From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Nov  1 04:56:27 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2014 03:56:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3297] mark thread read
In-Reply-To: <bug-3297-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3297-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3297-595-u3lavfokS9@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3297

--- Comment #4 from Peter <0123peter at gmail.com> ---
Moonkid, 

There was some discussion on the mailing list, but you might not have seen it.  

You could join one of the mailing lists, or look at the archives on Gmain. 
They can be accessed several ways.  Start here, 
<http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.mail.sylpheed.claws.general>.

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From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au  Sat Nov  1 07:23:59 2014
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2014 17:23:59 +1100
Subject: [Users] Theme Contest 2014 unleashed!
In-Reply-To: <20141027101408.GK11058@trasgu>
References: <20141024004549.4ea9e2f2@busgosu> <20141026143053.36954e60@PPlive>
 <20141027101408.GK11058@trasgu>
Message-ID: <20141101172359.58a844c4@PPlive>

On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 11:14:08 +0100
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 02:30:53PM +1100, blind Pete wrote:
> > On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 00:45:49 +0200
> > Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:
> > 
> […]
> > >   http://www.claws-mail.org/theme-contest-2014.php
> > > 
> > >   Happy theming!
> > 
> > Is this the appropriate place to ask themeing questions?  
> 
> If about the contest, sure :)

Unless someone says otherwise, all of my CM themeing questions are
heading this way.  
 
> > Assuming it is; 
> > 
> > Does
> > <http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Icon_Themes_Information>
> > show the complete list of icons?  Why are "notice_error" and
> > "notice_warn" blank? 
> 
> Well, they probably got missing somehow. That page is informative,
> the authoritative list of icons is on sources, of course, and these
> you refer are there:
> 
> http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=tree;f=src/pixmaps

Didn't know about that page, it is an essential link.  

"Notice_error" and "notice_warn" appear to be obsolete, or planned but
never implemented enhancements.  I guess that users with old releases
should be told to upgrade and developers with half baked plans should
be prodded and asked what they are planning BEFORE the submission
date.  

Mime types look like problem.  There are icons for several mime types,
but many more mime types exist.  Should there be a minimum set of the
form, "mime_<type>"?  Perhaps an icon called, "mime_blank" which could
have text printed over it when a mime type without its own icon is
detected would be useful.  

Where does the blue circle with the white "i" on it live?  Is it buried
in some other source file?  

Why is there no "watchthread_btn" icon?  i.e. Something that looks
like "watchthead" but that matches the size and style of the toolbar.  

There are others that seem to be missing as well.  

> > Do all icons have a standard size, some are
> > listed, some are not.  I have designed an approximately double 
> > size set that suits me.
> 
> We're trying to replace current set, so it must fit in. Doubling
> the size, while useful for some, it's not suitable for a default.

I'm actually aiming to produce a special purpose set for my own needs,
but if people like the flavour it will be fairly easy to cut the size
down again afterwards.  

Because screen technology has improved dramatically, pixel size has
shrunk to the point that a healthy human eye can not resolve it.  That
is much smaller what was expected not so long ago.  Also computers are
no longer the domain of twenty year olds with perfect eyes.  It might be
time to make the default size much larger than it was, then adjust CM's
default configuration to suit.  It is mostly just configuration.  

> Said that, it could be (I don't know), that some icon could fit
> _better than current_ in the UI if slightly expanded or shrinked
> 1 or 2 pixels in some direction. If somebody finds that I think
> those changes would be acceptable, just write a note in an 
> accompanying README explaining icon.xpm is now XxY size because…

My current opinion is that bigger is better, but a hi-res / low-res
option might be desirable.  

> But in principle new icon sizes must match current icon sizes to
> ease replacement as much as possible.

Mostly it is very easy.  

> > Why do you prefer xpm to png?  Is it so that
> > icons can be included as "code"?  
> 
> Exactly, as they currently are.
> 
> > Which xpm version do you like?  There
> > seem to be a few versions.  Many many more questions to come.  
> 
> With the version used in source code :)
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_PixMap#XPM3
> 
> I've updated contest page with links to this and the full icon list
> in sources, thanks!

Gimp 2.6 can open CM's xpm format.  If it also saves in that format
then everything is fine.  Listing a couple of editors or conversion
programs that are known to produce acceptable formats could help.  Gimp
springs to mind because it is well known and available on multiple
operating systems.  

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From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au  Sat Nov  1 08:15:18 2014
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2014 18:15:18 +1100
Subject: [Users] [maybe-BUG] SSL-Handling
In-Reply-To: <20141030184415.3f4a31b5@thewildbeast>
References: <20141030165430.41E9525B17FA@mx02.posteo.de>
 <20141030165609.06ca8c72@thewildbeast>
 <20141030172857.31E9925C0081@mx02.posteo.de>
 <20141030184415.3f4a31b5@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141101181518.056a3eb9@PPlive>

On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 18:44:15 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 18:28:44 +0100
> <moonkid at posteo.org> wrote: 
> 
> > Ok, this means the "bug" is still fixed. Can you give me more
> > technical details about it or a bug-reference?
> 
> Claws was mistakenly defaulting to SSLv3 only on non-STARTTLS
> connections.
> 
> > btw: I am still using the current release depending on my
> > Ubuntu-repository. :) Only because of this bug there is no need to
> > upgrade to a out-of-repository-version.
> 
> Use our PPA:
> https://launchpad.net/~claws-mail/+archive/ubuntu/ppa

Except that the build failed for amd64 and i386, apparently waiting for
libetpan-dev.  I have not idea what that means.  

> > btw2: How can I found out when 3.10.1 was released? It will be the
> > "current" version for the next Ubuntu (unicorn).
> 
> See the 'Release History' section here:
> http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=blob_plain;f=README;hb=HEAD
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Nov  1 11:27:01 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2014 10:27:01 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3320] New: claws-mail.desktop missing
Message-ID: <bug-3320-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3320

            Bug ID: 3320
           Summary: claws-mail.desktop missing
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.11.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: chrisretusn at hotmail.com

Created attachment 1446
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Patch for Makefie.in

I use Slackware with KDE.

After successfully compiling from source and installing. Then tried to start
Claws Mail from my Quicklaunch icon it failed, missing "claws-mail.desktop".
The menu option was also missing. 

Perhaps this was intentional, perhaps not. Noted in change log "Remove
appdata." Is claws-mail.desktop part of "appdata"? I'm thinking it's not, of
course I could be wrong. The file is present in the root tree of the source. 

At any rate I created a patch for Makefile.am and Makefile.in correct this
possible oversight. Seems to work alright. My Quicklaunch icon works as
expected and the menu item is back. 

=== Patch for Makefile.am ====
--- Makefile.am    2014-10-28 02:56:56.000000000 +0800
+++ Makefile.am.new    2014-11-01 16:41:05.534958325 +0800
@@ -34,6 +34,11 @@
 pixmap128dir=$(datadir)/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps
 pixmap128_DATA=claws-mail-128x128.png

+# when changing the name or location of the .desktop file,
+# also update src/common/Makefile.am
+gnomapdir = $(datadir)/applications
+gnomap_DATA=claws-mail.desktop
+
 rename-icons:
     @cd $(DESTDIR)$(datadir)/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps && \
             mv claws-mail-64x64.png claws-mail.png
====

Patch for Makefile.in attached.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Nov  1 11:35:45 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2014 10:35:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3320] claws-mail.desktop missing
In-Reply-To: <bug-3320-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3320-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3320-595-pfguMIcYyo@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3320

--- Comment #1 from Christian Hesse <mail at earthworm.de> ---
This is already fixes in git.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Nov  1 12:00:56 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2014 11:00:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3320] claws-mail.desktop missing
In-Reply-To: <bug-3320-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3320-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3320-595-xs22TJjaV5@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3320

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

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From abrolag at users.sourceforge.net  Sun Nov  2 12:52:41 2014
From: abrolag at users.sourceforge.net (Abrolag)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 11:52:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] Bug? in V3.8.1
Message-ID: <20141102115241.48e1b2db@debian>

When setting up a processing rule I tired to set age greater than 1500 (approx
4 years) but when trying to add it this changed to 1000.

However, I can change the completed entry to what I want and replace it.

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http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sun Nov  2 13:30:06 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 13:30:06 +0100
Subject: [Users] X-Mailer information
Message-ID: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux>

Hi,

my mail's headers show something that doesn't satisfy me.

X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.0 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu)
X-Operating-System: Arch Linux

From were does Claws get the information about the used operating
system for the X-Mailer line?

"unknown-linux-gnu" doesn't look that nice.

[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ uname -o
GNU/Linux
[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ cat /etc/issue
Arch Linux \r (\l)

Is there a way to customize the X-Mailer by variables or
commands?

Regards,
Ralf


From mir at miras.org  Sun Nov  2 13:49:53 2014
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 13:49:53 +0100
Subject: [Users] X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141102134953.2b62d789@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 13:30:06 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> From were does Claws get the information about the used operating
> system for the X-Mailer line?
> 
> "unknown-linux-gnu" doesn't look that nice.
> 
I would guess uname -i or uname -p

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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sun Nov  2 14:08:20 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 14:08:20 +0100
Subject: [Users] X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141102134953.2b62d789@sleipner.datanom.net>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux>
 <20141102134953.2b62d789@sleipner.datanom.net>
Message-ID: <20141102140820.21990c79@archlinux>

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 13:49:53 +0100
Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 13:30:06 +0100
> Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > From were does Claws get the information about the used operating
> > system for the X-Mailer line?
> > 
> > "unknown-linux-gnu" doesn't look that nice.
> > 
> I would guess uname -i or uname -p

[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ uname --help
[snip]
  -p, --processor          print the processor type or "unknown"
  -i, --hardware-platform  print the hardware platform or "unknown"
  -o, --operating-system   print the operating system
[snip]
[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ uname -opi
unknown unknown GNU/Linux
[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ cat /etc/issue
Arch Linux \r (\l)

Unlikely, likely it's -o since the guess isn't "FreeBSD", but
"unknown-linux-gnu". The output of -o is correct, "GNU/Linux", the
distro and as the circumstances require the release too, is specified
in /etc/issue. Since Arch Linux is a real rolling release, no release
is mentioned.

Don't get me wrong, it's not a drama, that the X-Mailer information
doesn't look nice :D.


From cae at eslrahc.com  Sun Nov  2 14:15:57 2014
From: cae at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 08:15:57 -0500
Subject: [Users] X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141102081557.77792c09@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 13:30:06 +0100
Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> my mail's headers show something that doesn't satisfy me.
> 
> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.0 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu)
> X-Operating-System: Arch Linux
> 
> From were does Claws get the information about the used operating
> system for the X-Mailer line?
> 
> "unknown-linux-gnu" doesn't look that nice.
> 
> [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ uname -o
> GNU/Linux
> [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ cat /etc/issue
> Arch Linux \r (\l)
> 
> Is there a way to customize the X-Mailer by variables or
> commands?


They are build time variables.

See mine:
Claws Mail 3.11.1-6-gdf413f (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-mageia-linux-gnu)

This is achieved at build using|adding
 --build=x86_64-mageia-linux-gnu at ./configure


    Charles
 

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From andrej at kacian.sk  Sun Nov  2 14:19:50 2014
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 14:19:50 +0100
Subject: [Users] X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141102141950.3fbc0bf9@penny>

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 13:30:06 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> Is there a way to customize the X-Mailer by variables or
> commands?

You can override this header by defining a custom header with the same
name. Look in "Send" page of account preferences.

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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sun Nov  2 14:31:31 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 14:31:31 +0100
Subject: [Users] X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141102081557.77792c09@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux>
 <20141102081557.77792c09@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
Message-ID: <20141102143131.4ad44424@archlinux>

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 08:15:57 -0500
Charles A Edwards <cae at eslrahc.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 13:30:06 +0100
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> 
> > my mail's headers show something that doesn't satisfy me.
> > 
> > X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.0 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu)
> > X-Operating-System: Arch Linux
> > 
> > From were does Claws get the information about the used operating
> > system for the X-Mailer line?
> > 
> > "unknown-linux-gnu" doesn't look that nice.
> > 
> > [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ uname -o
> > GNU/Linux
> > [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ cat /etc/issue
> > Arch Linux \r (\l)
> > 
> > Is there a way to customize the X-Mailer by variables or
> > commands?
> 
> 
> They are build time variables.
> 
> See mine:
> Claws Mail 3.11.1-6-gdf413f (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-mageia-linux-gnu)
> 
> This is achieved at build using|adding
>  --build=x86_64-mageia-linux-gnu at ./configure

Thank you Charles!

For Claws or GTK2? 

Another questeion, is there a way to disable 72 char line break for
code? [1]

When using Evolution there are two plain text options, one does cause a
line break after 72 chars and the other option takes over the original
formatting of e.g. code, that has got longer lines than 72 chars.

Regards,
Ralf

[1]
[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ cat /var/abs/extra/claws-mail/PKGBUILD
# $Id: PKGBUILD 225146 2014-10-21 15:34:34Z andyrtr $
# Maintainer: Andreas Radke <andyrtr at archlinux.org>

pkgname=claws-mail
pkgver=3.11.0
pkgrel=2
pkgdesc="A GTK+ based e-mail client."
arch=('i686' 'x86_64')
license=('GPL3')
url="http://www.claws-mail.org"
depends=('gtk2' 'gnutls' 'startup-notification' 'enchant' 'gpgme'
'libetpan' 'compface' 'libsm' 'dbus-glib' 'hicolor-icon-theme'
'desktop-file-utils') makedepends=('spamassassin' 'bogofilter'
'valgrind' 'intltool' # dependencies for plugins
             'libsoup' 'libgdata' 'webkitgtk2' 'libnotify'
'libcanberra' 'poppler-glib' 'pygtk') #'libchamplain' needed for
geolocation plugin, disabled for now - most time it's not compatible
with current gnome releases optdepends=('python2:           needed for
some tools and python plugin' 'perl:              needed for some tools
and perl plugin' 'spamassassin:      adds support for spamfiltering'
'bogofilter:        adds support for spamfiltering' 'libnotify:
for notification plugin' 'libcanberra:       for notification plugin'
            'dbus:              for notification plugin'
            'libxml2:           for gtkhtml2_viewer and rssyl plugins'
            'curl:              for gtkhtml2_viewer, vcalendar, rssyl
and spamreport plugins' 'libarchive:        for archive plugin and
various other plugins' 'libytnef:          for tnef_parse plugin'
            'webkitgtk2:        for the fancy webkit html plugin'
            'libsoup:           for the fancy webkit html plugin'
	        'libgdata:          for gdata plugin'
	        'poppler-glib:      for pdf viewer plugin'
	        'ghostscript:       for pdf viewer plugin')    
replaces=('sylpheed-claws' 'claws-mail-extra-plugins')
conflicts=('claws-mail-extra-plugins')
provides=('claws')
install=claws-mail.install
source=(http://downloads.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/claws-mail/${pkgname}-${pkgver}.tar.xz{,.asc})
sha1sums=('1fc919e7d4357408a04131c4195878ea920de4f0'
          'SKIP')

build() {
  cd ${pkgname}-${pkgver}
 
  # fixes for python2
  export PYTHON="/usr/bin/python2"
  sed -i 's@^#!.*python.*@#!/usr/bin/python2@' tools/*.py
  sed -i 's:python -c:python2 -c:g' configure
  
  ./configure --prefix=/usr --disable-static \
    --enable-enchant \
    --enable-gnutls \
    --enable-ldap \
    --enable-crash-dialog \
    --enable-pgpmime-plugin \
    --enable-spamassassin-plugin \
    --enable-bogofilter-plugin \
    --enable-appdata
    #--help
  make
}

package() {
  cd ${pkgname}-${pkgver}
  make DESTDIR=${pkgdir} install

  # build and install extra tools
  cd tools
  make
   # all executables and .conf files ; only top directory
  find -maxdepth 1 -type f -and -perm /111 -or -name '*.conf' | while
  read i ; do install -D -m755 ${i} \
        ${pkgdir}/usr/lib/claws-mail/tools/${i}
  done
}
[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ cat /var/abs/extra/gtk2/PKGBUILD 
# $Id: PKGBUILD 224621 2014-10-16 12:05:01Z jgc $
# Maintainer: Jan de Groot <jgc at archlinux.org>

pkgbase=gtk2
pkgname=('gtk2' 'gtk-update-icon-cache')
pkgver=2.24.25
pkgrel=1
arch=('i686' 'x86_64')
url="http://www.gtk.org/"
makedepends=('atk' 'pango' 'libxcursor' 'libxinerama' 'libxrandr'
'libxi' 'libxcomposite' 'libxdamage' 'shared-mime-info' 'cairo'
'libcups' 'gdk-pixbuf2' 'gobject-introspection' 'python2')
license=('LGPL')
source=(http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/gtk+/2.24/gtk+-$pkgver.tar.xz
gtkrc xid-collision-debug.patch)
sha256sums=('38af1020cb8ff3d10dda2c8807f11e92af9d2fa4045de61c62eedb7fbc7ea5b3'
'b77a427df55a14182c10ad7e683b4d662df2846fcd38df2aa8918159d6be3ae2'
'd758bb93e59df15a4ea7732cf984d1c3c19dff67c94b957575efea132b8fe558')

prepare() {
    cd gtk+-$pkgver
    patch -Np1 -i ../xid-collision-debug.patch
}

build() {
    cd gtk+-$pkgver

    CXX=/bin/false ./configure --prefix=/usr \
        --sysconfdir=/etc \
        --localstatedir=/var \
        --with-xinput=yes

    # https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=655517
    sed -i -e 's/ -shared / -Wl,-O1,--as-needed\0/g' libtool

    make
}

package_gtk2() {
    pkgdesc="GTK+ is a multi-platform toolkit (v2)"
    install=gtk2.install
    depends=('atk' 'pango' 'libxcursor' 'libxinerama' 'libxrandr'
'libxi' 'libxcomposite' 'libxdamage' 'shared-mime-info' 'cairo'
'libcups' 'gtk-update-icon-cache') optdepends=('gnome-themes-standard:
Default widget theme' 'gnome-icon-theme: Default icon theme')
    replaces=('gtk2-docs')

    cd gtk+-$pkgver
    make DESTDIR="$pkgdir" install

    sed -i "s#env python#env python2#"
    $pkgdir/usr/bin/gtk-builder-convert

    install -Dm644 "$srcdir/gtkrc" "$pkgdir/usr/share/gtk-2.0/gtkrc"

    #split this out to use with gtk3 too
    rm $pkgdir/usr/bin/gtk-update-icon-cache
}
package_gtk-update-icon-cache() {
    pkgdesc="The GTK+ update icon cache tool"
    depends=('gdk-pixbuf2>=2.24.1-3' 'hicolor-icon-theme')
    install=gtk-update-icon-cache.install

    cd gtk+-$pkgver/gtk
    install -D -m755 gtk-update-icon-cache
    "$pkgdir/usr/bin/gtk-update-icon-cache" }


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sun Nov  2 14:43:00 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 14:43:00 +0100
Subject: [Users] X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141102141950.3fbc0bf9@penny>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux> <20141102141950.3fbc0bf9@penny>
Message-ID: <20141102144300.4f8bb543@archlinux>

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 14:19:50 +0100
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 13:30:06 +0100
> Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:
>   
> > Is there a way to customize the X-Mailer by variables or
> > commands?  
> 
> You can override this header by defining a custom header with the same
> name. Look in "Send" page of account preferences.  

If I would overwrite it (I already was aware about this option), is
there a variable or command I can use to get the current version of
Claws and GTK2? I don't want to edit it each time upstream releases a
new version, since my distro does follow upstream.

Btw. instead of building it myself, I would send a request to the
package maintainer assumed --build=architecture-mydistro-linux-gnu
should be the only solution.


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sun Nov  2 15:04:48 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 15:04:48 +0100
Subject: [Users] X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141102143131.4ad44424@archlinux>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux>
 <20141102081557.77792c09@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20141102143131.4ad44424@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141102150448.041edc5d@archlinux>

PS:

> > This is achieved at build using|adding
> >  --build=x86_64-mageia-linux-gnu at ./configure  
> 
> Thank you Charles!

https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/42659

:)


From cae at eslrahc.com  Sun Nov  2 15:32:14 2014
From: cae at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 09:32:14 -0500
Subject: [Users] X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141102143131.4ad44424@archlinux>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux>
 <20141102081557.77792c09@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20141102143131.4ad44424@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141102093214.4a3f8e5b@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 14:31:31 +0100
Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> > On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 13:30:06 +0100
> > Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >   
> > > my mail's headers show something that doesn't satisfy me.
> > > 
> > > X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.0 (GTK+ 2.24.25;
> > > x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-Operating-System: Arch Linux
> > > 
> > > From were does Claws get the information about the used operating
> > > system for the X-Mailer line?
> > > 
> > > "unknown-linux-gnu" doesn't look that nice.
> > > 
> > > [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ uname -o
> > > GNU/Linux
> > > [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ cat /etc/issue
> > > Arch Linux \r (\l)
> > > 
> > > Is there a way to customize the X-Mailer by variables or
> > > commands?  
> > 
> > 
> > They are build time variables.
> > 
> > See mine:
> > Claws Mail 3.11.1-6-gdf413f (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-mageia-linux-gnu)
> > 
> > This is achieved at build using|adding
> >  --build=x86_64-mageia-linux-gnu at ./configure  
> 
> Thank you Charles!
> 
> For Claws or GTK2? 

Add it to the claws mail build.

> Another questeion, is there a way to disable 72 char line break for
> code? [1]

This setting can be changed|modified using 
Configuration/Compose/Wrapping

72 is the standard and preferred length.
There as some mail clients, mostly non-gui clients, which have issues
with line lengths in excess of 72.


### Please do not CC me, just send to the list and I'll see it ###


    Charles

-- 
meetings, n.:
	A place where minutes are kept and hours are lost.
----------------------
Mageia release 5 (Cauldron) for x86_64$
On SuperSize....http://www.eslrahc.com
Registered Linux user #182463
3.17.2-server-1.mga5 x86_64
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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sun Nov  2 15:49:50 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 15:49:50 +0100
Subject: [Users] OT:   X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141102093214.4a3f8e5b@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux>
 <20141102081557.77792c09@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20141102143131.4ad44424@archlinux>
 <20141102093214.4a3f8e5b@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
Message-ID: <20141102154950.2c243c3b@archlinux>

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 09:32:14 -0500
Charles A Edwards <cae at eslrahc.com> wrote:
> This setting can be changed|modified using 
> Configuration/Compose/Wrapping

IOW I can not switch in a mail between the wanted 72 chars line break
and no line break for code?!

> ### Please do not CC me, just send to the list and I'll see it ###

The reply to mailing list only and if I want reply to original sender
only options are not that good for the Claws mailer.

If I use reply I do not want to send to the list, but instead I want to
send a privat mail. If I chose to reply to all, I want to send to the
mailing list only. Claws can't handle this. When the preferences are
edited to send to the mailing list, when I push reply, then there's no
option to send a private mail. So I set it vice versa, now I need to
reply to all.

I'm searching for a MUA that should replace Evolution. Until now Claws
seems to be the MUA I will use, but indeed, I did reply to you and
Cc'ed to the mailing list, but that's not my fault, it's an issue
caused by Claws. Evolution is able to provide what I need. If I want I
reply to a mailing list only and if I want I can reply to the OP of a
mail and I also can chose to reply to "all".

Don't blame me for a lack of Claws, or assumed I'm mistaken, please
tell me how I can set up Claws to behave correctly.

Regards,
Ralf


From cae at eslrahc.com  Sun Nov  2 16:58:21 2014
From: cae at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 10:58:21 -0500
Subject: [Users] OT:   X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141102154950.2c243c3b@archlinux>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux>
 <20141102081557.77792c09@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20141102143131.4ad44424@archlinux>
 <20141102093214.4a3f8e5b@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20141102154950.2c243c3b@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141102105821.3a9960a7@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 15:49:50 +0100
Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> The reply to mailing list only and if I want reply to original sender
> only options are not that good for the Claws mailer.
> 
> If I use reply I do not want to send to the list, but instead I want
> to send a privat mail. If I chose to reply to all, I want to send to
> the mailing list only. Claws can't handle this. When the preferences
> are edited to send to the mailing list, when I push reply, then
> there's no option to send a private mail. So I set it vice versa, now
> I need to reply to all.
> 
> I'm searching for a MUA that should replace Evolution. Until now Claws
> seems to be the MUA I will use, but indeed, I did reply to you and
> Cc'ed to the mailing list, but that's not my fault, it's an issue
> caused by Claws. Evolution is able to provide what I need. If I want I
> reply to a mailing list only and if I want I can reply to the OP of a
> mail and I also can chose to reply to "all".
> 
> Don't blame me for a lack of Claws, or assumed I'm mistaken, please
> tell me how I can set up Claws to behave correctly.

I did not send my reply to your question to You, I replied to the List.
I expect and want all other replys to Also be done through the list
Not sent to me personally.
This is the expected behavior for all properly set-up mailing list.

In Claws under Configuration/Writing  check the box
"Reply button invokes mailing list reply"

Thereafter any reply you send to a message that contains a "List-Id"
header, as the Claws list does, will be sent to the list.

By not doing so you can and will "piss-off" the list members who are
trying to assist you.


    Charles

-- 
Love is in the offing.  Be affectionate to one who adores you.
----------------------
Mageia release 5 (Cauldron) for x86_64$
On SuperSize....http://www.eslrahc.com
Registered Linux user #182463
3.17.2-server-1.mga5 x86_64
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From mailinglists at gusnan.se  Sun Nov  2 17:02:37 2014
From: mailinglists at gusnan.se (Andreas =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=F6nnquist?=)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 17:02:37 +0100
Subject: [Users] OT:   X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141102154950.2c243c3b@archlinux>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux>
 <20141102081557.77792c09@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20141102143131.4ad44424@archlinux>
 <20141102093214.4a3f8e5b@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20141102154950.2c243c3b@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141102170237.4d424e7e@debian-workstation.lan>

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 15:49:50 +0100,
Ralf Mardorf<info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 09:32:14 -0500
>Charles A Edwards <cae at eslrahc.com> wrote:
>> ### Please do not CC me, just send to the list and I'll see it ###
>
>The reply to mailing list only and if I want reply to original sender
>only options are not that good for the Claws mailer.
>
>If I use reply I do not want to send to the list, but instead I want to
>send a privat mail. If I chose to reply to all, I want to send to the
>mailing list only. Claws can't handle this. When the preferences are
>edited to send to the mailing list, when I push reply, then there's no
>option to send a private mail. So I set it vice versa, now I need to
>reply to all.
>
>I'm searching for a MUA that should replace Evolution. Until now Claws
>seems to be the MUA I will use, but indeed, I did reply to you and
>Cc'ed to the mailing list, but that's not my fault, it's an issue
>caused by Claws. Evolution is able to provide what I need. If I want I
>reply to a mailing list only and if I want I can reply to the OP of a
>mail and I also can chose to reply to "all".
>

Please, Claws Mail is one of the mail clients that does things right!

In Preferences -> Writing there is "Reply button invokes mailing list
reply" - if that is checked, if you press "Reply" to a mailinglist
message, then as expected the mailinglist only will get the reply, but
you still can reply to only the sender of the mail using the "Reply to
sender" button.

-- Andreas Rönnquist
mailinglists at gusnan.se
gusnan at gusnan.se


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Sun Nov  2 17:12:46 2014
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 17:12:46 +0100
Subject: [Users] OT:   X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141102154950.2c243c3b@archlinux>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux>
 <20141102081557.77792c09@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20141102143131.4ad44424@archlinux>
 <20141102093214.4a3f8e5b@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20141102154950.2c243c3b@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141102171246.763ae7e4@mirrors.kernel.org>

Ralf,

In the mail header, you can right-click any address and choose 'replay to this address'. From the devlopers point of view, this would be the most safe way to offer. It's not easy for developers to know what exactly a user wants and there are always tons of options.

> If I use reply I do not want to send to the list, but instead I want to
> send a privat mail. If I chose to reply to all, I want to send to the
> mailing list only.

As i know it, this is not standard as for the meaning of those terms. But you can partly configure this by creating a separate folder for claws mail list, and configure the folder settings (right click 'properties').

Alternatively, try the main Preferences -> toolbars -> main view where you can chose the action performed for a specific toolbar button. You might be able to change the 'reply to all' behavior that way.

hth mi


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Sun Nov  2 17:16:39 2014
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 17:16:39 +0100
Subject: [Users] OT:   X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141102170237.4d424e7e@debian-workstation.lan>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux>
 <20141102081557.77792c09@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20141102143131.4ad44424@archlinux>
 <20141102093214.4a3f8e5b@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20141102154950.2c243c3b@archlinux>
 <20141102170237.4d424e7e@debian-workstation.lan>
Message-ID: <20141102171639.2a6b62b2@mirrors.kernel.org>

Andreas,

> Claws Mail is one of the mail clients that does things right!

Indeed, and often there are several possibilities. I wasn't even aware of this easy-to-use setting :) thx
 


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sun Nov  2 17:36:53 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 17:36:53 +0100
Subject: [Users] OT:   X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141102105821.3a9960a7@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux>
 <20141102081557.77792c09@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20141102143131.4ad44424@archlinux>
 <20141102093214.4a3f8e5b@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20141102154950.2c243c3b@archlinux>
 <20141102105821.3a9960a7@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
Message-ID: <20141102173653.57216c30@archlinux>

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 10:58:21 -0500
Charles A Edwards <cae at eslrahc.com> wrote:
> In Claws under Configuration/Writing  check the box
> "Reply button invokes mailing list reply"

Hi Charles,

that was the setting I used before, but when I wanted to reply
privately, Claws wanted to send to the mailing list. This is a broken
behaviour by Claws. Evolution offers what's needed. Now I edited the
header manually. Again, please consider not to blame me for missing
functionality of Claws. I'm subscribed to several mailing lists were is
no tolerance for people who cause to send duplicated messages, endless
lines, HTML, broken threads. It wasn't my fault, Claws is unable to
provide what users need regarding to this issue. I still consider to
switch from Evolution to Claws for some reasons, but handling mailing
list replies and quoting code are week points of Claws, Evolution does
handle this much better. IMO the correct behaviour is to provide
options to replay to the list only, to reply to an OP only and to
reply to all. Claws seems not to provide this.

Regards,
Ralf


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sun Nov  2 17:38:47 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 17:38:47 +0100
Subject: [Users] OT:   X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141102170237.4d424e7e@debian-workstation.lan>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux>
 <20141102081557.77792c09@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20141102143131.4ad44424@archlinux>
 <20141102093214.4a3f8e5b@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20141102154950.2c243c3b@archlinux>
 <20141102170237.4d424e7e@debian-workstation.lan>
Message-ID: <20141102173847.480842fb@archlinux>

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 17:02:37 +0100
Andreas Rönnquist <mailinglists at gusnan.se> wrote:
> Please, Claws Mail is one of the mail clients that does things right!
> 
> In Preferences -> Writing there is "Reply button invokes mailing list
> reply" - if that is checked, if you press "Reply" to a mailinglist
> message, then as expected the mailinglist only will get the reply, but
> you still can reply to only the sender of the mail using the "Reply to
> sender" button.

And what button do I push if I want to send a mail off-list to an OP?


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sun Nov  2 17:42:24 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 17:42:24 +0100
Subject: [Users] OT:   X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141102171246.763ae7e4@mirrors.kernel.org>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux>
 <20141102081557.77792c09@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20141102143131.4ad44424@archlinux>
 <20141102093214.4a3f8e5b@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20141102154950.2c243c3b@archlinux>
 <20141102171246.763ae7e4@mirrors.kernel.org>
Message-ID: <20141102174224.725e9d4e@archlinux>

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 17:12:46 +0100
Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote:
> In the mail header, you can right-click any address and choose
> 'replay to this address'. From the devlopers point of view, this
> would be the most safe way to offer. It's not easy for developers to
> know what exactly a user wants and there are always tons of options.

Thank you Michael :)

fair play :). I'll check it out next time :). So you understand my
point, but I also understand your point.

Regards,
Ralf


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sun Nov  2 17:56:18 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 17:56:18 +0100
Subject: [Users] OT:   X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141102173847.480842fb@archlinux>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux>
 <20141102081557.77792c09@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20141102143131.4ad44424@archlinux>
 <20141102093214.4a3f8e5b@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20141102154950.2c243c3b@archlinux>
 <20141102170237.4d424e7e@debian-workstation.lan>
 <20141102173847.480842fb@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141102175618.0ee14763@archlinux>

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 17:38:47 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 17:02:37 +0100
> Andreas Rönnquist <mailinglists at gusnan.se> wrote:
> > Please, Claws Mail is one of the mail clients that does things
> > right!
> > 
> > In Preferences -> Writing there is "Reply button invokes mailing
> > list reply" - if that is checked, if you press "Reply" to a
> > mailinglist message, then as expected the mailinglist only will get
> > the reply, but you still can reply to only the sender of the mail
> > using the "Reply to sender" button.
> 
> And what button do I push if I want to send a mail off-list to an OP?

My apologies, indeed, there's such a button, but I didn't notice it. I
need to get used of Claws ;).


From r.brusa at gmx.ch  Sun Nov  2 22:40:06 2014
From: r.brusa at gmx.ch (Roman Brusa)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 22:40:06 +0100
Subject: [Users] Completely deleting emails
In-Reply-To: <20141018103445.0f0cebfa@mike>
References: <20141017160727.22f9c38c@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20141017164912.52748741@thewildbeast>
 <20141018092754.5e13bf21@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20141018103445.0f0cebfa@mike>
Message-ID: <20141102224006.6c864d26@rbits.ch>

Hi, on Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:34:45 +0200, Colin wrote:

>On 18 October 2014 at 09h27, Cliff Laine wrote:
>
>> > There's an option on the Other/Miscellaneous, 'use secure file
>> > deletion if possible'. This will use shred if installed.
>> 
>> Thanks Paul -- that's useful to know
>
>It will even use shred on every file deletion, be it emails, temporary
>configuration files or temporary MIME parts, everything. 
>The performance hit is less and less with SSDs than it was at the time
>of the implementation :)

Speaking of performance: Just coming from a thread in a german mailing
list, where several users had severe performance troubles with search
(for a phrase in the message body). They counted up to 15 min for a
search in a directory of 10'000 mails, while this took around 1 min
here. They did a lot of research and testing and finally found the above
mentionned option to be the cause, what I confirm: Using the option
increases the time required drastically.

Maybe there should be a warning that a particualar type of searches gets
(almost) unusable by using this option...?

Roman
-- 
Ihre Meinung ist zwar widerlich, aber ich würde mich totschlagen
lassen, dass Sie sie sagen dürfen. - Voltaire
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From zukeprime at gmail.com  Mon Nov  3 02:55:29 2014
From: zukeprime at gmail.com (ZP)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 18:55:29 -0700
Subject: [Users] claws-mail Ubuntu PPA -- system not updating
Message-ID: <20141102185529.464a09ce@EQ-X550LD>

Hey claws-mail team,

Small issue...probably on my end, but I'm at a loss here.

I've got the claws-mail ppa enabled for Ubuntu Trusty.  I noticed the
launchpad page now has 3.11.1-1ubuntu1ppa1~trusty2 uploaded and ready
to go.  For some reason, after an upgrade/update, I'm still stuck on
3.10.1.

I've even removed the ppa and re-added it to see if something was
amiss.

On another system, I've installed Utopic and was able to update to
the latest version (3.11.1).  

My details:
System: Linux EQ-X550LD 3.13.0-39-generic #66-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 28
13:30:27 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

claws-mail version installed:
Package: claws-mail
Priority: optional
Section: mail
Installed-Size: 3761
Maintainer: Ricardo Mones <mones at debian.org>
Architecture: amd64
Version: 3.10.1-1ubuntu1ppa1~trusty1

I KNOW I must be missing something here. But my linux-foo isn't strong
enough to crack this nut.  Any ideas?

Thanks in advance...and thanks for the great product.
ZP


From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au  Mon Nov  3 08:44:20 2014
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 18:44:20 +1100
Subject: [Users] claws-mail Ubuntu PPA -- system not updating
In-Reply-To: <20141102185529.464a09ce@EQ-X550LD>
References: <20141102185529.464a09ce@EQ-X550LD>
Message-ID: <20141103184420.0b03495d@PPlive>

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 18:55:29 -0700
ZP <zukeprime at gmail.com> wrote:
[snip]
> I've even removed the ppa and re-added it to see if something was
> amiss.
[snip]

I think that the gurus are facing a deadline for the Debian release and
are unlikely to look at anything else for a few days.  

Looking at <https://launchpad.net/~claws-mail/+archive/ubuntu/ppa> my
guess is that, "Failed to build: amd64 i386" has something to do with
it.  

Just wait - unless you are a guru in training.  

-- 
testing
bP
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From ricardo at mones.org  Mon Nov  3 10:55:21 2014
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 10:55:21 +0100
Subject: [Users] claws-mail Ubuntu PPA -- system not updating
In-Reply-To: <20141102185529.464a09ce@EQ-X550LD>
References: <20141102185529.464a09ce@EQ-X550LD>
Message-ID: <20141103095521.GH13794@trasgu>

On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 06:55:29PM -0700, ZP wrote:
> Hey claws-mail team,
> 
> I've got the claws-mail ppa enabled for Ubuntu Trusty.  I noticed the
> launchpad page now has 3.11.1-1ubuntu1ppa1~trusty2 uploaded and ready
> to go.  For some reason, after an upgrade/update, I'm still stuck on
> 3.10.1.
[…]
> I KNOW I must be missing something here. But my linux-foo isn't strong
> enough to crack this nut.  Any ideas?

On the PPA page⁰ you can click on the architecture where it failed, e.g.
amd64¹, and will tell you the reason:

Missing build dependencies: libetpan-dev (>= 1.5)

Fact is trusty only has libetpan 1.0², so either package dependencies are
relaxed (supposing code still works with 1.0, otherwise some patch may be
required) or the latest libetpan is added to the PPA build environment.

HTH,

⁰ https://launchpad.net/~claws-mail/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
¹ https://launchpad.net/~claws-mail/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/6521216
² http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/trusty/libetpan
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  The three principal virtues of a programmer are Laziness, 
  Impatience, and Hubris.                                    man perl

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From bugreporter at abwesend.de  Mon Nov  3 11:02:25 2014
From: bugreporter at abwesend.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 11:02:25 +0100
Subject: [Users] X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141102144300.4f8bb543@archlinux>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux> <20141102141950.3fbc0bf9@penny>
 <20141102144300.4f8bb543@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141103110225.5b7c9d25@gmx.net>

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 14:43:00 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> If I would overwrite it (I already was aware about this option), is
> there a variable or command I can use to get the current version of
> Claws and GTK2? I don't want to edit it each time upstream releases a
> new version, since my distro does follow upstream.

With a bit of fantasy, you could create a shell script that determines
the version by looking at library file names or SONAMEs. Plus, you could
retrieve the versions like this:

  $ pkg-config --modversion gtk+-2.0
  2.24.25
  $ claws-mail --version
  Claws Mail version 3.10.1


From colin at colino.net  Mon Nov  3 11:32:01 2014
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 11:32:01 +0100
Subject: [Users] claws-mail Ubuntu PPA -- system not updating
In-Reply-To: <20141103095521.GH13794@trasgu>
References: <20141102185529.464a09ce@EQ-X550LD> <20141103095521.GH13794@trasgu>
Message-ID: <20141103113201.055d077e@colin.i-run.lau>

On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 10:55:21 +0100, Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
wrote:

> Fact is trusty only has libetpan 1.0², so either package dependencies
> are relaxed (supposing code still works with 1.0, otherwise some
> patch may be required) or the latest libetpan is added to the PPA
> build environment.

I'm going to fix this soon, sorry about that.

-- 
Colin
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From zukeprime at gmail.com  Mon Nov  3 14:19:27 2014
From: zukeprime at gmail.com (ZP)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 06:19:27 -0700
Subject: [Users] claws-mail Ubuntu PPA -- system not updating
In-Reply-To: <20141103113201.055d077e@colin.i-run.lau>
References: <20141102185529.464a09ce@EQ-X550LD> <20141103095521.GH13794@trasgu>
 <20141103113201.055d077e@colin.i-run.lau>
Message-ID: <20141103061927.0447524f@HQ-LT-01>

On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 11:32:01 +0100
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 10:55:21 +0100, Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
>wrote:
>
>> Fact is trusty only has libetpan 1.0², so either package dependencies
>> are relaxed (supposing code still works with 1.0, otherwise some
>> patch may be required) or the latest libetpan is added to the PPA
>> build environment.
>
>I'm going to fix this soon, sorry about that.
>

Thanks guys. No problem waiting on this end.


From zukeprime at gmail.com  Mon Nov  3 14:24:09 2014
From: zukeprime at gmail.com (ZP)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 06:24:09 -0700
Subject: [Users] claws-mail Ubuntu PPA -- system not updating
In-Reply-To: <20141103184420.0b03495d@PPlive>
References: <20141102185529.464a09ce@EQ-X550LD>
 <20141103184420.0b03495d@PPlive>
Message-ID: <20141103062409.7700fdc2@HQ-LT-01>

On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 18:44:20 +1100
blind Pete <peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au> wrote:

>Just wait - unless you are a guru in training.  

Actually, I noticed that earlier when I was trying to determine what
was happening.  Since the upgraded packages were there, my (wrong)
guess was that those were 'old' messages.  --> low linux-foo.  :D


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Mon Nov  3 16:10:00 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 16:10:00 +0100
Subject: [Users] X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141103110225.5b7c9d25@gmx.net>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux> <20141102141950.3fbc0bf9@penny>
 <20141102144300.4f8bb543@archlinux>
 <20141103110225.5b7c9d25@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <20141103161000.52b42d97@archlinux>

On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 11:02:25 +0100
Michael Schwendt <bugreporter at abwesend.de> wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 14:43:00 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> 
> > If I would overwrite it (I already was aware about this option), is
> > there a variable or command I can use to get the current version of
> > Claws and GTK2? I don't want to edit it each time upstream releases
> > a new version, since my distro does follow upstream.
> 
> With a bit of fantasy, you could create a shell script that determines
> the version by looking at library file names or SONAMEs. Plus, you
> could retrieve the versions like this:
> 
>   $ pkg-config --modversion gtk+-2.0
>   2.24.25
>   $ claws-mail --version
>   Claws Mail version 3.10.1

Sure, I also could run

$ pacman -Q gtk2 claws-mail
gtk2 2.24.25-1
claws-mail 3.11.0-2

;)

but were can I set the X-Mailer info used by Claws to use a script ;).

I guess the correct answer already was given, it's a build option and
JFTR the maintainer of the distro I'm using isn't interested in
promotion for this distro. Assumed it would be important, then I could
compile myself, but since it's not important, just a minor cosmetic
issue, I'll live with that "cosmetic issue".

;)

Regards,
Ralf


From colin at colino.net  Mon Nov  3 16:51:05 2014
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 16:51:05 +0100
Subject: [Users] claws-mail Ubuntu PPA -- system not updating
In-Reply-To: <20141103061927.0447524f@HQ-LT-01>
References: <20141102185529.464a09ce@EQ-X550LD> <20141103095521.GH13794@trasgu>
 <20141103113201.055d077e@colin.i-run.lau>
 <20141103061927.0447524f@HQ-LT-01>
Message-ID: <20141103165105.154bdb3d@colin.i-run.lau>

On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 06:19:27 -0700, ZP <zukeprime at gmail.com> wrote:

> >> Fact is trusty only has libetpan 1.0², so either package
> >> dependencies are relaxed (supposing code still works with 1.0,
> >> otherwise some patch may be required) or the latest libetpan is
> >> added to the PPA build environment.  
> >
> >I'm going to fix this soon, sorry about that.
> >  
> 
> Thanks guys. No problem waiting on this end.

The Claws Mail packages should now be available for updating on Trusty
and Precise.

HTH,
-- 
Colin
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From bugreporter at abwesend.de  Mon Nov  3 17:31:35 2014
From: bugreporter at abwesend.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 17:31:35 +0100
Subject: [Users] X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141103161000.52b42d97@archlinux>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux> <20141102141950.3fbc0bf9@penny>
 <20141102144300.4f8bb543@archlinux>
 <20141103110225.5b7c9d25@gmx.net>
 <20141103161000.52b42d97@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141103173135.273e668e@gmx.net>

On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 16:10:00 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> > On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 14:43:00 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > 
> > > If I would overwrite it (I already was aware about this option), is
> > > there a variable or command I can use to get the current version of
> > > Claws and GTK2? I don't want to edit it each time upstream releases
> > > a new version, since my distro does follow upstream.
> > 
> > With a bit of fantasy, you could create a shell script that determines
> > the version by looking at library file names or SONAMEs. Plus, you
> > could retrieve the versions like this:
> > 
> >   $ pkg-config --modversion gtk+-2.0
> >   2.24.25
> >   $ claws-mail --version
> >   Claws Mail version 3.10.1
> 
> Sure, I also could run
> 
> $ pacman -Q gtk2 claws-mail
> gtk2 2.24.25-1
> claws-mail 3.11.0-2
> 
> ;)
> 
> but were can I set the X-Mailer info used by Claws to use a script ;).

That is not the question you've asked before (see quota above).

The manual page mentions a ~/.claws-mail/customheaderrc file, and in the
source code you could learn how that file is used. Quickstart:

$ grep customheaderrc * -R
doc/man/claws-mail.1:$HOME/.claws\-mail/customheaderrc
src/common/defs.h:#define CUSTOM_HEADER_RC	"customheaderrc"
tools/README:      		echo "0:" `cat filename.xface` > ~/.claws-mail/customheaderrc
$ grep CUSTOM_HEADER_RC * -R
src/prefs_customheader.c:			     CUSTOM_HEADER_RC, NULL);
src/prefs_customheader.c:			     CUSTOM_HEADER_RC, NULL);
src/common/defs.h:#define CUSTOM_HEADER_RC	"customheaderrc"

I haven't used that file before, so perhaps the theory is far off reality.

> I guess the correct answer already was given, it's a build option and
> JFTR the maintainer of the distro I'm using isn't interested in
> promotion for this distro. Assumed it would be important, then I could
> compile myself, but since it's not important, just a minor cosmetic
> issue, I'll live with that "cosmetic issue".
> 
> ;)

The versions don't seem to be hardcoded, though, so as a brute-force hack,
it would even be possible to "sed -i" the executable and replace the build
target string (provided that you don't mess up its length):

$ strings /usr/bin/claws-mail |grep GTK\+
X-Mailer: %s (GTK+ %d.%d.%d; %s)
X-Newsreader: %s (GTK+ %d.%d.%d; %s)
runtime GTK+ %d.%d.%d / GLib %d.%d.%d
buildtime GTK+ %d.%d.%d / GLib %d.%d.%d
GTK+ %d.%d.%d / GLib %d.%d.%d
$ strings /usr/bin/claws-mail |grep redhat
x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu


From itz at buug.org  Mon Nov  3 23:30:14 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 14:30:14 -0800
Subject: [Users] X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141103173135.273e668e@gmx.net>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux> <20141102141950.3fbc0bf9@penny>
 <20141102144300.4f8bb543@archlinux>
 <20141103110225.5b7c9d25@gmx.net>
 <20141103161000.52b42d97@archlinux>
 <20141103173135.273e668e@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <20141103143014.2358657c.itz@buug.org>

On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 17:31:35 +0100,
Michael Schwendt <bugreporter at abwesend.de> wrote:

Ralf> but were can I set the X-Mailer info used by Claws to use a script ;).

Michael>  That is not the question you've asked before (see quota
Michael> above).

Michael> The manual page mentions a ~/.claws-mail/customheaderrc file,
Michael> and in the source code you could learn how that file is
Michael> used. Quickstart:

I think the OP's real wish is to generate the header at runtime.  At
least he wrote something like "I don't want to change the configuration
every time I upgrade my distribution".

That seems to be a feature request more than anything else.

But, a workaround is possible even in that case: he could write a
wrapper script to dump the current information into customheaderrc (or
whatever other place is appropriate) and then run claws.

-- 
Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages.
Local Variables:
mode:claws-external
End:


From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au  Tue Nov  4 00:19:19 2014
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 10:19:19 +1100
Subject: [Users] claws-mail Ubuntu PPA -- system not updating
In-Reply-To: <20141103113201.055d077e@colin.i-run.lau>
References: <20141102185529.464a09ce@EQ-X550LD> <20141103095521.GH13794@trasgu>
 <20141103113201.055d077e@colin.i-run.lau>
Message-ID: <20141104101919.2ae7828b@PPlive>

On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 11:32:01 +0100
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 10:55:21 +0100, Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > Fact is trusty only has libetpan 1.0², so either package
> > dependencies are relaxed (supposing code still works with 1.0,
> > otherwise some patch may be required) or the latest libetpan is
> > added to the PPA build environment.
> 
> I'm going to fix this soon, sorry about that.

I am delighted that you are working on it at all.  

"sudo apt-get install pinentry-gtk2" warns that pinentry-gtk2 can not
be authenticated.  How do you get it authenticated?  Currently I'm using
12.04 LTS.  Upgrading /real soon now/.  


-- 
testing
bP
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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Tue Nov  4 00:51:26 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 00:51:26 +0100
Subject: [Users] X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141102081557.77792c09@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux>
 <20141102081557.77792c09@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
Message-ID: <20141104005126.7eb2f54d@archlinux>

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 08:15:57 -0500
Charles A Edwards <cae at eslrahc.com> wrote:
> This is achieved at build using|adding
>  --build=x86_64-mageia-linux-gnu at ./configure

When doing this I get an error message. I tried it two times:

[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ yaourt -S claws-mail-git
[snip]
checking build system type... Invalid configuration `x86_64-archlinux':
system `archlinux' not recognized
configure: error: /bin/sh config/config.sub x86_64-archlinux failed
[snip]
[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$
cat /tmp/yaourt-tmp-rocketmouse/aur-claws-mail-git/PKGBUILD
[snip]
./configure --disable-maintainer-mode \
		--prefix=/usr --disable-static \
		--disable-jpilot \
		--enable-enchant \
		--enable-gnutls \
		--enable-ldap \
		--enable-crash-dialog \
		--enable-pgpmime-plugin \
		--enable-spamassassin-plugin \
		--enable-bogofilter-plugin \
                --build=x86_64-archlinux
[snip]
[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ yaourt -S claws-mail-git
[snip]
checking build system type... Invalid configuration `x86_64-archlinux':
system `archlinux' not recognized configure: error: /bin/sh
config/config.sub x86_64-archlinux failed
[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$
cat /tmp/yaourt-tmp-rocketmouse/aur-claws-mail-git/PKGBUILD
[snip]
./configure --build=x86_64-archlinux \ 
                --disable-maintainer-mode \
		--prefix=/usr --disable-static \
		--disable-jpilot \
		--enable-enchant \
		--enable-gnutls \
		--enable-ldap \
		--enable-crash-dialog \
		--enable-pgpmime-plugin \
		--enable-spamassassin-plugin \
		--enable-bogofilter-plugin \
[snip]


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Tue Nov  4 01:27:01 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 01:27:01 +0100
Subject: [Users] X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141104005126.7eb2f54d@archlinux>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux>
 <20141102081557.77792c09@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20141104005126.7eb2f54d@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141104012701.484076c3@archlinux>

On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 00:51:26 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 08:15:57 -0500
> Charles A Edwards <cae at eslrahc.com> wrote:
> > This is achieved at build using|adding
> >  --build=x86_64-mageia-linux-gnu at ./configure
> 
> When doing this I get an error message. I tried it two times: [snip]

JFTR building from git works, when not adding the --build option.

The current header's X-Mailer information is
"X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1-11-g723df44 (GTK+ 2.24.25;
x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu)"

The information from Claws "Help > About" currently is
"System Information
GTK+ 2.24.25 / GLib 2.42.0
Locale: en_US.utf8 (charset: UTF-8)
Operating System: Linux 3.14.23-rt20-1-rt (x86_64)"

As mentioned by some of you, I'll try a script to change it at runtime
next.


From cae at eslrahc.com  Tue Nov  4 01:38:52 2014
From: cae at eslrahc.com (Charles A Edwards)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 19:38:52 -0500
Subject: [Users] X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141104005126.7eb2f54d@archlinux>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux>
 <20141102081557.77792c09@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20141104005126.7eb2f54d@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141103193852.0b6d4b70@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>

On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 00:51:26 +0100
Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> > This is achieved at build using|adding
> >  --build=x86_64-mageia-linux-gnu at ./configure  
> 
> When doing this I get an error message. I tried it two times:
> 
> [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ yaourt -S claws-mail-git
> [snip]
> checking build system type... Invalid configuration
> `x86_64-archlinux': system `archlinux' not recognized

Either of this will work.
--build=x86_64-arch-linux-gnu
or
--build=x86_64-archlinux-linux-gnu

The format for linux systems is: 
--build <arch>-<name>-linux-gnu
'arch' is either ix86 ox x86_64
'name' can be anything you want it to be.


    Charles

-- 
Okay ... I'm going home to write the "I HATE RUBIK's CUBE HANDBOOK FOR
DEAD CAT LOVERS" ...
----------------------
Mageia release 5 (Cauldron) for x86_64$
On SuperSize....http://www.eslrahc.com
Registered Linux user #182463
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From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au  Tue Nov  4 02:07:28 2014
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 12:07:28 +1100
Subject: [Users] claws-mail Ubuntu PPA -- system not updating
In-Reply-To: <20141103165105.154bdb3d@colin.i-run.lau>
References: <20141102185529.464a09ce@EQ-X550LD> <20141103095521.GH13794@trasgu>
 <20141103113201.055d077e@colin.i-run.lau>
 <20141103061927.0447524f@HQ-LT-01>
 <20141103165105.154bdb3d@colin.i-run.lau>
Message-ID: <20141104120728.5fc94473@PPlive>

On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 16:51:05 +0100
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 06:19:27 -0700, ZP <zukeprime at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > >> Fact is trusty only has libetpan 1.0², so either package
> > >> dependencies are relaxed (supposing code still works with 1.0,
> > >> otherwise some patch may be required) or the latest libetpan is
> > >> added to the PPA build environment.  
> > >
> > >I'm going to fix this soon, sorry about that.
> > >  
> > 
> > Thanks guys. No problem waiting on this end.
> 
> The Claws Mail packages should now be available for updating on Trusty
> and Precise.
> 
> HTH,

Upgraded.  

Thank you.  

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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Tue Nov  4 07:08:28 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 07:08:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] X-Mailer information
In-Reply-To: <20141103193852.0b6d4b70@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
References: <20141102133006.42c9e8bc@archlinux>
 <20141102081557.77792c09@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
 <20141104005126.7eb2f54d@archlinux>
 <20141103193852.0b6d4b70@SuperSize.eslrahc.com>
Message-ID: <20141104070828.686fec00@archlinux>

On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 19:38:52 -0500
Charles A Edwards <cae at eslrahc.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 00:51:26 +0100
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> 
> > > This is achieved at build using|adding
> > >  --build=x86_64-mageia-linux-gnu at ./configure  
> > 
> > When doing this I get an error message. I tried it two times:
> > 
> > [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ yaourt -S claws-mail-git
> > [snip]
> > checking build system type... Invalid configuration
> > `x86_64-archlinux': system `archlinux' not recognized
> 
> Either of this will work.
> --build=x86_64-arch-linux-gnu
> or
> --build=x86_64-archlinux-linux-gnu
> 
> The format for linux systems is: 
> --build <arch>-<name>-linux-gnu
> 'arch' is either ix86 ox x86_64
> 'name' can be anything you want it to be.

Thank you Charles,

--build=$(uname -m)-arch-linux-gnu

does work.

I added a feature request to the Arch user repository.
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/claws-mail-git/
A feature request to the official Arch repository was rejected.
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/42659

Regards,
Ralf


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 07:36:54 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 06:36:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3321] New: selected message doesn't deselected when
 moving focus using up/down on keyboard
Message-ID: <bug-3321-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3321

            Bug ID: 3321
           Summary: selected message doesn't deselected when moving focus
                    using up/down on keyboard
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.11.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message List
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: bleketux at gmail.com

Reproduce :
1. Select one message on Message list.
2. Select thread or select all message on Message List.
3. Press up or down on keyboard.

Result :
Others message still selected and the focused message is not change in Message
View Panel.

When I use previous version v3.10.1, the result is :
Other messages deselected and the focused message is shown in Message View
Panel.

Is it on purpose behaviour ?

Thanks.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 12:50:10 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 11:50:10 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3321] selected message doesn't deselected when moving
 focus using up/down on keyboard
In-Reply-To: <bug-3321-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3321-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3321-595-pgKlW0FZ1F@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3321

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
Nothing changed in Claws in relation to that between 3.10.1 and 3.11.1

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From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Tue Nov  4 14:24:26 2014
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 14:24:26 +0100
Subject: [Users] To-arrow
Message-ID: <20141104142426.16b545ba@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

Hi,

When I send mail to someone, and keep a copy, Claws is very friendly to
not show the recipient instead of the sender (because that's me). To
indicate it is showing a recipient, the address is prefixed with "-->".

Is it possible to configure Claws to use something more 21st-century
like, e.g. "→" or "➥" ? A hidden config setting, maybe?

-- Johan


From h.m.brand at xs4all.nl  Tue Nov  4 14:58:22 2014
From: h.m.brand at xs4all.nl (H.Merijn Brand)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 14:58:22 +0100
Subject: [Users] To-arrow
In-Reply-To: <20141104142426.16b545ba@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
References: <20141104142426.16b545ba@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <20141104145822.6447d342@pc09.procura.nl>

On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 14:24:26 +0100, Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl>
wrote:

> Hi,

hi sciurius

> When I send mail to someone, and keep a copy, Claws is very friendly to
> not show the recipient instead of the sender (because that's me). To
> indicate it is showing a recipient, the address is prefixed with "-->".
> 
> Is it possible to configure Claws to use something more 21st-century
> like, e.g. "→" or "➥" ? A hidden config setting, maybe?

Currently it is not. It is hardcoded.
If you build from scratch, try something like this:
--8<---
diff --git a/src/summaryview.c b/src/summaryview.c
index dacbc66..526e504 100644
--- a/src/summaryview.c
+++ b/src/summaryview.c
@@ -3392,7 +3392,7 @@ static inline void summary_set_header(SummaryView *summaryview, gchar *text[],
                                to_text = to_text ? to_text : _("(No From)");
                        }
                }
-               snprintf(tmp2, BUFFSIZE-1, "--> %s", to_text);
+               snprintf(tmp2, BUFFSIZE-1, "\342\207\222 %s", to_text);
                tmp2[BUFFSIZE-1]='\0';
                text[col_pos[S_COL_FROM]] = tmp2;
        }
-->8---

As a POC I tried that, and it works (though personally I don't really
see it as a real gain)

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From subscript at free.fr  Tue Nov  4 15:03:31 2014
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 15:03:31 +0100
Subject: [Users] To-arrow
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References: <20141104142426.16b545ba@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <20141104150331.0e54ce71@anthra>

Hello Johan,


On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 14:24:26 +0100 Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> When I send mail to someone, and keep a copy, Claws is very friendly to
> not show the recipient instead of the sender (because that's me). To
> indicate it is showing a recipient, the address is prefixed with "-->".
> 
> Is it possible to configure Claws to use something more 21st-century
> like, e.g. "→" or "➥" ? A hidden config setting, maybe?

Agreed on that, a glyph would look better, but it maye depend on the
available font and encoding.. It doesn't sound so easy to "solve" this.


Regards,

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From list at eworm.de  Tue Nov  4 15:09:08 2014
From: list at eworm.de (Christian Hesse)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 15:09:08 +0100
Subject: [Users] To-arrow
In-Reply-To: <20141104150331.0e54ce71@anthra>
References: <20141104142426.16b545ba@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20141104150331.0e54ce71@anthra>
Message-ID: <20141104150908.21ba3df0@leda.localdomain>

wwp <subscript at free.fr> on Tue, 2014/11/04 15:03:
> Hello Johan,
> 
> 
> On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 14:24:26 +0100 Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > When I send mail to someone, and keep a copy, Claws is very friendly to
> > not show the recipient instead of the sender (because that's me). To
> > indicate it is showing a recipient, the address is prefixed with "-->".
> > 
> > Is it possible to configure Claws to use something more 21st-century
> > like, e.g. "→" or "➥" ? A hidden config setting, maybe?
> 
> Agreed on that, a glyph would look better, but it maye depend on the
> available font and encoding.. It doesn't sound so easy to "solve" this.

Is it possible to add an icon? Something like the "message has been
forwarded" icon could be useful.
-- 
main(a){char*c=/*    Schoene Gruesse                         */"B?IJj;MEH"
"CX:;",b;for(a/*    Chris           get my mail address:    */=0;b=c[a++];)
putchar(b-1/(/*               gcc -o sig sig.c && ./sig    */b/42*2-3)*42);}
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 15:22:04 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 14:22:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3321] selected message doesn't deselected when moving
 focus using up/down on keyboard
In-Reply-To: <bug-3321-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3321-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3321-595-sGodxzLYYj@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3321

--- Comment #2 from Andreas Rönnquist <gusnan at gusnan.se> ---
Reverting Mones commit

* 8090f02 - Remove unreachable code (4 weeks ago) <Ricardo Mones>

seems to fix it.

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From h.m.brand at xs4all.nl  Tue Nov  4 15:24:02 2014
From: h.m.brand at xs4all.nl (H.Merijn Brand)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 15:24:02 +0100
Subject: [Users] To-arrow
In-Reply-To: <20141104150331.0e54ce71@anthra>
References: <20141104142426.16b545ba@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20141104150331.0e54ce71@anthra>
Message-ID: <20141104152402.676f6be5@pc09.procura.nl>

On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 15:03:31 +0100, wwp <subscript at free.fr> wrote:

> Hello Johan,
> 
> 
> On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 14:24:26 +0100 Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > When I send mail to someone, and keep a copy, Claws is very friendly to
> > not show the recipient instead of the sender (because that's me). To
> > indicate it is showing a recipient, the address is prefixed with "-->".
> > 
> > Is it possible to configure Claws to use something more 21st-century
> > like, e.g. "→" or "➥" ? A hidden config setting, maybe?
> 
> Agreed on that, a glyph would look better, but it maye depend on the
> available font and encoding.. It doesn't sound so easy to "solve" this.

As long as it is "Text", it could be read from a config file and then
inserted at the point where currently "-->" is hardcoded.

Icons however would require quite a bit of work to replace the current
ASCII "art", as "-->" currently is just part of the text in that
summary column.

> Regards,

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From h.m.brand at xs4all.nl  Tue Nov  4 15:57:57 2014
From: h.m.brand at xs4all.nl (H.Merijn Brand)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 15:57:57 +0100
Subject: [Users] To-arrow
In-Reply-To: <20141104142426.16b545ba@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
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Message-ID: <20141104155757.09ced5bf@pc09.procura.nl>

On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 14:24:26 +0100, Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl>
wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> When I send mail to someone, and keep a copy, Claws is very friendly to
> not show the recipient instead of the sender (because that's me). To
> indicate it is showing a recipient, the address is prefixed with "-->".
> 
> Is it possible to configure Claws to use something more 21st-century
> like, e.g. "→" or "➥" ? A hidden config setting, maybe?

A complete patch making this configurable by adding to_self, like
--8<---
enable_swap_from=1
to_self=→
-->8---
to the [Common] section of ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc

No doc changes yet. Just a proof of concept to make users even more
happy than they already are

diff --git a/src/prefs_common.c b/src/prefs_common.c
index 25ac2be..7320d79 100644
--- a/src/prefs_common.c
+++ b/src/prefs_common.c
@@ -1064,6 +1064,8 @@ static PrefParam param[] = {
         NULL, NULL, NULL},
        {"enable_swap_from", "FALSE", &prefs_common.swap_from, P_BOOL,
         NULL, NULL, NULL},
+       {"to_self", "FALSE", &prefs_common.to_self, P_STRING,
+        NULL, NULL, NULL},
        {"use_stripes_everywhere", "TRUE", &prefs_common.use_stripes_everywhere, P_BOOL,
         NULL, NULL, NULL},
        {"use_stripes_in_summaries", "TRUE", &prefs_common.use_stripes_in_summaries, P_BOOL,
diff --git a/src/prefs_common.h b/src/prefs_common.h
index 465a490..abd1d12 100644
--- a/src/prefs_common.h
+++ b/src/prefs_common.h
@@ -221,6 +221,7 @@ struct _PrefsCommon
        gboolean show_searchbar;
        gboolean expand_thread;
        gboolean swap_from;
+       gchar *to_self;
        gboolean use_addr_book;
        gchar *date_format;
        gboolean *msgview_date_format;
diff --git a/src/summaryview.c b/src/summaryview.c
index dacbc66..23a01fe 100644
--- a/src/summaryview.c
+++ b/src/summaryview.c
@@ -3382,6 +3382,8 @@ static inline void summary_set_header(SummaryView *summaryview, gchar *text[],
        if (!should_swap) {
                text[col_pos[S_COL_FROM]] = from_text;
        } else {
+               static gchar *to_self = NULL;
+
                if (prefs_common.use_addr_book) {
                        gchar *tmp = summary_complete_address(to_text);
                        if (tmp) {
@@ -3392,7 +3394,12 @@ static inline void summary_set_header(SummaryView *summaryview, gchar *text[],
                                to_text = to_text ? to_text : _("(No From)");
                        }
                }
-               snprintf(tmp2, BUFFSIZE-1, "--> %s", to_text);
+
+               if (to_self == NULL) { /* first time through */
+                   to_self = prefs_common.to_self && *prefs_common.to_self ?
+                       prefs_common.to_self : "-->";
+               }
+               snprintf(tmp2, BUFFSIZE-1, "%s %s", to_self, to_text);
                tmp2[BUFFSIZE-1]='\0';
                text[col_pos[S_COL_FROM]] = tmp2;
        }


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 16:10:38 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 15:10:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3321] selected message doesn't deselected when moving
 focus using up/down on keyboard
In-Reply-To: <bug-3321-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3321-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3321-595-tjsgOFCBqG@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3321

--- Comment #3 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #2)
> Reverting Mones commit
> 
> * 8090f02 - Remove unreachable code (4 weeks ago) <Ricardo Mones>
> 
> seems to fix it.

I'm curious about this. What changes the value of clist->selection_mode between
the "switch (clist->selection_mode)"¹/"case GTK_SELECTION_BROWSE"² and the
removed "if (clist->selection_mode == GTK_SELECTION_BROWSE)"³ ?

Because there's just a move_focus_row call which doesn't alter selection_mode
AFAICS (function seems to do what it says.

Anyway, if reverting it fixes the issue, go ahead. It's just I don't like
dealing with code which does magic ;)

¹
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=blob;f=src/gtk/gtkcmclist.c;h=7980b8a2#l7027
²
http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=blob;f=src/gtk/gtkcmclist.c;h=7980b8a2#l7032
³ http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=commitdiff;h=8090f02e

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 16:16:34 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 15:16:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3321] selected message doesn't deselected when moving
 focus using up/down on keyboard
In-Reply-To: <bug-3321-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3321-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3321-595-ECKVXYwkqF@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3321

--- Comment #4 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #3)
>
> Anyway, if reverting it fixes the issue, go ahead. It's just I don't like
> dealing with code which does magic ;)

BTW, believe it or not I checked the behaviour of summaryview before and after
and it looked the same (yes, it already was as buggy as described). But maybe I
missed something :(

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 16:35:59 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 15:35:59 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3321] selected message doesn't deselected when moving
 focus using up/down on keyboard
In-Reply-To: <bug-3321-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3321-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3321-595-cZTh2GAT30@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3321

--- Comment #5 from Andreas Rönnquist <gusnan at gusnan.se> ---
Mones, do notice the previous case:

    case GTK_SELECTION_MULTIPLE:
      if (clist->anchor >= 0)
    return;
    case GTK_SELECTION_BROWSE:

- it doesn't end with a break, so the GTK_SELECTION_BROWSE alternative will be
run through for both GTK_SELECTION_BROWSE, and (some instances of)
GTK_SELECTION_MULTIPLE (when it doesn't reach the return in that block).

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 16:46:48 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 15:46:48 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3321] selected message doesn't deselected when moving
 focus using up/down on keyboard
In-Reply-To: <bug-3321-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3321-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3321-595-PYfX2vyuH5@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3321

--- Comment #6 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #5)
> Mones, do notice the previous case:
> 
>     case GTK_SELECTION_MULTIPLE:
>       if (clist->anchor >= 0)
> 	return;
>     case GTK_SELECTION_BROWSE:
> 
> - it doesn't end with a break, so the GTK_SELECTION_BROWSE alternative will
> be run through for both GTK_SELECTION_BROWSE, and (some instances of)
> GTK_SELECTION_MULTIPLE (when it doesn't reach the return in that block).

Yeah, I missed that :)
Many thanks Andreas!
Reverting then...

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From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Tue Nov  4 17:21:42 2014
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 17:21:42 +0100
Subject: [Users] To-arrow
In-Reply-To: <20141104155757.09ced5bf@pc09.procura.nl>
References: <20141104142426.16b545ba@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
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Message-ID: <20141104172142.0eac2a04@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 15:57:57 +0100
"H.Merijn Brand" <h.m.brand at xs4all.nl> wrote:

> A complete patch making this configurable by adding to_self, like
> --8<---
> enable_swap_from=1
> to_self=→
> -->8---
> to the [Common] section of ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc


With just a little twwaking it applies to the git source, and works
like a charm. I find the result eye-pleasing.

Thanks,
	Johan
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From itz at buug.org  Tue Nov  4 18:30:50 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 09:30:50 -0800
Subject: [Users] To-arrow
In-Reply-To: <20141104142426.16b545ba@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
References: <20141104142426.16b545ba@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
Message-ID: <20141104093050.193bb934.itz@buug.org>

On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 14:24:26 +0100,
Johan Vromans <jvromans at squirrel.nl> wrote:

Johan> When I send mail to someone, and keep a copy, Claws is very
Johan> friendly to not show the recipient instead of the sender (because
Johan> that's me). To indicate it is showing a recipient, the address is
Johan> prefixed with "-->".

Really?  I have been looking for this option, but AFAICS it doesn't
exist.  What knob do I have to turn / push?

Or is this effective only in the Sent folder?  I don't use it, I file
outgoing mails in INBOX to keep whole threads.

(Using 3.11.1 with IMAP)

-- 
Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages.
Local Variables:
mode:claws-external
End:


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Tue Nov  4 19:09:52 2014
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 18:09:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] To-arrow
In-Reply-To: <20141104093050.193bb934.itz@buug.org>
References: <20141104142426.16b545ba@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20141104093050.193bb934.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20141104180952.01b92e91@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 09:30:50 -0800
Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:

Hello Ian,

>Or is this effective only in the Sent folder?  I don't use it, I file
>outgoing mails in INBOX to keep whole threads.

No, it works in all my ML folders, which are 'regular' folders.  But
like you, I can't find the knob to work it any more, either.   ;-l

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
I'll be the rubbish you'll be the bin
Love Song - The Damned
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From bugreporter at abwesend.de  Tue Nov  4 19:35:39 2014
From: bugreporter at abwesend.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 19:35:39 +0100
Subject: [Users] Revisiting the socket_dir $TMPDIR issue
Message-ID: <20141104193539.343c5eb1@gmx.net>

Hello everyone, especially the developers!

This is about the issue with Claws Mail, Firefox and mailto handlers,
where Claws Mail is started more than once because of a different tmp dir
than $TMPDIR due to either Firefox altering an unset $TMPDIR or other
programs deleting a set $TMPDIR (e.g. gnome-terminal does that). It has
been discussed on the list before as well as in various other places.

Trying once more to figure out how it could be fixed, it has been suggested
that following the XDG basedir spec would be a solution:

  https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1365#comment:11

And indeed, using glib's g_get_user_runtime_dir() instead of
g_get_tmp_dir() even works for the gnome-terminal's mailto handler issue.

  $ echo $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR
  /run/user/1000

If $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set, g_get_user_runtime_dir() falls back
to $XDG_CACHE_HOME:

  $ unset XDG_RUNTIME_DIR
  $ echo $XDG_CACHE_HOME

  $ xdg-user-dir RUNTIME
  /home/ms21b

Would that be an option (if not putting the file below $HOME/.claws-mail instead)?


diff -Nurb --strip-trailing-cr claws-mail-3.11.1-orig/src/main.c claws-mail-3.11.1/src/main.c
--- claws-mail-3.11.1-orig/src/main.c	2014-10-27 19:58:13.000000000 +0100
+++ claws-mail-3.11.1/src/main.c	2014-11-04 19:13:50.172033231 +0100
@@ -2144,7 +2144,7 @@
 		gint stat_ok;
 
 		socket_dir = g_strdup_printf("%s%cclaws-mail-%d",
-					   g_get_tmp_dir(), G_DIR_SEPARATOR,
+					   g_get_user_runtime_dir(), G_DIR_SEPARATOR,
 #if HAVE_GETUID
 					   getuid());
 #else


From eyolf at oestrem.com  Tue Nov  4 20:01:45 2014
From: eyolf at oestrem.com (Eyolf =?UTF-8?B?w5hzdHJlbQ==?=)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 20:01:45 +0100
Subject: [Users] To-arrow
In-Reply-To: <20141104093050.193bb934.itz@buug.org>
References: <20141104142426.16b545ba@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20141104093050.193bb934.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20141104200145.402caf73@oestrem.com>

Den Tue, 4 Nov 2014 09:30:50 -0800
Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> skrev:

> I don't use it, I file
> outgoing mails in INBOX to keep whole threads.

See, Paul? I'm not the only one. :)

Eyolf


-- 
Praeterea censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.


From linxt at comcast.net  Wed Nov  5 03:19:22 2014
From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 18:19:22 -0800
Subject: [Users] External editor?
Message-ID: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>

How do I select what external editor is used for a claws-mail reply
(Shift-Ctrl-X)?

I would expect some sort of drop down box listing installed editors or
something in configuration but don't find that.

Thanks, Tom

-- 
Failure seldom stops you. What stops you is the fear of failure.

  -  Jack Lemmon

^^  --...  ...--  / -.-  --.  --...  -.-.  ..-.  -.-.

^^^^
Tom Taylor  KG7CFC
openSUSE 13.1 (64-bit), Kernel 3.11.6-4-default,
KDE 4.11.2, AMD Phenom X4 955, GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Nvidia 337.19)
16GB RAM -- 3x1.5TB sata2 -- 128GB-SSD
FF 27.0, claws-mail 3.10.0
registered linux user 263467


From clm.cel at celehner.com  Wed Nov  5 03:41:36 2014
From: clm.cel at celehner.com (Charles Lehner)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 21:41:36 -0500
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
Message-ID: <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>

On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 18:19:22 -0800
Thomas Taylor <linxt at comcast.net> wrote:

> How do I select what external editor is used for a claws-mail reply
> (Shift-Ctrl-X)?
> 
> I would expect some sort of drop down box listing installed editors or
> something in configuration but don't find that.
> 
> Thanks, Tom
> 

Hi Tom,

There is an option to change the command used for external editor in 
Preferences/Message View/External Programs. A drop-down box could be
cool though.

Regards,
Charles


From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au  Wed Nov  5 04:22:42 2014
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 14:22:42 +1100
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
Message-ID: <20141105142242.54fc7f6e@PPlive>

On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 21:41:36 -0500
Charles Lehner <clm.cel at celehner.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 18:19:22 -0800
> Thomas Taylor <linxt at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > How do I select what external editor is used for a claws-mail reply
> > (Shift-Ctrl-X)?
> > 
> > I would expect some sort of drop down box listing installed editors
> > or something in configuration but don't find that.
> > 
> > Thanks, Tom
> > 
> 
> Hi Tom,
> 
> There is an option to change the command used for external editor in 
> Preferences/Message View/External Programs. A drop-down box could be
> cool though.
> 
> Regards,
> Charles

Ha!  Just added "+set syntax=mail" to that.  Gvim was recognising files 
from CM as being emails.  Go figure.

-- 
testing
bP
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From clm.cel at celehner.com  Wed Nov  5 04:30:45 2014
From: clm.cel at celehner.com (Charles Lehner)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 22:30:45 -0500
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141105142242.54fc7f6e@PPlive>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
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Message-ID: <20141104223045.4f1dc64c@cel.celehner.com>

On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 14:22:42 +1100
blind Pete <peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au> wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 21:41:36 -0500
> Charles Lehner <clm.cel at celehner.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 18:19:22 -0800
> > Thomas Taylor <linxt at comcast.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > How do I select what external editor is used for a claws-mail
> > > reply (Shift-Ctrl-X)?
> > > 
> > > I would expect some sort of drop down box listing installed
> > > editors or something in configuration but don't find that.
> > > 
> > > Thanks, Tom
> > > 
> > 
> > Hi Tom,
> > 
> > There is an option to change the command used for external editor
> > in Preferences/Message View/External Programs. A drop-down box
> > could be cool though.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Charles
> 
> Ha!  Just added "+set syntax=mail" to that.  Gvim was recognising
> files from CM as being emails.  Go figure.
> 

Good idea. I've been doing something similar using an autocommand in my vimrc:

au BufNewFile,BufRead ~/.claws-mail/tmp/tmpmsg.* set ft=mail
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From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au  Wed Nov  5 04:49:38 2014
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 14:49:38 +1100
Subject: [Users] To-arrow
In-Reply-To: <20141104150908.21ba3df0@leda.localdomain>
References: <20141104142426.16b545ba@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20141104150331.0e54ce71@anthra>
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Message-ID: <20141105144938.4b8b7480@PPlive>

On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 15:09:08 +0100
Christian Hesse <list at eworm.de> wrote:

> wwp <subscript at free.fr> on Tue, 2014/11/04 15:03:
> > Hello Johan,
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 14:24:26 +0100 Johan Vromans
> > <jvromans at squirrel.nl> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > When I send mail to someone, and keep a copy, Claws is very
> > > friendly to not show the recipient instead of the sender (because
> > > that's me). To indicate it is showing a recipient, the address is
> > > prefixed with "-->".
> > > 
> > > Is it possible to configure Claws to use something more
> > > 21st-century like, e.g. "→" or "➥" ? A hidden config setting,
> > > maybe?
> > 
> > Agreed on that, a glyph would look better, but it maye depend on the
> > available font and encoding.. It doesn't sound so easy to "solve"
> > this.
> 
> Is it possible to add an icon? Something like the "message has been
> forwarded" icon could be useful.

If anyone is thinking about adding a new icon, NOW is a very good time
to talk about it.  As distinct from after the contest for a new theme.  

<http://www.claws-mail.org/theme-contest-2014.php>

-- 
testing
bP
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From subscript at free.fr  Wed Nov  5 09:23:00 2014
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 09:23:00 +0100
Subject: [Users] To-arrow
In-Reply-To: <20141104200145.402caf73@oestrem.com>
References: <20141104142426.16b545ba@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20141104093050.193bb934.itz@buug.org>
 <20141104200145.402caf73@oestrem.com>
Message-ID: <20141105092300.53a6360b@anthra>

Hello Eyolf,


On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 20:01:45 +0100 Eyolf Østrem <eyolf at oestrem.com> wrote:

> Den Tue, 4 Nov 2014 09:30:50 -0800
> Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> skrev:
> 
> > I don't use it, I file
> > outgoing mails in INBOX to keep whole threads.
> 
> See, Paul? I'm not the only one. :)

This means you are (at least) two now :-P.

Here I make a distinguo between sent things and my own visibility to
others (maybe it's just a technical use), therefore I'm or Bcc'ing to
myself when it matters.


Regards,

-- 
wwp
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From ricardo at mones.org  Wed Nov  5 10:39:19 2014
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 10:39:19 +0100
Subject: [Users] To-arrow
In-Reply-To: <20141105144938.4b8b7480@PPlive>
References: <20141104142426.16b545ba@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20141104150331.0e54ce71@anthra>
 <20141104150908.21ba3df0@leda.localdomain>
 <20141105144938.4b8b7480@PPlive>
Message-ID: <20141105093919.GS13794@trasgu>

On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 02:49:38PM +1100, blind Pete wrote:
[…]
> If anyone is thinking about adding a new icon, NOW is a very good time
> to talk about it.  As distinct from after the contest for a new theme.  

Don't worry, nobody is thinking about that.

regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  00:45 < hammar> cool.. have you used rssyl?                          
  00:46 <@Ticho> um, yes                            Seen on #sylpheed

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From ricardo at mones.org  Wed Nov  5 16:27:29 2014
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 16:27:29 +0100
Subject: [Users] Use python-plugin to force tab-completion for
 adress-search
In-Reply-To: <20140924212804.4a9928e3@bim.hgs42>
References: <20140924212804.4a9928e3@bim.hgs42>
Message-ID: <20141105152729.GT13794@trasgu>

Hi Stephan,

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 09:28:04PM +0200, Stephan Holl wrote:
> Dear devs,
> 
> while playing arround with pycarddav[1] I am searching for an option
> using my carddav-contacts within claws adress-completion. 
> I am thinking about using the python-plugin, but cannot find a way of
> doing it.
> 
> Is there an option using this similar to mutts query_command somewhere?
> Can anybody give some hints?

You can write a plugin to extend the completion list with the addresses
you want hooking on ADDDRESS_COMPLETION_BUILD_ADDRESS_LIST_HOOKLIST.

I don't think python plugin allows to provide python methods as callbacks
for those hooks, though. Maybe I'm wrong here, or maybe the python plugin
developer is willing to extend it to allow this.

This could in fact represent a major feature, allowing to write whole
plugins in python only :)

regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  bash: ./signature: No such file or directory              /bin/bash

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From bugreporter at abwesend.de  Wed Nov  5 16:33:11 2014
From: bugreporter at abwesend.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 16:33:11 +0100
Subject: [Users] Revisiting the socket_dir $TMPDIR issue
In-Reply-To: <20141104193539.343c5eb1@gmx.net>
References: <20141104193539.343c5eb1@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <20141105163311.50219144@gmx.net>

>   $ echo $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR
>   /run/user/1000
> 
> If $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set, g_get_user_runtime_dir() falls back
> to $XDG_CACHE_HOME:
> 
>   $ unset XDG_RUNTIME_DIR
>   $ echo $XDG_CACHE_HOME
> 
>   $ xdg-user-dir RUNTIME
>   /home/ms21b

Unforunately, the opposite case, setting $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR to something
else, doesn't work with gnome-terminal's mailto handler either. The env
var also get's deleted. It's just the default that somehow works.




From linxt at comcast.net  Wed Nov  5 18:18:04 2014
From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 09:18:04 -0800
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
Message-ID: <20141105091804.2060887b@desktop-1.home>

On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 18:19:22 -0800
Thomas Taylor <linxt at comcast.net> wrote:

> How do I select what external editor is used for a claws-mail reply
> (Shift-Ctrl-X)?
> 
> I would expect some sort of drop down box listing installed editors or
> something in configuration but don't find that.
> 
> Thanks, Tom
> 

Thanks to all for the replies which were informative but not useful.  I
obviously didn't state my request correctly.

I want to be able to select which editor (kate, vim, emacs) I wish to edit an
email reply with.  

Tom

-- 
Failure seldom stops you. What stops you is the fear of failure.

  -  Jack Lemmon

^^  --...  ...--  / -.-  --.  --...  -.-.  ..-.  -.-.

^^^^
Tom Taylor  KG7CFC
openSUSE 13.1 (64-bit), Kernel 3.11.6-4-default,
KDE 4.11.2, AMD Phenom X4 955, GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Nvidia 337.19)
16GB RAM -- 3x1.5TB sata2 -- 128GB-SSD
FF 27.0, claws-mail 3.10.0
registered linux user 263467


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Wed Nov  5 18:35:42 2014
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 17:35:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141105091804.2060887b@desktop-1.home>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141105091804.2060887b@desktop-1.home>
Message-ID: <20141105173542.344f62af@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 09:18:04 -0800
Thomas Taylor <linxt at comcast.net> wrote:

Hello Thomas,

>I want to be able to select which editor (kate, vim, emacs) I wish to
>edit an email reply with.  

Where Charles said.  It seems to be a two step process though;  Click
Reply, then click the "editor" button in the tool bar of the composer
window.

IOW, I've not found a way to call the preferred editor directly.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
But they didn't tell him the first two didn't count
Tin Soldiers - Stiff Little Fingers
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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Wed Nov  5 18:35:14 2014
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 17:35:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
Message-ID: <20141105173514.29ffc5c4@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 21:41:36 -0500
Charles Lehner <clm.cel at celehner.com> wrote:

Hello Charles,

>There is an option to change the command used for external editor in 
>Preferences/Message View/External Programs. A drop-down box could be
>cool though.

Look again;  It's got one, accessed at the right hand side of the text
gadget.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
I don't believe you have to be an idiot to get somewhere these days
Bombsite Boy - The Adverts
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From bugreporter at abwesend.de  Wed Nov  5 18:44:09 2014
From: bugreporter at abwesend.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 18:44:09 +0100
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141105173542.344f62af@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141105091804.2060887b@desktop-1.home>
 <20141105173542.344f62af@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20141105184409.0ccfb43d@gmx.net>

On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 17:35:42 +0000, Brad Rogers wrote:

> Thomas Taylor wrote:
> 
> Hello Thomas,
> 
> >I want to be able to select which editor (kate, vim, emacs) I wish to
> >edit an email reply with.  
> 
> Where Charles said.  It seems to be a two step process though;  Click
> Reply, then click the "editor" button in the tool bar of the composer
> window.
> 
> IOW, I've not found a way to call the preferred editor directly.

Preferences > Compose > Writing > Editing

albeit with confirmation that you can only define a single external
editor that will be used. If you want to choose between multiple
external editors, the ugly workaround would be to reconfigure the
preferences (and it may also work to launch a tiny GUI helper program
that can launch multiple editors).


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Wed Nov  5 19:45:24 2014
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 18:45:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141105184409.0ccfb43d@gmx.net>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141105091804.2060887b@desktop-1.home>
 <20141105173542.344f62af@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20141105184409.0ccfb43d@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <20141105184524.46bcff93@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 18:44:09 +0100
Michael Schwendt <bugreporter at abwesend.de> wrote:

Hello Michael,

>Preferences > Compose > Writing > Editing

Thanks!

Sometimes, it seems as though CM has too many options.   :-)

It might be helpful to put the "launch directly" option and the choice
of editor on the same page as they're likely to be used in conjunction.

-- 
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         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
You're not so safe in the safety of your room
Nasty - The Damned
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From ivan.nazarenko at gmail.com  Wed Nov  5 20:10:16 2014
From: ivan.nazarenko at gmail.com (Ivan Nazarenko)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 17:10:16 -0200
Subject: [Users] help with missing entries in filter log
Message-ID: <20141105171016.2e3f5f49@ivan-4770>

Kubuntu 14.04 with its default CM 3.9.3 here. A few accounts configured, all of them with POP servers (no IMAP), and a dozen filters, mostly just separating some mail lists to their respective folders.

And bogofilter on two spammy accounts.

I want to debug why some messages are being dumped into the "unsure" bogofilter folder, when should be trashed by some prior rule instead. From what I have here:

- I have this filter rule: ACCOUNT: All COND: to_or_cc matchcase "nina.com.br" ACTION: move "#mh/Mailbox/trash" stop
- After above rule, I have: ACCOUNT: main COND: test "bogofilter -u < %F" ACTION: move "#mh/Mailbox/trash" stop
- and the last rule: ACCOUNT: sales COND: test "bogofilter -u < %F" ACTION: move "#mh/Mailbox/trash" stop

Although the trashing nina.com.br rule, I still get some messages on unsure folder. For instance, right this one passed through:

X-Bogosity: Unsure, spamicity=0.941095
Return-Path: <update+zj4y4cfy4z49 at facebookmail.com>
<...>
To: Tiffany Carrier <tiffanycarrier at nina.com.br>
From: "Facebook" <update+zj4y4cfy4z49 at facebookmail.com>
<...>
 
How bogofilter got the message prior the trashing rule? The rule seems clear and there are a "stop" there!

Trying to debug this, I viewed the filtering.log file. Those messages that got trough DO NOT appear there! But they were obviously processed by bogofilter, given the X-Bogosity header there.

So, how come some messages are not logged?

And in the filtering.log file I get, for each message logged:

[16:30:45] filtering message (incorporation)
message file: /home/ivan/.claws-mail/tempfolder/processing/778
<...>

That number (778, above) is different for each message, usually incrementing by 1 for sequential messages, but sometimes the number jumps up by a few or many units. I do not know if this is related or not to the above problem.

Thank you for any help.

Ivan


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Nov  5 20:22:07 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 19:22:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] help with missing entries in filter log
In-Reply-To: <20141105171016.2e3f5f49@ivan-4770>
References: <20141105171016.2e3f5f49@ivan-4770>
Message-ID: <20141105192207.74afdb78@thewildbeast>

On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 17:10:16 -0200
Ivan Nazarenko <ivan.nazarenko at gmail.com> wrote: 

> Kubuntu 14.04 with its default CM 3.9.3 here.

Use our PPA to get the latest release, it's recommended!!
https://launchpad.net/~claws-mail/+archive/ubuntu/ppa


> Although the trashing nina.com.br rule, I still get some messages
> on unsure folder.

I guess that you're using the Bogofilter plugin.

with regards

Paul


-- 
Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières


From brad at fineby.me.uk  Wed Nov  5 20:27:30 2014
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 19:27:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] help with missing entries in filter log
In-Reply-To: <20141105171016.2e3f5f49@ivan-4770>
References: <20141105171016.2e3f5f49@ivan-4770>
Message-ID: <20141105192730.526288d0@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 17:10:16 -0200
Ivan Nazarenko <ivan.nazarenko at gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Ivan,

>How bogofilter got the message prior the trashing rule? The rule seems

I know you're calling bogofilter in your filters, but do you also have
the bogofilter plugin installed?

-- 
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         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
Looking for something I can call my own
Chairman Of The Bored - Crass
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From ivan.nazarenko at gmail.com  Wed Nov  5 20:34:54 2014
From: ivan.nazarenko at gmail.com (Ivan Nazarenko)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 17:34:54 -0200
Subject: [Users] help with missing entries in filter log
In-Reply-To: <20141105192207.74afdb78@thewildbeast>
References: <20141105171016.2e3f5f49@ivan-4770>
 <20141105192207.74afdb78@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141105173454.2e8b5338@ivan-4770>

On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 19:22:07 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> > Although the trashing nina.com.br rule, I still get some messages
> > on unsure folder.
> 
> I guess that you're using the Bogofilter plugin.

Yes. I though I had to include it in order to have it working in the filters rules. My bad.

Problem solved. Thank you.

Ivan


From clifflaine at europe.com  Wed Nov  5 20:36:43 2014
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 19:36:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] 3.11.1 new feeds not marked or appearing
Message-ID: <20141105193643.143ba972@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

Has anyone else found that updated newsfeeds fail to get picked up by
3.11.1?

My friend has updated her blog five minutes ago. Liferea picks it up
but not Claws, not even when I manually refresh the feeds. I thought it
had gone quiet in my suburb of the blogsphere!

Cliff


From ivan.nazarenko at gmail.com  Wed Nov  5 20:47:05 2014
From: ivan.nazarenko at gmail.com (Ivan Nazarenko)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 17:47:05 -0200
Subject: [Users] help with missing entries in filter log
In-Reply-To: <20141105192730.526288d0@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20141105171016.2e3f5f49@ivan-4770>
 <20141105192730.526288d0@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20141105174705.12438e3f@ivan-4770>

On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 19:27:30 +0000
Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 17:10:16 -0200
> Ivan Nazarenko <ivan.nazarenko at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Ivan,
> 
> >How bogofilter got the message prior the trashing rule? The rule seems
> 
> I know you're calling bogofilter in your filters, but do you also have
> the bogofilter plugin installed?

Yes. When I configured CM did not bother to RTFM or anything ... and it seemed intuitive to just include the plugin. By doing it I did not realize it was filtering everything before my filter rules. My mistake.

Thank you.


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Nov  5 21:02:35 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2014 20:02:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3237] incremental saves to drafts fails when expunge
 immediately is turned off
In-Reply-To: <bug-3237-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3237-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3237-595-ndxn7cDBAi@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3237

Dominik Volkamer <mail at dreieinhalb.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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            Version|3.10.1                      |3.11.0

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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Wed Nov  5 21:03:54 2014
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 20:03:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] help with missing entries in filter log
In-Reply-To: <20141105174705.12438e3f@ivan-4770>
References: <20141105171016.2e3f5f49@ivan-4770>
 <20141105192730.526288d0@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20141105174705.12438e3f@ivan-4770>
Message-ID: <20141105200354.4cd66f83@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 17:47:05 -0200
Ivan Nazarenko <ivan.nazarenko at gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Ivan,

>Yes. When I configured CM did not bother to RTFM or anything ... and it

Who reads FMs anyway?   :-)

>seemed intuitive to just include the plugin. By doing it I did not
>realize it was filtering everything before my filter rules. My mistake.

You're not the first person to be caught out like that.  I've no doubt
you won't be the last, either.

Glad you've got things sorted out to your satisfaction.

>Thank you.

You're welcome.

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         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
You suck my blood like a leech
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Nov  5 21:11:37 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2014 20:11:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3237] incremental saves to drafts fails when expunge
 immediately is turned off
In-Reply-To: <bug-3237-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3237-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3237-595-DoW4MVYHa4@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3237

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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From clm.cel at celehner.com  Wed Nov  5 21:31:31 2014
From: clm.cel at celehner.com (Charles Lehner)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 15:31:31 -0500
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141105173514.29ffc5c4@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141105173514.29ffc5c4@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20141105153131.43ab1f69@cel.celehner.com>

On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 17:35:14 +0000
Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 21:41:36 -0500
> Charles Lehner <clm.cel at celehner.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Charles,
> 
> >There is an option to change the command used for external editor in 
> >Preferences/Message View/External Programs. A drop-down box could be
> >cool though.
> 
> Look again;  It's got one, accessed at the right hand side of the text
> gadget.
> 

Very good, I see it now.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 02:48:18 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 01:48:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default
In-Reply-To: <bug-2939-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2939-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2939-595-VQ49Nos9eU@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2939

--- Comment #21 from Adam Nielsen <a.nielsen at shikadi.net> ---
I just got bitten by this bug too.  I deleted some e-mail and Claws then showed
the contents of my Trash in the inbox folder (a bug I sometimes run into) but
switching out and into the inbox a few times got it showing my inbox in the
inbox folder again, but a few recent messages I had just moved with rules were
missing.  I went to check in the destination folder and they weren't there!

Cue research on logging message deletes on the IMAP server because I no longer
trust Claws as it deleted some important e-mail without warning.  But then a
server-side search found the messages and they were in the correct folder, but
Claws wasn't showing them for some reason.  In the end I figured out that
because the e-mail thread had been going on since 2011, the new e-mails were
half way up the folder in the middle of the 2011 stuff, instead of right at the
end with all the other 2014 mail.

It would be really nice if there was an option to pick your favourite sort
order and then apply it to all folders.  That would solve the problem and keep
everyone happy.  As it stands now, if I forget to change the sort for each of
the hundreds of IMAP folders one by one then I can easily get bitten again
(this isn't the first time, just the first time it happened with important
e-mails.)

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From colin at colino.net  Thu Nov  6 09:18:05 2014
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:18:05 +0100
Subject: [Users] Revisiting the socket_dir $TMPDIR issue
In-Reply-To: <20141104193539.343c5eb1@gmx.net>
References: <20141104193539.343c5eb1@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <20141106091805.1c1c9b89@colin.i-run.lau>

On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 19:35:39 +0100, Michael Schwendt
<bugreporter at abwesend.de> wrote:

Hi Michael,

>  		socket_dir = g_strdup_printf("%s%cclaws-mail-%d",
> -					   g_get_tmp_dir(),
> G_DIR_SEPARATOR,
> +					   g_get_user_runtime_dir(),
> G_DIR_SEPARATOR, #if HAVE_GETUID

> Unforunately, the opposite case, setting $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR to something
> else, doesn't work with gnome-terminal's mailto handler either. The
> env var also get's deleted. It's just the default that somehow works.
 
So unfortunately, not a very good fix? 

I'm not very enthusiastic about changing this, because when the change
will arrive on users' desktops, the new binary could be launched along
the old one if it was running during the upgrade, and things could get
real messy...

So probably such a patch should check for a socket in the old place, and
if it doesn't exist use one in the new place.

Thanks for the patch, anyway.
-- 
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From ricardo at mones.org  Thu Nov  6 09:44:15 2014
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:44:15 +0100
Subject: [Users] Revisiting the socket_dir $TMPDIR issue
In-Reply-To: <20141106091805.1c1c9b89@colin.i-run.lau>
References: <20141104193539.343c5eb1@gmx.net>
 <20141106091805.1c1c9b89@colin.i-run.lau>
Message-ID: <20141106084415.GV13794@trasgu>

On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 09:18:05AM +0100, Colin Leroy wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 19:35:39 +0100, Michael Schwendt
> <bugreporter at abwesend.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> >  		socket_dir = g_strdup_printf("%s%cclaws-mail-%d",
> > -					   g_get_tmp_dir(),
> > G_DIR_SEPARATOR,
> > +					   g_get_user_runtime_dir(),
> > G_DIR_SEPARATOR, #if HAVE_GETUID
> 
> > Unforunately, the opposite case, setting $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR to something
> > else, doesn't work with gnome-terminal's mailto handler either. The
> > env var also get's deleted. It's just the default that somehow works.
>  
> So unfortunately, not a very good fix? 
> 
> I'm not very enthusiastic about changing this, because when the change
> will arrive on users' desktops, the new binary could be launched along
> the old one if it was running during the upgrade, and things could get
> real messy...
> 
> So probably such a patch should check for a socket in the old place, and
> if it doesn't exist use one in the new place.

Don't forget to bump glib's version check in configure.ac; that function
is only available since 2.28¹.

Anyway that function introduces a disparity of locations of the socket.
See attached program's output:

$ ./runtimedir # debian wheezy box
$XDG_RUNTIME_DIR         : (null)
$XDG_CACHE_HOME          : (null)
g_get_tmp_dir()          : /tmp
g_get_user_runtime_dir() : /home/mones/.cache

$ ./runtimedir # debian sid box
$XDG_RUNTIME_DIR         : /run/user/1000
$XDG_CACHE_HOME          : (null)
g_get_tmp_dir()          : /tmp
g_get_user_runtime_dir() : /run/user/1000

So I'd like also to see a patch for Clawsker to cope with this ;)

¹ https://developer.gnome.org/glib/2.30/glib-Miscellaneous-Utility-Functions.html#g-get-user-runtime-dir
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  Don't take the name of root in vain.          /usr/src/linux/README

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 09:54:18 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 08:54:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2939] make Sort By/Thread Date the default
In-Reply-To: <bug-2939-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2939-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2939-595-zd5pru30ed@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2939

--- Comment #22 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
(In reply to comment #21)

Adam,

> I just got bitten by this bug too.  

For a start, it's not a bug. It's a feature request.

> I deleted some e-mail and Claws then
> showed the contents of my Trash in the inbox folder (a bug I sometimes run
> into) but switching out and into the inbox a few times got it showing my
> inbox in the inbox folder again, but a few recent messages I had just moved
> with rules were missing.  I went to check in the destination folder and they
> weren't there!

Sounds like user error to me, as does...

> Cue research on logging message deletes on the IMAP server because I no
> longer trust Claws as it deleted some important e-mail without warning.

No, it didn't. Total false statement, as you confirm here:

>  But
> then a server-side search found the messages and they were in the correct
> folder, but Claws wasn't showing them for some reason.  In the end I figured
> out that because the e-mail thread had been going on since 2011, the new
> e-mails were half way up the folder in the middle of the 2011 stuff, instead
> of right at the end with all the other 2014 mail.

Please keep comments 'on topic', and don't be reporting PEBCAK as bugs. Thanks!

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From newsboy at scarlet-jade.com  Thu Nov  6 10:02:06 2014
From: newsboy at scarlet-jade.com (Graham P Davis)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:02:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] 3.11.1 new feeds not marked or appearing
References: <20141105193643.143ba972@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20141106090206.4230a034@linux-l0lu>

On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 19:36:43 +0000
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote:

> Has anyone else found that updated newsfeeds fail to get picked up by
> 3.11.1?
> 
> My friend has updated her blog five minutes ago. Liferea picks it up
> but not Claws, not even when I manually refresh the feeds. I thought
> it had gone quiet in my suburb of the blogsphere!
> 

Yes, I've got that as well. The problem seems to be related to a change
in the storage of of the folders and feeds. Whereas - in Linux at any
rate - in 3.10 the folders are in "~/.claws/RSSyl", in 3.11 they are
in  "~/.claws/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)". It seems that installing 3.11
results in a mixed system in which 3.11 doesn't work and, if you
backtrack to 3.10, that will also fail to function in that the feeds
will seem to be empty as well as not updating. 

I've got the system working once by, after backing up the old folder,
deleting the old-style folders. Due to having been switching systems
whilst testing openSUSE 13.2, I've managed to screw it up again so I'll
repeat the "cure" and see if it works this time!



-- 
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
OS: Linux: openSUSE 13.2 (64-bit); KDE 4.14.2; Kernel: 3.17.1





From clifflaine at europe.com  Thu Nov  6 11:48:25 2014
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 10:48:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] 3.11.1 new feeds not marked or appearing
In-Reply-To: <20141106090206.4230a034@linux-l0lu>
References: <20141105193643.143ba972@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20141106090206.4230a034@linux-l0lu>
Message-ID: <20141106104825.309c9419@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:02:06 +0000
Graham P Davis <newsboy at scarlet-jade.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 19:36:43 +0000
> Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote:
> 
> > Has anyone else found that updated newsfeeds fail to get picked up
> > by 3.11.1?
> 
> Yes, I've got that as well. The problem seems to be related to a
> change in the storage of of the folders and feeds. Whereas - in Linux
> at any rate - in 3.10 the folders are in "~/.claws/RSSyl", in 3.11
> they are in  "~/.claws/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)". It seems that
> installing 3.11 results in a mixed system in which 3.11 doesn't work
> and, if you backtrack to 3.10, that will also fail to function in
> that the feeds will seem to be empty as well as not updating. 

Yes -- I have an extra folder, but there's nothing in ~./claws/Rssyl/My
Feeds (RSSyl)/FEEDS

I tried forcing Claws back to an earlier version but it won't let me
install the rssyl plugin relating to that earlier version.

Does anyone know how we can get feeds working properly in 3.11? I've
tried Graham's solution above but it doesn't work here.

Cliff
CM 3.11.1 / Elementary OS "Luna" 


From newsboy at scarlet-jade.com  Thu Nov  6 12:39:57 2014
From: newsboy at scarlet-jade.com (Graham P Davis)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 11:39:57 +0000
Subject: [Users] 3.11.1 new feeds not marked or appearing
References: <20141105193643.143ba972@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20141106090206.4230a034@linux-l0lu>
 <20141106104825.309c9419@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20141106113957.4218f13b@linux-l0lu>

On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 10:48:25 +0000
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:02:06 +0000
> Graham P Davis <newsboy at scarlet-jade.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 19:36:43 +0000
> > Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Has anyone else found that updated newsfeeds fail to get picked up
> > > by 3.11.1?
> > 
> > Yes, I've got that as well. The problem seems to be related to a
> > change in the storage of of the folders and feeds. Whereas - in
> > Linux at any rate - in 3.10 the folders are in "~/.claws/RSSyl", in
> > 3.11 they are in  "~/.claws/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)". It seems that
> > installing 3.11 results in a mixed system in which 3.11 doesn't work
> > and, if you backtrack to 3.10, that will also fail to function in
> > that the feeds will seem to be empty as well as not updating. 
> 
> Yes -- I have an extra folder, but there's nothing in
> ~./claws/Rssyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)/FEEDS
> 
> I tried forcing Claws back to an earlier version but it won't let me
> install the rssyl plugin relating to that earlier version.
> 
> Does anyone know how we can get feeds working properly in 3.11? I've
> tried Graham's solution above but it doesn't work here.
> 
> Cliff
> CM 3.11.1 / Elementary OS "Luna" 

Didn't work for me either this time but I've got it working again - so
far - this way:

Shut down Claws.
Replace ~/.claws-mail/RSSyl with a backup version from 3.10.
Restart Claws.

After the restart, I got all tghe feeds topped up automatiacally with
"new" stuff, i.e. that received since since the old copy was last used.

In the ~/.claws-mail/RSSyl folder, all the feed folders apart from
obsolete ones had been moved into the new "My Feeds" folder. 

I think the problems I had were due to using a beta copy of 3.11
(3.10.98?) before stepping up to the operational 3.11.1.


-- 
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
OS: Linux: openSUSE 13.2 (64-bit); KDE 4.14.2; Kernel: 3.17.1





From bugreporter at abwesend.de  Thu Nov  6 13:14:04 2014
From: bugreporter at abwesend.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 13:14:04 +0100
Subject: [Users] Revisiting the socket_dir $TMPDIR issue
In-Reply-To: <20141106091805.1c1c9b89@colin.i-run.lau>
References: <20141104193539.343c5eb1@gmx.net>
 <20141106091805.1c1c9b89@colin.i-run.lau>
Message-ID: <20141106131404.3383a0d5@gmx.net>

On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:18:05 +0100, Colin Leroy wrote:

> So unfortunately, not a very good fix? 

True. The only benefit is it works by default. That is, without having to
override $TMPDIR. That's not good enough.

When testing whether it would also work with a customised $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR
(even if another special case), apparently I made a mistake and failed to
notice that gnome-terminal doesn't inherit that env var either (and yes,
that's a problem caused by gnome-terminal).

> I'm not very enthusiastic about changing this, because when the change
> will arrive on users' desktops, the new binary could be launched along
> the old one if it was running during the upgrade, and things could get
> real messy...
> 
> So probably such a patch should check for a socket in the old place, and
> if it doesn't exist use one in the new place.

Understood.

> Thanks for the patch, anyway.

At Fedora some people still think that Claws Mail should hardcode a
directory for the socket file. That would avoid the problem altogether,
but I don't know why the file is put into system tmpdir instead.

Btw, I'm also giving another try at getting Fedora /usr/bin/firefox changed
so it doesn't mess with $TMPDIR. That won't fix gnome-terminal mailto handler,
but is the lowest-hanging fruit, IMO.


From bugreporter at abwesend.de  Thu Nov  6 13:33:58 2014
From: bugreporter at abwesend.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 13:33:58 +0100
Subject: [Users] Revisiting the socket_dir $TMPDIR issue
In-Reply-To: <20141106084415.GV13794@trasgu>
References: <20141104193539.343c5eb1@gmx.net>
 <20141106091805.1c1c9b89@colin.i-run.lau>
 <20141106084415.GV13794@trasgu>
Message-ID: <20141106133358.1198fd81@gmx.net>

On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:44:15 +0100, Ricardo Mones wrote:

> So I'd like also to see a patch for Clawsker to cope with this ;)

Kindly note that it hardcodes /tmp here, so that differs from Claws Mail,
due to what g_get_tmp_dir() does.

$ grep ALTCONF clawsker
my $ALTCONFIGDIR = FALSE;
    my $socket = (not $ALTCONFIGDIR)? "/tmp/": $CONFIGDIR;
                $ALTCONFIGDIR = TRUE;


From ricardo at mones.org  Thu Nov  6 14:19:23 2014
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 14:19:23 +0100
Subject: [Users] Revisiting the socket_dir $TMPDIR issue
In-Reply-To: <20141106133358.1198fd81@gmx.net>
References: <20141104193539.343c5eb1@gmx.net>
 <20141106091805.1c1c9b89@colin.i-run.lau>
 <20141106084415.GV13794@trasgu> <20141106133358.1198fd81@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <20141106131923.GY13794@trasgu>

Hi Michael,

On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 01:33:58PM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:44:15 +0100, Ricardo Mones wrote:
> 
> > So I'd like also to see a patch for Clawsker to cope with this ;)
> 
> Kindly note that it hardcodes /tmp here, so that differs from Claws Mail,
> due to what g_get_tmp_dir() does.
> 
> $ grep ALTCONF clawsker
> my $ALTCONFIGDIR = FALSE;
>     my $socket = (not $ALTCONFIGDIR)? "/tmp/": $CONFIGDIR;
>                 $ALTCONFIGDIR = TRUE;

Yep, ignoring TMPDIR was a bug. Fixed in commit 144e5407 ;)

Thanks for noticing,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  You have the capacity to learn from mistakes. You'll learn a lot 
  today.                                           /usr/games/fortune

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From colin at colino.net  Thu Nov  6 15:19:15 2014
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 15:19:15 +0100
Subject: [Users] Revisiting the socket_dir $TMPDIR issue
In-Reply-To: <20141106131404.3383a0d5@gmx.net>
References: <20141104193539.343c5eb1@gmx.net>
 <20141106091805.1c1c9b89@colin.i-run.lau>
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Message-ID: <20141106151915.668e3d91@colin.i-run.lau>

On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 13:14:04 +0100, Michael Schwendt
<bugreporter at abwesend.de> wrote:

> At Fedora some people still think that Claws Mail should hardcode a
> directory for the socket file. That would avoid the problem
> altogether, but I don't know why the file is put into system tmpdir
> instead.

This is a valid point, this would simplify stuff.
I seem to remember we preferred not to do that because some people
share their config on dual-boot machines where .claws-mail is on a
Windows filesystem, and doesn't support sockets.

I'm not sure that use-case is very important.
-- 
Colin
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From clifflaine at europe.com  Thu Nov  6 15:31:37 2014
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 14:31:37 +0000
Subject: [Users] 3.11.1 new feeds not marked or appearing
In-Reply-To: <20141106113957.4218f13b@linux-l0lu>
References: <20141105193643.143ba972@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20141106090206.4230a034@linux-l0lu>
 <20141106104825.309c9419@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20141106113957.4218f13b@linux-l0lu>
Message-ID: <20141106143137.574ccf88@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 11:39:57 +0000
Graham P Davis <newsboy at scarlet-jade.com> wrote:

> 
> I've got it working again - so
> far - this way:
> 
> Shut down Claws.
> Replace ~/.claws-mail/RSSyl with a backup version from 3.10.
> Restart Claws.
> 
> After the restart, I got all tghe feeds topped up automatiacally with
> "new" stuff, i.e. that received since since the old copy was last
> used.
> 
> In the ~/.claws-mail/RSSyl folder, all the feed folders apart from
> obsolete ones had been moved into the new "My Feeds" folder. 
> 
> I think the problems I had were due to using a beta copy of 3.11
> (3.10.98?) before stepping up to the operational 3.11.1.
> 

Alas, I didn't back up my feeds from 3.10, but this is how I got it
working: 

Save the opml somewhere.

With CM open, delete the first child folder (mine calls itself, with a
childish attention-seeking shout, "FEEDS").

Right click on the parent folder ("My Feeds") and import an opml file.

Everything seems to be OK now.

Cliff


From lane at duphy4.physics.drexel.edu  Thu Nov  6 15:32:54 2014
From: lane at duphy4.physics.drexel.edu (Charles Lane)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:32:54 -0500
Subject: [Users] feature request
Message-ID: <20141106093254.06417cad@wombat5>

Sorry if this has come up and been disposed of
previously.  The circumstance is a case where
one is replying to a message, and one wishes
to attach other email messages ...

Yes, you can click away from the reply, 
save the other messages to a file, then
attach the file.  But couldn't it all be
handled *within* Claws mail?  (So not 
just a "attach a file" but also an "attach a
message" option) 
-- 
 Drexel University    \V               --Chuck Lane
======]---------->-----*------<--------[===========
     (215) 895-1545   / \_/*~~~~~  Particle Physics
FAX: (215) 895-1281  lane at duphy4.physics.drexel.edu


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 15:41:34 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 14:41:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] feature request
In-Reply-To: <20141106093254.06417cad@wombat5>
References: <20141106093254.06417cad@wombat5>
Message-ID: <20141106144134.75bf8540@thewildbeast>

On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:32:54 -0500
Charles Lane <lane at duphy4.physics.drexel.edu> wrote: 

> Sorry if this has come up and been disposed of
> previously.  The circumstance is a case where
> one is replying to a message, and one wishes
> to attach other email messages ...
> 
> Yes, you can click away from the reply, 
> save the other messages to a file, then
> attach the file.  But couldn't it all be
> handled *within* Claws mail?  (So not 
> just a "attach a file" but also an "attach a
> message" option) 

Use drag'n'drop of the mime icons just to the right of the message
view.

with regards

Paul


-- 
Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières


From sylpheed at 911networks.com  Thu Nov  6 15:47:55 2014
From: sylpheed at 911networks.com (sylpheed at 911networks.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 06:47:55 -0800
Subject: [Users] 3.11.1 new feeds not marked or appearing
In-Reply-To: <20141106090206.4230a034@linux-l0lu>
References: <20141105193643.143ba972@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20141106090206.4230a034@linux-l0lu>
Message-ID: <20141106064755.09a42d61@frogguski.911networks.com>

On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:02:06 +0000
Graham P Davis <newsboy at scarlet-jade.com> wrote:

>
>Yes, I've got that as well. The problem seems to be related to a
>change in the storage of of the folders and feeds. Whereas - in
>Linux at any rate - in 3.10 the folders are in "~/.claws/RSSyl", in
>3.11 they are in  "~/.claws/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)". 

I'm on 3.11.1 and I just checked:

All my RSSyl are under: ~/.claws-mail/RSSyl/

But I have a also a whole bunch of empty directories:

Comments on: A Sticky Topic:
Comments on: Camera Raw 5.7 and Lightroom 2.7 Available on Adobe Labs:
Comments on: Camera Raw 6.0 Now Shipping as part of CS5 (With Important Caveat):
Comments on: Camera Raw 6.1 Now Available:
Comments on: Camera Raw 6.1 Release Candidate Available on Adobe Labs:
Comments on: George Jardine on the Lightroom 3 Develop Module:
Comments on: George Jardine publishes new Lightroom 3 Tutorials:

and plenty of others. 

I also cechk the feed properties: Fetch Comments if possible and they
are all not checked.

-- 
sknahT

vyS


From ivan.nazarenko at gmail.com  Thu Nov  6 17:00:27 2014
From: ivan.nazarenko at gmail.com (Ivan Nazarenko)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 14:00:27 -0200
Subject: [Users] Order of filters?
In-Reply-To: <20140209112354.4e41452d@thewildbeast>
References: <20140209111047.1eba4f40@frank01.frankly3d.home>
 <20140209112354.4e41452d@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141106140027.2cb20f0a@ivan-4770>

With some loss, though. The default "bogofilter as a filtering rule" setup do not direct email to the unsure folder. It instead mixes all unsure and ham together.

Is there a way to keep a functional unsure folder with bogofilter in the rules? I scanned this mail list and the Fine Manual, and have not found it.

Regards,

Ivan


On Sun, 9 Feb 2014 11:23:54 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 9 Feb 2014 11:10:47 +0000
> Frank Murphy <frankly3d at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> > I have created a _delete filter set up on top of filter(s)
> > For the usual *linkedin,*badoo etc.. crap emails.
> > 
> > How can I ensure that is run before
> > bogofilter\spam processing
> > as I don't want them in spam,
> > just gone.
> 
> The spam plugins always run before the filtering. If you want to
> change that you can run bogofilter as a filtering rule instead of
> using the plugin.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> -- 
> Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users


From andrej at kacian.sk  Thu Nov  6 18:00:48 2014
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 18:00:48 +0100
Subject: [Users] Revisiting the socket_dir $TMPDIR issue
In-Reply-To: <20141106151915.668e3d91@colin.i-run.lau>
References: <20141104193539.343c5eb1@gmx.net>
 <20141106091805.1c1c9b89@colin.i-run.lau>
 <20141106131404.3383a0d5@gmx.net>
 <20141106151915.668e3d91@colin.i-run.lau>
Message-ID: <20141106180048.6e52692a@penny>

On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 15:19:15 +0100
Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:

> I seem to remember we preferred not to do that because some people
> share their config on dual-boot machines where .claws-mail is on a
> Windows filesystem, and doesn't support sockets.
> 
> I'm not sure that use-case is very important.

I'm sure it is important for the people who use such setup. :)

-- 
Andrej
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From andrej at kacian.sk  Thu Nov  6 18:05:27 2014
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 18:05:27 +0100
Subject: [Users] 3.11.1 new feeds not marked or appearing
In-Reply-To: <20141105193643.143ba972@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20141105193643.143ba972@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20141106180527.2ebf880d@penny>

On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 19:36:43 +0000
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote:

> Has anyone else found that updated newsfeeds fail to get picked up by
> 3.11.1?
> 
> My friend has updated her blog five minutes ago. Liferea picks it up
> but not Claws, not even when I manually refresh the feeds. I thought
> it had gone quiet in my suburb of the blogsphere!

Hello,

if you right-click on the feed folder, are options "Refresh feed" and
"Feed properties" active, or grayed out?

If they are grayed out, then the folder has been "degraded" to a
regular folder (not a feed anymore), and the migration to new
storage format did not go as planned, for which I apologize.

-- 
Andrej


From clifflaine at europe.com  Thu Nov  6 18:23:18 2014
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 17:23:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] 3.11.1 new feeds not marked or appearing
In-Reply-To: <20141106180527.2ebf880d@penny>
References: <20141105193643.143ba972@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20141106180527.2ebf880d@penny>
Message-ID: <20141106172318.22ea5ab4@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 18:05:27 +0100
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> 
> Hello,
> 
> if you right-click on the feed folder, are options "Refresh feed" and
> "Feed properties" active, or grayed out?
> 
> If they are grayed out, then the folder has been "degraded" to a
> regular folder (not a feed anymore), and the migration to new
> storage format did not go as planned, for which I apologize.
> 

Yes, they are greyed out. Does that mean the feeds will never update?

Cliff


From linxt at comcast.net  Thu Nov  6 18:28:36 2014
From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:28:36 -0800
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141105184524.46bcff93@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141105091804.2060887b@desktop-1.home>
 <20141105173542.344f62af@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20141105184409.0ccfb43d@gmx.net>
 <20141105184524.46bcff93@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20141106092836.4b3dbac9@desktop-1.home>

On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 18:45:24 +0000
Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 18:44:09 +0100
> Michael Schwendt <bugreporter at abwesend.de> wrote:
> 
> Hello Michael,
> 
> >Preferences > Compose > Writing > Editing
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Sometimes, it seems as though CM has too many options.   :-)
> 
> It might be helpful to put the "launch directly" option and the choice
> of editor on the same page as they're likely to be used in conjunction.
> 

Thanks for the additional replies.

I had previously gone to the suggested location (see attached screenshot) and
ALL it shows is a checkbox to "automattically use external editor", NOT which
editor that is to be.

Where can I select WHICH editor that is to be (kate)?

Thanks, Tom

-- 
Failure seldom stops you. What stops you is the fear of failure.

  -  Jack Lemmon

^^  --...  ...--  / -.-  --.  --...  -.-.  ..-.  -.-.

^^^^
Tom Taylor  KG7CFC
openSUSE 13.1 (64-bit), Kernel 3.11.6-4-default,
KDE 4.11.2, AMD Phenom X4 955, GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Nvidia 337.19)
16GB RAM -- 3x1.5TB sata2 -- 128GB-SSD
FF 27.0, claws-mail 3.10.0
registered linux user 263467
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From linxt at comcast.net  Thu Nov  6 18:32:01 2014
From: linxt at comcast.net (Thomas Taylor)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:32:01 -0800
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141105173514.29ffc5c4@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141105173514.29ffc5c4@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20141106093201.4817afa4@desktop-1.home>

On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 17:35:14 +0000
Brad Rogers <brad at fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 21:41:36 -0500
> Charles Lehner <clm.cel at celehner.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Charles,
> 
> >There is an option to change the command used for external editor in 
> >Preferences/Message View/External Programs. A drop-down box could be
> >cool though.
> 
> Look again;  It's got one, accessed at the right hand side of the text
> gadget.
> 

What/where (is) text gadget?

Thanks, Tom

-- 
Failure seldom stops you. What stops you is the fear of failure.

  -  Jack Lemmon

^^  --...  ...--  / -.-  --.  --...  -.-.  ..-.  -.-.

^^^^
Tom Taylor  KG7CFC
openSUSE 13.1 (64-bit), Kernel 3.11.6-4-default,
KDE 4.11.2, AMD Phenom X4 955, GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Nvidia 337.19)
16GB RAM -- 3x1.5TB sata2 -- 128GB-SSD
FF 27.0, claws-mail 3.10.0
registered linux user 263467


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 18:39:05 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 17:39:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141106092836.4b3dbac9@desktop-1.home>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141105091804.2060887b@desktop-1.home>
 <20141105173542.344f62af@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20141105184409.0ccfb43d@gmx.net>
 <20141105184524.46bcff93@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20141106092836.4b3dbac9@desktop-1.home>
Message-ID: <20141106173905.5ff71c4a@thewildbeast>

On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:28:36 -0800
Thomas Taylor <linxt at comcast.net> wrote: 

> Thanks for the additional replies.
> 
> I had previously gone to the suggested location (see attached
> screenshot) and ALL it shows is a checkbox to "automattically use
> external editor", NOT which editor that is to be.
> 
> Where can I select WHICH editor that is to be (kate)?

Like Charles Lehner said in the original response, go to
Preferences/Message View/External Programs

with regards

Paul


-- 
Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières


From bugreporter at abwesend.de  Thu Nov  6 18:48:55 2014
From: bugreporter at abwesend.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 18:48:55 +0100
Subject: [Users] Revisiting the socket_dir $TMPDIR issue
In-Reply-To: <20141106180048.6e52692a@penny>
References: <20141104193539.343c5eb1@gmx.net>
 <20141106091805.1c1c9b89@colin.i-run.lau>
 <20141106131404.3383a0d5@gmx.net>
 <20141106151915.668e3d91@colin.i-run.lau>
 <20141106180048.6e52692a@penny>
Message-ID: <20141106184855.741a98da@gmx.net>

On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 18:00:48 +0100, Andrej Kacian wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 15:19:15 +0100
> Colin Leroy wrote:
> 
> > I seem to remember we preferred not to do that because some people
> > share their config on dual-boot machines where .claws-mail is on a
> > Windows filesystem, and doesn't support sockets.
> > 
> > I'm not sure that use-case is very important.
> 
> I'm sure it is important for the people who use such setup. :)

Hmmm, get_rc_dir() is based on get_home_dir() which constructs the
clawsrc path from $HOME.

However they do it then, maybe with a symlink or a windows fs mounted
directly on ~/.claws-mail, does that really work even with slash-separator
based paths in the clawsrc file for plugins? If I here change the path of
pgpmime.so, it isn't loaded anymore. What happens on Windows, if it runs
into plugin paths created on Linux?

Also, is ~/.claws-mail/tmp platform-independent?

Meaning, the default path of the socket file could be hardcoded, albeit
with an option to modify it at runtime (not via $TMPDIR).


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 18:53:45 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 17:53:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] Order of filters?
In-Reply-To: <20141106140027.2cb20f0a@ivan-4770>
References: <20140209111047.1eba4f40@frank01.frankly3d.home>
 <20140209112354.4e41452d@thewildbeast>
 <20141106140027.2cb20f0a@ivan-4770>
Message-ID: <20141106175345.73e46fe4@thewildbeast>

On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 14:00:27 -0200
Ivan Nazarenko <ivan.nazarenko at gmail.com> wrote: 

> With some loss, though. The default "bogofilter as a filtering
> rule" setup do not direct email to the unsure folder. It instead
> mixes all unsure and ham together.
> 
> Is there a way to keep a functional unsure folder with bogofilter
> in the rules? I scanned this mail list and the Fine Manual, and
> have not found it.

I use the plugin, so am not speaking from experience but you should
be able to use the -p and -U options with bogofilter and then place a
rule following that which checks the Spamicity header.

with regards

Paul


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From brad at fineby.me.uk  Thu Nov  6 19:07:00 2014
From: brad at fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 18:07:00 +0000
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141106093201.4817afa4@desktop-1.home>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141105173514.29ffc5c4@abydos.stargate.org.uk>
 <20141106093201.4817afa4@desktop-1.home>
Message-ID: <20141106180700.1e4e226e@abydos.stargate.org.uk>

On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:32:01 -0800
Thomas Taylor <linxt at comcast.net> wrote:

Hello Thomas,

>What/where (is) text gadget?

I may have misnamed it, but it's where you enter text to call a specific
editor;
"Configuration menu, Preferences... -> Message View -> External programs
-> Text editor"

If it's not one of the ones available (most are) from the drop list at
the right hand side.

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From ivan.nazarenko at gmail.com  Thu Nov  6 19:22:31 2014
From: ivan.nazarenko at gmail.com (Ivan Nazarenko)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 16:22:31 -0200
Subject: [Users] Order of filters?
In-Reply-To: <20141106175345.73e46fe4@thewildbeast>
References: <20140209111047.1eba4f40@frank01.frankly3d.home>
 <20140209112354.4e41452d@thewildbeast>
 <20141106140027.2cb20f0a@ivan-4770>
 <20141106175345.73e46fe4@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141106162231.5cbfc464@ivan-4770>

Made a little bit different solution, based on your idea:

- Kept the plugin. Told plugin to add bogosity header.
- Added filter on X_Bogosity: Unsure to move to unsure. The spam was already in trash, moved by the plugin.
- Get rid of the bogofilter rules. 

Pretty obvious now, after doing it.

Thank you for the help.

Ragards,

Ivan



On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 17:53:45 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 14:00:27 -0200
> Ivan Nazarenko <ivan.nazarenko at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> > With some loss, though. The default "bogofilter as a filtering
> > rule" setup do not direct email to the unsure folder. It instead
> > mixes all unsure and ham together.
> > 
> > Is there a way to keep a functional unsure folder with bogofilter
> > in the rules? I scanned this mail list and the Fine Manual, and
> > have not found it.
> 
> I use the plugin, so am not speaking from experience but you should
> be able to use the -p and -U options with bogofilter and then place a
> rule following that which checks the Spamicity header.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> -- 
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From lane at duphy4.physics.drexel.edu  Thu Nov  6 19:31:50 2014
From: lane at duphy4.physics.drexel.edu (Charles Lane)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 13:31:50 -0500
Subject: [Users] feature request
In-Reply-To: <20141106144134.75bf8540@thewildbeast>
References: <20141106093254.06417cad@wombat5>
 <20141106144134.75bf8540@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141106133150.5b76ee57@wombat5>

Aha! Thanks very much.

Drag/drop wasn't working for me, because
I normally have Claws "full screen", so when 
you click to drag, the composition window
is hidden. I still think it would be useful
(requiring less mouse-fu) to have a 
"attach message(s)" menu item. 



On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 14:41:34 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:32:54 -0500
> Charles Lane <lane at duphy4.physics.drexel.edu> wrote: 
> 
> > Sorry if this has come up and been disposed of
> > previously.  The circumstance is a case where
> > one is replying to a message, and one wishes
> > to attach other email messages ...
> > 
> > Yes, you can click away from the reply, 
> > save the other messages to a file, then
> > attach the file.  But couldn't it all be
> > handled *within* Claws mail?  (So not 
> > just a "attach a file" but also an "attach a
> > message" option) 
> 
> Use drag'n'drop of the mime icons just to the right of the message
> view.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> 
> 



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From clifflaine at europe.com  Thu Nov  6 19:42:13 2014
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 18:42:13 +0000
Subject: [Users] 3.11.1 new feeds not marked or appearing
In-Reply-To: <20141106172318.22ea5ab4@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20141105193643.143ba972@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20141106180527.2ebf880d@penny>
 <20141106172318.22ea5ab4@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20141106184213.0d903861@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 17:23:18 +0000
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 18:05:27 +0100
> Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > if you right-click on the feed folder, are options "Refresh feed"
> > and "Feed properties" active, or grayed out?
> > 
> > If they are grayed out, then the folder has been "degraded" to a
> > regular folder (not a feed anymore), and the migration to new
> > storage format did not go as planned, for which I apologize.
> > 
> 
> Yes, they are greyed out. Does that mean the feeds will never update?
> 

Update: It appears that they won't. All updated feeds are failing to
show.

Cliff

P.S. Don't apologise Andrej -- I'm very grateful to you and the others
for your efforts in producing the best email client going.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 20:15:04 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 19:15:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] feature request
In-Reply-To: <20141106133150.5b76ee57@wombat5>
References: <20141106093254.06417cad@wombat5>
 <20141106144134.75bf8540@thewildbeast>
 <20141106133150.5b76ee57@wombat5>
Message-ID: <20141106191504.46691fc2@thewildbeast>

On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 13:31:50 -0500
Charles Lane <lane at duphy4.physics.drexel.edu> wrote: 

> Drag/drop wasn't working for me, because
> I normally have Claws "full screen", so when 
> you click to drag, the composition window
> is hidden. I still think it would be useful
> (requiring less mouse-fu) to have a 
> "attach message(s)" menu item.

Something like selecting several messages in a folder, right-clicking
and choosing 'Forward as attachment'??

with regards

Paul


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From andrej at kacian.sk  Thu Nov  6 20:17:11 2014
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 20:17:11 +0100
Subject: [Users] 3.11.1 new feeds not marked or appearing
In-Reply-To: <20141106184213.0d903861@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20141105193643.143ba972@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20141106180527.2ebf880d@penny>
 <20141106172318.22ea5ab4@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20141106184213.0d903861@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20141106201711.0e06a628@penny>

On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 18:42:13 +0000
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote:

> P.S. Don't apologise Andrej -- I'm very grateful to you and the others
> for your efforts in producing the best email client going.

It's just that I spent a few hours testing this upgrade with every
combination of feeds and folders I could imagine, and few other fellow
developers tested it on my request as well, and I thought I caught
every bug in it. Apparently not. :/

-- 
Andrej


From lane at duphy4.physics.drexel.edu  Fri Nov  7 01:28:04 2014
From: lane at duphy4.physics.drexel.edu (Charles Lane)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 19:28:04 -0500
Subject: [Users] feature request
In-Reply-To: <20141106191504.46691fc2@thewildbeast>
References: <20141106093254.06417cad@wombat5>
 <20141106144134.75bf8540@thewildbeast>
 <20141106133150.5b76ee57@wombat5>
 <20141106191504.46691fc2@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141106192804.79c87b2a@wombat5>

On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 19:15:04 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 13:31:50 -0500
> Charles Lane <lane at duphy4.physics.drexel.edu> wrote: 
> 
> > Drag/drop wasn't working for me, because
> > I normally have Claws "full screen", so when 
> > you click to drag, the composition window
> > is hidden. I still think it would be useful
> > (requiring less mouse-fu) to have a 
> > "attach message(s)" menu item.
> 
> Something like selecting several messages in a folder, right-clicking
> and choosing 'Forward as attachment'??

That sounds useful, but it's the "reply to message A,
and attach message B" that I was thinking of. 
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 11:15:50 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 10:15:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3322] New: claws-mail crashes when clicking on
 malformed PNG attachment
Message-ID: <bug-3322-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3322

            Bug ID: 3322
           Summary: claws-mail crashes when clicking on malformed PNG
                    attachment
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: other
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message View
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: hanno at hboeck.de

When I open a mail with a malformed PNG attached it will crash claws-mail. This
is what the console output says:
(claws-mail:11865): Claws-Mail-WARNING **: Failed to load image
'/home/hanno/.claws-mail/mimetmp/00000007.2670-sample.png': Fatal error in PNG
image file: Read Error


(claws-mail:11865): Claws-Mail-WARNING **: Can't load the image.
**
GdkPixbuf:ERROR:/var/tmp/portage/x11-libs/gdk-pixbuf-2.30.8/work/gdk-pixbuf-2.30.8/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf-animation.c:250:gdk_pixbuf_animation_new_from_file:
assertion failed: (animation)


Looks to me as first claws detects that the PNG has errors, however it will
still try to open it via gdk-pixbuf and there the crash happens.

Steps to reproduce:
* Take attached PNG image, send a mail to yourself with file attached
* Open mail, click on PNG attachment

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 11:16:11 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 10:16:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3322] claws-mail crashes when clicking on malformed
 PNG attachment
In-Reply-To: <bug-3322-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3322-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3322-595-UQbqMLjiIK@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3322

--- Comment #1 from Hanno Boeck <hanno at hboeck.de> ---
Created attachment 1447
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1447&action=edit
malformed png file

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 11:23:31 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 10:23:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3323] New: claws-mail.org and thewildbeast.co.uk have
 no valid certificate
Message-ID: <bug-3323-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3323

            Bug ID: 3323
           Summary: claws-mail.org and thewildbeast.co.uk have no valid
                    certificate
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Website
           Version: unspecified
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: General
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: hanno at hboeck.de

These days the web is more and more going to https (with google pushing a lot).

The Website of claws-mail and also the bugtracker are only available with a
self-signed certificate. I think there should be a way to log into the bug
tracker with a valid certificate.

It is possible today to get certificates for free (startssl) that are accepted
in all mainstream browsers so I think there's no need to use self-signed certs.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 11:52:57 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 10:52:57 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3323] claws-mail.org and thewildbeast.co.uk have no
 valid certificate
In-Reply-To: <bug-3323-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3323-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3323-595-GmFlldfFZ1@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3323

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
I see you are a fan of illusion of security. That's all you're really getting
with "official" certificate authorities.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 11:56:43 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 10:56:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3323] claws-mail.org and thewildbeast.co.uk have no
 valid certificate
In-Reply-To: <bug-3323-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3323-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3323-595-q5L10zAUFZ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3323

--- Comment #2 from Hanno Boeck <hanno at hboeck.de> ---
I'm well aware of the problems of certificate authorities, however it's a
reality that they are the only usable system out there. If you're looking for
something improved you could consider adding a HTTP Public Key Pinning Header.

However, I would mainly welcome a "valid" cert for convenience.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 12:26:04 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 11:26:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3322] claws-mail crashes when clicking on malformed
 PNG attachment
In-Reply-To: <bug-3322-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3322-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3322-595-PxRhblBjw8@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3322

--- Comment #2 from Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at gmail.com> ---
> gdk_pixbuf_animation_new_from_file: assertion failed: (animation)

    animation = gdk_pixbuf_animation_new_from_file(imgfile, &error);

gdk-pixbuf should not crash upon trying to detect the file contents. The two
args given to gdk_pixbuf_animation_new_from_file() are still valid, especially
the "imgfile" file name ptr, and it crashes later in an assertion:

gdk-pixbuf-animation.c
   247  
   248                  if (success) {
   249                          /* If there was no error, there must be an
anima
tion that was successfully loaded */
   250                          g_assert (animation);
   251                  } else {
   252                          if (animation) {

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From newsboy at scarlet-jade.com  Fri Nov  7 12:32:11 2014
From: newsboy at scarlet-jade.com (Graham P Davis)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 11:32:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] "Put deleted messages in . . . " ignored
Message-ID: <20141107113211.5b0212e0@linux-l0lu>

Instead of dumping all my deleted messages in the same waste-bin, I
decided to configure my accounts to use their own trash-cans. To verify
that it worked, I set up a new trash folder and edited an account to
"put deleted messages in . . ." the new folder. Unfortunately, I
verified that it didn't work. Deleted messages still went in the
general trash and my new folder remained disappointingly empty.

Is there something I've missed in setting this up or does it just not
work?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 12:32:47 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 11:32:47 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3322] claws-mail crashes when clicking on malformed
 PNG attachment
In-Reply-To: <bug-3322-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3322-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3322-595-OFPksjGOWc@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3322

--- Comment #3 from Hanno Boeck <hanno at hboeck.de> ---
maybe this is this?
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=695228

Seems a fix was committed over a year ago but it wasn't backported to the
stable release.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 12:36:27 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 11:36:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3322] claws-mail crashes when clicking on malformed
 PNG attachment
In-Reply-To: <bug-3322-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3322-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3322-595-XeR8UhQhAH@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3322

--- Comment #4 from Hanno Boeck <hanno at hboeck.de> ---
Sorry, I was wrong. The upstream fix seems to be applied already on my version,
so this is probably another issue. Will try to create a small testcase.

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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Fri Nov  7 12:37:17 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:37:17 +0100
Subject: [Users] Filtering spam
Message-ID: <20141107123717.579ab93a@archlinux>

Hi,

I use the Bogofilter plugin to move Spam to #mh/Claws Mail/Spam. As a
side note, when I renamed the folder from #mh/Claws Mail/Junk to
#mh/Claws Mail/Spam, I had to manually edit the preferences, while
renaming a folder for the filters, the new name automatically is taken
over.

A filter

spam & from matchcase ".com"
move "#mh/Claws Mail/Spam/Junk .com" stop

doesn't work when receiving the mails, they still will be moved to
#mh/Claws Mail/Spam.

If I manually "Filter all mails in folder", this filter works.

I assume that if I would use the following filter instead

spam & from matchcase ".com"
mark_as_ham move "#mh/Claws Mail/Spam/Junk .com" stop

it likely also wouldnt do it's job and in addition it would train
Bogofilter to detect those mails as _not_ beeing spam in the future,
but Bogofilter should detected those mails as spam in the future too.

How can I filter spam to different spam folders using POP accounts
with Claws Mail 3.11.1-12-g22f9e2e?

It seems to be similar to this
http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2014-November/011365.html ,
but I don't understand what to do.

Perhaps something like
test "bogofilter-foo-bar"
mark_as_spam
?

However, when I installed Claws I sent a request to the list and ask if
it's possible to sort as I want to do it now. I got the reply that it
can be done. I can't find a tutorial how to do that. Perhaps I should
have ask for a _user-friendly_ way to do it with Claws. A solution for
nerds is quite useless for me.

I suspect that processing rules could do that, but they also don't do
it automatically, but just when selecting a folder?

Regards,
Ralf


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Fri Nov  7 12:46:02 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:46:02 +0100
Subject: [Users] Filtering spam
In-Reply-To: <20141107123717.579ab93a@archlinux>
References: <20141107123717.579ab93a@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141107124602.595613a3@archlinux>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:37:17 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:
> I assume that if I would use the following filter instead
> 
> spam & from matchcase ".com"
> mark_as_ham move "#mh/Claws Mail/Spam/Junk .com" stop
> 
> it likely also wouldnt do it's job

Yes, then the mails are moved to trash instead, but they are still
marked as spam.

PS and OT: Would a X-Bogosity header entry be removed, when such a mail
intended manually get's marked as _not_ being spam?


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 13:05:44 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:05:44 +0000
Subject: [Users] "Put deleted messages in . . . " ignored
In-Reply-To: <20141107113211.5b0212e0@linux-l0lu>
References: <20141107113211.5b0212e0@linux-l0lu>
Message-ID: <20141107120544.3ddb270a@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 11:32:11 +0000
Graham P Davis <newsboy at scarlet-jade.com> wrote: 

> Unfortunately, I
> verified that it didn't work. Deleted messages still went in the
> general trash and my new folder remained disappointingly empty.

How did you verify it didn't work? What sort of accounts/mailboxes
are you talking about?

with regards

Paul


-- 
Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Fri Nov  7 13:27:14 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 13:27:14 +0100
Subject: [Users] "Put deleted messages in . . . " ignored
In-Reply-To: <20141107120544.3ddb270a@thewildbeast>
References: <20141107113211.5b0212e0@linux-l0lu>
 <20141107120544.3ddb270a@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <1415363234.1189.1.camel@rocketmail.com>

On Fri, 2014-11-07 at 12:05 +0000, Paul wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 11:32:11 +0000
> Graham P Davis <newsboy at scarlet-jade.com> wrote: 
> 
> > Unfortunately, I
> > verified that it didn't work. Deleted messages still went in the
> > general trash and my new folder remained disappointingly empty.
> 
> How did you verify it didn't work? What sort of accounts/mailboxes
> are you talking about?

Some filters are tricky, for me not only the junk folder issue, but also
a Sent folder replacement filter, for mails that after sending should
neither appear in a folder for e.g. mailing lists, nor in the default
Send folder, only work when using them manually by

Tools > Filter all messages in filter

but not automatically.

Too funny, while the Inbox can be selected by the account settings,
using a filter that can be activated on demand automatically works.

I'm still uncertain if I will switch from Evolution to Claws. Claws is
much faster, doesn't suffer from GTK3 upgrades, but OTOH, Evolution can
do several things much better than Claws, or at least it can be done
intuitive, perhaps for Claws much know-how is needed, that isn't
available by the manual PDF.



From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Fri Nov  7 13:28:32 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 13:28:32 +0100
Subject: [Users] "Put deleted messages in . . . " ignored
In-Reply-To: <1415363234.1189.1.camel@rocketmail.com>
References: <20141107113211.5b0212e0@linux-l0lu>
 <20141107120544.3ddb270a@thewildbeast>
 <1415363234.1189.1.camel@rocketmail.com>
Message-ID: <1415363312.1189.2.camel@rocketmail.com>

On Fri, 2014-11-07 at 13:27 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-11-07 at 12:05 +0000, Paul wrote:
> > On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 11:32:11 +0000
> > Graham P Davis <newsboy at scarlet-jade.com> wrote: 
> > 
> > > Unfortunately, I
> > > verified that it didn't work. Deleted messages still went in the
> > > general trash and my new folder remained disappointingly empty.
> > 
> > How did you verify it didn't work? What sort of accounts/mailboxes
> > are you talking about?
> 
> Some filters are tricky, for me not only the junk folder issue, but also
> a Sent folder replacement filter, for mails that after sending should
> neither appear in a folder for e.g. mailing lists, nor in the default
> Send folder, only work when using them manually by
> 
> Tools > Filter all messages in filter
> 
> but not automatically.
> 
> Too funny, while the Inbox can be selected by the account settings,
> using a filter that can be activated on demand automatically works.

To use an alternative Inbox instead ;).

> I'm still uncertain if I will switch from Evolution to Claws. Claws is
> much faster, doesn't suffer from GTK3 upgrades, but OTOH, Evolution can
> do several things much better than Claws, or at least it can be done
> intuitive, perhaps for Claws much know-how is needed, that isn't
> available by the manual PDF.




From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 13:33:35 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:33:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] "Put deleted messages in . . . " ignored
In-Reply-To: <1415363234.1189.1.camel@rocketmail.com>
References: <20141107113211.5b0212e0@linux-l0lu>
 <20141107120544.3ddb270a@thewildbeast>
 <1415363234.1189.1.camel@rocketmail.com>
Message-ID: <20141107123335.4ab325ae@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 07 Nov 2014 13:27:14 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 

> I'm still uncertain if I will switch from Evolution to Claws. Claws
> is much faster, doesn't suffer from GTK3 upgrades, but OTOH,
> Evolution can do several things much better than Claws, or at least
> it can be done intuitive, perhaps for Claws much know-how is
> needed, that isn't available by the manual PDF.

If it's simplicity that you want with regard to spam checking, then
use the bogofilter plugin and stop making it difficult for
yourself ;)

with regards

Paul


-- 
Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Fri Nov  7 13:39:50 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 13:39:50 +0100
Subject: [Users] OT:  "Put deleted messages in . . . " ignored
In-Reply-To: <20141107123335.4ab325ae@thewildbeast>
References: <20141107113211.5b0212e0@linux-l0lu>
 <20141107120544.3ddb270a@thewildbeast>
 <1415363234.1189.1.camel@rocketmail.com>
 <20141107123335.4ab325ae@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141107133950.15d8cbef@archlinux>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:33:35 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> If it's simplicity that you want with regard to spam checking, then
> use the bogofilter plugin and stop making it difficult for
> yourself ;)

That's another thread, anyway, I'm using Bogofilter and when I apply
the filters manually by the Tool menu they do work. I need to sort
some spams, I need several folders, there's no other way to handle
some spam attacks. I'm not making it difficult, it's the only way to
handle it and a MUA should provide the ability to automatically
sort spam to different folders.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 13:49:49 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:49:49 +0000
Subject: [Users] Filtering spam
In-Reply-To: <20141107123717.579ab93a@archlinux>
References: <20141107123717.579ab93a@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141107124949.16bf4bf6@thewildbeast>

First, I'm finding it hard to follow your meaning...

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:37:17 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 

> A filter
> 
> spam & from matchcase ".com"
> move "#mh/Claws Mail/Spam/Junk .com" stop
> 
> doesn't work when receiving the mails, they still will be moved to
> #mh/Claws Mail/Spam.
> 
> If I manually "Filter all mails in folder", this filter works.

What do you mean by "works"? I suppose that you're still using the
bogofilter plugin, which would have already dealt with the message
before it even reaches this filter rule. i.e. it never reaches the
filter rule.

> I assume that if I would use the following filter instead
> 
> spam & from matchcase ".com"
> mark_as_ham move "#mh/Claws Mail/Spam/Junk .com" stop
> 
> it likely also wouldnt do it's job and in addition it would train
> Bogofilter to detect those mails as _not_ beeing spam in the future,
> but Bogofilter should detected those mails as spam in the future
> too.

Ummm....?

> How can I filter spam to different spam folders using POP accounts
> with Claws Mail 3.11.1-12-g22f9e2e?
> 
> It seems to be similar to this
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2014-November/011365.html ,
> but I don't understand what to do.
> 
> Perhaps something like
> test "bogofilter-foo-bar"
> mark_as_spam
> ?
> 
> However, when I installed Claws I sent a request to the list and
> ask if it's possible to sort as I want to do it now. I got the
> reply that it can be done. I can't find a tutorial how to do that.
> Perhaps I should have ask for a _user-friendly_ way to do it with
> Claws. A solution for nerds is quite useless for me.

Things get confusing when you mix up threads. You were calling
bogofilter from with a filtering rule. I was referring to other
bogofilter arguments. See `man bogofilter` and `bogofilter --help`
and it might become a little clearer.

> I suspect that processing rules could do that, but they also don't
> do it automatically, but just when selecting a folder?

http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Filtering_and_Processing_of_Messages#What_is_the_difference_between_Filtering.2C_Folder_Processing.2C_Pre.2FPost-processing.3F

with regards

Paul


-- 
Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières


From pf at pfortin.com  Fri Nov  7 14:04:22 2014
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 08:04:22 -0500
Subject: [Users] "Put deleted messages in . . . " ignored
In-Reply-To: <20141107113211.5b0212e0@linux-l0lu>
References: <20141107113211.5b0212e0@linux-l0lu>
Message-ID: <20141107080422.55ed3c4e@pfortin.com>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 11:32:11 +0000 Graham P Davis wrote:

>Instead of dumping all my deleted messages in the same waste-bin, I
>decided to configure my accounts to use their own trash-cans. To
>verify that it worked, I set up a new trash folder and edited an
>account to "put deleted messages in . . ." the new folder.
>Unfortunately, I verified that it didn't work. Deleted messages still
>went in the general trash and my new folder remained disappointingly
>empty.
>
>Is there something I've missed in setting this up or does it just not
>work?
>
Sounds like you set up ONE MH mailbox and added accounts when what you
want is to add one MH mailbox per account:

   File->Add mailbox->MH... (for each account - what you want)
      (On initial setup, Claws adds the first account [1])
      Add account & change the Account->Receive->Default inbox to 
      point to the correct MH mailbox
v.
   one MH mailbox (what you did):
      Configuration->create new account...
   or
      Configuration->Edit accounts...->New

It should look like this:
  Account1 (MH) [1]
    Inbox
    ...
    Trash
  Account2 (MH)
    Inbox
    ...
    Trash

instead of simply:
  Mail (MH) [1]
    Inbox
    ...
    Trash

[1] on initial setup, you had the option to change Mail to Account1
    You can't rename a mailbox; but you can add one per account, naming
    them, then delete "Mail (MH)" (after moving your messages to
    appropriate account mailboxes).

HTH
Pierre


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Fri Nov  7 14:14:08 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:14:08 +0100
Subject: [Users] Filtering spam
In-Reply-To: <20141107124949.16bf4bf6@thewildbeast>
References: <20141107123717.579ab93a@archlinux>
 <20141107124949.16bf4bf6@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141107141408.1da1255d@archlinux>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:49:49 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:37:17 +0100
> Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> > A filter
> > 
> > spam & from matchcase ".com"
> > move "#mh/Claws Mail/Spam/Junk .com" stop
> > 
> > doesn't work when receiving the mails, they still will be moved to
> > #mh/Claws Mail/Spam.
> > 
> > If I manually "Filter all mails in folder", this filter works.
> 
> What do you mean by "works"? I suppose that you're still using the
> bogofilter plugin, which would have already dealt with the message
> before it even reaches this filter rule. i.e. it never reaches the
> filter rule.

English isn't my native language, I'm sorry for the broken English.

If I select the Spam folder that is used by the Bogofilter
#mh/Claws Mail/Spam
and then use the menu  Tools > Filter all messages in folder  then
the .com spam mails are moved to #mh/Claws Mail/Spam/Junk .com .

> > spam & from matchcase ".com"
> > mark_as_ham move "#mh/Claws Mail/Spam/Junk .com" stop

> Ummm....?

Unimportant, but JFTR, then the mails are moved to Trash, neither to
the selected default folder #mh/Claws Mail/Spam, nor the the wanted
#mh/Claws Mail/Spam/Junk .com, resp. using the Tools menu does "work"
as described above too.

> > http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2014-November/011365.html ,

> You were calling
> bogofilter from with a filtering rule. I was referring to other
> bogofilter arguments. See `man bogofilter` and `bogofilter --help`
> and it might become a little clearer.

I searched the archive, before I sent my request ;). The above isn't my
thread, I didn't do this. With my thread (this one) I'm asking, if this
is a way to archive what I want to work automatically, instead of using
the Tools menu manually.

> > I suspect that processing rules could do that, but they also don't
> > do it automatically, but just when selecting a folder?
> 
> http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Filtering_and_Processing_of_Messages#What_is_the_difference_between_Filtering.2C_Folder_Processing.2C_Pre.2FPost-processing.3F

"Filtering rules are global. Messages received on an Account can be
filtered in 2 ways, automatically or manually. To have the messages
filtered automatically the option 'Filter messages on receiving' must
be checked on the 'Receive' tab in the Account Preferences."

Strange, since all filters for receiving mails, excepted of the Spam
filters do work as expected, anyway, I'll now checked it, resp.
"After receiving new mail [x] Update all local folders" now is checked.

Regards,
Ralf


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Fri Nov  7 14:24:51 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:24:51 +0100
Subject: [Users] Filtering spam
In-Reply-To: <20141107141408.1da1255d@archlinux>
References: <20141107123717.579ab93a@archlinux>
 <20141107124949.16bf4bf6@thewildbeast>
 <20141107141408.1da1255d@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141107142451.0cb670fe@archlinux>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:14:08 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:
> > http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Filtering_and_Processing_of_Messages#What_is_the_difference_between_Filtering.2C_Folder_Processing.2C_Pre.2FPost-processing.3F  
> 
> "Filtering rules are global. Messages received on an Account can be
> filtered in 2 ways, automatically or manually. To have the messages
> filtered automatically the option 'Filter messages on receiving' must
> be checked on the 'Receive' tab in the Account Preferences."  

That already is checked for the different accounts.

I confused it with the Claws preferences:
> Strange, since all filters for receiving mails, excepted of the Spam
> filters do work as expected, anyway, I'll now checked it, resp.
> "After receiving new mail [x] Update all local folders" now is
> checked.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 14:32:23 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 13:32:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] Filtering spam
In-Reply-To: <20141107141408.1da1255d@archlinux>
References: <20141107123717.579ab93a@archlinux>
 <20141107124949.16bf4bf6@thewildbeast>
 <20141107141408.1da1255d@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141107133223.3ac014e7@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:14:08 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 

> I searched the archive, before I sent my request ;). The above
> isn't my thread, I didn't do this. With my thread (this one) I'm
> asking, if this is a way to archive what I want to work
> automatically, instead of using the Tools menu manually.

By 'this' do you mean passing mails through bogofilter? By
'automatically' do you mean using the filtering on receive feature?

with regards

Paul


-- 
Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières


From ivan.nazarenko at gmail.com  Fri Nov  7 14:33:49 2014
From: ivan.nazarenko at gmail.com (Ivan Nazarenko)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 11:33:49 -0200
Subject: [Users] Filtering spam
In-Reply-To: <20141107141408.1da1255d@archlinux>
References: <20141107123717.579ab93a@archlinux>
 <20141107124949.16bf4bf6@thewildbeast>
 <20141107141408.1da1255d@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141107113349.11853ade@ivan-4770>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:14:08 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:49:49 +0000
> Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:37:17 +0100
> > Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 
> > 
> > > A filter
> > > 
> > > spam & from matchcase ".com"
> > > move "#mh/Claws Mail/Spam/Junk .com" stop
> > > 
> > > doesn't work when receiving the mails, they still will be moved to
> > > #mh/Claws Mail/Spam.
> > > 
> > > If I manually "Filter all mails in folder", this filter works.
> > 
> > What do you mean by "works"? I suppose that you're still using the
> > bogofilter plugin, which would have already dealt with the message
> > before it even reaches this filter rule. i.e. it never reaches the
> > filter rule.
> 
> English isn't my native language, I'm sorry for the broken English.
> 
> If I select the Spam folder that is used by the Bogofilter
> #mh/Claws Mail/Spam
> and then use the menu  Tools > Filter all messages in folder  then
> the .com spam mails are moved to #mh/Claws Mail/Spam/Junk .com .
> 
> > > spam & from matchcase ".com"
> > > mark_as_ham move "#mh/Claws Mail/Spam/Junk .com" stop
> 
> > Ummm....?
> 
> Unimportant, but JFTR, then the mails are moved to Trash, neither to
> the selected default folder #mh/Claws Mail/Spam, nor the the wanted
> #mh/Claws Mail/Spam/Junk .com, resp. using the Tools menu does "work"
> as described above too.

You can specify where the plugin will move your spam in Configuration -> Preferences -> Plugins -> Bogofilter. If you specify #mh/Claws Mail/Spam/Junk there, I suppose it will work.

Is that what you are looking for?

Regards,

Ivan


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 14:46:09 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 13:46:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] Filtering spam
In-Reply-To: <20141107142451.0cb670fe@archlinux>
References: <20141107123717.579ab93a@archlinux>
 <20141107124949.16bf4bf6@thewildbeast>
 <20141107141408.1da1255d@archlinux>
 <20141107142451.0cb670fe@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141107134609.73281601@thewildbeast>

Ralf,

How about using the Fetchinfo plugin, and using its headers for
matching in the filtering rules?

regards

Paul

-- 
Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Fri Nov  7 14:47:09 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:47:09 +0100
Subject: [Users] Filtering spam
In-Reply-To: <20141107133223.3ac014e7@thewildbeast>
References: <20141107123717.579ab93a@archlinux>
 <20141107124949.16bf4bf6@thewildbeast>
 <20141107141408.1da1255d@archlinux>
 <20141107133223.3ac014e7@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141107144709.6af7885b@archlinux>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 13:32:23 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:14:08 +0100
> Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> > I searched the archive, before I sent my request ;). The above
> > isn't my thread, I didn't do this. With my thread (this one) I'm
> > asking, if this is a way to archive what I want to work
> > automatically, instead of using the Tools menu manually.
> 
> By 'this' do you mean passing mails through bogofilter?

I don't understand what is done in this thread. I just asked.

> By 'automatically' do you mean using the filtering on receive feature?

What I want to get is, that when I receive mails and the Bogofilter
plugin marks a mail as spam, that mails that include ".com" in the
"From" header, are not moved to the folder selected by the Bogofilter
plugin preferences, but to another folder for spam.com.

IOW I've got a folder and a sub-folder

Spam
|
|--Spam.com

Automatically all spam mail is moved to the Spam folder.
If I use the Tools menu and apply the filters manually to the Spam
folder, they are moved to Spam.com. Moving to Spam.com should happen
automatically.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 14:56:14 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 13:56:14 +0000
Subject: [Users] Filtering spam
In-Reply-To: <20141107144709.6af7885b@archlinux>
References: <20141107123717.579ab93a@archlinux>
 <20141107124949.16bf4bf6@thewildbeast>
 <20141107141408.1da1255d@archlinux>
 <20141107133223.3ac014e7@thewildbeast>
 <20141107144709.6af7885b@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141107135614.607c4ad5@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:47:09 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 

> What I want to get is, that when I receive mails and the Bogofilter
> plugin marks a mail as spam, that mails that include ".com" in the
> "From" header, are not moved to the folder selected by the
> Bogofilter plugin preferences, but to another folder for spam.com.

You can use the bogofilter plugin AND do that.

Any mail that the bogofilter plugin determines is spam is already
dealt with. The message will not go through the filtering rules if it
has been determined to be spam by the bogofilter plugin.

To achieve what you want to achieve, you must unload the bogofilter
plugin, and use bogofilter via filtering rules instead.

with regards

Paul


-- 
Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 14:57:55 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 13:57:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] Filtering spam
In-Reply-To: <20141107135614.607c4ad5@thewildbeast>
References: <20141107123717.579ab93a@archlinux>
 <20141107124949.16bf4bf6@thewildbeast>
 <20141107141408.1da1255d@archlinux>
 <20141107133223.3ac014e7@thewildbeast>
 <20141107144709.6af7885b@archlinux>
 <20141107135614.607c4ad5@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141107135755.7662aefd@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 13:56:14 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote: 

> You can use the bogofilter plugin AND do that.

Sorry, I meant:

You cannot use the bogofilter plugin AND do that.

with regards

Paul


-- 
Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Fri Nov  7 15:04:36 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:04:36 +0100
Subject: [Users] Filtering spam
In-Reply-To: <20141107135614.607c4ad5@thewildbeast>
References: <20141107123717.579ab93a@archlinux>
 <20141107124949.16bf4bf6@thewildbeast>
 <20141107141408.1da1255d@archlinux>
 <20141107133223.3ac014e7@thewildbeast>
 <20141107144709.6af7885b@archlinux>
 <20141107135614.607c4ad5@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141107150436.477d8b0a@archlinux>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 13:56:14 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> To achieve what you want to achieve, you must unload the bogofilter
> plugin, and use bogofilter via filtering rules instead.

I don't know how to do that.

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 11:33:49 -0200
Ivan Nazarenko <ivan.nazarenko at gmail.com> wrote:
> You can specify where the plugin will move your spam in Configuration
> -> Preferences -> Plugins -> Bogofilter. If you specify #mh/Claws
> Mail/Spam/Junk there, I suppose it will work.

No, I want that mails with From headers including .com, .de and .ru are
moved to individual different spam folders.

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 13:46:09 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> How about using the Fetchinfo plugin, and using its headers for
> matching in the filtering rules?

Reading about "Fetchinfo" is something I will do later today or during
the weekend.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 15:10:38 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:10:38 +0000
Subject: [Users] Filtering spam
In-Reply-To: <20141107144709.6af7885b@archlinux>
References: <20141107123717.579ab93a@archlinux>
 <20141107124949.16bf4bf6@thewildbeast>
 <20141107141408.1da1255d@archlinux>
 <20141107133223.3ac014e7@thewildbeast>
 <20141107144709.6af7885b@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141107141038.6dfc3a8f@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:47:09 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 

> I don't understand what is done in this thread. I just asked.

Does this help?:
http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Using_Claws_Mail_with_other_programs#How_can_I_use_Claws_Mail_with_bogofilter.3F

with regards

Paul


-- 
Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Fri Nov  7 15:18:50 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:18:50 +0100
Subject: [Users] Filtering spam
In-Reply-To: <20141107141038.6dfc3a8f@thewildbeast>
References: <20141107123717.579ab93a@archlinux>
 <20141107124949.16bf4bf6@thewildbeast>
 <20141107141408.1da1255d@archlinux>
 <20141107133223.3ac014e7@thewildbeast>
 <20141107144709.6af7885b@archlinux>
 <20141107141038.6dfc3a8f@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141107151850.05da9f45@archlinux>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:10:38 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:47:09 +0100
> Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> > I don't understand what is done in this thread. I just asked.
> 
> Does this help?:
> http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Using_Claws_Mail_with_other_programs#How_can_I_use_Claws_Mail_with_bogofilter.3F

Doing it that way Claws doesn't provide a button to train Bogofilter?
With the plugin everything that was trained by Evolution, does work for
Claws too, and I can train Bogofilter using Claws learn button.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 15:23:47 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:23:47 +0000
Subject: [Users] Filtering spam
In-Reply-To: <20141107151850.05da9f45@archlinux>
References: <20141107123717.579ab93a@archlinux>
 <20141107124949.16bf4bf6@thewildbeast>
 <20141107141408.1da1255d@archlinux>
 <20141107133223.3ac014e7@thewildbeast>
 <20141107144709.6af7885b@archlinux>
 <20141107141038.6dfc3a8f@thewildbeast>
 <20141107151850.05da9f45@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141107142347.7125fd8d@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:18:50 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 

> Doing it that way Claws doesn't provide a button to train
> Bogofilter?

Actions can be added to the toolbar as buttons. See Toolbars
preferences.

with regards

Paul


-- 
Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 15:26:42 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 14:26:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3322] claws-mail crashes when clicking on malformed
 PNG attachment
In-Reply-To: <bug-3322-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3322-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3322-595-g7Ha0POcvA@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3322

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #5 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
closing this, as its not a Claws Mail bug.

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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Fri Nov  7 15:32:33 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:32:33 +0100
Subject: [Users] Filtering spam
In-Reply-To: <20141107142347.7125fd8d@thewildbeast>
References: <20141107123717.579ab93a@archlinux>
 <20141107124949.16bf4bf6@thewildbeast>
 <20141107141408.1da1255d@archlinux>
 <20141107133223.3ac014e7@thewildbeast>
 <20141107144709.6af7885b@archlinux>
 <20141107141038.6dfc3a8f@thewildbeast>
 <20141107151850.05da9f45@archlinux>
 <20141107142347.7125fd8d@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141107153233.12999447@archlinux>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:23:47 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:18:50 +0100
> Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> > Doing it that way Claws doesn't provide a button to train
> > Bogofilter?
> 
> Actions can be added to the toolbar as buttons. See Toolbars
> preferences.

A spam button is added, but without the plugin it can't be used. I don't
see how to enable running a command or script.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 15:38:12 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:38:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] Filtering spam
In-Reply-To: <20141107153233.12999447@archlinux>
References: <20141107123717.579ab93a@archlinux>
 <20141107124949.16bf4bf6@thewildbeast>
 <20141107141408.1da1255d@archlinux>
 <20141107133223.3ac014e7@thewildbeast>
 <20141107144709.6af7885b@archlinux>
 <20141107141038.6dfc3a8f@thewildbeast>
 <20141107151850.05da9f45@archlinux>
 <20141107142347.7125fd8d@thewildbeast>
 <20141107153233.12999447@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141107143812.5afaedbe@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:32:33 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 

> A spam button is added, but without the plugin it can't be used. I
> don't see how to enable running a command or script.

Look at those preferences, choose 'Item Type': 'User Action' (and not
'Internal Function').

with regards

Paul


-- 
Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 15:48:25 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 14:48:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3322] claws-mail crashes when clicking on malformed
 PNG attachment
In-Reply-To: <bug-3322-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3322-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3322-595-DL0uCwInE0@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3322

--- Comment #6 from Hanno Boeck <hanno at hboeck.de> ---
FYI, reported to gdk-pixbuf upstream:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739785

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From albert.aribaud at free.fr  Fri Nov  7 15:54:25 2014
From: albert.aribaud at free.fr (Albert ARIBAUD)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:54:25 +0100
Subject: [Users] User action names in buttons (Was: Filtering spam)
In-Reply-To: <20141107143812.5afaedbe@thewildbeast>
References: <20141107123717.579ab93a@archlinux>
 <20141107124949.16bf4bf6@thewildbeast>
 <20141107141408.1da1255d@archlinux>
 <20141107133223.3ac014e7@thewildbeast>
 <20141107144709.6af7885b@archlinux>
 <20141107141038.6dfc3a8f@thewildbeast>
 <20141107151850.05da9f45@archlinux>
 <20141107142347.7125fd8d@thewildbeast>
 <20141107153233.12999447@archlinux>
 <20141107143812.5afaedbe@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141107155425.7197899c@lilith>

Hi Paul,

Le Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:38:12 +0000, Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> a
écrit :

> On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:32:33 +0100
> Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> > A spam button is added, but without the plugin it can't be used. I
> > don't see how to enable running a command or script.
> 
> Look at those preferences, choose 'Item Type': 'User Action' (and not
> 'Internal Function').

Speaking of adding buttons for user actions, were you eventually able
to reproduce the issue I am having with buttons mistakenly referring to
user actions by their translated names (bug no. 3310)?

> with regards
> 
> Paul

Amicalement,
-- 
Albert.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 16:05:25 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:05:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] User action names in buttons (Was: Filtering spam)
In-Reply-To: <20141107155425.7197899c@lilith>
References: <20141107123717.579ab93a@archlinux>
 <20141107124949.16bf4bf6@thewildbeast>
 <20141107141408.1da1255d@archlinux>
 <20141107133223.3ac014e7@thewildbeast>
 <20141107144709.6af7885b@archlinux>
 <20141107141038.6dfc3a8f@thewildbeast>
 <20141107151850.05da9f45@archlinux>
 <20141107142347.7125fd8d@thewildbeast>
 <20141107153233.12999447@archlinux>
 <20141107143812.5afaedbe@thewildbeast>
 <20141107155425.7197899c@lilith>
Message-ID: <20141107150525.550e5726@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:54:25 +0100
Albert ARIBAUD <albert.aribaud at free.fr> wrote: 

> Speaking of adding buttons for user actions, were you eventually
> able to reproduce the issue I am having with buttons mistakenly
> referring to user actions by their translated names (bug no. 3310)?

Yes, I was able to reproduce it, but not found the fix yet.

with regards

Paul


-- 
Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières


From clifflaine at europe.com  Fri Nov  7 16:10:43 2014
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:10:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] How to add RSSyl plugin to 3.8.0?
Message-ID: <20141107151043.74774c3e@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

I've forced version 3.8.0 from Synaptic because of the difficulties
with the RSS plugin on 3.11.1.

However, I can't seem to be able to add the RSS plugin to the older
version, since Synaptic wants me to upgrade all the time to 3.11.1. Is
there a way round this? Can I add the plugin manually at all?

Cliff


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 16:17:56 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:17:56 +0000
Subject: [Users] How to add RSSyl plugin to 3.8.0?
In-Reply-To: <20141107151043.74774c3e@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20141107151043.74774c3e@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20141107151756.6e85984c@thewildbeast>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:10:43 +0000
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote: 

> I've forced version 3.8.0 from Synaptic because of the difficulties
> with the RSS plugin on 3.11.1.

Woah! That's a bad idea, whatever the reason.

> However, I can't seem to be able to add the RSS plugin to the older
> version, since Synaptic wants me to upgrade all the time to 3.11.1.
> Is there a way round this? Can I add the plugin manually at all?

Force the downgrade of the plugin in the same way you forced the
downgrade of Claws Mail. Don't use synaptic, use apt-get or dpkg
instead.

with regards

Paul


-- 
Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières


From clifflaine at europe.com  Fri Nov  7 16:30:45 2014
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:30:45 +0000
Subject: [Users] How to add RSSyl plugin to 3.8.0?
In-Reply-To: <20141107151756.6e85984c@thewildbeast>
References: <20141107151043.74774c3e@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20141107151756.6e85984c@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141107153045.52e5d7c9@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:17:56 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:10:43 +0000
> Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote: 
> 
> > I've forced version 3.8.0 from Synaptic because of the difficulties
> > with the RSS plugin on 3.11.1.
> 
> Woah! That's a bad idea, whatever the reason.

I'm sure 3.8.0 wasn't *that* bad :)

> 
> > However, I can't seem to be able to add the RSS plugin to the older
> > version, since Synaptic wants me to upgrade all the time to 3.11.1.
> > Is there a way round this? Can I add the plugin manually at all?
> 
> Force the downgrade of the plugin in the same way you forced the
> downgrade of Claws Mail. Don't use synaptic, use apt-get or dpkg
> instead.
> 

Thanks -- so would I do something like sudo apt-get
claws-mail-feeds-reader ? How would I tell it that I want 3.8.0?

Cliff


From albert.aribaud at free.fr  Fri Nov  7 17:10:00 2014
From: albert.aribaud at free.fr (Albert ARIBAUD)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 17:10:00 +0100
Subject: [Users] User action names in buttons (Was: Filtering spam)
In-Reply-To: <20141107150525.550e5726@thewildbeast>
References: <20141107123717.579ab93a@archlinux>
 <20141107124949.16bf4bf6@thewildbeast>
 <20141107141408.1da1255d@archlinux>
 <20141107133223.3ac014e7@thewildbeast>
 <20141107144709.6af7885b@archlinux>
 <20141107141038.6dfc3a8f@thewildbeast>
 <20141107151850.05da9f45@archlinux>
 <20141107142347.7125fd8d@thewildbeast>
 <20141107153233.12999447@archlinux>
 <20141107143812.5afaedbe@thewildbeast>
 <20141107155425.7197899c@lilith>
 <20141107150525.550e5726@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141107171000.21c42188@lilith>

Bonjour Paul,

Le Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:05:25 +0000, Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> a
écrit :

> On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:54:25 +0100
> Albert ARIBAUD <albert.aribaud at free.fr> wrote: 
> 
> > Speaking of adding buttons for user actions, were you eventually
> > able to reproduce the issue I am having with buttons mistakenly
> > referring to user actions by their translated names (bug no. 3310)?
> 
> Yes, I was able to reproduce it, but not found the fix yet.

Ok, thanks.
 
> with regards
> 
> Paul

Amicalement,
-- 
Albert.


From newsboy at scarlet-jade.com  Fri Nov  7 17:13:32 2014
From: newsboy at scarlet-jade.com (Graham P Davis)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 16:13:32 +0000
Subject: [Users] "Put deleted messages in . . . " ignored
References: <20141107113211.5b0212e0@linux-l0lu>
 <20141107120544.3ddb270a@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141107161332.361fbb3c@linux-l0lu>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:05:44 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 11:32:11 +0000
> Graham P Davis <newsboy at scarlet-jade.com> wrote: 
> 
> > Unfortunately, I
> > verified that it didn't work. Deleted messages still went in the
> > general trash and my new folder remained disappointingly empty.
> 
> How did you verify it didn't work? What sort of accounts/mailboxes
> are you talking about?
> 

I set up one mailbox with one folder per account in the inbox. The
method I tried for using separate trash folders for each account was
this:

Configuration ==> Edit Accounts
Select mail account and "edit".
Account ==> Advanced
"Put deleted messages in", #mh/Mailbox/trash/Graham. 
The following similar entry works:
"Put sent messages in", #mh/Mailbox/inbox/Graham

Just to make the process seem even closer to "sent", I've just tried
asking for deleted messages to be put in a new folder,
#mh/Mailbox/inbox/Graham/trash, but that also failed to make a
difference with deleted messages still going to the general trash
folder.


-- 
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
OS: Linux: openSUSE 13.2 (64-bit); KDE 4.14.2; Kernel: 3.16.6





From andrej at kacian.sk  Fri Nov  7 17:30:50 2014
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 17:30:50 +0100
Subject: [Users] How to add RSSyl plugin to 3.8.0?
In-Reply-To: <20141107151043.74774c3e@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20141107151043.74774c3e@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20141107173050.32812cee@penny>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:10:43 +0000
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote:

> I've forced version 3.8.0 from Synaptic because of the difficulties
> with the RSS plugin on 3.11.1.

May I ask what those difficulties are? I get that the new storage
format migration may have hosed your feeds, but going back won't
magically restore them.

-- 
Andrej


From clifflaine at europe.com  Fri Nov  7 17:59:27 2014
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 16:59:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] How to add RSSyl plugin to 3.8.0?
In-Reply-To: <20141107173050.32812cee@penny>
References: <20141107151043.74774c3e@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20141107173050.32812cee@penny>
Message-ID: <20141107165927.7cd7b579@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 17:30:50 +0100
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:10:43 +0000
> Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote:
> 
> > I've forced version 3.8.0 from Synaptic because of the difficulties
> > with the RSS plugin on 3.11.1.
> 
> May I ask what those difficulties are? I get that the new storage
> format migration may have hosed your feeds, but going back won't
> magically restore them.
> 

Perhaps I've misunderstood the difficulty. None of the feeds are
updating. Everything was OK in previous versions, so I thought that
perhaps forcing an earlier version would correct the problem.

Is that not the case? Will I still have the same problem in 3.8.0?

Cliff


From andrej at kacian.sk  Fri Nov  7 18:10:41 2014
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 18:10:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] How to add RSSyl plugin to 3.8.0?
In-Reply-To: <20141107165927.7cd7b579@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20141107151043.74774c3e@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20141107173050.32812cee@penny>
 <20141107165927.7cd7b579@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20141107181041.7e98e254@penny>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 16:59:27 +0000
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote:

> Perhaps I've misunderstood the difficulty. None of the feeds are
> updating. Everything was OK in previous versions, so I thought that
> perhaps forcing an earlier version would correct the problem.
> 
> Is that not the case? Will I still have the same problem in 3.8.0?

Well, if you (as you described in the other thread) went from older
Claws Mail to 3.11, and back, all your feeds are just gone (and their
folders demoted to "just a folder" status, with no feed URL attached).

If that is the case, your best bet is to just remove the whole "My
Feeds" folder tree, removing ~/.claws-mail/RSSyl folder (since the
failed migration might have left some unused files or directories which
could get in the way), adding a new RSSyl tree (via File->Add mailbox),
and resubscribing all your feeds anew.

By the way, you would have to do that even if you went back to 3.8.0.

If you have backups of your home directory, try looking
for .claws-mail/RSSyl/rssyl-feedlist.opml file which would contain
your entire feed list, including folder structure. You could then just
import that to RSSyl.

-- 
Andrej


From clifflaine at europe.com  Fri Nov  7 19:06:48 2014
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 18:06:48 +0000
Subject: [Users] How to add RSSyl plugin to 3.8.0?
In-Reply-To: <20141107181041.7e98e254@penny>
References: <20141107151043.74774c3e@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20141107173050.32812cee@penny>
 <20141107165927.7cd7b579@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20141107181041.7e98e254@penny>
Message-ID: <20141107180648.135dea6b@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 18:10:41 +0100
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> Well, if you (as you described in the other thread) went from older
> Claws Mail to 3.11, and back, all your feeds are just gone (and their
> folders demoted to "just a folder" status, with no feed URL attached).
> 
> If that is the case, your best bet is to just remove the whole "My
> Feeds" folder tree, removing ~/.claws-mail/RSSyl folder (since the
> failed migration might have left some unused files or directories
> which could get in the way), adding a new RSSyl tree (via File->Add
> mailbox), and resubscribing all your feeds anew.
> 
> By the way, you would have to do that even if you went back to 3.8.0.
> 
> If you have backups of your home directory, try looking
> for .claws-mail/RSSyl/rssyl-feedlist.opml file which would contain
> your entire feed list, including folder structure. You could then just
> import that to RSSyl.
> 

I thought that was what I had already done :) 

I've done it again and updated back to 3.11.1, so as soon as someone
updates a blog I'll know if it's working OK (I have every confidence in
your work :)  )

Cliff


From itz at buug.org  Fri Nov  7 19:06:31 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 10:06:31 -0800
Subject: [Users] OT:  "Put deleted messages in . . . " ignored
In-Reply-To: <20141107133950.15d8cbef@archlinux>
References: <20141107113211.5b0212e0@linux-l0lu>
 <20141107120544.3ddb270a@thewildbeast>
 <1415363234.1189.1.camel@rocketmail.com>
 <20141107123335.4ab325ae@thewildbeast>
 <20141107133950.15d8cbef@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141107100631.289602e6.itz@buug.org>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 13:39:50 +0100,
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

Ralf> That's another thread, anyway, I'm using Bogofilter and when I
Ralf> apply the filters manually by the Tool menu they do work. I need
Ralf> to sort some spams, I need several folders, there's no other way
Ralf> to handle some spam attacks. I'm not making it difficult, it's the
Ralf> only way to handle it and a MUA should provide the ability to
Ralf> automatically sort spam to different folders.

I disagree.  This functionality doesn't belong to the MUA at all, it is
best done further up the chain with procmail or something similar but
more modern (maildrop or a Sieve processor).

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From itz at buug.org  Fri Nov  7 19:11:33 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 10:11:33 -0800
Subject: [Users] How to add RSSyl plugin to 3.8.0?
In-Reply-To: <20141107153045.52e5d7c9@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20141107151043.74774c3e@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20141107151756.6e85984c@thewildbeast>
 <20141107153045.52e5d7c9@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20141107101133.3b7ed0ca.itz@buug.org>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:30:45 +0000,
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote:

Cliff> Thanks -- so would I do something like sudo apt-get
Cliff> claws-mail-feeds-reader ? How would I tell it that I want 3.8.0?

apt-get has a manpage :-P

Hint: look at for "target_release" or "=version" in the command synopsis.

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From itz at buug.org  Fri Nov  7 19:15:36 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 10:15:36 -0800
Subject: [Users] How to add RSSyl plugin to 3.8.0?
In-Reply-To: <20141107181041.7e98e254@penny>
References: <20141107151043.74774c3e@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20141107173050.32812cee@penny>
 <20141107165927.7cd7b579@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20141107181041.7e98e254@penny>
Message-ID: <20141107101536.5a8ee178.itz@buug.org>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 18:10:41 +0100,
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

Andrej> If that is the case, your best bet is to just remove the whole
Andrej> "My Feeds" folder tree, removing ~/.claws-mail/RSSyl folder
Andrej> (since the failed migration might have left some unused files or
Andrej> directories which could get in the way), adding a new RSSyl tree
Andrej> (via File->Add mailbox), and resubscribing all your feeds anew.

Andrej> If you have backups of your home directory, try looking for
Andrej> .claws-mail/RSSyl/rssyl-feedlist.opml file which would contain
Andrej> your entire feed list, including folder structure. You could
Andrej> then just import that to RSSyl.

Wouldn't it make sense to store the .opml file somewhere else under
.claws-mail?  Then you wouldn't have to pray for an external backup in
this situation.

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From andrej at kacian.sk  Fri Nov  7 19:54:41 2014
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 19:54:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] How to add RSSyl plugin to 3.8.0?
In-Reply-To: <20141107101536.5a8ee178.itz@buug.org>
References: <20141107151043.74774c3e@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20141107173050.32812cee@penny>
 <20141107165927.7cd7b579@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20141107181041.7e98e254@penny>
 <20141107101536.5a8ee178.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20141107195441.2b86449a@penny>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 10:15:36 -0800
Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:

> Wouldn't it make sense to store the .opml file somewhere else under
> .claws-mail?  Then you wouldn't have to pray for an external backup in
> this situation.

The .opml file is just a convenience export file that is rewritten
everytime you start (or quit? I don't quite remember now) Claws Mail,
to be used for importing the feed list to other RSS readers, or to
different Claws Mail installation.

It was never meant to be used as a backup.

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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Fri Nov  7 20:07:59 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 20:07:59 +0100
Subject: [Users] OT:  "Put deleted messages in . . . " ignored
In-Reply-To: <20141107100631.289602e6.itz@buug.org>
References: <20141107113211.5b0212e0@linux-l0lu>
 <20141107120544.3ddb270a@thewildbeast>
 <1415363234.1189.1.camel@rocketmail.com>
 <20141107123335.4ab325ae@thewildbeast>
 <20141107133950.15d8cbef@archlinux>
 <20141107100631.289602e6.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20141107200759.1d36fe7a@archlinux>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 10:06:31 -0800
Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 13:39:50 +0100,
> Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ralf> That's another thread, anyway, I'm using Bogofilter and when I
> Ralf> apply the filters manually by the Tool menu they do work. I need
> Ralf> to sort some spams, I need several folders, there's no other way
> Ralf> to handle some spam attacks. I'm not making it difficult, it's
> Ralf> the only way to handle it and a MUA should provide the ability
> Ralf> to automatically sort spam to different folders.
> 
> I disagree.  This functionality doesn't belong to the MUA at all, it
> is best done further up the chain with procmail or something similar
> but more modern (maildrop or a Sieve processor).

IMO you've got a wrong idea of how averaged desktop MUA users want to
handle their needs regarding mailing.
I don't want to become a mailing expert, I'm already a Linux audio
production nerd. It's too time consuming to tune each component of a
install in an expert way, sometimes functionality should be provided by
software in an easy to use way. Btw. right now I noticed a nice editor
option in the "Others" tab. IMO this is what MUAs are for, that's why
several people don't use Vi or Emacs with manually set up procmail,
msmtp etc. ;).

Regards,
Ralf



From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Fri Nov  7 20:17:01 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 20:17:01 +0100
Subject: [Users] Questions about mail folders
Message-ID: <20141107201701.6ddc3d3f@archlinux>

Hi,

what is a   (!)   after a folder name for? After receiving mails one
folder is marked with it.

I named all folder with "normal" chars, excepted of one folder, it has
got the asterisk at the beginning of the name. Could the asterisk cause
issues, IOW should I rename the folder?

Regards,
Ralf


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Fri Nov  7 20:19:41 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 20:19:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] Filtering spam
In-Reply-To: <20141107143812.5afaedbe@thewildbeast>
References: <20141107123717.579ab93a@archlinux>
 <20141107124949.16bf4bf6@thewildbeast>
 <20141107141408.1da1255d@archlinux>
 <20141107133223.3ac014e7@thewildbeast>
 <20141107144709.6af7885b@archlinux>
 <20141107141038.6dfc3a8f@thewildbeast>
 <20141107151850.05da9f45@archlinux>
 <20141107142347.7125fd8d@thewildbeast>
 <20141107153233.12999447@archlinux>
 <20141107143812.5afaedbe@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141107201941.31fd7882@archlinux>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:38:12 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> Look at those preferences, choose 'Item Type': 'User Action' (and not
> 'Internal Function').

Thank you Paul,

ASAP, likely not today, I'll give all your hints a trial.

Regards,
Ralf


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 20:45:35 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 19:45:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2577] Focus rectangle on folder list and message list
 headings doesn't get properly cleared when switching heading and
 horizontally scrolling list (underlines and vertical lines remain on
 screen)
In-Reply-To: <bug-2577-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2577-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2577-595-IveVIQGuyE@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2577

--- Comment #33 from Andreas Rönnquist <gusnan at gusnan.se> ---
There's still one place where this needs to be fixed:

diff --git a/src/gtk/gtkcmclist.c b/src/gtk/gtkcmclist.c
index b280758..68b2acc 100644
--- a/src/gtk/gtkcmclist.c
+++ b/src/gtk/gtkcmclist.c
@@ -6610,9 +6610,9 @@ gtk_cmclist_draw_focus (GtkWidget *widget)
     cairo_dash_from_add_mode(clist, cr);
     cairo_set_line_width(cr, 1.0);
     cairo_set_antialias(cr, CAIRO_ANTIALIAS_NONE);
-    cairo_rectangle(cr, 0, ROW_TOP_YPIXEL(clist, clist->focus_row),
+    cairo_rectangle(cr, 0, ROW_TOP_YPIXEL(clist, clist->focus_row) + 0.5,
            clist->clist_window_width + 1,
-           clist->row_height);
+           clist->row_height - 0.5);
     cairo_stroke(cr);
     cairo_destroy(cr);
   }

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 20:54:17 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 19:54:17 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2577] Focus rectangle on folder list and message list
 headings doesn't get properly cleared when switching heading and
 horizontally scrolling list (underlines and vertical lines remain on
 screen)
In-Reply-To: <bug-2577-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2577-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2577-595-ZmCldSnMGY@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2577

--- Comment #34 from Andreas Rönnquist <gusnan at gusnan.se> ---
Gah, that previous patch was obviously incomplete, there's a similar unfocus
function just below the focus one:

diff --git a/src/gtk/gtkcmclist.c b/src/gtk/gtkcmclist.c
index b280758..737b278 100644
--- a/src/gtk/gtkcmclist.c
+++ b/src/gtk/gtkcmclist.c
@@ -6610,9 +6610,9 @@ gtk_cmclist_draw_focus (GtkWidget *widget)
     cairo_dash_from_add_mode(clist, cr);
     cairo_set_line_width(cr, 1.0);
     cairo_set_antialias(cr, CAIRO_ANTIALIAS_NONE);
-    cairo_rectangle(cr, 0, ROW_TOP_YPIXEL(clist, clist->focus_row),
+    cairo_rectangle(cr, 0, ROW_TOP_YPIXEL(clist, clist->focus_row) + 0.5,
             clist->clist_window_width + 1,
-            clist->row_height);
+            clist->row_height - 0.5);
     cairo_stroke(cr);
     cairo_destroy(cr);
   }
@@ -6639,9 +6639,9 @@ gtk_cmclist_undraw_focus (GtkWidget *widget)
     cairo_set_line_width(cr, 1.0);
     gdk_cairo_set_source_color(cr,
&gtk_widget_get_style(widget)->base[GTK_STATE_NORMAL]);
     cairo_set_antialias(cr, CAIRO_ANTIALIAS_NONE);
-    cairo_rectangle(cr, 0, ROW_TOP_YPIXEL(clist, clist->focus_row),
+    cairo_rectangle(cr, 0, ROW_TOP_YPIXEL(clist, clist->focus_row) + 0.5,
             clist->clist_window_width + 1,
-            clist->row_height);
+            clist->row_height - 0.5);
     cairo_stroke(cr);
     cairo_destroy(cr);
   }

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 21:01:18 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 20:01:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3310] Toolbar action buttons wrongly refer to
 translated action names
In-Reply-To: <bug-3310-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3310-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3310-595-aVXwtTMfFU@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3310

--- Comment #5 from Albert ARIBAUD <albert.aribaud at free.fr> ---
Further analysis shows that:
- in toolbar_main.xml, the added "Spam" button is represented as follows:

    <item file="mail_receive_all" text="Spam" action="A_CLAWS_ACTION"/>

This XML fragment is read in src/toolbar.c, whose line 370 copies the 'text'
attribute into a ToolbarItem's text field:

    item->text = g_strdup (*value ? gettext(value):"");

After this line, item->text equals "Pourriel" -- and the "Red" is lost.

Later on, when creating the ToolbarClawsActions struct, the action name is
copied from the (translated) item's text field.

Later yet, prefs_actions_find_by_name() is called with the action's
(translated) name -- and since no action "Pourriel" exists, none is taken.

A solution would be to store the untranslated action name in the gchar* 'text'
field to the ToolbarItem and to only translate it when building the actual
toolbar button.

I did try the following diff, which made the button work as expected.

@@ -367,7 +367,7 @@ static void toolbar_parse_item(XMLFile *file, ToolbarType
source)
                if (g_utf8_collate(name, TOOLBAR_ICON_FILE) == 0) 
                        item->file = g_strdup (value);
                else if (g_utf8_collate(name, TOOLBAR_ICON_TEXT) == 0)
-                       item->text = g_strdup (*value ? gettext(value):"");
+                       item->text = g_strdup (value);
                else if (g_utf8_collate(name, TOOLBAR_ICON_ACTION) == 0)
                        item->index = toolbar_ret_val_from_text(value);
                if (item->index == -1 && !strcmp(value, "A_DELETE")) {
@@ -2150,7 +2150,7 @@ Toolbar *toolbar_create(ToolbarType        type,
 #endif

                case A_CLAWS_ACTIONS:
-                      
TOOLBAR_ITEM(item,icon_wid,toolbar_item->text,toolbar_item->text);
+                      
TOOLBAR_ITEM(item,icon_wid,gettext(toolbar_item->text),toolbar_item->text);
                        action_item = g_new0(ToolbarClawsActions, 1);
                        action_item->widget = item;
                        action_item->name   = g_strdup(toolbar_item->text);

Of course, this is not a viable patch, only a proof of analysis.

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From itz at buug.org  Sat Nov  8 00:14:57 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:14:57 -0800
Subject: [Users] Very OT:  "Put deleted messages in . . . " ignored
In-Reply-To: <20141107200759.1d36fe7a@archlinux>
References: <20141107113211.5b0212e0@linux-l0lu>
 <20141107120544.3ddb270a@thewildbeast>
 <1415363234.1189.1.camel@rocketmail.com>
 <20141107123335.4ab325ae@thewildbeast>
 <20141107133950.15d8cbef@archlinux>
 <20141107100631.289602e6.itz@buug.org>
 <20141107200759.1d36fe7a@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141107151457.3c2676e3.itz@buug.org>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 20:07:59 +0100,
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

Ralf> IMO you've got a wrong idea of how averaged desktop MUA users want
Ralf> to handle their needs regarding mailing.

Must every piece of software aim at the "averaged desktop user"?

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From itz at buug.org  Sat Nov  8 00:20:07 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:20:07 -0800
Subject: [Users] Questions about mail folders
In-Reply-To: <20141107201701.6ddc3d3f@archlinux>
References: <20141107201701.6ddc3d3f@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141107152007.63b3afa2.itz@buug.org>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 20:17:01 +0100,
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

Ralf> what is a (!)  after a folder name for? After receiving mails one
Ralf> folder is marked with it.

That means there is new mail in a thread you marked.  IIRC Thunderbird
has a similar feature.

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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sat Nov  8 02:26:59 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 02:26:59 +0100
Subject: [Users] Questions about mail folders
In-Reply-To: <20141107152007.63b3afa2.itz@buug.org>
References: <20141107201701.6ddc3d3f@archlinux>
 <20141107152007.63b3afa2.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20141108022659.1b6da7dc@archlinux>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:20:07 -0800
Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 20:17:01 +0100,
> Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ralf> what is a (!)  after a folder name for? After receiving mails
> Ralf> one folder is marked with it.
> 
> That means there is new mail in a thread you marked.  IIRC Thunderbird
> has a similar feature.

Thank you,

indeed, I didn't notice that the subject of a thread changed.
"User action names in buttons (Was: Filtering spam)". Very seldom I
care about thread view, because on mailing lists threads to often get
broken. Nice feature, since I still don't need to use thread view, but
the (!) notifies, when it makes sense to enable it.

Regards,
Ralf


From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au  Sat Nov  8 07:30:57 2014
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 17:30:57 +1100
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141105142242.54fc7f6e@PPlive>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141105142242.54fc7f6e@PPlive>
Message-ID: <20141108173057.10ae0dfd@PPlive>

On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 14:22:42 +1100
blind Pete <peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au> wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 21:41:36 -0500
> Charles Lehner <clm.cel at celehner.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 18:19:22 -0800
> > Thomas Taylor <linxt at comcast.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > How do I select what external editor is used for a claws-mail
> > > reply (Shift-Ctrl-X)?
> > > 
> > > I would expect some sort of drop down box listing installed
> > > editors or something in configuration but don't find that.
> > > 
> > > Thanks, Tom
> > > 
> > 
> > Hi Tom,
> > 
> > There is an option to change the command used for external editor
> > in Preferences/Message View/External Programs. A drop-down box
> > could be cool though.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Charles
> 
> Ha!  Just added "+set syntax=mail" to that.  Gvim was recognising
> files from CM as being emails.  Go figure.

<grumble>  

Typo:  was NOT going to mail syntax until adjusted.  


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From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au  Sat Nov  8 07:35:57 2014
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 17:35:57 +1100
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141104223045.4f1dc64c@cel.celehner.com>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
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Message-ID: <20141108173557.0af6bf54@PPlive>

On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 22:30:45 -0500
Charles Lehner <clm.cel at celehner.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 14:22:42 +1100
> blind Pete <peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 21:41:36 -0500
> > Charles Lehner <clm.cel at celehner.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 18:19:22 -0800
> > > Thomas Taylor <linxt at comcast.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > How do I select what external editor is used for a claws-mail
> > > > reply (Shift-Ctrl-X)?
> > > > 
> > > > I would expect some sort of drop down box listing installed
> > > > editors or something in configuration but don't find that.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks, Tom
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Tom,
> > > 
> > > There is an option to change the command used for external editor
> > > in Preferences/Message View/External Programs. A drop-down box
> > > could be cool though.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Charles
> > 
> > Ha!  Just added "+set syntax=mail" to that.  Gvim was recognising
> > files from CM as being emails.  Go figure.
> > 
> 
> Good idea. I've been doing something similar using an autocommand in
> my vimrc:
> 
> au BufNewFile,BufRead ~/.claws-mail/tmp/tmpmsg.* set ft=mail

There is more than one way to skin a cat in Linux.  

Would it be sensible to have syntax set to mail as the default
configuration for each of the editors?  

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From itz at buug.org  Sat Nov  8 08:06:32 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 23:06:32 -0800
Subject: [Users] To-arrow
In-Reply-To: <20141104145822.6447d342@pc09.procura.nl>
References: <20141104142426.16b545ba@phoenix.squirrel.nl>
 <20141104145822.6447d342@pc09.procura.nl>
Message-ID: <20141107230632.4af4ace9.itz@buug.org>

On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 14:58:22 +0100,
"H.Merijn Brand" <h.m.brand at xs4all.nl> wrote:

sciurius> When I send mail to someone, and keep a copy, Claws is very
sciurius> friendly to not show the recipient instead of the sender
sciurius> (because that's me). To indicate it is showing a recipient,
sciurius> the address is prefixed with "-->".

sciurius> Is it possible to configure Claws to use something more
sciurius> 21st-century like, e.g. "→" or "➥" ? A hidden config setting,
sciurius> maybe?

H> Currently it is not. It is hardcoded.

Here is a patch adding a hidden preference to customize the prefix.

I tried setting it to the Unicode version in clawsrc, and it works
beautifully.

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From itz at buug.org  Sat Nov  8 08:15:07 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 23:15:07 -0800
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141108173557.0af6bf54@PPlive>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141105142242.54fc7f6e@PPlive>
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Message-ID: <20141107231507.5bd7c45c.itz@buug.org>

On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 17:35:57 +1100,
blind Pete <peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au> wrote:

Pete> Would it be sensible to have syntax set to mail as the default
Pete> configuration for each of the editors?

See my signature for how I do it with Emacs.

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From pg.nikolic1 at gmail.com  Sat Nov  8 09:10:52 2014
From: pg.nikolic1 at gmail.com (pete nikolic)
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 08:10:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] Very OT:  "Put deleted messages in . . . " ignored
In-Reply-To: <20141107151457.3c2676e3.itz@buug.org>
References: <20141107113211.5b0212e0@linux-l0lu>
 <20141107120544.3ddb270a@thewildbeast>
 <1415363234.1189.1.camel@rocketmail.com>
 <20141107123335.4ab325ae@thewildbeast>
 <20141107133950.15d8cbef@archlinux>
 <20141107100631.289602e6.itz@buug.org>
 <20141107200759.1d36fe7a@archlinux>
 <20141107151457.3c2676e3.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20141108081052.13cdf96e@7-of-9>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:14:57 -0800
Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 20:07:59 +0100,
> Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ralf> IMO you've got a wrong idea of how averaged desktop MUA users want
> Ralf> to handle their needs regarding mailing.
> 
> Must every piece of software aim at the "averaged desktop user"?
> 

I can see no valid reason for having more than one trash folder   anymore are just
clutter 


Pete 

-- 
Illegitimi non carborundum . ro for the purists out there
Noli nothis permittere te terere. 


From albert.aribaud at free.fr  Sat Nov  8 10:05:06 2014
From: albert.aribaud at free.fr (Albert ARIBAUD)
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 10:05:06 +0100
Subject: [Users] Very OT:  "Put deleted messages in . . . " ignored
In-Reply-To: <20141108081052.13cdf96e@7-of-9>
References: <20141107113211.5b0212e0@linux-l0lu>
 <20141107120544.3ddb270a@thewildbeast>
 <1415363234.1189.1.camel@rocketmail.com>
 <20141107123335.4ab325ae@thewildbeast>
 <20141107133950.15d8cbef@archlinux>
 <20141107100631.289602e6.itz@buug.org>
 <20141107200759.1d36fe7a@archlinux>
 <20141107151457.3c2676e3.itz@buug.org>
 <20141108081052.13cdf96e@7-of-9>
Message-ID: <20141108100506.5a4e9d7f@lilith>

Bonjour pete,

Le Sat, 8 Nov 2014 08:10:52 +0000, pete nikolic <pg.nikolic1 at gmail.com>
a écrit :

> On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:14:57 -0800
> Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 20:07:59 +0100,
> > Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Ralf> IMO you've got a wrong idea of how averaged desktop MUA users want
> > Ralf> to handle their needs regarding mailing.
> > 
> > Must every piece of software aim at the "averaged desktop user"?
> > 
> 
> I can see no valid reason for having more than one trash folder   anymore are just
> clutter 

Well, 'valid' is subjective. For instance, my config puts recent
bogofilter hits in a specific trash (sub)folder, so that I can review
recent hits and quickly check if they are true spam or false positives.
Having these in a separate trash folder is convenient to me, which I
deem a 'valid' reason. 

> Pete 

Amicalement,
-- 
Albert.


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sat Nov  8 10:24:30 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 10:24:30 +0100
Subject: [Users] Very OT:  "Put deleted messages in . . . " ignored
In-Reply-To: <20141108100506.5a4e9d7f@lilith>
References: <20141107113211.5b0212e0@linux-l0lu>
 <20141107120544.3ddb270a@thewildbeast>
 <1415363234.1189.1.camel@rocketmail.com>
 <20141107123335.4ab325ae@thewildbeast>
 <20141107133950.15d8cbef@archlinux>
 <20141107100631.289602e6.itz@buug.org>
 <20141107200759.1d36fe7a@archlinux>
 <20141107151457.3c2676e3.itz@buug.org>
 <20141108081052.13cdf96e@7-of-9> <20141108100506.5a4e9d7f@lilith>
Message-ID: <20141108102430.396396c0@archlinux>

On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 10:05:06 +0100
Albert ARIBAUD <albert.aribaud at free.fr> wrote:

> Bonjour pete,
> 
> Le Sat, 8 Nov 2014 08:10:52 +0000, pete nikolic
> <pg.nikolic1 at gmail.com> a écrit :
> 
> > On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:14:57 -0800
> > Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 20:07:59 +0100,
> > > Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Ralf> IMO you've got a wrong idea of how averaged desktop MUA
> > > Ralf> users want to handle their needs regarding mailing.
> > > 
> > > Must every piece of software aim at the "averaged desktop user"?
> > > 
> > 
> > I can see no valid reason for having more than one trash folder
> > anymore are just clutter 
> 
> Well, 'valid' is subjective. For instance, my config puts recent
> bogofilter hits in a specific trash (sub)folder, so that I can review
> recent hits and quickly check if they are true spam or false
> positives. Having these in a separate trash folder is convenient to
> me, which I deem a 'valid' reason.

That's why I need several spam folders. Usually I don't receive much
spam, but sometimes one of the providers I use is attacked by addresses
that end with .ru. Then there could be 1000 spam mails each minute. I at
least need a spam folder for averaged spam, to check them against false
positives, a folder for .ru spam and a folder for unknown .ru mails
that aren't flagged as spam. Likely Claws does provide to display only
mails that get a special label, so alternatively not separated folders
are needed, but different labels. For different labels there would be
the same issue, that filters after using the bogofilters plugin only can
be applied manually. It would be nice if the developers could consider
to allow automatically applying the filters after bogofilter run.

Regards,
Ralf


From newsboy at scarlet-jade.com  Sat Nov  8 10:41:46 2014
From: newsboy at scarlet-jade.com (Graham P Davis)
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 09:41:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] Very OT:  "Put deleted messages in . . . " ignored
References: <20141107113211.5b0212e0@linux-l0lu>
 <20141107120544.3ddb270a@thewildbeast>
 <1415363234.1189.1.camel@rocketmail.com>
 <20141107123335.4ab325ae@thewildbeast>
 <20141107133950.15d8cbef@archlinux>
 <20141107100631.289602e6.itz@buug.org>
 <20141107200759.1d36fe7a@archlinux>
 <20141107151457.3c2676e3.itz@buug.org>
 <20141108081052.13cdf96e@7-of-9>
Message-ID: <20141108094146.512af0f4@linux-l0lu>

On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 08:10:52 +0000
pete nikolic <pg.nikolic1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:14:57 -0800
> Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 20:07:59 +0100,
> > Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Ralf> IMO you've got a wrong idea of how averaged desktop MUA users
> > Ralf> want to handle their needs regarding mailing.
> > 
> > Must every piece of software aim at the "averaged desktop user"?
> > 
> 
> I can see no valid reason for having more than one trash folder
> anymore are just clutter 
> 

Really? If Claws had an un-delete button I might just possibly agree but
it doesn't. I wanted to set up additional waste buckets so that a
mis-deleted mail could be found more quickly. As extra buckets would be
sub-folders of the general trash folder, I wouldn't see any extra
clutter.



-- 
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
OS: Linux: openSUSE 13.2 (64-bit); KDE 4.14.2; Kernel: 3.16.6





From clifflaine at europe.com  Sat Nov  8 10:44:33 2014
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 09:44:33 +0000
Subject: [Users] How to add RSSyl plugin to 3.8.0?
In-Reply-To: <20141107101133.3b7ed0ca.itz@buug.org>
References: <20141107151043.74774c3e@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20141107151756.6e85984c@thewildbeast>
 <20141107153045.52e5d7c9@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20141107101133.3b7ed0ca.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20141108094433.1e61d71b@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 10:11:33 -0800
Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:30:45 +0000,
> Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote:
> 
> Cliff> Thanks -- so would I do something like sudo apt-get
> Cliff> claws-mail-feeds-reader ? How would I tell it that I want
> Cliff> 3.8.0?
> 
> apt-get has a manpage :-P
> 
> Hint: look at for "target_release" or "=version" in the command
> synopsis.
> 

Thank you Ian -- I should have thought of that.

Cliff



From newsboy at scarlet-jade.com  Sat Nov  8 10:49:59 2014
From: newsboy at scarlet-jade.com (Graham P Davis)
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 09:49:59 +0000
Subject: [Users] "Put deleted messages in . . . " ignored
References: <20141107113211.5b0212e0@linux-l0lu>
 <20141107080422.55ed3c4e@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20141108094959.18b80ba6@linux-l0lu>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 08:04:22 -0500
Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 11:32:11 +0000 Graham P Davis wrote:
> 
> >Instead of dumping all my deleted messages in the same waste-bin, I
> >decided to configure my accounts to use their own trash-cans. To
> >verify that it worked, I set up a new trash folder and edited an
> >account to "put deleted messages in . . ." the new folder.
> >Unfortunately, I verified that it didn't work. Deleted messages still
> >went in the general trash and my new folder remained disappointingly
> >empty.
> >
> >Is there something I've missed in setting this up or does it just not
> >work?
> >  
> Sounds like you set up ONE MH mailbox and added accounts when what you
> want is to add one MH mailbox per account:

That is what I did and that is what I want. What you suggest would
lead to to much clutter for me and is one reason why another e-mailer I
tried, which forced me to use a separate mail-box per account was
rejected by me. 

What I want is for the "put deleted messages in . . ." option to work.
Seems like I'll have to raise a bug report for this as it seems from
the conversation here that it is a bug rather than a failure on my
part in configuring this correctly.

-- 
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
OS: Linux: openSUSE 13.2 (64-bit); KDE 4.14.2; Kernel: 3.16.6





From albert.aribaud at free.fr  Sat Nov  8 12:07:54 2014
From: albert.aribaud at free.fr (Albert ARIBAUD)
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 12:07:54 +0100
Subject: [Users] "Put deleted messages in . . . " ignored
In-Reply-To: <20141108094959.18b80ba6@linux-l0lu>
References: <20141107113211.5b0212e0@linux-l0lu>
 <20141107080422.55ed3c4e@pfortin.com>
 <20141108094959.18b80ba6@linux-l0lu>
Message-ID: <20141108120754.704135fc@lilith>

Bonjour Graham,

Le Sat, 8 Nov 2014 09:49:59 +0000, Graham P Davis
<newsboy at scarlet-jade.com> a écrit :

> On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 08:04:22 -0500
> Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 11:32:11 +0000 Graham P Davis wrote:
> > 
> > >Instead of dumping all my deleted messages in the same waste-bin, I
> > >decided to configure my accounts to use their own trash-cans. To
> > >verify that it worked, I set up a new trash folder and edited an
> > >account to "put deleted messages in . . ." the new folder.
> > >Unfortunately, I verified that it didn't work. Deleted messages still
> > >went in the general trash and my new folder remained disappointingly
> > >empty.
> > >
> > >Is there something I've missed in setting this up or does it just not
> > >work?
> > >  
> > Sounds like you set up ONE MH mailbox and added accounts when what you
> > want is to add one MH mailbox per account:
> 
> That is what I did and that is what I want. What you suggest would
> lead to to much clutter for me and is one reason why another e-mailer I
> tried, which forced me to use a separate mail-box per account was
> rejected by me. 
> 
> What I want is for the "put deleted messages in . . ." option to work.
> Seems like I'll have to raise a bug report for this as it seems from
> the conversation here that it is a bug rather than a failure on my
> part in configuring this correctly.

Note my experience: apparently there can only be one trash folder per
mailbox (whichever folder you define as type "trash" gets to be the
one, and the previous trash folder becomes a normal folder), but
thetrash folder can have subfolders and filter rules work well with
them. Maybe account defaults can work with trash subfolders too.

Amicalement,
-- 
Albert.


From chris at iccqs.com  Sat Nov  8 16:15:55 2014
From: chris at iccqs.com (Chris Dunn)
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 10:15:55 -0500
Subject: [Users] Synchronising claws address books over several machines
Message-ID: <20141108101555.721f9bc9@krystle.dunnz.net>

I posted once before on this subject but got no responses. Maybe my
post was too complex to be of interest.

I'm trying to synchronise my claws-mail address books across several
machines so that a change in one book is replicated in all the others.
I've tried using SpiderOak but ran into problems.

Does anybody synchronise their address books (only) across several
machines, and if so would they please enlighten me as to how they
achieve it.

Thanks in advance.






-- 

Chris Dunn



From mir at miras.org  Sat Nov  8 16:38:33 2014
From: mir at miras.org (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 16:38:33 +0100
Subject: [Users] Synchronising claws address books over several machines
In-Reply-To: <20141108101555.721f9bc9@krystle.dunnz.net>
References: <20141108101555.721f9bc9@krystle.dunnz.net>
Message-ID: <20141108163833.31cc4e51@sleipner.datanom.net>

On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 10:15:55 -0500
Chris Dunn <chris at iccqs.com> wrote:

> Does anybody synchronise their address books (only) across several
> machines, and if so would they please enlighten me as to how they
> achieve it.
> 
Create your address book in LDAP in that way you can share the same
addresses on several claws-mail installations. The LDAP address book
implementation in claws-mail supports both read and write.

-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Nov  9 01:05:40 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2014 00:05:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3324] New: Frequent seg faults when using NNTP
Message-ID: <bug-3324-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3324

            Bug ID: 3324
           Summary: Frequent seg faults when using NNTP
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.11.0
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: NNTP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: marvint.roebuck at inbox.lv

I get too frequent seg faults when using newsgroups. I use gmane and SSL.

Some examples:

1) error 14 in wqy-zenhei.ttc

2) error 14

3) error 4 in libgnutls.so

I think these coincide with network pressure, i.e. network bandwidth is limited
due to bandwidth consumption. So whenever the network is busy and slow these
happen.

Some details:

linux 3.16.3
claws-mail -V    
Claws Mail version 3.11.0
runtime GTK+ 2.24.20 / GLib 2.36.4
buildtime GTK+ 2.24.20 / GLib 2.36.4
Compiled-in features:
 GnuTLS
 iconv
 libetpan 1.5

I'm trying 3.11.1 now.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Nov  9 01:21:32 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2014 00:21:32 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3325] New: Password conversion from plaintext to
 encrypted does not handle ! as first char of plaintext password
Message-ID: <bug-3325-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3325

            Bug ID: 3325
           Summary: Password conversion from plaintext to encrypted does
                    not handle ! as first char of plaintext password
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.10.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: marvint.roebuck at inbox.lv

Password conversion from plaintext to encrypted does not handle ! as first char
of plaintext password. If you migrate from sylpheed to claws you will encounter
this problem. Should be a simple fix, I haven't looked at the code.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Nov  9 01:22:50 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2014 00:22:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3281] The contents of the Size column are not
 truncated to column width
In-Reply-To: <bug-3281-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3281-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3281-595-iJyWZGNw23@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3281

--- Comment #1 from Marvin <marvint.roebuck at inbox.lv> ---
I have the same problem but with the message number bleeding to the left. It's
real annoying.

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From itz at buug.org  Sun Nov  9 06:39:48 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 21:39:48 -0800
Subject: [Users] Jump to an arbitrary message in folder?
Message-ID: <20141108213948.519ec840.itz@buug.org>

This is one of of those things that are fairly minor, but because they
happen all the time the stress of fighting them accumulates.

Quite often I want to jump to some other message in the same folder,
based on what I see in the summary.  I don't want to lift my hands from
the keyboard to fondle the pointing device.  Currently I use the arrow
keys but this has (at least) two disadvantages:

1. Claws will try to fetch and render every message in between which can
take a while if they're large.

2. Every message in between will potentially be marked read.  This can
be helped with the "Mark message as read when selected, after ..."
setting, but that has its own disadvantages :-(

So, I am looking for a way to jump directly to a particular message,
without clicking on it.  For example. in Gnus (and maybe in Mutt, not
sure) you can type a sequence like "1 2 3 g" to jump to message #123.
Is there something like it in Claws?  If not, should there be?

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From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au  Sun Nov  9 08:54:26 2014
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 18:54:26 +1100
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141107231507.5bd7c45c.itz@buug.org>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141105142242.54fc7f6e@PPlive>
 <20141104223045.4f1dc64c@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141108173557.0af6bf54@PPlive>
 <20141107231507.5bd7c45c.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20141109185426.1d86c85d@PPlive>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 23:15:07 -0800
Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:

> On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 17:35:57 +1100,
> blind Pete <peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Pete> Would it be sensible to have syntax set to mail as the default
> Pete> configuration for each of the editors?
> 
> See my signature for how I do it with Emacs.

So, the drop down list should contain the lines; 

gvim "+set syntax=mail" '%s'
emacs mode:claws-external %s
xemacs mode:claws-external %s

Other lines probably need to be adjusted by someone who knows.  
The "kterm -e vi" line probably wants a "+set syntax=mail" as well.  
Which source file need to be edited, I have no idea.  

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Nov  9 13:05:39 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 12:05:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141109185426.1d86c85d@PPlive>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141105142242.54fc7f6e@PPlive>
 <20141104223045.4f1dc64c@cel.celehner.com>
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 <20141107231507.5bd7c45c.itz@buug.org>
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Message-ID: <20141109120539.1a451d5e@thewildbeast>

On Sun, 9 Nov 2014 18:54:26 +1100
blind Pete <peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au> wrote: 

> So, the drop down list should contain the lines; 

No, those are examples of what you can write into that field. You are
not restricted to the items in the drop-down list.

with regards

Paul


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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Nov  9 13:08:48 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 12:08:48 +0000
Subject: [Users] Jump to an arbitrary message in folder?
In-Reply-To: <20141108213948.519ec840.itz@buug.org>
References: <20141108213948.519ec840.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20141109120848.02950249@thewildbeast>

On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 21:39:48 -0800
Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote: 

> 1. Claws will try to fetch and render every message in between
> which can take a while if they're large.
> 
> 2. Every message in between will potentially be marked read.  This
> can be helped with the "Mark message as read when selected,
> after ..." setting, but that has its own disadvantages :-(

You are forgetting the third option there, 'never', this will allow
you to move between messages without opening them. You open them by
pressing Enter.

with regards

Paul


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Nov  9 13:14:39 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2014 12:14:39 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3325] Password conversion from plaintext to encrypted
 does not handle ! as first char of plaintext password
In-Reply-To: <bug-3325-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3325-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3325-595-aS3zbrwGQf@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3325

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
(In reply to comment #0)
>  Should be a simple fix, I haven't looked at the code.

Waiting for your patch, in that case.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Nov  9 13:16:22 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2014 12:16:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3324] Frequent seg faults when using NNTP
In-Reply-To: <bug-3324-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3324-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3324-595-QXF6SlcN3e@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3324

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
See this: http://claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Debugging_Claws

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From berndth at gmx.de  Sun Nov  9 14:36:10 2014
From: berndth at gmx.de (Holger Berndt)
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 14:36:10 +0100
Subject: [Users] Use python-plugin to force tab-completion for
 adress-search
In-Reply-To: <20141105152729.GT13794@trasgu>
References: <20140924212804.4a9928e3@bim.hgs42> <20141105152729.GT13794@trasgu>
Message-ID: <20141109143610.1e16a432@wodan>

On Mi, 05.11.2014 16:27, Ricardo Mones wrote:

>I don't think python plugin allows to provide python methods as callbacks
>for those hooks, though. Maybe I'm wrong here, or maybe the python plugin
>developer is willing to extend it to allow this.
>
>This could in fact represent a major feature, allowing to write whole
>plugins in python only :)

True, I had this on the agenda for  quite a while now, but never ended
up working on this.

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From itz at buug.org  Sun Nov  9 18:37:15 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 09:37:15 -0800
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141109185426.1d86c85d@PPlive>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
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Message-ID: <20141109093715.70323f32.itz@buug.org>

On Sun, 9 Nov 2014 18:54:26 +1100,
blind Pete <peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au> wrote:

Pete> So, the drop down list should contain the lines; 

> gvim "+set syntax=mail" '%s'
> emacs mode:claws-external %s
> xemacs mode:claws-external %s

No.  Emacs is not a clone of vi.  It doesn't support passing the mode on
the command line in the same way.  That's what I was trying to say with
my post.

The closest analogue would be something like

emacs --file %s --funcall claws-external-mode

but there are complications, particularly when one uses the emacs
server.  That's why I prefer the local variables trick instead.

Besides, claws-external-mode is something I wrote and haven't shared
with anyone (yet).

In summary, I don't think this is something that should be preset by
Claws.  There are too many different users, editors, and options.

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From itz at buug.org  Sun Nov  9 18:50:16 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 09:50:16 -0800
Subject: [Users] Jump to an arbitrary message in folder?
In-Reply-To: <20141109120848.02950249@thewildbeast>
References: <20141108213948.519ec840.itz@buug.org>
 <20141109120848.02950249@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141109095016.41de5dec.itz@buug.org>

On Sun, 9 Nov 2014 12:08:48 +0000,
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

Ian> 1. Claws will try to fetch and render every message in between
Ian> which can take a while if they're large.

Ian> 2. Every message in between will potentially be marked read.  This
Ian> can be helped with the "Mark message as read when selected, after
Ian> ..." setting, but that has its own disadvantages :-(

Paul> You are forgetting the third option there, 'never', this will
Paul> allow you to move between messages without opening them. You open
Paul> them by pressing Enter.

Thanks for your reply.

If I did forget about it, it was because it is too cumbersome for me.
To make "cumbersome" more precise, the total number of keystrokes I'd
use in a session with my present options but with "never" is much larger
than the number I'd use in a session with my present options and with
the hypothetical(?) Jump command.

So, my question (and potentially a feature request) stands.

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From pf at pfortin.com  Sun Nov  9 21:56:09 2014
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 15:56:09 -0500
Subject: [Users] Jump to an arbitrary message in folder?
In-Reply-To: <20141109095016.41de5dec.itz@buug.org>
References: <20141108213948.519ec840.itz@buug.org>
 <20141109120848.02950249@thewildbeast>
 <20141109095016.41de5dec.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20141109155609.4dd2f892@pfortin.com>

On Sun, 9 Nov 2014 09:50:16 -0800 Ian Zimmerman wrote:

>On Sun, 9 Nov 2014 12:08:48 +0000,
>Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
>
>Ian> 1. Claws will try to fetch and render every message in between
>Ian> which can take a while if they're large.
>
>Ian> 2. Every message in between will potentially be marked read.  This
>Ian> can be helped with the "Mark message as read when selected, after
>Ian> ..." setting, but that has its own disadvantages :-(
>
>Paul> You are forgetting the third option there, 'never', this will
>Paul> allow you to move between messages without opening them. You open
>Paul> them by pressing Enter.
>
>Thanks for your reply.
>
>If I did forget about it, it was because it is too cumbersome for me.
>To make "cumbersome" more precise, the total number of keystrokes I'd
>use in a session with my present options but with "never" is much larger
>than the number I'd use in a session with my present options and with
>the hypothetical(?) Jump command.
>
>So, my question (and potentially a feature request) stands.
>

Dunno if this will work for you...

Preferences->Display->Summaries
   Open message when selected: Never
   Mark message as read: when selected, after 0 seconds (default IIRC)

With a message selected, hover mouse over View->Open and press Alt+UpArrow

Open a message using Alt+UpArrow, then in that window, hover mouse over
File->Close and press Alt+DownArrow

Press Alt+DownArrow to close the message.


Now...   move between messages using Up/Down and open with Return; or with
Alt+Up/Alt+Down to open in a new window -- closing may depend on how your
mouse focus is setup...  i.e., in my setup, mouse focus has to be where
window opens.

So just up/down arrows and Alt key to open, scroll and close a message.


Oh yeah...  close and restart CM or you could lose these settings as I
just did due to a segfault...  time to get latest... :)

HTH,
Pierre


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Nov  9 22:13:27 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2014 21:13:27 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3324] Frequent seg faults when using NNTP
In-Reply-To: <bug-3324-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3324-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3324-595-aEZ6a19AkM@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3324

--- Comment #2 from Marvin <marvint.roebuck at inbox.lv> ---
Followed the intsructions but could not get a crash. I suspect that gdb
serializes away the code path that leads to a crash. I could not get a crash
just running without gdb either though. So -g might also effect the outcome.
Perhaps that's a clue but not much of one I know. I'll try gdb -p <pid> and see
if that is different. If you have any other ideas I will try them if I'm able.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Nov  9 22:15:46 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2014 21:15:46 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3325] Password conversion from plaintext to encrypted
 does not handle ! as first char of plaintext password
In-Reply-To: <bug-3325-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3325-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3325-595-BSo7USZ45x@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3325

--- Comment #2 from Marvin <marvint.roebuck at inbox.lv> ---
Good point but maybe I meant "should be simple, for someone that knows the
code".
Can you point me to the code to look at? I did look around a little.

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From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au  Mon Nov 10 07:06:27 2014
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:06:27 +1100
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141109120539.1a451d5e@thewildbeast>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141105142242.54fc7f6e@PPlive>
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Message-ID: <20141110170627.752344f1@PPlive>

On Sun, 9 Nov 2014 12:05:39 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 9 Nov 2014 18:54:26 +1100
> blind Pete <peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au> wrote: 
> 
> > So, the drop down list should contain the lines; 
> 
> No, those are examples of what you can write into that field. You are
> not restricted to the items in the drop-down list.

That is exactly why they should contain non-obvious useful options
like, "put the editor into email mode".  Anyone can override it or
delete it, as they see fit, but _it_just_works_ for the newbie
_right_out_of_the_box_.  

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From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au  Mon Nov 10 07:24:50 2014
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:24:50 +1100
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141109093715.70323f32.itz@buug.org>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
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On Sun, 9 Nov 2014 09:37:15 -0800
Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 9 Nov 2014 18:54:26 +1100,
> blind Pete <peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Pete> So, the drop down list should contain the lines; 
> 
> > gvim "+set syntax=mail" '%s'
> > emacs mode:claws-external %s
> > xemacs mode:claws-external %s
> 
> No.  Emacs is not a clone of vi.  

I noticed.  Rumour says that emacs has a good audio interface, but I'm
hesitant to learn a whole new operating system (emacs) for it.  

> It doesn't support passing the mode
> on the command line in the same way.  That's what I was trying to say
> with my post.
> 
> The closest analogue would be something like
> 
> emacs --file %s --funcall claws-external-mode

Could you make a one liner using --execute or --eval ?  

> but there are complications, particularly when one uses the emacs
> server.  That's why I prefer the local variables trick instead.

Can you set a variable with something like, 
"set emacs.mode=email; emacs %s"?  
That would probably be very dependant on which shell was involved.  

> Besides, claws-external-mode is something I wrote and haven't shared
> with anyone (yet).
> 
> In summary, I don't think this is something that should be preset by
> Claws.  There are too many different users, editors, and options.

It would be a reasonable assumption that files from CM are emails.  

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Nov 10 08:58:51 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 07:58:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2796] add SCRAM-SHA-1 support
In-Reply-To: <bug-2796-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2796-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2796-595-Fin5cujKQW@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2796

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
For IMAP, we are limited by what libetpan supports, and I haven't found any
mention of even a plan to add SCRAM-SHA-1 support there.

For SMTP, I think this is doable. We will, however, need two things:

1. A good source for random numbers to generate good client nonce. We can
either use GnuTLS's gnutls_rand(), or directly read from /dev/urandom. That is
not portable to Windows, though, we'd have to use CryptGenRandom() on Windows,
or simply not support SCRAM-SHA-1 for Windows.

Using GnuTLS for this would of course mean that we would only support
SCRAM-SHA-1 if compiled with GnuTLS support.

2. SHA1 digest implementation. Again, we could use GnuTLS, libnettle (implies
additional dependency), or simply grab an implementation from e.g. nettle
library.

Thoughts?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Nov 10 09:02:25 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 08:02:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2796] add SCRAM-SHA-1 support
In-Reply-To: <bug-2796-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2796-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2796-595-emt98rhLe8@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2796

--- Comment #2 from Christian Hesse <mail at earthworm.de> ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> 2. SHA1 digest implementation. Again, we could use GnuTLS, libnettle
> (implies additional dependency), or simply grab an implementation from e.g.
> nettle library.

Looks like gnutls depends on nettle (at least the Arch Linux package does). So
there is no extra dependency for most users.

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From ricardo at mones.org  Mon Nov 10 09:26:23 2014
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 09:26:23 +0100
Subject: [Users] Use python-plugin to force tab-completion for
 adress-search
In-Reply-To: <20141109143610.1e16a432@wodan>
References: <20140924212804.4a9928e3@bim.hgs42> <20141105152729.GT13794@trasgu>
 <20141109143610.1e16a432@wodan>
Message-ID: <20141110082623.GA13794@trasgu>

On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 02:36:10PM +0100, Holger Berndt wrote:
> On Mi, 05.11.2014 16:27, Ricardo Mones wrote:
> 
> >I don't think python plugin allows to provide python methods as callbacks
> >for those hooks, though. Maybe I'm wrong here, or maybe the python plugin
> >developer is willing to extend it to allow this.
> >
> >This could in fact represent a major feature, allowing to write whole
> >plugins in python only :)
> 
> True, I had this on the agenda for  quite a while now, but never ended
> up working on this.

I'd love to see this, but to be honest I don't known about python plugin
internals and have no idea how to tackle the problem. Anyway if you find
the time and motivation, count with me for testing.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Nov 10 09:56:24 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 08:56:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2796] add SCRAM-SHA-1 support
In-Reply-To: <bug-2796-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2796-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2796-595-USuJuULQpb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2796

--- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
(In reply to comment #2)
> Looks like gnutls depends on nettle (at least the Arch Linux package does).
> So there is no extra dependency for most users.

Unfortunately, that isn't the case on Debian (at least on stable wheezy) -the
GnuTLS library itself does not depend on nettle. Only the gnutls-bin package
with various utility programs does. But anyway, if we decide to explicitly use
functions from nettle library, we would have to explicitly add a check for it
in configure.

There is another option for getting SHA1 which I forgot: Glib 2.30 adds support
for HMAC digests[1], so we could use those, if we bump our minimum Glib version
requirement from current 2.20 to 2.30. I'm not sure if that's a good idea,
though just for one additional authentication method.

1. https://developer.gnome.org/glib/stable/glib-Data-HMACs.html

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From ricardo at mones.org  Mon Nov 10 09:56:32 2014
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 09:56:32 +0100
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141110172450.535f8daa@PPlive>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141105142242.54fc7f6e@PPlive>
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 <20141109093715.70323f32.itz@buug.org>
 <20141110172450.535f8daa@PPlive>
Message-ID: <20141110085632.GB13794@trasgu>

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 05:24:50PM +1100, blind Pete wrote:
[…]
> > In summary, I don't think this is something that should be preset by
> > Claws.  There are too many different users, editors, and options.
> 
> It would be a reasonable assumption that files from CM are emails.  

But fact is that external editor is used for more kind of files than
just email messages.

regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  Don't take the name of root in vain.          /usr/src/linux/README

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From bugreporter at abwesend.de  Mon Nov 10 11:14:02 2014
From: bugreporter at abwesend.de (Michael Schwendt)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:14:02 +0100
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141110170627.752344f1@PPlive>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141105142242.54fc7f6e@PPlive>
 <20141104223045.4f1dc64c@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141108173557.0af6bf54@PPlive>
 <20141107231507.5bd7c45c.itz@buug.org>
 <20141109185426.1d86c85d@PPlive>
 <20141109120539.1a451d5e@thewildbeast>
 <20141110170627.752344f1@PPlive>
Message-ID: <20141110111402.304be22b@gmx.net>

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:06:27 +1100, blind Pete wrote:

> > > So, the drop down list should contain the lines; 
> > 
> > No, those are examples of what you can write into that field. You are
> > not restricted to the items in the drop-down list.
> 
> That is exactly why they should contain non-obvious useful options
> like, "put the editor into email mode".  Anyone can override it or
> delete it, as they see fit, but _it_just_works_ for the newbie
> _right_out_of_the_box_.  

Doubtful. A newbie would use the internal editor and certainly not Emacs
or Vi and its derivatives.   And anyone, who reconfigures Claws Mail to
use an external editor will likely activate personal preferences anyway.


From andrej at kacian.sk  Mon Nov 10 11:45:23 2014
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:45:23 +0100
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141110111402.304be22b@gmx.net>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141105142242.54fc7f6e@PPlive>
 <20141104223045.4f1dc64c@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141108173557.0af6bf54@PPlive>
 <20141107231507.5bd7c45c.itz@buug.org>
 <20141109185426.1d86c85d@PPlive>
 <20141109120539.1a451d5e@thewildbeast>
 <20141110170627.752344f1@PPlive> <20141110111402.304be22b@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <20141110114523.56ffb862@hiker>

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:14:02 +0100
Michael Schwendt <bugreporter at abwesend.de> wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:06:27 +1100, blind Pete wrote:
> 
> > > > So, the drop down list should contain the lines; 
> > > 
> > > No, those are examples of what you can write into that field. You
> > > are not restricted to the items in the drop-down list.
> > 
> > That is exactly why they should contain non-obvious useful options
> > like, "put the editor into email mode".  Anyone can override it or
> > delete it, as they see fit, but _it_just_works_ for the newbie
> > _right_out_of_the_box_.  
> 
> Doubtful. A newbie would use the internal editor and certainly not
> Emacs or Vi and its derivatives.   And anyone, who reconfigures Claws
> Mail to use an external editor will likely activate personal
> preferences anyway.

I agree with Michael here. A mention of such options for various popular
editors should probably go in the manual or a FAQ instead, so that any
interested newbie can get inspired.

-- 
Andrej


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Nov 10 14:24:05 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 13:24:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3098] Please add support for basic HTTP authentication
In-Reply-To: <bug-3098-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3098-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3098-595-Ys411QQLBf@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3098

--- Comment #1 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
This can be partially achieved with the .netrc support included in 3.11.1.
Just add a line:

machine <feedsite> login <yourlogin> password <yourpass>

to your ~/.netrc file¹. If the feed URL is
"http://www.company.com/news/feed.rss" the <feedsite> would be just
"www.company.com".

This only supports one user/password per site, not per feed, as a proper
implementation would require, but can work in some places.

¹ http://curl.haxx.se/docs/manpage.html

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Nov 10 15:24:21 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 14:24:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2577] Focus rectangle on folder list and message list
 headings doesn't get properly cleared when switching heading and
 horizontally scrolling list (underlines and vertical lines remain on
 screen)
In-Reply-To: <bug-2577-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2577-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2577-595-XV6vO1gX8e@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2577

--- Comment #35 from Andreas Rönnquist <gusnan at gusnan.se> ---
An image of the effects of that latest patch above, before and after:

http://www.gusnan.se/images/claws-mail-patch-difference.png

To reproduce the problem, Shift Down and Shift Up right after in the message
list, without releasing the shift key. (The problem might not be visible on all
GTK themes, I don't really know).

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Nov 10 17:33:24 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:33:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3326] New: customizing keyboard shortcuts collides
 with menu shortcuts
Message-ID: <bug-3326-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3326

            Bug ID: 3326
           Summary: customizing keyboard shortcuts collides with menu
                    shortcuts
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.10.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: bluedzins at wp.pl

Due do the defining keyboard shortcuts on live (running) program in case of
selecting active key there is a conflict:
* should program execute this keyboard shortcut
* or should it define it as keyboard shortcut

For example for "Compose an email message" and keyboard shortcut "N" the first
option wins -- meaning it is impossible to bind such shortcut to this menu.

To reproduce.
* turn Claws into customizable keyboard mode
* select "Message" menu
* move mouse over "Compose an email message"
* press N
* get back to "Message menu"
* the shortcut was not changed -- BUG

(from my experience -- defining keyboard shortcuts should be done in separate
window, when you can interpret all the input by yourself).

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From barry at python.org  Mon Nov 10 18:53:47 2014
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:53:47 -0500
Subject: [Users] External editor?
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141105142242.54fc7f6e@PPlive>
 <20141104223045.4f1dc64c@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141108173557.0af6bf54@PPlive>
 <20141107231507.5bd7c45c.itz@buug.org>
 <20141109185426.1d86c85d@PPlive>
 <20141109093715.70323f32.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20141110125347.7cec695a@anarchist.wooz.org>

On Nov 09, 2014, at 09:37 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote:

>No.  Emacs is not a clone of vi.  It doesn't support passing the mode on
>the command line in the same way.  That's what I was trying to say with
>my post.
>
>The closest analogue would be something like
>
>emacs --file %s --funcall claws-external-mode
>
>but there are complications, particularly when one uses the emacs
>server.  That's why I prefer the local variables trick instead.

Here's my dumb way of setting this up in emacs.  I've had this chunk of code
for years, so there are probably better ways of doing it, but it WFM.

Cheers,
-Barry

(defun baw-os-path-split (filename)
  "Convert a file name into a list of its path components."
  (let ((path filename)
        last dir parts)
    (while path
      (setq last (file-name-nondirectory path)
            dir (file-name-directory path))
      ;; Remove any trailing slash.
      (if dir
          (setq path (substring (file-name-directory path) 0 -1))
        (setq path dir))
      (push last parts))
    parts))

(defun baw-server-visit-hook ()
  (let* ((filename (buffer-file-name))
         (parts (and filename (reverse (baw-os-path-split filename))))
         firstpart)
    (when parts
      (setq firstpart (pop parts))
      (when (and (>= (length firstpart) 6)
                 (string-equal (substring firstpart 0 6) "tmpmsg")
                 (string-equal (pop parts) "tmp")
                 (string-equal (pop parts) ".claws-mail"))
        ;; Claws mail temporary buffers should be mail buffers for syntax
        ;; highlighting.  I may want to turn off whitespace mode and other
        ;; syntax highlighting, but I'm not sure yet.
        (mail-mode))
      )))
(add-hook 'server-visit-hook 'baw-server-visit-hook)
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Nov 10 20:08:31 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 19:08:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3325] Password conversion from plaintext to encrypted
 does not handle ! as first char of plaintext password
In-Reply-To: <bug-3325-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3325-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3325-595-nC1NzMePAp@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3325

--- Comment #3 from Marvin <marvint.roebuck at inbox.lv> ---
I've looked some more and ended up looking at passcrypt. I'm wondering if it's
something to do with gchar which is c char which is by default signed on gcc
but in passcrypt the crypt functions want unsigned.

When I encountered the problem my first thought was that some escaping of !
didn't happen somewhere but I don't find anything to support that thought.

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From itz at buug.org  Mon Nov 10 20:29:59 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:29:59 -0800
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141110125347.7cec695a@anarchist.wooz.org>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141105142242.54fc7f6e@PPlive>
 <20141104223045.4f1dc64c@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141108173557.0af6bf54@PPlive>
 <20141107231507.5bd7c45c.itz@buug.org>
 <20141109185426.1d86c85d@PPlive>
 <20141109093715.70323f32.itz@buug.org>
 <20141110125347.7cec695a@anarchist.wooz.org>
Message-ID: <20141110112959.02f16fae.itz@buug.org>

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:53:47 -0500,
Barry Warsaw <barry at python.org> wrote:

Barry> Here's my dumb way of setting this up in emacs.  I've had this
Barry> chunk of code for years, so there are probably better ways of
Barry> doing it, but it WFM.

> (defun baw-os-path-split (filename)
>   "Convert a file name into a list of its path components."
>   (let ((path filename)
>         last dir parts)
>     (while path
>       (setq last (file-name-nondirectory path)
>             dir (file-name-directory path))
>       ;; Remove any trailing slash.
>       (if dir
>           (setq path (substring (file-name-directory path) 0 -1))
>         (setq path dir))
>       (push last parts))
>     parts))

> (defun baw-server-visit-hook ()
>   (let* ((filename (buffer-file-name))
>          (parts (and filename (reverse (baw-os-path-split filename))))
>          firstpart)
>     (when parts
>       (setq firstpart (pop parts))
>       (when (and (>= (length firstpart) 6)
>                  (string-equal (substring firstpart 0 6) "tmpmsg")
>                  (string-equal (pop parts) "tmp")
>                  (string-equal (pop parts) ".claws-mail"))
>         ;; Claws mail temporary buffers should be mail buffers for syntax
>         ;; highlighting.  I may want to turn off whitespace mode and other
>         ;; syntax highlighting, but I'm not sure yet.
>         (mail-mode))
>       )))
> (add-hook 'server-visit-hook 'baw-server-visit-hook)

That's a very nice way too, yes.  But then it works _only_ if you're
connecting to a daemon emacs.  My "editor" is actually a script that
execs emacsclient if the daemon is up, and full emacs otherwise.

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From abrolag at users.sourceforge.net  Mon Nov 10 20:43:01 2014
From: abrolag at users.sourceforge.net (Abrolag)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 19:43:01 +0000
Subject: [Users] Bug? in V3.8.1
In-Reply-To: <20141102115241.48e1b2db@debian>
References: <20141102115241.48e1b2db@debian>
Message-ID: <20141110194301.7680dc2a@debian>

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 11:52:41 +0000
Abrolag <abrolag at users.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> When setting up a processing rule I tired to set age greater than 1500 (approx
> 4 years) but when trying to add it this changed to 1000.
> 
> However, I can change the completed entry to what I want and replace it.

Nobody had this?

Nobody interested?

-- 
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Mon Nov 10 21:01:48 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 21:01:48 +0100
Subject: [Users] Bug? in V3.8.1
In-Reply-To: <20141110194301.7680dc2a@debian>
References: <20141102115241.48e1b2db@debian> <20141110194301.7680dc2a@debian>
Message-ID: <20141110210148.2f256b17@archlinux>

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 19:43:01 +0000
Abrolag <abrolag at users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 11:52:41 +0000
> Abrolag <abrolag at users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> > When setting up a processing rule I tired to set age greater than
> > 1500 (approx 4 years) but when trying to add it this changed to
> > 1000.
> > 
> > However, I can change the completed entry to what I want and
> > replace it.
> 
> Nobody had this?
> 
> Nobody interested?

I'm in a transitional phase, switching from Evolution to Claws, no
Claws account mails are older than a month :D. Hopefully some people
are using Claws for a longer time then just 4 years. If not, there
likely is a reason and I should consider to stay with Evolution ;).


From danlyke at flutterby.com  Mon Nov 10 21:06:41 2014
From: danlyke at flutterby.com (Dan Lyke)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:06:41 -0800
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141110112959.02f16fae.itz@buug.org>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141105142242.54fc7f6e@PPlive>
 <20141104223045.4f1dc64c@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141108173557.0af6bf54@PPlive>
 <20141107231507.5bd7c45c.itz@buug.org>
 <20141109185426.1d86c85d@PPlive>
 <20141109093715.70323f32.itz@buug.org>
 <20141110125347.7cec695a@anarchist.wooz.org>
 <20141110112959.02f16fae.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <CAEnBMPZ+mv3Ehhzd-W8mvaMtH0GLOwr3vhTTjM5mVkDJpC=ekw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:
> That's a very nice way too, yes.  But then it works _only_ if you're
> connecting to a daemon emacs.  My "editor" is actually a script that
> execs emacsclient if the daemon is up, and full emacs otherwise.

So would y'all consider a Wiki page or something on best practices for
Emacs with Claws-Mail? I'm still using the internal editor, but I'd
like to become a better Emacs user too, and tying all of these
suggestions together would be a useful exercise...


From pg.nikolic1 at gmail.com  Mon Nov 10 21:34:25 2014
From: pg.nikolic1 at gmail.com (pete nikolic)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 20:34:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] Bug? in V3.8.1
In-Reply-To: <20141110210148.2f256b17@archlinux>
References: <20141102115241.48e1b2db@debian> <20141110194301.7680dc2a@debian>
 <20141110210148.2f256b17@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141110203425.4c1412c0@7-of-9>

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 21:01:48 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 19:43:01 +0000
> Abrolag <abrolag at users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 11:52:41 +0000
> > Abrolag <abrolag at users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> > > When setting up a processing rule I tired to set age greater than
> > > 1500 (approx 4 years) but when trying to add it this changed to
> > > 1000.
> > > 
> > > However, I can change the completed entry to what I want and
> > > replace it.
> > 
> > Nobody had this?
> > 
> > Nobody interested?
> 
> I'm in a transitional phase, switching from Evolution to Claws, no
> Claws account mails are older than a month :D. Hopefully some people
> are using Claws for a longer time then just 4 years. If not, there
> likely is a reason and I should consider to stay with Evolution ;).
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users at lists.claws-mail.org
> http://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users


Not seen it here    claws-mail for too long now     


Pete .

-- 
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Noli nothis permittere te terere. 


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Nov 10 21:45:22 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 20:45:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3327] New: Please add template type
Message-ID: <bug-3327-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3327

            Bug ID: 3327
           Summary: Please add template type
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.10.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Tools
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: bluedzins at wp.pl

Current template design while being useful does not let fully use it potential
-- mainly automatize its usage.

So please add type of template and make template first grade citizen in Claws,
meaning template could be executed.

This is for example implemented in KDE 3.5 KMail.

So example:
* I define a template, and define it as a reply
* I execute this template later, and I land directly in composer with this
template

Because templates are first grade citizens, I can assign keyboard shortcuts, I
can add them on toolbar, etc.

For those who prefer current Claws behavior, it could be pretty well added --
type by default could be "none", and defining this field would not be required.

Later user could only execute those templates where type!=none.

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From andrej at kacian.sk  Mon Nov 10 21:56:16 2014
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 21:56:16 +0100
Subject: [Users] Bug? in V3.8.1
In-Reply-To: <20141110194301.7680dc2a@debian>
References: <20141102115241.48e1b2db@debian> <20141110194301.7680dc2a@debian>
Message-ID: <20141110215616.7aa406f1@penny>

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 19:43:01 +0000
Abrolag <abrolag at users.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 11:52:41 +0000
> Abrolag <abrolag at users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> 
> > When setting up a processing rule I tired to set age greater than
> > 1500 (approx 4 years) but when trying to add it this changed to
> > 1000.
> > 
> > However, I can change the completed entry to what I want and
> > replace it.
> 
> Nobody had this?
> 
> Nobody interested?
> 

It is only a limitation of that particular UI spinner widget. I have
increased it now, next release will have it at 10000 days. Hopefully
that will be enough. :)

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From abrolag at users.sourceforge.net  Mon Nov 10 22:02:35 2014
From: abrolag at users.sourceforge.net (Abrolag)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 21:02:35 +0000
Subject: [Users] Bug? in V3.8.1
In-Reply-To: <20141110215616.7aa406f1@penny>
References: <20141102115241.48e1b2db@debian> <20141110194301.7680dc2a@debian>
 <20141110215616.7aa406f1@penny>
Message-ID: <20141110210235.1cd9132d@debian>

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 21:56:16 +0100
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 19:43:01 +0000
> Abrolag <abrolag at users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 11:52:41 +0000
> > Abrolag <abrolag at users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > When setting up a processing rule I tired to set age greater than
> > > 1500 (approx 4 years) but when trying to add it this changed to
> > > 1000.
> > > 
> > > However, I can change the completed entry to what I want and
> > > replace it.
> > 
> > Nobody had this?
> > 
> > Nobody interested?
> > 
> 
> It is only a limitation of that particular UI spinner widget. I have
> increased it now, next release will have it at 10000 days. Hopefully
> that will be enough. :)

Thanks very much for this - and the explanation. Now I know it's not a problem
I'm much happier :) 

-- 
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.


From avrunin at math.umass.edu  Mon Nov 10 22:43:46 2014
From: avrunin at math.umass.edu (George Avrunin)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:43:46 -0500
Subject: [Users] order of names in tab-completion
Message-ID: <20141110164346.177ec9a1@ext.math.umass.edu>

I've just updated to 3.11.1 on Fedora 20, from 3.10.1 and encountered a
problem with the new tab-completion on addresses.

I have a correspondent who has the following addresses (with the actual name
obfuscated):
     name at gmail.com
     name at cs.cmu.edu
     name at andrew.cmu.edu
     different_name at comcast.net
All these addresses are current and work, but most of my current
correspondence with her goes to the gmail address.  Occasionally, when
there's been an issue with connectivity or with CC addressees who should see
only one of the other addresses, I need to use one of the CMU addresses or
even the Comcast one.

I had an addressbook entry with the person's name and the email addresses
listed in this order.  When I would type the person's first name and hit
<tab>, the addresses would be offered for completion in this order and I only
had to hit <enter>, except in the unusual cases where I needed one of the
other addresses.   But with 3.11.1, the names come up in reverse order, and I
have to select the gmail address with the mouse or the arrow keys. 

Using the addressbook feature that allows changing the order in which the
email addresses are listed in the addressbook entry for that person has no
effect on the order in which the names are offered in tab-completion.  

Is there a way to control the order in which tab-completion offers the
names?   If not, what's the purpose of being able to change the order in the
addressbook entry?  

I also have two people in my addressbook with first name Stefan, one who's
last name starts with C and one whose last name starts with L.  The first
one's email address starts with "c..." and the second's email address starts
with "Stefan.L....".  If I do tab-completion on "stefan", I get the second
person's address first.  This doesn't fit with my understanding of the new
ordering.  Is it because "stefan" matches "beginning of email address"? and
this comes ahead of the alphabetical stuff?  Is there a way to control the
order in which these names are offered by completion?

Thanks,

  George

     
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From andrej at kacian.sk  Mon Nov 10 23:06:49 2014
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:06:49 +0100
Subject: [Users] order of names in tab-completion
In-Reply-To: <20141110164346.177ec9a1@ext.math.umass.edu>
References: <20141110164346.177ec9a1@ext.math.umass.edu>
Message-ID: <20141110230649.146f6f26@penny>

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:43:46 -0500
George Avrunin <avrunin at math.umass.edu> wrote:

> I also have two people in my addressbook with first name Stefan, one
> who's last name starts with C and one whose last name starts with L.
> The first one's email address starts with "c..." and the second's
> email address starts with "Stefan.L....".  If I do tab-completion on
> "stefan", I get the second person's address first.  This doesn't fit
> with my understanding of the new ordering.  Is it because "stefan"
> matches "beginning of email address"? and this comes ahead of the
> alphabetical stuff?  Is there a way to control the order in which
> these names are offered by completion?

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3215
might bring more light into how the completion choices are ordered.

-- 
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From itz at buug.org  Mon Nov 10 22:59:47 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 13:59:47 -0800
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <CAEnBMPZ+mv3Ehhzd-W8mvaMtH0GLOwr3vhTTjM5mVkDJpC=ekw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141105142242.54fc7f6e@PPlive>
 <20141104223045.4f1dc64c@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141108173557.0af6bf54@PPlive>
 <20141107231507.5bd7c45c.itz@buug.org>
 <20141109185426.1d86c85d@PPlive>
 <20141109093715.70323f32.itz@buug.org>
 <20141110125347.7cec695a@anarchist.wooz.org>
 <20141110112959.02f16fae.itz@buug.org>
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Message-ID: <20141110135947.515c799a.itz@buug.org>

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:06:41 -0800,
Dan Lyke <danlyke at flutterby.com> wrote:

Dan> So would y'all consider a Wiki page or something on best practices
Dan> for Emacs with Claws-Mail? I'm still using the internal editor, but
Dan> I'd like to become a better Emacs user too, and tying all of these
Dan> suggestions together would be a useful exercise...

Wiki, hmm.  I will blog about it.  Maybe.

If there _is_ a wiki, I'll contribute.

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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Mon Nov 10 23:19:00 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:19:00 +0100
Subject: [Users] Bug? in V3.8.1
In-Reply-To: <20141110215616.7aa406f1@penny>
References: <20141102115241.48e1b2db@debian> <20141110194301.7680dc2a@debian>
 <20141110215616.7aa406f1@penny>
Message-ID: <20141110231900.3d333e61@archlinux>

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 21:56:16 +0100
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 19:43:01 +0000
> Abrolag <abrolag at users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 11:52:41 +0000
> > Abrolag <abrolag at users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > When setting up a processing rule I tired to set age greater than
> > > 1500 (approx 4 years) but when trying to add it this changed to
> > > 1000.
> > > 
> > > However, I can change the completed entry to what I want and
> > > replace it.
> > 
> > Nobody had this?
> > 
> > Nobody interested?
> > 
> 
> It is only a limitation of that particular UI spinner widget. I have
> increased it now, next release will have it at 10000 days. Hopefully
> that will be enough. :)

Is there a valid reason to limit it?
In a few days I likely become 48 years old, I'm a musician so
10000/365=27years, 27 years + 48 years = 75 years, this likely is
more than enough for my expected lifespan.
Anyway, some people are under 18 years old and they are living straight
edge, even while they are musicians too, they likely have a much longer
lifespan. Assumed some of those kids should use Claws too and one day
they want to search a few things that were between 30 years and 2
years in the past ...?
I'm not kidding. My generation skims through photo albums and then we
try to find old friends by the Internet. The young generation likely
will search their mails, when they are old and perhaps (perhaps not)
they have a clue about the decades of emails they should search.
You know, the Bible and other books wrote about historic events
hundreds of years after they happened, that's why human kind lost much
real historical information. We reached another level and even while
the assumption that nobody will use our kind of computers and maybe
also not Claws any more in a few decades, I don't understand why
limiting such a value is ok. Limit it to the expected time when the
sun will "burn out" ;)!

2 cents 


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Mon Nov 10 23:29:15 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:29:15 +0100
Subject: [Users] Bug? in V3.8.1
In-Reply-To: <20141110231900.3d333e61@archlinux>
References: <20141102115241.48e1b2db@debian> <20141110194301.7680dc2a@debian>
 <20141110215616.7aa406f1@penny> <20141110231900.3d333e61@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141110232915.37dd4e5b@archlinux>

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:19:00 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 21:56:16 +0100
> Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:
> > On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 19:43:01 +0000
> > Abrolag <abrolag at users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 11:52:41 +0000
> > > Abrolag <abrolag at users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > When setting up a processing rule I tired to set age greater
> > > > than 1500 (approx 4 years) but when trying to add it this
> > > > changed to 1000.
> > > > 
> > > > However, I can change the completed entry to what I want and
> > > > replace it.
> > > 
> > > Nobody had this?
> > > 
> > > Nobody interested?
> > > 
> > 
> > It is only a limitation of that particular UI spinner widget. I have
> > increased it now, next release will have it at 10000 days. Hopefully
> > that will be enough. :)
> 
> Is there a valid reason to limit it?
> In a few days I likely become 48 years old, I'm a musician so
> 10000/365=27years, 27 years + 48 years = 75 years, this likely is
> more than enough for my expected lifespan.
> Anyway, some people are under 18 years old and they are living
> straight edge, even while they are musicians too, they likely have a
> much longer lifespan. Assumed some of those kids should use Claws too
> and one day they want to search a few things that were between 30
> years and 2 years in the past ...?
> I'm not kidding. My generation skims through photo albums and then we
> try to find old friends by the Internet. The young generation likely
> will search their mails, when they are old and perhaps (perhaps not)
> they have a clue about the decades of emails they should search.
> You know, the Bible and other books wrote about historic events
> hundreds of years after they happened, that's why human kind lost much
> real historical information. We reached another level and even while
> the assumption that nobody will use our kind of computers and maybe
> also not Claws any more in a few decades,
Oops ... likely is true
> I don't understand why
> limiting such a value is ok. Limit it to the expected time when the
> sun will "burn out" ;)!

I still own C64 and Atari ST data and the gear to access the data.


From andrej at kacian.sk  Mon Nov 10 23:29:35 2014
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:29:35 +0100
Subject: [Users] Bug? in V3.8.1
In-Reply-To: <20141110231900.3d333e61@archlinux>
References: <20141102115241.48e1b2db@debian> <20141110194301.7680dc2a@debian>
 <20141110215616.7aa406f1@penny> <20141110231900.3d333e61@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141110232935.74679099@penny>

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:19:00 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> Is there a valid reason to limit it?

Not really, but the function that creates the widget requires some
upper limit.

Well, not exactly, it can exist without limits, but giving it only lower
limit without the upper one is not allowed - and since negative values
wouldn't make sense here, we need to have a lower limit of 0.

-- 
Andrej


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Tue Nov 11 00:00:23 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 00:00:23 +0100
Subject: [Users] Bug? in V3.8.1
In-Reply-To: <20141110232935.74679099@penny>
References: <20141102115241.48e1b2db@debian> <20141110194301.7680dc2a@debian>
 <20141110215616.7aa406f1@penny> <20141110231900.3d333e61@archlinux>
 <20141110232935.74679099@penny>
Message-ID: <20141111000023.3054ad50@archlinux>

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:29:35 +0100
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:19:00 +0100
> Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Is there a valid reason to limit it?
> 
> Not really, but the function that creates the widget requires some
> upper limit.
> 
> Well, not exactly, it can exist without limits, but giving it only
> lower limit without the upper one is not allowed - and since negative
> values wouldn't make sense here, we need to have a lower limit of 0.

I'm new to Claws, so I likely will be six feed under, before the limit
could become an issue for me. I don't know for how many years Claws
already exists, so my calculation might be not hard enough. Perhaps
others already have mails that are many years old + a longer lifespan.
With my old C64 and Atari data the date sometimes is a minor issue.

IOW if it should be much effort to rewrite the code to provide an
unlimited value, then IMO it's not worth the effort. Assumed it should
be easy to provide an unlimited value, consider to provide it.


From itz at buug.org  Tue Nov 11 00:23:53 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 15:23:53 -0800
Subject: [Users] Bug? in V3.8.1
In-Reply-To: <20141110232935.74679099@penny>
References: <20141102115241.48e1b2db@debian> <20141110194301.7680dc2a@debian>
 <20141110215616.7aa406f1@penny> <20141110231900.3d333e61@archlinux>
 <20141110232935.74679099@penny>
Message-ID: <20141110152353.49daca69.itz@buug.org>

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:29:35 +0100,
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

Ralf> Is there a valid reason to limit it?

Andrej> Well, not exactly, it can exist without limits, but giving it
Andrej> only lower limit without the upper one is not allowed - and
Andrej> since negative values wouldn't make sense here, we need to have
Andrej> a lower limit of 0.

1. It is questionable that negative numbers really need to be banned.
The search will still work, basically any negative number works the same
as 0 in this context.

2. Even if you absolutely need an upper limit, it can be INT_MAX.

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From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au  Tue Nov 11 01:37:48 2014
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:37:48 +1100
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141110085632.GB13794@trasgu>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141105142242.54fc7f6e@PPlive>
 <20141104223045.4f1dc64c@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141108173557.0af6bf54@PPlive>
 <20141107231507.5bd7c45c.itz@buug.org>
 <20141109185426.1d86c85d@PPlive>
 <20141109093715.70323f32.itz@buug.org>
 <20141110172450.535f8daa@PPlive> <20141110085632.GB13794@trasgu>
Message-ID: <20141111113748.3922ff5e@PPlive>

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 09:56:32 +0100
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 05:24:50PM +1100, blind Pete wrote:
> […]
> > > In summary, I don't think this is something that should be preset
> > > by Claws.  There are too many different users, editors, and
> > > options.
> > 
> > It would be a reasonable assumption that files from CM are emails.  
> 
> But fact is that external editor is used for more kind of files than
> just email messages.

That is a strong argument.  

What else can the external editor be used for?  

Next question, with less hope of a good answer; what knows when about
what type of file is to be edited?  Can sensible hints be given, this
could get messy and impractical.  

-- 
testing
bP
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From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au  Tue Nov 11 01:56:30 2014
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:56:30 +1100
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141110111402.304be22b@gmx.net>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
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Message-ID: <20141111115630.4ff5947b@PPlive>

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:14:02 +0100
Michael Schwendt <bugreporter at abwesend.de> wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:06:27 +1100, blind Pete wrote:
> 
> > > > So, the drop down list should contain the lines; 
> > > 
> > > No, those are examples of what you can write into that field. You
> > > are not restricted to the items in the drop-down list.
> > 
> > That is exactly why they should contain non-obvious useful options
> > like, "put the editor into email mode".  Anyone can override it or
> > delete it, as they see fit, but _it_just_works_ for the newbie
> > _right_out_of_the_box_.  
> 
> Doubtful. A newbie would use the internal editor and certainly not
> Emacs or Vi and its derivatives.   And anyone, who reconfigures Claws
> Mail to use an external editor will likely activate personal
> preferences anyway. 

Because it is not obvious and they would not know about it that I was
suggesting it as a default.  

-- 
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From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Tue Nov 11 08:07:28 2014
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:07:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] Bug? in V3.8.1
In-Reply-To: <20141110232935.74679099@penny>
References: <20141102115241.48e1b2db@debian> <20141110194301.7680dc2a@debian>
 <20141110215616.7aa406f1@penny> <20141110231900.3d333e61@archlinux>
 <20141110232935.74679099@penny>
Message-ID: <20141111080728.0272138d@phoenix.squirrel.nl>

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:29:35 +0100
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:19:00 +0100
> Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Is there a valid reason to limit it?
> 
> Not really, but the function that creates the widget requires some
> upper limit.

I can imagine that a real high limit can make using the spinner
hard. Would it be an option to add a second spinner, counting years?

-- Johan


From itz at buug.org  Tue Nov 11 07:39:54 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:39:54 -0800
Subject: [Users] Jump to an arbitrary message in folder?
In-Reply-To: <20141108213948.519ec840.itz@buug.org>
References: <20141108213948.519ec840.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20141110223954.31d772ab.itz@buug.org>

On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 21:39:48 -0800,
Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:

Ian> This is one of of those things that are fairly minor, but because
Ian> they happen all the time the stress of fighting them accumulates.

Ian> Quite often I want to jump to some other message in the same
Ian> folder, based on what I see in the summary.  I don't want to lift
Ian> my hands from the keyboard to fondle the pointing device.
Ian> Currently I use the arrow keys but this has (at least) two
Ian> disadvantages:

Ian> 1. Claws will try to fetch and render every message in between
Ian> which can take a while if they're large.

Ian> 2. Every message in between will potentially be marked read.  This
Ian> can be helped with the "Mark message as read when selected, after
Ian> ..."  setting, but that has its own disadvantages :-(

Ian> So, I am looking for a way to jump directly to a particular
Ian> message, without clicking on it.  For example. in Gnus (and maybe
Ian> in Mutt, not sure) you can type a sequence like "1 2 3 g" to jump
Ian> to message #123.  Is there something like it in Claws?  If not,
Ian> should there be?

Attached is a patch adding a new search type, "message number is
greater/smaller/equal", and a corresponding "advanced" abbreviation
"Mg/Ms/Me".  With this, jumping directly to a particular message # can
be done by switching to the search dialog and typing "Me 123 <Enter>".
While still not as brief as the Gnus way, it may be good enough for me,
and I think it fits well with the rest of Claws UI.

I'd be happy to see this merged into the official source, and I'm ready
to address reasonable style objections that are pointed out.

Happy jumping, i

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From jvromans at squirrel.nl  Tue Nov 11 08:21:28 2014
From: jvromans at squirrel.nl (Johan Vromans)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:21:28 +0100
Subject: [Users] Bug? in V3.8.1
In-Reply-To: <20141111000023.3054ad50@archlinux>
References: <20141102115241.48e1b2db@debian> <20141110194301.7680dc2a@debian>
 <20141110215616.7aa406f1@penny> <20141110231900.3d333e61@archlinux>
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 00:00:23 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> I'm new to Claws, so I likely will be six feed under, before the limit
> could become an issue for me. I don't know for how many years Claws
> already exists, so my calculation might be not hard enough.

As you may have guessed, it is not related to Claws. My oldest mail
archives are almost 30 years old and have been migrated several
times between different mail systems and their archival storage
formats.

Having said that, I must admit that I seldom issue searches that have
timespans similar to "between 12 and 14 years old". It is usually
easier to just search for "anything older than 10 years" than to
remember the required timespan :) .

-- Johan


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Nov 11 09:48:47 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:48:47 +0000
Subject: [Users] order of names in tab-completion
In-Reply-To: <20141110230649.146f6f26@penny>
References: <20141110164346.177ec9a1@ext.math.umass.edu>
 <20141110230649.146f6f26@penny>
Message-ID: <20141111084847.138afe61@thewildbeast>

Here also: http://www.claws-mail.org/news.php

-- 
Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières


From ricardo at mones.org  Tue Nov 11 11:15:46 2014
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:15:46 +0100
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141111113748.3922ff5e@PPlive>
References: <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141105142242.54fc7f6e@PPlive>
 <20141104223045.4f1dc64c@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141108173557.0af6bf54@PPlive>
 <20141107231507.5bd7c45c.itz@buug.org>
 <20141109185426.1d86c85d@PPlive>
 <20141109093715.70323f32.itz@buug.org>
 <20141110172450.535f8daa@PPlive> <20141110085632.GB13794@trasgu>
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Message-ID: <20141111101546.GC13794@trasgu>

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:37:48AM +1100, blind Pete wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 09:56:32 +0100
> Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 05:24:50PM +1100, blind Pete wrote:
> > […]
> > > > In summary, I don't think this is something that should be preset
> > > > by Claws.  There are too many different users, editors, and
> > > > options.
> > > 
> > > It would be a reasonable assumption that files from CM are emails.  
> > 
> > But fact is that external editor is used for more kind of files than
> > just email messages.
> 
> That is a strong argument.  
> 
> What else can the external editor be used for?  

Right off the top of my head: opening text or any other type of
generic attachments, editing mail signatures, and editing stylesheets
in fancy plugin.

Probably more.

> Next question, with less hope of a good answer; what knows when about
> what type of file is to be edited?  Can sensible hints be given, this
> could get messy and impractical.  

I think most (full featured) editors already guess the type of files
and dont need or even accept hints.

regards,
-- 
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  00:45 < hammar> cool.. have you used rssyl?                          
  00:46 <@Ticho> um, yes                            Seen on #sylpheed

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From kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com  Tue Nov 11 12:14:35 2014
From: kushwaha at netsolutionsindia.com (Abhay S. Kushwaha)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:44:35 +0530
Subject: [Users] order of names in tab-completion
In-Reply-To: <20141110230649.146f6f26@penny>
References: <20141110164346.177ec9a1@ext.math.umass.edu>
 <20141110230649.146f6f26@penny>
Message-ID: <20141111164435.3a034751@netsolutionsindia.com>

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:06:49 +0100, Andrej wrote:

> > I also have two people in my addressbook with first name Stefan,
> > one who's last name starts with C and one whose last name starts
> > with L. The first one's email address starts with "c..." and the
> > second's email address starts with "Stefan.L....".  If I do
> > tab-completion on "stefan", I get the second person's address
> > first.  This doesn't fit with my understanding of the new
> > ordering.  Is it because "stefan" matches "beginning of email
> > address"? and this comes ahead of the alphabetical stuff?  Is
> > there a way to control the order in which these names are offered
> > by completion?
> 
> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3215
> might bring more light into how the completion choices are ordered.

Also see & support:
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3254

;)



From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Nov 11 15:23:43 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:23:43 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3254] When Tab-Completing,
 give priority to order of email addresses in Address Book
In-Reply-To: <bug-3254-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3254-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3254-595-aOdMB58xFM@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3254

George Avrunin <avrunin at math.umass.edu> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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                 CC|                            |avrunin at math.umass.edu

--- Comment #1 from George Avrunin <avrunin at math.umass.edu> ---
This change is causing problems for me with exactly the same use case: an
individual in the addressbook with several email addresses for different uses. 
There is now no way to prioritize one address--the arrows for changing the
order of the email addresses in the addressbook have no effect on the order in
which the addresses are offered in tab-completion.  It would be much more
flexible and useful (to me, at least) if I could use the addressbook to control
the order in which names are offered in tab completion.

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From avrunin at math.umass.edu  Tue Nov 11 15:28:35 2014
From: avrunin at math.umass.edu (George Avrunin)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:28:35 -0500
Subject: [Users] order of names in tab-completion
In-Reply-To: <20141111164435.3a034751@netsolutionsindia.com>
References: <20141110164346.177ec9a1@ext.math.umass.edu>
 <20141110230649.146f6f26@penny>
 <20141111164435.3a034751@netsolutionsindia.com>
Message-ID: <20141111092835.3b5182e3@g3.localdomain>

On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:44:35 +0530, Abhay S. Kushwaha wrote:

> Also see & support:
> http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3254
> 
> ;)

Thanks, I've added a comment (and put myself on the CC list).  For people
with multiple email addresses, it would be very helpful to be able to use 
the addressbook (or even something else) to control the order in which the
addresses are offered by tab-completion.

On the other issue, I understand why the address "Stefan.L..." is offered
before the other one.  I'll just have to get used to that, I guess.  (A
more general way to prioritize names in tab-completion would be great,
not just for multiple addresses for the same person, but I'm not sure even
what a good UI would be.)

  George


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Nov 11 15:29:40 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:29:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3328] New: Type "i" in Compose window opens Help
Message-ID: <bug-3328-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3328

            Bug ID: 3328
           Summary: Type "i" in Compose window opens Help
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.8.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: rlwbonsai at charter.net

When the character i is typed in the Compose window, either the Subject line or
in the body of the message, the Help window opens.  Close the Help window and
type the i again and it displays correctly without interference from the Help
window.  This behavior started when I changed keyboards to Cherry
G81-1800LPMUS-0/01.  I switched to Sylpheed for my MUA and have used it without
this problem for several months.  I would like to change back to Claws Mail for
other reasons but this behavior is unacceptable.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Nov 11 15:48:59 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:48:59 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3328] Type "i" in Compose window opens Help
In-Reply-To: <bug-3328-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3328-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3328-595-fCCdoGhWwM@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3328

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #1 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
To things to try:

1. Upgrade to the latest release: 3.11.1

If that doesn't change anything ...

2. Go to /Configuration/Preferences/Other/Miscellaneous, click 'Choose preset
keyboard shortcuts', then with 'Default' selected, click OK.

Re-open this bug report if it still occurs after having tried both the above.

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From rik.welter at gmail.com  Tue Nov 11 17:54:10 2014
From: rik.welter at gmail.com (RW@Gmail)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:54:10 +0100
Subject: [Users] NOOB question sorry: cannot get AddressKeeper to work...
Message-ID: <BA3E2F0B-4221-4746-82B1-FF81A4C2D653@gmail.com>

Sorry for maybe asking a very silly question, but I just can't make it work:

Having installed the AddressKeeper plugin, I have to name a folder in the settings of the AddressKeeper plugin.

What does this need to be? Is it the name of an Addressbook folder? Or is it the name of the folder in which the Addressbook is on my disk, in my case "~/.claws-mail/addrbook/".
Have thoroughly searched the internet for help without success....

I hope you guys can help me with this.

Thanks in advance...

Best regards, Rik

From ricardo at mones.org  Tue Nov 11 18:22:48 2014
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 18:22:48 +0100
Subject: [Users] NOOB question sorry: cannot get AddressKeeper to work...
In-Reply-To: <BA3E2F0B-4221-4746-82B1-FF81A4C2D653@gmail.com>
References: <BA3E2F0B-4221-4746-82B1-FF81A4C2D653@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20141111172248.GA6899@trasgu>

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 05:54:10PM +0100, RW at Gmail wrote:
> Sorry for maybe asking a very silly question, but I just can't make it work:
> 
> Having installed the AddressKeeper plugin, I have to name a folder in the settings of the AddressKeeper plugin.
> 
> What does this need to be? Is it the name of an Addressbook folder? Or is it the name of the folder in which the Addressbook is on my disk, in my case "~/.claws-mail/addrbook/".
> Have thoroughly searched the internet for help without success....
> 
> I hope you guys can help me with this.

Isn't it obvious from the title of the dialog which appears when
you click the “Select...” button next to that folder entry?

In case it's not: the former.

regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Tue Nov 11 18:41:41 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 18:41:41 +0100
Subject: [Users] NOOB question sorry: cannot get AddressKeeper to work...
In-Reply-To: <20141111172248.GA6899@trasgu>
References: <BA3E2F0B-4221-4746-82B1-FF81A4C2D653@gmail.com>
 <20141111172248.GA6899@trasgu>
Message-ID: <20141111184141.4b63c44f@archlinux>

On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 18:22:48 +0100
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 05:54:10PM +0100, RW at Gmail wrote:
> > Sorry for maybe asking a very silly question, but I just can't make
> > it work:
> > 
> > Having installed the AddressKeeper plugin, I have to name a folder
> > in the settings of the AddressKeeper plugin.
> > 
> > What does this need to be? Is it the name of an Addressbook folder?
> > Or is it the name of the folder in which the Addressbook is on my
> > disk, in my case "~/.claws-mail/addrbook/". Have thoroughly
> > searched the internet for help without success....
> > 
> > I hope you guys can help me with this.
> 
> Isn't it obvious from the title of the dialog which appears when
> you click the “Select...” button next to that folder entry?
> 
> In case it's not: the former.

I'm new to Claws too, fortunately I had no issues with this plugin. The
preferences dialog asked to chose an addressbook.

I decided to chose one of the too mentioned addressbooks and it works.

[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ ls -hAl ~/.claws-mail/addrbook/*
-rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse  22K Nov  8
11:38 /home/rocketmouse/.claws-mail/addrbook/417409462.png -rw------- 1
rocketmouse rocketmouse   96 Oct 29
18:53 /home/rocketmouse/.claws-mail/addrbook/addrbook-000001.xml
-rw------- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 3.7K Nov 11
18:23 /home/rocketmouse/.claws-mail/addrbook/addrbook-000002.xml
-rw------- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 3.4K Nov 11
18:20 /home/rocketmouse/.claws-mail/addrbook/addrbook-000002.xml.bak
-rw------- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse  321 Nov 11
18:23 /home/rocketmouse/.claws-mail/addrbook/addrbook--index.xml
-rw------- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse  321 Nov 11
18:23 /home/rocketmouse/.claws-mail/addrbook/addrbook--index.xml.bak
-rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse   94 Nov 11
14:14 /home/rocketmouse/.claws-mail/addrbook/attributesrc


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Tue Nov 11 18:45:00 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 18:45:00 +0100
Subject: [Users] NOOB question sorry: cannot get AddressKeeper to work...
In-Reply-To: <20141111184141.4b63c44f@archlinux>
References: <BA3E2F0B-4221-4746-82B1-FF81A4C2D653@gmail.com>
 <20141111172248.GA6899@trasgu> <20141111184141.4b63c44f@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141111184500.0f83be6c@archlinux>

On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 18:41:41 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:
> I'm new to Claws too, fortunately I had no issues with this plugin.
> The preferences dialog asked to chose an addressbook.
> 
> I decided to chose one of the too mentioned addressbooks and it works.
                                ^^^ two :D




From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Nov 11 19:17:21 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 18:17:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3262] Keyboard bindings in the Folder pane
In-Reply-To: <bug-3262-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3262-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3262-595-ntzQyTouLb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3262

--- Comment #1 from nobrowser at gmail.com ---
Created attachment 1448
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1448&action=edit
Add a menu teim for going to parent folder

So apparently Ctrl-Home and Ctrl-End works in the folder pane (I
believe those are Gtk default keybindings).  Scratch that part.

For the "jump to parent folder" part, see (and apply, hopefully)
the attached patch, which adds an item to the View/Go To menu to
do just that.

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From barry at python.org  Tue Nov 11 19:34:11 2014
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:34:11 -0500
Subject: [Users] External editor?
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141105142242.54fc7f6e@PPlive>
 <20141104223045.4f1dc64c@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141108173557.0af6bf54@PPlive>
 <20141107231507.5bd7c45c.itz@buug.org>
 <20141109185426.1d86c85d@PPlive>
 <20141109093715.70323f32.itz@buug.org>
 <20141110125347.7cec695a@anarchist.wooz.org>
 <20141110112959.02f16fae.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20141111133411.286361c4@anarchist.wooz.org>

On Nov 10, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote:

>That's a very nice way too, yes.  But then it works _only_ if you're
>connecting to a daemon emacs.  My "editor" is actually a script that
>execs emacsclient if the daemon is up, and full emacs otherwise.

Wait, does that mean that there's actually a time when emacs isn't running?
That's crazy talk!  :)

-Barry
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From itz at buug.org  Tue Nov 11 21:00:10 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:00:10 -0800
Subject: [Users] Bug 3256, any insight?
Message-ID: <20141111120010.070666e6.itz@buug.org>

Can one of the hotshot developers please comment on bug #3256? [1]  I
would like to put together a patch, but I have trouble determining what
code it is that messes with the selection.  The crucial function seems
to be execute_actions() in src/action.c but that by itself doesn't seem
to touch the selection.  Can I get a hint?

[1]
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3256

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From jdebert at garlic.com  Mon Nov 10 20:48:18 2014
From: jdebert at garlic.com (jdebert)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:48:18 -0800
Subject: [Users] "Put deleted messages in . . . " ignored
In-Reply-To: <20141107113211.5b0212e0@linux-l0lu>
References: <20141107113211.5b0212e0@linux-l0lu>
Message-ID: <20141110114818.583d4dab@garlic.com>

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 11:32:11 +0000
Graham P Davis <newsboy at scarlet-jade.com> wrote:

> Instead of dumping all my deleted messages in the same waste-bin, I
> decided to configure my accounts to use their own trash-cans. To
> verify that it worked, I set up a new trash folder and edited an
> account to "put deleted messages in . . ." the new folder.
> Unfortunately, I verified that it didn't work. Deleted messages still
> went in the general trash and my new folder remained disappointingly
> empty.
> 
> Is there something I've missed in setting this up or does it just not
> work?
> 

How about not marking messages as deleted? This will probably work more
or less equally well with most if not all MUA's. Many MUA's do assume
that if you mark a message as deleted you want nothing more to do with
it.

Might also avoid marking as spam, as some MUA's assume that you want
such messages to be treated as they had been deleted.

jd



From jdv at base2bio.com  Wed Nov 12 06:30:38 2014
From: jdv at base2bio.com (Jeremy Volkening)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 23:30:38 -0600
Subject: [Users] IMAP / SSL failure
Message-ID: <20141111233038.757c1bb3@biobook.bloom180.lan>

Hello,

Connection to one of my IMAP accounts has recently started failing with:

GnuTLS error: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.
** (claws-mail:14118): WARNING **: [23:17:03] SSL handshake failed

I suspect this has to do with the mail server no longer accepting SSLv3
connections. I have seen a number of messages about this in the list
archives. I have compiled the latest v3.11.1 (on Debian 'wheezy') and
set the following in my .claws-mail/accountrc:

gnutls_set_priority=1
gnutls_priority=NORMAL:-VERS-SSL3.0

with no success. I have also forcing:

gnutls_set_priority=1
gnutls_priority=VERS-TLS1.2

but the connection still fails. Using Wireshark, I see that claws-mail
is still sending a HELLO using SSLv3. If I connect with the same
settings using Icedove, Wireshark shows it using TLSv1.2 and the
connection succeeds. The claws-mail account settings are set to use SSL.
If I try to use STARTTLS for incoming IMAP, nothing happens until
claws-mail times out. I see the same behavior with STARTTLS in Icedove,
which leads me to believe that STARTTLS will not work with the mail
server (wiscmail.wisc.edu).

The output from gnutls-cli-debug is as follows:

jeremy at xxxxxxx:~$ gnutls-cli-debug -p 993 wiscmail.wisc.edu
Resolving 'wiscmail.wisc.edu'...
Connecting to '144.92.197.133:993'...
Checking for SSL 3.0 support... no
Checking whether %COMPAT is required... yes
Checking for TLS 1.0 support... no
Checking for TLS 1.1 support... no
Checking fallback from TLS 1.1 to... failed
Checking for TLS 1.2 support... no
Checking whether we need to disable TLS 1.0... yes

Server does not support any of SSL 3.0, TLS 1.0 and TLS 1.1


This doesn't help, since it doesn't show ANYTHING as being supported
(although TLSv1.2 is definitely supported). I've also tried adding the
'%COMPAT' string to the 'gnutls_profile'. If anyone has any insight into
this, please let me know. It seems like the above fixes have worked for
others but not me. Is there any way to use TSLv1.2 with claws-mail
without using STARTTLS? Thanks,

Jeremy




From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Wed Nov 12 08:58:14 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 08:58:14 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail for Windows
Message-ID: <20141112085814.1278b809@archlinux>

Hi,

for my Linux install I decided to migrate to Claws in the close future.
My Linux host runs a Virtual Box Windows XP guest. Since Windows XP is
obsolet, I wonder if I could contribute useful reports, if I should run
the Claws Windows version on that XP guest. If so, I'm willing to do it,
if it's useless to help you, I won't, since there's no need for me to
run a MUA on the Windows guest.

Regards,
Ralf


From senex at drofle.co.uk  Wed Nov 12 10:03:31 2014
From: senex at drofle.co.uk (senex at drofle.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 09:03:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] Showing mails as having been read
Message-ID: <20141112090331.61d93669@Willow>

In the Preferences --> Display --> Summaries menu I can choose to mark
an email as read after so many seconds. Or I can choose to mark it as
read 'Only when opened in a new window or replied to'.

This latter works when I open an email from the main page, by double
clicking on it. However I often have several unread emails in the same
folder so, once I have opened the first one,  I move through them one by
one by using the keyboard shortcut to go to the next unread message,
that is shift-N.

This does indeed take me to the relevant message but it does not mark
it as read. When I return to the list I find that only the first new
message is marked as read.

Is there any way round this please? 

Thanks

Neil


From andrej at kacian.sk  Wed Nov 12 10:59:06 2014
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:59:06 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail for Windows
In-Reply-To: <20141112085814.1278b809@archlinux>
References: <20141112085814.1278b809@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141112105906.4b6acc6b@hiker>

On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 08:58:14 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> for my Linux install I decided to migrate to Claws in the close
> future. My Linux host runs a Virtual Box Windows XP guest. Since
> Windows XP is obsolet, I wonder if I could contribute useful reports,
> if I should run the Claws Windows version on that XP guest. If so,
> I'm willing to do it, if it's useless to help you, I won't, since
> there's no need for me to run a MUA on the Windows guest.

Hello Ralf,

I think we have more than enough bugreports for Windows version
(search our bugzilla for bugs filed against "Claws Mail (Windows)"
product). Our bottleneck is in the fact that only one person from our
team is really working on the Windows version (in addition to regular
development work).

Therefore, while one extra tester and bug submitter certainly can't
hurt, I doubt it will speed up development of the Windows version.

-- 
Andrej


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Nov 12 11:20:08 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:20:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] IMAP / SSL failure
In-Reply-To: <20141111233038.757c1bb3@biobook.bloom180.lan>
References: <20141111233038.757c1bb3@biobook.bloom180.lan>
Message-ID: <20141112102008.014124f8@thewildbeast>

On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 23:30:38 -0600
Jeremy Volkening <jdv at base2bio.com> wrote: 

<snip>
> Using Wireshark, I see that claws-mail
> is still sending a HELLO using SSLv3.
<snip>

You are mistaken here, Claws Mail 3.11.x will never try to connect
using SSLv3. (Unless you tell it to, using the gnutls_priority
setting.)

I believe that your problem here is libetpan, and it is libetpan that
is attempting the SSLv3.

Your solution is to upgrade libetpan to version 1.6.

with regards

Paul


-- 
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Nov 12 11:21:07 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:21:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] Showing mails as having been read
In-Reply-To: <20141112090331.61d93669@Willow>
References: <20141112090331.61d93669@Willow>
Message-ID: <20141112102107.527e6959@thewildbeast>

On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 09:03:31 +0000
<senex at drofle.co.uk> wrote: 

> Is there any way round this please? 

Yes, open the message in a /new/ window, not just re-using the old
window.

with regards

Paul


-- 
Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières


From subscript at free.fr  Wed Nov 12 11:46:16 2014
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 11:46:16 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws Mail for Windows
In-Reply-To: <20141112105906.4b6acc6b@hiker>
References: <20141112085814.1278b809@archlinux> <20141112105906.4b6acc6b@hiker>
Message-ID: <20141112114616.50f572da@anthra>

Hello Andrej,


On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:59:06 +0100 Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 08:58:14 +0100
> Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > for my Linux install I decided to migrate to Claws in the close
> > future. My Linux host runs a Virtual Box Windows XP guest. Since
> > Windows XP is obsolet, I wonder if I could contribute useful reports,
> > if I should run the Claws Windows version on that XP guest. If so,
> > I'm willing to do it, if it's useless to help you, I won't, since
> > there's no need for me to run a MUA on the Windows guest.
> 
> Hello Ralf,
> 
> I think we have more than enough bugreports for Windows version
> (search our bugzilla for bugs filed against "Claws Mail (Windows)"
> product). Our bottleneck is in the fact that only one person from our
> team is really working on the Windows version (in addition to regular
> development work).
> 
> Therefore, while one extra tester and bug submitter certainly can't
> hurt, I doubt it will speed up development of the Windows version.

And in addition to what Andrej said, I see no point in addressing bugs
that would be specific to XP, and unsupported version of Windows.

Not that we're really (actively) supporting Windows and not even
following the support program of this OS, but if it's clear that if a
reported bug implies XP and is not present on 7+, it will hardly get a
chance to see our efforts deployed to fix it, unless the fix is
trivial. Doesn't make real sense to me :-).


Regards,

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From senex at drofle.co.uk  Wed Nov 12 15:31:33 2014
From: senex at drofle.co.uk (senex at drofle.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 14:31:33 +0000
Subject: [Users] Showing mails as having been read
In-Reply-To: <20141112102107.527e6959@thewildbeast>
References: <20141112090331.61d93669@Willow>
 <20141112102107.527e6959@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141112143133.6edb1cf2@Willow>

On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:21:07 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 09:03:31 +0000
> <senex at drofle.co.uk> wrote: 
> 
> > Is there any way round this please? 
> 
> Yes, open the message in a /new/ window, not just re-using the old
> window.
> 
> with regards
> 
> Paul
> 
> 

So that means that I have to keep returning back to the main page  each
time, find the next unread email and the click on that to open it. I
think it would be useful to have a way of marking an email as read by
moving through the same window.

Anyway, thanks for the information,

Neil



From jdv at base2bio.com  Wed Nov 12 16:06:05 2014
From: jdv at base2bio.com (Jeremy Volkening)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 09:06:05 -0600
Subject: [Users] IMAP / SSL failure
In-Reply-To: <20141112102008.014124f8@thewildbeast>
References: <20141111233038.757c1bb3@biobook.bloom180.lan>
 <20141112102008.014124f8@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141112090605.4e5cb6e0@biobook.bloom180.lan>

On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:20:08 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> > Using Wireshark, I see that claws-mail
> > is still sending a HELLO using SSLv3.
> 
> I believe that your problem here is libetpan, and it is libetpan that
> is attempting the SSLv3. Your solution is to upgrade libetpan to
> version 1.6.

This was indeed the issue. Recompiled with libetpan 1.6 and all is well.

Thanks,
Jeremy


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Wed Nov 12 21:09:54 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 21:09:54 +0100
Subject: [Users] Showing mails as having been read
In-Reply-To: <20141112143133.6edb1cf2@Willow>
References: <20141112090331.61d93669@Willow>
 <20141112102107.527e6959@thewildbeast>
 <20141112143133.6edb1cf2@Willow>
Message-ID: <20141112210954.218f77ab@archlinux>

On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 14:31:33 +0000
<senex at drofle.co.uk> wrote:
> So that means that I have to keep returning back to the main page
> each time, find the next unread email and the click on that to open
> it. I think it would be useful to have a way of marking an email as
> read by moving through the same window.

I agree with that, but it shouldn't happen automatically, because we
might scroll through unread mails and just read a few of them, so we
perhaps want that some mails are still flagged as unread. Btw. I read
many mails without opening a Window, using the message view of the main
Window, so it's easy to flag a mail as read (or unread).


From danlyke at flutterby.com  Thu Nov 13 00:06:57 2014
From: danlyke at flutterby.com (Dan Lyke)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 15:06:57 -0800
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3098] New: Please add support for basic HTTP
 authentication
In-Reply-To: <bug-3098-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3098-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <20141112150657.743f8ad2@dan-notebook>

On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 13:51:17 +0000
noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:
> Would be nice that RRRyl could support a username and password in feed
> properties for sending to the server at retrieval.

I could swear that at some point I used the URL standard
http://username at password:hostname/path syntax for specifying username
and password in RSSyl.

Dan


From peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au  Thu Nov 13 08:43:08 2014
From: peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au (blind Pete)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:43:08 +1100
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141111101546.GC13794@trasgu>
References: <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141105142242.54fc7f6e@PPlive>
 <20141104223045.4f1dc64c@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141108173557.0af6bf54@PPlive>
 <20141107231507.5bd7c45c.itz@buug.org>
 <20141109185426.1d86c85d@PPlive>
 <20141109093715.70323f32.itz@buug.org>
 <20141110172450.535f8daa@PPlive> <20141110085632.GB13794@trasgu>
 <20141111113748.3922ff5e@PPlive> <20141111101546.GC13794@trasgu>
Message-ID: <20141113184308.6ebf4c59@PPlive>

On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:15:46 +0100
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:37:48AM +1100, blind Pete wrote:
> > On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 09:56:32 +0100
> > Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 05:24:50PM +1100, blind Pete wrote:
> > > […]
> > > > > In summary, I don't think this is something that should be
> > > > > preset by Claws.  There are too many different users,
> > > > > editors, and options.
> > > > 
> > > > It would be a reasonable assumption that files from CM are
> > > > emails.  
> > > 
> > > But fact is that external editor is used for more kind of files
> > > than just email messages.
> > 
> > That is a strong argument.  
> > 
> > What else can the external editor be used for?  
> 
> Right off the top of my head: opening text or any other type of
> generic attachments, editing mail signatures, and editing stylesheets
> in fancy plugin.
> 
> Probably more.

OK  My ignorance is showing.  

> > Next question, with less hope of a good answer; what knows when
> > about what type of file is to be edited?  Can sensible hints be
> > given, this could get messy and impractical.  
> 
> I think most (full featured) editors already guess the type of files
> and dont need or even accept hints.

Neither /gvim/ nor /file/ identified this file that I am currently
editing (tmpmsg.0x284a860) as an email message, but then it has all 
of the headers stripped from it unlike tmpfile.00000001 which has 
the headers intact.  

/home/psd/.claws-mail/tmp/tmpfile.00000001: smtp mail, UTF-8 Unicode text
/home/psd/.claws-mail/tmp/tmpmsg.0x284a860: UTF-8 Unicode English text

Refining my previous assertion, it is a safe bet that when CM opens a 
file *from the compose window* that it is intended to be an email.  

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From senex at drofle.co.uk  Thu Nov 13 09:20:15 2014
From: senex at drofle.co.uk (senex at drofle.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 08:20:15 +0000
Subject: [Users] Showing mails as having been read
In-Reply-To: <20141112210954.218f77ab@archlinux>
References: <20141112090331.61d93669@Willow>
 <20141112102107.527e6959@thewildbeast>
 <20141112143133.6edb1cf2@Willow>
 <20141112210954.218f77ab@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141113082015.6ef7305d@Willow>

On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 21:09:54 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 14:31:33 +0000
> <senex at drofle.co.uk> wrote:
> > So that means that I have to keep returning back to the main page
> > each time, find the next unread email and the click on that to open
> > it. I think it would be useful to have a way of marking an email as
> > read by moving through the same window.
> 
> I agree with that, but it shouldn't happen automatically, because we
> might scroll through unread mails and just read a few of them, so we
> perhaps want that some mails are still flagged as unread. Btw. I read
> many mails without opening a Window, using the message view of the
> main Window, so it's easy to flag a mail as read (or unread).

Yes, I see that. The way I am asking for works in Thunderbird. I open
the first unread mail, in a new window. Having read it or decided not
to bother I move on to the next unread mail which is then opened and
marked as read. If I decide to read it later there is a keyboard
shortcut to mark it as unread.

I just think that could be useful in claws. Still, I now know it
doesn't work like that, so I can work with the current system.

Thanks for all the help and information,

Neil



From ricardo at mones.org  Thu Nov 13 10:18:39 2014
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 10:18:39 +0100
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3098] New: Please add support for basic HTTP
 authentication
In-Reply-To: <20141112150657.743f8ad2@dan-notebook>
References: <bug-3098-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <20141112150657.743f8ad2@dan-notebook>
Message-ID: <20141113091839.GB6899@trasgu>

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 03:06:57PM -0800, Dan Lyke wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 13:51:17 +0000
> noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:
> > Would be nice that RRRyl could support a username and password in feed
> > properties for sending to the server at retrieval.
> 
> I could swear that at some point I used the URL standard
> http://username at password:hostname/path syntax for specifying username
> and password in RSSyl.

Yep, that also works, as Andrej gently reminded to me on IRC.

Nevertheless, it has two caveats:
 • If the password has 'strange' chars they have to be URL-encoded by hand.
   This is a one time incovenience only, but it's easy to forget (I did!)
 • The username and password are shown in almost plain text when you open
   the dialog, exposing them to shoulder surfers.

The latter has already been considered as a security problem in the past
so I don't think is an usage to be promoted, but as always YMMV.

regards,
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Nov 13 18:26:02 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:26:02 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3325] Password conversion from plaintext to encrypted
 does not handle ! as first char of plaintext password
In-Reply-To: <bug-3325-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3325-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3325-595-cojaTrvQu0@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3325

--- Comment #4 from Marvin <marvint.roebuck at inbox.lv> ---
Ok nothing to do with signedness.  That's what -Wno-pointer-sign is for.

But I wonder if anyone seeing this bug report knew right away what the problem
was/is.

I looked at .claws-mail/accountrc and notice that each encrypted password
begins with a !

Like so:
password=!abdCeF10293=
smtp_password=!etcetcetc=
in_ssl_client_cert_pass=!fubarfoobarorbarfoo=
out_ssl_client_cert_pass=!yesnoormaybeyes=

Or like this when no password has been set:

password=!


Why this has to be I can guess at but maybe someone knows exactly why.

My guess:
someone decided to use ! as a demarcation for the beginning of a
base64 encoded encrypted password string.

And somewhere, while encrypting, the ! is removed from unencrypted password
strings.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Nov 13 18:37:08 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:37:08 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3325] Password conversion from plaintext to encrypted
 does not handle ! as first char of plaintext password
In-Reply-To: <bug-3325-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3325-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3325-595-lsLxEYOqJu@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3325

--- Comment #5 from Marvin <marvint.roebuck at inbox.lv> ---
I need to be explicit. And somewhere, while encrypting, the ! is removed from
unencrypted password string when the ! occurs as the first char of the
unecrypted password string.

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From tmp.2014 at outlook.com  Thu Nov 13 21:24:59 2014
From: tmp.2014 at outlook.com (tmp 2014)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 20:24:59 +0000
Subject: [Users] Please improve the support for Windows
Message-ID: <BLU175-W352C029AF3742B621532DA9C8F0@phx.gbl>


HiCould you please improve the support for the Windows versions of Clawsmail? For instance, support for changeable color themes was requested more than once on this mailing list, and one of the developers said that he would take care of it, but it never came true.
Or perhaps is Windows a less privileged platform in your development plan? If so, it would be a mistake.Thankstmp 		 	   		  
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From colin at colino.net  Thu Nov 13 21:28:54 2014
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 21:28:54 +0100
Subject: [Users] Please improve the support for Windows
In-Reply-To: <BLU175-W352C029AF3742B621532DA9C8F0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU175-W352C029AF3742B621532DA9C8F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20141113212854.22c1658c@mike>

On 13 November 2014 at 20h24, tmp 2014 wrote:

Hi, 

> HiCould you please improve the support for the Windows versions of
> Clawsmail? For instance, support for changeable color themes was
> requested more than once on this mailing list, and one of the
> developers said that he would take care of it, but it never came
> true. Or perhaps is Windows a less privileged platform in your
> development plan? If so, it would be a mistake.

Yes, it's not very privileged as it's rather painful to work with. I'm
doing what I can and you probably shouldn't expect much more than the
current effort.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Nov 13 23:44:40 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 22:44:40 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3329] New: Hide the scrollbar if possible
Message-ID: <bug-3329-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3329

            Bug ID: 3329
           Summary: Hide the scrollbar if possible
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.11.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Folder List
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: nobrowser at gmail.com

Right now, the vertical scrollbar next to the folder list is always visible,
even if the folders all fit in the height of the window.  A nontrivial (from my
POV) amount of screen real estate could be saved if it followed the normal
behavior of hiding when no vertical scrolling apllies.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov 14 00:05:20 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 23:05:20 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3329] Hide the scrollbar if possible
In-Reply-To: <bug-3329-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3329-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3329-595-fnjN2GV729@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3329

--- Comment #1 from brad at fineby.me.uk <brad at fineby.me.uk> ---
If you'd read the documentation, you'd have seen this in the section regarding
hidden preferences:

folderview_vscrollbar_policy

Specify the policy of vertical scrollbar of Folder List. '0' is always shown,
'1' is automatic, '2' is always hidden. 

To alter it, shut down CM, open ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc and edit.  Save file,
restart CM.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov 14 00:24:06 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 23:24:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3329] Hide the scrollbar if possible
In-Reply-To: <bug-3329-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3329-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3329-595-Qi8lqoRKpv@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3329

nobrowser at gmail.com changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #2 from nobrowser at gmail.com ---
You're right, sorry for that.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov 14 00:59:25 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 23:59:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3329] Hide the scrollbar if possible
In-Reply-To: <bug-3329-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3329-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3329-595-SARGDwpCdk@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3329

--- Comment #3 from Michael Rasmussen <mir at datanom.net> ---
(In reply to comment #0)
> 
> To alter it, shut down CM, open ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc and edit.  Save file,
> restart CM.
You could also install clawsker.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov 14 18:28:09 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 17:28:09 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3330] New: RSSyl plugin makes Claws-Mail unusable
 until deactivated
Message-ID: <bug-3330-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3330

            Bug ID: 3330
           Summary: RSSyl plugin makes Claws-Mail unusable until
                    deactivated
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.11.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: FreeBSD
            Status: NEW
          Severity: major
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/RSSyl
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: gustik at gustik.eu

When I start claws-mail with RSSyl plugin enabled, this comes on the console
and claws-mail stops (looks like an infinite loop):

/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//Planet Claws Mail: mkdir:
File exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//Fefes Blog: mkdir: File
exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//flassbeck-economics: mkdir:
File exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//Pro-Linux News: mkdir: File
exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//OpenBSD Journal: mkdir: File
exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//OpenBSD Errata: mkdir: File
exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//NetBSD.org News: mkdir: File
exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//NetBSD Code Changes: mkdir:
File exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//NetBSD.org Security
Advisories: mkdir: File exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//NetBSD - Fresh Packages:
mkdir: File exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//FreeBSD News Flash: mkdir:
File exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//FreeBSD Foundation: mkdir:
File exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//NetBSD Blog: mkdir: File
exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//FreeBSD VuXML: mkdir: File
exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//DragonFly BSD Digest: mkdir:
File exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//Planet Claws Mail: mkdir:
File exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//Fefes Blog: mkdir: File
exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//flassbeck-economics: mkdir:
File exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//Pro-Linux News: mkdir: File
exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//OpenBSD Journal: mkdir: File
exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//OpenBSD Errata: mkdir: File
exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//NetBSD.org News: mkdir: File
exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//NetBSD Code Changes: mkdir:
File exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//NetBSD.org Security
Advisories: mkdir: File exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//NetBSD - Fresh Packages:
mkdir: File exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//FreeBSD News Flash: mkdir:
File exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//FreeBSD Foundation: mkdir:
File exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//NetBSD Blog: mkdir: File
exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//FreeBSD VuXML: mkdir: File
exists
/home/vanessa/.claws-mail/RSSyl/My Feeds (RSSyl)//DragonFly BSD Digest: mkdir:
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov 14 18:30:03 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 17:30:03 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3330] RSSyl plugin makes Claws-Mail unusable until
	deactivated
In-Reply-To: <bug-3330-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3330-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3330-595-EseXnYzdiN@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3330

--- Comment #1 from Lars Schotte <gustik at gustik.eu> ---
btw. claws-mail throws after that a core dump, but I did not upload it, because
it is 70MB big and looks like it contains credentials, it matches grep
password.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov 14 22:16:42 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 21:16:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3330] RSSyl plugin makes Claws-Mail unusable until
	deactivated
In-Reply-To: <bug-3330-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3330-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3330-595-PnDc3KJf9I@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3330

--- Comment #2 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
I'm afraid the migration to new storage format did not go as planned there.

Can you please try starting claws-mail with --debug from console, and paste the
output (or attach as file if too long)?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov 14 22:53:25 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 21:53:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3330] RSSyl plugin makes Claws-Mail unusable until
	deactivated
In-Reply-To: <bug-3330-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3330-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3330-595-4gAhWIZ101@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3330

--- Comment #3 from Lars Schotte <gustik at gustik.eu> ---
plugin.c:451:trying to load `/usr/local/lib/claws-mail/plugins/rssyl.so'
plugin.c:370:plugin licence check passed: GPL2+ found
folder.c:123:registering folder class rssyl
rssyl.c:241:RSSyl: new_folder:  ()
prefs_gtk.c:86:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:148:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:86:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:148:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:86:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:148:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:86:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:148:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:86:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:148:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:86:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:148:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:86:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:148:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:86:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:148:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:86:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:148:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:86:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:148:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:86:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:148:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:86:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:148:Finished reading configuration.
prefs_gtk.c:86:Reading configuration...
....
prefs_gtk.c:86:Reading configuration...
prefs_gtk.c:123:Found [#rssyl/My Feeds//DragonFly BSD Digest]
prefs_gtk.c:148:Finished reading configuration.
folderview.c:758:called inc_lock (lock count 2)
folderview.c:759:Setting folder info...
msgcache.c:275:TIMING : 0s000ms
msgcache.c:275:TIMING : 0s000ms
folderview.c:785:called inc_unlock (lock count 1)
rssyl.c:241:RSSyl: new_folder:  ()
folderview.c:758:called inc_lock (lock count 2)
folderview.c:759:Setting folder info...
msgcache.c:275:TIMING : 0s000ms
msgcache.c:275:TIMING : 0s000ms
folderview.c:785:called inc_unlock (lock count 1)
rssyl.c:241:RSSyl: new_folder:  ()
folderview.c:758:called inc_lock (lock count 2)
folderview.c:759:Setting folder info...
msgcache.c:275:TIMING : 0s000ms
msgcache.c:275:TIMING : 0s000ms
folderview.c:785:called inc_unlock (lock count 1)
rssyl.c:241:RSSyl: new_folder:  ()
folderview.c:758:called inc_lock (lock count 2)
folderview.c:759:Setting folder info...
msgcache.c:275:TIMING : 0s000ms
msgcache.c:275:TIMING : 0s000ms
folderview.c:785:called inc_unlock (lock count 1)
rssyl.c:241:RSSyl: new_folder:  ()
folderview.c:758:called inc_lock (lock count 2)
folderview.c:759:Setting folder info...
msgcache.c:275:TIMING : 0s000ms
msgcache.c:275:TIMING : 0s000ms
folderview.c:785:called inc_unlock (lock count 1)
rssyl.c:241:RSSyl: new_folder:  ()
folderview.c:758:called inc_lock (lock count 2)
folderview.c:759:Setting folder info...
msgcache.c:275:TIMING : 0s000ms
msgcache.c:275:TIMING : 0s000ms
folderview.c:785:called inc_unlock (lock count 1)
rssyl.c:241:RSSyl: new_folder:  ()
folderview.c:758:called inc_lock (lock count 2)
folderview.c:759:Setting folder info...
msgcache.c:275:TIMING : 0s000ms
msgcache.c:275:TIMING : 0s000ms
folderview.c:785:called inc_unlock (lock count 1)
rssyl.c:241:RSSyl: new_folder:  ()
...
folderview.c:785:called inc_unlock (lock count 1)
rssyl_update_format.c:85:RSSyl: (FORMAT) item 'My Feeds'
rssyl_update_format.c:93:RSSyl: (FORMAT) adding new root folder 'My Feeds'
rssyl.c:241:RSSyl: new_folder: My Feeds ((null))
folderview.c:758:called inc_lock (lock count 2)
folderview.c:759:Setting folder info...
msgcache.c:275:TIMING : 0s000ms
msgcache.c:275:TIMING : 0s000ms
folderview.c:785:called inc_unlock (lock count 1)
rssyl_update_format.c:85:RSSyl: (FORMAT) item 'My Feeds'
rssyl_update_format.c:93:RSSyl: (FORMAT) adding new root folder 'My Feeds'
rssyl.c:241:RSSyl: new_folder: My Feeds ((null))
folderview.c:758:called inc_lock (lock count 2)
folderview.c:759:Setting folder info...
msgcache.c:275:TIMING : 0s000ms
msgcache.c:275:TIMING : 0s000ms
folderview.c:785:called inc_unlock (lock count 1)
rssyl_update_format.c:85:RSSyl: (FORMAT) item 'My Feeds'
rssyl_update_format.c:93:RSSyl: (FORMAT) adding new root folder 'My Feeds'
rssyl.c:241:RSSyl: new_folder: My Feeds ((null))
folderview.c:758:called inc_lock (lock count 2)
folderview.c:759:Setting folder info...
msgcache.c:275:TIMING : 0s000ms
msgcache.c:275:TIMING : 0s000ms

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov 14 23:09:54 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 22:09:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3330] RSSyl plugin makes Claws-Mail unusable until
	deactivated
In-Reply-To: <bug-3330-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3330-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3330-595-QBL4lIAe7d@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3330

--- Comment #4 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Hm, I have no idea why, but it seems like it's stuck in endless loop even
during the storage format conversion. I have to admit I did not test the
process on FreeBSD, maybe there is something specific that causes it to break.
Sorry about that.

If you still have ~/.claws-mail/RSSyl/rssyl-feedlist.opml file that is not
empty and contains meaningful data (your feed folder structure), I believe you
can get through this by simply recreating the structure in new RSSyl:

1. Back rssyl-feedlist.opml somewhere
2. Move away or delete entire ~/.claws-mail/RSSyl directory
3. Start Claws Mail and load the RSSyl plugin. The "My Feeds (RSSyl)" folder
tree should be there, but should be empty. Remove it via right-click menu.
4. Add a new RSSyl folder tree (menu File->Add mailbox...)
5. Import the .opml file to the new folder tree (via right-click menu).

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov 14 23:38:36 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 22:38:36 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3330] RSSyl plugin makes Claws-Mail unusable until
	deactivated
In-Reply-To: <bug-3330-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3330-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3330-595-SWSMFMwcYV@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3330

--- Comment #5 from Lars Schotte <gustik at gustik.eu> ---
Does not help at all. Even with no RSSyl directory whatsoever, he still has
that information about the files backed up somewhere, I am supposing that it
may be the cache.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov 14 23:53:59 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 22:53:59 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3330] RSSyl plugin makes Claws-Mail unusable until
	deactivated
In-Reply-To: <bug-3330-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3330-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3330-595-kW5UyH60M8@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3330

--- Comment #6 from Lars Schotte <gustik at gustik.eu> ---
OK, removing folderlist.xml folderitemrc fixed that, but that is like
configuring that claws-mail from scratch now. So I do not think it was such a
good idea to hardcode that folder lists into every configuration file around.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Nov 15 00:41:12 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 23:41:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3330] RSSyl plugin makes Claws-Mail unusable until
	deactivated
In-Reply-To: <bug-3330-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3330-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3330-595-nPjzHXA6Mb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3330

Lars Schotte <gustik at gustik.eu> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |WONTFIX

--- Comment #7 from Lars Schotte <gustik at gustik.eu> ---
Best way is to remove .claws-mail completely and start over, because there are
just too many issues with bringing back broken configuration files.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Nov 15 06:20:18 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 05:20:18 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3324] Frequent seg faults when using NNTP
In-Reply-To: <bug-3324-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3324-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3324-595-yxqPLTBfOG@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3324

--- Comment #3 from Marvin <marvint.roebuck at inbox.lv> ---
Created attachment 1449
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http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1449&action=edit
thread-apply-all-bt

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Nov 15 06:22:07 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 05:22:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3324] Frequent seg faults when using NNTP
In-Reply-To: <bug-3324-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3324-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3324-595-9KuszZevFu@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3324

--- Comment #4 from Marvin <marvint.roebuck at inbox.lv> ---
This is in 3.11.1 it is definitely an issue when the network is saturated by
utilizing downstream bandwidth.

This was not with -g unfortunately.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Nov 16 14:27:32 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 13:27:32 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3331] New: Selection doesn't get removed correctly
Message-ID: <bug-3331-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3331

            Bug ID: 3331
           Summary: Selection doesn't get removed correctly
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message List
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: gusnan at gusnan.se

Marking several messages with Shift+Down (or Up), and then (without releasing
Shift) using the Shift + mousebutton to select other messages doesn't remove
the previous selection. The first selection doesn't get removed (Not even when
selecting other messages). This seem however only to be visibly, and doesn't
affect what is selected.

The selection is removed if going to another folder, and back.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Nov 16 14:39:58 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 13:39:58 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3332] New: Focus rectangle doesn't get removed
	correctly
Message-ID: <bug-3332-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3332

            Bug ID: 3332
           Summary: Focus rectangle doesn't get removed correctly
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Message List
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: gusnan at gusnan.se

Using Shift + Up/Down or Shift + PageUp/PageDown (and probably other variants
of selecting several messages) doesn't update the focus rectangle correctly -
the focus rectangle doesn't get removed from the previous message correctly.

Only one message should have the focus rectangle.

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From clifflaine at europe.com  Tue Nov 18 13:30:20 2014
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 12:30:20 +0000
Subject: [Users] Where is ~/.claws-mail/RSSyl/feeds.xml in 3.11.1?
Message-ID: <20141118123020.30ef120d@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

Hello all

I'm trying to get all my feeds not to update or appear as new, if the
author alters them. 

For the previous version of Claws I received the following advice,
which worked.

> >   
> Close claws and edit this file manually: .claws-mail/RSSyl/feeds.xml
> 
> Change
> silent_update="0"
> to
> silent_update="2"

But now I can't find that file anywhere. Could anyone point me in the
right direction for this setting?

Cliff


From codejodler at gmx.ch  Tue Nov 18 14:00:45 2014
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:00:45 +0100
Subject: [Users] IMAP / SSL failure
In-Reply-To: <20141112090605.4e5cb6e0@biobook.bloom180.lan>
References: <20141111233038.757c1bb3@biobook.bloom180.lan>
 <20141112102008.014124f8@thewildbeast>
 <20141112090605.4e5cb6e0@biobook.bloom180.lan>
Message-ID: <20141118140045.1a1775f6@mirrors.kernel.org>

Hmm, as i switched anything to TLS now, and claws 3.11.0 still have ssl-v3 disabled by default, i wonder what is the status now ? 
Did gnutls somehow fix the poodle bug ? Or is there kind of ssl-v4 out ? 
Does it work (again) to configure claws with ssl connections ?


From andrej at kacian.sk  Tue Nov 18 17:51:24 2014
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:51:24 +0100
Subject: [Users] Where is ~/.claws-mail/RSSyl/feeds.xml in 3.11.1?
In-Reply-To: <20141118123020.30ef120d@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
References: <20141118123020.30ef120d@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
Message-ID: <20141118175124.161168a7@penny>

On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 12:30:20 +0000
Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote:

> But now I can't find that file anywhere. Could anyone point me in the
> right direction for this setting?

Hello, the properties have been moved to folderlist.xml. By the way,
you can edit this via the feed properties dialog, no need to
directly edit any files.

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From itz at buug.org  Tue Nov 18 17:45:43 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 08:45:43 -0800
Subject: [Users] IMAP / SSL failure
In-Reply-To: <20141118140045.1a1775f6@mirrors.kernel.org>
References: <20141111233038.757c1bb3@biobook.bloom180.lan>
 <20141112102008.014124f8@thewildbeast>
 <20141112090605.4e5cb6e0@biobook.bloom180.lan>
 <20141118140045.1a1775f6@mirrors.kernel.org>
Message-ID: <20141118084543.538de36f.itz@buug.org>

On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:00:45 +0100,
Michael <codejodler at gmx.ch> wrote:

Michael> Hmm, as i switched anything to TLS now, and claws 3.11.0 still
Michael> have ssl-v3 disabled by default, i wonder what is the status
Michael> now ?  Did gnutls somehow fix the poodle bug ? Or is there kind
Michael> of ssl-v4 out ?  Does it work (again) to configure claws with
Michael> ssl connections ?

You are confused.

POODLE is not a problem with a specific implementation like GnuTLS.  It
is a problem with the _protocol_ SSLv3, which both GnuTLS and openssl
implement.  Along with others.  The change was to force Claws (by
default) to use these other protocols, and not SSLv3.  Which is entirely
orthogonal to whether you build Claws with GnuTLS or openssl.

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From clifflaine at europe.com  Tue Nov 18 18:13:41 2014
From: clifflaine at europe.com (Cliff Laine)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:13:41 +0000
Subject: [Users] Where is ~/.claws-mail/RSSyl/feeds.xml in 3.11.1?
In-Reply-To: <20141118175124.161168a7@penny>
References: <20141118123020.30ef120d@marjoriebubble-MXC061>
 <20141118175124.161168a7@penny>
Message-ID: <20141118171341.7e839b0f@marjoriebubble-MXC061>

On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:51:24 +0100
Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 12:30:20 +0000
> Cliff Laine <clifflaine at europe.com> wrote:
> 
> > But now I can't find that file anywhere. Could anyone point me in
> > the right direction for this setting?
> 
> Hello, the properties have been moved to folderlist.xml. By the way,
> you can edit this via the feed properties dialog, no need to
> directly edit any files.
> 

Thank you Andrej -- I've changed the setting via a find and replace
operation in folderlist.xml. Changing over 100 feeds individually
through the feed properties dialogue would be a job for a very rainy
day :)

Cliff



From codejodler at gmx.ch  Thu Nov 20 00:28:09 2014
From: codejodler at gmx.ch (Michael)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 00:28:09 +0100
Subject: [Users] IMAP / SSL failure
In-Reply-To: <20141118084543.538de36f.itz@buug.org>
References: <20141111233038.757c1bb3@biobook.bloom180.lan>
 <20141112102008.014124f8@thewildbeast>
 <20141112090605.4e5cb6e0@biobook.bloom180.lan>
 <20141118140045.1a1775f6@mirrors.kernel.org>
 <20141118084543.538de36f.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20141120002809.078ec411@mirrors.kernel.org>

Ian,

ok understood. Thanks.


From jerry at seibercom.net  Thu Nov 20 17:46:38 2014
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 11:46:38 -0500
Subject: [Users] Printing multiple documents
Message-ID: <20141120114638.3cc059db@seibercom.net>

I often print several emails out in succession. I notice that if I highlight
several emails, then <file> <print>, I am asked to confirm each file before
it is printed. That does not make sense. If I highlighted several files and
then click print, it is rather obvious that I wanted to print all of those
files. This is a rather big annoyance if I am printing out say 25 or thirty
emails.

MS Outlook allows me to print more than one file at a time, and I would like
to see claws-mail offering the opportunity.

Could this behavior be modified? I could not find any configuration option
that would address this problem.

Thanks!

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From itz at buug.org  Thu Nov 20 18:47:15 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 09:47:15 -0800
Subject: [Users] Printing multiple documents
In-Reply-To: <20141120114638.3cc059db@seibercom.net>
References: <20141120114638.3cc059db@seibercom.net>
Message-ID: <20141120094715.33ef9a7b.itz@buug.org>

On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 11:46:38 -0500,
Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:

Jerry> I often print several emails out in succession. I notice that if
Jerry> I highlight several emails, then <file> <print>, I am asked to
Jerry> confirm each file before it is printed. That does not make
Jerry> sense. If I highlighted several files and then click print, it is
Jerry> rather obvious that I wanted to print all of those files. This is
Jerry> a rather big annoyance if I am printing out say 25 or thirty
Jerry> emails.

Jerry> MS Outlook allows me to print more than one file at a time, and I
Jerry> would like to see claws-mail offering the opportunity.

Jerry> Could this behavior be modified? I could not find any
Jerry> configuration option that would address this problem.

I agree with you that this should be improved, but as a temporary
workaround you can perahps define an action of the shell kind, calling
your print spooler (e.g. lp on a cups based system) and using the %f
code for referring to each message file separately.  As far as I know
such actions don't require any additional confirmation once you invoke
them via a menu item or a keyboard shortcut.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov 21 16:11:42 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 15:11:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3333] New: Allow setting LDAP referrals option
Message-ID: <bug-3333-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3333

            Bug ID: 3333
           Summary: Allow setting LDAP referrals option
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: UI/Address Book/LDAP
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: tim.laszlo at gmail.com

Created attachment 1450
  -->
http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=1450&action=edit
Patch to configure LDAP_OPT_REFERRALS option

When using AD as LDAP, queries are referred to all domain controllers by
default.  This patch allows users to explicitly enable and disable chasing LDAP
referrals.

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From tmp.2014 at outlook.com  Sat Nov 22 08:34:59 2014
From: tmp.2014 at outlook.com (tmp 2014)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 07:34:59 +0000
Subject: [Users] Please improve the support for Windows
In-Reply-To: <20141113212854.22c1658c@mike>
References: <BLU175-W352C029AF3742B621532DA9C8F0@phx.gbl>,
 <20141113212854.22c1658c@mike>
Message-ID: <BLU175-W51E7FD498058ADD42B32A89C740@phx.gbl>



        


                              Colin,

while
 I appreciate your extensive efforts with Clawsmail's different 
versions, and the difficulty of working with Windows, I would like to 
remind you that the overwhelming majority of computer users are still 
using Windows.
Please concentrate some more efforts on this platform too. 

Also, is it really so difficult to make the color themes changeable in Windows?

Thanks

-tmp
 		 	   		  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  


        
    
    

    










  

    
    
  

  
                                                                                                                       		 	   		  
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From subscript at free.fr  Sat Nov 22 10:17:45 2014
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 10:17:45 +0100
Subject: [Users] Please improve the support for Windows
In-Reply-To: <BLU175-W51E7FD498058ADD42B32A89C740@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU175-W352C029AF3742B621532DA9C8F0@phx.gbl>
 <20141113212854.22c1658c@mike>
 <BLU175-W51E7FD498058ADD42B32A89C740@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20141122101745.550f68ef@anthra>

Hello tmp,


On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 07:34:59 +0000 tmp 2014 <tmp.2014 at outlook.com> wrote:

> Colin,
> 
> while
>  I appreciate your extensive efforts with Clawsmail's different 
> versions, and the difficulty of working with Windows, I would like to 
> remind you that the overwhelming majority of computer users are still 
> using Windows.
> Please concentrate some more efforts on this platform too. 
> 
> Also, is it really so difficult to make the color themes changeable in Windows?

You're obviously right, the most part of personal computer are using
Windows. And this most part of computers are maybe even moving to be
phablets, running Android (grosso modo).

There's something you might have not noticed yet: the Claws Mail product
and the team behind it historically simply don't care about Windows.
It's historically born and has grown on GNU/Linux, because people who
created and are still maintaining/using it are Linux users and damn
shit happy with it, with a very specific idea of what kind of mail
client they want (lightweight, powerful, flexible etc., nothing that
included cross-platform non-POSIX portability, you will have noticed).
The Windows port and support is gently provided *as it is*, as a
courtesy and is *very* limited. We often make few improvements to it
(Colin does), it's not given that we could afford more even if we would
receive financial contributions: it's also a question of time and
interest.

The other thing which is maybe even more important: there is nothing
about democracy in the way a software project is led (ask Microsoft
about it!), and there is absolutely no rule that says "because the most
popular system is X, you have to support this system because once
you've made a partial support for this system and probably made the
error to think it was a good idea to port your product to this system".
Doing such request, you may receive a reply like: "OK, since now we
definitely stop supporting Windows, because our user base is tiny and
an because the dumb Windows user base is not at all the one addressed
by this product since the beginning".

BTW, the most part of the population is talking on the Internet using
its real name or at least using a fake first name. Could we ask you to
use a real human name instead of "tmp"? I think that now, you get the
point.


Regards,

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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Sat Nov 22 11:54:03 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 11:54:03 +0100
Subject: [Users] Sorting mails by received date
Message-ID: <20141122115403.61eeeeee@archlinux>

Hi,

is there a way to sort mails in the message list by received date (and
time;). To sort by numbers seems not to provide this.

Regards,
Ralf


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Nov 23 09:24:12 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 08:24:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3293] Sometimes imapcache produces wrong email contents
In-Reply-To: <bug-3293-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3293-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3293-595-oD2fU2jyg3@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3293

--- Comment #8 from Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen at gmail.com> ---
While working with 3.10.1 at home, and 3.9.0 at work, I have got the
impression, that 3.10.1 causes the content confusion a lot more often (maybe
every time the automatic processing rule moves a bunch of email from inbox to
another IMAP folder) than 3.9.0.

I haven't rigorously verified it, but it seems like I am rm'ing the cache on
3.10.1 every time I want to read moved email, and with 3.9.0 only rarely. This
obviously makes me reluctant to consider upgrading the 3.9.0 until this issue
gets fixed.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Nov 23 10:07:22 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 09:07:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3293] Sometimes imapcache produces wrong email contents
In-Reply-To: <bug-3293-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3293-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3293-595-Dx5usnxgyj@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3293

--- Comment #9 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
(In reply to comment #8)
> While working with 3.10.1 at home, and 3.9.0 at work

The latest release is v. 3.11.1, what can you observe with that?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sun Nov 23 10:27:23 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 09:27:23 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3293] Sometimes imapcache produces wrong email contents
In-Reply-To: <bug-3293-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3293-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3293-595-8GHixRqpMb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3293

--- Comment #10 from ygrek at autistici.org ---
I am running 3.11.1 and it happens as described in comment #6

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From ricardo at mones.org  Mon Nov 24 09:29:21 2014
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 09:29:21 +0100
Subject: [Users] Printing multiple documents
In-Reply-To: <20141120114638.3cc059db@seibercom.net>
References: <20141120114638.3cc059db@seibercom.net>
Message-ID: <20141124082921.GQ6899@trasgu>

Hi Jerry,

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:46:38AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
> I often print several emails out in succession. I notice that if I highlight
> several emails, then <file> <print>, I am asked to confirm each file before
> it is printed. That does not make sense. If I highlighted several files and
> then click print, it is rather obvious that I wanted to print all of those
> files. This is a rather big annoyance if I am printing out say 25 or thirty
> emails.
> 
> MS Outlook allows me to print more than one file at a time, and I would like
> to see claws-mail offering the opportunity.
> 
> Could this behavior be modified? I could not find any configuration option
> that would address this problem.

It seems a reasonable behaviour. Can you file an enhancement request
at our bugzilla? → http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/

regards,
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  ~
  You have the capacity to learn from mistakes. You'll learn a lot 
  today.                                           /usr/games/fortune

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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Mon Nov 24 10:39:31 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 10:39:31 +0100
Subject: [Users] Filter incoming messages by recipients
Message-ID: <20141124103931.2557fc85@archlinux>

Hi,

is there a way, that a filter rule can take care about the header's
"X-Apparently-To"? Filtering recipients, To and Cc doesn't work, if
mail is sent by a mailing list.

I need to filter by recipients, and they need to include To, Cc and
X-Apparently-To.

Regards,
Ralf


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Nov 24 10:41:24 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 09:41:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3334] New: PGP Inline: decrypt attachments
	automatically
Message-ID: <bug-3334-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3334

            Bug ID: 3334
           Summary: PGP Inline: decrypt attachments automatically
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.11.1
          Hardware: All
               URL: https://bugs.debian.org/770678
                OS: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/Privacy
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: mones at users.sourceforge.net

Summary of original request:

- PGP/MIME cannot be used (MS Outlook recipients)
- PGP/Inline works
- MSO recipients can handle message and attachments, Claws Mail only message

Full details on https://bugs.debian.org/770678

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Nov 24 10:43:34 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 09:43:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3334] PGP Inline: handle attachments automatically
In-Reply-To: <bug-3334-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3334-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3334-595-CKWWBn2Lx8@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3334

Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
            Summary|PGP Inline: decrypt         |PGP Inline: handle
                   |attachments automatically   |attachments automatically

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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Nov 24 10:47:10 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 09:47:10 +0000
Subject: [Users] Filter incoming messages by recipients
In-Reply-To: <20141124103931.2557fc85@archlinux>
References: <20141124103931.2557fc85@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141124094710.61900b6f@thewildbeast>

On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 10:39:31 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 

> is there a way, that a filter rule can take care about the header's
> "X-Apparently-To"? Filtering recipients, To and Cc doesn't work, if
> mail is sent by a mailing list.
> 
> I need to filter by recipients, and they need to include To, Cc and
> X-Apparently-To.

Normally for mailing lists you can use the List-Id header.

Anyway, in the filter config, use Match Criteria Header and if the
default selection doesn't contain the header you want then write it
in yourself.

with regards

Paul


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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Mon Nov 24 11:13:08 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 11:13:08 +0100
Subject: [Users] Filter incoming messages by recipients
In-Reply-To: <20141124094710.61900b6f@thewildbeast>
References: <20141124103931.2557fc85@archlinux>
 <20141124094710.61900b6f@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141124111308.2598364f@archlinux>

On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 09:47:10 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 10:39:31 +0100
> Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> > is there a way, that a filter rule can take care about the header's
> > "X-Apparently-To"? Filtering recipients, To and Cc doesn't work, if
> > mail is sent by a mailing list.
> > 
> > I need to filter by recipients, and they need to include To, Cc and
> > X-Apparently-To.
> 
> Normally for mailing lists you can use the List-Id header.

No, I can not, since I don't want to filter by mailing list, I want to
filter by recipients.

E.g.
X-Apparently-To: info.mardorfATrocketmail.com
List-Id: <users.lists.claws-mail.org>
and some mails are not sent from mailing lists.

I'm not interested to filter mails by a mailing list, I need to filter
mails by recipients.

> Anyway, in the filter config, use Match Criteria Header and if the
> default selection doesn't contain the header you want then write it
> in yourself.

Thank you

from matchcase ".ru"
header "To or Cc or X-Apparently-To" matchcase "foo at x.com"
~from matchcase "bar at exception1.ru
~from matchcase "bar at exception2.ru
Message must match all of the above rules

at least does work for "X-Apparently-To", so I suspect it will work for
"To" and "Cc" too.

Regards,
Ralf



From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Mon Nov 24 11:33:23 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 11:33:23 +0100
Subject: [Users] Filter incoming messages by recipients
In-Reply-To: <20141124111308.2598364f@archlinux>
References: <20141124103931.2557fc85@archlinux>
 <20141124094710.61900b6f@thewildbeast>
 <20141124111308.2598364f@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141124113323.090a480a@archlinux>

On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 11:13:08 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 09:47:10 +0000
> Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 10:39:31 +0100
> > Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 
> > 
> > > is there a way, that a filter rule can take care about the
> > > header's "X-Apparently-To"? Filtering recipients, To and Cc
> > > doesn't work, if mail is sent by a mailing list.
> > > 
> > > I need to filter by recipients, and they need to include To, Cc
> > > and X-Apparently-To.
> > 
> > Normally for mailing lists you can use the List-Id header.
> 
> No, I can not, since I don't want to filter by mailing list, I want to
> filter by recipients.
> 
> E.g.
> X-Apparently-To: info.mardorfATrocketmail.com
> List-Id: <users.lists.claws-mail.org>
> and some mails are not sent from mailing lists.
> 
> I'm not interested to filter mails by a mailing list, I need to filter
> mails by recipients.
> 
> > Anyway, in the filter config, use Match Criteria Header and if the
> > default selection doesn't contain the header you want then write it
> > in yourself.
> 
> Thank you
> 
> from matchcase ".ru"
> header "To or Cc or X-Apparently-To" matchcase "foo at x.com"
> ~from matchcase "bar at exception1.ru
> ~from matchcase "bar at exception2.ru
> Message must match all of the above rules
> 
> at least does work for "X-Apparently-To", so I suspect it will work
> for "To" and "Cc" too.

I'm mistaken, it doesn't work :(.

header "X-Apparently-To" matchcase "foo at x.com" does work, but
header "To or Cc or X-Apparently-To" matchcase "foo at x.com" doesn't work.

So is there a way to get the wanted behaviour, without the need to set
up two filter rules?

Fortunately I forgot to add [solved] to the subject :D, unfortunately
it isn't solved.


From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Mon Nov 24 11:51:32 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 11:51:32 +0100
Subject: [Users] [most likely solved soon] Filter incoming messages by
 recipients
In-Reply-To: <20141124113323.090a480a@archlinux>
References: <20141124103931.2557fc85@archlinux>
 <20141124094710.61900b6f@thewildbeast>
 <20141124111308.2598364f@archlinux>
 <20141124113323.090a480a@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141124115132.5a46a046@archlinux>

Oops, not tested yet, but on my todo list. I noticed that I don't need
to use a filter for all my POP accounts, I also can use a filter for
just one POP account, so I suspect the wanted filter can be realised.


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Nov 24 11:56:26 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 10:56:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] Filter incoming messages by recipients
In-Reply-To: <20141124113323.090a480a@archlinux>
References: <20141124103931.2557fc85@archlinux>
 <20141124094710.61900b6f@thewildbeast>
 <20141124111308.2598364f@archlinux>
 <20141124113323.090a480a@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141124105626.1440694b@thewildbeast>

On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 11:33:23 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 

> header "X-Apparently-To" matchcase "foo at x.com" does work, but
> header "To or Cc or X-Apparently-To" matchcase "foo at x.com" doesn't
> work.
> 
> So is there a way to get the wanted behaviour, without the need to
> set up two filter rules?

Seems that you're trying to write these rules by hand but getting the
syntax wrong. Use the GUI to create the filter rules. Use 'To or CC'
from the drop down list. If you that then you will have something
like that:

to_or_cc matchcase "foo at x.com" | header "X-Apparently-To" matchcase "foo at x.com"

with regards

Paul


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From info.mardorf at rocketmail.com  Mon Nov 24 12:17:29 2014
From: info.mardorf at rocketmail.com (Ralf Mardorf)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 12:17:29 +0100
Subject: [Users] Filter incoming messages by recipients
In-Reply-To: <20141124105626.1440694b@thewildbeast>
References: <20141124103931.2557fc85@archlinux>
 <20141124094710.61900b6f@thewildbeast>
 <20141124111308.2598364f@archlinux>
 <20141124113323.090a480a@archlinux>
 <20141124105626.1440694b@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141124121729.70432c48@archlinux>

On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 10:56:26 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 11:33:23 +0100
> Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> > header "X-Apparently-To" matchcase "foo at x.com" does work, but
> > header "To or Cc or X-Apparently-To" matchcase "foo at x.com" doesn't
> > work.
> > 
> > So is there a way to get the wanted behaviour, without the need to
> > set up two filter rules?
> 
> Seems that you're trying to write these rules by hand but getting the
> syntax wrong. Use the GUI to create the filter rules. Use 'To or CC'
> from the drop down list. If you that then you will have something
> like that:
> 
> to_or_cc matchcase "foo at x.com" | header "X-Apparently-To" matchcase
> "foo at x.com"

No, Im using the GUI and what you recommend won't work, because "all" of
the additional other conditions need to fit, while "any" of the CC, To,
X-..." conditions needs to fit.

Anyway, my bad, I missed that I don't need to to filter "All" accounts,
but I can just use a "single" account instead.

I suspect one minor issue. It likely will work for incoming mails, but
if I apply the filter to mails that were received in the past, it likely
won't work, when selecting a "single" account.

I'll test ASAP and report back.


From jerry at seibercom.net  Mon Nov 24 13:11:48 2014
From: jerry at seibercom.net (Jerry)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 07:11:48 -0500
Subject: [Users] Printing multiple documents
In-Reply-To: <20141124082921.GQ6899@trasgu>
References: <20141120114638.3cc059db@seibercom.net>
 <20141124082921.GQ6899@trasgu>
Message-ID: <20141124071148.10e9d429@seibercom.net>

On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 09:29:21 +0100, Ricardo Mones stated:


>It seems a reasonable behaviour. Can you file an enhancement request
>at our bugzilla? → http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/

All I can find is a page for entering bugs, but not feature requests.

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From subscript at free.fr  Mon Nov 24 13:22:46 2014
From: subscript at free.fr (wwp)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 13:22:46 +0100
Subject: [Users] Printing multiple documents
In-Reply-To: <20141124071148.10e9d429@seibercom.net>
References: <20141120114638.3cc059db@seibercom.net>
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Message-ID: <20141124132246.0e308ade@anthra>

Hello Jerry,


On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 07:11:48 -0500 Jerry <jerry at seibercom.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 09:29:21 +0100, Ricardo Mones stated:
> 
> 
> >It seems a reasonable behaviour. Can you file an enhancement request
> >at our bugzilla? → http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/
> 
> All I can find is a page for entering bugs, but not feature requests.

Enter a bug, set the Importance to "P3 enhancement".


Regards,

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From ricardo at mones.org  Mon Nov 24 13:27:13 2014
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 13:27:13 +0100
Subject: [Users] Printing multiple documents
In-Reply-To: <20141124071148.10e9d429@seibercom.net>
References: <20141120114638.3cc059db@seibercom.net>
 <20141124082921.GQ6899@trasgu>
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Message-ID: <20141124122713.GT6899@trasgu>

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 07:11:48AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 09:29:21 +0100, Ricardo Mones stated:
> 
> 
> >It seems a reasonable behaviour. Can you file an enhancement request
> >at our bugzilla? → http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/
> 
> All I can find is a page for entering bugs, but not feature requests.

A feature request is a bug of severity “enhancement”.

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  ~
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Nov 24 13:33:21 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 12:33:21 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3335] New: Printing Multiple Documents Simultaneously
Message-ID: <bug-3335-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3335

            Bug ID: 3335
           Summary: Printing Multiple Documents Simultaneously
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: other
          Hardware: PC
                OS: FreeBSD
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: Other
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: gerard.seibert at gmail.com

I often print several emails out in succession. I noticed that if I highlight
several emails, then <file> <print>, I am asked to confirm each file before it
is printed. That does not make sense. If I highlighted several files and then
click print, it is rather obvious that I wanted to print all of those files.
This is a rather big annoyance if I am printing out say 25 or 30 emails.

MS Outlook allows me to print more than one file at a time, and I would like to
see claws-mail offering the opportunity.

Could this behavior be modified? I could not find any configuration option that
would address this problem.

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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Mon Nov 24 18:09:51 2014
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 12:09:51 -0500
Subject: [Users] [most likely solved soon] Filter incoming messages by
 recipients
In-Reply-To: <20141124115132.5a46a046@archlinux>
References: <20141124103931.2557fc85@archlinux>
 <20141124094710.61900b6f@thewildbeast>
 <20141124111308.2598364f@archlinux>
 <20141124113323.090a480a@archlinux>
 <20141124115132.5a46a046@archlinux>
Message-ID: <20141124120951.23da230b@mydesq2.domain.cxm>

On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 11:51:32 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> Oops, not tested yet, but on my todo list. I noticed that I don't need
> to use a filter for all my POP accounts, I also can use a filter for
> just one POP account, so I suspect the wanted filter can be realised.

Hi Ralf,

You'll probably solve it soon, but in the unlikely event you don't, you
can always do this one filter (or all filtering, for that matter) using
procmail.

SteveT

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Nov 24 20:11:55 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 19:11:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3336] New: Claws-Mail saves e-mails to Drafts,
 no way to disable it
Message-ID: <bug-3336-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3336

            Bug ID: 3336
           Summary: Claws-Mail saves e-mails to Drafts, no way to disable
                    it
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.10.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: major
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: oyvinds at everdot.org

1) Use GnuPG
2) Compose e-mail
3) Watch Claws-Mail save your e-mail IN PLAINTEXT to the server you have
configured
4) Get your e-mail read by your e-mail provider

I am unable to find anywhere I can disable Claws-Mail from saving the e-mails
being composed to the "Drafts" folder. This is a major security problem and
makes Claws-Mail completely insecure when used with GnuPG.

Preferred behaviour would be to NEVER save your e-mails to "Drafts" when a
GnuPG key is configured for an account. An alternative solution could be to
save it as a message encrypted to yourself when saving to Drafts but I think
the best thing to do would be to not save messages to Drafts. This could be a
configuration option which is enabled by default if a GnuPG key is set.

There should probably be a configuration option to prevent it from saving
anything to "Drafts" every even for non-GnuPG users.

GnuPG+Claws-Mail is to be considered unsecure and compromized with the current
way it works.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Nov 24 20:21:05 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 19:21:05 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3336] Claws-Mail saves e-mails to Drafts,
	no way to disable it
In-Reply-To: <bug-3336-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3336-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3336-595-q6x28O8jn9@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3336

--- Comment #1 from oyvinds at everdot.org ---
After looking more I found

Preferences -> Compose -> Writing to disble "Save to drafts"

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Nov 24 20:21:50 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 19:21:50 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3336] Claws-Mail saves e-mails to Drafts,
	no way to disable it
In-Reply-To: <bug-3336-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3336-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3336-595-83isCu34z9@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3336

oyvinds at everdot.org changed:

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Nov 24 20:23:42 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 19:23:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3336] Claws-Mail saves e-mails to Drafts,
	no way to disable it
In-Reply-To: <bug-3336-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3336-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3336-595-YDgNOoWrF0@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3336

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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         Resolution|INVALID                     |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #2 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 2965 ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Nov 24 20:23:42 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 19:23:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2965] Encrypted mails are stored unencrypted in
 'Queue' while sending via IMAP
In-Reply-To: <bug-2965-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2965-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2965-595-h51CB16FLv@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2965

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
*** Bug 3336 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Nov 24 20:26:29 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 19:26:29 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3336] Claws-Mail saves e-mails to Drafts,
	no way to disable it
In-Reply-To: <bug-3336-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3336-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3336-595-5Qq4mxVEFV@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3336

--- Comment #3 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
(In reply to comment #0)
> GnuPG+Claws-Mail is to be considered unsecure and compromized with the
> current way it works.

That's nonsense, an overstatement at best.
You can use a Local queue and drafts folder in an MH mailbox, and besides, IMAP
accounts are not the only kind of accounts.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Nov 24 20:30:42 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 19:30:42 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3337] New: pgp plugin does not work with gnupg 2.1.0
Message-ID: <bug-3337-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3337

            Bug ID: 3337
           Summary: pgp plugin does not work with gnupg 2.1.0
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.11.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: hanno at hboeck.de

GnuPG recently released version 2.1.0. It seems claws-mail does not work with
it.

When I try to send a message it tells me
"Could not queue message for sending:

Signature failed: Data signing failed, General error"

When I want to decrypt a message I get:
"Couldn't decrypt: Decryption failed"

Tried with the latest 3.11.1 version of claws-mail.

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From itz at buug.org  Mon Nov 24 20:15:00 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 11:15:00 -0800
Subject: [Users] External editor?
In-Reply-To: <20141110135947.515c799a.itz@buug.org>
References: <20141104181922.7dd4e69d@desktop-1.home>
 <20141104214136.6c5e7492@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141105142242.54fc7f6e@PPlive>
 <20141104223045.4f1dc64c@cel.celehner.com>
 <20141108173557.0af6bf54@PPlive>
 <20141107231507.5bd7c45c.itz@buug.org>
 <20141109185426.1d86c85d@PPlive>
 <20141109093715.70323f32.itz@buug.org>
 <20141110125347.7cec695a@anarchist.wooz.org>
 <20141110112959.02f16fae.itz@buug.org>
 <CAEnBMPZ+mv3Ehhzd-W8mvaMtH0GLOwr3vhTTjM5mVkDJpC=ekw@mail.gmail.com>
 <20141110135947.515c799a.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20141124111500.1a1c97cd.itz@buug.org>

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 13:59:47 -0800,
Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:

Dan> I'd like to become a better Emacs user too, and tying all of these
Dan> suggestions together would be a useful exercise...

Ian> Wiki, hmm.  I will blog about it.  Maybe.

Done:

https://primate.net/~itz/blog/emacs-and-claws-mail.html

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Mon Nov 24 20:33:31 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 19:33:31 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3337] pgp plugin does not work with gnupg 2.1.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-3337-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3337-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3337-595-L7MmVOGDAm@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3337

Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> changed:

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That'll be a problem with gnupg-agent, gnupg 2.1 uses a fixed socket path
~/.gnupg/S.gpg-agent

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From mgr at nordkrater.de  Mon Nov 24 23:26:34 2014
From: mgr at nordkrater.de (Manuel =?UTF-8?B?R3Jvw58=?=)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:26:34 +0100
Subject: [Users] Integrating vdirsync
Message-ID: <20141124232634.2db11d04@materia>

Hey there,

I just managed to set up vdirsync with my carddav server which runs
a horde webmail. I know have a series of .vcf files (one per
contact) synced to a local directory and wondered how to integrate
those into Claws-Mail.
I see Claws-Mail expects a vcf-file to contain a complete address-book,
so each one has to be added manually. Since I don't want to do that for
each of my contacs, which also tend to fluctuate, this is not an option
for me. 
Also converting those to an addressbook once does not enable me
to sync in both ways.

Is there any way to establish a bi-directional contact syncronisation
in a series of vcf-files?

I am thankful for any hint or pointer here :)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Nov 25 07:57:06 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 06:57:06 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3324] Frequent seg faults when using NNTP
In-Reply-To: <bug-3324-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3324-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3324-595-Z2sskAlY2w@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3324

Marvin <marvint.roebuck at inbox.lv> changed:

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--- Comment #5 from Marvin <marvint.roebuck at inbox.lv> ---
These seem to be the significant entries from stdout

gtkcmctree.c:3668 Condition node != NULL failed
traceback:

0:  /bin/claws-mail(gtk_cmctree_expand+0x158)

24: /bin/claws-mail(grouplist_dialog+0x965)


Also from the kernel:
traps: claws-mail[19393] general protection ip:7f2982695830 sp:7f297ea319c8
error:0 in libetpan.so.17.1.0

Do to freq. of crashes while using nntp I'm guessing the feature is not used by
many others.

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From emmapeel at aktivix.org  Tue Nov 25 11:47:26 2014
From: emmapeel at aktivix.org (Emma Peel)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 10:47:26 +0000
Subject: [Users] TLS configuration per account
Message-ID: <20141125104726.16994358@aktivix.org>

Hello:

I am configuring my mail account in Claws mail and I would like to use
TLS but not StartTLS. I cannot seem to find any documentation about
this on the Claws wikipage, though I see a mention of a hidden
configuration for gnutls priority on the news page
(http://www.claws-mail.org/news.php).

Is this something I can use on the accountsrc to configure my
connection to the server with TLS support?

If so, how is the option added?


Thanks in advance!



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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Nov 25 12:15:28 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 11:15:28 +0000
Subject: [Users] TLS configuration per account
In-Reply-To: <20141125104726.16994358@aktivix.org>
References: <20141125104726.16994358@aktivix.org>
Message-ID: <20141125111528.6603a267@thewildbeast>

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 10:47:26 +0000
Emma Peel <emmapeel at aktivix.org> wrote: 

> I am configuring my mail account in Claws mail and I would like to
> use TLS but not StartTLS. I cannot seem to find any documentation
> about this on the Claws wikipage, though I see a mention of a hidden
> configuration for gnutls priority on the news page
> (http://www.claws-mail.org/news.php).
> 
> Is this something I can use on the accountsrc to configure my
> connection to the server with TLS support?
> 
> If so, how is the option added?

First you need to upgrade to the latest release, 3.11.1.

Then you need to edit ~/.claws-mail/accountrc manually, in your
favourite text editor, while Claws Mail is not running.

For each account block you need to edit these 2 options to read thus,
(or as you require):

gnutls_set_priority=1
gnutls_priority=NONE:+VERS-TLS1.0:+VERS-TLS1.1:+VERS-TLS1.2

Note that if you haven't run version 3.11.1 at least once, these
account options will not be present in accountrc. So either start
3.11.1 once and quit it before editing the file, or just add these
options before running 3.11.1.

with regards

Paul


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From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org  Tue Nov 25 12:16:01 2014
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron))
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 08:16:01 -0300
Subject: [Users] A filtering annoyance
Message-ID: <20141125081601.70ac30ac@ron.cerrocora.org>

I have a number of filter rules to sort out the incoming mail in various specialized folders (Linux, IPCop, Railways, etc) and they mostly work well; yet in recent weeks I have noticed that there are often messages that should be filtered, and that remain in the Inbox.

If I then select all the unread messages in the inbox, and go to Tools => Filter selected messages they get sorted in the corresponding folders.
 
Where should I look ?

Cheers,
 
Ron.
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                         One must improvise as well.
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                   -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
 



From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Nov 25 12:21:30 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 11:21:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] A filtering annoyance
In-Reply-To: <20141125081601.70ac30ac@ron.cerrocora.org>
References: <20141125081601.70ac30ac@ron.cerrocora.org>
Message-ID: <20141125112130.25d75c46@thewildbeast>

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 08:16:01 -0300
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org> wrote: 

> Where should I look ?

Turn on the filtering log here:
/Configuration/Preferences/Other/Logging

Then inspect the log here:
/Tools/Filtering log

Turn off the filtering logging when not needed as it can slow down
operations drastically.

with regards

Paul


-- 
Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières


From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Nov 25 12:24:48 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 11:24:48 +0000
Subject: [Users] TLS configuration per account
In-Reply-To: <20141125104726.16994358@aktivix.org>
References: <20141125104726.16994358@aktivix.org>
Message-ID: <20141125112448.56950524@thewildbeast>

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 10:47:26 +0000
Emma Peel <emmapeel at aktivix.org> wrote: 

> I am configuring my mail account in Claws mail and I would like to
> use TLS but not StartTLS.

A simpler answer would be just set your account to 'Use SSL' and not
'Use STARTTLS'

with regards

Paul


-- 
Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières


From emmapeel at aktivix.org  Tue Nov 25 16:11:07 2014
From: emmapeel at aktivix.org (Emma Peel)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:11:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] TLS configuration per account
In-Reply-To: <20141125112448.56950524@thewildbeast>
References: <20141125104726.16994358@aktivix.org>
 <20141125112448.56950524@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141125151107.694ad1ef@aktivix.org>

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 11:24:48 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 10:47:26 +0000
> Emma Peel <emmapeel at aktivix.org> wrote: 
> 
> > I am configuring my mail account in Claws mail and I would like to
> > use TLS but not StartTLS.
> 
> A simpler answer would be just set your account to 'Use SSL' and not
> 'Use STARTTLS'
> 

Thanks for the quick answer!

I did this. I am using Tails and is shipping Claws mail with version
3.8.1

Does this workaround also works with this earlier version of Claws
mail? Or I still need to upgrade to use TLS?

Thanks again!
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From claws at thewildbeast.co.uk  Tue Nov 25 16:21:54 2014
From: claws at thewildbeast.co.uk (Paul)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:21:54 +0000
Subject: [Users] TLS configuration per account
In-Reply-To: <20141125151107.694ad1ef@aktivix.org>
References: <20141125104726.16994358@aktivix.org>
 <20141125112448.56950524@thewildbeast>
 <20141125151107.694ad1ef@aktivix.org>
Message-ID: <20141125152154.7567416f@thewildbeast>

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:11:07 +0000
Emma Peel <emmapeel at aktivix.org> wrote: 

> Thanks for the quick answer!
> 
> I did this. I am using Tails and is shipping Claws mail with version
> 3.8.1
> 
> Does this workaround also works with this earlier version of Claws
> mail? Or I still need to upgrade to use TLS?
> 
> Thanks again!

If you want to be fully in control and exact in your requirements
then the first answer is the one that really matters. You should
upgrade to 3.11.1 and set the priority string. Tails should also
provide version 3.11.1.

with regards

Paul


-- 
Guerre aux châteaux, Paix aux chaumières


From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org  Tue Nov 25 19:21:58 2014
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron))
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:21:58 -0300
Subject: [Users] A filtering annoyance
In-Reply-To: <20141125112130.25d75c46@thewildbeast>
References: <20141125081601.70ac30ac@ron.cerrocora.org>
 <20141125112130.25d75c46@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141125152158.5a7f0028@ron.cerrocora.org>

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 11:21:30 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:

> Then inspect the log here:
>  window.

Could you give me the location of the log file please ?

I'll need to grep it to dig out the info, there are too many filters with too many conditions for direct exploitation of the /Tools/Filtering log
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
-- 
                Indifference will be the downfall of mankind;
                               but who cares ?
                                    
                   -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
 



From pf at pfortin.com  Tue Nov 25 19:41:03 2014
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 13:41:03 -0500
Subject: [Users] A filtering annoyance
In-Reply-To: <20141125152158.5a7f0028@ron.cerrocora.org>
References: <20141125081601.70ac30ac@ron.cerrocora.org>
 <20141125112130.25d75c46@thewildbeast>
 <20141125152158.5a7f0028@ron.cerrocora.org>
Message-ID: <20141125134103.333aa9c6@pfortin.com>

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:21:58 -0300 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:

>Could you give me the location of the log file please ?

~/.claws-mail/filtering.log


From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org  Tue Nov 25 20:13:34 2014
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron))
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:13:34 -0300
Subject: [Users] A filtering annoyance
In-Reply-To: <20141125134103.333aa9c6@pfortin.com>
References: <20141125081601.70ac30ac@ron.cerrocora.org>
 <20141125112130.25d75c46@thewildbeast>
 <20141125152158.5a7f0028@ron.cerrocora.org>
 <20141125134103.333aa9c6@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20141125161334.625c5207@ron.cerrocora.org>

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 13:41:03 -0500
Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:

> >Could you give me the location of the log file please ?  
> 
> ~/.claws-mail/filtering.log

Ta, now I can start grepping like one demented  ;-3)
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
-- 
                         What the large print giveth,
                         the small print taketh away.
                                    
                   -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
 



From lfisk at iserv.net  Tue Nov 25 21:34:02 2014
From: lfisk at iserv.net (Leon Fisk)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:34:02 -0400
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3324] Frequent seg faults when using NNTP
In-Reply-To: <bug-3324-595-Z2sskAlY2w@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3324-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
 <bug-3324-595-Z2sskAlY2w@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <201411252034.sAPKY4Td020693@mail2.iserv.net>

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 06:57:06 +0000
noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk wrote:

<snip>
>Do to freq. of crashes while using nntp I'm guessing the feature is not used by
>many others.

I use nntp more than email, pretty much every day. I can't recall any
crashes. Been using Claws for this since ~2010

libetpan 1.4-1 built locally from source
-- 
Leon
Claws 3.11.0+some patches, Ubuntu Karmic-Lucid


From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Nov 26 00:48:55 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 23:48:55 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3337] pgp plugin does not work with gnupg 2.1.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-3337-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3337-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3337-595-StLy22OuI4@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3337

--- Comment #2 from Hanno Boeck <hanno at hboeck.de> ---
I can't really follow. Why have you marked the bug invalid?
Should it work? Is there any option that can be changed to make it work? Do you
consider this a bug in gpg itself? (is it reported?)

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From mpara.faith at gmail.com  Wed Nov 26 03:47:53 2014
From: mpara.faith at gmail.com (mpara.faith at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 20:47:53 -0600
Subject: [Users] You have a new notification from mpara.faith@gmail.com.
	View??
Message-ID: <0.0.2D3.CCA.1D00922C6B7CF14.259B@mail7.flipmailer.com>

Hi,

mpara.faith at gmail.com wants to follow you.

****** Is mpara.faith at gmail.com you friend? ******
If Yes please follow the link below:
http://invites.discovercoolwebsites.com/signup_e.html?fullname=&amp;email=users at lists.claws-mail.org&amp;invitername=mpara.faith&amp;inviterid=35166047&amp;userid=0&amp;token=0&amp;emailmasterid=c1b0ae4f-672e-414e-a9ac-738235d29acb&amp;from=mpara.faith at gmail.com&src=txt_yes

If No please follow the link below:
http://invites.discovercoolwebsites.com/signup_e.html?fullname=&amp;email=users at lists.claws-mail.org&amp;invitername=mpara.faith&amp;inviterid=35166047&amp;userid=0&amp;token=0&amp;emailmasterid=c1b0ae4f-672e-414e-a9ac-738235d29acb&amp;from=mpara.faith at gmail.com&src=txt_no


Follow the link below to remove yourself from all such emails
http://invites.discovercoolwebsites.com/uns_inviter.jsp?email=users at lists.claws-mail.org&amp;iid=c1b0ae4f-672e-414e-a9ac-738235d29acb&amp;from=mpara.faith at gmail.com


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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Nov 26 05:48:04 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 04:48:04 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3337] pgp plugin does not work with gnupg 2.1.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-3337-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3337-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3337-595-1ugLALVXA2@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3337

--- Comment #3 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
This problem already came up. I am informed that with GnuPG 2.1 GPG_AGENT_INFO
is ignored and it instead uses a fixed location:  ~/.gnupg/S.gpg-agent

Therefore there is no bug, (hence INVALID), but GnuPG 2.1 requires you to
adjust your habits with regard to your use of GnuPG-agent.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Nov 26 05:52:22 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 04:52:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3337] pgp plugin does not work with gnupg 2.1.0
In-Reply-To: <bug-3337-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3337-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3337-595-cxBOEKcccl@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3337

--- Comment #4 from Paul <paul at claws-mail.org> ---
See https://www.gnupg.org/faq/whats-new-in-2.1.html#autostart

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From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org  Wed Nov 26 06:51:22 2014
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron))
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 02:51:22 -0300
Subject: [Users] A filtering annoyance
In-Reply-To: <20141125161334.625c5207@ron.cerrocora.org>
References: <20141125081601.70ac30ac@ron.cerrocora.org>
 <20141125112130.25d75c46@thewildbeast>
 <20141125152158.5a7f0028@ron.cerrocora.org>
 <20141125134103.333aa9c6@pfortin.com>
 <20141125161334.625c5207@ron.cerrocora.org>
Message-ID: <20141126025122.35a7fb0d@ron.cerrocora.org>

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:13:34 -0300
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org> wrote:

> Ta, now I can start grepping like one demented  ;-3)

is the log file in some kind of binary format ?

While the files exists, and has a content per:
	$ wc ~/.claws-mail/filtering.log
	 1356 10062 70767 /home/ron/.claws-mail/filtering.log

Trying to grep it, or to open it in an editor with:
	$ mousepad ~/.claws-mail/filtering.log
gives nothing at all.

???????
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
-- 
     Terrorists and totalitarians have always been two sides of one coin;
                 a totalitarian out of office is a terrorist.
                                                       -- David Gelernter
                                    
                   -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
 



From emmapeel at aktivix.org  Wed Nov 26 09:36:36 2014
From: emmapeel at aktivix.org (Emma Peel)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 08:36:36 +0000
Subject: [Users] TLS configuration per account
In-Reply-To: <20141125152154.7567416f@thewildbeast>
References: <20141125104726.16994358@aktivix.org>
 <20141125112448.56950524@thewildbeast>
 <20141125151107.694ad1ef@aktivix.org>
 <20141125152154.7567416f@thewildbeast>
Message-ID: <20141126083636.507d1186@aktivix.org>

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:21:54 +0000
Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> If you want to be fully in control and exact in your requirements
> then the first answer is the one that really matters. You should
> upgrade to 3.11.1 and set the priority string. Tails should also
> provide version 3.11.1.
> 
Thank you very much. I have added a ticket at Tails bugtracker to see
if it is possible to upgrade Claws:

https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/8305
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From ricardo at mones.org  Wed Nov 26 10:02:32 2014
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 10:02:32 +0100
Subject: [Users] TLS configuration per account
In-Reply-To: <20141126083636.507d1186@aktivix.org>
References: <20141125104726.16994358@aktivix.org>
 <20141125112448.56950524@thewildbeast>
 <20141125151107.694ad1ef@aktivix.org>
 <20141125152154.7567416f@thewildbeast>
 <20141126083636.507d1186@aktivix.org>
Message-ID: <20141126090232.GV6899@trasgu>

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 08:36:36AM +0000, Emma Peel wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:21:54 +0000
> Paul <claws at thewildbeast.co.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > If you want to be fully in control and exact in your requirements
> > then the first answer is the one that really matters. You should
> > upgrade to 3.11.1 and set the priority string. Tails should also
> > provide version 3.11.1.
> > 
> Thank you very much. I have added a ticket at Tails bugtracker to see
> if it is possible to upgrade Claws:
> 
> https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/8305

In addition to that you said there, maybe is worth to remind to the TAILS
developers that one of the bugfixes of 3.11.1 is¹:

“Use 'gnutls_priority' hidden account preference for POP3 and STARTTLS
connections, in addition to SMTP.”

That was not possible with previous versions, and I guess it's what
Paul referred as to be fully in control.

regards,

¹ http://sourceforge.net/p/claws-mail/news/2014/10/claws-mail-3111-unleashed/
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  The world will end in 5 minutes. Please log out.            Unknown

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From emmapeel at aktivix.org  Wed Nov 26 10:25:33 2014
From: emmapeel at aktivix.org (Emma Peel)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 09:25:33 +0000
Subject: [Users] TLS configuration per account
In-Reply-To: <20141126090232.GV6899@trasgu>
References: <20141125104726.16994358@aktivix.org>
 <20141125112448.56950524@thewildbeast>
 <20141125151107.694ad1ef@aktivix.org>
 <20141125152154.7567416f@thewildbeast>
 <20141126083636.507d1186@aktivix.org>
 <20141126090232.GV6899@trasgu>
Message-ID: <20141126092533.1182ec68@aktivix.org>

On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 10:02:32 +0100
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:
> 
> In addition to that you said there, maybe is worth to remind to the
> TAILS developers that one of the bugfixes of 3.11.1 is¹:
> 
> “Use 'gnutls_priority' hidden account preference for POP3 and STARTTLS
> connections, in addition to SMTP.”
> 
> That was not possible with previous versions, and I guess it's what
> Paul referred as to be fully in control.
> 
> regards,
> 
> ¹
> http://sourceforge.net/p/claws-mail/news/2014/10/claws-mail-3111-unleashed/

Thanks for the timely pointer, Ricardo. I have added it. With
attribution of course :)
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From ricardo at mones.org  Wed Nov 26 12:20:38 2014
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 12:20:38 +0100
Subject: [Users] TLS configuration per account
In-Reply-To: <20141126092533.1182ec68@aktivix.org>
References: <20141125104726.16994358@aktivix.org>
 <20141125112448.56950524@thewildbeast>
 <20141125151107.694ad1ef@aktivix.org>
 <20141125152154.7567416f@thewildbeast>
 <20141126083636.507d1186@aktivix.org>
 <20141126090232.GV6899@trasgu>
 <20141126092533.1182ec68@aktivix.org>
Message-ID: <20141126112038.GW6899@trasgu>

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 09:25:33AM +0000, Emma Peel wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 10:02:32 +0100
> Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:
> > 
> > In addition to that you said there, maybe is worth to remind to the
> > TAILS developers that one of the bugfixes of 3.11.1 is¹:
> > 
> > “Use 'gnutls_priority' hidden account preference for POP3 and STARTTLS
> > connections, in addition to SMTP.”
> > 
> > That was not possible with previous versions, and I guess it's what
> > Paul referred as to be fully in control.
> > 
> > regards,
> > 
> > ¹
> > http://sourceforge.net/p/claws-mail/news/2014/10/claws-mail-3111-unleashed/
> 
> Thanks for the timely pointer, Ricardo. I have added it. With
> attribution of course :)

You're welcome! It was public info anyway, just reminding it, but thanks ;)
-- 
  Ricardo Mones 
  ~
  00:45 < hammar> cool.. have you used rssyl?                          
  00:46 <@Ticho> um, yes                            Seen on #sylpheed

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From pf at pfortin.com  Wed Nov 26 14:23:32 2014
From: pf at pfortin.com (Pierre Fortin)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 08:23:32 -0500
Subject: [Users] A filtering annoyance
In-Reply-To: <20141126025122.35a7fb0d@ron.cerrocora.org>
References: <20141125081601.70ac30ac@ron.cerrocora.org>
 <20141125112130.25d75c46@thewildbeast>
 <20141125152158.5a7f0028@ron.cerrocora.org>
 <20141125134103.333aa9c6@pfortin.com>
 <20141125161334.625c5207@ron.cerrocora.org>
 <20141126025122.35a7fb0d@ron.cerrocora.org>
Message-ID: <20141126082332.23e8e698@pfortin.com>

On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 02:51:22 -0300 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:

>On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:13:34 -0300
>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org> wrote:
>
>> Ta, now I can start grepping like one demented  ;-3)
>
>is the log file in some kind of binary format ?
>
>While the files exists, and has a content per:
>	$ wc ~/.claws-mail/filtering.log
>	 1356 10062 70767 /home/ron/.claws-mail/filtering.log

$ file .claws-mail/filtering.log
.claws-mail/filtering.log: ASCII text, with very long lines

Looks like plain text to me, less, emacs, vi, cat...

>Trying to grep it, or to open it in an editor with:
>	$ mousepad ~/.claws-mail/filtering.log
>gives nothing at all.
>
>???????
> 
>Cheers,
> 
>Ron.


From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org  Wed Nov 26 14:44:47 2014
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron))
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 10:44:47 -0300
Subject: [Users] A filtering annoyance
In-Reply-To: <20141126082332.23e8e698@pfortin.com>
References: <20141125081601.70ac30ac@ron.cerrocora.org>
 <20141125112130.25d75c46@thewildbeast>
 <20141125152158.5a7f0028@ron.cerrocora.org>
 <20141125134103.333aa9c6@pfortin.com>
 <20141125161334.625c5207@ron.cerrocora.org>
 <20141126025122.35a7fb0d@ron.cerrocora.org>
 <20141126082332.23e8e698@pfortin.com>
Message-ID: <20141126104447.63f72dc0@ron.cerrocora.org>

On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 08:23:32 -0500
Pierre Fortin <pf at pfortin.com> wrote:

> >> Ta, now I can start grepping like one demented  ;-3)

> >is the log file in some kind of binary format ?
> >While the files exists, and has a content per:
> >	$ wc ~/.claws-mail/filtering.log
> >	 1356 10062 70767 /home/ron/.claws-mail/filtering.log
> >Trying to grep it, or to open it in an editor with:
> >	$ mousepad ~/.claws-mail/filtering.log
> >gives nothing at all.
 
> $ file .claws-mail/filtering.log
> .claws-mail/filtering.log: ASCII text, with very long lines

I get a rather different result:

	$ file .claws-mail/filtering.log
	.claws-mail/filtering.log: data
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
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From andrej at kacian.sk  Wed Nov 26 18:34:54 2014
From: andrej at kacian.sk (Andrej Kacian)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 18:34:54 +0100
Subject: [Users] A filtering annoyance
In-Reply-To: <20141126104447.63f72dc0@ron.cerrocora.org>
References: <20141125081601.70ac30ac@ron.cerrocora.org>
 <20141125112130.25d75c46@thewildbeast>
 <20141125152158.5a7f0028@ron.cerrocora.org>
 <20141125134103.333aa9c6@pfortin.com>
 <20141125161334.625c5207@ron.cerrocora.org>
 <20141126025122.35a7fb0d@ron.cerrocora.org>
 <20141126082332.23e8e698@pfortin.com>
 <20141126104447.63f72dc0@ron.cerrocora.org>
Message-ID: <20141126183454.267831a4@penny>

On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 10:44:47 -0300
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org> wrote:

> > $ file .claws-mail/filtering.log
> > .claws-mail/filtering.log: ASCII text, with very long lines  
> 
> I get a rather different result:
> 
> 	$ file .claws-mail/filtering.log
> 	.claws-mail/filtering.log: data

Instead of relying on dumb utilities, why not just peek inside with
less or more? :) It won't bite, even if it turns out it's not a
plaintext file.

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From kilowattradio at comcast.net  Wed Nov 26 21:17:43 2014
From: kilowattradio at comcast.net (Keith)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 12:17:43 -0800
Subject: [Users] Using Variables when creating X- email headers in Claws
	Mail Program
Message-ID: <20141126201759.4493836A3C48@mx.colino.net>

I need to add an X-whatever: headers to my emails that will list the date
and name of the From sender in it. I have tried using $DATE and %d, but it
doesn't work. Does any one know how to accomplish this with CLAWS? 

Version: 14th December 2013 Claws Mail 3.9.3

Thank You.

Keith


From albert.aribaud at free.fr  Wed Nov 26 21:22:59 2014
From: albert.aribaud at free.fr (Albert ARIBAUD)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 21:22:59 +0100
Subject: [Users] Using Variables when creating X- email headers in Claws
 Mail Program
In-Reply-To: <20141126201759.4493836A3C48@mx.colino.net>
References: <20141126201759.4493836A3C48@mx.colino.net>
Message-ID: <20141126212259.5499428b@lilith>

Bonjour Keith,

Le Wed, 26 Nov 2014 12:17:43 -0800, Keith <kilowattradio at comcast.net> a
écrit :

> I need to add an X-whatever: headers to my emails that will list the date
> and name of the From sender in it. I have tried using $DATE and %d, but it
> doesn't work. Does any one know how to accomplish this with CLAWS? 

Maybe use an action?

> Version: 14th December 2013 Claws Mail 3.9.3
> 
> Thank You.
> 
> Keith

Amicalement,
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From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org  Wed Nov 26 21:30:47 2014
From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud OLGIATI (Ron))
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 17:30:47 -0300
Subject: [Users] A filtering annoyance
In-Reply-To: <20141126104447.63f72dc0@ron.cerrocora.org>
References: <20141125081601.70ac30ac@ron.cerrocora.org>
 <20141125112130.25d75c46@thewildbeast>
 <20141125152158.5a7f0028@ron.cerrocora.org>
 <20141125134103.333aa9c6@pfortin.com>
 <20141125161334.625c5207@ron.cerrocora.org>
 <20141126025122.35a7fb0d@ron.cerrocora.org>
 <20141126082332.23e8e698@pfortin.com>
 <20141126104447.63f72dc0@ron.cerrocora.org>
Message-ID: <20141126173047.1346fd6c@ron.cerrocora.org>

Trying to see a bit more clearly, I have done the following:
- Stopped CM
- $ rm ~/.claws-mail/ is so different from what is shown in the Filtering log window ?
- Restarted CM
- Looked at my Inbox, which held several messages that _should_ have been filtered but were not.
- Selected all the new messages in the Inbox, then Tools => Filter selected messages.

After this
- All the previously unfiltered messages were where they should be.
- There are I dont know how many lines of log in the Filtering log window (far too many to wade through manually)
- The filtering.log file is useless, as it only contains lines like:

[11:42:25] * OK: rule is not account-based
[11:42:25] * NOT OK: message does not match
[11:42:25] * OK: rule is not account-based
[11:42:25] * OK: message matches
[11:42:25] * OK: rule is not account-based
[11:42:25] * NOT OK: message does not match
[11:42:25] * OK: rule is not account-based
[11:42:25] * NOT OK: message does not match

with no way to know what message the lines refer to.

Any idea why filtering.log is so different from what is shown in the Filtering log window ?
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Wed Nov 26 23:09:17 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 22:09:17 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2796] add SCRAM-SHA-1 support
In-Reply-To: <bug-2796-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2796-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2796-595-Nsomtcdzrw@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2796

--- Comment #4 from Charles Lehner <cel at celehner.com> ---
What about using libsasl2 (Cyrus SASL)? This is what libetpan uses [1], and
claws-mail in Debian Testing (3.11.1-1) already depends on it.

Cyrus SASL supports SCRAM-SHA-1:
https://github.com/coapp-packages/cyrus-sasl/blob/master/plugins/scram.c

Example usage in a client:
http://www.cyrusimap.org/docs/cyrus-sasl/2.1.25/programming.php#client_section

On that note, couldn't we just use SCRAM-SHA-1 through libetpan for IMAP, as
with CRAM-MD5 and DIGEST-MD5? For SMTP, could we use sasl_client_* functions
from Cyrus SASL for the auth?

1. https://github.com/dinhviethoa/libetpan/blob/master/configure.ac#L514

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From itz at buug.org  Thu Nov 27 07:05:01 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 22:05:01 -0800
Subject: [Users] Using Variables when creating X- email headers in Claws
 Mail Program
In-Reply-To: <20141126201759.4493836A3C48@mx.colino.net>
References: <20141126201759.4493836A3C48@mx.colino.net>
Message-ID: <20141126220501.533a7cb0.itz@buug.org>

On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 12:17:43 -0800,
Keith <kilowattradio at comcast.net> wrote:

Cc'ing the list, hope that's OK.  If you _really_ need a private reply,
there's still time to switch.

Keith> I need to add an X-whatever: headers to my emails that will list
Keith> the date and name of the From sender in it. I have tried using
Keith> $DATE and %d, but it doesn't work. Does any one know how to
Keith> accomplish this with CLAWS?

This question needs a bit more context.  At what point do you need to do
this?  Have the original meesages already been read?  In that case, the
From (the envelope address) may not even be available anymore.  Should
the modified message replace the original or be filed alongside with the
latter?  Or are you trying to send the modified message?

The solution, if any, will probably depend on the answers to these
questions.  Or maybe you could tell us what you're really trying to
accomplish, high level (that is, ask "smart").

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Nov 27 13:44:24 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 12:44:24 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 2355] Embedding external editor through GtkSocket
In-Reply-To: <bug-2355-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-2355-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-2355-595-BmMyb75yMJ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2355

--- Comment #14 from Darko <darko at users.sf.net> ---
Created attachment 1451
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Updated patch for Claws-Mail 3.11.1

Updated patch that applies on top of Claws-Mail 3.11.1.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Nov 27 15:40:51 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 14:40:51 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3338] New: Claws Mail 3.11.1-34 core dumps if RSSyl is
	loaded
Message-ID: <bug-3338-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3338

            Bug ID: 3338
           Summary: Claws Mail 3.11.1-34 core dumps if RSSyl is loaded
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: GIT
          Hardware: PC
                OS: FreeBSD
            Status: NEW
          Severity: critical
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/RSSyl
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: claws-mail_user at thehugheslogcabin.net

Created attachment 1452
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gdb thread apply all bt output

I have been having some problems with Claws Mail the last couple weeks core
dumping when RSSyl is loaded.  I first noticed it when I would come back to my
workstation and Claws Mail wouldn't be running.  I have also had Claws Mail
core dump right after starting.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Nov 27 15:42:30 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 14:42:30 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3338] Claws Mail 3.11.1-34 core dumps if RSSyl is
	loaded
In-Reply-To: <bug-3338-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3338-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3338-595-rJKPxXOHCQ@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3338

--- Comment #1 from Michael Hughes <claws-mail_user at thehugheslogcabin.net> ---
FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE-p18 

Claws Mail version 3.11.1git34
runtime GTK+ 2.24.22 / GLib 2.36.3
buildtime GTK+ 2.24.22 / GLib 2.36.3
Compiled-in features:
 Enchant
 GnuTLS
 IPv6
 iconv
 LDAP
 libetpan 1.1
 libSM

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Nov 27 16:45:07 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 15:45:07 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3338] Claws Mail 3.11.1-34 core dumps if RSSyl is
	loaded
In-Reply-To: <bug-3338-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3338-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3338-595-IM3muvaMkd@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3338

--- Comment #2 from Ricardo Mones <mones at users.sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE-p18 
> 
> Claws Mail version 3.11.1git34
> runtime GTK+ 2.24.22 / GLib 2.36.3
> buildtime GTK+ 2.24.22 / GLib 2.36.3
> Compiled-in features:
>  Enchant
>  GnuTLS
>  IPv6
>  iconv
>  LDAP
>  libetpan 1.1
>  libSM

Is it 32 bit or 64 bit?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Nov 27 21:09:25 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 20:09:25 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3338] Claws Mail 3.11.1-34 core dumps if RSSyl is
	loaded
In-Reply-To: <bug-3338-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3338-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3338-595-5oUJanHpuC@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3338

--- Comment #3 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
Michael, does the crash always happen during update of the same feed, or is it
random?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Thu Nov 27 23:48:52 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 22:48:52 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3338] Claws Mail 3.11.1-34 core dumps if RSSyl is
	loaded
In-Reply-To: <bug-3338-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3338-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3338-595-0ASHQymOxP@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3338

--- Comment #4 from Michael Hughes <claws-mail_user at thehugheslogcabin.net> ---
This is a 64 bit system.

I'm not sure if it is the same feed or not.  Is there an easy way to figure
this out?

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov 28 00:02:22 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 23:02:22 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3338] Claws Mail 3.11.1-34 core dumps if RSSyl is
	loaded
In-Reply-To: <bug-3338-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3338-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3338-595-momsLvNpCb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3338

--- Comment #5 from Michael Hughes <claws-mail_user at thehugheslogcabin.net> ---
I just refreshed the feeds I have one at a time and it seems to always core
dump on two of the feeds each time I try to refresh them.  One of the feeds is
the Claws Mail GIT feed (http://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git;a=rss)

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov 28 18:05:36 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 17:05:36 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3339] New: RSS stopped working on certain sites with
 error message
Message-ID: <bug-3339-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3339

            Bug ID: 3339
           Summary: RSS stopped working on certain sites with error
                    message
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: Claws Mail
           Version: 3.11.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: critical
          Priority: P3
         Component: Plugins/RSSyl
          Assignee: users at lists.claws-mail.org
          Reporter: luminarior at gmail.com

1. I upgraded from 3.10.1 to 3.11.1 and my RSS news feeds become work
strangely: almost all RSS messages have become marked as unread ones. One of
the newsfeeds have stopped working completelly:
http://www.vedomosti.ru/newsline/out/rss.xml from
http://www.vedomosti.ru/newsline/ site. I tried to delete it and recreate
(subscribe new feed), but it still gives me "No valid feed found at
http://www.vedomosti.ru/newsline/out/rss.xml" error. I tried to downgrade to
3.10.1 and upgraded back, but it made things even worse: it's now other RSS
newsfeeds have stopped working too and I can't select "Refresh feed" or "Feed
properties" on those feeds.
2. I noticed (before downgrade into 3.10.1) that option for limit the number of
messages in the newsfeed has disappeared. That's pretty sad too. I don't need
to store all news on my SSD. 900 messages max are enough for everyday reading
and older messages should be all deleted as it was in previous version of RSSyl
plugin.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Fri Nov 28 18:28:12 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 17:28:12 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3339] RSS stopped working on certain sites with error
	message
In-Reply-To: <bug-3339-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3339-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3339-595-TWSLIzEMev@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3339

--- Comment #1 from Andrej Kacian <andrej at kacian.sk> ---
1. This is unfortunate, looks like the unknown encoding handler for Expat
parser does not work as expected. I will have a look at it to see if I can make
it work.

2. You can either disable "Keep old items" in feed properties to automatically
delete items/stories which are no longer in the feed, or you can set up folder
processing rules to delete older items.

My favourite processing rule for this is "age_greater 14 & ~unread", which
deletes any item older than two weeks, unless it's still marked as unread.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Nov 29 15:09:11 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 14:09:11 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3338] Claws Mail 3.11.1-34 core dumps if RSSyl is
	loaded
In-Reply-To: <bug-3338-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3338-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3338-595-O3GeIT4qOb@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3338

--- Comment #6 from Michael Hughes <claws-mail_user at thehugheslogcabin.net> ---
Created attachment 1453
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debug output

This is the debug output of the RSSyl plugin.  I started Claws Mail and the
selected Refresh feed for the git.clawsa-mail.org feed.

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From noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk  Sat Nov 29 15:54:34 2014
From: noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk (noreply at thewildbeast.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 14:54:34 +0000
Subject: [Users] [Bug 3338] Claws Mail 3.11.1-34 core dumps if RSSyl is
	loaded
In-Reply-To: <bug-3338-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
References: <bug-3338-595@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>
Message-ID: <bug-3338-595-zGk1oEGfHj@http.www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/>

http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3338

--- Comment #7 from Michael Hughes <claws-mail_user at thehugheslogcabin.net> ---
I have found that the → in the title of the git feed is causing the core dump. 
I added the character to the title of one of my post and it core dumped.

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From itz at buug.org  Sun Nov 30 19:44:56 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 10:44:56 -0800
Subject: [Users] Claws slowing down, help?
Message-ID: <20141130104456.43ac03ed.itz@buug.org>

I see major slowdown displaying some messages.  They're not large, no
HTML or anything but plain text.  It seems to be random which ones will
be affected.

I looked at both tcpdump output and claws' own network log, and both
seem to indicate it's not a networking issue.  The entire message
arrives from the IMAP server within milliseconds - but then it takes
claws as much as 15 seconds to take the next step.  Here is an example:

[10:33:46] IMAP4> 406 UID FETCH 2544 BODY.PEEK[] 
[10:33:46] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
[10:33:46] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
[10:33:46] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
[10:33:46] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
[10:33:46] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 659 bytes]
[10:34:02] IMAP4> 407 NOOP 
[10:34:02] IMAP4< 407 OK NOOP completed. 
[10:34:02] IMAP4> 408 UID STORE 2544 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen) 
[10:34:02] IMAP4< 408 OK Store completed. 

Anyone seen this?  Anyone solved this?

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From ricardo at mones.org  Sun Nov 30 20:08:30 2014
From: ricardo at mones.org (Ricardo Mones)
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 20:08:30 +0100
Subject: [Users] Claws slowing down, help?
In-Reply-To: <20141130104456.43ac03ed.itz@buug.org>
References: <20141130104456.43ac03ed.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20141130190830.GA13666@trasgu>

Hi Ian,

On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 10:44:56AM -0800, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
> I see major slowdown displaying some messages.  They're not large, no
> HTML or anything but plain text.  It seems to be random which ones will
> be affected.
> 
> I looked at both tcpdump output and claws' own network log, and both
> seem to indicate it's not a networking issue.  The entire message
> arrives from the IMAP server within milliseconds - but then it takes
> claws as much as 15 seconds to take the next step.  Here is an example:
> 
> [10:33:46] IMAP4> 406 UID FETCH 2544 BODY.PEEK[] 
> [10:33:46] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
> [10:33:46] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
> [10:33:46] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
> [10:33:46] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
> [10:33:46] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 659 bytes]
> [10:34:02] IMAP4> 407 NOOP 
> [10:34:02] IMAP4< 407 OK NOOP completed. 
> [10:34:02] IMAP4> 408 UID STORE 2544 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen) 
> [10:34:02] IMAP4< 408 OK Store completed. 
> 
> Anyone seen this?  Anyone solved this?

You may want to run with --debug from a terminal and see if
Claws Mail is doing something else during that interval which
may be causing the slowness.

Otherwise it seems you may have a lazy server there :)
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  Ricardo Mones 
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From lfisk at iserv.net  Sun Nov 30 21:06:23 2014
From: lfisk at iserv.net (Leon Fisk)
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 16:06:23 -0400
Subject: [Users] Claws slowing down, help?
In-Reply-To: <20141130104456.43ac03ed.itz@buug.org>
References: <20141130104456.43ac03ed.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <201411302006.sAUK6TXP010984@mail2.iserv.net>

On Sun, 30 Nov 2014 10:44:56 -0800
Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:

>I see major slowdown displaying some messages.  They're not large, no
>HTML or anything but plain text.  It seems to be random which ones will
>be affected.
<snip>

I've had that happen from time to time. Gets my attention and then I
figure out there is a Cron job/houskeeping task running in the
backround...

-- 
Leon
Claws 3.11.0-plus fixes, Ubuntu Karmic-Lucid


From itz at buug.org  Sun Nov 30 21:20:56 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 12:20:56 -0800
Subject: [Users] Claws slowing down, help?
In-Reply-To: <20141130190830.GA13666@trasgu>
References: <20141130104456.43ac03ed.itz@buug.org>
 <20141130190830.GA13666@trasgu>
Message-ID: <20141130122056.28f7a508.itz@buug.org>

On Sun, 30 Nov 2014 20:08:30 +0100,
Ricardo Mones <ricardo at mones.org> wrote:

Ian> [10:33:46] IMAP4> 406 UID FETCH 2544 BODY.PEEK[] 
Ian> [10:33:46] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
Ian> [10:33:46] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
Ian> [10:33:46] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
Ian> [10:33:46] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1024 bytes]
Ian> [10:33:46] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 659 bytes]
Ian> [10:34:02] IMAP4> 407 NOOP 
Ian> [10:34:02] IMAP4< 407 OK NOOP completed. 
Ian> [10:34:02] IMAP4> 408 UID STORE 2544 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen) 
Ian> [10:34:02] IMAP4< 408 OK Store completed. 

Ricardo> You may want to run with --debug from a terminal and see if
Ricardo> Claws Mail is doing something else during that interval which
Ricardo> may be causing the slowness.

Ricardo> Otherwise it seems you may have a lazy server there :)

I'll run with debug on, all right.  But how could it be a server issue,
given the log above?

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