the ability to import/export mbox built in. With the
plugin you can use an MBOX mailbox directly. 

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From lfrr at minnit.de  Fri Dec 16 15:59:19 2011
From: lfrr at minnit.de (Michael Scheer)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:59:19 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20111216130153.1983e551@thewildbeast>
References: <20111216130153.1983e551@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20111216155919.000021fe@minnit.de>

Hi,

Paul wrote:

> 16th December 2011                                   Claws Mail 3.8.0

I'm one of the 10 Users (worldwide ;-) of the Windows port and
therefore interested in Windows ports of CM and plugins.

Can you tell me about how often (in general) Windows compiles are being
released? Or is it a rather unwanted child? I like CM especially for
searching, filtering and transparent handling and saving of mails and
mailboxes, fitting my backup needs perfectly...

TIA
Michael


From list at eworm.de  Fri Dec 16 16:06:48 2011
From: list at eworm.de (Christian Hesse)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:06:48 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20111216155919.000021fe@minnit.de>
References: <20111216130153.1983e551@thewildbeast>
	<20111216155919.000021fe@minnit.de>
Message-ID: <20111216160648.2e3b541b@leda.vpn.lugor.de>

Michael Scheer <lfrr at minnit.de> on Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:59:19 +0100:
> Hi,
> 
> Paul wrote:
> 
> > 16th December 2011                                   Claws Mail 3.8.0
> 
> I'm one of the 10 Users (worldwide ;-) of the Windows port and
> therefore interested in Windows ports of CM and plugins.
> 
> Can you tell me about how often (in general) Windows compiles are being
> released? Or is it a rather unwanted child? I like CM especially for
> searching, filtering and transparent handling and saving of mails and
> mailboxes, fitting my backup needs perfectly...

I second that. Would be great to have an up to date Windows build.
-- 
Schoene Gruesse
Chris


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 16 16:17:44 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:17:44 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2566] New: wrapped Subject not bounded -- spills into
 previous message & From column
Message-ID: <bug-2566-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2566

           Summary: wrapped Subject not bounded -- spills into previous
                    message & From column
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: CVS
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message List
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: pf at pfortin.com


Created an attachment (id=1055)
 --> (http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1055)
screen shot

3.8.0cvs2 - see attached screenshot.
See also bug 1116

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From colin at colino.net  Fri Dec 16 16:21:54 2011
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:21:54 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20111216155919.000021fe@minnit.de>
References: <20111216130153.1983e551@thewildbeast>
	<20111216155919.000021fe@minnit.de>
Message-ID: <20111216162154.4aeec4d5@colin.i-run.fr>

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:59:19 +0100, Michael Scheer <lfrr at minnit.de>
wrote:

> I'm one of the 10 Users (worldwide ;-) of the Windows port 

I hope there's more, given all the work it gives :)

I'll try to provide a new build soon. That'll probably be next week,
for family reasons.

HTH,
-- 
Colin


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 16 16:24:58 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:24:58 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2566] wrapped Subject not bounded -- spills into
 previous message & From column
In-Reply-To: <bug-2566-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2566-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111216152458.CD9111FE02@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2566





--- Comment #1 from Paul  2011-12-16 16:24:58 ---
can you attach the msg, or send it privately?

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From lfrr at minnit.de  Fri Dec 16 16:47:35 2011
From: lfrr at minnit.de (Michael Scheer)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:47:35 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20111216162154.4aeec4d5@colin.i-run.fr>
References: <20111216130153.1983e551@thewildbeast>
	<20111216155919.000021fe@minnit.de>
	<20111216162154.4aeec4d5@colin.i-run.fr>
Message-ID: <20111216164735.000067b3@minnit.de>

Colin Leroy wrote:

> I hope there's more, given all the work it gives :)

Yeah, I guess porting is a hard job. Do you think there are even 11
Windows users?-)

> I'll try to provide a new build soon. That'll probably be next week,
> for family reasons.

Thanks Colin.

Best regards
Michael


From subscript at free.fr  Fri Dec 16 16:54:00 2011
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:54:00 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20111216164735.000067b3@minnit.de>
References: <20111216130153.1983e551@thewildbeast>
	<20111216155919.000021fe@minnit.de>
	<20111216162154.4aeec4d5@colin.i-run.fr>
	<20111216164735.000067b3@minnit.de>
Message-ID: <20111216165400.71596b46@monolith>

Hello Michael,


On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:47:35 +0100 Michael Scheer <lfrr at minnit.de> wrote:

> Colin Leroy wrote:
> 
> > I hope there's more, given all the work it gives :)
> 
> Yeah, I guess porting is a hard job. Do you think there are even 11
> Windows users?-)
> 
> > I'll try to provide a new build soon. That'll probably be next week,
> > for family reasons.

12!


Regards,

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From rol at witbe.net  Fri Dec 16 17:49:41 2011
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:49:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20111216130153.1983e551@thewildbeast>
References: <20111216130153.1983e551@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20111216174941.2d8061a4@tux.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello,

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:01:53 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> 16th December 2011                                   Claws Mail 3.8.0
> 

As usual, thanks to all of you for that _great_ work !

CM 3.8.0, compiled and running perfectly on a F15 x86_64 system.
Compiled-in Features
 compface adds support for the X-Face header
 Enchant adds support for spell checking
 GnuTLS adds support for encrypted connections to servers
 IPv6 adds support for IPv6 addresses, the new Internet addressing protocol
 iconv allows converting to and from different character sets
NO JPILOT
 LDAP adds support for LDAP shared addressbooks
 libetpan adds support for IMAP and NNTP servers
 libSM adds support for session handling
 NetworkManager adds support for detection of network connection changes

Also, maybe it's time to stop using "the new Internet addressing protocol"
for IPv6 ;)

Paul

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From cl at isbd.net  Fri Dec 16 17:58:18 2011
From: cl at isbd.net (Chris Green)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:58:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111216143243.69f587ed@thewildbeast>
References: <20111215213933.GA22166@chris> <20111216135413.GA23125@chris>
	<20111216143243.69f587ed@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20111216165818.GA26569@chris>

On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 02:32:43PM +0000, Paul wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:54:13 +0000
> Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote: 
> 
> > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 09:39:33PM +0000, Chris Green wrote:
> > > 
> > >     I have loaded the mailmbox folder plugin, can I keep all my
> > > mail in mbox format having done this or does it just allow me to
> > > import and export mbox?  What I *really* want to be able to do is
> > > to use either mutt or claws on the same hierarchy of mbox files,
> > > I can then use claws on my desktop and mutt when I log in
> > > remotely using ssh. 
> > No answers to this part of my questions yet?  Is there any
> > documentation or description of the mailmbox folder plugin anywhere
> > - I'm quite happy to use it if there is.
> 
> Claws has the ability to import/export mbox built in. With the
> plugin you can use an MBOX mailbox directly. 
> 
Hmm, but how exactly?  I.e.  I have installed/loaded the plugin and I
have pointed claws at a directory hierarchy full of mbox mailboxes - and
nothing useful happens. 

What's not clear (to me anyway) is, when the mailmbox plugin is loaded,
whether claws will *only* work with mbox files or what.  Also, can it
cope with a directory hierarchy full of mbox files, will it 'see' them
all without me having to do any more?  If I have to tell it about each
mbox individually it's going to be a bit laborious, a quick count using
wc suggests there's something like 1000 of them.

-- 
Chris Green


From mir at miras.org  Fri Dec 16 18:18:59 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:18:59 +0100
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111216165818.GA26569@chris>
References: <20111215213933.GA22166@chris> <20111216135413.GA23125@chris>
	<20111216143243.69f587ed@thewildbeast>
	<20111216165818.GA26569@chris>
Message-ID: <20111216181859.4416157a@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:58:18 +0000
Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote:

> Hmm, but how exactly?  I.e.  I have installed/loaded the plugin and I
> have pointed claws at a directory hierarchy full of mbox mailboxes - and
> nothing useful happens. 
> 
I assume the folders in question are related to a configured account?

> What's not clear (to me anyway) is, when the mailmbox plugin is loaded,
> whether claws will *only* work with mbox files or what.  Also, can it
> cope with a directory hierarchy full of mbox files, will it 'see' them
> all without me having to do any more?  If I have to tell it about each
> mbox individually it's going to be a bit laborious, a quick count using
> wc suggests there's something like 1000 of them.
> 
In the folder view right-click on the account->Check for new folders

Does this discover the hole directory tree?

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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Fri Dec 16 18:43:20 2011
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:43:20 +0000
Subject: [Users] Error while building 3.80cvs2
Message-ID: <20111216174320.4a4e52c3@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>

Just in the process of building the new version and I see this error
while compiling. Looks like there is an .xpm file missing, is this just
for the cvs snapshot? Or maybe it's not there in the tarball. I'll have
to have a look...

gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I./common -Icommon -I./gtk -I./etpan -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Claws-Mail\" -DLOCALEDIR=\""/usr/share/locale"\" -DPIXMAP_DIR=\""/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps"\" -DMANUALDIR=\""/usr/share/doc/claws-mail/manual"\" -DFAQDIR=\"""\" -DTARGET_ALIAS=\""x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/etc"\" -DDATAROOTDIR=\""/usr/share"\" -pthread -I/usr/include/enchant -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include   -pthread -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng12   -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64  -I/usr/include/startup-notification-1.0     -pthread -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/lib64/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include   -I/usr/include/NetworkManager      -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m64 -mtune=generic -Wno-unused-function -Wno-pointer-sign -Wall -pthread -I/usr/include/enchant -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include -c summary_search.c
stock_pixmap.c:60:45: fatal error: pixmaps/replied_and_forwarded.xpm: No such file or directory
compilation terminated.

gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I./common -Icommon -I./gtk -I./etpan -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Claws-Mail\" -DLOCALEDIR=\""/usr/share/locale"\" -DPIXMAP_DIR=\""/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps"\" -DMANUALDIR=\""/usr/share/doc/claws-mail/manual"\" -DFAQDIR=\"""\" -DTARGET_ALIAS=\""x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/etc"\" -DDATAROOTDIR=\""/usr/share"\" -pthread -I/usr/include/enchant -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include   -pthread -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng12   -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64  -I/usr/include/startup-notification-1.0     -pthread -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/lib64/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include   -I/usr/include/NetworkManager      -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m64 -mtune=generic -Wno-unused-function -Wno-pointer-sign -Wall -pthread -I/usr/include/enchant -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include -c summaryview.c

make[4]: *** [stock_pixmap.o] Error 1
make[4]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
make[4]: Leaving directory `/var/build/BUILD/claws-mail-3.8.0cvs2/src'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/build/BUILD/claws-mail-3.8.0cvs2/src'
make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/build/BUILD/claws-mail-3.8.0cvs2/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/build/BUILD/claws-mail-3.8.0cvs2'
make: *** [all] Error 2
error: Bad exit status from /home/bdm/rpmbuild/tmp/rpm-tmp.Giliw1 (%build)


-- 

Brian Morrison

                "I am not young enough to know everything"
                                                          Oscar Wilde


From c0rn at o2.pl  Fri Dec 16 18:44:52 2011
From: c0rn at o2.pl (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3_P=EAkala?=)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:44:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] spell checker , fedora FC16 amd64
In-Reply-To: <20111216041735.02e0c01f@lappy.g8jvm.com>
References: <20111216041735.02e0c01f@lappy.g8jvm.com>
Message-ID: <20111216184453.620336ab@o2.pl>

Dnia 2011-12-16, o godz. 04:17:35
richard <richard.bown at blueyonder.co.uk> napisał(a):

>Hi
>I'm fing that the spell checker is non functional, the only spell
>checkers on the Fed FC16 repos are aspell and hunspell, aspell is
>loaded. Which spellchecker does claws use ? Fed seem to have dropped
>ispell.

What about enchant? Claws Mail uses it to find installed spellcheckers
you mentioned and checks spelling with checker that is available on
your system.

-- 
pozdrawiam / with regards
Paweł Pękala


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Fri Dec 16 18:58:00 2011
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:58:00 +0000
Subject: [Users] Error while building 3.80cvs2
In-Reply-To: <20111216174320.4a4e52c3@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20111216174320.4a4e52c3@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20111216175800.2c7580a3@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:43:20 +0000
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

> Looks like there is an .xpm file missing, is this just
> for the cvs snapshot? Or maybe it's not there in the tarball. I'll have
> to have a look...

Not present in the tarball either, please could someone put up an
amended snapshot file and indeed the release version tarball?

Cheers!

-- 

Brian Morrison

                "I am not young enough to know everything"
                                                          Oscar Wilde


From mir at miras.org  Fri Dec 16 19:00:03 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:00:03 +0100
Subject: [Users] Error while building 3.80cvs2
In-Reply-To: <20111216174320.4a4e52c3@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20111216174320.4a4e52c3@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20111216190003.35fa7b67@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:43:20 +0000
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

> Just in the process of building the new version and I see this error
> while compiling. Looks like there is an .xpm file missing, is this just
> for the cvs snapshot? Or maybe it's not there in the tarball. I'll have
> to have a look...
The file in question is in CVS so it must be missing in the tarball
provided by download.

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From subscript at free.fr  Fri Dec 16 19:09:20 2011
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:09:20 +0100
Subject: [Users] Error while building 3.80cvs2
In-Reply-To: <20111216175800.2c7580a3@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20111216174320.4a4e52c3@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20111216175800.2c7580a3@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20111216190920.4badb5bb@monolith>

Hello Brian,


On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:58:00 +0000 Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:43:20 +0000
> Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > Looks like there is an .xpm file missing, is this just
> > for the cvs snapshot? Or maybe it's not there in the tarball. I'll have
> > to have a look...
> 
> Not present in the tarball either, please could someone put up an
> amended snapshot file and indeed the release version tarball?

If you need the file.. I don't understand why it's not in the
snapshots, but it's attached here, waiting for a fixed snapshot!


Regards,

-- 
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From mir at miras.org  Fri Dec 16 19:17:53 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:17:53 +0100
Subject: [Users] Error while building 3.80cvs2
In-Reply-To: <20111216174320.4a4e52c3@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20111216174320.4a4e52c3@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20111216191753.537478a3@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:43:20 +0000
Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:

> stock_pixmap.c:60:45: fatal error: pixmaps/replied_and_forwarded.xpm: No such file or directory
> compilation terminated.
Fix build system. Uploaded as 3.8.0cvs3

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 16 19:23:30 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:23:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111216165818.GA26569@chris>
References: <20111215213933.GA22166@chris> <20111216135413.GA23125@chris>
	<20111216143243.69f587ed@thewildbeast>
	<20111216165818.GA26569@chris>
Message-ID: <20111216182330.6b5f2987@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:58:18 +0000
Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote: 

> Hmm, but how exactly?  I.e.  I have installed/loaded the plugin and
> I have pointed claws at a directory hierarchy full of mbox
> mailboxes - and nothing useful happens. 

You mean you used /File/Add mailbox/MBOX ?

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From CAE at eslrahc.com  Fri Dec 16 19:23:26 2011
From: CAE at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:23:26 -0500
Subject: [Users] spell checker , fedora FC16 amd64
In-Reply-To: <20111216184453.620336ab@o2.pl>
References: <20111216041735.02e0c01f@lappy.g8jvm.com>
	<20111216184453.620336ab@o2.pl>
Message-ID: <20111216132326.63b907c9@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:44:52 +0100
Paweł Pękala <c0rn at o2.pl> wrote:

> >Hi
> >I'm fing that the spell checker is non functional, the only spell
> >checkers on the Fed FC16 repos are aspell and hunspell, aspell is
> >loaded. Which spellchecker does claws use ? Fed seem to have dropped
> >ispell.  
> 
> What about enchant? Claws Mail uses it to find installed spellcheckers
> you mentioned and checks spelling with checker that is available on
> your system.

Enchant is a frontend for aspell/hunspell/aspell etc.

Fedora now uses the enchant/hunspell combo.
Actual dictionaries are still installed to /usr/share/myspell/*


    Charles

-- 
All Finagle Laws may be bypassed by learning the simple art of doing
without thinking.
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Mageia release 2 (Cauldron) for x86_64$
On SuperSize....http://www.eslrahc.com
Registered Linux user #182463
3.1.5-tmb-server-1.mga2 x86_64
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Fri Dec 16 19:24:15 2011
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:24:15 +0000
Subject: [Users] Error while building 3.80cvs2
In-Reply-To: <20111216191753.537478a3@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20111216174320.4a4e52c3@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20111216191753.537478a3@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20111216182415.7f1b6458@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:17:53 +0100
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:43:20 +0000
> Brian Morrison <bdm at fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > stock_pixmap.c:60:45: fatal error: pixmaps/replied_and_forwarded.xpm: No such file or directory
> > compilation terminated.
> Fix build system. Uploaded as 3.8.0cvs3
> 

Brilliant, thanks Michael.

-- 

Brian Morrison

                "I am not young enough to know everything"
                                                          Oscar Wilde


From linux at slavino.sk  Fri Dec 16 19:27:44 2011
From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:27:44 +0100
Subject: [Users] PGP/Inline notice charset
In-Reply-To: <20111211190107.5761bb84@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20111211182959.43e8a162@bonifac.skk>
	<20111211190107.5761bb84@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20111216192744.147e11f0@bonifac.skk>

Ahoj,

Dňa Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:01:07 +0100 Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org>
napísal:

> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:29:59 +0100
> Slavko <linux at slavino.sk> wrote:
> 
> >  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15
> > 
> > where is mixed the ISO-8859-15 (from message) and UTF-8 (from
> > translation) or something other.
> > 
> If message contents stipulates charset=ISO-8859-15 then it is not
> allowed to have other characters in the message except characters from
> ISO-8859-15 or US-ASCII-{7,8}
> 

you are right, but mentioned notice is not part of message, but added by
plugin. By this addition, the CM must switch to proper charset.

I am right? 

regards

-- 
Slavko
http://slavino.sk
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From mir at miras.org  Fri Dec 16 19:29:09 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:29:09 +0100
Subject: [Users] Error while building 3.80cvs2
In-Reply-To: <20111216190920.4badb5bb@monolith>
References: <20111216174320.4a4e52c3@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20111216175800.2c7580a3@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20111216190920.4badb5bb@monolith>
Message-ID: <20111216192909.79d88806@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:09:20 +0100
wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:

> 
> If you need the file.. I don't understand why it's not in the
> snapshots, but it's attached here, waiting for a fixed snapshot!
> 
See 3.8.0cvs3. I took the liberty to make the necessary changes since I
wasn't aware of your presens in the thread and since non-buildable bugs
needs attention:-)

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
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From cl at isbd.net  Fri Dec 16 19:31:37 2011
From: cl at isbd.net (Chris Green)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:31:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111216181859.4416157a@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20111215213933.GA22166@chris> <20111216135413.GA23125@chris>
	<20111216143243.69f587ed@thewildbeast>
	<20111216165818.GA26569@chris>
	<20111216181859.4416157a@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20111216183136.GA3894@chris>

On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 06:18:59PM +0100, Michael Rasmussen wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:58:18 +0000
> Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote:
> 
> > Hmm, but how exactly?  I.e.  I have installed/loaded the plugin and I
> > have pointed claws at a directory hierarchy full of mbox mailboxes - and
> > nothing useful happens. 
> > 
> I assume the folders in question are related to a configured account?
> 
I have played around a bit and now understand (sort of) how claws
manages mbox files.  It's not very obvious initially (IMHO).

    When you create a new account claws *assumes* that a directory
    called Mail in your home directory is the top of an MH hierarchy.
    This is what initially confused me.

    So, you have to *remove* the 'Mailbox' at the top of the
    (non-existent) MH hierarchy and then use the File-Add mailbox menu
    to add an mbox mailbox.  It still calls it 'Mailbox' even though
    it's rooted at the default 'Mail' directory.

    If you create a hierarchy of directories under the Mailbox then
    claws creates directories with the suffix .sbd to the name one has
    given them.  Thus it cannot *possibly* pick up a hierarchy of mbox
    directories created manually or with another MUA.  A claws hierachy
    of mbox files can thus (as far as I can see) only possibly be used
    by claws, unless there are other MUAs that happen to use the .sbd
    suffix (which seems unlikely to me).

So, claws apparently can't work in harmony with mutt, at least not with
mbox files.


-- 
Chris Green


From mir at miras.org  Fri Dec 16 19:35:04 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:35:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] PGP/Inline notice charset
In-Reply-To: <20111216192744.147e11f0@bonifac.skk>
References: <20111211182959.43e8a162@bonifac.skk>
	<20111211190107.5761bb84@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111216192744.147e11f0@bonifac.skk>
Message-ID: <20111216193504.00537a98@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:27:44 +0100
Slavko <linux at slavino.sk> wrote:

> 
> you are right, but mentioned notice is not part of message, but added by
> plugin. By this addition, the CM must switch to proper charset.
> 
> I am right? 
> 
Correct. I am not curtain about mailman's handling of added extra text
to messages regarding character sets but I will assume that text must
be added using the specified content-type for the original mail. If, on
the other hand extra text is added according to a Mime-formatted mail
each part constituting the hole mail can have separate character sets
(Assumption: I remember correct :-)

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
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From subscript at free.fr  Fri Dec 16 19:36:16 2011
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:36:16 +0100
Subject: [Users] Error while building 3.80cvs2
In-Reply-To: <20111216192909.79d88806@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20111216174320.4a4e52c3@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20111216175800.2c7580a3@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20111216190920.4badb5bb@monolith>
	<20111216192909.79d88806@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20111216193616.0babc5e6@monolith>

Hello Michael,


On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:29:09 +0100 Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:09:20 +0100
> wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > If you need the file.. I don't understand why it's not in the
> > snapshots, but it's attached here, waiting for a fixed snapshot!
> > 
> See 3.8.0cvs3. I took the liberty to make the necessary changes since I
> wasn't aware of your presens in the thread and since non-buildable bugs
> needs attention:-)

Michael, you did you right, definitely! I completely forgot that
EXTRA_DIST thing and thus my commit was incomplete. Thanks for fixing
it, you deserve er.. a beer or some xmas chocolat ;-) !


Regards,

-- 
wwp
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 16 19:51:54 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:51:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111216183136.GA3894@chris>
References: <20111215213933.GA22166@chris> <20111216135413.GA23125@chris>
	<20111216143243.69f587ed@thewildbeast>
	<20111216165818.GA26569@chris>
	<20111216181859.4416157a@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111216183136.GA3894@chris>
Message-ID: <20111216185154.1c37a7d1@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:31:37 +0000
Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote: 

>     If you create a hierarchy of directories under the Mailbox then
>     claws creates directories with the suffix .sbd to the name one
> has given them.  Thus it cannot *possibly* pick up a hierarchy of
> mbox directories created manually or with another MUA.

Except those which also use the sbd suffix I would suppose?

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From mir at miras.org  Fri Dec 16 20:11:37 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:11:37 +0100
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111216185154.1c37a7d1@thewildbeast>
References: <20111215213933.GA22166@chris> <20111216135413.GA23125@chris>
	<20111216143243.69f587ed@thewildbeast>
	<20111216165818.GA26569@chris>
	<20111216181859.4416157a@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111216183136.GA3894@chris>
	<20111216185154.1c37a7d1@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20111216201137.7c9d088c@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:51:54 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> 
> Except those which also use the sbd suffix I would suppose?
> 
From fileext.com:
"The SBD file type is primarily associated with 'Mozilla (Netscape)' by
Mozilla.org. Each mail folder (Inbox, Sent, etc.) is stored as two
files; one with no extension (e.g. INBOX), which is the mail file
itself (in ‘mbox’ format), and one with an .MSF extension (e.g.
INBOX.MSF), which is the index (Mail Summary File) to the mail file.
There is an optional folder bearing the mailbox name with an SBD
extension that contains any sub-folders."

So it seems to be part of the standard MBOX format to store
information of directory hierarchies in a special file.
<mailbox name>."sbd"

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
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From scachi at gmx.de  Fri Dec 16 20:14:51 2011
From: scachi at gmx.de (Ingo Arndt)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:14:51 +0100
Subject: [Users] Reply with quote does not include the full message
Message-ID: <20111216201451.607c5d1b@chicken.squirrel.local>

Hello,

I really like Claws-Mail. Only one thing is driving me nuts.
When replying to one specific friend with quote
only a small part of the message is quoted, most is lost.

I am used to hit the reply button and think about the reply 
while writing and deleting other stuff not worth to be quoted, so it is kind of bad if
forget to answer half of the questions when a lot of the quote is missing. Maybe I am
just to lazy but switching to another window for looking what may be lost is something I
don't like.

He sends his mail via a webmailer from "A1 Webmail" (Austrian Telekom)
and it seems to be a multipart message and only the first part seems to used when quoted.
There is nothing more in the first text part, only the second one is complete.
The full mail is visible when reading/looking at it in the inbox preview window.

Maybe it is a really badly broken webmailer (I don't know it) but is there a way to fix it
in claws-mail ?
Other mail client seems to have no problem with his mails (Thunderbird and Outlook).
Sylpheed does suffer the same problem as Claws-Mail.


Best regards,
Ingo


Some parts of the mail source (mail content is german):


==============a part of the mail source=============
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 
	boundary="----=_Part_10131_28062982.1324028297120"
==============a part of the mail source END==========



==============another  part of the mail source=============
------=_Part_10131_28062982.1324028297120
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello,

... finde ich ja total super, dass Du fragst, bin momentan n=C3=A4mlich etw=
as versumpft, hier in meiner Welt!

Du kennst mich doch, ich habe keinen Plan und schon gar nicht f=C3=BCr Weih=
nachten/Sylvester!
------=_Part_10131_28062982.1324028297120
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey Keule,<BR><BR>... finde ich ja total super, dass Du fragst, bin momenta=
n n=C3=A4mlich etwas versumpft, hier in meiner Welt!<BR><BR>Du kennst mich =
=======a lot of more mail message content until Part end==========
------=_Part_10131_28062982.1324028297120--
==============another  part of the mail source END===========


From littlergirl at gmail.com  Fri Dec 16 20:29:24 2011
From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:29:24 -0500
Subject: [Users] Reply with quote does not include the full message
In-Reply-To: <20111216201451.607c5d1b@chicken.squirrel.local>
References: <20111216201451.607c5d1b@chicken.squirrel.local>
Message-ID: <4eeb9c15.0aaee00a.5fa3.3f91@mx.google.com>

Hey there,

Ingo Arndt wrote:

> I really like Claws-Mail. Only one thing is driving me nuts.
> When replying to one specific friend with quote
> only a small part of the message is quoted, most is lost.

This probably isn't what's causing it, but if you highlight or select
part of a message before replying, then only the selected part is
quoted.

-- 
Little Girl

There is no spoon.


From cl at isbd.net  Fri Dec 16 21:43:41 2011
From: cl at isbd.net (Chris Green)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:43:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111216185154.1c37a7d1@thewildbeast>
References: <20111215213933.GA22166@chris> <20111216135413.GA23125@chris>
	<20111216143243.69f587ed@thewildbeast>
	<20111216165818.GA26569@chris>
	<20111216181859.4416157a@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111216183136.GA3894@chris>
	<20111216185154.1c37a7d1@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20111216204340.GA4847@chris>

On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 06:51:54PM +0000, Paul wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:31:37 +0000
> Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote: 
> 
> >     If you create a hierarchy of directories under the Mailbox then
> >     claws creates directories with the suffix .sbd to the name one
> > has given them.  Thus it cannot *possibly* pick up a hierarchy of
> > mbox directories created manually or with another MUA.
> 
> Except those which also use the sbd suffix I would suppose?
> 
Well maybe!  :-)

However it means that creating a hierarchy manually and looking at it
manually (i.e. from the command line) is never really going to work with
claws. 

-- 
Chris Green


From cl at isbd.net  Fri Dec 16 21:45:29 2011
From: cl at isbd.net (Chris Green)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:45:29 +0000
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111216201137.7c9d088c@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20111215213933.GA22166@chris> <20111216135413.GA23125@chris>
	<20111216143243.69f587ed@thewildbeast>
	<20111216165818.GA26569@chris>
	<20111216181859.4416157a@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111216183136.GA3894@chris>
	<20111216185154.1c37a7d1@thewildbeast>
	<20111216201137.7c9d088c@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20111216204529.GB4847@chris>

On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 08:11:37PM +0100, Michael Rasmussen wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:51:54 +0000
> Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Except those which also use the sbd suffix I would suppose?
> > 
> From fileext.com:
> "The SBD file type is primarily associated with 'Mozilla (Netscape)' by
> Mozilla.org. Each mail folder (Inbox, Sent, etc.) is stored as two
> files; one with no extension (e.g. INBOX), which is the mail file
> itself (in ‘mbox’ format), and one with an .MSF extension (e.g.
> INBOX.MSF), which is the index (Mail Summary File) to the mail file.
> There is an optional folder bearing the mailbox name with an SBD
> extension that contains any sub-folders."
> 
> So it seems to be part of the standard MBOX format to store
> information of directory hierarchies in a special file.
> <mailbox name>."sbd"
> 
Since when has Mozilla/Netscape been the standard for mbox hierarchies? :-)

Yes, it's a way of allowing one to have mailboxes and directories with
the 'same' name, but it's by no means a standard way of doing it I don't
think. 

-- 
Chris Green


From John at wexfordpress.com  Fri Dec 16 21:54:12 2011
From: John at wexfordpress.com (john Culleton)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:54:12 -0500
Subject: [Users] Received file size
Message-ID: <20111216155412.1127d549@sda8.wexfordpress.net>

In reference to received file size, if I don't check that block
at all for a given account will that allow any size file to be
received? 

--
John Culleton
Free list of books for self-publishers:
http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html

"Create Book Covers with Scribus"
http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html


From subscript at free.fr  Fri Dec 16 21:55:34 2011
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:55:34 +0100
Subject: [Users] Received file size
In-Reply-To: <20111216155412.1127d549@sda8.wexfordpress.net>
References: <20111216155412.1127d549@sda8.wexfordpress.net>
Message-ID: <20111216215534.2f374821@monolith>

Hello john,


On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:54:12 -0500 john Culleton <John at wexfordpress.com> wrote:

> In reference to received file size, if I don't check that block
> at all for a given account will that allow any size file to be
> received?

If you don't check the "receive size limit" check-box, this particular
check/filter won't apply, meaning that you will download emails
regardless to what size they are. There will be no size limit applied.


Regards,

-- 
wwp
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From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Fri Dec 16 22:38:47 2011
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:38:47 -0800
Subject: [Users] 3.8.0 possible bug
Message-ID: <20111216133847.73b8e6d5@from-theboss.911networks.com>

I just installed/compiled 3.8.0 on Ubuntu Lucid 10.04.

The display of the message summaries:

* When I scroll down from the top, there's no horizontal line
* When I scroll up from the bottom, there's a horizontal line that
  appears between each message.

The "problem" doesn't exist in 3.7.10. This is a minor problem but...

-- 
Thanks
http://www.911networks.com
When the network has to work


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 16 23:07:09 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 22:07:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111216204340.GA4847@chris>
References: <20111215213933.GA22166@chris> <20111216135413.GA23125@chris>
	<20111216143243.69f587ed@thewildbeast>
	<20111216165818.GA26569@chris>
	<20111216181859.4416157a@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111216183136.GA3894@chris>
	<20111216185154.1c37a7d1@thewildbeast>
	<20111216204340.GA4847@chris>
Message-ID: <20111216220709.00120e0a@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:43:41 +0000
Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote: 

> However it means that creating a hierarchy manually and looking at
> it manually (i.e. from the command line) is never really going to
> work with claws. 

If you want to deal with mail via the command line then maybe MH is a
better choice.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From cl at isbd.net  Fri Dec 16 23:14:32 2011
From: cl at isbd.net (Chris Green)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 22:14:32 +0000
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111216220709.00120e0a@thewildbeast>
References: <20111215213933.GA22166@chris> <20111216135413.GA23125@chris>
	<20111216143243.69f587ed@thewildbeast>
	<20111216165818.GA26569@chris>
	<20111216181859.4416157a@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111216183136.GA3894@chris>
	<20111216185154.1c37a7d1@thewildbeast>
	<20111216204340.GA4847@chris>
	<20111216220709.00120e0a@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20111216221432.GB5530@chris>

On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 10:07:09PM +0000, Paul wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:43:41 +0000
> Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote: 
> 
> > However it means that creating a hierarchy manually and looking at
> > it manually (i.e. from the command line) is never really going to
> > work with claws. 
> 
> If you want to deal with mail via the command line then maybe MH is a
> better choice.
> 
As I already said when I first asked the question I currently use mutt, I
was just hoping that claws might work happily alongside mutt so that I
can use either a GUI mail program (when I'm at my desktop) or a command
line one (when I connect via ssh).

-- 
Chris Green


From trev at highwater.co.nz  Fri Dec 16 23:41:59 2011
From: trev at highwater.co.nz (Trev Carey-Smith)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:41:59 +1300
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111216221432.GB5530@chris>
References: <20111215213933.GA22166@chris> <20111216135413.GA23125@chris>
	<20111216143243.69f587ed@thewildbeast>
	<20111216165818.GA26569@chris>
	<20111216181859.4416157a@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111216183136.GA3894@chris>
	<20111216185154.1c37a7d1@thewildbeast>
	<20111216204340.GA4847@chris>
	<20111216220709.00120e0a@thewildbeast>
	<20111216221432.GB5530@chris>
Message-ID: <20111217114159.4cb42a17@knoll.highwater.co.nz>

Hi Chris,

On 16 Dec 2011 at 22:14 +0000 Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 10:07:09PM +0000, Paul wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:43:41 +0000
> > Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote: 
> > 
> > > However it means that creating a hierarchy manually and looking at
> > > it manually (i.e. from the command line) is never really going to
> > > work with claws. 
> > 
> > If you want to deal with mail via the command line then maybe MH is
> > a better choice.
> > 
> As I already said when I first asked the question I currently use
> mutt, I was just hoping that claws might work happily alongside mutt
> so that I can use either a GUI mail program (when I'm at my desktop)
> or a command line one (when I connect via ssh).

mutt can handle MH format fine (at least vers 1.5.21 can):

bash$ head -n1 ~/.muttrc
set mbox_type=MH

My setup allows me to do exactly what you want (fetchmail via
pop then procmail to sort, which I can view with either mutt or claws).

Regards,
Trevor.


From ricardo at mones.org  Sat Dec 17 00:13:14 2011
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 00:13:14 +0100
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111216221432.GB5530@chris>
References: <20111215213933.GA22166@chris> <20111216135413.GA23125@chris>
	<20111216143243.69f587ed@thewildbeast>
	<20111216165818.GA26569@chris>
	<20111216181859.4416157a@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111216183136.GA3894@chris>
	<20111216185154.1c37a7d1@thewildbeast>
	<20111216204340.GA4847@chris>
	<20111216220709.00120e0a@thewildbeast>
	<20111216221432.GB5530@chris>
Message-ID: <20111217001314.35c48526@sumiciu>

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 22:14:32 +0000
Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote:

> I was just hoping that claws might work happily alongside mutt so
> that I can use either a GUI mail program (when I'm at my desktop) or a
> command line one (when I connect via ssh).

  It does for me, but my folders are on IMAP which I access both with
  Claws Mail and mutt. So you may consider migrate all those mboxes into
  a dovecot¹, for example. Or not, YMMV :)

  regards,

¹http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Migration/MailFormat
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  The three principal virtues of a programmer are Laziness, 
  Impatience, and Hubris.                                    man perl
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From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Sat Dec 17 00:19:40 2011
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:19:40 -0700
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111216221432.GB5530@chris>
References: <20111215213933.GA22166@chris> <20111216135413.GA23125@chris>
	<20111216143243.69f587ed@thewildbeast>
	<20111216165818.GA26569@chris>
	<20111216181859.4416157a@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111216183136.GA3894@chris>
	<20111216185154.1c37a7d1@thewildbeast>
	<20111216204340.GA4847@chris>
	<20111216220709.00120e0a@thewildbeast>
	<20111216221432.GB5530@chris>
Message-ID: <20111216161940.61cc3123@yendi>

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 22:14:32 +0000
Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote:

> As I already said when I first asked the question I currently use
> mutt, I was just hoping that claws might work happily alongside mutt
> so that I can use either a GUI mail program (when I'm at my desktop)
> or a command line one (when I connect via ssh).

A quick experiment indicates that mutt and claws-mail play somewhat
nicely with each other. There may be some gotchas as they do different
things with the mail files.

For example I just used the archiver plugin to tar a bunch of emails
older than January 1, 2011. So far so good. I then used mutt to tag,
then delete, all of them. What I didn't know was that mutt's idea of
deleting (unless you set a variable I had not) is to rename every file
by prepending a comma to the name. I found this out, and manually
deleted the old emails. claws-mail picked up the change and quickly
adjusted its metadata files and counts.

This is a maildir environment.

-- 

Charles Curley                  /"\    ASCII Ribbon Campaign
Looking for fine software       \ /    Respect for open standards
and/or writing?                  X     No HTML/RTF in email
http://www.charlescurley.com    / \    No M$ Word docs in email

Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0  809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec 17 08:23:21 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 07:23:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111216161940.61cc3123@yendi>
References: <20111215213933.GA22166@chris> <20111216135413.GA23125@chris>
	<20111216143243.69f587ed@thewildbeast>
	<20111216165818.GA26569@chris>
	<20111216181859.4416157a@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111216183136.GA3894@chris>
	<20111216185154.1c37a7d1@thewildbeast>
	<20111216204340.GA4847@chris>
	<20111216220709.00120e0a@thewildbeast>
	<20111216221432.GB5530@chris> <20111216161940.61cc3123@yendi>
Message-ID: <20111217072321.57cde067@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:19:40 -0700
Charles Curley <charlescurley at charlescurley.com> wrote: 

> This is a maildir environment.

You mean MH, right??

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec 17 08:24:12 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 07:24:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111216221432.GB5530@chris>
References: <20111215213933.GA22166@chris> <20111216135413.GA23125@chris>
	<20111216143243.69f587ed@thewildbeast>
	<20111216165818.GA26569@chris>
	<20111216181859.4416157a@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111216183136.GA3894@chris>
	<20111216185154.1c37a7d1@thewildbeast>
	<20111216204340.GA4847@chris>
	<20111216220709.00120e0a@thewildbeast>
	<20111216221432.GB5530@chris>
Message-ID: <20111217072412.0aa3150a@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 22:14:32 +0000
Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote: 

> As I already said when I first asked the question I currently use
> mutt

I know, that's why I mentioned MH.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From scachi at gmx.de  Sat Dec 17 08:57:07 2011
From: scachi at gmx.de (Ingo Arndt)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 08:57:07 +0100
Subject: [Users] Reply with quote does not include the full message
In-Reply-To: <4eeb9c15.0aaee00a.5fa3.3f91@mx.google.com>
References: <20111216201451.607c5d1b@chicken.squirrel.local>
	<4eeb9c15.0aaee00a.5fa3.3f91@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <20111217085707.1bd7ee41@chicken.squirrel.local>

Hello,

Little Girl wrote:

> Hey there,
> 
> Ingo Arndt wrote:
> 
> > I really like Claws-Mail. Only one thing is driving me nuts.
> > When replying to one specific friend with quote
> > only a small part of the message is quoted, most is lost.
> 
> This probably isn't what's causing it, but if you highlight or select
> part of a message before replying, then only the selected part is
> quoted.
> 

I do not select or highlight anything, just replying.
If I select the whole content of the mail an hit reply the full message
is quoted. 
When I select a part of the message only the selected part is quoted.
When I select nothing only the first part seems to be quoted.
Is there an option in Claws-Mail that I may have to select to get the full message
quoted ?

Regards,
Ingo.


From littlergirl at gmail.com  Sat Dec 17 09:09:05 2011
From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 03:09:05 -0500
Subject: [Users] Reply with quote does not include the full message
In-Reply-To: <20111217085707.1bd7ee41@chicken.squirrel.local>
References: <20111216201451.607c5d1b@chicken.squirrel.local>
	<4eeb9c15.0aaee00a.5fa3.3f91@mx.google.com>
	<20111217085707.1bd7ee41@chicken.squirrel.local>
Message-ID: <4eec4e21.0aaee00a.5fa3.ffff8bc7@mx.google.com>

Hey there,

Ingo Arndt wrote:

> I do not select or highlight anything, just replying.

That's what I figured, but it was worth a try. (:

> If I select the whole content of the mail an hit reply the full
> message is quoted. 

This is as it should be.

> When I select a part of the message only the selected part is
> quoted.

This is as it should be.

> When I select nothing only the first part seems to be quoted. Is
> there an option in Claws-Mail that I may have to select to get the
> full message quoted ?

No idea. Mine works without having to change any settings. Hopefully
a developer will jump in and figure it out. (:

-- 
Little Girl

There is no spoon.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec 17 10:18:34 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 09:18:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] 3.8.0 possible bug
In-Reply-To: <20111216133847.73b8e6d5@from-theboss.911networks.com>
References: <20111216133847.73b8e6d5@from-theboss.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20111217091834.3e1a57e2@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:38:47 -0800
sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote: 

> I just installed/compiled 3.8.0 on Ubuntu Lucid 10.04.
> 
> The display of the message summaries:
> 
> * When I scroll down from the top, there's no horizontal line
> * When I scroll up from the bottom, there's a horizontal line that
>   appears between each message.
> 
> The "problem" doesn't exist in 3.7.10. This is a minor problem
> but...


Perhaps a screenshot would help explain what you are talking about??

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From pf at pfortin.com  Sat Dec 17 11:55:38 2011
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 05:55:38 -0500
Subject: [Users] CM auto-save...
Message-ID: <20111217055538.1e43cbe4@pfortin.com>

Hi,

Never noticed this before...  not sure if it's an issue; but there may be
a minor bug with auto-save (or it could be intentional...)

When composing or editing a Drafts message, it gets auto-saved to Drafts
every N (mine is set to 5) characters...  Opening the Drafts folder to
continue a previous message, or just opening Drafts with the selected
message being the one I'm working on, CM repaints the main window every N
characters.

Each time it does this, the status bar flashes (too fast to read) what
appears to be (this is what initially caught my attention):
  Sorting summary .......
  Setting .....
  Done

So... I can see the message being auto-saved.  If another message is
selected in the Drafts folder, then only the message summary flashes --
apparently being sorted and re-displayed... 

It's interesting to see CM at work... :)   

However, while trying to figure out what was happening, I did notice that
auto-save updates the message I'm working on as long as I'm ADDING
characters....  However, if I'm DELETING characters, auto-save does not
occur until I ADD characters again...

Was this an oversight, or intended? 

I know... "intended" == nothing to fix...  LOL

Thinking about it some more, it may be intentional since deleting is
destructive (notwithstanding undo)...

Should auto-save also occur when characters are being deleted?  Count
changes, not just adds..?

Curious,
Pierre




From stephane.goujet at wanadoo.fr  Sat Dec 17 11:56:40 2011
From: stephane.goujet at wanadoo.fr (=?UTF-8?B?U3TDqXBoYW5l?= Goujet)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:56:40 +0100
Subject: [Users] Reply with quote does not include the full message
In-Reply-To: <20111217085707.1bd7ee41@chicken.squirrel.local>
References: <20111216201451.607c5d1b@chicken.squirrel.local>
	<4eeb9c15.0aaee00a.5fa3.3f91@mx.google.com>
	<20111217085707.1bd7ee41@chicken.squirrel.local>
Message-ID: <20111217115640.6f412bf7@wanadoo.fr>

Le Sat, 17 Dec 2011 08:57:07 +0100,
Ingo Arndt <scachi at gmx.de> a écrit :

> > Ingo Arndt wrote:
> > > I really like Claws-Mail. Only one thing is driving me nuts.
> > > When replying to one specific friend with quote
> > > only a small part of the message is quoted, most is lost.
> I do not select or highlight anything, just replying.
> If I select the whole content of the mail an hit reply the full
> message is quoted. 
> When I select a part of the message only the selected part is quoted.
> When I select nothing only the first part seems to be quoted.
> Is there an option in Claws-Mail that I may have to select to get the
> full message quoted ?

  It would not be an option about getting the full message quoted, but
about getting the selected mime-part(s) quoted. Because claws seems to
always quote the text part (only), which seems to be the right thing to
do, except when you get a broken text+html e-mail as the ones you get
from your friend.
  I (I am not a developper) do see any good automatic way to handle
this, because how can the program know whether the text part is
incomplete or not ? I do not know how other mailers deal with it
(perhaps they always reply to the html part of text+html messages). But
there could be an option about forcing to reply to the current selected
mime-part, I suppose. It would be a bit more automatic than doing a
"select all" before replying.
  Meanwhile, did you ask your friend if there was an option in his
webmail to send text-only messages ?

Goodbye,
  Stéphane.


From pf at pfortin.com  Sat Dec 17 12:04:48 2011
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:04:48 -0500
Subject: [Users] Reply with quote does not include the full message
In-Reply-To: <20111216201451.607c5d1b@chicken.squirrel.local>
References: <20111216201451.607c5d1b@chicken.squirrel.local>
Message-ID: <20111217060448.7115994c@pfortin.com>

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:14:51 +0100 Ingo Arndt wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I really like Claws-Mail. Only one thing is driving me nuts.
>When replying to one specific friend with quote
>only a small part of the message is quoted, most is lost.
>
>I am used to hit the reply button and think about the reply 
>while writing and deleting other stuff not worth to be quoted, so it is
>kind of bad if forget to answer half of the questions when a lot of the
>quote is missing. Maybe I am just to lazy but switching to another
>window for looking what may be lost is something I don't like.

Do you see the full message BEFORE you hit Reply?

If so, at the point the message STOPS being quoted, what is in the
message?  

Any chance the sender included a line containing only "-- " (dash, dash,
space**)? This is the default signature separator after which no quoting
occurs.

** Note that the space is not visible!

Alternatively, have you changed your "Signature separator" (see
Configuration->Preferences for current account...->Compose) or in any
other account, if any, to something different and which happens to match
text in the message where the quoting stops?

>He sends his mail via a webmailer from "A1 Webmail" (Austrian Telekom)
>and it seems to be a multipart message and only the first part seems to
>used when quoted. 

Here, it sounds like only the first part is visible when reading.  

>There is nothing more in the first text part, only the
>second one is complete. The full mail is visible when reading/looking at
>it in the inbox preview window.

BUT...  here you say "The full mail is visible"...  so partial quoting is
most likely due to a signature separator...  anything else would likely
be a bug.

>Maybe it is a really badly broken webmailer (I don't know it) but is
>there a way to fix it in claws-mail ?
>Other mail client seems to have no problem with his mails (Thunderbird
>and Outlook). Sylpheed does suffer the same problem as Claws-Mail.

The devs will need a sample message which causes the problem and what
your signature separator is set to...

>Best regards,
>Ingo

HTH,
Pierre


From cl at isbd.net  Sat Dec 17 12:13:50 2011
From: cl at isbd.net (Chris Green)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:13:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111217114159.4cb42a17@knoll.highwater.co.nz>
References: <20111216135413.GA23125@chris>
	<20111216143243.69f587ed@thewildbeast>
	<20111216165818.GA26569@chris>
	<20111216181859.4416157a@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111216183136.GA3894@chris>
	<20111216185154.1c37a7d1@thewildbeast>
	<20111216204340.GA4847@chris>
	<20111216220709.00120e0a@thewildbeast>
	<20111216221432.GB5530@chris>
	<20111217114159.4cb42a17@knoll.highwater.co.nz>
Message-ID: <20111217111350.GB21783@chris>

On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 11:41:59AM +1300, Trev Carey-Smith wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> 
> On 16 Dec 2011 at 22:14 +0000 Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 10:07:09PM +0000, Paul wrote:
> > > On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:43:41 +0000
> > > Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > > However it means that creating a hierarchy manually and looking at
> > > > it manually (i.e. from the command line) is never really going to
> > > > work with claws. 
> > > 
> > > If you want to deal with mail via the command line then maybe MH is
> > > a better choice.
> > > 
> > As I already said when I first asked the question I currently use
> > mutt, I was just hoping that claws might work happily alongside mutt
> > so that I can use either a GUI mail program (when I'm at my desktop)
> > or a command line one (when I connect via ssh).
> 
> mutt can handle MH format fine (at least vers 1.5.21 can):
> 
> bash$ head -n1 ~/.muttrc
> set mbox_type=MH
> 
> My setup allows me to do exactly what you want (fetchmail via
> pop then procmail to sort, which I can view with either mutt or claws).
> 
Yes, I suppose I could change to MH format, thanks for the confirmation
that mutt and claws work together like that.

-- 
Chris Green


From cl at isbd.net  Sat Dec 17 12:15:22 2011
From: cl at isbd.net (Chris Green)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:15:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111217001314.35c48526@sumiciu>
References: <20111216135413.GA23125@chris>
	<20111216143243.69f587ed@thewildbeast>
	<20111216165818.GA26569@chris>
	<20111216181859.4416157a@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111216183136.GA3894@chris>
	<20111216185154.1c37a7d1@thewildbeast>
	<20111216204340.GA4847@chris>
	<20111216220709.00120e0a@thewildbeast>
	<20111216221432.GB5530@chris> <20111217001314.35c48526@sumiciu>
Message-ID: <20111217111522.GC21783@chris>

On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 12:13:14AM +0100, Ricardo Mones wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 22:14:32 +0000
> Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote:
> 
> > I was just hoping that claws might work happily alongside mutt so
> > that I can use either a GUI mail program (when I'm at my desktop) or a
> > command line one (when I connect via ssh).
> 
>   It does for me, but my folders are on IMAP which I access both with
>   Claws Mail and mutt. So you may consider migrate all those mboxes into
>   a dovecot¹, for example. Or not, YMMV :)
> 
I have several times changed to IMAP and then, after some weeks or
months I have changed away again.  Maybe I should try again as IMAP has
become more standardised (or at least more programs agree on how it
should work).

-- 
Chris Green


From cl at isbd.net  Sat Dec 17 12:17:51 2011
From: cl at isbd.net (Chris Green)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:17:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111216161940.61cc3123@yendi>
References: <20111216135413.GA23125@chris>
	<20111216143243.69f587ed@thewildbeast>
	<20111216165818.GA26569@chris>
	<20111216181859.4416157a@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111216183136.GA3894@chris>
	<20111216185154.1c37a7d1@thewildbeast>
	<20111216204340.GA4847@chris>
	<20111216220709.00120e0a@thewildbeast>
	<20111216221432.GB5530@chris> <20111216161940.61cc3123@yendi>
Message-ID: <20111217111751.GD21783@chris>

On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 04:19:40PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 22:14:32 +0000
> Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote:
> 
> > As I already said when I first asked the question I currently use
> > mutt, I was just hoping that claws might work happily alongside mutt
> > so that I can use either a GUI mail program (when I'm at my desktop)
> > or a command line one (when I connect via ssh).
> 
> A quick experiment indicates that mutt and claws-mail play somewhat
> nicely with each other. There may be some gotchas as they do different
> things with the mail files.
> 
> For example I just used the archiver plugin to tar a bunch of emails
> older than January 1, 2011. So far so good. I then used mutt to tag,
> then delete, all of them. What I didn't know was that mutt's idea of
> deleting (unless you set a variable I had not) is to rename every file
> by prepending a comma to the name. I found this out, and manually
> deleted the old emails. claws-mail picked up the change and quickly
> adjusted its metadata files and counts.
> 
> This is a maildir environment.
> 
As with using IMAP I have several times migrated my mutt installation to
maildir and then after several weeks have retired again having found
that it just doesn't work for me.

Maybe I need to stand back from all this once again and decide how I
should manage my mail.

-- 
Chris Green


From cl at isbd.net  Sat Dec 17 12:21:33 2011
From: cl at isbd.net (Chris Green)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:21:33 +0000
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111216182330.6b5f2987@thewildbeast>
References: <20111215213933.GA22166@chris> <20111216135413.GA23125@chris>
	<20111216143243.69f587ed@thewildbeast>
	<20111216165818.GA26569@chris>
	<20111216182330.6b5f2987@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20111217112133.GE21783@chris>

Thanks *everyone* for your patient and helpful replies.  I think I have
enough information to work on now and need (as I said) to sort of take a
step back out of the detail to take a broader look at how I manage my
E-Mail. 

As I see it I can either stay as I am and use mutt with mbox or I can
move to MH, maildir or (more radically) IMAP and use both mutt and
claws. 

-- 
Chris Green


From pf at pfortin.com  Sat Dec 17 12:49:35 2011
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:49:35 -0500
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111216221432.GB5530@chris>
References: <20111215213933.GA22166@chris> <20111216135413.GA23125@chris>
	<20111216143243.69f587ed@thewildbeast>
	<20111216165818.GA26569@chris>
	<20111216181859.4416157a@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111216183136.GA3894@chris>
	<20111216185154.1c37a7d1@thewildbeast>
	<20111216204340.GA4847@chris>
	<20111216220709.00120e0a@thewildbeast>
	<20111216221432.GB5530@chris>
Message-ID: <20111217064935.7cadd701@pfortin.com>

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 22:14:32 +0000 Chris Green wrote:

>As I already said when I first asked the question I currently use mutt, I
>was just hoping that claws might work happily alongside mutt so that I
>can use either a GUI mail program (when I'm at my desktop) or a command
>line one (when I connect via ssh).

I didn't see this as a possible solution...  I switched to CM years ago
as my total solution, even remotely...  With X forwarding over ssh, CM is
obviously a little bit slower if running over a slow link; but still VERY
usable.  Over a fast link, it's great...  

HTH,
Pierre


From cl at isbd.net  Sat Dec 17 12:57:26 2011
From: cl at isbd.net (Chris Green)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:57:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] Some questions from a possible new user
In-Reply-To: <20111217064935.7cadd701@pfortin.com>
References: <20111216135413.GA23125@chris>
	<20111216143243.69f587ed@thewildbeast>
	<20111216165818.GA26569@chris>
	<20111216181859.4416157a@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111216183136.GA3894@chris>
	<20111216185154.1c37a7d1@thewildbeast>
	<20111216204340.GA4847@chris>
	<20111216220709.00120e0a@thewildbeast>
	<20111216221432.GB5530@chris> <20111217064935.7cadd701@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20111217115725.GA3947@chris>

On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 06:49:35AM -0500, Pierre Fortin wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 22:14:32 +0000 Chris Green wrote:
> 
> >As I already said when I first asked the question I currently use mutt, I
> >was just hoping that claws might work happily alongside mutt so that I
> >can use either a GUI mail program (when I'm at my desktop) or a command
> >line one (when I connect via ssh).
> 
> I didn't see this as a possible solution...  I switched to CM years ago
> as my total solution, even remotely...  With X forwarding over ssh, CM is
> obviously a little bit slower if running over a slow link; but still VERY
> usable.  Over a fast link, it's great...  
> 
I suppose I could try this, in the past (i.e. the very distant past) the
connections were too slow for this to be practical but maybe it's more
possible now.

I do connect using a decidedly flaky 3G connection in Belgium and France
sometimes though, the speed is often only 20kB/s or so.

-- 
Chris Green


From scachi at gmx.de  Sat Dec 17 13:03:33 2011
From: scachi at gmx.de (Ingo Arndt)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:03:33 +0100
Subject: [Users] Reply with quote does not include the full message
In-Reply-To: <20111217060448.7115994c@pfortin.com>
References: <20111216201451.607c5d1b@chicken.squirrel.local>
	<20111217060448.7115994c@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20111217130333.6e513cee@chicken.squirrel.local>


Am Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:04:48 -0500
schrieb Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com>:

> Do you see the full message BEFORE you hit Reply?

I only see the full message before hitting reply if I have activated
the Option 'Choose html part if msg is 'multipart/alternative''
in preferences. Sorry, I haven't noticed that before.
 
> If so, at the point the message STOPS being quoted, what is in the
> message?  
The 'Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8' part ends.

> Any chance the sender included a line containing only "-- " (dash, dash,
> space**)? This is the default signature separator after which no quoting
> occurs.
The sender does not include the default signature sperator.
And I haven't changed it from default.

> >He sends his mail via a webmailer from "A1 Webmail" (Austrian Telekom)
> >and it seems to be a multipart message and only the first part seems to
> >used when quoted. 
> 
> Here, it sounds like only the first part is visible when reading.  
"when quoted", not when reading

> >There is nothing more in the first text part, only the
> >second one is complete. The full mail is visible when reading/looking at
> >it in the inbox preview window.
> 
> BUT...  here you say "The full mail is visible"...  so partial quoting is
> most likely due to a signature separator...  anything else would likely
> be a bug.
The full mail is visible when reading, not quoting.


Okay, long story short.
The webmailer is broken as it only includes a small piece of the mail in the 
text/plain part but the full mail in the text/html part.

Is it possible to have an option like the one for reading
Choose html part if msg is 'multipart/alternative'
but for quoting ?
Or shouldn't it quote the html part of the message if I have choosen it
to be viewed ? This way the result would always be the same, you quote what you see ?

Thanks


From mir at miras.org  Sat Dec 17 13:09:35 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:09:35 +0100
Subject: [Users] Reply with quote does not include the full message
In-Reply-To: <20111217130333.6e513cee@chicken.squirrel.local>
References: <20111216201451.607c5d1b@chicken.squirrel.local>
	<20111217060448.7115994c@pfortin.com>
	<20111217130333.6e513cee@chicken.squirrel.local>
Message-ID: <20111217130935.479bc721@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:03:33 +0100
Ingo Arndt <scachi at gmx.de> wrote:

> Or shouldn't it quote the html part of the message if I have choosen it
> to be viewed ? This way the result would always be the same, you quote what you see ?
> 
I agree to this. It should not be an option what text should be quoted
in the reply. What should be quoted should always be either what is
displayed in the message view or marked/high-listed text in said.

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

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From berndth at gmx.de  Sat Dec 17 13:30:47 2011
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:30:47 +0100
Subject: [Users] Reply with quote does not include the full message
In-Reply-To: <20111217130935.479bc721@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20111216201451.607c5d1b@chicken.squirrel.local>
	<20111217060448.7115994c@pfortin.com>
	<20111217130333.6e513cee@chicken.squirrel.local>
	<20111217130935.479bc721@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20111217133047.29e5eece@wodan>

On Sa, 17.12.2011 13:09, Michael Rasmussen wrote:

>> Or shouldn't it quote the html part of the message if I have choosen it
>> to be viewed ? This way the result would always be the same, you quote what you see ?
>> 
>I agree to this. It should not be an option what text should be quoted
>in the reply. What should be quoted should always be either what is
>displayed in the message view or marked/high-listed text in said.

That might not always be possible, though. It's possible to display
stuff that cannot be composed (e.g. when using plugins to view non-text
content).

In general, are we really sure that we do a better job at stripping
down (arbitrarily broken) HTML while preserving the intended
text structure than the sender itself?

Holger


From gour at atmarama.net  Sat Dec 17 16:16:58 2011
From: gour at atmarama.net (Gour)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:16:58 +0100
Subject: [Users] create Taskwarrior task from within Claws
Message-ID: <20111217161658.42f62fe1@atmarama.noip.me>

Hello!

I'd like, similar to The feature in TackCoach, to be able to create from
within Claws new task for Taskwarrior (http://taskwarrior.org/) todo
list mananger.

For instance I'd like to be able that after selecting some email
message in the Claws, get simple gui dialog with the possibility to
enter some paremeters of the task (e.g. subject of email msg could
become task etc.) and after submitting it, to have new task for
Taskwarrior created.

To create new task in Taskwarrior one enters something like:

task add this is new task from claws-mail and TaskWarrior would create a
new task with the "this is new task from claws mail" description.

Is it possible to achieve something like that via e.g. Python' scripting
interface, iow. without going into C?


Sincerely,
Gour

-- 
Perform your prescribed duty, for doing so is better than not 
working. One cannot even maintain one's physical body without work.

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From iwkse at claws-mail.org  Sat Dec 17 16:31:12 2011
From: iwkse at claws-mail.org (Salvatore De Paolis)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:31:12 +0100
Subject: [Users] create Taskwarrior task from within Claws
In-Reply-To: <20111217161658.42f62fe1@atmarama.noip.me>
References: <20111217161658.42f62fe1@atmarama.noip.me>
Message-ID: <20111217163112.20a6af46@net24.it>

Hi Gour,

On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:16:58 +0100
Gour <gour at atmarama.net> wrote:

> To create new task in Taskwarrior one enters something like:
> 
> task add this is new task from claws-mail and TaskWarrior would create a
> new task with the "this is new task from claws mail" description.
> 
> Is it possible to achieve something like that via e.g. Python' scripting
> interface, iow. without going into C?

You could go through actions[1].
Create a script with your preferred scripting language and makes it an action
in Claws Mail.

[1] http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Actions

HTH
-- 
Salvatore
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Dec 17 16:41:31 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:41:31 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2567] New: "Copy Link" from Fancy's right-click
 context menu not copying "completely".
Message-ID: <bug-2567-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2567

           Summary: "Copy Link" from Fancy's right-click context menu not
                    copying "completely".
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.0
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Fancy
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: nbtrap at nbtrap.com


First of all, thank you to all devs for this wonderful application. Keep up the
good work. This is my first bug report.

OVERVIEW
-----

When I right-click on a link displayed in Fancy's html viewer and select "Copy
Link", I am unable to paste the url in RXVT-Unicode. Pasting with ctl-v in most
applications works fine, but when I try to paste in RXVT-Unicode with
Shift-Insert, what gets pasted is what was previously in my "clipboard".

On the other hand, when I select "Copy this link" after right-clicking on a
link that's displayed as plain text, copying to RXVT-Unicode with Shift-Insert
works fine.

STEPS TO REPRODUCE
-----

1. Open an html message with Fancy that contains a hyperlink.
2. Right-click on the link and selece "Copy Link".
3. Try to paste the url into RXVT-Unicode with Shift-Insert.

ACTUAL RESULTS: The url is not pasted. Rather, what is pasted is what was in
the "clipboard" previously.

BUILD: Arch Linux extra/claws-mail-extra-plugins 3.8.0-1

ALSO
-----

I noticed this issue in 3.7.10, and it's still there in 3.8.0

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From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Sat Dec 17 16:56:47 2011
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 07:56:47 -0800
Subject: [Users] 3.8.0 possible bug
In-Reply-To: <20111217091834.3e1a57e2@thewildbeast>
References: <20111216133847.73b8e6d5@from-theboss.911networks.com>
	<20111217091834.3e1a57e2@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20111217075647.5886a6de@from-theboss.911networks.com>

On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 09:18:34 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

>On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:38:47 -0800
>sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote: 
>
>> I just installed/compiled 3.8.0 on Ubuntu Lucid 10.04.
>> 
>> The display of the message summaries:
>> 
>> * When I scroll down from the top, there's no horizontal line
>> * When I scroll up from the bottom, there's a horizontal line that
>>   appears between each message.
>> 
>> The "problem" doesn't exist in 3.7.10. This is a minor problem
>> but...
>
>
>Perhaps a screenshot would help explain what you are talking about??
>
>with regards
>
>Paul
>
>
>-- 
>It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
>but to a collector it is worth a fortune 
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>


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From mir at miras.org  Sat Dec 17 19:40:28 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:40:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] 3.8.0 possible bug
In-Reply-To: <20111216133847.73b8e6d5@from-theboss.911networks.com>
References: <20111216133847.73b8e6d5@from-theboss.911networks.com>
Message-ID: <20111217194028.6ed7784f@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:38:47 -0800
sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:

> I just installed/compiled 3.8.0 on Ubuntu Lucid 10.04.
> 
> The display of the message summaries:
> 
> * When I scroll down from the top, there's no horizontal line
> * When I scroll up from the bottom, there's a horizontal line that
>   appears between each message.
> 
I can confirm this. But it appears to be either a problem related to the
GTK-theme i Ubuntu or how the rules_hint is applied to the GtkTreeView.

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From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Sat Dec 17 21:56:36 2011
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:56:36 -0800
Subject: [Users] Problem replying with 3.8.0
Message-ID: <20111217125636.51091b9d@from-theboss.911networks.com>

CM 3.8.0 ubtunu lucid 10.04. I have problems with the replies

Here are the simplified headers (the almost full is at the end)

> From: Gunther Furtado <gunfurtado at gmail.com>
> To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
> Sender: users-bounces at lists.claws-mail.org

The "reply" gives:

From: sylpheed at 911networks.com
To: sylpheed at 911networks.com

The "reply list" gives:

From: sylpheed at 911networks.com
To: sylpheed at 911networks.com

"Reply all" and "reply sender" works.

Am I doing something wrong or misunderstanding?

=========Fuller headers=========

X-Claws-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.001758
Return-Path: <users-bounces at lists.claws-mail.org>
Delivered-To: sylpheed at ethelbert.911networks.com
Received: (qmail 5300 invoked by alias); 30 Jun 2011 21:54:59 -0000
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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:54:31 -0300
From: Gunther Furtado <gunfurtado at gmail.com>
To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
Subject: [wishlist] run commands without trying to open a display
Message-ID: <20110630185431.69692ed3 at azul.GBCM>
X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.24.4; powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu)
Mime-Version: 1.0
X-BeenThere: users at lists.claws-mail.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
Reply-To: users at lists.claws-mail.org
List-Id: <users.lists.claws-mail.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users>, 
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Sender: users-bounces at lists.claws-mail.org
Errors-To: users-bounces at lists.claws-mail.org

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From patrick.2 at laposte.net  Sat Dec 17 22:22:08 2011
From: patrick.2 at laposte.net (patrick.2 at laposte.net)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:22:08 +0100
Subject: [Users] ** (claws-mail:4265): WARNING **: plugin loading error: No
 such file or directory
Message-ID: <20111217222208.47aaa926@laposte.net>



Hi ,

someone have this ? 

[patrick at localhost ~]$ claws-mail
Newmail plugin unloaded

** (claws-mail:4265): WARNING **: plugin loading error: No such file or
directory

/usr/share/themes/Phoenix 2011/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:59: Clearlooks
configuration option "sunkenmenu" is not supported and will be
ignored. /usr/share/themes/Phoenix 2011/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:60: Clearlooks
configuration option "menuitemstyle" is not supported and will be
ignored. /usr/share/themes/Phoenix 2011/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:61: Clearlooks
configuration option "listviewitemstyle" is not supported and will be
ignored. /usr/share/themes/Phoenix 2011/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:62: Clearlooks
configuration option "progressbarstyle" is not supported and will be
ignored.


Patrick.


From mir at miras.org  Sat Dec 17 23:11:36 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 23:11:36 +0100
Subject: [Users] ** (claws-mail:4265): WARNING **: plugin loading error:
 No such file or directory
In-Reply-To: <20111217222208.47aaa926@laposte.net>
References: <20111217222208.47aaa926@laposte.net>
Message-ID: <20111217231136.74f8a6fb@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:22:08 +0100
"patrick.2 at laposte.net" <patrick.2 at laposte.net> wrote:

> [patrick at localhost ~]$ claws-mail
> Newmail plugin unloaded
> 
> ** (claws-mail:4265): WARNING **: plugin loading error: No such file or
> directory
You have configured claws to use the plugin 'Newmail' but the plugin is
not found by claws.
It this folder: /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/
You should be able to find 3 files:
newmail.a, newmail.la and newmail.so where newmail.so is the most
important one. If this file is not present claws will not be able to
load the requested plugin.

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917
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From patrick.2 at laposte.net  Sat Dec 17 23:23:55 2011
From: patrick.2 at laposte.net (patrick.2 at laposte.net)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 23:23:55 +0100
Subject: [Users] ** (claws-mail:4265): WARNING **: plugin loading error:
 No such file or directory
In-Reply-To: <20111217231136.74f8a6fb@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20111217222208.47aaa926@laposte.net>
	<20111217231136.74f8a6fb@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20111217232355.218c0206@laposte.net>

Le Sat, 17 Dec 2011 23:11:36 +0100,
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> a écrit :

> > [patrick at localhost ~]$ claws-mail
> > Newmail plugin unloaded
> > 
> > ** (claws-mail:4265): WARNING **: plugin loading error: No such
> > file or directory  
> You have configured claws to use the plugin 'Newmail' but the plugin
> is not found by claws.
> It this folder: /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/
> You should be able to find 3 files:
> newmail.a, newmail.la and newmail.so where newmail.so is the most
> important one. If this file is not present claws will not be able to
> load the requested plugin.
> 

it's strange when i have the plugin in this folder .

[patrick at localhost ~]$ ls /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins
dillo_viewer.so*  newmail.so*
[patrick at localhost ~]$

something another is wrong ? thanks .

-- 
- Patrick -
Envoyé depuis le monde libre par un Pc sous PcLinuxOs .


From mir at miras.org  Sun Dec 18 00:03:30 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 00:03:30 +0100
Subject: [Users] ** (claws-mail:4265): WARNING **: plugin loading error:
 No such file or directory
In-Reply-To: <20111217232355.218c0206@laposte.net>
References: <20111217222208.47aaa926@laposte.net>
	<20111217231136.74f8a6fb@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111217232355.218c0206@laposte.net>
Message-ID: <20111218000330.36e0a3ae@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 23:23:55 +0100
"patrick.2 at laposte.net" <patrick.2 at laposte.net> wrote:

> 
> something another is wrong ? thanks .
> 
Could you running in debug mode?
claws-mail --debug 2>&1 > claws-mail.debug
And send the relevant parts to the list.

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917
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From patrick.2 at laposte.net  Sun Dec 18 00:08:56 2011
From: patrick.2 at laposte.net (patrick.2 at laposte.net)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 00:08:56 +0100
Subject: [Users] ** (claws-mail:4265): WARNING **: plugin loading error:
 No such file or directory
In-Reply-To: <20111218000330.36e0a3ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20111217222208.47aaa926@laposte.net>
	<20111217231136.74f8a6fb@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111217232355.218c0206@laposte.net>
	<20111218000330.36e0a3ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20111218000856.21da0779@laposte.net>

Le Sun, 18 Dec 2011 00:03:30 +0100,
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> a écrit :

> > something another is wrong ? thanks .
> >   
> Could you running in debug mode?
> claws-mail --debug 2>&1 > claws-mail.debug
> And send the relevant parts to the list.
> 


Thanks .


claws.c:101:Starting Claws Mail version Claws Mail 3.7.10
main.c:849:runtime GTK+ 2.24.4 / GLib 2.28.6
main.c:857:buildtime GTK+ 2.24.4 / GLib 2.28.6
main.c:866:Compiled-in features:
main.c:871: compface
main.c:877: aspell
main.c:883: gnutls
main.c:889: ipv6
main.c:895: iconv
main.c:901: jpilot
main.c:907: ldap
main.c:913: libetpan 1.0
main.c:919: libsm
prefs_gtk.c:1037:new file '/home/patrick/.claws-mail/clawsrc'
prefs_gtk.c:996:new section 'Common'
prefs_gtk.c:996:new section 'Plugins_Common'
prefs_gtk.c:996:new section 'Plugins_GTK2'
prefs_gtk.c:996:new section 'NotificationPlugin'
prefs_gtk.c:1037:new file '/home/patrick/.claws-mail/folderitemrc'
prefs_gtk.c:975:cache: /home/patrick/.claws-mail/folderitemrc: Aucun
fichier ou dossier de ce type prefs_gtk.c:1075:destroying cache
main.c:2628:/dev/mem_notify not available (Aucun fichier ou dossier de
ce type) hooks.c:70:registed new hook for 'folder_item_update' as id 1
hooks.c:70:registed new hook for 'folder_update' as id 1
prefs.c:296:Found [Plugins_Common]
plugin.c:393:trying to load `/usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/newmail.so'
plugin.c:342:plugin licence check passed: GPL3+ found
hooks.c:70:registed new hook for 'mail_postfiltering_hooklist' as id 1
hooks.c:89:unregisted hook 1 in 'mail_postfiltering_hooklist'
Newmail plugin unloaded
current dir: /home/patrick/.claws-mail
current dir: /home/patrick
folder.c:121:registering folder class mh
folder.c:121:registering folder class imap
folder.c:121:registering folder class news
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:122:Found [Common]
prefs_gtk.c:147:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_themes.c:372:Creating preferences for themes...
stock_pixmap.c:496:dir /home/patrick/.claws-mail/themes not found,
skipping theme scanstock_pixmap.c:496:dir /usr/share/claws-mail/themes
not found, skipping theme scanprefs_actions.c:437:Reading actions
configurations... prefs_display_header.c:420:Reading configuration for
displaying headers... addressbook.c:4149:Reading address index...
addressbook.c:4198:done. mainwindow.c:1540:Creating main window...
toolbar.c:705:read Toolbar Configuration from toolbar_main.xml
folderview.c:576:Creating folder view... folderview.c:412:creating
tree... hooks.c:70:registed new hook for 'folder_update' as id 2
hooks.c:70:registed new hook for 'folder_item_update' as id 2
summaryview.c:517:Creating summary view...
hooks.c:70:registed new hook for 'msginfo_update' as id 1
hooks.c:70:registed new hook for 'folder_item_update' as id 3
hooks.c:70:registed new hook for 'folder_update' as id 3
messageview.c:360:Creating message view...
headerview.c:83:Creating header view...
noticeview.c:73:Creating notice view...
mimeview.c:267:Creating MIME view...
noticeview.c:73:Creating notice view...
textview.c:263:Creating text view...
hooks.c:70:registed new hook for 'msginfo_update' as id 2
logwindow.c:87:Creating log window...
hooks.c:70:registed new hook for 'log_append_text' as id 1
logwindow.c:87:Creating log window...
hooks.c:70:registed new hook for 'debug_append_text' as id 1
mainwindow.c:2187:done.
mainwindow.c:3635:Setting widgets... mainwindow.c:3847:done.
hooks.c:70:registed new hook for 'sslcert_ask' as id 1
hooks.c:70:registed new hook for 'progressindicator_hooklist' as id 1
hooks.c:70:registed new hook for 'sslcert_get_client_cert' as id 1
hooks.c:70:registed new hook for 'sslcert_get_password' as id 1
account.c:199:Reading all config for each account...
account.c:214:Found label: Account: 1
account.c:214:Found label: Account: 2
codeconv.c:1485:current locale: fr_FR.UTF-8
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:122:Found [Account: 1]
prefs_gtk.c:147:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:122:Found [Account: 1]
prefs_gtk.c:147:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:122:Found [Account: 1]
prefs_gtk.c:147:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:122:Found [Account: 1]
prefs_gtk.c:147:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:122:Found [Account: 1]
prefs_gtk.c:147:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:122:Found [Account: 1]
prefs_gtk.c:147:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:122:Found [Account: 1]
prefs_gtk.c:147:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:122:Found [Account: 1]
prefs_gtk.c:147:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_customheader.c:332:Reading custom header configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:122:Found [Account: 2]
prefs_gtk.c:147:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:122:Found [Account: 2]
prefs_gtk.c:147:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:122:Found [Account: 2]
prefs_gtk.c:147:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:122:Found [Account: 2]
prefs_gtk.c:147:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:122:Found [Account: 2]
prefs_gtk.c:147:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:122:Found [Account: 2]
prefs_gtk.c:147:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:122:Found [Account: 2]
prefs_gtk.c:147:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:122:Found [Account: 2]
prefs_gtk.c:147:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_customheader.c:332:Reading custom header configuration...
folderview.c:325:setting titles...
folderview.c:738:called inc_lock (lock count 1)
folderview.c:739:Setting folder info...
folderview.c:765:called inc_unlock (lock count 0)
summaryview.c:1134:called inc_lock (lock count 1)
summaryview.c:1207:empty folder ((nil) (null) (nil) 0)

summaryview.c:1218:called inc_unlock (lock count 0)
summaryview.c:1228:TIMING summary_show : 0s001ms
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading configuration...
folder.c:1208:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:975:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by
any .service files folderview.c:738:called inc_lock (lock count 1)
folderview.c:739:Setting folder info...
msgcache.c:602:	Reading swapped message cache
from /home/patrick/.Mail-sylpheed/queue/.claws_cache...
msgcache.c:618:using Noop Converter msgcache.c:790:done. (0 items read)
msgcache.c:791:Cache size: 0 messages, 0 bytes
msgcache.c:821:reading swapped mark file.
msgcache.c:907:reading swapped tags file.
folder.c:2705:TIMING folder_item_read_cache : 0s000ms
folder.c:2566:Total cache memory usage: 0
msgcache.c:274:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
folderview.c:765:called inc_unlock (lock count 0)
folderview.c:738:called inc_lock (lock count 1)
folderview.c:739:Setting folder info...
msgcache.c:274:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
folderview.c:765:called inc_unlock (lock count 0)
inc.c:1503:added timer = 113
prefs.c:296:Found [Plugins_GTK2]
plugin.c:393:trying to load
`/usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/dillo_viewer.so' plugin.c:342:plugin
licence check passed: GPL3+ found prefs_gtk.c:85:Reading
configuration... prefs_gtk.c:147:Finished reading configuration.
plugin.c:462:Plugin Visualiseur de HTML Dillo (from
file /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/dillo_viewer.so) loaded
plugin.c:463:TIMING
plugin_load /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/dillo_viewer.so: 0s001ms
alertpanel.c:252:Creating alert panel dialog... alertpanel.c:211:called
inc_lock (lock count 1) alertpanel.c:221:called inc_unlock (lock count
0) prefs_gtk.c:1072:no cache main.c:1679:TIMING main startup: 2s875ms
inc.c:1519:removed timer = 113
progressdialog.c:61:Creating progress dialog...
inc.c:775:getting new messages of account
patrick.2 at laposte.net@pop.laposte.net... session.c:184:session
(0x919afc0): connected [00:05:51] POP3< +OK connected to pop3 on 8401 
[00:05:51] POP3> USER patrick.2 at laposte.net
[00:05:51] POP3< +OK name is a valid mailbox
[00:05:51] POP3> PASS ********
[00:05:52] POP3< +OK user exist with that password
[00:05:52] POP3> STAT
[00:05:52] POP3< +OK 0 0
[00:05:52] POP3> QUIT
[00:05:52] POP3< +OK
session.c:353:session (0x919afc0): closed
folder.c:4267:tmpparentroot /home/patrick/.claws-mail/tempfolder
folder.c:4287:*TMP* already created
folder.c:2147:Scanning folder processing for cache changes.
mh.c:289:mh_get_num_list(): Scanning processing ...
current dir: /home/patrick/.claws-mail/tempfolder/processing
mh.c:1369:MH: forced mtime of processing to 1324163060
msgcache.c:602:	Reading swapped message cache
from /home/patrick/.claws-mail/tempfolder/processing/.claws_cache...
msgcache.c:618:using Noop Converter msgcache.c:790:done. (0 items read)
msgcache.c:791:Cache size: 0 messages, 0 bytes
msgcache.c:821:reading swapped mark file.
msgcache.c:907:reading swapped tags file.
folder.c:2705:TIMING folder_item_read_cache : 0s000ms
folder.c:2566:Total cache memory usage: 0
msgcache.c:274:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
msgcache.c:274:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
filtering.c:189:checking 0 messages
mh.c:231:MH scan not
required: /home/patrick/.claws-mail/tempfolder/processing (1324163060
<= 1324163060) folder.c:2730:Save cache for folder
#mh/TEMP_FOLDER/processing msgcache.c:1169:	Writing message
cache to (null) and (null)... msgcache.c:1250:done.
msgcache.c:1251:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s000ms mh.c:1369:MH: forced
mtime of processing to 1324163060 session.c:225:session (0x919afc0):
destroyed inc.c:775:getting new messages of account
patrick at photos-click.com... session.c:184:session (0x919c0c8): connected
[00:05:57] POP3< +OK Welcome to OVH Mail server 95
[00:05:57] POP3> USER patrick%photos-click.com
[00:05:57] POP3< +OK
[00:05:57] POP3> PASS ********
[00:05:57] POP3< +OK Logged in.
[00:05:57] POP3> STAT
[00:05:57] POP3< +OK 11 210999
[00:05:57] POP3> UIDL
[00:05:57] POP3< +OK
pop.c:273:num 1 uidl 1324066530.1306.mail521.ha.ovh.net,S=14961:
already got it pop.c:273:num 2 uidl
1324082824.18711.mail494.ha.ovh.net,S=42139: already got it
pop.c:273:num 3 uidl 1324092437.15424.mail14.ha.ovh.net,S=15381:
already got it pop.c:273:num 4 uidl
1324109872.20037.mail488.ha.ovh.net,S=6972: already got it
pop.c:273:num 5 uidl 1324134041.15067.mail225.ha.ovh.net,S=10505:
already got it pop.c:273:num 6 uidl
1324139983.27016.mail85.ha.ovh.net,S=3499: already got it pop.c:273:num
7 uidl 1324142917.7772.mail494.ha.ovh.net,S=31337: already got it
pop.c:273:num 8 uidl 1324146116.21100.mail526.ha.ovh.net,S=42930:
already got it pop.c:273:num 9 uidl
1324147301.1790.mail526.ha.ovh.net,S=3384: already got it pop.c:273:num
10 uidl 1324152677.28041.mail2.ha.ovh.net,S=18095: already got it
pop.c:273:num 11 uidl 1324158558.31995.mail214.ha.ovh.net,S=18119:
already got it [00:05:57] POP3> LIST [00:05:57] POP3< +OK 11 messages:
[00:05:57] POP3> QUIT [00:05:57] POP3< +OK Logging out.
session.c:353:session (0x919c0c8): closed folder.c:2147:Scanning folder
processing for cache changes. mh.c:289:mh_get_num_list(): Scanning
processing ... mh.c:1369:MH: forced mtime of processing to 1324163060
msgcache.c:602:	Reading swapped message cache
from /home/patrick/.claws-mail/tempfolder/processing/.claws_cache...
msgcache.c:618:using Noop Converter msgcache.c:790:done. (0 items read)
msgcache.c:791:Cache size: 0 messages, 0 bytes msgcache.c:821:reading
swapped mark file. msgcache.c:907:reading swapped tags file.
folder.c:2705:TIMING folder_item_read_cache : 0s000ms
folder.c:2566:Total cache memory usage: 0
msgcache.c:274:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
msgcache.c:274:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
filtering.c:189:checking 0 messages
mh.c:231:MH scan not
required: /home/patrick/.claws-mail/tempfolder/processing (1324163060
<= 1324163060) folder.c:2730:Save cache for folder
#mh/TEMP_FOLDER/processing msgcache.c:1169:	Writing message
cache to (null) and (null)... msgcache.c:1250:done.
msgcache.c:1251:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s000ms mh.c:1369:MH: forced
mtime of processing to 1324163060 session.c:225:session (0x919c0c8):
destroyed inc.c:1503:added timer = 343
inc.c:1519:removed timer = 343
progressdialog.c:61:Creating progress dialog...
inc.c:775:getting new messages of account
patrick.2 at laposte.net@pop.laposte.net... session.c:184:session
(0x919c080): connected [00:07:03] POP3< +OK connected to pop3 on 8304 
[00:07:03] POP3> USER patrick.2 at laposte.net
[00:07:03] POP3< +OK name is a valid mailbox
[00:07:03] POP3> PASS ********
[00:07:03] POP3< +OK user exist with that password
[00:07:03] POP3> STAT
[00:07:03] POP3< +OK 0 0
[00:07:03] POP3> QUIT
[00:07:04] POP3< +OK
session.c:353:session (0x919c080): closed
folder.c:2147:Scanning folder processing for cache changes.
mh.c:289:mh_get_num_list(): Scanning processing ...
mh.c:1369:MH: forced mtime of processing to 1324163060
msgcache.c:602:	Reading swapped message cache
from /home/patrick/.claws-mail/tempfolder/processing/.claws_cache...
msgcache.c:618:using Noop Converter msgcache.c:790:done. (0 items read)
msgcache.c:791:Cache size: 0 messages, 0 bytes
msgcache.c:821:reading swapped mark file.
msgcache.c:907:reading swapped tags file.
folder.c:2705:TIMING folder_item_read_cache : 0s000ms
folder.c:2566:Total cache memory usage: 0
msgcache.c:274:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
msgcache.c:274:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
filtering.c:189:checking 0 messages
mh.c:231:MH scan not
required: /home/patrick/.claws-mail/tempfolder/processing (1324163060
<= 1324163060) folder.c:2730:Save cache for folder
#mh/TEMP_FOLDER/processing msgcache.c:1169:	Writing message
cache to (null) and (null)... msgcache.c:1250:done.
msgcache.c:1251:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s000ms mh.c:1369:MH: forced
mtime of processing to 1324163060 session.c:225:session (0x919c080):
destroyed inc.c:775:getting new messages of account
patrick at photos-click.com... session.c:184:session (0x9583d68): connected
[00:07:09] POP3< +OK Welcome to OVH Mail server 95
[00:07:09] POP3> USER patrick%photos-click.com
[00:07:09] POP3< +OK
[00:07:09] POP3> PASS ********
[00:07:09] POP3< +OK Logged in.
[00:07:09] POP3> STAT
[00:07:09] POP3< +OK 11 210999
[00:07:09] POP3> UIDL
[00:07:09] POP3< +OK
pop.c:273:num 1 uidl 1324066530.1306.mail521.ha.ovh.net,S=14961:
already got it pop.c:273:num 2 uidl
1324082824.18711.mail494.ha.ovh.net,S=42139: already got it
pop.c:273:num 3 uidl 1324092437.15424.mail14.ha.ovh.net,S=15381:
already got it pop.c:273:num 4 uidl
1324109872.20037.mail488.ha.ovh.net,S=6972: already got it
pop.c:273:num 5 uidl 1324134041.15067.mail225.ha.ovh.net,S=10505:
already got it pop.c:273:num 6 uidl
1324139983.27016.mail85.ha.ovh.net,S=3499: already got it pop.c:273:num
7 uidl 1324142917.7772.mail494.ha.ovh.net,S=31337: already got it
pop.c:273:num 8 uidl 1324146116.21100.mail526.ha.ovh.net,S=42930:
already got it pop.c:273:num 9 uidl
1324147301.1790.mail526.ha.ovh.net,S=3384: already got it pop.c:273:num
10 uidl 1324152677.28041.mail2.ha.ovh.net,S=18095: already got it
pop.c:273:num 11 uidl 1324158558.31995.mail214.ha.ovh.net,S=18119:
already got it [00:07:09] POP3> LIST [00:07:09] POP3< +OK 11 messages:
[00:07:09] POP3> QUIT [00:07:09] POP3< +OK Logging out.
session.c:353:session (0x9583d68): closed folder.c:2147:Scanning folder
processing for cache changes. mh.c:289:mh_get_num_list(): Scanning
processing ... mh.c:1369:MH: forced mtime of processing to 1324163060
msgcache.c:602:	Reading swapped message cache
from /home/patrick/.claws-mail/tempfolder/processing/.claws_cache...
msgcache.c:618:using Noop Converter msgcache.c:790:done. (0 items read)
msgcache.c:791:Cache size: 0 messages, 0 bytes msgcache.c:821:reading
swapped mark file. msgcache.c:907:reading swapped tags file.
folder.c:2705:TIMING folder_item_read_cache : 0s000ms
folder.c:2566:Total cache memory usage: 0
msgcache.c:274:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
msgcache.c:274:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
filtering.c:189:checking 0 messages
mh.c:231:MH scan not
required: /home/patrick/.claws-mail/tempfolder/processing (1324163060
<= 1324163060) folder.c:2730:Save cache for folder
#mh/TEMP_FOLDER/processing msgcache.c:1169:	Writing message
cache to (null) and (null)... msgcache.c:1250:done.
msgcache.c:1251:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s000ms mh.c:1369:MH: forced
mtime of processing to 1324163060 session.c:225:session (0x9583d68):
destroyed inc.c:1503:added timer = 422
folderview.c:2124:newly selected 0x94120d0, opened (nil)
folderview.c:2170:Folder inbox is selected
folderview.c:2186:Ouverture du dossier inbox..
mh.c:231:MH scan not required: /home/patrick/.Mail-sylpheed/inbox
(1324163121 <= 1324163121) msgcache.c:602:	Reading swapped
message cache from /home/patrick/.Mail-sylpheed/inbox/.claws_cache...
msgcache.c:618:using Noop Converter msgcache.c:790:done. (9 items read)
msgcache.c:791:Cache size: 9 messages, 3829 bytes
msgcache.c:821:reading swapped mark file.
msgcache.c:907:reading swapped tags file.
folder.c:2705:TIMING folder_item_read_cache : 0s000ms
folder.c:2566:Total cache memory usage: 3829
msgcache.c:274:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
folder.c:2037:TIMING folder_item_open : 0s000ms
summaryview.c:1028:showing From , must show From 
summaryview.c:1134:called inc_lock (lock count 1)
summaryview.c:1240:Analyse du dossier (inbox)..
msgcache.c:274:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms
summaryview.c:1109:TIMING summary_check_consistency : 0s000ms
summaryview.c:1355:TIMING summary_show removing hidden: 0s000ms
summaryview.c:2986:	Setting summary from message data...
procmsg.c:285:TIMING procmsg_get_thread_tree thread by subject: 0s000ms
procmsg.c:295:TIMING procmsg_get_thread_tree : 0s000ms
summaryview.c:3023:TIMING summary_set_ctree_from_list threaded: 0s001ms
summaryview.c:3070:done.
summaryview.c:3073:	msgid hash table size = 9
summaryview.c:3076:	subject hash table size = 0
summaryview.c:2873:Sorting summary...summaryview.c:2887:done.
summaryview.c:2894:TIMING summary_sort : 0s010ms
summaryview.c:3092:TIMING summary_set_ctree_from_list bold_unread:
0s000ms summaryview.c:3097:TIMING summary_set_ctree_from_list : 0s014ms
summaryview.c:1488:
summaryview.c:1493:called inc_unlock (lock count 0)
summaryview.c:1494:TIMING summary_show : 0s129ms
folder.c:2566:Total cache memory usage: 3829
folderview.c:2246:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s145ms
folderview.c:2124:newly selected 0x94120d0, opened 0x94120d0
folderview.c:2128:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
folderview.c:2124:newly selected 0x94120d0, opened 0x94120d0
folderview.c:2128:TIMING folderview_selected : 0s000ms
    message/rfc822 (offset:0 length:2740 encoding: 6)
        multipart/alternative (offset:1770 length:970 encoding: 0)
            text/plain (offset:2291 length:407 encoding: 0)
textview.c:655:TIMING textview_add_part : 0s005ms
textview.c:626:TIMING textview_add_part : 0s000ms
textview.c:1067:Viewing text content of type: plain (length: 407)
textview.c:767:TIMING textview_add_part : 0s032ms
textview.c:784:TIMING recursive_add_parts : 0s032ms
textview.c:830:TIMING recursive_add_parts : 0s032ms
textview.c:830:TIMING recursive_add_parts : 0s037ms
textview.c:583:TIMING textview_show_part : 0s037ms
summaryview.c:3502:TIMING summary_display_msg_full : 0s066ms
    message/rfc822 (offset:0 length:5503 encoding: 6)
        multipart/mixed (offset:3836 length:1667 encoding: 6)
            multipart/signed (offset:3995 length:1167 encoding: 6)
                text/plain (offset:4114 length:667 encoding: 3)
                application/pgp-signature (offset:4930 length:198
encoding: 6) text/plain (offset:5317 length:153 encoding: 0)
textview.c:655:TIMING textview_add_part : 0s001ms
textview.c:626:TIMING textview_add_part : 0s000ms
textview.c:626:TIMING textview_add_part : 0s000ms
textview.c:1067:Viewing text content of type: plain (length: 649)
textview.c:767:TIMING textview_add_part : 0s028ms
textview.c:784:TIMING recursive_add_parts : 0s028ms
textview.c:767:TIMING textview_add_part : 0s000ms
textview.c:784:TIMING recursive_add_parts : 0s000ms
textview.c:830:TIMING recursive_add_parts : 0s029ms
textview.c:1067:Viewing text content of type: plain (length: 153)
textview.c:767:TIMING textview_add_part : 0s051ms
textview.c:784:TIMING recursive_add_parts : 0s051ms
textview.c:830:TIMING recursive_add_parts : 0s080ms
textview.c:830:TIMING recursive_add_parts : 0s082ms
textview.c:583:TIMING textview_show_part : 0s082ms
summaryview.c:3502:TIMING summary_display_msg_full : 0s117ms
main.c:2561:Quitting on signal 1
main.c:1724:shutting down
inc.c:1519:removed timer = 422
mh.c:231:MH scan not required: /home/patrick/.Mail-sylpheed/inbox
(1324163121 <= 1324163121) folder.c:2730:Save cache for folder
#mh/.Mail-sylpheed/inbox msgcache.c:1169:	Writing message cache
to (null) and (null)... msgcache.c:1250:done.
msgcache.c:1251:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s000ms
mh.c:1369:MH: forced mtime of inbox to 1324163121
folder.c:1208:Counting total number of messages...
main.c:975:The name com.google.code.Awn was not provided by
any .service files mh.c:231:MH scan not
required: /home/patrick/.Mail-sylpheed/inbox (1324163121 <= 1324163121)
msgcache.c:274:TIMING msgcache_get_msg_list : 0s000ms mh.c:1337:TIMING
mh_write_sequences : 0s000ms mh.c:1369:MH: forced mtime of inbox to
1324163282 mh.c:231:MH scan not
required: /home/patrick/.Mail-sylpheed/inbox (1324163282 <= 1324163282)
folder.c:2730:Save cache for folder #mh/.Mail-sylpheed/inbox
msgcache.c:1169:	Writing message cache to (null) and (null)...
msgcache.c:1250:done. msgcache.c:1251:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s000ms
mh.c:1369:MH: forced mtime of inbox to 1324163282
mh.c:231:MH scan not required: /home/patrick/.Mail-sylpheed/queue
(1324163137 <= 1324163137) folder.c:2730:Save cache for folder
#mh/.Mail-sylpheed/queue msgcache.c:1169:	Writing message cache
to (null) and (null)... msgcache.c:1250:done.
msgcache.c:1251:TIMING msgcache_write : 0s000ms
mh.c:1369:MH: forced mtime of queue to 1324163137
prefs_gtk.c:287:Found [Common]
prefs_gtk.c:331:Configuration is saved.
addressbook.c:4365:Saving address books...
addressbook.c:4368:Exporting addressbook to file...
plugin.c:260:removing /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/dillo_viewer.so rdeps
prefs_themes.c:417:Finished preferences for themes.

-- 
- Patrick -
Envoyé depuis le monde libre par un Pc sous PcLinuxOs .


From mir at miras.org  Sun Dec 18 00:18:07 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 00:18:07 +0100
Subject: [Users] ** (claws-mail:4265): WARNING **: plugin loading error:
 No such file or directory
In-Reply-To: <20111218000856.21da0779@laposte.net>
References: <20111217222208.47aaa926@laposte.net>
	<20111217231136.74f8a6fb@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111217232355.218c0206@laposte.net>
	<20111218000330.36e0a3ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111218000856.21da0779@laposte.net>
Message-ID: <20111218001807.0904f4bc@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 00:08:56 +0100
"patrick.2 at laposte.net" <patrick.2 at laposte.net> wrote:

> prefs.c:296:Found [Plugins_Common]
> plugin.c:393:trying to load `/usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/newmail.so'
> plugin.c:342:plugin licence check passed: GPL3+ found
> hooks.c:70:registed new hook for 'mail_postfiltering_hooklist' as id 1
> hooks.c:89:unregisted hook 1 in 'mail_postfiltering_hooklist'
> Newmail plugin unloaded
There is nothing in the dump indicating any kind of errors. As you can
see from above the plugin is found (Otherwise this would not be
possible 'plugin.c:342:plugin licence check passed: GPL3+ found')

Only thing that puzzles me is these two lines  
> hooks.c:89:unregisted hook 1 in 'mail_postfiltering_hooklist'
> Newmail plugin unloaded
Is this file updated? ~/Mail/NewLog
Does the folder ~/Mail exist?

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917
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From mir at miras.org  Sun Dec 18 00:29:50 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 00:29:50 +0100
Subject: [Users] ** (claws-mail:4265): WARNING **: plugin loading error:
 No such file or directory
In-Reply-To: <20111218001807.0904f4bc@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20111217222208.47aaa926@laposte.net>
	<20111217231136.74f8a6fb@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111217232355.218c0206@laposte.net>
	<20111218000330.36e0a3ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111218000856.21da0779@laposte.net>
	<20111218001807.0904f4bc@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20111218002950.66fd6f95@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 00:18:07 +0100
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> Is this file updated? ~/Mail/NewLog
> Does the folder ~/Mail exist?
> 
The plugin has this description:
"Description: 
This plugin writes a msg header summary to a log file, (Default:
~/Mail/NewLog), on arrival of new mail *after* sorting."

For all I can see this is not happening instead I see a log entrance
for every mail I am sending!!?

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917
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From iwkse at claws-mail.org  Sun Dec 18 00:39:27 2011
From: iwkse at claws-mail.org (Salvatore De Paolis)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 00:39:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] ** (claws-mail:4265): WARNING **: plugin loading error:
 No such file or directory
In-Reply-To: <20111218002950.66fd6f95@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20111217222208.47aaa926@laposte.net>
	<20111217231136.74f8a6fb@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111217232355.218c0206@laposte.net>
	<20111218000330.36e0a3ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111218000856.21da0779@laposte.net>
	<20111218001807.0904f4bc@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111218002950.66fd6f95@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20111218003927.69232b86@net24.it>

On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 00:29:50 +0100
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> > Is this file updated? ~/Mail/NewLog
> > Does the folder ~/Mail exist?

From his log seems he doesn't have the default path but instead
.Mail-sylpheed or something (why sylpheed? this is Claws Mail :) )

> The plugin has this description:
> "Description: 
> This plugin writes a msg header summary to a log file, (Default:
> ~/Mail/NewLog), on arrival of new mail *after* sorting."
> 
> For all I can see this is not happening instead I see a log entrance
> for every mail I am sending!!?

Path seems to be hard coded, I didn't surf the sources for long though.

-- 
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From iwkse at claws-mail.org  Sun Dec 18 00:55:31 2011
From: iwkse at claws-mail.org (Salvatore De Paolis)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 00:55:31 +0100
Subject: [Users] ** (claws-mail:4265): WARNING **: plugin loading error:
 No such file or directory
In-Reply-To: <20111218002950.66fd6f95@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20111217222208.47aaa926@laposte.net>
	<20111217231136.74f8a6fb@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111217232355.218c0206@laposte.net>
	<20111218000330.36e0a3ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111218000856.21da0779@laposte.net>
	<20111218001807.0904f4bc@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111218002950.66fd6f95@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20111218005531.7731c6f1@net24.it>

> For all I can see this is not happening instead I see a log entrance
> for every mail I am sending!!?

This happens because the hook is FOLDER_ITEM_UPDATE_HOOKLIST so it also
gets the sent folder.
But it should work also with other folders.

-- 
Salvatore
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From mir at miras.org  Sun Dec 18 01:11:32 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 01:11:32 +0100
Subject: [Users] ** (claws-mail:4265): WARNING **: plugin loading error:
 No such file or directory
In-Reply-To: <20111218005531.7731c6f1@net24.it>
References: <20111217222208.47aaa926@laposte.net>
	<20111217231136.74f8a6fb@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111217232355.218c0206@laposte.net>
	<20111218000330.36e0a3ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111218000856.21da0779@laposte.net>
	<20111218001807.0904f4bc@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111218002950.66fd6f95@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111218005531.7731c6f1@net24.it>
Message-ID: <20111218011132.48ba5964@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 00:55:31 +0100
Salvatore De Paolis <iwkse at claws-mail.org> wrote:

> > For all I can see this is not happening instead I see a log entrance
> > for every mail I am sending!!?
> 
> This happens because the hook is FOLDER_ITEM_UPDATE_HOOKLIST so it also
> gets the sent folder.
> But it should work also with other folders.
> 
I see nothing in the log when new mails are available. Maybe the
notification plugin is called before newmail?

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
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From iwkse at claws-mail.org  Sun Dec 18 01:35:04 2011
From: iwkse at claws-mail.org (Salvatore De Paolis)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 01:35:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] ** (claws-mail:4265): WARNING **: plugin loading error:
 No such file or directory
In-Reply-To: <20111218011132.48ba5964@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20111217222208.47aaa926@laposte.net>
	<20111217231136.74f8a6fb@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111217232355.218c0206@laposte.net>
	<20111218000330.36e0a3ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111218000856.21da0779@laposte.net>
	<20111218001807.0904f4bc@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111218002950.66fd6f95@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111218005531.7731c6f1@net24.it>
	<20111218011132.48ba5964@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20111218013504.311a6c6c@net24.it>

On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 01:11:32 +0100
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> I see nothing in the log when new mails are available. Maybe the
> notification plugin is called before newmail?

It works ok here with the notification plugin. have you tried without the notification plugin?

-- 
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From gour at atmarama.net  Sun Dec 18 10:24:10 2011
From: gour at atmarama.net (Gour)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:24:10 +0100
Subject: [Users] create Taskwarrior task from within Claws
References: <20111217161658.42f62fe1@atmarama.noip.me>
	<20111217163112.20a6af46@net24.it>
Message-ID: <20111218102410.3aec3fb4@atmarama.noip.me>

On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:31:12 +0100
Salvatore De Paolis <iwkse at claws-mail.org> wrote:

> You could go through actions[1].
> Create a script with your preferred scripting language and makes it
> an action in Claws Mail.

So far I did the following action:

| task add --

which executes the following command:

task add -- description

where 'description' is text which is selected in claws message.

Now, I'd like to extend this action to combine selected text from the
claws message with my dialog input in order to mimic the following cli
command:

task add pri:some_priority pro:some_project + at some_tags -- description

where I'd manually enter:

pri:some_priority pro:some_project + at some_tags 

while 'description' would be picked from claws' selected text.

I've tried by adding '>' in my action, but somehow I cannot get it.

Any idea how to do it and/or one needs some shell wrapper?


Sincerely,
Gour

-- 
The spirit soul bewildered by the influence of false ego thinks 
himself the doer of activities that are in actuality carried out 
by the three modes of material nature.

http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810
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From patrick.2 at laposte.net  Sun Dec 18 12:02:36 2011
From: patrick.2 at laposte.net (patrick.2 at laposte.net)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 12:02:36 +0100
Subject: [Users] ** (claws-mail:4265): WARNING **: plugin loading error:
 No such file or directory
In-Reply-To: <20111218001807.0904f4bc@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20111217222208.47aaa926@laposte.net>
	<20111217231136.74f8a6fb@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111217232355.218c0206@laposte.net>
	<20111218000330.36e0a3ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111218000856.21da0779@laposte.net>
	<20111218001807.0904f4bc@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20111218120236.29452783@laposte.net>

Le Sun, 18 Dec 2011 00:18:07 +0100,
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> a écrit :

> There is nothing in the dump indicating any kind of errors. As you can
> see from above the plugin is found (Otherwise this would not be
> possible 'plugin.c:342:plugin licence check passed: GPL3+ found')
> 
> Only thing that puzzles me is these two lines  
> > hooks.c:89:unregisted hook 1 in 'mail_postfiltering_hooklist'
> > Newmail plugin unloaded  
> Is this file updated? ~/Mail/NewLog
> Does the folder ~/Mail exist?

 no, i use the folder  .Mail-sylpheed
 [patrick at localhost ~]$ ls .Mail-sylpheed
4x4 en balades/  Anciens Mels/  draft/  frontera/  inbox/  listes/
 Photos-click/  queue/  Rougier/  sent/  trash/ [patrick at localhost ~]$

-- 
- Patrick -
Envoyé depuis le monde libre par un Pc sous PcLinuxOs .


From patrick.2 at laposte.net  Sun Dec 18 12:05:56 2011
From: patrick.2 at laposte.net (patrick.2 at laposte.net)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 12:05:56 +0100
Subject: [Users] ** (claws-mail:4265): WARNING **: plugin loading error:
 No such file or directory
In-Reply-To: <20111218003927.69232b86@net24.it>
References: <20111217222208.47aaa926@laposte.net>
	<20111217231136.74f8a6fb@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111217232355.218c0206@laposte.net>
	<20111218000330.36e0a3ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111218000856.21da0779@laposte.net>
	<20111218001807.0904f4bc@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111218002950.66fd6f95@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111218003927.69232b86@net24.it>
Message-ID: <20111218120556.43fa0227@laposte.net>

Le Sun, 18 Dec 2011 00:39:27 +0100,
Salvatore De Paolis <iwkse at claws-mail.org> a écrit :

> From his log seems he doesn't have the default path but instead
> .Mail-sylpheed or something (why sylpheed? this is Claws Mail :) )

   ^^ 

   i use sylpheed one year i think, and next time claws since 2000 i
   know :)  and i never change the name folder :p



-- 
- Patrick -
Envoyé depuis le monde libre par un Pc sous PcLinuxOs .


From patrick.2 at laposte.net  Sun Dec 18 12:24:15 2011
From: patrick.2 at laposte.net (patrick.2 at laposte.net)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 12:24:15 +0100
Subject: [Users] ** (claws-mail:4265): WARNING **: plugin loading error:
 No such file or directory
In-Reply-To: <20111218013504.311a6c6c@net24.it>
References: <20111217222208.47aaa926@laposte.net>
	<20111217231136.74f8a6fb@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111217232355.218c0206@laposte.net>
	<20111218000330.36e0a3ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111218000856.21da0779@laposte.net>
	<20111218001807.0904f4bc@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111218002950.66fd6f95@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111218005531.7731c6f1@net24.it>
	<20111218011132.48ba5964@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111218013504.311a6c6c@net24.it>
Message-ID: <20111218122415.69514cff@laposte.net>

Le Sun, 18 Dec 2011 01:35:04 +0100,
Salvatore De Paolis <iwkse at claws-mail.org> a écrit :

> It works ok here with the notification plugin. have you tried without
> the notification plugin?

 I create the "Mail" folder in my home, and now it work.

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From linux at slavino.sk  Sun Dec 18 14:28:38 2011
From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:28:38 +0100
Subject: [Users] ** (claws-mail:4265): WARNING **: plugin loading error:
 No such file or directory
In-Reply-To: <20111218002950.66fd6f95@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20111217222208.47aaa926@laposte.net>
	<20111217231136.74f8a6fb@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111217232355.218c0206@laposte.net>
	<20111218000330.36e0a3ae@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111218000856.21da0779@laposte.net>
	<20111218001807.0904f4bc@sleipner.datanom.net>
	<20111218002950.66fd6f95@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20111218142838.3e6b8fc5@bonifac.skk>

Ahoj,

Dňa Sun, 18 Dec 2011 00:29:50 +0100 Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org>
napísal:

> On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 00:18:07 +0100
> Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:
> 
> > Is this file updated? ~/Mail/NewLog
> > Does the folder ~/Mail exist?
> > 
> The plugin has this description:
> "Description: 
> This plugin writes a msg header summary to a log file, (Default:
> ~/Mail/NewLog), on arrival of new mail *after* sorting."
> 
> For all I can see this is not happening instead I see a log entrance
> for every mail I am sending!!?
> 

I tried to send email (CM 3.7.10) to my self and here is the content of the
mentioned file:


tailf ~/Mail/NewLog
---
Date:	Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:20:12 +0100
Subject:	sadfsadfas
From:	Slavko <email at removed.sk>
To:	Slavko <email at removed.sk>
Cc:	(null)
Size:	2012
Path:	/home/slavko/Mail/sent/32
Message:	32
Folder:	sent
---
Date:	Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:20:12 +0100
Subject:	sadfsadfas
From:	Slavko <email at removed.sk>
To:	Slavko <email at removed.sk>
Cc:	(null)
Size:	3334
Path:	/home/slavko/Mail/inbox/2407
Message:	2407
Folder:	inbox

As you can see, the file was updated twice - one entry for email when it
was send and second, when it was received.

IMHO, the plugin lacks some option(s) for max file size/rotating, etc,
while it will grows and grows... (but i am not using it, i only test it for
your question)

regards

-- 
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From zibeli at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 18 16:30:03 2011
From: zibeli at yahoo.com (Zibeli Aton)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 07:30:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Users] avoiding claws-mail special headers in sent messages files
Message-ID: <1324222203.21864.YahooMailNeo@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I'm looking for a new email client so am experimenting with 
claws-mail and am impressed so far.  I'm wondering, though, if there is 
any real necessity for or way to prevent the addition of a long set of 
often cryptic header lines that seem to end with 
"X-Claws-End-Special-Headers: 1" to the copy of outgoing emails saved in
 the Sent folder.  These headers do not appear to be included in the 
emails as they are sent to the outgoing SMTP server but are saved in the
 MH files and are also visible by using Claws-Mail's view source option 
on items in the Sent folder.

Aside from a general preference that
 the email source as saved match that which was actually sent, I intend 
to use other scripts/programs to do various processing against the 
source email files and would prefer not to have to work around these 
extra headers.

As a messy alternative, is any harm likely to 
occur if I just delete all header lines up to and including the 
"X-Claws-End-Special-Headers" line from the Sent items via a 
post-processing rule executing an external script?  These headers appear
 to contain primarily information about the options that were used in 
composing the message, and I have no particular interest in keeping 
track of that, but I'm not sure if that is their only function.

Thanks in advance for any guidance on this,
Zibeli


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Mon Dec 19 17:17:59 2011
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 17:17:59 +0100
Subject: [Users] redundant attachments in mimetmp
Message-ID: <20111219171759.460ba6c5@mirrors.kernel.org>

When i do 'open with' on an image attachment if offers me xyz '%s' where xyz is the default viewer. 

Do i really need the '%s' in the first place ? I can not imagine any scenario where you would not want the filename as argument...?

Then i right-click on the first image of several, which are attached to a sent mail by claws itself, when i selected files just as usual. The following happens:

(1) The image gets decoded and placed into mimetmp as 00000005.<filename>.jpg.

(2) The same image gets decoded and placed into mimetmp as claws.TtEmbv (or so).

My default viewer is geeqie, which may be buggy. But the same happens with gwenview, too. These viewers always open the image folder and show all images. So they show me me the redundant files in mimetmp. 

[ I clarify, there was only one image of that name attached to the mail, but along some others with different names.]

When i change to another mail folder, the images in mimetmp don't get removed. But when i change back and repeat the attachment opening, more images of the "0000000<n>.<filename>.jpg" type are created. Also the "claws.TtEmbv" type is repeated. The existing are not reused.

Confusingly, some of the images are cleared sometimes (but never all) when i change folders, but i could not find understand why and when exactly. To me it appears like random.

Is this really intendet behavior ? Would it not mean unnecessary resource consumption ?

Another thing happens when i say 'open with' -> geeqie (without the %s). then 3 images are created at once, in mimetmp, (05 and 06 and the internal viewer one) but geeqie does not launch. I wonder ?


From jdalinux at yahoo.com.br  Mon Dec 19 19:19:11 2011
From: jdalinux at yahoo.com.br (Jean-D. Ackle)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:19:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Users] redundant attachments in mimetmp
In-Reply-To: <20111219171759.460ba6c5@mirrors.kernel.org>
Message-ID: <1324318751.98028.YahooMailClassic@web120501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I can only reply to the first part of your message (which isn't actually your message's subject but it's all I know how to answer.

> When i do 'open with' on an image
> attachment if offers me xyz '%s' where xyz is the default
> viewer. 
> 
> Do i really need the '%s' in the first place ? I can not
> imagine any scenario where you would not want the filename
> as argument...?

You don't need the '%s' to do just that one particular action but the thing is Claws enables you to do at least two more things with that syntax:
1. Execute a program where the filename argument is not simply the last one in the command-line. E.g. suppose you wanted to move it to some location; the command would be:
   mv %s someplace
This was a very simple example; some programs enable a really complex set of arguments you may actually need or want to use.
2. This second case is just actually an expansion of the first one: running multiple commands on the file. An example could be:
   clamscan --bell %s && geeqie %s && rm mimetmp/*
On Bash, the '&&' operator tells Bash to run clamscan --bell (scan for viruses) and then open the file with geeqie and then remove all files from the mimetmp folder (you would actually need to input the path to the mimetmp folder for it to work...).
As you can see, you can perform several more or less complex actions / commands on the attachment and that's why the '%s' is useful. And if you only need one simple action on the file, then you just append the '%s' to it. Flexibility is the keyword here. ;-)


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec 19 20:05:23 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 20:05:23 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2513] many operations are very slow
In-Reply-To: <bug-2513-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2513-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111219190523.D3F4E20136@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2513


Pierre Ossman <pierre-bugzilla at ossman.eu> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |INVALID




--- Comment #6 from Pierre Ossman  2011-12-19 20:05:23 ---
Problem solved! Turned out this was the old kvm/ipv6/segment offloading bug. I
managed to find it as Android did not cope as well with it as a regular Linux
system.

I'll just go ahead and close this issue. :)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Dec 19 20:09:18 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 20:09:18 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2513] many operations are very slow
In-Reply-To: <bug-2513-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2513-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111219190918.45B8620386@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2513





--- Comment #7 from Colin Leroy  2011-12-19 20:09:17 ---
Thanks for reporting back !

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From colin at colino.net  Mon Dec 19 20:11:29 2011
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 20:11:29 +0100
Subject: [Users] avoiding claws-mail special headers in sent messages
 files
In-Reply-To: <1324222203.21864.YahooMailNeo@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1324222203.21864.YahooMailNeo@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20111219201129.7c8a0e4f@marv>

On 18 December 2011 at 07h30, Zibeli Aton wrote:

Hi, 

> As a messy alternative, is any harm likely to 
> occur if I just delete all header lines up to and including the 
> "X-Claws-End-Special-Headers" line from the Sent items via a 
> post-processing rule executing an external script?  These headers
> appear to contain primarily information about the options that were
> used in composing the message, and I have no particular interest in
> keeping track of that, but I'm not sure if that is their only
> function.

Yes, it's their only function and yes, you can drop everything up to
X-Claws-End-Special-Headers, all our special headers end there.

We use them to allow re-editing of sent/queued/draft message with the
same options.

-- 
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From mir at miras.org  Mon Dec 19 20:18:34 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 20:18:34 +0100
Subject: [Users] avoiding claws-mail special headers in sent messages
 files
In-Reply-To: <20111219201129.7c8a0e4f@marv>
References: <1324222203.21864.YahooMailNeo@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<20111219201129.7c8a0e4f@marv>
Message-ID: <20111219201834.7565c808@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 20:11:29 +0100
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

> 
> We use them to allow re-editing of sent/queued/draft message with the
> same options.
> 
Will that not affect the possibility of using redirect later on?

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From mbone at gmx.co.uk  Tue Dec 20 02:53:13 2011
From: mbone at gmx.co.uk (Charles Kroeger)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 20:53:13 -0500
Subject: [Users] Dillo HTML viewer
Message-ID: <20111219205313.18d5c04e@mundo.rochester.rr.com>

In the current docs for CM v. 3.8.0 I notice that using Dillo as an HTML
viewer is mentioned. I use Dillo on this machine and would like it if CM were
able to use Dillo as advertised.

However, I don't see the Dillo HTML plugin as such available in the unstable
experimental or testing repositories but it is mentioned in the
"claws-mail-feeds-reader" plugin information as being able to integrate with
the 'dillo viewer plugin' as it were.

Q: what repository might the dillo plugin be in and will it run in sid or
wheezy? Is there a dillo plugin .deb somewhere?

O2: if the dillo plugin is in fact not available, what would you suggest for
the purpose of rendering HTML mail if this couldn't be avoided?

Thanks for your help and happy holidays.

-- 
CK

System Information
GTK+ 2.24.8 / GLib 2.30.2
Locale: en_US.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8)
Operating System: Debian Linux 3.1.0-1-amd64


From ricardo at mones.org  Tue Dec 20 11:06:52 2011
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 11:06:52 +0100
Subject: [Users] Dillo HTML viewer
In-Reply-To: <20111219205313.18d5c04e@mundo.rochester.rr.com>
References: <20111219205313.18d5c04e@mundo.rochester.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20111220100652.GI30647@trasgu>

  Hi,

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 08:53:13PM -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:
> In the current docs for CM v. 3.8.0 I notice that using Dillo as an HTML
> viewer is mentioned. I use Dillo on this machine and would like it if CM were
> able to use Dillo as advertised.
> 
> However, I don't see the Dillo HTML plugin as such available in the unstable
> experimental or testing repositories but it is mentioned in the
> "claws-mail-feeds-reader" plugin information as being able to integrate with
> the 'dillo viewer plugin' as it were.

  That's a minor bug of claws-mail-feeds-reader :)

  Dillo was removed because it was a GTK+1.x program, and GTK+1.x was removed
from Debian time ago, hence the Dillo plugin had to be removed to, more than
two years ago, BTW:
  http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/c/claws-mail/current/changelog.html#version3.7.2-2

> Q: what repository might the dillo plugin be in and will it run in sid or
> wheezy? Is there a dillo plugin .deb somewhere?

  To the first question: none AFAIK.
  To the second: yes, of course, but probably not very useful:
  http://snapshot.debian.org/binary/claws-mail-dillo-viewer/

> O2: if the dillo plugin is in fact not available, what would you suggest for
> the purpose of rendering HTML mail if this couldn't be avoided?

  Fancy plugin, for sure.

  regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
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From rol at witbe.net  Tue Dec 20 11:53:21 2011
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 11:53:21 +0100
Subject: [Users] IMAP4 broken since 3.8.0 with Free ?
Message-ID: <20111220115321.58471a96@tux.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello,

I've juste noticed that my 3.8.0 is now complaining :

* Account 'Free': Connecting to IMAP4 server: imap.free.fr...
[11:44:09] IMAP4< * OK IMAP4 ready 
* IMAP connection is un-authenticated
[11:44:09] IMAP4> 1 CAPABILITY 
[11:44:09] IMAP4< * CAPABILITY IMAP4REV1 X-NETSCAPE LOGIN-REFERRALS
AUTH=PLAIN [11:44:09] IMAP4< 1 OK completed 
[11:44:09] IMAP4> Logging pjrol to imap.free.fr using LOGIN
** IMAP error on imap.free.fr: parse error (very probably non-RFC
compliance from the server) ** IMAP4 connection broken
[11:44:09] IMAP4< Error logging in to imap.free.fr
*** Connection to imap.free.fr failed: login refused.
*** Couldn't login to IMAP server imap.free.fr.

If I wireshark my connection attempt, I have :

* OK IMAP4 ready
1 CAPABILITY
* CAPABILITY IMAP4REV1 X-NETSCAPE LOGIN-REFERRALS AUTH=PLAIN
1 OK completed
2 LOGIN pjrol mypassword
-ERR [AUTH] Error logging in.

Previous was 3.7.9 and was Ok.

Paul
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From stephan at holl-land.de  Tue Dec 20 14:38:45 2011
From: stephan at holl-land.de (Stephan Holl)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:38:45 +0100
Subject: [Users] 3.8.0 possible bug
In-Reply-To: <20111217194028.6ed7784f@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20111216133847.73b8e6d5@from-theboss.911networks.com>
	<20111217194028.6ed7784f@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20111220143845.3b0a2200@euarne.hq.intevation.de>

Hello *,

Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org>, [20111217 - 19:40:28]

> On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:38:47 -0800
> sylpheed at 911networks.com wrote:
> 
> > I just installed/compiled 3.8.0 on Ubuntu Lucid 10.04.
> > 
> > The display of the message summaries:
> > 
> > * When I scroll down from the top, there's no horizontal line
> > * When I scroll up from the bottom, there's a horizontal line that
> >   appears between each message.
> > 
> I can confirm this. But it appears to be either a problem related to
> the GTK-theme i Ubuntu or how the rules_hint is applied to the
> GtkTreeView.
> 

Is there any workarround? It is a little anoying here running under
xfce on debian squeeze.

Best

	Stephan

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From mbone at gmx.co.uk  Tue Dec 20 18:34:29 2011
From: mbone at gmx.co.uk (Charles Kroeger)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:34:29 -0500
Subject: [Users] V. 3.80 Linux line highlighting colour
Message-ID: <20111220123429.165cba1d@mundo.rochester.rr.com>

It would be a great addition to CM if in the Configuration menu related to
colours there was a way to adjust the line highlighting colour one sees when
clicking on the line with the mouse.

In this current version there's this very dark blue band that appears when a
line is highlighted and that wouldn't be so bad if the text in lines of the
message list and folders list turned white like in the configuration menus
etc. At least those lines are readable.

The DE I use here, xfce4 doesn't seem to control this with any of its window
managers, and I don't know about GTK and how much CM relies on that
configuration for this highlighting colour.

Is there a hidden way to adjust this colour?

-- 

Thanks,

CK


From charlescurley at charlescurley.com  Tue Dec 20 18:52:13 2011
From: charlescurley at charlescurley.com (Charles Curley)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 10:52:13 -0700
Subject: [Users] V. 3.80 Linux line highlighting colour
In-Reply-To: <20111220123429.165cba1d@mundo.rochester.rr.com>
References: <20111220123429.165cba1d@mundo.rochester.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20111220105213.28686325@yendi>

On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:34:29 -0500
Charles Kroeger <mbone at gmx.co.uk> wrote:

> Is there a hidden way to adjust this colour?

Have you looked at clawsker?

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 20 19:36:06 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 18:36:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] V. 3.80 Linux line highlighting colour
In-Reply-To: <20111220123429.165cba1d@mundo.rochester.rr.com>
References: <20111220123429.165cba1d@mundo.rochester.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20111220183606.7fbe9a60@thewildbeast>

On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:34:29 -0500
Charles Kroeger <mbone at gmx.co.uk> wrote: 

> Is there a hidden way to adjust this colour?

It's controlled by your GTK+ theme.

with regards

Paul


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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 20 19:41:16 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 18:41:16 +0000
Subject: [Users] Dillo HTML viewer
In-Reply-To: <20111220100652.GI30647@trasgu>
References: <20111219205313.18d5c04e@mundo.rochester.rr.com>
	<20111220100652.GI30647@trasgu>
Message-ID: <20111220184116.6c1a36b8@thewildbeast>

On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 11:06:52 +0100
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote: 

>   Dillo was removed because it was a GTK+1.x program, and GTK+1.x
> was removed from Debian time ago, hence the Dillo plugin had to be
> removed to, more than two years ago, BTW:
>   http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/c/claws-mail/current/changelog.html#version3.7.2-2
> 
> > Q: what repository might the dillo plugin be in and will it run
> > in sid or wheezy? Is there a dillo plugin .deb somewhere?  
> 
>   To the first question: none AFAIK.
>   To the second: yes, of course, but probably not very useful:
>   http://snapshot.debian.org/binary/claws-mail-dillo-viewer/


Just FYI: Dillo now uses FLTK, (Dillo3 uses FLTK-1.3), which is
available in testing/unstable/experimental. So maybe there's still
life in the dillo-viewer plugin on debian yet!

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From rezso at rezso.net  Tue Dec 20 20:11:15 2011
From: rezso at rezso.net (=?UTF-8?B?UMOhZGVyIFJlenPFkQ==?=)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:11:15 +0100
Subject: [Users] use_addr_book or use_address_book?
Message-ID: <20111220201115.7ca209e1@papi.home>

Hi all,


the code of CM (prefs_common.c, prefs_summaries.c and summaryview.c) uses
prefs_common.use_addr_book, but the clawsrc contains use_address_book.
Which is wrong?
(Not new install, continuously updated installation.)


regards,

Rezso
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 20 20:15:52 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:15:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] Dillo HTML viewer
In-Reply-To: <20111220184116.6c1a36b8@thewildbeast>
References: <20111219205313.18d5c04e@mundo.rochester.rr.com>
	<20111220100652.GI30647@trasgu>
	<20111220184116.6c1a36b8@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20111220191552.7744924c@thewildbeast>

On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 18:41:16 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote: 

> Just FYI: Dillo now uses FLTK, (Dillo3 uses FLTK-1.3), which is
> available in testing/unstable/experimental. So maybe there's still
> life in the dillo-viewer plugin on debian yet!

OTOH, I just tried the latest dillo, it works standalone, but not
via the plugin! 

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 20 20:20:13 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:20:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] use_addr_book or use_address_book?
In-Reply-To: <20111220201115.7ca209e1@papi.home>
References: <20111220201115.7ca209e1@papi.home>
Message-ID: <20111220192013.7d3b8462@thewildbeast>

On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:11:15 +0100
Páder Rezső <rezso at rezso.net> wrote: 

> the code of CM (prefs_common.c, prefs_summaries.c and
> summaryview.c) uses prefs_common.use_addr_book, but the clawsrc
> contains use_address_book. Which is wrong?
> (Not new install, continuously updated installation.)


Both! :)

	{"use_address_book", "FALSE", &prefs_common.use_addr_book,
	P_BOOL, NULL, NULL, NULL},

"use_address_book" is the option name, prefs_common.use_addr_book is
how it is used.

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 20 20:21:25 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:21:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] use_addr_book or use_address_book?
In-Reply-To: <20111220192013.7d3b8462@thewildbeast>
References: <20111220201115.7ca209e1@papi.home>
	<20111220192013.7d3b8462@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20111220192125.40cca0c6@thewildbeast>

On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:20:13 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote: 

> Both! :)

Of course I meant Neither! :)

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From jerry at seibercom.net  Tue Dec 20 20:38:37 2011
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:38:37 -0500
Subject: [Users] Export address book in CSV format
Message-ID: <20111220143837.29b0ff05@scorpio>

I don't believe that there is any support in Claws-Mail to export
either the entire address book or selected portions of it in CSV
format. Are there any plugins that might handle the job?

I realize that I can export in another format and then convert that to
CSV; however, that is really a PIA to say the least. The reason I want
CSV is because I have applications that can directly use such a format.

Perhaps the developers of CM might consider adding this as an option at
some point. I seriously believe it would prove useful for others
besides myself.

-- 
Jerry ♔

Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored.
Please do not ignore the Reply-To header.
__________________________________________________________________

Have you ever considered the irony in the fact that we celebrate
Christ's birthday every year by ignoring the fact that he would have
celebrated Hanukkah?


From mbone at gmx.co.uk  Tue Dec 20 20:50:43 2011
From: mbone at gmx.co.uk (Charles Kroeger)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:50:43 -0500
Subject: [Users] V. 3.80 Linux line highlighting colour
In-Reply-To: <20111220105213.28686325@yendi>
References: <20111220123429.165cba1d@mundo.rochester.rr.com>
	<20111220105213.28686325@yendi>
Message-ID: <20111220145043.0ab0d7e4@mundo.rochester.rr.com>

On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 10:52:13 -0700
Charles Curley wrote:

> Have you looked at clawsker?  

I did edit the /home/charles/.claws-mail/clawsrc file and changed the value
of emphasis_color-#000cf to #f0e893 but alas I now know the clawsrc doesn't
control this color.. I'm going to have to dig into the GTK config stuff..crap.

thanks for your suggestion nonetheless.

-- 
CK



From mbone at gmx.co.uk  Tue Dec 20 20:52:43 2011
From: mbone at gmx.co.uk (Charles Kroeger)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:52:43 -0500
Subject: [Users] V. 3.80 Linux line highlighting colour
In-Reply-To: <20111220183606.7fbe9a60@thewildbeast>
References: <20111220123429.165cba1d@mundo.rochester.rr.com>
	<20111220183606.7fbe9a60@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20111220145243.5536caad@mundo.rochester.rr.com>

On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:15:52 +0000
Paul wrote:

> OTOH, I just tried the latest dillo, it works standalone, but not
> via the plugin!   


Yes, I use it here, V. 3.0.2 a wickedly fast browser. It would be ever so good
to use the plugin for HTML once more.

-- 
CK


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Tue Dec 20 21:34:42 2011
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 21:34:42 +0100
Subject: [Users] redundant attachments in mimetmp
In-Reply-To: <1324318751.98028.YahooMailClassic@web120501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <20111219171759.460ba6c5@mirrors.kernel.org>
	<1324318751.98028.YahooMailClassic@web120501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20111220213442.65375bd4@mirrors.kernel.org>

Jean, thank you for the explanations. It didn't occur to me that you can do shell commands with just that 'open with' feature !

>    mv %s someplace

It is a very useful example.

As for the mimetmp file issue that made me ask, in the first place, i have no new data yet and because of the christmas whirl, any further analysis has to wait. I just thought someone else would try to verify if that's happening always, or just only for me.

Again, thanks for the input!

MC :) micha


From list at eworm.de  Wed Dec 21 07:42:09 2011
From: list at eworm.de (Christian Hesse)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:42:09 +0100
Subject: [Users] V. 3.80 Linux line highlighting colour
In-Reply-To: <20111220183606.7fbe9a60@thewildbeast>
References: <20111220123429.165cba1d@mundo.rochester.rr.com>
	<20111220183606.7fbe9a60@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20111221074209.23291c19@leda.vpn.lugor.de>

Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 18:36:06 +0000:
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:34:29 -0500
> Charles Kroeger <mbone at gmx.co.uk> wrote: 
> 
> > Is there a hidden way to adjust this colour?
> 
> It's controlled by your GTK+ theme.

It is. But CM does not honor changes on the fly for selections in folder and
message view (unlinke every other GTK+ application). Charles, restart your CM
and everything should be fine.

I wanted to report a bug some days ago about exactly this... Is the bug
tracker down?
-- 
Schoene Gruesse
Chris


From list at eworm.de  Wed Dec 21 13:16:05 2011
From: list at eworm.de (Christian Hesse)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:16:05 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20111216162154.4aeec4d5@colin.i-run.fr>
References: <20111216130153.1983e551@thewildbeast>
	<20111216155919.000021fe@minnit.de>
	<20111216162154.4aeec4d5@colin.i-run.fr>
Message-ID: <20111221131605.7d33e626@leda.vpn.lugor.de>

Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> on Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:21:54 +0100:
> On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:59:19 +0100, Michael Scheer <lfrr at minnit.de>
> wrote:
> 
> > I'm one of the 10 Users (worldwide ;-) of the Windows port 
> 
> I hope there's more, given all the work it gives :)

I think there's not a lot of people out there who even know a Windows port
exists. I thought I was forced to use Thunderbird for Windows for a long
time. :-p

Is there any reason no "official" Windows build exists?
A lot of users are uncertain if they have to search around and find something
with a version that ends with cvs[0-9]+.
-- 
Schoene Gruesse
Chris


From info at troyvit.com  Wed Dec 21 23:23:35 2011
From: info at troyvit.com (Troy Vitullo)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:23:35 -0700
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20111216130153.1983e551@thewildbeast>
References: <20111216130153.1983e551@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20111221152335.1770bf19@hrafn>

Hi,

Any word on when this will be available in the claws-mail PPA?

Many thanks,

Troy

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:01:53 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> 16th December 2011                                   Claws Mail 3.8.0
> 
> 		    CLAWS MAIL  RELEASE NOTES
>                     http://www.claws-mail.org
> 		      
> Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast 
> email client.
> 
> New in this release:
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> * GnuTLS 2.2 is now a minimum requirement if encrypted connections to
>   servers are required.
> 
> * The list displays have been updated to use newer GTK+ functions,
>   this means that the expanders look different and the optional dotted
>   lines have been dropped.
> 
> * A hidden option, 'summary_from_show', which controls the display in
>   the From column of the Message List: 0 (default): show name,
>   1: show address, 2: show name + address
> 		
> * The image viewer now uses the EXIF Orientation.
> 		
> * 'Generate X-Mailer header' has been added as an Account option.
> 
> * /View/Message scroll has been added, allowing keyboard shortcuts to
>   be added and used for message scrolling.
> 
> * Home and End keys now function in the Message View.
> 
> * /Message/Print has been added to the Compose window.
> 
> * Updated manuals
> 
> * Update man page
> 
> * Updated translations: Brazilian Portuguese, Czech, French,
> 	Hungarian, Indonesian, Russian, Slovak, Spanish, Ukrainian.
> 
> * Bug fixes:
> 	o bug 1489, 'Filter action mark_as_read inoperative
> 		     following move action
> 	o bug 1563, 'Folder view: show complete threads if they
> 		     contain unread messages'
> 	o bug 1870, 'arrow scrolling in filters'
> 	o bug 2116, 'Rip spaces off server names in account
> 		     configuration'
> 	o bug 2127, 'SSL cert check uses canonical name instead of
> 		     specified name'
> 	o bug 2177, 'addrbook/addrbook-00000?.xml is not deleted
> 		     after removing the address book in the GUI'
> 	o bug 2303, 'Next unread message enables message view'
> 	o bug 2310, 'Crash when hitting Ctrl+R to reply to a 
> 		     particular mail'
> 	o bug 2377, 'Show All Headers - make change persistent
> 		     between sessions'
> 	o bug 2402, 'GnuTLS change breaks socket communication'
> 	o bug 2404, 'matcherrc updates upon account renaming'
> 	o bug 2406, 'some part of accountrc not updated upon account
> 		     rename'
> 	o bug 2408, 'Some UI elements are not persistent between
> 		     sessions'
> 	o bug 2422, 'Toggle Message View w/ V crashes Claws'
> 	o bug 2479, 'LDIF address book import matches tags case
> 		     sensitive'
> 	o bug 2481, 'do not scroll "from" dropdown list and sender
> 		     address'
> 	o bug 2493, 'Subscription pull down should be alphabetized'
> 	o bug 2502, 'gnutls_transport_set_lowat removed in gnutls
> 		     3.0.3'
> 	o bug 2505, 'tagsdb becomes polluted with old folder entries'
> 	o bug 2509, 'manually added headers are lost unless mail is
> 		     sent inmediately'
> 	o bug 2520, 'Please remove verbose "No further processing
> 		     after rule %s" message.'
> 	o bug 2525, 'Address completion window does not get keyboard
> 		     focus'
> 	o bug 2526, 'When reading message in separate window, n and p
> 		     keys do not work'
> 	o bug 2529, 'crash in mimeview_start_drag after deleting
> 		     message'
> 	o bug 2543, 'filter actions in actionsrc not updated upon
> 		     account renaming'
> 	o bug 2560, 'crash when unsubscribing newsgroup and having
> 		     active search field'
> 	o Fix focus problem on Gnome shell
> 	o Fix flicker on recursive quicksearch
> 	o Fix huge slowness induced by spellcheck "while typing"
> 	  during initial quote rewraps.
> 	o Fix build with GLib 2.31.
> 	o Fix crasher when spellchecking is not enabled
> 	o Fix compose window size saving/restoring
> 
> For further details of the numbered bugs listed above consult
> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> See ChangeLog for full information regarding changes in this release.
> 


From info at troyvit.com  Wed Dec 21 23:29:15 2011
From: info at troyvit.com (Troy Vitullo)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:29:15 -0700
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20111221152335.1770bf19@hrafn>
References: <20111216130153.1983e551@thewildbeast>
	<20111221152335.1770bf19@hrafn>
Message-ID: <20111221152915.293d80df@hrafn>

On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:23:35 -0700
Troy Vitullo <info at troyvit.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Any word on when this will be available in the claws-mail PPA?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Troy

Argh, sorry for the top-post.



From zibeli at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 21 23:49:51 2011
From: zibeli at yahoo.com (Zibeli Aton)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:49:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Users] avoiding claws-mail special headers in sent messages
	files
In-Reply-To: <20111219201129.7c8a0e4f@marv>
References: <1324222203.21864.YahooMailNeo@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<20111219201129.7c8a0e4f@marv>
Message-ID: <1324507791.55573.YahooMailNeo@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> > As a messy alternative, is any harm likely to 
> > occur if I just delete all header lines up to and including the 
> > "X-Claws-End-Special-Headers" line from the Sent items via a 
> > post-processing rule executing an external script?  These headers
> > appear to contain primarily information about the options that were
> > used in composing the message, and I have no particular interest in
> > keeping track of that, but I'm not sure if that is their only
> > function.
> 
> Yes, it's their only function and yes, you can drop everything up to
> X-Claws-End-Special-Headers, all our special headers end there.
> 
> We use them to allow re-editing of sent/queued/draft message with the
> same options.

Cool, thanks.



From ricardo at mones.org  Thu Dec 22 00:42:10 2011
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 00:42:10 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20111221131605.7d33e626@leda.vpn.lugor.de>
References: <20111216130153.1983e551@thewildbeast>
	<20111216155919.000021fe@minnit.de>
	<20111216162154.4aeec4d5@colin.i-run.fr>
	<20111221131605.7d33e626@leda.vpn.lugor.de>
Message-ID: <20111222004210.3f3ab8a6@sumiciu>


  Hi Christian,

On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:16:05 +0100
Christian Hesse <list at eworm.de> wrote:

> Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> on Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:21:54 +0100:
> > On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:59:19 +0100, Michael Scheer <lfrr at minnit.de>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > I'm one of the 10 Users (worldwide ;-) of the Windows port 
> > 
> > I hope there's more, given all the work it gives :)
> 
> I think there's not a lot of people out there who even know a Windows
> port exists. I thought I was forced to use Thunderbird for Windows
> for a long time. :-p

  Umm, guess what's the first result when you search "claws-mail
  windows" in google :)

> Is there any reason no "official" Windows build exists?

  http://www.claws-mail.org/win32/ doesn't look official enough?

> A lot of users are uncertain if they have to search around and find
> something with a version that ends with cvs[0-9]+.

  Well, no worries, that one ends in svn... :D
  More seriously, naming it 'claws mail seven' won't make it better.

  regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
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From carlh at cehartung.com  Thu Dec 22 02:50:25 2011
From: carlh at cehartung.com (Carl E. Hartung)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 20:50:25 -0500
Subject: [Users] connection time out dialog 'stalls' Claws Mail
Message-ID: <20111221205025.68cf8e5c@linux-j3of.site>

Hi All,

I'm running openSUSE 11.4 x86_64 / GNOME 2.32.1
with Claws Mail 3.7.8

I have about a dozen e-mail accounts spanning several domains. One
account has a server with an irritating habit of randomly timing out
when it is being polled via pop3 for new mail.

When this happens, Claws Mail kicks up an error dialog box offering me
two buttons:

  the first is an option to view the log

  the second is just an 'OK' to dismiss the dialog

While this dialog is visible, Claws Mail is 'suspended' awaiting
my input.

So, when I'm away from my system, Claws Mail just sits there waiting
for me to respond and retrieval of mail for all accounts is halted.

When I compensate by turning the troublesome account off under
'Configuration -> Edit Accounts,' I then often forget to turn it
back on causing mail from that account to be further delayed.

If I'm working on 'desktop 5' and the dialog pops up, it sometimes does
so underneath the application I'm working in and it will stay there,
hidden, until the lack of new mail makes me curious, leading me to
search for the dialog to click 'OK' to resume mail retrieval.

I'd be very grateful for any ideas or suggestions as to how to resolve
this problem.

I absolutely /love/ Claws Mail, btw, so kudos to the developers and
maintainers!

regards,

Carl

-- 
Carl E. Hartung
http://www.cehartung.com/


From mir at miras.org  Thu Dec 22 03:04:08 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 03:04:08 +0100
Subject: [Users] connection time out dialog 'stalls' Claws Mail
In-Reply-To: <20111221205025.68cf8e5c@linux-j3of.site>
References: <20111221205025.68cf8e5c@linux-j3of.site>
Message-ID: <20111222030408.36b28ce1@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 20:50:25 -0500
"Carl E. Hartung" <carlh at cehartung.com> wrote:

> 
> I'd be very grateful for any ideas or suggestions as to how to resolve
> this problem.
> 
Mail Handling->Receiving.Dialogs check 'Dont popup error dialog on
receive error'

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917
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From carlh at cehartung.com  Thu Dec 22 03:17:48 2011
From: carlh at cehartung.com (Carl E. Hartung)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:17:48 -0500
Subject: [Users] connection time out dialog 'stalls' Claws Mail
In-Reply-To: <20111222030408.36b28ce1@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20111221205025.68cf8e5c@linux-j3of.site>
	<20111222030408.36b28ce1@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20111221211748.25932cb5@linux-j3of.site>

On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 03:04:08 +0100
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 20:50:25 -0500
> "Carl E. Hartung" <carlh at cehartung.com> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I'd be very grateful for any ideas or suggestions as to how to
> > resolve this problem.
> > 
> Mail Handling->Receiving.Dialogs check 'Dont popup error dialog on
> receive error'
> 

Wow, that was fast and easy.

Thank you, Michael!

Carl

-- 
Carl E. Hartung
http://www.cehartung.com/
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 22 08:06:02 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 07:06:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] avoiding claws-mail special headers in sent messages
 files
In-Reply-To: <20111219201834.7565c808@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <1324222203.21864.YahooMailNeo@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<20111219201129.7c8a0e4f@marv>
	<20111219201834.7565c808@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20111222070602.7626cdb7@thewildbeast>

On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 20:18:34 +0100
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote: 

> Will that not affect the possibility of using redirect later on?

No.  ...In what way??

with regards

Paul


-- 
It isn't worth a nickel to two guys like you or me, 
but to a collector it is worth a fortune 


From list at eworm.de  Thu Dec 22 08:14:41 2011
From: list at eworm.de (Christian Hesse)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 08:14:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20111222004210.3f3ab8a6@sumiciu>
References: <20111216130153.1983e551@thewildbeast>
	<20111216155919.000021fe@minnit.de>
	<20111216162154.4aeec4d5@colin.i-run.fr>
	<20111221131605.7d33e626@leda.vpn.lugor.de>
	<20111222004210.3f3ab8a6@sumiciu>
Message-ID: <20111222081441.4272296b@leda.vpn.lugor.de>

Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> on Thu, 22 Dec 2011 00:42:10 +0100:
> On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:16:05 +0100
> Christian Hesse <list at eworm.de> wrote:
> > Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> on Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:21:54 +0100:
> > > On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:59:19 +0100, Michael Scheer <lfrr at minnit.de>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I'm one of the 10 Users (worldwide ;-) of the Windows port 
> > > 
> > > I hope there's more, given all the work it gives :)
> > 
> > I think there's not a lot of people out there who even know a Windows
> > port exists. I thought I was forced to use Thunderbird for Windows
> > for a long time. :-p
> 
>   Umm, guess what's the first result when you search "claws-mail
>   windows" in google :)

Oh, you are right...
I remember landing on a gpg4win.org subsite, finding a plain old version on
another subsite.

> > Is there any reason no "official" Windows build exists?
> 
>   http://www.claws-mail.org/win32/ doesn't look official enough?

This site states: "A more recent snapshot than provided by GPG4win is
available" [...]

That is different from "Latest stable version is 3.8.0. Get it here!"

Personally I do not care using development snapshots. A lot of users do I
suppose.

> > A lot of users are uncertain if they have to search around and find
> > something with a version that ends with cvs[0-9]+.
> 
>   Well, no worries, that one ends in svn... :D
>   More seriously, naming it 'claws mail seven' won't make it better.

No, but releasing 3.8.0 may be a reasonable step.

Just my .02$.
-- 
Schoene Gruesse
Chris


From lfrr at minnit.de  Thu Dec 22 11:14:27 2011
From: lfrr at minnit.de (Michael Scheer)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:14:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20111222004210.3f3ab8a6@sumiciu>
References: <20111216130153.1983e551@thewildbeast>
	<20111216155919.000021fe@minnit.de>
	<20111216162154.4aeec4d5@colin.i-run.fr>
	<20111221131605.7d33e626@leda.vpn.lugor.de>
	<20111222004210.3f3ab8a6@sumiciu>
Message-ID: <20111222111427.00007615@minnit.de>

Ricardo Mones wrote:

>   http://www.claws-mail.org/win32/ doesn't look official enough?

"Search for an old compile somewhere between gpg4win bloat"
"Or maybe get a more recent svn compile"

Attractive!

Best regards
Michael


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Thu Dec 22 22:26:49 2011
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:26:49 +0000
Subject: [Users] CVS snapshot scripts stopped?
Message-ID: <20111222212649.03b52b85@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>

Could someone give the server a nudge please?

-- 

Brian Morrison

                "I am not young enough to know everything"
                                                          Oscar Wilde


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 23 17:39:17 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:39:17 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2568] New: Calendar crash 3.8.0
Message-ID: <bug-2568-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2568

           Summary: Calendar crash 3.8.0
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: other
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: dront78 at gmail.com


Claws Mail version 3.8.0
GTK+ version 2.24.8 / GLib 2.30.2
Locale: ru_RU.utf8 (charset: UTF-8)
Features: IPv6 iconv compface GnuTLS LDAP JPilot GNU/aspell libetpan libSM
Operating system: Linux 3.1.5-1-ARCH (x86_64)
C Library: GNU libc 2.14.1
--
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread 0x7f5139bb2700 (LWP 1803)]
0x00007f514605142d in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#0  0x00007f514605142d in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#1  0x000000000049a2db in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#2  <signal handler called>
No symbol table info available.
#3  0x00007f514506e905 in raise () from /lib/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#4  0x00007f514506fd7b in abort () from /lib/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#5  0x00007f514506774e in __assert_fail_base () from /lib/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#6  0x00007f51450677f2 in __assert_fail () from /lib/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#7  0x00007f513a880ad8 in icalcomponent_as_ical_string () from
/usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/vcalendar.so
No symbol table info available.
#8  0x00007f513a878359 in handle_method_call () from
/usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/vcalendar.so
No symbol table info available.
#9  0x00007f514443c720 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libgio-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#10 0x00007f514593c84d in g_main_context_dispatch () from
/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#11 0x00007f514593d048 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#12 0x00007f514593d219 in g_main_context_iteration () from
/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#13 0x00007f514834f621 in gtk_main_iteration () from
/usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#14 0x00000000004f4365 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#15 0x00007f513a86b415 in vcal_curl_read () from
/usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/vcalendar.so
No symbol table info available.
#16 0x00007f513a86b6d9 in feed_fetch () from
/usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/vcalendar.so
No symbol table info available.
#17 0x00007f513a86c1e8 in get_webcal_events_func () from
/usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/vcalendar.so
No symbol table info available.
#18 0x00007f5145945d2f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#19 0x00007f5145945ce9 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#20 0x00007f5145946a81 in g_node_traverse () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#21 0x00007f513a86b243 in vcal_folder_get_webcal_events () from
/usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/vcalendar.so
No symbol table info available.
#22 0x00007f513a87833f in handle_method_call () from
/usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/vcalendar.so
No symbol table info available.
#23 0x00007f514443c720 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libgio-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#24 0x00007f514593c84d in g_main_context_dispatch () from
/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#25 0x00007f514593d048 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#26 0x00007f514593d582 in g_main_loop_run () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#27 0x00007f514834f417 in gtk_main () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#28 0x00000000004480c7 in main ()
No symbol table info available.
Kill the program being debugged? (y or n) [answered Y; input not from terminal]

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 23 17:45:21 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:45:21 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2568] Calendar crash 3.8.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-2568-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2568-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111223164521.6C7C31FE4C@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2568





--- Comment #1 from Ivan  2011-12-23 17:45:20 ---
gmail vcal account

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 23 17:46:12 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:46:12 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2568] Calendar crash 3.8.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-2568-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2568-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111223164612.EAC191FE4C@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2568


Ivan <dront78 at gmail.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
            Version|other                       |3.8.0




--- Comment #2 from Ivan  2011-12-23 17:46:12 ---
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From gour at atmarama.net  Sat Dec 24 23:42:34 2011
From: gour at atmarama.net (Gour)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 23:42:34 +0100
Subject: [Users] syncing Android contacts with Claws
Message-ID: <20111224234234.066a59f5@atmarama.noip.me>

Hello,

after 'upgrading' my phone to Android I wonder if there is some way to
sync my phone contacts with Claws' addressbook?

We'd like to avoid keeping our data on Google...there is e.g. support
for Thunderbird's addressbook on Memotoo.com, but I wonder about some
Claws-related solution?

Yeah, LDAP might be one, but I'd rather skip over it, if possible.


Sincerely,
Gour

-- 
It is far better to discharge one's prescribed duties, even though 
faultily, than another's duties perfectly. Destruction in the course 
of performing one's own duty is better than engaging in another's
duties, for to follow another's path is dangerous.

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From berndth at gmx.de  Sun Dec 25 14:17:39 2011
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 14:17:39 +0100
Subject: [Users] syncing Android contacts with Claws
In-Reply-To: <20111224234234.066a59f5@atmarama.noip.me>
References: <20111224234234.066a59f5@atmarama.noip.me>
Message-ID: <20111225141739.01117347@wodan>

On Sa, 24.12.2011 23:42, Gour wrote:

>after 'upgrading' my phone to Android I wonder if there is some way to
>sync my phone contacts with Claws' addressbook?

I've tried to get addressbook sync working for me for a very long time,
playing with SyncCe, OpenSync, syncing in Evolution and hooking Claws
Mail up to that, and various other methods - with very little success
over the years. When I got my android phone, I was really impressed how
well Google-based sync worked out-of-the-box - so I hooked Claws
Mail up to my Google addressbook using the GData plugin. It's not a
sync, it just makes the addressboook available in the
address-completion (and thus in functionality based on the address
completion as well, e.g. addressbook-based filtering), but I'm happier
now than ever before.

>We'd like to avoid keeping our data on Google...there is e.g. support
>for Thunderbird's addressbook on Memotoo.com, but I wonder about some
>Claws-related solution?

Of course, if you try to stay away from a Google-based solution, this
if probably no option for you.

Holger


From colin at colino.net  Sun Dec 25 20:41:11 2011
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 20:41:11 +0100
Subject: [Users] CVS snapshot scripts stopped?
In-Reply-To: <20111222212649.03b52b85@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
References: <20111222212649.03b52b85@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20111225204111.7c3df28a@marv>

On 22 December 2011 at 21h26, Brian Morrison wrote:

Hi, 

> Could someone give the server a nudge please?

Should be better now ?

-- 
Colin
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From gour at atmarama.net  Mon Dec 26 08:15:08 2011
From: gour at atmarama.net (Gour)
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 08:15:08 +0100
Subject: [Users] syncing Android contacts with Claws
References: <20111224234234.066a59f5@atmarama.noip.me>
	<20111225141739.01117347@wodan>
Message-ID: <20111226081508.1a7c236e@atmarama.noip.me>

On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 14:17:39 +0100
Holger Berndt <berndth at gmx.de> wrote:

> I've tried to get addressbook sync working for me for a very long
> time, playing with SyncCe, OpenSync, syncing in Evolution and hooking
> Claws Mail up to that, and various other methods - with very little
> success over the years. 

Good to know.

> When I got my android phone, I was really impressed how well
> Google-based sync worked out-of-the-box - so I hooked Claws Mail up to
> my Google addressbook using the GData plugin.

Funnily enough, I was actually not aware of GData plugin. Thank you for
pointing it out.

> It's not a sync, it just makes the addressboook available in the
> address-completion (and thus in functionality based on the address
> completion as well, e.g. addressbook-based filtering), but I'm happier
> now than ever before.

I may try that...

> Of course, if you try to stay away from a Google-based solution, this
> if probably no option for you.

Well, I'd like to...Before Android phone, I simply used Wammu as method
to sync my phone contacts with the desktop, but hoping to achieve more
integration with my mailer while using Android phone.

Yesterday I was told that upcoming work on new addressbook might be
plugin-based, so it could be possible to have e.g. SyncML plugin.

Otherwise, Claws is behind Thunderbird & Evo when it comes to syncing
contacts.

I also found some LDAP sync client at Market, but don't know if it's
still developed, and LDAP, in general, is not fun to me. :-)


Sincerely,
Gour


-- 
Never was there a time when I did not exist, 
nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future 
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From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Mon Dec 26 09:18:23 2011
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 08:18:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] CVS snapshot scripts stopped?
In-Reply-To: <20111225204111.7c3df28a@marv>
References: <20111222212649.03b52b85@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>
	<20111225204111.7c3df28a@marv>
Message-ID: <20111226081823.66f74a9c@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>

On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 20:41:11 +0100
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

> On 22 December 2011 at 21h26, Brian Morrison wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> > Could someone give the server a nudge please?
> 
> Should be better now ?
> 

Yes, thanks Colin.

-- 

Brian Morrison

                "I am not young enough to know everything"
                                                          Oscar Wilde


From mir at miras.org  Mon Dec 26 15:32:28 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:32:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] syncing Android contacts with Claws
In-Reply-To: <20111225141739.01117347@wodan>
References: <20111224234234.066a59f5@atmarama.noip.me>
	<20111225141739.01117347@wodan>
Message-ID: <20111226153228.260ac658@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 14:17:39 +0100
Holger Berndt <berndth at gmx.de> wrote:

> 
> I've tried to get addressbook sync working for me for a very long time,
> playing with SyncCe, OpenSync, syncing in Evolution and hooking Claws
> Mail up to that, and various other methods - with very little success
What protocol should be used if one wants to support as wide as
possible?

OpenSync or SyncML?

-- 
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Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
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From mir at miras.org  Mon Dec 26 21:52:41 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 21:52:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] syncing Android contacts with Claws
In-Reply-To: <20111226081508.1a7c236e@atmarama.noip.me>
References: <20111224234234.066a59f5@atmarama.noip.me>
	<20111225141739.01117347@wodan>
	<20111226081508.1a7c236e@atmarama.noip.me>
Message-ID: <20111226215241.53bd02d2@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 08:15:08 +0100
Gour <gour at atmarama.net> wrote:

> 
> Yesterday I was told that upcoming work on new addressbook might be
> plugin-based, so it could be possible to have e.g. SyncML plugin.
> 
You are right, the new address book will be plugin based. At the moment
I am considering to write a vCard extension. Being able to import and
export to vCard format should enable you to make a manual
synchronization with your phone.

> I also found some LDAP sync client at Market, but don't know if it's
> still developed, and LDAP, in general, is not fun to me. :-)
> 
Android can export all your cantacts as vCard and there exits numerous
tools for converting vCard format to LDIF format. 

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From gour at atmarama.net  Mon Dec 26 23:51:03 2011
From: gour at atmarama.net (Gour)
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 23:51:03 +0100
Subject: [Users] syncing Android contacts with Claws
References: <20111224234234.066a59f5@atmarama.noip.me>
	<20111225141739.01117347@wodan>
	<20111226081508.1a7c236e@atmarama.noip.me>
	<20111226215241.53bd02d2@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20111226235103.29692332@atmarama.noip.me>

On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 21:52:41 +0100
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> You are right, the new address book will be plugin based. At the
> moment I am considering to write a vCard extension. Being able to
> import and export to vCard format should enable you to make a manual
> synchronization with your phone.

That would be great...Claws is, afaict, superior to Thunderbird as mail
client, but it is lacking in support for syncing (or some PIM features)
which makes me to consider TB...otoh, having only mbox in TB is scary as
well.

> Android can export all your cantacts as vCard and there exits numerous
> tools for converting vCard format to LDIF format. 

Thanks. Will investigate more about it.


Sincerely,
Gour.

-- 
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faultily, than another's duties perfectly. Destruction in the course 
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Dec 27 11:08:33 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 11:08:33 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2569] New: select html part on folder spesific
	properties
Message-ID: <bug-2569-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2569

           Summary: select html part on folder spesific properties
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.7.10
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Folders
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: bleketux at gmail.com


The option to set "Select html part of multipart/alternative message" is
already in global preferences
(Configuration>Preferences>TextOptions>HTMLMessages).

It would be nice if we can set only on spesific folder properties (right click
on folder>properties).

Thank you.

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From colin at colino.net  Wed Dec 28 14:17:33 2011
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:17:33 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20111222081441.4272296b@leda.vpn.lugor.de>
References: <20111216130153.1983e551@thewildbeast>
	<20111216155919.000021fe@minnit.de>
	<20111216162154.4aeec4d5@colin.i-run.fr>
	<20111221131605.7d33e626@leda.vpn.lugor.de>
	<20111222004210.3f3ab8a6@sumiciu>
	<20111222081441.4272296b@leda.vpn.lugor.de>
Message-ID: <20111228141733.2df08b3d@colin.i-run.fr>

On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 08:14:41 +0100, Christian Hesse <list at eworm.de>
wrote:

Hi,

> Personally I do not care using development snapshots. A lot of users
> do I suppose.

No one on the team (that I know of) uses Claws Mail on Windows.

Under these conditions, labelling any Windows build "stable" would be
showing a lot of faith.

Our Windows port is based on CVS snapshots, because most of the time,
releases don't build on Windows due to some Windows peculiarity that
nobody noticed before.

For example, 3.8.0 doesn't build on Windows because there's one
GTK+2.18 call that we missed, and the Windows port ships with GTK+2.16. 

That's why the latest and greatest build for Windows is based on
3.8.0cvs6. And that's either that, or nothing : I'm not going to
cherry-pick and manually apply patches.

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From subscript at free.fr  Wed Dec 28 14:21:57 2011
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:21:57 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20111228141733.2df08b3d@colin.i-run.fr>
References: <20111216130153.1983e551@thewildbeast>
	<20111216155919.000021fe@minnit.de>
	<20111216162154.4aeec4d5@colin.i-run.fr>
	<20111221131605.7d33e626@leda.vpn.lugor.de>
	<20111222004210.3f3ab8a6@sumiciu>
	<20111222081441.4272296b@leda.vpn.lugor.de>
	<20111228141733.2df08b3d@colin.i-run.fr>
Message-ID: <20111228142157.49e00490@monolith>

Hello Colin,


On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:17:33 +0100 Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 08:14:41 +0100, Christian Hesse <list at eworm.de>
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> > Personally I do not care using development snapshots. A lot of users
> > do I suppose.
> 
> No one on the team (that I know of) uses Claws Mail on Windows.
[snip]

I do! It's not my main use, but I spend maybe few % of my user time
using the Windows port (when sat in front of my GF's computer - ask why
women spend so much time in the bathroom?).

Formerly I planned to provide coding time for this specific platform,
but as you could see, I didn't spend too much time globally on CM
during the past 3 years, and even less on the Windows port.


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From sylpheed-claws-users at lists.evervoid.net  Wed Dec 28 15:34:29 2011
From: sylpheed-claws-users at lists.evervoid.net (Steve Braun)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 15:34:29 +0100
Subject: [Users] GData plugin: contact limit not enough
Message-ID: <20111228153429.75109d06@stargazer>

Hi,

I didn't find the plugin on the Bug Tracker, so I'm sending this to the
list.

Recently I noticed that the GData plugin isn't working any longer as
expected. Only 20 of my more than 100 contacts where fetched and
cached. I checked the limit property, but it was set to max (1000).

After checking the debug output, I found out that this max limit of
1000 fetched contacts is no longer enough.

Why so? With google+ Google started to store all your google+ contact
in the GMail contact list (but not in your main address book). Most of
them don't have email addresses attached.

The debug output showed, that the plugin fetched 880 of my google+
contacts and only 20 of my address book. With having more than 1000
google+ contact, I never will get all my original GMail contacts.

Raising the fetch limit would be the easiest solution, but in the end I
don't want the email address of a google+ contact to show up as long as
I did not move it to "my contacts" on purpose.

So a real fix to this problem would be to only fetch the contacts that
are marked as "my contacts".

If I should open a bug report for this, please say so.

Cheers,
Steve


From berndth at gmx.de  Wed Dec 28 16:43:10 2011
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 16:43:10 +0100
Subject: [Users] syncing Android contacts with Claws
In-Reply-To: <20111226153228.260ac658@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20111224234234.066a59f5@atmarama.noip.me>
	<20111225141739.01117347@wodan>
	<20111226153228.260ac658@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20111228164310.6363e71b@wodan>

On Mo, 26.12.2011 15:32, Michael Rasmussen wrote:

>What protocol should be used if one wants to support as wide as
>possible?
>
>OpenSync or SyncML?

I'm not aware that OpenSync is a protocol. It's a sync framework.

Holger


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 28 19:53:15 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 19:53:15 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2471] Make setting an X-Mailer header optional
In-Reply-To: <bug-2471-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2471-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111228185316.124E620069@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2471


Fabian Keil <fk at fabiankeil.de> changed:

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--- Comment #19 from Fabian Keil  2011-12-28 19:53:15 ---
Looks like 3.8.0 is missing the "Do not suppress the 'Generate X-Mailer'
option for new IMAP accounts" patch, which still applies cleanly.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 28 20:22:34 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 20:22:34 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2471] Make setting an X-Mailer header optional
In-Reply-To: <bug-2471-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2471-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111228192234.D39D220069@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2471


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--- Comment #20 from Paul  2011-12-28 20:22:34 ---
It's there. See the 'Send' page of the IMAP account prefs for the 'Generate
X-Mailer header' option

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 28 20:24:27 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 20:24:27 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2471] Make setting an X-Mailer header optional
In-Reply-To: <bug-2471-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2471-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111228192427.B253D20069@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2471


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--- Comment #21 from Paul  2011-12-28 20:24:27 ---
Ok, i was too quick - you are right: the option does not appear in the options
on the initial new account

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Dec 28 20:34:36 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 20:34:36 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2471] Make setting an X-Mailer header optional
In-Reply-To: <bug-2471-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2471-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111228193436.CBC9120069@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2471


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--- Comment #22 from Paul  2011-12-28 20:34:36 ---
That's now fixed at v.3.8.0cvs7

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From horsley1953 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 29 00:43:10 2011
From: horsley1953 at gmail.com (Tom Horsley)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 18:43:10 -0500
Subject: [Users] How to write this plugin?
Message-ID: <20111228184310.77641a34@zooty>

I'm wondering how much work it would be to write a new plugin,
possibly named "Trollkiller".

The idea would be to mark either mail from specific users
as troll messages, or just a particular message as a troll.

Then the plugin would remember (possibly in a sqlite
database) the message IDs of the troll messages,
search for them in incoming References: headers
and add new message IDs to the troll list.

The goal: to utterly eradicate all threads following up
a troll. Either make them be silently deleted
or send them to a troll cage inbox.

If sufficient time elapses with no more follow ups
to a troll thread, the database could be cleaned of those
message IDs.

"Please don't feed the trolls" works only when everyone
follows that philosophy, but since virtually no one follows
that rule, this plugin could simulate a world in which
the rule was being followed :-).


From bdm at fenrir.org.uk  Thu Dec 29 01:21:17 2011
From: bdm at fenrir.org.uk (Brian Morrison)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 00:21:17 +0000
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20111228141733.2df08b3d@colin.i-run.fr>
References: <20111216130153.1983e551@thewildbeast>
	<20111216155919.000021fe@minnit.de>
	<20111216162154.4aeec4d5@colin.i-run.fr>
	<20111221131605.7d33e626@leda.vpn.lugor.de>
	<20111222004210.3f3ab8a6@sumiciu>
	<20111222081441.4272296b@leda.vpn.lugor.de>
	<20111228141733.2df08b3d@colin.i-run.fr>
Message-ID: <20111229002117.125f6ca7@peterson.fenrir.org.uk>

On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:17:33 +0100
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

> That's why the latest and greatest build for Windows is based on
> 3.8.0cvs6. And that's either that, or nothing : I'm not going to
> cherry-pick and manually apply patches.

What you provide is great Colin, I don't actually want to use CM on
Windows but the work PC runs it so it's that or not use it at all.

I've had very little trouble with it other than an inexplicable problem
with crashes in the account dialog some time ago. It cleared up without
any obvious reason why.

-- 

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                "I am not young enough to know everything"
                                                          Oscar Wilde


From rol at witbe.net  Thu Dec 29 08:44:46 2011
From: rol at witbe.net (Paul Rolland (=?UTF-8?B?44Od44O844Or44O744Ot44Op44Oz?=))
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 08:44:46 +0100
Subject: [Users] How to write this plugin?
In-Reply-To: <20111228184310.77641a34@zooty>
References: <20111228184310.77641a34@zooty>
Message-ID: <20111229084446.085afba4@tux.DEF.witbe.net>

Hello Tom,

On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 18:43:10 -0500
Tom Horsley <horsley1953 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm wondering how much work it would be to write a new plugin,
> possibly named "Trollkiller".
> 
> The idea would be to mark either mail from specific users
> as troll messages, or just a particular message as a troll.
> 
> Then the plugin would remember (possibly in a sqlite
> database) the message IDs of the troll messages,
> search for them in incoming References: headers
> and add new message IDs to the troll list.

I must say that I like the idea... so I tried to see what could be done
with Claws today (version 3.8.0) to try to have that without going thru a
plugin...
First, I though about creating an Action, that could be associated with a
button. So I checked actions, and discovered that one of them was :
"Ignore thread"
But I can't find it in any menu, and I don't have any idea about what it
does... but the name sounds promising ;)

I also check what happens when you right-click on a message, and the menu
that appears contains :
Create filter rule
Create processing rule
Each of them can be created by Subject, From, To and "Automatically" by
selecting manually some criteria. Maybe that could be extended to have a :
Create filter rule > By Message-ID 

That would probably allow some steps in the direction of the TrollKiller
feature (that I'd use if available !) without going the plugin way...

Best,
Paul

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From berndth at gmx.de  Thu Dec 29 14:03:45 2011
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:03:45 +0100
Subject: [Users] GData plugin: contact limit not enough
In-Reply-To: <20111228153429.75109d06@stargazer>
References: <20111228153429.75109d06@stargazer>
Message-ID: <20111229140345.4fc2f4fd@wodan>

On Mi, 28.12.2011 15:34, Steve Braun wrote:

>Why so? With google+ Google started to store all your google+ contact
>in the GMail contact list (but not in your main address book). Most of
>them don't have email addresses attached.

I think the first problem is that even though it doesn't make any sense
to receive contacts without attached email adresses for Claws Mail,
Google seems to lack a corresponding filter in its protocol and search
options. I'm afraid there's nothing I can do about that.

>The debug output showed, that the plugin fetched 880 of my google+
>contacts and only 20 of my address book. With having more than 1000
>google+ contact, I never will get all my original GMail contacts.

The second problem is that the upper limit of 1000 is arbitrary, and
not really necessary. Fortunately, that's easy to fix.

>Raising the fetch limit would be the easiest solution, but in the end I
>don't want the email address of a google+ contact to show up as long as
>I did not move it to "my contacts" on purpose.
>
>So a real fix to this problem would be to only fetch the contacts that
>are marked as "my contacts".

I agree. In fact, not being an active Google+ user, I wasn't even aware
Google+ contacts are included.

Holger


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 29 15:15:49 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:15:49 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2408] Some UI elements are not persistent between
	sessions
In-Reply-To: <bug-2408-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2408-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111229141550.309E720578@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2408


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--- Comment #3 from Oona  2011-12-29 15:15:49 ---
*** Bug 2565 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 29 15:15:49 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:15:49 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2565] Window size shrinks on every program start
In-Reply-To: <bug-2565-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2565-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111229141549.8AE971FEFD@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2565


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--- Comment #1 from Oona  2011-12-29 15:15:49 ---
Duplicate and fixed in 3.8.0

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 2408 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 29 15:20:47 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:20:47 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2377] Show All Headers - make change persistent
 between sessions
In-Reply-To: <bug-2377-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2377-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111229142047.A53CA1FEFD@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2377


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 29 15:20:54 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:20:54 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2408] Some UI elements are not persistent between
	sessions
In-Reply-To: <bug-2408-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2408-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111229142054.C42022053B@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2408


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 29 15:22:08 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:22:08 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2565] Window size shrinks on every program start
In-Reply-To: <bug-2565-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2565-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111229142208.8F4DF1FEFD@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2565





--- Comment #2 from Colin Leroy  2011-12-29 15:22:08 ---
That's not really a dupe of #2408 but it's been fixed during 3.8.0 development
(3.7.10cvs75 iirc)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 29 15:23:39 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:23:39 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2525] Address completion window does not get keyboard
	focus
In-Reply-To: <bug-2525-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2525-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2525


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 29 15:24:18 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:24:18 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2526] When reading message in separate window,
 'n' and 'p' keys do not work
In-Reply-To: <bug-2526-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2526-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111229142418.19E351FEFD@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2526


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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:24:39 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2529] crash in mimeview_start_drag after deleting
	message
In-Reply-To: <bug-2529-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2529-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2529


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 29 15:26:06 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:26:06 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2555] att_remover plugin crash case
In-Reply-To: <bug-2555-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2555-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111229142606.E2D521FEFD@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2555


Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> changed:

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--- Comment #5 from Colin Leroy  2011-12-29 15:26:06 ---
2011-12-05 [pawel]      1.0.12cvs1

        * commitHelper
                Support bash not in /bin 
        * src/att_remover.c
                Split removal of attachments to 2 phases, first remove
                selected attachments and in second phase remove uneeded
                multipart leftovers. This allows us to avoid crashers and
                leave more sane MIME structure afterwards.
                Fixes bug #2555 'att_remover plugin crash case'

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 29 15:26:26 2011
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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:26:26 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2556] CM freezes during creation of new filter
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From gour at atmarama.net  Thu Dec 29 16:21:26 2011
From: gour at atmarama.net (Gour)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 16:21:26 +0100
Subject: [Users] syncing Android contacts with Claws
References: <20111224234234.066a59f5@atmarama.noip.me>
	<20111225141739.01117347@wodan>
	<20111226153228.260ac658@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20111229162126.2f201be5@atmarama.noip.me>

On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:32:28 +0100
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> OpenSync or SyncML?

Having SyncML plugin for Claws would be nice. I just subscribed to
Memotoo service...


Sincerely,
Gour

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From mir at miras.org  Thu Dec 29 16:26:10 2011
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 16:26:10 +0100
Subject: [Users] syncing Android contacts with Claws
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 16:21:26 +0100
Gour <gour at atmarama.net> wrote:

> 
> Having SyncML plugin for Claws would be nice. I just subscribed to
> Memotoo service...
> 
I have decided to make a vCard import/export extension first so that
people may manually synchronize their contacts. A SyncML plugin is more
complicated so I will add this to the feature request list for the
moment.

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From gour at atmarama.net  Thu Dec 29 16:53:02 2011
From: gour at atmarama.net (Gour)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 16:53:02 +0100
Subject: [Users] syncing Android contacts with Claws
References: <20111224234234.066a59f5@atmarama.noip.me>
	<20111225141739.01117347@wodan>
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 16:26:10 +0100
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> I have decided to make a vCard import/export extension first so that
> people may manually synchronize their contacts. A SyncML plugin is
> more complicated so I will add this to the feature request list for
> the moment.

Thanks a lot for vCard import/export. It will also add lot of value to
Claws...and we, anyway, decided, to stay with it since TB supports mbox
only: :-/


Sincerely,
Gour

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From linux at slavino.sk  Thu Dec 29 18:15:56 2011
From: linux at slavino.sk (Slavko)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:15:56 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20111228141733.2df08b3d@colin.i-run.fr>
References: <20111216130153.1983e551@thewildbeast>
	<20111216155919.000021fe@minnit.de>
	<20111216162154.4aeec4d5@colin.i-run.fr>
	<20111221131605.7d33e626@leda.vpn.lugor.de>
	<20111222004210.3f3ab8a6@sumiciu>
	<20111222081441.4272296b@leda.vpn.lugor.de>
	<20111228141733.2df08b3d@colin.i-run.fr>
Message-ID: <20111229181556.38580cd7@bonifac.skk>

Hi,

Dňa Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:17:33 +0100 Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> napísal:

> > Personally I do not care using development snapshots. A lot of users
> > do I suppose.
> 
> Under these conditions, labelling any Windows build "stable" would be
> showing a lot of faith.

I can agree, that cvs labelling is true, but users can be confused.

I am using CM at home under Linux and at work under Windows, but by initial
windows download i was confused and i did some search for non cvs release.
Perhaps because i know what CVS is and perhaps i treat CVS snapshot as more
for development (testing) than for using.

> Our Windows port is based on CVS snapshots, because most of the time,
> releases don't build on Windows due to some Windows peculiarity that
> nobody noticed before.

IMO, all stable versions are CVS snapshots ;-)

> 
> For example, 3.8.0 doesn't build on Windows because there's one
> GTK+2.18 call that we missed, and the Windows port ships with GTK+2.16. 
> 
> That's why the latest and greatest build for Windows is based on
> 3.8.0cvs6. And that's either that, or nothing : I'm not going to
> cherry-pick and manually apply patches.

Labeling it as beta will be more user friendly and will indicate the his
status too.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 29 18:40:42 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:40:42 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2471] Make setting an X-Mailer header optional
In-Reply-To: <bug-2471-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2471-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #23 from Fabian Keil  2011-12-29 18:40:42 ---
Thanks, Paul.

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From bbowler at bigelow.org  Thu Dec 29 20:57:01 2011
From: bbowler at bigelow.org (Bruce Bowler)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:57:01 -0500
Subject: [Users] newbie q about claws and windows
Message-ID: <20111229145701.00000db1@unknown>

I'm in the process of switching from sylpheed to claws and there's an
option in sylpheed that I don't see in claws and that's the ability to
minimize to the tray.

I'm sure I missed something obvious, but I don't see it :-)

Thanks for any tips.

Bruce


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 29 21:15:57 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:15:57 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2570] New: bz2 is actually a gz file
Message-ID: <bug-2570-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2570

           Summary: bz2 is actually a gz file
           Product: Website
           Version: unspecified
          Platform: All
               URL: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/sylpheed-claws/claws-
                    mail-extra-plugins-3.8.0.tar.bz2
        OS/Version: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: General
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: andreas.bierfert at lowlatency.de


file claws-mail-extra-plugins-3.8.0.tar.bz2
claws-mail-extra-plugins-3.8.0.tar.bz2: gzip compressed data, from Unix, last
modified: Fri Dec 16 12:41:26 2011

sha256sum claws-mail-extra-plugins-3.8.0.tar.bz2
032a2fa550c74d0894f38db97c9642e337de1a93a524940ad50196dcb80c61c3 
claws-mail-extra-plugins-3.8.0.tar.bz2

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 29 21:22:36 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:22:36 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2570] claws-mail-extra-plugins 3.8.0 bzip2 is actually
 a gzip file
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2570


Andreas Bierfert <andreas.bierfert at lowlatency.de> changed:

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                   |                            |3.8.0 bzip2 is actually a
                   |                            |gzip file




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From seelenhirt at gmx.net  Thu Dec 29 22:43:51 2011
From: seelenhirt at gmx.net (seelenhirt)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:43:51 +0100
Subject: [Users] newbie q about claws and windows
In-Reply-To: <20111229145701.00000db1@unknown>
References: <20111229145701.00000db1@unknown>
Message-ID: <20111229224351.1d20b2ff@eris.sumpf>

Hi Bruce

> I'm in the process of switching from sylpheed to claws and there's an
> option in sylpheed that I don't see in claws and that's the ability to
> minimize to the tray.
> 

There is a plugin named TrayIcon [1]. In the preferrences dialog of the
plugin you can set this behaviour.

Regards,
Marius

[1] http://www.claws-mail.org/plugin.php?plugin=trayicon


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 29 23:07:03 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:07:03 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2505] tagsdb becomes polluted with old folder entries
In-Reply-To: <bug-2505-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2505-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111229220703.3BBE01FEFD@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2505


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 29 23:07:39 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:07:39 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2493] Subscription pull down should be alphabetized
In-Reply-To: <bug-2493-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 29 23:08:52 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:08:52 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2422] Toggle Message View w/ 'V' crashes Claws
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 29 23:09:26 2011
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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:09:26 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2406] some part of accountrc not updated upon account
	rename
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 29 23:09:50 2011
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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:09:50 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2404] matcherrc updates upon account renaming
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 29 23:10:59 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:10:59 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2303] Next unread message enables message view
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 29 23:12:27 2011
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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:12:27 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2177] addrbook/addrbook-00000?.xml is not deleted
 after removing the address book in the GUI
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 29 23:15:27 2011
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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:15:27 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1870] arrow scrolling in filters
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Dec 29 23:17:03 2011
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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:17:03 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 1563] Folder view: show complete threads if they
 contain unread messages
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Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 00:17:36 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2047] forward attachments
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2047





--- Comment #1 from users  2011-12-30 00:17:35 ---
Changes related to this bug have been committed.
Please check latest CVS and update the bug accordingly.
You can also get the patch from:
http://www.colino.net/claws-mail/

2011-12-29 [pawel]    3.8.0cvs8

    * src/compose.c
    * src/compose.h
    * src/main.c
    * src/mimeview.c
        Make forwarding selected attachment possible from
        mimeview's context menu
        Fixex bug #2047 'forward attachments'

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From ricardo at mones.org  Fri Dec 30 01:53:44 2011
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:53:44 +0100
Subject: [Users] newbie q about claws and windows
In-Reply-To: <20111229224351.1d20b2ff@eris.sumpf>
References: <20111229145701.00000db1@unknown>
	<20111229224351.1d20b2ff@eris.sumpf>
Message-ID: <20111230005344.GF5479@trasgu>

  Hi,

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:43:51PM +0100, seelenhirt wrote:
> Hi Bruce
> 
> > I'm in the process of switching from sylpheed to claws and there's an
> > option in sylpheed that I don't see in claws and that's the ability to
> > minimize to the tray.
> > 
> 
> There is a plugin named TrayIcon [1]. In the preferrences dialog of the
> plugin you can set this behaviour.
> 
> Regards,
> Marius
> 
> [1] http://www.claws-mail.org/plugin.php?plugin=trayicon

  The trayicon plugin isn't ported to Win32. You can use the notification
plugin, which is ported, and clicking on the try icon minimizes Claws Mail.

  regards,
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  ~
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From crlipton at gol.com  Fri Dec 30 05:00:59 2011
From: crlipton at gol.com (Charles Lipton)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 13:00:59 +0900
Subject: [Users] Scheduled Availability for Extra-Plugins
Message-ID: <20111230130059.3ccc69fb@onk-01>

Is there a scheduled release for v3.8.0 versions of the extra-plugins
set?  I am desperately in need of an HTML viewer that works as I belong
to several discussion groups that are bilingual HTML only (English,
Chinese, and Japanese) and the visible garbage is getting too thick to
enable posts to be read.  ClamAV is also broken until an upgrade is
available.

-- 
Charles Lipton
Kashima, Japan


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 30 11:02:31 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:02:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] Scheduled Availability for Extra-Plugins
In-Reply-To: <20111230130059.3ccc69fb@onk-01>
References: <20111230130059.3ccc69fb@onk-01>
Message-ID: <20111230100231.67d201cd@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 13:00:59 +0900
Charles Lipton <crlipton at gol.com> wrote: 

> Is there a scheduled release for v3.8.0 versions of the
> extra-plugins set?  I am desperately in need of an HTML viewer that
> works as I belong to several discussion groups that are bilingual
> HTML only (English, Chinese, and Japanese) and the visible garbage
> is getting too thick to enable posts to be read.  ClamAV is also
> broken until an upgrade is available.

The 3.8.0 extra plugins package was released at the same time as
Claws Mail 3.8.0.

with regards

Paul


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 30 11:20:52 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 11:20:52 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2570] claws-mail-extra-plugins 3.8.0 bzip2 is actually
 a gzip file
In-Reply-To: <bug-2570-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2570-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111230102052.AD5BF202E6@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2570


Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |FIXED




--- Comment #1 from Paul  2011-12-30 11:20:52 ---
fixed

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From r.brusa at gmx.ch  Fri Dec 30 12:26:46 2011
From: r.brusa at gmx.ch (Roman Brusa)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 12:26:46 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!
In-Reply-To: <20111216130153.1983e551@thewildbeast>
References: <20111216130153.1983e551@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20111230122646.264a7d36@rbits.ch>

Hi, on Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:01:53 +0000, Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>
wrote:

>16th December 2011                                   Claws Mail 3.8.0
>
>		    CLAWS MAIL  RELEASE NOTES
>                    http://www.claws-mail.org

Do we get this also in the PPA for Ubuntu Lucid 10.04 (LTS)?

Thanks to everybody, I'm so happy with claws. ;)

Roman
-- 
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es nicht vier Freunde auf der Welt gaebe. - Blaise Pascal


From crlipton at gol.com  Fri Dec 30 13:11:13 2011
From: crlipton at gol.com (Charles Lipton)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 21:11:13 +0900
Subject: [Users] Scheduled Availability for Extra-Plugins
In-Reply-To: <20111230100231.67d201cd@thewildbeast>
References: <20111230130059.3ccc69fb@onk-01>
	<20111230100231.67d201cd@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20111230211113.4e04967c@onk-01>

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:02:31 +0000, Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk>
wrote:

>On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 13:00:59 +0900
>Charles Lipton <crlipton at gol.com> wrote: 
>
>> Is there a scheduled release for v3.8.0 versions of the
>> extra-plugins set?  I am desperately in need of an HTML viewer that
>> works as I belong to several discussion groups that are bilingual
>> HTML only (English, Chinese, and Japanese) and the visible garbage
>> is getting too thick to enable posts to be read.  ClamAV is also
>> broken until an upgrade is available.
>
>The 3.8.0 extra plugins package was released at the same time as
>Claws Mail 3.8.0.

It isn't showing in the *buntu onieric PPA.  All "extra-plugin" items
are still appearing as 3.7.10 although the standard "plugins" are all
at 3.8.1 ... so I am half-and-half properly upgraded.

-- 
Charles Lipton


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 30 13:19:01 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 13:19:01 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2571] New: Feature request: Open Source Code in user
 defined Viewer
Message-ID: <bug-2571-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2571

           Summary: Feature request: Open Source Code in user defined
                    Viewer
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.7.6
          Platform: All
        OS/Version: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message View
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: schorsch at schorsch.de


It's very annoying to handle the source code of mails in the relative dumb
internal source code viewer. Amongst lot others the complete lack of a search
function is a pain everytime, I must analyze a source code.

No! This isn't a request to integrate any sloppy search function into the
source code window. Don't try to reinvent a wheel in a time of automobiles! Let
the user define a viewer of it's own choice. It would be absolutely sufficient
to open sources in the user defined text editor from the settings.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 30 13:26:53 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 13:26:53 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2571] Feature request: Open Source Code in user
	defined Viewer
In-Reply-To: <bug-2571-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2571-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111230122653.A3218202E6@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2571





--- Comment #1 from Holger Berndt  2011-12-30 13:26:53 ---
The wheel doesn't need to be reinvented, it's already there: You can create an
action to open mail file(s) in an editor of your choice.

gedit %F

Personally I think that's good enough to avoid yet another exotic config
option.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 30 13:37:39 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 13:37:39 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2571] Feature request: Open Source Code in user
	defined Viewer
In-Reply-To: <bug-2571-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2571-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111230123739.D7ED72034E@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2571


Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |INVALID




--- Comment #2 from Colin Leroy  2011-12-30 13:37:39 ---
Or right-click the top-level message/rfc822 part and use "Open with" :)
Marking invalid.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 30 13:56:41 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 13:56:41 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2571] Feature request: Open Source Code in user
	defined Viewer
In-Reply-To: <bug-2571-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2571-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111230125641.29C13202E6@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2571


schorsch at schorsch.de changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|RESOLVED                    |REOPENED
         Resolution|INVALID                     |




--- Comment #3 from schorsch  2011-12-30 13:56:40 ---
Sounds promising. I'm used to open source code via key Ctrl+U. My problem would
be solved, when the standard choice choosen by mouse click would become the
standard for Ctrl+U too.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 30 14:01:46 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:01:46 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2571] Feature request: Open Source Code in user
	defined Viewer
In-Reply-To: <bug-2571-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2571-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111230130146.D6D12202E6@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2571


Holger Berndt <hb at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|REOPENED                    |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |INVALID




--- Comment #4 from Holger Berndt  2011-12-30 14:01:46 ---
Create an action as I suggested, and assign Ctrl-U as a shortcut.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 30 14:08:58 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:08:58 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2571] Feature request: Open Source Code in user
	defined Viewer
In-Reply-To: <bug-2571-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2571-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20111230130859.0C797202E6@paperstreet.colino.net>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2571





--- Comment #5 from schorsch  2011-12-30 14:08:58 ---
@Holger: Finally understood, what you meant with 'create an action' Thanks a
lot and Guten Rutsch

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From bbowler at bigelow.org  Fri Dec 30 14:23:54 2011
From: bbowler at bigelow.org (Bruce Bowler)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:23:54 -0500
Subject: [Users] questions about trash and execute
Message-ID: <20111230082354.00004b42@unknown>

Another "issue" has cropped up in my conversion from sylpheed to claws
and again, it's probably something stupid that I'm missing...

I'm running 3.8.0cvs6 on windows, downloaded yesterday, in the event
that it makes a difference.

I have unchecked the "execute deletes immediately" option, as I had
done in sylpheed.

2 behaviors that are different in claws (at least as I have it
configured) are 

1) that clicking "trash" moves the highlighted line in the Message pane
to the next message, but doesn't open the message.  I find no option to
change that behavior (sylpheed moves to the next message and opens it).

2) when I press the execute button, nothing appears to happen.  What I
expected to happen, and what happens in sylpheed, is that the marked
messages would be moved to the trash folder and the message pane would
be redrawn without the marked messages.

Have I "aimed too high" or have I missed a configuration option
somewhere along the line?

Thanks!
Bruce


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 30 14:47:46 2011
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 13:47:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] questions about trash and execute
In-Reply-To: <20111230082354.00004b42@unknown>
References: <20111230082354.00004b42@unknown>
Message-ID: <20111230134746.2d69b78f@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:23:54 -0500
Bruce Bowler <bbowler at bigelow.org> wrote: 

> 1) that clicking "trash" moves the highlighted line in the Message
> pane to the next message, but doesn't open the message.  I find no
> option to change that behavior (sylpheed moves to the next message
> and opens it).

That's controlled by the 'Open message when selected ...." option on
the /Display/Sumaries page. If you haven't set it to 'always' then it
won't open the message.

> 2) when I press the execute button, nothing appears to happen.
> What I expected to happen, and what happens in sylpheed, is that
> the marked messages would be moved to the trash folder and the
> message pane would be redrawn without the marked messages.

Works for me.

with regards

Paul


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From colin at colino.net  Fri Dec 30 15:21:43 2011
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:21:43 +0100
Subject: [Users] Scheduled Availability for Extra-Plugins
In-Reply-To: <20111230211113.4e04967c@onk-01>
References: <20111230130059.3ccc69fb@onk-01>
	<20111230100231.67d201cd@thewildbeast>
	<20111230211113.4e04967c@onk-01>
Message-ID: <20111230152143.7156df77@colin>

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 21:11:13 +0900, Charles Lipton <crlipton at gol.com>
wrote:

Hi,

> It isn't showing in the *buntu onieric PPA.  All "extra-plugin" items
> are still appearing as 3.7.10 although the standard "plugins" are all
> at 3.8.1 ... so I am half-and-half properly upgraded.

They should be there now.

HTH,
-- 
Colin


From crlipton at gol.com  Fri Dec 30 17:16:37 2011
From: crlipton at gol.com (Charles Lipton)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 01:16:37 +0900
Subject: [Users] Scheduled Availability for Extra-Plugins
In-Reply-To: <20111230152143.7156df77@colin>
References: <20111230130059.3ccc69fb@onk-01>
	<20111230100231.67d201cd@thewildbeast>
	<20111230211113.4e04967c@onk-01> <20111230152143.7156df77@colin>
Message-ID: <20111231011637.33ea5d96@onk-01>

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:21:43 +0100, Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net>
wrote:

>On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 21:11:13 +0900, Charles Lipton <crlipton at gol.com>
>wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>> It isn't showing in the *buntu onieric PPA.  All "extra-plugin" items
>> are still appearing as 3.7.10 although the standard "plugins" are all
>> at 3.8.1 ... so I am half-and-half properly upgraded.
>
>They should be there now.
>
>HTH,

Thanks, Colin.  They were updated and everything is working better than
before.  And multiple language implementation for Asian fonts seems to
be smoother than before.

-- 
Charles Lipton
Kashima, Japan


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Dec 30 19:10:23 2011
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:10:23 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2572] New: case sensitive switch is inverted,
 in Extended searches
Message-ID: <bug-2572-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2572

           Summary: case sensitive switch is inverted, in Extended
                    searches
           Product: Claws Mail (Windows)
           Version: 3.7.10
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Windows XP
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: default
        AssignedTo: users at lists.claws-mail.org
        ReportedBy: mg at ez-info.com


Windows 7 x64

I'm able to repeat this and send screenshots if necessary.

When I set up extended searches and leave the "Case sensitive" box unchecked,
it is passing the "matchcase" parameter.

When I check the box, which should then mean that the search becomes case
sensitive, it then passes a simple "match" parameter.

If I'm not mistaken this should be reversed.  Or...  ?

skibum

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From sylpheed-claws-users at lists.evervoid.net  Fri Dec 30 20:48:54 2011
From: sylpheed-claws-users at lists.evervoid.net (Steve Braun)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 20:48:54 +0100
Subject: [Users] GData plugin: contact limit not enough
In-Reply-To: <20111229140345.4fc2f4fd@wodan>
References: <20111228153429.75109d06@stargazer> <20111229140345.4fc2f4fd@wodan>
Message-ID: <20111230204854.0fe75c30@stargazer>


Holger Berndt (29.12.2011, 14:03:45):
>The second problem is that the upper limit of 1000 is arbitrary, and
>not really necessary. Fortunately, that's easy to fix.
[…]
>I agree. In fact, not being an active Google+ user, I wasn't even aware
>Google+ contacts are included.

FYI the maximum number of people you are allowed to follow on google+
is 5000, so according to your previous limit, the new upper limit
should be at least 6000 ;-)

Since you said the number was arbitrary, I recompiled the plugin with a
limit of 10000 and now everything works again as expected. Just make
sure to change the limit for the next version.

Thanks for the info,
Steve


From berndth at gmx.de  Sat Dec 31 01:53:01 2011
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 01:53:01 +0100
Subject: [Users] GData plugin: contact limit not enough
In-Reply-To: <20111230204854.0fe75c30@stargazer>
References: <20111228153429.75109d06@stargazer> <20111229140345.4fc2f4fd@wodan>
	<20111230204854.0fe75c30@stargazer>
Message-ID: <20111231015301.0cdce3c8@wodan>

On Fr, 30.12.2011 20:48, Steve Braun wrote:

>Since you said the number was arbitrary, I recompiled the plugin with a
>limit of 10000 and now everything works again as expected. Just make
>sure to change the limit for the next version.

I just committed a change that increases the receive limit to cvs.

More interestingly, I also commited a change that makes sure only
contacts in the "My Contacts" system group are received in the first
place, which should make above change pretty much obsolete (but still
sensible). That change requires at least libgdata 0.9.1.

If you're able to compile from cvs, and if you have libgdata >= 0.9.1
available, I'd be interested if plugin version 0.3cvs3 works for you
(check the network log how many contacts are received - it should drop
to what you have in your addressbook).

Holger


From horsley1953 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 31 02:29:34 2011
From: horsley1953 at gmail.com (Tom Horsley)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 20:29:34 -0500
Subject: [Users] How to write this plugin?
In-Reply-To: <20111229084446.085afba4@tux.DEF.witbe.net>
References: <20111228184310.77641a34@zooty>
	<20111229084446.085afba4@tux.DEF.witbe.net>
Message-ID: <20111230202934.45888f54@zooty>

On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 08:44:46 +0100
Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) wrote:

> Tom Horsley <horsley1953 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I'm wondering how much work it would be to write a new plugin,
> > possibly named "Trollkiller".
...
> I must say that I like the idea... so I tried to see what could be done
> with Claws today (version 3.8.0) to try to have that without going thru a
> plugin...

Well, I've been learning sqlite and working on an independent
program to use as a filter (much like I use bogofilter now),
and have this written up (and a lot of it even working):

http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/software/trollfilter/trollfilter.html

Hopefully it has enough different features that it would be
simple to interface with mail clients. Let me know if you
think something should work differently, or (better yet) if
you figure out how to get claws-mail to interact with it :-).