[Users] Mailing list replies - Was: Error while sending....

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:35:56 +0100, Stephan Braun wrote:
> Mahlzeit!
> 
> On 27.01.2015 at 10:34:51 Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com>
> wrote:
> >I welcome this feature. Not mailman is broken, Claws just has got an
> >issue because it's unable to handle it, so I guess I should address
> >my complain to Claws and not to mailman. Other MUAs are able to
> >handle it with horse-sense. It's not a question about what way is
> >the correct way or better way. It's very simple, Claws user mailing
> >list does use mailman, but can't handle mailman mailing list replies
> >as soon as somebody (me) enables not to receive duplicated mails, if
> >somebody send TO me and CC's to the list.
> 
> For the sake of common understanding I try to explain some
> misconceptions you seem to have:
> 
> 1. Mailman handles the mail of the "To:" address even if it is not the
>    list address
> 
>   This is wrong. Mailman can ONLY handle the mail that was sent to the
>   list address, no matter if sent via To: or Cc:
>   The feature you activated in Mailman is to detect, if the message
> was also sent to you directly (via To: or Cc:). In that case it
>   SUPPRESSES the delivery via list, so that you only get one copy of
>   the message.
>   IMPORTANT: the copy you received NEVER went through Mailman and
>   therefore has no list headers. It was sent DIRECTLY to YOU from the
>   SENDER. It is defacto no mailinglist message.
> 
> 2. Other MUAs recognize that this is a list message and handle it
>    accordingly.
> 
>   This is wrong. Other MUAs also have no means to recognize that this
>   message should be sent to a mailing list, because it lacks all the
>   relevant info.
>   The difference to Claws is that they seem to use another logic to
>   GENERALLY handle list replies. Claws overloads (puts more than one
>   functionality) on the simple "reply" button: if claws detects a list
>   message, a list reply is invoked. If it doesn't, a simple "reply to
>   sender" is invoked.
>   Other MUAs, as you explained, seem to overload the "reply to all"
>   button. If a list message is detected, a list reply is invoked. If
>   not, the default action (which is "reply to all") is invoked.
>   With your mail in question, the latter situation is true and you
>   only think the MUA somehow handles the situation correctly.
> 
> The only thing left is that you could question the design decision of
> the claws developers because you don't like the default action of the
> button you also use for list messages when the message you have IS NO
> list message but you WISH it would be.
> Good luck with that! ;-)

Actually you try to explain me, what I already pointed out :).

Regards,
Ralf